Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion
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				Title: <strong>Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>17-10-2009, 22:38:26</strong>
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				Thread for OOC discussion involving Down on the Farm
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 00:18:12</strong>
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				Would anyone like to coordinate victim characters? I'm thinking my character and perhaps a couple others would be on a road trip and their car would conveniently break down near the farm.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 00:30:05</strong>
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				I'd very much like to participate in that- Out of the two angles I have worked out for my characters, only one would somewhat make sense.<br><br>One is that of a semi-private investigator who would be rather suspicious of the farm and would probably advise them to NOT go there.<br><br>And the other would probably go there by bus or something. She does not know about the true nature of the farm, so maybe she could suggest to go to that place?<br><br>So yeah, that would be my five cents on how to get people to the farm?
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 00:34:33</strong>
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				What I was going for was that my character and 2-3 others would be headed out west for whatever. Spring Break, vacation, etc. And their junker car blows a gasket in the area of the farm- total coincidence, not any divine intervention.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 00:35:50</strong>
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				would anyone be interested in playing the male co-owner of the farm?&nbsp; Have the scientist co-owner, just not sure if I wanna play both
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 00:41:30</strong>
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				Well, in roleplays with multiple characters, I often just play two, but in this case, I'd be willing to play the owner as well. However, I will only do so if absolutely necessary and there is no other volunteer.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 00:58:35</strong>
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				Hey Chuu, curious, for Kanami are you wanting a clit cock, or new hole and everything? and I just realized I forgot to list one possible mod! lol, voice.&nbsp; Messing with the vocal cords to prevent speaking or make it so only grunts and other types of animal noises were possible
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 01:02:59</strong>
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				Actually, I don't know if I even want her to have one. That's why I put it in optionally. I envision her to be, you know, a true dog to her owner, loyal and helpful, utterly submissive. So while a cock would not really work when she is just a pet, it could work if the owner wants her to break others.<br><br>That's why I haven't really made up my mind... maybe a cock that can grow on command, with a chemical solution? maybe an apparatus inside her that controls it?
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 01:05:06</strong>
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				ah, well I could definitly see Amy using her in that way, if she winds up Kanami's owner.&nbsp; Though she is the only possible owner at the moment till we get more farmers lol
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 01:09:54</strong>
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				Well I've posted my profiles. Two things.<br><br>1.) If anyone would like to play the Co-owner along with Amy, thewhitedusk's character, just let me know. You can take over Alves or I can just scrap Alves. He's a failsafe for if too many people want to be livestock or pets, because frankly we need people to dominate as well as to submit.<br><br>2.) If anyone wants to be among Holly's friends on their fated roadtrip, just let me know. It would be easier to introduce multiple characters to the game that way.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 01:12:21</strong>
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				also, about Kanami, are you wanting the dog ears as extra to her own, or the dog ears in place of her human ones?
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 01:15:19</strong>
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				Well, Kanami's dog 'genes' would be that of a Shiba Inu, and if you look at pictures of those, I'd say the only way would be for Kanami to have them extra.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 01:18:03</strong>
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				lol I have seen weirder things done with ears then somehow surgically moving them to the top/side of head, but would be very interesting to see a woman with both lol.&nbsp; Do you want both to be functional, or the top purely cosmetic?
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 01:20:51</strong>
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				Wow, are we going that far into the matter? Well, I'd say there has to be some use for them, so yeah, functional =D
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 01:22:57</strong>
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				lol sorry, guess I am getting a bit overexcited about this.&nbsp; Prolly would have had the char sheet up sooner if I havent been sick lately.&nbsp; I am really glad I actually got soo many replies of interest in it, I was not expecting it XD
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 05:26:05</strong>
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				http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50239.0 (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50239.0)<br><br>My two characters so far are below. I am thinking of a third, pending thewhitedusk's approval. <br><br>As you will note, I wove my first character in quite well, I believe. She will provide the mula to keep things running and protection. She also has a sharp personality, -chuckles-. 
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 11:14:32</strong>
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				Will there be other humans already in work at the farm or will this rp begin pretty much right after the farm was founded, so that our characters are among the first to be processed there?<br><br>In that case, my idea was to introduce Kanami right away and have her become somewhat of a helper to their cause as time passes.<br><br>My other character, the CIA Agent, will only come into play once most of the other characters are already processed. So I'll save her introduction for later on.<br><br>I am also toying with the idea of making a Stable master-kind of character. As of now, we only have one (1!) male character. So yeah, if no one else shows up to take that kind of position, I'd play him as well.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 14:01:06</strong>
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				Hm... maybe with just one or two girls already there, their first test subjects, before they actually started in earnest?&nbsp; I could see that working.&nbsp; Kanami and the others would be the first true people, the others just basically test runs and kept out of sight possibly.&nbsp; Or would it just be easier for everyone if no one was yet an animal?&nbsp; And yeah, you guys can have 3 characters
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 14:09:21</strong>
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				Well, the characters of Sally (the pig girl) and the personal pet of Danica, Deserea, are obviously meant to be already processed and at the farm before the rp starts. So yeah, I'd guess that would work.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 14:11:49</strong>
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				Alright.&nbsp; So... should we wait for more profiles to come in, or start up while we wait?
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 17:47:01</strong>
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				I'm wondering who my character Raiga should belong to..<br><br>Also, Yay for being the first full, natural animal. xD
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 17:49:16</strong>
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				thats why I am hoping for more workers, so we have more people who can claim pets.&nbsp; I am seeing Amy as taking Kanami, since she came for vet training, and Amy is the vet, and once modified, Kanami can "help" her with the others that come in
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 17:51:07</strong>
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				Hmm..Amy could take Raiga too, if she likes..to help break the girls into the beastiality (Those that want it, that is), ya know? Just an Idea. :D
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 17:52:14</strong>
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				Agreed to that plan, sounds fine to me =D<br><br>and I'd think Raiga and Kanami would make a pretty good match too, seeing as Kanami is quite fitting for him ;-D
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 17:53:23</strong>
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				Well that are both dogs. *winks* ..Kinda. xD
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 17:55:51</strong>
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				Okay, I've got this idea: If the car breaks down with Doomsdays characters and Kanami meets up with them, they go to the farm together. Kanami will be led to Amy directly and she will be changed without much of a delay (how much time does have to pass for the transformation to be completed anyway?) or at least she is mentally broken in.<br><br>Meanwhile, the others are persuaded to stay the night and the next morning, they are confronted with what Kanami has (or will) become and they will share their fate.<br><br>That sound good for a start?
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 17:57:36</strong>
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				hm.... how much time would you say is decent/necessary for minimal time?&nbsp; It's possible they may have a way of speeding up healing, but I dont want to stretch this too much into sci-fi
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 17:57:51</strong>
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				Sounds interesting. I wonder if we could add to the shock value by having Kanami willingly and almost joyously having sex with Raiga, though that might be too much, and if so, that's fine. :D just throwing in my own idea into the mix.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 18:00:52</strong>
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				Hmm, sci-fi is a good keyword. Given that they have advanced technology and given it's just a gene therapy, I'd say at least one week before the changes are fully permanent. It's a change on the genetical and molecular level after all...<br><br>If they've got a magic machine or something (nanobots or something akin to microbes maybe) then it could happen nearly instantaneous or within a few hours...<br><br>And yeah, I was thinking of the shock factor of the revelation there, wolfy, so that might be an idea I would pursue. However, some players have expressed a dislike for bestiality, so unless there is no one present who is opposed to it, I'd say no to it. (although that doesn't mean it can't happen before already&nbsp; ;) )
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 18:02:10</strong>
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				True. :P And ok..just tell me if you want to use the idea, so I know. xD
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 18:02:51</strong>
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				I would love to use it. Just as I said, in case people are opposed to it, we can't do it (which would be a shame).
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 18:03:45</strong>
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				atm, I plan on having barn/pasture, farm house, and lab for threads, and then having a back room in the lab for bestiality, and having a second barn thread for it too, but thats just a rough idea atm, though if we get some more profiles up soon I might put them up sometime today, which i hope we do, still might put it up and start with the few we have, cause...well.. I am just as eager to start it too lol =)
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 18:06:08</strong>
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				Sounds good, Dusk. ^_^ I can't wait for this to start up. *Eyes Kanami lustfully* xD I am wondering if She'll get impregnated over the course of the RP?
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 18:07:16</strong>
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				edited the character sheet slightly to add a pets thing for farmers/workers, so they&nbsp; can list their pets
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 18:09:15</strong>
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				Cha, who knows Wolfy? Anywho, I'm off now for a few hours, so yeah... don't start without me XD
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 18:10:04</strong>
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				xD Ok.<br><br>So Dusk, Is Amy going to take Kanami and Raiga as her pets? *winks*
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 18:12:37</strong>
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				by the looks of it, but I cannot guarantee that both will get equal time, or that Amy for sure will use Raiga herself, though she will use him on others.&nbsp; I think I might limit it to 2 pets max per farmer, so they dont get overcrowded with pets and can manage to devote time to each pet without completely neglecting others
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 18:15:19</strong>
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				Sounds good to me. ^_^ He's happy being with Amy..gets alot of satisfaction by relieving her experiment's sexual urges and things, ya know? ^_^
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 18:21:37</strong>
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				I'm sure as a herding animal, Raiga will have some time with both pets and livestock as well.&nbsp; ;)
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 18:22:39</strong>
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				of course. xD He's got lots of stamina. *winks*
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>mayalee</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 18:28:25</strong>
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				Might I request a character to be associated with? Since my character is a kind of willing visitor at the start and I think I would need a contact, not to mention someone to change me.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 18:32:40</strong>
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				well all the modifications will be handled by Amy and her assistants, if anyone wants to make an assistant lol, otherwise they will prolly be NPCs.&nbsp; But I am sure we could work something out, for you to meet with someone. Atm it is just the 3 owners
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 18:35:43</strong>
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				DMJ, I can be with you when the car breaks down.&nbsp; I'm making a female athlete/body builder.&nbsp; She would be a good cow unless whitedusk/any of the owners, have better ideas (somehow making her a farmhand or something)
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>mayalee</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 18:38:35</strong>
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				Well, I have this idea that she is going to get there thinking its an organic farm or something similar, and then, wam!
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 19:10:26</strong>
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				What are you into Mayalee? I might scrap my second pet idea if we match in likes. I am not much for beastiality, so if thats what your looking for then sorry.<br><br><br>Hey Dusk, I can easily NPC some farmers if the need arises. I could play them until they come to a point with beastiality, and then you or Doomsday could then snag control for the animal sex. <br><br>I just noticed, are my pictures not showing up on my characters? I have four pics linked and I only see 1... It was working yesterday. XD
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 19:13:26</strong>
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				they are not.&nbsp; I was thinking it was only me though lol
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 19:17:23</strong>
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				Dang it... I will see about fixing them up or something. Here's to hoping... -grumbles are X D making happy face instead of what it should be...-
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 19:20:48</strong>
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				Okay can people see them now? I can at least. If that fails then I will just leave generic links to the pictures. <br><br>Oh Doomsday, I noticed you thought about ditching your co-owner, keep him. I like the concept. 
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 19:29:14</strong>
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				I do not know about others, but I still cannot see them
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 19:31:37</strong>
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				I didn't see them.&nbsp; I got one pic of a woman and a pic of a dagger.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 19:35:50</strong>
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				-sighs and grumbles- Okay well links it is then! I know those work, or else I wouldn't see the pics either way. <br><br>I have modified the pics into links. I hope you guys can see them. 
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>mayalee</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 19:42:41</strong>
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				My likes in this particular scenario is forced transformation, extreme humiliation, lots of forced sex of course, breeding and generally being experimented on. <br><br>A major OFF is beast, so that we are clear on that.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 19:45:09</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				And I hath returned... hmm, spaghettia alio e oglio... yummy...
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 19:46:17</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				still cannot see pics, even with links.&nbsp; I think it is something up with the site hosting the pics, do you happen to have them saved to your comp?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 20:02:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hmm, I am confused Mayalee. You want transformation but do not like beast? Seems contradictory to me. What kind of transformation do you like?<br><br><br>That makes no sense... how could I see the pics but yet no one else? Makes absolutely no sense... I guess the only other option is to photo bucket them... &gt;.&lt; Now I have to find them. lol. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 20:15:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Okie Dokie, I photo bucketed them... If those links do not work, then E just hates me and my links for some reason regarding these three pictures. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 20:22:25</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				As one who likes both, perhaps I can clarify.<br><br>Transformation does not need to completely change a person into an animal.&nbsp; Things like ears and tail are generally not enough to drive things into bestiality - even paws (although that may be different for different people.)<br><br>Bestiality involves a human or transformed human and an actual animal (like Wolfy's character). 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 20:28:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh I see. I constantly confuse Transformation... ugh. Heh. Okay, well I am not fully hot on all forms of Trans. I am okay with some varieties, perhaps light animal trans, but not heavy. <br><br>Oh and thewhitedusk, I forgot to clarify on my sheet, that Deserae is not yet tamed, Danica has only just begun the taming process. I wanted to deal with that before hitting the pet area, or I could do it another way. Deserae is already tamed but I can do flash backs... actually I like that better. So yeah... flash backs it will be then. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>mayalee</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 20:29:56</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, the things that turns me on is simply being formed into something more pleasing, against my will, if that helps.<br><br>How about my other likes/dislikes?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 20:32:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well what is are you comfortable with as far as trans goes? <br><br>As for your other likes, forced sex is good, experimentation is good (but what type are you okay with?), and humiliation is good (what do you consider extreme?). 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>mayalee</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 20:41:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				You have something special in mind?<br><br>The things I have considered is breast enlargement/reduction, adding breasts, adding fur, adding a tail, adding ears, things like that, perhaps three or four.<br><br>I don't know, what turns me on with experimentation is the unknown, what the person using me will do to me.<br><br>I consider being forcibly being impregnated and then made to thank for that extreme humiliation.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 20:47:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				alright, well I am heading out for a bit, leaving laptop open, just heading down the street to get some food for the sports bar, shouldnt be gone too long
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 20:52:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well as for ideas on trans, I will have to get back on that. Its not something I think on often. Now, however, my character is essentially a little crazy, just a little, so some of her ideas might be off kilter. Maybe, maybe not.<br><br>With experimentation are you comfortable with blood? I can only see that as one of the inevitable outcomes.<br><br>Well seeing as most of the males are going to be animals, who will impregnate you? I had an idea for a Minotaur (already talked to thewhitedusk about it), but you do not like beast. <br><br>On another note, I will be sticking out in this group of people as I am a tad more conservative on many things. I will attempt to mix in so no worries. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 22:16:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I thought I had posted, but I guess I had not.&nbsp; I am back lol
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>18-10-2009, 23:35:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just my two cents:<br><br>Despite the obvious creative eagerness to get started, maybe we should wait another day or two at most to give other people the time to still jump aboard. That would give them some time to still fit themselves into the greater scheme.<br><br>Also, it would give us a little time to specifically search for farmers and people we would need in the roles we have here.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 00:10:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I am fine with taking some more time. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 00:11:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I am too. o3o *Snuggles with Kanami* :D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 00:29:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Character profile is up!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 00:31:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				alright, gonna put it up in the char request thread too, the farm has onnly been open a year.&nbsp; No more that are already animals unless discussed with me via PM please.&nbsp; Trying to have it so that it's just truly becoming whatit was meant to be, the few that are already animals were experiments before starting on actually turning it into a human based farm
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 00:40:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That works for me, Deserae is still being broken. I will get up my minotaur character soon, as we already talked about him via PM. =P<br><br>Oh, me and Mayalee will be teaming up, sound good?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 00:41:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*barks and herds everyone* xD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 00:46:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				-Danica threatens dog with her wicked dagger twirling it menacingly while contemplating a very bad, bad, thought for the doggie.- 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 00:51:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*whimpers and hides from Danica*<br><br>(Also..o3o Just a little fact..you take my character image, and shrink the dog down a bit..and you have my dog. :D...She's an Alaskan Spitz. (Or whatever the breed is now called)..I think pure-breed, too..we found her one day on the road and brought her home. :D )
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 00:53:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah it is a beautiful dog. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 00:56:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*Runs away from Danica to go herd other livestock*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 00:58:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I suggested the Maremma pic to Wolfy :D<br><br>It's a strictly sheep-herding dog; you spoil its natural instinct to herd sheep if you treat it like a family dog. A shame because it's a beautiful dog.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 01:03:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well..I think Raiga is going to be doing a bit more than herding, if you catch my drift. *winks*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 01:04:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Tara:&nbsp; &nbsp;:o
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 01:05:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2354068#msg2354068">Quote from: Doomsday Jesus on 19-10-2009, 00:58:30</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I suggested the Maremma pic to Wolfy :D<br><br>It's a strictly sheep-herding dog; you spoil its natural instinct to herd sheep if you treat it like a family dog. A shame because it's a beautiful dog.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Of course, if you do it right, it'll keep the kids in line.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 01:05:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*sniffs Tara's butt, planning to keep her in line.*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 01:35:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I am here and I have modified my char profile so that Molly was a very early abduction and experimentation case by Amy and Alves a few months back. I suggest that their associates were operating far and wide and tracked this girl down in Ireland because she had an absolutely insatiable sexual appetite and they wondered how that would survive/resurface after conversion.<br><br>I noticed, Shihong, that you've said your char, Musco, came to the farm four years ago, which places him well before the experiment was started. Perhaps again just call that 'a few months?'<br><br>If we want more workers I can produce a domme female, she'll be fully human and normal except for a penis which Amy will have grafted/grown onto/added to her at the woman's request. Or, am alternative is maybe I play Amy and Dusk you play Alves? I'd play Alves myself but don't want to play a male. I never have done and really don't think I could or would enjoy it.<br><br>Here's what we have so far:<br><br>CHARACTERS<br><br>Amy; female/herm farm worker/co-owner.<br>Alves; male farm worker/co-owner.<br>Danica; female farm worker/co-owner.<br>Goran; male farm worker.<br>Rio; female/herm farm worker.<br><br>Sally; female already transformed into pig.<br>Molly; female already transformed into cow.<br>Musco; male already part-transformed into cat; pet of Rio.<br>Deserae; female already abducted; transformation to cat just about to begin? Pet of Danica.<br>Raiga; dog; pet of Amy.<br><br>Oni; human female abductee; to be transformed to horse or goat or cat or dog.<br>Kanami; human female abductee; to be transformed into dog.<br>Holly: human female abductee; to be transformed into cat.<br>Aoi; human female abductee; to be transformed into cat or horse.<br><br>Elizabeth; human female spy; to be abducted and transformed into cow.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 01:38:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Alves will be fully played, by DDJ, at least I believe so.&nbsp; That was the plan at least.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 01:44:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*Raiga runs around the topic, looking for more females to 'herd'*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 01:53:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm cool to play Alves, seeing as how I created him. Though I would prefer to only play 1 character, I am more than comfortable playing both Holly and Alves, especially considering how much he is needed for this game.<br><br>Though we do need a hella lot more male characters, particularly farmers, and if one of those players would like to take the reins of Alves, I'm fine with that as well.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 02:08:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Edited history, thanks Haibane.<br><br>Beyond that, does anyone have any suggestions/interest in where Musco might fit into the developing group dynamic?&nbsp; I'm playing him as a sort of escapee from some other facility or locale, now something of a stray that enjoys stalking around the farm.&nbsp; I've listed what I'm looking for out of the roleplay, so if anyone has suggestions I am all ears.&nbsp; Message me here or in PM if it's with personal ideas.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 02:11:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Musco is the catboy, yes?...<br><br>if so...<br><br>*Raiga barks and Musco! :D* xD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 02:16:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Haha *wags finger at Wolfy*<br><br>Yeah, I'm not sure yet on the sci-fi or the time of the game. Is it in fact contemporary and Amy and Alves have invented new surgical techniques? Or drugs? Or nanotechnology? If so I was thinking this farm is the only place it has yet happened so I assume Musco was a boy experimented on here...? <br><br>Not sure if the game concept works quite so well if animal conversions are well known or done elsewhere.<br><br>Forgive me if I'm way slow in picking up what people are planning... and sorry if I'm messing up people's game ideas, I don't mean to!<br><br>EDIT: Hum, I've decided, I think I would like to play a dominant female who also has a penis. She'd be a farm worker. I see a cat boy who needs training up! If you think such a woman would fit in Dusk, give me the nod and I'll create a character.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 02:20:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				well the original idea I thought was, Amy had the smarts, Alves had the street skils/able to procure people, and Danica had the money.&nbsp; Not saying the other two werent smart, but that Amy was the one behind the experimentations and such, and knew how they worked, possibly teaching the other two.&nbsp; I could be way off, and this could be something we discuss
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 02:20:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I am still working on my character but mine will be a female who will be turned into a cow.&nbsp; I'll probaly be one of the students who arrive with Doomsday Jesus.&nbsp; Right now her name is Lita.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 02:32:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well I could create a male farmer. That would put me at 4 characters, but I can handle it no problem. If the need for the males continue, I could do that. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 02:40:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ah!&nbsp; I had originally thought that the setting was more of a futuristic one, and that genetics technology was becoming a big deal as the processes were refined.&nbsp; Then there would be extremely well-kept secrets like The Farm, where illegal experimentation takes place for the sake of profit or pleasure.&nbsp; I didn't really spot too much discussion thereabouts.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 02:48:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2354372#msg2354372">Quote from: Transgirlenstein on 19-10-2009, 02:20:47</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I am still working on my character but mine will be a female who will be turned into a cow.&nbsp; I'll probaly be one of the students who arrive with Doomsday Jesus.&nbsp; Right now her name is Lita.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Sounds good.<br><br>Concerning the farm and the owners: I was thinking along the lines of drugs, via injections or pills. I'm not so crazy about surgical procedures for the body transformations. Alves has little to no scientific know-how; he just has the money to throw around and the perverted fantasies he'd like to play out with his farm.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 02:55:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2354423#msg2354423">Quote from: Xanatos on 19-10-2009, 02:32:22</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Well I could create a male farmer. That would put me at 4 characters, but I can handle it no problem. If the need for the males continue, I could do that.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Well, sure, if you want... but I'm only playing 1 character so far. And I think I'd prefer to play two before you get lumbered with 4! Maybe we could wait to see if any more people want to play males first?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 02:57:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, Raiga is able to impregnate any animal thanks to special pills that he takes before the session starts. :P otherwise he can't impregnate anything but dogs.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 03:04:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				But he's a dog and we have some players who don't wish to RP with animals, hence the need for more males I think. Plus Raiga can't RP opposite every female, technically it would not work.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 03:05:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				True. o3o
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 03:06:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*hugs*<br><br>Cows like dogs though, especially virile boy dogs...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 03:06:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well if you wish to take the male character, I am fine. I would not be hindered by 4 characters, though. I am able to play many. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 03:07:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*winks to Hai* Well..Raiga does like sexy cow girls.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 03:16:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				well I think most&nbsp; of the regular animals(cept Raiga) will just be NPC'd, unless someone else wants to make an animal too, but yeah, caus there will prolly be all sorts, being on a farm
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 03:21:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*smiles* Looking through the profiles, is it just me, or do most RP's not mind bestiality? o-o..I dunno if I'm just noticing that more or something...I know some have said they don't want it, but I see more for it than against, I think.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 04:21:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Curious, do those that are going to be changed wanting to be renamed by their soon to be owners and such?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 04:23:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Currently, most of the characters are interested in it.&nbsp; Since this is a player off rather than a character off for most people, I counted three characters (Danica, Deserae, and Aoi) that will definitely not be involved in it.&nbsp; Goran, Alves, and Amy didn't have anything specifically listed (Amy and Alves might very well be more detached as owners.)<br><br>Now, as I understand it, there could easily be interaction of a non-bestiality nature between <em>any</em> pair of characters, with the exception of Raiga (by definition!).<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2354897#msg2354897">Quote from: thewhitedusk on 19-10-2009, 04:21:13</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Curious, do those that are going to be changed wanting to be renamed by their soon to be owners and such?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I don't mind being renamed.&nbsp; I'm not particularly attached to the name Tara, but it is interesting enough for me to keep unless another one is chosen.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 04:27:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*thinks of a diabolical plan to rename Kanami Cuddles*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 07:10:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, I don't really mind having my characters being renamed. In fact, I named my second character (the to-be cowgirl) with that in mind, so her nicknames are pretty much obvious for what she's going to become. Hell, maybe her name is what inspires Amy to make her into a cow?<br><br>I think the ideas we have collected here so far are pretty good, and yes, we do need more male characters. Maybe I change my plan from having a male worker to have another male specimen added to the farm? Dunno, will think about it if I'm bored out of my skull during the math-classes&nbsp; :D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kate</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 07:17:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				could be a cult - <br><br>as in the farmer has found strange ritual scrolls burried nearby - or has befriended one that is versed in the occult.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 07:35:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				thewhitedusk wants to keep this fantasy/sci-fi free. Meaning ritual scrolls and the like would not work for him. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 07:43:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I could see it being a sex cult, though, minus the ritual aspect.&nbsp; More of a 'cult of personality' thing, where one or more of the owners has convinced him/herself that this is a path towards bettering the human race (or some other nonsense) and has brought together others who either share that belief or just want the sex.<br><br>I'm perfectly content to let logic take a miss on a lot of this, though - it's too easy to overthink things.<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 08:09:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well Danica for one has no twisted delusions of bettering humanity or any cultic delusions, she is purely out to please herself, the one and only. She isn't above helping out the farm, but in the end it all benefits her dark desires. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 08:19:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a231/hellmen21/BlackCat.jpg)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 11:12:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think we need to decide (or Dusk needs to decide) pretty soon <em>how</em> the transformations are done. In my character sheet I made them ordinary surgery techniques. If this is set in the contemporary world without sci-fi elements then nanotechnology is out. If magic of one sort or another is out then we are down to basic modern surgery, implants, micro-nerve-surgery, and LOTS of drugs. That being so it is going to be difficult to transform anyone gradually since each piece of alterative work (ears, tail, vocal cords) will require surgery and anaesthetic and to prevent everyone just sitting in recovery rooms wrapped in bandages for the whole game we'd need to simply skip the month or so of healing required, thus I think the victims should be found (DDJs carload of holidaymakers that breaks down is a good device), abducted, drugged unconscious and experimented on all in one hit, then kept drugged and fed via IVs for about a month until they are healed and re-awaken.<br><br>We can play the abduction scenes then do a big timeskip. The game then restarts with them all trying to adjust to their new situation.<br><br>Unless someone can see an alternative premise or method of effecting the changes I can't see how else we can achieve this in a real-world contemporary setting. If we skip forwards maybe just 10 years into the future we can introduce plausible sci-fi techniques to the surgery and drugs, possibly nanotechnology that can cut down the timeskip phase to perhaps one day. That device would then allow further changes as the players want them.<br><br>Oh and yeah, having the farm full of ordinary animals is fine - cows, bulls, sheep, dogs, horses, cats... As I see it Raiga is the only one of them being played by a player, the others will be NPC'd when we need them and they perform ordinary farm animal functions most of the time plus help Amy in her work (source of limbs, organs and body parts, dissection, etc). Am I warm?<br><br>Molly is going to need to be looked after by numerous bulls and stallions BTW... ;) And of course men.<br><br>EDIT: I just modified Molly's bio to include bestiality in the wants section and impregnation/pregnancy in the offs.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 11:19:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*Winks to Hai* Raiga will make sure she stays Satisfied too. :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 11:23:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Haha, LOL. Hey are you <em>always</em> online? ;P<br><br>Oh yes, one other question - are there any players here with male characters who would be interested in receiving anal sex? I'm still keen on making up a female farm worker who will have a penis (added by Amy's surgery) and I've always wanted to do a scene as a female herm playing the top.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 11:25:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Lawl..*winks to Hai* I am the internet itself. :P 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 11:56:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Musco is very much the sort to bottom in just about any situation, so I think he could suit your needs just fine Haibane.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 11:58:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Excellent. Maybe he could be my farm worker's pet? I shall get to work fleshing out a character.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 12:11:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				As for the idea of keeping them drugged and fed via IVs for the duration of the healing process, it could work. However, that would take a bit of time and my idea with Wolfy to have Kanami broken in first and then presented as an example to the horrified others would not really work then as they would either have to stay on the farm for a whole month (while seeing nothing of Kanami, which would be rather unsettling) or they'd have to get their surgery done at the same time, which would also eliminate that possibility.<br><br>An idea I have read however in a fanfic with a similar theme was a bio-chamber that is filled with bio fluids (I looked it up, that's how it is described) which then alter the appearance. So, in a basic setting, they would take the outer cells of the body and then reform and add to it, to create the desired outcome. For deeper changes, there could still be surgery or syringes...<br><br>However, that only takes care of the physical changes. As for the mental ones, I had something in mind like a headset with a built-in monitor that is showing the subject quick flashings of images, words, to imprint those thoughts into ones mind can help the breaking part of the procedure. Think Clockwork Orange, if you will.<br><br>Anything else such as imprinting on a master/mistress can then be done manually...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 12:16:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yep, good ideas. I'm open to anything pretty much although cultism/magic is my least favourite choice. I think its up to Dusk to decide how much or how little sci-fi he brings in, but I agree that a short term process (hours rather than weeks) is preferable for a variety of reasons, not least that we can add once change, then another later, etc.<br><br>Lets assume my Molly had ordinary contemporary surgery as she was one of Amy's test pieces. The methods can easily have moved on since then.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 12:57:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yup... you could also say that the founders weren't too happy with the method they used. Maybe there was too much a risk involved, like, let's say, out of 100 people they abducted, only Molly turned out to be like they wanted her to be? SO they continued the farm as usual and worked on the procedure until it was 'perfected' or at least brought to a much higher chance of success.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 14:33:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*wakes up with a yawn, overlooking the OOC*&nbsp; All great ideas.&nbsp; Hm... the changes do not all have to be done at once.&nbsp; Maybe Kanami hasnt completely changed, and is still somewhat trying to resist Amy when she shows her off?&nbsp; Then again, if she is similar to Godric's Kanami... she broke fast lol.&nbsp; But yeah.&nbsp; The original ideas was to introduce the changes as they went along, first breaking them down in mind and reducing them to nothing more then an animal while adding a change here or there in the process, but that would probly be too slow.&nbsp; Now, lets put it to a vote in the end.&nbsp; We have surgery(possibly with a way to speed up healing), nanotech, bio chambers, and possible different drugs that alter the body(which could be combined with surgery).&nbsp; Does anyone know how to set up a pole?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 14:41:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				A poll would need a separate thread. You could just ask everyone to list their main preference and their second choice, and score 2 points for the first and 1 for the second, then add up the points.<br><br>Choices to vote on:<br><br>* surgery with a way to speed up healing<br>* nanotechnology<br>* bio chambers<br>* drugs that alter the body, combined with surgery<br><br>I'm happy to do the book keeping.<br><br>Also, Rio is posted up in the characters thread. I think I will enjoy playing her :D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 15:18:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Made some modifications to Musco's character sheet.&nbsp; I think he could most certainly stand to be a bit more social with other individuals at the farm.&nbsp; Even if he has to be...forcefully persuaded.<br><br>I think the bio chamber idea would work the best, as it allows for flexibility with the actual treatment process.&nbsp; It could easily be mixed with the drug and nanotech ideas, and even the surgical procedures (the biochemical soup could aid in the healing progress and would also keep the body from rejecting new implants).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 16:20:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				If we're keeping voting to this thread, I'll cast my vote on drugs and light surgery. The only thing I don't prefer is straight surgery.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 16:27:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I was sort of picturing a 'Pleasure Island' scenario (if any of you remember Pinocchio), where depravity is 'rewarded' by the opportunity for further change.&nbsp; Of course, I'm quite content to have my character drowse off/pass out after an incident and wake up with alterations.&nbsp; The amount of time passed between can be malleable.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 16:36:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm in favor of the bio-chambers or nanotechnology, just to accomplish the main stuff, like tails or something. More subtle changes could be added later with surgery, but for now, I prefer quick and spotless.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 16:40:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				When I think 'body mods' and 'sugery' I can't help but think of bone saws and bandages X_X
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 16:52:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				LOL, I'm not sure anything is getting sawn... but think of cosmetic surgery or boob implants. Its nothing too major but does require a healing period, and it's this healing period that looks to be causing the problems. There wouldn't be problems if players hadn't already decided how one set of character interactions will go (looks around accusingly but with a sneaky raised eyebrow) otherwise a months recuperation time-skipped would fix the issue and we wouldn't be having this discussion.<br><br>As to the vote I'd prefer surgery and drugs - in fact I never envisaged any surgery without drugs.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 16:54:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm no scientist but I thought it would be interesting if the drugs had some effect on the genetic makeup of our victims, or at least forced the body to create hormones that would naturally grow these mods.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 16:58:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2356365#msg2356365">Quote from: Doomsday Jesus on 19-10-2009, 16:54:31</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'm no scientist but I thought it would be interesting if the drugs had some effect on the genetic makeup of our victims, or at least forced the body to create hormones that would naturally grow these mods.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>What he said, unless drugs that 'turn on' unused parts of the genome would be too sci-fi.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 16:58:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yep, it could include all kinds of hormones, DNA, growth stimulants and/or suppressants, all kinds of things (has no idea what the real world limitations are, is just jumbling in ideas here hoping they sorta work). Drugs would be speed-healants too. I just thought that plus some surgery would be the best option since its the least fantastical/sci-fi-ey and there seemed to be a preference to not go there.<br><br>So my vote is drugs/surgery #1 and bio-chambers in #2 place.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 16:59:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sheesh, alright, then I could also think it would work out of Kanami was just mentally broken in the first night and not physically changed. Would work as well, right?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 17:01:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Definitely! A girl coming out to meet everyone the next day with the behaviours of a dog would be truly spooky and mind-bending to witness I should think... although if I were to experience that I'd simply think 'hypnotism'.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 17:02:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm still definitely all for the mind-fuck and dehumanization aspect of this game :-)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 17:03:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh definitely. I think we're all agreed on how it will go, we're just stuck on a minor technicality.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 17:04:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Some might be mentally broken before alterations, others might go the other way (is hoping for Tara to be changed gradually in both ways), so I think we'll all get a taste of the spooky mind-bending.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 17:17:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just curious - what forms of will-bending do people assume will be used? I've never RP'd such a circumstance, hence I created a character who was already broken (I prefer those char types anyway).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 17:21:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, quick flashing images (a la Clockwork Orange) or hypnotism coupled with suggestions, maybe drugs could work?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 17:23:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I was thinking something more forceful, but really I'm open to anything. Still dipping my toes into the genre :-)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 17:27:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				What, you think like conditioning with whipping or something? <br><br>"What are you?" <br>"A human?" <br>*whip* <br>"A dog, a dog!" <br>"Good boy..."
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 17:28:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I would like to leave the specifics up to the farmers/masters, but in a nutshell sure :-)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 17:55:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Pavlovian works for me although in my case it might be...<br><br>"What are you?" <br>"A human?" <br>*whip* <br>"Uh! Still human!"<br>*whip, whip*<br>"Ow! Oh yes! Mmm... still human here pal. More!"<br><br>etc...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 18:35:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm thinking a little Stockholm, a little bit of the 'oh look, you liked that!' method, and referring to the victim as 'my little ____' (whatever they're being turned into) might work as well.&nbsp; (More Skinner than Pavlov, if I'm remembering right.)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 18:59:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				hi guys!&nbsp; just got back online.&nbsp; i did have some different ideas for the breaking and such.&nbsp; One of the ideas I have used in the past is similar to what Chuu mentioned, but it required 24 hours.. though it wasnt soo much breaking as it was training.&nbsp; Though with this type of group it can be shortened.&nbsp; What it was was basically tying them down and making them watch obedience tapes, while at the same time using a cassete player with headphones and making them listen to even more obedience tapes... not sure if that would necessarily work, but I love how we are discussing all this.&nbsp; And it is possible to do some changes to Kanami the first night
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 19:04:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Okay, the method on how to break them aside, allow me to give a short recap of how this thing will start out (thewhitedusk can feel very free to pick it apart later):<br><br>The farm has existed for roughly a year now. The only inhabitants beside the animals and Raiga (Wolfy) are Mr. Arroyo (DDD), the owner, Danica Day (DarkXanatos, DX) the co-founder of the project and Amy (thewhitedusk), the vetenarian. Farmhands at the time include Goran (Dokuro) and Rio (Haibane).<br><br>Among with them live Musco (Shihong), Molly (Haibane), Deserae (DX) and Sally (twd) as former experiment subjects, some already broken in completely in body and mind, others in a state somewhere in between, but they remain rather hidden until later on in the game.<br><br>There had been a few problems with the procedure however, as Mr. Arroya was not satisfied with the speed and effectivity rate of the transformation process. So he had ordered Amy to develop newer, better methods and nearly a year had passed until she had come up with a system that should presumably work just fine. Looking for a guinea pig to try it out, they are now expecting their first guest to become a hybrid just like Molly and Sally.<br><br>They are expecting Kanami Risuke, a young girl who they had invited to become a trainee to become a vet. However, on her way to the farm, Kanami encounters a small group of other people that had planned to go to spring break. Telling them of the farm where she is supposed to go, the whole group tags along and they arrive at the farm soon...<br><br>The group (as of now, feel free to correct) consists of: <br>- Holly Warwick (DDD)<br>- (open for x players)<br>And Kanami (Chuukun), who has led them to farm.<br><br>NOTE: Tara (Oni) and Aoi (mayalee) are both females who had been sent to the farm at some point... so they are already there for some time BEFORE the others come in. So maybe we should start with them making their first experiences? ALthough that could make it hard for the others to join in.<br><br>Solutions could be that they were effectively deluded and genuinely have as much of a clue of the whole story behind the farm as the group that arrives. Or they have already been operated on and are still recuperating. OR they arrive just in time with the others...<br><br><br>So far, is this acceptable as a comprehensive introduction?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 19:14:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hm... I am thinking possibly coming in at the same time, but with a different owner.&nbsp; Like Amy could be dealing with the people arriving with kanami, since Kanami came to work under her, and Alves dealing with the other two girls possibly, or maybe Danica takes the other two, while Alves deals with the ones arriving with kanami, setting them up with a place to sleep for the night, etc, while Amy works with Kanami.&nbsp; We can figure that out,b ut the rest looks good
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 19:42:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Alright, taking it in stride who takes care of who when they arrive, I think we are pretty much ready to start, right? Maybe one or two more people to tag along with Doomsdays character Holly, but then we can start it off.<br><br>The nature of the owner of the farm makes it rather easy to fit other, newer characters in rather easily (abduction, maybe siblings or other relatives looking for the missing people, people who are sent there or go there willingly, ignorant to the true nature of the farm or not)...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 20:00:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				This all sounds good though for the sake of making it believable I think we need to arrange it so that:<br><br>1) The Farm has been around a while, say a year, more if you think that's necessary, quietly abducting people (the abducting is Danica's field of operations it seems) and experimenting. Molly and Sally are the only successful results of these experiments. Other failed transformations were disposed of (basically cut up for spare parts, etc). Elizabeth Livingston is investigating these disappearances and the trail she's following is getting warm. She however won't appear just yet.<br><br>Staff are Alves, Amy, Danica (all three are co-owners it seems from the character sheets), Goran, Rio and I think we need a few NPC farmhands.<br>Also Raiga the dog (belongs to Amy) plus NPC animals.<br><br>2) Amy has talked with Alves and Danica and a recent breakthrough (whatever technology the GM decides to use) now allows much more reliable (rapid?) transforming work. So now The Farm is actively seeking several new abductees. Danica was put to work on this and she and The Farm's associates found Deserae, Tara and Kanami. All were recent arrivals and are just about to enter processing.<br><br>3) Simultaneously with these three being abducted two friends travelling by car had the misfortune to break down nearby and came to The Farm to ask for help. These are Holly and Aoi.<br><br>I'm not too confident that Aoi's backstory of being sent to The Farm by her (unsuspecting) parents makes sense since that implies The Farm is known about. I think for obvious reasons The Farm should definitely <em>not</em> be known about at all outside of its front gate. I think therefore Aoi might arrive with Holly?<br><br>Similarly Kanami's family knows about The Farm. Another loophole in security. Perhaps we can get Kanami here by other means such as abduction.<br><br>I'm also a bit in the dark about Musco. Surely The Farm is the only place in the world such diabolical crimes are being committed? For there to be somewhere else these practices are being undertaken is a big co-incidence and for Musco to leave there and stumble seemingly by chance on The Farm is stretching things somewhat. My suggestion is that Musco arrives as a young human man with Holly and Aoi.<br><br>This gets all of us in the game pretty much from the start.<br><br>EDIT: More thoughts - why do the earlier experiments remain hidden until later in the game? If you want to keep their presence hidden from the new abductees for a while that makes sense but I see no reason why they can't enter play at once in areas away from the new arrivals.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 20:06:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I do not think Kanami's parents know about the farm.&nbsp; And Kanami is not abducted.&nbsp; Her parents think it is nothing more then a farm where she is researching animal medicine, etc.&nbsp; Kanami was hired and such to work there, not knowing what is going to happen to her.&nbsp; I think I got that right, right Chuu?&nbsp; Feel free to correct me if I am wrong
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 20:07:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hmm, true, I haven't considered the fact that if Kanami sent a letter of application, then the farm must be known. Well, maybe just let me put it this way that she was invited to a clinic in a nearby town and has been working there with Amy for say... a week and then Amy says "Come on, we're training on the real deal for a while, we go to this farm I know..."... and the rest is history...<br><br>And yes, Kanami was not abducted. She comes to the place willingly. Of course she'd try to leave, but by then it's too late.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 20:09:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				When I was writing my backstory, I included an 'officer' that pulls Tara over and takes her to the Farm as a 'work-release' sort of deal.&nbsp; After reading someone's suggestion that there might be an investigation, (even though it was basically discarded a few posts later), I altered it in my own mind that Tara was brought in by someone <em>claiming</em> to be an officer.<br><br>I'm willing to volunteer this 'officer' as actually being an employee of the Farm, and might even flesh him out a bit more as a full male character (since we need them), although he's likely to be the type to look like he's giving the abductees a 'good deal' in his officer persona, and a mild-mannered (but intensely loyal) employee when seen around the farm.<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 20:12:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yes, there is a small subplot (i.e. how to bring her into the farm) for my character of Elizabeth, a CIA-agent. Who is pretty much on vacation indefinitely and can report in at any time, but at the very least, she has to take three months vacation. Bored out of her skull, she has taken a few files of missing people with her from work and decided to investigate in her free time. Those files and clues lead her to... THE FARM! *oh snap, what a twist, totally didn't call that!*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 20:13:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I thought it was known to those coming to work as just being a regular farm, but if we want to keep it completely unknown... that could work too lol.&nbsp; Alright, now I just need to work out the threads.&nbsp; So far we have Farmhouse, Barn, Pasture, medical lab(for regular) and pens/stables, back room, pasture 2 for bestiality, if people are alright with that.&nbsp; Any suggestions to improve on that, or other places for threads?&nbsp; And also, do we want a reg just Down on the Farm for an opening thread with everyone arriving, and then split everyone up to where they are gonna be?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 20:15:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well... wouldn't it be awfully convenient if we had our own sub-forum for that, huh? ^^
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 20:16:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				so for right now, just 2 threads, plus the OOC and CHar one?&nbsp; Down on the Farm, and Down on the farm Animal Fun?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 20:17:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think the Farmhouse could serve as the 'main thread' for where everyone arrives, and if it turns out we need more locations than those mentioned, we have the slots available.&nbsp; Once we hit 1000 posts total among the threads, then we get the sub-forum.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 20:18:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sounds good to me!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 20:19:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				we are already well on our way, have over 150 in the OOC alone lol
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 20:24:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				alright, question.&nbsp; Those not wanting bestiality, until we get the Subforum, do you mind if there is bestiality in the same thread, as long as you are not involved, or still have a seperate one for bestiality?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 20:29:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think it would only be polite if we kept bestiality in a separate thread.&nbsp; Title it '[Down on the Farm] Back Pasture' or '[DotF] Back Pasture' and we'd be all set for finding it.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 20:37:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sheesh I keep missing things :P<br><br>Anyways..I can come in with Doomsday and whoever else.&nbsp; Who is all in the car that breaks down?<br><br>We have..<br>1.) Holly <br>2.) Lita (I'm putting her sheet up tonight)<br>3.) ?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 20:38:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I was thinking about making a male character... as a matter of fact, I'm gonna write his profile up right now! Hold that space free for me ^^
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 20:49:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I only suggested Kanami being abducted because the alternative of her parents knowing about a place to send her was too big a security loophole. But sure, we can have it so that Amy works part of her time consulting for a nearby clinic that she uses to "meet suitable clients" (aka victims) and Kanami is one of these, lured to the farm on the promise of work.<br><br>What about Musco? His pre-existing transformation happened where? How? Why? Why did he come here? Lots of loopholes there. And why would a cat wear armour? Forgive me for worrying over this a lot, Shihong and I know the image is a great one for inspiration but the armour is a bit weird.<br><br>As for threads I would suggest:<br><br>FARMHOUSE (where arrivals enter the game, also humans room here and we can have human sexual relations in the rooms)<br>LAB (where Amy will do most of her work)<br>STABLES (where the transformed and real animals live) Yeah, I know we have multiple animal species but we can assume a group of buildings to include stables, cowshed, dog kennels and such.<br>PASTURE (outside areas for transformed and real animals)<br>TRAINING BARN (a place where the transformed animals undergo training or torture or whatever)<br>LOWER STABLES and LOWER PASTURE (for indoor and outdoor bestiality scenes as needed)<br><br>Don't worry about us needing to get our own big game board, any threads are moved direct to it when we hit 1000 posts by an admin once the move is requested. OOC threads are excluded from the 1000 post count, its game posts only BTW. Two of my games went big in the past so I'm aware of what the process is ;)<br><br>As to who trains whom I think we can leave this to in-game decisions can't we? Maybe Alves as boss can decide?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 20:54:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				well Alves is not the boss, all 3 of the co-owners are equal, just each offers something the others do not.&nbsp; And I know for sure I at least want a back room in the lab for where Amy uses animals to break people, but I am not sure if I want a seperate thread for it lol.&nbsp; I think I will just have to lead the girls out of the lab, or just make one large bestiality thread.&nbsp; And OOC doesnt?&nbsp; then again, I wouldnt be sure lol, when Godric's hit, our OOC was also the request thread
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 20:59:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2357022#msg2357022">Quote from: Oni on 19-10-2009, 20:09:17</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">When I was writing my backstory, I included an 'officer' that pulls Tara over and takes her to the Farm as a 'work-release' sort of deal.&nbsp; After reading someone's suggestion that there might be an investigation, (even though it was basically discarded a few posts later), I altered it in my own mind that Tara was brought in by someone <em>claiming</em> to be an officer.<br><br>I'm willing to volunteer this 'officer' as actually being an employee of the Farm, and might even flesh him out a bit more as a full male character (since we need them), although he's likely to be the type to look like he's giving the abductees a 'good deal' in his officer persona, and a mild-mannered (but intensely loyal) employee when seen around the farm.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div> I assumed the cop was a fake and in fact was a Farm employee. My assumption was he works as a field operative and goes about scouting for suitable victims. Its not necessary that that particular employee be on the farm, in fact logic says otherwise as his job keeps him away but another farmhand would work.<br><br>I said Alves as boss as I find it easier to agree to having one senior character in authority. Amy can easily be the senior. If you have a committee of three decisions take a while to get made, especially in a role-play (been there, done that)... And in the end in a 3-way partnership you will always get one top dog eventually, its human nature *grins*<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2357207#msg2357207">Quote from: thewhitedusk on 19-10-2009, 20:54:35</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">And I know for sure I at least want a back room in the lab for where Amy uses animals to break people, but I am not sure if I want a seperate thread for it.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div> Can this not take place in the main LAB thread? What purpose would a separate thread for a separate part of the lab serve? Think carefully about what the threads will be used <em>for</em> and do you <em>need</em> them, before you decide you want them ;)<br><br>If a location for bestial rape is needed as part of the training/breaking process I suggest you use one of the bestial threads for that - LOWER STABLES (see my suggested threads above) makes sense.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 21:06:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				ah... hm... well while Danica has the money.. and Alves has the men and such... Amy has the smarts and the know how to do the modifications and such.... hm... which is the most valuable?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 21:09:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				A rough profile is posted.&nbsp; Let me know what you think.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 21:12:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				do you have a description for her, or an image? just curious
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 21:19:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				she's pretty old to still attend a school with 24 years. If you wanna get in the car with Holly and my char, I suggest you de-age her a bit.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 21:19:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm at work so I can't get an image but I think I might have one on my home laptop I can use.<br><br>Is it college or high school they are in?&nbsp; Cause 24 is pretty good for college.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 21:22:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2357260#msg2357260">Quote from: thewhitedusk on 19-10-2009, 21:06:16</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">ah... hm... well while Danica has the money.. and Alves has the men and such... Amy has the smarts and the know how to do the modifications and such.... hm... which is the most valuable?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div> None. Which has the stronger personality and biggest ego? The way the scheme has been described so far Amy seems content to specialize in the back room with her, ahem, procedures, Danica seems to be out and about procuring victims while Alves does in fact seem to be the de facto boss, at the farm running things because no other function has been given him. But its all down to strength of personality I suppose ;)<br><br>But if you want to play it as an equal 3-way for now, feel free. It will be interesting to see if a boss naturally rises out of them as the game goes on.<br><br>EDIT: As to the ages thing, 24 is fine for a higher year of university if the student did a two-year vocational course first - or if the student is a post-grad. Or you could make it a lot simpler and just say the car is carrying friends on holiday - that way the ages become less relevant. Note that in school almost all close friends are in the same YEAR, so to be logical they'd all need to be the same age. Gets complicated.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 21:28:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2357323#msg2357323">Quote from: Transgirlenstein on 19-10-2009, 21:19:46</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Is it college or high school they are in?&nbsp; Cause 24 is pretty good for college.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Well, Holly's profile said she was a student at the Arizona State University, and I just rolled with that and my new character is also a student there.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 21:28:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'll knock her age down about 2 years.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 21:36:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2357190#msg2357190">Quote from: Haibane on 19-10-2009, 20:49:59</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"><br>What about Musco? His pre-existing transformation happened where? How? Why? Why did he come here? Lots of loopholes there. And why would a cat wear armour? Forgive me for worrying over this a lot, Shihong and I know the image is a great one for inspiration but the armour is a bit weird.<br><br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Originally I had thought that the setting was one in which there were multiple such facilities around the world, hidden or otherwise.&nbsp; Now this is all just a suggestion, and beyond Musco's backstory it would not have any huge implications for the rest of the plot.&nbsp; If we are to assume that the technology in this setting is a near-future one it may stand to reason that illegal tampering of genetics is just beginning to become a problem in the world.&nbsp; It's not a very high profile occurrence due to the necessary precautions being taken to maintain secrecy, as we see with the Farm and its security precautions.&nbsp; Perhaps Musco was caught in one of these other facilities and transmogrified over the course of several years, then conditioned to act as a sort of "exotic courtesan".&nbsp; The armor would have been simply decorative, like a fancy collar on a dog.<br><br>Perhaps this other facility eventually began experimenting on him again, and he fled to avoid becoming a throwaway test subject.&nbsp; Obviously the world has no place for a mutant with little to no understanding of human society, so it stands to reason that he would flee to other facilities until he found one that would accept his presence without attempting to stick him full of needles.&nbsp; <br><br>I know I'm taking some liberties by suggesting that the Farm not be the only lab of that nature, but I rather enjoy the idea of Musco having already been transformed and conditioned elsewhere.&nbsp; That way he could get at least somewhat comfortable (read: "affectionate") with the staff instead of getting constantly panicked about what they might try and do to him.&nbsp; Perhaps the Farm is simply the first state of the art facility that specializes in these unethical procedures?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 21:41:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well that all works quite nicely for me, perhaps Musco learned of the location of other mad scientists dabbling in these practices via some well hidden database these people maintain between themselves and came here directly, knowing its location in advance.<br><br>Lets see if Dusk is happy with that.<br><br>I've suggested Musco is Rio's pet but if you'd prefer to just be a farmcat without an owner then let me know and I'll alter Rio's char sheet. My main thought though is if he doesn't have an owner and doesn't seem to have the personality to interact much with others (the fact he shuns most physical contact is a bit worrying), what sort of game do you plan for him?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 21:45:39</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Hm... well that also makes it so if one place is discovered, they all could be...&nbsp; I am not saying yes or no to it, it could work.... what do the rest of you think?
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 21:48:02</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm in favor of the idea. It would lend the whole scenery some more integrity. It is a very stable background. And besides, no one is going to discover the farm anyways, so why worry about it? ^^
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 22:10:40</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Okay people... slow the hell down! I am asleep for only 8 hours and you all blow this OOC out of proportion! Man... &gt;.&lt; Man I feel quite lost...<br><br>From what I have read so far... Nano technology actually can do anything drugs, surgery, and the bio-thing can do, and do it much much better and more efficiently. So our best bet is Nano tech, oh and its fast, very fast... This would make for the ability to constantly change a victim back and forth from desired looks. <br><br>Danica will be taking Aoi, Mayalee's character, as Mayalee is not interested in beastiality like me. Otherwise Danica will not be messing with the others. She can still interact and perhaps hunt for victims. 
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 22:11:52</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Nanotech honeslty seems a bit too advance for what we are going for.&nbsp; I like the whole drugs, surgery and bio thing.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 22:18:18</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				I thought we weren't going to be having anyone investigate the farm? Why then did we have Dukoro change his character? I think you guys need to take a breather... this is about focusing in the farm, thewhitedusk had Dukoro change his character because it would cause problems and detract from the main point of this game. It only seems like your just turning this back around, but in a slightly different way...<br><br>Keep in mine Danica's father is also protecting the farm. He would cut any investigators off early on, so they wouldn't even get very far. 
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 22:21:43</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Also to make it clear, Danica is more of a loner when it comes to this. She will hunt down new victims, but otherwise she just provides money so Amy and Alves can of their thing.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 22:25:01</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				There are no huge, official investigations going on. Mostly because, yes, money talks and the father cuts them off. But what can he do about a bored agent who has nothing to do on her vacation and, without telling anybody, goes to investigate anyway?<br><br>Really, it's just a way to get her there in a slightly different and mostly dramatic fashion. It won't, I repeat, won't lead to the police storming the place or w/ever.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 22:28:05</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				which is what I assumed with your character Chuu... and then she doesnt even make it away to report anything.&nbsp; Where as with the other character, who was a spy.&nbsp; They were an employee who was reporting the different findings and information of the farm, not someone that was just using that to get their character to the farm and be captured.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 22:31:00</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				So this agent is going to be transformed? And yes Danica's father would stop her, but it wouldn't be just a slap on the hand, no she would end up six feet under... I did not specify what exactly the daddy would do, but I also did not feel it was necessary to get into detail about it. For one thing, a man like him who knew about the farm is obviously twisted, evil, and willing to do anything protect it, so I left it to the imagination what he would do to people who even caught a hint of the farm. <br><br>As for the idea of having more than one farm like this... I don't like that. It rather ruins the uniqueness of this idea. Sure we have tweaked it a bit, but sticking to just one farm makes it better. <br><br>Oh and very much prefer the people actually being co-owners and equal like thewhitedusk originally had in mind. Danica is very strong willed and very forceful, and she wouldn't let anyone but her daddy lord anything over her. 
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 22:34:12</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				she isnt going there on assignment.&nbsp; It's on her own free time, the agency doesnt even know anything about it. It's just something she decided to do while on vacation, if I understand the character right.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 22:36:36</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				I am under the impression she found out about this while on an investigation yes? If so, she would be stopped. If not, then it still doesn't matter. The sources of information she would have to tap even on her own, the father would be monitoring. Especially since the sources which would be available, would be few and far in between which means they would be easy to keep an eye on. 
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 22:41:28</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Let me outline my characters motivation in a nutshell for you, okay? Imagine me doing a squeaky voice too, to reinforce the image:<br><br>"Oh, what am I gonna do, I have to take a vacation. Oooh, files of missing people. Well, I'm gonna take those, no one is going to need them anyways and there are no duplicates. At least it's better than doing sudokus in my forced free time."<br>*some time passes*<br>"Hmm, all clues point to this farm. I should investigate. Hmm, I didn't see anything suspicious... maybe I should go and talk to those people. I'm an independent woman and carry a gun, there's no need to tell anybody where I am going. Surely nothing can go wrong!"<br><br>In short, my character carries a giant <strong>Idiot Ball</strong> (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IdiotBall) along with herself. The moment she steps onto the farm, no matter her intentions, the owners decide to transform her. The fact that they learn she was investigating them only makes it sweeter for them afterwards.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 22:49:34</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Well I know I seem like an ass here, and its not my intent, but I 100% believe your idea usurps the whole concept of Danica's father protecting the farm. The clues leading to the farm as so few and far in between, even investigating on her own would still reveal her to the father and have her caught rather quickly. This really just defeats the whole point of the father, and half of my idea for bringing Danica in.<br><br>Danica and her father offer a much more 'legitimate air' to the farm. Danica and her father bring their money and their protection, meaning Any can do her experiments with impunity, without fear of being found out. If anyone could so easily catch wind of a place which does not exist, I might add, then it truly makes my concept worthless.<br><br>Also I would like to point out, all records of the farm would have been wiped by Danica's father, likely right away, once he knew of it, as the most sure fire way to keep it secret. He then would have set up taps, bribed corrupt men/cops, used his own loyal men, w/e to keep an eye on any information which could not be easily erased. <br><br>I'm sorry for being so blunt, but as I have made clear, my idea is ruined by even just that simple idea. 
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 22:52:22</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Can not the same be said for Chuu's idea too?&nbsp; I am sure there is some middleground you two can find and agree on.&nbsp; This is all about compromise and working together to make things work
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 22:53:59</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2357414#msg2357414">Quote from: Haibane on 19-10-2009, 21:41:47</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I've suggested Musco is Rio's pet but if you'd prefer to just be a farmcat without an owner then let me know and I'll alter Rio's char sheet. My main thought though is if he doesn't have an owner and doesn't seem to have the personality to interact much with others (the fact he shuns most physical contact is a bit worrying), what sort of game do you plan for him?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>For now he'll be starting off as nobody's pet.&nbsp; He will be interacting with other characters, but he acts like the typical farm cat: aloof, friendly when it pleases him and skittish when it doesn't, and just a little bit enigmatic.&nbsp; He'll react a bit better if he's treated with some degree of respect, but he'll need to be..."wrangled" a bit until he learns to enjoy people's "company".&nbsp; 
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 22:56:01</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				First of, let me just point out that this is not entirely your idea. Sorry, but this is a collaborative effort building on the ground idea of thewhitedusk. <br><br>And it is okay if the farm isn't mentioned in official records. It doesn't have to be. Still, if people phone in and say "This and that person is missing" and the police doesn't find anything, I doubt he'd have anything against that. <br><br>And if a smart yet inexplicably stupid at times agent chick picks up those files, does some recherche as to where they were headed or where they were last seen, connects the dots and has a rough idea in which area she has to look, then asks locals (who probably have noticed that farm one way or the other, unless it was protected by an invisibility shield), she could get pointed to that farm sooner or later.<br><br>Bottom line: It is a plot device. It does not counter your idea in the slightest, can't we just co-exist?
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 23:02:40</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote from: thewhitedusk</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Can not the same be said for Chuu's idea too?</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Not sure what you meant by that...<br><br>The only compromise I can see, with both of us keeping our ideas, is that the father might inform Danica and Danica the others about this investigator, and if they agreed they liked her, the father would then guide her through subtle and controlled manipulation into the farm, where she was then captured.&nbsp; <br><br>Chuukun, I know this is collaborative, but your idea despite your belief does ruin mine; you don't seem to comprehend the level of protection that is capable, even from someone who is not part of the government. I am fully confident the father could do everything I described in my above post and even more. Your agent simply wouldn't even get close without being found out. Collaboration means we have to co-exist, and your idea went completely against mine. Now, with the above idea, I stated, we can both keep our ideas. Its the only way, unless someone else has something better. <br><br>
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 23:05:27</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Xanatos, wow, please chill. We are all entitled to throw ideas around here, this is an OOC discussion thread isn't it? We're discussing things, okay? None of them even comes close to damaging your ideas. The powerful father who *tries* to protect the farm can easily exist alongside agents curious about the disappearances.<br><br>I think your idea of a powerful father able to tap into and manipulate any information source a CIA or Fed agent could have access to, is the more unlikely of the two plots being suggested here. The all seeing all powerful god-like figure you've painted Danica's father to be is a little unrealistic. Why not allow an agent to investigate - rather stupidly of her own motivations while between cases - and just disappear? Anything she finds out is lost with her anyway and as Chuukun says, this is merely a device for introducing a character in a different way.<br><br>Or either way, scrap the misguided lone agent plot entirely and let Chuukun use another device but really, I think you need to dial down the omniscience of Danica's father several notches. Everyone is human. No-one's network is secure enough to cover all the bases. Everyone screws up from time to time. Right?<br><br>But you are all missing the point I raised and which concerns Shihong's character. If there is only one establishment like the farm, Shihong has to rewrite a big chunk of his character's bio. Lets think about that and think of a way he can retain his character without a major rewrite.<br><br>And anyway I thought this was Dusk's game? How about we let the GM decide stuff for a change, hm?
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 23:08:33</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Hmm, I think we can agree on that, although I would want to add a bit to it:<br><br>For one, I wanted to have her introduction post going something along the lines of "Blah blah, backstory, after she had watched the farm for nearly two weeks, she decided it was time to confront the owners with the facts..." and in she waltzes like the typical damsel in dumbness.<br><br>I'm totally fine with it if her presence and her spying on the farm is known to the owners. In fact, that makes it somewhat better even. And it would give them a reason to handle her with care or even some sadism too. And it would prepare them because she does carry a gun with her, after all. <br><br>As I explained, I do still not see how my idea went against yours. After all, I think I brought my character and her backstory in before you did yours. But I do not mind it all that much, I can very much agree to this compromise.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 23:11:58</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				I do say that the OOC has rocketed away during my absence.<br><br>I just say that Chuukun's idea isn't far fetched. Al Capone had a great hold on many things but there was some FBI agents that brought him down as well. So I can see how an agent on vacation can vanish on some strange things and by that not able to tell the superiors and get stuck on the farm.<br><br>Dark could have the father make a fake death thanks to a fake dental record and so on. That way they find a female burned corpse and dental record say the FBI agent is now dead and no one will come looking for her ever.<br><br>That's just my view as an solution if both want to co-exist. Yet I take no official standing in the argument.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 23:19:02</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Your assuming he is tapping into the FBI and CIA. There are more ways to manipulate information than going through the government. And no he is not all powerful. You simply are underestimating how easy it would be for him to do what I am saying. I am not stretching this beyond reality, and nor is it unlikely. The government is not the only people who can do this kind of thing, all it takes is money and the ability to get things done. Its not impossible nor is it unlikely. <br><br>Also the reason I am aggravated is because my concept has been ignored and had to much assumed of it in those past pages; its not just Danica, the father is the other half although I admit he likely will not show up during the RP, as he is meant to just be a atmospheric affect on the RP so to speak. Basically I felt a little like I was ignored in essence. <br><br>One thing I think some of you guys are missing though, is that thewhitedusk had an idea and many of the players came in and have just been assuming to much because they didn't pay attention. I am not naming names, and I really am not sure who has done it to be exact anyways, but I know its been happening because thewhitedusk has made mention of this to me and in the OOC and in the game thread. <br><br><br>Dukoro your point on Al Copone is sound, but keep in mind the level of security/information sources available today. Computers, paper, w/e. Its so easy to manipulate information these days. Look at what a single Hacker or someone who creates a virus can do just by themselves with little or no money, all they have is skill. Now think of this on a bigger scale, with a man who wields power through money in an age where information is much to easily controlled and manipulated and yeah, the father could easily do what I have mentioned. <br><br><br>I also want to point out that the farm is supposed to be darn near unknown by the outside world. So even without the fathers protection its just not likely people are going to be finding out thing about it. Its an enigma, an invisible place in the world, the whole intent behind this place is secrecy. And the way victims are kidnapped, it leaves no evidence pointing back to the farm. 
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 23:30:23</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Yes, but think of this: Dad gets told that the police has received calls regarding missing people. People that are on the farm. So he pulls a few strings and lets the police deliberately go slowly on those cases, maybe even have those files be put way down on the priority list. And so, they are pretty much forgotten about, by both him and thte police.<br><br>Who would check them anyway? If they are missing one day, that's assuming it's ever found out, there are two possibilities: They have been destroyed or somebody has taken them. And THEN could he find out about my second female character...<br><br>I'm willing to accept this compromise, however I just feel as if you have a very, very clear vision of how this should all work out and you try to get it done. And this is turning people off to you. This is a group after all, you saying "My idea gets denied" is not really endearing. And if you say "People are alienating thewhitedusks idea", you're just as guilty.<br><br>Anyways, again, I am still willing to compromise with you on the behalf of my character. I would very much like her to be one of the few that have a hunch of what is going on but that would be her downfall. That would be the angle I pretty much want to pursue with her.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 23:48:36</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Alright people, I need to step out for about 10-20m, I will be back shortly.&nbsp; Hopefully we can get thing settled and begin today.&nbsp; I am really looking forward&nbsp; to starting this game.&nbsp; Newcomers looking through the OOC dont be afraid to join in.&nbsp; Speak out in OOC if you have any questions or ideas, and we will do our best to help.&nbsp; If need be you can PM me.&nbsp; Be back soon ^^
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 23:50:25</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm about to join in with a new character, so I just had a question that came up; does anyone here object to my character having two penises? He's a guy character and I want him to have a dog cock as a secondary phallus, and an extra pair of testicles. Is anyone uncomfortable with that sort of alteration?
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 23:51:49</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				As there are some characters with multiple sets of breasts or sexual organs from both genders, I doubt that there would be many objections to your modifications.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>19-10-2009, 23:55:52</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2357830#msg2357830">Quote from: DarkXanatos on 19-10-2009, 23:19:02</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Also the reason I am aggravated is because my concept has been ignored and had to much assumed of it in those past pages; its not just Danica, the father is the other half although I admit he likely will not show up during the RP, as he is meant to just be a atmospheric affect on the RP so to speak. Basically I felt a little like I was ignored in essence.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div> This confuses me since Chuukun posted his Elizabeth Livingston character profile up on the 17th October and you posted Danica and her father's bios up on the 18th. Now, who is ignoring who?<br><br>In putting up your character bio after Chuukun (and unless the GM requires changes) you should read his character bio, accept it exists and write yours into a setting that works alongside that. You don't ever come into a game, create a character after someone else then start insisting his character doesn't work because it contradicts your later ideas. That in my book is plain rude.<br><br>So you need to accept that there is a Fed out there. She is investigating the Farm, by whatever means is not even remotely important (except that she found out something about some disappearing people - information got out that Danica's father, no matter how good you think he is, missed - as I said, shit happens, people make mistakes... everyone from Al Capone to a modern day hacker - like us on this thread) and now she will fall foul of someone. We can decide who that someone is and how it happens but the main thing is Elizabeth has been created so she gets into the farm in investigative mode and ends up as a cow.<br><br>I honestly do not see the big issue with this. So Danica's father isn't an all seeing all powerful god? He made a mistake. Something slipped through the net. Why is that a problem?<br><br>Xanatos, I think you will have to be flexible and accept this, since it was a plot idea put in place before you wrote your characters. Chuukun I think is being very reasonable in accepting Elizabeth's fate in whatever form that takes.<br><br>Now, with only one 'Farm' what are your suggestions, Xanatos, for helping Shihong with his character? Lets hope you don't insist he changes his game to suit you as well, hm?<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">many of the players came in and have just been assuming to much because they didn't pay attention.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div> Very true. *gently smiles*
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 00:08:57</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Haibane, we're finally getting to do a group RP together, babe! Nice to see you. I loved your cow-girl character. Maybe our characters can have a little rendezvous? Haha! I wonder if other characters can use that animal bodypaint stuff for their profiles...can you put up some links for sites that have those pics?
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				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 00:09:22</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				*Raiga runs around Haibane and sniffs her butt* xD<br>
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 00:19:11</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				I like your Trafalgar Law avatar. I wish I could figure out what the hell kind of DF he has and the exact extent of what he can do with it.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 00:19:49</strong>
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				I'm just going to say one more thing. This is actually more then a question.<br><br>So even if she was searching for those missing people she wouldn't find the farm no matter how much she searched around the missing people it just wouldn't lead anything. That's how secret it is. That's how you mean right? Everyone knows that if a girls goes missing the parents call the police. Yet even so the farm is impossible to find even if one searches for all the missing people. Am I getting how you use your character and her father Dark?<br><br>This is just me being a bit curious.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 00:21:20</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Awww *skritches Raiga behind the ears and gives him her panties to sniff*<br><br>Hey! Mathim! Squeeeee! Didn't even see you sneak in! How have you been darling! *hugs madly* Yes a group game with you will be quite different, lets hope it gets going soon and keeps going - group games that die all too soon are the bane of my life.<br><br>Molly is open to communal abuse and milking, the more fucking she gets and the harder it is the happier she will be - lucky cow! Also tit abuse is cool with her, long milking sessions with powerful pumps get her hot as hell.<br><br>I finally get to play a hermaphrodite character too, been waiting over a year to play one. We'll see if I can work out how to write one at all.<br><br>Oh, BTW, Chuukun, I love Mark Winston as a bull. I hope he gets transformed soon because as a footballer he looks like a complete dick! *giggles*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 00:24:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2358084#msg2358084">Quote from: Mathim on 20-10-2009, 00:19:11</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I like your Trafalgar Law avatar. I wish I could figure out what the hell kind of DF he has and the exact extent of what he can do with it.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>His Devil Fruit deals with Spacial Displacement. In effect, he can control anything within a certain space that he creates, seperating and reattaching things at will. He can also move himself or others, in whole, through out said space by moving all of their body parts at the same time and reconnecting them together. His power also lets him swap the places of anything within his given space.<br><br>o3o<br><br>And Hai..Raiga will make sure Molly gets lots of fucking. xD<br><br><br>*Raiga sniffs Hai's panties and barks, looking up at her cutely with her panties on his nose*<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 00:26:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2358093#msg2358093">Quote from: Haibane on 20-10-2009, 00:21:20</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Hey! Mathim! Squeeeee! Didn't even see you sneak in! How have you been darling! *hugs madly* Yes a group game with you will be quite different, lets hope it gets going soon and keeps going - group games that die all too soon are the bane of my life.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>That's typically why I never do them, but this one I just couldn't pass up. I mean, we seem to be going to great lengths to make sure it is as organized as possible before we start.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 00:47:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I am back!&nbsp; I hope we managed to work everything out while we were gone.&nbsp; &nbsp;It looks like some people went to sleep, so might not get this up, though we could try, and possibly do something with those already there while we wait for the others to wake up that are gonna be coming in.&nbsp; I am hoping, with over 200 replies in the OOC thread before we even start, that this turns into an amazing RP lol
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 00:48:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Its good to know I won't be the only cow.&nbsp; A lot of them and bulls :)&nbsp; Hurray for us Haibane!&nbsp; And hurray for herm characters.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 00:58:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Cows are undoubtedly the smexiest. Boobs and milk and prime for breeding, that's why they're my favorite. But I'd like to see some more exotic models too like jungle animals or even just things like squirrels or beavers that you can't find any decent porn of.<br><br>Are we still trying to figure out a way to get everyone to fall into the trap? I mean, we could say they invented a machine that scrambles things and makes cars and planes stop when they get too close so that whoever comes around has no choice but to walk up to the farm looking for a phone and that's when they get jumped by guard dogs or something.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 01:01:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, we do have a fake cop who pulls people over, then brings them in under a 'community service' option.&nbsp; <br><br>'No fine, no points, sounds like a pretty good deal, doesn't it?&nbsp; Fine young folks like you don't need that kind of trouble...'
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 01:06:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I would think setting tiger traps and having multiple fake cops with tranq guns would be effective. Maybe gas grenades or something too, or faked roadblocks with detours that lead to things that pop tires or make it so that cars get stuck some other way so whoever's out there is stranded. But I also think scrambling cell and radio reception is another must.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 01:22:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Made some final modifications to Musco's sheet.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 01:26:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Is the person who plays the co-owner scientist woman around? I'd like my character to be her assistant/apprentice if that's cool with her.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 01:29:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That would be me, lol
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 01:52:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*Raiga barks at Musco! ARF ARF! xD*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 03:02:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				These thoughts came to me just now in the players wanted thread. Might be worth discussing here. Here's a copy of my post:<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">We've a lot of female characters but not that many female players. That may be a stumbling block for some players. I usually do not do cross gender play but have decided to try a game with it in once again to see if I can get into things more without looking at the gender tag of the writer.<br><br>I personally would not like to see fantastical creatures and body mods - I tend to avoid such themes so keeping the transformations to earth animals would be my preference.<br><br>Its also my understanding that the animal transformations generally are cosmetic - ears, tails, horns, skin colouration, changes to vocal cords and higher brain functions - in effect these are still clearly humans just with messed up animal parts added on and not full conversions that involve breaking and sawing bones and reshaping skulls and limbs and joints and such.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div> What do others think of this?<br><br>Also as regards abducting victims Mathim, my feeling is The Farm employs snatch teams of one to well - a few - men who go around stalking and observing suitable people, loners, drifters and other suitable types and study them for a good time period only abducting those that won't be soon missed or who are suitable for other reasons. Molly, for example, I gave an abnormally high sex-drive to begin with which was an additional reason the 'Associates' abducted her. I assume in Tara's case the fake cop had a police computer in his fake cop car and was able to confirm she would not have a distraught family bleating about their missing daughter on prime time TV that very evening if she didn't come home - in other words although her abduction was a spontaneous one, it was still checked to fit the criteria.<br><br>I can't see The Farm abducting just anyone who happens by, the numbers of people who go missing in such a narrow locality would arouse suspicion fast. For example my girl Molly was abducted in Ireland, drugged and shipped over in a crate.<br><br>We've only got one vet and one assistant and about six victims to process already so The Farm's owners would need to keep the flow of fresh meat down to a manageable level... ;)<br><br>Musco, I would like to send you a PM and suggest a few things with regard to your character and Rio. It would need you to change a few things. Is that okay?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 03:41:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Gah, gotta catch up with all the OOC chat. On page 7 now. Concerning who the 'boss' is, Alves might be seen as a boss just because he's in general bossy, and very intimidating to boot. He has little to no scientific knowhow and he's only 1/2 of the funding for the Farm so he is forced to share control, though he is a bit of a control freak.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 03:43:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				guess we will see once things get going who comes out ontop lol
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 03:46:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sure, I'm sure that opens the door to a minor 'power struggle' feeling.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 03:49:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Feel free to send that PM along whenever you like Haibane.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 04:00:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2357801#msg2357801">Quote from: Dokuro on 19-10-2009, 23:11:58</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Dark could have the father make a fake death thanks to a fake dental record and so on. That way they find a female burned corpse and dental record say the FBI agent is now dead and no one will come looking for her ever.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Ack! This reminds me of something I've read recently... Or seen on TV... 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 04:10:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote from: Chukuun</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'm willing to accept this compromise, however I just feel as if you have a very, very clear vision of how this should all work out and you try to get it done. And this is turning people off to you. This is a group after all, you saying "My idea gets denied" is not really endearing. And if you say "People are alienating thewhitedusks idea", you're just as guilty.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Sorry, my idea does not alienate the original idea in the least bit. It fits it perfectly. My concept does not disturb the idea one bit, instead it fits right in. thewhitedusk would have said something, in fact about another character I will be making, he actually asked me to tone it down as it didn't fit his design. So I know he would have told me, if my Danica/daddy idea did not fit. <br><br>Exactly this is a group idea, and yet you guys have consistently said my idea is not plausible. One characters concept does not take priority over another, even if they came in first. Only the GM's set in stone concepts take priority. I actually did not know Chukunn's concept was posted first, but regardless since this is a team game, as you all have made clear, that automatically makes my idea just as important as his, meaning only a compromise could be done, which I did. <br><br>The reason I have continued with this, is because you all seem to think I am the one with a problem, when I am only defending my idea as anyone else would especially in a collaborative environment. So please take a step back and stop blaming me. I have a right to my idea and my opinion, I was accepted into this game with my idea, so we all need to deal with it and find a way to make it all work. <br><br>As I said, I have made the compromise with Chukuun so we will go with it, but never the less I stand firm with what I said the father can do. Look around you, even if I never provide solid evidence, you can all find cases even hints of what I have been saying. Look at modern day criminals and the good ones as that. Many have managed to keep the government at bay, big brother, and how have they done this? Information control, exactly what the father is doing. <br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 04:12:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2358093#msg2358093">Quote from: Haibane on 20-10-2009, 00:21:20</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Oh, BTW, Chuukun, I love Mark Winston as a bull. I hope he gets transformed soon because as a footballer he looks like a complete dick! *giggles*<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I was thinking the same thing; he would be a perfect companion for Holly.<br><br>And Xanatos; I understand where you're coming from but even with all his power and money there are always pores for things to slip through. I'm glad you two have come to a compromise because I enjoy playing with both of you two.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 04:23:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Also to Xanatos, you shouldn't upload naughties to Photobucket... They get taken down :-(
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 05:02:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				-laughs- Yeah I realized that after I did it. &gt;.&lt;&nbsp; Do you or anyone else know of another uploading site I could use? Preferably one which is safe from trojans or viruses? I know many places which allow porn or what not tend to have less security or are just targeted more often by hackers and such. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 05:11:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I've found imagefap to be reliable if you're fine navigating through ads.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 06:00:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2359319#msg2359319">Quote from: DarkXanatos on 20-10-2009, 05:02:48</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">-laughs- Yeah I realized that after I did it. &gt;.&lt;&nbsp; Do you or anyone else know of another uploading site I could use? Preferably one which is safe from trojans or viruses? I know many places which allow porn or what not tend to have less security or are just targeted more often by hackers and such.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Well..their targeted more by Hackers/Viruses because more people frequent them, for obvious reasons. xD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 06:08:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well yeah I know. Porn is just a huge draw, I.E. what you said, more people. Thus it means more targets to hit with virues and trojans. <br><br>Okay I will see what imagefap is like. Thanks. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 06:25:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ah hell, my anti-virus just prevented a Trojan from opening up while I tried to open a pic in imagefap. I guess my Deserae shall remain anonymous picture wise... -grumbles-
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 06:54:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Damn, now I'm curious. Try this http://swagster.com/ (http://swagster.com/)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 07:16:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Wow... the form of link they are using is ludicrous and its broken. I have tried separating different parts of the link and the damn thing still doesn't work...<br><br>http://swagster.com/ (http://swagster.com/) img.php?id=115134]http://swagster.com/img.php?id=115134[/url]][img]http://media.uselessjunk.com/swagster/09/thumb/e25c0c_Danica Body.png[ URL] <br><br>I guess I will just leave the links to the pics. I wanted to image them, but that failed. Really bizzare. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 07:37:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That is pretty junky but I think I got the picture now.<br><br>NM what a piece of crap website.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 07:41:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Have you looked at those links I left in my character sheet? I hope they work, despite the site being crap. Whoever designed those links needs a swift kick to the butt and a re-education lol. At least they work as a normal link, -shrugs- 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 11:47:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Er... why don't you upload them to Elliquiy's Wiki? It is exactly what it's designed for and its possibly the most secure porn repository on the web with easy access for us. You just need to make sure you only upload files that will be used in your games and title the file with a reasonable name and not a string of numbers then categorize it in the comments window with: [[Category:Characters]]<br><br>And this discussion will run and run Xan, but I simply disagree with you. You are the sole voice here saying Dianca's father's system is 100% capable, all the rest of us who've voiced an opinion think otherwise. I think in a collaborative effort the majority view should be more important than the view of an individual. After all, it is just a device to allow a player to get a character into the game, nothing more.<br><br>Now Shihong has quietly made a big change to his character without any fuss at all which is very reasonable of him. We should all be grateful to him for doing that.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 12:01:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Here's what we have now I think.<br><br>CHARACTERS<br><br>STAFF<br><br><strong>Amy Andrews</strong> (TheWhiteDusk); female/herm veterinarian/co-owner.<br><strong>Alves Arroyo</strong> (Doomsday Jesus); male farm co-owner.<br><strong>Danica Day</strong> (Xanatos); female farm co-owner/worker.<br><strong>Alexander Grayson</strong> (Mathim); male (double!); assistant to Andrews<br><strong>Goran Hammardahlen</strong> (Dokuro); male farm worker.<br><strong>Rio</strong> (Haibane); female/herm farm worker.<br><br>ANIMALS<br><br><strong>Raiga</strong> (Wolfy4226); dog; pet of Amy.<br><br>TRANSFORMED<br><br><strong>Sally</strong> (TheWhiteDusk); female already transformed into pig.<br><strong>Molly</strong> (Haibane); female already transformed into cow.<br><strong>Musco</strong> (Shihong); male already transformed into cat.<br><br>VICTIMS ALREADY ARRIVED<br><br><strong>Deserae</strong> (Xanatos); female already abducted; transformation to cat just about to begin? Pet of Danica.<br><br>VICTIMS TO ARRIVE AT GAME START<br><br>ALONE<br><br><strong>Tara</strong> (Oni); human female abductee; to be transformed to horse or goat or cat or dog. Brought to The Farm alone by an associate of the owners acting as a policeman.<br><br>ALONE<br><br><strong>Kanami Risuke</strong> (Chuukun); human female abductee; to be transformed into dog. Brought to The Farm by Andrews from a clinic in a nearby town on the promise of 'much more interesting work'.<br><br>TOGETHER IN BROKEN DOWN CAR<br><br><strong>Mark Winston</strong> (Chuukun); human male abductee; to be transformed into bull.<br><strong>Holly Warwick</strong> (Doomsday Jesus); human female abductee; to be transformed into cat.<br><strong>Aoi Zatakiro</strong> (Mayalee); human female abductee; to be transformed into cat or horse.<br><strong>Lita Jones</strong> (Transgirlenstein); human female abductee; to be transformed into cow.<br><br>LATER<br><br><strong>Elizabeth Livingston</strong> (Chuukun); human female spy; to be abducted and transformed into cow.<br><br>Have I got that right? Does that layout give us enough 'shape' to start us off? Any new players can be assumed to be in the group in the car I guess, or also found on the road by our friendly local cop... Any new players starting as staff could be assumed to be present but on a rest day until they activate.<br><br>Dusk, have you any idea what the farm looks like, any photos or plans? I do like to have images of places so if you want to have some pics and plans I can help you out there. PM me and we can discuss.<br><br>Also where is this place? Did someone hint it was in California? Or Southern Cal?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 12:09:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think we have agreed that Kanami has been working with Amy in a vet clinic in a nearby town and she is taken under the pretense of getting first hand experience on the farm there. On the way there, they may encounter the broken down car.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 12:15:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Edited! Its okay for Kanami to be invited in by Amy. I think that might happen say a day before the car load arrives? We could run the scenes concurrently though I think?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 16:34:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I is awakes!&nbsp; Alright, lets try to get this started today.&nbsp; I was&nbsp; thinking possibly somewhere more open, where there might be woods to hide the farm, a driveway/trail going through the woods to come out the other side and reveal the farm.&nbsp; Not sure if California....hmm..... where would be a good area?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 17:06:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I don't know why I said California, I just thought someone else had mentioned it. Its certainly hot there and parts in the south and in the hills are empty. We can easily irrigate the place to make it green and lush. But you can place it where you like, I just think south is good as its warm.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 17:10:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				well I can see south, just wasnt sure abotu Cali, as it seemed the type of place to have soo many people.&nbsp; Though it might work.&nbsp; Any suggestions?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 17:42:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				If the intention is to keep it within the states I can see Nevada or Idaho or Wyoming providing miles and miles of emptiness. Nice and hot too.<br><br>House plan suggestion.<br><br>(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk137/HaibaneR/FloorPlanEdit3.jpg)<br><br>Bedroom allocations are up for discussion though I personally see Alves as having the main one and Amy having the one that joins the lab is a no-brainer. I see this as a big stone built rambling single level house with a pitched roof. Haven't got a good outside picture yet but it has a hacienda feel to it.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 17:48:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				If we want trees, I'd go with Idaho or Wyoming over Nevada.&nbsp; Otherwise, the Plains states are sparse enough for a couple dozen acres to go unnoticed.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 18:16:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh yeah, I forgot, Nevada = desert.<br><br>Still, the location is pretty much irrelevant, I just thought it would be nice to have some sort of location. The layout of the farm is more important but I can scribble ideas down as we go. If Dusk is happy - and the rest of you are - with teh suggested thread list then Dusk can create them and off we go.<br><br>I'm told that in the Extreme section you should put [EX] at the front of the thread title, in case you didn't know. So: [EX] Down on the Farm [FARMHOUSE] and so on.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 18:25:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				We might have to abbreviate further - I'm not sure what the limits are for title length.&nbsp; Other than that, it looks good to me.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 19:58:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That floor plan looks nifty Hai. You have a great attention to detail :-)<br><br>I'm ready to start whenever everyone else is.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 20:03:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				If I may make a suggestion, I think the lab should be underground, hidden within the house proper. I just don't see farmhouses being that gigantic, and if anyone came by to inspect things, there would be a decent hiding place for their illegal doings.<br><br>But other than that, I loved the look of the house floor plans, Haibane.<br><br>As for the exterior, I am thinking we could have a customized stable/kennel, where all different animals could be penned in, where bigger ones could have more room in theirs, and so forth.<br><br>Oh, and if/when the females/males/whatever get pregnant, what happens to the babies, or are we even going to deal with that?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 21:31:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah, I borrowed an existing plan and the office and lab were converted from a 2-car garage. But that whole corner of the building is self contained, we could assume the external door is concealed as is the one in from the lounge and the small bedroom door - that closes the area off and if the building is against a hill or something it hides it.<br><br>Then again we're not going to be discovered so its not a *huge* deal.<br><br>I looked back at our vote on how the transformations got done and of the players who expressed a preference we had six votes for a biochamber, six for drugs and surgery and four votes for nanotechnology. So I guess we go with the biochamber with some work being done with drugs, etc.<br><br>I'm struggling to find anything that looks like the exterior of the house plan I scribbled down but these places have a nice feel to them:<br><br>http://www.sulekha.com/mstore/vamsee/albums/Tuscany/farmhouse.jpg (http://www.sulekha.com/mstore/vamsee/albums/Tuscany/farmhouse.jpg)<br><br>http://images.frontdoor.com/FDOOR/articles/Architecture-Images/Farmhouse.jpg (http://images.frontdoor.com/FDOOR/articles/Architecture-Images/Farmhouse.jpg)<br><br>http://www.stephendcrouch.com/Price%20farmhouse%202005.jpg (http://www.stephendcrouch.com/Price%20farmhouse%202005.jpg)<br><br>http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2559/3704445530_32397c718f.jpg (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2559/3704445530_32397c718f.jpg)<br><br>http://www.nvillas.com/ecomm/graphics/PR_2342_1_LG.jpg (http://www.nvillas.com/ecomm/graphics/PR_2342_1_LG.jpg)<br><br>The top one is at least stone and single story. The second one isn't anything like our plan but it has a really nice farmy feel to it. Third one is so-so but looks a bit suburban. Fifth picture is a nice setting and last picture another single storey stone house. I suppose the outside image is not that important however.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 21:40:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I like the very top one, as well as the picture with the stream. Heck, that picture alone is gorgeous.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 22:10:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I didn't get to vote yet and I vote for drugs and surgery. I don't even know what a biochamber is!<br><br>I was going to suggest, that thing Haibane did a few posts ago, where it listed who plays who and their names and everything, be put somewhere very easily found so that for anyone playing, they'll have an easily accessible reference so they'll know just how to interact. I don't think I'll be able to remember who everyone is just by names, but I doubt I'm the only one in that boat.<br><br>And since we're not going to be discovered or busted, I know it's not a big deal, I was merely suggesting for the sake of being all covert-like.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 22:17:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think Biochambers were used in Star Wars and such, where the characters just float in this miracle ooze that heals their bodies.<br><br>http://www.parklandhealthcenter.org/uploadedImages/BJC_HealthCare/Patients_and_Visitors/Our_Facilities/Parkland_Health_Center/What%27s_New/Hyperbaric%20chamber.jpg (http://www.parklandhealthcenter.org/uploadedImages/BJC_HealthCare/Patients_and_Visitors/Our_Facilities/Parkland_Health_Center/What%27s_New/Hyperbaric%20chamber.jpg)<br><br>Think that, filled with ooze.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 22:18:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yes, I liked that stream one too. It inspired this:<br><br>(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk137/HaibaneR/TheFarmSetting.jpg)<br><br>I hope the thread locations are readable in my hasty scrawl.<br><br>So lets go with:<br><br>(http://www.sulekha.com/mstore/vamsee/albums/Tuscany/farmhouse.jpg)<br><br>and<br><br>(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2559/3704445530_32397c718f.jpg)<br><br>That stone farm implies a rustic interior, open hearths and oil-fired range for cooking, stone floors with rugs maybe, Shaker interiors, gnarled old furniture. I suppose if people want to use pics to illustrate their individual rooms use something that looks cottagey and farmy, nothing too modern.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 22:21:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*blinks* Haibane, you're awesome.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 22:28:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				My sentimonies exactly. The layout and look are picture perfect. I don't have anything specific I'd do to the interior, only for the lab, depending on what everyone else wants in there.<br><br>And I think they were called 'Bacta Tanks' or something in that Star Wars thing you mentioned. If my vote counts at all, I still say drugs and surgery would be more practical.<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 22:33:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, hardly. A little obsessed maybe. Thing is, if it helps the players visualise where their characters are and aids the game then its useful. I could do an enlarged plan of the area of the house and stables and barn and such if the small map isn't clear enough.<br><br>Apart from the rustic area of the farmhouse I see the lab as being ultra clean and modern, all glass, polished chrome and white tiles, spookily modern in contrast to the rest of the place. Lots of computers and other curious devices as well, operating tables, you know, stuff.<br><br>Mathim, yes, your vote counts. I think we mostly decided that Sally, Molly and Musco were early experiments using mostly surgery and some drugs and these three were the only successes out of dozens of attempts. Which is why the process was improved. Perhaps the bio-chambers are the latest thing? I think the concern was that surgery and drugs takes too long to heal - players wanted about 12 to 24 hours to have the changes made so we could keep the game moving. In that respect its a toss-up between the bio-chambers and nanotechnology.<br><br>EDIT: And now I really want to start the game!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 22:40:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I was thinking of a combination approach - drugs to induce gradual changes, and one of the other methods to handle the more 'instant' changes.&nbsp; I'm not terribly particular about what the other method is, as part of the appeal in this for me is the inexorable descent into her sub-human status.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 22:41:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				What if the changes are done via surgery and drugs and the biochambers are used only for healing and recovery? I like the idea of changing them being very hands-on.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 22:45:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Alright peoples!&nbsp; I think we are doing good enough to start today.&nbsp; Hai, could you possibly do me a favor and set up an info thread?&nbsp; With the pictures, layout, etc etc, like the lists and stuff you have been making in the OOC
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 22:45:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm looking forward to starting as well. I'm about half and half drugs/surgery and biochambers. I'm sure there is some way to incorporate both, as Mathim and Oniya have suggested. Perhaps surgery/drugs for more cosmetic changes, and the bacta tanks for healing processes and more internal/genetic changes.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 22:47:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Those are both good points. The physical changes can be surgical, or more probably computer aided micro-surgery - I mean if the animal has a tail it needs to be connected to the nervous system and form an extension to the base of the spine so it can be wagged and have feeling. After surgery the victim goes into the biochamber to be healed quickly (a few hours).<br><br>But bolting ears and tails onto victims doesn't make them act like animals, it just pisses them off, so the other stages of transformation will need drugs, hypnosis, training (Pavlovian, etc), punishments, all that stuff of which the drugs are just part though they help a lot in dulling the higher brain functions and killing off the aggressive tendency making the victim more docile. Throw in hormonal treatments and pheromones and lots of sexual rewards for good behaviour and I think we're well on our way.<br><br>So there's the physical (drugs, surgery plus healing process) plus mental degradation/training in two distinct areas.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 22:49:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Right. I just want to know that it's my hands cutting into the base of the spine to attach tails and sewing on the ears to the sides of their heads. That part is why my character is a scientist and not just a worker. But hormone therapy and things like that can be administered intravenously while they're being held in suspended animation inside the tanks.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 22:52:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2361525#msg2361525">Quote from: thewhitedusk on 20-10-2009, 22:45:36</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Alright peoples!&nbsp; I think we are doing good enough to start today.&nbsp; Hai, could you possibly do me a favor and set up an info thread?&nbsp; With the pictures, layout, etc etc, like the lists and stuff you have been making in the OOC<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>I'm on it now. Give me about 20 minutes. If anyone who arrives online soon has changes they want incorporating we can discuss and I'm happy to tweak anything so we are all happy.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 22:52:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2361542#msg2361542">Quote from: Mathim on 20-10-2009, 22:49:49</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Right. I just want to know that it's my hands cutting into the base of the spine to attach tails and sewing on the ears to the sides of their heads. That part is why my character is a scientist and not just a worker. But hormone therapy and things like that can be administered intravenously while they're being held in suspended animation inside the tanks.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Sure. We have a couple of people who are anti-surgery though so please bear people's wishes in mind there.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 22:54:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Then we'll just say those are the people my character isn't working on. Divide the work up between the two doctors.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 22:58:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				So a bit off-topic, did anyone see Season 3 of Dexter? Alves is loosely based around the main baddie in that season.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 23:04:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Never seen that show.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 23:07:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				D=<br><br>We can't play together :-P<br><br>I've drawn some interesting parallels between Dexter and Death Note.<br><br>Both main characters are killers with no morals.<br><br>Both main characters have a 'code' that they kill by (Though Light pretty much screws the code after a while).<br><br>Both are very good at pretending to be normal and live normal if prosperous lives.<br><br>But Dexter kills because he has to kill; His foster father taught him to kill only the people who deserve it. He doesn't have any godlike mentality, he doesn't do it because it's the right thing to do. Light will kill anyone who gets in his way :-)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 23:18:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah, I really know a lot about Light Yagami and I respect him a lot more. Anyone could have just taken over the world or wiped out a particular ethnic group or something with a Death Note but he chose to take a moral high ground and people actually supported him for it. You can't really say that about a guy like Dexter, according to what I've heard. Besides, Light never would have lost his way if he hadn't been challenged.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>20-10-2009, 23:29:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				There was a phenomena that can be linked between them. Remember how Matsuda (that idiot) thought that maybe Kira was right in laying judgment down on criminals? During the 2nd season when Dexter's old kills were discovered and they were trying to figure out who killed them, a lot of people referred to him as the "Bay Harbor Butcher". Some people called him justice because after some investigation, it turned out that the bodies were all in prison at one point for murder, or at least tried for it.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 00:45:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50528.msg2361973#msg2361973 (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50528.msg2361973#msg2361973)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 00:59:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Um... I thought I played Amy...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 01:01:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				When the actual threads are created, it might be worth it to link them into the Game Info post.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 01:04:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2362010#msg2362010">Quote from: thewhitedusk on 21-10-2009, 00:59:05</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Um... I thought I played Amy...<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Haha. Oh yeah... fixed.<br><br>Other character pics would be a real help there, even just a face.<br><br>And Oni, good idea. I've just sent Dusk a PM asking him to include the map and one or more specific pictures that encapsulate the place the thread is meant for, but a link to the game info is a great idea.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 01:08:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				alright... now I got to try to get all this.&nbsp; It might take me a bit, comp is running real slow atm, but gonna try =)&nbsp; I should have the IC threads up hopefully within the next few hours, if not the next hour
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 01:08:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I actually meant that when the threads get set up, the Game Info post should be modified to link the locations (near the map images) to their respective threads. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 01:12:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2362043#msg2362043">Quote from: Oni on 21-10-2009, 01:08:29</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I actually meant that when the threads get set up, the Game Info post should be modified to link the locations (near the map images) to their respective threads.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Duh, yes, I can do that. *is wearing her thicko hat tonight*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 01:15:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*tackles Haibane and snuggles with her*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 01:18:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2362055#msg2362055">Quote from: Haibane on 21-10-2009, 01:12:46</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Duh, yes, I can do that. *is wearing her thicko hat tonight*<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>No worry.&nbsp; I range from intensely organized to incredibly cluttered.&nbsp; This just happened to hit my 'organized' button.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 01:21:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That game information thread, holy crap.<br>I'm amazed because I've seen "real" roleplays with worse.<br><br>Also Why do I suddenly feel that my location is tactical for body guarding in case something goes wrong? Big bad guy between what I would say be the mastermind and the goldmine. Well I am now truly looking for it.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 01:29:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				all I know is Alves is gonna share that bathroom XD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 01:48:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I want to see him stop me.<br><br>He goes in, Alves says something in the lines of: "I'm busy" "I'm in the middle of somehting!" "You know this is my room right?"<br>Göran goes in, makes in trademark yes sound and goes for a shower. Or he's not going to do that and just keep tot he smaller one. We all just have to wait and see.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 01:50:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well if Alves is on his own in the master suite that means the rest of us have to share the small one...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 01:51:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah I'm raised with two sisters and with 3 dudes and 3 girls...that ain't going to happen. Let just say I got a hunch!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 01:51:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, the Master Bathroom has two doors, apparently, so anyone in there will need to be careful to lock both doors if they want privacy.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 02:00:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				It is a strange house. The original plan had four bedrooms (I added 2) but only 2 bathrooms. Not an ideal design. I think we can assume at least washbasins in the other rooms.<br><br>I see only one door to the master bathroom. The way I read it the small door between the sauna and steam room is a linen cupboard and the door below that closes off the corridor to the lab.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 02:10:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think a new floor plan is in order. Looking at it, its all whacked. The lab is to close to one room, not enough bathrooms to share properly, and bedroom sizes are a bit small. It makes more sense for the three co-owners to have the biggest rooms. <br><br>The lab shouldn't even be in the main house, unless its a basement or completely seperate attachment. A multi-level place would be much better. <br><br>Also, those rooms have no room for pets. Danica will have three, Deserae, Jordan, and Aoi (Mayalee's character). 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 02:15:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				the room the lab is too close to happens to actually be Amy's room, which has a door connecting it to the lab.&nbsp; And maybe not all pets sleep in the master's bedroom?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 02:27:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Musco will likely be sleeping where ever he pleases, so no worries about setting aside space for him!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 02:29:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well what if Danica wants her pets to sleep in the same room as her?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 02:31:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Feel free to do us a plan then Xanatos - go right ahead. No problem.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 02:37:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Raiga will either sleep with Amy, Kanami, or *Growls* Musco..xD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 02:42:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				He'll have to catch him first!&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 02:47:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I will draw a plan. Could a list be compiled of what the house needs in it? Since the farm will grow and the staff with it, the house will have been expanded in the past and will likely be expanded again, so this house should be quite large, multiple levels. <br><br>-<strong>Bathrooms 3-4</strong> (since there is six staff)<br>-<strong>6 bedrooms</strong>, roughly of equal size, with co-owners having a little bigger, with each staffs room if desired having extra room for pets. <br>-<strong>Living Room</strong> (for staff congregation should they wish it)<br>-<strong>Kitchen</strong><br>-<strong>Utility Room</strong> (should be large for many reasons)<br>-<strong>Amy's lab</strong> (which will be basement, it can have outside and inside access.) <span class="bbc_u">thewhitedusk were you wanting another room off of this one for some kind of beast play or something?</span><br><br>Okay anything else I am missing? Please add to this so I can know what to draw up. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 02:51:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh don't worry..Raiga will catch him. *winks*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 04:14:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Goran be ready to hose the fighting pets down, unless the fight pleases his interests.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 04:19:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I don't see how the floor plan is a big deal. It's a nice visual but we're not breaking international law by pretending there's another bathroom. And pets sleep on the floor, obviously.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 04:20:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2362571#msg2362571">Quote from: Darkly Dreaming Doomsday on 21-10-2009, 04:19:43</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I don't see how the floor plan is a big deal. It's a nice visual but we're not breaking international law by pretending there's another bathroom. And pets sleep on the floor, obviously.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Not some pets. *winks*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 04:35:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Then on the other hand this is a farm and not a mansion and I think that fewer bathrooms will lead to funnier, more interactive roleplay with each other.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 05:48:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well do keep in mind, no matter how crazy our characters are, we still were people who grew up used to normal amenities. Fighting or if no real antagonism then, at least frustration or aggravation would not lend any good to the characters getting a long.<br><br>If no one is worried about the floor plan, then might we just sorta assume each staff did something with their own room? Alves and Danica both bring in the dow, so its not like private contractors could not have been brought in before the farm became operational or if it was operational, the pets/animals could just have been hidden; or the construction company could be loyal to Alves or Danica. <br><br>I am still willing to draw up a floor plan, but if worrying over the floor plan is no big deal, then I am not worried. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 07:04:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Finally added a picture to Tara's profile.&nbsp; Yes, it's the senator's daughter from SGU.&nbsp; Yes, I'm a geek.&nbsp; <br><br>(But you can't deny she's a looker.)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 13:25:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I imagine the farm was pre-existing and Alves and the gang had it enlarged to suit their purposes before any of the animals were created, so outside contractors is not an issue. I think Amy probably had the lab equipment all installed herself so no suspicions etc. Yes we know the plan isn't perfect but there's no scale on it so I see no difficulty in us just assuming the rooms are big enough for whatever purpose we need, lets say each bedroom has at least space for a double bed, wardrobe, couch and coffee table, side desk, TV, a rug for pets to sleep on, whatever.<br><br>And each room could have a small walk-in en-suite of toilet, washbasin and shower with the main bathroom having a bigger (communal?) bath and the master suite its own facilities.<br><br>Its really not something we should be wasting effort worrying about and we did chat yesterday about the shortcomings of the plan but it was one I had from another game and just quickly spent an hour converting in the extra bedrooms/lab area.<br><br>I think we're waiting on Dusk to create the game threads now then we can begin. Xanatos didn't you want to have another character? If so I need to put him in the Info post.<br><br>Oh and Xanatos, just so you're aware of why I'm doing all this work, Chuukun and I are now joint GMs with Dusk, he asked us to help out. I'm not doing all this work just because I enjoy it but because I'm able to and it helps the game get started.<br><br>EDIT: Thanks, Oni. Now added Tara's image to the Info post.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 13:45:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				You know, I'd totally hump that Game-Info-thread. Superb work there, Haibane.<br><br>And yeah, I suppose we really are just now waiting for thewhitedusk to give us the introductory post. Then we can have the cars passengers post and then we'll slowly home in on the farm and then we split up in the different threads. Sounds like a plan, no? Well, let's see how long it takes for chaos to erupt XD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 14:07:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2363498#msg2363498">Quote from: Chuukun on 21-10-2009, 13:45:24</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">You know, I'd totally hump that Game-Info-thread. Superb work there, Haibane.<br><br>And yeah, I suppose we really are just now waiting for thewhitedusk to give us the introductory post. Then we can have the cars passengers post and then we'll slowly home in on the farm and then we split up in the different threads. Sounds like a plan, no? Well, let's see how long it takes for chaos to erupt XD<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Thanks. You might get more satisfaction humping Molly though.<br><br>Building plan fixed, now every bedroom has its own shower/washbasin and WC. I think that's about all I can do with that plan, anything more will need a complete rewrite.<br><br>I've talked with Dusk and he's going to set up several threads so everyone can start posting in whatever location they want their char(s) to begin play. I'm not sure we want the car-load turning up immediately - weren't we going to do something with Deserae and Kanami first? I'm not sure though, we could kick the game off by assuming those two arrived earlier and Kanami is already there and then the car load turns up at the start.<br><br>We need to time Tara's arrival too - everyone appearing all at once would be a bit odd.<br><br>Maybe Xan wants to park Deserae aside for now and concentrate on training one of the new car-load arrivals?<br><br>Amy could have Kanami in the lab to begin with possibly? Maybe with Alex looking after Tara? Whatever.<br><br>Goran, Danica, Alves and Rio could meet the new arrivals.<br><br>Raiga is no doubt off around the farm getting up to mischief so he and Musco and Sally and Molly might start play in any of the pasture or stables threads.<br><br>All sorts of possibilities but I think the only thing we need to decide before we begin is what is the sequence of new arrivals and who is there to meet them? That would all take place in the Farmhouse thread which is designed to include the front driveway etc.<br><br>If people wanted privacy and outdoor fun we could create another thread called LAKE AND PARKLAND that pretty much covers everywhere else on the map up to the main road (I'm something of a fan of sex outdoors in the sunshine...)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 14:14:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, I'd like to have Kanami have at least a bit of interaction with the others, so the shock would hit them a lot harder. Also, I'd like to have Kanami at least get to know Raiga a bit beforehand, maybe make a few comments ("What a pretty dog.."), entirely innocent, of course. So, maybe she was around at the farm for a day at most without being exposed to the other experiments or she also arrives at that time.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 14:25:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				If the car-load needs to meet Kanami before her changes start being made then it looks like we'll need to play it all innocent with the car-load for about 24 hours and just put them up for the night somewhere. We can invent some guest cabins down by the lake for this. That way their chars arrive and get taken care of, Kanami meets them and Raiga then that night Kanami gets worked on and next morning the shit hits the fan when the car-load sees the changed Kanami and the workers overpower them. For the over-powering scene I'm thinking we might need to separate them (there's a lot of them) or have them in one room that we can pump something into via the air-con and knock them all out.<br><br>What of Tara and Deserae? Do I understand from you, Xanatos that Deserae has been here a while already?<br><br>EDIT: Just made a couple of small changes to the Info thread. I added a comment about other staff assuming we have some security and workers other than the characters. I also suggested there's other farm buildings on the site to prepare dairy, meat and vegetable crops, plus a helipad, vehicle garage and workshops. I'm assuming we have decent cattle, sheep and pig herds on the farm. Mostly irrelevant but just added to make the site more self-contained.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 14:58:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think it's fairly easy for this to go down. The security guards can be explained by saying "oh, there are a lot of wild animals around and people who steal our cattle, so we're just cautious." and by building up a bit of suspense, it would all be so much better in the end =D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 15:02:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*kicks her heels around the thread as all her games are up to date*<br><br>You guys seem to be mostly on the west side of the Atlantic I think? Is it just you and me in Europe Chuu?<br><br>*fires up the Elliquiy IRC to see if anyone's in there*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 15:06:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, there's Dokuro in Sweden, but other than that, doesn't seem like it... well, it can and will work out in some way.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 15:10:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Whereabouts are you? (approximately, no need for details)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 15:12:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Northern part of Germany. As it sorta spoils in my custom title =D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 15:18:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Aha. I tend not to notice those sorts of things! You don't write like a German, I mean your English is excellent. I thought Chuukun might be a Japanese reference as well.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 15:21:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah, it is a reference to my otaku-ness as well. I'm a nerd, you know? And as for my English, thank you very much. I also do not talk with a German accent, my English teacher (who insists he is English, not British!) has determined that I do have an American accent even and called me a smartass on several occasions. So yeah, I blame it on MTV&nbsp; ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 15:34:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Mm, I think MTV should be blamed for lots of things.<br><br>EDIT: Hm, I wonder if I should go set up all the threads? Will Dusk mind?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 15:40:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, we could... but I think it would be best if he makes the introduction, painting the scene you very kindly set up. Besides, the best way to start this off would maybe be Amy driving in a car with Kanami and on the way, they pick up the passengers of the broken down car... okay, maybe she'd need a small truck for that, but she's a vet anyway, they always have big cars ^^
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 15:43:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm Midwest America, but I've got a crazy sleep schedule.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 15:44:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hi Oni!<br><br>Well I wouldn't do any posts, just a title post basically.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 15:52:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hi Everybody!&nbsp; How are you all doing?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 15:56:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh, hey whitedusk. We're doing great, just decided that we're ready to begin and that you're the one to do it&nbsp; ;D<br><br>that reminds me, I gotta go out for a bit, will be back in an hour or so, but if I don't do this now, I'll surely be caught up in this, so later!&nbsp; ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 15:57:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hi Dusk. We're all eagerly waiting for some game threads to magically appear.<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 16:02:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I noticed you were wanting to make them? lol I would not have minded.&nbsp; How bout we split them that way we can make them faster.&nbsp; I'll take the lab, farmhouse, stables and lower stables, and if possible, could you make the others?&nbsp; If you dont want to I could do them all.&nbsp; And by the way Hai *hugs tightly* You are a lifesaver, and amazing, with all the help you have put into this =)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 16:10:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Its no problem, its a game with lots of potential after all.<br><br>I think one person should do them so its all the same, though I can if you want. Have you got all the links I gave you still?<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 16:12:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				yes I do have them&nbsp; :-)&nbsp; Working on making threads now
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 16:17:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				is anyone else experiencing trouble with the forum?&nbsp; I went to post the farm thread and all i started to get were errors, I actually had to close my browser, suprised my last post in here got through.&nbsp; It was weird.&nbsp; Gonna try again and hope it doesnt do it this time
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 16:19:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Its been okay for me here today.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 16:49:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				AND THEY ARE DONE!!!!!&nbsp; Hai could you possibly post links to all of them in the info thread?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 16:54:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yup<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:02:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				So do we have everybody we need on to start?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:05:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Threads linked.<br><br>I wasn't sure if Xanatos is still to bring in another character?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:08:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2363679#msg2363679">Quote from: Oni on 21-10-2009, 15:43:51</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'm Midwest America, but I've got a crazy sleep schedule.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>This, except for the last few days it's been less than crazy. Almost normal.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:09:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think he is, but I believe it will be coming in later
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:10:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				So how should I enter? Alves or Holly first?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:11:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				We should decide the first few events.<br><br>What's the deal with Kanami? Did she and Amy come across teh stranded car-load of holiday makers?<br><br>It looks like a scene between Amy, Kanami and the stranded car-load as they drive through the farm gates and up to the house is the best stating point. The owners and staff can then meet them.<br><br>Pet and animals already on the farm can amuse themselves in other threads away from the car-loads sight.<br><br>I'm still not clear on where Tara joins and if Deserae is here already and 'in processing'.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:12:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well I am thinking it starts off with Amy and Kanami driving down the road back from the local clinic when they see holly and her friendson the side fo the road with a busted down car
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:14:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That sounds like a good idea. Amy and Kanami should post first then, and our party van will congregate afterwords. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:17:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I edited my note while Dusk was posting. How about having the conversation as they drive into the farm, it should save time. A chat by the roadside might take several days real time so that would mean all the farm-based characters waiting.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:19:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				are all of the car victims on?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:21:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I agree. I think we should have Amy and Kanami in a car and within the first two posts or so, they come across the already broken-down car. Maybe something like this:<br><br>Post 1:<br>Amy: I'm going to take you to a farm to get some real experience!<br>Post 2: <br>Kanami: Oh, that's nice. Hey, isn't that car smoking?<br>Mark: Crap, can't fix the car. Oh, look, a car's coming by..."<br><br>maybe? And then, all the characters present can post in no specific order...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:23:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hmm, what Haibane suggested might save time. The 3-4 vacationers cram into Amy's car after being persuaded that she can call a mechanic and offer room and board for a day or two.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:23:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think Amy or Kanami should post first, so just go for it guys. Or a road-side victim... its not important.<br><br>I might end up doing an idle Molly post at this rate! :D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:24:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Got it! Working on it &gt;=D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:25:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				So, Tara will be arriving after the carload?&nbsp; I can get her to the farmhouse in one post (since I'll be using the 'cop' NPC to do it), so there won't be much disruption in any event.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:25:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				alright, one question before starting, Hummer, Truck, or SUV.&nbsp; Wanna make the trail to the farm kind of tricky, its there, butyu would need a 4WD vehicle to reach it, with about a 10m drive through the wooded trail
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:27:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Your choice darling, its your character! Amy can drive an armoured personnel carrier for all I care! *hugs*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:28:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2363935#msg2363935">Quote from: Oni on 21-10-2009, 17:25:14</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">So, Tara will be arriving after the carload?&nbsp; I can get her to the farmhouse in one post (since I'll be using the 'cop' NPC to do it), so there won't be much disruption in any event.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div> Yeah, having all this fresh meat all turn up on the same day is a bit contrived. Not sure what to do about that. I suppose you could bring Tara to the farm right away and someone will meet her.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:30:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hm... *ponders hovercraft*&nbsp; Whee!.......Hm...nah *falls to earth as hovercraft disappears*&nbsp; Ahh...&nbsp; sorry lol, in a weird mood today.&nbsp; I am thinking either truck or Hummer, cant decide XD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:31:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh!&nbsp; One more question.&nbsp; How many of you use some form of IM?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:32:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Not me. But I'm in the site IRC chat room most days.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:35:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, I'll just write 'car' in my post, so that leaves you enough room to work with, whitedusk. And you know me, we've used to chat on MSN, I suppose?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:36:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I put up on idle post in the Lower Pasture for the time being.&nbsp; ;D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:37:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				So wait, the info thread is up but the actual play hasn't begun yet? Just checking. I'll try to find a picture in the meantime for my character. It looks more organized that way.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:38:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I could jump into IRC if we all wanted to coordinate there, otherwise you have my YIM.<br><br>Also the answer to your car question: (http://www.autocult.com.au/img/gallery/full/TorqueOmata4720.jpg)<br><br>@Mathim: Character posts will be starting immediately :-)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:39:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				First Farmhouse post is up!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:52:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				second is as well
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:57:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think I'll wait until the carload arrives at the Farm proper.&nbsp; Maybe once they've been settled, the cop will arrive with Tara.<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:58:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				You could introduce Tara, and Alves will take care of her from there.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:58:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				As one poet and free-thinker once said... <br><br>"The plot thickens... I thicken too."
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 17:59:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Who's Amy Anderson? *grin*<br><br>Mathim, you can find all the game threads from the Info post as I've hot-linked them from there.<br><br>Basically Amy and Kanami are encountering the car-load of stranded holidaymakers on the way home and they'll all get to the house shortly. Tara is being brought there by the fake cop. Most of the staff need to be there I guess to handle the arrivals, other than that the existing pets and animals seem to be doing posts around teh farm in places away from where the fresh-meat will see them.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 18:02:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				It's awkward for me to roleplay two interacting characters so I'd rather have Danica and some of the workers there to greet the stranded vacationers, Kanami and Amy. I'm sure we can find something else to occupy Alves's time.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 18:05:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry, I got Anderson and Andrews mixed up lol
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 18:07:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				edited it to andrews
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 18:08:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Would Alves be at the Farmhouse, or in some other area?&nbsp; I'll bring Tara directly to him, and we can take it from there.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 18:11:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				How about the Training Area? &gt;:)<br><br>EDIT: I've posted as Holly in the farmhouse.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 18:15:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				If she's going to be convinced that this is 'community service', that would be a bit much.&nbsp; We can probably manage working this in at the Farmhouse, if we're careful.&nbsp; Maybe use a different font color to distinguish Alves/Tara's interaction from the others?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 18:18:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				If once you manage to get Tara in a vulnerable position, why not just tranq her and stuff her in the trunk and take her back to the farm? Or is that more trouble than stringing her along with a BS story?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 18:18:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I don't have issues with several scenes running concurrently in the same thread. You could label them with a location header as I've seen some games do.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 18:22:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				This isn't only an issue of where it happens, I'm also trying to figure out what will happen between Tara and Alves. I'm sure that as soon as she's on the property and in Alves's custody, he's going to drop the charade of being a benign farm owner.<br><br>Or he could 'go along with it' and introduce Tara to the farm, at first showing her all of the innocent things. Maybe then he could find Musco and give Tara a little shock &gt;:)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 18:28:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh, so we want to scare/traumatize our victims beforehand? Cool.<br><br>I was thinking it might be a good idea to have booby traps and such laid out in case there are runners/escapees.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 18:29:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Musco isn't easy to find, if he wanted to show off his work Molly and Sally are always around.<br><br>We have security in the grounds Mathim and a reasonably high fence.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 18:30:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I was sort of thinking of her seeing the innocent things first, and then getting a shock.&nbsp; It could be as simple as getting bent over in a barn by Alves, or as earth-shattering as getting partially sedated (and possibly given her first dose of TF drugs) and exposed to the full reality of the Farm.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 18:30:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I imagine there can be electro-fences (Not the tall industrial-grade kind, just those cheap barb-wire waist high things with a car battery attached to it :-) ) and of course there are armed guards.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 18:35:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think it would be sensible for Amy to contact the fake cop and get him to come look at the car and get the passengers ID. Or she could call base and have a conversation with Danica who would get her dad to run checks. She could then find out of they are suitable subjects to abduct? Just grabbing any car load of strangers and bringing them to the farm seems very risky, they could be undercover agents.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 18:41:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ah gee, thanks, we've just started and now you point out plot hole... great going, Haibane.<br><br>By the way, it's thanks to the improved procedure that they do not need to look out for suitable subjects, right? They would want to see if they can really convert anyone now, so that would explain it... besides, it could be Amys own decision to bring them in. Remember, she is not quite on the better side of sanity, so she could just think, the more the merrier, and off they go...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 18:45:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*giggles* Insane Amy....
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 18:46:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Chuu, is it my post or yours?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 18:49:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Should we wait for Lita and Aoi to post?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 18:50:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I don't quite know, thewhitedusk... for one, yeah, I maybe should react to the question and the car, but then again, the others haven't posted, that's why I was holding back.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 18:52:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I do not know if QTS and Maya are on
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 18:55:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				We don't have to throw in all the roleplaying in one day. We should wait for them, perhaps you should poke them in PM letting them know we're waiting.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 19:02:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				alright, so now is anyone interested in NPCing animals with me, or am I doing all the animals?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 19:06:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I would npc an animal or two, if the scene requires it, yeah.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 19:07:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I mean for like bestiality scenes, because they can't all be with just Raiga
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 19:51:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2364167#msg2364167">Quote from: Chuukun on 21-10-2009, 18:41:39</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Ah gee, thanks, we've just started and now you point out plot hole... great going, Haibane.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div> LOL, I mentioned it - oh, 3, 4 days ago? Everyone ignored me...<br><br>And when I said 'suitable' I didn't mean suitable vivisection material I meant suitable as in 'not a security risk', i.e. no senators daughters or sons of high ranking FBI officers and such. Even kids with psychotically over-protective parents who'll have Fox news reporter helicopters rushing all over the countryside by this time tomorrow.<br><br>In my experience it is best for a game (unless a certain character is *really* needed for a plot piece) for the players to just post as they wish, when they can. If we wait for X to post the game WILL slow to a tedious crawl. I've seen it a hundred times. If a large group is just travelling from A to B then those present should post and those not present should post when they can.<br><br>I know it can seem tough on or rude to those not online but the alternative is a game that will stagnate for everyone. When those characters are essential to a plotline those players need not worry, we'll wait for them then.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 19:58:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				It looks like the current scene may take a while so I'm going to do something with Rio, page her when she's needed back at the house... ;) 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 20:00:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm thinking of doing something with Sally while I wait, but I dont know if I want her interacting with staff or animals atm
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 20:04:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2364415#msg2364415">Quote from: Haibane on 21-10-2009, 19:51:06</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">And when I said 'suitable' I didn't mean suitable vivisection material I meant suitable as in 'not a security risk', i.e. no senators daughters or sons of high ranking FBI officers and such. Even kids with psychotically over-protective parents who'll have Fox news reporter helicopters rushing all over the countryside by this time tomorrow.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I'm planning on having Tara 'escaping' her restrictive parents, so she would have taken pains to cover her tracks (paying cash for things on her trip, that sort of thing).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 20:08:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hn, yeah, that's a good idea.<br><br>I wasn't suggesting a sex scene with Rio right now, just something to pass the time.<br><br>Oh yeah, while I remember I've been thinking I'd like to change Rio's appearance. That anime pic I used of Kagura from AzuDai... well I just love her. I like the expression and the pose and everything, she's exactly right for Rio. The busty blonde I've used isn't doing much for me. Would anyone mind if I changed? I'll find a body double to use as her torso as well I expect.<br><br>I may be interested in NPCing animals later but I've never done it and I'd need to think about it first, maybe watch some of the animal scenes you guys do.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 20:11:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I do not have a problem with you changing her to that
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 20:12:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				If female animals are needed, I know I could do that.&nbsp; I'm not sure how well I'd do a male animal.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 20:15:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm just lounging in the Lower Pasture for the time being if Musco is wanted for anything!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 20:16:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				On the lake thread, I do like that idea. Danica would love to set someone 'free' out on the property and hunt em down.<br><br>Deserae has been with Danica for awhile, she was Danica's first. <br><br>If your wanting Danica to train new arrivals, I am fine, just up until the transformations. So beating, down trodding, etc is fine. <br><br>And yes I am West Coast America. That explains the huge gap in postings. <br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote from: Chukuun</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">In my experience it is best for a game (unless a certain character is *really* needed for a plot piece) for the players to just post as they wish, when they can. If we wait for X to post the game WILL slow to a tedious crawl. I've seen it a hundred times. If a large group is just travelling from A to B then those present should post and those not present should post when they can.<br><br>I know it can seem tough on or rude to those not online but the alternative is a game that will stagnate for everyone. When those characters are essential to a plotline those players need not worry, we'll wait for them then.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I agree that we need to press on, however, keep in mind since its now apparent we have a major time gap for some players when they are on, we cannot do it to much. If some of us are posting to much leaving others behind it will only cause the others to become discouraged. Its not easy either way, but I think a level of patience would be better than just boldly pushing on.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 20:19:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Once we have people engaged in scenes, the time differences will become less of a problem.&nbsp; Bringing the characters back into the 'main' areas will just require agreeing on in what condition they'll leave the 'side scene'.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 20:26:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				COuld you guys umm..send me the links to the threads?..o-o.I seem to have lost the info thread. &gt;_&lt;
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 20:28:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2364548#msg2364548">Quote from: Wolfy4226 on 21-10-2009, 20:26:31</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">COuld you guys umm..send me the links to the threads?..o-o.I seem to have lost the info thread. &gt;_&lt;<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50528.0 (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50528.0)<br><br>Add it to your favorites!<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 20:28:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				You can also go to Extreme Small Groups, and all our threads start with [EX] Down on the Farm<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 20:39:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2364519#msg2364519">Quote from: DarkXanatos on 21-10-2009, 20:16:09</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">On the lake thread, I do like that idea. Danica would love to set someone 'free' out on the property and hunt em down.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div> Ooh, yes, hunting. That would be a lot of fun.<br><br>When someone has a need for it, we'll create that thread. LAKE &amp; PARKLAND.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 20:45:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*Sally squeals and nuzzle Rio happily*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 20:47:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hm..I think I'll start Raiga off in the pastures with Molly.<br><br>Also, I was thinking about creating another male character, maybe one already changed...would anyone be opposed to this? And for that matter, what animal should I use? o-o I thought about using a cat, but we already have Musco, so I was trying to think of a farm animal we didn't have...a goat, perhaps? xD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 20:52:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Also, do you guys think the animals and animals/people can converse, or would that be too far of a stretch?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 20:58:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm cool with you creating another character, the animal is up to you. Though I'm thinking if you and Haibane want to start playing together, you might want to move your interactions to the Lower Pasture.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 20:59:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				We're going to play innocently for now. xD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 21:03:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*Reads Rio's post, drools* I think Holly would be a perfect candidate for her pet/maid in training.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 21:05:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Wellt. Off to play FFVII...be back later. :D Seeya.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 22:00:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Wolfy, Dusk did say a while ago that he didn't want any more already transformed animals, the point of the game for him being the transformation process as much as anything so having animals already made defeats the purpose somewhat. We also now have a storyline where of the many attempts by Amy to make humans into animals she succeeded only three times - Musco, Sally and Molly. He wanted to set that story up to prevent more pre-made animals coming along.<br><br>I personally prefer having fun in the post-transformed stage but as it's his game I think we should wait to see how he feels about this. The other thing you could be is a farm worker.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 22:47:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				True, I could make a male Farm worker. o3o
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 22:52:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'll put up a post tonight or tomorrow.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 23:09:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				There's nothing preventing a farm worker from being partly transformed over the course of the RP, is there?&nbsp; We have Alex who has the added canine penis, after all.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 23:13:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				There is not.&nbsp; A worker may even have it done to them as punishment for disbehavior.&nbsp; maybe they failed in some task and are seen as not worthy of being human anymore and become one of the animals they used to beat down on and abuse before
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-10-2009, 23:27:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sounds like something Wolfy might enjoy.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 01:46:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I just had a thought, Dusk - I hope that scene is okay for you, being a guy and all? I can change it if its a problem and just have Rio take Sally quickly and close the scene if you'd prefer.<br><br>Also I hope the bit about the mental conditioning to respond in human fashion to sex is okay? It strikes me as a logical thing Andrews would do given how much time the owners and staff spend having sex with these delightful creations - it would add a lot to the fun to cause a human response to switch in. A real pig would just munch away on it probably thinking it was dinner. Not a good result...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 01:49:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Haibane...that hurts my entire soul for that second last sentence. Those are things that guys get in their minds direct and it's the power of being scared to hurt the dicks problem.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 01:59:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh yes, I can easily imagine the concern. I've never done it to a guy of course... I mean, why would I? Its much more fun without the blood and teeth marks and you shouldn't be putting sensitive parts into ladies mouths if you don't completely trust them... *winks*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 02:02:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well then we have to define trust and definitions are so hard if you been drinking and that's something that's often in the same area as meeting girls you never met before. Yet then again I doubt any girl have the need for vengeance upon me.<br><br>Can also add that if you're nice, I might just start trusting you ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 02:05:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Haha, well I've never done one night stands, so every time I've been in that situation I've known and trusted the person.<br><br>And me, nice? Well, you'll just have to find out...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 02:13:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				that is perfectly fine Hai!&nbsp; I am sure they know not to eat those... lol.&nbsp; And come on... Really... Pudding?&nbsp; XD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 02:19:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah, pudding. It comes with white sauce and everything, silly.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 02:21:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				thats right... european pudding is different then american pudding... XD&nbsp; never had eurpean pudding so I wouldnt know
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 02:27:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That is something I never understood. They change things and still call it the same name. How can pudding be two different things? My personal favourite in this is football. <br><br>Okay enough of that. I'm of to bed because in 5 hours and 33 minutes I have an exam...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 02:30:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Soccer FTW
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 02:33:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				White...allow me to do an leaving joke.<br><br>Did you know USA Olympic teams has an extra guide! There are no signs saying soccer!<br><br>Peace out and take care I'll see you all in roughly 7 hours.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 02:49:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think this is one of the oddest OOC threads I've even been a part of. It's nice.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 03:11:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				lol do I see Rio taking on a pet piggy?&nbsp; *pictures them cuddled up asleep on a pile of fresh hay*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 03:14:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Soon there will be so many to choose from! I'm not sure Rio can decide until she's tried them all.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 03:17:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				well if I read right, atm Sally is her favorite lol
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Henreich</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 06:04:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ok, Yu is posted. I noticed there is another hermaphrodite farmhand, and to add variety I'd be fine with changing to just being a female or even a male if that's needed. I was also wondering if the whole impregnate <em>and</em> be impregnated bit is fine? With her current "credentials" she kinda seems to be a hybrid of both a worker and animal, and if I have to change that that's fine. <br>Questions or comments?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 11:41:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hiya Henreich and welcome to the game. Thanks for posting a character. Please be aware though that the GM will need to check your writing style and such to see if you're suitable but good luck with that.<br><br>Yu's pretty good and I have a couple of comments but the final say is up to the GM, WhiteDusk.<br><br>First the farm is not known about in the outside world. Not at all. Nothing. Its completely concealed and when you think about what goes on there, that's a good thing as any curious person wandering by would be one huge security headache, so we need a tweak to Yu's backstory as to how she got to the farm. With other workers we made it by invite of the owners or we can simply leave the reason blank but assume it was not by discovery of the curious outsider.<br><br>We already have two hermaphrodite females and while mine was the second one even then I felt guilty about it since its overworking a theme I felt. Its up to Dusk but my gut feeling is that two of them in the game is enough. My leaning is towards having a male character as we already have a lot of females coming in as new pets and we seriously lack guys at the moment. There's a stack of cross-gender play going on too and I do prefer the guys to play male characters and vice-versa, a very personal thing I know, but its my preference and I thought I'd chuck it out there.<br><br>Other than that, welcome!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 14:45:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2364252#msg2364252">Quote from: thewhitedusk on 21-10-2009, 19:02:37</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">alright, so now is anyone interested in NPCing animals with me, or am I doing all the animals?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div> One way I thought this could go is that a farm hand would be present with say, a horse from the stable and would look after the animal and encourage it to mate with the human-animal, so in effect you'd NPC 'Random Farmhand X' alongside the person playing the human-animal and the actual livestock would be a part of the farmhand's posts. That gets around having to 'think' or describe the animals actions too much and gets by the problem of animals mating with humans randomly.<br><br>Another random thought - what is the relationship between the owners and the workers here? Is it very relaxed (lots of worker nudity being common and first name terms) or is it more formal (Ms. Danica, Ms. Andrews, Mr. Arroyo and the staff stayed dressed and respectable)?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 18:05:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think normally, Alves would be a rare sight on the actual farm, spending more time in the farm house or away from it. He doesn't seem very friendly, so people usually call him Mr. Arroyo. I imagine he dresses nicely.<br><br>I guess I'll leave Tara up to Danica and Goran :-( And find someone else to play with &gt;:)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kate</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 18:18:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				is there room for another?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 18:29:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2367977#msg2367977">Quote from: Darkly Dreaming Doomsday on 22-10-2009, 18:05:49</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I guess I'll leave Tara up to Danica and Goran :-( And find someone else to play with &gt;:)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Alrighty then.&nbsp; I'll continue on that assumption.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 18:40:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2368007#msg2368007">Quote from: Kate on 22-10-2009, 18:18:34</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">is there room for another?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div> I think so! I know you've been interested for a while. Did you find a character concept that appealed to you? If so, send the char bio to TheWhiteDusk for his comments.<br><br>Doomsday - it's funny, I imagine Alves is always here, a very much-hands on boss. I think he needs to be since Amy appears to be the backroom boffin - all the brains but no command ability while Danica being the field operative would be the one to be off-site much of the time. One of the three owners needs to be in charge! And wasn't it his perversion that was key to setting up the place? I would think he'd be fucking the brains out of the likes of Sally and Molly a lot! Or otherwise generally abusing them.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 18:50:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				You could be right. Hmm.<br><br>Though he would prefer Mr. Arroyo over Alves ;D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ramster</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 18:54:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Do I sniff with my roleplaying nostrils that there's a need for another male character in here?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 18:59:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That could be my feet, but your hunch is dead on :D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ramster</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 19:12:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Voyeurism is only one of its many own rewards. What kind of positions are most gapingly open?<br><br>I'd like to be either a twisted and cynical farmhand and/or gamekeeper, OR a man transformed into a stallion/bull/ram or something.<br><br>Thewhitedusk and other esteemed players, what do you think?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 19:18:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				The farmhand or gamekeeper sounds like it would be fun.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ramster</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 19:20:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Excellent, I rather like being human shaped. I could make a sort of gamekeeper who patrols the grounds with a shotgun keeping out trespassers, as well as making use of the farms various pleasures, drinking quite a lot of scrumpy and listening to the Wurzels!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 19:29:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Anndd...my first post! :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 19:32:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2368169#msg2368169">Quote from: ramster on 22-10-2009, 19:20:25</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Excellent, I rather like being human shaped. I could make a sort of gamekeeper who patrols the grounds with a shotgun keeping out trespassers, as well as making use of the farms various pleasures, drinking quite a lot of scrumpy and listening to the Wurzels!<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I'm sure if you wanted to, and asked nicely, Amy could make sure you were hung like a horse.&nbsp; ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 19:35:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Could someone do me a favor?&nbsp; I'm at work and afraid to check the character profile thread due to the wonderfully naughty pics..did I put "Would be okay with loosing some or all higher brain function"?&nbsp; I want to add it but wasn't sure and didn't want to risk looking.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 19:44:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				It's not on there right now.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 19:46:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Okay, will have to add it later
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 19:56:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				On that note, I also added a small item to the body modifications that basically says Elizabeths and Kanamis body will be working so wastelessly due to their new organs that they have no excretions whatsoever (so they're really tidy and I can avoid anything involving scat with that)&nbsp; :D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 20:02:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Haibane had some interesting body mods, including vanilla cum and wasteless waste O_o 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 20:03:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				hmmm vanilla cum
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 21:14:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2368169#msg2368169">Quote from: ramster on 22-10-2009, 19:20:25</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Excellent, I rather like being human shaped. I could make a sort of gamekeeper who patrols the grounds with a shotgun keeping out trespassers, as well as making use of the farms various pleasures, drinking quite a lot of scrumpy and listening to the Wurzels!<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>I do believe that Goran might talk more with such a character then any other.<br><br>I can also add on the earlier topic about what to call. Goran would like his first name. Swedes are like that. I would think it be strange if some one called me by my last name unless it's the nickname I have with some pals. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 21:17:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hai guys.&nbsp; Hai, in answer to your question, i would say it prolly depends on the character, and the character they are talking to.&nbsp; Amy wouldnt mind someone like Rio prolly calling her amy, but to Alex it would be Ms. Andrews, or Dr. Andrews, etc etc
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 21:38:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I don't know if anyone noticed yet but I changed the look of my character so I could actually get a picture of him posted, since there was no picture to match his previous description. Hope you all who are attracted to males enjoy it. ;D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 21:41:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				there's no pic showing up...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 22:32:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That's bizarre because it shows up on my computer.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 22:44:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				This is a test of Mathim's character pic, since I can't see the image in his char bio post either.<br><br>This image uses exactly the same URL, can you all please tell me if you can see it?<br><br>Thanks!<br><br>(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk137/HaibaneR/Alexander_Grayson.jpg)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 22:57:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I wouldn't think we really have scope for a gamekeeper position since its implied we already have security men in the grounds - and considerable private firepower.<br><br>Mathim, I really like the way you're portraying Alex, he's coming over as very twisted and very evil. Quite a thoroughly nasty piece of work.<br><br>And yes, I've suggested that we have a drug available that turns solid waste to a neutral scented and flavoured clear lubricant, so rectums are clean AND well lubricated. You just need to 'squish' out a pint or so of the stuff every 24 hours. I'm sure Amy would be OK with administering that treatment to anyone who wanted it. Heck, we could make it universal and put it in the water or food supply...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 23:03:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I&nbsp; can see the one Haibane posted, yes.<br><br>Also, putting the altered poo in the food supply?! :o<br><br>Maybe the vanilla semen &gt;:)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 23:07:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				She means the medication that causes that to happen to the poo, not the poo itself (not that it sounds all that harmful after it's been treated.)<br><br>I saw the pic fine, but I dont' know about everyone else.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 23:10:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh, the medicine that actually does that to them? It's fine by me.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 23:11:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I see the one Haibane posted (haven't scrolled back through the Character Profiles).&nbsp; Nice choice for a young doctor-type, and ditto on the twisted and evil part.&nbsp; <br><br>And I'm <em>really</em> hoping Haibane was talking about putting the treatment in the food/water supply (water supply would be easier to get it to all the animals, especially if any cows or horses end up eating grass). 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 23:18:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				It's fine, we've got the picture issue figured out, no more worries, my friends.<br><br>I don't see why we'd need to put it in the water necessarily. It could be given in pill or injection form easily enough, unless you're implying that it is something that needs to be given continuously like on a daily basis.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 23:19:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think Oniya shared my confusion, thinking Haibane meant we would put the lubri-poo into the water supply.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 23:21:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I don't know why it would necessarily be required to be in the water either - but if there <em>is</em> anything that requires continuous administration, water is the logical route.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 23:22:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I have a concern; does this altered waste become useless as fertilizer or do we care? I mean, what are we doing with it? Was going to suggest letting it become not neutral in smell but to smell strongly of ammonia so that it could still serve a purpose as fertilizer. It could still be clear or perhaps with a slightly yellow tint.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 23:35:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Heh, we do love to dwell on the details don't we?<br><br>Well in my sick mind its a treatment Andrews has invented so its a cocktail of drugs and things that affects the humans during the transform process, so it probably wouldn't work on actual animals since its geared to human DNA or genomes or some such. And it wouldn't be any use as a fertilizer. It would be fine to swallow orally just like sex-toy lube is.<br><br>Besides we need the animals to still make manure for fertilizer!<br><br>I don't know if it was a one-off treatment at the time of surgery or it's a continuous dosage, perhaps we can leave that to our resident science team to decide. What is important I think is each player should say yes or no to it when they get transformed, or we should just make it a farm-wide standard process as part of the transforming at which point we can all do buttsechs and no longer worry about icky stuff (which is its only purpose).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 23:38:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/surprise-buttsecks.jpg)<br><br>;D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Henreich</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 23:49:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2367274#msg2367274">Quote from: Haibane on 22-10-2009, 11:41:26</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">We already have two hermaphrodite females and while mine was the second one even then I felt guilty about it since its overworking a theme I felt. Its up to Dusk but my gut feeling is that two of them in the game is enough. My leaning is towards having a male character as we already have a lot of females coming in as new pets and we seriously lack guys at the moment.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Should I post up a new character sheet or modify the current one? I'm going to create a male character, would a worker or animal be better?<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2367274#msg2367274">Quote from: Haibane on 22-10-2009, 11:41:26</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Please be aware though that the GM will need to check your writing style and such to see if you're suitable but good luck with that.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br><em>Gulp</em><br><br>How should this be done? I have just been newly approved so I don't have much posted on E at the moment...<br><br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 23:51:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Awww, Musco! Didn't know you cared!<br><br>On yet another minor thing (phew!) I made a small change to the house plan today by indicating steps down to the lab from the lounge area and Amy's bedroom. Plus steps down from the back door by Rio's and Alex's rooms. The door down the next set of steps from the utility room door, the 'side door' and the double doors to the lab are kept locked and only the science team plus owners have keys.<br><br>This I think adds to the creepyness of the lab, distancing it from the living spaces a bit plus there's now scope under the house (below Amy's/Alex's bedrooms) to have a further cellar or lab extension.<br><br>I also showed some stairs down into a cellar below the kitchen as we seem to have lots of staff and a tiny kitchen so this will have freezers in and a larder and such. Like wine store. And beer. Yes!<br><br>The new plan is in the Info post but not yet in the title posts of the two game threads. I hope Dusk will edit it in soon.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-10-2009, 23:52:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2369270#msg2369270">Quote from: Henreich on 22-10-2009, 23:49:44</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Should I post up a new character sheet or modify the current one? I'm going to create a male character, would a worker or animal be better?<br><br><em>Gulp</em><br><br>How should this be done? I have just been newly approved so I don't have much posted on E at the moment...<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>I suggest you just wait and let TheWhiteDusk get back to you. *hugs*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Henreich</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 00:02:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Okey-dokey
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 00:38:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				hey guys, sorry I havent been posting today.&nbsp; I have been spending most of my time in the bathroom with my head hanging over the toilet, and my muse is feeling just as cruddy as I am.&nbsp; I hope to get something in tonight if my stomach starts feeling better
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 00:40:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oooh - hope you feel better soon.&nbsp; Ginger-stuff is good for settling the stomach.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 00:44:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry to hear that Dusk. Are you ill or was it self-inflicted by liquid?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 00:47:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2369280#msg2369280">Quote from: Haibane on 22-10-2009, 23:51:41</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Awww, Musco! Didn't know you cared!<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Wait, what? 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 00:50:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Flu's been going around.&nbsp; I just hopeit isnt anything too serious.&nbsp; I know H191 was spreading around a college campus not too far from here, but I am not feeling that cruddy, so I think its just a simple case of the flu&nbsp; *wishes he had chicken noodle soup instead of only ramen in the house*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 06:11:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Only ramen?! &gt;:|<br><br>Son, I am disappoint.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 15:44:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I keep having these random and bothersome plot thoughts.<br><br>We have Sally, Molly and Musco who have the bodies of people (with additions/alterations) but the minds of animals. Now I've already inferred that Molly has some issues and that she thinks about stuff. I'm going to develop that as I go along and make it more... complex.<br><br>But I was thinking just now, surely isn't it more fun if we don't lobotomise the transformed animals and they still retain the function to reason and talk? THEN we subject them to a cruel regime of forcing them into animal behaviours, not-speaking, bondage, flagellation, rape and all that yummy stuff. The humiliation and degradation while they can still think as people and want to be people is much more erotic that just having a bunch of brain-dead cows and cats and horses that are physically still human.<br><br>Isn't it?<br><br>Or did I miss something?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ramster</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 15:49:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				On that note, is there scope for a laid back and cynical male biker who has engine trouble, stops at the farmhouse to ask for some help and ends up turned into a reasonably sapient ram? My username just gave me an idea, and I didn't feel like turning into a hamster with that cat around!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 16:00:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well I certainly was never going to play Musco as though he were lobotomized!&nbsp; He can talk and reason just fine.&nbsp; Any difficulties there would be due to his total lack of schooling and years spent as a <br>"plaything" for despicable clients.&nbsp; He was never even treated as human before he became an animal, so he certainly wouldn't expect to be treated as one now that he's part cat.<br><br>Which is actually intensely depressing, now that I think about it.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 16:07:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2371618#msg2371618">Quote from: Haibane on 23-10-2009, 15:44:19</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">But I was thinking just now, surely isn't it more fun if we don't lobotomise the transformed animals and they still retain the function to reason and talk? THEN we subject them to a cruel regime of forcing them into animal behaviours, not-speaking, bondage, flagellation, rape and all that yummy stuff. The humiliation and degradation while they can still think as people and want to be people is much more erotic that just having a bunch of brain-dead cows and cats and horses that are physically still human.<br><br>Isn't it?<br><br>Or did I miss something?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>The way I see it, the newcomers will still have to be broken in, which will give us some time to see them in the sapient condition.&nbsp; Perhaps the lobotomizing could be an additional punishment inflicted on the characters whose players want it?&nbsp; I can see some characters getting psychologically broken to the point where they simply lose hope of escape, and others who slowly realize (probably with some horror) that they enjoy what they are being subjected to - on top of being physically unable to escape it.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 16:50:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2371652#msg2371652">Quote from: Shihong on 23-10-2009, 16:00:57</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Well I certainly was never going to play Musco as though he were lobotomized!&nbsp; He can talk and reason just fine.&nbsp; Any difficulties there would be due to his total lack of schooling and years spent as a <br>"plaything" for despicable clients.&nbsp; He was never even treated as human before he became an animal, so he certainly wouldn't expect to be treated as one now that he's part cat.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div> I'm sure it's my fault but I just can't imagine that mindset. I assumed Musco had had something done to him to stop him having human thoughts. Isn't that the game we are playing here? Andrews did something to him, both physically and mentally?<br><br>Maybe lobotomised is the wrong word. In fact I'm sure it is. I meant having freewill and the ability to speak and reason removed surgically or chemically. Is that the same thing?<br><br>To me having a pet who looks like a gorgeous girl or boy with the addition of sexy but degrading animal parts and who's fully aware of their situation but can't escape it and who is kept in check by the force of my char's personality is much more arousing to me than a girl who actually thinks she's a cow or a boy who thinks he's really a cat. Do you follow?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ramster</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 16:59:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Right guys, here's my proposal for a character:<br><br>Name: Rémi Pruvost<br>Age: 36<br><br>Rémi is a French Canadian motorcyclist touring through the general area who has the good misfortune to end up in the claws of the local mad scientists. He is pressed into service as a stud animal after his initial reluctance to come to terms with being a sheep. It isn't as bad as he'd expected; ewes have become attractive to him and there are quite a few of them, not to mention the fact that many other females in all shapes and sizes seem to be available for his use. He can be recognised among the small flock of non-human based sheep on the farm by the fact that he smokes, tells the sheepdog to piss off and occasionally scratches Pythagoras's theorem into the mud out of boredom in between molesting various farm animals.<br><br>What do you think? Most of the character can be edited and fleshed out, hur hur hur...<br><br>Haibane, I suppose being a certain shape does make one think in a certain way. Simply being cat shaped might just be quite enough to start pounce on small furry things instinctively and keep ones own arse licked clean at all times! Of course, the underlying intelligence can be that of a human or of a dumb animal. Excuse my lay theorising about human and animal psychology folks!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 17:04:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2371765#msg2371765">Quote from: ramster on 23-10-2009, 16:59:15</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Simply being cat shaped might just be quite enough to start pounce on small furry things instinctively and keep ones own arse licked clean at all times! <br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I imagine if the flexibility were there, auto-fellatio and auto-cunnilingus would be quite tempting.&nbsp; Or, to put it less scientifically:&nbsp; Why does a dog lick his balls?&nbsp; Because he can!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ramster</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 17:07:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Why does a dog lick his balls?&nbsp; Because he can!<br><br>Why do men rather enjoy blowjobs? Because they can't!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 17:43:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*looks into ooc chat with a slightly green face*&nbsp; Morning all... still feeling like shit, but I will make sure to get posts up.&nbsp; In fact gonna work on that right now
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 18:09:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2371733#msg2371733">Quote from: Haibane on 23-10-2009, 16:50:51</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"> I'm sure it's my fault but I just can't imagine that mindset. I assumed Musco had had something done to him to stop him having human thoughts. Isn't that the game we are playing here? Andrews did something to him, both physically and mentally?<br><br>Maybe lobotomised is the wrong word. In fact I'm sure it is. I meant having freewill and the ability to speak and reason removed surgically or chemically. Is that the same thing?<br><br>To me having a pet who looks like a gorgeous girl or boy with the addition of sexy but degrading animal parts and who's fully aware of their situation but can't escape it and who is kept in check by the force of my char's personality is much more arousing to me than a girl who actually thinks she's a cow or a boy who thinks he's really a cat. Do you follow?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I follow you perfectly, but Musco was created along different lines.&nbsp; I mean <em>my</em> creation of him.&nbsp; To be perfectly honest I had difficulty following all the trains of thought that were colliding throughout this thread, which you already know resulted in my having to edit Musco's background a few different times.&nbsp; What you're describing in the last paragraph seems absolutely perfect for what the new abducted people are going to be put through.&nbsp; Just not mine.<br><br>Imagine this rather hideous scenario.&nbsp; You're taken as a child and raised independently from parents, and are "abused" in ways that sicken me to describe.&nbsp; You are not treated as a person, but as a "thing".&nbsp; By the time Andrews got his hands on the boy he was about as broken as a human being can get.&nbsp; Whatever procedures the doctor may have performed in regards to his brain would likely have been to purge some of these memories so that he could have a chance at being functional and even social, but it wouldn't be nearly enough to make him normal.&nbsp; Musco would probably prefer to embrace his animalistic side, rather than the humanity he was deprived of.<br><br>But maybe I'm thinking too in-depth for this sort of roleplay.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 18:37:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Now that you've described it that way, and so graphically I think I'm closer to understanding how you perceive Musco's personality and behaviour. And why he's like that. So thanks, yes, that helps a lot.<br><br>I think Rio might try and make life a bit more fun for him too, assuming she has learned some of his history from what Andrews or Grayson might have divulged. I'm trying to play Rio fairly innocently here too - she's at the bottom of the social order at the farm, she's basically maid and cook in the house and gets the crap jobs outside - mucking out the animal stalls and freshening food and she's quite ignorant of Andrew's processes only picking up what she might overhear round the dinner table or whatever but we'll see if I can't get her somehow onto Musco's wavelength.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 18:46:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Dokuro, I asked Oniya who was going to break Tara and she said Doomsday would do so. I would not interfere unless either of them say its okay. Otherwise it would not be nice. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 18:50:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm going to be hosting our housewarming party tonight so will likely not be posting.&nbsp; Posts will come Saturday and Sunday though.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 18:53:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well I like the thought of a smoking sheep. I do enjoy how everything is progressing and how feisty Tara is.<br><br>Now to test a new drink. Raspberry lemonade and vodka. One have to warm up before going out to the college pub and there is Football on TV. *Stares all Americans down*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 18:56:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2367977#msg2367977">Quote from: Darkly Dreaming Doomsday on 22-10-2009, 18:05:49</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I think normally, Alves would be a rare sight on the actual farm, spending more time in the farm house or away from it. He doesn't seem very friendly, so people usually call him Mr. Arroyo. I imagine he dresses nicely.<br><br>I guess I'll leave Tara up to Danica and Goran :-( And find someone else to play with &gt;:)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I'm sure that Tara will have some time with Arroyo at some point.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 19:15:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh I didn't see him say that... Okay well, solves that question lol. <br><br>Well looks like you can ignore what I said Dukoro lol. Want to get at it then Goran?<br><br>I will edit my posts a bit, in light of this knowledge so Danica was not so 'harsh' towards Goran. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 19:35:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just a small polite request, Xanatos, would you please consider using quote marks around spoken text? I find it a little hard to follow your posts. I know you're putting speech emboldened but quotes is the usual way to show dialogue. Thanks.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 19:46:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well Xanatos you can bring Tara down to Goran later. Now he took his leave, since you took her in for talk, Goran leaves because he is no much for talking. You can go on that if Tara wonders (after the editing) why Goran just left. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 19:50:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				When characters move between threads, would players be interested in providing cross links so a reader can follow the character when they leave? I can give instructions on how to do this if you're not sure.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 20:07:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I prefer bolding, easier for me to read. I actually find it harder to read the normal way, sorry.<br><br><br>Yeah sure no problem Dukoro. I think treating Tara nice for now will only make it more horrible for her when Goran decides to break her in, -chuckles-. I think after breakfast Danica will bring her down. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 20:09:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think one of my posts got deleted somehow. I made a post in the Farm House thread and it's not there for some reason. Has anyone else had that problem happen?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 20:13:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Not that I have noticed. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 20:23:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2372138#msg2372138">Quote from: Dokuro on 23-10-2009, 18:53:06</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Well I like the thought of a smoking sheep. I do enjoy how everything is progressing and how feisty Tara is.<br><br>Now to test a new drink. Raspberry lemonade and vodka. One have to warm up before going out to the college pub and there is Football on TV. *Stares all Americans down*<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>College ball doesn't start until tomorrow, silly.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 20:25:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2372396#msg2372396">Quote from: Mathim on 23-10-2009, 20:09:55</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I think one of my posts got deleted somehow. I made a post in the Farm House thread and it's not there for some reason. Has anyone else had that problem happen?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Happens to me sometimes. You must have hit post and then moved to another tab or window, and maybe missed this sort of message <br><br>" Warning - while you were reading a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post. "
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 20:33:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2372448#msg2372448">Quote from: Darkly Dreaming Doomsday on 23-10-2009, 20:23:54</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">College ball doesn't start until tomorrow, silly.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Oi there! I was talking about real football. One where you get a red card for using your hands! ^__^ Also my college doesn't have a team in any sport, we do have a pub and that's all we need. College life in Sweden includes fine women and alcohol. If I had money I would be a rock star. A perverted one but which rock star ain't?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 20:39:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*Engages fistfight concerning etymology of football. Nothing productive comes out of it*<br><br>I've posted as Alves and Holly.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 20:42:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I guess I can't remember the circumstances but I'll make sure to copy the text before I post next time, otherwise I'll be forced to re-write an entire post.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 21:09:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Copy-paste. God bless the inventor!<br><br>Well people after a good fistfight with Doomsday I will now go and enjoy a drink at the pub. Take care now and behave, just like I would have done! ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 21:35:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2372387#msg2372387">Quote from: DarkXanatos on 23-10-2009, 20:07:53</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I think <strong>after breakfast</strong> Danica will bring her down.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div> You're aware it's early afternoon now, yes?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 21:42:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				It's like Denny's - breakfast any time you feel like cooking it ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 21:55:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Of course, but as long as people are aware of the time of day, Amy's first post noted that it was after lunch. It's just slightly bizarre for someone to offer a guest breakfast at 1 or 2 in the afternoon.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>23-10-2009, 23:26:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Are we going to have any avian-modeled females? I'd love some of the beasties to be able to lay eggs.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>24-10-2009, 00:05:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Might be hard with normal farm animals.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>24-10-2009, 00:59:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				We could have chickens..o3o
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>24-10-2009, 01:03:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That would be one big chicken...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>24-10-2009, 01:25:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Or a nice big cock....o-o<br><br><br>Yes, I intended that joke. You may kill me for it now.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>24-10-2009, 01:42:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I walked into it. x_x
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>24-10-2009, 01:51:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yep, ya did. :P ^_^
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>24-10-2009, 02:01:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Nothing wrong with duck.<br><br>(http://elliquiy.com/elluiki/images/2/2d/Duck.jpg)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>24-10-2009, 02:03:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2372081#msg2372081">Quote from: Haibane on 23-10-2009, 18:37:37</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">but we'll see if I can't get her somehow onto Musco's wavelength.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Yes we most certainly will!&nbsp; ;D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>24-10-2009, 03:32:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I go out to the pub for like 4-5 hours and no post to answer to.<br>It's almost like you people have a life beside keeping my life exiting :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>24-10-2009, 06:40:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh bugger.&nbsp; <br><br>Xanatos, Danica's going to have to go on without Alves's direction.&nbsp; Doomsday is gone for the weekend.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>24-10-2009, 11:55:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah, Dokuro, I don't know why Wolfy didn't post last night. I'll do a small filler post from Molly for you to react to. It's odd, after a fast first day things have slowed a lot, then again Dusk is ill.<br><br>Also no sign of Mayalee yet. What I suggest is we no longer refer to her character (maybe those of us who have referred to her which I think is only Doomsday edit her char name from the posts) and if she never posts then Aoi just never existed and if she comes back she can join in having assumed to be with the car-load group but remained silent.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>24-10-2009, 12:24:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				As the game progresses I'm going to keep track of the <em>factual</em> information created in player posts to form a Canon, I'll add to it here (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50528.msg2375314#msg2375314). If you do a post that you consider contains new factual information about a character, place, object or routine on the farm, or in the world outside, please drop me a PM to let me know. I'm reading everyone's posts so I hope I can spot them but it helps to have extra input. Thanks.<br><br>I hope that we can soon get some facts down about how Andrews does her transforming which will help new players understand what's going on.<br><br>The Canon Information list should help us make the game more believable, consistent and enjoyable.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>24-10-2009, 17:34:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sally the pig?<br><br>http://drewpickles.com/files/Cowgirl.jpg (http://drewpickles.com/files/Cowgirl.jpg)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>24-10-2009, 17:54:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hmm.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>24-10-2009, 18:06:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Although why the pic is titled 'cowgirl' with a nose like that and six breasts I have no idea.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ramster</strong> on <strong>24-10-2009, 18:07:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				The artist misread his toddler's board book?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>24-10-2009, 19:01:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Wolfy, I'll wait before responding as Dokuro might want to post.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>24-10-2009, 19:12:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				K. o3o *goes off to take a nap*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>25-10-2009, 12:43:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Things have slowed right down. Who are we waiting for in the farmhouse?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>25-10-2009, 17:13:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Doomsday is gone for the weekend.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>25-10-2009, 17:38:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Aha. That explains things. Thanks.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>25-10-2009, 18:08:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Perhaps I need to point out that this behaviour of Molly's is nothing unusual and that rape of the two converted girls is common.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>25-10-2009, 20:55:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ach, three in a row. Sorry. I've been discussing character weights and heights with another player and found that Rio was far too light for her height and age, so I've beefed her up from 125 to 145 pounds and added an inch to her bust and two to her waist. She's no longer a stick insect!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>mayalee</strong> on <strong>25-10-2009, 20:57:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Im still in, my computer died so I had to get a new one, sorry all.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>25-10-2009, 20:57:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				This is why I rarely give a character a weight.&nbsp; I'll give a build, like 'slender', 'athletic', 'voluptuous', 'muscular', or whatever.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>25-10-2009, 21:01:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Mmm, yeah *nods*<br><br>We were discussing what will happen weight-wise to a character who is going to get transformed with bigger bust, hips, thighs, etc, so the discussion about BMI came up and I just noticed my girl was way too thin.<br><br>But yeah, I should have just described Rio as 'pleasantly chunky'.<br><br>Mayalee, its ok, you haven't missed much. TheWhiteDusk is ill right now sadly and has been for about 3 days while Doomsday Jesus is away over the weekend so not a great deal has happened in the farmhouse thread.<br><br>Great to have you back though *hugs*.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>mayalee</strong> on <strong>25-10-2009, 21:13:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*hugs back* no problem.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>25-10-2009, 21:24:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Lita's before pic is up
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>25-10-2009, 21:38:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Huzzah, fun in the Lower Pasture!&nbsp; I thought Musco would be lounging forever!&nbsp; ;D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>25-10-2009, 22:22:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm sure that when Amy and the car load gets here and the humans are all busy, the animals will have some time together.<br><br>EDIT: And, mhmn, yeah, waiting for Wolfy in the lower pasture now.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>25-10-2009, 23:17:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Poor old Raiga! No-one wants him! Awwww
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>26-10-2009, 01:47:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Damn you animals...I'll got a bucket of water soon :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>26-10-2009, 02:01:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				There's some cattle prods in the store shed.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>26-10-2009, 07:23:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Darn Molly..such an unintentional tease...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>26-10-2009, 08:31:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				So I'm back. Anything I should know from these last 10 or so pages of OOC?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>26-10-2009, 11:19:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				You mean you're not going to read them?!<br><br>And LOL, you were here on p.20!<br><br>I added a post to the info thread that is going to be used to collect canon facts so we don't trip over ourselves later on by saying/doing stuff that's contradicts what was put in place before.<br><br>Mm... I think that's it. Skim through if you want, it's mostly chatter though so won't take you long.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>26-10-2009, 17:31:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2373680#msg2373680">Quote from: Haibane on 24-10-2009, 02:01:18</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Nothing wrong with duck.<br><br>(http://elliquiy.com/elluiki/images/2/2d/Duck.jpg)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Precisely what I had in mind. We could eat the eggs then or incubate them and hatch the chicks.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>26-10-2009, 22:14:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I was here on 20? Oh, ok. I just assumed that we would keep blazing in the OOC because we've made about 20 pages in a week.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>26-10-2009, 23:40:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well we ran out of stuff to rant about...so it kind of stopped.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 00:02:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				You weren't here, so inexplicably the verbal torrent ceased ;)<br><br>We also seem to be slightly hung up awaiting Dusk who seems to still be ill, though you and Xanatos can talk with Tara while the animals play on with Goran.<br><br>I wonder if we could bring Amy's car load here without Dusk doing an Amy post? That would speed the game up a whole lot.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 01:40:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'd rather wait for Dusk to progress that part of the game but I'll post as Alves now.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 02:02:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm trying to figure out what I should do with Tara. Any suggestions? I don't want to rush things, or should I?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 02:19:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Scare her to escape...call for Goran and let me carry her to you. An big ass Scandinavian can be scary when he's chasing you and I can use a atv 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 02:31:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2384412#msg2384412">Quote from: Darkly Dreaming Doomsday on 27-10-2009, 02:02:14</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'm trying to figure out what I should do with Tara. Any suggestions? I don't want to rush things, or should I?</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div> Do you mean in the short term, or in the long term?<br><br>Short term is tricky, since she needs a workman to give her something to do and all the PCs are now busy other than Arroyo and Danica. You could check with Xanatos to see if Danica wishes to spend time with her.<br><br>Or you could create an NPC farmhand on the fly and have him show Tara the ordinary parts of the farm.<br><br>Or Arroyo could give her a tour. He's the farm owner and it makes sense if a policeman brought a person for 'community work' that the owner would show her around, at least initially.<br><br>Or you could wait until Dusk returns which would release Rio from her scene with Sally and/or bring Andrews and the others onto the scene.<br><br>If you're thinking long term, that's for Oniya to decide what she wants for the Tara character so best sort through the details with her.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 02:33:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I don't see where this makers me drive an ATV after a crying girl...like in all those horror movies one saw as a child? ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 02:39:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Or we could go with Dokuro's plan LOL. It works too and I think Goran has had enough of babysitting nutjob animals. XD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 02:46:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Nutjob animals? It's a whole farm with the three of you! ^__^
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 02:46:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Fetch Goran, fetch!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 02:55:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I blame the dog.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 03:01:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I blame all three...And allow me: Wroom bruum
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 03:21:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Xanatos, I'm confused. Jordan hasn't been converted yet. Only three animals were successfully converted so far - Sally, Molly, Musco. Why is Danica referring to Jordan as a bull?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 03:36:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I believe he talks about what she would enjoy most in bed
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 04:01:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm still a little undecided when it comes to long-term.&nbsp; I wouldn't mind having a little molestation and/or bestiality before she learns that she's going to lose her humanity.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 14:23:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2384861#msg2384861">Quote from: Dokuro on 27-10-2009, 03:36:05</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I believe he talks about what she would enjoy most in bed<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div> *nods* That's one interpretation of Danica's words, yeah. Xanatos, please confirm. Jordan is still fully human/untransformed. Thanks.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 17:59:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Might it have already been decided that he's going to become one, and that's why?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 18:15:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yep, yep. Just wanted to make sure since we decided the only successful transformed animals so far are the pig, cat and cow. Since then new processes discovered and perfected and now the new influx of <del>visitors</del> victims are here for the new methods to be tried out on...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 18:41:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hooray for milk!&nbsp; Can you say "lack of mother figure" issues? 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 18:45:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I wanna be giving milk..hopefully we get there soon!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 19:02:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Poor old Raiga... shooed away just as dopey Molly's mood swings kick back in... what an unlucky dog!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 19:39:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Maybe Raiga can have a go at some of the new meat.&nbsp; *pets puppy*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 21:04:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				He's like a little brother to my character, LOL. They've got the same type of dong.<br><br>I think based on certain body types, males are better suited for being converted into certain types so we can just assume the football player type is more like a bull. Then we don't need to play the guessing game or have to go back and change things.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 21:30:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				You have a point but I've been talking in PMs to a player whose human physique is what I'd call cat-like but they want to be a cow. It's easier if we just leave it to player preference.<br><br>And yes, I'm sure Raiga will get to have some fun eventually...<br><br>WhiteDusk, would you be able to do a Sally post when you feel able, please? Then I can do a Rio post to close that scene off, which will free her up to talk to the new guests and do whatever domestic stuff is needed.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 21:37:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I see. But for that one small incidence of premature foreshadowing, we can just use that as an excuse.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 21:46:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, yeah, you could, but most players have expressed a preference so we need to go with that I think.<br><br>Tara; player wants her to become a horse or goat or cat or dog.<br>Kanami; player wants her to become a dog.<br>Mark; player wants him to become a bull.<br>Holly; player wants her to become a cat.<br>Aoi; player wants her to become a cat or horse.<br>Lita; player wants her to become a cow.<br>Elizabeth; player wants her to become a cow.<br><br>There's some choices there but we need to respect the players wishes.<br><br>My feeling was that each animal would have a trainer and in the case of players who've said they don't mind which animal they become then the trainer chooses from the options given.<br><br>Apart from one or two cases, trainers haven't been decided yet... *licks lips*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 21:48:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Haiban's character (Ryo?) is my choice of trainer ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 21:52:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Rio. As in the Duran Duran song. LOL *hugs*<br><br>Duran Duran - Rio (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5c0NeG-8ZI#noexternalembed-normal)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 21:52:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Rio then
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 21:57:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well the numbers might be a bit squiffy, don't know if there'll be enough of a decent ratio of trainers to pets, and besides, that might detract from people being able to experience variety. Like if they want to keep pets exclusively to themselves or something.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 22:00:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yep, yep... I think someone said we should have no more than 2 pets per person or something. But even so that leaves us the capacity easily.<br><br>Rio might like to be friendly with Musco too, if she can get onto his 'person liking side'.<br><br>If we are short on either trainers or animals and someone wants to specifically do something I could easily make a 3rd character.<br><br>Mmm, I'm on a roll tonight. Hubby is out and I have a bottle of wine here and I'm buzzing. I hope people post! :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>27-10-2009, 23:54:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Goran is in position for a awkward hunt. It would be fun to see what the all American boy would do if he saw a girl running out and being pinned by the giant man. ^__^
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>28-10-2009, 00:01:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just to clarify; Molly often speaks, she can do so as she hasn't been reduced to an animal completely like Sally has. What she doesn't do is use big words, form many of her own ideas or use complex concepts.<br><br>There was one word she used earlier, Dokuro which I PM'd you about. Goran might think that was odd.<br><br>But hearing her talk would in no way be a surprise to Goran, she does it every day. She could wear a dress, sit at a table and hold a conversation - it just wouldn't be a very interesting one.<br><br>EDIT: When you move between threads, if you provide a link, its only really helpful if it links to <em>your last post</em>. Linking it to the start of the thread doesn't help anyone much who is following the game. See my connection with Molly between the Pasture and Lower Pasture as an example. I didn't link threads, I linked posts. So if Goran leaves the lower pasture, the link needs to go to the correct Goran post in the farmhouse and not to the start of the farmhouse thread. See?<br><br>Doing this does require you to edit one post. I know it takes a bit of work but once you've done it once or twice it becomes easy and it looks very slick.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>28-10-2009, 01:15:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Bless you Dokuro! *hugs tight*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>28-10-2009, 01:50:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Dokuro...He, in the corner.<br>There to serve and be loved ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>28-10-2009, 02:12:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hmm...I really need another character....I find that Raiga is kinda limited. o-o
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>28-10-2009, 04:04:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Heh, he just got manipulated there rather badly.<br><br>A farm worker might be fun?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>28-10-2009, 04:16:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think I'd like Holly to be trained by Rio, but I can go with anyone really (besides Alves, of course). I just remember you saying something about how Rio might need to train someone to do all of the housework, and I figure a cat-girl would be more of a housepet than most of those others ;)<br><br>As for Alves, I think he would invest his time with Aoi or Elizabeth :-)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>28-10-2009, 05:06:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah I was thinking a farm worker...<br><br>Really all that Raiga can do is either run around barking or rarely try to mount someone....he can't interact very well unless it's to get tummy rubs or something cute..o-o
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>28-10-2009, 05:08:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Cool, make a farm worker :D<br><br>Also, Xanatos, what's up with Jordan?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>28-10-2009, 07:19:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Doom, Aoi will be for Danica, unless Mayalee wishes to change that. Me and Mayalee talked over PM and me and her are like the only two who don't want bestiality, so thats more or less why we paired up. <br><br>Danica won't be taking Tara if thats what your thinking, she was for Alves so Alves will get her, no worries. Danica doesn't go around nabbing other people's pets. <br><br>As for Jordan, what do you mean? Can you be more specific?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>28-10-2009, 07:30:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That's fine, thanks for the clarification. But about Jordan, as Haibane has pointed out recently, he's not transformed yet, is he?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>28-10-2009, 12:29:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				For Rio I have been speaking with TrippingSerpent and it's looking like the Canadian woman will train up Lita to be a cow, often outside in the barn but with some maid/cleaning duties indoors (no hooves). Haven't decided yet if a cow would be a suitable creature to sleep indoors but I think not so full pet status is unsure.<br><br>I'd also like to spend some time having Rio interact with Musco but I don't know yet if that would classify him as her 'pet'.<br><br>Holly is a possible but I think three other players to interact with would result in too much down time for the characters currently not in a training session, unless those players do not mind and can either park them aside or do something else with them.<br><br>Also, Wolfy, when you think about it, Molly and Sally are not really playable characters either, they only get screen time when a human starts a scene with them (or Raiga does) as they are too slow witted to initiate scenes.<br><br>Wolfy can drop by the stables any time, get an NPC farm worker to let either Sally or Molly out, lead them to the Lower Stables and have his wicked way with them. Just because Goran intervened this time doesn't mean Raiga will be thwarted again. You could just let people know that you want some 'Raiga time' in the OOC thread so he won't be disturbed.<br><br>I would be happy to write NPC scenes depicting mass rapes of Molly and/or Sally by a group of farm workers simply because such scenes turn me on like crazy ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>28-10-2009, 12:50:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				As does Canadien herm farm hands doing bad things to cow girls ^^
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>28-10-2009, 17:42:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				For anyone interested in playing another character, here is a bomb-ass set of animal-hybrid pics (female only):<br>http://www.imagefap.com/gallery/1713165 (http://www.imagefap.com/gallery/1713165)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>28-10-2009, 20:38:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Wow. Some of these are creepy... but some are hot! I like some of the cat girls.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>28-10-2009, 21:54:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Doom, Jordan is partially transformed. I already talked to thewhitedusk about this, over PM before the game started, and he made no mention of me not being able to have Jordan already done up, at least partially. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>28-10-2009, 22:35:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I have an idea for a 2nd victim character to play but it would be something I would want to bring in much later.<br><br>The idea would be a highly intelligent crime boss rival.&nbsp; Her fate could either be a farm animal or a heavily dumbed down/bulked up farm hand or something.&nbsp; Pretty much she tries to make some moves on territory but is captured by the farm owners.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>28-10-2009, 23:04:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ooh, I love irony like that. Maybe one of ours should be someone who habitually mistreated animals/hunted defenseless animals for fun in their life before being captured?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>29-10-2009, 03:17:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I just lost tack of this conversation....Maybe I get it tomorrow when I'm not being as influenced as I am now.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>29-10-2009, 03:18:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2391689#msg2391689">Quote from: DarkXanatos on 28-10-2009, 21:54:29</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Doom, Jordan is partially transformed. I already talked to thewhitedusk about this, over PM before the game started, and he made no mention of me not being able to have Jordan already done up, at least partially.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div> This is not necessarily true. The GMs are discussing this with Xanatos over PMs.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>29-10-2009, 12:09:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Morning everyone.<br><br>Hmnmmm, whose turn is it to post? The car-load can keep chatting among themselves I suppose. Dusk, please, when you're feeling up to it can you do a Sally post? Please, please please? *hugs* I'll then close that scene down and get Rio to the farmhouse where she can help on the domestic side of settling the car-load in for their overnight stay.<br><br>Wolfy - how are your thoughts on writing a male farm worker char?<br><br>We had 2 or 3 other people interested in joining, what happened to them Dusk?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>29-10-2009, 15:56:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				http://cache.imagefap.com/images/full/39/124/1243222850.jpg (http://cache.imagefap.com/images/full/39/124/1243222850.jpg)<br><br>That's the closest to what I imagine Holly would look like, but I'm not a big fan of full body fur.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>29-10-2009, 15:59:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I agree with you on the fur issue. I like my partners smooth and slippery. You can use that pic for Holly if you like, if you include a 'no fur' comment. Its a nice bit of Photoshopping anyway.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>29-10-2009, 16:16:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Nah. If I do that, all picture would help for was to provide imagery for tails and ears. I think I'll just leave most of it up to the imagination. Though I was going for more of a darker color, either a smoky gray or just plain black, for her cat features.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>29-10-2009, 16:28:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Human skin tone stays as normal?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>29-10-2009, 16:31:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ideally, yes.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>29-10-2009, 16:38:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*nods* That's my preference for these transformations but I used the black and white skinned cow pic because I thought it was so well done and it really appealed to me.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>29-10-2009, 18:09:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That link isn't working for me, can someone post the actual pic of Holly?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>29-10-2009, 19:26:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				It's the grey/black Siamese cat girl which was on the imagefap collection you posted. The model is on all fours facing left, face turned to camera and nude apart from a black thong. I think its one of the better cat-girl photoshops.<br><br>EDIT: Also on E uploaded by me ages ago.<br><br>http://elliquiy.com/elluiki/images/9/97/Siamese_cat.jpg (http://elliquiy.com/elluiki/images/9/97/Siamese_cat.jpg)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>29-10-2009, 19:44:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2391893#msg2391893">Quote from: Transgirlenstein on 28-10-2009, 22:35:36</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I have an idea for a 2nd victim character to play but it would be something I would want to bring in much later.<br><br>The idea would be a highly intelligent crime boss rival.&nbsp; Her fate could either be a farm animal or a heavily dumbed down/bulked up farm hand or something.&nbsp; Pretty much she tries to make some moves on territory but is captured by the farm owners.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I am wondering if I should leave this for awhile or not. I am thinking yes and that she might work better becoming a dumbed down/bulked up farmhand since we will need more of those and will have a lot of animals (unless we are lacking in a certain type of animal).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>29-10-2009, 19:59:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				With Dusk being so badly ill this last few days there's a few issues pending, one of which is about 3 or 4 members who applied or enquired but haven't got involved yet so I hope we might see a couple of those join us.<br><br>I still think we need a closer ratio of workers to animals though, so yeah, keep a worker in mind for now but I think its a strong possibility he/she will be needed.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>29-10-2009, 20:04:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				yes ma'am I will!&nbsp; I like the idea of a once intelligent proud enemy being reduced to doing manuel labor and tasks..and loosing a lot of her dangerous brain power.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>29-10-2009, 20:32:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				So.. you're proposing another victim, essentially, yes? Not a worker?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>29-10-2009, 20:35:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm surprised that with 12 players in this game we haven't had one post in the last 24 hours. Is there a problem for anyone?<br><br>I'm not cracking the whip here, I am just genuinely puzzled by how slowly this game is running. Are people losing interest?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>29-10-2009, 20:37:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				yes, but a victim who will be made into a worker as opposed to an animal.<br><br>And I'm just waiting for the workers as it were to interact with me.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>29-10-2009, 21:26:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Another one of my OOC posts was mysteriously not posted.<br><br>At any rate, I disagree Haibane, I think the animals should always outnumber the workers. It's like with a classroom, there should be more students than teachers, and that way we don't have to worry about anyone claiming ownership and keeping others from being able to play with the 'pets'.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>29-10-2009, 21:33:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, the ex-boss would be no better then an animal herself..in fact some of the animals might be smarter then her when she is done being worked on.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>29-10-2009, 21:34:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				It's a hierarchy thing, is what I'm saying. The government is made up of few, and the rest are the public masses. So the number in charge should be at least slightly smaller than those who are not in charge. I'm not saying 2:1 ratio but maybe 1.3-1.5:1 or something like that.<br><br>Oh, and I just thought of something else. Could we have it so that if there are pure-animal characters (like Raiga), they could have been brain-transplanted so that a human's brain was put in their body so that they have the same intelligence and memories of a human, but in the body of the animal? Just wondering if that might work for some people. I might play a character like that if that's something everyone's okay with.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>29-10-2009, 21:57:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I know what you're saying Mathim but the way this game seems to be heading, an owner/trainer will have scenes with an animal. Us players are already deciuding who will own whom, rather than having a pool of aniamls workers can drag a victim out of and molest... It sounds like it will be a 1:1 thing. If that happens the spare animals will be left awaiting screen time.<br><br>I'm not saying you're wrong, it just seems to me that that is the game that was planned; the 'claiming' of animals by owners tends to preclude the 'classroom' concept you're suggesting.<br><br>Perhaps we could abandon that and not have personal pets but try for a generic pool of animals and any worker can have a scene with any animal at any time? (following reasonable discussions of course)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>29-10-2009, 22:11:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				There are a lot of very interesting angles for people to toy with in this sort of setting.&nbsp; For example:<br><br><strong>Pure Animals:</strong>&nbsp; Just regular 'ole animals.&nbsp; Completely untampered by genetic technology.&nbsp; The sort of beasties you'd expect to find on a normal farm.<br><br><strong>Sentient Animals:</strong> Regular animals that have been tampered with until they have become fully sentient creatures.&nbsp; Does not necessarily mean that they are able to speak in human languages, but they would be able to understand it and act at a human or just-below-human level.<br><br><strong>Mind Transplanted Animals:</strong>&nbsp; What you've described in your post Mathim.&nbsp; Regular animals whose brains have been replaced with that of a human.&nbsp; The sort of victim who has undergone a treatment this drastic would have to come to terms with their new form and try to reconcile their intelligence with an animal's body.<br><br><strong>Humans:</strong>&nbsp; Boring!<br><br><strong>Genetically "Enhanced" Humans:</strong> Extra cocks?&nbsp; Hermaphrodites?&nbsp; Cat eyes, or enhanced reflexes?&nbsp; This category mostly includes humans who have been modified at their own request, like a number of the farmhands.<br><br><strong>Genetically Spliced Humans (Intelligent):</strong> Something Haibane was discussing earlier.&nbsp; Humans who have been altered to look like animals, but not necessarily to act like them.&nbsp; They would be treated like animals despite having a predominantly human-like form and an untouched human brain; demeaned, used, and humiliated into obedience.<br><br><strong>Genetically Spliced Humans ("Dumbed Down")</strong> Humans like Molly and Musco, who have been genetically altered into animalistic forms and have had their minds tampered with to make them act more like animals instead of people.&nbsp; Individuals that fall under this category believe themselves to be nothing more than animals, even if they retain the power of speech.<br><br><strong>Mind Transplanted Humans:</strong>&nbsp; The opposite of Mind Transplanted Animals, these humans have had their brains replaced with those belonging to animals.&nbsp; While most would be understandably bewildered by their new form, they are not capable of higher brain functions like a normal human.&nbsp; Particularly cruel games could be played by making the Animal-With-A-Human-Brain watch silently in horror as their old body is forced to do any number of demeaning things, such as run about without clothing, and so on.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>29-10-2009, 22:28:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				hey guys *green face*&nbsp; What I was actually thinking was a combination of the two for ownership/group.&nbsp; Basically there would be the pets, who of course would have a master, etc, and then the livestock would be free for just anyone to grab and stuff.&nbsp; I'll try to get an amy post in later today.&nbsp; Hai if you want to you can god mod Sally a bit, or I can do a short post that would just be how she would respond to the end of it and stuff, not really feeling up to a long post atm.&nbsp; And Hai and Chuu, any new people that come, you dont need my consent and such, you guys are helping me run this, feel free to approve them yourselves
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>29-10-2009, 23:14:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm not really interested personally in having a pet, I just want to supervise the transformations and such. That kind of stuff is more fun for me. But I also want to be able to impregnate the fertile females whenever they're ready. Did I already ask what's to become of the offspring or were we just going to not do anything about that?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>29-10-2009, 23:31:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm not that much into impregnation and offspring but if someone is I hope they speak up, Mathim, then the two of you could do some scenes together.<br><br>For me Shihong the 'Genetically Spliced Humans' both intelligent and dumbed down is what my kinks draw me towards.<br><br>Dusk, sorry to push for a post but I'm away now until Sunday evening so will post again then.<br><br>I was hoping for an answer from you on the other business that I forwarded you the PM from Chuu about but that will have to wait until Sunday night now as well unless you want to go ahead as per mine and Chuu's suggestion.<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>30-10-2009, 00:08:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well I noticed that most people who wanted to be altered were willing and able to be impregnated afterwards, so I don't think that'll be a problem.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>30-10-2009, 00:09:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				On the note of people not posting, well this is normal. When players have to wait for other players it tends to slow things down. Currently Danica and Amy are waiting on Alves to carry off Tara so Amy can bring in the fresh 'recruits'. Unless I just have Danica haul her off, which I could do, we are waiting on one player who is holding up everyone else. I am not blaming anyone, but this is a very normal circumstance. All we can do is either ignore this player and move on, which is not really fair, or we can just be patient and wait; which should only last so long as it will make other people loose interest after awhile. <br><br>So basically for now I am playing the waiting game. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>30-10-2009, 00:25:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				We have four people who have expressed an interest in joining the game. I'm talking to them now. If they join as farm workers, that's easy, they can live in one of the workers chalets outside the main house and can be assumed to have been on the farm already and only now have become active.<br><br>If players wish to join as victims we need a plausible story to introduce them. Everyone arriving all on the same day is a bit cheesy, so has anyone any ideas on a good way to introduce more transformees?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>30-10-2009, 01:39:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sometimes one would want people to vanish. Criminal, dangerous people. Those everyone just want of the grid. A helicopter drop of in the farm land. We got a cop why not a pilot? A farm hand pick up the package and there you go...new animal/pet character.<br><br>Also I almost take offence for humans being boring! On that place...it's bloody unique ^__^ Well bloody might be a bad word since there is no surgery involved...okay I'm ranting!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>30-10-2009, 09:48:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Heheh, I'll post as Alves now. Sorry for the wait, I've been addicted to this new MMO.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>30-10-2009, 22:33:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				We could have people be put in suspended animation/tranquilized and then shipped there rather than simply arriving the normal way. I mean, for most of the people, it sounds like they're happening to be captured/lured to the compound because they're so close, which I thought we were trying to avoid having happen because the frequency of disappearances in that area would raise suspicion with the authorities.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>30-10-2009, 22:54:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think that sentiment was more about locals. If I am correct, the people in the hummer were on a road trip, thus not local, and thus not really known enough to be noticed or missed. <br><br>As for Deserae, Danica's pet, she was nabbed in a city. Since this farm is more or less in the middle no where for its own security, and no city is likely nearby that means Danica had to go miles out probably like an hour or so to get to the nearest city. <br><br>That last bit is speculation of course, as I have no idea if anything like that has been discussed or not. It makes sense though...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>30-10-2009, 23:08:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Unless every square mile within twenty or so miles is considered private property...then that would basically eliminate suspicion because if anyone steps onto that property, well, we can say we invoked 'trespassers will be shot' and left the bodies to the wolves, LOL.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>01-11-2009, 19:47:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I clean forgot about the abduction to order part of this. Yes, people could be grabbed from anywhere in the world. I was more concerned though about how realistic is was for a lot of victims to show up all within the same day (which is what is going to happen if more players join).<br><br>Perhaps we need to slip in a conversation between Arroyo and Andrews that refers to their plans put in place some time ago to actively get a load more people now that she is ready to try her newest methods, today being the day said people arrive.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>01-11-2009, 23:42:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				hey guys, I'm starting to feel a bit better today.&nbsp; Hoping that means I'm on the mend.&nbsp; Gonna try to get posts out and make up for the time I was gone
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 01:01:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*hugs* welcome back sweetie. As I said in PMs you can do a very short Sally post if you prefer then I can wrap that scene up.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 01:09:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				It has just been decided jointly by the three GMs that DarkXanatos is no longer playing in the game. We will not go into details in public, it's not fair on him, so please don't ask.<br><br>EDIT: We'll get a post up soon that will remove Danica IC from the game. Everyone can play on, this should not disrupt anything.<br><br>Mayalee, sorry, Aoi was going to be trained by Danica wasn't she? We'll arrange another character to take care of her.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 05:06:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm sure Alves won't mind taking over ::)<br><br>Sucks about Dark but I guess that boat has sailed. Wonder how you guys will off her &gt;:)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 10:32:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Danica will have a good in-game reason to leave the farm, so the character will be fine.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 10:55:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I have no idea what's going on..but I don't have much of a big role anyway..o3o
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 10:57:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Make your damned human helper already :P We need ya!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 11:09:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				So I've edited my 2nd to last post and just posted again. Sorry about any confusion in the 2nd to last, Hai pointed out where I tripped over mahself.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 11:28:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Thanks!<br><br>If a dominant role suits you, Wolfy, by all means make up a farm worker. We'll have enough animals to train up soon.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 12:40:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hehehe. I can even imagine a submissive worker, though how they would get that job I can't imagine. I can see later on in the game, a sexually frustrated Holly attacking Musco.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 13:00:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That would be amusing, and yeah, instilling hyper-active libidos in the animals like Molly has, then torturing them by not giving them enough sex is a nice theme to pursue. Its a very good way to train a sub BTW (says this from personal experience :P )
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 13:11:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh, that one is for Wolfy: If possible, try and intercept Kanami on her way to the lab, so she at least gets to know him. That would be great if she can at least pet the dog first before eventually becoming his bitch&nbsp; ;D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 13:41:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Right. Wolfy to post before Kanami gets to the lab. Check.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 13:53:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Eek, I hope you're not directing the newbies in the direction of Alves and Tara. He'll have to drag her away very quickly ::)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 13:59:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Standing with your back to the front door, I assumed Alves turned left out of the house and went around back towards the stable block and barn? Rio is sending the fresh meat back over the bridge and then turning right around the lake (as you stand with your back to the house).<br><br>I imagine the guest chalets are somewhere well out of the way, perhaps beyond the little island in the lake? Security fencing would prevent guests getting near the training barn and stables that house Molly and Sally.<br><br>If you like we could also assume some time has passed between Alves leading Tara away and Rio coming out?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 14:01:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Alright, we'll go with the time thing.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 14:02:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oops, my bad. Did Alves lead Tara around to the right to the yard behind the house?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 14:03:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				The map is drawn from a very high aerial viewpoint, so I don't know if he went left or right, or what door he came out of anyways. He's just heading to the training barn.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 14:04:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I can do a bigger plan if you need it. But yeah, the main issue is the rest of the guests do not see or hear Tara being assaulted by Alves.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 14:06:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Nah, no need for another map. We can just use our imagination, and assume that either they were directed another way or that Alves managed to drag her away long before the others were sent on their way.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 14:22:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Posted, Oni, going to be transferring to the Training Barn now.<br><br>So I'm a little burned out right now, a little bit tired because it's so late/early. Any suggestions from you guys as to how I should start training Tara? &gt;:)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 14:30:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I always liked the picture in the Training Barn thread. Stripping naked, tying wrists up to a walking beam then getting her to exercise a bit, making her jump over those small hurdles in a circle... with the playful application of some whip. Pain, humiliation from nudity and exhaustion always opens up the mind to other suggestions.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 14:57:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Okay, DD - post here when you're ready for me to post at the barn.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 17:13:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Okay, Kanami is now waiting for wolfy's Raiga to approach her. On a sidenote, in order to present her to the others who will probably need to be talked into staying, I think it's only reasonable that Amy would probably give her the mental treatment first. I think a few characters want it the other way around, but yeah, Kanami should be broken down first.<br><br>At the same time, when I eventually bring Elizabeth into the game, she is to be operatively changed first. The point of her being transformed is to punish her, so she will be kept like a regular cow without being broken down (at least not immediately), to let her suffer for her curiosity. <br><br>Just thought I'd share that bit of my plans with ya.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 17:13:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Is there anything significant my character can be doing? I'm having a bit of difficulty following everything since we stuffed everything into the Farm House thread even though people weren't technically at the farm house when they started posting.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 17:38:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				o3o There we go.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 17:53:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2406674#msg2406674">Quote from: Mathim on 02-11-2009, 17:13:14</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Is there anything significant my character can be doing? I'm having a bit of difficulty following everything since we stuffed everything into the Farm House thread even though people weren't technically at the farm house when they started posting.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div> Soon Amy will bring Kanami to the lab. If she needs Alex he can be in that scene. If he's not needed he can go milk Molly or rape Sally or even go talk to the new arrivals and select a pet for himself from them (aas in discuss it with a player OOC).<br><br>Although Molly is still in the lower pasture thread with Musco, I see no problem with Alex doing a concurrent scene with her in the stables on the assumption that takes place when Molly goes there for milking later.<br><br>And yeah, I think we should have had an 'outdoors' thread from the start. If much happens at the guest chalets maybe we should set one up. I too dislike all this stuff that took place that wasn't actually anywhere near the farm house, but used the farmhouse thread.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 17:54:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2406673#msg2406673">Quote from: Chuukun on 02-11-2009, 17:13:01</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Okay, Kanami is now waiting for wolfy's Raiga to approach her. On a sidenote, in order to present her to the others who will probably need to be talked into staying, I think it's only reasonable that Amy would probably give her the mental treatment first. I think a few characters want it the other way around, but yeah, Kanami should be broken down first.<br><br>At the same time, when I eventually bring Elizabeth into the game, she is to be operatively changed first. The point of her being transformed is to punish her, so she will be kept like a regular cow without being broken down (at least not immediately), to let her suffer for her curiosity. <br><br>Just thought I'd share that bit of my plans with ya.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div> Thanks. This kind of info is very welcome and helps us all.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 17:55:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Is the outside going to allow Beastiality?...I think we have 2 threads that allow it..and three that don't..o3o...though that's just a guess.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 18:14:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think we should keep bestiality to the 'Lower' threads. Having a separate 'Outside' thread just helps us keep various on-site scenes out of the actual farmhouse.<br><br>The alternative is we call the farmhouse thread 'Farmhouse and Farm' so that everything's covered.<br><br>Do people have a preference? Rename the current thread or make a new one for the outdoor areas of the farm not covered by the house and other places?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 18:43:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				At this point I think renaming would be pointless. I'd rather have two separate threads but it's kind of late for that now unless we're going to go back and cut/paste everything over.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 18:45:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				We could get a mod to cut and paste the relevant ones over. I'm sure it would be okay.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 22:28:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				But with Danica now conspicuously absent, I wonder if that would make sense to edit anything. This is the problem I always have with group RPs, is that one person can make the entire flow go South. I know this isn't the case but it's so easy to disrupt the rhythm of things even with just one person.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 22:49:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Not sure what you mean, the Danica character didn't mess things up too badly. I thought the issue was the non-farmhouse posts being put into the farmhouse thread.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 22:53:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I didn't say she messed things up, I'm saying her becoming a ghost now means it might make more sense to go back and edit the posts to not include that character unless we know for sure someone else is going to take up the reins. Or not. I haven't group RPed in a while so I don't know how that works; we're relatively early in so deleting a character might not be that difficult, but I could be wrong.<br><br>Anyway, I decided to take my character over to the Lower Pasture and have some fun like you suggested Haibane.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 23:26:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Its okay about Danica. If you remember her main job is operating out in the field supervising the abduction of new victims. I just arranged it so that she got a call about some unspecified work and now she's gone. I expect some of her journeys abroad to check out potential new abductees might take weeks...<br><br>As to her two pets, my suggestion is we simply forget about them. Its not a big issue.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 23:32:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I agree; I still think having specific pets is inadvisable. Specific trainers perhaps, but after that, all bets should be off.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>02-11-2009, 23:40:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm tending to agree with you. Apart from cats and dogs I'm leaning towards the animals all living in the stables/pens and there they are fair game for any worker who wants some fun.<br><br>All you should do is check with the owning player first.<br><br>However if certain players definitely want their characters to be owned by other characters we should respect that; I'm just a bit wary of the bigger, more 'thudding' animals like horses, donkeys and bulls living indoors but still happy to join in the game most players want. A cute big-breasted girl-cow, pierced and with a bell curled up on the floor at the end of Rio's bed is a tempting image.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>03-11-2009, 00:39:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just a small idea because it will soon happen in the rp for the mind-breaking/conditioning:<br><br>I think that the enforcement of obeying or rather behaving properly can be a very effective tool to turn anyone into an animal rather easily. So maybe do something like strap those vibrating eggs onto ones body and hook that person onto a machine that reads the vital signs and brain functions and whenever it responds positively to a desired image (for example, say, grazing, getting milked or mating), the eggs buzz and so reinforce the desired mindset.<br><br>Carry this on for hours on end and it will probably have some result. Throw in a drug or two and I'd say it's guaranteed success.&nbsp; ;D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>03-11-2009, 01:03:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hell, it'd sure work for me.<br><br>What about Mark though? Hmm, maybe one of those 'male masturbator' tubes strapped to his man-bits that vibrates/sucks him when he sees pictures of gay dudes getting nailed in the ass by horses...? Muahaha.<br><br>And LOL, I loved that Mark Winsten come back. He is so going to suffer for pissing off Goran. *more evil chuckles*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>03-11-2009, 01:09:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hmm, maybe so... haven't thought much about that. Probably better that way...<br><br>Then again, after they witness what the mental factory has done to Kanami, I thought they all get stun-gunned the f*ck out and operated on immediately. Including the dumbing down process on those who need it. And after that, I don't think it requires such a sophisticated method to end the transformation, no?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>03-11-2009, 01:15:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Heh, I was joking about Mark, but yes, we need some way to condition him too.<br><br>And yeah, I envisaged a mass tranqu-ing session the next morning after Kanami performs for them all. It was good of Mathim to mention that tranq guns are standard equipment on the farm though a vet would probably have them anyway to knock out violent animals.<br><br>As to who gets mentally modified with, before or after the physical mods, each animal player needs to state that exactly. Also some players want the physical transformation to be done in stages, I assume over several days or weeks presumably alongside their mental collapse/training.<br><br>I think it will help if we all say who will be whose pet as well or be trained by whom, or if they are willing to play as 'common ownership' and not have a formal owner.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>03-11-2009, 01:40:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Lawl..Raiga knows his cues..:P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>03-11-2009, 02:42:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Okay I'm really out of character with Goran right now. It's hard following the non talking ex military guy. Yet I do believe Rio was the thing that made me want to fuel everything for I don't see Rio standing and stopping him. Actually I don't see anyone stopping him...maybe Mark as a bull...Coudl we have bull ride duels now?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>03-11-2009, 02:53:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh shit... We're just tying to get these freakin kids to the chalets!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>03-11-2009, 03:17:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				As long as Rio is there...Goran will keep his cool of as long as she's not planning on doing anything stupid or Mark doing anything bad. Also Chalets...that's where they'll be sleeping right?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Xanatos</strong> on <strong>03-11-2009, 06:19:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just a note, I do not give permission to use Danica/nor her pets anymore than has been used to remove her from the plot. So just let her disappear. This is just a friendly note, and do not worry I will not post in here anymore than just this post. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>03-11-2009, 10:11:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2408618#msg2408618">Quote from: Dokuro on 03-11-2009, 03:17:41</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">As long as Rio is there...Goran will keep his cool of as long as she's not planning on doing anything stupid or Mark doing anything bad. Also Chalets...that's where they'll be sleeping right?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div> We hope so. They seem a little reluctant to go there at the moment!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>03-11-2009, 10:17:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Still taking suggestions for the Training Barn :o
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>03-11-2009, 10:41:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Chuukun's idea was good.<br><br>In another game I just spent the first days showing my victim who was in charge by spreadeagling her from a ceiling beam and cropping her until she screamed for it to stop. I'd ask her who was in charge and she resisted so I cropped her some more. This went on until she was begging to be allowed to recognize my authority. It was a start.<br><br>Then on the 3rd or 4th day I began to pleasure her with powerful vibrators, having had her watch porn videos for an hour or two. I'd force her body towards orgasm and switch them off before she peaked, repeating this for about two hours until she was gasping and desperate. Finally by again getting her to accept that I was boss I brought her <em>so close</em> once more making her recognize my character's authority. When she did I let her peak. Then I went the other way and made her multiple come for about twenty minutes until she was screaming for it to stop.<br><br>Some suitable threats and promises had her in the palm of my character's hand within a week, assuming all sorts of submissive positions upon command in case she was whipped and doing pretty much anything on the promise of being given an orgasm or the threat of not being allowed one.<br><br>Some injections that raise the victim's libido help too.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>03-11-2009, 11:10:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yup. that would be one thing. To elaborate a bit on my idea, imagine the following:<br><br>The victim (I'll use Kanami as an example here) is restricted, either sitting in a chair or hanging from the ceiling, doesn't really matter. She gets hooked up to a machine that monitors her brainwaves and recognizes positive and negative feelings. Also she gets vibrating eggs stripped to her clit and nipples and a shock-cable at the back of her neck. Then she gets a visor and headphones and is constantly assaulted with visual and audible suggestions and every time her brain accepts them, the eggs will vibrate and give her a good feeling and so reinforce the image, if she rejects it, she will get a small electric shock. Throw in some drugs, one to heighten her libido and a caffeine drug so her brain definitely stays awake during those hours and you can pretty much leave her unsupervised for hours until you decide to see if she has learned the lesson.<br><br>I'd say whichever method is used depends on the person who is doing it and their preferences. Viscous people like Arroyo would probably whip rather then sit them in a chair while I think Amy would like her goods to be more or less undamaged.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>03-11-2009, 11:16:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				A good example of a mechanical hands off version while mine was a physical hands on one. Chuukun's method sounds like it would be faster once the subject began to respond positively.<br><br>I assume we can have a 'dungeony' area of the Training Barn and a cleaner 'laboratory' style area for when machinery and electrical equipment is needed.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>03-11-2009, 11:50:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I've finished, Oni. I'm not going to rush into things yet; I've got something simple in mind to begin with. Tara is going to try to stand, and he's going to shove her down again. Basically negative conditioning; You don't do shit unless I say so!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>03-11-2009, 15:25:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Can we check who is being trained by whom and who will end up as who's pet please?<br><br>ALVES = (trains) TARA (but otherwise common use)<br>AMY = (trains) KANAMI<br>GORAN = ?<br>RIO = (trains) LITA &amp; HOLLY (possibly)<br><br>? = MARK<br><br>Will any animal like to remain unclaimed so they can be used by anyone? I don't mind Rio's pets being borrowed by other workers at all and I'll probably get Rio to have Mark mount both Lita and Holly after he's converted just because it would be fun to watch.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>03-11-2009, 15:51:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just as a note, I'm fine with Tara being mounted/bred by any character/critter before or after her transformation.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>03-11-2009, 17:08:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I don't know if the doctors will permit that, it might interfere biologically with her alteration. ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>03-11-2009, 22:07:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				How does a hose reach into the middle of a field? And why would Alex carry one? Surely the logic is for him to find Molly, lead her back to her milking stall and hose her down outside in the yard?<br><br>Also *sigh* I'm getting more than a little tired of reminding people that there are ONLY THREE converted animals so far on The Farm. All the others failed/died, so referring to 'the other cow-conversions' is breaking the game. Grrrr. Snarl.<br><br>I wish people would read and take in the game info post. Its not difficult, or time consuming.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Winterborn</strong> on <strong>03-11-2009, 22:48:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Out of curiosity, and having not read all the way through this thread, are there full animals on the farm? Real cows, real pigs, real horses and so on?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>03-11-2009, 23:02:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yes, there are an unspecified number of ordinary animals used for food and recreation (such as horse riding). We have one full-on animal being role-played as a character as well, Raiga the dog played by Wolfy4226.<br><br>Some of the transformed humans are effectively animals too in that they have no freewill, Sally the pig being the most extreme example and Musco the cat being the next, though he can speak some words. Molly the cow seems to be the most sentient of the three humans so far converted; she can speak reasonably well and walk upright.<br><br>Where human or human-transformed characters have sex with full-animals we have reserved the Lower Stables and Lower Pasture threads for bestiality scenes. No bestiality is allowed elsewhere in the game, and of course no images, which are forbidden by site rules.<br><br>Take a look at the Game Info Thread (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50528.0) for a short history and background of the Farm and the Characters. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Mathim</strong> on <strong>03-11-2009, 23:10:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				This is getting annoying. I think I'll just quit while I'm ahead. I'm sure I won't be the last. Sorry folks. You just can't handle things in a polite and mature way when someone tries to be creative.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Wolfy</strong> on <strong>04-11-2009, 01:41:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				PM me when Raiga is needed..otherwise I'll be playing my new game..so..yeah..o-o..gonna be away for a bit..but I'm not really that important..&gt;_&lt; xD<br>So..yeah. o3o
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>04-11-2009, 01:58:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				A big young character coming huh? Well that might be nice a shorter but wider dude. Yet clearly one he can push around if I so please hehe. Nah, just joking. It's nice to have new people coming up and around. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>04-11-2009, 09:52:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ferrus didn't work out, unfortunately.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>04-11-2009, 15:53:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ha! Musco's a scream. Love it.<br><br>I'm wondering if we'll run into a logistical problem soon; I can forsee Amy/Kanami and Alves/Tara all being tied up for a while in their respective scenes. It looks like Goran/Holly might be having a scene, perhaps that could move to the Pasture so as to not clutter the farmhouse thread?<br><br>That leaves Mark, Lita and Aoi (though I think we've lost her) to kill time.<br><br>We need to occupy the guests all night, although we can clearly skip a big chunk of it. Might Mark go with Holly and Goran? I guess I can take Rio to the chalets and meet up with Lita (with or without Mark) to kill some time.<br><br>Anyone got any ideas?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>04-11-2009, 16:30:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				By the by, is there a separate thread for the "Lakeside Chalets"?&nbsp; That might reduce some of the clutter.&nbsp; For now I just have Musco following Rio because I know it will end...hilariously?&nbsp; Hehe
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>04-11-2009, 16:33:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				We don't have one at the moment, but it wouldn't be out of the question to make one.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>04-11-2009, 16:34:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yep, I really think we need an 'outside' thread which will include the chalets and other outside areas not covered by the pastures, etc.<br><br>WhiteDusk, can you make one please?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>04-11-2009, 18:52:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Okay everyone, me and Haibane just had a small talk regarding the flow of time on the farm. Currently, Tara is just about to be manhandled by Arroyo, Kanami is just about to experience the first part of her transformation and the newcomers are not even settled in yet.<br><br>In favor of the story, we can't continue on like this. There are others who are waiting to jump in and that simply can't happen if we are still not even close to be done with the first batch. So, we will slightly modify the procedure this is going to take place.<br><br>The characters undergo surgery to modify their bodies as desired. During the time of recuperation, they, or rather, their brains, will be hooked up to the "Clockwork Orange"-esque suggestion machine I detailed earlier. Keep that thing going over a month on people who are not trained to resist mental torture, you can pretty much assure they will be broken almost completely once they have recovered from surgery.<br><br>Any fun torture can come after that, be it to give the new animals a bit more training when needed or just for the fun of the workers.<br><br>Don't worry, Arroyo still can do whatever he wants to and Kanami can still get the first mind-suggestion-therapy by Amy so she can be presented to the other youths in the morning (maybe she was a test run by Amy so she could assure the machine really worked?). And if one is sadistic, one can also decide to not brainwash the people too much so they are still vaguely aware of what's coming, so there will still be lots of opportunities to roleplay the breaking of ones character later on. <br><br>But please keep in mind that this is to serve the game and give anyone interested in it a good time and not keep them waiting for their turn.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>05-11-2009, 02:01:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Added a 'Grounds and Farmland' (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=51924.0) thread.<br><br>At the moment I wasn't planning another Rio post since she's taking her time getting the chalet linen and I think Holly/Mark/Goran need a post or two each to see where they go. Also Rio would get to the chalets via the bridge and round the lake and Musco would have a hard time getting past Mark, etc over that bridge without being seen!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>05-11-2009, 02:19:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Time for some super stealthy kitty skills, haha!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>05-11-2009, 02:23:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				He is still a naked young man... I think even Musco might find a dirt road over a wooden bridge on a sunny day tricky! I'm sure he'll be fine, we just need to time things so that the car-load of guests isn't still hanging around by the Hummer when Rio and her follower come past.<br><br>I just want to give the car-load a chance to post once or twice each to get them out the way.<br><br>Also - Chuu, yes, I think considering the time it takes to use traditional methods to mentally break a victim, your brainwashing/conditioning method does seem very attractive.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>05-11-2009, 11:02:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				So has Mathim officially left? Are people jumping off the game already? :-(
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>05-11-2009, 11:09:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Mathim sadly has gone, yes. I was in a PM conversation with him yesterday but the situation wasn't salvageable unfortunately. WhiteDusk does not think Alex needs to be replaced. He can be assumed to be busy somewhere with some complex research project in the sub-basement in case Mathim chooses to return.<br><br>I fear we have lost Mayalee as well since she hasn't posted for ages and hasn't responded to my PMs.<br><br>It looks like Wolfy is losing interest. I've asked him if he'd like to play a male worker but no reply yet.<br><br>We have one player set up to join but he wants to play a victim and we need to get the current crop of victims processed before it makes sense for him to join. Two other people have responded with character sheets as farm workers, one male, one herm female but the process is slow...<br><br>I definitely want to carry on. I think the dynamics in this setting are very good and there are players here who inspire me and I love playing with them. If the game shrinks to about 5 or 6 players I'm not worried, we can still do the same themes only more intimately.<br><br>Someone to milk Molly would be useful. Could start a scene in the stables.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>05-11-2009, 11:26:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Dokuro, to the pasture!<br><br>If you want to throw Holly into the melting pot early, Hai, I'm sure we can have some fun with Molly.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>05-11-2009, 13:24:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2417255#msg2417255">Quote from: Darkly Dreaming Doomsday on 05-11-2009, 11:26:20</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Dokuro, to the pasture!<br><br>If you want to throw Holly into the melting pot early, Hai, I'm sure we can have some fun with Molly.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div> I think we need to get Kanami altered then expose the car-load to her next morning, then go for it. I can't see the benefit of having Holly see Molly before then, the freaking-out factor won't be so high since she's not seen Molly unaltered.<br><br>I guess Goran is our only spare worker who's free to milk Molly but Dokuro has begun a scene with Holly and Mark.<br><br>I can keep Rio busy with Lita in the chalets for now, with that damn cat lurking about.. LOL.<br><br>I think the pace setting scenes now are Alves/Tara and Amy/Kanami - they both determine when we can do the big surprise breakfast party. I'm not rushing you, take as much time and have as much fun as you like its just that the next stage in the game must follow those two. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>05-11-2009, 13:32:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I won't milk time but I'll be very thorough &gt;:) Maybe leave her overnight with a bloodied back.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>05-11-2009, 13:33:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Heheh. Nice posts there, BTW, thanks, that zooms things forwards perfectly.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>05-11-2009, 15:00:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				have successfully updated the floor plan pictures in Lab and Farm House
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>05-11-2009, 18:32:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Are you and me moving to the outside board Haibane?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>05-11-2009, 21:01:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Trying to think of a good pet name for Tara &gt;:)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>05-11-2009, 21:06:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Tammy? Then we'd got a Holly, Molly, Sally and Tammy....
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>05-11-2009, 21:09:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*still considering Cuddles for Kanami*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>05-11-2009, 21:11:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh, just as an aside, 'cow' was not one of the animals I put down for Tara's eventual species.&nbsp; I'd honestly forgotten exactly until I went looking for whether I'd posted a last name. ^_^&gt;
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>05-11-2009, 21:11:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Tammy is still a nice name... *pouts*<br><br>And hey, Kanami's name is completely up to Amy, so yeah... surprise me =D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>05-11-2009, 21:26:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Holly's name is also up for revision.<br><br>Also, Oni, I was leaning towards perhaps a dog for Tara. Thoughts? 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>05-11-2009, 21:41:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Dog would work - it would give Raiga something to do, too.&nbsp; &nbsp;::)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>05-11-2009, 21:43:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Seems like good ol' Raiga will be pretty happy pretty soon =D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>05-11-2009, 23:46:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2418035#msg2418035">Quote from: Transgirlenstein on 05-11-2009, 18:32:04</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Are you and me moving to the outside board Haibane?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div> Yes, and Mark too if he wants. And obviously Musco as well. If you want to do a post in that thread, Trip, perhaps with Lita setting off towards the chalets, I'll get Rio in there as well.<br><br>More bad news, folks. Mayalee has decided to leave. Apparently no-one was interacting with her character; she felt ignored.<br><br>I wonder if we could invite DecrepitDan to join with his character in her place?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>06-11-2009, 00:44:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hey, Chuu, what do you plan to do with Mark? Now that we've had a post of Holly driving away on her quad bike I guess his only option is to go with Lita? Can you let me know, and if it is with Lita, post, then I can do a Rio post. Thanks!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>06-11-2009, 10:45:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				If anyone has free time to NPC a farmhand and milk Molly I'd be up for it. Stables thread I guess.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>06-11-2009, 14:41:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				To be fair, with Mayalee, she only posted what, once? She wasn't initiating any interaction.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>07-11-2009, 01:33:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Okay since I'm out of town for a work related meeting I might be a bit slow until I get back home.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>07-11-2009, 13:21:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just to let you all know I'm waiting for Chuu to do a Mark post, then I'll know what content needs to go in my next Rio post.<br><br>The sudden end of the Alves/Tara scene worries me a bit! Oniya, you might have no scope now to post for a very long time, unless DDD, you want to time-skip Alves and Tara forwards to the next morning and play on that scene?<br><br>Don't worry about that conflicting with the next morning scene where Kanami is revealed, we can assume that takes place at a slightly different time so that Alves can be in both. I've done dual-appearance things in multiple scenes before in group games, so there's no stumbling blocks to it.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>07-11-2009, 13:37:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm about to head off, so any new post will come much later, but I was just trying to rush along because I thought we were trying to progress the story... Oops! I'm sure Alves could get bored later in the day and pay Tara a visit. He's not mean enough to leave her out there with no food &gt;:)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>07-11-2009, 14:39:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah, sorry about that... my bad by not explaining. We still have some Amy/Kanami stuff to do, obviously so perhaps the 4 players in those two scenes can agree how long to keep going, then when they've reached their logical conclusion we can skip to the next morning maybe.<br><br>Outside of those two important scenes Goran/Holly and Rio/Lita/Musco can keep going I expect as long as needed.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>07-11-2009, 15:37:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Alright, I have a question for everyone.&nbsp; Since Xanatos and&nbsp; Mayalee are no longer in the game, and they were the main two, do we want to now open up all threads to the possibility of bestiality, or keep it as is?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>07-11-2009, 16:13:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Interesting question. I'm fine with animals anywhere, and it will certainly give Wolfy more scope with Raiga and we could effectively dispense with the two 'lower' threads.<br><br>Downside is it could well restrict the appeal of the game to newcomers.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>07-11-2009, 16:19:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				thats why I am not making it my decision alone, and thought I would ask everyone first
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>08-11-2009, 11:05:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think we should keep them separated between regular Pasture and Lower pasture, like we have now, in case we recruit in the future and not everyone's fine with bestiality.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>08-11-2009, 12:00:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				One vote to each side so far. Anyone else got an opinion?<br><br>Still waiting for you to post Chuu sweetie *hugs*<br><br>EDIT: I just read this (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=48532.0) and it struck a strong note with me. Some excellent points there to bear in mind in a group game. Do please read, and feedback would be good too.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>09-11-2009, 23:09:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry, Chuu, I don't understand the last part of Mark's post:<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Mark continued to stand there on the way to the chalets.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div> Is he staying by the house or going to the chalets?<br><br>Guys, I think we need to up the posting too, things have gone way too quiet in the last few days (I know we've been waiting for a player or two but the rest of you can post).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>09-11-2009, 23:15:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				He's standing somewhere between the chalets and the house... didn't have an exact map in my head when I wrote it...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>09-11-2009, 23:26:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Thanks, that's all I needed to know, and all Shihong needs as well I suspect!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>10-11-2009, 18:59:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I've been feeling pretty uninspired lately but I'm working up the will to post.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>10-11-2009, 19:01:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Gonna write up a post with Musco later.&nbsp; I'm sure he'll find a way to get up close to the chalets, even if getting inside is a bit...tricky. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>11-11-2009, 22:39:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry, me and TrippingSerpent did so many posts but it doesn't seem to have tripped you up Shihong.<br><br>Also, LOL, is it just me or does Musco seem a lot like Gollum?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>11-11-2009, 22:46:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				If Gollum was young, hot, fuckable, and had cat ears!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>13-11-2009, 13:42:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I detect a dying game. Is anyone going to post?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>13-11-2009, 15:46:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				With Kanami, I'm stuck with waiting for thewhitedusk. As for Mark, I don't really know what he should be doing...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>13-11-2009, 16:46:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				sory I havent posted lately, things have been hectic.&nbsp; Im gonna get a post out here in a few with Amy.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>13-11-2009, 17:01:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Mark could interact with Lita and Rio I guess. I was planning on taking Rio back to the farmhouse to cook dinner, the two of them could help her out.<br><br>Or Mark could be assumed to go to the chalets and just crash out, possibly sulking over Holly.<br><br>I'm waiting for a Lita post in the chalets. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>13-11-2009, 18:07:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2445665#msg2445665">Quote from: Haibane on 13-11-2009, 13:42:55</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I detect a dying game. Is anyone going to post?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>You know, this game sounded fun when I read it in the Groups Wanted, but the whole thing about being told to 'speed up/slow down/speed up' has really soured me.&nbsp; <br><br>Edited for clarity.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>13-11-2009, 18:40:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yes, it does have a rather bad slowing down problem.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>15-11-2009, 06:32:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry for the holdup in posting, I've been generally uninspired lately, and I haven't been sleeping at the 'right' times. And by that, I mean I've been going to bed at a decent time and getting up before noon. This might sound cool but by 10 PM I'm exhausted and I really don't like posting in my games until well during the night.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>15-11-2009, 14:43:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				hey all.&nbsp; I just wanted to ask that everyone that hasnt officially left yet still wants to keep this going right?&nbsp; I'm hoping they do.&nbsp; I know things are going a bit slow, but I am still enjoying the game, and I am hoping others are too.&nbsp; If not, we could always talk about how we could try to improve it.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>15-11-2009, 20:26:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yes, I want to keep this game going :-)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>15-11-2009, 22:06:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I definitely want to play on, even in a reduced version.<br><br>When I get asked to help run group games I help run them in the style I have used countless times and which I find works. If people are not comfortable with that its hard to suggest a solution since I've seen games that have been GM'd in a 'hands off' style fail as well, so my style is to try and encourage people by frequent OOC posts and PMs. I 'manage' games closely. I can only apologise if this style of running a game does not work for you but its not something I'm able to change.<br><br>I do not think Wolfy4226 will be back, he is not answering my PMs, so we can write off Raiga now too.<br><br>DecrepitDan was the most enthusiastic of the other applicants so we could bring in his character now in place of Aoi.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>16-11-2009, 13:42:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm still in this game as long as it keeps going. Due to some personal things that steals time I may be offline more then before but even if I'm in the silent darkness stand I'll step out and with glory move on with you all.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>16-11-2009, 16:09:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm also still around, but due to near total lack of inspiration for Mark (feel free to npc him for the time being, or at least, until I say otherwise) and lack of a partner to keep Kanami going, I haven't participated in this story as much as I would have liked to...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>16-11-2009, 16:16:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm sure WhiteDusk will be back.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>16-11-2009, 16:52:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm here, I just thought you were posting us arriving in the next thread, I did not realize it was my post<br><br>Edit<br>So were going to the regular stables for now right?&nbsp; And what are we gonna do since it looks like Wolfy has quit?&nbsp; She gonna take Kanami herself then?&nbsp; Just wanting your input Chuu before I post
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>16-11-2009, 17:52:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah, that's fine with me. In fact, I'd say it's just as good as a dog, I'd say =D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>16-11-2009, 17:55:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Still here
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>16-11-2009, 17:58:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm still here of course, and sending Musco over to the stables for some fun time.&nbsp; &gt;:)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>16-11-2009, 17:59:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ooh, or maybe instead of Raiga, Amy lets Musco loose on her in the morning... could also work...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>16-11-2009, 18:01:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				alright, well now I am a bit stuck.&nbsp; I got Amy going to the stables, I have Musco playing with Sally in the Stables..., do we just keep Amy and Kanami in the lab and edit the last posts slightly, or do I drag her to the lower stables instead, or what?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>16-11-2009, 18:04:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I don't think anyone has actually posted in the Lower Stables yet, so that could be a good place to start if you want a blank slate for roleplaying.&nbsp; I just posted in the Stable thread since that's where Sally's previous encounter happened before.<br><br>Also, Musco would be more than willing to provide any dominant, animalistic fucking that Raiga is unable to give! :D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>16-11-2009, 18:07:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				well, we could keep it in the labs, that would require you editing your post to say something else... maybe begin the conditioning already or have some fun with Kanami first, your call.<br><br>Then I could edit mine accordingly.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>16-11-2009, 18:08:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				alright, will do
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>16-11-2009, 18:10:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I should get a Holly post in tonight. Any ideas what Alves should be doing now that Oni has dropped?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>16-11-2009, 18:12:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				edited last post in lab, should get to sally sometime today, hopefully soon
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>16-11-2009, 18:23:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				edited my post as well...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>16-11-2009, 18:34:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				The stables thread doesn't imply one building. There is a cowshed, a horse stable, Sally's pigsty, probably Raiga's kennel area, maybe a sheep enclosure, tack sheds, equipment stores, all kinds of actual buildings within the single thread, so I don't see a problem with Musco raping Sally in her pigsty while in another building Amy deals with Kanami and the two couples do not know of each other's presence.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>16-11-2009, 18:42:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				it wasnt necessarily that, it can be hard sometimes to keep track of multiple characters and posts in a single thread, one of the things that happened with a different group game, where some of us had 3+ characters in one room and stuff, and it often got hard to keep track, when to reply, etc etc
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>16-11-2009, 19:47:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh, okay. Personally I have no trouble with that, and I find it encourages players to read the other players posts.<br><br>You *are* reading other players posts/threads, right? ;)<br><br>But if you'd rather stay separate that's not a problem.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2455656#msg2455656">Quote from: Darkly Dreaming Doomsday on 16-11-2009, 18:10:25</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I should get a Holly post in tonight. Any ideas what Alves should be doing now that Oni has dropped?</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div> Has she dropped? She hasn't said so. Oni? Hello?<br><br>But if you do need to move scenes with Alves, he could go and milk Molly if that is not beneath him, or he could breeze back into the house and keep Rio company while dinner cooks, or he could take a walk and go talk with Mark or Lita.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>16-11-2009, 19:54:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				As I said before:<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2446080#msg2446080">Quote from: Oniya on 13-11-2009, 18:07:55</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">You know, this game sounded fun when I read it in the Groups Wanted, but the whole thing about being told to 'speed up/slow down/speed up' has really soured me.&nbsp; <br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I have already notified both thewhitedusk and DarklyDreamingDoomsday.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>16-11-2009, 20:07:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Thank you for letting the group know.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>16-11-2009, 20:24:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I am reading other peoples posts, but it just ended up getting too confusing in the last game lol, and it wasnt just me getting confused.&nbsp; I think Chuu knows what I am talking about.&nbsp; Though he only had 2 characters in Godrics
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>16-11-2009, 21:01:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think the problem in "Godrics Academy" was that many characters hinged on one character, namely Godric. He went poof, everyone was left hanging. This can happen on a smaller scale as well.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>16-11-2009, 21:32:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I haven't spent too much time looking at Godric's although I knew it was going on and saw that it exploded into huge size very quickly and almost as quickly died down again. Not having looked at many of the threads there I got the impression there were quite a lot of players.<br><br>I think here things can be more controlled and less frenzied and having myself played with twenty players using a single thread in a game on another site, providing the posting rate doesn't go mental its reasonably easy to follow.<br><br>Here we have six players and eleven characters so if we assume those 11 are in 3 or 4 different threads it looks like its more manageable that Godric's so you could monitor each thread.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>17-11-2009, 18:34:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				anyone ever had a character get away from them, and all you were doing was typing what they were telling you to, not really realizing what they were doing until you posted?&nbsp; Lol thats what Amy has been doing with me, and I just finally realized what her plan is.&nbsp; She's trying to manipulate Kanami into thinking she wants this, that she wants to be with Amy, and will do anything to achieve it willingly.&nbsp; Soo much more twisted when you make the person want it done to them lol
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>17-11-2009, 18:40:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hehe, I know what you mean. That's what they call "Getting a feel for the role". Initially, I also thought it would be pretty a-okay if Kanami more or less has to be forced into that chair to get her brainwashed...<br><br>But then it sorta grew into this and now I think it would be a bit more natural if she would readily agree to this (maybe not knowing what it all entails, but she would probably not even ask for every detail anyway).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>18-11-2009, 19:16:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Mmm, Kanami is a hot, slutty little thing isn't she? Gonna be fun passing her round from cock to cock...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>18-11-2009, 19:31:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hm sounds fun ^^
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>18-11-2009, 19:40:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Indeed it does =D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>18-11-2009, 19:49:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				All sit in a circle, strap Kanami on all fours to a lazy susan and spin her round... whoever faces her behind when she stops, mounts her. Continue game until all people with penises are exhausted (never mind whether Kanami likes it or not!)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>18-11-2009, 19:56:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, don't you forget that Kanami has a mouth as well... kinda like a spin the slut, huh? ^^ only with 2 winners... no wait, make that 3
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>18-11-2009, 19:59:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I like the idea of leaving the mouth open so she can scream. Especially when Bull/Mark gets going. O_o
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-11-2009, 13:00:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				A quickie note to say I'm away over this weekend. Heading off now and will be home Sunday night but probably too late to post, so officially back Monday.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>23-11-2009, 01:15:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Okay I've been gone with some school things and I was out of town but I like what all of you have cooked up during that absence. Well the life without all exotic reading I can do here haven't been all to boring either. So we need a huge roulette wheel somewhere then. How sweet indeed.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>23-11-2009, 01:27:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I agree. Amy and Kanami are very hot together. Kanami is a lovely little trollop.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>23-11-2009, 01:31:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Let me know when is a good time for Lita to make her way back to the farm house.&nbsp; so we can get to the uh..good stuff
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>23-11-2009, 01:33:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				She can head over now. I don't forsee any converted animals being visible or brought there any time soon.<br><br>Then Mark could wander in and when Goran has finished doing Holly, they can return. By then I should think Kanami will be well mounted and wired up to the Orgasmatron or whatever the brain-washing machine is called. And we can zip past dinner to morning.<br><br>Sally and Musco should still be busy?<br><br>Doomsday? Any thoughts on using Alves for anything?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>24-11-2009, 17:31:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry guys, I know I need to get a Rio post out and in fact I wrote a long one earlier but when I went to post E was doing its daily backup and I lost the lot which rather dented my enthusiasm. I'll try and rewrite it soon.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Chuukun</strong> on <strong>24-11-2009, 22:57:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				aww, that sucks. Don't worry, I know exactly what it's like to lose multiple paragraphs to those damn maintenance periods...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>27-11-2009, 10:50:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Heh, sorry for not being around guys. I celebrated my birthday a couple of days ago and Thanksgiving just yesterday, and besides that I've been museless and just generally unenthusiastic about Elliquiy. I'm dropping a lot of games to give myself some breathing room, but rest assured Down on the Farm I plan to continue.<br><br>I'll get a post up for Goran... Either tonight, if I'm up for it, but hopefully before the weekend.<br><br>I'm not quite sure what to do with Alves. I'm not gonna drop him but I'm not sure if he's needed anywhere. Thoughts?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>27-11-2009, 12:42:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50241.msg2489638#msg2489638">Quote from: Darkly Dreaming Doomsday on 27-11-2009, 10:50:10</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Heh, sorry for not being around guys. I celebrated my birthday a couple of days ago and Thanksgiving just yesterday, and besides that I've been museless and just generally unenthusiastic about Elliquiy. I'm dropping a lot of games to give myself some breathing room, but rest assured Down on the Farm I plan to continue.<br><br>I'll get a post up for Goran... Either tonight, if I'm up for it, but hopefully before the weekend.<br><br>I'm not quite sure what to do with Alves. I'm not gonna drop him but I'm not sure if he's needed anywhere. Thoughts?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div> Happy birthday for 2 days ago and happy thanksgiving for yesterday - those two together must make for a fun week! I quite understand when the inspiration well runs dry, I'm in a small dry spot at the moment too. Life is complicated right now and the mental juice for creative writing gets wrung out by the other stresses and strains.<br><br>I was thinking about Alves as well. After Amy is done in this scene with Kanami I guess he could go talk to her and have a general discussion about processing the new batch (which is just Kanami, Holly, Lita and Mark now) and who might become what or some mumbo-jumbo about the processes and techinques involved, if you think the science would interest him.<br><br>Without the Tara character Alves has no female to take charge of does he? I could go back and ask DecrepitDan if he'd like to bring in the female char he had written up. Alves could take on a supervisory role of sorts, he can always go torture Sally or milk Molly or he could come into the house and join in the pre-dinner drinks, LOL.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>30-11-2009, 12:33:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm so sorry to the players who are waiting for a Rio post, I'm just up to my neck in stress and real life nastiness at the moment and haven't written anything for any of my games for coming up to a week. I'll do my best to write as soon as things become a bit less insane here.<br><br>Once again, sorry.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>01-12-2009, 10:23:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ok, I posted with Holly AND Alves, woot! Let me know if I accidentally skipped over anything too major.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>02-12-2009, 00:53:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Alright.&nbsp; So Kanami is now hooked up.&nbsp; I think atm the only two scenes we have before the next day are dinner, and holly/gorran.&nbsp; So were doing good so far guys, things are coming along great. =)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>02-12-2009, 00:58:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I know I'm needed for a farmhouse post... Sorry, I'm just really struggling to write that. Feel free to have Lita, Mark and Alves interact at dinner and NPC Rio a bit if you need too.<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>09-12-2009, 09:53:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Doom, you still with us?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>09-12-2009, 21:20:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah, just sort of... Hovering around. I should get a post up tonight because I'm definitely not going anywhere with a foot of snow outside.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>10-12-2009, 12:55:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				While Doom is planning a post, Ms. Andrews could certainly post there... we could get a convo going around the dinner table.<br><br>I think really though we are waiting for the pasture scene to be concluded then we could talk about how to move the game forward to the next morning.<br><br>Still no word from Shihong, WhiteDusk?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>10-12-2009, 14:49:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				He said that RL was just hectic atm, but he doesnt plan on dropping out
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>10-12-2009, 15:01:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That's good - well, not his hectic RL situation, but its good he'll return. I like Musco a lot - it would be nice to use him to rape the new pets.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>10-12-2009, 15:02:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				if he doesnt get back soon enough though, we may have to cut the sally scene short
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>10-12-2009, 15:07:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sure, yes. It's a pity but at least its not plot-relevant.<br><br>I think the Sally and Molly characters are useful if a player wants a side scene and can go do a bit or rape or milking or bathing or such if they're not needed elsewhere in another scene or if they want an extra bit of fun - I don't have a problem with, say, Alves for example, being involved in a main scene in the house while he also has a scene with one of them at the same time.<br><br>I guess Sally and Molly can be brought out later to amaze and scare the new arrivals if we want, or raped in front of them to show them what their future lives will be like... but yeah, they're disposable characters really I guess.<br><br>Musco on the other hand will be very useful later so I hope Shihong gets on top of RL soon.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>10-12-2009, 18:54:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah, so... I know its not really necessary, but at the moment the guests and hosts are just sitting at the table with drinks and some pre-dinner snacks such as garlic breads and nachos. Rio won't serve the main food until Holly and Goran arrive - it'd be rude to start without them.<br><br>So yeah, that's all. A little technical thing! Please carry on! *hugs all round*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Shihong</strong> on <strong>10-12-2009, 19:42:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think Musco can be brought in later when he's needed, sorry for dropping off before the Sally scene could even begin.&nbsp; I'm still swamped, but if the tan little catboy is required for something, I'm sure I can get some posts in.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>15-12-2009, 00:09:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I hate having an itchy nose...I can't go five minutes without sneezing. Maybe it's my nose sign of telling my apartment is dusty. Any ways I just wanted to give a heads up that during the holidays and a week before I might be hard to find around here. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-12-2009, 00:33:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hmn, how are we doing here? Are we still going?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>22-12-2009, 00:39:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think so, just mainly waiting on Doom
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Doomsday</strong> on <strong>22-12-2009, 09:36:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Urk. Things have been tough here... It's not that I don't have the time, but I don't have the privacy... We've been hosting friends and family all month and I really don't like to do this stuff when everybody is pacing around me.<br><br>I hope this all clears up by holidays end... I'm so sorry guys.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-12-2009, 13:56:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I have a few games that are noticeably slowing down now due to the holidays. It seems we all like this game and the possibilities are good for fun later. Perhaps we could just take it slow over the holidays and pick up again when we have the opportunity?<br><br>If its quiet though I do like it when people drop by the OOC chat to just let us know they are still around, even if you can't post.<br><br>*offers everyone who's stressed out some pre-Christmas hugs*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>27-12-2009, 22:21:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hm...<br><br>Well, if we don't get some posts soon, or some response in the OOC thread it's looking like this game is either dead or needs a serious rethink with fewer players.<br><br>Thoughts?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>28-12-2009, 23:52:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm still in but it does need a kick in the pants
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>01-01-2010, 03:07:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think this game is dead. I'm taking the threads off my bookmarks. If anything happens would someone kindly PM me please? Thanks.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>01-01-2010, 08:17:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hey guys, sorry I havent been around much over the holidays, things have been crazy as heck.&nbsp; Don't give up on this yet though. I have an idea to keep this boat afloat.&nbsp; But first, I want to make sure that Haibane, Chuukun, and Transgirlenstein are still interested.&nbsp; I need at least you three to keep this alive.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>02-01-2010, 18:07:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Still am
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>04-01-2010, 23:29:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				As I said in my PM to you Dusk, I'm still here and would love to play on even in a reduced sized game.<br><br>Happy to play both Rio and Molly (I especially like playing Molly!)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>05-01-2010, 10:21:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				well Chuu no longer wants to be a part, but there are at least two others interested in joining up
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>05-01-2010, 12:16:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hm, Chuu's Kanami character was pretty central to the story, sadly. I'm not sure it would work as well with new characters...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dokuro</strong> on <strong>12-01-2010, 14:16:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm around still but it's clearly dead. It's sad but the truth yet if I'm needed I can stick around.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>12-01-2010, 14:55:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah, I think it's time to call it a day on this.<br><br>Perhaps next time we should jump immediately into the conversion process... I think the long introduction section with everyone arriving went on too long and of course there is the bane of all group games - a scene that has too many people present at once and which dies because we all sit and wait weeks for one player to post who isn't going to.<br><br>No-one's fault, its just a sad fact of RP life. Maybe scenes should be kept to 3 or 4 characters at most.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Transgirlenstein</strong> on <strong>12-01-2010, 16:02:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				We could just retry to whole thing but start it much sooner, as Haibane suggested.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>12-01-2010, 18:21:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I was most saddened and upset to hear Chuu had left, Kanami was the key to the story really and the effect next morning when the others saw her would have been a major part of the game.<br><br>Well it seems like Lita is the only victim left. We could start a "new" game using these threads and characters but doing something completely fresh... Dusk, might Chuu be encouraged to return and play only Kanami? If we had one more new player join that gives Rio, Andrews and Goran as three workers with three victims.<br><br>There was a player who mentioned being converted to a chicken which struck me as rather too odd for my taste but surely there's a player out there who could go for something more traditional like a cat, or if male, a bull.<br><br>Have you heard from Shihong recently Dusk? I thought he played Musco superbly.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>thewhitedusk</strong> on <strong>14-01-2010, 20:06:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I have not heard from him.&nbsp; And Chuu told me that he has completely lost interest in the game.&nbsp; &nbsp;I have been wracking my brain for ideas to get this going again, but maybe starting over fresh is the best idea.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>14-01-2010, 22:39:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*hugs*<br><br>I'm sorry to see it die. It had lots of potential.<br><br>Well please keep me in the loop, a PM would be best I think.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>The Great Triangle</strong> on <strong>22-01-2010, 23:34:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry to rub in this game being dead, but I figure some interested party might run across this picture and be inspired:&nbsp; &nbsp;<br><br><br><br>(http://xpiroro.free.fr/pictures/ghornisse5.jpg)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kate</strong> on <strong>01-01-2011, 06:40:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				if any feel like resurrecting this theme pm me :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Down on the Farm: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Oniya</strong> on <strong>01-01-2011, 06:44:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				You'd be better off posting a whole new idea thread, seeing as it's been over a year since this particular group game died.
			</dd>
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