[HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)
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				Title: <strong>[HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Montagne</strong> on <strong>08-03-2012, 01:17:21</strong>
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				<div align="center">Come drop in and say hi, the fires nice and warm.<br><br>Use this section for just regular chatter, as well as for planning with other players.</div>
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The plotting room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>08-03-2012, 01:55:59</strong>
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				(enters to the strains of the Imperial March, doing his best Severus Snape imitation)<br><br>The antitdote for the spiked punch is in the fridge, our host's Personal Guard are foresworn to pacifism, and the pretty little thing making eyes at you is Count Kether's master spy.<br><br>I do believe we're mostly set.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The plotting room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkRose15</strong> on <strong>08-03-2012, 03:10:53</strong>
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				*comes in next wearing Slave Leia's bikini* <br><br>Oh the antidote? Dear me, someone must have knocked that glass over. I felt I should tell you right away as I thought it might be important.<br><br>*smiles politely* I'm certain we'll find the scoundrel soon enough...
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The plotting room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Montagne</strong> on <strong>08-03-2012, 12:04:09</strong>
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				Rules for romance are up ;D
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>08-03-2012, 16:23:06</strong>
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				Time to decide our Contacts!<br><br>I already have two connections: Athos is my brother-in-law and Teague is my cousin.&nbsp; Either <em>could</em> still be a Contact, but it'll probably be better to consider other options.<br><br>Ato's been around, so he could have met just about anybody whilst gallivanting around as a Master of the Road in his father's service.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Athos</strong> on <strong>08-03-2012, 17:44:57</strong>
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				*pokes his head into the OOC thread* Hey all! Glad to see things starting to come together. Like MP said, my character is his brother in law, but I'm also open to any other potential contacts so if anyone's looking send me a PM :D. 
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Montagne</strong> on <strong>08-03-2012, 20:06:12</strong>
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				Would players prefer to work together and decide their own contacts or be assigned them by me?
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>08-03-2012, 20:17:18</strong>
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				Contacts are <em>player</em>-selected.&nbsp; Give us enough rope, yeah?&nbsp; &nbsp;:-)<br><br>UPDATE: something useful!&nbsp; The Second Edition of the ven lexicon, posted yesterday on the HotB forums.<br><br>https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=50db8c9f744a0df4&amp;id=50DB8C9F744A0DF4!371 (https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=50db8c9f744a0df4&amp;id=50DB8C9F744A0DF4!371)<br><br>Suggest a Rules Reference and Cast thread as well, so we don't have to go back to the Players Wanted thread.&nbsp; :-)
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Montagne</strong> on <strong>08-03-2012, 21:31:12</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=134023.msg5970062#msg5970062">Quote from: MadPanda on 08-03-2012, 20:17:18</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Contacts are <em>player</em>-selected.&nbsp; Give us enough rope, yeah?&nbsp; &nbsp;:-)<br><br>UPDATE: something useful!&nbsp; The Second Edition of the ven lexicon, posted yesterday on the HotB forums.<br><br>https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=50db8c9f744a0df4&amp;id=50DB8C9F744A0DF4!371 (https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=50db8c9f744a0df4&amp;id=50DB8C9F744A0DF4!371)<br><br>Suggest a Rules Reference and Cast thread as well, so we don't have to go back to the Players Wanted thread.&nbsp; :-)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Gonna transfer it to the opening post momentarily. I know the contacts are usually player selected, and to be fair I'm see we've all already got chatting about plans anyways :) remember one contact each.<br><br>Many thanks for the lexicon (must peruse the HotB forums) When you use the words from the lexicon (great idea) can you also post the translation in brackets, just so it isn't necessary to go looking for it through the list. Not a necessary to use it, just adds colour if you want to use Ven words.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>08-03-2012, 21:35:36</strong>
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				Ooo!&nbsp; Translation.&nbsp; Excellent idea.&nbsp; &nbsp;;D&nbsp; I'll have to remember to do that.&nbsp; May have to use footnotes if I go overboard.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Montagne</strong> on <strong>08-03-2012, 23:27:46</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=134023.msg5970330#msg5970330">Quote from: MadPanda on 08-03-2012, 21:35:36</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Ooo!&nbsp; Translation.&nbsp; Excellent idea.&nbsp; &nbsp;;D&nbsp; I'll have to remember to do that.&nbsp; May have to use footnotes if I go overboard.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Yea, that would be a good idea, I assumed you liked it when i saw the Ven words in your background, had to look themselves up myself lol. ;D
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkRose15</strong> on <strong>09-03-2012, 01:38:19</strong>
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				*pokes head in* WASSAAAAPPPPPP!?
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>09-03-2012, 01:44:23</strong>
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				Just waiting on the others at this point.&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;:)
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkRose15</strong> on <strong>09-03-2012, 02:09:56</strong>
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				Delightful&nbsp; &gt;:)
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Montagne</strong> on <strong>10-03-2012, 02:55:52</strong>
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				Okay dokey. Whilst we prepare out characters I thought I would give everyone something to do whilst they wait for the IC to start. The players first IC encounter will be based around this:<br><br>Your characters have been sent by their count, to a neighboring county. This count's daughter is undergoing her naming ceremony, where she will be given a parcel of land by her father, bordering your counts lands.<br><br>That is all that is decided at the moment, nothing is known about the count, the daughter or the land she was awarded. I will begin by stating 3 facts on each subject, and you will then get the chance to add your own until we have a big picture of the world. To do this we wager, as we do for most things in the game.<br><br><br>We'll start with the land:<br><br>- The area borders your counts land.<br>- It contains something valuable.<br>- The peasants are disgruntled.<br><br>Now, you can either add to these 3 facts, or create entirely new ones of your own. I've left my open ended to let you guys have something to play with, but try to keep yours reasonably specific, and the more interesting it will make the plot the better. Don't say anything that directly conflicts with stuff posted above you.<br><br>To declare facts, roll your wisdom skill, plus and aspects you may think are appropriate. You must roll a combined total on all your dice (D6's) of 10. If you roll a 10 you may declare one fact. If you think you can get 10 with less dice you may put aside dice as wagers, every dice you do not roll allows you to declare one more fact. <br><br>Eg if i have a wisdom of 5, and choose to roll 3D6, I may declare 3 facts if i am successful. (2 wagers plus 1 for being successful)<br><br><br><br>If you fail your wisdom roll, you may make half your wagers, rounded up, worth of facts. You do not get your success wager either.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>10-03-2012, 02:59:36</strong>
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				Yaaaay, Wisdom Risks!<br><br>Remember these, campers.&nbsp; We'll be making a lot of them.&nbsp; Except for me, for pretty obvious reasons.&nbsp; Ato is not much for this fancy-schmancy book-learnin' stuff.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkRose15</strong> on <strong>10-03-2012, 06:28:37</strong>
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				*will hopefully be able to figure out something cool to contribute* :)
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>10-03-2012, 17:52:27</strong>
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				Since I cannot contribute directly, here are a few modest questions to consider while those of you who have 'em spend your Wagers:<br><br>Why are the peasants disgruntled?&nbsp; Anyone with a Spy Net may be stirring up Trouble.&nbsp; Is it one of us?&nbsp; One of our relatives?&nbsp; Is it our liege?&nbsp; Or is our neighbor just bad at their job?<br><br>What's valuable?&nbsp; Ruins?&nbsp; Plains (with the attendant Luxury production)?&nbsp; Is it perhaps a Holding?<br><br>How about our neighbor?&nbsp; Are they a Baron, like us?&nbsp; Who is their liege?&nbsp; Does anyone have history with them?<br><br>Go nuts, folks!
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Montagne</strong> on <strong>11-03-2012, 01:15:13</strong>
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				Just going to change the rules slightly due to there being a few people without various skills. I'm going to give everyone one free fact to define, no rolling involved. <br><br>This means you get 1 fact, plus one more if you score over 10, plus each wager.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkRose15</strong> on <strong>11-03-2012, 01:33:20</strong>
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				On 4D6 (no wagers)= 15<br><br>-- The land contains rare poisons<br>--The people are upset because of cruel taxes uses to fund the girl's lavish lifestyle
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>11-03-2012, 01:40:57</strong>
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				(Free wager)&nbsp; The neighboring noble is on the verge of Solace.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkRose15</strong> on <strong>11-03-2012, 06:31:21</strong>
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				Ooooooh nicey nice! :D
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Athos</strong> on <strong>13-03-2012, 00:44:18</strong>
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				Alrighty then,<br><br>Rolled 2D6 (no wagers) and came up with a 6. By my understanding, that means all I get is my free wager which is as follows:<br><br>The land was once a thriving center of trade but now suffers because of over taxation.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>13-03-2012, 18:40:25</strong>
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				Okay, quick check...RD, are these lands already in our liege's hands and thus being passed to the daughter, or are they still officially in someone else's hands?&nbsp; I note a bit of confusion on this point.<br><br>And one note of caution!&nbsp; Since not everybody has access to the rules, please be aware of this bit from HotB p114:<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">If the total of your roll is equal to or greater than ten, you get to say “Yes, I got my intention,” or “No, I did not get my intention.”<br><br>You may be as clever or creative as you like, but you cannot embellish your answer with additional details. Either “Yes,” or “No.” You can say why your character succeeded or failed, but when you do so, you cannot use any conjunctions or disjunctions.<br><br><strong>In other words, your narration of the risk cannot include words like: <em>for</em>, <em>and</em>, <em>nor</em>, <em>but</em>, <em>or</em>, <em>yet</em>, and <em>so</em>.</strong> <br><br>The Narrator has the same rules. When he narrates the outcome of your risk, he cannot elaborate, either.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>One wager, one thing.&nbsp; <br><br>I would note that it is NOT inappropriate to start an additional wager with one of these words, judging by the examples scattered throughout the book.&nbsp; What's not appropriate is using any of those conjunctions in one statement, counting it as either the effect from privilege or as the result of a single wager.<br><br>And, to condense what we have so far...with a few system-related notes that come to mind.&nbsp; Apologies for my edits, which are simply where my mind is going and are not official in the least.<br><br><strong>What We Know About The Lands</strong><br>1.&nbsp; The area borders your Count's land.<br>...The neighboring noble is on the verge of Solace.<br>2.&nbsp; It contains something valuable.<br>...The land contains rare poisons<br>3.&nbsp; The peasants are disgruntled. (That is, regions within this new province are in Trouble.)<br>...because of cruel taxes used to fund the girl's lavish lifestyle*) (Someone's been acting the Tyrant: trading extra production for a plunge in Loyalty.&nbsp; This tells us that whoever is currently in charge has a Master Spy, because you need one of those to carry out this particular Season Action..)<br>...The land was once a thriving center of trade (but now suffers because of over taxation**).<br><br>* In spite of my confusion on this point, it is our liege's neighbor's daughter who is receiving the land.<br>** As noted, this is two things on one wager, but since the second part was already established by a prior wager it's okay.<br><br>So, who's next?&nbsp; &nbsp;:-)<br><br>EDITed to remove my own moment of confusion.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Athos</strong> on <strong>13-03-2012, 19:00:06</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=134023.msg5990526#msg5990526">Quote from: MadPanda on 13-03-2012, 18:40:25</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">** As noted, this is two things on one wager, but since the second part was already established by a prior wager it's okay.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Gotcha, I'll keep that in mind for next time. :)
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				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>13-03-2012, 19:32:06</strong>
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				It's kind of subtle, and I forget it myself from time to time.&nbsp; &nbsp;;D&nbsp; It's like trying to figure out the break-point between details in Wushu...
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Montagne</strong> on <strong>14-03-2012, 01:48:29</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=134023.msg5990526#msg5990526">Quote from: MadPanda on 13-03-2012, 18:40:25</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Okay, quick check...RD, are these lands already in our liege's hands and thus being passed to the daughter, or are they still officially in someone else's hands?&nbsp; I note a bit of confusion on this point.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>It's not in the hands of your liege. It's a neighboring count. His daughter is about to have her naming ceremony, and be awarded the land as a gift, along with some of daddies guards to help her hold it till she can establish a foothold. (possible point of intrigue if one of them feels more deserving)<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=134023.msg5990526#msg5990526">Quote from: MadPanda on 13-03-2012, 18:40:25</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"><br>* Not sure about this one, since the lands may not have been formally handed over to the daughter, as per the GM's initial description of the situation.&nbsp; It's a good idea, though, and should be retained as best we can.<br><br><br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Not necessarily an issue, just present a few inferences that are actually quite fun. I can still have been her fathers land, but taxed heavily to pay for her lifestyle. This would imply that she always gets her way for some reason (which could be something to talk about when defining her in the later set of rolls) and gets lavish gifts from her father. It also infers that it has some luxury to fund said gifts.<br>
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>14-03-2012, 02:31:05</strong>
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				Okay, that's what I thought: the neighboring noble's land is what will be handed to their daughter.&nbsp; Which means either conquest (and maybe secret armies!) or some other arrangement by which this impoverished territory full of revolting <em>veth</em>and accounts in arrears is trading hands.<br><br>Hmmm.&nbsp; That brings <em>another</em> possibility to mind, but I'm all out of Wisdom wagers...&nbsp; :P<br><br><br>Veth--n.&nbsp; Peasants.&nbsp; (lit. 'dirt')<br><br><br>UPDATE: missed the bloody obvious.&nbsp; Sorry 'bout that, RD.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkRose15</strong> on <strong>14-03-2012, 02:35:45</strong>
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				Veth'n. Heh :)
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>14-03-2012, 04:04:03</strong>
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				that's, ah, <em>veth</em>...followed by 'n' for noun...&nbsp; &nbsp;:-[
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkRose15</strong> on <strong>14-03-2012, 05:09:52</strong>
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				Ah. -_- sry.
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				Post by: <strong>Teague</strong> on <strong>16-03-2012, 13:05:58</strong>
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				*jogs in, then sweatflops on the floor.* I'm here. I made it. <br><br>I have a feeling that I may well just need others to start, and follow their leads. I still find myself a bit confused as to various rules, and the truth is I may be over thinking things. 
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>16-03-2012, 16:10:36</strong>
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				This part is actually very easy--the actual rules of Houses are quite simple.&nbsp; Deceptively so, in some cases!&nbsp; (Season Actions...&nbsp; :o&nbsp; )<br><br>What's your Wisdom score?&nbsp; Take that many d6 and roll them.&nbsp; You're looking for 10 or better.&nbsp; If you get 10 or better, you get to say two things about the lands which are about to be bestowed on our liege's neighbor's daughter.<br><br>If you took Wisdom as your Weakness, or if you roll less than 10, you get to say one thing.&nbsp; (Or, if you'd prefer to skip the die roll, you can just say one thing.)&nbsp; You just cannot contradict anything that's already been stated...just like in improv.<br><br>Feel free to discuss your thoughts before officially declaring your statement of fact!&nbsp; Normally this would cost you a Style Point, but we haven't really started yet.<br><br><br>EDIT: I must have missed the obvious, but RD has pointed out that the lands are being bestowed upon our liege's neighbor's daughter.&nbsp; And all this time I've been thinking it was our liege's daughter...(facepalm)&nbsp; hence my confusion!&nbsp; And now to go edit my summary, which contains a few incorrect points...
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				Post by: <strong>Teague</strong> on <strong>18-03-2012, 07:51:34</strong>
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				concept: Young widow<br>Father is Bear<br>Mother is Fox<br>Father was/is the Dominant one<br>My character is 3rd child, but only surviving<br>No children<br>Father was/is Marquis<br><br>Family name: Meza<br>Chosen name: Rajh<br>Secret name:Szazs<br><br>Beauty is her Weakness<br>Strength 3<br>courage 3<br>Prowess 4<br>Cunning 2<br>Wisdom 2<br><br>Devotion Petra the Stoic<br><br>Aspects Clear sighted, Vengeful <br><br>That's what I have for my character sheet so far. Any suggestions? 
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				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>18-03-2012, 18:24:24</strong>
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				So far, so good.&nbsp; As she's following in Dad's footsteps as a Bear, then you may add 1 to Strength.&nbsp; (Can't be a Fox since Beauty is her Weakness.)<br><br>(And, as a quick aside, give us a 2d6 roll.&nbsp; If it's 10 or higher, you get to say two things about those Lands we keep mentioning.)<br><br>Out of curiosity, who was your husband?&nbsp; You might have an in-law or two in the party&nbsp; ;D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Teague</strong> on <strong>27-03-2012, 09:33:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ugh. I've been crashed by some personal issues, and it might take me a couple of weeks to sort it. I don't want to hold anyone back, so ya'll go ahead. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>27-03-2012, 15:31:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				We can catch you up pretty quickly, I think.&nbsp; Good luck with the RL stuff!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkRose15</strong> on <strong>28-03-2012, 01:38:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yvaytha wants to seduce some peoples ;) hehe!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>03-04-2012, 18:33:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				(kicks thread) (frowns in concern)<br><br>Anyone else still here?&nbsp; I have an idea to get us started, but it won't do any good if I'm all alone in the echo chamber.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Athos</strong> on <strong>04-04-2012, 01:50:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm still around. I'm down for anything, just let me know.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkRose15</strong> on <strong>04-04-2012, 03:42:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*raises hand* I'm still here!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>04-04-2012, 18:04:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm terribly busy IRL today, but I should have a story thread up by tomorrow.&nbsp; In the meantime, here's a quick recap:<br><br><strong>What We Know About The Lands</strong><br>1.&nbsp; The area borders your Count's land.<br>...The neighboring noble is on the verge of Solace.<br>2.&nbsp; It contains something valuable.<br>...The land contains rare poisons<br>3.&nbsp; The peasants are disgruntled.<br>...because of cruel taxes used to fund the girl's lavish lifestyle.<br>...The land was once a thriving center of trade.<br><br>You may make two additional Wisdom risks to round out the following statements about the neighboring Count and his Daughter.&nbsp; Since, unfortunately, I have no idea what RD had in mind for any of this, I'm making it up off the top of my head.&nbsp; Hopefully he won't be too irked at me.&nbsp; :-)&nbsp; Things we know because of the Lands are in italics.<br><br><strong>The Count</strong><br>1.&nbsp; He's Blooded of the Elk.<br>2.&nbsp; He is our liege's cordial enemy.<br>3.&nbsp; He desires to abdicate in his daughter's favor.<br><em>...and he's approaching Solace.</em><br><br><strong>The Daughter</strong><br>1.&nbsp; She's Blooded of the Fox.<br>2.&nbsp; She is not yet married.<br>3.&nbsp; She is her father's only surviving child.<br><em>...and she's been overtaxing her lands<br>...to pay for her lavish lifestyle<br>...thus ruining a thriving center of trade</em><br><br>Go to town, kids!&nbsp; Also, when we get started, you will get to describe the gift that you have brought to the ceremony.&nbsp; It's going to be Rank 1, and this is a freebie--assuming that you had enough notice beforehand to make sure it got crafted over the winter, or made arrangements with your liege to provide something appropriate.<br><br>So...one free wager, come what may, and a Wisdom Risk for anything more.&nbsp; Go!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkRose15</strong> on <strong>05-04-2012, 03:11:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*pokes head in*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Athos</strong> on <strong>05-04-2012, 05:08:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Okay... I'm going to go for round 2 and see if I get this right this time.<br><br>First, the count:<br><br>I'll be rolling 2d6 (no wagers cause I don't have enough dice). <br><br>The result is: 6 and 3 = 9. So no statement from me about the Count.<br><br>Now the daughter:<br><br>Result: 2 and 1 = 3. Guess its not my day for rolling things.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkRose15</strong> on <strong>05-04-2012, 05:14:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*takes a seat*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>05-04-2012, 06:50:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				DarkRose, please make your Wisdom risks.<br><br>Athos, you still get one free Wager about both the Count and his daughter, free and clear.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkRose15</strong> on <strong>05-04-2012, 06:59:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think most of my stuff is done.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Athos</strong> on <strong>05-04-2012, 07:03:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh yeah, I remember. Okay, here we go.<br><br>Free wagers:<br><br>Count: He once fought a duel with our liege.<br><br>Daughter: She wishes to marry someone of higher rank. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkRose15</strong> on <strong>05-04-2012, 07:06:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=134023.msg6096473#msg6096473">Quote from: MadPanda on 05-04-2012, 06:50:24</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">DarkRose, please make your Wisdom risks.<br><br>Athos, you still get one free Wager about both the Count and his daughter, free and clear.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div> I thought I'd already done that with Red already??
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>05-04-2012, 07:08:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Perfect!&nbsp; Thanks, Athos.<br><br>DarkRose, your <span class="bbc_u">character</span> is done.&nbsp; As was your first Wisdom Risk, which related to the lands being transferred during the ceremony you're all traveling to witness.&nbsp; I've now posted a request for two more: one to see what you know about the neighboring Count himself and one to see what you know about his daughter.<br><br>So please make two more Wisdom risks--anything you left with RD, I do not have.&nbsp; Since I'm technically co-GMing, I'm kicking this game into gear on my own for now lest it die completely.<br><br>Please my post made this morning at 9am for the details.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkRose15</strong> on <strong>05-04-2012, 07:16:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Would you kindly explain how to do the wisdom rolls again please? I think it's 4d6 for me but I'm not quite sure. I would use my character sheet correct?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>05-04-2012, 07:51:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yes, do please check your character sheet.&nbsp; <div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Spoiler: Click to Show/Hide</div><div class="spoiler_body">Note to self--make separate copies of everyone's character sheet...</div></div>&nbsp; If your Wisdom score is 4, then you get 4d6 to roll, looking for 10 or better.&nbsp; Or you can Wager one or two dice, dropping your pool to 3d6 with one wager or 2d6 with two.&nbsp; If your Weakness happens to be Wisdom&nbsp; :-[&nbsp; then you don't normally get to make Wisdom risks at all.<br><br>Right now, you automatically get to say one thing already about the Count, and one thing about his daughter.&nbsp; That's the 'freebie' that RD gave us all because he wanted me to start to show everyone how it worked, and Ato's weakness is...Wisdom.<br><br>If you get 10 or better on the roll, then you can say two things about the Count: one for the freebie, and one for gaining privilege.<br>If you wager one die and get your 10 or better, you can say three things about the Count.<br>If you wager two dice and get your 10 or better, you can say four things about the Count.<br><br>And then repeat the process for his daughter.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkRose15</strong> on <strong>06-04-2012, 03:02:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'll do it before I go to bed tonight :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkRose15</strong> on <strong>06-04-2012, 07:42:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I asked Red to see if he could send you the info that I did for the wagers already but I got a 17 on 4 dice.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>06-04-2012, 16:31:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Are you referring to the original Wisdom risk?&nbsp; Or did you make others?&nbsp; If you are referring to the original Wisdom risk, about the lands, I already have those results included in my summary.<br><br>That's one Wisdom Risk, so you get to say two things about the neighboring Count.&nbsp; You will then need to make a second risk, concerning the Daughter.<br><br>When you make a risk, IF you get privilege (and if you get more than , you have privilege), please go ahead and state the results in that post along with your roll.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkRose15</strong> on <strong>07-04-2012, 04:20:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				This is where I'm honestly confused because I am pretty sure I did these rolls already. I'd stated the the daughter lived a lavish lifestyle at the expense of her people and I think I also said her father accommodated her. <br><br>I'll have to think on what else to add,&nbsp; I asked Red to send you the information that he and I had about it too.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>07-04-2012, 20:46:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That was the first Wisdom risk, which was for the neighboring lands...NOT for the two individuals.&nbsp; I have asked for two additional risks, one apiece for the other noble and his daughter.<br><br>Three risks in all.<br><br>You have done two, and stated your wagers for one of them.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkRose15</strong> on <strong>08-04-2012, 05:57:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I guess my 3 statements for the father will be that he:<br><br>Would like to get rid of his daughter via marriage so someone else can fund her lifestyle and allow him to try and revive his lands and pacify his daughter<br>He is a bit of a push over but he's not a moron, he keeps tabs so if an opportunity arises he can try and "deal" with her<br>And my freebie: He has a mistress.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>08-04-2012, 20:44:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				You get two statements for the father, not three: one freebie and one for the roll.&nbsp; Had you wagered one die, you would have three.&nbsp; (I know this can be confusing at first.)&nbsp; Also, you only get to say one thing per wager.&nbsp; <span class="bbc_u">One</span>.&nbsp; No conjunctions.&nbsp; No 'and', 'but', 'yet' and the like.&nbsp; There's an earlier post about this.&nbsp; (It IS kosher to refer to established details...)<br><br>Another problem is that you may not contradict what we have already established, and it has been established that the Daughter is the Heir Apparent for these lands.&nbsp; "Getting rid of her by marriage" might get in the way of that.<br><br>To repeat my summary, here is what we already know:<br><br><strong>What We Know About The Lands</strong><br>1.&nbsp; The area borders your Count's land.<br>...The neighboring noble is on the verge of Solace.<br>2.&nbsp; It contains something valuable.<br>...The land contains rare poisons<br>3.&nbsp; The peasants are disgruntled.<br>...because of cruel taxes used to fund the girl's lavish lifestyle.<br>...The land was once a thriving center of trade.<br><br>You may make two additional Wisdom risks to round out the following statements about the neighboring Count and his Daughter.&nbsp; Since, unfortunately, I have no idea what RD had in mind for any of this, I'm making it up off the top of my head.&nbsp; Hopefully he won't be too irked at me.&nbsp; &nbsp; Things we know because of the Lands are in italics.<br><br><strong>The Count</strong><br>1.&nbsp; He's Blooded of the Elk.<br>2.&nbsp; He is our liege's cordial enemy.<br>3.&nbsp; He desires to abdicate in his daughter's favor.<br><em>...and he's approaching Solace.</em><br>A. He once fought a duel with our liege.<br>D.<br>D.<br><br><br><strong>The Daughter</strong><br>1.&nbsp; She's Blooded of the Fox.<br>2.&nbsp; She is not yet married.<br>3.&nbsp; She is her father's only surviving child.<br><em>...and she's been overtaxing her lands<br>...to pay for her lavish lifestyle<br>...thus ruining a thriving center of trade</em><br>A. She wishes to marry someone of higher rank.<br>D.<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkRose15</strong> on <strong>08-04-2012, 21:03:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I do actually go back and read other posts but that doesn't mean it is any less confusing. I'm feeling like a bit of an idiot and I know that may not be what you intended but yeah.&nbsp; :(
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>08-04-2012, 21:20:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Two details, please...which do not contradict what we already know, and which do not run afoul of the 'no fanboy words' rule.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkRose15</strong> on <strong>08-04-2012, 21:23:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Mad have I done something wrong? I'm very new to this and I wasn't meaning to contradict anything I was just trying to be helpful and provide the information. I was tired after a long day last night and I didn't want to hold anyone up. I will ponder some other details and try to come up with better ones shortly.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MadPanda</strong> on <strong>08-04-2012, 21:28:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				In terms of the rules as written, yes, you have, in much the same way that someone making a skill check in the d20 PGL has just taken three Standard Actions in one round without an appropriate Feat (which, so far as I know, is not possible).<br><br>I know you are new to this.&nbsp; That's why I'm going over it with you.&nbsp; Once you get the hang of it, you should be fine.<br><br>You have the kernel of two good ideas, there.&nbsp; Just need to line it up.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [HotB] The Plotting Room! (OOC chat)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Montagne</strong> on <strong>10-04-2012, 17:09:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm going to close this thread, at the moment it only seems me, MP, DR &amp; Athos are still interested in the game, I took far too long setting this all up, and not enough time organizing my Players, and take responsibility for that. Perhaps a lesson if I ever plan on running it again. We've currently got Mad's Sith game, and now I've done the ground work I hope to run another Houses game in the summer with some of the lessons I've learned. <br><br>Sorry for all the time u spent on your characters, keep hold of them, and I'll give you a priority place when I open the game again.<br><br>Red.
			</dd>
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