 All right guys welcome to the WAN show where we are halfway through actually being set up for the show But I figured you know what I Had better just start this in spite of the color being completely wonky ah there we go Fixing the lighting live here for your viewing pleasure That is to say your pleasure that gets better as the viewing experience goes on because it started out completely incomplete Can something be completely incomplete or if it was completely incomplete would it just be? nothing It was completely incomplete. I'm just stalling for time Brandon. I'm clearly stalling for time. Don't question it. It's not helpful All right, let me get the dock up here. We go. Oh That was awful. I apologize sincerely to our loyal twitch viewers out there who I'm sure We're not real pleased with that noise you have Pella to thank he's a jerk so There's that He's not actually a jerk. He's very nice Mild-mannered even I would go that far as to call him mild-mannered We've got a lot of great topics for you guys today Pewdiepie vows to delete his channel at 50 million subscribers JK doesn't delete his channel Steam users enraged over Intel exclusive content in game Wow it's like who thought that one was gonna end well nobody I hope Ubisoft executives find a hot 1.2 million for for insider trading trading during watchdogs and South Korea makes game modding illegal That's right my friends illegal game modding So let's go ahead and roll the intro which I am fairly certain is not going to work properly, but I'm over it Look at that look at that slow guy I Have no idea what's causing this it's like a complete and utter mystery I tried a different video format and like It was playing in real time, but then it would just jump around So that's not Actually that much better. Hey John. We're live I Don't know where John is but John's gonna be joining me pretty quick here. I Might even go get a chair for him We'll see I'm gonna get a chair for him mild-mannered Pella Getting it. Oh wow yeah, not powered by razor comms is a very old very old intro Red and Then what else who else is who else is sponsoring the show today wait hold on a second hold on a second Mac Weldon is a sponsor today Okay, well I will have to so this is what see this is what happens when Colton's not here for one day We tease Colton a lot, but he's basically the glue that holds this entire operation together and He's the kind of person who's organized enough to go gee There's a Mac Weldon spot on the WAN show today. Maybe we should ensure that there are Mac Weldon shirts for the hosts I John will survive My car sucks the snow and it's snowing here. Yeah, well you drive a Mustang. I'm not sure what you were expecting What does your car not suck at it is after all American made? What a troll oh and the shots fired is coming early on the show today here you get him pulling me Yeah, you get it. Yeah, I'm being pulled okay, okay? All right, so I think since we're starting a little bit late. We are gonna jump right into our first topic There's actually a lot of Great topics this week Thank you. Thank you Nicholas light Or just are we doing you are the light of my life I? Don't know any other people with the last name light, so you kind of want it by default Are we doing an on-air shirt change? I'm I'm gonna change mine on air But I'm gonna carefully do it without showing my nips because that's not allowed Due to twitch's terms of service, so I'm just gonna know shirtless dudes on twitch no shirtless dudes on twitch No shirtless anyone because twitch is about equality Mm-hmm, so if women can't be shirtless then men can't be shirtless And that's just the way it's going to be to which I would say No, I'm not gonna say anything so hold on let me just get my laptop in the way here Yeah, sometimes it's better not to say anything am I allowed to show bare shoulders. I know nips aren't allowed This is where I know the line definitely is yet. We need a sensor sensor things that was a nip That was just a weird mole. I have on my chest. It's true Okay, there we go, so why is the show late today? Just kidding nobody asked But just in case you were thinking maybe you would ask if you thought that you would get any kind of meaningful answer from me It is because I was trying to make a hard drive waterproof Truly an important scientific endeavor for the betterment of all humanity if there ever was one I don't know how many times I've been you know at Sea world or not a sea world but like in a water park or something and like you know what I wish I had right now a 10 terabyte hard drive But specifically a waterproof one specifically a sea one for one that is 100% of Our respondents to our survey go see that have confirmed that okay They want a waterproof hard drive can't find anything wrong with that logic So there you go. That's what I was working on did I succeed or did I not succeed well? You're gonna have to stay tuned for the video I don't think you're gonna have to wait that long though because we're a little bit behind on filming so there you go All right, so the original poster here was Ali Zaydi 2000 on the forum and And of course there's a gigantic Forbes ad before I can look at the article the original article is from Forbes.com PewDiePie trolls everyone doesn't actually delete his YouTube channel did anyone think He was going to delete his YouTube channel Taryn at least at least a couple people here did I'm not going to name names, but some folks did Taryn you are so Friggin goable he does this kind of crap all the time He did not know that apparently I I mean I don't even watch his content. I knew that that's just embarrassing Okay, maybe we can get centered at some point here. I think well well keep drifting is it like my personal magnetism Like like I'm a positive and you're a positive so it's like I'm not a positive I'm a positive I've worked here for a year and a half. You know another positive You have your positive. I appreciate that Linus um so basically he made a video Called the video deleting my channel at 50 million said he would delete his channel once he hit 50 million subscribers He actually offered some fairly plausible sounding logic for it something along the lines of You know I started up another channel and was able to grow it very quickly because I'm that amazing And that was that was I think he called it. Yeah, Jack septic eye 2 yes And the idea behind creating that one was he wanted another gold play button Meaning he now has as many gold play buttons as we do Shameless Just because it's true what you're saying is true just because we only have one Fifteenth as many subscribers on our primary channel does not mean that we don't also have two golden play buttons, so there's that anyway He actually deleted the jacksepticeye 2 channel as a way of fulfilling his bargain part of the rationale that he was offering up also seems to have to do with some of the algorithmic changes that YouTube has allegedly been making this has been kind of big news over the last week or two Plus depending on how far back you go because we actually first started complaining about it probably about Let me just see if I can find if I can find that email chain that I had going with our YouTube rep No, that's not it well, but ever I can't find it, but it was oh is it this one I Don't know I think it was I think it was about a month ago something along those lines where Basically it wasn't that we were observing that the channel was getting Crushed out right, but we were observing that in particular our new videos We're performing very poorly and for those of you who are wondering if we were ever going to weigh in on this I guess I guess I wasn't going to it wasn't on our topics for today, but I will so pretty much what happened was our new videos were not performing very well and YouTube basically told us well then get good noob and we kind of went Okay, I Guess that's pretty much trying yeah, that's all I can do we really do get up every day and try and get good It's absolutely true my car was even doing this on the roads, and I still got here just so I could get good I guess Get good I guess yeah, thank you for that um All right, let's move on to our next topic then steam users enraged over. Do you have the dock up um? Well, I was but not on this laptop because it's not my laptop I did look at it before we started so I have I'm familiar with most of these stories at least a little bit Oh, so you're one step ahead of me then well what Google account are you logged into here? I'll see I am logged in oh look so there, so that's probably shared on it just I do not condone the hijacking of other employees I'm using this with permissions are you I am oh good, okay? I share an office with Luke of course I talked to him about it well Okay As long as you guys have a safe word for your sharing so steam Man, this was just like complete disaster Start to finish posted originally on the forum by Z mule and the original article here is from polygon.com Who thought this was a good idea? steam users enraged over Intel exclusive content in game inspiring quick reversal and It's more than just there was some content in the game that was exclusive To Intel users it was actually exclusive to Intel core i7 users so Here we go the developers of Arizona sunshine for the HTC Vive and the controversy began over two pieces of content in game Okay, so the controversy over the two pieces of content began with a post on the game's team page asking why one machine the player Owned could play the horde mode in single-player and the other could not So the developer explained that the horde setting and apocalyptic mode were locked to machines running core i7 until March of next year we're talking a three month Exclusivity period for buying a core i7 thoughts so So I can see that this was not mentioned at all to anybody before the release of the game So which like which direction was the deception in did they advertise all the content? But then everyone found out oh you have to have an i7 or was it the other way around where they didn't advertise? Whatever the extra content was but then if you have an i7 you found out after the fact hey There's all this extra stuff all of a sudden I Don't know if that matters a whole lot either way, but I can see people being extremely Extremely extremely upset if they were promised something that they just weren't given so I From from my mind I see your point, but I actually don't really think that it matters It's deception like either way so and not even if it's deception. It's just a really bad precedent I mean you look at how upset the gaming community gets over stuff like Nvidia game works where Nvidia is Legitimately going out and building tools that game developers can use like kind of copy paste I'm simplifying it obviously But can copy paste into their game for some fire effect or some hair effect or whatever the case may be Look at how upset people are about the very idea of a piece of gaming content Not being platform agnostic At all especially the fact they weren't open about it and here. Yeah, I mean here The message is even worse so vertigo games responded Working with Intel allowed us to create even more content than we originally planned Including these modes and the physics systems in the game making Arizona sunshine one of the richest VR experiences possible which is just another way of saying Intel handed us three big bags of money and We invested those into our game, and we agreed to lock down the game well at least parts of the game for core i7 users only Entirely artificially in exchange for aforementioned money now if we're talking about a feature that they implemented that straight up Wouldn't work on other hardware so something like a physX. Yeah, where it's just like mind you okay? physX is another sort of like or like Like HDR 10 like there are some things that just don't like there's some hardware that just does not support sure okay, okay? Outputting HDR 10 HDR display sorry that's only gonna work on the latest Polaris GPUs and Nvidia 10 series Yeah, but this is like an HDMI output limitation right this is more like just an artificial limitation on purpose and yeah, it's it's one of those things where like I've had conversations with people at Intel Where and actually I you know I'm probably at Liberty to talk about it because the person in question is no longer working there You're gonna go with probably I'm gonna go with probably okay. Yeah, I'm gonna go with probably I mean you're not you're not legally allowed to counsel me up here anyway, so not that's yeah, that's absolutely true Yeah, you're gonna have to pass a whole different bar for that So I have had conversations with Intel where this guy And I don't know where he got it from but was insisting to me that a core i7 was the best VR experience to which I replied I mean maybe in a completely immeasurable way because a Core i5 like a latest generation core i5 Especially going back. I mean they enabled it for fifth sixth and seventh generation core i7 so you even have to go back a generation So especially the latest generation core i5 I guarantee you is gonna run a game any game on the market right now Just as well as the latest generation core i7 you don't need eight threads No game you just don't you just don't not yet Maybe in time, but as it stands now a core i5 6600 K will perform just as well as a 6950 X in pretty much any game now. I believe there may be some exceptions city skylines So you'll see a little better it scales a little bit better, but it's not the difference is like a couple of frames It's not ridiculous. It's not the difference between unplayable and the richest VR experiences Possible that's not what happens there so fans revolted Most asking why this hadn't been mentioned before launch vertigo games then Basically ran to Intel went yo this is actually causing more problems than the money could possibly compensate for We really need to undo this because it's bad PR for you, too Then they went back to the gamers Apologized and unlocked the locked modes for all players This reminds me a little bit of something a little bit of something that Intel did I believe it was I think it was about a decade ago Maybe a little bit longer when they had they actually wrote their own compiler for programmers I don't think a ton of people were using it, but they found out later on it would only take advantage of certain CPU instruction capabilities if it was an Intel processor the system was running even if it was even if it was AMD and Even if the AMD chip supported these instruction sets it just wouldn't run and there was a huge controversy over that I remember and they were legally required to put a disclaimer on so so yeah It was it just reminded me of that a little bit. I guess so Yeah, I mean this is Like I don't think it's quite I mean okay the fact that it's not disclaimed very well is really really crummy But at least they aren't handicapping the performance of someone else's system like at least they didn't have the game developer You'd like like your example use a compiler that's gonna make the game run worse on other things they just They're also just like completely like denying people content though, so You know I guess it just depends on your perspective, but yeah, not good I mean one way or another neither of us thinks it's good neither of us is pleased neither were the gamers and You have to give at least a little bit of credit where credit is due at least they came out Reverse the decision and now everyone has access to the content I just figured out why not very many people are watching WAN show today It seems to be related to the fact that I forgot to record an intro for the show and I think it's a good thing I've actually recorded an intro for the show and upload it to YouTube so bear with me one moment We're doing it now go watch the WAN show twitch.tv slash Linus tech I forgot to do this before the show so I'm actually recording this during the show But it's four by three for some reason don't worry too much about that just watch the show It'll be great twitch.tv slash Linus tech John's helping hi Yes, so if you want to lead our next topic I'm gonna go ahead and upload that to YouTube Okay, I derped do you care what order I do these things in or not I? Do not care okay, so next topic So South Korea has effectively made game modding illegal So they've passed an amendment into law with the intent of shutting down video game hacks and modifications and based on the law manufacture or distribution of programs that are not allowed by a game company or its terms of service or Actually against the law so this includes aim botters hacking programs scriptors basically anything That's not allowed by the terms of service The punishment for this is actually it's theoretically pretty steep Five years of jail time or the equivalent of forty three thousand US dollars in fines Part of this is in response to hacking communities for certain games particularly overwatch hacking is run rampant with overwatch in South Korea So Blizzard has been trying to take its own action against players that are doing the hacks But now with this they're also going to have the full backing of the South Korean government, so thoughts on that so Okay On the one hand Do I believe that being a jackass online should have real-world consequences? Consequences when you are and if you really break it down when you are effectively Wasting someone else's money you are robbing them of enjoying something that they paid for no You're not stealing it from them. You're not like stealing their game, but let's say for example someone Bought a TV and they brought it home And they put it in their living room and they wanted to please don't ride a bicycle in the warehouse Of everything that is good Why do I have to say these things safety meeting safety meeting yeah safety safety meetings okay first Monday of every month Like I actually have to do that by law speaking of laws safety meetings anyway What am I even talking about okay? Okay? So I I see it as akin to someone your neighbor buying a brand new cool TV, and he goes to watch Breaking bad or something on it, and you go over you you barge into his house, and you stand in front of it you go And you get all like cross-eyed and obnoxious Because you haven't taken his TV But you're depriving him of enjoying it and something Yeah, so I think being an asshat should have real consequences Consequences when it impacts the lives and the quality of life of other people on the flip side government backing of eulahs Well, this isn't even that this is much more than government backing of a eulah because if you violate a eulah Let's say you're playing over watch or Starcraft or whatever you do something violates the TOS if so at least in the u.s. if and I'm sure South Korea their civil remedies in South Korea too, but you go to court and You say oh well this person violated the TOS. That's why we kicked him off and now there's litigation about it But that's your usual remedy. It's a contract remedy you can kick people off for violating the TOT So in that sense there already is government backing But we're not just now they're taking out of the realm of private law and civil courts And we're saying we're going to come like like law enforcement will come after you and you can go to jail which is just right Completely other completely different level right and we're talking again. We're talking about you know Going to you know so presumably this is this is another gamer Maybe even a gamer you know so let's say your buddies, and you're being a jerk and using an aimbot or whatever else so this is akin to you being at your buddy's house going in front of the TV and Him calling the cops and them not just saying yo leave but them Arresting you what was it a five-year sentence potentially up to five years putting you in jail for up to five years And finding you the equivalent of like 45 US thousand dollars Yeah, so so So do you take it to the real world being a jerk? Example you can see how this is the wrong way to behave and there should be consequences But you can also see how given the you know would you say my my example is fairly parallel. It's yeah It's good I mean it's I was actually having a conversation about an unrelated issue With someone earlier today about this that there's plenty of things that are frankly just dick moves in society But that we don't criminalize you know That's right We say this is bad and there might be some consequence for this But we're not going to necessarily chuck you in a jail cell for it. That's right I mean, there's there's a lot of stuff that is you know Public urination, okay, well that actually is against the law It is against the law, but they but they throw you in the drunk tank for overnight or whatever and they let you out But but it's not a five-year sentence sometimes some places put you on the sex offense registry for that So you're in there with like the child molesters Okay, maybe public urination is that I understand what you're trying to say though, okay, let's talk about like graffiti then okay So graffiti is a similar you are not you are not making it so someone's building doesn't function anymore Yeah, it's just not a nice thing to do you're wasting their time and potentially wasting their money property values will go down to which is Yeah, exactly exactly what we're talking about you're wasting someone's time and money, so is it criminal yes? But does it get a five-year jail term potentially no? With that said do you think a big part of the reason why they might have such a high? Maximum is not because they necessarily intend to enforce that kind of thing for someone who? installs an aimbot and pwn some noobs or whatever my guess for someone who's creating an enterprise Yeah, yeah, I mean my guess is that some person who's just doing something they think is a joke They wouldn't get that they probably I also read that this was an amendment to something so maybe there's some other stuff That's punishable by a max five years that would be more serious I mean I don't I know extremely little about how low in South Korea works, but It reminds me of a case a couple years ago in Georgia Where I think there it was I think it was a comp sci student at Georgia Tech And they had just beaten the University of Georgia, which is like one of their big rivals I think in the football game and he hacked into UGA's Computer system and put and just change put something funny on like one of their like university web pages It wasn't anything super malicious But he got charged criminally for that and taken in front of a judge and it kind of blew up because I think he was Facing five or ten years in prison like a max for that, but of course he didn't get that the judge was just like That wasn't good. Don't do that again. They put him in like some sort of diversion program, and it was okay, but As far as so this is probably something kind of similar But I guess if it is bad enough if you're running some sort of huge enterprise, then maybe they could come down on you so Very interesting very very interesting mm-hmm, and there's also the The small matter of their president being mired in like impeachment proceedings now, too So I don't know how does if that would affect anything, but there you are All right our next topic Ubisoft executives find 1.2 million euros for insider trading during Watch watch dogs. It's funny. Isn't it funny that it's called watch dogs Is anyone else gonna kick out of this um they should they should have called the sequel whistleblowers Speaking of you know what no never mind I was about to say something political and now I'm not going to but I don't know it was it was I was gonna poke fun At Hillary for a change, so do you think do you think I'm evening out my karma well? One no, but I think the more obvious target is Martha Stewart even though she's not a politician Oh, no, I was I was gonna poke fun at Hillary's whole We should we need to come down on fake news fake news reporting thing I'm not even gonna touch that because If you offer an opinion on fake news worry one way or another it immediately becomes political So I'm not gonna touch it, but I if this does remind me of the joke they made on South Park Martha Stewart living with an electronic ankle bracelet Yes, yes, yes, but anyway yeah All right, so basically getting back to our getting back to our watchdog story here in mid-november a French finance regulator Has accused had accused five Ubisoft executives of insider trading back in 2014 including the head of Ubisoft Montreal so the Autorité des Marches Financiers And down the fine earlier today Ubisoft has told Kotaku that the publisher will be appealing the judgment They believe those involved didn't intentionally commit any crime So the AMF is specifically accusing those execs of having prior knowledge of the watchdogs delay and then turning to Prior knowledge of the watchdogs delay and then taking advantage of that privileged information To sell their shares before the value dropped I sure as hell would have sold my shares before Watch dogs came out. Oh good lord I'm glad I don't didn't own any Ubisoft shares, and I didn't know it was gonna be delayed and it was gonna be a terrible port because Yeah, then I could be in trouble right now so the delay announcement caused Ubisoft shares to drop 25% in value back in 2014 Ubisoft is arguing that due to the processes and timetables involved in game development those involved couldn't have known about the delay at the time that they sold shares Which to which I would say okay, maybe I don't run a major game developer, but To say that at any stage in a project an executive wouldn't have any ability to find out if You know we're somewhat on track or if we're gonna be and how late was watchdogs again? I don't remember how late it was it was like really late It was really late and really unfinished in a lot of ways which is another indicator that They were more late than even they ended up being So to say that you know I would have no way of knowing At an early stage in the pipeline of production of a video project of ours whether it's going to be delayed is just kind of asinine This just seems like some butt covering because insider trading is sort of a big deal And based on the 1.2 million euro fine apparently others agree so there's that That's not a small amount of euros. That's many euros. That's many euros That's over 1 million euros Okay so here is some bad news for Pebble owners specifically and smartwatch enthusiasts in general If there was any doubt left in your mind that the smartwatch market hasn't taken off the way that Smartwatch makers would have liked to believe that it was going to then this pretty much seals it Fitbit formally announces that it is buying smartwatch maker Pebble Rumored to be something to the tune of a 40 million dollar acquisition Making it about 15 million more than Casey Neistat's beam And Casey Neistat So there you go in the few years that you existed Pebble you at least managed to achieve a higher valuation than Casey Neistat One person I'm disappointed. I'm actually disappointed in a lot of things. I'm disappointed in the way that Smartwatches haven't taken off the way that I'd like A more vibrant marketplace means more choice more options more development And right now like there are certain like my wife wants a new smartwatch She's actually running a Pebble time. No Pebble time Original Pebble Pebble time I think Don't look at me She's running a Pebble time I'm pretty sure The one with the color E Ink display the first the plastic one though not the steel And she really likes it, but it's not particularly feminine And so she's been asking me to find her out like a really functional like a women's smartwatch Yeah, smartwatch and the Apple watch is great if you like the iPhone But my wife doesn't like the iPhone and right now there are not a ton of great options out there And one of the things that Pebble was doing differently is they weren't building on Android wear So it was actually legitimately different and it was a pretty good experience on both Android and iOS At least the last time that I tried it The other thing I'm disappointed in is how this whole thing is is going down with respect to supporting Pebbles existing customers So let me just see here we go So Fitbit acquired the technology but they are not acquiring the hardware products So what that effectively means is Pebble is right now effective like immediately when they announced this December 7th 2016 They're no longer promoting manufacturing or selling any devices They'll continue to work as normal No immediate changes to the Pebble user experience But and this is the next bullet point Pebble functionality or service quality may be reduced in the future So basically what that means is there will be absolutely zero ongoing development So Android, you know, what's Oreo or you know, whatever what else is O? Oh deserts Oregano? Oregano? I wasn't listening to most of what you guys just said I was going to say creme brulee but that doesn't start with an O You guys are both awful I like creme brulee That's not the point I contribute Oreo He comes up with oregano which is the right letter but a spice And you come up with creme brulee which I don't think has a single O in it No it doesn't An O dessert? Huh That's a really good question Orange something you could go orange creamsicle Orange creamsicle? Orange creamsicle is orange by definition There are cream soda and lime flavored ones that are pink and green But do you have to append that and if you just say creamsicle by itself isn't it understood to be the orange variety? That is a wonderful question one that I'm sure no one in our audience cares to know the answer of And if they did they would Google it and post it in Twitch chat Wow, rude No one probably will, no no I was discussing it too Orange sorbet there you go Orange sorbet, just putting orange in it is kind of cheating though Alright so anyway kickstarter backers who haven't received their rewards will get a full refund It may take up to 10 business days blah blah blah Orders including Pebble 2 preorders which have not been charged are no longer being accepted Warranty support gone Warranty support no longer available for Pebble watches This is a crap move and Fitbit you guys are not very nice people for doing this Because what nice companies do when they acquire a business is they provide warranty support And honestly it's something that wouldn't have been that hard to do Pebble has existing inventory presumably that they are not selling anymore All you have to do is allocate a little bit of your customer care like a little hidden part of the website somewhere And a little corner of your warehouse to Pebble stuff and kind of go okay We'll provide warranty support for X amount of time or until all the Pebble products are gone We'll do our best, we'll provide 90 days or whatever the case may be Toshiba when they acquired OCZ they continued to offer warranty support for the EOL OCZ products It's in my opinion the right thing to do Yeah because at that point it's your product That's right Except that they didn't acquire the hardware products So I think that's just pretty crappy And if you want any third party accessories then you can buy them on like Amazon or Gadgetwraps or whatever the case may be So really don't like the way they handled this And I'm really not sure what else to say about it Apparently jobs were offered mostly to software engineers at Pebble Pebble founder and CEO will not be staying on with Fitbit after the acquisition Basically it's largely a grab for Pebble software assets and platform Bummer Hope your Pebble doesn't break Fitbit will at least maintain services so that existing Pebble devices continue to work as normal But continue to work as normal is sort of a meaningless thing to say because what's as normal The normal will change as Oreos and Parfaits and whatever the case may be come out on the Android side of things Yeah think of it as Q Dessert Do they make dessert quiche? Is that a thing? Or do they all just savoury like with the cheese and stuff? I don't know if anyone makes dessert quiche Well think of another Q Dessert then because I got nothing Can you mix quinoa with sugar? That sounds disgusting but That sounds awful Speaking of things that sound not awful Squarespace That's right Squarespace doesn't sound like much of anything Really? What does Squarespace sound like to you? It sounds like It reminds me of like a cubicle that you work in because it's square and it's a space that you work in I was going to say it sounds like where the cool kids hang out Which is kind of the same thing I guess Where it's like the square space and get totally lit and yellow and stuff I don't know So what Squarespace actually is is a platform for building your very own website Whether it's for you personally you want to put up like a portfolio or a blog Or whether it's for like your sports team that you coach on weekends and you got saddled with like What I have to create the website for the team? I don't know a bloody thing about website creation Squarespace makes it easy because their templates all I can't remember how many they have It's like a couple dozen All of their templates are easy to use and look great Not just on a square shaped screen But also on a rectangular screen Square, rectangle They should call it like Quadrilateral space Yes, quadrilateral space I've never actually tried to run a Squarespace site on a circular display but now I'm tempted Hey, you have your some of the smartwatch faces are circular not that one. Not this one. Yeah. Well, okay So we're gonna put a pin in that one for now, but basically every website comes with a free online store they've got their cover pages feature that allows you to build a one pager in like minutes and Everyone can now publish content in Apple News format directly from their Squarespace blog module making it available to millions of potential readers That's not to say that anyone will actually necessarily care about what you're posting in your blog But if they did they would have a super convenient way to access it So you can start a trial with no credit card required and start building your website today and when you do Oh, wait You should I didn't think we were supposed to say that anymore Offer code land to get 10% off Maybe I'm wrong. I thought we had a directive not to say you shouldn't You are officially not as good of a Luke as Luke. Sorry. 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So that's great They actually this is probably one of the coolest things they have they have a line of silver underwear and shirts that are naturally Anti microbial which means they help to eliminate odor That's what that's what actually stinks like when you sweat it's like like a bacterial Culture that like gets going and gets embedded in the fabrics. This is an interesting story I wish okay, so Mac Weldon will probably watch this spot, which is great So guys, I have a product request because I recently had to buy special Laundry like washing machine detergent for Clothing that I own that had become so Like permeated with work like a regular wash. It would just still stink workout stink No, well, no not it wouldn't stink But what would happen with a lot of my workout clothes was they would smell fine when they're dry And then the second I sweat in them again, it smells like I never washed them at all It's got like that that rank kind of like Like painful when you inhale it kind of it's embarrassing because I'm on a badminton court, right? So I'm like moving around and people are like are like lunging through my stink with you know zone thing Anyway, it's gross So if they could do like like track pants and stuff with the silver infusion, that would be super cool Anyway, I'm sorry. I got kind of no I can confirm this still like springtime fresh right now So under shirt, that's good. If anything more of the same would be great and they want you to be comfortable So if you don't like your first pair you can keep it and they'll still refund you no questions asked So head over to Mac Weldon comm and use offer code tech tips to save 20% Do I have to say something this time about oh no, no, it's fine. I gave up on you your lost cause Oh, so oh, so you're giving me a preview of my employee review next week. Okay Awesome. At least I know at least you do. I hate to surprise you All right, so Tom's has been hard at work Benchmarking the snot out of the upcoming Kaby Lake I7 7700 K So we've got some excerpts here But obviously if you want to see the full numbers Then you should definitely go and check out their review over at Tom's Hardware comm But there you go. It's a little bit faster in terms of maximum overclocking speed Than the 6700 K on the same board So they don't have Z2 70 boards yet So we don't know if that'll make much of a difference but traditionally it hasn't really done a whole heck of a lot Moving on power consumption is Really? Is it that much higher? Wow, then okay. I haven't actually read the review. So that's um, that is not a small Delta there Interestingly overclocking it from 4.2 to 4.8 gigahertz doesn't make much of a difference 15 15 watts but like here they're pretty close at stock speed It's a pretty big difference. Yeah, and then finally here's all the rumored I guess sort of rumored I mean Intel's roadmaps are not exactly rocket science to figure out Once again, we're gonna get two case cues. Once again, they're gonna be like a little bit better than or worse than the other And they will be overclockable Once again, we are maxing out at four cores and you're gonna get you know hyper threading for eight threads on the I7s And you know what's really great about all of this for me? What's really great about all of this for you Linus? What is great about this for me is that this video From Tech quickie The most viewed video ever on tech quickie coming up close to the most viewed video I have ever been involved in I think this is my second most viewed video of all time the fire truck Fire truck I believe is still ahead of it. Yes. Thank you for bringing that up Is still valid One two and a half. Yeah, wait one and a half. Hold on. Yes That's two and a half years later where I explain that core I threes have two threads with hyper threading and core I fives have four cores with no hyper threading and core I sevens have four cores With hyper threading or they have more cores up to I think the one thing that's now wrong is the up to how many cores an I7 can have Because I believe it was either six or eight at the time and now it's 10 but but I mean hey Consistency and branding is very important. Yes. There you go. So thank you Intel for Maintaining the status quo for the last two and a half years. So my video can continue to be a rock star Even though the comments under it are astonishingly cancerous. It's funny anytime a video of ours goes outside of our core viewer base It is amazing how quickly the the the the like hate comes back It's not really that surprising though Honestly, not a good class of classifications There are several I five processors out there that out free free form the I7 boring dumb video from a guy who looks like he have He have fake teeth. Yep This vid looks like deeply giant pleasant Jina pleasant like I'm not even trying Linus tech tips ripoff. Oh, it's Linus. Oh Okay, very cool info we got that by the way Linus It's Jake. It's not jigger hurts its gigahertz. Also, I can't believe that after the two-minute mark Do you really start explaining the actual topic? This could have been done a lot better Apparently I'm looking dandy as if this guy kind of talks like Popeye You talk absolutely nothing like Popeye. No, I talk nothing nothing like Popeye Yeah, so there's that Pause this video anywhere and it looks like he's taking it up the bum. Well, let's see Let's try there's only one way to know for sure if that random person on the internet is right. I Mean it's probably possible. I believe everything are we don't all right? Okay We said that you just have to No, no, not very good. So There oh, okay. Yeah there I'd say You look very normal in like the the full two seconds before that and that's the one you've heard about 75% Yes still, okay Okay Hmm Yeah, all right. Well, I gotta I gotta give it to random people. I'm not sure if I'm gonna be able to do that Well, I gotta I gotta give it to random internet comment or number number seven there Okay, oh so I have As long as okay for if we're done making like Jokes about butt stuff. I have heard a rumor of an unclogged case You of a core i3? I'm not sure if they've that's been confirmed But just keep a lookout for that for an unlocks core i3 like like an i3 whatever They did the Pentium anniversary edition before. Yes Yeah, yeah, so that would be that would be pretty cool. So alright, I am about to win another bet So I won my Trump will win the election bet and I am about to win that Oh, it was that other guy. So yeah, yeah He looked at me so no no. Yeah, and I'm about to win my bet about the iCar that I made Probably about eight or nine years ago because I was like How can Apple continue to increase a SP's their laptops already cost as much as a decent car? Maybe they'll just sell cars. I was at Tim Hortons with my camera guy back at NCIX and I was like They're gonna do a car and he was like no and then my prediction beyond car was house They're going to do like templatized houses that are all basically the same and if this house is good enough for Tim Cook It's good enough for you. They might have like like an iHouse and an iHouse plus So two different sizes and I think that they are going to fully integrate They're basically controllers that they've managed to hypnotize half the freaking population into carrying around so they're going to take these and they're going to integrate them with your self-driving car and with your autumn autonomous house and the whole thing is going to work together like Billy Oh and Damn, well, you're gonna like it. So yes Just sign it out loaned out You have a system for these things the iHouse plus would have a basement but the mortgage would be twice as much The fab yeah, I think so I'm not sure someone handed it to me Oh That makes sense because we have trouble finding things sometimes in my office. Yeah, sorry. I didn't know it was signed up to you the System sort of works anyway So Apple has acknowledged for the first time that they are investing in self-driving car tech in a letter to us transport regulators Apple said it was excited about the potential of Automated systems in many areas including transportation adding there were significant societal benefits of automated vehicles to be realized Apple has registered several car-related Internet domains including Apple dot car and Apple dot auto We have an Apple auto glass here. I wonder if they're gonna have to change their name Company spokesperson for Apple said the letter to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration was prompted by its heavy investment in machine learning and autonomous systems that I wanted to help define the best practices in the industry the five page letter including written by blah blah blah etc. etc. etc. Whatever I was right. We're all gonna find out I was right and it's gonna be great. I'm gonna be happy you sound like a radio disclaimer Yeah, sorry about that. Okay, Nostra Linus. You have any other predictions about Apple for us? Alex goes hi posted on the forum. Oh, I guess not Windows is coming back to arm Yeah, these are my arms. Let's see your arms No Windows is coming back this time with 32-bit x86 compatibility, which is like not good enough, but Is a lot closer to where it needs to be So this is not the first time that Microsoft has been capable of running Windows on an arm-based machine in fact Those of you who were around when it happened the surface RT was an arm powered Windows Microsoft Surface tablet It was or two-in-one technically I guess but it was not a great experience. It was a It wasn't it was just called Windows RT. Like it wasn't surface RT. Well, yeah, but it was it wasn't a direct Oh the OS was Windows RT. Yeah, that's what I said. So sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I was sorry I was talking about surface RT. Yeah running Windows RT Which I they have but they had to change I think the code base because it was arm. Is that right or so? Yeah, so basically it was based on Windows 8 But it could run on arm and they ported Microsoft Office and in fact they Couldn't even sell surface RT's with an included copy of Microsoft Office Like not a trial like they actually included the full office suite that you could use on it And it still wasn't enough to make people Get into it because it couldn't run regular x86 applications meaning Why am I running Windows at all? You're just limited to like maybe some things you could find in the Windows store and a few other things So this is new Microsoft demos Photoshop running on a Snapdragon 820 Very freaking cool. So this was at the winhc hardware conference in Shenzhen And they announced a range of hardware driven initiatives to modernize the PC and address two big goals Expanded support for mixed reality and to produce a range of ever more efficient Mobile always connected PCs powered by arm processors. So Qualcomm powered Windows 10 PCs will hit the market in 2017 with a full desktop Windows 10 variant coming to arm There will be a 64-bit version running on Qualcomm's latest and greatest processors So presumably the Snapdragon 835 and the way that Microsoft describes it It will offer a full Windows experience with the ability to run not only on the same computer But the ability to run not only universal Windows platform apps from the store But regular Win32 desktop applications. It'll include built-in emulation for 32-bit x86 applications And the emulation will be used only for application code the OS itself and all system libraries will be native 64-bit arm binaries Pretty freaking cool. So actually no I had misunderstood an earlier part of the note. So no, this is the bomb so Wow, how far along like do you think the snapdragon 820 is because the reason I'm asking is you talk about the photoshop demo which sounds Extremely impressive and it might be but I do know that there are um, there are versions of I think photoshop I think they had them for like Chromebooks or something where it part of it was cloud processing So it I wonder if it's maybe partially the same thing here. It might not be I don't know. I doubt it I suspect you could and I I think we're gonna see more of a move towards offloading processing to the cloud at some point But right now it sounds like it's just running natively on the device. I mean if you're intel right now What are you thinking well, um, let's see it was so it's um, let's see it's You're saying a full desktop variant coming to arm. So I mean how many things how many You know sffpcs are we or tablets? Are we going to see? Necessarily running this, you know, it could be a lot But is there anything to indicate everyone's just going to pick this up pretty quickly or here's my indication that people are going to pick this up Really quickly the iphone 7 Already in some benchmarks performs similarly to the apple macbook 2015 I Have a scraper. Thank you. I've got a scraper too. Yeah. Thank you edsel. It's snowing outside so already in some benchmarks apple has caught up to the Throttled down performance that you can get out of a very low power intel processor and already customers buying running out and buying the apple macbook 2015 have Validated that this performance is acceptable for their use So with hardware offloading of let's say Hevc video decode like some some key video decoding and You know what what else would make it an optimal media consumption device? Let's say the storage controller is still sophisticated enough that you have fast storage performance So webpage loading is really snappy all that kind of stuff. That wouldn't be that hard to do Yeah, is there any reason for a basic? Let's say a chromebook like experience, but on windows or a macbook like experience That you wouldn't say okay Yeah No I know a lot of people who would be totally down for that in a sleek device that lasts for like freaking 18 to 30 hours on battery or whatever the case may be the only thing that I would think of is if you need to run something a little bit more specialized because although like you know this arm processor Might be awesome, but it's still Reduced instruction set so there are still going to be things that you can't do It's not it might not even be a question of performance It might it might be a question of is there there is thing I need to run can I even run it at all? But so they're emulating that yeah, which means it could be dog slow. Yeah, but it should Should TM should run I feel like for Mainstream you're part of the expression of mainstream usage. It would it might be as good as you're saying so yeah Sheesh that is That is that is pretty exciting speaking of pretty exciting I like flipped out when I saw this some erg posted on the forum. Thank you for that the original article here is from polygon Wow Nintendo debuted the switch with Jimmy Fallon and And it's actually a great video It's NBC, so I suspect oh wow it's playing. I'm surprised normally Normally NBC stuff I've had I've had trouble with it ends up region lock so I'm just gonna. I'm gonna go ahead and pause it We're not gonna play the whole thing, but basically oh this isn't even the same Where is it hold on where is it? Where does he reveal it? Here we go here. We go here. We go so it's under it's under thing Jimmy Fallon Freaks out. I mean half of it seems to be playing it up for the camera, but that's his job So I'm not gonna criticize him too hard, but there it is actual switch hardware Holy freaking crap you fast forward a little bit there. It is actually the next generation Zelda game I'll give Fallon this he either is legitimately a Nintendo Zelda fan or he really did his research He did a great job of the spot talking about like he pulled out of his hat You know quotes from interviews with Shigeru Miyamoto Like how he had talked about why it was open world and this and that so he was either very well prepared or Or he's legit like a Zelda geek they showed it running in switch mode Which is really really impressive to anyone who hasn't already seen an Nvidia Shield portable or shield tablet And Yeah, it looks pretty bananas. There's still a few things. I need to know about it I gotta know how much it weighs before I'm willing to accept this as a mobile gaming system I want to know what those thumbsticks feel like but Nintendo has traditionally been pretty good about this Yeah, have you seen this video? I haven't seen it yet. Okay. I will say just about your comment about the gamepad the Wii U which which my wife well my wife and I have a Wii U and It's it's the gamepad is much much lighter than it looks. So, okay. Yeah, it's worth it Just for Mario Kart 8 but actually that brings me to another question Do you know if the switch is going to have any launch exclusives? Or is it just going to run Wii U games at first? I actually don't know what I heard was that Yeah, what I heard was that Zelda Breath of the Wild was gonna launch for Wii U first and Then you were gonna be able to play it on switch as well once that launches but I could be wrong about that I haven't been following that closely. The last Zelda game I played was Twilight Princess. So I'm sorry I've let down I've let down everybody I have let an entire console generation pass me by since I have played through an entire Zelda game Can you believe Twilight Princess was 10 years ago? Time flies like I was playing Wii Sports with my son The original Wii Sports? Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. Well, I my optical drive died So I actually replaced it was like 30 bucks or 40 bucks or something like that So I replaced it cuz I was like, I mean, I actually invested pretty heavily in the Wii like I have four nunchucks I have four Wiimotes. I have two classic controllers Like I've got a couple of like steering wheel add-ons like I've actually got a bunch of crap for it Do you have the Wii Fit fitness pad? I used to My wife got it and she didn't use it I have a friend that also got one and it just sat in the corner collecting dust So amazing how that happens. We actually did manage to sell it So not for what we paid for it, but you know, anyway, the point is that I've invested kind of heavily in the Wii and I was kind of thinking, you know, let's not lose it Not like it's not like it's not a novel gaming experience if you've never seen it before It's the definition of novel. My son loves it. It's like can we play Wii tennis? Yeah, sure. Why not? Um, what else we got here today? Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah Blah blah blah blah blah blah Ah, Samsung may permanently disable Galaxy Note 7 phones in the US as soon as next week Original article from The Verge Apparently they've gotten back about 90% of the devices But that means there are literally tens of thousands of people out there who still have not returned their Note 7s The time to do it is now because they are actually going to brick your device You've already had like almost, October, November, almost three months to deal with it Deal with it. They're going to modify the software to prevent it from charging The phone will no longer work so stop fooling around There's another rumor here. This one was posted by Good To Foo Friday I don't know whatever. It was posted by a guy on the forum Uh, rumor has it the Galaxy S8 is not going to feature a 3.5mm headphone jack It looks like the dominoes have already begun to fall I will talk about this a little bit So I've actually been using the iPhone 7 as a daily driver for almost a month now For the last little bit here Reason being that I've been working on my MacBook Pro review Which I was supposed to shoot today but didn't but is fully written so we'll deal with that next week And I wanted to immerse myself in the Apple ecosystem And so that combined with my time spent actually reviewing the device I have a more firm impression of what I think of the whole dongle culture Apple being a dongle company that happens to make other stuff now? That we're heading towards because it's not just Apple So Motorola already has their Z Force No headphone jack I forget who it is. It's one of the Xiaomi or one of the Chinese companies That's had a phone without a headphone jack for quite some time And I'll say this Other than one specific use case which I have found very frustrating So I actually sleep with my headphones in And charge and play at the same time With my phone playing in my ears It helps me stay sleeping when the baby cries at night Because I have to work in the morning, my wife deals with her at night Other than that, which has been very frustrating Which is about a $10 solution If you just buy a dongle It hasn't really bothered me And this is as someone who doesn't use Bluetooth headphones I just, with that said I only recently started carrying my earphones around in a carrying case So now that I have a carrying case It's not a lot of extra effort to have a dongle in there for when I'm using the iPhone But if I wasn't still using a carrying case And I was just throwing my headphones in my pocket still It would bother me But as it is, honestly it really just hasn't been that big of a deal You're so organized Linus Well, you have to be when companies don't put ports on their products I mean it's the same reason that I carry a dongle for my razor blade The second it didn't have ethernet I was like Well, I'm carrying a dongle forever now And maybe I've just gotten used to it Maybe we're all just going to get used to spending another $100 on the adapters that we need In order to get the functionality that our products really could have had in the first place If we were willing to compromise a little bit on their thinness and lightness But I'm not bitter If I sound bitter It's because I'm not doing a good job of faking that I'm not a little bit bitter Thinner and lighter Oh, it's a good thing Luke isn't on the show Because it means we can cover this really quickly Originally posted by Gao Ren on the forum Wow After the Blizzard shutdown, legacy World of Warcraft server returns this month The Nostalrius team no longer waiting for Blizzard helps to launch the spiritual successor And we've talked plenty about Nostalrius on this show So we're going to call that pretty much good for today AT&T took off up $88 million for cramming mobile customer bills Original article here is from NetworkWorld.com O-U-A-T-N-T Some 2.7 million AT&T customers will share $88 million in compensation For having had unauthorized third party changes added to their mobile bills The FTC announced December 8th These refunds will represent the most money ever recouped by victims of what is known as Mobile cramming according to the FTC So everyone gets like $35 or something Awesome I think it's a little more than that I'm going to pull out the calculator $88 divided by 2.7 $32 So you were right Good work $32! You're welcome I guess you can go to like a prime time movie and get like one of the big drinks or something I don't know Yeah That would work One big drink I'd actually rather get the popcorn because if you drink the whole big drink then you have to like go to the bathroom like in the middle of the movie Which is bad Terrible It's awful It's terrible Like that's the thing about movies is like it's almost like they're timed so that during the climax you're going to have to go pee And you can't enjoy it This is why I do not spend money on beverages usually at the movies Not only are they overpriced but they will detract from your movie watching experience at some point And if it's something like James Bond where if you miss like one little bit you miss the whole thing then forget it This is why I wear a bag on my leg You have the stadium pal where you just carry your urine around strapped to your leg I mean is it really any different from carrying your urine around inside your bladder? Yes because it's outside of your body and it doesn't make a distracting schluck schluck sound every time you take a step Do you hate people who wear stadium pals? Is this a thing? Do you hate these people? I don't hate those people I just think they should go home and rethink their lives Alright so on that note thank you for tuning into the WAN Show We will see you guys again next week same bat time same bat channel Stay tuned for the broken outro Yep that's broken alright Are we doing after porn? We never do anymore because we do the set It used to be that we filmed before the end of the day if I recall correctly but now we don't I actually don't remember when the WAN Show broadcast time changed but it just kind of happened Someone please make a clip of the butt sex scene Oh that thing where the guy says Yeah no no I know what it is Someone's asking why we didn't talk about relive Radion relive capture stream and share your greatest moments and gaming wins with radion relive Quickly conveniently and play seamlessly with the something something there now we talked about it Up to 3% impact on frames per second Major streaming platforms in app toolbar which is just as awful as Nvidia's by the look of things I can't believe Nvidia's redesign of their stupid shadow play settings thing where it's like these ginormous buttons in the middle of the screen instead of sensible toggles Custom overlay features and details lots of different encoding support including 2160p30 that's pretty sexy on the 470n app Cool there you go now we did you're welcome Bye