<span style="color: #003366">"Athena and Vess have a fraction of the power the new Ophidian and Zelina have and they have lost just as much. i would be more concerned about their presence if he hadn't gone out of his way to try to help us... he may have failed to make true progress with Karrie but he did more to try then anyone else ever managed with her and he did save Amere from killing her baby." </span><div class="messageTextEndMarker"> </div>