 Welcome to the belated livestream guys. I'm sorry we ran quite late today We had a number of complications as you may or may not have noticed We've had some changes in scenery over the last little while where Slick and I were streaming from my garage And then we were streaming from my garage But a different part of my garage because we had torn apart the livestream set in order to make room for our Intel build guide Then I think we went back to the usual livestream spot but I actually am not a hundred percent sure about this then we were gone and we were in Taiwan and we did no livestream and Now I'm here slick is not here. He is on a plane right now. He's probably actually it's probably landing sometime soon So I should just be like hey, why aren't you at work? But then he'll probably be like hey, I go to sleep and I'll be like what you have to sleep You don't even sleep and then the conversation will kind of go downhill from there But but yeah, so he's gonna be home very very soon, but he's not able to join me this time And as you guys may or may not have noticed we've got a bit of a change of scenery here So I'm gonna shift a little bit this way. No, I want this way. Yeah, okay I'm still under the microphone should still all be good. But yeah, we've got a little bit of a change of scenery We are at the new Linus tech tips HQ, which I did a tour of oh Crap do I have I'm not monitoring the stream or anything. Am I let's see It's call slick put him on the stream So yeah, we are in the new Linus media group digs which I showcased in a giveaway video not that long ago So if you've seen that then great if you haven't seen that then you haven't seen it Maybe I'll do a tour Maybe I'll do a formal tour of it once we have it set up somewhat properly So this is where we'll be filming all of our unboxings from now on as well as all of our well all of our other videos because quite frankly I am so tired of having Linus media group in my house taking over my life You guys have no idea how much space it takes up with all the computer stuff all the cases all the workstations I mean walk around your house and then picture you have to have anywhere between four and five people with like Workstations set up and then you have to have video sets and like try to figure out where those would go and then imagine You have a one-year-old baby who gets into everything and cats that get into everything Rumble has been so annoying since we moved the company to to my house So he is that he has been a very Very very challenging piece of work. So let's get into some topics here We're gonna do a lot more Q&A than we usually do because I don't have the sort of gorgeous You know towering presence of slick to converse with me So I guess I'll have to talk to you guys, which is which is great, which is exactly what I wanted to do Right now so yeah Moving right along Giveaways. Yes the meme contest so we had a meme contest on the Linus tech tips forum and the winners have been announced However, the original Idea was that we were giving away a copy of Mass Effect 2 now What happened was that copy of Mass Effect 2? accidentally got sort of kicked in the head somewhere along the line someone like Someone janked it somehow or whatever else so we don't have it anymore So what I did was I got my hands on three never settle bundles, which means you're gonna get crisis 3 Tomb Raider Bioshock infinite something like that. So you're gonna get a never settle bundle Can't remember exactly which games are in it, but they're good Don't worry They're part of never settle and we picked three winners because I was at Computex and someone handed me three never settle coupons and they were like, hey, here you go And I was like, hey, I already have these games cuz I'm Linus So I have like lots of copies of these games Well, no, I have enough for me and I have enough for slick and enough for diesel So I've already I've already had three at some point So I was like, oh well, this is great because now I have a prize for the meme contest So I'm gonna show you guys the winning memes slick never got back to me So he got no votes in terms of the winners. So I picked the winners So if you guys don't like it, then you can email I don't care at linusmedia group com and we will take care of that Never no, I'm just sorry. I'm just like you guys in all seriousness though These were the ones that maybe they weren't the best quality or maybe they weren't whatever, you know But they were the ones that sort of tickled me the most so I I decided to go with these ones Here we go winner number one The Text story love it. So puppet you are a winner. In fact, I will PM you right now and tell you that you are a winner Thank you for playing you win. Send me a message Congrats You win the meme contest ping me back and I'll give you your code Code pardon the typos puppet if you're watching but there you go you won you get a never settle bundle from AMD So good job next up we have Okay, yeah Twitter's confusing me right now so next up we have I'm gonna load this one up before I actually navigate to it this time. I swear sometimes Google Docs I don't know what to do with you If you don't press enter after a link then it isn't a link. So that makes a gosh darn ton of sense So okay. No, no, not the old forums one that one I actually didn't like that much but these this other one is from HK six This is from I believe slicks first live stream or second live stream. This is from when he broke his well, they didn't break anything, but he hurt his shoulder quite badly in a bike accident and I don't know. This just this just made me laugh This picture is very captionable and part of what I liked about this one is that He actually went to the trouble to dig up this picture from one of the very early live stream So either either he's one of those people who sort of obsessively screenshots anything that's amusing as they go through life Which is great or he actually remembered this moment somehow and anyway that that made me laugh So I'm gonna message HK six right now. Let him know that he's a big winner winner winner meme contest Good work Message me back. Just want to make sure that he's actually still active on the forum or whatever else and that to get your prize Because otherwise we can save the prize for someone else who's actually still active on the forum because being active on the forum is what winners Do next up we've got this one. I mean this one I just this couldn't not win So this is the Linus Media Group Return of the Jedi Thing and I mean honestly this one probably shouldn't have won because there are clearly People in this picture who are not members of Linus Media Group. Okay And I think it's actually very debatable whether or not my cat is actually a member of Linus Media Group but the thing that the thing that really made this one work for me was the was the diesel as Princess Leia because Well, that's just totally inappropriate and I love it. So let's go ahead. That's a young man Matt So we're gonna send young man Matt his message. Congratulations you win the meme contest and Thank you everyone for playing Message me back for your prize actually the the codes are at home So that's why I can't just send them the codes now But thank you everyone very much for playing slick and I and actually my wife actually all had a very very good laugh at a lot Of the pictures in there. Some of them weren't technically memes, but for the most part they were quite funny Anyway, so we've had a big controversy actually, you know what? Let's do some Twitter Q&A just because apparently Apparently a parent. Oh, okay. Yes. Yes, Sean. I will be talking next-gen console I know we haven't had a live stream since some of the early news started coming in about Xbox one E3 has been going on this week so that oh, this is so uncomfortable. I just figured out why my butt sore I have an SSD in my pocket. It's like yeah that hurts. So what's in my other pocket? Let's play What's all I do have the game codes? Look at that. I can tell you what games there Crisis 3 Tomb Raider Bioshock infinite and Devil May Cry apparently I don't have Devil May Cry So one of them might come without the Devil May Cry. So yeah, there you go. You'll you'll I don't know I'll make it up to you somehow Yes, I will be talking next-gen console in fact Some of my opinions might be a little bit unpopular and a little bit against the grain of what most people think about the whole Xbox one PS4 Sort of head-to-head right now But stay tuned for that close the blinds behind you the bottom is light in the top is darkest driving me crazy Joshua just for you. I'm gonna leave those blinds exactly the way they are does b-roll have Twitter Yes, b-roll does have Twitter b-rolls Twitter is B-roll underscore the intern or something like that if you look I follow b-roll on Twitter So you should be able to you should be able to find that there I got my dad a Seagate Wireless Plus for his birthday and he loves it I think you mean Seagate because Samsung doesn't have a Wireless Plus I love my Wireless Plus to mine actually died on our trip to Computex unfortunately though So I'm gonna have to RMA that it's not accepting a charge anymore. So these things happen Yeah None of a true nerd when you carry an SSD in your back pocket. Yes I know just in case you have to it's like you never know so it's another joke from that The ultimate tech backpack video that we made apparently none of them were technically memes No, I'm pretty sure some of them were but I don't think any of the winners were Hi Linus. Now you have a new office with spare room. You could charge slick rent to stay there Um, yeah, I could if I wanted to do that I mean, you know I don't know that we want to share any space with slick and I we will be renting out the basement suite However, I will not be posting an ad on Craigslist because it was a huge disaster when I posted an ad trying to sell my motorcycle on Craigslist because a bunch of you Yahoo's got a hand got your hands on my phone number, which in retrospect I should have used a someone sent me a fantastic app They sent it to me on my phone because they had my phone number now where you can get like burnable phone numbers It costs a couple bucks or something like that. And that is what I recommend using for Craigslist ads now But I it's okay though because as of today my bike is not working Because as of today my bike is officially back on the road. I decided I don't really care about a 4k monitor I mean looking at how much 4k monitors are coming down in price already Asus has their new 4k monitor, which is based on the same panel tech as sharps I mean, it's using an IGSO panel. So gee, I wonder where they got an IGSO panel from so it's using the same panel as sharps monitor It looks fantastic. I saw it at CE our Computex, which I'm like was really tempting But I'm looking at how much 4k is dropping already in terms of price Not touching it until it probably gets closer to around a thousand or fifteen hundred dollars And that's uh, that's when that's when I'll drop some money on it So what that means is I no longer have to make a deal with my wife where I sell my bike to get a 4k monitor So bikes going back on the road Also part of the reason I had decided against the bike was I was planning to keep Linus Media Group running out of my house For a longer period of time maybe a year or two so if I don't have anywhere to commute to and I don't really have a life because I have a baby and I run my own business I figured I didn't really need the bike because I didn't have to go anywhere But now if I'm gonna be commuting to our new office, then I will I will need I will need the bike Need it so I will you do an iSwitch to iOS 7 probably not I think I'm kind of done with iOS 7 I guess I could the thing for me is that Like I don't I don't know if this is the case with everyone, but I actually use my phone for actual work and the inconvenience factor that comes about when switching phones and platforms all the time is Has been a big problem for me during the iSwitch so Yeah, I Don't know I was using my I was using my iPhone 4 while I was over at Computex just because I had to carry two phones my my HTC one is Unlocked so I was able to use that for my Taiwan sim So I got a SIM card while I was over there so I could get unlimited data. It's like 30 bucks. It costs nothing It's awesome. It's just like a pay-as-you-go unlimited data Unlimited text and like 350 minutes of calling. I'm just who uses their phone this much, but then I did because it was unlimited It's awesome and then I was also carrying my iPhone 4 because I put my bell sim in there so that in the event that Someone who doesn't pay any attention did text me while I was over there I would actually get the messages so I was using the iPhone again for a little bit It's not that bad for someone who's a light phone user like me It's still very functional But I'm not expecting iOS 7 to run very well on the iPhone 4 and I'm certainly not spending money on an iPhone 5 or an iPhone 5s or something like that, so I really just doubt it's gonna happen What changes are you planning for your new pad? I am definitely planning to have some storage space Which is great because I don't really have that at my place. I am definitely planning to make some Regular sets for things like unboxing I know you guys kind of like the randomness some of you do some of you don't where sometimes we're unboxing in the middle Of a field and sometimes we're on a rooftop and sometimes we're just sort of in all these places but it would be great for the sake of Consistency to have it in one place because then we don't have to fight with the lighting every time and fight with the audio Set up every time and we won't have so many errors in them So so that's something that that we really need to do I also need somewhere where we can film fast as possible much more quickly We're working on ways that we can smooth out fast as possible a fair bit and one of the ways that we're gonna do that I know you guys don't like things being scripted But the reality of it is for something like fast as possible where efficiency is of utmost importance Compared to an unboxing where we won't really be using this except for Hold on Where we won't really be using this except like if we have some random like specs or something but I can put on there like if I can't remember exactly how many stream processors the Radeon ht gtx whatever the heck it happens to be has it'll be great to be able to put a couple notes on there for me But for something like fast as possible where we have to condense the information as much as we possibly can Using something like a teleprompter is fantastic. So this is our new teleprompter. We spent like 750 bucks on it It's no wonder I have no money, right? and what this will do is it'll save us an immense amount of time and It'll allow us to tighten up fast as possible to the point where it really will be as fast as possible So we have an upcoming video coming up on the tech quickie channel, which if you're not subscribed to already go subscribe tech quickie It's gonna be decimal versus binary as fast as possible And the video is only about two minutes and change long Which is really cool because I think we actually adequately covered that difference between Megabytes and maybe bytes and terabytes and tippy bytes and we didn't really go into the very fine details But we gave I hope the viewer a solid understanding of why this discrepancy exists in about two minutes Which we wouldn't be able to do without scripting it. So There you go. That's one of the changes we're planning. I definitely need like a cool gamer den So when we're doing things like after party or gaming streams I want to have like a pouch and you know, like a TV and maybe I don't know maybe a console or something Maybe put a computer and we'll put a computer next to the TV there. Okay But if we ever did decide to stream some console games, I do own both an Xbox 360 and a ps3. I Don't even know I was trying I was trying to turn the Xbox 360 on the Xbox 360 I was trying to turn the Xbox 360 on the other day and I was trying to figure out if like there was a power switch on the back or if there was like Some kind of a trick to it I mean it turned out that there was a light switch that controlled that particular power outlet So it wasn't actually my fault that I legit couldn't figure out how to turn it on It's like I actually I don't know how to do this b-roll because he's more of a console guy than me anyway Why a CRT monitor I am NOT using a CRT monitor guys It is a trick of the light see there you go LCD monitor. There is Definitely a trick I have a CRT monitor But that's only for game streams because the input lag drives me crazy on LCDs when I'm trying to play platformers so let's go ahead and Turn off my phone because that is going to be a real problem Actually, it's been less of an issue lately because I've just been systematically blocking every single person where I don't recognize their number when they call me so Yeah, it was only a few yahoos who caused problems Someone asks if I'm still associated with NCIX at all. Yeah, I still I still do work oops I I still do work for them, so I still am I'm still the host of NCIX tech tips at least a lot of the videos That are on there I don't know if you guys noticed, but we actually made some exclusive Computex coverage videos for NCIX so we reserved a few of the really cool booths like Intel AMD and Microsoft For the NCIX tech tips channel so it was part of their sponsorship deal that had them helping send us over there So I don't I don't have a paycheck from NCIX anymore, but we're still we still work together on things I still have a lot of friends there You know I still highly encourage you guys to buy your computer hardware there. It's not like the way that we Parted ways was in any way negative or anything like that so that I still fully support everything They're doing and they do the same for me, so no it's it's really really good You don't have to you don't have to you know work somewhere nine to five in order to have a good relationship with them, so All right now this highly controversial topic Ahem and I just want to take some time to explain this I posted a thread in the forum Asking should we post the booth babe video? So Linus Media Group did create a video of the booth babes at Computex 2013 It was honestly it was the last thing we did it was by popular demand And we had some viewers be upset that we were going to publish this and so I posted And so I posted a poll and I basically said look unless an overwhelming majority of the forum users Want this video? I don't think it makes sense because You know it It's one of those it's one of those things where some people will feel very offended by it whereas others Feel very offended that anyone thinks it's a big deal at all, but at the end of the day It's a very polarizing issue So it seemed to me that the safest thing to do was that unless like literally everyone was okay with it I was just gonna leave it and then the other thing that I did was I read through Every single post in that thread all 11 pages of it 19 pages of it lots of pages all 19 pages of it And I looked at what people's arguments were and to me the strongest argument was not sexism this or or Sexism that or whatever else because quite frankly I'm not an expert on any of that stuff The part that really stuck out to me was that this is a tech channel. We've never really done that before I mean if we wanted to we could replace Linus in fact if you guys wanted to you could watch videos on CMHD or there's at least a couple of other tech channels I've seen in the past that do news and they do product videos where it's a busty chick and She doesn't necessarily know anything about the product which happens to be the case With most of the booth babes that we encountered while we were there But the reality of it is you guys are subscribed to me, and I'm not that attractive but That's what we do we do the tech well not the tech the tech is Logan's thing But we we cover the technology we talk about the technology we aren't attractive at least I'm not attractive My understanding is slick is very attractive, so we cover the technology, and we've never really We've never really gone down that path before so why why are we doing this and I thought it was a very good point However, I've had a lot of people say look Linus come on You're not going to show it to us at all so I'm gonna I'm going to give you guys some highlights from it here in the live stream if you so are so inclined otherwise guys tune out for a couple minutes and We will be back shortly so here. I'm just gonna. I'm gonna have to go find it because I don't not a hundred percent sure Where it is anymore? Here it is Computex 2013 So I'm going to go ahead. I'm going to grab that screen capture I'm actually starting to really like X split I was having trouble with it before and now it's now I'm a big fan Now it just kind of works for me, so there you go guys Okay, so play oh a PlayStation ad you guys have to oh let me know in the twitch chat if the audio is okay I have no idea if the YouTube audio videos are all right Something yeah, I know right I hope I get money for that ad even though. I'm the one watching it So Computex coverage so so basically I just had slick and b-roll run around at the show I mean, there's nothing gratuitous about it by any stretch of the imagination So there's the q-nap girls Okay, well b-roll got a little bit into that one They're waving I forget where she's from I forget where they're from say something can't remember That's that pcs. I have no idea. I actually wasn't with them when uh When they did this whole thing so basically that's as rock can't remember who that is But they just kind of walked around the show got some got some videos people saying hi holding products This guy's awesome. This guy's a rock star. We actually did a uh we did like a like a Wow Wow, yeah b-roll got kind of into him too, so we actually did like um Like a mock thing of his like superman pc thing Someone's like go yeah twitch chat. It's like go back to superman go back to superman Uh, this was the wd booth wd. I know for a fact actually imported her from like russia Uh because apparently it's hard to find blondes in taiwan She was awesome. She actually made me a balloon animal which is pretty cool I think that I think that the definition of of babes got stretched a little bit with superman and the uh the jokers here But there you go guys so like I said there was nothing there was nothing sort of like you know Crazy scandalous about it by any stretch of the imagination But at the end of the day if if it's gonna upset any of the viewers it's probably not worth it And like I said we've never really gone down that path before And I think that there's room for us to have include you know the booth Attractions so to speak everything about it whether it's a motherboard with water getting poured on it or whether it's You know an attractive young man or attractive young lady holding a product Then there's room for us to include that as part of the booth coverage But it's just not really something we've done in the past so maybe we integrate it later on down the road Um you know at the next event or whatever else the case may be So let's see how upset twitter is at me now that uh that I've gone ahead and I've apparently I've apparently shown the uh Yeah, no one seems to care so there you go guys. It's one of those things where there's sometimes There just isn't really a clear right answer But now I've compromised and that is all we are going to do Okay This is fantastic so I've had people tweeting me all day Telling me this scandalous shocker of a news story Linus did you hear about this the xbox one demos at e3 were running on pcs Really Really you mean the hardware of the xbox one Wasn't done before they had to develop games for it Oh, no, but linus you don't understand they're running on high-end pcs with the They're running on high-end pcs with nvidia graphics cards and I go Really? You mean an x86 platform? Is being emulated by an x86 platform and a direct x11 graphics solution is being emulated by a direct x11 graphic solution Wow, and you mean hold on hold on hold on so you mean we need a little bit of over We need a little bit of like extra hardware muscle in order to simulate Something else that actually isn't finished yet Are you serious about all this come on guys? It happens every time i'm gonna you know I haven't done it yet, but i'm gonna google it now. I'm gonna see if I can you know see if I can find this Um because i'm pretty sure i've seen this before ps3 Uh demo running on pc or something like that. Let's see if we can find a really old news story 2013 yeah, no none of this is none of this is old enough ps3. Um um pre-launch demo running on pc Now 2009 none of this is old enough, but guys come on we go through this every time Yes, the dev kits are pc's the reason for that is that the hardware is not finalized for the consoles yet And I mean look at how closely microsoft and sony are keeping these things to their chests Sony announced the console without even showing us what it looks like okay microsoft announced the console Showed us the console um Nobody had leaked it yet the fact that nobody's leaked it means that Very few people were actually hands-on with it. I mean you look at something like video cards Every video card launch there's always a leak I can tell you guys now that i'm one of the top ones on the list in north america to get any new Nvidia graphics card and We are finally hooked up at amd my 7990 arrived So expect some videos to be coming from that about that once the uh, once the team arrives back from korea So really excited about that anyway I I find about about I find out about new graphics cards from leaks online not from nvidia telling me about it So the kinds of people like the kind of small circle of people that know about something before it's Generally sort of rumored and out there Um, yeah, nobody had seen an xbox one basically until microsoft announced it Outside of like a select few probably within microsoft like it wouldn't even surprise me If like below the vp or director level even at major partners like ea Nobody even knew it was going to be called xbox one or anything like that. So so there you go guys. Um Finally accepted linus's hotter than tasty pc. I really think that is open for debate. Um, mr Mr Mvittken on the twitch chat. I really don't think that that happens to be the case at all But anyway, there you go guys That is my sort of take on it If anything we should be less surprised than usual that the demos are running on pc's Because this generation of consoles is more like pc's than anything we've ever seen before I mean back when it was power pc cores and cell processor Yeah, it was a little surprising that demos were running on pc's now. I mean come on. They are pc's Yeah I will be floored if we don't have xbox one emulators and ps4 emulators very quickly this time around compared to Previous generations just because they're so similar Uh, all right, so let's move on to the next topic here I actually had to do all my prep for this last night and I relied very heavily on the forum for this So guys you rock everyone who posts in the news section on the forum you guys all rock and don't if I didn't pick One of your topics then please don't take it the wrong way, but these are the ones I picked so whorevaf93 Thank you very much for this topic amd stepping up their game So part of amd's big announcement at e3 this year was blah blah blah blah blah marketing speak today We are proud to announce that battlefield 4 will be exclusively optimized for amd radio and gpus With that said expect nvidia to have like a patch within like a week. They always do it's not like ea is going to ignore nvidia because You know they optimized a game for amd and I I see a lot of sort of I see a lot of this stuff Where people are like oh linus. Why did you benchmark that game with nvidia versus amd? It's an nvidia game or it's an amd game By like a couple of weeks after launch nvidia and amd have both pretty much optimized for it at that point with a few notable Exceptions things like crisis 2 and that crossfire bug that was a big issue for a long time These are sort of the weird exceptions that exist, but those are very unusual So let's go back to this Optimized for amd radio and gpus amd a series apus and amd fx Cpus ea and dice have collaborated to ensure frostbite 3 based titles like the f4 look and run their best on amd hardware Etc etc etc We have also partnered with square enix to exclusively optimize thief for amd radio and gpus and amd fx cpus So this to me actually the coolest thing about all of this has nothing to do with the radion side of the business because Optimizing games for gpus before launch is common sense amd and nvidia both work really hard with game devs To make sure that the games are going to run correctly on their hardware on day zero The part that really excited me about that was this optimized for apus and optimized for fx cpus What does that mean because optimized for a cpu totally means nothing? Optimized for a cpu means it like is optimized for x86 which is intel or amd it makes pretty much no difference Unless there's some kind of an instruction set like back when sse 2 was introduced that gets a major benefit From something that they've implemented in the game unless there's something like that Then yeah, no it's not a thing but optimizing for ap or fx could mean that because the next-gen consoles are so PC like in their architecture and because they're going to be using multicore amd apus We could be looking at optimization for multicore in a way that we've never seen before because even though the last generation consoles used three core and however many cell processors ps3 had who cares because it was so difficult for devs to code for That it like it like the power of it was so difficult to harness That's why ps3 games looked so much better throughout the life cycle of the console not because it was getting more powerful Just because they were like wrapping their brains around how the hell do we put a game on this thing? But these next-gen consoles running x86 processors multicore processors We could finally be looking at a situation where we are fully leveraging our PCs which is very cool, and I'm extremely excited about because things like the lack of Environmental physics have been driving me crazy for years. Why isn't this working? Why isn't this so immersive and such a core part of gameplay yet? And the answer was because consoles were holding us back Not the case anymore now. They're going to be running such a similar architecture So we could be seeing open cl or multicore optimizations for games that are going to allow us to have all kinds of much cooler AI and weather effects and physics simulations and all that really really exciting stuff And that to me is the exciting thing about that announcement on the AMD gaming Facebook page, so there you go That's my take on that and I'm going to segue into one of the other two videos One of the other topics aha there it is and this was posted by that Sure, whatever jawad quizzy quasar sure fine And that is Nvidia saying Xbox one and PlayStation 4 are great news for gaming PCs because a lot of people out there Are sort of running around saying oh well Nvidia doesn't have anything positive to look at about these upcoming consoles they're both AMD AMD are actually all three of them are running AMD graphics hardware and All three of them well not all three of them we use like not great in terms of graphics performance But the other two are going to be very competitive with an entry-level gaming PC So I mean is Nvidia not going to be selling as many graphics cards on the desktop the answer is no The answer is this is awesome And the way that Nvidia explains that I think is very clear and the funny I mean the funny thing to me about this article It's actually an article that was linked from the verge, and I kind of went oh Mainstream media you guys are so funny because I really don't think there's anyone in the IT space You know whether it's whether it's a Tom's hardware, or whether it's you know you know reviews by Jeff.com The largest and the smallest I don't think there's anyone in the actual PC space that could have seen more powerful consoles as anything but a positive thing, but the verge felt the need to report on this and This is Nvidia's fancy little graph that goes Here let's zoom in bloop bloop bloop New consoles raise the bar and this is important because raising the bar between the best performance That's available on a PC and the performance that's available on consoles I mean look at how they've diverged with PCs becoming so much more powerful over time Raising the bar means that we can implement new technologies in the games with the assumption that a large part of the install base Is going to be able to use them. I mean this is This is the only way to get around companies like Blizzard that make every game as if every computer on the planet Needs to be able to run it Whereas now instead of and and before we treated consoles like computers So there's this huge install base of people had to be able to run this game and while you can go okay Well the PC version you can have anti-aliasing you can have higher resolutions You can have better texture packs and all these things at the end of the day You couldn't program like the most sophisticated AI in the world because it was going to make the consoles chug And you can't have like PC AI and console AI because then you're doing two completely different development paths For the same freaking game which is going to destroy the overhead involved in what are already multi multi bazillion dollar Undertakings particularly for these triple-a titles, so this is sort of Nvidia's thing is check this out Back when we had GTX 680 as the cream of the crop and it was up against PS3 and Xbox 360 We were looking at a thirteen point two percent difference which meant that anything any game release that had to run cross-platform had to be crippled because Nothing will run Optimally on this when it has to run optimally on this too I mean we're talking a 10x difference plus in terms of performance whereas now Nvidia's saying well check this out now between GTX Titan Which by the way is a thousand dollar graphics card and PS4 which by the way is only a 399 console more on that later Now we have only a two and a half times difference, so we'll be able to they'll be able to make a game That's awesome and runs great on PS4 But runs even better on PC and you get that extra eye candy and those tweaks there But we're not being like like held down by this like horrible horrible machine That's just not even close anymore, which is extremely exciting So I'm gonna go back to Twitter Q&A for a little bit here guys And if you want to talk to me then I guess you can do that I'm actually kind of kind of super excited about something that I'm talking to someone about But we're thinking of maybe finding a way And I don't know how it's gonna work we might have to have some special tweaks to the software or whatever else I have no idea how we're gonna do this But I'd love to find a way to open up phone boards so that you guys can actually call in and talk on the live stream And there's gonna be some more overhead involved for us We'll probably have to have like what radio shows do where there's an operator that that actually takes the calls and screens them before they go live and We'll figure out sort of how to make that work Or I can just take over and I can do a segment while slick screens the next caller or whatever else We'll figure out a way to make it work But I'd love to have you guys interact live through voice rather than limiting it to just text interaction So I'm really excited about that. I had a I had a conversation with The guys there on my way here today, and then we're gonna have a follow-up call Monday And I think that's gonna be really cool So let me know if you're excited about that as well guys because it's gonna be awesome someone asks best desk The one with legs that's the right height I Really like the vert desk. That's that adjustable desk. It's like $900 or something like that So it might be out of reach for some people, but I mean honestly you're asking the wrong person about furniture You guys are gonna be super okay the table. I'm using right now is some horrible Ikea Thing that's like the worst thing I've ever seen in my life one of the legs is legit broken off It's propped under it And then I put the table on it and then it's just like held in place by like the pressure of the table And then this is my chair right now Like yeah, that that is legitimately what I'm sitting on for the live stream. I have no furniture here yet, so don't ask me Will AMD make a GPU to battle with Titan They might not make a single GPU card, but they certainly have the Radeon 7990 Which is positioned against Titan in terms of price point AMD really has to get their their frame rating fixed driver going, but it should be sometime later this summer or early fall and 7990 is a legitimate competitor at that point yeah, not in terms of power consumption You know it's probably not in terms of heat output or Yeah, okay, well not I Mean the thing about Titan and the thing about GPUs you guys is that it's funny because Consumers seem to think that when an AMD releases something and video like quickly engineers a solution and like combats it no no I mean Titan 7970 These cards are in development for two three years before they actually make it to market So it's not like if AMD strategy which it has been since 3000 series if AMD strategy is let's build smaller GPUs and address the high end with a dual GPU solution So you look at that's how it's been 3870x2 4870x2 5970 and 6990 and I can't remember they keep changing the numbering schemes why But that's been their strategy, so how are they going to counter Nvidia having a huge single GPU card? Well, they don't they don't have one so Whether or not they decide to do that in the next couple of generations We'll have to see but it'll be a couple years before we find out if AMD is going to fundamentally change their strategy Which by the way has been working pretty well for them as someone who was on the retail side not that long ago There have been times in the last few years where Like it's been rough for the red team and now is not one of those times so there you go I don't know how much of that is I don't know how much of that is never settled and how much of that is the hardware the better drivers But it's been it's been very solid Do you think you'll be able to overclock a PS4 Xbox one I doubt it The time on your pick is still synced with China time yeah, yeah probably I can't keep track of which of my clocks are right and which of them are wrong at this point Right angle 24 pin power connector any thoughts it's non-standard So it'll be great for some cases and not so good for other ones slick is on a plane Why no cat tips ah it's It's hard to prioritize making videos about the cats when quite honestly not that many people watch them and It's not that easy like it it feels like I am for a while there I was like oh, let's try and do a cat video every day I mean their videos of cats it can't be that hard the reality of it is it is that hard because even though they do Something interesting every day, it's very difficult to catch it have you ever tried to give a cat a command Rubble do that thing you were just doing It'd be like meow So I'd end up with a lot of videos of rumble being like meow and that's it that's all I'd have so it's very very difficult Apparently okay, okay, okay, okay tech fanatic says you featured two of my news stories before and you forgot to mention my name So there consider this a mention of your name you're awesome, too Can we get an update on my PC? It's done. It's just a matter of making a video about it I just need like little finishing pieces for around the outside of the window and slits PC is nothing special right now I've been ragging on him to put his gtx 670 that I Intentionally I purposefully obtained a water block for him for it, and he never actually put in his computer What's better Nvidia or AMD Intel or AMD? I actually have videos about this I'm gonna do you the I'm gonna do you a big favor here, and I'm gonna Google them for you So actually I'm not gonna Google them for you. I'm gonna YouTube search which is even better So check this out because I have covered these topics Intel versus AMD I'm willing to bet BAM first hit Intel versus AMD 586,000 people watch that video AMD versus Nvidia BAM first hit 256,000 people have found that video so you should too Go ahead check it out the answer if you don't want to watch those videos is that there is one Can you explain why the comments are disabled in Slick's keyboard incident video? The reason for that is that we're not it's not open for discussion There was a lot of support from the community about saying that oh well you know Armageddon's wrong You know I trust Linus and Slick their video was right the original video is probably right Armageddon's probably Twisting their arms to make this video. No we were wrong So it's actually very very detrimental to have the community siding with us on this When the point of what we're trying to do is explain that we were wrong apologize for being wrong And undo any damage that might have been done to Armageddon's reputation because we were wrong So that is why comments are disabled because it would be extremely unhelpful right now for me personally To have people talking about in the comments how Armageddon was unfair and did this and did that It is a very serious problem what we did where we misrepresented the facts So it is very important that people just watch the video listen to what we're saying it is the truth And then just let's try to have this all go away we'll be more diligent in the future We owe it to you guys we owe it to the manufacturers to make sure that we are as accurately as possible representing the facts But it is not open for discussion anymore it's done So that's why there are no comments on that one Do I have any official do I have any original thoughts on Microsoft's response to people who don't have an internet connection I don't think there's really much room for an original thought on it there's only really one thought Seriously Microsoft really? I mean even the way that I look at almost any other solution I mean Valve is of course the golden standard Actually this I think this is one of my news topics but I guess I'll just get into it now Valve is the golden standard in terms of treating customers correctly sort of They've done things that have been extremely unpopular in the past as well no used games People did not like that at first that was a big problem big controversy back in the day Having to check in having to sign in I mean when valve was pushing steam Always on internet connections broadband connections were not as big of a thing as they are now This is a big point of contention between gamers and valve with people vowing I will never install steam I will never give a penny of my money to this company Whereas now we look at steam as like you know God's gift to gamers and personally I love it Not having to keep track of CDs I don't remember the last time I installed a game off a CD it's ridiculous Like it just seems like absurd now and going back to the console concept for me of installing games off of a disc Is just kind of backwards it's like well can I just download it and have it tied to my account Like to me it's not that crazy the problem with Microsoft's approach right now is how often it needs to check in That to me is a big concern because even steam will run for a pretty reasonable period of time in single-player games Without logging in even things like Adobe Creative Cloud so Linus Media Group routed the game Linus Media Group rather than investing in individual licenses of Adobe products has recently switched over to Creative Cloud So it's their subscription based service where much like Office 365 we don't have to worry about updates We don't have to worry about having out of date software we don't have to worry about paying a massive chunk of money up front To acquire the software and we don't have to worry obviously about you know the illegality of pirating software When you're doing professional work with it so we got Creative Cloud and it's awesome Creative Cloud works without checking in for at least a couple days I know because I tried it I had it on a laptop So I had Broll's Creative Cloud logged into my laptop so we could install it there so he could use it And then he was using it on the plane and then in Taiwan without logging in without validating or going online in any way For at least a couple days which is great I mean I'm never really away from internet long enough that Two or three days or five days is going to be a problem but having it single day is I mean I really hope they backpedal on this I think there's a lot of room for Microsoft to undo the damage that they've done over the last little while By just going you know what we hear you and we're sorry and here are the concessions we're going to make The living room is still very important to us and they're right the living room is extremely important Sony don't imagine for a... okay I'm going to be getting into one of my other topics so why don't we just Blah blah blah blah blah No okay this isn't quite one of my other topics okay so don't imagine for a second Sony doesn't want to own the living room too if you can... okay here I mean using PS3 as a streamer For video hello owning the living room I mean they're both moving towards that content consumption As well as gaming model don't imagine for a second that just because Microsoft is the one talking about it Doesn't mean that they aren't both doing it also don't imagine for a second that somehow Sony is a white knight in all of this They are taking advantage of some major PR blunders on Microsoft's side and yes I have been one to... I mean If you guys saw my tweets during the Xbox One reveal I was ripping on it as hard as anyone But at the end of the day Sony sitting there going oh well this is great because what Microsoft's doing right now Is they are paving the way for us to do the same thing look at what's going on with their online services So how upset were people initially when Microsoft wanted you to have a gold membership in order to play games online Over time they got used to it they accepted it I think I've gotten away from the living room thing And I've gotten into that other topic that I was looking at just there but owning the living room Yeah don't imagine they don't want to do it okay whatever I'm just going to tangent off here Because that's apparently what's going on now so okay so look at paying for the online service Sony kind of took the high road and went well we don't charge for ours blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah Well hey next gen guess what they're charging and their charge is going to be very similar to what Microsoft implemented So if you think for a second that anything that Microsoft's doing right now If it turns out that it works and gamers accept it if you think for a second Sony isn't going to implement it Whether it's sometime during the life cycle of the PS4 or sometime later you are wrong You're 100% wrong because they will that's the way that a duopoly works And quite frankly Nintendo is so far out of the game at this point and so far behind on online That they're completely irrelevant in the context of this conversation Sony will follow suit they will do check ins they will limit used game sales but they might do it with PS5 It's just a matter of time and at the end of the day there's nothing inherently wrong to me With tying a game to an account to a person as opposed to tying it to a physical piece of medium Or in the case of what Nintendo did on the original Wii with the classic console and all that stuff Where they tied it to the actual piece of hardware I mean that was ludicrous And that didn't get nearly the same negative buzz that Microsoft's getting over what they're doing with the one So mostly to me it looks like Microsoft is trying to do too much too fast They are upsetting their core audience which happens to be gamers sort of Their very vocal audience happens to be gamers but there are people who will buy Xbox's who aren't gamers So they're upsetting their very vocal audience and they are giving Sony so much ammo I mean the Sony video was um... I mean it was opportunistic because it ignores the advantages of account based title ownership So I'm going to play it here just because it's in one of the threads on the forum at least I thought it was here Anyway so Sony created a cute little video showing you how to share a game on the PlayStation Which was basically just one guy handing a game to another one And I mean that's cute but it...hold on I think I clicked the wrong thing or maybe I put the wrong link in there Something like that I mean that's cute and all that but at the end of the day Yeah Sony wants your money just as bad as Microsoft does An interesting point that was made whether it was by Microsoft employee or whether it wasn't Was that what tying the license to the person does much like the way... Guys remember we accept this from Valve much like the way Steam does not allowing you sales I mean they don't allow it at all never mind having a fee for it and allowing you to do it They don't allow it at all what it does is it allows more money to go to the game dev potentially And less money to be subsidizing like additional licenses down the road Like why are we giving GameStop money for this and at the end of the day Okay hold on the argument could be made while Xbox One games are probably going to be $59.99 I'll be surprised if AAA titles hold at $59.99 or even $69.99 over the near future Because you look at how much they cost to make Look at how much money is being hemorrhaged by companies like Square Enix Look at how few developers are even left in the game and I'll be floored I mean you look at...gamers are willing to pay $99.99 plus for something like a limited edition You know Halo 18 or whatever we're up to now in terms of the Halo series That comes with you know a plastic Master Chef helmet or whatever the case may be They're willing to pay it they've been testing the water on this for a long time Expect it games are going to go up in price and if we can prevent that By preventing used sales I don't know maybe I'm okay with that I don't know I mean the reality of it is I haven't bought a console game since Mario Kart Wii And then I hadn't bought a console game before that since Super Nintendo Maybe I'm just the wrong person to talk to about all this but I love Steam I love the way the marketplace works there I love the way that game pricing is dictated By maintaining a solid run rate for the game devs So games end up actually priced like what they're worth as opposed to You know the packaging involved and the printing of the discs and the marketing materials inside And the logistics of shipping them all over the place and covering the margins for the retailers As far as I'm concerned bye-bye retailers we don't need you anymore This is this is software now bye-bye I mean even the cost of the bandwidth of downloading the game is going to As long as they pass the savings along to the consumer is going to cover what you would have spent Giving a retailer a markup and paying for the logistics of shipping these stupid things all over the place So I think that it just has to move on from the model it is now Microsoft's going to be very unpopular for a little while but at the end of the day they're both going to do it And if you imagine for a second that Sony doesn't want to figure out a way To have you buying Sony movies through the PS4 then you're crazy I mean look at what they did with even what was that stupid console no one cared about the little one Not the Vita the one before that where they wanted you to buy like little discs That you were going to watch movies on I mean come on I've been trying to do that for generations of products now They're not the hero here so there you go There's my unpopular opinion on what's going on with the whole console thing right now Right pricing wise $399 versus $499 if Microsoft can pull off Xbox One being this motion enabled way of interacting with your entire living room That's really cool that's probably worth $100 to me I'm going to let that sink in for a minute Blah blah blah privacy this privacy that as long as the privacy agreement is such that My butt's covered in terms of if I'm sitting there picking my nose There isn't going to be a video of it on YouTube somewhere as long as the bases are covered on that And it's just accepting my gesture inputs or whatever else and I know That they have a patent for how many people are watching the content and whatever else And I'm okay you know I'm going to actually I'm going to launch into that after this as well The patent for charging for content based on how many people are viewing it That could be awesome or it could be terrible so hold on If they can make that work that's going to be incredible It's going to be a completely new way of it I mean look at how hard the TV guys are trying to push this with Samsung Smart TV with their gesture It doesn't work at all the one platform that has a chance of doing this is Xbox One right now And the reason for that is it actually has the horsepower to back it up It's got the 1080p camera it's got the horses it can actually do it It has Microsoft behind it for better or for worse Yeah Microsoft isn't perfect but at the end of the day I'll trust their software more than I'll trust You know Jack's utility unless it's been around for 10 years like something like Filezilla Where you know that it's going to kind of work and it's fairly simple I mean an operating system is phenomenally complex the fact that they are able to do it at all is outstanding So if there's someone who can pull it off Microsoft can pull it off and it is a cool way to interact with your TV in your living room Change the channel volume up volume down Walking away and having things pause I mean if you could set it up I mean imagine this for a second guys If you could set it up so that you configure things in your Xbox One So that when you personally walk away it pauses and when anyone else does it doesn't bother to pause I would do that I don't care if my movie pauses if someone else goes away That's awesome I mean yeah there's problems with it like if I say Hold on I can't remember what it is I can't even remember anymore Whatever I can't even remember how you turn off an Xbox with voice command But I think it's like Xbox off or something like that I mean if I say that and it turns off your live stream right now that's bad But they're gonna figure it out they're gonna find a way to like voice cancel the content That's actually coming out of the Xbox or noise cancel it or something like that They will figure it out and I'm pretty excited for what they can do I mean the problem being that Xbox One isn't as powerful It's not gonna have as much raw power as PS4 in terms of running games But at the end of the day it's not like it's a generation behind We're not talking about the difference between the PS4 is gonna run at 1080p Xbox One is gonna run at 720p and it's gonna be a night and day difference We're gonna be talking about some extra details on PS4 it will look better But neither of them are gonna be anywhere near a PC anyway so whatever It's all still console stuff So crap what was that thing I wanted to launch into It was something to do with it was something to do with Kinect Uh oh oh shoot Okay if anyone in the Twitch chat can tell me what the thing I said I was gonna talk about was Uh come on guys Okay something something something Ah yes yes how many people are watching okay So your initial reaction to this is shock and awe and horror right Imagine if the content companies were charging you for how long you sat in front and watched it Or for how many people you had watching it Now for things like pay per view this is gonna change the whole paradigm for you Where you have 20 buddies come over you get a pizza you have one pay per view and you watch it And that is going to be a real bummer But for some types of content this could be a huge blessing And think about it this way guys it's one of those things where you have accepted this already Okay hold on Going to a movie well you pay for how many people go and you pay for how many people watch the movie Oh okay so you accepted that before Whereas now all of a sudden I'm gonna tell you you're gonna have to pay for how many people watch it in your living room And you kinda go whoa hold on hold on a minute Now assuming that the rates are better depending on how few people watch it this could be awesome If it kinda starts at $19.99 to watch the movie or whatever Netflix charges whatever with their monthly service Or if it starts at what we're used to paying now to have one person watch it and everyone else is an incremental charge That's a big problem But if we're looking at a situation where if it's just me watching it I can pay like two bucks and watch a movie That could be awesome For the forever alone types that could be fantastic For people with big families it could be negative So I think what we have to do with a technology like that is we have to go whoa hold on okay let's find out where they're going with this Because remember guys at the end of the day if for whatever reason you are unhappy with the way that Xbox One implements any of these patents or any of these technologies You don't have to buy one No one has it into your head no one is telling you buy an Xbox One or I'm gonna pop you Because they're not allowed to do that yet But that's the way to vote Anyone who is upset and we said this on the last livestream Anyone who is upset about the way that Xbox One is unfolding or PS4 for that matter if they decide to implement some of these policies or you know all of them or none of them Whatever it is you don't have to buy it just don't buy it If you don't buy it it'll all go away All these problems will go away instantly If nobody if not a single person ran out and paid $19.99 or $24.99 for a Blu-ray movie that would go away The pricing would drop That's how it works I worked in retail you have to move product If you don't sell anything you go out of business So don't buy it and it'll go away And if you do buy it then you're part of the problem So hold on a second You pay extra in a theater to cover the cost of the theater facilities Well you pay extra to consume content because of the cost of producing the content I mean as someone who makes content now I personally benefit more the more people watch it because I get to deliver more ad impressions Well okay now hold on a minute What if someone like some kind of a video streaming service What if they didn't even charge more for the content What if they just got to count more ad impressions if more people were sitting and watching it That's cool because that doesn't pass any cost on to the consumer And it benefits the producers of the content And it benefits advertisers because they have a much better gauge for how many people are watching their content Not everything is tinfoil hat conspiracy theory And like I said Microsoft may implement this in such a way that it costs you $60 to sit and watch a movie with your 18 children They might I don't know And if they do don't buy it And if they don't and if it ends up being something that's very benign and benefits everyone like the scenario I just gave you Well then it's a completely different story Then all of a sudden everyone's going to be clapping their hands going wow Microsoft I can't believe you thought of this This is the best thing ever because now our content I mean okay imagine this Whoa okay here it's like brain explosion Imagine your pay per view was cheaper the more people watched it Because they could deliver more ads or something like that Or you could have an option where you could go oh I'm going to have 30 people here We're going to validate it with connect So we want the pay per view stream for free and feel free to chunk in ads here here and here What if you had options for how to pay for your content So there you go guys might be good might be bad probably bad But I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt because I'm not going to pay for it anyway Alright so let's move on to you know what let's do some Twitter Q&A Because I think I said I was going to do something that I never actually did it so I have no idea what time it is I have no idea if my wife's going to come get me I have no idea how any of this is going to work tonight Apparently I have a missed call hopefully it's not from her Apparently I have a Skype message from one of the mods on the forum Not sure what he wants Competitions okay I can mention that So apparently in the coding section of the Linus Tech Tips forum There is a little coding contest so the first So it's a 100 line program you want to do something So it's called the under 100 line challenge so guys if you're a programmer go check it out That might be fun for you if you're into that sort of thing Okay so someone says hide your friends behind a shroud when watching movies Well okay maybe I mean it's one of those things where if you get caught it might be a problem Much the same way as like well go in the HOV lane or go in the diamond lane Or whatever they call it in your area just put a dummy in the other seat Like people got in trouble for that And I am going to be talking about this that is a big problem That is like a blah that's like I can't even Okay why should you pay more just because more people are in your house Well because more people are watching the content It's not so much why should you pay more It's why should the content creator get more I feel like the more people watch my live stream the more advertising revenue I should get Am I wrong? So it's not always about consumer rights necessarily Sometimes it's about content creator rights or sometimes it's about someone else's rights And if there is a way that Microsoft can do this in a benign way I don't want to keep going on this topic for much longer But if there is a way that Microsoft can do this in a benign way that benefits everyone then it's fantastic But if not then it's a problem and you don't have to buy it there you go Linus come on how would someone ever be able to check in your private home how many is there It's BS and it's never going to happen with the Kinect they have a patent for this read the news Linus are you going to talk about the new Nvidia wickalo display driver killing cards Haven't encountered it yet I might not go out of my way to install it This is actually something that's interesting to me about GeForce experience with automatic driver updates And that's why I personally am going to opt out of the automatic driver updates Because sometimes updated drivers can cause problems particularly with very old titles And since I haven't played a new game in like months sometimes the games that I do play tend to be older titles So it's beneficial for Joe wants to play the latest Call of Duty And beneficial honestly for probably 95% of gamers out there or even more than that But personally I probably won't implement it because I do like to take a bit of a wait and see on the latest drivers I don't know that there's any validity to it it's possible that it is killing cards it's possible that it's not I know there have been situations in the past where there was a driver update that was causing the fans to not go fast enough Which was causing cards that were probably already on the brink of failure to fail prematurely But I have no idea what's going on with this one What do I think about the new Mac Pro that's actually one of the topics I have lined up for later I haven't looked into it enough so I'm going to be taking a very sort of thousand foot view of it But sort of give me some time on that Why is gesture control so amazing if you walk away it pauses really people are too lazy to press a button on a remote It's not about people being too lazy or too not lazy I mean you know the same thing got said about cell phones What people are too you know blah blah blah they can't just you know use a phone in their house yeah Every advancement there are fuddy duddies who don't want to see it so whatever It's going to happen everything in Star Trek will happen at some point so you can fight it all you want but whatever Sony has been king when it comes to proprietary devices like flash on their cameras and their specialist decars and chargers Yep yeah actually Sony has been one of the worst in terms of consumer friendliness with their hardware I mean as someone who has a Sony camera that I'm looking at right now I mean they want money for the firmware update to unlock the 4K functionality that there was no sort of They didn't say it was going to be paid when I bought my camera they want money for the module that they didn't really say anything about They said it would just be an SDI output they want money for the recorder that uses a proprietary card format I mean guys don't pretend Sony is your friend Sony is not your friend Microsoft is not your friend Google is not your friend Apple is not your friend they are not your friends so there you go I'm not your friend for that matter Unless you're watching my live stream in which case I'm definitely your friend Of course they'll try and sell movies considering their focus on 4K players and Blu-ray yeah of course they're going to try and sell movies They want your living room just like Microsoft we don't complain about Steam because the games are cheaper especially with Steam sales Well I'll be interested to see what happens with Xbox One if they do bring us cheaper games then we could be having a very different conversation Steam has awesome sales no one does that with console games stay tuned Yeah but with Steam there was never any expectation of buying and selling used games of course there was PC gamers expected it whether they delivered it or not And I mean in much the same way that Steam told you upfront you can't sell this used I was still surprised when I found out I couldn't give a game to a friend And gamers who buy things upfront on an Xbox One and know that they can't sell it used or whatever else they'll know that too or they'll be surprised just like me Have you got a call from Nintendo about your live play? No I haven't gotten a call from them they just they claimed one of the videos they monetized it whatever I mean we're talking on the order of like several dollars like it doesn't make a big difference to me one way or the other But I was just amused because we talked about that and then they monetized our video Did you see his face when Xbox said the cost? No idea what you're talking about Okay AMD 5 GHz CPU yeah that's actually one of my topics as well I have a lot of topics still what time is it? None of my clocks are right I have no idea what's going on right now Do you think I should get a 660 Ti or a 770 or wait for 760? Sorry I can't really comment on unreleased products although I can tell you right now that I will know at some point Would a GTX 770 do a 4K display? Yes it would It probably yeah a 4GIG 1 would be better though Hi from Red Deer hello what are the sexy red boxes behind me? Oh well these are unboxings I'll be doing soon This my friends is a Zonar Feebus which I'm extremely excited to check out we're going to be using this for our 900D ultimate build with liquid cooling And this my friends is a Rampage 4 Gene which we were supposed to do a build with a couple months ago but it got delayed in shipping and blah blah blah blah blah So we'll be doing a tiny MATX build with that one that's going to be really cool because it's going to have a 6 core It's going to be in a Silverstone SGO9 so it's going to be super tiny it's going to have a Quadro and a GTX card So it'll have CUDA acceleration for DaVinci Resolve this is going to be Diesel's new workstation so it'll have CUDA acceleration for that And it'll have 8 bit or 10 bit or whatever the high bit colour depth output is for his ProArt 8 bit panel So that he can do all of his colour work on one monitor and he can do all of his other work on another monitor He wants a third monitor I was like really man? What am I made of money? No wonder I have no money left right? I missed the first 20 minutes are you in the LimesMeer group house? Yes Xbox One meme sorry I can't really click links during the stream just because I never know what's there Wow there's a lot of people talking about the new Nvidia driver I haven't even heard about this yet I've been so busy I have a dead pixel what should I do? Nothing Sorry man you got a dead pixel there's not a whole lot you can do Am I the only one who finds white PCBs super sexy? No you're not I actually bought a Sapphire 690G motherboard it was an MATX board In fact it might be in my parents old media PC which might be over there I might go check that out later it might still be in there But I bought it just even though I knew that a Sapphire motherboard was probably going to be a problem They had no experience with motherboards it was like their first one But I bought it just because it had a white PCB it was awesome Why don't you Skype for call in because we are looking for someone to sponsor the call ins Because right now the live streams are a money sink Just to pay myself and Slick to sit here and talk to you guys for an hour and a half I am losing money so there you go So I'm trying to find a way to have the live stream be somewhat sponsored or whatever else Did you hear about the 200 watt TDP? I didn't hear it was a 200 watt TDP but I'm not surprised Should I upgrade to Haswell now? Sure why not? It's not like Intel is going to be releasing anything new AMD has come out right and said they don't have anything new coming for 2013 that isn't in APU So yep go for it Do you recommend redundant radiators and pumps for extreme builds with Titans and extreme CPU? I never really recommend dual loop but it is never a bad idea to put a couple of pumps in serial Because then you get not only increased pumping head pressure but you also get redundancy in case one of the pumps dies And more radiators is always better Even if you are not actually Like even if you don't really need that cooling power Then what you can do is you can turn fans off when your system is idling if you have a more advanced fan controller And then you can just use as much radiators you need and then as your system loads and your water heats up You can have the fans kick in That's what I do on my system so yes more radiators is always better if you want a quiet system Okay why can't monitors go right to the edge for a true bezel-less experience? The reality of it is that it is about more than just having the monitor set up on your desk So if you just manufactured a monitor and moved it straight from the production line to a desk it would probably be fine But they have to design them to withstand packing and shipping and being display models in stores And all of these things that they are going to undergo And that is why you cannot have a bezel-less monitor because someone is going to dunk it up And the manufacturer has to cover their butts on that So let's move into our next topic Which is I mean everyone wants me to talk about all of these topics that I had lined up so I guess I better do it The new Mac Pro so this one was submitted by Jamdude Unfortunately it seems oh wait what? That's the wrong link Dang it Well whatever the new Mac Pro was submitted by someone So the new Mac Pro is a little cylinder it has three PCBs It has dual AMD workstation grade graphics cards and it has like a 12 core CPU or something stupid like that Very cool Very cool form factor Apple is basically banking on Thunderbolt being the only way people expand their PCs I mean the last Mac Pro upgrade we got was what almost a decade ago or something like that in terms of a major Mac Pro upgrade I don't know how ever long it was I pay very little attention and I'm very sorry for that But the last major Mac Pro upgrade we got was a long time ago They are updating it in such a way that I think they are forward looking enough that they are expecting to not update it for a similar period of time again So they are basically going to themselves Okay we are expecting by that time nobody is going to upgrade storage internally in their computers I mean Apple has never really been about upgrading the storage in their Mac Pros I think the most they have ever had is four expansion slots for three and a half inch drives which is abysmal I mean especially when you compare it to that Asrock motherboard that was on display at Computex that supports 22 drives directly attached So okay so there is that They are banking on I think pretty much every peripheral connecting to the computer Whether it is something more basic like a USB thumb drive or whether it is something more advanced like an acceleration card Such as like a Red Rocket which is for working with 4K files that are in the Redraw format that you shoot on red cameras So something like a Red Rocket I think they are expecting to run externally over Thunderbolt which is basically PCI Express So having things like external PCI Express boxes like the Magma 3T which we checked out recently And unfortunately we are just waiting for drivers to catch up and support to catch up so you can have external graphics cards And external accelerator cards and all that kind of stuff they are expecting all of that to be external at some point in time All the storage everything so it has six Thunderbolt 2 so that is 20 gigabit per second ports Actually Anamtech has a great everything you need to know about Thunderbolt go check it out It is awesome it covers this new tech very thoroughly so they have got six of those And I look at it and I go cool great value right now if you want something that is very forward thinking Very powerful and priced reasonably but we have seen this time and time again It actually kind of drives me crazy when viewers or members of the forums say Don't buy Apple computers they are overpriced sometimes they are sometimes they are not At launch I mean if you guys looked at the MacBook Pro that had the I think it was the black one or something like that so a couple of generations ago When that one launched I actually priced it out so the first Intel based MacBooks the second ones I was looking at them because man they are beautiful machines I mean until we had PC manufacturers like Acer building stuff like this I love my S7 although the new gen S7 fixes all my complaints about this one Better battery life better touch pad slightly thinner anyway So before that we didn't have a PC manufacturer who was even close to Apple in terms of the build quality of their machines Now we have Acer we have Razer we have the Asus Zenbook Infinity the landscape has changed So I was pricing those out and the reality of it was if you give Apple even a couple bucks For having a better chassis and that costs money trust me it costs money in the tooling It costs money in the actual manufacturer of each unit they were pretty competitive at launch The problem is that Apple doesn't update their pricing in any way and a lot of the time they are not updating the product So you look at something like the last generation Mac Pro where the graphics card options were a complete joke like it was just stupid We are looking at graphics cards they are like do they really even make these anymore But at launch it was fine and it made sense So buying something like a Mac Pro right now if you want to be forward thinking and you want to have that thunderbolt connectivity and all that stuff May actually make sense it's probably reasonably competitive with the other solutions that are out there if you want the functionality that it enables But and this is that double edged sword because part of what makes that Mac Pro last so long is the fact that Apple is not going to significantly update their hardware And they are not going to significantly update their pricing so if you were to hold out for three years and be shopping for a workstation again It's probably not going to make a whole lot of sense by then we are going to have Ivy Bridge E or Haswell E or whatever next generation platform that's available on the desktop If you build yourself a proper tower you are going to have I mean still internal expansion is going to be king for a while SATA 3 is not going to be too slow for hard drives for a really long time even though SSDs are outpacing it already so if you wait a few years A desktop is going to make a lot more sense than something like a Mac Pro it's all about timing Buying an Apple at launch good idea buying an Apple sort of a year after launch when they are close to another refresh is a terrible terrible value So there you go that's my take on the new Mac Pro Oh yeah I mean another example when Apple first launched the iMac with the 2560 by 1440 IPS display built in It was slim it was sexy the hardware spec was outstanding I tried Someone asked me Linus can I build a PC like this for this price I want to buy a PC but otherwise I'm just going to buy the iMac And I tried to make a PC that was competitive and the part that I kept getting stuck on was that gorgeous 27 inch display PCs took the PC guys took so long to figure out that high resolution displays don't need to be that expensive this was before you could get cheap ones on eBay So I was really frustrated because I was like no I can't build you an equivalent machine because that display is really expensive to buy standalone And that's one of the things that Apple is so good at I mean those AMD GPUs those workstation grade graphic cards if you really want workstation grade cards And you're buying a PC you want it to compete with Mac Pro you're probably going to have a hard time right now but that'll change anyway So I'm done with that now ah yes AMD are actually you know what let's do let's do Xbox's launching in 21 countries what are they high? So the headline here from Jamdude on the forum is Xbox one unplayable in 180 countries so if you check out the article on game debate I really hope that this is just like I mean I'm going to list the countries that you can actually play an Xbox one game in Like I'm going to list the ones you can because it's a much shorter list than the ones you can't Australia, Austria, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Mexico, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Russia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom and United States Seriously so okay no India no China so right there bam it's a third of the world gone done there's your market cap No Japan I mean the odds of any of them actually buying an Xbox one anyway I suppose are pretty slim because you know Sony and rah rah rah and all that But really no Greece okay maybe no one there can afford one anyway but I'm starting to see a pattern here no no but seriously I mean not having not having the products available in these territories is just unbelievable to me I mean no Poland no Argentina no Peru no I mean the only country in all of South America where you're going to be able to use an Xbox one is Brazil And yeah Brazil is a really important market right now for a lot of business but no Portugal so heaven forbid that you're someone who lives in Spain And you get a job offer in Portugal and you move there and it's going to be region locked the software titles won't work You won't be I mean I'm running out of gas on this one because I don't even know what there is to say So we're going to go to the Twitter boards what do you guys think of Xbox one launching in whatever it is 21 countries which is just the most ludicrous thing Apparently I'm slightly out of focus I'm not too worried about that right now because I'm tired Hosted the cost of an Xbox one the look on his face and the lack of response in the crowd okay sure Speced out 27 inch IMAX gives way better performance per dollar than a Mac Pro IMO that's cool but I mean remember it's always in flux When things get updated or don't get updated Personal rig living at home yeah the personal will be staying at home I'm super sad about the fact that I'm going to have to move my 10 gigabit network infrastructure to the office here I'm so sad about that because I've been enjoying that and then I'm also going to have to move my like wicked NAS machine So I'm going to have to go back to being a mere mortal with a NAS instead of having my Eureka 24 port raid card with like my like beast raid six array and all that Boo! Boo! Anyway have you ever done any system admin work before like Active Directory system? No I haven't Invite the guy from Fractally he'll join us again at some point Could you do a custom water cooling loop for my PC please? Nope sorry Go check out the forum there's lots of people who know as much as I do about water cooling if not more What's your opinion on iOS 7? You know what I think Marcus Brownlee actually covered this really well So if you guys haven't checked out any of his videos before youtube.com slash mark it's kind of a weird spelling of Marcus But there we go youtube.com slash Marcus Brownlee go check him out he does great videos and he has one here called where iOS 7 features come from And it's basically it's kind of like it's kind of like tech syndicates has Apple ever really invented anything video where it really looks at where the ideas for these in all likelihood came from Xbox one will only have a 500 gig hard drive which can't be replaced yeah that to me is actually one of the most insane things about Xbox one I was even I was actually giving I mean you guys probably know this if you follow at all what we've been doing for the last week or so But I was at Computex with WD and we were hanging out with those guys like every other day and at one point I was just like guys what's the deal? How did you let Microsoft get away with some goofy proprietary hard drive that can't be replaced and is 500 gigs? I mean Western Digital is showing was showing off at Computex 7 millimeter 1 terabyte drives they're not even expensive 500 gigs is last gen already That's last gen that's like unbelievable that this is acceptable in this day and age And when you consider that Xbox one has a blu ray player we're going to be looking at games that you're going to be able to fill your Xbox with what like Like about 20 gigs per disk so five it looks at 25 games your Xbox one will be full I know people who have like an order of magnitude larger game libraries on that for a given console And the fact that you're not going to be able to run off the disk that's one of the most insane things about Xbox one to me in fact that particular spec doesn't seem to be getting as much attention as I think it should be Techie with an SSD in the back pocket but uh something I think we're too zoomed in right now because for some reason I'm not able to see people's whole tweets But a mortal network at home well it's still still be gigabit I mean what is that test bench I've seen you using it's the high speed PC tech station CD Projekt red can even play their own game in their own home country on the Xbox one yes that is a big problem it's okay no one cares about Xbox one we'll wait patiently for PS4 yeah that's going to be a big problem too I suspect PS4 is going to be just as bad at some point of course our K95 video soon I don't know if you uh I don't know if you spotted this or not but yes K95 video will be coming soon This is actually um that shelf behind me is serving as sort of a to be unboxed pile so there's a lot of stuff on there that's going to be unboxed over the next little bit Wait for the 4930K or pick up a 3930K now honestly 4930K is not going to be rocket science in terms of the performance benefit you're going to get It's going to be Ivy Bridge or pardon me Sandy Bridge versus Ivy Bridge so we're going to be looking at about 10% improvement in IPC and it's going to overclock slightly less just like on the mainstream platform so Personally I don't know if I'd wait it's going to be on the same platform at 79 Mac Pro equals trash can for your spare hardware not really not familiar with that unfortunately since Poland yep yeah Witcher 3 deads cannot play their own game on a retail Is the online requirement that perfect size box one from same reason game from Windows Live is only available in the same 27 countries yep I'm in Portugal and can't buy one not that I would buy one anyway alright can you please talk about shadow play on the GTX 700 series is it a built in capture card or is it just software it's both All Kepler GPUs have built in H264 encoding which means that as long as the card is capable of displaying the output okay which it is and it has the H264 built in encoder it can very quickly and easily with very little overhead take that video stream and it can make it into a small lightweight file that is going to still be very high quality so it's very very cool GTX 260 I am not convinced there's any good reason to have a dedicated PhysX card I've never really seen a benefit alright alright alright so Drew wants me to talk about AMD's upcoming 5 GHz CPU so let's go check that out so AMD has been pretty serious business about picking up where their competitors are leaving off in terms of things like gaming bundles and in terms of things like catering to the enthusiast So AMD's new FX9590 was on display at E3 with a Radeon HD7990 this was submitted by Sur Numbers and okay the system is powered by 16 gigs of RAM new AMD hardware so I've had a lot of people tweeting at me about this CPU so the CPU will be Piledriver based we already know this because AMD already said several times we don't have a new CPU architecture coming this year It will be somewhat refined but because it's Piledriver based because we're not looking at a new process node because we're not looking at a new architecture it will be a power hog and it will output a ton of heat we also know that it's not going to overclock that much people have been asking me how do you think this chip will perform It will perform...wait for it...this is a suspense moment...it will perform just like an 8350 at 5 GHz...I'm gonna let that sink in...I don't know I get a kick out of this like when people ask me how do you think before the GTX 770 launched how do you think 770 is going to perform based on what we already know about it which is that it's very similar to GTX 680 but it has faster memory to which I would reply it will perform just like a 680 but it will have faster memory so probably in high resolution it's going to do better and yay So we're looking at a very similar situation is this very cool yes I hope that AMD does what they need to do to capture the hearts of the enthusiasts to sell more of these chips I think it's good for their business I think being able to drive up their ASP's is very positive I hope they bring some bundles into it you look at what they've been doing on APUs with things like SimCity bundles and as unpopular as SimCity might be it's still a game people are still playing with it and it comes for free with your CPU you can't really complain too much about it if they do the same things they're doing on the graphic side with CPU we might be looking at a rejuvenated AMD that is able to sell some CPUs and if they're able to sell some CPUs they're going to have some money to dump back into R&D so that they can develop better CPUs and there's no one who is more happy than any hardware enthusiast to see a strong AMD because a strong AMD means Intel cannot be complacent and cannot ignore the enthusiast because the enthusiasts even though they're a very small market segment in terms of sales are extremely loud and they drive sales in the other market segments so as long as AMD is competitive it is very very very good news for the enthusiast I mean the rumors I don't know if it's true or not I've seen some tweets tonight about a 200 watt TDP for the chip that's awesome I guess that's crazy I mean I personally don't really care about the TDP of my CPU as far as I'm concerned bring it on give me a good reason to have a 1000 watt power supply I have one anyway bring it on give me a good reason to have water cooling I have it anyway so I personally don't care but there will be situations where it will be a problem I mean I would I probably wouldn't deploy a 9590 or whatever they end up calling it in my computer room and the reason for that is I'm right above my garage and it gets extremely hot in the summer as it is with the GTX 590 in there the 5870 that's in my wife's machine as well as the fact that I'm running a 6 core already and remember this will be a significantly higher heat output than my 6 core is already that room already gets really hot and when you turn on the computers it gets really hot and having hotter computers is definitely a bad thing so yeah I think it's great I think it's cool I think it's fine that AMD is first to the 5 GHz barrier I think Intel could have done it if they cared I think AMD could have done it sooner if they cared as well but we've been on a rush to sort of more cores as opposed to higher frequency for a while so I think it's more just like a feather in the cap as opposed to something that's actually meaningful but I think that if AMD is going to continue to cater to enthusiasts and gamers I think that's a really really positive thing it's good for their business it's good for gamers it's good for the industry alright I'm going to lose my voice eventually here so we're probably going to have to sort of call this quits pretty soon here guys can I use an H100i fanless with and the question continues but I'm already going to tell you no oh fanless for idle no probably not you're probably going to need to have at least them spinning at sort of 300 400 rpm how come you guys left the booth babes out of the Computex coverage it was by request the NSA got to Linus RIP Linus guys what if all I want to do is game and I don't care about TV and stuff what's better PS4 or Xbox One with any console generation it's always going to come down to exclusive titles anyway so whichever one has the titles you want to play so there you go not selling the Xbox One in China so it is made in the Asia region they won't be selling it there well yeah I mean they'll probably add more countries at some point and remember a lot of the problems with selling it are not going to be necessarily Microsoft's fault at all sometimes there are regulations that prevent them from easily being able to import them and integrate their services so we'll see how it goes you should use Google Voice instead yes I probably should I have a paid Skype account right now I'm not that happy with it and Diesel has a Google Voice account and he's very happy with it so have you seen the new MacBook Pro it is a trash can it's a very powerful very cool piece of hardware is what it actually is but sure thoughts on E3 honestly I've paid so little attention to the E3 coverage other than the ongoing train wreck that is Microsoft's PR for the Xbox One so unfortunately I can't really comment I'm sure Slick's been paying more attention to it than I have so we'll have a bit more of a discussion on the gaming side of things probably next week I would think this is weird this thing shifted this thing I can see through it now to the background okay three new interactions please talk about the Haswell controversy where Intel cherry picked review samples and retail chips run significantly hotter you know what I sort of caught wind of it I'm not aware that that's anything that actually happened and honestly from my experience with guys like hardware manufacturers who aren't Intel I really doubt it I think the the problem here is that the people who are getting okay so a couple things number one is when I got briefed on Haswell by the motherboard guys not by Intel they basically said look there's a huge range there's going to be ones that are awesome there's going to be ones that are totally bunk when it comes to overclocking and there's going to be a lot in between I had the opportunity to have my hands on a cherry I had a cherry picked CPU directly from JJ it was his second best one out of I think he'd been to about 50 or 60 of them and that was in case my sample from Intel was a horrendous overclocker and I couldn't actually do my overclocking guide and show any kind of reasonable result whatsoever because the JJ has had his hands personally on JPEG and had his hands personally on chips that were not very good overclockers at all so that to me indicates a couple of things number one is there's a range out there and the guys who get a bunk chip are very likely to be the ones complaining that their Haswell chip runs hot or doesn't overclock very well okay so but we already knew this at least I knew this number two is that indicates to me that even Asus so in the case of JJ having a ton of chips to bin from got everything from great ones to not very good ones okay so not all the ES's were cherry picked my ES is very mediocre very run of the mill it's an Intel confidential chip so it's probably as review sample as anyone else's and it's middle of the road maybe a little bit on the better side I thought it was better than it actually was when I was filming the video but what happened was JJ explained to me there are a few more things that I could do to push it that would indicate if it was a really good one or not and it's kind of I think it's about top 35 percent or so but it's not nothing super super special or anything like that so I think what's happening is people are getting Haswell chips they're not happy with them and they're complaining whereas the people that are getting them and they are happy with them are not complaining and honestly again this is one of those things where I kind of go well I'm used to this I've seen this before not necessarily I don't think either Intel or AMD has particularly cherry picked review sample CPU's in a long time I don't think they really focus on the enthusiast overclocking scene as much as they used to to the extent where they actually used to go through and like bin CPU's for famous overclockers like fuggers and there's a huge controversy over that these days I know for a fact Andre Yang who won 8 of the events at the OC main event at Computex binned his own CPU's Intel didn't bin them for them for him and send them to him so I don't think they really do it anymore with all that said I don't know this for a fact this is all my speculation based on what I know so I don't know if that happened anyway so we used to have to do this anyway there was a time when you know even something like a 2500 plus which was a legendary chip some of them were great overclockers most of them were pretty good overclockers and some of them were very good mine wasn't very good I'm just trying to think if my op-tron 165 wasn't that great it was a little bit better than my 4400 plus but not much and they were supposed to be amazing overclockers my E6600 was awesome I had that thing at 4 GHz 24-7 mind you I had chilled liquid on it what else what have I ever had like a like a bunk chip I mean my 7870 doesn't overclock worth a damn even though it's an MSI whatever aftermarket cooler and custom PCB I mean sometimes a chip just doesn't overclock and that's bad luck and with Haswell I already knew and I know some of the manufacturers already knew there was going to be a much wider larger percentage of chips that just weren't going to overclock so it used to be on forums like extreme systems or extreme overclocking back in the day that there was a very regular turning through of chips like people would actually be able to sell a golden chip or a decent overclocker for more than retail price and oh oh my battery died ok you ok I guess we're back sort of this is my battery that's dead I don't have the charger for the FS700 here so I yeah there's a lot of stuff that's not moved to the new place it's actually going to be a really busy weekend this weekend so yeah it's going to be going to be kind of crazy you know what I should probably do is I should probably do the build of the week I have had oh oh snap I had one sent to me that the the mod team wanted me to include so there we go I'm going to go ahead and grab this one oh apparently audio is out I wonder why audio is out it's very strange blah doop doop doop I don't know if there's anything I can do about that right now I didn't change anything what do you say check check check check check check check check it's definitely getting picked up by the camera three to four seconds I don't know what three to four seconds means man got messages that I don't understand so hopefully the hopefully the audio is back now I have no idea oh audio is out audio is desynced ah I see I think there's something we can actually do about that if I go in here and I refresh this it'll either crash the string did it fix it hopefully we're good alright so let's do our system of the week so apparently I have a thing in here yeah I'm getting getting Skype messages that are like my bad and I'm like yeah way to go way to be like helping me and not doing it adequately enough alright so we have two different system builds of the week and we are going to look at for a limited time only by this alright add screen region and we're just going to add the whole screen so you guys will see all my junk so first up is André Vateur with André's personal Z77 rig so this is the more attainable rig and yes that is a nice rig another oh wait no that isn't that's what wow I'm losing it here what is that a 650D I don't even know that's a 650D right I haven't seen a 650D in so long I don't think that's a 650D someone help me apparently I just shouldn't even do system build of the week because there's a reason I leave this to slick yeah apparently it is a 650D somebody's got a Noctua NH-D14 although oh my goodness okay you know what we're not doing system of the week yet because holy freaking crap oh and also I had this like super small you guys were looking at this the whole time see this is this is this is this is this is terrible okay so Noctua's booth at Computex I actually had a lot of people asking me what was your like favorite thing you saw at Computex their active noise cancellation heatsink is unreal it works they had the demo they had there had the heatsink and it had a shroud over it it had a fan in the middle so the shroud serves a number of purposes allowing the air to be channeled more directly so they figured with one fan they were able to get similar performance to the successor to the NH-D14 that they also had on display there okay so it channels the airflow better and the shroud creates a controlled environment for the active noise cancellation that basically vibrates the blades to cancel out the noise of the spinning of the blade they had a microphone next to the heatsink that you could put on like noise canceling headphones so you could actually hear it in the hall and they could go active noise canceling on active noise canceling off and you can hear the difference so it's not one of those things where it's like they've created a completely silent fan that makes no noise it doesn't work that way but what they've done is they've taken the fan noise from like hmmm pardon my humming to like hmmm like it's a much lower hum and it basically sounds like much lower rpm fan operation except that it's not it's freaking awesome so I am super excited about that anyway we can go back to our we can go back to our build of the week which I have completely lost now and have no idea where it is anymore I downloaded it there it is alright so we're gonna go back to scene four and we're gonna put this one on but there we go alright so we've got a 650d knock to a fans which I of course am thrilled to see nhd 14 msi twin frozer 3 graphics card ax850 extremely clean cable management this is the kind of build that pretty much anyone can do you can see how the SATA cables are routed very nicely I love when things line up like this so you can take the right angle SATA cables right out of here this is one of the benefits someone asked me earlier on the stream about 24 pin power connector having a right angle 24 pin power connectors it would be great to have that somewhere like here so you wouldn't have to have this loop coming up here and it could be even cleaner in fact I'd be this would be kind of cool to see a graphics card manufacturer put the power connectors on the bottom of the graphics card so you wouldn't even have to run these cables over here you could have a machine that almost looks entirely cable free so here's the SATA cables for this and then everything in here is tucked in here love modular power supplies for this very clean cable routing on the back I personally don't have the discipline to do this I always end up with a rat's nest on the back but when people do it it looks fantastic this one is awesome actually I had picked one that the that the forum moderation team did not give me and this was the one that I picked to showcase so this is g5 by shawy and check that out so his build log is awesome it has a ton of different pictures check out the build log section of the forum go look for these two builds so he took a g5 case so remember guys this is the old g5 with one optical drive completely gutted it and did a sweet liquid cool build in fact these two pictures that were picked out by the mod team were actually the same two pictures I picked out for my own Gellad wings looks outstanding beautiful compression fittings SLI graphics cards man this thing looks nice and check out the builds of the week thread in the forum for links to these so that you can go and see all the details that go into creating machines of this caliber they're absolutely outstanding and we are just so thrilled to have like that kind of awesome stuff go on in our forum next to actually I actually have another topic that I did want to talk about EA wants to stop being hated good luck with that so that was submitted on the forum by that that that that that oh whoa what why is cloud player doing something here oh okay uh huh well can't find it anymore sorry apparently threads gone if people oh this is something if people change the titles of the threads on the forum the links all die so I don't recommend doing that but EA wants to stop being hated let's see if they decide to buck trends like not requiring games to phone home as often as they can I mean Microsoft's made it pretty clear stuff like always on is at the discretion of the game dev so if EA wants to not be hated they're going to have to speak with actions not words and I just kind of doubt it right now PCI express SSDs on the new MacBook Air so an untag had an article about this I'm going to link first to the forum submission that links to the an untag article so this was from car a canning or whatever however I say that so Apple didn't say during the show but it seems the MacBook Air got more than just a CPU upgrade the transfer speeds are far higher than any state of three disk and averages around 790 megabytes per second reads and 740 megabytes per second writes the flip side however seems to be that it's proprietary solution so no unfortunately this is not an M2A solution or NTG F or whatever that standard is that's PCI Express based SSD this is a proprietary solution so you probably will get aftermarket upgrades at some point but it'll take a while at best and I mean that's just like Apple's way of doing things and I'm going to have a bit of an unpopular opinion here but ok even when we went from hard drives to SSDs we had a technology change SSDs are dramatically faster than hard drives for random operations random operations so even compared to the SATA2 interface an SSD that's being read from or written to very heavily very randomly is not saturating that bus because we're still limited by the NAND flash and that's going to continue to be an issue as process nodes shrink the flash inherently gets less high performance as we move to technologies like TLC particularly write speed is going to be lower performance so ok already for the part of your computer where we're really benefiting from an SSD which is not sequential reads and writes because you don't copy files back and forth all day folks we already didn't even care that much about SATA3 so you go back and look at SATA3 SSDs a lot of the first reviews drives like vertex 3 did they perform better you know what I gotta take this I'm gonna put the stream on hold for a minute sorry guys hello and we're back sorry the wife called had to take that very important very important call because if I don't take that call I'm stuck here B-roll left without me so there ok unpopular opinion I don't think it matters that much until we see a dramatic improvement in the complexity of the controllers and until we see some kind of change in the storage medium that we're using on these drives because NAND is not getting high performance particularly over time I mean we can spread it out over more channels but then we're looking at a controller complexity increase which we haven't really seen much of in the last little while anyway at or we can switch to something other than NAND I have no idea what the future holds in terms of storage but you can much like hard drives being the be all and end all forever not as NAND flash is not the be all and end all forever necessarily either so back when SATA3 SSDs first launched a lot of the reviews took the time to test all the SATA2 SSDs on SATA2 controllers all the SATA3 SSDs on SATA2 controllers and all the SATA3 SSDs on SATA3 controllers and while we saw particularly in things like peak reads and writes dramatic improvements going from SATA2 to SATA3 for these enabled drives when it came to more real world simulated testing things like PCMark or things like an Untext storage bench the difference wasn't that dramatic I mean yeah it's great to get another 10% or another 20% but when we're talking about a world where most people are still using hard drives as opposed to SSDs anyway the upgrade from a hard drive to an SSD versus the upgrade from an SSD to a SATA3 SSD or a PCI Express based SSD this upgrade is not going to be that significant for the future it's not going to be that significant compared to this one and much like going from a single core to a dual core and then going from a dual core to a quad core really didn't impress people the same way that it did sort of the first time around so 800MB per second sequentials are cool but sequentials haven't meant anything in a very long time and another step towards okay this is probably to me what this looks like is another step towards putting storage directly on motherboards on the desktop I suspect within another five years we may be able to do that within another five years we may see soldered CPUs we may see soldered storage you might buy like you might just buy a computer like there might be like a core i7 computer an i5 computer and an i3 computer and that might be what we end with maybe it's not five years maybe it's ten years but I don't know how I feel about that let me see if there's anything left here and I think that is pretty much it for this week guys thank you so much for tuning in to the live stream I'm sorry there were some complications with the lateness and with the sort of blacking out and the audio desync and all that stuff but you guys are awesome and I appreciate you tuning in and I hope it wasn't boring with just me versus having slick here to keep all of us company and good night everyone