english: But any kind of conversation about architecture -- which is, in fact, what you were just talking about, what was going on here, setting up TED, small-scale architecture -- at the present time can't really happen without a conversation about this, the World Trade Center, and what's been going on there, what it means to us.
non_english: Maar elk gesprek over architectuur - daarover had je het al,  wat hier gebeurt, het opzet van TED,  kleinschalige architectuur - kan vandaag niet meer  zonder hierover te praten. Het World Trade Center, wat daar is gebeurd, wat het voor ons betekent.