english: They didn't talk about vulnerability being comfortable, nor did they really talk about it being excruciating -- as I had heard it earlier in the shame interviewing.
non_english: Niso rekli, da je ranljivost prijetna, niti niso rekli, da je boleča -- kot sem slišala v prejšnjih intervjujih o sramu. Povedali so samo, da je nujna.