 All right guys welcome to the WAN show it's gonna be a great show for you guys today We are mostly set up Except there are definitely at least two things that I forgot. I didn't log into twitch To monitor twitch chat, and I only have one computer to do that on so I'm gonna be like Trying to figure out. Are you brazzin the dock on that computer? Yeah. Yeah, I'm also using this for the dock There's like the mount for our pop filter is completely in the way of the keyboard and the touchpad, but it's okay I can work around that we have a very special special WAN show for you guys today We've got a lot of great topics as usual What are what are our topics well first? Palmer lucky founder of oculus getting sued for stuff Talk about that more later, and then Intel is rebuilding itself rebuilding the pillars of its foundation Shut up twitch. PC is not one of them. Yeah There's some other good stuff California wants to ban Encrypted smartphones and the US military apparently wants to build cyborgs by combining humans with computers Which the last time I checked is literally the definition of building a cyborg pretty much Yes, how that actually works, so we're gonna roll the intro while I figure out a couple of things quietly behind the scenes here and booyah Good job peanuts gallery All right, we have some sponsors including Fresh books, Linda and what? Comic bento Comic bento what is comic bento well? Well we're not gonna tell you more about that later on yes Sorry I have freshly Freshly last past the crap out of some twitch up in it Out of a lot of my accounts not to mention all the two-factor authentication So it is it is very slow and very difficult for me to get into any of my accounts right now And I'm not streaming from the usual computer So all of this is making everything take much longer than I'd like to want to jump into our first topic here Do you want the first topic to be the first one on the thing? I don't care well the first topic is the US military aims to create cyborgs by connecting humans to computers Which we made a joke about a little bit early on if you're connecting now the joke was That's literally the definition of building a cyborg so like we get it, bro Anyways, I haven't read this one at all, but unsurprisingly. It's DARPA. It's DARPA They do crazy stuff if you look in like if you look at old military movies They're like we're trying this like crazy revolutionary thing we're gonna do some crazy bullcrap, which probably won't work It was probably DARPA. It's I don't know they're the ones that have that like crazy Robotic dog thing that carries stuff around that people kick every single time It's in videos so they can like it corrects itself. Have you seen that is really cool. It is cool I'm not saying it's not cool. I mean, it's just I think that's DARPA as well. It's pretty it's like pretty the bomb Yeah, like it's pretty sweet because you can like people walk up to it and drop kick it really hard And it corrects itself even on ice and then is able to keep walking and it can carry a very large amount of weight I don't remember what it's called. It's called something but Anyways, yeah, so pretty much they want to develop high bandwidth implantable neural interfaces to open the channel between the human brain and modern electronics Obviously I can think of a lot of really beneficial uses for this that are not necessarily blowing up other dudes but I Mean with that like I'm not gonna I'm not gonna rag on the US military too hard either right now because frankly a lot Of stuff that is developed by the US military for US military purposes does eventually Eventually does eventually end up getting used for something. That's a little bit nicer Or a form of it will yeah It's not a new research topic by any stretch of the imagination, but most of the projects have been hampered by a slow limited control So any SD manager for DARPA says today's brain computer interface systems are like Two supercomputers trying to talk to each other using an old 300 bod modem Which is actually kind of kind of a clever way of clever way of putting that I mean Computers are fast and the human brain is amazing But right now the interfaces we have between them I mean the best we can do at the moment is a keyboard and mouse which if you want to be if you wanted to Break that down into like data rate Really really really really really slow like painfully painfully slow So the aim then is to connect individual neurons and establish much finer control with less noise so that you can speed up the communication This will require mm-hmm breakthroughs in the following neuroscience synthetic biology low power electronics Photonics medical device engineering and packaging and all that is according to the agency Yeah, so so it's like I might as well say that I'm planning to build a flying fish We can figure it out by Friday, which will require advancements in the aerodynamics side is Friday. You know oxygeo fish interface material stotosis and That's a word. I wish them luck Basically, it's DARPA so someone's gonna be like we're gonna do this thing. It's gonna require all this crazy crap They're the right people to say that Yeah, I suppose I suppose being honest. That's that's pretty true. No. Oh, oh, that's basically the beginning of black ops 3 oh Okay, some people keep on saying free geek yes, we are here if you guys see the That we sent out we are currently at free geek yes We are like we're right at the receiving bay. Yeah, no there's like there's like some cool stuff going down here I'm actually don't we do like pivot no. I'm gonna. Hope this works wish me luck I'm turning on the bison cam Okay, yes, the bison cam is here. Why did you turn that on I turned on the bison cam? Hey look, it's look. It's Brandon standing on a thing Hi, Brandon Brandon Good job Brandon Whoa there goes everything no wow no, we're still good. No. No it's okay. We're still good. We're still good Stay the course stay the course Hi, Burkle Hi, Dennis hi Ed Hi, John hi, Taryn. I can't see you guys because Dennis is in the way Hmm so yeah, okay, we destroy everything back. We're back. I didn't destroy everything only the things you created No, it's funny cuz it's true so so they whoa whoa oh no no we might be okay. We might be okay come on, baby Pull together Yeah, whoo okay? Excellent keep working on this you you host the show that's fine. No. No I won't touch it again. I promise no it's it's This cable shouldn't be wrapped around the way this don't make that face Worrying me so much okay. It's supposed to go this way I Got it Fragile everything is awesome all right so basically we spent the day at free geek Volunteering well actually okay technically are people who I pay Which includes me are we volunteers yes because the company to be here the company is well that we're not paid by them Right the company is volunteering the company's time so the Linus Media Group company Volunteered the time of almost all of its employees except for Colton and Nick who the business team yeah the business team Yeah, they're just about money. Yeah, that's right No seriously though Nick was traveling for a family thing and Colton was actually preparing this show yeah So so he kind of had important work to do so everyone's here. We worked on dismantling computers We worked on refurbishing computers. We worked on tearing down old stuff. That's not worth Dismantling or refurbishing we didn't get to work on some cool things just honestly because I think we didn't have enough time But there was like testing ram wiping hard drives with D band and then installing free open source stuff on them right now They're doing Ubuntu hopefully mint later. It's a laptop area was pretty crazy. This is a very very cool operation They've got going on here. I think it's fantastic We've actually got not one but two videos coming up So we're gonna have one where we show you guys around free geek and the point of that video is not necessarily Free geek Vancouver free geek Vancouver free geek Vancouver. It's not it's not that it's more just to talk about these kinds of operations How cool they are and point out that you may have something similar in your area? And it's uh it might be worth it It might straight up be like from a dollars and cents like Nick and Colton would understand it perspective It might be worth spending some time volunteering because this is something cool We didn't know about free geek they will actually give anyone who volunteers here for I think 20 24 hours or 48 hours 24 hours you get either a computer which is estimated value somewhere around $50 Yeah, or a $50 store credit and after you volunteer for I think 12 hours They give like another 12 hours Is it another 12 hours or just 12 hours in general? I don't know you get a 40% discount in the store other than on laptops Which is a 20% discount and that makes the already really cheap stuff that they sell actually ridiculously dirty Yeah, can I help you can I help you Taryn? Hi? Not disruptive at all That boy ain't right anyways Yeah so like it's actually pretty sick and one thing that I observed too is if I Could have came here when I was a kid if I knew that these places existed I would have been able to accelerate the learning Yeah of building computers and yes, it goes into a computer and how to diagnose things so much the experience that you guys Sorry guys, there's the gains not really that high the issue is that those guys are that loud so yeah anyway What was I gonna say right? Yeah, I think that even locate even for me. I learned Multiple things today. I learned more than one new thing about computers for me Particularly the most enlightening part was working on some really old stuff So I tore apart an old quad socket Intel Pentium Pro computer That was so cool. It had like 14 expansion slots. It was like if you guys have seen a mountain mods case Like those double wide super big tower cases it came in one of those Yeah, but like obviously all steel and beige and old and all that kind of stuff like I was like I was tearing this thing apart I was going holy crap modular power supplies. Um, not a new thing at all Those computers had these ginormous like we're talking a 120 millimeter fan on the back Doesn't even take up the whole back of the power supply ginormous redundant modular power supplies and I was like what So cool and this thing is so old that it had a Y2K Compliancy sticker on the back. So what my favorite one was the other one that said Y2K not a risk or like Yeah, but like you keep on why to keep vulnerable system So guys we have two videos coming up the first one The video is just a tour of free geek and what they do here and all the different stations They have should be really fun. And then the second one is just kind of like a moving vlog style Look at what our crew did while we were volunteering here today being hopefully mostly helpful with the exception of Taron and Should just be kind of kind of a fun little video. So make sure you don't miss it I'm not sure I think they're winding down. I think they're heading out pretty quick anyway, but All right, let's move on. Shall we move on to our next WAN show topic here? Yes Yes, this is this is kind of this is kind of a this is a thing California wants to ban encrypted smartphones. The idea isn't like oh Terrorism we need to ban the encryptions because the terrorists will encrypt the did the ideas for the bombs No, it's apparently for a human trafficking thing Did you like my yes I did I quite liked it. It was apparently for human trafficking. So the idea is that a A smartphone manufacturer that is trying to sell stuff in California would be able to Would have to set in the ability for a device to be decrypted and unlocked by its manufacturer or by its operating system provider so iOS or Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know what there's a lot of the encryption argument is not as Simple and not as cut and dried as a lot of people would make it out to be With that said I cannot get behind Legislative movements that would make encryption illegal I do understand the argument that you know the the the purchase and sale of human people something an industry That is very much alive and well you know as much as as much as we'd all love to pretend that you know the The issue with black slavery in the United States was the end of it It was not by any stretch of the imagination the end. It was a travesty then it's a travesty now And it's absolutely disgusting in any in any shape or form And to look good and to look at it and go, you know Well the fact that there's these encrypted Communications and these encrypted devices that these people are utilizing to circumvent the law and keep these people from from regaining their freedom is disgusting but Again, I really don't think the answer is to outlaw encryption and to put and to put the decryption of said device Decryption of said device in the hands of the manufacturer where quite frankly, what is the regulation? Yeah, basically not I like the the idea of sacrificing liberty for other things is maybe something That's a little bit too advanced for our show and we probably shouldn't even be talking about that. But Yeah, I don't know So Those comments were gonna come out. Yeah. Okay. I said I said black the same way that I will say white or brown Because it's short. It's a single syllable. It has nothing to do with political correctness or non-political correctness It's out of convenience Samsung has taken to has been taken to court by a Dutch consumer watchdog over failing to update its phones There's an official statement from Samsung. It's pretty long. So give me a sec at Samsung We understand that our success depends on customer or consumers trust in us and the products and services that we provide That is why we have made a number of commitments in recent months to better inform Consumers about the status of security issues and the measures we are taking to address those issues data security is a top priority And we work hard every day to ensure that the devices we sell and the information contained on those devices is safeguarded So so what I don't think they want anything They really long blurb. They said nothing. They committed nothing All they said is data security is a top priority and we work hard every day We try really hard Hopefully that's good enough Well, it isn't Throwing that out there and also for that whole statistic that we covered on the WAN show not that long ago Yeah, wow Android phones suck for security. Yep. They're like actually the bomb like like they explode in your face No, they don't they don't explode in your face, but but they figuratively explode in your pants Which is a different explosion. That's I don't think twitch actually allows security problems. They have security problems. So basically all I have to really say about this article is Good on you. I would like to see every consumer watchdog organization run around and start Nailing these cell phone companies for not providing updates for their phones because quite frankly Ethan on flagship class devices we're talking devices with a bomb cost somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 to 40 percent of the price that the consumer is actually paying for it where they're literally Bringing in hundreds of dollars of profit per device even on flagship devices It is rare to see an Android smartphone maker support it for longer than about a year If you are a year to two years if you're lucky past the EOL date and then that's a huge problem because you know What if you don't buy it immediately on launch? Yeah, that's that's like It's so Yes Because a lot of the time it actually the support seems to have more to do with the launch date Yeah, that is a very good point then to do with the EOL date Whereas the way and I know I always pointed Apple as and they're not a perfect shining example. In fact, I watched a great just Fantastic video on YouTube by all I wish one thing What's like if you guys are just gonna hang around and chat, please do it over there. It's probably too loud for the twitch chat I know. Oh, they're working. Okay. Yeah, that's fine. Everyone was I wasn't addressing everyone Um, so I watched this great video by a guy who works in like in an Apple repair like Apple products repair shop He's got this microscope and he kind of he kind of walks you through It's about an hour-long video, but I sat and watched damn You're the whole thing which is very unusual for me and he walks you through this you watch like 30% of my oculus video Yeah, I will finish it. Um, I don't watch much YouTube. Sorry Anyway, he does a motherboard repair on a MacBook while spending the entire time talking about the way that Apple has made and continues To make difficult the lives of the people who repair and refurbish their products. I've seen this intentionally Yeah, it was excellent. Yeah, and he basically goes well They could provide me with this fantastic diagram that tells me exactly what all these components are and what they do and how I can Repair them but they don't they give it to the Apple Store Who uses it to do nothing who uses it to just plug into a console and say replace Whereas he's like I could take that information and I could solder a new wire over your precious Black clean PCB that you don't want a bunch of wires running around on and I could fix that computer and he brought up some really Interesting points things that I didn't realize like for example and you can pardon my ignorance here, please I didn't know that the iPhone 5s if you replace the phone button are the phone button the home button Well, it is kind of the only button on my phone. If you replace the home button on it touch ID goes away. I Did not know that the home button is one of the most common things that needs to be repaired on an iPhone the bloody things break all the time and it's like only Apple if they repair your home button Can keep touch ID functionality working I was like really why? Because the encryption is on a chip in the phone There is no reason there is Nothing that is anything to do with that button that would make it so you couldn't do that and so okay Let's hope so coming back to my point. The point is not that Apple is some kind of shining example for you know Being pro-consumer and consumer rights and there's a lot of arguments being made that they intentionally slow down their phones Yeah, something. I don't necessarily actually buy because something a lot of people don't really consider In all of that is that there's a lot more to faster phones than just a faster processor and more ram There's the fact that storage mobile storage has improved by leaps and bounds And baby drives in their new phones. That's right by leaps and bounds over the last few generations So what do you want Apple to just not build in any new functionality that takes advantage of the new phones? No, I don't necessarily expect that But compared to Apple and the Android ecosystem is just a complete mess with some phones coming out With a given Android operating system that might not even be the most recent one and then never ever Even being updated so So I've got a couple of uh yeah, I've got a couple of more notes on this So it's the Consumentenbond whatever okay, that's I'm sure that's a mint and yeah I'm sure that's a Dutch word that I just butchered just now So it's a nonprofit that looks after the interests of consumers in the Netherlands So they're taking Samsung to court over failure to provide updates in a timely manner They reached out to Samsung on December the 7th In an absence of a proper response they issued injunctive relief proceedings against Samsung So they say that 82% of Samsung phones it checked were not updated within two years of their introduction Yeah, not surprising Samsung's a huge part of that Android ecosystem and probably a huge part of that percentage that we found of unsecured phones A lot of people that I talk to feel like they're not even aware of the fact that Samsung is a huge part of that A lot of people that I talk to think that it's an Apple or a Galaxy actually When we were at CES a lot of people were saying Apple or Samsung yeah Do you have a Samsung? When I was at a booth for a battery that would heat up I don't even know if it ended up being one of our top 5 Was it like a hand warmer? Yeah, the guy was like do you have a Samsung? I was like no He's like oh you have a Samsung and I'm like no it's a Sony But it's a Samsung No It's not like oh you're an idiot because you don't realize that an Android phone doesn't have to be a Samsung The reality of it is that's probably all that most normal consumers have really seen Samsung owns a huge chunk of the Android market So yeah basically what the Dutch watchdog is asking is for Samsung to support every device it sells for 2 years Regardless of how old it is Very very interesting So that would mean they would have to support starting at the EOL date rather than the introduction date And it would mean that they can't just provide like 1 or 2 updates on a flagship If you guys are going to release a model then you better actually support it Something that could be a big problem for Samsung because we've seen this They take that, you know, throw the pot of spaghetti at the wall Oh my god, yeah And figure out which noodles stick and kind of support those ones approach And that's not going to fly if you have to actually properly support your devices You're going to have to actually, oh I don't know, figure out what people want and build that instead of just building Do you remember that weird phone that they did for old people? The Galaxy, oh the Galaxy, it was like Didn't it have the custom operating system and stuff? No it was huge and it was like right around the time they introduced easy mode Yeah, easy mode And it had like a 720p screen, I can't remember what it was Custom program I should have said Yeah I'm sure that Twitch chat is telling me all about it right now But it was just like hilarious and they were like yeah it's like the smartphone for people who don't see very well I'm like really? How many of those are you going to sell? Like did you actually survey senior citizens and ask them if they want this? Because I'm willing to bet they don't I'm willing to bet they don't want it Don't improve your glasses, buy a special smartphone The Galaxy Mega, that's the one, thank you to, I can't read your name, it's in lime green and it's on a white background Galaxy Mega is redonk It's like a small tablet Barely a small tablet, I think it was like a 6.5 inch device or something ridiculous like that Alright This next one is interesting So the Apple to widow, and this isn't exactly how they said it at all But this is the title I guess Apple to widow, want your dead husband's password? Get a court order A Canadian widow is locked in a battle with Apple over her dead husband's password for their iPad She stated saying where is it, she used to play games on it or something And now she can't, which sounds a little weird because she would have probably needed the password for that Well yes and no, I mean like again We take for granted as tech savvy people that you want to figure out how to do things yourself Not everyone's like that Some people would just be like hey hubby unlock this for me, I'm going to do a thing Or like who knows, like maybe, I'm just guessing But I'm coming up with plausible reasons why she might not care Maybe she's not that mobile, maybe he brought it to her every time Right? Like there's a lot of reasons why, you know, people take care of each other That's fair You know, my wife doesn't really know how to turn on our entertainment system It's really complicated She says it's complicated, which is of course a load of nonsense Okay, it doesn't necessarily work all the time That is a valid observation about our entertainment setup It's funny because the more... It's probably a valid observation about like everything that they have at their house But that's a perfect example, you've got to remember for some people Unlocking an iPad is about as foreign as firing up a receiver and selecting the right input for the freaking VU Is it a technological system? Well Linus has probably changed it seven times in the last four months So who knows what's going on right now Am I wrong? Look at the servers I knew he was heading for the server I knew he was going to go after the server, you know what? That's it, I quit Nope, you did the last show yourself I'm not really too sure about this, personally I think there's some issues there Like some people will stay together even if their relationship isn't good And there could be private information on that iPad So I don't actually really support the idea of just randomly getting access to all of the things For the person that used to be your spouse That's actually kind of a little odd in my opinion Even in Apple's terms and services, Apple T&Cs, it says Agree that your account is non-transferable and that any rights to your Apple ID or content within your account terminate upon your death Upon receiving a copy of your death certificate, your account may be terminated and all content within your account deleted I actually kind of agree with that Because while yes, she might have been immobile and her husband may have brought her her things And let her play the games on the tablet There could also be another story And I know I probably sound like an asshole for saying that Yup, I agree with that, I came back at just the right moment You're an asshole Wow I'm back though You're so rude I'm back, maybe I... Is that one of NEC's professional LCDs? Like an older one? Look how thick it is Great, sorry, I'll let you finish your story All of these are like that Maybe it's just really old Okay, go ahead I was mostly done What I was saying was in Apple's T&Cs, if you die, your account is closed Your account isn't given to someone, it is closed And I actually totally agree with that While there is the possibility where it's like, oh honey, here, play games on the iPad I'm sorry that you are having a not perfect day It could also be something nefarious Apple is doing super great when one of them passes And that's true But the other thing that I kind of object to here is that with Apple devices, if they're locked to an Apple ID, you can't even reset it So we're talking about a physical device that gets bricked by... That's a little annoying Yeah, we're talking a physical device that is effectively bricked because someone passes away Apple should help them reset it I would think they should be able to do that All the data should be wiped and Apple should help them reset it She should be able to play the games on the iPad Apple believes in privacy and encryption, totally get that, totally respect that But that doesn't mean that hardware should just be rendered worthless by someone passing away So, yeah They're in a freaking storage room, basically Yeah, yeah, pretty much No, it's really cool, we have videos coming about what exactly it is we're doing here And they are going to be worthwhile Speaking of Apple You know what I was actually going to say, we should burn through our topics And then I was going to say we should take turns going and finding cool stuff to talk about in the warehouse here So that was what I thought of while I was standing over there Cool So let's move right along Thank you, I had a thought that was good I felt pretty good Wow, we have a lot of topics this week Good job, Colton Colton's actually gotten to the point where he's doing a surprisingly good job of the WAN Show document Well, no, it's surprising given how crappy they were before Which I guess doesn't make what I said any nicer I love the failed, not even failed at all insults They were really bad and you have made them not as bad No, they're really good now That's why I said, it's surprising How do you go from really terrible to quite excellent? 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Because it's relative ease If you're a wicked numbers person The relative ease with which you could whip through this stuff in a spreadsheet So it's relatively easier Yes Not actually easier It's how much, yeah, it doesn't make it easier if you are not a numbers person Being a numbers person will still help you use FreshBooks It's how much of an improvement you can expect to gain Yeah, I got that It's just it's not fundamentally easy I read it the first time, I was like But no No, no, yeah, no, I get it I get where they're going with that Yeah I thought that was your comment No, no, no, that's FreshBooks' pitch So our topic people posted in the forum so far DAB, SJR, AresKrieger, Zmule, and we've got WKDPaul And we've got Mr. Troll Mr. Troll Mr. Troll No, wait, no, we have Zmule again So apparently Google paid Apple one billion One billion US dollars to keep their search bar on the iPhone Holy actual crap Hopefully Google can pay Firefox more So that Firefox stops telling me that if everyone reading this donated $3 They wouldn't need to ask anymore Well, no, that deal's dead, right? Firefox is with Yahoo now for a long time No, I know Oh, yeah, okay But you just wish that hadn't been a thing I think Yahoo isn't paying them as much money Probably because everyone's manually switching their search back to Google anyways So like the aggressiveness of Firefox asking for money is pretty intense Right I've actually donated a relatively okay amount of money to Firefox And they're still like Actually, that's probably why they're doing that That's the reason because as soon as I donated to Wikipedia, they harassed me all the time Same thing with BC Children's Hospital Like I get letters all the time I'm like Canadian Red Cross actually, they were really making me mad Because I actually have a monthly donation to them Monthly, every month And all of a sudden they were calling me all the time They were like, yo, can you re-up? Can you double up? I'm like, come on You know, why don't you go keep doing what you were doing Going door to door Someone came to my door and was like, yo, do you want to donate to the Canadian Red Cross? I'm like, sure So go do more of that! Find new donors! Don't harass the people who are already like Yeah, I think what you're doing is great Because you're going to lose my support I think there's a nice way to do that kind of stuff Anyway, so Apple apparently received a billion from Google in 2014 to keep the search bar According to the transcript of the court proceedings from Oracle Corp's lawsuit against Google So Google has an agreement that gives Apple a percentage of revenue that Google generates through Apple devices At one time that share was apparently 34% Although we don't know like Who got the 34? Yeah Hmm The attorney for Google tried to get the judge to strike the mention from the record Which did not work Obviously John is here, is that just crazy? What's that? If someone had an agreement where there was like We're sharing 34% of this profit thing And someone was like, can you just strike that from the agreement in court? That's just never going to work, right? Not unless there's some sort of exceptional circumstance or maybe evidence that like that was just slipped in without the other party's knowledge Which was just something crazy Yeah, okay, John assures us that would have been very unlikely He's our resident, used to know a thing or two about law before he became a Canadian Disclaimer not licensed to practice law in California Yeah, disclaimer not licensed to practice law in Canada Or California That's or California, oh really? Well, we were talking about California Oh, we were talking about California? Who cares? Okay, you do, I know because that's I'm sad now You're sad We love you, John Love you too, boss Intel is rebuilding itself on three pillars And the PC is apparently not one of them So their three pillars are like internet of things, server and memory? So yeah, so their CEO Brian Krasanich said that the PC business provides a foundation of intellectual property and a source of cash flow But it is not the sole driver of our growth I actually read this article Okay, this is one where Quilton's notes could have been a little bit better Because it was something along the lines of the PC is Here, I'm gonna get the da Okay, so already those three businesses generated nearly 40% of Intel's revenue And 60% of their operating profits Very, very interesting So that's how Intel continues to grow lately in spite of the ever-shrinking demand for desktop PCs Now, I suspect there's some chicken and egg going on here Where if Intel was building dramatically faster computers that enabled dramatically different user experiences There might be more demand for them But Intel also is not in control of the pace of the rest of the industry So Intel can build as many 8-core CPUs as it wants But if no one is building software that actually leverages all those threads Then they're basically just more core sitting in your computer consuming power and doing pretty much not a whole lot of anything Which is a thing Which I totally get AMD's news is They lost a lot of money, but like not as much But actually more depending on how you want to compare it Yeah Yay AMD It is just kind of a miracle to me that they still exist at this point Enabling today, inspiring tomorrow Losing today Losing money today Losing money tomorrow Hopefully not losing money anymore three days after tomorrow That's the goal So you guys can check out the numbers if you want As usual, we're gonna have all that stuff linked But the long and the short of it is that On a revenue of just shy of 4 billion They were down 28% year over year revenue wise Primarily due to lower client processor sales They had a gross margin of 27% Down 6 percentage points year over year And due to lower unit volumes This is due to lower unit volumes and product mix And they had a net loss of 660 million on that 4 billion dollars of revenue Which is Yeah Okay Yep Hopefully their processors and new GPUs do well in the future Yep I think that we're all hoping for their upcoming GPUs to absolutely rock the house That would be really good And for their Zen processors to rock even more houses even harder Yeah I agree with that statement too because of exactly what Intel just did So that article was posted by Zmule The next one we have up here also Zmule Zmule is like on fire this week I'm gonna post all the articles because my name is Zmule Yeah that's what he sounds like Alright you hit this one He types that fast He's like Okay so this is actually not that interesting Sorry Zmule It is in rapid fire And Colton And Colton It is in rapid fire on the thing Oculus is founder so Palmer Lucky is being sued for stuff Apparently he worked for some company in 2011 Who had him produce some stuff And then now maybe that stuff is part of an Oculus or maybe it's not We don't know All we know at all is that a judge said like Okay this can become something in court Lucky calls the lawsuit a brazen attempt to secure for themselves a stake in Oculus VR's recent multi-billion dollar acquisition by Facebook So basically doesn't seem to think a whole lot of it Yup We've got another rapid fire topic Zmule again Zmule Zmule I am Zmule I carry all Znews things I am Zmule So here the original article is from the JDEC website These are the presumably super cool at a party engineers who develop memory standards Actually to be completely honest if I was at a party and there was a JDEC engineer I would definitely probably hang out with them the entire time So I was actually okay I'm gonna tangent Just putting that out there And I know you've done that kind of stuff before too Yup I was at an OCZ party where like some famous person like some rapper or something I can't remember like actually a big deal was performing And I managed to find a guy who worked on the original SATA specification For then he like worked at Marvell like during those years He like talked my ear off about SATA the entire time We like found a quiet corner And I was just like so like tell me about this and tell me about that And like you know what makes it better than PETA how do we make it faster how do we keep making it faster What's the future of drive interfaces and like whatever Taryn it was cool So yes as much as I Literally is wearing a shirt that says talk nerdy to me Yeah And tries to mock you with some guy talking nerdy to you Yeah What a fool So anyway JDEC publishes GDDR5X graphics memory standard So they're targeting data rates in the 10 to 14 gigabit per second range Which would be about a 2X increase over GDDR5 Now to be clear this is not a replacement for HBM or HBM2 Which is what you're gonna see on high end graphics cards like AMD's current Fiji cards But rather a replacement for the mid-range cards where you can't necessarily afford the additional cost of cutting edge HBM memory Nor would you necessarily see a benefit from it Because it's no secret that modern high end cards are doing just fine with GDDR5 So it usually takes a few generations for a mid-range or a low end card to catch up to the performance of an old high end card So in theory we'd be good with slower memory for quite some time Well this is a way to address that Yeah Um alright what else we got here I think I'm just gonna kind of Do you wanna do the thing? Yeah yeah let's do it Why don't you go first while I do a little mini news thing here So this was supposed to by that Norwegian guy The original article here is WCCF Tech And let me just pull up my screen capture here The GTX 970 now the most popular graphics card on the Steam Survey Which I actually had a number of people in the forum thread about this say was not interesting and not remarkable That is incredibly interesting and incredibly remarkable I don't remember the last time Actually no I think probably the last time we would have seen a current gen card Like high end card as a top card on the Steam Survey would have been in the 8800 GT days And what you guys need to also realize is the 8800 GT was I think it was like It was $299 or something $249 I think it launched Then it got jacked up to $299 and then for like super clock or whatever it was up to like $349 Don't quote me on the exact numbers But it was a very very reasonable price And delivered pretty much the same performance as the 8800 GTX that had come before it So that was an extremely disruptive card The GTX 970 not that disruptive compared to Nvidia's own line up So the fact that it has sold so incredibly well No go ahead I'm gonna run and get one The fact that it has sold so incredibly well over time really points to what a success Nvidia has been In creating and marketing that card Alright well you talk about what you found I'm gonna go find something cool If you guys want to find cool things then So I don't even know like what entirely this is It has little arm things which seem to be able to operate So this one is like a clampy arm The other one is also a clampy arm but it has like you could put something in it and it would sit there I don't know how it operates like the arm can move It can reach out and grab things and do whatever But realistically like there's a huge thing in the back there's DCN I'm assuming the head turns internally within the dome The dome doesn't turn itself But it's a tape player So right now there is currently a Depeche Mode tape Construction time again by Depeche Mode So it's a tape player and a robot I don't know It's not for sale It's up in the store it's not for sale This is what was actually right beside it so I'm gonna take this away You're up Okay so I found two things First of all this awesome Coca-Cola phone That's not really that big of a deal Putting replacement plates on phones was a thing No no what I'm into right here is this Toshiba T1200 Yes my friends Mechanical keyboard Yeah that's right LCD display with brightness knob wheel right here Latching fold down display LCD contrast wheel over here on the left as well as A B and DISS and reset whatever the devil all that is We've got our 12 volt input our power on and off switch as well as There's a hard drive on and off switch which I think is fantastic The battery release button here it's got a printer port External floppy disk drive port Composite port Keypad port RGB I think Did they used to call it VGA? Oh look at that That 3.5 inch floppy drive with 3.5 inch expansion bay below it This thing is about as freaking vintage as it gets made by the Toshiba Corporation And I think John's got something John sub in here man go for it Tell them all about what you found So I just found what appears to be Okay can you guys see me? Great I think this is the original Sound Blaster It has oh hi Luke Luke is back So it has a joystick port Okay it has an old school joystick port It has some sort of dial It has some sort of like weird dial thing sticking out I guess that's for volume And something called the talking parrot This mischievous parrot mimics your speech Talks back, passes outrageous remark and screams when you tickle it So it kind of sounds like the predecessor to BonziBuddy Except it wouldn't install like horrible malware on your system that you can't get rid of Yeah system requirements dos 2.0 or higher Coming to an EGA based graphic system near you So yeah You need 512 kilobytes of RAM Whoa hold on there Luke Make sure you have at least 512 kilobytes of RAM Who has 512 kilobytes of RAM? I don't I heard that's all you'll ever need No Bill Gates said it was like 64 He never said that Oh okay okay then Today I learned They have giant stacks I only brought part of the giant stacks I don't even know if these are written yet Probably not But they have giant stacks of all the Linux you could need They have Ubuntu and I believe Mint You can come here and get a free disk And then one thing that I like is going to be kind of hard to show But I'll get it up there Giant bin of CPUs Yeah you can see it Show them the Pentium Pro And they can't hear you remember because the mic's over here Check out that Pentium Pro Yeah boy Yeah boy Okay okay I've got two I cheated I brought two things Oh you brought two things too Okay mine right here This my friends is the 3D mouse 3D mouse It's made by A4 Tech since 1987 Feel the noiseless comfort It's actually got like a thing through the package So you can spin the scroll wheel Check this out DPI 520 which is 30% faster than 400 DPI Wow Wow amazing Enjoy quiet scrolling without distracting noises 3D mouse Wow also Does it go in the Z direction and also X and Y? No it does not So it doesn't do Z It just does X and Y How is it a 3D mouse? Here show them the close up of the package The package is so amazing I don't know if this is in focus Yeah it's fine Shift it down a little bit it's got a reflection The other way There you go Okay check that out DPI 520 is 30% faster than 400 DPI my friends Yes my friends wow indeed Okay check this out This is Okay you're my Vanna White right now I think This is higher There you go This is before the AOL CD Became a thing okay That is an AOL 3.5 inch floppy diskette Yes my friends that is a great value right there I can let that go for as little as $14.99.95 Yes that can be done in 7 easy payments of $200 Going once going twice gone my sanity is gone Thank you thank you for that Do you find something John? Get in there alright go go go I have the right to feed you now So this is another fantastic thing I found You guys remember this? It's one of those old slot style Pentium 2s Thank you Taryn And if I recall correctly I think this is the only The only ever the only slot style consumer CPU that Intel ever produced And hey line this correct me if I'm wrong on this But wasn't this basically just a Pentium 3 without some like instruction set extension I don't remember actually that is you're going back so far than before my time The performance isn't too far off from a Pentium 3 But it comes in this really cool slot that has a shiny thing on it And they just don't make them like that anymore unfortunately the Pentium 2 Can you sit down Taryn? I can't sit down Okay I'm talking for Luke Can they see it on the screen? Yeah you hold it higher up Yeah right there that's a whole bunch of RAM 2GB minimum capacity ECC memory You're just going to have to talk louder I can't talk I'll do it Alright so that is a bucket of 2GB sticks of DDR2 ECC RAM Server RAM right there a lot of those look like fully buffered DIMMs If they have those heat sinks on them yes my friends That is a very very small fraction of the random RAM that they have around here They got everything check this out New sealed Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition Brand new sealed Adobe Photoshop CS4 What else you got over there? Oh that is a doozy of a keyboard This my friends Commodore 64 keyboard It's got the green sticker on it so that means it works I mean look at this this has keys that run stop Are you kidding me? Control port 1 control port 2 This is pre my days like my family had a Commodore But that was when I was at an age where I would not remember such a thing I mean Commodore they counted like Microsoft F1 F3 F5 F7 It's like Xbox Xbox 360 Xbox one No one knows how to count in the computer industry it's absolutely amazing So I think we're going to get kicked out of here pretty soon So we're not going to carry on too much longer But if Luke and John find one more thing each we can show you guys some other cool relics here But don't miss oh wow oh wow Taryn brought yeah okay well this is worth waiting around for guys This am I holding it up correctly? Can they hear you? Yeah yeah it's good it's good they can see it Okay so this is this was actually donated as is except for probably the free geek sticker that's sitting in there It's FedEx shipping boxes that someone made it rotated around yep That someone made into a computer case that's still holding together It was properly water cooled at one point it's been slightly taken apart so it's not exactly functional this moment But it could work if you just kind of hook some things up and probably replace the fluid So yeah people can get creative I don't know That's pretty crazy so someone ran this as their computer is it a fire hazard maybe to a certain degree But it worked it worked It did work this is another one of those like actually not for sale things And if Taryn dropped it it would be very bad I was just going to go on the other side Okay so thank you guys very much all eighty six hundred of you for tuning into the WAN show Broadcast to you live here at free geek Thank you very much for tuning in thanks to free geek for allowing us to be here today Thanks to all of my staff for going through a very unorthodox workday And spending the time here to help these guys you know refurb computers and help out people who otherwise can't afford to get one And I would like to announce actually at this time that in addition to us just kind of being here Chilling with these guys and spending some time some labor time We're also committed to make a donation to help them to keep their operation going You know keep the lights on businesses even if they're not for profit businesses have real expenses that they actually legitimately have to pay I don't remember how much money I said do you? I said a thousand dollars We have not done it yet We won't be doing it yet we're waiting for some accounting stuff on their side that they actually need to sort out But we're also committing a thousand dollar donation to free geek because we think what they're doing is absolutely fantastic So again thanks to them for allowing us to be here thanks to you guys for tuning in and we will see you again next week Same bat time same bat channel totally different bat place I think we're speaking of bats we're batting about you know 20 200 batting 200 I remember how that works we're batting 200 for actually broadcasting the WAN show together from the normal location That means 20% For the last five shows we've only done 500 is like perfect 500 is even 50 50 Yeah so basically they moved the decimal over two places for no apparent reason Yeah that's really weird Yeah so that's weird Go baseball Why'd you do that? America Alright thanks for tuning in guys No after party today unfortunately we have to pack up and go No and I will be doing a thing but I'm like No after party today we have to pack up and go so you go ahead and say it And I will be doing a thing after party thing on my Twitch channel but not for like a while Because we're in Vancouver Really far away from home Yeah Yay Don't wait for it Oh it's the desktop background Oh that's easy That is easy Oh whoops I should turn off the show