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	Lu (China)<br>
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	Roma<br>
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			Kingdom/Chiefdom/Tribe/Nomadic Peoples Name: The Roman Republic<br>
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			Kingdom/Chiefdom/Tribe/Nomadic Peoples Name : Carthaginian Empire<br>
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					<div class="bbWrapper">Kingdom/Chiefdom/Tribe/Nomadic Peoples Name (If you choose Tribes/Chiefdom/Nomadic Peoples we will not list them and you have to find the name yourselves as there is too many to list): The High Chiefdom of the Franks<br>
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	Two other major cities: The other two major towns or Goltii and Maridii, though they are much smaller than Arvidii.&nbsp;<br>
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			Should I just give you the most they could possibly buy? because there is no need to sustain an army unless you think you are threatened, especially if it's not your own people.&nbsp;
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			Kingdom/Chiefdom/Tribe/Nomadic Peoples Name (If you choose Tribes/Chiefdom/Nomadic Peoples we will not list them and you have to find the name yourselves as there is too many to list): The High Chiefdom of the Franks<br>
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			Capital/Area (If you are not a kingdom/chiefdom, please put your general area): The Capital is Arvidii.<br>
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			Kingdom/Chiefdom/Tribe/Nomadic Peoples Name: Odrysian Kingdom<br>
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			Population Size: 605,000<br>
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			Im feeling like some people are overestimating the populations of their regions during this time frame. For example, Carthage was one of the largest Mediterranean empires of this specific time and I believe it was given a reasonable population. Egypt for example was similar in total land mass at this time with what was likely a slightly larger population due to the fact the Nile gave them lots of surplus in food, however, nothing close to the 6.5 million stated above considering the whole of China at this time is only aroung 15 million and its easily five times the size of Egypt with a much higher population density.<br>
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	&nbsp; I understand your frustration, especially with this site, unrealism in historical roleplay is rampant and bugs the hell out of me. But with civilizations with no population estimates within 50 years, it is VERY hard to estimate. You make some good points here, and we will try to enforce them, but then again, it is a game. We cannot be entirely too strict or else we lose the fun. But we will try and make people tone it down a little. Thank you for your comment.&nbsp;<br>
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			&nbsp; I understand your frustration, especially with this site, unrealism in historical roleplay is rampant and bugs the hell out of me. But with civilizations with no population estimates within 50 years, it is VERY hard to estimate. You make some good points here, and we will try to enforce them, but then again, it is a game. We cannot be entirely too strict or else we lose the fun. But we will try and make people tone it down a little. Thank you for your comment.&nbsp;<br>
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	The Etruscan League/Etruscan Kingdom<br>
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	Italy, Western/Northwestern Italy and then some of Southwestern Italy<br>
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	Two other major cities:&nbsp;<br>
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	Arretia, Caisra<br>
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	Mostly unknown (I looked in quite a few places), but I'd be willing to guess a couple million perhaps, reaching towards 4 million, 5 at best,&nbsp;or lower (considering there were 150-170 million people living in the world at this time), but we are quite an old and prosperous civilization.<br>
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	300,000 Hoplites - Capable of forming Phalanx<br>
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	50 Ramming/Boarding Ships<br>
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	35 Archer Ships<br>
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			Kingdom/Chiefdom/Tribe/Nomadic Peoples Name (If you choose Tribes/Chiefdom/Nomadic Peoples we will not list them and you have to find the name yourselves as there is too many to list):<br>
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			The Etruscan League/Etruscan Kingdom<br>
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			Italy, Western/Northwestern Italy and then some of Southwestern Italy<br>
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			Two other major cities:&nbsp;<br>
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			Arretia, Caisra<br>
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			Mostly unknown (I looked in quite a few places), but I'd be willing to guess a couple million perhaps, reaching towards 4 million, 5 at best,&nbsp;or lower (considering there were 150-170 million people living in the world at this time), but we are quite an old and prosperous civilization.<br>
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			The government of the Etruscan League isn't really specified, but I'd be willing to shoot for monarchy/empire, you know.<br>
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			Specialities/Trades (Basically, what your nation is famous for, or does mainly. For instance Egypt is mainly agrarian, and Carthage/Phoenicia are mainly Ship builders or merchants):<br>
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			We're sometimes&nbsp;known for art, music, and having strong militaries - however, what we're primarily known for is being excellent at seafaring and trading, so much so that we were &nbsp;considered heavy competitors with the likes of Greece and Rome. It is said that we were so good at trading that the Greeks hired pirates to sink some of our vessels, though no one actually knows. &nbsp;We also have a very isolate language which not many people speak.&nbsp;<br>
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			Main Exports: Grain, Pottery, Bronze,&nbsp;Arms &amp; Armor, Wine, Timber, Iron<br>
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			Army Size (Please list Cavalry, Infantry, and Specialty weapons such as Ballistas or War elephants. We know this is going to be mainly estimation, please estimate fairly for the time and your kingdom, this is meant to semi-realistic):<br>
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			The Etruscans have a very long military tradition, have taken quite a bit of tips from the Greek,&nbsp;and are equipped with the following (mostly estimation):<br>
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<br>
			UNITS WITH ADAPTED IRON ARMOR: HOPLITES, SWORDSMEN<br>
<br>
<br>
			UNITS WITH BRONZE ARMOR: JAVELIN-HURLERS, MEN MANNING BALLISTAE, CATAPULTS, AND SIEGE TOWERS<br>
<br>
<br>
			300,000 Hoplites - Capable of forming Phalanx<br>
<br>
<br>
			100,000 Javelin-Hurlers<br>
<br>
<br>
			150,000 Bowmen<br>
<br>
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			65,000 Swordsmen<br>
<br>
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			45,000 Chariot-Archers<br>
<br>
<br>
			150 Ballistae<br>
<br>
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			100 Catapults<br>
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			50 Siege Towers<br>
<br>
<br>
			NAVY:<br>
<br>
<br>
			50 Ramming/Boarding Ships<br>
<br>
<br>
			35 Archer Ships<br>
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			(quite simple actually)<br>
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	I think you have vastly overestimated both the size of the Etruscan Leagues population and military. The Italian Peninsula as a whole at this time had possibly 2 million people from the alps to the tip of the peninsula at this time and militaries rarely exceed 5% of the nations population unless it is a very strong warrior or nomadic culture.<br>
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			I think you have vastly overestimated both the size of the Etruscan Leagues population and military. The Italian Peninsula as a whole at this time had possibly 2 million people from the alps to the tip of the peninsula at this time and militaries rarely exceed 5% of the nations population unless it is a very strong warrior or nomadic culture.<br>
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	Not a lot of people really look into the times of antiquity so trust me, I don't blame you for not being able to give an accurate guess of a population or military size. If you look at the person who made the roman republic on page 1 that would likely be roughly the same for you.<br>
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			Not a lot of people really look into the times of antiquity so trust me, I don't blame you for not being able to give an accurate guess of a population or military size. If you look at the person who made the roman republic on page 1 that would likely be roughly the same for you.<br>
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	Alright, I suppose I'll RP with those numbers then. By the way, if you're interested in historical RP's, I have an RP called Knights &amp; Turnips located in the 1 on 1 section of RP's, you might wanna check it out~<br>
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	Two other major cities: &nbsp;Dion, Pydna<br>
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	Population Size (Estimate if you need): 690,000<br>
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	Government Type: Monarchy<br>
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	Specialities/Trades (Basically, what your nation is famous for, or does mainly. For instance Egypt is mainly agrarian, and Carthage/Phoenicia are mainly Ship builders or merchants): &nbsp;Are a militaristic kingdom that still have the tactics used by Alexander the great. They have fought in plains, hills, mountains, deserts, and at sea. They still have a majority of the experienced soldiers that have been from alexander's campaign.<br>
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	Main Exports: Pottery, fish, and copper<br>
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	Army Size:<br>
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	99,000 in total:<br>
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	9,000 companions<br>
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	3,000 Hypaspists<br>
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	44,000 hoplites<br>
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	18,000 peltast<br>
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	14,000 archers<br>
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	300 gastraphetes (crossbow men and yes this is legit)<br>
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	1,200 Companion cavalry<br>
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	3,300 Thessalian cavalry<br>
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	6,000 light cavalry<br>
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			Kingdom: Macedonia<br>
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			Capital/Area (If you are not a kingdom/chiefdom, please put your general area): Pella<br>
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			Two other major cities: &nbsp;Dion, Pydna<br>
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			Population Size (Estimate if you need): 690,00<br>
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			Government Type: Monarchy<br>
<br>
<br>
			Specialities/Trades (Basically, what your nation is famous for, or does mainly. For instance Egypt is mainly agrarian, and Carthage/Phoenicia are mainly Ship builders or merchants): &nbsp;Are a militaristic kingdom that still have the tactics used by Alexander the great. They have fought in plains, hills, mountains, deserts, and at sea. They still have a majority of the experienced soldiers that have from alexander's campaign.<br>
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			Main Exports: Pottery, fish, and copper<br>
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			Army Size:<br>
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			99,000 in total:<br>
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			9,000 companions<br>
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			3,000 Hypaspists<br>
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			44,000 hoplites<br>
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			18,000 peltast<br>
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			14,000 archers<br>
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			300 gastraphetes (crossbow men and yes this is legit)<br>
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			1,200 Companion cavalry<br>
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			3,300 Thessalian cavalry<br>
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			6,000 light cavalry<br>
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			Navy:<br>
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			5,000 sailors<br>
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			122 triremes
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			Kingdom/Chiefdom/Tribe/Nomadic Peoples Name (If you choose Tribes/Chiefdom/Nomadic Peoples we will not list them and you have to find the name yourselves as there is too many to list):<br>
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			The Etruscan League/Etruscan Kingdom<br>
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			Italy, Western/Northwestern Italy and then some of Southwestern Italy<br>
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			Two other major cities:&nbsp;<br>
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			Arretia, Caisra<br>
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			Mostly unknown (I looked in quite a few places), but I'd be willing to guess a couple million perhaps, reaching towards 4 million, 5 at best,&nbsp;or lower (considering there were 150-170 million people living in the world at this time), but we are quite an old and prosperous civilization.<br>
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			The government of the Etruscan League isn't really specified, but I'd be willing to shoot for monarchy/empire, you know.<br>
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			We're sometimes&nbsp;known for art, music, and having strong militaries - however, what we're primarily known for is being excellent at seafaring and trading, so much so that we were &nbsp;considered heavy competitors with the likes of Greece and Rome. It is said that we were so good at trading that the Greeks hired pirates to sink some of our vessels, though no one actually knows. &nbsp;We also have a very isolate language which not many people speak.&nbsp;<br>
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			Main Exports: Grain, Pottery, Bronze,&nbsp;Arms &amp; Armor, Wine, Timber, Iron<br>
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			UNITS WITH ADAPTED IRON ARMOR: HOPLITES, SWORDSMEN<br>
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			UNITS WITH BRONZE ARMOR: JAVELIN-HURLERS, MEN MANNING BALLISTAE, CATAPULTS, AND SIEGE TOWERS<br>
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			300,000 Hoplites - Capable of forming Phalanx<br>
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			100,000 Javelin-Hurlers<br>
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			150,000 Bowmen<br>
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			65,000 Swordsmen<br>
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			150 Ballistae<br>
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			100 Catapults<br>
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			35 Archer Ships<br>
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	Lower your population, and your entire army is a mess. You have much less troops and not as many war machines. I'd say cutting back about 2/3s or so would make that acceptable&nbsp;</div>
				
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			Well it looks good but you are currently a vassel of Macedonia. If you want to revolt against them that is fine but you will have to deal with the Macedonian player if one ever shows up.<br>
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	Forgot to respond to this. The Odrysian Kingdom seperated from Macedonia just like all of its previously conquered lands due to Alexander's death. When Alexander died' Macedonia was reduced to it's origional size, possibly slightly larger, but this is a topic that has been debated by scholars about if they still held onto a few of the city states south of them or if they didn't really have the strength at the time to really control them.</div>
				
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					<div class="bbWrapper">Kingdom/Chiefdom/Tribe/Nomadic Peoples Name (If you choose Tribes/Chiefdom/Nomadic Peoples we will not list them and you have to find the name yourselves as there is too many to list):&nbsp;<b>Satrapy of Babylonia</b><br>
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	<b>Onagers/Catapults-12</b><br>
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			Forgot to respond to this. The Odrysian Kingdom seperated from Macedonia just like all of its previously conquered lands due to Alexander's death. When Alexander died' Macedonia was reduced to it's origional size, possibly slightly larger, but this is a topic that has been debated by scholars about if they still held onto a few of the city states south of them or if they didn't really have the strength at the time to really control them.
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	Incorrect, it was partially led by regents until the fracturing of states during the 310s BC. It was sepereated into semi-autnomous satrapies, but they were still incorporated territories of Macedonia. The Odrysian kingdom however was a client state of Macedonia, it could declare it's autonomy from Macedonia, but the Macedonians would, at this time, be able to crush such an insurgency without a heart beat unless the Macedonians weaken and the Odrysians start building up.&nbsp;</div>
				
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			Incorrect, it was partially led by regents until the fracturing of states during the 310s BC. It was sepereated into semi-autnomous satrapies, but they were still incorporated territories of Macedonia. The Odrysian kingdom however was a client state of Macedonia, it could declare it's autonomy from Macedonia, but the Macedonians would, at this time, be able to crush such an insurgency without a heart beat unless the Macedonians weaken and the Odrysians start building up.&nbsp;
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	The Etruscan League/Etruscan Kingdom<br>
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	Italy, Western/Northwestern Italy and then some of Southwestern Italy<br>
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	We're sometimes&nbsp;known for art, music, and having strong militaries - however, what we're primarily known for is being excellent at seafaring and trading, so much so that we were &nbsp;considered heavy competitors with the likes of Greece and Rome. It is said that we were so good at trading that the Greeks hired pirates to sink some of our vessels, though no one actually knows. &nbsp;We also have a very isolate language which not many people speak.&nbsp;<br>
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	Main Exports: Grain, Pottery, Bronze,&nbsp;Arms &amp; Armor, Wine, Timber, Iron<br>
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	UNITS WITH ADAPTED IRON ARMOR: HOPLITES, SWORDSMEN<br>
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	UNITS WITH BRONZE ARMOR: JAVELIN-HURLERS, MEN MANNING BALLISTAE, CATAPULTS, AND SIEGE TOWERS<br>
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	Total: 80,050 men<br>
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			<span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><u><i><b><span style="font-size: 26px">Kingdom of Macedonia</span></b></i></u></span><br>
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			Army Size:<br>
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			99,000 in total:<br>
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			9,000 companions<br>
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			3,000 Hypaspists<br>
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			44,000 hoplites<br>
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			18,000 peltast<br>
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			14,000 archers<br>
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			300 gastraphetes (crossbow men and yes this is legit)<br>
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			1,200 Companion cavalry<br>
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			3,300 Thessalian cavalry<br>
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			6,000 light cavalry<br>
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			Navy:<br>
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			5,000 sailors<br>
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			122 triremes<br>
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			<span style="font-size: 16px"><b>Internal:</b></span><br>
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<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Within three years after alexander's&nbsp;death, many of his generals scatter to claim parts of his glorious&nbsp;empire.Antipater&nbsp;who was appointed as regent of the macedonian kingdom has now taken full control after the unfortunate death of Alexander. Luckily enough about 1/4 of alexander's&nbsp;troops return with their loyalty intact to Macedonia, however the rest have turned traitors and joined the other pretenders. Macedonia is somewhat weak after its long funding of alexander's&nbsp;campaign, however its military is still strong and will be utilized to contain whatever control it has in greece.<br>
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<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Macedonia will send diplomats down to the south and to check the loyalties of all city-states, if any show signs of disloyalty they will be met with an army at their doors. Those who still show signs of loyalty will be given a reward for supporting Alexander's great campaign.<br>
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<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Veterans of Alexander's campaign will be given the task to help drill and discipline the inexperienced soldiers.<br>
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<li data-xf-list-type="ul">A search for more suitable mining area's will be of importance.<br>
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<li data-xf-list-type="ul">More farms to be established<br>
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<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Train 500 hoplites<br>
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<li data-xf-list-type="ul">The funeral of alexander will be put in public in a military parade, there will also be a large statue dedicated to him.<br>
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<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Send an army of 20,000 hoplites, 2,000 peltast, 1,000 archers, and 3,000 light cavalry to be sent to the eastern border. Also send 20,000 hoplites, 1,000 companion cavalry, 7,000 archers, 3,000 light cavalry, and 8,000 peltast to the south and await for the answers of the city-states.<br>
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<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-size: 12px">Send a message to all Generals that have disgracefully taken parts of Alexanders lands that they are to show their loyalty by coming to the capital city and swear allegiance to macedonia once again. If they don't comply they will be announced as traitors and may the gods curse them for their betrayal and traitorous acts.</span><br>
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					<div class="bbWrapper">Kingdom/Chiefdom/Tribe/Nomadic Peoples Name (If you choose Tribes/Chiefdom/Nomadic Peoples we will not list them and you have to find the name yourselves as there is too many to list): Massilia<br>
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	Capital/Area (If you are not a kingdom/chiefdom, please put your general area): Modern day Marseille in France, capital is Massilia<br>
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	Two other major cities: None<br>
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	Population Size (Estimate if you need): 6,000<br>
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	Government Type: Aristocratic Republic (Oligarchy)<br>
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	Specialities/Trades (Basically, what your nation is famous for, or does mainly. For instance Egypt is mainly agrarian, and Carthage/Phoenicia are mainly Ship builders or merchants): A local&nbsp;trade power, famous for being a middleman between Gaul and Rome.&nbsp;<br>
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	Main Exports:&nbsp;<span style="color: rgb(39,42,52)">Wine, salted pork and fish, ar</span><span style="color: rgb(39,42,52)">omic and medicinal plants, coral, and cork</span><br>
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	200 Hoplites<br>
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