english: CA: But I'd push back on that, because I think what people are talking about is that there was a world where you had fewer journalistic outlets, where there were traditions, that things were fact-checked.
non_english: CA: Daar zou ik op willen doorgaan, omdat ik denk dat waar mensen over praten een wereld is met minder  journalistieke bronnen, toen er tradities waren  van het controleren van feiten.