Later he joined a support group course for musicians and radio people taught by a Canadian teacher who was invited by the famous radio figure Tao Hsiao-ching. After the course ended, participants who shared a desire to do something for society formed the "Musicians Exchange Society."
後來，他參加廣播名人陶曉清邀請加拿大老師、為音樂和廣播工作者所舉辦的成長團體課程，課程結束後，這些有相同體悟的成員就決定集結起來，為社會做點事情，因而組成「音樂人交流協會」。