anchor: but the fact that it can happen that it probably does happen in many places it's it's horrendous and it's just a stroke of luck that someone was able to get it on tape and then uh to listen to the tape recording uh at the police station of the whole conversation afterwards
positive: It's horrendous that it happens in many places and it's lucky it someone caught it on tape.
negative: It is common to catch it on tape.