Contact: OOC and Game Discussion
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				Title: <strong>Contact: OOC and Game Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>RegularRaskolnikov</strong> on <strong>18-11-2009, 18:11:26</strong>
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				Hopefully this isn't a superfluous thread. Here is where we can keep talking with each other and continue tweaking the game system or any little details that we want while we're playing. <br><br>...<br><br>You know what? You all know what an OOC thread is. I won't insult you. 
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				Post by: <strong>DeviantMunster</strong> on <strong>19-11-2009, 02:29:53</strong>
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				First! Currently making my race. Probably will have something up by tonight, though expect the individual unit information to be lacking at first.
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				Post by: <strong>RegularRaskolnikov</strong> on <strong>19-11-2009, 18:37:58</strong>
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				I don't blame you. That takes FOREVER!
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				Post by: <strong>DeviantMunster</strong> on <strong>19-11-2009, 18:53:45</strong>
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				It's taking forever! I mean, wow... so much stuff that needs to be detailed. This time I -will- have it up by tonight.<br><br>Edit: Posted it finally. Let me know if anything is amiss please! Also added some picks... will get to the rest later.
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				Post by: <strong>Ebb</strong> on <strong>19-11-2009, 21:08:19</strong>
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				Out of curiosity, how important do you think it is to describe the military at the level of detail given in the template? Do you believe that descriptions for all of the different kinds of ships will be necessary in the game? It's the part I'm having the hardest time with, so I'm wondering if I can just put it off indefinitely.
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				Post by: <strong>Ebb</strong> on <strong>19-11-2009, 21:15:05</strong>
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				Separate comment / suggestion:<br><br>After everyone gets their races up (or once we have enough to get rolling, anyway), I'd propose that every player fill out a sheet that describes relations between their race and each of the others. These can be worked out pairwise through PMs, or out in the open. Just so when we start we're not all working in isolation.<br><br>For example, I can immediately see that my race, the Glorbush, and DeviantMunster's (really interesting!) race, the Fel'ryn will probably have butted heads over trade routes and other issues. Has it come to blows already? Are they on the brink of war? Or have they worked out some sort of compromise (and if so, how well is it holding up)? If we have had military engagements, who came out on top, what was the name of their last battle, etc.<br><br>That sort of thing. I'm looking to be able to start with things like the rich background between the Narn and the Centauri in Babylon5, where the history really informed events once the cameras started rolling.<br><br>
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				Post by: <strong>DeviantMunster</strong> on <strong>19-11-2009, 21:24:28</strong>
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				Hmm, good question! And thankies for the compliment. *ponders* Well, I -do- see some issues occurring between the two races, especially since the Glorbush appear to be alot better at trading than the Fel'ryn. I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of assassinations would've occurred if the Glorbush were invading and taking over trade routes. On the other hand, I can also see them as providing a great deal of food for the planets the Fel'ryn already consumed the resources of.<br><br>As for the Ekke, they probably have very different and conflicting philosophies, though they would grudgingly respect them, especially in regards to the medical advances the Ekke made. Beyond that though, it's up to the leader!<br><br>Edit: GreenHavok, you only need loyalty 1. Is has an asterik, meaning you can only take it once. Use three of those points for other things!
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				Post by: <strong>GreenHavok</strong> on <strong>19-11-2009, 22:52:25</strong>
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				Thanks for the catch on that, updated
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				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>20-11-2009, 05:55:07</strong>
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				Phew!&nbsp; That took awhile to put together.&nbsp; I've added my civilization into the fray.&nbsp; It's a bit...unorthodox, to say the least.
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				Post by: <strong>Sydonai</strong> on <strong>20-11-2009, 06:05:46</strong>
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				alright! just one last part to go, the navy....<br><br>this is gonna take some time.... :P
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				Post by: <strong>DeviantMunster</strong> on <strong>20-11-2009, 07:22:36</strong>
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				Small question. Is it official that people are ignoring the "Cyberize!" trait, going from Space Marines to Tough as Nails? Because if so, I'd like to remove it myself!
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				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>20-11-2009, 16:19:05</strong>
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				The way I read it, it wasn't specifying that you had to take both in order to check Tough as Nails, but that it was offering both a biological and technological route for achieving the same end.&nbsp; 
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				Post by: <strong>RegularRaskolnikov</strong> on <strong>20-11-2009, 18:46:36</strong>
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				Whew! Alright, I think that the idea of posting everyone's relations to each other would be a good idea. <br><br>Also: The game is being held only 20 years after the formation of the council. So everyone is still figuring out exactly how things are going. Still, some background information might be good to know. <br><br>For instance, it's plausible that the Ekke offended Shihong's race when they attempted to study the Ultothar. I think that we can decide all of that right here in the OOC. <br><br>Also, I should warn everyone that I'm going to be missing for a few weeks starting on Monday. I should mention right now that I'm in the military, so every now and then I've got to go and be Uncle Sam's Bitch for a little while. 
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				Post by: <strong>Sydonai</strong> on <strong>21-11-2009, 09:05:43</strong>
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				so would this game be put on hold until you get back?
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				Post by: <strong>RegularRaskolnikov</strong> on <strong>21-11-2009, 18:33:10</strong>
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				Psh! No. That wouldn't be fair at all. Besides, the game would probably sink into obscurity if that happened. 
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				Post by: <strong>RubySlippers</strong> on <strong>21-11-2009, 23:00:30</strong>
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				Hello, Terrans are up. 
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				Post by: <strong>DeviantMunster</strong> on <strong>22-11-2009, 01:02:16</strong>
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				Terrans look interesting! With KGB and the Space Trenches, I can imagine it'd be nigh impossible to attack.
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				Post by: <strong>ChaoticSky</strong> on <strong>22-11-2009, 16:42:23</strong>
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				okie dokie, is that 'Contact' thread is the IC? or are you gonna make a IC before you leave Reg?<br><br>ill edit my race later to include its relations to others. Though thatll change over the RP, possibly. ^^
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				Post by: <strong>RegularRaskolnikov</strong> on <strong>23-11-2009, 17:12:04</strong>
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				Yeah, that big ol' empty thread is the actual game. I'm leaving later today, but I'm going to at least try to post something. <br><br>Also, I'ma go look at Terrans. 
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				Post by: <strong>RegularRaskolnikov</strong> on <strong>23-11-2009, 17:45:20</strong>
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				I'm also posting the diplomatic relations that the Ekke share with everyone else. If someone disagrees about how my race reacts to yours then just tell me. <br><br>I tried to stay vague. I'm not proclaiming myself at war with anyone or anything like that. <br><br>Crys:The Ekke are fascinated by the Crys on a scientific level and see them as a powerful ally to the galaxy with their clever economics. <br><br>Ilkyans: The Ekke have a grudging respect for the Ilk information machine, and while they're slightly competitive, this hasn't led to any real diplomatic issues. Apart from them trying to learn more than the Ilk, of course. <br><br>Glorbush: Although slightly wary and alarmed at the rate at which the Glorbush civilization is growing, the Ekke want to be on good terms early on. There are far more potent threats than the Glorbush, after all. <br><br>Fel'Ryn: The Ekke being somewhat passionate creatures, often fall prey to the temptations that Fel'Ryn cities offer. Ekke have a morbid curiosity and fascination with them. They see them as a potential threat, but they give Ekke society somewhat of an outlet. Other Ekke believe that the Fly'Ryn are corrupting Ekke society. <br><br>Angauri: Ekke have a profound respect for one on one combat. It makes more sense than a costly war, anyway. Moreover, Ekke warriors often like to test their mettle against the Angauri (often fatally). <br><br>Phyrexians: Phyrexians are not to be trusted. Their military should be limited and their motives should be weeded out quickly. Their activities should be watched. CLOSELY.&nbsp; The loss of the Phyrexians is acceptable in lieu of the entire galaxy.<br><br>Ultothara: Obviously, the Ultothar make the Ekke nervous. The Ekke want to establish relations with them quickly to learn what they are doing and how they can possibly deal with such a race before it wants to consume everything. Also, the Ekke are fascinated and want to study the Ultothara more than any other race. They're a fascinating biological marvel, after all. <br><br><br>
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				Post by: <strong>Sydonai</strong> on <strong>24-11-2009, 01:38:24</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Phyrexians: Phyrexians are not to be trusted. Their military should be limited and their motives should be weeded out quickly. Their activities should be watched. CLOSELY.&nbsp; The loss of the Phyrexians is acceptable in lieu of the entire galaxy.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>lol noooo!! I'll be the enemy of the ekke ;D<br><br>now then, the Phyrexians Diplomatic Relations:<br><br>Ekke: Most of the time ignored, although to the Phyrexians, the Ekke maintains a respectable military force and fleets they arrogantly claims that the Ekke is insignificant to them, however, recent outcry of the Ekke calling for a curb on Phyrexians military has made the Imperial Phyrexia wary of them.<br><br>Crys: To the Phyrexian Empire, they view the Crys as nothing more than a resource they can used to further expand their empire as well as their military might. The Crys home system can provide for the entire grand Phrexian Armada for hundreds of years to come, though they haven't stated their opinion publicly, the Phyrexians have indeed set their eyes upon the Crys.<br><br>Ilkyans: Like the Crys, the Phyrexian Empire only sees an opportunity here, while the Ilkyans has less tangible things to offer, they more than make up for it in their knowledge, specifically their 'Great Library/ Archive', the emperor(Shadow lords) has secretly been sending in some of his most resourceful spies and agents over to the Ilkyans in a hope to somehow infiltrate their great archive and steal as much of their knowledge and information as they can.<br><br>Glorbush: The Phyrexians largely ignore the Glorbush, while possessing the highest number of systems of all the known civilizations, they mostly occupies smaller system. Agents of the Phyrexians Empire spotted no opportunity with the Glorbush and coupled with their strong distrusts amongst themselves, the Imperial Phyrexia views the Glorbush as neither a threat nor a potential ally.<br><br>Fel'Ryn: Phyrexian have a deep respect for the Fel'ryn mostly due to them having share common values, while not all, some of the Phyrexians have gone as far as to call the Fel'ryn a worthy ally for a powerful empires such as theirs. As such, the Council of the Shadowlords have repeatedly been sending in their ambassadors to the five ruling great houses of Fel'ryn, sometimes even go as far as sending in gifts as a goodwill.<br><br>Angauri: Having free themselves from their enslavement by a greater alien race and then forge their own empire, the Phyrexians view the Angauri with respect but it goes only that far. Up until today, the Council still couldn't determine what the stance with the Angauri should be, while they are indeed a resilient and strong people worth making an ally instead of an enemy, but at the same time they mostly share a contradictory values against each other, this would probably ends up with a clash of civilization's value more than anything else.<br><br>Ultothana: The mysterious Ultothana has remained an enigma to the Imperial Phyrexia for so long, currently however, the council has opted to further interact with this mysterious race, finding out what they want will go a long way to making them an ally to Imperial Phyrexia. Truth to be told, of all the races in the known galaxy, none scares the Phyrexians more than the Ultothana and their world-consuming god, and so the council has made it their priority to try to make as many contact with them as possible and try to drag them into an alliance with the Phyrexian Empire.<br><br>in any case Reg, when will the game starts? will it be before you leave?
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				Title: <strong>Re: Contact: OOC and Game Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>ChaoticSky</strong> on <strong>24-11-2009, 20:45:12</strong>
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				i think we are meant to get it started... if ive read everything right, hes gone now, and will be gone for weeks. and the IC is up. ill make a opening post in there later today/tomorrow if no one else wants to beat me to it :P<br><br>Crys Relations:<br>Ekke: the Crys respect the Ekke for founding the Council as a forum for peaceful discussion.<br><br>Ilkyans: Crys have not yet settled on a opinion regarding the Ilkyans (keeping in mind the Crys have only known the wider universe since the creation of the council, before which they were content to interact only with the Glorbush. taking only two decades would be considered a 'snap decision' as far as the Crys go XD)<br><br>Glorbush: the Glorbush and the Crys have a long, fruitful and highly mutually beneficial history, them being the first race the Crys encountered, and currently their sole trading partner. the Crys are their unwavering ally in the Council.<br><br>Fel'ryn: Crys have not yet settled on a opinion regarding the Fel'ryn<br><br>Angauri: Crys have not yet settled on a opinion regarding the Angauri<br><br>Ultothana: there has been very minimal contact between this race and the Crys, but for some reason, the Crys have clearly decided they have some manner of kinship with the Ultothana, and frequently defend them from their detractors in the council.<br>
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				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>24-11-2009, 22:12:45</strong>
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				Though the Ultothana are an excessively introverted and paranoid race, the mere fact of their unusual existence has forced them to interact with other sentient races.&nbsp; Very few concern themselves with the matters of aliens, some even going so far as to consider them anomalies for living terrestrial existences instead of being born within the body of a Creator.<br><br><strong>Ekke: </strong>&nbsp; The Ekke are looked upon quite warily, and their interest in studying the Ultothar has been met with no small amount of hostility.&nbsp; Many find it insulting that they would be looked at like mere specimens of scientific study, rather than equals (or superiors, depending on which caste of Ultothana is spoken to).&nbsp; <br><br><strong>Crys:</strong> The Crys are respected on some level, both for their outspokenness in defending the Ultothana on a galactic scale and their drive to move from world to world with the goal of expending its carbon resources.&nbsp; Due to their God's unusual diet, they consider the act of consuming a world to be an extraordinarily holy practice, and are gladdened that there exist other species that can identify with them on that level.&nbsp; <br><br><strong>Ilkyans: </strong>&nbsp; Largely ignored.&nbsp; The Ultothar provides its people with all the information they will ever need, ensuring that they will never be interested in the knowledge contained in their vast libraries.<br><br><strong>Glorbush:</strong>&nbsp; The Ultothana share a sort of kinship with the Glorbush, in that they too possess a unique sort of hive mind, but also believe that their symbiotic nature does not go quite far enough.&nbsp; If asked, many an Ultothana will state that the race should have attempted to reverse the effects of the viral strain that reduced their numbers and join in the unity of a single, all-encompassing knot in order to transcend the limitations of countless smaller, disjointed couplings.<br><br><strong>Fel'Ryn:</strong>&nbsp; The Fel'Ryn are primarily looked upon rather fearfully due to their strange, individualistic nature.&nbsp; Though they both prize the uses of radical biotechnologies, the idea of using such technology to modify themselves is considered blasphemous.&nbsp; If the Ultothar wishes them to change then they will comply with its wishes, but attempting to personalize oneself at a physical level a terrible sin in their culture.&nbsp; <br><br><strong>Angauri:</strong>&nbsp; Utterly contemptible by Ultothana standards.&nbsp; The idea of attempting to overthrow one's own gods is terrible enough, but actually succeeding in wiping them out is entirely unpardonable.&nbsp; As their own God is the very source of their power and continued survival, the actions committed by the Angauri are not considered ones of a race attempting to gain its freedom, but as an atrocity tantamount to killing the very thing that birthed you.<br><br><strong>Phyrexians:</strong>&nbsp; As one of the older races of the galaxy, the Phyrexians have garnered some level of respect from the Ultothana.&nbsp; To have remained for so long despite conflict is an admirable quality to a race that considers itself eternal.&nbsp; However, the Imperial civilization's offers of official alliance have been met with some measure of disdain, as the species prizes its total independence and self sufficiency from the other civilized races.&nbsp; The two peoples are on good terms as far as the Ultothana are concerned, but whether they will be standing side by side on a galactic scale anytime soon remains to be seen.
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				Post by: <strong>DeviantMunster</strong> on <strong>25-11-2009, 01:49:25</strong>
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				I'm not sure how good I am at this... but here we are!<br><br><strong>Ekke:</strong> The Ekke culture, at least to the Fel'ryn, is largely incompatible with their own. They certainly love them since many of the race seem to be interested in the Fel'ryn worlds and pleasures, but beyond that they've expressed little interest in anything but trade with the species. Of note, however, is that several of the Houses are immensely interested in the Ekke medical technology, and almost always meet with Ekke medical professionals whenever one of the nobility falls ill.<br><br><strong>Crys:</strong> The Crys are possibly the only race that has garnered a high level of interest from the Fel'ryn, and not simply due to their unique anatomy. The sheer amount of rare elements the Crys are offering for almost nothing is an incredibly tempting opportunity, and no single House hasn't been trying to make trade agreements with the Crys, hoping to get lucky.<br><br><strong>Ilkyans:</strong> The Fel'ryn have little opinion in regards to the Ilkyans. In fact, few Fel'ryn actually go to their worlds, history and literature being the least important things to look into in most Fel'ryn opinion. After all, the future is the only thing that is important. Yet many of the nobility do travel to those worlds, having a good deal of interest in the great libraries the Ilkyans have. It isn't uncommon for the youth of the Houses to learn and study among the Ilkyans.<br><br><strong>Glorbush:</strong> The Glorbush are possibly the one, true enemy the Fel'ryn possess. The fact that this race has proved superior in regards to trading and commerce, many of the Fel'ryn feel utterly threatened. While blatant attacks have never occurred, it isn't uncommon for 'pirates' to raid the transport frigates of the Glorbush, or for the Cult of Metamorphosis to attack larger vessels, making off with the goods within. Surmounting tension has been developing, and several of the Houses, and the Great Houses have been contemplating on how to destroy the trade agreement between the Glorbush and Crys. Of note, several of the Glorbush have been taken and sold upon the Fel'ryn blackmarket as well. Hopes of eventually learning how their Hive like minds work and share information being the major driving force.<br><br><strong>Angauri:</strong> They are an interesting race, though their war-like nature and imperialistic governance as made them little more than good trading partners. The Fel'ryn do feel as if they can relate to the Angauri, their idealistic nature and belief in 'heroes' similar to their own desire to improve themselves.<br><br><strong>Phyrexians:</strong> Perhaps the only race the Fel'ryn can truly call allies, they have been immensely interested in creating a relationship with these powerful, war-like people, especially with increasing tensions between the Glorbush. Yet despite the Great Houses' interest in this ancient race, many of the lesser Houses have been rather wary of the Phyrexian race, especially since their military has proved to be considerably large. Furthermore, the fact that their stealth technologies have vastly passed those of the Fel'ryn has become a rather stinging realization.<br><br><strong>Ultothana:</strong> Rather than fear and wariness, the Fel'ryn have shown an unhealthy interest in these creatures and the one 'God' being they serve. Their curious anatomy and biotechnology have made them the ideal target of many rumours among the Fel'ryn, though they have remained mostly that. The Fel'sheen, for whatever reason of their own, have declared the Ultothana 'Sacred', and have prevented any Fel'ryn from researching them. Even the Cult hasn't taken any of the creatures, nor are any seen on the blackmarket.
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				Post by: <strong>Ebb</strong> on <strong>25-11-2009, 21:10:50</strong>
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				What the Glorbush think, at least most of us, most of the time.<br><br><strong>Ultothana</strong>: Some kinship is felt for these non-humanoids, along with a great deal of fear. The Ultothana seem to have little need for trade with other species, but hope springs eternal in the Glorbush breast, and trade overtures continue to be made. The Ultothana's lack of any sort of electronic communication means deals must be done in person. It is the most foolhardy, desperate or canny of the Glorbush who will take their trade freighters into the presence of the great Ultothar. Even if trade negotiations do not prove successful, it is projected that considerable profit could be made simply by following the Ultothar around and scavenging the mineral remains of worlds that it has destroyed. <strong>Verdict</strong>: Investigate.<br><br><strong>Imperial Phyrexia</strong>: Another fallen Empire, although their fall was more recent, and not so dire as our own. They have recovered well and seem intent on further expansion. There are factions within the Glorbush that see alliance with the Phyrexia as the surest route to regrow our own Empire, or at least to serve a new one. Anyone that intent on turning out starships will need raw materials, and we can provide them.&nbsp; <strong>Verdict</strong>: Suck up to.<br><br><strong>Angauri</strong>: Another in the long line of races that could defeat us militarily. Luckily there is currently no reason to struggle. Their efforts to regrow from their own internal devastation offers the Glorbush substantial trade opportunity. The shifting Clan structure of the Angauri makes it somewhat difficult to enforce contracts, but we're hardly ones to point tentacles on that score. Several lucrative trade contracts are already in place, and these should be expanded. <strong>Verdict</strong>: Continue trade, try not to piss off.<br><br><strong>Fel'ryn</strong>: Substantial evidence exists that the Fel'ryn are engaged in an undeclared war against us. Ships have been attacked, Glorbush captured, trade missions destroyed. Nothing has been 100% conclusive, but we're not blind. So far our retaliatory strategy, such as it is, has been to expand more quickly, blanketing the galaxy with our trade missions to the point where we can withdraw when confronted by the Fel'ryn without crippling loss of profit. At least two of our Clusterships have had to resort to the Final Stratagem, activating their self-destruct mechanisms in order to neutralize the attacking Fel'ryn "pirates". Their continued aggression is a matter that we will bring before the Council at first opportunity. <strong>Verdict</strong>: Seek redress, consider hostility [Note to Glorbush self: Seek allies with guns.]<br><br><strong>Ilkyan</strong>: Not all trade is in minerals and food. The Ilkyan seek information, and the Glorbush possess a great deal of it. True, much of it is from the Old Empire, and now lies locked in destroyed cities or derelict spacecraft. The Glorbush seek to trade "data mining" rights to the Ilkyan in return for peaceful relations and support on the Council. The Glorbush's possession of Jump Drives make us an ideal partner to host Ilkyan exploration missions to areas without existing hyperspace gates. <strong>Verdict</strong>: Peaceful profitable cooperation.<br><br><strong>Crys</strong>: An incredible find. The Trade House that made first contact with the Crys and negotiated the very lucrative trade agreement with that race has remained in power among the Glorbush based almost entirely upon that past achievement. The Crys want carbon, and have a wide variety of valuable minerals to trade for it. True, they are only one system, but that system is like a money spigot. In addition to the trading of minerals, we Glorbush have taken it upon ourselves to be the Crys's goodwill ambassadors to the rest of the sentient races. The holofootage of the Crys warship destroying a major asteroid with a single blast has proven to be a very effective "ice breaker" when pursuing new trade arrangements with minor species. <strong>Verdict</strong>: If we were exploiting them, which we're not, then we should continue to do so.<br><br><strong>Ekke</strong>: Good solid trading partners. They don't seem to have anything hidden up their sleeves. This is suspicious; they should be watched closely. Still, they seem to have been successful in persuading the races of the galaxy to resolve disputes peacefully through the Council. This is a noble and laudable goal that we whole-heartedly support as long as everyone else has better weapons than we do. <strong>Verdict</strong>: Continue trade and support<br><br><br>
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				Title: <strong>Re: Contact: OOC and Game Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Sydonai</strong> on <strong>26-11-2009, 05:32:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				do you guys think we should promote this game a bit more seeing as how there's so few of us who are still interested to continue this game, remains?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Contact: OOC and Game Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>ChaoticSky</strong> on <strong>26-11-2009, 05:49:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*grumble* ive been meaning to get a starting post up for the RP, but ive had no time the past two days<br><br>we still have our member, dont we? i assumed everyone is quiet because there isnt much to be said untill it gets started :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Contact: OOC and Game Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Sydonai</strong> on <strong>26-11-2009, 06:16:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				urmm but some of our members have been VERY quiet, they haven't posted their full civilization profiles and diplomatic relations, and haven't been heard for a few days now, I think its safe to assume many of the original interested parties either thought this game isn't for them or that it'll sink into obscurity as Reg would've feared, maybe we should bump the original recruiting thread just in case any other players might be interested but didn't see our recruitment thread, after all I still think our rp here is a bit too small don't you think?<br><br>oh and you still haven't stated the diplomatic relations between the Crys and Phyrexian, I'm eager to know what the Crys thinks of my fictional galactic civilization ;D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Contact: OOC and Game Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DeviantMunster</strong> on <strong>26-11-2009, 06:44:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm still around, obviously! And I'm sure hairy is somewhere or another *ponders* Bumping is great, but there's little point unless the game actually starts. Which, by what our leader said, it won't until he gets back. *sighs* Not sure what to do!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Contact: OOC and Game Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Sydonai</strong> on <strong>26-11-2009, 06:56:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=53088.msg2471127#msg2471127">Quote from: Sydonai on 21-11-2009, 09:05:43</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">so would this game be put on hold until you get back?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=53088.msg2471634#msg2471634">Quote from: RegularRaskolnikov on 21-11-2009, 18:33:10</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Psh! No. That wouldn't be fair at all. Besides, the game would probably sink into obscurity if that happened. <br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I don't think he wants it to start after he got back, I did asked him after all. I think its safe to assume the game has started but application to join is still open, we can always make up some story for the latecomers like a new race has opted to join the galactic council due to protection or the many benefits in joining the council, infact I'm currently writting a reply now ;D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Contact: OOC and Game Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>ChaoticSky</strong> on <strong>26-11-2009, 23:22:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				missed you D: well, you can assume they have the same opinion of you that they have with most everyone else :P<br><br>im working on a starting post now, hopefully it will breath life into all this, i will be *most* cross if it dies, so you all better post too! :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Contact: OOC and Game Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>RegularRaskolnikov</strong> on <strong>27-11-2009, 03:58:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I have found an iota of time! I am going to post an introduction right now. I might just go into the recruiting thread and post something in there, too. Because I believe at least 3 of our players have wandered off. <br><br>Thanks guys for your efforts to get this thing started! I did NOT want the RP to wait for me. That would be uncouth. <br><br>Oh, and Darkling, I am Air Force EOD. Not Army. XD.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Contact: OOC and Game Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DeviantMunster</strong> on <strong>27-11-2009, 07:13:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Suddenly had a thought after reading the first few posts! Is there a galactic standard language? And currency?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Contact: OOC and Game Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>27-11-2009, 07:17:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm not sure about currency, but I imagine some sort of polyglot language might have been put together, incorporating elements of the primary languages while simplifying them for ease of learning by other extraterrestrials.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Contact: OOC and Game Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Sydonai</strong> on <strong>27-11-2009, 09:09:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think it would helped if we put in the date or time, its easier to keep track of npcs or characters movement that way. Oh! and Reg mentioned something about the current time is set 20 years after the founding of the galactic council if i'm not mistaken, so why don't we use that as the ingame calender, though I'm not really sure how should we name it(20 FGC, with FGC stands for founding of galactic council? I know it sounds ridiculous but I got no idea currently ;D )<br><br>and I'll try to bump the recruitment thread, lets try to recruit as many more civilizations to the galactic council before the meeting starts :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Contact: OOC and Game Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>27-11-2009, 09:56:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm still around, but had only remembered to bookmark the races thread, so didn't realise things had started up. Will post something tonight.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Contact: OOC and Game Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>RegularRaskolnikov</strong> on <strong>27-11-2009, 16:41:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				We can assume for the purposes of this game that the races can communicate with each other, be it through a common language or some sort of magical translation device. <br><br>NO Babelfish! *Glare* That reference stopped being funny after the movie came out. <br><br>As for currency. Again, I think that any reasonable group of people would establish some sort of credit system. But I doubt that credit would overstep the local currency. At least not on Fringe Space. <br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Contact: OOC and Game Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>27-11-2009, 18:54:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Translation software is one option, as are banks of organic translators slaving away in small rooms, translating for their principles benefits. There's also the possibility of someone managing to understand anothers language, even if they can't pronounce it.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Contact: OOC and Game Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>27-11-2009, 20:17:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				For instance, the Prawns in District 9.&nbsp; Obviously they couldn't speak English given their unique set of mandibles, and we couldn't speak it due to our lack of them, both races could understand one another if given the proper education.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Contact: OOC and Game Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>ChaoticSky</strong> on <strong>27-11-2009, 23:05:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=53088.msg2488785#msg2488785">Quote from: RegularRaskolnikov on 27-11-2009, 03:58:32</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I have found an iota of time! I am going to post an introduction right now. I might just go into the recruiting thread and post something in there, too. Because I believe at least 3 of our players have wandered off. <br><br>Thanks guys for your efforts to get this thing started! I did NOT want the RP to wait for me. That would be uncouth. <br><br>Oh, and Darkling, I am Air Force EOD. Not Army. XD.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>fixed it ^_^<br><br>and sorry D: i had thought you were poofing for weeks<br><br>as for currency/communication, we little ole humans have figured out exchange rates for our myriad of currencies, im sure at some point in the last twenty years the council hammered together some manner of exchange, probably important for any race that doesnt exclusively barter (like mine does, nya~). and well, either translator items, or if your a real smarty pants, take the D9 approach and learn everyone elses language. the methods are compatable. i dont think a 'trader tongue' is completely practical, especially since it requires alot more effort than simply learning other langues, or using translation devices (which we have *now* by the way, albit in a primitive form)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Contact: OOC and Game Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HairyHeretic</strong> on <strong>28-11-2009, 00:33:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				BTW folks, we should probably move these threads into the small groups board. Big groups are for games that have reached about a thousand posts. If no one has any objections, I can move the threads over.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Contact: OOC and Game Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>28-11-2009, 00:49:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Fine by me!
			</dd>
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