Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread
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				Post by: <strong>HopeFox</strong> on <strong>22-12-2014, 04:39:19</strong>
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				Welcome to the OOC thread for my Regency England D&amp;D game! In lieu of anything more clever, I'm calling it "Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons".<br><br>The character thread is here (https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219998.0). I'll link the first IC thread here when it opens.<br><br><br>I hope for this game to include a pleasant mixture of free-form socialization and action-packed adventure. Character-specific plots and the influence of all layers of society are going to be a big part of this, but so will killing monsters and taking their stuff.<br><br>Now, I've never actually run a forum-based game before, so I don't know how it will turn out, especially when combat or other system-intensive situations crop up. At a guess, though, I don't think running a party of more than about six players through a combat is going to work well. At the same time, I really don't want to turn away players, especially when everyone keeps coming up with such interesting character concepts!<br><br>Therefore, this is my plan:<br><br>- A large part of the game is going to be freeform social interaction (between PCs and with NPCs), which should be comfortable with a large number of players. I'll get some threads started, set up various character introductions, and we can see how the social game flows from there.<br>- When the first actual adventure happens, I'll throw everyone into it, and we'll see how it works out. That will help everyone to get a feel for the action side of the game.<br>- After that, we'll see how many players we have, and how manageable that is. If we still have more players than I'm comfortable with, then we can keep everyone in for the social scenes, and when I run an adventure, we'll choose an appropriately-sized subset of PCs to go on it on an adventure-by-adventure basis. That way, some players will have to miss out on some adventures, but they'll still be part of the overall game, and of course I'll do my best to spread the adventures around fairly.<br><br>To summarize: No real limit on the number of players in the overall game, but a limit to the number of players going on any given adventure. How does that sound?
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HopeFox</strong> on <strong>22-12-2014, 04:40:08</strong>
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				<span class="bbc_u"><strong>Character creation</strong></span><br><br>Here are the rules and guidelines for character creation. When you've built a character, send it (a sheet and a background of at least a couple of paragraphs) to me in PM, and if it's all good, I'll ask you to post it in the character thread.<br><br>All PCs start at level 1, at least at this time. 32 point buy <div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">details</div><div class="spoiler_body">All ability scores start at 8, and you have 32 points to spend on them. Raising scores from 8 to 14 costs one point each. Raising them to 15 or 16 costs two points each, raising them to 17 or 18 costs three points each.</div></div>, no dice involved.<br><br>All classes from the main 3.5 line of books are available, including psionics. Some classes (like ninja) will have certain geographic and cultural requirements. Check with me before building anything too outlandish, though, like the classes from Tome of Magic. The racial paragon classes are also okay.<br><br>Most (0 ECL) races are fine - again, check with me before choosing anything too odd. If you especially want to play something that has a level adjustment, we can try to work something out, but assume not.<br><br>Everyone gets the Apprentice feat for free! This is a feat from the DMG2. It means that your character has a mentor who is helping them to learn their skills, and will also throw social opportunities their way from time to time.<br><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Apprentice mechanics</div><div class="spoiler_body">An Apprentice gains two new skills to add to their list of class skills (if they didn't already have those skills in-class), and two bonus skill points to spend on them. They also gain a unique bonus specific to the type of mentor they have.<br><br>Craftsman: +2 to Craft checks, 10% discount on purchasing materials to craft items (including magic items). Skills: Appraise, Knowledge (architecture and engineering).<br>Criminal: +2 to Intimidate checks, and gain £10 times your new character level every time you gain a level (so you start with £25 instead of £15). Skills: Bluff, Gather Information.<br>Entertainer: +2 to Diplomacy checks, can call on a fan of half your character level for aid, once per level. Skills: Diplomacy, Perform.<br>Martial Artist: +2 to Intimidate checks and Reflex saves. Skills: Concentration, Tumble.<br>Philosopher: +2 to Concentration checks and Will saves. Skills: Knowledge (any one), Sense Motive.<br>Soldier: +2 to Intimidate checks and Fortitude saves. Skills: Intimidate, Knowledge (local).<br>Spellcaster: +2 to Spellcraft checks, and a unique bonus depending on what sort of spellcaster you are. Skills: Knowledge (any one), Use Magic Device.<br>Woodsman: +2 to Survival checks, can track as if possessing the Track feat if the DC is 20 or lower. Skills: Knowledge (nature), Survival.<br><br>When the apprentice reaches level 5, he graduates from his apprenticeship, although he retains most of the benefits. He then gains the Mentor feat, which I will detail at the appropriate time, but it means you'll have apprentices of your own!<br><br>You can also call on your mentor for advice and occasionally aid. Of course, he will want things from you too.</div></div><br><br>No Traits and Flaws, at least not from a mechanical perspective.<br><br><strong>Newly added:</strong> The "level 1 multiclassing" rules from the 3.0 DMG are available. This lets you take half a level in two different classes at level 1, giving you some features of each class, in preparation for becoming a 1/1 multiclass at level 2. Let me know if you think this is appropriate for your character, and I'll go over the details with you. (Only for ordinary base classes - not template classes or racial paragon classes.)<br><br>Things to consider about your character:<br><br>- Race and nationality: England is a predominantly human nation, but has a lot of hobgoblins and elves, and members of almost any race can be found within its shores. Tension between different races is usually over nationality than their actual physical differences - a fight between humans and elves is probably really a fight between Englishmen and Frenchmen at its core. If your character is British, from which part of Britain?<br><br>- Names. First names are often chosen along racial lines, while surnames are usually of national origin. Hence, a French elf might be named "Lomadriethiel Artoix", while a Scottish dwarf might be "Duergrim Macintyre".<br><br>- Social class. This is very important in Britain at this point in history. There are several ways to be in any given social class. Lower-class characters might be rural farmers, urban factory workers or outright criminals. Middle-class characters may be professional doctors, lawyers or spellcasters, or merchants whose families are rivalling the nobility in wealth. Upper-class characters might be nobility or landed gentry, and may have a profession (military, government, the clergy) that still qualifies them as "genteel".<br><br>- Family. Obviously important for upper-class characters, as good breeding is everything, and if your parents or grandparents actually worked for a living, that makes you new money and hence scum. But for all characters, who are your parents? Are they alive? Did you even know them? Do you have any siblings? Are you married? If not, why not, and do you intend to marry later?<br><br>- Profession. Not the same thing as "character class", although of course the two are related. A fighter might be an enlisted soldier, an officer, or a mercenary, and the Army and Navy are two very different entities. A cleric might be a parish priest with responsibilities to the moral upkeep of his parishoners, or an academic studying the lore of his god in a cloistered church or university hall. A rogue might be a common street thief or a high-class schemer.<br><br>- Education. Over the last few decades, the Church of Boccob has opened a number of "charity schools" that teach basic literacy and numeracy to children free of charge, funded by church tithes and charitable donations. It's not a perfect system by any stretch, and many families can't even afford to send their children to a free school when they could be working in fields or factories, but the educational level of Britain has been rising steadily throughout the 18th and early 19th centuries. Wealthier families can afford more expensive schools or even private tuition. University is required for wizards and clerics (with some few exceptions), but many characters can benefit from a university education - even sorcerers sometimes go to Oxford to study arcane theory.<br><br>- Ambitions. An important part of this game is going to be your character's ambitions. What do they want to do with their life? Where do they see themselves in twenty years? Surrounded by money? Children? Minions? Worshippers? The more you can tell me about this, the more I can tailor plot events to facilitate your character's progression.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HopeFox</strong> on <strong>22-12-2014, 04:40:33</strong>
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				<span class="bbc_u"><strong>House Rules</strong></span><br><br>There is no -4 penalty for firing ranged weapons into melee combat. The Precise Shot feat is thus deprecated, and anyone who gets it as a bonus feat should ask me for a different feat instead, and anything that requires it as a prerequisite just requires Point Blank Shot instead. Firing into grapples is still as risky as usual, though, and the Improved Precise Shot feat is still useful.<br><br>Money is measured in pounds (£), shillings (s.), and pence (d.). £1 is equivalent to 10 gp, so just divide all listed costs by 10 to get equivalents in pounds. Every PC starts with £15 worth of cash or equipment. I will endeavour to keep everyone at the wealth recommended for their level, even if money comes from different sources for different characters.<br><br>Firearms rules:<br><br>Pistols and muskets are available! They are Simple Weapons, so most characters are proficient with them. Any class which is proficient with the light or heavy crossbow is also proficient with the pistol and musket respectively, so the only core class that isn't proficient with the pistol or musket is the druid. Both weapons require two full-round actions to reload (which can be reduced with feats and magic items). It takes both hands to load either weapon or to fire a musket, but a pistol can be fired in one hand. Most feats that apply to crossbows (such as Rapid Reload and Crossbow Sniper) can be taken for firearms.<br><br><table class="bbc_table"><tbody><tr><td></td><td>Cost</td><td>Damage</td><td>Critical</td><td>Range inc.</td><td>Weight</td><td>Damage type</td></tr><tr><td>Pistol</td><td>£10</td><td>2d6</td><td>x3</td><td>50'</td><td>3 lb.</td><td>Piercing</td></tr><tr><td>Musket</td><td>£5</td><td>2d8</td><td>x3</td><td>150'</td><td>10 lb.</td><td>Piercing</td></tr></tbody></table><br>A bag of pistol or musket balls contains 10 balls, weighs 2 lb. and costs 5s. Gunpowder comes in little waxed paper packets, enough for a single shot. Ten of these cost £1 5s. and weighs 1 lb. So, between balls and powder, you're looking at £1 10s. (a pound and a half) and 3 lb. weight for ten shots.<br><br>I will not be assigning individual XP awards. Instead, all PCs will gain a level at certain intervals. I feel that this makes the system fairer and also simpler. If you want to do anything that costs XP (such as cast certain spells or create magic items), your character must instead pay £1 for each 2 XP you would be spending. This keeps spellcasters from falling behind the rest of the party, while still making it worthwhile to craft magic items for themselves and others. This monetary payment will typically be in the form of not materials, but "experiences", such as paying for a pilgrimage to a holy site or access to valuable magical tomes. (Or, I dunno, drugs if you're a bard.)<br><br>There is only one Perform skill. Your Perform skill covers a number of different forms of expression equal to your rank in the Perform skill. Thus, a character with Perform 3 might have singing, harp and pianoforte as expression forms, and has rank 3 ability in each of these. (However, since this is more powerful than what's in the book, the divisions of the skill are smaller. An expression form is "harp" or "violin", not "string instruments".)<br><br>There is no Knowledge (dungeoneering) skill. Knowing about underground creatures uses the same skills as it does anywhere else - Knowledge (nature) tells you about animals, Knowledge (arcana) tells you about magical beasts and aberrations. Understanding the structural details of dungeons comes under Knowledge (architecture and engineering).<br><br><strong>Newly added: </strong> Hit points. Everyone gets maximum hit points at level 1, and then average hit points, rounding up, at each subsequent level. That means 3 for a d4, 4 for a d6, 5 for a d8, 6 for a d10 and 7 for a d12.<br><br>There may be other house rules that I've forgotten that I'm using. I will try to remember to post everything here, so that the game is consistent.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HopeFox</strong> on <strong>22-12-2014, 04:40:49</strong>
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				<strong><span class="bbc_u">Setting</span></strong><br><br>This whole setting is a work in progress, and I'm going to have to make a lot of it up as we go along. I expect that various players' suggestions will end up contributing to the setting as well.<br><br>This is mostly a placeholder for now - I'll start copying things across from the interest thread in a little bit, and then work from there.
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				Post by: <strong>kckolbe</strong> on <strong>22-12-2014, 04:54:03</strong>
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				This is wonderful.&nbsp; I am so glad I kept trying to come up with something.&nbsp; I'll have some more later.
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				Post by: <strong>Chulanowa</strong> on <strong>22-12-2014, 09:12:47</strong>
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				Still brainstorming - I'm leaning towards "underclass" themes - foreigners, enlisted men, the indigent, etc.
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				Post by: <strong>RubySlippers</strong> on <strong>22-12-2014, 09:19:23</strong>
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				About Wizards I would also have apprenticed wizards as in non-university but make it unlicensed so they can't get the good wizard professions, maybe they could work for less on some places merchant ships might have one if American on board or maybe the military with lower chances of advancement. But I would ban Specialists since odds are they would have cracked down on amateurs legally by now. Just an idea.<br><br>As for my character not sure of her ambitions running a tavern might be good or something, come on she is social trash, what should she try to do become queen of England?
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				Post by: <strong>HopeFox</strong> on <strong>22-12-2014, 10:20:30</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10821502#msg10821502">Quote from: Chulanowa on 22-12-2014, 09:12:47</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Still brainstorming - I'm leaning towards "underclass" themes - foreigners, enlisted men, the indigent, etc.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Cool. I'm glad we're getting a mixture of social classes. If you're looking for a local lower class group, may I suggest the Irish? Ireland is still entirely part of the United Kingdom, and they're not too happy about it. Then there are the Indian migratory Halfling caravans, the ones who get called "gypsies". They're pretty unpopular.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10821508#msg10821508">Quote from: RubySlippers on 22-12-2014, 09:19:23</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">About Wizards I would also have apprenticed wizards as in non-university but make it unlicensed so they can't get the good wizard professions, maybe they could work for less on some places merchant ships might have one if American on board or maybe the military with lower chances of advancement. But I would ban Specialists since odds are they would have cracked down on amateurs legally by now. Just an idea.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>It's less about accreditation and more about the actual effort and resources it takes to become a wizard. It's possible for one wizard to teach another without access to the full facilities of a university, but it's hard. Likewise with clerics. That's what clerics of the proscribed gods need to do.<br><br>Licensing is an issue, though. You need a degree in divinity to be ordained in the Church of England, and yes, a lot of patrons will only want to deal with university-certified wizards.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">As for my character not sure of her ambitions running a tavern might be good or something, come on she is social trash, what should she try to do become queen of England?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>She could aspire to lead her own criminal organisation. Which works well in conjunction with running a tavern, naturally.
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				Post by: <strong>Chulanowa</strong> on <strong>22-12-2014, 10:44:43</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10821589#msg10821589">Quote from: HopeFox on 22-12-2014, 10:20:30</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Cool. I'm glad we're getting a mixture of social classes. If you're looking for a local lower class group, may I suggest the Irish? Ireland is still entirely part of the United Kingdom, and they're not too happy about it. Then there are the Indian migratory Halfling caravans, the ones who get called "gypsies". They're pretty unpopular.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Oh, I'm sure there's <em>all sorts</em> of lower social castes to draw from.&nbsp; ;D<br><br>"I'm no good at heels! Look at me, I'm no good in heels! <em>He's</em> good in heels! This will never work!"
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				Post by: <strong>kckolbe</strong> on <strong>22-12-2014, 13:28:25</strong>
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				Chula, I had to look up that damn quote, but thank you.&nbsp; Great scene.&nbsp; That movie got better with every segment.
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				Post by: <strong>kckolbe</strong> on <strong>22-12-2014, 15:11:55</strong>
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				Name: Milton Callow<br>Race: Human<br>Nationality: English<br>Social Class: Middle<br>Family: (unsure)<br>Profession: Vicar (ordained)<br>Education: Cambridge, double major in Divine Studies and Arcane Theory<br>Class: Archivist<br>Char Sheet:<br>http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=1080498<br><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Background</div><div class="spoiler_body">Milton could call himself a Priest of Boccob and not, in his mind, be lying.&nbsp; He'd been "ordained" in his mind since the first time he cast Prestidigitation.&nbsp; Everyone who wielded and taught magic was a priest as far as he was concerned.&nbsp; That said, he held no services to Boccob, maintained no temples to his glory.&nbsp; Milton felt Boccob would think such acts a waste.&nbsp; Instead, Milton simply performed simple cantrips and answered questions regarding spellcraft at length.&nbsp; There were services to Boccob within the Church of England, but Milton did not attend them.&nbsp; To Milton, furthering the knowledge of magic was the only way to truly honor Boccob, and that was a calling Milton took quite seriously.<br><br>Milton was, of course, not a Priest of Boccob.&nbsp; Instead, he'd offered his service to the Lady of Book and Bone, Wee Jas.&nbsp; As with most initiates, his duties in the beginning mainly consisted of tending graveyards and watching for those who might defile graves.&nbsp; He'd been introduced to her service at Cambridge, where he'd studied among wizards and, upon graduation, been ordained as a priest in her service.&nbsp; Despite his magic manifesting as a result of prayers and not incantations, Milton still made a name for himself among his primarily arcane-inclined peers with his impressive understanding of spellcraft.&nbsp; Like them, he kept a "spellbook" consisting of recorded prayers from ancient texts, a practice almost completely abandoned by modern clerics.<br><br>Milton's status within the Church of Wee Jas, or the broader clergy in general, is difficult to explain to outsiders.&nbsp; Technically, he is of no importance, a simple vicar to the established rector, though he is no longer required to personally clean gravestones or stand vigil in cemeteries except for special observances.&nbsp; His main duties consist of transcribing works and even scribing simple scrolls for the few prayers he has mastered.&nbsp; In addition, he has recently been entrusted with complete access to the libraries of Delleb and has begun making appearances at devotions to Halmyr for groups of guardsmen on night shifts, where he discusses the anatomy of both humanoids and beasts, providing lessons on vital points to strike.&nbsp; While "moonlighting" for the services of lesser gods was far from unheard of, it was quite uncommon for one of his status to be afforded such freedom or be invited to such a role.&nbsp; His "sermons," while not particularly spirited or compelling in terms of performance, are very informative, making more practical audiences (such as junior guards) very appreciative of him.<br><br>While neither Wee Jas nor Milton are technically part of the Church of England, a <em>proper</em> Priest of Boccob has taken Milton under his wing.</div></div><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Ambitions</div><div class="spoiler_body">Milton wants to learn all there is to learn about magic and, if possible, add to the amount of magic in the world.&nbsp; While the thought of rising high within the church is appealing, it is not a strong motivator, as he knows that he will become more influential regardless of profession as his knowledge increases.&nbsp; He is somewhat weak to the company of beautiful women, but not recklessly so.</div></div><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Reputation/Factions</div><div class="spoiler_body">Ironically, or fittingly, depending on one's viewpoint, Milton is closest with other wizards in the city.&nbsp; His keen mind, prayerbook, scribing of scrolls, and shared worship of studious and arcane-leaning gods gives him much in common with skilled arcanists, and he has been accepted by their community since his days at Cambridge.&nbsp; <br><br>Lately, he's come to minor prominence among the city guard, as his lectures on humanoid anatomy and devotions to Halmyr have been helpful to the mainly uneducated guardsmen, not to mention the healing he is able to provide for lessons with the crossbow.&nbsp; If he continues his trend of instructing guards, it is surely only a matter of time before junior military leaders hear of him.<br><br>If there is a group not particularly fond of Milton, it would be the more traditional priests, those who pray for their spells every day, who receive passive blessings from their gods.&nbsp; Many of them see Milton's approach to magic as not just unnecessary, but disrespectful, though there's been no scandals to date.</div></div><br>Still need to work out family and gear.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kimmy</strong> on <strong>22-12-2014, 16:06:09</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10821508#msg10821508">Quote from: RubySlippers on 22-12-2014, 09:19:23</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">As for my character not sure of her ambitions running a tavern might be good or something, come on she is social trash, what should she try to do become queen of England?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Running a hotel, marrying well, operating taverns in safe towns are all good escapes from the low life. Has your character ever done anything with smuggling or stealing alcohol? Or perhaps taking bribes to let people know when bandits and smugglers are moving about? You could be tied to my family with some element like that, if you'd like.
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				Post by: <strong>RubySlippers</strong> on <strong>22-12-2014, 17:14:19</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10822024#msg10822024">Quote from: Kimmy on 22-12-2014, 16:06:09</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Running a hotel, marrying well, operating taverns in safe towns are all good escapes from the low life. Has your character ever done anything with smuggling or stealing alcohol? Or perhaps taking bribes to let people know when bandits and smugglers are moving about? You could be tied to my family with some element like that, if you'd like.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I want her to be that low society type no one would steal from lest she turn them into something, or just enspell them to do some task for a year that is unpleasant. I plan not to dabble in rogue focusing on magic. As for stealing she only knows Charm Person right now. Suggestion will be far more useful. And Geas truly devastating if used carefully. 
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				Post by: <strong>ShadowFox89</strong> on <strong>22-12-2014, 19:35:42</strong>
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				&nbsp;I'll probably make a Scottish warblade gal, learnin' th' way o' her forefathers.
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				Post by: <strong>RubySlippers</strong> on <strong>22-12-2014, 20:12:30</strong>
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				Okay as for a goal I want to found a criminal focused magical guild, with both a training program for wizards okay not as good as Cambridge but it gets the job done and sorcerers who focus on supporting the criminal underworld in the British Isles and abroad. And for a very low born person with a good mind becoming a wizard among criminals is a good way to be upwardly mobile.<br><br>Think that will do. I even have a name: The Guild of Shadows.<br><br>http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=1079942 (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=1079942)
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				Post by: <strong>RubySlippers</strong> on <strong>23-12-2014, 14:23:01</strong>
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				What is the weight and damage type of each firearm? Cost of powder and ammunition per shot?
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HopeFox</strong> on <strong>23-12-2014, 16:37:45</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10822413#msg10822413">Quote from: ShadowFox89 on 22-12-2014, 19:35:42</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"> I'll probably make a Scottish warblade gal, learnin' th' way o' her forefathers.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>That sounds nice! From some family with a noteworthy lineage?<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10822524#msg10822524">Quote from: RubySlippers on 22-12-2014, 20:12:30</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Okay as for a goal I want to found a criminal focused magical guild, with both a training program for wizards okay not as good as Cambridge but it gets the job done and sorcerers who focus on supporting the criminal underworld in the British Isles and abroad. And for a very low born person with a good mind becoming a wizard among criminals is a good way to be upwardly mobile.<br><br>Think that will do. I even have a name: The Guild of Shadows.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>An excellent plan! Spellcasting criminals are not terribly common, so that'll give you a nice niche to work with.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=1079942 (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=1079942)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Looks good! I really love her background. I think it's rather nifty that her family has worked its way up in the world - her father from abandoned orphan (I take it his surname is "Abbey" because he was abandoned at one?) to successful criminal enforcer, and her mother from common whore to... very good common whore. I imagine her mother is the "harlot mamma" of her neighbourhood, who takes new whores under her wing and sics her husband on any man who mistreats them, if she doesn't just stab him herself? And Emma herself is definitely going places. Being one-quarter orc is a nice touch, too.<br><br>I think you're missing 4 skill points - it looks like you haven't included your human bonus skill points.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10821932#msg10821932">Quote from: kckolbe on 22-12-2014, 15:11:55</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Name: Milton Callow<br>Race: Human<br>Nationality: English<br>Social Class: Middle<br>Family: (unsure)<br>Profession: Vicar (ordained)<br>Education: Cambridge, double major in Divine Studies and Arcane Theory<br>Class: Archivist<br>Char Sheet:<br>http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=1080498<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>He looks good! I like his background and motivations. I take it the sheet is still a work in progress? You've still got skills and feats to choose. Oh, and I forgot to mention - I don't use the Knowledge (dungeoneering) skill - knowing about underground creatures comes under Knowledge (nature) and Knowledge (arcana), and knowing how to handle dungeons and traps and things is Knowledge (architecture and engineering). I feel that the distinction between above-ground and underground settings is a bit arbitrary. I'll add that to the house rules section.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kckolbe</strong> on <strong>23-12-2014, 16:45:22</strong>
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				Woohoo!&nbsp; 1 free skill point a level!&nbsp; Not sure what happened with the sheet.&nbsp; I had more filled out, but won't take me long to put that stuff back in.&nbsp; Are "Protection From Chaos/Evil/Good/Law" four separate spells or one spell with four options?<br><br>http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=1080498
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>RubySlippers</strong> on <strong>23-12-2014, 18:15:30</strong>
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				We are not magical criminals we are, er, people that balance the playing field against the genteel folks who have access to magic and she helps her people to with magical items okay not magical items think of "placebo" effect items that at least might help. As the family worked its way up they are still scum just - nicely placed scum over lower scum.&nbsp; ;D<br><br>Mostly at the he can mentor now in how to look mean, flex and bust in heads etc. And mum well management is better than splaying ones legs on a bed at this point.<br><br>Yup forget the extra skill points so put them in Intimidate and beefed up Knowledge (arcana) a tad. 
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kimmy</strong> on <strong>23-12-2014, 22:14:49</strong>
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				I put a character sheet up in the character thread. About the only thing you might fuss over is I choose to start with a level of Wolf instead of any base class. With your mentor feat, I don't need a base class really. Vittoria came out exactly like I'd expect a Lady of Quality should. All the right skills (although Vittoria has no book learning/knowledges but this does suit her wolfish nature), all the right talents &amp; a total lack of armor training. (though she can wear some masterwork light armors without training nor penalty, once she can afford them).<br><br>I added in ambitions but otherwise it's all the same information as before. Just with a character sheet added. Hopefully you approve of it all.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>RubySlippers</strong> on <strong>24-12-2014, 00:03:22</strong>
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				I'm considering taking three levels of Human Paragon later on, for flavor, but not right away.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HopeFox</strong> on <strong>24-12-2014, 09:21:25</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10825956#msg10825956">Quote from: Kimmy on 23-12-2014, 22:14:49</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I put a character sheet up in the character thread. About the only thing you might fuss over is I choose to start with a level of Wolf instead of any base class. With your mentor feat, I don't need a base class really. Vittoria came out exactly like I'd expect a Lady of Quality should. All the right skills (although Vittoria has no book learning/knowledges but this does suit her wolfish nature), all the right talents &amp; a total lack of armor training. (though she can wear some masterwork light armors without training nor penalty, once she can afford them).<br><br>I added in ambitions but otherwise it's all the same information as before. Just with a character sheet added. Hopefully you approve of it all.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>She looks good! I think the werewolf class progression you've posted is reasonable. Being able to turn into a wolf at level 1 is pretty useful, but there are druid variant classes which can do a similar thing and also be able to cast spells, so I hardly think it's overpowered. I would like the base Will save to be poor, though, in line with the animal HD (which get good Reflex and Fortitude only).<br><br>She has a good array of skills, suited both to functioning in high society and being a useful werewolf.<br><br>The bladed fan is fine, but if you don't want to spend a feat on Exotic Weapon Proficiency but still want a concealable weapon, the humble dagger should serve very well. You can carry it in those drawstring purses that ladies of the era carried, or even conceal it under a particularly bulky dress or attach it to your thigh or something. It wouldn't be as readily on hand as a bladed fan, but it wouldn't cost a feat.<br><br>Yes, you can wear armour with which you're not proficient at the cost of applying its armour check penalty to your attack rolls (and certain skill checks that it wouldn't normally), and thus any armour without an ACP is fine. You can, in fact, buy ordinary leather armour right now and use it without penalty. (This doesn't come up in very many games because the classes who don't get light armour proficiency also can't wear armour for other reasons.)<br><br>A courtier's outfit costs £3, and that's all you need for attending society functions if you're not an earl or higher. Ideally, a character should have one "social" outfit (courtier's for £3, scholar's for 10s., entertainer's for 6s.) and one "adventuring" outfit (explorer's for £1 or traveller's for 2s.). Really, a character probably owns multiple outfits, but I don't care about paying for one's entire wardrobe.<br><br>Oh, one last thing - if Lord Cerebus is a baron, then his full styling is "Venturo, Lord Cerebus", and Vittoria is properly "The Honourable Vittoria Cerebus", rather than "Lady".<br><br>But yes! She looks fine. I'm very happy with her.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>ShadowFox89</strong> on <strong>24-12-2014, 09:30:50</strong>
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				&nbsp;I'm honestly not that familiar with Scottish clans of note, and I intended to make her an elf..... I could probably just make one up.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chulanowa</strong> on <strong>24-12-2014, 09:55:57</strong>
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				I'm kind of lacking in inspiration. The fact that 3.5 has <em>fifty-three</em> base classes is surely not helping me any. And then there's my proclivity towards oddballs and "savage" races. <br><br>Hrm. 
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kimmy</strong> on <strong>24-12-2014, 11:32:25</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Oh, one last thing - if Lord Cerebus is a baron, then his full styling is "Venturo, Lord Cerebus", and Vittoria is properly "The Honourable Vittoria Cerebus", rather than "Lady".</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Ah thank you! Titles is actually my weakest knowledge for the setting.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">A courtier's outfit costs £3, and that's all you need for attending society functions if you're not an earl or higher. Ideally, a character should have one "social" outfit (courtier's for £3, scholar's for 10s., entertainer's for 6s.) and one "adventuring" outfit (explorer's for £1 or traveller's for 2s.). Really, a character probably owns multiple outfits, but I don't care about paying for one's entire wardrobe.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>To be honest, I'd be happy to pay almost all my coin on a wardrobe - since I'll also be wearing jewelery. I imagine that would be fair. I have position and title - and really, I don't need a horde of adventuring gear. At least, not so far.<br><br>One of my ambitions is to buy Mastercrafted Spidersilk armor from the Underdark books. Its an AC of 3 or 4, weighs 5lbs &amp; no penalties - if its mastercrafted. And what Lady would would have an 'off the rack' dress? Oh! These are traditionally worn like you would a dress - a skimpy silky thin Drow dress at that! So my goal is have *armor* crafted from this so I can wear my armor to balls &amp; such. It costs something like 750 or a 1,000 gold (plus mastercraft!) so it's going to be my first magic item. And I'll be ensuring it gets prestidigitation &amp; mend cast upon it after combat (if any of the mages want to earn favors or coin from Vittoria, these are two handy spells to learn!) so it's always looking just perfect! Later I'd look at some sort of enchantment to have it transform as I do or vanish into my wolf form so I'm not having to dress/undress all the time! Anyway, that's my goal. It's the lightest armor and the best Vittoria could ever get her hands on. But where in London can you find someone who milks monstrous spiders for their silk? Let alone someone who knows how to transform the sticky substance into a fine silk harder than steel! Total side quest material! :P<br><br>I imagine I can get something crafted with a light leather corset, so that it count as leather or even studded leather if it the corset was steel boned. Of course Vittoria will have to explore London to find the few select stores that provide such practical garments. Another side quest and still too costly for now. But in a level or two, we'll have the gold to finance one of these ideas.<br><br>Vittoria can wear armor &amp; transform into her hybrid shape. But she has to level up to do that. But in a few levels she'll be quite dangerous I think. ^_^<br><br>ShadowFox89 - Have you ever watched the Disney movie Brave? It might be just the inspiration you need - it's a lot of silliness, but their exaggerations are all based on traditional scottish ways &amp; influences. You could even ask Hope about tribal/wood elves from Scottland?<br><br>Chulanowa, Shadow, If you're stuck for inspiration, feel free to PM me. I'm bored, have too much free time and good with inspirational ideas. *spins* Try me, you'll be surprised :P
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kckolbe</strong> on <strong>24-12-2014, 13:26:19</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10827704#msg10827704">Quote from: Kimmy on 24-12-2014, 11:32:25</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Chulanowa, Shadow, If you're stuck for inspiration, feel free to PM me. I'm bored, have too much free time and good with inspirational ideas. *spins* Try me, you'll be surprised :P<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Was that supposed to be flirty, 'cause I'm feeling a little warm.&nbsp; ~grins~&nbsp; I'm also available to help transition ideas to classes.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kimmy</strong> on <strong>24-12-2014, 13:51:17</strong>
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				Warmth? *licks Kckolbe* Mmm I don't think so. I'm much more bubbly and charmed when I'm flirting! Unless I'm swooning... Then I'm complimentary and quite possibly speechless (I swear it's true! Almost total loss for words outside of compliments!) At the moment I'm definitely a puppy. *spins* Would you like to be charmed? I'm very good at it!
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HopeFox</strong> on <strong>24-12-2014, 14:07:15</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10825199#msg10825199">Quote from: kckolbe on 23-12-2014, 16:45:22</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Woohoo!&nbsp; 1 free skill point a level!&nbsp; Not sure what happened with the sheet.&nbsp; I had more filled out, but won't take me long to put that stuff back in.&nbsp; Are "Protection From Chaos/Evil/Good/Law" four separate spells or one spell with four options?<br><br>http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=1080498<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>They are four separate spells.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10827599#msg10827599">Quote from: ShadowFox89 on 24-12-2014, 09:30:50</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"> I'm honestly not that familiar with Scottish clans of note, and I intended to make her an elf..... I could probably just make one up.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Oh, I don't mean to use real Scottish clans, any more than I'm using the Tudors or the Windsors for the English monarchy. Make something up and give it a Scottish sounding name. I do like the idea of an elven highlander lass with a claymore...<br><br>There could be an elven clan or two in Scotland, sure. There were elves in Britain even before the Roman hobgoblin invasion and the Norman elven conquests, just not in any huge numbers. Such a clan would have numbered a lot of half-elves over time (as an alternative to inbreeding), but the Norman invasion would have restored their elven numbers substantially. They could be high elves (standard elves) or wild elves (-2 Int instead of -2 Con, favoured class Sorcerer). Interestingly, since elves live for so long, they have much more detailed oral histories stretching back to the Roman era, with very long-held traditions. As Kimmy says, watch Brave - and Braveheart for that matter, neither is terribly historically accurate, but they'll give you the feel for the setting.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10827623#msg10827623">Quote from: Chulanowa on 24-12-2014, 09:55:57</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'm kind of lacking in inspiration. The fact that 3.5 has <em>fifty-three</em> base classes is surely not helping me any. And then there's my proclivity towards oddballs and "savage" races. <br><br>Hrm. <br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Do you have a feeling for the historical setting? If so, think about the various character archetypes one finds in the setting (naval officers, gentlemen and ladies of leisure, masters of the Industrial Revolution, criminals with adorable accents and slang...) and see what appeals to you there. Then, we can take that and give it a D&amp;D spin.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10827704#msg10827704">Quote from: Kimmy on 24-12-2014, 11:32:25</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Ah thank you! Titles is actually my weakest knowledge for the setting.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Titles are one of my favourite things in historical fiction. I love knowing why Robert's sister on <em>Downton Abbey</em> is Lady Rosamund, not Lady Painswick. I've been all over Wikipedia learning this stuff. :)<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">To be honest, I'd be happy to pay almost all my coin on a wardrobe - since I'll also be wearing jewelery. I imagine that would be fair. I have position and title - and really, I don't need a horde of adventuring gear. At least, not so far.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Yeah, werewolves are pretty self-sufficient. And the money you spend on nice clothes now will pale in comparison to what you spend on magic items later.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">One of my ambitions is to buy Mastercrafted Spidersilk armor from the Underdark books. Its an AC of 3 or 4, weighs 5lbs &amp; no penalties - if its mastercrafted. And what Lady would would have an 'off the rack' dress? Oh! These are traditionally worn like you would a dress - a skimpy silky thin Drow dress at that! So my goal is have *armor* crafted from this so I can wear my armor to balls &amp; such. It costs something like 750 or a 1,000 gold (plus mastercraft!) so it's going to be my first magic item. And I'll be ensuring it gets prestidigitation &amp; mend cast upon it after combat (if any of the mages want to earn favors or coin from Vittoria, these are two handy spells to learn!) so it's always looking just perfect! Later I'd look at some sort of enchantment to have it transform as I do or vanish into my wolf form so I'm not having to dress/undress all the time! Anyway, that's my goal. It's the lightest armor and the best Vittoria could ever get her hands on. But where in London can you find someone who milks monstrous spiders for their silk? Let alone someone who knows how to transform the sticky substance into a fine silk harder than steel! Total side quest material! :P</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I shall schedule a trip to the Underdark, then! You should have Vittoria start making inquiries about it, both high and low. She will have the prettiest armour at any ball!<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I imagine I can get something crafted with a light leather corset, so that it count as leather or even studded leather if it the corset was steel boned. Of course Vittoria will have to explore London to find the few select stores that provide such practical garments. Another side quest and still too costly for now. But in a level or two, we'll have the gold to finance one of these ideas.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Another fine idea. :) I'm sure someone will be able to find you a source for not-so-obvious armour.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>RubySlippers</strong> on <strong>24-12-2014, 14:17:09</strong>
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				I'm going to buy a used outdated courtiers like outfit, a few seasons out of date, with patching and the like be the fine example of low class nobility and should be able to get outfitted for a modest price and look properly dapper.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kckolbe</strong> on <strong>24-12-2014, 14:47:12</strong>
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				Okay, changed his sheet up slightly.&nbsp; I changed his apprentice from Spellcaster to Philosopher, his Wis from 10 to 8, and his Dex from 12 to 14.&nbsp; Also adjusted skills due to the apprentice rules.&nbsp; At level 2, I'll have him take a level of Rogue to round out his skills, giving him ranks in Perform for his eventual sermons, Use Magic Device, and the ability to wield a rapier, which is Halmyr's favored weapon.&nbsp; For languages I went with English (for free), French, Gaelic, Latin, and Spanish.&nbsp; Gaelic and Spanish I wasn't as sure on, but both were the closest languages to him.&nbsp; I figure that most arcane work would be in French or Latin.&nbsp; <br><br>Would Knowledge Devotion (Complete Champion) be acceptable as a fighter bonus feat?<br><br>For the level of Rogue, I planned on swapping out trapfinding for Antiquarian, which allows him to use Knowledge:religion to <em>identify</em> religious items.&nbsp; It also grants a "bonus" on appraise for religious items, but the bonus is based on Wis, which would be a penalty for him.&nbsp; I would also want to sub sneak attack for a fighter bonus feat, as per Unearthed Arcana.&nbsp; <br><br>The loss of caster level and class bonuses kind of sucks, but I think it fits "him" a lot better, and it's not like he's expected to be much of a fighter anyways.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kimmy</strong> on <strong>24-12-2014, 16:05:19</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I shall schedule a trip to the Underdark, then! You should have Vittoria start making inquiries about it, both high and low. She will have the prettiest armour at any ball!</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>If we're going to Underdark, I'm so buying a traditional Nightelf "dress" to use as my nighty. Just so I can scandalize my maid!<br><br>I don't suppose I can demand Magic Items from handsome boys whilst I'm being courted? Actually, if I did I bet you'd have some fiend give me a cursed item instead... Actually, I really like that plot idea. You totally should! Cursed items are fun - unless you use the silly ones in the D&amp;D books. Their so boring... Bring back the real curses - Your hair grows with every use! (Ok thats more of a manageable, possibly useful side effect.) Your 2 inches taller (or worse, shorter!), Your hair color changes (Try explaining it in court... Oh she's addicted to those cosmetic magics. I've heard shes actually uses magic to enhance her ... as well! She's all illusions...) - something fun! *spins* I rather like fun cursed items. :P
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>RubySlippers</strong> on <strong>24-12-2014, 17:46:40</strong>
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				I'm trying to figure out the cost of in good condition thrift used clothing I'm thinking one third the cost, for genteel clothing, since they tend not to wear out their clothes to death but fashions change enough to require getting rid of older outfits. Does that sound about right?
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>ShadowFox89</strong> on <strong>24-12-2014, 22:07:33</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10828040#msg10828040">Quote from: Kimmy on 24-12-2014, 16:05:19</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">If we're going to Underdark, I'm so buying a traditional Nightelf "dress" to use as my nighty. Just so I can scandalize my maid!<br><br>I don't suppose I can demand Magic Items from handsome boys whilst I'm being courted? Actually, if I did I bet you'd have some fiend give me a cursed item instead... Actually, I really like that plot idea. You totally should! Cursed items are fun - unless you use the silly ones in the D&amp;D books. Their so boring... Bring back the real curses - Your hair grows with every use! (Ok thats more of a manageable, possibly useful side effect.) Your 2 inches taller (or worse, shorter!), Your hair color changes (Try explaining it in court... Oh she's addicted to those cosmetic magics. I've heard shes actually uses magic to enhance her ... as well! She's all illusions...) - something fun! *spins* I rather like fun cursed items. :P<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>&nbsp;Belt of gender change.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>ShadowFox89</strong> on <strong>24-12-2014, 23:13:57</strong>
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				&nbsp;Am I correct in assuming that the point buy presented is merely a broken down version of the standard point buy?
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kimmy</strong> on <strong>24-12-2014, 23:28:38</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10828642#msg10828642">Quote from: ShadowFox89 on 24-12-2014, 22:07:33</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"> Belt of gender change.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Boring! now a belt of Body Swap is much more fun! Especially when your in the body without the belt...<br><br>Happy Holidays folks!
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>RubySlippers</strong> on <strong>24-12-2014, 23:55:39</strong>
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				That could fun swap the high born with my character in the scum of London society, well better placed scum.&nbsp; :D
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>ShadowFox89</strong> on <strong>25-12-2014, 00:40:33</strong>
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				&nbsp;Gonna use this to help get some ideas for a character: http://rpg.ashami.com/
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chulanowa</strong> on <strong>25-12-2014, 08:55:39</strong>
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				Hey Hopefox, if it wouldn't be too spoileriffic, could you offer any insight as to what you'll be having us do fir the first part of this? Any particular hooks or directions? Like if we're going to be up to our knees under bridges in the Thames looking for murder victims, that's a totally different thing from snooting around with the high society set as genteel guards for a garden party.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HopeFox</strong> on <strong>25-12-2014, 13:43:57</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10827945#msg10827945">Quote from: kckolbe on 24-12-2014, 14:47:12</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Okay, changed his sheet up slightly.&nbsp; I changed his apprentice from Spellcaster to Philosopher, his Wis from 10 to 8, and his Dex from 12 to 14.&nbsp; Also adjusted skills due to the apprentice rules.&nbsp; At level 2, I'll have him take a level of Rogue to round out his skills, giving him ranks in Perform for his eventual sermons, Use Magic Device, and the ability to wield a rapier, which is Halmyr's favored weapon.&nbsp; For languages I went with English (for free), French, Gaelic, Latin, and Spanish.&nbsp; Gaelic and Spanish I wasn't as sure on, but both were the closest languages to him.&nbsp; I figure that most arcane work would be in French or Latin.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Those languages are all appropriate, yes. The older dialects of Gaelic are often spoken by magical creatures in Britain, and a more modern dialect is still spoken in Ireland (you'd be able to understand all of these). The most important arcane language is Draconic, though. You might also want Celestial, Infernal and/or Abyssal.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">For the level of Rogue, I planned on swapping out trapfinding for Antiquarian, which allows him to use Knowledge:religion to <em>identify</em> religious items.&nbsp; It also grants a "bonus" on appraise for religious items, but the bonus is based on Wis, which would be a penalty for him.&nbsp; I would also want to sub sneak attack for a fighter bonus feat, as per Unearthed Arcana.&nbsp; <br><br>The loss of caster level and class bonuses kind of sucks, but I think it fits "him" a lot better, and it's not like he's expected to be much of a fighter anyways.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Skills are important! I do love the Antiquarian rogue variant, and it absolutely fits him. You can swap your sneak attack for a fighter bonus feat, but Knowledge Devotion isn't an option for that. A "bonus" is never negative, so your Wisdom won't influence your Appraise checks.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10828040#msg10828040">Quote from: Kimmy on 24-12-2014, 16:05:19</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">If we're going to Underdark, I'm so buying a traditional Nightelf "dress" to use as my nighty. Just so I can scandalize my maid!</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Absolutely! The Underdark is not a place for low level characters, mind you... unless you're there as part of a larger group, for diplomatic purposes, say. Hmm...<br><br>I think your lady's maid will be accurately described as "long-suffering". That reminds me - is your maid English or Italian? Human, hobgoblin, half-elf? I think she will be making some regular appearances.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I don't suppose I can demand Magic Items from handsome boys whilst I'm being courted? Actually, if I did I bet you'd have some fiend give me a cursed item instead... Actually, I really like that plot idea. You totally should! Cursed items are fun - unless you use the silly ones in the D&amp;D books. Their so boring... Bring back the real curses - Your hair grows with every use! (Ok thats more of a manageable, possibly useful side effect.) Your 2 inches taller (or worse, shorter!), Your hair color changes (Try explaining it in court... Oh she's addicted to those cosmetic magics. I've heard shes actually uses magic to enhance her ... as well! She's all illusions...) - something fun! *spins* I rather like fun cursed items. :P<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Heh heh heh... yes, you can demand anything you like from your suitors! There are some magic items that are of just the sort of value that they would make good courting gifts.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10828203#msg10828203">Quote from: RubySlippers on 24-12-2014, 17:46:40</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'm trying to figure out the cost of in good condition thrift used clothing I'm thinking one third the cost, for genteel clothing, since they tend not to wear out their clothes to death but fashions change enough to require getting rid of older outfits. Does that sound about right?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Yes, that sounds about right. £1 will get you a second-hand courtier's outfit that won't pass muster in high society, but will pass as very flashy and impressive among the lower classes, and even let you scrape by as "shabby but presentable" in middle class company. This would be something like a five-year-old dress or a thirty-year-old suit (men's fashions change so much more slowly).<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10828809#msg10828809">Quote from: ShadowFox89 on 24-12-2014, 23:13:57</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"> Am I correct in assuming that the point buy presented is merely a broken down version of the standard point buy?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>That's correct - I just wanted to list the numbers explicitly for anyone who doesn't have the rules to hand.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10830007#msg10830007">Quote from: Chulanowa on 25-12-2014, 08:55:39</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Hey Hopefox, if it wouldn't be too spoileriffic, could you offer any insight as to what you'll be having us do fir the first part of this? Any particular hooks or directions? Like if we're going to be up to our knees under bridges in the Thames looking for murder victims, that's a totally different thing from snooting around with the high society set as genteel guards for a garden party.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Well, I think the first session is going to start at a party, one which everyone will be able to attend in some capacity or other, so characters can meet up. There will probably be some investigation around town once the plot kicks off, although dredging the Thames isn't currently part of my plans.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kckolbe</strong> on <strong>25-12-2014, 13:55:43</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10830225#msg10830225">Quote from: HopeFox on 25-12-2014, 13:43:57</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Those languages are all appropriate, yes. The older dialects of Gaelic are often spoken by magical creatures in Britain, and a more modern dialect is still spoken in Ireland (you'd be able to understand all of these). The most important arcane language is Draconic, though. You might also want Celestial, Infernal and/or Abyssal.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I think I'll drop Spanish for Draconic, as that seems to suit him and I wasn't too keen on Spanish.&nbsp; I suppose I can drop French as well for Celestial.&nbsp; The rest...maybe down the road.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10830225#msg10830225">Quote from: HopeFox on 25-12-2014, 13:43:57</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Skills are important! I do love the Antiquarian rogue variant, and it absolutely fits him. You can swap your sneak attack for a fighter bonus feat, but Knowledge Devotion isn't an option for that. A "bonus" is never negative, so your Wisdom won't influence your Appraise checks.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>They are indeed.&nbsp; I am being a bit greedy when it comes to skills, and it is costing him quite a bit of use in combat.&nbsp; At level 4, his BAB will be +1.&nbsp; That's almost impressively bad.&nbsp; However, lots of genuinely useful and socially preferred skills and, just to be somewhat viable "on the road," a bonus to healing.&nbsp; As for the bonus feat, I'll find something else.&nbsp; He needs plenty of help in combat, so I'll have plenty of options there.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>RubySlippers</strong> on <strong>25-12-2014, 15:14:40</strong>
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				Historically French was a significant language though almost anybody who was anybody knew it thing of it as the common international language of the day, like English is in modern times, so its good to know if one travels to Russia for example if you know French odds are you can talk to people. If you know English good luck with that.<br><br>
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kckolbe</strong> on <strong>25-12-2014, 17:18:19</strong>
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				He may require a translator then, though any academic type should speak Latin.&nbsp; 
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Muse</strong> on <strong>25-12-2014, 22:56:54</strong>
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				&nbsp; Yeah, Latin will get you a lot of places in the western world.&nbsp; Friend of mine was able to ask directions from a priest in Rome when his Italian failed him, and he could have done the same thing any where in Europe, the US, or Latin America.&nbsp; <br><br>&nbsp; But French is bigger in this period.&nbsp; 
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>ShadowFox89</strong> on <strong>26-12-2014, 00:07:37</strong>
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				&nbsp;How are we doing starting wealth?
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HopeFox</strong> on <strong>26-12-2014, 00:11:54</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10830821#msg10830821">Quote from: Muse on 25-12-2014, 22:56:54</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">&nbsp; Yeah, Latin will get you a lot of places in the western world.&nbsp; Friend of mine was able to ask directions from a priest in Rome when his Italian failed him, and he could have done the same thing any where in Europe, the US, or Latin America.&nbsp; <br><br>&nbsp; But French is bigger in this period. <br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Yes, Latin and French are both fairly widespread in this period. English is on its way up with the rise of the British Empire, but it's not quite there yet.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10830917#msg10830917">Quote from: ShadowFox89 on 26-12-2014, 00:07:37</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"> How are we doing starting wealth?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>All characters start with £15 (150 gp). A Criminal mentor will give you an extra £10 starting wealth.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>ShadowFox89</strong> on <strong>26-12-2014, 00:22:09</strong>
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				&nbsp;I'm guessing a Highlander Swordsmaster would fall under soldier?<br><br>&nbsp;edit: Actually, how about an elven warrior-philosopher who teaches that the sword has a spirit of it's own and that one's way of fighting mimics their spirit? A bit outside the genre, but since we're introducing fantasy races anyway....
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HopeFox</strong> on <strong>26-12-2014, 01:42:59</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10830943#msg10830943">Quote from: ShadowFox89 on 26-12-2014, 00:22:09</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"> I'm guessing a Highlander Swordsmaster would fall under soldier?<br><br>&nbsp;edit: Actually, how about an elven warrior-philosopher who teaches that the sword has a spirit of it's own and that one's way of fighting mimics their spirit? A bit outside the genre, but since we're introducing fantasy races anyway....<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Either works! I don't doubt that there were some old Pictish or Scottish warriors who had a similar philosophy, it just wasn't particularly mainstream.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>ShadowFox89</strong> on <strong>26-12-2014, 02:31:23</strong>
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				&nbsp;Well, I know there we some old French, Italian, and German schools for swordfighting. Not fencing either, schools for how to stab someone in the most effective way with a claymore.<br><br>&nbsp;Gotta resist the urge to use a picture of The Greatest Scotsman of All Time as my character's mentor....
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HopeFox</strong> on <strong>26-12-2014, 04:57:40</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10831157#msg10831157">Quote from: ShadowFox89 on 26-12-2014, 02:31:23</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"> Well, I know there we some old French, Italian, and German schools for swordfighting. Not fencing either, schools for how to stab someone in the most effective way with a claymore.<br><br>&nbsp;Gotta resist the urge to use a picture of The Greatest Scotsman of All Time as my character's mentor....<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I actually quite like the idea of an old Pictish clan of wild elves, with their old traditions amidst the modernization of Scotland...
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>ShadowFox89</strong> on <strong>26-12-2014, 05:06:07</strong>
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				Pictish Wood Elves, actually. Expect to see something along the lines of "you still carry a blade and shield? In this day and age?" :P<br><br>&nbsp;edit: here's the most of a sheet, will finish tomorrow.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HopeFox</strong> on <strong>26-12-2014, 06:40:07</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10831458#msg10831458">Quote from: ShadowFox89 on 26-12-2014, 05:06:07</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Pictish Wood Elves, actually. Expect to see something along the lines of "you still carry a blade and shield? In this day and age?" :P</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Yeah, I can see that. :) Now, some people do still use medieval weapons to fight monsters - dragons respond better to a broadsword than a rapier, and a shield is a godsend against all sorts of critters - but swords and shields as a lifestyle choice is terribly backwards! Civilized men kill each other with rapiers and guns, don't you know?<br><br>Okay, I'm liking these guys. They probably spend an unfortunate amount of time killing each other, but if you can recruit them as mercenaries or monster hunters, they're wonderfully ferocious and effective.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">edit: here's the most of a sheet, will finish tomorrow.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I don't see a sheet. :) No rush, though.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>ShadowFox89</strong> on <strong>26-12-2014, 06:45:01</strong>
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				&nbsp;Sorry, meant to c/p something in.<br><br>&nbsp;And I imagine they are called in by the Queen and Country when a werewolf terrorizes Whitechapel or a dragon decides to nest in Big Ben. The clan isn't seen as civilized though, the nobility tolerates them only as long as they keep well to monster slaying. Seeing a wood elf at a ball would be something of a scandalous affair.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HopeFox</strong> on <strong>26-12-2014, 06:59:21</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10831609#msg10831609">Quote from: ShadowFox89 on 26-12-2014, 06:45:01</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">And I imagine they are called in by the Queen and Country when a werewolf terrorizes Whitechapel or a dragon decides to nest in Big Ben. The clan isn't seen as civilized though, the nobility tolerates them only as long as they keep well to monster slaying. Seeing a wood elf at a ball would be something of a scandalous affair.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Indeed! I do like this idea. "Yes, Lady McIntyre, the Duke of Cornwall is very grateful to you for killing that griffon. Yes, you still need to wear a shirt to the victory celebration. No, paint is not the same thing as a shirt."
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kimmy</strong> on <strong>26-12-2014, 07:34:49</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Absolutely! The Underdark is not a place for low level characters, mind you... unless you're there as part of a larger group, for diplomatic purposes, say. Hmm...<br><br>I think your lady's maid will be accurately described as "long-suffering". That reminds me - is your maid English or Italian? Human, hobgoblin, half-elf? I think she will be making some regular appearances.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I'm thinking someone beautiful but socially unacceptable. She will probably be English. She would be someone acceptable with a Werewolf charge - since she would have spent time chasing a puppy in the earlier years. Possibly someone who spent time with the druids - and thus isn't concerned about people turning into animals. I'm thinking half Wild-Elf or Dark-Elf? She would also influence Vittoria's choice of deity as well. The Elven Nature Dieties are a bunch that all seem well suited to Vittoria - though none really define or exemplify her. So following them as a general pantheon would be suitable. Fenmarel Mestarine (http://www.canonfire.com/wiki/index.php?title=Fenmarel_Mestarine) the Lone Wolf, teaching self reliance, camouflage and secrecy. Gadhelyn (http://www.canonfire.com/wiki/index.php?title=Gadhelyn) with his pleasureful ways and strong views on hunting seem appropriate and delightful. Hanali Celanil (http://www.canonfire.com/wiki/index.php?title=Hanali_Celanil) stories of love and romance would be beautiful bed time tales. Ferrix (http://www.canonfire.com/wiki/index.php?title=Ferrix) Playful but impossibly intelligent Weretigress, unwise, vain, loving, curious and ignorant in her cruelty. Her story also has strong ties of loyalty to her brother, for he was to be freed and made divine - but would only accept if his sister came with him. So very suited as Vittoria's favorite - even if she is a cat and Vittoria a wolf. Actually I like Ferrix so much I'm tempted to ask to make Vittoria a Were-Tigress! I can totally see Vittoria as a tigress! Alobal Lorfiril's (http://grpg.wikidot.com/deity:alobal-lorfiril) short term view of hedonistic pleasure, love and revelry resonates well in a young heart. Elebrin Liothiel (http://legendsandchronicles.pbworks.com/w/page/24562370/Elebrin%20Liothiel) is a nature deity of orchards and harvest - so worthy to venerate in the hopes of blessing the families lands.<br><br>A nice Wild-elf theme to put a few ties amongst the party? Relations perhaps?
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HopeFox</strong> on <strong>26-12-2014, 08:43:28</strong>
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				Hmm. Interesting! Maybe her maid could be half-wood elf, descended from one of the Pictish tribes, but with her elvish parent having married into mainstream human society. How does that sound to you and ShadowFox? It might be an interesting connection between your characters.<br><br>Those gods all sound pretty cool. I like the druidic influence on Vittoria's family and philosophy.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kckolbe</strong> on <strong>26-12-2014, 10:13:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Alobal Lorfiril seems like a good choice for Milton's recreational god.&nbsp; That might allow a minor connection.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kimmy</strong> on <strong>26-12-2014, 10:52:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I totally forgot about wood elves. ^_^ That sounds perfect - Hopefully ShadowFox likes the notion.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HopeFox</strong> on <strong>26-12-2014, 12:38:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Okay, so going over the PCs, we have:<br><br>Finalized(ish):<br><br>Muse: Mr Tam'Tamaril Coeur D'Or, grey elf naturalist<br>RubySlippers: Miss Emma Abbey, human legitimate small business owner<br>Kimmy: The Honourable Miss Vittoria Cerebus, human lady of society and definitely not a werewolf<br>kckolbe: The Reverend Doctor Milton Callow, human vicar of, I dunno, Wee Jas I guess?<br><br>In progress:<br><br>ShadowFox89: Wood elf Pictish claymore lady<br>Chulanowa: Still working on a concept<br><br>Am I missing anyone?<br><br>Once everyone has their characters ready, I can get started on the first storyline. No rush, though - I especially don't want to rush anyone at this time of year.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kckolbe</strong> on <strong>26-12-2014, 14:25:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Final sheet submitted.&nbsp; I bought his weapons and two clothing sets.&nbsp; Anything else he can buy as needed, right?&nbsp; And yes, Wee Jas would be the church he serves.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HopeFox</strong> on <strong>26-12-2014, 14:50:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10832097#msg10832097">Quote from: kckolbe on 26-12-2014, 14:25:47</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Final sheet submitted.&nbsp; I bought his weapons and two clothing sets.&nbsp; Anything else he can buy as needed, right?&nbsp; And yes, Wee Jas would be the church he serves.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Yes, most shopping can be conducted between adventures with no problems, at least for the low cost items you can currently afford.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>RubySlippers</strong> on <strong>26-12-2014, 15:00:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10831988#msg10831988">Quote from: HopeFox on 26-12-2014, 12:38:18</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Okay, so going over the PCs, we have:<br><br>Finalized(ish):<br><br>Muse: Mr Tam'Tamaril Coeur D'Or, grey elf naturalist<br>RubySlippers: Miss Emma Abbey, human legitimate small business owner<br>Kimmy: The Honourable Miss Vittoria Cerebus, human lady of society and definitely not a werewolf<br>kckolbe: The Reverend Doctor Milton Callow, human vicar of, I dunno, Wee Jas I guess?<br><br>In progress:<br><br>ShadowFox89: Wood elf Pictish claymore lady<br>Chulanowa: Still working on a concept<br><br>Am I missing anyone?<br><br>Once everyone has their characters ready, I can get started on the first storyline. No rush, though - I especially don't want to rush anyone at this time of year.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>My character is more properly a professional since she doesn't own a shop, yet. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>ShadowFox89</strong> on <strong>26-12-2014, 18:26:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=1081509<br><br>&nbsp;Here's the character sheet, still need to give her a name and all that other fluffy stuff.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HopeFox</strong> on <strong>26-12-2014, 22:58:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10832390#msg10832390">Quote from: ShadowFox89 on 26-12-2014, 18:26:47</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=1081509<br><br>&nbsp;Here's the character sheet, still need to give her a name and all that other fluffy stuff.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>She looks pretty good. Have you decided on some manoeuvers for her?<br><br>Is there a particular reason she uses a bastard sword rather than a greatsword? A Scottish claymore could reasonably be described using either weapon type - the length of the claymore varied throughout history and by personal preference. Also, you won't be able to use Tumble in scale mail.<br><br>I imagine her Knowledge skill is Knowledge (history), for her links to her ancient culture? Don't forget your Apprentice bonuses, including the two extra skill points.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>ShadowFox89</strong> on <strong>26-12-2014, 23:52:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				&nbsp;Tumble is for... well, you never know when you'll end up fighting naked :P<br><br>&nbsp;And bastard sword is more because one of the goals I have for her is getting her hands on Kamate.<br><br>&nbsp;Character isn't entirely finished, I tend to get distracted on things.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>RubySlippers</strong> on <strong>27-12-2014, 00:41:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I decided to focus on two schools to exploit one Enchantment - now what would be a good second school I'm leaning to one of these Conjuration (broad and powerful school) or Illusion (subtle magic of diversion and trickery) for the other one.<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HopeFox</strong> on <strong>27-12-2014, 02:24:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10832954#msg10832954">Quote from: ShadowFox89 on 26-12-2014, 23:52:16</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"> Tumble is for... well, you never know when you'll end up fighting naked :P</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Hopefully more often than not? :)<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">And bastard sword is more because one of the goals I have for her is getting her hands on Kamate.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>... well, I did say I wanted characters to have ambitions! The hobgoblins control Rome, though, so I hope you liked The Da Vinci Code...<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Character isn't entirely finished, I tend to get distracted on things.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>No problem. I don't want to rush people at this time of year.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kimmy</strong> on <strong>27-12-2014, 02:41:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Tomorrow I'll make sure anything we've discussed here is reflected in my character history/sheet. Otherwise I'm good to go I think.<br>*flops* Holidays can be over now right? Working is less exhausting!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>ShadowFox89</strong> on <strong>27-12-2014, 04:32:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10833303#msg10833303">Quote from: HopeFox on 27-12-2014, 02:24:03</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Hopefully more often than not? :)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>&nbsp;Possibly? She's not much of a talker, but I'm sure that there are guys in this period who like a woman that can lift them over their head and spin them like a chair.....
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kckolbe</strong> on <strong>27-12-2014, 04:43:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just to be up front, my char will be a tad useless at level 1.&nbsp; He can cast one cure per day and does about 0 damage.&nbsp; He's just a very good skill monkey, really.&nbsp; Starting at level 2 he gains some nice party buffs and a couple more spells, and at level 3 he becomes an acceptable, though still slightly sub-par healer, but with the ability to deliver heals from a safe distance.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>ShadowFox89</strong> on <strong>27-12-2014, 04:45:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				&nbsp;That's what you have my gal for! All Milton has to do is stand behind her and make sure her butt is healed :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kckolbe</strong> on <strong>27-12-2014, 04:48:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Very well!&nbsp; If that is what it takes he will pay the utmost attention to her butt.&nbsp; And again, the attack bonuses really do improve nicely.&nbsp; They are based on his knowledge skill bonuses, which are at +9 for level 1 and increase quickly.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>ShadowFox89</strong> on <strong>27-12-2014, 04:51:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I suppose the name Rose Rosach would be redundantly repeating, wouldn't it?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>RubySlippers</strong> on <strong>27-12-2014, 05:03:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10833681#msg10833681">Quote from: kckolbe on 27-12-2014, 04:43:25</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Just to be up front, my char will be a tad useless at level 1.&nbsp; He can cast one cure per day and does about 0 damage.&nbsp; He's just a very good skill monkey, really.&nbsp; Starting at level 2 he gains some nice party buffs and a couple more spells, and at level 3 he becomes an acceptable, though still slightly sub-par healer, but with the ability to deliver heals from a safe distance.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Not at all, picks up and holds in front of her as a living shield.&nbsp; &gt;:)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>ShadowFox89</strong> on <strong>27-12-2014, 05:23:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				&nbsp;So what is the overall idea for our little group? Troubleshooters for when nobles don't want to get their hands dirty?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>RubySlippers</strong> on <strong>27-12-2014, 05:55:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think its sandbox with some adventures suited to the player, my character is more a city person. <br><br>I have plans open a shop, get an imp familiar down the road and start her own guild. So need to make proper contacts, get money for a magical library for a guild and get things set-up so have much to do. Anyway her magical powers will lean to Enchantment its best used on humans and near human races without elf blood in them.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HopeFox</strong> on <strong>27-12-2014, 07:30:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10833709#msg10833709">Quote from: ShadowFox89 on 27-12-2014, 04:51:44</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I suppose the name Rose Rosach would be redundantly repeating, wouldn't it?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Well, "nan Rosach" appears to be a perfectly good Scottish clan name, and "Rose" follows the wood elf tradition of plant-related first names, so I think "Rose nan Rosach" would be a good name for a Scottish wood elf. It's up to you how you feel about the aesthetics, but I think adding the "nan" helps. Also, I think the "o" in "Rosach" is a short "o", so it's not as repetitive spoken as it looks.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=219999.msg10833769#msg10833769">Quote from: ShadowFox89 on 27-12-2014, 05:23:12</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"> So what is the overall idea for our little group? Troubleshooters for when nobles don't want to get their hands dirty?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I am aiming for more of a sandbox feel. Characters pursue their own lives, involving other PCs as much as they like but generally with their own goals. Every so often, circumstances will throw them together on some sort of jolly adventure.<br><br>Now, I imagine that after a while, the party might form some sort of structure amongst themselves and become known as a troubleshooting team of sorts. But there's no wealthy patron setting them up as a Charlie's Angels team, no.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chulanowa</strong> on <strong>27-12-2014, 11:24:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				well. Christmas and a birthday were certainly fun interruptions to my mulling over character ideas! Of which I now have <em>several</em>. Which is always sort of the inverse problem to writer's block, isn't it? <br><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">The Ideas</div><div class="spoiler_body"><strong>The Taverner:</strong><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Pic</div><div class="spoiler_body">(https://38.media.tumblr.com/2b479314895939e1ba1e9e5c9530f134/tumblr_nh40peOPIW1tk4029o5_1280.png)</div></div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Doesn't own the place, but is so ubiquitous that she might as well. Has a finger on the underworld, mostly as pertains to gambling and smuggling - who owns what, deals with who, etcetera. sort of a "saucy wench" in familiar company, but knows how to put on airs to mingle with others.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong>Race:</strong> Goblin (Air variant)<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong>Likely Class(es):</strong> Beguiler, Spellthief, Cleric (Olidammra)<br><br><strong>The Romantic:</strong><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Pic</div><div class="spoiler_body">(https://38.media.tumblr.com/13dd35493190bb9369cfa74c23631a86/tumblr_nh40peOPIW1tk4029o4_500.jpg)</div></div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The coldness of the "enlightenment" brought us the years of terror in France, and now a tyrant in that land. men have become cold and clinical, and the beauty of the world is being swallowed by slums and mills. Noble-born (though of bastard blood) she has embraced the German philosophies of <em>sturm und drang</em>, valuing passion and emotion more than cold rationalism.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong>Race:</strong> Half-orc (desert variant)<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong>Likely class(es):</strong> Bard, swashbuckler, Paladin (Freedom variant).<br><br><strong>The Tomocomo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomocomo):</strong><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Pic</div><div class="spoiler_body">(https://38.media.tumblr.com/5afd06c15eadb73c91f7bcbb5a8097fa/tumblr_nh8dvrR32I1tk4029o1_1280.jpg)</div></div> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;She's in England at the behest of her rulers, to serve as eyes and ears, as well as muscle to protect a formal diplomat from the far-off empire (Nepal? Manchu? Inka? Songhai?) that she calls home.&nbsp; Is smarter than others take her for, and plays up that fact, portraying herself as the silent foreigner, but is quick to action and take the lead when the situation demands it. <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong>Race:</strong> Something big and out-of-place; Warforged, Minotaur (Krynn), half-Giant, dragonborn, that sort of thing.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong>Likely Class(es):</strong> As above; Barbarian, Dragon Shaman, Shaman, Sohei, that sort of thing<br><br><strong>The Dock Rat:</strong><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Pic</div><div class="spoiler_body">(https://31.media.tumblr.com/89f3a715d3d0b6aff21efeace2d4f145/tumblr_nh40fdFdnl1tk4029o6_1280.jpg)</div></div> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Things were fine for the family years back, before the colonies went sour. Dad, well, he was a little too loud in his support for their rebellion, and he lost his business, then his ships, and finally drank himself to death, leaving a half-blooded daughter to fend for herself. and fend she did. Information sells, and someone always needs something taken from someone else; a book, a job, a life. You can get all sorts of things at the Thames docks, and she's the person you want to talk to for it.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong>Race:</strong> Human or half-elf<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong>Likely Class(es):</strong> Rogue, urban ranger or druid<br><br><strong>The Freedman:</strong> <br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Pic</div><div class="spoiler_body">(https://33.media.tumblr.com/2f359de6e7d45080adab5288953cacff/tumblr_nh408xZjqT1tk4029o9_1280.png)</div></div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;If it weren't for the English, he would still be in chains. Stolen from his home when he was a boy, chained in Haiti, and then imprisoned for the "crime" of fighting with his fellows for freedom. Returning to the land of his birth is an impossible dream, and there is no way back to Haiti. Now he wants to make an honest living in England, but all he has to offer are his arms and back.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong>Race:</strong> Human<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong>Likely Class(es):</strong> Fighter, Monk, Favored soul or cleric<br><br><strong>The Elven Revivalist:</strong><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Pic</div><div class="spoiler_body">(https://31.media.tumblr.com/f511886d6e6b60221410348525c0373f/tumblr_nh40peOPIW1tk4029o7_1280.jpg)</div></div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Despite being only half-blooded, she identifies most strongly with her elven heritage, seeing it as being in danger of being diluted into nothing (she's sort of proof of that, after all.) She uses her resources to promote "elvishness" where she can, learns and disseminates the history of her people, and otherwise seeks to preserve some measure of Elven "independence".<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong>Race:</strong> Half-Human Elf (DMG); could also be some variety of ordinary elf, of course.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong>Likely Class(es)Class:</strong> Cleric (Elhonna or some elf deity or another), bard, or ranger<br><br><strong>The Dilettante:</strong><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Pic</div><div class="spoiler_body">(https://38.media.tumblr.com/3af7a620d80265f0988fa739de504187/tumblr_nh40fdFdnl1tk4029o1_500.jpg)</div></div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Don't be fooled by his dress or his accent; he was born and raised in London. His <em>parents</em> are the foreigners, representatives of the crown of Sweden and the would-be Polish government, respectively. He's attended formal schooling. he's talked to at least one professor each from Cambridge and Oxford. he even spent a summer on a fishing boat (his father's idea.) Sort of the embodiment of the idle class, but hardly bound by tradition.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong>Race:</strong> Human, half-elf, or half-gnome (races of Ansalon. No, seriously it's a thing.)<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong>Likely Class(es):</strong> Bard, Factotum, Wizard<br><br><strong>The Foreign Syncretist:</strong><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Pic</div><div class="spoiler_body">(https://33.media.tumblr.com/5da306d2538bbe873d8261ec333f9702/tumblr_nh8jg2bpsD1tk4029o7_r1_1280.jpg)</div></div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;She's been curious bout far-off lands and strange peoples with their bizarre habits and primitive religions as long as she can remember. Her parents raised her to be thoughtful and inquisitive, to seek an enlightened state of learning whereby she can understand even the most backwards of places. Thanks to her people's (India? Africa? The Americas? The South Seas?) recent interaction with the English, she will have her chance to study, mingle, and maybe even win them over.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong>Race:</strong> Almost any non-alien nonhuman; halfling, kalashtar, spirit folk, etc.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong>Likely Class(es):</strong> Something psionic or an exotic spellcaster (spirit shaman, wu jen, etc)<br><br><strong>The Futurist:</strong><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Pic</div><div class="spoiler_body">(https://38.media.tumblr.com/14fa6b4c4bb4410445da1a92b1ba5647/tumblr_nh408xZjqT1tk4029o6_1280.jpg)</div></div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Progress is moving at an unprecedented rate. magic and technology are coming together on a level that would have been hard to anticipate just fifty years ago. While Goethe may be rejecting this advancement of the world, and Luddites retreating into their seedy hovels, she's at the forefront, exploring and examining ways to merge the two schools further, for the betterment of all. There is no division between the sciences and the disciplines of magic, save practice.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong>Race:</strong> Human, or one of the small races; gnome, halfling, goblin, kobold<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong>Likely Class(es):</strong> Artificer, Wizard (transmutation)</div></div><br><br>So... you see my logistical problem here? I like them all, and kind of want to make them all (ahhh, masochism). But I know I can't actually do that&nbsp; ;D 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>RubySlippers</strong> on <strong>27-12-2014, 12:17:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well a rogue Dock Rat could have the same criminal mentor as my character does, and with my characters magic make a formidable team. Or the Taverner maybe working as a cleric and fence.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HopeFox</strong> on <strong>27-12-2014, 12:52:33</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				That's... a lot of concepts! I really like them all!<br><br>I can't promise that all of the races and classes you mentioned are available, but we can definitely find something that suits whatever concept you settle on.<br><br>The taverner, dock rat and freedman are all nice lower-class concepts that would fit in well with Emma, and together with the wood elf lady, would set the party up for a nice even split of three classy characters and three not-so-classy characters. The others are all great concepts, and I know I'd be able to integrate them into the game, but those three would make for the simplest party integration. But they all do sound pretty awesome.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kckolbe</strong> on <strong>27-12-2014, 14:22:51</strong>
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				If it helps, I'll weigh in as well on which ones I'd like to see and why.&nbsp; I'll weigh in if it doesn't help as well.&nbsp; I just like feeling involved.<br><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Taverner</div><div class="spoiler_body"> Obviously stands out and is quite original, yet still just barely fits polite society.&nbsp; I think spellthief is a cool class and would be a delight for my character, as both our chars would be unconventional magic wielders.&nbsp; Additionally, as I level I should have plenty of low level spells, which you could steal beforehand to help you steal stronger ones.&nbsp; For flavor, we could have your char helping mine with combat, and mine helping yours with magic (as you'd eventually have your own spells.&nbsp; This is easily my favorite.&nbsp; As beguiler, trapfinder comes in handy, especially with a high search.&nbsp; Aside from that, nothing about it really calls to me for flavor or use.&nbsp; Plus, I pictured this char more as an Cha or Wis type.&nbsp; Maybe bard with that prestige class that lets you cast as a wizard?&nbsp; As for cleric, the stats make more sense, but I still think spellthief is a lot cooler.</div></div><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Futurist</div><div class="spoiler_body"> First off, if you go non-human with this one, I highly recommend golden halflings from Kingdoms of Kalamar.&nbsp; As with spellthief, artificers are very interesting wielders of magic, yet not entirely dependent upon it, making her versatile enough to contribute a lot.&nbsp; I feel like the personality isn't all of the way developed with her, but my char would certainly want to discuss magic with her.</div></div><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Elven Revivalist</div><div class="spoiler_body"> Admittedly, I saw this char as a gish, maybe a bladesinger (elven warrior wizard)?&nbsp; Basically, ranger/druid/wizard are the classes you most often see among elves, and it seems she would try to embrace one of them.&nbsp; I ruled out druid because I imagined her as a low Wis type...she's still learning who she is after all.&nbsp; Maybe ranger/wizard?&nbsp; I dunno.&nbsp; Her background seems wide open (hopefully her back door as well-sorry).&nbsp; Based on her dress she seems higher class but I am guessing that is her attempt to recapture elven grace and she is really quite coarse perhaps?</div></div>
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>HopeFox</strong> on <strong>30-12-2014, 09:17:34</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Hi, guys. I'm sorry to have to do this, but I'm withdrawing from all of my roleplaying activities online, as of this moment. I've found that rather than simply giving me a creative outlet for my downtime, it is diverting my energy and focus away from the things in my life that need to take higher priority - my family, my work and my health.<br><br>I have enjoyed playing with all of you, and I am sorry to cut things off so abruptly and with such expectations hanging. I got in over my head and made some bad decisions, and I need to fix things now rather than later. Nobody has done anything to precipitate this - it is entirely a result of problems in my own life.<br><br>I'm sorry about the game I was going to run and now cannot, and for all of the games that I'm now dropping. I hope you all continue to have fun, and I'm very grateful for the time we've had together.<br><br>Yours sincerely,<br><br>HopeFox
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				Title: <strong>Re: Pride and Prejudice and Dungeons and Dragons - OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kimmy</strong> on <strong>30-12-2014, 13:45:30</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				No! @dies@ Good luck getting things in order!
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