[Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion
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				Title: <strong>[Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>19-06-2009, 14:30:39</strong>
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				Here's OOC discussion.&nbsp; I'll keep a list of the game threads here as well<br><br><strong>Thread List and Important Pages</strong><br>Wiki Page (http://elliquiy.com/wiki/Private:Beyond_Hogwarts)<br>Character Profiles (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39841.0)<br>New Year's Beginning (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=40004.0) IC<br>Fox Dorm (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=42857.0) IC<br>Grounds/Island (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=42919.0) IC<br>Castle (in General) (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=43774.0) IC<br>Offices (NPC Teachers) (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=46833.0) IC<br>Herbology Class (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=47757.0) IC<br>DADA Class/Office (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=47754.0) IC
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>20-06-2009, 22:18:56</strong>
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				Three approved characters, one posted.&nbsp; Once we get four, I'll set up an IC thread.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>20-06-2009, 22:27:20</strong>
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				Make that two posted&nbsp; :-)&nbsp; Although I may edit, since the temptation to make Vince a former inmate of Beauxbatons instead is quite strong.&nbsp; (Which would raise the question of what the Beauxbatons equivalent of Slytherin House might have been...)
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>20-06-2009, 22:49:27</strong>
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				isn't that an all girl school? (thank god for google the the last time I read harry potter was the last book the week it was released)
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>20-06-2009, 23:17:30</strong>
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				I believe it is not, but that's how they portrayed it in the movies...just as Durmstrang is not all-boys.&nbsp; However, I may be in error because while I've enjoyed the books, I haven't gone over them with a fine-toothed comb.<br><br>And in any event, if it suits our GM's purposes to say things have changed in years since, then they might have done so.&nbsp; ;D<br><br>UPDATE: I double-checked the wiki.&nbsp; The books <em>do</em> apparently make references to male students at Beaxbatons.&nbsp; Odds are, there are female students from Durmstrang as well.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>21-06-2009, 04:32:36</strong>
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				Yep, Beauxbatons and Durmstrang are mixed.&nbsp; <em>Goblet</em> had Beauxbatons bringing both genders to the tournament (hardcover, U.S. edition: pp. 243 ["A boy in pale blue robes"], 244 ["about a dozen boys and girls"]).&nbsp; Durmstrang's less obvious, but on p. 257 it states "said one of the other Durmstrang boys" (implying that not all the students were boys) and p. 258 states "The boy with food all down his front nudged the girl next to him and pointed openly at Harry's forehead."&nbsp; Since the Durmstrang students were traveling in a pack, presumably the nameless girl went there too.<br><br>A quick skim shows that only the word "students" is used for both schools before and after those points (except of course for Victor and Fleur).
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>21-06-2009, 04:51:28</strong>
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				&nbsp;:o Unless that just tickled your fancy to look up... I promise I will believe what i am told. *bows to all of those who have greater knowledge of Harry Potter* <br><br>Its just been at least what 3 years since the last book? My freshest memories are from the movies. Its one of those things I couldn't remember if it got changed for the big screen or stayed the same. I really didn't enjoy reading the books. Read every one because I had started the series and wanted to finish the complete story, but its not something I want to do again.<br><br>So if i ask something, it will never to be argumentative. I'm just gathering information or clarifying something so I understand.&nbsp; O:)
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>21-06-2009, 04:59:45</strong>
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				I wave my eleven inch beech wand with the dragon whisker core and voila, Vincent is the Frenchman, <em>non</em>?<br><br>Now to edit.&nbsp; Presumably there is an equivalent of Slytherin House at Beauxbatons...
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>LordAnubis</strong> on <strong>21-06-2009, 05:03:38</strong>
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				I'm going to need to come up with a character.&nbsp; I think Xavier has been done to death on E.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>21-06-2009, 05:40:13</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg1984509#msg1984509">Quote from: GothicFires on 21-06-2009, 04:51:28</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"> :o Unless that just tickled your fancy to look up... I promise I will believe what i am told. *bows to all of those who have greater knowledge of Harry Potter* </blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>That was less than five minutes' work.&nbsp; Ten years of training to conduct research pays off, I guess.&nbsp; :)&nbsp; And I suppose reading the entire series back-to-back four times (when book seven came out, qualifying exams, writing chapter four, pre-diss. defense) helps.<br><br>I will try to get a thread up at some point tomorrow (Sunday).&nbsp; Too tired at the moment.&nbsp; But, there should be time between class, cleaning, and the in-laws visiting.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DoctorWhy</strong> on <strong>21-06-2009, 05:42:05</strong>
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				Thanks for the approval!&nbsp; I rather like the idea of a character who's lousy with magic, it gives me the opportunity to work outside the box a bit, and allow for him to make up for it in other ways.<br>But seeing how the GM' an expert to beat out even me (which I didn't think I'd ever see) I'll have to make sure everything stays pretty strictly within the realm of possibility! :P
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>21-06-2009, 06:10:22</strong>
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				No worries, Dr.&nbsp; I'm not a stickler for anything.&nbsp; Heck, I'm pretty much expecting that most, if not all, characters won't be using British, Irish, or much of any other European slang/terminology.&nbsp; And that's fine.&nbsp; I'd rather have some "inaccuracy" than fall into the stereotypical whatever that tends to happen when people try too hard.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kckolbe</strong> on <strong>21-06-2009, 16:40:26</strong>
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				&nbsp; &nbsp;By the way, has anyone else expressed an interest in a female character?&nbsp; GothicFires' char sounds like fun, but we don't wanna wear the poor girl out.&nbsp; I haven't created a char yet, and would be willing to roll a female if ya think the ratio needs a little help.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>21-06-2009, 16:46:23</strong>
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				Feel free to go girl&nbsp; :-)&nbsp; I usually do...but for now I'm trying to keep myself to just one character.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kckolbe</strong> on <strong>21-06-2009, 16:54:38</strong>
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				&nbsp; &nbsp;I hadn't thought of two characters.&nbsp; I suppose I could do a female character first, then a male if things even out a bit.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>21-06-2009, 23:21:55</strong>
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				If you guys want me to I can create another female character. If it is more comfortable for you.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>22-06-2009, 01:21:59</strong>
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				First IC thread's up.&nbsp; Those with approved (and posted) characters can feel free to start posting.<br><br>http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=40004.0 (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=40004.0)
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Bishrook aka Fate sisters</strong> on <strong>22-06-2009, 05:03:19</strong>
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				Jessica has joined the female cast so we have another to share the burden.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kckolbe</strong> on <strong>22-06-2009, 06:27:43</strong>
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				Lovely to have you.&nbsp; I think I will do a male char then.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>22-06-2009, 14:40:30</strong>
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				I'll also plan on filling in characters when/as needed.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>23-06-2009, 00:19:39</strong>
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				ok.... looks like we already have a problem that is partially my fault because I didn't read Bishrook's post in detail because I read that she went on the ferry and I had Eirawen on the dock. So that means my last post slighted both Bishrook and MadPanda. <br><br>I know DrWhy may have already read my response... but give me time and I will edit my post to interact with the previous two characters. I will just move Eirawen up to the Ferry before they get to her.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>23-06-2009, 00:23:03</strong>
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				To be fair, Max approached Eirawen first...but no, Vincent is not approaching Jessica unless Jessica also has a feline familiar...&nbsp; ;D
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>23-06-2009, 01:01:50</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=40004.msg1986397#msg1986397">Quote from: DoctorWhy on 22-06-2009, 04:53:23</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"><br>Scanning the groups of students, he caught sight of one familiar face so far-Talvi, Max thought, Eirawen Talvi. And that was as far as he got before suddenly realizing the very specific benefits of the new school uniforms: They gave him a brand new perspective on his old schoolmates, for one.<br><br>This was going to be a fun year.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>He caught sight of her and stopped... he did not approach<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=40004.msg1986407#msg1986407">Quote from: bishrook aka fate sisters on 22-06-2009, 04:57:45</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">"if you promise to behave I'll let you out." she said.<br>"Yooooowl"<br>"OK, Then."<br>A large black and white Tom Cat emerged from the carrier. It blinked in the sunlight and then did a long&nbsp; stretch before rubbing against her ankle.<br>"Meow!" he said spotting another cat on the deck.<br>He trotted out away and looked back at her in an expectent manner.<br>"Oh Timmy fell in the well again." muttered Jessica.<br>She followed the cat who kept looking back to be sure she was with him.<br>Yowl moved to Eirawen's feet and twined and rubbed against her ankles.<br>"Yowl!"<br>"Hi, He is indeed Yowl the cat and I am Jessica." she said to Eirawen. "You must be first year."<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I missed this because I didn't have Eirawen board the ferry which Jessica did... this happens on the ferry<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=40004.msg1987227#msg1987227">Quote from: MadPanda on 22-06-2009, 14:37:57</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">A fourth figure stood some distance away from the others, leaning on the rail, gazing out at the water thoughtfully with a small tortoiseshell calico in his arms.&nbsp; ..... <br><br>Yet the arrival of the American student seemed to pull him out of his shell.&nbsp; Another brief conference with the tortie and he turned toward the two young women and approached, keeping the tiny cat cradled in his arms.<br><br>"Bonjour, mademoiselles...et aussi monsieurs les chats."&nbsp; He held his little friend out toward them and switched effortlessly to English.&nbsp; "This is Regina.&nbsp; She wishes to greet your familiars, if it is permitted?"<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>You stating that Vincent is on the rail... placing him on the ferry... Jessica is the American and you clearly bring regina the cat to meet the two young women.<br><br>I have fixed the post and managed to acknowledge Dr.Why's post two. He is just going to have to board the ferry and make is merry way over to the group if he wants quick interaction. I have fixed it the best i could.<br><br>Its been a really long time since i have played a group game&nbsp; :-) :P
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>23-06-2009, 01:09:03</strong>
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				(checks notes)<br><br>Hmm.&nbsp; Don't know why I mixed up Jessica and Vivian in my head, since Vivian was not in the scene yet when I first posted and they look nothing alike...&nbsp; My bad.&nbsp; :-)&nbsp; And you read it right the first time: Vincent brought Regina over to say hello.&nbsp; Or, rather, Regina asked him to take her over to say hello.&nbsp; Or something.<br><br>Sorry for the mixup!
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>23-06-2009, 01:19:00</strong>
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				its no biggy. Normally when i am in group games I am GMing them and read them better so part of it is my fault too. I stopped reading when I saw that she was not in the same place that I was and didn't realize that she had misinterpreted where I was and had us interacting. I just hope i caught it before anyone started responding to the post.<br><br>I will usually conform to a post if at all possible. If not I will Pm the player and work out a compromise. 
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>23-06-2009, 01:22:13</strong>
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				No worries.&nbsp; &nbsp;:-)&nbsp; Hey, Max!&nbsp; Come on over and join the party!&nbsp; &nbsp;;D
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DoctorWhy</strong> on <strong>23-06-2009, 02:12:06</strong>
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				Hey all. Sorry, I was a bit occupied today (A few of my family members were on the trains that crashed, but they're all okay). But to clarify, Max hasn't actually interacted with anyone yet. He's just been checking everything out.<br><br>...I forgot to pack a familiar. Eep.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>23-06-2009, 02:14:49</strong>
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				No worries!&nbsp; Jump in anytime.&nbsp; ;D&nbsp; And familiars are optional, I think.&nbsp; But they <em>do</em> make nice icebreakers...
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DoctorWhy</strong> on <strong>23-06-2009, 02:33:06</strong>
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				Well, I worked around it, I think. The runaway wand did an okay job of taking the familiar's place, didn't it?
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>23-06-2009, 02:34:20</strong>
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				Poifect!
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>23-06-2009, 04:12:54</strong>
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				Yep, pets aren't exactly a necessity.&nbsp; Glad to see things worked out while I was away dealing with teacher stuff and admin stuff.&nbsp; :)
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Bishrook aka Fate sisters</strong> on <strong>23-06-2009, 06:07:03</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg1988401#msg1988401">Quote from: GothicFires on 23-06-2009, 00:19:39</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">ok.... looks like we already have a problem that is partially my fault because I didn't read Bishrook's post in detail because I read that she went on the ferry and I had Eirawen on the dock. So that means my last post slighted both Bishrook and MadPanda. <br><br>I know DrWhy may have already read my response... but give me time and I will edit my post to interact with the previous two characters. I will just move Eirawen up to the Ferry before they get to her.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div> <br>I am not sure who is to blame but Thank Gothic fires for making everything fit. If I do screw up in the future by reading a post too fast then let me know and I will modify as needed.<br>One glitch I amy have fumbled is if Blue was first presented to the humans and then to yowl or just presented once. If needed I will correct.<br>&nbsp;Despite the little hitch I think this going well. 
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Risa</strong> on <strong>25-06-2009, 07:14:46</strong>
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				Is this roleplay still open for members to join up?
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>25-06-2009, 13:34:31</strong>
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				Of course. New players will always be welcome. Just to make it easy for you...<br><br>Private Beyond Hogwarts (http://elliquiy.com/wiki/Private:Beyond_Hogwarts) here is the Wiki page with most of the rules and game info<br><br>Characters (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39841.msg1980373#msg1980373) Create a character and PM it to Vandren and once he gives you the approval you can post it and jump right in. If the ferry leaves the dock before you get it done, just start on ferry.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>25-06-2009, 15:20:05</strong>
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				Hmmm.&nbsp; I might have to go get Kat out of mothballs for this one, just for old time's sake...
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>25-06-2009, 21:21:39</strong>
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				On most week days it will probably be after three before i am able to post. Right now I am having issues with the muscles and nerves in my neck. Add to that I think I am getting a migraine. I'm going to lay down for a while and not even look at the clock. I hope in a few hours that sitting up won't bother me so much.<br><br>If anyone feels the pressing need, then go ahead and pass my turn. <br><br>I should be able to post later this evening
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>25-06-2009, 21:29:46</strong>
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				OK<br>rest well!&nbsp; &nbsp;;D<br><br>I don't think we're taking 'turns' so much as giving others a chance to chime in.&nbsp; And since we might have a new player coming in, this is a good spot to slow down... 
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>25-06-2009, 23:15:39</strong>
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				Any time, GF.&nbsp; Health always comes first.&nbsp; And things for chiming in on the question.&nbsp; :)<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg1994883#msg1994883">Quote from: Risa on 25-06-2009, 07:14:46</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Is this roleplay still open for members to join up?</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Yep, this is intended to be wide open.<br><br>My apologies for not answering directly, in person earlier.&nbsp; I spent virtually the whole day at Origins.&nbsp; Good times.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>26-06-2009, 02:23:05</strong>
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				taking turns, giving other people a chance to chime in... should be one in the same really. Everyone had posted after me, so i wanted to let people know i would be a little late in posting and give you the choice of waiting on me or not. <br><br>If you get too out of sequence especially with a lot of characters in a group it can overwhelm the person who didn't get to post, make them feel excluded but more importantly makes everyone miss the chance to be affected by the actions that character would have made if the time would not have moved on with out them.<br><br>And you're welcome Vandren. I like being useful.<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>26-06-2009, 02:29:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				True, true, but the image that passed through my mind with 'taking turns' was the idea of all of us sitting around in a circle, posting in sequence...&nbsp; &nbsp;;D&nbsp; (Can you tell I have a small child in the house?)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DoctorWhy</strong> on <strong>26-06-2009, 06:15:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				An adorable mental image, but I dunno how well it'd work in practice. :P<br>I work the afternoon-night shift at a local hotel, and some nights I work later than others, so my posting will be erratic as well. I can generally manage once a night, but lets not stick too strictly to turns, all right? I wouldn't want to hold it all up.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Bishrook aka Fate sisters</strong> on <strong>26-06-2009, 06:21:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Howver you define it I think we are all on the same page. Aconversation and an RPG isn't fun when the story just leaves you behind.<br>I am often arfrentic poster capable of doing it several times in the evening...buthen sometimes I miss a night.<br>The best way pace myself is by letting everyone else to post within reasonable limits. <br>(I've seen too many games die becuase one player didn't post for week or two.)<br>Anyway lets finish off this round and wait and see&nbsp; what Risa brings us.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>27-06-2009, 17:23:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hang in there, Max!&nbsp; And we'll try not to leave you too far behind.<br><br>Now, do we need another girl running about?&nbsp; I can bring my other old Hogwarts character in, if anyone wants to deal with a sternly pretty blonde with a mean streak... 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>27-06-2009, 19:14:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				as it stands now there are three women and three men. Risa was wanting to join. She hasn't mentioned that she wants to play a male character so it is safest to assume she is going to play a female. Which would put us at 4/3. if you bring another female in that is 5/3.<br><br>But this is also not considering if any of the characters are bi or strictly interested in the same sex. Viveinne wouldn't be a stretch to be bi. But its not one of those things that move me one way or the other. So perhaps instead of a male to female count, Vandren should have an orientation count?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>27-06-2009, 19:27:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, as initially thought up Kat's bi...with a strong preference for women (because it pisses her parents off).&nbsp; :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>27-06-2009, 21:08:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				the question of do we really need another girl running about...<br><br>the answer is no.<br><br>Perhaps if you ask the question Do I (meaning you) want to play a girl?<br><br>If the answer is yes then by all means do so. Vandren has already stated that he will NPC characters when needed.<br><br>Personally I am not inclined to play bi woman. Even when I play a male role it takes a special writer to make women interesting to me so that it is more about the story and character than it is about my mind.<br><br>However for the story, over all fun and understanding how it is to be a gm plugging in all the holes to ensure everyone is having a good time. I am willing to have both of my female characters open experiences with other females. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>27-06-2009, 21:16:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Now I'm almost sorry I bothered throwing the idea out there.&nbsp; &nbsp;::)&nbsp; Forget it.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>27-06-2009, 21:22:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				i hope you didn't take that to being discouraging. it was meant to be the opposite. My statement about myself on f/f is on my on/offs. But bishrook has jessica in the hyena dorm so that may mean her character may be open to f/f.<br><br>Even if the moment doesn't completely appeal to me, I am the type of person who also takes pleasure in the fact that the person i am writing with at the time is having a good time.<br><br>If you want to play the character then submit it to Van
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>27-06-2009, 21:23:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				You may not mean to come across as both disapproving and somewhat condescending, but it <em>does</em> feel a bit like I'm being lectured like a novice.&nbsp; :-(&nbsp; <br><br>Have a care, if you would, because nobody else has put a word in on this yet.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>27-06-2009, 21:33:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				i am not lecturing you like a novice. I am discussing my opinions to you and what I am willing to contribute to this game for you as an adult. you asked a question I analyzed it and gave you an answer. <br><br>I am not certain of how 'its not needed but do it if you want to' is a bad answer. <br><br>perhaps you would have liked to hear 'sure we need another girl', but its not true. Its not a need at this moment. I had intended to only have one character. Then when we had a ratio of three guys to one girl with a different guy mentioning that he would play a girl to balance things out. I offered to create another character and then made another female character so he wouldn't have to. Then bishrook added Jessica so that we came up to a balance. <br><br>If you want to bring in another character and that character happens to be female... by all means do it... we will make it work. But do not ever think i am not talking to you as an equal just because I don't say what you want to hear. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>27-06-2009, 21:36:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Forget it.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>27-06-2009, 22:53:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				(this is not to Madpanda directly)<br><br>I just wanted to note that I wasn't assuming that MP's suggested new character was going to be bi. Only that having more girls than guys would make the possibility of any female being bi and there for opening up the possibility that it is fine with me for my characters to accommodate that if required. <br><br>Sexual orientation is only hinted at in the hyena dorm as they are bi-pan. But I can't see that being strictly all inclusive as I could see Vivienne being more aggressive and dominate but open to bi sexual experiences. So far we have been worried about the balance to male/female. In the character list there are 3 guys and 3 girls. But I am wondering if that balance really matters when the one of the x characters may not be attracted to any of the y characters either from personality or they may just only like x. <br><br>My only consideration of pc balance was so that Vandren was not overrun with having to make npc posts. But that in itself might be a fallacy because at any time adding a new character might tip the balance that is current, but it must be accepted in order for the game to grow in members. He has stated that he is willing to fill in gaps when needed and I trust that no one would feel left out even if they are not interacting with another pc.<br><br>We have already stated many times that people are welcome at any time... the more the merrier. So if this new theory is not wrong than any character regardless sex and sexual orientation should be welcomed even if it is not needed. And if Vandren ever needs help npcing the game he will ask for it.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>28-06-2009, 02:26:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Howdy all,<br><br>Ok, I've just gotten online for the first time today.&nbsp; Been out of the house, but whatever, that's neither here nor there.&nbsp; <br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2001001#msg2001001">Quote from: MadPanda on 27-06-2009, 17:23:43</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Now, do we need another girl running about?&nbsp; I can bring my other old Hogwarts character in, if anyone wants to deal with a sternly pretty blonde with a mean streak...</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>My own, official I guess, response here is: Do we <em>need</em> one?&nbsp; Probably not.&nbsp; Would another be welcome?&nbsp; Certainly.&nbsp; (Of course, this point has already been made, both officially and unofficially by myself and others.)&nbsp; <br><br>Based on what I'm seeing here and the PMs I received, this doesn't seem to be quite the question that was intended.&nbsp; But that's another story.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Now I'm almost sorry I bothered throwing the idea out there.&nbsp; &nbsp;::)&nbsp; Forget it.<br><br>You may not mean to come across as both disapproving and somewhat condescending, but it does feel a bit like I'm being lectured like a novice.&nbsp; :-( </blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>No offense, MP, but as a response, this comes across as quite childish.&nbsp; Especially considering the context and the follow up.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Have a care, if you would, because nobody else has put a word in on this yet.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>This on the other hand sounds like a borderline threat, and makes the preceding statements sound even more childish.<br><br>Anyway.&nbsp; I'm not seeing where the problem is or what caused any problems.&nbsp; A question was asked, a considered answer was given.&nbsp; Was it the answer that was desired?&nbsp; Perhaps not.&nbsp; Was the question asked the correct question?&nbsp; Also, perhaps not.<br><br>Now, before anyone goes into "you're being biased" complaints let me state that I've already slipped into teacher mode.&nbsp; When I'm in teacher mode, I go thoroughly neutral in matters of relationships and personalities, much to the chagrin of a few students who took a second class with me assuming they could barely skate by and do well because I knew them (this is standard paper grading, etc. mode).&nbsp; Rather, I look at what's been said and the strength of both the points made and the interpretations of said points.&nbsp; Yes, I know I've quoted MP but not GF.&nbsp; That is not an indication of bias in this case, rather it is an indication of what appears to be the weaker collection of points or interpretation of points, which I am hoping to deal with and comment on so that they'll be stronger in the future.<br><br>Based on the PMs that I was made privy to, perhaps the proper question would have been "So-and-so, would you like me to put together a female character tailored to your's?" or "I think I'm going to put together a new female character.&nbsp; Any problems with that, Van?"&nbsp; (The latter because I'm really the one who has to deal with making sure all the characters are involved in some way, shape, or form.<br><br>Now, on a related note, it so happens that I'm working up a (straight) male student.&nbsp; He's been put on the back burner for the last day or two due to pre-quarter prep work, Origins, and aikido as well as a couple professional projects.&nbsp; But, he should be ready by Monday, I hope.<br><br>Anyway.<br><br>Hopefully the "drama" has been settled and not too many feathers are ruffled (it's always good to ruffle a few feathers every now and then, after all).<br><br>-Van<br><br>(P.S. For general usage: regarding certain [thankfully removed] post count comments, please never assume that high post count equals great experience or greater authority.&nbsp; Personally, I've been here since near the beginning of E but have a relatively low post count.&nbsp; Yet, my online gaming experience goes back to the days of CompuServe, roughly 17 or 18 years ago.&nbsp; And my general gaming experience goes back roughly 26 years, as well as about 17 years of fiction writing experience.&nbsp; Post counts only indicate chattiness and free time, not necessarily quality or experience.&nbsp; This is not meant to insult anyone, some of my best friends on the site have very high post counts.&nbsp; It is merely something to keep in mind.)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>28-06-2009, 02:40:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry for wasting your time, then.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>28-06-2009, 03:36:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				So long as everything gets resolved at least moderately peacefully, no worries.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>30-06-2009, 05:18:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just to clarify before I put up a reply, when did Vivienne start teaching?&nbsp; (Trying to figure out if Brian's heard of her)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>30-06-2009, 05:21:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				she's new. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Rhapsody</strong> on <strong>06-07-2009, 19:42:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Good lord... I thought this never got off the ground... and here I find it's gone ahead and active. <br><br>Must've confused some information from a PM or something.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>06-07-2009, 19:47:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				There's always room for more, if you're interested.&nbsp; The ferry's nearly to the island.&nbsp; :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Rhapsody</strong> on <strong>06-07-2009, 19:48:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2024242#msg2024242">Quote from: Vandren on 06-07-2009, 19:47:44</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">There's always room for more, if you're interested.&nbsp; The ferry's nearly to the island.&nbsp; :)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>On it, sir. :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>07-07-2009, 19:58:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hi folks, we've got one newcomer already posting, one approved and getting ready to post, and a third on the way.&nbsp; So, I'll wait on them (or until Saturday, whichever comes first) before the island landing.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Risa</strong> on <strong>07-07-2009, 20:18:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I have my character posted (with a few minor adjustments). I'll go work on my post now ^^
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>07-07-2009, 21:11:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Char posted 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Bishrook aka Fate sisters</strong> on <strong>08-07-2009, 07:16:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				My pardon but who has mentioned what Dorm they are in IC?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>08-07-2009, 13:16:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I don't think anyone has... or at least they shouldn't have. The only two who are returning students are Jessica and Brian. So until we pass through the gates no one else would know their dorm.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Risa</strong> on <strong>08-07-2009, 20:16:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				This might not be related to the thread, but I just have to get this thought out of my brain, and since everyone seems to be Harry Potter-savvy here, I thought I'd run it past you guys...<br><br>When I was re-reading the 4th book, I thought about something. The night after the 3rd task (or the early morning after, since Harry was asleep and woke up later), Cornelius Fudge openly expresses his...erm...blatant disbelief that Voldemort has returned. In response to this, Dumbledore orders Sirius to "contact Remus Lupin, Arabella Figg (Harry's batty neighbor with the many cats), Mundungus Fletcher, the old crowd". Why then, if Harry was awake during the argument between Dumbledore and Fudge, did Harry act surprised that Ms. Figg knew Dumbledore at the beginning of the 5th book, when he ordered Sirius to make contact with him?<br><br>And now, topic-related, are the students still on the ferry, or are we unboarding? Thanks!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>08-07-2009, 20:37:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				students are still on board the ferry. You can write yourself on it with no problem.<br><br>i'm not knowledgeable enough for the other discussion :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Rhapsody</strong> on <strong>08-07-2009, 21:41:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Because the Harry Potter series is full of plot holes big enough to drive the Knight Bus through?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>08-07-2009, 22:10:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				The ferry will dock with Rhapsody on-board or Saturday, whichever comes first.&nbsp; :)<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2029442#msg2029442">Quote from: Risa on 08-07-2009, 20:16:22</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">In response to this, Dumbledore orders Sirius to "contact Remus Lupin, Arabella Figg (Harry's batty neighbor with the many cats), Mundungus Fletcher, the old crowd". Why then, if Harry was awake during the argument between Dumbledore and Fudge, did Harry act surprised that Ms. Figg knew Dumbledore at the beginning of the 5th book, when he ordered Sirius to make contact with him?</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Since Rowling's pretty good at mapping things out, I always figured he was just zoning.&nbsp; Afterall, Harry'd just fought his way through the challenge maze, watched Voldemort return, fought for his life against V., watched Cedric's murder, portkey-ed back to Hogwarts, been captured and almost killed by Barty Crouch Jr, watched Dumbledore stun B.C. Jr, watched who he thought was trusted Moody turn into villain B.C. Jr., and got hustled up to the hospital wing.&nbsp; He's done pretty well for himself, if he misses a name or two after all that, who's going to notice?&nbsp; Any two or three of those things may send most people temporarily catatonic.&nbsp; :)&nbsp; Even after hearing the name, he'd have to connect Arabella Figg to dotty old Mrs. Figg down the lane, which might not happen anyway (seeing as Harry's often a bit slow on the uptake with those sorts of things).<br><br>At least, that's what eventually went through my head.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>08-07-2009, 22:19:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				So does this mean , I can have Jaxon screw up her clothes /
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>09-07-2009, 00:32:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				you can do what ever you like love. if you are looking for punishment though you may have to do it several times&nbsp; &gt;:)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>09-07-2009, 01:08:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2030032#msg2030032">Quote from: GothicFires on 09-07-2009, 00:32:27</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">you can do what ever you like love. if you are looking for punishment though you may have to do it several times&nbsp; &gt;:)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Punishment !! Well in that case *Sticks behind out * for proper punishment
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Rhapsody</strong> on <strong>09-07-2009, 01:36:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Character sheet sent.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Rhapsody</strong> on <strong>10-07-2009, 19:01:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Character sheet's posted. :)&nbsp; I'll work on an intro post later this afternoon.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>16-07-2009, 18:52:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				We've gotten three more interested people.&nbsp; We'll see what happens with them . . . one may need a crash course in Potterania, but that shouldn't be a big problem.&nbsp; :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Hayato</strong> on <strong>17-07-2009, 20:47:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				crash course? are u referring to me?<br><br><br>Name John Cortes<br>Lineage: Daniel (father-full blood) Maria (mother-human)<br>Gender: M<br>Age: 17<br>Class Year: 1<br>Dorm: Fox<br><br>NEWTs Earned: (graded E or O) Potions-E, Ancient Runes-O, History of Magic-E, Transfiguration-E<br>Notable Strengths: Estudient and a quick learner, very good at Charms, though not interested in the subject.<br>Notable Weaknesses: Can get competitive at times, easily talked into things<br>Notable Possessions: Nimbus 2005, wand made from a dragon's tooth, locket from his mother.<br><br>Description: He is short and hispanic, with black hair, brown eyes and stands at 5'5". His skin is a dark olive, and he has a toned build.<br><br>Background: John Cortes is a graduate of Briar Ridge Wizarding School in New York. His father is a big wig in the Department of Magic while his mother is a human doctor in the USAF. He is a good duelist and student. He is usually reserved and shy at first, but comes out of his shell around friends.<br><br>Adult Limits: no bdsm or ws
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Rhapsody</strong> on <strong>17-07-2009, 21:26:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2052904#msg2052904">Quote from: hayato on 17-07-2009, 20:47:09</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Adult Limits: <strong>no bdsm</strong> or ws</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>*scratches head*&nbsp; Um... this is in the Bondage forum.&nbsp; I presume that this, and game elements introduced in the background of the school, mean that the possibility of BDSM is rather high. :S
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>17-07-2009, 21:36:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2052904#msg2052904">Quote from: hayato on 17-07-2009, 20:47:09</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">crash course? are u referring to me?</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Nope, that was posted a good 24 hrs before you expressed interest.&nbsp; :)&nbsp; I've copied your character to the profiles thread.&nbsp; In the very first post of this thread, there're links to the other threads.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">*scratches head*&nbsp; Um... this is in the Bondage forum.&nbsp; I presume that this, and game elements introduced in the background of the school, mean that the possibility of BDSM is rather high. :S</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I, like most of the group/game mods here, consider the Elliquiy section that a game/thread is located in to refer to the maximum possible level that play can include.&nbsp; That doesn't mean that play <em>has</em> to include the section's name, just that it is possible for such things to occur if desired (personally, I've taken part in NC groups in which only two of 20+ characters ever engaged in NC interactions).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>19-07-2009, 01:27:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just got back from seeing <em>Half-Blood Prince</em> a little while ago.&nbsp; My "immediate" review: if you're not familiar with the books (just the movies), then it's a pretty good to very good movie.&nbsp; If you're familiar with the books, well . . . a lot of the things they changed or removed (comprising roughly 90% of the book) make little to no sense.&nbsp; There's very little right out of the book in the movie.&nbsp; And Harry has a "Peter Jackson's Faramir #1" - Two Towers - moment where he's totally and completely out of character.&nbsp; But, like Faramir, he acquires counseling and becomes himself fairly quickly.<br><br>Perhaps more importantly, the director "mundaned" everything.&nbsp; Visually, inside, the Express and Hogwarts itself don't look like themselves.&nbsp; They look like a normal everyday train and a normal mundane castle.&nbsp; For example, none of the portraits (or photos for that matter) move throughout the entire movie, the ghosts aren't present even in the background, Hedwig is the only visible owl and even she doesn't really do anything, and the staircases don't move even in the background.&nbsp; The movie lost something visually when these were removed.<br><br>Anyway, a couple group related PMs to deal with and some IC.&nbsp; I'll plan on having the headmaster down to give a speech by, say, Monday night EDT, with free for all starting Tuesday or so.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Rhapsody</strong> on <strong>19-07-2009, 01:54:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2055721#msg2055721">Quote from: Vandren on 19-07-2009, 01:27:25</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">And Harry has a "Peter Jackson's Faramir #1" - Two Towers - moment where he's totally and completely out of character.&nbsp; But, like Faramir, he acquires counseling and becomes himself fairly quickly.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Years of reading bad fanfiction have prepared me for this.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Perhaps more importantly, the director "mundaned" everything.&nbsp; Visually, inside, the Express and Hogwarts itself don't look like themselves.&nbsp; They look like a normal everyday train and a normal mundane castle.&nbsp; For example, none of the portraits (or photos for that matter) move throughout the entire movie, the ghosts aren't present even in the background, Hedwig is the only visible owl and even she doesn't really do anything, and the staircases don't move even in the background.&nbsp; The movie lost something visually when these were removed.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>... Are you kidding?&nbsp; Part of the appeal of the first five movies was in all the little things that reminded us that it really wasn't the Muggle world we were seeing.&nbsp; &nbsp;I haven't been hearing good things about this movie -- hell, I often refer to the novel itself as <em>Half-Baked Plot</em> instead of its actual -- but this kinda cinches it for me.&nbsp; I'll wait for DVD.&nbsp; First time too, by the way.&nbsp; I saw all of the other five in theaters.<br><br>It sounds kinda dumb, but setting something in the magical world, and then not <em>showing</em> us how magical this world is... it's kind of a deal breaker for me.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>19-07-2009, 02:52:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I guess since I haven't read the book in years, the movie didn't bother me. I didn't pay that much attention to the back ground either... like at the moment, until Vandren mentioned it I didn't realize that the pictures didn't move, except Albus at the end with didn't move much because the picture was sleeping. <br><br>Overall i don't think it was that bad. I might go see again it if it hits our local $1.50 theater.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>19-07-2009, 04:12:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				It wasn't really bad as a movie, it just wasn't, in my opinion, as good as the other five.&nbsp; And it changed more stuff from the book than any of the other five.&nbsp; That said, the local movie reviewer loved it . . . something about "it was significantly longer than Transformers 2, but felt like it was shorter" and "best of the HP movies so far".&nbsp; To each his/her own.&nbsp; &nbsp;:-)<br><br>A couple good examples of bizarre changes that shouldn't spoil anything for those who haven't seen it: the invisibility cloak was a non-entity in the movie aside from the train scene at the beginning and they added a strange scene at the Weasley's over Christmas that didn't really seem to serve a purpose.&nbsp; On the other hand, they did decide to show Draco working on the vanishing cabinet, which was a good move for a film version, I think, and did change a few scenes to add Harry and Hermione discussing relationships (probably good, since they basically vocalized things that we only get from Harry's thoughts in the book).<br><br>We'll probably pick up the extended ed. DVD to complete the set and to see what scenes/info the director adds back in.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>19-07-2009, 05:12:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				By the way, those who've recently had characters approved can feel free to post IC.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>20-07-2009, 23:05:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'll get the headmaster's speech up in a couple hours RT, then we can fast forward to morning and classes sometime Tuesday, if everyone's fine with that.&nbsp; I think we can start up multiple threads after that point, either by location or plotline, as desired by the group mind (feel free to make your preferences known here).<br><br>On a side note, I'd like to see at least one IC post from each player/character who is still with us by the end of the week.&nbsp; Saturday evening I'll go through and set up anyone characters who haven't posted as "Suspended" or "On Hold".<br><br>Current IC thread: http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=40004.0 (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=40004.0)<br>Characters Thread: http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39841.0 (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39841.0)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GrinningHound</strong> on <strong>21-07-2009, 11:21:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I am going out of town for a few days (Cedar Point!)&nbsp; I will try to get my character up in the character thread and get a post in, but I will be off limits for interaction until I come back on Friday-ish.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>21-07-2009, 15:10:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Enjoy the park, it's been a while since my last visit (used to go every summer, back when we lived a hour away) . . . assuming that's the roller coaster amusement park in Sandusky.&nbsp; :)<br><br>Until GH gets back and edits, Weyland is not carrying a sword and his cloak is black (probably Hebridean Black) dragonhide.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>21-07-2009, 21:06:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				The following locations can be assumed to exist:<br><br>1) Quidditch pitch<br>2) Dorm common rooms<br>3) Dorm sleeping areas (co-ed communal by class year)<br>4) Greenhouses<br>5) Classrooms<br>6) Faculty offices and living suites<br>7) Library<br>8) Scattered, thin groves (thin rocky soil doesn't really encourage forests)<br><br>So, I think we can open up multiple threads at the moment.&nbsp; My feeling on those is to go by location, either requesting them here in this thread or setting them up as desired (using the [Beyond Hogwarts] lead in on titles).&nbsp; If the latter option is chosen, please post a link here or PM one to me so I can add it to the list
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GrinningHound</strong> on <strong>21-07-2009, 23:04:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hm.&nbsp; I wish I could interact with Vivienne a little bit, as she has a concern about my character, but I won't be able to post until Friday.<br><br>Sorry!&nbsp; :D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>21-07-2009, 23:06:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				its alright. it's nothing personal. you'll be able to interact with her soon enough. have fun on your trip.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GrinningHound</strong> on <strong>24-07-2009, 09:50:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh I know I was just excited to play it is all.&nbsp; :)<br><br>I'm back, we got rained out both days but managed four rides.&nbsp; :D<br><br>The trip on a whole was fun.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>24-07-2009, 18:32:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2070643#msg2070643">Quote from: GrinningHound on 24-07-2009, 09:50:18</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'm back, we got rained out both days but managed four rides.&nbsp; :D</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Those days are fun . . . last time I went, it was rainy and this only things open were the water rides and the ferris wheel.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GrinningHound</strong> on <strong>25-07-2009, 03:22:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I spent $50 for four rides, plus hotel and like 300 miles....<br><br>Still fun though.&nbsp; &nbsp;:-)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>26-07-2009, 05:04:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				My apologies for being a bit on the slow side.&nbsp; I'm going to get up posts for everyone tonight.&nbsp; ASAP, in fact.&nbsp; Hopefully within the next two to three hours.<br><br><strong>Posts Up</strong><br>- Aimee<br>- Jessica<br>- Max<br>- Eirawen<br>- Jaxon and Vincent - new thread: Fox Common Room (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=42857.0)<br>- Vivienne and Weyland<br><br>Did I miss anyone?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>26-07-2009, 21:30:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just a reminder for Pixie, there's a thread for the Fox dorm.&nbsp; :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>27-07-2009, 01:19:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Headed that way.. Thank you <br><br>Do we need to make a thread for all the room or use the main thread for the grounds as well ?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>27-07-2009, 03:12:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think one for the grounds/island would be appropriate.<br><br>http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=42919.0 (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=42919.0) - Grounds
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>27-07-2009, 20:58:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I was wondering if people could either put their character name at the top of their post or include it in their paragraph. Though it isn't impossible it is a pain in the but to have to go searching for them.<br><br>:) Thanks
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GrinningHound</strong> on <strong>28-07-2009, 02:21:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm all for skipping ahead to the next day.<br><br>Maybe we can have two threads running until the night ends?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>28-07-2009, 03:34:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2080024#msg2080024">Quote from: GrinningHound on 28-07-2009, 02:21:52</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'm all for skipping ahead to the next day.<br><br>Maybe we can have two threads running until the night ends?</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>The first statement implies seconding someone else's suggestion . . . which hasn't appeared.&nbsp; With no intent to offend, can I ask if the word "patience" is in someone's vocabulary?<br><br>Personally, I'm fine with moving to day, but there are active threads/scenes going on involving virtually every other character/player (which Weyland could get involved in) and there's plenty of opportunity of nighttime shenanigans should anyone wish to partake.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GrinningHound</strong> on <strong>28-07-2009, 09:09:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well...I i am kinda offended.&nbsp; It was just an idea, and I DID have in mind the other players, hence suggesting not everyone move forward.<br><br><br>"Hey Farva, what's that place you like with all that crazy shit on the wall?"<br><br>"You mean Shenanigans?!"<br><br>:D&nbsp; Super Troopers<br><br><br>Okay, I have a pretty good idea.&nbsp; :D<br><br><br>Does everyone have a character profile?&nbsp; They weren't all in the thread.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>28-07-2009, 09:51:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				how many group games have you ever played in? <br><br>how many group games have you ever gm'ed?<br><br>As a gm the worst thing you can do is allow time <del>condominiums</del> conundrums spanning days. It is hard enough to deal with when characters are hours apart.<br><br>the worst thing you can do as a player is push. its not fair to the other players of the game. and the point of playing in a group game is interacting with others. finding a way to put your self in the game in a pleasurable manner for everyone. The end of the evening is a time for the characters to relax and socialize. Its the first time many of them are meeting. <br><br>Its one thing to create conflict for the sake of a plot. Its quite another to cause conflict simply for conflict. At this moment I am not certain which you are doing and only mention it so you can ask yourself that question.<br><br>If you want a fast paced game that involves fighting your best bet would be to advertise for a one on one. That way there will not be any other players to hold you up. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GrinningHound</strong> on <strong>28-07-2009, 09:57:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I've played group games for at least six years and I've been DMing at least one at a time that whole time.<br><br>I don't know why you guys seem so upset with me.&nbsp; I'm not doing anything to hurt anyone.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>28-07-2009, 10:51:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I am not saying it is intentional on your part, but right now you are coming across as pushy.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GrinningHound</strong> on <strong>28-07-2009, 17:20:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm pretty hurt by this, to be honest.<br><br>I'm not doing anything intentionally.&nbsp; I guess I'm just a fool who doesn't get along with people no matter how hard I try.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>28-07-2009, 17:24:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				perhaps you are trying too hard? We do want you here. That is why we are trying to point this out to you.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>28-07-2009, 19:05:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2081153#msg2081153">Quote from: GrinningHound on 28-07-2009, 09:09:52</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Does everyone have a character profile?&nbsp; They weren't all in the thread.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Every active character has a profile in the appropriate thread, as do two in-active characters.&nbsp; The only "characters" who don't are a handful of NPCs I tossed together the other night, none of whom are really developed as such.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">It was just an idea, and I DID have in mind the other players, hence suggesting not everyone move forward.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I have two issues with this: 1) all the other characters/players are involved in scenes, so I'm not exactly seeing how moving to morning has them in mind; 2) I've had people on different times at a couple points over the last 20+ years I've GM-ed/mod-ed games/groups and 25 years of playing, and it rarely works out well.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">perhaps you are trying too hard? We do want you here. That is why we are trying to point this out to you.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I'll second this.&nbsp; One thing I'll note is that group games online (PbP format) tend to go slow.&nbsp; The first one I was ever involved in had been going for a year before I joined and continued for four years RT after that point.&nbsp; Approximately two to three months game/group time passed in those five years RT.&nbsp; That's kinda the nature of the beast.&nbsp; Most group games I've been involved in previously average 1-2 months RT for 24 hours GT, sometimes more, sometimes less.&nbsp; Depends on how quickly people post and the style.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>28-07-2009, 19:18:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Warning for everyone interacting with Brian, Thomas, or Mod-run NPCs:<br><br>Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays, and Saturdays my posting will be slow (non-existent on MF mornings, before 1600 EDT W, and before 1500 EDT S) for the next five weeks, including this one, due to my work schedule.&nbsp; Can't access a computer for more than 10-15 minutes while at work and since we're monitored there, can't access this site.&nbsp; Saturdays are a bit different, but that's also 5-6 hours away from home and computers.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Bishrook aka Fate sisters</strong> on <strong>28-07-2009, 21:51:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2081748#msg2081748">Quote from: GrinningHound on 28-07-2009, 17:20:23</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'm pretty hurt by this, to be honest.<br><br>I'm not doing anything intentionally.&nbsp; I guess I'm just a fool who doesn't get along with people no matter how hard I try.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>I don't think that you are a fool and I don't think those that wrote about your idea do either.<br>I think they were just telling you why they disagree with your idea.<br>It is possible to run a two or even three track game but if the GM wants to have a central plot then that makes it difficult. I think our GM has something in mind.<br>Please don't go! I think Weyland has great potential!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>29-07-2009, 00:04:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				with time conundrums its not just a matter about central plot. When you have time differences you loose the chance of other characters to interact. if everyone stays with in an hour of each other there is a chance that one person can move to another group of characters.<br><br>If you let each section get into their own time zone then they are forever stuck in that group unless you do a time set which usually requires everyone waiting on the last group to get to a stopping point or stopping them in their scenario and moving right along.<br><br>Vandren and I are not just going off of the little gaming done so far. there is a little behind the scenes things involved that makes it feel like he's trying to force a scenario instead of just relaxing and trying to let things evolve as if he were the character.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>29-07-2009, 02:24:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				This is what I do if someone is not talking to me or interacting with me .<br><br>I tend to go and do something silly to take notice or get lost exploring the said place I am in .. Right now I'm running around as a wolf on the grounds before two long that said wolf will probably come in wet and smell like wet dog as she shakes off her body and gets several students wet .. With a playful bark (Once again she got some attention ) runs off amused and to her chambers she goes.<br><br>Some time you have to be patient this is the time to develop your character , I find that Dming in verbal verse writing are two different demons.. They have differnet aspects and in rl Dming your story will move faster in the writing world this is going fast ....
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DoctorWhy</strong> on <strong>29-07-2009, 06:43:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Throwing in my two cents on the topic (entirely uninvited, but why not?), I've seen many games move slowly for days or months and then find a sudden jump in speed when several people happen to be online at once. For myself, I work late nights, so I only get in a post a night most time, if that. Slow games suit me fine.<br>However, it looks like for at least a handful of us, it'll be an interesting, if slowly-progressing night in GT!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GrinningHound</strong> on <strong>29-07-2009, 09:27:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Don't worry about me I'm fine.&nbsp; I'm in a game that's been going for three years.&nbsp; I know well the virtues of patience in PbP.<br><br>My tabletop group (also three years) only plays like...every couple weeks, for only a few hours.&nbsp; Grrr.&nbsp; :P<br><br>It's just hard sometimes I get in a good mood and I wanna get some writing done.&nbsp; :P<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DoctorWhy</strong> on <strong>29-07-2009, 19:11:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I know that feeling too. I love the little bursts of activity when everyone happens to be on at once and we can really get stuff done. It also puts a little pressure on to write faster, which I think provides more honest reactions from the characters, instead of more calculated and planned responses.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GrinningHound</strong> on <strong>31-07-2009, 13:24:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Nooo, where's Max?<br><br>Doesn't the school do Points?&nbsp; Why shouldn't they?&nbsp; It's a way to band the school together as a community and create healthy competition.&nbsp; It seems like something a school would do, they have sports, after all.&nbsp; They live together in seclusion after all, they're going to be more social than a normal college.<br><br>Maybe they stopped doing them since Weyland's been in school?&nbsp; :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>31-07-2009, 19:07:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Maybe they stopped doing them since Weyland's been in school?&nbsp; :P</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Seeing as he's only been out for three years (Nacodsaed graduates students at 23, after all) . . . just something to recall.<br><br>Virtually every school has sports, but only British public schools (to the best of my knowledge) have anything like a point system.&nbsp; Thus the presence of sports isn't exactly a strong argument for the presence of a point system.&nbsp; Rather than being intended to create unity or competition, their intent is to serve as a means of punishment and control.&nbsp; Nacodsaed has other ways of doing this.&nbsp; &nbsp;;D&nbsp; However, Max has no way of knowing this . . .
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GrinningHound</strong> on <strong>31-07-2009, 19:11:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, Weyland never mentioned anything about Points then.&nbsp; He would know the school's policy.<br><br>:D<br><br>I will make him 27 then, so he was still warring for 4 years after graduation.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DoctorWhy</strong> on <strong>02-08-2009, 06:07:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry, "Max" has been rather ill, and double-vision had made reading and writing difficult. However, he has mostly recovered and looks forward to continuing the game with you all. =P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>02-08-2009, 14:45:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ouch.&nbsp; Good luck with recovery.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GrinningHound</strong> on <strong>03-08-2009, 12:13:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote from: &nbsp;Cingriffon, Big C to the kids.</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">"Interesting, Vivienne," he said, in response to the blocking comment, "We'll have to compare notes on this sometime, when you have free time in your schedule.&nbsp; Our charms professor may be interested as well."&nbsp; Getting said professor out of the office would take some doing, though.&nbsp; "As I recall, you've mostly worked in the isles?&nbsp; Perhaps you know Merri Finch?&nbsp; She was working as a consultant for Magical Law Enforcement, last I heard.&nbsp; After retiring from here, one of our former Defense teachers."</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br><br>Haha I mentioned an old DADA teacher named Granny that trained Weyland.&nbsp; Can it be the same person?&nbsp; :D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>03-08-2009, 20:09:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sure, why not.&nbsp; Thomas never specified exactly how old she was.&nbsp; :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>06-08-2009, 01:01:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				GF, you may wish to modify your post.<br><br>Jaxon and Vincent are, if you read back just a little ways, in the <em>showers</em>...not in the Common Room proper.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>06-08-2009, 01:10:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				For future purposes can everyone please put a note in every post at the top when you are not in the same room as the thread title? I can't afford to go back and read every single post all the threads. I am sure other people moving into new threads cannot either.<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>06-08-2009, 01:32:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				On that note, for Max and Weyland, please move IC stuff to the Library thread (which probably should have been created days ago IRL):<br><br>http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=43774.0 (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=43774.0)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DoctorWhy</strong> on <strong>06-08-2009, 06:05:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Will do. But I think we're going to make potions now, wouldn't there be a potions room or something for that?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>06-08-2009, 06:15:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Your pardon if I'm a bit out of sorts it's relatively late and I've been up for longer than normal . . .<br><br>After a little PM discussion, the "Fox Dorm Common Room" thread has been renamed to simply "Fox Dorm" in order to reduce the number of potential threads, for the time being.&nbsp; This way, each dorm will get one thread rather than 3+ threads.&nbsp; Given the limited number of threads allowed, I think that's the best way to handle such things.&nbsp; That said, since there are potentially seven locations in each dorm -- bedrooms (1st to 5th year classes, so five), common room, and bathroom -- it would be helpful to note at the top of a post where in the dorm the action is taking place.<br><br>(Honestly, re: the confusion mentioned earlier, I've been reading the thread and also thought Jaxon-Vincent were in the non-bath area.&nbsp; Then again, take that with a grain of salt since I also thought Jaxon had taken her wolf form already, which may not be the case.)<br><br>Admittedly, some of this is rather ad hoc, but so far this is the most successful "Small Games" group I've been involved with.&nbsp; Most crap out after one or two threads and virtually no posting (such is my luck), so I'm sort of feeling my way through it as well (Big Groups with child boards are, IMO, a lot easier to organize in some ways, but that may just be me).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>06-08-2009, 06:16:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2109066#msg2109066">Quote from: DoctorWhy on 06-08-2009, 06:05:30</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Will do. But I think we're going to make potions now, wouldn't there be a potions room or something for that?</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I suppose that would all depend on whether you want to risk waking/bothering the Potions Professor (since his/her office-living space would be near the classroom) rather than being secretive.&nbsp; :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>06-08-2009, 06:26:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2109096#msg2109096">Quote from: Vandren on 06-08-2009, 06:15:15</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">(Honestly, re: the confusion mentioned earlier, I've been reading the thread and also thought Jaxon-Vincent were in the non-bath area.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I grant you that the thread has moved very quickly, but the next page to last (page 9) does contain a few references to things like hot spray, shower walls, et cetera.&nbsp; And the second to last post (Reply 233) contains this...<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=42857.msg2105001#msg2105001">Quote from: MadPanda on 05-08-2009, 00:49:29</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">After a few moments, he straightened and rinsed himself off.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>...then it would be somewhat illogical to assume that Jaxon and Vincent are in the Common Room.&nbsp; Unless, of course, one regularly takes a shower there?&nbsp; &nbsp;:-)<br><br>As GF's response to being asked to edit an otherwise good post to remove an unfortunate error was to delete it, I'd say the point is moot.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>06-08-2009, 06:34:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				yes i removed it... 95 percent of the post centered around Vincent and Jaxon so i need to rewrite the post and had not had time yet. i look back over the last 24 post and just saw that you guys were having sex. when there is 9 pages no one should have to read through it all to know where you were at. Since there isn't alot of scenery description in those posts then posting here you are at at the top will be very helpful
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GrinningHound</strong> on <strong>06-08-2009, 08:44:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				The library, potions room, dining hall, auditorium, etc, aren't going to be used often enough to have a different thread for every room.&nbsp; I think putting it all in a thread called "Castle" or something would be best.&nbsp; Then we have grounds/island and Castle and the individual common rooms.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>06-08-2009, 15:33:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Library thread's been converted to general castle thread (for now, the main dining hall is the New Year's Beginning thread):<br><br>http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=43774.0 (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=43774.0) - general castle stuff<br><br>Just for note, we're at 375 IC posts (or 37.5% of the way toward a child board).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GrinningHound</strong> on <strong>07-08-2009, 00:23:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				So, if my character wants to start a club or advertise a gathering or event or something, how do I do it?&nbsp; Since we can't put up flyers on campus for some reason.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>07-08-2009, 00:59:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				right now i would suggest you give the game time so that you don't piss Vivienne off. Push her too far and your character will find himself out of a job.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GrinningHound</strong> on <strong>07-08-2009, 01:36:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Haha, don't worry.&nbsp; I've got stuff to do for a while yet.&nbsp; :D&nbsp; This would a thing for later, I was just planning ahead.<br><br><br>But, that's not something Vivienne would deal with.&nbsp; She deals with DADA stuff, this is overall school rules, of which, there aren't many.&nbsp; I can't imagine a school of any sort without newspapers and bulletin boards and people running around putting up flyers that say "Party tonight!" or "Broom for sale!" or "Selling used course books cheap!" or "Leapord pre-game rally on the east grounds!"<br><br><br>Speaking of which, there are shops and bars and stuff around, right?&nbsp; Is alcohol supplied on the grounds anywhere?&nbsp; Are these students paying a tuition and room and board?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Bishrook aka Fate sisters</strong> on <strong>07-08-2009, 01:46:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Also I suspect the headmaster has final word on any firing. Since both parties are newcomers and hiring replacements in time to start instruction would take time the school doesn't have he'd probebly seek to mediate or just rules on the rules.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>07-08-2009, 01:53:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				the situation with GH's character is Vivienne is training him to be a teacher. He's already over stepped his bounds once. If she doesn't feel that he has the qualifications of being a teacher then that ends that. I'm not saying that it will happen... just trying to make sure GH doesn't make it a certain thing :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>07-08-2009, 02:44:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				can we PLEASE put what room/area that we are in at the top of the post? I don't really have time to post today or tomorrow, but I am going to try to catch up on my games. I do not have time to try to figure out where anyone is.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>07-08-2009, 02:48:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				And would MadPanda or Evil Pixie please let me know where they are so i do not have to write a post for the third time? Thanks
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>07-08-2009, 02:58:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Common room for me <br><br>Bed room for Vincent <br><br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>07-08-2009, 03:45:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Thanks. I'm a bit flustered at the moment. There's nothing clicking in my head for this game. It will probably be Friday night/Saturday before I post for this game so I don't hold anyone up.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>07-08-2009, 03:54:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm not getting a post up tonight (gotta do litter boxes and get to bed soon), but I'll hit the OOC stuff (and lots has hit the fan here and elsewhere)<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2111509#msg2111509">Quote from: GrinningHound on 07-08-2009, 01:36:03</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">But, that's not something Vivienne would deal with.&nbsp; She deals with DADA stuff, this is overall school rules, of which, there aren't many.&nbsp; I can't imagine a school of any sort without newspapers and bulletin boards and people running around putting up flyers that say "Party tonight!" or "Broom for sale!" or "Selling used course books cheap!" or "Leapord pre-game rally on the east grounds!"</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Fliers can be an issue . . . well, not flyers themselves so much as the location of fliers.&nbsp; Fliers placed on common room message boards are one thing.&nbsp; Fliers placed on the exterior walls of the castle (on in the hallways) is quite another.&nbsp; And official fliers put up without the permission of the headmaster or deputy (or in Weyland's case, his superior) are definitely another thing entirely.&nbsp; Game rallies might be a problem, since most matches start in the morning soon after breakfast (seeing as Quidditch matches can last days, weeks, or even months).<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Speaking of which, there are shops and bars and stuff around, right?&nbsp; Is alcohol supplied on the grounds anywhere?&nbsp; Are these students paying a tuition and room and board?</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>The nearest bars, etc. are in Galway, across the bay and off limits to students except as outlined in the start of term speech.&nbsp; Teachers are another story, but we'll deal with that if/when it comes up.&nbsp; As far as alcohol on campus, depends on whether you mean officially or unofficially.&nbsp; <br><br>Re: tuition, etc. the situation is much the same as Hogwarts in the series, e.g. we're ignoring that part.<br><br>Also, please see my previous big post:<br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">since there are potentially seven locations in each dorm -- bedrooms (1st to 5th year classes, so five), common room, and bathroom -- it would be helpful to note at the top of a post where in the dorm the action is taking place.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GrinningHound</strong> on <strong>07-08-2009, 07:01:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ugh...<br><br>I don't know every little rule.&nbsp; My character might, at least with regard to the flier thing.&nbsp; Why would he do that if he knows the policies?<br><br>I think you're dissecting everything too much.&nbsp; I write something, there's a reason it can't happen.<br><br>I think I might wanna back out of this game, it's not exactly my style, is all.<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>07-08-2009, 13:33:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				you know i would hate to see it come to that.<br><br>I don't know of any school that doesn't require an application with faculty to form clubs. A party might be different depending on how big it is. Then there are usually designated places where you can put flyers.<br><br>My only concern so far is that you back my character into a corner with her choices concerning your character before they have a chance to talk. <br><br>There has only been perhaps an hour passed (and that's stretching) since they've landed on school grounds and your doing a huge amount of planning when normal human process would be to introduce yourself (character) to others and get to know them.&nbsp; It seems that you've put enough planning into the game for the progressing to need to be weeks, not hours. Perhaps if you slow down to everyone elses speed you will end up getting what you want anyway through role play.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>07-08-2009, 19:58:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2113175#msg2113175">Quote from: GothicFires on 07-08-2009, 13:33:00</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I don't know of any school that doesn't require an application with faculty to form clubs. A party might be different depending on how big it is. Then there are usually designated places where you can put flyers.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>This is indeed the case.&nbsp; Every school I've ever attended or worked at (seven at last count) or attended conferences at/visited (three at least count) has only had certain places for fliers.&nbsp; Some broader than others - ex. the college I attended as an undergrad had special bulletin boards only, my last allowed them on interior walls, the current has bulletin boards in the foyers, halls, and classrooms (the distraction is annoying, from a faculty perspective, but administrators make the rules and never enter classrooms).&nbsp; And official fliers representing events sponsored, or implied to be sponsored, by the administration definitely require admin approval at any institution, academic or otherwise.&nbsp; Which for our purposes means a role-playing opportunity.&nbsp; :)<br><br>Same goes with club formation.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I think you're dissecting everything too much.&nbsp; I write something, there's a reason it can't happen.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Haven't done any dissecting, at all.&nbsp; And the second statement's false as well (see posts below), unless the "I write something" happens to be something that's a) physically impossible in the setting (e.g. violates the setting's laws of physics/magic), b) violates the spirit of the setting, or c) makes no sense (e.g. regular, public, trips out of a supposedly secret and technically illegal location).
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GrinningHound</strong> on <strong>07-08-2009, 22:56:50</strong>
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				Well, it's been more than an hour, for my character at least.<br><br>I like to DO stuff in RP's.&nbsp; It's fun.&nbsp; I'm sure I'll meet the other characters later.&nbsp; It's only the first night.<br><br>I'm not sure why there's an issue in the first place.<br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2113894#msg2113894">Quote from: Vandren on 07-08-2009, 19:58:47</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">This is indeed the case.&nbsp; Every school I've ever attended or worked at (seven at last count) or attended conferences at/visited (three at least count) has only had certain places for fliers.&nbsp; Some broader than others - ex. the college I attended as an undergrad had special bulletin boards only, my last allowed them on interior walls, the current has bulletin boards in the foyers, halls, and classrooms (the distraction is annoying, from a faculty perspective, but administrators make the rules and never enter classrooms).&nbsp; And official fliers representing events sponsored, or implied to be sponsored, by the administration definitely require admin approval at any institution, academic or otherwise.&nbsp; Which for our purposes means a role-playing opportunity.&nbsp; :)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>First of all, I would have put the flyers in the acceptable locations.&nbsp; My character has gone to this school for 4 years, he knows where he can and can't put flyers.&nbsp; Second, the course being advertised <em>WAS</em> approved by administration.&nbsp; The Headmaster a<em>llowed me to come to the school and teach the course</em>.&nbsp; What more approval do I need?&nbsp; Just because Vivienne doesn't like it doesn't mean it wasn't an <em>entirely acceptable</em> thing to do.<br><br>I'm not backing you into a corner at all.&nbsp; Your character has taken it upon herself to challenge mine, so I'm going to respond to it.&nbsp; It wouldn't be much fun if you were to decide that no, I'm not allowed to teach my class.&nbsp; She could have said "Oh, that looks interesting, perhaps I'll come to a few classes and see what you're doing."<br><br>This is the character I want to play, and was accepted into the game with.&nbsp; I should hope I will be allowed to play him in the capacity that he was designed, whether or not another character ranks above him.<br><br><br>I had a fun idea for the first night that would have involved as many other players as wanted to be involved.&nbsp; But now I have to do something else.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>07-08-2009, 23:42:02</strong>
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				i stopped following your thread at the point where you too max to the library to do 'secret' research. That is the part that would get you in trouble with Vivienne if she knew. Just for a glimpse into what your conversation would go like with Vivienne... you wouldn't be allowed to tutor or teach until you had proven to her that you could teach based on her requirements and that would first mean teaching her. <br><br>i am trying to avoid your postings that do not involve my characters because they do not know and should not know what you are doing. I do not want to force a discovery. If you want to plan a party then why don't you post the idea in ooc and see if it is a direction that everyone would like to go
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>07-08-2009, 23:56:07</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2114396#msg2114396">Quote from: GrinningHound on 07-08-2009, 22:56:50</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">First of all, I would have put the flyers in the acceptable locations.&nbsp; My character has gone to this school for 4 years, he knows where he can and can't put flyers.&nbsp; Second, the course being advertised <em>WAS</em> approved by administration.&nbsp; The Headmaster a<em>llowed me to come to the school and teach the course</em>.&nbsp; What more approval do I need? </blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>That's not actually the case.&nbsp; You posted Weyland walking around the courtyard putting up posters outside.&nbsp; :)&nbsp; (And carrying around a sword, for that matter, which was the primary issue for the mod/GM.)<br><br>I don't recall anything about the "course" being approved by the administration.&nbsp; Had Weyland approached Thomas, he'd likely have been sent to Vivienne for approval.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I had a fun idea for the first night that would have involved as many other players as wanted to be involved.&nbsp; But now I have to do something else.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Basic online forum etiquette and typical practice (at least on every site I've been on in the last 12 years) would suggest bouncing such ideas off the group as a whole in OOC, which is exactly what the thread is here for.&nbsp; That way, you can gauge interest, people can help develop the idea, and any setting related issues can be ironed out, thus avoiding problems.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GrinningHound</strong> on <strong>08-08-2009, 02:33:48</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				So, you're saying there's no areas for flyers in the courtyard?&nbsp; Have you ever BEEN to a college campus?&nbsp; There are posts and boards and stuff everywhere.<br><br>Also, in that case, you, as the GM, say "Flyers can't be posted in the courtyard." and I, as a player, say "Oh, then they go wherever they're allowed, instead" and we all move on instead of making a big deal out of nothing.<br><br>Also, why would Weyland BE at the school, if he hadn't spoken to the Headmaster and gotten approval ahead of time?<br><br><br>GF, there's NOTHING wrong with going to the library to research things.&nbsp; That's what you DO at a SCHOOL.&nbsp; There was nothing shady or illegal about the research topics, either.<br><br>Doesn't seem like there's a whole lot more that can prove that someone is good at teaching than by <em>taking students to the library and getting them interested in the topic.</em>&nbsp; As a teacher herself your character would be a fool to get upset about that.<br><br><br><br>I'm out of the game.&nbsp; Thanks for being accepting and welcoming.<br><br>Sorry DoctorWhy.&nbsp; :(&nbsp; I thought I was doing something cool but if it's all going to just give people more reason to shut down my ideas then I can't continue.<br><br><br>GF, I'm very annoyed.&nbsp; I didn't do anything to step on your toes, but you seemed to think it appropriate to make playing the character I want to play unreasonable stressful.&nbsp; I thought we were RPing for fun here, I don't want to have to prove myself to anyone.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>08-08-2009, 02:53:47</strong>
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				*sigh* I am not 100 percent certain. I would have to ask my sister but I am pretty sure that in the six years she went to school for her masters that her first day at college (each year) when she was moving her gear in and getting settled and meeting the new and old people in her dorm that she never went to the library on that day. <br><br>Weyland would have gotten permission to be an apprentice to Vivienne. Not make course curriculum or DADA clubs or seminars. Vandren and I tried to make it clear to you in pms but it seemed you were more instant about creating battles than role playing and perhaps earning what you wanted to do instead of having it happen instantly. Perhaps you could have taken the time to build Vivienne's trust, which would have taken more role play time than walking off being sarcastic about flyers. It also took me as odd that I put in my back ground that Vivienne enjoyed fencing and you have your character fight with swords. Also when we asked if you would be willing to loose a duel you never answered.&nbsp; <br><br>I wasn't trying to judge you or prevent you from doing anything. I was simply trying to get you to slow down. You should be able to reasonably see why it felt like you were pushing and trying to force things to being the way you wanted instead of giving role play a chance. <br><br>I will go with a previous statement. I would like you to be in the game but I honestly think that one on ones will be better for you.<br>
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GrinningHound</strong> on <strong>08-08-2009, 03:02:49</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm not 100% certain, but when your sister went to college, if she wanted to go to the library on the first day, she could have gone at her leisure.<br><br>I made my character interested in swords because A) I like swords and B) I thought it would be fun for both of our characters to be into fencing.&nbsp; So they could fence together.<br><br>I didn't want to play an apprentice.&nbsp; I made my character old enough and experienced enough to be a teacher in his own right.&nbsp; I opted to work under Vivienne, I could just as well have been a Charms professor.&nbsp; I didn't think I would have to work for it.<br><br>Why should I have to earn anything?&nbsp; It's a GAME.&nbsp; I want to relax, have some fun writing.&nbsp; I have enough stress to deal with.&nbsp; You're allowed to create a character that's a full professor, you didn't EARN anything.&nbsp; Why should you make me?&nbsp; Seems unfair.&nbsp; <br><br>We're all here to <em>have fun</em> RPing.&nbsp; Why do I have to work to prove myself to anyone?
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>08-08-2009, 03:15:17</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				yes. its a game where I had already went through the time to create the character for the Defense against the dark arts instructor. so a college might have more than one professor in a curriculum but this one doesn't if only for the fact that with such few players there wouldn't be a need for more than one. if you would have chosen to be the charms professor then that would have been the polite thing as a player to do. It's something the game actually needs... that or a potions professor.<br><br>but no... you were pushing your way into a position that we let you know had already been filled. We compromised letting him be under Vivienne... A character I had originally created when there didn't look like there would be too many in the game and there were more male characters than female. I had not planned on playing two characters in this game but I took the time to create another one and committed to playing her. Being under her and not an apprentice&nbsp; still wouldn't have given him rights to plan curriculum, clubs or seminars. Even letting him work under Vivienne was a compromise on my part not to just say... sorry but you're stepping on my territory. <br><br>apparently since you couldn't have fun unless everything is as you wanted it, then it is good to move on.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GrinningHound</strong> on <strong>08-08-2009, 03:19:40</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, you win.&nbsp; I am no longer playing.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>08-08-2009, 05:02:24</strong>
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				Ok, I didn't want to have to deal with this stuff just before bed and after a pretty crappy day but . . . oh well.&nbsp; <br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2114969#msg2114969">Quote from: GrinningHound on 08-08-2009, 02:33:48</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">So, you're saying there's no areas for flyers in the courtyard?&nbsp; Have you ever BEEN to a college campus?&nbsp; There are posts and boards and stuff everywhere.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>1) This fictional school is not a "real" college.&nbsp; Nor is it actually a college.&nbsp; As was stated numerous times in PMs.&nbsp; 2) Yes, as noted previously I've been on nine U.S. college campuses (three as a student, technically four as employee, one as a conference attendee, three as a visitor), two Irish university campuses (as visitor and tourist), and one Canadian university campus (as conference attendee).&nbsp; That's a grand total of 12 years on college campuses as either/both a student and/or employee.&nbsp; In fact, I'm currently teaching on one.&nbsp; 3) That's all beside the point.&nbsp; This group is in the Potterverse and as such follows the Potterverse's rules, which includes where things get posted.&nbsp; Besides which, posting things on the exterior wall of a 1000+ year old castle's just a bad idea to begin with.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Also, in that case, you, as the GM, say "Flyers can't be posted in the courtyard." and I, as a player, say "Oh, then they go wherever they're allowed, instead" and we all move on instead of making a big deal out of nothing.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Actually, you're the one making a big deal out of things.&nbsp; Neither I nor GF said a darn thing about that until you brought it up.&nbsp; Her character reacted IC to what her character saw.&nbsp; As GM/Mod, I reacted to something entirely different (Weyland openly carrying a sword, and that via PM, I might add), although present in the same post.&nbsp; Deal with it.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Also, why would Weyland BE at the school, if he hadn't spoken to the Headmaster and gotten approval ahead of time?</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>That's nowhere near what was stated or the issue.&nbsp; The issue of approval was a potential course.&nbsp; Weyland would be at the school as a trainee teacher, which is the proposed character you gave me.&nbsp; That doesn't mean he starts teaching his own classes automatically.&nbsp; Nor does it grant instant IC approval for said ideas.&nbsp; In fact, as I recall from PMs regarding this issue, I said, "sure you can run that by Vivienne IC" or something to that effect.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I didn't do anything to step on your toes</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>This is entirely true.&nbsp; OOC.&nbsp; However, IC, your character did step on IC toes.&nbsp; And IC actions have IC consequences.&nbsp; If you can't handle that or keep IC and OOC separate, it's your problem.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I didn't want to play an apprentice.&nbsp; I made my character old enough and experienced enough to be a teacher in his own right.&nbsp; I opted to work under Vivienne, I could just as well have been a Charms professor.&nbsp; I didn't think I would have to work for it.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>That's not the profile you sent to me in PMs.&nbsp; The profile you sent was an assistant, a new young assistant.&nbsp; And assistants often have to work.&nbsp; Besides which, as noted, you knew the DADA position was filled IC and could have chosen something else if you wanted the character to have more autonomy.&nbsp; But, you didn't.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Why should I have to earn anything?&nbsp; It's a GAME.&nbsp; I want to relax, have some fun writing.&nbsp; I have enough stress to deal with.&nbsp; You're allowed to create a character that's a full professor, you didn't EARN anything.&nbsp; Why should you make me?&nbsp; Seems unfair. </blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Every character has to earn something, that's part of RP-ing and plot/writing.&nbsp; If characters don't earn things, there's not plot and nothing interesting in the story.<br><br>So, why should your character have to earn things?&nbsp; 1) Because that's what characters do.&nbsp; You think LotR would be interesting if Aragorn just walked into Gondor on page 15 and said "Hey, I'm king", nope, it'd be dull.&nbsp; Or if Sherlock Holmes was handed the solution to the crime on page one?&nbsp; There'd be no story.&nbsp; 2) Because you wanted to make a character who was effectively a student, albeit an advanced one, and who could be seen, IC, as challenging (IC) someone (IC) who was already more established (IC) than your character.&nbsp; Again, IC decisions have IC consequences.<br><br>(Also PM-ing this to be safe.)
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>08-08-2009, 14:44:13</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Unpleasantness aside . . . <br><br>I think we'll move to morning on Tuesday (8/11), just so there's warning for the still active scenes.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DoctorWhy</strong> on <strong>08-08-2009, 18:16:47</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Well this sure leaves me in an awkward position. This unpleasantness is gonna be pretty hard to put aside for Max, as he's now outside the greenhouse talking to no one. It'd be very much preferable if GH came back, but failing that, could anyone advise me on what to do?
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>08-08-2009, 18:22:07</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				I would say move to your dorm now and then when tues comes you can go where ever you are supposed to do 
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>08-08-2009, 21:16:22</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2116619#msg2116619">Quote from: DoctorWhy on 08-08-2009, 18:16:47</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Well this sure leaves me in an awkward position. This unpleasantness is gonna be pretty hard to put aside for Max, as he's now outside the greenhouse talking to no one. It'd be very much preferable if GH came back, but failing that, could anyone advise me on what to do?</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I've got something in mind for that.&nbsp; I just haven't had a chance to get online for IC posting yet.&nbsp; Something should be up by this evening (EDT).
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>09-08-2009, 06:06:59</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Vandren if you want I can have Jaxon take a run and meet him out side ..She always seeking fresh air anyhow 
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GrinningHound</strong> on <strong>09-08-2009, 08:27:45</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Curses.<br><br>I had a good day today.&nbsp; More or less certain that I got a job.&nbsp; :D<br><br>Sooo...horrible mood abated for the time, I have a good idea.<br><br>Vandren and GF, I'll PM you with something awesome I wanna plan.&nbsp; :D
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>10-08-2009, 20:45:00</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2118379#msg2118379">Quote from: DarkAngel on 09-08-2009, 06:06:59</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Vandren if you want I can have Jaxon take a run and meet him out side ..She always seeking fresh air anyhow</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Go right ahead, she can help with getting Weyland to the infirmary.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>10-08-2009, 20:49:13</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2118653#msg2118653">Quote from: GrinningHound on 09-08-2009, 08:27:45</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Curses.<br><br>I had a good day today.&nbsp; More or less certain that I got a job.&nbsp; :D<br><br>Sooo...horrible mood abated for the time, I have a good idea.<br><br>Vandren and GF, I'll PM you with something awesome I wanna plan.&nbsp; :D</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Sorry, I'm not playing OOC games. I'm definitely not playing the "I'm out" . . . two days later "by the way I'm back in" game.<br><br>Because of dealing with various things, especially the "drama" (for lack of a better word) here I ended up taking the last 36 hours and staying away from the interwebs aside from what was necessary for work.<br><br>I'll PM a deal, but in the meantime, I'll be ignoring your IC posts (including the most recent one) and running Weyland as an NPC.&nbsp; (By the way, courtesy to GMs should be shown by at least waiting for GM approval before coming back IC after storming away like that.)
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>10-08-2009, 20:50:17</strong>
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				Side note . . . and this applies to <em>EVERYONE</em>:<br><br>If you have a problem with another player (and I don't care who it is), discuss the issue with myself and the player in PMs.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GrinningHound</strong> on <strong>10-08-2009, 21:05:30</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Your deal is crappy.&nbsp; I had a great idea that would have been fun for everyone.<br><br>I'm no longer playing, for real this time.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>10-08-2009, 21:51:51</strong>
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				The point of the deal was/is to allow time for everyone involved to calm down, cool off, and hopefully get on with things with more level heads.&nbsp; But, if you're just going to dismiss it out of hand, that's your call.&nbsp; It's a good way to cool things off OOC and still allow the character to be played IC.&nbsp; Either way, it'll happen IC.<br><br>Personally, I've had an incredibly frustrating and annoying couple days, even to the point of considering shutting down the group/game and restarting from scratch (for multiple reasons).&nbsp; So far, I've proven too stubborn (and too tired/busy) to seriously consider acting upon the thought.&nbsp; And, yes, that's partially because of a few things of my own doing, for which I take responsibility (and keep exactly what those elements are to myself).
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>11-08-2009, 05:45:18</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2123304#msg2123304">Quote from: Vandren on 10-08-2009, 20:45:00</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Go right ahead, she can help with getting Weyland to the infirmary.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>That is one of your Chars Correct 
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>11-08-2009, 18:49:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Weyland has become an NPC, who'll be spending an unspecified amount of time in the infirmary (this being written out without being killed, so he can come back if necessary/desired).<br><br>If folks don't mind, I think we'll push "tomorrow" IC back to tomorrow OOC (Wednesday).&nbsp; It's my long day at work, but I'll try to get a quick day change post up before leaving in the morning.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>12-08-2009, 22:23:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I was going to post here last night but i have been with out internet for about 23 hours. I'll wait for the time change.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>13-08-2009, 04:26:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Time change occurred at 0700 EDT (main New Year thread).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>13-08-2009, 04:29:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				So is there only certain classes going on or can we say what class we are going to ?<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>13-08-2009, 14:52:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				With classes, I don't see a need to play out each class unless people want to.&nbsp; Multiple classes are certain to be going on at the same time (since not every student will be signed up for every class).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>17-08-2009, 22:00:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				My apologies on being slow with IC stuff.&nbsp; Between work, the weather, and a few other things, posting's been getting nudged to the side repeatedly and by the time there's time, I'm ready to sleep.&nbsp; I will definitely get something up tonight (EDT), probably after 2200.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>21-08-2009, 19:11:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry for posting delays and all.&nbsp; We just wrapped up the eighth week of our ten week quarter and there've been all sorts of attendance and other issues with my students this quarter (now many are madly scrabbling to try to pass after missing 25%-75% of the class sessions, as usual).<br><br>Anyhew . . .
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DoctorWhy</strong> on <strong>22-08-2009, 11:15:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Heh, Max is kind of all on his own in his dorm. XD Sorry that I'm not interacting much, but I'm trying to think of a way to get him into the fun without breaking character. I sort of dug myself into a hole. :P<br><br>So please, pardon me while I mentally hash this out..
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Bishrook aka Fate sisters</strong> on <strong>23-08-2009, 07:07:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2158635#msg2158635">Quote from: DoctorWhy on 22-08-2009, 11:15:54</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Heh, Max is kind of all on his own in his dorm. XD Sorry that I'm not interacting much, but I'm trying to think of a way to get him into the fun without breaking character. I sort of dug myself into a hole. :P<br><br>So please, pardon me while I mentally hash this out..<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>I am sort of in the same boat. I've just decided to interact in the halls and classrooms.<br>There is nothing that says you can't make friends outside your dorm.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>24-08-2009, 01:35:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				No worries.&nbsp; I'll get something together in the next few days, once I recover from today (wife's family reunion 2-3 hour drive away).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>24-08-2009, 05:18:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just to be forwarned I might be getting surgery .. Any one want to give me a heart or kidney <br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>24-08-2009, 19:39:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Good luck, and best wishes.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2163198#msg2163198">Quote from: DarkAngel on 24-08-2009, 05:18:28</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Any one want to give me a heart</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I would, but I'm kinda using both of mine right now . . . oops, right, silly humans only have one heart . . . I mean "I'm using mine right now."&nbsp; &nbsp;;D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>24-08-2009, 22:11:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well in that case can I have your soul 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Bishrook aka Fate sisters</strong> on <strong>30-08-2009, 05:11:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Seems slow and I have not been fast so I am not throwing stones.<br><br>I listed three classes for Jessica.<br>Second year Runes <br>Advanced class in Transfiguration<br>Care of Magical creatures class<br><br>Does anyone want to work together in telling a story about any of these classes?<br>Are their other classes that players would suggest she take so as to tell stories there?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DoctorWhy</strong> on <strong>30-08-2009, 18:38:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry, I just moved, so I had a lot to do. Back now!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>30-08-2009, 21:55:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry for my own delays, I'm behind on PMs and e-mail.&nbsp; End of the quarter coming up and all that (and still no course request sheets for next quarter, which is only 4 weeks away).&nbsp; And wife's computer (Mac) virtually died yesterday, so that was ~12 hours of fun.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>01-09-2009, 22:34:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Vandren please pm what the parchment is so I can understand thank&nbsp; you darling 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DoctorWhy</strong> on <strong>01-09-2009, 23:25:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ditto. Or just post it for us. :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>01-09-2009, 23:47:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Doc it seems me and you might be on a quest lol 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DoctorWhy</strong> on <strong>02-09-2009, 07:06:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm guessing more of a "What the hell happened to my Professor-in-training" summons. XD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>02-09-2009, 07:08:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				LOL well I did save you ... So maybe I'm supposed to help you lol 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DoctorWhy</strong> on <strong>03-09-2009, 05:02:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, we'll have to wait and see. Looks like Vandren's got a lot on his plate, but that's fine, so do I, and I'm sure we all do in our own ways. XD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>03-09-2009, 15:14:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Private messages sent, all four, and one RL crisis averted as the department apparently assigned classes without request sheets and didn't bother telling most of us (the up side, increased contact/credit hours next quarter means increased pay, woohoo).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>09-09-2009, 02:10:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry for not posting in over a week. The perfect storm of life... 1) i had to get invitations out for my sisters wedding shower 2) my mom had errands for me to do for her job which I get a little money for 3) I don't sleep well which makes my brain cut out at odd times.<br><br>things should be back to normal for a while.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>10-09-2009, 00:54:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Vandren when ever you are ready we are waiting in the office *Grins* I can't be sure if its going to accidently get destroyed or not .. This is jaxon the clutz we are talking about lol <br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>10-09-2009, 01:36:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				A couple concerns, mostly an extremely annoying, aggravating, and inconsiderate parent (of a student) had to be dealt with.&nbsp; The less said there, the better.&nbsp; Let's just say that I hope she and I never meet face to face.&nbsp; End of the quarter crap as well, but grades are all posted save one.<br><br>And, finally, perhaps most importantly, I didn't want to run too fast for the others.&nbsp; Especially since the meeting's not until late morning (after some classes, since I doubt they're all having breakfast at 10:45).&nbsp; :)&nbsp; But, seeing as not much time has advanced IC . . .<br><br>Since we only have on PC teacher, I think it best to skim through classes, if they actually appear at all, except for DADA.&nbsp; If that means fast forwarding, so be it.&nbsp; If it means that students "go", "participate in" and "leave" class with references to NPC teachers, that's cool too.<br><br>With that in mind, I think I'll create and "Offices" thread for generic office stuff with NPC teachers (Vivienne can have her own as desired/needed, as can future PC teachers).<br><br>Thread's here: http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=46833.0 (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=46833.0)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>10-09-2009, 01:39:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ahh.. Tough day at the office I see .. <br><br>Well in that case it works out lol .. I really didn't want to sit and write how I'm bored in glass and rather be somewhere else lol <br><br>Sorry couldn't help my self ... Anyhow .. off to do what ever you want your the boss <br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>10-09-2009, 23:29:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Have a new player working on the approval process for a Hyena dorm 4th year student, just a few things to tweak and he should be up and running.<br><br>And I think there's a rtj from a newbie as well, although I'm not 100% sure.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>10-09-2009, 23:41:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Some clear direction for the rest of us would be nice, too, please.<br>Or at least an NPC to talk to in the meantime or something.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>11-09-2009, 00:25:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ok, definitely two new players interested and working up characters.<br><br>Re: direction . . . I'll get on it ASAP.&nbsp; If anyone has suggestions or whatnot, those'd be great too.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>11-09-2009, 00:25:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Thanks--while Vincent is not the most proactive fellow when there's plotting to be done, everyone he was talking to has left...&nbsp; :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>11-09-2009, 00:28:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				We'll go ahead and get "class time" going, and I'll get a definite plotline going after "lunch".&nbsp; So it's not major happenings five minutes after breakfast on day one . . . five minutes after lunch though, ya'll's students better be fully acclimated.&nbsp; ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DeviantMunster</strong> on <strong>11-09-2009, 04:34:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hello everyone! I'm the new addition to this group. Hope we can get along!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>11-09-2009, 04:36:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh, yes, teachers . . . make sure Jeanne is in her uniform, rather than other attire.<br><br>If she isn't, you can punish her howsoever you desire.&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;:)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Korbl</strong> on <strong>11-09-2009, 05:32:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				hey all, Vandren's going over my character, discussing with me one of the things I wanted him to be known for, still waiting to see... well, frankly, how much Van's willing to let me get away with.<br><br>Hell, Van, thanks for being (At least moderately) cool with his Lineage.<br><br>What all subjects haven't had teachers named or characterized yet? I know DADA and, apparently Herbology (there goes my faculty idea...), I do want to play a teacher, I just need to figure out the subject. And some kind of Lesson Plan...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DeviantMunster</strong> on <strong>11-09-2009, 05:34:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hello! Hope you make it in, we could use some more teachers. I'm still reading through the pages upon pages of information, and once I understand where I'll be going, I'll post.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>11-09-2009, 05:57:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Herbology can be swapped out.&nbsp; Prof. Winn can be called away and replaced with a "temporary" substitute, there's definite precedent.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>11-09-2009, 06:55:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Welcome aboard .. Beware of the wolf she don't bite .. but she likes to sneak up on you&nbsp; &gt;:)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>11-09-2009, 15:57:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yes indeed.&nbsp; Wolf is frisky.&nbsp; &nbsp;:-)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>12-09-2009, 17:50:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				i've been suffering bouts of migraines and nausea this week. I also sprained my ankle thursday and had to do alot of errands for my mother yesterday. My leg hurts from my ankle to my hip. I haven't been up for 3 hours and I am already exhausted and dizzy. My desire to post is nill. I am hoping to be more inspired after I get back home sometime night but it might be tomorrow before I do.<br><br>for the first period session perhaps we should decide how the characters are going to group up. So far all i have seen definite is that Max and Eirawen have herbology. Anyone is welcome to join that. <br><br>Vivenne is open for any who want Dada class or tutoring. then perhaps at the next class we can determine how to group again.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>13-09-2009, 05:12:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yep, there has been a question about class order.<br><br>I think for that, since characters can take classes that aren't in their year, scheduling can be somewhat fluid.&nbsp; Here's what we've established so far (for Mondays, IC):<br><br>Period 1: Herbology (first year)<br>Period 2: DADA (second year)<br>Period 3: Transfiguration (second year)<br>Break - Lunch<br>Period 4: Ancient Runes (second year)<br>Period 5: History of Magic (third year)<br>Period 6: Potions (first year)<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Korbl</strong> on <strong>13-09-2009, 06:34:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				well, there is now a fourth year, who has a free day unless Period 7 turns out to be a 4th year class, or possibly third year herbology or potions...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>13-09-2009, 17:30:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				the way brian's post was it appeared if there were 4 classes during the day. 8 classes may make the progression of the day to the next or to free time difficult to get to. With 4 classes there are 7 segments: morning, 2 classes, lunch, 2 classes and evening. with 8 classes that would bring it to 11. <br><br>I was thinking that if we group up for those classes that don't have a pc teacher that the players can keep the teacher on the outskirts of their post to keep Vandren's post load down.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>13-09-2009, 23:51:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2227783#msg2227783">Quote from: Korbl on 13-09-2009, 06:34:08</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">well, there is now a fourth year, who has a free day unless Period 7 turns out to be a 4th year class, or possibly third year herbology or potions...</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Those aren't all the classes in the day, just the classes that have been mentioned so far IC.<br><br>Oh, and I'm cutting down to six class periods a day (MWF at least, perhaps double periods on TH)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Korbl</strong> on <strong>14-09-2009, 00:05:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2230020#msg2230020">Quote from: Vandren on 13-09-2009, 23:51:06</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Those aren't all the classes in the day, just the classes that have been mentioned so far IC.<br><br>Oh, and I'm cutting down to six class periods a day (MWF at least, perhaps double periods on TH)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Ah, gotcha.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DeviantMunster</strong> on <strong>14-09-2009, 01:20:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Soo confusing. I suppose I'll just have the exact class schedule as someone or something!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>14-09-2009, 02:01:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				its not really confusing. the simple part of it is that for the first period we have to figure out how we are going to group together. <br><br>The first and second years can mix in the same class. The 4th year can have a dada class if he would like though how to make his next 5 classes after that i'm not certain how he can get pc interaction
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Korbl</strong> on <strong>14-09-2009, 03:37:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2230319#msg2230319">Quote from: GothicFires on 14-09-2009, 02:01:20</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">its not really confusing. the simple part of it is that for the first period we have to figure out how we are going to group together. <br><br>The first and second years can mix in the same class. The 4th year can have a dada class if he would like though how to make his next 5 classes after that i'm not certain how he can get pc interaction<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Yeah, my character's classes are probably going to be "time passes, Bodrak has classes" treatment until more people join with fourth or third year characters.<br><br>I've been thinking he could conceivably lurk the 1st/2nd year herbology and potions classes just to keep the subjects fresh in his mind since they're his weak points, even though he'd be taking 3rd year herb. and potions.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>14-09-2009, 04:03:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				With this set up, it's entirely possible for someone to have classes a year (or possibly two years) above or a couple years below their class level.&nbsp; Someone with an "O" in a subject at NEWT level could be a level or two above, someone pretty low say an "A" or lower at the OWL level could take a year or three lower (especially if NEWT level, say, Herbology was required for the job they'd want).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Korbl</strong> on <strong>14-09-2009, 04:23:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That's about what I figured.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Bishrook aka Fate sisters</strong> on <strong>15-09-2009, 07:59:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry folks about my absence though the pace seems slow enough theat I didn't miss much. I take it I am allowed to meet people in the hallways? I am still not clear as to how we are going to the class schedules but I suppose we can just have meetings over lunch and in the library or the main hall.<br>&nbsp;Any of you who want to 'bump into' Jessica just do so.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>15-09-2009, 18:40:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sounds good, Bish.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>16-09-2009, 20:44:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				just a reminder. the 'new years beginning' thread is really the Main Hall. If you have left the main hall and gone into the corridors then there is the Castle thread. And please put at the top where you are in the thread that you are posting in. This not only makes a difference for people like me who are sleep deprived and sometimes 10 posts behind but it will be less confusion for those who come aboard in the future and if we need to researching something we have already posted.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>16-09-2009, 22:24:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2240516#msg2240516">Quote from: GothicFires on 16-09-2009, 20:44:29</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">the 'new years beginning' thread is really the Main Hall.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>This is true, at the moment, but the action I'm seeing IC is close enough to the Main Hall that it should be fine.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>20-09-2009, 06:05:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just for note, with Jaxon and Max: the events in the New Year's Beginning and Castle threads occur roughly three hours <em>before</em> their meeting with Professor Winn.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>20-09-2009, 06:07:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ok Got it 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>20-09-2009, 16:39:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Now that my sister's party is over I shouldn't be so slow in posting. My next major event is her wedding which will require me to go to florida and then I will be spending a few days with a friend in Alabama. that will be sometime between October 11th and 24th. not the entire time. I just don't know exactly when i am leaving or coming back. I should have access to the internet during that time. i just don't know how busy I will be
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>20-09-2009, 22:17:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I started two threads<br><br>dada office and class (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=47754.0)<br>Herbology class (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=47757.0)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>21-09-2009, 23:27:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just so everyone knows . . . I probably won't be posting IC this week.<br><br>My wife's grandfather was in the hospital all of last week, much of that time in an induced coma.&nbsp; He died sometime early Sunday morning, with the funeral set for Friday.&nbsp; And then the fun begins, since one of the three kids is not living in reality (and had been sponging/living off her parents for the last 20-some years) and his widow has mid to late stage Alzheimers.&nbsp; Fortunately, the borderline wacko kid (wife's aunt) does not have PoA and her older brother will hopefully beat her to the punch on getting guardianship of their mother, but that's probably going to be challenged come Saturday or Monday.&nbsp; <br><br>In short: grandfather-in-law died, funeral out of town on Friday, legal battles start a week from today.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>21-09-2009, 23:33:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				sorry for your family's loss
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>22-09-2009, 01:22:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Damn Van, I wish you luck and I send my prayers . I hope it all will work out 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DoctorWhy</strong> on <strong>22-09-2009, 05:48:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Shit man, sorry to hear it. You'll be in my prayers as well, and I wish you and yours the best.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Bishrook aka Fate sisters</strong> on <strong>22-09-2009, 06:14:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I am sorry to hear that and give you my best wishs.<br>That legel stuff is...ummm 'a bad thing'.<br>Family fights are sometimes the worst.<br>Anyway I hope you negotiate your through with the least hassle possible.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>23-09-2009, 20:42:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I have been curious, are students allowed in dorms other then their own?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>23-09-2009, 20:45:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				of course. there might be times when they are the only ones there. just also keep in mind that there are people around that we are not controlling. But it would make sense that if you do not have a class that your Dorm professor and the rest of their students would be in their classes.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Bishrook aka Fate sisters</strong> on <strong>23-09-2009, 23:13:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well i've never been in a hogwarts type dorm but the general rule was that after lights out only residents were to stay. Of course that was 30 years ago.<br>I may be wrong but in the Hp books I don't recall an instance when a member of another dorm was in the common room despite many references to intrahouse romances.<br>But this isn't hogwarts and one it's prime courses is sex education ;).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>23-09-2009, 23:16:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				sorry... i read that wrong
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>24-09-2009, 01:52:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				just to let people know I am going to refrain from posting until Vandren gets back
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Bishrook aka Fate sisters</strong> on <strong>25-09-2009, 22:27:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				570+ and counting!!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>26-09-2009, 15:17:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm more or less back, but need to get caught up and settled in again (hopefully this afternoon, once aikido's over and the fridge is re-stocked).&nbsp; Funeral and visitation hours were pretty good as these things go.&nbsp; There was tension, but people remained reasonably civil.&nbsp; The VFW salute and bagpiper were a nice tribute and such.&nbsp; And there were, as there always are at these things, friends and relatives we haven't seen in quite a while.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2265833#msg2265833">Quote from: thewhitedusk on 23-09-2009, 20:42:25</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I have been curious, are students allowed in dorms other then their own?</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Sure, probably on a temporary basis.&nbsp; The dorms aren't exactly hidden like Hogwarts'.&nbsp; They're associations, sure, but they're meant more as a way to classify orientation-like preferences.&nbsp; So, all the students (or at least those beyond their first week) and faculty know that "Sheep" are subs, etc.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>27-09-2009, 05:04:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2273971#msg2273971">Quote from: bishrook aka fate sisters on 25-09-2009, 22:27:18</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">570+ and counting!!<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>586 by current count.&nbsp; &nbsp;;D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>27-09-2009, 05:11:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Thread list updated, getting IC post up now.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>27-09-2009, 05:13:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				if you would please kindly decide what time it is. One moment we were prepping to do the first period then that was skipped along with second and third to be lunch time.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>27-09-2009, 05:30:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				In order to keep things moving to at least some extent, I have no problem with different threads on different times, as currently follows:<br><br>Herbology Thread - 1st period<br>DADA Thread - 2nd period<br>Offices Thread - 3rd period (~11:00 AM)<br>Grounds - Lunch<br>New Year's - slightly pre-1st period; lunch<br><br>Castle and Dorm threads - currently empty
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>06-10-2009, 21:19:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote from: MadPanda</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">silly knees-bent running about advancing behavior</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Just wanted to say, nice Python reference.&nbsp; &nbsp;:-)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>06-10-2009, 21:21:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Vandren ....When ever you get the time .. I got an idea that might work <br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>06-10-2009, 21:25:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sounds good, send me a PM any time.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>06-10-2009, 22:05:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2313298#msg2313298">Quote from: Vandren on 06-10-2009, 21:19:57</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Just wanted to say, nice Python reference.&nbsp; &nbsp;:-)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>You're welcome!&nbsp; It seemed somehow appropriate.&nbsp; :-)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>12-10-2009, 15:28:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				My apologies for some of my absence.&nbsp; This was paper grading week (50 3-4 pagers), plus a friend's wedding on Saturday, and we had the #2 guy in the organization we're affiliated with teaching a seminar at the dojo.&nbsp; So, general busyness.<br>_______________________________________________________________<br><br>There are a few plot things being hashed out in the PM background and I've got a couple things in mind.&nbsp; But, for the short term . . . is there anyone who needs anything IC (interaction, direction, etc.)?&nbsp; Please say so here, along with the thread your character was last posted in.&nbsp; I'll try to get Herbology and DADA posts up today, as well as something else.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>17-10-2009, 01:56:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I will be gone for the next week , I'm moving to another state so a 30 hour drive is going to fun.. I will see you all again when I get back online 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 19:44:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				No worries.&nbsp; I'm being sporadic lately for some reason (probably family and work stuff getting me into a funk).<br><br>Anyway, good luck with the move and the drive.&nbsp; Hopefully the "moving pixies" won't swipe anything.&nbsp; :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 20:02:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Damn those pixie's if they steal my undies again I'm going to be mad !! LMAO 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 20:06:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				We had some swipe a container of mink oil (leather conditioner) during one move and a couple plastic utensils during another.&nbsp; <br><br>They swiped a bottle of motor oil from a friend's move (and left everything they'd stolen from other people in exchange, from the look of things; the motor oil was from a company that had been out of business for over a decade as of the move date, for one thing).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Bishrook aka Fate sisters</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 07:41:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				761 posts and counting!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>24-10-2009, 01:20:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Mostly recovered from the 24 Hour Black Crud<sup>tm</sup> and getting caught up (it sure beats grading papers)<br><br>I've got 703 . . . is there a thread I'm missing?<br><br>9 = [Beyond Hogwarts] DADA Office &amp; Class Room<br>9 = [Beyond Hogwarts] Herbology Class<br>144 = [Beyond Hogwarts] Grounds and Island<br>251 = [Beyond Hogwarts] New Year's Beginning<br>31 = [Beyond Hogwarts] Castle<br>19 = [Beyond Hogwarts] Offices (NPC Teachers)<br>240 = [Beyond Hogwarts] Fox Dorm<br><br>703 total
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Bishrook aka Fate sisters</strong> on <strong>28-10-2009, 05:24:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry I must have miscounted. In any case we draw slowly closer
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>31-10-2009, 15:50:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Much closer now.&nbsp; :)<br><br>Anyhew . . . sorry for my repeated absences.&nbsp; The quarter's been a little rough as has job hunting and flu season.&nbsp; I will try to do better this week and in the future.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>31-10-2009, 20:57:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just wanted to say three things:<br><br><em>1) People in classes can also post elsewhere (I've got no problem with cross-posting in that circumstance).</em><br><br><strong><em>2) I'd like a bit of a role call to see who is still floating around here since there are a couple I haven't heard from in a while.</em></strong> - anyone who doesn't check in by Friday will have their character "Suspended".<br><br>3) I'm going to get a plot going that will initially require a meeting of the Headmaster, the faculty, and the 6th/5th/4th year students.&nbsp; (Others will be included swiftly, at the discretion of the faculty and upper-class(wo-)men.)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>01-11-2009, 00:54:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm still here... been sick lately
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Bishrook aka Fate sisters</strong> on <strong>01-11-2009, 05:40:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hello everyone!<br><br>Then I'll consult with Mad Panda if it is ok with him&nbsp; I will wrap up the Runes class and we will move to the dining room.<br>My Professor will of course be available for your conclave.<br>Yeah I had a terrible flu for almost two weeks. I can imagine trying to deal with a grad program (??) and deal with that too.<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>01-11-2009, 06:10:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Rolling ahead to suppertime is okay by me.&nbsp; ;D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>01-11-2009, 06:49:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm here , just unpacking .. I should be playing catch up here soon <br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 01:33:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm here
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Bishrook aka Fate sisters</strong> on <strong>03-11-2009, 03:34:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Those of you that would like to have their characters join a bigger group come over to Jessica and Vincent at the Fox table and start a conversation.<br>I,at least will try to answer any tags but I don't want to get into a situation where the slowest player dictates the pace of the roleplay.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>03-11-2009, 03:50:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				unfortunately it would seem that at least half of us, including Vandren are among the 'slowest players' <br><br>It seems likely that the fast players are going to be done with the day before the other classes get played out. I know Vandren has suggested that players can play their characters in two different time zones but that puts more pressure on those of us who don't write as fast and have other life issues to deal with. Not to mention that it disallows something that one characters does in the morning to affect something in the evening because that time has already been passed by other players in the game.<br><br>the only resolution is that when the fast players get ready to end the day the slow players will have to stop their scene and start the next day... then we get to repeat the time disparagement all over again. Its not my idea of a good story or a good time.<br><br>If this is the process that is going to keep repeating itself then its not worth my energy to continue and i would really hate to leave. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Bishrook aka Fate sisters</strong> on <strong>03-11-2009, 04:06:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I am sorry that you feel that way.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>03-11-2009, 04:18:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm not certain how the prospect of having to end scenes early or not fully play the scenes out because other parts of the game are moving over 10 times faster then what you are capable of doing is supposed to make someone feel anything other than frustrated.<br><br>I'll continue in the treads I am in until Vandren gets back and see if there can be a solution so that we are not continuously faced with the prospect of having people ready to end the day when others are still in the morning. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>03-11-2009, 15:05:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2408688#msg2408688">Quote from: Bishrook aka Fate sisters on 03-11-2009, 03:34:27</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I don't want to get into a situation where the slowest player dictates the pace of the roleplay.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I heartily apologize for being the slow one.&nbsp; &nbsp;;D&nbsp; That seems to be my position a lot these days, and is something I'm working on.&nbsp; Sadly, I'm a much better writer and player than online GM (if I do say so myself, in all [false] humility).<br><br>As far as working out different posting rates goes, I'll think about it while raking leaves (in a short while) and post my thoughts a bit later today.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>04-11-2009, 05:20:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Alright, maybe I'm just not in a creative frame today.&nbsp; I've considered the timing subject off and on for a time today and have come to no good ideas, at least none that seem like they'd be workable.&nbsp; So, I suppose I'll throw the floor open for suggestions (provided that they remain civil and whatnot).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>04-11-2009, 05:48:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				The only thing i can see is that we all stay with in the same time frame/period. For those who can and want to post at a faster pace be more detailed in your scenario and slow your game time even though your post rate his still high.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>04-11-2009, 14:56:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That won't work, especially not if some of us are then waiting <span class="bbc_u">for weeks</span> for the slower members to get to their next line in a given scene.&nbsp; I've seen that kill many a game before, both as player and GM, and it's a pain either way.<br><br>Part of the issue here is that we don't have anything resembling a plot (yet), so the game is still in sandbox mode.&nbsp; If there is going to be a plot, then Mister GM needs to tell us where and when all our characters have to be in order for plot to happen.&nbsp; If need be, Mister GM then needs to fast-forward folks to the appropriate scene (and there's nothing wrong with asking folks to wrap something up, or allowing them to finish their current bit at leisure while also being 'present' at another time).<br><br>If this means we have one main story thread under tight directorial control from the GM (with varying locations within, as needed), and multiple side-threads to let us play in the sandbox in between times, then so be it.&nbsp; I've used that set-up before, and while it can get a little messy, it's preferable to losing cast members from boredom.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>04-11-2009, 16:53:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				you could try making more detailed posts instead of quick replies and slowing down to maybe 2 posts a day instead of 15. Each of us should have enough other games and activities to keep from being bored and leaving the slower players behind<br><br>what is the difference between loosing a players from boredom than those frustrated because they can't build a story relationship with other characters that has the possibility of even developing into an over all story plot or loosing people because they are bored?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>04-11-2009, 16:56:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Thank you for attempting to dictate someone else's playing style.<br><br>If you have time to complain, you have time to contribute.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>04-11-2009, 17:06:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				i wasn't complaining about your style. I was suggesting ways that you could compromise and think of the everyone in the game instead of just yourself.<br><br>I cannot make 15 posts a day in the game. Idealy I would post once for each character once a day or every two days. there are 4 players who are some form of the following 1) trying to support their families 2) tied up in committed events and things that pop up that are unexpected 3) sick 4) disabled and sometimes so exhausted or in pain that they can't post even though they want to<br><br>there are 2 people in this game that are fast posting.<br><br>so do we go for a good game or force everyone to road race through it?<br><br>mind you, this isn't personal I am pointing out facts for thought please take it as such.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>06-11-2009, 00:53:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Funny , I'm normally a fast pace player , Only RL has gotten in my way.. I let people know what is happening so they may go around me if need be or Pm me and let me know hey this is where we are at .. Common Courtesy is always needed .. Those that have there own conversation or what not .. I believe sometimes the person needs to put in a plot .. and sometimes little plots help make the story go and become interesting.... <br><br>If you need ideas or people to talk to all you have to do is figure out how to put your self there.. Now as writing styles go .. I'm good with all and this is a great time for character development..... Use it don't go against it ,,, <br><br>This will be the longest longwinded bullshit ever to come out of my mouth *Bleep* <br><br>Runs and hides 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>06-11-2009, 01:12:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				the principle of the game when it was started was magical sexploration. In other words most of the classes covered spells and techniques in a sexual nature. Thus far we haven't been able to explore that because the class periods where brushed over. <br><br>Then you have the goal of your character to consider. My character Vivienne is trying to see if she likes teaching many students at one time in a stationary setting like a school v/s traveling around as a body guard/aurorer and private tutor. Eirawen wants to be a progressive potions maker by combining potions, charms and runes. She has a crush on Brian. They were supposed to have 2nd year runes together but because the time has been rushed to lunch that isn't going to happen.<br><br>Even if we add an over all plot there are still the main point of the game, the combination of sex and magic in the classes, and personal goals that need to be followed. <br><br>I'm not a fast poster. I may post 3 to 5 games a day. and this game is the shortest I ever post for. There are days where i am in so much pain that I don't even do that and those days are getting closer together.<br><br>Also take into consideration Vandren who started the game... He is a teacher, a husband, a father, a martial arts student and an author of his own works whom I believe is trying to create his own world. I have always been in awe of his priorities which rarely let him post every day. I would write with him even if he only posted once a year and consider the effort worth it.<br><br>This is not a complaint about anyone or a knock on anyone's style... but if you are going to spend 15 minutes on this game would it really hurt to spend 15 minutes on one post rather than spread over 5 to 10 posts? Is it really more important how many times you post rather than the story of the game? (just for thought to answer in your own mind. I already know the answer for myself)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>09-11-2009, 02:06:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Rolls Eyes* <br><br>Some of us are unable to be long winded or the thought process of it due to real life ..So those speedy little pleasure makes us happy when we can at least try to make something of our chars but then ......I haven't been here so what do I know <br><br>*Walks away mumbling* 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>09-11-2009, 02:26:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				oh please. do you have to be childish?...<br><br>it no takes more brain power to write 10 sentences in one post than it does to write 10 sentences in 5 posts. <br><br>I joined the game to create a story with a group of people, which mean's waiting on those that are still playing regardless of how slow they are. One being Vandren who has not been able to log on for 5 days. But it seems that he isn't important.<br><br>I'm done, leaving the game. Maybe Vandren would be interested in trying a one on one again where no one will consider a post count above a player.<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>09-11-2009, 16:08:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				My apologies for vanishing for most of the week.&nbsp; I was going to try to get better about being on here more regularly, but . . . well, quite frankly, the inspiration wasn't there (still isn't really) and there were other things that came up as more interesting and desirable to do (and deal with).&nbsp; I suppose, basically, the time is there but the inclination is lacking.&nbsp; In fact, I've been thinking that starting up a game here as GM may not have been such a good idea.<br><br>I'm not sure where to go with this thought as far as it concerns things with this particular game/group, so any thoughts there are welcome.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>09-11-2009, 16:36:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				In all candor?&nbsp; <em>GMis Vanishingus</em> is a very bad sign, for whatever reason.&nbsp; Given your RL workload, it may well have been a foolhardy task to begin a game...but not, I must emphasize, a stupid one.&nbsp; The basic idea is pretty good and has a lot of potential.<br><br>Assuming we are going to continue (because absent the brouhaha in the OOC this has been mostly enjoyable):<br><br>IF you have a plot in mind, then I've already given my two farthings on a good way to keep everyone active at their own pace.<br><br>If you DON'T have a plot in mind, then I'd heartily suggest getting a co-GM to help manage the sandbox.&nbsp; &nbsp;:-)<br><br>For future reference, co-GMs are a good idea, especially if you have ambitions for a large and wide-ranging plot amongst the sandboxing.&nbsp; But one <span class="bbc_u">must</span> let them know of any overall plots you have in mind,lest you be unavailable for comment.<br><br>PM follows.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>09-11-2009, 18:40:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2429483#msg2429483">Quote from: GothicFires on 09-11-2009, 02:26:53</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">oh please. do you have to be childish?...<br><br>it no takes more brain power to write 10 sentences in one post than it does to write 10 sentences in 5 posts. <br><br>I joined the game to create a story with a group of people, which mean's waiting on those that are still playing regardless of how slow they are. One being Vandren who has not been able to log on for 5 days. But it seems that he isn't important.<br><br>I'm done, leaving the game. Maybe Vandren would be interested in trying a one on one again where no one will consider a post count above a player.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>*Blinks* You know .. If I was even thinking about being childish i would do something silly .. I post on how I feel .. Even in RL I mumble ... and my Real LIFE ... Is a Full time JOB !! I HAVE A CHILD THAT IS AUTISTIC... SO PLEASE DON'T TELL ME HOW i SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T POST....<br><br>Now ...those who I have actually discussed ideas with .. and our Very good Gm.. Know what I'm posting and why... My thoughts come in bits and pieces as I post... So with that in mind I will keep doing what I'm doing because my other fellow players do not mind how I post or care .. They just enjoy what I am doing as much as I do.. company excluded....
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>GothicFires</strong> on <strong>09-11-2009, 19:30:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I was talking about the rolling of the eyes as being the immature behavior not the fact that you 'mumbled'. <br><br>Also a few of you are missing the point that my problem was not the size of your posts, though it would frustrate the hell out of me to try to reply to them because they are so short... At this point in the game I didn't have to reply to them. Yes it is true I don't like them, but it was not my complaint.<br><br>My issue was the attitude of people who feel that just because they posted alot that they could leave the slow posters behind in time and eventually progress so much that the role play that slower posters are trying to achieve wouldn't happen. My concern was that if the game was moved to the next day that the pace difference would only continue again. Notice there was no offer off compromise only 'i can't do that because it's not my style' attitudes.<br><br>I already post shorter in this game than I do for any others and this past week I could have posted every day but I was waiting for the people I was writing with to reply back.<br><br>So the option was for me to leave. <br><br>I do apologize to Vandren because I truly do enjoy him, both his writing and the person he is. I do not feel that it is his failure to GM this game. I completely understood what he was looking for when he invested the time to set the idea up and I was completely prepared to work with in his time frame to achieve that vision. I have appreciated writing with you thus far both in this game and in the past.<br><br>This reply is not up for discussion as I will not be posting in this thread again.<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>09-11-2009, 20:59:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hmm . . . perhaps this recent exchange explains why I've not thought about E. in the last few days . . . or perhaps not, seeing as I tend to be a contentious person.&nbsp; *shrug*&nbsp; For those who've sent PMs, I'll probably get to them tonight.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>09-11-2009, 21:10:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Take your time, Van.&nbsp; We know you're busy.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Bishrook aka Fate sisters</strong> on <strong>10-11-2009, 02:52:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I can't say I blame you really. A game should be funnot a debating and name calling forum.<br>Take you timeand lets hope we can devote time to playing rather then argueing.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>10-11-2009, 16:17:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ok off to play catch up from my move and life has been hitting me hard.. I'm stuck with a lot of rain at the moment ... hopefully everything gets a little easier as I go along 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DoctorWhy</strong> on <strong>13-11-2009, 23:57:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry everyone, I had a major laptop crash followed by serious "real life" issues that needed dealing with. Seeing as stuff seems to have, well, changed in my absence.. I dunno what to do. Are we still playing. If so, can I?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>13-11-2009, 23:58:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				We're technically waiting for input from Vandren, but I can't think of a reason why you wouldn't still be welcome&nbsp; :-)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Bishrook aka Fate sisters</strong> on <strong>15-11-2009, 06:41:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2446934#msg2446934">Quote from: DoctorWhy on 13-11-2009, 23:57:45</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Sorry everyone, I had a major laptop crash followed by serious "real life" issues that needed dealing with. Seeing as stuff seems to have, well, changed in my absence.. I dunno what to do. Are we still playing. If so, can I?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I feel for you! I had my table top computer crash and had to use my laptop for a week.<br>I had most of my data backed up but naturally not as much as I should have.<br>We asked Van to describe the library for us. He however is a very busy man. Pending Van's decisions you are welcome to join the group of&nbsp; Jessica, Jaxon and Vincent in the Library.<br>Mad Panda and I are frantic posters but most of it is an extended conversation that in terms of game time is very brief. Jaxon tends to post once or twice a week depending on RL circumstances.<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>18-11-2009, 04:11:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=39842.msg2446934#msg2446934">Quote from: DoctorWhy on 13-11-2009, 23:57:45</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Sorry everyone, I had a major laptop crash followed by serious "real life" issues that needed dealing with. Seeing as stuff seems to have, well, changed in my absence.. I dunno what to do. Are we still playing. If so, can I?</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>No problem, I'd wondered what'd happened.&nbsp; :)<br><br>We're still on the first day, moving toward afternoon/evening.&nbsp; I'll be tossing together a little thing of some ideas in a bit, a different post.&nbsp; Max is free to be anywhere you want him to be.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>18-11-2009, 04:42:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Firstly, thanks for putting up with my absences.<br><br>Second, by my count, we're at approximately 800 IC posts (a little over), if I did the math correctly (and, being an English major, there's no guarantee there).&nbsp; &nbsp;;D<br><br>Third, some thoughts on style, play, etc.&nbsp; Since I like easy to follow enumerated points . . .<br><br>1) As far as style of play goes, I'm partial to sandbox form.&nbsp; Admittedly, this is mostly for sentimental reasons as my best easy online PbP experiences were sandbox (Atradern and Troubled Moon forums over on the now defunct WebRPG).&nbsp; As shown by some groups I ran over at RPOL ("Transdimensional University X" or "TUX"), this can be successful with a single mod, or no mod (as in Atradern/TM's cases).<br><br>That said, I will be setting up a background plotline (mentioned a short time ago to bishrook) that players can opt in or out of.&nbsp; Actually, if there's a player (current or otherwise) interested in playing a first year student "villain", feel free to contact me via PMs.<br><br>1a) Co-Mod . . . this has been suggested, and I'm cool with having a co-mod.&nbsp; If anyone would like to take up such a position, I'd be happy to consider someone (please PM, preferably with links to E., "World Enough and Time", or current RPOL groups you've mod-ed/co-mod-ed, so I can get a feel for your style, etc.)<br><br>2) Classes . . . an approach that I've found works well in the past is that, yes, students should go to classes and faculty should teach them.&nbsp; However (my favorite word, apparently), they don't necessarily have to be played out.&nbsp; And this works well with the genre/setting, as most of the classes in the canon work aren't actually "played" out, unless there's an important plot point or skill in them.&nbsp; Memory flashbacks IC or thoughts/verbal comments about such things are fine with me (as is wrapping up a class in two or three posts).&nbsp; Here's a great example (4-5 players posting):<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">After a bit of maneuvering and a short sprint through the Avant Gardens, a mini-portal near one of the buildings, and a brief run-in with a Cerberus clone, Oifa stood with Kyoko in front of the English building.&nbsp; "There you are," she panted slightly, "Maybe we can meet up and grab lunch?&nbsp; Eleven-ish?&nbsp; I have Aerobics at noon."<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>"Fine by me.. Demonic Aerobics?" She asks perking up. "I have it too . . . got horoscopes right now . . . English then lunch.." leans over. "Wanna give me a good luck kiss for class?" she adds with a wicked grin.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Kit just shrugged and wandered off to his first class, Engineering 241.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Oifa laughed, "I should've guessed.&nbsp; Meet for lunch, then head to aerobics?&nbsp; Sounds good to me."&nbsp; The part-Sidhe leaned in and gave Kyoko a sound kiss on the cheek.&nbsp; She avoided the other woman's lips, unless Kyoko turned, recalling what happened to people who kissed them.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Nikki dresses and walks to her 10 am class early, waiting around and people watching in the hall until time for her class.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Colin attended his classes on Designer Pets without incident, then killed the hour before his 10 o'clock Freshthing English course by wandering around campus. Just before ten he ran into Nikki and waved at her.<br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp;"Hey Nikki. How’s your day been?” he asked.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Just some thoughts, some of which should probably be suggestions or whatnot.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>29-11-2009, 22:01:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				840 on IC posts
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Bishrook aka Fate sisters</strong> on <strong>30-11-2009, 20:59:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				We should see a pickup in posts now that thanksgiving is over with. I will return to posting this evening.<br>Van, how would you like to have Brian and the three characters in the library interact with each other? I feel we are neglecting you.<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Bishrook aka Fate sisters</strong> on <strong>08-12-2009, 03:14:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Also do you have a 'program' for the Ministry subversian plot oris this an improv? As my post indicates I was thinking of having Lawson do a reading and planting within that some clues that they could start running down. <br>Perhaps we could give hints about possible agents and then mystery style begin collecting evidence in the 'case'.<br>I have to admit that while I am big reader of Mystery fiction, my attempts at writing such stories have been stillborn.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>08-12-2009, 21:00:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				For the moment, I'm in improv mode, but that can and will change now that the quarter is over and I have more time (after tomorrow's final).<br><br>I'll post Brian IC after Jaxon gets a chance.&nbsp; :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>10-12-2009, 18:06:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				could someone possibly help me figure out where to throw Rose back in.&nbsp; Been trying to figure this out while being sick off and on with the flu lol
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>10-12-2009, 18:20:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Perhaps a visit to the library is in order&nbsp; ;D&nbsp; Of course, this might entail an up close and personal encounter with a Wolf and a pair of cats.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>10-12-2009, 22:26:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Library's a good option.&nbsp; Herbology class is a good one too, with two students going back and forth.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>11-12-2009, 06:16:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				just popped in to say hello , doing some remodleing so I try to get on here at night time .<br>Vandren I posted
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Korbl</strong> on <strong>14-12-2009, 06:09:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hey all, sorry for my lengthy absence, I was having browser troubles, especially when trying to use this site, so I couldn't post at all.<br><br>But it should now be fixed, and I'm glad to be back.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>14-12-2009, 06:10:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yayyyy!&nbsp; Now if only we can straighten out that conversation in the library... (someone got someone else's response and someone who wasn't in the conversation yet stumbled into things, plus the familiars are talking back).&nbsp; &nbsp;:o :D XD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Bishrook aka Fate sisters</strong> on <strong>14-12-2009, 06:50:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah walk into the library and join either the Brian, Jaxon,Jessica and Vincent group or go to the table where Rose is. Introduce yourself and join the conversation.&nbsp; :-)<br>(I think I got everything sorted out,MP.)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>14-12-2009, 21:08:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				NP, Korbl, welcome back.<br><br>And bish . . . Brian and Jaxon hadn't joined Jessica, Vincent, and Rose yet.&nbsp; :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Bishrook aka Fate sisters</strong> on <strong>15-12-2009, 04:51:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Woops<br>I thught he's asked everyone about flying.<br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">"Anyone over there into flying?"</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Vandren</strong> on <strong>15-12-2009, 20:45:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That was directed to Jaxon (due to the "over there" remark, which he wouldn't shout, seeing as they're in a library&nbsp; ;D )
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Beyond Hogwarts] OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkAngel</strong> on <strong>16-12-2009, 00:26:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				LoL Brian is just lucky that Jaxon hasn't fell on him or tripped him she is a clutz after all 
			</dd>
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