"Those were chaotic times," he explains. "Nothing was in order, and the curriculum was no exception. My first- and second-year Chinese language tests were given in Japanese. It wasn't until I graduated from middle school that I forced myself to study some of the vernacular."
「那是個混亂的時期，一切都未上軌道，學校教育也一樣，初中一、二年級時，考中國語言，是用日語考的；直到初中畢業，才勉強學了點白話文。」