For instance, he once invented some electronic musical shoes even though he hadn't previously known anything about electronics. "First I drew up plans, then I added things based on what I learned from others, and finally I had someone make up a sample. After trying this and that, we finally ended up with electronic musical shoes."
比方說，他曾發明電子音樂鞋，但是他本人對電子一竅不通，「我先把圖畫出來，然後把別人教我的功能加進去，再請人做出來，一試再試，就完成電子音樂鞋了。」