In Big River, Big Sea-Untold Stories of 1949, Lung Ying-tai explored the stories of little people caught up in the turbulent events of 1949. Given the subject matter, it was only natural that she spoke to the author and one-time "substitute horse" Chang To-wu.
《大江大海一九四九》裡，龍應台下深海垂釣了許多許多大時代小人物，當然她和「代馬輸卒」的張拓蕪有過一番深談：