text: The other reason your argument is silly has to do with your comments about "experience."  The mean old bishops and saints in their converted or virginal/celibate purity (or impurity), dont have the "experience" that you and other lay people do.  Well have you experienced sexual abuse as a minor? How do you know its bad if you haven't? What about nuclear war? What about TrumpCare? Have you experienced it? How can you say its bad?!?  Oh wait, there's more...your argument is further silly because if we put all dissenters in a room, you couldn't tell us what is enough expierence...Is the loyal, chaste husband or 50 yrs experienced enough, or does he have to be a adulterer first? with how many partners? How many partners does the sexually active gay man have to have before he's experienced? If he repents of his sins after 20 yrs, and disagrees with you, is it because he wasn't "experienced" enough?  People like you, think such souls dont exist, but reality will show you that we are Church.