Yes I've seen that first hand, I have two beautiful nieces strung out on that sludge and that is heart wrenching. So I do thank you for your synopsis. I think we all know that alcohol and drugs "themselves" are not diseases but the effects of long term use causes diseases. So thank you for helping me word that correctly so I don't have to argue with another commenter about car wrecks being diseases. :)) Now that we have that settled, good night. .