Before initiation into the Vedas every man is regarded as a Shudra. There being a difference of opinion on the point Svyambhuva Manu has laid down;
तावच्छूद्रसमो ह्येष यावद् वेदे न जायते। तस्मिन्नेवं मतिद्वैधे मनुः स्वायम्भुवोऽब्रवीत्॥