<i>The linked discussion between Guninski and Peter Gutmann on the Cypherpunks list is much more interesting.</i><p>Yes, these two messages in particular are worth reading:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cpunks.org&#x2F;pipermail&#x2F;cypherpunks&#x2F;2015-September&#x2F;009029.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cpunks.org&#x2F;pipermail&#x2F;cypherpunks&#x2F;2015-September&#x2F;0090...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cpunks.org&#x2F;pipermail&#x2F;cypherpunks&#x2F;2015-September&#x2F;009048.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cpunks.org&#x2F;pipermail&#x2F;cypherpunks&#x2F;2015-September&#x2F;0090...</a>