english: And I still remember the first cases where they came, all 25 together, she would stand up, and they were in the back, and they would support her, and the judges kept saying, "No, no, no, no, we're going to do things the exact same way we've been doing them."
non_english: Ik herinner me nog de eerste gevallen. Zij kwamen alle 25 samen. Ze stond op, de anderen stonden achteraan om haar te steunen en de rechters bleven zeggen: "Nee, nee, nee, nee, we gaan alles op exact dezelfde manier blijven doen als tevoren.”