 about no well we're live now yeah if you want to ask me if we're talking about it then I guess we're pretty much talking about it no we're not no no we're not oh what what is it well I can't what no you can't we're live now you can't tease me like that you can't be like hey are we gonna talk about and then just they're here it's embarrassing oh like that yeah I actually have no idea what you're talking about we're gonna have a great show this week yeah it might not be the WAN show but like somewhere someone will have a great show I'm looking at the show on my laptop and it looks so oversaturated the problem is that we're using a gaming monitor our color calibration that's our issue that's where we're running into trouble here so we've been so first of all first of all our camera people came in and cranked a blackmagic cinema camera to 1600 ISO so it basically properly lit room my shirt just looked like it looked like a bunch of like little bugs crawling around on my shirt because of all the noise so much and then we tried to fix it ourselves which resulted in the visual feast in front of you today it's very saturated feast so that's that that's where we're at on this all right what do we what do we got for topics is there anything worth listening to or should people just tune out now no they should definitely stay tuned there's there's a couple things that I think will be relatively interesting the first topic I don't think is that interesting there's a there's an LG giveaway that we can talk about yeah you can get some LG stuff that's cool actually you can get a whole gaming slash workstation machine should we just do that now sure okay so last chance to enter the hive mind PC giveaway sponsored by LG the winner gets a PC with an estimated value of about $2,000 depending on which parts the audience chose as a whole oh so it's like a voting thing okay you also get an LG 38 WK 95 C monitor so it's a 38 inch 38 40 by 1600 ultra wide so we're looking for ideas on how to spice up the build and the stream so I will be streaming the build of it live that's fun and then one lucky winner will get exactly that machine so it's worldwide with no age restriction how the heck are they doing that that doesn't that doesn't sound like something that big companies with legal departments normally do so here's a link in the twitch chat to where you guys can go check out the gleam IO information about it including Quebec I guess which never happens entries close at midnight Pacific tonight June 29th so don't miss it um what else we got g-sync HDR modules at $500 to the monitor price g-sync is expensive this and more breaking news I think we already knew g-sync normal modules were 300 bucks so the fact the price went up should not be super surprising great news great news YouTube experiments with custom thumbnails just coming in saving the day thank you again YouTube thank you thank you YouTube that was great I actually had a call with YouTube today and like out of respect for my partner manager I won't discuss any of the like specifics of my call because I am very appreciative that YouTube talks to me yeah because they are not always that communicative you'd be surprised if that's a relatively new thing yeah it's it's it's amazeballs but I will say that the tone of the call on my side was very grateful I'm grateful to YouTube and our Google overlords for making our job at float play media easier so much easier there's also rumors because you all know I love rumors of an i9 9900k I almost wish they went just for full full full gold and when i9 9999k well it'll be over 9000 that's fair um Nvidia's new nda requirement to get access to early hardware is this a giant scandal oh my goodness a mountain being made out of a molehill not even a molehill more on this at 11 it's like one spec of dirt no at 11 okay uh no that's it I'm rolling the intro 11 did you see this I haven't actually it's actually like exactly what I wanted to make remember I was telling you oh really it's literally it okay well we'll have to check that out then how do I get into the dashboard I use twitch so little and their settings menus are garbled where's the chat I love you twitch but your settings menus are I just want to chat oh right oh I forgot to whoops so Luke doesn't technically work here but you're gonna be at LTX right yeah Luke will be at LTX because Luke also technically does do things here sometimes yeah so you have a video coming soon I do like actually soon now and not just like me hosting a video and like pulling Luke into it for like color commentary like Luke is is hosting uh the Nintendo Labo video the latest possible no one cares anymore about it but these are the reasons why people should have cared Nintendo Labo video that's quite a sales pitch all right so what basically the whole internet is wrong about Labo and Nintendo now you're getting back into the clickbait spirit I knew you had it in you yeah um so let's jump into our first topic this was posted by Wanatology um the the study of people named Wan I guess Wanatology over on the forum uh the original article here is from Tech Power Up NVIDIA's G-Sync HDR module is this was just working I you saw me test this I actually didn't but I believe you no I know you've got it on Luke's I know but that's the one that was there we go okay did you try unplugging it and plugging it back in yes yes I have oh oh no never mind okay you're right thanks bye like half of my calls to tech support ever really uh it's happened maybe not half I don't call tech support that much that's fair um but if we're going back to like when I would call tech support as a teenager if we're talking about ever I have definitely made my fair share of have you tried I've told you I must have told you my EVGA call story right okay you know what we're gonna get back to this G-Sync HDR module have I told you that one before with the mineral computer I'm not actually sure I don't think so we'll get through part way and I'm sure there's people here that haven't heard it you'll probably remember because I must have told you at some point the only time I've ever contacted customer support from any computer hardware company ever was EVGA and one time I've never had to outside of that everything's always worked or it's been like clearly my fault because my hand was covered in oil and I dropped a hard drive that is not Mac store that was the brand of the hard drives fault because I it hit the ground it's my fault anyway took it and threw it on yeah okay pretty much you know where that's going I was everyone knows about my mineral computer if you don't uh there's there's videos of it on the channel you should check it out it's it's actually a really funny video in the end but yeah when I was building it uh I'm like 12 hours into this build and it's taken me forever it's the first time I've ever built a mineral computer I'm doing a lot of things for the first time it's actually only it's probably like the low double digits of times I've built a computer at all at this point right and I'm trying to build a mineral one um I go through a lot of hardships including realizing that due to the fish rocks that I put in the bottom of the fish tank my power supply would no longer fit because I did all the sizing based on no fish rocks being there and it was like really hard to clear a spot for it blah blah blah blah so I unscrewed the casing on the power supply figured out that it was like a wrapped setup so it was screwed on one side but it wasn't like two completely separate metal panels so I had to like tear off the metal that was there and I ended up only having like little like wire cutters so I was able to just get a tiny little snippet and then I had to literally rip the metal in half I think you might be the king of wrong tools for the job yeah anyways I got it it that's why there's like a jagged edge on one part of that power so Luke needs a condom which you know goes to the dollar store finds a balloon and it's like well this end looks big enough surely the other one will stretch oh my god um but I get the power supply ripped and it fits now and that power supply still works actually I've used it recently which is hilarious um it's actually pretty old I'm really surprised it still works yeah uh everything fits I get all the oil in and I've turned it on I did the old thing you turn the computer on before you put it in the case which is good yeah I did that and it worked fine then I submerged it press the power button nothing happened and I just freaked out because I'm a kid I don't have enough money to buy these components again right no one's going to give me a return on oil soaked components they sure won't it's not going to happen so I'm like try that sometimes but sorry carry on I I have no idea what's going on I'm freaking out it's really early in the morning for whatever I have an EVGA motherboard for whatever reason I was like I'm gonna call EVGA tech support I don't know why I picked that component yeah because it could have been anything that was I have no idea yeah I just was like I need to call someone and the dude on the phone was like really calm and really patient I felt like I was calling 911 um hello computer enthusiasts please state your emergency and I start trying to explain what's going on and like he finally eventually I don't know if he's heard of mineral cooling before at this point or not but uh he's like you know what what I'm gonna do I'm gonna add a note to your account saying that like if we get if we get any components in that have a little oil on it it's okay that was nuts he did that he actually did that and then he's like okay I want you to go through like taking it out and like reseating some of the components for me and he stayed on the freaking line the whole time and I put him on speaker and I reseated a whole bunch of components I put everything back in and it turned on and worked that was like the greatest customer support call I've ever had in my entire life and it was basically did you try unplugging it and plugging it back in yeah that was where we were going with this thank you that only took about 10 minutes but anyway that was just amazing that's that's I almost never have customer support calls but that was that was really fantastic no one's come close since then all right so let's jump over to this g-sync news um basically uh pc per disassembled their rg swift pg-27uq because those guys have balls of steel it's a two thousand dollar monitor and they found that the g-sync module is a newer version than the first generation g-sync monitors which I think we've known for like two years that new g-sync like faster g-sync was going to require a new module anyway the exact model of fpga is an area area anyway 10 gx 480 which is a high performance 20 nanometer soc that provides enough bandwidth and lvds pins in order to process this huge 4k 144 hertz data stream it is sold in low quantities for two thousand dollars for the fpga alone at digi key and mouser but assuming that nvidia buys thousands pc per is suggesting that the price of this chip alone will add 500 dollars to the monitor's bomb cost it is further increased by the three gigabytes of ddr4 memory on the module and the added licensing fees for g-sync so even just the three gigs like that stuff's expensive right now that stuff's really expensive right now so so here's the the bizarre thing about g-sync is that from the consumer standpoint i know a lot of people feel very strongly that nvidia should just adopt adaptive sync or free sync and just kind of get on board with the rest of the industry i mean they are now up against more than just amd like it used to be nvidia versus amd g-sync free sync and amd had a handful of partners that were that were rushing free sync monitors to market but now nvidia is up against a much larger tide in the industry as a whole samsung is going to be supporting free sync on upcoming tvs that to me is huge you combine that with the free sync support on the xbox and now it's like whoa whoa now hold on just a gosh darn minute whether you have a pc or whether you have a console if you want a game on a monitor or on a tv if you want all of those things and the ability to interconnect all of them free sync is the only solution on the market today it's probably going to stay that way and a lot of people are assuming that the only reason that nvidia would not adopt the industry standard solution is in order to make more money on their licensing but i'm kind of looking at this going like hold on a minute if there wasn't more to it than that why would nvidia pay somewhere in the neighborhood of 500 for these modules why would they why would they hurt the competitiveness of g-sync monitors available on the market if they didn't have to and then you go you go back again and you go now okay well hold on a second here g-sync on notebooks doesn't have this fpga so they found a way to do it with the embedded display port connection but not with the standard you know i think we haven't really done a guest in a long time i think this news merits asking tom peterson from nvidia to come on the show and explain why the actual ball sack they would spend all this money and lock variable refresh rate down to this proprietary solution if there isn't a compelling of their own products yeah because because imagine imagine that you're in video talking to lg or tcl or samsung you're talking to a major like panel and television manufacturer and you're going have i got a deal for you we're gonna have you take your existing scaler i know it's cheap but you know you're gonna throw that away okay you're gonna take our scaler which doesn't have all these fancy component inputs that people might need for their legacy devices it doesn't take six hdmi's in it's pretty basic we want you to spend five hundred dollars on it sound good why would they do that if they don't have to and then why would they go and put a bunch of ram on it if they don't have to is there okay so i've used free sync and aside from some of the limitations of the early monitors where the free sync range was not very helpful like it didn't go down low enough i don't personally notice a huge difference like is this the kind of thing where i have to pull out a phantom camera in order to see the difference in the way the monitors are refreshing is that something we should do we should we should talk to tom though okay if that's something we should do then sure but we could get what we should do from him okay all right all right i think giving tom a chance i'm gonna email him right now uh no no i'm emailing him right now can you guys come on our show and explain g-sync this is all in the subject line got a lot of our viewers i mean really this is me asking you guys don't seem that concerned got a lot of our viewers wondering why it needs uh two thousand dollar fpga and three gigs of ram he's legitimately doing this right now linus you know let's just seems to be asking for it right now thanks linus um okay linus so formal yeah you know what i'll throw in the thanks every once in a while i'll throw in the things it was still basically a one-liner yeah but it's kind of thanks you know it's tom tom's tom's i respect tom a lot by the way tom's tom's great super cool and it was the other person included in the email yeah yeah so if anyone can explain this to me i think our pr contact gets upset when i go straight to tom because tom is not technically pr or marketing or anything he's not technically like an outward facing position he's really good at it yeah he's like awesome so it's you know i really want to talk to tom about it because he can put something like we are spending five hundred dollars for lulls into a perspective that might make sense yeah because if there's anything i know about nvidia it's that they don't spend money unnecessarily all right let's jump into our next topic here uh this was posted by rubber puppy on the forum and i'd like to open this with a statement from the uh current coo of floatplane media yeah does floatplane media now or intend in the future to alter or um disfigure in any way the thumbnail that a creator would upload to the platform for their viewers no uh not only does that seem uh i'm trying to be pr happy right here not only does that seem stupid just drop the pr happiness uh that's not pr but that that literally just sounds like unnecessary work and we have a lot of other stuff to do so let's just let's jump over to my not only do i not get the point but it sounds like a bunch of work here's a post from rayo larcon garacia oh wow i'm not even you know forget forget that i ever tried um hello team youtube i would like to know why are not the thumbnails of the videos on my channel what happens is that all my videos had thumbnails and now they are no longer seen what a tremendous tremendous concern to have um this is good so to youtube's credit now going back to going back to being appreciative of youtube for a minute here to youtube's credit they replied yeah thank you team youtube that's actually surprising good job i'm not a super huge fan of their reply we are running a small experiment where 0.3 percent of viewers will see an auto-generated thumbnail instead of your custom thumbnail okay we're not removing the ability to create your custom thumbnail we're just not going to show it to some people we're doing this to gain insight on auto-generated thumbnails for the future something to consider too is 0.3 sounds automatically like oh absolutely tiny amount of people but it's freaking youtube so 0.3 is actually i have no idea but i'm assuming in the millions of people this is actually a lot of people it's not a lot in comparison to the entire whole of people that use youtube but it's a lot of people there's someone with like a research degree that's going after them super ham for for not doing this properly there's the comments on this twitter thread are are glorious i heard back from nvidia already they're saying it doesn't cost two thousand dollars so that's good we've we've confirmed now that they are indeed getting a volume discount which we assumed before um but uh i don't have any information other than that yeah we knew that so i'm just i just i've replied uh saying well okay yes but uh we like we still want to know yeah so just come talk to us about g-sync dude yeah they don't necessarily have to be that they should be happy anytime tom gets in front of people they like love nvidia more so they shouldn't yeah they shouldn't be afraid to put just come come flex your tech and we can that can be like part of it but we can talk about more things all right so there's so there's a couple things here number one i personally am of the mind that 0.3 percent is not that big of a deal even in the context of a channel that gets two million views a day which is where we're kind of sitting these days we're a little low right now so hold on per channel yeah but i mean users is a whole times point and that's not i don't i don't actually think views is the right way to do it okay they could be whale users but if it's no no no not a random distribution not even that because you're looking at people who it's going to come down to a choice decision and with how youtube's algorithm works right now if they don't click on your video it might not come back so you could be getting cut 0.3 percent of your users because now they're not clicking on it because it looks weird so the impact could be could be hurt yeah okay so that would be 60 000 views a day it could potentially hit us for assuming that it's just a one time a one-time thing which is honestly not the end of the world but 60 000 people a day that might not see your video in sub boxes anymore i'm over it but i have deeper concerns i have other concerns my other concerns are to do with why are they doing research into auto-generated thumbnails if there isn't some kind of purpose to the experiment and the only purpose that i can think of to an experiment that goes hey what would happen if we just used auto-generated thumbnails instead of user-created thumbnails is that they are considering using them yeah that's the only reason to run this experiment that makes sense to my non-ai algorithmic brain and question for you i'm gonna almost flip sides a little bit here yeah would that be that bad right now we have clickbait cancer all over thumbnails i'm leaving that up to the audience so i've actually brought up our dashboard here and i'm gonna screen share with you guys let's go ahead and pop up my screen here all right so this video right here went up today high school for gamers actually this is not our original thumbnail design for it it originally had me holding up a legitimate esports textbook which was hilarious by the way look esports textbook amazing so we've got a few different options here we've got to actually do you want to do want a straw pole straw and we just need a couple options do you prefer our custom one or do you prefer one of the auto-generated thumbnails so this is high school for gamers we've got me standing holding a book in front of a plant we've got me standing in sort of a dark room it's hard to see my face and then we've got me standing outside of a building and then we've got sort of bigger me with people gaming behind me okay so there's example number one we're gonna we're gonna do a few we're gonna do a few here uh here let's try this one this laptop does everything sort of we've got me holding up laptops we've got some people sitting around eating what is presumably cake we've got some people sitting at a table and we've got actually me holding laptops okay all right but i'm not gonna i'm not gonna lead you guys too much i want you guys to to conclude for me let's try do dual cpu sockets matter this video didn't perform very well so maybe we would have been better off you know i actually don't mind this one um okay what i mean this one do you think do you think the top one that does suck that's like yeah that does suck uh do you think the top one is the one that it would pick though i don't know it might just be one of it might be like random um okay let's try why do we need so many servers okay this one wow we would have thought it was a tech linked episode with riley with that one so that would have been terrible that's not great uh this is just me in kind of a dark mess hard to tell anything this is just me in the editing den it's hard to tell like having a picture of the server does seem pretty helpful for this one is there any other examples you want to you want to see is anything people in chat are saying that they pick the middle thumbnail and other people are just keep on saying that it picks the second one or the second one is the best blah blah blah interesting okay all right why is everyone buying this monitor okay let's try this one sorry you guys i know this is taking a little while but this is this is live research okay so it managed to grab our end card so that's not helpful for sure it managed to grab me standing in the kitchen i am looking at a monitor though again the second one's okay though but the second one is okay it's me sitting there with a monitor in front of me uh do you have those drop hole results yeah um where will i how will i get them spamming them in chat so if you just go to chat okay cool i'm gonna go i'm gonna go check out chat i'm gonna go grab that and bring it up oh i missed all right click take dang it i found actually one of the better ways to do it is to put your mouse where it will be and then wait for chat to bump it and then click there i've actually i've actually found that that works bad solutions for stupid problems okay so even though we did see some pretty good examples in there of thumbnails that actually looked not bad 80 percent of you are saying that you would prefer the custom creator thumbnails at least in our case and i know that there are some creators out there that are not doing a good job of of uh in good faith creating a thumbnail that is representative of the content yeah um but still an 80 to 20 percent vote here is is a pretty overwhelming majority that looks pretty clear to me that you guys have you guys have spoken someone in chat 80 percent of chat has bad taste well moving on then actually we should get our we should get our sponsors out of the way yeah um i believe one of them is ltx 2018 oh boy ltx is the oh that's weird ltx is the interactive meetup and oops meetup and interactive tech event it'll be on july 14th at the richmond olympic oval here in richmond british columbia canada current booths include a blind cable management competition brought to you by cable mod i want to do that i don't know it was blind that's actually way more interesting a delidding workshop so bring your cpus we will show you how to delid them case toss 2.0 now with more safety multi-headed vr a lan 10k ultra wide gaming which by the way is curved i thought it was 12k it was going to be 12k but then we settled on um uh 3440 by 1440 ultra wides instead of the 4k ones okay and i will say that it is a better experience okay doing it this way the extra pixels were not contributing much and the extra size probably would have been unnecessary because it already uh takes up a ginormous significant port have you seen it no it's actually built oh it will be there like it's confirmed now before we were just kind of hoping corsair asus vertigear cable mod bs mods free geek alpha cool and ibuypower will all be at the event with a ton of more brand sending swag and to give you guys some idea of the swag nvidia has sent six titan x's six 1080 tis and a whole bunch of other stuff so we are actually thinking they won't sponsor us but they'll give us stuff to give away that's actually that's pretty cool sure i mean they make ltx pretty sweet yeah so far two years in a row so what we were thinking is instead of just doing a bunch of draws on the stage because that kind of took forever and was kind of tedious it did we're gonna make so many things there like competitions cool so like the blind cable management thing you might win a titan so we want to drive participation so come hang out ticket start at 35 Canadian and you can check them out at the link below or ltx expo.com there's also going to be custom merch that you can't get other places oh there's also going to be custom merch apparently that you won't be able to get other than at ltx i want some wow that's kind of a dick move so the customers that you actually can't get anywhere else is ltx merch oh it's an ltx but also oh we have lanyards too right yeah we have lanyards cool and then there's also one design that our guy has created that is going to be on sale later but you can't get it anywhere else and it's really cool and it's going 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oh what oh no i did that we did it right at the beginning yeah bye bye all right so we've got some rumors to talk about this was posted by numlock 21 on the forum the original article is from wccf tech and i will say that i know anything about this because i don't which is great because it means that i can just talk about the rumors that i've heard this is probably accurate yeah there's a rumored core i9 coming to z390 um it's rumored to be an eight core processor with 16 threads which is absolutely killer because for me there's a fly by the eight core was really the threshold that i bumped into um when video encoding mind you this was a while ago it might have improved since then when video encoding with gpu assistance in adobe premiere and adobe media encoder okay so if i had a really high speed eight core that also had an intel integrated gpu so i could use quicksync yeah that had the potential to be the best of all worlds so you're hoping and six cores wasn't quite enough so i am really hoping that this will be apparently they're well branding at core i9 that's wow why are they muddying the waters why didn't they just make high end desktop core i9 and mainstream core i7 core i7 tie like what are they doing um i'm excited for mainstream to be eight core i think that'll be a really big deal yeah once mainstream has been eight core for like three years that'll be really good for software development and game development and stuff that'll be very nice i just my only thing with this is like of course i don't know well i don't know they could have stuck with six cores i mean their six cores are actually reasonably competitive even with ryzen 2 oh i don't necessarily mean about the 9900k to be fair oh i see what you mean yeah yeah like intel is making more processors oh i see yeah the individual details if they're true that is interesting but it's a rumor so the rumor is that a core i7 9700k would be six core 12 thread direct replacement for the 8700k and the 9600k would be six core six thread so direct replacement for the 8600k what i would expect and this won't be popular is that because they are creating a new model number and they're giving it a core i9 designation i would expect this to be positioned as a more expensive option what we've seen over the last four or five generations now going from 2600k to 3770k to 4770k to 4790k to 5775c that was short-lived to 6700k to 7700k is every generation intel has bumped the performance by five to ten percent and they've uh put a few bucks on the price how much do you think it will cost but basically not much more than adjusting for inflation i think this time we are going to see the top tier skew on the mainstream platform cost a significant amount more i wouldn't be surprised if instead of with ryzen oh yeah barking at their tails i think so i don't think that from intel's perspective ryzen challenges the mainstream k chips because their positioning of these chips is that they're for getting an i9 because those are crazy expensive yes and no the cheapest i9s uh core i9 let's see well that would be what like an it's oh 70 is there a 78 something k can't remember oh man this is a laptop chip why why do i even why do i even bother going to intel's website when there's wikipedia oh no okay yeah you're right core i9 start at a thousand dollars that's that's like not really this one won't be like that though i think this one will be like a hundred dollars more okay so so because that's a pretty big shift for them yes it kind of actually makes sense but it's a big shift yep so i think this will be like a hundred dollars more and i think the justification will be that this is the fastest gaming chip and it's also a really versatile uh sort of cheapo workstation chip because you will get to use the cheaper consumer chip set which does save you some money yeah all right in videos um so basically i'm glad we used the tech power up article yeah um yeah because they are pretty much they went full editorial yeah we don't basically think that that is that big of a deal it was a so this whole situation is very awkward yeah so german is a very weird country i don't know if i said that right probably not um they felt that this latest update suggested to them that nvidia was mandating positive reviews in order to get access to hardware they weren't tech powerup disagrees i disagree i actually hadn't gotten a copy because nvidia was mandating positive reviews in order to get access to hardware they weren't tech powerup disagrees i disagree i actually hadn't gotten a copy because our video contact sent it to luke sat on it for weeks instead of hey okay the i got a follow-up a week after the deadline hey linus is anyone from your organization going to sign this i never saw and then i got your forward after i had sent the sign one back to him already i know did you if you noticed from the forward it was not a reply to the original email i don't think i got the two week old email okay email was like a day or two old at that point so anyway it wasn't that bad i read through it actually as far as ndas go it was pretty plain jane it was like two pages didn't have anything terrifying in it like there's some ndas out there that are scary like we're working on getting this really unique graphics card that actually outputs over ethernet yeah it's super cool their nda really cool much bigger much bigger much bigger um in videos was actually for a company that size in particular like we've worked with some big multinationals in the past especially on like sponsored projects and there's you should explain why it's not the big deal because a lot of people read it and still thought it was really bad probably because they're just not used to reading legalese or ndas well it's because the the wording that says the recipient shall use confidential information solely for the benefit of nvidia means that while the product is nda'd you are not supposed to be uh say for example taking this this unreleased graphics card and lending it to your buddy over at amd so that they can run benchmarks on it so that they'll know ahead of time what the performance will be when the nda that's what that means when the nda lifts the solely for the benefit of nvidia thing also lifts and besides the interpretation of solely for the benefit of nvidia could be very broadly interpreted like you could say that constructive criticism is for the benefit of nvidia that would be that would be that would be a fairly easy legal defense like it's not nearly as restrictive as as it might be made out to be and like we you know when nvidia does something wrong um like for example their g-force partner program and i don't feel like we pulled any punches on that luke has made his feelings on g-force experience very abundantly clear over the years which okay i actually i will take this opportunity to add for them they've done a huge improvement oh i never use it when you when you no no i don't use it either but this is that's the point i'm talking about you know how before if you did express install it would just install i actually did notice that yeah that's actually super cool yeah so it doesn't make you install it anymore yeah thank you that's actually awesome i hammered on them so much about g-force experience so i have to give them the positive kudos at the same time about making it so that there's now when you go to the express stall it's like express with g-force experience or express without i did notice that that's a absolutely totally acceptable good enough option we've got how about nvidia releasing 10 30s with ddr4 memory that's what you get for buying a 10 30 you don't buy low-end graphics cards we've made multiple videos about that here let's let's just low-end graphics card gamers nexus made a recent one about it too all you have to do all you have to do is google it let me google that for you technically youtube is google low-end video cards rent are they still terrible spoiler yes low end video card rant and radion r7 240 unboxing and review spoiler yes um where's gamers nexus's video i think it's pretty new it's about the 10 30 or whatever dang it steve can you get your get your get your freaking seo okay there you go gamers nexus disgrace of a graphics card gt 10 30 tdr4 is probably that video is probably why that person said that thing in twitch chat that is my assumption right but that's what you get for buying a 10 30 instead of a last generation 900 series decent card as far as i know 10 30s are for like the the person that walks into best buy needs to plug in more monitors and doesn't know any better because the cold hard truth and i've got i've had people just completely not listen so many times to mine and yours for that matter criticisms of low-end graphics cards saying well some people just don't have that much money to spend on a better one then buy used it's like the whole point of scrapyard wars a lot of people like we have had very good experiences with this if you bring your rig we'll let you test it just test it a lot of honestly a lot of the hardware community these these dudes will even like let you into their house to where their computer is to test it there i'm not being some kind of you know elitist you know oh well then you should just spend more on your graphics card that's not the point no the point is that brand new garbage is still garbage whereas used diamonds are still diamonds this might be a little slightly scratched up or something i'm i'm getting all mad and i shouldn't let myself get this stressed out about it it's just stupid uh someone asked when is scrapyard wars coming oh two weeks to float plane to float plane so it'll be a week after that um we had talked about float plane being more ready for prime time by the time scrapyard wars comes where are we at on that um there uh can i do a big push go sign up for float plane it's gonna be amazing scrapyard wars i'm hoping so are you guys ready we have some cool things coming there's obviously been some uh minor shake up as you've heard of recently so we'll have to see how we react to that but there is some cool things coming notifications are going to be working soon um some parts of it are already working oh we're not like launching that part yet until all of it's working okay uh discord integrations and stuff are going to be working soon there's there's some really cool things coming down the pipe uh okay if we can get it done fast enough all right cool i'm excited you know what i should just i should just do it we are gonna we are gonna pimp look at the look on his face so much concern it's frozen did it freeze why is it frozen why is it frozen there's the streams oh we're back okay all right um okay now i was just messing with you i kevsky 802 i was like oh god dedicated video on the ltt channel 20 000 new users overnight are you ready no uh the original article here is from tech crunch uh and this looks pretty cool vr gloves okay luke go yes okay i've wanted this so bad lightus has been playing this game what is the game box vr box vr i train boxing in real life two times a week and i have wanted to do this box vr thing but my biggest problem with it is that i don't want to hold the controllers yeah because i think that would be really weird i'm i've gotten very used to to boxing with my boxing gloves on and uh i've been talking to i haven't had the time but i've been talking to him about how i want to get another pair of boxing gloves and mod the vive controller into the boxing glove and now these guys have more or less done it for me i'm sure i can take their design and attach it to a boxing glove super easy very so that's awesome so uh in a nutshell um they're launching out of y combinators latest class of startups with ambitions to bring a low-cost flexible glove into users hands or onto them as it were the plexus glove relies on the existing tracking systems of the htc and oculus headsets so the tracking sensors grab the position of where the hands are in space via the magnetically attached tracker magnetic that sounds bad uh yep i would just super glue it to the magnet i think yeah or better glue after calibrating a resting state of the user's fingers individual sensors communicate their position to the game engine very cool very cool velkos drops secure the glove at your palm and the individual finger controls hook onto the end of your fingertips with motors that offer tactile feedback see this creates a problem for modding into a boxing glove but i'll probably just ignore that part and just having gloves on and not having to wear or not having to hold the controllers will be good enough plexus is shipping the gloves with tool kits for unity and unreal game engines developer kits are 249 per pair ouch shipping in august yeah that's not cheap this is something that i've wanted for a long time believe it or not i didn't know that i wanted it to be a battle royale and in fact i probably didn't want it to be a battle royale but something that i have wanted for a long time is much much greater scale multiplayer experiences uh something that i had sort of envisioned a number of years ago uh what's that uh what's that game called savage no so savage was uh let me let me make sure this is even the right name savage game savage battle for new earth was this it i think this was it so did i ever tell you about those lands i used to run at uvic yeah with like the huge amounts of computers across multiple computer labs on multiple floors all this kind of stuff we would play savage because this game supported some crazy amount of players i don't remember the exact amount of players that it supported but we could have doesn't say labs versus labs going on oh the other one to 127 players on the team are field players yeah okay i actually didn't know this was an actual thing this is exactly what i wanted yeah so this is an old game but it's a very good like land pack you've got a huge amount of people for some reason you want to get everyone into the game and like it was always really fun because if i remember correctly this was like redstone like redstone was in this game so i had redstone in my head i think it was called redstone pre minecraft and uh you'd have a whole lab you'd have like the the leader of that team or the leader of that lab go like we need redstone and then the whole lab just like redstone you see everyone in the game just run over to go get it it's so much fun and you have to fight each other and you like level up and you spawn in these different things and it's like this whole combat rts mix like one person each team is playing an rts game right all the other players are playing like the minions it's it's it's old it's very old and interesting but it's it's fun so imagine that with like a thousand people yeah and yeah super cool so uh if anyone i was really into supreme commander that's one of the games that i was most into out of any game like i think i was top 500 at one point which it wasn't a huge community but i was pretty good at it um imagine for a moment did you ever play subcom i did a little bit okay so it has large vehicles like i forget what they were called but they were like tier four tier four vehicles that were like these huge things where you could potentially man something like that with like 20 or 30 people so imagine a 1000 player version of something like savage with just like kind of and the way that subcom had a lot of really cheap swarmy type units yeah so imagine a game like that with 500 v 500 with like all these different roles so you could potentially run around as a marine or you could be uh like a gunner on like this you know big land crawler tank thing or being a heli with three dudes how much would be cool if it was like local voice and you like had to engage in local voice so if you're in that giant mammoth tank with 20 people you've got like the the driver like telling what's coming up telling people to like reload different sides all this kind of stuff you actually have to use like your comms system to talk to anyone that isn't nearby like this sounds like a gaming experience that would probably be too hardcore for the fortnight kids oh i'd love it though but i think it's the kind of thing that could be a completely different level of fun one thing i really really enjoyed and i know you haven't played this game but it's called it's called black wake um and i was really hoping this was what uh microsoft's pirate game was going to be like but it wasn't really but i don't even remember what microsoft's pirate game is called at this point um but in black wake you drop into a new game and you're on a you're on a pirate ship you're sailing in the ocean and you have to fight other people's pirate ships but your your captain like it's you're in first person view and you really can't see all that much if you're if you're the one doing things on deck right and you have to like get the gunpowder and get the the cannonball and you have to shove the gunpowder in the thing and shove the cannonball in the thing and then load the cannon and then you can aim it and fire it so like you can't look where the boat's going so the captain has to sail the boat and then like bark out like i'm lining up for this side like port side port side and everyone's trying to reload the cannons on port side the captain has to yell out like there's there's a hole below deck so i have to run below deck and try to patch it and bail the water out and all is so play inside too free to play massively multiplayer first person shooter um that has uh the guinness world record for the biggest first person shooter battle with 1158 players being recorded in a single battle i don't but this doesn't have the rts element yeah i don't personally think it captures the same the same idea um but it is i i've played a bit of planet site too it it is sort of like that but i yeah i don't think it quite captures the same idea right part of the reason for me is i believe planet site too is a persistent battle like forever z's it's not a match right uh i think you can win and lose areas it's an nmo yeah you can win and lose areas and like there will be a an individual battle for an individual place and if one person wins or loses then it probably ends and whatnot but it's not it's not the same type of type of thing all right let's see what else we've got for topics here oh right we didn't even talk about mavericks so mavericks promises right posted by crunchy dragon on the forum original article from pedestrian dot tv earlier this year automation games revealed mavericks claiming its battle royale mode can support up to 400 players crazier yet some game modes the studio says will facilitate up to a thousand concurrent players okay a persistent environment means players will leave tracks wherever they go and you'll be able to drop in and out at any time the world will continue to exist and evolve whether you're there or not neat and it'll be able to host up to a thousand players in any given server google's game streaming service may have a hardware component this was originally posted by master disaster on the forum the original article is from kotaku so basically game developers conference in march google representatives met with several big game companies to gauge interest in its streaming platform code named yeti and this is yet another indication that whether you like it or not cloud gaming is going to be a thing a lot of people were so excited about it a lot of people were so mad when i did that video on uh what's nvidia's called again i know what you mean but yeah i don't remember i've solved my head uh shield something what's what's it called no no it's not called grid anymore uh nvidia oh crap it's it's not called game no uh cloud gaming i can't remember what it's called geforce now um so a lot of people were mad they were like they're pry my hardware from my cold dead fingers and you might be right but what's going to happen is cloud gaming is going to happen whether you like it or not and there's going to be much like um you know the xbox has gaming experiences that are simply not available on the pc there's going to be gaming experiences that are available on cloud gaming that will not be available to those of you with graphics cards in your cold dead fingers and graphics cards in pcs are also not going away anytime soon just to be very clear but i can imagine a scenario where if every player was running off of the same data center effectively you could actually enable massively multiplayer experiences more easily so the latency instead of being between the persistent environment and every individual player because you'd have effectively like zero latency within the data center would be between every player and their own connection to the persistent world i actually foresee a way to create gaming experiences that otherwise wouldn't be possible yeah that's why it will exist and i hadn't actually thought of that until i said it just now but there's nothing you can do this is happening and it also helps that massive companies like google are jumping into the fray it's not just going to be nvidia playing by themselves with some smaller startups yeah uh i don't necessarily know if i like it or not but i i do think it's going to happen it might be i i feel like it would be cool if there was like some games you know how like wow has a subscription some mmos have subscriptions if you're going to pay for a subscription anyways whatever if it's a game that makes sense to have a subscription for whatever but i see it coming to the point where it's like downloading games instead of buying physical copies where like people are like oh yeah it's just easier so i'm just going to do it anyways and then it bites people in the but later when now they have download caps and games are 100 gigs um and other things start happening yeah not to mention that multiplayer just goes away once the game dev doesn't feel like it anymore yeah like that kind of stuff uh so google took meetings at e3 in los angeles a few weeks ago apparently the company is looking not just to woo game developers to the eddy service but to buy development studios entirely oh that's interesting oh boy whispers have been quieter around google's hardware whatever that might look like but the rumors suggest it will link up with the streaming service in some way it's not clear if they want to compete with the technical specs of like a new gen playstation or xbox or whether it'll be cheaper and low end relying on the streaming server servers to pull their weight dun dun dun google has apparently been on a massive hiring spree bring in experienced video game developers and marketers from ea playstation and other top companies interesting uh this was posted by friendly non-murdering sort on the forum thank you for that this is super cool android messages for web now available for everyone the original article is from google.com you can use your computer to chat with your friends through messages for web which shows what's on your messages mobile app it's about time messages got some attention hey like it didn't even have cloud sync until like it just started working for me very recently i was like oh holy crap my messages are still there when i switched phones how did this take so long and just so you guys know to get it yourself oh no this isn't even the right link uh where is it uh messages for web sends sms messages using a connection from your computer to your phone so carrier fees will apply just like on the mobile app this is not like um i message okay it's not database still but once i keep forgetting what they're calling it once the new uh chat once chat rolls out i see no reason why it wouldn't be able to use data so if you go to messages.android.com it will give you the super super easy instructions on how to sync it you just click on the triple dot thing in messages it'll bring up a like a qr code reader scan it you're done um and i've used it a fair amount already because i've been coordinating a stag and people that aren't on some other messaging system to be able to write out a massive message with my keyboard and then just copy paste blah blah blah perfect way easier you compare it on multiple devices but only one will be active at a time um corsairs acquiring el gato gaming this is posted by kuia kolkka on the forum i'm hoping that this situation is amazing because i've had a super intense frustration with them for a long time which is where they only support windows 10 on their devices right so you want corsair to go and invest heavier into wider i doubt it but good luck what about new devices though because of course if they make like stream deck 2 or like some new capture card so my hope is actually less to do with capture and more to do with taking stream deck technology and putting it into keyboards so corsairs gaming keyboards are already pretty cool but el gato has clearly done a lot of work on remember the um the art labadev optimus keyboard from back in the day if you guys don't know what that is look it up yeah it's pretty cool individual display on every key like a 2000 dollar keyboard or something um so so i would love to see corsair take that technology and make it actually useful and corsairs pretty good at that make make the keys more durable so that if you press on them they don't like ruin the screen below it and stuff like that stuff like that yeah that'd be really cool um even if they just did it as like a g key area yep i wouldn't even i wouldn't get your hopes up though i know what you want i know why you want it so like windows 7 is like it's done man it's done you're one but windows 7 is what i have to use for my sword for my argument because that's where the majority of users are but someone found i should have been able to find this but i i didn't but someone found that there's the like history log of versions and on one of the versions the only thing stopping at work from on windows 7 8 and 8.1 is a flag that checks if you have the right operating system so someone made a wrapper that just ignores that flag and you can just install it on whatever operating system you want and it works completely fine it doesn't have like if i remember correctly it doesn't have like twitter video integration or something and i'm like wow i don't care right so yeah i'm just going to do that and it'll work on my computer is fine but last topic of the day you'll probably be excited or uh apprehensive this is off news.xbox.com and it was posted by master disaster on the forum which is actually a great great username uh halo tv series set to begin filming in 2019 is it live action showtime president and ceo david nevins has announced the network has ordered a 10 episode season based on the halo game franchise kyle killen awake will serve as executive producer writer and showrunner rupert wyatt rise of the planet of the apes will direct multiple episodes and also executive produced the hour long series which enters production in early 2019 okay so it is not clear to me if it is live action or animated uh it's possible that some people know that i think the a massive massive mistake was making was making the warcraft movie live action did you ever see it uh based on how terrible you told me it was i didn't bother okay yeah but you played warcraft you saw the amazing cinematics i played warcraft like not two yeah and not three did you not play two and three i did play two and i just mean i was just feeling kind of old because you were like you played warcraft and i was like yes yes yeah i did i i played it too to be fair i played it many many many years later just to see what it was about uh it's not very good no it's actually pretty like kind of bad yeah and the ai is like super super brutal so bad but uh the the cinematics in warcraft have always been amazing yeah and yeah uh world of warcraft cinematics same idea absolutely amazing cinematics yep and then we get the movie and it's live action like they they have in my opinion possibly the best cinematics in gaming there's some argument there with square enix yeah square enix has some really amazing stuff too in my opinion it's it's close or better but and it's hard to make that argument because you have to go back you have to go back very far and kind of compare era by era because they've both done in my opinion it's been them they've both done arguably a better job of cinematics than games at multiple points in their histories yeah sometimes it's not even arguably it's just like clearly that's way better um and so they're probably kind of depends on which one going together the whole time blizzard has been incredible at cinematics and then they make a live action movie and i just every single time that i see a warcraft or starcraft or whatever that overwatch cinematic from blizzard i'm like holy crap this is gold everything about this is perfect and then you see live action it's just what are you doing so i i hope halo is not live action there's nothing here about whether it's live action or rendered on the xbox.com article anyway maybe people are telling us in twitch chat yeah i haven't seen any in twitch chat all right so that's pretty much it oh mickey 555 says i loved the movie and that you are a hater well you probably just don't know things about warcraft wow um and on that note uh thank you for tuning into the wan show we will see you again next week same bad time same bad channel dang it's live action a whole bunch of people are saying it's live action all right and no i didn't find my cat thank you for asking you are a straight up savage oh someone else replied warcraft made me want to gouge my eyes out wow that's a little aggressive