That was an interesting read, lots of good points. But I think that articles points are orthogonal to mine. I agree the US is a much less healthy place than many other industrialized countries. But that isn&#x27;t a reflection on our health care industry, that&#x27;s a cultural issue. If the US has a higher rate of breast cancer remission, but an even higher rate of breast cancer occurrence, that would reflect well on the health care system while resulting in a increased years of life lost.<p>You&#x27;re doctor can&#x27;t make you stop being fat, he can&#x27;t make you jog, and he can&#x27;t make you stop stressing about not jogging and being fat :P But in the US he can give you an edge over other countries in beating cancer.<p>It&#x27;s an extremely tough problem to determine what is cultural causes, what is genetic, and what is health care. But just normalizing on age incidences, the US does well. I bet if we adjusted for relative health (impossible, but I&#x27;m wishing for perfect data), the US would do remarkably better.<p>If I have time later today, I&#x27;ll dig up my sources. But I lost interest in this years ago when people overwhelmingly thought that because the US has a higher mortality rate, our health care system must suck :&#x2F;