[SBURB] Session Echo - OOC
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				Title: <strong>[SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Meliai</strong> on <strong>29-04-2012, 00:53:03</strong>
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				<div align="center">(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42499880/Elliquiy/Sburb/Sburb_Logo.png)</div><br>Here's the OOC thread, for all your chatter and plotting needs!<br><br>Important links and general information will be here when things get rolling...
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				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Meliai</strong> on <strong>29-04-2012, 00:54:03</strong>
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				Aaaaand this post will be for organizing the various IC threads and tracking each character's location.
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				Post by: <strong>Chrystal</strong> on <strong>29-04-2012, 01:10:44</strong>
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				First? Woot!<br><br>Sooo.... We all know each other on-line, but we've never actually met - a bit like reality, if you think about it?
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				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>who149</strong> on <strong>29-04-2012, 02:22:56</strong>
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				Yup. That's the premise. And it is when you think about it ;D<br><br>Its implied that we knew each other for a few years or so. Probably sent packages too each other on each other's Birthdays and what not. <br><br>I can't wait for this to start.&nbsp; I have a good feeling about this one. 
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				Post by: <strong>Revenent</strong> on <strong>29-04-2012, 05:07:23</strong>
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				Really looking forward to this myself, now.<br><br>I'm having a hard time deciding at this point whether to just go ahead and continue reading the comic, or let myself be surprised when stuff happens in the RP. I guess it's not going to be a moment-for-moment remake, right?
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				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Winds Of Lust</strong> on <strong>29-04-2012, 05:51:14</strong>
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				I'd seriously doubt it, or at least I hope not... personally speaking that's not what I would want out of this game. If I wanted to re-experience the comic I'd go re-read it.<br><br>But regardless I am interested to see where it will go, as logically speaking it wont take the same turns or face the same threats as in the comic. I am all to eager to get this party started. That and I'm just way to curious for what the GM has in mind for each of our characters roles.<br><br>
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				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>who149</strong> on <strong>29-04-2012, 06:47:55</strong>
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				Considering that each of us will have the different roles, different lands, and Different sprites, i'm sure everything will be more or less different. Plus, even if everything plays out in theory, It takes so little to break the game either in or against the players favor. <br><br>So, there is virtually no chance this will end up just like the comic. 
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				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>CarnivalOfTheGoat</strong> on <strong>29-04-2012, 07:47:29</strong>
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				The part that will be MOST similar will probably be the beginning, I imagine. The 'hey, check out the new game' phase. But everything PAST that first phase will be based on the character backgrounds and behavior, I imagine, as well as what actions we take during the first phase.<br><br>So that will be totally out of left field. Except for the 'basic structure'.
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				Post by: <strong>Chrystal</strong> on <strong>29-04-2012, 10:37:58</strong>
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				I have so many other webcomics that I read that I really haven't the time to add another of such mammoth proportions.<br><br>Hence my rather tentative approach... However, now I'm in, I'm in!<br><br>And who would have thought that chocolate is an internet colour? *giggles*<br><br>So. Phine fancies lily, but whether her interest is returned or not is probably something that can be developed in the story... If we get any more female characters/players, Josephine may be tempted to switch her affections, but for the moment, I think it would be entertaining to play her as someone I would hate to be and the sort of person I hate to have around&nbsp; - The clingy sub!<br><br>Of course if Carny doesn't like that, I will have a re-think.
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				Post by: <strong>Winds Of Lust</strong> on <strong>30-04-2012, 06:15:20</strong>
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				I noticed that at the moment were not only an uneven number of sexes; I have an idea for a female character if the GM and everyone is fine with me doubling up/playing a female.<br><br>Just thought I'd throw that out there.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>who149</strong> on <strong>30-04-2012, 06:17:27</strong>
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				it probably would be best if we have at least one more character to make it even. The Session's seem to like even numbers actually. <br><br>And I'd be fine with it personally.
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				Post by: <strong>Revenent</strong> on <strong>30-04-2012, 06:20:19</strong>
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				I believe Toughie is still planning on making a character, so I would hold off on that unless he says he's not going to join after all.
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				Post by: <strong>Winds Of Lust</strong> on <strong>30-04-2012, 06:48:27</strong>
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				Good call there, I'll toy around with the profile so it won't take me to long to put together a full one if need be, but I won't be wasting time and energy if I am not needed.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Meliai</strong> on <strong>30-04-2012, 09:28:01</strong>
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				Yup, looks like Toughie's going with a female character so that evens us up (well technically [RR] is also female, but she's essentially an NPC). <br><br>I'm not worrying much about gender balance or maintaining an even number though; to make it easier to add in new players later if we lose some the exact number of people in the player chain is going to be left vague, so just assume there's an undefined number of other players operating on their own in the background that give us an even balance.<br><br>For now I'd prefer people stick with a single PC due to the large amount of setting and quest stuff I have to make for each, but if someone wants to run an important Prospitian or Dersite as a second character once the PCs are rolling that's more than fine.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chrystal</strong> on <strong>30-04-2012, 10:42:18</strong>
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				An important...... ?? OOOhkay, I'm guessing those are "need to know" terms, that I don't need to know just yet, so I'm not going to worry about them.<br><br>Oh and I should probably point out that, being gay, I actually count as male if you are counting M/F balance...<br><br>This is something a lot of newer GMs (Not meaning you, Mel) fail to take into account. You get a gay male or gay female in your mix and it totally upsets the careful balance you set up when approving characters! Worse, if everyone else is straight,&nbsp; that person is then left with no partner. Doesn't happen often, but it does happen!<br><br>So, yeah... *climbs off the soapbox* Sorry, comes of belonging to a "persecuted minority".
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				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Meliai</strong> on <strong>30-04-2012, 11:55:47</strong>
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				Oh don't worry, the gender balance thing is an actual component of SBURB itself, not a pairing issue. The five sets of players we've seen in the comic have had an equal distribution of ladies and fellas regardless of said ladies' and fellas' sexual preferences. Since romance and sex aren't meant to be a focus of the game I'm hoping the experience won't be ruined for anyone if their PC doesn't find their One True Love or whatnot over the course of the game.
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				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chrystal</strong> on <strong>30-04-2012, 12:19:43</strong>
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				Oh, I'm not in it for the sex, I'm here to see what the <em>French Connection United Kingdom</em> is going to happen...
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				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>CarnivalOfTheGoat</strong> on <strong>30-04-2012, 12:29:06</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=138642.msg6205810#msg6205810">Quote from: Chrystal on 29-04-2012, 10:37:58</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Phine fancies lily, but whether her interest is returned or not is probably something that can be developed in the story... If we get any more female characters/players, Josephine may be tempted to switch her affections, but for the moment, I think it would be entertaining to play her as someone I would hate to be and the sort of person I hate to have around&nbsp; - The clingy sub!<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=138642.msg6211472#msg6211472">Quote from: Chrystal on 30-04-2012, 10:42:18</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Oh and I should probably point out that, being gay, I actually count as male if you are counting M/F balance...<br><br>This is something a lot of newer GMs (Not meaning you, Mel) fail to take into account. You get a gay male or gay female in your mix and it totally upsets the careful balance you set up when approving characters! Worse, if everyone else is straight,&nbsp; that person is then left with no partner. Doesn't happen often, but it does happen!<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>It is a thing that bears considering!<br><br>Given Lily's overall theatrical attitudes, she's probably a bit of a tease and more than a little evasive online. The girl does like her masks. <br><br>But there's a distinct difference between evasion and teasing and <em>discouragement</em>. Given the likely circumstances, much will likely depend on just <em>how</em> they meet. And the odds are that only one person in this game will have a <em>great deal</em> of "free" time. ;)<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=138642.msg6211329#msg6211329">Quote from: Meliai on 30-04-2012, 09:28:01</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">For now I'd prefer people stick with a single PC due to the large amount of setting and quest stuff I have to make for each, but if someone wants to run an important Prospitian or Dersite as a second character once the PCs are rolling that's more than fine.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Whoa, I didn't figure P/D characters would even be a viable option. Interesting.<br><br>And don't worry, Chrystal. Wicked and evil as it may seem to say it yet again: you'll be surprised by that when you discover it in the game. ;)
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				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>who149</strong> on <strong>30-04-2012, 16:03:53</strong>
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				If everything goes how I hope it does, I'm sure it goes without saying that this is going to be one LONG RP (though, the number of pages from the Source Comic should have at least gave a hint to that), and I am excited. <br><br>I have no Idea when this will Officially start, but Good luck everyone anyway. 
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				Post by: <strong>Revenent</strong> on <strong>30-04-2012, 16:28:50</strong>
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				Since it looks like everyone except Phine is either bi or bicurious, I wouldn't worry too much about anyone getting left out if the romance plays a minor role.<br><br>But don't worry, Chrystal, I have absolutely no idea what those words mean, either. ;)
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				Post by: <strong>Chrystal</strong> on <strong>30-04-2012, 16:36:09</strong>
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				Yeah, odd that I'm not even curious about hetero sex...
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				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>CarnivalOfTheGoat</strong> on <strong>01-05-2012, 02:59:40</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=138642.msg6211998#msg6211998">Quote from: Chrystal on 30-04-2012, 16:36:09</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Yeah, odd that I'm not even curious about hetero sex...<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Aieeeee, my sardonicism gauge has already had to be overhauled twice this month...<br><br>;)
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				Post by: <strong>Revenent</strong> on <strong>01-05-2012, 20:32:55</strong>
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				At the end of Act 3. I'm probably going to read this whole thing before we even get anyone past the first phase. ::)
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				Post by: <strong>who149</strong> on <strong>01-05-2012, 20:59:42</strong>
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				Probably. Though, the acts get longer as you go. <br><br>
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				Post by: <strong>Winds Of Lust</strong> on <strong>01-05-2012, 21:21:12</strong>
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				Despite it's great length and massive word count it's actually a rather quick read though the intermission after act 3 did give me quite the slow down, as it does to most so I hear.
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				Post by: <strong>CarnivalOfTheGoat</strong> on <strong>02-05-2012, 01:49:09</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=138642.msg6217677#msg6217677">Quote from: Revenent on 01-05-2012, 20:32:55</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">At the end of Act 3. I'm probably going to read this whole thing before we even get anyone past the first phase. ::)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>It definitely gets longer. And more twisty. I think Act 5 has an Act 5, Act 1 and Act 5, Act 2. Which I found amusing.<br><br>Also, the end of Act 5 is just...Yeah. Started as stick figures (sort of?) with simple backgrounds and clipart, and then someone started pumping epic into it. By the time you get to the end animation for Act 5 it is pretty darned spectacular.
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				Post by: <strong>Revenent</strong> on <strong>02-05-2012, 02:02:52</strong>
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				I already thought the ending animations of Acts 1, 2, and 3 were pretty darned epic...
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				Post by: <strong>Winds Of Lust</strong> on <strong>02-05-2012, 02:25:41</strong>
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				You mind will be so blown by the end of act 5. A friend showed me that video when it first came out and that's when I started reading.
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				Post by: <strong>who149</strong> on <strong>02-05-2012, 03:04:17</strong>
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				I got in after my friend checked a late Act 5 animation on my computer. <br><br>He talked about it for long periods of time before that, but I couldn't even begin to imagine exactly what he was talking about. He TECHNICALLY spoiled the entire series, but luckily I didn't understand any of it at the time&nbsp; ;D
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				Post by: <strong>Winds Of Lust</strong> on <strong>02-05-2012, 03:10:55</strong>
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				So i guess you could say you let him tell you about homestuck<br><br>8-)
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				Post by: <strong>Revenent</strong> on <strong>02-05-2012, 21:02:57</strong>
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				Wow, the comic really slows you down in Act 4, huh? I finally managed to get through the segment where pretty much every page comes with 50 lines of IM chat between characters, and now I'm reading the incredibly long year one recap that I'm afraid to skip since it's telling me things I didn't know I was supposed to have picked up on already.
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				Post by: <strong>Chrystal</strong> on <strong>02-05-2012, 21:26:42</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=138642.msg6222694#msg6222694">Quote from: Revenent on 02-05-2012, 21:02:57</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Wow, the comic really slows you down in Act 4, huh? I finally managed to get through the segment where pretty much every page comes with 50 lines of IM chat between characters, and now I'm reading the incredibly long year one recap that I'm afraid to skip since it's telling me things I didn't know I was supposed to have picked up on already.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Wow. Way to put a girl off! *giggles*
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				Post by: <strong>Winds Of Lust</strong> on <strong>02-05-2012, 23:23:21</strong>
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				Yeah, four can do that to you, my second speed bump : / I like those characters and all a lot but I find the first 4 much more interesting, though things start weaving together in act 5 quite amazingly, keep at it!
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				Post by: <strong>Revenent</strong> on <strong>03-05-2012, 02:00:51</strong>
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				I really hope so. I think I'm coming up on 2000 pages in now, and I swear he's done nothing but continue to add more mysterious details and unanswered questions since the beginning of Act 2...<br><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Spoiler: Click to Show/Hide</div><div class="spoiler_body">I'm at the part where John has made paradox clones of the characters and their guardians, and I still don't even understand whether the game is creating alternate realities (i.e. it creates Prospit and Derse for each new session) or if it's just accommodating them (it was made to facilitate the war between the planets in each timeline).</div></div>
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				Post by: <strong>CarnivalOfTheGoat</strong> on <strong>03-05-2012, 07:19:12</strong>
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				I think the big thing about Act 4 was that it's sort of trying to revisit a big chunk of 'how things work' via a secondary set of characters, so not only is there a lot of 'haven't we seen this before?' but also a lot of exposition and guesswork and character interaction. I believe the writer actually mocks Act 4's reliance on exposition and reprise via self-insert later. <br><br>It is sort of an experimental digital text that he's writing, after all.<br><br>Act V, by contrast, felt like pure gold. Pure, nasty, bloody, intensely conflicted and ruthless gold laced with lots of 'oh shit' moments.
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				Post by: <strong>Revenent</strong> on <strong>03-05-2012, 07:25:37</strong>
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				All I know is, the recap midway (or less) through Act 4 was very long, as it covered a whole year of material. The recap at the end of Act 4, less than 90 days after the previous one, was just as long (or close to it) and a big chunk of it was just going over what happened in the ending film for Act 4.<br><br>If Meliai manages to make this RP even one-tenth as convoluted with her own plot details, I'll be very impressed.
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				Post by: <strong>Winds Of Lust</strong> on <strong>03-05-2012, 07:45:40</strong>
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				Personally I never read the recaps, but I have a crazy memory for details and such. I always treated 4 as an interesting character study and world building experiment, as It is certainly unlike any&nbsp; race of creatures I've seen before. <br><br>I feel like trying to think to much about the details Revenent. The game takes place in "paradox Space" meaning there is a lot that simple won't be understood because it works on a leave beyond understanding. I know that feels like a coup out, but if you stress out looking for answered as to how the game works I think you'll be disappointed, since answering these questions really isn't what the comic is about. It's a lot more about these character thrust into something to large to comprehend and trying to there damnedest not to die.<br><br>But meh, that's just my view on the comic.
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				Post by: <strong>Revenent</strong> on <strong>03-05-2012, 07:52:45</strong>
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				Er, I don't know about that. It's not really that hard to understand once you've read the recaps and were reminded about the minor details you didn't notice or pay much importance to. I don't think he would bother writing in all these details if you were just supposed to ignore them.<br><br>Really, the one thing I don't understand at this point is...<br><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Spoiler: Click to Show/Hide</div><div class="spoiler_body">Who the hell are the Felt? I know Spades, Clubs, Hearts, Diamonds, and Snoman are the exiled Dersites on the Trolls' old homeworld, but I don't remember ever seeing a bunch of green guys walking around before.<br><br>I'm sure this'll probably come up at some point, though, since Meliai mentioned Lord English in the interest thread.</div></div>
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				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Meliai</strong> on <strong>03-05-2012, 08:42:41</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Spoiler: Click to Show/Hide</div><div class="spoiler_body">The mention of Lord English in the interest thread actually specifically stated that he won't be poking his horrible, horrible head into this session :P<br><br>As for the Felt, beyond them working for Scratch and LE we STILL don't really know who/what they are. There was a small scene in Act 5 that lent a little bit of credence to a harebrained theory I've been nursing since Act 4 but it's still all wild mass guessing at this point.</div></div><br>We should be getting started within a couple days. If you guys want to start working out who'll be whose server or client that would be great. It would also be super helpful if we could get players who've read the comic acting as servers for the two(?) who haven't, so the servers can help me guide their characters along the right path with less Woah Hey Lets Shove Some Awkward Exposition In Your Face.<br><br>We'll likely have 3 characters acting as Client to start, with the other 3 acting as their servers. Once the first three are in the next three will go, and I'll toss in RR or an NPC Player to act as whoever's on the end of the chian's server.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Revenent</strong> on <strong>03-05-2012, 08:48:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Spoiler: Click to Show/Hide</div><div class="spoiler_body">I know, and I didn't say anything about him being in this RP, after all. I was just saying the fact that you mentioned him probably meant he would play a role on-screen at some point in the remainder of the webcomic I have to read, that's all.</div></div><br>Anyway, I'd be happy to go in as a server for the first round as you want, but do we need RR or an NPC to step in as someone's server? That just means someone gets left out of trying the server end of things, which they wouldn't if we just did the cyclical thing of player 1 acting as player 6's server.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Meliai</strong> on <strong>03-05-2012, 08:57:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well since not all the Players are PCs we HAVE to have one NPC server and one NPC client to connect the PC's chunk of the chain to the rest of the Players.<br><br>This is probably going to horribly confuse the folks who haven't read the comic, sorry! Part of what I'm working on is a silly diagram thing RR is drawing for the other Players and that should clear things up.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>CarnivalOfTheGoat</strong> on <strong>03-05-2012, 10:00:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Lily will volunteer to be Phine's server. :) ;D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>who149</strong> on <strong>03-05-2012, 15:46:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Jack will be a server. Forewarning, he takes his gaming rather seriously. <br><br><del>Also, I don't think you need an NPC to complete the chain,&nbsp; I just drew up (A rather terrible looking) Diagram showing it would be very unnecessary, and even derailing a bit. </del><br><br>EDIT: Right, forgot we were gonna have one NPC anyway.. So yeah..&nbsp; Well, This chart is still good for showing the process I guess~ Just pretend there are 2 more bubbles. <br><br>(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f387/who149/Diagram.png)<br><br>Made a small error as I put Phine as the Server instead of Lily. <br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Revenent</strong> on <strong>03-05-2012, 15:48:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ah, yeah, that makes sense.<br><br>Although now that makes me wonder about the client NPC, since whoever player 1 is will pretty much be stuck interacting with that NPC for the rest of the game, unless you find some workaround for that.<br><br>And that's what I was saying, Who, but if it's not <em>only</em> our six characters that are in on this session, so a six-person cycle wouldn't work. At least RR has to be in on it, if nothing else.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>who149</strong> on <strong>03-05-2012, 15:55:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Alright, I forgot about RR truthfully~~ <br><br>Anyway, Another NPC will probably be best then. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Winds Of Lust</strong> on <strong>03-05-2012, 17:49:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I will gladly be where I am needed most, so put me anywhere.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chrystal</strong> on <strong>03-05-2012, 19:55:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Uh Who, you have my character down as a server, but I'm one of those weird folk who hasn't read the comic and will thus be a client.<br><br>Okay, I pretty much get the client-server thing, having an IT background. Server holds all the databases and the information, client in the user interface. How that translates here, I have some random thoughts about, aside from the obvious D/s thing, but they are not really solid enough to put into words.<br><br>And While I gladly accept Lilly as my server in that direction, it will be interesting to see what the relationship is in the other direction.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Revenent</strong> on <strong>03-05-2012, 19:57:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=138642.msg6226716#msg6226716">Quote from: Chrystal on 03-05-2012, 19:55:09</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Uh Who, you have my character down as a server, but I'm one of those weird folk who hasn't read the comic and will thus be a client.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=138642.msg6225878#msg6225878">Quote from: who149 on 03-05-2012, 15:46:22</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Made a small error as I put Phine as the Server instead of Lily. <br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chrystal</strong> on <strong>03-05-2012, 20:30:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oops, didn't see that. *facepalm*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Revenent</strong> on <strong>03-05-2012, 20:41:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That's alright. ;) I don't think it's going to matter much in the long run, anyway. Everyone's going to be both a client and a server at one point, and we'll also eventually have to decide which of the round one clients will be playing round two servers to which of the round one servers, if that made any sense. <br><br>Basically, though, imagine the Server as a person playing the Sims (they can modify things within the environment or build stuff, but they can't directly interact with anything besides deciding where it should go) and the Client as the Sim itself, able to interact with machinery and stuff, but they can't build things or change the environment. So Lily can buy and put down an Alchemiter (you'll see) somewhere in Phine's house, but only Phine can actually use the device.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chrystal</strong> on <strong>03-05-2012, 20:59:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Gotcha. That is pretty much what I was thinking, but wasn't sure of the exact mechanic. Yep, makes purrrrrfect sense =^.^=
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>SargentToughie</strong> on <strong>04-05-2012, 01:58:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh hey, look, there's an OOC that exists, I missed that.<br><br>Hi guys.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Revenent</strong> on <strong>04-05-2012, 05:28:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Any of our remaining fellows decided who they want to be paired up with for the first round, or do I have to flip a coin?<br><br>EDIT: Actually, just to get us going faster, I'll send Marty in as Austin's server, if that works for Winds.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Winds Of Lust</strong> on <strong>04-05-2012, 06:06:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Works for me
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>SargentToughie</strong> on <strong>04-05-2012, 06:32:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'll just have Annie go with who ever, since I don't really know enough about the situation/other characters to form an opinion yet.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>who149</strong> on <strong>04-05-2012, 08:23:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, by the looks of it, Annie is going with Jack.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Revenent</strong> on <strong>04-05-2012, 15:44:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Now we just have to figure out how the round two organization is going to work.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chrystal</strong> on <strong>04-05-2012, 19:42:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Can we do that while round one is in progress or do we have to have it all planned out?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Revenent</strong> on <strong>04-05-2012, 19:56:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				No, it can wait until we get to round two, I think. Mel said we probably aren't going to go the comic route where every character has some sort of difficult acquiring their copy of the Server Beta, which would lead to urgency on whoever's waiting for that particular Server, so it should be good.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Revenent</strong> on <strong>06-05-2012, 02:44:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Huh, something I just picked up on.<br><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Spoiler: Click to Show/Hide</div><div class="spoiler_body">Spades Slick loses an eye and an arm to Snowman. The 3x Prototyped Sovereign Slayer starts off missing an arm and an eye, thanks to the harlequin prototyping. Is there some programmed inevitability that Jack Noir has to lose an eye and an arm in every game session, or is that something that comes up later? Or is it just a hidden, unimportant detail?</div></div>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>CarnivalOfTheGoat</strong> on <strong>09-05-2012, 01:36:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				This is just a quick little ping. Life grabbed you away, Meliai?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Meliai</strong> on <strong>09-05-2012, 03:00:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Nope, still chugging along! I'm just working on some pictures to sort of set the scene for the first post, and as usual have underestimated how long it takes me to draw things.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Revenent</strong> on <strong>09-05-2012, 03:26:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Any thoughts on what I was talking to you about earlier, Mel, regarding the MDRA scenario to simplify the client loop and minimize how much interaction was necessary with the NPC players? I never got a reply to my last PM, so I wasn't too sure what your thoughts were.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Meliai</strong> on <strong>09-05-2012, 04:47:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh sorry, I opened that when I was half-asleep last night and then had forgotten it by morning. I do that sometimes, if it's ever been more than a day since you(anyone I mean, not just Reverent) PMed me and haven't gotten a response don't hesitate to poke me about it.<br><br>I appreciate the effort but I reeeeaally don't think having the back-up players in a separate chain would simplify things. It would kind of do the exact opposite in fact.<br><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Spoiler: Click to Show/Hide</div><div class="spoiler_body">The only characters that can possibly be in a given session are the ones who were created through ectobiology in that session. After Entering in the first place, surviving long enough to figure out and implement the ecto-bio-baby-making is the second big hurdle players have to overcome, and in one of Karkat's conversations with John he flat-out states that that's what most of the puzzles and stuff are leading the players to figure out.<br><br>The Guardians in John/Rose/Dave/Jade's session had to lead John to the machines and set everything up for him because he didn't have time to solve the puzzles (because of Jack started the reckoning WAY earlier than usual.) In a session that isn't massively broken that's something the players have to figure themselves out.<br><br>If the possibility of your character's chain link being in line after or before an NPC's is bothering you we can just make sure you're in the middle of the current chunk of PCs.</div></div><br>Just for reference, is there anyone who's starting off as a Client who'd be okay with their character being the server for an NPC, and anyone starting off as a Server who'd be okay with being RR's or another NPC's client?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Revenent</strong> on <strong>09-05-2012, 04:59:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Spoiler: Click to Show/Hide</div><div class="spoiler_body">Ah, alright, forgot that, though I still don't see it as that much of an issue with the double loop system. Whether it's one loop or two, the NPCs will still be there, they'll still have to be ecto-born, and they'll still have Lands for the rest of the group to wander. I was just suggesting it as a simple means to lower interaction with them just a tiny bit more, since pretty much everything about the session will be exactly the same either way, aside from who connects to who.</div></div><br>I just figured we'd want to limit the interaction, since obviously we wouldn't want to put in details on a character whose slot someone is supposed to (possibly) fill later. Not a huge issue, though.<br><br>And I wouldn't have a problem making Marty RR's or whoever's client, since it wasn't so much about that as the reason stated above. I'll wait to see what anyone else has to say, though.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>who149</strong> on <strong>09-05-2012, 17:09:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I wouldn't mind being the Server for a NPC I guess. And this is started to sound really good.<br><br>I have to admire all the work your putting in this, this is a complicated game&nbsp; ;D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Revenent</strong> on <strong>09-05-2012, 17:26:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I don't think that would really work, unless you make Jack a round one client instead of a server. I don't think RR and the other NPC can come in until the second round. <br><br>But keep in mind this is all the <em>easy</em> part. Mel still has to decide all the Lands, Titles, Denizens, Consorts, Exiles, quests, and dream locations, if she takes control of all that. That much work definitely deserves some appreciation. :-)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chrystal</strong> on <strong>09-05-2012, 23:05:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I would offer to be a server for an NPC, but that's probably not such a good idea as I'm in this for the fun of the surprise as much as anything, and I would have no idea what I was doing. Of course if the general idea is to have a server who hasn't got a clue (other than what happened to her as a client last time around) then I'm your gal.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>CarnivalOfTheGoat</strong> on <strong>12-05-2012, 02:32:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				How're things progressing, Meliai?<br><br>I hadn't realized you intended to do art. :) I imagine that will be an 'occasional' thing, or posts will take a while...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Revenent</strong> on <strong>12-05-2012, 04:02:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Can we at least expect a character thread soon? I had some revisions I was thinking about making, but I wanted to wait until I had easier access to the sheet I posted up.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Meliai</strong> on <strong>12-05-2012, 06:56:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=138642.msg6263713#msg6263713">Quote from: CarnivalOfTheGoat on 12-05-2012, 02:32:50</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">How're things progressing, Meliai?<br><br>I hadn't realized you intended to do art. :) I imagine that will be an 'occasional' thing, or posts will take a while...<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Oh gosh yeah. Down the line I'm hoping to have an opening image for each planet, and maybe one each time someone hits a big milestone so after the first post they'll be one at a time, spread apart, and I'll be able to work on stuff in advance so there won't be a wait on you folks' end. I don't have much going on this weekend so hopefully I'll be able to wrap things up in the next couple days.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=138642.msg6264074#msg6264074">Quote from: Revenent on 12-05-2012, 04:02:48</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Can we at least expect a character thread soon? I had some revisions I was thinking about making, but I wanted to wait until I had easier access to the sheet I posted up.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I'd planned on putting character sheets on the wiki, but if people would prefer a thread that's fine with me&nbsp; :-)<br><br>In the meantime, this thread is for any general game related stuff though so you can post anything you need here while you're working on it.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>SargentToughie</strong> on <strong>12-05-2012, 07:20:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				You better be careful of lazy people if you decide to do a wiki, Mel. We've had issues with them in the past. <br><br>Rev will know what I'm talking about.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Revenent</strong> on <strong>12-05-2012, 07:30:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				It was a disaster. But from what I've seen, I think the people in this group can handle the mental stress and toil of having to click a link, and possibly having more than one tab or window open at once.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>SargentToughie</strong> on <strong>12-05-2012, 07:31:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Obviously, none of them have jobs if that's the case. They're all just computer nerds.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Revenent</strong> on <strong>12-05-2012, 07:50:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah, no one with real life commitments could possibly master the "coding" of hitting the edit button and changing information.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chrystal</strong> on <strong>12-05-2012, 21:59:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Heh... <br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote from: Steve Martin as C.D. Bales in the film 'Roxanne'</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Oh, ho, ho, irony! Oh, no, no, we don't get that here. See, uh, people ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony's not really a, a high priority. We haven't had any irony here since about, uh, '83, when I was the only practitioner of it. And I stopped because I was tired of being stared at. <br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Revenent</strong> on <strong>16-05-2012, 01:07:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, it's been a few days. Progress update? I'm not too worried if we have to wait to get started, but I'm curious to hear how everything's coming along with the images.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Meliai</strong> on <strong>19-05-2012, 07:59:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hey guys, sorry to report I've got some bad news in regards to the RP. I just got assigned as the head of my first big project at work, so over the past week my free time has plummeted and stress level has skyrocketed and I don't think I'm going to have the time or wits to run this game any time soon. I'm really, <em>really</em> sorry to have to bail and I feel extra awful considering how amazingly patient you folks have been:(
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>who149</strong> on <strong>19-05-2012, 15:12:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Its alright. we all have those work projects, family situations, or just general real life stuff we can't avoid. <br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Revenent</strong> on <strong>20-05-2012, 01:05:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry to hear that, but I understand. Life can be a pain sometimes.<br><br>If you ever do get more time for yourself and want to try a Homestuck RP, though, let me know. :) The comic is amazing, even it's ground to a dead stop for me now.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>CarnivalOfTheGoat</strong> on <strong>22-05-2012, 02:51:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Congratulations on the new responsibilities? :)<br><br>Well, on the off-hand chance that you end up having that kind of free time again at some future date, you know who to call!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: [SBURB] Session Echo - OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Revenent</strong> on <strong>22-05-2012, 04:29:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Might as well ask for the hell of it: anyone else think they'd be up for the massive effort of running this game? Maybe Mel would even still be up for it if she didn't have to be the one organizing everything.
			</dd>
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