During his field research in recent years he has noticed that many older Bunun share this point in common: "I have interviewed some very wise old people-they don't ordinarily have much to say, but when you dig a little you discover unlimited treasure."
他近年做田野調查，在許多布農耆老中，也看到這樣的共通點，「我訪問過幾個很有智慧的老人，他們平常不多話，但是深入挖掘，會發現無限的寶藏。」