english: We could never have done the convention against anti-personnel landmines and the convention that is banning cluster munitions unless we had done diplomacy differently, by engaging with civil society.
non_english: We hadden nooit de conventie tegen antipersoonsmijnen kunnen houden en de conventie die clusterbommen uitbant, tenzij we diplomatie heel anders hadden aangepakt, door maatschappelijke partners erbij te betrekken.