But when one asks birdwatchers who are familiar with orioles, they shake their heads in embarassment and say that it is very hard to associate the birds 'calls with the phrase "oriole from the valley," which in Chinese describes a person with a beautiful singing voice. Tseng Yi-shuo says bluntly that the black-naped oriole's song is like the bleating of a sheep.
證諸逐黃鶯而居的鳥友，卻頗為難的搖頭說這鶯兒叫時，「很難與黃鶯出谷聯想一起，」曾翌碩還不諱言說黃鸝聲音像羊叫，幾乎可以說是難聽。