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"Try to understand what Prabhupada is telling us. \n  \n  \nSrila Prabhupada- \"You are already in the spiritual sky, but you are simply covered. Just like the sun is already there. You are also already there…So actually we are always in the spiritual world. But when you forget Krishna by the cloud of illusion that is material. Try to understand\". In a Srimad-Bhagavatam lecture given in London, on July 30, 1971  \n  \nSrila Prabhupada- \"Actually we are not fallen therefore, at any moment we can revive (Regain, re-establish, wake up from the dream, remember who we really are as a body eternally in a state of originality) our Krishna consciousness. As soon as we understand that (my svarupa body is always in Krsnaloka or Vaikuntha or even both), \"I have nothing to do with (the material world and its bodily vessels my sub-conscious fallen nitya-baddha condition is housed in). I am simply Krishna's servant. Eternal servant. That's all\". In a Srimad-Bhagavatam lecture given in London, on July 30, 1971  \n  \nSrila Prabhupada - \"You are liberated. You are liberated. Simply just a cloud has covered you. Drive away the cloud. There is no question that you were ever (conditioned as nitya-baddha in the material world)\".  \n(Lecture on Sri Caitanya-Caritamrita, Adi-lila 7.108--San Francisco, February 18, 1967) \n  \nSrila Prabhupada -\"You are ever-liberated (meaning in our original and eternal state, we are all nitya-siddha). The sky is always spiritual but is sometimes overcrowded with cloud (known as the mahat-tattva or material creation that is in one corner of the Spiritual Sky), this is Maya (The cloud is created by Maha-Vishnu and His Wife Maya-Devi, through her powerful s'akti, controls all the bodily vessels occupied by the visiting DREAMING baddha-jivas)\".  \n(Lecture on Sri Caitanya-Caritamrita, Adi-lila 7.108--San Francisco, February 18, 1967) \n  \nSrila Prabhupada - \"This is called Maya. Actually, you are not conditioned. You are thinking. Just like in the dream you are thinking that tiger is eating you. You were never eaten by tiger. There is no tiger. So we have to get out of this dream\". (Lecture on Sri Caitanya-Caritamrita, Adi-lila 7.108--San Francisco, February 18, 1967) \n  \nALL living entities were created as sat, chit, ananda in the form of eternal vigraha in the beginning (which paradoxically was beginningless).  \n  \nIn this way, the original residence of all living entities (marginal beings) is their original home Goloka-Vrndavana or Krsnaloka, which is the imperishable Kingdom of God. \n  \nSrila Prabhupada - We have also come down from Vaikuntha some millions and millions of years ago.\" - Lecture on Bhagavad-gita on August 6, 1973 \n  \nSrila Prabhupada: You are already in the spiritual sky, but you are simply covered. Just like the sun is already there. You are also already there…So actually we are always in the spiritual world. But when you forget Krishna by the cloud of illusion, then that is material. Try to understand”. In a Srimad-Bhagavatam lecture given in London, on July 30, 1971 \n  \nThe paradox here is no one never really leaves Goloka, they only imagine they do by falling out of sync with the 'eternal present' \n  \nThe resulting paradox is that while one is in the material world, they are actually in the material world because not only do they have no memory of their 'eternal svarupa' body, but also they have consciously separated themselves from the eternal present’ where their real eternal bodily self resides. \n  \nIt's almost as if the awareness of the living entities nitya siddha body is suspended within the eternal present because of consciously falling out of sync with the ETERNAL PRESENT’ of Krsnaloka where their 'permanent 'real' bodily self is serving Krsna. (at least it is this way to those who have fallen from the eternal present realm) \n  \nBut actually from the point of view of Goloka, everything is still going on in the service of the Lord in relationships with Krishna and His associates nothing is ever suspended there. \n  \nThe only thing that has changed is the ones awareness of 'eternal time' in relation to 'divided time' - hence it is not a division of consciousness, but rather a division of time. \n  \nActually, when one again becomes aware of their eternal nitya-siddha body and relationship with Krishna, it will be as if their baddha-jiva dreams state never existed. On return to the 'eternal present’, it will be as if they never left because nothing has changed in Goloka. \n  \n1. The 'eternal present' in the imperishable Vaikuntha and Krsnaloka Planets, can never be compared to the mahat-tattva dreams of Maha-Vishnu where the time span of a trillion mahat-tattva material universes, that seem an almost eternity in material time, would only appear no more than a mere moment of time in the eternal Kingdom of God (Vaikuntha) \n  \n2. And the divided time of 'past, present and future' of the perishable mahat-tattva, that has a further distortions of time and space in the higher, middle and lower material planetary systems, were there is even more dimensions of material time and space within the mahat-tattva, different again from our experience and perception of time on our middle earth planet. \n  \nSo we should all try to understand our original position that is our eternal identity in Krsnaloka', as Prabhupada would say’. \n  \nActually there is no birth of the jivas. They are all eternal, like Krishna Himself. Many things in the shastra is said to convince the jivas conditioned in the material world, that their real home is Krsnaloka. There are so many things that Vedic sastra has told us, whereas in reality, in Goloka Vrndavana dhama (Krsnaloka), due to the 'eternal presents', where there is no past or future, these things will be seen in another way.  \n  \nWhat is that other way that many say is conceivable to understand?  \n  \nThe simple answer is, on that level or ‘seeing things in an other way’, is the material creation, of trillion upon trillions of years and life times, will appear no-more than a moment of dreaming in Krsnaloka. \n  \nSrila Prabhupada - “One should be humble and know that he is subordinate to the Supreme Lord. Due to rebellion against the Supreme Lord, one becomes subordinate to material nature. One must know and be convinced of this truth.” Bhagavad-gita, 13.12, purport.  \n  \nSrila Prabhupada - “Actually, the living entity is originally the spiritual part and parcel of the Supreme Lord, but due to his rebellious nature, he is conditioned within material nature. It really does not matter how these living entities or superior entities of the Supreme Lord have come into contact with material nature. The Supreme Personality of Godhead knows, however, how and why this actually took place.” Bhagavad-gita, 13.20, purport \n  \nSrila Prabhupada - “It is the jivas who are the attendants in His Sports. They become attached to matter, having deviated from their own essential nature as the result of their desire for enjoyment. But when again the soul . . . gains true wisdom of the transcendental region of God . . . he begins to get back his pure essential nature” . . . - Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Prabhupada, Sri Caitanya's Teachings, p. 323. \nSrila Prabhupada - “In his original state, there is no doubt of enjoyment; therefore, that is his real state.” Bhagavad-gita, 13.21, purport.  \n  \nSrila Prabhupada -“Formerly we were with Krsna in His Lila” Letter from Srila Prabhupada in 1972 to devotee in Australia \n  \nSrila Prabhupada is saying that our original and perpetual state of being an eternal nitya siddha bodily servant of Krishna means one never falls down, that is, their nitya siddha body never leaves Goloka. However, he also tells us that the memory of being nitya-siddha can be covered over or forgotten by the choice to imagine your own existence without Krishna. This is just like dreaming in our present material body where we dream, or think we are King of a world, but actually, our material body has not moved \n  \nIn this way Srila Prabhupada is saying that our nitya siddha or svarupa body can be covered over only and the memory of being nitya-siddha forgotten, like one forgets their material body while dreaming.  \n  \nThe highest and natural expression of the marginal living entity is realizing their full potential as their perpetual nitya-siddha-svarupa devotional body as already explained.  \n  \nNitya siddha bodily form, which ALL jiva tattvas already are perpetually, eternally EXISTS  \n  \nOur nitya siddha body is always established in Goloka EVEN is we are dreaming in the mahat-tattva. The nitya siddha body therefore already exists and it is again realized by those who have fallen to the material world, when they again become aware of their natural pure state of REALITY, which means remembering they already are eternally liberated in Goloka serving God or Krishna. \n  \nNitya baddha state is when we are in our unnatural impure DREAM state of TRANSITORY REALITY eternally conditioned in the mahat tattva serving ones selfish interests unaware of their PERMANENTLY REAL nitya siddha authentic self in Goloka. \n  \nThe original and eternal position of all living individuals, known as the marginal living entities is their perpetual rasa (devotional mood) nitya-siddha-svarupa body that is eternally serving Krishna in the ‘eternal present’ where there is no past or future as previously explained.  \n  \nThis means there is also no decay, impermanence birth, disease, old age, death and forgetfulness in the perpetual REALITY Kingdom of God known as Goloka-Vrndavana and the Vaikuntha planets. \n  \nOur nitya siddha body is always established in Goloka EVEN if we are dreaming in the mahat-tattva. The nitya siddha body therefore already exists and is again realized by those who have fallen to the material world when they again become aware of their natural pure state of REALITY, which means remembering they already are eternally liberated in Goloka serving God or Krishna as there already perpetual body. \n  \nIt is those nonsense Guru's and their followers who advocate that we can never leave Goloka and take shelter in the material world. \n  \nIt is them who claim the inhabitants of Goloka are 'robot' servants of Krsna who just serve without the ability or free will to choose if they want to remain 'aware' of their Svarupa body, that is always fixed perpetually serving Krsna. This is always the case, even if they do choose to sub-consciously and selfishly enter the mahat tattva.  \n  \nThose who propagate the 'Borg' or assimilated mentality are actually impersonalists because they deny their own free will and individuality to become Krsna or their guru's mindless robot \n  \nOur nitya siddha bodily form is ALWAYS established in Goloka EVEN if we are dreaming in the mahat-tattva. The nitya siddha body therefore already exists and is again realized by those who have fallen to the material world when they again become aware of their natural pure state of REALITY, which means remembering they already are eternally liberated in Goloka serving God or Krishna as there already perpetual body. \n  \nJiv JAGO Wake-up sleeping souls and think for your self with realized knowledge instead of being a parrot devotee. \n  \nSrila Prabhupada is saying that our original and perpetual state of being, which is an eternal nitya siddha bodily servant of Krishna, means one never falls down, that is, their nitya siddha body never leaves Goloka.  \n  \nHowever, he also tells us that the memory of being nitya-siddha can be covered over or forgotten (nitya baddha) by the choice to imagine your own existence without Krishna. \n"
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