The Fortress :: OOC Discussion
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				Title: <strong>The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>30-12-2009, 21:36:46</strong>
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				<div align="center"> <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="bbc_size"> <strong> This thread is for discussion of the "THE FORTRESS" - layout, tech, plot background, Q&amp;A, Limits, etc.<br>OOC chatter regarding specific role-play activities &amp; plot should be done from The Fortress :: OOC Plot Chatter </strong> </span> </div> <br><br><em> <strong> If you are interested in participating, you can read the original "request" post, this thread, and the WIKI.&nbsp; New characters and participants are welcome at any time.&nbsp; Please PM either Zorak or auroraChloe if you wish to join! </strong> </em><br><br><br><hr><br><div align="center"><strong> IMPORTANT LINKS </strong><br><br>&nbsp;Original RP Request &amp; Discussion Thread (Closed) &nbsp;(http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56173.0)<br><br>&nbsp;Character Information Sheets &nbsp;(http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56752.0)<br><br>&nbsp;The Fortress - Consolidated WIKI &nbsp;(http://elliquiy.com/wiki/THE_FORTRESS)<br><br><strong> <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="bbc_size"> &nbsp;MAIN ROLE-PLAY THREAD (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=57638.0) &nbsp;</span> </strong></div>
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Calista Jade</strong> on <strong>30-12-2009, 22:48:48</strong>
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				Reporting in.<br><br>I was thinking of someone guilty of a righteous kill... but even that isnt enough to get off the hook, now is there. I'm still working on her personality/looking for a pic, will post her bio soon!
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>30-12-2009, 23:57:58</strong>
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				I'm working on the setting and some other details.&nbsp; Please consider the following :<br><br><br><strong>Location of the facility</strong><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I had several thoughts - underwater, in the desert, inside a mountain...&nbsp; <br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; wherever it is, it needs to be somewhere isolated.<br><br><strong>Look &amp; Feel</strong><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Is it a concrete structure?&nbsp; Futuristic composite?&nbsp; Are the cell bars metal or force fields or <br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; something else?&nbsp; Are the cell blocks dim and damp, or brightly lit and sterile?<br><br><strong>Prisoner Control</strong><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; What keeps them from escaping or causing problems?&nbsp; Handcuffs and lots of NPC guards?<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; automated weapons?&nbsp; implants?<br><br><br>I have thoughts on all of this stuff, but I really want to hear what all of you think.&nbsp; Post ideas <br>in this thread please.&nbsp; If you have ideas that don't fit into the topics above, post 'em anyway!!
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>RubySlippers</strong> on <strong>31-12-2009, 00:29:59</strong>
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				Concrete shithole like the movie located lets say in a hot steamy island somewhere or someplace really really cold like far North in Alaska. I would love implants for control like the movie but the good resercher can be working on different versions plus normal controls and good behaviour rewards. Remember wardens need to get control.
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>31-12-2009, 18:00:27</strong>
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				Check the first post in this thread - Updated to include some setting &amp; background information.<br><br>Please... this is STILL flexible - Give your feedback and ideas.<br><br>ALSO - <strong>We need to recruit STAFF and perhaps, some male prisoners.</strong>&nbsp; If you know anyone interested, please direct them here :)
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>RedEve</strong> on <strong>03-01-2010, 20:05:08</strong>
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				*raised hand* I wouldn't mind playing a prisoner. As long as I can attract the attention of a few perverted guards... :)
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>04-01-2010, 05:25:43</strong>
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				Right now, we've got 1 staff member, a warden, and prisoners...&nbsp; I think we need some more guard types to make this work (not that we're turning down ANYONE, just shouting out for dominants!)
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>04-01-2010, 18:11:43</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2604736#msg2604736">Quote from: Zorak on 04-01-2010, 05:25:43</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Right now, we've got 1 staff member, a warden, and prisoners...&nbsp; I think we need some more guard types to make this work (not that we're turning down ANYONE, just shouting out for dominants!)&nbsp; </blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>i have my character sheet near done.&nbsp; i wanted to watch the movie first (yes, i know it is not an exact setting for our game)&nbsp; netflix got slowed up with the holiday mail.&nbsp; <br><br>i've added a 'wanted' link to my signature.&nbsp; hope that draws in some pervs.. errr. Dominants.&nbsp; 
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>05-01-2010, 16:34:36</strong>
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				Quote from: Lyrus on <strong>Today</strong> at 07:32:58 AM (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56173.msg2609098#msg2609098)<blockquote>I merely don't know how it would work, but if you showed me how 'tis done, then I shall think on hopping in, yes. <br></blockquote><br><br><br>Well...I kind of see activity broken into sections.&nbsp; It might be hard tofollow at first, but I think with practice, we can work out the kinks. I would expect a main topic, with some sub-threads.&nbsp; Prisoners wouldinteract with eachother (as they would be kept in the same cell). Guards might "arrive" to interact with them, or researchers might haveone or more pulled out.&nbsp; Activity that takes place "in private" wouldbe in another subthread that have a beginning &amp; an end.&nbsp; I couldalso see some interaction between the warden and other staff (perhaps,some backstabbing as well).<br><br>The trick will be maintaining thesubplots, and doing our best to 1) keep track of where people are (thatwill be tracked in the OOC thread) and 2: keep track of timing. Prisoners will need to get used to having their conversations"interrupted", as they would be in real life - they may startsomething, and have it blocked or negated when a guard arrives.<br><br>Whichbrings up a good topic that I'll address in the OOC group also - peopleneed to accept that they'll be coming in and out of the RP, just asthey would in a real situation.&nbsp; Not everyone's a part of everything.&nbsp; <br><br>If we can get past that, then I think we'll be good :)<br><br>Perhaps, a "location based thread" where you move your character from place to place?
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>05-01-2010, 16:51:25</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2609379#msg2609379">Quote from: Zorak on 05-01-2010, 16:34:36</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Quote from: Lyrus on <strong>Today</strong> at 07:32:58 AM (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56173.msg2609098#msg2609098)<blockquote>I merely don't know how it would work, but if you showed me how 'tis done, then I shall think on hopping in, yes. <br></blockquote><br><br><br>Well...I kind of see activity broken into sections.&nbsp; It might be hard tofollow at first, but I think with practice, we can work out the kinks. I would expect a main topic, with some sub-threads.&nbsp; <br><br>The trick will be maintaining the subplots, and doing our best to 1) keep track of where people are (thatwill be tracked in the OOC thread) and 2: keep track of timing. Prisoners will need to get used to having their conversations"interrupted", as they would be in real life - they may startsomething, and have it blocked or negated when a guard arrives.<br>&nbsp;</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>i've been in and seen other group games where the location is listed right at the beginning of a characters post in bold colors...&nbsp; at least until the game is in the real swing of things and separate threads get made for 'areas'&nbsp; 
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>05-01-2010, 16:55:56</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2609422#msg2609422">Quote from: auroraChloe on 05-01-2010, 16:51:25</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">i've been in and seen other group games where the location is listed right at the beginning of a characters post in bold colors...&nbsp; at least until the game is in the real swing of things and separate threads get made for 'areas' <br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>That's a good suggestion.&nbsp; I'll insert a "posting guidelines" section in the main topic here (message #1).&nbsp; I'll ask everyone to read that, and give me your thoughts and ideas for improvement!
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>RubySlippers</strong> on <strong>06-01-2010, 02:07:02</strong>
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				And yes the WARDEN will induct each girl personally I have to do the full cavity body search thing or its not a prison game well at least the women, the doctor on staff then will give you a physical examination. And implant the experimental pain devices.<br><br>I have a merits system in the works so you can gain merits being good and gain more priveleges and it won't be hard to lose them either. I will post it when done after the Moderator approves.
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Pockets</strong> on <strong>06-01-2010, 02:23:39</strong>
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				I'm game for playing a dominant male guard. And maybe a dominant male prisoner too. It depends on the context though. I'll start with a guard first though.
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Combicon</strong> on <strong>06-01-2010, 02:27:16</strong>
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				I'd gladly be a part of this, although my postings may be a little delayed on Wednesdays to Sundays (perahps thursdays to sundays), although I should be able to get some posts in, until I get my computer, then I should be able to post much more frequently. <br><br>I'd happily be one of the doctors at the place, if that possition hasn't been taken as of yet, and am happy to put pretty much anything in anyone. ;D<br><br>Ideasideasideas though...I'll be sure to try and think of some. xD Unfortunatly, my mind has gone blank at the moment. D;
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>06-01-2010, 02:31:50</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2591712#msg2591712">Quote from: Zorak on 30-12-2009, 21:36:46</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"> <br><strong>MY CHARACTER'S ROLE, MY CHARACTER'S NAME</strong><br><strong>MY CHARACTER'S CURRENT LOCATION</strong><br><br><br><br>The heading should be in BOLDFACE, and the character's name can befirst-name only.&nbsp; As we begin, location names will start "happening" as people invent additional locations (eg, Raul's quarters, Cell AA23, SolitaryConfinement, Morgue etc.)&nbsp; Once a location name is used, try to use the same lingo (eg, if you're taken to "Raul's quarters", don't post from"Raul's bedroom").&nbsp; So, by way of example:<br><br><strong> GUARD, HELGA </strong><br><strong> OUTSIDE CELL AC-14 </strong><br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>that should keep things clear, Z<br><br>and welcome aboard Combilicious!&nbsp; looking foward to seeing your character sheet.&nbsp; &nbsp;;D<br><br>oh and Pockets !&nbsp; i'm anxious to see your fella too&nbsp; &nbsp;8-)
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Misery</strong> on <strong>06-01-2010, 02:41:44</strong>
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				I had pm'd Zorak earlier, I should have a character sheet posted tonight.
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>06-01-2010, 04:55:09</strong>
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				Welcome everyone who joined-up in the last few days!<br><br>With the level of response, and variety of the roles, I think we might just be able to fire this off later in the week (I was thinking Thursday 7th).&nbsp; With that in mind, I'd like everyone to review again, the first posting in this thread, and give me ideas/builds/thoughts/etc... that way we can work new ideas in before RP starts!<br><br>Love the new characters too!
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>06-01-2010, 15:35:06</strong>
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				As we move into the start of RP tomorrow, here's the list of participants so far.&nbsp; Remember, because of how this will work, we can take new people at almost any time, so don't be afraid to chime in if you haven't already!&nbsp; Please continue to feed me ideas, either by post, or PM :)<br><br>----------<br><br><strong>FORTRESS STAFF</strong><br><br>&nbsp;Marissa Taylor - Warden - {RubySlippers}<br>Carl Dodd - Researcher - {Zorak}<br>&nbsp;Rachel Sam Bliqué - Doctor - {Combicon}<br>Aleks Popov - Guard {Misery}<br><strong>PRISONERS<br><br>Kate Bartlett - {Katy1008}<br>Amelia Lightfoot - {Senti}<br>Theresa (Terri) Amderson {Chaos}<br>&nbsp;Ella Thompson {auroraChloe}<br><br>{This message is cross-posted to the original discussion thread, which will be closed after tomorrows RP start }</strong>
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Calista Jade</strong> on <strong>06-01-2010, 19:50:13</strong>
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				I havent sent my sheet yet due to being sick, but does it mean that I'm out..?
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>06-01-2010, 19:52:14</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2613045#msg2613045">Quote from: Calista Jade on 06-01-2010, 19:50:13</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I havent sent my sheet yet due to being sick, but does it mean that I'm out..?&nbsp; </blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>i don't believe so, Calista Jade.&nbsp; if you're still ill, maybe you can come in later<br><br>it's prison so there are new people coming in all the time.&nbsp; 
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dashenka</strong> on <strong>06-01-2010, 20:11:22</strong>
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				Right I want to be in this game no matter what :D<br><br>there is three prisoners, a warden and scientist right?<br><br>I think I want to play the (little corrupted) guard... if that's okay with you all. 
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>06-01-2010, 20:11:40</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2613045#msg2613045">Quote from: Calista Jade on 06-01-2010, 19:50:13</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I havent sent my sheet yet due to being sick, but does it mean that I'm out..?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Of course not !!!&nbsp; I'm hoping that the community will continue to grow after it starts :)<br><br>Myself and auroraChloe will serve as guides for new people, and help them find the right point to come in.
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>06-01-2010, 20:13:23</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2613090#msg2613090">Quote from: Dashenka on 06-01-2010, 20:11:22</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Right I want to be in this game no matter what :D <br><br>there is three prisoners, a warden and scientist right?<br><br>I think I want to play the (little corrupted) guard... if that's okay with you all.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>At the moment, we're 4 &amp; 4 last I checked (4 prisonners, and Warden, scientist, doctor, guard).&nbsp; There can be more than one of anything, except the warden, so the door's wide open for you!
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>06-01-2010, 20:17:33</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2592135#msg2592135">Quote from: RubySlippers on 31-12-2009, 00:29:59</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Concrete shithole like the movie located lets say in a hot steamy island somewhere or someplace really really cold like far North in Alaska.&nbsp; &nbsp; </blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>i'd prefer a warmer climate..&nbsp; &nbsp;<br><br>also, if its a medical place i see it as being very antiseptic and austere.&nbsp; not too much soft but for the flesh found there.&nbsp; <br><br><br>
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>06-01-2010, 20:28:02</strong>
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				I've been asked a few questions in PMs and thought perhaps, I might just toss out a few thoughts.&nbsp; Sometimes, people don't think of certain possibilities, and other times, just assume something's not possible, or are hesitant to ask.<br><br>1) The characters themselves may come and go.&nbsp; It's possible that someone won't be able to participate for a while.&nbsp; It's quite OK for that person to "go on vacation".&nbsp; For prisoners, you could be transferred to solitary for a month.&nbsp; Please try to think in those terms when you consider your own absences, and let's use the OOC thread, or PMs to other players to help guide the thread.&nbsp; Remember, it's not just about playing your part, but it should be fun for all of us to read and watch your interactions too!<br><br>2) We're trying to simulate a possible reality.&nbsp; That means, that if you start as one role, it's possible to actually change roles.&nbsp; A guard could get promoted, or a scientist demoted.&nbsp; A prisoner could become privileged (maybe for snitching etc.).&nbsp; Even a scientist or guard could end up a prisoner for various reasons.&nbsp; Think about possibilities and let the role-play inspire you!<br><br>3) Just like #1 above, we can have new people coming in at any time.&nbsp; New "hires", or new "acquisitions".&nbsp; As your hosts, auroraChloe and I will help those people come in.<br><br>4) You can think outside the box when you create your character...&nbsp; For example, my role as a scientist also includes my relationship to the company.&nbsp; What about other possibilities?&nbsp; A scientist working against their will because the company is blackmailing them?&nbsp; How would THEY feel about doing cruel things to inmates?&nbsp; Maybe, as a prisoner, you're not exactly a pushover - but find your own little way to torment your cell-mates?&nbsp; What if you're a guard secretly in love with a prisoner?&nbsp; &nbsp;The possibilities are endless, and if you're not sure, just post the thought here, and get some feedback!<br><br>Don't be afraid to ask questions here, offer suggestions about plot &amp; setting, or to PM either auroraChloe or myself&nbsp; :D <br>
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>06-01-2010, 20:32:32</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2613109#msg2613109">Quote from: auroraChloe on 06-01-2010, 20:17:33</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">i'd prefer a warmer climate..&nbsp; &nbsp;<br><br>also, if its a medical place i see it as being very antiseptic and austere.&nbsp; not too much soft but for the flesh found there. <br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Well... I think it's doubtful you'll ever be allowed outside, regardless the climate :)<br><br>I sort of agree that the cell blocks shouldn't be too dirty or grungy - since it's a controlled environment, cleanliness could be "enforced" :)&nbsp; I wish I could find a good picture of a cell environment... I'm still looking - if anyone finds something they like, post or PM me.
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dashenka</strong> on <strong>06-01-2010, 20:46:14</strong>
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				How about this....<br><br>My girl starts out as guard.... mid twenties, young, pretty etc.... but she makes a mistake... in or outside the prison and she ends up on the other side of the door?
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>06-01-2010, 21:30:51</strong>
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				Anything can happen :)
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dashenka</strong> on <strong>06-01-2010, 23:23:20</strong>
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				Right Ill get a profile up asap then :)
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Katy1008</strong> on <strong>07-01-2010, 00:17:51</strong>
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				Just for info - pretty much all of the movie is available on YouTube (split into about seven parts). <br><br>K
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				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>07-01-2010, 00:28:10</strong>
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				that is friggen sweet!&nbsp; thanks for the info, Katy&nbsp; &nbsp;
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>07-01-2010, 17:05:22</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				I've just updated the first message in this thread - starting to add images to help get a "setting" idea for our Fortress.&nbsp; If you'd like to submit a picture for a particular location that might be "yours" (eg, your lab, your quarters, or any other location you create in the RP) please send me the link in a PM, and I'll include it.<br><br>Start of RP will be Monday, Jan 11, to allow a few more people time to get their character sheets ready.<br><br><strong>ALSO - IMPORTANT</strong><br><br>Does anyone have an issue with committing to making a roleplay post within 1-2 days when appropriate (that is, you're actively involved in a dialogue or exchange with others)?&nbsp; And by "committing" I mean "doing one's best based on real life circumstances that we can never truly control".&nbsp; Thoughts?
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dashenka</strong> on <strong>07-01-2010, 17:28:26</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				I like the prison from Tombraider 2. The one where Lara goes to get her male partner? In the snow and all... that setting would be nice...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>07-01-2010, 17:31:11</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2615564#msg2615564">Quote from: Zorak on 07-01-2010, 17:05:22</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I've just updated the first message in this thread -&nbsp; &nbsp; ....&nbsp; &nbsp; or any other location you create in the RP) please send me the link in a PM, and I'll include it.<br><br>Start of RP will be Monday, Jan 11, to allow a few more people time to get their character sheets ready.<br><br><strong>ALSO - IMPORTANT</strong><br><br>Does anyone have an issue with committing to making a roleplay post within 1-2 days when appropriate (that is, you're actively involved in a dialogue or exchange with others)?&nbsp; And by "committing" I mean "doing one's best based on real life circumstances that we can never truly control".&nbsp; Thoughts?&nbsp; &nbsp;</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br><br>love the cell block image...&nbsp; what kind of space are we talking about?&nbsp; 9'X9' ??&nbsp; bigger ?&nbsp; are they shared?&nbsp; single cells will allow for guards, et al to abuse their power (if you get my drift)<br><br>and how much freedom will prisoners have in decorating ??&nbsp; you want me going all martha stewart on you or what?&nbsp; &nbsp;:P<br><br>i don't have a problem with that kind of commitment to post.&nbsp; <br><br><br>oh.. and i would like to say something about the sex stuff.&nbsp; too much too soon and the game dies (from my limited experience with group games)&nbsp; so if the players wouldn't mind keeping the heavy sex scenes to a minimum for the initial couple of weeks, so we can build up our characters and set up the drama portion of the project.&nbsp; just my two cents.&nbsp; <br><br><br>Dashenka -&nbsp; i don't know that game.&nbsp; do you have a link to an image?&nbsp; &nbsp;<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>07-01-2010, 17:38:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2615610#msg2615610">Quote from: Dashenka on 07-01-2010, 17:28:26</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I like the prison from Tombraider 2. The one where Lara goes to get her male partner? In the snow and all... that setting would be nice...<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Couldn't stomach seeing those films...&nbsp; I kinda have a thing against movies based on video games - just seems wrong to me :)<br><br>I'd considered something like&nbsp; Rura Penthe, which then put the idea in my head to located it under an ice-shelf (kind of a double-nasty cold-wet and escape-proof environment).<br><br>Would it be worthwhile having a little poll/vote on location, or is everyone happy with the stuff I've put in message-1 (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.0)?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dashenka</strong> on <strong>07-01-2010, 17:44:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well obviously I prefer an cold and rugged setting, as in real life I get a headache when temperatures get over 25 celcius (77 Fahrenheit) so imagining playing a guard in a sweltering hot prison cell is going to be a nice challenge.<br><br>Anyway if we are located under an ice shelf, where do we live? In the facility itself?
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>07-01-2010, 17:48:19</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2615641#msg2615641">Quote from: Dashenka on 07-01-2010, 17:44:53</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Well obviously I prefer an cold and rugged setting, as in real life I get a headache when temperatures get over 25 celcius (77 Fahrenheit) so imagining playing a guard in a sweltering hot prison cell is going to be a nice challenge.<br><br>Anyway if we are located under an ice shelf, where do we live? In the facility itself?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br><br>it seems like we won't be getting any exercise time in the 'yard'&nbsp; &nbsp;heh.&nbsp; <br>if the facility is self contained 'under ground' then the temps will be regulated along with air quality etc.&nbsp; i suppose that opens up the possibility of a maintenance person.&nbsp; <br><br>and it sounds like it is a live in situation.&nbsp; wonder if the employees will have dorms or private rooms ?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>07-01-2010, 17:56:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2615618#msg2615618">Quote from: auroraChloe on 07-01-2010, 17:31:11</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"><br>love the cell block image...&nbsp; what kind of space are we talking about?&nbsp; 9'X9' ??&nbsp; bigger ?&nbsp; are they shared?&nbsp; single cells will allow for guards, et al to abuse their power (if you get my drift)<br><br>and how much freedom will prisoners have in decorating ??&nbsp; you want me going all martha stewart on you or what?&nbsp; &nbsp;:P <br><br>i don't have a problem with that kind of commitment to post.&nbsp; <br><br><br>oh.. and i would like to say something about the sex stuff.&nbsp; too much too soon and the game dies (from my limited experience with group games)&nbsp; so if the players wouldn't mind keeping the heavy sex scenes to a minimum for the initial couple of weeks, so we can build up our characters and set up the drama portion of the project.&nbsp; just my two cents.&nbsp; <br><br><br>Dashenka -&nbsp; i don't know that game.&nbsp; do you have a link to an image? <br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>The images are courtesy of Katy1008, she sent me a whole bunch of links that included a number of operating rooms, and images of cell blocks - Thanks for the time and effort in pulling those up!<br><br>As for the number of prisoners/cell, I'd originally assumed about 3-4, which gives the prisoners the ability to interact with each other.&nbsp; But I can see the benefits of single cells too - maybe that's a case temporary solitary confinement?&nbsp; If anyone has an opinion on it, please sound off - I'd go with the majority's desire on that one.<br><br>As for decorating - I think due to the fact that the environment is very controlled and the prisoners are completely isolated, any decoration would have to come from someone inside the facility... maybe a prisoner might get "rewarded" with a picture, or something (which could also piss off another prisoner, who knows)...&nbsp; But going in, I think we're best keeping it very sterile - JMHO, and subject to others telling me I'm dead wrong, in which case, I will gladly bow to the majority opinion :)<br><br>I'll be starting the RP with a post that will basically "intake" our new prisoners as a group - each person could (if they wish) "respond" with their reaction to the activities I'll be posting.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2615618#msg2615618">Quote from: auroraChloe on 07-01-2010, 17:31:11</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">it seems like we won't be getting any exercise time in the 'yard'&nbsp; &nbsp;heh.&nbsp; <br>if the facility is self contained 'under ground' then the temps will be regulated along with air quality etc.&nbsp; i suppose that opens up thepossibility of a maintenance person.&nbsp; <br><br>and it sounds like it is a live in situation.&nbsp; wonder if the employees will have dorms or private rooms ?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>A VERY good point about a maintenance person - that could be really interesting, as such a person could find themselves abused or respected from BOTH sides (prisoners AND staff).&nbsp; It also opens up the "hostage" scenarios, since a maintenance person surely wouldn't have any implant control, and guards would have to be "nearby" to use theirs...&nbsp; Hmmm...&nbsp; Maybe all implant functions should be close-range to allow for that...<br><br>I'd imagined employees having their own spaces.&nbsp; Guards maybe doubled-up, but I'll leave that to the guards to decide on their own :)<br><br>Maybe there should be an exercise area? <br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>07-01-2010, 18:01:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2615667#msg2615667">Quote from: Zorak on 07-01-2010, 17:56:26</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"> Maybe there should be an exercise area?&nbsp; &nbsp;</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br><br>definitely..&nbsp; a gym, maybe a pool even.&nbsp; for the employees at least.<br><br>and these <del>guinnea pigs </del> prisoners will have to kept in good health for accuracte data collection (i'd think) so some place for them as well to get some exercise. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>07-01-2010, 18:04:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2615686#msg2615686">Quote from: auroraChloe on 07-01-2010, 18:01:44</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"><br>definitely..&nbsp; a gym, maybe a pool even.&nbsp; for the employees at least.<br><br>and these <del>guinnea pigs </del> prisoners will have to kept in good health for accuracte data collection (i'd think) so some place for them as well to get some exercise.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Hmmm... a gym for the inmates, and maybe (if they get someone's personal attention) rewarded with an occasional trip to employee-only areas like a pool, sauna, hot tub, etc? 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dashenka</strong> on <strong>07-01-2010, 18:12:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well how about this:<br><br><br>The guards will each have a small/medium private quarter. There is a kitchen in the facility which is staffed only during the day on the level where the prisoners are not coming, a small relax area with television and computers for the guards and maybe a 'public' exercise area where the guards can work out <del>on</del> with the prisoners.<br><br>The maintenance can come with the supplies? I mean the hostage thing sounds nice but a facility like this one would need more than just maintenance. As I said it would also need a kitchen and maybe even some security from the outside. (Or do the guards take up this task as well?)<br><br><br>As I haven't seen the movie (yet), how public or secret is this whole facility? 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Katy1008</strong> on <strong>07-01-2010, 18:14:57</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				I was certainly imagining individual cells, pretty stark (white/sterile) but that doesn't necessarily mean that there can't be communication between the prisoners. <br><br>Is the idea that we would be locked up 24/7 unless with were receiving attention from a guard/researcher/the warden or providing services to the male prisoners? If not, perhaps nothing to say that the actual cells on a particular corridor cannot be open during 'the day', with security systems in place at the end of each corridor?<br><br>I'll have a look and see if I can find any 'futuristic' gym/exercise areas which might be appropriate for the prisoners and/or employees. I came across quite a few images that might be suitable for staff quarters but I guess people will probably want to pick their own.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>07-01-2010, 18:28:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2615708#msg2615708">Quote from: Dashenka on 07-01-2010, 18:12:11</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">The guards will each have a small/medium private quarter. There is a kitchen in the facility which is staffed only during the day on the level where the prisoners are not coming, a small relax area with television and computers for the guards and maybe a 'public' exercise area where the guards can work out <del>on</del> with the prisoners.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Works great for me :)&nbsp; &nbsp;I'd like the different "groups" to kind of have "ownership" of the settings that most effect them, that way everyone's involved and we get a good environment that everyone likes!<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2615708#msg2615708">Quote from: Dashenka on 07-01-2010, 18:12:11</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">The maintenance can come with the supplies? I mean the hostage thing sounds nice but a facility like this one would need more than just maintenance. As I said it would also need a kitchen and maybe even some security from the outside. (Or do the guards take up this task as well?)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Right now, outside security wouldn't be necessary, since you'd pretty much die if you went outside :)&nbsp; I'd imagine some kind of "unspecified" protection would be there to prevent anyone from getting too close without proper clearance...<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2615708#msg2615708">Quote from: Dashenka on 07-01-2010, 18:12:11</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">As I haven't seen the movie (yet), how public or secret is this whole facility?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>The government and general population knows about the existence of corporate prisons.&nbsp; Where they are, and what goes on inside though - that's kept on the hush-hush.&nbsp; Even the government isn't aware of everything that goes on, and it maintains a 3-monkey approach with respect to them...<br>
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Katy1008</strong> on <strong>07-01-2010, 18:41:20</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Obviously - nothing more than suggestions. Feel free to find alternatives.<br><br>Staff Kitchen:<br>http://www.kitcheni.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/1-kitchens-futuristic.jpg (http://www.kitcheni.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/1-kitchens-futuristic.jpg)<br><br>Staff Communication Room (Computer Lab)<br>http://www.momoy.info/uploads/interior-design/Februari-2009/futuristic-media-center-01.jpg (http://www.momoy.info/uploads/interior-design/Februari-2009/futuristic-media-center-01.jpg)<br><br>Staff Lounge<br>http://hotelkini.com/site/images/stories/mffancyzoom/karaoke.jpg (http://hotelkini.com/site/images/stories/mffancyzoom/karaoke.jpg)<br><br>Staff Pool<br>http://www.exclusive-hotel.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/wyndham-chelsea-health-club.JPG (http://www.exclusive-hotel.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/wyndham-chelsea-health-club.JPG)<br><br>Staff Gym (Not sure really how big this should be, so I've tended to err on the small side)<br>http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/14/0d/3f/hotel-gym.jpg (http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/14/0d/3f/hotel-gym.jpg)<br><br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>07-01-2010, 18:44:49</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Those look nice - I'll post those up top unless someone else comes up with alternates.&nbsp; I got a 403-Forbidden on the 2nd link though...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>07-01-2010, 18:49:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2615765#msg2615765">Quote from: Katy1008 on 07-01-2010, 18:41:20</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Obviously - nothing more than suggestions. Feel free to find alternatives.<br><br>Staff Kitchen:<br>Staff Lounge&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; karaoke.jpg<br><br>Staff Gym (Not sure really how big this should be, so I've tended to err on the small side)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>now i'm wondering if inmates will have 'jobs' like in real prison.&nbsp; working in the kitchen or laundry when they aren't being poked, prodded and experimented upond.<br><br>*giggles at the karaoke lounge*&nbsp; though it is a sweet relaxation area by the looks.<br><br>i think a small gym will work for prisoners, but we could have a bigger gym for employees, especially if the facility is live in and these people are 'health conscious'.&nbsp; even an indoor track suspened over the pool area would be neat.&nbsp; 
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>07-01-2010, 18:58:13</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Well... just 'cause you're a scientist and working for a pharm company conducting experiments on people, that doesn't necessarily imply you're "health conscious"... I could see some interesting things going on with a particularly portly, poorly groomed guard/repairman/worker/scientist/etc and an unwilling but maybe desperate prisoner...<br><br>The more you think about it, the more plot avenues open up...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>07-01-2010, 19:00:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2615802#msg2615802">Quote from: Zorak on 07-01-2010, 18:58:13</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Well... just 'cause you're a scientist and working for a pharm company conducting experiments on people, that doesn't necessarily imply you're "health conscious"... I could see some interesting things going on with a particularly portly, poorly groomed guard/repairman/worker/scientist/etc and an unwilling but maybe desperate prisoner...<br><br>The more you think about it, the more plot avenues open up...<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>true enough, but i was assuming the corporation would have their own sort of requirements on it.&nbsp; *shrugs*<br><br>obviously i shouldn't assume&nbsp; &nbsp;;)<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>07-01-2010, 19:20:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2615806#msg2615806">Quote from: auroraChloe on 07-01-2010, 19:00:36</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">true enough, but i was assuming the corporation would have their own sort of requirements on it.&nbsp; *shrugs*<br><br>obviously i shouldn't assume&nbsp; &nbsp;;) <br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Well... I guess that's the point of all this OOC chatter no?&nbsp; I certainly don't want to be the "iron fisted GM", here, my goal is only to have fun and that others enjoy it too.&nbsp; I've come up with some settings and such because, I suppose, it was my idea and therefore, I guess I have a certain responsibility to it :)<br><br>But I'm all for making adjustments, so if everyone wants this to be a "health conscious" environment, I'm certainly happy to embrace that.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dashenka</strong> on <strong>07-01-2010, 19:49:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Not sure if I was clear on my point about the Gym and Pool.... both rooms will have to be shared with the prisoners and the guards... so maybe a roster or something could be made when the guards have their time and when the prisoners will have their time (under surveillance of the guards ofc)
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Katy1008</strong> on <strong>07-01-2010, 19:56:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<br>Not sure all the prisoners will be particularly health conscious enough to think about gym/pool. Im guessing we're also going to be on pretty basic rations rather than fresh greens lol.<br><br>There may of course be 'scientific' reasons for making sure that the prisoners stay 'reasonably fit' but I think for the most part the guards should get access to a lot of things that the prisoners don't. I know Im obviously not taking into account the poking and prodding, but would it be a little too comfortable for the prisoners if they were sharing facilities - unless of course this is done as part of the reward scheme.<br><br>Re the broken link (Communication Room) - not sure why it wont work but if you cut and paste the link, it seems to let you see the picture.<br><br>K
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>07-01-2010, 20:05:10</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				why do the rooms have to be shared ?&nbsp; just wondering.<br>i don't think prisoners should have access to the pool period.&nbsp; that's pretty cushy if so.&nbsp; <br>it was mentioned as a plot point that the pool could be used as a reward for something, even then they would have to be snuck in.<br><br>and if prisoners are not health conscious is fine, real prisons give inmates an hour a day or week or some such thing in 'the yard'. how they use that time is up to them.&nbsp; <br><br>personally i am not interested in having areas set up purposely to make sure there is all sorts of screwing going on.&nbsp; sex should be part of the drama/plot not the basis of the game.&nbsp; <br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dashenka</strong> on <strong>07-01-2010, 20:07:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I didn't mean sex :)<br><br>But my character would like to have her own private quarter... don't care how the cells are set up... solo or grouped although I would say for the sake of the game to make the cells at least open so they inmates can communicate...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>07-01-2010, 20:29:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2615929#msg2615929">Quote from: Dashenka on 07-01-2010, 19:49:20</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Not sure if I was clear on my point about the Gym and Pool.... both rooms will have to be shared with the prisoners and the guards... so maybe a roster or something could be made when the guards have their time and when the prisoners will have their time (under surveillance of the guards ofc)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Just a thought... but why should the prisoners have nice facilities?&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Katy1008</strong> on <strong>07-01-2010, 20:36:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2616038#msg2616038">Quote from: Zorak on 07-01-2010, 20:29:44</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Just a thought... but why should the prisoners have nice facilities? <br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>That was my thinking too. If some form of exercise is required for research purposes maybe there can be an alternate 'lab' but otherwise access to the gym, pool, etc is, at most, as a reward only.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dashenka</strong> on <strong>07-01-2010, 21:35:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				well if the guards are made to life at the compound... I'm guessing you either need to make them comfortable or pay them a lot...<br><br><br>second.. I was just copying from I saw in earlier posts..
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>07-01-2010, 21:53:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh... I'd imagine that guards have a pretty good salary, and that accommodations for them would be quite nice.&nbsp; Perhaps not as plush as it would be for the Warden of course.&nbsp; Scientists would probably have it a bit better than the guards - maybe they have small apartments instead of sharing a common area?&nbsp; Rec facilities and such would, of course, be shared by everyone (except the Warden, perhaps, who might have a few extra benefits?)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Misery</strong> on <strong>08-01-2010, 02:24:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				To the commitment question from earlier I have no problem with that.&nbsp; I like the pictures Katy provided for the guards.&nbsp; I agree that the staff have separate facilities maybe with some prisoner staff for the ones that are really well behaved or guests.&nbsp; Just a thought.&nbsp; &nbsp;
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>08-01-2010, 03:23:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				&nbsp;white cell.&nbsp; i like this one, but it has walls and a door. &nbsp;(http://www.kearch.com/commercial/slideshow/images/commercial_stand_slide011.jpg)<br><br><br>this looks fitting i think for prisoners (http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/prison-5.jpg)<br><br><br>ooo.. i like this on too&nbsp; ;D &nbsp;(http://www.spankingblog.com/spanking-pictures/sex-and-submission-jail-cell-01.jpg)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Misery</strong> on <strong>08-01-2010, 03:35:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				:-)&nbsp; I think the third is later.&nbsp; <br><br>I like the first but agree the second is probably more fitting for a prison.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>08-01-2010, 04:26:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2617150#msg2617150">Quote from: auroraChloe on 08-01-2010, 03:23:20</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"> white cell.&nbsp; i like this one, but it has walls and a door. &nbsp;(http://www.kearch.com/commercial/slideshow/images/commercial_stand_slide011.jpg)<br><br><br>this looks fitting i think for prisoners (http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/prison-5.jpg)<br><br><br>ooo.. i like this on too&nbsp; ;D &nbsp;(http://www.spankingblog.com/spanking-pictures/sex-and-submission-jail-cell-01.jpg)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>1st one looks too comfey I think... 2nd one I like... 3rd one gives me a 403 forbidden error :(<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>08-01-2010, 04:28:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2617413#msg2617413">Quote from: Zorak on 08-01-2010, 04:26:32</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">3rd one gives me a 403 forbidden error :(<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>(http://www.spankingblog.com/spanking-pictures/sex-and-submission-jail-cell-01.jpg)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Misery</strong> on <strong>08-01-2010, 04:36:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I had to copy and paste the link into another window.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>08-01-2010, 05:36:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That worked.&nbsp; Like #2.<br><br>Also - Added a poll - All please respond as soon as you can !
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Katy1008</strong> on <strong>08-01-2010, 11:14:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Quick question, following your new picture of solitary... as a general everyday thing, are the prisoners ordinarily going to be dressed? Orange jumpsuit? Sweat pants and a vest? 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Katy1008</strong> on <strong>08-01-2010, 11:50:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<br>I think the second one is definitely more fitting for the prisoners. <br>Couple of additional options...<br><br>http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/05_01/cellDM1405_468x300.jpg (http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/05_01/cellDM1405_468x300.jpg) - although Im not picturing cells with solid doors. Traditional bars or even the electronic kind as used in the movie.<br>http://chadea.com/images/San%20Fran/Jail%20Cells.jpg (http://chadea.com/images/San%20Fran/Jail%20Cells.jpg) - but with a coat of paint! lol<br>http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/prison-4.jpg (http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/prison-4.jpg)<br>http://farm1.static.flickr.com/31/46442194_ef60fbeb2b.jpg (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/31/46442194_ef60fbeb2b.jpg)<br>http://www.womenandprison.org/images/VIT/sideview_cell.jpg (http://www.womenandprison.org/images/VIT/sideview_cell.jpg)<br><br>If the preference is for two to a cell, <br>http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/05/31/pariscell1_gallery__470x363.jpg (http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/05/31/pariscell1_gallery__470x363.jpg)<br>http://www.infowars.net/pictures/sept08/250908cells7.jpg (http://www.infowars.net/pictures/sept08/250908cells7.jpg)<br>http://www.primecoat.com/images/works/App_MDW_PrisonCells.jpg (http://www.primecoat.com/images/works/App_MDW_PrisonCells.jpg)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Senti</strong> on <strong>08-01-2010, 12:08:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Will it depend on the nature of the crime as to how many are placed in one cell?<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>08-01-2010, 12:56:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				My personal preference is http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/05/31/pariscell1_gallery__470x363.jpg (http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/05/31/pariscell1_gallery__470x363.jpg)<br><br>I have to be honest - I'm really of the opinion that there should be at LEAST 2 prisoners to a cell (I'm really in favor of 4).&nbsp; The reason for this, is that I think it makes it easier for plot opportunities to develop between prisoners.<br><br>Uniforms : I'm picturing a simple, gray colored knee-length dress with short sleeves, and either white or gray panties, and white or gray athletic bras (or none).&nbsp; Thoughts there?<br><br>As for who's assigned to what cell.... I'm thinking to assign randomly at the time we begin.<br><br>EQUIPMENT CARRIED BY GUARDS<br><br>1) Knightstick (billy-club, whatever)<br>2) Computer on forearm (identifies and controls nearby implants)<br>3) Earbud communication thingy<br>4) Pair of handcuffs<br><br>I'd imagine the uniform to be not as "official" looking (no hat, for example - what good is that?) but more designed for efficiency, and to stand out from the population.&nbsp; Maybe something slightly loose fitting so that the guards can use it like they would a ghi ?<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>08-01-2010, 12:59:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Also... do you think we should delay starting (right now scheduled for Monday) until all these questions are answered?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dashenka</strong> on <strong>08-01-2010, 13:27:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Personally I don't care much how the cells will look but I do fancy those traditional iron fenced doors like the San Fran prison the images. But if we decide to go with something else I'm okay with that too.<br><br>I think the most important for me is the location of the prison... hot tropical climate or cold and wintery I think we have an entire weekend to decide on things and that should be enough.<br><br><br>Not really a fan of delaying since I'm very eager to go :)<br><br>(Suggestion: Since the Warden is the 'boss', why not let her decide how many prisoners in a cell, how they look etc?)<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>08-01-2010, 13:36:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2618358#msg2618358">Quote from: Dashenka on 08-01-2010, 13:27:22</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I think the most important for me is the location of the prison... hot tropical climate or cold and wintery I think we have an entire weekend to decide on things and that should be enough.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Conceptually, the prison is a "maximum security" controlled environment.&nbsp; Therefore, what's "outside" is really meaningless to prisoners, as they never get to go outside.&nbsp; The entire thing is very sterile feeling also, because it's a research facility (which means, it has to be able to be sealed-off from the rest of the world in case something gets out - think "Andromeda Strain")<br><br>Right now, I have it located underwater, and I think that works well for the concept - it controls access and makes escape damned near impossible...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>08-01-2010, 14:15:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				single cell &nbsp;(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/prison-5.jpg)<br><br>double cell 1 &nbsp;(http://quangkhoi.net/businesscenter/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/19175273_640x4801.jpg)<br><br>double cell 2-1 (http://www.creativecrash.com/system/photos/000/064/403/64403/big/prisoncell_th5.jpg?1255635613)<br>double cell 2-2 (http://www.creativecrash.com/system/photos/000/064/400/64400/big/prisoncell_th2.jpg)<br><br>double cell 3 (http://www.creativecrash.com/system/photos/000/064/399/64399/big/prisoncell_th1.jpg?1255635597)<br><br>double cell 4 (http://madoffwatch.org/home/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/capt28543b7d35b2432ca562adae8ccf3897madoff_scandal_jail_nyr101.jpg)<br><br>triple cell - could be used as double w/ storage (http://www.barrycountysheriff.com/uploads/enlarged_2d8148ac198d5b3cfaae1b59fc52a127.JPG)<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Katy1008</strong> on <strong>08-01-2010, 16:06:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I had gone for the 1-person cell, but I can see how for the plot it makes more sense to have people together... so happy with whatever is decided. Maybe the Warden should decide - its her prison after all! lol<br>The original outline indicates underwater in the North Atlantic - so that seems pretty cold to me, but temperature inside could be set to whatever the Warden wishes.<br>No problem with whatever is decided for the clothing<br><br>As for delaying, again, whatever most people think, but it might depend on from when you want to start things off. If you want to take it from the subs arrival, and Im guessing (dangerous I know) that we would be arriving in our own clothes, there is the arrival itself and the initial meeting with the warden/doctor before we get to the issue of clothing and allocation to cells. Perhaps that could be started... but if its better to get a few more things confirmed first, no problem there either.<br><br>K
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Katy1008</strong> on <strong>08-01-2010, 16:14:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				What about this... without the hat of course and maybe a little less tight/short?<br><br>http://popfuzz.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/prisoner-ad-hat-copy.jpg (http://popfuzz.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/prisoner-ad-hat-copy.jpg)<br><br>And in grey
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>08-01-2010, 17:21:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2618526#msg2618526">Quote from: Katy1008 on 08-01-2010, 16:14:45</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">What about this... without the hat of course and maybe a little less tight/short?<br><br>http://popfuzz.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/prisoner-ad-hat-copy.jpg (http://popfuzz.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/prisoner-ad-hat-copy.jpg)<br><br>And in grey<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>That's pretty much what I had in my brain ... exactly as you're describing it too :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>08-01-2010, 19:43:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Based upon discussion, and results from the poll - there will be 2 prisoners in each cell.&nbsp; The punishment of Solitary Confinement will also be available.&nbsp; I've posted a cell picture (just use your imagination to change the colors and make the door high-tech).&nbsp; Cells in solitary would have solid doors, no furniture, and a choice of either very bright light, or complete darkness.&nbsp; The cells in solitary can be individually temperature controlled (bwahahaha).
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>08-01-2010, 22:29:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Other items of interest:<br><br><strong>Prisoners</strong><ul class="bbc_list"><li>are not aware of the purpose, or location of the FORTRESS, or anything about it.&nbsp; They are only aware that they are being transferred to a privately owned, maximum security facility.</li><li>They come in with the clothes on their back</li><li>They have been pre-screened without their knowledge</li><li>are assigned a cell (and cellmate) by the WARDEN</li></ul><strong>Other assumptions</strong><ul class="bbc_list"><li>All prisoners in our role play will be located within the same cell block, to make things a bit simpler, and let everyone interact.</li><li>Cell blocks are sealed off from each other (only staff can go between them).</li><li>During certain hours of the day, cell doors are unlocked and prisoners can move freely about the cell block.</li><li>The implants can be traced (eg, the administration knows the location of all the prisoners).</li><li>Staff can "send for" a prisoner.&nbsp; They're escorted to "wherever" by a guard (either a player, or a phantom one)</li></ul><strong>Administrative Issues</strong><br><ul class="bbc_list"><li>Myself and auroraChloe, as the hosts of this little game, will function as guides.&nbsp; We'll act as the "final word" for any questions or disputes once play begins.&nbsp; We don't intend to force any issues, or guide the RP - just that in a group like this, we need to designate someone as having some kind of authority.&nbsp; Hopefully, we won't have to ever get involved in anything - I think we've got good peeps here, and I'm looking forward to reading what everyone produces :) :) :)</li><li>Anyone who has experience building WIKI pages, and would like to participate in making one for this RP, PLEASE PLEASE, send me a PM!&nbsp; I'm going to attempt to build a page that will help everyone get the setting information, and such, in an easy to follow format so that it can add color and fun to the RP, instead of making it annoying :)</li></ul>Expect the forum topics for RP to be built over the weekend (they'll be locked until things open officially on Monday - likely in the evening hours ET).&nbsp; We'll keep this OOC thread open to continually discuss setting and process.&nbsp; Another will be started for plot-related OOC chatter.&nbsp; I'll be making the starting RP posting - it will involve the initial intake of the prisoner group in such a way that the prisoners can "react" to it, thus starting things off.<br><br>I had no idea how complex this whole thing would get until we all started talking about it - I think that by setting the stage properly going in, the RP will flow naturally.&nbsp; If you're reading, and haven't chimed-in on everything, please do so if you have anything you'd like to add!<br><br>Watch the "poll" item at the top of the page - I'll be tossing a few more things up - please vote!<br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;- Z
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dashenka</strong> on <strong>08-01-2010, 22:45:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				May I suggest a new update on players and their roles? Or if there already is one, a link to that and maybe a PM to all players with a reference to this topic as Im not sure if all players read this topic :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>08-01-2010, 22:56:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				so genders are NOT kept separate.&nbsp; (i think we have at least one male prisoner.)<br>the RFID / gps is a good idea.&nbsp; these people have nearly NO privacy.<br><br>i take it that the toilet and sink are behind the small wall in the 2 man cell you have posted. ?&nbsp; <br><br>i am not great with wiki but i am great at stealing code!&nbsp; so if no one else volunteers i can give it a whirl.<br><br>Z, it does seem to be a lot of effort just to get rolling, but if we prepare well, i think things will move smoothly later on, even as people join or leave the game.<br><br><div align="center"><span style="font-size: 18pt;" class="bbc_size">build it and they will come</span></div>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>RubySlippers</strong> on <strong>08-01-2010, 22:58:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I want a staff section with a nice greenhouse and garden, heated pool, kitchen/dining area, rec area and access to the outside world (internet and the like), medical clinic plus a decent library. Obviously secured with access only to model prisoners doing some kind of work there. The staff will leive there with the Warden aned Company Man getting the best quarters.<br><br>For the prison proper an poor library nothing that might incite issues like lots of paperback books, a rec area that is ok and kitchen/dining area and we have to have group showers with no privacy. The medical facility will give care based on Merit Points.<br><br>MERIT SYSTEM PROPOSED with a 5 Point Scale<br><br>-1 IN HOT WATER as in solitary confinement or administrative punishment<br><br>0 Minimal Privileges (as in not in the above situation), get protein bars and water for food think Soylent Green, Rec Time<br><br>1 Kitchen/Dining Rights as in Hot Food that is Tasty Enough, Can Work to Earn Credits for the Prisoner Store, Medical Care Level I (as can see a nurse)<br><br>2 Library Privileges<br><br>3 Can Work for Prison Based Corporate Entity (Telemarket and the Like) for More Credits for the Prison Store, Extra Rec Time and Library Access (at the discretion of the staff)<br><br>4 Request Special Work (like in the staff section of the complex), Level II Medical Care (nurse practitioner and maybe the staff doctor)<br><br>5 Model Prisoner ~ in good with the staff and can choose work assignments for others in the prison and get extra credits for their work, cell block leaders ~<br><br>Gain ONE for every six months of good behavior up to 4 Merits<br><br>Staff with Rank Sargeant or Higher in Security Can Recommend for ONE Merit Point (can go to 5)<br><br>Fighting, Having Contraband or Other Actrs Negative to the Productivity a drop of ONE Merit or more at the severity of the action. Must waith 6 MOnths after punishment before gaining Merits.<br><br>Warden and Company Man can add ONE or reduce ONE as they wish. (Can go to 5 or -1)&nbsp; ;D<br><br>(any comments?)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>08-01-2010, 23:08:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2619320#msg2619320">Quote from: auroraChloe on 08-01-2010, 22:56:26</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">so genders are NOT kept separate.&nbsp; (i think we have at least one male prisoner.)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Oh yes... genders will be separate.&nbsp; To my knowledge, we have no male prisoners (at least, none that have posted a character to the bio thread).<br><br>If you know how to create a page in the Elluiki, please enlighten me :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>08-01-2010, 23:42:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<br>PAGE 1 HAS BEEN UPDATED !&nbsp; &nbsp;CELL INFORMATION SPECIFICALLY, AND INFORMATION ABOUT THE FACILITY ITSELF.&nbsp; PLEASE CHECK! (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.0)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>08-01-2010, 23:48:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2619329#msg2619329">Quote from: RubySlippers on 08-01-2010, 22:58:50</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I want a staff section with a nice greenhouse and garden, heated pool, kitchen/dining area, rec area and access to the outside world (internet and the like), medical clinic plus a decent library. Obviously secured with access only to model prisoners doing some kind of work there. The staff will leive there with the Warden aned Company Man getting the best quarters.<br><br>For the prison proper an poor library nothing that might incite issues like lots of paperback books, a rec area that is ok and kitchen/dining area and we have to have group showers with no privacy. The medical facility will give care based on Merit Points.<br><br>[merit system snipped in the interest of space ]<br><br>(any comments?)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I'm all for the first part (employee facilities).<br><br>I think the merit system is too complicated, and I believe the inmates should have no personal property.&nbsp; I think we want to encourage a little "misbehavior" on the part of the employees (who take prisoners they like, and give them special treatment, which gets other prisoners mad, etc.etc.etc...)&nbsp; Remember, we're dealing with a somewhat corrupt organization running things as well - we're not trying to build a "model prison", but rather, a "sterile, but creepy place" :)<br><br>Places like a library and such are good ideas, but they don't get to take anything back to the cells with them.&nbsp; Maybe, if they behave, someone will give them paper and a crayon :)<br><br>The only way a prisoner contacts the outside world is through an employee - remember, nobody knows where they are or what's happened to them... they're all "off the grid"...<br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;- Z
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dashenka</strong> on <strong>08-01-2010, 23:54:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				but the guards know where they are right?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>08-01-2010, 23:58:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div align="center"><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="bbc_size"><strong>CHARACTER BIOS RECEIVED SO FAR (If you want to be part of the opening RP, you MUST submit your bio to the character thread by midnight, Sunday 10 January)</strong></span></div><br><hr><br>Company<br><ul class="bbc_list"><li>Carl Dodd (Zorak) - Scientist and "company toad"</li><li>Marissa Taylor (RubySlippers) - WARDEN</li><li>Rachel Sam Blique (Combicon) - Medical Doctor</li><li>Aleks Popov (Misery) - Guard</li><li>Anzhelika Nikolaev (Dashenka) - Guard</li></ul><br>Prisoners<br><ul class="bbc_list"><li>Kate Bartlett (katy1008)</li><li>Amelia Lightfoot (senti)</li><li>Teri Amderson (Chaos)</li><li>Ella Thompson (auroraChloe)</li></ul>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>08-01-2010, 23:59:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2619471#msg2619471">Quote from: Dashenka on 08-01-2010, 23:54:37</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">but the guards know where they are right?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Yeah... of course :)&nbsp; And they can communicate with the outside world all they want.&nbsp; They're under a "nondisclosure" though, so if they blab too much to people outside, that could get them in trouble with the company...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Calista Jade</strong> on <strong>09-01-2010, 00:26:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'll try and send it before deadline... I'm in my nightshift right now, brain's a little mushy.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>RubySlippers</strong> on <strong>09-01-2010, 03:03:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well the prison store would sell small things like gum and candy, special persona grooming items other than soap and water and the like given at an unfair price. And the merit system is meant to be abused why do you think guards and well the head people get to add points and deduct them. If say prisoner x doesn't put out for a guard there goes a chance at a Merit Point. And the ways to lose them can be high since any act like not pleasing a guard would be a reason for that - disobeying an order of a superior.<br><br>But we can drop that.&nbsp; ;D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>09-01-2010, 06:09:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2619546#msg2619546">Quote from: Calista Jade on 09-01-2010, 00:26:29</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'll try and send it before deadline... I'm in my nightshift right now, brain's a little mushy.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Don't worry - you got a couple of days :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>09-01-2010, 06:11:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2619914#msg2619914">Quote from: RubySlippers on 09-01-2010, 03:03:29</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Well the prison store would sell small things like gum and candy, special persona grooming items other than soap and water and the like given at an unfair price. And the merit system is meant to be abused why do you think guards and well the head people get to add points and deduct them. If say prisoner x doesn't put out for a guard there goes a chance at a Merit Point. And the ways to lose them can be high since any act like not pleasing a guard would be a reason for that - disobeying an order of a superior.<br><br>But we can drop that.&nbsp; ;D <br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I guess my view, would be that a guard should just do what they want anyway... so why bother with merits?&nbsp; Give and take privileges at the drop of a hat just to get what you want, or just to be mean :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>09-01-2010, 06:33:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Should inmates be permitted to have "personal" effects? <br><br>i said yes... but i want&nbsp; to qualify that with 'limited'.&nbsp; and perhaps earned somehow.&nbsp; <br><br>like working in the kitchen earns them credits and they can special order in (in lieu of a company store) maybe a special computer catalog in the library.&nbsp; (nothing that will access outside the corp intranet)<br><br>and if a guard or doctor wants to give them some sort of keepsake...&nbsp; why not?<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Misery</strong> on <strong>09-01-2010, 06:50:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				My thoughts on merits is that will give the prisoners way to barter or trade with each other.&nbsp; Stuff perhaps to bribe others etc.&nbsp; &nbsp; As to personal items some basics but beyond that I agree that they should be earned and just as easily taken away.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>RubySlippers</strong> on <strong>09-01-2010, 08:07:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2620423#msg2620423">Quote from: Zorak on 09-01-2010, 06:11:37</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I guess my view, would be that a guard should just do what they want anyway... so why bother with merits?&nbsp; Give and take privileges at the drop of a hat just to get what you want, or just to be mean :)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Beacause the Warden wants some sort of system the stupid inmates get and isn't complicated. And to figure out which inmates are good or bad with one number. We can't have a bad inmate get a cushy job in the prison now can we?<br><br>And this gives me some in game oversight of the guards if they promote a prisoner I'll expect a reason.<br><br>My Warden likes order.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>09-01-2010, 13:47:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<span style="font-size: 1.35em;" class="bbc_size"><strong>Ok... seems like people want a few things - please chime in on these thoughts... </strong></span><br><br><ul class="bbc_list"><li>Merit System : Something non-complex.&nbsp; How about a simple MERIT/DEMERIT system?&nbsp; They all start at 0, and the lower you go, the worse you are.&nbsp; Earing "merits" counteracts "demerits"... would that be OK with everyone?</li></ul><ul class="bbc_list"><li>Personal Effects : They come in with nothing.&nbsp; They can get stuff from the staff (gifts, rewards, etc.).&nbsp; Maybe - you can "trade" a merit point for a particular item?&nbsp; Items issued to each inmate on arrival : Uniform, a towel, a blanket, 1 pad of paper, 1 black crayon, 1 toothbrush.</li></ul><ul class="bbc_list"><li>Sundries required for hygiene (soap, toothpaste, etc) come from dispenser units.&nbsp; Laundry will clean uniforms, towels &amp; blankets weekly.</li></ul>(see, we're getting more complex, so I'm really hot for that WIKI now ;) 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Katy1008</strong> on <strong>09-01-2010, 14:25:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				No problems with any of this really - just one thought...<br><br>If there is any form of 'system' for awarding/removing/trading merits, then wouldn't someone need to continually 'keep count'? Do we need/want to be this detailed (no problem if we do and if there is a volunteer to do the 'book-keeping')? <br><br>To keep it simple, can the merit award/removal be a little more immediate. The guards have a certain amount of power to reward/punish; the warden has the rest. If a guard thinks that a reward should be given/removed which is beyond their power, they simply report it to the warden (although this doesn't necessarily/always have to be played out in the RP formally). It also opens up the possibility of the guards threatening to lie (or indeed actually lying) to the warden about the prisoners conduct in order to get them to do what they want or just because they're a vicious bastard who doesn't like a particular prisoner. This gives them a power of control in addition to what they have as part of the PCS (maybe the PCS is enough?).&nbsp; Instead of trading merits, prisoners simply trade any gifts/goods that they may be given... cigarettes seem to be a&nbsp; typical common currency (or is this a no-smoking facility)? But it could also be soap, toothpaste, paper... <br>Again, it doesn't have to be formally played out in the RP, but maybe once a week/month, there is a meeting between guards/wardens (maybe the prisoner is required to attend if people do want to actually RP this) where each prisoner's behaviour/attitude is discussed and the 'big' rewards may be awarded/removed.<br><br>Just a thought (or two, lol)&nbsp; anyway. <br><br>K
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>09-01-2010, 18:12:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<br><br>IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT<br><br><br>All information from Message-1 has been moved to the new WIKI page http://elliquiy.com/wiki/THE_FORTRESS (http://elliquiy.com/forums/../wiki/THE_FORTRESS)<br><br><br>If you feel anything needs to be added, please let me know.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>09-01-2010, 18:14:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Consensus is that personal items in the posesion of inmates will be limited to items issued during their processing, and items obtained from an employee.&nbsp; There will be no "store", and outside items will not be permitted.<br><br>The merit/demerit system will be "immediate".&nbsp; We'll keep track in the WIKI, so that everyone can update!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Misery</strong> on <strong>09-01-2010, 18:17:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Nice job on the Wiki.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Katy1008</strong> on <strong>09-01-2010, 18:32:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Damn fine job indeed!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>09-01-2010, 18:33:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2621451#msg2621451">Quote from: Misery on 09-01-2010, 18:17:35</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Nice job on the Wiki. </blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>ditto!&nbsp; great job!&nbsp; <br><br>you caught on to that fast.&nbsp; though i do hope you might add some images at some point.&nbsp; <br>keeping track of demerits there is a great idea.&nbsp; !!<br><br>*bows to our fearless leader*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>09-01-2010, 18:38:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				[Zorak blushes from all the praise]<br><br>Thanks :)&nbsp; &nbsp;Please point out anything else that should be added (working on images now)<br><br>&nbsp; - Z
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>09-01-2010, 21:13:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<strong><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="bbc_size">SEE MESSAGE 1</span><br><br>The official game thread, and OOC Chatter thread have been created.&nbsp; At this time, they remain locked.&nbsp; Significant changes to the WIKI will continue until Monday Afternoon (Eastern Time).</strong>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Calista Jade</strong> on <strong>11-01-2010, 02:32:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				On second thought... I need to drop RPs, so joining a new one isnt that much of a good idea. Good luck with it, and have fun! I'll probably keep an eye on it, this really has my interest. Just... no time :(
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>11-01-2010, 02:43:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2625146#msg2625146">Quote from: Calista Jade on 11-01-2010, 02:32:46</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">On second thought... I need to drop RPs, so joining a new one isnt that much of a good idea. Good luck with it, and have fun! I'll probably keep an eye on it, this really has my interest. Just... no time :(&nbsp; </blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>aww, sorry to hear that Calista Jade.&nbsp; remember you can join in when ever, so.. when some time frees up for you, let us know
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>11-01-2010, 20:05:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry you won't be joining us Calista... As aurora mentioned... we'll be happy to work you in any time!<br><br><span style="font-size: 20pt;" class="bbc_size"> <strong> ALL :: THE FIRST ENTRY HAS BEEN POSTED - THE MAIN THREAD, AND THE OOC CHATTER THREAD HAVE BEEN UNLOCKED.&nbsp; PLEASE FEEL WELCOME TO POST!&nbsp; </strong> </span>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>12-01-2010, 00:15:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="bbc_size">Everyone, please remember the posting guidlines.</span><br><br>Dashenka &amp; Katy -&nbsp; i would appreciate it if you would edit your first posts.&nbsp; thanks!&nbsp; <br><br><br>------&nbsp; <br>MY CHARACTER'S ROLE, MY CHARACTER'S NAME<br><br>MY CHARACTER'S CURRENT LOCATION<br><br>The heading should be in BOLDFACE , and the character's name can be first-name only. As we begin, location names will start "happening" as people invent additional locations (eg, Raul's quarters, Cell AA-23, Solitary Confinement, Morgue etc.) Once a location name is used, try to use the same lingo (eg, if you're taken to "Raul's quarters", don't post from Raul's bedroom"). So, by way of example:<br><br><br>GUARD, HELGA<br><br>OUTSIDE CELL AC-14 <br>--------------------<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Combustible</strong> on <strong>12-01-2010, 00:21:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I just got finished reading over this along with the original request thread and the Wiki, after being momentarily overwhelmed I think I've finally got a relatively decent grasp on what's up. I'd love to take up the role of one of the Male Guards but if you're specifically looking for any other roles I'm sure I could fill in just about any slot.<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>12-01-2010, 00:36:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Everyone...<br><br><br>Please remember the POSTING GUIDELINES... http://elliquiy.com/wiki/THE_FORTRESS#POSTING_GUIDELINES (http://elliquiy.com/wiki/THE_FORTRESS#POSTING_GUIDELINES)<br><br>It doesn't seem important right now, but as the plots begin to form, it will be - so let's all get in the habit :)<br><br>Thanks !<br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; - Z
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>12-01-2010, 21:29:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just a reminder ... when making our posts, let's please remember to follow the guidelines, setting, and background we all agreed to and that are mentioned in the WIKI.&nbsp; If I've left anything out, please let me know so that I can add it.&nbsp; If we want to change something, we should discuss it OOC.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>12-01-2010, 21:55:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				yeah.&nbsp; i was a little shocked to see the rape stuff laid right out there in the welcome.&nbsp; i thought it was going to be an unspoken allowance.&nbsp; this kind of takes the fun out of it.&nbsp; the fight/struggle is part of the turn on.&nbsp; <br><br>just my thoughts.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>12-01-2010, 22:24:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I don't particularly want to direct the flow of RP outside the boundaries of the WIKI, because the nature of it is for everyone to participate and build it.&nbsp; That said, I wouldn't be truthful if I said I didn't kind of agree with aurora...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>RubySlippers</strong> on <strong>12-01-2010, 23:56:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh don't worry my character really won't remember her orders and the rape stuff is mostly punishment under orders if you really piss her off. I assume most prisoners do the sex for favors and the like and will leave that to the guards abd prisoners in good standing the stewards. BTW there are not likely many they are there to give inmates someone to target and be good. <br><br>But you want say makeup or body spray or cigarettes you may have to put out. But The Warden has to make the threat for the ladies to behave so rape is an option but one she would rarely order it. Without the consent of the player ooc.<br><br>As for the tattoo thing its just The Warden hates tattooes but talk a guard or the doctor into ignoring the order my character won't mind. She likely will forget it when she gets to her office. lol But it will concern one player she likes her tattoo so stripping her of gang affiliations is part of her life here as far as my character views it. Butif the doctor says its not safe to remove it she would accept the situation.<br><br><br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dashenka</strong> on <strong>13-01-2010, 00:09:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Just for my own feeling... I think the Warden should set up a cell lay out... who stays with who... since we have two prisoners per cell. It would mean for this game we only use two cell blocks so far but it's rather crucial to know who goes where..<br><br>If you had this planned Ruby, then ignore this message, but if not I think you should consider this..
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>RubySlippers</strong> on <strong>13-01-2010, 00:22:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well the guards would decide that you might need to convince them if you have a preference. She is The Warden that is not her job to do the little details.&nbsp; :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>13-01-2010, 00:25:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I think the warden needs to review the WIKI...&nbsp; She's already made several changes to the agreed setting, both in style, and in scope...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>RubySlippers</strong> on <strong>13-01-2010, 18:24:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm leaving, this is far to much out of my control for my taste. And any real prison would want to make money in many areas idle inmates are bad. Its just not overly realistic and I don't see a company doing this. Mining is great but what are the women to do sit there and do nothing that breeds discontent and that breeds trouble. So outside contracted work would be expected and whatever work the prison makes up internally.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>13-01-2010, 18:44:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry to hear you're dropping out... but the "work" issue wasn't what anyone was referring to :(&nbsp; &nbsp;It was that your posts kind of ignored a number of things that were discussed and agreed on both here in the OOC, and then translated into the WIKI.<br><br>I never liked the idea of "directing" roleplay, but in a group situation like this, it just seemed like everyone wanted some cemented guidelines to work with so that our storylines could have some cohesion.&nbsp; The idea was for the framework to be the controlling item, not any one player - that way everyone has a buy-in to the environment and can work their way thorough it comfortably.<br><br>I'm hopeful that everyone will continue developing their characters - what I've read so far has made me crave more, and the overall quality of writing has far exceeded any expectations I could have had ...&nbsp; Let's continue that positive trend!<br><br>If there's anyone else out there feeling overly-constrained, please let me know.&nbsp; Let's address items when they come up.&nbsp; Also - since people seem comfortable with this OOC group, I don't see any reason for the other, so I'm going to delete the "ooc chatter" thread, and we'll consolidate everything here where we're all used to being.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Katy1008</strong> on <strong>13-01-2010, 20:15:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				More than happy to carry on and not feeling overly-constrained at all. <br><br>One thing out of this though is that at least from time to time, someone 'in authority' is going to have to move things on or make certain decisions. Obviously at the moment, us prisoners are sitting around watching the video and Im guess we can't unilaterally decide to get up, have a wander around the facility&nbsp; or start a conversation with a fellow prisoner or an employee lol. <br><br>Or maybe Dashenka or Misery fancy a promotion - you could still 'walk the floors'?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>13-01-2010, 20:32:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm assuming a guard will take you to your cells&nbsp; -&nbsp; I'm sure they'll chime in when they have time to write :)<br><br>And yes - if anyone wants a promotion, that's certainly doable... I can even work it into the RP.&nbsp; In the meantime, as the "company dude", I can provide interim guidance through my posts.&nbsp; I can also take over the warden's role and play her as a desk-jockey... lots of options.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dashenka</strong> on <strong>13-01-2010, 23:47:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Posted....<br><br>took a bit of liberty in steering a bit without forcing too much. If it's too much please tell me and I'll adjust my post. Just want to keep a little speed in it :)<br><br>I think we can do without a physical warden by the way. If there is a decision that needs to be taken by the warden, the two guard and Dr Dodd can talk about it&nbsp; and come to a solution. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>14-01-2010, 00:14:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Please note the poll up top...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>14-01-2010, 00:17:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2633402#msg2633402">Quote from: Dashenka on 13-01-2010, 23:47:23</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Posted....<br><br>took a bit of liberty in steering a bit without forcing too much. If it's too much please tell me and I'll adjust my post. Just want to keep a little speed in it :)<br><br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I thought that was just fine :)&nbsp; I think you could also continue further, and actually take them somewhere if you want.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>14-01-2010, 17:00:19</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<br>Following popular opinion, the WARDEN role is now available.&nbsp; If anyone is interested send a PM.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>14-01-2010, 17:10:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2635424#msg2635424">Quote from: Zorak on 14-01-2010, 17:00:19</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Following popular opinion, the WARDEN role is now available.&nbsp; If anyone is interested send a PM.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>i've had a couple of people check out the wiki game, so...&nbsp; we might have a new player.&nbsp; not sure if it is for the warden or something else.&nbsp; also i pm'd Combustible about his interest in the game a couple of days ago but got no response.&nbsp; <br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>14-01-2010, 17:24:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well... if there's more people, or not, I'm enjoying it already ;)<br><br>FYI - i assigned the cells randomly - and because of their location, you should all be able to talk to each other without any problems.&nbsp; Also - people playing prisoners should feel welcome to "set the time of day", and "arrange the open cell block times" also, so that you can get into little cat-fights or whatever&nbsp; &gt;:)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Senti</strong> on <strong>14-01-2010, 17:28:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Do you really want Amelia out to play? :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>14-01-2010, 17:29:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				If she doesn't come out to play, won't she be bored?<br><br>Remember her limitations though ;)&nbsp; &nbsp;Just 'cause the doors are open doesn't mean the guards aren't watching... And there are LOTS of guards, not just the one's with players behind 'em...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Senti</strong> on <strong>14-01-2010, 17:33:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				it takes time to offer salvation so Amelia must work out her methods.&nbsp; <br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>14-01-2010, 17:44:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				well.. i was wondering about Amelia.&nbsp; perhaps she can kill a prisoner or what ever with out a player behind them as well.&nbsp; i wouldn't think she'd actually kill off an active player with out their consent OOC.&nbsp; or is Senti the crazy one?&nbsp; &nbsp;:P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>14-01-2010, 17:50:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				so many possibilities... have you considered a "disciple" for your "church of blood"?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Senti</strong> on <strong>14-01-2010, 17:58:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				its not killing..its enlightening. :P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>14-01-2010, 18:05:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2635565#msg2635565">Quote from: Senti on 14-01-2010, 17:58:03</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">its not killing..its enlightening. :P&nbsp; </blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>heheee... love it.&nbsp; <br><br>"do you see?"&nbsp; &lt;&lt;&lt;&nbsp; &nbsp;get this serial killer movie quote and win a prize!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>14-01-2010, 18:07:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				also..&nbsp; i am not seeing shoes mentioned anywhere.&nbsp; are we barefoot ?&nbsp; <br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Senti</strong> on <strong>14-01-2010, 18:15:22</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Poor Kate has to room with her too.<br><br>now whats her crime...what was she in 'life'....<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>14-01-2010, 18:21:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2635613#msg2635613">Quote from: Senti on 14-01-2010, 18:15:22</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Poor Kate has to room with her too.<br><br>now whats her crime...what was she in 'life'....<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>here is her character bio.... &nbsp;(http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56752.msg2591988#msg2591988)<br><br>i have the thread bookmarked, as i'm sure i will be referring to it quite a bit (at least in the beginning)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Senti</strong> on <strong>14-01-2010, 18:30:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I read that...we just need to find the right way...<br><br>LA la la Amelia is really a nice roomie ..as she is so quiet and polite.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>14-01-2010, 18:31:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I've got links to all the character bios, and everyone's profiles, in the WIKI - there's a link at the bottom.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dashenka</strong> on <strong>14-01-2010, 19:00:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Who needs shoes.... let's wear socks... I like socks... socks are sexy... specially laced ones or knee socks...<br><br><br>oops..<br>&nbsp;:-[ :-[<br><br>I ranted *blush*<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>14-01-2010, 19:02:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2635730#msg2635730">Quote from: Dashenka on 14-01-2010, 19:00:11</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Who needs shoes.... let's wear socks... I like socks... socks are sexy... specially laced ones or knee socks...<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>careful Dashenka.. your kinkies are showing.&nbsp; &nbsp;:P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>14-01-2010, 19:06:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Please note the poll ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Katy1008</strong> on <strong>14-01-2010, 19:07:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Yeah! Not only do I get wrongfully put in here but Im the one that finishes up sharing with the pyschopath lol!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>15-01-2010, 13:13:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				OK... since a number of people answered the poll, but nobody commented on the last choice...&nbsp; <br><br>Presented for your amusement... <strong><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="bbc_size">The Cruel Shoes</span></strong> (http://www.aj.cz/celeb/sm3/cruel_shoes.mp3)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>15-01-2010, 14:16:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2638315#msg2638315">Quote from: Zorak on 15-01-2010, 13:13:36</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Presented for your amusement... <strong><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="bbc_size">The Cruel Shoes</span></strong></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>funny, sounds like shoes to do some research on.<br><br>steve martin is a wack. <br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>15-01-2010, 14:25:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<br>{ Z checks the Fortress' inventory of 'cruel shoes'... 50 pair... hmmm....}
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>16-01-2010, 21:01:04</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				FYI holding off posting to give Chaos a chance to post.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>17-01-2010, 14:01:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Since the votes were split, and "barefoot" got more than one...<br><br>Prisoners have no shoes.&nbsp; You go barefoot.&nbsp; The original uniform description didn't include any footwear, so that's how it stays ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>19-01-2010, 00:19:20</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Updated wiki picks for solitary...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Misery</strong> on <strong>19-01-2010, 01:38:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				very nice
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>19-01-2010, 13:30:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Updated WIKI section on prisoners to include male uniforms, specifics on footwear and rules for personal possessions.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>20-01-2010, 05:35:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hi everyone !<br><br>Just a quick note to point everyone at the character bio thread... let's have a nice howdy-ho to Merdoroli, the first male prisoner.&nbsp; We'll work him into the plot within the next day or two.&nbsp; If anyone has any thoughts or ideas about that, feel free to share here, or have a PM with him if you want to discuss some possible interpersonals.<br><br>Also, it's his first RP here at Elliquiy, so let's all make a special effort to help where needed and be gentle (at least, in ooc - bwahahahaha ;)<br><br>Welcome :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Merdoroli</strong> on <strong>20-01-2010, 05:56:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Couldn't of done it without your help Zorak. Thanks. As he said, feel free to PM me anytime I'm always open to new ideas when I can get them. Sorry for the pictures in my bio being links instead of actually being there. I would fix it but I'm only a lowly NING and can't modify my posts. Or at least if I can I don't know how. I assume there's a button nearby but I don't see one... leading to the assumption that I can't do that. <br><br>Anyways, I'm just ranting now, sorry. I do that when I get embarrassed... by things like people pointing out to the whole group just how new I am *blushes*. Well thanks for having me, I'll try to not act too much the noob :P.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>20-01-2010, 06:14:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2653169#msg2653169">Quote from: Merdoroli on 20-01-2010, 05:56:16</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">when I get embarrassed... by things like people pointing out to the whole group just how new I am *blushes*. <br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>No problem - glad to have been helpful.&nbsp; We'll make sure to embarrass you on a regular basis!&nbsp; &nbsp; (just kidding...or am I...&nbsp; &gt;:)&nbsp; )<br><br>btw - updated the WIKI Merdoroli's character, and marked Combicon's as inactive :(&nbsp; <br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;- Z
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>20-01-2010, 06:34:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Welcome aboard, Merdoroli.&nbsp; hope you enjoy your stay at Elliquiy.<br><br>Z, combi may be waiting for an instance where a doctor is needed before chiming in.&nbsp; i'll nudge her to see what is up.<br><br>speaking of nudging. has anyone heard from Chaos?&nbsp; it's been a weeks since he posted.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>20-01-2010, 13:05:31</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I had a few back and forth PMs with combi... that's why I set her inactive :(<br><br>Really too bad - I thought her char was great.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dashenka</strong> on <strong>20-01-2010, 13:59:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				combi? or you mean Chaos?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>20-01-2010, 14:10:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I spoke with combi, who specifically mentioned she would not post... dunno about Chaos.<br><br>I recently posted another message in the wanted thread, and we got one recruit - I think it would be good if we had more, so everyone can help evangelize a bit - maybe do what aurora and I have on our sigs? (see below).<br><br>FYI - I'm really enjoying this RP so far - it looks like we have a couple of interesting plot lines started...<br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;- Z
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>20-01-2010, 14:21:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				well, the whack-a-doo's are certainly covered !&nbsp; &nbsp; XD
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>20-01-2010, 22:28:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Added more details on solitary confinement cells to the wiki - please send thoughts/criticisms if needed.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Misery</strong> on <strong>21-01-2010, 01:39:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Welcome Merdoroli.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>21-01-2010, 05:28:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				are you assuming Merdoroli is already housed in the Fortress?&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Katy1008</strong> on <strong>21-01-2010, 09:18:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hi Merdoroli. Welcome to Hell! lol
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Senti</strong> on <strong>21-01-2010, 10:22:47</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hell? I quite like it here...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>21-01-2010, 13:49:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2656565#msg2656565">Quote from: auroraChloe on 21-01-2010, 05:28:21</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">are you assuming Merdoroli is already housed in the Fortress? <br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Actually... I was going to ask our two guards to bring him in, but you make a good point - we could assume that at this point - opinions (and yours counts Merdoroli ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>22-01-2010, 03:13:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2653921#msg2653921">Quote from: Zorak on 20-01-2010, 14:10:39</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I spoke with combi, who specifically mentioned she would not post... </blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>too bad because we need a doctor in da house !!!!!!!&nbsp; &nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dashenka</strong> on <strong>22-01-2010, 09:38:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Right guys....<br><br><br>I don't know when I'll be able to post again... I went outside without a coat and scarf in a -22 celcius Moscow and I got the biggest flu ever to be recorded... (I'll spare you the juicy details). So my head is not really with posting anything. I hope to be better in a couple days though or when I feel like posting sooner I will do so..<br><br>regards<br><br><br>Dasha<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Senti</strong> on <strong>22-01-2010, 10:50:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Get well soon sweatheart.<br><br>From all the voices in my head.<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>22-01-2010, 13:13:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Feel better soon!!!!&nbsp; &nbsp;<br><br>We promise not to NPC your character into a sticky situation while you're away ;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dashenka</strong> on <strong>23-01-2010, 13:12:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I managed to get a post out... not my best one ever but bare with me :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>23-01-2010, 13:34:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				We're hoping to 'bare' with you plenty in the upcoming weeks ;)&nbsp; &nbsp;Hope you're feeling better soon!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>23-01-2010, 15:16:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2660230#msg2660230">Quote from: Dashenka on 22-01-2010, 09:38:51</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I went outside without a coat and scarf in a -22 celcius Moscow and I got the biggest flu ever to be recorded...</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>BRRRRRRRRRRRR.........&nbsp; &nbsp;*sends chicken soup and healing hugs*<br><br>i will have to get my head around some kind of post too.&nbsp; though now off to catch up with the story!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>25-01-2010, 02:27:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<strong><em><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="bbc_size"> Just a reminder to everyone - please don't forget to use the character/location tags at the top of your posts&nbsp; :-)&nbsp; &nbsp;</span></em></strong>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>04-02-2010, 14:58:18</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				ack!&nbsp; sorry Katy.&nbsp; was working on it.&nbsp; &nbsp;:P<br>besides, i think we have company coming.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Katy1008</strong> on <strong>04-02-2010, 18:23:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				lol... its ok. Don't worry about it... and I think you're right.<br>K
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>05-02-2010, 19:24:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				i'm pretty excited, Ella got a candy bar.&nbsp; &nbsp;:D&nbsp; &nbsp;
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Senti</strong> on <strong>05-02-2010, 19:27:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				And poor Amelia is having an interesting time....
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>05-02-2010, 19:29:54</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				can't hardly wait to see the FAHreeky Amelia squirming!&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dashenka</strong> on <strong>06-02-2010, 00:27:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2709527#msg2709527">Quote from: auroraChloe on 05-02-2010, 19:24:25</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">i'm pretty excited, Ella got a candy bar.&nbsp; &nbsp;:D <br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br><br>Well I could hardly slip a knife into her cell could I? Seeing how bad most prison food is, you'll thank me later :D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>06-02-2010, 00:33:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2710230#msg2710230">Quote from: Dashenka on 06-02-2010, 00:27:41</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">you'll thank me later :D&nbsp; </blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>i'm sure...&nbsp; &nbsp;:P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>18-02-2010, 15:56:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				we may have a new player coming into the game...&nbsp; &nbsp; on the mad scientist side of things.&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;:)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>18-02-2010, 15:58:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That would be very good... I'd love to pay attention to all the prisoners, but there's only one of me ;)&nbsp; Doing my best to shift attentions about ...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Senti</strong> on <strong>18-02-2010, 16:02:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				And Ameila found that interest most interesting...worthy of study.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Arkaniel</strong> on <strong>19-02-2010, 02:14:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Mad scientist reporting in. That was one hell of a vacation and inspired me plenty to have new tests and experiments for my victims. I hope the guards will have fun watching, the doctor will have fun cleaning the mess I will make of my 'patients' and the prisoners... well, their throats are better moist enough, or else their voice will break too soon.<br><br>Check my character profile :)<br><br>I'll jump into the story soon enough, though if one of the characters in charge could give me an opening?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>19-02-2010, 02:19:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				welcome to the madness Arkaniel...&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>19-02-2010, 03:40:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2755764#msg2755764">Quote from: Red Nosed Arkaniel on 19-02-2010, 02:14:44</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Mad scientist reporting in. That was one hell of a vacation and inspired me plenty to have new tests and experiments for my victims. I hope the guards will have fun watching, the doctor will have fun cleaning the mess I will make of my 'patients' and the prisoners... well, their throats are better moist enough, or else their voice will break too soon.<br><br>Check my character profile :)<br><br>I'll jump into the story soon enough, though if one of the characters in charge could give me an opening?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Welcome !&nbsp; &nbsp;Since you're facility "staff", you're welcome to hitch a ride in on the next cargo sub :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Misery</strong> on <strong>19-02-2010, 05:14:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Welcome Red Nosed Arkaniel!!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>25-02-2010, 16:40:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Poor Ella has been hoodwinked !&nbsp; &nbsp; :o
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Senti</strong> on <strong>25-02-2010, 16:44:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				hey its better than meeting Doctor Dodd. <br><br>Still Amelia found it interesting :)<br><br>She really does need to find some things to make into appropriate tools for her work.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>25-02-2010, 16:49:02</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				make friends with a guard&nbsp; *wink*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>25-02-2010, 17:08:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I've been reading and enjoying ... but fighting a bad stomach flu so I've not been feeling much like writing.&nbsp; A little better today tho, so I might post later.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>25-02-2010, 17:48:41</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				sorry to hear you're feeling poorly, Z.&nbsp; &nbsp; *sends ginger ale and saltines*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Katy1008</strong> on <strong>26-02-2010, 00:07:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry for displaying my ignorance. What are saltines? Ive come across the reference a couple of times, but other than some kind of salty biscuit/crisp, I've never really known what they were?<br>And they've never made it to this side of the Atlantic (unlike most things)<br>K
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>26-02-2010, 00:41:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				hi Katy..&nbsp; <br><br>biscuits for you are cookies here i think.&nbsp; &nbsp;<br><br>a saltine is a flat white cracker that may or may not be lightly salted on&nbsp; one side.&nbsp; good with soup!<br><br>(http://taylorshocks.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/saltines.jpg)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Katy1008</strong> on <strong>26-02-2010, 00:50:40</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				ohhhh thank you. <br>Biscuits can be crackers here - we would talk of cheese biscuits which are effectively crackers (although some of them can be sweet biscuits too!). We tend to have bread with soup though rather than crackers (or biscuits lols)<br><br>K
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>26-02-2010, 00:57:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2780470#msg2780470">Quote from: Katy1008 on 26-02-2010, 00:50:40</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">ohhhh thank you. <br>Biscuits can be crackers here - we would talk of cheese biscuits which are effectively crackers (although some of them can be sweet biscuits too!). We tend to have bread with soup though rather than crackers (or biscuits lols)<br><br>K<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>an E friend in Greece has never had peanut butter.&nbsp; i had to explain it to him.&nbsp; it is a staple here in the USA.&nbsp; and rather tasty on a saltine, too !&nbsp; lol&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Katy1008</strong> on <strong>26-02-2010, 01:04:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Oh we do have peanut butter... Im not a fan though Im afraid... in fact, I hate it! <br>I like peanuts as long as they are not mixed with anything else. And peanuts and chocolate together is just a criminal waste of both. <br><br>K
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>26-02-2010, 01:08:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2780519#msg2780519">Quote from: Katy1008 on 26-02-2010, 01:04:11</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"> And peanuts and chocolate together is just a criminal waste of both. <br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>&nbsp;:o&nbsp; &nbsp;*hides the trail mix*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dashenka</strong> on <strong>26-02-2010, 12:01:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Peanutbutter is a rip off from the Dutch 'pindakaas' which literally translated means, peanutcheese. Not that there is any cheese in it but the Dutch are never good with names....<br><br>I lived in the Netherlands for a couple years and found that the 'American' peanutbutter is VERY different from the original 'pindakaas'.<br><br>As far as foods are concerned, I think it differs per country or continent. For example the foods in Europe and the UK differ from the USA and we in Russia have even more different foods. (The first KFC and Subways opened here in Moscow only 2 years ago)<br><br><br>The winter is finally leaving Russia by the way :( It was +2 celcius today :(( I'm going to miss it....
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>26-02-2010, 12:56:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2782509#msg2782509">Quote from: Dashenka on 26-02-2010, 12:01:29</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">As far as foods are concerned, I think it differs per country or continent. For example the foods in Europe and the UK differ from the USA and we in Russia have even more different foods. (The first KFC and Subways opened here in Moscow only 2 years ago)<br><br><br>The winter is finally leaving Russia by the way :( It was +2 celcius today :(( I'm going to miss it.... </blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br><br>this is why i appreciate forums / communities where&nbsp; so many cultures come together.&nbsp; <br>it is good for us Americans to see that 'it' doesn't start and end with them.&nbsp; &nbsp; <br><br>as far as winter... this one has been so strange.&nbsp; and it seems may be home from work again today because of it.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;:-\
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>01-03-2010, 13:25:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Hi everyone... <br><br>I <em>think</em> I'm mostly over this stomach thing... so I hope to have a post up today :)&nbsp; <br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;- Z
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dashenka</strong> on <strong>02-03-2010, 23:30:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				If Anzhelika gets too freaky with her fetish, please tell me&nbsp; :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>03-03-2010, 00:27:05</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2797793#msg2797793">Quote from: Dashenka on 02-03-2010, 23:30:21</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">If Anzhelika gets too freaky with her fetish, please tell me&nbsp; :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[&nbsp; </blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>*giggles a little and hugs*&nbsp; <br><br>i will hunny.&nbsp; just know i've never been with a girl in RL or RP, so we'll see how it goes.&nbsp; i'm sure it'll be entertaining either way.&nbsp; &nbsp;;)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dashenka</strong> on <strong>03-03-2010, 10:16:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				oooh really!?<br><br>You don't know what you're missing :D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Senti</strong> on <strong>03-03-2010, 10:36:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*Smiles* of course lust is a sin... do we have any meathooks?<br><br>Shame no one want to play nice with Amelia. She is such a very polite young lady.<br><br>he he he<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>05-03-2010, 22:20:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				crap !&nbsp; sorry Dashenka.. i let the games suck the muse right out of me today.&nbsp; will post for you soon!&nbsp; &nbsp;
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Misery</strong> on <strong>17-03-2010, 04:55:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				sorry guys.....I let the RL get it grips on me and lost my will to write.&nbsp; Getting back and ready to write.&nbsp; I will get caught up and post tomorrow.<br><br>Again sorry for the long delay.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>17-03-2010, 06:02:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<br>Happens to all of us :)&nbsp; &nbsp;Welcome back !
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>17-03-2010, 06:07:51</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				well this lil prisoner thinks he needs punished.&nbsp; report to Ella's cell for disciplining.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dashenka</strong> on <strong>17-03-2010, 10:41:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				There's nobody there :D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>17-03-2010, 18:09:43</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				good things come to those who <del>are accidently locked in a cell </del> wait&nbsp; <br><br>... just as long as he doesn't find the chocolate !&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dashenka</strong> on <strong>18-03-2010, 12:16:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				oh no that would be bad.....
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Senti</strong> on <strong>18-03-2010, 12:32:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				And poor Amelia the sweet innocent one...still perhaps she has a new playmate...
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>18-03-2010, 14:15:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2851838#msg2851838">Quote from: Senti on 18-03-2010, 12:32:36</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">And poor Amelia the sweet innocent one... <br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>*snorts*&nbsp; &nbsp;
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>20-03-2010, 17:40:30</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				kids.. i am off for RL adventures until tomorrow...&nbsp; &nbsp;<br><br>i'm sure ella can handle a bit of knee squeezing until then.&nbsp; heheee
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>26-03-2010, 21:30:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				posted finally.&nbsp; &nbsp;:-[
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>29-03-2010, 12:45:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<br>I'm wondering what's going to happen to the Warden... I kinda set everything up for her demise, yet... nothing's happening.&nbsp; Did I not leave enough open?<br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; - Z
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Senti</strong> on <strong>29-03-2010, 13:04:32</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Well if I am given some time I am sure Amelia will be creative. I apologise...thus I am sure Amelia will find a worthy demise.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Senti</strong> on <strong>29-03-2010, 13:07:26</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Thanks again ...I am obviously having a blonde few days.<br><br>Senti 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>14-04-2010, 01:00:03</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*pokes the OOC chatter with a stick*
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Dashenka</strong> on <strong>14-04-2010, 11:15:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Im still here :D<br><br>posting a reply soon
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Senti</strong> on <strong>14-04-2010, 12:29:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Still here ...but no one wants to play with the sweet and innocent Amelia.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>14-04-2010, 14:12:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2937987#msg2937987">Quote from: Senti on 14-04-2010, 12:29:29</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Still here ...but no one wants to play with the sweet and innocent Amelia.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>are you done cutting up the warden ?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;:D
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Zorak</strong> on <strong>14-04-2010, 14:45:53</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<br>I took some liberties... if anyone has issue with my post, just let me know.&nbsp; Figured I'd try to "clean up" the situation so that RP could move on.&nbsp; I think it might have&nbsp; been a factor in the recent hesitancy of some people to post.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>16-04-2010, 03:32:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				just heard from Misery...&nbsp; &nbsp;said to let you all know he'll be back soon to regular posting.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Katy1008</strong> on <strong>16-04-2010, 15:27:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Im still here too<br>K
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>16-04-2010, 15:44:56</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg2943671#msg2943671">Quote from: Katy1008 on 16-04-2010, 15:27:21</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Im still here too<br>K<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>yay!&nbsp; &nbsp;<br><br>hope you're ready to plan an escape&nbsp; &nbsp;<br>though i'm not so sure how successful it will be.&nbsp; &nbsp;:P
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Senti</strong> on <strong>16-04-2010, 15:46:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Pooor Pooor Amelia....all locked up on her own :P.<br><br>she only 'helped' the Warder.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>06-05-2010, 16:27:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*pokes*&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Misery</strong> on <strong>10-06-2010, 02:57:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry for being away for so long.&nbsp; Is the story still going on? Really would like to get back into the thick of the story.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>10-06-2010, 03:02:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=56750.msg3134198#msg3134198">Quote from: Misery on 10-06-2010, 02:57:28</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Sorry for being away for so long.&nbsp; Is the story still going on? Really would like to get back into the thick of the story. <br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>lay your lips on it, Misery... breath some life back into this baby.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;8-)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: The Fortress :: OOC Discussion</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>auroraChloe</strong> on <strong>10-06-2010, 03:53:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=57638.msg3084925#msg3084925">Quote from: Dashenka on 28-05-2010, 12:50:32</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">((Just seeing if this is still alive... jump in when you're still up fer this game))<br><br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br><br>wth !&nbsp; &nbsp;i didn't even see this !&nbsp; <br><br>i shall be posting soon!&nbsp; <br><br><br>
			</dd>
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