People became more calculating and lost some of the tribal people's innocence and happy-go-lucky qualities. "With the promotion of 'holistic community building,' I began to think about how tribal people could use their local and traditional culture and develop their native talents so that they wouldn't need to leave home to make a living."
「『社區總體營造』推廣時，我就開始思考，怎樣才能把族人留在部落中，讓他們能用在地、傳統的文化，以及與生俱有的特長和秉賦來發展，而不必東奔西跑去外鄉討賺。」