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"During a recent interview with Ultimate Classic Rock, Journey drummer Deen Castronovo stated that Phil Collins' best band era was with Brand X rather than Genesis. Phil Collins joined Genesis as their drummer back in 1970 and then became the face of the band after their original lead singer Peter Gabriel left to embark on"
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