In 1998, at the suggestion of Li Liang-yi, he took classes at the Santa Anna Art Academy's ceramics studio. "An artist's life is short and cruel. The time between graduating and reaching the end of the golden era is never more than 30 years.
1998 年在李亮一建議下，他前往美國聖塔安納藝術學院陶藝工作室參加研習課程，「創作者的壽命是短暫與殘酷的，學院畢業後到創作黃金期結束，往往不到 30 年。