In 1984 he jointly formed Performance Workshop with Stan Lai and Li Li-chun, and they had a big hit with That Night We Talked Hsiang-sheng. There were differences of opinion though and after deliberation he left the group, two years later forming Screen Theater.
民國七十三年時他與賴聲川、李立群合組「表演工作坊」，一齣「那一夜，我們說相聲」風靡了大街小巷，而後由於對經營理念歧異，他經協商後退出，兩年後自創了屏風表演班。