Hi,<br/><br/>Well, I can<span style="font-style: italic">guarentee</span>Jules isn't cheating because his alchemist character wasn't synergising very well with the party, and he and I came up with his new character together... and I'm the one who generated those statistics. So, yeah, if there's a mistake its on me. In fact I don't think there is though... math follows<br/><div style="padding: 3px; background-color: #FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #d8d8d8; font-size: 1em;"><div style="text-transform: uppercase; border-bottom: 1px solid #CCCCCC; margin-bottom: 3px; font-size: 0.8em; font-weight: bold; display: block;"><span onclick="if (this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display != '') {  this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display = ''; this.innerHTML = '&lt;b&gt;Spoiler: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;a href=\'#\' onClick=\'return false;\'&gt;hide&lt;/a&gt;'; } else { this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display = 'none'; this.innerHTML = '&lt;b&gt;Spoiler: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;a href=\'#\' onClick=\'return false;\'&gt;show&lt;/a&gt;'; }"><b>Spoiler: </b><a href="#" onclick="return false;">show</a></span></div><div class="quotecontent"><div style="display: none;">his current is<br/>24, 18, 10, 12, 10, 10<br/>so it would've been<br/>21, 18, 10, 12, 10, 10<br/>at first level. Since everyone else got to spend 13RP instead of the human standard, I made him an edited version of a human with a floating +2, +2 and an additional +2 to STR (also trading the floating bonus feat to a fixed bonus feat to afford this, since I don't imagine anyone built a character paying 4RP for a floating feat when its allowed to pick a specific bonus feat for 2RP). Which gets us to<br/>17, 16, 10, 12, 10, 10<br/>which is<br/>13, 10, 0, 2, 0,0 = 25<br/>so its okay!</div></div></div><br/>although I'm not at all surprised that this cannot be duplicated with herolab or similar...