 This might look like a knockoff Alienware, well, because it is, but according to specs on the box, like AMD processor, this might just be able to beat them at their own game. But will it? I honestly don't know. But I do know it's time to segue to our sponsor, GlassWire. Are you lagging out while gaming? Use GlassWire and see what apps are wasting your bandwidth and causing your games to lag. Get 25% off with offer code Linus at the link below. What we have here today is the electronics Prometheus XVI. And it's a very powerful little laptop, like eight core AMD processor, RTX 3080, the 16 gig version. It's quite a beast. And it's $1,300 less than this Alienware right here. Now, judging by the box, I actually thought it was more of a striking comparison to the Alienware. In person, it's more gray than white, like I thought it was here. Let's just open it up here. So in here, we have some dbrand skins. Now, electronics says that this is so that you can, you know, choose if you want to have just the complete stealth look, or if you want to have their logo on the back. Well, I think it's almost smarter than that. It's the kind of thing where like, when you're asking for someone to build you a laptop, like your electronics or even, you know, Dell or Lenovo, you aren't building that laptop yourself. You're going to a bunch of suppliers and being like, in the case of this one, let's say Cherry is making the keyboard and someone else like maybe Pixar is making this track pad and so on and so forth. But it's really smart to just call up dbrand so that they can put your logo on something like this. This costs what, like 20 bucks. Instead of having to order like, I don't know, 500, 100,000 laptops, just so you can have your logo on here. That's one of the things that was funny. I was talking to the CEO and he said like, he really likes this laptop. The insides are based off of, I believe it's an HP and then the factory reskins it. And it came out kind of looking like an Alienware. Electronics actually aren't super stoked about that. They want it to be more individual to them, but you need to just make so many laptops for it to be your own. So instead they just have exclusive rights to this chassis in the US. In person, it does look less like the Alienware than I was expecting though. It's kind of like the Legion and the Alienware just kind of like got it on and this is what popped out. Me and Brandon together think we got it started in the right spot. We're gonna find out here. dbrand's getting laptops is just so smart. It's such an easy way to make it look cool. Which one do you take Brandon? Little black with the logo or RGB? RGB all day. RGB all day, hell yeah. Now when you get this laptop, the first thing you wanna do of course, like install your drivers, but then you want to install the Ryzen controller software. It's like kind of janky. Like look at the splash screen Brandon. Beautiful. And like the whole program's kind of janky. This is not a first party program. But at the same time, everything that you need to play around with your computer is right here. So like CPU temperature limit, boom. Now it's 85 degrees. Turn that off, wanna change the TDP? It's right there. All of the stuff that you would really want to do is just available for you. Now it may not look the best. Like this is a very simple little program. But compared to Alienware's command center, which like it's fancy. It looks really good, but it doesn't work the best. All right, enough screwing around though. Got the dad hat, lttstore.com, and we are ready to do some testing. Cinebench, let's just go straight for it. Now, if I'm honest, I don't think that this is as well cooled as the Alienware or the Lenovo. But it does have an AMD processor, which means that there is a good chance that it's going to win this. Huh, well, this isn't good. So Lenovo got a 5362, Alienware got 5394. That's like within margin of error. Makes sense they have the exact same CPU. But the electronics has 4906. That's not ideal. I actually thought it would win right now. But let's see if we can make it win, one second. Okay, so with a score of 5394 to beat, we're hopping into the Ryzen controller. And we're just gonna do it the dirty way at first. Just every, oh, and set the temperature limit to 105 degrees, I don't know about that. Let's go for 99. But besides that one, we're just gonna take all the sliders all the way to the right and just see what happens. With our super easy overclock, we got 5132, which is a decent improvement, 200 points. But we still need another 200 in order to beat this guy. And I don't know if we're gonna get it. Yeah, we ran it again with those additional sliders all the way over to the right. And the score is about the same, 5100. So we're not able to beat either of these guys. Now we did do a bit more research while it was running. And it looks like this is about as fast as the 5900HX gets. So I think that really speaks more so to how well Alienware and Lenovo and their vapor chamber coolers have cooled these i7 chips as opposed to this thing being slow. I'm kind of surprised though. I was not expecting for Intel's 10 nanometer to be able to beat AMD. So although it wasn't quite the Cinebench result I was hoping for, it is still impressive because we didn't hit 90 degrees and that's very promising for the cooling system in games. What I am impressed with though is just the overall build quality of this thing. So the chassis is stamped aluminum and it just, it feels really good. I have to say, it's not the same as like the magnesium chassis of the Alienware. This thing is insanely well-built. But it's very much in a similar league as the Lenovo. Now as for the keyboard, I am personally a fan. So I feel like that it has a tiny bit more travel than the Legion has. This is in many ways a good keyboard but I find it's not like the key stability just isn't quite perfect and there isn't enough travel. This one right here is pretty good. This one's maybe like an A minus, we could call this one A. The Alienware has the cherry switches that are just the best but that's kind of in its own league. One thing I was planning on complaining about is the track pad. Like you can look at it, it's, the size is fine. It's basically the same as the Legion and the Alienware actually tiny bit bigger than the Alienware. And I just don't really have any complaints about it. It's the kind of track pad that you can just use every day and be generally happy about it. But enough fooling around. It's a well-built machine but no one cares if it doesn't game well. It's a gaming laptop so let's do some games. Before we get into the hard gaming benchmarking, I wanna just find out like the subjective how does it feel to game on this laptop. We're here in Valheim. First thing, this screen is so good. Said it before but Quad HD on laptops is just, it's the sweet spot, especially 16 by 10. It's kind of weird in games. Like in games I feel like a lot of them are made for a much wider screen as opposed to taller. But you get used to it pretty fast and it is quite nice. Extremely responsive. No problems at all. We're now in Forza Horizon 4 and this is probably our best display benchmark that we have. It's also a pretty good benchmark benchmark. We're getting like 120 FPS. You're not gonna be complaining about that in this game. Now this really shows you how much just color and brightness you have. Like you don't really get to see it cause you're watching on whatever monitor you have. But to my eyeballs, I would quite enjoy just not doing work for the rest of the day and playing Forza on this thing. Now we can get into the actual hardcore game testing with this guy right here. So we're connecting to an external display for two reasons. First of all, all the testing for the Alienware X17 was done at 4K and this is not a 4K panel. Also inside of this, there is a muck switch which can give you something like a five to 10% performance uplift. But unfortunately it isn't yet enabled in the bios of this thing. So, you know, connected to an external display, you get that performance uplift and it's more representative of what you can expect when you actually have hands on with this thing and it's been updated. Based off of my numbers, I don't think this is gonna be as fast as the Alienware or the Lenovo. Hot damn. So I was expecting this to be something like 90 FPS but we ended up getting 103. So that's two more than the Lenovo Legion. And I honestly don't know how it did it. I'm very impressed you little guy. Okay, yeah, we ran it again and it did drop a bit. So we now have 96 FPS. And the reason is just simply that our CPU, it's overheating. Now we do still have it in everything to the right, go insane mode. So I don't really blame it. But I do think that this is a much more reasonable kind of mid nineties, maybe 90 FPS is what you're actually gonna be getting. Wonder if having this thing not on a desk pad would help improve performance. It does seem like we have intakes on the bottom that might be slightly choked by something like this. Now we're testing in Rise of the Tomb Raider. Anything above about 45 is a win. That's what the M17 did. Anything above 66, which is what the X17 did is an ultra win. I'm guessing we'll be somewhere in the middle there. Damn, again, I'm quite impressed. So 57 FPS, that's one less than the Lenovo Legion, which is well within our margin of error of these tests. Final benchmark is dirt. We're looking for 100 FPS. We're currently getting 90. So not a bad start. Now the fans, they're a bit loud in this thing, if I'm honest. They're not super annoying. Like it doesn't have a whole lot of high pitched whine, but it certainly doesn't compare to like this guy, like the X17 is very quiet while gaming, like for a gaming laptop, of course. But you're not paying Alienware money. So dirt was a tiny bit of a disappointment. 92 FPS instead of 100 I was hoping for. But at the same time, going into this, these are the results that I was expecting before it kind of blew me away with the other ones. Let's take it apart and see how they're doing such a good job. Disassembly, I believe is pretty easy. So you just got a couple of screws. The ones in the front are shorter than the ones in the back. If you put a long boy in the front, you're gonna have a real bad time. But fortunately, a lot of the problems that you will run into have already been covered by them. So they hired Bob of All Trades to go and just make disassembly videos. So you know things like these little fan grills are kind of easy to screw up. And now I'm going to note what's on the go and not break them. Exactly like this, I'm slightly concerned I'm gonna break a couple of clips. So I'm going to rewatch that video. I was afraid that if I just pulled on this, yeah, I was gonna break it. Now I can go in here. That didn't feel great, but she's all good. Awesome. Thank you, Bob. That is quite the cooling system, I do have to say. It's clearly well-designed. So we have one heat pipe that runs under here, sneaky like to get your VRMs cooled on what is presumably the GPU over here. We have these massive radiators on the back and the sides. The sides. One thing I was a bit curious about was that a lot of electronics laptops, you know they come with liquid metal as an option, whereas Sky does not. Turns out there's a good reason that they tested it and there weren't massive performance gains by you know, putting liquid metal on the CPU and GPU. What they did find though, is that if you upgrade the thermal pads on the VRM to K5 Pro paste you are able to push them harder and see a real performance gain. So they're considering having that as an option. Although liquid metal, it's nice that they tested it and aren't going to just charge you extra for something that won't have a performance benefit. As for upgradability, we've got our RAM right here. Oh yes. So this makes so much sense. The RAM that we have here, 8GB 1RX8. This is the faster old RAM. So I did a video on this a little while ago where new higher density modules will give you less performance. This is almost definitely why I was surprised at the performance of this laptop and why it had the extra like 10% performance that I wasn't expecting it to have. It's because someone like electronics can go in, ask for these faster RAM modules and they can get them. Someone like Lenovo or Alienware aren't able to do that because they have to order such large quantities that they've probably run out of fast stuff by now. Yeah, super easy upgradability. Two Sodem slots, two SSD slots, got a wifi card. One thing that isn't so incredible is the battery. So we get 64 watt hours compared to the Legion's 80. Now they do make up for it by having an AMD CPU. It's just more efficient than the Intel variants but if they had the larger battery, they'd be able to beat instead of just match the battery life of their competitors. Well, although at the start of this video, I thought this was going to be a brutal Alienware knockoff. It turns out it's much closer to a Legion 7 knockoff and quite a good one at that. Now, if we take a look at the Legion that comes with the RTX 3080, you're looking at $2,759. Now this guy right here, if you get the 16 gigabyte 3080 version, you're looking at $2,500. So do you really want to go for electronics for $200 less and a smaller capacity SSD? I'm not entirely sure. But what is really compelling that there's an eight gigabyte RTX 3080 version of this guy right here for $2,300. And I think that makes a lot more sense. There's no eight gig version of the 3080 in this guy. And you probably just don't need 16 gigabytes of VRAM. You might as well just save yourself the $200. In which case, electronics is quite a compelling little buy. So yeah, overall, I'm pretty impressed with this guy. The cooling's good. The screen is great. Keyboard's good. I'm actually kind of surprised about that one. Only real complaint is I wish the battery was a little bit bigger. Good job, guys. I like it. The Drop Sennheiser HD 6XX headphones are one of Drop's all time best sellers with over 90,000 units sold. 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