He offers an example, explaining that if you have enough windows and plants in a room, you don't need an air conditioner. Hsieh believes that designers have to get away from "material" concepts and get back to nature and to fundamental human needs.
如果室內有足夠的窗戶、綠色植物，根本不用冷氣機，設計師要脫離「物」的概念，回歸自然與人本需求。