input: Why did the marketing disagree with the user interface designer on the shape of the product when discussing product appearance?
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {gap}
  Marketing: {gap}
  Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm So, ready? {gap}
  User Interface:'Kay
  Marketing: No not really Just {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Crap.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Sorry, {vocalsound} I I um {disfmarker} {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Okay.
  User Interface: It's perfect. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Your judgement it's {disfmarker} is biased. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: I'm afraid {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Uh thi this remote control will stay a prototype. {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing:'Kay, so whe where is the remote control?
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} So, we are {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Where? {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: It's here. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: So {vocalsound} let's go for our detailed design meeting.
  Industrial Designer: Okay.
  Marketing: Yep.
  Project Manager: So I will still play the role of the secretary, and we'll have um first the project presentation by our User Interface Designer, David Jordan,
  User Interface: Okay.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah. {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} and our Industrial Designer, Baba.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} So we'll have to evaluate the uh {disfmarker} your proposed remote control,
  User Interface:'Kay.
  Project Manager: and um have an idea of the price that uh this thing will cost. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {gap} {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} And in case if we're {disfmarker} we all agree on the fabrica of um building of this remote control, we'll evaluate the um production.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} So maybe I will let the {disfmarker} our two designers talk about so their {disfmarker}
  User Interface: I have slides.
  Project Manager: You have s oh, sorry.
  Industrial Designer: Okay.
  Project Manager: Oops.
  User Interface: Ah,
  Industrial Designer: Effectively one slide and maybe we can discuss everything.
  User Interface: Product prod
  Marketing: What slides?
  User Interface: Yep. Okay. Okay. {vocalsound} So, this is our product or prototype. This is made by clay.
  Project Manager: Looks strange. {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah. {vocalsound} Uh the basic colour is uh yellow and red. Yellow is uh our company colour,
  Project Manager: Okay.
  User Interface: uh red it's uh is more attractive. So we used two basic colour, yellow and red. And the shape, there's two basic shape. The first is a circle and the second is a triangle s piece.
  Industrial Designer: Okay.
  User Interface: It's {disfmarker} we call it a mushroom design.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: It's looks like some mushroom, so we call it mushroom design.
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah. Uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: So this is a introduction of our product.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Genetically modified mushroom I will say, but
  User Interface: Next a mo
  Marketing: Yeah.
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Okay,
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} {disfmarker} keep on speaking.
  User Interface: yeah, so next slide. So there are several key features of our pr prototype. The first is that it is fuzzy. I'm sure this would be the unique design the market.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Oh.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah, yeah I'm sure {vocalsound}. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Maybe, I hope so. {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah, so it's a fuzzy design, and a unique design.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, that's true.
  User Interface: Um, and uh the second key feature is that uh s circle channel um selection. In the traditional key uh traditional controller use button to to select the channel but now we have a s circle, so we can turn this ball to t to select channel.
  Project Manager: Chan
  User Interface: So it's quite convenient for user to use it.
  Project Manager: Yeah, okay, but don't touch {disfmarker} don't destroy your prototype. {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah, s {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: okay. Uh the third feature is a stable triangle base. Uh this sta uh this triangle base is very stable, so uh so it's it's um it's unlikely you cannot found it. So it's v Um, you can put it in the table so you can turn the the ball to cha to select the channel and there's some cute button. You c can can you can see the the shape of the buttons n is a mushroom, so {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Everything's mushroom. So we can call our remote control the mushroom.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah {gap}.
  User Interface: Yeah, everything's mushroom. Mush Mushroom design, yeah.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah but it's not like really mushroom because you have uh you know uh {vocalsound} like lemon shape, you know, centre {vocalsound} is yellow and t d
  User Interface: Yeah
  Project Manager: Okay.
  User Interface: Yeah, th that's why if you put it in the table, be careful, somebody will eat it. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: To integrate, you know {disfmarker} yeah.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: I don't think {disfmarker} {vocalsound} I hope nobody will eat it {gap} You know, to integrate the fruit aspect, you know the {vocalsound} the {vocalsound} in
  Project Manager: Oh.
  User Interface: Yeah
  Marketing: Yeah, because mushroom was not in the trends. I mean there was fruits {disfmarker} yeah. {vocalsound} Yeah.
  Project Manager: Fruits and vegetables.
  Industrial Designer: Really? But {disfmarker} Fruit and vegetable,
  Project Manager: Vegetables. Mushroom is a vegetable.
  Industrial Designer: so mushroom was a kind of you know {gap} uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah.
  Marketing: I don't think it is.
  Project Manager: It's vegetable.
  Industrial Designer: Mushroom?
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Marketing: Mm-hmm.
  Industrial Designer: Oh, uh I'm not sure. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: So th it's something eatable.
  Industrial Designer: We can {disfmarker} it's a veg a kind of vegetable,
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Industrial Designer: but you know we we integrated them with different colour.
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Marketing: But anyway this is not a mushroom anyway, so it's fine.
  User Interface: Yeah. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {disfmarker} {vocalsound} I think we take into account what you said about fruit and vegetable {gap} you know. This, you know, very enlighted colours, you know.
  Marketing: No, I mean, yeah {vocalsound} yeah. Inspira inspiration is {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: And inspired colour
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: and {vocalsound} and very sophisticated material, so.
  Marketing: True.
  Industrial Designer: And so {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Project Manager: Next slide.
  User Interface: Uh, no this our only two slides. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {gap}
  Industrial Designer: So what we w what I can add is that, you know {vocalsound} he talk about what is outside, so what is inside is what we dis what we talked before about, you know, the chip,
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Industrial Designer: it is a low level chip, and {disfmarker}
  User Interface: So we cut it to see. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: You know, we don't need to k {vocalsound}.
  Project Manager: Mm-hmm.
  Industrial Designer: You know wi {vocalsound} the low level chips inside and you know the L_C_D_ button and the i
  User Interface: Okay. So where's the battery battery?
  Industrial Designer: The battery it is under {gap}.
  Project Manager: In the base.
  Industrial Designer: It is in th in {disfmarker} in the base, yeah. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: In the basement. In the basement.
  User Interface: Base. Here?
  Project Manager: And where is the solar solar cell?
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: But we say uh we sa we said solar.
  Project Manager: Where is the solar cell?
  Industrial Designer: In fact this this this this is a kind of you know revolutionary solar receptor that we can put outside and {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Oh. Do you think it won't be {disfmarker} It won't cris increase the price?
  User Interface: Okay
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {gap} I don't think so,
  Project Manager: Okay, we'll see after.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} but it it's might be okay, so.
  Project Manager: We will have first to {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: I it might be okay. So {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: so, mister money, what's your opinion according to this remote control?
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: I mean, we gonna try to measure how good it is instead of just talking about {disfmarker} uh
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: we had three keys {disfmarker} {vocalsound} key points to uh for this remote control design,
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: and first one was uh
  Project Manager: Mm-hmm.
  Marketing: fancy look and feel.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah.
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Marketing: So w we'll try to judge this feature uh with a one to seven scale, one being uh no, I think.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Uh just let me check.
  Industrial Designer: So, four point {disfmarker} three point five, it means it's acceptable.
  Marketing: One one being true, and seven being false. Okay.
  Industrial Designer: Oops.
  Marketing: Ouch. So
  User Interface: Okay.
  Marketing: Do we have a fancy look and feel, according to you?
  User Interface: Yeah, I think so.
  Industrial Designer: I think you have nice colours. {vocalsound} I don't {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: But is it {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: The sha the bowl shape people like.
  User Interface: Yeah, the shape is unique, and the colour {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Uh I'll agree it's unique, but is it really {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Is it really fancy?
  User Interface: {vocalsound} So it depend on how d do you define fancy.
  Marketing: Yeah I mean, fancy was was defined by s fruit and vegetable look.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: But it's {disfmarker} you have the lemon aspect of this th this {vocalsound} this thing. {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Maybe if you change {disfmarker} if you take the buttons out, and maybe do things like that {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Do Don't do that, please.
  Marketing: I dunno where the lemon is, but
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I it's it's i this shape is a lemon like, so {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: I mean it's not obvious.
  Project Manager: It would be bet more like a lemon?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: If {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Because i
  Marketing: I dunno, maybe improving the texture of like having it less smooth or {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yeah.
  Industrial Designer: Less button.
  User Interface: Uh so, my mush {disfmarker}.
  Industrial Designer: {gap}
  Project Manager: Looks like more fruit. Maybe a pineapple?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, but you don't have any button now.
  User Interface: Mm.
  Marketing: Yeah. I dunno.
  Project Manager: And you know, you have the finger here, with the buttons?
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Industrial Designer: That's uh yeah, is that {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Hmm.
  Industrial Designer: that's a good idea.
  Marketing: Yeah, it's getting {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: It looks {vocalsound} more like a pineapple.
  Industrial Designer: So that's great. {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Sorry.
  Industrial Designer: That's great. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: What's the use for that?
  Industrial Designer: I have no idea, so. {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Uh, for turn turn the ball. If you want to turn the ball, it's very it's very convenient for you to to to turn the ball to change the channel.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: I have no idea {vocalsound} what {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} And where is the voice recognition?
  Marketing: Okay.
  User Interface: Uh. Ah, it's embedded, your microphone.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Okay.
  User Interface: Th this th th there's two two functions.
  Marketing: Yeah, that's {disfmarker} Wait th that's the second point.
  User Interface: This is microphone array {disfmarker}
  Marketing: First one is we have to judge the fancy look and feel.
  Industrial Designer: If it is fancy or not.
  Project Manager: Okay. Is it better like that?
  Marketing: I mean {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Looks {disfmarker} okay,
  Industrial Designer: So we can we can say t
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: let's say it's a pineapple now. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: The colour, is the colour acceptable?
  Marketing: {vocalsound} No, the colour is okay, that's fine.
  Industrial Designer: So the shape now.
  Marketing: I mean it's {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: It looks like a {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
  Marketing: but I would say there is more {disfmarker} too much red.
  Project Manager: now you took it.
  Industrial Designer: It's too much red?
  Marketing: Um if
  Industrial Designer: In the basement?
  Project Manager: It looks like a pineapple with cherry on top.
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Okay.
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Right. So, from one to seven?
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I will give {disfmarker} I will {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Mm uh {disfmarker} Seven is the ma the maximum?
  Industrial Designer: I'll gi
  Marketing: No, seven is false and one is true.
  Industrial Designer: I'll give two or three.
  Project Manager: Three, I will say three.
  Industrial Designer: Three, it's okay. Three, three. Three is fine for me.
  Marketing: Three?
  User Interface:'Kay
  Marketing: Okay.
  Project Manager: Isn't it bitter like that {gap}?
  Marketing: Three.
  User Interface: Yeah yeah yeah. {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Then {vocalsound} uh let me {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: What other {disfmarker}
  Marketing: The other criterion is is it technologically uh technologically in innovative.
  Industrial Designer: Is it easy to use? {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Feasible? {vocalsound} You said previously that you {disfmarker} there's um microphone inside an
  Industrial Designer: Ye uh {disfmarker} Embedded.
  User Interface: Yeah, this is microphone array, in fact.
  Industrial Designer: It's a micro array, okay.
  User Interface: There four microphone.
  Project Manager: Oh. Okay,
  User Interface: So they they they they {disfmarker} there's a microphone array.
  Project Manager: and you have the {disfmarker} there's the technology inside that recognise simple vocal comments?
  User Interface: Yeah, yeah.
  Project Manager: And you can turn it so maybe it's techno technologically innov innovative?
  User Interface: So you can capture voice {disfmarker} yeah, you c
  Industrial Designer: Oh yeah, yeah.
  User Interface: Yeah, so you can capture s voice from different directions. Yeah.
  Industrial Designer: And I think you {disfmarker} you've never seen a rou a round remote control, so it is {disfmarker} I
  Marketing: Yeah bu but when you say technologically it's more uh I dunno, in the core, or single.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} W Yeah, but {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: We have tactile buttons.
  Marketing: Mm-hmm.
  Industrial Designer: I see, you have microphone array embedded. You have {disfmarker}
  Marketing: No, that's good. Yeah.
  Industrial Designer: That's good.
  Project Manager: Oh, yeah.
  Marketing: Yeah, th that's another really good point. Maybe {disfmarker} okay.
  Industrial Designer: I think technically it's acceptable, so {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Maybe two?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah.
  Marketing: So using the same scale, two?
  Project Manager: Two? I would say two
  Industrial Designer: Two, yeah, two. It's it's fine, so.
  Project Manager: . You agree?
  User Interface: Yeah, I agree.
  Marketing: Okay.
  Project Manager: It's better like that, isn't it?
  User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Now maybe the most critical one.
  Project Manager: Okay.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Most {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} L last one w I would like to judge is is it easy to use?
  Industrial Designer: Eh, for th the vocal command yes, it's might be easy. But it's just speaking.
  User Interface: Yeah, it's very easy.
  Industrial Designer: You just need the command.
  User Interface: You can use this in this way.
  Marketing: Yeah but this this turning {disfmarker} can you can you just re explain me the {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: As a principle. {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Please.
  User Interface: Th this is the base.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: So you can turn to change the channel.
  Marketing: Yeah. Yeah but how how intuitive is it to turn things to change channels?
  User Interface: You just tu turn d d
  Industrial Designer: I think maybe if you he
  Project Manager: Oh, ok I understand.
  Marketing: Like if you want to go from {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: You take take {vocalsound} the remote, so {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: If you hear some click {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: and you can turn like that to change the channel? {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah. Yeah.
  Marketing: Yeah but imagine you y
  Project Manager: I think it's quite easy to so s zapping, but maybe it will be too fast. {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah I'm I'm no I'm not definitely convinced it's it's the best way to {disfmarker} if you wanna jump from, I dunno, one to twenty?
  Industrial Designer: Oh yeah, that's difficult. That's dif that's difficult.
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Marketing: How can you go directly to twenty, for example? {vocalsound}
  User Interface: No, no, no. I {disfmarker} if y uh if {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah.
  User Interface: it depend on the the angle you turn the {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah. I agree. I agree.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah but y how {disfmarker} you need to know {disfmarker} I {disfmarker}
  Marketing: But I mean if you're fro from two?
  User Interface: I if if this is a channel one. So it c it could be channel two, channel three, channel four, channel five.
  Industrial Designer: I think something that {disfmarker} Yeah.
  Project Manager: Yeah, you have a {vocalsound}, like that, and so on.
  User Interface: So change. Yeah.
  Industrial Designer: And you you can {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah ju just imagine you have fifty fifty channels uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Oh yeah.
  User Interface: Y uh fifth channel divided by the num by the {disfmarker} by three hundred thirteen degree.
  Marketing: We're not talking {disfmarker} Yeah.
  User Interface: So you got how many degree you you {disfmarker} it {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yeah but y but you have to go through all the channels if you want to go {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: I think you can if you have a scale, so {disfmarker}
  User Interface: No no, you don't have to y no it's uh when you when you stop t uh when you stop, the the turn,
  Project Manager: Mm-hmm.
  User Interface: then the angle you stop is the angle you {disfmarker} is the channel you {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah. How d how do you know this angle is th is the correct one?
  User Interface: It's it's very easy, because you kn you know how many channel are there in the {disfmarker}
  Marketing: So you you count {gap} one degree, two degrees, no.
  User Interface: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can do it.
  Marketing: I don't think so. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah, it's a bit difficult.
  User Interface: I think so {vocalsound} I think so you can do it. {vocalsound} I think so, you can just change.
  Industrial Designer: I think b but the the vocal command is easy too. You can say fifty and fifty it's okay, so {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah voc vocal command is okay. But w we've said previously that maybe it's not going to be th l the main {disfmarker}
  User Interface: There's uh also a number, you know.
  Project Manager: Yeah, but when you're zapping you're changing from one channel to the other, so you're passing through all the channels. So, when you say I want to go to the channel number twenty that's {disfmarker} you've decided to go to channel twenty, so you can say channel twenty, or channel four, because you really want to go on this channel.
  Industrial Designer: Uh, yeah, and y that's {disfmarker} yeah.
  Project Manager: But if you really want to to do zapping you you don't really know what you want to do, you can turn it.
  Marketing: And this would be more for browsing, ah.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Project Manager: Just go through all the channels and maybe stop if there is something interesting?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah. To see uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Mm-hmm.
  Industrial Designer: yeah {vocalsound} uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah. Yeah.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah.
  Marketing: Mm-hmm.
  Project Manager: Seems to be good.
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Good choice, mister David Jordan. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah. {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah, I mean you're famous. You {gap}.
  Industrial Designer: And but I'd {disfmarker}
  User Interface: And also you can, if you i
  Project Manager: {gap} yeah, what's what's this cherry?
  User Interface: You ca you can turn this. Or you ca you can you can also turn this.
  Industrial Designer: It is a turn off t turn off button, maybe.
  User Interface: For this you can tune it's for tune. You you if you want to skip from channel one to channel two, you you skip this. If you want to from uh skip from channel one to channel ten you tune this.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {gap} {vocalsound}
  User Interface: It's like fine, from coarse to fine.
  Marketing: Mm.
  User Interface: This is coarse, this is fine.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, yeah yeah. That's
  Project Manager: Okay.
  User Interface: So it's coarse to fine design.
  Industrial Designer: that's very technologic, so. {vocalsound} Yeah.
  User Interface: Yeah. {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Okay the uh th this looks better. Yeah.
  User Interface: Yeah is is {disfmarker} this is, from one channel to maybe to ten channel.
  Industrial Designer: S But I di I didn't see where the t f the turn off t turn on turn off button so much activates
  User Interface: This is from one channel to {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: maybe one of the {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah. Yeah.
  Project Manager: Yeah, th you have the vocal commands.
  Industrial Designer: Uh it's k {gap}
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Project Manager: On off.
  Industrial Designer: on off, yeah.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah, but it has to be on to recognise fas
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Most of the time you have the {disfmarker} yeah it's a sleeping remote control.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah, sleeping.
  Marketing: Ah, that's not the ecological part, yeah.
  Project Manager: That's true. W that why we have the solar ti yeah.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} To compensate {gap}.
  Marketing: Solar.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah.
  User Interface: Okay.
  Project Manager: So
  Marketing: So, which number?
  Project Manager: {disfmarker} three.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Easy to use, it's very relative but three it's fine, I think, it's reasonable three. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Do you agree?
  User Interface: Mm-hmm.
  Project Manager: Three?
  User Interface: Yeah, agree, agree.
  Marketing: So reasonably, is four, is one?
  Industrial Designer: Three f three for me, it's o it's okay.
  Marketing: So, three.
  User Interface: {gap}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Four or three. Maybe you can vote to see how many everybody gives and {disfmarker} no and just take the mean.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: And what's your opinion?
  Industrial Designer: Will you give four?
  Marketing: Uh we wouldn't say, I mean, those are sort of agreed but this one would be more five to me.
  Industrial Designer: Five? Yeah, so maybe if {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Uh w w what do y what uh {disfmarker} you compare with traditional uh um tr traditional controller?
  Marketing: Yeah.
  User Interface: I think it's easier than traditional controller. If you use traditional controller you have to put a button, but now you don't have to put button, you have {disfmarker} you just turn the turn the ball.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah but y you know {gap} {disfmarker}
  User Interface: There's two kind of balls,
  Marketing: So you have {disfmarker}
  User Interface: the smaller the the the {disfmarker} so you can c you can c you can control the scale.
  Marketing: {vocalsound} yeah.
  User Interface: But in the traditional controller, how do {disfmarker} how can you control the scale?
  Marketing: Uh by pushing zero after after the first one.
  Industrial Designer: You just push two button, zero and and one.
  User Interface: Yeah,
  Industrial Designer: And that's {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  User Interface: yeah, yeah, y you you can do it, but you can also do it in the b if you you do not wa if you do not want to browsing all the channel you can just p there's also a button here.
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Industrial Designer: Are there some buttons? Okay.
  User Interface: Yeah, this function is just for your browsing, from one channel to th the next one, the next s sn s, the th the third one.
  Project Manager: It's not what you said previously.
  Marketing: Mm-hmm.
  Project Manager: Previously you said that turning this was the fine {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah, if you're changing your mind.
  Industrial Designer: {gap}
  Marketing: Fine to coarse.
  Project Manager: Fine to coarse.
  User Interface: Yeah, yeah.
  Project Manager: And from ten to ten channels here.
  User Interface: Y one to ten, ten to twelve, uh ten to t uh twenty. Ten to twenty and this one, t one two three four five six, like this.
  Project Manager: Okay.
  User Interface: Uh there's different scale, so you can you can choose how much do you want to sc
  Marketing: Okay. But this this has to stay on the table, right?
  User Interface: Mm-hmm.
  Marketing: This has to stay on the table.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} In fact on a flat place {disfmarker}
  User Interface: I i this is just a base. You can just {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: You can {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Marketing: Yeah but then uh when you turn turn it {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Oh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah, no no, no. You can't put it out.
  Industrial Designer: Oh ye yes, that's right.
  Marketing: Just {disfmarker} It's {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: It's just your turning from the base. You need to have everything in hand. If you want to turn, you can't use it and turn.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: It's impossible. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Oh
  Project Manager: You need to put it on and turn. {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah. You know tha that's the weak point,
  User Interface: {vocalsound} You use your y
  Marketing: because with a traditional one you just have one hand.
  Project Manager: Yeah, but nobody would be able to take it in the pocket and bring it in the kitchen and say I've lost the remote control.
  Industrial Designer: my God.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {gap} {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} So th this is a d next generation controller. {vocalsound} Yeah. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Nobody would take it. {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Sure. {vocalsound} Yeah, you would never you would never lose this one, yeah.
  Project Manager: So nobody w will lost {disfmarker} lose it.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} yeah maybe, maybe may
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: it's the next prototype, maybe we cou
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Okay okay, okay.
  Project Manager: S maybe we can change from th
  Industrial Designer: Four. Maybe four, it's okay.
  User Interface: Four. Okay.
  Project Manager: Four? Easy to use, four.
  Industrial Designer: I'll put four.
  Project Manager: Gonna say four.
  Marketing: Four.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, four it's more reasonable.
  Marketing: Uh it's even easier to {disfmarker} maybe.
  Industrial Designer: You can you can erase with this er yeah.
  Marketing: Ok
  User Interface: Okay.
  Marketing: Mm.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, four it's more reasonable, so. So it's nine,
  Marketing: So, average?
  Industrial Designer: nine over three.
  User Interface: Three?
  Marketing: Three?
  Project Manager: Trois. Three. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Oh yeah, it's {gap}.
  User Interface: Trois. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Okay, so {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: It need maybe some wo further work, but it's {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah, especially on the easy to use
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, uh s yeah.
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Marketing: target.
  Industrial Designer: Might {disfmarker} it might be fine.
  Project Manager: So, th the project is accepted?
  Marketing: Okay.
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, b I think {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: But I d m I think that it will be good to do some more work to transform this into a pineapple.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, yeah.
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Project Manager: If you re we really want to have a fruitful remote control. {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Okay.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} So uh mm mm. Mm.
  Industrial Designer: That's the finance.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay and we we had a project prototype presentation with the evaluation. So as we all agree to accept, under certain conditions, the prototype, we'll have look to the final sh financial view.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah.
  User Interface: Mm. Okay.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} So we need to calculate the production cost. As I said in the first meeting we need to have so a remote control that would cost not more than twelve and point fifty Euros.
  Marketing: Mm-hmm.
  User Interface: Mm-hmm.
  Project Manager: And if not {disfmarker} if it's not the case y you would have to redesign it.
  User Interface: Mm-hmm.
  Industrial Designer: Oh yeah.
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Project Manager: So, just have a look at the {disfmarker} okay here is the Excel sheet, so
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: so it has the energy source. We have hand dynamo. No, we don't use that.
  Marketing: No.
  Project Manager: We have battery, right?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, we have battery.
  Project Manager: Kinetic, we don't have it, I suppose,
  Industrial Designer: No,
  Project Manager: but we have solar cells.
  Industrial Designer: um solar cells, yeah.
  Project Manager: Um, how many do y do you need, solar cells? Do you think one would be enough, or {disfmarker} such as {vocalsound} as number of branches?
  Industrial Designer: Uh I think in each ball you have three {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Three?
  Industrial Designer: three uh yeah, three, yeah. Three {gap} three solar cells.
  Project Manager: So, electronic. Single simple chip on print? Just one would be necessary?
  Industrial Designer: S s simple, simple, yeah.
  Project Manager: One?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah.
  Project Manager: Zero for the others. And sample sensor, sample speaker. One?
  Industrial Designer: Mm. One maybe, yeah.
  Project Manager: As we have voice recognition, I think.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah yeah yeah.
  Project Manager: So the case.
  Industrial Designer: Is it {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Is sh it {gap}
  Marketing: So we are all already nineteen.
  Industrial Designer: Wooden. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Okay,
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: just keep on going, just to have an idea.
  User Interface: The solar cell is too expensive. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Is {disfmarker} Yes a wooden pl I and that's {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Well uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: There's no wood, so plastic just only, I think.
  Project Manager: yeah, but what what about case? Uncurved, flat, single curved, double curved. I think it's more like double curved.
  Marketing: That's gonna be double curved, yeah.
  Industrial Designer: Double curve, yeah, double curve.
  Project Manager: One?
  Industrial Designer: One, you have.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Uh wood? {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: But it's {disfmarker} yeah, a a rubber uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Rather four buttons.
  Project Manager: Uh do we need special colour?
  Marketing: Oh no, interface.
  Project Manager: Y maybe, two? We have two special colours.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, yeah. Y y yeah, yeah.
  Marketing: Yeah, yeah that's special colours, sure.
  Project Manager: Push button.
  User Interface: Mm. Yeah, we have four.
  Industrial Designer: Five?
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Five. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Okay. {vocalsound} Scroll wheel. We don no.
  User Interface: No.
  Project Manager: It it's more like integrated scor.
  Industrial Designer: I think that this will be like a scroll wheel, actually.
  User Interface: No no.
  Marketing: Yeah tha that's wheel.
  Industrial Designer: Y you tu you turn you turn it, so {disfmarker}
  User Interface: No no no, it {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Okay.
  Project Manager: Yeah, maybe two scroll wheel, as we have the coarse coarse to fine scroll wheel.
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, true. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah. Scr
  Project Manager: So, no button supplements?
  Marketing: I think the price is okay.
  User Interface: No.
  Project Manager: Okay.
  Marketing: Um, no.
  Project Manager: Okay we {disfmarker} I think we have problem. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: L_C_ display, maybe. Interface.
  Project Manager: I think we s if we keep on adding things {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: It's okay. {vocalsound} {gap} fine {gap}.
  Project Manager: so we have to {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah w one of the m key point is solar cells.
  Project Manager: Maybe if w t if suppose if we change and we g put just one?
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Project Manager: Has it changed.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, it was stage one, so.
  Marketing: No y i it did change, but
  Project Manager: Okay.
  User Interface: We have change the electronics to {disfmarker} from from the the the sample sensor to regular chip. Oh.
  Marketing: just imagine we have {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: So {disfmarker}
  User Interface: We have to delete the the sample sensor, I think.
  Project Manager: Yeah, but we have {disfmarker} you {disfmarker} the the voice recognition,
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Project Manager: no?
  Marketing: Yeah but this one one of the feature we were not really {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah it's the one it's {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Okay.
  User Interface: m maybe we ha we have two versions, the first version, the basic version.
  Industrial Designer: I think you can transform the wood into plastic, maybe.
  User Interface: Advanced version we have speak.
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Industrial Designer: Because uh it seems that this can be {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah, if {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Or it would be better.
  Industrial Designer: yeah, wood into plastic and it it should be fine.
  User Interface: Plastic is free. {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} So, do we need special colour?
  Marketing: Yeah, that's one of the requirement.
  Project Manager: Because we have red.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, red and yellow.
  Project Manager: Red and yellow.
  User Interface: Wait.
  Industrial Designer: Fancy.
  User Interface: We we can we can we c {vocalsound}
  Marketing: We could turn we could turn everything in either yellow or black.
  User Interface: yellow.
  Marketing: Black then is a regular colour, so.
  Project Manager: I think so we need {disfmarker} if we try to have a kind of
  Industrial Designer: {gap}
  Marketing: Yeah, one.
  Project Manager: pineapple bee. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah. So push button then it's it's the next expensive one.
  Project Manager: Yeah. An but we have integrated scroll wheel with push dut button. And I think this is one. Integrated scroll wheel push button
  Marketing: Yeah, thi this might be.
  Project Manager: . So we'll {disfmarker} we have only one? And push button.
  Marketing: Close to.
  Project Manager: So if we have all integrated i in the scroll wheel and push button, it's uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: One. I can remove maybe f you have five with push buttons, so we can just, I dunno, try to modify some of them to have {disfmarker} yeah.
  Marketing: Okay, so what's the bottleneck?
  User Interface: How about we change the sale?
  Marketing: Double curved.
  Industrial Designer: Double curve. We can transform the double curve into single c yeah.
  Project Manager: Something flat.
  Industrial Designer: F some {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah, but flat {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: S uncurved. Yeah, maybe not.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Single curve {gap}.
  Marketing: Case, what's the ca
  Project Manager: Yeah.
  Industrial Designer: Single curve should be fine, so. Oh, what {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Mm. Nearly.
  User Interface: Ah we have one {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: And then one Euro left.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Um.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Maybe don't bat no battery, only solar cells.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} It's it's a bad idea, so. {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Um {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} I think there's a problem with the push push button. We only need maybe just one.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Two?
  Project Manager: Just one.
  Industrial Designer: One. {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah.
  Industrial Designer: That's fine. That's fine. {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Okay. Okay. {vocalsound} Agree.
  Project Manager: So {vocalsound} yeah, you will have {disfmarker}
  Marketing: So we have one button,
  Industrial Designer: {gap} One s one scroll wheel, so
  Marketing: one wheel.
  Project Manager: So one button, and s scroll wheel with push button on it.
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {disfmarker} {vocalsound} And the vocal chord, it's fine. {gap} It I th it's fine.
  Project Manager: So {disfmarker}
  Marketing: It's good they're not charging anything for that. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: So, yeah. It think we we've done good job, as the cost is
  User Interface: Cou could we have look {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: twelve fifty e
  User Interface: Could we have look at the p the the prod the p the cost?
  Marketing: Yeah y actually it's wrong. We're not under twelve Euros and a half.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah, but it's under or equal. It's not written. Sometimes it's under or equal.
  Industrial Designer: It's fine. It's under or equal. It's fine, so {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Okay. Okay.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Okay. So let's say {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Twelve fifty.
  User Interface: Wha what {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: It's fine, twelve fifty uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: yeah. Which part is the most expensive part? {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Solar cells.
  Project Manager: Yeah, I think.
  Industrial Designer: The solar cells, r is i is it?
  User Interface: Yeah, I think it's not t t
  Project Manager: I think, yeah. But it would i be interesting for our marketing team, to make a lot of advertisement concerning these solar cells to be {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, to be able to si to sell it.
  Marketing: Yeah.
  User Interface: Cheaper.
  Marketing: That's nice argument,
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, with mi
  Marketing: but if it's it's still four our of twelve.
  Industrial Designer: It's {disfmarker} it is really really uh really very very expensive, though.
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Industrial Designer: Maybe if uh {disfmarker} okay.
  Project Manager: Yeah but it will be technologically innova innovative, so. {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Okay.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, yeah.
  Marketing: Yeah but we just have one button. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: So it's easy to use and powerful, as the remote control a has only one button.
  Marketing: Easy. I don't know about powerful. Yeah.
  Project Manager: Easy, powerful.
  Industrial Designer: It's easy to use. It's very easy to use. {gap} {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Mm.
  Project Manager: So I don't think we need to redesign the p the product.
  Industrial Designer: No.
  Marketing: Uh that's what we've just done.
  Industrial Designer: We've done it with {disfmarker} it is under the {disfmarker} if it was low, high or so.
  Project Manager: Yeah.
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Project Manager: So {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Um okay.
  Project Manager: Now {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: So {disfmarker} So what are we going to do with this project evaluation?
  Project Manager: So {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Well I think we have just have to discuss if {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Okay, okay, it's fine.
  Marketing: I dunno.
  Project Manager: So did you enjoy your clay modelling?
  User Interface: Yes. Of course. This is my job. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah? {vocalsound} Was it a nice way to create your remote control?
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah, it's uh it's good, to to create a control instead of a computer. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, I think I find it really funny and amazing and interesting to go through all the process to {disfmarker} from the beginning to the end. And designing, looking at the chips, the solar cells and uh and it was very {vocalsound} informative for {gap}.
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Project Manager: And for the marketing guy?
  Marketing: Uh tha that was good but we should have more brainstorming like meetings, maybe.
  Industrial Designer: Yep {vocalsound}.
  Marketing:'Cause we just presenting one is presenting his stuff
  User Interface: Okay.
  Marketing: next one his stuff and then we try to combine afterwards, so it {disfmarker} um.
  Industrial Designer: Okay, okay.
  Project Manager: And new ideas about new products, maybe, wi which would be fashion and uh and yellow. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yellow. {vocalsound} I think you can think about a yellow T_V_ now after {disfmarker} {vocalsound} a fruit T_V_ or I dunno.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: It can be an interesting I don't know {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yes, just lemon.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, just a lemon T_V_ it'd be {vocalsound} yellow lemon.
  User Interface: Yeah, but y you know the traditional T_V_ it's um {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: It's flat, uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah yeah it's flat,
  Project Manager: Squared?
  User Interface: yeah the shape is very boring.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, that's right. It's really boring, yeah.
  User Interface: Could we come up with new T_V_ with {disfmarker} such as this kind of T_V_?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah. {vocalsound}
  User Interface: So you can {disfmarker} {vocalsound} you have base, triangle base so you the T_V_ you can {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Ah, the lemon T_V_ with the pineapple remote control.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah, that's {disfmarker} that would be really interesting, actually.
  User Interface: Yeah. Yeah. Because the T_V_ you {vocalsound} also {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Oh, that's interesting. You could f we could do a kind of fruit collection of electronics things. Electronic device.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {gap} Device devi
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah.
  Marketing: Yeah, but just don't trust too much the trends.
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Industrial Designer: The fruit? {vocalsound} Yeah.
  Project Manager: Maybe {disfmarker}
  Marketing:'Cause fruit and vegetables it won't last for ten years uh.
  Project Manager: Yeah, maybe la next year it will be insects.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, it's {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Maybe two years it's dead.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Industrial Designer: But I think it's good to follow the f flow and you know make it now and after, you know, if the people change their mind you change also the product.
  Marketing: Yeah.
  User Interface: Mm.
  Marketing: Yeah, but this is good because it's not a long long life product.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah.
  Marketing: T_V_ is more like fifteen years, maybe, so.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, yeah. That's a {disfmarker} yeah, yeah.
  Marketing: If you have a lemon lemon T_V_ for
  Industrial Designer: We can think about T_V_ with you know where you can change you know the aspects o like for the cell phones, you know.
  Marketing: fifteen years {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Customable T_V_.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, you customise it every ti so every ti if people change, you just change the appearance, and y y you can keep {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah, yeah.
  Project Manager: Ah such {disfmarker} yeah. You've already said mobile phones.
  User Interface: Okay.
  Marketing: Tha that would that would make it. Yeah.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, you can keep the global appearan
  Project Manager: Yeah, and following {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: The mood of persons, the fashions uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Mm.
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Project Manager: It's interesting, maybe we can create a a line of uh T_V_ with uh a a tr
  Industrial Designer: We int {vocalsound} {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Yeah, T_V_, yeah. A T_V_ for autumn and a T_V_ for winter, you know, so it's {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah. Yeah.
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: So what i and do w is it {vocalsound} {disfmarker} Okay.
  Project Manager: So I think the costs are within the budget. We're just at twelve fifty Euros.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, the pr {gap} at {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yep.
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Project Manager: So
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: do you think you can celebrate your creation?
  User Interface: And you can celebrate your leadership. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Oh, thanks a lot. {vocalsound} Thank you, mister David Jordan. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah but I think f {vocalsound} it's really a celebrating object. {vocalsound} So it's yellow and very {disfmarker} a very ha it's very happy, so.
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah.
  Marketing: Hmm.
  Industrial Designer: Uh it's it's a pr it's like {disfmarker} yeah.
  Marketing: Yeah. It's party party remote control.
  Project Manager: The thing now is to to sell it.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah, it's your job. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah,
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Sell it. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: right, go and sell it. Goo and good luck, so {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah. {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah. Okay and the twelve fifty {disfmarker} twelve uh twelve {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Uh-huh. Twenty five Euros.
  User Interface: Twenty five Euros, yeah.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} It should be fine.
  Marketing: Yeah, I think it's {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: It's maybe a little bit expensive. {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Twenty five Euros.
  Marketing: It's cheap, yeah. {vocalsound} No, I {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} No, it's not so expensive.
  Marketing: I'm not so happy about the fruit shape, you know.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Wh really?
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: It should be it should be fine, you know, actually. {vocalsound} S
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Okay.
  Project Manager: Maybe what you can do a test. Put it outside, and if bees come, {vocalsound} it's really fruit. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: I I think I like {vocalsound} the the colour a the colour are very good, so actually so {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} But don't put sugar in it, it's not working.
  User Interface: Okay. {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} No, the colours are uh {disfmarker} it's perfect, yeah.
  Industrial Designer: It's perfect, and {disfmarker}
  Marketing: True. Uh yeah, another thing is the logo is missing still.
  Industrial Designer: I p is th y {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah, but the colour, I think the colour is more {disfmarker} is most important,
  Industrial Designer: the the yellow ball thing that {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: because I I don't think you have ever seen something like that before for a remote control.
  Marketing: Still that was one of the requirements we had. It's {disfmarker} yeah but it {disfmarker} I don't think it's such a problem just putting the logo somewhere.
  Industrial Designer: Uh f like y we can we can put some uh double R_ {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yeah, but we decided to have something yellow and red, for the costs.
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Project Manager: So maybe we can just integrate it on th on one side, the double R_.
  Marketing: Mm.
  Industrial Designer: Okay yeah, yeah. That's actually good idea, so {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah.
  User Interface: Mm.
  Project Manager: So we have the logo, we have the colour, and we have the fashion in electronics,
  User Interface: So we have to give a {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: so we have the slogan too.
  User Interface: So we have give him {disfmarker} give it a cute name.
  Project Manager: Yeah
  Industrial Designer: {gap}
  Project Manager: th no, it's the it's the pineapple control {disfmarker} remote control.
  User Interface: Mush mushroom controller.
  Marketing: Cute na You cannot say mushroom because it's not the trend.
  Project Manager: It's a pineapple now, it has changed. It's a pineapple.
  Industrial Designer: It's not a mushroom. {vocalsound} It's a pineapple remote controls.
  Marketing: It's not the trend.
  Project Manager: Pineapple.
  User Interface: Pa Pine apple.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, pineapple remote remote control.
  Marketing: Yeah, but just flying saucer, or {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: With cherry on top.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Oh, that {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Okay.
  Marketing: I would say flying saucer.
  Industrial Designer: Oh unid uh unidentified remote control, so {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: It's more appropriate, somehow.
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Okay.
  Industrial Designer: That's that's pineapple remote control. I think it's fine.
  User Interface: Okay.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Will you buy one?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah. Yeah I will try {vocalsound} I'll try {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Okay.
  Marketing: Mm.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Try to. Okay uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Twenty five {vocalsound} Euro.
  Industrial Designer: {gap}. I can hel I will try versions so to see how easy easy to manage {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Okay. Yeah you told me you h you d you d you lost your control your T_V_
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah I always lose my {disfmarker} Yeah, so so i if it is a universal one I can use it with my T_V_, so it would be {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} so you need to buy one.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} One thing I like is the shape, because you know it's not like the uh the remote controls you can put in your pocket, on uh in your jacket.
  User Interface: Okay. {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Mm.
  Industrial Designer: {gap}
  User Interface: Traditional one? Yeah. So this one and this one. What do you choose?
  Project Manager: I prefer the laser remote control. {vocalsound} No.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I think I would choose this one because of the colour. It's
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} What do you choose? Okay.
  Industrial Designer: it's will enlight your house, your home and your T_V_, so.
  User Interface: Okay.
  Project Manager: Oh. Maybe next if we decide to do something we'd {disfmarker} can put light inside.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah. Yeah, yeah that would be uh an idea.
  Marketing: Yeah but that's going to be expensive, you know.
  Project Manager: Yeah.
  Marketing: We had some problems {vocalsound} going to twelve Euros and uh I dunno.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {gap}.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: I think it it would be interesting to {disfmarker} just to see if we can {disfmarker} if people will buy this one, and maybe add some features to it after yeah.
  Marketing: Yeah, afterwards, if
  User Interface: Yeah. Yeah.
  Marketing: if it's a new trend. Okay.
  Project Manager: So {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah that's that fine. So we can celebrate now. That's our new product.
  Project Manager: Champagne {gap}, mister Baba. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yes.
  Marketing: We should celebrate.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} It's it's fine. It's {disfmarker} I like it {vocalsound}. {vocalsound} Next time. {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: So buy one. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Well, I'll buy one here.
  User Interface: Yeah. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: So {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Mm.
  Project Manager: Okay, I will close this. Mm.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah. No?
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} So I think we have finished the designing and the evaluation of our remote control
  Industrial Designer: Okay. Okay.
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Project Manager: and we have a nearly final product.
  Marketing: Our final prototype which {disfmarker} yeah.
  Industrial Designer: Final prototype, yeah, ye yeah.
  Project Manager: Final prototype, right.
  User Interface: Prototype, yeah.
  Project Manager: So, thank you very much.
  User Interface: Okay.
  Industrial Designer: Okay. {vocalsound} Okay.
  User Interface: Okay.
  Project Manager: Very productive.
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Okay. Thanks.
  Industrial Designer: S so who is going to take the remote control?