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"Chris - ModeratorFounder of DMOZ\nJim Boykin - We Build PagesThe presentation isnt flashy and until the other day there wasnt even a presentation *some chuckles*The Questions:What link building methods have changed?\n\t- Link Trades - c'mon this is Pubcon\n\t- Submitting to 100's of directories\n\t- 3 way linking\n\t- Buying PR8 and 9 - they are all block\n\t- Link Brokers - Ill leave that to you \n\t- Linking sites together - Google knows its all you\n\t- Paid blog reviews - we all know how Matt feels about this\tWhat always has worked:\tWrite the most amazing content, or have the most incredible pictures.... moved the screen.Day 1Directories - a few old good ones and industry relatedDay 2Talk on some blogs - maybe you will get someDay 3..was too fast...Day 4-20Write great linkbait articles, create free tools and widgets and moreshort coming of LinkBait\n\t- hard to get links to pages you are targeting\n\t- hard to get links using phrases you're targeting\n \nDay 21 - 31\nAnalyze your competitor's links using free tools, WBP's tools or by hand (yahoo)Way to checklinkdomain: comp1.com\nlinkdomain: comp2.com\nlinkdomain: comp3.com \n- linkdomain: yourdomain.comDay 32 to 1000Google/Yahoo searches to find related web pagesContact the owner of the page and request a link via email/phoneIf you contact them via email, prove you are humanThen tell them why they should link to your site and possibly rec'd how they shouldWhat will be the value of a link be?\n\t- How old is the site?\n\t- How many and what kind of backlinks?\n\t- How trusted is the site? How many .edu/.gov's does it have\n\t- How interlinked to the main site is the page that the link is coming from?\n\t- Do other sites link to the page you are getting a link on?\n\t- Who else does that page link to?\n\t- will the link be in the body\n\t- will the link be part of content\n\t- What do you have to do to get it? do you have to build content?Who to link out to?\n\t- .edu, .gov's and other sites that dont rank above youGreg Hartnett - CEO - Best of the WebLink Building via DirectoriesQ: Isnt a directory just a paid link?\nA: No way- Pay for placement\n\t- Successful transcation results in a link\n- Directory Submission\n\t- Successful transcation results in a reviewQ: How can I tell a good from a bad directory?\nA: Common sense\n\t- Good\n\t\t- have a history\n\t\t- contain great resources\n\t\t- have populated categories\n\t\t- are designed for the user\n\t\t- add lots of sites on their own - not paid submits\n\t\t- Is it a lobor of love? Does it feel good to you?Q: What kind of traffic can I expect?\nA: Have you heard of the Digg effect?\n\t- minimal volume\n\t- targeted\n\t- convertingQ: Can I list my site multiple times?\nA: Yes\n\t- One site one listing in some cases\n\t- some allow deep links - if it makes sense then why not?\n\t- Relevant content for the category\n\t- CNN is listed 745 times in DMOZQ: Is the Yahoo Directory worth it?\nA: yes\n\t- Even at the priceQ: Is the ODP corrupt?\nA: No\n\t- not as a company\n\t- the few dont represent the overall value of the project (bribes, anti-competitive, and so on)\nQ: Which directories are considered most trustworth?\nA: Yahoo, DMOZ, BOTW, Business.com\nQ: How can I get into DMOZ?\nA: prayer?\n\t- read the guidelines\n\t- find the most relevant category\n\t- properly title and describe your listing (should be title of your site)\n\t- submit and move on or...\n\t- become an editorQ: How can I ensure my site gest listed if I go and pay for one of these review fees?\nA: You cant\n\t\nQ: Where can I submit my Blog?\nA: Yahoo and Dmoz, BOTW has blog directory, Search Engine Journal \"20 places to submt your blog\", Top Rank Blog \"Top places to submit your RSS\"Rae Hoffman - SugarraeDelegating Link DevelopmentI talk fast, it has alot of wording - it will be available on the site and then appologizes *Thanks Rae*\nOutsourcing Link development takes on many forms\n\t- has a long listThe problem with outsourcing is that a good firm can do good but a bad firm can do ALOT of bad.  If you dont know anyone, take a look at the conference list of vendors and see who keeps showing up as they must be making people happy and money.Check a outsourcing company's own links - Are they marketing theirselves or just all talk?You are who you hire.\nA list of potential questions: *she goes over it quickly*\nRae is not a fan of outsourcing - and prefers to hire inhouse.Providing that you hire the right people and monitor their progress.A list of potential questions for finding a future link developer *again, goes over quickly*You will need to create training documents if you bring them in house. Another list that she goes over quickly *Rae talks faster then I can type*The best thing you can do is train them to be marketers, think for themselves and get traffic and links and not just send emails.Factors for going inhouse or outsourcing - another quick list\nRodger Montii - martinibusterLikes Rae's thoughts on Outsourcing.When having a team he has them bcc him on each email they send out. A team in India and the team in the US both do this.Isnt a fan of giving control to a group you dont know that well.Advertising/Link Buys\n\t- banners as long as its a linkNewsletters\n\t- some get emailed and many are archived and live on the site. You pay for the email but keep the linkPaid Links - a huge fan. How else are you going to get the anchor text you need. When you just ask your success rate goes down. Blogs - go to a directory of blogs and start there. Look for a blog with a Google adsense unit about 1/2 way down the site - it shows they want to monitize the site. Contact them and see if they are open to advertising.  You can get run of site links pretty cheaply.\nWhat you should look for when buying a link:\n\t- relevance\n\t- no mention of Pagerank - site could be above the radar\n\t- No ads for non-relevant sites\n\t- year long purchase. 200$ looks better then saying $15 a month\nSearch Queries\n\t\"advertise with us keyword -cpm\n\tSearch: \"rate card\" -cpm advertisint\"\n\tallintitle:\"sponsors\" -cpm site:.org keyword (this is done on Yahoo.com)\nBuy websites\n\t- inactive sites\n\t- search \"temporarily down for maintenance\"\n\t- Search allintitle: \"site is offline\"\n\t- under-performing websites\n\t- You can do a copyright 2004 or something similar to find sites that havent been updatedThings to look for:\n\t- archived links\n\t- ideal if dedicated to a niche\n\t- search: \"site of the monht\" + keyword\n\t- Site of the day and week, too\nSponsorships\n\t- industry associations\n\t- charity groups\n\t- concentrate on .org\n\t\t- search: keyword sponsors site:.org\n\t- research competitor backlins in yahoo: linkdomain:example.com site:.org\n\t- .edu job fairs\nYouTube\n\t- Videos can have links\n\t- if it gains popularity it can get some traffic and pass it along to you\n\t- Put URL first to help get click throughsSoftware\n\t- b2bsoftware section on BOTW\nCharity Site Design\n\t- from time to time he does it. They are however quite demanding. Might be some work but you can get some links.Some moderator lead questions that gets Rae going and Greg talking. Both jump around and talk to fast - you have to be here :)Conversation moves to what is changed from 1999-2002 and now? Greg talks about links exchanges and having your sites all link to eachother and makes reference to Jim's slides and presentation.Martinibuster says that buying trust is part of it now. Contributed by Dave R."^^<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string>
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