&gt;if you don&#x27;t understand why people enjoy drugs and drink, that makes you the odd one out, not him.<p>I understand why they enjoy it, I just think the downsides (downregulation) far outweigh the benefits.<p>&gt;Oh, and if you can naturally do anything that comes close to either MDMA or LSD, I&#x27;ll eat my hat. And my shoes<p>Lucid dreaming would be the natural equivalent, and with the benefit of zero health risk (including no downregulation of anything) and control over the experience.