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I do have to wash it occasionally also short sleeves Like it is finally getting to be the real the real spring going on over here I noticed because I do thermal testing in the warehouse and the warehouse doesn't really have like it has heating things But they usually off You can track like what season the video came out in based on the ambient temperatures in the warehouse Because in the winter is like 16 degrees now. It's like 22. Oh, okay I really hope it doesn't get like too hot in here in the summer probably going to you you know what last summer it was somewhat bearable on the days when we didn't open up the base and and We have the window coverings now That's because like my office someone walked into my office Yesterday Terran Terran came into my office yesterday before we shot the channel super fun, and he was like Holy crap. It's hot in here. I had had the I had had the window cover open for about seven minutes No, when before I he's right in there before I got them that office was like a sauna it was horrible I hate it was absolutely horrible so much and to be clear guys we have an air conditioning setup Yeah, but you don't air condition a warehouse Generally speaking it's not unless you're like a cold storage place. Yeah Do you have any idea how ballin it would be to air condition the entire warehouse have you been up on the roof? No, okay, so the two air conditioning units you can like you can like see them up there So we have two air conditioning units each of which are about double the size of this table And that is just for the office space which is only about a third of the entire space in here So we would have to have like six air conditioning units or much larger ones in order to air condition the warehouse Which is insane and it's huge amounts of money lots of electricity. Yeah, so there's there's a hundred ongoing costs suck. Yes Even when you live in BC and your your power is pretty cheap because everything's just falling water It's still one time costs are good Yeah, things like buying a camera like in the grand scheme of things even a $5,000 camera is not that bad hiring an employee For you know let's say I don't know $2500 or $3,000 a month let me tell you that adds up extremely quickly Especially murder. I can't read two months in you're already way past and then like with with the stuff that employers have to pay for different Various things possibly one month and you know what's BS with the camera. I pay for it once I can use it forever It turns out employees are nothing like slaves the second you stop paying them they stop working in fact if you terminate them It is customary to pay them to keep working for another two weeks even though. They don't do it Anyway, we've got a lot of great topics for you guys today Tesla announced the model free Although you'll have to wait a while if you want one yes more on that in a little while Oh, this is interesting lawmakers pushing to make owning an unregistered prepaid phone illegal in the United States of a hollow Portation from Microsoft it's all I'm gonna say is hollow portation Anything is better with portation at the end. Yeah, yeah like like transportation Yeah, that's a great movie yes anyway, you don't even know that's a movie do you know that I don't know You didn't know who Tom Hanks was I didn't know Harrison Ford played Han Solo Okay, those are misquotes and not fair Okay, you know what's great about the internet speaking of quotes no they can go Mr.. Gabe Newell once said that you can't lie to the internet Yeah, so go watch it you did not know Harrison Ford I know who Harrison Ford is I forgot his name in context when talking about Han Solo. It's still inexcusable But that's not how it happened That's why I said a misquote god won't you miss quote another topic in? Bintel Irrod well IP branched There I misquoted a topic which was Intel broadwell. No you're done intros rolling You're done, and when it's done rolling he won't be there Okay, no no see there's a problem with this there's a there's a big problem with this So I'm gonna have to fix this here. We've got we've got ourselves a problem. I'm just gonna hold on I gotta just there we go. Yeah Okay, no no you guys back. Okay. Yeah good enough his feet can stay. That's it. You're done What am I trying to do right now? Oh yeah sponsors Squares Mace? Always back wait hold on I have to fix this there we go All right, so I get get back get back in here I said what you said wasn't gonna be a misquote, so I had to not be there Yeah, because then we'd have to get rid of me, and then there would be no one That's a problem. Do you know how many when shows in a row we have done on Fridays whether it's you know Christmas? Or New Year's which I think both fell on Fridays this year. We kind of fake out the Christmas April fools We did fake. We did it on Thursday. That's true. We did we did we did we did every other one We honestly haven't taken yeah, yeah, I don't think we've I don't think we yeah I don't think we've ever actually claimed it was a live broadcast when it wasn't no I've had people in the chat be like this isn't life. There's no way it's live And I'll like reply to them in chat That actually happens like oh It'll be some holiday, and they'll be like there's no way they came into work. It's like actually we did There's been a few times where we'll move when we get the holiday So like we'll take the holiday on the Monday instead of the Friday Yeah, or there's been other times where we just come into work at like yep I think we did that I think we only did that once but Luke and I did do one day Yeah, we're just he and I came in no one else was in the office We hosted the WAN show and then we peaced out it was a beautiful day if I recall correctly It was actually yeah Yeah, I think it must have been like BC day or family day or something like that and we're just like yeah It's really hot in this room It's really gorgeous outside we have to like listen to the kids walking yeah speaking of gorgeous outside The original article was posted on the forum by Maybach one twenty three yes, I have Tesla model three announced the release is set for 2017 Which is a very very generous headline courtesy of the verge because I think what musk Hope actually said was that production will be starting in late 2017 With the plan being to actually deliver cars by the end of 2017 Which is yeah, which which based on how many people have pre-ordered the damn thing already Probably doesn't mean that everyone who pre-orders is getting one right off the hop no no definitely not like I wouldn't Expect it to be any different than their other launches where they're just gonna go in order their pre-order list so okay What do you think the very front? Okay, so What I? Think it looks ugly Okay, but because you said speaking of beautiful. Yeah, I'm not much No, I'm not much of a I'm not much of a car guy So I generally don't have much of an opinion about a car okay, but this looks jarring and unattractive to me, but I think I understand why again maybe because Well, it looks like it kind of crashed into a wall Maybe because I'm not a car guy because I'm looking at it. I I like to think very very objectively and I think what I don't like about it is just that the grill is missing. I understand why the grill is not there You don't need one You don't need one for an electric car. There's no there's no radiator. There's no heater core Well, oh no, there's a heater core probably, but I guess that would just be handled down here or something anyway Anyway, like I get why it's ugly and it has kind of it has kind of a Porsche look to it a little bit To me like the like the hood has kind of like a Porsche look to it Brandon says it looks like a Panamera to him, but I think if you if you shopped a grill onto it Yeah, all of a sudden thing with a girl thing at all until you brought it wouldn't look so unnatural to people and I think Car people who find beauty in every line and every aspect of a car are used to seeing something It's like it's like let's say a very beautiful woman who didn't have a nose Maybe she's still beautiful But you're looking for you're looking for the elements that make the person a human And well, and if something's missing, it's I think it's jarring But then at the same time you're gonna get people that want jarring so people are gonna really like this Yes, there's people that might be super into the chick with no nose it like it but yeah Exactly when I first saw this I thought it looked especially Probably because of the lighting in that photo if you want to jump back there and share it. Yeah So I'm assuming it's especially because this specific photo is the only time that I've been like, oh, I don't really like it But you can see right along the edge Here it's obvious. It's I'm gonna yeah, I can't really so right along there You can see the line from the lighting and it makes it look like this super harsh angle It does it looks like it was like angle folded in Yeah, and what it was smashed into a wall and I don't really like that but in profile pictures It doesn't look nearly as bad. So I think it's because of the lighting in that one photo interesting it looks like super bent in and awkward and I know like Brandon brought up the Panamera and there are some Porsche cars that do kind of do that but then there's something going on there whether it's a grill or Something and opening I know they have the opening at the bottom, but it doesn't really look the same It still looks like a pretty harsh edge. It still does look like it still does look like, you know It looks like someone took a styrofoam cutter just cut off the front of the car Yeah, I can see it and you know what like the thing is is that if there was a grill on there It wouldn't bother you I bet Because you can even have the grill come it could even be concave. I mean concave grills are a thing Yeah, you could have a concave grill right there and it would look totally natural But I think it's I think it's like the nose analogy is pretty good Where it's just like the nose isn't there Yeah, and you're looking for something you're expecting and you end up with like it kind of looks bland here Like I'm expecting yeah, because the the grill is is an accent piece I mean, that's why you that's why you call, you know, the gold teeth nonsense. That's why you call it a grill It's like right. It's a fancy It's a dressed up element of a vehicle and it's missing on this car. Um The registration plate will be there. Yeah I don't know how much that's gonna help. Yeah a good point and thank you for bringing that up But I don't know how much it's gonna be such a small Thing it's very overlooked on a lot of cars anyways. Yeah, it surprises me that for the sake of fuel economy They don't have like an air scoop that filters air through the car or something like that Like you like it looks like a very blunt nose, but I'm sure Tesla thought I was just gonna say I'm sure there's some logic behind the like even aerodynamics of it having a straight wall Doesn't normally seem like a great idea for that. Yeah, I'm sure there's something going on there I mean, it's one of those things where it's not until you It's not until you sit in a better engineered car that you you appreciate certain things about it Like I had the first vehicle that I ever sat in that I noticed this on like my my family always had North American vehicles And so the first car I ever noticed this on was a Volkswagen Jetta of some sort some some some model It was a long time ago and I marveled that when I opened the windows when I unrolled them in the rain The rain didn't drip inside the car and I was like Leave it to the Germans To figure out how you can open your window like as long as it's not torrential downpour or like coming in that way Yes, or angled. Yeah how to have the water kind of fly past the car instead of like going right into the window and soaking Whoever's in the backseat. I was like, this is amazing I think it was a 91 Jetta and I don't I suspect but not every Volkswagen or and it could have been by chance could have been entirely by chance all the way down it Yeah So so it blows me away the number of things that go into Something is that's seemingly as simple to the untrained viewer as the body design of a car where you just kind of go Yeah, it must just be for looks right? No manufacturer ability Aerodynamics things like keeping the frickin rain off of people absolutely absolutely stunning the amount of work that goes into something like this being said I think the rest of the car is very good looking I Think the rest of the car is actually very plain looking for a $35,000 car though brand new okay, so here I'm gonna I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna put us here Does that not pretty much look like the butt end of my Civic I? Just like the little Tesla badge you just like the Tesla badge really You know like this no, I I just like oh you just like that. That's it not dislike Okay, so I like cuz when you covered it up. I was like kind of boring so like that's probably You are so frickin shallow If you look at the back to though, I think there's like a cool window thing going on Yeah, okay, so no they've the verge has another has another shot of it Here let's go ahead. I'm just gonna cuz I liked that cool. I thought yeah, so that's pretty cool Okay, so it's one continuous piece of glass all the way from the front of the windshield to the back of the windshield And this is another safety rating I was gonna say this is another thing that kind of blows me away because musk has come Right out and said that it will be one of the safest cars available And I'm kind of giant piece of glass over everyone. I'm kind of going I mean this is something people don't think about because how often do you pick up? You know a six foot long piece of glass not very often no frickin heavy Oh, yeah, I had to put the door back on my my glass enclosed shower thing at home With the help of my with the help of my wife and like it was all we could do to get it on crooked It's on crooked now And I was like she wanted to take it off And it was one of those like husband and wife things where you know She's wrong, and you know you're gonna regret it, but you do it anyway because you're just like yes You're right dear. It is very very important indeed to you know clean the thing under the hinge Stupid asinine thing it is that we're doing right now Let's take it off and so we did and I regretted it and so did she so now it actually doesn't close anymore But it kind of mostly close Splash or anything no, okay? No, it is functionally functional, but not aesthetically functional Thank you for that. Yeah, I knew what I said was dumb as soon as I said it But I like anyways the incident replay was much appreciated back to the car. I do like that part a lot It looks really cool. I worry about it in crashes and stuff Yeah, I mean if he's I Mean the model s is a shockingly safe car it is and this is five-star safety rating so like I Don't know Just like I mean so many the thing about modern cars is that what has made them so safe? Speeds on highways have gone up the speeds that people travel have gone up The the incidence of injury and death and collisions have gone down dramatically in the last 50 years and Crumple zones that's been the answer is let the car take the brunt of it, and I don't understand how glass Factors into a crumple zone unless it is that that cubing glass that you find on Automobiles where it's designed to go okay, haha. I'm dead and disintegrate into a bajillion pieces But why would you want that type of glass above the driver and the passenger? I thought it would be windshield glass well that would be that's that's that kind oh, I thought you're okay Yeah, so it's either designed to be rigid in which case um It seems like a problem. Yeah, or it's designed to shatter into a bazillion pieces in which case But windshield glass holds together when it shatters it visibly shatters, but it holds together windshield glass hold on Maybe I'm thinking is it side glass and side glass am I thinking of side glass the hell up because okay? My mom had a while I was in the car had a rock come through her back glass same thing right exploded Windows gone the front of the window you can beat the crap one of the front of a car window And it'll just know you're right because you can like stick a bat through them Okay, so but either way then either Answer I don't understand. I think I understand windshield glass a lot more no no so you think this is windshield glass Yeah, okay, I get like I mean then in that case Yeah, and what someone just said roofs aren't part of crumple zones. It would be your trunk in your front. That's true Okay, that's true So as long as you don't get hit by a semi the theory would be then that the crumple in which case you're doomed anyway Yeah, so the theory would be then that The crumple zone wouldn't actually reach the roof The things that kind of worry me outside of that yeah, if you get t-boned Yes, and your your door like buy something big and the door frame like if you get hit by a by an SUV I got a truck or an SUV or something and the like upper part of your door frame bends But then if it's made of windshield glass that it should just visit visibly explode But yeah, mostly hold it. Assuming. It's a fixed very securely here here and here Which it kind of looks like the idea would be that it could basically dent in yeah without necessarily creating a disastrous Yeah, and because windshield glass is like layered. I think there's like glass and then plastic and then glass or something Like laminated. Yeah, I don't remember exactly what it is. Don't quote me on that. I would look it up It's kind of cool actually, but it should it should visibly shatter like crazy But then kind of hold its shape to the point where if I remember correctly I've seen videos of people like pulling it and it like bends, but right they'll hold its shape and like will Visibly blow up, but still hold its shape. I don't remember what the exact combination of things is but They're like guys stop. You know nothing about glass well That's welcome to the WAN show that's true alright, so let's talk about some of the other things We do know about the car price is looking to start at thirty five thousand dollars, which puts it right Smack in range of the new bolt that hold on volt and bolt the volt that Chevy was no wait No bolt bolt that Chevy was showing off at the auto show that I just attended. Oh, that is so confusing So yeah, Chevy volt is the is the hybrid which is a plug-in hybrid starting 2017 and then the bolt is the pure electric So Chevy is saying that the bolt will be sub thirty thousand dollars in the u.s. Assuming that you get the full federal tax credit which can be as much as seventy five hundred dollars Okay, but if you are in a link Tesla's quoting that and if you are in a lower income bracket You won't necessarily be able to take advantage of it because it is a tax refund so it assumes that you paid Seventy five hundred dollars in taxes, and then they refund that okay It will deliver at least two hundred and fifteen miles of range although We are a long way out from when the car is actually shipping Which is end of 2017 Elon Musk fairly confident according to our notes here that deliveries will begin by the end of 2017 So they've got time to tune it means like nothing and that's very similar to what Chevy is quoting on the bolt Actually, it's really it was actually kind of fun doing the auto show even though like again I'm not really a car guy because I got to talk to so many people that I have like little snippets of information That are actually relevant to what we're talking about right now for a change. I don't have to kind of sit there and be like During the car job It's also fairly comparable to Hyundai's Ionic which is I believe shipping now in Korea and coming soon to North America so Um yeah, really cool car. Have you seen the Ionic? No. Three different drive trains Traditional hybrid plug-in hybrid so with like I think it's about a 22 or 25 mile or 18 somewhere Somewhere in the 18 to 25 mile pure electric range and then it switches over to a gas motor for a gas engine And then a pure electric so three different drive trains of otherwise the same basic car very interesting car Oh, so you can buy okay? I was like why the hell would you ever do that? No no no no no It's like yeah, hot swap drive trains like that just sounds needlessly expensive for so many reasons okay, yeah Um so that's really this is great so the the the pre-orders in our notes are 130,000 Although I think you were saying Musk has tweeted a number that's higher than that Someone about this model three pre-orders yay for having computers are Seven point five billion worth of model three pre-orders in 24 hours 20 hours ago It was past the 150,000 mark Wow So so hold on a second let's let's whip out the old calculator trees here Oh here we go 180,000 cars now the craziest thing about this and this is this is really cool This is really smart is that those people did more than just kind of you know Answer a straw poll on the internet or like a Facebook event invitation right yeah yeah Yeah, they paid a thousand dollars each for the like actually legit pre-ordered it Crazy and what's really cool about that is I was actually talking to Brandon when we were at the car show about how much cash Tesla has burned over the last 18 months it's like over a billion dollars like they're actually I believe they are They could be it's somewhere in they they have somewhere in the neighborhood of one billion dollars of cash left Don't quote me on that exact number, but they're burning through it so fast that I was talking to Brandon I was like yeah like they're gonna run out at some point here so they're gonna have to go back for another round of investment or something Brilliant idea take pre-orders you know 20 months in advance and that actually just put a significant amount of cash into the company That actually lets them run for not an insubstantial amount of time to continue developing the model 3 While they are still not able to actually ship cars I mean you know do do do the I should be able to do this in my head And I feel bad so the 7.5 billion is the total if everyone paid full price yes car which I don't even think is possible right now So it's about a hundred and eighty million dollars yeah, so that's the cash injection. They just got as effectively like like a Kickstarter towards the model 3 except that you don't actually have to pay the full amount yeah, and they don't have to give Kickstarter a cut Yeah, so that is an incredible chunk of chunk of Mula in order to in order to get things in order to get things rolling over the next little bit Well, this is this is great USA Today has pre-orders topping a hundred and ninety eight thousand as of two hours later than the verge Like check this out. This is very much a developing story how many pre-orders Tesla is getting on the model 3 wow I can't share topics right now because firefax firefax. That's basically what it is doing right now fail. Fox firefox is completely crashed I can do it give me a moment which which one are we which one are we linking here? I was gonna I was gonna share some of the statistics sites, but for this well. Oh, I think I already shared the car Okay, then we're good um okay, so five adults will fit comfortably in the model 3 and comfortably is apparently the important part here All model 3 cars will support Tesla's high-speed supercharging network as well as feature the hardware Which is interesting is specifically said the hardware for autonomous driving features So it's possible you will end up having to pay more in order to enable the software unlock in it But what's cool about it coming with the hardware is it means that you could potentially buy that later on down the line Which is a lot easier to swallow for people and would be really cool for things like the resale value of this type of vehicle So if you've got to kind of go no, I want to drive my car myself But hey, you're looking to sell it and someone else wanted the autonomous version Hey, that's that's pretty cool. You can just download that kit of the car all models will apparently feature the full safety suite So all of the safety features and um shoot there was something else that was really cool that I was gonna say just now Right and there will be but there will be variants that will cost more So that that seven point five billion dollar estimate that assumes that people are only spending the very base right Thirty five thousand dollars, but there's gonna be a two-wheel drive. There's gonna be a four-wheel drive model There's gonna be any number of different trim levels So a thousand dollars down just means you're committed to buy one It doesn't mean that you're committed to buy a base model and I can imagine people spending more than thirty five thousand dollars on Okay, it was based off an average retail price of 42. Oh 42. Sorry, so didn't know that so thank you I just wanted to double check because I wasn't sure I assumed they would just go for that but like I Don't know I have it. Can you even go through like a car configurator at this point? I? Really don't think so. I don't know what the average retail prices. I Don't know Yeah, but my option makes it free Yeah, no, no, no, no, yeah, so I'm not really sure entirely how people are getting that number Because like I'm not necessarily sure especially without a super affordable car That's gonna come with a lot of its features. Anyways, like how much extra people must really gonna add I don't know, you know, I actually take a completely different view of it than you do The way that I see it like as someone who's a total cheapskate and has never bought an expensive car One of the things that I've been waiting for to upgrade the super civic is an electric vehicle that makes sense So for me if I'm kind of going okay, I have the super civic is a 2003 that I've been driving since 2006 And so for a 10-year investment Do I really want to do to myself what I did to myself last time cheaping out and not getting air conditioning and Is this thing gonna not come with air conditioning? No, that's what I mean like without a kit configurator AC is usually extra Really? I mean, well, but the thing is Tesla's cars cost six figures right now So it would be a base model feature, but this is a $35,000 car. So I don't know Without a kit configurator It's impossible to say Yeah, but I could see myself investing in some extra creature comforts I wouldn't be too surprised either like Real deal. I'm gonna keep it 10 years. Yeah Yeah I could know I could totally see that. I'm just saying like just deciding on the numbers maybe a little weird Anyways So this is interesting. Here's a blog post from Elon Musk August 2nd 2006 Where he outlined the master plan Which has actually totally come to fruition Blah blah blah as you know Tesla Roadster is a first car. It's a sports car I am going to use the money we make on this to fund to make something more affordable Enter the Model S Then I'm gonna use the money from that to make something that is much more affordable Enter the Model 3 So basically he said 10 years ago what he was going to do Blah blah blah. Here you go. So here's the summary The rest of the automotive industry had 10 years to react to this master plan That he actually put in plain and simple English on the Tesla Motors.com blog And only Chevy looks like they have somewhat reacted to it Properly tried Yeah. With that said I do see the electric car as a secondary vehicle for most people still Even the Model 3 Secondary vehicle? I see it as a second Like the second family car kind of deal? Not necessarily even the second one But I see it as a car for people who have two vehicles Because the range and recharging considerations make it so that if I wanted to go on a family road trip And I realize you can just rent a van and do things like that But aside from the cost And it's much less common for road trips these days Very inconvenient Isn't it that bad? If you're going on a road trip you could plan out supercharging stations You could But 15 miles a day is... Not that much No, if you're doing a family road trip though Yeah that's true Do you need to slam? Like I don't know That's true but I mean I don't know I don't feel like I would need to buy an entirely different car on the off chance that I wanted to do a family road trip and book it the whole time But would you as someone who only has a single car would you buy a pure electric then? Sure You think so? Here it would be a little bit harder Well I live here It would probably be completely fine Because the craziest stuff I do is drive to Kitsiline on back Which is completely covered in 215 miles I guess what I'm trying to say Is I can see why everyone else Not everyone but many others are betting so much more heavily now on hybrid electric Or excuse me plug in hybrid Is what everyone is calling it Where it has an electric motor and some of them are very reasonable Like I think the Prius Prime is able to do something like 80-85 miles an hour on the electric motor Like it's not or 77 or something Whatever it's like highway cruising very comfortably very quickly speed And with a range of about 22 miles It's like everyone's in like that high teens to low to mid 20s range With a range like that I do kind of see it as best of both worlds Where you can do your daily commute probably on the electric motor And then the gas engine which has got a range of 300 to 350 miles On most of the cars that I was looking at That will handle anything that is not covered by pure electric That strikes me as a potentially much more convenient solution If you only have one car So while I agree with you depending on your lifestyle Pure electric could be the one car If I was going to make a $35,000 investment that I was planning to keep for however many years I also definitely see the value of a plug-in hybrid I understand that I just think the amount of people that expect to drive 107.5 miles in one direction and back a day is a little crazy The amount of times people are going to go on a road trip It would be very cost effective to save the money not buying a plug-in hybrid And just buying an electric and then just renting a car Unless a plug-in hybrid is very similarly priced to a pure electric If it is but I don't see the added literal mechanics that have to go into the car Not making some other form of difference to make it the same price You might lose a trim level somewhere You might lose something in order to make it the same price I feel like that would happen because you're literally adding things to the car So you're thinking potentially even longer term than me Where you don't want to do any maintenance on the car pretty much Other than replacing your battery pack periodically That isn't even what I was saying but that is a very good point and I'll take it What I was saying was literally putting those functions in the car Would increase the raw cost of the car Right So like trim level would have to go down or something to make it an equal price Remember too though that they have much smaller batteries Like way smaller batteries and that is a huge part of the cost of an electric car And that super sucks then Yes but I mean they have much lower range to correspond to their much smaller batteries Here's another consideration though So Musk also said that the Model 3 is going to be capable of 0-60 in under 6 seconds No one is quoting 0-60 times on the plug-in hybrids that I saw at the auto show So I don't expect those electric Everyone is quoting top speeds which does not mean that you're getting torque off the line I mean you'll probably still be doing okay because it is an electric motor But it is not the same kind of electric motor that you would find in a Model S or even a Model 3 Which like some people are going to say like oh yeah well like you can't speed because it's illegal or whatever Anyways having fast pickup is actually very very helpful Very useful it's one of the things that I like most about riding on a motorbike Is the fact that people say hey riding on a motorcycle is really dangerous And if you get hit you're probably dead on the highway Like to be realistic I think motorcycle helmets have any functionality up to about 60-65 kmph Past that they do pretty much nothing You might as well be wearing a baseball hat Don't tell my wife I said that I'm actually putting the bike back on the road very very soon Awesome But one of the counter arguments that I make about riding a bike is that A. My visibility is so much better than you Because I actually have my full field of vision with no obstructions whatsoever B. I am smaller than you So someone can actually be encroaching on my lane by a meter And I can still be in my lane and not being hit by that person Number 3 is I am way more agile than you So as long as I have my head on a swivel I have seen a motorcycle dodge an accident that another car ended up getting in I have seen it on the road He saw it coming and just I was just supposed to have stepped on it But that's not really how that works Got out of there really quickly and then the car ended up careening into someone else Having fast pickup I would argue based on my experience as a rider If you have your eyes not just on the road but all around you Having fast pickup is as important or more important than fast braking If you want to avoid accidents What I like most about my bike is it makes me much more able to avoid a bad situation Things are much more on you Yes Being a defensive rider is while I'm not going to say safe Is not as dangerous as I think people would potentially believe If they had only ever been behind the wheel of a car and had never ridden a bike So I definitely see having torque as a very important safety feature in a vehicle I don't remember who did it but they did a video on their electric car showing that it was slower than a whole bunch of other cars Then they showed that off the line it was really fast They're like yeah you're not going to get the top speed at a few miles of this Challenger or whatever But in a city when all that really matters is you maybe being able to get in front of the other person right after the intersection Make that light Yeah exactly that kind of stuff you can do those things very effectively which is probably all you're really going to be able to use anyways Because you're probably not going to take this car to a track and that's realistically the only time you'd be able to use that So that's actually kind of interesting So let's move on to our next topic I just realized we had spent like 20 minutes talking about the Model 3 I'm on the show I'm sorry? I'm on the show and we're talking about electric cars We could just keep going it's fine Yeah I know right Virtual reality or electric cars it's fine It'll be okay So this was originally posted by Nine Shadow on the forum Lawmakers pushing to make owning an unregistered prepaid phone illegal in the US So the original article here is from Android Authorita And yes yes Matrix references are very clever Authorita Authorita So there's a new bill in the works called the Prepaid Mobile Device Security Gap Act of 2016 If it passes anyone who purchases a prepaid cell phone will be forced to register their identity with the device And this law is being pushed forward by Jackie Speyer a Democratic representative from California So supporters of the bill are saying that it's a solution to the loophole That is allowing you know, Meridu Wells to purchase prepaid phones as ways to conduct their illicit business And that's definitely a thing And that is definitely a reality One thing that I wonder about these days though is like you ban this They're just going to buy smartphones without a plan and start using other applications A lot more expensive Two bit drug dealers can't afford to run out and buy There's $2 smartphones now Hold on a second Yeah but if you were to buy that then you would have to What if you buy it off a plan? You would have to register their identity with the device Well that's what people are doing right now Is they're buying devices Oh wait so we're talking about prepaid cell phones Yeah this would not be a You would not have cellulars You buy a $20 smartphone off a plan and then use Wi-Fi and what not You could yeah I mean yeah but the thing though Because you could even hotspot Wi-Fi is quite traceable though Relatively speaking Yeah I mean Wi-Fi gives you the location That gives you potentially a security camera feed nearby Like if you were making calls off Wi-Fi and Starbucks No I was thinking making a hotspot from your phone Oh I see yeah but then even then That can be traced back to that device again So it VPNs and stuff like I don't know I don't think it's the hardest thing to get around I would argue that the average two bit drug dealer does not know how to use a VPN Yeah that's probably fair But then they just need like one techie dude and their crew to hook them up with cell phones Yeah but I would argue that Probably many of them do not have that And if they did that's a more elegant solution than running around buying We need more of those like classic gangster squad groups where there's like the hacker guy on the laptop And like the thug dude and then like the funny guy that drives the car And like yeah anyways that's how crime works in my mind Every movie ever Yeah yeah It's like that's your major in crime school Which dude you are Yeah wow that's perfect I wonder how many people remember crime school More than you'd think People have been bringing it up to me Yeah I mean I guess to me This doesn't feel so much like taking away a freedom as As closing a gap that was introduced accidentally Because it's not like when phones were introduced a line wasn't tied to a physical address And then later on when cell phones were introduced a line wasn't tied to a person who also had a physical address When the yellow pages started was it literally everyone was in it Like everyone with a Yeah white pages and you're so young So the yellow pages are for businesses And the white pages are for individuals Both of my book had both of them in it We actually did use it it's been a long time But yes so it used to be that you actually would contact I had looked up people that I knew in the I guess white pages like when I was a kid in order to be like I know this dude's name but I don't remember his phone number and then I could just find him literally And you would just like call all the like P Fernandez Yes yeah there might be a few of the same name or whatever So it used to be that you actually had to pay to not be included So you had to you had to I think it was it was either B C tell that you contacted or it was yellow pages Or can pages or whatever they would call at the time it's can pages now It used to be so you would contact them and then there was a processing fee involved and you could get an unlisted number That was where unlisted numbers came from So yeah so the whole idea of being able to have a phone line anonymously is actually very new So I can see why they want to close this gap I really doubt that this law will be pushed through And if it is pushed through I doubt there will be any real way to enforce this Because in much the same way that you can go to NCIX and you can tell them your name is John Smith And create a customer profile around that The law isn't about buying phones and having them registered The law is about being on a plan having a pay as you go plan that's unregistered So I guess what I don't understand is if you have a pay as you go plan what prevents you then from Okay sorry not phone then Yeah it's more about the sims and stuff Refill card so if I have a pay as you go plan what prevents me from registering it with fake information And you could say yes there will be all these regulations in place to prevent you from doing that But at the end of the day that's not going to stop Joe 2-bit corner store guy from actually Walking to your house and verifying that you actually live there What personal information are we expecting people to submit in order to register for their prepaid plan You can probably buy prepaid stuff I wonder if it's going to stop online sales of prepaid stuff You might have to show your drivers license in store Maybe but then how will you enforce that I mean I guess what you can do then is you can make it the problem of the corner store and then you can shut them down But it's going to be a long and uphill battle Yeah I just People are saying you could ask for social security number I mean come on What do you have to provide your social security number That's brutal Like that's terrible That's really brutal If that's the solution And I'm not giving Then I oppose this Yeah I'm not giving my SIN or SSN or whatever to any random like corner store or big box store employee There's no way that's happening Not in a freaking lifetime I mean Not some employee who will have my like name, address, phone number on file with my social security or whatever And identity theft! Shut up! Yeah 3000% in the state of California That's like the worst idea oh my god Yeah so no that would be terrible I refuse to go to a Nick Light switched gyms we used to work out together and he switched gyms And then the new gym they take your bank account information and then withdraw money directly from your bank account And I was like okay I'm not going to your gym Because it's just I don't like that They can't just take a credit card No They refuse to take credit card they refuse to take cash they refuse to take It's like a 3% processing fee It has to be on time billing and it has to be withdrawn directly from your bank account But then you can get overdrawn I know I was just like nah dude I'm out like I don't know I don't like giving people that kind of information like checks passing back and forth my mind is insane I don't really want people to know me anyways Yeah Just insanity Speaking of insanity Sponsors They're insane to sponsor us Wait no I should say that You should sponsor 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customers, take deposits Get payment from your customers and they support a variety of different payment methods Including allowing you, the business owner, to see that the customer has received your electronic invoice Which is very very cool So they can be like oh yeah man I totally didn't get your email No no no I didn't read it Yeah sorry I'm late yeah I just got it today Yeah no you didn't So FreshBooks is great whether you're a plumber, you run a small dance studio, you do small time computer repair I love how the examples are always your parents My parents or me, it's just like my family Okay no let's come up with something that no one in your family has ever done That's going to be in the January Let's say for example, let's say for example you know driving for the local movie productions that are being done here Or say for example doing some work for the fire department in the city of Langley Or oh I don't know teaching at a community college here in Vancouver Or you know 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liked a lot Went there a few times tried to get a membership there The problem was you have to pay on the exact same day every single month and you have to pay in cash in an envelope And if you miss it your key fob dies and you can't come in you have to make an appointment with the guy that owns it And then you can pay again so I was there for a month and then never again I could have told him that you're not organized enough to do that Well I was literally out of the country for work and I was like this is gonna happen way too much I'm out of here So yeah anyways Okay let's talk about holoportation Original article here is from Gizmodo And that is some cool shiz that we got going on right there So right now you're seeing it where he's scaled it down quite a bit But realistically this is a previous recording He's the one facing away from the main camera here That's him and his daughter That's a previous recording that he had just done in that room like minutes before he shows this demo So what he's trying to show is that you can do it in real time You can have conversations with people or your family or your coworkers or whatever And then you could theoretically play it back So if you want to like relive a memory So say you had your family over for dinner And you had everyone hanging out in the family room afterwards And your family was crazy and said crazy stuff and denied it later You could record it and then give it to everyone in the family to either relive those fantastic memories Or to prove your accusations later on I guess is where that may or may not have been going But this is cool for a whole bunch of reasons One of them is being able to have people there say in family situations that might live across the country Other ones are different companies that might not have everyone working in the same place We're in the same place Some larger companies have multiple offices around the world If you want to work with someone it is actually legitimately kind of easier to do things If you feel like you're in the same room And these things... How out of business are these guys? Are so dumb in my opinion I've never been into these They like... you can control them and like wheel them around and there's a screen on it and a webcam And they just don't matter in my opinion at all Oh I have to go up the stairs You want to pick me up? I'm probably pretty heavy You can put me up there and then I can keep wheeling around I don't know I always thought that was kind of a stupid thing But this is actually kind of cool If you go to the video and probably mute it But go to the very beginning He's interacting with a dude Now to be fair all of this looks like it was kind of previously recorded Because the skits are just so bad But it might actually just be because the skits are so bad that it feels like it was previously recorded Before he even said that you could record them I thought they were recordings So this... yeah he's interacting with this guy So theoretically... there you go You see he kind of like teleports into the room And you can tell he's digital but it's pretty good That's crazy hey Yeah so one thing to note is that the camera that's filming this Has HoloLens equipmenty stuff on it so that it can overlay things in real time But that's not obviously exactly what you would see So what the HoloLens would actually more kind of see is in the bottom left hand corner So the colour is much less accurate It doesn't look nearly as good But you can see where it's going and this is a dev kit or whatever so... It's pretty cool See they can't actually high five Very very cool though It's super and you can see... Cameras also was there You can see the cameras and there's more of them behind them There's cameras all throughout the room and they're actually pretty crazy cameras Yeah This is maybe not going to be in your home right away But a super cool this will actually eventually happen kind of deal And once they get them down to the size of like kind of the lighthouse sensors for the Vive Which at this point I'm way more excited for than the Rift But that's maybe for a different day Once they get them down to that size and the HoloLens isn't this like giant thing that you have to wear on your face And it's more like glasses That's going to be insane Absolutely insane I don't know I really like the idea of telecommuting Not necessarily telecommunication But telecommuting like being able to go to work digitally I think that's going to be super cool especially for congestion and population density in crazy cities Because if we get better internet infrastructure outside of just cities And people are able to commute to work which is 10 hours away instantaneously That's awesome We don't have to have everyone in these crazy high rises right really close to their work all the time And we don't have problems like in Vancouver Where our land in actual Vancouver is fairly restricted and everyone has to live super far out And houses cost like 2 million dollars Mountains, water, United States of America, congestion Yes exactly So people being able to telecommute into Vancouver would help so many things I mean for employers it would be great if I could hire someone where I just kind of go Okay so you're proposing that I pay your relocation costs Your labor market impact assessment charge Which by the way is very expensive with the lawyers involved in all that Like we hired an American a little while ago Not easier for him but we looked into the LMIA It is very expensive, very complicated and very time consuming There's a company in Vancouver Hootsuite who has recently released a blog Talking about how it's becoming excessively difficult for them to hire anyone Because it's becoming excessively difficult for talented young people to live in Vancouver So there's a mass exodus of young talent in Vancouver We don't live in Vancouver for a very specific reason because it's too freaking expensive to live in So this makes life a little bit better for employers because I can say okay how about this Instead of paying your relocation costs and all those other associated fees Why don't I just set you up like a space where you're going to kind of live And then if I ever want to talk to you then I'll flip on my presumably much more high tech And much less clunky HoloLens glasses I'll pay for you to have a setup next to your desk that you actually just set aside at your house wherever you live And if I ever need to talk to you I'll know where you are Yeah seriously and you could literally have like just a corner or whatever Because it doesn't have to be very fancy on your end But just where they sit theoretically and you could go see them quite physically You could see them working at their desk and you could be like what's that And it could be projected and everything could be kind of cool I don't know Very cool Speaking of things that are cool this was originally posted by KudaCores on the forum And the original article here is from WCCF Tech And the Intel Broadwell EP family has been launched So this is the Xeon E5 2600 V4 family based on the Broadwell architecture So the servers are actually lagging more than a full architecture behind the desktop products these days But the good news about this is this means that Extreme Edition on LGA 2011.3 can't be far behind So hopefully we'll be getting some new enthusiast desktop Extreme Edition chips that aren't based on Sorry what are they? They're still Haswell based aren't they? Yeah so Intel is actually spanning three architectures right now They're running Skylake on the mainstream desktop They've got Broadwell based chips on the server side And then they are still running Haswell on the enthusiast side which is like anyway So they finally launched them they make use of their 14 nanometer core architecture Increased core count, core IPC improvements as we already know Because there's not a whole lot we don't know about this We're talking Haswell to Broadwell, this happened a while ago And better performance per watt compared to the existing chips The main cool thing, 22 threads, multi-threaded 22 cores Or 22 cores sorry, 44 threads Yeah right there baby So of course I'll be calling up my contacts at Intel and being like Yo I want two One is not enough No one CPU can be enough for me We're getting with GPU announcements on the horizon and this kind of happening We're getting into compensator territory again Yep Because compensator can't, I had someone message me the other day And they're like how are you going to do one when he just made the 7Gamers1 CPU $30,000 computer How do you make a compensator which was not nearly as expensive as that When that just happened I think it can still happen I think so Because it's more, the compensator was never like literally the most insane thing you can possibly build It was like what are the most expensive but still consumer kind of things that you can get Not dual CPU motherboard and all that stuff And intended for one user Yes The compensator machine delivers more horsepower to a single user than 7Gamers1 CPU could have actually On the GPU side of things anyway So there you have it There's no reason why we can't still do a compensator In fact I've already got GPUs lined up for it Oh nice I didn't know that I do Okay I wonder what those are I actually don't know All I know is that I'm getting whatever they are Seriously Not even joking That's awesome It's like it's NDA so no one can tell me anything They're like yes you are getting them You'll get a thing Yeah Okay So 7.2 billion transistors on a 456mm2 die Where's the 22 cores maximum That is freaking insane Three die variants Oh this is interesting So this is not necessarily the traditional way of doing multiple CPU skews So what we've seen in the Sort of more traditionally in the past is that the Xeon and the Pentium 4 would have been based on the exact same die Just with a couple of features laser cut off of the Pentium 4 one or whatever else And anything from a 2.4 to a 3.46 GHz or whatever would have all been based on the exact same die And it's just a binning process Well now we've got three dies One that can accommodate 4-10 cores with 3.4 billion transistors One from 12 to 15 with 4.7 billion And the flagship 16 to 24 core with 7. whatever billion transistors Freaking cool So epic What can they tell us about this one I want to know what it boosts to 2.2 GHz base 3.6 boost not bad Wow that's ridiculous Oh I did not think it was going to boost to that at all And it tells us on a per core basis Do you know how hard it is to find this chart for anything from Intel Seriously have you ever tried to find the actual boost breakdown I actually have and I have actually failed It is so annoying So this is wow look how aggressive Turbo boost 2.2.0 is here So up to 11 cores 11 cores so up to 10 cores You're getting anywhere from plus 18 over the base 1.8 frequency I don't know why they even call it a base frequency if you're going to do plus 8 So okay so here let me do the math So with 22 cores active you get 18 plus 8 so 2.6 GHz And then with as few as like 3 or 4 cores active You can actually get up pretty close you can get like 3.3 GHz Very very interesting Hmm So the 2683v4 is a very interesting skew because it's got a very similar base frequency to the 2699 It's got 16 cores which is still an awful lot by the way Only two fewer than the previous flagship at 18 And it turbos up almost the same up to its full 16 cores Which not necessarily all of them do Oh this one's this one's sexy too The 2697v4 that's an 18 core So that would be a direct replacement for the 2699v3 that I have now But looks like it can actually turbo up more aggressively Base frequency of 2.0 Man there's a lot of skews this time around Very very very interesting Goes all the way down to a quad course So that gets me excited not necessarily all of you but whatever Um I don't really care about that one Yeah let's do some of the April Fools jokes that have been around This was supposed to by ElphinSky on the forum So Razer did project bread winner the Razer toaster Which it appears they actually did produce toast with Razer logos on it In order to make the video of They put so much work into this video Like as a video production company I can tell you guys that with all the different talents that they had Including some fairly notable game streamers and internet personalities Like where's uh where's what's his face Mr. Castle's Over there he's in here where do you go They probably cut him out a lot because Because there he is look at this guy Uh anyway um They put a lot of freaking work into this thing Honestly in my opinion at 6 minutes The joke is kind of old by that point especially because it's Obviously April Fools When I clicked on it I was very surprised at how long it was But uh But I will say though that um It was good NCXT's was probably a little short I was I was gonna wait till we got to that one but yeah what the heck And a little bit low effort Um so oh wait what is this press release But the actual landing page seems kind of fine Have you noticed that Because all I saw at first was the They super try to harvest your email with a pop up right away Wow Which is super lame Way to go guys Thanks guys just kind of wanted to enjoy uh April Fools joke Already on your mailing list didn't need that Anyways Um they did some like weird VR thing with like VRs in the heel Which was a little excessive they should just go with the lighting joke And the video which I don't know where it is Yeah it's here There you go The video is like the most half ass thing I've ever seen Ohhhhhhhhhh Like it's not like it's just a static image Yeah Um And like it's literally a product that's actually been made Like those shoes exist And like that's not even that far off for NZXT to make them To be completely honest This is probably the most believable one that I've seen yet I thought this was actually kind of cool I kind of wish there was G4CTX energy drinks Yeah so just an energy drink get your drink And like if you buy like a like a They only come in packs up to four You buy like SLI packs You get like a slight discount if you buy like dual SLI If you SLI them together It's funny because you don't in real life No I know On video cards I know If you buy them together you can like click them together and then drink from like one thing But it's both of them or something I don't know It would be kind of cool So that was I thought that was done really well That was pretty cute They've got graphs for increasing your reaction time and such sort of Yeah people are saying like I would actually buy this and stuff like yeah That would actually be kind of cool This is really trippy look at this I'm like clicking here and it's going down What the That's actually really weird There there I found it What the heck There I found it So this is how fast you are without it This is how fast you are with it It's just obviously a sped up video of the same Yeah Which is I think in video Exactly how they should have done it The right amount of effort into their April Fools joke The NZXT thing seems like an afterthought that they put a good web designer on And then were like try to get this out really quickly and oh yeah don't forget Make sure you try to harvest as many emails as you possibly can when they try to watch this Which kind of sucked The Nvidia thing actually seemed really genuinely good The Razer thing seems like they got super massively into it This is so cool I actually ended up watching a fair amount of these videos because they're just kind of awesome Have you? No I actually haven't watched any of the videos Do you know anything about this? Not much Okay so it actually doesn't explain it that well here So what's really going on is they had Snoop Dogg sit in a theater with some other I'm assuming YouTube employees And they watched the videos on a big theater screen so like this And he just comments the video from the background So you can like turn it around and look at him and he'll just like talk about the video while it's playing But it's Snoop Dogg so it's awesome And then you can rotate it back and actually like watch the video It's actually kind of cool What was frustrating was like I'd watch some random video on YouTube and it would have a Snoop Vision Or whatever it's called Snoopa Vision Snoopa Vision Logo and I'd be like oh sweet like they did this one that's so cool But then no there's just a little set of the ones that they did There's obviously not everything So like that water blue one is actually done in Snoopa Vision So it's 360 and you can turn the camera around and see him sitting there and talking about it It's actually kind of cool Binge on Up was pretty funny This was one where they put a ton of effort into it and it actually like kind of worked out No Sorry What was that? That was them wanting to know my location So it's like a headset thing that just makes it so that your phone is like in front of your face It goes with their binge on thing where you can watch tons of different services without using your data So their whole idea is like well if you're using that service and it's not using your data you can just do it all the time Yeah the problem is that Rick Mercer has already done it And if an amazing Canadian like Rick Mercer has already done it then you lose Yeah This was a long time ago this was when Blackberry was relevant I love this video See? Rick Mercer, genius Oh no, nevermind, his didn't actually have a spot for the helmet Nevermind, sorry it had a signal booster and it made it so that if you walk into the Okay so no Rick Mercer has not quite done it I'm pretty sure this thing's been done though Yeah I'm pretty sure that a phone holder You know what's really funny is I actually would like a product sort of like this Except for the bed, headrest or the headboard Have I talked to you about that? No it just makes sense Yeah Because the amount of times I'll be like this Right I'm really tired and then drop it, it just smacks right in the face And it'd be perfect for things like a Kindle as well Yeah, oh yeah I love reading in bed but like you get uncomfortable on the side You get uncomfortable with that Like if you could build a versatile enough arm that it's strong enough to hold a Kindle, a tablet or a real book even And then you could just have it so you could like turn the pages and just like have like a clip on Oh man, that would be like the most comfortable way to read ever Might even be a thing I would never get out of my bed ever again Yeah So who gets your vote for the best April Fool's joke? Hmm I enjoyed Snoopavision the most Enjoyed Snoopavision the most? I think NVIDIA's was very well executed I enjoyed Snoopavision the most More believable Yeah Yeah Like it's gotten to the point where I think there's a fine line where Between ad campaign and April Fool's joke? Yeah, and between like, between making it funny because like, because it's April Fool's versus actually trying to fool people Was yours actually trying to fool people though? Mine was trying to walk the fine line where I was pretty sure that some people would believe it But that I wanted people to mostly know that I wasn't serious by the time they reached the end of the video Because that's like a semi-dangerous thing for people to think is actually happening Yeah, I don't want people to actually And you know what though? I think as much as a lot of people posted on the video Like this was super obvious and you guys are idiots This is just another bad video that you've made The number of people that also have like not just publicly like Ha ha ha ha, I am playing along with the April Fool Wow, you got me But the number of people that have reached out to me privately asking if it actually happened I don't think I've had any of those That's funny So I think we walked the line just right Yeah, because I liked it I was just trying to dissect your point I guess But yeah, I like the R's Yeah, Nvidia, Nvidia I think had a very well executed one I enjoyed YouTube's the most which I'm not too surprised about YouTube always does such a great job There's more Google ones in here that I guess didn't make it into the doc Like the, I think it's called the Google parachute Yeah, that's in here Oh, never mind Parachute by Google Express I was just, I was skipping past it because we're really close to 6 o'clock Yeah, and this one's kind of annoying because oh it worked for you I had to put in a zip code before I could actually see it But this one's kind of funny Shop anywhere anytime and it like parachutes you whatever you're buying I thought it was pretty funny I think it's kind of funny because like Amazon Probably not that far off Might get to this point with drones where you could be like walking around town and be like I want a soft drink and it just like brings you one Like I wouldn't even be that surprised if that ends up happening So like I don't know That one definitely didn't win for me because I was just like that could totally be a thing Maybe not with parachutes but like Alright, let's jump through some of our rapid fire topics here First up we've got that AMD announces the Fire Pro S9300 X2 Dual Fiji for HPC So yeah pretty much it's a Fury Pro Duo except with a completely different everything about it Except for the GPU cores themselves Six thousand dollars Yeah, different PCB, different cooling design So these are designed to be in a chassis where the cooling is taken care of by the chassis So there's no fan so it just goes in here and then out the back And it's got an awful lot of stream processors and it's got a big boost clock and there's two GPUs on it I'm a little surprised that it's only got 4GB of RAM 300 Watt All I have to say about this is that Polaris and Pascal can't come soon enough I am so tired of talking about 28 nanometer GPUs Yup Windows 10 is possibly getting, well okay, is getting I guess Ubuntu's bash and Linux command line Which is kind of crazy so apparently you can write.sh scripts on Windows And they're getting command line and stuff because they're baking that into Windows 10 And I have no idea why they're doing this Well DOS is gone so people might want it I know but like, okay, I like that it's happening I don't understand it from a Microsoft perspective Is anyone complaining about PowerShell? Well yeah Okay, well then maybe they're... I just don't see this changing anyone's mind on anything So you don't understand why they wouldn't just make PowerShell better? Or... Well people being more used to things and stuff is cool but like, I just, okay, I don't know how to phrase this properly I understand why this is going to be cool for people I'm surprised Microsoft did it and I don't understand why they did it Like what would be your inspiration as a Microsoft employee to be like, we should do this Well they want, basically everything they've done since Nadella took over has been about increasing the install base Making sure to not only not continue to lose, not continue to erode the latest version of Windows install base But claw back market share Claw it back from piracy, claw it back from Apple, claw it back from even Linux However insignificant that install base might be within certain user groups Because there would be educational institutions for example that would have compelling reasons to use and would use Linux And in those cases I would see something like this being the thing that could make us go, okay, now we could have these elements of both worlds With this, via this new Linux subsystem within Windows 10 Like, yeah, like I like it, I'm not saying I don't like it, it's cool If the objective is to actually try to sell your product by doing things that are good for your users, then I get it It just doesn't seem like a Microsoft move That's why I'm confused, like that's the, yeah Yeah, I'm not, yeah I'm not I'm not saying it's a bad idea, I think it's a great idea When I read that I was like wow, that's really cool, makes things easier in a whole bunch of different ways That's awesome, I'm just, just doesn't seem like Microsoft, that's all I don't know Um, Apple is developing batteries to improve energy capacity in devices, this was posted by Sans Varmic on the forum And the original article here is from PC World I guess that's about like saying that Apple is developing screens that display images to the users of their phones But I'm sure there is, I'm sure there is more to it than that Um, I mean, you know maybe it's not quite They're focusing on ceramic Maybe it's not quite the same as that because Apple actually hasn't done pretty much anything to their battery capacity Other than release the iPhone 6 Plus, which just is bigger and has a bigger battery in it in the last little while I sure wish they would just do a thicker phone with a higher capacity battery, please Not that they'll ever listen to me, I'm sure they don't care what I have to say You worked on the show for that, what do you think about the SE? Um, I, you like small phones? I think that they're desperate I think that they straight up are pulling a Samsung and going We can't figure out how to sell more phones, so let's just throw more models at the problem Okay That's what I think happened You're not excited because it's smaller or anything? I think they are, I think they're basically slashing price without trying to I think they are putting off for as long as possible, slashing the price of the flagship device by creating an entry level tier I think it didn't work well last time with the iPhone 5C But I think that the reason that didn't work was that um The 5C was built from the ground up to be cheap in a way that was very obvious, unapologetically obvious I hate that word And then there's the issue with what they've done in the past where they've just sold previous generation devices But those were not designed to be cheap devices and I think the manufacturing costs are higher so I can see why they're doing it They're building something from the ground up to be cheap but not that cheap And they are giving, they're taking the fight to the entry level smartphone makers sort of At least in the best way that Apple can do that on from a pricing standpoint But I think they basically just aren't sure what to do to keep selling more phones Because much like with many other devices, phones are really getting to the point where yes the Galaxy S7 is marvelous And I'm going to be switching to it but if I already owned a Galaxy S6 and I actually paid for phones I sure as heck wouldn't be doing that You received California Irvine? Hold on, I wanted to touch on a little bit more about this So focusing on ceramic as the electrolyte, they've proven in labs that they can provide faster charging and safer batteries Which is a concern They're also hiring people that can take battery technology from the lab to the factories And they already got granted a patent for developing a solid state battery This could be considered the next big technology in battery research Good Good Cool University of California Irvine announces an eSports scholarship So by the start of 2016, six private schools had developed scholarships based on the game Which is League of Legends in this kind of context This is the first public state run school to officially support eSports They're talking about building a little land cafe and everything on campus which I guess would be kind of like your field? Yeah I mean if you're going to have a basketball court you might as well have a land center Yeah I mean if you're taking eSports seriously and you're going to have scholarships for it You should probably have somewhere for them to go Anyways, the cafe will be built in the model of Korean PC gaming cafes and will offer a premium League of Legends experience I wonder if that includes my favorite part of those cafes Which is where they like bring you food and stuff directly to your thing Probably not I seriously doubt it So they probably mean like sponsored gaming chairs But like still, I don't know, this is kind of cool We're getting closer and closer to like VJHS Yep We like actually are So that's going to get interesting I don't know Someone's going to interview like Freddie W in like 15 years or whatever and be like How did you know this vision was going to come true? It's going to be like shit man I didn't know I thought it was funny I'm making a joke I just figured it was kind of cool I made a video with my bros Yeah eSports is cool, this is cool Like it's starting to become a very viable career for an actually not insignificant amount of people Yeah and not just a professional career but also like an indie career through services like Twitch Yep, yep So like it actually kind of makes sense I'm making fun of it because it's kind of funny But it does actually kind of make sense Riot Games has a guy Okay a guy whose job title is Collegiate Program Manager Go figure Yeah Who saw this one coming? You know Umm I think that's the show Yeah pretty much Let's see Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah Oh the PlayStation 4.5 is kind of interesting Umm so this is everyone's calling it 4.5 could be called 4K or something like that But word on the street is that Sony will be launching an updated PlayStation with roughly double the performance of the previous PlayStation Whether that's enough to actually get them to reasonable performance at 4K is still very very much to be determined Like no But Why you gotta use your wet blanket But like we I did that test like years ago Why don't you just go to Japan, okay, pull up to Sony's headquarters and take a giant dump on the lawn Why don't you just do that if you're gonna be such a downer Okay minus the dump on the lawn part we should like do a diplomatic mission as a video sometime Like I don't know if it's to Sony or whatever but we should just like show up somewhere We could choke a valve We want to help you with your design stuff Stop putting glossy plastic on your controllers there valve perfect done Do not put glossy plastic on the top of your damn controllers My dad ended up watching that review because he was like kind of interested because couch gaming is totally in his realm of things that he would like to do And he saw the glossy plastic part and was just like what? Why? I recently had a conversation with someone where I was like like I was half joking because I thought I was talking to someone like kind of lower down on the totem pole And I was just like and I was like yeah and I can't believe you guys put freaking glossy plastic on it And it turned out it was the person who like made the decision and he was like why Was this gigabyte? I don't remember Okay because at CES I had a conversation with Gigabyte about their NUCs Really? Yeah their bricks and the guy was like yeah we put mad on it I think it was a monitor guy for me Oh yeah no it was the guy that manages bricks he was like we put mad on it I hope that's okay I was like that's awesome He was like oh what you're not like mad that there isn't glossy? I was like what are you talking about? Who are these people? Do you read anything? Have you watched any of our videos? Like come on And not just us Any ones I mean I'm pretty sure we're not the only ones here We're not We're not Right? I shouldn't have said our videos like have you looked at reviews of things at all? Like the what was it the fury nano that has like the glass over top of the glossy? Uh no What product is it that did that? Because that was cool that was fine Because the glass is nice and easy to clean and the glossy plastic under the glass stays Gets protected and doesn't get scratched instantly I don't remember what product it is Good job but you know what I'm yeah whatever Someone did it it looks great that was a good implementation of it Just putting glossy plastic especially in places that you're going to touch It's so dumb and I don't understand how they haven't figured this out yet Back to the PlayStation 4 and a half A more likely reason for its existence is to compete properly with VR computers So if because I mean we did the math back when Sony was saying well you know Due to our special sauce we are this much more efficient we're this much for this much 60 Hertz per eye we can make it okay if we do some fancy interpolation whatever else We did the math and it still didn't add up Yeah it was still weird If they have a PlayStation that is twice as powerful now it makes sense So if you want to have a proper VR experience it looks like you're probably going to be buying a PlayStation 4K Or 4 and a half or you know 4 VR edition or whatever the case may be So I think that pretty much wraps it up Thank you guys for tuning into the WAN Show We will see you again next week same bat time same bat channel If you're tuning in late the upload will be up in about six hours on the YouTube channel