english: That is to say -- (Laughter) -- thank you, thank you. That is to say, remember: my whole view of morality is that it boils down to self-interest.
non_english: Dat wil zeggen - (Gelach) - Dank je, dank je. Herinner je: mijn hele inzicht in de moraliteit is dat ze neerkomt op eigenbelang.