 Okay guys, so I did say we were going to be five minutes late today and we were only five minutes late today. I'm pretty sure the audio is working. I hope the audio is working. If the audio is not working, I will actually cry. I will cry. We're going to check the Twitch chat to make sure the audio is working. Welcome everyone to the live Linus Tech Tips show. We are here for all of your enjoyment and of course our own enjoyment because Slick loves nothing more after he has spent the day filming with me than to... What? Yeah. I didn't say anything. Alright. It's flickering. Flicker on the screen. I don't know, our feed looks okay. It's flickering. Whatever. Okay, so we haven't had a chance to eat dinner yet tonight. I hope you guys forgive us for being a little bit slow getting into the show here because it has been actually kind of a rough day. I had a really cool meeting with one of the most important people I've ever had a chance to meet this morning. I had to be at work early. I had to wear a dress shirt which just about destroyed... No, dress pants. I had to wear shiny shoes. You wore shoes? I wore shoes. I did not wear sandals to work today. The funny thing too is I even wore my sandals when AMD sent a group of six people. Including a VP, I wore sandals. I wore my sandals. I was like, guys, I dressed up for you. I wore a dress shirt today. They were like, haha. I wore a dress shirt. They were like, haha. What would cause that, guys? I wore a dress shirt. Just a sec, just a sec. What's the problem? I can't remember. Oh yeah, we're watching it. Just a sec, just a sec. Oh, for crying out loud. Jeez. Okay, we're good now, right guys? Let's get that Twitch chat going again, because you guys are fast to help us get that fixed. All right, yeah, broccolon, yeah! Okay, so the kind of things that we should have sort of done by now, but okay, to give you guys some idea, what do you think the speed I averaged on the way back here from Richmond was? No cops watching, right? I don't even know. Like, just ridiculous. So we made it all the way from MCIX headquarters in Richmond. Sports mode. In like 29 minutes to my house, which is, trust me, not a good thing. Anyway, so right. Sorry. Slick always has dinner. He ate separately that time. So guys, don't worry about it. Right, so my meeting today was with like the most important person ever, who is like a global director of marketing for Samsung SSDs or something like that. Like just crazy, crazy stuff. So I wore shiny shoes, I had like a shirt and like pants and a belt, and like, I did my hair today, but you can't really tell anymore because it's just a total mess. But yeah, so that was really exciting. Spent like two and a half hours in that meeting, just marketing strategies and stuff. For those of you watching the live stream who don't know, I'm a product manager at NCIX, so that's like my real job. I don't remember where I was going with this. You were just talking about- Oh yeah, it's been a long day. I had to go in early. Because when someone like that, and they're making time, like he flew from Korea. Right. Right. So he's like making time to like get on a plane from Korea and come here and come to our office and talk to me. So it's like, if I won't go in like half an hour or an hour early to work, then that's like the rudest thing ever. So I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no problem. And then, so I was at work at sort of 9.30 ish today, which means that by the time we're done with live stream, it'll have been like a 13 hour work day, which is sort of sweet. We filmed a really cool episode today though. Maybe Slick can tell you about it while I try and take a couple of bites of food. We built a computer in the FTO3 mini and that's a pretty sick case actually. So most Silverstone cases are pretty epic, but for a small case, this computer is really cool. We fit a 670 in it and for its size, if you like actually go and look at a picture of it, for its size, that's ridiculously impressive. So that was a really fun build. What else did we get in there? What else did we get in there? We did a lot of unboxings. No, I mean in the case. In the case. What's the name of that? We put the little Asus ITX Deluxe board, but I don't remember its actual name. P8D77i Deluxe I think. I just iDeluxe? Okay, yeah. The Asus P8D77i Deluxe. 3570K, although we could have used 3770K. We just had a 3570K. SSD, of course, Crucial M4. Load temps you guys were like, what were they like? For the CPU, it was around 28. No, no, idle. Idle was 28. Yeah, oh, load temps. Load temps I think were around 50 degrees. Yeah. And then on the GPU, it was like 70 degrees, like totally normal temps. One fan in the system, because we put a water cooler in there. Well, there was the air penetrator and then there was the fan that came with the water cooler. You didn't put the fan with? No, you're not supposed to. Oh, okay. There's no room for it. Okay. You use the air penetrator at the bottom of the case, and then even though it doesn't quite align with the radiator, it's very directed airflow. So it goes right through the radiator anyway. Like the case is designed for that. I thought it just was like basically stack stands. Who's asking if Rosewill is a good case manufacturer on the Twitch chat? Like, come on guys. Rosewill, how is Rosewill a manufacturer of anything? Is Rosewill a good case manufacturer? And why is the, why is the Twitter all messed up? I don't know what's going on here. I'll have to fix that later. Yeah, Rosewill doesn't make anything. Rosewill is new eggs, like no name brand. So it's like whatever OEM stuff, and then they put Rosewill on it. So there you go. What else did we film today? Like I said, a lot of unboxings. For NCI expectives, I don't really remember. Was it just the FTO3? I think that was it. I think we were gonna try and do H100 versus H100i versus. We started that, that's why we unboxed the H80i. And then. I'm telling, the Thermalright. And the, yeah, right, the Thermalright Silver Arrow, what was it called, Extreme? I think the, yeah, Thermalright Silver Arrow Extreme, which looks amazing. The fan's like a little weird, but it looks, it looks amazing. What was the color scheme of those fans? Red and. It was like red borderline pink, and then for the like casing of the fan, and then like bright fluorescent orange for the blades. A little bit, a little bit out there. A little bit extreme, I guess. Definitely extreme. Definitely extreme. Definitely extreme. And then I worked on a Gauntlet Node episode, but we weren't done that. Had some problems with wireless. Not with the Gauntlet's wireless. No, excuse me, no. 7H or V2, that's not even a fair. Someone says I know far too little about the business, it seems. I'm not sure what business he's talking about. But it's been my entire job for like five years, so I think I know something. Mm-hmm. Okay. My hand's quite a bit better. I still can't close it. That's all I can do for trying to close my hand. But it works now, so that's good. Okay, so why don't we do a couple Twitter questions? We've got some pretty good discussion topics for tonight. We're just like really hungry, so. Sorry. All right, let's head over to Twitter. Let's see if this is gonna work. That gonna work? That's not even the right, why did we have it? Oh, I remember. Okay. Remove. It was for the videos. Yeah, because the last time we used this, we were doing like a totally, totally, totally different thing, and it was not Twitter. And there we go. So now we have Twitter, and you guys can enjoy that with us. And I, my phone is going bananas, like just absolutely bananas, because of all the tweets that are, that it is experiencing right now. There we go. All right, so question number one from Paul F. Could you beat up Slick? Do you think Slick could beat Asus' JJ in a straight up fist fight? I would like to hear Slick's take on this. I don't really, I've seen JJ like twice. I don't, I have no idea. Yeah, but come on, come on. No, think more in terms of like, does he have the mental toughness? Think like a fighter. Ha ha, I don't know him. I don't know JJ. I can't just say I'd be able to beat some guy if I don't even know him. I think he'd have the endurance. He would? I think he would have the endurance advantage, because you look at how long JJ can talk about the least interesting possible aspect of an Asus motherboard. Like I swear, like 45 minutes on like one bank control feature. I think you just have to keep hitting the guy. He'd be like, what was that fighter that would just let you hit him until you retired and then he'd knock you out? I don't, I can't remember. Can't remember his name, but like that guy, you think he's like that style of fighter? I think he's that style of fighter, because I think that like his enthusiasm level for like what he's doing, like he, okay. If he wasn't interested in the fight, I think he could take you, or I think you could take him. But if he was like passionate about like, like destroying you, I think he would just like, just, I think he'd tank it. Might take like an hour, or three. Yeah, like a three hour fight. Like if it was done in rounds, and there was like a time limit, I think you could get him. Okay, next, next Twitter question for the night. What are your thoughts on the hybrid fluid dynamic VGA coolers? Honestly, I don't think I've heard of those. Hybrid fluid dynamic VGA coolers? I haven't found any that I like. What are they? They're basically like. Talk at the camera though. Okay, I haven't seen one in a really long time, but if I remember correctly, they're kind of like H100, H80, that like, like close loop water cooler style, but it works for your VGA. Oh. You can see why I'm not. Oh yeah, those are dumb. Yeah. Yeah, those are really expensive, and they perform better than, obviously they perform better than an air cooler on a graphics card. I mean, the graphics card form factors, like PCI cards were never intended to be like double, triple wide, and have like coolers on them. It was never, never supposed. I'm just gonna turn my phone off, because the tweets are driving me absolutely crazy. There we go. Phone off. Because something. Right, because they were never designed to have coolers in that kind of a sort of space. Like coolers are supposed to blow fan air towards something, not like down at its surface, and then sort of toward the back of it. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't work that way. So, so yeah, they'd obviously be better, but you have a couple of drawbacks. So number one is that tubing wise, you have to have long tubing to get that cooler to somewhere in your case that makes sense, unless you have. And it's pretty much always going like, ugh, it's coming from the bottom of the graphics card. Yeah, so it'll be like a total mess that way. Then, I mean, personally, the graphics card isn't priority number one for me for water cooling, so then you don't have room to mount your CPU radiator, plus yeah, they're just, they're expensive. They don't have a wide compatibility. They only work with one card ever. Usually for the pricing that I've seen, I would much rather just do my own loop. Yes. That's what I've found. So I don't really see them applicable. That's why I've never really been interested and not really cared. Because in all situations, your own loop is awesome, but sometimes it's not worth the cost. Then if you're gonna spend the cost on something like that, you might as well just make your own. Which you're just gonna throw away when you're done with it. Yeah. When you can just buy a new block for a loop, and then there you go. Like if you get a new graphics card. All right. Moving along in our Twitter questions here. Let's see what else we got. Wilson asks, how do you pronounce Asus? All right. So. Asus. Yeah, Asus. Asus, as long as it's Sus. Sus like Dr. Sus, not like Sus or not like Pegasus. So a lot of people have made the argument to me on Twitter because I posted a video made by Asus where they, it's like a really cute little thing where like two girls go up to like two guys at a bar and they're like, hey, do you wanna see our asses? We love asses, something like that. And then, do you wanna see them? And the guys are like, yeah. And they pull out notebooks and they're Asus notebooks. And the guys are like, oh, you mean Asus. And the girls are like, oh, yeah, yeah. So it's funny because it's Asus' subtle way of telling people, stop pronouncing the name of our company wrong. Just stop. Stop doing it. And I had a bunch of people still arguing with me on Twitter. No, no, it's Asus, Pegasus. And because that's what it shortened from because the company used to be called Pegasus. And it's funny, almost all of those guys had like really cheese ball names to start with. You know what DFI used to stand for? I just always think of them as DFI. Okay, well, at the end it was designed for innovation. Now it's, before that it was Diamond Flower International. It's like, who calls their computer component company Diamond Flower? Makes no sense. LG, life's good. You know what that used to be, right? Yeah, you told me it was something. Yeah, Lucky Gold Star. Yeah. It's like, this is my Lucky Gold Star washer and dryer. Smile, then you get like the shine on the teeth. It's like, oh no. So yeah, so Asus changed to something that sort of didn't sound like a unicorn. What a Pegasus is. All right, Linus and Slick, weird question. What are stylists made out of? BC, I can't use any heat touch items. I use a head pointer to use gadgets. I think he means like. Oh, what are stylists made out of? Because I can't use any heat touch items. I use a head pointer to use gadgets. Okay, well let's go with the part of that question that I think I can answer. Most stylists are made out of plastic. There must be something different though, because if you just press a piece of plastic against its stylus reactive screen, it doesn't go off. Okay, they must be made out of something else. You know what? I don't know. Great question. Sorry we can't help you. Sorry, yeah. Kelvin asks, Linus, what do you think about WD Red drives? Been reading some reviews and some people have DOA. For those of you who don't know what that means, it means dead on arrival. Also, can you review Western Digital's four terabyte black hard drive? My thoughts on WD Red drives is that we got four of them and none of them were DOA. Also, DOAs don't necessarily indicate anything about the quality of a product. They can just indicate that someone was unlucky. I mean, look at it this way. If you make 100,000 of something and 100 of them die, you got 100 dead drives out there. That seems like a lot, but in terms of the actual failure rate, that would be like.1%. Yeah, that's pretty good. Right? So even if 1,000 of them died, that would be a 1% RMA rate. But that means, because remember, satisfied customers whose hard drive is in their computer just working. They're not gonna say anything, most likely. Would you go on a forum and talk about how your hard drive works? I've gone on forums to talk about how certain parts of works and how they've worked really well, but not a hard drive. Not a hard drive. Definitely not a hard drive. Okay, because if you did that, I'd have to smack you. Yeah. Yeah, okay, yeah. It's like, guys, because you know, it's funny. Every once in a while, like on the NCIX forum or like Hardware Connects forum or whatever else, someone comes in and they're like, never buy Seagate. I bought three Seagate hard drives and two of them died. And I don't think I've ever seen anyone come on a forum and say, buy Seagate hard drives. I have six and they're all alive. No, definitely not. So guys, you gotta take every bit of information you get with a grain of salt. It just doesn't work that way. If someone's like, my UVGA video card died after two years and my warranty was only one year, they screwed me. It's like, no, that's bad luck. It's really bad luck. I mean, if you'd registered your card, you'd have gotten an extra one year warranty anyway, but it's bad luck. You got a bad card. It doesn't mean UVGA cards are terrible. In fact, pretty much everyone's graphics cards are, especially reference cards, pretty much the same quality anyway. So yeah, I mean, I get a kick out of it when people are like, why are HIS cards more expensive? They're like, oh, they're better quality. And I'm like, okay. Not the reference cards. They're pretty much the same for everybody. Although some cards, lightning, classified, like ones where they're really overbuilding the card, those ones are better. Hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm. What else we got? Someone's asking me to post on Twitter that I'm streaming at the moment, but I can't imagine that it didn't go to Twitter when my YouTube video went live. So I don't know if that's live yet. Yeah, it looks like that's live. There's a few people that have looked at it and almost, oh, that's funny. Look at this, people don't even like me anymore. This guy's like, I almost tuned out when you said Slick wouldn't be on because I was teasing them in the teaser. And I said Slick wasn't gonna be there because he was going to get our food. And yeah, apparently people don't even like me anymore. Whatever you guys, I don't have to take this. In how many years do you recommend upgrading hardware? Why don't you field this one? I, that's really subjective. Depends what hardware you have. Depends what hardware we're talking about. I'm gonna go get some food, we can do more things. If it's a mechanical, no, I'm good actually. If it's a mechanical keyboard, Never? Never, if you're happy with it, never. If it's, What about if it has Cheeto stains on it? If it has Cheeto stains on it, you might wanna clean it. It's a mechanical keyboard, so you can take all the keycaps off. That shouldn't really be a problem. Maybe stop eating so many Cheetos at your computer. Yeah, it really depends what you have, what device it is, when you're not satisfied anymore. Is your computer slow? Are you lagging in games? Are you below a certain acceptable threshold of FPS? Are you out of storage? You might wanna buy another hard drive. Or when something big and new comes along, like SSDs are getting well below $1 per gig right now, especially on Black Friday sales. So if you don't have an SSD yet, now might be a good time to buy that. But as for like, graphics cards or CPUs, it really depends what you have to start with. Good job, Slick. You wanna make another question for us? Well, that could lead us into one of our discussion topics. You said, That's fine, I don't need to eat it anyway. Okay, fine, I'll find a new one. How much RAM do you really need for gaming? Not that much. Good question, okay. Well, how much is not that much? Come on, man. You can buy an 8G kit for really, really cheap. Just buy that and you'll be fine. I saw them, NCIX had 8G kits for $19.99. Yeah, like ridiculously cheap. Just go with that, you'll be fine for gaming. Tell us more about the forum you're working on. Sure, actually, let's kick off our first discussion topic then, fine. Okay, so that'll be the forum. Oh wait, do you wanna do the other one first? The one that you said that was a good lead into. No, that's fine. We can do the other one first, it's okay. No, I won't go with his question. You said you wanted to do the other one. Well, we pronounced this guy's name wrong last time. You're fired. That's unfortunate. For what it's worth, I warned you. I told him I was gonna fire him on the live stream tonight. You did. We pronounced this guy's name wrong before. I can't remember, I'm trying to remember the tweet. He sent me one. It's Greek or something. So Vag93 is back. Yes, but it's not Vag. It'll always be Vag to me. So, you know what, guys? I wanna involve you in this part of the discussion. You got a pen and paper, this is getting serious. No, no, I'm not writing anything down. I'm actually writing down because I do those, here, no, I need to write down the time. Nine, 27, forum. Well, yeah, I wrote something down, but it's not because I'm writing down what they're saying. So what I'm writing down is the time codes that I put under the video on YouTube. So instead of actually going through and watching the video because, quite frankly, he's very boring and I have a hard time watching a show that has him on it. Also, ugly, I don't know what you people say. I don't know, it just makes it a little bit easier for me to put those in at the end. So, first of all, the choice of V Bulletin. So I had quite a few people on Twitter ask me why V Bulletin because it costs 250 bucks. It is not free, like PHBV, and there's some other options as well. So answer number, okay, okay, no, what I want you guys filling in on the Twitch chat and Twitter right now is what you guys want because there's a million hardware forums, like literally, probably a million hardware forums. What do you guys think would set apart a Linus Tech Tips forum? And I'd love to take your feedback right now, and maybe I will even write some of it down. No, no, I'll write some of it down. But we're both listening, we're both here. And between me and Slick, 99% of the work on the forum and the conceptualization is going to be done. Tell us what you want. So why V Bulletin? V Bulletin was chosen because I'm familiar with it, so I don't have to learn, which is great, because I have to learn enough new things to do my job and it's tiresome. So I don't have to learn. Wow, that's a really big factor. Number two is with V Bulletin 5, they have a pretty cool content management system that's completely integrated into the forum. So I want, and you know, reviews, for example, unboxings. I wanna have a couple little pictures, a little short article. I wanna have a way to drive traffic to this site where people can really engage in discussion beyond the YouTube comments. YouTube comments are fine and dandy, but let's face it, for every sort of, on YouTube in general, for every well-intentioned, coherent individual, there's maybe 10 morons. And I think that my videos buck that trend. I think for every 10 coherent individuals, there's maybe one moron, but that doesn't change the fact that there's still that guy ruining it for everyone. And YouTube is the ultimate mainstream platform where everyone watches videos on YouTube. Absolutely everyone. So I wanna create a forum where we can weed out the one moron and we can just have really good discussions about tech. I also want it to be a noob-friendly forum. I never ever wanna see a link to let me Google that for you. Not once. If I see a link to let me Google that for you, I will ban you. Done. Because I want this to be somewhere where you can actually ask a question and get an answer and have people be respectful to each other. So that's one problem that I have with a lot of the old guard forums. So one that I particularly have taken issue with over the years is a super hardcore enthusiast forum based out of the states where basically anyone who goes there just gets treated like crap. Especially particular sections where people are not helpful. They tell people to go read the stickies or go do this. And I mean, yeah, people should read stickies. But you can also be polite about explaining why stickies are there and why you should read them and all that kind of stuff. You could point them to the correct sticky, for example. So there's ways to be polite about it. So, I don't know, Slick, what do you think we can contribute that someone else doesn't already? Because he's a huge OCN guy. So what could we do that OCN doesn't do, for example? OCN has its own community. And I think from the livestream, you guys talking in the livestream, you guys talking in the comments, you guys talking on our Twitters, you guys commenting on each other's posts on Twitter, that happens a lot. Sometimes I don't even have to answer a question because there's a couple guys that seem to go to my Twitter a lot and just answer questions for me, which is kind of cool. Yeah, you want them to wipe your butt for you too? What? It's like, look at this guy. He's all like, oh yeah, I don't even have to reply to my own Twitter anymore. No, it's cool because they, like, my viewer base knows what they're talking about. You're so lazy, what do I even pay you for? I think it would be cool to have somewhere for everyone to come together and talk about things amongst our community. So I think that's pretty cool. I think it would be cool for everyone to show their own build logs. And like, we should definitely have a build log section and you can be like, oh, like if you're new, you can be like, oh, I got to this part of my build, but I'm having problems with this. And then instead of just being, it being like, build logs where it's just epic and baller, that's awesome. But I think the build log could also be a helpful section. Right. You could be like, look at this, this is weird. What am I doing? Why is it wrong? How can I fix my cable management? How can I fix my cable management? Is there any suggestions for how I have this laid out? Is this Waterloop good? How is this going? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It could be more of a helpful space. I think that would be good. I mean, other things I think that we can do with a forum that are really difficult to do with Twitter and Facebook is we can take feedback on more complicated things a lot more easily. Yeah. Definitely. Oh my goodness. I get so many questions on Twitter that like, if I answered it, I would have to spam you like nine times because 140 characters is just not enough. So many of the times it's really frustrating. I get questions all the time where I'm just like, this is not like, this is not the right medium for this question. I can't do this properly right now. Twitter doesn't have adequate ways. Like for example, I try to answer the vast majority of my tweets. Yeah. And Twitter doesn't have good tools to show you. Like Hootsuite is a piece of garbage. Don't even get me started on Hootsuite. What a horrible piece of software considering the company's worth like millions and millions now. How are they worth millions of dollars? They make one piece of software for one social network that, oh, anyway, anyway. So there's no way to track whether you've replied to something or not. Yeah. If you're looking at it earlier in the conversation. And I can't find it again. Yes, there's no way to find stuff. The search just doesn't work at all. Like you might as well key in Google, tweet about something and like try to remember something about it because that's the best chance you have of finding that tweet. So a forum would be a way for me to actually prioritize and keep track of messages. I mean, YouTube private messages are another example of this where I love to reply to YouTube private messages but honestly it's just stupid and it's a waste of my time because of a couple things. At least 30% of people on YouTube have the private message block enabled. So unless you're on their contact list, you can't private message them. So they'll message me and then I'll type out a reply for 10 minutes and then I'll click send and they have it blocked. And I'm like, you know what? That's a waste of my time. It just is. And then the other thing is it doesn't archive the previous parts of the conversation below your message. I get so many private messages on YouTube, I might have to go back five pages to find the original message you sent me and then figure out what I replied and then find your new message just to figure out what you're even talking about. Because people will be like, so they'll say something like, oh Linus I'm shopping for a monitor, what's your suggestion? And I'll send back this. And then they'll say, oh well what about this? Meanwhile I have no idea what I suggested or what they originally asked me or what it's for and it's just not helpful. So a forum would be a great thing for that. Any other sort of off the top of your head before we get to some tweets? No, I like the build log idea a lot. Of course everyone has build logs but I want it to be more helpful based. And I know a lot of people have helpful build logs but I don't know, I think that would be cool. And just bringing the community together. One place. Yeah, one place instead of having all, of course these other different mediums will keep flowing but having a more permanent housing for everything would be really cool. And just so you guys know, I don't have any intention at this time to put advertising on the forum. So just if you care about that. It's not something that I'll be trying to monetize in any way. Oh wow, 203 tweets. Awesome. In-depth tutorials. That too, yeah. Like a lot of people ask for the mineral oil guide, mineral oil cooling guide and I still don't think we'll do that. But we could have a section on the forum where people could ask more specific questions instead of just the general how do I build a mineral oil computer. Because yeah, I'm just not even gonna get into it. But if you have like more specific questions or have any questions at all, you could ask them there and then I could like take my time and actually flush out answers that make sense. You know what? Here's something I wanna do a little bit differently from other guys as well. A lot of forums have level up systems and they'll have rankings for their users. On the Linus Tech Tips forum, rather than it being based on how many posts or being based on sort of anything. Honestly guys, I think that every level up in terms of your user status will be, none of them will be, it won't be a paid level up. You can't pay for a level up. You might be able to pay for a custom avatar or something, something, something. It does cost money to run a forum. But I think every level up will actually be assigned by me or Slick. And I don't know if I've talked to you about this at all yet. Nope. But what I wanna do is I wanna have rankings for people based on, really, I mean we'll both be monitoring the forum very regularly. So I wanna have rankings that are based on are you contributing? How accurate is your advice? I don't want someone on our forum to have a tag that says top contributor when that's just based on replying plus one or whatever else. I want it to be based on oh, I saw that guy make a really good reply to someone. I go and check his post history. I make sure all the advice he's giving is accurate and awesome and all that kind of stuff. And then I can put like a Linus approved advice sealed next to his post. We should have individual ones. And yes. Linus approved, Slick approved, Diesel approved. Yeah, so we can do multiple tiers of rankings so that we can find a way to really differentiate, no matter how many posts you've made or haven't made, really differentiate the people who we see as top contributors right from the very start. So you come in, you make 10 posts and they're awesome. I would love to give you a better ranking even though you haven't made a lot of posts, you haven't been a member for a long time. So that's another way where I wanna be really friendly to new members, especially guys who are willing to be helpful. We should have that, but I think there might also be room for like seals, like those could be seals. I don't know. I think we should get viewer input from this too, but we could have like seals like. No, like the Linus seal of excellence or like the Slick seal of excellence or whatever. I still wanna start the League of Linus. The League of Linus. Yeah, LOL. Yeah. LOL. I would have already taken, but. Whatever man. All right. Thank you for your commitment. I love your videos and Slick. Thank you. Is Slick ever gonna have his own YouTube channel? Heaven forbid. That guy's so ugly. So ugly I have to cover him up in the live stream. Look at this guy. Slick, Linus seems to make fun of you a lot. Have you ever considered pimp slapping him? It happens, but rarely. I'll be doing an unboxing of that microphone soon. Asus for sure. Yeah, you know what? Here's the thing about subreddit. Subreddit will never have direct control over. We'll never be able to label our top contributors. We'll never be able to like, no. You get like, you get to be a mod of it and whatever. Okay, why am I driving traffic to their website? No, I know, I'm just saying, I'm just saying. Okay. Yeah. I cruise around, I'm not gonna give out my username, but I cruise around and build a PC and keyboards and a bunch of other tech-based subreddits. That's pretty much all the subreddits that I follow are tech-based subreddits. But I cruise around and I post. Again, I'm not gonna say my name, but yeah. Say my name, say my name. No one is around you. I've never heard of Avex here. My round choices are Kingston, Corsair, oh no, Mushkin, G-Skilled. Yeah. Never heard of Avex here, sorry. Okay. Hmm. Yeah, that's probably a graphics card upgrade that'll help you the most. No one is talking, are you guys serious? Aw, Nick's missing the livestream because he's on 4G. Minus plus four in profit. No, we're not actually planning to profit from the forum, but thank you. I think he means profit as in like, this is a good idea, not necessarily profit in financial ways. Oh, I get it, okay. Nice team liquid sweatshirt, Slick. Thanks. Okay. If they're asking what is RAM, just send those links to Wikipedia. Yeah, don't, that. Well, no one asks what RAM is though. Okay, so colors, color schemes. Use neutral colors on the background so text is easy to read. Okay. That's actually, those are all, that's all good input, I'll look into that. Michael wants a test of knowledge to join the forum. Michael, you are automatically banned. I think that was the point of making it noob friendly, is that there isn't a test of knowledge. There's no test, we want everyone to be welcome at the Linus Tech Tips Forum, except people who are sort of, what's it called? Elitist. Yeah. Acknowledging someone who knows a lot isn't a bad idea, but just, I think it's more trashing on people that we're trying to stay away from. You have to add a user rating system yet for sure. No, we're not automatically banning anyone who requests a build with no input at all, but what we will have is a sticky saying what information we do need, and then we can refer them to that. Yeah, we're definitely gonna skin it. I don't know how much work we're gonna be able to put into the skin, because like I said, I'm not planning to make it ad monetized, so we're not gonna have a lot of money to spend on like graphic design, and I don't think slick is very good. I am probably ranking within the worst artists that have ever been born onto this planet, and I am probably gonna be the one, and we are, one of us will probably be the ones that make the skin, so. No, Diesel can help. Actually. Diesel can help. Yeah, Diesel can help. I'll try and find a template, and hopefully Diesel can help, but in the early, early build, which I'm hopefully gonna be doing this weekend. Really? Hopefully. Oh, well there you go, that is what I pay him for. It's not as bad as I thought. Hopefully doing this weekend. I don't entirely know if it'll go live, but it'll be running on my computer in the very early build, and once it's probably the first version that goes live, will probably not look insanely pretty, but we'll work on it. Okay, well Malvin thinks VBulletin's just fine. I should devote a forum just to stalking you. Absolutely not. Building a PC versus NCIX building one, or Hack and Dodge versus a Mac Pro. Build a Hack and Tosh, don't like buy a Mac. Just make sure the hardware is compatible. As for building a PC versus having NCIX do it, it doesn't matter. If you're lazy, then you can have NCIX build it. The additional benefit is they'll do a one year warranty on the system itself. It's honestly not that expensive. I've got a buddy that every computer that he gets made, like he definitely knows how to build computers, but every computer that he gets, he gets it built by NCIX, because he's just way too lazy to build it himself. Michael, get the H100i, that one's newer. Okay, so we're not actually seeing that much feedback about the forum. Let's go back up to the top. Let's see if some of these 121 new interactions. Also, if we have a forum, I can post the documentation from my benchmarking. Oh yeah, that'd be kind of neat. Yeah, so stuff that doesn't make it into the videos, the actual spreadsheet, so people can actually see it, stuff like that. So people can download it and manipulate it themselves and whatnot, so you don't just have to see a video version of it. So that'd be kind of cool. That was a good point, Becca. I didn't see the guy's name, but someone said that. Jason asks, when we plan on launching, and obviously soon. Okay, so I think we've spent enough time on this topic. We can go back and have a look at some of these tweets after. You know what, have a look at some of your topic suggestions for tonight. Let's do some more just general, why don't we give the Twitch chat some love? Let's see what they wanna know. These guys go so fast that I can never... Wow, that is a good suggestion. See, let someone make a forum skin and make a contest out of it. I mean, the thing I don't like about contests sometimes is just because... Someone always gets hurt. Someone's feelings always get hurt no matter what. Someone's feelings are always hurt. It's like, if someone makes something for you, no matter what it is, if you don't like it for whatever reason, say even if it's incompatible, or if there's some weird reason that isn't necessarily that you don't like it, but you can't use it for some reason, it'll always hurt that person. So making a contest, we only get to use one. It's not like the Corsair keyboard video where we're like, yeah, we're gonna give away five keyboards except we're gonna give away seven keyboards and 35 versions of Assassin's Creed because we're ridiculous. I don't know, why is this coming here? Why would this not be coming here? Not that it's not amazing. I dropped my T-virus though, so I'm super not thrilled about that. Is there a thing that's not marked? I don't know, let's check. So I had some, nope, looks like it's okay. So I had someone ask about the status of my personal build, so here it is. As you can plainly see, there is no status update, so here's my T-virus. Here, I'll put the T-virus down. Here's the rig. Oh! So basically, I've actually un-progressed since last time I posted about it. So you can see my 590 is covered in drywall dust because it was in the, yeah, that's really not good. Like I have no idea how I'm gonna clean it now. My CPU socket is now empty because I had to borrow the CPU for something. And then my, and then two of my RAM sticks are gone because one of these, one of my Linus Edition RAM sticks that was in my wife's computer died. Oh, no way. Yeah, I'm super not thrilled. So now I have five sticks. Take the spanners off. You can't, trust me. The adhesive, you'd bend them before you'd get them off. And they're two pieces. There's an outside piece and an under piece. Like it's, trust me, it's not gonna work. Talk to me about that later, I'll help you. You can, oh, okay, okay. I guarantee you I can get it off. If you can. I have some other RAM I could put them on, but. So yeah, I took two of those out. Although I've got my RAID card wired up correctly now. And I've got a list in here of all the additional things that I still need to do in terms of cutting things and all that. So really, there's probably only about eight hours of work left in it, but I've spent so much time on upgrading the studio that I'm putting in the garage that I just haven't had any time to spend on this. So yeah, between that and the baby, it's just really, really tough. Wanna find us another Twitter question? Twitter question? Or a score on Twitch. Or a Twitch. Someone say something on Twitch. It's not even in real time. They're like 10 seconds, 15 seconds behind us. Oh. Oh my God, it's so quick. I actually can't read one of them. People say hi, Slick. Chicken nuggets. Hello. Potato. Starcraft 2. Cats. Cats. Slick, do you even lift? Show us your lifting. Here you go. Can't do it. Can't do it? The T-Virus, you can't lift this awesomeness? T-Virus is too heavy. Too heavy. It's the weight of how great it is. I know. I just know. I know. Okay. My first topic, which I don't think will take very long, glossy versus matte, and why it's important. Glossy versus matte. Okay, here we go. Hold on, let me write this down. Okay, we're ready. Okay, so I've been looking through Black Friday sales as long as, I mean, the same as I bet a lot of you have. I've been looking for a new monitor, and I just, there's a couple really good options, and a couple of the really good options are glossy, and I just can't do it. I can't bring myself to buy a glossy monitor. Okay, we should clarify. Glossy screen. Glossy bezel. Glossy bezel. Glossy bezel. Okay. I like matte screen too, because they don't get glare problems, but then I usually just blackout blind my room. Really? Yeah. And then you get your bag of Cheetos. I'm that guy. You're that guy. I'm that guy. I've blackout blinded most rooms that I've been in. Where I am right now, it's not as easy, but I have curtains. Seriously? I have curtains. Blackout blinds? Blackout blinds. Oh my goodness. My parents place is horrible, because there's a huge double sliding glass door behind me. So you blackout blinded. I did not blackout blind it. Okay. I blackout blind my room. I don't blackout blind like public areas. Like general linking areas? So when Slick moves out and has his own house. I will blackout blind everything. It will be a dungeon. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'll blackout blind where my computer is. But you'd put your computer in the basement if you had one. Yes. You'd be like, so. You have to have a nerd dungeon. You'd be one step above living in your mom's basement. I'd be living in my own basement. I definitely want like one of my dreams for when I move out is like the best, most epic nerd dungeon ever. Like I want arcade machines. Arcade machines? I want arcade machines. Do you have any idea how expensive those are? They're quite a bit, but you can make your own. Yeah, but I can tell you, you can't afford to make your own because I know how much I pay you. This is, I said this is what I'm about. This is later on in life. But yeah, you can make your own. So you're saying you're not gonna work for me forever? You can. I'll pay you more. Sweet. You can make your own fairly easily actually. Especially with a lot of the like ITX kind of hardware and software you can get now. Yeah, there's like main emulators and stuff, right? Yeah. That's not legit though. You have to have a legit pinball machine and like a legit like space emulators. Yeah, and like I would want those. I would really, really want those. But at the beginning, I would probably kind of just. No, that's just lame because if you settle, then you'll never upgrade it. I don't know. Because you'd have to like, you don't wanna find like the one that some dude has just had forever and doesn't take care of it and just like uses it as like something to put his beer on. Like you don't want that. You wanna go find the quality one. No, no, you find a black light, you go over it. If it's clean, it's okay. But like, I mean like dense, all that kind of stuff. Like I would want one that's still in good condition. You want one without dense? Well, brutal dense. Where are you gonna find that? Brutal dense. There's a. You're a brutal dense. There's a like museum kind of thing down in the States. Okay, so you're gonna steal from a museum. No, no. They help you find them. Look at this guy. I didn't say we're gonna steal from a museum. They help you find them. I mean if you do steal from a museum, steal priceless artifacts, don't steal arcade machines. But I got an arcade. You're thinking small here. I'd much rather arcade machine than a arcade machine. I'ma let you finish, but. Beyonce had the best album. How did we get here? And you're trash. How did we get here from Matt versus Glossy? You're singing is trash compared to Beyonce. I heard you sing. Of course, but I don't claim that I'm a good singer. How did we get here? I think we started with Glossy versus Matt. We did. Matt monitors, okay. So let me put it this way. I mean, I don't own a single Glossy monomere. Neither do I. My TV has a Glossy bezel, as you can see. However, my TV was a wedding present. And as we discussed before, there's no way to reject a wedding present due to the screen's glossy. I'm afraid I cannot accept this 52 inch television as my wedding present. It's just not gonna happen. Yeah. So yeah, pay attention when you're buying monitors, unless you just don't care. But I would highly suggest make sure that you get one with a Matt bezel. You know what, a lot of people, okay, because in theory you should never touch it. So why does it matter? But it collects dust more easily. It just generally looks dirty. And you're gonna move it from time to time. It's gonna happen. I think the biggest problem for me with glossy surfaces is that unlike paint, like paint, the glossier, the more durable. And the easier it is to clean. But it seems like with plastic, the glossier it is, the easier it is to scratch up and destroy. Yeah, yeah, it just looks like crap over time. Like you can see, what are they even called? Idea pads, Thinkbooks, the IBM laptop. Yeah. Like super general one. They're always, Thinkbooks something, yeah. They're always like matte everywhere. And even if they're super, super old, like my grandma has one that she's had for a really long time. She got it with Windows 95 originally. And it's like still a super old. I keep it because that is a com port so I can plug it into like old things and manage them. Anyways, it's all matte. Is that what you stole from the museum? No. We got her a new computer and then she didn't want that one so she's gonna get rid of it. So I took it so I could play with things with the com port. Anyways, it's matte everywhere and it still looks new except for the fact that it's like not that thick. But like all the plastics still look new because it's all matte and totally gray. Yeah. More like blacky gray, but yeah. You know what? A lot of people message me about, you know those cheapo Korean monitors on eBay? Yeah. So you can get 2560 by 1440, like IPS. I think they're usually A minus grade panels. LG IPS A minus grade panels. Lots of different monitors, lots of different IDs. For those of you who don't know, ID refers to industrial design. So it's like the design of the product, what it looks like. So I was looking at them yesterday. Lots of options. So they got ones with just DBI in. They've got ones where you can supposedly overclock the panel to faster than 60 Hertz. No, seriously. I believe it, I'm just surprised. They've got ones where they've got lots of different inputs. They've got like tons of different options. Not a single one of them has a matte bezel. Yeah, I was not surprised. I expected that and I'm not really that surprised. I don't know. Glossy just seems like the go-to and I have no idea. Cause it looks good in a store. It looks good on display. And there's a lot- It does not. It gets dusty instantly in a store the same way it does in a house. But they clean it every single night. Yeah, in theory. They're supposed to. You're a magical store. They're supposed to. Like. I'm just saying. But like, I don't know. Look good in pictures. Yeah. Look good in renders. Because with pictures it's impossible not to catch the lights. Right, exactly. Or like edited photos. But like, it's more of a sales pitchy kind of thing. Not a, I've used this kind of thing before that had a glossy surface and I hated it kind of thing. Here's what I want to know. Does it cost that much more to make a matte bezel? I don't know. When I first started seeing, like when glossy started being really popular, I was actually surprised because I assumed it cost more. It looks like it would cost more. I don't know. I have no idea. I know they have to put more protective crap on it in order to protect it from chipping. Yeah, because they always like seal it. Yeah, they always have to seal it. So there's probably tooling involved in something to do with that. Or like some kind of die to cut out the plastic. But I mean, someone has to put it on. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. I just, well it's probably a machine, but like. You're a machine. Ugh. Machine smash. And you're wearing green. That's Hulk, not machine. Well, I didn't say you were the Hulk. You said machine smash. Yeah. And Hulk doesn't say machine smash. No, he doesn't. But you're a machine, not Hulk. What's wrong with you? Now he thinks he's the Hulk. Why does the machine have to be green? A bunch of people on YouTube tell him he's hot and now he thinks he's the Hulk. That wasn't the point. Why does the machine have to be green? Your name isn't Bruce Banner. I wish I was Bruce Banner. Because awesome. Except that I'd be dead right now. I'm glad you're not. No, remember from Avengers, he's always angry and can control it. So you wouldn't be dead right now because you pay me. But you've never necessarily like Hulked before. So maybe this would be the first time and you wouldn't have control. Because you're still young. Right. Now he's younger than me, like a lot younger, even though he's much larger. 11 teen is not a number. On a previous stream, someone asked me how old I was and I said 11 teen and then someone thought I was actually 11 teen. Hold on, I have a question for the Twitch chat. We're going to Twitch chat right now. Twitch chat, Twitch chat. Tell me something like this. Tell me if there's anyone who actually prefers a glossy bezel. Come on guys. Tell me what we got. Who prefers a glossy bezel? Yes, I love physics. No, no, no, no, no. Yes, I saw one yes. I saw one I prefer glossy. People say largely that it doesn't matter. Twitch chat is just impossible to follow. How fast is this moving? Can't you put it on slow mode? Yeah, but people complain when I put it on slow mode. This is the problem with having 2000 people watching. All right, back to Twitter because Twitch chat is impossible. I love you guys, but it's impossible. Oh, this is interesting. Synapse 2.0 apparently got an update. So now when you lose the internet, it goes into offline mode so you can still use your key bindings. So what's your take on Synapse now? So Synapse is Razer software that allows you to use the cloud to back up all your preferences for your peripherals and stuff. That's, I'm okay with it now. Okay. That was my only real problem. There we go. If you fix my only real problem, that's okay. I'm surprised they overlooked it, but that seemed like it was fixed pretty quickly. Okay. So that's cool. I'm cool with that. I have not seen the MSI Mpower RAM, although I suspect it's RAM, just like all other RAM. Clinton says, I have a $5 capture card and a $90 one. They both look the crap. What do you suggest as an alternate composite video capture card, not HDMI? Oh. Honestly, I don't have many suggestions. You can adapt her off. Adapt her off of what? HDMI. Yeah, but there'll have to be some kind of adapt, like it'll have to be an active adapter. Well, the live game HD can adapt her off. Can it? We were doing DVI and DVI. We weren't doing HDMI and HDMI. No, no, but that's composite. That's an analog signal. Composite video capture card. Yeah, no, no, that won't work. The Blackmagic Intensity Pro does do composite. It's a $200 capture card, but it's a professional grade capture card. And it's really volatile. And it causes blue screens. It just like dies constantly. Well, no, if you have it in the right motherboard, it doesn't die constantly. Right. If anyone's wondering why we have the kinds of technical difficulties we do, it's like, aw. Nothing ever works. We get pre-release stuff, we get niche stuff. Beta drivers. Beta drivers. We're always running ridiculous things. Like state of the art stuff that like, thing A works, thing B works, but thing A plus B, just explosion. Cause usually if we have a video about it, if it's on release and we release the video on release, we probably filmed it a really long time ago when they were still like, you couldn't download the drivers for it. It came on like some unlabeled disc where someone wrote with a marker, like beta driver and then what number. Like it's usually pretty sketchy. I remember there was one motherboard where I was getting driver updates in my inbox, like every two days. Yeah. And I was like, what is the point of me even starting to test this platform if they're sending me new driver releases every two days that will completely invalidate, or not driver, BIOS releases, that will completely invalidate everything I already ran. Why would I even bother to start on this? And that happened all the way up till about three days from release. And I'm like, what about all the motherboards you've already built? Are they shipping with the BIOS that's not good enough? Not naming any names or anything, but just, you know, a lot of, you know, you guys asked me a lot of the time, Linus, why don't you ever recommend this brand or ever recommend this thing? Assume there's a reason. Let's just put it that way. Assume I know and assume there's a reason. Okay. People could submit their own reviews that could be voted up in a database. That would be kind of fun as a forum idea. That'd be cool because we can't see everything. Yeah. That's a good Sandy Bridge upgrade. You know what? Here, let's go into another topic. Why don't you get a topic for us? Okay. This actually builds into what you were just talking about. Brand favoritism. Ah, yes. People ask why I suggest ducky keyboards a lot. So, okay, this one's not even necessarily brand favoritism. I've had quite a few people go like, oh, I see you suggest a lot of keyboards on Twitter. Why are they all duckies? That's because 99% of the people that ask me for a keyboard on Twitter are asking for a keyboard with backlights, a mechanical keyboard with backlights. So if you don't want a very specific colored backlight, and it's mechanical, like if you want a blue backlight, there's three options. Yeah, I think that's pretty much it. If you want a white backlight, there's two options. And if you want any other color, there's one option. So- Oh, Cooler Master has some more now as well, actually. Cooler Master does? Yeah, I think they have some backlit ones. Quickfire, something, something. There's one in the mail to us, but it's shipped by USPS, so it'll get here when it does. Whenever it feels like it. Yes. Okay, well that's cool. But the reason why I suggest a lot of duckies is, in my opinion, it's like Duckie and Philco, or the legit top tier keyboard that's just completely, utterly badass. G710+. Really, really good. I don't have enough usage with it yet, personally, because I've typed on it for like three seconds. Okay. So really decide. Okay, I'll give you that. But Logitech, as far as actual software goes- Is legit as hell. Way better than probably anyone else. Logitech could blast up there, I believe in Logitech, because their peripherals are awesome. I'm gonna go get the G710+, but you can, okay, here, cover this tweet. Wait until they come up with one with blue switches. That's my whole thing. I know. I'm a blue switch guy, so for me to really, really like something that's gonna be blue switches. What am I doing for a tweet? No, no, that tweet that's up there right now, in my email? Okay, this tweet is everything that's wrong with PC enthusiasts. So I got a tweet from someone, I'm not gonna name any names, at minus tech, I really don't like Apple. If I get an iPad, iPhone, iPod, I would ever, then I would sell it directly, because it is the worst OS ever, with two R's and five exclamation marks. So let me put it this way, because I was making a point, I'm not a fan of anything, I'm not some kind of zealot. I have an iPhone, I chose the iPhone because it was the best choice at the time. Android was still in the gingerbread stage, which was rubbish, and the devices out there were not very good, so I got an iPhone 4. Android devices are way better now, with stuff like the Galaxy S3 being the sellingest phone ever. And so, yeah, ever, right? Yeah, I was just gonna bring up the Nexus 4 sold out. Oh yeah, Nexus 4 might come up on it, but I mean, S3's been out for so long. Oh yeah, I know, I'm just saying, like Android in general is selling hotcakes right now. So the point I was trying to make is that iPhone is a great phone. That's it, it's not open for debate, they've sold millions and millions and millions and millions and there's lots of happy, happy, happy, happy customers, just because it's not good for you. Because someone was saying that it's the worst OS ever. Really, worse than Windows ME. And now I'm just picking on Microsoft. Is it worse than Windows 95? Actually, 95 is okay. I'm not gonna pick on 95. Was it worse than, I mean, I personally liked Vista, but in your mind, was it worse than Vista? You see my point here, right? Yeah, we talked about this in the car and like, you guys all know, I fight for Android and I will continue to fight for Android, but if my grandpa asked for a phone, why would I suggest Android? That doesn't seem like a good idea. That seems like a terrible idea. I want something that he can grab it and it will be set up immediately and he won't have to do anything with it and he can just send emails and send tech messages and call people. So the point is that if it's not great for you, that doesn't mean necessarily. That doesn't mean it might not be great for someone else. That doesn't mean it sucks. Yeah, but my mom has a non-smart phone, Android, and I wish I would have just gotten her to get an iPhone because she constantly struggles with it because like very simple cues she doesn't really pick up on all the time, which like very simple to me, but iPhone seems a lot more intuitive for her usage scenario. So it depends what usage scenario being for. So it might be the worst OS ever to you, but it's not necessarily the worst OS ever to everyone else. Then in my opinion, for me especially, and for I think probably a vast majority of our viewers, Android will probably suit you better, but that doesn't mean that iOS is inherently bad. Now like, okay, Apple Maps is bad. Okay, but I have still managed to avoid updating to iOS 6. Right. So there, bam. Okay, so fanboyism in general is terrible and I just want to put it this way, being a zealot of anything makes you lame. What do you think about that? I'll just bring it up. Okay, but in cases where it kind of makes sense is when they have like great support, a great warranty. So you can like the brand because of their, how much they will help you, but then if their products suck, that's not gonna help. So you should look at the individual products and then if you find two equals, go with a brand that you know has awesome support. But that's not being a zealot. Like being a zealot is supporting something that we just know is bad. I mean something like, okay, honestly, you know what? Anyone who bought an original Pentium 4 Extreme Edition, tune out now. Just tune out now. Stop watching, go away. I don't want to talk to you anymore because it was an obviously inferior product. I mean, you're probably a little bit too young for this, aren't you? I was not crazy into computer games. Okay, the Pentium 4 Extreme Edition, I think it was the 925XE was the first one. I think, I could be wrong. Terrible product. It ran so hot and it was so slow compared to the FX chip that it was up against, which would have been the FX51 or 53 or something along those lines. The FX, AMD started this whole $1,000 desktop processor thing and like guys, if you think any, if you're all like blah, blah, blah, AMD loves the consumer, that's why they have $200 processors. AMD has $200 processors because that's how much people will pay for their processors. When they thought they could get a thousand bucks for a chip, they were all over that like white on rice. They were, they started this whole Extreme Edition thing that Intel continues to do. So it was just a horrible product compared to what else was out there. People bought it. I know that people bought it. So that to me is being a zealot because AMD and Intel both have a long track record of good reliability, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, all that good stuff. Except we knew that they cost the same and we knew that the Extreme Edition was dramatically slower and otherwise equal in every possible way. Ooh, it had hyperthreading, but it was still slower so it doesn't matter. Yeah, like that's what I mean though. But like, I don't know. Let's talk video cards maybe. Like 9800, it's just reskinned. Which one's that? 9800. Yeah, but that doesn't have to do with brand favoritism. But it was a reskin and a lot of people... Yeah, I guess that's not really brand favoritism. No, no, no. See, why do I even invite him to these things? It's just so that you guys can look at him. But a lot of people would upgrade to it just because they believed. We didn't see that much. It's new from, I knew a lot of people that did. Really? Yeah. But they're like, oh, it's new. I have an 8800 GTX. My 8800 GTX is good and it's Nvidia. So Nvidia came up with something new. That means it's obviously awesome I should upgrade. Okay, well okay, okay. So I see what you mean. Blind faith and brand... Blind upgrading when you actually don't need it because you have that blind faith and that zealotism. So that's almost like the Apple Zombie Syndrome. Yeah, yeah, oh my God, new iPad. I have no idea what just happened, but I'm gonna buy one. See, that's another thing, guys. Like you guys give me a really hard time for owning an iPhone. I don't own an iPhone 5. I don't own a 4S. I didn't own a 3G ES. And I didn't own whatever, what came before that? Wasn't it just 3? 3G. I didn't own a 3G and I didn't own an iPhone. I have owned one iPhone ever because my company said, we're getting you a phone, what do you want? So I picked this, that was it. I had actually only spent money on an Apple product once in my life and it was when I dropped my keys on my iPad and I cracked the screen and it was, I think it was $200 to get a brand new iPad from the store because it was under warranty or something. So I didn't even buy my iPad. I just replaced it when it was broken. So that was the only time. So guys, I don't, oh yeah, here's another one. Has anyone ever told Linus that you look like Eminem? I actually get that a lot and I don't see it. Do you see it? No, doesn't Eminem? No. No, yeah, see guys, no. I get it a lot though. White guy with blonde hair, is that what they're saying? Well, I dyed my hair blonde once. But it's like blonde-ish. Yeah. I don't think his is straight blonde. I don't really know. Yeah, whatever. I don't really see it, I don't know. Okay, you know what? This is a question that's gonna lead us into another discussion topic. So discussion topic for right now is stop asking me what is the best monitor. Stop asking me what is the best case. Stop asking me what is the best mouse. Stop asking me what is the best keyboard. I could go on for a while. If it's something that's subjective, I cannot tell you. You can ask me, I mean, even, I sent out this tweet earlier and I had a lot of people tweet back at me and go, well Linus, what they really mean to ask you is what are you using? To which I would reply, it's probably not relevant because what I'm using, for example, for my monitor is a 305T Plus from Samsung. You can't buy it, it's discontinued. So what am I gonna do? I'm not gonna recommend it because you can't buy it. In fact, same thing goes for my mouse. People ask me, oh, what's the best mouse? And I'll say this and this. And they'll say, oh, well what mouse do you use? And I say, well I use an Akari Laser. Good luck trying to buy one because they're dead now. Well, they're not dead, they still work. Mine works. They're hard to find. But you can't find them anymore. So if you wanna ask a question like what is the best monitor, ask me a question like what is the best monitor for gaming refresh rate is most important to me or color is most important to me because what happens is I end up having to ask probing questions. And what happens on Twitter, if I have to ask you, so if you send me, so here, let's simulate this. Ask me a question. What is the best keyboard? What is your keyboard for? Gaming. Do you need macro keys or not? No. Do you type a lot? Yes. Okay, go with a Dask keyboard. What switches? They both have blues. Or they're okay, but don't be a smart guy. But blue one. Calm down. So my point is I don't see every tweet. If we have to go back and forth four times, you're never gonna get an answer. So don't ask me, Linus, can you configure a PC for me? You know what, go on ncix.com, go to buy a PC and then find a computer and then say, Linus, is this a good computer or what would you change? And then I can send you a summary and Slick can do the same thing. He's super technical too. What would you change? We'll go, oh, well, downgrade this, upgrade this. You can hit approximately that same price point, get 10% better performance. But if you're just like, Linus, I'm not willing to put the work into it. What should I get for custom water cooling? I'm gonna say, look, man, this is Twitter. I have 140 characters to tell you a full custom water cooling loop. I don't know what case you have. I don't know what CPU socket you're using. I don't know what graphics card you have. I don't know if you even wanna water cool your graphics. I don't know what your budget is. Like we wanna help you, but it's a lot better if you give us like, these are very specifically what I want or like these two things. Okay, saying I want a great gaming keyboard with blue backlight. Like that helps. We can help you. That helps a lot. But if it's like, what's the best keyboard? It's way too general. What's the best keyboard? I don't know. Well, you tell me, what do you use? Well, okay, I use a non-backlight ducky with blue. Well, that one has a wire. I don't like wires. I want wireless. Stop. Do mechanical switches inherently use more power? Why don't we have any wireless mechanical keyboards? Cause wireless keyboards are, okay, the whole like mindset of having a mechanical keyboard goes against the like latency issues that are inherited by a wired, by a wireless. But they have very low latency wireless. You can like, you can yourself make using like wireless dongles and whatnot, you could make a Yeah, but then you'd end up with like the, okay, people want wireless because they want something elegant, not cause they want some frankenkey horse with like wires coming out of it here and like screws drilled through. Like random USB dongle just like shooting out of the back. Yeah, that's still a wire. Just saying. No, I mean like the stick, just the stick. You can, don't worry about it. It's just like uber low latency, Enki rollover, like all this kind of stuff is the whole mindset of mechanical. So why would you go wireless? You're not, why would you have a mechanical keyboard for your like media PC? Well, yeah, but I don't, maybe I just don't like, maybe I want to have a great typing experience and I don't want, why, wires? Something wrong with that. I don't know, I just, the market's not there is my guess. I would have thought the market was. There might also be another reason, but I'm not entirely sure. I would have thought the market wasn't there for mechanical keyboards in general, but we've got at least like three or four like. There's entire forums dedicated to it. Well, yeah, exactly, but it's still a niche thing. Comparatively speaking, compared to memory and speak keyboards, like memory keyboards, it's totally niche. Yeah, yeah. It's becoming more popular though, Logitech's embraced it. Someone must have a wireless keyboard at some point, like mechanical keyboard at some point. So anyway. This pest is not going to be applicable. Some of this came from a tweet that I got that was, oh yeah. Another thing guys, is if you've already Googled it and you already can't find it, like the odds are excellent that if you Google like, you know, 120 hertz monitor with great viewing angles and you couldn't find anything like that, the odds are excellent it's because it doesn't exist. And tweeting me about it actually won't help. So I had someone tweet me, do you know a 120 hertz monitor with great viewing angles or at least better than average? And the answer is no, because 120 hertz monitors are all using TN panels. They're using TN panels that are overclocked like mad in order to get the pixels to switch fast enough between color A and color B in order to keep up with that 120 hertz refresh rate. TN monitors have rubbish viewing angles, rubbish color reproduction and rubbish color depth. That's just all there is to it. However, they are much, much faster than VA, IPS or PLS panels, which is good for gaming. However, I personally prefer my 305T Plus for gaming. It's a VA panel, it's slow as heck. I can see the motion blur, but it doesn't bother me that much, input lag is very discernible if I have anti-aliasing on, so I keep it off. I like the high resolution, the deep colors and the accurate colors, that enhances my gaming experience. So you might go, okay Linus, I'm not gonna ask you what's the best monitor, but I'll ask you what's the best gaming monitor? To which I would go, I don't know man. You want resolution, you want color accuracy, you want color depth, you want speed, I don't know. You want 3D? These are all, again, this brings up the forum thing again. These are all a lot better questions for a forum. Yes. We don't have the typing space to deal with it in Twitter. I think that's more what he's complaining about. You know what we need in the forum? We need a section with slicks picks. Yeah. And Linus's, I don't know, there's nothing that catchy. Slicks picks is way better. Although it sounds like, it sounds like, you know, like the nose and the, slicks picks. I don't think it does. Oh my goodness, no, double meaning. Slicks picks, where I try to take pictures of you picking your nose. So it's picks of his picks and they're slicks. Wow. Wow. Wow. No? That shouldn't be an entire forum section? No, I don't think so. Okay then. Let's go back to, let's go back to more topics that I had sort of. Oh yeah, here. Okay, riddle me this. Why do people buy phones without a contract? This tweet's point is iPhone is. No, no, don't worry about that one. This one, just that, yeah. Why would you buy a phone without a contract? Riddle me this, like phones are like $600. It's a lot of money. I think you're already on a contract. So you just switch what phone you're using. Okay. So like if someone had. Why are you switching your phone? Because you want a new one. I wouldn't, I'm just trying, I'm playing devil's advocate. I'm trying to fight for the guys that do. Like I've got a friend at school that really, really wanted the Nexus 4. I don't know what he has right now, but he really, really wanted a Nexus 4. So he was waiting to buy a Nexus 4 online. He already has a contract. He just wanted a new phone. You and me aren't, I like Android and I play around with my Android, but I'm definitely not as crazy as, well, one of my friends. Other than that, I'm pretty much the craziest in our group. But like some of the guys that follow me on Twitter have commented on stuff that's a little bit over my head. And I've looked it up and figured it out. But yeah, but like if you're a phone advocate, it might be worth for you to buy a new phone. You're just buying a new piece of technology. Okay. I'm sure they know it's not. But the release cycles on them are so fast. That's true. But like if you have the money to spend and that's what you're really into, then why not? I would make the argument that any phone from the last couple of years is a phone already. Already completely. And does pretty much anything that you could possibly need. Okay, tell me what you can do with your Nexus, or whatever that thing is. Galaxy S3 that you couldn't do with your Nexus S. A lot of the games. A lot of the games in my Nexus S would like emulators. Emulators would like, some of the higher end emulators would like. Okay. This is just generally faster. Okay. Which it has a way nicer, even though I had Jelly Bean on my Nexus S, this one's Jelly Bean due to its hardware advancements is a lot snappier, a lot faster and a lot more fluid. And I can go from like playing a game. I can be in the middle of a playing a game and just like tap home button and just send an email and jump back into the game. On my Nexus S would be like tap home button. Oh God. The game has to like decide that it's quitting now. Okay. See, this is yet another like iOS thing. I'm kind of spoiled. I don't have that. You don't have what? Like there's no, there's no lag. I can exit a game and then go do something else and go back into it. Yeah, but I'm talking about pretty intense games, not angry birds. What's an intense game on a phone though? They have higher end games. Like that Blade one or whatever, Infinity Blade. I don't know. Infinity Blade's supposed to have good games. That was a long time ago. The only games I have on my phone are from Humble Bundle. Oh, okay. Okay. Well, fine. You've made your point. Okay. I kind of understand. I mean, it's been a long time. It's just not really your thing. Yes. Phones are not my thing. Yeah. So like you can't hate on someone for enjoying something really. I suppose. Best case, best case. No, no, this is related to the same thing. Oh, oh. Oh, okay. You know what? Let's do a little bit of a Twitter Q and A because we've really abandoned the poor peeps on Twitter tonight. 320 new interactions. All right, here we go. All right. I was wondering if you could suggest a good gaming keyboard with macro keys. I also type a lot, so it need to be good for typing. You know what? Actually, G710 Plus would be a great choice. There. Yeah, actually. Bam. Okay, here. Spend some time with the G710 Plus. I'll do Twitter questions for a bit. See what you think. Okay. Because the build quality feels pretty solid to me. All right, 27 inch monitor with two to three millisecond response time. Don't care about the hertz and a matte bezel under $400. What would you recommend? You know what, Ian? You've got such a good idea of what you want. You might as well just type that all into Google and find it. However, two to three millisecond response time is totally unrealistic. So this is where you're asking me for something that actually doesn't probably exist. Wow, a lot of people are asking me to unbox the Razer Uroboros. So I should probably do something about that. I haven't actually, can I email this to myself? I don't know, in Hootsuite, I can email myself a tweet to remind me. But I will try to remember to deal with that because a lot of people have asked me for that. And now I've lost where we were. What have you done, Slick? I didn't do anything. Okay, here we go. We're typically at around one gig for most modern games. However, more gigs is only really useful for higher res or many displays. Nick, that has not been my experience. I've seen games use more than a gig of RAM. A contract with an S3 for 24 months will cost around 1K, but buy the phone for 400 and a 12 month contract is a better deal. Okay, Saeed, you live in the UK, obviously, and it might be different there, but here, trust me, it is a way better deal to just get the phone with a contract, especially because you have to get a service plan anyway. I know that wireless is really cheap in the UK, but here it's totally different because Canada's really big and to a lesser extent, the US is quite big as well compared to the UK. In the UK, you put up, what, three cell towers? And you have deployed the latest high speed technology, whereas the carriers in Canada have to, I mean, how many towers do you think they have to put up compared to like- Oh, that's ridiculous. And then they get like, a lot of carriers in Canada base their coverage off of population coverage, not land coverage. Did you know that? Really? Because all they'll cover is like, in BC, they'll cover Vancouver and Victoria Island, and then a little bit of Kelowna and stuff, and then they don't go up from there. Seriously, look at- You know, I've seen the Rogers map, because it's just like, the top is empty. Yeah, it's empty, and then it's like, it scoops up a little bit on the West Coast, and then kind of goes like, brrrr, and then jumps a bit when it gets to Ontario, and that's about it. So you're not really getting all of Canada coverage. So yeah, here, the plans are actually super expensive. My cell phone's about $100 a month because I have to place some calls to the US, so I need a couple more advanced features for business. Nick Carter asks, is it possible to find this? Yes, it is. eBay has them, ebay.com. Go there. Search for 2560 times 1440. What is the best fan setup for the Corsair Obsidian? If I don't use the bottom fan mount, going to use an H100i in the top mounts. Just use Noctua F series for everything, and it will always be the best. Actually, I don't remember if the C70 has 140 mil fans. You know what? Best fan setup is always easy. Find good fans, put them in your case. Don't worry too much about it beyond that. Oh, Linus, I've read a lot that you need two millisecond response time monitors to game. What max response time do you think is needed for gaming? Anyone who tells you you need a two millisecond response time for gaming is an idiot because it doesn't exist. There is no such thing as a monitor with two millisecond response time that doesn't exhibit motion blur, which is exactly what the response time means. Response time is, it's rated in either gray to gray, or whatever the other one is, and it means how quickly the pixels can change color. Pixels are not fast, they are slow. They are so slow compared to CRT, compared to DLP in projection, or in projectors compared to plasma. LCD pixels are slow. So any monitor that is rated at two milliseconds, you know right off the bat they are lying because none of them are that fast. What's more important than the response time of the panel because there's only like a half a dozen, maybe, I don't know how many panel manufacturers are left. There's LG Phillips, there's Samsung. I think AUL still manufactures some. But there's only a few guys left actually manufacturing LCD panels. So it's all the same stuff. So it's not like one of them is like, whoa, way faster than something else because of like magic. So yeah, so anyone who tells you two milliseconds is lying. Also, the electronics of the monitor are in some ways way more important than the actual response time of the screen since you know that that's gonna be pretty much the same. So I have a monitor that has such bad input lag. So input lag, how long it takes between the monitor receiving the signal and actually sending that to the pixels before they change. So I'll go like this. It's like when I move the mouse. Like it's just terrible. It's an older monitor. None of the new stuff's that bad. Mostly you just see like motion blur on VA panels. But where was I going with this? If you must have the fastest possible monitors, get a 120 hertz panel. BenQ's 2420T is excellent. Asus' VG series, I think is it VG, VH, something, whatever, they're 120 hertz and 144 hertz panels are as good as you're gonna get. The colors are terrible. The viewing angles are terrible. Don't ask me if it's the best monitor because it's not. But it is the fastest. And like, okay, it still matters if you're ridiculously hardcore, but the two MS thing is kind of a sham. Just try and go for one that's good quality like you was talking about. Christian. I'm ready to talk about this one. Okay. Christian says he buys off contract for his phones, can get a better plan that is cheaper in the long run. Okay, again, depends how it works where you're from. In Canada, you do not get a cheaper plan for having your own phone. But this is educational for me. Now I understand why people do it because here in Canada makes, yeah. People still do it here though. Yeah, that I don't understand. I bought a phone case because my old one broke. Ah, Slick's picks and Linus' finest. That's not bad for our top choices. Yeah, that's actually pretty good. Why hasn't cricket caught on in Canada? Well, the socks are an issue. It's a very European game. Yeah, I know. They wear those socks. Here. And I think the, a lot of sports are influenced from like a really long time ago. And I think the whole America and Canada trying to separate themselves from the European grouping of countries. My guess is that it's that way. Look at this guy. Look at him. I don't think that's why people don't want to play it here. Are you sure that's not why people don't want to play it? Look at him. I mean, here, it doesn't get any better. Look at these guys. So look at, look at curling. Curling's huge in Canada. Yeah, but curling's inexplicable too. But it's huge in Canada. Old people play it. It's like golf where like old people can still do it. So maybe that's why it's popular. Look at these guys. These guys are probably like super famous and awesome. Look how bad ass this guy looks. Look at that look on his face. And this guy's a dreamboat. But come on. They got like stars on their uniform and stuff. Okay, okay. I mean, it's not getting any better for this game. Okay. This kid's pretty cool. Okay, fine. We're not gonna pick on cricket anymore. I'm done. I'm done and I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You know what? I think it's just a cultural thing. I mean, hockey is Canada's sport. It's like you watch what your dad watches. It's like why isn't, oh boy, this is gonna get ugly. But like why isn't Christianity popular in the Middle East? Because your dad didn't believe in Jesus. So they never told you about it. And that's just, it's cultural. Everything is cultural. Why isn't curry popular in Great Britain? Because that's not what you grew up eating. So I grew up watching hockey. My dad watched hockey. There's hockey night in Canada. It's just built into the fabric of your culture. That's all it is. I'm sure there is a lot to do. It has a lot to do with it. Why is badminton not popular in North America? Fantastic sport. Fast paced, super athletic, entertaining to watch. Tons of fun to play. But everyone in North America thinks badminton is this. Plink, plink, plink. Badminton is not that. Badminton is 300 plus kilometer per hour smashes. But I played tennis and I thought badminton, I thought it was more than I think most people from where I grew up thought it was. But then after seeing him play, it's actually pretty freaking ridiculous. After playing myself. I still remember. Playing myself. I still remember what you said to me. The first, because I had to, it was a late filming night and I took Slick with me to, because I was like, I wanna go play badminton tonight. Do you wanna just like nap on the couch? There's a couch there. And you said something along the lines of like, holy crap, you're really fast. Yeah, yeah. I did not expect him to be that fast at all. He did not know the game was fast. You have to be fast. But it hasn't caught on and yeah, I don't know. You had Slick's pick sounds like nude pics of Slick. You know what, we could add that to the forum. Might drive traffic. Yeah, might drive traffic. Okay guys, if you would come to our forum to see nude pics of him, then go away. Cause he's really not that good looking. Let's cover him up again. Nude pics of Slick. I have two GTX 560s and SLI. Yes, your power supply is fine. What does Gosu mean? Pro in Korean. Pro in Korean? It's from, sorry, it's from Handsome, I think it's called handsomegamer.com. The big StarCraft caster has a site where he sells shirts and they all reference StarCraft. And you'll see Gosu and StarCraft sounds really good. You don't care, just keep going. I like it though, it's cool. Do you feel the nostalgia the days you wanted a Motorola Razr so badly? Actually I don't, I've never been a phone guy. I've owned like five phones in my life over a span of like 10 years. So that should give you guys some idea what my upgrade cycle is. And it was always whatever was free with a contract or whatever like work offered me. The only reason why I ever got a phone in the first place was so that I could get the cheapest phone with the cheapest plan that offered unlimited texting so that my girlfriend could text me. That was the only reason I got it. I got it so that she could talk to me. I've never bought a phone, I just realized that. My mom bought me my first phone because it was like this cool Motorola thing. It was called the V-Box or something like that. It had a full keyboard. It was the first cell phone, like mainstream cell phone. It was $200 with a plan that had a full keyboard. Then that one broke so I got a warranty replacement of something else and then that one died so I used someone else's old phone and then I got my job at NCIX and they issued me a Blackberry and then that one got to be like three and a half years old and I was up for renewal so then I got an iPhone with my plan and it was provided by work. I've never bought a phone. There you go. I just realized that. Learned something every day. Well, I didn't learn it but I realized it. Sort of the same thing. Oh my goodness. It is not a 130 hertz monitor. Some people have managed to overclock the early ones. That's done now. In Soviet Russia, Google Linus is you. Okay, thank you Peter. I have a level 10 GT. Wanted to know if I can keep my fan LEDs the same color at boot. I have no idea. I also don't know why that would matter. Linus' Lynx isn't bad. So you mean to say that you have to sacrifice qualities for high frame rates with a 120 hertz monitor? Yes, yes you do. The only way to get high frame rates, great color and yeah, high frame rates are like fast frequencies, great color and like great brightness and all that stuff is to have a 60 pound CRT. I kind of wish someone still made like a 24 inch widescreen CRT. That'd be kind of awesome. I wonder what the shipping costs on those are nowadays. Well, I mean, that was always a huge part of why CRTs were expensive. No, I know, I'm just saying like your pricing for that would have to be incredible. Yeah, it would have to be just like horrible compared and the volumes would be so low because nobody wants a CRT. I mean, some people do, but they're very niche. Okay, we've got like, I thought I saw someone say something about tedious. Oh no, I thought someone said our conversation was tedious. If you guys don't like the conversation, I'm very sorry. Moderators from forums will be individually selected based on contribution in the forum. That much is set in stone at this point in time. What you got for a topic? We've got a couple things, probably CES. Oh yeah, so guys, we mentioned a little while back that we're gonna be at CES, so he and I, and Diesel's coming too now, yay, are gonna be at CES this year. We are gonna be doing all kinds of cool stuff. We wanna know what's your priority. So the goal is to provide the most complete content possible. So we wanna do video, then we wanna have pictures to go along with a little written article that has the video embedded in it. We want you guys to have the CES experience that you would have if you got to go, which you don't because you don't have an industry affiliation, unless you do, in which case maybe I'll see you there. So what's the most important to you guys? Because there's a lot of aspects. Number one is there's the show floor itself, where you're gonna have a lot of iPhone accessories. Like serious business, like a third of the booths will be like iPhone crap. Then there'll be like the Intel thing, which will be like this huge thing and probably its own dedicated video or multiple videos. And then in between that you've got guys like, shuttle for example, where they're like IT, cool IT components showing off new stuff, but they're not Intel and they're also not iPhone accessories where it's kind of cool stuff. Then you've got the suites. So guys like some of the boutiquey guys, like an EVGA or someone like that, Corsair, might have all their new stuff on display in a suite in a nearby hotel. And finally, there's just the general hubbub. You guys wanna see the traffic and like just all the people around and like sort of some of the cool stuff going on outside the CES building. So what's your priority? What do you guys wanna see? You wanna see the show floor? You wanna see the suites and focus on sort of what's on display more privately? Or do you wanna focus on, like do you wanna see keynotes and stuff? Which I don't think is gonna be an option because we can't get press passes, but yeah. Okay, forget the keynotes, we can't bring you that. But do you guys guys just want like general footage or the whole thing? Like the being there experience, right? Yeah, but like also what's now? Thanks for the contribution. Like you were talking pretty quick the whole time. What do you want me to do? Like do you want? Well, I wanna say something when you're talking. I just talk over you. Because you're a jerk. Yeah. Like do you want more of a focus on written articles? Do you want quick, quick, quick articles all the time? Or do you want just like more in-depth, thorough articles? Like yeah, just what do you guys want? Yeah, what do you want? A lot of computers. Okay, well we don't have to transition into that right away. We could actually read what they're saying. Well, okay, I thought they were gonna say it. He wants no iPhone stuff. All right. Is it useful having four gigs of VRAM? Yes. However, I have no idea how much VRAM future games will use because they're not here yet. When are you going to play Super Mario Brothers? We said we're gonna, yeah, we gotta find out. I have no idea. I have no idea. We're both ridiculously busy, so finding time to sit down and bust through Super Mario Brothers is gonna be hard. Yeah, it's in school. I work full-time plus YouTube, so that should give you guys some idea. Sinuses? No, that's terrible. What was I gonna say? But like we will, I think at some point in time. We will get it done. Maybe in the summer. Yeah, like it might take a long time, but it'll happen. We will announce that the forum is live the second it's live, guys. Yeah. A little twist if you could get a... I might do, for some testing for the forum, I might just post on my Twitter so we don't get completely ridiculously zero-grushed. Because we will if we post it on your Twitter. So I might just post it on mine, and I might just put it up for a little bit of time just to test certain things. And I'll probably have a theme, like post pictures. Or something. Here's a good question. And asking me, I guess, if you have any, actually, why don't we both answer. If you could have any phone now for free, would you go with an iOS phone or Windows or Android? Go. I would love to try the new Windows one, but I would probably go with... What if you were locked into it? Like what if you're a cheap person like you are, he's like one of the cheapest people I know. What if you were cheap and you knew that whatever phone you pick, you're stuck with it for the next three years? Nexus 4. You'd go with the Nexus 4? Yeah. Done? Nexus support is amazing. You'll always get the new OS upgrades, you'll always get all that kind of stuff, so Nexus 4. Okay. OS 3, it's great, but if I'm locked into something, I would like it to be a Nexus... And I know, I am, right? It sucks, warranty issues. Anyways. If I'm locked into something, Nexus. And the newest one is the Nexus 4, and it's getting awesome reviews, and it's just generally great. So yeah, I'd go with Nexus 4. Hands down. I would get an iPhone 5. You know what? Okay. Not because I'm a zealot, but a couple of reasons. You're used to the user experience. I am used to it. I hate learning new things. Although I have spent a fair amount of time with Android just because I have to, because it's my job. However, all the apps I own are on iOS. I have bought apps, and migrating is a pain. I have an iPad, and I don't like Android tablets yet. I haven't found one that I really, really like. I use my Galaxy Tab 10.1 to watch flash videos. Other than that, I refuse to use it, I use the iPad. I use my TF 700 again for watching flash videos when the battery's dead on the Galaxy Tab, because it's too heavy, and the Galaxy Tab is lighter. I'm a really picky user, and I've had people say that I'm just like a really, like, you know, don't be such a bitch, just use whatever. But come on, guys. If you could have every tablet, yo, wouldn't you just be picky about which one you use? I mean, they're all here. Why don't I use the one I like best? Bam. So, yes, so I like, you know, having that ecosystem that is similar. I'd never go Mac for it. Like, I'd never go Mac to have the full integration. Thank God. I don't know, maybe I'd consider a Windows phone. I'm interested in the Windows phone, because Windows 8 is pretty awesome. I mean, we played around with that Samsung one. Not enough, though. I know. It wasn't enough. We saw a Samsung Windows 8 phone at the Windows 8 launch party. It looked awesome. It looks great. It was basically an S3 made out of metal that had Windows 8 on it, so it was pretty legit. The camera sucked. I didn't check the camera. No, the camera sucked. Did it? I thought it was supposed to be the same as this one. I don't think so. Oh, because this one's kind of okay. No, it was the tablet. It was the tablet that the camera sucked on. The tablet had a terrible camera. Yeah, the tablet had a terrible camera. The Windows 8 one from Samsung has the same camera as this, which is great. Okay, my bad. I, okay, I would waffle about it. It would be a tough choice. I wouldn't go Android, though. Okay. I'm not surprised. Take that. Just because, well, I know you don't like the user experience. Take that. I, I mean. Personally, I think Android's better. And you know what? This comes down to that fanboyism thing again, where honestly, sometimes fanboyism isn't fanboyism. Sometimes it's a negative past experience. The Android experience with my wife's phone has been terrible. But you're using, like, again, not an Exys device, so you didn't get updates. And you're using one, like an older Android OS. And older Android OSes were not that popular. It's a lot more popular now. This is a good one. Trent asks, can you do more 3D monitor unboxings around 23 inch and more affordable? Not those $600 ones, please. This is a great example where if you checked it out and you searched for 3D monitors on, say, for example, a popular retail website like NCIX, what you'd see is that the 3D monitors do cost a lot. So for me to unbox the ones that are not expensive would be very difficult. Slicks, pics, and Linus's lube. Ooh. Ooh. Linus likes. Linus likes. That's not bad. Is that on Twitter or something? No, I just thought of that. Okay, do you have anything else for really important discussion topics? Because it's 1042 already. For people that are really into games, a new release that's coming out fairly soon, I think it's right at the beginning of December, Far Cry 3. If you look on YouTube, there's the first 20 minutes of the game. Looks awesome. Really excited for Far Cry 3. The storyline sounds amazing if you've been following the storyline updates at all. And the gameplay video is just, it's great. Check it out. It's 20 minutes. Doesn't ruin the storyline at all. No spoilers. The ad for it on The Escapist is terrible. The voice actor is, I think, the worst I've ever heard. The voice actor, which one? The main character, I think. Really? It's, maybe it's just for the ad. Maybe he just phoned in the ad spot or something. Maybe. Because it was just terrible. It's like, my friends and I went to an island and then we were captured. Originally, he's kind of like a prissy boy. And his brother's in the army. And his brother, in a little tiny bit of time, trains him very basic things. And then he has to find his way to survive. And he becomes like, I don't know. If it's better than Far Cry 2, I'll be happy. He's got rich parents and stuff, and they sent him on this trip. And then all of his friends got captured and killed, and et cetera. OK. Harry asks a question that can be addressed. He wants to blabble something everyday computer in gaming server. He needs a GPU with dual HDMI. No, you don't. DVI is the same signal as HDMI. DVI to HDMI adapter is exactly the same image quality as straight HDMI. And vice versa, for that matter. The only difference is that HDMI has half the bandwidth of dual link DVI. We can leave that one out. We can actually leave those for next week. Because we've kind of run out of time. I just want to see if anyone else has. Tyler asks, do I still have the Surface? I do not. That was only an eval unit. I only got to hold onto it for about two weeks. I did really like it, though. This is time specific. Steam sales. There's tons of epic steam sales going on right now. Black Friday. Yeah. There's some done by hours. There's some done by days. Go check it out. There's going to be new steam sales up all the time. And a lot of them are really good. I know there's a reddit thread for all the top discount ones. So some of them are like 80%, 75%. Cool. You should check it out. OK, well, I've been corrected. Juan writes back in to say, actually, Linus, you're wrong. At 120hertz.biz. Ah, ha, ha, ha, ha. Hold on. Actually, it's on sale. And people are having good results. Bam. Sold out since November 1. So I don't know. I don't know who's right. Let's go back to Twitter. Let's see. EVGA step up from 660Ti SLI to 2680s and SLI worth it. Hard to say. Depends on what you're paying for it. What's your experience? Yeah. Surface RT I really liked. But I'm really excited for Surface Pro. Full Windows 8. Full Windows 8, that's going to be truly awesome. You can actually install things and fully use the OS. Truly awesome. Like super excited about that. Oh, yeah. Love it. Good ideas. Something, something. What was the question we even asked? I don't think anyone's answered it. I use Xsplit. What people want to see at CES. Yeah. Nobody answered it. Yes, this is a good monitor. If the Surface Pro is at CES, you should do an in-depth article on that. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. This is good to hear. OK. Maybe I should change my answer then. Maybe I should just say I bet the bullet and go for Windows 8. Go for Gold. What do you think of the G710 Plus? OK, I've been sitting here for a while. Right. You have to hold it up because they can't see it. Because it's covered by it. One of my first things that I noticed is the whole, I don't know if you can see that so well. Oh, yeah, you can as I turn it like this. See all the glossy? We talked about that earlier today. The whole thing's glossy. And the whole time I've been sitting here. Hold on, that's not the whole thing. OK, I'm masked. The keycaps are masked. Oh, of course. What do you mean, of course? They could be glossy. But there's a lot of glossy. Razer. Razer has a glossy keyboard. Do they? I would never buy it. Yeah, they have the Lycosa. Lycosa Mirror was super glossy. Ugh, ugh, ugh. I saw someone with it at a LAN. It was the most disgusting thing I'd ever seen. Ugh, OK. Anyways, the whole time I've been sitting here, if you guys see me looking down a lot, it's because I'm grabbing my shirt like this and putting my finger in it so that I can clean the glossiness. Because it is just driving me insane already. So I do not like that at all. The keys feel good. Obviously, I'm a fan of blues. So I'm not really going to comment on that too much. Keycaps seem pretty legit. There's a few things. Game mode, I wish that was a switch. OK, rather than a toggle button. Um, the. They can't see what you're doing. I'm just saying. Right, yeah, I know. The mute button and game mode should be switches, in my opinion. OK. Other than that, it seems pretty legit. The build quality seems really good. Really, really good. Would you put it up there with Philco and Ducky? The build quality? Yeah. See, I'm already cleaning more of the glossy stuff. I don't know. I still think I'd need more time with it. OK. But maybe. Close, though. Close. I think it's like one of the biggest contenders so far. But I still think Philco and Ducky would be it, probably. OK. Well, thank you guys for watching. Actually, yeah. Yeah, no, Philco and Ducky still beat it. OK. So thank you guys for watching the livestream tonight. And peace out. What did you just do? I don't know. You did your peace sign. I was doing my peace sign. What's your peace sign? Show me that again. It's a Japanese thing. What? All right, Gosu. No one's ever watching by the end, anyway. Well, at least on the YouTube archive. No, no. There's still people watching the live one. Oh, yeah. And thank you, all of you who tuned in tonight. You guys are awesome. Yeah. Yeah, that's actually really cool. Why are you leaping it on? Just click. Or let's bring up another topic and keep talking. One of the two.