anchor: yeah and i but i think even i even those people are it's like Pauken and Box and these people i think it's i find it interesting that everybody's so busy politicking that the question is did we get anything good done it's like this whole school issue are are you involved in the schools at all public school
positive: I always wonder if we've actually done any good or just politicked.
negative: We've been able to do a lot of good by ignoring politicking.