english: And Sue Savage-Rumbaugh got excited about that, called her friend Steve Woodruff, and we began hustling all sorts of people whose work related or was inspiring, which led us to Diana, and led us to Neil.
non_english: Sue Savage-Rumbaugh was enthousiast  en belde haar vriend Steve Woodruff. We spraken allerlei mensen aan wier werk relevant of inspirerend was. Op die manier vonden we Diana en ook Neil.