Guy, the only thing abundantly clear is that you are full of dung. Your shameless self-promotion may piss-off the police chief here - murbard2, so be more careful. Ten  digits better classified, out of 10000? With a structure more complicated than a human DNA vs two lines of code? Congratulations! Or, and how are your &quot;stairways-to-heaven&quot; even remotely universal? Show us something these networks have generated like the VAE or Gibbs&#x2F;ACE papers? Perhaps you can show some density estimation results as in <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;1502.04623" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;1502.04623</a> or <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;1508.06585" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;1508.06585</a>? 
Oja and Hyvarinen are great guys and have left their names in the pantheon of neural nets. But it is time for you and the other 12 people who live there, to shake off the legacy of ICA and the obsession with orthogonality: Andrew Ng and company showed years ago  that it is not needed and is in fact detrimental <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;ai.stanford.edu&#x2F;~quocle&#x2F;LeKarpenkoNgiamNg.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;ai.stanford.edu&#x2F;~quocle&#x2F;LeKarpenkoNgiamNg.pdf</a> . Read it! Also, too much dung smells bad in the arctic summer, murbard2 here prefers comics and won&#x27;t be  reading your installments of 25+ page spaghetti any time soon. At least Oja and Hyvarinen know how to write.