english: And this graph from Ken Caldeira. It's important to say came, because Ken -- at a meeting that I believe Marty Hoffart was also at in the mid-'90s -- Ken and I stood up at the back of the meeting and said, "Geo-engineering won't work."
non_english: A to je graf Kena Calderyho. Je dôležité to povedať, pretože Ken bol na schôdzi, kde bol tiež Marty Hoffart v polovici 90-tych rokoch, Ken a ja sme vystúpili na schôdzi a povedali sme "Geo-inžinierstvo nebude fungovať."