But thanks very much indeed, Patricia from Chipping Norton, and also thanks to my guests; the Reverend Martin Flatman, the vicar at Saints Mary and John Church in the Cowley Road; to Pauline Dungate  well, I don't know how to describe you except as a wonderful woman; Reverend David Brian, the curate at Christ Church in Abingdon; Sister Jenny, who runs The Porch, a drop in centre for the homeless in the Cowley Road area; and Lesley Dewhurst from the support group Elmore.