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"Responding to the insomnia concern.\n \n\n\n\tI didn’t realise or I’d forgotten until reading this that my insomnia was possibly a aide effect of having used cymbalta in the past. The start of it was after I stopped using cymbalta, so it’s possible. I suffered terribly from it until just recently, for more than a few years, and the fatigue from it caused other endocrine issues like low thyroid, burnout and food cravings leading to weight gain. What changed for me was the following, all starting in June this year:\n \n\n\n\t1. I started taking He Shou Wu, on advice of a friend. I’ve since learned this is a very popular tonic for general fatigue. Within hours of first taking it I felt a level of rest and support deep inside that I hadn’t felt for probably two decades. \n \n\n\n\t2. I started taking sleep herbs after watching the online documentary series “Remedy - Ancient Medicine for Modern Illness”. It also supported the He Shou Wu I’d started a couple weeks before. The first couple weeks the herbs made me feel sleepy when I took them, and after that effect lessened I though maybe I’d built a resistance to them, but what I’ve found is that they help me stay asleep and fall back asleep if I wake up for some reason. I definitely notice a difference when I forget to take them. \n \n\n\n\t3. I started taking a daytime serenity herb mix. During the day I feel calmer, more mellow, less stressed. \n \n\n\n\t4. I got an Apple Watch and the pillow app and started tracking how much time I’m actually asleep versus just in bed. I’m working on getting my asleep average up to 7hrs/night. Right now it’s at 6hrs48mins. I feel freaking amazing - and weigh 15lbs less - compared to 4 months ago before I started all of this. It boggles my mind to think back to how little sleep I was getting before (&lt;&lt;5grs/night) and still somehow functioning feeling like I was perpetually being tortured. With a job and three kids under 10. \n \n\n\n\t \n \n\n\n\tI should add that I also take 5HTP (I know - generally not recommended by SAD) and GABA 2-3X/day (I always take morning and evening but sometimes forget in the middle of the day). They also helped my falling sleep improve when I started them about a year ago (which was years after I stopped ADs).\n \n\n\n\t \n "
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