 Alright, we should be live now. As many people in the Twitch chat have noticed, Linus is not here. As some of you might notice in the next few seconds, we are early. I'm super stoked because we're early. It is 428. Our start time is 430. So I'm not really going to get into any super awesome topics right away. I just wanted to make sure that I was exactly 2 minutes early because we're usually exactly anywhere between 0 to 15,000 minutes late. So I just really actually wanted to be early this time. Linus is in Hawaii for undisclosed reasons that many of you have already figured out, but I'm not going to say anything because I'm not sure if I'm allowed. This here is my brother, ColdSC on the tweet tweets. He is a StarCraftcaster aficionado. Aficionado? Sure. Amateur StarCraftcaster. Amateur StarCraftcaster. And you can look him up on Twitter, like I said, at ColdSC. For this stream, the Twitter blitzes will be controlled by my Twitter. So if you want to tweet in for any Twitter blitz that I call out, I would tweet at SlickPC for now. I'm sure next week when Linus is back, we'll go back to Linus' Twitter, but right now it's a lot easier for me to manage if it's my Twitter. There will also be a after party. People have been looking for an after party for a while. The after party will be myself and my brother. It's going to take us a little bit because we're going to race over to my house before we actually do the after party. So there will be a little bit of a time gap, but we're going to leave immediately after the stream and start immediately when we get to my house and everything is already set up. So it should be pretty quick. I'm guessing about 10, 15 minutes. So there will be an after party. That's the Twitter you should be using. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Now we're going to roll right into it. So for the topic call outs I have for this week, Valve has some teasers for Living Room Something in 2014. They're not releasing a lot of other information about it. And Nintendo legend Hiroshi Yamauchi has passed away, which is super depressing, but I'm going to pass it on to some less depressing news. Cyanogen mod raises $7 million. They're going to be doing some really interesting things. We'll delve into that and Dota 2 land support. Land support. Land support is awesome. Something we've been missing in gaming. You know, glad someone's finally changing and saying no, you can still do that. You know, big companies have tried to set a precedence that you can't do that. And it's not true as we're seeing. So Dota 2 will be offering land support. We'll talk about that as well. We went from like negative EA news every week and now we're transitioning into like positive Valve news every week. Because last week they had the family and friends sharing. And then this week they have like there's something coming and whenever there's something coming from Valve, it's always epic. So we're going to roll into the intro which will work this week. And we're back. I know that had lioness in the intro, but we didn't find that out. We didn't feel like recreating all the assets for this show apparently. So that's what we have. The first topic that I want to jump into is Netflix CEO if I can get you to bring this up on your screen, we'll switch to your screen. So Netflix not CEO sorry, Netflix chief content officer, Ted Sarandos has said that bandwidth caps in Canada are basically a human rights violation. So as you can see on this website here, it is almost a human rights violation what they're charging for internet access in Canada. And what he's referring to is low broadband caps in place at Canadian ISPs that started around 15 gigabytes. Now the first thing I noticed when reading this article was like, yeah, okay, that's horrible. I've dealt with bandwidth caps in Canada before I've dealt with slow internet in Canada before. I've dealt with crappy terrible pricing for internet in Canada before. But what almost needs to get more attention is like, yeah, Canada is a bad situation right now. But look at Australia. I have a bunch of mods that I talk to constantly and a bunch of forum members that I talked to quite consistently from Straya as they say it's apostrophe capital S Trey, it's freaking awesome. I love it. But their internet is so much worse right now. It is and there's even some places in like the UK where I've talked to people and they have even worse situations than us. So while I'm happy that the Netflix Chief Content Officer is pointing out that it's kind of crap in Canada, it's kind of crap in a lot of places. Do you have any idea what Netflix's presence is in Australia? No, they are they as they are they a service there? That's how they have to fake American IP addresses like some Canadians do. Well, okay, because it's a service here, but it's craptastic. Are you wondering like how how possibly craptastic it is or if it even exists in Australia? Because I know because of copyright laws and different things that we have in Canada to protect protect Canadian artists, same thing with the radio, you have to have so much content and yada yada yada. There we go watching the Twitch chat. Apparently they do have it but it's crap. That's really similar to Canada. Like we don't have a lot of content and it's not very high quality. Like a lot of times the only streams you can properly get are low quality streams because Netflix is automatically adapting to try and figure out how good your picture can be. So a lot of really commonly Canadians will VPN or some other form VPN down to the states and then watch their Netflix through VPN so they can get access to all this increased amount of content. Someone just said we don't have it. I have other people saying they do have it. Not entirely sure. But anyways, it's it's it's just kind of bad everywhere and this is interesting because for the longest time everyone has praised the internet for being this crazy crazy thing. But now that it's been around for a long time, ISPs got really complacent sitting on all that praise and have done nothing. Really. A lot of ISPs are still just laying copper. Just like yeah, we don't need fiber. No one cares. Do do do do do. And now everyone's like hey, listen. Everything is going to the internet though. That's another thing. You know, we're talking we're talking about Netflix. It's now what you watch on TV. Yeah, it's how you use your phone. It's how you use, you know, your tablet if you choose to have one. We have a laptop on each of our laps. You know, internet is going to be the medium for everything from VoIP to just general surfing to everything we do nowadays. So that bandwidth has to increase. And people are even thinking about like Nvidia is setting up those things so you can stream games down. Like that's insane. That's gonna take so much bandwidth. Every new technology that comes out seems to be internet connected. So that's a really good point. Even in this room, we each have a phone. We each have a laptop and there's a stream PC. Yeah. Holy crap. There's another laptop over there. Like there's just so much stuff and in every room. We're not going to put anything past the door. No, and this is a tiny room. Like we barely even fit in this room. Like you guys have seen sometimes if I have to leave the scene, I like climb over the back of the couch and like ninja jump across so that I can actually get out of the room, which is kind of absurd. So we just wanted to bring that up. Netflix does recognize that things suck and they are pointing it out. I do appreciate that. For them though, who else in a power position has done something like that? Yeah, because it is ridiculous. It is it is terrible. And as you know, to repeat what you said, it's bad in Canada, it's bad in other places. But at least it's getting a spotlight somewhere by someone who's in a power position for sure. And it's it's surprising that he's willing to call out an entire country's worth of companies. It's like you all suck. Yes. It's yeah, it's interesting. Now we're going to jump down to cyanogen, which has raised $7 million from capital investment recently from benchmark capital and Redpoint ventures. They've raised $7 million. Sanogen is an interesting little beast because there's a huge amount of registered users that are on it. I don't remember the exact number. It's like 8 million. It's something crazy. I think I think it's I think it's 8 million registered users. And that's the only the people that are clicking the button saying that they share the information. Yeah, to share the information I never click in my life. Exactly. That might take a kilobyte of bandwidth that I want because I have some of the world's worst internet. So I need to keep that completely on lockdown. Yeah, so sorry. I'm just one of those people who would not click or would sorry would unclick that button. I'm one of those guys. I would say it's not even unclicking it. You have to go and select it, which is a large part of the reason why it's not that many. I would never go find it for one. And for two, I would never select it just because I'm always really scared. But what other information that's sharing, right? So personally, I care about that. The only program that I do like share my usage data is Firefox. That's because I've been running their pre alpha program for well, now that you said that, just to not jump ahead of you a little bit. But and we'll talk about my story of this morning. Yeah, a little bit later. But I was on Sanogen mod today and it reminded me of Firefox because I know you like to run nightly. Yeah. And there's Aurora and there's a couple other versions. I actually just I'm boring. I just run the stock. But Sanogen mod does the same thing. They have completely unstable versions and they and they rate them. There's four actual ratings. And so you can jump into different versions, which completely reminded me of Firefox was we're Yeah, for big fan of four ratings, the normal one beta Aurora and nightly. Right? That's, that's really interesting. So actually, to get into your story, one of the big reasons why people are thinking Sanogen doesn't have more users like way more users is their extremely complicated install process, which can be around 23 steps. Now, when I brought the idea of this topic up to Richard, my brother at cool, they see on Twitter for the new viewers. He was like, Oh, that's cool. I should install on my phone. I was like, Yes, that's awesome. So he goes to install on his phone this morning. And well, I spent two hours trying to figure out maybe not quite two hours. There's some YouTube in there and things like that. But I spent a decent amount of time this morning trying to get it to work. And I had a cable that you actually brought me. Yeah. extremely long ribbon cable, which is pretty cool. Yeah, ribbon USB cable like super long from Korea that I brought back. So I thought it'd be cool. Was having some connection issues between the phone and the and the PC and realized eventually that you know, it could be my cable. So I swapped out the cable. Oh, it's working. That's great. Right. So went into it. I was using a program called Odin, which it seems like all the YouTuber guys have been using. I went to first you have to root your phone before you can even do any sort of mod. So I went to root it program crashes, you know, Windows says, Would you like to send this error? Would you like to close the program? So I said close it. Now I'm locked into a boot loop, which terrified me because for my work, I have to use my phone constantly. It's a little bit scared. Finally figured out how I could unboot loop it through the Odin mod. So I did that. That was successful. But then again, when I tried to root it again, the whole program crashes. I spent a little bit of time on Google. Like I mean, I was running out of time by this point. I had to head over here. But I spent a little bit time on Google. It seems to be a problem for a lot of people that while you're halfway through the whole program, it doesn't it's not an error like, oh, this didn't work. It's it's a Windows whole program flatline. That's crazy. And like, that would even add more to that statistic of users that haven't pressed the button and have pressed the button. So there's an insane amount of people that want to use Cyanogen that are using Cyanogen that are using Cyanogen but aren't enabling their sharing thing. They have a huge, huge power behind them. So they want to become the third biggest phone OS out there. So they want to be behind iOS, they want to be behind Android, and they want to have their own little thing. Now this isn't saying that they're creating their own operating system from scratch. They're building on top of the base Android layer. But what they want to do is create the usability experience that they would want to have personally. So Steve Condick is the like the big guy behind Cyanogen and he wants to create experience that he would want. He's quoted saying some pretty awesome stuff. So there's a lot you can do whenever you listen to the users on what they want. That's one of his biggest quotes, which is like, boom, Microsoft is pouring billions of dollars into everything because they have billions of dollars worth of revenue, but they're pouring tons of money, I don't know exactly how much, into Windows phone and Windows phone is not catching on. Cyanogen is catching on. Interesting little disconnect there. It's probably because Cyanogen is actually paying a ton of attention to their users and doing exactly what their users want. It's just, it's so interesting. They already have a hardware partner and that hardware partner has been like 99.9% leaked. If you, it's pretty easy to read into it. He says he's going to be at the Oppo event, which like, probably event. Yeah, like it's probably going to happen. Just for high fives. No. Hey guys, what's up? We're a possible hardware partnership and you like posted this video on your website and stuff. High five. Um, so it's probably going to be them. It's pretty awesome. Now you might be wondering how did they expect to make money? Because if there's an investment of $7 million, they have to make money somehow. Now he has said, um, he has said, the mobile devices out there, they're not just, they're, they're just not meant for anybody to use. That's a direct quote from him. And then he carries on from that to say they're essentially mobile cash registers. You want to help you get stuff done and use these things to their fullest potential. So how cool does that sound? That sounds awesome. All of his quotes are so legit. And then he goes on to say, no comment has been made on how we will make money. If, but if you're a default, if you're a default OS on a device and you have 50 million users, there's a lot of ways to make money. Now, the only thing I want to throw it in there, I, I can't say I disagree with that. It makes a lot of sense. But what about Reddit? Reddit loses money. That's what we were talking about. That's a good point. So Reddit, Reddit bleeds money all the time. But as a phone OS, like true, I totally understand. You can't, it's not an orange and an orange. It's, but it's just, you don't need to figure out a path because Reddit is a decent example. Probably not. I'm probably gonna get flamed in the comments, but it's a decent example of a situation where they are heavily used. Like they call themselves the front page of the internet. They basically are. They are, you know, um, but they're losing money, right? It's just, it's just, but Reddit is a very difficult platform to monetize that once they do, once they hopefully do, they will make giant mountains of planet size piles of cash because they have the biggest user base ever. But it's true with an OS, like your store, you could have promoted items in your store, which you can, if you have 50 million users, you can rake in money with that. You can take a cut out of your store. You can do like, you can do other things instead of like destroying your user audience by forcing ads on their face all the time. Like you don't have to do that. You can do things that are a lot, a lot less aggressive and you don't have to like hurt your viewer audience. Um, two things that I want to call it right away. I can tweet these out right now just so you guys can get them because I don't necessarily want to put them on stream. One of them is a video that was released by them and the audio on it's just horrible. So I don't want to make all of your ears bleed. Um, but I'm going to tweet out two things so you can watch it yourself. But like I said, be careful with that video because it is a little bit crazy in the audio there when he's talking, it's fine. And then it cuts away from him talking. It gets a little bit nuts. There's also a Reddit AMA about everything that's going on and that AMA has stuff in it that's unreleased anywhere else. So I would actually highly recommend reading through that AMA. Just find the original poster's name in blue and then control F for it and just bounce all of his answers. That's a really easy way to go through AMA's if you haven't done that before. Um, one of the biggest things they're working on, which would help solve your problem hopefully is at one of the biggest and foremost foremost things that they're working on is a one click installer. So that's just kind of awesome because they have some screenshots out for it. And it's a really difficult process like you were talking about. It's everyone everyone says it is and there's just so many parts where it can fail takes so many different things to work. There's so many different devices and even finding the firmwares, things like that. It was it was uh and I I started with an iPhone. I considered my iPhone useless without it being jailbroken. Like I've been and I know jailbreak and rooting it is different. Of course it is. We understand that. But you've been down that general. Exactly. The general road you know it's it wasn't my first kick at it you know and uh and I did have a limited time frame limited time frame but it was difficult. It wasn't a fun experience and having a one click installer a wizard installer uh would be so much easier. Yeah and like like if I tried to get Cyanogen wants to be mainstream now. So if we handed a phone right now to mom. It was like hey mom it's still Cyanogen. No. If that phone still works in 20 minutes or has been touched one of the two. Yes. It either wouldn't have been touched or totally won't work. I'm gonna go with the wouldn't have been touched part. Um but like it's it's not gonna happen. My mom is fairly technical for the average mom. Sorry I'm not trying to stereotype but it's true. She's quite technical. She plays Starcraft which is awesome. Um so I made text last night. How do I build an orbital? How do I build an orbital? Command. Shmer. Um that's awesome. But like it it just wouldn't happen. It's quite an advanced process. But if that one click installer comes out and we're able to hand a phone to mom and say install Cyanogen. She googles them gets their one click installer clicks the button and it's done. There you go. There's a whole bunch more users right there. So that user count will explode. And I think if they have a one click installer that actually works on everything and they were able to release this out and they start actually tracking the amount of people that have they have on their OS properly instead of just having the share information button. Yeah. Their user count will blow up. Like this is huge. 2014 is gonna be such a crazy year for phones but not in my opinion necessarily because of hardware. That's true. Well the trend is shifting. Every iPhone that comes out they're selling less of it. Yeah. You know that that seems to be the trend and also Apple's doing things that proportionally less. Yes and it's also this is going on to a completely different rant. Maybe we'll save it for the after show or or later something like that. But also everything that Steve Jobs did was successful and everything he said not to do was not successful. They are now doing what he said not to do. So we'll see how it works out. That's you know we could dive into that topic for the rest of the show if we wanted to. But it's you know like the 5C is what I'm referring to. Yeah. He said they would never release a budget iPhone. They also said he would never release a mini tablet. I don't remember exactly said like under a certain size. The iPad mini is an exact contradiction to that. So we'll see how it works. You know we'll see how it works and we'll see how the 5C does. I know it's slated at so we're completely jumped away from size. I know it's slated about a hundred dollar price which is not bad. Basically it's a five an iPhone 5 with a colorful back that you're going to not see once you buy a case. Or if you get their mesh case it can be like a polka dot color full back that doesn't protect your phone. I'm excited to get into one of our topics later on which we might actually have time for now. Did you put the vulnerabilities thing in the document? If not it's probably fine. I did not put the links although I can we can keep talking I can navigate there. You work on that and then we'll switch to your screen when we can. So there's been a whole bunch of security problems with iOS 7 already. One of the easiest things is you can if you're on the lock screen you can pull up something I don't remember the name of. Do you remember the name of it? That is actually in the dock. That's probably the only thing I have to do in the dock. That works for me. But it's called control center. So you pull up the Apple control center and then you're able to do minor things to your phone from there so you can access the camera? Yes you can access well actually what you do is you open the calculator and then you hold the power button down and then you hit cancel and then that allows you to see the multitasking menu. From the multitasking menu you can open the camera which is pretty well on all phones Android phones as well. If you open the camera from a shortcut or something like that it's a stripped down version. This is not a stripped down version. You can go into the gallery you can see all the pictures. You can then say I want to email this picture. You can delete the picture from the email. You can delete the signature. You can email whoever you want. You can see their whole contact list. You can go to any contact see all the details for those contacts. So basically like you could email out all the contacts. You could or take them all. You could email out to yourself or some third party that should not get these things all the pictures or you could go to email a picture and delete the picture and then impersonate that person. So it's not very good right now. Apple is aware of this and there's a fairly easy fix. If you go into your iPhone you can disable that menu pull up and then that's fine. You're fine at that point. It's no longer a security violation. So if you have an iPhone I would highly recommend going and disabling that right now and Apple will fix it later. I'm not too worried about this but for the people that don't know it's actually kind of a problem because if you don't know and you leave it on and someone gets to your phone it's super easy for them to break into your phone which is kind of unfortunate. That might even be all we have to cover for that. There were some other security issues though wasn't there? There was the battery life issue. I was reading on Twitter today that there's a lot of issues with the battery life. We looked up apparently it is an issue. So some users not all users it's not a widespread thing but some users are experiencing extreme battery drain. I've also read that even another select group of users once their battery hits 20% their phone just turns off. It says out of battery out of power and turns off whenever it's at 20%. So that's a pretty frustrating. It's kind of crazy because some of these things are like how didn't QA not pick that up? Like the button thing on the main menu. That's one of the first things you ever try to do with security violations is what menu can I get to? Okay now I'm here. What are all the different functions I could possibly do that might give me higher rights access to anything? Like how that's like step one and two of testing security violations for software. How did you not catch that? That one's a little bit crazy. The battery thing maybe they should have tested on more phones or maybe they should have tested on used phones a little bit because I'm wondering if this is maybe a used phone issue. Maybe. Or like just older models. Yeah I didn't read what actual models it just said those upgrading which I believe the 4S the 4 as far as I know can get iOS 7. I imagine the 3GS can't but phones from Apple should be able to. And that's quite old at that point. Very old. So you're getting to a point where it might not even be like good to upgrade your phone at that point because you're just like throwing way too much stuff at this old piece of hardware which is probably just not a good idea. To jump back to Cyanogenmod. Sorry one quick second. They're also planning on rebranding themselves. Now this is kind of a big deal in my mind because when you're a huge group like this and you already have established your name it's interesting to rename. Yeah. Now one of the advantages that they have is they're a mobile company. So if they rename themselves they'll be all over mobile news which is like one of the biggest news buzzy things there is right now. Absolutely. So even if they have to rename themselves they're probably fine. So it's not probably not that big of a deal but I hope they don't rename themselves to something completely off the wall and different. What I hope that they do personally which I don't know there might be some other company named this or something but I hope they just go with like Cyanogen or something so that it's close and still super recognizable for the people that are following it right now and not scary because Cyanogenmod. If you say that to someone who's not super techie that kind of sounds scary. Sounds hardcore. Yeah it's hardcore. Even if you are techie it sounds hardcore. Yeah it's like sweet Cyanogenmod. Yeah. But like Cyanogen doesn't sound hardcore or aggressive but still references to their previous name. So personally or Cyanos. Wait is that what they're actually naming it? I heard that rumor. I didn't want to because I think that's a rumor but he could be very well correct. Is that Apple fanboy? That's funny coming from Apple fanboy. But I heard that. I did see that on the internets today but I have no idea if there's a shred of truth to that or not. Okay I haven't seen any updates about that but Cyanos would be perfect because then you still have Cyanos and you just add an S on it and it's still very recognizable. Easy to say. It's just kind of awesome. So hopefully they go with that. I just want it to still be recognizable. Yeah. That's all I really want it to be. I see quite a few people asking who this is. This is my brother also known as ColdSC. He is a StarCraft caster and he is joining us today in lieu of Linus being in Hawaii because Linus has to be in Hawaii. I don't even really know what else to say about that. I'm going to conference with my mods and try and get them to line up quickly because anyone who was wondering the guest for this week will be the mods. So the topics we will have for the mods are all focused around the forum. There's a whole bunch of leaks that I'm going to drop about the forum that Linus wasn't necessarily super happy about but Linus isn't here this week and I'm the one that works on the forum along with my mod team and Mr. Wizard and Catman which no one's necessarily heard of as being part of the team but will bring in his contribution to the forum in that topic as well. That will start very soon. Hopefully everyone's here. I've notified them that we're going live soon. And just a bunch of other stuff that's going to be happening on the forum in the few months coming up here. Hopefully faster than I'm hoping for but it could take a little while for all of them. So they're all in very early stages right now but they're working. Leading up until now all the stuff that I was going to release is not working. Don't buy the widgets! Stop it! Don't buy the widgets! Those of you that know what I'm talking about. Screw you! Don't buy the dang widgets. Okay so I'm going to call the mod team a little bit early just because we've pretty much finished up. Do you have any other comments about Cyanogen or iPhone? I'm sure we'll jump back to it. Well probably. Yeah it's not surprising at all. So headphones on. Calling in. Don't buy gift cards or widgets! Okay. Calling everybody. We'll see who's all actually here. Hello hello about the widget. Oh my god. Okay. Who's connecting? We've got Dave. We've got Chris. We've got Dim. Is that true? Hello hello. So the guy who just said hello hello is Winspeed on the forum. Dave can you say hi? Hello. That's Dave with the smiley face on the forum which trolls the crap out of our forum search which is hilarious. If you search for members and type in Dave he's like the last one. That's probably what broke the forum search. Probably. It's all Dave's fault. It probably is all Dave's fault. So we are missing some people that will not show up. I think Wailer's here too. Yeah Wailer's here as well. Is Glenn here? It looks like Glenn's here. So it looks like we're missing Erdino and Mr. Wizard and Catman. So Mr. Wizard is the other admin on the forum. For admins there's Linus, myself and Mr. Wizard. And a lot of people are like who the heck is Mr. Wizard? Mr. Wizard is a buddy of mine that I went to school with that helps a ton with the deep deep back end of the forum. So installing heavy applications, managing the database, a lot of that kind of stuff is Mr. Wizard. And he is a core part of the reason why we have a forum at all. Then there's Winspeed who is also a core part of the reason why we have a forum at all because he has paid for them and managed our hosting traditionally. So for a while there the forum started at the very beginning when no one ever saw it. When Linus and I were planning on even possibly having a forum. I had a forum running PHP BB which no one else saw except for me. And then Linus was like, you saw it? He saw it, good point. Locally. Yeah. In person. And then Linus came around and was like we're gonna run V Bulletin. And that was terrible. That was horrible. But we did it. And Mr. Wizard helped a lot in getting that installed because it was next to impossible. And that ended up actually being in some ways a good thing because I found mods who can pretty much deal with any problem we will ever have because they managed to do anything at all in V Bulletin. So that's fairly good in that forum but then also terrible because it was horrible. What's up? We're just getting slammed with lag. I have the stream going. I don't see lag personally but there's a lot of... And we have some people saying there's no lag. Just a little concerned. Want to try to keep you guys happy. Lag. It's... Are we dropping anything? I don't think so. Sorry guys. I didn't mean to kind of throw a big stop sign. A lot of people are saying no lag. We might as well keep going. We're not dropping on our side. Yeah. Alright. Well we're gonna go for now because quite a few people say it's good. In its revenge, things at CPU usage. Definitely. It's all the CPU usage. Chris, how you going? So yeah. I'm alright. I don't know where to go from there. Wailer is a big part of the forum. He's the folding leader guy so if you have any questions about folding, go see him. Dim has been our ninja janitor for as long as I can remember. Dave was actually pretty much the first mod that I recruited. And how I recruited him was in the very very early days of VBolten. I didn't have any mods yet. And I like looked through a bunch of the people that had a good amount of posts and I was like he's a nice person. I'm gonna go with him. And then I picked him as my... It's gonna respawn them posts. And it ended up being great actually. And then Glen was also just like a super nice dude. He didn't have way too many posts and I got a little bit of flack for that when I first recruited Glen. When people were like oh my god I can't believe you picked a mod that didn't have that many posts man. And I was like dude it's not about post count. And he's turned out to also be a pretty epic mod and we just lost our call. Well, we're not lagging there yet. So I'm gonna go into topics. If you can jump, and we're still recording, if you can jump to the dock real quick. So the first one is HTTPS is now on the forum. So anyone that browses from a hotspot of some sort or a coffee shop or something like that, your login information and stuff like that is secure now. So that was a problem before. We don't have... There's not that many other tech sites that have this. But when we started getting people asking like hey I browsed the forum from school or I browsed the forum from a cafe and I'm worried about stuff like my login getting leaked, we decided to implement it. And there's also some other stuff coming in. Video's lagging. Getting a lot of comments on the lag. A lot of video lagging. Is b-rule around? B-rule I think is around. It's not lagging here. It's not lagging here. See there you go. Oh it is lagging here. A little bit of shattering. Is the audio still fine? If audio's still fine, we're just gonna keep powering through. So sorry about that guys, but we're just gonna keep powering through. So we have HTTPS now on the forum. And now another reason, what really spurred us to get it was the vulnerability on hotspots. But another reason why we had to get it and why we've been looking into getting it for a while, we just pushed it a little bit earlier because of the hotspot problems, was that we have now installed something called ip.nexus which is a part of the Envision Power Services suite which allows us to have a store. Now we can sell Linus Tech Tips merchandise through this, we can sell things that we've reviewed through this, and another thing that we can do is implement the classified section which we've been working on for a long time. And the classified section will allow users to BST, buy sell trade. You will be able to set up your own sales page basically, and we're gonna try and have a reputation thing built in where people can review sellers so they can be like, oh yeah it showed up on time, it was in great condition, blah blah blah blah blah. Five stars, whatever, we're gonna try and have some system like that in place, I'm not sure exactly how that'll work. But basically, buy sell trade is coming to the forum. How cool is that? And it will be encrypted. Buy sell trade for a bunch of tech guys. And a classified section. So a lot of websites have a buy sell trade forum section, but we want you to be able to actually set up what looks more like an ad page. So you can show off the product a little bit better and all that kind of stuff. So that... I just sold a case off Craigslist. Yeah. The experience could have been better. It could have. It wasn't terrible, but something like this would be an excellent way to do it. And we want to, yeah, and to add to that experience that you could have had, hopefully, if you sold it through our website, is there will hopefully be reputation system, so you won't be selling to some random dude. So reputation system goes both ways. The guy that's buying it from you, you can see his forum account. It's tying in directly with our forum. So you can see all of his previous posts. If he's a big troll, maybe don't sell to him. So then you wouldn't have to worry about that when you were buying off of or selling off of Craigslist. You can just get a glimpse into their characters. Yeah, exactly. And if you're like, ah, this isn't someone that I really want to trust to send me money. But once they get this thing or however you guys end up doing that, it's, yeah, it'll be better that way. Are we getting audio lag now? Nope, audio is fine. Okay, we're gonna keep trucking on. So classifieds is pretty awesome. And we've been working on classifieds in Nexus for a while, and it's finally installed and finally working. Now can I get you to bring up the image linked in that section in the dock? Boom, right there. And then maybe zoom in a wee bit. Nope, that should be fine, actually. So we have another little leak to come out. This will probably lag a little bit, but it's a static image. So it should probably be fine. So I'm going to switch to it now. And then hopefully, the video will catch up at some point, at least a little bit. And then you guys will be able to see it. I'm actually going to try and move this out of the way so people can see better. There we go. So the video will hopefully catch up soon. This is a still shot image of the theme that we're going to be using on the forum. I see a few people going, Whoa, yeah, this is the theme coming up. This is what I'm going to be calling the new line of tech tips day theme. We are also going to be working on a new line of tech tips night theme. And if I can push Katmand to do it, I'm going to try and have mirrors of these themes on mobile. So we'll have a day and night orange and gray and black theme on mobile as well. We've been asked we've been asked for this on the forum for a long time. Oh, sorry. We've been asked like people have wanted this for a long time, because we've had stock theme and we look just like a lot of other sites that are out there that have the stock IPS theme. So yeah, it's in my opinion looks fantastic. The banner image along the top, not the logo, but the image along the top will very likely change. That's just a filler image for now. But everything else is pretty much going to stay the same. Other than that will be very minor changes that you probably won't notice. I think you're saying it could be a dynamic as well. It could change constantly. Maybe it'll be like a slideshow change. But like every week and change a week. Sure. Yeah. And we might be doing that it might be like relevant to new products that are coming out. It might be relevant to certain brands. It might be relevant to whatever it's it's very simple to change. So I can change it on the fly. Did we get the call back? I think we did get the call back. Actually, I think there's some problems. I think we might have one or two guys here. But there's some problems. We got somebody I can hear somebody. Yeah, we're having some problems with the call. So sorry about that guys. And I think we might still be having some problems. Someone said day nine sent them here. That would be awesome. Although I doubt it. Because the day nine shirt. I've worn this shirt on stream so many times that he's never sent people before. Anyways for the day nine viewers this is ColdSC on Twitter. He does Starcast stuff so follow him if you want to see more stuff from him. And we are currently showing off the. Geez I just. I'm so. I'm so. I'm so. I'm so. I'm so. I'm so. I'm so. I'm so. I'm so. I'm so. I'm. This is the new people were actually asking if I stole your shirt. No, he actually got me this shirt for Christmas. So half the time this shirt, your shirt. Well, yeah, there's two of the two of our shirt if that was the part that people didn't understand. But yeah, I got the shirt because he bought two of the shirt and gave me one of them. So that was actually pretty awesome. It's one of my favorite shirts. People are saying day 9 that can't be true. I think it must be. Let's see for one quick second. I'm actually so stoked because we're both really really big fans. Huge. I turned into a 14 year old little girl at day nine. We uh, at PAX two years ago, we went to the Red Bull LAN and we got to meet day nine at the Red Bull LAN and that was probably one of the coolest experiences ever. Absolutely. If you haven't met day nine yet, he like, when I ever go out and meet like members of the community, I try to be as cool as he is and I never make it but I try as bad as I can, as hard as I can I mean. Because he's just the coolest dude ever. He's super chill and he will always make you feel invited and just generally just a good experience. Like you were describing that thing that he does when you walk up to people. Yeah, it's, it's um, I just always, I like to watch people's body language and someone even commented that I'm not moving much. It's cause I'm totally nervous right now and all of my casting, I don't have a camera so I love casting Starcraft, I love talking about Starcraft. No one is looking at me so it's kind of, you know, it's a little bit different but I'll try to start being a little more natural cause I'm like you, we're both hand talkers but now I'm scared so I'm kind of sitting here not moving much. But um, he would, when people would walk up to him, they had to kind of cross a gap and they would walk and you're kind of, when you, when you walk up, it's hard, it's hard to describe but I've always watched people's body language. It makes an awkward space. Yeah, you walk up and there's kind of that engagement. What Day 9 would do is he would step or Sean, we're not on first name basis but yes, Sean, Mr. Day 9, Sean Plot, would uh, he would, he would take a step to the right and then that person would kind of naturally and just, it's sat, it doesn't sound like much but you have to try it. It's something you have to try. It resets the floor. It just resets the angle, it resets the, the focus and uh, it really feels like he's engaging you and he's uh, he is my favourite celebrity period. Oh yeah, I would totally be down for that. I've, I've worn his shirts before, everyone's seen that kind of stuff. So you can check him out as I'm sure most of you know due to the fact that you were sent over here at I believe twitch.tv slash day9tv. Or I think you just go to day9tv, day9.tv. I always go from a link, I'm trying to remember right now. I actually just watched pretty well every episode of all his Hearthstone stuff. Um, which was really cool. All on YouTube unfortunately I wasn't able to see it live but I did watch it all on... Day9! How's it going? That's so cool! Damn! Okay, we have to keep like talking about stuff and stop fanboying over Day9 even though I just kind of want to sit here and fanboy over Day9. I'm gonna change colours. He's gonna completely wreck. Anyways, thanks for showing up Day9, that's actually freaking cool. There we go, day9.tv, you can get to his website there. Just totally legit guy and he's apparently in the chat. So there we go, yeah, that brings his website up and you can find the stream really really easily. My twitter picture, for those of you who are checking out my... You know what, okay I'm fine, I'm gonna, it's been on my screen for so long I'll show you anyways. My twitter picture is still day9 and I. That is one of my favourite pictures and it has been my picture since I met him at Red Bull Land. Not this Pax but the Pax before. Yep, so two Paxes ago basically. You know what, any actor could walk in the room and I really wouldn't care that much. Yeah, no. My little 14 year old girl heart is racing because Day9 said something. Okay, so I guess we're supposed to get on with the show now? I guess. I'm just watching the chat like a hawk. I'm trying to do the Starcraft thing. The... Sup son? Sup son. We can fusion core dance. Oh fusion core dance. You gotta, it's not, yeah you gotta, oh no. You gotta like wave a little bit. That's bad. Alright, we'll be okay. What was that? That was water. Ah, see on one of his streams he dropped chocolate milk into his pants and the stream had to go on. So we dropped water on the floor but the stream must go on. So the one last thing to bring up about the website that I can't show you guys really is a lot of different tech websites you'll notice once you go to the website you get a landing page that has recent videos. Well, what we're gonna have is recent videos that we have released and just recent news topics, recent like trending topics on the forum. We hope to have all that kind of stuff on a landing page at the very beginning and then from there you can navigate to the forum. So you guys will still be able to bookmark or put little widgets where you can get to the forum directly or have it redirect on your own end but we will have the home page eventually as a landing page instead of the forum. You're gonna be able to easily navigate there but that is probably the farthest thing away from being complete because we need to get some stylized stuff going on. So Mr. Wizard's got a lot of work to do because he's really good at PHP so we're gonna have him work on the PHP side of things and hopefully get all that done as soon as possible but like I said it is gonna take a while. Now this segment was supposed to take a lot longer but we were having some problems with lags and the call with our mods got completely killed so... Yeah, that's okay. I'm sorry mods but I guess I can't actually talk to you guys. Let's see if they've said anything in our little conversation. Doesn't look like it. Sorry guys if you want to hit up the mods on the forum there's quite a few of them it's really easy to find. It's like join. Works fine. Okay I'm gonna join back see if we can talk to them. Hello everybody. I'm still freaking out that day 9 said something. Can you guys hear them? I can't hear anything. I can't hear anything either and then it just closed again so it's actually not working on our end guys. Sorry about that. Can I mod day 9? I would be completely down to mod day 9 but I don't think I'm logged in under anything. Let's go... TwitchTV. I haven't seen him say anything. He might uh... Might not be here anymore or something. We're not really sure. He does do about a million things. He is a man that completely avoids sleep due to the fact that it is unproductive for esports. He is that kind of individual. He has more inner strength than day 9 white knight for esports. I can't I have no logins here to mod day 9 but on my channel I would and probably will but he probably won't show up there because I am small. Anyways but we're gonna jump down into more topics again sorry that we couldn't really get the mod team on here. We are having a lot of problems with our communications setup. It is very new and having some problems with our internet I think but we will make it through. My laptop is gonna die but I can fix that problem very quickly. Alright so the next topic if you can bring it up is damages that Hynex DRAM plant are actually quite serious. We talked about this last livestream and it wasn't really that big of a deal we thought at the time and in my opinion it's still not as big of a deal as say the hard drive problems we had not that long ago. The hard drive shortages were pretty drastic and it made hard drives cost an insane amount of money and for a long time there people were legitimately putting off builds because they didn't want to pay the ludicrous prices for hard drives at the time. I don't think that's quite gonna happen with RAM. I'm sure the price will go up but I just don't think it would be as monstrously insane as the hard drive prices were when all that was going on. So yeah it is definitely a problem but another thing that was pretty cool is they had a special Gemini architecture with the building so basically what happened was each one of the clean rooms and everything at different facilities operated independently. So the ones that were damaged were damaged and the ones that were completely left alone are fine. So not the whole plant is down. They need to they're shipping in a whole bunch of professionals and engineers and all this other kind of stuff to investigate the plant and figure out everything that's wrong and that'll probably take at least the next two months which they'll lose a huge amount of production so we'll see those RAM prices probably start to increase from there. If I can just jump in about fire because I have a little bit of a connection there. You're sporting on the shirt but it's to say that they're sending in guys to assess the damage that always sounds kind of hokey unless you understand like I have no idea how the plant was built but just knowing how it can spread through floors through eaves obviously there's probably not a ton of wood but the fact is steel can heat to the point where it can ignite things in other rooms. It's been proven I watched a video recently on just heating a steel rod the heat went through the rod into another room and lit a couch on fire because it was watching it just because of how heat can conduct but when they say they need to assess the damage after a big fire that is a factual statement it's incredibly hard to do something like that especially on a large scale. And they have to do it on a completely different level almost because they have clean rooms so they have to make sure there's like there's a maximum amount of particles you can have in a room to be able to call it a clean room. That's a whole other level. I mean particles in the air. Yeah. So like oh that's ridiculous so there's going to be an insane amount of investigation that has to go on that's why they're saying for the next like two months probably and then from there they might get production going on and part of the plant but not the whole plant but again I don't think this is going to be on the scale of the hard drive crisis because it's still not the same amount. We are going to do a Twitter blitz soon not quite yet we're going to do one more topic and then we're going to do a Twitter blitz so you guys can ask us about whatever you want tweet me at slick PC and we will hit up the Twitter blitz that's going to be right after the next topic and we're going to jump down to that right now. So ADATA showed off a picture of 32 gigabytes of DDR4 but not really there was some interesting stuff going on. They worded it in a very odd way but what it actually was was 32 gigabytes on a single stick super tall one by the way it was massive of DDR3L which is DDR3 low voltage so you guys can see there if you go back to the RAM stick it's huge. The thing's giant it's like a dominator maybe even a little bit bigger. You know what I would say it's probably even bigger than a dominator and like those are huge already so that's pretty nice. The DDR3 dominators of course. Yeah. That's what we're referring to not the DDR2. Not the boss mode DDR2 dominators that we both rocked. Yeah. Anyways so what they said was 32 gigabytes on a single module and that's not all we will see modules that will go up to 128 gigabytes in the near future DDR4 is here. That sounds like they're talking about DDR4 in the photo which is why there was so much confusion but what they were trying to say is look 32 gigabytes on a single module things will be getting exciting in the future with DDR4 once that becomes a thing because we can see stuff around 128 gigabytes. They're talking about two separate things. Yeah. They're saying look what we can do now this is what we're probably going to be able to do in the future with two separate things completely separate things. So like there was a lot of controversy about that a lot of confusion on our forum alone it got three pages worth of comments and on the Facebook page it got a huge amount of comments. So just wanted to point that out another cool tidbit to take away from that is 128 gigabytes of RAM on a freaking stick. Sorry I got to remember to move. I'm still in my nervous state but yes that is that's I remember when you first showed this to me we're actually talking about that's incredible you know that is that's so many times what you could ever need you know unless you're running half a dozen virtual machines you know or something to that aspect but it's it's just showing you where where we can go and where definitely our limits aren't if that makes any sense. Sorry. You know showing us where our limits are not. Yeah yeah. You'll never need more than whatever that number was of RAM. I already think that's like 64 kilobytes or something. Yeah. Ridiculous back in the day. Yeah. Dude 128 gigs on a stick. A stick. And like okay maybe this isn't super consumer focused necessarily but it's still awesome because at some point in time we will need this. Exactly but everything that starts elite that starts business class eventually will turn into consumer and like always happens. A lot of people are only using about six gigs of RAM now. Yeah. I'd say that's a fairly heavy usage. Six gigs of RAM is a thing but it'll always increase. So the fact that we will have that available is awesome and stuff like Haswell IVE. Yeah. Haswell E. There we go. Haswell E coming out rumors and stuff. Eight cores. Eight cores and eight dim slots with 128 gigs in each dim slot. Boom. Like a billion and a half gigs I think. It's probably somewhere around a billion and a half gigs. It's just ridiculous. So we're basically unlocking limits which is just fantastic because right there you're getting away from anything you could ever need until you get into things like Knight's Corner which I haven't heard a lot about in a long time but come on Intel tell me more about Knight's Corner. I'm not even going to explain that any further. We're going to jump into Twitter Blitz before we get into the depressing topic of the day. So hopefully people tweeted me or else this is going to be super anticlimactic. Looks like they did. I'm willing to bet they did. So if we go to Twitter Blitz. Do do do do do. Did you know that Samsung is making the iPhone A7 processor? Funny Samsung being one of their main competitors. You actually pointed this out to me. And he asked guess who's making the A7 processor? And I guessed it but just because I thought that would be hilarious. Not because I necessarily even thought it would be true. And I was thinking like okay who could make this? It's not Intel. So who else is it right? The thing is and the article that I was reading stated it very well is it's hard to find someone who can produce that kind of technology on that kind of scale. It's not like you can be like well I don't like you. I'm going to go down to Bob's hardware and you know get Bob to do it. Just buy a few chips no big deal. I haven't talked to Bob since like the 2011 Christmas party but I'm sure we can you know grow a fist up and he'll make me. It doesn't work like that. He's one of those people where you can even if you haven't met each other for a long time it's still instant click again. It's just you're good. There's no drama. Been the same since grade 12. Exactly. No big deal. Anyways that made no sense at all. But yeah so. It does though with the core point being that you don't have options. Yeah. And even if you guys are suing each other you know a dozen lawsuits at a time they still work together which is. And both companies must have looked the Samsung looks at this and goes here's a huge part of profit that we can make. Yeah. We made this processor we can give it to them. Their market share is not going to go down if we don't do this. Exactly. Because they even though there isn't a lot of options they'll find something. They. Yeah. Out of necessity they would. Yeah. So make a ton of money or don't make a ton of money and there's no really not much else going on there. Like they might have lost a little bit more market share but it wouldn't have been that significant compared to them being able to sell the chip to them. But even they might lose a minute amount of share but they're just gaining cash. They don't have to market these chips. Not at all. All they're doing is just mass producing mass shipping them. They set their price. Obviously I don't know the exact numbers. Yeah. But something like that doesn't take nearly the same risks risks as something you're going to produce and then try and sell. Yeah. Take the S3 the S4 even though those sold incredibly the note three that's going to sell very well too. Of course. It's not a technical guarantee or if I go hey Luke I'm going to go to you. I need a million of these probably more. But let's say you know I need a million of these chips. And you come back with a price. You know that's that's such a linear trade. Yeah. That it's it's such a business smart and easy decision that you know they could never they could never pass on like that. Yeah. So it's smart on both sides. Apple got a great chip. The A7 is a great chip and Samsung made a whole bunch of money. So like it makes sense. And while these companies are huge that's another thing you have to realize. So while part of them might be competing with another company it's not necessary that the whole company is competing at the same time. So like their division that's making processors isn't necessarily competing with Apple. That makes no sense. The mobile division is. Yeah. So the mobile division might be more reluctant to share things but the other part might not be. So it's it's just it's just kind of interesting. That's that's a good point. Do do do do do. Who's your favorite Dota hero? Let me scroll down to this one. This is kind of random but who's your favorite Dota hero? I think I know. The store only played a couple of games. Yeah I've only really played the sniper. Yeah yeah he's pretty cool. I like to wear a sniper too but my I'm gonna go with Drow Ranger. I was a little bit more random. Clark Martin it's his birthday so shout out to you man. Happy birthday dude. Happy birthday. I like his picture. Me too. It's pretty awesome. Large capacity RAM versus low cast latency RAM for gaming. I'm actually gonna be releasing a video very soon where I'm benchmarking cast latency and timing differences on RAM. Now they're all 8 gig modules. It's actually the same kit. I'm just changing latencies and timings and then we're gonna show that performance compared to cost of a stick of RAM that has those specs. So I took a really really high end stick of RAM and I turned the settings way down and then incrementally turned the settings up and then we're gonna show yeah we're gonna show cost per performance for that kind of RAM. And it's an interesting story I can already tell you what it's gonna be. It's not really worth buying super high performance RAM because you do gain performance but it's a very low amount of performance that you're gaining. So is it noticeable is the question we gotta start asking ourselves. Yeah. Not really. The moral of the story is probably buy a 1600 kit and then there you go. Because that's kind of the sweet spot although you'll be able to decide your own sweet spot once we're there. I just scrolled the way right up. And it's really Linus and yourself are huge hardware buffs. I love computer hardware but I'm not on the same level of you guys as hardware buffs. I'm a little bit more blue collar I guess which I'm sure some of your viewers are as well. And for me something like a 1600 for RAM is perfect because the bang for your buck is just it's there. You can get it for a great price. It works great for whatever you're doing. You know as long as you get you know like get an 8 gig pack. I happen to have 16. That's overkill. To be completely honest it is. For what I use it for it is is it nice? Does it look good? Hell yeah. But is it technically over and above what I need? Yes. And I just think RAM especially with something like RAM you know that's where you can save a little bit of money. You know and get an 8 gig kit and you can be set of course if you want to do more than that. It's possible and then even then you can buy like dominators. Low end dominators. Dominator Platinum's are not that expensive. Like they're not that bad as long as you go loading. And they look amazing. And they look freaking incredible. You can instantly make your build look so much better by throwing in some dominators. Or throwing in some other RAM that looks sharp. Like I know Corsair LPs look great because they're low profile RAM with a solid color. So they can just very easily go along with any color build you want to do which is awesome. I think we're going to get into some builds later eh? Sorry? Off the forums? Look at some builds off the website. Maybe? Maybe not? I forgot to make that powerpoint. But we can figure it out. We can just go look. Yeah we can just go look on the. That's what I do from time to time. Yeah. I actually I don't post that much on the forums but I do tend to look at build logs. Build logs is like. I find that's where I spend the most of my time. I can do that on my phone at work. So you can just look through and like oh pretty. That looks really nice. Oh that's nice. I like what you did there. That's pretty good. Yeah so I don't know. That's pretty cool. Will there be an app coming out for the forum? I know I've been sitting on this one for a while. Probably not. You have a mobile version correct? We have a mobile version. And it's pretty good. And an app there's not no merit in that. An app would be better because an app you could have preloaded assets. So like our logo and all that good stuff could be preloaded so it could load things faster. And it could use less bandwidth which is another thing. So like there is definitely merit in that question. That's true. It's a lot of work. It's a huge amount of work. So we're yes Tapatalk. We do have Tapatalk enabled on the forum which is kind of an app for the thing. Not really but it's pretty good. So you can try that out. I would check out Tapatalk if you really want an app. But yeah if it comes it won't be for like at least a year or two. And then even then probably not because we have so many other big things we want to focus on. Earlier in this cast we talked about how we're doing HTTPS, IP Nexus, Classifieds, the new theme, content which is going to be the new homepage like all that kind of stuff. We have huge projects that we're working on the forum literally every single day that we want to get done. All of these ideas and all of these projects including other ones that we haven't talked about at all before we would even start thinking about a mobile app. So I don't know. That's all I have to say about that. I have to agree with all of that. That's kind of a boring answer. But you guys are constantly progressing, constantly looking at what everyone is asking of you and trying to go down that path. So it's constantly evolving and it's great to see anyone who has used the forum since the very beginning realizes this. That it's been a constant growth from day one. I was streaming the other day and Winspeed was watching my stream. Winspeed is one of my forum mods. And someone was like hey it would be really cool if we could have like Xfire tags on the forum. And I was like yeah that would be pretty cool. I think I've seen a hook about that. I was like talking for a little bit and Winspeed was just like it's done. Just like boom. Yeah that was pretty fast. You have some boss forum mods. I know. It's kind of, I got pretty lucky to be honest. They're pretty epic. I'm really really really picky about my forum mods. But like that just shows the agility that we've had with the forum. We've moved as quickly as we possibly can at all points in time. We had PHP BB and then we had to install VB. And then we were like nope this sucks. And then we installed IPS. And then IPS came in and then we were like hook hook hook hook hook hook hook. Different add on. Okay people want classifieds. Okay work on this. Classifieds isn't really secure. Logins aren't really secure. Fix that. Blah blah blah blah. And at that time you're talking about when you're switching with VBolt and all that stuff. Your stream was in a garage. You know and it wasn't the best lighting setup. Like this lighting setup is gorgeous. This room is gorgeous. You know everything is constantly getting better week by week by week. And perhaps enough padding on the back. Maybe back to Twitter. Sure. Yeah yeah yeah. Okay back to Twitter. SamDB is asking if you can get a birthday shout out. I thought your birthday already came and went. But either way happy birthday man. Which one is that? SamDB. Also it's just Sam. Oh there he is. Okay. Yeah right at the top. Yeah with the awesome picture there. Yeah. Streams low volume. Sorry bro. Play StarCraft against each other in the afterparty. I'm not quite sure how we could stream that. I'm not sure how entertaining that would actually be. You would crush me. We would both be just focused on what's going on. Yeah. Maybe we could set that up for some time. Sure. Maybe we can set up like viewers verse. Maybe we should do viewers verse. Something. We'll figure something. We could even have viewers verse with like you and me versus viewers or something. But I don't think it would be that entertaining for us two because he knows exactly what I'm going to do and not even because of that he's just way better than me in general. So those two combinations where I'm not going to change my strategy because I only do one thing and that he's way better than me in general is a bad combination meaning I lose. So it might not be too eventful. You know maybe some Hearthstone. That's cool right now. We could do Hearthstone. Counterstrike. Yeah there's like there's a ton of stuff we can do on the afterparty. There is going to be an after party. The after party will be twitch.tv slash luke underscore lafr. We got to go to your place. Yeah it shouldn't. It shouldn't take that long. Yeah we'll be we're pretty close. We'll be up pretty quick. Did you check out the Star Citizen hanger module. Guys if you have if you backed Star Citizen get on that. Go to the website download the hanger module. Holy crap it's freaking cool. You can check out the ship that you have because you backed. Hopefully you have a ship because you backed and it's really nice. They don't have a ton of graphics settings yet that are available. They don't have a they don't have like a bunch of other stuff but like check it out. It's fantastic. We are this is largely going to be driven by me but Linus is also a huge fan of Star Citizen. So he's not against this idea when I proposed it at all. But what I want to do is have benchmark runs for every iteration of Star Citizen. So soon I'm like halfway done running it actually. And because Linus is away I might actually just film the whole thing myself. But we're I'm going to have benchmark stuff for the hanger module. And then when dog fighting comes out I'm going to have a benchmarking video for dog fighting and then whenever the heck comes out after that I'm going to have a benchmarking video for that. And I'm going to try and have benchmarking videos along the way which they may not be super accurate with how hard it's going to be to run the game when it's out. The game's not out for a really long time. And we think it would be interesting to show the progression of the game. That too. It's kind of an iconic game right now. So it might not have 100% of value as maybe another benchmarking game but it also has the value that everyone is watching this. Everyone's following it. How many Star Citizen shirts have we seen it packed? Not including your own. It's just iconic. That's the best way to summarize everything I want to say is that a lot of eyes are on this project. For sure. And like with the amount of people that are backing it it's going to define a part in gaming history. Like just with the amount of money that's been spent on it, with the scope of this project and the amount of people that are into this game, like it doesn't matter if you ignore it. It's going to be huge. So we might as well try and track it as best as we can. That being said it's not like we're not going to have, I'm going to have a benchmarking video for Battlefield 4. I can give you that right now. I'm probably going to have a benchmarking video for GTA 5 whenever the heck it finally comes out for PC. Make it fast. And like I'm going to keep on covering all this stuff. I also want to have all the iterations of Star Citizen along the way. We're not really blitzing this Twitter. We're spending a little bit of time on it but oh well. This is a siege. A Twitter siege. Twitter, yeah. Twitter siege. We will break down the walls but it might take a little while. I've used Windows all my life. I've dabbled in Ubuntu but I couldn't get past installing drivers. What's a good way to learn Linux? There's tons of different videos online. I'm surprised you had problems with drivers actually because a lot of them just use general Linux drivers. So with Ubuntu as long as you can get an internet connection it shouldn't be that hard really. Now that being said of course there's problems. So if you have problems with a core driver that's really unfortunate. But I would just, I can't think of any websites all the top of my head but there's tons of them. I just can't think of them right now. I have them bookmarked. That can help you with this kind of stuff. But one of the first things, install your drivers. Make sure everything works. And then try and go in and install all the programs that you want. Try to do it manually through command line. That will teach you very quickly. And start trying to navigate through folders and everything through command line because that will teach you a lot very quickly. Or if you just want to be a casual user once you get those drivers installed there's not much left to do. They have their own little version of an app store and all that kind of stuff. So yeah I've never had driver issues with Ubuntu either. I've actually never had a single driver not automatically detect and install itself. But there's obviously potential for problems so that's quite unfortunate. What do I think of this shine 3? Shine 3 is pretty epic. Fade reactive is like the coolest thing ever. Yeah for sure. So what Fade reactive is, is reactive mode on a keyboard is when you're typing and it lights up when you press down. The problem with that is the second you let go the light goes away. So it doesn't really do much even though it's kind of cool. It's just too quick. Yeah it's too quick. So Fade reactive is it puts a fade on the light. So it turns the light on and then it fades away instead of just turning off. Super cool. So it gives this really cool effect especially if you type really quickly. So that's awesome. And like realistically once you get past a certain point you're looking at build quality and features. So while that might not seem like a super big deal to some people. That's what you're looking at when you're purchasing a Ducky or a Philco or something like that. Yeah absolutely. I wish my Year of the Dragon had the fade away. Yeah that would be awesome. But I still love it. So yeah if no one caught that he has a Year of the Dragon which is pretty badass. Bottlenecking is a really weird concept. I actually saw that tweet while you were talking and there's just not enough information there. I feel. I would post your entire system spec on the forum and then try and get people to help you because I'm assuming you're trying to squeeze more frames out in video games. But like what are you trying to do? Are you trying to render videos? Are you trying to play video games? Because it's different depending on what you're doing. Or do you just want a quicker interaction with your computer? Yeah something like you want Windows quicker or your Chrome or email stuff like that. Then I would say don't worry about those stats. Grab an SSD or something like that. Or does he have an SSD? I don't know. So post all your specs on the forum and try and get help there. Someone asked what I'm running in Star Citizen for packages. I have a Hornet and a Drake Cutlass. Hybrid Drive versus SSD Cache for gaming and light work. I'm interested in this. I'm going to sit back just like everyone else. I'm interested on this question. It's interesting. You're going to spend more money with an SSD cache because then you have to buy an SSD and a hard drive. Albeit a small SSD but still expensive. And you'll get a better experience with that but you're spending more money. So it's like a hybrid drive is in my opinion. I'm running a hybrid drive in my laptop. I'm running a Momentous XT. Now I like that because I have a whole bunch of storage. It didn't cost me a ton of money and it's pretty quick. It's not super fast but it's fast enough for me. So if you need that speed, I'm assuming you're dealing with a desktop because it's two drives. If you need that speed you can set up that cache but you're getting into the point where you might as well spend the 50 extra bucks and then just have a dedicated SSD. So I don't know. Personally I would either go if you're strapped for cash I would buy a hybrid drive. If you're not strapped for cash I would buy an SSD and a hard drive and run them separately. And run like your OS and maybe a few core programs on the dedicated SSD and then just a hard drive for storage. That's what I do. Yeah. Do we have plans for another Build Log anytime soon? Yes Linus will be doing that. How do you feel about the Blackberry News? I saw that as well. I don't know the Blackberry News. Me neither. I haven't so focused on iOS 7, Cyogen Mod. Yeah unless it's old. This is older Blackberry News with them looking to sell themselves. Oh is that what? That's kind of older. Not that new. Yeah sorry we're gonna move on. Oh cool. Yeah we got a tweet. Gotta give a shout out to mom. Hey mom. Hi mom. How's it going? Slick and cold are you still squealing about Day9 TV noticing you guys? Just internally. Just internally. Just internally. No vocal squealing? Well I did a little. No more vocal squealing? Yes. Oh they laid off 40% of their workforce. That's not to be unexpected though. Horrible. That still really sucks though. Of course it does. But like. That's a lot of additional people looking for jobs in an economy that is. Is not very accepting of that right now. But to be honest if I was a worker of Blackberry I hope they would already be looking. That too. That's a good point. But because there's been a lot of problems there and like sometimes you gotta read the cards. Now a lot of these people might not have been able to get jobs. So that's a huge part of the reason why this sucks. Because there's not very many places to go. But maybe like someone just said hey they can maybe join Cyanogen Mod. Or it's CyanOS or whatever they're now calling themselves. So that's. Blackberry employees in the audience. All 40% of you. Apply to Cyanogen because that's probably not a bad idea and you need to move from there definitely. Do you have something to say? I just. I feel absolutely blessed. I've had 39 followers today. I'm one away from 300. Boom. So. You gotta screenshot 300 because that's kind of a cool number. That is. I've screenshotted 577. No not 577. I've screen shot it. Yeah 1337. And. I remember that one. And 57. And I don't know if there was other ones. But yeah. Pretty epic. I think we might be able to be done with the Twitter Blitz for now. We've taken a little bit of. A little bit more time than I was hoping to do with the Twitter Blitz. How about one more because someone tweeted at both of us. One more. Where's this? So it's actually. Oh I'm not sure. I guess we can't pull it up because they tweeted it. They tweeted it. 36 seconds. So go to the very top. Boom. Boom. There we go. OK so. Amit Narine. Or is it Amit Narine? I know because I've actually known two people. With it's spelled A-M-I-T. One was Amit and one was Amit. So I'm not actually sure which one that is. They're saying what do you run in your personal rigs? I run a 3770K. With a MSI 660Ti. I have a. Which I actually got from you for my birthday which was pretty cool. I got a Samsung 840. No 890. Samsung 840 Pro. 840 Pro. It's 840 Pro SSD. And then I have my black and my green Western Digital drives for storage. I think I covered everything. I've got 16 gigs of RAM in there. Basically. Yeah there's a few more components but like the main two things that really matter in my opinion when someone asks you system specs is like your processor and your graphics card. Yeah. For what I'm doing. So like you covered those. Yeah. So my like really baseline idea of my system specs and now these are subject to change. I'm planning on bringing a completely new rig which I will be doing a build log for and all that kind of stuff for the past BWOC land next year. I was going to do it this year but then I was like I don't have enough time or finances to get this done properly and I want to do it properly. So for next year BWOC I'm planning on having a new rig. But anyways right now I'm running a 2600K and a Galaxy Super Glocked 660Ti. Cool. Yeah. It does. It kind of. I could get more performance. I would like more performance. But. Oh well. What I recently invested in in my computer was actually four 3TB WD Red drives that I put in rig one. Because right now like I got I recently purchased an Oculus. That's going to show up in October. But right now without the Oculus running I can run most games at fairly acceptable settings and fairly acceptable frame rates. Once the Oculus shows up I'm probably going to have to upgrade my graphics card. Because that's so much harder to run. 2600K I'm not too worried about upgrading. To be completely honest I'm quite happy with my 2600K and I think I'm pretty sure the ban on my 2600K is pretty nice. Yeah. Because I've gotten it to some pretty insane settings. So I like my 2600K. But the graphics card will probably have to change soon. We should come back to Twitter later because I love interacting with Twitter and chat. Yeah. No seriously. We could never stop. So we need to put a hard period on here. Sure. Sure. So we'll move off for now. And one thing in the after party we'll try and have a lot of fan interaction during the after party. So now. That's one thing if. Because I stream a bit too. Obviously my younger brother here is completely e-famous. You guys love him which is awesome. He absolutely deserves it. But I try to do that a lot. But it's hard when you have this many people. Yeah. Because when I stream you know our events we can get you know a couple hundred people and it's a lot of fun. But the chat goes much slower. And it's much it's hard to keep track of this. But what do you do you want to jump into the. The depressing topics. I almost don't really want to cover this but we kind of have to. So Hiroshi Yamauchi from Nintendo has passed away recently which is like super depressing. And yeah I'm going to go through like a very short history of Nintendo and I'm going to tweet out a few different links here so that you guys can see one of these is a Kotaku link about the Nintendo they tried to forget which is like Nintendo's weird history and some of the stuff they've done including making cards and making I think appliances at some point and a love hotel which is awkward a taxi service toy blocks noodles like they've made everything literally. OK so Yamauchi took over Nintendo making playing cards in 1989 when his grandfather passed away in 19 with OK they've been making playing cards from since 1889. There we go. Too many dates. His grandfather passed away in 1949 and he took over and then when he took over he's like I'm an entrepreneur. I will take this company further. And with his great vision because he's just such a powerful crazy guy he's like the Steve Jobs of Nintendo because I've heard actually that he was pretty hard on his employees and demanded a lot. But then the same kind of thing the success you see with Nintendo and the success you see with Apple was just crazy. They both started from fairly moderate beginnings and they just boom which is just crazy. So they still made some of the you know Super Mario Brothers is one of the best games ever. It's still you know it's just a ton of fun to play. I know we were playing it. Maybe this was actually a little while you know maybe five six months ago but we had it set up and we were playing a ton of it. It's still so much fun. Yeah just at mom's house there and it was just yeah it was ton of fun just switching the controller back and forth and playing the side scroller was you know it was great. And like even their Super Bowl games even their new games they're still fun. And like someone just said they're comparing it to Gabe Newell for Valve and like it's. Oh absolutely. Yeah. It's just the iconic leader of an incredible company that has made such an impression on you. You know I'm not necessarily a huge Apple fan myself but those who enjoy their products hold Steve Jobs to such a high standard almost you know on that kind of pedestal. You know Gabe is one of those as well. I'm a huge Valve fan. I've got the lanyard. Yeah. You know from the original Half Life games that just completely took me into Counter Strike to all that kind of stuff. Counter Strike was a huge part of our childhood. Absolutely. Counter Strike was big. Counter Strike was a ton of fun. It was always that at that time at least we weren't into StarCraft quite yet but it was that competitive edgy you know game that you would play that kind of ranks you know how good are you. Jump on Counter Strike. You die instantly man. It's so hard. You jump right you know and I it was I remember you know being in middle school and it was just it was such a big deal. You know how hard it was. I still remember being upstairs in that computer room and the first day that I was able to get a kill death ratio that was above one. I was just like yeah. Look at what I did. I'm the best. I'm so good at everything. Yeah. So anyways he crazy entrepreneur so he gains control over Nintendo and then decides okay I want to try everything. So they try making noodle blocks. They try making noodle blocks. They try making noodles. They try making toy blocks. They try a taxi service and they even try a love hotel which gets a little bit interesting. He owned the Mariners. Yeah. I'll get into that. So it was finally in 1977 that they decided to get into the video game industry and one of the best moves he probably ever made was hiring Shigeru Miyamoto. I hope I just said his name correctly but I'm pretty sure I did. That guy is the dude behind Donkey Kong Mario and Zelda which is basically the dude behind everything. For like so many games that I played when I was younger. So much awesome content that has never really dwindled too much. One thing that's interesting about Nintendo game reviews that I notice is that they always get ranked a little bit lower and they're like oh they lost the vision that they had when they were a younger company and I'm like yeah maybe you have a little bit of correctness when you say that but at the same time they have to change things. They have to move forward and I'm a huge lover of previous Mario games but the new ones they have good mechanics and they're bringing in interesting stuff and I don't think you can hate on them that much just because you have such a desire to play the old games. It's the exact same thing with music and bands that you expect them when they come out of high school and they're making their kind of edgy stuff to make the exact same material 30 years later when they have two kids, two houses, all this kind of... when their world literally could not be more different they cannot come out with the exact same stuff. They have to develop and change because they are developing and changing. You can't just stay static, they can't come out with a side scroller every year for 20 years. It's just not going to work. And if they tried they would almost be doing a shame to what they did have. They still do but it's changed so much. Yeah exactly it has changed and they have to. Even though I'm one of those guys and I'm like this brand new Zelda doesn't give me the same feelings that the old one did. But that six year old kid with his game boy playing away is doing the exact same thing we did and he's feeling the exact same way we did and he's making the same style of memories that we did. Which is fantastic and Nintendo has always been like that so again I'm super excited to see this guy go. He stepped down in 2002 and he's one of the richest men in Japan and one of the funny purchases that he had was he was the owner of the Seattle Mariners which a lot of people don't know but that's true he was the owner of the Seattle Mariners and he finally sold them in 2004. He's most well known for making the NES popular because at that point in time the video game industry had kind of had a crash and he brought it back with NES and it's almost seen as the rebirth or it's quoted here by Aaron Supoporos. Supoporos? Supoporos. I'm not entirely sure. The Verge's Aaron something starts with an S as the catalyst for the rebirth of the video game industry which like just imagine that for a second. We might not have so many games we might not have this culture that we have now if it wasn't for him pushing the NES as hard as he did. So I'm very sad. Well imagine the SNES flopped. Yeah like what would have happened it would be totally different. You know someone was saying Dreamcast for the win. Dreamcast is awesome but not enough to create and really push the industry through that early years. The early years is always the hardest and someone was saying Pokemon. Pokemon was huge. Pokemon was probably a bigger part of our gaming childhood than even Counter Strike. We both had Red and Blue and played a ton of it and you know like if those titles you know Final Fantasy 7 you know if those titles those specific titles didn't happen you know where would we be now. It's an interesting idea but he definitely helped shaped where we are now in you know in eSports is now a thing. Yeah. You know and it's only growing it has never taken a step back and he's. He was the catalyst and the rebirth of the. Yeah which is super cool and like yeah it's just freaking awesome. If you're big into computers video games you know they're combined but even if you're one and not the other you still still have a you know maybe a moment of silence or something you know. Yeah. Remember this. Remember this man with respect. I kind of did because I read the article last night. Yeah. For like the third time because it's I can't remember exactly what happened but the after after I was finally off work and able to sit down and read the article I just sat there and was just like wow. Holy crap that actually just happened like that's such a big momentum change like yeah he stepped down from the company a while ago but it's still like holy cow this guy's gone which is just so not cool and so crazy at the same time. So we're going to move on to a less depressing but in my opinion not super surprising or interesting but anyways PlayStation 4 will support video capture via HDMI. PlayStation 3 did not support this. Pretty cool. But we were actually at PAX with and we were watching a panel and they were talking about you know how can you capture out of a PS3 out of an Xbox. It was a live streaming panel and it was really interesting. There's a lot of people there with a lot of questions. Obviously I'm not big into the consoles but they have to figure out a way for them to stream. You know Xbox One PlayStation 4 is going to fix that with stuff like this capture straight from HDMI. Usually they try and block that. They actually go out of their way. They try not allow that. Yeah. And it seems like PS4. I'm not completely up on the news but it does seem like they're doing everything they can to appease their customer base. So you guys want this you don't want that. That's what we're doing. I remember the gift came out and I don't even know who it was. They're both wearing suits. I believe they were decently high up in PlayStation and they said I don't have my phone. So you share games. Yes. Yeah. This is how you share games. And he was just. Well thank you sir. Yeah. And that's how you share. Just poking fun obviously at the Xbox. It's I really enjoy the angle that PS4 has been taking at least all the media that I'm seeing on it really seem to to show that they respect and listen to their. Yeah. That's really cool. And like I'm not even interested in buying one until they hopefully release some variation. So like PlayStation Slim or whatever of any of the new consoles. But it's still kind of cool to see this. But I hate to poke fun at console gamers but like all I really expect to see from this is more 360 no scopes and GTA car crashes on YouTube which is like K. I can't really. Yeah. I can't lift my hands. But I don't really think it's like way too interesting. One thing that I forgot to bring up during the Nintendo article that I saw someone in chat said Dreamcast was awesome. Dreamcast they're still releasing games. There's Indie Group. Did you know that there's Indie Group still releasing games for Dreamcast. Really. Because it's such a good platform to develop on. I had no idea. It's crazy. They're still releasing games. They're still releasing games for a lot of old consoles actually. But Dreamcast is one of the most interesting development circles that I could possibly find. The stream might be dead. No one said anything yet. No one's saying anything at all yet. Hello. No one's saying anything. I'm not entirely sure if we're still live. It is live. Okay. We're good. No it's not. It's not live. It's fine. It's live. Okay. We're good. We're moving forward. Okay. All right. Yeah. Anyways we're going to jump into. I'm going to skip one topic so we'll jump back to that autopilot thingy. Sure. But what I'm going to go to right now is Firefly MMO is on the way. Crap. Damn it. Why? Why is this happening? Anyways to explain why I'm sad about something awesome coming into existence. The description for the Firefly MMO that is on the way is social online role playing game. If you're looking for other games by that subscription you would be looking at Farmville and Mafia Wars and other games of that type. Like do they not like. It hurts my brain to even think about this. Would you say they understand or do not understand their target audience? Do not. Like Fox has no idea. They have no clue who they're targeting at. Like they're trying to make this game. And you know what? I subscribe for it. I was like yep I'll jump on that because it's Firefly. I have to. I have to jump on it. But it still just drives me crazy. So they have a slated launch for iOS and Android smartphones and tablets for during summer of 2014. So that's a thing. It's developed by QMXI and Sparkplug Games. And if you haven't heard of Sparkplug Games they are the incredible developers behind super well known games like Drumroll, Plate of the Zombie and Dairy Queen Tycoon. Moving onward. I'm trying to get up on stream for you although my laptop is dropping the internet every once in a while. Which I think is why we lost the stream. Oh that kind of makes sense. On my screen. But this is what you're referring to right here. Yep so Plate of the Zombie. And this is their game list. So from this Fox was very easy. Puzzle Quest, Play with the Zombie, DQ Manager, whatever. This is the list of games that led Fox to decide that this is the perfect company to develop the idea of Firefly. Which is depressing to those of us who love that series. Because what I want is a super well developed big game. That's what I want to see. I don't want to see this browser thing. This monstrosity. So the idea of the game is the players are a captain. Your job is to find a crew, find a job and keep flying. Which is like okay well inspired quote I guess. While trading with other players. And that's pretty much all we know about the game. If you go to the keepflying.com link. So if you go to keepflying.com that is the link for the game. This is an official game. It is backed by Fox. It was announced at Comic Con. It's been known for a little while but I didn't really want to cover it until I got more information about it. Because when I first saw this. All I saw was this page. So I saw Firefly online. And I saw their video. Which is like not super. Doesn't have a ton of information on it. So I was excited because I thought it was a full game that they were going to release. I was actually hoping originally that they were going to drop the online thing and make it a single player game. Because when they're going up against the giant forces that are Eve Online and CCP and Robert Space Industries and Star Citizen. Like I almost feel like they probably should have made a single player game. And you know what they should have done? They should have done a single player game that went alongside a new season of Firefly. Like come on. Just do it. Like why not? They're asking for the world here. It's like you're asking for the world. I'm asking for the skies. I'm asking for the verse. Boom. Now just because we're on the topic we do have two keys to give away. I'm thinking we should make up some sort of Twitter question. So what we have is we have two Rome 2 Total War keys to give away. Well okay four kind of because we're giving away Total Rome and we're giving away the Greek States DLC but we'll be giving away both of those individually to two separate people. So you'll get the game and you'll get the DLC if you win. We don't actually have questions yet and what I kind of think we can do is we can give a little bit people some warm up time. So maybe we'll jump and do one more topic and then do the questions for that. So if you guys want in on that draw for Total War and Greek States DLC codes brush up on your Firefly. I guess we can do Firefly questions. I think we should do at least one. We'll do at least one Firefly question and we might do some other question but yeah we'll be doing at least one Firefly question. What it will probably be is I'll say a quote and then I'll ask you who said the quote and like if you've seen the movies or the movies if you've seen the show and the movie it probably won't be that hard for you to pick out but I will try to think of something. So we're not going to do that right now but there is a giveaway coming and what I want to jump into next is we'll jump into Superhot after the next one. So if you want to load up Superhot because we're having some problems here. So load up Superhot and make sure you're not broadcasting sound. Good. Okay. I do have the test the article up if that's what you were. Perfect. Let's jump to that right now. I just want to Superhot to get loading. So Tesla Model S autopilot is a thing. The idea behind it is the Tesla setup uses 360 degree flush mounted cameras and radar with software and hardware level image processing to put the information together. That's a direct quote that is he tweeted that out Elon Musk the craziest person on the planet the real world envisionment of Iron Man in my opinion. That is crazy. He's just everything ridiculous coming out of like the inventor space right now seems to come from Elon Musk the Hyperloop Tesla in general his SpaceX or whatever it's called it's like space programs. The guy's just crazy and awesome. So I'm stoked to see that. There's quite a few other companies that are doing this Mercedes GM Volvo Continental Google all these places have partial or full self part car control things where it can drive itself to some degree. But he wants to kind of go on it on its own. He you think with Google being there that they might have some partnership possibility. But nope, they've decided to go their own way. So that's gonna be really interesting. Personally, I'm not way into the car autopilot thing. And I know Richard and I talked about this in past and neither of us really are. But where I'm way more okay with it is say you're on a work a job site at a mine and you need these huge massive trucks to just kind of truck stuff around. I see that being much more applicable. I'm not a huge fan of self driving cars on the road because of demonstrations that we've already seen already seen a few people being able to hack into them and just mess with them. But make the car think the e brakes on so it drives differently make the car do whatever. So that just kind of sketches me out because while I'm not perfect and probably more flawed than that machine is I don't I I'm not personally hackable. Unless you're talking about social engineering which is a thing but like yeah, I'm very anti. Yeah, I'm I'm pretty strongly anti. I have always enjoyed driving I drive a lot. It turned out that I'm driving for living right living right now I drive for the teamsters union for 155. That's the local movie union working on wonderland right now, which is pretty cool. But I drive a lot I drive large trucks downtown Vancouver, which is some of the worst driving you can have and honestly, I'm relaxed and I get it done every day and it's and it's not that difficult and I am terrified of sitting in a car and there's the thing is technology is beautiful and there's technologies great. You know, take my s3 for example every once in a while with my s3 I can type in five words in a text message and it just sits there and I feel like it's looking at me just and nothing's happening and then like all of a sudden it's like oh yeah, those words. Oh, the words and then it puts all the words and then you know other times it works fine and there's just different issues. Whereas if my phone decides not to put those words out instantaneously, that's not an issue. If my car decides to not avoid something instantaneously, that's a huge issue. And being a firefighter as well. I've gone to car accidents and I because people say I can I can hear the argument that you know, it's safer to it'll save lives and I could see that possibility but I also can see other possibilities of cars being hacked of you know anything that's technically I'm just scared. I feel. A virus. Exactly or any leg time. What if there's a communication error something goes down someone spills water someone kicks you know something out of the wall somewhere and you know redundancy is great. The fact is if your email doesn't show up for five minutes it doesn't matter. If your car doesn't respond for five minutes you're dead. It matters yeah. You know it's people have said in Twitch chat I've seen quite a bit of it sorry to cut you off there but no no that cars are already getting hacked not even self driving cars because there's so many computer components. Wait till everything goes way beyond that. Well everything's networked and automated and all that kind of stuff like it'll just get easier. Even when I was in high school guys would especially with their imports even and even not even start to change even with big trucks and stuff like that getting them chipped getting them chipped right getting a different chip in them changing the computer programming the computer. It's it's big it's not this old school you know carb engines you know you got to be a motorhead to understand what I'm saying there but it's not that style anymore. They're not just machine you know there's there's a lot of computer there a lot of software. I was I was watching Twitch today and there was an advertisement saying that I don't even remember what I was for a Chevy I'm not even sure what one but saying that it will send you a report onto your email saying how your car is tell you all about the pressures and you know all the different tires who's saying that you can't get it's a wireless signal. So let's start with that security and then who's saying that I can't get into that and say make your car think there's zero pressure or make your car think like we're watching with the hack you know oh you're going to parallel park right now which parallel parking is probably the most turns of a steering wheel you would do in such a small travel distance. So it just your your steering wheel starts spinning you know anything like that if there's any sort of delay in reaction time I believe that's really scary. I think the way you start curbing vehicle incidences or incidents are harsher penalties for big issues such as running red lights. There's a huge problem with red lights in downtown Vancouver Richmond Surrey stuff like that and people just aren't cracking down on them especially and we were talking yesterday about an old star we're getting a little away from technology we were talking about a lady who hit someone and who was distraught two people. So she got away with it because she was upset. She was crying and she was upset so her tears were blurring her vision she was speeding and went through a red light and killed two people. How not okay is that I can't even begin to describe. She was distraught coming home from a Justin Bieber concert. I couldn't care why she's distraught. No. Like not at all. It's not okay. You need to park it if that's the issue. It's horrible. So like not personally stoked but you know if anyone can do it properly it's probably Musk in some way. That's true. Just to get back to the original topic if it is done properly which technology is always evolving and becoming more part of our lives. If someone had to do it even though I am anti I would give it to the Tesla boys. And especially because of how he said it so far 360 degree flush mounted cameras radar both things local. Yeah. It's not like oh it's a network thing that's pulling in from Google Maps and Google Maps is telling it traffic conditions and all this other kind of stuff. It's like 360 degrees cameras radar. Both things that you can have locally on a car. So that actually made me happy right when I read that too. But I think it's time to move on from there. So can we get that super hot video going. Sure. Super hot video. That's that's not what it is at all. Anyways it's right there. So if you want to just like blow it up and maybe increase quality so it doesn't look like poo. Don't have the option. That's weird. Maybe if you go to YouTube site instead of this thing. It's gonna start playing. We're gonna show off. Yeah we're gonna show off. Can you get it back to the beginning. Yeah. Give us one second guys. We're gonna show off super hot which actually looks really cool. Really really cool. It was it was the fastest game to go through steams green light process ever so far which is not a huge period of time but still. So here we go. Sohring online demo music is playing. No sound on the video? Do you have it muted? Oh shoot. I have my whole system muted because I didn't want any sounds to go out. 20-27 percent. Sorry guys, it's completely my fault. No, we won't play the whole thing. So basically the idea of that was... Let's go back up. That's about where we are. I think that's probably good. Yeah, I think they got the essentials of it. A few people in chat, like one guy's like, it's Braid. Another guy's like, it's just a mediocre FPS with time stuff. What do you expect people to do, man? And like, it's Braid because it has a movement time mechanic? Really? Like yeah, you can draw parallels between it. I did in my notes even. But it's not the same game. Braid's a platformer. This is a shooter. What are you talking about? You can tie into Braid with the whole idea that in Braid, in certain points, when you move, everything else in the level can move. Yeah, and this it has kind of the same thing, but it's an FPS, it's not a platformer. What are you talking about? You're wrong, son. Anyways, so it's interesting. It's the fastest game to get green light on Steam. You can play it right now on their website. So if you go to Superhot Game, I think is the URL for it. Let me check this up really quickly. Superhotgame.com. If you install some little Unity plugin thing, you can play in the browser, which is probably not the best way to play it. But it's just a cool little kind of mechanic for a game. It's not game breaking. It's not the craziest thing to be released in the last 10 years. It's not anything like that. But I played it in the browser for a little period of time, and it was actually quite entertaining to play. You get to kind of dodge bullets in an interesting way that's never really happened before. You get to shoot people in an interesting way that's never really happened before. With the time mechanic, it's hard to hit stuff when it's moving parallel to you, but it's really easy to hit stuff when it's coming directly at you and other different combinations like that. So it's interesting. You should check it out if you're a fan of little indie games with new mechanics. That's definitely for you. If you're not, then it's not for you, so don't check it out. I feel like people are being a little hard on it. It's just an easy little game. When you showed me, I was not critiquing it like it was the second expansion for StarCraft or Half-Life 3 or something. You know what I mean? I wasn't putting on that pedestal. It's just a cool little game. It's just a cool little mechanic. It's a tiny game. I don't know. It's not that big of a deal. I wouldn't harp on it so hard. Jeez, guys. I think it's pretty cool. I'm going to try it out. It's not a 20-hour content $59.99 game, but it's been overhyped. What? You guys are nuts. I have no idea what you're talking about. Hey, Kiwi and Apple, man. Game looks fun with a smiley face. Yeah, exactly. Winky face. It's just a small, interesting game. Take it for what it is. You can't compare this to Skyrim. You can't compare this to any other huge game. This isn't GTA V. I don't know why everyone's freaking out so much. Anyways, we're going to move on. Holy talk about Half-Life 3. Why did you have to bring it up? It's true. It hurts. Super hot. There's two names in the title, but there's a third name in the URL. Half-Life 3 confirmed? Yes. Three words. Number 3. Yeah. Half-Life 3. Half-Life 3. Half-Life because time is... I'm only living half a life until I get Half-Life 3. Okay, anyways. I'm going to lose all my followers. Alright. We're going to move on to Dota 2 LAN support, so I actually want you to kind of head this up. Okay, so Dota 2 announced LAN support. Now, we do have some questions about it. If you guys know, go ahead and tweet at me or Slick or both of us and let us know because I'm wondering if it's a pure offline... like if you have no internet access whatsoever, can you go on Steam offline mode? Can you play? Did we confirm that? The reason why he's asking this, and we've confirmed it to a certain degree because that's what everyone's saying, but the wording on it is a little bit vague. So what they say is, now you can create a local lobby and use your computer as a host, which makes us 99.9% pretty sure that it's offline. But then they said to host a rousing round of Dota 2 through your home or cafe network. They didn't say LAN. They didn't specifically say offline. The wording is there that it could totally be offline, but it's not explicit. It's not in stone. That's the only reason why we wonder. But the main thing about this is if it is what we want, which is local play, which is LAN play, which StarCraft guys, if you knew me before today or you've been following StarCraft at all, everyone has been screaming for LAN play. And in a lot of other games, why can't we have just a pure LAN experience? Civ V, we had a pure LAN experience. It was better than hosting online. It was just a better all-around experience. Something like LAN is catering to the gamers because that is what they want. StarCraft II and Blizzard saying, no, we're not going to do that is shutting the door on what their customers want. Exactly. And this is why we're looking into this further. This is why we're like, well, it's not actually worded exactly how it could be is because we're worried. Hypersensitive. And hypersensitive because we've dealt stuff like League of Legends not having LAN support and games dropping and losing everything. And because randomly reconnecting into League of Legends game breaks the whole thing. It's screwed because if you get one team that can reconnect before the other one, they get a massive advantage. And then you have StarCraft games losing total connections. It's just not good. They did improve it with you can recover the game. But that still completely stops the speed. Basically StarCraft stops at the bottom of the graph and just goes up exponentially with the speed, the actions per minute, what is required to play. And even at the first couple of minutes, it's above, at least I believe in my elitist sense, above many, many, many games. And the fact is you have to stop that, reload, have all those issues and lag, anything like that. Any slowdown can be detrimental to the viewers and to the players. So something like having a pure, like because if LAN truly works, I guarantee you they're going to be using LAN at tournaments, the Invitational. They're going to be absolutely losing. It's way more dependable. It's way easier to manage. And those network guys at big LANs run around like crazy. And they work their butts off. Even local LANs like Vancouver, Gauticon, you've got these guys who manage networks full time. And they come and they volunteer their time and they work hard just to keep everything up and going. And I'm sure having it as a LAN would be so much easier for them. And at your place, when we go game there, any game that we can play on LAN is just so much more stress free and generally always way quicker, more responsive. It's just a better all around experience. Yeah, that's very true. Now we're going to jump basically, we're done. Nope, we got one more thing. Okay, so Steam Universe is expanding in 2014. Can you bring that up on your thing? So like I just said, Steam Universe is expanding in 2014. One thing I've seen this addressed in the comments, I got to get this really quickly, in the chat, some people are like, oh my god, mods are abusing their powers. That could totally be Mubot. I have Mubot installed. So Mubot is going to automatically remove certain things based on certain parameters. So if you're typing things in certain ways or linking certain things, it's just going to automatically remove it. So it could be Mubot. I'm not entirely sure. But if you do ever have any problems with the mods, feel free to message me on the forum and I'll take care of it as fast as I can. Anyways, Steam Universe is expanding in 2014. And then what they say after that is last year, quote unquote, last year, we shipped a software feature called Big Picture, a user interface tailored for televisions and game pads. This year, we've been working on even more ways to connect the dots for customers who want Steam in the living room. Soon we will be adding you to our design process so that you can help us shape the future of Steam. And then if you scroll up a little bit, they have these three circles and there's little things in the circles. And I don't know what they mean, but there's a countdown and that countdown is coming up pretty freaking soon. I think that's Monday or something. And I'm pretty sure it's Steam box. I don't really know. But like I'm sure doesn't mean Half Life 3. There's three circles. Whoa, there's three circles. But it's probably not because it says living room. But there is three circles. Yes, yes, probably not. But you know what? Any news from Valve is exciting. There's also three parts of the URL store dot steam power. Oh goodness. Boom. Anyways, yeah, it's it's I'm personally thinking that is probably going to be Steam box, which is awesome. Because I'm super excited for Steve to just waltz in and just destroy because they do that. And I'm excited. Anyways, there's not a lot really to say about that. There's this there's no real information other than this. We got a countdown. We have a countdown. Like I said, it's probably coming on Monday. I think that timing lines up. 63 hours. That makes sense. Yeah. So it's more information coming then. So be sure to check in in 63 hours, 41 minutes and 42 seconds because I will be checking in then. And other than that, we're going to jump down to our two copies of Rome to Total War to give away. So my first question, what should my first question be? I don't want it to be super obvious. Because if I asked like, I'm a leaf on the wind, everyone will know instantaneously who I'm referencing. Let's see here. I think like some of the just how things are worded even are going to be too easy to Yeah, that first one, but this one this one will be pretty easy, but we'll do this as the first one. So how we're going to do it is you have to tweet me the answer. So at slick PC. I know it's wash, but I said that wasn't the one I was going to do because it was too easy. So the first one is going to be I was aiming for his head. That's actually pretty iconic quote, but I don't think that it's super easy to guess who that was because a lot of people aim for heads in that show. So we'll see. Oh, looks like we got someone who's already answered that. So we'll move on. I'm not gonna announce the name right now because sometimes Twitter kind of messes up. So we have a winner. I will announce the name soon ish, but sometimes Twitter kind of mixes where people come in until later on. So as of right now it's James Fleming. But after a refresh or something it could change. So we will see. We've had problems with that in the past. So now we have to come up with some other form quiz. Yeah. We got to think of a question. Sorry. I'm gonna have to twist the Twitch chat right now. What do you guys think this question should be tuned towards. That's a good one. Like, should it be another firefly question or should it be something else or what do you guys think. Yeah, it was used on Castle 2 I know that. Yeah. There's actually a lot of references to Firefly Castle. It's pretty awesome. Firecraft hardware Dota Linus PC hardware. Whoa. Ninja Gaiden. Okay. The question was answered by me in this video. But I don't know how many people are paying that close attention to exactly what I said. But what does DDR3 L stand for. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, what does the L stand for. I like this because there's actually two words there. But there's only one letter. So it's not as easy as you might think. But I think someone will be able to answer that fairly quickly as well. So let's see. Boom. Done. Someone's already done it. So as of right now, again, it could change, but it's Ken McClelland. It might change because Twitter might decide to reorganize things because I'm getting zergrushed. But right now someone has already won. So if you answer past this point in time, there's no point. I just got 20 new interactions. It is not low latency. It is low voltage. Anyways, saying latency. Yep. So I think that's it. Wind, you're correct. I probably should have let the mod team choose the questions, but I think those were all right. And I think that was a fairly all right stream. We don't have a right wind. I need you, sir. We have one thing left to do. We have two keys to give out, don't we? We just did. I will message them later. Oh, okay. I didn't. Those guys that answered that question, make sure that you follow me because I will follow you and that way I can send you a direct message through Twitter. So just give me one sec. I'm going to try to find links to the build logs of the week. Okay, now I'm going to email these to you and like the most getaway possible because I don't know how else to give them to you. So give me one second. So we're doing build logs of the week and then the stream is over. We've already done the giveaway and we will be moving on to lay after party. Sorry guys, just one second. If anyone's wondering, little bug on the form right now if you can't load your messages or notifications when you're on a page, make sure you just put HTTPS colon slash slash before it. You can't load those things if you're not in HTTPS mode and some old links and stuff will only have HTTP. And if it only has HTTP, it will still bring you to the website, but messages and notifications will not work. So we can check your email real quick. You should have links to both of those things. There we go. Which one would you like first? Either one, go with that one. Okay, I'm going to move to there. This guy if we go back up real quick. So, is this. So, live turbo 24 or live turbo 24 with project as pros as pros as pros. So, I'm going to scroll down a little bit for me. This case, actually the case for this build made it into last week's build log of the week. And this thing is freaking cool. So if we scroll down a bunch, we're gonna get some photos are gonna be some in progress stuff. We got to go down like a bunch. So this case, super good looking case and just I love how it works on the power supply goes behind the motherboard all that kind of stuff so we can move down a little bit more again. It's showing two different computers. So this is like an in progress shot it's interesting how you can completely take this case apart there is a few different cases that you can do this kind of stuff with fairly easily but not a ton of them. We just keep checking down. This thing ends up really cool so clean. I like how you went with the colored theme those white inner max fans look super nice. ends up being so tight around everything because how the cable management comes in from the side there and how the power supply tucks in behind this really nice. Those white light really great and then all the sleeving on that power supply also looks great and again it's so tight it hugs the motherboard everywhere. cable management there. I like how you hide your drives in the back there as well. There you go. Wow. That's the shot I was waiting for. That's so nice. Just super cool. I love that this like I said this case made into last week's build log of the week again. I'm starting to feel like this is the new R4 because for about a few months there we had R4s in build logs a week like almost every single build every single week, which was a little bit nuts. Can we scroll down a little bit more. Just different action shots of the computer. Wow. That shows where the power supply is positioned on the case so it's behind the motherboard there. It's just oh man it looks good. Really cool build. Super stoked for this guy so that was a great build. That will be in the build logs of the week forum thread created by wind speed fairly soon. Not Amelia yet and we will be awarding him a forum badge because he's awesome. Now if we can move on to your second link. Now this is ghost. Many of you guys know ghost and you might be surprised when we link this build log because it's not it doesn't have the water cooling awesomeness or quite a few other things that we often have with builds but if you look at his sleeving like the first thing you notice you look at his sleeving. Holy crap that looks good. Really cool. Strung together the runs are beautiful just how it there's no one thing I noticed a lot of times when people have sleeving they'll sleeve their case and they're just like yeah plug it into the things and then there you go like this one's actually the curve on it even is just super nice so great attention to detail. And this is more he's got nice paneling if you look in the back here. It looks great because he's put paneling in there and he's put paneling in the bottom with a little bit of a light box which is also just awesome. It's super clean. Like you pretty much can't get this clean. It's the only thing I would say I don't like just to be a critiquer is the red and the yellow I feel kind of contrast a little bit it's kind of a black red and yellow. Right. Yeah. If that cabling was red I think I like it even more but again personal preference. Yeah and I think still a beautiful build. I'm pretty sure he also posts in here talking about how this is more like he's going to he's a water cooling not head. Yeah. And if you notice it's an all in one audit water. Yeah. So like this this builds I don't necessarily know if it's this build but he's going to be making a more masterful build. This is still awesome. It's still awesome. Yeah. Yes. So super cool. And that's actually the main message I want to send out with this one is you can make something. There's RAM in there. It's just really hard to see. Yeah there's RAM slots two and four. It's just pretty hard to see because it's not like super flashy. Yeah. No really. He thinks on them as far as I can tell. Holy crap. People are mad at the cable. I don't think this power supply is even necessarily staying in this build. Well the reason why I want to throw this building here is he has another build that he links in this that is actually his current computer which is crazy water cooled and but it has a lot of work to be done on it still. And this is going to transform. So while this build log says complete there's more coming. So he has this one that's complete which is really cool. Because if you look at the light box on the bottom the paneling on the back and the really really high quality cabling along with one of the neatest builds I've ever seen there's still more coming. So I wanted to show that off as well. And I think that's kind of it. We can do one more Twitter blitz if you guys want. But that is actually kind of it. So it's like RAM is only for gaming. That's not even true at all. We even covered that earlier in this very episode. RAM is for tons of different things. But you don't need as fast of RAM as you might think. What is happening? I accidentally clicked on something. Real quick why did you get arrested? I didn't actually get arrested. I was trolling all of you. So apparently it worked. Apparently yeah. Apparently it worked. I never actually got arrested. If you look closer into the photo not only is it probably physically impossible for her to arrest me but I don't even have I don't actually have cuffs on my hands are just kind of like a back there and she's smiling which is like weird but yeah that was that like a it's called the night market Richmond night market so she was just there and I asked her to take a picture with me because I saw her taking a picture with a little kid and I was like why can't I take a picture with you that should be fine oh god we have everyone answering all the questions so we're gonna refresh this do you or your brother fold at home we do not actually do folding at home but what we do is point at the phone and we're like oh my god I'm gonna call you Bonik or how our father calls it bonik sounds way better sounds so much better way better it's not bonik but it sounds incredibly better when you call it bonik so we are we are a part of that processor speed for a good cause group but we're not technically in the folding group Isaac wants a shout out of the party party twitch channel again we'll be at the Luke underscore lafr yeah shut out of the after party twitch channel just like he just said so twitch.tv lafr I'm gonna throw it in the chat right now he's throwing in the chat which would be great did you do we're gonna refresh here what do you think the ideal internet speed is I have 3.5 megabytes per megabits per second down steadily and one megabit per second up what do you think you're probably doing pretty good personally the ideal internet all of the Google fiber hundred hundred that's what I want like so I might not be the best person to ask that but if you're looking at like cost per performance level I don't know man it's really gonna depend on where you are but for me Google fiber like I want as fast as I can get yeah I don't like waiting for things and I love the office internet for that reason we have really fast internet in the office do you oh I love this question you like cheeseburgers hamburgers bacon cheeseburgers or bacon hamburgers I'm probably gonna go with bacon cheeseburgers yeah just put all the things on it like when it's a hamburger just like load it up man you guys rock I can't wait to build my computer that's awesome I don't even know what else say about that good luck building a computer cool if you're wondering about parts I would highly recommend going on the forum and go to the new builds and planning section and post in there because there's a ton of people that'll help you out like crazy there's a really good community on the forum and we're going to refresh again are you excited for breaking bad on Sunday I have a pretty crazy habit so what I do is with these popular shows how we'll watch them as I will wait until the whole thing is done so like breaking bad I'm not gonna start watching until they're not making breaking bad episodes anymore I saw the first couple seasons it's awesome I'm sure it's awesome I'm 100% sure it's awesome I'm gonna wait till it's over because I can't I can't wait a week have you seen the cartoon where it's like he goes into the doctor's office and he's like well you have cancer I think I think it was yeah I'm not sure if it was what it was but I kept reading it and it was saying you know he's like oh no now I'm gonna have to turn to a life of crime he's like don't worry citizen like your country is here to take care of you you've been a hard-working citizen oh I guess I'll go back to teaching high school can which then the end I can't remember who I know there was one that was Canada and there was a few there were other countries too that have similar situations but yeah I thought that was pretty funny if this wasn't based in America this wouldn't work if survival horror genre I have no problem with it my favorite genre is just like this isn't even really a thing open world but like Assassin's Creed 4 looks super cool to me Skyrim the Elder Scrolls series have been my favorite games forever Far Cry 3 was awesome yeah sandbox games my favorite thing is sandbox games that's what I was looking for I couldn't think of the word open versus closed headphones your opinion for music and gaming if you're in a loud environment closed headphones if you're in a very quiet environment I would say open headphones because open headphones can give you a more natural listening experience but it also lets sound leak in and out so if you're someone where there's gonna be other people you could annoy them and they could annoy you with closed headphones you kind of lock it in so you can't annoy them much and they can't annoy you much what is your Sennheiser's what model is that five nine fives but if you're looking into Sennheiser's I would suggest five five fives because they're a lot cheaper and really similar and there's a little but holy cow are those headphones good yeah I got to play around a Counter Strike Go the other day with Briggs and I could hear him perfectly yeah and I could hear everything within the game perfectly yeah it was wow I'm super stoked with those headphones yeah when I bought those that was before I worked with Linus and I did an insane amount of research and then I found them on Amazon for like seventy seventy four percent off they were cheaper than the HD five five fives and their HD five nine fives and they're from Amazon like they weren't from some random little retailer so I was like oh yeah gonna buy those so I was a little bit broke but I bought them anyways and I'm super stoked with those but if you're if you're looking don't buy Sennheiser below the 600 series you're either the biggest baller on the planet or a troll I'm not really sure which one because anything 600 series and above from Sennheiser is awesome but you have to like make it rain in the store when you go to buy them or else they don't actually let you walk out because if you're not baller enough to make it rain you probably there's no point you should probably just spend your money on other things oh my goodness a lot more stuff great water cooling case for around 200 bucks depends how many rads you want how I don't know personally like I've seen some it depends on your ads you want depends how thick the rods you want depends how many things in your computer like are you water cooling your graphics card a lot of times today's people aren't water cooling their graphics card there's so many variables with that yeah please post on the forum because what they'll do on the forum is you'll post a question like that and let's say well if your angle is this dissect your angle is this if your angle is that you know it'll yeah I know in an r4 that's like way lower than 200 bucks people are saying more like switch 810 that's definitely not a bad idea I'm personally not a fan of plastic so I have some problems there but if you go with an r4 or a cop what is it called the fractal xl r2 I think it's called that's a great case and you can still fit quite a bit of rad slots in there so it's not a bad idea if you fill up like everything I can I think you can fit two double rads and a single rad in the back but you're gonna have some you have a little bit of long runs there some of that stuff you prefer AKG over Sennheiser that is not a bad point at all AKG you're awesome how excited am I for the 9 new AMD GPU 9000 series it's gonna be like r9 290 and r9 270 and all that kind of stuff pretty excited not even just for those cards like I'm very excited for those cars I'm super stoked to benchmark them especially on star citizen but it's it's it's it's got Nvidia on their tails a little bit that's what I'm excited for they freaked out a little bit that's personally oh crap we got to release a GPU pretty quick like that's personally what I'm most excited for is put stress on them yeah that's that's the thing that I'm you know because I'm I like Nvidia yeah you know but I I want them to be pressured same thing with Intel you know I would love in a name AMD chips just come out and start rivaling them you know as hard as they possibly could and just push Intel really put the pressure on them because really as far as I'm concerned of course you could disagree with him but I feel like Intel's you know the boss dog right I would love to see but I would love to see them feel stress feel pressure sweat a little bit you know and really have to have to pour into it and especially with Intel like recent leaks man have they got complacent about desktop performance like wow oh yeah we were able to have like way less power requirements and the same performance I'm like you don't realize what I care about in that sentence you said one thing I don't care about at all and then you said one thing that I care about a lot and it's not a good thing yeah like the same performance is not what I'm looking through for so that's super boring not looking to save 10 bucks a year on my electricity yeah rather and like thing with AMD is you can you can often get a really really well performing platform for not very much money at all that's true because like you can get super cheap motherboards we have you're not that expensive CPUs and then overclock the tar out of them and still get a lot of performance but people are gonna lean towards Intel they just do it happens so yeah I don't know that's it's interesting sector but like one thing with computer hardware in general is there hasn't been a ton of stuff to push it really hard lately so a lot of companies are getting quite complacent so I'm excited for the 9000 series graphics cards because they're gonna push Nvidia and when Nvidia gets pushed AMD is gonna get pushed and it's gonna get pretty crazy for graphics cards in the next while because of stuff like Oculus Rift stuff like star citizens coming out where they're like we don't care we're old-school game developers you better have a PC that can run our game we don't care about you if you can and like that's cool for computer hardware because that means they're gonna be pushing really hard and Oculus Rift is kind of doing the same thing it's 3d good luck it's a lot harder to run 3d you need to get some better hardware so hardware companies like Nvidia and AMD are gonna be pushed because when one of them is gonna be able to say we can run this star citizen on Oculus Rift death setup at ok frame rates at the top settings when only one of them can say that the other one's gonna be crapping themselves completely crapping themselves because everyone's gonna go okay I want that setup not I want the other setup so I'm excited excited new benchmark exactly so I remember when EverQuest needed a 3d graphics card everyone was like oh my god now I have to go you know I just bought a new graphics card a year ago you know I'm gonna have to go do that again but that's what the state of gaming was and they're kind of re-bringing that back you know snapbacks are popular again and you know like the 80s look has basically come back well us computer guys we're going back to you we're going back to the point where you know I want to play this new game I have to go buy a new graphics card you know that's kind of where it's coming which is yeah I'm just kind of reiterating what you said but I'm totally cool with that yeah me too I'm excited to actually start benchmarking stuff I'm gonna one of my benchmarks I'm gonna leak something that I haven't even talked to Linus about but I'm doing this so I don't even care but one of my benchmarks is gonna be I'm gonna run star citizen and I'm gonna wear an oculus rift and benchmark it because I want to be able to benchmark realistic situations and people are gonna try stuff like that setup they're gonna try star citizen which is insane and they're gonna try it with oculus rift which is insane and I'm gonna kill graphics cards and it's gonna be fun because I like killing graphics cards and then I get to release numbers and it's gonna be interesting but like this is where we're going and I hope that they're ready and I hope 9000 series is ready because they've already sent that minimum requirements for star citizen is a 460 and they suggest getting once it comes out this is Nvidia side requirements they didn't release both sides I don't think but a 460 and once they're out they suggest getting an 880 or if you can wait long enough a 980 because they're like yeah they're not ready once we have full settings for this game they're not ready and I was like yes and a little bit of a sneak peek for my benchmarks for the hanger module I had a 780 overclocked as high as I can get it without it throttling down and a 3960x overclocked to 4 gigahertz on the bench and there was points in time where I dropped down to 30 FPS and that's before it has all these graphics settings that it's gonna have soon so that's pretty cool apparently we're setting records for the longest stream I was actually just gonna say we can I'm cool to go for a bit I'm used to like the 10 hour 11 hour yeah we're gonna do after that's true that's true we'll do a little bit more twitch questions if they're still good they are still good so we will see some guy James Fleming says are you excited for dying light I'm super excited for dying light that game looks sick it does look super cool did my video on that ever come out can twitch chat answer this on dying light yeah I swear I saw it did it release while we're waiting for that Luke painter at Luke painter saying Dreamcast is still online very excited about it played all the time dial up for days red spot games still make games for it yeah that's really cool I know we talked about a little bit that's really cool I'm gonna have to check into that thanks Luke for tweeting that you know it's it's thanks Luke thanks you as well you know but I know it's that's really cool I had I literally had no idea that there's any company still making games for Dreamcast I think I have a buddy who has one I'm gonna have to Brad I think Brad's got one and we'll have to look into that for sure yeah it's actually pretty crazy do are you are you going to play GTA 5 on consoles or are you done with consoles waiting for PC release I'm not done with consoles I actually personally don't really have anything against consoles I think they fit their own use case I'm just not necessarily a use case that's completely tuned into me I'd like PC gaming more but I have already played GTA 5 on console it's yeah I don't think we have time to go through the gigantic long discussion that is GTA 5 but maybe we can do that on the after party no sponsors messages don't get yourself fired we actually planned it out so I wouldn't have to do that yeah so yeah I don't have to do sponsor messages which is good someone just asked a sues directcu to or AMD 7990 for gaming huh oh 780 those are two very different setups you've got crossfire going on and you've got a single card going on and that's confusing and I'm running away now but I would suggest a single card dying light seems met the market for realistic zombie horror games is oversaturated it's not really like the other ones though so I'm not really sure yeah I think it's still pretty cool it incorporates a lot of different stuff and when you're saying realistic zombie horror games what's coming to my mind first is day z I'm assuming that's not what you're talking about what I would like to say is what is a realistic fictitious event just saying like if it doesn't exist it is theory therefore the realism is subject is it not I understand I understand I'm playing a little bit devil's advocate yeah but I think that's still a correct term is real it is it realistic would be like pertaining to realism and so can that encompass the idea of a possibility so realistic if there were such things on true but then what are the zombies and how do they act slow zombies fast zombies everything used to be slow zombies back in the day as long as we're very slow there now it's the walking dead like they're all soccer players yeah there's just during the day they're fairly they're not a big deal and then that's that's why it's good night good luck because once it hits nighttime they go crazy and I had to go through that and they're nuts they all go crazy and you see them like transform you start walking up to them and there's this like red explosion and they thought it's ridiculous the reason why I like that game is at nighttime it just gets insane and it doesn't get insane because you're like oh I can't see it as much it gets insane because they're all like super demons at nighttime it gets ridiculous it's just it comes out in the same comment as like you know you know this World of Warcraft sword is so not realistic or something like that like I totally understand what he's saying I totally get what he's saying but it's just how else do you phrase it yeah comes down to like maybe it's not the most correct way of saying it but I don't know how else he could yeah anyways are you going to cover the build logs I did I don't know what to say well it's 770 even handle star citizen sure it will man it definitely will 760 handled star citizen quite well it's it's the minimum requirement is a 460 so a 460 will handle star citizen it'll just suck and you'll be on not very good settings that's more what it's about like what I'm saying it's going to push hardware manufacturers is because once you're running an Oculus Rift and once they have more settings available it will start crushing systems and I think once you're running an Oculus Rift the minimum requirements will not be a 460 anymore and because of that I'm going to try and release a new set of system requirements for if you're running an Oculus Rift and star citizen but that will be kind of like around release so I will release that in like 2015 which may not be very relevant right now I'm going to jump down to this one question and then we're probably going to be done I think is it possible to buy a cherry picks 4770k and what do you recommend deleting a 4770k it is possible what you can do is look for your bin number and look for all that kind of stuff and find someone who's already overclocked it and buy from them so you can get pretty much guaranteed overclocking numbers but you're not buying a cherry picked 4770k from an Intel or from a retailer you'll be buying it from someone who owns it already so yeah so it'll be used because you basically have to figure out how well it performs and what I recommend deleting it I don't really recommend deleting anything because the cost to performance gain on that is insane because the cost of you killing your chips is pretty high and very possible so yeah I don't even really know what to say I wouldn't really recommend it but if you're like hey I have some money laying around and I'm thinking about doing a PC upgrade anyways and you want to go a little bit crazy and you are really experienced blah blah blah feel free man go ahead it's cool and there's almost no better chip to do it on because 4770k is gain a lot from deleting but it's it's compliment complicated but yeah I think we're done we're probably I'm really freaking thirsty so I'm going to stop before I leave the office have a drink maybe sit down for a sec and then we're going to rip over to my place and do some after party so we will catch you guys later the after party is going to be on twitch.tv slash luke underscore lafr tell people how they can find you at cold SC on twitter that's pretty much the best way generally when I'm doing my starcraft stuff I'm casting on whose ever channel it is whether it be lancouver got a con or any of the other events that I have covered so there isn't really a way to follow me there but yeah at the twitter is the best way and if you want to add me on facebook I actually have an account and first name is cold last name is SC if you want to add me and as long as you're not BM I'll add you back and yeah thank you guys for watching you know take me here a little nervous to start still a little nervous we'll pretend I'm not but it's it was a lot of fun and yeah we'll see you guys at the after party I kind of want to go relax a little bit so I think the first game will start with his hearthstone if you're down yeah we can start with some hearthstone so we'll probably probably move on from there a little bit thanks for the good show comment guys we'll be back for the after party I will see you guys soon thanks for tuning in see you guys later