Though these days he's just getting by, he says that sitting under the eaves while the mountain breezes blow, eating ginger he grew himself and drinking a little Paolyta-spiked rice wine with tribespeople of his own age reminds him of being back in his valley home in the Hualien-Taitung area.
雖然現在日子過得勉強，但與年紀相仿的族人圍坐屋簷下，吃著自種的生薑，喝一點米酒加保力達，雖然沒有「馬拉桑」（喝醉），但在山風吹拂下，他說，感覺又回到了花東山谷的老家。