He calls her "Fan" when speaking to people who aren't intimates. She is a Chang reader who met him during an appearance on Public Television. She was working for the broadcaster and was responsible for taking care of the guests when Chang was invited to appear on a program about seniors nine years ago. Over time, a quiet, contented relationship developed.
他對外人稱她為「粉絲」，她是張拓蕪讀者，兩人相識於公視，9 年前張拓蕪去上一個銀髮族節目，在傳播公司工作的她負責接待，慢慢發展出一段既已無所求，只是相互陪伴的恬淡關係。