I remember those days.<p>As I also remember Apple sales people coming to CERN doing a presentation trying to sell us the idea that since Mac OS X was built on NeXT and BSD, it was also an UNIX that could be used by the researchers.<p>In the early days of MacOS X, Apple wasn&#x27;t sure that the Mac OS developer community would enjoy using Objective-C, so they bet the farm on both languages.<p>As it became clear that the majority of the developers were quite happy to using Objective-C, they just slowly killed the Objective-C - Java bridge, and then eventually gave the JVM code to Oracle.<p>This also helped killing the Java role on the desktop and together with Microsoft, started the industry cycle to move back into AOT compiled languages.<p>I wonder how it would have turned out if they had killed Objective-C instead.<p>On the other had, I also sometimes wonder how a Mac OS X based on BeOS ( C++ )would be.