Skyhold - OOC
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				Title: <strong>Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Primarch</strong> on <strong>01-02-2015, 16:41:03</strong>
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				<div align="center">(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120925192538/dragonage/images/2/23/Inquisition_heraldry_DA2.png)<br><br>This is our OOC Thread, feel free to use it for all of your OOC requirements. <br><br>At this point I would encourage you to establish any previous history/connections to one another. I image quite a few characters (especially the ones in high rank) will have been at Skyhold for some years so it shouldn't be too difficult. <br><br>On another note, if anybody has an idea for a mission/quest they would like to run via the War Table, feel free to start PMing ideas to me. I have put together this little template for convenience. </div><div class="codeheader">Code: <a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="return smfSelectText(this);" class="codeoperation">[Select]</a></div><pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"><code class="bbc_code">[b]Quest:[/b] -Name here-<br>[b]Difficulty:[/b] -Easy/Standard/Hard/Challenging<br>[b]Basic Premise:[/b] -Basic idea behind the mission, including likely opponents and other obstacles-<br>[b]IC Intro:[/b] -How you would want the mission explained to the War Table 'IC'- <br></code></pre>
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				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>01-02-2015, 17:08:21</strong>
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				<div align="center"><span style="font-size: 36pt;" class="bbc_size"><strong>FIRST!!!</strong></span></div><br>I will definitely come up with a few ideas once this weekend is over! :3
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				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>01-02-2015, 17:29:54</strong>
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				Sweeeeeeet! Thanks Primarch :-) I'm just gonna go post Kas in the Character thread since you said I was free to post him in...if that's an issue, let me know and I'll remove him. I've also decided on a theme "song" for him, as I usually do with my characters, so that's going in there as well.<br><br>I already have a few ideas as to how Kas knows everybody, but I'll sit on those until I see who else is still interested/approved. :D
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				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>06-02-2015, 09:55:07</strong>
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				Soooo....it's a bit quiet, is it not? What do people wanna chat about?
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				Post by: <strong>Juggtacular</strong> on <strong>06-02-2015, 09:59:44</strong>
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				How old Empress Celene was. She and her cousin were still hot, but they were clearly older. I'm thinkin' early-mid 50's.
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				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>06-02-2015, 12:02:27</strong>
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				Well, lessee....she was born in 9:04 Dragon, ascended to the throne in 9:20 and Inquisition takes place in 9:41. So, she took the throne at 16 and - at the time of Inquisition - she's about 37. You were closer with Florianne, though; she was born in 8:87 Blessed, which makes her 54. <br><br><br>Yes, I've read all the Codex entries. I know a lot of useless Dragon Age Trivia. XD<br><br><br>EDIT: Did my sums wrong, somehow. XD
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				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>06-02-2015, 12:44:21</strong>
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				Just some random thoughts:<br><br>DA:I is my first Dragon Age game.&nbsp; ("A fantasy version of Mass Effect?!&nbsp; I'm in.")&nbsp; I've had it for weeks now, but I stopped playing the campaign with my human female warrior right at the point of making a choice between supporting mages or templars.&nbsp; I wasn't sure if I wanted to keep going in that game, in which direction I would go (mages or templars), or if I should just start a new character so I could pursue Cassandra.&nbsp; It's been all multiplayer since then for me.<br><br>I love Cassandra.&nbsp; She actually resembles my first and favorite World of Warcraft character, a female tanking warrior with short black hair named Khitana.&nbsp; (I always play female characters.&nbsp; I like seeing women walk, run, fight, etc.&nbsp; I don't think I am the female character I play; I think of it as I am the master and she is my pet and I am making her do what I want.)<br><br>I think my ideal party would include Cassandra and Vivienne (for inevitable arcane warrior knight enchanter awesomeness).&nbsp; The Iron Bull is also fun.&nbsp; So I would have to be a rogue or a mage with barrier or something like that.<br><br>The lore is cool but it hasn't sucked me in like other games have.<br><br>My character for this game, the Tankard (aka Tankard, aka Tank), is relatively new compared to the higher ranking ones.&nbsp; He has a decent rep, but he might be on the B-Team instead of the A-Team at the moment.<br><br>I am mostly interested in him pursuing some kind of romance with a female character.&nbsp; <br><br>I am also open to a fight scene with any characters as party members.&nbsp; There could be banter going on within the party, along with abilities being RP'ed out.&nbsp; For example, I made it so my character has a lot of taunts, but instead of just being some kind of effect coming out of his mouth, he actually says stuff that will get the attention of his enemies.<br>
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				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>06-02-2015, 13:48:38</strong>
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				Huh...interesting. I always play through with a Male Rogue first (a habit I fell into with Origins when I would pass all those pesky locked chests in the Prologue and not be able to open them...they would sit there....taunting me....) and then a female warrior second. Honestly, I can't say anything about your personal playstyle, but I always commit to one playthrough and THEN start a second, whilst I know people that have three games on the go at the same time. *shrug* If you're playing as a female, I would suggest going after Cullen. He's utterly adorable AND awesome. He's probably my favourite male NPC in the entire Franchise. The Mulitplayer is kinda....meh for me. It's much the same as ME3's, and the thing is, it gets sorta samey and I play DA for the story. Plus, I can barely stand other people as it is...why would I risk the Online Play community when I can barely tolerate most people I know? :P <br>Side note: I am currently on my FOURTH playthrough, ten hours in. Yes. I have, to date, spent THREE HUNDRED hours on DA:I. I didn't play through DA:O this many times! My first game was a Male Qunari Dual-Wield Assassin who romanced Cassandra (You're right, Vin, she's pretty awesome, and if you give her the skills to get Guard whenever she taunts an enemy, she should ALWAYS be in your Dragon Hunting crew), my second was a Female Human Sword and Board Champion who romanced Cullen (Because he's awesome), my third character was a Female Elven Knight Enchanter who romanced Solas (Fuck you, Solas) and my current character is a male Dwarf Archer who I plan to make a Tempest and pair with Iron Bull or Dorian. Haven't decided yet. Then I plan to make another female to romance Sera. <br><br>As for the party, my party always inherently depends on who my PC is. In my first game, I never used Vivienne...I didn't like her. She was a condescending bitch who disagreed with all of my first-run decisions, and given the right build, Solas and Dorian are much better for what I would want them for. I don't want an NPC Knight Enchanter. I want my Mages to stay at the back and use heavy artillery to support, not run in and bury their faces in a Dragons ass, especially given how squishy they are. My usual party for my main (first) character was Blackwall or Cassandra, Varric and Dorian or Solas. My second character usually took Cole (for the stabby stabby) or Iron Bull (for the smashy smashy), Dorian or Blackwall, and Sera. My KE either took Cassandra, Cole and Solas/Dorian, or Blackwall, Iron Bull and Varric/Sera. <br><br><br>And haha, yeah, I can appreciate that. There is a LOT to penetrate, and whilst I will quite happily sit there and read the lore (as should probably be evident by now, haha), there's a lot there that I can understand people not wanting to wade through. XD<br><br>Well, we'll have to see on that one! If none of the female characters like Tankard, then none of them like him, alas. As it is, I don't see Kas "getting any action" with a PC any time soon. He's too cynical and snarky for any of the current female characters....at least, that's what I think. It's entirely possible that I'm wrong; I've been mistaken before, so you never know. XD<br><br><br>As for fights, well, we'll see what happens! I doubt Kas will stoop to actually getting into a brawl with anybody in The Inquisition, though snarky snipes might happen depending on what Tankard says. :P Of course, he would have to have some pretty specific knowledge about Kas to get under his skin. XD<br>And yeah, that's kinda what I imagined Taunt to be like. Just like I figured Kas's Stealth would be him dropping smoke bombs or flitting into a dark room or something. Like, not disappearing, just using a distraction to hide or something. XD
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				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>06-02-2015, 14:24:56</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=222817.msg10958636#msg10958636">Quote from: Vergil Tanner on 06-02-2015, 13:48:38</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Huh...interesting. I always play through with a Male Rogue first (a habit I fell into with Origins when I would pass all those pesky locked chests in the Prologue and not be able to open them...they would sit there....taunting me....) and then a female warrior second. Honestly, I can't say anything about your personal playstyle, but I always commit to one playthrough and THEN start a second, whilst I know people that have three games on the go at the same time. *shrug* If you're playing as a female, I would suggest going after Cullen. He's utterly adorable AND awesome. He's probably my favourite male NPC in the entire Franchise. The Mulitplayer is kinda....meh for me. It's much the same as ME3's, and the thing is, it gets sorta samey and I play DA for the story. Plus, I can barely stand other people as it is...why would I risk the Online Play community when I can barely tolerate most people I know? :P <br>Side note: I am currently on my FOURTH playthrough, ten hours in. Yes. I have, to date, spent THREE HUNDRED hours on DA:I. I didn't play through DA:O this many times! My first game was a Male Qunari Dual-Wield Assassin who romanced Cassandra (You're right, Vin, she's pretty awesome, and if you give her the skills to get Guard whenever she taunts an enemy, she should ALWAYS be in your Dragon Hunting crew), my second was a Female Human Sword and Board Champion who romanced Cullen (Because he's awesome), my third character was a Female Elven Knight Enchanter who romanced Solas (Fuck you, Solas) and my current character is a male Dwarf Archer who I plan to make a Tempest and pair with Iron Bull or Dorian. Haven't decided yet. Then I plan to make another female to romance Sera. <br><br>As for the party, my party always inherently depends on who my PC is. In my first game, I never used Vivienne...I didn't like her. She was a condescending bitch who disagreed with all of my first-run decisions, and given the right build, Solas and Dorian are much better for what I would want them for. I don't want an NPC Knight Enchanter. I want my Mages to stay at the back and use heavy artillery to support, not run in and bury their faces in a Dragons ass, especially given how squishy they are. My usual party for my main (first) character was Blackwall or Cassandra, Varric and Dorian or Solas. My second character usually took Cole (for the stabby stabby) or Iron Bull (for the smashy smashy), Dorian or Blackwall, and Sera. My KE either took Cassandra, Cole and Solas/Dorian, or Blackwall, Iron Bull and Varric/Sera. <br><br><br>And haha, yeah, I can appreciate that. There is a LOT to penetrate, and whilst I will quite happily sit there and read the lore (as should probably be evident by now, haha), there's a lot there that I can understand people not wanting to wade through. XD<br><br>Well, we'll have to see on that one! If none of the female characters like Tankard, then none of them like him, alas. As it is, I don't see Kas "getting any action" with a PC any time soon. He's too cynical and snarky for any of the current female characters....at least, that's what I think. It's entirely possible that I'm wrong; I've been mistaken before, so you never know. XD<br><br><br>As for fights, well, we'll see what happens! I doubt Kas will stoop to actually getting into a brawl with anybody in The Inquisition, though snarky snipes might happen depending on what Tankard says. :P Of course, he would have to have some pretty specific knowledge about Kas to get under his skin. XD<br>And yeah, that's kinda what I imagined Taunt to be like. Just like I figured Kas's Stealth would be him dropping smoke bombs or flitting into a dark room or something. Like, not disappearing, just using a distraction to hide or something. XD<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Nice feedback.&nbsp; Thanks a bunch.<br><br>For playstyle in combat, I switch between all the party members all the time, as opposed to playing only my character.<br><br>Cullen is definitely cool, but I haven't seen very much of him yet.&nbsp; I'll probably aim for The Iron Bull.<br><br>Multiplayer is buggy, but there's something about it that keeps pulling me back in.&nbsp; My brother plays, too, so the two of us can pull a bad team through.&nbsp; I guess it's the fleeting feeling.&nbsp; Spend about 15 minutes on a run, maybe upgrade the characters a bit.&nbsp; Except for being unable to reset builds before prestiging, there's not a whole lot to mess up in a permanent way.&nbsp; And beating a boss on threatening or even routine feels like an achievement, if only for the moment.&nbsp; The loot system is terrible, but I'm not really into loot, just the fights.<br><br>On the other hand, with the campaign, every decision seems to matter in the long run, whether it's the dialogue option that's chosen to affect approval, the party members you bring along to witness fights/dialogues affecting approval, or even who you send on a mission from the war table affecting the reward.&nbsp; I tend to keep only the most recent 5 saves since I don't want to replay hours to undo some mistake I think I made.&nbsp; I get stuck wanting to do all the "right" or "optimal" things, so instead of actually playing I'm doing research.&nbsp; All of that probably pushed me away from the campaign once I had to make the biggest decision so far of supporting mages or templars.<br><br>I'll keep your party member combinations in mind if/when I get back into the campaign.<br><br>
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				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>xPeachyPuff</strong> on <strong>06-02-2015, 15:29:03</strong>
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				I've not had my character accepted yet, but I thought I'd pop in and say hi! <br><br>My party in the game was always Varric (I couldn't not take him after I played DA2), Blackwall and Iron Bull. I really, really loved Dorian as well, but since I play a Mage, there isn't much point in having him in my party as well. The character that really, really got on my nerves is Sera. I really couldn't stand her at first, but she's grown on me a little since my first play through. At the moment, Cullen is my favourite guy ♥ He's just so cute and sexy and the same time xD And I love a man with a dark past lol! I'm also looking into getting with Iron Bull in the next play through and then I wanna make a male to romance Dorian, since I love him lol. I'm also thinking about maybe making a human female to get with Blackwall at some point too, just cause I think it could have been interesting, but I duno yet.<br><br>Anyways, I hope my character gets reviewed soon so I can start plotting with peoples (:<br><br>- Rainbow ♥ 
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				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>06-02-2015, 15:36:39</strong>
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				It's cool, no worries :-)<br><br>Ah, I see. I tend to switch between them as well, but only when I need specific abilities used. The AI, in general, is intelligent enough to know not to use a fire spell on a Rage Demon, haha. Although, the ranged guys need a bit of babysitting sometimes when fighting dragons...why, Varric, if you have a crossbow, do you insist on being close enough to the Dragons hind legs to give its underbelly a good lick? GET OUT OF MELEE. Seriously, when fighting the tougher dragons, that starts to get irritating. It's why I didn't give Vivienne the KE abilities; I want to play as my character, not babysit her and make sure she's not dying from the dragon sitting on her. XD<br><br>You'll think Cullen is awesome by the end of it. Not only did he survive the fall of the Mage Tower in Ferelden (and get through Demons trying to break his mind) but he also stood up to Meredith in DA2 and survived the outbreak of the Mage/Templar war, but also refused to fight with his fellow Templars against the rebel mages and left the chantry and his only (at the time) source of Lyrium. To say any more would ruin some pretty major character plot developments for him. &gt;.&gt;<br><br>Oh, I understand. I just don't really like that kind of multiplayer, especially when getting a bad team means you lose the round. Also, I play it on PS4, and I am NOT buying PS+ for a multiplayer I would probably play once a week, if that. XD<br><br>Well, I think you're overestimating the importance of the choices; many of them only effect what quests you can get later on, or whether you unlock the next War Table quest. Don't worry about them overly much; you'll know the MAJOR choices when you get to them. With the Templar/Mage one, it really only affects a few cutscenes, some dialogue choices and end-cards. Two playthroughs will probably give you most of the possible endings, if you just make the opposite choices. If you hate the Templar or Mage decision, you'll absolutely despise Wicked Eyes, Wicked Hearts. You effectively have to choose who takes power in Orlais. XD<br><br>Haha, well, it's all about balance: You ALWAYS want a Mage, you ALWAYS want a Tank, you ALWAYS want a Rogue, and the fourth member depends on who else you chose. I tend to roll with two melee and two range guys, but I know some people whose favourite composition is one tank, one archer and two mages. It's really up to you and how your playstyle differs from other peoples. :D<br><br><br>@ Snorkle:<br><br>First off, let me say that I hope your character gets approved; I like the looks of her :D<br><br>Second, I completely agree. I love Varric, and that cutscene with the game of Wicked Grace was awesome. My usual composition with my Male Rogue was Cassandra, Varric and Solas. Cassandra and Varric had some interesting conversations...although, if you take Solas and Iron Bull after the Qunari mission (no spoilers) and you chose the not-heartless option, Solas and Iron Bull have a running conversation thread where they're playing chess in their heads, from memory. XD Very amusing. And I agree, Cullen is AWESOME. Especially if he gives up you-know-what. That stuff is like crack cocaine in Thedas. XD<br>I agree with Sera...she got on my tits at first, but then I started to warm to her when I realised that all the snark and aggression is just her way of coping with a rough life. Still don't like Vivienne, though, even after three hundred hours of play. She's just a bitch. XD Of course, the end of the romance with Solas is heart breaking. :-( Afterwards, I made a point of not taking him on any more missions and taking away the sweet-ass staff that I gave him. Seriously. Fuck Solas. Lol.
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				Post by: <strong>xPeachyPuff</strong> on <strong>06-02-2015, 15:43:54</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=222817.msg10958737#msg10958737">Quote from: Vergil Tanner on 06-02-2015, 15:36:39</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">@ Snorkle:<br><br>First off, let me say that I hope your character gets approved; I like the looks of her :D<br><br>Second, I completely agree. I love Varric, and that cutscene with the game of Wicked Grace was awesome. My usual composition with my Male Rogue was Cassandra, Varric and Solas. Cassandra and Varric had some interesting conversations...although, if you take Solas and Iron Bull after the Qunari mission (no spoilers) and you chose the not-heartless option, Solas and Iron Bull have a running conversation thread where they're playing chess in their heads, from memory. XD Very amusing. And I agree, Cullen is AWESOME. Especially if he gives up you-know-what. That stuff is like crack cocaine in Thedas. XD<br>I agree with Sera...she got on my tits at first, but then I started to warm to her when I realised that all the snark and aggression is just her way of coping with a rough life. Still don't like Vivienne, though, even after three hundred hours of play. She's just a bitch. XD Of course, the end of the romance with Solas is heart breaking. :-( Afterwards, I made a point of not taking him on any more missions and taking away the sweet-ass staff that I gave him. Seriously. Fuck Solas. Lol.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Oh god. I didn't have any intention of getting with Solas in a play through, but now that you've said that, I'm really curious as to what happens! I might have to add that to my list now.... <br><br>And thank you for your comment about my character! Glad you like her (:<br><br>- Rainbow ♥
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				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>06-02-2015, 15:50:23</strong>
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				Haha, well, he'll only get with a female elf, so apparently he's racist as well. XD Well, it makes sense, given who he is [ no spoilers here, kiddies ], but still. Anywho, yeah...I can understand why it ended the way it did, but at that point I had just spent seventy five hours playing as my female elf mage, and I was really into roleplaying as her and I can't imagine her wanting to be anywhere near Solas after that. <br><br>You're welcome! I like the idea of a scatterbrained elf who is that way pretty much because she's had a shit life. I feel really sorry for her :-( Of course, I'd never <em>say</em> that. I like my hair un-on-fire. XD
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				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>06-02-2015, 20:47:47</strong>
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				Cullen is always awesome...da fuck?
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				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>09-02-2015, 13:17:46</strong>
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				Where is everyone?!
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				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>09-02-2015, 13:24:50</strong>
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				Honestly, that's kinda what I was wondering. Or, more accurately, "Where is Primarch?" 
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				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>09-02-2015, 14:53:28</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=222817.msg10958737#msg10958737">Quote from: Vergil Tanner on 06-02-2015, 15:36:39</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Ah, I see. I tend to switch between them as well, but only when I need specific abilities used. The AI, in general, is intelligent enough to know not to use a fire spell on a Rage Demon, haha. Although, the ranged guys need a bit of babysitting sometimes when fighting dragons...why, Varric, if you have a crossbow, do you insist on being close enough to the Dragons hind legs to give its underbelly a good lick? GET OUT OF MELEE. Seriously, when fighting the tougher dragons, that starts to get irritating. It's why I didn't give Vivienne the KE abilities; I want to play as my character, not babysit her and make sure she's not dying from the dragon sitting on her. XD<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I read somewhere, probably in reddit's DragonAgeCoOp sub-reddit, that having each character follow himself helps with that kind of positioning issue.&nbsp; Another advantage is you don't have to adjust the AI's follow target when you change your party (since they are already following themselves).<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Well, I think you're overestimating the importance of the choices; many of them only effect what quests you can get later on, or whether you unlock the next War Table quest. Don't worry about them overly much; you'll know the MAJOR choices when you get to them. With the Templar/Mage one, it really only affects a few cutscenes, some dialogue choices and end-cards. Two playthroughs will probably give you most of the possible endings, if you just make the opposite choices. If you hate the Templar or Mage decision, you'll absolutely despise Wicked Eyes, Wicked Hearts. You effectively have to choose who takes power in Orlais. XD<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I'll keep that in mind.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=222817.msg10966933#msg10966933">Quote from: la dame en noir on 09-02-2015, 13:17:46</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Where is everyone?!<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=222817.msg10966940#msg10966940">Quote from: Vergil Tanner on 09-02-2015, 13:24:50</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Honestly, that's kinda what I was wondering. Or, more accurately, "Where is Primarch?" <br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I'm still here.<br><br>We could do a quick mission.&nbsp; Perhaps something like the characters escorting the Lady Juliette Augusto during her diplomatic mission.<br><br>It could start off in some place other than Skyhold with Juliette doing a dance for some nobles.&nbsp; After she concludes her ambassador mission, the other characters can escort her back to Skyhold.<br><br>
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				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>09-02-2015, 14:54:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				YAY! I'm included lol
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>09-02-2015, 15:01:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Eh, it's a small niggle...in general, the AI is fairly competent. :-) <br><br>That's a good idea, actually. Start off a small quest while we wait...although, I'm unsure what an assassin would be doing with them, but I'm sure we can handwave that as a "She's important; just go with it." XD<br><br>EDIT: Of course, it's entirely possible that some of the Spymasters agents have intercepted reports that somebody is planning on attempting an assassination of the character, so they've assigned extra security to her, just in case. After all, the best way to stop an assassin is to hire your own, better assassin. Who knows the art better than another practitioner, after all? :D That would rather handily explain the presence of so much security and the assignment of an assassin to "bodyguard duty." :-)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>09-02-2015, 15:15:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=222817.msg10967048#msg10967048">Quote from: la dame en noir on 09-02-2015, 14:54:54</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">YAY! I'm included lol<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>You're the star.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=222817.msg10967061#msg10967061">Quote from: Vergil Tanner on 09-02-2015, 15:01:34</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">That's a good idea, actually. Start off a small quest while we wait...although, I'm unsure what an assassin would be doing with them, but I'm sure we can handwave that as a "She's important; just go with it." XD<br><br>EDIT: Of course, it's entirely possible that some of the Spymasters agents have intercepted reports that somebody is planning on attempting an assassination of the character, so they've assigned extra security to her, just in case. After all, the best way to stop an assassin is to hire your own, better assassin. Who knows the art better than another practitioner, after all? :D That would rather handily explain the presence of so much security and the assignment of an assassin to "bodyguard duty." :-)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>He could be useful while traveling if they run into trouble.&nbsp; He could use his stealth to scout ahead, or make sure that they're not being followed.<br><br>And he could be useful at the destination, using his stealth to sneak around and scope the place out.<br><br>The Tankard could be a more obvious bodyguard of Lady Juliette, there to intimidate potential attackers away as well as physically protect her.&nbsp; Your character could be more covert, a secret weapon to be unleashed when absolutely necessary.<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>09-02-2015, 15:25:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah, that sounds about right. I mean, her being the head ambassador is justification enough to assign "The best" to her, though didn't you say that The Tankard was fairly new to The Inquisition? In which case, he would have to be pretty trusted to be given bodyguard duty of the ambassador :P But seriously, perhaps Kas was deployed to their destination to spy/keep an eye on things (political meetings are ripe targets for assassins, after all), and is accompanying them back to Skyhold. That sounds sensible to me. :D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>09-02-2015, 15:39:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				LMAO I did NOT sign up for this.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>09-02-2015, 15:52:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Unfortunately, it seems that you did; after all, who signs up to be the head ambassador for The Inquisition and doesn't expect a fair amount of danger going with it? :P :P I mean, assassinations and attempted mind control is an every day occurrence for nobles of Thedas, if the games are anything to go by :P :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>09-02-2015, 16:03:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think my girl might have a thing for Ounari men and women &gt;.&gt;
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>09-02-2015, 16:15:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				LOL, well, I guess The Tankard is in there, then :P :P Just don't tell him that, or he won't leave your character alone :P :P 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>09-02-2015, 16:28:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				lol Oh goodness me
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>09-02-2015, 16:40:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, I suppose how "into" Qunari individuals your character is if/when we get started. Though I'm sure there's a rule about a bodyguard trying to seduce his employer <em>somewhere,</em> haha. XD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>09-02-2015, 16:41:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=222817.msg10967113#msg10967113">Quote from: Vergil Tanner on 09-02-2015, 15:25:32</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Yeah, that sounds about right. I mean, her being the head ambassador is justification enough to assign "The best" to her, though didn't you say that The Tankard was fairly new to The Inquisition? In which case, he would have to be pretty trusted to be given bodyguard duty of the ambassador :P But seriously, perhaps Kas was deployed to their destination to spy/keep an eye on things (political meetings are ripe targets for assassins, after all), and is accompanying them back to Skyhold. That sounds sensible to me. :D<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>He's relatively new - not as high ranking as Juliette - but he has a rep for winning and keeping his party alive.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=222817.msg10967182#msg10967182">Quote from: la dame en noir on 09-02-2015, 16:03:11</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I think my girl might have a thing for Ounari men and women &gt;.&gt;<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Maybe Juliette requested the Tankard as part of her entourage.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=222817.msg10967142#msg10967142">Quote from: la dame en noir on 09-02-2015, 15:39:42</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">LMAO I did NOT sign up for this.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I'm just throwing out ideas.&nbsp; The three of us seem to be wanting to do something, and my idea brings the three of us together somehow.<br><br>Did you have something else in mind?<br><br>At some point it would be nice to see Juliette show off those dance moves.&nbsp; <br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>09-02-2015, 16:52:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I see...well, as a framing narrative, it's good. It's a quick, easy way for them all to get all of them together. Although, I do feel somewhat bad for Snorkle...she's got a good concept for a character, and Primarch's disappearance has her kind of in a lurch. If Primarch doesn't reappear by the time we look to start this War Table mission, why not invite her character along as well? Obviously we wouldn't be approving the character, but it gives her something to do with <em>her</em> character, and besides...we need a mage, don't we? :P <br><br>And LOL, you just want to see Juliette "Shake that thang." :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>09-02-2015, 17:20:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well I simply meant that I didn't think my character would be so important. lol<br><br>Juliette is hard to please...but she's always had a fascination with Qunari and their aggressive culture.<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Juggtacular</strong> on <strong>09-02-2015, 17:23:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I guess Kain will be doing...Inquisitor things. Off somewhere...adjudicating on whether flinging goats is a viable battle tactic that the Inquisition should start using, lol.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>09-02-2015, 17:26:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Haha, well...I'm not sure "aggressive" is the right way to describe it...of course, I don't reckon there IS a right way. As Iron Bull would say, "I could explain it but it would include a lot of Qunari words." XD Maybe not aggressive, more like....assertive. Firm. Assured. I don't even know how to describe it properly, haha.<br><br>Lol, well, there's no reason why the Inquisitor couldn't be coming along for the ride as well. :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>09-02-2015, 17:31:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				lol I mean<br><br>the Arishok was....visually appealing and....the way he spoke was...wonderful.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>09-02-2015, 17:35:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Aaah, I see. So, big, muscled guy with a very commanding, very assured and very direct way of speaking. I can imagine that Juliette would like such an individual...no word games, no beating around the bush, no bullshitting, just "This is what I want. Give it to me." After having to deal with two-faced, conniving, backstabbing nobles all day, I can see why she might find a direct attitude very appealing. And, of course, I can see why she would find the well-built physique appealing as well. :P Kas has got the former, since he was raised under the Qun, but apparently unfortunately for him, he's just a human. A peak-condition human, yes, but just a boring old human. So it looks like The Tankard will be getting some company at night, eh? :P :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>09-02-2015, 17:39:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Lol I wouldn't say that just yet. <br><br>Flirting will happen, because that's what she does - though one night stands are hard for her to do with men. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>09-02-2015, 17:43:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I can imagine that one night stands are difficult for her to do at all, given how busy she must be :P :P And, of course, anybody looking to climb into bed with her in Orlais might well be Bards trying to get one over (well, one over PLUS their leg :P ) on her...I think rule number one of politics is "Never Trust Anybody In Orlais." XD <br>But yes! We shall see what happens indeed. XD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Juggtacular</strong> on <strong>09-02-2015, 17:45:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hey! Kain is half Orlesian. So just because that's true doesn't mean...wait, I had a point when I started this.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>09-02-2015, 17:50:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ah, I never said "don't trust anybody FROM Orlais," now did I? :P<br>But I think your point was something along the lines of "Kain is trustworthy..." but he isn't vying for power in the Imperial Court. Or is he?! Did he become Inquisitor just to try and take the Orlesian Throne? PLOT TWIIIIIST. :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>09-02-2015, 18:19:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				We really need more people! D:
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>09-02-2015, 18:22:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I agree! Personally, I like Snorkles character...I don't see why she wouldn't be approved. Maybe one of us should drop Primarch a PM asking what's going on...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>xPeachyPuff</strong> on <strong>09-02-2015, 21:09:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just caught up here. Thanks for trying to include me (:<br><br>Primarch posted in the recruitment thread though, so I think we should probably just be patient for the moment.<br><br>- Rainbow ♥
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>09-02-2015, 22:37:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I saw :-) But yeah, I like the looks of your character, Snorkle! I hope she gets approved :D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>10-02-2015, 06:33:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				So who would like to submit the first mission? lol
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>10-02-2015, 11:57:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I thought we had one, with the whole "escorting Juliette back from a diplomatic mission? Or don't you like that idea? :-)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Primarch</strong> on <strong>11-02-2015, 00:18:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Downtime IC Thread (https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=223393.0)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>11-02-2015, 00:24:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sweet! Unfortunately, I don't think I have the time right now to type up a full intro post, but I shall endeavour to have one done tomorrow at the latest. :D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>11-02-2015, 01:52:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Fffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuudge that took a long time. As far as intro posts go, it's not my best, but it will do. If I need to change any of the details in that post, Primarch, let me know and I'll do it when I get back on later today. :-) 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>11-02-2015, 03:21:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				lol you think too much
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Juggtacular</strong> on <strong>11-02-2015, 03:23:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm probably gonna get something out tonight.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>11-02-2015, 05:39:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				OOO I got done with posts faster than I thought soooo I guess I'll be working on my opening post right after I workout! :D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>11-02-2015, 09:59:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think too much? Is...that a bad thing? XD<br><br>And I saw the IC post, Vin, I'll just let the others post before I post a reply. :-)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>11-02-2015, 15:42:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				To you...probably not
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>11-02-2015, 16:03:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				And now I'm utterly confused as to what you mean. XD Is it a bad thing for you? And what do you mean by "think too much?" Am I doing it now? XD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>11-02-2015, 16:52:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Don't you worry your pretty little head about it.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>11-02-2015, 17:08:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That doesn't help....<br>&gt;.&gt;<br>&lt;.&lt;<br>&gt;.&gt;<br><br>I'm kerfuddled.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>11-02-2015, 19:11:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I have also posted...though it is quite small<br><br>Why did Vin delete his post? D:
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>11-02-2015, 22:42:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm not feeling this game anymore.&nbsp; I'm pulling out now.&nbsp; Good luck with it.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>11-02-2015, 22:52:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ok guys, I just need to figure out what to do with Kas; Dame, Juggs, feel free to post without me for a bit while I get some sort of plan together for Kas. I'm <em>not</em> withdrawing, just taking some time to work out how to include him without it feeling forced. :-) You two do what you gotta do, I'll work on a plan of attack.<br><br>Dame, do you reckon my character would be told to report straight to your character about the success of his mission? It is a diplomatic matter, after all, and she should be appraised of the change of circumstances in the Free Marches, so...once Juliette and Kain are done with the 'Vint, are you ok with Kas appearing to give her a report on his success in Ostwick? :-)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>11-02-2015, 23:53:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sigh why are people leaving?! D:<br><br>We need to do another recruitment. <br><br>@Vergil: Yes - Yes I am :3 You can report to her and her snappy attitude.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>12-02-2015, 00:01:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sweet! And ooh, JohnnyBoy posted his bio...looks like we have a PC Spymaster! :D So once he's posted his intro post, I can post Kas finding and debriefing him, which gives me something to do while Juliette and Kain deal with the 'Vint, then Kas can go chat with Juliette once those two interactions are done...I now have an in! Woo! :D If that's ok with Johnny, of course. If it isn't, then I'll skip straight ahead to Juliette :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>12-02-2015, 00:03:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I lost the Qunari possibility!!! Now she'll never find a man to break her out of her habits!!!!<br>dajfld;jfadsfjasl;fjdalf;a
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>12-02-2015, 00:05:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				LOL, there are now....three male characters to one female. I'm sure she'll find <em>somebody</em> :P If not, there's always the monthly "Men Of The Qun" serial. :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>12-02-2015, 00:09:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				SHE WANTS A QUNARI!!!!<br><br>(well she doesn't know that just yet)<br><br>BUT SHE DOES<br><br>NSFW (http://images.luscious.net/373/lusciousnet_1029928-dragon_age_2-me_1682146019.png) MMM Qunari &lt;3
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>12-02-2015, 00:10:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm....gonna have to dunk my harddrive in bleach. Followed by my brain. :P :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>12-02-2015, 00:12:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				THEN DO IT!<br><br>She is not interested in Humans :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>12-02-2015, 00:14:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Lol, well, to each their own! I hope for her sake that we get a new Qunari joining soon :P <br>Kas isn't really interested in anybody...well, there was this one time with that dwarf, but that was strictly business. :P 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Juggtacular</strong> on <strong>12-02-2015, 00:15:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Too bad for her Kain says. Lol
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>12-02-2015, 00:17:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Qunari have horns to hold on to.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>12-02-2015, 00:20:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				LOL. Not all of them do, but I see your point :P :P 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>12-02-2015, 00:21:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Are you stating the obvious to me as someone who has also played all of the games and loves Qunari lore and culture?<br><br>I HEAR OBVIOUS STATEMENTS!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>12-02-2015, 00:26:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				LAWL, I apologise :P :P On that note, though, I do hope that the games eventually visit a Qunari-controlled location. There's still so much we don't know about the Qunari culture and language...I also want to visit Tevinter in-game. And Inquisition mentions lands to the west "that have never known The Blight," and THAT sounds interesting as well. And then you have "Those Across The Sea," and wherever the Qunari originally came from and who the Kossith are...gah, so much awesome stuff in the DA universe that I want to know about. XD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>12-02-2015, 18:11:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I am so happy to have another Qunari in the game! :3
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>12-02-2015, 18:13:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Haha, I thought you would be :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>12-02-2015, 18:16:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				He joined because of meeeee &lt;3 lol
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>12-02-2015, 18:17:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Lmao, well if that's the case, well done :P :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>12-02-2015, 18:23:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I didn't really do anything though lol
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zaer Darkwail</strong> on <strong>12-02-2015, 18:33:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ok, posted my char to cast....and now where I need post in?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>12-02-2015, 18:36:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh the IC? one sec<br><br>also I'm not really sure how we can go about finding you. Do you want your character to wander into skyhold looking to join the Inquisition? or should we find somewhere around Thedas?<br><br>Edit: Here ya go! :3 Skyhold IC (https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=223393.0)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zaer Darkwail</strong> on <strong>12-02-2015, 18:39:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I mostly thought he just wanders/travels towards Skyhold and in gate goes and asks 'got work for me?'. Not sure how recruitment goes for Inquisition.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>12-02-2015, 18:41:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				lol it can sort of go like that. <br><br>Jugg is the Inquisitor if you want to ask him any questions before posting :3
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>12-02-2015, 18:43:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, I'm assuming that Primarch would want your character, Zaer, to be in Skyhold already to socialise, so I imagine waiting for a war table mission would probably not be a good idea. Maybe write it as if it's his first day in Skyhold or something?&nbsp; And welcome aboard, BTW. :-)<br><br>Although, I would suggest that a random mercenary would not be able to just walk through Skyholds gates unchecked. I mean, the main leaders of The Inquisition reside there, so I imagine security would be a little tighter than that...and if not, it would be a HUGE security issue if they let any Tom Dick and Harry in the heart of the Inquisition...so...perhaps he's made a name for himself as a mercenary, and an Agent of the Inquisition was sent to extend an invitation to visit Skyhold? That sounds plausible enough. Or maybe your character met Kain - the inquisitor - who recruited him directly, though you would have to talk to Juggs about that, since Kain is his character.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Juggtacular</strong> on <strong>12-02-2015, 18:43:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				-stands there in all his Inquisitorial glory, cape just billowing in the wind- Hello.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zaer Darkwail</strong> on <strong>12-02-2015, 18:47:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, fine either with agent (existing one) given invitation to join or met Jugg's char personally as part of mercenary job. Was impressed on the qunari warrior who could charge and bash stuff in but also take mobs upon himself and survive (a one man vanguard unit).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>12-02-2015, 18:52:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				All I know is that Juliette is going to be happy.....
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zaer Darkwail</strong> on <strong>12-02-2015, 22:28:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ok, made post. I assume Jugg's char knows who is knocking on the door so to speak. Also got inspired and wrote short story explain how Kain knows Arisehan.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>13-02-2015, 00:04:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I hope to get a post in today I have to reply to Jugg before he can do anything else. I think someone should interact with your character until then. I'm sorry guys<br><br>this is possibly my worst day ever.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>13-02-2015, 00:07:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Awwww, I hope you're ok, Dame! *friendly pat on the shoulder* <br><br><br>I'm cooking up a post myself, but I kinda want to wait for Johnny to post the Spymasters post; since my character is headed up to meet him, I figure I should let him get his intro post sorted first :-)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zaer Darkwail</strong> on <strong>13-02-2015, 00:09:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ouch, I hope your going to be okay Dame (in the end of the day at least). If need sympathetic ear (or reader/writer) we are around here :).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>13-02-2015, 00:45:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Thanks guys! :3 you're all so sweet!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>13-02-2015, 23:13:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Going to be a slow weekend from me, but I will reply.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Primarch</strong> on <strong>14-02-2015, 01:27:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well I finally got our glorious Commander together. If anybody has anything in mind for a backstory-connection feel free to send me a PM, or post here if there's no need for secrecy.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Juggtacular</strong> on <strong>14-02-2015, 19:17:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Kain would have looked up to him growing up as he's much much younger. Maybe after he was Knighted, Kain was sent on a mission with him as his father and Conner were friends, and he wanted an honest opinion of how his son did in real combat? 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Primarch</strong> on <strong>15-02-2015, 13:17:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That seems likely enough. As the man who would go on to become the Inquisitor he likely received a grading of "He'll do." The highest praise from Conor Stannard.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>15-02-2015, 13:45:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Honestly, I'm having some difficulty thinking about how Kas would know him other than "The guy who commands the military." I mean, as an Assassin, he's more likely to know the Spymaster than the Commander personally, but then, Kas has been in The Inquisition for about eight years, so they've probably crossed paths more than once or twice...I'm thinking that the Commander knows who Kas is, and has likely employed his talents once or twice, but they aren't exactly "Dinner Friends." Haha.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Primarch</strong> on <strong>15-02-2015, 14:20:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I imagine any situation where an assassin would be required would be put forward by the Spymaster anyway, or Conor would speak with the Spymaster directly and let him make suitable arrangements. Conor provides 'hammer' solutions. But yeah, if Kas has been there for about 8 years I imagine they know each others faces. If they've ever been on a mission together they likely could have been chatting and fighting together for weeks or months, depending on how far they had to travel for the job. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>15-02-2015, 14:28:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah...I imagine that The Inquisition would keep Connors field work to a minimum, since if he's taken out or absent then things could go bad in an emergency, but...hmm....perhaps there was one time when the Inquisitions military was required, Connor led the force personally...and a collection of agents - including Kas - were attached to the force for obvious reasons (I mean, you don't send a military force out without its own compliment of spies, after all). That would give them the chance to actually formally meet, and would also mean that Conor would have been required to attend the various agents debriefs and hand out orders accordingly. So, assuming for a moment that that sounds good to you...where would the military have been required in such a way that Conor would be leading the force permanently? Perhaps a border dispute between two sovereign nations, and Conor leading the force to "keep the peace" carried more weight than just a lower-down Captain? <br><br>Of course, that depends on how long Conor has been the Commander...was he Commander when Kas arrived, or is the appointment relatively new?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>16-02-2015, 04:56:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Finally Posted~
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>16-02-2015, 09:57:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ooooh, Juliette is sassy. :P That 'Vint won't be getting by her any time soon :P :P <br>Although, if I was picky, I would mention that you can't have a "Qunari Tal-Vashoth." They're kinda mutually exclusive...of course, the guards might not know that. XD<br><br>But that minor nitpick aside, I liked it. :D Very sassy. :P :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>16-02-2015, 17:38:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Vergil...stop acting like GM. I'm serious.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>16-02-2015, 18:10:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm...not. I'm not saying that you should change the post, I'm just mentioning something I noticed. I didn't say anything negative about it, I just noted the distinction between Qunari and Tal-Vashoth, which is - lore-wise - an important one. I won't do it again if it annoys you, but I don't see how that's "acting like the GM." Last I checked, anybody could point out an error or omission that they noticed in a post without being in a position of authority. The difference is that you can ignore me but you can't ignore Primarch. So...I would stop acting like the GM, if that's what I was doing. But that isn't what I'm doing. I will, however, stop being pedantic. It's a bad habit, I admit, so I apologise. I'll refrain in future.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>16-02-2015, 18:46:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				-deletes post-
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>16-02-2015, 18:48:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*sighs* please yourself.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Juggtacular</strong> on <strong>16-02-2015, 18:59:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Actually Vergil, I kinda feel the need to point out that Tal'vashoth is a blanket term meaning "True Grey". It's a title for <em>anyone</em> who has rejected the Qun regardless of race, because everyone is considered "Qunari" under the Qun. It's just most common with biological Qunari. So to say "Qunari Tal'vashoth" when they haven't seen him yet makes sense. Because if they just said a Tal'vashoth is at the gate, they could have meant a Qunari(like Arisehan), Human(like the Viscount's son), Dwarf, or Elf(like Tallis) if the latter two had abandoned the Qun's ways.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>16-02-2015, 19:12:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Actually...no. Not quite.<br><br>"Vashoth:" Members of the ethnic Qunari race who grew up outside the Qun. They are <em>not</em> referred to as Qunari by the Qunari.<br>"Tal-Vashoth:" Individuals who grew up under the Qun but rebelled or deserted. Usually has connotations of violence and barbarism. They are <em>not</em> referred to as Qunari by the Qunari.<br>"Qunari:" <em>People of the Qun.</em> That is, anybody who grew up a follower of the Qun. You obviously have the predominant Qunari race, but the race itself is not called "Qunari." I, personally, don't think they have a word for the race, since they identify as roles rather than by names. The closest is "Kossith," but Iron Bull makes it clear that the Qunari don't consider themselves Kossith. <br><br>Tal-Vashoth and Qunari are mutually exclusive, since the Qunari are the <em>followers</em> of the Qun, and Tal-Vashoth are those who are rebelling <em>against</em> the Qun.&nbsp; Therefore, Tal-Vashoth are not - by the Qunari's own reckoning, and it's their race we're describing, so they have final say as to definitions - Qunari. <br><br><br>So whilst you're right in saying that under the Qun, all are considered Qunari if they follow the Qun, you're wrong in that "Qunari Tal-Vashoth" is correct since the two are mutually exclusive. It's like saying "capitalist communist" or describing a book as a "Paperback hardback." The two are inherently defined as mutually exclusive. Qunari = Followers of The Qun. Tal-Vashoth = those who rebel against the Qun. Qunari is not the race name, like humans or elves. It's more like....more like a religion. So instead of Human and Qunari, think more like Andrastian and Qunari. That's a better comparison.<br><br>Qunari take <em>great</em> pains to make clear that Tal-Vashoth are <em>not</em> Qunari. It's one or the other, not both.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>16-02-2015, 19:14:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Its like you don't take into account that not everyone knows about the Qunari in Thedas. They're a tricky culture and you're just being picky. I'm trying to get along with you and you strike again. I'll re-post later when I have my sanity back.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>16-02-2015, 19:16:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=222817.msg10987070#msg10987070">Quote from: Vergil Tanner on 16-02-2015, 09:57:06</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Although, if I was picky, I would mention that you can't have a "Qunari Tal-Vashoth." They're kinda mutually exclusive...<strong>of course, the guards might not know that.</strong> XD<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>"trying to get along?" You're completely overreacting to one line in a three line post that <em>also</em> says that I liked the post. Does me commenting on the guards error really warrant you deleting the post and acting like I've just called you several horrible names? No. It's like you're looking for a reason to be pissed off at me. I'm trying to get along with you, and you strike again. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>16-02-2015, 19:19:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				&nbsp;XD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Juggtacular</strong> on <strong>16-02-2015, 19:19:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Your points are valid, but like Noir pointed out, the Inquisition are <em>not</em> the Qunari people, so those rules don't apply to them. They're everyone else essentially. So when they see a person who is a Qunari(big guy, horns, dark skin), they call him a Qunari just like they call a Dwarf a Dwarf. Whether he's Tal'Vashoth, Ben-Hasrath, Vashoth, Serebas or the Arishok. He's still a Qunari biologically.<br><br>If they were back in Par Vollen or Seheron you'd be absolutely correct, he'd just be a Tal'vashoth. But they're at Skyhold. So to differentiate between "Qunari Tal'vashoth"(a Qunari who identifies himself as Tal'vashoth) and any other race of Tal'Vashoth makes sense in the context as the people who said it were human/dwarf/elf guards who didn't devote their life to the Qun and as such don't understand it's many intricacies..
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>16-02-2015, 19:25:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				But why would the guard say "Qunari Tal-Vashoth?" Why not just say "Tal-Vashoth?" If we're going by the normal peoples rules, as I agree we should, most people think of the ethnic Qunari race as well when you say "Tal-Vashoth." I mean, just like a Qunari could be any race, but people still think of the stereotypical big guy with horns, so too would people think of the stereotypical big guy with horns if you said "Tal-Vashoth." So why bother with the distinction, if most people don't know the intricacies, and don't know that any race could be a Tal-Vashoth?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>16-02-2015, 19:27:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Vergil - I&nbsp; would like to point out that the Qunari introduced himself that way and therefore the guard announced him as such. I had to think about how I would've liked the dialogue to go and ultimately just went with the poster said instead of giving myself an unnecessary headache.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>16-02-2015, 19:34:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I just looked a moment ago, and he said "Tal-Vashoth." He didn't say the word Qunari, at least, not that I saw (I could be wrong). But as I said earlier, it's a small matter that I only mentioned off-hand as I thought of it. *shrug* I didn't mean to make a big deal out of it or anything. I'm happy to debate the finer points of the Qunari language and self-identification, but I don't want anybody to think that I was criticising anybody for not making the distinction. That isn't how I meant the comment...the focus of the post was me just expressing glee at how sassily Juliette owned the 'Vint. *shrug*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>16-02-2015, 19:35:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Then this is how it could've gone.<br><br>1. compliment or boast about something funny from a post<br>2. pm the person to ask them if they meant to say that and here is why it may or may not be correct.<br><br>You don't compliment and then slander at the same time. Makes no sense and now i'm distracted from my rp post.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>16-02-2015, 19:40:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I know, I just...don't always think before posting. A flaw, I'll admit. As an off-the-cuff thing, I didn't really put much thought into it....which kinda shows, now I think about it. Heh. Although I don't think slander is - I've just been advised by my Internet Lawyers not to finish that sentence. :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>16-02-2015, 20:28:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				reposted and fixed to calm Vergil's mind.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>16-02-2015, 20:29:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh, hardehardehar. My sides, they are splitting. :P :P Truly, thou wit is a rapier. :P XD<br><br>[ The above is a joke :P ]
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zaer Darkwail</strong> on <strong>16-02-2015, 20:35:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Aha, I did not know about <em>Vashoth</em> term, that would describe my char more exact manner. However I think reason why he calls himself <em>Tal-Vashoth</em> is because he was rejected by the Qunari not to take him (because he did not know who his parents were and Qunari do not want mess up their breeding records with random guys). Also possibly mother's crime, if any, reflects all way to her offspring also so he is labeled <em>Tal-Vashoth</em> (as his birth was a crime by the Qun and thus living is rebellion against Qun and he refuses commit suicide to correct his crime).<br><br>So he is <em>Tal-Vashoth</em> because he lives (and was born outside Qun order or such). He would be <em>Vashoth</em> if he would die. Which makes rather interesting case I think :P.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>16-02-2015, 20:41:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Aaah, nice....very interesting conflict there...I mean, whenever the Qun conflicts with how people in Thedas live is interesting, but to have that kind of conflict in a character...well, he's Vashoth, technically, but also technically Tal-Vashoth. Which one does he identify as, I wonder? And what does he actually think of the Qun? interesting interesting...I look forward to seeing how that conflict pans out! :D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zaer Darkwail</strong> on <strong>16-02-2015, 20:54:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, he follows the Qun but he does not follow it that far as decapitate himself (he is not that zealot on it), so thus he acknowledges himself as <em>Tal-Vashoth</em> because he lives (but if asked does he follow Qun code of ethics he does, expect he applies it much as he can while living as mercenary).<br><br>It was not courage but sense of duty which bound him defend the bridge in the background story I wrote to explain why Kain invited him join Inquisition. Albeit he is used to lifestyle as mercenary, his Qun principles desire him seek place where he has rank and actual meaning. As Qun does not quite work if you do not have rank some sort. So he would start identify himself as Agent of Inquisition than <em>Tal-Vashoth</em> if he's accepted in as agent.<br><br>That's how I go about it inside my head and not 100% sure would it be correct way implement Qun code that manner.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>16-02-2015, 20:57:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hmm....interesting, I must say! Whilst I haven't got my head around the inner workings of the Qun quite yet, I'm working on it, so maybe we could puzzle it out together if we get stuck. :P :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>16-02-2015, 21:01:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I am happy now
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>17-02-2015, 02:42:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sooooo tall @_@
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zaer Darkwail</strong> on <strong>17-02-2015, 03:22:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, you got tall partners in 'to want try' list ;). Albeit two feet height difference is rather large. But he is not muscle of mountain like Iron Bull (just tall).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>17-02-2015, 04:24:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*drool*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>17-02-2015, 16:57:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Whew! Finished! Looking back, I realise that he did say quite a bit, but then...I suppose he <em>is</em> giving a debrief report, so he isn't about to just say one line and stop. Haha. If anybody has any issues with the post, feel free to let me know! ^_^
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>johnnyboyboy</strong> on <strong>19-02-2015, 14:25:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry for not posting frequently. My college told us that we had 5 days to do an assignment that we should have had a month for, but since one of our teachers left before giving it out we were unaware and had to cram it all in Q.Q managed to get it done though so it will be better now :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>19-02-2015, 21:38:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				And how is everyone doing?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zaer Darkwail</strong> on <strong>19-02-2015, 21:40:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Doing fine myself, and waiting on our ambassador to say something in the scene before I post again.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>19-02-2015, 21:58:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Whose the ambassador? *feeling dumb*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Juggtacular</strong> on <strong>19-02-2015, 21:59:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Juliette would be the Ambassador of the Inquisition.&nbsp; &nbsp;;D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>19-02-2015, 22:04:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh<br><br>me?<br><br>Shit *works on post*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Juggtacular</strong> on <strong>19-02-2015, 22:09:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Heheheh. The ambassador of the Inquisition is also it's chief diplomat. So yep, it's you. ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>20-02-2015, 05:47:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				It took me HOURS to make a shitty post guys! :3
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Primarch</strong> on <strong>20-02-2015, 22:48:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Right so folks, first War Table coming before long. If you have a mission in mind you'd like to run, feel free to PM me!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zaer Darkwail</strong> on <strong>22-02-2015, 02:12:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=222817.msg10998201#msg10998201">Quote from: la dame en noir on 20-02-2015, 05:47:16</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">It took me HOURS to make a shitty post guys! :3<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Shame on you! Bend over there, your going get bit....punished&nbsp; &gt;:)<br><br>(btw, love your new avi, <em>delicious</em>)<br><br>Anycase, now waiting Kain to respond Arisehan.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>23-02-2015, 05:49:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I miss you all! Where have you all been? D:
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>23-02-2015, 09:54:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I've just been waiting for somebody else to post...I mean, it's been too few posts since my last reply for me to feel comfortable posting again just yet. *shrug*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>johnnyboyboy</strong> on <strong>23-02-2015, 11:57:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I have already posted a few days ago Vergil :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>23-02-2015, 12:01:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I know, I saw. I'm just wary of posting too frequently in a Group game, just in case a large volume of posts to wade through discourages other people posting. I have a personal limit as to the minimum amount of posts I'll reply after...just a little idiosyncrasy that I have. :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>23-02-2015, 12:32:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm hoping a few more people join this game
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zaer Darkwail</strong> on <strong>23-02-2015, 12:43:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I am waiting on Jugg really to post as Kain a reply to my char greeting really. It would be bit weird for me post out of sequence without waiting Jugg's reply.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>23-02-2015, 13:19:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Excuse me while I go punch the hell out of Jugg.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>johnnyboyboy</strong> on <strong>23-02-2015, 14:09:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				AH sorry Vergil i thought you were waiting for me :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>23-02-2015, 14:11:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Haha, it's ok, don't worry. I'm just waiting for some more posts between my own so I don't feel like I'm tearing off ahead on my own, y'know? :-) :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>24-02-2015, 15:44:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				There we go! I kinda assumed that Kas was being dismissed by Alec, so I didn't have Kas follow him. I also assumed that Juliette was gonna reach her office uninterrupted (considering that she ended her post by saying that she was going there and it is literally a thirty second walk from the Great Hall, if that), but if anybody has any issues with my post, please let me know so I can alter it accordingly. :-) ^_^
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>01-03-2015, 08:38:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh no! please don't die rp D:
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>01-03-2015, 13:53:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm still knocking around. I'm just waiting for some replies to my post. *shrug*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zaer Darkwail</strong> on <strong>02-03-2015, 16:55:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*rubs the shock paddles*<br><br>"Clear!"<br><br>*gives shock to the game to attempt return it's pulse and life*<br><br>*listens*<br><br>"No pulse yet! Again!"<br><br>&lt;more serious&gt;<br><br>Yeah, I hope this game does not die but much cannot be done if GM and some players are absent :(
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Juggtacular</strong> on <strong>02-03-2015, 16:57:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Gonna respond to you today, Zaer.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zaer Darkwail</strong> on <strong>02-03-2015, 17:00:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ah, nice :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>la dame en noir</strong> on <strong>02-03-2015, 17:37:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				&lt;3
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Primarch</strong> on <strong>02-03-2015, 22:50:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think its time for me to face a hard truth, I no longer want to run this game. Between the drop outs, the drama before we even started and quite honestly just my own shifting interests I simply no longer have an interest. I can only apologise. If any of you wish to take over or if you want to run it as a group, you have my full support and best wishes. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zaer Darkwail</strong> on <strong>02-03-2015, 23:06:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh, ouch :(. Well myself I have hands full as GM as I just started Star Wars themed freeform group game, so someone else needs take reigns.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Skyhold - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vergil Tanner</strong> on <strong>02-03-2015, 23:08:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, I can't do it. I have too much on my plate between RL commitments and GMing We Could Be Heroes to be fair to this game. Would if I could, but alas, I can't.
			</dd>
		</dl>
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