Hsu Chih relates how several times during meditation he has experienced "the complete casting off of the body. I actually felt bodiless, whereas my mind was still acutely aware."
緒致自稱他曾多次在靜坐中經驗過「肉體完全放空，沒有肉體的感覺，但心念還是縷縷分明的，那不就是所謂的靈魂嗎？」