"My great grandfather was short, with red eyes, and the soles of his feet were as rough as fish nets," he says. "He could walk on mossy places without slipping. He was good at climbing cliffs and trees.
「我阿祖矮矮的，眼睛是紅色的，而且腳底粗粗的像魚網，有青苔的地方也可以走，不會滑倒，又很會攀壁、爬樹。