(( Oh and just sat down and read your note about casting defencively - Im gonna sit down and tryn beat these spell caster rules in my head, Its all new to me and this is the first spell caster ive ever played - so, safince to say im a bit over welmed - I though concentration check was required, not optional. im still shaky exactly what your trying to tell me so... arg *starts reading spellcasting chapter*))