Downvote away... but everything about this thread is disappointing.<p>There is much about U.S. zoning and housing that I believe is misguided.  However, I&#x27;ll say that the pro-suburbia comments in this thread are actually fairly well-written.  Most of the anti-suburbia comments boil down to, &quot;<i>blah blah hellholes blah blah heebie-jeebies blah blah everybody&#x27;s racist blah blah</i>&quot;.<p>That is more of a Reddit thread than the usual HN.  Much of this simply sounds like: (A) single renters under 30, or (B) European immigrants, incredulous that they can&#x27;t double their own take-home pay while experiencing zero broader social differences.