One of them once asked Chen Juhng-chang, who is in his eighties, about the Hakka custom of grave sweeping. "After I talked to him for an hour, he told me he hadn't understood a word!"
有回他們中有人特別向八十高齡的陳仲昌請教客家人拜山（掃墓）的習俗，結果，「我說了一個小時以後，他說他一點都聽不懂！」