anchor: yeah now the other side of the question is about are we getting what we're paying for um for the most part i think we are but there is a lot of inefficiency uh both on the federal level and on the state level and uh hopefully we'll you know as we start to go into computerization and all the processes maybe we'll be able to streamline it
positive: I think for the bigger part, we are getting what we are paying for.
negative: I don't think we are getting the value for what we pay for.