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							Sorry about the title... nothing else came to me... I mus apologize to any one who doesn't like Guild Wars; like me, I hate that game!<br>
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					<img src="images/sand/misc/quote_icon.png" alt="Quote" title="Quote" dm0mdclc5=""> Originally Posted by <strong>Renrik</strong>
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				<div class="message">Hell, let's have another guild war. The Mob's up again, and the goblins have their own army. The gufis are still around, and I'm sure we can drum up a few more armies.</div>
			
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				<div class="message">That sounds like some serious fun. I don't know how it was done last time, but doing it as covertly as possible is always awesome, having random hits on each side as opposed to all out war will be brilliant.</div>
			
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				<div class="message">I can supply a random skeleton army. Except they'd be cool intelligent skeletons, not brainless skeletons. Well they would be brainless, but they'd still be intelligent. You know what I mean.</div>
			
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				<div class="message">I like this idea, mainly because I've been thinking of forming just such a guild lately. I still need to introduce it's main character and assemble the guild from the grounds up, however. But once it's done I'll be ready to war for control of the Town <img src="images/smilies/stick/amused.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Amused" class="inlineimg" dm0mdclc5=""></div>
			
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</div>So that's the general idea, just needs some planning into it.<br>
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Also, if you want your "guild" involved, sign up!<br>
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Traven for one can throw in a fair number of minions for the Mob.
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							Aercath's army of the undead will be involved, but their allegiance will have to wait until players reveal themselves. They'll side with the revolutionary force, if this comes down to a revolution. If it's over somethign else, they'll side with the guild(s) they believe to be the least oppressive without being murderous.<br>
EDIT: His army of undead conatins at least 12,000 intelligent undead (some of them probably with class levels of their own, especially the mummies) and 8,000 mindless skeletons and zombies for cannon fodder, essentially. However, Aercath loves his undead and wants as few of them as possible to be hurt in the battle, so the full force will likely not be brought to war.
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							Aercath and Destro could side with each other. Both have undead, both are liches... It could work!
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</div>The solution to both problems is very simple. Only send one at a time, and make sure they've got properly maintained joints.<img src="images/smilies/smallstick/smallbiggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Small Big Grin" class="inlineimg" dm0mdclc5="">
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</div>An innocent orphanage filled with children orphaned by the numerous god attacks... I think not!<br>
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See "The Deathkeep" for their introduction. Quite covert, I'd say. Now to wait for other armies to make the first move.</div>
			
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</div>I'd say probably not. And before you ask, my opinion has absolutely <i>nothing </i>to do with the fact that Vael makes all my avatars. Nothing I tell you!<br>
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all are up for hire to different guilds.<br>
Price Negotiable. Come to the Thri-Kreen village.<br>
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Now you all know where mine is!<br>
Its just that, mine are all at least 10th level.<br>
In about a week, the less able Thri-Kreen will arrive.<br>
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							Before long, Squads alpha-through-epsilon will be ready fer war. Or whatever may happen in the 'guild wars.' Numbering only fifty thri-kreen, however, I fear they may be at a disadvantage. But then again, they all have class levels...<br>
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							We do rock Orange Zergling don't we?<br>
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</div>Please do, as this is basically the event tracking thread. So also, any important events that take place should also be linked to.
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							I'm sure this will heat up soon. One guild will attack another guild, and the whole thing will blow up as people take sides. It'll be nice.<br>
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So, if NPCs start getting caught in the crossfire, I may try to start that idea up again.  They'd probably side with the Gufis in this fight, unless they start trying to arrest the NPCs.<br>
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<a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/angel.htm#angelSolar" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Case and point</a>
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I could start with a show of force against the NPC's and it can move from there but I'm sure there are better ideas than that. Besides, I've been murdering NPC's for weeks and no one's really noticed.
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							I really think all these guilds should have some goals and motives. I might be completely wrong, but to me it seems like most of them are just here to randomly slaughter. Is nothing driving anyone forward?<br>
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</div>I've got a couple of them tailing you through the streets all sneaky-like.<br>
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Oh, and the skeletons goal is revenge. They're all dead members of armies from long ago, given sentience by excess magical energy. They want revenge on the people who caused them to die needlessly, and they're suspicious of everyone, having been dead so long. Anyone could be a descendant of the commanders! Not that anyone is, but that's what they think.
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Oh, and the skeletons goal is revenge. They're all dead members of armies from long ago, given sentience by excess magical energy. They want revenge on the people who caused them to die needlessly, and they're suspicious of everyone, having been dead so long. Anyone could be a descendant of the commanders! Not that anyone is, but that's what they think.</div>
			
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Vael's<br>
Exachix's ((If I can join...))<br>
flabbicus'<br>
Traven's ((Hmm... Can't find link for place thing))<br>
Thri-Kreen_DK's<br>
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</div>Forgot mine. And on the topic of motives, my guild's is to find and recover Kekichwe. In which, after having no success, one of them -with a particularily violant and rebellious nature- will react violantly, thus dragging their squad into it... which drags the rest of them into it. How, when, or where this will spark, I have no clue.
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My guild have a goal. We seek to overthrow the rulers of the Town and take their place. That's what we're working for. So far we don't care about any of the other guilds, because unless they actively get in our way, why should we bother wasting resources on them?<br>
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</div>Ah yes. This is my guild's current motives/goals:<br>
1) Kill off anyone who has learned 'too much' from Vael.<br>
2) Perhaps make some covert work on their goal to kill the gods (though unlikely)<br>
But the main reason they will be getting in is because they are going to be helping out Traven in return for his help.<br>
They are part of my storyline, so they would have shown even if this event had come up.
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				<div class="message">My Guild's objectives:<br>
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1) Have fun. This is done by killing randomers.<br>
2) Have fun. This is done by tourturing randomers.<br>
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</div>Uh the Mafia's objectives are to have fun, kill the GUFI's, follow the Don, kill the GUFI's, reinstate their hold on the Town's power, kill the GUFI's, and lastly to kill the GUFI's
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Alright, I have a suggestion for how we might run this. There will be certain areas that the Guilds try to get a hold of, such as the slums, the docks, the junkyard, the woods, the undercity...It will result in a sort of "Turf War" that most citizens will feel. But that's just a suggestion and I have no real preference towards it.
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							My guild (I need a name) might just join the mafia, then ;)<br>
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							Most of my soldiers have short-swords and they also have short-spears for ranged weapons.<br>
There are a few archer squads who use long-bows and 1/8th of the army are some sort of spell-caster and that means 1000 CR7+ mages armed with fire-balls and cones of cold.<br>
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							The GSA has multiple types of soldiers. Almost all dress in plain clothes, but the vast majority also wear a grey belt or sash. Most are the low-ranking cutter types. They've got long knives and no armor, for the most part, and the majority have access to crossbows. The ones above them have short swords and light crossbows. Some wear red armbands to signify their rank.<br>
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Our goal is to install monstrous creatures on the local government and to get our political and social goals met. We currently will not go to war simply for the sake of capturing turf. We remain a defensive force ready to turn offensive at any time. We will attempt to gain influence through peaceful protest and politics until such a time that it is infeasable to do so (which is probably pretty soon.)<br>
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Our current turf is the goblinoid area of the slums, but we have safehouses, opertives, and informants all over the city. We also have a hold on the docks, but not strong enough to claim them as turf.
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							Actually, the Thri-Kreen would probably win due to having large numbers of clerics who worship Morak, their god.<br>
With spells that kill 20d4 HD of undead, I think that the undead would lose.<br>
Aswell, there is the obvious "turn undead," everyones best friend.<br>
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My Thri-Kreen rely on the fact that they're mercenaries, and they can chicken out wenever they want. Without pay of course.<br>
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Oh, and it also relies on the fact that if anyone directly attacks them, they cn just fall back to their fort and smile and be happy about the fact that the ground underneath (though not the tunnels) is under the effect of a permanent anti-magic field. (no earthquakes)<br>
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</div>Mummies. What class levels do mummies usually take? Cleric. Plus, ECL 60-something Dread Necromancer can out-turn clerics. Bolster-city+high saves=Cleric defense.<br>
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3.5 rules are not freeform. Town is a freeform game. Therefore, town is not under 3.5 rules.<br>
Technically, I could have a mouse which could not be killed by all of the guilds put together, despite it being an utterly normal mouse. Everyone is the same power level. You all have a chance to try, and a chance to react.<br>
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</div>Really? I have a Divine Rank of 21? SWEET!<br>
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Oh, Earin does have a point, but in addition, would it kill to keep the power levels down at all? Traven's my highest and he's 25ish, and that sort of power level should only be reserved for leaders/best warriors deal. In other words, I would prefer no ECL 60-something Dread Necromancers running around.
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3.5 rules are not freeform. Town is a freeform game. Therefore, town is not under 3.5 rules.<br>
Technically, I could have a mouse which could not be killed by all of the guilds put together, despite it being an utterly normal mouse. Everyone is the same power level. You all have a chance to try, and a chance to react.<br>
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</div>I'm just pointing out why it will make sense when we bolster against most turn attempts. Becuase the mouse thing occuring would be inane. Undead resisting the attaks of clerics through their own magic makes perfect sense.<br>
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							Well, we fought a minor guild war with the dwarves. Of course, it was incredibly short. They attacked some warehouse in our district, I don't know why, and then retreated with heavy casualties. We investigated the warehouse but found nobody there who could have inflict those casualties, and our own men were inactive for all of the battle save for the end, when they retreated and we started sniping at them. After that, they sent a group into the slums, which we ambushed and killed. Meanwhile, killed a few of the sabateurs they had sent to our HQ, having sustained moderate casualties from the transaction. They retreated a short while ago, going to the mountains, where our allies are keeping an eye on them.<br>
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							This still needs somethign catasrophic to set it off. I've been thinking of a way to do that:<br>
Aercath moves for an alliance with the mafia in the wake of Rilik's death. K'shakh moves for an alliance with the GSA on Aercath's behalf. Undead, Mafia, GSA. Massive, three-armed alliance with the will and very possible the means to take over the entire town. The Mafia don't want those damn coppers in the way, the GSA want equal rights their people aren't getting in the town, and Aercath just doesn't like leadership of any form. Anyone wanting to overthrow a town government would set up camp with our side, any "loyalist" factions would theoretically band together to oppose us.
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							I like the idea above. The GSA has no qualms about allying with the Mob, because the MOb doesn;t exist, and because the MOb is at least honest about begin criminals (unlike the leadership of the town, who the GSA have always regarded as self-sanctioned criminals in disguise, having gained control in the First Guild War.) <br>
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							How many goblins would want to have their soulds pulled back when they're brought back (sentient undead) and how many would just want their bodies animated (mindless undead). The death keep would welcome both. Mindless are nicer, since we don't really care when they die (they have literally no minds and cannot feel pain), but intelligent undead can actually be used as things besides gigantic number-advantage meatshields.<br>
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The Undead have met the DH alliance twice in battle, thus far, once with K'shakh and a small contingent of mindless undead managing to rout a sizable dwarven force and cause up to five-hundred casualties, the second time when they attacked the deathkeep, wherein we caused at least five-thousand casualties when we used our flying castle as a weapon and crushed 5,000 human soldiers. More were probably killed in the horrendous onslaught of spells cast by mages. Any corpses of the second battle were annihilated by the effective nuclear explosion created by the undead to end the battle. The corpses of the 500 dwarves were raised and sent as messengers before being re-slain. <br>
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</div>In 401 B.C.E. 10,000 Greek mercenaries under the general known as Cyrus engaged in pitched battles, witnessed untold horrors, and began a desperate march across the desert, over raging rivers, and into the jaws of hell itself. They fought an army vastly outnumbering them, and broke even.<br>
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</div>They are if it involves overthrowing a government... But that's because those fights ussually lead to a complete change in society, and a change in society is mentioned in the history books. <img src="images/smilies/smallstick/smalltongue.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Small Tongue" class="inlineimg" l1fokaf49=""><br>
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							That will be a problem. The essential article of the treaty is that assaults on the Goblins cease. In fact, we'd want it so no soldier in your forces entered the slums on any condition. If one does, it will be considered an act of war, violating the treaty and returning undead hostilities at you. If any Goblin is harmed by a dwarf, the treaty will also probably be voided (unless, say, a Goblin shoots a dwarf non-fatally with a crossbow and the dwarf defends himself, we don't begrudge you that.) Any conflict which you initiate, verbally or physically, though, will void the treaty. <br>
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							There are 9000 Thri-Kreen, over 3000 over lvl 10, but this is just a small Thri-Kreen villiage.<br>
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But still against the point.<br>
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							I've decided that Gent cannot profit by waging war on another faction. Instead, he will be offering weapons, armor and mercenaries to the varying armies.<br>
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