From these experiences, he learned humility and respect. "People who've learned welding in school aren't any more skilled than the old guys in the alley who fix air conditioners. Their livelihoods depend on it so they can't make a mistake," he says.
這些經驗也讓他學會謙卑與尊重，「任何焊接科班學徒，精準度都不會比巷口修冷氣的阿伯高，因為他們以此維生，不能出錯。」