Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread
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				Title: <strong>Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>15-11-2017, 15:29:10</strong>
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				Welcome, my pretties! We've got enough interested parties now, so that we can start our OOC discussions before the IC thread is up and running which I anticipate will happen tonight after work. Good hunting!<br><br>When posting in IC, please use this format so it's easier for keeping track of things.<br><br><div class="codeheader">Code: <a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="return smfSelectText(this);" class="codeoperation">[Select]</a></div><pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"><code class="bbc_code">[floatright][IMG padding=10 height=200]http://(your face claim of choice-feel free to use different ones each time as long as it's still the same person's face[img]<br>[b][b]Character Name/Alias[/b]: <br>[b]Location[/b]: Continent (N, S, E, W), Province (Pan-Asia, Africa, Russia, South America, etc.), and Kingdom/Territory (Which royal controls this turf or is it like international waters?)<br>[b]Current Action(s)[/b]: Traveling, searching, fighting, training, etc.<br>[b]Tagging[/b]: None, NPCs or actual player characters[/b][/floatright]</code></pre>
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>TheHangedOne</strong> on <strong>15-11-2017, 15:55:32</strong>
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				Cu Chulainn is up; additionally have added a picture of a rather grizzly looking bone-spear to represent Gae Bolg, and a spoiler'd youtube vid of some rousing fightin' music.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>15-11-2017, 16:12:05</strong>
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				Goddamnit, Hanged. I thought I was totally going to get in on the first but you're a talented sniper. <br><br>Nicely done. 
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				Post by: <strong>TheHangedOne</strong> on <strong>15-11-2017, 20:12:26</strong>
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				&nbsp;;D
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>LamentingQuill</strong> on <strong>15-11-2017, 21:00:43</strong>
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				I need opinions. <br><br>Should Snow White being lawful good or chaotic good?<br><br>I was going to go with lawful good... but I also kinda see her being the type to do whatever needs to be done, even if it doesn't exactly go along with a set of 'rules' or 'laws'. You get what I mean?<br><br>What do you guys think? Straight laced lawful good? Or do what has to be done chaotic good?
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>TheHangedOne</strong> on <strong>15-11-2017, 21:02:12</strong>
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				Why not Neutral Good? When it suits her needs, she acts within a (very flexible, but not formalized) code; when it needs to be done, she breaks the rules. 
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>ff</strong> on <strong>15-11-2017, 21:03:01</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13676255#msg13676255">Quote from: LamentingQuill on 15-11-2017, 21:00:43</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I need opinions. <br><br>Should Snow White being lawful good or chaotic good?<br><br>I was going to go with lawful good... but I also kinda see her being the type to do whatever needs to be done, even if it doesn't exactly go along with a set of 'rules' or 'laws'. You get what I mean?<br><br>What do you guys think? Straight laced lawful good? Or do what has to be done chaotic good?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>If she's in between and acts situationally, sounds like textbook Neutral Good to me<br><br>&nbsp;<br><br>
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>ff</strong> on <strong>15-11-2017, 23:56:44</strong>
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				Char sheet in with some real backstory now. May adjust depending on the nature of Bigby and their relationship (Angie, I am quite flexible on those points.) 
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>16-11-2017, 02:24:04</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13676255#msg13676255">Quote from: LamentingQuill on 15-11-2017, 21:00:43</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I need opinions. <br><br>Should Snow White being lawful good or chaotic good?<br><br>I was going to go with lawful good... but I also kinda see her being the type to do whatever needs to be done, even if it doesn't exactly go along with a set of 'rules' or 'laws'. You get what I mean?<br><br>What do you guys think? Straight laced lawful good? Or do what has to be done chaotic good?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I had thought lawful good meant that she would simply always oppose evil. I mean, I didn't think an action like killing one's enemies would forbid one from remaining lawful good, I just thought that meant they couldn't be corrupted and tempted to join the dark side. Chaotic good would be more self-serving in intent even if they opposed evil, but weren't generally geared toward doing good for others if they didn't otherwise need to. So I guess my definition would be, lawful good is like Captain America, whereas chaotic good would be more like a mercenary who won't work for anyone who wants to hire them to be purposefully harmful to others. Lawful evil would be like Rumplestiltskin, who not only makes it their mission to do wicked things but delights in it, while chaotic evil would be a mercenary who has no ethical qualms about working for the bad guys and wouldn't hesitate to screw over a 'good' employer if the opportunity for a better payoff presented itself, but doesn't go around causing trouble just for the hell of it.<br><br>That's just my take on it.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>LamentingQuill</strong> on <strong>16-11-2017, 02:31:27</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13677015#msg13677015">Quote from: Mathim on 16-11-2017, 02:24:04</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I had thought lawful good meant that she would simply always oppose evil. I mean, I didn't think an action like killing one's enemies would forbid one from remaining lawful good, I just thought that meant they couldn't be corrupted and tempted to join the dark side. Chaotic good would be more self-serving in intent even if they opposed evil, but weren't generally geared toward doing good for others if they didn't otherwise need to. So I guess my definition would be, lawful good is like Captain America, whereas chaotic good would be more like a mercenary who won't work for anyone who wants to hire them to be purposefully harmful to others. Lawful evil would be like Rumplestiltskin, who not only makes it their mission to do wicked things but delights in it, while chaotic evil would be a mercenary who has no ethical qualms about working for the bad guys and wouldn't hesitate to screw over a 'good' employer if the opportunity for a better payoff presented itself, but doesn't go around causing trouble just for the hell of it.<br><br>That's just my take on it.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>For Lawful good... here is an example...<br><br>Say there was a really clever serial murderer roaming the lands, really good at covering his tracks and really good at getting himself out of being dealt with by authorities... and Snow White knows he's the murderer, knows it without a shadow of doubt... but she can't prove it. Lawful good would demand she allow him to stand trial and abide by the decision made... which means he'd do what he always does and get off free as a bird.<br><br>Whereas for Neutral good, Snow White would be able to take matters into her own hands and ensure he can never hurt anyone else again.<br><br>See? :)
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>16-11-2017, 02:35:54</strong>
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				Wouldn't that be chaotic, though, not neutral?
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angie</strong> on <strong>16-11-2017, 02:40:00</strong>
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				I could go off about alignment, but, I'd rather not because it's no fun to argue about. Suffice to say that Lawful Good characters will usually respect laws that help facilitate "good" and will often oppose those that are directly tyrannical, while Chaotic Good will happily break any law he chooses before his morning breakfast. They're the ones more likely to off the big bad of the hour instead of taking him to trial, more likely to swipe an important item and promise to bring it back later, more likely to pick the locks and let slaves run wild rather than work to change the system. Basically, the main difference tends to be one of method:<br><br>Lawful: "Work within the laws and only break them when there is no other option."<br><br>Chaotic: "Screw the laws, I'm doing what's right!"<br><br>Neutral: "Whichever of those two above is more effective at the moment."
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>16-11-2017, 02:46:35</strong>
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				Hunh. That's an unfamiliar explanation, but if people can agree on it is I suppose the most important bit. 
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>ff</strong> on <strong>16-11-2017, 02:47:51</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13677053#msg13677053">Quote from: Angie on 16-11-2017, 02:40:00</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I could go off about alignment, but, I'd rather not because it's no fun to argue about. Suffice to say that Lawful Good characters will usually respect laws that help facilitate "good" and will often oppose those that are directly tyrannical, while Chaotic Good will happily break any law he chooses before his morning breakfast. They're the ones more likely to off the big bad of the hour instead of taking him to trial, more likely to swipe an important item and promise to bring it back later, more likely to pick the locks and let slaves run wild rather than work to change the system. Basically, the main difference tends to be one of method:<br><br>Lawful: "Work within the laws and only break them when there is no other option."<br><br>Chaotic: "Screw the laws, I'm doing what's right!"<br><br>Neutral: "Whichever of those two above is more effective at the moment."<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>This is the closest description so far to my own understanding. <br><br>Meanwhile, Lawful Evil characters tend to believe in using laws and power structures to get ahead, and probably desire to get into a position where they are the tyrant calling those shots, Neutral Evil characters are pure Machiavellian (personal benefit by whatever means is handy), and Chaotic Evil are at best merely selfish and antiauthoritarian, and at worst "just want to watch the world burn". Common examples are Vader and Palpatine as LE and the Joker and Kefka as CE. 
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angie</strong> on <strong>16-11-2017, 02:48:16</strong>
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				Also this is just an addendum but, don't get caught up on alignment. Think of it as a general guide to how your character would act but don't let it restrain you. 
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>ff</strong> on <strong>16-11-2017, 02:49:41</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13677072#msg13677072">Quote from: Angie on 16-11-2017, 02:48:16</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Also this is just an addendum but, don't get caught up on alignment. Think of it as a general guide to how your character would act but don't let it restrain you.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Very good advice for everyone. People never really end up agreeing on everything to do with alignment and if they try to enforce to to rigidly in an RP it leads to endless tail chasing debate, or Flanderization / self-caricature of characters. 
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>16-11-2017, 03:06:56</strong>
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				I thought of it more in terms of allegiance when I put that as a part of the character profiles. Basically, is this person a team player or are they more of a loner who wouldn't want to feel like a goody-two-shoes by joining a group of heroes? I guess it was more complicated than that.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angie</strong> on <strong>16-11-2017, 03:14:38</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13677117#msg13677117">Quote from: Mathim on 16-11-2017, 03:06:56</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I thought of it more in terms of allegiance when I put that as a part of the character profiles. Basically, is this person a team player or are they more of a loner who wouldn't want to feel like a goody-two-shoes by joining a group of heroes? I guess it was more complicated than that.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>That can certainly work. CGs are definitely more likely to go off on their own, but at the same time, nothing stops them from helping out others. In fact, often times their loner ways are directly meant to help others by taking care of problems that only they can solve and they don't need a team of Lawful types behind them wondering if picking locks, breaking into the bad guy's stronghold, and stabbing him 30 times in his sleep is the best course of action.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>16-11-2017, 03:19:22</strong>
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				So it'll be up to the lawful goodies then to try and rein them in and make them join up for the greater good.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>LamentingQuill</strong> on <strong>16-11-2017, 04:30:02</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13677158#msg13677158">Quote from: Mathim on 16-11-2017, 03:19:22</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">So it'll be up to the lawful goodies then to try and rein them in and make them join up for the greater good.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Lol, that's what Snow is all about, hence why she's neutral good... she's willing to do for the greater good what lawful good characters might cringe too much to do, even if she herself doesn't like it. She will never again suffer a tyranical villainlike her stepmother doing as they please, she'll stop them one way or another.<br><br>Snow White will definitely put forward a compelling recruit speech for anyone reluctant ;)
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				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>16-11-2017, 05:13:41</strong>
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				Well, don't forget, in order for a speech to be compelling, she'll have to know what is compelling to each character. Just the "greater good" argument isn't going to have any effect on Kit. <br><br>"It's for the greater good! Eventually, they'll get you, too!" <br>"I've felt that way about humans for almost four hundred years, none of you wanted to help avoid a genocide then."<br>"But, it's only a matter of time before they kill you!"<br>"I've hidden from the entire world for four hundred years, I can hide from one douchebag that isn't even after me, highness, for a few decades before he croaks."<br><br>Kit isn't the most agreeable person ever. 
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angie</strong> on <strong>16-11-2017, 05:45:12</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13677408#msg13677408">Quote from: Fury Aphrodisia on 16-11-2017, 05:13:41</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Well, don't forget, in order for a speech to be compelling, she'll have to know what is compelling to each character. Just the "greater good" argument isn't going to have any effect on Kit. <br><br>"It's for the greater good! Eventually, they'll get you, too!" <br>"I've felt that way about humans for almost four hundred years, none of you wanted to help avoid a genocide then."<br>"But, it's only a matter of time before they kill you!"<br>"I've hidden from the entire world for four hundred years, I can hide from one douchebag that isn't even after me, highness, for a few decades before he croaks."<br><br>Kit isn't the most agreeable person ever. <br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Bigby might have to step in and push the undecided into doing it. He may have to go all Terry Prachett's Death on people-and that was a character type I was very much considering! So some of his more wiser moments may have to be folded into Bigby. I even have a speech lined up! 
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>16-11-2017, 05:54:03</strong>
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				Well, that would...&nbsp; Certainly be an interesting confrontation. I'm not familiar with Pratchett's work. But the overall point is clear. <br><br>Not sure that would have the effect you're looking for, but it would be entertaining to see which lines would be drawn. 
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				Post by: <strong>Angie</strong> on <strong>16-11-2017, 06:38:12</strong>
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				Death is actually a really nice guy in the Discworld books. He's far more of a wise mentor type who treats the reaping of souls as a job-because it is. He actually cares way more about humans then he ever lets on. Bigby might have started acting in a similar way-yes he still inspires fear, that's his job, but now that he's more philosophical about it he's more then just the primal essence of fear, at least.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>16-11-2017, 06:55:46</strong>
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				Ah, that brings some much-needed perspective! I thought we were already getting into the "figure out who dies" stage, and I was a little tense. But that makes a lot more sense, then, and might work. He'd have a good chance of being able to pinpoint what would tip the scales for her. And of course, if you can convince Wukong into it, Kit will probably follow along anyway. 
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>16-11-2017, 07:05:07</strong>
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				Would it help to know that Rumple will be mocking them all for fighting and arguing among themselves, which will make them all easy pickings for him?
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angie</strong> on <strong>16-11-2017, 07:25:40</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13677573#msg13677573">Quote from: Mathim on 16-11-2017, 07:05:07</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Would it help to know that Rumple will be mocking them all for fighting and arguing among themselves, which will make them all easy pickings for him?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>In that case, Bigby will just shut up, but he'll be smiling knowingly the whole time.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>TheHangedOne</strong> on <strong>16-11-2017, 16:50:59</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13677573#msg13677573">Quote from: Mathim on 16-11-2017, 07:05:07</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Would it help to know that Rumple will be mocking them all for fighting and arguing among themselves, which will make them all easy pickings for him?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Cu Chulainn is basically there for the challenge (hence Chaotic), but is ultimately a Good person (even if fighting the other heroes would be a bigger challenge, he'd never work for ol' rumpy-dumpy).&nbsp; I'm pretty sure if he shows up in some manifestation, it'll get the guy known for berserker rage fits to inspire everybody to fight together.&nbsp; &gt;:) i.e. "No man would take that trash talk sitting down. Time to sharpen the swords, there's killin' to do."
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>16-11-2017, 22:29:18</strong>
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				Would he sacrifice himself to save another, though? That's the real measure of a hero.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>16-11-2017, 23:11:42</strong>
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				Which means by default, Kit is absolutely not a hero. <br><br>"They're going to burn to death!" <br>"Yeah.... that sucks." <br>"Hurry or they'll die!"<br>"Yeah, but... I don't know if you've noticed, I'm made of fur. Fur is flammable." <br>"You're not going to help them?"<br>"No, I'm... I'm not really, no." <br>"You're no hero!"<br>"Naw, have you noticed those are in short supply? Survival rate is nothing to envy."
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angie</strong> on <strong>17-11-2017, 07:40:50</strong>
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				Well, we do have the IC open, for any who want to use it.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>LamentingQuill</strong> on <strong>17-11-2017, 07:43:12</strong>
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				I will get something up for Snow White tomorrow after my errands.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>17-11-2017, 16:08:40</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13679860#msg13679860">Quote from: Angie on 17-11-2017, 07:40:50</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Well, we do have the IC open, for any who want to use it.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Yup. No restrictions on anyone posting, by all means, everyone, if you feel ready, have at it. The invitations have been sent, so whether you've already accepted it and gone through the mirror to Snow's court or are still mulling it over, or if you're villainous and want to stay out of it and/or are contemplating joining Rumplestiltskin, that's really your only prompt, the rest is up to your creative minds.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>LamentingQuill</strong> on <strong>17-11-2017, 18:41:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13680336#msg13680336">Quote from: Mathim on 17-11-2017, 16:08:40</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Yup. No restrictions on anyone posting, by all means, everyone, if you feel ready, have at it. The invitations have been sent, so whether you've already accepted it and gone through the mirror to Snow's court or are still mulling it over, or if you're villainous and want to stay out of it and/or are contemplating joining Rumplestiltskin, that's really your only prompt, the rest is up to your creative minds.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>In addition to this, Snow White would have distributed one of her late stepmother's many traveling mirrors to each of her allies. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>17-11-2017, 18:46:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				But pretty much any mirror can be reached, provided it's accessed through the Master mirror in her castle. Also they can use compact mirrors as primitive cell phones.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Juggtacular</strong> on <strong>17-11-2017, 19:01:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Wukong wouldn't need much<del>any</del> convincing. His mission from Buddha is to kick Rumple's ass, so he's in from the get go. Besides, that tiara burns like shit if he doesn't do what Buddha says, lol. And when they succeed, he becomes the Jade Heaven's equal. So suck it Jade Emperor!!! -Monkey Dance-
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>LamentingQuill</strong> on <strong>17-11-2017, 19:08:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13680546#msg13680546">Quote from: Juggtacular on 17-11-2017, 19:01:17</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Wukong wouldn't need much<del>any</del> convincing. His mission from Buddha is to kick Rumple's ass, so he's in from the get go. Besides, that tiara burns like shit if he doesn't do what Buddha says, lol. And when they succeed, he becomes the Jade Heaven's equal. So suck it Jade Emperor!!! -Monkey Dance-<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I admit, I am highly fascinated by your monkey king ^.^
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Juggtacular</strong> on <strong>17-11-2017, 19:15:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13680555#msg13680555">Quote from: LamentingQuill on 17-11-2017, 19:08:32</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I admit, I am highly fascinated by your monkey king ^.^<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Why thank you. The key is to have fun, and realize that we humans are basically monkeys anyway so just act natural.&nbsp; XD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>17-11-2017, 22:10:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				He says of the creature that jumps five hundred kilometers or something and flies on a cloud. Yeah, act natural. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Juggtacular</strong> on <strong>17-11-2017, 22:18:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13680867#msg13680867">Quote from: Fury Aphrodisia on 17-11-2017, 22:10:20</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">He says of the creature that jumps five hundred kilometers or something and flies on a cloud. Yeah, act natural.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Yep, completely natural. Using the "Pickle Rick" argument - Monkey King does what he does, because he can.&nbsp; XD<br><br>"The reason anyone would do this, if they could. Which they can't. Would be because they could, which they can't."
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>17-11-2017, 22:28:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I don't know what half you said actually means, but it sounds precisely how I feel about raising children. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>18-11-2017, 04:05:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				You need to watch Rick and Morty, is the gist of what it means. LOL.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>18-11-2017, 04:08:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I don't know about need to. But I do know that I've heard many people speak favourably of it. Mind you, never in anything resembling detail, but they do tend to say the same kind of thing you've said. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Juggtacular</strong> on <strong>18-11-2017, 04:21:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				He's right, but yeah the main point of that statement is from an episode when Rick being the infinitely smart genius that he is, turns himself into a pickle simply because he wants to get out of going to family therapy. His grandson Morty asks him why he did it(as Rick hadn't given a reason yet), and why anyone even would do it. Rick basically says, "The reason I do any of the crazy super-science shit I do, is because I can. Other people would too if they could, but they can't, which is why they don't. The reason I do? Is because I can." <br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>18-11-2017, 04:22:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, definitely sounds like child-rearing to me!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angie</strong> on <strong>20-11-2017, 21:01:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				So uh...there was a Snow White post coming, right?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>LamentingQuill</strong> on <strong>20-11-2017, 21:06:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13687784#msg13687784">Quote from: Angie on 20-11-2017, 21:01:54</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">So uh...there was a Snow White post coming, right?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Yes, tonight hopefully, RL swooped in to betch slap me randomly in the face. I'll work hard to get it prepared by tonight.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>21-11-2017, 00:02:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13681507#msg13681507">Quote from: Fury Aphrodisia on 18-11-2017, 04:22:48</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Well, definitely sounds like child-rearing to me!<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I think their idea of child-<span class="bbc_u">rearing</span> is like when Rick forced Morty to hide illegal, pointy fist-sized seeds in his bum to smuggle them through alien customs.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>21-11-2017, 00:04:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ok, now I'm really not wanting to watch...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>21-11-2017, 01:17:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That was just the pilot episode. Things get a lot less juvenile as it goes along (or at least, when it does go juvenile, it's appealing.)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>21-11-2017, 01:46:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Enh.&nbsp; I'm glad it's something you guys can enjoy, in any case. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>LamentingQuill</strong> on <strong>21-11-2017, 05:27:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm gonna get some ground work done tonight and finish up tomorrow early afternoon while I have my coffee. You guys are sexy and fabulous for being so patient ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>ff</strong> on <strong>21-11-2017, 09:32:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13689052#msg13689052">Quote from: LamentingQuill on 21-11-2017, 05:27:54</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'm gonna get some ground work done tonight and finish up tomorrow early afternoon while I have my coffee. You guys are sexy and fabulous for being so patient ;)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>No worries, love. It's about to be Thanksgiving anyway so people will be out and such.<br><br>Related, I'll be gone-ish now thru mid next week on Thanksgiving vacation.<br><br>&nbsp;<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>21-11-2017, 10:43:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Right! Happy Thanksgiving to all my American friends!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>LamentingQuill</strong> on <strong>21-11-2017, 20:02:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Okay, I am awake now, later than I intended (grumbles) and I will begin finishing my intro for Snow. Shouldn't be any longer from now than an hour or two.<br><br>Also, I am working up the blue fairy from Pinnochio's tale to be a loyal aid to Snow White.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>21-11-2017, 21:51:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Aww...someone should play an evil Pinocchio as a foil to her.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>21-11-2017, 22:03:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				So long as we can actually get posts up soon, I'm all for having a Pinocchio rolling around. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>LamentingQuill</strong> on <strong>22-11-2017, 02:03:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just about finished with this post, I was made to go to the store to get some things for the folks, so I got delayed by a couple hours.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>23-11-2017, 03:58:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*Clap clap* Beautiful posts, I hope we can have everyone jump in and maintain that quality soon.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>23-11-2017, 22:59:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Do we have posts? I must have lost the main thread. It might take me a bit to dig it up. <br><br>Edit: Juggs, I can't post till you do!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>24-11-2017, 17:29:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I ended up staying overnight Thanksgiving with a friend whose internet is from back in the stone-age and now I just found out I left a receipt from Gamestop at the store so I have ride back there, and then hit another Black Friday sale elsewhere so I might not be able to get my intro post up til late afternoon or evening today.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>TheHangedOne</strong> on <strong>28-11-2017, 03:39:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry it took so long to get a post up. I hope it works for everyone. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>LamentingQuill</strong> on <strong>28-11-2017, 05:04:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Let me know when it's good for Snow White to respond, I don't want to jump back in too fast or at the wrong time.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>28-11-2017, 05:07:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I will get a post up tonight if at all possible! Should be... But just in case, tomorrow evening at the latest. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>28-11-2017, 23:08:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13708893#msg13708893">Quote from: LamentingQuill on 28-11-2017, 05:04:55</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Let me know when it's good for Snow White to respond, I don't want to jump back in too fast or at the wrong time.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I think Jugg's latest response would be a good one to jump back in after. She may not like how justifying how some of the heroes might be convinced to do what they've been asked, but she'll know that 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend', even if later on, they might be at odds too.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>LamentingQuill</strong> on <strong>28-11-2017, 23:11:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'll have something up either tonight or tomorrow at some point.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>A Painter</strong> on <strong>02-12-2017, 09:45:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<em>wheezes</em><br><br>I finally have time to myself! But very briefly. Hey, my name is Painter! I look forward to playing with you all. I hope to have read all the posts and maybe even posted for myself by the middle of next week!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>LamentingQuill</strong> on <strong>03-12-2017, 02:40:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'll be posting tomorrow, my RL slammed me over the last few days.<br><br>It would be a big help to know where exactly everyone is presently at.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angie</strong> on <strong>03-12-2017, 02:57:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, I'm in one of the guest rooms. Red probably joined me. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>LamentingQuill</strong> on <strong>04-12-2017, 03:56:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I feel like a broken record, but I got slammed with last minute birthday celebration preparation for my sister's boyfriend, it's safe to say I am utterly exhausted. I will be posting tomorrow, even if I have to lock my door and hide from the household, lol.<br><br>However, they can always get to know each other a bit, they aren't even supposed to be meeting with Snow White until later in the evening anyway.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angie</strong> on <strong>06-12-2017, 22:14:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I get the strangest feeling that Bigby may not be the most polite of dinner guests...bets on whose worse at the dinner table, him or Wukong?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>LamentingQuill</strong> on <strong>06-12-2017, 22:17:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13732719#msg13732719">Quote from: Angie on 06-12-2017, 22:14:28</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I get the strangest feeling that Bigby may not be the most polite of dinner guests...bets on whose worse at the dinner table, him or Wukong?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Snow White lived with Dwarves, she can handle anything ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>ff</strong> on <strong>06-12-2017, 22:42:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPuH5zcxqRk
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>LamentingQuill</strong> on <strong>06-12-2017, 22:49:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13732783#msg13732783">Quote from: ff on 06-12-2017, 22:42:16</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPuH5zcxqRk<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Haha! Bascially, yeah!<br><br>Although the dwarves did TRY to behave for Snow White as much as they possibly could.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>ff</strong> on <strong>06-12-2017, 23:33:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'll bet they did<br><br>(http://coloringbookcorruptions.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/IMG_20140728_061002.jpg)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>LamentingQuill</strong> on <strong>07-12-2017, 00:05:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13732880#msg13732880">Quote from: ff on 06-12-2017, 23:33:09</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'll bet they did<br><br>(http://coloringbookcorruptions.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/IMG_20140728_061002.jpg)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>o.O
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>07-12-2017, 12:27:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Out of curiosity, how does Bigby know what's in Kit's mind? Or was that author exposition? <br><br>Edit: Cu Chulainn was definitely a part of the Dannan, though, was he not? I mean, if I recall correctly, he was closely tied to Lugh. While he may have his own idea of "heaven", wouldn't he at least be willing to accept that it was possible for a mortal to become divine in some fashion? 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angie</strong> on <strong>07-12-2017, 18:12:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13734133#msg13734133">Quote from: Fury Aphrodisia on 07-12-2017, 12:27:27</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Out of curiosity, how does Bigby know what's in Kit's mind? Or was that author exposition? <br><br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Mostly exposition, though assuming he knows if she's the last or not, he'd probably guess that she's afraid of it. That said, he probably doesn't know that bit. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>07-12-2017, 18:48:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Okay. Just wanted to be sure. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>11-12-2017, 19:45:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Okay, now I have to ask... I've never considered Kit to be fearful before. How or where is he getting that from? 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angie</strong> on <strong>11-12-2017, 21:18:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Fuck it, I'll just rewrite that part when i get home. I'm starting to really hate Bigby, getting how afraid someone is or isn't just sets me up for a way too easy rebuttal. Can i reroll my character?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>11-12-2017, 22:00:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, hang on, maybe there's another way to look at the power? Maybe he can sense fear, but not necessarily know where it comes from? Or maybe shades of fear, such as uncertainty right through to terror? Because Kit would certainly have some uncertainty, but while she's distrusting, she's more bitter and angry about it than anything else. Maybe Bigby can help stoke or quell fear in other people? If there's a little fear there, he can make it worse, or if there's too much he can make it a little better? Or, we could just be mindful of Bigby's abilities and make sure we put some exposition into our posts to let you know what level of fear they're feeling? 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angie</strong> on <strong>11-12-2017, 22:14:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Technically i did forget to put the whole "fear sense" somewhere in there. Like, he has it as a required secondary power so he can use his ability to increase it. I don't know though. I feel like I'm trying to play a character that's way outside what i can actually do. I don't know what I'm doing with this guy and it just doesn't feel like what I'm trying is working.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>11-12-2017, 22:35:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				In the end, it has to be your decision what to do with the character. But I'm willing to work with you in any way I can to help out. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>TheHangedOne</strong> on <strong>12-12-2017, 18:13:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13734133#msg13734133">Quote from: Fury Aphrodisia on 07-12-2017, 12:27:27</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Edit: Cu Chulainn was definitely a part of the Dannan, though, was he not? I mean, if I recall correctly, he was closely tied to Lugh. While he may have his own idea of "heaven", wouldn't he at least be willing to accept that it was possible for a mortal to become divine in some fashion?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>In Celtic mythology there really isn't an actual Heaven, so the word itself wouldn't mean anything to him. They have Mag Mell (The Land of Promise) and Tir na nOg (The Land of Ever Youth), which can be likened to Heaven/paradise. And yes, Cu Chulainn was said to be the son of Lugh, but he was raised on Earth (though I'm playing him as having spent a significant amount of time in the Otherworld, which is where the Sidhe live, and which is definitely nowhere near comparable to Heaven, Hell, Purgatory or any other similar concepts, and I would liken more to an alternate dimension/parallel universe). <br><br>Anyways, that's the interpretation I went with/what I was going for: semantic confusion. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>12-12-2017, 19:02:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I have always loved Celtic lore. <br><br>yeah, Cu Chulainn was always considered mortal and merely an incarnation of Lugh/son of Lugh (depending on whether you're working directly from the Ulster cycle and how much Catholic influence you're working with), so there'd have to be definitely some modifications no matter which way you go (also because Celtic mythology is cyclical and confusing, since there's really no chronological progression and even the Fomorai were said to have existed and not existed at the same time, long before the rise of the Danann properly and long after the final fall of man). Mag Mell was about as close to Heaven as they would have gotten, though. Their Elysium, for all intents and purposes. So I suppose I can see where the confusion might come from. I had thought it was outright denial, so I was, in turn, also confused. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>TheHangedOne</strong> on <strong>13-12-2017, 16:07:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry about the confusion. It's something I love, but as you said it yourself, the mythology itself is pretty warped (which tends to happen when a thousand years of it was nothing but oral tradition, and then the only people to really dedicate it to paper were foreign invaders of a sort, but I digress). 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>13-12-2017, 16:39:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Absolutely! And not only that, but you had multiple tribes with their own lore, and following that there was the Roman invasion what only partly copied the wise words, and then from that point it was wave after wave of partly-copied, roughly-translated stories cobbled together from the "expertise" of previous invaders. <br><br>Fascinating culture, but there's always more layers to delve into because there's always someone else's interpretation that has all but obliterated the initial lore. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>13-12-2017, 23:31:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				As long as it's a cool story I don't care how close it is to the original telling.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>14-12-2017, 01:46:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, yeah, for things like this I can agree completely. We're free to take license here. But when it comes to the lore of an entire peoples, I tend to feel more than a little affronted by lazy fact-checking and arrogant claims of expertise ruining an entire generation or more's opportunity to learn of their heritage in any meaningful way. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>14-12-2017, 02:36:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I thought most stories were multifaceted. It's something I just accepted and went with. I have heard so many iterations of various Greek myths, for instance, that I was under the impression there was no such thing as canon in theirs or any other such mythos.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>14-12-2017, 06:40:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think the difference in my mind is that the variances in Greek mythology are organic. The differences in Irish-specific mythology are the result of waves of invaders trying to suppress them and portray their culture as inferior. First the Romans, and then the Catholic Church. The Greek myths were, yes, amalgamated into the Roman empire in much the same way, except with the Greeks, they already had the tendency to record their own histories and were therefore able to preserve a version of their past for themselves. And, as far as the Catholic church goes, retelling of their traditions was never outlawed in the same way since the Helenistic civilization was not only closely tied to the Romans - with which Jesus himself had direct history - but had largely faded by the time the Catholic church came to power. In the case of Celtic mythology, however, it was a tradition that was still alive and well when the Catholic church came to their shores and the people were put to death en masse if they defied the orders of the church in reciting the "barbaric, heretical" version of events instead of the version that the church favoured. <br><br>This didn't happen on the same scale with the Greeks because they were considered civilized and enlightened.<br><br>It's the same bone I have to pick with how colonization of the western "new world" eroded native culture in very strong ways, imposing Christian themes and values on already-standing oral traditions. Because it wasn't recorded in a "civilized" manner, it was considered disposable. As with the Irish and Scottish in particular, there is no known record of any original tales without the Catholic and later European influence. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>14-12-2017, 06:44:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I understand where you're coming from, since you look at it primarily as entertainment. I'm coming from a place of frustration since between the shores of Cork County and the Mohawk nation lies my direct bloodline. My mother is of Irish descent and my father is Mohawk. Between the two cultures, very little of their initial ideals and beliefs can be traced with a certainty, because of the cultures that were enforced on them. So while to you it's just a nice story, to me it's a reminder that I will never know the roots of my culture because we didn't share our wisdom the way the self-appointed powers of the day wanted us to in order to be considered legitimate. <br><br>In other words, to you it's just a story, to me it's lost identity. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>14-12-2017, 07:18:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh. I mean...I don't even know my ethnic background, and honestly never really cared or gave it a thought, so it never occurred to me others might feel that way about things. I've just never had that identity as part of my psyche so it never felt like it was lost since it's something I never had to begin with.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>14-12-2017, 08:18:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That's fair. I come from traditions that are fiercely proud, to say the least, so it just happens to be part of my cultural makeup. As well as a good deal of resentment. I suppose you could say I'm genetically inclined. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>TheHangedOne</strong> on <strong>14-12-2017, 16:16:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				It's all good.&nbsp; :-)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>14-12-2017, 16:52:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13752187#msg13752187">Quote from: Fury Aphrodisia on 14-12-2017, 08:18:59</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">That's fair. I come from traditions that are fiercely proud, to say the least, so it just happens to be part of my cultural makeup. As well as a good deal of resentment. I suppose you could say I'm genetically inclined.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I can see how that would be. It literally never came up with my 'family'. Never knew one entire side of the gene pool and the other was adopted and the grandparents were super old and demented anyway so I literally don't know where I came from.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>14-12-2017, 18:02:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sounds like your story could kind of make up for it, though. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>14-12-2017, 18:16:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Eh...it's more depressing than harrowing.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>14-12-2017, 18:31:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry. Didn't mean to bring up bad stuff. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>15-12-2017, 00:43:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Nah, just saying it wouldn't make a good story, is all.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>15-12-2017, 00:55:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Apparently we do not watch the same movies. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>15-12-2017, 04:16:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh, I don't doubt that. I'm kind of all over the place with my taste in films and most of them are really esoteric.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>15-12-2017, 17:28:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, it's brought us Avengers Grimm, so it can't be all bad. I couldn't quite finish the movie myself, but I saw enough to get an idea of it. <br><br>Last night, i spent watching my own favourite movie (Boondock Saints. The original, not All Saint's Day) for the ... what, fortieth time? Then I fell asleep watching Never Back Down. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Juggtacular</strong> on <strong>15-12-2017, 18:00:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13755141#msg13755141">Quote from: Fury Aphrodisia on 15-12-2017, 17:28:33</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Well, it's brought us Avengers Grimm, so it can't be all bad. I couldn't quite finish the movie myself, but I saw enough to get an idea of it. <br><br>Last night, i spent watching my own favourite movie (Boondock Saints. The original, not All Saint's Day) for the ... what, fortieth time? Then I fell asleep watching Never Back Down.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I remember Never Back Down. That was back before Quicksilver discovered his speed.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>15-12-2017, 18:02:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, getting involved with Twilight vampires can make me want to run away that fast, too, especially when they put you in the hospital right before the Beatdown!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>15-12-2017, 18:48:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm so confused about what you guys are referencing there. How does Never Back Down connect to Twilight?<br><br>But Boondock Saints is definitely on my favorite non-superhero movies list. Too bad part 2 wasn't able to live up to it. It had some moments but just wasn't fun.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>15-12-2017, 19:01:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I agree. And now I've heard rumours about making a third one! <br><br>Never Back Down has actors in it who have also appeared in the X-Men series (Quicksilver played by the same guy who plays the main character's best friend in Never Back Down) and the antagonist in Never Back Down also plays an antagonist in the first Twilight movie. So, where Juggs made the reference that Quicksilver (whose character personality is much like that of the character played in NBD) hadn't learned to use his speed yet, I pointed out that the character that plays the antagonist in both Twilight and NBD was the one who put the NBD version of the Quicksilver character into the hospital. <br><br>Basically, it was Juggs making a reference to another movie, with both of us testing the waters to see what references we would each pick up on. It's a quick and easy way to see if our tastes in pop culture (or at least our ability to maneuver around in it) can be said to follow some of the same lines. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>15-12-2017, 19:03:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I just didn't know what actors were in those god-awful piece of crap movies so I was like, WTF?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>15-12-2017, 19:04:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Aww... I liked Never Back Down. But for Twilight, I understand the contention. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Juggtacular</strong> on <strong>15-12-2017, 19:15:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				NBD 1-3 are awesome if you just like intense ass kicking sequences. THey're not gonna win awards though.<br><br>Twilight I also watch for the action, and it's got some cool people. Colossus, Lucian(Underworld), Mr. Robot, etc...<br><br>But yeah the movies are kinda garbage, and I'm so mad we only got the wolf shifters, and not the "Children of the Moon", real fucking werewolves who decimate hundreds of vampires at a time.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>15-12-2017, 19:33:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				There are some good combat-y bits of Twilight, which are good if you can ignore some of the weird interpersonal awkward moments. <br><br>Although, for my go-to combat movie when all I want is battle, I definitely go with 300.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>LamentingQuill</strong> on <strong>15-12-2017, 20:17:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				blech, the mention of Twilight triggers my gag reflex &gt;.&lt;
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>16-12-2017, 07:37:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13755509#msg13755509">Quote from: LamentingQuill on 15-12-2017, 20:17:28</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">blech, the mention of Twilight triggers my gag reflex &gt;.&lt;<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Thank you!<br><br><br>And if you guys are looking for a movie with ass-kicking action scenes, look no further than Kung Fu Hustle.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>LamentingQuill</strong> on <strong>16-12-2017, 08:40:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Anyway my smexy party people, whenever anyone wants to meander down to the Great Hall to converse with Snow White, feel free. For description sake, she is seated in deep thought at a large rounded table intended for a medium to large group, she wanted the vibe to be more intimate and casual than one of the massive long tables with everyone so spread out would have provided.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>16-12-2017, 17:16:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Don't forget, there's a ghastly-looking seagull/pelican-esque bird monster dropping in to deliver Rumple's message. Anyone can feel free to react to that too.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>16-12-2017, 17:18:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Aren't we waiting for Red?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>ff</strong> on <strong>17-12-2017, 02:08:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Whoopsie, will post soon
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>LamentingQuill</strong> on <strong>17-12-2017, 04:13:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13757389#msg13757389">Quote from: Mathim on 16-12-2017, 17:16:53</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Don't forget, there's a ghastly-looking seagull/pelican-esque bird monster dropping in to deliver Rumple's message. Anyone can feel free to react to that too.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Be kinda funny if it flew in an open window and dropped it right into Snow White's lap... well, she might not find it funny, but we would xD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>17-12-2017, 05:15:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think more appropriately, it would land on the table in the middle of dinner, knocking things over, making a loud noise, molting feathers everywhere, stinking up the place with its dirty body, and, since it would at that point have everyone's undivided attention, it would deliver the message.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>LamentingQuill</strong> on <strong>17-12-2017, 08:13:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13758662#msg13758662">Quote from: Mathim on 17-12-2017, 05:15:53</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I think more appropriately, it would land on the table in the middle of dinner, knocking things over, making a loud noise, molting feathers everywhere, stinking up the place with its dirty body, and, since it would at that point have everyone's undivided attention, it would deliver the message.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>what a way to say 'eh baby, what up? what color panties you wearing? ;)'<br><br>haha, jk xD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>17-12-2017, 17:03:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				It very well might ask that if it sees Snow White, since Rumple sees everything it sees.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angie</strong> on <strong>21-12-2017, 08:34:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh shit, I've been out for so long. I'll get a post up tomorrow.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>28-12-2017, 18:16:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I do intend to post. With the holidays, things went nuts. I plan to post tonight. Sorry everyone! (Especially Juggs!)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Angie</strong> on <strong>30-12-2017, 07:07:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				So I know I've been kinda quiet ever since my last post, and I know I should respond to Red but I'm trying to give the rest of our party (which is admittedly somewhat small) a chance to post. Don't wanna monopolize it.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Juggtacular</strong> on <strong>30-12-2017, 07:18:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I was waiting on Hanged. But ill post tonight.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>ff</strong> on <strong>30-12-2017, 09:17:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Out-ish on holiday til mid next week myself
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>TheHangedOne</strong> on <strong>30-12-2017, 11:59:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah, it's just that time of year. Let me get something up. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>30-12-2017, 14:48:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ooooh, from the wording of the invitation and such, I thought there was going to be a time gap between arrival and dinner, my bad. I'm going to have to add some to my post, but am unlikely to be able to do it as immediately as I'd like. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>30-12-2017, 17:14:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, not everyone has to show up to the table at the same time, some people might be making up their minds still. I'm mainly waiting to see Snow's reaction to the dirty birdy.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>30-12-2017, 17:33:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'll be honest, I haven't read that bit yet. I figured there was still a few hours. I'll wait to see what Juggs does. I haven't moved Kit towards the dining room yet, but she'll follow wherever Sun decides to go, there's too many people around for her to want to be on her own. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>LamentingQuill</strong> on <strong>31-12-2017, 08:25:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'll get a post in tomorrow afternoon 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>26-02-2018, 15:59:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				This has been quiet for about two months now. Are we still able to revive it, or does it have to be dead again, for now?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>26-02-2018, 19:14:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278269.msg13953349#msg13953349">Quote from: Fury Aphrodisia on 26-02-2018, 15:59:34</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">This has been quiet for about two months now. Are we still able to revive it, or does it have to be dead again, for now?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I'll start a new one eventually. But if you know of anyone who might be interested on the next go-round, PM me their username and I can send out a mass message once I'm up to beginning a new one.<br><br>Also if anyone is good at manipulating images, I've got one I have been wanting to use as a world map of this fairy tale land but it's kind of blurry and it's hard to fit the names of each region the landmasses represent, and it would be awesome if we could get a good-looking finished product of it as our game logo.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>02-03-2018, 17:19:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm not sure. I haven't really been able to get a good grip on anyone's characters aside from Juggs and I. We keep stopping after about half a dozen posts. I'm going to be back next time, because I love our characters so much, but if we can't get some momentum going, I'll have to find something else for this slot. I'm sorry, sweetie, but as much as I love your ideas, we always seem to die off pretty quickly. <br><br>Is there any way I can help with a solution to that? 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>LamentingQuill</strong> on <strong>02-03-2018, 17:41:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Personally I think lightly has something to do with people staying on one scene for too long. At certain times, that's no issue whatsoever, but early on before we've really got firm ground to stand on, it's a big risky gamble to do that... especially when you have a story going on. Just my experience and opinion.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Fury Aphrodisia</strong> on <strong>02-03-2018, 18:09:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, I'm sure there's different ways to do it. I prefer to have longer scenes to get more information and development and description going. Long posts, long scenes. I've actually been finding that we've been moving on rather quickly without establishing character. We barely got a chance to introduce ourselves to the other characters before we were suddenly in a banquet? Some characters weren't even in the game yet, never posted before we had the vulture show up, and some players were in the game but not yet at the banquet before that. <br><br>Even that is manageable, though, except the part where people are being put all into one scene right off the hop, and we have people at vastly different posting rates. Some posting once a day, others once every two weeks. There's nothing wrong with either rate or anywhere in between, but it's hard to set pacing to a story in that regard. Having to have all the characters go to Snow in order to start things is alright, I suppose, if we're all starting in the same place. But when characters are coming from individuals and small groups all over to have to meet up with Snow, to find out that Rumple is the big bad.... and that's as far as we get, every time. We all have to rush to get there, and then the story dies as soon as we're all at/going to the same place. <br><br>I honestly think we're rushing too fast at first and not really getting any chance to write anything of quality before then. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avengers Grimm: OOC Thread</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>03-03-2018, 05:19:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think what I'll have happen next time is Rumplestiltskin already marching on the lands that Snow White's kingdom lies in, and forcing an early conflict before he himself arrives in their midst, solidifying their resolve to unite against him despite their own differences. The common enemy factor will push those who would otherwise not wish to associate to suck it up and admit they need help to repel the threat.
			</dd>
		</dl>
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