text: There is a comprehension issue involved here.  "A fact can not also be a belief??  Where does that come from.  A fact is an agreement with reality.  Belief is a religious expression, fact is not.  No logic course I have known would postulate "I believe the sun is hot."  We 'know' the sun is hot, by actual knowledge of what the sun is.  No, once again, about the 'Creed being fictitious'.  The Creed is a set of beliefs...fictitious contradicts what is known to be true.  Have you been following any of this.  My point; are you here to 'troll' or are you in earnest and serious about what you write.