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What does it take to get deported? Assault, threats, disorderly conduct not enough, maybe shooting at deputies will be - UPDATE Suspect in custody | Ryn Gargulinski: Rynski Life
by Ryn Gargulinski | Blogski Archives, crime, danger, death, gross stuff, immigrants, life, police, fire, law, politics, stupidity | 14 comments
We’ve already seen America is unable, or unwilling, to take much action to remove illegal aliens from the country.
Thus it should be no surprise that those born elsewhere who obtain permanent legal alien status are even more difficult to remove, even if they were convicted of numerous crimes, some of them pretty violent.
Will shooting at sheriff deputies be enough?
Jose Manuel Gonzalez-Sandoval, 38, is testing this premise by pulling out a handgun and opening fire at a couple of Pinal County sheriff deputies Aug. 16, according to a news release from the department.
This Mexico-born man with permanent legal alien status is on a roll, a lengthy and violent criminal roll that includes assaults, disorderly conduct, threats and intimidation, damaging property and unlawful flight from law enforcement.
Don’t forget to add his numerous traffic violations, which include excessive speed of more than 20 mph over the limit, perhaps while unlawfully fleeing from law enforcement. His colorful record includes more than 15 entries on the Arizona Supreme Court website.
Because of his less-than-stellar behavior in the United States, ICE attempted to revoke Sandoval’s residency status and placed him in removal proceedings* in March.
No go, said an immigration judge, who ruled in favor of Sandoval and canceled the removal proceedings.
This made it easy for Sandoval to show up at his former house in Arizona City on Monday, where his wife and kid still lived, even though his wife has an order of protection against him.
The kid called 911 as Jose and another man tried to get into the house. Jose had already fled by the time deputies arrived.
Two deputies found him a short while later and, when they confronted him, Jose pulled out a handgun and started shooting.
The deputies fired back. No one was injured but Jose remains on the loose. The release describes him as “a Hispanic male, 5’7” tall, 140 pounds, and last wearing a checkered button-up shirt, jeans and a white baseball hat.
“Jose is to be considered armed, dangerous and desperate.”
Very nice. We definitely see why the judge let him hang around.
We do hope Jose’s latest infraction is enough to send him over the (border’s) edge, so to speak.
We have enough violent criminals of our own, many who were born here. We don’t really need any extras – even if they somehow obtained permanent legal alien status.
Such status should be viewed as a privilege, not a right. As with any privilege, it should be taken away if people abuse it, especially with a litany of violent criminal acts. Especially if they shoot at sheriff deputies – or anyone else for that matter.
* NOTE: The new PC term for “deportation” is “removal proceedings.” Since that term is boring, I still opted for “deported” in the headline.
UPDATE from Pinal County Sheriff’s Office:
Jose Sandoval in custody
On Aug. 21, an acquaintance of Jose Sandoval brought him into the Eloy Police Department and turned him in. Detectives from the Pinal County Sheriff’s Office are headed to the Eloy Police Department to pick him up. Jose will be charged initially with two counts of Aggravated Assault on a Police Officer and one count of Aggravated Assault. Those charges will be reviewed by the Pinal County Attorney’s Office following the completion of the investigation and possibly elevated to attempted murder.
Sheriff Babeu stated, “I am very thankful not only to all of the law enforcement agencies that assisted us in finding this violent man, but also for the citizens who provided us with leads to follow up on. Hopefully this time after justice has been served, the immigration judge will change his mind and agree with us and Immigrations Customs Enforcement that Jose Sandoval should be deported.”
Since updating the post erases poll results, I’ve removed the poll and recorded its results below. The poll ran from 8/18 through 8/24.
Should permanent legal alien status ever be revoked?
4 percent: No – if someone bothered to go about getting it, he should stay
84 percent: Yes – if someone engages in consistent criminal behavior
1 percent: Maybe – but only for something big, like murder
7 percent: I don’t know. I’m too busy wondering why ‘deportation’ is no longer PC
2 percent: Other – please explain in comment section of post
What do you think?
Should Jose be allowed to stick around some more?
What SHOULD merit deportation, if anything?
JoeS on 08/18/2010 at 8:27 am
Just another protected class…..
We have enough criminal idiots as it is,  no need to import more.
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Rynski on 08/18/2010 at 9:14 am
hahahha! we def. have MORE THAN ENOUGH criminal idiots. i have even dated a few (hahahah)
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Rynski on 08/18/2010 at 9:12 am
…just updated post with photo of jose, which caused the poll to erase any responses thus far. please vote again if you feel so inclined.
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tiponeill on 08/18/2010 at 9:17 am
Sigh –  you people can make anything about “illegals” can’t you ?
Seems to me the judge that let him roam free isn’t the “immigration judge’ , but the judge that didn’t put him in prison.
But keep it up – want to tell us about Willie Horton next ?
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andrew farley on 08/18/2010 at 10:28 am
And what did “You People” make up about this, Mr Target Boycotter tiponeil? Have you tried Boycotting the Country to the South of us for anything against Human Rights instead of a shopping center, Mr Target Boycotter? turn the page. “Bunker sense” itc
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tiponeill on 08/18/2010 at 10:54 am
Have you tried Boycotting the Country to the South of us for anything against Human Rights
That wouldn’t make much sense –  in the “Country to the South of us” people have more human rights than here in Arizona.
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andrew farley on 08/18/2010 at 11:30 am
Good, then argue with yourself then.
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leftfield on 08/18/2010 at 7:55 pm
Get up on the wrong side of the bed, Andrew?  Don’t worry, Target will still be there.  It’s Ok if some of us decide to boycott them.  “You people” get to boycott Mexico and whatever else you want,  “we people” get to boycott Target and Arizona.
No Bueno on 08/18/2010 at 9:11 pm
Great! Then let them get their asses back to that “country to the south” if they have so many rights,  since that’s where they belong! BTW…I bought a flat screen tv today from Target!!
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Jim Kelley on 08/19/2010 at 2:37 pm
And they wan to to get into the US so bad why???? Because we treat them so bad? Because we are so racist?  I think I have finally figured Tip out. He is a conservative plant inside the national socialists councils to make them look dumb.
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jdog on 08/18/2010 at 9:57 am
Deport hell no. More like death penalty, citizen or not. We need to get tougher on crimals, especial ones that have no regards for other peoples life or the law..Eventually this guy will kill some incent people..
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Bob on 08/18/2010 at 12:17 pm
Subject: Undocumented immigrant criminals released by ICE back into our communities while waiting to be deported?
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 01:21:43 +0000
.ExternalClass .ecxhmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass body.ecxhmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;} Dear Governor Brewer and Attorney General Goddard,
Please reference the tragic story about
“A Virginia nun was killed in a head-on collision Sunday August 1st, the victim of an alleged drunk driver, who had been convicted of drunk driving twice before, and who is reportedly in the United States illegally.”
Apparently Bolivian-born Carlos Martinelly Montano has an extensive criminal record and has been awaiting a deportation hearing for nearly two years. However, after both of his previous arrests—including one for a DUI in 2008—the suspect was turned over to ICE, who apparently released him on his own recognizance and ordered to stand trial in front of an immigration judge. As of the most recent incident, no deportation hearing had been scheduled.
In Arizona, is it known, the number of undocumented immigrants convicted of crimes in the State of Arizona, who are released to ICE for deportation, then are released by ICE back into our communities while waiting to be deported?  Where are those people now?
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Oakland on 08/18/2010 at 2:51 pm
Its amazing how bad they can screw up a system they made up in the first place. That goes for the rest of the government for that matter.
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leftfield on 08/18/2010 at 7:50 pm
Because of his less-than-stellar behavior in the United States, ICE attempted to revoke Sandoval’s residency status and placed him in removal proceedings* in March.
No go, said an immigration judge, who ruled in favor of Sandoval and canceled the removal proceedings.
It might be both interesting and informative, though not inflammatory, to know why the judge ruled the way he did.  What are the relevant laws?  Even the worst of us have protections under the law.  That’s how the rest of us enjoy equal protection and the right to due process.  Did ICE bungle their case?  That would seem to me to be more likely than the implication that the judge just prefers to keep all violent characters with legal alien status in this country because he or she is one of them “bleeding-heart, latte-drinkers”.