I would argue that what Java&#x2F;Swing set out to do in the 1990&#x27;s was done already. You can ship Swing apps and make lots of money selling them to lots of people - JetBrains being a case in point. You don&#x27;t get many people starting new projects that way (and Swing has been replaced by JFX anyway), but this seems more related to fashion than the merits of the various technologies.<p>The energy and &quot;momentum&quot; in the web community is something that has been discussed extensively on HN and elsewhere, so I won&#x27;t comment on that. Suffice it to say that motion is not always the same thing as progress.