The Victorian Household - OOC
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				Title: <strong>The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>19-09-2010, 16:10:01</strong>
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				PLEASE READ- CONTAINS IMPORTANT IMFORMATION<br><br>Welcome to the Victorian Household game.&nbsp; I just want to put down a few thoughts about the game and hope you all see what I envisioned this game to be.<br><br>It is much more than a giant fuck fest.&nbsp; I want to actually see the characters evolve and develop.&nbsp; I don't want to see modern attitudes and slang.&nbsp; This is Victorian times, live was very different.&nbsp; Classes were so different, the rich lived lives of sheer luxury, idling around, being waited on hand and foot.&nbsp; The lower classes struggled to survive, managing to get by.&nbsp; In&nbsp; this game I expect to see the&nbsp; Upper classes and the lowest of the low.&nbsp; <br><br>It will be very much a slave training game.&nbsp; But these slaves will be turned from desperate women to Ladies.&nbsp; They will be sold for incredible amounts of money and have a new name, they will be able to slip into the highest places of society as if they were born there.&nbsp; The training will be harsh at times, punishments swift and painful.&nbsp; There will be Incest, Bestiality, abuse, NC and humiliation.<br><br>Things that wont be seen in this game are underage sex, scat, watersports, gore and vore.&nbsp; There wont be snuff involving main characters, but there may be times when we ask for NPCs who can be used in hard hitting scenes.&nbsp; This game is not for the faint hearted, I want to see the depravities of the age.&nbsp; Women seen as lesser than men.&nbsp; The Lord of the House is Master of all.&nbsp; What he says goes.<br><br>The maids are there to make sure the house is properly presented, clean, tidy and always inviting.&nbsp; They can be punished, and in the harshest of ways.&nbsp; Maids do not have to be sexually involved in the training, but they will be expected to serve the Lord or Lady, the sons or any guests.&nbsp; But id you do not want you maid to be a sexually active character, let us know.<br><br>All women will be expected to wear the correct clothes at all times.&nbsp; That includes under wear.&nbsp; I recommend you do some research to see what would be worn.&nbsp; <br><br>For the time being I am dropping the character limit back to 1 character per person because I really wasn't expecting so much interest.&nbsp; Once we get into the game and see who stays and plays, then I will probably increase it again.<br><br>There will be two levels of slaves in the game.&nbsp; The lowest level are those who are kidnapped from the streets and taken to the house.&nbsp; These are women with no hope, they have lost everything, no home, no family.&nbsp; They will be kidnapped and taken to the Manor.&nbsp; The higher level of slaves are women who have been at the Manor for a little while.&nbsp; They have already begun training, so let us know what level you want to be.&nbsp; I need both levels of slaves.<br><br>This is not a general fuck everyone, if you want that sort of game this is probably not for you.&nbsp; More details added as the time goes along.
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				Post by: <strong>Laughing Hyena</strong> on <strong>19-09-2010, 19:55:36</strong>
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				Oh and be warned I intend to get together with kaz and get reaaaaaaalllly creative with the punishments. Turn them into fun little romps. You'll see. Hmhmhmhm... Kaz care to PM me your ideas for I have many ideas for fun punishments.
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				Post by: <strong>pendarious</strong> on <strong>19-09-2010, 20:08:13</strong>
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				hehe this sounds amusing already..........
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				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>19-09-2010, 20:08:38</strong>
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				I cannot wait. OH and the countess is looking forward to her next visit. She does like how the family treats her when she comes calling, lol
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				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 01:24:19</strong>
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				I'm really looking forward to this! Kaz, you're brilliant. *hugs* I'm so glad you're the GM. <br><br>And although I have a BA in history, I think that the main thing should be the characters and stories...just using Victorian as a setting, so we don't get discouraged and bogged down with details if something isn't perfect. But that's just my opinion.
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				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 01:41:11</strong>
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				Thanks sweety, I just saw it as a rather kinky era for a very kinky game.<br><br>I will get the IC thread up tomorrow.&nbsp; And we can get started then.
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				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 01:42:28</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3655528#msg3655528">Quote from: kaz on 20-09-2010, 01:41:11</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Thanks sweety, I just saw it as a rather kinky era for a very kinky game.<br><br>I will get the IC thread up tomorrow.&nbsp; And we can get started then.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Yay! And yeah. I agree.
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				Post by: <strong>evilnerf</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 01:52:01</strong>
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				I had a proposal for the setting?&nbsp; How about it's the dead of winter?&nbsp; Snow on the ground and the roof of the estate.&nbsp; Beautiful backdrop that just HAPPENS to make it a lot harder to escape.&nbsp; Might make outdoor sex a bit more difficult though...
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				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 02:00:18</strong>
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				I am thinking its coming up to christmas, the hous eis being decorated.&nbsp; There will be a party in a few days, and the maids are excited....the parties can get very wild....
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				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 02:01:10</strong>
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				That sounds awesome. I love winter settings...
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				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 02:13:46</strong>
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				I'm all for it! I get to wear a lovely fancy dress, now who will help me take it off?
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				Post by: <strong>evilnerf</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 03:19:33</strong>
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				Maybe the family hosts a special Christmas dinner for 'Women In Need' and they encourage their other guests to bring a young woman who is in need of some care and compassion for Christmas Eve.&nbsp; Of course, due to the remote location of the estate, it's expected that all guests stay for an extended period of time.
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				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 03:23:46</strong>
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				I like that idea Evil, i want to encourage folks to suggest plots and things, I think that could be fun to see played out.<br><br>Ok, posting up the IC thread now.
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				Post by: <strong>writersmelody</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 05:20:50</strong>
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				*waves* Hello everyone! I look forward to writing with you all. Hope you like my character!<br><br>Just to let you know I may not be able to post much more than once or twice a day but if you're prepared to be patient, the posts will be worth the wait. At least I like to think so, LOL.
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				Post by: <strong>Polymorph</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 10:07:00</strong>
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				Flashy will certainly be pleased to see that there is some old India hands in the household. His time spent in the Raj and in particular his brief sexual acquaintences with Queen Jind Kaur, the Regent of the Sikh Punjab and the Rani Lakshmi Bai during the Indian mutiny gave him an appreciation of eastern sexual practices not dissimilar to those of the senior household staff.<br><br>By the by, roughly what point in Victoria's reign is the story set. Flashman is a notorious braggert, who with practiced false modesty manages to bring up his heroic exploits for the empire and the heads of state and other notables he has known quite frequently.
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				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 11:42:07</strong>
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				I'm thinking its around 1843, possibly 1850?
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				Post by: <strong>Polymorph</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 12:33:21</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3657175#msg3657175">Quote from: kaz on 20-09-2010, 11:42:07</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'm thinking its around 1843, possibly 1850?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I'll tinker with Flashman's age to fit the year you decide on, at present I have his age as 38 which is around 1860. He was born on may 5th 1822, anything from 1843 up to C1860 works fine for me. Just don't want to mention events in his dialogue that have not happened yet in the story's timeline. His "heroism" which wins him first acclaim is 1842. The Sikh wars are 1845-49 The Crimea campaign is 1853-56,Indian mutiny is 1857-59.
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				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 12:39:38</strong>
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				I'm happy! I just found a really great site:<br><br>http://www.hevac-heritage.org/items_of_interest/heating/national_trust_properties/cragside/cragside.htm (http://www.hevac-heritage.org/items_of_interest/heating/national_trust_properties/cragside/cragside.htm)<br><br>A bit small but we now have - ta da! - floorplans!<br><br>Also, have found that this house was owned by Charles Armstrong the engineer and gun manufacturer. Armstrong guns were used in warships all over the world and Armstrong cannons were used in many land wars including the American Civil War. Armstrong used hydroelectric power from the lake above his house to drive turbines to make electricity so that this became the first house, or large building of any kind in the world to be lit by electricity. There were also electric roasting spits in the kitchen and a very advanced system of plumbing, heating and hot water in the house.<br><br>In our version of it we could even have electric powered fucking machines if you like ;) Something like a horse saddle with whirling dildos on it or whatever His Lordship's deviant mind can think up within the technology. Such a device would totally freak out a slave because she'd never have seen anything like it.<br><br>The main entrance is at the 'back' of the house, here:<br><br>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cragside1.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cragside1.jpg)<br><br>With the 'pretty' frontage overlooking the valley with gardens on the left side of the plan:<br><br>http://www.gardenvisit.com/garden/cragside_house_garden_and_grounds (http://www.gardenvisit.com/garden/cragside_house_garden_and_grounds)<br><br>You can see the prominent bayed windows of the Library and Morning Room above it in that picture to the left end.<br><br>As you can see from the ground floor plan, we have a main door to the bottom left, and the courtyard where wagons can pass through an arch to the right.<br><br>(http://www.hevac-heritage.org/items_of_interest/heating/national_trust_properties/cragside/cragside_2.jpg)<br><br>On that right hand side of the courtyard we have a still room and bakery but if you turn left in the doorway there is a long thin un-named room above it, to the right of where it says 'Court'. I think this could be the slave harem with the wider part lower down as the lounge and the narrower upper part a big communal sleeping room. Above that under the staircase is a little room that can be the slaves bathroom and up a corridor to the top is a greyed out area that can be the training and punishment room.<br><br>On the other side of the courtyard is the 'service' part of the house with kitchen, butlers pantry (food storage) and butlers office and bedroom. There is a greyed out room to the left of the arch and above the butlers room which could be the housekeepers room and office; we'll assume a corridor connects it to somewhere near the butlers room and kitchen. Below the kitchen is a greyed out area which is probably servants rooms with the thin corridor-looking room on the right as the second butlers office and bedroom and the big room as the servants dining room.<br><br>Then down the left hand side of the ground floor we have all the best public rooms - Dining Room, Library, Japanese Room, Garden Alcove Room, Study and stairs up to the bedrooms.<br><br>(http://www.hevac-heritage.org/items_of_interest/heating/national_trust_properties/cragside/cragside_3.jpg)<br><br>On the upper floor we have, at the very top right a greyed out room which is above the slaves quarters and could be another training or punishment facility, or this could be their bedroom, as Kaz prefers. Moving left anti-clockwise we have bedrooms: Brown Room with it's own bathroom - this has stairs access across over the arch to the greyed out room so I suggest the Brown Bedroom is His Lordships room as it has direct and private access to the slaves quarters without having to go through the rest of the house. Then Bamboo Bedroom, Morning Room (not a bedroom and with huge curved bay window), Red bedroom (with below it a dressing room), White Bedroom, Yellow Bedroom and at the bottom Boudoir Room. Across above the entrance hall we go towards the social section of the upstairs which is laid out to be away from all the bedrooms: the Gallery, Drawing Room (presumably for the ladies) and Billiard Room (presumably for the gentlemen). You'll note rather nicely that the Drawing Room/Billiard Room complex is over the still room with some small corridors and stairs behind them which go down to the lower floor and come out very near my suggested slave harem room, thus if the gentlemen or their guests are upstairs relaxing of an evening it is easy to order up a slave or two for entertainment via these stairs.<br><br>In the centre of the upper floor above the kitchen area is a greyed out series of small rooms which I think are the maids and footmens quarters.<br><br>Finally perched high up above the bottom left corner is an upper floor that comprises a large suite of Owl Bedroom, Owl Bathroom (which I think has been misprinted bedroom again on the plan) and Dressing Room. I think the Owl Suite would suit the elder son maybe?<br><br>If we call the Watercolour Gallery off the main Gallery a bedroom as well we have 8 bedrooms which I think is enough for family and guests. The Morning Room up on that floor is where the family and guests would take breakfast, read the papers and chat until they decide to go down and start their day.<br><br>Might be useful to have these plans in the first post of the IC thread Kaz? And a piccy or two? I think the gentlemen of the household and the various guests can choose bedrooms now, and Her Ladyship of course unless she wants to wait to see where His Lordship wishes her to have her quarters.
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				Post by: <strong>Kate</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 12:44:48</strong>
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				writersmelody <br><br>Glad your on board ! I adore your character ! (hope you like mine) <br><br>Actually most people have written up really interesting characters. This seems very thoroughly approached by all involved
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				Post by: <strong>Kate</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 12:48:39</strong>
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				Haibane - wow impressive work with the house layout.<br><br>Perhaps that should be linked to in the first post of IC as we may need to refer back to it often.
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				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 12:50:14</strong>
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				*nods* I agree. Also I was so pleased when I found it. The house is wonderful from the exterior but I never dreamed I'd come across full floor plans, which makes things a lot easier when people say they are in the Morning Room or the Yellow Bedroom now we all know what's going on.
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				Post by: <strong>Polymorph</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 13:04:19</strong>
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				Those plans are excellent, knowing exactly where you are in the house would be good. I like the idea of pioneering electrical devices.<br><br>Northumberland is a pretty rugged and quite sparsely populated area. Plenty of scope for hunting a victim as she runs through the estate with the family and guests giving chase on horseback.<br><br>Evilnerfs suggestion that each of the guests supply an unsuspecting victim for the Lord's harem&nbsp; sounds good. The reactions of the young women when their supposed benefactors hand them over and they begin to learn what is in store for them could be very entertaining.
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				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 13:08:44</strong>
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				It need not be Northumberland but I don't think we are in Surrey! But yes, lots of rolling moorland to chase escaping naked slaves across is good.<br><br>Which room is Alistair in currently with Christine? Might be good if he got her across to the slave quarters which is where most breaking and training would be done. Saves us getting over-excited slave juices on our nice polished floors!
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				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 13:47:20</strong>
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				So does that then mean that the guests would bring in one of the victims rather than have them plucked from the streets?
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				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 13:49:27</strong>
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				I don't think so, I think the father and sons organise all the bringing in of victims and breaking and training them, the guests can join in the training or just enjoy the slaves once they're fit for use.
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				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 13:54:12</strong>
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				Ok, I was wondering since the suggestion was out there that the guest bring a victim. I'm all set now, Countess Ebberly will be arriving soon. Hope her room is all ready for her, lol
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				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 14:30:10</strong>
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				I would imagine so. You can even choose one now.
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				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 14:41:10</strong>
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				I'd like the white one if that's ok
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				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 14:44:59</strong>
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				Sure thing hun, go for it *rubs eyes* so tired today 
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				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 14:49:16</strong>
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				Oh kaz I hear ya!
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				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 16:42:54</strong>
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				Hello there everybody, Just got aproved and hoping to have a wonderful time playing with you. Umm.. history is not really my strong suit so if i ever say something thats just out of place and entirely wrong.. please feel free to smack me upside the head hard and correct me.. trust me *knocks on his head* you wont hurt me much by doing so.
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				Post by: <strong>Laughing Hyena</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 16:57:45</strong>
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				Posting soon as I catch up. Its a bit hectic. Not sure if theres a map of the manor but if there is I'll apologize in advance.
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				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 17:01:01</strong>
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				Hyena, map is on the first page of this thread. Oh and Victoria is looking forward to a little private time with the lord.
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				Post by: <strong>Laughing Hyena</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 18:18:03</strong>
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				I hope I wont disappoint then.
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				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 18:20:40</strong>
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				I'm sure you won't and of course, the lady of the house will never know.
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				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 18:25:40</strong>
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				Christine is in one of the upstairs bedrooms, clean and waiting on Alistair...unless someone else wants to piss him off and get there first...lol. 
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				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 18:37:40</strong>
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				Can we assume Christine was fully shaved when she was bathed? I was going to create a quick NPC maid and do that scene but we can skip it if you prefer. Christine might be rather bemused by it all though and possibly might have had to be bound down while it was done. Yumyum.<br><br>I hope Alistair soon decides which bedroom is his - as does the master of the house, then the staff can allocate rooms to the guests.
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				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 19:03:11</strong>
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				You can either describe that out, or play it. Yes, she could be fully shaved, and she'd probably have to be bound.
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				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 19:04:31</strong>
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				Ohhh, the temptation to have valentine enter or walk by is SOOOOOOO strong right now
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				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 19:23:23</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3658369#msg3658369">Quote from: Isengrad on 20-09-2010, 19:04:31</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Ohhh, the temptation to have valentine enter or walk by is SOOOOOOO strong right now<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Haha. Well, that would add drama.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 19:59:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				very much so indeed, little brother playing with his new toy... Such a thing is a infuriating to all older siblings, and such a thing for him to do. Now how to go about it, and&nbsp; christa.. a point of clarification.. where do you have your girl locked up according to the floor plans?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 20:06:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				LovelyLilT - is your girl being delivered now, or could this have been a couple of days ago? If its a day or two back I can do a flashback post from Hemlock's POV of the girl being prepared and then left in the harem. She would have been attended to by someone between then and now though, so we lose the initial meeting scene.<br><br>I just think if 3 or 4 girls all arrive on the very same morning we'll struggle to handle them all.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 20:11:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				haibane, in your opinion what room would suit valentine?I'm still torn between the brown and the Red room.. or should i wait for kaz or hyena to choose their bedroom first?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>The Lovely Tsaritsa</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 20:17:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3658611#msg3658611">Quote from: Haibane on 20-09-2010, 20:06:28</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">LovelyLilT - is your girl being delivered now, or could this have been a couple of days ago? If its a day or two back I can do a flashback post from Hemlock's POV of the girl being prepared and then left in the harem. She would have been attended to by someone between then and now though, so we lose the initial meeting scene.<br><br>I just think if 3 or 4 girls all arrive on the very same morning we'll struggle to handle them all.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Oh ok, I understand! :-) I'll edit my post, I make it a flash back. She arrived two days ago then.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 20:24:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*sighs after looking at the floor plan and getting a headache*<br><br>I don't know. I guess the upstairs slave quarters, or the Owl bedroom, since it was Alistair that ordered her to be bathed. *shrugs*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 20:37:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3658630#msg3658630">Quote from: Isengrad on 20-09-2010, 20:11:52</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">haibane, in your opinion what room would suit valentine?I'm still torn between the brown and the Red room.. or should i wait for kaz or hyena to choose their bedroom first?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>In the plans I suggested the father might want the brown room due to its private access to the harem and the fact it has a private bathroom.<br><br>I thought Alistair might want the Owl Tower with its suite on top because that's the other room with a bath, though His Lordship might wish to put his wife in there - that's up to Hyena to decide.<br><br>After that the rooms are all pretty similar I think though there's one with a dressing room. Is that the red room? I don't have the plan open at the moment. I think therefore you will be safe if you choose any room except brown or owl.<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 20:41:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That sounds fair, the red room it is then.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Laughing Hyena</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 20:41:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				The Lady of the house shares the Brown Room with his Lord.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 20:52:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				OK guess its settled then ^^. thank you.. Now lets see about posting now.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 21:18:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Christa - please let me know if that post of Christine being bathed and shaved is okay. I hope the reactions of hers I described you will agree with but if anything needs changing I'll be delighted to edit.<br><br>Also to Kaz - need to know if the harem layout, etc is okay. Thanks!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 21:24:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Thank you Haibane, that post was very detailed and looks good. I think it's fine as is, but thanks for asking for my input. Sorry to dump all of that on you...I could have written it out more detailed in my post, but I was mobile and unsure of what all would have transpired. Thanks again.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 21:37:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				All looking good, I love the floor plans, and liek the idea for the Harem.&nbsp; I am gonna separate into a few threads now, so we dont get all cluttered in one place.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 21:38:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3658972#msg3658972">Quote from: kaz on 20-09-2010, 21:37:48</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">All looking good, I love the floor plans, and liek the idea for the Harem.&nbsp; I am gonna separate into a few threads now, so we dont get all cluttered in one place.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Good idea.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 21:40:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				yes the separate thread idea is a good one, sooner or later ill think of a good intro post. the first one is always the hardest for me.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 21:42:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Alright. I think I'm going to wait on Isengrad or EvilNerf before I post next...as otherwise it would just be her tied up. I'll write her reflection on the grooming process when I have someone to reply to at the end of it. :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 21:44:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3658923#msg3658923">Quote from: Christa McGinn on 20-09-2010, 21:24:43</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Thank you Haibane, that post was very detailed and looks good. I think it's fine as is, but thanks for asking for my input. Sorry to dump all of that on you...I could have written it out more detailed in my post, but I was mobile and unsure of what all would have transpired. Thanks again.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>No problem, I love writing shaving scenes - one of my stronger kinks so I enjoyed it. I was thinking of forcing Christine to endure an enema there at the end after she'd been shaved and was still tied to the bench but thought it might squick people out, but if you'd like one in there I can add one, or we can RP one later... same applies to anyone. I love enema scenes so will be fine writing one with whoever would like to.<br><br>Good idea on the split threads, this one is going to get very busy!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 21:45:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3659004#msg3659004">Quote from: Haibane on 20-09-2010, 21:44:04</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">No problem, I love writing shaving scenes - one of my stronger kinks so I enjoyed it. I was thinking of forcing Christine to endure an enema there at the end after she'd been shaved and was still tied to the bench but thought it might squick people out, but if you'd like one in there I can add one, or we can RP one later... same applies to anyone. I love enema scenes so will be fine writing one with whoever would like to.<br><br>Good idea on the split threads, this one is going to get very busy!<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I'm fine with enema scenes as long as we don't describe anything that comes out. The feeling and process and such is fine though. I like it.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 21:46:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I was thinking that maybe the Good Lady of the House needs some attentions.&nbsp; She relaly doesnt mean to forget to make sure she is clean and shaven.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 21:47:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think i have a good idea of what i would like to do, most have not referenced valentine at all in any of the posts.. So him coming back for Christmas could be my hook in.. and yeah.. i know what i'm going to do now ^^
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 21:55:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yayy, go for it :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 21:59:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3659014#msg3659014">Quote from: Christa McGinn on 20-09-2010, 21:45:20</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'm fine with enema scenes as long as we don't describe anything that comes out. The feeling and process and such is fine though. I like it.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>I'm the same. Its the pleasure of filling someone up and torturing them by forcing them to hold it, plus all that lovely humiliation when the victim is forced to let go in front of strangers, especially a large gathering. But yes, in my descriptions there's always a convenient open drain and an NPC with a hose to wash everything away.<br><br>I'll have Christine get an enema soon then.<br><br>@ Kaz - Sure, I can arrange a maid or Mrs Hemlock to shave Her Ladyship, no problem. Maybe the slightly curious but still a bit shy Emma could do it.<br><br>What I probably can do in this game is add in another maid at least, another almost-NPC without much character so the house can still function, I'm happy to play the entire game using such basic characters, they still get some good scenes and the game works better if the household is seen to be running well I think.<br><br>EDIT: Soooo... at the moment, just the two victims yes, no-one else has posted? And no house-slaves in play yet?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 22:06:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm thinking I might make another character of some sort.&nbsp; Possibly a maid-slave.&nbsp; <br><br>Do we want any more threads, we could have a bedroom one later. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>pendarious</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 22:08:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				should we have a seperate one for the stables?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 22:09:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3659112#msg3659112">Quote from: pendarious on 20-09-2010, 22:08:04</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">should we have a seperate one for the stables?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I think the stables, gardens and kennels could be together for now, but it might be good to make one for at least those three. Just a thought...<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>The Lovely Tsaritsa</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 22:21:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3659004#msg3659004">Quote from: Haibane on 20-09-2010, 21:44:04</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">No problem, I love writing shaving scenes - one of my stronger kinks so I enjoyed it. I was thinking of forcing Christine to endure an enema there at the end after she'd been shaved and was still tied to the bench but thought it might squick people out, but if you'd like one in there I can add one, or we can RP one later... same applies to anyone. I love enema scenes so will be fine writing one with whoever would like to.<br><br>Good idea on the split threads, this one is going to get very busy!<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Yay enema scenes! &gt;:) Charlotte needs one I think! And a good shaving. Poor girl needs lots of things though so no hurry.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 22:25:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Perhaps just keep the general house thread but when people go into steamy scenes we create a thread then for that scene, but named after the room it happens in, so pretty soon we'd have a Brown Bedroom Thread and maybe the first time it gets used will be His Lordship doing some whipping and fucking on Her Ladyship. The next time that thread gets used it might be Mrs Hemlock bathing and shaving her Ladyship. So... what I'm saying is we only create 'room threads' when we first need them but once created no-one actually owns them and who ever is doing a scene in that room uses that thread.<br><br>I agree a separate thread is good for the stables, kennels and parkland but again only needs creating when it is first used. Though if you wanted you could create that one now and Pendarious could copy his groom post into it and remove it from the house thread.<br><br>I should think a Harem thread will be needed soon too, hopefully off-duty slaves can play games with each other if there's not enough perverted guests available.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 22:26:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3659196#msg3659196">Quote from: Haibane on 20-09-2010, 22:25:00</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Perhaps just keep the general house thread but when people go into steamy scenes we create a thread then for that scene, but named after the room it happens in, so pretty soon we'd have a Brown Bedroom Thread and maybe the first time it gets used will be His Lordship doing some whipping and fucking on Her Ladyship. The next time that thread gets used it might be Mrs Hemlock bathing and shaving her Ladyship. So... what I'm saying is we only create 'room threads' when we first need them but once created no-one actually owns them and who ever is doing a scene in that room uses that thread.<br><br>I agree a separate thread is good for the stables, kennels and parkland but again only needs creating when it is first used. Though if you wanted you could create that one now and Pendarious could copy his groom post into it and remove it from the house thread.<br><br>I should think a Harem thread will be needed soon too, hopefully off-duty slaves can play games with each other if there's not enough perverted guests available.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>She made a slave quarters thread that includes the harem.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 22:27:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Also, Kaz I wanted to say - <em>beautiful</em> picture of Constance. Utterly delicious.<br><br>Ah, I didn't see the Harem thread. Kaz can you put up links when you make threads, I had no idea it was there. My Christine bathing post ought to go there :(
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 22:47:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				And i am officially in the game
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 22:50:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				And I am officially coming after you! Lol
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 22:56:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3659329#msg3659329">Quote from: lovelygirl11 on 20-09-2010, 22:50:12</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">And I am officially coming after you! Lol<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I think you're officially coming after all the men...lol. *winks* &lt;3
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 22:56:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Kaz, a link that can go in the Lordships Study thread, since this is that actual room ;)<br><br>http://www.cycling-hols.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/4BC96783-B907-42C2-A5B1-062F4E2054BCiphone_photo.jpg (http://www.cycling-hols.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/4BC96783-B907-42C2-A5B1-062F4E2054BCiphone_photo.jpg)<br><br>For the harem? Again this is an actual room in the house we are using:<br><br>http://www.cycling-hols.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/9496CBD5-BE97-4189-9C91-978B47FFDB81iphone_photo.jpg (http://www.cycling-hols.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/9496CBD5-BE97-4189-9C91-978B47FFDB81iphone_photo.jpg)<br><br>Library:<br><br>http://www.cycling-hols.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/A0C1EF3A-42A0-43B7-943F-766D0B8E3251iphone_photo.jpg (http://www.cycling-hols.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/A0C1EF3A-42A0-43B7-943F-766D0B8E3251iphone_photo.jpg)<br><br>Drawing Room:<br><br>http://www.cma.gov.cn/en/speeial/Cliamte_Change/news/200905/W020090511523096616451.jpg (http://www.cma.gov.cn/en/speeial/Cliamte_Change/news/200905/W020090511523096616451.jpg)<br><br>http://www.directarticle.org/cragside4.jpg (http://www.directarticle.org/cragside4.jpg)<br><br>The Gallery:<br><br>http://www.bbc.co.uk/tyne/content/images/2006/08/04/19701_470x380.jpg (http://www.bbc.co.uk/tyne/content/images/2006/08/04/19701_470x380.jpg)<br><br>(some of these no doubt won't be used for threads but handy to have here for atmosphere so people can get an idea)<br><br>Kitchen:<br><br>http://www.bbc.co.uk/tyne/content/images/2006/08/04/19652_470x380.jpg (http://www.bbc.co.uk/tyne/content/images/2006/08/04/19652_470x380.jpg)<br><br>Stable block (Head groom lives in rooms in the tower maybe?)<br><br>http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/13/42/36/the-center-in-the-snow.jpg (http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/13/42/36/the-center-in-the-snow.jpg)<br><br>Picture for the grounds thread? This is the <del>cunting</del> hunting lodge:<br><br>http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/13/42/34/my-dream-house-near-the.jpg (http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/13/42/34/my-dream-house-near-the.jpg)<br><br>Dining room:<br><br>http://www.bbc.co.uk/tyne/content/images/2006/08/04/19732_470x379.jpg (http://www.bbc.co.uk/tyne/content/images/2006/08/04/19732_470x379.jpg)<br><br>Morning room:<br><br>http://www.bbc.co.uk/tyne/content/images/2006/08/04/19680_470x375.jpg (http://www.bbc.co.uk/tyne/content/images/2006/08/04/19680_470x375.jpg)<br><br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 22:57:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3659361#msg3659361">Quote from: Christa McGinn on 20-09-2010, 22:56:11</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I think you're officially coming after all the men...lol. *winks* &lt;3<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>naw, I am the perfect gentlemen, the women Always cum first and often.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 23:00:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3659361#msg3659361">Quote from: Christa McGinn on 20-09-2010, 22:56:11</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I think you're officially coming after all the men...lol. *winks* &lt;3<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Ah you know me too well! A few of the girls too!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 23:01:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3659367#msg3659367">Quote from: Isengrad on 20-09-2010, 22:57:35</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">naw, I am the perfect gentlemen, the women Always cum first and often.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Haha. No, I meant Lovely. ;) Not you.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 23:04:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think it was a play on words Christa,lol - he's gonna let me cum first
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>pendarious</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 23:06:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				lol this tale is already quite amusing.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 23:07:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3659415#msg3659415">Quote from: lovelygirl11 on 20-09-2010, 23:04:08</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I think it was a play on words Christa,lol - he's gonna let me cum first<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I know it was a play on words, but I intended the words for you...*sighs* Never mind. Overworked joke.<br><br>And only you? Hmm? ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 23:11:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				me and my inability to direct one liners over the internet.. bah XD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 23:14:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry zipping my big fat lip now, lol
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 23:15:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3659497#msg3659497">Quote from: lovelygirl11 on 20-09-2010, 23:14:15</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Sorry zipping my big fat lip now, lol<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>No! It's fine. Lol. *hugs*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 23:16:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Awww I like your hugs , mmm perfect for a slave 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 23:18:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3659507#msg3659507">Quote from: lovelygirl11 on 20-09-2010, 23:16:26</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Awww I like your hugs , mmm perfect for a slave<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Hehe. Although I'm no slave in RL. It would take one hell of a man strong enough to do that. Although I'd love it if it happened. *ponders and goes off into her own little world*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 23:20:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3659521#msg3659521">Quote from: Christa McGinn on 20-09-2010, 23:18:07</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Hehe. Although I'm no slave in RL. It would take one hell of a man strong enough to do that. Although I'd love it if it happened. *ponders and goes off into her own little world*<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>You made me laugh,---- can't wait until Victoria meets your girl!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 23:22:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3659530#msg3659530">Quote from: lovelygirl11 on 20-09-2010, 23:20:35</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">You made me laugh,---- can't wait until Victoria meets your girl!<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Haha. Christine's going to be a pain at first, but I'm hoping to balance her out enough to not make it monotonous and annoying for too long. But thanks!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>20-09-2010, 23:39:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Kaz, can we have a thread for the Owl Suite please where Christine is currently screaming the place down, Hemlock is going to go sort her out.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>writersmelody</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 00:05:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*rubs hands together*<br><br>So where should I start Elizabeth?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 00:07:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I was looking for a reaction and exit post from kaz before i continued, but she seems to be having some fun with Lord ambrose himself... So ill give it a few more minutes before continuing lovely 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 00:09:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Take your time- sitting down for dinner right now.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 00:14:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				So I guess Valentine decided not to discover Christine?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 00:15:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, shes going to be disciplined very soon... he still can the night is still young.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 00:16:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That's fine. Hopefully EvilNerf will be back before long.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 00:16:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				He could come up any time he likes, having heard the noise. Its only a servant in there who will leave if she's not needed.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 00:27:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				well, maybe victoria would like to join.. could always be interesting
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 00:53:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ah Valentine, sounds like fun. The poor girl won't know what hit her, lol
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 00:54:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Haha...and now EvilNerf gets back! Gah...either really perfect or really bad timing.<br>&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 00:55:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Quick Valentine, Alistair's got several pages of OOC to read! There's still time!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 00:57:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Waiting on lovley.. didnt just want to drag her up there... only.. god.. mod when absolutely essential to plot*arggghhhh.. fighting off urge to rape continuity*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 00:57:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry guys, tired and grumoy tonight not feeling my best....
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 00:58:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				its ok kaz, its all good
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 00:58:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm here! Go go go!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 01:12:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				And we are there
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 01:14:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Isengrad, Nerf got a post in before you on the main thread, so you'll have to edit. Sorries....
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 01:14:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				damn didnt say, ok going back
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 01:14:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				And we got beat to the punch, lol. So my room or yours?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 01:15:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				hehe, well let me remove my posts and move on then.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 01:21:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3660013#msg3660013">Quote from: kaz on 21-09-2010, 00:57:53</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Sorry guys, tired and grumoy tonight not feeling my best....<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Go and have a nice sleep, or something else that relaxes you.<br><br>*curls up against and licks your bottom*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 02:13:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				hey kaz, can we make the bedroom threads or do you want to be the one that does it?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 02:18:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				We cant make loads, I think the rule is you can have so many threads for the amount of players, Haibane might know more.&nbsp; I havent any problems with you making a general thread for bedrooms for now.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 02:22:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Alright, I make a general bedroom thread for now to handle the bedrooms until we get more information.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 02:24:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				We are allowed twice as many threads as we have players, so I see no problem in making a Red Bedroom thread at this point.<br><br>Just for reference 11 people have posted so far and we've only used up 6 threads, so we're okay for now.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 02:25:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I will wait for the bedroom thread and then post
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 02:25:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ohhh, ok then ^^
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>writersmelody</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 02:28:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Would it be all right if I made a thread for Elizabeth's room? I was thinking I'd have her wake up in it, unable to remember how she got there, and then whoever wanted could enter and proceed to tell/show her what's expected. Unless there is a better suggestion for where I should start her out.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 02:31:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Isengrad will you make the thread, or do you want Kaz to do it?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 02:32:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'll leave you all in Haibane's hands for tonight.&nbsp; I think it's going well so far all, hope you are having fun.<br><br>Night night *kisses everyone*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 02:33:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Night Kaz!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 02:36:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Night-night sweetie *hugs*<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3660462#msg3660462">Quote from: writersmelody on 21-09-2010, 02:28:42</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Would it be all right if I made a thread for Elizabeth's room? I was thinking I'd have her wake up in it, unable to remember how she got there, and then whoever wanted could enter and proceed to tell/show her what's expected. Unless there is a better suggestion for where I should start her out.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>How long has Elizabeth been at the Manor? I wasn't sure if she has been broken yet or is a new arrival.<br><br>She's a slave you can begin posting for her in the Harem thread. She doesn't have a room, the slave quarters are all communal. I did a description of them in my footmens/maids post that is in the Harem thread already so reading that will give you an idea of the place.<br><br>LoveyLilT's slave Charlotte is in there too, sleeping or waking up it sounds like from this post (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82889.msg3658408#msg3658408).<br><br>I have plans to take Martha down there next anyway.<br><br>The slaves are all kept nude by the way and are all fully shaven. Kaz and Hyena haven't decided if they wear collars I don't think so for now assume not.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>writersmelody</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 02:38:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh, she is a new slave. I guess the Harem would be as good a place as any to have her wake up... LOL
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 02:39:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3660522#msg3660522">Quote from: writersmelody on 21-09-2010, 02:38:30</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Oh, she is a new slave. I guess the Harem would be as good a place as any to have her wake up... LOL<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Sounds good. If she's brand new she'll be bound, maybe blindfolded or with a bag over hear head, you can decide if one, some or none of those apply but her hands will be tied behind her at the very least.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 02:47:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Haibane, do you want to post a general bedroom thread? Or shall we each do our own? I just don't want to step on any toes.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 02:49:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3660401#msg3660401">Quote from: kaz on 21-09-2010, 02:18:12</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">We cant make loads, I think the rule is you can have so many threads for the amount of players, Haibane might know more.&nbsp; I havent any problems with you making a general thread for bedrooms for now.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Kaz said general thread for bedrooms. :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 02:51:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ok I just didn't know if Kaz and Haibane had to put those up or if we could start it. Don't want to step out of line and feel Hemlocks wrath, lol
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 02:52:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3660586#msg3660586">Quote from: lovelygirl11 on 21-09-2010, 02:51:35</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Ok I just didn't know if Kaz and Haibane had to put those up or if we could start it. Don't want to step out of line and feel Hemlocks wrath, lol<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Kaz said that you guys could start it, I believe. She had to leave.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 02:53:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				well, I went by what Hai said and made a red suite.. i could however change it to a general thread if she wants<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 02:54:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Actually we are okay with an individual bedroom thread for the Red Bedroom, Valentine's room. We have stacks of thread allowances left.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 02:55:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ok, just dont want to get anybody in trouble
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 03:00:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Thanks Haibane, so as we use other rooms we should check with you first to make sure we can start a thread, is that correct?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 03:03:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm still here, I am gonna bring in another character tomorrow.&nbsp; I think she will be a new slave, but she will turn up on the door step, half dead, and fall under the mercies of Mrs Hemlock as she will need nursing back to health.&nbsp; hehe <br><br>Always ask before you make a new thread, if it can be written in an existing one that would be great.&nbsp; I will make a list of the threads we have tomorrow.&nbsp; Now I will leave you in the very capable hands of Mrs Hemlock.....<br><br>Now I am going to bed.... :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 03:13:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3660605#msg3660605">Quote from: Isengrad on 21-09-2010, 02:55:07</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Ok, just dont want to get anybody in trouble<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Not even a slave girl? Ya wimp!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 03:17:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3660630#msg3660630">Quote from: lovelygirl11 on 21-09-2010, 03:00:28</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Thanks Haibane, so as we use other rooms we should check with you first to make sure we can start a thread, is that correct?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Kaz first please, its her game. Me when she isn't around.<br><br>Sashira has posted so we now have 12 players and can therefore have 24 threads including this OOC and the Characters thread (the players wanted one does not count). I think we are going to be fine for a thread for each bedroom, a slave harem, a general house thread, stables/kennels and the new one Kaz just did for the estate grounds and still have some spare.<br><br>I don't know if the Butler or Housekeepers quarters will ever need them, perhaps a general "servants part of the house" thread. We'll see. But Kaz calls the shots if she's around.<br><br>&nbsp;- Night Kaz *kisses*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 03:24:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Night kaz, have fun and dream of wips chains and padded cuffs
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 03:30:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yes of course Kaz first, I know, no problem.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 03:44:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				hey Hai, i thought the yellow bedroom was assigned to lady Victoria... not that shes using it right now of course *cough cough*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 03:45:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I thought Victoria had the White Bedroom.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 03:46:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				you know what, let me go back and read it just to be sure. thats what forums are for<br><br>edit:yes i was wrong, she did get the white bedroom. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 03:47:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I have the white bedroom, but I'm in valenine's room right now 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 03:49:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				LOL. Its like happy families.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 03:50:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				The family that lays together stays together ( ha, you see what i did there?)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 03:52:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				And we'll have to close the game to new guests/family members soon as we have only 2 bedrooms left I think. *is shocked at how popular the game has become*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Writersblockade</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 03:55:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				you are!? I almost ran from my computer when I found out how much I'd have to catch up on! 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 03:56:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				This is a game for everyone, all manner of kinks are not only allowed but expected. there is a large community of women that just love being submissive, and from what it looks like we run the gamut of psychological problems, an oedipal complex, sociopaths , were bound to create a few more... whats not to like about this game?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 03:57:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Not enough slave girls!&nbsp; :-[
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 04:02:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				We coudl have 20 and we still wouldn't have enough. but at least we have our men now ^^
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 04:12:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3660970#msg3660970">Quote from: Isengrad on 21-09-2010, 04:02:51</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">We coudl have 20 and we still wouldn't have enough.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div> Like cigarettes you mean? 20 a day and you just get addicted to more?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 04:14:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				slave girls are like pringles, once you pop you cant stop
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 05:15:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I need my beddy-byes. See you all tomorrow *hugs*<br><br>Drop me a PM if there is anything going on you don't like Sashira, or if there is anything you especially want in that scene.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 11:49:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Morning one and all.&nbsp; I am gonna be updating the cast list and we can always have a guest house to add extra rooms.&nbsp; I think a family like the AMbrose's would have a separate house for parties and their freinds, especially when people come for auctions.&nbsp; :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 12:51:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Good idea, I know there is a hunting lodge on the grounds of the real place, so an extra wing or a nearby separate building would fix the overcrowding problems.<br><br>I really think we need more maids and more slaves though, we're getting very top-heavy on guests and family now which naturally means they do scenes with each other and may neglect the slaves, I'm wondering if the original idea of slave breaking and training will get a bit lost in all the fun.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 12:58:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm just working on a maid-slave Evelyn , little minx who loves to have her bum spanked
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 13:00:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Mm, good old-fashioned spanking. Considering we're all Victorians we should be doing a lot of that. Perhaps some of these ignorant street urchins the family has so generously given bed and board and hot meals to might benefit from some education? Perhaps a writing and numbers class one day a week?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 13:23:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I like that idea a lot, give them a basic education...yes definitely
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 13:48:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Mm, Hyena, that is such a hot scene out there with the stallion. You've got me wiggling in my seat dripping wet here you naughty man! Nicely done.<br><br>I love Evie too, Kaz. Very cute. Another redhead as well! So by this stage in her life at the manor she is more a maid than a slave by now, but available for quickies at any time day or night to relieve staff tensions, yes?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 13:50:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				God that scene is getting to me Hai, lol oh the things we can write&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;:)<br><br>I see Evie as a maid, but she will willing do other things.&nbsp; And she does things on purpose in the hope of getting a spanking.&nbsp; She is a naughty girl but with a heart of gold.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 13:54:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				You know what happens to girls who are naughty on purpose don't you?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 14:03:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*bites bottom lip and scuffs feet* No Miss.....
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 14:13:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				The punishment that works best for them is to not give them what they want. Now, polish the brass again you little hussy!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 14:17:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*pouts* yes Miss.....&nbsp; :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kate</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 14:18:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Having players express which Guests they would like to role play with or be involved with may be interesting also - things may more easily separate out while structure is maintained.<br><br>With that said - if any players at all want to have dealings with (or otherwise) from mine just say so ( she isnt everyone's cup of tea but she may be be for some)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 15:03:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm looking forward to seeing the Duchess arriving and her reaction to seeing the house decorated... and the nativity scene in the morning room bay window as well ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 15:50:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think when Victoria comes back to her room, Evie might have to come in and tidy up a bit! 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 16:13:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				And good morning everyone, I trust we all had exciting dreams.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 16:23:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				No need, I just got off reading about his lordships and ladyships horseride...<br><br>But hello again anyway ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 17:05:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				hmm, i was thinking about the slave training. I am most familiar in training kajira (the gorren slave girl) so mostly I enforce posture, walking distance and other stuff.. now I wont use the actual gorean terms, but Just wondering if it would be counter productive to teach a slave to kneel at her masters heel, legs spread wide palms face up on the legs, back straight and eyes downcast in respect
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 17:11:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think thats a good position, one that the slaves should know
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 17:20:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				very good, then Ill do some of my other training as well, make sure they know how to use their kegal muscles to Milk their lover dry without moving. And it seems that we have already adopted the pricipale of a Slave girls clothing should always allow open air access to her loins so she is ready to serve he master at any time without hesitation.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 17:22:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yes, no underwear for the maid-slaves and they will be collared once they are broken.&nbsp; new slaves can have rope collars, but they wont get proper ones until they have accepted their role.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 17:26:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				very good, Now i don't see many uses for Valentines little fascination with scars, unless of course to put the "Family Brand" on thier products or place a new one as a permanent reminder of the girls punishment for a major infraction.Though it is something that sets him aside... I suppose I could save it for any Npc slaves
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 18:15:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3662997#msg3662997">Quote from: Isengrad on 21-09-2010, 17:05:05</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">hmm, i was thinking about the slave training. I am most familiar in training kajira (the gorren slave girl) so mostly I enforce posture, walking distance and other stuff.. now I wont use the actual gorean terms, but Just wondering if it would be counter productive to teach a slave to kneel at her masters heel, legs spread wide palms face up on the legs, back straight and eyes downcast in respect<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>If you look at my first post in the harem thread I had the slaves adopt that posture with the one difference of the hands held in the small of the back and the chest pushed forwards. I dislike the gorean posture as it does not expose the breasts enough. I didn't say where the slaves look but I personally prefer a sub to look up and let you see his or her eyes.<br><br>Slaves in the harem were also naked in my post.<br><br>I like the idea of the slaves (not maid-slaves) being nude around the house over Christmas, perhaps serving drinks or trays of nibbles or just being available.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 18:34:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I could make another maid or slave already broken it. Would that be ok, Kaz?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 18:43:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				We had a couple of no-shows... worth chasing them up maybe?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 19:37:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well relly I just want a list of traits that are to be tought, a bare standard.. we are after all suppling a product, so a minimum requirment is believable.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 20:13:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Kaz, would you be alright with me making either a maid or a broken in slave? I know you said only one character per person, but if we're running short...just let me know.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 20:19:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yes love go for it, but she would have to be broken.&nbsp; Like been there a few weeks and is about to start the real training.&nbsp; Or a maid-slave like Evie.&nbsp; Either would be great :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 20:22:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3663562#msg3663562">Quote from: Isengrad on 21-09-2010, 19:37:54</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Well relly I just want a list of traits that are to be tought, a bare standard.. we are after all suppling a product, so a minimum requirment is believable.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>I suppose the final say should be Hyena's - they're his character's property after all ;)<br><br>I'll be fine editing my Harem post to fit whatever is decided.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 20:24:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				While I remember, Dark Cassandra would like to bring in a slave char too... so soon we should have a decent number.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 20:33:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Bringing in a broken slave, although I need to finish her later. Bye!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 20:53:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Awww, one of her perversions is scarification.. i feel so love *happy tear rolls down face, followed by slightly hard of hearing tear that didn't know what the line was for*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 20:58:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, it's one of my ons, so I figured my girls would be prime targets. ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 21:02:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				True i remember seeing that when i checked, By the way have you ever heard of the Anita Blake series Christa?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 22:18:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<span style="font-size: 1.35em;" class="bbc_size">Post edited because Christa is a bit flighty.</span>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 22:28:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Lovely post... but wrong thread&nbsp; :P :o
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 22:33:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Omg...I'm mobile and I was distracted. Wow... That's embarrassing. *blushes* I'll delete it. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>21-09-2010, 22:39:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I know you're a redhead so I can't even make blonde jokes.<br><br>It was pretty impressive though *gives huggles*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 00:03:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just to say Maid-slaves can be used and abused as well.&nbsp; &nbsp;We arent taking anymore victims right now, broken slaves, ready for training yes.&nbsp; :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Tackyhillbilly</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 00:45:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				So where should Tom be, to start with?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 00:52:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Inside Christine or Lolita? ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Tackyhillbilly</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 00:59:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3664931#msg3664931">Quote from: Christa McGinn on 22-09-2010, 00:52:39</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Inside Christine or Lolita? ;)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>This, while certainly not an objectionable option, perhaps should be preceded by something.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 01:02:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Darn...;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 01:10:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Although, I can just imagine the look on Alistairs face when tom just appears there "Opps fucked your slave"
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 01:17:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hey guys, there are others who would like to play you know.&nbsp; Please dont ignore other folks in the game, this is about playing as a group, I hate it when people are ignored.&nbsp; Especially my characters.<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 01:18:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Who's being ignored?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 01:27:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Dont worry kaz, me and lovely might be heading towards Cyril now.. After all.. Valentine has yet to see his Friend yet.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 01:31:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Also, I'm having Lolita come in as a slave girl who has been broken and in training for a year. Not fully trained, but getting there. I was wondering who I could put in as being Lolita's first? Would it have been Lord Ambrose? Or Alistair, Valentine, Victor, Tom, Cyril or....who? Any volunteers? Obviously we wouldn't play this out, as this would have been when she first arrived a year ago. Young redhead virgin...going once! Going twice.....!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 01:34:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				well, Valentine could be a good explanation of how she came to love scarification.. after being taken and given a mark by him she could have fallen in love with&nbsp; how it looked.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 01:37:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Firsy sorry for up there ^^^^^ was having an unloved moment and completely missed Cyril's post. *rolls eyes*<br><br>I would think you could have your choice of family men to take it.&nbsp; It would be one of the three though, they and they alone 'pick the cherries' so to speak
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 01:39:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ok. Well, since Alistair is taking Christine, I guess it should be Valentine or Morgan. And since Valentine spoke first, then Valentine it is! Congratulations! You get one more destroyed innocence on your character's conscience! Yay!<br><br>And it's ok Kaz. It happens...*hugs*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 01:41:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sweet, nothing like the taste of innocence in the morning... or at 8 o'clock at night something like that.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Teridas</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 01:41:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3665146#msg3665146">Quote from: kaz on 22-09-2010, 01:37:10</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Firsy sorry for up there ^^^^^ was having an unloved moment and completely missed Cyril's post. *rolls eyes*<br><br>I would think you could have your choice of family men to take it.&nbsp; It would be one of the three though, they and they alone 'pick the cherries' so to speak<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Now look at who's feeling unloved&nbsp; :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 01:42:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hey Kaz, I can have Victoria go back to her room to clean up. That way she's free to receive anyone that wishes to call on her. There's plenty of Vic to go around!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Tackyhillbilly</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 01:42:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Still looking for somewhere to put Tom. That concievably could lead to being inside Christine or Lolita.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 01:45:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Haha. As soon as I finish Lolita's bio, I'll ask for Kaz's approval and then perhaps I can put her somewhere in order to lead Tom into the story. Tom could show up in the main house and talk to Victor, perhaps...seeing as how Victor's his boss, I believe. That could be an entrance. *shrugs*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 01:47:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well he could be preparing her for the party.. he is a foot man and I think they do assist in training.. you could jump right into that.. doing a review of sorts before the party so others may question her or use her in a trail manner, a knowledgeable slave sells high.. and what she said could work as well
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 01:48:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				The desire to shag the first thing you see is commendable but Kaz did say she didn't want this to be a fuckfest, yet all we've done since the start is pretty much that. How about we try some socializing? I have Emma just running about the place working, which has been quite a lot of fun. Tom could do that.<br><br>Also, after tonight perhaps Kaz could call a time out, the clock jumps forward and everyone gathers in the library for pre-dinner drinks, then on to dinner in the dining room. Something like that anyway which will move the game on.<br><br>I don't want to sound pushy but giving the game some shape other than couples doing it in every available corner would add to the setting I think.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 01:51:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yes, but he chose Gerard Butler. 'Nuf said. ;) It's up to him, I was just showing my interest. And besides, nothing has to led directly to sex. I believe there has been quite a bit of story going on, but perhaps I just imagined that.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 01:52:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				yeah, hai does prove a point. Im good with that.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 01:55:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I can think of eight characters who've either had sex or are involved in sexual scenes already. I was just saying that Tacky doesn't need to jump right into a sexual scene, nor does anybody, there are other options. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 01:57:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				And I do believe Mrs. Hemlock was one of them. ;)<br><br>And of course there are other options. I never said there weren't. This isn't a free for all fuckfest, and I never thought it was. Tacky can simply come in and work. Even if he meets Lolita at the beginning, they can just talk. I was just having some fun in the OOC thread. Sorry if that made me sound like a cyber-happy teenager.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 02:01:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				And I am having fun being a general pest to my brother, or maybe helping him.. who knows.. maybe hes happy his pet is mad at him even more.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 02:02:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3665324#msg3665324">Quote from: Christa McGinn on 22-09-2010, 01:57:44</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">And I do believe Mrs. Hemlock was one of them. ;)</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div> I agree. But you said you couldn't think of anyone and I suggested there had been a lot. And thus its time to move on. But let's not labour that point.<br><br>I have been trying to move Hemlock on from there for a day but my writing partner is absent.<br><br>As both the players my two characters are with have not posted for 24 hours my two chars are in limbo, but as Hemlock is quite useful to have free in order to have things get done, if anyone needs her they can come and interrupt and I will finish that scene with Flo.<br><br>Can't say fairer than that.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Teridas</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 02:04:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3665344#msg3665344">Quote from: Isengrad on 22-09-2010, 02:01:18</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">And I am having fun being a general pest to my brother, or maybe helping him.. who knows.. maybe hes happy his pet is mad at him even more.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Going to get in on this trainwreck. Just like old times lol
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 02:08:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I just meant that there was usually some story behind the sex to begin with.<br><br>1. Alistair &amp; Christine: Breaking in of a new slave.<br>2. Morgan &amp; Constance: Establishment of the relationship between the Lord and Lady of the manor.<br>3. Mrs. Hemlock &amp; Charity: Punishment for Charity wearing a dress.<br>4. Valentine &amp; Victoria: Old friends returning to each other and talking about Valentine's travels.<br><br>Not sure if there were others...<br><br>Anyway, just saying that most of the sexual encounters have had a point and were not solely for sex's sake. But you don't have to agree, just stating my opinion.<br><br>And I'm just now finishing up Lolita. I'm thinking she might go to Victor and ask if he has a task for her, getting to work.<br><br>That is, if Kaz approves her...sorry, didn't mean to sound like it was assumed. *offers cookies in apology*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 02:25:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Okies, I will call dinner tomorrow.&nbsp; Giving time to get things finished up.&nbsp; I think dinner should be a grand affair.&nbsp; With our Butler and Mrs Hmlock overseeing the maids who are choosen to serve it.&nbsp; I am thinking they could serve it in the nude, being open for fondles and such like.&nbsp; I think the house will have some very kinky goings ons.&nbsp; As if there arent already..:P:P<br><br>And yup, shes approved, we do need a few more girlies to join the fun.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 02:28:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Aww...thanks Kaz! And how do you do that thing where the image appears on the left or right with the text around or beside it?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>evilnerf</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 02:29:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I hearby give Christa McGinn carte blanche with my character.&nbsp; She can make him act in however she sees fit without my permission.&nbsp; Just stating it for the record.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 02:30:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="floatleft">then image</div>&nbsp; or right if you want it right.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 02:30:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3665546#msg3665546">Quote from: evilnerf on 22-09-2010, 02:29:40</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I hearby give Christa McGinn carte blanche with my character.&nbsp; She can make him act in however she sees fit without my permission.&nbsp; Just stating it for the record.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>And vice versa for EvilNerf with mine...just if for sake of continuity, they need to move them a certain way or something.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Tackyhillbilly</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 02:40:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sure, Tom could take Lolita. Perhaps she's been given the task of helping him feed the animals.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 02:43:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That sounds good. She could begin in the stables, being told to help Tom. This would also allow her to wear a dress for protection from the cold.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Tackyhillbilly</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 02:49:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, she can start. Tom might not agree.<br><br>Short Post- just putting Tom in the Stables, waiting for Lolita.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 03:10:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3665540#msg3665540">Quote from: Christa McGinn on 22-09-2010, 02:28:29</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Aww...thanks Kaz! And how do you do that thing where the image appears on the left or right with the text around or beside it?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Just quote her post is the easiest thing and you'll see [ floatleft ] and [ /floatleft ] tags around the img (without the spaces... and the opposite of course to put it on the right). I use 'padding=5' as well inside the first img tag [ img padding=5 ] which gives a nice neat 5 pixel border.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>The Lovely Tsaritsa</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 03:41:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think maybe it’s better if I leave this game. I guess my character doesn't fit in?<br><br>Tahnk you kaz for letting me make my character, writting Charlotte was fun.<br><br>You all write beautiful hot dirty scenes, have lots of fun! Maybe I see you in other games on E. <br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 03:50:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hm... <br><br>Where are people now? Is the main group still in the drawing room or have you moved? With this frantic pace of posting it would help a lot of people put the room they are in.<br><br>I'm moving Hemlock from the library to the kitchen and am not sure if she will meet anyone.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 03:51:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				still in the drawing room
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 03:54:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Everyone is? Okay.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 04:00:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				well Valentine, Evie and cyril are, The lord and lady are in transit form the first floor to the bedrooms... so its reasonable that if she were to step from the kitchen she could catch sight of them. If i remember right victor is .. or was in the kitchen drinking some tea. victoria is now in the white bedroom(story wise i think).. and of course Alistair and his toy are in his room
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 04:06:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Excellent thanks.<br><br>Unfortunately at the rate you lot are posting five replies had gone up while I was writing my post :)<br><br>I'm wondering what will happen when a slower posting player is involved in a scene.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 04:11:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				If it does get to be a serious problem we can have a limit of posts, a halt if you will so others can catch up.truthfully I need to go to bed soon, i do work in the morning. getting up around 4 am is no picnic... and as its 10 o'clock.. sigh i should not have started that scene.. i feel like a tool for starting something I cant finish tonight.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Teridas</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 04:14:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				No worries we can make it quick if you want.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 04:18:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				no, i have an idea, not a quickie.. but a short reprive.. and maybe a fine show for the dinner that evening.Its safe to asusme Valentine would have been informed by Curiror as to the plans that night on his arival.. is it not better to make a punishment public.. either that or an after dinner thing.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Teridas</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 04:29:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				There's an idea I wouldn't mind of course as long as kaz is alright with it being our makeshift instrument&nbsp; :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 04:33:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Either way i removed myself from the scene, you two can continue without me if you'd like, My next post will probably be the dinner party. He did take the paddle with him, if your going to go for hand spanking remember to cup the hand slightly to get the curvature of the buttock.<br><br>ok, With that said good night everybody. sweet dreams.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 09:19:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry I ducked out on you guys, was gone 3am here, lol I think punishment at dinner sounds devine.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 13:08:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I will start a new thread for the dining room, as it could be a popular thread over time.&nbsp; I want to find a good image of a victorian dining room.&nbsp; Popping out for a few minutes when I get back I will start it.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 13:26:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3667584#msg3667584">Quote from: kaz on 22-09-2010, 13:08:08</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I want to find a good image of a victorian dining room.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div> You already have one. Check the information thread.<br><br>Cragside has a nice circular table about the right size for the number of guests. It could have a lazy susan in the middle which could be used for other purposes, say, for pudding...<br><br>I have found a good picture of just about every single principal room in the house other than the bedrooms. Please use them, they were not a ten minute job to find.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 13:58:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Thanks hun, fantastic, half asleep today I dont function well on 4 hrs sleep&nbsp; LOL
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 14:03:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ag, you should get much more! Idiot!&nbsp; ???<br><br>If I were there I'd tire you out and tie you to the bed to make you get at least 7 hours... of sleep that is.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 14:08:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Mmmmm sounds good to me...7 hours in bed would be great.....sleeping of course :P<br><br>I'm confused today, cant make head nor tail of whats going on.&nbsp; LOL not hard to do beleive me.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kate</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 15:06:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Haibane - interesting post <br><br>one that reads like a journal entry of the character's thoughts was something I didn't expect <br>(refreshing seeing anothers writing style) ... cool ! .<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 15:14:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hey guys, I think I'm gonna back out of this game.&nbsp; It hasnt gone in the direction I wanted it too and I feel very disheartened.&nbsp; I wanted a good fun game, but people have left and have been put off by things.&nbsp; I feel I just didnt put across what I wanted.&nbsp; I could start again, but I dont know if I want too.&nbsp; I had such hopes for it.<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 15:19:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Awww, please don't do that. We can make this work if we all work to do what you wanted. You are the GM, what you say goes. Anyone who argues with you should go find another game and not behave in a way that drives the GM away from her own creation.<br><br>This place would not be right without your lovely version of Her Ladyship.<br><br>I'm aware of what has been going on behind the scenes... and I think we need a 24 hour break from all posting so you can go get a decent sleep and get your head fixed.<br><br>Then I think we should come back into the OOC and discuss the way forwards.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 15:21:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3667743#msg3667743">Quote from: Kate on 22-09-2010, 15:06:58</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Haibane - interesting post <br><br>one that reads like a journal entry of the character's thoughts was something I didn't expect <br>(refreshing seeing anothers writing style) ... cool ! .<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Thanks. Its how I develop my characters. I've been doing it all game with Hemlock, I build the game world around me with internalizations, describing rooms and people and how the household works from their POV.<br><br>The downside is it makes for long posts and in this game I get a teeny bit left behind.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Laughing Hyena</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 15:33:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Im good with what you decide kaz and I loved the story so far you setup. I wanna keep it going even if its a restart
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 15:37:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I just wanted more than sex.&nbsp; And yet I'm there doing it.&nbsp; I wanted to see so much happen, slaves going to dungeons, being trained.&nbsp; I really didnt want folks to leave, and they have and I havent even knowledged them.<br><br>I will sleep on it, ask you all to think about your characters.&nbsp; I wanted girls who had no other choice, the victims were meant to be taken from the streets, no hope, no families, nothing to life for.&nbsp; I know some of you are having fun, but I feel so lost and confused right now I have no idea where to even start to pull it back to what I saw.<br><br>I need sleep I know, I dont want any more sex started, please finish your scenes and then lets get&nbsp; to dinner.&nbsp; I wont let any mroe slave characters if they are purely gonna be to go and get shagged, lets see some real character stuff.&nbsp; Dress, drink, discuss.&nbsp; Please dont stick to your 'friends' write with folks you dont know, involve those who arent involved yet.<br><br>I will stick around, but I am going to change things.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 16:25:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				It might be interesting as well to come up with different plot hooks as well, challenges beyond the normal rigors of slave trading.. there could be another group or family of slave traders looking to cut out a piece of The family profit.. The Church could actually be a threat to the operation and lets not forget the chance of an investigation into the girls where abouts.. this is probably something they have to deal with from time to time.. and from here we can get into other things, what should happen if an inspector finds out about them.. would they pay him off, let him go, or kill him to keep it a secret and thier profits high.. either way they might have to deal with a fall out. A good brain storming session might be in order.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 16:33:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I like those ideas Isen, thats what I want, I want plot.&nbsp; Not so much sex, its great I know but lets have other stuff.&nbsp; Feel free to toss ideas up here.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 16:41:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Perhaps Victoria brings members of her staff, to have them broken and trained since she is so impressed with how the staff works at the manor. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 16:48:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Actually that Idea could work now.Christa's main rpc was not actually an untouchable... she had a family and was actually earning income for them.. she was taken off the street and told to the family presented as one that had nothing. I wouldn't say this should happen at the dinner tonight.. but at the Christmas party(eventually it is going to happen) we should have an inspector come to the house asking questions.. he had tracked a few leads to the house.. now he doesn't quite believe it himself but it something he has to follow up on. This could set the family on edge.. forcing us to make a decision.. and whatever one we make will have its consequences.<br><br>we could also have other ideas, Alistair seems like a man that can kill on a whim(if properly inebriated) we can have that and deal with the fallout, hell it could even be a cardinal he ends up killing.. even sparking angry mobs of Christians to assault the Ambrose house when he is a suspect, maybe have them torch the barn... then its a mad dash to save what animals we can while the mob runs away.<br><br>There is a lot of stuff we can do, we just have to think about it and pick one out as a group.<br><br>Lovely proves a point as well, we could get special requests.. what about corruption within the church, A clergyman who desires the pleasure of the flesh.. so he send to us his favorite NUN to train for him.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 16:55:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Good idea but I think having too many other owned slaves around makes this dark illegal sub culture more exposed to risk. At Forest Keep the slaves are prisoners but taking one out in a coach to visit another estate is quite a security risk, even if he or she was gagged and trussed up in a trunk! I think perhaps one visiting char could do this but more than that and the bounds of believability get pushed.<br><br>I was thinking that when the nobility go to another estate to spend a few days there, they would have their own maid/footman go with them (depending on guest gender) so there ought to be several more NPC staff about who work for the guests, say 1 each. Players should feel free to throw these NPCs into the conversations and scenes and not rely on the actual played maids and footmen (or which there are too few).<br><br>Talking of NPCs there was George on the door when Duchess Apnea arrived and as my maid Emma puzzled over this, there would possibly be another NPC maid there too while Emma was away. Its totally unforgivable for a house like this not to have a staff member waiting to open a door to a guest, so please bear that in mind folks when you do stuff and a player character is not around - just invent an NPC and play it how it would have been done.<br><br>I thought Lovely lilT who quit the game because everyone was ignoring her had the best slave profile - a daughter sold to pay off her fathers crippling debts. If you take that concept and notch it up a social class or three we could have the daughter of a very well to do noble sold into slavery which would be a serious mind fuck for the girl concerned.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 17:03:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Last i saw of Lil T's girl is she was tossed into Alisters room( Though I cant confirm this cause she deleted her posts ) we can always talk to her.. see if she wants to come back and try this again... first few pages is always a flurry and we were still getting organized.<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kate</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 17:27:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well my character's witchery focus could change<br><br>(or if she is part of the problem she can be removed - its only like 5 posts for her to disappear :)<br><br>Or phps different sections or rooms where sex is more overt / others areas where tis more refined and some inbetween - others linger in places that suit their natures more ?<br><br>(assigning some slaves / servants / maids to ceratin others "to manage / use / train / whatver" could help means less needs to keeping track of matters)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 17:35:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Actually kate you Whole Witchery thing is an interesting character hook, and i can see valentine having a stimulating conversation with her, even going so far as to point out the similarities between the two religions as is, the purpose of making Christmas the night of the winter solstice, and other such things. <br><br>Just imagine how flustered she will be when he points out shes trying to do the same thing the catholic church is doing by trying to force her religious views on other people.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kate</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 17:38:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Its more a sub-plot I want to offer perhaps happens in one wing... I dont want it to dominate too much nor suck too many dominate characters away for too long. It happening in the background would be more sensible.<br><br>As it would be more complicated - it wouldnt be straight sex... it would be highly structured... and be dominated by a lot of dialogue
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 17:56:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I hope this does not come off as bitter and bitching - Kate's character is a duchess. Mine is a countess. I know it's a little detail, but I keep reading countess and think it's referring to me. Sorry to complain. *lowers eyes*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 17:57:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*sighs* If I'm the problem, I can just leave. I would never want to do anything to make Kaz abandon her game. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 17:59:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3668307#msg3668307">Quote from: Christa McGinn on 22-09-2010, 17:57:50</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">*sighs* If I'm the problem, I can just leave. I would never want to do anything to make Kaz abandon her game.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Kaz isn't going anywhere
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Teridas</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 18:04:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3668304#msg3668304">Quote from: lovelygirl11 on 22-09-2010, 17:56:37</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I hope this does not come off as bitter and bitching - Kate's character is a duchess. Mine is a countess. I know it's a little detail, but I keep reading countess and think it's referring to me. Sorry to complain. *lowers eyes*<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>My fault sorry, fixed&nbsp; :-)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 18:07:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'll be blunt and say the Duchess is a small problem for our GM, but I think possibly because she's so in your face. She's really loud and obvious. The witchcraft is good and a whole shitload of that went on in Victorian England. Perhaps the part that could be put aside is the anti-church hate?<br><br>Every family almost without exception would celebrate Christmas in the traditional way in the Victorian era, they invented Christmas cards then and Prince Albert started the fashion of a tree as well, Christmas (and some pretty intense religious conviction) were completely ingrained in the fabric of the society back then, far more so than now. There would be carols sung around the piano and Church in the morning and all that jazz... I'm not saying the Ambroses are especially devout but its just there, not so much in your face as like the building blocks of society. It seems weird that the Duchess knows the Ambroses so well and yet chooses to come at Christmas knowing the family will be celebrating traditionally... its like hating Justin Timberlake so bad you want to drown him, then agreeing to go with a friend to one of his concerts.<br><br>While an anti-Christian person is fine, someone so outspoken against royalty <em>is</em> a little odd... seeing as again Victoria was one of the best monarchs Britain ever had and under her rule the country became immensely powerful and had a vast empire and dynamic economy, she was squeaky clean and very proper and nearly everyone loved her...<br><br>Well, meh, I don't want to labour the point... a witch is good. Occult is good, even hating the church and the Queen is okay but maybe calm those parts down. I think its just the loudness of it! LOL. Perhaps if the gas under the anti-royalty and anti-church parts could be dialled down a few notches the Duchess would fit in better.<br><br>Oops, hope I'm not causing offence... just tying to help. I also love the second pic you chose for her. Very striking.<br><br>And as you can see young Emma might be curious about occulty things.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 18:09:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hhehe, I did offer Kaz early on a piece about English nobility and ranks and such but the detail wasn't wanted.<br><br>I'm not sure you even have countesses in England actually, I think its a European title. LOL.<br><br>A Duchess would be a married woman too - married to a Duke (the highest level of nobility).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 18:43:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				You do have countesses, but they were the wives of the earl.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 18:50:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				A point made to Haibane earlier while we discussed some plot ideas.She told me to mention it here so i will ^^.<br><br>we should get a List of the Npc's we create to fill certain roles. that way if we need on we can check the list and see if one needs to be created. so far i know of two.<br><br>Gorge:Doorman at the Ambrose estate.<br>Nathan: Servant to the Duchess<br><br>and of course there are various maids as well, but those are like scenery... they don't need names.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kate</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 18:54:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				thats cool !<br><br>Hey I dont mind withdrawing.. lol there everoyne else was worrying about it being them.<br><br>I know my character is "very extreme" Im happy to back out my posts - and she wasnt really part of the game yet - none have really done anythign with her. :) only one or two posts that fix it that others have to do<br><br>.. .will delete them now :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kate</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 19:03:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				... and anyone interrupting my time with my husband well ?<br><br>Someone who did that could use her voodoo to disappear :)&nbsp; <br>and now for my next trick :) poof all posts gone / character entry gone<br><br>Already this place is packed with characters - proves how interesting and facinating it is generally (never seen such interest before ! and juggling too many themes / character types is asking a lot from those managing it )<br><br>Do enjoy all ! (no bitter feelings I hope / these things happen )<br><br>oxo
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 19:08:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				you don't have to back out kate, Simple reworking and ret-con of a few of the posts.. most of yours are self contained anyway as you spent a few posts getting there.<br><br>However this is your choice, You do what you feel is best but like hai said you don't Have to leave.. just dial it down a bit.<br><br>Or, yeah you can leave... good luck kate
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 19:35:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well I'm staying dammit, you all are gonna have to deal with Victoria in one way or another!&nbsp; LOL
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 19:43:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				good, this should all turn out well in the end.. Know we can get this going.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 20:05:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I dont want anyone to leave.&nbsp; ALready had enough of that, I'm gonna start dinner tomorrow, so that gives us a few hours to get things finished and then onto dinner.&nbsp; I want to have a few more plots in this, and see people having fun in other ways.&nbsp; We will of course have some sexy goings on, no fun without them :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 20:15:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh don't worry Kaz, there will be plenty of plots I already have some great ideas, *winks*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 20:17:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Unfortunatly kaz, kate already left... sigh, but we can always invite her back if she wants to come back. but i'm going out for a bit.. i already stated that Valentine is out until the dinner later unless I decide otherwise.. maybe a nice talk with his mother later would work well.. of course the lord no longer had to leave his wife.. or be troubled by any of the duchess letters now... so hyena has some ret coning to do as well<br><br><br>and ive posted a lot of mine so yeah, Ill be heading out soon.<br><br>On a side note we have someone wanting to join as a slave in training, also brining with her her own plot hook in her brother.. a nice little way to control the both of them i would say
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 20:23:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*sighs* I would love the new folks to join.&nbsp; I want to get those who said they wanted to join have a go here.&nbsp; I want them to come and get stuck in.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 20:33:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				we can still do that ^^ Dont worry, intrest in this game is great. it represents all that is dark in man, heres not mcuh of an outlet for that in the real world without crossing the law.. so many people will jump at the chance to do it here.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 20:36:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Thanks hun, hopefully I feel more like posting tomorrow once we start dinner.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 22:25:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Can we not get Kate back? I wasn't saying the character was unacceptable, just that she was a bit extreme in her views. I think some occulty stuff would work well. I don't think we want pentangles and demon summoning... but some dark stuff would be an interesting sub-plot.<br><br>*sigh* walking away from problems is not going to fix them. Maybe she'd like to play a new character?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 22:27:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah I dont want her to leave, I dont want anyone to leave.&nbsp; I was looking for that picture of the dining room, but I cant see it.&nbsp; I might start the dinner thread once I have it.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 22:29:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3668448#msg3668448">Quote from: Isengrad on 22-09-2010, 18:50:36</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">A point made to Haibane earlier while we discussed some plot ideas.She told me to mention it here so i will ^^.<br><br>we should get a List of the Npc's we create to fill certain roles. that way if we need on we can check the list and see if one needs to be created. so far i know of two.<br><br>Gorge:Doorman at the Ambrose estate.<br>Nathan: Servant to the Duchess<br><br>and of course there are various maids as well, but those are like scenery... they don't need names.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>George is the footman/doorman/bag carrier and I also used Arthur and James. They took Christine to be bathed and brought her back.<br><br>There are two cooks, one senior, one secondary plus a cooks assistant and a scullery maid - all female and all based in the kitchen, I didn't give names. In big houses the cook tended to get called Cook, strangely enough.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 22:38:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3669298#msg3669298">Quote from: kaz on 22-09-2010, 22:27:56</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Yeah I dont want her to leave, I dont want anyone to leave.&nbsp; I was looking for that picture of the dining room, but I cant see it.&nbsp; I might start the dinner thread once I have it.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3659364#msg3659364 (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3659364#msg3659364)<br><br>I have added that post to the Information Thread (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=83068.msg3669338#msg3669338).<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 22:42:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh for heaven's sake! Kate's deleted her posts.<br><br>This is actually against site rules. Please people do NOT delete posts, it makes the game a complete mess because people posting in response to you then have to either edit their posts (lots of bloody hard work) or their posts stand but the game is garbled and new people joining haven't a clue what is going on.<br><br>*sigh* All this only makes our job much effing harder.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 22:44:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Haibane, nice work on the pictures
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 22:47:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Thank you. I was pleased to find them, they add so much to the game I think.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 22:47:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				yes they do * bows to your greatness* Thanks for the hard work.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 22:50:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I've been working on finding pictures for the bedroom and other things. It's completely up to Kaz whether she uses them, but I'll show her some options tonight. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 22:51:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I've visited this house as well, it really is a fantastic place, like a perfect time capsule. Wonderful.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 22:55:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				It looks it. There are a few places around here, Like down in Newport RI where all the mansions are
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 22:58:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*bounces around in glee*<br><br>I have found MORE pictures. Only small ones, but will link them in the info thread.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 22:59:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I love the pictures, they are fab, thanks hun :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 23:00:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I meant to say, please let me know who is still here.&nbsp; Thank you all :):)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 23:26:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Me. Obviously.<br><br>Found a possible contender for the Bamboo Bedroom:<br><br>http://nttreasurehunt.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/ntpl_143644.jpg (http://nttreasurehunt.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/ntpl_143644.jpg)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 23:35:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*raises hand* still here! 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Teridas</strong> on <strong>22-09-2010, 23:54:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm still here&nbsp; ;D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 00:00:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well, never mind then. <br><br><br>I'm still here. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>evilnerf</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 00:54:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm Still Here (http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/im-still-here-20100817-090648.jpg)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 01:20:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ok dinner thread up.&nbsp; Now slaves can be brought along but there are a few rules.<br><br>They must not speak<br>They must sit on the floor<br>They must behave at all times<br>They will answer to the Butler in this room<br>They must be wearing some kind of clothing<br>They will be rewarded for good behaviour<br>They may only drink water but they will recieve a good meal.<br><br>If they misbehave they will not be fed and spend the night in the dungeon or in the stable block where anything could happen to them.&nbsp; Punishment decided by The Butler and Mrs Hemlock.<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 01:36:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ok...although Alistair is forcing Christine down into the dining room, so she's not going to know the rules.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 01:37:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				He best tell her or else Mummy might have to tell him off and take the dear girl aside.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 01:38:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I would imagine, lol. *looks to EvilNerf* I don't know what he's got up his sleeve though.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 01:41:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yes and that worries me, as I think he might enjoy spanking mummy if she tries to tell him off.&nbsp; Never mind dear girl, you will soon learn&nbsp; &gt;:)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Teridas</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 01:44:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Perhaps a little music? I still need to pull out the violin I suppose.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 01:47:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh, and Teridas? I don't know if you read Lolita's bio, but she sings and such...as well as plays the violin. She learned it from a man who frequented her mother....<br><br>Anyway, she's very musical. Just thought you'd like to know.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>evilnerf</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 01:48:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Alistair is nothing if not a force of nature.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Teridas</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 01:49:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'll have to remember that&nbsp; ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 01:54:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think we should require all slaves to know the rules now, even if Evilnerf hasn't used them IC yet, we must assume he has. If the slaves were raw and unruly and unbroken they would not be brought along to a formal dinner in front of guests because they'd just show everyone that the Ambroses cannot break a slave.<br><br>So... no slaves playing up in the dining room should be the RP rule in force here I think.<br><br>As a side note, Evilnerf, rope bondage like Alistair just used was basically unknown to the Victorians. What you used is based on an oriental style. Arms tied behind the back is about it for the Victorians. They were just not minded in that way.<br><br>So it would be good if we can try to keep in period at least a bit.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>evilnerf</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 02:03:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				There's a saying in my field.<br><br>Realism is all well and good until it starts making the story hard to tell. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 02:03:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I believe Nerf was saying that Alistair wanted to cause trouble and upset his family.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 02:05:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3670329#msg3670329">Quote from: evilnerf on 23-09-2010, 02:03:02</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">There's a saying in my field.<br><br>Realism is all well and good until it starts making the story hard to tell.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>What is the relevance of that in light of my remark?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 02:07:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3670333#msg3670333">Quote from: Christa McGinn on 23-09-2010, 02:03:46</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I believe Nerf was saying that Alistair wanted to cause trouble and upset his family.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>But wouldn't that be stupid at a gathering like this where the quality of the family's slaves, techniques and <em>resalable value</em> is important. Lord Ambrose wouldn't get rich by having his dinner parties disrupted by unruly slaves that were badly behaved.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>evilnerf</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 02:10:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ahah, but what if Alistair wanted to keep this one?&nbsp; Wouldn't making her unsellable be of value to him?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 02:11:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Also, Japanese rope bondage was around long before Victorian times, and I would imagine that Valentine would have encountered it in his travels, as well as the family having contact with someone who had traveled there.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 02:22:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				If there are problems please take them to PM.&nbsp; I am having second thoughts already.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>evilnerf</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 02:43:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm thinking of doing a bit of creative revision.&nbsp; Now, I'm no history major, so I'll ask the rest of you guys:<br><br>LovelyGirl and I are trying to add animosity to our characters.&nbsp; &nbsp;We want to find something that Alistair would want that she could give him in exchange for remaining unmolested.&nbsp; Any ideas?<br><br>I'm thinking that Alistair is angling for knighthood (for the chicks, of course).<br><br>Does that sound plausible?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 02:49:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I have a BA in history, although I don't know everything about this era.<br><br>That sounds plausible that he'd want it, but I don't believe her character would have any influence on that. If she wanted to make her girl more buddy/buddy with the queen, then she could offer to try, but generally knighthood requires more than just knowing someone...even back then. And as I don't see Alistair as the kind to do any service to the crown, which is generally what it required. Either that or some outstanding achievement for the kingdom.<br><br>However, he could be angling for more land, or even a higher title. That's more believable.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>evilnerf</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 02:54:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hmm.&nbsp; Maybe securing her support in what he sees as an upcoming coup by his brother?&nbsp; He's the Eldest, so his position is fairly solid, but with the countess' help, perhaps Valentine would be able to overcome his hold?<br><br>So, he secures the Countess' political loyalty in exchange for her physical safety from him.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 03:21:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				A note on the Rope bondage, I think it would be really rare for Valentine to have come upon the Japanese rope binding, I think that at this point in history japan still had closed borders... Not entirely sure on that.. the farthest his travel would have taken him is china.<br><br>With that being said, individuality is also a concern. Anyone with a mathematical mind can look at a length of rope and create designs in his head, if Alistair is a person like that.. then I can see some interesting body ties.. nothing exceedingly fancy, but still complex.<br><br>If it were up to me, If you made any reference to japan or Japanese i would edit that out.. simplify the bondage just a bit if its to complicated. But as we Have Gm's... I go back to the golden rule of D&amp;D with this one GM's word is law.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Teridas</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 03:24:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3670666#msg3670666">Quote from: Isengrad on 23-09-2010, 03:21:50</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I go back to the golden rule of D&amp;D with this one GM's word is law.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>DM... ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>evilnerf</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 03:48:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				GM is the non-DnD specific term.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 03:54:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				He knows, hes just busting my chops.. thats what my buddies do.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 04:16:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3670554#msg3670554">Quote from: evilnerf on 23-09-2010, 02:54:08</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Hmm.&nbsp; Maybe securing her support in what he sees as an upcoming coup by his brother?&nbsp; He's the Eldest, so his position is fairly solid, but with the countess' help, perhaps Valentine would be able to overcome his hold?<br><br>So, he secures the Countess' political loyalty in exchange for her physical safety from him.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>And perhaps down the lie she betrays him, thus breaking the agreement?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>evilnerf</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 04:21:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Perhaps!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 04:25:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				She does have a soft spot for Valen after all. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 04:29:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3670415#msg3670415">Quote from: kaz on 23-09-2010, 02:22:53</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">If there are problems please take them to PM. I am having second thoughts already.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>I did. I'm awaiting your reply.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 04:30:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Alright...are we allowed to go ahead and post in the dining room when our characters are available? I forget what Kaz said. Also, I need to find a good outfit...or lack thereof...for Lolita, as Kaz said she wanted the slaves to wear at least something, if I remember right.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 04:47:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				let me know when you do, can always have her brought to Valentine during the dinner, someone to keep a handle on her... but tonight I need to head to bed. And nerf take another look at the dining room.. your talking to someone thats not there.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 06:14:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I have a few options for possible outfits for my slave girl (Lolita) at dinner. Whenever Kaz gets up, I'd appreciate her opinion.<br><br>One (http://www.corsets-lingerie.co.uk/sei/s/1825/e/ax008.jpg)<br>Two (http://www.corsets-lingerie.co.uk/sei/s/1825/e/ax006.jpg)<br>Three (http://www.corsets-lingerie.co.uk/sei/s/1825/e/ax009.jpg)<br>Four (http://www.corsets-lingerie.co.uk/sei/s/1825/687.jpg)<br>Five (http://www.dillingerink.com/Costumes/GoldWhiteVictorianFrontClose3.jpg)<br>Six (http://www.antiquecorsetgallery.com/gallery/pinksateen/pinksateen1.jpg)<br>Seven (http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/dr/dreamgirl-wedding-night-lingerie-victorian-bride-set.jpg)<br>Eight (http://www.phoebestrousseau.com/catalog/images/images_big/4272_Nuptials%20copy.jpg)<br>Nine (http://ny-image2.etsy.com/il_430xN.81031302.jpg)<br>Ten (http://www.dillingerink.com/Intimates/underbustle.jpg)<br>Eleven (http://www.tomtop.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/ced77cb19565515451b3578a3bc0ea5e/2/1/2129_1.jpg)<br>Twelve (http://s8.thisnext.com/media/largest_dimension/8FC3B5F7.jpg)<br>Thirteen (http://www-cache.daz3d.com/store/item_file/2159/med_popup_1.jpg)<br>Fourteen (http://www.love-of-lingerie.com/images/victorian-nightgowns-90.jpg)<br>Fifteen (http://www.gundamvader.net/files/slave_big.jpg)....hehe. ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Kate</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 11:51:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hey all, <br><br>I was a little confused about some views expressed. However it wasn't my intention to rock the boat of the theme. A few misconceptions I would just like to tidy up - but I do understand that others are right to have their views.<br><br><div align="center">*</div><br><em>"It seems weird that the Duchess knows the Ambroses so well and yet chooses to come at Christmas knowing the family will be celebrating traditionally... its like hating Justin Timberlake so bad you want to drown him, then agreeing to go with a friend to one of his concerts."</em><br><br>- Having Expectations, Hope and Knowing are different things. More power more more money&nbsp; =&gt; More eccentric. Any in history as much as Ambrose ? Who knows ? Some were insular, and things suspected were not often reported as the more you move back in history the more noble you are the more it implies more leniency, and anyone else who has a problem with it "is" the problem. Even if she secretly knew he wouldnt give up Xmas but simply hoped, such a thing would be a target fort he socially immature, wanting to create a scene, loving the drama of doing so. "Feeling releavent" (Where before her social imaturity made her feel alone and left out at her own manor).<br><br><em>"While an anti-Christian person is fine, someone so outspoken against royalty is a little odd... seeing as again Victoria was one of the best monarchs Britain ever had and under her rule the country became immensely powerful and had a vast empire and dynamic economy"<br></em><br>- I doubt He Dutchess would have had many if any Lords who would want others thinking they are associated with her for that very reason. I view was the Lord tollerated her eccentricity for his own amusement, manipulating her as much as she herself manipulated things. Ridiculous wealth and power can do strange things.<br><br><em>"[Queen Victoria] ... she was squeaky clean and very proper and nearly everyone loved her...""</em><br><br>- Such things concerning Queens and Kings is usually more a sign of sublime political prowess or simply those who hated them not given air time (or omitted) from history books. Vic made many changes and change always upsets a few who liked things more as they were before. Apnea would hate her passionately if she simply approval a cathedral being built within sight of her property. Remember also with incredible wealth and power Apnea's sights of what "should be" to be "good enough to be happy" could be very ambitious, just how many top royalty have been. Some people born having everything their way expect the world to follow.<br><br><em>"Perhaps if the gas under the anti-royalty and anti-church parts could be dialled down a few notches the Duchess would fit in better."</em><br><br>- Fitting in with the established culture wasn't exactly the character concept :)<br><br><em>"Oh for heaven's sake! Kate's deleted her posts."</em><br><br>- This wasn't out of spite or bitterness. They simply seemed to be causing distress at the time for major players well as being viewed as unrealistic" for the Duchess to be like or do (from this I assumed her posts impinged on believability / workability for others) - perhaps for good reason. <br><br>As "warning" I intended a few "extreme posts" of hers as "Im coming" which intentionally revealed her nature and temperament a long way off, to me time for others to massage what they hoped her her relevance. This thread was super busy - that not happening was not the fault of any of the major players though.<br><br><div align="center">* </div><br>Anyway.... who is right or wrong or&nbsp; what people "should" have done or "should try is now irreleavent.&nbsp; For the few posts I did of her's it was enjoyable playing Anpea, enough to be worth the time for me doing so, so I already feel rewarded. <br><br>And I do hope for others all is good / "better" now I hope :) This theme is a very interesting concept and has and will attract all types, it has all the trappings of becoming a permanent group It already has many off-shoot threads which is a sign of thread health if there is one !<br><br>Happy posting :) 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 13:45:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				A quick note.....<br><br>I am not going to be asking anyone to leave.&nbsp; If there are problems between certain members then please sort them out or get used to the idea.&nbsp; I am going to also say this is a game, and should be fun.&nbsp; I don't want us bogged down by what would and wouldn't have taken place.&nbsp; I am not the sort of GM who tells people what they can and cant post, I hate GMS that stand over you and say that isn't right, you'll have to rewrite. I am also NOT one who is worried by petty things.&nbsp; I wont be telling you the Victorians didn't do that, at the end of the day poetic justice comes into play.&nbsp; <br><br>After doing some digging, they were a very kinky group, as some of the photographs I have found shows.&nbsp; So as far as bondage goes, who cares what sort they would use, I think it was fine, but then I am not a stickler for detail.&nbsp; I want to see people enjoying the game not feeling nervous everytime they post because they might get a PM and told what they wrote wasn't correct.&nbsp; If people don't like it then I wont stop you from leaving.&nbsp; I appreciate Kate's time to post and want to say to her there is always a place here for her, as well as the others who started the game and left.&nbsp; If you should decide to return, you will be most welcome.<br><br>That's my piece, please don't send me long PM's complaining, I will run this game as I want at the end of the day and if folks don't like it then sorry, but tough quiet frankly.&nbsp; I am excited by this and yesterday I was very down hearted by the pettiness I saw.&nbsp; I want a fun, friendly place for folks to write, not a place where they dread posting.&nbsp; <br><br>I have said my piece, if you don't like that then please don't feel you have to stay.&nbsp; If things carry on as they are I will close this game and restart as invited members only.&nbsp; I wont let this game being dragged down because people expect authenticity.&nbsp; Lets face it, we aren't going to get it cos we all want fun.&nbsp; &nbsp;So lets just have that.<br><br>Kaz 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Haibane</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 13:53:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm leaving the game. To the really good players here, thank you - Sashira you were lovely and you can write very well. WritersBlockade and Kate too - it's clear you've great writing talent, I hope I write with you three again. To those who had good ideas and were positive about the problems such as Isengrad; thanks - at least you tried. To the people who royally screwed this game up with RPing that I consider inappropriate and who whined when they were asked to change stuff - bye.<br><br>Enjoy the building plans and photos I spent hours looking for and which only a few of you were well-mannered enough to thank me for, your thanks are appreciated.<br><br>Thanks Kaz, you tried and I know this was stressful for you, but you need to be tougher on people who are taking your games in directions you don't want. I'm on E to have fun, and this isn't it.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 14:50:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I am sorry to see you go hun, thanks for all your help and support though, its been a rocky start.<br><br>I am who I am, and I am a softee.&nbsp; I dotn want folks to feel quashed I want them to have fun.&nbsp; And I want you to as well, its no fun when people dont enjoy what they are doing.<br><br>Everyone else, pelase elt me know if you are remaining.&nbsp; Thanks
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 14:56:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I am in!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AngelsDemonsCode</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 15:20:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*Waves and blushes*<br><br>Hey everyone! Thank you so much Kaz for letting me join in and for <br><br>So, Kaz, where do you recommend Annalisa and Louis to be in the roleplay at the moment? I just don't want to jump right in and mess up everyone's work. I would love to hear your ideas on where they should be so the roleplay will be smoother for everyone.<br><br>I promise that I'll stick to this roleplay thick and thin no matter what. I promise.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 15:26:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well dinner is about to be served.&nbsp; Slaves will be expected to sit on the floor, I am thinking there will be a special area for them, away from the main table but close to it, they will be expected to eat properly, using the correct implements.&nbsp; Being watched by a maid and a footman, so you could have Louis bring his sister in and place her at the slaves table, he could then be the one on duty to watch them today.&nbsp; If thats ok :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AngelsDemonsCode</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 15:29:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That's a great idea. And also maybe the family notices the two wearing the half lockets and realize they're siblings, and begin to wonder what the other shall do with the other one if ordered to do something. They won't say it out loud immediately, but instead keep it to themselves and wonder how this can be used for their <del>pleasure</del> advantage in the near future.<br><br>I'll do that right now if you want.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 15:36:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hmm siblings, I love it!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 15:49:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oooo love it, such a kinky lot :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 16:23:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*sigh* another left... *shakes head* yeah Ill stay
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 16:43:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Two more have just joined, we need some more women.&nbsp; LOL
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>doom29169</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 17:24:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yes, more women!!! LMAO<br><br>I am Marcus, friendly/sadistic horse trainer. I am looking forward to training all the phillies here. &gt;:)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 17:33:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				This Philly doesn't break, except for maybe Valen *wink*<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 17:46:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh and Louis, feel free to call on the Countess anytime, my door is always open to you!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>doom29169</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 17:52:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				we'll see...we'll see... :-)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 18:01:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh yes, we will. I'm not just a common slave girl you know. I can be a beast when I want to.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 18:06:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Nice post Kaz, and you stole my idea with Flashy, you wicked imp! *hugs* Swoon away girl!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 18:14:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Glad to see everyone getting stuck in, need my dearest Husband and Valentine, and our esteemed Butler.&nbsp; All are welcoem to join us for dinner.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 18:45:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm still in, and I'm excited about this game. <br><br>Haibane, although I don't think calling out people (namely, me) in public is appropriate, I'm sorry that you weren't having fun. I hope you find a game that is more to your liking, and thank you for all the hard work you put in. <br><br>Kaz, I agree with everything you said, and I luffles you. *hugs*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>doom29169</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 19:35:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yea I claimed two of them, I am being greedy, sue me!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 19:36:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Haha. Well, both of my girls are in the dining room. Kaz, let me know if everything is alright.<br><br>Anyway, I'm going out with my family this afternoon to EPCOT, but I can reply from my phone. *smooches*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 19:38:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Jealous Christa! But I'll be there in a week myself!<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 19:40:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Really? Cool. I'm actually living in Orlando now. *smiles*<br><br>Although in a bit (hopefully not much longer) I'll be moving to France for a year.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 19:41:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Wow France? Nice!&nbsp; Yep I'm going down for my birthday!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 19:42:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yay! *dances*<br><br>Disney is wonderful.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>23-09-2010, 19:45:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I know! Hey Kaz, mind if I write in a character that's a madam? She comes to pay for girls for her brothel? Let me know if you like the idea or not.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>doom29169</strong> on <strong>24-09-2010, 16:25:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry its short, I will be away for the weekend and I have others to catch up on.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>24-09-2010, 16:27:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just to let you knwo i am full of cold today and have a stinking headache so dont expect much from me.&nbsp; <br><br>Also dont go mad with posts in the dinner thread, let others join in.&nbsp; I am waiting on his Lordship arriving then we will serve dinner.<br><br>*Pokes Hyena*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>24-09-2010, 16:48:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				and so much has happened in there i'm still trying to find a way to catch valentine up.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>24-09-2010, 16:49:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Dear Boy, Mummy is waiting.&nbsp; Come and talk to her :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>24-09-2010, 17:03:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I've asked a couple of folks to come in as assistant GMs for the game, I write with them both in various places and think they will be good here.&nbsp; SO Lovelygirl and Christa welcome, I know they will be great here.<br><br>I want everyone to feel their thoguhts count, so ideas, plots etc, let us know about them. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>24-09-2010, 17:12:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Thanks Kaz! Everyone feel free to contact me at any time! I love how you all are playing! 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>24-09-2010, 17:17:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Thanks Kaz!<br><br>If you guys need anything, send me a PM, an e-mail or contact me on yahoo. I'm excited!<br><br>And I'll be replying to the dinner thing today, although no one has interacted with Lolo. They're all focused on Annalisa... ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>24-09-2010, 17:36:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh Lolo, don't worry, we'll get to you! *Hugs* Christa! 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>24-09-2010, 17:46:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Edited my post, Lolo is now in the game Christa
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>24-09-2010, 18:09:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Lol. Thanks. *hugs*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>24-09-2010, 18:14:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Kaz I have some idea pics for the White Bedroom, want me to PM them to you?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>24-09-2010, 18:15:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sure hun :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>doom29169</strong> on <strong>24-09-2010, 18:23:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hey<br><br>I wanted to be a little more clear, while I do not mind beastility, I do not plan on making it my focus. The occassional trip to the stables or kennels might be fun, but I would rather be the one having sex, not the horses and dogs. I thought I may not have been clear on that earlier, so I was just doing so now.<br><br>Thanks
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>24-09-2010, 18:36:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3677434#msg3677434">Quote from: doom29169 on 24-09-2010, 18:23:57</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Hey<br><br>I wanted to be a little more clear, while I do not mind beastility, I do not plan on making it my focus. The occassional trip to the stables or kennels might be fun, but I would rather be the one having sex, not the horses and dogs. I thought I may not have been clear on that earlier, so I was just doing so now.<br><br>Thanks<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Good to know, oh and BTW, Victoria didn't turn him down, she were said, let's wait and see. Just because she's talking to Louis, doesn't mean she won't have time for Marcus- She's a sly one.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>24-09-2010, 18:43:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I've also got loads of idea pictures, but I need to get on my comp for them. I'll send them to you two later. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>24-09-2010, 18:58:48</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hey Christa, I think "the ones who like redheads" are all snoozing at the table! lol JK, they're just not on right now. I'm gonna wait a bit to post if that's ok, don't want to hijack the thread
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>24-09-2010, 19:27:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Maybe I should send Lolo over to kiss Christine to keep her quiet, lol
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>doom29169</strong> on <strong>24-09-2010, 19:34:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3677485#msg3677485">Quote from: lovelygirl11 on 24-09-2010, 18:36:14</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Good to know, oh and BTW, Victoria didn't turn him down, she were said, let's wait and see. Just because she's talking to Louis, doesn't mean she won't have time for Marcus- She's a sly one.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>One thing I dont do is compete. I hate competing with others for attention. Its one of the reasons I normally dont do multiplayer sex games. That said, it was Marcus' reaction. To him her saying "We'll see" and then inviting a footman to her bedchamber means "I dont wanna play." Its all IC.<br><br>*shruggs* Its just my personality, I hate competing for attention. If your looking for that, I am sure other players will provide it. :-)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>24-09-2010, 20:02:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3677708#msg3677708">Quote from: doom29169 on 24-09-2010, 19:34:30</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">One thing I dont do is compete. I hate competing with others for attention. Its one of the reasons I normally dont do multiplayer sex games. That said, it was Marcus' reaction. To him her saying "We'll see" and then inviting a footman to her bedchamber means "I dont wanna play." Its all IC.<br><br>*shruggs* Its just my personality, I hate competing for attention. If your looking for that, I am sure other players will provide it. :-)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Just know you just abused Alistair's slave, you might be in for a bit of trouble.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>doom29169</strong> on <strong>24-09-2010, 20:06:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yea well once someone told him...oh well. Maybe it will be ok. Maybe not. Really people, <em>name tags</em> Hello I am property of _______ . See? :P ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>24-09-2010, 20:16:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Haha. Well, it was kind of mentioned in the thread earlier, although Christine won't admit to belonging to anyone yet. *shrugs* And most slaves aren't "owned." Alistair's just a possessive bastard. *hugs EvilNerf* &lt;3
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>doom29169</strong> on <strong>24-09-2010, 20:18:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I actually asked when I arrived is there a packing order. I may have missed that in the responce. I appologize to the possessive bastard.&nbsp; XD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>evilnerf</strong> on <strong>25-09-2010, 02:56:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I heard a bit about the scuff earlier.&nbsp; I'd like to note for the OOC record, that anyone is welcome to mess with Christine.&nbsp; Of course, it should be obvious to anyone that Alistair would not be precisely forgiving.<br><br>While I suppose that Doom was not a big fan of competing for subs, I'd like to note that I <em>am</em> a fan of competing for subs.&nbsp; So OOCly, have at her!&nbsp; ICly though, be prepared for a fight if you make a claim on her.<br><br>That said, I think the ideal solution to this situation is to have alistair <em>remove</em> Marcus.&nbsp; I only regret that I wasn't able to react sooner.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>25-09-2010, 04:42:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Evilnerf, thank you for such a great IC post, made me chuckle. Hide that dagger well.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>25-09-2010, 15:59:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				damnit, i get called away for one day and I have no idea where we are in the dinner thread anymore... sigh, ill start reading.<br><br>and really, did we have someone else leave and delete their posts? ffs, that ruins the story and makes anyone reading it confused. If your going to leave write your character out to maintain continuity
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AngelsDemonsCode</strong> on <strong>25-09-2010, 16:24:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				They did do that, write them out of the roleplay I mean. But then they deleted all of their posts soon after for some reason. I think we'll be fine, since the other posts tell the reaction of what was going on well enough.<br><br>Well, I don't think it'll be too hard to catch up. Most of the posts are dialogue and only... I think two important events happened.<br><br>And from what I can tell: Marcus the horse master left after assaulting Christine and was stopped by Louis. Alistair did... <em>something</em> to Marcus after he left and Cyril calmed things down with his awesome violin playing and asked if anyone has any other requests. There was some mingling and talking and then Christine angered him. Now she's being offered to be used by anyone in the room now since she angered Alistair. Louis is rewarded of the chance to use Annalisa in front of everyone there and then in the room for stopping Marcus earlier. Lady Constance defied Alistair and plans to stay where he is and not follow him.<br><br>Oh, and the guests and family are going to have dessert on Charity, one of the slaves, after dinner. I really, really, <em>really</em> want that to happen soon. &gt;o&gt;
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>25-09-2010, 16:42:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That is one of the most annoying things that anyone can do in a game.&nbsp; I would ask everyone here, if you decide to leave, please dont delete your posts, it is actually rude and does spoil the game play.&nbsp; <br><br>Now Isen, if I were you have him there watching, mommy has been very naughty, she might need the boys to take her to task over that.&nbsp; Hopefully we can get things back on track.&nbsp; <br><br>MMMM, Angel, I might have to get constance to like some cream off that naughty Charity, just to see the other slaves reactions of course.. :):)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Isengrad</strong> on <strong>25-09-2010, 16:43:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				well, since I had gone so long without posting i ended up writing him out for a good chunk of what happened and brought him back in just now. I think you will like my post.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>25-09-2010, 16:45:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Its a very good post.&nbsp; I think Evie might come to him after dinner, apologising for her not being there to recieve her punishment.&nbsp; She could have a soft spot for Mr Valentine.&nbsp; And then there is mummy, who loves both her boys.. ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>25-09-2010, 16:49:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				As far as my characters go:<br><br>Christine is standing awkwardly in the middle of the room after being offered to everyone for use. So if someone wants to use her, she's there. <br><br>Lolita is kneeling by Victoria. <br><br>Bella is standing off to the side. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Cecilia</strong> on <strong>28-09-2010, 06:01:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=82817.msg3681341#msg3681341">Quote from: kaz on 25-09-2010, 16:42:14</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">That is one of the most annoying things that anyone can do in a game.&nbsp; I would ask everyone here, if you decide to leave, please dont delete your posts, it is actually rude and does spoil the game play.&nbsp; <br><br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Deleting a post here and there because it's crap is one thing (and editing is even better than deletion), but removing several posts from a game thread because you want to quit is not allowed.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;If you are running a game and someone does this, staff can re-instate the posts to your games to keep the storyline in tact.&nbsp; *This ends your public service announcement*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>28-09-2010, 10:02:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Thanks Cecilia, I didn't know that.&nbsp; :)<br><br><br>OK guys and gals, lets call dinner over, it was a bit of a fiasco really, no one seemed hungry.&nbsp; Not for food anyway.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>28-09-2010, 10:14:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="bbc_size">ROLL CALL</span><br><br>Please let me know who's still here.&nbsp; I will get Rog into play today, so I need to know who is here.&nbsp; <br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AngelsDemonsCode</strong> on <strong>28-09-2010, 12:02:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm still here!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>28-09-2010, 13:15:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm here, and if it pleases the Lady of the house, may I make a white bedroom thread?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>28-09-2010, 16:42:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Already put it up for you hun.&nbsp; Feel free to do what you liek there :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>28-09-2010, 17:22:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ok I'm dense, lol, thanks Kaz
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AngelsDemonsCode</strong> on <strong>28-09-2010, 17:58:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				May I have the Lady Kaz's permission to go to the The White Bedroom thread as Louis, please?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>28-09-2010, 18:03:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sweetie, you can just come in, the thread is up, you may come and play with Victoria
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AngelsDemonsCode</strong> on <strong>28-09-2010, 18:23:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Alright.&nbsp; :D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>28-09-2010, 19:05:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hey all, <br><br>Just to let you know I'm taking a step back here.&nbsp; I'm just not enjoying it.&nbsp; I am glad everyone is having fun, but for me its not.&nbsp; If anyone wants to write let me know, but you all seem to be quite well entertained.&nbsp; <br><br>Enjoy, I'll still be around, but just not as active as I tried to be.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Teridas</strong> on <strong>28-09-2010, 19:20:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry to hear that kaz is there anything in particular that we can do to make it more enjoyable for you?<br><br>Ps if anyone saw my short post before it's been fixed I hate posting from my iPod sometimes
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>28-09-2010, 19:30:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				No not really I dont want to be accused of moaning.&nbsp; I just dont feel theres a place for me anymore. :(
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AngelsDemonsCode</strong> on <strong>28-09-2010, 19:44:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Of course there's a place for you Kaz! You're the creator of this great idea in the first place. Please, tell us how we can make you feel more welcomed here, we don't want to drive you off from here.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Teridas</strong> on <strong>28-09-2010, 20:08:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				What she said *hugs*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>29-09-2010, 15:03:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Is this game now dissolved?&nbsp; Just checking since everyone stopped posting. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AngelsDemonsCode</strong> on <strong>29-09-2010, 15:21:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm still here. Just writing my reply to you right now.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>29-09-2010, 15:23:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah I know, but it looks like we're the only ones, lol
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>AngelsDemonsCode</strong> on <strong>29-09-2010, 15:35:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I roleplayed with Teridas this morning and saw Tackyhillybilly and Christa roleplay today as well. I'm not sure about the others though, to be honest.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>29-09-2010, 15:39:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh ok
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Teridas</strong> on <strong>29-09-2010, 18:19:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm still around&nbsp; ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Clio</strong> on <strong>29-09-2010, 19:40:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm still around. This game won't die!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Sashira</strong> on <strong>30-09-2010, 00:43:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Ladies and gentlemen,<br><br>I'm also leaving the game. I find discipline to be relaxing, and some of the chaos became distressing to me. I'm leaving all of my posts up, and Charity/Flo may remain in the game as an NPC (or can be taken over if someone wants to.) Good luck going forward and I look forward to roleplaying with you in the future, perhaps in a different setting with different expectations.<br><br>"Countess Victoria", flirting with you was lovely. :-)<br><br>- Sashira
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Teridas</strong> on <strong>30-09-2010, 00:53:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry to see you leave I'm sure I'll run into you somewhere down the road.<br><br>Long days and pleasant nights to you 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>lovelygirl</strong> on <strong>30-09-2010, 01:35:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh sorry to see you go, I know that we will meet again and play in the future. It was enjoyable flirting with you as well dear Charity.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Victorian Household - OOC </strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>kaz</strong> on <strong>01-10-2010, 15:59:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Excuse me, IF you have a problem please PM the person involved.&nbsp; I do not know what you are talking about.&nbsp; If someone is pestering YOU then PM them about, dont put it all over the OOC.<br><br>If you continue to do this I will let someone in power know.&nbsp; I saw your other message that disappeared.&nbsp; Now leave the game alone, or I WILL take this further.&nbsp; IF&nbsp; SOMEONE IS BOTHERING YOU take it to PM.<br><br>I am going to be redoing thsi game so I am locking this topic.
			</dd>
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