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We're talking about People not knowing that they're talking to AI Yes, just a surprising amount of sophistication from Google duplex, but we'll talk about that later Google blew everyone's collective mind at their I.O. conference earlier this weekend We're also gonna talk about Boston Dynamics is kicking ass in the other part of robot futures. Yeah embodied part Oh my put them together, and it can talk and move Also, Nintendo has shared some details about its switch online service Which is coolio and rumors about the iPhone 10 plus sized version of the future this fall The big one the big 10. I thought it was already pretty big. No, we'll talk about that. Okay. I'm not really into the whatever Whoo Can you see his feet? When he's in the boat when he's in the boat. Yeah, okay. Let's uh, huh? Again, no, not really kind of that though the one leg you can you can see is yeah You can see the side of his leg. You can't see his feet though You can there One of the best like Mario spring noise, that's my best sound I can do that's pretty epic I Really wish I could do the tube spectrum Savage jerky and Linus isn't here. Haha. Also gonna eat all the maple bacon fresh book Just reset this And then go back to here Yes, we're bad at it. How's it going everyone? I don't know the twitch chat open which makes you feel Strange I'm gonna fix that I Want to let's just get right into Google duplexes. I think that was the coolest thing I've seen at least all year. I think Okay, let's just assume that no one our sources and SC to Mitch on the form is it SC to Mitch? Yeah, and I assume that stands for Starcraft to you. I've just always assumed I'm gonna go with it I like it. I feel like I've I've I've been told what it's stood for before but I don't remember but I'm gonna go with Starcraft. Yeah. Yeah Anyways, I will never trust anyone on the phone that goes uh-huh. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That's it. Yeah. Yeah So at Google I oh which is their conference every year for developers as opposed to the made by Google hardware event in the fall Which is for consumer products at Google I oh this week. They were showing off all the new feature tech that they're doing It's it's way beyond Android now. And one of the things they showed is a future service That's gonna be rolling out later this year that they call what the hell Why does something weird happen like out there every time we're on this thing to us, yeah They're calling it Google duplex and the idea here is that in the future Google is gonna help you get stuff done That's the Google Assistant's job And one of those things that you need to get done a lot of the time is making a phone call to book reservations at a restaurant or book a hair appointment or something like that and these are the two examples they showed so Sundar puts up on the screen behind him a real recording of a real call and I expect that they did 100 calls I expect that they did hundreds or thousands of these calls and they probably cherry-picked and it seemed like there was the the person that Picked up the phone was the same person on like a few of them that I heard Oh, there's more than just the two he demoed. There's more calls you can listen to I think I heard three But I could be really not remembering accurately again We've got a similar short-term memory loss situation at least two for sure. I heard one where it was a guy calling in Yeah, and I to a Chinese girl calling in to something a hair appointment or something Those are the ones falling for my client. Yeah, that's what he demoed. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, so On the screen we just see kind of a visualization of a phone call You get a little the Google Assistant logo representing the robot or the AI and then just like a phone logo representing the person and The person answers the phone and says, you know, this is the hair salon. How can I help you? And then you hear this impeccably human sounding voice on the other side I'm saying hey I'm calling on behalf of a client and I'm looking to book a hair appointment and then a conversation ensues and The result of which is a hair appointment is booked And then I guess the user's phone would receive a notification that says you have got a hair appointment. So you can just be like Hey assistant book me a hair appointment at this place for this time or between this time between 10 and 12 on Friday And then a few minutes later, you're gonna get notifications. Those. Yep, that's done Yeah Someone in chat said Luke is skeptical as usual. I think it will work as advertised service people stick to a script I am skeptical, but I think it will usually work because of what you just said Yeah, usually when you're calling into a restaurant, there's a fairly formulaic way, right? You would book a reservation that is absolutely true, right? It's not even necessarily that they stick to a script It's just there's fairly basic and for me information that needs to be passed back and forth and it's not that complicated to for that's right So that kind of that kind of feeds into how the voice sounds because it sounds really realistic It sounds more realistic than the Google assistant voice. It even sounds more Realistic than the Google assistant voice using wave net, which is another thing they announced at IO wave net which was a system that Was outlined in a paper by Google's deep mind like 18 months ago was finally being integrated into the Google assistant So this is just taking in raw waveforms and and making your phonemes based on that It makes the Google assistants voice way better They demoed that and it still wasn't as good as what we hear on duplex which makes me think that what we hear on duplex For the most part is pre-recorded sound bites. You can hear it sounds a little inhuman When they say numbers and dates and times because that's kind of lightly that's kind of turnkey They plug that in yeah but the reason they would be able to use pre-recorded sound bites is because the possible set of interactions is much Decreased when you're in this kind of scenario where like you just need to do this one thing and a lot of it is like Let me check that for you Or would you mind going on hold for a second or something like that where you just need to like confirm? So the amount of times that's why I keep on saying that mm-hmm thing because the amount of time and that's all you really need To say on the phone, and that's often all you really say on the phone, but the amount of time The amount of times that the AI says it and does it very believingly very believably believably Yeah, and like it's it's it's really good the one thing that I noticed was there's like a slight delay like a Little bit more than I feel like most people would take before they say something But not very much and I think to counteract that like they programmed in some delay like when you answer the phone and say hello They program in a wait a bit because no one just goes hello. Hello. Yeah, yeah, wait a second, right? And I might have been paying I might have been trying to look for it. They also programmed in um's I mean, there's gonna be some processing time to right? Yeah Really cool. So the reason that they can do that is because when I'm talking to my Google Assistant I could say anything to it and it has to be able to respond but as this user understates In this situation, not only is the computer basically performing a script a narrow set of actions are possible actions But so is a human because the human on the other end is just trying to get some basic information from you Someone's calling in what time do they want to come how many people? Everyone's complaining about the contrast. I'm trying to fix it, but I'm really bad. I like that. It's like an Instagram filter I'm a really bad at this I'm a really bad at doing anything related to this at all. So how brittle do you think this system is gonna be when it launches? That's everyone's first complaint. Like what if someone just says enjoying the weather we're having and it doesn't know what that means Yeah, like if they need to do something that was trying to carry on small talk. Yeah Honestly, there might be some stuff set in I wouldn't be too surprised if there's some stuff set in To like basically cut those conversations off by just using the Mm-hmm. Yeah enjoying the weather we're having. Mm-hmm Well, another difference is that during the demo the assistant never announces itself as such it never says Hey, you're talking to a robot and a lot of people got pretty angry about that But Google has since the demo promised that when it rolls out it will announce itself as as a virtual assistant So then you're not even gonna have those problems because You know, you're talking to a person, but you're not just gonna hang up like you're not gonna be able to do that You're not just gonna hang up like you or me might when we answer our phone and there's a robot there Because it's business and you don't want to lose that business you want that appointment to get made Most well most businesses probably wouldn't hang out Yeah, I know I completely agree because you want the business, but I think it's I think it's I Didn't know that it was gonna announce That's a new development. Okay Because I feel like now if I was a business if I had a text version, I would just want that. Oh You mean like if there's just an online web form. Yeah. Yeah, I would rather that Google just filled that out Well, well you would have to pay for that though. You have to build that that booking system Where is over sure but there's a lot of like open table for restaurants. Yeah, there's open table there's like a lot of different services like this have Services out there that work with them to pair that together now. I don't know if open table like takes something I can't see how they could take a cut But like I'm sure there's some benefit there Maybe I have to pay them to be on it or there's ads or something. I have no idea. There's another Angle with the virtual assistant announcing itself, which is eavesdropping laws So when at least a dozen states, there's laws because it's It doesn't have ears like you and me. It's not hearing the conversation It means to actually record the conversation and because the you're recording the conversation There's states where every party on the in the conversation each party has to consent to it being recorded So either has to say this is a virtual assistant Can I record this or maybe it can get away with just announcing? This is being recorded and if you don't hang up you consent. I don't know the particular laws for each state. I feel like that could work Just you know, this call is being recorded. Please hang up if you don't want it to be. Yeah, but then Or maybe you you would have already started recording So I think you already broke the law so you'd have to be like this call will be recorded in however much time Please hang it. I don't know. I don't know. That's weird. Maybe they just won't let it well It doesn't know it doesn't necessarily have to have begun recording yet They can just say that script Before it starts hearing that's what I was saying That's what I was saying. Yeah, so they might have to delay when it starts recording, right? This call will be recorded in X amount of seconds. Hang up if you don't want it to be and then start the conversation. I Don't know how to fix this for you guys. I'm sorry. I don't know camera stuff. I've slightly moved all the dials I went down and people hated it. I went up and people hated it. I don't know. I'm sorry Some camera person will have to fix it eventually I don't know why when show gets good up every week, but it does we have way more lights this time For the demo when they when the virtual assistant was calling all these people when they're collecting this data and they're doing on like their Test runs they did presumably hundreds of these calls I think this is kind of like it might go down in the history books Because when what other time like if we live in a future where there's a eyes that look like us and think like us and are Better than us you're gonna be able to look back in time and point to a scenario where yep That was the first time that a human didn't know they were talking to an AI Yeah Yeah, cuz no one leaked this no one was like I think a computer called me Like I never saw an article about that You know like they didn't know yeah, just they talked to it and hung up I mean there's been chat bots people could be talking to chat bots. Yeah, there's the Turing test which again is chat based not Yeah audio based. Yeah, but even in the Turing test the the participants they know that one of the The one of the conversations are gonna be having is gonna have an AI so like they're looking out for it Yeah Pretty cool and the Turing tests could be used with chat with vocal chat in mind Just be adapted for it. Like I know it's a specific. It hasn't been conducted like that though Yeah, I know but like it could be you could be adapted There's lots of ways to adapt the imitation game because it's actually not that great of a test but anyway Yeah, let's just go right into Boston Dynamics. I think it's very cool I don't want to like play the audio on stream So I don't know how well it's gonna come out and all that kind of stuff But if you guys haven't heard of it before now I would definitely look up Google duplex and listen to the calls because it's way more interesting than it probably seems In fact, if you have it's I mean when you're on YouTube, it looks like the videos three hours long But if you it's probably only an hour and a half and if you have that time I would say watch all of IO there was a lot of I want to I was a lot of cool stuff in there Not just duplex duplex was definitely the coolest but before the end of this weekend. I will have seen the whole thing That's like have you seen the bit with lens? No. Oh, it's so crazy. I've had almost no time I've been super slammed this because now that they've got such good image recognition. They're getting closer to Google's end game goal, which was Information's coming at you without you needing to query it with like you're walking down the street Let's say you have some cool glasses and you just look at a building the image director Nick recognition knows that that building is the Washington Monument and then a card comes up with the information about it Looks so awesome and it's it's integrated with the AR kit. So it's like a nice distance away from you like this nice depth Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so it doesn't feel like it's not just a window that comes up here. It's like anchored to in space, right? It's so sweet. That's cool Okay, so now we have this well the source is Linus's email. Thank you very much Linus's email And Linus wants to talk about this one. He does well, that's why he send it to me Why does he care? I don't know. I Mean you can just do it. No, that's fine. You can snipe them. There's another Nintendo one we can do I also don't with this one No, that's another Linus one. Okay I Don't care what we talk about. I'm freaking I want to talk about Boston Dynamics Sure, because we're on to this robot like kind of kick right now. Yeah, so this again was se to Mitch who posted it in the form, but my dude Boston Dynamics, they're amazing. They make Bewildering robots like new backflips and stuff. They have a kick-ass you saw the channel. You saw the door opening one, right? Yeah, where he holds though. It holds the door open for the other one to walk through go to their YouTube channel it's so cool every few months they upload a new video what what the progress they've made and Two days ago. They did that they have played two new videos one shows the atlas robot. Can we play it? Yeah, we don't need audio right now. Yeah, this is I want to put this I'm gonna make this into a gif and put it on my Twitter and pin it Inspiring. Oh, no, here we go. It's Grammarly Look at that thing Uneven ground grass Variable friction. Yes, I want a rocky theme in the background. Yes. I want to go up the step Yeah, I wish he raises our he does that in the back of the video. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah Imagine how hard that is to run I know kids who can't run That's amazing man The only thing is in most of their videos when they have one of their robots walking around Somebody kicks it or pushes it with a hockey stick or something and they don't do that in this video And I would assume that's because it can't take it yet. If he could take it they'd show it. Yeah, it also looks like those are What do you call this linear hips? Oh, yeah, so if they hit the side, it'll probably just tip over. Oh I see. Yeah, I wanted to give me a figure eight here, but at the same time it might be able to the arms aren't So they might be able to teach The camera job, but we just play that again and again. This is the jump. I just wanted to make sounds Now you doing Hello, you can make that noise I've never heard anyone do that before I really wish I could do the going down a tube sound not even I don't know if a human. Yeah Yeah, I Can't even possibly the only reason why I went to chew chew chew it so people would know what we're even talking about That's not bad. I want to see that robot juke a football player out, you know, like go this way and spin or something Yeah, that'll be epic. See it would need it would need Multi-directional hips. You're right because just doing this won't work Yeah, so the second video that they uploaded was their spot mini, which is the smaller Quadruped dog like one it's the one that you might have seen videos where it has a weird arm Head slash whatever you want to call it that opens doors and recycles cans in this video. It doesn't have that instead it has this extra little modular on the on the back this white box and What you're watching is This thing navigate itself. It's kind of self-driving right now Yeah, it has a route that I believe it's trying to do and it's it's just moving through space If you click forward in the video, they'll actually put a render on the side of the screen to show you the data that it's seen Yeah, there we go so Reading up if you look at the description of the YouTube video what actually says is it's not Inherit it's not going through this as a novel situation. They've actually Manually piloted the robot through this area first to teach it to map it and then it goes through on its own after that Which is still useful. I mean if you're it's not trying to I don't think Yes, but I don't think it's trying to follow so some people might think like, okay I've done this once I was gonna do like exactly step-by-step I think it's trying to go to the same destination correct But it's still like alert like they could have put a box in the way or something and it would be able to deal with that's right It's not on like a set path. Yeah, it's just going through a known space It's like they gave it a map, but like it still had to get there, which I mean self-driving cars do have that. Yeah Yeah, I Just wanted to clarify because some people don't understand. Yeah, that's pretty sweet I mean the fact that it has to drive through first It seems like it would limit the applications if you're thinking about like a conflict zone Then you know, you're not gonna be able to bring this thing in first But maybe you could drop fly in small drone first or use a different type of robot to our different type of vehicle to map the area It's also this is also completely autonomous navigation So like if you're bringing in another robot you could like you could use this as some sort of like patrol or to check It your own areas or something like that and have manually controlled things to check out areas that you haven't seen before right? Go back to the part where it's on the stairs There's actually something you'll notice when it gets to the top of the stairs and wants to turn around again, so You can think we're looking at its butt right now, right? Now skip ahead just a burn. It's like its face, right? So it gets to the top now. It wants to go back It wants to go down and see how it turned around it's like its legs are optimized for kind of Oh relative to what we were looking at before it was kind of going backwards down those stairs Now is he gonna yeah, so he always wants that end to be lower face down ass up I Guess it's got those grasshopper legs. Yeah, I want to see this thing jump. Did you see that other one? They have that's on wheels Yeah, I could jump like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the thing was crazy. I love that I don't know the name of that one, but so badass these guys are the best those it's like murdered friends. Did you see that? Maybe they're sleeping Oh They're all mangled that one is like oh, okay, too many hockey sticks Why are you still kicking us? No, so, okay. I read that and I was googling about it and then I came across this other article I came across this other articles like hold up Stop the press spot mini is gonna be on sale next year in 2019 You're gonna be able to buy one of those things. I'm much I didn't know it doesn't say they don't say but I didn't think These things were gonna be for sale to the general public like anytime soon So it says I can't wait for the like the Casey Neistat Drone review of this we gotta get one for sure No, I'm just saying like it just seems like the kind of thing he would buy Yeah, I don't like ride it around New York. Somehow. I think we should we shouldn't even do a sponsored thing We should just outright buy one so we can have it around all the time I want to put my lunch on it and like get it to carry it down the stairs for me and stuff You can get it. We gotta get a random to rig a camera onto it We you can get different attachments Yeah, and you know, have you ever seen it do the chicken head thing where it can move its body but the the head Oh, yes in one one position. Yeah, so we could do that with like it's like basically a gimbal That would be cool. We don't need to hide. You know the video where we were saying we're hiring another shooter We're not we're just gonna wait it out spot many. We're just getting a spot many to walk around Things awesome last 90 minutes. It's all electric. Obviously, it's wireless You're probably not gonna buy one when they come out. They're probably gonna be stupid expensive Probably gonna be tens of thousands of dollars. Yeah And not really for you yet, although it will be probably for governments and PMCs mostly It's gonna be a consumer product eventually. That's their hope a couple years after that So right now there are ten spot many prototypes in existence. I guess not counting the murder ones And they're hoping to make one like a total of 100 by the end of this year and then sell them next year So they think it'll be useful for security patrols or helping construction companies keep tabs on what's happening at the building site. So security overnight Okay, and security patrol pretty much and you can get specialized attachments for different types of jobs Yeah, I like the idea of it auto following someone with a camera. That's cool Paramilitary company what would happen if you put little roller skates on each foot private I Just like just like how you troll the normal dog, yeah putting socks on it I don't want this. Please stop That's super cool, though What else you want to talk about? You want to talk about this tickets thing? Yes, this is kind of a low-tech thing Yeah, but it's a problem that plagues a lot of people that are probably watching right now. Here's the problem with tickets the thing there's a big economic problem with With ticket sales Freakonomics the podcast did a sweet episode about this actually when you go to buy concert tickets There the price of those concert tickets actually isn't driven by normal capitalist market dynamics This was supposed by WM groom AK on the form Yeah, who's a baller and I like him even more now that I know he's a nine snails fan like I am Because anyone who likes nine snails likes it a lot anyway, when you tickets are basically too cheap because Artists want all their fans to be able to come and see them if they were priced accordingly like just by supply and demand They'd probably be a lot more expensive and they are a lot more expensive when people are able to scalp them At which they're able easily able to do with bots and so in order to reduce the number of bots scalping tickets The band nine inch nails or Trent Reznor has made the decision on their upcoming tour this fall to not sell any tickets Online at all. They're going old-school You have to go and line up and buy them and you can't even line up overnight or anything like that You can't line up prior to 8 a.m You have to just like show up and it's like a mob of people and then organize yourself in a line or maybe even a Lottery system they talked about some venues. Maybe the employees just come out and go okay like You you you you you you're at the front and it's just like random Because just because they don't sell online doesn't mean there won't be scalpers, right? Yeah Scalpers can just pay someone 20 bucks to stand there. There is a limit of four tickets per person Hopefully that will reduce the scalping Okay, I don't think that will completely solve it. It won't but it'll make a dent. Yeah It's it's it's interesting. This has been really frustrating with like so My my dad and my group of friends have been going to PAX Prime since I was like 14 or something or 15 I don't remember we've been going for a very long time when we first started going you could walk up and Go to the desk and buy a ticket and walk in because there oh wow There wasn't enough fans and now for PAX West like PAX Prime as it as I know it They sell out in seconds and like they do this crazy queuing thing and there's limits per person And like they do IP lock and like all this crazy stuff doesn't matter completely gone immediately And there's an insane amount of scalping just outside of PAX There's like many people scalping stacks of tickets every single year and there's an insane amount of scalping online There is a really nice community online where there's a bunch of different communities that sell them at cost Okay, because it's like oh, I bought too many my friend can't go whatever that kind of stuff I suspect those communities have a whole bunch of people in them Yeah, just buying them and scalping them Yeah, but but I do know a lot of people that have gotten tickets at cost that needed them from those communities So it is working to a certain degree. So that's cool, but like It really sucks when me and my friends who have been going since PAX was really small and like Barely a convention are now struggling to be able to go even though we've been loyal this whole time It's just like ah, man, that kind of sucks. We still make it every year. We somehow make it But it's just well you can always pay a bunch more Yeah, I don't think we've had to do like oh we have to buy like two single days or something like that We've never had to buy like Entire sets of tickets for every person from scalpers. We've never had to do that There are other approaches rather than going full Stone Age That have been experimented with one of them is basically Kind of verified you buy your ticket you pay for it But you don't really have it until you show up with your identification With the credit card that bought the tickets then you're let in and they print the tickets for you at that time There's problems with that though because you cut you want there to be a secondary market You know you don't you want to be able to buy them at a cost You want to be able to buy them the week before because you just found out or like you're visiting that city Yeah, you want to be able to buy online like nine channels fans or diehards People travel once at a concert by the way, I've seen them five times once at a concert I was there and there was a lady who had followed them across Europe She seemed them like 28 times. She had a stack of picks for tambourines She got an autograph from him and then got that autograph tattooed on her body like she was insane People want to be able to see oh, they're not coming to Vancouver, but they're going to Seattle. I'm gonna buy a ticket for Seattle Yeah, but I'm not gonna drive out there and get in a non-line on The hopes that I can buy a ticket and then drive out there again for the show. Yeah, there's really no like great solution And it sucks I Love the quote here speaking of sucks What does he say here? We decided to try something different that will also look like We'll also likely suck but in a different way. We're hoping many of you will be happy with results Well, some may do what they always do and bitch about it Yeah, like there's and there's no other way to say it. He's trying something It's probably not gonna completely it definitely won't completely work I think I think for them they're just gonna have to try to like wave the noise. It's trade-offs Yeah, and just like see how much less or more negative their new solution is It's not and they're never gonna have like a perfect solution. There was one other solution that's been tried I believe by ticketmaster called verified fan. You ever heard of that? No it's I believe they take a certain number of tickets or maybe certain sections and What you do is you have to register like ahead of time to kind of a community forum That'll be on in this case ticket masters website where you have to do all these different things that signal that you're a true fan you've got to engage with so many posts you've got to like I Think that's basically it like you're on it's like a process. Okay to verify yourself It's not just I log in that's see that that almost makes me kind of happy like something that I've wanted from packs for a Long time is like, okay, so I've bought tickets to packs West for like 12 years Mm-hmm. It would be nice if you knew that Yeah, but so the scalpers let me buy another one. They have no they scanned you in. Yeah. Yeah, but then like maybe I I have like a profile and Scalpers could still do this but I was gonna say like I sign in at the event and I'm showing you like yeah I'm showing up every day. This is me You can check me every time if you want like make make some process that you can go through That gives you some form of elevated account Well, even what you just described would introduce Quite a bit of friction to scalpers because if you're scouting 10 tickets and then all those people arrive at like the same time And you can't wait in line 10 different times You might it would be harder though whatever introduces more friction and even the the waiting in line 10 different times thing though, like If you have to verify it by ID and stuff, they wouldn't be able to they only be able to scalp one set of tickets. I Actually got screwed by that once I bought we spent like or no, I think was five 160 bucks for red hot chili peppers tickets for four of them and I bought one craigslist and they were printed out and they were black and white and The guy was super sketch and we didn't feel good about it. So My buddy was also texting the same person and after I bought them he continued to text them. Hey, they're still available Yeah, they sure are Met up with him again and busted him didn't end up We we got like some collateral from the guy but he ended up just forgoing it like we got his phone and stuff But he is because we're like we got your phone now. You have to like give us a refund and he's like, okay I'll go get money out. I'll come back like tomorrow kind of thing He never did and the cops didn't care at all So we just had his crappy phone after and like and his debit card or something like that You took his phone from him. Okay, I wasn't there. I was I happen to be traveling I was but my friends who also were part of this and who are also larger than I am They confronted him and like had a stake out and stuff. It was cool. But um in the end basically the deal is they could have sold these tickets a dozen times and And actually ours could have worked If we were the first ones, yeah, it up Yeah, whoever gets their first and gets this ticket scanned the rest are inactive after that. So that was a drag. What a guy It's just so Junk I don't like it when people when people prey on like the average person in general But it sucks too when someone's like so excited for something and they're gonna like they're gonna fork out the money for this band They really want to go see and they're like, yes I finally get to see him in concert and then they get like screwed at the door and so bad that the person scanning their ticket Is probably like you're a terrible person. You know what I mean, and then you finally get in there. Okay that all sucked But we're here and then the whole show is just actually someone else doing this in front of you Holy kill yourselves I don't be a just but young people are getting pretty bad at that I've seen people I've watched people just like Just continually hold the button down and contribute each one to their story and then watch it themselves And then here's the people if you're the type of person that likes to take cell phone recordings for your Instagram or snapchat Or just for video at a concert know this Every other person in the world when they log into their snapchat or Instagram Those and they're watching a story and that story is a dark room with crackling music They skip it man. Nobody watches it nobody you're ruining the experience for everybody for nothing Including you you start nothing off to almost certainly there was there was there was one time I went to a blink when I to concert I've been a I was a ridiculous fan of like 22 for a really long time. Nice Not their new stuff. So take off your pants and jacket. Yes your life Yes for sure and enema the state and like what was the album before that? They had one before that they had two before that see you like I thought and I'm saying like their first one No, that was their first one where they were like a big deal. Oh, yeah, they also had a different drummer Well, that makes sense cuz he really Catapulted them. Yeah, Travis is kind of incredible. Let's go to the discography She's got a cat and dude ranch. Oh, yeah, I knew more I knew of dad dude ranch Yeah, those those were great. Like oh, yeah, there's the album cover with the big the ox's butt. Yeah, the rump Yeah, I like the old punk stuff. Whatever. I finally got to go see them in concert was so freaking stoked Travis gets like pulled up into the air his drum platform gets elevated on these like wicked big chords and then they make it vertical Yeah, he's like strapped in a thing. He's it was the one of the coolest things I've like ever seen and I did like pull my phone out, but I recorded like low The worst video that's ever existed just goes like I know it's gonna suck But I want to just like be able to remember it. Mm-hmm, and that's yeah, so I don't think I sent it to questions Did you say did you watch that video again? I did actually again and I deleted it immediately because it was completely useless Do you think recording it hampered your experience? No I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry that's my fault. I'm sorry. I'm sorry I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry that's my fault. I'm sorry but Okay, cuz I again I didn't I didn't put it in front my face. I didn't put in front of anyone's face Man I went to the like pulled it out between a song Okay, and like it was it was yeah, I didn't there's a way to do it and I think everyone gets one. The first one's free. I went to this folkloric I wish, okay, if I was a dictator, if you live in one of those dictator countries, one upside is you can make sweet or whatever silly law you want. And if I was a dictator, my silly law would be if you see someone taking a photograph or a video with an iPad in public, you are completely allowed and culturally sanctioned to walk by and bitch slap that thing down to the ground and they can't get mad. They can look at you and go, ahhhhhh. Caught me slipping. I hate it, Ben. Okay, this lady recorded the entire, I mean entire, I mean entire, like an hour and a half video. Why didn't someone stop her? Because wouldn't that even, aren't you not even allowed? I would have, I was seething, but there was a language barrier, my Spanish isn't that good. Okay, I didn't even mean you, I meant like someone who was running. I don't know, we were at the kind of the top. Okay. There was no one, I talked to her after the show though. I embarrassed my wife. I went up to the lady. She turns out she spoke English. She wasn't Mexican actually and I said, I just wanted you to know that you ruined the entire show for me. You ruined it. She was like, what? What? I was on crutches and stuff. So when I first, I got stabbed a few days before and I, I, I crutched up to her and so she was, and I was like, excuse me. And so she was just like, how can I help you? Like, hello, who are you? I was like, I hate you. Where did you get stabbed? In an Uber in Mexico city. Oh yeah. By the driver? No, he drove me to the hospital. Oh. Like we were, we were stuck in traffic. It was broad daylight near a tourist area. Sorry, just, you can't just like drop that and yeah. It was a minor stabbing. We are stuck in traffic, right? When you're in gridlock, you can't move. And the mistake we made was that our windows were down. So they see a bunch of tourists, windows are down. I'm sitting in the back and suddenly this, there's a guy talking to the driver at his window. So being in South America, I assume, okay, this guy's telling us something. And then I see that they're like arguing and like he's got a knife and I'm like, oh, the driver's getting robbed. And then I'm like, oh, we're getting robbed. And by that time his partner, there was two of them had come to the other side and, but everyone had their windows down to a different degree. Mine was like all the way down. My buddy and I was behind the driver, my buddy in the passenger seat, his window was like this much down and my wife's window was completely up and she was behind the driver. Excuse me. That was something to do with the power, was it not? Okay. Anyway, so my friend at the front seat, one of the assailants put his hand in that window gap and was like groping at his pockets to try to get his phone. Meanwhile the guy on the driver's side came to the back. So you guys are stopped at a light? Yeah. We're stopping gridlock traffic. Gridlock traffic. And the other guy came to the back and was like yelling at me. And my thought was like, why don't we just get out of the car and run away? Like they're not going to chase us. There's like a crowd of people everywhere. Like let's just exit the vehicle while they're like trying, like yelling at us. So I moved over toward my wife, but couldn't open the door because it's like locked because the car is moving. And basically I didn't, I was probably this far from him, from like the window, like I'm in the middle seat and I couldn't understand what he was saying, but I now know it was like, give me the stuff or I'm going to stab you. So what he did was he reached, he didn't want to hurt me. And by the way, this guy was like 19 tops. He reached in and like started stabbing at my legs and he got me just above the knee and it went in like a half inch, like nothing. And it didn't hurt. It kind of feels like it sounds, if that makes sense. Kind of just like, okay. And I was just like, ah, God damn it. So then I grabbed a backpack that we had and I threw the backpack at him and that backpack did contain a DSLR camera. The one only piece of cashmere I owned and don't own since like a sweater, like a two pairs of sunglasses. We got like a decent haul. And by the way, insurance never ended up claiming it because it was one of those situations where your insurance would go up and it wasn't worth it. So he got that, but he didn't get our passports. Oh, I had just engaged or just become engaged. I proposed to my wife like the week before and the photos, like I took a photo of her right after I took it, after I proposed to her and she was like teary eyed and had the ring. So those kind of sacred photos were gone, which was probably the biggest drag, but we still had our passports. And I just got my wife to give me her sweater and like tied her on the leg. And then we took, it took us like 45 minutes to get to the hospital. Oh, it was so chaotic, man. It was like traffic. We had a police escort, but they were still inept. We went to the first hospital and decided that wasn't a good one. Like we were outside the hospital and like, are they going to come and like bring out something? And then like 20 minutes later, like we're just going to go to another one. Like, okay. We got to drive down the wrong side of the road with like police sirens blaring and stuff. And this Uber driver just like, woo. It was insane. That was pretty cool. My cousin, uh, speaking of, I've never been stabbed, but my cousin, when he was in high school, there was another kid at the high school, I guess, who his gang initiation was to stab someone. So he just like walked up to my cousin after school and stabbed him. My cousin pulled the knife out and stabbed him back. Hell yeah. Which is like not really smart, like wounds and stuff. That's badass. But it was, uh, yeah, my cousins are insane. He's got that fight response. That's sweet killer instinct. Good for him. I got the, the fright response, the flight response. God damn it. Just take the bag. Well, I couldn't have ran if I wanted. I did want to. It felt, it felt like you had the like disappointed and disappointed response, I guess. Like why is this what's happening? Just take the stupid thing. I appreciate that he stabbed my legs. Instead of like your chest. It was so, yeah, he could have just been like, I don't value human life. There's your neck or like, yeah. I mean, he could have slipped and got my femoral artery, but, um, the damage that was incurred was worth it for the story. Right. Like, right now I've been, yeah, cool. I'd show you, but I have to take my pants off and the camera won't even see it. So yeah, it's not worth it. Yeah. Twitch is going to be like, get off the platform. It's just too much stuff. Okay. So the show's almost over. Oh yeah. Sponsors. We should probably do sponsors. Yeah. Uh, let's start with Sauvage Jerkay. Sauvage Jerky. 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FreshBooks might simplify your accounting and free up enough of your finances to help you do that little push you need. I don't know what market you might be in that that would be applicable to, but it might make sense. Hell of a segue. Yeah. It was fantastic. If you do, I know one thing that's really applicable to our audience is people who might be doing like little tech things on the side. Like I know a lot, like Linus and I, and most people that I know that are really into computers at one point in time, really early on in their life, they were like the person that all their friends knew that fixed and built and repaired and maintained all the computers around. And you can turn that into a business. I did it for a few little shops there for a while and whatnot. I even had like an official company name and all that kind of stuff. And if you really don't want to like manage invoices, manage expenses, make sure people are paying you. If you have, if you're not doing like cash deal under the table every single time, if you want to be a little bit more legit, you want to allow people to take time to pay for stuff. You can do that with FreshBooks, which is great. You can create invoices super fast. You can check if people have seen them. You can manage all your expenses, which for me is a big deal because I hate doing little micro paperwork things. It's one of my like biggest pet peeves. Oh yeah. It's just feels like a waste of time all the time and then I'll put it off for way too long. So yeah, it's helpful. FreshBooks, super cool. Check it out right here. And yeah, put WAN in the how did you hear about a section and use offer code WAN and go to FreshBooks.com slash WAN and everything will, everything will go. We're working on getting the slash NA implemented, but it's not there yet. So for now it's slash WAN. It's gonna take some time. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Okay, Alliance doesn't come. I was gonna say I don't think he's gonna make it. Yeah. He's not coming. Let's do it. So. We'll put him in the thumbnail though still. You know? Get more views that way. I wanted to do when we both did, we both did this like weird arm thing at one point in time. I was gonna use that. Oh, when we're talking about boss dynamics? Maybe that was it. I don't remember. I just remember being like, I have to mentally log that I was like somewhere around three quarters through the show. Where is it? So. Nintendo shares new details about its Nintendo Switch online service, which is going to launch this September. So cool. It's kind of good. It's kind of bad. The reason why I'm going to say it's kind of bad is because as you may or may not know, the online right now is at no cost. And this will make it so that the online is at a cost. And what might that cost be? We have it written down here. We do. A year for 25 bucks. 24.99. So just just about two bucks a month. For an individual. Okay. That's Canadian pricing. Yes. U.S. pricing is 20 bucks. So U.S. pricing for one year is 20 bucks. U.S. pricing for three months is eight bucks. And U.S. pricing for one month is four bucks. But Canadian, it is 25, 10 and five respectively. There's also family membership pricing. So that covers eight people and they can even be on different Nintendo systems. And that in Canadian is 45 bucks a year. And 35 in American. So if there's a way to use that with just you and seven friends that you're not actually related to, you might be able to. That would be sweet. It would be really cheap. People do that all the time with Spotify and and schnaz, right? Yes. All that kind of stuff. I am totally not on Linus's family plan for something similar to that. What can it do? Well, it gives you a few things. It includes some NES games like Ice Climber, Legend of Zelda, Balloon Fight, Soccer, Tennis, Mario. I love when games used to be able to be just called soccer or tennis. Yeah. Mario Bros. Super Mario Bros. Dr. Mario Super Mario Bros. 3 and Donkey Kong and 10 more will also launch with the service will be announced at a later date. So that is completely novel. That's totally new for those games. There's never before been online play with those games. Is that correct? That's what I understood. Any that will. OK. So with emulators, you could. Well, yeah. Well, you could come. What can you do with an emulator? Yeah. But so any that originally supported multiplayer will still support multiplayer and will support online multiplayer, which is cool because it'll be like a really easy way to do so. Doing online co-op with emulators has always been a little jank, but doable. I don't think it's very known if you cancel this description, if you'll still have access to those games, but I doubt it. Back to the multiplayer thing. That's definitely new. It's what I've got written here is depending on the game, players can engage in online competitive co-op or multiplayer. Or this is probably new for all of them. Take turns controlling the action. Yes. So this was this was something that I noticed as well, which is really cool where I think they call it like pass the controller. Yeah, it says friends can even watch each other play single player games and pass the controller at any time. So you can watch your friend play a game. Through the switch. That's a cool idea because I think with Twitch, we've we've like sort of lost something, which is like I was playing a game with a friend the other day and we both stream on Twitch, but we didn't want to stream at that point in time. And I commented where like I wish I could see your screen right now because like I was I was dead in a match and there's no spectate. Yeah. So I was like, I wish you were like streaming, but I guess just to me. What if and that's like not super a thing. Do you think when once you pass the controller, you still have control of where the controller goes? Or do you think if I pass it to you? Yeah, I want to be able to yank it because imagine how fun that would be if you're watching Ninja or you're watching your favorite streamer and they're like, hey, I'm going to the bathroom and then they just pass their controller to some random person in the stream and buddy's just like, oh, no, two million people get to watch them play for a little bit of a switch game. Yeah, that would be pretty sweet. That'd be really sick, actually. I don't think it'll work in that way, but if I remember correctly, Mixer does that Microsoft streaming service. You can do stuff like that, but I could be super extremely off base there. I've I've I know there's some form of thing that can work that way, but it might have been a specific game that someone happened to be playing on Mixer. It could be completely unrelated. I don't know, but I think that idea is super cool. I like the idea of sharing the controller too. So like if you're like, dude, look, I'm so stuck on this freaking boss. Oh yeah. I've played the boss for a while and he's like, yeah, give me a shot. You just like pass the controller over and he gets what about a new form of smurfing? You're like, yeah, man, just one B one me. And then there's like someone spectating. You're like, send it across. There it is. There's the thumbnail. We are live. That's the end of the show. We're going to stop now. You're behind the mic. It's technically not if you don't want it to be. We went live a little late. Oh, OK. Can I come in and do a topic? Yeah. All right. I'll go home. You can't take these though. Thank you for keeping my seat warm. Oh, that is a warm seat. You could say it's a warm ass seat. Oh my. Because it's an ass seat. So do I get one of these shirts? Yeah, you can have one if you want. Nice. I'm actually pretty excited. I designed it myself. I saw that. The writing is like precisely messy. It's like perfectly messy. It's good. Thank you. I like the show too. I want to say when I first saw this in person, Riley even asked me about it. He's like, so what do you think of the set? I was like, ah. But it looks really good on camera. Cool. Good. Did Riley jump on the show at all at any point? No. Oh, I kind of thought he was going to come in and sort of talk about working here and stuff. He may have been. He can take me out if he wants. No, he can't because he carpools with James. OK. Oh, OK. James is his ride. Well, then OK. Bye, James and Riley. Bye. Do we have any cool topics to talk about? We tried to leave some for you and then you didn't show up. I was busy. I was busy running a laptop at five gigahertz. Oh, OK. Is it ridiculous or is it reasonable? Oh, it's not reasonable. OK. Do you want any spoilers? Is it the too big? It is. It involves server fans. Oh, no. OK, you got to do a follow up video where you go and use it in public. It involves how people react. It involves an external variable voltage power supply that's about this big. Totally. You should still do it. It's louder than a hairdryer. Totally. I would love to. I would watch that video. Oh, man. You got to name it and then like bring it back by like using the blur in public. It's terrible. Anyways, we haven't talked about. Have we talked about renting out your graphics card for mining? We left that. Let's do that. OK, so the original article here is from TechRadar and it was posted by apparently no one on the forum. James is apparently on it. Morgan MLG man. A German company has announced games from space, which borrows your GPU for cryptocurrency mining purposes and then gives you free PC games in return. So you pick any game you want, watch a progress bar slowly tick up as your GPU is used for the company's mining efforts. The faster your graphics card, the quicker the process towards getting a new game. So here's a really important thing to point out. Games that you pay for on your electricity bill are not free. Yeah, but I think a lot of kids are going to think they are. This is totally going to be kids using their computers to screw over their parents. Yeah, or people in dorms or whatever else. So it's I will give games from space credit for being devious enough to figure out one of the biggest challenges of cryptocurrency mining, and that is power and actually cooling as well. So by distributing the computing around the globe, it's effectively kind of not their problem and everyone who's running on their network of computers is going to be contributing such a small amount to it that it's not really going to be like it's not going to be noticeable. Some of the games are actually newer big name affairs like PUBG or Grand Theft Auto V. So with a GTX 1070, either of those would take you about a month of mining. You can get dirt 3 in a day apparently. Now obviously you won't be able to mine while you are actually playing games. And from my experience with software like NiceHash, it might not necessarily cooperate that well when you launch applications that want the GPU back. That was actually why I stopped running folding on my gaming system, because I was running into weird issues even if folding at home was technically giving the GPU back. I was still not running correctly. So I would watch out for pretty much everything about this. What else we got? Yeah, so there was a few topics. Where are we? Qualcomm is finally making a smart watch chip. So this was originally posted by Edward the Weeb on the forum. Hey, James didn't tell you you're not getting a ride and that you can't come and say hi. Okay, well let's just burn through this really quickly and then you guys can ask Riley some questions in Twitch chat. Does that sound pretty good? Yeah. Okay, so Qualcomm is making a smart watch chip. AI Wear OS watches that come out today have little option but to use Qualcomm Snapdragon Wear 2100 from February 2016. Qualcomm have argued this is holding the entire Wear OS platform back. It is pretty slow. Qualcomm has announced a watch focused silicon this fall alongside a flagship device with several partners set to release Wear OS watches based on the new chips by the holidays. The third generation processors will be designed from the ground up for a no compromises smart watch experience. So better battery life, smaller watches, apparently designing the chips to work more effectively with all these on displays and a smart watch is first and foremost a watch. It needs to look good. It needs to be sleek. It needs to look good when I'm looking at it. These are all just looking good. This is a quote. It has nothing to do with. Why would you say that? Yeah, it has nothing to do with the chip. All right. Thank you very much. Oh, also rumor Google preparing pixel smart watch probably related to that last one. You're talking really fast Linus. You are. Okay, I'm sorry. Are you okay? Nine inch nails to fight ticket bots by not selling tickets online. Yeah, we already covered that one. Oh, all right. We covered that one because James thought you wouldn't want to talk about it. So this guy works here now. I didn't want to I didn't want to make you stop doing the actual news part. Well, no, that's okay. We have a new news show. That's true. No, but a lot of people are concerned. They're like, don't stop doing the WAN show. It's not going to stop. Someone just said Central Park, but he misspelled the misspelling. He did Central Prack, which is like a man. It's a meme for the people. You can you can get your own. You want to put an R in there at the beginning, that's fine. Central Rupack. It's Riley. Yeah. Um, this is a I'm having a hard time with his mic in the middle. Yeah. You know what? Why don't you? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm gonna sit there. I'll sit here. I'll take I'll take a back seat. I'm just a boy. This is a small town boy. The last time I was on this show, I was a guest. So what says are you only hosting shows or you're doing other things at LMG as well? I'm writing. What's this? What are you looking at? Oh, the audience. Oh, the set. They're on the camera over there. You gestured over here. Oh, I thought you were gesturing that way. I mean, I built. Yeah, I guess. Well, I didn't build the set. I mean, I sort of did. A bunch of people built it. I've been working on this for the past like month. I've been here for a month. Trying to give you some credit, man. Can I say that? Yeah. I've been here for like a month and I've just been building the set and doing a bunch of stuff with Yvonne and Edzel. Yeah, it was hard work, guys. But I'm here. Everett asks, were you OK when NCIX went bankrupt? Was I OK? Yeah. Actually. Weren't you gone already? Yeah, I was gone by the time they had gone bankrupt. I had left and started with Secret Informant. Sorry. No. No, it's fine. OK. You can talk about Secret Informant. Yeah. So I went to do that and then I was doing that for a while and then we started talking. Yes, we did. Someone said is Linus the Terrible Boss? The news was born. He's asking. Someone's asking if Linus is the Terrible Boss. He's asking you specifically if Linus is the Terrible Boss. Well, you know, I've only been here for a while. I can't tell yet. No matter how I answer that question, I feel like it's going to seem insincere. Linus is a great boss. No, Linus is a terrible boss. Yeah, they both sound like lies. Is the show still a work in progress? Kind of seems cobbled together. It's definitely a work in progress still. We're still like tweaking stuff. You said that on social media the other day. So like if you guys have suggestions for how to change it, definitely let us know. We will read them and we will take them into account. Yeah, it has its own Twitter handle. What is it? At tech linked YT. I think it's at tech linked YT. MazioSare says please sell a t-shirt with that exact design. Yeah, we're doing it. I think that's the plan. It's actually available right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It goes up really fast. Yeah, you got to go to the LTT merch store because tech linked is still too bitch mode to have its own merch store. It's no longer like Linus and I make a meme on when and then four months later we have a shirt. Yeah, like fast. Now memes turn into t-shirts immediately. We actually have a dedicated graphic designer. So there's been honestly there's been so many moving parts getting this show started, getting him in here, getting all the design work done, getting the set built, all the negotiations. I really wish I could tell you know most of the story behind the NCIX tech tips acquisition effort, right? Yes. Okay, that is under NDA. Just so you know, but it's too long of a story to tell anyways. 10 out of 10. How are like out of 10? How crazy is it? I mean, it's insane. I had no when we were when we filmed the when we filmed the announcement video, when we filmed the announcement video, I wrote the skit and then I wrote the out the the end part and I'm like, okay Linus fill in the NCIX story and I thought it was gonna be like a couple paragraphs or something. It's like an essay. It was four pages long or something. I was like, what? You can't do that. And then he's like, no, we're doing the whole thing. Stinky Pete said great to see you. Are you continuing the NCIX persona, i.e. Quick Bits or are you trying to differentiate the show from the past? I mean, Central Park survived. I tried to kill them. Well, I don't know what else to call it. What should I call Quick Bits if not Quick Bits? Rapid small portions. Rapid fire small portion news stories bits. No, I don't know if you guys I mean we there are some other names already, but it's supposed to be a spiritual successor. So like we had I saw some people leaving comments like, wow, you guys really captured the essence of Netlinked. And I'm kind of sitting there going, well, oh crap, we've got the same host and writing staff. We've got the same other host and sort of troll and you know, they captured the essence. How did you do that? How did you make sure it was so true to the original? You call the original people basically the original. Yeah, I don't know. What does Central Park mean? If you don't want to answer the damn question, you're going to have to stop saying it. I do want to answer it. I just feel like it's just kind of a long story. It's kind of a lengthy. It's an inside joke originated on Flight of the Conchords that me and my friend said all the time. And then I started saying it on Netlink Daily and it kind of caught on. Top comment every video from there on. Yeah. That's not actually a very long story. I know. Well, I was just like, can I do it? Can I? I guess I did. Apparently. I'm just going to go through and through. Someone said you said you will do not only tech, but until now it's only been tech. What's going on? I will not do only tech? Where? Who on what? Because it said STEM news. I remember that from the video. Oh, yeah. So that's more of a bet hedging strategy. You know, if some kind of biomedical thing comes out, we don't want to end up in a stupid argument with people in the comments that that's not tech. Because when it comes down to it, everything is tech. The wheel is tech. Eh. It is. It super is. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is. I'm a contrarian. So that was actually a change that I made to the script where I kind of went, look, let's not paint ourselves into a box. It's about STEM. That way it can be about basically anything. It can be about literally anything. If someone finds a new prime number, we can talk about it. Games doesn't really fit in there, though. What if we say it's STEM and gaming? Stigma. This news stems from STEM. Jeez. Moving on immediately. What do you hope to learn or improve working with Linus? Speaking of... I've already learned to kind of like fly by the seat of my pants as in like, do it now. Do something. Get it done. You know? Yeah, you came in on your first day. Didn't have an email address. Didn't have like any passwords for anything. Didn't actually have an assignment. Because basically we had put the whole thing off for so long. Like we were supposed... Riley's start date was supposed to be like many weeks ago. I think I was looking at the emails and they started like February or March. Yeah. And so what happened was we kept thinking we were gonna get the channel and then we were like, okay, here's your start date. And then we were like, oh, we weren't gonna get it, but we were just gonna start our own channel. And you were like, just stay tuned. I'll get you an update. And I'm just like, okay, cool. And you're like, okay, yeah, now this is happening. Blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm just like, okay, yeah, you're right. The amount of people that got chat banned immediately after you made that joke was insane. There's like a whole block. It's above this, but just like, oh yeah. Geez. Anyway, so there was a whole thing where we were just like, okay, screw it. We've got some pre-show preparation to do like a set and figuring out branding and all this stuff. Riley can help with that. Let's just get him in here. And honestly, it was a good move. It was actually Nick's idea because it really put the pressure on me to start making videos with this person that I'm paying all the time. We hired a writer and host to build a set. Maybe not the best decision. I did learn a lot of my management strategies from NCIX. So I came in here and it was like coming home. People are asking, will you do WAN show too? Will I do WAN show too? I mean, I guess that's up to you guys. I don't know. We actually haven't really decided how we're going to best utilize Riley. I think I'm screwing it up right now. So if you're taking that as an example. Yeah. I mean, we brought him in as someone who's multi-talented. Something that some people wouldn't know is he was basically running the entire NCIX channel by himself by the end of it. And arguably, it wasn't its finest moment, but- Rude. He was literally by himself writing, filming, editing, posting, actually posting it to YouTube, answering comments about, yo guys, what's going on with my order? Is that whole place imploding? What's going on? In the comments. So we brought Riley in knowing that we wanted to bring back a spiritual successor to Netlinked. Knowing that the best way to do that would be to bring back the tag team that I think... Nothing against anyone else who ever worked on Netlinked, but the tag team that I think refined the Netlinked format, made it what it was, and was the golden age of Netlinked in terms of audience reception, in terms of viewership. Yeah. Well, originally, because Netlinked was Netlinked Weekly that you did on the NCIX channel. Way back. It was a longer show, and it wasn't really... I guess you guys edited it a bit, but that was before I came on. And then when we came on, we were like, hey, we're going to make it a daily show. And then you guys took it totally serial, and then I came in when I was a contractor and didn't really care anymore. That whole casual feel of Netlinked was not manufactured. It was because I actually didn't give any cares. I would roll in on a Friday. That's definitely the feeling I got. At like 10.30, we would bang out all the videos that had to be done for that week. Yeah, like four at one time. And then I'd be like, yeah, it's two o'clock. Boom. See ya. You're out of there. And I'd come back here and host WAN Show, often late. And then we were kind of like, hey, Linus, so we wrote this funny bit. Could you put the hat on and do the voice for the thing? And he's like, no, I'm doing this. Boom. Okay, guys. I'm like, Linus. And I'd get stuff wrong. But that's not, that's, okay. I get stuff wrong, right? I'd read the script wrong, but I would just keep going through it because I was in a hurry. And that was where that kind of stuff, and people liked it. So we ended up with- So yelling at people from off screen and stuff. Yeah, that was actually the only feedback that I gave them on their writing was during the show. During the show. Telling them stuff was crap. That was a stupid bit. What's the next one? So the goal was to, that seemed like the best way to, I don't forget where I was going with this, but it seemed like the best way to make this happen was to bring back sort of what I see as sort of the heart and soul of it, and then just inject it into something new. And I forget what the point of getting there was. I'm going to take a few different questions and lump them into one. How do you guys expect the channel to perform? Some people are asking comparatively to Tech Quickie, but I don't really think that's super relevant. But how do you expect the growth of the channel to go? I feel like I'm a bad person to answer that question. You guys know so much about analytics. I think this is general to- So my expectation for the channel was, or not my expectation, my goal was as sort of a salty, well, sort of thing. My goal was for Tech Linked to basically immediately have as good or better viewership than the latter episodes of Tech Linked on the NCIXcom channel. Anything beyond that I consider to be a smashing success, and as for the sales team, anything above 100,000 views a video should be quite easy for them to bring in sponsors for. If they can bring in sponsors on a consistent basis, we will comfortably cover Riley's cost and the extra editing courses that we need. We don't do free lunch here, but good try. So as long as we can bring sponsors in, we will comfortably cover our overhead, is basically where I was going with that. Even like the square footage, the equipment, like all those things that you have to factor into the cost of a show. And I mean, if your standard was that they outperform like the later episodes of Netlinked, it's already done that. So- Yeah, I think there's a bit of a honeymoon period going on right now though. Well, but it could continue forever perfectly. It could continue forever perfectly. I mean, honestly, I think we're going to get there. I think that, not I think, we've actually gotten a lot of feedback already from community members saying there really was a gap there. Netlinked had a purpose. A source fed style- Tech news thing. And I was kind of surprised when we stopped and people were like, there's no other like really quick like tech news shows about like, you know, centering on like PC stuff. And there isn't, and a lot of people are trying to hit the 10 minute minimum and all this kind of stuff. Yeah. But we're not interested in that. We've never cared about the 10 minute minimum. A lot of people, we've released videos that are 10 minutes and one second or whatever. And a lot of people are like, aha, in the comments, gotcha. And I'm kind of sitting there going, you don't understand how this works. The 10 minute mark is only important if you run a mid roll adsense spot. And we don't. And we don't. So it doesn't matter. Oh, your ride is leaving. Okay. Well, you can go. Thank you for joining us. Thanks for having me. Yeah. This is cool. It's been fun. Oh, right. I remember where I was going with that. He's very multi-talented, so we brought him in knowing that he was multi-talented thinking that we would just find, we'd find- I'm just like a natural on camera. I know everything that you need to do on like a set. Thank you. Thank you. So right now his time is not completely occupied just by writing tech linked and hosting it. And in some cases he won't even be hosting it. It's only a three times a week show and I'll probably be hosting somewhere between a third and half of them. Riley will be doing between a third and half of them. And we might have other people jump in. James has expressed interest. Colton has expressed interest. And we'd like to have it actually be quite diverse. Maybe even Luke would come back and host an episode. That would be cool. I'd like to. Especially on certain topics. So yeah. So- So I have two things in the chat that I'm going to pull from archival stuff. One, someone was like, oh my God, Luke is back. That's confusing. He's literally on one show every week. I've been here the whole time. Pretty much. The other one was, is Riley Luke's replacement? That's been asked a whole bunch of times. So right now in terms of actual hosting on LTT, I am on the fence. You will see Luke host another LTT before you will see Riley. In fact, how's that going? Good. It keeps changing. Right. I can probably just talk about it. Yeah, sure. Yeah. So I'm doing a Nintendo Labo. I've changed how I wanted to review it a couple of times. I don't think, I haven't seen a single review of it online that I think, this is going to throw some shade, has done a very good job. Go for it. Because I agree. And because of that, I'm now like, okay, that's a lot of pressure. Because I'm thinking no one's done a very good job of covering it. So now I need to not screw up. You've been in that position before. And I think- Yeah. I'm trying to think of an example. We were really late on, was it The Rift? Yeah. We were really late on something that you cared about a lot. Vibe? Might have been Vibe. I think it was one of those. It was a VR headset, I think. And basically, I think we talked about it. And we were like, okay, well then in that case, yeah, I think, okay, I'm remembering this even better now. I remember talking about it. And you were like, this is going to take a long time. And so I took on some more quick videos to fill in the gaps. Because I think you spent almost an entire week on it. Yeah. So it's been a little bit hard because this week we've been pushing for V1, which won't mean anything to you guys. Also I'm hiring. For Floatplant. Yeah, also I'm hiring for Floatplant. So I've been going through resumes and stuff. Also I've been trying to do this Labo thing. And I was like, I'll be done early in the week. And then I was like, done most of my notes. And I was like, it's been out for a while. Let me watch some reviews and see what's going on. And I was like, oh. Okay. All right. This changes things. And when everyone else's stuff is like, again, I'm going to throw some shade. Really surface level and really missing the point, in my opinion, for most people. Yeah, I have to take it to the next level, I think. So yeah, I should be ready relatively soon. I'm expecting next week. So I'm traveling for the next two and a half weeks or something like that. Oh, have we told people that Scrapyard Wars Season 7 is coming? No, I don't think so. We are shooting. We actually have a shoot date. Yeah. We have a sponsor locked in. Finally, we've got a shoot date. It's going to... should we tell them the challenge? I mean, I don't know it off the top of my head. I've been emailed it. I just don't remember. Sure. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So it's going to be a classic head-to-head, me versus Luke. No teams, no gimmicks, except for one gimmick. Neither of us gets an internet-capable device. Oh, I remember that. Oh, I remember that. Oh, that's so sketch. Okay, okay, okay. Previous seasons, we've been heavily relying on Craigslist. Hardcore. Or buy and sell trade apps. Is it still possible to build a decent gaming rig? What other rules are we including? I don't know. We'll have to hash that out between the two of us a little bit, I think. I'm assuming the one, the ace in the hole is not allowed. I don't remember the name of it. Yeah, you can't go to FreeGeek. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no. And we're also getting rid of FreeGeek similar situations? I think if you and I both do no research, which is what I've done, and we don't look them up online... I don't know any. I don't know any either. I think they're fair game at that point. We have to go to the library and get a phone book. I wouldn't give me any ideas if I were you. All right. So we're going to keep to ourselves what our ideas might be for tackling this. That's pretty crazy. It's going to be really hard. Okay. Yeah, that's going to be interesting. Luckily, the one thing I was actually really worried about for this coming Scrapyard Wars was GPU prices. It looks like that's all resolved. That's coming back down. So I think we dodged that bullet. Because that was actually going to make it impossible or stupid. They were going to be the crappiest Scrapyard Wars PCs yet. Yeah. We would have had to do... Or do the student computer. CPU benchmarks only. Neenan262 in the chat. Sorry, just blowing the dust off my local computer store. Yeah, exactly. Man, this is going to be pretty dumb. Yeah. All right, well, I think that's pretty much it for our WAN Show. Thank you guys for tuning in. See you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. Bye. Oh, we should let people weigh in on whether they want the WAN Show to stay here with the white, orange, and white, or if we want to move over to the hex wall. We haven't painted the hex wall yet, though. I think right now there's a lighting problem or something. Oh, yeah. It's Scarbo. It needs a light on the floor to even it out a little bit. But even your face. And we're also going to have some shelves here. There's going to be some stuff there. Yeah, there's some... Should we strop it right now? Looks like people are starting a hex wall, but they're also getting banned. People want... Oh, no, no, we can ask them next week. Am I even here next week? Hex wall will be really dark. That's something to consider. Well, we're going to paint it red, white, and blue. Not like America style red, white, and blue. I forget how we're planning to do it. White background and then red and blue hexes or something. But bright ones. What we should do is on the WAN show, have a screenshot of here and there and put both of them on screen and then pick one. We could do that. All right. See you. Okay, bye. I just realized I'm sitting on the wrong side.