"That those two [referring to Chang Po-ya and Chang Wen-ying] have what they have today is due to the foundation that the other two [their parents] laid before them," says Chu Teng-peng, speaking with the wisdom of long-time Hsu family supporter.
「她們（指張博雅、張文英）會有今天，就是基礎好，兩個老人打的基礎」，朱鄧甭以許家班老人的身分說。