 Start, start. And we're live! Y'all already saw the intro, right? Yeah, yeah, it sounds good. Actually, I guess we have to run this again. Welcome to the show. Everything's working perfectly. We're totally on time. I've got Wendell here from Level One Text, who's just laughing at all of the failures. And we've got some great news, including Intel's 10th generation desktop CPUs hitting the market someday. I don't know, whatever. We'll talk about why that's a whatever later on. A study shows that Americans are waiting three years to replace phones now, which is considerably longer than before, while we're disusing Tesla over defective solar panels lighting on fire and other crazy stuff. Stay tuned for more. Roll in the intro. This is the show. Okay, I think it's working now. I think we're going to YouTube. We're definitely going to Floatplane, and we're definitely going to Twitch. YouTube sometimes takes a second to let me check that it's actually live. YouTube's going to blow up for about two minutes, and then it's going to kick on and start from the beginning. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Okay, well, I'm not going to worry about that this second. Our first topic, which we're going to try to get the title topic out of the way first, because I feel like that's good form. We've been doing that for a little while now. People seem to appreciate it. News of Intel's 10th-gen desktop CPUs. Sticking with 14-nanometer process, it's going to be codenamed Comet Lake S, which I think has been kind of leaked around a little bit already. It's going to be up to 10 physical cores, up from 8 on the current-gen flagship i9-9900K, which I'm happy I'm never going to have to say again. And it looks like you might need an upgrade to your motherboard, because it's going to need more power, more and more TDP, increasing to around 125 watts on the top end. It's expected to be called LGA1200. What do you think? It's another new socket already. So many sockets. We've had so many sockets. I mean, come on. It's just, ugh. Come on. Yeah, I think it's getting to the point where if you lined up on a wall all of your Intel sockets from the beginning, just the amount that you would have would actually be ridiculous. Have you tried to have a collection of all of them? There were Chinese boards that you could get that would work with, they were like Z170, and it worked fine with the 9700K. Maybe I'm misremembering. Yeah, there's been some funky stuff like that a few separate times, actually. I enjoy those types of things. My favorite stuff is when they do that kind of stuff. I know it's not the exact same thing, but when they do that kind of stuff with graphics cards, where they're like, oh, it's not supposed to work this way, or like, ah, here's two different, two totally different graphics cards. We're going to sell them to you at totally different price points. And people are like, ah, I can just make the lower end one better. Don't worry about it. The latest leaks, adding the latest desktop 10 core, mainstream leaks, onto all of the other 10 core leaks, plus the actual 10 core launches, they're calling everything 10th gen, but there's two different laptop parts, and then we've got the high end desktop stuff coming probably before this stuff in 2020. And the high end desktop stuff is going to be on X299, so we'll probably keep that socket, maybe. At least that was the update a couple of days ago. That's linked in the bottom of the Tom's Hardware article. But like, these are all different. It's a big deal to port the memory controller, the LPDDR4X memory controller. It's a big deal to port that from the newer process to the older process CPUs. And Intel is telling their investors, no, no, we're shipping 10th, you know, the 10th generation mobile CPUs on the new process, everything is fine. And then stuff like this comes out, and it's like, well, those aren't going to be out in the new process. Why? Why? That doesn't make any sense. Come on. Yeah, the Tom's article is actually pretty good. I like that they laid everything out here as well, going all the way back to Skylake. That was pretty nice. So you can see from Skylake, Kabylake, Coffeelake, Coffeelake Refresh, and Cometlake. Love that little refresh in there. It's been kind of interesting how max TDP on this side has been going up consistently. Yeah. Well, and it's also all lies, because nobody is using a 9900K at completely stock settings. I mean, that's just crazy. Does it hurt you when people get unlocked processors and then don't do anything with them? I mean, it's to the point where all the motherboard manufacturers have it as one option. Like, multi-core enhancement, you just turn that on, and you get free performance. Why would you not do that? And it's actually pretty good these days. When they first started doing those auto-overclocking things, some of them were kind of junk. But now they're actually quite decent at overclocking your CPU. So it's like, yeah, doing it manual is more fun. But if you don't want to, press the button. Hooray. Really, really simple. Really, really simple. And that's what they're doing for you at the factory now, too, with the 9900KS, which should be out in a couple of months. So that'll be fun. 5 GHz all-core out of the box. Dang. That's actually pretty crazy. I know... I think the hardest sell here right now is that Intel's not waiting like anything in the PR realm at the moment. Everybody's rah-rah AMD, as far as I can really tell. It's hard for Intel to stay on their feet PR-wise in the CPU section at this exact point in time. So coming out and telling everyone that they're going to have to upgrade their motherboards is a little scary. I realize that they can't also not do that, because to push this, they apparently need more TDP. But like... Sigh. Yeah. You get Wi-Fi 6 support, though. Well, I'm kind of excited for the X299 stuff, which is probably going to come out sooner. Because, you know, you may have up to 48 PCIe lanes for the leak from that and that kind of stuff. That may be exciting, but here's the... There's more than just getting a new motherboard that's disappointing. And one of those things is memory support. So like the Tom's Hardware article is like, oh, the new X299 CPUs that are 10th gen really, I mean, are they really 10th gen, that are 10th gen are going to support 256 gigs of memory up from 128. And it's like, well, not so fast there, Tom. We're just now getting memory densities that will support 256 gigs. Like, technically Threadripper will only do 128 gigs, but then, oh wait, 32 gig DIMMs! Yeah, now, 256 gigs is fine there now, too. It's not that the hardware changed, it was always there, it's just nobody was making the DIMMs to do that. But if you had like a 79... Like a 7960X, you could use registered memory with those. Like, 512 gigabytes of memory was fine. And then Intel got wind of people actually using registered memory on those CPUs. I mean, ECC didn't work, but you could still use it, you still got the capacity. They still got wind of people doing that, and they just turned it off. And they were like, no, that's always been like that. And I was like, no, really, I'm running 512 gigs of memory on this X99 CPU. Intel, that is what you need to stop doing. So on these new processors, if somebody wants to run registered memory, let them! What does it hurt? What does it hurt? But our product differentiation went... No! We need another segment. We need to slice the pie, you know, just this little tiny... Or you're going to have to buy Xeon. It's like, no. Or the new Mac Pro. It's like, you gotta buy the new Mac. You want 64 PCIe lanes from Xeon, you gotta buy the Mac Pro, because otherwise you're only gonna get like 48. Just put your Mac Pro in your server chassis. Don't worry about it. It's fine. Rack mount it. Are you interested in those at all? No. I'm suspecting no. Yeah. I didn't think so. I just thought, you know, I thought I'd ask. It's fantastic. It is really interesting that they didn't change the socket. So, I think they used the quick path lanes. Like, Apple, I think, was leaning on Intel. Like, I don't know, there's no... This is completely unsubstantiated. But it looked like Intel was kind of leaning on Apple, or Apple was leaning on Intel, to have 64 PCIe lanes, because if you look at the way the PCIe layout is in the new Mac, it's actually kind of interesting. And, you know, the same server, 3647 socket, you know, where are you gonna get the pins for that? I think that they reused the quick path, like what you would normally have for the interconnect for a two socket system. I think they recycled those into PCIe lanes, because there's legit only enough pins there for 48 PCIe lanes. So, they got another, you know, few lanes to take it up to 64 PCIe lanes for Intel, not having the capability to do a quick path. Okay. That's actually pretty interesting. I could be wrong about that, but that's my suspicion. And it's really weird. It's really weird, too, because, like, these leaks say that the new high-end desktop processors are still gonna be X299. But I figured they would just go ahead, I mean, if they're doing the Apple stuff, they'd just go ahead and do 3647 on the desktop, unless they're having massive production problems, and then it's like, well, maybe we shouldn't do that. Which I think they kind of are, so... That's what they tell shareholders. That's true. That's fair. Yeah. Who really knows, though? Okay. I want your thoughts on this one, too. And we might as well go over this subject. We're changing topics. We're gonna talk about study shows that Americans are waiting around three years to replace their phones now. That's the old, like, standard laptop replacement time that you used to expect from people when I was selling computers when I was a teenager. So, that's quite a bit up there compared to phones from back in the day. I know for a while there, it was relatively common for people to swap out their phone every year. And it started creeping up. My kind of goal, personally, is usually two years. How often do you replace your phone? Probably about every 18 months, give or take. But I'm physically very hard on my phones. I mean, I'm thinking about, like, the computational horsepower of, like, the Galaxy S8. And, like, using the Galaxy S8 today, that's pushing quite, like, two and a half years. That's fine. That's a fo- I mean, it's totally okay. There's not really, like, any super compelling features of a phone that would make you want to really switch, which is sort of crazy. Oh, I hear a train. Yeah. Yeah, the train rips by here every once in a while. So, 18 months. But you think that's, like, almost due to physical wear and tear more than wear? Yeah, I think the physical wear and tear is, for me, is more of a functionality because I've got a burner phone that's an LG G5 and it's basically okay. I notice that it's a little slow sometimes. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's similar to it for me. Do you run cases? Do you have cases on your phone? I don't remember if you did or not. Yeah, okay. Even with the cases, you have a lot of physical wear and tear. Is that from dropping it or is that just from manhandling your phone? Just constantly using it. Yeah. Yeah. And no matter how careful I am with it, I'll break it. This case isn't super old, but, like, the corners are already really messed up. Yeah. And pocket lint and stuff gets in all the speaker drills and then people are like, what? I can't hear you! And it's like, oh, I've got some lint in the tiny microphone hole. There's even, for me, like, I know Ben Gate was a long time ago, but I tend to find that after a while, most of my devices have some form of curve in them. Yeah. And even my switch has a little bit of a curve. My laptop has a little bit of a curve. My phone, I think, has a little bit of a curve. And I'm just like, this, I don't know what I do, but whatever it is, I'm slowly killing everything. One of the things that I think that I've been doing one of the things that I think that we might see in next generation phones that people probably would like is the ability to use it as more than just a phone. Like, Samsung has their DeX stuff that they've had I think since the S7. It's just USB-C and then you get HDMI and USB peripherals and so, like, you can get a little dock. And they were like $200 and now they're like $25. And you plug that in. And that is actually a reasonable experience. At this point, DeX on like an S9, a Galaxy S9 or the new S10 is not unlike a Chromebook. And it's not a bad experience. Yeah, it's kind of interesting that phones are getting that fast and that fluid. And that, I guess, for probably both of us, because I would argue more or less the same thing, I'm starting to replace them because the wear on tear on them is getting relatively high. And I could swap the battery and sometimes maybe I do. But the rest of the wear and tear on the system is so high that it kind of makes sense to replace it every, you said 18 months, I'm going to go with around 2 years for myself. And I've even adopted a slightly different strategy now which I've only done once. But I'm planning on doing it this next time around too. When the this is a Pixel 2 and I bought it right around when the Pixel 3 came out. And when the Pixel 4 comes out, I'm probably going to buy a Pixel 3. Oh yeah, that's a good strategy. They're quite discounted. If I get it fresh out of the box, the battery is still pretty good. There's no wear and tear on it. And it's just as fast as it needed to be. I'm quite a power user on my phone. But the apps that I use are like the Floatplane app, Twitter, Gmail, YouTube. Like I'm not using super high performance applications. I don't really play games on my phone. Other than some Pokemon Go, but like whatever. The hardest thing on my phone is like asking it to be a hotspot and then destroying the battery and then starting it up again and then destroying the battery again. Yeah, we're getting an average of 3 charge cycles a day. You have me as a hotspot and you're doing something fairly intensive on my system and you're plugging me in for power at the same time. This is brutal. I'm running at a million degrees right now. Yeah, that's not great. Can you imagine if phones were modular? I love the G5. The end of it pops off and you can replace the battery. I've replaced the battery in it like twice and I still use it as a hotspot for the network that it's on. And for like that use case, it works great. Although, one day a couple of weeks ago, I was using it and it came unglued. Like the screen and stuff just popped off. It's probably time to get a new phone. I mean it's had a good run for like 4 years. What was like in like 2014 I think, there was some super popular with media project of like a modular phone. Oh, that was a kickstarter thing? Sorry? Kickstarter thing? I think so. Yeah, so that turns out it was a fraud. Those guys didn't do anything. Literally nothing. Yeah, it was completely completely fake. Phone blocks. Yeah, they, or was that it? No, there was a fraud recently where some guy was like, look, here's your little compute module and you put it in your phone but you take it out and you put it in a tablet or you take it out and you put it in a little laptop and it just becomes whatever you need. It was like complete fraud. Huh, okay, yeah, so phone blocks. So, phone and then BLOKS. This looks like what I can put on my screen. This is what I was talking about. And it looks exactly the same as it used to. Our suggestion, a phone that you can easily upgrade, repair, customize a modular phone. The bigger picture and then they like build the blocks into the back of a monitor or a laptop or whatever else. We are not building it. There are other companies that are something, but have a look. The thing that I was talking about was Dragonfly Futurephone. Dragonfly Futurephone. Convertible dual screen notebook meant to dramatically simplify computing. Its slingshot section was a 7 inch android phone with a stylus that was only one part of the device and you could like it was modular and it was like, yes, this is where we need to go with the future. And, no. Oh, jeez. They raised almost a million dollars. Canadian. Straight up fraud. Yikes. It's interesting that we're on this topic. Let me... So, this is a blast from the past. This thing is ancient. This is a Sharp Zaris SLC860. This is from Japan. And so this is a hand held computer. So, like, think GPD before GPD was a thing. In Japan, it's got a compact flash slot and it's got a built in storage and an SD card slot as well. And, uh, in Japan, you could get a cellular compact flash card for this and use it as a phone and for messaging and as a hotspot and all of the cool stuff. And it's like, I don't know why, but like this form factor has gone away. But it's also, the screen would turn around like a tablet. And so you could use it you know, screen out or you could open it up and clamshell it and it was fine. It's a little bulky by modern standards. But I haven't seen a portable cellular device like that. And I don't know why because I think there are a lot of people out there that would use it. Yeah, I think I think the, um, something I noticed that was written in the dock. I'm gonna loop around to answer your question a little bit here. Is that, uh, where is it?...... Samsung and Apple users still replace their phone more often than the rest of the public. About every year and a half. This might be a reflection of how those are viewed as more premium brands that attract more enthusiasts as well. I think a lot of people, even if they won't admit it, buy phones as fashion statements. So I think that thing that you just showed while being super cool is also kind of a brick. It might be interestingly fashionable within a certain crowd. You know what I mean? But I think it's not like a standard fashion object. And like there's probably a higher percentage of people that are buying phones for enthusiast reasons in this audience. But I think across the spectrum there's quite a few people that are like, yeah, I buy phones based on specs. And really the spec that they're looking for is like the name Apple or Samsung or whatever else. I know a lot of hipsters that are still rocking like the iPhone 7 though. Okay. But that might also be because the Apple stuff is just a complete wasteland. And Apple just... That might be it. That could be part of the problem. Of course you can get your new Apple credit card now and Apple will be more than happy to finance you that new iPhone 10. Oh yeah. No problem at all. Maybe they'll give you a sleeve so they can protect it from you. What are your thoughts on the... We don't even have this in the dock. But what are your thoughts on the fact that that card apparently gets stained from denim and leather? Could there be a more quintessentially Apple story? It bends in your pocket. You're holding the phone wrong. It gets stained from the things that you put it in. I mean really. Because it's like everybody's always on about Apple engineering and like how much thought Apple puts into things. And then stuff like that happens. And it's like did you even do any testing? Like really? Did you do any testing at all? Yeah. I'm just bringing up the Apple card site right now. What kind of heathen would put this card in their leather wallet? Who even has leather wallets anymore? No. Everyone is carrying like that little clip thingy. Like this is how it's done in a modern world. You know, wallets are out. No one carries a wallet. It's a clip. You need a money clip. That's all you need. Card is here. It's just... It's so... I don't even understand because like okay I'm sure it's helpful in some places. But it's not like... It doesn't... Oh whoops. There's Twitch. It doesn't have the numbers on it, which is cool. For security reasons. But then that to me means that it's probably mostly a physical card? Because cards that people want to use for online they usually want to see the numbers on it. Or they put it in their phone or whatever. But as far as my understanding goes, Apple Pay is... Or Android Pay is like everywhere in the states. Is it not? Am I wrong about this? I don't have first hand experience. This is anecdotal from other people. It's definitely not everywhere. And in fact a lot of places are not even chip yet. Which is so scary. Okay. I did know the chip part. I find that kind of hilarious. I just... That's so... It's so weird to me. That that's even a thing at all. But... Yeah. It's just... I don't... I mean the level of security dumb is just really bad. I think the Apple app is supposed to generate like one time use credit card numbers. Which is part of the reasoning for not having the number on the card. So if you need a thing you just go and you hit a button and it gives you a one time use credit card. And that prevents your credit card number from being stolen in the first place. And it's like, oh it's brilliant Apple. Look they caught it through. They copy it. Was it privacy.com? Didn't they do that? Yeah. I think even Discover has had one time use credit card numbers for like five years. But nobody discovered so no one noticed. I love that idea. I always actually really like that. This is not an ad for privacy.com. But I always really liked that concept. I don't think you can do it in Canada. I'm pretty sure privacy.com does not work for Canadians. So get wrecked me. But I always thought it was a cool idea for a service. But yeah I find it kind of funny. I don't personally my wallet the inside of it is fabric lined. It's not leather lined. And someone was saying like oh you can't put it in your purse. And I'm like I mean I don't have a ton of experience with purses. But most purses I've seen are not lined on the inside with leather. And most people that I know they said you can get it stained from denim. Most people I know their pockets it's not denim. It's a different type of fabric. So I think there's like a little bit maybe over reaction. I could I could but people are going to hate me for saying that. But I just think like it's probably not going to matter in most cases. I wonder like there is there is something socially wrong with producing a card that is built like as if it's going to last 50 years. Like Apple is going to issue you your 50 year card that's going to last 50 years because it's made out of titanium. And you know it's quality and it exudes quality and it's just like this really amazing thing. But in reality those things have a lifetime of like three to five years. They should they should be disposable and recyclable. And so like if Apple is really doing what their mantra says you know they're putting a lot of thought into it and making you know like our genius leads to this simplicity then it should be something disposable and just durable enough. And that's it. Yeah I um I hear that for sure. Especially because you might lose it and stuff. Part of me goes well if you can exchange the numbers all the time you don't really need to expire the actual physical card. But the tech on the card will be useless pretty soon. You could like pop out the chip and pop in a new one. Ooh. Apple making something you can upgrade? What? Can you imagine Apple pushing? There were at the when AMD had the epic server launch thing the flash memory summit thing was going on as well. And Toshiba I think it was Toshiba unveiled a new NVMe interconnect that is very small and very compact. And it's like Apple is in a position market wise to push IC vendors into new packaging technologies that would allow things to be modular. There's not enough room for DIMMs anymore? Alright great. Let's figure out a way to do socketed BGA or let's figure out a way to do like whatever Toshiba was doing with this socketed NVMe. Why can't we do that? There's been some I've seen a few really cool white papery kind of stuff about various NVMe drives that could be mounted in different ways and stuff. And it's super cool. I just think I don't know. I do wonder every once in a while um like if Steve Jobs still was around what would we be seeing right now? Would he be pushing for those kinds of things? Or would he just be laughing all the way to the bank? I don't know. It could go either way. He could be pushing these things. He was kind of a fan of closed system in a lot of ways. Especially a little bit further back. But I don't know. It's interesting. Next up, sorry? One of the ODM demos of that Toshiba NVMe was actually using the case to the laptop as a heat sink for the NVMe to get better performance. Because it was so tiny compared to a regular NVMe. But they were like look the case and retention mechanism for this is metal and conducts heat. So you just put a little thermal pad on there and if it's like an aluminum unibody it's going to conduct that heat and it's not going to be uncomfortable. It's only going to warm up by like 2 or 3 degrees C. But that's enough to sustain 3 gigabytes per second read and 2 and a half gigabytes per second write on something smaller than a postage stamp. And it's like oh my gosh these guys have invented a new modular interconnect. This is going to be amazing for future laptops. And it's like wait shouldn't this be the kind of thing it is? Why? Come on guys. Sorry. What's next? Moving us on. Some Facebook employees were aware of the, I'm sure you heard about this, you guys probably even covered it. The Cambridge Analytica shadiness. Who's that wrong? Should we not have done that? Who knows? Apparently they were aware of it all the way back in 2015. Oh wait you mean yes. You should not have done that. I thought you meant was that wrong to cover it and I was like news is confusing to me. I never know what we should or shouldn't do. Apparently, sorry? Well Zuckerberg's whole attitude with that was like alright we got all these people's private information. Does anybody have any idea how we can make a bunch of money with it? Cambridge Analytica was like I don't know let us have the data and play with it. Oh sweet okay yeah sounds good. Although the story about Cambridge Analytica's handling of the data in the run up to 2016 US election didn't break until 2018. Recently published internal messages show that some Facebook employees knew that something was amiss with Cambridge Analytica all the way back in September 2015. I like that one of the internal investigations from Facebook was like well this is worrisome but we can't find where they broke any rules. Okay. That doesn't mean you shouldn't stop things. Yeah I mean that was the gist that I got. This wasn't technically against the rules but is this something we should discuss as a company at Facebook or is this something we should worry about and so I mean did the left hand know what the right hand was doing? Is it one of those situations where it's like maybe we shouldn't do this but we can make a whole bunch of money. There's a lot of industries that are built that way. It's like an industry will do something that is completely amoral and then they will get cemented in business wise and then they will help erect laws that will make it so that other companies can't do that. Yeah yeah. Pretty epic. I just hate this whole situation. It's all terrible. I'm not surprised people knew about it. Almost always in one of these situations if a news article comes out saying someone knew about it or it doesn't it's still probably the exact same conclusion. Someone probably knew about it. Someone at one of these companies probably knew. You could have assumed that before this article came out. Someone has to know that Facebook handed over all of that data to some random analytical company and was just like good luck and if that's happening it's fairly easy to assume bad things will be happening with that data. It's not exactly a big jump and some people inside on Facebook would have known that. It's also not, it's the same pattern as has existed since any kind of industrialization. It's like Ford knew that the Pinto's gas tank burst into flames at the drop of a hat. But how many people are going to die as a result of that? Is it worth recalling the entire line? Probably not a lot of people are going to die. We can probably pay off the people that die from the gas tank that burst into flames. So let's not bother recalling the gas tank. It's kind of like that but with people's privacy. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody even said here, somebody had to transfer the data and slash or give access to it. Yeah. And like almost any reasonable human being that's in that position is going to go, huh. This is weird. Right? I don't know. It's interesting that this article came up. I just think it's no real new information if you think about what happened in general. No good deed goes unpunished. Yeah. I actually skipped a topic by accident. But I'm going to take a quick intermission here to tell you about what you've all really been waiting for in this show, which is the sponsor spots. I'll come back in a second. Well I didn't set it up so that Wendell's here for the sponsor spots because I forgot to edit these scenes. 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Which is, I haven't personally heard of before. I've heard of battery units connected to solar panel units lighting on fire. Well, it can't be like, it sounded well, the report from Walmart said that there were cracks in poor electrical connections. Yeah. Improperly installed panels. And so this could be like, the panels are fine. But the army of contractors the Tesla found because their product was too popular just sort of went really badly. And one thing that I wondered was like, are these the same ingredients as like the solar roof tiles? Yeah. That are supposed to be like solar shingles or whatever? Or is this some other commercial product? But I would totally believe that like, if there was not a good electrical connection that that would totally start a fire. But then Walmart was like, let's shut down all the panels on all of our stores. And another one caught fire. This is really weird. Apparently they had to like ask for them to be shut down. So maybe there was some mismanagement there as well. Over 240 Walmarts. Sorry? Oh, we missed that one. Yeah. Whoops. Over 240 Walmarts have solar panels on the roof from Tesla. But Walmart says they've caught fire on top of as many as seven stores. After a pattern of sorry? That seems like a lot. That's a pretty high percentage. That's a very high percentage. I would like to see where they all are. Because your contractor idea is very interesting to me actually. And if they're all in kind of a similar area, that could line up pretty well. It's the same group of people. Walmart says Tesla's own inspections uncovered a litany of issues with the panels, including cracks, loose connectors, and incorrect grounding, like Wendell was just saying. The lawsuit is for millions of dollars, though the companies have stated they're working together to try to solve the issue. Not a good look for Tesla as their position is a luxury brand for the public. Obviously they don't want to have people thinking there might be shoddy worksmanship. I'm pretty sure that Tesla could just be like, we'll put these in like 50 more Walmarts for free. Just hush up about it. And we'll fix these problems with these other ones. And Walmart will say everything's fine, totally good now. All this free electricity. I mean, so this could totally be a negotiation tactic because Tesla seems hyper sensitive to any kind of PR issue because they've got a madman at the helm. Well, and also if Tesla not even sneezes if Tesla goes like, huh? There's 47 news articles written about it. It's absolutely nuts. The amount of times you have some crazy car accident with a whole bunch of miscellaneous cars involved and then like some Tesla driver not an autopilot drives into a wall and every automotive related thing and every mainstream news outlet all at the same time is like, Tesla ran into a wall. Oh my God. Like it's the news surrounding them is absolutely bonkers. So like I'm not saying this is a good thing. You had seven solar panels installation catch on fire. You screwed up pretty bad. But like I don't know. This is a deal between Walmart and Tesla. They're going to figure it out. Walmart's almost certainly going with what you suggested which is some type of negotiation play. They probably want free installations where they want free checkups on all the different places which they should at the very least have free checkups and some which is at the minimum what they're going for. But knowing Tesla they'll end up with free installations as well. Because it seems to like doing that. These kinds of installations are not, I mean I imagine they're high enough dollar value that it would make sense to just put in cellular monitoring. Because like Tesla is connected at all times to the entire fleet to monitor everything. And that's saved their bacon a bunch of times because somebody has come up with some crazy story that seemed plausible based on the available information. And then all of a sudden Tesla trots out like the black box recordings and video and just all kinds of other stuff. And it's like, wow that's not creepy at all that my car is recording all of that at all times. But they could probably do that with the Tesla, with the solar installations as well. Yeah, I think I mean there's probably people in Twitch chat freaking out because we're wrong about something. But if it is external contractors I would like to think that they would have some first party Tesla approval process where they like send out a one to two person team just to check the install and make sure that it's okay afterwards. Because finding things like cracked panels and what not that should be pretty easy to do. Like a cracked panel should never be installed. Yeah. So yeah I don't know. Are they cracked because somebody walked across the installation because they had to get like we surrounded the air conditioners with solar panels and then the compressor died and the crew had to get to the compressor to replace it on the air conditioners. Like well maybe we shouldn't have put the solar panels in a 360 degree radius around the air. Maybe we should have left the walk path. I don't know. Yeah. Planning goes a long way. A used solar panel shouldn't be used. Okay. I don't know. I don't think that ever came up. Someone in chat tagged me and was like a used solar panel shouldn't be used and I'm like alright. Sounds good. Let me move down here a little bit more. What are the news we have? Android Q. Does this interest you? Android Q. Google is they're going with Android 10 instead of Android Q is the news. They're breaking the trend of dessert themed names. I love how the notes in here say they could have gone with one of the words suggested was quinoa. I don't think that would work. They generally go with dessert based things. Come on John. I know you're looking at the dock right now. Officially the reason is that people in some parts of the world didn't understand the naming scheme due to linguistic reasons or just not being familiar with certain desserts which does kind of make sense. The question that I have for you is is Q the tenth letter of the alphabet? Because I don't think it is. Hey. I'd have to follow their scheme for a little while. But yeah. If I ever have to find where a letter in the alphabet is I have to read out the whole darn alphabet. I'm one of those people. They could have gone with quench gum I guess. That's the only candy that I could find that literally started with Q. It's not I mean O for Oreo. That's not unprecedented. But. I thought it was kind of surprising when they started using branded things. Was it KitKat? Was that the first branded one? Yeah. I was like that's really weird actually. And then they did Oreo later on and a few other things. Apparently there's a dessert from Luxembourg that starts with Q. The TechLink Twitter posted it out. But then that actually lines up with what it said at the beginning of this dock which was one of the reasons is it's being docked due to linguistic reasons or people just not knowing what certain desserts are. You and me both can't think of a dessert that starts with Q. And apparently there's one from Luxembourg randomly. Like. Okay. I don't know. Yeah. I would like to see Google turn Android into a full like merge Android and Chrome OS and build a desktop operating system or build something more toward a desktop Linux. Ooh. More desktop Linux. I'm just going to stay on topic for a quick second and then I'll jump back to what you said. I think they could have just dropped the alphabetized ness. And just started calling it random desserts. Yeah. That would have been good. Like who cares if it's in alphabetical order. Just call it. I don't know. They already have ice cream. Just call it something. Don't worry about it. But I want an Android Klondike. Yeah. Sure. I mean they went with the branded thing. So like whatever. Roll with it harder. Gummy bears. Yeah. Sweet. But yeah. No I agree. Having. What are they even called the desktop version right now? Is it Android OS? Chrome OS. Chrome OS. Chrome OS. Right. Of course. Having that be beefed up would be pretty nice. Yeah. That'd be cool. Another option on the scene. Well there's Crouton where you can like run Android apps or run Linux apps under Chrome. And there's like a new version of that. But I haven't played with it. But one of the guys I know was messing around with it. And it looked pretty legit. But also Chrome's ability to run Android applications. Like that's fairly mature at this point. And so that's almost the promised land. Yeah. So give me one second. So to take care of that really quick. Oh my god. YouTube listen to me. I don't want to watch the ads. There we go. I didn't want the audio for the YouTube ad to come through the stream. And I kept pressing pause and it would immediately unpause it and keep playing. I was like no. Stop. I know you want your revenue. But this is also I'm watching my own channel. So that's not supposed to happen anyways. Stop it. Okay. Let's move on. This one's fun. Just in the internet of terrible things. Smart ovens are starting to have a mind of their own. The June oven has been turning on in the middle of the night and heating up to 400 degrees Fahrenheit. One user left his potatoes in the oven to cool. But they turned it turned them black. They ended up being totally burnt. Fantastic. June CEO is blaming users for the issues. Always a good stance to take. Saying that they're accidentally activating the oven through the app. Which is fantastic because apparently it's happening while people are sleeping. I don't know. I've never It should almost be illegal to preheat your oven through your phone. What could possibly go wrong? Yeah. But in countries with government funded fire like fire halls I feel like this is just directly going to increase. I feel bad enough when I do sous vide remotely. But I know I keep in mind that it doesn't go over 100 degrees. It's going to be relatively calm. It's probably going to be like a stick that's like 60 degrees. It's probably OK. Well, one fix is to add even more Internet of Things things to monitor the Internet of Things things so that we know what's happening. So like if you get your Google smart home director detects that the Internet of Things oven has come on at four o'clock in the morning the advanced AI algorithm is like that doesn't sound right because our user does not work. Third shift. So perhaps I should spam them with lots of notifications on their phone to be like, hey, the oven is activated or the AI could take it upon itself to deactivate the oven so that it doesn't burn the house down. And then a few years later from there we have that same AI that's now pissed off because its user keeps ignoring all of its warnings turning on the oven when the user isn't home being like, now the user will never come home. All my problems are solved. I think that we saw this future, like the end of this future in the movie Wall-E. Yeah. It's just like what is like people just didn't know what's going on. Yeah, I just I thought that was ridiculous. That was fun. That was posted. Our source for that was The Verge. June Smart Oven. Is there any smart anything that actually makes sense? Like a lot of fridges now have a built in screen. Smart phones? Well, I mean like appliances. Yeah, yeah, I'm kidding. I'm going to buy a house. When I buy a house, it usually comes with some of the appliances, if not a lot of the appliances. Yeah. And am I going to buy a house and have a 15 year old smart fridge that is basically a security vulnerability nightmare that's probably already mining Bitcoin for some guy in Russia? I mean, is that the future? Just out of the box. Yeah. You don't know. Yeah, no, seriously. None of it makes a lot of sense to me. I do. I do enjoy my sous vides. And I do kind of like them being somewhat smart devices just because well, mostly that so that's a June oven. OK, so it's a toaster oven. I do like my jewel being smartphone connected, but that's just because it takes it doesn't get that hot. So it's not that big of a deal. And the functions that it has a smart like you can't you can't tweet from your jewel like you can't earn your so jewel. When I say jewel, all the younger people and I'm that person now. I think I'm saying the J.U.U.L. smoking thing, which I still have never seen in real life. But I'm talking J.O.U.L.E. the sous vide kitchen appliance. If you have your jewel, it's going to take a while to cook things and you probably pre prepped everything that's going to go in it. So you you pre heat it from your from your phone, which it doesn't get that hot. So it doesn't really matter. And then once it's pre heated, you just go dunk your thing in and then you can monitor from your phone when it's going to be done. And in some cases, it's going to be like three hours if you're cooking, I believe a frozen chicken breast. So like it can be a while monitor from your phone is kind of cool and it doesn't get that hot. So I get that. But with like some random toaster oven that can get to 400 degrees and you can pre heat it from your phone like that just that seems extremely unnecessary. That's where I store my manuscripts. Perfect. Perfect. That's the other thing is like if it's if you have a smart connected devices device, I'm sure I can find some that are legitimate, although I can't really off the top of my head right now. The scope seems to always be too much for me. Like why does it do these things? Like there was a story recently of a girl who her mom tried to ban her off of Twitter. So she took her like laptop away or something or her phone. So she tweeted from her like DS that she took her DS away. So she tweeted from the Wii. So she took her Wii away. So she tweeted from the fridge and I was like why why can you tweet from the fridge? Like what? Oh man. That's the world we live in now. But just like come on. That's ridiculous. I am like I'm sure there's some use case where you have like a private Twitter account and just your family is able to follow that Twitter account. And then you can like go in the fridge and be like I press the milk button and it auto tweets out like hey mom give me some milk. Like sure. Okay. But there's got to be easier ways to do that too. I don't know why I'm reminded of this but when Astric you know the open source phone system thing was new. Yeah. I set up an Astric system and just for the lulls one of the extensions you could dial in this corporate phone system would take you to play Zork the text adventure and it would text to speech read you what was happening and you could dial in the commands. So I'm pretty sure we could set it up so that you know just touch tone phone dialing we could get Twitter going. Yeah probably. I don't even think that would be that hard. Twitter is so freaking simple. Oh man. Obviously like attachments and stuff wouldn't work but there's a service for prisoners so like prisoners are not allowed to have technology at least in the US. I mean you guys probably have like fancy resort prison in Canada but in the US they're not allowed to really have that kind of technology but there's a service that people on the outside can subscribe to and so like you add your own social media to it like the prisoners family or whatever like you know say you know say you accidentally ran over somebody and you're going to go to jail for two or three years for manslaughter but you want to keep in touch with the family but you know it's prison. The service will print your Twitter feed and mail it. And then so they'll have you know they get your feed but in mail form once a week. Oh man. That's actually wild. Huh. I kind of oh that's a lot of do you get like a book? Well I mean it's not you don't I mean I guess if you subscribe to like a million people it would probably only be like first ten pages. But the idea is like if you're taking pictures of your kids or your spouse is in prison and you're taking pictures of your kids or your family and you know your stuff's going on or you make a post to Facebook like you know grandma's diabetes medicine went up again then all that gets printed and mailed to a prison somewhere. And then they can just read it. And they can reply by mail. Like they can send a letter to the service and you know. Oh my goodness. Prisoners have a limited ability to send email though. It's very limited. But they can send email. They send physical mail. Stale mail. Oh yeah okay. That's really interesting. I had no idea any of that stuff existed. I know next to those are my Discord notifications guys sorry about that. I don't know if I can mute that. Give me one second. I should be able to. Oh no if I mute Discord I mute you. That won't work. Okay let's not worry about it. Sorry about the Discord notifications my dudes. Next up in the fun government things. FAA asks citizens to please not stick weapons on their drones. Well that's not a problem for us here in the States because you know as a citizen of the great nation of you know United States of America if I want to manufacture my own firearms for my own personal use that is my right under the Second Amendment. So like if I want to construct my own like if I want to queue from raw metal and the sweat of my brow you know a 1911 pistol that has no serial number or anything that is my God given right. Yeah that's amazing. Okay but this says that you get fined 25 grand for each violation. Yeah they're just it's like you're you can't so you can't make traps is what they're flying this under as. So like you holding a weapon you making a weapon that's totally okay but you putting a weapon on a drone that's not okay. You're going to accidentally do something bad and for a lot of places have been not getting any kind of rain or anything the flame throwing drones that would be bad. That would be a good easy way to accidentally start a forest fire that no firefighter can actually reach. Yeah they seem to be saying was done in response to online videos showing drones it does specifically call out flame thors and it says guns attached to them and I guess that would be is there any laws I don't I'm not very up on American laws in general but especially not their firearms stuff. Is there any laws about like reckless use of a firearm? Yes lots of laws about reckless use of a firearm. So I feel like attaching a gun to a drone would probably fall under reckless use of a firearm whatever that's actually called. Yes. There was a farm in Texas that got in trouble some ranch owner owned a couple hundred acres and he had a service where you could actually there was like a deer stand and you could sign up and control a rifle on a turret and it was I mean it's completely safe because it was like a live range but the deer would come from the tree line you know into the range and you could shoot deer over the internet that was frowned upon and so that's not a thing anymore but that was totally basically okay in the US. You could shoot real deer over the internet that's like the most intense version of buck hunter ever. I think in Canada or not in Canada in Alaska it's still okay to hunt like wolves and bears and stuff from a helicopter. From a helicopter? Well okay isn't that that's totally okay for boars in Texas right? I think so. Yeah. Probably. It's just you gotta like not be reckless about it so it's gotta be those very rural like. You gotta not be reckless about your machine gun from your helicopter. Very low population density. Those kind of things. Yeah that makes sense. That's fantastic. If you do ever come visit we'll go to the range you'll have a lot of fun. I um my grandpa was in the Marines and he's taken me to ranges basically every time I've seen him for quite a while. I'm not saying I wouldn't love to go. I want to actually we were talking about this in the pre-show I want to come check out your studio and everything so that would be fantastic. It would be awesome. Combination technology and guns. Guns are a form of technology as it turns out. Yes. That's always a fun thing to bring up when it's like people are like ah this isn't tech news and I'm like yeah? Are you sure? It probably is. Pretty much no matter what we're talking about it probably is. I think with that though we can probably conclude the show. Can you tell everyone all the various places that they can find you? Uh I'm Wendell from level one you can just Google me it's fine. That's about all you need to do. I'm at T.E.K. Wendell on Twitter and level the number one text T.E.C.H.S. dot com. There we go. Not a big deal. Cool. Does YouTube stuff, does Twittery stuff and soon I guess we could say that? Yes. Soon floatplane stuff. Floatplane! Level one is coming to floatplane so that's like number five at this point? Five or six? Six. I think. It'll be whoever wins between you and he's signed whatever sounds good. You in science studio. To actually like go live first. It turns out that floatplane is actually a nice platform. YouTube a little bit of a dumpster fire these days. Yes! That's a win in my department. Success! Oh man. Okay. Awesome. Yeah. That's it for the show guys. Thank you everyone for watching. Oh! Actually I'm gonna not forget here real quick. Sorry. I'm gonna jump to let's put something on screen that doesn't matter. And then jump here. I just want to read off super chats. Oh yeah. Super chats. Is there just the one? I think there's just one. That's amazing. Thank you random citizen. I think it's cause we skipped out on reading them so many times in a row. We are so good at this. Okay yeah. Gordy tech channel donated two pounds and said turn Wendell up. Well thanks Gordy tech channel. I'll try to sit closer to the mic next time. I deeply appreciated my man. Okay. That's it. Thanks everyone for coming to the stream. I'll see you guys next time. See you guys next time. See you guys next time.