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"<blockquote class=\"uncited\"><div><p><a href=\"https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/1352-new-kickstarter-campaign-for-timemore-sculptor/87\" class=\"PostMention\" data-id=\"40382\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">DavecUK</a> As am I, although I guess it abrogates all risk and responsibility for:</p>\n\n<p>quality<br>\nnon delivery<br>\never lengthening timescales<br>\nconsumer protection<br>\nother consumer rights e.g. warranty, fitness for purpose etc..<br>\nthe final specification of product that actually gets delivered<br>\nno requirement to raise capital or take loans (effectively borrowing from the consumer. I won’t say customers, because on Kickstarter you are not actually buying anything.</p></div></blockquote>\n\n<p>All of that, but Kickstarter is also a marketing methodology all on it’s own. By that I mean it may be done that way explicitly to get the kind of discussion that’s been happening, for months, prior to actual delivery. In theory, Kickstarter is about <em>funding</em>, but some Kickstarts, from companies that are easily able to afford development costs, deonstrate it’s not the only viable motivation.</p> \n\n<p>As for me, it would take something TRULY exceptional to get me to go Kickstart (or similar platforms). I doubt there s anything in coffee equipment that would do it, and certainly not at the several hundred £/$ price level. Sub-£50? Maybe. And no, in case anyone thinks I mean something like this at  that price. I mean something worth, arguably, something in the £50-£100 bracket, at £50.</p> \n\n<p>Quite a few factors would go into me buying anything at the £500-ish level, and reputation of the supplier, support and warrany are definitely high up the list. So is a series of good or exceptional reviews from trustworthy sources. Price, and especially saving a modest percentage, doesn’t feature very high up. Personally, for something like this, if it’s a choice of waiting for release, reviews, UK supply etc, and paying full price for it, I’d do that over Kickstarter every time.</p> \n\n<p>As for grinders, I guess I haven’t gone as far down the rabbithole as some, but the Niche is good enough for me. Unless it breaks, I doubt I’ll ever bother changing it. I get ccffee, be it espresso or V60/Clever, that I enjoy, and that’s good enough. Could I get “better” with a better grinder? Probably. But then, better espresso machine too? Also probably. Will I bother? Not a prayer. I’ve got a (by espresso standards) pretty modest, but not ultra budget, setup and it gives me results I enjoy drinking. Job done. 😀</p>"
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