&gt;<i>Not surprising at all, given the rise and fall of Java as a first class citizen on OSX</i><p>And not only on OSX -- generally the rise and fall of Java. In late nineties &quot;Java Applets&quot; (+ the web plugin) were supposed to go big. Never happened. Then there was always the promise of Java on the consumer desktop. Never happened either [1]. Java on the enterprise desktop also didn&#x27;t fare that well. As for startups and smaller companies, the mostly go with Ruby&#x2F;RoR, Python, Node, Go, PHP, etc.<p>Nowadays it&#x27;s just mainly Java on the enterprise server.<p>[1] Yeah, I know you can name 5 somewhat successful desktop Java apps. I doubt you can name 50 though, and that&#x27;s the whole point.