english: It took a long time to persuade them to talk to me, and once they agreed, they were so full of their story that they couldn't stop telling it, and the first weekend I spent with them, the first of many, I recorded more than 20 hours of conversation.
non_english: Ze waren moeilijk over te halen, eenmaal akkoord,  waren ze zo vol van hun verhaal dat ze niet konden stoppen. Tijdens het eerste weekend bij hen, nam ik meer dan 20 uur aan gesprekken op.