mel: *growls louder* "They claimed that they did this to me because it was out of their control - because they had to and that they didn't want to - The words are different but the meaning is the same: It's always the same! And what about those people you stole from - the people who bought donuts legally - the people who you hurt without even knowing you've hurt them: no one ever cares about the consenquenses of their actions - I ended up with a stomach that was never truely full because ' I had to'"