Many people told him the student dropout counseling, the activity camps, the social work he organizes, and so on, "all has commercial value as well as significance in terms of social service."
很多人告訴他，目前他所做的中輟生輔導、帶領營隊及組織社區工作等等，「具有商業價值，又能兼具社會服務意義。」