"My grandfather traveled all over Asia, and he loved all things Eastern, so we had a lot of calligraphy, paintings and other Eastern art works around home. Lots of my granddad's expat buddies who had been kicked out of Indonesia would get together at our place to eat Indonesian food and talk about the Orient.
「外祖父擔任船長時跑遍亞洲各國，由於他很喜歡東方事物，所以家中有許多來自東方的字畫、藝術品，也經常跟當時從印尼被遣返的友人聚會，一起吃印尼菜，聊起遙遠的東方。