Thing is, the <i>entire</i> Bay Area is seriously affected by the failure to build in SF. You can think of the SF Bay Area as a lower-population NYC with <i>really</i> shitty public transit.<p>&gt; ...the upshot is closer to saying you couldn&#x27;t live in Manhattan.<p>I&#x27;m not sure what you mean by &quot;The upshot&quot;?<p>Edit: I&#x27;m asking this question because I can&#x27;t reply to the rest of your comment until I have its answer. I&#x27;m not snarking or trolling; I&#x27;m trying to have a productive conversation about a touchy topic with folks who probably don&#x27;t share my views. I don&#x27;t want to misinterpret what you were trying to say and say something incredibly dumb. :)