I used this app every day for years, until they forced you to have the workout audio. Then I uninstalled it. I don't know why they had to make changes. If you look at where the good reviews were, it was when the app gave you options to either have the coach chatting at you or to not. I always chose to not so I could listen to my podcasts, music, or be on the phone. I think there may be some option to do something with a premium podcast account and linking them up but it's so broken/ unnecessary