For example, if goods have to take a long time to get official approval, this may mean that the routing system for getting approval isn't good. We've got to make improvements, which is to say to raise efficiency and improve attitudes about service. These have got to be combined with anti-corruption efforts. We can't make a division between "clean" and "able" government.
政府本身一定要提高效率，譬如貨物通關若很費時，那可能是通關的流程設計不良，我們就要改善，也就是提高行政效率、改善服務態度，都是要和肅貪合在一起的，「廉」和「能」根本是分不開的。