anchor: oh yeah i think that i i guess it was uh five years ago or more than when they it failed and i guess people just got tired of talking about it i'm not too sure i guess there was no one really pushing it and no one saying that it was going to mean business to us i think nowadays
positive: It failed about five years ago and people just didn't talk about it anymore.
negative: It was very successful five years ago and people are still talking about it today.