 Well, I mean make sure you like over by the way, but I'm gonna try yeah, make sure you know You don't be an idiot. It'll probably be more interesting to work Maybe I can try to recruit people while I'm there. I'll just like get a sign sit on the side of the road be like Need developers, please help If you know JavaScript specifically angular Welcome to the WAN show you guys Before the show and then we usually try to do lunch once a week But we missed last week and I think we missed the week before yeah, this is the only time Luke and I talked to each other anymore so like Yeah, you'll have to forgive us Honestly, it doesn't account for all of it part of it Is that I was reviewing a script with Taryn before this and I was doing that late because I was building a machine with one Of our ROG rig reboot winners right before that pretty banging machine. Did you see it looks really nice? Yeah, I didn't like really inspect it, but it looks really nice for 7700 K 32 gigs RAM RGB up the butt 1080 Ti Strix. Yeah 165 Hertz monitor Basically as good as I would ever recommend awesome like anything beyond that you're like kind of dumb like for gaming really really intense Diminishing returns. Yeah. Yeah, or you or you do literally worse. Yeah, unless you do something else. Yeah So so yeah, we were just chatting about flow plane Luke is leaving the country. Yep So you know not permanently no one here will notice. Yeah What will they notice They'll notice your car not in the parking. Ah, yeah, maybe yeah, that's about it Yeah, now that you have that like hidden away the furthest away from any entrance office as far as I know Yeah, like the most awkward you would only go there if you were going to my office possible location And then I entered not from the main entrance now and my really well I enter from that side What I just do like a really quick loop. Yep, basically your private stairwell. Yeah So anyway, Dennis was Dennis just mentioned before the show that he's seen me like ten times this year Dennis I think I'm less in focus now I Think so we have a we have a mom so well while you're getting that in focus. Yeah. Hi mom. Oh I'm good I miss you too. This is probably the point where she mentions that I also don't see my mom I'm not sending him anywhere unsafe. It's okay. Oh, I don't know if she knows that I'm going To the country. Yeah, I was just checking It's not like Somalia no, it's fine. Yeah So you are sending him somewhere well, I'm sending myself. Yeah. Yeah Like he's the CEO of that company and he made an executive decision that he needed to have a meeting out of the country and Informed me that he was going. Yeah It sounds very much to me like Linus is working super super hard to Direct me in a different direction away from himself and that something is going on that I should be very concerned about That's pretty conspiracy theory No, this is completely my idea I'm going to Sweden so like it's not like I don't want to go there Um, and I'm visiting a guy that I've known for a long time and we're gonna work on some flow plane stuff Right, I did sort of forget that part I'm also leaving tomorrow haven't booked my ticket yet What it's fine who's able to get it? He's getting mothered on both sides right now, by the way Just so you know, I'm with you on this It'll work it'll be fine. Yeah. Yeah I have a place to stay that I can't really do tell but I do have a place to stay this time I have traveled without a place to stay before this is an improvement Yeah All right, well, thank you for calling in it's always a pleasure All right, all right All right, so we've got a great show for you guys today Intel's 18 core high-end desktop die has been pictured the iPhone 8 is rumored to cost more due to Samsung's control of OLED display supply Apparently we're putting a headphone jack back into the iPhone 7. Well, we're not but some guys Oh, this is the same guy. I believe that like built his own iPhone out of a whole bunch of little components So do you hear about that? Okay, I believe this is the same guy So he went to China and went to like the little shops that had little like individual iPhone components And he built his whole own one that like works and stuff and like the touch ID and everything functions. Really? It's pretty cool It's it's took him months, but then he was like traveling in and out because he was like working there and doing all this stuff And he's doing it just like over time on the side. It's a really cool video series It's quite a long video, but it's really interesting I believe this is the same guy, but I'm not 100% certain and then AMD Vega 11 enters production Intro time. Oh, oh, I'm gonna use a stream deck stream deck Didn't work What Billy I? Tested this last didn't work again. Are you wait? Wait, wait, wait. I love it Are you using the are you using the I'm not using anything? Uh, hold on. Hold on Are you using the exploit blog for broadcaster PTR? I don't think so. I didn't watch this Oh, we have to use the public test release if we want Yeah, I didn't watch this. It was already set up when I got here. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so just to talk about Yeah, look Those there's only two views Yeah Mac Weldon No, I didn't put on the shirt before the show. I'm gonna have to change into it and risk a nip slip. Oh My dang it. I'll body block you Which is twitch's terms of service are gonna be the end of me. Yeah. Oh Right damn nipple equality. Oh Wait, hold on. Yeah, ah and we're back. Oh man, I Am excited for today's show for one reason and that is that I didn't do the okay so I think I figured it out it's when we put the computer to sleep and Wake it back up with X Blitz still running that the the capture cards Don't die so I have solved the mystery. Okay the camera just no no, that's fine. It's fine It'll come back. That one's already working though. Hold on You can tell which one the camera one is by the way it is everything's amazing. Oh, yeah, I guess I could have done that Okay, so our first topic was posted by The Benjamins on the forum and the original article here is from hexes net famous overclocker der bauer You know what? I think der bauer does so well even though professional overclockers Generally are like really well known within the professional overclocking community. So basically like it's a big circle circle congratulation I Have to use it I think the reason that he has kind of broken out into the mainstream is the guys got a personality He does I've met him. He's cool. Yeah, well, I haven't met him, but I like his videos Yeah, like he's actually super cool. I ran into him at Computex and he's roasted us before and I still like his videos really I didn't even know that like YouTube tech reviewers All right, I was like right right Roman. Let's talk Am I included with YouTube tech reviewers You might be I don't review anything anymore. Oh, I mean if you think about it I mean, there's still like graphs and that's opinions in our videos Which is like a form. That's okay. I'm over it. Okay, so right here On the left is the 7900 X. So this is the 10 core Core i9 and on the right is the utterly massive 18 core die of the upcoming 79 20 X So there's a couple of takeaways here number one is that in case you were wondering 18 cores means a bigger die than 10 cores Which will hopefully have at least some positive effect on our ability to cool this bloody thing Because we actually have a video coming on delidding Intel processors that's coming really soon. We do know the stream and the high-end nice So we we stripped down to 7900 X because we can almost did it for nope can't talk about it. I Don't even know about this but didn't oh Yeah, wait what never mind. Oh move on Continue Okay Where was I going with this right so we know that it's bigger which will hopefully help us move heat away from it because hopefully the the heat Density won't be any higher So if we just put a really powerful cooler on it that's got a an enormous cooling plate then Maybe we'll be okay And it also tells us based on that. That's a shiny clean die that Intel is still using An easy to clean thermal interface material rather than soldering the die So as some of you probably know AMD is soldering the dies on their Ryzen and thread ripper chips. I do Still intend to try to deal at a thread ripper. It should theoretically be possible Because did you see the vanity thread rippers that they provided to youtubers and and influencers? So it's a thread ripper chip with Your publication name. Oh lasered into the top. Yeah, so but it doesn't work Well, I want it to work, so you're gonna take that off and swap with it. That's cool So yeah, that's gonna be a video project sometime in the next little bit. What's the what's the theory? The theory hypothesis how are you gonna go about this? So I plan to do it the same way that I did the qx6700 way back in the day Okay, so what I did was I carefully and I'm gonna use the dead one to investigate how well it works Because what do I have to lose? It's a dead one yeah, so I'll cut the seal all around it And so you just had to be really careful that you didn't go too deep with the razor blade So you don't cut off a resistor or something yeah, then what I did was I just put some thermal paste on it Put it onto a pot and then put the pot on a hot element on the stove Okay, that way as soon as the solder gets hot enough It'll release the heat It'll release and you can just pop it off and get it away from the hot element so that way you don't heat it up Any more than you have to and also you don't heat up any part of the chip that you don't have to Yeah, any more than you have to make sense because I was thinking you're gonna have to heat it in some way And I was worried that you'd fry it that way I Yeah, so the qx6700 that I did back in the day did survive And then the way that I got the solder off was actually just with a plastic scraping tool And a lot of patience, so that's that's my plan, and we'll see if it works Maybe twitch chat is telling me about how it's not gonna work In the dashboard it's just full of people getting timeouts, so maybe I'll have to go to the public view To see the actual twitch chat Yeah, hopefully I can hit the pause button before you we get an echo apparently people are pretty pretty roasted about how out of focus We are right now Don't know what's the oh damn. Oh damn Colton's gonna come in and try and do it twice Oh, you look out of focus. I don't know about myself. I just look shiny about the same okay Tell you what tell you what just for you guys. We're gonna pause the show. We're gonna okay Colton Colton The the the wheel on the front what are you doing the lens? Okay, let's do it. Let's do it okay, okay? No worse ask a ve I'd love to we tried to contact him okay other way he was like me Other way Not quite no too far That oh a little bit yeah, that's not looks good Still I mean we're like right up against this now anyways. It's actually still yeah, it's really soft Yeah, I don't even get this like where are we in focus? I think it's like way up here Okay, you got to come further back this way come on back Yeah, it's like here My hand is nice there and focus too far Well, that's not better. Okay. Let's go with that. Let's go with that all right all right Okay, cool, so what else do we know about no depth of field focus different things? What I was saying was we could get one with a wider one So that it seems like we're more in focus more often because the focus is a constant problem Yeah, so we could we could turn less apertures and then Deeper depth yeah a focus field okay the iPhone 8 will apparently cost more because Samsung is controlling OLED supply also There will apparently be no touch ID Due to 3d touch so this was posted by red round 2 on the forum and the original article here is from 9 to 5 Mac what I want to know 9 to 5 Mac is why you guys aren't willing to put in the extra hours Typical employer question look at these guys. Yeah, they even want to be paid for their lunch They only work eight actual hours, so they probably take a half hour lunch. They probably take two 15 minute smoke breaks Come on you guys Smoking is disappointing you're disappointing me here. You're disappointing me here, okay You're disappointing me here. You're disappointing me here, okay? So let's go ahead and run through Run through what we got here, so it's the new iPhones display is expected to include a flexible OLED panel and OLED touch panel a 3d touch mono module and an OLED panel module, but Samsung will be responsible for providing each OLED part with the only exception in the stack being the 3d touch module So normally Apple will leverage multiple suppliers This helps keep costs low and they've even gone as far as to use both TSMC and global foundries to our wait is it TSMC and global foundries or was it were they using Samsung as a fab? They've used multiple fabs for their actual like compute ships. Sorry. It's TSMC and Samsung Have they ever made a chip in global foundries? Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah No makes last-minute decision to use TSMC for 30% of a nine chip Facing poor yield rates from chip maker global foundries to solidify its chain etc A Samsung global foundries to produce 14 okay, so it looks like whatever the point is they've gone as far as to dual source even the CPUs In their phones, which is pretty ballsy not that many people do that which is super Ballsy because even if you make the same CPU at the same process node Samsung's Intel's global foundries TSMC's all of their technology even on the same node is going to be slightly different With different characteristics, so one might consume more power one might clock a little higher one might Do both one might do neither you never actually know until you've actually got silicon in hand What some of the quirks of a manufacturing process will be so in this case? They are not able to take advantage of an additional supplier And it looks like oh the sorry it looks like the OLED unit is estimated to cost 120 to 130 Dollars per screen versus the 45 to 55 dollar per unit cost of LCD panels Oh, you think it was gonna care? Do you think anyone that buys iPhones consistently? It has been for a while is gonna care. It's a hundred dollars more yeah um You know let me think for a second because Okay, someone will care how much of an impact you think it'll make with the amount of whinging that I've seen over the Galaxy Note 8's price Which is actually about a hundred dollars more than an s8 plus And for your hundred dollars you get a stylus I Okay, my point here though is that it's Apple customers instead of Samsung customers That's fair, but I would argue that a note customer is Pretty close to an Apple customer pretty close to an Apple customer Because I think the note customer is locked into into a way of using the device that goes beyond Android right because there's a feature that is literally not on something else that they value yeah, and so You know I I don't think for a hundred dollars that It's that big of a deal, but there were a lot of people who were pretty butthurt now Oh, actually I wanted to address another quick thing about the note 8 video some people were upset that I was That I was freaking out about the 200 milliamp hour smaller battery on the note 8 versus the s8 plus Saying that the note 8 gets better battery life than the s8 plus to that I would say yeah that may be sure that may be true for now, but you also have to remember that the note 8 also has I Can't remember they don't call it touch was anymore, but whatever Samsung's you buy is yeah the note 8 also has Touch whiz features that the s8 plus doesn't have Because it gets a new version of the software the fact that they're running the same CPU with Actually, I believe the note 8 has more ram depending on the Storage version of the s8 plus right don't quote me on that one, but but basically there's nothing about The s8 plus that consumes more power than the note 8 has a smaller display marginally so There will be a difference even if there isn't today even if at launch Samsung is Positioning the note 8 as having better battery life so the chap all capital letters quoting you on that one That's okay. You go ahead I'm ready for the rage Linus is this panel cracked? What the crap just happened I Think my screen is scratched that sucks. I really like this laptop Damn, okay, I'm sad where I don't see oh Like it just looks like a little hair on there, but it's not Not really sucks, okay, so it's not gonna show up in camera very well so backs back to your question Do I think that the hundred dollar so I wouldn't have? Okay, unless you had seen that except that people were so upset about the extra hundred dollars for the note 8 That's fair I think I don't think it's gonna affect a lot of purchasing decisions, but it might hurt some fanboy mentality I Don't know the Apple fan behaves a little differently They do then the typical fan like they they tend to defend apples need to make a profit on their devices they tend to defend the Sort of disparity between Apple's changing though and their pricing You're totally right, and I don't think it's completely changed, but it's been changing a little bit I don't I don't feel like people would just auto buy everything from them anymore And we saw that with the watch The Apple watch didn't actually sell that well watches in general didn't actually sell that well Yeah, smartwatches seem to be tablets are going pretty quiet. Yep. I no one cares about a new iPad anymore Which is why Apple did that commodity basically like education edition iPad Honestly Okay, I think the hundred dollars would be pretty easy to swallow if Apple was bringing something game-changing to the table And I think that's where Samsung ran into trouble a little bit because my biggest issue with the note 8 wasn't that it's not A great phone. It's a great phone does everything My issue with the note 8 was that it was really safe You basically made a note 7 with a smaller battery uh-huh and What did they add again? Oh man right dual camera? I'm not surprised the dual cameras Really not that impressive so so that was where we ran into trouble the big highlight feature the dual camera Didn't blow my mind and so it's an extra hundred bucks for someone who's not a heavy stylus user I don't really care whereas here if the iPhone 8 has this like basically floor to ceiling wall to wall display surface and people are really into that then an extra hundred dollars might not be a big deal but Kind of a killer for me on it is this is how I take out my iPhone I I lift it up to my face like this and touch ID has unlocked the phone before before I would ever get a chance to align the phone with my eyes and unlock it with my irises Well before that he just did both of those by the way the rumor Is that the iPhone 8 or whatever they end up calling it iPhone edition? The rumor is that it will rely on facial recognition and old-school typed passwords instead of touch ID because Their plan to embed a touch ID sensor under the display is rumored to be cancelled since OLED creates an unfavorable scan through Scenario for the fingerprint sensor that's really disappointing Which is sort of a bummer because Apple's touch recognition is Awesome, sorry that only didn't go because I hadn't clicked it yet like it's so fast. I Would really miss that You know and I would look at something like that and I would go the decision between an iPhone 6s because your form of power user is mostly speed am I correct? Yes, I'm all about like getting stuff done with my so you are absolutely a power user of your phone But like I don't do much with not in terms of like gaming or no like watching really high quality video No, I mean yes, I expect performance and it's one thing that the iPhone does really well But the thing is is that the iPhone 7 and the 6s for that matter are both really fast And the weird thing that an iPhone 8 with this gorgeous full coverage display but lack of touch ID Does for me is it creates this weird segmentation in Apple's product lineup like they tend to still support older iPhone models So I'm looking at it going okay, so it's iPhone 6s if you want a headphone jack It's iPhone 7 if you want Better battery life and better performance than the 6s But you don't care about the headphone jack and then it's the iPhone 8 if you want this cool display experience But you're giving up both the headphone jack and touch ID and it costs more and it costs more And instead of it just being like an Unequivocally better experience as you move up the stack trade-offs you are actually making trade-offs as you go Which is really I feel like that would be unacceptable to Steve Jobs It's hard Let me try unless they like basically reinvented the wheel Then he'd be like no, this is what the experience is now And it would be a big deal. Did they ever take back a feature? I don't remember previous iPhone put together pieces from other things and went look. This is better Still steal the wheel yeah They stole the wheel and then they put other spokes in there and then they put the speaker in there And then they put other spokes on it, and they're like heck yeah Trendy ones yeah, really trendy wheels really trendy spokes. All right the wheels were made by someone else Okay Speaking of taking features off the iPhone and or putting them back on This is a pretty cool video. It's from strange parts guys only ever published two videos ever One was the one Luke was talking about yeah, so the first one is how I made my own iPhone And it's 23 and a half minutes long And then this one is bringing back the iPhone headphone jack And it's 33 and a half minutes long and both of them are really interesting I haven't fully watched the new one yet, but the first one I have watched the entire thing It's a great video He's only released two videos like Linus just said his other ones for four months ago And has nine million views his new ones from two days ago and already has 1.7 million views all right So awesome I dropped the link in the chat, but I'm pretty sure fair use allows us to show a little bit of his video for The sake of illustrating that he made a video So basically he does a bunch of stuff to the iPhone 7 that he says he loves, but it didn't have a headphone jack Find some contacts basically does some pretty crazy DIY shiz my friends Wow so basically he ripped off how the lightning adapter works and then like That's incredible It's wild like even the how I made my own iPhone video is absolutely wild like how he finds all the different things and how he talks to different people to get information To find out like oh I needed these little tiny like silver contact pads that have to go in this one area that like aren't Detailed anywhere, but they have to go there so that there's like spacing between whatever and like He details all of his different talks with different people and he details everything that he's doing and I don't know about this one But the how I made my own iPhone video went over as far as I know months right he's like doing little Pickup vlog things the whole time. It's really cool. I haven't fully seen the new one yet I would highly suggest watching both. Yeah, go check it out you guys channel name is strange parts and We've got one more. Let's do one more topic before we jump into our sponsors. 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It's not very expensive if GDDR 5 is good enough for the GTX 1080 Ti and Your upcoming Mid-range Vega is not fattening Vega is not faster than a 1080 Ti Why do you need? HBM to I don't think it's that big of like a buzzword I know and most people don't know what it means like AMD every time I talk to them they are just like they can't wait to like Unzip and like show me their HBM to be like we are bringing HBM to to consumers And I'm sitting here going so what? Consumers don't care what memory is under the hood. I just want to know how fast it is in whatever game Yeah, there are a few that do sure, but they care about the zero to sixty of The vehicle and like if it has air someone in the chat no idea what HBM to is well Yeah, watching it's a next-generation graphics made videos on it Um I'm not insulting you I'm just saying like this is the only thing I can think of is if they think that it's going to reduce The complexity and therefore the cost of the of the graphics card PCB to such an extent that it will offset the additional cost of the memory or If they basically the other thing that I can think of is that they just locked themselves into this Yeah, 18 months ago when development started, and there's no going back now without significant R&D to to backtrack on the decision and they're just kind of Boned because HBM to costs didn't fall the way that they were hoping actually you know what that's probably it Okay in other news Sorry, yeah, yeah, I will AMD's next-generation high-end Vega 20 AI and Super computing general purpose graphics chips will allegedly be made at TSMC in order to take advantage of their 7 nanometer process technology Which is expected to enter volume production sometime next year, so this is all very early rumor stuff where basically it feels like AMD's in sort of They're basically letting us know That there will definitely be news for when show about AMD all the way through the end of this year and into the next year Thank you. 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Yeah Oh, that was stressful. I was worried. We were gonna get banned from twitch man. Yeah me too Intel has discontinued the core i7 6700k and 6600k yeah I'll do that. Yeah, I guess this was posted by Zenos tech on the forum and the original article is from the tech report I mean, there's no real surprises here the the rumors are that coffee lake is coming very soon Intel rarely keeps a last-generation product alive for long after they launch a new one especially because They don't generally drop the price of the last generation. Yeah, it's not really any cheaper to make or it's not so much that it's As it is that the new one isn't really any more expensive to make so just like well you might as well buy the new one I guess I mean It's not like these really break so if you still want one I'm sure you can buy one Yeah, and 7700k even works in the same boards, so it's like There's like really not much Of a reason to run out and buy these unless you get one on promo or something But that tends to be pretty rare just because of the way that Intel manages their supply chain really well like speaking as someone who? Came from the channel It tends to be that just kind of They must just have very predictable sales because as the new one is coming the old one just like kind of trickles off in terms of supply and then by the way They've kind of worse are selling slower anyway, and you're ready to transition into the new one And there's never really a gap right it's actually kind of magical how well they people think Intel I don't think anyone thinks Intel's a marketing company But people think Intel is an engineering company and they are but what they also are is a supply chain company They've talked about it before they're really good. Yeah at supply chain Yeah, so they'll be taking orders of these chips through March 30th of 2018 and shipping them through to September of 2018 But I mean the reason that they want to get rid of them is that they would be taking up fab space that could be used For other 14 nanometer products, so yeah whatever rumor Google preparing to buy HTC's phone Division so this is posted by daring on the forum and I like that name for this news Because that would be pretty daring HTC and Google support Supposedly in final stage of negotiation regarding sale of smartphone business, I mean I see this being Okay, so there's a couple things here. I see this being Good news for HTC in that it gives them an exit strategy and bad news for HTC in that What do you do? Any relevance that they could have possibly hoped to have? I mean, I don't know if the company is gonna survive on Vive, but maybe they keep a very small VR Team that VR is going to survive on Maybe they keep a very small VR team that VR's are and I think they do that like they obviously do some OEM production Because they did produce the pixel They were the only they were the only Android maker with Little enough self-respect that they were willing to let Google get away with not putting their brand on the pixel so like I mean It's been a bad time to be HTC for the last few years I was like VR has been doing a little bit better lately sales have kicked up because the discounts on the headsets and stuff Yeah, it's been happening. There's some big games coming out. Actually. I got to play doom VR. How was it packs? It was actually pretty good. I don't think I'd like it. I bought Arizona Sunset, Arizona Sunshine, and it's like scary Like I like get free. Okay. Yeah, but there's there's a Skyrim and fallout as well. I would probably still get scared I know it's maybe a little scary like even has some creepy stuff. All right And the best makes creepy games Yeah, okay the thing the thing is that like I usually play VR when I'm like I Just want to relax for a little bit like I've just so what I usually play is the longbow game in the lab You know, it's really fun. Yeah, and it's all cartoony and happy and like even when you lose it's like We got your castle and like but there's balloons and stuff you don't really care and the other day I was playing the survival mode of Arizona Sunshine and I got to the level where they like start running at you and I was like killing guys My dad played the fallout game Fallout VR and he was like looking at the dog and like kind of pretending to pet it VR stuff Then a zombie comes up and like hits the dog and my dad like launched backwards in real life And like one of the demo ladies had to like jump out of the way and he immediately goes to like commando position Like holding the gun goes like this because it's just a pistol and it starts popping zombies. I'm like Whoa, just like immediately burst in action because something hit his damn dog It's like the fastest way to piss my dad off And then so those three games are coming all big from Bethesda And then there's other VR games that are continuing to come out from more VR focused developers It's it's VR stuff is becoming more legitimate, especially with these big titles. Oh, here you go. Uh-huh Ha VR is has been spun off as a standalone subsidiary already anyway Yeah, so Google's incentive here is that they want to produce hardware routers phones whatever Google is getting into consumer electronics and HTC has good manufacturing facilities and Was the m9 or m8? It was like the the one piece of aluminum the m7 was the first one that really got everyone's attention or like made Made HTC relevant again. Yeah, how are short a period time they can do that stuff But Yeah, so I see what's in it for Google. I see what's in it for HTC They had their worst month in the past 13 years Wow in August revenue dropped by fifty one point five percent compared to last month and fifty four point three percent Oh last August so like Yeah, I totally see this making sense and Google's probably the most sensible buyer that I can think of pretty cool um All right, that's boring. That's boring Wow, okay, there is something important to say about this Oh, okay, just one really quick thing okay hold on well. I'll bring it up then this was supposed to buy scratch cat on the forum the original articles from CBC 143 million US consumers may have been affected in a cyber attack Yeah, so this is an Equifax cyber attack thing. I don't know enough about it. We often stay away from Not always, but we often stay away from politically stuff especially American political stuff because we're not fully up to spec on it Because we're not Americans, but I do want to put this out here. It's been mentioned a few times I don't know if it's true or not, but do your own research to check if you've been affected You have to click yes to an agreement and most people just fly through and click yes to everything and the agreement Is that you will not join a class-action lawsuit? So be careful I don't a hundred percent know if that's true But I've seen it in a lot of places and it seems to be true. I would read it yourself But basically the consensus is right now if you've done anything with Equifax assume that you're affected Don't do the check to see if you want which is great because Equifax is like Really big deal and like you can very very likely have your identity be stolen But yeah, very careful. That's who you go to when you're at risk of identity theft Which is great. Yeah, no, it's like actually I'm apparently some Canadian and UK residents an undisclosed number Were also accessed so personal information for those guys Yeah, and I don't I don't know how well that thing that you're agreeing to is gonna actually hold up I suspect not at all. I hold up. I yeah I agree, but just be careful when you're clicking all this kind of stuff and just kind of assume if you've dealt with them that You're probably screwed Yeah, that's all I have to say about that one Okay What's app is finally monetizing oh my interesting so this was originally posted by TechCrunch whoops WhatsApp's first ads appear on Facebook and start conversations with businesses done done done so they announced their plan to eventually charge businesses stirring worries that businesses might be able to cold message users with sponsored message ads I want to drop this in here. Apparently a New York Attorney General is already totally crapping on that agreement Okay, so like it probably not a big deal Just just be aware of what's going on if you're affected by that. So now Code in Facebook's ad manager has been found that lets businesses buy ads with a send a WhatsApp message button built in For now WhatsApp isn't selling ads on its own But testing a WhatsApp chat button on Facebook ads that directly opens a conversation with a business in WhatsApp Businesses will only be able to contact WhatsApp users that have agreed to the message Or have agreed to be messaged by initiating the conversation and sponsored messages will work the same way on Facebook Messenger So businesses can pay to reconnect with people they're already chatting with Hmm WhatsApp initially promised not to show ads when it was acquired by Facebook for 19 billion in 2014 But I mean, I don't know exactly what we said about it at the time, but I'm pretty sure we probably called That BS on that. Yeah A retailer apparently confirms this was posted by Lobster Zoidberg on the forum An October 5th date for six core Coffee Lake processors Dun dun dun This is a German site and what we're looking at here is a core i7-8700k and 8700 both with six cores 12 threads and 12 megs of level 3 cache Wow Single core and multi-core boost of 4.7 and 4.3 gigahertz respectively in a TDP of 95.8 4.7 and 4.3 gigahertz respectively in a TDP of 95 watts Looking pretty good looking pretty sexerific. I'm pretty stoked I've been pretty clear that I'm super down for Coffee Lake six core mainstream basically gives Most people no reason to blow a bunch of money on x299 or x399 So super awesome And that's pretty much it oh Organization vlog 3 trailer. Oh damn is on Facebook now apparently so we can show it nice Yep, we're gonna have to do the janky stupid audio sharing thing actually do we hold on hold on hold on Maybe there's a better way You don't have to do the Doppler effect when you're literally walking away from the mic Like you don't have to mimic it because like it's actually happening I don't see it Well there it is oh This is exciting. I haven't seen this we got this we got this okay one hour ago now hold on hold on I gotta I gotta set up okay, I think Okay, so I apologize in advance if I am Wrecking your guys you guys's ears There are people complaining about the sound already Okay, I don't know if this is going to work Hold on let me try playing this Okay, it's working, but it looks like it's pretty quiet on the levels So I'm going to turn it up a bit, and I'm going to hope for the best Okay, here. We go Continue click to enter full screen So this is up on float plane already and Hopefully this is going to work Way to go Facebook video. Thank you for everything about what you are giving me promotions for a full plane Get it What is going on here click for more? How about it? Just work? Option what if I click on how about you work? That would be great now really Okay, let's just let's just reload this is awesome. Why? Why you know work well while we get this trailer spun up if you go and look on float plane You can just watch the whole thing right now, so if you're a float plane subscriber Instead of just watching the trailer on Wanshow through Linus's laptop Which is failing to load because Facebook you can just go watch it on the forum Thanks Bixby I Don't even like like is twitch explaining to me how this works No in some way. I wonder if it's this sound device. That's glitching it out What? What even what even just I? See this this is what I have to deal with around here. Oh Okay, so it's supposedly working now. I wonder if it hates my The scarlet as a sound output that would be weird my entire life is okay. No it seems like it's working now Okay, what the crap? All right, so let's do it. Let's do it Moving boxes from one shelf to the other Also the quality looks like crap Quality messier than it was before well. You know what I don't know who 70 What You know what I'll burn your house down residents in a surrey complex started running down the hallways Well that's exciting So man the staff union izes or so they think I Do not XO nips there were nips yeah there were oh Okay, um Apparently sound it wasn't the intent of the content Yeah, that actually helps you on to it does it you can have like full nudity if it's not the intent of the content Really like if you play Conan Exiles there's people running around Dicks out boobs out whatever right it's not the intent of the game It's not the intent of the game to have dicks and boobs out I mean like there's a there's a main objective that isn't that I think that's more what's going on got got it makes sense Okay, well like I want to watch it now, and I couldn't hear that so we're gonna play it again We're totally gonna play it again nice hold on All right, did you link the chat to a float plane already? I didn't okay? Well you probably should we've got we've got a lot of great stuff over on float plane right now What do we have we archive the daily live streams over there? I'm just gonna screen share with you guys We've got the beanbag chair long jump which is like Okay, I'm gonna ruin one moment. It's not actually the best moment, but it's a pretty epic moment Okay, I'm gonna ruin one moment. It's not actually the best moment, but it's a pretty epic moment Okay Hold on where is it? For some reason it wasn't the intro I thought it was an awesome intro What is it? I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know What where is it? Well, it's like it's like way in the video for some reason here we go here we go here we go here we go Almost a collision That was a thing my goodness super scary neither James nor I saw each other come in Yeah, so we've got an episode Comparing a $60 CPU to a $600 CPU And the comparison is is less stupid than you would probably think We've got a tech quickie avoiding common PC building traps episode 4 We've got three reasons not to buy this $400 laptop Dell is not gonna be stoked on that one. Oh, that's that's fun. I'm excited for that We've got the 1920 by 1080 meme PC. Oh, we built it. Oh That's funny. We did we all we definitely did it the 1920 x 1080 Try and figure out what hardware there's in that's in there, baby. Can I give them a hint? Uh, sure it came from a reddit thread from a like a while ago Yeah, someone tagged me in it and they were like if anyone's gonna do it It's you guys and I forwarded to Linus and was like It's an idea kind of a dumb idea, but but but it's also us. Let's do it. It's our kind of dumb idea This actually ended up being a far more informative video than you'd probably think LTT MacBook Pro stands, okay most of them suck so we figured out which ones suck and which ones are actually decent Which is good because even if you don't have a MacBook Pro use them for other laptops use them for any laptop. Yep Organization blog day three the finale is up And what else we got yeah, I think that's I think that's pretty much it Yeah, there might be there might be like one more on here because we we've released note 8 simultaneously so there's probably something here that I'm not seeing but Yeah, that's pretty much it so Thank you guys for tuning into the WAN show we've got a great show for you next week same bat time same bat channel I'm tired I'm like actually tired. You know this week has been more frustrating than usual so I Had the whole thing where I unwise Lee I admit decided to put not clickbait in a title on one of our videos Yeah, it wasn't clickbait. I Don't let people hate that but people hate that and they that's like Some Pauler stuff right there. They got some they got they got consumed by the hating that and sort of completely ignored the video Missing me missed the satire and missed that it was not clickbait And then and then there was like like after that there were people talking about how Clickbait the title of the next day's video this hyperloop pod has real hover engines There's not clickbait at all because it's a hyperloop pod and it has hover engines, and they're real And then there were all the people kind of missing the point of the hyperloop video basically people were mad because hyper loops are not practical and They sort of missed the part where it's an engineering competition and This isn't like a government installing a nationwide train system This is so I haven't read the comments, but like let's just address that for a moment Like if this is the US government trying to install train systems across the entire country and forcing you to ride them and Forcing you to ride them and pay for them And pay for them then you can like debate about how practical they are this was an engineering competition And it was privately hosted and so why the hell do you care? I mean you can if you really really want to get pedantic about it You can talk about how Elon Musk's has gotten a lot of government funding Yeah, cuz he's done a lot of awesome stuff And etc etc But basically that was really the idea of the And etc etc, but basically that was really frustrating There's been a lot of hate on the tech quickie intro so when it's one of the chats had Luke's disappointed in us I kind of am I come from a sciencey background and you have to try things You constantly have to try things and if you look at like the different technologies that have come out of NASA research for instance A lot of times it's you try something and you go like okay. Well, maybe our actual main goal wasn't It wasn't realized but through messing with these magnets and trying to cool down stuff that doesn't have air flowing by it and trying to Elevate really really heavy objects and move them really really quick on magnets We learned weird things about I don't know I'm gonna pull a bunch of stuff out my butt superconductors or Or or cooling things without air and like all this other kind of stuff that becomes helpful in other areas doing things because of Learning is a very good thing. So shush So I thought it was a really cool piece and basically people kind of crapped on it and I was just like well I feel like some of it was just that there's some negative sentiment Out there and I think people were kind of finding something to get upset about. That makes sense I also think that there's a lot of I Think that a lot of people feel felt like they were being sold something even though they weren't They were like this isn't gonna like okay So a lot of people drew parallels between the hyperloop and like the hyperloop competition video we made and Something like the solar freaking roadways video But the difference is that nobody is asking for your money So that that's one huge difference Spend anything so they're like debunked debunked and It's like debunked in the in in a tone that was like don't buy this it's been debunked But no one's asking you to buy anything. It's just it's just it's a science competition So I feel like people were people had sort of like a personal investment in You know trying to save other people from this thing. That's really bad when actually nobody is Nobody then they're like yeah in the hype like this one comment was particularly ignorant and they're building it in California and one of the most earthquake prone areas in the world Nobody is building it anywhere because it isn't a thing It's an engineering competition right now so that we can like learn some stuff and weren't they just okay? I don't know but weren't they just making the sled Yeah, they were just making pods Yeah, and then they had a one mile test track that some teams got to go down as fast as they could yeah, yeah Anyways, so that's where we're at That's where we're at and then the note 8 video had an error in it Okay, and we had to pull it down even if it was debunked I don't know but even if or if part of it was debunked whatever That's the point of science like parts of it are thoroughly debunked great, but No one is trying to build that like there's a lot of us. I talked about this a little bit last night, but It seems like the people crying debunked are assuming that all of the Scientists and engineers at SpaceX and all these universities haven't taken a grade 11 physics course Like like they're not aware that sudden decompression due to like a bullet hole in the hyperloop tube would be bad And my biggest thing is like trying things and failing and then trying again and with With knowing how and why you failed and growing from there is like literally the whole point and retesting things and other people Challenging your claims and all that kind of stuff. It's how science worked. So yeah debunked. Yeah, it's completely unhelpful Yeah going. Oh look, I theorized these things and I think you're wrong because of this data and I think this is interesting because whatever great At risk of getting a little offensive here I feel like a lot of it is the science as a religion crowd where they just kind of go, you know it's it's about it becomes like a fanboy mentality like I like I'm I got it I got to like defend this because because science said it and Sometimes I feel like that gets That energy is channeled in the wrong direction. Those people Think they really like science and it's really that they just really don't like other things and They forget that the scientific method is rather important I'm gonna address one comment here really quick. Yeah ECU underscore 55 said we just want review in all capital letters Mind you we just want reviews dot dot dot people are tired of clickbait. None of these things have been clickbait You're just tired of present that you don't want There's a difference. What should I review? Yeah, what's what's happening in the computer world right now that has you Raring to go you've got a review of everything that mattered in the last I don't know. We've got a review of the node 8. We've got a review of all three variants of Ryzen About four including threadripper We've got a review of Scientology is not science as a religion. Oh my god. Sorry. Wow That's a completely Indifferent so science as a religion is taking a faith based approach to science. Yeah, and basically treating something sciency that somebody told you as fact without worrying much about the method by which We arrived there when like what science is built on is questioning things and trying things and looking more deeply into stuff That's what we mean by that. It has nothing at all to do with Scientology Scientology is a cult Boom I support that What was I talking about before that though it seemed important sorry I don't remember Right, yeah, what are we supposed to review? Yeah, are we supposed to review like yet another mother we jumped on everything that's come out lately super hard I mean, I know there's people out there that really do want us to review a motherboard But what exactly would you expect us to say about it? It's pretty good, man Seems okay. It's got two RGB headers Like it's basically all the fan spots are it's unboxings at that point Yeah, and like they're honestly I have a motherboard review coming sometime in the next few weeks It'll be as rocks x2 99 mini ITX board because that is freaking cool but the the way to Sorry someone in the chat. It's a blue Except when I change it to red So that one's freaking cool and whenever something freaking cool shows up I'm amped. I'm gonna jump on it another motherboard video that I'm gonna have coming hopefully in the next little bit is Asus released a board with 19 PCI Express slots. See that's crazy. Yeah, that's cool That's different and that's something like even then it's not unboxing because we're just gonna have to find some weird way to do something Yeah, well, it's some kind of mining application or something. We'll hook 19 GPUs up to it and go to town But that's something interesting enough to do something but that's the thing is you guys gotta understand I can't make a video that bores me What is the point? Are you gonna like it if I say the same thing that I that I'm always saying? What's what are the features of this motherboard? What are the features of a motherboard it fits the other stuff that you can buy and? Connects it all also. It's got a great audio codec, which is important and RGB lighting which you may or may not think is important Which you may or may not think is important so like a lot a huge amount of motherboard stuff You could find way more efficiently and in a better format by just looking at the spec sheet on the website I mean, it's tough too because even a lot of like non IT stuff like phone stuff pretty consolidated like with manufacturers like HTC Nokia released a thing that people seem to care about LG's V 30 people seem to kind of care about But even like pixel 2 there's basically no hype like we're pretty much down to A half a dozen phone releases a year that anyone really cares about Server stuff no no Say what? It's got more cores than last year Which is good, which is cool, and if we find a cool application for it, okay again I do have a plan with some of the more recent server stuff. I want to do something with AMD epic Where we do a half a dozen video editing workstations running off of a single tower. I think that would be super cool There was a guy by the way at packs B. Y. O. C. Yeah, I didn't ever ever get to meet him But there's a guy there that's a fan of Linux tech tips yeah And had one I didn't notice it when I walked when I walked past I was like that's a very interesting computer And like kind of looked at it a little bit, but then just kept walking back didn't realize it was two setups in one tower Nice it was an unraid build it was a beautiful black and green which is not that common So I love seeing them at lands black and green Beautiful looking unraid build with his system on one side of the table and someone else's on the other side of the table Nice it was really cool, and I yeah, I wish I actually got to talk to him, but um So yeah, if we can find an application for it like I guarantee you something. We're going to do with the upcoming Intel higher core count high-end desktop parts Expect to see an unraid build where we do a streaming machine and the gaming machine that goes with it to discrete Discrete function machines in a single tower fire truck build All right, so thanks for watching Wanshow. We'll see you again next week same bad time same bad channel Oh Like do more old stuff like ah okay, so the problem with old stuff is there's a finite amount of it. Yeah Inherently there is a finite there is there will be more coming. Yeah Yeah, there's more old stuff coming on the floor at the very least one more yeah, and that'll be good. Yeah, all right. Thanks guys