I didn&#x27;t mean issue with it in a bad way.<p>Just that a lot operational people noticed it was trend occurring and adapted to it. They didn&#x27;t avoid it.<p>As a DevOps can you develop code to automate things, like deployment, builds, ci, server setup? Can you setup servers, networks, monitoring? If you can do all of these things your cross functional.<p>Originally before devops, operational teams and developer teams were completely separate. Often separate rooms.<p>At the company I&#x27;m at devops and developers are actually on the same team. Same room and attend the same stand up meetings. We have devops people that have helped create code, and we have developers that are on call for making sure that they are on duty in case their new code falls over. Skills gradually start to overlap. We also have people have switched their focus, developers who moved to more ops skills and vice versa.<p>We aren&#x27;t different groups of people. That&#x27; what I mean by not separate silos.