Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}
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				Title: <strong>Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>09-04-2015, 17:02:03</strong>
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				Thread for Out of Character stuff.<br><br>Roleplaying thread found here...<br>https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227120.0<br><br><br>Character Sheets found here...<br>https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227124.msg11148223#msg11148223<br><br><br>Campaign Info found here...<br>https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227271.0
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>09-04-2015, 17:04:00</strong>
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				Planting my flag!
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>09-04-2015, 17:06:59</strong>
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				o.O<br><br>(shrugs flag off my bum)<br><br>Hey!<br><br>Totally made me lose my train of thought!
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>09-04-2015, 17:07:16</strong>
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				*Waves*
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>09-04-2015, 17:10:59</strong>
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				Wooooops...hmmm...<br><br>*hands Angelic a kitty balloon*
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>09-04-2015, 17:15:03</strong>
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				So...would this be complete with Pathfinder sheets?&nbsp; or freeform?
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>09-04-2015, 17:19:12</strong>
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				A possible piccy (http://imageshack.com/a/img537/6969/QeMhYv.jpg) for my Pally/Sorc if I play her here.<br>
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>09-04-2015, 17:19:50</strong>
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				Pretty!
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>09-04-2015, 17:21:42</strong>
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				Right... before peeps get too impatient.<br><br>Game System:&nbsp; Pathfinder (with campaign house rules)<br>Setting:&nbsp; Original Setting (Neo Earth, its a lot like Earth, if you live here you should be fine)<br><br>Player Level:&nbsp; Low. <br>Magic Level:&nbsp; Low.&nbsp; Low level magic for low level characters, it's not all bad news though i have rules for low level magics so youre not stuck with expendable magics.<br><br>Premise<br>If you've read Jim Hine's books, that's the sort of feel i'm going to aspire fore.&nbsp; Light high fantasy, with the chance for romance thrown in.<br><br>Campaign will take place in the Euro Empire, which is roughly Europe on Neo Earth.&nbsp; The Order of the Rose are a group of talented unique women, selected by the queen.&nbsp; They are appointed to look out for her interest and to serve her pleasure.&nbsp; The Order of the Rose is limited to a dozen women, and so the Queen must choose it's members carefully.<br><br>Most are of noble birth of some sort, and ladies in their own right.&nbsp; Those that are not, are noble in deed, if not blood in her eyes and worthy to be in her order.&nbsp; These women are often known and referred to formally as 'Knights of the Rose', or informally as 'Roses'.<br><br>Roses historically operate alone, though small groups have been known to work together for particularly complex or difficult mission.<br><br>I am currently, looking for (3) and only three, players to help participate and develop this concept. <br><br>
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>09-04-2015, 17:23:19</strong>
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				What approach would players have open if they want to play male characters? Could they be working with the Order of the Rose?
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>09-04-2015, 17:23:41</strong>
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				If you want to play your Pally/Sorc, you may Amber.<br><br>I actually had three characters that i wanted to hand out for use for the campaign, but since you have history in this world, i can make an exception and allow you to play Abigail.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>09-04-2015, 17:25:16</strong>
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				Yea I don't mind playing either gender and this sounds like it could be a lot of fun
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>09-04-2015, 17:25:46</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11145452#msg11145452">Quote from: AmberStarfire on 09-04-2015, 17:23:19</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">What approach would players have open if they want to play male characters? Could they be working with the Order of the Rose?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>No.&nbsp; As noted in the past, my campaign always have a common thread/hook for a theme.&nbsp; Twilights were the requirement for human characters.&nbsp; &nbsp;The theme for this one, is female characters only.<br><br>I'm open to male players, but all of the queens roses are female.<br><br>Think of them as the Fantasy equivalent of Charles Angels?<br><br>
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>09-04-2015, 17:26:59</strong>
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				No Worries.&nbsp; I can play female.&nbsp; <br><br>So you said you had characters already developed?
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>09-04-2015, 17:27:33</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11145456#msg11145456">Quote from: DarkNevaeh on 09-04-2015, 17:25:16</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Yea I don't mind playing either gender and this sounds like it could be a lot of fun<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Need to warn and restate.<br><br>It s a low level campaign.<br><br>I made my last players start at level zero and work up to level one, sort of campaign.<br><br>So starting the players off here at level 3, is pretty high by comparison, but many would consider unabarably low and take a pass.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>09-04-2015, 17:28:36</strong>
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				lol its Pathfinder...I'm used to starting at Level 1.&nbsp; Its fine.&nbsp; I like the struggle
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>09-04-2015, 17:43:05</strong>
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				Abigail's Level 3 Sheet from Before (sorry for the coding)<br><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Character Sheet</div><div class="spoiler_body"><u><b>Character Sheet - Alterations for Level 3</b></u><br>6000XP needed for level 3.<br><br>At level 3:<br>- Gain one ability (Wisdom increased from 7 to 8, so modifier is -1 instead of -2).<br>- Gain 2 skill points (+1 int modifier, which is 0) for Paladin (Increased Heal by 1 and Ride by 1).<br>- Increase hit points (rolled a d10, added constitution modifier of +1. Rolled:<br>23:16, Today: Secret Roll: Abigail rolled 8 using 1d10+1 with rolls of 7. Hit points increase D10+1. <br>22 HP + 8 = 30HP.<br>- Gain 2 new powers (normally Lay on Hands - but she has this and Divine Grace. The latter added to her sheet).<br>- Increase Base Attack Bonus from +1 to +2 (done).<br><br><br><hr><b>Character Name:</b> Abigail Elysia Reinhardt<br><b>Race:</b> Human<br><b>Gender:</b> Female<br><b>Faith:</b> Sol<br><b>Level:</b> 3 (2/Paladin - Sacred Servant; 1/Sorceress)<br><b>Alignment:</b> Lawful good<br><b>Life Style:</b> Good 10/gp month <br><br><b>Hit points:</b> 16 + 2 Constitution + 3 Toughness + 1 (Favoured class) + 8 = 30 Hitpoints<br>&nbsp;<br><b>Base attack bonus:</b> +2<br><br>(Bonus for Divine Grace of +1 to saving throws)<br><b>Fort save:</b> +3 (level) + 1 (constitution level)<br><b>Will save:</b> +3 (level) - 1 (wisdom level)<br><b>Reflex save:</b> +1<br><br>&lt;brown&gt;&lt;cursive&gt;<b>Abilities:</b><br>Str 15 +2 mod (+2 Human) <br>Dex 12 +1 mod <br>Con 12 +1 mod <br><br>Int 10 +0 mod <br>Wis 08 -1 mod <br>Cha 13 +1 mod <br><br><b>Sorceress (Class Skills): (3pts spent)</b><br>Craft (Int) 1 (Bows)<br>Knowledge (arcana) (Int) 1<br>Spellcraft (Int) 1<br><br><b>Paladin: (Class Skills): (3pts spent)</b><br>Heal (Wis)&nbsp; 2<br>Knowledge (religion) (Int) 1<br>Ride (Dex) 2<br><br><b>Languages:</b><br>Human (Euro - Native)<br><br><b>Feats:</b><br>- (one for human) Toughness +3 Hit points<br>- (one for level 1) Extra Lay Hands ~ Lay Hands (+2/Day)<br>- (Boon of Feats; Torque Necklace) Word of Healing<br><br><b>(Pally Class Feature)</b><br>- Aura of good, Detect evil and Smite evil (x1/Day)<br>Lay Hands to heal d3 damage (x2/Day) (+ Extra Lay on Hands feat)<br>- (one for level 2) Divine Grace (use +1 Charisma bonus on saving throws)<br><br><b>(Sorc Class Feature)</b><br>- Bloodline, Cantrip, and Eschew materials<br>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/spell-lists-and-domains/spell-lists---sorcerer-and-wizard#TOC-1st-Level-Sorcerer-Wizard-Spells<br><br><b>Cantrips Known:</b><br>Light<br>Open-Close<br>Mage Hand<br>Detect Magic<br><br><b>1st Level Spells Known:</b><br>Comprehend Languages<br>Feather Fall<br><br><b>Starsoul Bloodline:</b><br>Bloodline Arcana ~ Whenever you cast an evocation spell, targets that fail their saves are dazzled by tiny sparkling starlights for 1 round per level of spell.<br><br><b>Bloodline Powers:</b><br>Minute Meteors Summon a rain of tiny meteorites as a standard action to fall in a 5' column, 30' high.&nbsp; Inflicts d4 points of damage + 1 per 2 sorc levels.&nbsp; A Ref save negates this damage.&nbsp; DC = 10 + 1/2 Sorc level + Cha Mod. = (DC 11)&nbsp; Useable (x3 + Cha Mod./day) = (x4/day)<br><br><b>Weapon and Armor Proficiency:</b> Paladins are proficient with all simple and martial weapons, with all types of armor (heavy, medium, and light), and with shields (except tower shields).&lt;/cursive&gt;&lt;/brown&gt;<br><br><b>RP and XP Points Awarded:</b><br>RP: Received for Gathering Storm Thread: 170real + 33rp<br>RP: Received for Winter Festival Extra Credit Thread: 316rp <br>RP: Received for Holiday thread, Morning Glory: 100xp<br>RP: Received for Escort Duty to the Sidhe: 650xp + 120rp<br><br><b>Equipment (originally 375g):</b><br>Cost of living - Average. 10gp/Adventure.<br>Cold weather gear: 8gp<br>Chain shirt: 100gp<br>Punching Dagger (@2gp each): 4gp<br>Longsword: 15gp<br>Morningstar: 8gp<br>Dagger x 2 (@2gp each): 4gp<br>Animal-Horse-Light (combat trained): 110gp<br>Clothing, Paladin (An explorer's outfit is 10gp, so this amount allocated)<br>Animal gear: bit and bridle: 2gp<br>Saddle (military): 20gp<br>Backpack: 2gp<br>Signet ring: 5gp<br>Waterskin: 1gp<br>Whistle, Signal: 0.8gp<br>Paper x 10 (@4sp each) = 4gp<br>Parchment x 5 (@2sp each) = 1gp<br>Ink 8gp (there is also vial, ink or potion for 1gp. Is there much difference?)<br>Ink pen 0.1gp<br>Sealing wax 1gp<br>Flint and steel 1gp<br>Total spent: 314.90gp<br>(375-314.90=60.10<br><br>+ 925sp awarded (Shadows of the North)<br>- 100sp lifestyle tax<br>- 35sp edible food (5sp a day w/discount x 7 days) in 'Gathering Storm'<br><br><b>Money remaining at the beginning of Gathering Storm:</b> 139.10gp<br>+ 260sp awarded (The Gathering Storm)<br>- 100sp lifestyle tax<br>- 35sp edible food (5sp a day w/discount x 7 days) in 'Escort Duty to the Sidhe'<br><b>Money remaining at the beginning of Escort Duty to the Sidhe:</b> 151.60gp<br>&lt;blue&gt;-75gp for prayer beads with magical effects <br>(<s>Greater bead of Sol</s>; Lesser beads of Luna, Kismet, <s>Aericel (Spent)</s> &amp; Creed)&lt;/blue&gt; See free items for 2nd bead of Creed received.<br>= 76.60gp<br><b>Money awarded in Downtime thread:</b> 700sp (equivalent of 70gp)<br><br><b>Money remaining at the beginning of Princess in Distress:</b> 146.60gp<br>- 10gp lifestyle tax<br>= 136.60gp<br><br><b>Magic Shoppe purchases:</b><br>Purchased from Magic Shoppe before Gathering Storm:<br>1) Potion of Healing (for 25gp) - Used up.<br><br>2) Potion charm necklace ~ This masterwork vial, hangs on a necklace and features an easy to access cap.&nbsp; The cap is a pop top that is easily realeased with a flick of the thumb allowing the contents to be used.&nbsp; When it is the only item worn around the necklace, the contents of the vial are easily accessed with a swift action.&nbsp; If the character is adorned with another necklace, the action time increased to a move action to access the contents of the vial.<br>(You may only have one of these in use at any given time else)<br>Cost ~ 10 sp (free with Potion of Healing)<br><br>Total cost: 25gp (of 30gp Magic Shoppe credit).<br>'Please Read' thread (Winter Festival/Bday present) 300gp Magic Shoppe Credit awarded<br>Magic shoppe credit remaining: 305gp<br><br><b>Items awarded during gameplay:</b><br>Received for Winter Festival Extra Credit Thread: Lesser prayer bead of Creed<br>Received for Holiday thread, Morning Glory: 1 Shaft (Shaft of light)<br>Received for Escort Duty to the Sidhe: MW Cold Iron Dagger (+1 hit) <br>Received Boon of Feats - Necklace Torque with Word of Healing spell.<br><br>&lt;quote Shards and Shafts of Light&gt;<br>Shards and shafts of light, are slender pieces of glass that have been dedicated to the morning lord.&nbsp; One end is pointed, the other is blunt.&nbsp; You may ready them as a weapon (with a move action or as part of a move if you have a +1 BAB)&nbsp; Once readied you may tap the blunt end to discharge the positive energy into a person.&nbsp; A shard will heal d4+1 damage, a shaft will heal d6+1 damage. Alternately they may be used as a weapon, to make a ranged touch attack,&nbsp; against the undead. Shards are treated as daggers and shafts may be treated as shortswords (or used as arrows/bolts).<br>Shafts do d6 (+d6+1 positive energy) damage ~ Range **&nbsp; - (weighs 1/2#)&lt;/quote&gt;<br><br>&lt;quote Prayer Beads&gt;<br>Each prayer bead is dedicated to a specific divinity, and provides a useful conduit to having prayers granted by the divinity the bead is dedicated to.&nbsp; Up to a dozen lesser beads and three greater beads may be strung together to form a prayer necklace.<br><br>Use of the beads, is considered a '<i>standard</i>' action and after one use the beads shatter/crumble to dust (<i>If the character is a follower of the divinity a successful Freverant Prayer or use of a channel will prevent the bead from being expended</i>).&nbsp; The beads must be worn, or in the characters hand to be used.&nbsp; When being considered for magical item limits, the prayer necklace is counted as either a necklace or an elective item.&lt;/quote&gt;</div></div>
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>09-04-2015, 17:45:43</strong>
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				I'm fond of starting at level one, but as Roses, youre suppose to be particularly talented and well trained so all roses will be 3rd level or there about.<br><br>I have a PDF from my last game, that was made after a year and then updated a year later... it's still about two years dated, but it's a good starting point for browsing on campaign specific stuff.<br><br>http://www.angelickitten.com/rpol/pdf/nw_v2.pdf<br><br>Dont let the size of the document bother you, it's meant to be a reference guide, and not to be read end to end, only as needed.&nbsp; Also keep in mind the document was intended for a different campaign, so much will need to be tweaked.<br><br>Characters start with 8 Ability points, and are presumed to have started at first level, so you get to add up to two points to your ability stats from going up two levels.<br><br>All characters have (2) traits, though one of them will need to be Knight of the Rose.&nbsp; Dont ask me what you get from it, i dont know yet, i'm making this up as i go.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>09-04-2015, 17:46:59</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11145503#msg11145503">Quote from: AmberStarfire on 09-04-2015, 17:43:05</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Abigail's Level 3 Sheet from Before (sorry for the coding)<br><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Character Sheet</div><div class="spoiler_body"><u><b>Character Sheet - Alterations for Level 3</b></u><br>6000XP needed for level 3.<br><br>At level 3:<br>- Gain one ability (Wisdom increased from 7 to 8, so modifier is -1 instead of -2).<br>- Gain 2 skill points (+1 int modifier, which is 0) for Paladin (Increased Heal by 1 and Ride by 1).<br>- Increase hit points (rolled a d10, added constitution modifier of +1. Rolled:<br>23:16, Today: Secret Roll: Abigail rolled 8 using 1d10+1 with rolls of 7. Hit points increase D10+1. <br>22 HP + 8 = 30HP.<br>- Gain 2 new powers (normally Lay on Hands - but she has this and Divine Grace. The latter added to her sheet).<br>- Increase Base Attack Bonus from +1 to +2 (done).<br><br><br><hr><b>Character Name:</b> Abigail Elysia Reinhardt<br><b>Race:</b> Human<br><b>Gender:</b> Female<br><b>Faith:</b> Sol<br><b>Level:</b> 3 (2/Paladin - Sacred Servant; 1/Sorceress)<br><b>Alignment:</b> Lawful good<br><b>Life Style:</b> Good 10/gp month <br><br><b>Hit points:</b> 16 + 2 Constitution + 3 Toughness + 1 (Favoured class) + 8 = 30 Hitpoints<br>&nbsp;<br><b>Base attack bonus:</b> +2<br><br>(Bonus for Divine Grace of +1 to saving throws)<br><b>Fort save:</b> +3 (level) + 1 (constitution level)<br><b>Will save:</b> +3 (level) - 1 (wisdom level)<br><b>Reflex save:</b> +1<br><br>&lt;brown&gt;&lt;cursive&gt;<b>Abilities:</b><br>Str 15 +2 mod (+2 Human) <br>Dex 12 +1 mod <br>Con 12 +1 mod <br><br>Int 10 +0 mod <br>Wis 08 -1 mod <br>Cha 13 +1 mod <br><br><b>Sorceress (Class Skills): (3pts spent)</b><br>Craft (Int) 1 (Bows)<br>Knowledge (arcana) (Int) 1<br>Spellcraft (Int) 1<br><br><b>Paladin: (Class Skills): (3pts spent)</b><br>Heal (Wis)&nbsp; 2<br>Knowledge (religion) (Int) 1<br>Ride (Dex) 2<br><br><b>Languages:</b><br>Human (Euro - Native)<br><br><b>Feats:</b><br>- (one for human) Toughness +3 Hit points<br>- (one for level 1) Extra Lay Hands ~ Lay Hands (+2/Day)<br>- (Boon of Feats; Torque Necklace) Word of Healing<br><br><b>(Pally Class Feature)</b><br>- Aura of good, Detect evil and Smite evil (x1/Day)<br>Lay Hands to heal d3 damage (x2/Day) (+ Extra Lay on Hands feat)<br>- (one for level 2) Divine Grace (use +1 Charisma bonus on saving throws)<br><br><b>(Sorc Class Feature)</b><br>- Bloodline, Cantrip, and Eschew materials<br>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/spell-lists-and-domains/spell-lists---sorcerer-and-wizard#TOC-1st-Level-Sorcerer-Wizard-Spells<br><br><b>Cantrips Known:</b><br>Light<br>Open-Close<br>Mage Hand<br>Detect Magic<br><br><b>1st Level Spells Known:</b><br>Comprehend Languages<br>Feather Fall<br><br><b>Starsoul Bloodline:</b><br>Bloodline Arcana ~ Whenever you cast an evocation spell, targets that fail their saves are dazzled by tiny sparkling starlights for 1 round per level of spell.<br><br><b>Bloodline Powers:</b><br>Minute Meteors Summon a rain of tiny meteorites as a standard action to fall in a 5' column, 30' high.&nbsp; Inflicts d4 points of damage + 1 per 2 sorc levels.&nbsp; A Ref save negates this damage.&nbsp; DC = 10 + 1/2 Sorc level + Cha Mod. = (DC 11)&nbsp; Useable (x3 + Cha Mod./day) = (x4/day)<br><br><b>Weapon and Armor Proficiency:</b> Paladins are proficient with all simple and martial weapons, with all types of armor (heavy, medium, and light), and with shields (except tower shields).&lt;/cursive&gt;&lt;/brown&gt;<br><br><b>RP and XP Points Awarded:</b><br>RP: Received for Gathering Storm Thread: 170real + 33rp<br>RP: Received for Winter Festival Extra Credit Thread: 316rp <br>RP: Received for Holiday thread, Morning Glory: 100xp<br>RP: Received for Escort Duty to the Sidhe: 650xp + 120rp<br><br><b>Equipment (originally 375g):</b><br>Cost of living - Average. 10gp/Adventure.<br>Cold weather gear: 8gp<br>Chain shirt: 100gp<br>Punching Dagger (@2gp each): 4gp<br>Longsword: 15gp<br>Morningstar: 8gp<br>Dagger x 2 (@2gp each): 4gp<br>Animal-Horse-Light (combat trained): 110gp<br>Clothing, Paladin (An explorer's outfit is 10gp, so this amount allocated)<br>Animal gear: bit and bridle: 2gp<br>Saddle (military): 20gp<br>Backpack: 2gp<br>Signet ring: 5gp<br>Waterskin: 1gp<br>Whistle, Signal: 0.8gp<br>Paper x 10 (@4sp each) = 4gp<br>Parchment x 5 (@2sp each) = 1gp<br>Ink 8gp (there is also vial, ink or potion for 1gp. Is there much difference?)<br>Ink pen 0.1gp<br>Sealing wax 1gp<br>Flint and steel 1gp<br>Total spent: 314.90gp<br>(375-314.90=60.10<br><br>+ 925sp awarded (Shadows of the North)<br>- 100sp lifestyle tax<br>- 35sp edible food (5sp a day w/discount x 7 days) in 'Gathering Storm'<br><br><b>Money remaining at the beginning of Gathering Storm:</b> 139.10gp<br>+ 260sp awarded (The Gathering Storm)<br>- 100sp lifestyle tax<br>- 35sp edible food (5sp a day w/discount x 7 days) in 'Escort Duty to the Sidhe'<br><b>Money remaining at the beginning of Escort Duty to the Sidhe:</b> 151.60gp<br>&lt;blue&gt;-75gp for prayer beads with magical effects <br>(<s>Greater bead of Sol</s>; Lesser beads of Luna, Kismet, <s>Aericel (Spent)</s> &amp; Creed)&lt;/blue&gt; See free items for 2nd bead of Creed received.<br>= 76.60gp<br><b>Money awarded in Downtime thread:</b> 700sp (equivalent of 70gp)<br><br><b>Money remaining at the beginning of Princess in Distress:</b> 146.60gp<br>- 10gp lifestyle tax<br>= 136.60gp<br><br><b>Magic Shoppe purchases:</b><br>Purchased from Magic Shoppe before Gathering Storm:<br>1) Potion of Healing (for 25gp) - Used up.<br><br>2) Potion charm necklace ~ This masterwork vial, hangs on a necklace and features an easy to access cap.&nbsp; The cap is a pop top that is easily realeased with a flick of the thumb allowing the contents to be used.&nbsp; When it is the only item worn around the necklace, the contents of the vial are easily accessed with a swift action.&nbsp; If the character is adorned with another necklace, the action time increased to a move action to access the contents of the vial.<br>(You may only have one of these in use at any given time else)<br>Cost ~ 10 sp (free with Potion of Healing)<br><br>Total cost: 25gp (of 30gp Magic Shoppe credit).<br>'Please Read' thread (Winter Festival/Bday present) 300gp Magic Shoppe Credit awarded<br>Magic shoppe credit remaining: 305gp<br><br><b>Items awarded during gameplay:</b><br>Received for Winter Festival Extra Credit Thread: Lesser prayer bead of Creed<br>Received for Holiday thread, Morning Glory: 1 Shaft (Shaft of light)<br>Received for Escort Duty to the Sidhe: MW Cold Iron Dagger (+1 hit) <br>Received Boon of Feats - Necklace Torque with Word of Healing spell.<br><br>&lt;quote Shards and Shafts of Light&gt;<br>Shards and shafts of light, are slender pieces of glass that have been dedicated to the morning lord.&nbsp; One end is pointed, the other is blunt.&nbsp; You may ready them as a weapon (with a move action or as part of a move if you have a +1 BAB)&nbsp; Once readied you may tap the blunt end to discharge the positive energy into a person.&nbsp; A shard will heal d4+1 damage, a shaft will heal d6+1 damage. Alternately they may be used as a weapon, to make a ranged touch attack,&nbsp; against the undead. Shards are treated as daggers and shafts may be treated as shortswords (or used as arrows/bolts).<br>Shafts do d6 (+d6+1 positive energy) damage ~ Range **&nbsp; - (weighs 1/2#)&lt;/quote&gt;<br><br>&lt;quote Prayer Beads&gt;<br>Each prayer bead is dedicated to a specific divinity, and provides a useful conduit to having prayers granted by the divinity the bead is dedicated to.&nbsp; Up to a dozen lesser beads and three greater beads may be strung together to form a prayer necklace.<br><br>Use of the beads, is considered a '<i>standard</i>' action and after one use the beads shatter/crumble to dust (<i>If the character is a follower of the divinity a successful Freverant Prayer or use of a channel will prevent the bead from being expended</i>).&nbsp; The beads must be worn, or in the characters hand to be used.&nbsp; When being considered for magical item limits, the prayer necklace is counted as either a necklace or an elective item.&lt;/quote&gt;</div></div></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Will sift stuff out, and post an 'adjusted' character sheet with what you have listed.&nbsp; I may tweak her a little bit for the new setting.&nbsp; Typing up a rp post for the campaign then.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>09-04-2015, 17:47:26</strong>
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				Cool. That sounds good to me.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>09-04-2015, 18:18:01</strong>
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				If you have a concept to try, run it by me Dark.<br><br>I tend to run things quick and loose with light roleplaying while character sheets are being made.<br><br>If i approve of your concept we can go straight to roleplaying while i muddle over details of the character.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>09-04-2015, 18:19:39</strong>
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				Roleplaying thread started.<br><br>All my players (all two of you) should bookmark it, and watch for updates.<br><br>https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227120.0
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>09-04-2015, 18:47:25</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11145591#msg11145591">Quote from: Angelic Kitten on 09-04-2015, 18:19:39</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Roleplaying thread started.<br><br>All my players (all two of you) should bookmark it, and watch for updates.<br><br>https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227120.0<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I've bookmarked it. Thanks AK.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>09-04-2015, 22:51:02</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Quick Question...<br><br>Are we talking all Paladin based characters?<br>
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>09-04-2015, 23:12:31</strong>
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				No.<br><br>Abigail is a carry over from the original campaign.<br><br>originally the three characters i was going to hand out were...<br><br>An Human ~ Avatar&nbsp; (campaign class)<br><br>An 1/2 Human ~ Medium (campaign class)/ 1 Cleric<br><br>An Elven ~ Sorceress (campaign Bloodline)<br><br>If you have an interest in play any of the above, then i can just hand you one of the characters that i had planned to use.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>09-04-2015, 23:20:01</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Can I see the Avatar?
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 00:24:33</strong>
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				She's actually was the only human planned, she's a Franc, which is Neo Earth version of French, so you get to use french words, and culture references.&nbsp; The french are the naval power in this world.<br><br>The class details are...<br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Avatar Class</div><div class="spoiler_body"><br><span class="bbc_u"><strong>Avatar</strong></span><br>BAB +.75 per level<br><br>Save Throw<br>Fort = Good + 1/2 per level<br>Ref. = Poor + 1/3 per level<br>Will = Good + 1/2 per level<br><br>Hit Points 8 / 5 / 3<br><br>Base Starting Gold 140 gp<br><hr><br>The Avatar is a devout student of Theology.&nbsp; The study of the divine Pantheon has widened their appreciation for the various aspects and spheres of influences of each divinity.<br><br>Alignment:&nbsp; Any&nbsp; {may affect availability of domains}<br>Weapon and Armor Proficiency<br>Proficient with Light armor (no shield)<br>Proficient with Club, Heavy Mace, Light Mace, Quarterstaff and Sling.<br>Class Skills:&nbsp; Appraise, Craft, Diplomacy, Heal, Knowledge (all), Linguistics, Profession, Sense Motive, and Spellcraft.<br>Skills per level 4+Int modifier<br><br>Spells per Day<br><table class="bbc_table"><tbody><tr><td>Level</td><td>Orison</td><td>1st</td><td>2nd</td><td>3rd</td><td>4td</td></tr><tr><td> 1 </td><td> 2 </td><td> 0+1 </td><td> - </td><td> - </td><td> - </td></tr><tr><td> 2 </td><td> 2 </td><td> 0+2 </td><td> - </td><td> - </td><td> - </td></tr><tr><td> 3 </td><td> 3 </td><td> 1+2 </td><td> 0+1 </td><td> - </td><td> - </td></tr><tr><td> 4 </td><td> 3 </td><td> 1+3 </td><td> 0+2 </td><td> - </td><td> - </td></tr><tr><td> 5 </td><td> 4 </td><td> 1+3 </td><td> 1+2 </td><td> 0+1 </td><td> - </td></tr><tr><td> 6 </td><td> 4 </td><td> 1+3 </td><td> 1+3 </td><td> 0+2 </td><td> - </td></tr><tr><td> 7 </td><td> 4 </td><td> 1+4 </td><td> 1+3 </td><td> 1+2</td><td> 0+1 </td></tr></tbody></table><br><br>Versatile Channeler, at 3rd Level may Channel Positive and Negative Energy both at 2 levels lower effectiveness. {1 + Charisma Modifier/Day}<br><br>Domain Spheres 'Known' = 2 + Class Level + '<span class="bbc_u">Ranks</span>' of ks:Religion<br>Domain Spheres 'Active' = 2 + Number of 1st Level spells per day (Domain spell selection limited to Active Domains)<br><br>Domains selected evenly from all divinities.&nbsp; (<em>You must have one domain from each divinity before you may select a second domain from the same divinity.</em>)</div></div><br>It's different.&nbsp; It was still in Beta play testing at the time.&nbsp; All three characters actually had aspects that i wanted to test out from the old campaign.&nbsp; The theory was, that Oracles evidently were empowered by more than one divinity, so evidently it wasnt impossible to get the blessing and empowerment of more than one divine power.&nbsp; So Avatar's are theological scholars that study the divine and worship them all, or at least respect them all.&nbsp; So while their 'normal' spell selection is limited, they get extra domains, and domain spells to make up for it.<br><br><br>Mediums were possessed by spirts that boosted their stats.<br><br>and... <br><br>I wanted to test the introduction of Psionics into the campaign as a Bloodline.<br><br>All experimental stuff that i was tinkering with.&nbsp; Since Abigail is actually a Sorceress i might tweak her and give her the Psionic bloodline to try out.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 01:01:22</strong>
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				What's the campaign bloodline on the sorceress?
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 01:05:03</strong>
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				A non-evil Drow, refugee, who as the Psionic Bloodline.&nbsp; I'd have to go dig them up.&nbsp; As noted, i was contemplating giving that bloodline to Abigail to use.<br><br>I wanted to include psionics into the campaign, but i didnt want to invent a class for it or make something over powered , or specific game mechanics for it.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 01:06:00</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				I kind of like her starsoul bloodline, if I can keep that one instead?
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 01:07:49</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Sure, if you like.<br><br>Slowly sifting through your character sheet, you of all people know how much of a whim decision it was to start the campaign, so i'm seriously off my normal prepared curve.<br><br>All my campaign notes are also on RPOL.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 01:11:14</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				If you want to shift them over, I can give you a link to a good place to put them, but they'll be visible to anyone who reads them.<br><br>It's also possible to PM them to yourself on here.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 01:12:38</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Cut and paste for...<br><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Medium</div><div class="spoiler_body">Medium<br>BAB +.75<br><br>Save Throw<br>Fort = Poor + 1/3 per level<br>Ref. = Poor + 1/3 per level<br>Will = Good + 1/2 per level<br><br>Hit Points 8 / 5 / 3<br><br>Base Starting Gold 70 gp<br><br><br><br>The Medium is an arcane caster that has made the study of the planes, and the outsiders that wander them their lifes work.&nbsp; This study has led the medium to forming a close bond with outsiders known as Neodon which are capable of possessing the Medium's body, fusing their essence and sharing their abilities with the Medium.<br><br>Class skills ~ (As summoner)<br>Class Features<br>Weapon and Armor Proficiency ~ (As summoner)<br>Spells ~ (As summoner)<br>Cantrips ~ (As summoner)<br>Planar Knowledge ~ A medium may make unskilled check for ks: Planes and adds half his class level to the roll.<br><br>Neodon Possession<br>The Medium allows the essence of a powerful outsider, known as the Neodon, to possess their body, melding the two life forces together.&nbsp; The Neodon will appear as a physical manifestation, appearing around the medium as a translucent image.&nbsp; The shared body of the Medium while fused, perceives through the Neodolon's senses, and speaks through the Neodon's voice.<br><br>While possessed, the Medium uses the Neodon's Physical (Str, Dex, Con) ability but maintain his own mental scores (Int, Wis and Cha).&nbsp; The Medium gains the Neodon's Temporary Hit points.&nbsp; When these hit points reach 0 the Neodon is dispeled and sent back to it's home plane (per Eidolon rules).<br><br>The medium gains the Neodon's base attack, armor, natural armor bonus, and modifiers to ability score.&nbsp; The medium also gains access to the Neodolon's special abilities and Evolutions.&nbsp; The medium is still limited to the Neodolon's maximum number of natural attacks.<br><br>The medium possession by the Neodon is a standard action, and maintains the possession with the Neodolon as a free action.&nbsp; The Medium may fuse with the Neodon for a number of rounds each day equal to 4 + his Charisma modifier.&nbsp; At each level after 1st, they gain 2 additional lrounds each day.<br><br>(Based on the Bardic Performance ability for game balance)<br><br>Fused Link<br>When ever the Neodolon's temporary hitpoints would be reduced to zero, the medium may, as a free action sacrafice his own hit points to prevent the Neodon from being banished and sent back to it's home plane.<br><br>Shielded Meld<br>At 4th level, whenever the medium is possessed by their Neodon, he gains +2 shield bonus to his Armor Class and a +2 circumstance bonus on his saving throws.<br><br><br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br><br>A Neodolon is similiar to an Biped Eidolon, except as noted...<br>d8 instead of d10 for Hit Dice (5 hit points a level, plus Con bonus)<br>Base Attack ~ As Eidolon<br>Save throws as Biped Eidolon<br>No Skills or Feats<br>Armor as Eidolon<br>Str/Dex Bonus as Eidolon (each +1 = +2 to ability score bonus)<br>Evolution Poll as Eidolon<br>Max Attacks as Eidolon<br>Lowlight Vision, instead of Darkvision<br>Unarmed Attack (d3) or Weapon<br>Free Evolutions are limbs (arms), limbs (legs), Weapon Training (All Simple)<br>Ability Scores Bonus Str +6 (max 16)/ Dex +2 (max 12)/ Con +3 (max 13)<br><br><br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>The Neodolon counts as a Eidolon for the purposes of Feats.<br><br>The Medium may also select<br>Extra Possession, allowing the medium to be possesed for 6 additional rounds per day<br><br>Lingering Possession, the effects of the neodolon lingers for 2 rounds after you end the possession.</div></div><br>and<br><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Mentalist</div><div class="spoiler_body">Mentalist&nbsp; (Sorcerer Archetype)<br>BAB +.5 per level<br><br>Save Throw<br>Fort = Poor + 1/3 per level<br>Ref. = Poor + 1/3 per level<br>Will = Good + 1/2 per level<br><br>Hit Points 6 / 4 / 2<br><br>Base Starting Gold 70 gp<br><br>Psionic Pool (Su):&nbsp; At 1st level, the Mentalist gains a reservoir of mental energy that he can draw upon to engage in Mental Combat.&nbsp; This Psionic pool has a number of points equal to their Half Mentalist level (minimum 1) + Cha. modifier.&nbsp; The Psionic pool refreshes once per day after a night of rest.&nbsp; Psionic Pool replaces Bloodline.<br><br>Mental Combat<br>Casting Time 1 standard action<br>Components None<br>Range close (25' +5'/2 levels)<br>Effect One of the target's mental abilities is inflicted with mental damage.<br>Duration instantaneous<br>Saving Throw Willpower for half damage; Spell Resistance no.<br><br>Base Damage per Psi point = 1/2 Mentalist Level (min. 1) + Mentalist Charisma Modifier.<br>Max. Psi point expended per attack = Charisma Modifier (min. 1)<br><br>Actual Damage = (Base Damage x Psi Points Expended) - Target mental modifier<br><br>(DC) of save throw = 10 + 1/2 Mentalist Level + Mentalist Charisma Modifier<br><br>Target is allowed a Will Power save throw to reduce the damage by 1/2.<br><br><br>ie.&nbsp; Maximum damage a 3rd Level Mentalist with a +3 Charisma modifier is attacking a Wizards Intelligence with +3 Int Modifier.<br><br><br>Base Damage = 1 + 3 per Psi point<br>Max Psi allowed for attack = 3<br><br>Actual Damage = (4 x 3) -3 = 9 points of Intelligence damage<br><br>Wizard is allowed a Will Power Save (DC 14) to reduce the damage by half to four damage.<br><br>After 24 hours, the Wizard is allowed another Will Power Save to remove the damage inflicted (If the roll is failed, the effects linger)</div></div><br><br>These are old cut and paste stuff of what i had.&nbsp; It should be noted, that i never allowed Summoners as a class, i considered them broken.&nbsp; Though i have allowed fire arms into the game, which are considered exotic weapons and not widely available, or even known.&nbsp; The dwarves seem to have the corner on the market, who trade with the Francs, so the Francs actually have a bit of a technological edge on the Euro Empire.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 01:14:06</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11146731#msg11146731">Quote from: AmberStarfire on 10-04-2015, 01:11:14</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">If you want to shift them over, I can give you a link to a good place to put them, but they'll be visible to anyone who reads them.<br><br>It's also possible to PM them to yourself on here.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I was going to use the first post of the character thread for campaign storage.<br><br>Use the end of the character thread for doctor's notes.<br><br>Since space seems to be limited and shared here i didnt want to spam stuff.<br><br>(Offline a bit to watch DVD with family so... be good), i did put a RP post up for Abigail, so feel free to answer it anytime, mostly going through the paces of getting the queen to get you into the order.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 01:15:55</strong>
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				Ok. This is the world building forum where people tend to store stuff (either new worlds they're building or game stuff):<br><br>https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?board=517.0
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 01:45:22</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Looks like my library at RPOL.<br><br>I would move my stuff over, but it's all formatted for RPOL.<br>
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 01:50:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				btw.<br><br>Dont feel you HAVE to play these characters Dark, I can use that as NPC Roses, or assign them to future players.<br><br>YOu also dont HAVE to play humans, I do make use of the advance race books, while i dont use it 'as is', i do use elements of it for the campaign. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 02:04:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11146813#msg11146813">Quote from: Angelic Kitten on 10-04-2015, 01:45:22</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Looks like my library at RPOL.<br><br>I would move my stuff over, but it's all formatted for RPOL.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>You could do a find and replace for certain code snippets for instance find &lt;td&gt; and replace with <div class="codeheader">Code: <a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="return smfSelectText(this);" class="codeoperation">[Select]</a></div><pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"><code class="bbc_code"> [td] </code></pre> and it should be cool.<br><br>Even replacing &lt; with [ and &gt; with ] should solve the table stuff.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 03:10:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I did that for the class stuff I have a lot of stuff in rpol code though.&nbsp; I think it should be okay as is for now.<br><br>Thanks for info though
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 03:12:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ranger Archtype Divine Tracker...<br><br>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/ranger/archetypes/paizo---ranger-archetypes/divine-tracker<br><br>Viable?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 03:26:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Don't own or use advance classes I would need time to look it over more carefully.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 03:27:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				No worries...its basically the same thing with just certain class features changed
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 03:35:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm not opposed.&nbsp; After review it looks mostly like rp fluff for the most part.<br><br>Which divinity were you going to use?<br><br>Pitch me your concept.&nbsp; I'm leaning toward allowing the class.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 05:05:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				So...meet Devonayes Cantana of House Cantana.&nbsp; A girl of noble birth from the country of (whatever Neo Spain is), Devonayes, called Devoni or Dev by her friends, was a slight wild child.&nbsp; She enjoyed being out and about, exploring and learning about the way things moved in the wilderness around her.&nbsp; She would sneak out at night and climb trees and simply enjoy the outside world...<br><br>...that's where she first learned that the world was not all bright and shiny.&nbsp; It was full of dangers...such as the wolves that stalked her through the woods that night.&nbsp; She ran for her life but they were close and nipping at her heels.&nbsp; She had ventured too far into the woods and had encroached on their territory by accident.&nbsp; As she ran, she tripped over a root and tumbled down a hill.&nbsp; The wolves were stalking their prey and were close, one leaping to pounce on her...as a whistle in the air was heard and arrows flew into the members of the wolf pack.&nbsp; Devoni had been saved by a band of elven Rangers who protected the woods.&nbsp; They brought her home safe and sound and she was forbidden from going out into the woods...but that didn't stop her.&nbsp; Instead, she sought out the band and convinced them to teach her their ways.&nbsp; For a couple of years, she would find them and learn from them: how to hunt and track...and how to pray.&nbsp; They were in the service of Aericel, the Lord of Storms and they used their gifts to hunt down what their deity demanded.&nbsp; They were in the woods waiting for their next task and they taught Devoni about this god as well.<br><br>Devoni would leave home and begin to travel at 19, making her own personal pilgrimage across the countries to visit various Aericel temples to hopefully gain his favor so that she could better help the world.&nbsp; She learned from the elves that humans ignored the pain of the world.&nbsp; Dev wanted to be different.&nbsp; She wanted to gain her deity's favor and use her abilities to help heal the world, help bring the world to a better future.&nbsp; During her pilgrimage, she was chosen, not only by her deity, but to become part of the Order of the Rose, a knighthood that would allow her to do what she intended: give the world a better future.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 13:38:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				We can work with this.<br><br>Spain and Italy are actually part of the Euro Empire, and were over run by the Blackbloods and left in ruins in the last campaign.<br><br>The players happily achieved their goal and 'rebooted' existence to avoid the unhappy fate so i have zero problems including them both as new places to exist and explore.&nbsp; They would be considered part of the Euro Empire, but countries in their own right with Kings of their own.<br><br>I suppose Human (Spanish) and Human (Italian) will have to be added to the list along with Human (Nord).&nbsp; Can keep most of your history, though the Queen selects who serves her in the Order of the Rose, and since she was only married last year, she has selected none.<br><br>Will prefer to work out your character in stages, it will go faster that way, will post up a roleplaying prompt for you soon..&nbsp; <br><br>Sounds like<strong> Devonayes is</strong>... <strong>Human</strong>, yes and obviously <strong>from Neo Spain</strong>.&nbsp; A Follower of<strong> Aericel</strong>.<br>Languages from her history if you have the intelligence / skills to support it would be&nbsp; &nbsp; Human(Spanish) {native}, Human (Euro), and Elvish<br><br>Questions:&nbsp; What is Devonayes' Alignment?&nbsp; You're allowed (2) traits, one will be Knight of the Rose, you may select the other.<br><br>I'm presuming youre going to be human.&nbsp; I do race's slightly different.&nbsp; To help keep all races in balance, i actually 'build' them using the advanced racial book <div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Spoiler: Click to Show/Hide</div><div class="spoiler_body">http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/advancedRaceGuide/raceBuilder.html (http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/advancedRaceGuide/raceBuilder.html)</div></div>, i budget each race with 10 points and build them, this allows for non standard races to appear while keeping them at least in balance somewhat.&nbsp; You may pick no more than (3) from each category (ie.&nbsp; You can only take one more from this category), there are some other limitations on what you may select, but no point in worrying about them, if you dont select them.<br><br>(4rp~Feat and Skill Racial Trait) Flexible Bonus Feat +1 Feat at first level<br>(4rp~Feat and Skill Racial Trait) Skilled +1 Skill rank each level.<br><br>Humans are gipped, they spend 8rp, the least of all the races, so they actually get 2 more rp to spend.&nbsp; These points are often explained with character background history.<br><br><br><br><br>(Just a quick footnote, Most of the elves are out West in Asia, while there are some about in Euro, they're more known for a thriving Dwarven population.)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 13:51:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Cool...so am I building a full sheet?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 14:06:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				You will be eventually, but the process is a little different and involved.&nbsp; Rather do it with you than send you out and have to explain it all to you in bulk, for now, just pick out an alignment and your 2rp of racial traits.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 14:09:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<strong>*pokes Abigail*<br></strong><br>That reminds me, Abigail's stats are pre Advanced Racial too.<br><br>You can pick out two rp of stuff also.&nbsp; I would suggest something to do with your sorc bloodline.<br><br>{browsing now for a recommendation}<br><br>Recommend the following since they seem to be in line with your Starlight bloodline.<br>2rp ~ Light Bringer ~ immune to light based blindess and dazzle effects, and are treated as one level high to determine the effects of any light based spells or effects that they cast.&nbsp; If the character has an intelligence of 10 or higher they may use light at will as a spell like ability.<br><br>Good?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 14:10:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Chaotic Good...and are these the traits on your document, page 7?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 14:15:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11148261#msg11148261">Quote from: DarkNevaeh on 10-04-2015, 14:10:59</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Chaotic Good...and are these the traits on your document, page 7?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Racial traits... (bad word since traits means a different thing in the game, but it's their word not mine)<br><br>http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/advancedRaceGuide/raceBuilder/racialTraits.html#feat-and-skill-racial-traits
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 14:27:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Am I allowed an Advanced Racial trait, such as:<br><br>Quick Reactions (2 RP): Prerequisites: None; Benefit: Members of this race receive Improved Initiative as a bonus feat.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 14:41:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Perhaps, if&nbsp; you told me what sort of trait it is so i can find it.&nbsp; (Please specify at least the category of the trait being questioned to make finding it easier)<br><br><br>You should be aware, that in the past, i use simplified party initiative to help combat encounters move along.<br><br>You roll initiative once at the start of the encounter and then go back and forth from there.<br><br><del>Most likely i will allow you to take that trait if you've a mind for it, though i feel you should be warned, it's often less useful in my campaigns than in standard table top play where initiative is rolled every round.</del><br><br>I take that back.&nbsp; No you cant have it.&nbsp; You cant take the 'specific' Feat or 'specific' Skill or 'specific' weapon traits.<br><br>Quick Reactions is a variation of Static Bonus Feat, since youre picking it out it's not static at all.&nbsp; These are meant to be 'racial' traits not character traits, so if youre going to take something that gives you're going to <span class="bbc_u">SELECT</span> <em>(as opposed to it being an established feat for a race)</em> a feat, skill or weapon proficiency you need to take it as a flexible.&nbsp; You already have Flexible Feat.<br><br>ie.&nbsp; <em>So you couldnt take Skill Training, but you could take Flexible Skill Training, which would let you select one skill instead of two.</em><br><br>As a human, you already have Flexible Feat, so you cant take anything that would give you a static Feat.<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 14:44:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ah I see!<br><br>Ok how about this one then under the Feats and Skill Racial Traits?<br><br>Scavenger (2 RP): Prerequisites: None; Benefit: Members of this race gain a +2 racial bonus on Appraise and Perception checks to find hidden objects (including traps and secret doors), determine whether food is spoiled, or identify a potion by taste.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 14:50:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11148299#msg11148299">Quote from: DarkNevaeh on 10-04-2015, 14:44:14</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Ah I see!<br><br>Ok how about this one then under the Feats and Skill Racial Traits?<br><br>Scavenger (2 RP): Prerequisites: None; Benefit: Members of this race gain a +2 racial bonus on Appraise and Perception checks to find hidden objects (including traps and secret doors), determine whether food is spoiled, or identify a potion by taste.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Yes I can endorse that one, though you should have it in your history why you have such a racial trait.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 14:52:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Would probably learn it from the elves as well.&nbsp; Elves have a natural sense for finding hidden doors, and being rangers and of the woods would mean that survival was based on knowing things like whether food was spoiled or what was worth money so they could trade better at the local market.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 15:05:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11148309#msg11148309">Quote from: Angelic Kitten on 10-04-2015, 14:50:13</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Yes I can endorse that one, though you should have it in your history why you have such a racial trait.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>So noted.&nbsp; You're going to be a 3rd Level Ranger (Divine Tracker)&nbsp; (confirmed?)<br><br>Lets work on your ability points next.<br><br>You have 8 to spend per http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/gettingStarted.html (http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/gettingStarted.html)<br><br>After you spend the 8 points, you add +2 to a score as a racial bonus, because you're human, then you add +1 and +1 to the scores from being 3rd level.<br><br>Please tell me how you spend your 8 points, and then where you add your racial and level bonus.<br><br>Hint, if you feel 8 points is a tight budget, players have been suggested to short one or two stats to 8 or even 7 to get a larger budget of points to work with.<br><br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 15:11:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				for the +1 and +!, is that to all my abilities?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 15:21:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<strong>Abigail's to do list...</strong><br><br>Approve Light Bringer for her two racial points.<br><br>Add +1 twice to her ability scores, suggest adding them to odd numbered scores to get a bonus out of it.<br><br>Pick out a Character Trait for Abigail
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 15:34:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				ok here's what I got, tell me what you think...<br><br>Str-13 (3) +1<br>Dex-13 (3) +2/+1<br>Con-11 (1)<br>Int-11 (1)<br>Wis-10 <br>Cha-10<br><br>so final scores are<br><br>Str-14<br>Dex-16<br>Con-11<br>Int-11<br>Wis-10<br>Cha-10
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 17:17:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11148379#msg11148379">Quote from: DarkNevaeh on 10-04-2015, 15:34:21</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">ok here's what I got, tell me what you think...<br><br>Str-13 (3) +1<br>Dex-13 (3) +2/+1<br>Con-11 (1)<br>Int-11 (1)<br>Wis-10 <br>Cha-10<br><br>so final scores are<br><br>Str-14<br>Dex-16<br>Con-11<br>Int-11<br>Wis-10<br>Cha-10<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Made Int a 12, and lowered Con to 10, as discussed, look at traits and feats next.<br><br>As well as selecting your ranger enemies and terrain that are favored.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 17:29:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				so I found this under Religion Traits:<br><br>Secret Knowledge: You gain a permanent +2 trait bonus on checks with that skill, and it is a class skill for you. Once this skill is chosen, it cannot be changed.<br><br>I figure Knowledge (religion) would work.<br><br>Feats: Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot (1st level, Human)<br>Favored Enemy: Humanoid (human)<br>Favorite Terrain: Debating between Urban and Forest
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 18:11:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11148361#msg11148361">Quote from: Angelic Kitten on 10-04-2015, 15:21:58</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"><strong>Abigail's to do list...</strong><br><br>Approve Light Bringer for her two racial points.<br><br>Add +1 twice to her ability scores, suggest adding them to odd numbered scores to get a bonus out of it.<br><br>Pick out a Character Trait for Abigail<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Thanks Angelic Kitten. I'll look into this and reply when it's done (and I have a draft of that).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 18:18:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11148566#msg11148566">Quote from: DarkNevaeh on 10-04-2015, 17:29:21</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">so I found this under Religion Traits:<br><br>Secret Knowledge: You gain a permanent +2 trait bonus on checks with that skill, and it is a class skill for you. Once this skill is chosen, it cannot be changed.<br><br>I figure Knowledge (religion) would work.<br><br>Feats: Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot (1st level, Human)<br>Favored Enemy: Humanoid (human)<br>Favorite Terrain: Debating between Urban and Forest<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>So noted.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 18:26:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11148566#msg11148566">Quote from: DarkNevaeh on 10-04-2015, 17:29:21</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Feats: Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot (1st level, Human)<br><br>Favorite Terrain: Debating between Urban and Forest<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>You also get a feat for 3rd level, and for Ranger's Combat Style at 2nd level.<br><br>Buy your important/signature equipment.&nbsp; <br>Hands 600gp... Be aware, that gold is hard to come by in may campaigns, and i that i tend to run things on the silver standard.&nbsp; This will likely be the most gold you have at any one time so spend it wisely on what you NEED.<br><br>If you want some suggestions, i recommend,&nbsp; <br><br>Masterwork Long Bow (to make use of your weapon focus) ~&gt; 75gp Base Cost + 300gp MasterWork = 375gp<br><br>or<br><br>Masterwork Composite Long Bow (Str 14) (ignore the focus and do more damage with your strength)~&gt; Base 100gp + 200gp Str Bonus + 300 gp Masterwork = 600gp<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 19:50:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Rapid Shot (Archery Combat Style Feat)<br>Deadly Aim (3rd level)<br>Endurance (3rd level class)<br><br>600gp....<br><br>Masterwork Long Bow (to make use of your weapon focus) ~&gt; 75gp Base Cost + 300gp MasterWork = 375gp<br><br>Leaves me with 225gp
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 20:44:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11148656#msg11148656">Quote from: Angelic Kitten on 10-04-2015, 18:26:59</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">You also get a feat for 3rd level, and for Ranger's Combat Style at 2nd level.<br><br>Buy your important/signature equipment.&nbsp; <br>Hands 600gp... Be aware, that gold is hard to come by in may campaigns, and i that i tend to run things on the silver standard.&nbsp; This will likely be the most gold you have at any one time so spend it wisely on what you NEED.<br><br>If you want some suggestions, i recommend,&nbsp; <br><br>Masterwork Long Bow (to make use of your weapon focus) ~&gt; 75gp Base Cost + 300gp MasterWork = 375gp<br><br>or<br><br>Masterwork Composite Long Bow (Str 14) (ignore the focus and do more damage with your strength)~&gt; Base 100gp + 200gp Str Bonus + 300 gp Masterwork = 600gp<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br><br>Since you have some coin left over, i will allow you to Imbue your bow.&nbsp; Normally it would cost you 400gp, to do so, but i will allow you to do so for 200gp.<br><br>You may imbue it with Magic Weapon or you may imbue it with Truestrike.<br><br>Imbue ~&gt; My campaigns answer to having low level permanent items.&nbsp; They're sort of like fractional magic items, that work once a day or there about for some magical effect.<br><br>You have magical runes/sigils carved/etched/sewn into a masterwork item, which are triggered for some magical effect, at which time the magical etchings are inactive.&nbsp; Over the span of a day, they draw mana from the environment to recharge themselves to work again the next day.&nbsp; The accepted casting action for most Imbued Items was a Movement Action.<br><br>So once per day your Bow would Cast Magic Weapon on itself, or Once per day, it would allow it's next attack to function as a Truestrike attack.<br><br>A Longbow is only allowed (3) Imbues, at which point you've put 1200 gp into it.&nbsp; You either leave it alone at this point or you spend 800gp, to turn it into a Longbow +1 {Imbues are lost in the process}<br><br>Armor and other magical items function in a similar process.<br><br>If you decline the offer, that's fine.&nbsp; Getting it done down the line will be more costly.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 20:56:09</strong>
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				Will that leave enough for some basic armor?&nbsp; And what does Truestrike do?
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 21:04:32</strong>
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				Truestrike, like the 1st Level Magic User spell.<br><br>25gp is enough for Studded Armor.&nbsp; If youre looking at Padded or Leather, I would suggest not bothering.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 21:11:26</strong>
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				Truestrike is fine<br><br>and yea Studded Leather is cool...i'll just be useless melee wise and if we come up against undead...lol<br>
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 22:41:09</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11149000#msg11149000">Quote from: DarkNevaeh on 10-04-2015, 21:11:26</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Truestrike is fine<br><br>and yea Studded Leather is cool...i'll just be useless melee wise and if we come up against undead...lol<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br><br>Mostly done with the character then, your character orgins are Spain, Northwind is a good number of weeks from home, by boat, how did you come to the queens attention that she felt moved to invite you to the order?<br><br>Seeking asylum, and no longer calling spain home is one option, a strong recommendation from the elves might be another, a token of respect by turning you over to the Crown, by your house might be another.<br><br>You'll have to give me some background/names before i can get you started.<br><br>Abigail has a pre-existing history which is known to me, so i was able to start her off fairly quickly.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 23:13:10</strong>
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				This is Abigail's character description. I had a copy of it. I don't know if anything will need changing?<br><br>As a paladin, Abigail travels a great deal, but she has established a base at a homestead south of Northshire in the valley. Her accommodations are a little spartan, but they're also clean and surprisingly comfortable. The owners of the homestead (a toughened woman named Eleanor and her teenage son, Jon) allow her use of the stables, share meals with her, and she comes and goes as she pleases. She occasionally stays at the chapel in Northshire when church business takes her there. The majority of her formal training took place in Northwind (in the south of the Misty Valley), and this is an area she knows well.<br><br>As far as her own background is concerned, Abigail is very different from others in her family. Her mother Diana was a sorceress, that much she knows; just as she knows her mother was murdered by one of the elves. Her father Akaro is a hunter/trapper, and at the time of his wife's death, Abigail was only an infant. He was a broken man when he turned Abigail over to the church of Sol, but he knew little of raising a child on his own, and he feared for her safety in the same woods (to the east of Northshire) where his wife died.<br><br>Abigail's father didn't see her for many years, but one day (about a decade later) he made a snap decision and returned to see his daughter. She was not what he was expecting. She was smart, soft-spoken and utterly unlike him in every way. Still, they got along well and he told her about her mother.. and what had happened to her. Akaro shared how he'd first met her in the wilderness. He'd thought he was alone and then he heard footsteps. He was expecting a threat or one of any number of dangers; he hadn't expected to meet a woman with an enchanting smile. He told Abigail that her mother could 'make stars', and asked her if she could as well. The answer was no.. at that stage of her life.<br><br>Abigail's commitment to the church was strong, and once mentored in combat (because the world was such that it was unreasonable not to), the clerics/priests found that she excelled. She was given the opportunity few others shared.. to become a paladin.. and then a sacred servant of Sol. She always did have a strong sense of justice, a level-head on her shoulders. Her training was as much in religion and law as it was in the more martial aspects. It was not just something she was good at, but it struck a chord with her - in many ways she felt this was what she was born to be. It was during her paladin training that her abilities in sorcery advanced, drawn on once without thought when she was forced to defend herself against a martial opponent. Her mentor in swordsmanship (an elderly man named Reece), advised her to keep it to herself and focus instead on her studies.<br><br>While the sorcery wasn't an ability that Abigail thought would be well-accepted, a part of her wanted to explore it and discover its secrets. In many ways, it created a connection with her mother, who she couldn't remember. Sometimes at night she would try to channel her sorcery, and slowly but surely it grew and began to flourish. While Abigail believes that it isn't truly a power she should draw upon, she also feels that in the tide of battle, it is fair to use the weapons at one's disposal, providing they are used with honour.<br><br>Abigail kept in touch with her father, but every year he tells her he must travel further north and east to earn his living. She understands the dangers of raiding parties and the elves only too well, but thus far he has returned safe and sound. Sometimes she has a feeling that her father possesses something.. secrets or a hidden knowledge, but he is also a deeply down-to-earth man. As of yet his secrets have gone undiscovered.<br>
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 23:19:15</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11149345#msg11149345">Quote from: AmberStarfire on 10-04-2015, 23:13:10</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">This is Abigail's character description. I had a copy of it. I don't know if anything will need changing?<br><br>As a paladin, Abigail travels a great deal, but she has established a base at a homestead south of Northshire in the valley. Her accommodations are a little spartan, but they're also clean and surprisingly comfortable. The owners of the homestead (a toughened woman named Eleanor and her teenage son, Jon) allow her use of the stables, share meals with her, and she comes and goes as she pleases. She occasionally stays at the chapel in Northshire when church business takes her there. The majority of her formal training took place in Northwind (in the south of the Misty Valley), and this is an area she knows well.<br><br>As far as her own background is concerned, Abigail is very different from others in her family. Her mother Diana was a sorceress, that much she knows; just as she knows her mother was murdered by one of the elves. Her father Akaro is a hunter/trapper, and at the time of his wife's death, Abigail was only an infant. He was a broken man when he turned Abigail over to the church of Sol, but he knew little of raising a child on his own, and he feared for her safety in the same woods (to the east of Northshire) where his wife died.<br><br>Abigail's father didn't see her for many years, but one day (about a decade later) he made a snap decision and returned to see his daughter. She was not what he was expecting. She was smart, soft-spoken and utterly unlike him in every way. Still, they got along well and he told her about her mother.. and what had happened to her. Akaro shared how he'd first met her in the wilderness. He'd thought he was alone and then he heard footsteps. He was expecting a threat or one of any number of dangers; he hadn't expected to meet a woman with an enchanting smile. He told Abigail that her mother could 'make stars', and asked her if she could as well. The answer was no.. at that stage of her life.<br><br>Abigail's commitment to the church was strong, and once mentored in combat (because the world was such that it was unreasonable not to), the clerics/priests found that she excelled. She was given the opportunity few others shared.. to become a paladin.. and then a sacred servant of Sol. She always did have a strong sense of justice, a level-head on her shoulders. Her training was as much in religion and law as it was in the more martial aspects. It was not just something she was good at, but it struck a chord with her - in many ways she felt this was what she was born to be. It was during her paladin training that her abilities in sorcery advanced, drawn on once without thought when she was forced to defend herself against a martial opponent. Her mentor in swordsmanship (an elderly man named Reece), advised her to keep it to herself and focus instead on her studies.<br><br>While the sorcery wasn't an ability that Abigail thought would be well-accepted, a part of her wanted to explore it and discover its secrets. In many ways, it created a connection with her mother, who she couldn't remember. Sometimes at night she would try to channel her sorcery, and slowly but surely it grew and began to flourish. While Abigail believes that it isn't truly a power she should draw upon, she also feels that in the tide of battle, it is fair to use the weapons at one's disposal, providing they are used with honour.<br><br>Abigail kept in touch with her father, but every year he tells her he must travel further north and east to earn his living. She understands the dangers of raiding parties and the elves only too well, but thus far he has returned safe and sound. Sometimes she has a feeling that her father possesses something.. secrets or a hidden knowledge, but he is also a deeply down-to-earth man. As of yet his secrets have gone undiscovered.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br><br>You can keep most of it, since the Twilight campaign ended well, the Elves are no longer the greatest threat facing humanity.&nbsp; We're back to the nice warm fuzzy allies that they usually are.<br><br>We can presume that the rest mostly works.&nbsp; YOu settled in the valley, met with Adhafera when she was just a baroness, in the valley, made an impression, helped her here and there, and when she left the valley, she decided that she wanted to recall you from the Valley and make you one of her Roses.&nbsp; Is the thumbnail summary of the early introductions and what you can expect.<br><br>We need to rework your character a little though, stuff missing on the character sheet, and a general rework of your equipment list.&nbsp; Dont mind keeping the fluff, and can make some mind amendments for past history but i'd like for all the players to start on somewhat equal footings, just as point of fairness.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 23:21:55</strong>
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				Okay. I'll do a re-write of her background then.<br><br>I also have a question - I'm starting to work through the list.<br><br>Is Light Bringer (as a spell-like ability) in addition to her having the cantrip 'Light' or is it instead of it? <br><br>I'm not sure if there would be much benefit to her having both (she already has Light listed on her sheet).<br><br>
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 23:29:30</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11149366#msg11149366">Quote from: Angelic Kitten on 10-04-2015, 23:19:15</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"><br>You can keep most of it, since the Twilight campaign ended well, the Elves are no longer the greatest threat facing humanity.&nbsp; We're back to the nice warm fuzzy allies that they usually are.<br><br>We can presume that the rest mostly works.&nbsp; YOu settled in the valley, met with Adhafera when she was just a baroness, in the valley, made an impression, helped her here and there, and when she left the valley, she decided that she wanted to recall you from the Valley and make you one of her Roses.&nbsp; Is the thumbnail summary of the early introductions and what you can expect.<br><br>We need to rework your character a little though, stuff missing on the character sheet, and a general rework of your equipment list.&nbsp; Dont mind keeping the fluff, and can make some mind amendments for past history but i'd like for all the players to start on somewhat equal footings, just as point of fairness.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>You can pick out a different cantrip to replace Light.&nbsp; LIght bringer is a little defensive cause light will never blind you, and all your light based spells, are improve by one class level of effectiveness.<br><br>So you may start wanting to look at those spells as more desirable to take because you'll cast them at a higher level, i thought the racial trait worked well with your bloodline, if you want something else you may.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 23:37:23</strong>
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				Sure. I'll pick a different cantrip. How about read magic?<br><br>Btw, I would like to change my abilities to these. I know it's not improving 2 the way I could, but I'd rather not keep her Wisdom on 8. That always vexed me.<br><br><br>Abilities:<br>Str 15 +2 mod (+2 Human)<br>Dex 12 +1 mod<br>Con 12 +1 mod<br><br>Int 10 +0 mod<br>Wis 10 -0 mod<br>Cha 13 +1 mod <br><br>
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>10-04-2015, 23:45:38</strong>
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				It may not at any point be useful, but I want to take Absolute Loyalty as her trait.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>11-04-2015, 03:51:42</strong>
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				I've revised Abigail's background. Please let me know if this is okay or if it needs anything. It's almost 3am so I'm going to leave off story posting until tomorrow because I should get some sleep.<br><br><hr><br><em>Abigail is a Paladin serving the Temple of Sol, who is to become a member of the Order of the Rose.</em><br><br>Abigail has long been based in the Misty Valley, where she lived at a homestead to the south of Northshire with farmer, Eleanor and her son, Jon. She would often stay at the chapel in Northshire when on church business, but as often travelled on duties for the church or militia. The majority of Abigail's formal training took place in Northwind and this is an area she knows well. It was during her time in the Misty Valley that she first met Baroness Adhafera Arcwright, and made an impression with her. Rumour eventually reached her ears that Adhafera had married King Cameron Edenburg and was now his Queen.<br><br>She was raised by the church in its orphanage. Her background is not so unique as it might sound, given the multitude of threats that were affecting the Misty Valley. Her mother Diana was a sorceress, and was murdered by one of the elves (Abigail still doesn't know her killer's name). Her father Akaro is a hunter/trapper, and at the time of his wife's death, Abigail was merely an infant. He was a broken man when he turned Abigail over to the Church of Sol, for he knew little of raising a child on his own, and he feared for her safety in the woods that were his livelihood. <br><br>Akaro didn't visit his daughter for many years, but when he eventually made the snap decision to visit her as a ten year old, she surprised him. She was smart, soft-spoken and different in every way to how he'd envisioned her. By comparison, he was a rugged man who spent the majority of his life on the land, and he had to be a tough sort to survive that. They got along well - Abigail adored her father's honest forthrightness and his presence, which had been missing for so much of her childhood. She finally felt like she had a family to belong to, even if it was a family of one man. Akaro told her about her mother and to some extent, what happened to her. Akaro shared that he'd first met Diana in the wilderness. He'd thought he was alone and then he heard footsteps. He was expecting a threat or one of any number of dangers, but he hadn't expected to meet a woman with an enchanting smile. Their family had returned to their camp early one night when they were ambushed by elves. Diana lashed out at their attackers with sorcery and was killed before their eyes. <br><br>Abigail's commitment to the church was strong, and once mentored in combat (because the world was such that it was unreasonable not to), the clerics/priests found that she excelled. She was given an opportunity few others had - to become a paladin, and then a sacred servant of her deity, the sun god, Sol. She always had a strong sense of justice - a calling for it, and a level head on her shoulders. Her training was as much in religion and law as it was in combat. In many ways she felt this was what she was born to be. It was during her paladin training that her abilities in sorcery advanced, drawn on once without thought when she was forced to defend herself against a martial opponent. Her mentor in swordsmanship (an elderly man named Reece), advised her to keep these abilities to herself and focus instead on her studies in swordsmanship.<br><br>While the sorcery wasn't an ability that Abigail thought would be well-accepted by the church, she wanted to explore it and discover its secrets. It was one of the few remaining connections she shared with her mother, who she couldn't remember at all. Sometimes at night she would try to channel her sorcery, and slowly but surely it blossomed, as did she. While Abigail believes that it isn't truly a power she should draw upon, she also feels that in the tide of battle, it is fair to use the weapons at one's disposal, provided they are used with honour.<br>
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>11-04-2015, 19:58:57</strong>
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				<div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Devonayes</div><div class="spoiler_body">(https://i.warosu.org/data/tg/img/0256/10/1372038597005.jpg)</div></div><br>And Dev works for short
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>11-04-2015, 22:27:24</strong>
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				<div class="floatleft"><em><strong><span style="font-family: comic sans ms;" class="bbc_font">For:<br>(http://www.angelickitten.com/gal/avatar/devon.jpg)<br>Devonayes <br>Cantana</span></strong></em></div><br>Just a reminder, you may still select a feat for being 3rd Level.&nbsp; Also, still waiting on skills otherwise your character sheet is done.<br><br>Please review it when it is complete, to ensure that i've made no errors translating it over.&nbsp; Now that youre squared away, i can give Abigail a through look over.&nbsp; Once she's settled, i'll consider putting up a note to see if i can find us a third Rose, or if we'll be keeping it small and cozy.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Phaia</strong> on <strong>14-04-2015, 06:40:00</strong>
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				I would be interested in This group. I have always liked the idea of a fantasy 'Lady in waiting' that does private work for the queen when needed. My concept would be a Bard, Someone that has been around the main palace since she was an infant. I was thinking her mother was a famed grand harpist and her father some sort of servent to the King. <br><br>I have a lovely image for her <br>https://www.pinterest.com/pin/495888608940243305/<br>https://www.pinterest.com/pin/255790453809678804/<br><br>Phaia
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>14-04-2015, 14:12:28</strong>
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				<br>Bards...&nbsp; have been slightly modified in the game (They were at one time banned as impractical in the campaign)&nbsp; The ones that use instruments for their special abilities... don't exist.&nbsp; That's because the concept of requiring an adventurer to lug around&nbsp; bulky piece of equipment on adventures as a means to use their abilities just never sat right with me.<br><br>For this reason,&nbsp; Bards in the campaign, use Singing for their talents, and are known as Spellsingers.&nbsp; Your character can be musically inclined and play the harp but her special performance skills should be tied with the talent of singing.&nbsp; <br><br>Good?<br><br>Ii think there might be some room for interesting stuff here.&nbsp; She might be a childhood friend of the King, and have a sort of split loyalty between him and the queen, she might even have a romantic interest in the king which would be a huge complication.&nbsp; Past spellsingers have had a lot of fun in my campaigns, so if youre interested, i can let you in the campaign with minimal issues.<br><br>Did you have a name for your character Phaia?
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Phaia</strong> on <strong>14-04-2015, 16:41:36</strong>
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				Are spellsingers built the same as a bard. I looked at your pdf it seems like that should be. ie, same abilities, spells etc...I am asking for abilities like Versatile Performance&nbsp; <br>I looked at magician and sandman and perfer for this straight class. Bards/Spellsinger are great support characters. having a wealth of knowledge to call on as well as able to add magic and combat abilities.<br>My second choice as a class would be witch<br><br>As for a name in my head currently I am calling her Isabella, Bella to the Roses and the Queen and friends.<br><br>and yes she would be a singer but also play the flute!<br><br>Phaia
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>14-04-2015, 17:07:08</strong>
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				Spell Singers are Bards that use Song for their Bardic Performance.<br><br>They use bard feats and so forth and are considered bards in all regards, but are called Spell Singers in the campaign and have their own history and stuff.<br><br>For the sake of characters stats you may consider them bard, and treat as such, with the exception that they use Song for their Bardic performance, you may play any number of instruments, but song is the medium upon which you use for most of your magics.<br><br>You are a 3rd Level character, so you may select Witch as a class to supplement your bard abilities.&nbsp; <strong>Will Presume 2nd Level Spell Singer and 1st Level Witch unless you tell me otherwise.</strong><br><br>Have you decided on what you want for a race, is<strong> 'Human' a safe presumption or did you have something more exotic in mind?</strong><br><br>I'm going to presume you're my third player and note it so on my recruitment thread, we... might have a fourth rose, but i'm not looking for more players as of this moment.<br><br>Will work through the character generation with you to answer campaign questions as we go and to make sure everything is in place.&nbsp; Will get a roleplaying post up for Isabella after Lunch.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Phaia</strong> on <strong>14-04-2015, 17:36:38</strong>
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				All good for me. I have never really liked the idea of always having to carry a couple of instrutments ...Spellsinger is a lot like the Sklad of the North, the story teller, the singer so that works nicely.<br>A few questions for ya.<br>* Since singing is the way Bella would deliver her spells does a good perform/sing add to the DC of her spell? Change the DC? I could see that as a reason they are somewhat feared using the DC of her perfom would give her a higher DC then normal?<br>* I may look at witch but that's is another atribute [INT] I would need to increase. If I understand things correctly, the ability points you gave [10 total] are used to buy the attributes? Duel classing unless its like Abigal that both use cha makes that tougher.<br>* You were looking for an idea for the trait 'Knight of the Rose' how about '+2 to any skill and that skill becomes a class skill.' after all the Roses are supposed to be skilled and able to do a bit more then normal.<br>* I was thinking on human but also using those last 2 racial points you mention to add in --"Flexible (2 RP): Members of this race gain a +2 bonus to any two ability scores."-- and say she is part of the old race of man, Sorta like Aragon from LotR.<br>&nbsp;I will look at the witch as an add in.<br><br>I am going to be in and out today with my 5 year old and work. So yes count me in. I have some ideas alreay for Isabella's history incudling brothers and being a bit of a tomboy with the prince [now King]<br><br>Phaia
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>14-04-2015, 18:24:04</strong>
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				<div class="floatleft"><em><strong><span style="font-family: comic sans ms;" class="bbc_font">For:<br>(http://www.angelickitten.com/gal/avatar/isabella.jpg)<br>Isabella</span></strong></em></div><br>All good for me. I have never really liked the idea of always having to carry a couple of instrutments ...Spellsinger is a lot like the Sklad of the North, the story teller, the singer so that works nicely.<br><br>The Nords were briefly developed last campaign, but i was so burned out on Pathfinder by then that it was a pretty quick fail.&nbsp; I've taken a year off from Pathfinder to recover from burn out and i think i'm ready to run with this campaign.<br><br><br>A few questions for ya.<br>* Since singing is the way Bella would deliver her spells does a good perform/sing add to the DC of her spell? Change the DC? I could see that as a reason they are somewhat feared using the DC of her perfom would give her a higher DC then normal?<br><br>Dunno, I would have to think about it.&nbsp; Spell singing was considered an 'old school' of magic, before the arrival of more formulated magic (like Magic Users), and is considered something youre born with (like a sorceress) in the campaign.&nbsp; This is mostly roleplaying stuff, game mechanics were that, it worked like as a Bard.&nbsp; We did enjoy matching songs to effects, and when appropriate, a modest experience points were given out for the entertainment value of the effort.<br><br>* I may look at witch but that's is another atribute [INT] I would need to increase. If I understand things correctly, the ability points you gave [10 total] are used to buy the attributes? Duel classing unless its like Abigal that both use cha makes that tougher.<br><br>Having duo classes that have different attribute focuses is always challenging.&nbsp; Actually it's worse than you think, it's only (8).&nbsp; After you spend the eight points you add +2 from your human bonus to one of the ability scores, then after that you add +1 to two more scores to reflect the two levels you gains.&nbsp; It's a little bit of a deviation from, standard Pathfinder rules.<br><br>This was because we had something called 'fast tracking', in the campaign.&nbsp; Players that wanted to play higher level characters could do so, but gave up two abilty scores to do so, and any levels they fast tracked, they didnt get a +1 ability score for.&nbsp; So... you could play a 5th level character if you had a mind to do so, but you'd only have 4 ability points to spend on your character plus the bonus for being human, and gaining two levels, not four.&nbsp; &nbsp; I'm willing to allow fast tracking in this campaign, but&nbsp; i dont advise it, ability points are long term resources, and xp will come when it comes over time anyway.<br><br><br>* You were looking for an idea for the trait 'Knight of the Rose' how about '+2 to any skill and that skill becomes a class skill.' after all the Roses are supposed to be skilled and able to do a bit more then normal.<br><br>I've worked out what the trait Knight of the Rose does, it covers 10gp of living tax, and allows you access to the Order's resources for missions.<br><br>* I was thinking on human but also using those last 2 racial points you mention to add in --"Flexible (2 RP): Members of this race gain a +2 bonus to any two ability scores."-- and say she is part of the old race of man, Sorta like Aragon from LotR.<br>&nbsp;I will look at the witch as an add in.<br><br>You may do that, but the cost to gain a +2 Bonus in an Ability Score is (4rp).&nbsp; It would have to take the place of one of your four point human traits, either the Flexible Bonus Feat (4rp) or Skilled (4rp).&nbsp; <br><br>Going this route means youre not 'pure' human but youre 1/2 (something) and of mixed blood.&nbsp; ie.&nbsp; One of the Roses, Allison is Half Aasimer, and as such has +2 bonus for Wisdom and Charisma.&nbsp; Off the top of my head, i dont know of any race that uses Int and Charisma for ability scores, so you would have to approach it from the Human end that uses +2 in any ability score and inherit another +2 from their non-human side (cost 4rp).&nbsp; We're essentially building your race at that point, and you would have (6rp) to spend, one of them would have to be for the human feat Bonus Feat or Skilled, because...&nbsp; youre half human.&nbsp; The last 2 rp we would negotiate but should be related to your non human bloodline.&nbsp; Asimar, Catfolk, and Drow for instance all have a +2 Charisma bonus for the race, so those would be valid half humans that would get you a +2 bonus to Int and Charima&nbsp; <em>{I presume this is what youre trying for which is the point of this discussion?}</em><br><br>I am going to be in and out today with my 5 year old and work. So yes count me in. I have some ideas alreay for Isabella's history incudling brothers and being a bit of a tomboy with the prince [now King]<br><br>I usually like to get one thing settled and move on, it looks like were going to be building your race.&nbsp; You're going to be a Half Human of some sort.<br><br>As a Human you get a +2 bonus to one of your ability scores&nbsp; {Maybe Int, as youre contemplating a witch?}<br><br>As a Half Human at least (5 of your RP should be spent on Feats/Skills), (4rp) for either Bonus Feat or Skilled, and (1rp) for some other racial Skill or Feat.&nbsp; ie. You could take Flexible Skill Training, which would allow you to pick one skill, and this skill would always be considered a class skill to Isabella.<br><br>Your non-human half should draw racial traits from one of the other established races in the Advanced player guide.&nbsp; So if you were looking for a Charisma Bonus you might take Assimer or Catfolk as your other bloodline, and take (4rp) Advanced Ability Charisma +2&nbsp; [<em>This does not stack with your Human bonus, they must be two different abilities</em>], and 1rp from the non human race.&nbsp; ie.&nbsp; Catfolk have Lowlight vision, which is 1rp, so your character might have inherited it from your feline parent and also has Lowlight vision as well.<br><br>Once we get your racial details settled, we'll move on.<br><br>
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Phaia</strong> on <strong>14-04-2015, 23:57:40</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11160468#msg11160468">Quote from: Angelic Kitten on 14-04-2015, 18:24:04</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">You may do that, but the cost to gain a +2 Bonus in an Ability Score is (4rp).&nbsp; It would have to take the place of one of your four point human traits, either the Flexible Bonus Feat (4rp) or Skilled (4rp).&nbsp; <br><br>Going this route means youre not 'pure' human but youre 1/2 (something) and of mixed blood.&nbsp; ie.&nbsp; One of the Roses, Allison is Half Aasimer, and as such has +2 bonus for Wisdom and Charisma.&nbsp; Off the top of my head, i dont know of any race that uses Int and Charisma for ability scores, so you would have to approach it from the Human end that uses +2 in any ability score and inherit another +2 from their non-human side (cost 4rp).&nbsp; We're essentially building your race at that point, and you would have (6rp) to spend, one of them would have to be for the human feat Bonus Feat or Skilled, because...&nbsp; youre half human.&nbsp; The last 2 rp we would negotiate but should be related to your non human bloodline.&nbsp; Asimar, Catfolk, and Drow for instance all have a +2 Charisma bonus for the race, so those would be valid half humans that would get you a +2 bonus to Int and Charima&nbsp; <em>{I presume this is what youre trying for which is the point of this discussion?}</em><br><br>I usually like to get one thing settled and move on, it looks like were going to be building your race.&nbsp; You're going to be a Half Human of some sort.<br><br>As a Human you get a +2 bonus to one of your ability scores&nbsp; {Maybe Int, as youre contemplating a witch?}<br><br>As a Half Human at least (5 of your RP should be spent on Feats/Skills), (4rp) for either Bonus Feat or Skilled, and (1rp) for some other racial Skill or Feat.&nbsp; ie. You could take Flexible Skill Training, which would allow you to pick one skill, and this skill would always be considered a class skill to Isabella.<br><br>Your non-human half should draw racial traits from one of the other established races in the Advanced player guide.&nbsp; So if you were looking for a Charisma Bonus you might take Assimer or Catfolk as your other bloodline, and take (4rp) Advanced Ability Charisma +2&nbsp; [<em>This does not stack with your Human bonus, they must be two different abilities</em>], and 1rp from the non human race.&nbsp; ie.&nbsp; Catfolk have Lowlight vision, which is 1rp, so your character might have inherited it from your feline parent and also has Lowlight vision as well.<br><br>Once we get your racial details settled, we'll move on.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Okay first off I always love building a character, part of what makes them speical to me so thanks for that!<br><br>I looked over your pdf sheet and taking a non-human also means I loose 2 ability points which hurts a bit there. A question on that subject ya note that Isabella would start with 8 [now 6] and then gain 2. Can these 2 be placed in the same attribute. ..Example-- Con-10, 1st ability point raises it to a 11, can the second now be placed ther as well and raise it to a 12?<br><br>My concept for Bella, is a quick graceful fighter when needed so dex is importent. I had planned on taking Weapon Finesse which works very nicely with a rapier. Going duel class Spellsinger/witch removes the ability to wear armor and cast witch spells, this is not many but then could be importent. So at least a 14 dex to compensate is what I was looking at. 14 cha since bard is the main class and 12-14 int. Geting that many to 14 looks to be very difficult without gimping her hard in other areas.<br><br>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/other-races/featured-races/arg-aasimar#TOC-Azata-Blooded-Musetouched-<br><br>As for the race, Aasimar -Musetouched works as a starting concept. Bella could be froma&nbsp; long line of divinely blooded linked to one of the gods/goddess. Of course being a 15 rp is not good but depending on how you have thiongs droped 'Outsider' -3rp and 'Celestial resistance' 3rp or even 'Greater Spell Like ability' 3rp any combination of those brings the race down to a 9rp and gives it flavor. The dark vision adds in a nice touch as well. me? I would go with dropping outsider and the resistance but then I always like having an extra spell in hand. I have no problem with droping resistance and the spell ability.<br><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Musetouched</div><div class="spoiler_body">Azata-Blooded (Musetouched)<br>&nbsp;The musetouched epitomize freedom and joy, and travel the world to liberate less fortunate individuals.<br>&nbsp;Ancestry Azata<br>&nbsp;•Typical Alignment Cg<br>&nbsp;•Ability Modifiers +2 Dex, +2 Cha<br>&nbsp;•Alternate Skill Modifiers Diplomacy, Perform<br>&nbsp;•Alternate Spell-Like Ability Musetouched gain glitterdust as a spell-like ability.<br>&nbsp;<br>The capricious aasimars known as musetouched are the most likely of their kind to be found adventuring throughout lands both civilized and remote. Imbued with an undeniable spirit of wanderlust, musetouched feel the constant urge to explore new places, meet new people, and ferret out evil and corruption wherever they lurk.<br>&nbsp;<br>Of all the aasimars, musetouched tend to be among the most beautiful by most humans’ standards. They possess features with an unearthly charm, such as long, thick hair of a seemingly impossible hue and limpid, jeweltoned eyes. Musetouched are commonly possessed of innate musical talent and a love for melodies, and many train as bards while they wander.<br></div></div><br>The one problem I do have with duel class is that favored class bonus. In effect unless I go with a half elf, I loose 1 extra favored class award when I take a level in witch. The loss of an extra skill point only really hurts if I could get a 14 int which I am not sure I could.<br>&nbsp;<br>I am completely open on how you see this could be made to work. We can build a new race or modify one as you desire. I just like seeing how things go. The idea I had for her race, desended probally through her mother. Was something human but greater, a disapearing race that has mixed with normal humans and save for a few bloodlines have all but vanished.<br><br><hr><br>A few background ideas that may help this concpet. I think I read somewhere that the Roses have been around in service to other queens before? If so maybe her mother served the former one which could help explain why she was chosen.<br><br>Thanks again loved the pdf and especially ' The Mexican Rule'<br><br>Phaia
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 00:45:59</strong>
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				<div class="floatleft"><em><strong><span style="font-family: comic sans ms;" class="bbc_font">For:<br>(http://www.angelickitten.com/gal/avatar/isabella.jpg)<br>Isabella</span></strong></em></div><br>I looked over your pdf sheet and taking a non-human also means I loose 2 ability points which hurts a bit there. &nbsp; <br><br>That ability handicap was there to even the disparity for new non human being introduced, with the use of the advanced race rules, it has become obsolete, since, as far as i'm concerned, all the races are now balanced since they all spend 10rp points during character generation (<em>i'm maybe a little obsessive on game balance, its my opinion that broken rules wreck more campaigns than anything else.</em>)<br><br>A question on that subject ya note that Isabella would start with 8<del> [now 6] </del>and then gain 2. Can these 2 be placed in the same attribute. ..Example-- Con-10, 1st ability point raises it to a 11, can the second now be placed ther as well and raise it to a 12?<br><br>Yes, traditionally as a point of effectiveness, players will try not to spend higher than 13 points with their starting stats, using the racial bonus and level bonus to get higher stats, also since level bumps give you a +1 bonus, those odd number ability scores you use to avoid are no longer useless.&nbsp; A 13 Dex can bump to a 14, when you go from level 1 to 2.&nbsp; A 7 Strength can go to an 8 when you go from level 2 to 3, and so forth.<br><br>My concept for Bella, is a quick graceful fighter when needed so dex is importent. I had planned on taking Weapon Finesse which works very nicely with a rapier. Going duel class Spellsinger/witch removes the ability to wear armor and cast witch spells, this is not many but then could be importent. So at least a 14 dex to compensate is what I was looking at. 14 cha since bard is the main class and 12-14 int. Geting that many to 14 looks to be very difficult without gimping her hard in other areas.<br><br>You could duo class, you would have light armor proficiency from Spell singing.&nbsp; You can even cast witch spell, though you have to contend with possible arcane failure.&nbsp; I have house rules that might actually help with that though.&nbsp; You should look over my equipment rules, paying particular attention to how i handle Master Work armor.<br><br>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/other-races/featured-races/arg-aasimar#TOC-Azata-Blooded-Musetouched-<br><br>As for the race, Aasimar -Musetouched works as a starting concept. Bella could be froma&nbsp; long line of divinely blooded linked to one of the gods/goddess. Of course being a 15 rp is not good but depending on how you have thiongs droped 'Outsider' -3rp and 'Celestial resistance' 3rp or even 'Greater Spell Like ability' 3rp any combination of those brings the race down to a 9rp and gives it flavor. The dark vision adds in a nice touch as well. me? I would go with dropping outsider and the resistance but then I always like having an extra spell in hand. I have no problem with droping resistance and the spell ability.<br><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Musetouched</div><div class="spoiler_body">Azata-Blooded (Musetouched)<br>&nbsp;The musetouched epitomize freedom and joy, and travel the world to liberate less fortunate individuals.<br>&nbsp;Ancestry Azata<br>&nbsp;•Typical Alignment Cg<br>&nbsp;•Ability Modifiers +2 Dex, +2 Cha<br>&nbsp;•Alternate Skill Modifiers Diplomacy, Perform<br>&nbsp;•Alternate Spell-Like Ability Musetouched gain glitterdust as a spell-like ability.<br>&nbsp;<br>The capricious aasimars known as musetouched are the most likely of their kind to be found adventuring throughout lands both civilized and remote. Imbued with an undeniable spirit of wanderlust, musetouched feel the constant urge to explore new places, meet new people, and ferret out evil and corruption wherever they lurk.<br>&nbsp;<br>Of all the aasimars, musetouched tend to be among the most beautiful by most humans’ standards. They possess features with an unearthly charm, such as long, thick hair of a seemingly impossible hue and limpid, jeweltoned eyes. Musetouched are commonly possessed of innate musical talent and a love for melodies, and many train as bards while they wander.<br></div></div><br>Reviewed, this is not a Human only Campaign.&nbsp; Are you requesting to BE Muse touched, or are you requesting to be Half Musetouched, and simply have an ancestor which have passed down some of the traits to you?&nbsp; I'm willing to allow either, but i need to know what youre asking before going into how i handle it.&nbsp; If you want to be Musetouched,&nbsp; i would review the race and build it using 10rp, and hand you the race to use, as is.&nbsp; Parts will obviously be clipped and lost because it looks like the race uses more than 10rp, though i would try and stay as close to it, without sacrificing play balance.<br><br>The one problem I do have with duel class is that favored class bonus. In effect unless I go with a half elf, I loose 1 extra favored class award when I take a level in witch. The loss of an extra skill point only really hurts if I could get a 14 int which I am not sure I could.<br>&nbsp;<br>You're going to lose something sooner or later, one way or the other.&nbsp; There is a Nine Level Character cap on this campaign.&nbsp; No mortal character that you meet will be higher than level 9.&nbsp; Normal class progression stops at 5, after five you need to spend two levels in a class before you can get the <span class="bbc_u">class features</span> (you still get your BIB, HP, Save, and skill points), so if you stick to only one class you'll see sixth level features at 7th level, and seventh level features at 9th level when you cap out.&nbsp; If you multi-class, you avoid this problem, though you do end up losing a skill point from the favored class thing.&nbsp; So it's not as terrible as you may think.&nbsp; There is a logic of game balance behind this that i will discuss with you after character generation but i'm trying to keep the size of this response short.<br><br>I am completely open on how you see this could be made to work. We can build a new race or modify one as you desire. I just like seeing how things go. The idea I had for her race, desended probally through her mother. Was something human but greater, a disapearing race that has mixed with normal humans and save for a few bloodlines have all but vanished.<br><br>I've given this a little bit of thought as i was typing this, and i think the way to handle this, would be to make her half Musetouched.&nbsp; The reason for this, is her history, she's part of a human court, and to be so does not require to be human but because her family seems to be a long time part of the court, would suggest that she be human or, at worse, half human.&nbsp; I will give you the Half Muse race after this post so that i have time to dedicate a post to typing it up.<br><br><hr><br>A few background ideas that may help this concpet. I think I read somewhere that the Roses have been around in service to other queens before? If so maybe her mother served the former one which could help explain why she was chosen.<br><br>Yes, if you read you start up post here... https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227120.0 (https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227120.0), i provided a bit of a lot of information that actually benefits all the players, and explains the orgins of the Roses, it's possible that your mother did serve Queen Rose, and i will allow that if you desire.<br><br>Thanks again loved the pdf and especially ' The Mexican Rule'<br><br>The Mexican Rule rocks, it's the corner stone of many happy campaigns, because no matter what happens i can just make a quick judgement call and say it's a mexican ruling and sweep it under the rug and no one misses a beat and we go on,focus off rules, and on fun RP.<br><br>Okay... now to make your Half Muse...
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 01:06:15</strong>
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				Half-Azata (Musetouched), Racial Traits<br><br>You must choose which bloodline is stronger, <br>if you choose Human, then youre Human<br>if you choose Azata, then for better and worse you're considered an 'Outsider' and may be affects as such<br><br><div class="floatright"><em><strong><span style="font-family: comic sans ms;" class="bbc_font">For:<br>(http://www.angelickitten.com/gal/avatar/isabella.jpg)<br>Isabella</span></strong></em></div><br>Did you want to pickout a last name for Bella?<br><br>You must be either Chaotic, or Good&nbsp; (I would prefer good personally, you may obviously be both.)<br><br>2rp Flexible Ability&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;+2 Dexterity and +2 Charisma<br><br>Spend (4rp on the following)<br><br>4rp Bonus Feat (extra feat at level one)<br>4rp Skilled (+1 skill per level)<br>2rp Skill Bonus +2 racial Diplomacy<br>2rp Skill Bonus +2 racial Perform<br><br>Then...<br><br>Spend (4rp on the following)<br>1rp Energy Resistance {5 points of Acid Resistance}<br>1rp Energy Resistance {5 points of Cold Resistance}<br>1rp Energy Resistance {5 points of Electricity Resistance}<br>1rp Spell-Like Ability, Lesser {Faerie Fire} (x1/Day)<br>2rp Dark Vision 60'<br><br>You may take Bralani's Step,{you may move an additional 5' as part of a move action (1/day)} as your 2nd Trait.<br><br>Figure out what you want and i"ll not it on your character sheet and we'll move on from here.<br><br>
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Phaia</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 01:10:34</strong>
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				&nbsp;:o ;D<br>I do love someone that takes the time to explain ideas and concepts, thank you.<br><br>I believe a half muse works fine. I was looking at the orcale but I have always liked witchs and bards and a chance to combine them I hope will be fun. Now I do not mind Bella wearing no armor, she tends to be a bit wilder/willful then some in the court like [working on ideas for her background to include a trait giving her disable devices along with slight of hand she has snuck into places in the palace most do not know about]<br><br>I do like the idea that her mother at least served as a former Rose [probally a spellsinger/witch as well] and now is a sercet assent in count in that she plays the grand harp as part of the Royal Troupe of Music. <br>I am glad to see that Bella will have 8 alibity to start with I had considered just giving her 4 x 12 in certain areas. <br><br><em>hmm I wanted to check on something here. if I gave her a 13 dex to start would the +1 ability allow her to go to a 14 dex since you mentioned odd attributes? It looks like this would be the case from what you posted&nbsp; just wanted to be sure. How would that work with a racial modifer?</em><br><br>I see stylish leather armor in your equipment section--- just the thing Bella would have&nbsp; :P :P<br><br>I can live without 2 favored classes since it really is not that tough.&nbsp; :P I tend to play the lore type of bard and a support character. We have a pally/socr and a ranger for the in the face stuff, Bella would hopefully be the face, charming, posed and mischivious. Flirts with the males, may even follow through if they amuse her or it is needed. <br><br>Anyway nice so far....<br><br>Phaia<br><br><br>oo you posted let me look this over&nbsp; ;D :o
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 01:20:03</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11161568#msg11161568">Quote from: Phaia on 15-04-2015, 01:10:34</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"><em>hmm I wanted to check on something here. if I gave her a 13 dex to start would the +1 ability allow her to go to a 14 dex since you mentioned odd attributes? It looks like this would be the case from what you posted&nbsp; just wanted to be sure. How would that work with a racial modifer?</em><br><br>I see stylish leather armor in your equipment section--- just the thing Bella would have&nbsp; :P :P<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>racial adjustments work the way core rules say they do.<br><br>You can spend 3 points to get Dex up to a 13, then being Half Azata, would take it to 15, and then going up a level would take it to a 16.<br><br>A lot of player cry, and get upset when they see i only give them 8 points to work with, but if you spend 6 points to bump your Dex and Cha to 13 to start, your racials would take it to 15, and your two level bumps would take them to 16.<br><br>These are little tweaks that are perfectly legal.&nbsp; Doing so will leave you with only 2 points for other stats though.&nbsp; If this doesnt cut it and you feel you absolutely need more points, you start looking for what we use to call a dog, you pick a stat you dont consider important and you beat it down to an 8 to get 2 points or 7 to get 4 points.&nbsp; 7s are better than 8s imho, because you can bump it back to an 8 when you go up a level, but that same point can be used to make a 13 a 14 or a 15 a 16.<br><br>Players start wanting to level up just to get the ability point at was a very real perk.<br><br><br>
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 01:30:11</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11161568#msg11161568">Quote from: Phaia on 15-04-2015, 01:10:34</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I see stylish leather armor in your equipment section--- just the thing Bella would have&nbsp; :P :P<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Stylish Leather was the start of what was eventually to be Double Masterwork Armor,<br><br>You can apply the Masterwork bonus to armor to reduce the arcane failure, so Leather armor could be reduced from 10 to 0 if it was Masterwork.<br><br>You could apply the same theroy to say a chainmail shirt and reduce the arcane failure from 20% to 10% as well.&nbsp; It gave squishy spell casters some options.&nbsp; You werent going to be out there tanking but you felt a little better when the wolf came to bite you.<br><br>You get to type up your own history, subject to my approval.&nbsp; I can approve your mom was a Rose, it makes for good play.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 01:36:46</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11161568#msg11161568">Quote from: Phaia on 15-04-2015, 01:10:34</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I can live without 2 favored classes since it really is not that tough.&nbsp; :P I tend to play the lore type of bard and a support character. We have a pally/socr and a ranger for the in the face stuff, Bella would hopefully be the face, charming, posed and mischivious. Flirts with the males, may even follow through if they amuse her or it is needed. <br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>You're presuming my campaigns run on traditional parties.&nbsp; You should not presume that i will be working you all as a 'party', you serve at the queens pleasure, and she may send you out on a task in two, or even alone.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Phaia</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 02:03:57</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11161561#msg11161561">Quote from: Angelic Kitten on 15-04-2015, 01:06:15</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Half-Azata (Musetouched), Racial Traits<br><br>You must choose which bloodline is stronger, <br>if you choose Human, then youre Human<br>if you choose Azata, then for better and worse you're considered an 'Outsider' and may be affects as such<br><br><div class="floatright"><em><strong><span style="font-family: comic sans ms;" class="bbc_font">For:<br>(http://www.angelickitten.com/gal/avatar/isabella.jpg)<br>Isabella</span></strong></em></div><br>Did you want to pickout a last name for Bella?<br><br>You must be either Chaotic, or Good&nbsp; (I would prefer good personally, you may obviously be both.)<br><br>2rp Flexible Ability&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;+2 Dexterity and +2 Charisma<br><br>Spend (4rp on the following)<br><br>4rp Bonus Feat (extra feat at level one)<br>4rp Skilled (+1 skill per level)<br>2rp Skill Bonus +2 racial Diplomacy<br>2rp Skill Bonus +2 racial Perform<br><br>Then...<br><br>Spend (4rp on the following)<br>1rp Energy Resistance {5 points of Acid Resistance}<br>1rp Energy Resistance {5 points of Cold Resistance}<br>1rp Energy Resistance {5 points of Electricity Resistance}<br>1rp Spell-Like Ability, Lesser {Faerie Fire} (x1/Day)<br>2rp Dark Vision 60'<br><br>You may take Bralani's Step,{you may move an additional 5' as part of a move action (1/day)} as your 2nd Trait.<br><br>Figure out what you want and i"ll not it on your character sheet and we'll move on from here.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Let us start with a name.<br><br>~That annoying officalish pompish voice that announces people into court~<br><br><em>Presenting Lady Isabella Marie De`Guignes, Daughter of His Lordship Henry Marcell De'Guignes, Keeper of the King's Library and Master of the Royal Scribes and Her Ladyship Joanna Elisa De`Guignes, Royal Grand Harpist of His Majesty's Music Troupe.</em><br><br><hr><br>Definatily Bella is human! so no Outsider stuff unless you would like to add that in for flavor....I can play it and being part of a story I do not mind tweats or requests from the GM.<br>Chaotic Good works well for Bella she is a decent person at heart but rules can chaff her and she tends to be willful and not always going along with what everyone else is doing.<br><br>2rp Flexible Ability-- +2 Dexterity and +2 Charisma<br>2rp Skill Bonus-- +2 racial to Diplomacy<br>2rp Skill Bonus-- +2 racial to Perform-Sing<br>1rp Spell-Like Ability, Lesser {Faerie Fire} (x1/Day)<br>2rp Dark Vision 60'<br>1rp Energy Resistance {5 points of Cold Resistance}<br><br><br>str&nbsp; &nbsp; 10<br>Dex&nbsp; 13 [3ap]<br>Con&nbsp; 10<br>Int&nbsp; &nbsp; 12 [2ap]<br>wis&nbsp; &nbsp;10<br>cha&nbsp; &nbsp;13 [3ap]<br><br>Bonus +1 dex<br>Bonus +1 cha<br>Racial +2 dex/+2 cha<br><br>Final<br>Str&nbsp; 10<br>Dex 16 [+3 ac]<br>con 10<br>Int&nbsp; 12&nbsp; [+1 spell witch/+1 skill pointper level]&nbsp; <br>wis&nbsp; 10<br>Cha 16&nbsp; [+3 bard spells]<br><br>Feat- Weapon Finesse<br><br>start for Isabella<br><br>Phaia
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 02:30:45</strong>
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				<div class="floatright"><em><strong><span style="font-family: comic sans ms;" class="bbc_font">For:<br>(http://www.angelickitten.com/gal/avatar/isabella.jpg)<br>Isabella</span></strong></em></div><br><br>So noted.<br><br>You're allowed two traits, one of which will be Knight of the Rose, you may pick a second.<br><br>I'm presuming youre going to be a 2nd Level Spell Singer, and 1st Level Witch, for the following<br><br>You have selected weapon Finesse as your first level feat, at third level you are allowed a second Feat.&nbsp; Suggest looking at&nbsp; bardic or witch feats too?&nbsp; (Things like lingering performance, extra hexes, and Toughness, can all be useful things)<br><br><br>After this we do work through the spell singer stuff.<br>You know (5) Cantrips and (3) 1st level spells<br><br>After that we work through the Witch stuff.<br>Pick out a Familiar, and a Hex.<br>You know all common cantrips, and you may know (4) 1st Level spells<br><br><em>(It's strongly advised, that you fit healing of some sort in there, either under spell singing spells, or witchy spells, or hexes)</em><br><br>After that we pick skills,&nbsp; (7 skills for spell singer levels)(3 skills for witch levels),<br><br>After that, we deal with equipment.&nbsp; (You have 520 gold to spend)<br>
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Phaia</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 02:48:50</strong>
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				<strong>History of <em>'Lady Isabella Marie De`Guignes'</em></strong><br><br>Isabella has 3 brothers, one younger then her by two years, the oldest is 7 years older the middle brother though is about the same age as Cameron with Isabella a year younger. That brother, Arthur, herself and Cameron were as children the terrors of the palace. Anything Art and Cam tryed to do Mary [as Arthur and Cameron teasingly called her all the time] tryed as well. She was there when her Brother broke a leg on a dare from Cameron to climb a tower wall. She was there when Cameron broke an arm trying to ride his horse standing up on a dare from Art. She has a very faint scare on her right leg from where she fell trying to climb the rose wall of the main keep. They played, laughed and learned. They went skinny dipping in the royal gardens at night and were punished for it. She learned to use a Rapier fencing with them and when one day she beat them both with her quickness a week or so later Cameron presented her with a special made Rapier from the Royal armory [will work on that].<br>When the queen, died when Cameron was just 11, it was Art and Mary that helped console him. Mary often would take a queit walk with Cam in the Royal gardens and be the shoulder he could cry on with no one knowing.<br><br>Childhood does have to end and things change. Mary learned to kiss from both Cam and Art [it did not occure to her and or her brother that it may be wrong to do that later it was made very clear] as well as teenage groping. What really changed thier relationship was when Mary/Bella was caught late one night dancing naked on the king's throne with Art and Cam watching. It had been a dare and after all they had both seen her nude before. This time though she had bloomed into a very lovely girl/young woman. and they were both young lords/men.<br><br>Bella was sent off to learn the arts of a spellsinger from her mother's people there she also learned to disable things and since she as child had run and hid in many shadowy and sometimes secret places in the palace being able to get into the locked areas was useful. It was clear to her as the training went on that her mother had been a 'spy' for the late queen and the training she learned would stand in good stead should there ever be a need for it.<br><br>By the time the marriage, Bella knew a bit about the new queen though she had no idea why Cameron would marry so suddenily and with someone he barely knew. Rumors swirled around Isabella, it was said she had an affair with the prince now king some years earlier [kissing and some gropeing maybe a bit of oral]. That she has danced naked for a mercenary group, lies but she does not deny it. That she has had a string of lovers-not near as many as claimed. That she is carrying on with the captain of the Royal Guard a man many years her senoir. He did accompany her to a Royal Ball last year but mainly becuase her father asked her to go with him as a favor...<br><br>Bella dances can dance with laughter and she can flirt and tease but there is also a hardness to her that she hides... as well as hiding that is a witch of the old order.<br><br><hr><br>How is this for some background Angelic Kitten?<br><br>Phaia
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 02:50:17</strong>
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				All players, please rememeber....<br><br>YOu can follow the progress of you character sheet here.&nbsp; (Dev is complete)<br>https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227124.0<br><br><br>You can check for current turns here. (Everyone should, at this typing have turns waiting for them, even Bella)<br>https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227120.0<br><br><br>Very under developed, but i'm slllllllllllllllllllllllllllloooooowwly transfering campaign information to here (at Abigail's suggestion)<br>https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227271.0<br><br>Wont ever be more than 12 roses. Currently, if we count Ixy who should be coming along soon, 4 players, and 6 NPCs, so when the dust settles, there will only be (2) vacancies, so unless NPCs start dying off (they might) this is pretty close to the campaign size i'm expecting, maybe one or two more down the line but i'm pretty pleased with my current players.<br><br><br>
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 02:52:39</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11161850#msg11161850">Quote from: Phaia on 15-04-2015, 02:48:50</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"><strong>History of <em>'Lady Isabella Marie De`Guignes'</em></strong><br><br>Isabella has 3 brothers, one younger then her by two years, the oldest is 7 years older the middle brother though is about the same age as Cameron with Isabella a year younger. That brother, Arthur, herself and Cameron were as children the terrors of the palace. Anything Art and Cam tryed to do Mary [as Arthur and Cameron teasingly called her all the time] tryed as well. She was there when her Brother broke a leg on a dare from Cameron to climb a tower wall. She was there when Cameron broke an arm trying to ride his horse standing up on a dare from Art. She has a very faint scare on her right leg from where she fell trying to climb the rose wall of the main keep. They played, laughed and learned. They went skinny dipping in the royal gardens at night and were punished for it. She learned to use a Rapier fencing with them and when one day she beat them both with her quickness a week or so later Cameron presented her with a special made Rapier from the Royal armory [will work on that].<br>When the queen, died when Cameron was just 11, it was Art and Mary that helped console him. Mary often would take a queit walk with Cam in the Royal gardens and be the shoulder he could cry on with no one knowing.<br><br>Childhood does have to end and things change. Mary learned to kiss from both Cam and Art [it did not occure to her and or her brother that it may be wrong to do that later it was made very clear] as well as teenage groping. What really changed thier relationship was when Mary/Bella was caught late one night dancing naked on the king's throne with Art and Cam watching. It had been a dare and after all they had both seen her nude before. This time though she had bloomed into a very lovely girl/young woman. and they were both young lords/men.<br><br>Bella was sent off to learn the arts of a spellsinger from her mother's people there she also learned to disable things and since she as child had run and hid in many shadowy and sometimes secret places in the palace being able to get into the locked areas was useful. It was clear to her as the training went on that her mother had been a 'spy' for the late queen and the training she learned would stand in good stead should there ever be a need for it.<br><br>By the time the marriage, Bella knew a bit about the new queen though she had no idea why Cameron would marry so suddenily and with someone he barely knew. Rumors swirled around Isabella, it was said she had an affair with the prince now king some years earlier [kissing and some gropeing maybe a bit of oral]. That she has danced naked for a mercenary group, lies but she does not deny it. That she has had a string of lovers-not near as many as claimed. That she is carrying on with the captain of the Royal Guard a man many years her senoir. He did accompany her to a Royal Ball last year but mainly becuase her father asked her to go with him as a favor...<br><br>Bella dances can dance with laughter and she can flirt and tease but there is also a hardness to her that she hides... as well as hiding that is a witch of the old order.<br><br><hr><br>How is this for some background Angelic Kitten?<br><br>Phaia<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br><br>at a glance looks okay, (I need to look at it more closely after i clean up), what's Bella's relationship.&nbsp; are they related or unrelated, if you were playing in the palace you have to be pretty up there to have daily access like that.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 02:59:23</strong>
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				Oh... one more thing, witches aren't really looked down upon.&nbsp; In a world of magic, like anything else, there are good witches and bad ones, so it's not like it's anything you have to hide.&nbsp; I have to backtrack to confirm though, it's been over a year since i've game mastered this campaign, so certain details are fuzzy to me.<br><br>Your mother was a part of a (White)Cabal though, and blood would automatically extend an offer to Bella to join,&nbsp; If you do&nbsp; we'll have to work out those details.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 03:05:38</strong>
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				*<em>throws a flag on the field</em>*<br><br>I usually throw a flag down on the field when i realize something and i want peoples attention.<br><br>I just realized the obvious, that this is Elliquiy.&nbsp; I'm used to a RPOL environment which tends to run differently, so i believe i'm suppose to be at least asking to get a clue on what the Ons and Offs of my players are, and what they're hoping to get out of this campaign.<br><br>This important to me, because a key part of any sustained campaign is Fun, and to do that i need to know what youre hoping to get out of this.&nbsp; I think sharing with your fellow players would be good, but if youre shy drop me a Private message, as the game master, i really should know what youre hoping to get out of the campaign.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 03:15:52</strong>
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				Sorry I'm a bit slow getting to posting today. On the plus side, I have the full colour illustrated draft of my poetry book finished.<br><br>I have a link to my ons and offs in my signature, but I'm open to most things with the exception of stuff you wouldn't find on RPOL. Abigail's been straight thus far, but I don't mind her pursuing relationships with either a man or a woman. It would have to be something that forms naturally through the course of the game though rather than something pre-planned, because otherwise it wouldn't have that natural feeling to it. I'm not sure yet how she'll relate to the other characters.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 03:20:14</strong>
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				To my knowledge, no one is related to anyone before the campaign starts, which is fine.<br><br>You're not a well oiled machine, youre still in the box and awaiting assembly.<br><br>I figure its better this way, it's easier to roleplay 'who are you' , than roleplay a life time of experiences that dont exist.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 03:28:23</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11161937#msg11161937">Quote from: AmberStarfire on 15-04-2015, 03:15:52</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Sorry I'm a bit slow getting to posting today. On the plus side, I have the full colour illustrated draft of my poetry book finished.<br><br>I have a link to my ons and offs in my signature, but I'm open to most things with the exception of stuff you wouldn't find on RPOL. Abigail's been straight thus far, but I don't mind her pursuing relationships with either a man or a woman. It would have to be something that forms naturally through the course of the game though rather than something pre-planned, because otherwise it wouldn't have that natural feeling to it. I'm not sure yet how she'll relate to the other characters.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>(hugs)<br><br>Grats on the draft being finish, i got a cover done for Cindy too, so it was productive days for both of us.<br><br>Yeah...&nbsp; i've looked at ons and offs, and i still have trouble decoding some of the stuff, so i figured it'd be better to just ask outright.&nbsp; Mine is still mostly not filled in.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 03:31:09</strong>
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				*Hugs* and thanks Angelic Kitten. That's great news about the cover. Is it a superheroine one?<br><br>If you need any help with anything ons and offs-related, let me know. It's really in two places. One is on a person's profile page, you can click 'roleplaying preferences'. It will bring up information there. (You fill that information in your own via the Ons and Offs button/page). <br><br>There are also the ons and offs threads, so I have mine in both places.<br>
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 03:58:01</strong>
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				Yeah, it's what' i'm known for, it was a superheroine cover, the stories only have written but the cover is done, they paid me today, so i felt a little bad, but they prefer payment on delivery so that they dont have to wonder what's been paid for and not.<br><br>It seems quiet at the moment, so i'm going to post up how magic items and stuff are going to work on the world thread tonight.&nbsp; I think i've tuckered out Bella.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Phaia</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 04:11:25</strong>
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				Nope I am here just working on stuff including convincing a 5 year it is bed time with his father not helping!<br>Men ya cant get rid of them!!<br><br>Phaia
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 04:25:55</strong>
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				It's after 3 here so I think it's time I got some sleep but I'll come back and post tomorrow. <br><br>:)<br><br>I'll put together the images for that email I promised you too, Angelic Kitten. I just haven't got round to it yet.<br><br>Also, just a reminder you haven't updated Abi's Wisdom stat on her sheet yet.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 04:26:51</strong>
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				No worries Phaia, i remember those days, mine is 12 and goes to be with much less fuss.<br><br>I think i may be joining your five year old soon.<br><br>Unfortunate since Ixy is suppose to join us tonight.<br><br>Will review stuff tomorrow, but if she has any questions that you have the answer for, please convey the answer in my absence.<br><br>I know my character generation rules are a little quirky, but when it's all done, everyone should have something pretty close to what they want, and everything should be play balanced.<br><br>nite nite folks,<br><br>Oh, Phaia, i know you wont have a complete character, but i did post stuff for yo in the RP thread, you wont need anything this early in the campaign since much of it is roleplaying so dont let the minor detail that you dont have a complete sheet stop you from playing.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Phaia</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 04:27:09</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11161794#msg11161794">Quote from: Angelic Kitten on 15-04-2015, 02:30:45</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"><div class="floatright"><em><strong><span style="font-family: comic sans ms;" class="bbc_font">For:<br>(http://www.angelickitten.com/gal/avatar/isabella.jpg)<br>Isabella</span></strong></em></div><br><br>So noted.<br><br>You're allowed two traits, one of which will be Knight of the Rose, you may pick a second.<br><br>I'm presuming youre going to be a 2nd Level Spell Singer, and 1st Level Witch, for the following<br><br>You have selected weapon Finesse as your first level feat, at third level you are allowed a second Feat.&nbsp; Suggest looking at&nbsp; bardic or witch feats too?&nbsp; (Things like lingering performance, extra hexes, and Toughness, can all be useful things)<br><br><br>After this we do work through the spell singer stuff.<br>You know (5) Cantrips and (3) 1st level spells<br><br>After that we work through the Witch stuff.<br>Pick out a Familiar, and a Hex.<br>You know all common cantrips, and you may know (4) 1st Level spells<br><br><em>(It's strongly advised, that you fit healing of some sort in there, either under spell singing spells, or witchy spells, or hexes)</em><br><br>After that we pick skills,&nbsp; (7 skills for spell singer levels)(3 skills for witch levels),<br><br>After that, we deal with equipment.&nbsp; (You have 520 gold to spend)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Traits:<br>Knight of the Rose<br>Maestro of the Society (Bard, Society) --Singer of Songs-- Benefit: You may use bardic performance 3 additional rounds per day.<br>2nd Feat: Spellsong-- Benefit: You can combine your bardic performance and your spellcasting in two ways. <br>First, you can conceal the activity of casting a bard spell by masking it in a performance. As a swift action, you may combine your casting time of a spell with a Perform check. Observers must make a Perception or Sense Motive check opposed by your Perform check to realize you are also casting a spell. This uses 1 round of your bardic performance ability, regardless of the spell's casting time.<br>Second, as a move action, you can use 1 round of bardic performance to maintain a bard spell with a duration of concentration. You can cast another spell in the same round you are using bardic magic to maintain concentration; if you do this, your concentration on the maintained spell ends when you end the bardic performance the spell is part of.<br><br>2nd level Spellsinger/1st level Witch<br><br>Spellsinger 2nd level:<br>Cast: 1st-5 // Known-3<br>Cantrips: Known-5<br>Cantrips: Mage Hand, Prestidigitation, Message, Ghost Sound, Dancing Lights<br>1st Level: Cure Light Wounds, Chord of Shards, Vanish<br><br>Witch 1st Level<br>Familiar-- White cat--Master gains a +3 bonus on Stealth checks<br>Patron--Endurance<br>Cast: 3 / 2<br>Cantrips: Known-- All<br>1st level: Known-- 4: Comprehend Languages, Detect Secret Doors, Fumbletongue, Identify<br>Hex: Evil Eye<br><br><br>More to follow:<br><br>Phaia
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 04:28:01</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11162163#msg11162163">Quote from: AmberStarfire on 15-04-2015, 04:25:55</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">It's after 3 here so I think it's time I got some sleep but I'll come back and post tomorrow. <br><br>:)<br><br>I'll put together the images for that email I promised you too, Angelic Kitten. I just haven't got round to it yet.<br><br>Also, just a reminder you haven't updated Abi's Wisdom stat on her sheet yet.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Yeah~ go to bed, nothing that cant wait for tomorrow.<br><br>Oh, right, actually i havent updated a lot of Abi's stuff yet, will get to it soon though promise.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 04:38:21</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11162169#msg11162169">Quote from: Phaia on 15-04-2015, 04:27:09</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Traits:<br>Knight of the Rose<br>Maestro of the Society (Bard, Society) --Singer of Songs-- Benefit: You may use bardic performance 3 additional rounds per day.<br>2nd Feat: Spellsong-- Benefit: You can combine your bardic performance and your spellcasting in two ways. <br>First, you can conceal the activity of casting a bard spell by masking it in a performance. As a swift action, you may combine your casting time of a spell with a Perform check. Observers must make a Perception or Sense Motive check opposed by your Perform check to realize you are also casting a spell. This uses 1 round of your bardic performance ability, regardless of the spell's casting time.<br>Second, as a move action, you can use 1 round of bardic performance to maintain a bard spell with a duration of concentration. You can cast another spell in the same round you are using bardic magic to maintain concentration; if you do this, your concentration on the maintained spell ends when you end the bardic performance the spell is part of.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>ugh~<br><br>These dont feel like normal traits and feats to me.&nbsp; Please provide me with links back to source so i can review them for source and appropriate nature for the campaign.&nbsp; Please dont be upset with me, but i reserve the right to decline these selections.<br><br>Quick note, just keep in mind that your Spell singer cantrips are 'better' than your witch cantrips.&nbsp; You will always have access to them, as opposed to having selected them for the day through your cat.&nbsp; You will also be able to cast them without fear of arcane failure, which, depending on the armor you end up wearing, may be a concern for your witchy cantrips.<br><br>Im fine with you taking a white cat, name the cat, if you like.&nbsp; We will split ownership and control of your cat.&nbsp; So you have control over what they do say, and may roleplay conversations with it, but it is an independent living creature and i reserve the right to exert it's freewill now and then, possibly taking it on to converse with you about things.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Phaia</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 05:00:02</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11162226#msg11162226">Quote from: Angelic Kitten on 15-04-2015, 04:38:21</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">ugh~<br><br>These dont feel like normal traits and feats to me.&nbsp; Please provide me with links back to source so i can review them for source and appropriate nature for the campaign.&nbsp; Please dont be upset with me, but i reserve the right to decline these selections.<br><br>Quick note, just keep in mind that your Spell singer cantrips are 'better' than your witch cantrips.&nbsp; You will always have access to them, as opposed to having selected them for the day through your cat.&nbsp; You will also be able to cast them without fear of arcane failure, which, depending on the armor you end up wearing, may be a concern for your witchy cantrips.<br><br>Im fine with you taking a white cat, name the cat, if you like.&nbsp; We will split ownership and control of your cat.&nbsp; So you have control over what they do say, and may roleplay conversations with it, but it is an independent living creature and i reserve the right to exert it's freewill now and then, possibly taking it on to converse with you about things.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I am not upset at all hun, I fully understand that you may not know the feats or traits I listed<br><br>Feat: <br>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/spellsong<br>Trait:<br>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/social-traits/maestro-of-society<br><br>The cat Isabella has named Luna since it shines like the moon at night!<br>And yes I know the spellsinger cantrips can be better I choose them carefully but may change one... I had taken ghost sound to use with silent image...but alas did not have enough 1st level spells to take silent image.<br>So I may change that one<br><br>Phaia
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 05:54:42</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11162296#msg11162296">Quote from: Phaia on 15-04-2015, 05:00:02</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">And yes I know the spellsinger cantrips can be better I choose them carefully but may change one... I had taken ghost sound to use with silent image...but alas did not have enough 1st level spells to take silent image.<br>So I may change that one<br><br>Phaia<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>You could always take Silent Image in place of CLW, and make CLW one of your witchy spells?
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 06:02:42</strong>
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				Character sheet updated with class stuff, please select default spells memorized from your witchy list.&nbsp; They can change in the adventure, but unless you want to start with no spells memorized, i need to jot down what you 'currently' have ready to cast.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Phaia</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 06:02:59</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11162485#msg11162485">Quote from: Angelic Kitten on 15-04-2015, 05:54:42</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">You could always take Silent Image in place of CLW, and make CLW one of your witchy spells?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>It is something I am considering. There are pros and cons, less times that can be cast and have to be memorized as a witch but opens a very useful spell as a bard.<br>I am thinking about going with extra hex as my 2nd feat so if you have a problem with Spellsong that is find, I can switch it out.<br>Also I am going to do a post in the main thread and hope it's alright since I am adding color to the history<br><br>By the way if you like Arthur her brother that is about the same age as Cameron was going to be part of the guard and could now be part of the royal guard since Art and Cam were friends since childhood. <br>I was going to have the meeting at the pond in the royal garden...I hope there is one since all gardens should have a pond with geese and ducks and places to sail paper boats etc<br><br>Phaia
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Phaia</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 06:28:21</strong>
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				questions and more questions hun!&nbsp; O:) O:)<br><br>How old is Cameron? Bella would be about a year or so younger. <br>How did the former queen die? I was placing it around the time when Cameron was 11 but that was for me and can be changed. <br>How far along did you want to see Cam and Mary's relationship go? I can see not only kissing and groping but some fumbling sex as teenagers if you like? maybe just before the 'incident' in the throne room or just after<br>I see Isabella being the one that paid for that dare. [dancing naked on the throne while cam and art watched]. Paid in that she was the one sent away for 'speical schooling' ie spellsinger and white cabel. She would have sent Cam a letter apoglizing for getting him in trouble. I am sure the then king would have made it clear to Cameron that Bella was NOT of the status one should consider and he did not want a bastard child of Camerons floating around.<br><br>If Okay her eldest Brother , Henry II, is a knight in some order and her youngest brother is follwoing in father's footsteps and learning to be a civil servent.<br><br>Was Isabella at the great marriage ball last year? If so did Cameron and her meet? I can wing that part if you like and have some ideas on it.<br><br>I will work up the witch spells next and what she has memorized.<br><br>Phaia
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 06:36:54</strong>
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				I'm going by the twilight game, characters started at like 15 and we moved in real time,so if i'm keeping the formula straight, Adhafera should be 20 years old now, and Cameron was a year older so he's 21.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Phaia</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 06:41:16</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11162604#msg11162604">Quote from: Angelic Kitten on 15-04-2015, 06:36:54</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'm going by the twilight game, characters started at like 15 and we moved in real time,so if i'm keeping the formula straight, Adhafera should be 20 years old now, and Cameron was a year older so he's 21.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Great that means Isabella is 20 as well and it has been about 5 years since Cameron last saw her! <br><br>Phaia
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 06:49:22</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11162568#msg11162568">Quote from: Phaia on 15-04-2015, 06:28:21</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">questions and more questions hun!&nbsp; O:) O:)<br><br>How old is Cameron? Bella would be about a year or so younger. <br>Bella would be around 20 then.<br><br>How did the former queen die? I was placing it around the time when Cameron was 11 but that was for me and can be changed. <br>She was visiting the Franco Isles with Edmond.&nbsp; Her death was in the might in her sleep, the Francs were blamed, and relations were chilly for a very long time, they've only recently starting warming.&nbsp; Following your time line that would put it at 10 years ago, that works.&nbsp; The order was disbanded at her death, and seen as partially their failure since part of their duty was to see to her safety.&nbsp; A decade later with a new queen, it reforms.&nbsp; The timeline works.<br><br>How far along did you want to see Cam and Mary's relationship go? I can see not only kissing and groping but some fumbling sex as teenagers if you like? maybe just before the 'incident' in the throne room or just after<br>I see Isabella being the one that paid for that dare. [dancing naked on the throne while cam and art watched]. Paid in that she was the one sent away for 'speical schooling' ie spellsinger and white cabel. She would have sent Cam a letter apoglizing for getting him in trouble. I am sure the then king would have made it clear to Cameron that Bella was NOT of the status one should consider and he did not want a bastard child of Camerons floating around.<br><br>There's a lot we can do here.&nbsp; Historically Cam was raised to be a gentleman, came to Adhafera's aid and a brief but intense adventure led to strong feelings coming out and shortly after a proposal.&nbsp; Isabella wasnt in the formula at the time, and the tone of the campaign made impulsive proposal more acceptable.&nbsp; What Cameron feels, he'll feel.&nbsp; The question is, what does Bella feel?<br><br>If Okay her eldest Brother , Henry II, is a knight in some order and her youngest brother is follwoing in father's footsteps and learning to be a civil servent.<br><br>Creed's Inquisitors are respected (and feared), they're the civilian law keeping force deployed by the KIng like polieman.&nbsp; The Son of Sol, are Paladin ish, and are more military oriented geared for war than civilian problems.&nbsp; You can pick.<br><br>Was Isabella at the great marriage ball last year? If so did Cameron and her meet? I can wing that part if you like and have some ideas on it.<br><br>She was invited, it's your call if she attended.&nbsp; She would have at least met at the receptionand gotten a few words traded, if she really wanted to try she probably could have gotten a dance with him somewhere along the way.<br><br>I will work up the witch spells next and what she has memorized.<br>No rush.&nbsp; I dont predict you to need them, but in the middle of roleplay you never know what will come in handy.<br><br>I'm going to suggest for equipment she get a Master Work Rapier, Like i told Dev, I wouldnt worry about the armor too much.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 06:50:43</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11162618#msg11162618">Quote from: Phaia on 15-04-2015, 06:41:16</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Great that means Isabella is 20 as well and it has been about 5 years since Cameron last saw her! <br><br>Phaia<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>o.O<br><br>She just got in town?&nbsp; I was under the impression she was around for a while now.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Phaia</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 18:54:34</strong>
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				First offgood afternoon everyone!<br><br>Angelic Kitten I did some thinking last night and this morning and realized I was being a blonde and not thinking things through correctly. <br>I am making several changes to Bella as follows.<br><br><hr>2rp Flexible Ability-- +2 Dexterity and +2 Charisma<br>2rp Skill Bonus-- +2 racial to Diplomacy<br>2rp Skill Bonus-- +2 racial to Perform-Sing<br>1rp Spell-Like Ability, Lesser {Faerie Fire} (x1/Day)<br>2rp Dark Vision 60'<br>1rp Energy Resistance {5 points of Cold Resistance}<br><br><br>str&nbsp; &nbsp; 10<br>Dex&nbsp; 13 [3ap]<br>Con&nbsp; 10<br>Int&nbsp; &nbsp; 13 [3ap]<br>wis&nbsp; &nbsp;10<br>cha&nbsp; &nbsp;12 [2ap]<br><br>Bonus +1 dex<br>Bonus +1 int<br>Racial +2 dex/+2 cha<br><br>Final<br>Str&nbsp; 10<br>Dex 16 [+3 ac]<br>con 10<br>Int&nbsp; 14&nbsp; [+2 spell witch/+2 skill pointper level]&nbsp; <br>wis&nbsp; 10<br>Cha 14&nbsp; [+2 bard spells]<br><br>Hitpoints: Bard max 2levels= 16+1d6 [if you like please roll for the witch HP I am good with that]<br><br>Feat- Weapon Finesse<br>Feat- Extra Hex- cackle<br><br>Traits:<br>Knight of the Rose<br>Maestro of the Society (Bard, Society) -- Benefit: You may use bardic performance 3 additional rounds per day. [hopefully you will allow this one]<br>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/social-traits/maestro-of-society<br><br>2nd level Spellsinger/1st level Witch<br><br>Spellsinger 2nd level:<br>Cast: 1st-4 // Known-3<br>Cantrips: Known-5<br>Cantrips: Mage Hand, Prestidigitation, Message, Ghost Sound, Dancing Lights<br>1st Level: Cure Light Wounds, Grease, Silent Image<br><br>Witch 1st Level<br>Familiar-- White cat--Master gains a +3 bonus on Stealth checks<br>Patron--Endurance<br>Cast: 3 / 3<br>Cantrips: Known-- All<br>Memorized: Daze, Guidance, Resistance<br>1st level: Known-- 5: Charm Person, Ear Peircing Scream, Frostbite, Hypnotism, Mage Armor<br>Memorized: Charm Person, Hypnotism, Mage Armor<br>Hex: Evil Eye<br>Hex: Cackle<br><br>Favored Class Bonus +3 sp<br>Skills:<br>Bard 6+2 SP/Level =16<br>Witch 2+2 SP/Level= 4<br>Total 23<br>Bard Skills:<br>Skill point+Class skill+Att Mod+Racial+Misc<br>Perform-Sing: 3+3+2+2=&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;10* [Versatile Performance- Bluff/Sense Motive]<br>Perform-Flute: 1+3+2=&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 6<br>Perform- Dance: 1+3+2=&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;6<br>*Bluff&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 10<br>*Sense Motive&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 10<br>Diplomacy: 1+3+2+2=&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;8<br>Perception: 3+3=&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;6<br>Stealth: 1+3+3+3*=&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 10 [*familiar bonus]<br>Knowledge: Euro: 1+3+2+1= 7 [Northwind]<br>Knowledge: Religion: 1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;=&nbsp; 7<br>Knowledge: arcana: 1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =&nbsp; &nbsp;7<br>Knowledge: Other nations: 1= 7<br>Spellcraft: 3+3+2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =&nbsp; &nbsp;8<br>Use magic Device: 3+3+2&nbsp; =&nbsp; &nbsp;8<br>Sleight of hand: 1+3+3=&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;7<br>Disable device: 2+0+3=&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 5<br><br><hr><br>AK!<br>I am not sure how you figure prices for MW weapon.<br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"><em>MASTERWORK WEAPONS</em><br>The cost for Masterwork weapons may be calculated normally or by the following alternate method.<br>Use the base cost of the weapon listed in the PHB, and multiplied by 20 (Double weapons are multiplied by 40)</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>iF i understand this correctly a MW dagger become very cheap ie 2gpx20=40gp for MW dagger [nice]<br>But with your method a rapier becomes very expensive 20x20= 400gp<br><br>So how about this, I will tell ya what I would like Bella to have and you tell me if she has the gp.<br>MW Rapier [given her by Cameron some years ago made in the palace forge-- if possible some diffiernt metal if nothing else a different color- also has her family crest--perhaps a name he gave it...in a way it was his first 'gift' to Bella]<br>Short bow +arrows<br>a couple of daggers [MW if possible]<br>The stylish leather armor<br>A very nice dress [will be worn to the meeting] that can have peices added or removed so as to be versitale with her magic able to alter its color [Prestidigitation] silk etc ...I have an image i was planning on using for it <br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Spoiler: Click to Show/Hide</div><div class="spoiler_body">(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd394/Vithe_rothe/private/borgias3_zpskrzzirv3.jpg)</div></div><br>Various peices of cheap jewelry that looks nice<br>misc other equipment<br><br><hr>Hopefully this will be enough to get things rolling<br><br>Phaia
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				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 19:19:02</strong>
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				<del>You are cutting out any pretense of healing with your character, which i suspect you may regret down the line, your character is legal, so i have no problems withher as she mostly stands.</del>&nbsp; &nbsp;nevermind i'm wrong on this point.<br><br><br>I still need to reveal that trait, i'm hoping it's not tied to a specific organization, which may be a problem, since that might be campaign dependant, and this is a homebrewed campaign that may not have them in existence.<br><br>(I think someone else bought that trait up, i'm going to have to revisit my notes)<br><br>At most, 2 points from favored class bonus, and i'm reviewing if there was a rule on using favored class to pick up spells, which you might prefer over skills, again i need to look at old notes for this.<br><br>Will have to look at skills harder, all i really wanted was skill ranks, i would have noted the ability scores and other bonus's separately, at the start i just want to make sure you spent the skill ranks you were suppose to spend.&nbsp; I know you thought you did me a favor adding it all up, but i'm going to have to un add them up now to make sure the math works.<br><br><br><hr><br>Masterwork weapons are capped at 300gp, which is what they cost for core rules, the house rules is there to make equipment cheaper and more affordable in a coin poor campaign<br><br>Dagger would have been 42gp btw, 40gp for MW cost, plue 2gp for original cost.<br><br>MW Rapier would be 20gp base cost plus 300gp for MW cost, so 320gp for a MW Rapier.<br><br>save your money on the armor is my suggestion, you'll get a MW dagger along the way, if you wanted more than one, picking up spares is fine.&nbsp; Bella probably doesnt have any clothes of her own of that quality, but you can probably go through your mom's old clothes for something appropriate, it's something you do only for very rare occasions.&nbsp; (You wont need to do it often, after you become a rose, you can just use prestige for nice closthes that you need, presuming you dont mangle the clothes when you return it, the prestige spent to 'borrow' it comes back too.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 19:35:33</strong>
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				ummm....<br><br>First level witches normally have one first level spell, plus one for In bonus makes two.<br><br>You have three spells picked out, am i missing something?
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 19:54:46</strong>
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				Looked over stuff for your Rapier, you cant afford to have it crafted from anything too exotic.<br><br>Mitheral is 500gp <br><br>and Glassteel would have multiplied the cost by 50 or 200 the cost to 1000gp and 4000gp.<br><br>on your budget, not happening for a Rapier.<br><br><br>Now... if you want to look at a Dagger, that's a different story.<br><br>Base cost of a dagger = 2 gp + 40gp to make it master work + 100gp to make it glassteel,brings the cost to 142gp.<br><br><br>[quote Glassteel]<span style="font-family: courier;" class="bbc_font">The elves have mastered creating beautiful and deceptively deadly weapons out of glass.&nbsp; This clear material is extremely sharp, and can be shaped into a variety of weapons that do piercing and slashing damage.<br><br>Glassteel weapons, are capable of slicing through the toughest of hides. A Glassteel weapon ignores half of the armor bonus granted by armor (round up).</span>[/quote]<br><br>
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 20:49:32</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Posted...sorry it took so long.&nbsp; Work and muse coming together.&nbsp; Posted though ^_^
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 21:08:21</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				No worries, Dark, if you ever get stuck on a post, simply drop by here and 'pass' and i'll move on, or ask for a prompt on what youre suppose to do.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Phaia</strong> on <strong>15-04-2015, 23:57:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11163957#msg11163957">Quote from: Angelic Kitten on 15-04-2015, 19:35:33</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">ummm....<br><br>First level witches normally have one first level spell, plus one for In bonus makes two.<br><br>You have three spells picked out, am i missing something?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>My bad I was thinking that making int a 14 gained me a 2nd spell... it was a blonde moment, for now drop mage armor that is not needed...I hope<br><br>Phaia
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Phaia</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 00:01:03</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11164007#msg11164007">Quote from: Angelic Kitten on 15-04-2015, 19:54:46</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Looked over stuff for your Rapier, you cant afford to have it crafted from anything too exotic.<br><br>Mitheral is 500gp <br><br>and Glassteel would have multiplied the cost by 50 or 200 the cost to 1000gp and 4000gp.<br><br>on your budget, not happening for a Rapier.<br><br><br>Now... if you want to look at a Dagger, that's a different story.<br><br>Base cost of a dagger = 2 gp + 40gp to make it master work + 100gp to make it glassteel,brings the cost to 142gp.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>A glass steel dagger sounds lovely [a matched set would be great]--- and that could have been the Gift from Cameron?<br><br>Rapier is okay as a normal blade.<br><br>Everything else is cool by me.<br><br>Phaia
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Phaia</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 00:19:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11163920#msg11163920">Quote from: Angelic Kitten on 15-04-2015, 19:19:02</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"><del>You are cutting out any pretense of healing with your character, which i suspect you may regret down the line, your character is legal, so i have no problems withher as she mostly stands.</del>&nbsp; &nbsp;nevermind i'm wrong on this point.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>As you probally noticed I left Cure Lights as a bard spell [which can be cast up to 4 times in a day-- *sighs* I had hoped not to loose a spell when I switched INT and Cha but it ended up being that way]<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11163920#msg11163920">Quote from: Angelic Kitten on 15-04-2015, 19:19:02</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I still need to reveal that trait, i'm hoping it's not tied to a specific organization, which may be a problem, since that might be campaign dependant, and this is a homebrewed campaign that may not have them in existence.<br><br>(I think someone else bought that trait up, i'm going to have to revisit my notes)</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>The extra Bardic Performances would be very useful but if it is a problem [which it seems to be] then I can change it out.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">At most, 2 points from favored class bonus, and i'm reviewing if there was a rule on using favored class to pick up spells, which you might prefer over skills, again i need to look at old notes for this.<br><br>Will have to look at skills harder, all i really wanted was skill ranks, i would have noted the ability scores and other bonus's separately, at the start i just want to make sure you spent the skill ranks you were suppose to spend.&nbsp; I know you thought you did me a favor adding it all up, but i'm going to have to un add them up now to make sure the math works.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I missed that 2 for favored class...I do remember asking about that with taking a duel class. <br>I will make an adjusted skill list with only the SPs spent<br><br>As for extra spells certain races gain that as an optional favored class bonus...human I believe was one..maybe Half elf as well<br><br><hr><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Masterwork weapons are capped at 300gp, which is what they cost for core rules, the house rules is there to make equipment cheaper and more affordable in a coin poor campaign<br><br>Dagger would have been 42gp btw, 40gp for MW cost, plue 2gp for original cost.<br><br>MW Rapier would be 20gp base cost plus 300gp for MW cost, so 320gp for a MW Rapier.<br><br>save your money on the armor is my suggestion, you'll get a MW dagger along the way, if you wanted more than one, picking up spares is fine.&nbsp; Bella probably doesnt have any clothes of her own of that quality, but you can probably go through your mom's old clothes for something appropriate, it's something you do only for very rare occasions.&nbsp; (You wont need to do it often, after you become a rose, you can just use prestige for nice closthes that you need, presuming you dont mangle the clothes when you return it, the prestige spent to 'borrow' it comes back too.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I am pretty easy on this and&nbsp; can go with your suggestions. Sure she can have raided her mother's wardrobe , which does imply they are very close to being the same size. BTW on that note did you want an image for her mother Joanna?<br>Unless the cloths somehow get ripped off her, which she might enjoy&nbsp; &gt;:) , They would be returned!<br>Bella is also taking Disable devices and will need some lockpicks/trap removal gear!<br><br>How I have to decide if lossing a spell slot with Spellsinger [dropping cha to 14] is worth the extra INT [+3 sp, +1 witch spell known, +1 Witch dc] HMMMmmm!<br><br>Phaia
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Phaia</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 00:27:43</strong>
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				I hope this works out better!<br><br>Favored Class Bonus +2 sp<br>Skills:<br>Bard 6+2 SP/Level =16<br>Witch 2+2 SP/Level= 4<br>Total 22<br><br>Skill point<br>Perform-Sing:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;10* [Versatile Performance- Bluff/Sense Motive] +2 race bonus<br>Perform-Flute:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;6<br>*Bluff&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; *&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;10<br>*Sense Motive&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;*&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 10<br>Diplomacy:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;8 +2 race bonus<br>Perception:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;6<br>Stealth:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;10 +3 familiar bonus]<br>Knowledge: Euro:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;7 [Northwind] +1 Bard bonus [1/2 level]<br>Knowledge: Religion:&nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;7 +1 bard bonus<br>Knowledge: arcana:&nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;7 +1 bard bonus<br>Knowledge: Other nations: 1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 7 +1 bard bonus<br>Spellcraft:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;8<br>Use magic Device:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;8<br>Sleight of hand:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;7<br>Disable device:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;5 [currently non class]<br><br><br>Phaia<br>
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 00:35:22</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				I think I may have missed a fair bit of the content of messages here. Angelic Kitten, pls let me know what you still need me to do for Abigail. I know that it includes her equipment list. I'm going to get that email off to you, and then post for here.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 02:16:30</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="floatright"><em><strong><span style="font-family: comic sans ms;" class="bbc_font">For:<br>(http://www.angelickitten.com/gal/avatar/abigail.jpg)<br>Abigail<br>Elysia<br>Reinhardt</span></strong></em></div>wow deal with dinner and youre behind stuff.<br><br>mmmm...<br><br>(hugs Abi)<br><br>I think i'm the one behind.&nbsp; I need to sit and update abi, if i have questions i need to ask you about them.&nbsp; I think her most trademark equipment is going to be master work chain so that you can cast spell with only a 10% arc failure (like 400gp), unless you want to be in free leather with 0 arcane failure (much cheaper, like free.)&nbsp; &nbsp;Either way you would have enough for your beloved horse, which i think was a big thing for you, then some 'mundane' weapons and you were sort of done.<br>
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 02:23:31</strong>
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				<div class="floatright"><em><strong><span style="font-family: comic sans ms;" class="bbc_font">For:<br>(http://www.angelickitten.com/gal/avatar/isabella.jpg)<br>Isabella</span></strong></em></div><br>What did you want for equipment...<br><br>(2) Glassteel MW Daggers, and a normal Rapier, or a MW Rapier and (1) Glassteel MW Dagger?<br><br>The Glassteel is nice for actuallly hitting, but... it still only does a D4 damage.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 02:25:00</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Can I go for a broadsword instead of a rapier?<br><br>MW if possible.<br><br>Yeah she'd wear chainmail.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 02:43:36</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="floatright"><em><strong><span style="font-family: comic sans ms;" class="bbc_font">For:<br>(http://www.angelickitten.com/gal/avatar/abigail.jpg)<br>Abigail<br>Elysia<br>Reinhardt</span></strong></em></div>wow deal with dinner and youre behind stuff.<br><br><br>No official stats for a Broadsword, i believe the book said to use a Longsword template and call it a Broadsword, if that's your want we can do that.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 02:45:16</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah if it's not going to mess with any of her other stats (I mean they won't be weakened or the wrong stat won't be applied because of her change of weapon) then it's good with me.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Phaia</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 03:11:38</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11165115#msg11165115">Quote from: Angelic Kitten on 16-04-2015, 02:23:31</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"><div class="floatright"><em><strong><span style="font-family: comic sans ms;" class="bbc_font">For:<br>(http://www.angelickitten.com/gal/avatar/isabella.jpg)<br>Isabella</span></strong></em></div><br>What did you want for equipment...<br><br>(2) Glassteel MW Daggers, and a normal Rapier, or a MW Rapier and (1) Glassteel MW Dagger?<br><br>The Glassteel is nice for actuallly hitting, but... it still only does a D4 damage.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>If this is for Isabella then go with the MW Rapier and the Glassteel MW dagger. Doing only a D4 isnt bad in a low level game...and it is easy to carry when a longer blade may not be good.<br><br>Phaia
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Phaia</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 03:14:07</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				BTW AK...<br>Correction on the CS...<br>Spellsinger with the 14 cha can cast 4 spells per day but only know 3<br><br>Phaia
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 03:22:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11164816#msg11164816">Quote from: Phaia on 16-04-2015, 00:19:06</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I am pretty easy on this and&nbsp; can go with your suggestions. Sure she can have raided her mother's wardrobe , which does imply they are very close to being the same size. BTW on that note did you want an image for her mother Joanna?<br>Unless the cloths somehow get ripped off her, which she might enjoy&nbsp; &gt;:) , They would be returned!<br>Bella is also taking Disable devices and will need some lockpicks/trap removal gear!<br><br>How I have to decide if lossing a spell slot with Spellsinger [dropping cha to 14] is worth the extra INT [+3 sp, +1 witch spell known, +1 Witch dc] HMMMmmm!<br><br>Phaia<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Yes, daughters often raid their mums wardrobe.&nbsp; Why should Bella be any different.<br><br>Disable device is actually a Rogue only skill, if you want it, this might kill two birds with one stone.&nbsp; One of the traits gave you a bonus to disable device and made it a class skill, i forget which.&nbsp; We slip that trait in, and it'll save you the hassle of taking a level of rogue for the skill, good?<br><br>You do have a few extra levels to go where you get a few more ability points for each level, so it's not set in stone.<br><br>
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 03:28:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11165263#msg11165263">Quote from: Phaia on 16-04-2015, 03:14:07</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">BTW AK...<br>Correction on the CS...<br>Spellsinger with the 14 cha can cast 4 spells per day but only know 3<br><br>Phaia<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>um....<br>abilty modifers...<br><br>at 12 +1 first level spell<br>at 14 + 1 second level spell<br><br>Bella doesn know any second level spells, so it doesnt benefit her.<br><br>Bards dont get second level spells till level 4.<br><br><br>Theres a house rule that puts a '0' for second level spells at 3rd level though, allowing you to use the bonus at third level, but currently the 14 wont help how many spells you have.&nbsp; Pretty standard PF stuff...?
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Phaia</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 03:30:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11165296#msg11165296">Quote from: Angelic Kitten on 16-04-2015, 03:22:21</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Yes, daughters often raid their mums wardrobe.&nbsp; Why should Bella be any different.<br><br>Disable device is actually a Rogue only skill, if you want it, this might kill two birds with one stone.&nbsp; One of the traits gave you a bonus to disable device and made it a class skill, i forget which.&nbsp; We slip that trait in, and it'll save you the hassle of taking a level of rogue for the skill, good?<br><br>You do have a few extra levels to go where you get a few more ability points for each level, so it's not set in stone.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>The trait you are probally looking for is this one<br>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/religion-traits/nimble-fingers-keen-mind<br><br>I can deal with that-- drops 3 bardic preformances off- though honestly I do not often use bardic performance so we will see how it works out<br><br>*I had detailed somewhat that Bella had a brother, Arthur, that was a close friend to Cameron....i did not say what he was doing now...but had figured he could have joined the guard and may be now part of Cameron's personal guard since they were long time friends.?<br><br>I will hopefully have a reply for you up tonight...have to make the boy take his bath yet and get him in bed....and I may have to injure his father...<br><br>Phaia
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Phaia</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 03:34:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11165312#msg11165312">Quote from: Angelic Kitten on 16-04-2015, 03:28:04</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">um....<br>abilty modifers...<br><br>at 12 +1 first level spell<br>at 14 + 1 second level spell<br><br>Bella doesn know any second level spells, so it doesnt benefit her.<br><br>Bards dont get second level spells till level 4.<br><br><br>Theres a house rule that puts a '0' for second level spells at 3rd level though, allowing you to use the bonus at third level, but currently the 14 wont help how many spells you have.&nbsp; Pretty standard PF stuff...?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>&nbsp;:-[ Another blonde moment...geez I was thinking the modifer instead of actaul spells listed ~rolls her eyes~ so down to 3 bard spells to cast and 2 witch spells [hyptonize and charm person memorized]<br><br>BTW can we get wands...a Cure lights wand would be very useful...as would a mage armor one<br><br>Phaia
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Phaia</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 03:39:40</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				BTW my 3rd level Feat was Extra Hex- Cackle<br>leave the twin daggers as is dont bother making the rapier MW ...everything else works great<br><br>Phaia
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 03:42:35</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				EXCEPT for skills, i think i have Dev and Bella pretty updated, i need to give Abigail a harder look and find the trait that lets you use disable traps as a class skill (unless Bella beats me to it).<br><br>Mission one isnt really a mission its more of a prelude, it's more of a get interviewed, and get accepted as an active rose.&nbsp; You may pick an adjective to go with your rose title, which is suppose to be what your Rose is known for...<br><br>Flirty Rose, Rebel Rose, Thorny Rose, whatever.&nbsp; It's not mandatory, but if you feel inclined to personalize your title as a rose, that's your chance.<br><br>Upon that time, you'll be tailored and fitted for your dress leathers, which are masterwork leather's tailored to the wearer's specifications.&nbsp; (You may specify how you want the master work bonus' applied)&nbsp; They are stylish and practical, and as roses that must be prepared for anything, (unless otherwise specified) accepted as dress clothes for any occassion.<br><br>You will also be issued a Rose's Thorn, which is a Master work Glassteel dagger, that has been imbued to with Magic Weapon (1/day) so that you will always have a weapon capable of harming your foe.&nbsp; The dagger is ornate&nbsp; and will actually serve as a means to identify yourself as a Rose to each other and those that you meet that are may question your authority.<br><br>If you do not have a residence in Northwind, quarters will be arranged for you in the city (a permanent room at the inn that Abigail is in.)<br><br><br>Mostly telling you this because there really should be no dangerous encounters between now and the end of the adventure, and this will be considered your 'treasure'&nbsp; for joining the order.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 03:44:20</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11165352#msg11165352">Quote from: Phaia on 16-04-2015, 03:39:40</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">BTW my 3rd level Feat was Extra Hex- Cackle<br>leave the twin daggers as is dont bother making the rapier MW ...everything else works great<br><br>Phaia<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Yeah, i was looking at that, you're going to be getting a third one, they're nice, and having extras to throw around an emergency melee weapon isnt a bad thing.&nbsp; They're a nice roleplaying prop as well.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 03:51:35</strong>
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				To my knowledge roleplaying is up....&nbsp; I'm hoping that you'll all be active roses by the end of the month, and given your first tasks.<br><br>There will be three task... you work out among you who gets what, if you cant work it out Adhafera (me) will decide who gets what assignments.<br><br>You'll also get to pick which NPC rose you want as a partner for your first assignment.&nbsp; Picking from amongAllison, Bethany and Joanne.<br><br>surprise~&nbsp; for those of you that thought you were playing together.&nbsp; You are, i just want to get all the characters shook out and get a feel for the players as well as the characters.&nbsp; Watch the posting habits and make sure that when players partner to do something that they all have roughly the same post speed.&nbsp; If we find that we have a really acute difference in post speed, the solution is to just not have you meet too often.&nbsp; Abigail will vouch that i use track several dozen characters in the twilight campaign, so tracking three should be cake for me to keep up with.<br><br>So even though this is a group game, and it's very possible for you to meet and play out missions together, it wont happen immediately, and depending on play styles, might never happen.&nbsp; Sorta like... a group solo game... almost...&nbsp; After things get settled if youre all amendable, i do plan on sending the three player roses out together for some task or another and if it works out well you'll be recognized as 'works well together' and be assigned together more often.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 03:54:56</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11165352#msg11165352">Quote from: Phaia on 16-04-2015, 03:39:40</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">BTW my 3rd level Feat was Extra Hex- Cackle<br>leave the twin daggers as is dont bother making the rapier MW ...everything else works great<br><br>Phaia<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br><del>yup if you click on extra feat, Cackle comes up.</del><br><br>nvm, i see.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Phaia</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 04:14:07</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11165362#msg11165362">Quote from: Angelic Kitten on 16-04-2015, 03:42:35</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Flirty Rose, Rebel Rose, Thorny Rose, whatever.&nbsp; It's not mandatory, but if you feel inclined to personalize your title as a rose, that's your chance.<br><br>Upon that time, you'll be tailored and fitted for your dress leathers, which are masterwork leather's tailored to the wearer's specifications.&nbsp; (You may specify how you want the master work bonus' applied)&nbsp; They are stylish and practical, and as roses that must be prepared for anything, (unless otherwise specified) accepted as dress clothes for any occassion.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>would it be possible that instead of one being issued, that when her mother finds out Isabella is to be a Rose, she gives Bella her old armor...could easy be the same type but slightly different style and has a heritage.<br>Also was thinking of Midnight Rose as her 'Title' since she is a bit of a 'rogueish' type and less concerned about laws and order then most. [maybe even inheirating the name from her mother]<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">You will also be issued a Rose's Thorn, which is a Master work Glassteel dagger, that has been imbued to with Magic Weapon (1/day) so that you will always have a weapon capable of harming your foe.&nbsp; The dagger is ornate&nbsp; and will actually serve as a means to identify yourself as a Rose to each other and those that you meet that are may question your authority.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>To go with that theme could the Glassteel dagger for Bella be darker, like black glass...even though she is CG she will in many ways be a bit nastier in how she handles things... she was there after all seeing the aftermath of the last queen's death and would never want Cameron to go through that again.<br><br>Phaia
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Phaia</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 07:29:04</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Did a post in the main thread, Hope it is okay Angelic Kitten.<br><br>As a note Bella is wearing the glasssteel daggers ...one strapped to each shapely calf...the ones Cameron gave her<br>and yes she has the gem hanging on her forehead, one of her mother's of course<br><br>Phaia 
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 14:02:23</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				mmmm.... your mom, if she's still alive, might want to KEEP her armor.<br><br>It's a personal thing, and who know some day having her show up in it for some particular reason might be cool, that wont happen if youve stolen her wardrobe :P<br><br>Same could be said for the dagger, so lets just get you your own stuff, especially if youre going to personalize it like that.<br><br>Since the armor is going to be tailored and specialized to specific characters, you may describe it as you please.&nbsp; Just keep it in mind what youre trying to accomplish with the armor.<br><br>ie.&nbsp; If youre trying to make it lighter,&nbsp; high qualitiy leathers and hardened reinforce bits, might provide protection to key parts of the body while reducing the overall weight of the armor.&nbsp; Armor that reduces arcane failure, will reduce the protections to arms allowing you to cast freely, while increasing protection elsewhere to provide overall freedom.&nbsp; Armor that reduces the armor check penalty will have softer / more flexible armor to allow better over all give in the armor for physical activities... etc...<br><br>You're free to describe what it looks like, though you should keep in mind that you should be able to take it adventuring, ride a horse without resorting to side saddle, and if need be take it into a dungeon crawl as easily as wear it comfortably into a formal social event.<br><br>You may pick a reasonable shade of coloring (they can die it), cuts, looks, etc, somewhere on the armor should be stitched&nbsp; a rose of some sort, usually on the left shoulder.&nbsp; Specially made and tailored for a rose, it too is as much a badge of your station because no one else will be able to fit the armor without notable adjustment to the armor.&nbsp; (treating it as fitted armor in the same manner as Full plate)<br>
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 14:38:20</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Posted the expected perks all roses get when they're accepted to active duty.&nbsp; &nbsp;Consider them part 'trait' for being a Rose (since all rose gets them) and part 'treasure' for completing a really short prologue to start the campaign.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 14:47:20</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				So I'm thinking either Wild or Stormy Rose...though Wild seems to fit better I think.&nbsp; AK? Thoughts?
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 14:52:40</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Either is good and works, it's a personal choice, so there are no wrong answers here.&nbsp; Decide and I'll note it on the character sheet, Bella shall be known as Midnight Rose then.<br><br>Just keep in mind that personalizing your title, will sometimes have it used in place of your name, it's akin to a performer having a stage name.&nbsp; Like... the number of people that know Stefani Joanne Angelina Germanotta, and use that name when addressing her, is probably significantly less than the number of people that know and address her as Lady Gaga.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 15:10:49</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				It should be noted that Ixy, has declined the game for now at least.<br><br>I'm not terribly upset, or even surprised.&nbsp; Years of running campaigns has taught me to expect some sort of player attrition for any number of reasons, which is why it's rare for me to turn away good players, because they're really hard to find, and attrition will make them a lovely commodity to have along the way.<br><br>We have someone else already on the waiting list, but i want to get the current three players settled, and at a point in the game where they feel 'complete' before i look at allowing another rose into the game.&nbsp; It's really important to me, that the game feel and keep it's small cozy feel.&nbsp; Ive done huge and sprawling and while satisfying it's really hard on free time, so i'm really trying for 'small' (by my standards) and high quality stuff is my goal.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 15:56:01</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				There roleplaying threads updated...<br><br>Going to update character sheets to include the perks of a Rose.&nbsp; You dont have them yet, but i want to update them now to avoid the rush later.<br><br>Just... be aware that you dont have the stuff 'yet'.<br><br>I'm going to presume Abigails and Bella's have been modified to leave the arms free to cast spells, reducing the arcane failure to 0%.<br><br>Dev, you're not a caster, so you might want to reduce the weight from 10# to 7# (i'm a tyrant about tracking encumbrance btw, so this isnt a bad thing) though youre only singleclassed at the moment, and if you plan on taking an arcane caster class, you might want to reduce the arcane failure too.&nbsp; Which version of the armor do you want?
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 16:08:56</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Rose's Thorn.<br><br>Your Thorns are imbued with Magic Weapon (1/Day)<br><br>You need to decide how this is activated.&nbsp; <br><br>It may self activate by simply attacking with it, costing no action, but possibly triggering when you dont want it to.<br><br>It may activate with a control word, requiring a standard action to activate allowing you greater control, but requiring you to spend an action to activate it which in a fight might be a big deal.<br><br>pros/cons either way, you get to decide which.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 16:16:06</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="floatright"><em><strong><span style="font-family: comic sans ms;" class="bbc_font">For:<br>(http://www.angelickitten.com/gal/avatar/abigail.jpg)<br>Abigail<br>Elysia<br>Reinhardt</span></strong></em></div>Given that Abigail is a wade in there and hack things up sort of tank, i figured it would be okay to make an exception for her Rose's Raiment and get her tailored for MW Chainmail shirt, the cost difference is 190gp which will be removed from your starting funds.&nbsp; I presume this is acceptable?
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 16:16:52</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11166581#msg11166581">Quote from: Angelic Kitten on 16-04-2015, 16:16:06</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Given that Abigail is a wade in there and hack things up sort of tank, i figured it would be okay to make an exception for her Rose's Raiment and get her tailored for MW Chainmail shirt, the cost difference is 190gp which will be removed from your starting funds.&nbsp; I presume this is acceptable?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>That sounds like a pretty good idea to me.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 16:22:03</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Going to take a break for Elliquiy to do other stuff...<br><br>RP threads updated, so i have a clear conscience there.<br><br>Character threads... still needs work, but my deadline to have that all squared away is the end of the month, so i can live with where i am since most of you have functional if not complete worksheets, and you know what you can do which is good enough for me to wing through till the end of the month....<br><br>mmm... campaign thread updated with the perks you get as a Rose.&nbsp; So a little done for everything.&nbsp; I'm not sure about 'In the name of the queen', it's there on a trial basis to see how it works out, it's mostly there for flavor, and that bump to help you with something that being a rose by reputation should help you with.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 19:44:31</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				<em>* ick *</em><br><br>RPOL down, which is bad cause much of my reference material for the campaign is over there, so... i'm going to take a break from trying to get things done for a little bit, cause i need to look something up before posting for her.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Phaia</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 19:45:50</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				I found some ideas for armor<br><br>http://lagueuse.deviantart.com/art/Leather-female-armor-265709897<br><br>http://lagueuse.deviantart.com/art/female-leather-armor-265709413?q=gallery:lagueuse/33431102&amp;qo=159<br><br>https://www.pinterest.com/pin/38562140531638256/<br><br>https://www.pinterest.com/pin/339247784401135446/<br><br>http://lagueuse.deviantart.com/art/female-leather-armor-x-small-273099587#/art/female-leather-armor-273099888?_sid=1a6fff97&nbsp; &lt;&lt;&lt; which I am tending to think would be lovely for Bella. couple with a dark skirt [reinforced] or soft leather leggings <br><br>Though this is a very cool look&nbsp; https://www.pinterest.com/pin/153403931029955533/<br><br>The shoulder/arm guards are bit too much but the rest is sleek and well done https://www.pinterest.com/pin/524880531543450523/<br><br>Of course I could have Bella go with the standard female fantasy armor thrope....less armor gives better protection... :o show lots of cleavage, leg , tummy etc and blind the bad guys with cha<br><br>Phaia
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 21:18:25</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Not expecting you to go out and look for stuff, describing it is fine, but if you want to find a photo reference for youself that's fine.&nbsp; Just remember that spell casting involves the whole arm, which might also include the shoulders, so usually a vest, or sleeveless look for the leather is how i envision it, with padded/quilted sleeves for the arm and maybe bracers for the forearm is how i envision it.&nbsp; As much free movement for the arms as possible with light protection.<br><br>If they can do the scantily cad show the belly button bra look, i dont see how terrible sleeveless can be for protection.<br><br>o.o<br><br>geez... rpol... still down.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 22:31:26</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				AK-as promised!<br><br>Acrobatics (Dex)-1<br>Appraise (Int)-1<br>Climb (Str)<br>Craft (Int)-3 (Bows)<br>Diplomacy (Cha)-1<br>Escape Artist (Dex)-1<br>Handle Animal (Cha)-1<br>Heal (Wis)<br>Intimidate (Cha)<br>Knowledge (dungeoneering) (Int)<br>Knowledge (geography) (Int)-2<br>Knowledge (nature) (Int)-3<br>Knowledge (religion) (Int)-3<br>Perception (Wis)-3<br>Profession (Wis)<br>Ride (Dex)<br>Spellcraft (Int)-1<br>Stealth (Dex)-1<br>Survival (Wis)-3<br>Swim (Str)<br><br>those are just the ranks
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 22:51:28</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				thanks, i couldnt post cause RPOL is down and the information i needed to look up was there.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>16-04-2015, 22:54:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				No worries ^_^
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>17-04-2015, 01:20:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				updated the campaign thread with assorted 'stuff'.<br><br>RPOL finally up, so i was able to gather what i was looking for.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Muse</strong> on <strong>17-04-2015, 03:51:49</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				&nbsp; Good morning.&nbsp; I'd love to participate.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>17-04-2015, 04:02:48</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				So noted pitch me your concept.<br><br>I have a bunch of house rules that new players (and even old ones) arent familiar with, so i try and to stay involved with the character creation process to make sure it comes out alright.<br><br>Concept is pretty important,for staying on track and simple questions like...<br><br>Name... Race... Gender, are good starting points.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>17-04-2015, 18:06:25</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Just a quick check Dev, are you skilling fate's temple, or are you still going to donate a few silvers there too?
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>17-04-2015, 22:41:51</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Not skipping at all.&nbsp; will drop silver there before heading off
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>17-04-2015, 22:47:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11166972#msg11166972">Quote from: Phaia on 16-04-2015, 19:45:50</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I found some ideas for armor<br><br>http://lagueuse.deviantart.com/art/Leather-female-armor-265709897<br><br>http://lagueuse.deviantart.com/art/female-leather-armor-265709413?q=gallery:lagueuse/33431102&amp;qo=159<br><br>https://www.pinterest.com/pin/38562140531638256/<br><br>https://www.pinterest.com/pin/339247784401135446/<br><br>http://lagueuse.deviantart.com/art/female-leather-armor-x-small-273099587#/art/female-leather-armor-273099888?_sid=1a6fff97&nbsp; &lt;&lt;&lt; which I am tending to think would be lovely for Bella. couple with a dark skirt [reinforced] or soft leather leggings <br><br>Though this is a very cool look&nbsp; https://www.pinterest.com/pin/153403931029955533/<br><br>The shoulder/arm guards are bit too much but the rest is sleek and well done https://www.pinterest.com/pin/524880531543450523/<br><br>Of course I could have Bella go with the standard female fantasy armor thrope....less armor gives better protection... :o show lots of cleavage, leg , tummy etc and blind the bad guys with cha<br><br>Phaia<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Those armour links are excellent and inspire me with some more ideas for armour.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>17-04-2015, 23:36:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Dealing with dinner Dev, will try and get something up later tonight but no promises, the baby wants to watch a dvd tonight it seems.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>17-04-2015, 23:39:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I should have a post for you later. Today's been a cleaning, crafting and jewellery day, which was fun.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>17-04-2015, 23:39:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				No worries AK!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>18-04-2015, 04:10:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Allergies killing me tonight.<br><br>Just not feeling it, so i'm going to callit an early night,<br><br>ttfn peeps<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>18-04-2015, 04:11:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oops.. I forgot to post tonight and now it's after 3. Sorry, but I'm going to wait until tomorrow.<br><br>I hope your allergies feel better soon, Angelic Kitten. You have a good night. *hugs*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Muse</strong> on <strong>18-04-2015, 10:40:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				&nbsp; Those are some really awesome armors.&nbsp; <br><br>&nbsp; It's going to be hard for me to get online next week. I have a friend's wedding in six hours, then a 3 day vacation, and then another potental vacation for a friend's birthday.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Phaia</strong> on <strong>19-04-2015, 17:00:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry about being slow on post will get one in today. Busy with real life.<br><br>Great to see ya Muse! and welcome aboard<br><br>Phaia
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>19-04-2015, 17:14:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				No worries i'm a little behind with post allergies have devastated my energy and free time to do stuff... also have peeps to feed at the moment and baby's homework to review... so... little preoccupied, will make updates when i can.<br><br>Muse and Phaia know each other cool~<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>19-04-2015, 17:56:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Muse, I don't know you but I think you might've written or gamed with hubby before. He's HairyHeretic.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>19-04-2015, 18:24:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Small world.<br><br>^.^<br><br>The good news is that i've finished up my other commission yesterday, so after i finish with the babies homework i should be able to get myself sometime to get back on the schedule and catch up on stuff.<br><br>I'm still sorta new so everyone is new to me.<br><br>~.~<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Phaia</strong> on <strong>19-04-2015, 21:18:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11175009#msg11175009">Quote from: AmberStarfire on 19-04-2015, 17:56:36</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Muse, I don't know you but I think you might've written or gamed with hubby before. He's HairyHeretic.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>OHHH!!&nbsp; :o I know Hairy from a couple of scion groups.<br><br>YEA!!<br><br>Phaia
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>19-04-2015, 21:23:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm like new to everyone I think...except maybe Muse?&nbsp; But I'm not sure.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Muse</strong> on <strong>20-04-2015, 15:03:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				&nbsp; Hallo again, Phaia!&nbsp; <br><br>&nbsp; Nice to meet you, Amber.&nbsp; Hairy's awesome.&nbsp; I've been playing with him off and on for a while.&nbsp; <br><br>&nbsp; Nevaeh, I've seen you around.&nbsp; :)&nbsp; How's it going?&nbsp; <br><br>&nbsp; Kitten, you mentioned this being a relatively low magic game.&nbsp; Do you prefer to avoid wizards and the like?&nbsp; <br><br>&nbsp; I need to read more on your setting material.&nbsp; I hope i don't slow people down.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>20-04-2015, 15:21:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				No worry muse,youre a late addition, you may start when ready campaign is already started and slowly moving around.<br><br>I'm still feeling out the characters and players, to get a clue on who might work well with who, so no rush just yet.<br><br>You may play a wizard if you wish, its not a banned class (summoner is the only one i have a universal dislike for and maybe the one that needs to be on a horse to do anything useful from the apg.)<br><br>You should be aware that it's going to be a small party campaign and 'average' party size might be two characters together, with the possibility of being assigned a task to work alone.&nbsp; So characters should be as self sufficient as possible.&nbsp; A character that relies on a party setting with a tank to hide behind and a healer to help with after fight damage might feel limited in the scope of this campaign where those things wont always be available.<br><br>Characters do not know each other to start, at least so far.&nbsp; They're coming from all over the place to gather and join the order, so for the most part the only common thread for them is for what ever reason, they're fated to become a Rose of the Order, and there, they find their common bond and start their history working together.<br><br>I've got a vague floating timeline, where characters are roughly moving along in the same time frame as other characters but you wont know for sure till you actually meet that you're on the same time line.&nbsp; (so i might have the queen doing interviews with two or three characters at once, there&nbsp; arent three queens, they're just happening at different times.)<br><br>I also use 'real time' when i play.&nbsp; You dont always spend all your time on adventures/missions.&nbsp; You have down time to enjoy life, pursue craft and training, and what not.&nbsp; So as time passes in the flesh and blood world, it'll pass in the campaign.&nbsp; So the 'seasons' will adjust between each mission, and how much time passes between missions depends on how long it took to finish the mission.<br><br>Abigail, should be familiar with what i'm talking about, as for the rest of you, if you dont get it, dont worry, after a mission or two, it'll make great sense.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Muse</strong> on <strong>20-04-2015, 15:24:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				&nbsp; This sounds awesome.&nbsp; I hope I can come up with someone good.&nbsp; :)&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>20-04-2015, 15:32:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Campaign world is base on a Fanstasy version of Earth, and based out of 'Europe'.<br><br>Dev is from Spain.<br><br>Abi and Bella are both local from Euro, which is sort of like Great Britain, except they're a land power like France, and France is the one with the formidable Navy.&nbsp; (there are some variance from the real world).<br><br>So that should help with a character concept since you dont have to learn an obscure campaign world.&nbsp; You more or less live in mine already.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Muse</strong> on <strong>20-04-2015, 15:42:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				&nbsp; About what erra?&nbsp; Mideval, Chivalric, renisance?&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>20-04-2015, 16:09:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				It's not an 'era'.&nbsp; It's a Fantasy campaign, that just happens to use names of places youre familiar with.&nbsp; So you're not going to be swashbuckling on earth in the 1700s or something.<br><br>It's like a Lord of the Rings setting, using Earth as a background, instead of middle earth would be a better description than specifying an 'era'.&nbsp; The campaign is NOT historical..
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Muse</strong> on <strong>21-04-2015, 07:29:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				&nbsp; Oh, sorry.&nbsp; I didn't mean it like that.&nbsp; <br><br>&nbsp; It was a question about technology, really.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>21-04-2015, 15:16:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Your question feels a little vague to me, i'm not quite sure what youre asking but i shall try and answer, if the answer is lacking you'll have to be more specific with the question.<br><br>It is... a Pathfinder game, so most of the equipment that might be found are pretty standard.&nbsp; It is... a low level campaign, so the highest level weapons you'll find is +2 ish, and the highest level armor you will find is +2 maybe +3 ish<br><br>I have redefined the cost, and for armor the description for weapons and armor, and introduced the concept of other masterwork items.<br><br>I have introduced the concept of Imbued magic items.<br><br>I have listed a partial list of campaign specific spells.<br><br>Most of this can be noted on the world builder thread that i'm slowly forming for the campaign.<br>https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227271.0<br><br>The dwarves have discovered gun powder and are at the early stages of developling firearms.&nbsp; The only other faction that might even have a hint of this technology is the Francs who are a commercial juggaurnaut and traded aggressively with the dwarves for some measure of this secret.<br><br>Does this answer the question?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>21-04-2015, 15:52:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				New RP updated for Dev and Abigail.<br><br>So to my knowledge i'm all updated there.<br><br>Will make an effort to try and get some if not all of the character sheets updated a little more.&nbsp; I'm slow, but will get them done eventually.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Muse</strong> on <strong>21-04-2015, 17:28:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*smiles*&nbsp; That tells me what I need to know, thank you.&nbsp; <br><br>Sorry if I stressed you.&nbsp; *hugs*&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>21-04-2015, 18:02:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				No worries, let me know when youre ready for character generation.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Muse</strong> on <strong>22-04-2015, 14:00:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				&nbsp; So, I see you have character creations rules for scrolls and potions.&nbsp; What if I wanted too play a seamstress who embroidered spells into her clothes?&nbsp; Or someone who made good use of these rings of spell recollection?&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>22-04-2015, 14:18:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				you want to play a crafter?<br><br>not impossible, i've conducted crafting campaigns, though your ability to work in the 'field' would be limited.&nbsp; Not terrible, you would get to roleplay more but you wont have much opportunity to get much experience.<br><br>There are level requirements for crafting as well.&nbsp; Scrolls and potions arent hard, everything else requires a few levels, even with my adjusted crafting rules.<br><br>Some of those Rings are use and lose btw, they're more of an emergency item, on par with potions that you dont have to lug around than a permanent effect.&nbsp; Anyone can use them, like anyone can use potions.&nbsp; The rings of power, do require the ability to cast spells though, they're less expensive, as well and offer greater variety as the trade off.<br><br>If you were going to play a crafter i would suggest looking at Alchemist, Magic User and Witch, or some combination.&nbsp; They all offer crafting feats in some shape or form as class aspects.<br><br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Muse</strong> on <strong>22-04-2015, 14:21:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				&nbsp; Sorry, I cant' seem to find it again.&nbsp; Are our characters level 1 or level 3?&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Muse</strong> on <strong>22-04-2015, 14:47:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				&nbsp; I believe my character will be named Niobe Argetrae.&nbsp; She will be an elven spelldancer magus.&nbsp; Her weapon of choice will be the rapier.&nbsp; Her feats will be Weapon Finesse and Arcane Strike.&nbsp; Her hobbies will be dancing and playing the harp.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>22-04-2015, 14:49:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Characters are third level.<br><br>(looking up spell dancer give me a link or at least give me a hint on the source book, any particular race of elves?)<br><br>or are you talking about a Bard that does magic through dance (i can live with that, maybe a dervish?)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Muse</strong> on <strong>22-04-2015, 14:59:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh, sorry! Thought I did!&nbsp; <br><br>Not a bard, a magus:&nbsp; <br>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/magus<br>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/core-races/elf/spell-dancer-magus-elf
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>22-04-2015, 15:11:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I can live with this.<br><br>I use advance race books, and allow players 10rp to design their race.&nbsp; Elves, as written are...<br><br>0rp Standard ~ Ability +2 Dex / +2 Intelligence / -2 Constitution<br><br>1rp for Low Light Vission<br><br>2rp for Elven Immunities +2 save vs Sleep and enchantment spells/effects<br><br>3rp for Elven Magic +2 bonus to overcome spell resistence and spell craft checks to id magic items<br><br>2rp Skill Bonus ~ Keen sense +2 bonus on perception<br><br>2rp for Weapon fam (Longbows, Longswords, Rapier, Short bows, and any weapon with elven in it's name is a martial weapon<br><br>If this meets with your approval, i will mark that you are a high elf, and use these as is.<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>23-04-2015, 01:01:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="floatright"><em><strong><span style="font-family: comic sans ms;" class="bbc_font">For:<br>(http://www.angelickitten.com/gal/avatar/devon.jpg)<br>Devonayes <br>Cantana</span></strong></em></div><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11167342#msg11167342">Quote from: DarkNevaeh on 16-04-2015, 22:31:26</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">AK-as promised!<br><br>Acrobatics (Dex)-1<br>Appraise (Int)-1<br>Climb (Str)<br>Craft (Int)-3 (Bows)<br>Diplomacy (Cha)-1<br>Escape Artist (Dex)-1<br>Handle Animal (Cha)-1<br>Heal (Wis)<br>Intimidate (Cha)<br>Knowledge (dungeoneering) (Int)<br>Knowledge (geography) (Int)-2<br>Knowledge (nature) (Int)-3<br>Knowledge (religion) (Int)-3<br>Perception (Wis)-3<br>Profession (Wis)<br>Ride (Dex)<br>Spellcraft (Int)-1<br>Stealth (Dex)-1<br>Survival (Wis)-3<br>Swim (Str)<br><br>those are just the ranks<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br><br>Okay just added skills to character sheet.&nbsp; It's pretty done at this point...&nbsp; <br><br>Only thing still needed are...<br>Feat for being 3rd Level.<br><br>Decided on what sort of Master Leather Armor you want, reduced weight to 8# or 0% arcane failure?&nbsp; {Default to 0% arcane failure}<br><br>Decided on Rebel or Wild Rose?&nbsp; I think they're both good so it's up to you.&nbsp; May even use the one you dont want for an NPC ^.^<br><br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>23-04-2015, 01:11:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'll try to get a post on here tonight, AK. Just to let you know I replied off-site for you.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>23-04-2015, 01:18:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				thanks amber, a little out of sorts today, so just moping about and doing paperwork to be productive.&nbsp; Will look at your stuff in more detail really soon though, probably tomorrow.&nbsp; I just need a day to get my shyt together.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>23-04-2015, 01:23:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11184788#msg11184788">Quote from: Angelic Kitten on 23-04-2015, 01:18:51</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">thanks amber, a little out of sorts today, so just moping about and doing paperwork to be productive.&nbsp; Will look at your stuff in more detail really soon though, probably tomorrow.&nbsp; I just need a day to get my shyt together.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>It's okay. I've been a bit that way too. It's good you're getting the paperwork done and being productive. I spent much of the day out and I haven't got very much done today at all.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>23-04-2015, 01:31:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				returned your comments.&nbsp; Will probably look at bella next, and abigail last.<br><br>Abigail is both the easiest and hardest for me to work through cause shes a past character i know what she's like, but cause she's from another campaign, i have to make her legal as a starting character for this one.<br><br>So i'll look at her last after i finish up Bella, i think Dev is pretty close to done.<br><br>Would love a RP update, i could use the distraction, but i know what it's like to be out of sorts, so dont drive yourself crazy, it can wait if need be.&nbsp; The format were currently in at the moment gives me a lot of lee way since no one is really waiting on you to act but me, and the other players can move along at their own pace too.<br><br>If players really have conflicting schedules we might just make the campaign like this as the norm.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>23-04-2015, 18:57:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="floatright"><em><strong><span style="font-family: comic sans ms;" class="bbc_font">For:<br>(http://www.angelickitten.com/gal/avatar/isabella.jpg)<br>Isabella de`Guignes </span></strong></em></div>Finished Bella's Character sheet.<br><br>Please review for accuracy.<br><br><del>About the only thing i forgot to answer, was what sort of rose did you want to be, was it Shadow Rose that you wanted?</del><br><br>Nevermind, i see now, Midnight Rose.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>23-04-2015, 19:01:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<br><br><br>miss... post.<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>23-04-2015, 20:29:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hey sorry, been working hell days the last 3 days.&nbsp; <br><br>In order as I think of them...<br><br>I was debating between Wild and Stormy Rose.&nbsp; Stormy Rose is cool with me.<br><br>3rd level feat was Deadly AIm I thought.<br><br>Reduced weight is cool with me.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>23-04-2015, 20:39:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Stormy Rose it is, that brings your character sheet up to date, just Abigail to go and my starting Roses will all be done.&nbsp; Should, hopefully, make RP easier.<br><br>will work on Niobe after Abigail's done.&nbsp; Do you have a history you want to use for Niobe Muse?&nbsp; A reason for why she's noticed and becomes a Rose?<br><br>I'm thinking Adhafera is a Magus also, and perhaps youre classmates?<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Muse</strong> on <strong>23-04-2015, 21:38:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				&nbsp; Standard elf works fine for her.&nbsp; Her nickname could be Briar Rose.&nbsp; :)&nbsp; <br><br>&nbsp; Were you going to build the sheet?&nbsp; I'm happy to do so.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>23-04-2015, 22:06:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry to keep you waiting. Time got away from me last night and today has been a busy day, but I went to see the new Avengers movie. :D<br><br>What do you still need from me Angelic Kitten, besides another post? I know there's the equipment list.<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>23-04-2015, 22:29:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11186974#msg11186974">Quote from: Muse on 23-04-2015, 21:38:59</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">&nbsp; Standard elf works fine for her.&nbsp; Her nickname could be Briar Rose.&nbsp; :)&nbsp; <br><br>&nbsp; Were you going to build the sheet?&nbsp; I'm happy to do so. <br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Started a sheet here.<br>https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227124.msg11148223#msg11148223<br><br>You have 8 points to buy your ability score (per the Core rules)&nbsp; After you have your base stats you add +2 to Dex and Int, and -2 from Con.&nbsp; After that, you get to add +1 to two ability scores (one for each level you've gained).<br><br>Then you pick a trait.<br><br>Then we look at feats.<br><br>Then we look at Skills (just ranks, please)<br><br>Then we look at spells<br><br>Then we look at equipment.<br><br>Pick a image/picture for yourself<br><br>To get you actually started in the campaign with an RP thread, i still need to know more about the character history, who she is, and why she wants to be a Rose, and why the queen picks her ahead of other candidates.<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Muse</strong> on <strong>23-04-2015, 23:01:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11187117#msg11187117">Quote from: Angelic Kitten on 23-04-2015, 22:29:55</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Started a sheet here.<br>https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227124.msg11148223#msg11148223<br><br>You have 8 points to buy your ability score (per the Core rules)&nbsp; After you have your base stats you add +2 to Dex and Int, and -2 from Con.&nbsp; After that, you get to add +1 to two ability scores (one for each level you've gained).<br><br>Then you pick a trait.<br><br>Then we look at feats.<br><br>Then we look at Skills (just ranks, please)<br><br>Then we look at spells<br><br>Then we look at equipment.<br><br>Pick a image/picture for yourself<br><br>To get you actually started in the campaign with an RP thread, i still need to know more about the character history, who she is, and why she wants to be a Rose, and why the queen picks her ahead of other candidates.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br><br>Okay, then.&nbsp; :)&nbsp; <br><br>Ability scores:&nbsp; <br>10&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Strength&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>16&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Dexterity<br>10&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Constitution<br>16&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Intelligence<br>8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Wisdom<br>12&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Charisma<br><br>Just one trait?&nbsp; <br>&nbsp; Focused Mind +2 Concentration.&nbsp; <br>&nbsp; (If the usual two, the other would be Savant: +2 perform, dance.&nbsp; Perform is always a class skill.)&nbsp; <br><br>Feats:&nbsp; <br>&nbsp; Arcane Strike<br>&nbsp; Weapon Finesse<br><br>Skills:&nbsp; <br>Acrobatics 3r<br>Diplomacy 1 ranks<br>K. Arcana 3r<br>K. Nobility 1 rank<br>P. Dance 3r<br>P. Strings 1 rank.&nbsp; <br>Spellcraft 3r<br>Use Magic Device
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>23-04-2015, 23:50:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just one trait, Knight of the Rose is a mandatory Trait.<br><br>That's not bad as mandatory campaign requirements get for being intrusive.<br><br>Will look over the rest after dinner.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Phaia</strong> on <strong>26-04-2015, 03:35:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				so sorry I have not been around,&nbsp; found out i am pregnant again, this week [about 3 weeks] and its been very wild and hectic<br><br>Phaia
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>26-04-2015, 03:48:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11193641#msg11193641">Quote from: Phaia on 26-04-2015, 03:35:04</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">so sorry I have not been around,&nbsp; found out i am pregnant again, this week [about 3 weeks] and its been very wild and hectic<br><br>Phaia<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Wow, congratulations!!! :D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>26-04-2015, 04:09:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11193641#msg11193641">Quote from: Phaia on 26-04-2015, 03:35:04</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">so sorry I have not been around,&nbsp; found out i am pregnant again, this week [about 3 weeks] and its been very wild and hectic<br><br>Phaia<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>No worries Phaia, as doctor notes go for being excused from play, that's one of the better ones i seen.&nbsp; Congratulations (I think?) no worries on rushing to stay involved.&nbsp; Pacing is a lot more sedate than anticipated so i might widen the pool of players a little more, but not too much.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Muse</strong> on <strong>01-05-2015, 01:13:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*peeks*&nbsp; :)&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>01-05-2015, 01:23:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				* blinks *<br><br>oh drat, were you waiting on me?<br><br>Sowwy, was distracted the last few days with a flood of stuff that needed my attention.&nbsp; Will give this a look over again harder after i clean up.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Muse</strong> on <strong>01-05-2015, 01:47:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				&nbsp; Yay!&nbsp; <br><br>&nbsp; Take your time, just wanted you to know I was still interested.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>01-05-2015, 02:16:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227117.msg11208624#msg11208624">Quote from: Muse on 01-05-2015, 01:47:56</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">&nbsp; Yay!&nbsp; <br><br>&nbsp; Take your time, just wanted you to know I was still interested. <br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br><br>As noted earlier...<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">To get you actually started in the campaign with an RP thread, i still need to know more about the character history, who she is, and why she wants to be a Rose, and why the queen picks her ahead of other candidates.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Stats good, but to get you really started i need to know more about her background, and why she wants to join the roses, and why the roses might be interested in her in particular. Get me this to my satisfaction and i'm willing to start you up with the partial character sheet we have.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Muse</strong> on <strong>01-05-2015, 05:07:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				&nbsp; Oh, sorry.&nbsp; Didn't see that.&nbsp; :)&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>01-05-2015, 12:10:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				No worries a case of me waiting for you , waiting for me,&nbsp; type thing.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>04-05-2015, 15:05:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Randal's player just got engaged. I saw it on Facebook. :D 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>04-05-2015, 15:07:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That's actually pretty good, to be fair i'm not even sure who Randel's character is anymore, it was someone i met in passing in an XCom game of all things.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>04-05-2015, 15:11:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ok. You should have his username in your old Pathfinder game but if you want to re-connect with him again, I'd be happy to pass on a msg for you.<br><br>I doubt I'd get him to join E, because adult gaming doesn't seem his thing, but he's still around the place on another gaming site (though not actively roleplaying the last time I checked).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>04-05-2015, 15:19:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				naw, that's fine, learning that he's okay and doing well second hand is fine.<br><br>We&nbsp; were friendly but not that close, he wasnt even a fan of pathfinder, he only joined cause i was game mastering it.<br><br>Next time you drop him a line just give him my hello, and happy wishes for his wedding stuff.<br><br>^.^
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>04-05-2015, 15:29:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sure, I will do. :)<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>DarkNevaeh</strong> on <strong>09-05-2015, 13:43:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				&gt;.&gt;<br><br>So...wow I am so sorry.&nbsp; Work has been a bitch and I am trying to get back to posting and I will post today for sure.&nbsp; PLease don't hate me?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>11-05-2015, 19:48:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I should have a post up today as well. Sorry for keeping you waiting, the last week has been hectic.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>15-05-2015, 15:02:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Lethargy is contagious.<br><br>I've had a rough couple of days myself, but no excuse.<br><br>Will try and get responses up shortly.<br><br>Trying to figure out where we are and why were so sluggish, is the interest just not here for the campaign or is it the demands of the flesh and blood gumming up the works?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>15-05-2015, 15:23:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				It could be that E tends to have a more laid back approach to writing usually. You might need to establish a certain timeframe for posting.<br><br>I'm definitely here and interested in continuing the campaign. I've just been putting so much time into certain projects that it hasn't left me enough time to do other things, so I've been falling behind with my writing.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Muse</strong> on <strong>17-05-2015, 12:45:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				&nbsp; Where can I find some information about the Queen to use in my character history?&nbsp; :)&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>30-05-2015, 18:01:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				She was in the original game on another roleplaying site. I had a looksy and her character description isn't up there anymore but a sheet for her is.<br><br>Her name was Adhafera Arcwright, and she was a Dame in the Misty Valley who went on to marry a King, and become a queen in this campaign. The GM would know a whole lot more.<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Muse</strong> on <strong>31-05-2015, 01:29:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				&nbsp; &nbsp;*smiles*&nbsp; Thank you, Amber.&nbsp; I'll wait 'til i can get information from Kitten before i start composing an extended history, then.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>05-06-2015, 21:17:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Apologies, this is on me.<br><br>I really did have the best of intentions for this campaign, but a snafu on a different forum just turned me off on Elliquiy for a little bit.&nbsp; I'm not making excuses, but i do believe you should be given an explanation of some sort for my absence.&nbsp; Amber will tell you that such absences are rare and that i'm usually very on top of things.&nbsp; That said,&nbsp; I really dont need to go into it, and really the quicker i forget about it, the easier it'll be for me to get back on track for things.<br><br>I need another day, to maybe get my head clear of the last of this snafu, and to clear up some other things on my table, but it is my intention to pick up where i left off soon.&nbsp; Time frame for business as usual is over the next day or two.&nbsp; The weekend should be enough for me to get things back on track.<br><br>Amber has given you the recap of what's happened, though the facts are slightly different, they're close enough to fact to stand.&nbsp; Actually the background on the queen is a little fuzzy to a lot of people since Adhafera seemed to have appeared out of know where and into the royal court as the queen no less.<br><br><hr><br>My question of the moment, which i really should have asked MUCH earlier is this.<br><br>What would you like out of this campaign?<br><br>The premise is a pathfinder role playing campaign with strong role playing potential.<br><br>If things break down to combat i'll make maps and conduct it as Pathfinder, if you need to do things that are questionable we go to pathfinder and look at skills.<br><br>If you role play you role play i try and keep pathfinder out of it, looking at things like stats and skills as an adjustment for a reaction for what you put out there as role playing, so for something like 'diplomacy', you would role play it out and i would take your charisma and diplomacy as a modifier to results of your role playing.<br><br>Are you looking for romance?&nbsp; intrigue?&nbsp; Action?&nbsp; Love triangles?&nbsp; Do you want a strong pathfinder frame to work in and treat it as a game, or would you prefer a looser use of the rules as guidelines and treat it more closely as a written story?<br><br><br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Muse</strong> on <strong>06-06-2015, 01:06:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				&nbsp; *Big hug for Kitten*&nbsp; I hope you feel better soon!!!&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>09-06-2015, 05:24:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Weekend isnt cooperating much.&nbsp; Some house issues need to be tended to.&nbsp; Problem with the small bathrooms toilet and the master bathrooms shower facet have me a little distracted.&nbsp; Trying to get back in the groove though and checking in more often.<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>09-06-2015, 14:17:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I have to go out in a little while but I'll have answers to your questions up later. Should I send them to you in PM?<br><br>Here's hoping you're able to fix the problems with the bathroom without too much trouble.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angelic Kitten</strong> on <strong>09-06-2015, 16:06:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Bathrooms seem to be working at the moment.<br><br>We can discuss what you want here unless you find what you want personal and embarrassing.<br><br>You're all in the campaign together so it's nice to know what other players are looking for so you know who you might want to angle your interaction towards.<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Once Upon a Time, Knights of the Rose  {OOC thread}</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AmberStarfire</strong> on <strong>10-06-2015, 04:33:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sure, and I don't find it personal or embarrassing. <br><br>I would like to see action and adventure from the campaign, and I'm more than happy to immerse myself in the life and drama of a lady knight serving the Queen. :) While I often enjoy roleplaying romance, it's not what I'm looking for here. More sword fights, a bit of intrigue, and perhaps even a grand plot lurking in the background. I like a challenge - something to mentally unravel as I play my character. I don't think this even would need to take my character away from the city, at least for now, though travel at some point might be a good idea. I'd also like to play the spiritual side of my character, some. <br><br>I miss D&amp;D and Pathfinder, and some good, old fashioned RPGs, where the emphasis is on solid story. Missions of some kind, story-related drama. I think I would prefer a looser use of the system behind Pathfinder since I sometimes struggle with that side (so perhaps only when it's directly necessary?) but I do miss playing system games. That's not to say I wouldn't consider involving Abigail in a relationship of some kind, but it's not my primary motivation.
			</dd>
		</dl>
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