"Sometimes he seemed to speak in riddles, but after singing it through a couple of times you saw what he meant," says Ch'en Ying-ling, another choral instructor. Now she follows his teaching method and explains music to the choir in metaphorical terms.
「有時你覺得他說的是一些暗語」，自稱比較不怕老師，現在也擔任團員指導老師的陳盈伶說，現在她也會學老師，用「比喻」向團員訴說音樂了。