She now teaches at San Francisco and San Diego State Universities, at the latter of which she was voted most outstanding professor. It was during this back-to-school period that she got to know the late Hsu Kai-yu, chairman of the Chinese department at San Francisco State and the author of a number of books on Chinese poetry.
就在「重為學生」期間，她認識了前加州大學中文系主任許芥昱。