NBT:  au contraire....I have met with about ten different individuals from this site...some with whom I share much agreement, some with whom I disagree on most every issue. I invite persons to join me in civil conversation regarding issues.  It's amazing how much more civil people are "face-to-face" instead of hiding behind "screen names."  I have extended my invitation to Agirl and my comment above was just a little humor.  May I again extend my invitation to her....Hey, Agirl, how about a cup of coffee and a visit.  I also extend the same invitation to you.  I'm in the phone book...Gary Crum  Junction City.  Give me a call.  I'd guess we would have a lively discussion.  BTW: my invitation is an "open" invitation to anyone who might be interested.  I really enjoy discussing issues with folks.  I'm retired, I've got the time, I'm willing to drive into Eugene and I've got just enough money for a cup of coffee or even, lunch. (that's my lunch, not yours) ....give me that call.  Gary Crum