Hua Min-hui, the former secretary-general for the community, remembers being chided by the master for "changing the way I talked based upon the reactions I got from others," which he took as a sign of her being too self-absorbed. For that, she was asked to kneel and receive punitive lashes from a cane.
曾任教團秘書長的華敏慧就曾因「看聽者臉色而改變講話方式」，被上師批評是「我執」太重，要她下跪接受藤條責打。