it&#x27;s not just that though, there&#x27;s the push for systemd which was not welcomed and alienated a lot of sysadmin folk who frequent hackernews.<p>personally I felt rather shafted by systemd, not because it&#x27;s bad, but because my arguments were never even met, it was just a brushing off from some of the people who had already accepted it.<p>So I tried the BSD&#x27;s and they were significantly better than I imagined they would be, I would put money on this being the case for other people who are upvoting these topics.