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"Here is a recap of what happened in the search forums today, through the eyes of the Search Engine Roundtable and other search forums on the web.Search Engine Roundtable Stories:\n\n\t\tTough SEO: SEO For Sites You Don't Manage &amp; Leftover SEO \n\t\tIf you're about to take on a prospective SEO client and they start taking the initiative on their search engine optimization (in ways you hadn't even thought of), should you proceed with the client -- especially if you're going to disagree with them (since their initial implementation was probably a measure to cut costs and keep their spend down?) Probably not. But before you lose the client, make sure to educate them. Show them why\n\t\tDanny Sullivan Gives Microsoft The Hard Truth\n\t\tDanny Sullivan writes about the problems about Microsoft search at Search Engine Land, and he explains what they need to do in order to get it together. Some reasons are that Microsoft's key executives don't care about search. For example, in Danny's experience doing conferences, Microsoft has yet to send a key player such as Bill Gates or Steve Ballmer run the keynote conversation. They simply don't think it's worth it. (On the other hand,\n\t\tGoogle AdSense Now Pushing Fat Ads:  Is this Offensive?\n\n\t\tIf you're fat and get offended easily, don't use any service that uses Google AdSense. That's what WebmasterWorld members are spotting -- ads targeting the \"fat\" people of America. Apparently there's a conception that the holidays may have gotten people overweight. Or perhaps this is a way to ring in your New Year's Resolutions. But that isn't satisfying publishers who are using Google AdSense. On top of other offensive Google AdSense ads, this isn't faring\n\t\tGoogle Recommends Product Ideas for Your Google Mobile Suggestions\n\t\tWant Google to implement a new feature for Google Mobile? You no longer need to venture to Google Groups to make the request. Simply hop on over to http://productideas.appspot.com/ and submit your product ideas. So far, according to the stats, \"805 people have submitted 313 ideas and cast 9,772 votes.\" These include: * \"An native iPhone App of Google Reader (include a mini browser), more fast and no problem of reloading page after open a\n\t\tSearch For Child Day Care Site &amp; Google Suggests Porn Site\n\t\tConduct a search for the child day care site KindyList and you might be presented with a \"Did You Mean?\" suggestion from Google. The issue is that Google is suggesting you search for Candylist instead, which is far from a child friendly site, it is a pornography site. Here is a screen shot of me searching for KindList: Notice the Did You Mean? at the top. When you click on Candylist, you get this search\n\t\tGoogle Webmaster Helps Tries Live Lively Event, Before Lively Shuts Down\n\n\t\tGoogler, JohnMu, suggested in a Google Webmaster Help thread that they give Google's Lively, Google's failed attempt at a SecondLife virtual world, a shot before it closes down. Yesterday, John posted a thread announcing an \"Informal End Of Year live-chat over at Lively.\" I missed it, and so did most people. In fact, I don't think it actually worked. Looking over the thread, it seems like the event really never happened. I did see a\n\t\tGoogle AdWords Requiring Some Advertisers to Login Twice\n\t\tA WebmasterWorld thread reports that advertisers are having to login twice to the Google AdWords console to gain access. I have confirmed the issue on my Mac running Firefox. In short, you go to adwords.google.com and type in your username and password. Then you click login and it takes you back to the login screen. You then enter in the information in again and it let's you in. Second time a charm? Nah. It seems\n\t\tGoogle Confirms PageRank Update (New Years 2009)\n\t\tOver Christmas and the holidays, we reported early signs of a Toolbar PageRank Update. Those reports have now been confirmed by Google's Matt Cutts via Twitter. Matt said about 6 hours ago: Yes, Google updated our toolbar PageRank values today. Consider this the confirmation. You can then see other Googler's like JohnMu, \"liking this\" on Matt's FriendFeed page. Of course, we have a whole new slew of PageRank update threads and posts now. They include:\n\t\t\n\nOther Great Search Forum Threads:\n\n\tPredictions for 2009, Search Engine Watch Forums\n\tcan't verify my freewebs website because i use a domain name  from godaddy????, Google Webmaster Help\n\tAdWords Sandbox  Getting An internal error has occurred. Please retry your request, Google Groups\n\tCan Google penalise me twice for the same offence?, Google Webmaster Help\n\tGooglebot generating new video thumbnail, rather than using the one specified in our Google video sitemap, Google Webmaster Help\n\tNew looking ads, DigitalPoint Forums\n\n"^^<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string>
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