Well erm the er  th th th the first and most  horrific incidence was I think  in the May, no no no it wasn't May, it was  when we went down to s to Cats in London  which was  at the end of  eighty nine  beginning of  ninety  and I went to, I went to the  the doctor in June of nineteen ninety and  odd things were sort of going through nineteen ninety, but it wasn't until nineteen ninety one  and I was off ill and  it all went