english: And when people say to me, "There's a backlash against refugees," what I say to them is, "No, there's a polarization, and at the moment, those who are fearful are making more noise than those who are proud."
non_english: Als mensen tegen mij zeggen: "Er is verzet tegen vluchtelingen," dan zeg ik tegen hen: "Nee, er is polarisatie, en op het moment, maakt wie bang is meer lawaai dan wie fier is."