Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)
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				Title: <strong>Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>03-04-2013, 15:19:49</strong>
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				<div align="center">(http://elliquiy.com/elluiki/images/8/82/ShadowrunAttitude1.jpg)<br></div><br><br><div align="center"><span style="font-size: 24pt;" class="bbc_size"><strong>News:</strong></span></div><br><span style="font-size: 24pt;" class="bbc_size">The shadowrun has started.&nbsp; Sorry for delays.</span><br><br><div align="center">Links:</div><br>Shadowrun: Milk Run (Interest Check) (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170084.0)<br>Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related Only) (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.0)<br>Shadowrun: Milk Run (In Character) (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170109.0)<br><br><br><br>Please keep all discussion to plot- and character-related information only.&nbsp; No real life stuff.<br><br>Here's the basic header:<br><br><div class="codeheader">Code: <a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="return smfSelectText(this);" class="codeoperation">[Select]</a></div><pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"><code class="bbc_code">[floatleft][IMG height=200 padding=8](link to your image)[/IMG][/floatleft] <br>[b]Street Name:[/b] <br>[b]Sex/Metatype/Archetype:[/b] <br>[b]Attributes:[/b] <br>[b]Skills:[/b]&nbsp; <br>[b]Ethnicity/Age/Orientation:[/b]&nbsp; <br>[b]Tagged:[/b] (put street names of characters you expect responses from)<br></code></pre><br>And here are the headers for approved characters:<br><br><div class="floatleft">(http://elliquiy.com/elluiki/images/2/2b/Cbuccino21-cropped.jpg)</div> <br><strong>Street Name:</strong> Angel<br><strong>Sex/Metatype/Archetype:</strong> Female Human Infiltration Specialist/Artist<br><strong>Attributes:</strong> Intuition and Logic, Agility and Reaction<br><strong>Skills:</strong>&nbsp; Social, Technical<br><strong>Ethnicity/Age/Orientation:</strong>&nbsp; Caucasian, 20's, straight<br><strong>Tagged:</strong> <br><br><div class="codeheader">Code: <a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="return smfSelectText(this);" class="codeoperation">[Select]</a></div><pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"><code class="bbc_code">[floatleft][IMG height=200 padding=8]http://elliquiy.com/elluiki/images/2/2b/Cbuccino21-cropped.jpg[/IMG][/floatleft] <br>[b]Street Name:[/b] Angel<br>[b]Sex/Metatype/Archetype:[/b] Female Human Infiltration Specialist/Artist<br>[b]Attributes:[/b] Intuition and Logic, Agility and Reaction<br>[b]Skills:[/b]&nbsp; Social, Technical<br>[b]Ethnicity/Age/Orientation:[/b]&nbsp; Caucasian, 20's, straight<br>[b]Tagged:[/b] <br></code></pre><br><div class="floatleft">(http://elliquiy.com/elluiki/images/7/76/Victoria_deadlands.jpeg)</div> <br><strong>Street Name:</strong> One Shot<br><strong>Sex/Metatype/Archetype:</strong> Female Human Bounty Hunter<br><strong>Attributes:</strong> Agility and Reaction, Charisma and Willpower<br><strong>Skills:</strong>&nbsp; Combat, Social<br><strong>Ethnicity/Age/Orientation:</strong>&nbsp; Caucasian, 20's, straight<br><strong>Tagged:</strong> <br><br><div class="codeheader">Code: <a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="return smfSelectText(this);" class="codeoperation">[Select]</a></div><pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"><code class="bbc_code">[floatleft][IMG height=200 padding=8]http://elliquiy.com/elluiki/images/7/76/Victoria_deadlands.jpeg[/IMG][/floatleft] <br>[b]Street Name:[/b] One Shot<br>[b]Sex/Metatype/Archetype:[/b] Female Human Bounty Hunter<br>[b]Attributes:[/b] Agility and Reaction, Charisma and Willpower<br>[b]Skills:[/b]&nbsp; Combat, Social<br>[b]Ethnicity/Age/Orientation:[/b]&nbsp; Caucasian, 20's, straight<br>[b]Tagged:[/b] <br></code></pre><br><div class="floatleft">(http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/MzHyde/Character%20Portraits/Tilly2.jpg)</div> <br><strong>Street Name:</strong> Tracy Grimm<br><strong>Sex/Metatype/Archetype:</strong> Female Human Grifter<br><strong>Attributes:</strong> Charisma and Willpower, Agility and Reaction<br><strong>Skills:</strong>&nbsp; Social, Technical<br><strong>Ethnicity/Age/Orientation:</strong>&nbsp; Caucasian, 20's, bisexual<br><strong>Tagged:</strong> <br><br><div class="codeheader">Code: <a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="return smfSelectText(this);" class="codeoperation">[Select]</a></div><pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"><code class="bbc_code">[floatleft][IMG height=200 padding=8]http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/MzHyde/Character%20Portraits/Tilly2.jpg[/img][/floatleft] <br>[b]Street Name:[/b] Tracy Grimm<br>[b]Sex/Metatype/Archetype:[/b] Female Human Grifter<br>[b]Attributes:[/b] Charisma and Willpower, Agility and Reaction<br>[b]Skills:[/b]&nbsp; Social, Technical<br>[b]Ethnicity/Age/Orientation:[/b]&nbsp; Caucasian, 20's, bisexual<br>[b]Tagged:[/b] <br></code></pre><br><div class="floatleft">(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z466/Corvus269/Shadowrun/Shadowrun%20Images/Tara-GearedUp_zps7df21b01.jpg)</div> <br><strong>Street Name:</strong> Tempest<br><strong>Sex/Metatype/Archetype:</strong> Female Elf Street Samurai<br><strong>Attributes:</strong> Agility and Reaction, Body and Strength<br><strong>Skills:</strong>&nbsp; Combat, Technical<br><strong>Ethnicity/Age/Orientation:</strong>&nbsp; Caucasian, 20's, straight<br><strong>Tagged:</strong> <br><br><div class="codeheader">Code: <a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="return smfSelectText(this);" class="codeoperation">[Select]</a></div><pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"><code class="bbc_code">[floatleft][IMG height=200 padding=8]http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z466/Corvus269/Shadowrun/Shadowrun%20Images/Tara-GearedUp_zps7df21b01.jpg[/img][/floatleft] <br>[b]Street Name:[/b] Tempest<br>[b]Sex/Metatype/Archetype:[/b] Female Elf Street Samurai<br>[b]Attributes:[/b] Agility and Reaction, Body and Strength<br>[b]Skills:[/b]&nbsp; Combat, Technical<br>[b]Ethnicity/Age/Orientation:[/b]&nbsp; Caucasian, 20's, straight<br>[b]Tagged:[/b] <br></code></pre><br><div class="floatleft">(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z466/Corvus269/Shadowrun/Shadowrun%20Images/catch_zpsf9cf0739.jpg)</div> <br><strong>Street Name:</strong> Ms. Frost<br><strong>Sex/Metatype/Archetype:</strong> Female Elf Combat Hacker<br><strong>Attributes:</strong> Intuition and Logic, Agility and Reaction<br><strong>Skills:</strong>&nbsp; Technical, Physical<br><strong>Ethnicity/Age/Orientation:</strong>&nbsp; Native American and Japanese, 20's, bisexual<br><strong>Tagged:</strong> <br><br><div class="codeheader">Code: <a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="return smfSelectText(this);" class="codeoperation">[Select]</a></div><pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"><code class="bbc_code">[floatleft][IMG height=200 padding=8]http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z466/Corvus269/Shadowrun/Shadowrun%20Images/catch_zpsf9cf0739.jpg[/img][/floatleft] <br>[b]Street Name:[/b] Ms. Frost<br>[b]Sex/Metatype/Archetype:[/b] Female Elf Combat Hacker<br>[b]Attributes:[/b] Intuition and Logic, Agility and Reaction<br>[b]Skills:[/b]&nbsp; Technical, Physical<br>[b]Ethnicity/Age/Orientation:[/b]&nbsp; Native American and Japanese, 20's, bisexual<br>[b]Tagged:[/b] <br></code></pre><br><div class="floatleft">(http://elliquiy.com/elluiki/images/e/e1/CurvysScarlett.jpg)</div> <br><strong>Street Name:</strong> Fury (Scarlet Arn Atal'ai)<br><strong>Sex/Metatype/Archetype:</strong> Female Troll Mercenary<br><strong>Attributes:</strong> Body and Strength, Agility and Reaction<br><strong>Skills:</strong>&nbsp; Combat, Physical<br><strong>Ethnicity/Age/Orientation:</strong>&nbsp; Caucasian, 20's, straight<br><strong>Tagged:</strong><br><br><div class="codeheader">Code: <a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="return smfSelectText(this);" class="codeoperation">[Select]</a></div><pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"><code class="bbc_code">[floatleft][IMG height=200 padding=8]http://elliquiy.com/elluiki/images/e/e1/CurvysScarlett.jpg[/img][/floatleft] <br>[b]Street Name:[/b] Fury (Scarlet Arn Atal'ai)<br>[b]Sex/Metatype/Archetype:[/b] Female Troll Mercenary<br>[b]Attributes:[/b] Body and Strength, Agility and Reaction<br>[b]Skills:[/b]&nbsp; Combat, Physical<br>[b]Ethnicity/Age/Orientation:[/b]&nbsp; Caucasian, 20's, straight<br>[b]Tagged:[/b] <br></code></pre><br><div class="floatleft">(http://i2.listal.com/image/1148692/936full-matthew-rhys.jpg)</div> <br><strong>Street Name:</strong> Taylor<br><strong>Sex/Metatype/Archetype:</strong> Male Human Street Shaman<br><strong>Attributes:</strong> Charisma and Willpower, Intuition and Logic<br><strong>Skills:</strong>&nbsp; Magical, Social<br><strong>Ethnicity/Age/Orientation:</strong>&nbsp; Caucasian, 30's, straight<br><strong>Tagged:</strong> <br><br><div class="codeheader">Code: <a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="return smfSelectText(this);" class="codeoperation">[Select]</a></div><pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"><code class="bbc_code">[floatleft][IMG height=200 padding=8]http://i2.listal.com/image/1148692/936full-matthew-rhys.jpg[/img][/floatleft] <br>[b]Street Name:[/b] Taylor<br>[b]Sex/Metatype/Archetype:[/b] Male Human Street Shaman<br>[b]Attributes:[/b] Charisma and Willpower, Intuition and Logic<br>[b]Skills:[/b]&nbsp; Magical, Social<br>[b]Ethnicity/Age/Orientation:[/b]&nbsp; Caucasian, 30's, straight<br>[b]Tagged:[/b] <br></code></pre><br><div class="floatleft">(http://elliquiy.com/elluiki/images/4/48/Waltz.jpg)</div> <br><strong>Street Name:</strong> Waltz<br><strong>Sex/Metatype/Archetype:</strong> Male Human Bodyguard/Escort<br><strong>Attributes:</strong> Charisma and Willpower, Agility and Reaction<br><strong>Skills:</strong>&nbsp; Social, Combat<br><strong>Ethnicity/Age/Orientation:</strong>&nbsp; Caucasian, 30's, straight<br><strong>Tagged:</strong> <br><br><div class="codeheader">Code: <a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="return smfSelectText(this);" class="codeoperation">[Select]</a></div><pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"><code class="bbc_code">[floatleft][IMG height=200 padding=8]http://elliquiy.com/elluiki/images/4/48/Waltz.jpg[/img][/floatleft] <br>[b]Street Name:[/b] Waltz<br>[b]Sex/Metatype/Archetype:[/b] Male Human Bodyguard/Escort<br>[b]Attributes:[/b] Charisma and Willpower, Agility and Reaction<br>[b]Skills:[/b]&nbsp; Social, Combat<br>[b]Ethnicity/Age/Orientation:[/b]&nbsp; Caucasian, 30's, straight<br>[b]Tagged:[/b]<br></code></pre><br><div class="floatleft">(http://cdn.obsidianportal.com/images/82234/Male_Elf.jpg)</div> <br><strong>Street Name:</strong> Kit<br><strong>Sex/Metatype/Archetype:</strong> Male Elf <em>Bon Vivant</em> (Face/Wheelman)<br><strong>Attributes:</strong> Charisma and Willpower, Intuition and Logic<br><strong>Skills:</strong>&nbsp; Social, Vehicle<br><strong>Ethnicity/Age/Orientation:</strong>&nbsp; Caucasian, 20's, bisexual<br><strong>Tagged:</strong><br><br><div class="codeheader">Code: <a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="return smfSelectText(this);" class="codeoperation">[Select]</a></div><pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"><code class="bbc_code">[floatleft][IMG height=200 padding=8]http://cdn.obsidianportal.com/images/82234/Male_Elf.jpg[/img][/floatleft] <br>[b]Street Name:[/b] Kit<br>[b]Sex/Metatype/Archetype:[/b] Male Elf [i]Bon Vivant[/i] (Face/Wheelman)<br>[b]Attributes:[/b] Charisma and Willpower, Intuition and Logic<br>[b]Skills:[/b]&nbsp; Social, Vehicle<br>[b]Ethnicity/Age/Orientation:[/b]&nbsp; Caucasian, 20's, bisexual<br>[b]Tagged:[/b]<br></code></pre><br><div class="floatleft">(http://elliquiy.com/elluiki/images/6/64/Yande.re_76876_sample.jpg)</div> <br><strong>Street Name:</strong> ZZ<br><strong>Sex/Metatype/Archetype:</strong> Male Elf Physical Adept <br><strong>Attributes:</strong> Charisma and Willpower, Agility and Reaction<br><strong>Skills:</strong>&nbsp; Social, Combat<br><strong>Ethnicity/Age/Orientation:</strong>&nbsp; Asian/Polynesian, 20's, straight<br><strong>Tagged:</strong><br><br><div class="codeheader">Code: <a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="return smfSelectText(this);" class="codeoperation">[Select]</a></div><pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"><code class="bbc_code">[floatleft][IMG height=200 padding=8]http://elliquiy.com/elluiki/images/6/64/Yande.re_76876_sample.jpg[/img][/floatleft] <br>[b]Street Name:[/b] ZZ<br>[b]Sex/Metatype/Archetype:[/b] Male Elf Physical Adept <br>[b]Attributes:[/b] Charisma and Willpower, Agility and Reaction<br>[b]Skills:[/b]&nbsp; Social, Combat<br>[b]Ethnicity/Age/Orientation:[/b]&nbsp; Asian/Polynesian, 20's, straight<br>[b]Tagged:[/b]<br></code></pre>
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				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MzHyde</strong> on <strong>05-04-2013, 07:18:40</strong>
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				<div align="center">(http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/MzHyde/Character%20Portraits/TillySm_zps39cae143.jpg)</div><br>One more image of Tracy, just for some perspective on her normal attire and physical shape. 
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				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>05-04-2013, 23:44:27</strong>
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				Cool pic.<br><br>I hope everyone is having fun so far.&nbsp; Don't take Findley personally.&nbsp; It's okay for characters to not get along, but I do want the players to get along.<br><br>I like how it's going so far.&nbsp; Feedback is welcome and appreciated.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>CurvyKitten</strong> on <strong>06-04-2013, 01:01:05</strong>
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				Wow ok I see there is no posting order or waiting around here. I'll try and get a post up tonight, but if it keeps this pace I may just pull out to keep from getting lost in the shuffle. 
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				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>SatanKlaus</strong> on <strong>06-04-2013, 01:07:52</strong>
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				I guess the fundamental disagreement is the pay, and we probably should discuss it OOC because different Shadowrun groups handle this differently.<br><br>Some GMs pay out 2-5k for an average run, others pay 20-50k. With some, looting gear and anything else that is not nailed down is considered a necessary part of the runner life. Other groups like to focus on the one objective of the run. Some groups gloss over things like lifestyle costs, repairs and medical bills, other do tight book-keeping. Therefore, the pay-out from a run can mean anything from 'petty cash before selling the loot' to 'bottomline profit' to 'income before "taxes"'.<br><br>Also, power levels vary widely. 1k pay might be acceptable for a 'ganger' style group. It is a bad joke for ex-spec ops, whizkid hackers and wizards. I figure we are somewhere in between, not really professionals but far above gang level. But like I said, just how much the fee really is, depends on what we are expected to pay for with it and how much we can expect to make on the side. <br><br>The points of view vary widely in the shadowrun community but, personally, I think that even mid-tier runners 'don't get out of bed for less than 10k'. Because they have expenses, often big ones. Cars tend to get shot up or have to be abandoned and people need to be bribed. At less than 10k a run, the players are not on their way up, they are on their way down and losing more and more gear without being able to replace it. <br><br>There is also the fact that Shadowrunners are basically the rock stars of crime. They have professional skill levels, usually in several areas of expertise, along with cutting-edge equipment. If the pay is a measly 5k, why would they run the Shadows, which is far more dangerous than commiting some common crime like car theft or burglary? People with that level of skill can probably find a legal job that pays more than that a month.<br><br><br>At least, this is the point of view I (and I assume Tracy and One Shot as well) argued from. If the 1k are raw profits (meaning we don't pay lifestyle and repairs), or if we can easily sell stuff we loot from the lab, then things might look differently. (But considering that any lab - even today - that is worth the name has maybe 1 million worth in equipment lying around makes the 1k seem superfluous. An offer along the lines of 'I have the access codes, you get them for retrieving item XYZ for me and you can rob the place blind.' might actually seem more appealing than offering a pittance in cash. <br><br>So I guess what we need is an OOC guideline how much Shadowrunners tend to make and what their main source of income is, so that we can haggle on an informed basis. So far, I was assuming that 10-20k a head was the norm even for an <em>actually</em> easy job. Of course, there might be jobs below that level, but they require a few street punks or maybe a single operative, not a full team of Shadowrunners with magical and matrix support. <br><br>Satan_Klaus
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				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MzHyde</strong> on <strong>06-04-2013, 01:14:37</strong>
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				Well said. 
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				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>06-04-2013, 05:47:24</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8008223#msg8008223">Quote from: SatanKlaus on 06-04-2013, 01:07:52</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I guess the fundamental disagreement is the pay, and we probably should discuss it OOC because different Shadowrun groups handle this differently.<br><br>Some GMs pay out 2-5k for an average run, others pay 20-50k. With some, looting gear and anything else that is not nailed down is considered a necessary part of the runner life. Other groups like to focus on the one objective of the run. Some groups gloss over things like lifestyle costs, repairs and medical bills, other do tight book-keeping. Therefore, the pay-out from a run can mean anything from 'petty cash before selling the loot' to 'bottomline profit' to 'income before "taxes"'.<br><br>Also, power levels vary widely. 1k pay might be acceptable for a 'ganger' style group. It is a bad joke for ex-spec ops, whizkid hackers and wizards. I figure we are somewhere in between, not really professionals but far above gang level. But like I said, just how much the fee really is, depends on what we are expected to pay for with it and how much we can expect to make on the side. <br><br>The points of view vary widely in the shadowrun community but, personally, I think that even mid-tier runners 'don't get out of bed for less than 10k'. Because they have expenses, often big ones. Cars tend to get shot up or have to be abandoned and people need to be bribed. At less than 10k a run, the players are not on their way up, they are on their way down and losing more and more gear without being able to replace it. <br><br>There is also the fact that Shadowrunners are basically the rock stars of crime. They have professional skill levels, usually in several areas of expertise, along with cutting-edge equipment. If the pay is a measly 5k, why would they run the Shadows, which is far more dangerous than commiting some common crime like car theft or burglary? People with that level of skill can probably find a legal job that pays more than that a month.<br><br><br>At least, this is the point of view I (and I assume Tracy and One Shot as well) argued from. If the 1k are raw profits (meaning we don't pay lifestyle and repairs), or if we can easily sell stuff we loot from the lab, then things might look differently. (But considering that any lab - even today - that is worth the name has maybe 1 million worth in equipment lying around makes the 1k seem superfluous. An offer along the lines of 'I have the access codes, you get them for retrieving item XYZ for me and you can rob the place blind.' might actually seem more appealing than offering a pittance in cash. <br><br>So I guess what we need is an OOC guideline how much Shadowrunners tend to make and what their main source of income is, so that we can haggle on an informed basis. So far, I was assuming that 10-20k a head was the norm even for an <em>actually</em> easy job. Of course, there might be jobs below that level, but they require a few street punks or maybe a single operative, not a full team of Shadowrunners with magical and matrix support. <br><br>Satan_Klaus<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Good points.&nbsp; I actually didn't think about the payment too deeply.&nbsp; I have a 3rd Ed Shadowrun Companion that listed typical payments for easy versions, and a burglary was 1,000 so I went with that.&nbsp; I also read a sample narrative where the crew was doing a courier job for a 1,000 each but talked the johnson up to 1,400 each.<br><br>Here's a case of somewhat new runners on a run that is urgent but is planned and geared for them.&nbsp; My intent was to do a negotiation scene and then the run itself right away, skipping over legwork this time around.<br><br>In hindsight, I would have increased the payment, but let's go with it for now and there'll be bigger scores later.<br><br>
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				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>06-04-2013, 05:50:41</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8008197#msg8008197">Quote from: CurvyKitten on 06-04-2013, 01:01:05</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Wow ok I see there is no posting order or waiting around here. I'll try and get a post up tonight, but if it keeps this pace I may just pull out to keep from getting lost in the shuffle.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I'll slow it down but I do try to be responsive to more active players.&nbsp; <br><br>Don't feel the need to react to everything.&nbsp; Just react to the most recent thing.
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				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>CurvyKitten</strong> on <strong>06-04-2013, 06:14:20</strong>
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				It is just very frustrating when I have gone to post three times today and each time you or MzHyde have posted yet again. I feel kind of like the only thing I can do at this point is have Fury sit there and look stupid with everything is being talked about. Jade hasn't been able to post again yet either. It's one thing to stay active, a whole other when it's kind of make other feel rail roaded. Sorry for how this sounds, as I said I'm just feeling frustrated about having to delete and rewrite several times now. 
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				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MzHyde</strong> on <strong>06-04-2013, 06:30:17</strong>
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				Sorry, I just figured since it looked like Tracy was doing the negotiations it should be moving along. Besides, I had no real idea we had so many new players. 
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				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>06-04-2013, 06:40:30</strong>
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				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8009792#msg8009792">Quote from: CurvyKitten on 06-04-2013, 06:14:20</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">It is just very frustrating when I have gone to post three times today and each time you or MzHyde have posted yet again. I feel kind of like the only thing I can do at this point is have Fury sit there and look stupid with everything is being talked about. Jade hasn't been able to post again yet either. It's one thing to stay active, a whole other when it's kind of make other feel rail roaded. Sorry for how this sounds, as I said I'm just feeling frustrated about having to delete and rewrite several times now.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Sorry about that.<br><br>Fury doesn't have to sit there and look stupid.&nbsp; She could be keeping an eye out while she has thoughts of her own about the other runners and Findley, or about what's going on, or about something less related, like the negotiation reminding her of the way her brothers argued or something like that would describe her background to the other players reading your posts.<br><br>Don't delete and rewrite.&nbsp; Whatever you came up with at any point will have seemed relevant.&nbsp; Also, you don't have to write a lot.&nbsp; Smaller, more frequent posts work better.<br><br>I'll probably end up doing one post an evening after this weekend, so the rate will stabilize on my end.<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>07-04-2013, 04:53:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Question and answer time will continue until Sunday night.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MzHyde</strong> on <strong>07-04-2013, 05:19:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				That is some really specifically designed solvent. If it can be cut with a blade, couldn't they cut away the gel portion of the wall and push it off to the side or something? Or at least a portion big enough to crawl through. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>07-04-2013, 06:58:14</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8014040#msg8014040">Quote from: MzHyde on 07-04-2013, 05:19:58</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">That is some really specifically designed solvent. If it can be cut with a blade, couldn't they cut away the gel portion of the wall and push it off to the side or something? Or at least a portion big enough to crawl through.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>The wall is a really heavy slab of ferrocrete.&nbsp; It may become gelatinous, but it still has a similar mass.&nbsp; Moving it is not an option.&nbsp; There is no getting around needing a full can of solvent each way and needing to travel together.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>SatanKlaus</strong> on <strong>07-04-2013, 10:57:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8014391#msg8014391">Quote from: vin26m on 07-04-2013, 06:58:14</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">The wall is a really heavy slab of ferrocrete.&nbsp; It may become gelatinous, but it still has a similar mass.&nbsp; Moving it is not an option.&nbsp; There is no getting around needing a full can of solvent each way and needing to travel together.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Can't we just bring a pair of spades and, you know, <em>shovel</em> it out of the way while it is in its molten state?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>07-04-2013, 15:21:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8015015#msg8015015">Quote from: SatanKlaus on 07-04-2013, 10:57:50</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Can't we just bring a pair of spades and, you know, <em>shovel</em> it out of the way while it is in its molten state?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Nope.&nbsp; I am basically railroading you into going in together and coming out together.<br><br>If you could shovel it, then there would be a hole and that would open up the possibility of pursuit.<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Tamhansen</strong> on <strong>07-04-2013, 15:59:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm sensing a trap coming up. Or maybe I'm just paranoid. Or both :p
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>07-04-2013, 16:15:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8015526#msg8015526">Quote from: Katataban on 07-04-2013, 15:59:29</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'm sensing a trap coming up. Or maybe I'm just paranoid. Or both :p<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>No trap.&nbsp; Just forcing everyone to work together.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Tamhansen</strong> on <strong>07-04-2013, 16:29:25</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8015565#msg8015565">Quote from: vin26m on 07-04-2013, 16:15:09</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">No trap.&nbsp; Just forcing everyone to work together.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Good plan.<br><br>Well, my character has little choice but to cooperate really. Going off on his own will get him killed. Goes for most of us I guess
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MzHyde</strong> on <strong>07-04-2013, 17:18:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8015565#msg8015565">Quote from: vin26m on 07-04-2013, 16:15:09</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">No trap.&nbsp; Just forcing everyone to work together.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I don't think anyone mentioned working separately. I know I didn't.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Tamhansen</strong> on <strong>07-04-2013, 17:38:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8015778#msg8015778">Quote from: MzHyde on 07-04-2013, 17:18:08</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I don't think anyone mentioned working separately. I know I didn't.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Not when working together is so much more fun.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>SatanKlaus</strong> on <strong>07-04-2013, 18:10:12</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8015434#msg8015434">Quote from: vin26m on 07-04-2013, 15:21:12</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Nope.&nbsp; I am basically railroading you into going in together and coming out together.<br><br>If you could shovel it, then there would be a hole and that would open up the possibility of pursuit.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I guess I can see why you would want that plotwise. But it doesn't make much sense not to open a permanent hole. It takes five minutes for the stuff to work and another minute for each of us to pass through. That makes it about ten minutes during which we are trapped inside and cannot escape because the lab is underground and we don't know where the other exits are. Not to mention that during half the time, the team will be cut in two and the person wading through the gelatinous wall will be helpless. It is far safer to open the hole in the beginning, do the job and close it up again. Or just place explosives in the tunnel and collapse it if there is pursuit. <br><br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>07-04-2013, 19:06:13</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8015778#msg8015778">Quote from: MzHyde on 07-04-2013, 17:18:08</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I don't think anyone mentioned working separately. I know I didn't.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>It's true, no one mentioned it.&nbsp; I just wanted to eliminate it as an option before it was considered.<br><br>There will be a bit of splitting up.&nbsp; At least one person may have to stay behind with the vehicles, and they will have situations of their own to deal with.<br><br><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8015953#msg8015953">Quote from: SatanKlaus on 07-04-2013, 18:10:12</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I guess I can see why you would want that plotwise. But it doesn't make much sense not to open a permanent hole. It takes five minutes for the stuff to work and another minute for each of us to pass through. That makes it about ten minutes during which we are trapped inside and cannot escape because the lab is underground and we don't know where the other exits are. Not to mention that during half the time, the team will be cut in two and the person wading through the gelatinous wall will be helpless. It is far safer to open the hole in the beginning, do the job and close it up again. Or just place explosives in the tunnel and collapse it if there is pursuit.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>You're right, it doesn't make much sense.&nbsp; <br><br>But it doesn't make much sense for a can of a chemical to turn a man-sized chunk of <del>ferrocrete</del> steel-like material into something you can crawl through either.&nbsp; <br><br>So I'm going with the "you can't make it a permanent hole" shenanigan and I ask for some suspension of disbelief on the part of the players for that aspect.<br><br>I guess another way of thinking about it is that you're making, say, a two meter high by one meter wide by one meter thick block of steel-like material go from solid to gooey.&nbsp; That's two cubic meters.&nbsp; Steel is about 8,000 kg per cubic meter.&nbsp; So the block you'll be crawling through is pushing 16,000 kg, or over 35,000 pounds.&nbsp; That's... a lot of digging for a pair of spades.&nbsp; Better to just crawl through it while you can, and <del>argue about</del> coordinate the timing of entering and exiting.<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Tamhansen</strong> on <strong>07-04-2013, 21:17:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				How about the easy solution. No pun intended (well maybe a bit) The solution is not really a chemical, but in fact a mana infused material that makes the wall temporarily out of phase. Making it possible for matter to move through for a limited time. This would also be a good explanation for it's rarity. Just a thought.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>07-04-2013, 23:52:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8016710#msg8016710">Quote from: Katataban on 07-04-2013, 21:17:29</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">How about the easy solution. No pun intended (well maybe a bit) The solution is not really a chemical, but in fact a mana infused material that makes the wall temporarily out of phase. Making it possible for matter to move through for a limited time. This would also be a good explanation for it's rarity. Just a thought.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Interesting idea.&nbsp; I'm going to stick with the current pseudo-science version, though.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>SatanKlaus</strong> on <strong>08-04-2013, 00:12:38</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8016177#msg8016177">Quote from: vin26m on 07-04-2013, 19:06:13</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I guess another way of thinking about it is that you're making, say, a two meter high by one meter wide by one meter thick block of steel-like material go from solid to gooey.&nbsp; That's two cubic meters.&nbsp; Steel is about 8,000 kg per cubic meter.&nbsp; So the block you'll be crawling through is pushing 16,000 kg, or over 35,000 pounds.&nbsp; That's... a lot of digging for a pair of spades.&nbsp; Better to just crawl through it while you can, and <del>argue about</del> coordinate the timing of entering and exiting.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Well if you can cut it, then just cut it diagonally and it will simply slide down towards you. The hole doesn't have to be on ground level, and it certainly doesn't need to be 2x1 m. 30x50 cm should be enough for a man to pass through. If you can move through it, you can certainly remove it in some way that doesn't take much longer than 5 people wading through it one after the other. <br><br>But if you absolutely need it that way for plot reasons, then it's probably best if we just accept that that's how it works and that there is no way around it. Discussing it further won't get anything done. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>09-04-2013, 00:53:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Your points regarding the wall are valid, SK, and I appreciate you bringing them up.<br><br>Given the number of players, I've expanded the tasks that need to get done from just infiltration to infiltration (led by Ms. Frost) and distraction (with Taylor).<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MzHyde</strong> on <strong>09-04-2013, 01:46:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Tracy will volunteer to distract the guards. I'll post it when I get home.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Muse</strong> on <strong>09-04-2013, 08:09:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				&nbsp; *Pops up*&nbsp; &nbsp;Let's see how late I am.&nbsp; ^_^;;&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Blobbe</strong> on <strong>10-04-2013, 00:51:23</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				So far both the female NPCs are Bi and all the male ones are straight. Where are the straight female NPCs? Or the gay/bi male ones?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MzHyde</strong> on <strong>10-04-2013, 02:21:15</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm thinking this needs to be re-started, either with a smaller cast or a much larger mission. There's so many people here were never going to decide on a course of action, much less get to doing it. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>10-04-2013, 02:24:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8030458#msg8030458">Quote from: KaylaM on 10-04-2013, 00:51:23</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">So far both the female NPCs are Bi and all the male ones are straight. Where are the straight female NPCs? Or the gay/bi male ones?<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Frost is the only female NPC.&nbsp; She is bi.<br><br>Tracy is a female PC, also bi.<br><br>One Shot, Fury and Tempest are straight female PCs.<br><br>Taylor, Waltz and ZZ are straight males.&nbsp; Kit is a bi male.<br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>10-04-2013, 02:31:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8030953#msg8030953">Quote from: MzHyde on 10-04-2013, 02:21:15</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'm thinking this needs to be re-started, either with a smaller cast or a much larger mission. There's so many people here were never going to decide on a course of action, much less get to doing it.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I've split the whole cast of nine characters into two teams with two different, related objectives.&nbsp; It's basically two shadowruns now.&nbsp; <br><br>Muse was interested in RP with Kayla, so I put ZZ and Tempest on the same team.&nbsp; Also, Waltz had a thing for Fury, so they're also on the same team.&nbsp; The four of them are with Ms. Frost so I can GM them.<br><br>That leaves Taylor on the other team so I can GM the other team.&nbsp; Tracy is coming up with the distraction, so she's with Taylor.&nbsp; Taylor and One Shot have a history, and he'll want to keep her close.&nbsp; Kit's driving skills may be necessary, plus he's another social type.&nbsp; <br><br>I'll let you (MzHyde) come up with the distraction plan.&nbsp; Whatever you come up with WILL work spectacularly.&nbsp; Just try to incorporate the two other PCs, One Shot and Kit.&nbsp; The head guard is a bisexual male with a birthday.&nbsp; Maybe have Tracy and Kit pop out of a giant birthday cake?<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Blobbe</strong> on <strong>10-04-2013, 02:57:06</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8030979#msg8030979">Quote from: vin26m on 10-04-2013, 02:24:55</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Frost is the only female NPC.&nbsp; She is bi.<br><br>Tracy is a female PC, also bi.<br><br>One Shot, Fury and Tempest are straight female PCs.<br><br>Taylor, Waltz and ZZ are straight males.&nbsp; Kit is a bi male.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I was just talking among the NPC cast
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>10-04-2013, 03:10:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8031147#msg8031147">Quote from: KaylaM on 10-04-2013, 02:57:06</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I was just talking among the NPC cast<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I forgot about Catharine.<br><br>I'm into M/F and F/F action, but not M/M action.&nbsp; And since I'm playing the NPCs, they would be open to M/F or F/F only.<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MzHyde</strong> on <strong>10-04-2013, 03:13:36</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Tracy's plan was to get everyone suited in labcoats and dust masks with filters so they look like a biohazard team, then fast talk the guards into thinking there had been a leak of some odorless chemical, and having each person incapacitate one if the guards when they got close. That way there's no giant explosions, car crashes, or really outlandish things that make them stick out like a sore thumb and everything is quiet and easy. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MzHyde</strong> on <strong>10-04-2013, 03:17:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				To everyone; PLEASE stop putting words in my characters mouth! She NEVER said anything about violence OR seduction. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>SatanKlaus</strong> on <strong>10-04-2013, 10:32:59</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8031147#msg8031147">Quote from: KaylaM on 10-04-2013, 02:57:06</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I was just talking among the NPC cast<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Kayla, you have to respect the GM's ons&amp;offs, too. He may be playing 'everyone', but he is a player like the rest of us. <br><br><br><br>MzHyde has a point that we will never get anything done with 8 players wanting a say in everything. It might be a good idea to put the two teams in seperate threads, even for the planning stage, to reduce the chatter and 'cross-talk'. Might keep us more focused on the objective.<br><br>Satan_Klaus<br><br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>12-04-2013, 04:24:39</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8033524#msg8033524">Quote from: SatanKlaus on 10-04-2013, 10:32:59</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Kayla, you have to respect the GM's ons&amp;offs, too. He may be playing 'everyone', but he is a player like the rest of us. <br><br><br><br>MzHyde has a point that we will never get anything done with 8 players wanting a say in everything. It might be a good idea to put the two teams in seperate threads, even for the planning stage, to reduce the chatter and 'cross-talk'. Might keep us more focused on the objective.<br><br>Satan_Klaus<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Plans are set, but I plan on starting two new threads, one for each team, in a couple of days.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>CurvyKitten</strong> on <strong>12-04-2013, 04:39:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				If anyone wants to have something happened between Fury and their character before or after the run let me know. :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>SatanKlaus</strong> on <strong>12-04-2013, 09:53:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8044241#msg8044241">Quote from: CurvyKitten on 12-04-2013, 04:39:00</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">If anyone wants to have something happened between Fury and their character before or after the run let me know. :)<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I thought Waltz had made his intentions clear enough...<br><br>Not sure if there is time <em>before</em> the run, though.<br><br>Satan_Klaus
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>CurvyKitten</strong> on <strong>12-04-2013, 18:16:21</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8045496#msg8045496">Quote from: SatanKlaus on 12-04-2013, 09:53:44</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I thought Waltz had made his intentions clear enough...<br><br>Not sure if there is time <em>before</em> the run, though.<br><br>Satan_Klaus<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>hehe he might have...:P I just never assume what someone wants to have happened. Just didn't know if you want it to happen before the run or not. looks like they don't get to rp it out but just say...blah happened. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Muse</strong> on <strong>12-04-2013, 19:05:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				* Chuckles*&nbsp; What time of day did the meeting start again?&nbsp; <br><br>Could be time for all sorts of fun.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>SatanKlaus</strong> on <strong>12-04-2013, 20:02:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8047053#msg8047053">Quote from: Muse on 12-04-2013, 19:05:01</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">* Chuckles*&nbsp; What time of day did the meeting start again?&nbsp; <br><br>Could be time for all sorts of fun. <br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Metting started 7pm. So when the planning is done, it is maybe 8 or so. The run goes down around midnight. So there is time, but not all that much if you need to prepare gear or do some last-minute shopping. But certainly enough to get laid...<br><br>Satan_Klaus
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Muse</strong> on <strong>12-04-2013, 20:13:17</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				*chuckles*&nbsp; sadness.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>CurvyKitten</strong> on <strong>12-04-2013, 20:18:09</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8047370#msg8047370">Quote from: SatanKlaus on 12-04-2013, 20:02:58</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Metting started 7pm. So when the planning is done, it is maybe 8 or so. The run goes down around midnight. So there is time, but not all that much if you need to prepare gear or do some last-minute shopping. But certainly enough to get laid...<br><br>Satan_Klaus<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>lol Fury has all the gear she needs. And I have a feeling that Fury would see getting laid as a great way to warm up. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MzHyde</strong> on <strong>12-04-2013, 20:33:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Tracy's just going to gather supplies. Nothing interesting, so I won't bother posting her activity 'til the mission, unless someone has something in mind for her.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>13-04-2013, 14:45:55</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8046835#msg8046835">Quote from: CurvyKitten on 12-04-2013, 18:16:21</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">hehe he might have...:P I just never assume what someone wants to have happened. Just didn't know if you want it to happen before the run or not. looks like they don't get to rp it out but just say...blah happened.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>You can RP it out in another thread.&nbsp; Feel free to make one of your own.&nbsp; Maybe agree on the outcome ahead of time so that the result is established as I start the next part.<br><br>An alternative is doing flashbacks during "current" RP.&nbsp; For example, when they're going through the tunnel, each of them can replay the events in their minds.&nbsp; I was going to do something like that for Taylor and Ms. Frost's pre-game warmup.<br><br>I consider Waltz and Fury to be a pair, with Tempest and ZZ as another pair.&nbsp; One Shot, Tracy and Kit can get involved with each other or with Taylor or Frost, or not at all.&nbsp; Taylor and Frost are fuck buddies, but only when they are about to work together.<br><br>Since I'm going to set it up so that everyone can communicate with everyone else even when they're not physically with them, I think I'll just stick to one thread for now and see how it goes.&nbsp; I'm open to multiple threads later on.<br><br><br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Muse</strong> on <strong>14-04-2013, 16:24:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				&nbsp; I believe Kayla preferred that our character's relationship be more, 'friends with benefits.'&nbsp; (Don't want to block her if she has a chance for some fun.&nbsp; :)&nbsp; )
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>14-04-2013, 20:13:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8057106#msg8057106">Quote from: Muse on 14-04-2013, 16:24:35</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">&nbsp; I believe Kayla preferred that our character's relationship be more, 'friends with benefits.'&nbsp; (Don't want to block her if she has a chance for some fun.&nbsp; :)&nbsp; )<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I should have clarified that the pairs are not necessarily exclusive.&nbsp; There was interest for one or both players in each pair so I just thought of them as connected.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Jaded</strong> on <strong>18-04-2013, 04:06:57</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'll probably need to drop out due to computer issues, sorry.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>18-04-2013, 04:36:16</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Okay.<br><br>I'm busy with work today and tomorrow.&nbsp; I can't post until the weekend, so feel free to RP more before meeting the team for the shadowrun.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>CurvyKitten</strong> on <strong>19-04-2013, 04:45:37</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Been a heck of a week folks, sorry I took so long to respond SK. Hopefully my weekend is nicer to me. lol
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>SatanKlaus</strong> on <strong>19-04-2013, 17:15:27</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8081942#msg8081942">Quote from: CurvyKitten on 19-04-2013, 04:45:37</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Been a heck of a week folks, sorry I took so long to respond SK. Hopefully my weekend is nicer to me. lol<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>No problem. It hasn't been too long and the roleplay was slow anyway.<br><br>Vin told us to 'get a room', though. I think we should do that once we leave the club. So if you move the characters, make a new thread.<br><br>Satan_Klaus
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>20-04-2013, 17:20:01</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				And the shadowrun is on.<br><br>Let me know if the post works for you.&nbsp; Again, I want you to have your characters do and say cool stuff, so I hope my openings for you work well.<br><br>Couple of other things I'm interested in discussing:<br><br>Should I tweak the character generation rules a bit for more flexibility while still retaining simplicity?<br><br>For example, instead of picking the best pair of attributes and second best pair of attributes, just having each character rank their four best attributes.<br><br>Also, instead of picking two skill groups that character is really good at, having each character picking two skill groups and adding two skills not in those groups (so the Social/Technicals can get Pistols, or the Combat/Physicals can get Intimidation, or the Social/Combats can get Perception, etc.).<br><br>If you want to continue scenes, feel free to make a new thread.&nbsp; SK and CK can make a new thread for Waltz and Fury, Muse and KaylaM can make a new thread for ZZ and Tempest, etc.&nbsp; Don't ask me, just go ahead and do it if you want to!&nbsp; I'm all about you freely expressing and RP'ing your characters as you see fit.<br><br>Also, feel free to make prequel scenes.&nbsp; ZZ and Tempest know each other, so they could have a thread of how they met and what they've done together.<br><br>Players lost interest sometimes, and it's a reality I accept.&nbsp; How should I deal with them?&nbsp; Kill them off?&nbsp; NPC them until I can have them exit gracefully?<br><br>This is our game, I want everyone to have fun, I want everyone to have opportunities for the characters to be cool, I'm always open to suggestions.<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>20-04-2013, 17:24:00</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8083933#msg8083933">Quote from: SatanKlaus on 19-04-2013, 17:15:27</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">No problem. It hasn't been too long and the roleplay was slow anyway.<br><br>Vin told us to 'get a room', though. I think we should do that once we leave the club. So if you move the characters, make a new thread.<br><br>Satan_Klaus<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>At this point, I think a new thread is in order if you want to continue the scene with Waltz and Fury (which I hope you do).&nbsp; I think having threads based on location is kind of superficial.&nbsp; Threads should be based on which characters are participating, not where they happen to be.&nbsp; The run has started, so events that occurred before "current" events can be in their own thread.&nbsp; If you and Curvy can agree on the outcome (or just keep the outcome vague or just not mention the outcome), that would work for me.<br><br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Niki315</strong> on <strong>22-04-2013, 10:27:35</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Awww... I think I killed the thread....
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MzHyde</strong> on <strong>22-04-2013, 17:35:24</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Wonder where they all went.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Muse</strong> on <strong>23-04-2013, 13:59:08</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				&nbsp; I'm sick, on a diet, and in soda wtihdrawl.&nbsp; Please forgive my slow participation.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>23-04-2013, 18:12:33</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Great post, MzHyde.&nbsp; You even gave a great opening for the other characters on the distraction team.<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MzHyde</strong> on <strong>23-04-2013, 18:16:50</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Thanks. Looks like those four years at the Cirque Du Soleil Acting &amp; Corporate Infiltration Camp have not gone wasted.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>CurvyKitten</strong> on <strong>23-04-2013, 23:48:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8083933#msg8083933">Quote from: SatanKlaus on 19-04-2013, 17:15:27</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">No problem. It hasn't been too long and the roleplay was slow anyway.<br><br>Vin told us to 'get a room', though. I think we should do that once we leave the club. So if you move the characters, make a new thread.<br><br>Satan_Klaus<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Do you just want to move them along and start our own thread? She will let him lead in the dance and what happens in the club. She is feeling really out of place and would probably be grateful for a change in scenery. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>MzHyde</strong> on <strong>28-04-2013, 05:12:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Who's still active and posting?
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>28-04-2013, 06:20:07</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'll continue running the game with whoever wants to continue playing.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>SatanKlaus</strong> on <strong>28-04-2013, 09:53:11</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8107610#msg8107610">Quote from: CurvyKitten on 23-04-2013, 23:48:58</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Do you just want to move them along and start our own thread? She will let him lead in the dance and what happens in the club. She is feeling really out of place and would probably be grateful for a change in scenery.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Sorry for the delay. I got a new job and life was very hectic last week. I hope things flow more easily from now on.<br><br>I made us a thread: Milkrun and Honey (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=172502.msg8131461#msg8131461) and posted to it. <br><br>Vin said we should negotiate an 'outcome' for the encounter in advance so we know how to interact in the main thread. What do you think will come of it? Deep resentment? A relationship? A D/s relationship? Personally, I think its more of a one-night stand, albeit with the option for more. They didn't have time to really get to know each other.<br><br><br>Satan_Klaus
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Niki315</strong> on <strong>28-04-2013, 10:00:42</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I'm still active and ready to post again!
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>CurvyKitten</strong> on <strong>28-04-2013, 21:40:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8131510#msg8131510">Quote from: SatanKlaus on 28-04-2013, 09:53:11</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Sorry for the delay. I got a new job and life was very hectic last week. I hope things flow more easily from now on.<br><br>I made us a thread: Milkrun and Honey (http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=172502.msg8131461#msg8131461) and posted to it. <br><br>Vin said we should negotiate an 'outcome' for the encounter in advance so we know how to interact in the main thread. What do you think will come of it? Deep resentment? A relationship? A D/s relationship? Personally, I think its more of a one-night stand, albeit with the option for more. They didn't have time to really get to know each other.<br><br><br>Satan_Klaus<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>They did hook up, she probably expects it is only a one night stand. So if he actually comes to see her again is partly up to you as well. She actually lets him take the lead, but he can tell she is having to control herself and not flip it. Not used to letting someone else have control, and it is the first date after all. :P<br><br>&nbsp;Though there are moments when he could tell she does let go and lets it happen. Things&nbsp; like her nearly breathless pleading for him not to stop and so forth. Hopefully I am making sense. lol <br><br>I will get a post up to both threads today. Working on catching up now. :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>CurvyKitten</strong> on <strong>03-05-2013, 01:41:28</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Sorry I haven't gotten back to SK. Just got a new job and the past few days have been busy, I am trying to catch up tonight and tomorrow morning. Again sorry. 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>CurvyKitten</strong> on <strong>05-05-2013, 21:39:45</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Fury groaned inwardly, "I have to get in the monkey suit again....damn it."LOL
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>05-05-2013, 21:48:46</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Great IC post, SatanKlaus.<br><br>Now that the first run is concluded, who is interested in continuing?<br><br>What kind of stuff do you want to happen?&nbsp; Whatever run we do, it would be one in which the group's abilities are all used.&nbsp; If everyone has social skills, it will be a social heavy game.<br><br>Do you want something that would fit into Light, Bondage, NC or Extreme?<br><br>Should I open up the game to new characters for current players?&nbsp; Would current players want to play more than one character?&nbsp; Or a different character entirely?<br><br>Should I open up the game to new players?<br><br>Should I come up with adjusted, slightly more complicated character generation rules so that everyone can adjust their characters accordingly?<br><br>What did you like or not like about that first run?<br><br>Would you want to play as a DocWagon team (shadowrunners posing as a DocWagon team to figure something out within the DocWagon organization)?<br><br>Would you want to travel to another setting outside of Seattle?<br><br>
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>CurvyKitten</strong> on <strong>05-05-2013, 23:20:34</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<strong><br>Now that the first run is concluded, who is interested in continuing?</strong><br>I am still around and interested in continuing. <br><br><strong>What kind of stuff do you want to happen?&nbsp; Whatever run we do, it would be one in which the group's abilities are all used.&nbsp; If everyone has social skills, it will be a social heavy game.</strong><br>Maybe a chance for Fury to be able to show her stuff as well. Even if it means getting into a scrap or two to do it. lol She isn't really anything more then cute muscle at the moment. <br><strong><br>Do you want something that would fit into Light, Bondage, NC or Extreme?</strong><br>I am open to any style really, as long as it all makes sense within the story I'm good. Though good like trying to force Fury to do anything she doesn't really want to lol. <br><br><strong>Should I open up the game to new characters for current players?&nbsp; Would current players want to play more than one character?&nbsp; Or a different character entirely? Should I open up the game to new players?</strong><br>Well it seems we have lost a few players, so getting some that would actually stick around would be good. But I am willing to simply make another character. I'm sure my muse could come up with something lol. Though I like Fury and would like to keep playing with her as well. <br><strong><br>Should I come up with adjusted, slightly more complicated character generation rules so that everyone can adjust their characters accordingly?</strong><br>I like the sheets the way they are, making them to overly complicated could just kill the game. Maybe after a few runs we can simply say that you may chose an extra trait or special talent or something?<br><strong><br>What did you like or not like about that first run?</strong><br>That we seemed to lose so many people, and that there were to many chiefs and not enough Indians at one point LOL. <br><br><strong>Would you want to play as a DocWagon team (shadowrunners posing as a DocWagon team to figure something out within the DocWagon organization)?</strong><br>Possible idea, maybe the team posses as one to get a hold of someone?<br><br><strong>Would you want to travel to another setting outside of Seattle?</strong><br>I'm all for travel. :)
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>SatanKlaus</strong> on <strong>06-05-2013, 00:43:44</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<strong>Great IC post, SatanKlaus.</strong><br>Thanks!<br><br><strong>Now that the first run is concluded, who is interested in continuing?</strong><br>Waltz is in.<br><br><strong>What kind of stuff do you want to happen?&nbsp; Whatever run we do, it would be one in which the group's abilities are all used.&nbsp; If everyone has social skills, it will be a social heavy game.</strong><br>Really no preference. I can adapt. <br><br><strong>Do you want something that would fit into Light, Bondage, NC or Extreme?</strong><br>Generally the NC category. But I like how the game is actually story-driven, so the sex part doesn't have to be central to the story. It can be, though, if you have a good porn-plot (no sarcasm!) ready. <br><br><strong>Should I open up the game to new characters for current players?&nbsp; Would current players want to play more than one character?&nbsp; Or a different character entirely?</strong><br>I will stick with Waltz. I think he is an interesting character.<br><br><strong>Should I open up the game to new players?</strong><br>It really depends on how many players stay. To be honest, the group was far too big for one team last time. So good call with the split. <br><br><strong>Should I come up with adjusted, slightly more complicated character generation rules so that everyone can adjust their characters accordingly?</strong><br>I think keeping it simple works best. Shadowrun rules are too complicated to play, so its best to keep it very simple because the middle ground might be weird.<br>The only thing I would ask is not to group the attributes. Some combinations seem arbitrary. So I would prefer 'pick 2 great attributes and 2 decent ones and the rest will be low' instead of 1 excellent group and 1 high groups. <br><br><strong>What did you like or not like about that first run?</strong><br>All planning no action. Then again, that's how it always is in the tabletop as well. And in real life, too, if things go as planned. <br><br><strong>Would you want to play as a DocWagon team (shadowrunners posing as a DocWagon team to figure something out within the DocWagon organization)?</strong><br>Wouldn't be my first choice for a run, but I could work with it.<br><br><strong>Would you want to travel to another setting outside of Seattle?</strong><br>Seattle is fine. Somewhere else is good, too.<br>
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>SatanKlaus</strong> on <strong>12-05-2013, 13:50:35</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Is it just me and Fury who are left?<br><br>Satan_Klaus
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Blobbe</strong> on <strong>12-05-2013, 14:41:49</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				Seems to be the case.
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>12-05-2013, 14:50:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8212698#msg8212698">Quote from: SatanKlaus on 12-05-2013, 13:50:35</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Is it just me and Fury who are left?<br><br>Satan_Klaus<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>I am willing to run the game with just Waltz and Fury.<br><br>I am currently sidetracked with other games, but I will get back to you two soon.<br><br>I like that you still have your solo thread going.<br><br>
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Niki315</strong> on <strong>15-05-2013, 05:41:28</strong>
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			<dd class="postbody">
				Um.. I'm still here.&nbsp; Sorry for the long wait and the crappy post.&nbsp; I literally kept coming back to the post wanting to add more and only added like three lines to the end... &gt;.&gt;&nbsp; I'll get back in gear soon.&nbsp; 
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>SatanKlaus</strong> on <strong>12-06-2013, 12:43:52</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8212823#msg8212823">Quote from: vin26m on 12-05-2013, 14:50:58</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I am willing to run the game with just Waltz and Fury.<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>We finished our 'intimate encounter'. <br><br>There hasn't been any activity outside our thread, though. Is anyone still interested or is it down to Fury and waltz?<br><br>Satan_Klaus
			</dd>
			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>Blobbe</strong> on <strong>12-06-2013, 13:25:29</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170110.msg8384093#msg8384093">Quote from: SatanKlaus on 12-06-2013, 12:43:52</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">We finished our 'intimate encounter'. <br><br>There hasn't been any activity outside our thread, though. Is anyone still interested or is it down to Fury and waltz?<br><br>Satan_Klaus<br></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br>Given that the thread's a month without activity, I think it's safe to say that it's dead
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			<dt class="postheader">
				Title: <strong>Re: Shadowrun: Milk Run (Out of Character, Plot-Related only)</strong><br>
				Post by: <strong>vin26m</strong> on <strong>12-06-2013, 13:47:58</strong>
			</dt>
			<dd class="postbody">
				I plan on starting another run in the next couple of weeks.<br><br>If anyone is still interested, please post here.
			</dd>
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