Not wanting them to lead us by the nose, we decided to do it on our own. "When describing how he and the Japanese were at loggerheads, the nearly 80-year-old Shiue speaks angrily in a resonant voice.
我們不想被日本人牽著鼻子走，決定自己來，」談到當年與日本人交手的情況，年近 80 歲的薛丕拱發出氣如洪鐘的聲音、忿忿地說著。