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"I agree that this should not be so, in which case what are you broadcasting to me here? You yourself just wrote that there are geniuses who do this. Ill quote it for you  \n \n\n\n\n\n\t \n \n\n\n\tIn my understanding, using a weapon OUTSIDE the horde night is not using a weapon. This is self-indulgence and is not worth spending skill points. Especially when these skills do nothing.\n \n\n\n\n\n\tSame\n \n\n\n\n\n\tOf course, I did not do this, but I have enough reason to understand that this is impossible. Perhaps at the easiest difficulty it is possible if you play very well and if you put everything in sustain and clubs / sledgehammers, but I'm not sure\n \n\n\n\n\n\t \n \n\n\n\tFirst, give me a list of styles so that we can speak same language. You asked this question in the context of a discussion about strenght of melee weapons and I answered in context. Don't try to pretend you didn't mean melee weapons. It looks very stupid\n \n\n\n\n\n\t \n \n\n\n\tThat's right, now this is situation with grenade launcher. I'm asking for balance, you finally start to understand, albeit with difficulty\n \n\n\n\n\n\t \n \n\n\n\tI write about objectively dull and boring perks that do not give anything but small % damage or unnecessary weather protection (which there are no weather penalties), microscopic reduction in hunger (which there are no hunger penalties), a small chance to open a locked chest (which are very few in the game), dig up the treasure a little faster (tasks for which you stop receiving after 2-3 hours of play), two perks that improve unnecessary stealth mode perk on an electric baton, which is generally incomprehensible for what in the game and some others...\n \n\n\n\t \n \n\n\n\t \n \n\n\n\tin response, ignoring everything, you write to me something about my skill level and something about the guys who could with a sledgehammer. And you don't try to hurt me, well, well\n \n\n\n\t \n \n\n\n\tCan you tell us how you create ammo or build steel base without mining? Oh, you must be jumping on wood poles with a sledgehammer dying to survive 😁\n "
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