input: What did Project Manager think about new remote control features proposed by Marketing?
  User Interface: Hi.
  Industrial Designer: Hi.
  Project Manager: Hello.
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Oh.
  Project Manager: Good morning.
  User Interface: Good morning.
  Industrial Designer: Morning.
  Marketing: Good morning.
  Project Manager: Uh before I start with the with the meeting I have a few things to tell you about the the setting we're in, uh because we're uh being watched by uh Big Brother. So um {disfmarker}
  Marketing: By Big Brother?
  Project Manager: Yeah. {vocalsound} Yeah.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Okay.
  Project Manager: This uh {disfmarker} These are cameras, so are these. This thing uh that looks like a pie,
  Marketing: Mm-hmm.
  Project Manager: are actually all microphones.
  Marketing: Yeah. Okay.
  Project Manager: So you must be careful with uh with uh all this. And uh as I can see you uh you have placed your laptops uh exactly on the place where it must be. And that has to do with the camera settings, so we don't have our uh laptops in front of the cameras.
  Marketing: Of our faces.
  Project Manager: And {disfmarker} Indeed. So they can see our faces.
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay.
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Welcome at the kick-off meeting. My name is uh Danny Wolfs. {vocalsound} Uh this is the agenda for today. Uh first a little opening. Uh I will introduce myself, uh and uh I think it's very uh good to introduce uh yourself. Uh then uh a little bit of acquaintance, acquaintance to uh to to ourselves. So uh we get to know each other. Uh that will be done uh with a tool training from the he these two uh smart boards. Then the project plan. What we're going to do, and how we're going to do it. Uh and discussion about that and a little closing at the end. {vocalsound} Okay uh, my name is uh Danny Wolfs. I'm the Project Manager. What's your name?
  User Interface: I'm Juergen Toffs. I'm the User Interface Designer.
  Project Manager: User interface, okay.
  Industrial Designer: Hi, my name's uh {gap}. I'm the Industrial Designer.
  Project Manager: Industrial, yes.
  Marketing: I'm uh Tim {gap}. Um my function is the Marketing Expert.
  Project Manager: Okay, thank you. First a little about the project aim. Uh the the the aim is to make a new remote control. Uh maybe you have read uh read the website. It's a very uh, yeah, very uh ambitious uh company. They uh they wanna do something else. I w Uh there must be a new remote control. Uh first of all uh it must be original, uh and trendy. That's two things really uh close to each other. But at the same time uh user-friendly. And they have uh {disfmarker} Yeah, that's uh very important uh for them. Uh there are three stages. There is a functional design. So uh what are we going uh to uh to do? What are we going to uh uh make f uh kind of functions in the remote? And why are we going to do it? Then the conceptual design. How are going to do it? {vocalsound} And that's uh really global. Uh because at the detailed design, how, part two, uh we go uh to dig in uh really about how the the te the technical of {disfmarker} If it's uh it's possible technical-wise.
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Uh each stage is uh {vocalsound} uh is broken up in two uh two stages, individual work and a meeting. So it's uh it's very straightforward. {vocalsound} Okay, the tool training. We have two smart boards. {vocalsound} This one is for the presentations, the PowerPoint presentations or the Word presentation of whatever you uh you had. Uh and this is uh only for uh drawing. So uh we uh must let it uh stand on this uh this programme. {vocalsound} This is called a smart board
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Speaks for itself.
  Project Manager: thing uh {disfmarker} Yeah, it speaks for itself. Um and as you uh may have heard, the documents in the shared folder uh can be uh showed on this screen. Not in y the the My Documents. So if you wanna show something, put it in the shared folder. {vocalsound} Uh {disfmarker} This uh is {gap} very straightforward, with the save, the print, the undo, the blank, the select, the pen. Well, I don't uh gonna explain it all,
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: because I think you know uh how it works. Um we must not forget uh everything we draw on here, uh all must be saved. We we may not delete anything. So uh if you have uh drawn something, save it. Never delete it. That's a very important uh thing.
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Okay. Uh little uh little {vocalsound} kinda exercise to uh know each other.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} At uh the white board on the left. Every uh every one of us uh must draw our favourite animal,
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} and uh tell uh tell us why we uh had uh chosen that animal. Uh important is that we use different colours, {vocalsound} and uh different pen widths. Widths. Widths.
  Marketing: I have a question.
  Project Manager: Yes?
  Marketing: Um this exercise, um did the company board tell you to do it,
  Project Manager: Yeah.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: or uh did you just make it up yourself?
  Project Manager: No no no. It's uh it's uh {vocalsound} {disfmarker} I I I must do it.
  Marketing: It's part of the introduction,
  Project Manager: Yeah, yeah, yeah.'Cause we uh really don't know each other,
  Marketing: okay.
  Project Manager: and uh it's kinda new. So getting used to each other, we can uh have a little fun then, before we uh dig in really to the hard stuff.
  Marketing: Okay. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: That kind of thing. Would you start with drawing your uh favourite animal?
  Marketing: Um, yeah. I don't know really how it works. But maybe you can show us first?
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay, okay. Yeah, okay. Drawing goes with uh this thing. Do not touch your hand on uh this little uh thingy here. That's uh important.
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: So hold it uh like this.
  User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: You g you get electrocuted or {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yeah, kinda. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: So, {vocalsound} um {disfmarker} You must p p uh push a little uh {disfmarker} Good. Because {disfmarker} And uh wait uh wait a few seconds. It's not uh fully real-time, so uh watch it.
  User Interface: Ach. {gap}
  Project Manager: Oh yeah. Well I'm gonna paint in the red.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Oh.
  User Interface: Ooph.
  Project Manager: That's the background colour. {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Well, undo. Um {disfmarker} The pen? No. One minute please. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah, that's the one. Well, five. Okay. {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} My favourite animal huh?
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: It's like Pictionary? {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah, you can guess what it is.
  Marketing: The the one who says it first {vocalsound} gets a raise.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} May uh paint uh next.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: It's a pork? {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} No, it's not an orc. {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: You don't see it uh at the ears?
  Marketing: Mm yeah, I have it at home. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: You have an orc at home?
  User Interface: Very artistic.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Thank you.
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: So it's a cat. {vocalsound}
  Marketing: What's it called?
  Project Manager: Simba.'Cause uh we have a cat at home
  Marketing: Ah.
  Project Manager: and he's called Simba.'Cause he looks like the uh the the lion from The Lion King.
  User Interface: Okay. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Miniature size?
  Project Manager: So we uh found it kinda cool to uh name it after a lion.
  Marketing: Okay. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: He's happy with us, so uh he's smiling.
  User Interface: Wow. He does have body uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Huh.
  Project Manager: No, only the face. Because we have we have twen twenty five minutes. So we uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Okay. We have to speed up.
  Project Manager: Yeah.
  Marketing: Remember you use uh different colours, and different pen widths.
  Project Manager: Yeah. Okay, who wants to go next?
  Marketing: I {disfmarker} Okay.
  Project Manager: Yeah?
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: So choose a colour, choose a pen width and draw a {disfmarker}
  User Interface: You don't have to change the colour and the pen width during uh the drawing.
  Marketing: Save it.
  Project Manager: Yeah.
  User Interface: Or {disfmarker}
  Marketing: You have to save it.
  Project Manager: Save it, okay.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: I've done it. New?'Kay.
  User Interface: You have to draw uh push hard on the pen or uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Mm uh {disfmarker} Not really.
  Project Manager: Kind of firm touch.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: That one.
  User Interface: Oh. Uh hmm.
  Marketing: Yeah? Okay. Open. Which one is it? Smart board?
  Project Manager: Yeah.
  User Interface: Okay.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Okay. And now? Okay. Okay, thanks.'Kay, I've speed up.'Kay, that's fine. Line width.
  Industrial Designer: By the way, why was your cat uh red?
  Project Manager: Because uh my cat is red uh at home.
  User Interface: Oh.
  Industrial Designer: Oh, okay. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: And I have red hair, so uh must be red.
  User Interface: It's a very bloody cat.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Oh, yeah, sure.
  User Interface: It's a frog. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: No, it's a turtle. {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Uh it's an apple. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} It's not an apple.
  Industrial Designer: Must be a dog. {vocalsound}
  User Interface: A dog? {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah.
  Marketing: Hmm. Colour. {vocalsound} Something like this. Smaller.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Huh?
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Oh, it is a turtle.
  Project Manager: It is a turtle. Why a turtle? Why? Tim?
  Marketing: Um {disfmarker}'Cause I liked Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} You watched it a lot?
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Uh?
  Project Manager: You watched it a lot?
  User Interface: It's uh inside its shell. You'll be uh finished sooner.
  Marketing: No, it's uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: It's a scared turtle.
  Marketing: No no. {vocalsound} It's coming up. Mm. Uh.
  User Interface: Wow.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay, Tim. Thank you. {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Something like this. {vocalsound} Okay, you know {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Very artistic.
  Project Manager: Jurgen, you want to go next?
  User Interface: Yes {gap}. Okay. Wha Thank you.
  Marketing: Yeah? Here you go.
  User Interface: Yeah. Um {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: How did it work?
  Project Manager: Format? And then you have the the current colour,
  User Interface: Performance?
  Project Manager: you can change. So no red or green.
  User Interface: And a pen?
  Project Manager: And uh line uh width. I had five.
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Tim had {disfmarker} Uh Tim, what kinda line width did you have?
  User Interface: Um {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Uh the big lines were like nine.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Okay. It's a dog.
  User Interface: Well, very good. {vocalsound} I just uh thought I'd pick the easiest one.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Uh.
  Project Manager: Okay. Why a dog? You have a dog at home?
  User Interface: Well, we had a dog, a few years ago.
  Project Manager: Had a dog?
  Marketing: Uh, it's p
  Project Manager: Yeah?
  User Interface: And and it, {gap} yeah, when it died we didn't get a new one or something.
  Project Manager: Ah.
  User Interface: But uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: It's pretty good uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: You have an artistic uh inner middle.
  Marketing: {gap} {vocalsound} An artist.
  Project Manager: {gap} {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Uh a Graphical User Designer, so {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Hmm.
  User Interface: Hey.
  Marketing: Think you uh picked the wrong uh function. Wrong job.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Oh.
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: No. Can work together. Ah colour.
  Project Manager: So I think you can see it's real uh really a easy programme to use. Not difficult at all.
  Marketing: Wha
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Well,
  Project Manager: Okay,
  User Interface: it's okay {gap}.
  Project Manager: thank you. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} That's enough,
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: thanks. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Janus? The last one?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, sure.
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Industrial Designer: Uh thanks.
  Marketing: I wonder.
  Project Manager: Yeah. After a cat, a turtle and a dog.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: I think he's gonna draw an elephant. {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: I figure I should do something like that,
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: but I'm gonna do something much more difficult.
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Uh-oh.
  User Interface: Uh-oh. Oh, he is the artistic {gap} design.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: I'm gonna design a remote uh {vocalsound} remote control animal. {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Remote control animal.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Exactly. Uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Oh. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Sorry.
  User Interface: Well with the interface, it might be easier to ha to draw here and display there uh.
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Project Manager: {gap}
  Marketing: That that might be easier. But at the other hand, uh a pen like that is easy to hold in your hand, and {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: No.
  Marketing: I think it's easier to draw.
  Project Manager: Better to draw with a with {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah. With a pen than with a mouse mouse.
  User Interface: Than on the, with {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah, I m I mean like uh like on here, drawing drawing uh. And then displaying on screen, but {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Mouth. Oh, okay. Yeah. W with this paper it's too mu too expensive. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: But what is he uh?
  User Interface: Too expensive, yeah.
  Project Manager: Is it a rabbit?
  Industrial Designer: Yes. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Do you have a rabbit at home?
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: No.
  Marketing: It's a rabbit with uh broken legs? {vocalsound}
  User Interface: A green rabbit.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} No. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Is it a white rabbit f It's the white rabbit from The Matrix.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, exactly. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Okay, then yeah.
  User Interface: There, the g white green rabbit.
  Industrial Designer: So.
  User Interface: {vocalsound} He's a little bit stoned there. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Uh I figured this is a pretty b good impression of a rabbit.
  Marketing: Yeah. It will do.
  Industrial Designer: Uh uh {disfmarker} Uh well.
  Project Manager: Okay. Finishing touch and then we're going further.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Project Manager? Uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yeah?
  Industrial Designer: Where does the pen go? Just uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Have you been uh counting the time?
  Project Manager: Yeah, a little. {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Okay. Let's go on then.
  Project Manager: Well, I think the dog is the the most uh artistic.
  Industrial Designer: Uh I figured the rabbit was actually the most uh impressive. {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Don't choose for youself.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Oh, sorry. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: That's selfish. Okay, now we're gonna dig into the to the serious stuff.
  Marketing: It's pretty abstract.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Uh the selling price for the remote will be uh twenty five Euro, and the production cost uh may not be more than uh twenty and a half Euro. So uh from my point of view, I don't think it's uh gonna be very uh very high tech, high definition, uh ultra modern uh kinda remote, for twelve uh fift uh twelve and a half Euro.
  Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Uh the profit we must make with uh the new remote is uh fifty million Euro. So that's a lot. We have to sell uh a lot of uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah, how much is it?
  Marketing: Like how much?
  User Interface: Hundred million uh remotes or something?
  Project Manager: Uh I think uh w when the selling price is twenty five, uh uh you got two million, two million remotes.
  User Interface: Oh yeah.
  Industrial Designer: Twenty million. Two million, oh yeah, two million. Yeah.
  Project Manager: But our marketing range is uh, market range is international. So we have uh virtually the whole world we can sell uh we can sell our r remotes to. At least that uh countries which have uh a television.
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Project Manager: Um {disfmarker} So now it's time uh for us to uh going uh to discuss a little uh things. You can think about uh experience with a remote control uh yourself, at home. What you think might be uh a useful uh new feature. What uh what can distinguish our new trendy remote control from all the others. Um so uh let's uh let's uh discuss a little. I'm gonna join you at the table. {vocalsound} Well what what's the most uh important thing at a remote control?
  User Interface: Um well I think the most important thing of a remote control is that you can switch channels. And my opinion is you should keep it as basic as possible. Uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Okay. So not a not a remote control who uh uh which can uh can be used for television and a D_V_D_ and radio and {disfmarker} Or just only {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah. I think so. Uh but I have some points. Can I show them on the on the big screen? Maybe?
  Project Manager: If you have them on uh {disfmarker} I can uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah. Yeah, I can find {disfmarker} Uh.
  Project Manager: Okay. Oh, in case you want it {disfmarker} This is a dead kind of fly. Between the the the, yeah, the the uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Screen?
  Project Manager: Yeah, be The screens.
  Marketing: Okay.
  User Interface: Is it possible to open pen drawings in this uh on this screen?
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} No no no. Only {disfmarker} All the drawings go there, at the left uh {disfmarker} {gap}
  User Interface: Uh but um which {disfmarker} The ones we made on the {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Oh, that pen drawings. Uh no, I think uh when it is uh in Word and you have saved it in the Shared Documents folder, you can show it there.
  User Interface: Oh, only in Word,
  Project Manager: Yeah.
  User Interface: okay.
  Marketing: Okay, I have some uh points from marketing point of view.
  Project Manager: Yeah.
  Marketing: Um just the standard thing li things like uh intuitive, uh small, fairly cheap. Uh it's pretty cheap, twenty five Euros. Uh brand independent. Um I think, it doesn't have to matter uh which brand your T_V_ or other thing is. Um {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yeah. Okay. Five minutes.
  Marketing: Five minutes?
  Project Manager: Yeah.
  Marketing: Okay, I'll wrap it up quickly. Um I personally think it has to be multi-purpose.
  Project Manager: Yeah.
  Marketing: Uh most of the remote c uh remote controls are uh just for one purpose.
  Project Manager: Yeah.
  Marketing: And uh by making it multi-purpose, it uh has a new feature, adds a new feature to the market, and distinguish from uh from current products.
  Project Manager: Mm-hmm.
  Marketing: Um maybe some other technology than infrared. Uh I rather find it very annoying um, like when someone is standing in front of the T_V_ then you can't switch it. Um {vocalsound} think about um sending it over radio waves or bluetooth.
  Project Manager: Okay. Okay.
  Marketing: That might be a little bit uh expensive. Um {disfmarker} And something like an L_C_D_ screen.
  User Interface: For what purpose?
  Marketing: Um uh like I said here um {disfmarker} Maybe it's easy. It's nice as an added feature feature, that um, {vocalsound} when you're on a certain channel, you can see on the L_C_D_ screen uh what programmes are coming up or {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Okay. So it be uh a multi-purpose uh very technically uh high uh
  Marketing: From my point of view, yeah.
  Project Manager: remote? Yeah, it must be really uh innovative, technical-wise?
  Marketing: Yeah, it has to be uh {disfmarker} Yeah, our company is very uh good in making new innovative uh things.
  Project Manager: Yeah. So yeah, I I agree with you.
  User Interface: {vocalsound} We {disfmarker}
  Marketing: So i i i i
  Project Manager: So we must focus on things who are really uh really add something to uh to {disfmarker}
  Marketing: To the current market.
  Project Manager: Yeah.
  Marketing: Look, {vocalsound} you got some cheap uh remote controls there. They just uh {disfmarker} Yeah, you got a dozen of'em.
  Project Manager: No.
  Marketing: But when you enter a new market with a remote control and
  Project Manager: Mm-hmm.
  Marketing: uh wanna gain market share
  Project Manager: Yeah.
  Marketing: you have to do something special, I think.
  Project Manager: Yeah. But we have to keep an eye that it's {disfmarker} Uh at the beginning of such a project, it's it's it's very uh cool to talk about, well, this would be cool, that would be cool.
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Uh but we must not uh lose uh sight of the the user uh uh friendly uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah, of course.
  User Interface: And and the price. {gap}
  Marketing: But it's {disfmarker} But but this is just from marketing uh aspect.
  Project Manager: Yeah okay. Yeah. Okay.
  Marketing: I don't know anything about user interface or {vocalsound} design.
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Okay.
  Project Manager: {gap} And that's because we have him. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} And and him. {vocalsound}
  User Interface: And him. {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Okay, uh next meeting will start in thirty minutes. So uh you uh will have uh individual actions where I presume uh will be some feedback, uh via the m the mail. Um {vocalsound} the the the Industrial uh Designer has to uh look at the working design. {vocalsound} Uh the User Interface Designer has to look at the technical functions. So that's the thing we uh discussed.
  User Interface: Yeah. Um one thing uh,
  Project Manager: Yeah?
  User Interface: we must first agree on uh what we're going to m going to make. Do we {disfmarker} Are we going to use um it it for multiple systems? Or uh {disfmarker} We should have some agreement on that before we {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Okay. Um wha
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Mm uh I I don't think we have to be, we have to agree on that. Uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: I figure we could get back to it on the next meeting actually.
  Marketing: I think th that's a pha Yeah.
  User Interface: Okay.
  Marketing: That's a phase further.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah.
  Marketing: Ju just uh make some mock-ups, some some general ideas.
  User Interface: Ah okay.
  Marketing: And and then we can plan {disfmarker} Yeah.
  Project Manager: Yeah.
  Marketing: We can plan further, I think.
  Project Manager: Yeah. But maybe, because uh you are working on the user requirements, you are working on the technical functions, we uh must uh have a little or kinda uh uh uh {disfmarker} How do you call it? Uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Consensus on the, what we're gonna do.
  Project Manager: Uh a little plan on on what we're going to do. So you don't uh uh come up with the user requirements who don't fit the the the the technical functions at all. Some basic things we co we want to going to do. Uh I think that's well uh {disfmarker} Yeah. Will come in handy.
  Marketing: Mm yeah.
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Marketing: I don't know. You decide. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Okay.
  Marketing: You're the Project Manager.
  Project Manager: W {vocalsound} He says {disfmarker}
  User Interface: if the technical functions have to be designed, I I've gotta know for what kind of machines they will be.
  Project Manager: Yeah.
  User Interface: Or do we use it a text screen? Or uh will it be with uh with bluetooth or {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Well, th that's that's really a step further. But if you say uh {vocalsound} is it uh uh one way or multi-purpose, that's a {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Okay. Mm-hmm.
  Marketing: Uh tha that's a same step further.
  Project Manager: Why?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, actually it is.
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Project Manager: Why?
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Then looking at individual components,
  Marketing: Uh.
  Industrial Designer: so that's actually a f step further.
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Project Manager: Yeah.
  Marketing: Like we all have a list of uh things that has to b that have to be in it, or how it has to be like. And then in the next meeting we decide
  Project Manager: Yeah.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, we can take it from there.
  Marketing: w what it's gonna be.
  Project Manager: Okay.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, I agree uh, we can take it from there.
  Marketing: A And then you s then you can delete uh
  Industrial Designer: Or edit.
  Marketing: the o the obsolete uh details.
  Project Manager: Okay. So uh
  Marketing: I think.
  Project Manager: each individually i individually uh must think on what's uh at uh his point of view is the most important. And uh then we're going to fit uh all the pieces together the next meeting.
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Project Manager: I must finish off now,
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Project Manager: so it's over. You uh will receive specific specific instructions uh by your personal coach. And I see you in uh thirty minutes. Thank you.
  User Interface: Okay.
  Industrial Designer: Okay, cheers.
  User Interface: Sorry.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Be careful.
  Marketing: Damn.
  User Interface: Yes.
  Marketing: Success? {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah. No. Come up.
output: Marketing put forward innovative ideas including using radio waves and bluetooth. In the proposal, some potential problems about high cost and being limited to marketing aspects had also been mentioned by Marketing. Based on this, PM agreed that those ideas could help the product to be special and competitive, but PM also pinpointed that such a product required strong support of high technology. Besides, being user-friendly should not be ignored.