This book gets cited a lot in such discussions, 
so I usually just respond by linking some of my previous comments that address it and related works :-)<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=7890441" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=7890441</a>
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