Tai: Healthy interaction with mainland China is also very important for the sake of Taiwan's development. We shouldn't be thinking about how to give them a black eye, but how to give them the right kind of stimulus.
戴：另外，台灣發展還有很重要的一項是與大陸要有良好的互動，大家的觀念應該不是去對抗它，而是給它正面的刺激。