Exactly. That expensive rotating Velodyne thing is a research tool, not a production auto part.  Production cars need better, preferably with no big moving parts. The Pioneer MEMS device qualifies (the moving parts are at IC scale).  The new Kinect is a no-moving-parts 3D LIDAR. The Advanced Scientific Concepts flash LIDAR is also a good 3D LIDAR, usable outdoors in daylight.  It costs about $100K because it&#x27;s hand-made by physicists in Santa Barbara for DOD and Space-X, but the technology isn&#x27;t inherently expensive.<p>The Pioneer press release doesn&#x27;t say much. The usual specs are X and Y pixels, field of view, and range, none of which they give.