Field work and real-life contact are important in sociology, so I went to Tainan to follow a master and took the Taoist name Ting-ch'ing.
因為社會科學講究田野調查、實地接觸，我就到台南去拜師，還取了法名叫「鼎清」，現在擔任中華民國道教會理事的陳榮盛就是我的師兄弟。