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"@Pasturemaster - I don’t have anything against the design - I don’t think anyone here has. What Most of us are saying is thet it’s not proven, nor demonstrated. As pointed out by @newdent , if the issue is the PCB, then let’s wait and see a few videos of the machine working on a daily workflow, steaming milk, making a couple of coffees. Hopefully with some measurements. After all,  that’s all we, the prospective buyers can base their decisions on. Before anyone paid their £350 + £10 delivery for the Niche Zero, the grinder was taken apart, demonstrated. There was a rather in depth review, which included a lot of writing and lots of videos. There were some pototypes. For this one, thus far, it’s all very scarce. There’s literally nothing out there. With regards to pricing, who is there to say the price will be USD 850 for the subsequent units? You might be getting a bargain. You might be getting a door stopper. At this point in time, there’s not enough information out there which allows me to make a decision. And yes, on paper this is a great machine. If there were more info out there, I’d be on that buyers list, believe me.\n \n\n\n\tInitially I wanted a Londinium Vectis, but I waited and waited (years) and eventually moved on with my life. Good job I did, because it’s still pretty much on paper still. IMO, if his machine succeeds - and I hope it does, the so called Vectis might as well never see the light of day and be confined to the drawing stages forever, as, at least on paper and with the little we know on both camps, the Argos wins hands down. \n \n\n\n\t \n \n"
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