 Yeah, yeah, supposedly. Okay, all right. So are we live? So the real question we should be asking ourselves right now, aside from why is Linus streaming from the Nerd Fusion studio here in Seattle, is why is it that with a supposed professional streamer in a supposed professional streaming studio, I still can't start the show on time? Well, we were filming. Do you want me to answer that? Go ahead, man. I mean, I can take the blame. Hit me with your best shot. Hit me with your best shot. I mean, it could be because we were filming until 10 minutes after. We were supposed to be live. Okay. But non-live streaming. Yes, that could have had something to do with it. So yeah, actually, I guess I'll answer the other burning question on everyone's minds. Why the hell am I here? And the answer is we are down here filming a collab with Matt Sevadis from Nerd Fusion. We are actually installing that server that we live streamed the build of like a month ago? About a month ago. Yeah, it was about a month ago. So we were going to ship it down here, but it kept, you know, I kept not getting around to fixing the problems that he caused when he installed an extra motherboard standoff, which... I'm pretty sure I didn't do that. What? I think it was already in there. I just sort of... Okay, so for those of you who watched the live stream, you probably saw me ask not one, not two, but at least three times. Are you sure? Are you sure you don't have an extra motherboard standoff? And the thing wouldn't post when he left the office. So I was stuck diagnosing it by myself after hours at my office. Listen. After hours at my office. I was diagnosing it by myself. It added drama. It added no drama. We weren't filming. No one got to experience... There's drama right now. Yeah. No one got to experience the drama in real time. And isn't that everything? I want this to be the Linus troll now where everybody who visits your studio just installs an extra standoff. Oh, so anyway, we were lucky. Okay. So some of the solder points at the back of one of the RAM slots are actually like bent over from the motherboard. Did I send you the picture? You did and it's fine. You did and it's fine. It worked so it's fine. Okay, so it works now. So we're down here. We installed it. We're gonna have a video coming very soon where we tell you guys exactly what the crap a bunch of Twitch streamers need a like $15,000 server in their closet for. That's about what that thing costs, you know. I mean those CPUs alone are like four grand plus or something like that. Yeah, so, okay. So we're gonna get that going. We've also got a bunch of great topics for you guys today including but not limited to the Galaxy Note 7 which I posted a very glowing review of. I still use it. Last night. Well yours didn't explode. How great would it be if it happened on camera though? Well using it's okay. Just don't try to charge it. Oh, that's what it is. Right? Right. Okay. No problem. So we'll talk a little bit about why the shipments have been suspended and a recall notice has been issued for the Note 7. We're also going to have probably I imagine this will be one of our longer discussions a chat about YouTube being accused of censoring vloggers. The EU has demanded that Apple pay 13 billion euros plus interest in taxes owed to Ireland and a lot of you have been asking me for this. Up until now I have maintained my silence. We will be talking about the tech syndicate controversy. Something that has been very much a developing story that I haven't looked at today. So my information may actually be out of date. But hey, let's face it. You don't watch the WAN show for the absolute latest in news because a lot of it is from like the previous Saturday. Let's roll the intro. That's a shining endorsement. I don't even know why anyone watches this show. You could be watching literally anything else right now, but you tuned in. Tuned in here. And we appreciate that. We do. You show the time in the intro. Why would a motherboard stand up? Kill a motherboard just because it was all bent? Because it was in the wrong spot. Because there was no hole there. There was no hole there. Oh, oh wow. Well, that's a mistake. I mean, it wasn't that big of a deal. Well, it didn't end up being that big of a deal. As someone who speaks from experience, okay, I'm not going to claim I've never done it. You can kill motherboards that way. Have you done this? We were lucky. We could have also killed a DIMM because that standoff would have been shorting out those solder points under the memory slot. And we had that DIMM installed. So luckily that DIMM works. The server works. But, um, well, there you go. All right. So I've got pretty much everyone in the Twitch chat accusing us of this being an archive stream. It is in fact an archive stream. So you guys, you guys are honest. I mean, it's not even like me addressing the people saying the stream is archived is proof of any sort that this is not an archive stream. Because that happens all the time. Yeah, you're just really smart. I could totally fake that at any given moment. And there would be a message in Twitch chat saying that it's archived. So, well, you guys are on to us. I think this is the first thing that's actually been pre-recorded in this room ever. Yeah. So we're setting all kinds of Twitch terms of service violating milestones today. Maybe we should start whipping out the nipples. Oh! So if you whip out a nipple on my Twitch channel, who's in trouble? You are. I am. Yeah. So I'm responsible for your actions. You are. That's unfortunate. It's very unfortunate for you. The other big thing people are demanding to know is where the crap is Luke. He's actually on the PAX show floor covering all kinds of cool stuff, including but not limited to, I heard a rumor that somewhere on the show floor there is a working Kaby Lake sample. So for those of you who don't know, which is probably just you actually, sorry Taryn. Yeah. So for those of you who don't know, that is Intel's upcoming CPU architecture, the successor to Skylake. Only a bit like behind the scenes people can see it? Well, it depends how obnoxious you are when you walk into the booth. So if you're the kind of person who takes a behind closed doors demo, kicks the door down, grabs the product and points a camera at it, then you might have footage of it before anyone else does. Is that what you did? That is the kind of publication we are. Yes, my friend. So consider it not a rumor. There will be a video. So Kaby Lake is coming. So anyway, Luke's on the floor. There's all kinds of great stuff. Logitech has their new $69 across the board set of gaming for a Frozen they're showing off. I think we should do a $69 PC build. They're really doing $69? Yeah, the mouse is $69, the keyboard is $69. You can spill, they spill the whole beer on it during the party. Really? Yeah. Oh, I wasn't there. Yeah, it's like a beer proof keyboard for $69. Really? Yeah. That's really cool. You know what's really funny is the only time I've ever really seen that in the past is on Lenovo ThinkPads. I didn't think that. IBM used to have spill proof keyboards. They actually had drainage built into the keyboard so that if you spilled an entire cup of coffee on it, it would actually drain out the bottom of the laptop and bypass all these sensitive internals. Oh, wow. Probably still sticky though. Yeah, probably still sticky. I mean coffee is not ideal, but especially if it was water you'd be okay. But I mean by sort of my logic for something like that is that, well hey, if you can spill coffee down it, you can probably spill isopropyl down it and then you can relieve the stickiness that way, right? Now you're thinking with portals. This is a Kleenex. Wait, sorry, what are we talking about? What? Okay, so why don't we jump into our first topic here. I think this one is going to be a Linus and Matt topic. Matt or Sevadis, do you care? More people call you Matt nowadays actually than Sevadis, which is surprising. You know what's funny is we used to do something similar at LMG. So I've always gone by Linus because not because I thought it was a good idea, but because I didn't have the foresight to use a fake name. I actually have a lot of people accuse me of Linus being a fake name and I kind of go that would have been smart. It's a really good fake name. Yeah, maybe it is. Maybe it really is fake. I've seen the ultimate troll right here. I've seen really angry posts under our videos about how I'm trading on the fame of Linus Torvalds by... Who is that? Really? Really? Linus? Well, he's Swedish, so that's how they pronounce it. All right. Listen, I only know Americans. If it ain't from America, then it can just get out. Get out of here. That would be both of us. Yeah. So, all right. Peace. Bye. I can do this. You're from America, so... Yeah, that's true. I'm actually American. Yeah. So, yeah, I've had people angrily say I'm just trading on the fame of Linus Torvalds in order to get my name out there. I'm more like, no, no, actually I wasn't smart enough to do anything like that. But when we added people... So, my original camera guy at NCIX, who also did all the editing, who still works there and whose name is still a secret, he is just the cameraman, the Mac guy to my PC-ness. I don't even know. Troll me from behind the camera. He just didn't want his name or his personality out there, so we called him the cameraman. And we had all this great banter between me and the cameraman, who was like this, like, Stig, you know, like no one knew who he was. Every once in a while, you might see kind of like a reflection in a camera. So, we had like the whole Wilson, Stig thing going on, and that was where the nickname thing came from. Does nobody know who it is, really? No one knows who it is. I mean, I do. No, this is a challenge. I don't know. You will have no way of guessing. You would have no way of guessing. It's not someone who currently works for you. No, no, they still work at NCIX. Okay. Yeah, and they're behind the scenes. You would have no way of knowing. So anyway, when Luke joined, I kind of went, okay, well, I want to keep up this, like, the off-camera people had these nicknames and personas thing because it had worked really well. Like, the banter was great. So, we were like, okay, your nickname is Slick because your PC is oil-cooled. Oh, yeah, he was Slick PC, wasn't he? That's right. And then Ed was Diesel because I could never remember his name at the beginning. And like... He looks nothing like Vin Diesel. And he looks nothing like Vin Diesel. And then Brandon was B-roll for fairly obvious reasons. Yeah. That's a good one. And so we had all of... And then I never got one. And you never got one because it was around that time, I think, that those guys were just like, this is stupid. We should just use our real names. And I think the audience likes it better, too. So we just got away from it and now everyone just uses their real names. So that was... I don't remember where I was going with this story. Right. So you're more Matt now. So maybe that's the new thing. Maybe people don't like nicknames anymore. I don't know if that's true. I think it's because I do more businessy stuff nowadays. I kind of go by Matt. So you're a boring old man now, basically? Oh. Sorry to hear that. Boring. Yeah. Yeah. Not very exciting here. All right. Well, let's talk about your exciting phone. So the original article here posted by Patrick3027 on the forum here is... Can I ask you a question? Boom, there we go. You can ask me a question. I won't answer it. Do people fight to try to be first? Because you always say, like somebody, oh, this person posted first on the forum, right? Is there like, right when news like this hits, like 10 articles that they're praying that you're going to shout them out on the way? I don't think it's that intense. I think it's six and one half, it doesn't need the other. So I think some people do like the opportunity to have the shout out on the land show, but we're not consistent enough about remembering to call it out. For I think people to be really that into that. But people do, like especially the major contributors within the tech news and reviews from around the web forum section. I think people do like to be like a major contributor and they do like people commenting on their posts and that discussion happening. So yeah, when something major breaks, I get like 95 percent of my tech news from my own forum. All I have to do is go online to Tech Kids Forum and if people are talking about it, it's important. And if it's not on there, it's probably not important. That's that's actually been my rule of thumb for like the last two years. I like it. Yeah, it's great. I'll source it to the audience. So there you have it. Galaxy Note 7 shipments suspended over reports of exploding units. Now, I'm glad I didn't bring mine. I actually I okay. So this is this is funny. Now, normally when I do a review, if I have a review unit die, I actually don't bring it up. I will let it slide once, especially if the review unit dies in a way that is different from sort of any other reports that I'm seeing. Or if it is or if it's something that really looks like a fluke. So mine died, but it didn't explode. If the battery had exploded, you're I would have died. My first Note 7 died. Wow. So what happened was my NAND flash went. And that like I am so I normally like my general policy is I don't mention a failure unless it's a failure that I can that I can identify as something that should have been preventable with better design and something like NAND flash. NAND flash can die. That can happen. That's not a knock against an Intel SSD any more than it is a knock against a Samsung phone. Stuff can happen even if your RMA rate is point one percent. That still means that one out of every thousand units dies. And and and to be to like to be completely transparent with you guys like from being on the other side of the IT industry, the sales side of it. RMA rates from the you know, one to three percent range are considered very good with anything above five percent considered to be getting pretty bad. So that should give you some idea of what your odds are. I mean, that's one of the reasons that companies charge to put together a computer for you because by the time you put eight components into a system, if you've got about a three to five percent failure rate on any given one of them, the odds of having a 10 one is actually not that bad. Just something to keep something to consider. That's a reason that a lot of people I know who know how to build a computer actually do pay for someone else to assemble it for them where there's a warehouse of replacement parts in the back if something goes wrong. So anyway, so mine actually did die, which I don't remember what the point of me bringing up. I showered with mine, but I've been no problems. You you. Okay, right. So that's the reason I don't have mine with me. So I'm actually because I'm planning to use it as a daily driver. So I'm rocking the regular s seven. Okay. And then that's got my Canadian Sim and I've got my US Sim in my iPhone success. Yeah, I didn't know who was calling me earlier. Yeah. Yeah, sorry about that. Yes. Yes. That was me. It was not a phone number. Leave. You know, not that I speak from experience about that. I should have a new phone number now that is not anywhere. So go like this. All right. So so anyway, so it would be great if this thing I can't you said it has to be charging for it to and by the way this word explode. Have you seen the pictures of it? Like when I think of the word explode, I think of let's go. Yes. Yeah, it's more like expanded. And like smoke coming out. Well, not in the picture. I saw it was just like fatter. It was like a little bit of lava. We yeah, like that's a battery thing, right? Yeah. Yeah. Like lithium sticks batteries will do that. Let me see. I guess it's an explosion. I want like a boom. I want to see if I can find a picture so we can show you guys so you can we can show you guys here. Love love love love love love. Love. Yeah, it is this right now. Yeah, anyway, so not really the point but they have suspended shipments of the phone to various South Korean telecoms and due to reports of exploding Galaxy Note 7's which is a real shame because I think it puts customers who are very happy with their purchase of the phone. I'm incredibly happy in a pretty awkward position because what like what can you do as a result now? So what I'm doing is I think in most of the American carriers you have until the end of the month to go give it to them in which they will swap it out for something of similar quality, right? There's a way that they put it. Yeah. And then whenever they get shipments back in whenever Samsung actually start sending things then I'll be able to go pick up, you know, pick it up again. I don't know if I'm going to do it but I mean my goal is to wait it out and hope that within the next 30 days shipments come in so I can just go and swap rather than having to go to some lesser peon of a phone. This is such a crappy position for Samsung to be in right now because there's a couple things that were really going great for them on the Note 7. Apparently the blue color which is actually what you ended up with the blue color has just been phenomenally popular. So Samsung Canada was saying that by far it was the most pre-ordered color even though this is the first time they've done a pure black phone in quite some time and I think they were expecting that to be a pretty big draw. No, no. That like metallic baby blue has just been super hot for them. The Note 7 is a great phone and they're absolutely killing the momentum on it. And number three is Apple is waiting on the doorstep with the iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus. Yeah, it's coming in like a couple weeks while Samsung is going to be putting out fires literally processing. Oh my God. Do you think so? So what it is is it's not Samsung's fault, right? So what there's well what I read at least is that it's the not the battery cell manufacturer, which is a subsidiary of Samsung. Yeah, but it is the people that take those cells and then turn it into the packs, which is a third party. That's who who messed up. It's a third party. So could there be so here's here's the thing. Oh, come on. We'll pan them off. We cause issues. Do you guys have a tinfoil hat problem? We actually do. But I don't know where it is. Can we get some tinfoil? That's very tinfoil. But you never know. You never know. I okay. I doubt it. Okay. So so then here's the question for you then as an owner knowing that because it doesn't even look like all of the all of the batteries were manufactured by the particular factory that they're claiming. That's true. So Samsung is estimating that 24 units on a scale of 1 million were affected by the battery problems. Are you going to chance it? Are you just going to keep it? I will keep it. I will absolutely keep it if I can't just swap out if there becomes a time this month where I can swap out. Yeah, I'll do that. But if there's nothing in stock where I can't swap out, I'm keeping it. Screw it. All right. So I mean one thing. Okay. I don't fast charge often. Okay. Occasionally do like when I'm at a con or something. I need just let's go. Yeah. Okay. Normally I just dribbling it up. Okay. So that actually ties in pretty well. So a lot of people basically have to comments on my note 7 review that went up last night are yo life is great timing for this review endorsing this phone because yo the batteries are all exploding. Ha way to go. That was really funny. You got to admit that was hilarious. Well, I appreciate a good ironic twist as much as anyone else and it was definitely it was there was definitely some irony there. But to be clear my video was actually uploaded to vessel a week prior. So I had no way of knowing about this and number two, I do still think it's a very solid phone when you can get one that is not affected by the recall and number three in my video though unrelated to this particular phone and its battery issues. I do say I don't recommend fast charging. I don't recommend it. It's a bad idea. And there's a couple of very basic reasons for that that apply to all phones. It's great in a pinch. If you're at a con and you have 15 minutes to get like 30 percent battery. That is a very cool piece of technology. But charging your battery at these higher voltages does cause it to heat up more heat is bad for a year device. But to a much greater extent your battery. And so if there is any way that you can avoid fast charging on your phone even trickle charging it at 500 milliamps overnight is better because it causes it to not run as hot and it is better for the cells. So for me personally, I have never fast charged my note 7 either of them actually. And it's something that I wouldn't really plan to do. I mean, I don't have trouble going through a whole day with this phone. So if you charge it at night and you aren't doing anything crazy like playing Pokemon go for six hours at a time, I don't really see it as an issue. With that said, I'm not you're not going to hear like an official minus media group recommendation that you not recall your phone and then go and blame me when it lights on fire in your pocket. I don't want to open up that kind of worms. Recall your phone. Recall your phone. You heard it here first. Well, later after the keep it away from flammable surfaces. You should do that anyway, right? Keep it away from flammable. I got it. I got it. Yeah. Keep it away from open flames. That's all I read that. Yes. Keep it off the surface of the sun. Yeah. That's got to actually very hard to put something on the sun. But yeah, no, I have had every note that has ever existed. And really? Yeah. All the whole line. And this is by far the best. Definitely like bar none. It also feels the best. It's like the curves. There's just so much good about it that it's definitely this is my example of how you don't always have to continuously do massive leaps forward, right? It's refined. That's what this is. Right. Yeah. If you're taking a product and just constantly refining it to the point of almost perfection. Accept that it lights on fire. Accept the fact that it might catch on fire. Yes. I mean, as long as you don't charge it ever, then you'll be fine. Yeah, I think that's the key. OK. So as long as. Single use on that. How do you even do that? I also wirelessly charge everything. So is this only through the port? Do you know? So I avoid wireless charging for the same reason. Yeah. More heat. Yeah. Worse for the battery. And that's another thing to consider. If your battery is on the edge, more heat could push it over the edge in a way that not more heat could not. Yeah. Yeah, Brandon would always wirelessly charge his phone and his battery was just complete crap. That was on his Nexus 5, right? Yeah, I think so. He basically had it sitting on a wireless charger all the time. Yeah. Oh, that's stupid. Top-down. Yeah, you should probably just plug that thing in to charge it. I mean, I. I have to buy a USB-C cable. I know. Come on. Oh, my phone might explode. Oh, poor Matt with his big nerd fusion studio and can't afford a cable. He has all these wonderful Lego dump trucks. That thing is cool. Thank you, Tarrion. That's the first thing he saw when you came in this room. That's right. Yeah. I know it was. We have to keep him physically away from the Lego at work if we want him to stay focused. I have a whole box of Lego. Focused on his editing. Really? I do. It's fine. I'm waiting for him to correct it. I know. It's the trigger moment. I think I said it so fast. Really? You don't. Yeah, yeah, okay. You're not supposed to pluralize it. There you go. You're right. Well, there's another one where people say Lego as in the company, but it's actually the Lego group. So there's two gotchas. Yeah, Lego is not the company. That's the most boring fact we ever have on the WAN Show. That's six. Oh. Beyond. Yeah, I hope we didn't need that key. The most boring fact. I'm just trying to think of things that we've discussed. Like, we've discussed, like, arguments I've had with my wife on the WAN Show. And you took the boring cake right there. Well, you know, I've got to top something over here. I've got to, you know. All right. So next article. This was originally posted on the forum by Card. Card with an E, pretentious card. And this is a European Commission. Where does the E go in Card? Card at the end. Okay. I couldn't figure that out. Sorry. Go ahead. European Commission press release database site. Here we go. Ireland gave illegal tax benefits to Apple worth up to 13 billion euros. And the European Commission has concluded that because Ireland granted these undue tax benefits to Apple, which is illegal under EU state aid rules because it allowed Apple to pay substantially less tax than other businesses, Ireland must now recover that illegal aid. And there are a bunch of different angles that you can go at this from. I mean, we've got sort of we've got the US jumping in and saying, yo, you know, Apple's an American corporation. Why is Ireland all of a sudden going to be taking this 13 billion euros? You know, you guys can't be getting involved in this. And if you're getting involved, why aren't we getting involved? Like, I mean, whenever 13 billion euros is changing hands, you know, someone's going to be upset about who's paying it. And someone's going to be upset about who's getting it. So there's there's a lot of debate there. But you know what? So hold on. Let me just see if there's anything else sort of fact wise. Then I'll launch into sort of what I think of this. So blah, blah, blah. Illegal state aid. There's been a suggestion that the bill could be as much as 19 billion after interest is added, which is pretty, pretty fun. I mean, honestly, I think it's I think it's bullshit to be charging Apple interest on something that you told them they didn't have to pay. Yeah. Not not that I'm saying that I think, you know, state sponsored tax evasion is necessarily a good thing. I'm just saying like, is that a lot of money? 19 billion euros. Like you must be so American, dude. My question is, like, they made they made they clearly had to have made leaps and bounds above that. Yes. They that's just the because Ireland's corporate tax rate is already only 12 and a half percent. OK, so yeah, they made way more. Yes. Now, hang on. How? Why? Why would they give these tax breaks in the first place? OK, so that's a whole other discussion. We'll get to that after. So Michael Noonan, the Irish finance minister, favors an immediate appeal over the tax bill, insisted that Ireland had to preserve its status as a low tax base for overseas companies. So we'll sort of get into that as well. And that the country. So the country made deals with Apple, allowing them to pay tax on profits at a maximum of one percent. Oh, so even compared to their 12 and a half percent. Now, to put this in the appropriate context. OK. Oh, I thought this was like a different kind of tax. In British Columbia, Canada, Linus Media Group pays about 25 percent corporate tax on its profits. Just to give you guys some idea. Is that federal or is that? That's all together. Actually, you know what? I'm going to go to a lifeline on this one because I don't want to give you guys the wrong facts. It may actually be more. How much is corporate tax? We live in a state where NerdFusion does not pay any state income tax because we don't have it. Really? Yeah. Oh, that's right. I knew that. That's the whole reason that Vancouver, Washington exists. Right. So you can shop in Oregon with no sales tax and live in Washington with no income tax. You just don't pay tax down there. Oh, wow. That's great. Where do you guys even get roads from? Because we charge for the roads. I'm driving around the roads. Our roads have like some lanes that are toll lanes. If you want to, you can pay extra money to go faster. There's there's net neutrality does not exist on our roads. So, OK, we've got a couple of us. Pay to win. We've got a couple more statements. So the credit ratings agency Standard & Poor's pointed out that an injection of 13 billion euros would reduce Ireland's national debt significantly. I mean, OK, there is a lot of money. Yes. That would be more than five percent of Ireland's gross domestic product. Five percent of Ireland's GDP and warned that it could undermine the government at the same time. Now, Apple CEO Tim Cook has just graciously accepted the ruling, has pulled out the check. Just kidding. Sorry, you fooled me. Has launched claims. So this is a quote. The European Commission has launched an effort to rewrite Apple's history in Europe. What? Which is one way of putting it, I suppose. What? Ignore Ireland's tax laws and rhetoric and upend the international tax system. Are you kidding me? That is what the EU Commission is doing. How can we stand for any of these things? The international tax system. There is no international tax system. Also, Ireland is not part of the thing that Brexit is. Brexit? Ireland? Yeah. Is that part of that? Yeah. So does the EU control anything? I don't know what happens. Hold on a second. I can't remember. Scotland is. Ireland's in the UK, right? What is the UK? Now we're all the England Americans. Why did you even bring it up? Good heavens, now we look so dumb. We should know more about this being Canada. I said yes initially, so let's find out if I'm right. Why? It comprises four countries. England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland. So this is Southern Ireland. This is Ireland Ireland. Cool. So now, there's good. Now we know that. That feels so much better. We learned a thing. Sorry, all Americans and Canadians for that matter know about that entire group of islands is from Braveheart. And it fits inside of Texas. Fun fact. The kilt, which was depicted in Braveheart as being a thing that Scottish people wear, didn't actually become commonplace or even invented for that matter until about 150 years later after the events of the movie. 150 years after the events of the movie. A more interesting fact than the Lego group. Yes. Terry, you're still on the bottom. I just don't care anymore. So let's talk about this. Okay, this is great. So as a corporation that pays literally... Hold on. Let me see if my wife, who is our actual accountant, actually knows these things. Okay. So whatever. I know it's deep into double digits. So as a corporation that pays deep into double digits taxes... Yeah, we're about the same. Before you do? Federally, yeah. Oh, federally? Federally. Oh, so it's just no state tax? Right. We don't have any state tax. There is federal tax on profit. Okay. Never mind. Absolutely. Okay. I thought we were going to be able to have kind of two sides of it. I mean, it's definitely less than yours. Okay. I really hope that I hear back from her in time. That seems like a lot. I might even just call her. Because my understanding is... So the first little bit, like if you're a really small company, you don't actually get hit that hard. But after a certain point, it starts being actually quite a lot. Yeah, we have that too, which is why we have fun accounting that happens. The first... For us, I think it's the first 500,000 or something like that gets taxed at a lower rate. Wow. That's really good actually. What does our corporate tax rate work out to in percentage? Can you give me a ballpark? Ours maxes out at 33. But... Oh, can you just ballpark it? This is enthralling. Three nerds on there. Okay. Thank you. Okay. So it's somewhere between 20 and 40% for us. And I think it goes up to nearly the upper limit. Yeah, I think we're definitely less than that. So does it bother you that multinationals with the capability, if they were paying taxes, of significantly reducing an entire country's national debt, are paying 1% tax on profit? 1% is ridiculous. How did Ireland rationalize it at the beginning? Like why wouldn't they want the money? So I think they want the jobs. Okay? So they want the jobs for the citizens. And that's... I mean, that's the kind of... Is 5% of their employment going to Apple? Like, that's how much it is. I mean, Apple employees... And actually, okay, so that's another thing to consider, is not all of the corporations that, quote-unquote, have their headquarters in a country like Ireland actually employ a significant number of people there. So that can be a factor in this kind of a decision, but in this case, I actually don't know that it was, because my understanding is that Apple in particular does not employ a ton of people in Ireland. And I'm sure that Twitch chat is going to be... Apparently they have call centers in Ireland. There you go. That's it? Yeah. This is all over call centers? Call centers? Listen, Apple needs that 16 billion to build that stupid building they're building in... Where is that? Okay, 5,000... Okay. They commit to invest in infrastructure. What infrastructure? So I don't know. But infrastructure can mean anything. It can mean roads, it can mean urban development, it can mean pretty much anything. It's what you say to a place to make them be okay with you causing a lot of noise and traffic. Yep. Blah, blah, blah. Okay, okay. And this is another good point. Ireland wants the 1%. Because even 1% of Apple's profits is better than 0% of Apple's profits. So basically it becomes like a bidding war between countries for who can offer the lowest corporate taxes. This is great. Thank you Twitch chat for contributing positively to a conversation. You guys are awesome today. Note that I said today. So Ireland says, okay, you can be here and we're only going to charge you the 1% and the EU is like, hey, Ireland, now you're charging the full price. So it's all good for Ireland. Shoot, they're in a really good place. They're in a really good place unless Apple bails on Ireland and all the other high-tech companies because Apple is not the only one that's using Ireland as a tax shelter. If you were making it part of your business as a country to attract 1% of the profits of tech giants like Apple and Google, then all of a sudden being stuck where the price is fixed, where you have effectively a minimum advertised price similar to how retailers are stuck selling a product at the same price if that's part of the manufacturer agreement. If they're stuck in a price fixing situation, or I shouldn't say price fixing, price fixing is illegal. It's a different thing. If it's like a fair competition act kind of thing, then what can they offer other than slashing the price? And I think there's some good things that could come out of that. We could have countries coming up with more interesting and more innovative ways to attract companies, and we could have companies, well, actually injecting some of that private money that quite frankly, what do they even need it for at a certain point? Injecting some of that private money back into the citizens that are staffing their companies, even if they're not willing to pay it to them directly. I mean, we've all seen the growing disparity between the wages of the highest 1% and the average working blue-collar Joe. Yeah. So overall, I think this is great. Yeah, I think Ireland wins here. I think there's so many other companies there that are probably like, wow, we weren't charged 1%. Like whoever's over there, people in charge saying Microsoft is over there. What if Microsoft is being charged that full amount, and now they're just finding out about this? I don't think they are, but maybe they're paying 1.2%. 1.2%. Mind you, if everyone ultimately has to come back and back pay at the same rate. That's when they all move to, what's that island jersey, that tax haven island over there? Anyway, I mean, this is really frustrating. As someone who actually pays taxes, who actually feels like they paid for the road that leads to the building that they occupy, it is very, very frustrating for me that the bigger you get, the less you get leaned on, especially because, and you look at it from a personal, I don't know if your personal taxes work the same way, but from a personal tax and for normal businesses tax, the more you make, the more you pay. Yeah. Up to a point. That's absolutely the truth. I mean, the first, I think it's $26,000 or $28,000 a year that you make in British Columbia. There's no tax. So if you're very low income, there is no income tax. And then as you go up, you get into a higher and higher tax bracket. But the way it works is there's no punishment for going up into a higher tax bracket because you only pay the higher tax rate on the income you make over the last threshold. So once I think you're past about $100,000 a year, it goes up as high as 40% personally. And we have a 12% federal and provincial sales tax total. So we actually pay over, plus property tax if you're a landowner, plus bridge tolls. Like I have to pay a toll every time I want to go into Vancouver City. Just think of how many taxes. You can take the route if you like hate yourself. You could pay yourself half of minimum wage to go around. Depending on where you're going, it'll be like only five more minutes and then I'll take it. If there's like a traffic jam, you know, because Google will tell you. But yes, it's ridiculous. With those tax laws, just think about how much money your country is going to make when Trump wins and everybody decides, hey, I'm going to go to Canada, right? As the fix it. Yeah, I don't know. You know what's actually funny is Canada is working on loosening up the rules for getting into the country. Yeah, particularly if you are Canadian educated. Yeah, so if you came to Canada as a student and you did like an exchange program or some kind of foreign study thing, then what Canada is trying to do is instead of educating these bloody people, and what people don't really understand is that university is very expensive or colleges, you call it here in the US of A. Colleges are very, very expensive for students, but at least in Canada anyway, the actual cost to educate those students is much, much higher. There are heavy government subsidies as it is. So basically you're taking these international students who do pay more, but I'm still actually not quite sure if it covers it. You're educating them with the Canadian system. They're getting immersed in Canadian culture, and then you're basically going, OK, out you go. Go back to wherever you came from. You can't come back. Which makes no sense to me. I mean, the people care enough about Canada and Canadians and Canadian culture that they came to study here, and then what, we're going to kick them out? I mean, what would that mean for people like Dennis? We're taking young, single, educated, Canadian culturalized people, and we're saying you can't live here. I mean, those are the ideal immigrants. Yeah. Anyway, people are all, the entire chat is like Canadian culture in quotes. We have poutine. We have maple syrup. We have maple bacon. We have maple ice cream. OK? They're very sorry. Maple bacon is fantastic. That's not culture, though. All right. Yeah, things you eat are culture. I mean, what culture would America have if it wasn't for food? Well, America is like... Well, it's not so much the food that's the culture, it's the amount of it. It's like lots of food. Yeah, that's right. You want to throw stones? I'll throw stones. How awkward. You kind of have to defend both a little bit. Well... Because you have to go home eventually. You've got to actually go to Canada. I can go wherever I please. All right, so next topic coming up is YouTube being accused of censoring vloggers. Where's that hat again? Yeah, I don't actually normally do this where I'm like, haha, I'm going to tease a topic before I jump into a bunch of sponsor spots. But I really want you guys to stay tuned for that discussion because I think it is going to be a good one. So our first sponsor of the day is Squarespace. You can get 24-7 support via live chat in brackets. We don't offer telephone support. It costs only $8 a month. You get a free domain if you buy Squarespace for a year. I'm just going to read the talking points because Nick keeps yelling at me for ad-libbing. What does that mean? Like he doesn't like when you just... That's what makes a better livestream. Right? So you know what? Squarespace. 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Comes in in like a suit and tie, dip it through pipes. Like, you don't want that. Okay, well, you're going extreme, okay? Well, as an example. Yeah, I want the person who's been doing it for a long time. He just doesn't care about how he looks. He just knows he's getting the job done. I'm just getting those pipes fixed. I see. So you think that in order to be a good plumber, you just have, you've been bent over that long, so long that your pants are worn out. That your belt is molded to that shape so it's always just pulling down your pants. So you're cracked. Okay, so then is that, I mean, is that a form of discrimination? I mean, you guys have serious anti-discrimination employment laws here in Washington. I would only hire a plumber that shows crack. I see why Nick doesn't like it when you're adding them. So if it's a female- Sponsor spots. This is fine. They're going to talk about that. So if it's a female, is that sexual discrimination? 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So whether you're setting new financial goals, finding a way to ask your boss for a raise, and actually deserve it since you have new skills, FreshBooks is a great way to go. FreshBooks. This one is just... Hopefully Lynda doesn't watch this. Whatever. I'm bringing it back. I'm bringing it back, okay? Lynda's great. You learn stuff. You can watch the VODs on your mobile device even without a data connection. So you can stop wasting time on the bus. You can start learning on the bus. I did that on the airplane. What does that mean? How do you do without a data connection? You download them ahead of time. You just click the little things and then you can... Oh, I'm watching this figure drawing videos on the airplane. Is she the one always talking in this? No. No. I don't know who Lynda is. Lynda's a mascot. They're all different... I mean, is this the guy on the stream? Yeah. Didn't you listen? Lyna said industry professionals. Yes, I got that. I re-listened. You re-listened in your brain. Yes, as soon as I realized it wasn't an actual person. Okay, so this is... You know what? I'm glad we're having this conversation. Because now I know that my Lynda.com talking points are too complicated. Lynda.com is not one person. Yeah. It is kind of a... Name Lynda. Name Lynda. It is a confusing name. It is. Okay. Super tutorials talking about. Forget it. You can get a free trial for 10 days at Lynda.com slash WAN show. And see for yourself. And start learning today. After that, plan start at only 25 bucks a month. Alright. Oh, I hate you all. Okay, so let's move on to the big news. The big one. The original article, this was posted by Ramam attacks on the forum. The original article that I actually saw was Sexy Phil's post which had a very, very incendiary title. Something like, YouTube is shutting my channel down and I don't know what to do with Phil DeFranco. Oh, I see that too. Sorry, I don't think anyone calls him Sexy Phil anymore. His like old channel name is SSE Phil. SSE, right. Kind of like Austin Evans' old channel name is Duncan33303. I think I'm one of the only guys whose channel name is actually my channel name because they let you switch it now. So if I wanted to rebrand to something not quite so narcissistic, I could. But I won't. Why would you? So here we go. Why is YouTube being accused of censoring vloggers with the sub headline here? Is that called a byline? Nothing has changed. I don't actually have a news background. I just run this podcast. With the sub title. Little, littler title. Yeah, the littler, the like gray and not black one. It's not always gray. It's smaller. It's italicized and the font is smaller. The worst is when they repeat what you already read in the title like three or four times. Okay, so let's let's stick with the facts to start with. The fact is that YouTube is not shutting down Phil DeFranco's channel. I mean, the guy's well known for having clickbait titles and you can think of that whatever you will. You know, if it works, I actually as long as the video is somewhat about that, and I guess it's somewhat about how that is not actually what's happening, I guess. Like he sort of that's yeah, because in the video he specifically says like we're not going anywhere. The channel is not shutting down. We have all these other sources of revenue because we're smart and we built up other revenue streams, which is smart. And that's good. It just means that the title really isn't anything to do with reality. So YouTube did not shut down the channel and they have not, as some people have said, changed their terms of service. Okay, let's let's go ahead and pull up the support dot Google page here. I think that's my screen share. Yeah, there we go. This is one of the things I love about the touchscreen, by the way. A lot of people ask me why I care about the touch screen. I actually use it to scroll nicely when I'm when I'm streaming. So these terms of service have not changed content that is considered inappropriate for advertising, not for hosting on the YouTube dot com website. Sexually suggestive, including partial nudity and sexual humor violence, including display of serious injury and events related to that violent extremism, inappropriate language, including harassment, profanity and vulgar language, promotion of drugs and related substances, including selling, use and abuse of such items, controversial, sensitive subjects and events, including subjects related to war, political conflicts, natural disasters and tragedies, even if graphical imagery is not shown. If any of the above describes any portion of your video, then the video may not be approved for monetization. If monetization is approved, your video may not be eligible for all available ad formats. YouTube reserves the right to not monetize a video as well as suspend monetization features on channels that repeatedly submit videos violating our policies. So they haven't changed that. The key difference is in the enforcement of the aforementioned rules. Now, some of this stuff makes a fair bit of sense to me. Some of the videos that clearly violate anti cyber bullying policies, some of which had been revised in the last, I think, four to six weeks, something along those lines. Whereas some of them don't make a ton of sense to me, although I haven't watched the video in question. Phil DeFranco did claim that he had a video that was covering a news item about something controversial, but that wasn't promoting it in any way. And where basically his coverage of the news was being considered not advertiser friendly and therefore not eligible for monetization potentially. That is to say, if his only income stream was from YouTube and Google AdSense, potentially undermining his ability to maintain his channel. That makes sense. Right now, these are the rest of my notes on this, and then we'll open this one up for a real discussion here. And I'm sure Twitch chat is going to get involved as well. So right now, videos seem to be being flagged for reasons that appear to be unfair and unclear. Statements from YouTube suggest that the problem isn't a new policy. It's just a long running conflict between the platform's rules and their execution on those rules. So, don't surprise me. I mean, I think we're going to tin foil hat off. Sorry, could I get another one? Yeah, can we get water? Thank you. You guys have like a producer. Can you like fill it up all the way this time? I still have water because I haven't been talking as much. Thank you. Am I orange because that slide is Tech Tips' color? I'm green. No, it is brown. I gave you your turn. Thank you. Yeah, so I don't know. As a not YouTuber, oh, here we go. It seems to me like YouTube just likes to... Has YouTube done anything right recently? Right, it's where we're like...they seem to do really well when they piss off all their content creators. You think so? They seem to. The YouTube views are going way up. Just look at this topic alone, right? Think about how many videos and how many views are stemming from just this topic alone. Here's a question for you. Do they care? Because these are non-monetizable views that are basically costing YouTube. These can be monetized. Costing...oh. The discussion about this is way more monetizable than what they are un-monetizable. Ours can, but what... Let me put this on. They are definitely making more money off of doing this than if they hadn't done it. Because all these videos, those are videos that have been seen already by the large majority of people that are going to see them. And now there's way more videos, brand new, monetized, talking about this. Thank you for the few million dollars everybody says YouTube, and they keep going. I can tell you that every video from a YouTuber, because many in the YouTube community... The people who care about this within the YouTube community seem to be for the most part super mad about it. Most of the ones I've seen, in fact one I saw was pretty funny, where the guy went out of his way to break every single one of those guidelines. I saw that one. Is it still monetized? No. Okay. Without monetizing it. Meaning that YouTube is effectively just paying storage and bandwidth for something that they don't benefit from. And that has a viewer using up valuable session view time on not making any money for the platform whatsoever. I think I'm making money off of that. They have a whole sidebar full of related content. As long as there's one click after on any of those, you're good. That's right. Interesting. Having good content on YouTube is good for YouTube. Content is king. What else you got for me? I have nothing you can do. I definitely think that doing things like this is what keeps YouTube people talking about it. They want people talking about the platform. This is definitely tinfoil hat stuff right here. That sounds ridiculous to me. Where it's like drama is really good for YouTube views. It just is. And if they have to manufacture the drama, then so be it. I don't get the feeling that they're going out of their way to manufacture drama to get views. I think they're doing this for other reasons. I think this is pure handedness. I think that basically they got some pressure put on them by advertisers. I mean at some point they're going to have to make YouTube profitable. They're going to have to figure out how to do that. They don't have to have any of that. I think at some point, well okay, I know for a fact that one of the business goals within the YouTube business unit is to be profitable. Whether Google actually expects it to happen or not. As they stretch. Or whether Alphabet expects it to happen or not, I'm not sure. But that is a goal. That is something that they seem to be working towards with things like YouTube Red. Which does extract more money per individual view than advertisement. By the way, that's interesting because there's YouTube Red videos that are not demonetized that break those guidelines. Somebody has gone through and compiled a list of 30 or 40 YouTube Red videos whose titles completely go against it. Like have weight in them and stuff like that. Interesting. Yep. Well, awkward. Okay, so sorry back to, right. So my personal theory is that basically advertisers came to them and said, look, we'll feel better about advertising on the platform if we don't have our ad displayed on some video full of profanity that is promoting hate and promoting cyberbullying. Or has these controversial topics and all this stuff. And basically what I think is happening is YouTube is trying to figure out a way to deliver their ad inventory. Because there's always a finite amount of ad inventory. They're figuring out a way to deliver their ad inventory in a way that best optimizes their CPMs for both the platform itself and for the content creators who are keeping in line with brand friendly values. While treating the stuff that is not going to be monetizable as sort of collateral damage. And I think that right now, because Google is all about automated systems, it's not like people are manually going through these videos. So right now in the first iteration of the system, they're basically going, yeah, there's going to be, again, there's going to be some collateral damage. We will revise the algorithm over time. And my belief is what they're actually generating on the back end is not just a black and white system. Because they made it very clear in the system, or they made it very clear in the announcement or in the guidelines that the video might not be eligible for all types of advertising. So they might be able to actually have potential advertising partners in the future. I'm looking a year or two years down the road where they can fill out a questionnaire and they can say, what are you comfortable with? Yeah. And then those advertisers. And you'll check this box. Yeah, that's right. That makes a lot of sense. Or if you're willing to have your if you're willing to have your advertisement play on some YouTube drama video about two YouTubers who got in a fight or whatever, that's full of, you know, people saying hateful things to each other, then hey, maybe you pay a little bit less. I think they want to figure I think YouTube's ultimate goal is to monetize every single video on the platform. I think just right now they are rolling this out in stages. And then what the first stage looks like is a very imperfect algorithm for detecting stuff that they know is definitely or probably not safe for all the advertisers that they have now. And then they'll work on rolling out something more granular in the future. And I think that while it is totally crap for people to have made YouTube a job to have to have relied on the benevolence of of Google who runs this wonderful platform that makes it so people can quit their jobs and start doing this as a full time job. Even if they're not business savvy people, I think it's super crappy to those people. But I think that it's also a huge wake up call because what those people have to understand is even if they don't come from a business background, they are entrepreneurs and they're going to have to understand that as great as it's been. And we should be appreciative of Google and YouTube for keeping us divided from this as great as it is to feel like I can say and do whatever I want. And Ford or Frito-Lay or PepsiCo or the major brands like this are going to just display advertising on it. I'm going to make money. That is not how it works in the real world. Absolutely not. So if you imagined that this was going to keep up forever, that brands with like corporate corporate values and those can go on either end of the spectrum and look at Chick-fil-A. I mean you can go you can go all the way from like hyper conservative brands all the way to brands that are like, yeah, whatever, do whatever, bite the heads off of, you know, chickens on on stream or on video for all I care. We'll endorse the crap out of it. People are just going to have to understand that if they expect to get mainstream advertising dollars and those big mainstream CPMs, that content just doesn't fly. And it's a miracle that it did for this long. That's my take on it. I mean, do you think do you think there's something wrong there with how corporations perceive ads? Because right now it seems that they're like this is now part of the content, which is crap. Yeah, right. I don't I don't think a single viewer out there thinks that the ad is in any way related to the content. That I think is wrong. Really? Oh, yes. Oh, yes. I mean, I mean, all you got to do is spend some time on Tumblr. Do we have to find glad I don't do that right to find people who can get very upset writing letters, writing handwritten letters to CEOs because they saw an ad for Colgate toothpaste on some YouTube video where someone was swearing. And the problem is that it only takes one person. Well, that person is wrong. That person is wrong. It doesn't take just one person because advertising is all about a massive message to lots and lots of people. If just one person gets mad, that's fine. They don't care. No, but OK, so hold on. Hold on. So no, I vocal minority because I agree with you that corporations are viewing advertising wrong and that that person is viewing advertising wrong. But you also have to understand that from a corporation perspective, you have to tread very lightly around that stuff because one angry person can turn into a thousand or ten thousand angry people very, very quickly as soon as it ends up on national news because some rinky dink news outlet had nothing else to talk about today. Besides the fact that a Colgate ad played on this video, besides the fact that Colgate for that one person, besides the fact that Colgate is paying money. I mean, that's the thing. Anywhere money exchange that's not how that work, Colgate does not pay that content creator. That's not how the system works. Effectively, they don't pay YouTube and then YouTube serves it wherever they please. That's right. And Colgate has every right to be mad if their money and their ad and their brand gets associated with someone else. And and I don't think they should be mad in this case. No, no, they shouldn't. But remember, I mean, we've had OK, we've had this conversation offline. The advertising industry is like 30, 40 years ago. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Right. They are. They are nowhere. OK. They're nowhere near ready for YouTube, let alone Twitch. Yeah, that's very true. So none of this is surprising. But I mean, like there there's it's just it's I think this is just an education thing where YouTube is is taking some stance on something. Without even attempting to educate their advertisers that are advertising. We don't know why you and I spend a lot of time educating people that come to us. Right. You put a lot of time talking to them about things like this. Talking to Linda dot com about why it's better if we screw up your ad read. It is better and it is better and it is better. Totally. I have more fun. Yeah. And that's what it's all about. Having more fun personally. Right. Is it just that YouTube is spending enough time educating advertisers into, hey, welcome to 2016 in 2016? So here's the thing is like you've dealt with big brands, big brands, and I'm not going to name any names, but we have dealt with brands that come with very big egos. I mean, when you're talking to a hundred year old company that has become one of the Fortune 50 companies through a longstanding tradition of behaving a certain way and having a certain set of brand values. Yeah. When you're talking to them and you're going, yeah, yeah, but that's all out the door in the last three years. Don't worry about it. Yeah. Can you imagine the kind of pushback you're going to get? I mean, it depends. I'm taking my paycheck and I'm giving it to someone else. That's simple. I'll give it to Malcolm in the middle reruns because that's just the right, that's just the right amount of edgy. Oh God. Did you like that show? I love that show. It's great. But you don't like that show? It's all right. It's all right. It's like Dewey's the worst child actor on the face of the earth. It's like everybody loves Raymond, like area of. Oh, it's better than everybody loves Raymond. Come on. Anyway, like what you said about like not black and white, but having various levels of, you know, gray between where an advertiser can say, I'm OK with this, but not that. I think that makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Like and if they would describe it and explain it that way. Well, they're not. I don't think they're ready to roll it out that well. But people are getting really upset because they don't understand what the heck is going on. Like you said, there's not enough education going on here. Yeah. But that's always YouTube's problem. Like they're always sending out like remember when this is happening now. So, yeah, yeah. I mean, so here's the bottom line. Here's the ultimate bottom line on this. This was a matter of time. And this is a huge wake up call for YouTubers about the fact that they they are business owners that they do have to conduct themselves in a professional manner if they expect sponsors to give them any money. And fact number three is that YouTube is not censoring anyone. They are not telling anyone that you can't continue to upload your videos to the site. I mean, it's a shame we won't pay you to do it. It's a fact. It's kind of it's an effective censorship. You're not saying we'll show you down because of what you're saying. Because if someone's had a show where they've done this for the past like three years, they have a certain thing that they do, you know, they're more rough around the edges. Yeah. And now, oh crap, I can't make any more money this way because nobody's going to want to advertise with me. I mean, like you said, maybe we all have to grow up about it. Yeah, maybe you have to grow up and realize that this is either a hobby or it's or you're a businessman and you're a professional. But you can't say because someone says a curse word is no longer a profession. That's true. And you know what? I think like sensitive political topic. What does that mean? I think the algorithm is way too heavy handed right now. I agree with that. I also I also think that they are heading to a place where it will ultimately be something that makes sense to me, especially if they can have a tiered system where the edge year, the content, the fewer sponsors are going to are going to whitelist it and are going to be OK with it or going to sign on for it. And ultimately, the lower CPMs you might make, but that you might still be able to make money. I just think that this ultimately is a bit of a wake up call and that hopefully we're heading somewhere better with it and that YouTube has done a crap job of communication and implementation. But they always do that and they always over fix and then pull it back. That's just a typical thing. Yes. Maybe that's a tactic of theirs. That's basically what we're looking at here. And ultimately, you know what? It isn't the Phil DeFranco's of the world. And he said this himself. It isn't the Phil DeFranco's of the world that are going to suffer from this. Sure. It is the up and coming guys, the guys that do not have a thriving merch business or that do not have a thriving direct donation business or that do not have any other means of augmenting their income. And so ultimately, and this is the part that is most shitty about it, is that it is the least business like that are going to be affected the most. The people who had the least chance of seeing it coming. Because quite frankly, Linus Media Group could survive if YouTube shut off our adsense. We are set up in such a way that we are ready for that because I've seen this coming literally years in advance. From the moment I founded Linus Media Group, I was trying to figure out how to not be reliant on the benevolence of YouTube. Even if I still needed to use it to reach a large audience, I had to find other ways to monetize that audience. What that also means is I am deeply experienced dealing directly with sponsors, and I'm already aware of these sensitivities. So it is the guys that stumbled into it that don't have the business acumen that are ultimately getting crapped on the hardest by this, and that sucks. And they really need to fix it. But ultimately the bottom line is, this was coming. So don't be that surprised. There. I mean, I think everyone's surprised it was so heavy. Yes. Because that should probably not have come. It's so heavy handed. It is. It's way too far. Yep. They definitely, I don't know, and to use an automated system to detect when someone's cursing and just like, that is it. Wait, wait, that part is automated if you say something? I think right now, from what I understand, it's mostly tags and things like that. And like users reporting maybe. Yeah, and then users flagging. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Because as soon as this thing came out, obviously a bunch of people started flagging videos, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. And then you get a bunch of false flags. All the do-gooders of the world. Yeah, yeah, all the SGWs. But then of course then, yeah, like I understand they want to automate it because like, you can't have like a room full of people just watching videos all day to listen for one swear word. Sounds like a fun job, right? That does not sound like a fun job at all. No, that's what they use the report feature for and I call it a feature when it's, yeah, that's something different. All right, so I will finally somewhat weigh in on the situation over at TechSyndicate. Let's go ahead and pop over to Linus's screen. So actually the main source I have for this is Linus Tech Tips Forum because as part of the whole, and I'm going to, I need my allegedly sign because ultimately I don't- We need some more props up in here. Because there is a lot of conflicting information. Have you been following this at all? I have not. Do you know who they are? I learned. Okay, right. I briefly learned. Okay, well, whatever. Anyway, the point is- You don't want to explain though. Yeah. Who is TechSyndicate? Okay, so they're another YouTube channel that makes videos about sometimes tech. I'm going to look up, because I think I know who it is. The guy who runs it used to be the TigerDirect YouTube guy. You know TigerDirect? I do know TigerDirect. Okay, so he used to be their YouTube personality like- I do know who that is. Way back in the day. Okay. That is a nice view. I definitely know who that is. So basically the drama llama is all over the place. There have been a couple of public statements released from what appear to be sort of two warring camps, allegedly. I'm going to fill it with that. Basically, Logan and Pistol appear to be on one side with Wendell and Kane and- Shoot, I don't remember her name. Jennifer. With Wendell, Kane, and Jennifer kind of on the other side. What it looks like right now, though I haven't actually checked the thread today, so I don't know if anything new has come out. Let's just go ahead and have a look here. Tuesday, blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah. Wow, there's a lot of posts per page on our forums, apparently. So there's 10 pages on the latest thread here. We're going to experience this together. Let me just say, your SEO for your forums, nailed it. Thank you. Not me. It's mostly a Luke thing. Okay, basically Wendell came out and said, okay, we have some problems. It appears as though there's some misappropriation of funds. I am a part owner in the company. I believe he did clarify his shares are 30%. The company has been increasing in revenue by 125K a year or so for the last three years, which gives us some idea what at least a bare minimum of the overall company gross income is, even if that doesn't tell us anything about profitability or how much is being paid to employees or whatever else the case may be. Patrons were complaining that they weren't getting the Patreon rewards they were promised. I don't watch the channel, so allegedly, just based on posts I'm seeing on Reddit, Techs Indicate Forum, our own forum, people were saying the content's actually getting worse, even though patrons are contributing all this money. Wendell basically came out and said, look, I don't understand where this money is going. I'm a shareholder, and what is going on? Many strong words were exchanged, particularly by Pistol. There's been a lot of speculation as to what exactly the role that she plays in all of this is. Logan has released a statement saying it's all basically down to miscommunication. Kane has been fired, apparently, or quit, depending on who you ask. Jennifer is definitely gone. Wendell, from my understanding of it, appears to be definitely on the way out, claims that Logan owes him for his shares, and is seeking a minimum of the amount that he figures he owes him just in unpaid services for the company. Let me just see if there's anything else new. The forums were shut down, but they're back online. That was a whole controversy. In the hullabaloo with people posting public email exchanges, public chat exchanges on both sides of this conflict, in all of that, Logan says, he alleges, that the forum was shut down accidentally because he let Kane go and was worried that he would sabotage it. But people are posting screenshots of Logan threatening to shut down the forum if people don't stop criticizing whatever it is they're doing, or whatever else they're being haters, or whatever the case may be. Pretty much, I guess, the bottom line is that it looks like a pretty bad situation over there. You'll still see Wendell on the channel for a while. There's stuff that's been recorded weeks ago that's still getting published. A video went up with him in it, and everyone's like, oh, I guess it's okay. It's like, oh, by the way, that's not how a video works unless you're this guy. You've got to work way ahead in an industry like this. I don't know how you guys are at this. We have videos written that are three weeks from YouTube publication. We have videos shot that are... Is that how long this video is going to... Oh, yeah. This video will be a while. There's the editing queue, there's the vessel time delay window. Oh, right. You do the weekly... By the time you can watch it, unless you're subscribed to Vessel, which I doubt very much that you are. I totally am, Linus. Everybody should be. Just for you, Linus. Yeah! A lot of people are on Vessel just for us. We're very popular on Vessel. So there. Basically, my bottom line on this one is I haven't worked with anyone over there since Highlander in any capacity, so I don't really have any comment other than to summarize everything that I have basically read on Reddit, TechSyndicT forum, LinusTechTips forum, et cetera. So there you go. I wish them... I mean, drama's fun. Drama's fun. It just likes when it happens to you, right? Yeah. That's okay. We have... What I will say is someone posted a rumor who claims to be very close to the source, and I would say that their source... It was him! Dun, dun, daaah! Can we get a zoom in on that? Well, I do ominous music notes. I'm just kidding. He's about to jump out of the chair. So what I will say about this person's source is that either they are completely full of crap or this person is completely full of crap, but someone claimed that a Linus Media Group employee will be making the jump over to TechSyndicate. I can assure you that is not happening. And, yeah. It's actually Linus. I can also assure you that would not be a very good... Yeah, joke's on you. You guys are on your own. You can rename it to just TechTips, you know, or like... Luke TechTips. Yeah, yeah. Taryn TechTips. Taryn alliteration. Taryn TechTips? Taryn TechTips. Yeah, it sounds like an extremist group. The TTT. Oh, okay, yeah. I can see that. Yeah, we might want to rethink our image. I'll work on the name. Alright, so I guess I didn't really talk to Twitch Chat much while we were talking about all this stuff. Yeah, what have they been saying? Lots of Harambe things. Lots of Harambe. You know what's really funny? Again, most of our participation in internet memes, I feel like, is at least half unintentional. So my video on the Galaxy S7 contains gorillas. No, wait, no, no, it's WhatCPUToBuy. Yeah, WhatCPUToBuy has... You randomly put gorillas... No way it was random. No, I put the gorillas in. That's correct. So anyway, that video was written. Yeah. Then there was a week plus delay in editing. Yes. Then there was a week delay to go to YouTube from Vessel. So I had two people who left reviews for the $1,700 CPU, the 6950X Extreme Edition. Two people who left reviews that were like these, like, chest-thumping, this CPU is so great and so am I for using it, and so is anyone else who uses it. And the other guy's like, yeah, you're great and I'm great too. You know, I only spent this much on my total rating. $4,600. Which is less than you, but still awesome. I'm still a baller. So we had these gorillas pop in while we highlighted the goofy stuff these guys were saying, and we had these gorilla sound effects. So we participated in the Harambe meme. You totally knew that was a thing. Completely unintentional. I'm on Twitter and I get all these Harambe. That is straight up meme sitting. I had to Google it. I basically am not an internet citizen. I have two children. Could you imagine if the gorilla picture that you chose accidentally was Harambe? Well, it was off Shutterstock, so the odds were like one in a thousand. Just because it would have been like high. All gorillas kind of look the same to me. Yeah, but right now if you search gorilla, I guarantee most of you. Triggered. I am so triggered right now. I'm triggered by you being triggered. Okay, I can't be in a room with someone who's been triggered. Very triggering. Very triggering. So you can't be in a room with yourself? It's like a freaking paradox. It's a box and a box and a box and a box. Alright, so let's do some of our more rapid fire topics. Our original article here posted by Tim Q on the forum is from Unon'd Tech. The Acer Predator 21X, which confirmed I will be one of the first to receive a review unit of. That's one big laptop. That's huge. Features an undisclosed Kaby Lake processor, GTX 1080 desktop grade SLI, and a curved gaming display. A curved display on a laptop. Is it a laptop at that point? Yeah, I mean come on. Do those look like mechanical keys to you? Yeah, they are mechanical keys. Does that look like a laptop? That's like a desktop that's been put in a trash compactor and it still works. Look at these vents. Take that on an airplane and see what they say. I think the vents are here too. Look at this thing. No, I'm looking at it. To be clear, you do not actually need quite that much ventilation. We actually have a GTX 1080 SLI video, like a laptop, coming up on YouTube in I think six days or something like that. Again, working your head. Already out on Vessel? Already out on Vessel. Look at the plugs! Thank you for that. All you're doing is plugging them being mad at me for being on Vessel. Thanks a lot for that. This thing looks ridiculous. Yeah, that's dope. I can already tell you what the review will be, so I'm even spoiling it for the Vessel piece. What do you want to say? Indulge us. This thing is amazing. It's the best gaming experience in a laptop you could possibly have. But it's not really a laptop. Yeah, that's what we just said. There you go. There's the conclusion. Done. Peace. Line us out. As long as it doesn't explode if you quick charge it, it'll be fine. So Acer acknowledges that this laptop is more of a proof of concept than any sort of big seller in retail. However, Acer has become more and more savvy as time has gone on about gaming. And I think half of it is by accident, and I think this could end up being a big hit. So the draw is that it's just so baller. So I gave MSI a ton of crap about the GT80 Titan. I made fun of it in my review. It was a very expensive computer. And I told them in person, I was like, this is a concept car, right? Six months down the road, I get an email like, yo, dog, you were wrong. It's a huge seller. And you know the GT80 Titan, right? I do. The one with the mechanical, actual Cherry MX mechanical. Oh, that one! You hated that. Well, maybe not hated. I didn't hate it. It was really cool. It's not a laptop. Totally unique piece of hardware, amazing piece of engineering. Just I wouldn't use it. I'd never use it. I know. Just the look on your face in the room when you saw it for the first time, I was like, oh, that's not that great. What is that? I'm not impressed. It's just, I mean, there's a reason that there's this whole market now for these external cages for your... Laptop? No, for just graphic cards. To plug into your laptop. Because a laptop is meant to be moved at some point. Yeah, spoiler alert, the Kaby Lake processor that was allegedly on the show floor somewhere is in a product that looks pretty cool for that. So it's a super mobile product. So here are the base specifications. I didn't cover all of them. Mechanical keyboard with Cherry MX switches, 21 inch curved IPS display with a 2560 by 1080 resolution. Four integrated speakers with two built-in sub-links. You're telling me they're only doing 1080p on something that big? It's 2560 by 1080. So it's wider? So it is like 25 or 30% more resolution. But remember, this is a 21 inch display. 1080p looks not bad on a 21 inch display. And it's 21 inches of ultra-wide displays. It'll be okay. Five fans and multiple heat pipes. And here's a shot. There's actually a couple different pictures of it. So here it is open. Let's get the screen share going. What? It has a little fold-out wrist rest. Yeah. So I'm going to ask for one for every one of our video editors, okay, Taron? Yes. You're already complaining about the weight you're carrying today. Yeah, this is like 30 pounds. I don't care. I want a thing that I can edit with. Take a desktop. We used to do that. That's more of a pain in the butt than taking a laptop. We used Acer's SuperSlim 23 inch monitor to carry with our desktop. Until we broke them when we were traveling. We were thinking of making a video out of desktop in a suitcase. I don't think we ever did it. No, we never did it. It's also been done before. I'm literally doing that next week. I'm sorry. It's been done before, but not as well as you will. Yeah, whatever he said. It's been done before doesn't mean I don't want it. I need it. Oh, okay. So you're making one because you want one. Oh, I make it because we're going to use it. Not just for a video. Alright, so this is fun. Carbon nanotube storage coming to market in 2018. Carbon nanotubes. The only thing they can't do is get out of the lab. Which is not my joke. I stole that joke. That's a good joke. It's still a very funny joke because they're supposed to be great for everything. But we never ever see them. As long as the Wanjo has existed, I've been talking about how amazing carbon nanotubes are. And yet I've never seen one. I'm pointing at your logo that has three carbon nanotubes. I thought that's what you were going for. No. That is the shape of the hexagon. I don't know that Ed's that chemistry savvy. I thought that's what you were going for. No. Sorry. Okay. So basically Fujitsu announced that it has licensed Nantero's carbon nanotube based N-RAM. Non-volatile RAM. Which is pretty cool too. Like RAM disks could be much more of a thing. And will participate in a joint development effort to bring a 256 megabit 55 nanometer product to market in 2018. So 2020. If ever. The characteristics include things like unmatchable performance, we hope. Durability and extreme temperature tolerance. And the attraction to these begins with their DRAM speeds. So competing products like 3D Crosspoint, RE-RAM, and PCM suffer from limited endurance thresholds. N-RAM has been tested up to one trillion cycles. That is to say, if they can ever make one. Cool. So that leading edge products will ship with half the cost of DRAM. And that prices will fall as production ramps up. Once again, carbon nanotubes are going to be cheaper, they're going to be faster, they're going to be more reliable. And you might even buy one, one day. If you live for long enough. It's like that bike company that's like, here's a $5,000 bike, it'll be only $500 to make this in five years. Overly optimistic. So SpaceX's rocket blew up and destroyed a Facebook satellite. So that's a shame. That was one of the coolest videos of explosions that I've seen in a long time. Rocket do what does burn. It sucks that it happened. Poor Mr. Zuckerberg will have to just... You see the explosion and then the capsule that holds the actual satellite in, like it's still intact. And you see it slowly just fall off to the side. And it's still intact, still intact, hits the ground. It was oddly satisfying. So they were conducting a test firing of their unmanned rocket when the blast occurred Thursday morning. They blew up Facebook's first satellite costing around 150 million pounds. That's a lot of pounds. There are insurance companies for that, right? Could they have given that all to Ireland? Surely you insure that. How much would that insurance cost? I mean, why would you think that someone else's rocket is going to blow up on the launch pad making your rocket fall over? I mean, you've got to insure... You can't fall over insurance. People buy insurance for holes in one. That's true, but there's certain things you can't buy insurance for though. Like they won't insure against earthquakes in Vancouver. Oh, but if they pay them enough they would. No, they won't. Surely like Lloyds or somebody would. I don't know. I know that you can insure insane things. Like I've heard of celebrities insuring their hair, for example. Yeah, like Mariah Carey has her voice insured or something like that. I can see that happening, but I don't know. I don't know if that would even occur to me. That would be like the first... If I'm going to put my satellite on something that I have no idea if this thing is going to do anything. The first thing I do is go and confer insurance. I don't know who you asked for that kind of insurance. Yeah. Hey. Geico? Geico? Satellite insurance? Is this something? Come on. Get in on this, you guys. So the satellite was... So, okay, SpaceX confirmed there was an anomaly on the launch pad that resulted in the loss of the rocket and its payload. The satellite also... Doesn't make sense. An anomaly. The Facebook satellite was carrying technology to allow them to spot beam wireless internet directly to smartphones in Sub-Saharan Africa. Whoa. And this information was reported by TechCrunch. What else were they doing with that satellite? Yeah, spot beam means into your brain. I don't know if I want to know that. This is actually pretty great. So the original poster on the forum is good bites, and the original article here that we're pulling from is Ars Technica. Facebook fires human editors. Oh, yeah. Algorithm immediately posts fake news. Wonderful. Breaking. Fox News exposes traitor Megyn Kelly kicks her out for backing Hillary. I don't know who Megyn Kelly is. Fox News. Yeah, okay. She's like an anchor or reporter correspondent or something. She's been involved in like a feud with Trump or something like that. Anyway, so this is great. So earlier this year, Facebook denied criticisms that its trending feature was surfacing news biased against conservatives. The company has fired all its human editors, replacing them with software, replacing them with an algorithm that promotes stories based on what Facebook users are talking about. Wow, putting Facebook users in charge of your feed. Oh, man. That's kind of like they tried to put a positive spin on firing somebody here. Is that what's going on? But that's like, look, Reddit, if you upvote a story, then it goes to the front page. So within 72 hours, according to the Washington Post, the top story trending on Facebook was fake. In a post about the changes, Facebook said the early move to remove human editors was in direct response to the feedback they got from the Facebook community earlier this year. It's actually your fault this sucks. So humans will still be involved with trending in a few ways, such as confirming that a topic is tied to a current news event in the real world. That's a direct quote. That's important. Not the fake one. So now they're rehiring everybody. Probably. They just fired. Probably not. Maybe they'll hire one guy. Do you think they fired people over that or they just moved them? What did you do, fire a robot? Well, the people before the robot. The people who programmed the robot? Oh, I don't know. Because you just said like they fired people to replace them. Maybe they get shuffled around to design satellites. I don't know. Okay, so the rumor is this is post was posted by Kays to Fomal. I don't know how to pronounce that. I don't care. A Led's phone time device info sticker reaffirms 32 gig base storage for the iPhone 7, to which all I have to say is it's about time. Oh, oh, have iPhones been super tiny in storage? Yeah, base model 16 gigs for a device that costs like $800 is ridiculous. Still? Yeah. To an Android user, it's unthinkable. That's pretty ridiculous. Like the progressive Android phone makers are having 64 gig base models with the ones that are still trying to get as many dollars out of you going with 32. I think this one's 64 though, isn't it? Yeah. There you go. There's no excuse for a flagship phone having a 16 gig model. I want to try out an iPhone soon. I haven't ever touched an iPhone. Brandon did it. I think it took him about three months to switch back. Okay, that's a long time. So you know my theory though is about why they're not doing a 16 gig model. So have you noticed that you can't buy a 512 megabyte SD card anymore? Sure. Yeah. So at a certain point, it basically costs the same to make a larger flash chip than a smaller flash chip because we're pretty much down to the bill of materials cost at that point. You're not adding any more dies. There are no dies that are cheaper. So I think basically it is exactly the same price now for Apple to do a 32 gig model. They could have been saving as little as $2. And I think they were still doing it. And they just didn't care. And I think, well, I think part of the agenda, even if it was the same price, maybe it's even cheaper because that's something that happens eventually too. What? It's because there's more demand, more volume and manufacturing at a capacity. I just experienced that with thumb drives. Yep. We ordered a bunch of thumb drives for here and the 16 gigs were cheaper than the 8 gig. That's right. That's right. So basically I think what might have happened because Apple also wants to promote iCloud. They want people investing in cloud storage anyway. So I think even at the same cost, they might have preferred a 16 gig model because when you're Apple and you have the margins and the profits that you do, you can play around with, well, we're really investing in cloud business. We can throw a couple dollars away even to the detriment of the customer directly in order to promote a different business unit or business model. Do you do cloud stuff? No. I never back up to the cloud, do you? So actually this is a great conversation. Unraid has a lot of cool new features coming that might enable you to do some self cloud type stuff. That's cool. Which is pretty cool. They also, I'm trying to convince them, this is not confirmed, but I'm trying to convince them that they should have, without me having to use Crash Plan or something, they should have a direct Unraid box to Unraid box link that I can do offsite storage with. So just like an Unraid clone, like a one button. And they figure it's possible to do it with no need for proxy or port forwarding or anything like that. But it would have to be a paid service because you would have to at least handle the port forwarding through their server. Unless you wanted to configure it yourself. Anyway, it's very much up in the air, I'm trying to convince them to do it. I think it's important. I think they could get a lot of content creators using their storage if they could allow stuff like that. Linus, I don't think anybody understands what you're even talking about when you talk about these things. He does. I do. But like content creators, who are these people? YouTubers, Twitch streamers. You? Yeah, but I don't pay attention. Oh lordy. Yeah, you just complain when the server doesn't work. Okay, well this would be an easier way for the server to work all the time. Okay, see now I get it. Perfect. There we go. That's what I was looking for there. Okay, last topic for today. This was posted by Nicholas FD. Obama signs the internet over to the United Nations. What? What does that even mean? Yeah, I don't know. America to hand off internet in under two months. It means America will be slightly less world police over one fewer thing. What? Within two months. So the Department of Commerce is set to hand off American control of the internet over to international authorities in less than two months. They will finalize the transaction effective October 1st. The move means the internet assigned numbers authority will move from US control to a global one, and the proposal will significantly increase the power of foreign governments over the internet, expand ICANN's historical core mission by creating a gateway to content regulations, and embolden its leadership to act without any real accountability, Senator Ted Cruz said. So yeah, Senator Ted Cruz is not a fan. But honestly, I am not savvy enough to know exactly what this means. I will say that I'm not that cool with America being in control of the internet, but I don't necessarily think the UN is going to do any better of a job of it. So I mean, I get that there's Aaron is it you said Aaron? There's Aaron. I think Aaron there's whatever it's one of those things that means a bunch of things that sort of controls who gets what block. Yeah, right. I can. Did they do that? I don't remember what I think I can is like DNS and like maybe someone else's something. Aaron is the actual IP. Okay, so whatever it is. Sorry, I'm not an internet. This is controlling content as well. No, so it wouldn't be control content would be in control of infrastructure and that makes sense. I guess. I guess. Sure. As long as somebody is managing it and it's not me. It's apparently I am not Aaron. So there you go. Okay. So thank you guys. You're helpful. Welcome. I am in his numbers. I can is DNS. Okay. So I was right about one thing. Yeah. Well, let's have the show on a positive note. Thank you everyone for tuning in. Yeah. We'll see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. Thanks to our special guest, Taron and Matt. You can view him over at twitch.tv slash. That's right. Right. Oh, good. Are we done? Oh, that did work. That did work. Okay. They can still hear us though. Yeah, they can. Oh, I'm sweaty. You just do the intro again. Do you guys have the air con? At six it turns off. I'm not sweaty at all. Oh, that's what ours turns off at six as well. Five thirty. What? Sorry. Wow, you didn't know that. I did not know that. And you're in the air conditioned part of the thing. It's still a little cool remaining at that point. But I can bypass it. Like I've had it on. You can. You can. You can. You can. You can. You can. You can. You can. You can. You can. You can. You can. You can. You can. You can. You can. You can. You can. You can. You can. You can. You can. You can. You can. You can. You can. You can. You can. You can. You can. You can. You can. You can. It's really cool. I'm really enjoying it. I'm really enjoying it. Me too. Thanks for listening. This has been an awesome podcast and we'll see you all again next time. Bye. Bye.