He met with Ts'eng Hsin-chang and others to discuss how they could develop a concrete plan to increase awareness of the environment and the factors that threaten it.
他鼓勵李大朋具體擬訂組織辦法與計畫，結合學校老師、地方人士，組成一個健全的團體，共同負起管理、宣導保育清水溝溪的責任。聽了這番話，李大朋有如吃了定心丸。他不再猶疑，開始和學校幾位年輕的同事籌組「清水溝溪魚蝦保育區榮生會」。