anchor: and the guys that that some of the guys that run this place are very tight and it's like well why do we need this can't you do that with you know what we have and when we try and then they complain about this doesn't look good
positive: These guys run everything tightly but when we need this, they complain to us.
negative: These guys have a very liberal operational style when it comes to running things but when we get involved, they are nevertheless thankful.