Hey, at least I didn&#x27;t use &quot;cloud-native&quot; or &quot;12-factor app&quot;! On a serious note, though, yeah I can&#x27;t say I&#x27;m keen on the terms. I&#x27;ve known DevOps since it was called SRE 10 years ago, at Google. Just trying to use same terms other people on HN seem to use.