Thorgan had seen the structures the dwarves had built for humans, but he had never been in a city of theirs before. It was magnificent and the archeticture was beyond anything he had seen before. Flagdon told him the city went deep into the mountain and below as well to the mines where rich veins of gold and silver ore lay along with precious gems. Haldir and Allassiel talked of other cities and places of the Dwarfs in the west. They had seen much more then he had and what he saw was awe inspriring. The Dwarfs knew how to build and how to build to last for for centuries. He walked and listened as the others talked and he could see that their two small companions were as awe struck as he was. They had evidently not seen anything like they were seeing.<br/><br/>Once they were in the Palace and before the King of the Dwarfs of the kingdom he let the others talk. It seemed they had dealt with Dwarfs before. Especially when it came to the Orcs that Flagdon's cousin had talked about. It seemed that there were alot more of them then those that they had run into. Evidently more had come, perhaps summoned some how. They knew more about them then he did, even though he had fought them and knew what they were capable of. Lotharn began to explain about the new threat. "The Orcs that come from Mordor to the west were Suron's main fighting force. They were Originally once Elves, tortured and broken and turned into the foul creatures. Later they were created, somehow, perhaps through magic. There were thousands of them and they will fight until they are dead, even though at times they are frightened, but not by much they are fierce fighters and powerful ones as well. We fought them at Helms Deep, a fortress that had withstood many sieges and they broke through. At Gondor they smashed through the city gates and almost took the city. Had it not been for the Rohan and the King and the allies he had found, the city would have fallen. Make no mistake, they will find a way in. The kingdom of Moria was attacked by them and the Dwarfs there defeated and killed. If there is a way, they will find it and no one will be safe. "<br/><br/>Then Thorgan spoke. "I have fought them and know that they are not to be under estimated. They have now joined up with Morgan and his undead army. They hope to free the Evil One and once again unleash the undead that is trapped in the Valley of Death and the Citidal of Evil. The first of the keystones has returned and the second has been found. We search for the third one, the one that was given to the Dwarfs. We seek information on the one that it was given to and where he might have gone to hide it. We know it is to the south, perhaps beyond the coast out into the sea itself."<br/><br/>The king listened and then asked. "So you intend to try and free the Farmer. Why? It will also free the Evil One and another war of the Undead will begin. Morgan and his army of undead can be dealt with, why unleash those in the Valley of Death. Why start another war to free one man?"