The young people who go to his home to spread out maps and mark out mountain areas containing native settlements or unusual geography or geology, are no longer simply competing to conquer mountain peaks, but instead are surveying bit by bit the ancient tracks, historical and archaeological sites, and flora and fauna.
年輕人到他家裡，拿起地圖，畫出一塊塊以九族住民分佈或特殊地理、地質的山區，不再只是做山峰單攻、縱走，而是分階段將山區的古道系統、人文遺址、動植物調查出來。