 Are you ready? Yeah! Okay, we've been through this before. Yes. You don't get to wear a nerd fusion shirt. I'm sorry. Unless Hillary wins the election. Right. We've been through this before. Yeah. I'm pretty sure we've been through this on stream before. So you guys bore witness to this. We wear nerd fusion shirts if Hillary wins and they wear Linus Tech Tip shirts. See, I'm in the uniform. See how my shirt matches this lower third? Matches this mug? Wait, what? Apparently we have mugs now. Oh yeah. That's why that's sitting there. Which I'm totally gonna drink from. Which I definitely always enjoy a hot beverage on the WAN Show. I don't only drink ice water. We should just, now that they know that, randomly throughout the show, we have to just be like, mmm, yes, mmm, mmm. Well, you know, I just. I just, I really need coffee to nail this point home. Don't even take a break to swallow. Just like, so I think. When that Norway newspaper wrote that thing in their paper and then challenged Zuckerberg, it was really a pretty intense thing. Yeah, it was really a shouting match that I would, that I would have loved to participate in. Drink coffee too? Yeah, drink coffee too. Yeah. Calmly. Yes. In a sedate manner. What were we talking about? I literally don't. Wait, these shirts. Oh right, there was the bet with, there was the bet with Sevadis. So there's a bet with Matt, Sevadis, Zygurski on who wins the election. I said Trump was gonna win. Well, it's more of a. He said not Trump was gonna win. They should have to wear our shirts for way longer. I actually don't remember the exact terms. I don't know. I might have, I might have not gone one to one odds actually. I think I might have demanded like better Vegas odds on it than just, you know, one month to one month. Like it is in reality, it's not just a Linus versus Sevadis bet. No. You, you, you got, they made it a Linus Media Group versus Nerd Fusion as a whole. So the entire companies have to wear each other's shirts depending on who wins. And we have to pay for the other company to have enough shirts to wear. Which is like actually not insignificant given they have like eight people. So we would have to buy all of our shirts for them? Yeah. Oh, wrecked. Yeah, we're not gonna. So you sort of want to win and also don't. Yes. Okay. Well, I, yeah, well, I don't want to win at all. But that's a whole other conversation. Either if you want to win. So we've got a whole tertiary conversation. All right. So we've got a lot of great topics for you guys today. Like Norway and Facebook. Clashing over news censorship. They're going head to head. There's a new Mario game for iOS. Yeah. Sony launched their AMD Polaris powered PlayStation 4 Pro and VR adoption among Steam users has crashed. To a halt. Yep. To a halt. Not surprised. A halt. Not surprised. A halt. Not surprised. A halt. Not surprised. Should be fine, except that I tore down the streaming machine today. Sort of a little bit. Why? Well, I needed to. Okay. Okay. So I actually have what I think is a really cool new segment. And I know you guys are going to give me a bunch of crap about new segments all the time. This is, I like this a lot, but I have a new segment that we're calling. This is possibly my favorite segment that you've ever started. Really? This is what I am personally most interested in. Really? Yeah. Okay. That's why I was like, I really want you to do this. Okay. So the new segment is called haunted hardware. And basically I'm always telling stories, especially on Wanshow. I'm always telling you guys stories about like just bizarro land stuff that I have witnessed. Like, you know, I mean, okay, it's hard to do this. It's like, it's hard to come up with something on the spot. It is. Okay. Okay. Okay. Perfect example that isn't the one that I use in the video as an example is I had a machine once that would not install an operating system. It would crash on the loading bar for Windows XP while it was like unpacking files or whatever every single time consistently. 100% of the time I swapped the power supply, installed Windows just fine. I went, okay, bad power supply, but I don't have a lot of money. I'm a student. I'm going to put that other power supply back in and just kind of see if it was a system runs perfectly. Absolutely perfectly. Stress test all day. No problems whatsoever. I could do anything with it. In fact, I left the power supply in there. It ran for years after that. Years. Okay. But I wasn't done yet. Okay. So I put, I actually, I was so curious. I was like, okay, I'm going to burn another half an hour to an hour of my time because I want to know if this is reproducible. So I put it back in and I tried to install Windows again. Same exact hardware. Crash. And I'm just sitting here going, how can you have a system that is 100% stable other than that you cannot install Windows on it? That's so random. But the problem... I would have really enjoyed if you tried a different OS. You know what? I wasn't even aware of other OSs at this time. This is like when I was first getting into computers. So anyway, but the point of that is that that story is just a story. And you guys could not believe me or you could believe me or you could say, gee, I wish you had tried another thing. Well, see, but no, that's why I'm excited for the series. Because now I'm interested and I'm engaged. I love that kind of stuff. So now, now, oh, I'm going to capture the whole thing on video. So I... Are you going to tell them what it is? No, no, I'm not going to tell them what it is. I was like, that's a big... All right. Oh, I'm not going to tell them what it is. No, absolutely not. But stay tuned for Haunted Hardware. It's very topical. Because it's like super topical, very current events related. And I document the whole thing. I reproduce it. I demonstrate. Like there's a point where I go from scratch with a lot of the camera rolling the entire time. And what I'm thinking is we will upload that video in its entirety. Unlisted separately. We'll link it in the description. If you don't believe me. Here's the proof. There you go. So yeah, it should be pretty exciting. I'm pretty stoked on that. Topical, not tropical. They are very different. I mean, I was reading an article about how we've... I think we've eliminated a tenth of the wilderness in the world in the last two decades. About equivalent to half of the land area of Australia. Whoa. Yeah, in the last 20 years. So mostly in Central Africa and in the tropics. So that would be a tropical topic. Or a topical tropic. Yeah, there we go. But they are not the same thing. That cocking gun thing just looks like a really crappy chalk outline of a gun. No one's going to know what I'm talking about. It does kind of. It's in the workshop. I don't know where the cocking gun is. Oh, I know what they're using it for. Also, I look partially angelic. Look at my hair. If you ask your mom, you look fully angelic. Aw, thanks, mom. Yeah, you know she would say it. Probably. Yep. Can't say I always agree. You know, sometimes he gets kind of naughty. Wow. Okay, so moving on to our first topic of the day. Big topic. Facebook backs down. They back down, y'all, on censoring the napalm girl photo. After public outcry, Facebook plans to restore the image and review its processes. So if you weren't following this along, Norway's largest newspaper published a front-page open letter to Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg. Zupperberg. Zupperberg. It's like the body snatcher replacement for Mark Zuckerberg. So they're lambasting the company's decision to censor an historic photo, anhistoric, no, it's a-historic or anhistoric, photograph of the Vietnam War, calling Zuckerberg to recognize and live up to his role as the world's most powerful editor. Which is an interesting way of stating that and kind of true. And it is kind of true. I mean, if something doesn't exist on Facebook, for a lot of people I know, it basically does not exist. At the same time, you could argue that Google is even more powerful that way. I don't know. You know, I haven't looked at it recently. It would be interesting to weigh them. Yeah, because Facebook and Google are both always publishing statistics of like how many people log in and look at their Facebook feed like once per day. And I think Facebook's numbers are actually scarier. Really? Google, they don't have quite as many services that you just, like if you go to the Google.com homepage, they don't have suggested news stories there somehow. Still, after all these years. Right, but like every time you type something into the search bar, that's a search. That's true. That's true. But all you have to do is go to Facebook.com and your feed, which is curated. Curated by people you know, so you inherently trust it more. It's also full of advertisements and is full of promoted stories and stuff like that. So I would make the argument that for the passive user, not the active user, because I personally look at Google a lot more than I look at Facebook. Google and Google services a lot more than Facebook ones. But for the passive user who's just like vegging, like sitting at their computer, kind of browsing something, probably Facebook is more relevant. And if Facebook decides something doesn't exist, I think for a lot of people they just basically would never see it. Where are they going to see it? My Facebook is open a lot because I use it for like, I have this group where like some friends from high school and I just all share music. So I like play music through there almost constantly. But I don't like go through my feed. But I think you're probably right, a huge portion of people would spend more overall time there. So anyway, I could elaborate on the story, but I realized I never posted on Facebook since we're talking about this. Tune into the WAN show. Yeah, I can't have a waterfall anymore from Twitter to Facebook because it just completely buries everything we post that way. I hate that. Which is pretty annoying because basically all they're doing is wasting my time. They're making me copy paste things. I kind of want to like create our own little plot that will just like. It's probably against terms of service. Yeah. God damn it. Like probably definitely is. But that would be so nice because if you created your own bot, it wouldn't know because it wouldn't be pushed. It wouldn't be going through the API services. You could just have it literally like copy and paste it in to make it like a normal paste. All right. So going back into what happened, the writer of the story was suspended from posting on Facebook for 24 hours. He posted a historic Vietnam War image of a naked girl fleeing from her napalm bombed village. They then published a story discussing and criticizing the deletion of the image, and that post was also removed. Well, for containing the same image. The notice from Facebook explains that any images with nudity in them will be removed. So Espen Hansen, editor in chief and CEO of Afton Poston, I probably butchered that, but I'm sorry, accused Zuckerberg of abusing his power. And then after that, the prime minister of Norway decided to speak out about the situation. She did this on Facebook, but several of her posts on the topic were also deleted, which is getting pretty ridiculous at that point. To be fair, this is probably just a bot going crazy. I seriously doubt this is someone like manually intervention be like, no, screw you, Norway. Like, I don't know. It's also a matter of and we have so there is an anonymous anonymous Facebook spokesperson who responded, saying, Well, we recognize that the photo is iconic. It's difficult to create a distinction between allowing a photograph of a nude child in one instance just going to say and not others above. It said girl. Yes. And if this was an underage girl, it is. So we try to find the right balance between enabling people to express themselves while maintaining a safe and respectful experience for our global community. Our solutions won't always be perfect, but we'll continue to try to improve our policy. And they have since backed down and allowed the posting of this particular image, which is interesting. Which is interesting, but I also completely get where they're coming from. I mean, we discussed this on Wanshow last week without you. But YouTube, Google, well, you weren't there. You did anything without me. Yes, I did something without you. I will make it up to you tonight. So so basically Google has cracked down on the not the posting of. So this was why I publicly and strongly disagreed with some YouTuber statements that this is censorship, which it is not. If you can say whatever you want, that is not censorship. When someone refuses to pay you for saying whatever you want, that's not censorship. That's a completely different thing. And and because they're not taking people's videos down or closing people's channels. That's something I was getting really annoyed because there's so many videos that are like my channel being closed. I'm like, no, it's not. You would be closing your channel. Yes, they're just taking money. Anyways, this is an occurrence, which is a whole other issue. And it's and it's just a cold hard reality for if you're taking money from sponsors that you're going to have to behave in a way that sponsors approve of. And it was going to happen eventually. But it's a very one quick second. Yeah, I did. Someone posted a thing. We can move to this after I was going to kind of close this. But basically what I didn't agree with was the way Google's doing it, where they take this heavy handed ban everything approach. And then probably what they will do is they will they will chip away like like it's kind of like they take like a big like a big brick of marble. They just kind of shoot. OK, so we're just like everything's covered. And then they're just going to slowly chip away at the stuff that it turns out is actually OK until they end up with a statue of the devil stuff that no sponsor wants. They're going once their advertisements anywhere near and Facebook is doing it in much the same way. But the reality of it is, is do they really have a choice? Can Facebook manually go through and decide on every picture of a naked kid that's OK when they first implement a policy? And so I actually like I kind of agree with everything that happened here except Facebook removing the posts complaining about the removal. Unless they also contain the picture. That's what I'm saying. I'm wondering about the the the what was it? Was it Prime Minister? I don't want to get the position wrong. Yeah, so it was Erna Solberg, Prime Minister of Norway. I'm wondering what the details of those posts. If it's just text complaining about the removal, that's crazy that that was removed. But if it was like, I can't believe this was removed. This is fine. Then I would be like, OK, I understand that. I understand that. Anyways, what I was going to say was someone was talking about how maybe a good solution for the monetization dropping that's going on YouTube. Yeah, it would be different pools. So Google could have like advertisers that allow their ads to go on more like crazy videos or like traditionally not advertiser friendly videos. And like companies that want to have their ads on these crazy videos can get cheaper ad buys. And maybe you get put in a lower monetization group, which is only open to those things. Did you you said that? OK, all right. I didn't watch the show. I don't know. It makes sense. Yeah, it does make sense. Everyone's like, let him keep going. No, don't tell him. Don't tell him. No, you started smiling weird. And I was like, I don't know what's happening. And Linus never talks to Twitter. That's why. So I didn't know if you were trying to write to me or not, because you don't normally type to Twitch chat. No, I agree. I agree completely. I think that's how they should do it. And I think that's how they will do it. And anyone from Google watches the WAN show, which I'm not convinced that they do. But hey, if it managed to make it off WAN show and back to you, because I'm pretty sure you didn't watch the WAN show. You'd have known that I was the one who said that. Yeah. I mean, someone else has probably come up with the idea independently as well. I'm sure it's already the plan. It's just a matter of it being difficult and complicated. And they would have to I mean, this is something a lot of people don't know. A typical sponsor, if you're lucky, is negotiating their ad buys on a quarterly basis. Some of them will do it on like a yearly basis. Like we'll talk to a sponsor in like June and we'll be like, hey, so we'd love to work together. We've got this cool idea for Q4. They'll be like, yep, all of our ad buys are pre-allocated at the beginning of the year. And I'm kind of sitting here going, and I hope none of our sponsors are watching this, especially those ones. But what do you even do all day? Like seriously, like what is your actual job if at one point at the beginning of the year, you basically take all of the brain power out of deciding how to spend the advertising dollars that you have for the year. We probably manage those contracts to be. Understand though, too, that a lot of the time bigger brands, they subcontract this through agencies, right? Well, as far as I've been able to tell, because I talked to someone about this, I'm not going to say names or anything. Because I've asked people like why the hell do you actually do this? Because I hate dealing with, sorry, Danny Middleman. I hate dealing with the middlemen because you always end up just having pass through conversations. And they're like, OK, we're confused because they told us one thing and now there's stuff going on. And then everyone has to kind of figure it out. You're just adding more steps to the process. We had a deal fall through recently where we got on a call with the agency and the brand. And it turned out that our OK. So there are actually four layers here. So there was us, our MCN. There was the brand agency and there was the brand. Four layers. So our MCN did a great job. The brand had a clear idea of what they wanted. And honestly, those things were pretty well aligned. The agency basically passed along no information. The call was a complete cluster hump and we found out shortly after the call. It's like the guys last week there anyway. So the deal completely fell through. So carry on. Yeah. So this stuff is frustrating. I don't want to deal with it anyway. So I asked someone who was at one of the companies, not one of the PR companies, but one of the like companies that would hire the PR companies who was a PR person. We call them the brand, right? The brand. So we go. Brand versus like agency. There we go. So I'm talking to a PR person from the brand and ask them why they don't do it. And it's a shield. Yeah. If their PR effort fails, yes, they can just be like their fault. Meet shield. Not brands fault. Yep. Bye bye. And again, this is going back to my personal theories. It is a personal shield as well. What do you mean? Like if I worked at IBM, let's say something massive. Oh no, definitely. For everyone at the brand, throughout the whole chain, the brand itself and the people working at the brand. It's all a shield. It's a meet shield. Yeah. So all they have to say is, OK, well, next year we will reallocate that entire chunk somewhere else. That's we're going to reallocate it into social. So basically someone gets paid an actual salary for an actual entire year to make a decision at the beginning of the year at one point in time to go, OK, we are going to allocate. We are going to listen to some proposals and we are going to allocate budget here, here, here and here. And then if it works, then I will be submitting a great report about how well it worked. And if it doesn't work, I'm going to submit a report about how I fired those people. Oh, man. Corporations, man. Become a PR person. Yeah, but you got to work your way up the food chain. You got to get to the brand. Yeah. So first you'll be first you'll be like the deal with. Yeah, you got to deal with being a meat. You have to survive as a meat shield first. Yeah, it's basically like warfare. But with words. Yes. So in much the same way, you can either survive as a meat shield and get promoted or you can just be born into it because like nepotism or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. You have to defend against the Internet's flamethrowers of compassion. All right. So moving on to our next topic. Oh, yes. Sony launches an AMD Polaris powered PlayStation 4 Pro. So our original article here is from WCCF Tech. It's probably fine because this is like there's actually like a press release. Here are some specs like it's not speculation. Spec eulation. Well, I can't believe I've never made that joke before. Wow. Yeah. So basically there's a single chip custom processor featuring eight Jaguar cores, though we do know that they are clocked higher. So they're faster Jaguar cores. But OK. We have a one point eight four teraflop AMD Radeon based graphics engine, so we know that this is not quite double the theoretical performance of what was already in the PlayStation four. It's available with a five hundred gig or a one terabyte drive. It's got eight gigs of GDDR5 memory. It has a Blu Ray drive and Ethernet port. Ten gig LAN. No, I'm just kidding. Just gigabit. It's approximately two point one kilograms. Starts at four hundred US dollars. Starts at four hundred US dollars. Wait a second. Wait, so they're out now? This is the new slim standard model. Gosh darn it. This is the new. This is the. It's still eight gigs of GDDR5 because that much is in the notes. Dang it. Where is the Pro one? AnonTech had a good article on it. I was looking at that. OK. So the Pro one higher clock speeds. It is still eight gigs of RAM that is said to run at higher clocks too and is bolstered by new lossless memory compression technology from AMD. The GPU component features over double the shading power of the PlayStation four and is based on the players. OK. So basically I got everything right. The Pro starts at three ninety nine. OK. We got everything right even though we were looking at an article that I don't actually think was about it. So go Linus and Luke. So OK. In a nutshell. What Sony is trying to do is they are trying to make their console all about 4K and they're still approaching it from sort of a lackluster sort of angle. That's not grammatically correct. But let's go with it. Lackluster angle. So they're still approaching it in a way that is quite frankly just not going to work because as the college educated among you may know 4K is four times the speed of light. So that is four times the pixel count of 1080p. So right off the hop if we're running games at anything less than 60 FPS native 1080p on the PlayStation four which we most assuredly are we will need four times the theoretical performance. It doesn't quite work like that. But we will need more than two times the theoretical performance of the original PlayStation four in order to gain it for a case movie at the same frame rates. Because there's like a lot of variables. There's a lot more to it than that. Shaders are not the same as like your overall pixel fill rate is not the same as how your memory bandwidth affects all of that. Like you could you could double the functional units in the GPU. But if you didn't increase the memory bandwidth at all then you wouldn't get doubling and theoretical doubling does not equal practical real world doubling. So there's a lot of things going on here. Unless you have memory bandwidth that was already capable of the doubling. Even if you fully like double doubled without making any kind of architectural change I don't know that you would get double the performance. We could test it though. We could we could go find a GPU that has exactly half of the coup de corps of the higher end one. See how it works out. We might have to know other changes though. We might have to overclock and underclock. But there'd probably be like memory bandwidth changes and stuff. Yeah. OK. I don't know if it would be possible. Well let me tell you what we'll call up Nvidia or AMD. We'll be like hey can you send us a custom GPU. Can you like seal off half of the. Are you there still. So it's going to be the war again. Last time there was a PlayStation and Xbox launch and there is coming up there will be a place to the next box launch. There was all the image comparisons. Every single tech YouTuber including us and probably this will happen again is going to create computers that are like the same price or cheaper and better. Or the same performance. And then everyone's going to be like but as computer parts keep coming out and these consoles are going to stay here for a little while in the future we'll have even better ones. And then with the next GPU launch there will be even more videos of people going like oh man look you can even make faster computers for the same price as the consoles. But then the consoles are going to go down in price and the whole war is going to come. Do you want to redo 792p versus six year old graphics card. I can. That would be pretty funny. Yeah. That one's got almost a million views. Nine hundred and twenty six thousand. I kind of enjoyed that video. It's a there's again like I just said for your like doubling thing. There's some problems with it but it was a fun video. That's true. So I don't know. Sometimes I'm kind of excited for the war again just because I like. I like what it brings in terms of like people actually building low cost computers. Yeah and I get a kick out of I get a kick out of how much more and more PC like the consoles continue to become. It's like now all of a sudden you can get PlayStations with different specs. Yes my friends PlayStation 4s with different core specs. And when you run games in your better PlayStation 4 versus your peasant PlayStation 4 we're going to we're going to have like a whole new level. There's going to be like there's going to be like like the PC MR guys are going to be like there's like console peasants and then there's like console like vassals or something. There's going to be like rankings and it's all going to be dramatic and it's going to be all over the YouTube comments and I'm going to sit back and I'm going to laugh. But but in a nutshell OK Tony needed to do this for a couple of reasons. Number one is it's all about 4K even Sony it's like you know the TV divisions kind of sitting there going like how are you guys not helping us out here. OK we're trying to sell some 4K TVs here right. So they had to have 4K support whether it's for Blu Ray or whether it is for gaming 4K support had to come. So they had to do something more powerful because the original PlayStation 4 was going to run games at like 12 frames per second twice as cinematic as 24 frames per second. Also PlayStation VR there was speculation that Sony was going to use some rendering tricks some frame interpolation tricks. They were going to figure out how to get PS VR running on the original PlayStation 4 and have it be a good experience. We were skeptical looks like they didn't play station pro or is that what they're calling it PlayStation 4 pro. Yeah PS 4 pro is going to be the way to experience PS VR if you care at all about a good experience. How does it make you professional. If you were a pro gamer you probably wouldn't game on a like peasant station for if you're a pro gamer. I bet they're going to call it peasant station for someone will call it peasant station for a PlayStation 4 pro owner is going to start that. You might have just started that yourself. I'm not sure. Yeah people are going to start having pictures of the original PlayStation 4 or peasant station for them have like fake dirt on it. Yeah. Oh man like it's the peasant station for. Oh my this is going to be confusing actually one of the really good things about consoles for a long time was the like easy gifting idea. Plug and play the mom could just go to the store and be like my son wants the Xbox and then or the PlayStation. Yeah. It'd be like here's the newest one. Yeah. Here is one game. The only game that matters right now. Yeah. Your son will or daughter will have to wait two years for more interesting games. Yeah. And that's and it was fine. And now it's going to be like and we liked it that way. Do you want the 500 gig model. Do you want the one terabyte model. Do you want the pro model. Do you want the non pro model. Is your son not a professional. Is your daughter going to grow up to pump gas all her life. I mean that's OK but you're not going to want the professional. You're going to want this one. And part of the problem is that this might actually introduce like competitive advantages. Pleb station for is another name for OK. Yeah. That'll probably be used. You should maybe straw poll a few names that you see in there and see who station. Poop station sounds like a different thing. It does just literally sounds like a toilet. Yeah. Apparently does not support 4K Blu ray. I did not know that. I'd imagine that'll come with a firmware update. There is no way that it doesn't support 4K Blu ray at some point. That's ridiculous. Anyways what I was going to say was it might actually introduce a competitive advantage because if you're getting significantly more frame rate like maybe in older games that aren't meant to run or aren't designed to run at higher resolution. They might run faster. I was wrong. I did not follow the PlayStation 4 pro news because I don't care. But no the absence of a 4K Blu ray player is due to a lack of consumer demand. According to PlayStation boss Andrew House support cannot be patched in via firmware update at a later date either. He confirmed. Okay. Oh yeah. Lack of consumer demand. The very first question on Amazon.com when you scroll down on the preorder page with over two times the we can switch to my screen if you'd like. Over two times the up votes of any other question only at 42. But this is the it's covered up by the I'll scroll. It's okay. I got it. I want to give it the old fancy. Well we're going to do this. It's only 42 votes as you can see there. But it's like it's still up there. And this is the preorder page on Amazon way before you can buy it. So I'm not suspecting that much. And there's 206 answers which is insane compared to like the one or six or zero answers on the other question. I like the top answer. Most mind boggling decisions in console history. No it cannot play ultra HD blu ray's. So yeah. Lack of consumer demand may be an inaccurate statement. I mean it may not also be completely like OK. I personally own a movie watching setup that has a 65 inch TV literally a meter from my face. OK. I am about as target a market as 4K blu ray could possibly have. I could not possibly care less. Really. I do like honestly I'll tell you I have bought DVDs like even recently like before I got that setup. And now I'm really disappointed I own DVDs. But streaming 4K does not look better than 1080p blu ray and 1080p blu ray looks great. Even at that distance. I have not. Because streaming 4K is not the same. Oh no it's not. It's not the same on like a few levels. Which is a whole other way to attack Sony's argument for why it doesn't support that. I'm going to go pretty blunt here and say that I don't think you can comment if you haven't seen it. OK. OK fine. So I'll tell you what. I will obtain a 4K blu ray at some point and we will revisit this conversation. That could be a cool video. Is 4K blu ray worth it? Actually that's probably a pretty good video. I should probably do that. You should probably. And I'll be like for you no. But for me. When it's on meter above your face. Hell yeah. OK but like. Shit what was I going to say. I think that consumer demand would be more existent if this thing did support it. Yeah. Because I don't think that many people are going to want to go buy a player for 4K blu ray. But if their PlayStation already supported it. Maybe they would buy a couple discs. Yeah. Maybe. Especially if they were cheap. Like especially by the time. And maybe that's part of the problem. Maybe they don't feel like supporting it because they're not going to get $29.99 for a blu ray disc anymore. So maybe the royalties just aren't even. Like I don't know what the rationale internally at Sony is exactly. But basically they've decided it's not worth it. Yeah. But like personally. Especially for like five bucks. Like in the seven dollar bin. Maybe not tomorrow. Because 4K blu ray is going to be expensive for a bit. But in the seven dollar bin in a few years. I would rather own it. Than stream it. Me too. In a lot of cases. Yep. Me too. I don't buy everything. A lot of stuff I stream. Certain content though. Especially like I'm buying House of Cards. Even though I have a 4K Netflix subscription. Hackers. Harry Potter. Lord of the Rings. Secret Life of Walter Mitty. The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus. These are all things that I'd like to have on. Yep. On a physical media that I own. Yep. I mean I don't keep them on physical media. Because I made that video. Yeah. Because it's stupid. I agree with that. But. You have it. Because Netflix is really volatile. Without web compression. Yep. I have it forever. Yep. Because I paid for it. And these streaming services are volatile. I don't think Netflix is going to go away. That's not what I mean by volatile. No. But the content that's on there can change. Yep. And does change. And it's designed that way. Like it's supposed to be like that. They're not going to license everything. Because that costs money. And I love it. And it's fine. And people who watch Netflix are going to like watch Netflix regularly. They want to be refreshing it. So that's fine. Yeah. It also creates that urgency. Like when you see something. Like it's very smart actually. What was I talking about? Oh, right. I was going to add this to the. So. Is 4K Blu-ray worth it? No. But. I like it. So there. That's already the whole video. All 6,782 of you can save yourselves the effort. But for everyone else. Hopefully that will be a good video. I still kind of want it. Like. It's totally not worth it. And it goes completely against the algorithm stuff. That YouTube is trying to use right now. But I would still love to make that channel. That we talked about back at the old office. I don't know if you remember this. I talked about it with a one plus review. I think it was the one plus one that I was talking about it for. Where I would be like. It's just like super short tech reviews. So like 30 second review. Yeah. Like terrible company. Good phone. Problems with software stuff. Look it up on the forums. But it's cheap. But it's cheap. See you next time. And like. You could review graphics cards like that. Because you could just take a price performance graph. And be like. It's slots here. See you next time. I hate you. But seriously though. So many things could be done that way. Everyone's suggesting we do tech quickie reviews. Tech quickie reviews? Tech quickie could start doing product reviews. Hmm. We even have a place to put it potentially. That's so short though. It's shorter than tech quickies. Because tech quickies aren't really like the fastest possible segment. Well they used to be fastest possible. Now they're like. As much history and context as possible. Yeah. Yeah they're not that short. No. Yeah. I don't know. Twitch chat's freaking out. They want it on tech quickie. It's so short. Because these would be like. They're like patent it. 30 second. These would be like 30 second videos. Yeah. I don't know. We need to trademark the name React. React? Oh lord. Maybe we could trademark the name 30 second videos. And then if anyone makes a video that's 30 seconds long. We can just crush them. Ba bow. Turbo tech. That's not a bad name for it. Turbo tech. Hmm. Whoa slow down there turbo. I don't know. Twitch chat's like flipping out. They love this. I'm just soaking in the Twitch chat experience right now. But yeah do you remember that conversation? We talked about it with the OnePlus. I actually do vaguely remember it. But I had completely forgotten. I had like a script for the OnePlus One done. At that point in time. I don't remember where it ended up going. But. It was like you can do it for so many things. Oh man. Any modern motherboard. Here's all the ports it has. Enjoy. By the way if you want to put your old CPU on it. Get crapped on it. CPUs. More cores. They're slightly faster. It consumes less power. Enjoy. You can just. And then like you could just copy paste videos. So like don't. Don't say the product name in the video. And then if like. If the content of the review would be the same. You just put a different title on it and re-upload it. So like every CPU cooler that comes out. Heat pipes check. Aluminum fans check. Flat bottom surface check. That comes with a fan check. Performance pretty good. And then okay that could be the difference for every video. There would just be performance pretty good. And there's a graph while you say performance pretty good. And it just slots it wherever it goes. Which is going to be like exactly where the ones in the same form factor go. And then you're done. Not the worst idea I've ever heard. I mean it. Okay. It's so far away from like advertiser friendly. And it's completely the opposite of what YouTube wants. Yeah we're going to get killed on watch time. Oh destroyed. I think we're going to get killed on like comments. Probably. Because like we're going to have to. Like that's the thing. Is we're going to have to get down and dirty with like fanboy arguments. Like if we're going to try and summarize an AMD or an Nvidia graphics card. We're going to have to be like runs hot is loud. Worst drivers. I love that you didn't say what brand there. No that's because it switches generation by generation. It does. But no but okay the reason why I said that is because the copy paste video thing that I was talking about. Because you could just use that for like a bunch of different cards. I like it way too much. I just it does have a it has a lot of problems. And the thing is people don't even want that. People want no words. Yep. Even if they're pretty close to unnecessary they want words. And sometimes the words are about pacing and they're about absorbing what you're looking at. And adding impact to a certain part of the video or like specifically what you're saying or whatever else. Like I have intentionally over the years on Linus Tech Tips and on Tech Quickie increased the length of the videos to add more depth and more analysis and more history. I had a benchmark for text length for videos before. Yep. And I think I got it from you. And it was a page and a half. Including your intro and all the extra stuff that's on our templates. And now that's way too short. Yep. It has to be two pages if not more. And the audience expects they expect like a seven to eight minute video and they expect us to say something meaningful in that time. So maybe this would just be a way to let off steam. Yeah. Be like this thing sucks. It costs too much. Don't buy it. That would be awesome. This can transition us into our next topic. Yeah. What's our next topic? Let's do our ad spots. Oh, perfect. Dollar Shave Club. Let's see if I can hold this note until I bring up my talking points. It doesn't cost too much. It's pretty awesome. You don't have to go to the store. They're delivered to your house. The quality of the product is good. They have more than just razors. And if you sign up now, you will get the executive blade on promo for a bit until maybe the promo is gone. Crap. Yes, yes, you get a free month of the executive razor. US Australia. You just said that. But I have to say Canada because it's like the most important one. So we can't say the other ones twice and not Canada. And dollarshaveclub.com slash Linus. Now, I think we actually do guarantee our sponsors a certain amount of air time. And I'm pretty sure that wasn't it. But wipes for men. But we usually go over it. So like, does it work that way? Can you can you like can you average? Can you bank it? Like, could we just do from now on? Because we usually do like double or triple because we just go off on these tangents during our sponsor. Like this one. Exactly like this. Maybe this will be the last one. The last tangential sponsor read. So could we just kind of go, OK, dollarshave. You guys are going to pay us the same rate that you've always paid us. But from now on, we're just going to like flash it up there for a second. We're going to be like dollarshaveclub. You guys know the drill. But back to the show. Would they just stop writing checks? Probably. How that would work? I think so. Yeah, I think so, too. All right. 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Yeah. Get about the rest of your day. You could go like, yeah, this air cooler is just the same as all other air coolers in its form factor. It looks like this. It costs this much. It fits here on a performance graph, which is exactly where you expected it to go. You can buy it at Amazon. You can buy it at Amazon. And by the way, if you hate wasting time, which is why you watch these videos, check out Dollar Shade Club. They deliver shavers to your door. Goodbye. Cooler review. Right there. Full video. Full video. Okay, there is... Editing time. 10 minutes. There is some work that has to go into the video though. Yeah, because you... Like we have to actually benchmark it. You need performance graphs. We need to validate that... If we're going to say it doesn't matter, we have to actually make sure it doesn't matter. Definitely. And you could put the performance graphs there. Someone could make a magic heat sink. Although, if Noctua is to be believed, it's much more difficult than you would think. Yeah. Did you ever watch my video from the Noctua booth? I did, actually. Oh, okay. Well, for those of you who didn't, so I'm not going to talk to you anymore. And I talked to them. Right. Okay. So, my video from the Noctua booth was really cool, because basically it was an explanation for why Noctua appears to have been completely sitting on their ass for the last three years. They haven't released a successor to the NH-D15, which took forever after the NH-D14 and was just bigger anyway. They haven't released a successor to it in years. And the answer is that they were like, well, we tried all these things and they don't work. And they showed a lot of stuff. They tried a lot of things. And they tried a lot of stuff that other companies have released products claiming that it's like way better, but actually when you actually put it on a CPU it doesn't make a difference. And it's like, oh, I can't figure out why you're not seeing a difference in our lab. We see a difference. Oh, don't come into our lab. Noctua's just like, yeah, we tried all that crap. It doesn't work. Sorry. Or they'd be like, yeah, it cost an astronomical amount more money to make and made like point two of a difference. Yeah, they made an all copper one, for example. They're like, yeah, yeah, copper is more conductive. That's cool. Yeah, that was really interesting actually. Super balls heavy and super duper balls expensive. It's like, why don't we just make about a silver at that point? I mean, do you want a $900 heat sink? Gold. Because we could make it for you. Actually gold would probably be terrible. It would droop. Oh yeah, gold would be awful. And it's not as conductive as silver anyway. Yeah, I've heard about that. Okay. All right. Let's stop beating around the bush. Apple's iPhone 7. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I got it. Hold up. iPhone 7, really expensive. No headphone jack. You can use an adapter. It's $40 and really big. Thanks for watching. This video was sponsored by Dollar Shave Club. If you hate wasting time, check out the razors. They ship directly to your door. Also, Squarespace lets you build a website. That's beautiful. In like a very short period of time. For only $8 a month. Crap, I'm bad at this. I am just inherently a verbose person. I think that's why I needed a podcast that was like an hour long. I can headliner the shit out of this channel, man. All right. So let's screen share with me the Vergeous article. The 11 most important thing from Apple's iPhone 7 event. I didn't even get all 11 of them. You suck. All of them? Mind you, I think they have the Apple Watch 2 as one of the most important things. Oh, God. I really don't think that I'm going to agree with you. Yeah, yeah. No, no. Sorry, Verge. We're done. We're done here. Although what I don't know yet. I can't believe they showed off a Pokemon Go app for the Apple Watch. That took up like a significant amount of time in the keynote. What I don't know about the Apple Watch is whether the screen is always on. I haven't actually seen that in anyone's summary, and I haven't finished watching the event yet. I haven't watched that part. So maybe Twitch chat can let me know. Supposedly it is twice as bright, which is wonderful, but I never asked for that. What I asked for was to be able to tell the freaking time when I look at it. Was the brightness a problem at all? No, it wasn't. I didn't think so. The problem was that it isn't on. And a lot of people have criticized me over this. They've been like, well, honestly, you don't get it. My Apple Watch lasts all day. I'm like, good for you. Not the point. Not the point. I want to be able to tell what time it is when I'm sitting, having an awkward conversation, and I'm trying to figure out when I need to dismiss myself from this so that I can be somewhere on time. And that doesn't work when I have to go like this. I mean, that should be like a dance. Do the watch. Do the watch. Do this specific gesture if you want to know the time. Do the watch. Do the watch. That's going to be a gift to hell. Oh, I know, right? There's nothing we can do about that. OK. What if we do them as supplementary reviews? So for every video that goes online. OK, well, let's take this conversation offline. Let's look at Apple iPhone 7. Same display as the 6S. They say it's 25% brighter. Cool. Same resolution, which I don't personally care about. I'd just as soon save the battery life and have a lower resolution display, as long as I can't tell that it's lower resolution, which quite frankly I cannot. The home button now has no physical click. This is a big one for me. This is something that, if the phone didn't have other crippling problems with it, could convince me that an iPhone is a more worthwhile purchase now than it was yesterday. Because the physical click is breakable? Because it's breakable. And because it does break. Because it breaks frequently. If it didn't really break, then it would be fine. But I've heard so many people that have to replace buttons, including you, right? Yep. And there are other issues. Like for a while, Apple wasn't allowing people to retain touch ID if they replaced the button. Insanity. Which is ridiculous. I think they've addressed that now. But the point is, now it's haptic feedback, so it feels like a click, but it's not. And if it works anywhere near as well as the MacBook 2015, it'll be awesome and I will love it. Yeah. OK, yeah. It was really impressive. Their haptic feedback engine is like very good. Very good. OK. It's water resistant. They're calling it out as IP67. And there have been scandals. So the S7 Active, you know, was found with, I think it was two samples. Consumer Reports or something like that. Anyway, it was found to not necessarily be all that water resistant. If Apple's claiming it, what I will say is it's probably pretty darn good. And I talked about this, and this is going to be really embarrassing, because I did a review of the Odyssey Sign headphones. A lightning headphone. And it got bumped because of packs. So the release to YouTube is a two week window instead of a one week window. And I speculate about the new iPhone 7, if that's what they're going to call it. And then I speculate that if the objective was to increase water resistance, like if they're going to give me some meaningful benefit out of taking away my headphone jack, then that will probably be it, because I could see Apple. Now they've eliminated the home button, which is very difficult to Ingress protect. They have eliminated the headphone jack, which is difficult to Ingress protect. So if the objective here was not only to, you know, make the phone slightly slimmer, which I don't care about, but if it was to give me a meaningful upgrade in some other way, I would be a lot more receptive to it. And it looks like that is indeed what they did, although that video will still be kind of embarrassing. So Apple's EarPods will now collect, connect through the lightning connector port. There are no headphone jack on the block. Quick thing that I want to add about your Ingress protection thing. This phone is, I don't remember what it is. IP67 if I recall correctly. I don't believe that I've taken it out of spec. It has problems. That are very probably because of water. On the other hand, the Galaxy S7 has been the best performing water resistant device that I've yet seen. Surviving, I think we went 20 feet down before it died, or 20 or 30 feet down in salt water before it managed to die. So this audio jack. Basically, yeah. So basically the point is there's a lot of variability. And if Apple has been quietly working on improving the water resistance of their devices over time, which we know, and they've basically determined, OK, well, for us to put IP67 on something, we need to eliminate these ports. And they were just kind of waiting for the right moment to do it because it's not like water resistant competitors haven't been out for quite a while now. Maybe they kind of went, OK, you know, you have to be what is it? You have to have the courage to move forward with a thing that doesn't like that. But OK, my argument to that a little bit. I said I was going to devil's advocate you, but not yet. Why don't I just have two? Go dually USB type C's. Yeah, I mean, that's an interesting. You can have one that like this one charges faster, by the way, or something. You can plug it into either. But like this one will charge your phone faster. Apple is I mean, I think they're philosophically opposed to that. Like they've never put. Yeah, they've never put an extra port on anything if they didn't have to. I mean, they even have a laptop computer that only has one port and a headphone jack, though. Oh, oh, man. I mean, are we going to see Apple's laptop? I like have they been waiting to refresh their laptops so they can put lightning connectors on them like interesting. There's a thought. So I mean, the summary is and I actually do a better job of this in my Odyssey sign review. And I'll talk about it some more when I review the iPhone seven, which I undoubtedly will. But the summary is it's a mixed bag. You get a little bit of extra space inside the device that you can use for whatever it is that you determine you need to use it for. You lose compatibility with ninety nine point nine nine nine percent of headphones on the planet without a goofy adapter that people will undoubtedly lose. Like I was actually. So I have another device here in the studio, the Droid Z Force from Lenovo, the Moto Droid Z Force from Lenovo acquired them. I think they're branding at Lenovo. Anyway, the point is it only has a USB type C connector, does not have a headphone jack. And I've used the adapter and cleverly they include this little rubber thing so that you can stick it to your headphones so it doesn't like come off and lost. I think people are ultimately going to be salty about it. I'm sorry about it. Like eight of those cables. I would prefer to just be able to plug in natively. I don't personally find that upgraded amps and Dax make a huge difference for me with the kind of source material that I use. And that quite if we're all being honest with ourselves, none of you use either. So I never wanted this. But at the end of the day. Oh, I think it's this cable. Did that change your mic? Did you fully unplug it? Oh, maybe it's worth checking. Oh, for crying out loud. But at the end of the day, people are going to accept it. I know it's still fine. And yeah, I think we're all going to move on. I mean, Apple is pushing their wireless ear pods, AirPods, is that what they're calling them? It looks so ridiculous. Yeah, they have new wireless beats. The problem for me is that this introduces yet another freaking thing in my life that I have to charge every day. That's the very first thing I thought of when I saw it was like, wow, I don't want to charge my headphones. Now, Intel showed off a couple of years ago at CES, they showed off a wireless charging bowl. The concept for which is awesome. OK, that I would be OK with wireless crap. If all I had to do at the end of the day is like, shed your watch, drop your earphones in, drop your phone in. I get up in the morning and everything is wirelessly charged. It's slow charges. So my battery doesn't heat up and I work like it's awesome. And it's amazing. That would be great. And maybe that's the future we're heading towards. And maybe you have to take these steps in order to get enough mass appeal for these wireless devices that you can get the economies of scale that are associated with shrinking the batteries and shrinking the electronics and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Maybe we're heading towards that. But it is a very frustrating stepping stone. And I personally would still use my iPhone 6S, although I'm saying this without having used the 7. They say the camera is amazing. I probably will still use my iPhone 6S if I need to use an iOS device there. That's my two cents. I'm not going to buy a full gamut of new headphone things because I use full headphones and earbuds with my phone. So, OK, that's not going to happen. Well, I want I wanted again. I'm going to need a million of them. And like they're probably not cheap. I don't remember how much they cost, but I'm sure we'll see cheaper ones after the fact. Someone was someone said 40 bucks in the Twitch chat, but I don't think that's right. I've I think 40 bucks wasn't that for the Belkin USB-C to dual USB-C that amount. Have you seen that? So Belkin has an adapter already or not USB-C DERP lightning that just splits it. But it's like on a short little cable and then it's a huge box so you'd be able to plug in a headphone and microphone thing. There you go. Oh Lordy. But it also doesn't break to three point five. And that's forty dollars. Yeah. And that will that's to address the other issue. I mean, I haven't even talked about that. Now you can't charge your phone and use headphones at the same time unless you're using wireless. That's a big problem for me, which is a huge problem for any mobile gamer. I mean, Apple's keynote. Blah, blah, blah. We are the biggest mobile gaming platform. Blah, blah, blah, blah. You can only game for a few hours on an iPhone before it runs out of battery. Ha ha ha ha. Good luck listening to your headphones so you don't have to be that jerk on the bus that's got fucking clash of clans. I said freaking, by the way, sort of slipped out. Kind of funny. I don't swear on the show. Kids at home don't repeat what you heard here. I mean, you know, clash of clans on the bus making everyone around you mad. Yeah, it's super ridiculous. And like, obviously you can just mute it or whatever, but that's lame. Yeah, that's stupid. Why would you degrade the experience? No, a new device should never degrade the experience. What I'm expecting is that I kind of think someone's going to come out with a case that has extra ports built in. I'm not kidding. So you're just going to have to buy a bigger phone, essentially. Our new device is magical. It's revolutionary. It's three times as big with all the stupid adapters that you have bolted onto it. But like, having it slimline in a case as slim as it can get and just making your phone taller, essentially, is probably the most elegant solution that they're going to be able to do. So the case will plug into the bottom of your phone. That's like saying the most elegant way to put a tutu on a hippo. Yeah, well, there is a most elegant way to put a tutu on a hippo. There is. I'm sure there is. But who cares? Yeah. I would be more interested in this, though. I would rather use the phone if it got to a split out box in an external case thing. And that went into like dual USB. Or why do I keep saying USB? Dual lightning and a 3.5. It is technically USB, so. That would be wicked. Alright. Dual lightning and a 3.5. I would be very happy. So there's a new camera, larger aperture, optical image stabilization. The iPhone 7 actually gets an additional telephoto lens on the back that works like a built-in zoom feature. Longer battery life. Like apparently very substantially they haven't specified the capacity yet. I guess we'll just have to wait for the iFixit teardown. I don't know why they're so like, teeheehee, about all this stuff. We're going to figure it out eventually anyway. The front facing camera is now 7 megapixels and includes auto image stabilization, which is not the same as optical image stabilization. So we'll find out exactly what that means. And they have finally done away with the 16 gig capacity. And they have a glossy jet black that will look great in photos. And we'll validate once and for all why Luke and I have to spend so much time being angry at manufacturers for making glossy black things. And it will be because the iPhone 7 will sell better in that color than anything else, because Apple made it more exclusive by making it only available in the higher capacities. So people are going to want to show off that they have a ball in one. They're going to get a glossy jet black one. And we are going to have to continue to be mad that our wireless routers are glossy black plastic and look stupid after four seconds because you have the audacity to plug a cable into them. Or just let dust sit on them. That too. Glossy things just look terrible unless you literally just cleaned it. So we asked on Twitter if people wanted to suggest what we should talk about on Wanshow about the iPhone 7. I completely forgot to look at this, but I'm pretty sure that we talked about most of them. Yeah. One of the things that I really don't like about the wireless earpods is that they look like earrings. Have you seen that? Yeah, yeah, I saw them. I think they look ridiculous. They do. Yeah. Like most wireless headphones, they just wrap around. They're going to turn into a status symbol. They're going to be like the original white earpods. Or no, they weren't called earpods. Whatever. I don't care. White earphones. I don't know, man. We'll see. We will see. We'll see. Some celebrity is going to wear them. Yeah. But then you look at like Bluetooth things. Yeah. Those always kind of made you look sort of like a douche. Yeah, they make you look like a douche. And these will make you look like a douche unless you're like cool. And then they will make you look like a douche. Whatever. Oh, man. Most people really just asked for the headphone jack removal controversy. So... Yeah. Yeah. That's fairly obvious. Robert Preston says, I'm an easy man to make happy. I want a phone that makes calls and doesn't explode. Yep. I like that. Well, you have to shop fairly carefully these days. Not exploding is an exclusive feature. All right. So yeah, talk about waterproof. Okay. So our summary notes were fine. Excellent. Good. I'm happy with the waterproof improvements. It's expensive, by the way. I've been a big... Wow. I've been a big proponent of that for a while. You don't bing anything. I just... It got caught in my nasal because I'm sick right now. All right. The iWatch 2 is here. Hooray. You're going to review it? I probably will. I'll probably end up just saying I think it's stupid again. It starts at 3... Excuse me. $370 US dollars, has GPS, boasts a brighter display. So basically they addressed everything that I don't care about. It's like more waterproof now. I don't know how many people's Apple Watches are dying in the water. It's like a MSRP for a GTX 1070. Yeah. Not that you can buy them at that price. You could get a better video card than you probably have if you didn't buy an Apple Watch. I have a rant on that coming. There's a new Mario game for iOS. The original article here is from Kotaku. Coming on Android later. Yep. So there you go. Mario is on a phone, which is exciting because if you wanted to play Mario on your phone, then that will excite you. I do. I mean, it would be nice to have better quality platformers on mobile, so that's cool. It'll offer three distinct modes. So there's challenge courses to complete. There's second mode, which is challenging play data of other people's courses. And then you can create your own Mushroom Kingdom using coins collected by playing the first two modes. One thing that drives me insane about this. Where's the actual topic? It'll be free to download with a set purchase price. What? What does that even mean? And that's not like a weird quote that Colton did. That's exactly the quote. In quotations. That's what the guy said. So like, I don't know. Because I read, I read it'll be free to download, but with a set purchase price. And was like, wow, Colton, way to go. Clicked through and was like, oh, actually, yes. Good job, Colton. More literally this time. What does that even mean? Okay. You claim to see this coming. I did not. Really? Hit me. VR adoption among Steam users has crashed to a halt. Original article here is from VentureBeat. VR is an extremely difficult thing to properly explain the experience and feeling of without having the person actually do it. Apparently it means it is not free. You pay. There are no microtransactions. You can download it for free, but you have to pay to unlock it. That's super dumb. Yeah. So there you go. Okay. Sure. That's super dumb. Yeah, it was apparently a bad translation. Okay. That makes sense. Okay. So why? Yes. It's extremely, it's hard to translate because it's an experience. It's like telling someone that a roller coaster was cool, who's never been on a roller coaster or anything that moves quickly or inflicted G-Force on them at all before. Yeah, you go around the corner and it pulls your body and stuff and the person's like, what? It doesn't translate very well. Every single person I've described VR to, no matter how excited and how intricate I made the description, once they try it, completely different conversations. They're pretty deadpan and like, yeah, sure, whatever, dude. Then they try it. They're like, whoa, I want one. Every single time. So here is sort of where I didn't see this coming because I agree with everything you just said. Okay. But what I thought was that people would do that. People would show their friends and they'd be like, whoa, I want one. Yes. So what you're saying is that the people who play VR games don't have friends. Well, there's a combination of things. That's possibly true. I mean, I play VR. I don't have friends. That's possibly true to a certain degree. One thing that I was pushing for quite a while and you probably know this is that I've wanted best buys and stuff like brick and mortar stores. I mean, they're working on that. Yeah, but not really. Yeah, it takes time. And it's not really that great yet. And I've heard of a couple small brick and mortar stores having them with the Rift, which is not the experience that I want people trying. Right. And the most popular VR experience right now is with the damn Gear VR. The Gear VR is awful. Exactly. So people are getting this Gear VR for free, throwing it on and then going, why the heck, censoring myself a little bit there, would I ever spend all that money? A thousand dollars for like that but better because it isn't that but better. It's not that at all. Completely different categories of things. Right. But they're calling it the same thing. And Samsung is all, oh, yeah. And their radio advertisements are like, oh, yeah, today I was running around with dinosaurs and then I was like fighting zombies and stuff. And so they try to make it the same amount of exciting and they describe it in the exact same way that people are describing the high end headsets. Then people are trying the Gear VRs and then going, why the hell would I ever buy that nicer one? So people are not exposed to it in a direct hands on way. Right. They are exposed to shitty versions of it in a direct hands on way. And the community that has them is very small and then they're really expensive. Right. And the well informed community also knows that these are the first version. There's probably follow up versions coming relatively quickly that will be considerably better and that's going to be happening for a while. So like it's this huge, I totally saw this coming. That's why that's a big reason why I was worried about even making the riff review so late because I knew the hype train was already crashing so hard. All right. So basically the numbers are here. According to a survey of customers that use steam conducted by Valve, the number of new HTC Vive owners on steam only grew by point three percent in July and remained flat in August. Oculus saw similar results of point three percent in July and point one percent in August. July and August are important because they are the first months where both HTC and Oculus are shipping orders when they receive them. Wow. That's tough. Yeah. All right. Let me see if we've got anything else that's really interesting here. I would be interested in seeing some other statistics on that steam thing. Like the percentage of computers that can actually perform properly with those VR headsets. How many of those people are buying headsets? Right. Because a huge amount of the steam hardware survey is like not even necessarily dedicated GPU laptops. That's true. And like your mom's HP that was 300 bucks and stuff like that. So a lot of these things, VR headsets aren't even remotely in the horizon for them and it doesn't apply. So the percentage sounds lower than it probably should. So this made me mad and then I got over it. Google Chrome to disallow backspace as the back button. See, I'm going to press backspace and it's not going to do anything. Mind you, this is the first page I loaded in this tab, so it probably wouldn't have done anything anyway. But I'll demonstrate again. I am pressing C. Oh, look at that. Alt left arrow. Press alt left arrow to go back. Press alt left arrow. All right. All right, Chrome. There you go. So the idea is to keep people from losing all their work by accidentally trying to backspace something and then losing a web form, which I personally don't really have a lot of difficulty with. Apparently, this is really old and this is old. Not not this VR thing. Oh, well, whatever. I know they've been rolling it out slowly. Oh, it hit me this week. OK. And I hadn't heard about it and it made me mad. You use that? That's all I use backspace to go. Yeah, yeah, I don't all the time. I don't. Well, I just do with my mouse. Whatever. Which will still work. I do it with both. Get rekt. Sometimes I touch the little back button on the touch screen. Yeah, that's right. Whoa. Yeah, you're you're like a rebel triangle. Yeah. Um. What? Yeah, I kind of sure. All right. No, I'll I'll I'll do it. I'll bite. I'll bite on this one. OK. Turing phone cadenza will apparently feature dual Snapdragon 830s with a 60 megapixel quad rear camera triplet lens. Why would you have quad rear cameras? So IMAX 6K is the resolution they're calling that dual front cameras, 20 megapixels, 12 gigs of RAM, one terabyte of storage. Swordfish OS with deep learning. What is this? A five point eight inch 1440 by 2560 display. So Turing Robotics has revealed plans for the future of the Turing phone should be a leading edge program to realize the next generation of mobile devices. One gigabit per second, 60 gigahertz, Y gig support. I mean, what are they planning? Saying the phone will be released sometime in 2017. Quad nano SIM support. I mean, this basically just sounds like someone going on PC parts picker and just like picking all the most expensive stuff that totally won't work together and just put it in a cart. Graphene oxide composite bodywork with liquid metal 2.0 structural frame. It's only going to have a 2400 milliamp hour. Oh, 2400 milliamp hours. Graphene super capacitor battery. So like basically like instant charging and a 1600 milliamp hour lithium hydrogen hydrogen fuel cell. And it's really funny because our next topic is Half Life 3 confirmed, which is almost like that phone is like Half Life 3 confirmed. Why is this in here? What is this? We're almost at the back to the future date. We're even closer to the Star Wars tipping point. The what? On May 13th, the Phantom Menace will have come out closer to Return of the Jedi than to the present. It's weird how I'm consistently surprised by the passage of time when it's literally the most predictable thing in the universe. You know, a long time ago should have plus four more decades added into the re-releases. What? Oh, hold on a second. Half Life, Half Life episode 2. It's been that many days, September 10th, 2016. So that's the oh, I see. OK. Wow. Has it really was it? Yeah, it was 10 years. Has it really been 10 years since Half Life episode 2? Holy crap. I feel old. And we're old. Wow. Speaking of VR things, because someone lit the fire. Oculus Touch controller price was leaked on Media Markt for 200 euros. Oh, cool. Which is probably going to be 200 US dollars as well because. Because. Ha. Take that, Europeans. You're not an American, so you get wrecked by pricing, apparently. Sorry. We're not Americans either. So before anyone forgets that point. We just like talking about Trump because it's funny. And it really impacts us a lot because we live really close and we're a really small population. Yeah. I mean, what if he makes us pay for a wall? That is like a really long border. It is. All right. So thank you for tuning into the WAN Show. We will see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. We can employ all the oil rigors that way. Could be good. What if you made the wall out of solar panels? And then it became a profit venture. We could export the power to the States. So you're saying solar freaking walls. Yeah. Solar freaking walls. I'm still out on this shit. So good. So good. Road wall. Road wall. Would the top of the wall be a road? Like, would you travel along the border on the wall road? Road wall? Okay.