Facing a debt of NT $ 7 million with NT $ 30,000 in interest a month, he still wrote poetry every day, helped organize the Taipei International Poetry Festival, and prepared to go to the Avignon Festival, like the debt wasn't even there, "says Chuo Li, the producer of The Wall-Passer.
面對 7 百萬元貸款、每個月 3 萬元的利息，他也不疾不徐地依舊每天寫詩、創作，忙著台北詩歌節的策展，準備到法國亞維儂藝術節的聯絡事宜，彷彿這些債務毫不存在般。」