One side says that Taiwanese independence is already a reality, and the other says that Taiwanese independence threatens the safety of 20 million people. "They can't get outside of these two boxes." Hence, he too hopes to avoid this issue.
一邊就說我們存在台灣早是事實，是獨立的政治實體；另一邊就說台獨會危及二千萬人的安全，「超不出這兩個框框」，他也希望能避開這個話題。