[Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread
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				Title: <strong>[Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>15-02-2011, 01:49:51</strong>
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				Queen- 'Princes Of The Universe' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEJ8lpCQbyw#)<br><br>OOC thread, for chat and the usual stuff.<br><br>Character stuff goes here. (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98121.0)<br><br>If we decide we want to play at a different level, I can shift the threads to another board, but this is as good a spot as any to work from. I'm going to edit this post to put in links to the material I'm ok with people using, and the house rules I generally use in my games.<br><br>My house rules:<br>Untouchable Opponent adds dots of epic Dex to the characters DV, rather than the autosuccesses as writen.<br><br>Epic Perception is added to missile attack damage in the same way that Epic Strength adds to melee / brawl / thrown.<br><br>Defense against mental attacks is Integrity + Willpower + Legend.<br><br>Buying purview powers in sequence gets you a points break. At character generation spending (as an example) 3 points on a purview gets you the level 1,2 and 3 powers. Bought with experience, you would buy it as if the purview level were 1 lower.<br><br>All Scions get Scent the Divine for free.<br><br>Increases in Legend are not bought, but awared by the GM when the story warrants it. This helps keep everyone roughly at the same power level.<br><br>Fan created material is available, subject to prior approval from the GM. This includes knacks and purviews, possibly pantheons. They can be found here. (http://wiki.white-wolf.com/whitewolf/index.php?title=Fan_Created_Material)<br><br>The WW2 Pantheons and the Atlanteans are not available.<br><br>More as I think of it.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Cold Heritage</strong> on <strong>15-02-2011, 03:25:11</strong>
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				Can Legend be bought at chargen?<br><br>I'm also okay doing something you make up, adventure-wise, or doing a pre-gen. I'd probably rather do LRTH over Ragnarok. I guess made-up from scratch and LRTH are equally preferable for me.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>15-02-2011, 03:47:36</strong>
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				That was one of the things I wanted to check with people. I'm happy to go to legend 3 at the start, as it will allow a bit more variety in what people can take.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Cold Heritage</strong> on <strong>15-02-2011, 04:15:49</strong>
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				I'd rather start with more Legend, personally. For a couple of the right reasons, and some of the wrong reasons.<br><br>What do you think about using these stats for guns? http://wiki.white-wolf.com/whitewolf/index.php?title=Modern_Weapons (http://wiki.white-wolf.com/whitewolf/index.php?title=Modern_Weapons)<br><br>The gun I'm specifically looking at is the S&amp;W Model 500, which really ought to just have a 5 round capacity.<br><br>Along the same lines, what do you think it'd cost, dots-wise, to have a melee weapon that could be thrown and then return to the user's hand?
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>avorae</strong> on <strong>15-02-2011, 05:09:59</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4261278#msg4261278">Quote from: HairyHeretic on 15-02-2011, 03:47:36</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">That was one of the things I wanted to check with people. I'm happy to go to legend 3 at the start, as it will allow a bit more variety in what people can take.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Legend 3 sounds fine with me for a start...<br><br>As for the storyline I have looked over but not completely read "Ragnarok" story and I have played a majority of the “Long Road to Heaven” storyline so those might not be a good idea from my perspective.<br><br><br>
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>15-02-2011, 18:32:07</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4261394#msg4261394">Quote from: Cold Heritage on 15-02-2011, 04:15:49</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'd rather start with more Legend, personally. For a couple of the right reasons, and some of the wrong reasons.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I'm ok with Legend 3 being bought, I'd prefer not to go higher than that unless the clear majority wanted to do so. I'd ideally like to keep everyone on or around the same Legend rating.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4261394#msg4261394">Quote from: Cold Heritage on 15-02-2011, 04:15:49</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">What do you think about using these stats for guns? http://wiki.white-wolf.com/whitewolf/index.php?title=Modern_Weapons (http://wiki.white-wolf.com/whitewolf/index.php?title=Modern_Weapons)<br><br>The gun I'm specifically looking at is the S&amp;W Model 500, which really ought to just have a 5 round capacity.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>The personal firearms look ok. Not sure about some of the military grade hardware, but unless anyone plans on taking those .. well, we'll see.<br><br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4261394#msg4261394">Quote from: Cold Heritage on 15-02-2011, 04:15:49</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Along the same lines, what do you think it'd cost, dots-wise, to have a melee weapon that could be thrown and then return to the user's hand?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Sounds like a 1 dot power. Do you have access to the Companion? There are a list of sample powers and costs in that.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Cold Heritage</strong> on <strong>15-02-2011, 23:57:42</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4263255#msg4263255">Quote from: HairyHeretic on 15-02-2011, 18:32:07</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'm ok with Legend 3 being bought, I'd prefer not to go higher than that unless the clear majority wanted to do so. I'd ideally like to keep everyone on or around the same Legend rating.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Cool. I wouldn't really want to go to Legend 4 at chargen if I'm paying for it - there's just too much stuff to get and 15 BP goes way too fast, especially if half of it's going to Legend 3. @_@<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4263255#msg4263255">Quote from: HairyHeretic on 15-02-2011, 18:32:07</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">The personal firearms look ok. Not sure about some of the military grade hardware, but unless anyone plans on taking those .. well, we'll see.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Cool.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4263255#msg4263255">Quote from: HairyHeretic on 15-02-2011, 18:32:07</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Sounds like a 1 dot power. Do you have access to the Companion? There are a list of sample powers and costs in that.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Y'know, I do. I never even thought to look at the durned thing. Thanks.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Tomalak</strong> on <strong>16-02-2011, 00:00:32</strong>
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				Are you granting additional bonus points or XP for character creation?&nbsp; If not, Legen 3 is the max to start, simply by the limit of available points.<br><br>You said you want to grant Legend as a reward, rather than a purchase.&nbsp; Are you planning on individual rewards (i.e. each character's Legend goes up based on his/her actions), or blanket Legend rewards (your band found the missing Scion and defeated the Giants.&nbsp; Good job, everybody's Legend goes up by one)?&nbsp; If you're planning blanket increases, I'd like to request you choose our starting Legend, that it be the same for everybody, and that it be granted free.&nbsp; In a recent tabletop game the ST did this, starting everybody at 2, and it worked well.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Cold Heritage</strong> on <strong>16-02-2011, 00:05:54</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4264258#msg4264258">Quote from: Tomalak on 16-02-2011, 00:00:32</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">If not, Legen 3 is the max to start, simply by the limit of available points.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Standard 15 BP at chargen, and increasing legend costs 7 BP to increase. I mean, there might be something I'm overlooking that says you can't go higher than 3 at chargen, but not having enough points won't on its own stop you.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Tomalak</strong> on <strong>16-02-2011, 00:12:01</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4264273#msg4264273">Quote from: Cold Heritage on 16-02-2011, 00:05:54</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Standard 15 BP at chargen, and increasing legend costs 7 BP to increase. I mean, there might be something I'm overlooking that says you can't go higher than 3 at chargen, but not having enough points won't on its own stop you.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I'm afraid your comment doesn't make any sense to me.&nbsp; If Legend defaults to 1, raising it costs 7 points, and you have only 15 points, then how could you possibly start higher than 3?&nbsp; Maybe I'm misunderstanding your statement.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>16-02-2011, 00:12:57</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4264258#msg4264258">Quote from: Tomalak on 16-02-2011, 00:00:32</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Are you granting additional bonus points or XP for character creation?&nbsp; If not, Legen 3 is the max to start, simply by the limit of available points.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I'm considering it. <br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4264258#msg4264258">Quote from: Tomalak on 16-02-2011, 00:00:32</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">You said you want to grant Legend as a reward, rather than a purchase.&nbsp; Are you planning on individual rewards (i.e. each character's Legend goes up based on his/her actions), or blanket Legend rewards (your band found the missing Scion and defeated the Giants.&nbsp; Good job, everybody's Legend goes up by one)?&nbsp; If you're planning blanket increases, I'd like to request you choose our starting Legend, that it be the same for everybody, and that it be granted free.&nbsp; In a recent tabletop game the ST did this, starting everybody at 2, and it worked well.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>In my own game, we increase Legend as a band, so it keeps everyone level.<br><br>If everyone is ok with that, then I'll give a free bump to Legend 3 at character generation so people have a few extra points to spend on goodies.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Cold Heritage</strong> on <strong>16-02-2011, 00:19:16</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4264301#msg4264301">Quote from: Tomalak on 16-02-2011, 00:12:01</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'm afraid your comment doesn't make any sense to me.&nbsp; If Legend defaults to 1, raising it costs 7 points, and you have only 15 points, then how could you possibly start higher than 3?&nbsp; Maybe I'm misunderstanding your statement.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I thought it started at 2. I'm probably wrong. Confused with Exalted or something, no doubt.<br><br>Though if Legend defaults to 1, I'm sort of hard pressed to comprehend how you're supposed to spend your free Boons and Epic Attribute allotment, since you need Legend 2 as a prereq for 1 dot in either.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4264303#msg4264303">Quote from: HairyHeretic on 16-02-2011, 00:12:57</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">If everyone is ok with that, then I'll give a free bump to Legend 3 at character generation so people have a few extra points to spend on goodies.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>&lt;_&lt; <br><br>&gt;_&gt;<br><br>It probably doesn't need to be said, but I'm down with that.<br><br>I'm looking at the Companion, and I'm kinda wondering what they mean by "Add&nbsp; wearer’s&nbsp; Legend&nbsp; to&nbsp; any&nbsp; single (Attribute + Ability) roll." Does that mean like, once a day or something, you could add Legend to one roll with the specified combination of Attribute and Ability? Like, say, if you could it on a calculator and chose Intelligence + Science (Math) you could add your Legend to one Int + Sci (Math) roll a day?
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>16-02-2011, 00:39:45</strong>
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				Not once a day.<br><br>Every roll :)<br><br>That is an insanely cheap way to get extra dice onto a weapon.<br><br>Which reminds me, any custom relics will need to be approved. No weapons with speed factor 1 for instance&nbsp; :P 
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				Post by: <strong>Kolbrandr</strong> on <strong>16-02-2011, 02:49:25</strong>
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				I'm fine with free legend 3 at start. It tends not to be something I raise at starting anyway. I usually prefer to put points to abilities and backgrounds.<br><br>That said, you do automatically start with legend 2 as default in the rules, yes. <br><br>I'd be fine with the start at 2, have to spend bp for 3 way of things besides, but that's largely because it doesn't really impact my spending choices either way.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Cold Heritage</strong> on <strong>16-02-2011, 02:55:47</strong>
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				I wouldn't go that far. I have limits. D:<br><br>The book pre-empts that particular inglorious excess, anyway, by saying that you can only go to speed 4, or speed 3 if the weapon was already 4. But ugh. I guess people really do go for Speed 1 weapons. <br><br>Right now I'm looking at a hammer using the Quauhololli template that gives access to guardian, +1 to defense, and +legend to Dex+Melee rolls, and a S&amp;W model 500 that gives access to sky, and +legend to Dex+Marksmanship. If we got more bonus points or something, I'd probably seriously consider putting some of them to making the hammer have a thing where only someone with epic strength can lift it; it seems along the same lines as the one dot dissuade thieves feature.<br><br>Probably the worst thing I'd want is something like the Armor of Achilles that Victor Fingers has, but I know that that's ridonkeykongulously underpriced that any GM who'd allow it would have cruel and unusual horrors planned for my character that I want no part of.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>avorae</strong> on <strong>16-02-2011, 03:13:30</strong>
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				I am cool with the free bump to legend 3..<br>
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>16-02-2011, 03:34:42</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4264824#msg4264824">Quote from: Cold Heritage on 16-02-2011, 02:55:47</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I wouldn't go that far. I have limits. D:<br><br>The book pre-empts that particular inglorious excess, anyway, by saying that you can only go to speed 4, or speed 3 if the weapon was already 4. But ugh. I guess people really do go for Speed 1 weapons. <br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>There's a fire boon that can be used to create a flaming weapon. Taking the rules as written, it could go speed 1. I generally cap speed at 3, whatever the weapon.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4264824#msg4264824">Quote from: Cold Heritage on 16-02-2011, 02:55:47</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Right now I'm looking at a hammer using the Quauhololli template that gives access to guardian, +1 to defense, and +legend to Dex+Melee rolls, and a S&amp;W model 500 that gives access to sky, and +legend to Dex+Marksmanship. If we got more bonus points or something, I'd probably seriously consider putting some of them to making the hammer have a thing where only someone with epic strength can lift it; it seems along the same lines as the one dot dissuade thieves feature.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Those sound reasonable.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4264824#msg4264824">Quote from: Cold Heritage on 16-02-2011, 02:55:47</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Probably the worst thing I'd want is something like the Armor of Achilles that Victor Fingers has, but I know that that's ridonkeykongulously underpriced that any GM who'd allow it would have cruel and unusual horrors planned for my character that I want no part of.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>No.<br><br>That thing is worth about 8 dots by the powers it has. You want armour with powers, no problem, but you'll pay for it :)
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>avorae</strong> on <strong>16-02-2011, 03:59:28</strong>
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				Well if i can ever find some rules on a basic skateboard i will make a relic one and probably a a charm of some type.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Cold Heritage</strong> on <strong>16-02-2011, 05:59:15</strong>
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				Ew. Man, I dunno. I just feels <em>wrong</em> to me to have someone swinging around a giant hammer like . . . something incredibly hyperactive overdosing on stimulants.<br><br>I've been thinking about things I'd actually like to do in game, and I have a powerful desire to curbstomp vampires. Like, WoD style vampires. They could be spawn of some titan of darkness, I suppose, and operate out of a shady night club where people without hope congregate and the only time they ever feel anything anymore is when they open a vein for a bloodsucker. I dunno if that's really feasible or fitting with what Scion aims to do, but it's something I'd be keen on.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Tomalak</strong> on <strong>16-02-2011, 08:01:56</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4265578#msg4265578">Quote from: Cold Heritage on 16-02-2011, 05:59:15</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Ew. Man, I dunno. I just feels <em>wrong</em> to me to have someone swinging around a giant hammer like . . . something incredibly hyperactive overdosing on stimulants.<br><br>I've been thinking about things I'd actually like to do in game, and I have a powerful desire to curbstomp vampires. Like, WoD style vampires. They could be spawn of some titan of darkness, I suppose, and operate out of a shady night club where people without hope congregate and the only time they ever feel anything anymore is when they open a vein for a bloodsucker. I dunno if that's really feasible or fitting with what Scion aims to do, but it's something I'd be keen on.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>If this happens, I'm going to expect to be challenged.&nbsp; And to see signature abilities used.<br><br>Then again, as a non-combat character I don't think this would suit my concept too well.&nbsp; Unless it was less "Blade" and more "track down the Mastermind."
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>16-02-2011, 17:36:30</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4265044#msg4265044">Quote from: avorae on 16-02-2011, 03:59:28</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Well if i can ever find some rules on a basic skateboard i will make a relic one and probably a a charm of some type.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>What sort of advantages would you see the skateboard giving? It should be easy enough to knock up some kind of stats from there.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4265578#msg4265578">Quote from: Cold Heritage on 16-02-2011, 05:59:15</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I've been thinking about things I'd actually like to do in game, and I have a powerful desire to curbstomp vampires. Like, WoD style vampires. They could be spawn of some titan of darkness, I suppose, and operate out of a shady night club where people without hope congregate and the only time they ever feel anything anymore is when they open a vein for a bloodsucker. I dunno if that's really feasible or fitting with what Scion aims to do, but it's something I'd be keen on.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I've never encountered any WoD type vampires, and I've never played it (aside from playtesting a couple of con scenarios) so wouldn't be overly familiar with either. It's quite possible there would be vampires, but in terms of power levels they'd probably be relatively low level opponents as a rule of thumb, suitable for a Hero level game, but a demigod would likely go through them for a shortcut. :)
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				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>writersmelody</strong> on <strong>16-02-2011, 21:43:54</strong>
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				Woohoo! Took me a moment to find this. :P<br><br>Anyway, I'm fine with whatever sort of campaign everyone else wants. :) I am sure it will be very interesting and engaging.<br><br>Those rules for character creation make sense to me!<br><br>I am looking forward to this, thanks again to our intrepid Storyteller for volunteering to run this.<br><br>As for what Legend to start at, if everyone wants to start at Legend 3, that's great. Otherwise, I'm fine starting out my character at Legend 2. I love playing out character growth and progression.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Tomalak</strong> on <strong>16-02-2011, 22:30:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm cool with 3, It sound good.&nbsp; However, just because my opinion seems to be the outlier in comparison to the others, I'm also happy with the idea of starting at higher than normal points/legend.&nbsp; I have a habit of envisioning 'complete' character concepts (i.e. grown-ups rather than adolescents, if you catch the metaphor), so starting closer to the story I want to tell with the character would be nice.<br><br>I am also okay with 3, it just means more time before I'm done putting everything together.<br><br><br>I have a question for the other players (&amp; ST), who seem to be more familiar with Scion than I am (I've played it a couple times, but in short games);&nbsp; Is it a bad idea to have a non-combat character?&nbsp; I have no interest in playing a fighter, my concept is Scientist.&nbsp; Could this be a problem?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>16-02-2011, 22:59:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				There's nothing really wrong in playing a non combat character, but I would recommend taking some eDex or eStamina knacks that will let you avoid / absorb a hit or two. Otherwise when a fight does come up you run the risk of being taken out.<br><br>If you're ok with supporting actions, look into boons that either boost your friends, or hinder the bad guys. I'd also recommend Fight With Your Head, which you can use on big bads to keep yourself safe (take out their eStrength or eDex).
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>writersmelody</strong> on <strong>16-02-2011, 23:10:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I really need to get more of the books! I plan on doing that when payday rolls around. :P <br><br>Anyway, how would you like us to handle the more mechanical side of things? Do you want us to PM you the stats and such or post them here or-? Though maybe it'd be best to wait until we've decided on starting Legend and whether or not we're going to be spending any Bonus Points on that.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>16-02-2011, 23:12:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				If everyone is happy with Legend 3, and my points break on the boons we can go from there.<br><br>Do people want more BP to start, or are you happy with what there is?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Tomalak</strong> on <strong>16-02-2011, 23:18:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4268442#msg4268442">Quote from: HairyHeretic on 16-02-2011, 22:59:15</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">There's nothing really wrong in playing a non combat character, but I would recommend taking some eDex or eStamina knacks that will let you avoid / absorb a hit or two. Otherwise when a fight does come up you run the risk of being taken out.<br><br>If you're ok with supporting actions, look into boons that either boost your friends, or hinder the bad guys. I'd also recommend Fight With Your Head, which you can use on big bads to keep yourself safe (take out their eStrength or eDex).<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I think you define non-combat differently than I do.<br><br>I'm still interested in player opinions, but at this point, I'd like to discuss what I'm looking for in a game, so everybody can be on the same page.&nbsp; <br><br>I have little to no interest in combat situations in Scion.&nbsp; They should happen from time to time to keep game tension up, but I'm more interested in utility, puzzle, plot thwarting, etc.&nbsp; Mighty Thews are an asset I just don't have any interest in, y'know?&nbsp; I'm curious to hear what kind of game everyone else is looking for, and I'm hoping we can all meet somewhere in the middle.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>16-02-2011, 23:32:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I try to ensure a balance in my games, stuff for social, mental and physical characters to do. An individual scenario may go a bit more one way or another, but I try to balance them out.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kolbrandr</strong> on <strong>17-02-2011, 00:30:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				If only for the pace of play by post, some more bp to start with would be nice actually.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Cold Heritage</strong> on <strong>17-02-2011, 00:35:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4267027#msg4267027">Quote from: HairyHeretic on 16-02-2011, 17:36:30</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I've never encountered any WoD type vampires, and I've never played it (aside from playtesting a couple of con scenarios) so wouldn't be overly familiar with either. It's quite possible there would be vampires, but in terms of power levels they'd probably be relatively low level opponents as a rule of thumb, suitable for a Hero level game, but a demigod would likely go through them for a shortcut. :)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I'm not really familiar with them either - I've mostly encountered them through 'secondary sources:' other WoD lines that mention vampires and discuss them in the barest detail needed to address interaction with them, how they are antagonists to the splat, and so on. And I'm really quite fine with them being a relatively low level threat. The basic thing I'd like is to put boot to face on some nocturnal parasites who are feeding off of people's blood, who die if they go out into the sun, have a vested interest in exploiting those lost to despair, and die when you stick them either with a sharp wooden stake to the chest or take their heads off. I mean, if you take a higher-end gangster, the suit-wearing type who's rocking 500$ silk shirts and has mooks who rock 200$ silk shirts as his personal entourage, made them all really pale and on all plasma diet, I'd be happy.<br><br>I mean, in this kind of scenario, I imagine the challenge for my character is to survive being swarmed by a dozen vampires, taking them out, and then putting down their sinister, potentially centuries old master (for me, it's totally 'Blade': my dude is Wesley Snipes straight up suplexing a bad guy). Then the challenge for a social character'd be to help the victims so that they don't just end up being chattel to someone else ready to exploit them, e.g. pimps, drug-dealers, etc. Or maybe we get to realize, later on, that we've messed them all over: our involvement's fatebound all the humans into the role of victims to be saved.<br><br>I want to play a character who can fight and solve the problems that can be solved by smashing someone's face with a big hammer. I want to save people from monsters and be a big goddamn hero. I'm happy to have puzzle solving be there, but honestly I'd leave it to someone with eIntelligence to work out how to align the seven sigils of [alliterative name here] so that we can retrieve the golden tablets that contain the knowledge we need to . . . I dunno, ensure that the prison for a particularly nasty titanspawn stays in place. While the puzzle-solver's hurriedly trying to translate the ancient language, discovering on the fly that it's mathematics using [higher math concepts than I know of] to deliver meaning, my character could be holding off a bunch of lesser titanspawn and their pawns who desperately want to see their master freed, and to do unspeakable things to our still-warm bodies before and after we die. A dragon's probably above our pay-grade as Hero-level Scions, but darned if I don't want to fight one to save a princess, avenge someone, to protect a quaint little village, or whatever.<br><br>Having my character get manipulated by more socially savvy antagonists is probably something I'd expect to see happen too, because someone with eManipulation can make you go all backwards and getting tricked is something that happened to Thor a fair bit . . . so why would Fate let one of his kids off easy? Having to atone for a misdeed my character was misled to committing seems like a fairly neat plot seed that could grow into something nice. It'd be a fairly easy way, I think, to engender emotional investment in the fighting I want my character to do, although I do want him to be a hero for heroism's sake. He's got the will and the means to make people's lives better, and I want him to be able to.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4268489#msg4268489">Quote from: HairyHeretic on 16-02-2011, 23:12:22</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">If everyone is happy with Legend 3, and my points break on the boons we can go from there.<br><br>Do people want more BP to start, or are you happy with what there is?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Legend 3's good. We can have some nice things but still grow, and with the point break on boons it'll be easy to pick up other nice things as we go along.<br><br>I will always want more BP. I will never refuse extra points. @_@
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kolbrandr</strong> on <strong>17-02-2011, 00:37:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh, er, before I put a sheet together, is the background alright? It's in the original game recruitment thread.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kolbrandr</strong> on <strong>17-02-2011, 00:39:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"> I mean, if you take a higher-end gangster, the suit-wearing type who's rocking 500$ silk shirts and has mooks who rock 200$ silk shirts </blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I'd feel insulted, but the silk shirts my high end gangster is rocking cost well more than that crap&nbsp; :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Cold Heritage</strong> on <strong>17-02-2011, 01:00:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Your dude's a mobster. There's, uh, totally a difference between gangster and mobster. *coughs, and looks away awkwardly*<br><br>Although, there'd probably be some tension between our characters if mine knew about yours's business, thinking about it. Mine'd at least be conflcited about whether the Roseblood's one of the bad guys.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>writersmelody</strong> on <strong>17-02-2011, 01:07:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Legend 3 and more BP would be fine with me. Again, whatever everyone else wants. :)<br><br>I see we're going to have an interesting group... 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>17-02-2011, 01:15:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4268815#msg4268815">Quote from: Kolbrandr on 17-02-2011, 00:30:54</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">If only for the pace of play by post, some more bp to start with would be nice actually.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Would you prefer more BPs or faster / more XP to offset the pace?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kolbrandr</strong> on <strong>17-02-2011, 02:05:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'd prefer more bp, faster xp might feel forced and random with whatever pacing might ensue.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Tomalak</strong> on <strong>17-02-2011, 02:36:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4268831#msg4268831">Quote from: Cold Heritage on 17-02-2011, 00:35:37</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'm not really familiar with them either - I've mostly encountered them through 'secondary sources:' other WoD lines that mention vampires and discuss them in the barest detail needed to address interaction with them, how they are antagonists to the splat, and so on. And I'm really quite fine with them being a relatively low level threat. The basic thing I'd like is to put boot to face on some nocturnal parasites who are feeding off of people's blood, who die if they go out into the sun, have a vested interest in exploiting those lost to despair, and die when you stick them either with a sharp wooden stake to the chest or take their heads off. I mean, if you take a higher-end gangster, the suit-wearing type who's rocking 500$ silk shirts and has mooks who rock 200$ silk shirts as his personal entourage, made them all really pale and on all plasma diet, I'd be happy.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><strong>I</strong>, on the other hand, <em>am</em> a Vampire player, and would hate to walk onto the set of Blade, because it's a rather sub-standard depiction of the genre (IMO).&nbsp; On the other hand, I'm not interested in face-beatings, so as long as I don't become a damsel-in-distress, I don't really mind the other characters being in such a situation (I just don't like seeing flat, one-dimensional vampires).<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4268831#msg4268831">Quote from: Cold Heritage on 17-02-2011, 00:35:37</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Or maybe we get to realize, later on, that we've messed them all over: our involvement's fatebound all the humans into the role of victims to be saved.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Late demigod/early god level that would be an interesting mesh with where I see my character going; earlier than that, it might get really boring (as I'm not much for adventure-hero-rescue encounters)[/quote]<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4268831#msg4268831">Quote from: Cold Heritage on 17-02-2011, 00:35:37</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I want to play a character who can fight and solve the problems that can be solved by smashing someone's face with a big hammer. I want to save people from monsters and be a big goddamn hero. I'm happy to have puzzle solving be there, but honestly I'd leave it to someone with eIntelligence to work out how to align the seven sigils of [alliterative name here] so that we can retrieve the golden tablets that contain the knowledge we need to . . . I dunno, ensure that the prison for a particularly nasty titanspawn stays in place. While the puzzle-solver's hurriedly trying to translate the ancient language, discovering on the fly that it's mathematics using [higher math concepts than I know of] to deliver meaning, my character could be holding off a bunch of lesser titanspawn and their pawns who desperately want to see their master freed, and to do unspeakable things to our still-warm bodies before and after we die. A dragon's probably above our pay-grade as Hero-level Scions, but darned if I don't want to fight one to save a princess, avenge someone, to protect a quaint little village, or whatever.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>This game is going to be a challenge to the storyteller.&nbsp; I want to be the character who tells the action figure that "I know you just want to smash face and be a <em>big-god-damned hero</em>, but the world doesn't <em>work</em> like that.&nbsp; Everybody who isn't you <em>isn't automatically evil!</em>&nbsp; When you hit the big leagues, you can go to the Overworld and smash some titan's face in all you like, but until then sit down, shut up, and let us figure out what is going on here!"<br><br>In short, I don't so much want to be the character with the stats to 'figure out the puzzle', I want to be involved in an unfolding story that requires my input and imagination.&nbsp; If the story we're involved in could easily be told on a tv show or video game, I'm just as happy with it staying there; I want a game that requires the <em>players'</em> interaction, as opposed to a storyteller's unfolding saga.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4268831#msg4268831">Quote from: Cold Heritage on 17-02-2011, 00:35:37</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Having my character get manipulated by more socially savvy antagonists is probably something I'd expect to see happen too, because someone with eManipulation can make you go all backwards and getting tricked is something that happened to Thor a fair bit . . . so why would Fate let one of his kids off easy? Having to atone for a misdeed my character was misled to committing seems like a fairly neat plot seed that could grow into something nice. It'd be a fairly easy way, I think, to engender emotional investment in the fighting I want my character to do, although I do want him to be a hero for heroism's sake. He's got the will and the means to make people's lives better, and I want him to be able to.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I don't think CH's character and mine would be a bad fit for band-mates.&nbsp; As long as we (the players) go in understanding what each player is looking for, and endeavor to get each character the opportunity to behave as his player wants to see.<br><br>I'd really love it if each player could post something as clear and complete as CH has, I think it would make the game run much more smoothly.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4268831#msg4268831">Quote from: Cold Heritage on 17-02-2011, 00:35:37</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Legend 3's good. We can have some nice things but still grow, and with the point break on boons it'll be easy to pick up other nice things as we go along.<br><br>I will always want more BP. I will never refuse extra points. @_@<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>IIRC, higher starting legend often comes with bonus BP, but I wouldn't refuse accelerated xp gains either.&nbsp; Come to think of it, how do you decide when to give XP, if you don't have 'sessions', like one does in TT?&nbsp; (I've never PbP Scion before.)&nbsp; <br>I have a tendency to design characters that cannot be expressed at character creation, so getting closer to the time when my character is important, and her story can really be told, would be nice.&nbsp; Just so long as the other players aren't shorted on their spotlight time by speeding up advancement.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Cold Heritage</strong> on <strong>17-02-2011, 03:01:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4269284#msg4269284">Quote from: Tomalak on 17-02-2011, 02:36:20</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"><strong>I</strong>, on the other hand, <em>am</em> a Vampire player, and would hate to walk onto the set of Blade, because it's a rather sub-standard depiction of the genre (IMO).&nbsp; On the other hand, I'm not interested in face-beatings, so as long as I don't become a damsel-in-distress, I don't really mind the other characters being in such a situation (I just don't like seeing flat, one-dimensional vampires).</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Honestly from what I know about Vampire, Blade's in an entirely different genre from it and the two just happen to overlap in the sense that they both have these folks who have pointy teeth, drink blood, and burst into flames if they go under sunlight. <br><br>Blade never had fishmalks, so I can't be mad with it.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4269284#msg4269284">Quote from: Tomalak on 17-02-2011, 02:36:20</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">This game is going to be a challenge to the storyteller.&nbsp; I want to be the character who tells the action figure that "I know you just want to smash face and be a <em>big-god-damned hero</em>, but the world doesn't <em>work</em> like that.&nbsp; Everybody who isn't you <em>isn't automatically evil!</em>&nbsp; When you hit the big leagues, you can go to the Overworld and smash some titan's face in all you like, but until then sit down, shut up, and let us figure out what is going on here!"</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>There's probably gonna be a problem because no one wants to be a stupid-ass cardboard cutout who's too busy a-herpan and a-derpan to realize he's attacking things that don't need to be attacked.<br><br>The world also does work like that. Fate makes it so.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4269284#msg4269284">Quote from: Tomalak on 17-02-2011, 02:36:20</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I don't think CH's character and mine would be a bad fit for band-mates.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>It never really works out when one character sells another short and treats them like a brain-dead idiot.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4269284#msg4269284">Quote from: Tomalak on 17-02-2011, 02:36:20</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Come to think of it, how do you decide when to give XP, if you don't have 'sessions', like one does in TT?&nbsp; (I've never PbP Scion before.) <br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I've seen awards coming after significant in-game events, mostly. Not sure how Hairy'd do it.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>17-02-2011, 03:05:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				The easiest way I can think of for steady xp awards in game is 1 per scene. Assuming something reasonably significant happens.<br><br>I also allow for player nominated xp awards .. someone did something insanely over the top, or so in character, or just spun a line that completely cracked you up, you can nominate them for a bonus point.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>writersmelody</strong> on <strong>17-02-2011, 03:12:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ooh, I do like the idea of players being able to nominate each other for XP awards. Maybe a few more BPs at character creation and perhaps slightly lowering the XP costs of advancement would be good?<br><br>I am hoping this game will be a nice mix of Storyteller twists and plots with plenty of subplots and such from the players. Where things aren't set in stone and the choices characters make really do matter. I'd love to see a balance of different types of conflict, external and internal as characters learn more about their divine heritage and their role in the world. And I am really looking forward to seeing how they work together.<br><br>As for each role in the group, I'd suggest just seeing how things play out. Make the group and the relationships between each member as organic as possible. I trust that with a group of mature and experienced RPers like I've found on E, we will all have our chance to shine.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Tomalak</strong> on <strong>17-02-2011, 04:58:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				CH - Did I say something to offend you?&nbsp; You seem to have come out swinging on your last post, and I'm not sure why.<br><br>Was it was the bit about what how we imagine our characters behaving/what situations we want to see our characters in?&nbsp; I was not intending the comment to be directed specifically at you - I have simply seen too many games lately that were <em>all the same</em>.&nbsp; And Fate makes the world behave <em>whatever the storyteller decides.</em><br><br>I do not appreciate your open hostility, are you open to talking about it?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Cold Heritage</strong> on <strong>17-02-2011, 05:20:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Everything you've said that's included quoted posts of mine seems contrarian. I admit I lost my cool more than I'd've liked to because of that.<br><br>And it <em>does</em> bother me that you imagine your character behaving in a way that requires another to be acting like a complete tool. Since my character's an action figure and it was in response to something I said, I did take it to be directed specifically at me rather than a generalized statement. A lot of what you say comes off as incredibly negative towards what I want to do and how I want to do it, and the way you frame things you want to comes off as being framed in a comparison to what I want to do that casts my side in a pejorative light.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Tomalak</strong> on <strong>17-02-2011, 06:53:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Rereading my post, I can see why it came off as targeted at you, for which I apologize.&nbsp; I <em>was</em> responding to your post, but was intending the comment to be a general one.&nbsp; I can see that that intent did not come across in the post.<br><br>I do see that much of what I want seems to be opposite what you are looking for.&nbsp; Which is largely why I posted it; If I wanted the same kind of game you do, I wouldn't have worried about it, because you've stated clearly and well what you want.&nbsp; <br><br>If we are going to both play in this game, we need to figure out how to plan it so that we can both enjoy ourselves.&nbsp; Lately, I have found myself in games I'm not enjoying, simply because I <em>didn't</em> discuss things beforehand, and don't want to drop the party midway through an adventure.<br><br>HairyHeretic; do you generally run your PbP games in a group-scene style, or do the players often act in separate scenes, a la Mission Impossible?&nbsp; The latter, at least some of the time, might be beneficial in this case, in order to increase the number of opportunities for your many players to get involved in the scenes they want.<br><br>Also, what I may not have completely conveyed, is that my desire with a mental-primary character, can often lead to a showdown much like Cold Heritage described; I just don't want to be in that scene with a non-combat character.<br><br>Do you envision this being a game that a non-combat character cannot excel in?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>17-02-2011, 16:21:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I run my games in whatever way the players decide to go about things. If you stick together, it goes that way. If you split off, it goes that way. I try not to railroad people, but let them make their own choices on what to do in a given story. It's quite possible that you might come up with a solution to a problem that I never envisioned ... that just means I have to adapt.<br><br>As I said previously, I try to structure my games so that everyone gets their time in the spotlight. In any particular scenario it might be 2 or 3 people really shining, but in the next it will be others. I do my best to keep things enjoyable for everyone.<br><br>Pretty much every Scion game I've played in has had combat though. Even if you don't want to fight, the titanspawn wanting to rip heads off Scions isn't going to care, so I would recommend defensive abilities at least.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>avorae</strong> on <strong>17-02-2011, 21:01:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4267027#msg4267027">Quote from: HairyHeretic on 16-02-2011, 17:36:30</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">What sort of advantages would you see the skateboard giving? It should be easy enough to knock up some kind of stats from there.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Well my idea for making it a relic was to give it lightning sprinter and to add my legend to my Dex+Control rolls. Basically nothing really special just that she uses it as her transportation. I may give it another small power as well but I am not sure what if any.<br><br>As for my character itself she is going to be&nbsp; rather subtle for the most part. I am looking to go primarily epic attributes and the alternative Jotunblut and maybe one other Purview possibly Star. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>17-02-2011, 21:10:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That sounds about a 2 dot relic to me. If you wanted to add something likes Winds Freedom, that'd be another 2 dots.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>avorae</strong> on <strong>17-02-2011, 21:26:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4272411#msg4272411">Quote from: HairyHeretic on 17-02-2011, 21:10:44</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">That sounds about a 2 dot relic to me. If you wanted to add something likes Winds Freedom, that'd be another 2 dots.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Yea I fijured that would have been 2 dots and thanks for the idea of doing Winds freedom. I totally forgot about that one. So That ois what i am looking to do for the skateboard.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>fallensaviour</strong> on <strong>17-02-2011, 22:40:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				i'd have been here sooner but i didnt know it was up yet :P<br><br>so as i understand it 15bp and we start at 3 legend not 2, and we're capped currently at 3 for chargen?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>17-02-2011, 22:45:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yes. We're also discussing extra bp to start.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>fallensaviour</strong> on <strong>17-02-2011, 22:47:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				i am a fan of extra bp...also faster xp :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>17-02-2011, 23:25:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Given that online games tend to move slower, I have no real issue with that :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Lanzlo</strong> on <strong>18-02-2011, 00:06:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Good evening,<br><br>I was posting in one of H<sup>2</sup>'s other games, and I saw the OOC thread for this. I PMed him, and he said that he has room right now. Just wanted to post a hello, and say that I'll be putting up a Character post soon, and drafting up the 'crunchy bits.'
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>18-02-2011, 00:09:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Given the number of people we have interested, it might be an idea to split into two bands. Anyone got thoughts on that? Yes, no, maybe?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ixy</strong> on <strong>18-02-2011, 00:15:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I would greatly appreciate a smaller group.&nbsp; Like, much smaller.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>fallensaviour</strong> on <strong>18-02-2011, 00:31:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				hairy...i have an idea, hop on yahoo and talk to me real quick :D its pertinent to the current situation
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>18-02-2011, 00:39:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ok, gimme 5 or 10 minutes and I'll be on.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>writersmelody</strong> on <strong>18-02-2011, 00:41:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Two bands probably would make the most sense and given the whole Fateful Aura thing, probably safer for everyone, LOL.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>fallensaviour</strong> on <strong>18-02-2011, 00:43:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				fateful aura, the reason why i say as a scions legend goes up the chances of impregnation go up as well...to over 100% :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>18-02-2011, 01:39:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ok, I'm thinking two bands, two separate adventures, but the ability to contact each other for help (within plot restrictions). That way we'd be taking 3-5 people in each group, give or take.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Cold Heritage</strong> on <strong>18-02-2011, 01:49:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sounds good to me.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>avorae</strong> on <strong>18-02-2011, 04:13:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4273360#msg4273360">Quote from: HairyHeretic on 18-02-2011, 01:39:55</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Ok, I'm thinking two bands, two separate adventures, but the ability to contact each other for help (within plot restrictions). That way we'd be taking 3-5 people in each group, give or take.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I think that is a good idea actualy...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kolbrandr</strong> on <strong>18-02-2011, 17:33:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm fine with the two bands with potential for communication between them notion, yeah.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>18-02-2011, 23:54:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ok, let's say another 5 BP to start with. Given the free boost to Legend 3, that should give people a bit more oomph. For those who haven't yet posted it, please put your character concept and history into the character thread, and you can start working on the numbers after that. If I have any issues with your character, I'll drop you a PM. If you haven't heard from me within about 24 hours of putting your character into that thread, figure you're good to go.<br><br>PM me if you've any questions, or want to use non canon material.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Cold Heritage</strong> on <strong>19-02-2011, 19:40:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hairy, are we going to act as though the stuff in the World At War section of the Companion never happened?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>19-02-2011, 20:04:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I don't generally include it. Why do you ask?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Cold Heritage</strong> on <strong>19-02-2011, 20:12:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I dislike it a great deal and don't think it's a very good addition to the setting. <br><br>I mean, I like the Soviet pantheon, but all the rest seems pretty bad.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>19-02-2011, 20:37:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				A few of the Gods are usable, and I might tap it for weapon stats, but that's about it from my perspective.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Cold Heritage</strong> on <strong>19-02-2011, 20:41:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sounds good to me.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>writersmelody</strong> on <strong>19-02-2011, 21:09:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Thanks, HH. I am working on the mechanics of Zaniyah right now. Probably won't have a chance to finish up until Tuesday though as it's a long weekend and I don't have the book(s) with me. *goes off to try and post*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>19-02-2011, 22:54:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				No problem.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>22-02-2011, 22:16:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just a quick reminder, when you're sending me your character sheet, note how you've spent your bonus points. It makes my life a lot easier :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>avorae</strong> on <strong>24-02-2011, 16:50:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hey HH I made a few changes to my sheet to make it fit more in line with the concept i had in mind.<br><br>I dropped the Star Purview all together and added those points to epics instead. [one to Appearance and the other to Perception] I also dropped the Star birthright and gave my gloves the body armor Knack.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>writersmelody</strong> on <strong>24-02-2011, 19:05:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I PMed you Zaniyah's sheet, hopefully there were no issues!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Tomalak</strong> on <strong>25-02-2011, 01:33:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Vikam and Ishka are twins, who spend so much time together, you rarely see them in the same room - wait...<br>Let me try again.&nbsp; Vikam and Ishka are twin Scions, children of Vishnu.&nbsp; They live together, traveling all over the world for their jobs.&nbsp; They are both world-class scientists, though in different (if similar) fields.&nbsp; Because they are so busy, they do not maintain a regular residence.&nbsp; They are always traveling, either for his job or for hers.<br><br>Vikam runs a think tank that examines the results of the Human Genome Project, and is studying several projects in the field of genetics.&nbsp; Publicly, he's looking for the cure to cancer.&nbsp; Secretly, he's looking for a 'divinity gene.'&nbsp; He's very busy with his work, but has the blessing of his parents.&nbsp; He is very close to his twin sister, Ishka.&nbsp; Though they tend to travel together, Vikam usually stays in the hotel (or whatever), corresponding via computer with several people at once.<br><br>Ishka on the other hand, tends to prefer speaking with her colleagues in person.&nbsp; She is also a specialist in the field of biology, but not human biology like her brother.&nbsp; She is an expert on plant genetics, and studies various crossbreeding projects hosted by scientists the world over.&nbsp; Her work is a constant search for the defining principles of plant genetics.&nbsp; <br><br>Ishka is the character I'd like to play, while Vikam is a foil I'll bring in from time to time, with the ST's permission.&nbsp; Full concept and sheet to come shortly.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>25-02-2011, 15:58:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				If I haven't given anyone feedback on concept or sheet, feel free to poke me via PM. I've been running around a lot the last few days, and it may simply have slipped my mind.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kolbrandr</strong> on <strong>26-02-2011, 02:31:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry, work really killed me this week, I'll get all my stuff together for approval in the next couple days.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>26-02-2011, 03:28:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				No worries.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Cold Heritage</strong> on <strong>26-02-2011, 06:06:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Did you have any tentative idea about how we were going to split into different bands?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>26-02-2011, 15:11:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I can see a few different options<br><br>1 - Balanced: Each band gets a physical / mental / social specialist (or as close as can be managed) for flexibility<br>2 - Player choice. You figure who you want to go with.<br>3 - By interest.&nbsp; Physical challenges (High/Medium/Low) Mental (H/M/L) Social (H/M/L) so adventures can fit the groups preference
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Lanzlo</strong> on <strong>26-02-2011, 23:18:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hmmm, I'm leaning towards the Balanced approach. that way, each of the specialists have their chance to shine within the story.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Tomalak</strong> on <strong>27-02-2011, 20:18:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Option 3 works the best, though if given the choice, I'd prefer a variation of option 2;<br>An IC event occurs, which involves all the PCs.&nbsp; Two different courses of action present themselves, and the people involved split into two bands in order to cover both.&nbsp; The advantage of this idea, is that the PCs can make the call after having some interaction already.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4307055#msg4307055">Quote from: HairyHeretic on 26-02-2011, 15:11:08</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I can see a few different options<br><br>1 - Balanced: Each band gets a physical / mental / social specialist (or as close as can be managed) for flexibility<br>2 - Player choice. You figure who you want to go with.<br>3 - By interest.&nbsp; Physical challenges (High/Medium/Low) Mental (H/M/L) Social (H/M/L) so adventures can fit the groups preference<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>writersmelody</strong> on <strong>27-02-2011, 21:58:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Any of those options could work just fine. :) So whatever everyone else prefers would be fine with me!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>01-03-2011, 18:52:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Anyone needing a hand with character stuff? I know we have some characters completed, and some still work in progress, so if anyone needs anything, let me know.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ixy</strong> on <strong>01-03-2011, 18:57:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm slow, sorry-- a little distracted by outside forces and lost my interest in my current concept.&nbsp; I LOVE the character but have a really hard time seeing her worth as part of a campaign, so I will do my best to posit a new concept/sheet in the next day or so.&nbsp; Sorry for the delay.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>01-03-2011, 20:09:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				It's your call of course. Can I ask why you don't think the concept really fits for a campaign any more?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ixy</strong> on <strong>01-03-2011, 23:39:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Thanks... the EMT thing was kind of inspired by Joe Connelly's "Bringing Out the Dead", and I looked at this character even more selfishly than normal :D, and I'm only able to envision certain scenarios for the character.&nbsp; I suppose I imagine the character being kinda poetic in a morbid way, low-powered combatively, sort of withdrawn socialy-- overall, not much of a contribution to a group dynamic I think :)&nbsp; I could make something a little more talkative and proactive I think.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>02-03-2011, 00:02:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hmm .. ok, I can see why you might prefer someone a bit more socially interactive then :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Lanzlo</strong> on <strong>02-03-2011, 20:09:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh, this aught to be fun... a scion of the God of Thieves with a scion of the God of Justice. :D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>02-03-2011, 20:30:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				You'll have lots to talk about :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ixy</strong> on <strong>02-03-2011, 22:52:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4323216#msg4323216">Quote from: Lanzlo on 02-03-2011, 20:09:50</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Oh, this aught to be fun... a scion of the God of Thieves with a scion of the God of Justice. :D<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Ah, yes! but she's disollusioned with her cause and probably prone to vigilantism at the moment, so... we'll see :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kolbrandr</strong> on <strong>05-03-2011, 02:54:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I can never really find pictures I like for the characters I sort out, hrm.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Tomalak</strong> on <strong>05-03-2011, 13:15:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Kolbrander - I have the same problem.&nbsp; By the time I have figured out who the character is, I already know what they look like - so no picture online matches.&nbsp; I have been surprised since becoming active on Elliquiy how many players prefer using photos over descriptions.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ixy</strong> on <strong>05-03-2011, 15:26:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I like using both, if possible, because I prefer to engage as many parts of my brain as I can at once.&nbsp; I can visualize description to a certain degree, but most players are just incapable or reluctant to do so.&nbsp; If anyone needs more detail from me, please prompt for it in a PM and I'll be happy to try to add it.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Tomalak</strong> on <strong>05-03-2011, 18:11:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				On a personal level, I prefer description for the same reason I prefer books over TV; I enjoy allowing my imagination to fill in the gaps.&nbsp; I try to write descriptions that are detailed enough that we are on the same page as to what you're seeing, but slightly vague so as to allow your 'mind's eye' to smooth out the imperfections and give you a complete image.<br>I'm always interested in as much detail as a player/GM is interested in putting into their descriptions; you're never going to bore me with it.&nbsp; I won't, however, ask specifically for long, detailed descriptions unless you have time and interest.<br><br>Character almost complete, BTW.&nbsp; <br><br>HairyHeretic:&nbsp; How do you feel about a character using their Ichor as an excuse for justifying existing position and previous accomplishment, and then filling in the missing stats with xp asap? There are some holes in my sheet I can't seem to otherwise cover.<br><br>Also, are Epic Attributes limited to your current Legend, or less than your current Legend?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kolbrandr</strong> on <strong>05-03-2011, 18:45:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				It's one less than current, if you're asking as far as the rules for epic atts.<br><br>As for pictures.. I try, but I always construct the character in my head first, and inevitably that makes for dissonance with the pictures I find, is what it seems to be. There's at best always this little feeling of it just not being right.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>05-03-2011, 19:21:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4333534#msg4333534">Quote from: Tomalak on 05-03-2011, 18:11:55</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">HairyHeretic:&nbsp; How do you feel about a character using their Ichor as an excuse for justifying existing position and previous accomplishment, and then filling in the missing stats with xp asap? There are some holes in my sheet I can't seem to otherwise cover.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I think I need a little more info. PM me with what you mean, we can discuss it there.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kolbrandr</strong> on <strong>05-03-2011, 20:08:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				We could always get more bp instead *cough*<br><br>Granted I'd probably just sink that all into abilities moreso. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>avorae</strong> on <strong>06-03-2011, 02:19:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I like to use pictures as it helps me to solidify the concept I have. I have a hard time taking the image I see in my head and put it into words on paper thus the picture helps me to do that even if my description falls short of what I was trying to say. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Tomalak</strong> on <strong>06-03-2011, 20:13:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4333795#msg4333795">Quote from: Kolbrandr on 05-03-2011, 20:08:34</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">We could always get more bp instead *cough*<br><br>Granted I'd probably just sink that all into abilities moreso.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>This man is not wrong.<br><br>I'd like to ask all the players, largely to satisfy my own curiosity, what 'level' of play you tend to prefer?&nbsp; I find that most people have some part of the 'power curve' that appeals to their aesthetic, or feeds their pay-outs, better than the others - do you?&nbsp; (generic group referential 'you'')
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>06-03-2011, 21:03:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				You did get more BPs, and a bump on legend as well. :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>avorae</strong> on <strong>07-03-2011, 02:05:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4337459#msg4337459">Quote from: Tomalak on 06-03-2011, 20:13:19</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'd like to ask all the players, largely to satisfy my own curiosity, what 'level' of play you tend to prefer?&nbsp; I find that most people have some part of the 'power curve' that appeals to their aesthetic, or feeds their pay-outs, better than the others - do you?&nbsp; (generic group referential 'you'')<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I really don't have a preference for any particular level of play. I am more interested in good story and understanding players/ GM than anything else. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Tomalak</strong> on <strong>07-03-2011, 03:46:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, what about levels of interaction?&nbsp; PC-with-Mortals, PC-with PC, PC-with-Environment?&nbsp; Plot-with-Environment?&nbsp; If you can give me an idea of what your interest or your payouts are, I can endeavour to encourage them with my roleplay.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>avorae</strong> on <strong>07-03-2011, 06:05:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I honestly have no set parameters of interaction that must be met as long as I have a good story and fun players/ Gm to play with. Now when I am working on a response to a post how the interaction comes about will be influenced by my mood at the time as well as what has been happening in the game prior but aside from that I am able to work with whatever I am given. <br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ixy</strong> on <strong>07-03-2011, 14:46:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I prefer powers to take a back-seat to interaction.&nbsp; I like a lot of heavy mood, sensory detail, etc.&nbsp; As for conflict, I prefer to keep the powers limited at this point, then if we get the game rolling and people like the direction, we can consider an advancement later... for instance, I'd rather have an 'intermission' when we reach a reasonable milestone, then allow a year or two to lapse in 'game time' where we can determine our characters' individual pursuits during that interval and return with considerable mechanics development.&nbsp; <br><br>I really want to keep things moving.&nbsp; I like taking my time with posts, writing lots of description and all, but I hate moments where PCs are left just sitting, saying, "well, I think we should do A" and then everyone posits their version of plan A "A.1, A.2" before somebody says, "Wait, what about B?"&nbsp; and the shit starts all over then goes on for weeks.&nbsp; In real life, a discussion that might take 15-30 minutes becomes a week-long deliberation in game.&nbsp; I think that everything that requires prolonged interaction-- discussions, sex, combat, and other turn-by-turn activities-- should be resolved in PM or side-thread by mutual agreement of ST and player and then written out in expository format with lots of description.&nbsp; <br><br>This is probably pretty contrary to most system-players, but bear with me here.<br><br>Let's say my character got into a fight with a group of NPCs... I'd want to say, "Hey HH, I think my character Sally's going to win this fight because..." and HairyHeretic to say, "that's well and good, but what you don't know is that this last guy is a titanspawn and he's going to beat her ass."&nbsp; I might reply, "if that happens, she'll call for help from Tank," and he'd say, "That's good, he can save you but the titanspawn is probably able to take both of you if you don't run eventually."&nbsp; Then we'd agree that the outcome is: kung-fu movie style cinematic combat takes place for several rounds, but Sally gets her ass handed to her.&nbsp; Tank shows up, more combatomatic, and they take off on a pink motorcycle like RoadRunner.&nbsp; I'd then write a combat scene all flashy like up to the point where Sally's losing, HH writes out the transition up until Tank shows up, then Tank's player writes the next bit of combat, then HH writes out the escape.&nbsp; <br><br>Doing this, we could resolve a whole combat in about 2 PMs and 2 posts per player.&nbsp; Thoughts?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>07-03-2011, 15:21:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				It's an interesting idea. I have no problem letting people go cinematic on mortals, because in all likelyhood they wouldn't stand a chance (depending on the Scions own abilities, I should add).<br><br>Now, I should point out though that a good / sneaky plan can be a pretty decent equaliser. Case in point, at Hero level, our band got into a fight with a demigod level Scion of Ares. His first two swings pretty much floored two of the group (this is why life saving eStamina / eWits powers are a must). I channeled virtue and Legendary deed, and knocked his sword into the air, then used Between the Ticks to go again and Winds Freedom to run into the air, grab the sword and keep running.<br><br>How do the rest of you feel about this idea?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Cold Heritage</strong> on <strong>07-03-2011, 17:06:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I don't see the point of playing a system game only do discard the system wholesale. And since this came out of a request by someone wanting to actually learn the game, I don't it well serves that request to go off into free-form land.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kolbrandr</strong> on <strong>07-03-2011, 17:09:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm really leery of taking the game out into freeform, it's just not my bag. To say it as a really short version, I honestly like the unpredictability of system use and having to adapt thereby, it keeps things interesting to me. I'm aware that there are tradeoffs and drawbacks to doing so, but I prefer them to the tradeoffs and drawbacks of going at things freeform instead.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Lanzlo</strong> on <strong>07-03-2011, 19:55:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I would have to agree with HH here. It's fine to go all cinematic on mortals, and for some things, perhaps a few PMs before a post would work great.<br><br>However, for combat and other challenges, I would defer to the system. The system is there, let's use it. It kinda defeats the purpose of drawing up a character sheet only to have the entire game go free-form.<br><br>As for play style, I can go either way, but I am leaning towards powers being there, but in a background role.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>writersmelody</strong> on <strong>08-03-2011, 00:02:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4337459#msg4337459">Quote from: Tomalak on 06-03-2011, 20:13:19</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'd like to ask all the players, largely to satisfy my own curiosity, what 'level' of play you tend to prefer?&nbsp; I find that most people have some part of the 'power curve' that appeals to their aesthetic, or feeds their pay-outs, better than the others - do you?&nbsp; (generic group referential 'you'')<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>One of the things that draws me to RP is the ability to interact with other players and characters. When you're writing your own story, you know where it's going and what's coming next. Other players and GMs keep you on your toes though and the curveballs they may intentionally or unintentionally throw your way provide a fun challenge for creativity. :) <br><br>I really enjoy character development. The chance to watch characters grow and change as the story progresses and deal with the aftermath of their choices is always fun. Of course I'm looking forward to exploring all the aspects of Scion- the interesting uses that Boons and Knacks can be put to it, Fatebinding, the new twists on legends, etc. So I'd enjoy the chance to do some combat but also just get to know my character and see her progression, as well as the others.<br><br>I agree with HH and Lanzlo. I mean, Scions are supposed to be a bit larger than life so it'd make sense to have mortals (within reason) and weaker titanspawn (within reason) go down in an epic cinematic style. And some planning before certain things can make things go more smoothly. But PMs might get lost or buried or missed, I know that happens with me. :P<br><br>Powers are there for a reason but as we've seen, they have consequences to their use. I'd hope that gumption and cleverness would play a part in winning the day as much as any divine abilities.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ixy</strong> on <strong>08-03-2011, 00:33:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, majority rules... unless one group goes freeform and the other goes system, looks like we'll stay strictly system-based.&nbsp; I suppose I tend toward handling rules more loosely because I have some less than satisfactory experience with system abusers.&nbsp; <br><br>Anyway, that discussion can be shelved.&nbsp; I prefer realistic personalities on unrealistic people and situations, if that helps clarify my content preferences at all.&nbsp; My only other request is that we keep out-of-character knowledge out of the game as much as possible.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>avorae</strong> on <strong>08-03-2011, 03:48:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4342209#msg4342209">Quote from: Ixy on 08-03-2011, 00:33:12</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I prefer realistic personalities on unrealistic people and situations, if that helps clarify my content preferences at all.&nbsp; My only other request is that we keep out-of-character knowledge out of the game as much as possible.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I have to agree with both of these points.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Tomalak</strong> on <strong>08-03-2011, 20:57:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Having a fair amount of experience with Tactical rpgs (both on- and off-line), combat can really drag out.&nbsp; I have a rule of thumb I like to use; Dice exist for when you don't know whether success or failure will cause for a better story.<br><br>Knowing how combat can drag out and get boring, I like Ixy's way of looking at things for simple fight situations.&nbsp; On the other hand, being a player who likes to use his 'toys,' I understand the value of getting to turn on your combat powers.&nbsp; I think if HH splits up the combat situations between the 'typical' fight scene, and the Epic Battles, we can find a happy medium.<br><br>A note about Meta and Islands:<br>One thing I really hate doing is spending character points on "meta" (abilities that are for preventing something, not allowing me to do something).&nbsp; It occurs to me that I have built my character on the proverbial island, without considering the environment or other characters.&nbsp; This was likely a mistake; one that flows from my desire to play a specific character, to see her story unfold.&nbsp; I'm going to look at ways to compensate, but it's only fair to warn you now.<br><br>Also, my payouts do not in anyway include 'beating face.'&nbsp; I enjoy the interaction with (real and changing of) Legend, character development &amp; interaction, powers (Knacks &amp; boons) and fatebinding.&nbsp; That's what I'm here looking for.<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>12-03-2011, 02:03:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I know we have a couple of characters still being worked up. Anything I can help with there?<br><br>Shall we start game posting while we get the last of the mechanics sorted?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>avorae</strong> on <strong>12-03-2011, 03:31:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I am ready to start whenever you are.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Lanzlo</strong> on <strong>12-03-2011, 10:47:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Same here. Whenever we have a quorum...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>12-03-2011, 19:14:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4345573#msg4345573">Quote from: Tomalak on 08-03-2011, 20:57:11</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">A note about Meta and Islands:<br>One thing I really hate doing is spending character points on "meta" (abilities that are for preventing something, not allowing me to do something).&nbsp; It occurs to me that I have built my character on the proverbial island, without considering the environment or other characters.&nbsp; This was likely a mistake; one that flows from my desire to play a specific character, to see her story unfold.&nbsp; I'm going to look at ways to compensate, but it's only fair to warn you now.<br><br>Also, my payouts do not in anyway include 'beating face.'&nbsp; I enjoy the interaction with (real and changing of) Legend, character development &amp; interaction, powers (Knacks &amp; boons) and fatebinding.&nbsp; That's what I'm here looking for.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I meant to comment on this before now, but lost track of it. <br><br>There's nothing wrong with building a character to a particular focus, but if that focus field doesn't come up in a particular game, you may find yourself twiddling your thumbs a bit. <br><br>As regards what you refer to as metas, I don't really see a problem with them. The only ones I would really consider must haves would be something to keep you alive in combat, because combat will occur in Scion. Not all the time, but it will occur. You can't really expect to reason with some gribbly that wants to bite your face off, and if you don't have something to keep it from doing so, yours will be a short career :)<br><br>This generally means either Dex based, to stop it hitting you, Stamina based so you can soak it, or Fight With Your Head which should hopefully negate its epics (assuming you pick the right targets of course).<br><br>Look at all the old heroic stories and myths. Yes, the Hero can sometimes talk his way out of trouble, or outthink what he can't outfight, but sooner or later, the gloves will come off. Lose a social or mental encounter, you'll probably still walk away. Just bear in mind the consequences of losing the physical one.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>21-03-2011, 15:33:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ok, I'm going to get things kicked off shortly. Our remaining characters can come in as and when they get sorted.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>21-03-2011, 19:46:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				And we're up<br><br>http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=101427.0 (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=101427.0)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>01-04-2011, 22:54:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Feel free to jump on in folks, there's no particular posting order required.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Lanzlo</strong> on <strong>02-04-2011, 01:22:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah, come on in. While I don't mind being alone with a hot girl, it is getting rather lonely here. :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>03-04-2011, 17:44:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Can you at least let me know if you want to play on or not? If you're not interested, that's fine, and I can advertise for a couple of new players. Two is a bit small for a Scion band.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Tomalak</strong> on <strong>04-04-2011, 02:31:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm still here.&nbsp; I have a major project IRL getting started, so it's taking up most of my time.&nbsp; I'll try to get into the game, but won't have alot of time until said project gets going (hopefully within a week or two)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>08-04-2011, 22:37:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ok, since no one else has responded, I'll presume they're no longer interested.<br><br>If any of you know anyone else who might want to play Scion, feel free to shoot them a PM. If not, I'll post a thread and see if we can rustle up a couple more players that way.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>avorae</strong> on <strong>09-04-2011, 04:45:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I am still here just been busy with RL. Will try to get a post up ASAP.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>09-04-2011, 18:28:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Burned out as I am on all things White Wolf, Lanzlo put in a good word for H2...and here I am, stuck in the middle of char-gen.&nbsp; &nbsp;;D<br><br>I have to decide whether my character is going to be male or female, but we're definitely talking Scion of Hades.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>writersmelody</strong> on <strong>09-04-2011, 18:43:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4457553#msg4457553">Quote from: HairyHeretic on 03-04-2011, 17:44:07</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Can you at least let me know if you want to play on or not? If you're not interested, that's fine, and I can advertise for a couple of new players. Two is a bit small for a Scion band.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I am still here! Was just dealing with some RL stuff.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>09-04-2011, 22:10:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Thats cool :) I know RL can get on top of us all, but if you don't let me know about it, I can't work around it :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kolbrandr</strong> on <strong>11-04-2011, 03:47:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry, been getting beat up by work a lot as far as focus to sit down and write something at length.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>avorae</strong> on <strong>25-04-2011, 18:31:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				HELLO... Is anyone else still interested in this game????
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>25-04-2011, 19:01:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm hoping so :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>avorae</strong> on <strong>25-04-2011, 19:13:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4553216#msg4553216">Quote from: HairyHeretic on 25-04-2011, 19:01:55</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'm hoping so :)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I hope so too.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>25-04-2011, 19:45:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just sitting here in the doorway, wondering what to do next...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>25-04-2011, 20:05:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				You have Scent the Divine for free, so you can follow your nose to the table full of scions.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>25-04-2011, 20:09:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				...or maybe someone could say hello.<br><br>Or give me something to do in the meantime.<br><br>Perhaps an in-game prompt?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>20-05-2011, 16:33:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just to let you know, we might have someone interested in joining us.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>20-05-2011, 16:45:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Roger that!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>22-05-2011, 04:58:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hi there.&nbsp; Working on my char as I can force inspiration and squeak time between my other games.<br><br>Already mentioned the basics to Hairy but looking at Sandra Nocturne, a daughter of Artemis, unless I can get a better name sorted.<br><br>So 5 extra BP and Legend 3 free on top of the things mentioned in the very first post, right?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>02-06-2011, 19:43:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Does anyone have plans for the evening, or will we timejump?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>02-06-2011, 20:12:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Timejumping is good with me.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>02-06-2011, 21:38:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Let us fast forward.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>avorae</strong> on <strong>03-06-2011, 00:42:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				time Jump...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>11-06-2011, 00:32:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				So what kind of vehicle do we want?<br><br>The most likely options are Car and Pickup Truck/Van.&nbsp; Out of these, I recommend a van, or at the very least, something that can go off-road if necessary.&nbsp; After all, we're going into a forest.<br><br>However, I'll defer to the majority.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>11-06-2011, 15:59:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Van sounds good.<br><br>(Pardon my slowness.&nbsp; New job, et cetera.&nbsp; No internet access for personal use whilst on the clock, et cetera.)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Swordsman18</strong> on <strong>13-06-2011, 12:59:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I plan on joining this game if it is alright with you all.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>16-06-2011, 18:21:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				My apologies on the slowdown here. I've been in of those moods where you just can't seem to write. I seem to be getting over it though, so hope to get these sorted out in the next day or two.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>16-06-2011, 18:41:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Happens to the best of us.&nbsp; No worries.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>16-06-2011, 23:17:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				By the way, what's the date for the game?&nbsp; It's important to know for seasons, clothing and such.&nbsp; Depending on how cold it is, I may throw on a leather jacket for Sandra, or other heavy clothing.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>16-06-2011, 23:30:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I don't think it's been defined. Let's go with late summer.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>18-06-2011, 00:42:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I've been looking over the Scion rules and I have a few questions.<br><br>Do you still regain a point of Willpower after an 8 hour sleep or is that gone?<br><br>Is it possible to stunt to increase defense values if you aren't guarding?<br><br>Do stunts only pay off Legend/Willpower/XP if they're successful still?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>18-06-2011, 03:42:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4800278#msg4800278">Quote from: AndyZ on 18-06-2011, 00:42:57</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I've been looking over the Scion rules and I have a few questions.<br><br>Do you still regain a point of Willpower after an 8 hour sleep or is that gone?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I'm not familiar with that one. Do you have a page reference for where you saw it?<br><br>This is what the Hero book says<br><br>Characters regain their Willpower when they act in a way that restores their self-confidence and determination. The following are suggested ways in which a character may recover spent Willpower points, but the Storyteller is the final arbiter on when and how many points a character can regain.<br><br>Acting according to one’s Nature: When a character makes a decision or performs an action in accordance with her Nature that has a significant effect on the story, the character receives a Willpower point. (See the following “Nature” section for more details.) Spectacular deeds: When a character performs an exceptional action or behaves in a heroic manner that befits her role as a Scion, she receives a Willpower point.<br><br>Phenomenal stunts: Rather than receiving Legend points for performing a two-die or three-die stunt, the player can choose for the character to receive a Willpower point instead. (See Chapter Six, pp. 174-176 for more details on stunts.)<br><br>End of story: At the end of every story (not chapter), each character’s<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4800278#msg4800278">Quote from: AndyZ on 18-06-2011, 00:42:57</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Is it possible to stunt to increase defense values if you aren't guarding?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Interesting question, and one that no one has ever brought up with me before.&nbsp; I don't see anything in the rules to say you can, but I might allow it. Given that two dice generally translates into a single success, a 2 dice stunt could raise your DV by 1. <br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4800278#msg4800278">Quote from: AndyZ on 18-06-2011, 00:42:57</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Do stunts only pay off Legend/Willpower/XP if they're successful still?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Nope. If you earn the dice for the stunt, you earn the other goodies too. If the action doesn't work, well, them's the breaks.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>18-06-2011, 06:02:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4800840#msg4800840">Quote from: HairyHeretic on 18-06-2011, 03:42:33</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'm not familiar with that one. Do you have a page reference for where you saw it?<br><br>This is what the Hero book says<br><br>Characters regain their Willpower when they act in a way that restores their self-confidence and determination. The following are suggested ways in which a character may recover spent Willpower points, but the Storyteller is the final arbiter on when and how many points a character can regain.<br><br>Acting according to one’s Nature: When a character makes a decision or performs an action in accordance with her Nature that has a significant effect on the story, the character receives a Willpower point. (See the following “Nature” section for more details.) Spectacular deeds: When a character performs an exceptional action or behaves in a heroic manner that befits her role as a Scion, she receives a Willpower point.<br><br>Phenomenal stunts: Rather than receiving Legend points for performing a two-die or three-die stunt, the player can choose for the character to receive a Willpower point instead. (See Chapter Six, pp. 174-176 for more details on stunts.)<br><br>End of story: At the end of every story (not chapter), each character’s<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>In new World of Darkness, you regain a WP for every restful night of sleep.&nbsp; In Exalted, you roll Conviction and regain that many WP.&nbsp; It's just a bit strange that in Scion you don't regain any for sleeping.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4800840#msg4800840">Quote from: HairyHeretic on 18-06-2011, 03:42:33</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Interesting question, and one that no one has ever brought up with me before.&nbsp; I don't see anything in the rules to say you can, but I might allow it. Given that two dice generally translates into a single success, a 2 dice stunt could raise your DV by 1. <br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>In Exalted, the way I'd always played it, you could stunt your defense even without Guarding, and it would straight raise the Value by the amount.&nbsp; Granted that this may have been wrong.<br><br>I can totally understand not allowing it except while Guarding.&nbsp; This question list just arose as a surprise of some of the things I noticed.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4800840#msg4800840">Quote from: HairyHeretic on 18-06-2011, 03:42:33</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Nope. If you earn the dice for the stunt, you earn the other goodies too. If the action doesn't work, well, them's the breaks.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Yet another change from Exalted, where you only get the rewards if the action succeeds.&nbsp; Tears and sadness for someone like me who has failed on 3-dicers and lost out on XP.<br><br>Essentially, this whole question list makes me feel like I had a pretty bad case of idiocy yesterday.&nbsp; Thankfully, taking a nap seems to have dispensed of it.&nbsp; I hadn't realized there were so many differences from Exalted as there are.&nbsp; Still, I'm glad I checked and didn't end up making a fool of myself later.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>18-06-2011, 13:39:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				It's cool :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>24-06-2011, 23:13:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry this one has slowed down a little folks, I wanted to give our newcomes a chance to post, and the airport seemed the most likely spot for a meet up.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Iniquitous</strong> on <strong>24-06-2011, 23:27:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'll post after work tonight assuming work doesnt strangle my muse to death!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Swordsman18</strong> on <strong>24-06-2011, 23:50:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Same here. This will be the longest 7 hours of the summer. Wish me luck.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>avorae</strong> on <strong>28-06-2011, 03:47:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry about the disappearance but I got sucked into Champions online and it slipped my mind to post these last few weeks but I am back now and will post ASAP.<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>28-06-2011, 16:40:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4851136#msg4851136">Quote from: avorae on 28-06-2011, 03:47:50</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Sorry about the disappearance but I got sucked into Champions online and it slipped my mind to post these last few weeks but I am back now and will post ASAP.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Welcome back ^_^&nbsp; Good to see you again.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>29-06-2011, 05:50:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				(eyes new arrival in the Cast thread)<br><br>Oh, my!&nbsp; I think poor Seph is going to be a wee bit distracted for a while.&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;:)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Iniquitous</strong> on <strong>29-06-2011, 06:13:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				LOL
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>30-06-2011, 19:27:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Should we fast forward past the drive, maybe even past the hotel accommodations and move to the Black Forest?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Iniquitous</strong> on <strong>30-06-2011, 19:48:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, I think that is a bit much considering that my character has no clue what's going on or why she ended up detoured in Germany. Nor does she know everyone in the group. Heck, I dont think everyone in the group has even posted to Sword's character arriving, much less mine.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>30-06-2011, 20:01:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think a bit of getting to know you time is fine for right now, but I'm happy to work with whatever the group want.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Swordsman18</strong> on <strong>30-06-2011, 20:27:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I would like us to have at least the ride. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Lanzlo</strong> on <strong>30-06-2011, 21:56:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Agreed. Filling in/getting to know everyone on the ride to the Black Forest.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>05-07-2011, 02:27:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I checked the time and consulted with Hairy.&nbsp; I was thinking it'd be around 7pm, maybe 8pm, but it's actually closer to noon of the next day.&nbsp; The plane trip would've taken 17 hours and 41 minutes at the shortest connecting time, so...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>15-07-2011, 01:20:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I have an idea for a quick scene I might run to help everyone get their feet wet, but it kinda requires some death boons to make it work. Anyone got those? I figured I'd ask rather than go through 7 pages of OOC to check :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>15-07-2011, 01:23:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				No Death boons on me.&nbsp; However, if nobody has the required stuff, I'm okay with summoning an NPC who can help out, or using some other trick.<br><br>Am worn out and going to bed; I'll post when I wake up.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>16-07-2011, 19:48:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				One rank thereof.&nbsp; Something that kind of runs in the family...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>avorae</strong> on <strong>17-07-2011, 03:21:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				No Death boons for me. All I have is the first two ranks of Jutonblunt
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>20-07-2011, 19:43:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just to give everyone a head's up, I'm going to be starting a new job in a couple of weeks time, and moving across the country (have to find a new place yet), so my posting is likely to be sporadic for the next month or so.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>20-07-2011, 20:12:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				No worries, Hairy.&nbsp; If you need to take a pause or anything while you settle in, let us know.&nbsp; I'll try to help people with rules stuff so that you don't have to.<br><br>For those not used to dice rolling yet, for Scion you'll want the following values in the dice roller:<br><br>Dice: [The sum of the pertinent Attribute and Ability]<br>Sides: 10<br>Add: [The number of successes that you get from Epic]<br>Target Number: 7<br>Target Number: 10<br><br>Note that there's two different Target Number slots, one under Sides and one under Keep.&nbsp; Effectively, put TN1 as 7 and TN2 as 10.<br><br>Feel free to ask me if you want some help with this stuff.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Lanzlo</strong> on <strong>20-07-2011, 21:41:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				No problem.<br><br>Besides, it's fun listening in on the girls. :D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Iniquitous</strong> on <strong>20-07-2011, 21:56:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div align="center"><span style="font-family: comic sans ms;" class="bbc_font"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="bbc_size">Pervert! LOL</span></span></div>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>20-07-2011, 22:34:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4954182#msg4954182">Quote from: Koi on 20-07-2011, 21:56:57</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"><div align="center"><span style="font-family: comic sans ms;" class="bbc_font"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="bbc_size">Pervert! LOL</span></span></div></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Yes? :)<br><br>Oh, sorry, you meant him. My bad :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Iniquitous</strong> on <strong>20-07-2011, 22:36:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div align="center"><span style="font-family: comic sans ms;" class="bbc_font"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="bbc_size">LOL No, see with you - you are Master Pervert. Or is that Evil Pervert? Perhaps Evil Master Pervert?</span></span></div>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>20-07-2011, 22:41:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				So, you're calling me Master now? *strokes chin thoughtfully*&nbsp; &gt;:)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Iniquitous</strong> on <strong>20-07-2011, 22:51:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div align="center"><span style="font-family: comic sans ms;" class="bbc_font"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="bbc_size">Crap that was suppose to be Mister! :P :D <br>On a side note, you <strong>are</strong> dominate to me! But don't let that go to your head :P<br>Oh and .... GRATS on the job! Get the one you were talking about before?</span></span></div>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>20-07-2011, 23:10:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4954381#msg4954381">Quote from: Koi on 20-07-2011, 22:51:05</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"><div align="center"><span style="font-family: comic sans ms;" class="bbc_font"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="bbc_size">Crap that was suppose to be Mister! :P :D <br></span></span></div></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Your Freudian slip is showing? :P<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4954381#msg4954381">Quote from: Koi on 20-07-2011, 22:51:05</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">On a side note, you <strong>are</strong> dominate to me! But don't let that go to your head :P<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>As if I would *grins*<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg4954381#msg4954381">Quote from: Koi on 20-07-2011, 22:51:05</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Oh and .... GRATS on the job! Get the one you were talking about before?[/size][/font][/center]<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Yup.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Iniquitous</strong> on <strong>20-07-2011, 23:13:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div align="center"><span style="font-family: comic sans ms;" class="bbc_font"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="bbc_size">Nice! Really happy for you hun - now take over the company quick and hire me please? :P</span></span></div>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>20-07-2011, 23:17:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				It may take me a few weeks to take charge of them :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>avorae</strong> on <strong>21-07-2011, 04:42:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Congrats on the new job HH...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>21-07-2011, 05:35:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Noooo, MP stands for Mad...oh, I see.<br><br>Congrats, H2!&nbsp; We're still on for Far West when it launches, right?&nbsp; &nbsp;;D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>21-07-2011, 15:58:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'll certainly be taking a look at it.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Iniquitous</strong> on <strong>23-07-2011, 05:37:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ok, either the stress has finally gotten to me and I am losing it ... or... there's something in my soda... but I am giggling at Elsa calling Ophelia a cousin. Not sure how Scion has it but Thor and Freyr, in Norse mythology, are not related at all. They are from different tribes altogether LOL.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>avorae</strong> on <strong>23-07-2011, 14:01:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				While it is true that that Freyr and Thor are from different tribes that joined together which is even stated in the scion Fluff Elsa simply considers them as an extended family. Of which even the scion book does as well seeing as when it comes to Scent the Divine knack both tribes have the exact same signal.<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>28-07-2011, 21:30:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'll need rolls from our investigators in order to proceed please :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>28-07-2011, 22:14:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I need to know if I get any stunt dice before I can roll
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>28-07-2011, 22:36:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Take 1
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Iniquitous</strong> on <strong>28-08-2011, 17:44:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div align="center"><span style="font-family: comic sans ms;" class="bbc_font"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="bbc_size">little confused here since I am still trying to catch up with everything after all the OT I did... where the heck is my character? Last time I posted she was in the hotel room with three others and now I see that there has been a time jump?</span></span></div>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>28-08-2011, 17:57:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Only a little I think. Some people went downstairs to gather info, and I think they're moving out into the woods now.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>28-08-2011, 17:58:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg5128304#msg5128304">Quote from: Koi on 28-08-2011, 17:44:25</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"><div align="center"><span style="font-family: comic sans ms;" class="bbc_font"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="bbc_size">little confused here since I am still trying to catch up with everything after all the OT I did... where the heck is my character? Last time I posted she was in the hotel room with three others and now I see that there has been a time jump?</span></span></div></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Hairy gave us a minor timejump to the next scene in order to jumpstart the game again.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Iniquitous</strong> on <strong>28-08-2011, 18:06:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div align="center"><span style="font-family: comic sans ms;" class="bbc_font"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="bbc_size">So, um just assume my char was moved to whereever?</span></span></div>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>28-08-2011, 18:07:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yes.&nbsp; &nbsp;:-)&nbsp; We're all in the woods, wandering around like the clueless tourists we aren't.&nbsp; &nbsp;;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>28-08-2011, 18:17:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Your character is where they need to be. Such is the workings of Fate ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>29-08-2011, 00:39:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Would also like to suggest that we took the time during the fast forward to exchange phone numbers.&nbsp; Anyone who would like to have Sandra's phone number is welcome to it.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>29-08-2011, 00:49:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				A little clarification ...<br><br>I saw this town as being the last place the missing seer had been positively spotted. The Black Forest itself is at the outskirts of town, so you're in the right place to be beginning the investigation. Sorry for any confusion on my part.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Swordsman18</strong> on <strong>30-08-2011, 19:45:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well we are down to 5 member team now...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>08-09-2011, 22:38:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm a little confused.&nbsp; With night having fallen, did we end up going to the bar or not?&nbsp; If so, did we get any information there?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>08-09-2011, 22:40:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Consider yourselves in the bar, having a meal and some drinks and listening to the local news. What specific information are you after?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>08-09-2011, 22:42:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'll let the others post for themselves, but Sandra (if she can find English speakers) will be asking about various interesting sites in the forest.&nbsp; Waterfalls, rock formations, and so on.&nbsp; In other words, the places of power which Sibyls use to channel their abilities, though of course she won't say that.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>08-09-2011, 22:46:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ok, give me a roll for that and let's see what you find.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>08-09-2011, 22:48:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Roll Result: AndyZ rolled: 5d10, adding 1to the total<br>First Target Number: 7<br>Second Target Number: 10<br>Comment: Manipulation+Presence<br>Result: 5, 4, 3, 4, 3, <br>For: 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, <br>Total: 1<br><br>Really starting to hate this DR.&nbsp; 1s.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>08-09-2011, 23:06:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Nothing really so far, more touristy sights are what you're getting for now.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>08-09-2011, 23:13:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				The somberly dressed figures are on the tv. Sorry if that wasn't clear. You know, minor local politicians and such.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>08-09-2011, 23:15:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ahh.&nbsp; Okay, I'll fix my post.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Swordsman18</strong> on <strong>19-09-2011, 02:01:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				If needs be I will post that Ken has stopped in another hotel on his way back since I have no idea how to get him back in the story and I do not want to hold you all up since I know that you were all not able to finish your investigation since Ken was not there. So this way things can get done and Ken will not be in the way of that.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>19-09-2011, 05:04:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Why not just catch up with us right now?&nbsp; Or when we drive back around to pick Seph up?<br><br>I'm thinking that during my next post, I'll have Sandra send a text for everyone to meet back up at the hotel suite in half an hour.&nbsp; Then everyone can compare notes, give what information they have and we can discuss plans.&nbsp; Ken can then meet us at the hotel room and we can fill him in on what he's missed.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>26-09-2011, 22:18:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Do you guys really want to go tramping round a forest at night?<br><br>We're talking this sort of terrain<br><br>(http://www.listeningearth.com.au/blog_images/2010_05/BSC_02.jpg)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>26-09-2011, 22:19:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sandra would be good with it, though others might not.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>26-09-2011, 22:31:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Although if you're giving us a chance to plan, I'm fine with that.&nbsp; I thought we were fast forwarding is all.<br><br>Want me to remove my last post?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>26-09-2011, 23:31:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Might be an idea to plan and discuss, unless she wants to run off on her own at night.<br><br>What could possibly go wrong there?&nbsp; &gt;:)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>26-09-2011, 23:34:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I thought you were fast forwarding us to the forest.&nbsp; I didn't realize you were just passing down information.&nbsp; My apologies and the post has been deleted.&nbsp; I see the plan now.<br><br>Everyone else reading this, have your characters show up at the hotel for planning and discussion.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>27-09-2011, 00:36:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ah, I can see why you might have thought that. Sorry, it was meant to be info for usin in the planning.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>27-09-2011, 00:37:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				No worries ^_^&nbsp; All on the same page now.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>14-10-2011, 04:07:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Is this game dying?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>14-10-2011, 10:31:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm rather behind in my posting right now. Work has moved to a new office, so I'm spending an additional hour plus each way commuting, which is eating into my time more than it ought to. I have my weekends to catch up, in theory, but the last one or two of those I haven't got a lot of posting done either.<br><br>Who is interested in keeping going, and who would rather let this one go? I know I'm not at my best, GM-wise, at present, so I'll not bear anyone ill will if they want to bow out :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>avorae</strong> on <strong>14-10-2011, 12:27:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I am still very much interested in continuing even if it is at a slow pace at the moment.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>14-10-2011, 18:26:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I would absolutely like to keep going.<br><br>I'll just have Sandra help move things along if that's alright, if folks haven't posted for a while.&nbsp; Like getting everyone back to the suite so that they can talk.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Swordsman18</strong> on <strong>14-10-2011, 18:47:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I would like to keep going
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>15-10-2011, 03:44:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Would love to keep going.&nbsp; Just not sure how well I can do...&nbsp; :-\
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>18-10-2011, 13:17:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think for right now, it's best for folks to just muddle through, do their best and just go along with the group when they can't post.&nbsp; I'll try to keep things going so that it doesn't die, at least as much as I can do as a player.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>07-11-2011, 08:25:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/7109/scionmotivational.jpg)<br><br>In thanks to the encouragement of Swordsman18
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>23-12-2011, 20:05:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				With deep and apologetic regrets, I must fold this hand, collect my meagre pile of chips, and pull away from the table.<br><br>Inspiration has utterly failed, and I've fallen so behind the curve that I am no longer in sync with the remainder of the group.&nbsp; :-(&nbsp; This one just failed to keep a hold of my imagination.<br><br>Sorry, all.&nbsp; Best of luck, and thank you for bearing with me.&nbsp; Seph might be back some other time.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>23-12-2011, 21:37:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				No worries mate, I'm in much the same boat myself. Constant shift changes and mad busy work mean I'm posting next to nothing these days, and probably won't til the new year.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>24-12-2011, 01:48:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg5628959#msg5628959">Quote from: MadPanda on 23-12-2011, 20:05:42</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">With deep and apologetic regrets, I must fold this hand, collect my meagre pile of chips, and pull away from the table.<br><br>Inspiration has utterly failed, and I've fallen so behind the curve that I am no longer in sync with the remainder of the group.&nbsp; :-(&nbsp; This one just failed to keep a hold of my imagination.<br><br>Sorry, all.&nbsp; Best of luck, and thank you for bearing with me.&nbsp; Seph might be back some other time.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Sad to see you leave, but I understand.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Lanzlo</strong> on <strong>24-12-2011, 19:46:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=98122.msg5628959#msg5628959">Quote from: MadPanda on 23-12-2011, 20:05:42</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">With deep and apologetic regrets, I must fold this hand, collect my meagre pile of chips, and pull away from the table.<br><br>Inspiration has utterly failed, and I've fallen so behind the curve that I am no longer in sync with the remainder of the group.&nbsp; :-(&nbsp; This one just failed to keep a hold of my imagination.<br><br>Sorry, all.&nbsp; Best of luck, and thank you for bearing with me.&nbsp; Seph might be back some other time.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>What? WHAT? You're leaving me alone here? :P<br><br>Nah, I understand how it is. Sorry to see you go.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>07-03-2012, 05:42:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Someday I hope for this game to come back from the dead.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>07-03-2012, 17:06:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I actually have holiday this week, so I'm going to see about dusting off my old games, see who wants to play, restart or whatever.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>avorae</strong> on <strong>08-03-2012, 02:05:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I would so love to have this game to start back up as well
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>09-03-2012, 15:23:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Is it specifically this game you guys want to see restart, or continue from where we are, or would you rather do a fresh start with a new Scion game?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>09-03-2012, 17:01:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				if we do a restart with the same characters, I might be able to jump back in!&nbsp; &nbsp;:-[ :-)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>10-03-2012, 00:06:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Either way really.&nbsp; I'd like to keep Sandra though.<br><br>If we start things over, I might change her sheet around a bit now that I'm a little more familiar with Scion.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>avorae</strong> on <strong>10-03-2012, 05:55:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				If we do start a new scion game i'd like to keep the character I had in this one but aside from that i am fine with whatever.<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>10-03-2012, 14:49:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, we could call what has happened chapter 1, and the investigation of the ongoing weird stuff chapter 2. We have the ghosts or whatever they are at the supermarket, the guy who can see them (and possibly be possessed by them), and then the falls as well to investigate. Is there a link between them, or is it simply Fate putting the Scions where they can do the most good?<br><br>If people wanted to adjust their characters, to an extent, I'd probably be fine with that.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Lanzlo</strong> on <strong>17-03-2012, 02:29:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Either way, Paul is ready to continue. :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>17-03-2012, 16:23:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sounds like we have enough to pick up with then.<br><br>Ok, my suggestion is we do a short flash forward to the next morning. I'll write up a little filler and we can go on from there.<br><br>Does anyone want to make any changes to their characters while we reboot?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>17-03-2012, 16:59:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think I'll leave Sandra's sheet just as is.<br><br>Point of XP for the scene change, I presume?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>17-03-2012, 17:14:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Aye.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>17-03-2012, 17:40:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm good.&nbsp; I just have to get back into Seph's head.&nbsp; :-(<br><br>(PS Far West is due to go to the printers later this month, which means backers will have their PDFs soonish!)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>17-03-2012, 18:06:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sweet. I'm looking forward to that.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>avorae</strong> on <strong>19-03-2012, 04:17:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Elsa is just fine the way she is so I don't need to make any changes to her.<br><br>By the way what is This Far West book about ???
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>19-03-2012, 04:34:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				intothefarwest.com for details.<br><br>Blame H2.&nbsp; &nbsp;;D&nbsp; He's the one told me about this one.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>21-03-2012, 18:54:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				This is the weekend for my city's annual anime convention.&nbsp; As such, posting will slow to a crawl starting Thursday until Sunday.&nbsp; I'll still have Skype via my phone and people who have that can contact me, and I'll receive posts through e-mail, I just won't be responding until I have a computer at hand.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>25-03-2012, 06:03:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I can't find my paper sheet, so I updated the one on the character thread to the best of my recollection.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>25-03-2012, 15:42:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				No worries.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>avorae</strong> on <strong>04-05-2012, 17:15:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				So sorry about the delay in posting. Work has been rather hectic as of late but I will get a post up ASAP.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>05-05-2012, 02:03:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				NP, I'm rather busy myself the last while, and changing shifts always throws me out of whack a bit.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>05-05-2012, 02:06:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I can't shake the feeling that Sandra should be doing something but I forget what.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>10-05-2012, 11:57:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I came across this story earlier today.<br><br>http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/movies/hammer-films-to-tackle-the-story-of-the-winchester-mystery-house/story-e6frfmvr-1226352001738 (http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/movies/hammer-films-to-tackle-the-story-of-the-winchester-mystery-house/story-e6frfmvr-1226352001738)<br><br>Does this place sound like it belongs in a Scion game or what? :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>22-05-2012, 15:18:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				In case you haven't seen my A&amp;A thread, I've put all my games on hold. I'll let you know if or when this changes.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>22-05-2012, 15:21:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I hadn't; thanks for the heads up.&nbsp; What's the link to your A&amp;A thread?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>22-05-2012, 15:43:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=11257.0 (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=11257.0)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>25-06-2012, 13:36:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think I'm at the point where I can start up writing again. Anyone still around?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>avorae</strong> on <strong>25-06-2012, 15:11:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I am still around....
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>25-06-2012, 19:32:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Still here
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>26-06-2012, 03:28:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Delayed but here
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Lanzlo</strong> on <strong>26-06-2012, 21:32:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yep, still here.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ixy</strong> on <strong>27-06-2012, 04:05:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Still interested in this story, if you're seeking new players.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>27-06-2012, 04:21:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Looks like there is interest enough to get it up and going again :)<br><br>I'll try and get a story post up tomorrow, about to hit they hay.<br><br>Ixy, PM me and we can talk further tomorrow.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>05-08-2012, 21:13:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry for the slow posting rate folks. It's a mixture of work leaving me rather drained, and my muse being more or less AWOL.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [Scion] The Unfinished Saga - OOC thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AndyZ</strong> on <strong>05-08-2012, 21:14:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				No worries ^_^&nbsp; We'll just post and you can add stuff whenever you can
			</dd>
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