He explains that in the 1980s if a university wanted to create a new department, it had to first consult with the Research, Development and Evaluation Commission and the Council for Economic Planning and Development to see if industry needed graduates of such programs. There was a strong sense of education being a tool that provided useful service to the nation.
他指出，1980 年代政府扮演的是「控制者」的角色，教育部審核大學設立新科系時，還要先徵詢研考會、經建會，看是否有該方面產業人才的需求，教育工具化、為國家服務的色彩非常強烈。