Several years after returning to Taiwan, he convinced a friend returning from abroad to bring some ingredients fundamental to beer-making-malt wort and hops-and using two gasoline vats he made his first batches of home brew.
回台灣後隔了幾年，他託友人從國外攜回基本釀酒材料──麥芽汁和啤酒花，再加上兩個汽油桶，就在家裡釀酒，「是樂趣，也有挑戰公賣局的意味。」