Students in college Zen societies believed that the lotus pedestals supplied by temples would allow one to pass quickly through the dead spirit stage and eliminate many karmic obstacles. Some students went so far as to take out loans from banks and place orders for several pedestals, believing that they would "pay one's debt to one's ancestors, thus allowing one to cultivate Zen without interference and enter the ideal realm more quickly."
購買蓮座的大學禪學社學生認為，寺廟裡供超渡亡靈的蓮花座可以消除業障，還有學生向銀行貸款，一次訂購好幾個，因為「蓮座可以安置先人靈魂，避免禪修過程冤親債主來干擾，使自己更快進入理想境界。」