english: Or in Zimbabwe, where I remember Innocent, after coming out of a prison where everybody stood up and said, "I've been here for one year, eight years, 12 years without a lawyer," he came and we had a training together and he said, "I have heard it said" -- because he had heard people mumbling and grumbling -- "I have heard it said that we cannot help to create justice because we do not have the resources."
non_english: Ali v Zimbabveju, kjer se spominjam Innocenta, potem ko je prišel iz zapora, v katerem so vsi skupaj rekli: "Tu sem že leto dni, osem let, dvanajst let brez odvetnika," prišel je in skupaj sva izvedla trening in dejal je: "Slišal sem govoriti"... kajti ljudi je slišal mrmrati in godrnjati... "Slišal sem, da ne moremo pomagati ustvarjati pravice, ker nimamo sredstev."