That went for the academies, but out side them there was still a rich vitality, and [disaffected] artists like Xu Wei, Shi Tao and Zhu Da were all original and innovative, very subversive, very modern. It's just that in the "establishment" Imp erial Palace collection, it's not so easy to see their works.
像徐渭、石濤、八大都是開創性的藝術家，非常顛覆、非常現代，只是在「官方體系」的故宮，比較不容易看見他們的作品。