"If you don't care, then the child won't make the effort," says Chen. She believes that the scale one applies is very important. "Ten to 20 % of leisure is enough!"
「如果你不在乎，孩子就不會用功，」陳淑英認為，尺度的拿捏很重要，「保持百分之十到二十的悠閒度就可以了！」