The two were Australian disciples of the Dalai Lama, Ven. Hsin Hai and Ven. Hsin Ming. However, because Tibetan Buddhism has no system for bhiksuni, they have only been ordained as sramanerika, remaining, still, Buddhist "apprentices."
心海與心明皆是澳洲人，由於藏傳佛教沒有比丘尼傳承，因此她們只能受沙彌尼戒，始終是一名佛教的見習生。