As for mountain climbing, because they have not joined the proper associations or passed formal tests, only three of them have obtained permits to work as guides, so even if they do the work of guides, they are paid only as bearers.
有天分，還得要栽培從登山界的角度來看，他們應是最佳的嚮導人才，可是因他們沒加入山岳協會，又沒通過正式的訓練、考試，因此只有三個人有嚮導證。可是，即使他們做的是嚮導工作，卻常會被人當「挑伕」使喚。