anchor: grim family yeah yeah and they fortunately they have some some success stories to share and i try to tell them to dwell on those i can't see how they can both stand uh to live that way but they don't see much uh hope for neither one of them sees any real solution to the to the problems uh
positive: I tell them to think more positively and about the good things they have.
negative: I rarely have any advice for them most of the time.