仏教徒以外の人がこれらのステップで得た最も遠い人は何ですか？また、私のような平均的な人がその時点に到達するのにどれくらい時間がかかりますか？
What is the furthest anyone other than the Buddhist has gotten in these steps? Also, How long would it take for an average person such as myself to get to that point?