As ceramics depends on clay, water, and fire, and must be done indoors in special facilities, he feels like a mole-an animal gathering dirt and avoiding the sun.
由於陶藝伴著泥土、水揉火燒、「不見天日」的環境特性，他覺得自己就像「鼴鼠」──一種天天耙土、不喜歡陽光的哺乳類動物。