During the interview he patiently explained his elaborately drawn up blueprint for reform, speaking contemplatively in a low voice. But also he frequently broke into laughter as if a weight had been lifted from his shoulders, but perhaps even more to encourage himself under the burden that he bears.
訪談間，他耐心地解說精心親繪的改革藍圖，語音低沈，有時歛眉凝思，但又常常朗聲大笑起來，彷彿包袱盡釋，卻其實更像一種荷著重擔的自我鼓勵。