That is my understanding, yes -- but the NSE and (McVoy-authored) NSElite chapters of the saga pre-date me at Sun. Before my &quot;Fork Yeah!&quot; talk[1][2], from which this is drawn, I confirmed this the best I could, but it was all based only on recollections of the engineers who were there (including Larry). I haven&#x27;t found anything written down about (for example) NSElite, though I would love to get Larry on the record to formalize that important history...<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.usenix.org&#x2F;legacy&#x2F;events&#x2F;lisa11&#x2F;tech&#x2F;slides&#x2F;cantrill.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.usenix.org&#x2F;legacy&#x2F;events&#x2F;lisa11&#x2F;tech&#x2F;slides&#x2F;cant...</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc</a>