His father is from Zhejiang and his mother is Hakka. When he recalls the process by which he, as a "mainland lad," came to enter into a 100 percent Taiwanese ethnic group, he cannot help but exude something of a proud and mischievous air.
父親是江蘇人，母親是客家人，他回憶起當年以一個「外省仔」進入百分之百台灣人族群的過程時，忍不住流露出得意捉狎的神色。