english: And within these conversations, I started hearing the connections between the businesses and the people, and how laws that were meant to protect them were being underused, while gross and illegal punitive measures were overused.
non_english: En gedurende deze gesprekken ging ik de verbindingen begrijpen tussen bedrijven en de mensen en hoe wetten, bedoeld  om mensen te beschermen, onvoldoende gebruikt werden, terwijl grove en illegale straffen  overmatig gebruikt werden.