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"in that quote i was talking about the amount of care per dollar, gorgon, not quality (which could lead to poorer quality overall, but that's not what i was arguing).  please, no more strawmen. \n  \nrationing is a basic problem of socialized anything.  supply is limited and for most, if not all products/services, supply and demand are not equal.  the free market adjusts by increasing/decreasing the price to the point that demand is reduced/increased to meet supply.  socialized systems do not have such a mechanism.  demand for health care services far outweighs supply, and as a result, someone has to decide who gets what care.  rationing. \n  \nnotice, very little of what i argue is about my \"personal conviction,\" i.e, my \"feelings\" about this.  it is about what can logically work, and what has actually happened.   \n  \nand, for the record, nearly 50% of the US health care system is already socialized (medicare, medicaid, military/government employee* health care plans).  those systems cost far, far more than politicians ever thought they would, so it's not like we don't already have evidence in our own back yards that i'm right about this. \n  \ntaks \n  \n* 47% was the last i saw, and i'm not sure if the government employees fall into this, though i would be surprised if they didn't. \n"
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