[High Stake Poker] Out of Character
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				Title: <strong>[High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>14-04-2009, 18:54:12</strong>
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				Interest Check (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=34030;all)<br>In Character (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=34614;all)<br><strong>Out of Character</strong><br><br><strong>Mark</strong> (Played by Hyde (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=5456))<br><ul class="bbc_list"><li>-to be revealed-</li><li>-to be revealed-</li><li>-to be revealed-</li><li>-to be revealed-</li><li>6 chips</li></ul><br><strong>Robert</strong> (Played by Buchanen (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=3093))<br><ul class="bbc_list"><li><del>Shirt<del></del></del></li><li>Pants</li><li>-to be revealed-</li><li>-to be revealed-</li><li>32 chips</li><li>Refused dare: Anal toy play</li></ul><br><strong>Claire</strong> (Played by September (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=6223))<br>(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9088/normaldsc3564.jpg)<br><ul class="bbc_list"><li>Black high heeled sandals</li><li>Figure hugging black dress</li><li>-to be revealed-</li><li>-to be revealed-</li><li>43 chips</li></ul><br><strong>Shiva</strong> (Played by Asherah (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=714))<br>(http://www.geocities.com/witchy692003/Shiva.jpg)<br><ul class="bbc_list"><li>Five inch stilettos</li><li>Choker around her neck</li><li>Black leather wet looking mini dress</li><li>Black thong</li><li>10 chips</li></ul><br><strong>George</strong> (Played by Xillen (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=1202))<br><ul class="bbc_list"><li>Bow tie</li><li>White shirt</li><li>Black suit trousers</li><li>Boxer short</li><li>14 chips</li></ul><br><strong>Kelly</strong> (Played by Kitten (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=5867))<br><ul class="bbc_list"><li>Sandals</li><li>Deep red corset</li><li>Red and white skirt</li><li>White lace panties</li><li>21 chips</li></ul><br><strong>Brynn</strong> (Played by Greenthorn (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=1478))<br><ul class="bbc_list"><li>Hair clip</li><li>Black heels</li><li>Black dress</li><li>Pair of panties</li><li>44 chips</li></ul>
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				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>BigBuckBob</strong> on <strong>14-04-2009, 19:18:30</strong>
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				Hold em seems to be your prefrence, so I'll restate it as my own here.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>14-04-2009, 19:29:00</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Actually, my own game preference is 5 card draw, but people seem to match Texas Hold'em more with the gamestyle.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>15-04-2009, 00:06:54</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				GT's out, so the game's gonna be on hold. You can post your intro if you want, but you might as well wait until we make sure we got another player.<br><br>Losing players during the game is something we'll have to deal with somehow, but I'd rather not start with one short.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Elven Sex Goddess</strong> on <strong>15-04-2009, 02:20:17</strong>
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				Tagged-&nbsp; I prefer Texas Hold'em&nbsp; thou once in awhile play some seven card and omaha.&nbsp; &nbsp;
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				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>15-04-2009, 02:53:08</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				I wanted to keep the rules pretty basic, so it's gonna be either Texas or 5 card draw.<br><br>Come to think of it, I guess Texas Hold'em would work easier anyhow.<br><br>With Texas Hold'em, the dealer can just:<br><br>- Shuffle 1 deck.<br>- Draw 2 cards per player.<br>- Draw 5 more cards and write them down for later. These cards will appear on the table.<br><br>With 5 Card Draw:<br><br>- The game could take more than 1 deck, if all players draw 4 new cards on average.<br>- The new cards vary on the number of cards people ask for, which is a lot more bookkeeping.<br><br>Anyhow, this game is on hold, until we can find a 3rd female participant.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>The Dark Raven</strong> on <strong>16-04-2009, 02:39:58</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm game as GT's replacement, as stated in the check thread... Just let me know what you need me to do
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				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>16-04-2009, 07:50:51</strong>
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				Welcome aboard, lily :)<br><br>For now, everyone gets to write a prologue post in the IC thread, about your character receiving the letter. Should provide the background as to why your character is taking up on this :)<br><br>There's a couple of nice examples in the old thread: http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=17868 (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=17868) ;)
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				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kitten</strong> on <strong>18-04-2009, 05:52:49</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Either or is okay with me. I'm familiar with both.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>21-04-2009, 11:47:29</strong>
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				Lilu&gt; Your post looks pretty good to me, but if you don't mind too much, could you stick to the regular font size?<br><br>Haven't heard anything from Aaleril, save for his single interest post, so we're looking for another male player I guess. I'd prefer to start with a base group of 6, and I guess the ladies want to have 3 guys among them :P
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Greenthorn</strong> on <strong>21-04-2009, 15:40:27</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm in...will make an IC post today
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>21-04-2009, 15:54:37</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				/me snuggles the GT :)<br><br>With that, we have 6 players, but I guess the ladies want to even it out a little?
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				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Greenthorn</strong> on <strong>21-04-2009, 18:58:34</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				How many men are there?
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>21-04-2009, 19:01:54</strong>
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				Male participants:<br>Xillen<br>Buchanen<br><br>Female participants:<br>Kitten<br>Asherah<br>Lilu<br>Greenthorn<br><br>So I guess 1-2 more male players could be considered more fair overall?
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				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Greenthorn</strong> on <strong>21-04-2009, 19:07:42</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				At least one more!!! ::)
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				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>21-04-2009, 19:19:11</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah, yeah, go recruit some!<br>I don't have that many male writing partners :P
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				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>22-04-2009, 11:08:02</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, we got 1 more male participant :) However, September posted me with a fullblown character background, avatar and intro post, pleading me to let her join, so we'll have 1 more female participant as well. :P<br><br>Male participants:<br>Xillen<br>Buchanen<br>Hyde<br><br>Female participants:<br>Kitten<br>Asherah<br>Lilu Delayne<br>Greenthorn<br>September<br><br>So if some of the ladies can round up 1 or 2 more lords/knights, please do so. Else I guess we'll go with this group.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>September</strong> on <strong>22-04-2009, 13:02:34</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=34615.msg1816350#msg1816350">Quote from: Xillen on 22-04-2009, 11:08:02</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">However, September posted me with a fullblown character background, avatar and intro post, pleading me to let her join, so we'll have 1 more female participant as well. :P</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Thanks!&nbsp; This is my Elliquiy virginity, so please be gentle with me.&nbsp; :)
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				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Elven Sex Goddess</strong> on <strong>23-04-2009, 06:33:13</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				How are we going to do the hands.&nbsp; &nbsp; We could use full tilt poker.&nbsp; use a table with the play money.&nbsp; &nbsp;
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				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>23-04-2009, 07:37:38</strong>
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				Don't most online places require all players to be there at the same time and playing out the game at once? Doesn't seem feasable to me.<br><br>The idea was to have the dealer (which rotates like usual) be out of the game for that round. The dealer can then PM everyone the cards (s)he receives, as well as showing the cards that show up in the middle of the table.<br><br>Of course, if you know of some website that can easily handle what we want, then we could have the dealer play.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>24-04-2009, 14:57:59</strong>
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				I'll be keeping track of all the player's clothes and chips in the initial post in this thread.<br><br>I think we can do current bets and pot in the IC thread, perhaps in an OOC subnote.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>BigBuckBob</strong> on <strong>24-04-2009, 21:58:13</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Should we make a note for you of the 'to be revealed' items or just let them come out as they come out?
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				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>24-04-2009, 23:29:34</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Either way is fine to me. You can keep it a secret if you want, as long as all visible articles are described :)
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				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>25-04-2009, 08:51:46</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				*scratches head*<br><br>Might have a bit of a problem here, as I kinda relied on the dealer PM-ing the cards to other players, which I'm no longer able to. I guess I'll have to find someone to do the PM-ing for me, which is gonna be a bit of a hassle :(
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>BigBuckBob</strong> on <strong>25-04-2009, 09:08:55</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				I'd say everyone does there own two cards and pm's it, but that wouldn't work either.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>25-04-2009, 09:20:03</strong>
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				Nah, the idea I had in mind:<br><br>The dealer is not participating in that particular round.<br><br><ul class="bbc_list"><li>The dealer grabs a suit of cards (either a real suit or a computer generated one).</li><li>The dealer draws 2 cards per player, and PMs each player which 2 cards (s)he receives.</li><li>The dealer draws 5 more cards and writes those down.</li><li>When the time comes, the dealer posts in the thread which cards are drawn based on his earlier notes.</li></ul><br>Since we're going with Texas Hold'em over 5 Card Draw, we know exactly how many cards we need beforehand :)<br><br>This would of course rely on people's honesty on actually randomly drawing the cards and keeping them a secret to the players. One can't cheat for himself, but one could fix the cards in a player's advantage. I'm assuming we're all adults here and this won't happen. ;)<br><br>The only problem is that I can't PM cards to other players when I'm the dealer. And when I'm not, I can't check my PM to see my own two cards. So I'll have to get someone else involved to do the card PMing in my place :/
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>BigBuckBob</strong> on <strong>25-04-2009, 09:36:00</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				irc. you can still get pm's there.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>25-04-2009, 09:46:19</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Yes, but not everyone can/wants to come on IRC. It would also require people to be on IRC at the same time.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>BigBuckBob</strong> on <strong>25-04-2009, 09:56:53</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				only other thing I can think of is a dedicated dealer. like you said, we;re all adults here. no reason to cheat. <br><br>I personally don't know if I'd rather be winning or losing.<br><br>also means no need to make sure everyone understands the dealing, or who the dealer is, just the playing.<br>
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				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>September</strong> on <strong>25-04-2009, 12:03:52</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				But even with a dedicated dealer, Xillen still can't receive PMs - i.e. he won't know what his hand is.<br><br>Maybe we should wait until he's un-castrated?
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				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>25-04-2009, 12:47:02</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				I don't want to put the game on hold. Let's keep it moving. We're not even at the part where we draw the cards yet anyhow.<br><br>I'll find a way around it. I can probably have someone else do the PMing in my place and forward her over IRC.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Greenthorn</strong> on <strong>25-04-2009, 13:55:22</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				If it's an IRC thing...I have no problem going into chat at times for the game.&nbsp; Or we can always use messenger for the card dealing?
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				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>27-04-2009, 18:06:05</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				I made an actual list of what card is what, so if you pick a card, please identify which of the 10 it is (just assume they're numbered 1 to 10 from left to right).<br><br>Also, Asherah, Hyde, are you still with us?
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>27-04-2009, 18:14:44</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Just noticed Asherah's absence post. Sounds painful! :(<br><br>Reason enough for me to wait for her. In the meantime, feel free to socialize if you want.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Elven Sex Goddess</strong> on <strong>28-04-2009, 05:16:39</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Yes it was painful.&nbsp; An still hurts when I bump it.&nbsp; Even now when typing I cannot help but reflex in using the finger.&nbsp; &nbsp; <br><br>IRC be good for me.&nbsp; Or we could do the table at one of the poker free sites like full tilt.&nbsp; 
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>28-04-2009, 11:03:37</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Getting everyone online at the same time would be pretty hard, considering timezones and all.<br><br>Of course, after a few people folded, the remaining players of the round could group up on IRC to finish the round. Or perhaps just speed post through the round.<br><br>As for that, I know people normally prefer quality over quantity, but I think that in order to keep the game going fluently, we should probably allow short and simple posts during the betting and folding, so people can post when it's their turn without having to take the time to sit down and write out a long post.<br><br>Hyde and Asherah, could the both of you include your visible clothes in a future post?<br><br>Also, Asherah, your character seems to be semi-famous. Is it someone the rest of us would recognize.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>28-04-2009, 18:29:55</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Hyde&gt; Could you specify which of the cards you want? The third, fourth, sixth, eighth and ninth cards are still remaining.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>29-04-2009, 00:30:30</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Hyde&gt; They're face down. Basically, whichever card you pick decides your place at the table and when you will be the dealer. You can't decide to draw the eight of spaces, since you have no idea which of the cards is the eight of spades. Sorry if I made this confusing.<br><br>Basically, I made a list of 10 cards in notepad, marking them with the four to king of spades. IC there are 10 cards face down laying on the table. Number 1 in my notepad is the leftmost card on the table. Since I let everyone mention which card they pick up (depending on their position on the table), everyone would get a position on the table, randomly dependent on the card they picked.<br><br>If you don't mind, for the purpose of speed, I'm gonna assume that you picked the 8th card instead of the eight of spades.<br><br>This leaves the fourth, sixth and ninth card for Asherah to pick from.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>30-04-2009, 09:26:40</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Asherah, could you pick one of the cards off the table (the 4th, 6th and 9th ones remain), so we can all decide upon play order, and get things started? :)
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Elven Sex Goddess</strong> on <strong>30-04-2009, 12:38:24</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Sure will do hun, sorry.&nbsp; <br><br>Oh and to answer your question.&nbsp; &nbsp;Yes semi famous, especially if other travels to Europe or Israel a lot.&nbsp; &nbsp;As I see her as just breaking into the American market.&nbsp; &nbsp; Not yet a household name on this side of the ocean.&nbsp; &nbsp;
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>30-04-2009, 14:07:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				This will be the play order, with the text in parentheses applying to the first round. They move down one spot every round, so next round Mark will deal, with Robert and Claire having the small and big blinds respectively. In the case that a player falls out of the tournament, the dealer is always moved 1 spot down, while the blinds are adjusted accordingly (which means that the blinds could skip over a player in such occasions).<br><br><ul class="bbc_list"><li>Mark (small blind)</li><li>Robert (big blind)</li><li>Claire</li><li>Shiva</li><li>Victoria</li><li>George</li><li>Kelly</li><li>Brynn (dealer)</li></ul><br>As for dealing the cards:<br><br><ul class="bbc_list"><li>Either use a real deck of cards, or some program that can show cards in a random order (Solitaire that comes with Windows can suffice).</li><li>Make sure the deck has 52 cards, not 32. Also, remove all Jesters if applicable (or just ignore them and draw another card whenever you draw one).</li><li>Draw 2 cards per player, except for yourself. PM each player their cards.</li><li>Draw 5 more cards, and write these down somewhere.</li><li>Make an IC post about shuffling the cards and dealing them to the players.</li><li>Whenever everyone's done betting and raising, make another IC post describing the "flop", which would be the first three of the five additional cards you drew back then.</li><li>Later on, do the same for the "turn" and the "river", which would be the fourth and fifth card.</li><li>Finally, at the end of the game, whenever everyone still in displays their cards, check to make sure those are the cards they received originally.</li></ul><br>Small note about burning. Officially, just before displaying the flop, turn and river, one card is moved from the deck to the discard pile. This way players can't see what's coming at them, in case some of the cards would be marked. Dealers are of course welcome to describe this process in the IC thread, but no additional bookkeeping is required, as we never get to see the card's face. You don't have to actually burn any cards when you draw them out at the start, but you could, if you'd consider it part of the game.<br><br>In case you didn't get the note about burning cards, just ignore it, it's of no importance :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>30-04-2009, 15:03:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Didn't intend to leave Kitten and GT out of the post, but it was getting a bit forced to continue on and on without interaction reply.<br><br>George will still be coming your way! ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>30-04-2009, 15:22:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				GT found a useful site: http://random.org/playing-cards/ (http://random.org/playing-cards/)<br><br>Just make sure you enter the number 19 for cards drawn (you want to draw all 19 at once, to make sure all cards are unique).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>30-04-2009, 23:42:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Since Mark and Robert have the blinds, Claire will start the first round of bidding (having to at least match the big blind or fold). After the flop (as well as the turn and the river), Mark will be the one starting to bid (with no blinds required to match to).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>04-05-2009, 08:54:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I modified the initial post a little. It's now in the order of play. In addition, I made the player names link to sending them a PM, which might come in handy if you're handing out the cards.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>04-05-2009, 23:56:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				PS. If anyone feels like folding, you don't have to wait for your turn to do that ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>08-05-2009, 10:51:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=6254">Quote from: Lilu Delayne on 08-05-2009, 08:42:17</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Im sorry Xillen but I have to pull out of the game. I just got a job that needs me to work 12-14 hours a day and I wont any time to play. Sorry again.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>This is a tad awkward, since we're in the middle of some high bets that were initiated by her. We have several options, and I would like to know what the rest thinks of them:<br><br><ul class="bbc_list" style="list-style-type: decimal;"><li>Replace Lilu. Find another player willing to take over her character.</li><li>Remove Lilu's character from the game, reshuffle and redeal the cards. Play again from scratch.</li><li>Remove Lilu's character from the game. Asherah's character takes the current pot.</li><li>Remove Lilu's character from the game. Compare her hand to Asherah's. If Asherah's hand beats hers, Asherah's character takes the current pot and Lilu's 10 chips. If Lilu's hand beats Asherah's, Asherah will have to do a dare to get 10 chips back.</li></ul><br>The first two options would be fairest, pokerwise.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Greenthorn</strong> on <strong>08-05-2009, 13:10:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				My vote: <br><br>Remove Lilu's character from the game, reshuffle and redeal the cards. Play again from scratch.<br><br>Or:<br><br>Remove Lilu's character from the game. Compare her hand to Asherah's. If Asherah's hand beats hers, Asherah's character takes the current pot and Lilu's 10 chips. If Lilu's hand beats Asherah's, Asherah will have to do a dare to get 10 chips back.<br><br>But really, maybe Asherah should choose.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Elven Sex Goddess</strong> on <strong>08-05-2009, 13:55:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I am think either one of these.&nbsp; &nbsp;Is the same as Greenthorn's<br><br>* Remove Lilu's character from the game, reshuffle and redeal the cards. Play again from scratch.<br><br>or<br><br>* Remove Lilu's character from the game. Compare her hand to Asherah's. If Asherah's hand beats hers, Asherah's character takes the current pot and Lilu's 10 chips. If Lilu's hand beats Asherah's, Asherah will have to do a dare to get 10 chips back.<br><br><br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kitten</strong> on <strong>08-05-2009, 15:43:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think -Remove Lilu's character from the game, reshuffle and redeal the cards. Play again from scratch.- would be the best action to take.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>08-05-2009, 17:08:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ok, I'm gonna go with removing Lilu and redealing the cards.<br><br>Order stays the same, so GT will be dealing again.<br><br>The thread remains at: http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=34614;all (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=34614;all)<br><br>The old version of the first round can be found here: http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=36434;all (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=36434;all)<br><br>In case anyone objects to the threads being split like that, contact me (or a goddess). They only allow the splitting of threads if all participants agree with it.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>BigBuckBob</strong> on <strong>08-05-2009, 19:15:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sounds good
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>September</strong> on <strong>12-05-2009, 09:58:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Is it Claire's turn now?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>12-05-2009, 11:39:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				No. We're done with the blinds, so Hyde/Mark and Buchanen/Robert get their normal turns to bet. Your turn is after Robert.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>14-05-2009, 21:08:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just as a note, since we just showed new cards, there are no bids open, so Mark could've sing it out another round without having to pay a chip.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>15-05-2009, 14:02:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Keep in mind, whoever wins this hand gets to give the other two persons a dare (either separate ones, or one involving them together). Only if they do not want to do the dare do they need to strip.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>16-05-2009, 17:18:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=34614.msg1886684#msg1886684">Quote from: Buchanen on 16-05-2009, 16:05:06</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">if he didn't go through with it, it was very likely people would use it to their advantage in the next few rounds.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>For your info, it is not allowed to give someone a dare that he passed upon earlier. Since you passed on this dare, you can't be given any further anal toy play dares.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Greenthorn</strong> on <strong>16-05-2009, 17:25:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=34615.msg1886794#msg1886794">Quote from: Xillen on 16-05-2009, 17:18:20</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">For your info, it is not allowed to give someone a dare that he passed upon earlier. Since you passed on this dare, you can't be given any further anal toy play dares.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Well what about anal finger play dares?&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;:)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>16-05-2009, 17:29:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I guess that would be different, though opinions may vary.<br><br>If you get a dare that you think is similar enough to a dare you refused earlier, you can request a vote.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>BigBuckBob</strong> on <strong>16-05-2009, 17:32:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I didn't think people would just use the same dare over and over. But it does open up a bit of his personality. I'd explain better, but I wouldn't want to give anyone any ideas. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>16-05-2009, 17:36:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=34615.msg1886819#msg1886819">Quote from: Buchanen on 16-05-2009, 17:32:00</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I didn't think people would just use the same dare over and over.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Neither do I, but in case people would want to play dirty, a rule prevents it.<br><br>And yeah, refusing a dare pretty much discloses your limits to the rest.<br><br>So, what's under that shirt of yours? And while we're on the topic, do we know what Mark is wearing at all?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>BigBuckBob</strong> on <strong>16-05-2009, 17:43:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				nothing under my top.<br><br>All three remaining pieces are waist down.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>16-05-2009, 17:45:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Okies. We'll wait and see then ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>19-05-2009, 20:30:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just making sure:<br><br>Whenever I send a PM to a player, I do that to indicate it's that player's turn. I'm doing that because in some situations, people seem to be missing who's turn it is.<br><br>When you receive my PM, please do not feel pushed to do this thread first. Most of you probably have other threads to reply to as well, or maybe other stuff to work on. It's just a PM to clear up who's turn it is, not an attempt to boost you to posting.<br><br>Had to get that off my mind :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>September</strong> on <strong>19-05-2009, 22:12:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I appreciate the gentle nudges.&nbsp; :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Greenthorn</strong> on <strong>19-05-2009, 22:23:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I like my nudges on messenger&nbsp; ;D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>19-05-2009, 22:25:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, I only have access to IM's at home.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Greenthorn</strong> on <strong>19-05-2009, 22:29:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ahh then PMs will do!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>11-06-2009, 13:05:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm really sorry for the holdup back there. RL kinda got me swamped :(
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>26-06-2009, 17:31:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm sorry, but issues between staff and me are escalating to the point where I really don't want to visit Elliquiy anymore. My apologies for that. If any of you wants to keep the game rolling, then that person has all my support :)<br><br>If any of you wishes to contact me, you're free to IM me or PM me over IRC :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Elven Sex Goddess</strong> on <strong>27-06-2009, 00:01:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I suggest we take turns.&nbsp; Running the game.&nbsp; Whoever is dealer of the hand.&nbsp; Is the one that keeps track of that hand.&nbsp; &nbsp;<br><br>I say we play with 6,&nbsp; leaving Xillen's place open.&nbsp; For hopefully things workout for the best and all is happy.&nbsp; He can jump back in.&nbsp; <br><br>But anyways I like to continue.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Greenthorn</strong> on <strong>27-06-2009, 02:19:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm going to write my character out.&nbsp; I was only in the game for Xillen...hell I don't even know how to play poker&nbsp; ::)&nbsp; I won't leave it hanging in case you all want to continue...Brynn will steal something and leave&nbsp; ;D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xillen</strong> on <strong>27-06-2009, 04:01:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry for screwing the game up like that. Here's the summary of the current chips, so I could remove it from my IC post.<br><br><ul class="bbc_list"><li>Mark: 0 chips</li><li>Robert: 26 chips</li><li><del>Claire: 43 chips</del> (folded)</li><li><del>Shiva: 10 chips</del> (dealer)</li><li><del>George: 13 chips</del> (folded)</li><li>Kelly: 15 chips</li><li>Brynn: 38 chips &lt;---</li></ul><br>Pot: 25 chips
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>BigBuckBob</strong> on <strong>27-06-2009, 20:25:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry to hear about your troubles. hope it works out for you.<br><br>I like Asherah's suggestion on how to keep things up.<br><br>And Brynn stealing something is a good way to write both Brynn and George out of the game.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>BigBuckBob</strong> on <strong>28-06-2009, 20:45:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				nevermind
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [High Stake Poker] Out of Character</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>BigBuckBob</strong> on <strong>10-07-2009, 20:54:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				# Mark: 10 chips&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;minus&nbsp; small blind <br># Robert: 103 chips&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;minus big blind<br># Claire: 43 chips&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -- first to act<br># Shiva: 10 chips<br># Kelly: 10 chips&nbsp; Dealer <br><br>Pot: the blinds<br><br>I can't remember what the blinds were, 1 and 2? 5 and ten?<br><br>----<br>And keeping track with Xillen's system<br>Kelly:<br>Lost shoes<br>Refused dare: Strip tease<br><br>Mark:<br>Lost one item [you might want to say what at some point]<br>Refused dare: Make someone else do a strip tease
			</dd>
		</dl>
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