@amelius It&#x27;s been in my experience &quot;results&quot; vary widely with a lot of people. Part of the reason is that calmness is not the ultimate aim of meditation, but rather, a side-effect.<p>For some people, the practice of meditation will quickly surface up a lot of anxiety and existential issues. It won&#x27;t feel calm at all. Having been lured into thinking calmness is the end-goal, meditation is written off as &quot;not working&quot;, when in fact in this case, it worked all too well.<p>Just some food for thought. I had written quite a bit more on different threads:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10142283" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10142283</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10156240" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10156240</a>