 You already exist. Welcome to the WAN show where the people that we asked to set up our camera literally never get the headroom right for me and Luke. Literally never. Literally not once. We can get the shoulder width a little bit better. It's still really bad. But it has never ever once happened because I don't know what they're aiming at. Can I like, cane fix it? Yeah, like I have no idea what they're aiming at but it's clearly not me and Luke. Oh and I touched the focus one instead of the zoom one. Oh no. Alright so let's just do that. Let's just do that a little bit. On the WAN show this week we're going to have great topics like fixing your camera framing. Yeah. There we go. See, why do I ask anyone to come in here and help me with it at all? You should just film everything. You should be the new line sector's camera. What are you, Taryn? I'll be the new branding. Anything for you, Taryn. Alright so I'm finally back. It took me a little longer to get... Well, kinda. Sort of, yeah. Back for like a day. I wasn't really getting in. Not even a day. I got here like 40 minutes ago and then I'm literally flying out on Sunday so I'm not in for an entire day of work. I'm going to Munich. We're doing a thing with BMW. We're going to be checking out some of the tech on... Actually I don't know if I'm supposed to talk about what we're doing. Well we're doing a thing in Germany for an undisclosed company. For an undisclosed company. German company. Staffed by Germans. Or something. Or potentially other people. The point is don't worry too much about it. Why don't we go ahead and move right into our topic callouts for the day. So Bell Mobility sells the information of Canadians. Probably the information of yours truly as a Bell customer who actually recently rolled out Bell Company cell phone plans to everyone at LimeSquid. Yeah they know everything about all of us. For only the last couple months for most of you though. That's true. If that helps at all. About you for like a long time. Yep they know everywhere I've ever gone. And they read all your texts. For a long ass time. That's awkward. It's gotta be awkward. Well I mean really the ones that I sent to you are the only ones that are kind of awkward. Yeah that's how I know that they were awkward. But at least that's as awkward as it gets. That's true. So there's that. What else we got here for topics today? We also have China installing 3D printers in all 400,000 of its primary schools. That is freaking cool. That's cool and it's insane that they have 400,000 primary schools. But yeah that's actually awesome that they're installing those everywhere. We'll talk about that more after though. This is just the intro. Way to go. I almost went a little bit too far. My dock reloaded so I can't even see them. And AMD's financial results $180 million net loss in Q1. That is $180 million is a lot of money to not have. Yeah really. And then ASUS apparently is unveiling a watch that has 10 days of battery life. Ten days of battery. You know I used to have a watch that had like a year of battery life. I think yeah. It's kind of like the old. You know what's funny is. Okay you know what we'll get into this later. Let's roll the intro. Really? See I was telling you. So you gotta like remove it and then no it won't work at all. What? Yeah you have to or just not remove it but you have to drag another one in. So Squarespace is awesome. You can have websites that are more like vertical rectangle or horizontal rectangle than squares. You are so not helping. Whatever doesn't matter. Squarespace. No it's gonna be like super loud. Yeah what? Sorry for your ears. How do you change it? How do you change it? Ahhhhhhh. That's probably better. No when you're done do nothing. Do not rewind. Thank you. Alright let's text it. They stood on the couch eventually. Alright Squarespace. Linda. Fresh books. And we're back to us. Alright so that was the abysmal intro. I think that was the most successful intro we've ever had. I love this show. Alright let's get into our first topic here. This is super exciting. So I'm gonna go ahead and are you super excited? Yeah. So we're gonna go ahead and do a little bit of a Let's get into our first topic here. Are you handling link posting today? Yes I am. Alright so I'm gonna go ahead. I don't like actually do it. I like the Japan Land Show. Where it like literally never got done. Alright so the where is our other scene here? There we are. I feel weird if I'm not kind of looking at me in the corner as I look and make sure the article is sitting there. You have to look at yourself all the time? The Chinese government to put. No you actually. The Chinese government to put 3D printers in all 400,000 elementary schools by next year. That's pretty sick. So this is incredible for a number of reasons. Number one is so compared to the US that is what does that work out to? There's about 70,000 US schools so. Yeah about 70,000 US elementary schools. Like five to six times as many elementary schools. Actually pretty nuts. That's probably around $400 to $3,000 per printer. So that's actually a freaking lot of money. Yup metric but ton of money. But and obviously the source here is 3dprint.com. So it's gonna be pretty positive about that. So it's gonna be like yeah 3D printing. Everything possible is good. Yes cool. This was posted on the forum by Victoria's Secret by the way. But I actually completely agree with everything that they're saying. 3D printing is gonna be a life skill for the kids of the next generation in the same way that us being able to use a printer is a life skill. And you know we take it kind of for granted that you know anyone in the anyone our age knows how to probably maybe install a printer driver. At the very least use the you know the print properties dialogue to select the printer that they want to print from. Not fix the printer. Hopefully change you know landscape to portrait or something like that. Like you're gonna have these rudimentary skills. And then some of them yeah. So to like my kids being able to configure they're gonna laugh when you know I don't know how to you know preheat the filament or whatever. I'll show you how to set up the printer although you'll probably be fine. And you know what it's not even it's not even I mean by the time these are rolling out in homes I highly doubt we're gonna be dealing with the same filament based 3D printing technologies. There's some other way cooler stuff out there. And as pricing comes down on that stuff as patents expire over the next you know sort of 10 to 25 years as they're apt to do there's gonna be some really exciting really cool stuff available in the home. And younger kids are gonna completely take for granted that this technology is readily accessible and easy to use. We did that for a bunch of stuff though. Unless you don't give them any access to it. I see where you're going with that. This is where I'm going with this. If young kids don't have access to 3D printing technology and aren't playing with it because that's what it's all about. That's what learning is about when you're a kid. What did you do with a printer when you were a kid? You printed out ASCII art. Or like a picture of your face that you scanned on the flatbed scanner. That's right. That you were also learning how to use. Or like okay like my buddy whose dad had a color dot matrix. Oh dad whoa. I don't know if I've ever even seen a color dot matrix. So color dot matrix. So like we had these like six page long because remember how the pages used to fold according style. We had these six page long color print outs of our names that we could put on our walls. That's cool. Like that's the kind of thing that feels stupid to us as adults because we take that technology for granted. Especially dot matrix. Because we played with it as kids. So I sit there and I look at that going well if 3D printing is the future of rapid manufacturing and the future of being a maker and being able to design things and innovate. It might be the future of just like owning a home. And China is setting up their entire next generation of children to understand this technology and take it for granted the same way that we take the things that we had for granted. Then you got to kind of look at that and go you know hey are we investing our money correctly right now. And Obama kind of agrees with the Linus side of things where he has said apparently in a State of the Union address that he well not I don't have any necessary quotes but apparently he said that 3D printing is very important. Yep he definitely talked about the importance of 3D printing. I think the point it was mentioned in the article on 3Dprint.com but he even brought it up in a State of the Union address. Something to do with bringing manufacturing back to the US and this is going to be really important and all that stuff. But yeah I think that we are underestimating the importance of 3D printing because it's so expensive. But China is going ahead and they're getting ahead of the curve. They're going yep we're going to get everyone educated about this while it's still really expensive so when this stuff starts to hit the mainstream and we're going to be part of accelerating it to the mainstream. When it hits the mainstream our population is going to know how to take advantage of this technology and compete better against their rivals. I mean imagine if everyone on your workforce knew how to use a 3D printer and if they had a great idea and they could kind of just bring it to you and all it costs is you know your 10 bucks or 20 bucks. Hey who the heck knows how big of a thing they're printing. However much filament they're using. If we get a 3D printer I'm having filament rations. Because I am sure that there are people. Taryn and I. Mainly Taryn. Taryn would print endless Lego. Like endless. Well I can't even call it Lego. Like Lego knock off. Taryn-go. Yeah I was just going to say. Tergo. Tergo. Tergo actually sounds kind of fun. It's like. It's not like the Chinese knock off. It's like the skinny white dude knock off. Tergo. I'd play with tergos. Where was I going with this? Taryn should make some tergos. Let's go with nowhere. This was posted by Alex Goes High. Original article here is from Neowind.net. And this is one of those things where it's like. We've already spoken a lot about this. Yeah. Part of me is like wow. That's pretty cool. The other part of me is like. Really? Wow. That's pretty ridiculous. Okay. Now hold on a second. So basically Sharp announces a 5.5 inch 4K display. 806 PPI. 806 PPS per inch. Which gets people like me pretty peepin excited. PPS per inch? PPS per inch. It's like RIP in peace. And that's very important. That's how people rest forever. So basically Luke and I have kind of talked about how on phones in particular. This whole 5.5 inch thing. This is rumored to be showing up in devices as soon as late 2016. Early 2017. And we've talked in depth about the difference between 1080p and 1440p on a device like this. And how there isn't. And moving to 4K is just using up more computational resources for no apparent reason other than to have a bigger, badder spec than the next guy. This is one of those things that I admire about Apple. I talk about this a lot. I hate on Apple a lot when they do stuff that's really stupid. But I also. We'll talk about the watch later. Apparently it's. Okay whatever. We'll talk about the watch later. But I also have to give them mad respect when they just buck the industry trend and do the correct thing. Apple was correct to move the smartphone industry towards high resolution displays, high density displays. They were also correct when they said you know what it's actually fine the way it is. And a high contrast display with good pixel response times and accurate color and all these things that actually matter to the experience. That's more important than us just cranking pixel density for no tangible benefit. And you're going to get better battery life out of that. You're going to get better performance in games when you're running at a lower resolution. Especially if there's no reason to be running at a higher resolution. I don't necessarily agree with what Apple does with that extra power savings where they just make the device thinner instead of putting like a nice wonk and battery in it. But I have to respect them for doing the right thing versus doing the thing that gives them a more impressive spec sheet. But I'm going to throw something at you here. My but is who cares about putting this in phones. This is going to be all about. Yes okay you have the same but as me. Dad HMD. Mine's a little smaller. We don't really know yet where the perceivable stoppage is going to be for VR because I haven't really looked at a 4K screening VR before. I don't think many people have. So there's that. So like we might already be there. It might be like 1440p to 4K might not really be. You've seen 1440p though. I have and it feels like there could be more but there's other stuff that they could do to fix that too. Part of the problem with a lot of demos right now is they're mainly tech demos. So you'll know people aren't working on it but at the same time you're not interacting with it. Yeah. Huge problem. Yeah exactly. And there's people really high end in VR that have said that they want to see 4K screens. Yeah. I'm kind of leaning towards. We do need that. So I'm excited for this because of that not even remotely interested in it for folks. I mean I you're going to have to correct me if I'm wrong here but haven't we even heard 8K as the magic magic where it's going to look like enough number. Yeah. We're so far away from the GPU power to drive that though. Yes. And because you need the minimum FPS minimum FPS is so important for VR it's ridiculous because if people are like I want to end up doing VR benchmarks eventually and what I might even be interested in reporting is just minimums. Interesting just because that drop is going to be where people get motion sickness that drop is exactly what you're going to notice all the time. We're going to have to start doing the benching completely differently like we're going to have to go out to an HDMI splitter and we're going to have to go to a capture PC because methods like FRAPS simply don't capture instantaneous FPS well enough. So we're going to have to have a look. We're going to have to explore yeah exactly we're going to have to explore how we're going to benchmark stuff for the VR space but that's not coming now I guess so that's fine. Anyways so yeah it's exciting it's apparently an IXO panel which doesn't actually tell us a whole lot about how good it is that's just indium gallium something something something zinc oxide or I think something along those lines that just tells us a material that Sharp's using for it because I've seen IXO panel displays that look great and I've seen IXO panel displays that look good but not as good so yeah that doesn't tell us everything that we need to know. What I'm really interested to see though is does that mean that we're going to get 8K you know 11 inch monitors? Right. That's the same pixel density? This is one of those things you know what maybe an engineer can explain this to me if anyone out there is a display engineer you know hit me up on Twitter or something not during the show because if you look at my Twitter feed during the show it's ridiculous but hit me up and let me know if I'm a complete idiot because I think aside from yielding yields being exponentially lower so it should be it should be something something two two whatever they're called two powers low two powers worse because you've got four versus one so you've doubled it twice in terms of your odds of having a defect because you've quadrupled the size so aside from that when we have the technology is there any reason why we can't make if we can make a 4K display that's 15 inches is there a reason that we can't make an 8K display that's 30 inches that's that's kind of what I would like to understand a little bit better and there's probably a reason. Yeah I'm just obviously an idiot like why did why did Apple have to do so much work on the backlight of the retina iMac to get the brightness high enough when they've got already we've already got pixel densities like that on phones that are also super thin and also have backlights so yeah some someone someone can come and can school me and I'm always more than happy to be schooled speaking of getting schooled coolax gaming posted on the forum and this original article here is from an on tech. I already have it. You are on it today. I had it posted in the chat so I could post it quickly once you said it. AMD posts a Q1 2015 result of a $118 million net loss so a lot of that sort of discussion in the forums about you know the Xbox one and the PlayStation 4 being the savior of AMD looks like they're not the savior of anyone unfortunately you know all this all this talk about sort of you know AMD being a great sort of performer at the value end and that kind of stuff is true but unfortunately that doesn't do a whole lot of good for their bottom line as a company I mean you see a lot of people kind of going oh Intel charges so much Intel is a profitable company if AMD could charge you let me see what what percentage their loss was I let me have a look hold on hold on so oh no that's the non generally accepted I think they had it broken down by yeah computing and graphics so computing and graphics on revenues of $532 million lost $75 million so AMD processors AMD CPUs and GPUs need to be 30% more expensive for AMD to be even making like a 10 to 15% profit on it so you got to ask yourself if you're an AMD supporter if they jack their prices 30% tomorrow would you still buy it can they be competitive with the technology they have today and that's something that many folks in the industry have been kind of looking at AMD and wondering where is the light at the end of this at the end of this tunnel I mean they have a new APU coming but we've heard that story every time they've had a new APU coming that's supposed to be the new the new savior it's gonna be way faster it's like that's great you know who else is coming out with way faster APU's Intel which is a real problem for me that yeah I mean that Intel doesn't call it an APU because apparently they think that that naming is irrelevant for whatever reason Intel just kind of didn't go yeah we'll support calling this an APU but Intel's building CPUs with more and more and more powerful GPUs all the time you look at die shots of the latest Intel chips it's like you got so if you got a quad core CPU for example or dual core CPU you got like your CPU over here and like your GPU over here it's actually pretty crazy Intel is building APU's they're they're stuffing up quite heavily because for a while there was no contest at all yep and now oh yeah Intel is like such a joke the one thing that AMD still really lords over Intel on the integrated graphics side is drivers yeah and there was a really great post I want to say it was on reddit from a guy who who interned at Nvidia for a while and he was talking about just how broken games are and how the only reason any of it works at all is the years and years and years of expertise that the driver teams at Nvidia and AMD have just fixing this stuff over and over and over again and just just going in and fixing just fundamental completely basic stuff and game by game by game by game and the fact that they have that entire backlog of fixes means that a new company that tried to you know let's say let's say Qualcomm decided they wanted to build a desktop GPU or let's say Intel decided they wanted to build you know codename let's call it rarily or rarably or whatever something like that let's say they wanted to build a graphics like a graphics core it would be nearly impossible for them to catch up to teams of dozens of people working for literally years on literally just that yeah fixing broken game look at look at GTA 5 there was a specific like the name of the driver was GTA 5 for both teams driver that came out yeah AMD has a beta GTA 5 driver and Nvidia has a GTA 5 driver and this is with what by most accounts seems to be a pretty good port yeah straight up development yeah like they actually did work to make the PC version it's really smooth different we have our video coming out soon different yeah actually you've been hard at work on that haven't you there's a bunch more more benchmarking numbers than we normally have and with a call out at the end for what else you might want to see for future gaming benchmarks I'm trying to take gaming benchmarks away from just graphics card showdowns and we're gonna try and make it like a how does this game you just gave away everything I did what other what other what other thing what other component of the system affects game performance we didn't fully explore it I'm wondering exactly what they want to see sure they'll tell me in the video it's cool I don't mind spoiling it they'll get it soon yeah no I already had some ideas so okay all right look just spoil it because I'm sure they're gonna be giving us a bunch of crap GTA is pretty freaking good what I did was I checked course I recently released course for gaming so I did like a course for GTA 5 part of the GTA 5 video and like half the comments under the video or why didn't you test this game why didn't you test that game you know what just calm your panties we tested quite a few now we tested GTA 5 all right we're adding that to the slew of things so we tested it with two cores two cores hyper threaded four cores four cores hyper threaded six cores hyper threaded and eight cores I'm not gonna spoil everything we do 36 cores hyper threaded at some point oh for anyone who doesn't sorry I'll talk about this after you go am I spoiling it more or should I make you guys should watch the video okay so for those of you who don't follow on Instagram and Twitter and where I've been posting some of this stuff Intel confirmed we are getting two and I feel terrible right now because I've completely forgotten the model number because I don't actually really keep here we go I don't really keep up on the like four thousand six hundred dollar processors that much they're sort of out of my price range if you know what I mean but we are getting two 2699 v3 18 core processors these are 2.3 gigahertz base frequency 18 core processors and if you do a little bit of funny math it does not work this way if I ever see any of you guys doing this to calculate the relative performance of a CPU I am giving you guys so much crap about it because it is not the right way to do it but you're doing it right now I'm doing it right now but if we went 2.3 gigahertz which is the minimum I don't even know what it's gonna turbo at normally times 18 that gives us an equivalent raw sort of processing I know I shut up I know 4.1 gigahertz if if and you have to you have to admit this is right it has 45 megs of cache okay like that's more cache than my first computer had RAM like my first computer that I owned was like a Pentium 90 with 32 megs of RAM it has 50% more RAM than my first computer so anyway anyway if you had a program that scaled linearly scaled perfectly if you did if you did if you did it would be the equivalent of having a 40 gigahertz CPU in your system which is bananas ridiculous it requires DDR4 server RAM dimension we're getting to them so we're putting two of those in super micro and Asus are are battling it out for who's gonna have the motherboard in our system I'm kind of tempted to just ask them both to send them and then if the super micro one's good and has 10 gigabit onboard LAN which is a big deal for me because we're going 10 gigabit in the in the new office if it's good and it's good then maybe the super micro wins it but the Asus one is Asus and there's that trust there I've never really used super micro products extensively in the past although it's server stuff I mean I use super micro stuff it's really solid I haven't used it as much as Asus but JJ made some compelling arguments for some extra features they have in the UEFI I know it's JJ but JJ also isn't just full of crap I'm not saying he is I'm just saying JJ could make compelling arguments for anything and they would probably be true that's the thing is JJ finds the value JJ finds the way way yeah I've had a long day day it'll be okay K oh man I'm gonna leave it I'm gonna leave it there this thing's on our next video our little tagline thing on the bottom should just be like don't calculate it that way oh yeah I've got to add some more to the dock yeah oh man it's some repeat ones yeah I get excited to see them because I don't know what they're gonna be so when they repeat even I'm like oh well you know where those come from is I know Ed put some of them in but like a lot of them are like me waking up me waking up in the middle of the night and being like and then like putting it in my phone so that I remember to add it to the dock later that's where like a lot of stuff comes from so anyway on our next day sues coverage video the tagline should be JJ knows the way way you know what you keep making that joke and you'll pay pay you're right they say so what are we using 36 hyper threaded cores for we're talking 72 threads yeah we have a plan I don't know if it's gonna work but we have a plan so Adobe products so we're talking premiere and to a greater extent after effects have a feature called render farm feature whatever you want to call it screw you you can make a render farm okay so they support render farms which basically allows you to take a folder and that designate that as a watch folder so then what you do is you drop a project file into that folder and any render farm machines are gonna watch that folder and they go hey that's a project I haven't rendered I better go render that now so the idea is that even though everyone here has like pretty powerful workstation six core extreme editions 32 gigs of RAM all that stuff certain projects can bring them to their knees like Ed was rendering out a project the other day that he had to disable his quadro for some reason and only use the Titans in order to render out this project and then he was he was he was saturating his one gig of it LAN connection as well so there is a reason that we're moving to 10 gig of it LAN on all the workstations properly this time and and that we are building that 24 SSD rate array server that's gonna be for everyone to work off of at the same time and then this render farm machine is so that no matter what those guys are rendering out no matter what it is their machine is not what's being bogged down by it so their machine can focus on real-time playback in you know let's say DaVinci resolve and then that render machine is outputting whatever project they just finished or Taryn with his lightning fast editing doesn't have to pause to wait for something to output although he might have to pause for RSI reasons but yeah well that's that's a whole that's a whole other that's a whole other thing so so we want to have a look at whether it will scale to 36 cores and and and we just want to we want to look at that as a as a workflow because I look at what other video production guys are doing and and ones that are bigger than us and should therefore probably be more organized than us and I kind of go you guys just have like external hard drives with your projects are you insane like are you completely insane you don't have a centralized you're using Thunderbolt Thunderbolt is not a proper solution for professional use that's like prosumer and being marketed as professional use I've never been a proponent of Thunderbolt for like video editors and creative professionals that's that's local storage that's just like USB with like gold tin foil around it's like it's like a dressed up still it's like it's like Firewire it's the addition addition it's USB cable yeah it's new Firewire it's I don't I don't view that as a way to work especially in a team environment where you want to be able to share resources like the fact that now we have a PCI Express SSD in our current server that everyone can put their caching files on has sped up the workflow dramatically whenever someone needs to load someone else's project instead of storing all those files locally on their own machines or on a USB drive or some stupid thing like that they fire the file up just like that they can open up the project instead of waiting for the for the audio to conform or whatever else the case may be so I'm really excited about the potential to centralize all of our data and all of our processing as much as we possibly can. So I want to go back to actually the topic that we were talking about before anyway that's just kind of teasing the the 36 core Xeon thing that I'm like super amped up about right now but this is really cool this was posted by DBZ over on the forum at Beyond 3D and a lot of people have this perception that the AMD versus Nvidia battle has been kind of a battle of two titans over the years. Sorry, I shouldn't. Oh dear. I could use a better word than titan. A battle of two behemoths over the years but it's not really that way so going away this is like such a cool chart. Have you seen this? Yes. Fantastic. All the way from Q3 2003 and you know what I love about the timing of this? My first graphics card was a 9600 Pro. I had was it a 9600 XT? I had something from back then. So this was the first discrete graphics card that I ever bought with my own money so this is like the entire history of as long as I've been paying attention so while we go through here I actually maybe I'll point out all the cards I've ever owned because that might be kind of fun but basically it shows the market share percentages for AMD versus Nvidia historically across all these years so if you look the only time AMD was ever ahead of Nvidia was in like just after what I would consider to be their golden age when they were rising you know the 9500 non-pro you know i-memory configuration soft modding days so back around the time of the x800 series x850 series they had a really strong period here when Nvidia completely crapped the bed with the 5000 series so that kind of that kind of took you can see that these things take a little while to even kick in too because Nvidia came back with 6800 which were very good cards and that's still it's amazing how slow perception is to catch up to the actual products in the market anyway that's neither here nor there AMD was ahead for a period of looks like about a year and then since then it's actually been kind of frightening I mean even at times when AMD has had very very compelling products like I personally really liked the 3870 thought that was a great product and if we go back and we find find where that launched so here's the x2 which we put yeah 3870 right here AMD was limping along with 37% market share at that time and that was when 3870 was up against um up against I guess 90 80 8800 cards so the 8800 you know what curiously I can't find the 8800 GT on this stupid thing which is like the most important card that existed within this era I'm not even gonna lie that's the only thing I've been looking for yeah it's not on GTS yeah yeah I found GTS I found 9800 GT which is the same card yeah but anyway that's neither here nor there so anyway you go along you kind of go AMD's been doing okay you know 35 to 40 percent market share this is what's happened in the last couple of quarters that is some terrifying stuff right there what incentive does Nvidia have to continue to improve anything when they have 76 percent market share because let me tell you guys the way business works is you invest in areas where you see growth for your company which is why I was with it was it the WAN show in Japan yeah when in Japan or did I even talk about some of the show or did I just talk about this to the Omron guys it was all the investment that Nvidia has been doing and like the fact that Elon Musk went to one of their conferences because they've been working on Tegra for cars yeah a huge focus for them has been stuff for cars because what are they gonna do sell another 24 percent more widgets be a monopoly and all of a sudden have to deal with a bunch of antitrust nonsense and monopoly monopoly laws like there isn't even really any incentive for them to to push any harder against AMD like at all they don't they don't want them to just go out of business tomorrow I'm fairly certain that would be bad so forget where I was going with this right so is it any great mystery that in spite of AMD having cards that on paper look pretty good for the dollar that they're doing poorly if people refuse to buy them so everyone out there collectively is not buying the cards and that's why that's why AMD is in the situation that they're that they're in today let's go ahead and I do want to do that thing though why don't we why don't you and I each pick out pick out all the all the cards that we had over my problem is some of the earlier ones were not my computer specifically they were like family computers I can just do it then my first dedicated computer had an 8800 GTS okay she is on here so you're quite a bit later all right well yeah I had earlier cards like I had a 9600 I think XT but those were in right so my first card was an all in wonder 9600 pro yeah sick from there I upgraded to an x800 pro so I think that's right around here from there I went to an x850 pro which should be somewhere in here even if it's not listed there from there I went to an x850 XT platinum edition so there there oh no it's an 850 XT platinum edition yep there it is X from there I went to a 7800 GT from there I had a 78 I had two 7800 GTX's at one point I picked them up off a guy who was selling them for way too little I ran in my system for three days and then I was like afraid to hold them anymore because I literally didn't have that kind of money at the time so I needed to flip them I just bought them so I could like game like that have the experience and I got rid of those things right away yeah yeah so then I went to I had yeah I didn't go from I didn't upgrade the 78 you know I had a 6800 GT for a few days as well I bought a chain tech one back when like chain tech existed I was kind of I was actually kind of a kind of an AMD guy like back in the back in the earlier days like the cards that actually stayed in my rig were generally AMD until I went to a 7900 GT and then I went to two of those and then I went to two 7950 GT's and SLI that was my that was my SLI era from there I went to two 8800 GTs 320 megs from there I went to two 8800 GTs 640 meg cards from there I went to 8000 series for a little while I stuck with the 8000 series for quite some time and then you know what I actually downgraded from a full desktop okay and then I went with a small machine for a bit and I threw a 3870 in it because didn't you have I thought you had that crazy 8800 GTX with the wrong cooler on it or something ah wrong cooler on it was that the right cooler can't remember the crazy blower one that was too tall oh oh yeah that wasn't a personal rig card okay yeah that was a card okay so then I went with a 3870 and the reason for that was D tech had their fusion GFX which was perfectly compatible with the built-in like unisync that was already on the 3870 so all you had to do was buy a GPU only water block and I had a liquid cooled Silverstone Sugo SG01 where I dremeled out the top of the case and put a 320 millimeter rat on the top ran the tubes down the back and then inside through a couple of holes that I draw that was a pretty cool little rig but the problem was that it just was too loud so from there I went to let's see it's a 3870 I want to say I went to GTX 260 from there I had a 260 in my mineral rig for a really long time four or five years then I went to two 260s then I think I stuck with that for quite some time because not a whole lot came out for a while my wife actually still has a 5870 ifinity edition that was a really cool card like back then six mini display port outputs are you freaking kidding me I mean the tech demos they did with it were stupid because that card I mean even old games that card couldn't drive six 1080p displays and actually game not to mention that gaming on six displays is dumb because you've got a bezel right down the middle of everything no matter what it's just you either have like this crazy long one right down the middle this way or you have a whole bunch vertically and remember ifinity in portrait didn't exist back then so there was no five displays in portrait so the card just like didn't make an ounce of sense so from there I want to say I went to a single single 470 or something along those lines then I had a my next card was a 480 here it gets blurry because this is where I started this is where I started being pretty heavy into NCIX tech tips and so the line between what card was in my rig and what card was on the bench was very blurry so it's true so personal like personal rig card at that time I've got to say was it a 580 I think I had a 580 at some point I had a 590 at one point I know I know that and then and then I went Titan from there and so so you can tell that I used to be one of those guys that was upgrading their graphics card every single time something new dropped and something that I thought was really interesting about this graph going going back to again actually I'm just gonna drop us on there one more time is look at all these cards look at the density of cards and then all of a sudden it starts to thin out a lot 2011 hits and it just kind of went away yeah it used to be really fun to upgrade your graphics card every six months and like there's bigger changes too huge change like the lack of density here is also important in something that doesn't show in the graph which is the amount of improvement between the cards compared to some jumps previously yeah I mean the 5700 ultra is basically a direct x8 card let's let's not kid ourselves the 5950 is like barely dx9 like barely Nvidia abandoned that thing so fast that hardware was like bad that was that that 5000 series stuff was some bad hardware and then so you you jump ahead to first direct x10 card what was that the 8800 GTX if I recall correctly oh no it might have actually been the 2900 XT who was first but I don't remember I don't remember anyway so so that that era that that is like that is huge differences in the way the graphics cards work I mean that's that's going from a graphics card just being for video games to a graphics card being for video games and even the beginning of CUDA I mean look at all the innovation that happens here and then now we have like faster CUDA it's sad and GPU boost we do have GPU boost I guess there's that which like does weird things yeah does do weird things at least you've got that in common with it oh I know about your weird things hey it's the UPS guy our favorite person that's always a good sign we know them all now yeah I know right the FedEx guy wants me to build him a computer he's like so do you have a deal on a computer I'm like I don't know man I got like parts of people are always asking me this they're like like my like my father-in-law is like oh one of my friends wants to buy a computer do you have any computers I'm like yeah but are they appropriate no probably not like someone who wants to buy the iMac oh yeah I heard about that that's good all right let's make it go away yeah if I never have to see it again then that'll be a good thing oh he has two packages for us today I didn't see him for a second I was like wow is it for someone else no way it's always us yeah all right this is posted by Michael McCallis on the forum and we've got two source links here and I know NGadget is the original one but I love John Rettinger so much we're gonna pull up his website instead the Techno Buffalo link is already the one that's posted in Twitch chat he's such a nice guy yeah I love John so and you know the funny thing is is is the article on Techno Buffalo here just straight up refers to the original source being and according to NGadget the Vivo watch offers anyway so the point is the point is Asus is teasing the Vivo watch and there's a couple of things that are notable about this number one is the design looks an awful lot like the Apple watch doesn't it yeah I think watches are gonna get really similar though to be honest yes yes you're right and you could make the argument that the Apple watch looks very similar to every other bloody thing that's strapped to your wrist and told you the time since the dawn of time itself so so you know like I get that but it really does look very similar if you put the crown on it yeah took away the Asus logo you could tell me that's an Apple watch yeah I'd be like oh yeah it's not gold that's weird they didn't spend enough money on it yeah exactly is it the addition edition or no so there's a couple cool things about this one number one is that actually it looks very classy it looks as classy as the Apple watch not quite to my personal taste I actually very much prefer the more utilitarian look of something like the LG G watch are and if I'm gonna go with something that looks a little bit nicer I don't I like something a little more industrial looking and square like the like the pebble steel a lot of people have remarked that I'm back to the pebble steel not for any particular reason other than that I dropped my G watch our charger and it's proprietary and I haven't gotten around to replacing it yet so I broke it so yeah there's that and you know what going back to the pebble steel after having been away from it for so long has made me realize they've made a lot of improvements for one thing it's really snappy now like it's like really responsive now yeah and two as much as I really like Android Wear and I'm gonna go back to Android Wear at the earliest opportunity because I really like being able to interact via voice for quick text responses and stuff like that as much as I like Android Wear I don't feel like the way that it's integrated with Android really has that much of a value right now I think that I think that pebble in spite of their proprietary third party operating system is able to give me as compelling a value if the hardware was better and I'm really excited to check out the pebble time if the hardware was better they're able to give me a very compelling experience even though you know they don't tie directly into iOS the way that an Apple watch would or directly into Android the way that an Android Wear watch would let's not let's not get them too too stoked yet let's just kind of stash it here for now but yes we will definitely be doing that put that on the shelf it's a replacement for the giveaway one okay so anyway 10 day battery life so that that leads me really well into the other exceptional thing about the Vivo watch so it's gonna be a very fitness oriented thing which I personally give exactly zero cares about but what I think is interesting is that it's not Android Wear not Android Wear this time so that's not just I don't know I don't know that Asus is like my sort of has the best track record as far as building their own operating systems operating systems for things goes but I am a little bit more we don't like the AI sweet thing so much but the UEFI setup is quite good that's true so that's a very different I don't know it could be fine that's true so it could be fine I'm reserving judgment yeah but the point was if I hadn't gone back to the pebble steel recently and kind of realized all over again that I don't need to have Android with Android Apple OS with Apple OS I would be a lot more close minded about this but as it is I kind of want to I kind of want to give it a shot yeah I kind of want to try it out yeah that's cool if you want me to test the fitness stuff I can do that yeah as long as my knees aren't totally busted I'll leave that to you yeah you should probably you should probably give an update while I get this ready or have you they have you told them to I not exactly you don't have to I showed them the cane I'm an old person I screwed up my knees doing squats there's issues with personal trainer conflicts and all this other stuff and blah blah blah someone should have been doing whatever anyways my knees are super messed up right now but it's not the end of the world I have some fairly minor cartilage issues in both of my knees and I have muscle muscle bruising and some other stuff so they're a little little not doing great right now but I'm doing some weird new age stuff like foam rolling and crap that my physiotherapist told me to do and I'm working on it so I'll be fine ETA a couple weeks it'll be right yeah it's hard to go upstairs though and there's a lot of stairs in this house so that's been a little bit of an issue but people like Nick have been hooking me up so it's okay fewer stairs at the new place that'll be good in fact no stairs until we build up the upstairs so there's that but we probably won't be there until I'm done doing this all right so we are gonna do a super special live unboxing we each get one oh that's fun I don't have a knife me either so I can't use my cane I have a bottle cap thing which was for fizzy water not beer I have my hello kitty key I was flying recently I have not been home yet I was like if that thing started to fail you would have ordered another one so what the hell happened my my two knives that I normally have on me are not on me which makes sense my professional unboxing knives there's actually three boxes but this is pretty much the most exciting package that we're gonna receive until the zions show up look at all of them and this is like each one of these things is two so I'm gonna spread them out a little bit they're all SSDs so I'll show you one properly Kingston just gave us the straight hookup for the new server so like all of all of all the files I literally can't even hold them all I literally can't even that's about all there is to say about it we have 24 960 gig KC series SSDs that we are going to be installing actually you know what I should have I should have gone in I should have gotten up when when you were buying time for me here you can open this last box because I have to go get three other very important pieces of this as well I don't know if I told you that those arrived yes is this the more oh it's just more SSDs it's even more oh my god it's even more okay give me a moment I'll try to stack them all now it's it's more as he just said I'm gonna try to stack them into like space saving way so I'm gonna stack them like this which is really the density of one even though it's two so I want to point that out real quick and then I'm gonna try and stack all okay now and play Minecraft with this is these so this is actually a really important part of the puzzle as well now normally when you do an SSD rate array you reach the you reach an internal bottlenecks on your controller or PCI Express before you can actually run out of you know SATA ports to plug more and more solid-state drives into because these things are so high performance I mean each of these is good for in the neighborhood of half a gigabyte per second so you go ahead and you throw 24 of them in an array and we're talking 12 gigabytes per second of theoretical raw read and write speeds what what can handle that kind of bandwidth so you're not going to be using your onboard SATA controller on your motherboard or anything like that so we actually got not one not two but three LSI mega ray 9271 8i SAS cards although they'll be running in SATA mode with these particular SSDs but these are so we have three separate rate controllers so we can overcome the internal bottlenecking of even a high-end standalone rate controller card usually isn't really a problem once you get to the rate the like dedicated card it's usually fine it's usually just when it's on the motherboard you know you could potentially have an issue with magnetic drives yeah you're gonna run into bottlenecks pretty quick I mean you start adding more than three SSDs to an Intel onboard raid solution and you're not you're not gonna be getting that's what I'm saying SSDs on onboard can still cap it pretty quick but those you don't usually cap cards very quickly so this is gonna be sick this is gonna be basically I think what I'm gonna go with is a 20 terabyte raid 6 with a hot spare and then we actually had Kingston send 25 you know whatever hot spare SSD so for those of you who don't know a hot spare allows the array to be rebuilt automatically if one of the drives were to fail or drop out of the array for whatever reason and then we actually have them send 25 so we're gonna have a cold spare as well so if a drive fails and the hot spare kicks in we pull that out we throw in the cold spare and we have now a hot spare that our cold spare becomes now a lot of people talk about how raid is sort of dead and and this is a conversation that gets brought up a lot raid is dead for certain applications and it's amazing how many people saw our 100 terabyte server and said why are you running raid I never said I was running raid never once did I say I was running raid and there was another thing I posted an Instagram picture of me doing some testing on it why are you running Windows on a file server I'm not running Windows on a file server I'm running Windows on the client so that I can transfer files because our clients are gonna be Windows because they're video editing machines like the fact that people just assume that anyway so the point is the problem with raid they should make the internet the ass net assume that they assume that it's short for ass net GTA you can steal that in your next game if you want so the problem with raid bringing us back on topic is that if you have a drive fail and you've got let's say each of your drives is six terabytes like that like that 30 drive or 27 drive system that we have downstairs each of your drives is six terabytes there is every so often the laws of probability state that you're gonna have a bit flip and you're gonna have data corruption and once your drives reach a certain capacity the odds of if that drive fails trying to rebuild that drive without one of your other drives failing during intensive reading become so great that you'll basically you're basically guaranteed to have your array fail just from trying to rebuild it every time now in practice we have not found that to be the case we have we have a large three terabyte drive array with consumer like not that like I have refer drives in there I'm a bad person we're doing it properly this time though I promise and we have rebuilt that array lots of times and in theory you know the theory crafting mathematicians on the internet would suggest that a three terabyte drive is far too big for even a raid six and blipity blipity blopity and the point is we've been lucky or it's fine but one way or another we are running ZFS 2 this time around so we have three pools of nine drives each of which can sustain two drive failures and then the way that ZFS handles rebuilding drive failures is different in such a way as you don't have the odds of the drives failing etc etc so yeah we're kind of doing everything properly this time but bringing it back to the SSDs these are low enough capacity and high enough speed that you can rebuild an array extremely quickly on them so and these are only for our like our actual daily work server we are going to be doing thanks to all the IO that we're going to have with these bad boys like I am expecting multiple gigabytes per second of raw performance from this array with all the IO we're going to have we're going to have another server like another pool somewhere elsewhere on the network connected via 10 gigabit that is going to be doing we haven't decided exactly how often but maybe hourly dumps from the SSD array that everyone is working off of at the same time because it's going to have mad IO's I'm not going to go too far into it because none of it is solidified but with that new system that you and I were just talking about it can be like way faster you think so? Like all the time really? Yeah. Well there you go so we're going to have I don't know I should just go straight up RAID zero on it then no I shouldn't that's really stupid 24 drive RAID zero is straight stupid with that said my 8 drive RAID zero in my personal rig. Did it it's it's it's it's you still have that right? Yeah it's 100% fine. Yeah exactly. But it's these are actually going to be used the way that my personal rig doesn't get used like they're going to be hammered. So that's a little bit different yeah overall written data is going to be quite different. Holy cow it is after 6. It is we started really late. How is that even possible? We started really late. We are on page 2 of 8 in the dock. We made it to page 2. Oh wow we did. We're basically bad people. Yeah okay so posted by Syntax VGM on the forum. Google gives a response to the EU antitrust investigations that would have the EU attempting to find Google on the order of multiple billions of dollars. What was it? Maybe they should have found Bell that much. Have we talked about Bell yet? We haven't talked about we'll talk about Bell later. Maybe the problem with this is and I've seen a few people bring this up. Where was the EU when Google wasn't allowing Microsoft to build a YouTube app? That is some anti-competitive stuff right there. Whereas the three things so this is from the Google blog and I'll give you guys a couple of snippets from it later but the three things that they're accusing Google of doing that are anti-competitive are just kind of like one of them is that they're forcing handset makers to install their applications if they want to have the powered by Android branding or whatever and I'm kind of sitting here going well they can use AOSP. They can fork their own Android and you know what then they don't get the Play Store. You know what then they don't get to take advantage of the ecosystem. That's business. Yeah. I mean yeah I mean Google's whole thing is like here's this free OS if you include our services with it. It's like here's that's a really good example I think was in the comments on the blog here. You know it's like if a shop is like you know here's free ice cream if you shop in our store. It's like well we don't want to shop in your store so we just want the ice cream. That's not how that works or no to the washroom you have to buy something. Yeah it's like you don't have to use our washroom. You can go make your own bathroom which probably I don't recommend but anyway the point is couple good quotes from here so the European Commission has asked questions about our partner agreements. These are quotes from the Google blog. It's important to remember that these are voluntary partner agreements with that said they the word on the street is that they have been kind of hardline about how the partner agreements work and whether you can make a secret Google Club thing. Yeah the whole secret Google Club thing. So if the EU kind of blows that open a little bit and we find out Google has been doing uncompetitive things and this is a whole other ball of wax but right now Google is very much on the defensive. They're talking about how anti-fragmentation agreements ensure that apps work across all different sorts of Android devices whether it's a phone or a TV box or a streaming device or whatever else the case may be. Our app distribution agreements make sure people get a great out of the box experience with useful apps on the home screen right there so part of Google's requirements that you're going to have to have your Gmail and your Chrome browser and all that stuff right on the home screen. Something that doesn't personally bother me like it's are we going to tell Apple they can't have Safari on the iPhone. I don't care. Apple's gonna be like right there buddy we're gonna put Safari wherever we want to and that is different and I know please do not flood my inbox. I know Apple is not entering an agreement with a handset maker to blipity blipity. I get it but the point is that to control the end user experience and I don't mean control I mean protect the end user experience because quite frankly the kind of software that the handset makers and the carriers will load on your phone if Google doesn't push Chrome and Gmail down your throat is a lot worse historically. I forget where I was going with this anyway the point is yes it's different but I don't necessarily object to it as long as Google's applications are better but that's where the whole antitrust thing comes in and allegedly Google is using their position as a dominant player to not allow anyone to try anything better and not you know not give smaller application makers a chance to compete. So I'll be following this I'll be really interested to see if we end up with like a version of Android with no Internet Explorer and MSN messenger or maybe with Internet Explorer and MSN messenger. Remember that was the result of the Windows antitrust. Okay yeah I was like what did you even yeah that was a little bit of a gotcha. Alright so original poster for our next one is victorious secret and Tesla home battery details emerge and these things are friggin cool. It's like a UPS for your entire home and basically it's like a it's like a big is that a visual photo. I don't think so. I don't think that's a visual photo because the word on the street is they're going to be they're going to stick a little bit above ground they're going to be nice looking and they should be like separate from your home I think you can install solar cells on top of them. Ignore this ignore the photo just relax your photo bugs me relax your boobies. So here's some here's some supposed details from people that so stock analyst for global equities research has sent a note to his investors with some details he claims 230 California homes currently have a Tesla home battery installation that there are another hundred in homes in other states. So here's the word on the street the battery has to be installed at 1.5 feet above the ground you should have an open space of one feet on each side that's a third of a meter for the Europeans or half of a meter for the first part. The battery does not make any noise does not need any maintenance and has no drippings probably important for a battery that would be horrible. The battery includes an inverter so you can take your AC power and charge the battery it's about three feet tall and two and a half feet wide so it's about one meter by point five of a meter or four four fifths of a meter excuse me and looks good and the installer offered a choice apparently between a 10 kilowatt hour battery and a 15 kilowatt hour battery pricing for the 10 kilowatt hours said to be in the 13 thousand dollar US range not too shabby if you are really smart like this strapping young man. Yeah the one owner is apparently charging his battery at night when electricity is cheaper in the area and then selling it back to his utility company during peak hours for a profit estimated twelve to fifteen dollars a month pretty much covering the monthly amortized cost of the battery which you can buy on a 10 year payment plan. Yeah if you put down about fifteen hundred bucks it will then be about monthly fifteen dollars a month for 10 years. Something along those lines. Yeah but then if you do that sell it back thing it might be nothing. Yeah which is kind of awesome. That's kind of smart. Yeah very very cool and I mean just the idea of do we remember how long these are going to run your home? No. I can't remember anymore. I remember when we were initially talking about this and I can't do the 10 or 15 watt hour math right now in my head so very very cool. It's like a gigantic UPS for your house though. I think it's freaking awesome and I'm excited about the sell it back to the grid thing although I do have to wonder if a lot of people jump on this if the potential money from that will go down. I think it will go down but I don't think it will go down fast or dramatically enough to be a problem because the thing about the peak hours thing is that that's peak hours. There's nothing the utility company can do about it. If they need the extra electricity well they can either buy it back from their customers which creates goodwill with their customers or they can buy it from out of state which does nothing. Yeah. Does nothing beneficial. But if they're buying it back from their customers and there's a massive amount of customers that are willing to sell it. It's going to be minuscule amounts. I don't think it's going to turn into a problem. Maybe like in the Bay Area it becomes an issue. Right. But like where the early adopter of Centralville. Yeah. But even then. Man, the Tesla's down there. Exactly. Okay. Anyways. Alright let's move on to our original poster. Oh actually you know what we should move on to our sponsors. There you go Nick. Is Nick messaging us about that? I'm sure he is. I don't know. I'm sure he is because it's 616. Tell him to keep his friggin pants on. Lynda.com speaking of keeping your pants on. You can learn with no pants on at all on Lynda.com. Head over to Lynda.com slash WAN Show and learn all kinds of things. They have over 3000 courses available. They have software training like Excel and WordPress and Photoshop. They have web development training, photography training, visual design, business training. All the courses are taught by industry experts with new courses added every week and you don't have to wear pants. I cannot emphasize this enough. You sit in front of your computer. Neither of us. We might not be wearing pants. We might not. Actually I got up. I might not be wearing pants anymore. I might not be wearing pants at all. I might be able to take them off extremely stealthily. You could. I could be sitting across from you at the dinner table and you'd be like smiling. We'd be having pleasant dinner conversation and then I stand up and bam. No pants. Game of Thrones. So let's go ahead and sort of move on with our Lynda. So anyway, you can get a 10 day free trial for Lynda.com if you're not sure if the $25 a month entry level plan is right for you. So you, I mean that's basically it. Lynda.com slash WAN Show. Try it out. Learn a few things. We have a few people here at Linus Media Group who obtain skills on Lynda.com and use them in their daily work and that is a super cool thing. Yes. Learning online, man. Lynda.com is great. I could pretend this is a book. A book of SSDs. Are you going to be, you're going to be here again, aren't you? Yep. I'm learning about how it's 15 times plus rapid D. I'm moving on. FreshBooks. FreshBooks is a tool for, really I mean the way that I see it being used is for like people like your dad when he was running his own business. Because I'm going to tell kind of a funny story. Okay. First I'll give a brief rundown of what FreshBooks is. So it's a tool to get your, it's a cloud tool to get your accounting done quickly and easily. You know where I'm going with this, don't you? Okay. So the idea is that you can bill your hours very easily because you can log where you're going and what you're doing. You can create invoices and send them to your clients online. You can log when they've looked at them so you know, hey you looked at it, you know you owe me money, let's get this going. And you can take payments by credit card. It just makes all those stupid little things that you'd normally be chasing easier to keep track of. So it's freshbooks.com slash when and enter when in the how did you hear about a section when you sign up for your free trial. It's worth giving a shot to just so you can see if it helps you stay a little bit more organized especially if you're running around from job to job. Yeah, it's even cool for like something that's possibly more applicable to you guys. I don't know if, I don't think you said this but like when I was younger I did a lot of freelance IT stuff. I'd go work for little law offices or I'd go build people computers or maintain their like family computer. It wasn't a ton of work. In-home service is a great example. Yeah, and especially because I had a normal job at the same time I didn't want to manage all that crap so this actually would have been really helpful. You know what's really funny is so many people message me asking if they should build computers for people for like spare money and I'm like no, you should do servicing on people's computers for spare money. That is way more lucrative. Oh it is. It's way, way better money. Anyway, so. You can build a new computer for the people that you're servicing on your computer for. So you can keep them as a customer. My example where your dad is about to get hardcore wrecked. It took him nine months to get me an invoice for the copper for Hold Room Water Cooling. We are literally in the early stages of moving out of this office by the time he's billing me for the copper for that project. And I'm going to pay him right away and I actually, I kept chasing him. Yep, he did. He did. Luke's mom said to me, I don't know, oh you don't know this. When I walked out to get the invoice, she actually dropped it off here at the office, she handed me the invoice and said, I am so glad he doesn't run his own business anymore. Oh no. But maybe FreshBooks would have helped, but he's teaching now so he doesn't need to keep track of that stuff anymore. Oh right. Why she's glad is because he just didn't do the whole paperwork thing so much. He'll fix or build whatever the heck you want. He put the thing together great. Oh yeah. He'll do whatever you want, but he won't necessarily bill you right away. Alright so let's do our last spot here. I think all of our sponsor spots today have something a little bit different. So check this out. 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If you decide you like it, then go ahead and use offer code Linus to get 10% off your first purchase. Thank you Squarespace for supporting the WAN Show. Yeah! And they apparently have a new slogan. Build it beautiful. Squarespace. Build it beautiful. Squarespace. Squarespace. Squarespace. I'm not sure if you saw this post on Instagram. I did. Yeah. I thought that was hilarious. I creeped the crap out of myself. Lying there in bed with my Squarespace shirt on, it's such a comfy shirt. Normally I try not to completely go out of my way to wear the shirts of our sponsor brands all the time for no reason just because it looks chilly. But they're really comfy. Even American apparel shirts, they feel nicer than the other ones I own. They're just really nice. And so I'm laying there in bed. I use them for pajamas a lot. Squarespace. Build it comfortable. In my Squarespace pajamas and I'm like, I can't stop thinking about the dude. I cannot stop thinking about the dude. You probably would have worn a house coat. Yeah. I should get a house coat. Yeah. I'm not that into house coats. No. I'm just a tall guy. You're one of those ones that are just like a towel and then just use it as a towel. Oh my goodness. We have so many topics that we haven't even begun to touch that are excellent. Okay. Overlord, Engadget Posts, IKEA has introduced a range of wireless charging lamps and tables. I still think they've completely missed the boat with the design of these. I think they're hideous. And I did call for a wireless charging bedside lamp quite some time ago. But no. No. Sorry. Go ahead. Not necessarily like that. I mean, a number of you pointed these out to me and went, hey, I think Linus thought of this. No. Similar. Similar. I had like... Yeah. It was... You know, the stupid thing is I'm not an artistic person, so I have this vision in my head of what it should look like. But for me to actually get that into a 3D modeling program or even on a piece of paper is impossible for me. But basically, mine would... I think wireless charging would be an optional sort of thing. You could have a module that goes into it that allows you to add wireless charging, but it would actually just be a cable organizer and USB cables that allow you to keep all your phones in one place and stuff like that. Anyway, I think it's really cool. I think it's really forward thinking. I don't like the designs, but there's plenty of time for that to be improved. They support the Qi standard. The thing about Qi is it just keeps not going away. I mean, what is it? Power Mat or... What's the other one? I don't remember. Qi versus... I've never really gotten that super into wireless charging because I don't think it's that great. Yeah, Qi versus PMA, it's great for certain things. Having the wireless dock in the car, thumbs up. Because when I'm using navigation is when I hit my battery hardest. So... On that dock where it holds it? Yeah. No, that's cool. But the bedside wireless charging, I've never understood. No, I'll just plug in my phone. And less, but the thing is, is do you want to wear out your micro USB connector? Because that's a thing. But then wireless charging heats up your phone, where is that your battery? I don't have an Android phone right now. Right, so you straight up can't take advantage of wireless charging at all. But I wouldn't want to because the connector on here is way better than micro USB. Get wrecked, bro. It really is. It's so much better. You can sleep with it under your pillow and not worry about it. There's still things I really like about Android, but I don't miss micro USB at all. Not even remotely. This cable is just so much better. And USB-C is pretty cool. This one's better at being reversible. Yep. 100%. Yep. And like buy a lot. Yep. So, I don't know. That's kind of unfortunate. All right, MacGroomers.com says the Apple Watch is... Or actually, I don't know if this quote is from them or from Business Insider, but global Apple Watch pre-orders exceed 2.3 million units. So to put this in perspective, Pebble has sold about over 1 million smartwatches since they started ever. And Apple allegedly... We're not gonna get sales numbers until Apple decides to disclose them. But Apple allegedly pre-order sold 1 million on the first day. So is the Apple Watch a success commercially? Pretty much, yes, it already is. Is the Apple Watch a success as a product? I haven't tried one yet. I do want to try one. I'll get my hands on one at some point. I'm not gonna worry about being the first one with an Apple Watch or anything like that. So I'll pick one up whenever I kind of feel like it. And then once I try it, I'll let you guys know if it manages to change my mind. But I really am... I am really not convinced based on everything that I know about the spec, based on everything I know about the functionality, and based on everything that I've read between the lines in the initial reviews. Even from... Remember, guys, the people who are getting early Apple Watches are gonna be Apple zealots. Or they are going to be long-time Apple coverage providers abiding by all the rules that allow them to continue to get Apple products seeded to them. Apple is notorious for... You know what? The people that we deal with are pretty darn good. If we give a negative review to something from Corsair, they're like, okay. And they'll send us the next one and hope it does better. Apple is notorious for if you don't... If you don't walk the line properly, you can get your whole publication cut off. Not just yourself personally. So you have to read between the lines on an Apple review. And I read an awful lot of tepid positivity. So I don't know. I'll try it. I'll see how it goes. Akita in the Twitch chat says, in all capital letters, for someone who doesn't like Apple, you should report on them a lot. Well they're pretty important. They've sold more smartwatches than everyone else combined. They haven't even shipped any yet. They're just pre-selling. I still prefer my Android phone. I use this for one specific app that isn't on Android that I need for some backend stuff. But regardless to that, Apple is extremely important and things that they do shape the industry. You guys have to understand. This is our job. We can't just ignore Apple because Apple is a bad company. Steve Jobs is bad. We can't fanboy like that. It's not about that for us. We have to look at what they do or what they don't do and we have to compare it to what others do or don't do. And then we have to evaluate it based on our experiences with the product. And if we don't talk about it and we don't look into it and we don't try it and we don't use it, then everything we say is basically worthless at that point in my mind. I would not pay attention to an Android phone review from someone who only uses Apple devices. It's not useful. And that's why it took me, I think it took me about a year to really get to the point where I could do Android phone coverage that I think is contributing something as opposed to just regurgitating what everyone else is saying because I had been just an Apple user up until then and there's so many little tiny differences and they're changing all the time that you just basically have to use them both in order to keep track of it. That's why you guys will actually see. Where is it? Yep. Mine's in my office. I still carry my Moto X. I am almost always carrying... I actually tried to leave both my phones in my office. The only reason why this one is here is because I needed my sign-in code for Twitter. And so I got Nick to go grab it because I can't move very well. So moving on to not Apple, NZ New Zealand VPN providers set to be sued by TV networks. Two providers in New Zealand, and this is from kitguru.net. Two providers in New Zealand refused to put harsher blocks in place for their users to keep them from accessing overseas out of country content circumventing the licensing agreements that are in place for television and or movie programming. So a popular usage model for VPNs is accessing US Netflix, which is infinitely better than every other Netflix combined with the exception of I've heard the UK is okay. But I haven't really used it much. So TV, NZ and Sky TV networks claim that by offering VPN service, Call Plus and bypass network services are complicit in customers watching overseas content. I don't really see how it's anyone's business. If you're a VPN company, I really don't understand. I'm with Call Plus and BNS here. None of our business what our customers are accessing through the VPN, the entire reason they're using a VPN is for their privacy. And basically they're the only two it appears or at least they're the only two major ones that refused to stop offering that service to their customers. Apparently most of the other VPN services in New Zealand complied with the TV networks putting pressure on them to not allow that to be done by their users. Very interesting. I mean, this is something that is going to come to a head and this is something that I think the TV networks are going to win this one because they're going to keep putting pressure. Okay, the thing is that these are the same companies that control the licensing deals for the content. So at some point Netflix is going to be like, oh, we can't stop it. And they're going to be like, figure it out. And that's going to be that. I think that's exactly how it's going to go. And they can stop it. It's pretty easy to figure out when people are VPNing. It's not that hard. They will be fine. I wish they wouldn't, but they're not going to get away with it, which is unfortunate, but a thing. This is a pretty cool little product on the subject of we've talked a lot about server crap on this WAN show, but this is a really, really cool little piece of server crap. I'm going to go ahead and try and make this bit. Man, I hate scaling. It's like I have to go to zoom level 67% to make this page even work. So the Super Micro X10 SDV TLM4F. Man, they need better names for their motherboards. Super Micro, they never will. This is a really cool motherboard. Now to be perfectly honest, I have no idea who the hell it's for. Straight up, no idea. It's got a PCI Express 16x slot. It's got six SATA 3 ports supporting RAID. It has four DIMM slots supporting quad channel DDR4 up to 128 gigs. It has an onboard CPU. So it has a built-in CPU. It has dual 10 gigabit LAN. I don't think it's a storage server because unless you're running RAID with like a hardware RAID card, you're going to be CPU bottleneck in all likelihood. I don't think it's a web server because what do you need dual 10 gigabit mix for? I don't understand what this product is. It's really cool. You want a database off of it for web? But you wouldn't need that. Wow. Okay. This computer just... I'm done. Okay. It has an M.2 port. Lots of RAM can be really good for databases. Yeah, but if you're running a database, why does it need to be mini-ITX? I don't know. Why are you running a mini-ITX database server? What are blades? No, blades are going to be those super skinny motherboards. You could do a super shallow 1U. But why? It doesn't care. You're already using up a 1U. You can get shallow racks. Power consumption is very low, 90 watts under load, under full CPU load. How much is it? Because if you just get a bunch of extra cool features, it's going to be way too much, isn't it? $950. Yeah. But the problem is the price of the CPU. So it's a Xeon D1540 embedded Xeon. And Intel is pricing that chip right up there with the E5 series Xeons. It's not pricing it like an atom. Yeah. So very, very cool. And these guys actually, this is pretty cool. This is ServeTheHome.com. I got that one, I think. But you're going to have to get future links because this laptop is good. They did some pretty sweet thermal imaging. So they're showing where the NICs are heating up, showing the CPU is actually staying quite cool. I really want to get a thermal imaging camera. I don't even know what we'll do with it. I just want one. Look at graphics cards. Be like, ooh. Look at the thing. Toaster. It's hot. OK, moving on. I am amazed at how many, sorry, this is totally random thought. I'm amazed at how many people bought the Sleep Is for Pussy's t-shirt. Yeah. Because after we designed the shirt, it was one of those things where that was another one of those, like I woke up in the middle of the night, or rather I was still awake in the middle of the night. And I was like, you know, gamers don't sleep. We should have a shirt that's for gamers. And I was like, my cat is sleeping on me. He's sleeping. Sleep is for cat. That's funny. So I was like, yeah, we need like this artwork with like a cat sleeping on the gamer. And like, I've got guys like this completely uselessly expressing their concern about the design like after the campaign is live, when the design is literally already done. It was never shown the design. And going like, oh, that's not that it's not real safe for school and safe for work. I don't know if people are going to be able to wear that. And I was like, I think a lot of people bought it that aren't necessarily going to. I think a lot of people bought it as like a house shirt and some people wear it outside and that's fine. But like I could never wear it. Like I'm, my mom did the WAN show really close to that campaign and she was like, I can't wear that shirt on the show. And I was like, yep, wasn't even thinking about it. Don't worry about it. Like not going to happen. Like I can never wear that around my mom. It just wouldn't happen because yeah, sure. You're talking about a cat. There's a literally, okay, sure. There's a picture of a cat. Whatever you want. I mean, it's just like this shirt. The cat's playing with a ball. Yeah. Holy balls. Yeah. That's the kind of balls I'm talking about. Of course it is. There's no innuendo in here. Nope. Not at all. Apple is apparently worried. This was posted by Victoria's Secret that Samsung is simply not going to make enough chips for the iPhone 6. So Apple needs A9 chips, which if I recall correctly are what? 14 nanometer manufacturing process. Like this is some state of the art freaking stuff here. The original article here is from Business Insider. And apparently Samsung has increased their projections for the Galaxy S6 based on excellent sales by roughly 40% to 50 to 55 million units for the full year. So Samsung also needs their state of the art manufacturing facilities to make their own chips. And as much as you can have contracts and agreements in place and blipity blupity blah blah blah. Really there's nothing that Apple can do if Samsung decides to do a run of A9s and then do three runs of their own processors and then do one run of A9s. Three for us, one for you. Sorry that batch of A9s didn't work out very well. So whatever. Put all their defective units into the A9 batch and take all the good ones from the A9 batch and be like hmm it's interesting too bad yours suck sorry. So sorry sorry I said iPhone 6. This is actually A9s for the rumored upcoming iPhone. Sorry sorry sorry. So basically yeah A9s they're worried they won't be able to build enough. They're moving some of their orders to TSMC and apparently this is because Global Foundries, the spin off from AMD from a number of years back is having trouble with 14 nanometer. Well is the only one that seems to have not had really and even they had some trouble with 14 nanometer. I think they had more time working on it didn't they? Well yeah they did but that's because they're always ahead of the curve. I know but that's what I'm saying. Like they might have had just as many troubles just it wasn't really go time so it was funny. I'm slowly cashing up here. Alright well no I think that's pretty much it. How did you get that booted? It just like was like no oh you right we have two of them. Lol I think one of our SSGs just outright failed. Yep. In the JZ. Yep. Which is like there's no excuse for that because there's lots of cooling. Here's the one that wasn't working and here's the other one. I hot swapped laptops mid show. Awesome. But then it was useless. Well yeah mid show is sort of a optimistic at the end of the show. Alright well thank you very much guys for tuning in. We will see you next week same bat time same bat channel. Is that from like super old school Batman? Yeah. Yeah okay. You asked me where it was from the other day and I was like I'm pretty sure it's super old school Batman. Worked this time. Yeah it did sometimes. You're not even trying to sing along with it. I was making the noises of them moving. Carrying the couch. Christmas. Fresh bag. Bind fees.