anchor: just how can anything happen like this and the guys that did it were so ignorant they didn't even remorse they didn't they didn't have any remorse for what they were doing but they were just so ignorant that one of them says well i didn't realize that was because i was beating her in the head that she was really going to die on me you know it's like although why did you do it she was screaming all i wanted to do was shut her up he he acted like he didn't even think that this was going to kill her i the kids were really quite ignorant about it and it it was a tragedy on both sides but it just shocked the uh the state that something like this could happen
positive: Some men who commit domestic violence claim they didn't realize what they were doing.
negative: The State is completely aware that horrible acts of violence are going on.