 What? Ha! Us! Oh. The new recipe. It's the new configuration. It's gonna get spicy. Of this generation. It will get spicy. We got Savage Jerky. That's a spoiler alert. So yeah, welcome to the WAN Show this week. Hosted by Riley and James. Yeah. Never before seen. Unfortunately. Jesus take the wheel. I'm in charge of running the intro and everything. First time ever. In big trouble. It's gonna be a good show. We got lots of cool news like Discord launching its own game store trying to be all steamy. And new leaks about the Google Pixel 3. Are you as excited as last year? And not only that, but also be careful about what laptop charger you use because it could destroy your laptop. And also another useless augmented reality headset. Don't call it that. Roll the intro. Bam. Yeah. Bam. I love this intro. I hope it never goes away. Is it good? Yeah. Wow. These little people, they represent us today. Little full of himself. I'm short with brown hair and you're tall with darker brown hair. That doesn't even look like Luke. Savage Jerky. Yep. Yeah. Fresh books. Fresh books. My favorite. Fortnite? Heck. What the heck? Okay. All right, we'll get there, I guess. Download Fortnite. I mean, don't. I mean, do it. Yes. Do it now. Get out. Get out now. Okay. I'm only here because Linus and Luke are not available. It's not because this is a permanent thing for everyone who's like, ah, I get Riley out of there. I just wanted to make that clear. Okay. So Wanshoe equals James if not Linus or Luke. Oh, you're putting in the form of an equation? James and Riley. When Linus no Luke. When not equal Linus and Luke. Or there's an XOR we can use. All right. Sure. I don't know equation and talk. It's programming, bro. I'm an artsy guy. I don't know about numbers. I'm a psychologist. Damn it. I died. I took psychology. I have a psychology. I have a psychology degrees. All right. Well, let's start talking about this game stuff then. Psych man, Mr. Scientist Discord. They got a big beta coming out. Part of that beta is a game store. Yeah. This is a, this is a huge deal. This is actually the, um, the thumbnail story on netlinked or tech linked today. But, um, steam came out and was like, Hey, we're going to copy discord's chat chat services. They got like the chat rooms and everything in steam now. So discord was like, Oh yeah. Oh yeah. You want to have just one product. Let's just be, let's just make there just be one product. Yeah. One copycat. No, it's a little different because obviously I think it's a lot easier for steam to copy chat features than it is for a chat platform to copy a library because steam is like a, it's a giant network at the library of games. That's way harder to implement. Yeah. I mean, so, okay. To be fair, let's like go through what is actually happening. So they're rolling out this beta to 50,000 Canadian players. Uh, they'll see. Oh, let me stop you right there. Okay. I had to Google if these guys are, if it is a Canadian company, is discord Canadian? I didn't look it up either. I try. I didn't find anything. I would jump out if they were just assuming they're American. So why are they releasing the Canadian players? I don't is discord Canadian. Does anyone in the chat know? I tried that. I went to their Wikipedia. The Wikipedia didn't even say where they're incorporated or anything. Anyone in the chat know if discord's Canadian? I guess. Yeah. This guy says San Fran. This guy says disco is American. Oh, they're American. So that no based in California. People are saying, yeah, San Francisco. Okay. They're like, seem really, they're just like, oh, we love Canada. Something technical. They got all the look. It's a long time coming. All right. We never get anything first. And this is, we deserve this. I think. Yes. We're so nice all the time for all the times that you watch a keynote and they're like, and we didn't stop there. This is rolling out today. Today two, three States. Yeah. Oh, the worst is when it goes to the UK and Australia before Canada. Oh, we're right here. Yep. It's the French that holds us back. What was that? Dennis is laughing at us. Go away, Dennis. Yeah. Jeez. So I like us too. Dennis, I'm so famous. So they're doing two things to be fair. So it's like, it's, it's a discord store where they're going to have curated games. So not like curated list of games. Yeah. Yeah. It's not going to be like all the big EA games, all the big Ubisoft game. It's like kind of more indie stuff. Like dead cells is on there. I think frost punk, some of those like popular games, but not huge. So they're going to have a store. It's supposed to be like really personalized. Like when you click on it, there's a little description of the game that's written by a employee of discord that kind of gives their own little, I like this game. Right. Ooh. It's like artisanal artisanal games. Oh yeah. That's it. This was handcrafted by tiny children in Venezuela when I was just a boy. I spent many hours. Okay. Here's that. And then they also are adding like a subscription game type thing, like a Netflix for games type service to Nitro, which is there already existing subscription service. Yeah. So Nitro is just basically a way for people to just support discord and like donate to them. It's kind of like Patreon. You're mostly there to give them money, but in exchange you get some perks, like being able to have a video or a GIF as your avatar and stuff like that. This new Netflix of games is just another perk really. Right. It's a pretty BA perk. Yeah. I think it's not bad. It's Imba. It's Imba. Do you even play games? Imba? Like MBA? Imbalanced. Imba? I-M-B-A. I do play games. I play games? No, I do, but I've never encountered that before. I mean, I'm not like super in- Maybe it's a dark horse. I'm not like super in- I'm not like super in- I'm not like super in- I'm not like super in- I'm not like super in- I'm not like super in- No, it's an RTS thing. No, it's a shooter thing. Am I a fool for not knowing what Imba means? Strawpool. I know OP. I know nerfing. I know- Imba's like the opposite of nerfing. When something's Imba, it gets nerfed. It's OP. Overpowered? You all like, okay, it's more general. OP is more- Yeah, you're correct about that. It's like Riley is a what girl? What's Ligma? See what is Imba? People, I think OP is more, who's the gamer boy now? Gamer boys and girls sound off. All right. One thing that they're gonna have is first on Discord games. So these are gonna be indie games that Discord helps develop. They have some kind of stake in them. And then they're gonna appear on the Discord game store first for 90 days, usually, before getting widely released to all the other platforms, everything like that. So that's kind of cool. They're like kind of incubating some indie games that maybe wouldn't have as much of an initial reach. Yeah, it sounds like they want to get some of that sweet Steam-esque money, that Game Store money, but they also want to differentiate their service by being high touch, artisanal. I don't know how to say it. Artisanal. Artisanal. It's artisanal. That sounds wrong. It feels so good. Okay, so they're also doing, because Discord is kind of... One of the things that like, and this is an indicator of this, one of the things that Discord seems to have been trying to do is kind of be the hub for PC gamers. Like, hey, it shows what your friends are playing. It has all these chat rooms that you might be interested in. You can play music on there and people will know what you're playing and stuff. So they want to be like the one-stop shop. You turn on your PC, you're gonna do some gaming, you open Discord, and this thing is leaning towards that. They're adding a universal library. So they want you to launch your games through Steam now, even. That is a crucial feature. Through Discord. How annoying is it to have to open up Epic Games Launcher, Origin, Steam, like a different launcher, Battle.net, just to launch whatever game you want to play at that moment. So Discord's gonna have a feature where it can scan your PC if you let it to detect all the games that you have installed and then you can launch them from the Discord thing. What it's gonna do is it'll launch Steam and then launch the game. But at least it's just one thing to click on. At least you can have your... I mean, I think the Windows tries to do that with the Xbox app. I think you can do that in the Xbox app that's built in. But no one wants to use that because it's Xbox. So good luck, Discord. Power to you. Be better than Microsoft. Cheers. Cheers, bud. This one's for you. Yeah, thanks, Johnners, for posting this, by the way. There's the forum post. Don't forget, all this stuff comes from the forum. Love you, Johnners. Yes. Well, I can't put it as a sub story for that. Followed 76 won't be on Steam, but maybe that doesn't really fit in there. Okay, so what's going on with the Pixel 3 leaks? It's been ongoing. Yeah, they've been... Well, it's kind of like the... Man, it's kind of like the Nvidia leaks right now. It's just so irritating how many of they are, especially for you and I, who are going through all of the tech news. We go through every tech news story, basically, trying to find the ones we need to talk about. And there's Google Pixel leaks, Nvidia leaks, every other story. It's like, stop it. And the most annoying thing is knowing how they vary week to week because the nature of publishing online is like, well, I need to write 15 articles today. So any tiny minute change in the state of things is worth a new article. So even if it doesn't give you new information, like let's say this week we learned there's a notch or there's a leak that there's a notch. And then next week, well, now it's confirmed that there's a notch. Well, we already knew there was going to be a notch, but now it's like more official. Man, I hate the notch. My first notes that I wrote in here are why is there a notch? It literally says, why is the notch so big? That's the only... That's the talking point. Why are notches a thing? So we've only seen the Google Pixel 3 XL. So basically, okay, so what have we seen? It's all glass. There's no headphone jack. Two front facing cameras because of the notch, obviously. One rear facing back camera, not two like every other phone right now. Oh, so they want Bokeh on the front. Yeah, but not on the back. And they'll just use AI on the back. It's not important apparently. They also got the fingerprint reader on the back. It's got 2960 by 4040 display, four gigs of RAM, and most likely a Snapdragon 845. I would hope so. That's not confirmed yet. And then also in the leaks that we... Do you want to bring them up? Do you want me to click on that? Well, do you bring things up? Yeah, we bring stuff up. Do you bring things up so people can look at it? What do you want me to bring up? I've never been on it. The R's article? Or you posted these... Yeah, the R's one, man. Boom. Yeah, just give them a little something something. Here it is, people. That's the screen. We saw... So for the people talking about case labs, we did just see that literally as we sat down. So we don't really have any details of that, but we will talk about it at some point. I'm going to click through this little slideshow. Yeah, someone's like, no 3.5 millimeter jack in a notch. Count me out. Tell me. You can say that again, big guy. Good, great. You know, I'm actually more angry. I don't mind the notch. I'm more angry about headphone jack. And you see the thing is... See, this is like everything that I don't want in a phone. I want a headphone jack. I don't want a notch. You want front firing dual stereo speakers? Oh, yeah. Because that's what a lot of people say. I don't care about thin bezels. Give me speakers on the front pointing at me. And I don't care about that at all. I don't give a rat's patootie about speakers on the front. Guys, the best speakers you could ever put in a phone are still going to suck. I'm using headphones. I think it's obnoxious when people are in public listening to things on their phone. I hate it even when my wife's phone makes noise because she's watching a snapchat or something and I'm just like, I just hate it. I'm never using those speakers. That's true. I think that was like... I think one company put it on HTC, I think, with one of their one phones, like the M6 or M7 or something, had front facing speakers. And everyone was like, Whoa, front facing speakers are so cool. So then since then, people have been like, oh, front facing speakers are a good thing. But I'm with you, man. Screw that. I think it's like people like it on paper or something like that. It makes them feel more techie or something. I don't know. I want no bezels. I want the full screen. Now the question... See, I don't care about that either. It just looks so much cooler. I'm really like, I don't care what my phone looks like. I'm going to slap a case on it either way. So... See, I run nude. Oh, really? Totally nude. The first thing I do every time I get a phone is I buy an Otterbox or something, or Spigen. I don't know. I used to do that. And then I would drop my phone tens of times a day, follow my pocket when I'm on motorcycle around a concrete all the time I'm dropping it. Yeah, that's what I do. If I intentionally throw this around. Yes. Because I can. Exactly. If you get a new phone... It's gone. I just did it. Sweet baby Jesus. I'm crazy, man. If you get a new phone and you're already going to treat it nicer because it's new, and you're like, okay, it's naked. I'm just going to treat it good. I'm going to make sure every time I reach down to my pocket that it's in the pocket before I let it go. And you just get these new habits. I've dropped this thing like twice. And one of those times is because I was in the movie theater and just fell out of my pocket. Since then, I got a skin on it. It's grippier. See, I'm just... Okay, this is like a discussion for another time. But what's the point of not putting a case on? And then I might as well put a case on and avoid a future where my phone cracks and I have to get another phone because I didn't want to spend 40 bucks on a really good case. It's not about the money. It's the bulk. You don't even have to spend 40 bucks. You can go to the night market and get one for like $6 or something. Anyways. Look, okay, stop. Stop it. Don't touch me. So this one comes with... Well, apparently the leak, there's Pixel Buds, a USB... So that's like a... Appears to be a wired version, USB-C version of the Pixel, like the wireless Pixel Bud. Yeah, that'll be interesting. I wonder if they're going to be capacitive. Capacitative? Capacitive? Touch sensitive? Touch sensitive? I want to be... You know, like on the Pixel Buds, you can hold down on it and hail the Google Assistant with very low latency. That'd be great if they had that included on these. One thing that I thought was interesting is there's a D33P on the forums put a video, like a new video of the Pixel 3 XL, like just now or an hour ago or something. And it shows that there's a volume rocker and a power button on the right side, no buttons on the left side. So I don't know what... They're wasting that space. Maybe this is like an entry-level or something. What do they have before? I don't know. Get that Pixel over here. Well, I'm sure you can still squeeze it, right? Yeah, they're probably going to have that squeezable thing. That's a pretty deep notch. But you know what? So is the iPhone X. The iPhone X is a wider notch than a lot of the other Chinese phones. I really hope the Pixel... Because I need a new phone. I'm still rocking a Galaxy S6 here, guys and gals. Don't tell people that. Why? It's been a while. You do this to embarrass people? That's why I can throw it around also. It's because it's got a case and I don't care about it. So I wanted to get the Pixel 2, but they're releasing a new one soon. So I really hope that it doesn't have a notch. You see, I really want a Pixel 3 small version, the regular one, but it's probably not going to have a notch and it's going to have two front-facing speakers instead of sweet bezels. Like the form factor of the S9, like the edge display, it's very thin bezel on the top and bottom. I don't think that was just a Pixel though. I don't want a Samsung. I don't even like the edge. Anyways, you know what? This is not important. Is it? We're done. We're not even talking about the story anymore. We're just rambling. We're just ranting. Okay, well, that was the story. Ranting's okay, right? This is the rant show. On the last one, I think Luke and Linus just like ranted for like 10 minutes, didn't they? Once someone came up to me at LTX and was like, you know what I like about you on the rant show is you keep people on task, on top of it. You're doing the opposite right now. Well you might still be doing better than Linus. Oh, that's the other thing. It's got four gigs of RAM and people are like four gigs isn't enough in 2018 for a phone? Yeah, OnePlus has had those. It could be enough. I have no idea because I have a super old phone once again. So guess what happened in the UK? They changed the law and it turns out people were buying internet and- What? Did you skip one? I rolled down. Why not? I don't want to. Okay, fine. So there was a law in the UK that if you were a provider of internet, you could advertise speeds that weren't realistic. Best possible scenario. They were like, as long as those speeds were actually deliverable to 10% of your user base, you could advertise them. So you might be able to say like 17 megabits a second, but only like most people were getting 10. So the law changed, it was involved in like a suite of laws that came into play like in May, but it's just, I don't know, some research has been done recently to see how that affected all the different providers there. And like 12 of the biggest providers who were all just names they've never seen before, Zen internet plus net. I know about sky. John Lewis broadband. John Lewis broadband. That sounds so British. Yeah, exactly. Subscribe now, John Lewis broadband. Is that bad? Yes. I can do British. We're not, this isn't our car ride home. We can't talk about this kind of stuff. So the way that the law changed was instead of it, instead of the advertised speed only applying to at least 10%, it has to be at least 50% of users during peak times. So yeah, a lot of them had to reduce their advertised speeds by like 40 or 50%. So now if it's, if you advertise 17 megabit per second, you have to advertise 10 or 11. So like the speeds that they're advertising just like drop ridiculously. Yeah. Like the poster from last year is like, Oh, new super LT four gen blah, blah, 41% drop on average. Like that's what you're bringing the, bring the thing up. No, don't they want to see this? Well, it's not like a chart. It's just like embedded in text. I saw, I saw a screenshot of like the new, is that what it is of the new, um, like speeds and they're like ridiculous. It's like, sign up for our lowest tier and get like 10 megabits per second. Oh my goodness. Well, well, hold on. Let me personally answer this. So this is why you don't bring up the things I say. No, just cause it takes less cognitive load. Here we go. I'm okay. I'm really sorry that I said anything. That's a big mistake. This is bad. This isn't even the thing at all. I want to look at this. Here's some stock photos. She's like, huh, is that slower or faster? Anyways, the good thing about this is I hate when there's things in your life that are like, Oh yeah, that's what it says. But day to day you don't get those speeds. Like, Oh, you're so naive. You haven't, you haven't learned the ropes that even though it says 17, you're never going to get that. No one gets that. I hate that. I hate that stuff. See, but like, this is what I'm confused about. Cause here in Canada, I signed up for a 30. Well, now I have 80, but when I said, why? Okay. So I have 88 megabits per second down. Okay. It's nothing fancy, but like when I do a speed test, if I don't get 76 at least I'm like, well, thanks going on. So how do these people like advertise, Hey, you can get 50 and they're really getting like 12. How is that? Okay. Yes. That's what, cause there's a little asterisk that says like during the deadest time, I mean, it's like your miles per gallon on a highway with the wind that you're back. It's like, if no one else is online and you've got a pure platinum cable, yeah. Hard lined in, you'll be good to go straightest cable. Is this still a cable if it's not flexible? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Technology, man. All right. So they were all, but the deal is that they were paying for that speed, but now they, do they pay less now because no, no, no. Well the thing is it's all relative anyway, cause it's all just based on the competition. There's also different providers. They're all probably providing the same speeds at the lowest prices they can. Yeah. What are you laughing at? Sorry. Somebody said, Oh, 80 megabytes. It's not 88 megabits for a second. I have 80 and that's only after I got like an upgrade offer. I had 30 before and I said 80. That's nothing fancy. And people were like, Oh, nothing fancy. I'm sitting here with 10 and I'm like, that also sucks. I'm really sorry. There's someone in Korea. It's like, dude, equals MC squared, dude. We're flying over here. Yeah. We don't even use numbers. I didn't hear that Korea has like crazy fast internet. I get 171. Okay. What do you want? Some money? What do you want? Good for you. Yeah. Send some internet over here. How about, yeah. What about us? I'm sitting with 0.05. I'm really sorry about that. I want to know about this magic leap. Let me tell you about magic leap. James. What's your name? James. Yeah, that's it. Is it a little background? Magic leap has been teasing the sickest technology for years. Oh my gosh. It's got these videos where you just put on these glasses and suddenly you have this super high resolution mixed reality objects in front of you like whales splashing. Let us know in the chat if you saw any of those like concept videos from like 2015 and stuff because they were ridiculous. There was the hype for this company was through the roof. The investor commitment, the millions of dollars they earned. And then in the recent months, they teased an actual physical implementation of like what these things look like. They have these like steampunk look to them. I'm going to pull that up for everybody. Yeah. They still kind of look like they're like a steampunky thing. They got the really round lenses and stuff. Holo lens is like a, I feel like it lies to you a little bit less than the Holo lens in terms of physical design because Holo lens has the big visor, but really all you can see is like this little rectangular area. I mean, that's technically Holo. Is it? No. But, but these ones at least are like, okay, look, this is what you're going to be able to see. But even. Yeah. They're like that. But even with this, the round area is only a fraction or the, it's only a fraction of that round area that you can actually see the hologram. Get out of town. Yeah. Yeah. Get out of town. It's still like a little, this isn't, you can't see all of that. It's like this little. It's like a little rectangular area within the circular area again. So lame. So yeah, I've been following this since 2014. That's basically our set. Yeah. All right. They're really copying us. I'm getting out of here. 2014 was the first, I looked up the old script that I did for the NCIX new show to Netlinked. Okay. I did in 2014. That was when we reported on it, fall of 2014. And like Google put $500 million of funding into the company. And then over the years, they got more and more. I think the, their most recent estimate, like a year ago or something was $4.5 billion was the estimated value of this company. So the hype was like crazy. And so, oh, and that's the other thing. They said they were using this like light field tech that is not just like putting light onto a screen. They said they were going to shoot light directly into your retinas. Yeah. Yeah. You, you, you saw that? I like that. You're into that? The sun's doing it. I love that. I love light field tech. It's like field tech, but light. Yeah. But no, that's not what it is. They come out with it. It's basically a HoloLens. It's basically the same thing as a HoloLens. They released the Magic Leap 1 Creator Edition. It's like the developer version, $2,295, which I think is not that far off from what the HoloLens was when they released the developer version. Google Glass was $1,500. Right. And I think HoloLens was around there. I did. Let me know in the chat if you know how much HoloLens was, because I don't remember, but I know it was expensive. I'm not Googling it. You guys tell me. So we don't, I haven't tried it, but from the people who have tried it on the internet. It's whack. Well, it's not terrible. That's the thing. That's the thing that's disappointing about it. Like if it was like terrible, terrible, it'd be like, oh, look at that. But it's like, it's basically like the HoloLens. Like people were saying like, it's maybe, maybe a little bit better than HoloLens, but not much. And then add on the fact that they don't even have any of like the software there for like, because you know, HoloLens is, they're trying to integrate it into Windows and stuff. Right. Microsoft is like software is their thing. Yeah. Like on day one, I can take my Excel spreadsheet, grab it with my hands like Tom Cruise and move it over here. And the only official experiences available for this right now is, well, the only ones that I found, there might be more, but the only ones that I found were like a Sigur Rós music experience type thing. All right. We'll play Sigur Rós music. Play that a couple of times. The Icelandic band. Oh yeah. Sigur Rós. Sigur Rós. I'm not going to pretend to be Icelandic, but I've heard Icelandic people say it. Sigur Rós. Sigur Rós. Sigur Rós. I'm just picturing you like you basically have hooves. That's gotta be. And like goat legs. Any Icelandic, any Icelandic people. Sigur Rós. Sigur Rós. You're, you're turning into an old Italian lady. I'm doing it. No, no, it's doing Sigur Rós. No, I'm trying to do like a little bit like a, you know, like a Bjork. Is Bjork Icelandic? Yeah. She kind of has the voice like this. It's like a little elf. That's kind of Dutch. Sigur Rós. All right. Anyways, they have a Sigur Rós experience where it's like a music equalizer thing, not equalizer, visualizer. And then they have like a project create, which is like, it's like a, it's like Minecraft or like these other, you know, those games that are like, let you make games in the game. Dreams was one of them, I think. You can play God. Yeah. Yeah, basically. So they have that. So you can like play around with things. You can bake castles. There's little knights that are run around. You can like make like circuits and stuff. But like, other than that, what's the point? What's the point? You know? Well, and you also have to wear a little computer. Oh yeah. It's got the Googles and the Googles. The Googles and the poodles. You've got the Googles and poodles and the schnoodles and then you're set. Yeah. That's a hard reveal to, hey, when they're like, oh yeah, it's not just these giant goggles. You also have to wear this soup. Like it's basically a disc man. A disc man. Yeah. A walkman. That's the joke I made on Twitter when they first revealed it. I made a disc man joke. 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If he goes to jail soon and the stock price totally tanks, you'll know why. So I didn't understand this really. So he tweeted that he might take Tesla private. Might take Tesla private funding securities, what he wrote. Right. So wait, do we need to tell people what private and public companies mean? I don't really understand that. Okay. When you start a company? I mean, I understand that you go on the stock exchange. Basically it's like anytime anyone starts a company, it's a private company. It's owned by the people who start the company. Yeah, and that's it. When they get really big, it's usually because they want to fundraise, they make the company public, which means that anyone can buy ownership of that company and that's what a share is. So instead of me and you owning James Riley Corp, suddenly thousands of people can own it and because they all buy pieces of it, we get a lot of money. No, I don't want other people to share in the special relationship you and I have. That's right, because if they do, then you're beholden to them. So a public company that has shareholders, they have to serve the shareholders. The shareholders are represented by the board and every week the board is trying to make you hit targets so you can make more money for the shareholders and all these annoying things that are really bothering Elon Musk. So he would like to take Tesla back from being public. I think it's called a leverage buyout. When you were public and then you're like, no, we're just going to buy all the shares back from everybody and we'll be private again, just like SpaceX is. So what he claimed in this tweet was that, hey guys, I found someone with enough money to buy all the shares back from you at a stock like a share price of $420 and at that moment – $420? Am I right? The stock price at that time was only $340. So if that news was true, then that means that the share I hold that's worth $340 is soon going to be worth $420. So a lot of people were like, whoa, I need to buy shares before that transaction happens because as long as I buy those shares while they're worth less than $420, I'm going to profit. But then once he tweets it, the shares go up and then it's too late. So if he makes a tweet like that, he has to – there's the SEC, which is the – what are they called? The Securities Financial – The Federal Communications. What? What? FCC? The Securities Exchange Commission. Commission. Council. Try them for it. So you're allowed to say that you're going to do that as long as it's true. If he – if he actually does have a backer that was actually going to follow through, they've been in talks, there's someone who has the money to do this, he's allowed to share that information with shareholders. He's even allowed to tweet about it as long as he tells the shareholders beforehand. Right. As long as that's all true because if it's not true, then obviously every other week, Elon could be like, yeah, someone's going to buy it for about $6 million a share. And then the share goes – and then the stock price – and at that point, he's just manipulating the markets. Yeah. So after he tweeted that, now there's an investigation into whether or not it's true. And you can tell from the stock price right now that there's not a lot of confidence that it is true. Because when you first made the tweet, we went from $340 up to about $380, at which point my accounting friends were like, dude, you should sell right now if you have Tesla because there's no way this is real and it's just going to crash. And that's exactly what happened. It went up to $380 and now it's back down to $350 because people think he's just BS-ing. And you didn't sell. Well, if I do have Tesla stock. Oh, you can't tell people that you sold it? You can't tell people? I think I can tell people. It's not a confident interest. I don't know. You were giving me this look like you can't tell people. No, you can tell people. Do you guys want to know? I don't know about Tesla stock, not a lot. It's just because I like Tesla. Fancy boy. Ooh, he's a stock market guy over here. Okay, here's the thing. I hated reading all the tech news about all my favorite companies and they're doing cool things and the stock price is going up and you're just not a part of it. So it makes everything more fun when you're kind of just a part of it. And then you just do stocks because you feel like you're closer to Mr. Musk. You're kind of your role model. Maybe role model. How do you think Grimes feels about that? I like Grimes. I've seen her live. I support a partner. What? I see her live. Her name is she changed her name to see like the letter like the light speed of light constant. Oh, yeah. So always a capital. Okay. So do you think? Well I hope that I hope that he that he did let the shareholders know because if he did isn't that is it how big of a deal if it if they is it going to be if they find out that he did like screw up. It's bad. Like if he just did it just willy nilly. Yeah, it's pretty bad. Not only is the share price the stock price will tank to prop to sub 300 for sure. I think you can like it's fraud or something like that. Like you might even go to jail. Elon Musk in jail. Wow. He'd find a way. He'd find a way out. Yeah. The boring company just digs him out. Okay. That's what the boring company is for. You're going to dig me out. He started it. He started the boring company because he knew he would pull something like the tunnel is going to go from my cell underwater to a floating autonomous barge while I launch on a Falcon Heavy to Mars. They'll never catch me. He'll go from the real life Iron Man to like the real life super villain. I don't know what's what's the super villain version of Iron Man. Lex Luthor. Yeah, there you go. He'll be losing his hair. That's right. All right. So do you think he's he's not a dummy. He knows finance and stuff. We may be witnessing the birth of the first real life super villain. That would be so fitting because everyone thought he's kind of like a superhero. So he'd be like this fallen angel type. Oh my gosh. By stock now. He does seem pretty unstable on Twitter sometimes. This is not what this podcast is about. He called that guy a pervy guy. Who? A pedo dude. That guy in Thailand. That was the first time that like. Leave your comments yourself, pedo dude. I was like, Elon, what are you doing? Yeah, I felt like like Padme. He was breaking my heart. Elon, what? Stop. You're breaking my heart. From my point of view, the SEC is evil. I killed them Bezos. Yeah, I'm on the ball now. I really wish I think in the future we can use blockchain technology to invest not only in companies, but in people. Sorry. Somebody just put in the chat. You are the chosen one. Yeah, nice one. OK, sorry. What do you think? If you can invest in people, that'd be so dope. Like if everyone had their own crypto, like coin. Invest in people. Yeah, like so OK. So Elon, Elon gets with Grimes, right? He starts dating Grimes. Yeah. People are like, well, Grimes value is about to go up. Like she's trending. I buy Grimes coin and then like Grimes is super popular because she's now by proxy, like more famous than she was, she gets like record deals and TV deals. So she's worth more money. So their coin goes up and I own that Grime coin. I don't want to live in that world. You're saying you wouldn't buy James coin? No, I'd buy James coin because I laser coin. I believe in you. Thank you. Yeah. All right. But I don't want to. What do you call your coin? Putting you on the spot here. Compute compute. Riley Bucks. Good one. I'm not good with the with the puns as I've discovered after being here for some time. What's this wrong thing? Oh, roms. Oh, I know about those. Yeah. Pull it up. I'm going to put up the forum thing. Oh, didn't they do something like this in Black Mirror? They did with the. Do you watch Black Mirror? I've seen every episode. I love Black Mirror. The one where it's Bryce Dallas Howard and she's it's the where you rate your friends on social media. Oh, episode one of season three. That's well. Or is that season four? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Is that season four or the four season? I think that's the first one that was on Netflix. Season three, season three. That's a pretty good episode. They didn't. There's no investing in people in that, but you do like kind of you have ratings and you go up and down and stuff. Yeah. Thank you to Technicolor for posting this to the forum. Oh, what? The roms. Yeah, I don't. Where is it? I'm see roms. Are roms over? Is it a rompocalypse? She's I know it was a pun. I don't know what you're talking about yet. So do you guys know what roms are? They can't you can't reply. So roms are basically like the game file for games when you run in an emulator. So if you're running like a GameCube or a Wii emulator on your PC, the rom is what you need to load in there so you can play the game. There are all sorts of rom sites on the web and they're in kind of like a oh, that was a bad analogy to make but they're under fire. Okay. All right. So Nintendo just recently filed lawsuits against two huge emulator sites love retro and love roms. We reported on this in tech linked. They sued them for $150 per game $150,000 per game per game and $2 million per trademark. Oh, like every so you like $2 million for Zelda. Smash bros counts as one covers all of them. Yeah, no, it doesn't. That's the thing. So like just a massive amount of money we're talking here to like independently run websites by people who are just trying to like keep these games alive, right? Like you download them for free. They get ad probably revenue from like hosting them and stuff, but they're making money for sure. Yeah, they're making money on this site. But like, you know, they're not making money on the games per se. But anyways, so you please tell me that like it's one thing to smash these people into oblivion and offer an alternative. Yeah. But if you don't, it's like when they're yelling at people for torrenting Game of Thrones, but then there's no nice way to watch Game of Thrones HBO. Yeah, there wasn't exactly for a while. So you're about to tell me that Nintendo has an awesome store of classics or something like that. Well, that's the thing. They haven't launched the virtual. So for a lot of their consoles in the past, they launched a virtual console and you can just go on there like for the Wii or the GameCube or one they don't have a really game cube. For the Wii U, you go or the Wii, you go on there and then you go to the virtual console and you can download all of these old games and play old retro games on your current console. But they haven't launched that for the Switch yet. And there's a ton of things that aren't on the virtual console. So that's what these ROM sites that's the that's the service they provide. So the big news here is that another site, Emu Paradise Paradise for emulators, not the bird. OK, that would be silly. Yeah. They just stopped. They said they're going to stop hosting ROMs. So I guess maybe they'll still have stuff about emulation. I don't know. I don't know whether they're still like continuing to go with just without ROMs or not, but they're stopping hosting ROMs because I mean, they didn't say specifically that they're doing it because of these lawsuits. But the implication is that they want to avoid a similar fate. So and apparently they were one of the few places on the Internet that were not plagued by pop ups and glitches and all this stuff, because you can go and get ROMs on the Internet. But you know, we can't have nice things. There's no guarantee that the site that you're going to go to isn't just like a trap and it's just like loading malware and stuff. Nothing gold can stay. Didn't I read that the virtual console on the Switch is going to cost money? You read that? I think I read that. I haven't seen that scrolled past that headline. I think it's going to cost money. Well, I mean, you buy the games. OK. I don't I didn't have a Wii or Wii U. My parents had a Wii. I actually would rather was a subscription than buying the games. I think. Hey, put us in put in the chat. Do you know if you have to pay in previous consoles to access the virtual console? I'm pretty sure you can. You have to buy the games on the virtual console. OK. In order to play them. So that's because with old games, I'd rather just try them all. I'd rather a subscription option because some of them might suck. And I want to play for like 20 minutes like the old games on the virtual like just old Super Nintendo games and stuff. Yeah. See, for me, I'm not like I didn't the first the first console I had was an N64. So I played very little of the NES and SNES SNES SNES. Yeah. See, now this is the thing. They don't have the virtual console, but they have the NES mini and the NES classic edition or whatever. That's NES classic edition. So are they going to release like the N64 classic edition? Probably. And so on and so on. I want a tiny, tiny GameCube. The miniest of discs. Would that be OK, though? You know, because I don't want to buy that. Why? OK, if they released an N64 mini and it was like a little. And I wanted to play N64 games. Yeah, I would buy it. Like most of the time, I feel like a lot of people are running things, you know, they want to have it up there as like a backup or because it's not available on other services. So like, what about old like what about Wii games that you can't play on Switch right now? You know, like, I don't know. I think Nintendo should have before they do this kind of stuff, they should have some sort of service. Yeah. Yeah. I think if they if they crush these sites before the product launch, then their product launch is more compelling. So oh, this is a good this is a good what's the name? ZR Gaming just said in the chat, I forgot to mention this, the NES mini, the classic editions that they launched actually like they took some of them apart and one of them was actually running like hacked ROMs. Whatever it takes. I have a Nintendo model and it was like running an emulator and ROMs. Just like so it's a little hypocritical Nintendo. Huh? Okay. So get your get your stuff straight. Let's go home. What is that it? Yeah. One more thing I wanted to say is is ROM emulation morally good? Morally? Is is objective morality a physical truth? A physical truth is well, I found the morality here. There. Bam. Well, got it. What? What? And that's it? There's no many more. There's no more topics. That's it. That's all. Thanks for tuning into the WAN show this week, guys. What about the if you're still here, thank you for giving us a chance even though we're not looking at Linus. How long does this show go? It's like an hour. It's like an hour show. You have you just want to you just you want more. I just want to stay here. Okay. How about this then? Fine. Has anyone ever done this on the show? Some men just want to watch the world burn. Yeah, sorry, guys. Okay. Yeah, we're not going to talk about another topic, right? All right. Thanks for tuning in, guys. We'll see you next week. Yeah. Love you so much. Same. Sorry, I'm not Linus. Bat time. Same. Around the same bat time. Bat channel. 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