&gt;<i>That&#x27;s all factored in</i><p>You seem to be confused about what &quot;factored in&quot; means:<p>&gt;<i>it will then take some number of months</i><p>How many months?  That&#x27;s &quot;factoring it in&quot;.  &quot;Some months&quot; provides zero information.<p>&gt;<i>so calling this a &quot;delay&quot; is just wrong.</i><p>Of course there&#x27;s no delay yet, it&#x27;s all just talk. I think it&#x27;s people planning for the inevitable delay, based on historical manufacturing results and this nebulous fudge factor.<p>The big news is the call of 500k cars by 2018 (100k-200k in 2017).  If they can pull that off it&#x27;s insane.<p>&gt;<i>their internal target dates at all</i><p>Again, <i>who cares</i> about some random internal date that may be off by some unknown number of months?  What information do we glean from it?  It&#x27;s nigh useless.<p>And other manufacturers are <i>far</i> more transparent about their actual financial and production information.