He once discussed with the poet Ya Hsien the problems of "poets writing essays," and Ya Hsien made a marvelous analogy: "It's like Taiwan Sugar Corporation, which not only produces sugarcane but also calcium pills and particleboard from the leftover sugarcane fiber."
他曾和詩人 s 弦討論「詩人寫散文」的問題，軋 s 弦給了個巧妙的比喻：「好比台糖公司，除了出產蔗糖，也出產鈣片和甘蔗板。」