I see where you&#x27;re coming from but I think you&#x27;re being too harsh. I don&#x27;t know Moxie personally, but he&#x27;s been out there fighting the good fight since the &#x27;90s - I have a vague and possibly erroneous memory of having encountered him on the old cypherpunks list, back during the dawn of time. While I have had a frustrating experience with Signal, I have nothing but respect for Moxie&#x27;s skill and his commitment to secure, private communication. Engineering is hard, everything is a tradeoff; I&#x27;m certain that nobody involved with Signal has any intention whatsoever of trying to sell us out to Google. They&#x27;re undoubtedly looking at a complicated problem and trying to do a good job with it. It just happens that their particular choices aren&#x27;t working for me.