<blockquote><div><cite>HungryCentaur wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Geno wrote:</cite>{{EDIT: Garz mentioned that he thinks we should keep the grapple bonuses for the stomach, but also use a lower number like I was thinking. He says that otherwise, it would mean weak prey could escape strong pred's stomachs 1/4 of the time. I agree with him that something like that is too ridiculous. I just think using the grapple score is odd. We could do it for simplicity, though.}}</div></blockquote><br/><br/>{{Why is the grapple score not a good value to use? It is your BAB (how much experience you have had at fighting, including keeping prey down) + your strength (how strong the muscles around the entrance to the stomach) + size modifier (larger should have bonus?) }}</div></blockquote><br/><br/>{{Because being experienced in battle doesn't help keep food in your stomach. It's more of a one-sided affair at that point, and the determining factor for escape should be the prey's strength. The pred cannot work their stomach muscles like they can work their throat or their mouth. But I guess since the throat phase may be dropped, the prey is technically escaping the stomach and throat. Like I said, though, we could just keep it simple and use the grapple score since it's used for the rest of the process.}}