The only counter to people&#x27;s opinions on a political movement can&#x27;t just be &quot;they&#x27;re not portrayed right!&quot; or &quot;you&#x27;re just viewing things through a biased lens.&quot;<p>There has to be something substantial at some point. Throughout this whole thread this theme remains constant. There&#x27;s nothing but vague, unsubstantiated hypotheticals and a general display of ignorance of the last two decades of the U.S. political history.<p>It&#x27;s really quite irritating that this is what&#x27;s passing as good discussion on HN, but I suppose every community has its downfall.