When Pan Huo-yen, a Ketagalan descendant who lives in Kungliao Rural Township's New Sandiao, touches upon this period of history, he becomes very animated. He even refers to the other side as "barbarians."
現居貢寮鄉新社的凱達格蘭族後裔潘火炎提起這段歷史，就相當激動，他甚至也稱對方為「番」。