text: And then they claim he did nothing wrong, as if the mass execution of thousands of Kurds using chemical weapons, interogations before trails where 50 children died, hangings on pregant women, and torture chambers where fingernails are pulled off, drills sent through shin bones and the like, they claim he did nothing wrong as if these things are permissable, and then they get upset when Cheney says it'd do em good, a dunk in the water.  What is their real stance on torture, or do they just ignore the facts