 Alright, what's up, what's up my friends? Welcome to the WAN show. We've got a great show for you guys today, lots of different topics. I've got a brand new co-host here. I just came in off the street. You look like you came in off the street. You don't have like, you know, a look like I do. No, I am jealous actually. I was hoping, like do we have a wig or anything? I came in like off the club. That's where I came in off of. I'm gonna go see if there's anything I can wear. Alright, in the meantime I'm gonna tell you guys what we've got for topics today. Intel has unveiled Broadwell E, their new flagship desktop processors. That is to say, HEDT or high-end desktop processors. Whew, that pricing. AMD, on the subject of maybe lower pricing, has showed off their Polaris GPUs and actually did a reveal of a Zen CPU. More on that later on. We've got some information, it's all rumors at this point, about the OnePlus 3 launch. And Samsung has a 512GB SSD that's like this big. Looks like it is going to enable some seriously, wow you look even worse than me, some seriously small devices with a seriously large amount of storage. So, without further ado, let's hope the intro works because I actually did not test it today. Yeah you did. And I didn't listen to it. Also, it seems to be taking a while to load there. Let's see if it finds that file and goes ahead and plays it at some point. That would be super duper swell. Come on, you got this buddy. You got this buddy! Buddy? I need like a hair thing. Uh, Ron would have that. Aaron terrifies us all. Oh man, this hair is awful. You can feel that it's cheap. Yeah, I had to wear that for an entire WAN show. No one's forcing you, that's the key difference here. You know what? I want to be in the Linus Club. In the Linus Club, you are in the Linus Club. It's called Linus Media Group, yo. Alright, so without further ado, why don't we just go ahead and get this party started. Let's kick it off with the big Intel news. So we can pick any source we want for this particular little bit of news. Let's go ahead and drop the LTT forum link in here. So Intel has unveiled Broadwell-E with complete benchmarks, pricing, and there's 6950x overclocking results that are out there. So first, let's talk pricing. It is not going to be any surprise that the HEDT, or high-end desktop, Enthusiast Desktop parts are going to be priced a little higher than their mainstream counterparts. So you're used to seeing, you know, a 6600K i5 or a 6700K, somewhere in that $250-$350 range. HEDT starts at $434 if you're buying lots of a thousand of them, so the assumption there would be that you would see these somewhere in the neighborhood of $349 if they're on a really aggressive sale, all the way up to probably like $369 or something along those lines. It's funny because you can see Intel's margins, and this is my former retailer coming through, it's not really my concern anymore, but you can see Intel's margins on their balance sheets, which are a lot healthier than freaking, you know, 6% or anything like that. And as a retailer, you have to get by with somewhere in the neighborhood of 4-5.5% on Intel processors, from my experience. With that said, there is marketing funding available, but it just feels like the wealth could be shared a little bit in that regard. Though that's not necessarily the case. Fun fact, giving a typical computer retailer more margin will basically just result in more policing the retailers to make sure that they aren't undercutting each other by a dollar every other day, taking all the margin out of the product. In fact, one of the reasons that I suspect that many manufacturers, such as Nvidia and Intel, I don't believe it's legal in Canada, but in the United States, you can enforce what's called a MAP, or a Minimum Advertised Price. And that's the reason that they do this, and even though they do, many just go around it anyway by offering in-store deals or whatever the case may be. The advertised price, or is it a minimum actual price? It's an advertised price. So, if you've ever seen that feature on a site, and it's less typical on Canadian sites, because, again, like I said, I believe MAP is still illegal in Canada, if you see price too low to show, add to cart to see price, that means that the price is below MAP. Ed, can I help you? Oh, okay. Yeah, I think you can scan on it. I don't know to where, so there's that. Why are you talking to Ed? I don't know, maybe Ed wants to participate in the show too. He doesn't have fun hair. Well, do you have a- yeah, he doesn't have fun hair like us. Actually, his hair is getting pretty fun with his ponytail thing that he's got going on there. Samurai. There's like a- oh man, there's a hair clip that sits right under this headband that's actually quite painful. But, you know, fashion is not about comfort. No. Fashion is about- Often the other way around. Looking amazing. I have real hair that can go down this way. Yeah, that's not a thing to brag about. Show off your- do you have your ponytail thing still? No, I have it- It's now that way? So you have your ponytail combed forward. Just under my hat. If I'm not wearing a hat, I do it up. Great. I look good with this. Oh man. It's not a ponytail, it's a man bun. A man bun. You guys should go full Rainbow Dash all the time. Alright, so let's talk pricing for the rest of these processors. So to start with, here I'm just gonna go ahead and pull up. So these images are off of an OnTech. I love those guys. And I'm- oop, I'm gonna have to move us over to the right for this, I think. There we go. So there is the 6800K. So the 6800K is a 6-core. There are not any- here, let me see. Yep, there we go. Is a 6-core. There are no quad-cores in the lineup, just like last time around. It is hyper-threaded. All i7s are hyper-threaded, so that shouldn't be any kind of a surprise. Anything on the ATGT platform is a core i7. Well, unless you were to, like, pop a Xeon in there. It's not the kind of thing that Intel supports officially, but... Between you and me and the wall, it can be done. It's clocked at 3.4 GHz, so once again, the 6-core processor is actually clocked higher, even at the lower end, than the 8-core processor. So this was the case last time around, with the 5960X. And it turbos up to a multiplier of 35, or you can see, up to 3.6 GHz. So let's step it up a little bit. Let's go have a look at the 6850K. There are actually four SKUs this time, which is pretty interesting. So this one is clocked a little higher, and otherwise... Basically, pretty much the same thing. It's even rated at the same TDP. Although, Ian over at Anontek actually tested them, and... I mean, something that I've personally been aware of for quite some time, but may not be something that you guys know. He tested them and discovered that even though they're all rated at the same TDP, or thermal design power, the power consumption from one chip to another is actually quite different. And the reason for that will be fairly evident once we go have a look at the third SKU. So this is the 6900K. This one comes in... Oh, right, so the other difference between those last two was 28 PCI Express lanes on the lower end one, and 40 on the higher end one. They are pulling that again. So the 6900K is actually more of a direct replacement for the 5960X. And the reason that I say that is here we go from 6 cores to 8 cores with hyperthreading, and actually the same clock speed. So this is what would have typically been an extreme addition in every way, including pricing. This chip is going to cost you a whopping $1000 at retail. Actually, a little bit more now. They've actually increased the pricing there. This one is $1089 for a 6900K in lots of $1000, leading us to a chip that has never existed before. Lower maximum clock speed for the flagship one, like I was saying, this is similar to last generation where the 8 core is clocked lower than the 6 cores. But this one has a whopping 10 cores, and it's overclockable on a desktop platform. Based on early results, you would expect somewhere in the neighborhood of 4.1 and change GHz when overclocking it, making it at $1700 a very difficult purchase to justify. So let's start talking workloads, okay? What do people do with computers? Well, like I was just going to say, like, slow down here. This all just sounds like a bunch of techno babble to me. Why should I, as a normal person, care about all of this? Do you hear what he just called himself? Lean into the microphone a little bit. As a normal person. Well, not quite like that, but like sit up, turn it. Yeah, you know, armrests are still on this chair. See? That's what happens when you have armrests. It's a disaster. Okay. So, okay, what are you asking? I was saying, like, why should the average person care about the new 10-core Intel CPU? Well, this is where I wanted to get into different workloads, okay? So tell me, what do people do on their computers? Just start firing stuff at me. Gaming, I do a lot of video editing. Okay, well hold on, let's do one at a time. You said rapid fire. So for gaming, I didn't say rapidly fire, I said fire at me. So for gaming, the 6950X, so the Extreme Edition 1700-dollar, 1800 probably retail, 1800-dollar processor performs identically across the board to the other Extreme Edition processors. So the 6, the 2, 6 cores and the 8 core, identically. Because gaming is mostly going to come down to what clock speed you can run your fastest 2-4 cores at. In the case of going up against something like a 6700K, so that's a Skylake quad core on the mainstream platform, it will actually lose in quite a few cases because it is clocked significantly lower. Skylake can turbo up to 4 GHz. So that's about a 10% difference in clock speed, not to mention that it's running a more up-to-date microarchitecture. So on the desktop platform, they actually are running one full generation newer of chip design, enabling newer features, as well as higher performance and lower power consumption. You say on the desktop platform, you mean like desktops, not laptops. The mainstream desktop platform. Because these are both desktop platforms that we're talking about. So not high-end desktop, regular desktop. Okay, so for gaming, basically it makes no sense at all. Hit me with another use case. To have the 10 core. Yeah, to have the $1,700 Extreme Edition 10 core. Okay, video editing. Video editing, okay. So once again, I pretty much can't think of a scenario where it makes any sense. Really? Because in most cases, you are either, once again, limited by peak clock speed, or you are using some kind of workload, like let's say Sorensen squeeze, where you can take advantage of more cores. And if that's the case, then let's go ahead and have a look at what's available in the Xeon E5 V4 lineup. Because those chips are actually socket-for-socket compatible with pretty much any board that would hold one of these Extreme Editions. I'm going to go ahead and pull up Intel's Arc website. Let's find something comparably priced here. Here's a $1,745 processor that consumes less power and has 14 cores clocked at 2.4 GHz. Let's have a look at its max turbo speed of 3.3 GHz. Is that impressive? So, yeah, that's pretty freaking good, not to mention that it comes with ECC memory support. So, with that said, it doesn't support overclocking. So let's have a look at what else they have in sort of a comparable price range. Here's a lower clocked 16 core. Eh, probably wouldn't be looking at that unless I was in like a heavily virtualized environment where I'm running a lot of host operating systems. What about like rendering for 3D animation? In that case, it's going to basically that's one of the few workloads where you can basically take the number of cores times the frequency that they run at, factoring in the architecture that they use, and kind of just add them up. And get an actual result. It scales, 3D rendering scales relatively linearly. But that's on the CPU, not the GPU, right? Are we rendering with the CPU? If we're talking about CPU rendering, then yes. But would you want to do that? Well, it really depends on what application you're using. It's one of those things where it comes down to what that person's actually using. So Intel's competing against Xeons in these heavily multi-threaded workloads. And then the other issue that I have is particularly with our new workflow in Adobe Premiere, we could easily be using quad cores. We did a video recently with an ultrabook, a dual core ultrabook, editing video over the network using our Cineform codec that we convert all of our footage to. And the performance was fine. So the only thing you would actually be able to use the extra horses for would be the final export, which from my experience only benefits from about... So we've got 14 core processors in those machines right now, and they hit about 60% usage. So from about 8 cores. Out of 10. Out of 10, yeah. So you could easily buy the 8 core instead. Oh, and that wouldn't utilize just 6 then? It actually utilizes up to 8? Yeah, it utilizes up to 8 from my experience with the way that we rendered H.264. But most people don't go to Cineform first unless they have watched our stuff and realized that it's awesome. So you're paying an extra $700 for two more cores on an 8 core. There's another problem, is that dual socket motherboards are not that expensive compared to regular motherboards, especially if you're already spending $1700 on a processor. Let's assume that you're buying a decent motherboard to go with it. So let's have a look at... Here's a 90 watt chip with 10 cores clocked at 2.4 to... Let's see, 3.4 GHz max turbo. You could throw two of those in. That's a $939 processor, so just spending a little bit more. You could chuck two of these bad boys in for a total of 20 cores. If you had a heavily multi-threaded workload. And it would be able to use all of that? Well, if you have a heavily multi-threaded workload, then yes, it would. So no Dwarf Fortress. So no, Dwarf Fortress would not... It only utilizes one core. Okay, alright, so hit me with another workload. Oh dear, SETI at home, folding at home. Okay, so once again, my 20 core dual Xeon setup is going to absolutely mop the floor with it. Yeah? That can be utilized with multiple stuff. Yeah, and if it couldn't, then a 10 core definitely wouldn't make a difference. So distributed computing would benefit from our overclocked 10 core processor, but not enough to justify the price. Hit me again. I'm out, I don't have any more. You hit you. I'm out too. I can't figure out what this product is for, especially at that price. I think at $1000, if they were giving us the 8 core at the kind of $650-700 price point, and if they were giving us... Maybe even, you know, I'd be okay with a 6 core, but maybe with all the PCI Express lanes, or an 8 core with the 28 PCI Express lanes. Like if we were really getting a significant improvement this time around, then I would be pretty happy. Like hang on, why did they make a 10 core CPU if it's not really useful for many things, and you just get more CPUs for cheaper? What's the point? It is useful for things, but it's like not at that price. At $1000... Well yeah, that's the point. If it's not useful at that price, then it's not useful. So basically what it looks like happened is someone at Intel went... Well, crap. Because we can? No, not that. I mean, no, I don't think Intel does anything just because they can anymore. I think someone at Intel went, if we deliver an 8 core overclockable processor, so we're talking, you know, 4 GHz x 10, so 40 GHz of power. Yes, I know it doesn't scale like that. We are going to be seriously cannibalizing Xeon. Unless we hamstring it in some way, or jack the price. And it already is hamstrung in a way. So it is not capable of having two of them installed on a single motherboard. That's something that's been true of the HEDT processors since... Wow, since Skull Trail, I guess? Yeah, since Skull Trail. I don't know what Skull Trail is. It was a very, very expensive... Basically it was two Xeons, but they branded them as Extreme Editions. And then a specific motherboard that you could put them on. Two motherboards. I think EVGA had one as well. So other than Skull Trail, we've never seen an Extreme Edition processor, an overclockable processor that can be installed with two... Can be installed in a dual socket board, or at least have two of them installed in a dual socket board. I've heard that they'll work in a dual socket board if you want me to install one of them. Are there triple socket boards? There are quad socket boards and eight socket boards. Does it go all the way up to eight? I am not aware of a 16 socket board, and the size of it would be a thing to be reckoned with. Make a fun video. Basically, I think that's what happened. They were worried that taking away ECC memory compatibility wouldn't be enough to prevent high-end workstation and entry-level server customers from using these things at $1,000. They couldn't figure out a way, other than just throwing more cores on it, to differentiate it from the last-generation Extreme Edition in a significant enough way that customers would drool over it all over again. All right, but blah, blah, blah. Who is it for? It is for people with more money than cents, which has been true of many Extreme Editions in the past. Just normal consumers, not big companies? Oh, who are they trying to sell it to? Regular consumers like gamers. Gamers who want a little bit less performance. Yeah, but gamers watch Linus Tech Tips and they'll know that it's pointless. No, that's not the case at all. In fact, I forget where I was reading this, but I looked at a really interesting graph of the estimated sell-through of Intel's HEDT lineup over the last several generations. It might have been on WCCF Tech. And the price, so times the price, and the most successful processors they've had in terms of revenue have been... The more hardcore ones? Yeah, the higher-priced ones that increased the core count over the previous generation. So it looks like Intel is trying to make that exact lightning strike here. But I personally really doubt it, and I sincerely hope not, unless this is an omen. Huh? Yes, an omen. Because the last time a processor manufacturer took kind of the existing pricing structure and blew it like way sky high for no apparent reason other than to create the illusion of bragging rights amongst their most affluent customers, the last time that happened, it was AMD pulling this crap with the original FX. It was actually Intel responding to AMD when they created Extreme Edition. So AMD was the one who started this, like, $1000 FX. You can only get one if you spend the $1000 on it lineup. So what I'm hoping is that now that that's happening again, because what happened right after AMD did FX was Intel took the balance of power back. They crushed the FX with like a $400 chip. What I'm hoping is that AMD's Zen will be affordable and make this thing look really embarrassing for Intel. Billy Hatcher 312 says, shut up with pre-recorded crap. So there you go, Billy. Pre-recorded? I'm proving that it's not pre-recorded by responding to his comments. Oh, lovely. All right, so there you have it. That's my take on the 60... That was fascinating....6950X. Did you almost fall asleep? These chairs are comfortable. These chairs are comfortable, but... You can lean all the way back as well. Yes, you can do that. Please do not mess with these chairs. Someone messed with this one and it was like tilted funny enough. Yeah, but the handle's right here on the left. Well, just don't, because Linus will get upset. Yeah, well, it's like two seconds to fix. All right, so yeah, but I couldn't figure out how to do it. That was the problem. I had told you before and you had ignored me. Well, I forgot. All right, let's go ahead and drop our next topic in the chat here. AMD Polaris and Zen Reveals. So let's talk Polaris first. This is where I was at in Macau. We're going down a little bit. Yeah, no, okay. You can just talk with Twitch chat if you want. You don't have to pay attention if you're bored. I am bored. So let's talk about Polaris first. So I was at the event in Macau. Here's what we know so far. The goal is to bring real VR, like Rift Vive-grade VR, to the first 100 million customers. That's the $200 thingy. I actually don't know how much of this is rumor and how much of this is not rumor right now. So there's a ZDNet article that we've pulled the information from. I don't know how much of it is embargoed and how much of it isn't, because I know at least some of it is. So according to the ZDNet article, it's built on the 14 nanometer FinFET process from Global Foundries. It will have greater than five teraflops of power. Oh, this is apparently all from the announcement stream. Thanks, Nick. 256 gigabytes per second of memory bandwidth, four or eight gigs of GDDR5, 150 watt power draw starting at $199, although I would personally speculate that the eight gig version will not be available for $199, at least to start. They are claiming up to a 2.8x performance per watt improvement over the previous generation. And to clarify, even though they were talking a lot about VR, VR, VR, VR, with the RX 480, that is not the entire point of the card. And I actually had quite a few people... Hold on a second, I'm just creating a straw poll here. I have an M4n1 VR. Let's go with yes, no. There we go. Sorry, I've got my straw poll created here. So I had quite a few people kind of go, well, gee, Linus, on the video that I uploaded where I did an interview with Rajat Kuduri, like, I'm not interested in VR, so what, is this just a VR card? And the answer is no, of course not. What they're talking about when they say it's really great for VR is they're saying that it is powerful enough for VR at an affordable price, not that it only works for VR. So I would expect this card, in fact, one of the demos they did, the only demo I've seen of its performance so far, one of the demos they did showed it up against two RX 480s against a single GTX 1080 in Ashes of the Singularity holding up pretty darn well in a non-VR 3D workload. Now, does it have that minimum high frame rate that you were talking about? So that is one of the things that they would be tackling in a sort of VR-optimized design, helping it not dip below that minimum VR frame rate of 90 frames per second. You can't have that, it's crazy. That said, controlling dips is also enormously beneficial for flat 3D gaming. So it's not a problem that they've optimized the architecture to avoid dips in frame rate. That wouldn't hurt anybody. Everyone should be happy about that. Just the reason it's more important for VR is that it doesn't make you feel sick when you're looking at a panel in front of you, whereas when you're in a virtual reality headset, it most assuredly does. So this is interesting. We have a whopping 53% of you, and if we factor out the turnip votes, it becomes even more. 70% of you are interested in the RX 480. Okay, we haven't actually done one of these in a while, but we are going to have to do a Twitter blitz here. I want to hear from you guys. Tweet me, atlinestech on Twitter. Are you planning to buy an RX 480? Sight unseen. You haven't even seen the performance yet. Do we not have the specs? Do we not know? We have specs, but that doesn't necessarily tell us the whole story, and we don't even have all the specs. 36 compute units, and then we have memory bandwidth, and we have 5TB. We know approximately how it's going to perform, but that is not the whole story. How powerful is the AMD hype train here, guys? Hit me up and let me know in the Twitter blitz. Are you planning to buy one? And it doesn't necessarily have to be for you. Tell me what you're planning to buy it for. Are you planning to buy one for a friend's computer or for a relative's computer or something along those lines? I do want to hear from you guys. Let's go ahead and chat Zen very briefly here while I wait for some results to roll in there. Let me just go... Actually, I think this article is the ZDNet one that I was accidentally referring to before. Let's go ahead and pop that in there. All right. So I've heard it speculated, you know, six ways from Sunday that Zen will be released, you know, this year or early next year or early this year. I mean, there has been rumors flying about Zen. This is AMD's upcoming flagship CPU architecture. It's going to be awesome or not? Well, according to, you know, AMD fanboys and AMD employees, yes, they've both let me down a number of times in the past, so I'm personally withholding any judgment until I actually am holding one and putting it into a motherboard. But it looks like they may actually be coming closer. So here's the update. LisaSue held a Zen processor that she claimed was working in her hand on stage. They are claiming 40% higher IPC, that's instructions per clock, versus the last generation, although we don't know anything about the final clock speed. What was shown was eight cores, 16 threads, so we should have some kind of hyperthreading equivalent on the AMD side now. It's going to be using a FinFET process, which is not any kind of a surprise. There will be an AM4 desktop platform to go with it, which, oh, man, AMD is sorely in need of a desktop platform. Totally. Did you know that AMD's flagship desktop processor, the 9590FX, whatever it is, still runs PCI Express 2.0? That sounds old. And DDR3. PCI Express 2.0 is older than DDR3, but that's okay. I like having you here for these reactions. I enjoy that. Because even though I had actually, this was kind of a backroom discussion, so I'm not going to say which motherboard manufacturer said it, but one motherboard manufacturer had actually done the work of enabling PCI Express 3.0. They had motherboards that they had it working on. For AMD's chip. Yeah, and there was kind of no official support, or there was some issues. I like that. That update is just not coming. Oh, so they tried it and got it kind of working? So it got as bad as motherboard makers were trying to do the work for them. Yeah. And nothing ever happened. I feel like that with Premiere. I'm doing the work for Adobe. So there's no date for Zen, but what was said is that it's alive, it's on track, and they are extraordinarily excited about what Zen will bring to the marketplace. Is there a due date on this, or are they just, so it could be vaporware? I would say I'll be surprised if it's not Q4 this year, or much more likely Q1, Q2 next year. Q4 means the last four months, kids. I'm going to let you think about that for a second. Last three months? Well, you know, four times three is 12. It divides in there somehow. Thank you, Taron. All right, let's go ahead and jump on to that Twitter blitz over there. Have a look at what you guys are, have a look at what you guys are, oh. Dang it, I don't know why it does this. Give me my, give me my window region. Come on, baby. Come on, baby. You can do this. Oh, I'm just waiting for the dialogue to pop up so that I can go ahead and capture. You know what, it's okay, I can just start reading some of these. Steven Workman says, I'm saving up for my first proper gaming PC, and I'm really interested in the 480. The frames per Canadian peso look pretty good. That's a serious factor. Like, this will be a serious gaming card available at a price that people outside of the United States of America might actually be able to afford. But like, it is a serious gaming card, right? Like, we know the specs, we know that it will be good. We know that it will be good, we just don't know how good. Uh-huh. We know the minimum goodness. And there are other things that we don't know, for example. Like, we don't know if it's going to be plagued by driver issues out of the gate. Oh, boy. That'll be fun. Like, we have no way of predicting something like that. Um... Here we go. Igor says, yes, RX 480 for my own rig. Sold my 7970 Crossfire and will buy it. There you go. Bob Ross, I'm considering it for a friend's $1,000 gaming rig. Brian says, I'm waiting for GTX 1050. Unless someone puts a friggin' backplate on the RX. Um, I would say, Brian, I probably would not... I probably would not make my decision about a GPU based on whether or not it has a backplate. Fun fact, backplates, in many cases, you'll see cutouts on them for certain components to stick up through them. Because backplates, in many cases, actually cause components on the back of the card to run hotter. Because there's a big thing of metal in the way. Because there's a big thing of metal in the way. Unless the manufacturer is investing in a lot of thermal interface material, as well as the precision manufacturing of the backplate that will allow it to rest evenly on all of those components, they actually are A, not that beneficial, and B, can actually reduce compatibility with other cards being in your system at the same time. Because the spec for the spacing of a PCI slot does not account for anything above the PCB on the back of the card. So there's a... You put a thing on top of my head. Fun fact for you. No, no, it's not actually there. Oh, no, it is. It's on the stream, see? Oh, really? Yeah, it's right there. Oh. Uh, oops. You captured your own. Oh. Okay, well... Headless Taron over here. Gosh darn it. Um... Whatever, I give up on that. I'm just gonna read them to you guys. Uh, Nitroblast says, You have to get the timing just right to get it on the WAN show. LUL. Yes, that is true, and it is pretty tough. Uh, Daniel says, If I could buy it, yeah, holy cow. Compared even to the straw pull, there's a lot of you guys saying, yeah, let's go for it. See, I'm way more cautious than this. I don't like to buy anything unless it's been out for a while, everything about it is known, people have been using it for a while, they know that it's good. I don't like to be on the cutting edge for stuff like this. Huh. I think y'all are crazy. I mean, I personally think it's a little early too. I would be waiting for GTX 1060. I just want to see how that card plays out, because what you guys need to remember is that, even though AMD is shouting from the rooftops about how amazing RX 460 to 480 are going to be, and how they're going to be like, killer performance per watt, per dollar, and all that stuff, it's not like this is AMD's flagship GTX 1080 1070 competing chip size. That's not what we're looking at here. This is more of a mainstream size die. So Nvidia's cards, Nvidia's chips were never intended to compete with these Polaris chips, like they sit above and below each other like this. So for a little while here, until Nvidia fills out their lower end 14 nanometer cards, and AMD fills out their higher end ones, whether you buy Nvidia or AMD could basically come down to how much money you have to spend. If you're looking at like a value gaming rig, you may be forced to buy AMD because Nvidia's last generation 28 nanometer Maxwell chips are probably going to make no sense compared to Polaris. But if you want a high end rig, I mean unless you want to just start like stacking RX 480s into your system, which is never a good strategy by the way, adding up more cards, you're going to be forced to buy Nvidia because AMD won't have anything even close to competing with it. Yeah, what he said. Or you could just lag behind by like two years and everything will be fine. All right. Why don't we move on to a topic that Taren will like better. Or 20 years, that's not true. So this is, I mean, this is one of those things where it's like in your 101 philosophy, from like a philosophy 101 type of standpoint, you know, you could be like, whoa, man. I have opinions on this. Yeah, man. So Elon Musk. The chance we are not living in a computer simulation is one in billions. Where did he get that number from? He figures if we aren't stuck in a matrix style world, then the world is about to end. Really? How now? How does he furthermore figure that? I so disagree with this, by the way, I have lots of reasons. Why don't you go first and then I'll go through and then I'll go through our notes on Mr. Musk. There's a concept in philosophy known as falsifiability. Wait, or is that science? Whatever. It's a concept. For something to be scientific, it needs to be falsifiable. So you could say that there's like there's the example of the Russell's teapot floating out between Mars and Earth. It could be there, but we don't know. We should probably give more information on that. No way to prove. A what teapot? Just a teapot. Okay. No, no, okay. I'm not explaining this very well. No, you're not. Okay, let's start over with solipsism, which is the idea that my mind is the only one that I know for sure exists. I think therefore I am. Right? Famous thing in philosophy. The only thing, why is my phone making noise? The only thing that you can prove to yourself, absolutely 100%, is that you exist. Everything beyond there, you have to take at least some measure of faith to accept. So as long as your standards of proof are not so incredibly hardcore that you don't believe that the world exists by itself, you can pretty much accept that the world is real. Okay, so the problem with saying that we're in the matrix or computer simulation or whatever is that it's not falsifiable. There's no possible way to prove that. There's no way to prove it. And there's no way, more importantly, there's no way to disprove it. And that's why you can't believe this, and that's why you can't make any meaningful statement upon how true it is. It's nice to be able to speculate, but to put a number on it, like one out of a million or 10 million or whatever he said, that's ridiculous. So to be clear, it is a bit of a sensationalist headline, but here's sort of the spiel. The strongest argument for us probably being in a simulation, I think, is the following, he told the Code Conference in California. 40 years ago we had Pong, two rectangles and a dot. Well, I'm sold. Okay, that's where we were. Now 40 years later we have photorealistic 3D simulations with millions of people playing simultaneously and it's getting better every year. Soon we'll have virtual reality, we'll have augmented reality. So he said that if the speed of these advancements dropped by a thousand, we would still be moving forward at an intense speed relative to the age of life in general. So it says probably to the question of whether we are all in a simulated game and that we should be hopeful we're in a simulation, because otherwise if civilization stops advancing then that may be due to some kind of calamitous event that stops civilization. So I guess the argument is that at the rate that we are improving technologically, it shouldn't be a surprise that we can technologically improve enough to have a simulation of us? Oh, well, I mean, there's an interesting story about this where they come up with a computer that can simulate, they come up with a computer with infinite power, right? It has infinite CPU cycles. Yeah. And so then they decide, oh, let's simulate the universe. And they do that and then they figure out, oh crap, we're in our own simulation because it goes infinitely deep. So the chance that you would be on one of those simulation levels, because right, the computer is being simulated inside of the computer because it's infinite. So the chance that you would be one of those would, you know, is pretty much guaranteed. So that seems like basically the conversation we're having. The trouble is you cannot make a computer that can simulate the universe without it being larger than the universe because it would have to be in the universe, right? No, you could have a data set that is larger than the physical computer itself. I don't know. The point is, I mean, the universe is quite a huge thing. And you know what I think the point is? The atoms, it's like trillion quintillion billions, gundillions. I think I'm going to need a second. All right, let's go ahead and do a rapid fire topic here. This one's pretty light. We don't have to think much about it. Original article here is from theverge.com. Let's go ahead and pull this baby up. Ducky releases a, the Ducky Pocket is a mechanical keyboard calculator with Cherry MX switches. Oh great. Huh? Huh? How awesome is that? Can I be the voice of negativity over here? You can be the voice of negativity, but I'll hate you for it. What's cool about mechanical keyboards, and I used to not be so sold on them and now I understand why they're cool, is that they're comfortable to type on. Yeah. They're nice to type on. I don't know. They're good to type on. But when you're typing, you're doing a lot of keystrokes quite quickly, and you need to do so accurately. With a calculator, not so much. Or with something like, we have these little tech keys keyboards that have like three keys on them. Those don't need to be mechanical. We don't need fancy key switches. We just need buttons. It doesn't matter. I'm going to counter that argument. Some people touch type on a number pad. Okay. For people who do a lot of calculations, I can see that being cool. Well, why would anyone who doesn't do a lot of calculations buy a calculator? They have one built into their phone. That's why I don't have a calculator. It's part of my phone. So if you were to buy a calculator, wouldn't you by definition be the target audience for someone who would need good key switches on a calculator? I just tore your argument apart, son. You just got wanchoed. Why are you typing everything in by hand anyway? So basically, it's the same thing as those standalone mechanical number pads that have existed for quite some time for laptop users in particular. But now it has an LCD display on it, which I personally think is very cool. Yeah, whatever. I'm sold. I'm sold. Apparently it has RGB backlighting? Yeah, see, that's definitely pointless. Badass. Badass. Pointless. Badass. What do you need that for? Well, you don't need it. No, you don't need it. It's not about need. It's about being cool. Yeah, you know, you're cruising down the street with your RGB calculator and pressing all the ladies. You just type boobies in it and then you show it to them. Yeah. That would be such a good trick, you know. What else can you spell on the calculator? I can't remember. I don't know. It's been a while since high school. Definitely boobs. Yeah, well, you know, that's easy. And boob. Yeah. And boob. Are we done? We're done with that. All right, let's move on to our first sponsor spot of the day. DollarShaveClub.com is apparently missing the logo because Colton... Forgot to tell us to do it....didn't put the logo in the right place. DollarShaveClub.com. And the link is DollarShaveClub.com slash Linus. Unfortunately, it is not present at the bottom of our thing right now because... Grabbing it....the sponsor, lower third folder, is completely empty, but that's okay. Way to go, Colton. DollarShaveClub.com delivers amazing razors straight to your door for a third of what those other razor companies charge, giving both your wallet and your face some relief. Using a fresh razor really, really does feel a lot nicer on the face. And since they deliver enough for you to have a new one every week, there will be nothing we can do about it. 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I'm going to go ahead and drop that in the Twitch chat since otherwise that link is not going to be available anywhere. Woo! Alright, let's move on to FreshBooks. Now if you guys run a small business or you know anyone who runs a small business, check out FreshBooks. At least just go to the link, FreshBooks.com slash WAN, we've got that right here. FreshBooks.com slash WAN and just have a look at what they're about. It's a super simple to use invoicing tool. This one's working, Taren. It's a super simple to use invoicing tool that does a lot more than just help you create and send slick looking invoices. You can keep track of your time, you can keep track of your expenses, you can keep track of who owes you money, how much, when it's due. Speaking of when it's due, you can actually use it to take deposits, which depending on the kind of business you're running, it may be very, very useful. For example, when I used to run a house painting business, taking a 10% or 15% deposit is necessary because otherwise you're going to go and buy a bunch of paint for the first day on the job site, show up and they're like, yeah, no, we booked with someone else. No? Well then I'm keeping your deposit and all this paint, yo? Actually, I would let them keep the paint because I have no use for extra paint. I just have to dispose of it, which by the way is not free in many places. Well, I mean, what if it's like kind of generic paint? Well, yeah, if it's like black trim paint or something, I would keep it. But if it's something that I don't think I can reuse, then I would definitely want to get rid of that. So if you have any questions, they have support staff that will help you. But the whole idea behind FreshBooks is that it's designed for people who are not necessarily numbers people and accounting experts. 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You can see it happening on screen and it's not just horrible to follow like so many tutorials are. It's just it's great stuff. And they've also got like photography, animation like you can just scroll through. Just go to Linda.com and just scroll through all the stuff that they offer to get an idea of what they have. So stuff like office applications, Photoshop, Adobe Premiere, photography. There's I wasn't listening. Lots of different stuff. It's used by millions worldwide. They're adding new courses all the time. They're taught by industry experts. That's important because like they'll tell you like, oh, this feature is dumb. Don't use it or not in those words. Well, it depends on the guy like Deke is pretty funny. He does the Photoshop ones. He will tell you what to do so you can use it on your iPhone on your Android device. You can actually download the videos. You can skim along through transcripts of the courses. Oh, that's really part. That's interesting. You can share your learning plan with someone else if you want to sort of go through the same curriculum together and plan started only 25 bucks a month. So check it over over at Linda.com slash when show. All right. So we've been adding some more. I had a class where literally the whole class was like, hey, just use Linda. And I was like, why did I pay for this class if they're just also making me pay for Linda? I should have just done Linda in the first place, which was a lot cheaper than that. Yeah. And so now I just use Linda. All right. So the next article here is from tech raptor dot net. Here we go. Oops. That was a long one. That is that is a controversial looking thumbnail image that we got going on there. Twenty six controversial games pulled from steam in a German crackdown. So the removed games include Carmageddon Max pack. That is an old game. Painkiller Black Edition. Like, OK, postal, postal to postal three rune classic time shift. Uber soldier. Basically, some some hyper violent types of titles. And this is an attempt to remove media, which may be harmful to Germany's younger audience. So the game releases actually span an era of 20 years. I was going to say those I those are old. Some of those and it appears to be a court done accordingly to the titles appearing on the list of media harmful to young people, also known as the index. So it includes games, music, books and movies. And when a title is placed on this list, it is placed in one of two categories. List A. Sorry. It includes books. They're making books now. So list A is unable to receive a USK rating. So that's the German equivalent of ESRB. So this prevents an official German release and buyers of foreign versions must not make the games content accessible to minors in any way. And list B cannot be sold at all within Germany. So Valve hasn't issued an official statement, but some of it I get. So some of these contain like Nazi imagery, which is hardcore banned in Germany, man. Oh, yeah, that would make sense. That is definitely, definitely not a thing. But some of this stuff does not appear to have been banned for that particular reason. Well, like, here's the thing. I know that there's a lot of discussions about. Do violent video games make kids violent? Do we know the answer? We don't know the answer. Some people think they know the answer, but. Did they have this? There have been research done. Like, because if it legitimately, you know, causes kids to be more violent, then that's a concern for sure. But like, do we know? There's research done, but none of it's conclusive. And anyone who thinks that any of it is conclusive has an agenda and is trying to sort of answer it one way or the other before they even go in and look at it. There's nothing conclusive. I can. I find that so hard to believe. I can personally say that I was not made violent by violent video games. Yeah, me neither. Probably. But. Yeah, me neither. Probably. I don't know. You don't strike me as particularly violent. No, I'm not. I'm not violent at all. Not like your old roommate anyway. Oh, oh, yeah. I had a. I had a guy's roommate who ended up killing a few people. It's. That's a story for another time. I'm surprised he didn't kill you. I got. I peaced out of there real quick. Yeah, I would too. Like he would have. You think so? Yes, he was incredibly unstable, very violent person and play a lot of video games played a lot of sports. Interesting. Hashtag blame sports. Do sports make kids violent? Well, you know, maybe because like like Luke was talking to me about what was it? Lacrosse where he was playing where every time he'd go out, he would he would just like hit this one guy that he didn't like. You remember that? No, he never told me that part of the cross. I wouldn't have played lacrosse with him if I'd known that's what I was saying. But this guy was a bit bigger than Luke and he always thought he could take him. And then Luke always laid the beat down. So yeah, sports, you know, also a concern. Yeah, so we should ban sports. We should ban sports. Speaking of speaking of banning, we should ban large SSDs because this looks freaking awesome. So the original article here is from news.samsung.com. Samsung has begun mass producing the industry's first 512 gig NVMe SSD in a single BGA package. This is to give more flexibility in computing device design. For those of us who don't know what a BGA package is. Basically, you know what the single chip on a stick of RAM looks like? Just the one little black black thingy that's kind of square. Yeah, you know how there's a bunch of them? Yeah. Each one of those is a BGA package. Like the picture, okay. Yeah. So this right here that you guys are looking at, that is a 512 gig SSD. That's half a terabyte. Un-freaking-real. So we're at the point now where especially guys like Samsung, the only reason we don't have, you know, 20 terabyte or 50 terabyte SSDs is that the cost of the controller and the cost of all those chips would simply be too high for any customer to afford it. Those are like smaller than a dime, right? Yeah, I'd say they're about the size of a dime, yeah. So what that means is in a new tablet or like a two-in-one, you could have a full-fledged NVMe SSD, albeit not with the same power as something like a 950 Pro, but a full-fledged NVMe SSD in an unheard of form factor. Like we don't even have to have a card on it. I do not know pricing at this time. All we have right now is specs. So they're saying it's designed for use in next-generation PCs and ultra-slim notebooks, extremely compact package that contains all essential SSD components, including the NAND flash memory, the DRAM, and the controller. It triples the performance of a typical SATA SSD, says Zhang Bei Li, the Senior Vice President of Memory Product Planning and Application Engineering team, which is freaking unbelievable. It's got 15 of Samsung's 48-layer 256-gigabit VNAND flash chips, one 20-nanometer 4G LPDDR4 mobile DRAM chip, and a high-performance Samsung controller. It weighs only about one gram. Sequential read and write speeds of 1.5 gigabytes per second and 900 megabytes per second when TurboWrite technology is used. Pretty freaking unbelievable. Let's go ahead and start doing some rapid-fire topics. Taron, would you use a water-cooled laptop? No. No. Based on what I've seen with Linus, who's supposed to know what he's doing, and likes water cooling, and still stuff gets corroded and horrible? No. Well, that wasn't yet my best, in all fairness, to water cooling. Now hang on, though, because I've seen the insides of some of these laptops, and they have the little tube thingies. What are those called? Heat pipes? Heat pipes, yes. Do those have a liquid in them? Okay. So now you're opening up a can of worms right now. Kind of water-cooled already. And it's contained. The point is, it needs to be contained. You're opening up a can of worms, because some phone manufacturers, including Sony and... What's their face? Someone else is doing it. Some phone manufacturers are coming out and saying they have water-cooled phones, because their phone contains a heat pipe. But that is not, strictly speaking, true. A heat pipe contains a fluid, yes, and when it's cold, in one part of the heat pipe, it will be liquid, so they actually, I believe they lower the pressure inside them, so that the deposition point of the liquid actually gets lower anyway. So the idea is that, at a cold point in the heat pipe, that would be where your heat sink is, it will turn to liquid and wick back to the heat source, where it will evaporate and flow. So in a sense, yes, liquid is moving inside the heat pipe, but it will not achieve nearly the efficiency of a full-on liquid loop. Because it's a loop. Because... Is that the difference? A loop with a pump? Well, it's to do with conduction. So having more volume of water making contact with more surface area of copper heat sink is better. Having the water move at high speed is better. Again, having more water is better for absorbing little spikes in thermal output, because the water itself will take quite a bit of time to heat up, even if you don't have anything actively cooling it. So it would make something like a phone, if you could actually water cool it, and there was a significant volume of water inside, it would mean that when you start playing a game, it would take much longer to start thermal throttling, for example, because you'd have to heat up all that water. And water can absorb a lot of thermal energy before the temperature of it actually rises. Is there not a better liquid than water that can absorb even more heat? I think most heat pipes do use water. With some extra stuff in there. Some of them may use alcohols of some sort. I'm not a heat pipe expert, unfortunately. Alright, so let's talk about this water-cooled laptop. This is the GX800, the successor to the GX700. It can run on its own, just like its predecessor, but it can also clip into this quick-release enabled base that includes water cooling. This is great. So this is over on TechRadar. Positive things. Very powerful. Color customizable mechanical keyboard. Thermo-hydro-clocking unlocks. Overclocking for everything. Bad. Extreme power needs. Oh, really? Yeah, so describing the last one they released as absolutely mental, I think is probably an understatement. Mental in a good or a bad way? I think they just mean mental in a mentally insane way. Well, but like, is it good or bad? I'm a simple man. I have simple answers. It's heavy and expensive and powerful. It has a GTX980. Yeah, apparently this one has two 980s, which is... What? Really? That's insane. Hold on a second here. Two 980s stuffed in there? What? You sure? Yeah, apparently it has two 980s in it. The laptop actually comes with two 330-watt power supplies, meaning that this laptop... Actually, I had not gone far enough to realize it had two 980s in it. This laptop will consume as much power as a desktop. And be about as portable, really, as a desktop with a screen on the side panel. So make of that what you will. It's not the only ridiculous thing that Asus released at the show. The Zenbo proves that... This is a great headline from Engadget. Proves that our robot butler dreams remain just that. The promotional video for this thing is freaking creepy. Oh, wow, that face. They could have chosen any other face. Let me go ahead and move this down. There you go, so we can put this full screen. This thing is freaking... Here's the YouTube video. You guys don't even really need audio, but it's just so weird. It introduces all these characters or something, and then it shows how Zenbo helps them. Yeah, but it doesn't have arms. And then, well, he tells Grandpa to take his medication. But your phone could do that. He takes pictures with a terrible camera. But your phone could do that. Yes. But... They're all going to be waist-high level pictures. Then Grandpa falls down in this weird slow-mo sequence, and then Zenbo gives Mom a live view of how Grandpa fell down, and makes sure that Grandpa's okay and stuff. Look at him smiling while Grandpa falls. Can he recognize that a person has fallen down? Computer vision is a difficult thing to do. Yeah, I'm... What if a dog falls to the floor and just walks away? Will it be able to tell the difference? Yeah, I'm really not sold on this. It's like an 11-minute long video. Does it have any useful information? If you were looking to buy a Zenbo, and you were wondering about the things that it theoretically does, then yes, it contains a lot of useful information. Otherwise, I would say it's 11 agonizing minutes of, I sure wish that the Zenbo was a product that anyone could care about, and that Aziz hadn't spent their time doing something else. Here's the functionality it apparently has. It can detect faces. It can apparently help with cooking, because it can put recipes up on its screen, although I can't think of a reason that I would want a robot on the floor with my recipe on its face. It can also be on the counter, which is like, I could have a laptop to do that. It has built-in speakers for music. It can connect to smart devices like air-conditioners, lighting TVs, and connected door locks. Oh, I would not want to connect. It can move around independently, assuming that your house doesn't have any stairs. I'm falling, but I can't get up. And it will apparently learn and adapt to how you use it. Of course it will. So does the Mechanoid G15, and that thing was awful. One solution to getting your stupid butler upstairs would be a dumb waiter. Can we move on now? Yeah, we can move on. What else have we got here? Like robotics, you know, you would... There's some impressive hurdles that have been made, but this thing is way too early. There's no way that it's going to have the functionality that you would want from a robot assistant. Not even close. It doesn't have an arm. Give it one arm. That's all you need, hey, one arm? Well, I mean, that's where you start. You're so immature. I always forget. I don't know why. Indian customers hit hard on Nvidia for insane pricing of their 1080 graphics card. So the Founders Edition is supposed to be somewhere in the neighborhood of $6.99 US, with $5.99 being more like what you'd expect for regular models' non-reference cards. So on May 27th, it was officially released and officially available on Amazon.IN, one of the top three online shopping websites in India. Zotac, Gigabyte, and Asus apparently have their prices listed 57% to 87% higher than the price announced at Nvidia's launch event. So prices should be at around 47,000 rupees, but cards are listed around 71,500 rupees, or about 1,070 US dollars. I would love to give the benefit of the doubt and say Indian retailers probably screwed up the model number and the pricing columns. Very funny. But that's probably not what happened. The reality of it is, whether it's due to tariffs or taxes or any other wide variety of reasons, sometimes US pricing does not translate to other countries. With that said, this does look a little bit like pure gouging to me. You gotta, you know, you gotta gouge someone. So you know what, I would, let's do another straw poll here. I want to hear from you guys. Do US prices translate to where you live? Because honestly here in Canada, they pretty much do. In some cases, no. These are pricier here. Some things are, but computer components are generally, once you factor in exchange rate and factor in that shipping does just cost a little more up here, they are pretty darn close. You might not see the same like Black Friday deals, for example, but general pricing day to day is actually very, very close. So I want to hear from you guys, whether that's what you have observed where you're from. This is really cool. Have you checked out the elevated bus? No. Okay, scroll down to that topic and have a look and we'll make that our next one. But I want to show the straw poll results here first. So yeah, we've got a whopping 54% of you. Oh, I screwed up the title, but hopefully you guys were, hopefully you guys were listening while I was telling you about the title of it. Do US prices to where you live? We've got 53% of you saying no, 25% of you throwing away your vote, and only 22% of you saying yes, which given that I think over 22% of our viewership is in the US, would mean that some of our US viewers, either they all figured out that they shouldn't vote because they are from the US or they got a little confused. Sorry, I wasn't paying attention. I'm looking at this elevated bus. Yeah, this thing looks freaking, it looks really cool. Awesome. Comma, but I have some concerns. Yeah, I've got a handful of concerns too. So this is pretty cool. There's a YouTube video of it here. I'm just going to go ahead and pull this up. So this, there you go. It's not up. Oh, whoops, I'm sorry. Let's go ahead and share Linus's screen. So this is sort of a concept for an elevated bus. So the passengers sit up here, and the idea is that this would solve congestion problems by actually having it drive above the road, above cars on the road. Let me tell you though, if I was in a car and that thing passed me, I would be terrified. I would be like, whoa, suddenly I'm in a tunnel. I was going to turn. People are going to freak out when that thing goes over them. Yep, I mean people in bike lanes might get hit. Anyone in sort of a taller than normal vehicle might have a bit of a problem. Well, you'd have to, oh dear, you'd have to impose height limits on cars on certain roads. Yep. Yeah, you'd have to have the bars so you can't even enter. There are definitely some issues with the idea, but... Like it's a cool idea in theory maybe, but... If it was deployed strategically, I could see this being pretty cool. It will apparently be able to carry 1,200 passengers. It will be able to go over top of cars and let traffic pass underneath it. It runs on fixed rails along the road, and it had a scale model shown at the expo. So here in Vancouver-ish area, we have something called the SkyTrain, which is basically just a subway, but it's elevated, it's in the air, and it just goes over the roads. It does not interact with them. It's either over or under. So you never have to deal with it. It never has to wait at a light. But the cost of that is much higher. So they're estimating that this will cost one fifth what a subway would cost. Has anyone ever done this? Not that I'm aware of. So it's just a little model? Because I've seen this kind of thing before. It's just a little model for now. I would love to ride one of those. It'd be awesome. That would be cool. Like sitting in the front of that thing, just whipping over the cars underneath you, it would be like if bridges could drive. I don't imagine that it whips very much. Probably the cars under it are going to be going faster than this thing. It probably lumbers along. Well, the idea is to get around traffic. So you'd be on congested roads, right? What about when it comes up to a light? It's going to have to wait at the light. Right? What if you have two of these things? You would have to wait at the light. What if you've got the other cars? They can't pass through it. Unless you do columns. The cars would be faster off the line, but maybe the bus would go faster when they hit a obstruction of some sort. I don't know. I don't know, man. I like it. I think it's cool. It's cool, but is it practical? All right. Speaking of practical, I think that's pretty much it for the practical life of the show today. Is it? Let's give Taryn a big round of applause for being my co-host today. Yay, Taryn. Yay, Taryn. Wow, Twitch chat hates you. Do they? Oh, no. No, they're fine. Oh, you're looking at it. Never mind. I did not get away with that one there. And just so for those of you who have been wondering... Oh, yeah. We never explained....all stream, the reason for this is I was actually shooting my review of the Cat headphones from Brookstone. So I wanted a look that I felt like would appropriately go along with them. So I got all done up prior to hosting the review. And then I was jealous, so I put this on. Yeah. Pretty much. It's not much to it. Yeah. I look good in this. All right. Thanks, guys. See you next time. Same bat time, same bat channel. Yeah. Well, hopefully the intro works. Got people asking if you can take the ears off. No, I don't think so. Unless you cut them off. This wig is hot. I know. Wigs make your head surprisingly hot. It's all sweaty. Like, it is not a pretty thing. Well, I don't know if... Oh, there it goes. I think the one that...