Sorry for the delay.<p>What you&#x27;re talking about in this thread doesn&#x27;t translate to applying the model &quot;without nuance&quot;, but to wrongly apply the model or to not apply the model at all (since the model is not followed).<p>That&#x27;s why I think your first post is wrong; the disease model does not claim that deviancy == illness.
Rather, it claims that the identified problematic behavior is a result of a chemical&#x2F;biological issue, and doesn&#x27;t deal with definition of problems at all.<p>Also worth noting is that the purely biologic view isn&#x27;t really en vogue any more. AFAIK, the biopsychosocial model is more popular.<p>In practice, it is valuable to view mental disorders as (i.e. not claim that they <i>are</i>) illnesses, one of the reasons for which you touch upon in your original post.<p>I have of course heard arguments like Hallowell&#x27;s before, and I don&#x27;t think that they&#x27;re entirely unreasonable, although the gist of them can be applied to psychiatric diagnoses in general, seeing that all symptoms and traits can be said to exist on a scale&#x2F;spectrum&#x2F;continuum. Most literature I&#x27;ve seen readily acknowledges this (and notes pitfalls of other kinds, like being somewhat based on social norms). This is the one of the nuances I&#x27;ve previously alluded to.<p>As I think is quite clear from our exchange, positions like these are not the ones i disagree with, nor the ones I refer to as conspiratorial – that would be those that actually posit conspiratorial &quot;theories&quot;, e.g. willful persecution of those outside the &quot;normal&quot; by practitioners, the powers that be, etc.<p>I&#x27;ll refrain from commenting on your rude sarcasm and unreasonable assumptions, but know that cherry picking a source and appealing to its authority doesn&#x27;t make for a convincing (nor logical) argument.<p>I&#x27;m also familiar with medicalization of deviance, though I don&#x27;t see how this pertains to the disease model, as this kind of social control is possible (and has been performed) via a plethora of means.<p>P.S. Just came across an editorial [0] that deals with some of this that might be of interest.<p>[0]: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;bjp.rcpsych.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;191&#x2F;5&#x2F;375" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;bjp.rcpsych.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;191&#x2F;5&#x2F;375</a>