Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC
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				Title: <strong>Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 00:46:27</strong>
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				Wham-bam, here we go. So, does anyone have plot concepts they'd like to discuss?
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 01:01:57</strong>
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				I supposing youll be giving the set up in the first post of where Aang exactly is going to start/who he cane exactly interact with? Was Aang just let out? or has he been up and about for a time. I'd imagine that Azula would probably be all over Aang for some time huh?
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 01:04:24</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7782212#msg7782212">Quote from: Karma on 25-02-2013, 00:46:27</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Wham-bam, here we go. So, does anyone have plot concepts they'd like to discuss?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Woot the official OOC thread. I think I am OK on both my characters at the moment. I really want to let Katara play out I don't want to pre plain her out. I may talk to you about Zuko when it becomes more relevant.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 01:04:57</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7782273#msg7782273">Quote from: apygoos on 25-02-2013, 01:01:57</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I supposing youll be giving the set up in the first post of where Aang exactly is going to start/who he cane exactly interact with? Was Aang just let out? or has he been up and about for a time. I'd imagine that Azula would probably be all over Aang for some time huh?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>With how this world developed, Azula probably didn't even believe in the Avatar until he woke up, honestly.&nbsp; From her perspective that was likely a child's story like the Painted Lady.&nbsp; She sees him as a thing Zuko is using to build false hope amongst the Resisty.<br><br>I don't think she'd ever openly voice those opinions in full court, or anything, though... given that it would be like a Medieval King coming out and saying "Jesus is a lie!"&nbsp; The spirituality of their people is a way to control them, and she'd be aware of that.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 01:07:44</strong>
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				so perhaps a level of awe? even if it was only skin deep, then she realizes how gullible and vulnerable to subtle influence he really is....does everyone in this RP have skype? we could make a chat group and have at typing it out there. either way, this works.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 01:30:39</strong>
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				I can't wait. I am not sure I should be as excited as I am for a game but I have really high hopes and I can see this being both very enjoyable and vastly entertaining!!!
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 01:43:08</strong>
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				Is anyone not familiar with Legend of Korra?
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 01:43:53</strong>
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				i saw the first season
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 01:44:49</strong>
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				I have seen it through thus far
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 01:45:11</strong>
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				Cool, then you guys know Asami.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 01:49:54</strong>
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				Yep 
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AribethAmkiir</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 01:54:16</strong>
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				Not sure that these are plot concepts but there's a few questions I think need to be answered still, most likely in IC:&nbsp; 1) what events have made Zuko a charismatic leader?&nbsp; If we take Zuko at the beginning of the show not many people would willingly follow him.&nbsp; Through his quest to find the Avatar he grew, thanks to Iroh's influence, and became a capable leader.&nbsp; If Aang doesn't wake up and just remains submerged in an iceberg while Osai and Azula conquer the Earth Kingdom, what exactly has happened to Zuko to transform him into the person he is when the game begins?&nbsp; Also, I'm a bit confused with Zuko's claim as the "rightful heir to the Fire Kingdom".&nbsp; Did Osai restore his position or did something else happen to help Zuko claim that honorific?<br><br>Seriously, we take Aang out of the picture and a whole lot changes.<br><br>Also, about Aang.&nbsp; He was frozen for 100 years in an iceberg and didn't age a day in the show.&nbsp; If Katara and Sokka didn't free Aang from the iceberg when they did, how is Aang the same age as everyone else?<br><br><br>Just a few quandaries I had.<br><br>As for Toph.&nbsp; I think she should be seen as a lady befit of her station and place within Azula's court.&nbsp; If she'd never run away with Aang and gang, she would've remained with her parents.&nbsp; Azula's interference would remove Toph from her overprotective parents, but I don't see Azula allowing Toph to behave or act in a way that could bring embarrassment to Azula.&nbsp; What's more, with Azula on her side, Toph's need to rebel and act out against her parents would be subdued.&nbsp; After all, if she was recognized for the great Earth bender she is and elevated to a position above her parents and the other nobility, what's left to rebel against?&nbsp; This, of course, isn't going to make Toph nice.&nbsp; "Might makes right", after all, and being the world's greatest Earth bender comes with a lot of might.&nbsp; While she might appear to be a lady, she would still be hedonistic.&nbsp; Her tastes would simply be more refined.&nbsp; Sleeping on the ground and stuffing Appa's shedded fur in her shirt just wouldn't do it for her any more.&nbsp; I see Toph being loyal to Azula, just as she was to Aang in the series.&nbsp; She'd also likely see Azula's cause as right and just.&nbsp; Hell, it's the first time the world has had peace in 100 years.&nbsp; Also, seeing Azula conquer Ba Sing Se without firing a single shot (I'd assume that would still happen with or without the Avatar) and not traveling with Aang would likely have kept Toph from learning about some of the atrocities that occurred in the war.&nbsp; Of course, by the time she learned about Lake Laogai, she'd already formed a belief that there was a need for such a place.<br><br>I also think that Ba Sing Se should have a large population of people who've been hypnotized/brainwashed into accepting the way things are.&nbsp; Which would help give a veneer to Aang, Toph, and anyone else that things are "good".<br><br><br>Not sure I've seen the entire season of Legend of Kora.&nbsp; In fact, I'm pretty sure I'm missing some of the beginning and middle.&nbsp; Can't say I've been as impressed as I was with The last Air bender.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 02:01:21</strong>
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				I think where Aang is concerned, we were just saying that he'd be that age for the purposes of gameplay... to keep him within the age limits of the site.&nbsp; Just assuming he got frozen at 16 instead of younger.<br><br>I do agree with you on Toph.&nbsp; Azula wouldn't want a brutish goon running around in her carefully selected (and so far, all female) cabinet of advisers and officials... she'd probably view it as disgusting and unbecoming.&nbsp; But, I don't think she'd want to temper too much of Toph's passion or violence, either.&nbsp; A Toph that enjoys her work is a Toph useful to Azula... but I could definitely see her making an effort to "civilize" the girl as time had gone on.<br><br>Toph also represents a unique problem to Azula in that she has to control Toph through active deception... since Toph is the one person she can't just send over to Laogai for reprogramming.<br><br>I'm not gonna lie, though, I'm confused why I'm in Ba Sing Se... I'd been prepping my opening post for the Fire Nation... *laughs*<br><br>Also, I've only seen 1 episode of Korra, so I'm pretty sure not too much is riding on that.&nbsp; Or hoping so, anyways.<br><br>EDIT:&nbsp; Missed one I could have answered.<br><br>Zuko is claiming "rightful heir".&nbsp; He doesn't <em>technically </em>have the right to do so, but he's saying "Look, I'm the only male son of Fire Lord Ozai... and I'm the oldest.&nbsp; I should be the one on the throne."&nbsp; It doesn't hurt that his sister is mocking the law by taking a circus-acrobat wife instead of a noble-warrior husband, pretty much saying "fuck you, I'll produce heirs when I fucking feel like it" to the nation.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 02:24:49</strong>
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				&gt;what events have made Zuko a charismatic leader?<br><br>We haven't discussed the specifics of this, but in my estimation, growing out of his teens combined with Iroh's influence have had a strong impact on his personality. It's the lack of Aang that contributes to Zuko's continued severe insecurity despite his outward actions. Essentially, he only <em>appears</em> to have improved.<br><br>&gt;Zuko's claim as the "rightful heir to the Fire Kingdom"<br><br>Legally, he's still an exile. However, the events of the Sozin's Comet invasion have led a lot of people to view Zuko as properly wronged and a much better alternative to the tyranny of Azula.<br><br>&gt;Aang<br><br>He's just arbitrarily aged up, yeah.<br><br>&gt;Toph<br><br>I agree completely with your assessment. What she does behind closed doors is completely up to her, of course.<br><br>&gt;Korra<br><br>All you really need to know is that Asami is from 70 years in the future and no one in this world but her is aware of that.<br><br>&gt;Azula in Ba Sing Se<br><br>That's my bad. I got stuck on the image of Azula in the Earth throne and didn't really think it through. So, instead, Azula sets up in the Fire Nation, with Ba Sing Se as a very strong pro-Azula stronghold. Asami is currently tasked with the construction of Imperial City, a monument to Azula's reign and eventual new location of the throne. So, at this point, I guess the group I said was in Ba Sing Se is actually in the Fire capital right now, as that's the center of power.<br><br>&gt;Aang's unfreezing<br><br>Asami popped into this timeline on the same day that Aang would have been discovered by Katara and Sokka. While this prevented them from discovering Aang, the "shockwave" so to speak cracked his icy shell, with it eventually breaking open four years later. 
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AribethAmkiir</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 03:20:34</strong>
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				Guess I missed Asami's inclusion in the story.&nbsp; <br><br>Is there a reason it is Asami and not one of the other inventors that are in the timeline?&nbsp; <br><br>Seeing how drastically different the setting of LOK is compared to TLA I don't see how she fits or what she does for the story.&nbsp; I guess though, Asami's presence combined with the Dai Li metal benders is meant to create a setting that brings the TLA timeline closer to that of LOK, which I can't say I'm a huge fan of.&nbsp; <br><br>Is the game meant to be more steam punk than fantasy?
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				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 03:24:29</strong>
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				No, Asami's seriously limiting what she shares with Azula. For the most part, what she knows how to create isn't very easily done with the current state of things anyway. The reasons for her inclusion are twofold - one, I like her a lot and want to play her and two, it's the reason Aang didn't wake up and thus made this all possible. Just saying "Aang didn't wake up" didn't sit right with me. She won't be building cars or advanced airships, and she's probably less valuable to the world technologically than Sokka is at this point. As for the metalbending cops, that's not new in the LoK era - Toph originated that not very long after Avatar. In The Promise, which takes place immediately after ATLA, she's already teaching metalbending to others.
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				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 03:34:27</strong>
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				As I understood everything, we were doing more or less the same kind of atmosphere as TLA ... but with one character time-displaced to explain why this universe came to exist in the first place.&nbsp; And because Karma wanted to play Asami.<br><br>But I wouldn't expect to see steam-cars or all that stuff, running around.&nbsp; Maybe slightly modified versions of the war-balloons, but even those would be redundant without a real war to be fought.&nbsp; The city she's having built would just be in the infant stages... just a major construction project where workers (probably prisoners) are sent to create a city worth her new unified world.<br><br>I don't remember why we'd written off the guy from the Air Temple as a possible inventor, but Azula couldn't use Sokka because he's with Zuko.
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				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 03:36:16</strong>
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				It's not that we wrote them off so much as didn't consider them because Asami already filled the role. There's no reason to think they aren't also there, though.<br><br>Addendum: Imperial City is just an idea right now. Area has been cleared for it, and some streets cleared, but proper construction hasn't started. It's a long-term idea.
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				Post by: <strong>AribethAmkiir</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 04:49:54</strong>
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				Well, Aang not waking up could be as simple as Sokka and Katara taking a left instead of a right on the day they found him, or Sokka not making Katara angry when they're near the iceberg.&nbsp; It could be something extremely simple that could alter the future without the need for something as elaborate as time travel.<br><br>How do you feel about an Asami without the time travel?&nbsp; Asami who was born and raised in the current time era but just as gifted as Sokka?&nbsp; <br><br>I just think that if you're going to add time travel into the game it needs to be a large plot device and not something buried in a character's background.
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				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 04:56:57</strong>
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				You raise good points, and they're in alignment with things I've been working to figure out on my own.<br><br>The original reason Asami came back in time was to save Korra from dying, and especially because she was in the Avatar state when she did so. (This is not canon, by the way.) She intended to only go a few days back, but something went wrong. In our original narrative, things got <em>really</em> fucked up, culminating in the near-destruction of the world, but Asami was able to finally fix her time device. It was all very dramatic. But without being guaranteed that end, the character is in limbo, and I'm not entirely certain what to do with her. Without the Korra connection, she loses a lot of her meaning for me, so making her a "native" doesn't really work out for me.<br><br>tl;dr without a guaranteed plot progression, which I'm not willing to set in stone, Asami is out of place, you're right.<br><br>Question is, what to do instead? I didn't have my eye on anyone else beyond Ty Lee, really. Jun is a possibility.
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				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 05:09:49</strong>
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				*raises hand* what about the past avatars? If Aang gets in contact with Roku..or any of them really..well..yea..they kinda outright speak against that act by the fire nation.
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				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 05:14:43</strong>
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				Absolutely. Good question. The way we had it originally was that by the time Aang was through being amazed by the new world, he had already been corrupted a bit too far by Azula and found it very difficult to contact the spirit world. He eventually had to go on some sort of quest to revive his connection - perhaps meeting with Guru Pathik, or the Lion Turtle sought him out, or something like that - and those Avatars would have a hell of a lot to say about the situation. We never really nailed that plot point down, but that was the basic concept. Azula was too seductive and he fell without even realizing it. That's not to say Aang gets truly corrupted, because that's not in his character. He just gets far enough out of sync that he encounters difficulty.
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				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 05:15:20</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7783625#msg7783625">Quote from: apygoos on 25-02-2013, 05:09:49</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">*raises hand* what about the past avatars? If Aang gets in contact with Roku..or any of them really..well..yea..they kinda outright speak against that act by the fire nation.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>As I understand, the previous lives wouldn't have access to knowledge of new events that Aang had not experienced.&nbsp; So they wouldn't necessarily know about the atrocities of the Fire Nation any more than he would.&nbsp; Barring, Roku of course knowing that it was the Fire Lord that allowed him to die...<br><br>The more worrisome portion of his abilities would be if he started talking with the spirit world, itself.&nbsp; Since the spirits could tell him what was going on, but it might still be hard to tell which of the two children of Ozai is the good one...<br><br>From an objectivist view, Azula is the "good guy".&nbsp; She's done more to create a kind of happiness and peace in the world (even if it's forced upon them) while Zuko is continuing to sew disharmony in the name of a throne he had no legitimate claim to.&nbsp; You have to approach it from a virtue ethics standpoint to see Zuko as the good guy, and while Aang typically represents virtue ethics pretty well when given all the information and able to make a call... most of the spirits (and even his past lives) demonstrably lean objectivist.&nbsp; So if he were to seek advice on what's become of the world, he might have a bunch of spirits saying "A bunch of stupid human shit that's beneath us... the girl's trying to end it, the boy's trying to keep it going."
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				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 05:16:56</strong>
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				...and there you have two completely different takes on it! I like them both, really, and they don't conflict. I guess we didn't know the other was replying, haha.
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				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 05:18:25</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7783668#msg7783668">Quote from: Karma on 25-02-2013, 05:16:56</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">...and there you have two completely different takes on it! I like them both, really, and they don't conflict. I guess we didn't know the other was replying, haha.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Any time I have a chance to talk about the philosophy of ethics, I will leap on it. *laughs*
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				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 05:22:49</strong>
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				IF Aang also is in fact older when he goes under, would it be too farfetched to say that he was out learning water bending already before he ran away? Or was there a plan for each bending type?
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				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 05:23:43</strong>
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				I don't think that's unreasonable.
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				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 05:25:47</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7783703#msg7783703">Quote from: apygoos on 25-02-2013, 05:22:49</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">IF Aang also is in fact older when he goes under, would it be too farfetched to say that he was out learning water bending already before he ran away? Or was there a plan for each bending type?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I'd think the only thing keeping him from having learned it was his own attitude towards being the Avatar until he had motivation to do so.<br><br>But I have no issue with him already knowing water in addition to air, personally.
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				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 05:27:35</strong>
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				cause then he might try to learn fire bending..hmm..maybe that lovely phoenix queen Azula could teach me... ;)<br>wait...If Aang were to learn fire bending form Azula, id say that would be enough to get him out of sync, as we say..or perhaps he just couldn't do it at all if learned from her..*shrugs*<br><br>its arguable that he could have ran off for some other reason. maybe a lover or something died when "he could have saved her" which would likely prompt a similar attitude that he ran off to begin with.
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				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 05:29:33</strong>
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				Well, he hasn't had exposure to fire bending before this point. Azula would teach him to fire bend the <em>wrong</em> way, in the same way that Zuko had to relearn fire bending when he switched sides.
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				Post by: <strong>AribethAmkiir</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 07:40:22</strong>
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				I love talking about this stuff.<br><br>Personally, I like the idea of Aang aging after his iceberg was "cracked" open.&nbsp; Perhaps the Avatar state was enough to keep him alive, but the ice kept him ageless?&nbsp; &nbsp;I don't know.<br><br>As for spirits: there's plenty of evidence to suggest that the spirit world is complicated, bizarre, and confusing.&nbsp; It's easy enough to believe that most spirits wouldn't be aware of what was happening on the mortal world as long as it didn't cause a lot of damage to nature or the spirit world.&nbsp; The slaying of the Moon spirit would likely alter all of that, if that happened in this timeline.&nbsp; Without Aang the Northern Water tribe would've fallen in the series.&nbsp; However, without Aang there Iroh and Zuko would likely not have been there and the Admiral would've been victorious by simply kidnapping the spirit and not permanently harming it.&nbsp; With both water tribes conquered all power would've been focused on the Earth kingdom.<br><br>Also, if Aang never woke, Sokka would never have fixed the Inventor's air balloon which means the Fire Nation wouldn't have an air fleet and Osai wouldn't have the means to implement his "scorched earth" tactic.&nbsp; With Azula conquering Omashu and Ba Sing Se and no Avatar to marshal a resistance there again wouldn't be a need for the scorched earth tactic.&nbsp; Also, as cunning as Azula is, and with her poisoning Osai shortly after his coronation, I don't think there'd be an attack against nature or the spirit world.&nbsp; Which would likely leave the spirits largely unaware of what happened.<br><br>For me, the biggest hurdle to Aang joining Azula is that the Fire Nation destroyed the Air Nomads.&nbsp; They didn't jut conquer them, but they committed genocide simply because the Avatar was going to emerge as one of them.&nbsp; Granted it wasn't Azula who did it, but it was her family and it wouldn't take much investigating to figure out that the war lasted 100 years, or that the Southern Water tribe was all but wiped out.&nbsp; In fact, the remains of the Southern Water tribe are very likely the first things Aang might see.&nbsp; If not that, than possibly an Air Temple.<br><br>Getting Aang on Azula's side should take more than simply out-of-control hormones.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 07:46:38</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				I never said Aang was going to be. however I had taken those points into consideration. I think they're banking on Azula's "proposition" to help repopulate the Air nomads, and "beg for forgiveness" for her ancestors actions. I dunno, it'll all depend on the current set up.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 07:50:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Indeed, I think if he awoke much earlier in this timeline, Azula wouldn't have all the pieces in place with which to convince him not to oppose her. What's greatly in her favor is that she's an unknown entity to him. What he sees when he meets her will be a nation apparently in love with her, and even if he travels to Ba Sing Se, which should be staunchly against her as far as he knows, he'll find more of the same. Nobody will risk talking to him honestly about it, because if they do they'll probably get caught, and even if they don't, they might talk the Avatar into doing something that would get himself killed, and then what could they possibly do against Azula? That, at this point, will be a minority of the population anyway, as the Dai Li are very, very effective at idea dissemination. <br><br>You're right that the war would be overall much less destructive and initially lower tech. They didn't end up needing most of the stuff they used in ATLA because everything was already going in their favor. And honestly, a lot of people might <em>genuinely</em> view Azula as a better option than Ozai. He was a brute who continued an old war - Azula ended it with much less bloodshed than Ozai would have preferred. Her espionage legitimately saved lives, and as you've said, the spiritual aspects of the world were pretty much entirely untouched.<br><br>Aang is walking into a world where Azula is right and everyone agrees that she's right. She's restored order and established a peace unseen for over a century. Jesus, I've talked myself into being on her side about this!<br><br>Basically, I think the hormones are just a bonus; he'll have every indication that things are going well.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 08:38:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7784476#msg7784476">Quote from: AribethAmkiir on 25-02-2013, 07:40:22</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">For me, the biggest hurdle to Aang joining Azula is that the Fire Nation destroyed the Air Nomads.&nbsp; They didn't jut conquer them, but they committed genocide simply because the Avatar was going to emerge as one of them.&nbsp; Granted it wasn't Azula who did it, but it was her family and it wouldn't take much investigating to figure out that the war lasted 100 years, or that the Southern Water tribe was all but wiped out.&nbsp; In fact, the remains of the Southern Water tribe are very likely the first things Aang might see.&nbsp; If not that, than possibly an Air Temple.<br><br>Getting Aang on Azula's side should take more than simply out-of-control hormones.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>But from that same perspective, Zuko is just as guilty of that as Azula is.&nbsp; They're both descended from the guy that killed all of Aang's people, and they're both descended from the previous life of Aang's.<br><br>But I agree that if Aang wouldn't likely ever be under Azula's "control", rather he might be under her influence.&nbsp; She might give him self-serving guidance through convincing lies.&nbsp; Aang always struck me as too calm of heart and pure of spirit to really be controlled by another, he's too sure of his convictions and morality.&nbsp; Azula's just that good at lying and convincing him that Zuko is the bad guy... assuming of course she gets the chance.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 08:40:02</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7784502#msg7784502">Quote from: Karma on 25-02-2013, 07:50:57</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Aang is walking into a world where Azula is right and everyone agrees that she's right. She's restored order and established a peace unseen for over a century. Jesus, I've talked myself into being on her side about this!<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Everyone should always be on Azula's side... duh... she was right from the very beginning. :)<br><br>Sorry I'm so absent from so much of these proceedings... I'm still in the middle of trying to get some writing submissions ready for my writing class tomorrow.&nbsp; Lots of printing and collating and stapling left... @_@
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 08:50:58</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				I can't wait till I can show you just how wrong Azula is!!!! ~Zuko<br><br><br>So I have a question for you now. You were saying in one post Katara is humiliated by Azula while w<br>Behind closed doors. One of which was to... aid Azula in bed. I am guessing as it is humiliation Katara is not very happy with that but ultimately she has no choice. What other variants will be indured as well as you spoke of punishments for non compliance. I just want to see what's on the table so I can appropriately play her fear when she does speak out at the meetings. 
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 09:03:34</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7784630#msg7784630">Quote from: Ashena on 25-02-2013, 08:50:58</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I can't wait till I can show you just how wrong Azula is!!!! ~Zuko<br><br><br>So I have a question for you now. You were saying in one post Katara is humiliated by Azula while w<br>Behind closed doors. One of which was to... aid Azula in bed. I am guessing as it is humiliation Katara is not very happy with that but ultimately she has no choice. What other variants will be indured as well as you spoke of punishments for non compliance. I just want to see what's on the table so I can appropriately play her fear when she does speak out at the meetings.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I'd think the worst thing Azula could do to Katara is treat her well, actually.&nbsp; 9 times out of 10, Azula is the kind of person that's going to leave you waiting for the punishment to come.&nbsp; The worst part is the anticipation.<br><br>Whippings, beatings, shock treatments and burns would be the most common of course.&nbsp; But you could also expect Azula to take away Katara's food or sleep privileges... and her access to water would be very carefully rationed, of course.&nbsp; The psychological and emotional torture is mostly where she'd excel though.&nbsp; Punishing Katara, herself, is easy-mode... if she really wanted to hurt Katara she'd put the lives of other water-tribe survivors on the line.<br><br>"Keep playing nice, or I burn the refugee camps to the ground..." "Is it true that water-tribe children smell like vanilla when they burn?" "I can think of a camp that would be very pleased if you'd speak out against the resistance."
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 09:35:57</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh that is horrible haha. Yeah that would be more than enough to keep her in line. Her people are her life. OK cool I just wanted the summery because I'm sure by now she has already get the heat of Azula's flame a few times. I look forward to doing it all out with you when we finally start. 
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 09:58:29</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				It may have been presumptuous of me to assume that I could get an opening post done before I had to go to bed tonight...<br><br>I <em>will </em>try and get something typed to start us by Tuesday afternoon at the latest, and I apologize for the inconvenience. :(<br><br>Stupid classes dropped a bunch of assignments on me all at once, and this week is just slaughtering any free moments I get.&nbsp; Hopefully we can use the extra time to get everything sorted out a little so we've got a world to play in that we all agree will be fun? (that's my way of saying "please don't hate me for being held up a little longer than I'd thought")
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 10:51:06</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				I am fine with waiting. Real life happens. *Runs out to buy a pitch fork to start the angry mob*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AribethAmkiir</strong> on <strong>25-02-2013, 12:36:17</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Fine by me.&nbsp; I've got 23 hours wrapped up in clinicals over the next 2 days, an a assignment due tomorrow, and a paper due Thursday.&nbsp; Take all the time you need.&nbsp; :)
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 00:28:17</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Topic for discussion: Aang's alternate history. A simple route to take is simply pushing all the events of his age 12 back to 16 and everything goes smoothly. However, it's possible we could make it more interesting. Apygoos was interested in him learning some waterbending. Here's what I propose for that to be the case.<br><br>Aang doesn't run away when they tell him he'll be sent to the Eastern Air Temple. He sucks it up and goes; this allows him to learn more advanced airbending, and also hardens him emotionally. The Eastern temple was known to be much more strict than Gyatso's soft hand, which leads to Aang being a more pragmatic and objectivist individual, like past Avatars. He's still Aang; he doesn't let them completely crush his spirit, but he's more able to take the long view. (This obviously works in favor of Azula convincing him of her legitimacy.) He completes his training there as far as he can, since he outpaces them quickly. I'd say he at minimum can make himself fly without the staff or the Avatar state. They send him to the Southern Water Tribe, and not the Northern, because they want to keep Aang low profile. The Southern is more trustworthy, and with the coming war, they don't want Aang to be found out just yet. Here, he finds a pleasant people who are more than willing to take him in as a guest. He doesn't train with the Tribe, though, and they don't in fact know who he really is; only the resident bending master does. They train in secret. During his stay he falls in love with a local girl. They're out for a romantic boat ride one day, and that fated storm hits, just four years later; but she's not a bender, and his waterbending isn't enough. He awakens his Avatar state, but too late... Appa pulls him from the water before he drowns, and the Avatar state locks them down in ice to keep them alive.<br><br>Fast forward a hundred years. The storms have continued, unabatingly, for a century; an unwitting reaction from the Avatar, protecting himself. The Southern tribe was forced to relocate farther north and Katara never even had a chance to find him. The storms have been slowly increasing in intensity, culminating in one so fierce it cracks the shell of his prison. Fate strikes again - he is needed, but he doesn't know it yet. The Southern Tribe was never destroyed, but is smaller, and after Ozai's war they were merged with the Northern tribe as a sort of "lower class."<br><br>This removes Asami from the equation, since the original plotline that she was part of isn't here. It keeps Aang from getting mad about the Southern tribe because it was never destroyed. It makes Aang more powerful to keep him in line with a four-years-later Azula and Zuko. It gives him the frame of mind to restore his people at all costs because without them, the balance could be ruined <em>permanently.</em> What do you think? Alterations, different approaches?
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 01:16:51</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				I think that sounds pretty legit, i like it. so his attitude is like that pretty much from the end of the series, but he still needs to master earth and fire bending, makes sense.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 02:17:35</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Patient people are wonderful.&nbsp; Thank you guys. :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 03:53:57</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				I like it.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 03:55:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				He'll still need waterbending instruction - but he may have an adverse reaction to the thought, like he did with firebending in the show.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AribethAmkiir</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 04:50:14</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Does flying actually fit with Air Bending?&nbsp; I might be wrong, but the only time we actually see him fly is in the Avatar state in the series finale.&nbsp; Even the flashbacks in LOK don't show him flying and he's been a fully realized Avatar for many years by that time.&nbsp; Further, in flashbacks of other Avatars they are never depicted as flying.&nbsp; He's still the Avatar, capable of mastering each element and controlling the Avatar state.&nbsp; The Avatar is always the most powerful bender simply because they can access each element.<br><br>As for Azula being four years stronger, I'm not sure how much stronger she can actually get.&nbsp; Same goes for Toph.&nbsp; I would think there would be a pinnacle for each element and you can't get higher than a pinnacle.&nbsp; Of course, there's a few ways to get around this such as creating a new type of bending or creating a new move, such as attacking with lightning or flying.&nbsp; I think since bending is an art form the things that set benders apart is admittedly power, but also creativity.&nbsp; I think this is illustrated the most in Azula and Zuko's final duel.&nbsp; 
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 04:51:43</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				That's fair enough. What do you think about the rest of it? That was just an offhand comment about the flying, really.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 04:56:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				sounds about right..wonder if Azula will teach Aang lightning bending..god i want to see teh whole series over again now.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 04:57:28</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				I think it's generally accepted that the Avatar can't learn the advanced techniques due to having to learn all four disciplines.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 05:13:20</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Aang learned energy bending, i think that counts as advanced :P but i get what you're saying. <br>On a&nbsp; different note, i know Ozai thought the avatar was dead, but even then, even when he had the slightest hint that he might be alive, you would think that he would take into consideration the comet enhanced ALL fire bending, including the most powerful fire bender in the world, the avatar.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AribethAmkiir</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 05:14:31</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Might explain why he's susceptible to blood bending in LOK.<br><br>I think the rest of it sounds good.&nbsp; It's really up to Apygoos if he wants Aang to have a love interest who died in the storm in the past.&nbsp; I'm also not sure why the Southern Water Tribe would reunite with the Northern Water Tribe after only a few generations.&nbsp; It was Katarra's grandmother, after all, who was a part of forming the Southern Water Tribe.&nbsp; She's still alive in the series opener, so I'm not sure that the reasons for the split would've been so easily set aside even with Osai's war.&nbsp; The Northern Water Tribe's perspective on women isn't something that would've changed without Katarra and Aang's influence, nor would the Northern Water Tribe have decided to help the Southern Water Tribe rebuild if Katarra had never gone.&nbsp; I'm also unsure if the Southern Water Tribe existed 100 years ago.&nbsp; Though with this being an alternate universe we can simply say "yes it did" and be done with it.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 05:18:19</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				The love interest makes sense, given his age, as well as the reason of the "self imposed exile" by freezing himself there in guilt, not deeming himself strong enough.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 05:23:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				More good points all around; I've only seen the show once, so I'm very fuzzy on details like that, thus my asking for opinions on everything under the sun. People seem to live a rather long time in Avatar, Bumi and Kyoshi being examples. I think it's reasonable that it could have happened that long ago, even if in truth it didn't. The reuniting is because Azula actually ordered it. Easier to keep an eye on them if they're all in one place. Before that, they were just farther north than normal.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 05:25:08</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				*nods*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 07:16:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				what kinda weather do we like?&nbsp; and have we decided how soon after Ozai's death we're playing from?&nbsp; Has Azula just been crowned... or has it been a while?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 07:16:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				He died weeks after the conquest and it's been 4 years.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 08:01:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Minor alterations: The main area that needed to be "conquered" was the Earth Kingdom outside Ba Sing Se. The city itself fell at Azula's hand. With this over and done, they proceeded to the Northern Water Tribe with all the power of the Fire Nation and the Earth Nation. They surrendered in the face of this overwhelming force, agreeing to give tribute, and provide Yue as a member of the Council (and unofficial hostage). Azula is styling herself as not being a conqueror... with the majority of the Earth Kingdom's power not resisting them, and the Northern Tribe surviving pretty much unscathed, there's even some truth to this.<br><br>...so it's not called the Council of the Conquered anymore. Violence will have a new name for it in his post.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 08:05:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I wanted to call it the Court of Ladies... but it didn't work out that way. *laughs*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 08:10:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Is there a link to where the Ic will be or is that being worked on?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 08:11:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7789748#msg7789748">Quote from: Ashena on 26-02-2013, 08:10:37</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Is there a link to where the Ic will be or is that being worked on?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I'm still constructing the post now.&nbsp; Soon, though.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 08:11:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				As Azula is the center of all this, Azula will set the tone. :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 08:33:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				No its no big deal take your time. I am not going anywhere ^.^
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 10:17:55</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				The post.... is made... (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166828.0)<br><br>I encourage everybody to look through it real fast and note any changes you might want made regarding where I may have implied your characters starting off.&nbsp; I'm not opposed to editing this post, tomorrow. :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 11:29:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I am perfectly fine with where Katara is, though I have a question about Zuko's location. I am guessing the Avatar has broken out of the shell at this point. Would it be feasible to find the large ass broken shell of where he was in Zuko's post?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 11:42:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7790230#msg7790230">Quote from: Ashena on 26-02-2013, 11:29:01</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I am perfectly fine with where Katara is, though I have a question about Zuko's location. I am guessing the Avatar has broken out of the shell at this point. Would it be feasible to find the large ass broken shell of where he was in Zuko's post?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I tried to intentionally set it up so that Zuko and Suki, et, al. could be started up anywhere between Omashu and riding Appa with Aang. *laughs* I wanted to set it up to give everybody an idea of what we could be doing, but not tell anybody "this is where you are, dammit".&nbsp; With the exception, I guess, of Katara who ended up locked up because I remembered half-way through the post that I had it raining and didn't want to change the weather because I liked the image... &gt;.&gt;;; I'm sorry about that.<br><br>But yeah, I don't think I'd see any problem with Zuko being at the spot where Aang came out of the ice.&nbsp; Jiao's information actually only referenced Iroh, so Zuko could technically be anywhere in the world and Iroh is just sewing some misinformation... or maybe they're together and Jiao's information is out of date, or falsified by somebody loyal to Iroh.<br><br>Like I said, I tried to leave it open... but I wanted to set up a good "this is what's going on, these are things at stake" set-up... ^.^;;<br><br>But I figure let's hold off following it up until everybody's had a chance to read it.&nbsp; Because somebody else might have something they want changed...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 13:03:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah that's fair enough. I figured I would ask because that would give us all a chance to have the other characters paired up and potentially rping as well (if everyone agrees with that) but I figure I would go ahead and get Katara's in because I am more than excited for this Rp XD. I am completely ok with her being locked away, I would have wrote more on it but I assume I will be in there for at least one or two more posts and I wanted to save some writing for the next post so its not entirely about her sitting in one room :) I think I need to name the guards be cause I feel like no one is going to want to read the redundant word Guard all the time. That could be another mission I embark later.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 16:13:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				the way you set it up, Aang could be anywhere!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AribethAmkiir</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 18:47:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Opening post works for me.&nbsp; Doesn't really put anyone anywhere, except for Katarra.<br><br>Quick question.&nbsp; If Katarra is surrounded by chi blockers, why does she need to be confined in a stone tower?&nbsp; Can't they simply just keep her chi blocked?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 18:50:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I would imagine that they don't want to take the risk of Katara acting fast enough to knock them all back before they can block her. With it raining, she has a considerable source of water.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 18:55:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				well i ask everyone here, what would be the most constructive place for Aang to start?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 19:08:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, if you want to get right into it, he could easily have found out by asking anyone that the Fire capital is currently the center of power, and obviously he knows where that is. He could be on his way there, or making a stopover somewhere on the way, but I'm not too particular. Anyone else have a thought?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>26-02-2013, 20:44:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7791539#msg7791539">Quote from: AribethAmkiir on 26-02-2013, 18:47:43</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Opening post works for me.&nbsp; Doesn't really put anyone anywhere, except for Katarra.<br><br>Quick question.&nbsp; If Katarra is surrounded by chi blockers, why does she need to be confined in a stone tower?&nbsp; Can't they simply just keep her chi blocked?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I had thought of that, but it seemed like a lot more risky of an alternative to try to just keep her down in a rain storm.&nbsp; I mean, you do the pokey-poke thing to her and then she's paralyzed for a time... you've gotta hand feed her... change her sheets...<br><br>Plus, I think Azula's trying to keep all her important pieces under the impression that they're being treated fairly.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>27-02-2013, 02:54:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'd like to announce a new player! Visna will be joining us as June.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>27-02-2013, 03:08:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7793973#msg7793973">Quote from: Karma on 27-02-2013, 02:54:57</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'd like to announce a new player! Visna will be joining us as June.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Read that as joining is IN June... *laughs* I was like "damn... that's some scheduling, right there..."
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>27-02-2013, 03:09:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'll be joining <em>in</em> June, kthx. ifyaknowwaddamean.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>27-02-2013, 03:15:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That's another one I keep wanting to spell the name wrong, I guess... I always call her Jun.&nbsp; Like Jun from Tekken. :/<br><br>Though, Mei is deliberate... I kinda refuse to spell it the official way just like I refuse to pronounce any of them the Shyamalan way. &gt;.&gt;<br><br>And speaking of Mei... am I right in thinking I have more people than everybody else?&nbsp; I've got Azula, Mei, Iroh and Sokka... did I just snag all the cool people (and Mei)?&nbsp; Am I being fair?&nbsp; Everybody should take more people so I don't feel so bad.<br><br>Also, do Zuko, Suki, et, al. want me to post Sokka and Iroh to set the stage for them?&nbsp; Or should I hold up?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>27-02-2013, 03:18:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, it just happened out that way. Nobody asked to play the rest.<br><br>Avatar is rife with bad spelling... or bad pronunciation. Aang should be more like "ahng." June = Jun. Ty Lee = Tai Li. Mai = Mei. Sokka = Sakka (or else pronounced soh-ka).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>27-02-2013, 03:45:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Here's some inspiration!<br><br>(http://i.imgur.com/8K1Pcla.jpg)<br><br>They're a bit older here than they are in the game, by 5-10 years, but this version of Toph is exactly what I had in mind.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Visna</strong> on <strong>27-02-2013, 03:48:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="floatleft">(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121120121812/avatar/images/4/41/Zuko_pleading_with_June.png)</div>Hello everyone! Sorry for being late to this little party.<br><br>I wonder how long Shirshus live. I'm guessing she would still have Nyla, or perhaps not... Hmm...<br><br>Tea is good. Calm down Zuko.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>27-02-2013, 03:51:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7794305#msg7794305">Quote from: Karma on 27-02-2013, 03:45:35</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Here's some inspiration!<br><br>(http://i.imgur.com/8K1Pcla.jpg)<br><br>They're a bit older here than they are in the game, by 5-10 years, but this version of Toph is exactly what I had in mind.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Honestly it's just Aang and maybe Katara that really LOOK older than we'd been discussing.&nbsp; Sokka and Zuko look in their 20's, but not noticeably older than if they were just barely 20ish.&nbsp; Also, Zuko looks boss with long hair, just sayin'.<br><br>Toph looks about 17-19.<br><br>Aang looks a bit older than we'd said, but it's mostly because of the beard... Katara just looks taller, and strangely smaller chested, than she did in the series.&nbsp; I'd buy her as only 4-5 years older than series end, though.<br><br>How long do Momo's live... I feel like we'd have a good idea when this picture was if we knew that *laughs*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>27-02-2013, 03:53:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah, Zuko looks fucking awesome. I wish there was an Azula companion to this.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>27-02-2013, 03:57:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7794327#msg7794327">Quote from: Visna on 27-02-2013, 03:48:29</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"><div class="floatleft">(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121120121812/avatar/images/4/41/Zuko_pleading_with_June.png)</div>Hello everyone! Sorry for being late to this little party.<br><br>I wonder how long Shirshus live. I'm guessing she would still have Nyla, or perhaps not... Hmm...<br><br>Tea is good. Calm down Zuko.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>A big animal like that?&nbsp; I'd imagine it wouldn't be gone after just 4 years.&nbsp; A deer lives about 20.&nbsp; A horse lives 25 years.&nbsp; A rhino can live up to 50.&nbsp; Elephants live up to 70, in the wild.&nbsp; So, I'd feel pretty confident in the assumption that the animal would still be with her barring something unforeseen. *nods*&nbsp; We've no idea how long any of the stuff on Avatar World lives... so feel free to still have Nyla, if you like.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Visna</strong> on <strong>27-02-2013, 04:20:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Probably. I think the shirshus are a mixture of anteaters and moles, both of which live 15&gt; years though. It'll be fun to still have her around. Could be an interesting dynamic to toy with.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>27-02-2013, 04:23:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Seems to me that most creatures have long lives in Avatar. Magical influence, perhaps.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>27-02-2013, 04:29:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7794494#msg7794494">Quote from: Visna on 27-02-2013, 04:20:27</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Probably. I think the shirshus are a mixture of anteaters and moles, both of which live 15&gt; years though. It'll be fun to still have her around. Could be an interesting dynamic to toy with.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Personally, I'd say go for it without even thinking that much about it.&nbsp; June feels incomplete without Nyla... it's like Aang without Appa, or Korra without... um... her dog-bear-thingy.&nbsp; Or Sokka without his boomerang.<br><br>Zuko without his imaginary psychic detective pony.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>27-02-2013, 04:33:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hey leave my pony alone :) and no I don't want tea!!!! Lol anyway. Yeah if you want to make the starter post to set the mood for the second party, It would be awesome. So it can set the mood and I can work off it XD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>27-02-2013, 04:51:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7794567#msg7794567">Quote from: Ashena on 27-02-2013, 04:33:21</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Hey leave my pony alone :) and no I don't want tea!!!! Lol anyway. Yeah if you want to make the starter post to set the mood for the second party, It would be awesome. So it can set the mood and I can work off it XD<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I'd never dream of taking away Zuko's imaginary detective pony.<br><br>In other news, apparently I spelled Zhao wrong.&nbsp; Unlike Mei, that was unintentional, and I have remedied that. &gt;.&gt; My apologies...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>27-02-2013, 05:04:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I've extended my post a bit.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 05:10:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I was thinking about setting the tone and posting as Zuko but Violence I think I will let you. Your Azula post. Was awesome and gave me some ideas to trail off with Katara so I'll let you be our tone maker
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 05:28:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				ill get a post up either tonight or tomorrow. I think i know where i Want Aang to be.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 05:29:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sigh, I was making this ginormous art dump for you guys for inspiration, but the tab froze and I lost it. I'm going to remake it but it'll take a while.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 05:50:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Inspiration time! Click ‘em to make ‘em bigger. Azula, Mai, and Ty Lee first up!<br><br><div align="center">(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/238/1/9/azula_by_dandonfuga-d5cihi1.jpg)(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/177/0/1/Azula_by_senbo_sama.jpg)(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs44/i/2009/110/b/d/Azula_by_RinoaLeonmac.jpg)<br>(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/179/5/1/azula_by_peekabooga-d5565c0.jpg)(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/325/7/7/azula__princess_of_fire_by_kelly1412-d4gumwm.jpg)<br>(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs28/i/2008/067/1/f/Azula_is_a_spoiled_brat_by_Aries888.jpg)(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/111/4/d/master_azula_by_kelly1412-d4x2t24.jpg)(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs46/i/2009/210/7/0/Fire_Lord_Azula_and_her_Lady_by_NoTickleElmo.jpg)<br><br>(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/166/9/8/mai_by_vanheist-d53mqxq.png)(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs48/f/2009/223/e/f/Avatar_Mai_and_Ty_Lee_by_Nicca_11Y.jpg)(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs32/f/2008/199/3/3/Realistic_Painting_of_Mai_by_missbennet.jpg)<br>(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/037/d/d/ATLA___Mai_by_Hatoko_sama.png)(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/121/4/6/Our_Friendship___TyLee_and_Mai_by_Lady_Pirate.jpg)(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/356/2/7/mai__she_still_gots_it__by_darkkenjie-d35fm0v.jpg)<br><br>(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/045/6/b/ty_lee_by_patousky96-d4prr8x.png)(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/047/b/3/avatar_ty_lee_and_azula_by_lisvanpiece-d39oxva.jpg)(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/201/1/4/ty_lee_relax_day_by_lostonezero-d57y2jd.jpg)<br>(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs24/f/2007/322/a/a/ty_lee_by_avatargirl2000.jpg)(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/311/5/5/ty_and_azula_by_aurora_stylus-d4fg2ce.jpg)(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs14/f/2007/002/e/3/Ty_Lee_by_KUNGPOW333.jpg)<br>(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/219/d/b/REQUEST_Crackabad_by_wasting_air.jpg)(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/199/9/0/commission__azula_and_ty_lee_by_alexielart-d40g0z7.jpg)(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs51/i/2009/298/3/b/Ty_Lee_by_DaniGunz.jpg)<br></div>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 06:11:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Toph, Zuko, and Suki!<br><br><div align="center">(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/142/6/0/__avatar___toph___by_chocosweete-dzo3fc.jpg)(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/191/c/b/Toph_Toph_by_andrahilde.jpg)(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs48/f/2009/171/1/f/Avatar___Toph_Bei_Fong_by_GENZOMAN.jpg)<br>(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/131/7/7/Toph_by_andrahilde.jpg)(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/192/0/c/toph_and_toph_by_gyehu-d56tav1.jpg)(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/205/2/a/toph_by_kaorumatsumoto-d58h082.png)<br>(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/224/6/f/chief_toph_beifong_by_sushiwasabi1004-d5aw6mf.jpg)(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/215/3/4/toph_by_milayna-d59o4kf.jpg)(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/294/a/2/toph_bei_fong_by_dandonfuga-d55yrwn.jpg)(http://)(http://)(http://)<br><br>(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/242/5/5/toph__zuko_by_kazeki-d5d0v1b.png)(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/043/2/3/zuko_by_avici1881.jpg)(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs24/f/2007/353/c/6/zuko_the_banished_prince_by_sorceressmyr.jpg)<br>(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/259/8/b/grow_up_zuko_by_kelly1412-d5ew60m.jpg)(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/312/8/2/zuko_again_by_shibue-d32h26c.jpg)(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs44/i/2009/086/3/6/Prince_Zuko_by_Ninjatic.jpg)<br>(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs32/i/2008/199/b/6/realistic_painting_of_Zuko_2_by_missbennet.jpg)(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/066/f/c/zuko___atla_by_attyca-d4s15xx.jpg)(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/312/7/f/zuko_by_shibue-d32h1po.jpg)<br><br>(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/047/b/0/Tiger_Suki_by_Meek_o_bits.jpg)(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs31/i/2010/054/d/c/Suki_by_14_bis.jpg)(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/192/2/3/suki_by_ravensetfree-d3ak31f.jpg)(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs48/f/2009/220/5/6/Avatar_Suki___Fire_nation_by_GENZOMAN.jpg)<br>(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/142/a/c/suki_by_frene-d50romr.png)(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/360/c/e/adult_suki_from_avatar_by_chewyli-d35pz50.jpg)(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/260/6/3/suki_by_icius-d4a618n.png)</div>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 06:34:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Iroh, Sokka, Yue!<br><br><div align="center">(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs29/i/2008/047/a/a/_Iroh__by_MsAnnThrope.jpg)(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs10/i/2006/098/d/f/Uncle_Iroh_the_Dragon_by_Deerock_Gorilla.jpg)(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs22/f/2007/319/d/b/Buff_Iroh_by_ElTheGeneral.jpg)<br>(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/287/d/4/iroh___the_grand_lotus_by_rennard-d47fyz4.jpg)(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/265/7/0/avatar__iroh__s_dilemma_by_mattierial-d2zaelk.jpg)(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/084/f/0/iroh_the_dragon_of_the_west_by_gilbert86II.jpg)<br><br>(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/199/1/2/sokka_by_redblacktac-d57n98i.jpg)(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs22/f/2007/333/7/c/Sokka___Watertribe_Warrior_by_Jonas64.jpg)(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/013/9/e/Sokka_by_Saito3.jpg)<br>(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs14/f/2007/055/f/2/Sokka__s_Security_Boomerang_by_TinyYellowMouse.jpg)(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/127/7/1/_sokka__by_herzfield-d3ft8pl.jpg)(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/066/c/7/Sokka_by_Saniika.jpg)<br>(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/237/0/c/Warrior_Sokka_by_Mandy_Mo.jpg)(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs43/i/2009/139/9/8/Sokka___You_took_her_by_DarkKenjie.jpg)(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/219/1/5/yue_and_sokka_by_moni158-d5a7g72.png)<br><br>(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/262/e/e/yue_by_goldensunlight-d5f8eo4.jpg)(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/025/9/8/yue_by_tinyamazon-d2rqlha.jpg)<br>(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs32/f/2008/217/0/e/Princess_Yue_by_ta_min.jpg)(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs15/i/2007/076/0/d/Yue__color_by_malodorousmice.jpg)(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/295/b/9/princess_yue_by_r_chie-d312ht2.jpg)(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/355/1/4/14080a3ba1d63cdc0fd0e5737060a3a2-d35cyy7.jpg)<br>(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/354/d/d/ddf77bfa371e6fd9d39cd5c13d4ab446-d3591hd.jpg)(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/112/9/8/Yue_by_elehoernchen.png)(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs26/f/2008/091/5/d/5d669bdfb2449eb0.jpg)</div>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 06:43:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7800641#msg7800641">Quote from: Karma on 28-02-2013, 06:34:37</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/354/d/d/ddf77bfa371e6fd9d39cd5c13d4ab446-d3591hd.jpg)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>As Sokka's player... I think we need to make this happen.&nbsp; Just sayin'...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 06:45:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I just kinda <em>slipped that in there</em>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 06:51:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7800677#msg7800677">Quote from: Karma on 28-02-2013, 06:45:02</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I just kinda <em>slipped that in there</em><br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Said Sokka to Suki and Yue...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 06:57:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				looool
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 06:59:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Katara, Aang, and June! Let me know if I missed anyone.<br><br><div align="center">(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs51/i/2009/290/8/d/Katara_by_YukiHyo.jpg)(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/118/3/1/katara_by_kungpow333-drs2d9.png)<br>(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/218/e/8/katara_by_moni158-d5a2hhc.png)(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/138/4/4/katara_by_curry23-d506jhk.jpg)(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/200/0/0/katara_by_knknknk-d40u9jv.png)<br>(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/259/8/9/katara__of_the_southern_water_tribe_by_teaink-d5d3v2j.jpg)(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/262/7/0/avatar__katara_by_viccolatte-d3fgdmr.jpg)(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs16/i/2007/140/4/9/Katara_by_JenKristo.jpg)(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs18/f/2007/161/6/e/Katara_by_greendesire.png)<br>(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs48/f/2009/213/b/6/Avatar_Katara___Fire_nation_by_GENZOMAN.jpg)(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/241/a/4/katara_by_smartybloom-d39vt8w.jpg)(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs20/f/2007/264/e/6/e608d21d4e807798.jpg)<br><br>(http://th05.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2010/091/1/5/Aang_by_Busasami.jpg)(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs18/f/2007/196/7/f/__avatar___aang___by_chocosweete.jpg)(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/356/0/7/aang_and_katara_by_andrahilde-d4jvm9r.jpg)(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs37/i/2008/275/3/2/Avatar_Aang_the_Last_Airbender_by_Moony92.jpg)<br>(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs49/i/2012/169/f/e/avatar_aang_by_darkkenjie-d26rz5r.jpg)(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/184/6/6/aang_by_shtut-d4xgpmh.png)(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/188/2/0/20666cf2e3b78277a6262ccb68e35c95.jpg)<br>(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/005/b/1/b10ad8954c12e3787344c08a4f705758.jpg)(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/160/0/7/078ffe546c604365ad12cb174cb6d5b8-d52w7np.jpg)(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/005/3/9/older_aang_for_sweetangel1927_by_kazutaka51-d36ijez.jpg)<br>(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/193/d/8/Aang_by_SocioBunneh.png)(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs21/i/2007/235/2/8/Aang_by_aa_s0u1j4h_aa.png)<br><br>(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/238/6/1/03_June_by_lady_voldything.jpg)(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/122/d/5/june_and_nyla_by_jdeberge-d4y6taf.jpg)(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/311/3/a/punk_june_by_lagelian-d5kc8wp.jpg)(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/004/4/0/avatar__june_the_bounty_hunter_by_animetomboy-d5q7fw5.png)<br>(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/291/5/7/june_by_shoshina-d4d8pod.jpg)(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/118/f/e/The_Bounty_Huntress_by_Isyss.jpg)(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/014/c/9/june_by_alisonjane-d4mea47.jpg)</div>
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 07:24:29</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Thank you for the inspiration. I am so using some of these picks. As a player I will agree with violence and say that pic needs to happen so I can read it!!! Hehehe
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 07:25:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hehe, good to hear! These pics are totally for ingame use if anyone feels them appropriate. I'm very fond of the one of Katara bloodbending...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 07:42:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That picture is the background on my comp. It is really cool. That pic will be used in game!!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 13:44:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I posted Sokka and Iroh in an effort to hopefully set the scene for Zuko, and I believe Suki and the Kyoshi girls would be on the ship with them, too, right?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 13:48:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah I would assume they would be. It would be big enough for them to have there own quarters away from the guys as well. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 13:53:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7801760#msg7801760">Quote from: Ashena on 28-02-2013, 13:48:42</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Yeah I would assume they would be. It would be big enough for them to have there own quarters away from the guys as well.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Well, ideally we keep things open enough for lots of people to have an idea where to intro. :)<br><br>But, I just realized I need to go through and edit some stuff... *laughs* to explain why Zhao thought Iroh was in Omashu, and where Zuko had the ship headed...<br><br>My intention was that Iroh has loyal men on the inside who feed misinformation, and Zuko was directing the ship toward the beacon of light that Aang popped out of... obviously Aang doesn't have to still be there.&nbsp; I'll edit the post tomorrow to reflect that... too sleepy at the moment...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 14:04:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7801773#msg7801773">Quote from: Violence on 28-02-2013, 13:53:15</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Well, ideally we keep things open enough for lots of people to have an idea where to intro. :)<br><br>But, I just realized I need to go through and edit some stuff... *laughs* to explain why Zhao thought Iroh was in Omashu, and where Zuko had the ship headed...<br><br>My intention was that Iroh has loyal men on the inside who feed misinformation, and Zuko was directing the ship toward the beacon of light that Aang popped out of... obviously Aang doesn't have to still be there.&nbsp; I'll edit the post tomorrow to reflect that... too sleepy at the moment...<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>&nbsp;Just to sleepy huh? XD well that's ok we all need our sleep love. I may post tonight or I may wait till you edit to post. One way or another mine will be in later today or tomorrow afternoon the absolute latest. I will also post Katara's second post to move her along in the tower. I assume no one will Rp with her till after the storm anyway?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 14:44:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7801796#msg7801796">Quote from: Ashena on 28-02-2013, 14:04:58</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"> Just to sleepy huh?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Shhhhhhhhhhh.&nbsp; Jeez.&nbsp; Try and protect a girl's reputation.<br><br>Besides, you know... also helping new friends get awesome Avatars for their account. ;)<br><br>I'd like to say that I'd have Azula give Katara something to do... but, I think she'd have to be far less brilliant than she's meant to be to be walking into Katara's place during a Rain Storm. *laughs*<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 14:46:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				It might be possible to contrive a reason for Yue to visit... of course, she'd be subject to the same treatment Katara is currently receiving.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 14:47:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7801866#msg7801866">Quote from: Karma on 28-02-2013, 14:46:39</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">It might be possible to contrive a reason for Yue to visit... of course, she'd be subject to the same treatment Katara is currently receiving.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Was Yue a bender?&nbsp; I don't remember her bending.&nbsp; Or is it just that I don't remember her combat bending?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 14:49:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hmm. The wiki says she became a bender only with her moon spirit powers. Maybe she wasn't then...<br><br>That said, I had assumed she was, and it's a little hard to believe that the Water Princess wouldn't be a bender.<br><br>Edit 2: I find it most likely that she had the ability but wasn't trained at all until after the war, due to the northern tribe's rules against women bending. So she's an amateur at best, but it would still get blocked, because Ty Lee's sisters are jerks, and even an amateur might be able to shuttle water to Katara, whose power is quite known.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 15:04:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7801875#msg7801875">Quote from: Karma on 28-02-2013, 14:49:42</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Hmm. The wiki says she became a bender only with her moon spirit powers. Maybe she wasn't then...<br><br>That said, I had assumed she was, and it's a little hard to believe that the Water Princess wouldn't be a bender.<br><br>Edit 2: I find it most likely that she had the ability but wasn't trained at all until after the war, due to the northern tribe's rules against women bending. So she's an amateur at best, but it would still get blocked, because Ty Lee's sisters are jerks, and even an amateur might be able to shuttle water to Katara, whose power is quite known.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I was trying to think back, and I thought I remembered her working with the other girls learning healing techniques... but I'm also barely awake right now. *laughs*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 15:08:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				"I think we could maybe... do an activity together?"<br><br>Oh, Sokka.<br><br>"Yes! At a place... for some time!<br><br>I skimmed those episodes really quick, and while she is never seen bending until she's the moon spirit, I don't think that's conclusive at all given the female bending embargo. It still seems more likely to me that she had the ability, but as Princess, set an example by not using it.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 15:23:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7801913#msg7801913">Quote from: Karma on 28-02-2013, 15:08:24</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">"I think we could maybe... do an activity together?"<br><br>Oh, Sokka.<br><br>"Yes! At a place... for some time!<br><br>I skimmed those episodes really quick, and while she is never seen bending until she's the moon spirit, I don't think that's conclusive at all given the female bending embargo. It still seems more likely to me that she had the ability, but as Princess, set an example by not using it.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Would Azula, then, know she was a bender?&nbsp; Is it like the Highlander?&nbsp; Can they sense each other coming?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 16:03:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I don't know if it's known. I guess we'd need to decide. If she doesn't, I won't get to have Yue treated roughly though... D:<br><br>Also, would any of the couples have children? Four years is a long time. <br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 16:13:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7802110#msg7802110">Quote from: Karma on 28-02-2013, 16:03:46</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I don't know if it's known. I guess we'd need to decide. If she doesn't, I won't get to have Yue treated roughly though... D:<br><br>Also, would any of the couples have children? Four years is a long time.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>As far as I know the only couple running around established is Azula/Ty Lee, right?&nbsp; Unless Ty Lee's got a secret I don't think them having had children is plausible. *laughs*<br><br>I'm leaning no, but I'll have no qualms about it if other players want to say yes for couples I'm not part of. *laughs*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 16:15:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sokka/Yue and Zuko/Suki are established.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 16:17:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7802153#msg7802153">Quote from: Karma on 28-02-2013, 16:15:51</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Sokka/Yue and Zuko/Suki are established.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Are Zuko and Suki established?&nbsp; Like... by their players?<br><br>Man, I got no idea what's goin' on... *laughs* I have officially been up for 24 hours now...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>28-02-2013, 16:18:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, I put it in the OP and nobody contested it, so I assumed it was accepted.<br><br>Bonus Toph!<br><br>(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1owggE03L1rsyyqeo1_1280.jpg)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AribethAmkiir</strong> on <strong>01-03-2013, 09:19:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I don't have a problem with Suki/Zuko.&nbsp; I think it's an interesting pairing and gives an interesting dynamic to the resistance.<br><br><br>Will do my best to get a post out tomorrow or Saturday
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>01-03-2013, 09:20:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Great! 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>01-03-2013, 14:12:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I have no problems with Zuko and Suki I read it in the post when I joined and was completely fine with it. So we are good all around there I guess. I will be getting in a post for Zuko and Katara today. Working on Zuko now. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>01-03-2013, 16:33:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				If you like I can make a post for Yue visiting Katara sometime later today.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>01-03-2013, 16:39:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7807525#msg7807525">Quote from: Karma on 01-03-2013, 16:33:43</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">If you like I can make a post for Yue visiting Katara sometime later today.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Sure, I have it set so that the earth benders are in the tower so you may need to bring one or just knock on the stone XD. But yeah I would not mind a visitor ^.^ ~Ps if you brought some water with you I would not mind either you know. If you think of it while your walking up and all.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>01-03-2013, 16:43:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*laughs* Even if she did, the Lees will probably find it. They're cruel.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>01-03-2013, 16:47:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7807561#msg7807561">Quote from: Karma on 01-03-2013, 16:43:06</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">*laughs* Even if she did, the Lees will probably find it. They're cruel.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Katara...um. Skinned her knee. Yeah... and TOTALLY only wants it to heal with. XD Hey, you know. This could be like a drug smuggling operation. Have to get it across the border and past the lee's and your home free? Haha. I am sure Katara stays up and cry's at night unable to bend. Actually thinking about it that has to suck. Having powers (bending) but forced not to use them for extended amounts of time..
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>01-03-2013, 16:52:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				It's too bad Yue isn't a skilled bender... she might be able to uh... <em>hide it somewhere</em>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>01-03-2013, 16:56:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				* latex glove snap* bend over and spread em<br>an Aang post is one of my priorities today. Everything i think ihave&nbsp; good idea of what i want to write, i come up with a completely new idea and trash like an hour of thinking lol
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>01-03-2013, 18:30:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				In the course of reading about Yue, I found out that the Southern tribe did indeed exist in Aang's original time frame. They used to have a large city just like the North, too... but everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>01-03-2013, 20:19:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Not to be all gross or anything, but smuggling water seems like it would be ridiculously easy... just drunk a bunch before visiting and hang out for a while.<br><br>Now, whether that means Katara would be able to make use of that is another story... for all I know the sisters are chi-blocking her every time anybody in the capital goes to pee.<br><br>Also, in theory, couldn't Katara just pull water directly out of the Lee's?&nbsp; Like with the plants?&nbsp; Not saying she'd necessarily know how... but is there a reason she's not just the most powerful entity on the planet excepting the Avatar? *laughs*&nbsp; I mean really, how did Fire ever beat Water?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>01-03-2013, 20:22:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah, waterbending is incredibly powerful. I think airbending is on its level, though. Firebending seems weaker, but can be conjured rather than using the environment, so that its own advantage, plus the one-hit-kill of lightning.<br><br>Anyway, that's why they stationed <em>five</em> (or was it six) chi blockers on her. They're not fucking around here.<br><br>I totally mentioned the piss thing, by the way.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>01-03-2013, 20:32:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7808262#msg7808262">Quote from: Karma on 01-03-2013, 20:22:58</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Yeah, waterbending is incredibly powerful. I think airbending is on its level, though. Firebending seems weaker, but can be conjured rather than using the environment, so that its own advantage, plus the one-hit-kill of lightning.<br><br>Anyway, that's why they stationed <em>five</em> (or was it six) chi blockers on her. They're not fucking around here.<br><br>I totally mentioned the piss thing, by the way.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I'm pretty sure Ty Lee was a matching set of 7... so if all her sisters are assigned to Katara 24/7 then there are 6 guarding her... one would assume they take rotations, though, so I'd imagine no more than 4 at a given time.<br><br>Also, "conjuring without using the environment" is not an advantage against Air. *laughs* I'm pretty sure everybody involved is probably gonna need some air around to do any bending of any sort.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>01-03-2013, 20:33:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Nah. We've already agreed that air is the king in terms of power. They just don't tend to use it aggressively... yet...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>01-03-2013, 20:45:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7808318#msg7808318">Quote from: Karma on 01-03-2013, 20:33:10</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Nah. We've already agreed that air is the king in terms of power. They just don't tend to use it aggressively... yet...<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Unless there's a lost continent of Gravity Benders somewhere out there...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>01-03-2013, 21:15:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Aang-&gt; the first gravity bender
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>01-03-2013, 22:20:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Lol wow this conversation took a turn for the interesting haha
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>02-03-2013, 00:43:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just a note, it's intentional that Lee is being used interchangeably for the sisters. They're meant to be all but indistinguishable except by age, thus Ty Lee's fear of a "matched set." I extended this to their names (which are never given in the show), they're all ____ Lee.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>02-03-2013, 01:56:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I just picked up "The Promise 1-3" ... so... hopefully that gets me psyched for story stuff to come. :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>02-03-2013, 02:18:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think it will. It was quite good.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>02-03-2013, 02:21:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7809779#msg7809779">Quote from: Karma on 02-03-2013, 02:18:10</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I think it will. It was quite good.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Walked into the comic book store thinking I'd spend about $40... walked out after handing over $206 for all my purchases... @_@<br><br>I think the first step is admitting I have a problem. *laughs*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>02-03-2013, 02:22:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sheesh. I don't think I've spent that much on books at one time ever, except for textbooks.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>02-03-2013, 02:24:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7809787#msg7809787">Quote from: Karma on 02-03-2013, 02:22:03</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Sheesh. I don't think I've spent that much on books at one time ever, except for textbooks.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>It's not even the first time this year.&nbsp; I just ordered 25 book-type-books from Amazon back in January.<br><br>Though, about 10 of those are Philosophy books, so I mean... I don't think those count, right?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>02-03-2013, 02:25:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Not quite the same as buying 25 novels at once, I'd say.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>02-03-2013, 03:14:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Okay... just read the first part...<br><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Spoiler: A complaint/question I had...</div><div class="spoiler_body">Why the HELL would Zuko seek advice from Ozai over talking to Iroh?&nbsp; Ozai was a lunatic who tried to burn the world... Iroh's probably the wisest guy on the planet, with the arguable exception of that cucumber juice Guru guy... &gt;.&gt;<br><br>Hell, you can't even really argue that Ozai's just got the advice he needs for the role of Fire Lord.&nbsp; Before Ozai's betrayal, Iroh was the one being groomed as Fire Lord, anyhow... so, he knows what the responsibilities are. &gt;.&lt;<br></div></div>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>02-03-2013, 03:27:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Spoiler: Click to Show/Hide</div><div class="spoiler_body">I think it's rather important to note from this (and it's certainly mentioned in the show) just how much Zuko looks up to his father... and how much Zuko can justify things. He wants advice on being a Fire Lord, so he go talks to the last one there was. It's not totally stupid, either; defeating Ozai took no less than the Avatar. Despite Ozai's obvious mental shortcomings he was a successful ruler for many years. He also actually served as Fire Lord; Iroh never did. What Zuko wanted was experience, and Iroh never had the experience of running a nation. In fact, who else has? Arnook runs a much smaller nation, and the Earth King doesn't do anything. Advice isn't the only thing he's seeking, either, but you'll see about that.</div></div>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>02-03-2013, 04:04:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Kinda dig the little debate between Zuko and Ozai about Moral Absolutism vs Divine Command Ethics... would have liked to have seen that explored a little more. *laughs*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>02-03-2013, 04:04:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Definitely.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AribethAmkiir</strong> on <strong>02-03-2013, 09:45:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				At a loss for what to do with Toph at the moment.&nbsp; Contemplating Suki's entrance.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>02-03-2013, 11:09:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7811202#msg7811202">Quote from: AribethAmkiir on 02-03-2013, 09:45:31</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">At a loss for what to do with Toph at the moment.&nbsp; Contemplating Suki's entrance.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Yeah, I apologize for not having accounted for something for Toph to do.&nbsp; If you'd like, when I get my next post up, I'll have Zhao attempt to co-opt her and some Dai Li on his catch the avatar quest.&nbsp; I mean, it'd be outside of their usual role... but it would make sense tactically.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>02-03-2013, 15:46:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				sorry its taking so long for a first post on Aang. I assure you my normal posting rate is much, much much faster. but teh way this is going, however i write this first post could determine the whole direction of the game! talk about pressure ^_^;
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>02-03-2013, 17:34:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Aribeth, what about a post of Toph just going about her daily activities, to establish her character? Training metalbenders, dealing with prisoners, things like that. It doesn't really have to interact with anyone, but will give us an idea of what she'll be like.<br><br>apygoos: don't worry. The first one is always the toughest!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>02-03-2013, 20:03:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Flash-forward?<br><br>(http://25.media.tumblr.com/75c4db23ef212f2a1916445abf1e0d88/tumblr_mj0z8hfwzG1r0094to1_500.jpg)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>02-03-2013, 20:11:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				lol, opening scene, Aang re-enters the avatar state, lol
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>02-03-2013, 20:13:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				"Y'ALL BITCHES NEED TO CHILL OUT."
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>02-03-2013, 20:25:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7811694#msg7811694">Quote from: apygoos on 02-03-2013, 15:46:10</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">sorry its taking so long for a first post on Aang. I assure you my normal posting rate is much, much much faster. but teh way this is going, however i write this first post could determine the whole direction of the game! talk about pressure ^_^;<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>We set up the game hoping for a slow casual patient pace... so, I think you're good there. *laughs* Take your time and post something you feel happy with. :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>02-03-2013, 21:24:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Alright, so I read all 3 parts of "The Promise".&nbsp; The non-spoiler critique that I will give is that I love a LOT of the concepts they played around with for the story... Avatar was always good at exploring questions of morality, which is my favorite field of philosophy... but I feel like they only scratched the surface rather than really explored the issues.<br><br>I think that's just because they wanted to tell what should have been a very big story in 3 very short issues.<br><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Spoiler: Click to Show/Hide</div><div class="spoiler_body">But, I just wanna call "what the smurf" on introducing Azula right at the freaking end! &gt;.&gt; What am I reading an Avatar comic to see Aang and Zuko, or something?&nbsp; Jeez... leave the main character for a teaser.&nbsp; Tsk, tsk, comic.</div></div>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>02-03-2013, 21:47:23</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				They totally knew what they were doing. But hey, issue 1 of The Search is not far off.<br><br>I agree about the scope of it, and it's easy to tell they wanted to do more. It's half a season of story in what probably amounts to the length of one or two episodes. I suspect that if they could have gotten more, they would have.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>02-03-2013, 22:13:25</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7812903#msg7812903">Quote from: Karma on 02-03-2013, 21:47:23</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">They totally knew what they were doing. But hey, issue 1 of The Search is not far off.<br><br>I agree about the scope of it, and it's easy to tell they wanted to do more. It's half a season of story in what probably amounts to the length of one or two episodes. I suspect that if they could have gotten more, they would have.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>As much as I love Toph and Sokka, I feel like they could have made a much better story by not focusing on that part of the story.&nbsp; I don't feel it added anything but some scenes of Toph being Toph and Sokka having reverted back into his Season 1 personality.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>02-03-2013, 22:16:42</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm hoping that it combines with Suki's concern with Zuko to finally allow Tokka.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>02-03-2013, 22:22:05</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				I want to watch teh whoels eries over right now..Infact i just might. farewell weekend.<br>I have this and the game on RP to post for..I might do the Game on Post first as i have a pretty clear idea of what iwant done there, maybe while watching A:TLA ill get some inspiration for "what if" mode.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>02-03-2013, 22:24:14</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Let us know if you want some pointers or suggestions.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>02-03-2013, 22:25:13</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7813032#msg7813032">Quote from: Karma on 02-03-2013, 22:16:42</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'm hoping that it combines with Suki's concern with Zuko to finally allow Tokka.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Hidden for possible spoilers.</div><div class="spoiler_body">I don't think I would like that, honestly.&nbsp; Suki and Sokka have so much history and Suki and Zuko, in this context, comes completely out of nowhere... like I think they actually shared screen time in two episodes out of 3 seasons.&nbsp; One of them being him burning her village to the ground, and the other being when both of them were already attached... it just felt confusing and out of place for her to be all, "I'm concerned for <em>you</em>!"<br><br>Plus that leaves poor Mei out in the wind, when all she's done is be a good girlfriend and expect a measure of honesty out of him.</div></div><br>Edited... &gt;.&gt; hit the wrong button, sorry if it ruined anything for anybody.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>02-03-2013, 22:27:31</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				The spoiler thing didn't work, by the way. I agree there are tons of loose ends to Tokka - I think if it were to happen it would be years later, maybe even after Lin is born. I'm more inclined to believe they're dropping hints that it might happen as a wink and a nod to Tokka fans rather than truly intending to follow through on it (at least at this point in the timeline).
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>03-03-2013, 00:00:33</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7813080#msg7813080">Quote from: Karma on 02-03-2013, 22:27:31</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">The spoiler thing didn't work, by the way. I agree there are tons of loose ends to Tokka - I think if it were to happen it would be years later, maybe even after Lin is born. I'm more inclined to believe they're dropping hints that it might happen as a wink and a nod to Tokka fans rather than truly intending to follow through on it (at least at this point in the timeline).<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Hit the wrong button... sorry about that.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>03-03-2013, 01:08:22</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Spoiler: Click to Show/Hide</div><div class="spoiler_body">By the way, the Toph/Sokka plot (and really the whole story) is a setup/transition for Korra. It establishes bender families with multiple types of bending within them, metalbending being popularized, and if I recall correctly, that city ends up becoming Republic City.</div></div>
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>03-03-2013, 01:39:48</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7813808#msg7813808">Quote from: Karma on 03-03-2013, 01:08:22</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Spoiler: Click to Show/Hide</div><div class="spoiler_body">By the way, the Toph/Sokka plot (and really the whole story) is a setup/transition for Korra. It establishes bender families with multiple types of bending within them, metalbending being popularized, and if I recall correctly, that city ends up becoming Republic City.</div></div></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Spoiler: Click to Show/Hide</div><div class="spoiler_body">But it's the Aang&amp;Zuko plot that establishes families with multiple styles of bending in them.&nbsp; Toph never even meets the Fire Nation Earth Bender girl, and Sokka only meets the girl for a second to repeat the "it's funny when fat guys date hot girls" joke.&nbsp; The only person they have any sincerely profound effect on is Katara who sees them as a future reflection of Aang and herself.&nbsp; She isn't even involved in that side of the story until the last few pages when she's basically all "Fire Nation get out, I don't trust Zuko because he's a crazy jerk just like his dad!" despite the fact that in the series she was literally the only main character who had no reason not to trust Zuko.<br><br>We aren't told at all what happens to the city, but once again that was all the focus of the Aang&amp;Zuko plot.&nbsp; Though, I thought Republic City was on the water and Yu Dao is in a valley surrounded by mountains.&nbsp; Given how Zuko and the Earth King both got there, it actually seemed to be smack in the middle of a canyon.&nbsp; Granted, an Avatar has moved an entire city before, but we're not shown that's what happened in this story if it's supposed to be what happened.<br><br>I'll grant that the lines about "This is a new world we're building", as well as Aang making an active choice to distance himself from his past to make his own way, all poitn towards the kind of world that exists in Korra.&nbsp; But all of that stuff happens without Toph or Sokka's involvement.<br><br>Toph's story does establish her as teaching Metal Bending, but there didn't need to be a story involving 3 1-dimensional characters we don't even see Earth Bend fighting the "mean kids dojo" to establish that.&nbsp; It was already established in one page when they showed us the Beifong Metal Bending School... it's an entire reveal that could have been handled via exposition, "Hey Toph, what have you been doing?" "I'm teaching Metal Bending now... I love yelling at people." "Okay, wanna get involved in the main story?"<br><br>Honestly, it didn't really <em>need </em>to be established at all.&nbsp; The very fact that she discovers Metal Bending in the first place means it is possible, so when we flash forward 100 years into the future and see people Metal Bending we don't need it established that Toph taught it to 3 losers at a school and took up 1/3 of a far more important story to do so. *laughs*&nbsp; Once somebody can do something (barring a case where that person is something special like the Avatar) it can be assumed that other people will later come around to do it just as well or better, particularly when we're sliding down generations like this.&nbsp; We actually would have needed more of an explanation if there hadn't been Metal Bending in Korra, since that would require the entire Earth Kingdom outright ignoring or actively rejecting what is arguably the greatest advancement in their art.<br><br>I think it's far more likely they just didn't want to not include Sokka and Toph, but didn't know what to do with them so they wrote up a quick B-Plot and stuck it in there, or they had the story sitting around and it wasn't big enough to make a thing of its own so they made it the B-Plot in here.&nbsp; It happens all the time.&nbsp; But the problem with B-Plots is that if a story can be told with those elements completely removed and not lose anything of substance, you really have to ask yourself if it's worth keeping those parts in if you have to sacrifice time on the bigger story you're telling.&nbsp; Particularly given that Toph's story has more of a wrap-up than the story about Yu Dao.</div></div>
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>03-03-2013, 01:42:17</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry, I was terribly unclear. "It" was the whole story, not the Toph/Sokka plot. I agree generally though.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>03-03-2013, 12:39:13</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Hey all my weekends are fucked I work 12 hours sat-sunday. And 12 hours sun-monday and then another 4 hours on Monday afternoon so a post is reallllly hard. I can however post for Katara if you don't mind a post with out pictures I can post from my phone. But pictures will be hard to do. I can try to get one in today before work to. Again it will be trying at best but I'll work on it cause you were awesome enough to have Yuae come see me and make me not post to my self!!
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>03-03-2013, 14:30:51</strong>
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				Post whatever you're comfortable with. :)<br><br>Dibs on Kyoshi, if that ever comes up! &gt;_&gt;<br><br><hr><br>Posting code tip: You can use <div class="codeheader">Code: <a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="return smfSelectText(this);" class="codeoperation">[Select]</a></div><pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"><code class="bbc_code">[hr]</code></pre> to insert a horizontal rule. It'll scale to the screen size, whereas a line of = can be too large and throw off the post formatting. It looks like this.<br><br><hr><br>Idle thought for a potential NPC/background OC character: a lightbender.<br>
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>03-03-2013, 20:39:21</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				im sure you mean Avatar Kyoshi right?<br>I was acutally thinking what abotu people like Roku, Kyoshi and good ole King Bumi?
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>03-03-2013, 20:41:47</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah, Avatar Kyoshi. She's right up my alley.<br><br>Bumi is almost certainly working with the resistance, if he's still alive, though I'm not sure how openly he would be doing so. The Fire Nation was in a much stronger position this time around.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>03-03-2013, 20:50:40</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				As we saw in the show, He will just build up that neutral jing, he wont care if hes captured, lol. Hell for all we know down the line that is where Azula could fuck up, having him captive and Aang finding him, bumi spill the whole story..I'm sure Aang will make contact with Kyoshi at some point. For all i know the older Aang mgiht think that Roku may be too close to the issue, or maybe not, who knows.<br>I think my first post is going to have Aang covering quite a bit of ground. The question is which water tribe would Aang have been learning that water bending from..if anywhere there at all.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>03-03-2013, 20:52:21</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				It was the Southern. He wakes up in the same place he was in the show; see the post I made earlier in the OOC on the subject.<br><br>http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7787758#msg7787758 (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7787758#msg7787758)
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>03-03-2013, 20:54:15</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				okiedokie, then it will start there, move to the air temple..then an angry Aang storming his way across to find answers.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>03-03-2013, 20:56:22</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Sounds good! FYI, the Southern Tribe at the time was a city not too unlike the Northern; less resplendent and historied, of course. I'm not sure if that matters.<br><br>Plot possibility that I am shamelessly hijacking from the beautiful fanfic Memento Mori: (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5432322/1/Memento-Mori) chi-blocking bracelets and anklets made of purified metal so they can't be metalbent, commissioned by Azula and designed (somewhat against her will) by Ty Lee.<br><br>If anyone needs to contact me, I'm on YIM very much of the time.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>03-03-2013, 23:27:02</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7817854#msg7817854">Quote from: Karma on 03-03-2013, 20:56:22</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Sounds good! FYI, the Southern Tribe at the time was a city not too unlike the Northern; less resplendent and historied, of course. I'm not sure if that matters.<br><br>Plot possibility that I am shamelessly hijacking from the beautiful fanfic Memento Mori: (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5432322/1/Memento-Mori) chi-blocking bracelets and anklets made of purified metal so they can't be metalbent, commissioned by Azula and designed (somewhat against her will) by Ty Lee.<br><br>If anyone needs to contact me, I'm on YIM very much of the time.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I would see your magic bracelets (I'm not seeing why "purified" metal would be immune to metal-bending) and raise you the possibility of a kind of body brace.&nbsp; Something that puts constant pressure on the spots that Ty Lee would poke to cause them to be always-poked.&nbsp; And I would probably say made of wood or bonded beads rather than metal... wood is apparently immune to bending once it's no longer part of a tree, and would be faster to produce.<br><br>Though, I question the logic of Azula designing something that she would very easily see as a potential danger to herself.&nbsp; The body-brace idea has the merit of requiring somebody actually subdue the bender before hand.&nbsp; That seems like something Azula could more easily take measures to prevent becoming a victim of... not to mention being made of wood already seems to make it less effective against a Fire Bender, and most of those are still loyal to her.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>03-03-2013, 23:31:36</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				It's established somewhere in canon (maybe Korra) that it's specifically dirt that's being bent, and that metalbending is difficult but possible because the metal is impure.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>04-03-2013, 01:27:25</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7818568#msg7818568">Quote from: Karma on 03-03-2013, 23:31:36</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">It's established somewhere in canon (maybe Korra) that it's specifically dirt that's being bent, and that metalbending is difficult but possible because the metal is impure.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Isn't it the impurities in metal that make it strong, though?
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>04-03-2013, 01:38:13</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Ah yes, it was actually Toph who "perceived" the impurities in the metal and used that to bend it. Platinum is used in Korra to counteract metalbending. While it may not be as tough as alloy or impure metal, it's a hell of a lot tougher than wood, and it would be used on people that are under watch most of the time anyway. It would give them the "gift" of freedom of movement, though.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>04-03-2013, 01:45:29</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7819268#msg7819268">Quote from: Karma on 04-03-2013, 01:38:13</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Ah yes, it was actually Toph who "perceived" the impurities in the metal and used that to bend it. Platinum is used in Korra to counteract metalbending. While it may not be as tough as alloy or impure metal, it's a hell of a lot tougher than wood, and it would be used on people that are under watch most of the time anyway. It would give them the "gift" of freedom of movement, though.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>For Azula to design such a thing, though, it would imply an inside knowledge of Earth Bending that it doesn't seem she should have.&nbsp; She'd actively reject Iroh's philosophy of studying the other styles to improve one's own, I think.&nbsp; By Korra, it would make sense, there's been 100 years of people researching the styles and how they relate to one another.&nbsp; So if there was a weakness in the style, that too would have been discovered.&nbsp; As we stand, we only have the 1 Metal Bender, right?
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>04-03-2013, 01:51:56</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Toph has trained some of her force to metalbend. They're obviously not as talented as she is, but they exist. Question is, would Azula be able to get from Toph that sort of detail? I don't think it's necessarily unlikely, as while Toph is presently loyal, that doesn't mean she always will be.<br><br>The device itself isn't all that far-fetched. As there are particular points that can always be hit to disable bending, it stands to reason that keeping those spots permanently hit would permanently prevent bending. Would Azula consider that Toph or some subordinate metalbender might free someone wearing them? If not, then there's no reason to purify the metal.<br><br>For context, in the fanfic, there were heated discussions of what to do with Azula. Most wanted her executed to make a point, but Ty Lee, under the duress of the situation, decided that "castrating" her was better than killing her and proposed the manacles.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>04-03-2013, 02:08:41</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Avatar School Time Shipping (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuSshdGE1Lo#)
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>04-03-2013, 02:32:08</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Zuko lost to his alter ego... low blow.
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>04-03-2013, 02:40:30</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7819622#msg7819622">Quote from: Karma on 04-03-2013, 02:32:08</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Zuko lost to his alter ego... low blow.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>&nbsp;Zuko lost to his alter ego? Am I missing something?? XD
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>04-03-2013, 02:48:32</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Just so you know I finally figured it out and IMA total blonde :(&nbsp; also I really like the idea of metal chi blocking anklets!!
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>04-03-2013, 03:12:21</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7819709#msg7819709">Quote from: Ashena on 04-03-2013, 02:48:32</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Just so you know I finally figured it out and IMA total blonde :(&nbsp; also I really like the idea of metal chi blocking anklets!!<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>*will attempt to refrain from making commentary about blonds*<br><br>So... I'm guessing I'm the only one who doesn't like the bracelets? *laughs*&nbsp; I guess as long as there's something of a democracy goin' on here...
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>04-03-2013, 03:14:40</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, I want to reason it out as much as you. If they're illogical then they can go. We have enough fanservice in terms of relationships... xD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>04-03-2013, 03:43:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7819853#msg7819853">Quote from: Karma on 04-03-2013, 03:14:40</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Well, I want to reason it out as much as you. If they're illogical then they can go. We have enough fanservice in terms of relationships... xD<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>My issue is with Azula designing a weapon against which she has no immunity.<br><br>The reason she plays the game the way she does is because putting all the pieces in order builds a wall around her, she doesn't strike until she knows she's invulnerable to counter-attack basically.<br><br>The only way I could see that being something she'd commission is if she could replicate the process on her own, strictly regulate how they are manufactured and put on prisoners... and killed anybody else capable of duplicating the process.<br><br>Now, I could imagine Zuko's faction putting something like that together, though, with the express purpose of eventually putting it on Azula.&nbsp; Zuko always was the merciful type.&nbsp; And I could see Iroh understanding enough about bending in general to help design such a thing.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>04-03-2013, 03:51:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That makes sense. Of course her flaw is having already done this in the case of Ty Lee! Not that she can realize that. So, they're not out, but they aren't going on Katara... 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>04-03-2013, 03:54:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7820077#msg7820077">Quote from: Karma on 04-03-2013, 03:51:06</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">That makes sense. Of course her flaw is having already done this in the case of Ty Lee! Not that she can realize that. So, they're not out, but they aren't going on Katara...<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Ty Lee is a person, and she can (Mei's love for Zuko, notwithstanding) typically predict the behavior of a person.&nbsp; A tool has no will of its own and is at the mercy of anybody who holds it.<br><br>Now, you'd think that Azula would rather have the things that couldn't think on their own... but from her perspective, and she has the history of manipulation to back up the claim... people think what she wants them to think, typically.&nbsp; She can control their actions to some degree, or, like I said, at least predict them.<br><br>But anybody can do that with a tool.<br><br>I'm probably not saying the way it works out in my head.&nbsp; But basically, anybody who holds a tool has the same power over it as Azula would... the same can't be said about Ty Lee.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>04-03-2013, 03:56:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I get it, and it's so very true. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>04-03-2013, 04:08:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7820111#msg7820111">Quote from: Karma on 04-03-2013, 03:56:43</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I get it, and it's so very true.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Like you pointed out regarding Ty Lee's betrayal of Azula in the series, when Ty Lee "betrays" her it's an attempt to save her from doing something she can't take back.&nbsp; It's something Azula couldn't predict because, like Mei's behavior that spawned it, it's an act of love and devotion... something Azula only tangentially understands at best.&nbsp; And that act leaves her so broken and confused that it drives her insane.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>06-03-2013, 05:16:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				finally posted!<br>hope everyone enjoys the entrance of the Avatar :)<br>Not all my post will be this long im sure, but ..opening post and stuff..yea.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>06-03-2013, 05:40:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Welcome fully into the game! :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>06-03-2013, 06:05:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				It's so hard to find "teenage Aang" pictures. its easy to find everyone else -_-
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>06-03-2013, 06:06:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That's mostly why I did those image dumps earlier, to make sure everyone has at least a few they can use.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>06-03-2013, 06:15:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				i know but still, the small pool of pictures is disappointing, hehe
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>06-03-2013, 06:16:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				People seem to like to draw Aang in his 20s or 30s. It might be the goatee... makes him look older than he would at that age.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>07-03-2013, 05:19:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/003/9/5/avatar_the_last_airbender___south_park_by_faithless12-d4l75v3.png)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>07-03-2013, 21:28:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I have to admit I don't have any inspiration for where to take the Yue/Katara scene... ideas?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>07-03-2013, 21:46:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				well, would they have heard any of the commotion of a flying bison heading towards the fire captial?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>07-03-2013, 21:59:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				They wouldn't hear of it quickly in the tower, as that's generally off limits to most everyone and it wouldn't be vital for them to hear about it. I think I'll have Yue eventually leave after finishing the meal and show some of her daily life... she might hear about it that way. I don't know that she could take any action, though. Azula or her agents would certainly be on the scene first.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>07-03-2013, 22:05:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7842053#msg7842053">Quote from: Karma on 07-03-2013, 21:28:06</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I have to admit I don't have any inspiration for where to take the Yue/Katara scene... ideas?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Well, if I read Aang's post properly... Azula has a reason to go get Yue and Katara...<br><br>She wouldn't want to address the Avatar without her cabinet to show she represents all the remaining nations.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>07-03-2013, 22:07:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Good point. Shall I wait for you then?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>07-03-2013, 22:12:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				sounds good! cant wait for the next post in the story :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>07-03-2013, 22:19:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7842252#msg7842252">Quote from: Karma on 07-03-2013, 22:07:21</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Good point. Shall I wait for you then?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I'll try and get something out tonight or tomorrow... I think I've hit that point where I have too much on my plate and is really slowing me down. :(
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>07-03-2013, 22:20:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I know the feeling. I hope you don't have to make cuts.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>07-03-2013, 22:24:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7842330#msg7842330">Quote from: Karma on 07-03-2013, 22:20:12</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I know the feeling. I hope you don't have to make cuts.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>If I do, don't worry... this isn't high on the list of ones I'd drop.<br><br>I kinda have a hierarchy...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>07-03-2013, 22:26:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Haha, believe me, I understand that one <em>very</em> well. So should I have Yue go about her business, or keep them together?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>07-03-2013, 22:34:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7842365#msg7842365">Quote from: Karma on 07-03-2013, 22:26:48</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Haha, believe me, I understand that one <em>very</em> well. So should I have Yue go about her business, or keep them together?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I figured Azula would be fetching both of them.&nbsp; Probably along with Kuei and Jet.&nbsp; She'd want to show the Avatar a solidarity and unified world.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>07-03-2013, 22:36:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Right, the question is if I keep Yue in the same location as Katara. Azula can fetch them either way. I'm just not sure if there's in-universe time for her to leave.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>07-03-2013, 22:42:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*smirks* Azula will need to be very artful in her words...one slip up, and you could have the avatar state rampaging through the capital, i have yet to determine if seeing Yue or Katara will make him think of Soraka.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>07-03-2013, 22:45:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Azula will have the distinct advantage of having a Water Tribe princess that will speak in her favor. Giving Aang reason to attack may only get him killed...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>07-03-2013, 23:08:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				given the scheming&nbsp; nature of Azula, I'm sure It'll all be fine, I'm more curious to see if any subtle calls for help or something may come from Katara or Yue, or Jet or pretty much anyone else. I'm also curious to see the next post our of Iroh, Zuko, and Sokka
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>07-03-2013, 23:12:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think if anyone it'll be Katara... maybe Jet, but probably not right away if at all. I won't speak for Ashena, but in my own estimation Katara would be on the same page as Yue when it comes to protecting what few options they have left. Aang is probably the greatest potential help to the rebellion that they've ever seen, but that means that putting him in danger is completely out of the question. I mean, think about it: If Aang dies, the next Avatar will be a waterbender. That could well result in serious, possibly fatal repercussions for the Water Tribe. Everyone knows what happened the last time the Fire Nation went seeking the Avatar... Aang was the only one left.<br><br>Beyond that, they don't know him. Until they get a read on him as a person, they don't know what sort of threat he might present. If they bring him over and he's still too brash and angry, he might take actions that could doom the rebellion even though he's trying to help.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>07-03-2013, 23:18:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7842470#msg7842470">Quote from: apygoos on 07-03-2013, 22:42:43</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">*smirks* Azula will need to be very artful in her words...one slip up, and you could have the avatar state rampaging through the capital, i have yet to determine if seeing Yue or Katara will make him think of Soraka.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Because the Avatar state against Azula worked out so well for him in the past. *Tease*<br><br>(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090222133629/avatar/images/4/44/Aang_struck.png)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>07-03-2013, 23:18:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That is in fact what I was referring to. xD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>07-03-2013, 23:20:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				yes, i know that, but also, Aang has 4 additional years under him hat he used to train up as well, compared to that being only a few months.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>07-03-2013, 23:22:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				His repertoire is much smaller, though. No earthbending yet, and his waterbending is weak (and he might have hangups about using it, considering what happened). Air can't do anything about lightning other than get out of the way. Most importantly, though, is that he hasn't had any experience controlling the Avatar state. That could put him in some extremely vulnerable positions.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>07-03-2013, 23:37:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				i see Aang needing some Iroh XD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>07-03-2013, 23:39:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Agreed! The White Lotus is going to have a task on their hands convincing Aang to join their cause if he spends months or years under Azula's umbrella. Guru Pathik is out there somewhere too.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>08-03-2013, 01:52:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				..where is Bumi?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>08-03-2013, 01:54:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think Violence will have to answer that one, I'm not sure.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>08-03-2013, 01:56:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				King Bumi i think is probably one of the largest X factors in this story, this is why i ask.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>08-03-2013, 03:12:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7843510#msg7843510">Quote from: apygoos on 08-03-2013, 01:56:26</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">King Bumi i think is probably one of the largest X factors in this story, this is why i ask.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>If it's up to me... hm...<br><br>Part of me thinks it would make most sense for him to just be where he was before.&nbsp; In Omashu inside a metal cage, waiting for his moment to escape.&nbsp; The White Lotus is probably aware of him, I'd imagine, though... and I could also see them as having rescued him.<br><br>Of course, if Azula had known how dangerous he could become... she'd probably have had him executed.&nbsp; Never really made sense that he wasn't, honestly.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>08-03-2013, 03:50:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I chalked his living up to it being a kid's show and executions not really being okay. In this case though, executing him could cause significant ill will in the Earth Kingdom. That's bad juju for Azula's rule.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>08-03-2013, 04:12:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				besides, to most of the fire nation, they just saw him as a crazy old cooke
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>08-03-2013, 04:50:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7844122#msg7844122">Quote from: Karma on 08-03-2013, 03:50:50</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I chalked his living up to it being a kid's show and executions not really being okay. In this case though, executing him could cause significant ill will in the Earth Kingdom. That's bad juju for Azula's rule.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Except it wouldn't have been under Azula's rule that he was captured... it would have been under Ozai's.&nbsp; Azula's hands would be clean of it.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7844245#msg7844245">Quote from: apygoos on 08-03-2013, 04:12:57</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">besides, to most of the fire nation, they just saw him as a crazy old cooke<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>This is closer to a good reason for Azula, I think.&nbsp; But, I don't think Azula would really buy the act... he'd have a reputation.<br><br>But, given that he willingly surrendered (assuming Omashu was taken the same way) it wouldn't appear to be to anybody's benefit to execute him, I suppose.&nbsp; You don't execute a cooperating prisoner, generally speaking...<br><br><div class="spoiler_container"><div onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button" class="spoiler_header">Unrelated Commentary</div><div class="spoiler_body">Well... I guess they did kill Ned Stark...</div></div>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>08-03-2013, 04:55:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I don't think Azula or Ozai really conflate with Joffrey. *laughs*<br><br>True about Ozai. I don't know that Aang expected Bumi or anyone else to be alive, though. Aang just went to Omashu to show them the mail system. There's no reason for Azula to bring it up, either. If Bumi's dead, Aang might never find out.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>09-03-2013, 02:03:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Whew...<br><br>Finally got a post out... sorry it's taken so long.&nbsp; Hope that everything I did and established is okay.&nbsp; As always, lemme know if something needs changed. :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>09-03-2013, 02:53:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Great post. Not sure I can reply tonight, but I'll try. Should I handle the fetching of Yue and Katara?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>09-03-2013, 02:57:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7849645#msg7849645">Quote from: Karma on 09-03-2013, 02:53:43</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Great post. Not sure I can reply tonight, but I'll try. Should I handle the fetching of Yue and Katara?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I figured either when you next post Yue or when Ashena next posts Katara... hopefully one of you would just take note and have somebody have been sent for them.&nbsp; I didn't figure it was likely that Azula would go herself, you know?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>09-03-2013, 02:59:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah. I can handle the messenger and the travel. They already have a guard and contingency protection in the Lees.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>09-03-2013, 03:37:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				well, If Azula is Phoenix Queen, who is Fire Lord? wasn't the design to have the "supreme ruler" but still have a head of state for the respective nations? /knows it coudl just be as easy as Azula being both, but he, wanted to know.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>09-03-2013, 03:53:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7849901#msg7849901">Quote from: apygoos on 09-03-2013, 03:37:17</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">well, If Azula is Phoenix Queen, who is Fire Lord? wasn't the design to have the "supreme ruler" but still have a head of state for the respective nations? /knows it coudl just be as easy as Azula being both, but he, wanted to know.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>There's technically no position of "Fire Lord" any more.&nbsp; Or Earth King.&nbsp; Or Water... um... President?&nbsp; It would probably be Chieftain, right?&nbsp; They were a tribe.<br><br>Yue and Kuei both had to revoke their titles to sit at the council.<br><br>I don't think it was ever established who represents the Fire Nation on the council... but Azula's stance is that the "nations" are dissolved and there's only one unified empire now.&nbsp; I'm gonna have to change the shape of the table if we representatives from her nation as well... but I also don't know who those would be... *laughs*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>09-03-2013, 03:55:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, how about this? The position of Commons was created at the request of the other nations. The Fire Nation didn't request it (out of deference to or fear of Azula).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>09-03-2013, 03:59:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7850007#msg7850007">Quote from: Karma on 09-03-2013, 03:55:30</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Well, how about this? The position of Commons was created at the request of the other nations. The Fire Nation didn't request it (out of deference to or fear of Azula).<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>If I'd been thinking about it, I'd have put Zhao as representative of the Fire Nation Commons... but he's Commander of the Imperial Fleets... and it doesn't seem like he should hold both positions.<br><br>Just like I didn't want Mei representing the Nobility because she's Azula's imperial "diplomat" (hitwoman/enforcer, basically).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>09-03-2013, 04:03:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think we said before that we'd basically have to create a character for the Fire commons if we had one. Could just be a faceless person for now.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>09-03-2013, 04:05:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7850055#msg7850055">Quote from: Karma on 09-03-2013, 04:03:43</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I think we said before that we'd basically have to create a character for the Fire commons if we had one. Could just be a faceless person for now.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I feel like the Nobles could have been Sokka's swordmaster.&nbsp; Or Mei's mother or father.&nbsp; The commons, yeah, I don't know.&nbsp; There weren't a lot of Fire Nation persons introduced...<br><br>I guess it could be Shu... or his brother Doc...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>09-03-2013, 06:53:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				She could be a bitch and say its Zuko and blame him for all the shit that's happening placing more negative emotions into the avatar saying look he disrespects you still by not showing up. Yada yada...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>09-03-2013, 07:12:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7850964#msg7850964">Quote from: Ashena on 09-03-2013, 06:53:01</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">She could be a bitch and say its Zuko and blame him for all the shit that's happening placing more negative emotions into the avatar saying look he disrespects you still by not showing up. Yada yada...<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Well, she's already scapegoating him for everything else... what's one more thing.<br><br>I've gotta figure out a good shape for the table that still forces everybody to have to look at the empty side... so far leaning over a circle.&nbsp; Which, I guess also makes sense with the name "Table of the World".
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>09-03-2013, 07:18:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				What about a trapezoid, or the kind of table we normally see in government? Everyone sits on one side, where they can all easily look at each other, but if they all look forward, it's out at an area where they can hear pleas and such.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>09-03-2013, 07:31:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7851066#msg7851066">Quote from: Karma on 09-03-2013, 07:18:15</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">What about a trapezoid, or the kind of table we normally see in government? Everyone sits on one side, where they can all easily look at each other, but if they all look forward, it's out at an area where they can hear pleas and such.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I thought about that but the Trapezoid was the shape of the Earth Kingdom Flag.&nbsp; So I don't want that, I don't think.<br><br>It has to be a table with otherwise equal sides but with the empty Air Nomad side placed so that they can't really ignore that its there.&nbsp; I'm thinking a circle will work best.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>09-03-2013, 07:32:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Probably right.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>09-03-2013, 07:34:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7851129#msg7851129">Quote from: Karma on 09-03-2013, 07:32:43</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Probably right.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Well, I mean I <em>thought </em>the triangle worked best... but if we can't have the conquering nation sitting above the other nations... *laughs*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>09-03-2013, 08:06:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7851144#msg7851144">Quote from: Violence on 09-03-2013, 07:34:38</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Well, I mean I <em>thought </em>the triangle worked best... but if we can't have the conquering nation sitting above the other nations... *laughs*<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Lol true a circle works just fine. I can&nbsp; see Azula blaming it all on Zuko. It would make sense to further make it harder for Zuko to try and get the avatar on the resistance.<br><br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>09-03-2013, 08:08:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				The worst part is that in a way, the instability of the realm really <em>is</em> his fault.<br><br>What most don't really understand is that Azula is in danger of snapping and becoming an insane tyrant. Not many people understand this. That is what Zuko and Iroh are really fighting against.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>09-03-2013, 08:37:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7851293#msg7851293">Quote from: Karma on 09-03-2013, 08:08:06</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">The worst part is that in a way, the instability of the realm really <em>is</em> his fault.<br><br>What most don't really understand is that Azula is in danger of snapping and becoming an insane tyrant. Not many people understand this. That is what Zuko and Iroh are really fighting against.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Zuko- That bitch is already a crazy tyrant she needs to be stopped!!! Come join the resistance and help!- XD he he I mean what? * pats Zuko's head* its OK we all believe you
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>09-03-2013, 08:39:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				It's okay, Iroh is the one that usually does the convincing. :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>09-03-2013, 08:41:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7851387#msg7851387">Quote from: Karma on 09-03-2013, 08:39:45</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">It's okay, Iroh is the one that usually does the convincing. :P<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Iroh:&nbsp; There is an old Fire Nation saying about convincing.&nbsp; It goes that when the dragon... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz... wha?&nbsp; And that is why you never leave tea on the pot too long, Prince Zuko.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>09-03-2013, 08:43:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Err... yes, Uncle.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>09-03-2013, 08:43:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7851394#msg7851394">Quote from: Violence on 09-03-2013, 08:41:47</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Iroh:&nbsp; There is an old Fire Nation saying about convincing.&nbsp; It goes that when the dragon... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz... wha?&nbsp; And that is why you never leave tea on the pot too long, Prince Zuko.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Zuko: grumbling he rolls his eyes "yes of course uncle" 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>10-03-2013, 00:31:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Happier times.<br><br>(http://25.media.tumblr.com/8feda0ee3984c34a84481a2a303f9e0d/tumblr_mgjo1d6UlC1rz6xwuo1_500.gif)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>10-03-2013, 00:58:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				after Katara post, ill work on&nbsp; an Aang post, so /that/ portion of the story would keep moving, i dont foresee anything happening for a bit that would cause any further possible action in other story locations.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>10-03-2013, 00:59:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah, seems to me like you can reply whenever you like. He has to get to the council room before he's interacting with the rest of the PCs.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>10-03-2013, 12:03:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Fun little time passer if you're at a computer and wanna kill 10 minutes doing something Avatar related. (http://www.sporcle.com/games/tenepe/avatarcharactersbypic)<br><br>I got 27/30 without cheating... I didn't know the names of the Aang's previous lives before Kyoshi, and I didn't know the panda spirits name.&nbsp; But I recognize them.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>10-03-2013, 14:48:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I missed the same ones, plus Katara's grandmother.<br><br>http://dearkorra.tumblr.com/post/32078911951 (http://dearkorra.tumblr.com/post/32078911951)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>10-03-2013, 21:22:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7857671#msg7857671">Quote from: Karma on 10-03-2013, 14:48:13</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I missed the same ones, plus Katara's grandmother.<br><br>http://dearkorra.tumblr.com/post/32078911951 (http://dearkorra.tumblr.com/post/32078911951)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Well, to be fair, I only got the grandmother because it accepted Gran-Gran. *laughs*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>10-03-2013, 21:23:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I was a little miffed when it showed me that it would have taken that...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>11-03-2013, 01:09:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah 26/30 here :(, ah well it was close.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>11-03-2013, 01:15:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7860647#msg7860647">Quote from: Ashena on 11-03-2013, 01:09:15</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Yeah 26/30 here :(, ah well it was close.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Which ones did you miss?<br><br>Was it that panda?&nbsp; Cause smurf that panda...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>11-03-2013, 01:29:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7860691#msg7860691">Quote from: Violence on 11-03-2013, 01:15:33</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Which ones did you miss?<br><br>Was it that panda?&nbsp; Cause smurf that panda...<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Panda,Koh,jet, avatar kurok&nbsp; I can't believe I missed Koh and jet.&nbsp; &nbsp;I just forgot there names &gt;…&gt;
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>11-03-2013, 01:33:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7860758#msg7860758">Quote from: Ashena on 11-03-2013, 01:29:34</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Panda,Koh,jet, avatar kurok&nbsp; I can't believe I missed Koh and jet.&nbsp; &nbsp;I just forgot there names &gt;…&gt;<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>If you remembered that other Avatar, that's one on me, at least.&nbsp; I'll give you that.<br><br>Koh doesn't seem like that big of a miss.&nbsp; He's only in one episode.<br><br>So, I mean, Jet's really the only one you deserve a spanking over forgetting. *tease*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>11-03-2013, 01:48:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Jet was invited to Lake Laogai.<br><br>There is no Jet in Ba Sing Se.<br><br><hr><br>Lurking somewhere just offscreen...<br><br>(http://24.media.tumblr.com/7dbb8ae0cd4a9e1000c15420431e0dab/tumblr_mji2b5x5ci1r0tjypo1_500.png)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>19-03-2013, 03:22:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Okay, I posted Iroh so that me and Ash can get Zuko and Sokka and Iroh and Suki and the Kyoshi warriors all on their way to actually being able to participate in the story. *laughs*<br><br>Hopefully we get a good Jet and Suki player with the ad Karma put out. :)<br><br>Also, throwing this out for curiosity sake... wondering how Visna would feel about June being something of a double-agent.&nbsp; Working as a scout/assassin/etc for Azula but actually reporting on movements and what-have-you to Iroh and maybe taking her paycheck from the White Lotus?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>19-03-2013, 03:24:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I believe we discussed that... she'll have to weigh in for herself, of course.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Visna</strong> on <strong>19-03-2013, 03:40:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7908070#msg7908070">Quote from: Violence on 19-03-2013, 03:22:25</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Okay, I posted Iroh so that me and Ash can get Zuko and Sokka and Iroh and Suki and the Kyoshi warriors all on their way to actually being able to participate in the story. *laughs*<br><br>Hopefully we get a good Jet and Suki player with the ad Karma put out. :)<br><br>Also, throwing this out for curiosity sake... wondering how Visna would feel about June being something of a double-agent.&nbsp; Working as a scout/assassin/etc for Azula but actually reporting on movements and what-have-you to Iroh and maybe taking her paycheck from the White Lotus?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Sounds good to me. I don't have the time tonight, but tomorrow I'll try to read up on the entire thread and catch up.&nbsp; :-) 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>19-03-2013, 03:42:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				slowly working on getting an Aang post up
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>19-03-2013, 19:18:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs50/i/2009/261/2/8/Older_Toph_V_S__Older_Zuko_by_DarkKenjie.jpg)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Visna</strong> on <strong>20-03-2013, 01:05:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				So, where would June start? With Iroh or Azula?<br><br>Also, how should I go about entering as Mei?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>20-03-2013, 01:11:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				June may have been part of the rebels' Avatar search team, but working on her own and hot on Aang's trail. Maybe she was even the one to get the message sent back to Iroh. That would have her arriving at the capitol quite soon. Just a suggestion, though.<br><br>I think Mei would benefit from some introductory internal dialogue stuff, maybe reacting to the earlier scene with Azula and Ty Lee, then going about preparing for the upcoming meeting, and arriving after everyone else, fashionably late as usual.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Visna</strong> on <strong>20-03-2013, 01:54:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				So, June has been working for them both for some time then at the start then, correct? I have an idea in mind and I could probably post it soon.&nbsp; :-) Shall I?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>20-03-2013, 01:58:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7913378#msg7913378">Quote from: Visna on 20-03-2013, 01:54:18</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">So, June has been working for them both for some time then at the start then, correct? I have an idea in mind and I could probably post it soon.&nbsp; :-) Shall I?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>That works for me.&nbsp; I'll look forward to seeing what you have in mind.&nbsp; :-)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>20-03-2013, 04:13:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Empyrean will be joining us as Suki! :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>20-03-2013, 12:11:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				sorry for the long wait everyone, but i finally got out an Aang post i was happy with! :D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>20-03-2013, 14:44:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Woot!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>20-03-2013, 15:50:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				yus! i promise ill try to post much more frequently, *moves this RP to the top 5 priority list*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>20-03-2013, 21:00:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I will have a Zuko, Katara, and Toph post up today. I have been extremely busy the last few days and I have been exzusted. I promise though they will be up tonight. <br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>20-03-2013, 21:00:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Awesome! Looking forward to it.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>21-03-2013, 07:05:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				One up 2 to go
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>21-03-2013, 07:23:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7920705#msg7920705">Quote from: Ashena on 21-03-2013, 07:05:29</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">One up 2 to go<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Sounds dirty. *teasing*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>21-03-2013, 07:24:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				"My first girlfriend turned into the moon."<br><br>"Yeah, well, my girlfriend sucked thirty seven dicks."<br><br>"In a row?"
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>21-03-2013, 07:51:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				O_o
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>21-03-2013, 08:01:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Haven't seen Clerks huh?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>21-03-2013, 08:57:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I may have to post tomorrow with a comp. I just list a really long opening post for Toph that I was happy with and I am a sad panda :*(
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>21-03-2013, 08:58:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Eugh, that always blows. :(
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>21-03-2013, 09:05:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7920996#msg7920996">Quote from: Ashena on 21-03-2013, 08:57:48</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I may have to post tomorrow with a comp. I just list a really long opening post for Toph that I was happy with and I am a sad panda :*(<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Been there more times than I can count...<br><br>Definitely one of those "Man, now I gotta punch somethin'" moments... &gt;.&gt;<br><br>Or maybe I just have anger management issues. *laughs*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>21-03-2013, 09:06:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*roar* *punches pillow*. Yeah your right so much better
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>21-03-2013, 09:08:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7921015#msg7921015">Quote from: Ashena on 21-03-2013, 09:06:58</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">*roar* *punches pillow*. Yeah your right so much better<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Lost role play posts are why I'm not allowed to babysit anymore. &gt;.&gt;
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Empyrean</strong> on <strong>21-03-2013, 23:33:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Heya! I'll be playing Suki, nice to meet you all! :) 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>22-03-2013, 01:07:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Welcome! :D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>22-03-2013, 01:07:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hey hun, if you would like I will let you post before I post on Zuko. We are on a ship looking for the Avatar, but you would feel the ship turning around now as we head back towards the Fire nation. XD Up to you I can post now or wait. I figure I would be nice and wait though 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>22-03-2013, 01:30:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				the avatars emergence was in my first post by the by, if you wanted to know
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Empyrean</strong> on <strong>22-03-2013, 02:19:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Thanks! :)<br><br>I think I'll go after the Zuko post, so I have something to anchor Suki's present actions too. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>22-03-2013, 02:35:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7924497#msg7924497">Quote from: Empyrean on 22-03-2013, 02:19:32</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Thanks! :)<br><br>I think I'll go after the Zuko post, so I have something to anchor Suki's present actions too.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>If you guys want, I'll meet you in the middle and post Sokka to give Suki an intro so that Zuko can have Suki already active when he goes up?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>22-03-2013, 02:42:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah that works for me Violence. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>22-03-2013, 03:12:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				welp, toph seems exactly in the place she probably would be having not met Aang 4 years ago.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>22-03-2013, 03:27:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I dig that Toph and the Dai Li move around the city like brick walls ain't no thing...&nbsp; :D<br><br>I'll try to get a Sokka post up in a little bit so that Suki has an easy intro.&nbsp; Gives us a chance to establish a difference between how they are in this world and how they ended up in the main world, too.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>22-03-2013, 03:31:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Makes me wonder what Azula's countermeasures are in her own chambers.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>22-03-2013, 03:43:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7924895#msg7924895">Quote from: Karma on 22-03-2013, 03:31:52</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Makes me wonder what Azula's countermeasures are in her own chambers.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Oh, good point.<br><br>I'mma have to think about that.<br><br>I don't think she'd trust just the "purified metal" method.&nbsp; But she might not have any other option...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>22-03-2013, 03:56:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Like... make it out of wood, maybe? But that would just burn down with one outburst of passion.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>22-03-2013, 04:02:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7925007#msg7925007">Quote from: Karma on 22-03-2013, 03:56:27</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Like... make it out of wood, maybe? But that would just burn down with one outburst of passion.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I'm thinking have layered walls. So that no one element can get through effectively.&nbsp; So you'd have to get multiple powerful benders into the Capital and past all her guards.<br><br>Then you gotta get past Ty Lee, too.<br><br>You know... or be the Avatar.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>22-03-2013, 05:22:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*plots destruction of the palace for much later in the plot*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>22-03-2013, 05:25:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I was hoping it would be OK. I was thinking why would she make a trip longer when she could bend her way there. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>22-03-2013, 05:25:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				It's totally something Toph would do!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>22-03-2013, 05:29:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Purified metal, water, purified metal.&nbsp; That way if anyone got past the first block they would make the water leak out unless they had a water bender with them. But if Azula came in and saw water everywhere she would know what's up.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>22-03-2013, 06:10:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7925383#msg7925383">Quote from: apygoos on 22-03-2013, 05:22:22</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">*plots destruction of the palace for much later in the plot*<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Honestly?&nbsp; I'd be disappointed if it didn't happen...<br><br>If there's one thing Avatar needed it was more razed cities.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>22-03-2013, 07:13:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Who knows, if the wrong thing gets said here...<br>Avatar Roku may end up taking the reigns..or who knows..Kyoshi maybe even..either way, Yue and Katara could potentially have an escape route among the chaos. All i know is, if you thought the raging avatar state of an eleven year old was bad, wait till you see a sixteen year old avatar state rage fit, just the raw power and destruction in my head...yummy..
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>22-03-2013, 07:14:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Let's not blow our load too early...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>22-03-2013, 07:25:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				but that tongue of yours works in such an expert fashion...<br>also spontaneous disturbing thought. If some how we see Aang going at it with Kyoshi...is that technically masturbation? XD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>22-03-2013, 07:26:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				More like incest, I'd say.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>22-03-2013, 07:32:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				well i guess that would be the other side of the coin huh..
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>22-03-2013, 07:43:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7925919#msg7925919">Quote from: apygoos on 22-03-2013, 07:13:17</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Who knows, if the wrong thing gets said here...<br>Avatar Roku may end up taking the reigns..or who knows..Kyoshi maybe even..either way, Yue and Katara could potentially have an escape route among the chaos. All i know is, if you thought the raging avatar state of an eleven year old was bad, wait till you see a sixteen year old avatar state rage fit, just the raw power and destruction in my head...yummy..<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Well, if the wrong thing got said in this meeting, I'd imagine Aang would probably be on the bad side of that...<br><br>He's in a room with Azula, Zhao, Ty Lee and all her sisters, Toph, Jet and several benders from every school except his own... (I'm not counting Yue or Kuei just because their combat capabilities are unknowns)<br><br>Even if we assume Katara jumped to his side (which is a wild-card given that Aang and she have no history and she might choose the devil she knows over the Avatar-state she doesn't) they're still drastically out-gunned for the time being.<br><br>Plus Avatar state always takes a minute to charge up like a Diesel engine. *laughs* That's plenty of time for some Lee-pokeys or Azula to bring the lightning.<br><br>Granted, you could argue that they wouldn't know what was happening at the time... but any time somebody starts glowing and roaring and floating off the ground, the follow-up is very rarely cake and iced cream.&nbsp; I think somebody would probably take the shot just to be safe, even if it wasn't Azula herself.&nbsp; I mean, she's not Vegeta.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>22-03-2013, 07:44:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				haha, but this isnt even my final form!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>22-03-2013, 08:03:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Idea: A Phoenix Queendom expo, where the Avatar (and whoever's interested... or can afford it) can view the current state of the world's bending and technology.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>22-03-2013, 08:35:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				interesting idea. sounds like something Azula will completly make up on the spot riht there in that meeting.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>26-03-2013, 20:54:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm gonna try and get a Sokka post out tonight.&nbsp; And maybe an Azula.<br><br>I've just got family in town stressing me the fuck out, and I just found out I need 2 weeks in a row worth the writing submissions for my Writing Class.&nbsp; So I haven't been able to get to the computer much... and when I have, I've needed to try and work on novel scenes.<br><br>Sincerest of apologies.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>26-03-2013, 21:00:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ha, I was about to post asking who should go next. Take care of yourself! 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>28-03-2013, 14:16:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*licks thread*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>28-03-2013, 16:59:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Way to get it all dirty and wet!!! I am not sure who we are waiting on. I was hoping Suki would be able to post but I shall have one in tomorrow regardless for Zuko.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>28-03-2013, 18:10:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7959257#msg7959257">Quote from: Ashena on 28-03-2013, 16:59:27</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Way to get it all dirty and wet!!! I am not sure who we are waiting on. I was hoping Suki would be able to post but I shall have one in tomorrow regardless for Zuko.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Me... I think everybody's still waiting on me.<br><br>Suki was hoping for me to post Sokka first... I think everybody else needs me to post Azula.&nbsp; I'll try to get something out tonight.&nbsp; I couldn't do it the last couple days because I've had two big writing assignments I had to work on... :(<br><br>I technically have two more still... but I think I can take it easy for a day.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>28-03-2013, 18:27:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Visna's gone for a few days so don't wait on Mei, at least.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>29-03-2013, 09:52:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Intriguing take on Sokka - without those formative experiences with the Gaang, his preconceptions would have far less chance to be shattered. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>29-03-2013, 09:55:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7964482#msg7964482">Quote from: Karma on 29-03-2013, 09:52:31</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Intriguing take on Sokka - without those formative experiences with the Gaang, his preconceptions would have far less chance to be shattered.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>He's had no positive experiences with women excepting perhaps his sister... who he still views as somebody who needs his protection.&nbsp; I'd imagine, if anything, he's even less fond of women... given that the world is in this state, right now, because of a woman.<br><br>Plus, I wanted a reason why he might not be trying to make a move on Suki if we're doing that whole Suki/Zuko thing.&nbsp; Which makes me sad... :'( *sad Violence*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>29-03-2013, 09:57:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				He doesn't have to like her to want her. This is messy stuff. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>29-03-2013, 09:58:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7964501#msg7964501">Quote from: Karma on 29-03-2013, 09:57:02</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">He doesn't have to like her to want her. This is messy stuff.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>No.&nbsp; But he needs to justify a reason, to himself, why he wouldn't make a move if he did.&nbsp; So she isn't the beautiful warrior... she's the painted slut.&nbsp; He projects an image onto her of somebody he wouldn't want to keep from acting on desires that could undermine his cause.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>29-03-2013, 09:59:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ah, gotcha. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>29-03-2013, 10:03:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I hope it's okay that I gave Sokka a non-canon weapon.<br><br>I'm trying to model him in the fashion of a Jiang Wei.&nbsp; Not really the best at anything, but better than most at lots of things.&nbsp; And a true paragon of lost causes...<br><br>Also, I thought it would be pretty cool to have a small six-shot crossbow... &gt;.&gt;
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>29-03-2013, 10:06:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				What I was meant to say before is that just because Suki and Zuko are together now doesn't mean it has to stay that way. Nothing is set in stone.<br><br>I gots no probs with the weapon! 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>29-03-2013, 10:20:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				yay sokka
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>29-03-2013, 10:23:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7964541#msg7964541">Quote from: Karma on 29-03-2013, 10:06:59</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">What I was meant to say before is that just because Suki and Zuko are together now doesn't mean it has to stay that way. Nothing is set in stone.<br><br>I gots no probs with the weapon!<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Hey, all things considered, I'm better playing a role where I want something I can't have, anyways. *laughs*<br><br>Story of my life, right?<br><br>Cool cool... Zhuge Liang's legacy lives on!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>29-03-2013, 10:42:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Very pleased to have discovered these guys recently...<br><br>And depending on how things go with Aang, it could be game appropriate...<br><br>VNV Nation - Darkangel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3-IPG-XnaU#)<br><br>"I only come here seeking peace.&nbsp; I only come here seeking me......&nbsp; It seems I came to leave."<br><br>I will try to post Azula tomorrow if I can get the time.&nbsp; Sorry about my even slower than usual slowness...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>29-03-2013, 16:58:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				&lt;3 VNV. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Empyrean</strong> on <strong>29-03-2013, 22:32:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Nice and interesting Sokka post. I'll post up something for Suki later today or maybe this weekend. :) 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>03-04-2013, 16:38:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*pokes*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>03-04-2013, 17:52:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Is there something you'd like to discuss? 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>03-04-2013, 17:56:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				well..making sure everyone is alive &gt;.&lt;
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>03-04-2013, 23:00:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7995228#msg7995228">Quote from: apygoos on 03-04-2013, 17:56:50</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">well..making sure everyone is alive &gt;.&lt;<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I'm not.&nbsp; I gave somebody a ride home the other day and never made it back to my place.&nbsp; Some people say my spirit still haunts the 215...<br><br>I hope that some day the Winchesters or Asakura Yoh will help me find rest in the hereafter... and reunite me with somebody on the other side.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>03-04-2013, 23:02:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That explains the ballet slippers I keep seeing everywhere.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>04-04-2013, 00:17:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				lol, also are we still seeking a jet playet?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>04-04-2013, 00:18:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I guess so. Glyph never replied.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>04-04-2013, 18:34:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I had a 68 hour work week, and yesterday was my only day off. I literately slept all day. I am so sorry all, I will get a post up for Zuko later tonight or tomorrow. I promise.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>04-04-2013, 18:57:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				No worries! Get all the rest you need.<br><br>Here's some Toph lookin' fly.<br><br>(http://th06.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/342/f/e/tof_by_kuroy_kanon-d5nes62.jpg)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Glyph</strong> on <strong>05-04-2013, 05:41:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg7996963#msg7996963">Quote from: Karma on 04-04-2013, 00:18:56</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I guess so. Glyph never replied.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>My bad my life has been terribly busy in the past days. All of my apologies for wasting your time.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>05-04-2013, 06:02:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				You're still welcome to have at it!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>08-04-2013, 05:02:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I don't know if anybody else is as big on character design as I am... so, maybe I'm the only one that will find this awesome... but I had to share, regardless.<br><br>I was looking through pictures, trying to figure out what I wanted to do for a new Avatar when I noticed something.<br><br>(http://elliquiy.com/elluiki/images/0/0e/Ty-lee-azula-and-mai-in-disguise.jpg)(http://elliquiy.com/elluiki/images/f/ff/Suki-avatar-the-last-airbender-15715351-451-402.jpg)(http://elliquiy.com/elluiki/images/6/66/Katara-painted_lady.png)(http://elliquiy.com/elluiki/images/4/4c/June-avatar-the-last-airbender-15715254-290-362.jpg)(http://elliquiy.com/elluiki/images/7/70/Yue-avatar-the-last-airbender-15715104-331-321.jpg)<br><br>Obviously I don't need to introduce everybody... but I'm gonna...<br><br>Left to right:&nbsp; Ty Lee, Azula, Mei (in Kyoshi Make-up); Suki (Kyoshi Make-up); Katara (as the Painted Lady); June; Princess Yue.<br><br>So, why did I post everybody wearing make-up?&nbsp; It's because the art style they used leaves the lips blank when the characters aren't wearing make-up. (Azula and Suki are the only members of the primary cast that always have their lips painted).&nbsp; And it was the lips that were the first thing that I noticed.<br><br>Every character has her own... <em>unique</em>... cupid's bow.&nbsp; That's the shape of the upper lip.&nbsp; They actually all have completely unique lip/mouth-shapes entirely.&nbsp; There is a little bit of similarity between Katara's and Yue's, but that could be because of similar racial background.&nbsp; But even still, "similar" isn't "same".&nbsp; The two have different overall shapes.<br><br>I was once called insane for doing that with character designs... because that kind of detail is such a pain in the ass for artists to work with.&nbsp; Keeping in mind that I was trying to character design for something that would be still images, the artists wouldn't have to work with nearly as much repetition and memorization as with an animated project.<br><br>Quite simply, though, that is an insane amount of detail put to character design.&nbsp; And in a medium where you're allowed to get away with just slapping different hair on the same body over and over again and calling her a new character.&nbsp; And even more so when you take into account that Avatar defined certain characteristics as belonging to given nationalities (blue eyes to water tribe, for example... fair skin to fire nation, amber eyes to fire nation royalty, dark skin to water tribe, etc).&nbsp; But what if it's just these still frames?&nbsp; What if it just happened to be a happy accident based on when these stills were taken?<br><br>Well, I can go beyond that, too.&nbsp; Each character has a unique head-shape.&nbsp; Each girl has a unique bust/waist/hip ratio.&nbsp; There are variations in the eye-shape between characters (though, honestly, not as much as there are in other features).&nbsp; Hell, look at Ty Lee, Azula and Mei up there... they each have a unique nose!&nbsp; When's the last time you saw any animated anything where each character had a unique nose?!&nbsp; The only other cartoon I can think of that came close to this much variation in design was X-Men: Evolution... which apparently only I thought was a good show. &gt;.&gt;;<br><br>Sorry... this just had me really fascinated.&nbsp; And I think every cartoon that recycles designs from here on needs to apologize for laziness. &gt;.&gt;<br><br>Though, I will confess that this one doesn't do a lot of screwing around when it comes to hair color... characters almost entirely pick between brown or dark brown.&nbsp; Apparently hair-color choices in Avatar world are the same as the color pallet in a modern shooter game.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>08-04-2013, 05:03:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				To be fair, hair color is just as monotonous in the real world, too. These are great observations, though!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>08-04-2013, 05:04:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				rawr! what an observation!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>08-04-2013, 05:11:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg8019652#msg8019652">Quote from: Karma on 08-04-2013, 05:03:58</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">To be fair, hair color is just as monotonous in the real world, too. These are great observations, though!<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I know.&nbsp; I'm just saying there's no red or yellow hair color in Avatar world (which, admittedly, are just reduced shades of brown when they occur in real people, I know).&nbsp; But, you know, for somebody who really appreciates fair hair... lol<br><br>I'm pretty sure I could continue it into Korra, too... but I did all my poking around at images of the classic series.&nbsp; Also, I don't know anybody's name in Korra to look them up. ^.^;;<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg8019659#msg8019659">Quote from: apygoos on 08-04-2013, 05:04:47</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">rawr! what an observation!<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Thanks. :)&nbsp; I get obsessed with character design stuff, sometimes.&nbsp; I'd actually be really intrigued to see the design notes on these.<br><br>I'd love to know if the shapes for the designs of things like lips, noses, faces and body-types were chosen just on a whim, or if they were chosen because of the emotional response it would elicit out of the viewer?<br><br>Also potentially noteworthy... Azula's breasts are actually larger than June's.&nbsp; But June is dressed more consistently to show them off.&nbsp; I think Ty Lee actually has the largest of the cast, with Azula not far behind. &gt;.&gt;&nbsp; I notice that for... you know... character design reasons.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>08-04-2013, 05:15:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Korra has a much smaller cast so far, being a shorter series with a smaller scope. The only prominent young female character are Korra and Asami, for the moment. Korra's twin cousins are joining in the next season, and hopefully other women as well. It's a bit of a sausage fest right now... You could also compare Pema and Lin, but they're in middle age, so I don't know how helpful a comparison that is.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>08-04-2013, 05:20:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Korra I couldn't find with make-up.&nbsp; Though, she definitely has a unique face-shape.&nbsp; And Asami definitely continues backing up my theory on unique cupid's bows, as well as unique facial features all around...<br><br>(http://elliquiy.com/elluiki/images/b/b6/Asami_Sato.png)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>08-04-2013, 05:22:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Delicious Asami.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>08-04-2013, 05:24:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				She's alright, I suppose.&nbsp; She sure ain't no Azula. *sigh* But, then again... who is?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>08-04-2013, 05:26:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				They are not conflicting interests. &gt;_&gt;
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>08-04-2013, 05:31:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I will say, of Korra, she has the most athletic and defined figure of the female characters from the franchise.&nbsp; She has the body of a soccer player or a runner.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>08-04-2013, 05:33:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				She may be a rich heiress, but she's no slouch in the physical performance department. The teen and adult women of Korra make me really want to see the Gaang five or six years later.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>08-04-2013, 05:38:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg8019862#msg8019862">Quote from: Karma on 08-04-2013, 05:33:13</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">She may be a rich heiress, but she's no slouch in the physical performance department. The teen and adult women of Korra make me really want to see the Gaang five or six years later.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I mean Korra, herself.&nbsp; She has an athlete's body.&nbsp; Is Korra an heiress?<br><br>(http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/26200000/Legend-of-Korra-avatar-the-legend-of-korra-26292870-1280-914.jpg)<br><br>She's not like ripped, or anything... like a body builder.&nbsp; But she's very defined in a way that most of the other girls aren't.&nbsp; I think she might be the water tribe girl I'd most like to bring back to the tent... without offense to Katara.&nbsp; Though, Katara is probably the better lover.<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>08-04-2013, 05:39:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh, whoops. I thought you meant "of the show," sorry. No, Asami is the heiress.<br><br>Korra was inspired in part by Gina Carano and one of the creators' sisters who was into MMA. An image from the animation studio revealed that they've been using Alison Stokke as direct reference.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>08-04-2013, 05:44:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg8019905#msg8019905">Quote from: Karma on 08-04-2013, 05:39:33</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Oh, whoops. I thought you meant "of the show," sorry. No, Asami is the heiress.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Asami has a very soft and feminine look from what I'm seeing.&nbsp; She looks like she takes care of herself, honestly all the characters do... but Korra looks like she hits the gym.<br><br>And something that I'm really enjoying when I look at her design, is that romantically she's still always portrayed as very soft and almost submissive.&nbsp; It's such a marked juxtaposition compared to that design... but it feels natural given her character.<br><br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Korra was inspired in part by Gina Carano and one of the creators' sisters who was into MMA. An image from the animation studio revealed that they've been using Alison Stokke as direct reference.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>She looks it.&nbsp; I would believe that.<br><br>There really needs to be awards for character design... because these people deserve something.&nbsp; I'm so inspired when I look over all the different body types.&nbsp; I'm trying to find more of the design sheets like that one of Korra.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>08-04-2013, 06:05:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hmm... I think Sokka, Katara, Iroh, and Ty Lee are probably the best lovers.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>08-04-2013, 06:21:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg8020057#msg8020057">Quote from: Karma on 08-04-2013, 06:05:59</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Hmm... I think Sokka, Katara, Iroh, and Ty Lee are probably the best lovers.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I say this actually playing the guy... Sokka would be a terrible lover!&nbsp; He stumbles over things too much, and he lacks the personal confidence to really take things.&nbsp; He only works with a girl like Suki that's willing to be the aggressor in a situation, because Sokka talks the talk but doesn't know how to really go for what he wants.<br><br>Katara would be <em>amazing</em>.&nbsp; She's a definite pleaser, but not unwilling to make sure you know what she wants out of the experience.<br><br>Iroh, I might be inclined to agree with you.&nbsp; If just because he's got the experience, the wisdom, and a body that can break through steel bars without firebending...<br><br>Ty Lee... I think she could be good, but like Sokka she has to have the right partner for it.&nbsp; She needs somebody like Azula... somebody that's going to completely take control of the situation.&nbsp; She's a pleaser like Katara... but without Katara's confidence and spirit, so she's less likely to get creative and try something unless her partner brings it up.&nbsp; Ty Lee is the type of girl that's probably had a lot of disappointing sex, but never been bitchy enough to tell her partner about it.<br><br>Zuko (post season 3, anyways) would probably be pretty good.&nbsp; He has the confidence to know what he's doing, but the sensitivity only to follow through on things his partner is responding to.&nbsp; Plus he's got kind of a charming personality by then, and he's definitely the guy that could turn a "maybe later" into a "yes, yes, please now!"<br><br>Mei needs a partner like Zuko who's very in tune and sensitive.&nbsp; She's probably in the mood more than she lets on, and has a hard time expressing her desires or communicating them.&nbsp; She needs somebody that can read her moods and will respond accordingly, but I think she's actually a pretty good lover once she's there.<br><br>Toph knows what she wants.&nbsp; Toph takes what she wants.&nbsp; She is somebody that isn't ashamed about the fact she didn't see the guy/girl again after she fucked 'em.&nbsp; She likes it messy, and she won't hesitate to tell you that.&nbsp; And may whatever god you believe in help you if you can't keep up.&nbsp; Toph would make a lover watch while she fucked other partners... and she won't hesitate to mock a lover if they suck at it.<br><br>Suki... firm and passionate.&nbsp; I think she likes to play the part of the girl, though, given how much she has to take on the role of a warrior outside of the bedroom.&nbsp; She's assertive, but submissive... she'll coach just enough to get a partner to take charge.<br><br>Aang... I'm not sure.&nbsp; On the one hand, he has generations of experience as both sexes to have an instinct for what he should be doing... on the other hand... he's very immature and seems like he'd goof around too much or be too unsure of what he was doing to really do the best he could.&nbsp; He probably got better as he got older, though.&nbsp; Especially since he was with somebody like Katara... who, as we established, would be amazing.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>08-04-2013, 06:23:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I was thinking of each character in an ideal situation, I suppose, not really general-purpose lovin'. For Sokka, how he was at the end of ATLA, and not how he is here.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>08-04-2013, 06:27:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg8020142#msg8020142">Quote from: Karma on 08-04-2013, 06:23:25</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I was thinking of each character in an ideal situation, I suppose, not really general-purpose lovin'. For Sokka, how he was at the end of ATLA, and not how he is here.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Sokka with Suki would be pretty good... I mean, she certainly seemed satisfied, and she did sneak into his tent for playtime when she could have excused herself.&nbsp; But I don't know that, even in an ideal situation, you could say Sokka would be the best.&nbsp; He would probably be a fair-to-decent partner, overall... once he was broken of that whole chauvinist streak.&nbsp; He's somebody who wants to be of value to his partner as much as he wants anything else out of her, so he's not going to just expect things... he's going to be the guy that does something great for your birthday and remembers your anniversary... but he's also going to be the guy that embarrasses you in front of your friends and parents.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>08-04-2013, 06:36:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I don't disagree with your points. I guess we just have different impressions.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>08-04-2013, 06:40:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				It occurs to me that I did all that and didn't mention Azula...<br><br>Azula is going to be very VERY good at making sure Azula is satisfied with an encounter.&nbsp; If her partner has an orgasm, too... or even survives intimacy... well that's wonderful for them.&nbsp; I think she's fascinated and aroused by rape, but never actually experimented with it herself... she likes mind-games more than physical conquests... so she'd be more about seducing a previously unwilling partner.&nbsp; She'd likely be even better at getting that "yes please" out of a partner than her brother, but unlike her brother, she's not going to shy away from making sure you regret it... and she might break your heart just for shits and giggles.<br><br>To clarify, Azula likes pain.&nbsp; But specifically, she LOVES emotional and psychological pain.&nbsp; The physical act of rape probably holds little appeal... but the aftermath and long-lasting psychological scars probably makes her purr.<br><br>There are exceptions, of course.&nbsp; She treats her lovers like property... and Ty Lee is treasured property.&nbsp; Ty Lee's pain actually causes Azula to feel negative things... I don't think she likes it, at all.&nbsp; At least not in the same way.&nbsp; But she's probably still a little bit of a sadist in bed, even with her wife.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>08-04-2013, 06:42:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg8020208#msg8020208">Quote from: Karma on 08-04-2013, 06:36:19</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I don't disagree with your points. I guess we just have different impressions.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>It would also depend largely on what somebody would want out of a partner, obviously.&nbsp; When I say Katara would be amazing, I'm saying that because she would be receptive and attentive... and she'd likely be very eager about providing oral sex.&nbsp; Those things might not do anything for somebody else.&nbsp; They might rather have somebody like Toph.<br><br>Different experiences, but hard to honestly quantify them as "better" or "worse".
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>08-04-2013, 16:16:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				however, the Aang in /this/ story has a bit more experience with&nbsp; women, not much, just a bit. This aspect though is something that im going to explore in Aang's character when the opportunity arises, as I'm sure he will have many opportunities. <br>also, when can we expect an Azula post?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Visna</strong> on <strong>09-04-2013, 00:51:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That was an interesting discussion. <br><br>In other news...<br><br>(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/544651_465601996843152_1964632334_n.jpg)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>11-04-2013, 04:59:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ln7s1dLP751qga91fo1_500.png)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>11-04-2013, 05:00:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				whar be azulaa?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>11-04-2013, 22:45:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Azula is dealing with the last stretch of a semester... and yet another writing assignment from her player's writing group (my professor loves my work and I keep getting the open slot whenever anybody skips class).<br><br>Hopefully Azula will be posted this weekend.&nbsp; But I need to get through my submission for one writing class, and an essay for another. :/
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>11-04-2013, 22:46:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Don't worry about us, take all the time you need.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Empyrean</strong> on <strong>12-04-2013, 21:10:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hi all. I'm back after a bout of internet trouble. Sorry for any delay in posting.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>12-04-2013, 21:31:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg8047625#msg8047625">Quote from: Empyrean on 12-04-2013, 21:10:17</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Hi all. I'm back after a bout of internet trouble. Sorry for any delay in posting.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Don't worry... the only delay has been from me... ^.^;;
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>14-04-2013, 05:25:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Work's mostly done (or at least ahead enough that I can relax for some of the impending evening) ... I'm gonna make a sandwich, and then at the very least you all will get an Azula post from me.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>14-04-2013, 05:33:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				:D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>14-04-2013, 07:11:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hope it was worth the wait.&nbsp; Lemme know if it needs editing... I tried to take everybody into consideration and give everybody at least a gesture to react to.<br><br>Also, just as a head's up... in the future, Zhao's only supposed to be posted by Karma and me.&nbsp; We hadn't intended him to be an NPC in the strictest sense, he exists to keep plot stuff moving. o.o;&nbsp; My fault for not expressing that before, though.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>14-04-2013, 07:16:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				And Azula, with the power of Heart! Go Planet!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>14-04-2013, 07:22:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg8055841#msg8055841">Quote from: Karma on 14-04-2013, 07:16:54</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">And Azula, with the power of Heart! Go Planet!<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Give Azula a crowd and a platform to speak on... and she'll have an army.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>15-04-2013, 05:05:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hm, who should post next?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>15-04-2013, 05:10:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg8060379#msg8060379">Quote from: Karma on 15-04-2013, 05:05:29</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Hm, who should post next?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I imagine Ty Lee prolly wants to go before Aang, give Aang more stuff to respond to.&nbsp; Katara and Yue aren't really necessary, but couldn't hurt... I tried to give everybody in the room something to react to, at least. ^.^;;
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>15-04-2013, 05:10:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah, there were plenty of hooks, I just wasn't sure which to take in what order.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>15-04-2013, 12:36:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I will post before Friday on Katara and Toph after Friday please expect major delay in any and all responces from me till may 7th. As I will be in Aruba on vacation and I will not be posting much. (Yes three weeks be jelous) hahaha ;) sorry I had to .
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>24-04-2013, 03:00:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				rawr?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Ashena</strong> on <strong>30-04-2013, 02:24:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Most of us need a post from the avatar. I only have 28 min on here so i cant post but ill be back in the united states on the 6th at 12:43 pm. So my posts will likely come on the 7th<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>30-04-2013, 04:18:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				i was waiting for some kind of post from Yue and/or Katara
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>07-05-2013, 07:57:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just go ahead and post, apygoos. We need to get the gears turning.<br><br>(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/094/2/5/commission__azula_and_ty_lee__by_sinvia-d60dwtp.jpg)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Empyrean</strong> on <strong>22-05-2013, 18:07:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Are we still playing?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>22-05-2013, 18:09:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				gah i need to write up a post...for some reason..i thought I was all caught up..i think that half a&nbsp; week I was sick messed me up.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>22-05-2013, 23:49:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg8268841#msg8268841">Quote from: Empyrean on 22-05-2013, 18:07:48</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Are we still playing?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>As far as I was aware, everything is still going on, we've just had a lull.<br><br>I know Ashena posted, the Azula scene I believe is waiting on Aang, now.<br><br>I've been kind of having a personal crisis for the last few weeks (nothing worth worrying about, just stuff that's killed the energy I'd dedicate to a post), so I'm not sure if anything's waiting on me... if we <em>are </em>waiting on me, let me know.&nbsp; I'll do my best to get... <em>something</em>... out soon, if just to keep things moving.<br><br>But I'd like to think Karma would have told me if the game were being shut down.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>22-05-2013, 23:50:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I definitely would have. I've been waiting for Aang.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>01-06-2013, 13:05:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				&nbsp;after chaotic schedules and forgetfulness at times, i finally ring you the recent Aang post, hope you enjoy it.<br>I'm extremely sorry for the now almost month long delay and hope to get back to it. I've trimmed down a lot of my RPs and left this one on board, as i love the story and writing here.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>03-06-2013, 08:02:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Link:&nbsp; Doug Walker and A:TLA (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/39436-the-last-airbender-vlogs-the-boy-in-the-iceberg)<br><br>One of my favorite internet personalities is viewing Avatar: The Last Airbender for the very first time, and sharing his experiences and impressions with each episode... all in preparation for reviewing the Last Airbender movie by Shyamalan.<br><br>I don't know that he's going to exclusively say positive things about it (I've disagreed with him on stuff before) but as a HUGE fan of the series, it's interesting watching somebody I admire experience it as brand new and hear what they have to say on the matter.&nbsp; He's making each installment of this immediately after viewing the episodes, so it's also kinda cool watching him make predictions as to where the series will go or what the direction is going to be.<br><br>Very excited to hear what he has to say about Azula but I've a while to wait before we get that far...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>03-06-2013, 08:05:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				that live action movie was an atrocity, and should never be mentioned on these sacred grounds again, even in passing. the Spirit World mourns in shame of its existence.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>08-06-2013, 21:42:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9suojZxao1r2ttalo1_500.gif)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>11-06-2013, 21:14:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				http://www.9to5lol.com/to-the-avatar-confusion-means-lets-ki-now/?utm_source=face&amp;utm_medium=gy&amp;utm_campaign=d2 (http://www.9to5lol.com/to-the-avatar-confusion-means-lets-ki-now/?utm_source=face&amp;utm_medium=gy&amp;utm_campaign=d2)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>15-06-2013, 22:08:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				rawr?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Empyrean</strong> on <strong>20-06-2013, 22:26:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*pokes thread to check for life*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>20-06-2013, 22:28:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				What's the consensus on who is ideal to post next? I've been trying to wedge in a post, but my new job has me so busy that it's hell to even relax most days. :/
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Empyrean</strong> on <strong>21-06-2013, 07:43:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Shouldn't Azula go next since Aang was talking to her? Or we could get a post from Sokka on the ship with Iroh and the gang.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>apygoos</strong> on <strong>22-06-2013, 14:22:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=166717.msg8437191#msg8437191">Quote from: Empyrean on 21-06-2013, 07:43:46</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Shouldn't Azula go next since Aang was talking to her? Or we could get a post from Sokka on the ship with Iroh and the gang.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>i would think its azulas go<br>isnt iroh and sokka on their own wavelength currently? at least that's the impression i got, that they can post independent of whats happening with Aang atm.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>25-06-2013, 18:49:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				"When you play the game of thrones, you either win or you die." - Cersei Lannister.<br><br>Lucky for Cersei...<br><br>(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/074/4/3/azula_on_the_iron_throne_by_kissyushka-d5y518a.jpg)<br><br>"You were never even a player."<br><br><hr><br>I just hopped in to see what, if anything, was waiting on me... and it would appear that on that list is you guys.&nbsp; I'm exceptionally sorry... June is always hard on me (for reasons I won't get into, here) and this one has been especially taxing, emotionally.<br><br>That, coupled with trying to work on a novel (you'd think writing about elves and shit would require less research than writing about real stuff), I've been absent.&nbsp; I'll try to get something on the board here just shortly... if just to keep scenes moving.<br><br>edited because I apparently suck at tagging images... &gt;.&gt;;
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>25-06-2013, 18:51:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Don't worry about it, V. We weren't even clear for a while on who should be posting, and I've been incredibly busy myself.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>25-06-2013, 21:12:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				"...and the Air Nomad girls are always flatulent."
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Violence</strong> on <strong>01-07-2013, 21:35:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div align="center">(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mad9gkGKr51rxqp1ro1_500.jpg)</div>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Empyrean</strong> on <strong>05-07-2013, 07:53:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I might not be able to post for a bit. My ancient computer practically died on me. I can do short posts on my Playstation but not a long one. I hope to have a new computer within a couple of weeks but we'll see.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Avatar TLA: Phoenix Risen [EX] OOC</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Karma</strong> on <strong>12-07-2013, 13:25:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				(http://24.media.tumblr.com/f001c966cc316dd73eaf39174dfcb377/tumblr_mprdlrZJA91rixcuio1_1280.jpg)
			</dd>
		</dl>
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