"This is a kind of art, and very emotional; self-respect is often trampled underfoot." "There are too many variables here; you can only adapt after you do this for a long time." But he's far from giving up: "You must continually strive, and never fear being washed out."
「這是件藝術的工作，很情緒化，自尊常會被踩在腳底下」，「這裡有太多的變數，要做很久才能適應」… … 但他的結論仍然是，「要不斷努力做，不要怕被沖掉。」