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Alright guys welcome to the show we've got a bunch of great topics for you today Google has approved a Cyanogen Mod phone so apparently those guys are no longer you know jilted lovers and are now talking to each other I don't know that they were ever you know lovers but they I mean they worked together if you get it you know working together but BitTorrent sync looks like it could be the final solution to personal cloud so I mean if it exterminates every other personal cloud solution out there I will be extremely pleased by that because it looks amazing secure private no limits have they talked about cost is there gonna be a cost associated with the program? None. They're saying it's free or the beta is free? They're saying it's it's BitTorrent it's free. Alright because that is extremely exciting we're gonna have Jason from Jays2cents joining us shortly there's our little guest lower third that's a preview of that don't look too closely at it someone's gonna scrub back and stare at it for no reason no reason just because you said just cuz I told them not to do it all right go ahead what else you introduced some topics for a change there's been a lot of really really big acquisitions this year and one of them is going to be a Vago acquiring LSI so that's actually pretty big deal some people are like oh Vago just makes the switches in my mouth no it's sensors sensors yeah mouse sensors no not so much other things too a lot bigger deal and then T-mobile is kind of leaking possibly information about un-carrier 4 which looks really interesting and ties into their other un-carrier schemes as well I just spilled water on my laptop good thing I hate this laptop but unfortunately I need to use it for the next little while here so we're just gonna blow out the water and hope that works alright guys without further ado here is a intro so guys our sponsor today is Squarespace head over to Squarespace.com and use offer code Linus12 in order to get 10% off your first paid subscription to Squarespace so Squarespace is the easy way to create a beautiful functional website for your blog business store or whatever else you happen to need one for someone was saying the intro works yeah I know I'm wondering if we might know right who high bitrate for a lot of people we're too high bitrate some people are have like 30 megabits per second down and they're on low and it's buffering like crazy well that shouldn't be because we're a partner so it should scale in theory yeah but I'm wondering what it scales to like I wonder if there's different scale levels for low depending on what your top end is I have no idea what you're talking about people are saying it's twitch apparently that's very possible that's very possible too all right anyway guys let's jump right into our first topic here which is going to be actually a twitch related topic so check this out we're gonna head over to gforce.com where the gforce experience has been updated so gforce experience 1.8 introduced shadow play which is a way of using the h264 encoding hardware built onto your Kepler based gforce GPU so that is 650 Ti boost and up in order to record your gameplay videos with a very very negligible performance hit now gforce experience 1.8.1 introduces shadow play twitch streaming so there's like a video of a guy so it's Warframe okay cool okay we're gonna stop that now because we don't want our video to get taken down quick move it anyway okay for those of you who haven't been following there's like a big there's a big hubbub on the YouTube right now for people who are uploading gameplay footage and getting takedown notices that are taking down their videos it's sort of a big deal right now so my favorite thing has been when people are like I'm just gonna show a little bit so probably won't get taken down it's like well you know what you're doing is gonna get the video taken down then I don't want to hear any complaints but if you really were a victim here then that's a whole other thing so anyway gforce experience 1.8.1 now allows you to live stream so let's face it it doesn't have quite the same degree of flexibility that something like XSplit does where you can have all these different inputs and there's HDMI in here and webcam in there and you know your gameplay window there and so there's there's a few things that aren't really perfect about it so it's it's still very much in beta alt tabbing interrupts your stream for example there's very limited functionality compared to dedicated broadcast software like XSplit still no Linux support but if the objective is to play DirectX games and stream them on Twitch and do a little commentary it's so funny because I mean I love Nvidia I heart them they're my friends but there's there's some pretty there's some pretty sort of lame terminology in here enable you to blah blah blah we're updating something something I think they said something like do your commentaries or something like that no actually oh I must have read it wrong okay well they did fine it was me who this interpreted it yeah I was like I don't remember anything being weird in there I'm going to try it in the after party but it's gonna crash when I hold tab so I'll try it like once and then we'll just see if it works and then go from there yeah cool that's about it I think that's pretty exciting it's interesting because it's it's gonna open the door to a lot more people cuz I know one of the big problems when my brother first started trying to do starcraft casting was he tried to do it off of like a laptop while he was at an event it was like oh there's quite a few people commenting that right if you're used to watching our stream on high you may want to turn it down because high will be a higher bit rate than usual we're on our fiber connection now yes we are I'm just wondering if it might be worse because people that want to watch on higher jumping up a resolution as well so now that people used to watch on high they might have to go to a lower resolution because of our bitrate but high resolution at a low bit rate looks like ass anyway so they're probably better off watching at 720p I don't know I'm interested I'm interested too well at any rate we're ready to move into our next topic which is a Vago to acquire LSI now I have to confess that I am one of the people who I like I generally consider myself to be sort of in the know when it's like oh Linus what does Toshiba know about the SSDs and I'm like a whole lot believe it or not because they manufacture nan flash well I had no idea that a Vago was this big so within within the last year there's actually been quite a few things that have happened one of the one of the things that happened not that long ago was actually LSI acquiring sand force so that was at the time the dominant SSD controller well I can't huh you can't call them maker because they don't they didn't actually fab anything but but they own the IP and they design yeah the designer the control the controller designer for most of the high-end SSDs on the market LSI acquired them and over the last year or so we've seen the branding gradually shift from sand force to LSI sand force to more and more towards LSI well now they have been acquired so Avago makes all kinds of crazy stuff so the original articles from an on tech and they're talking about how they you know Apple devices use an LTE duplexer module and power amplifier from Avago these chips don't generally get much attention they're mainly focused on the enterprise side and things like fiber channel transceivers and fiber optics and all kinds of which I guess ties well into the thing that they're probably best known to gamers for which is the optical and laser sensors in gaming mice but I had no idea that they were a big enough deal to acquire LSI crazy how they just like dropped it in cash like up we're just gonna buy you not go into debt or anything just it's kind of impressive when companies are able to do that yeah they're just that much bigger but they're just like nope so it looks for the moment like it's gonna be a non-destructive takeover so the LSI team that remember these guys have a ton of experience with high-end storage so this is gonna tie in potentially really really nicely with someone who specializes in high-end interconnects so things like fiber channel so we could be looking at at merging these technologies in ways that are going to make high speed storage just a jet this could be the next generation of high speed storage I guess is what I'm trying to say if bottlenecks man yeah exactly removing bottlenecks is a huge thing and having these guys working together if the merger goes well although you know I mean you look at how long it took someone like AMD and ATI to figure out their very different corporate cultures and find a way to get a cohesive product that really contains elements from both teams to market that being said with a lot of communication technologies and stuff that we have now it seems to be a lot easier for these companies to do this and we've seen like a long time ago it was a lot more common for destructive takeovers right because of that problem communications problems yeah like well your HQ is here your HQ is there you want your job okay I guess you better relocate yeah I don't really care yeah don't or do whatever so that seems a lot less common now communications a lot easier and there's a lot of more widespread companies and mergers that are being done much less destructive speaking of communications apparently Obama I guess the meetings already taken place actually have you checked out any follow-up on the meeting because I have not all right so Obama did have his meeting with I heard kind of nothing came out of it so I'm not sure you can you can check it out but I don't think so original if anything does it'll be not for a while original article was from the verge and it's Obama to meet with the leaders from Apple Twitter and Yahoo today in fact there are quite a few executives that Obama has committed to meet with so including Apple CEO Twitter CEO Netflix is co-founder and CEO Dropbox Yahoo Salesforce Zynga Sherpa Comcast LinkedIn Facebook Google Microsoft AT&T these are all huge companies and the the Obama administration actually Obama himself has committed to meet with these guys to discuss some of the stuff that's been going on lately with the NSA and some of the well just outright data theft from these companies that's been going on over the last little I mean I can't I can't imagine what he would have to say it says specifically what hasn't been made public yet is exactly how President Obama responded to surveillance concerns so everything that people cared about hasn't been revealed yet so yeah we don't really know yet but I yeah that's kind of brutal and I'm actually I had this in the notes but I'm happy that it happened now because if it happened a few months ago I think almost none of these companies would have really gone off to bat too hard but once they figured out that they were all being infiltrated they all got kind of really pissed off yeah you know I surprising how many people thought that that open letter was fake Microsoft can't remember where the actual thing is Google everyone agrees just trying to I'm trying to find that open letter that they all wrote that was in the paper I think I sent you that right yeah here it is yeah yeah here it is so this is from phone arena calm anyway dear mr. president and members of Congress etc etc etc we understand you have a duty to protect citizens sincerely AOL Apple Facebook Google LinkedIn Microsoft Twitter Yahoo and when I tweeted that out it was amazing how many people thought it was fake because it was just this letter that's like hey can you please like cut the crap and stop doing this sincerely all of us a bunch of companies that aren't exactly known for working together Twitter and Facebook anyone you know Apple Microsoft Yahoo for that matter Google and Apple like there's there's a whole lot of this is the one thing that they seem to all be interesting when that happens when there's a whole big group of people that fight all the time and then there's this giant bad guy that shows up and they're like oh okay let's all group together and fight that thing that's when you see the interesting alliances so yeah I to me it's absolutely baffling that they didn't notice on their own before all of this went public but I guess a lot of its when you're when you're looking at internal pipe traffic though like how much are you really analyzing that compared to external stuff like you see so many different things accessing this data you probably not too worried because it's all internal stuff and you're all encrypted from the outside and you're watching the outside so it kind of makes sense that they might not have noticed it for a long time all right now this is a pretty exciting little topic for the PC gamers out there hopefully there's at least a few of those watching our stream you know what I should just make sure that our YouTube announcement went up because we've been having some problems with that lately with that just not going out to the viewers yes it has but it has like very few thumbs up and like it looks like it might not be fully published yet so that's that's brilliant maybe we'll do a Twitter blitz after this one but the DualShock 4 is fully unlocked for PC almost this was posted by tiger claws 12894 on the forum and it's from the PCSX 2 forum right here where there is a little bit of a breakdown from the guy who is working on it so go ahead I think you have all the details for this one so basically it was working except for the touchpad the LED and vibrate mode and PS PlayStation was essentially Sony I guess sorry it was essentially like yeah it works except for these things sorry someone in the community decided that wasn't good enough and started releasing their own hacked weird version things that incorporates a few different things like tricks it into thinking it's a different controller it emulates it into a 360 controller and like all this weird stuff which is really cool emulating into a 360 controller so that thinks certain things should work and then they just work that's brilliant and yeah so the community is stepping up and making this thing work and it's hilarious because Xbox's doesn't yeah I mean it's it's it's so so you you're gonna need a dongle for an Xbox one controller which is just unbelievable to me I mean you look at the versatility of Sony's implementation with Bluetooth and you can I mean it could be better you know you look at the ps3 controller the fact that you had to have a rooted Android device in order to use that controller on Android but why why didn't you just I mean okay at least it's better than Microsoft where you still need a dongle they had every opportunity over the last eight years to see that Sony's solution was better this time just use Bluetooth use Bluetooth so that at least let us try to hack it please cuz like I don't think anyone's mad about this Sony giving up and just be like yeah it works that much I don't think anyone actually cared no because Sony's not stopping these guys which is the nice part which is the good part the part that's like thumbs up so I mean they could have done better there's no real reason why they couldn't have just had a PC driver so you sit down and you can game at your computer I mean yeah okay it should have just worked people are too up in arms that it didn't because they're allowing people to mess with it and my issue here is that how long ago was this okay how long ago like two or three weeks was this so this is this is the old article from my game spot okay or this is a post on game spot and this I hate this computer okay so then it's redirecting me to here we go Microsoft on PC gaming we lost our way promises a better future so this was about six weeks ago um like okay where where's our where's our controller that just works natively on a computer the same way that it does on an Xbox that should be part of that that should definitely be part of that the other day actually I was at a buddy's house and he loaded up Dark Souls what they pulled off games games for Windows last from like one game that's my point games for Windows live was still on it and I was like oh that's depressing that's not good and like I don't know it seems so well timed and poorly done yeah that sounds about right like they dropped it at a really good time where a lot of people really cared but it's just it's lip service if one partly see that's the problem with Microsoft is there a very fragmented company I mean there's Microsoft hardware there's Microsoft software there's Microsoft consumer there's Microsoft enterprise for all of the different things and it's not necessarily gonna help you personally as Microsoft employee to advance the whole company it's more your own it's your own department so then there's Microsoft game studios then there's Microsoft then there's Xbox and so there's there's all these different things and just because like one dude at Microsoft is like yeah we lost our way on the PC we're sorry DirectX 12 will have more tessellation or whatever that doesn't that doesn't necessarily mean that that all the ducks are actually in a row and everyone is committed to making the PC a better gaming platform at least at Microsoft which isn't to say that valve and Nvidia and AMD and all these other guys who are just sick of Microsoft being completely focused on Xbox and not focused on PC at all aren't just gonna take matters into their own hands and create an OS in an ecosystem that works better than Microsoft's and I personally believe very strongly that the reason the PC still is the dominant platform at least for desktop computers you can make arguments other ways and lots of other spaces I think the reason that they're still dominant is because of gaming not because okay so to be clear I don't think it's because everyone it just plays games on their PCs and that's the only reason they own them so anyone who doesn't play games shouldn't have a PC the reason is because I believe that gamers particularly on the PC side tend to be enthusiasts so when their mom comes to them and is like son I'm buying a Mac they're like and they stop it that doesn't mean that mom wouldn't have been just as happy with a Mac or Linux or anything else for that matter it just means that because the enthusiasts and the tweakers and the hackers that Microsoft has really lost track of how to appease are still tied to that platform because they want to game on it I think if gaming goes away those guys lose that last tie that they ever had to the platform and those recommendations to other people start changing I mean that is what these companies keep forgetting is it's not about how many units of Android smartphone or Microsoft Windows PC or whatever the the hackable platform du jour happens to be it's not how many of those units you can sell to this guy it's about how many people he goes out and influences and explains that the benefit of this is so great and that's why you should jump on board it and that is how a platform gains dominance we've seen it time and time again and then when they start to close down the platform it starts to go away and it happens time and time again so that I don't remember what the topic was anymore but anyway Jays two cents will be joining us did you have anything to say sorry oh there's there's a few things like the point about the like the influencer the enthusiasts that tells people what to buy is incredibly true and we see that constantly in every way shape or form and people just yeah just don't understand it it's kind of disappointing because you see that like something super niche will happen with the product that no one knows about but that product starts selling way less or way more because it even if there's a very small amount of people that know about it even if it's like some some bloody subreddit yeah that cares about it all of a sudden it's like whoa where'd that sales spike come from yeah because these people are influencers and their influence goes beyond what they type on the internet to other people who already know about it they have real lot well some of them have real life some of them have real lives and talk to real people speaking of a really cool feature that I actually wasn't aware of did you know that the HTC one wakes up from a full power off to trigger an alarm so if your battery dies in the night how's it fully powered off then if your battery dies in the night so it's like off and you know how it usually has enough like it has like half a percent and it'll wake up and then it'll be like oh sorry it'll wake up an alarm and then power down trying to trying to trigger an alarm so the alarm goes off so it's that like clock battery in your phone or something because how it must be on in some form no cuz even like even I manually power it down yeah yeah but it there's got to be something something still running something's going on yeah that's actually really cool yeah I don't know if the one max does it yet I was speaking of which I've been I'm switched over to the one max for now man this thing's huge like look at it in relation to my hand it's like redonkula see see my hand slicks hand here you it's like appropriate ridiculous anyway I'm kind of getting used to it already I've only been using it for about four days and anyway it's it's it's it's I don't remember okay right cuz I was talking about that feature where it wakes it wakes up because all right my wife was super mad because my alarm went off or something and I was like it won't happen again I turned that phone I'm not using cuz I'm not using it I turned that I turned it off and it woke itself up at my normal alarm time triggered the alarm and I was like stop it and it went back to turned off again and it was like off like lock button doesn't do anything like what I don't know if it's just that one I have I have to play around with it some more that's actually kind of cool because I don't care if my phone is like if I forgot to plug in my phone I want my damn alarm to go off cuz I don't want to miss things yeah so it's actually really yeah it's awesome I love it I think it's I think it's like crazy awesome alright so why don't we pull Jay onto the show I actually don't have my oh thank you no problem is it plugged into nope nope not plugged into anything but that's okay oh wait wait whoa oh the wrong ones oh okay well I'm just gonna like deck myself out in all of the Christmas cheer today I wish I had a red one too to go along with my green one let's see how many pairs of headphones I can wear all at the same time I don't even hear anything he's not here yet here we go hello Jay hey guys what's going on not a whole lot how are you well I guess we do have a lot going on we're streaming live to thousands of people well hello thousands of people Jay's too sincere thanks for having me all right why don't I go ahead and put on your little guest lower third there and why don't you do a brief introduction you guys have been you guys have been asking for Jay to come on the show for about one bazillion years so for those of you who haven't heard of him Jay go ahead hey guys Jay's too cents here I just do the YouTube thing like everybody else just trying to get my little piece of the corner they're doing all kinds of PC reviews and custom tutorials and water cooling and if it has to do with a PC or tech I'm a geek and it fits right in so that's what I do cool that was very concise and what was your what was your YouTube channel name it's Jay's two cents and that's with a Z not an S and I'm no relation to Jay Z I am not a rapper that's unfortunate you'd be really rich a lot of people seem surprised by that honestly I mean they say are you related to Jay Z no not at all so that one was an accident it's funny because your ethnicity looks the same as Jay Z's based on a video of you I'm looking at right now over in this corner depends entirely on the lighting you know what's funny is we were we were filming NCIX tech tips today and we were doing a thing about Bitcoin mining and I was like oh we should we should put like we should put some stuff all over my face so I look like a miner and it's just like you can't you can't do blackface on this show I'm like no I'm not talking about I'm not talking about that I'm talking about like if I was a miner and he's like he's like oh I see what you mean oh you probably just shouldn't do it anyway you could make it look like coal smears well you could make it look like coal I think they decided that we were just gonna do it in the thumbnail so that they could control how Coley it looks and make sure that it didn't end up looking inappropriate and insensitive insensitive that's the one I'm having a bit of an off day today Jay you're not the only one oh my god after the day I've had this is a welcomed pace for me tell tell us a little bit about yourself what kind of day did you have today because YouTube's not your only gig correct YouTube is a hobby I am in I am an IT engineer by day also Moonlight is an SQA software developer quality assurance tech for a software development company which shall remain unnamed but yeah I do wear a couple of different hats and today is one of those days we had our company Christmas party at noon we're trying to head out the office at about 11 and we had a major power outage at our data center and we had to rush in make sure our cooling backups were good to go because if you've ever been to a data center and cooling goes down it takes about five minutes for everything to overheat to death five minutes oh yeah what the amount of racks and that we have in our data center in Irvine it takes about five minutes from for the temperature in the room to rise about 35 degrees Fahrenheit Wow nice racks yeah that's what she said had to do it sorry so don't be sorry so what do you do to prevent the overheating at this point well the data center that we have is all water-cooled but the problem is I mean the pumps and everything stay running but the HVAC system goes down because it's on the main grid you can't power back up an HVAC system like that so pretty much we have a direct line to Southern California Edison saying please get your trucks here now before we lose millions of dollars of equipment so tell me something because I mean this is this is something I get again not on the same not on the same level as what you guys are doing over there but I have had I have had a fan failure on a water cooling system before just a PC grade water cooling system and what the biggest problem I had there was the pressure that built up within the lines as the water heated up and heated up and began to boil because I don't know if the viewers know this but most processors including graphics cards and some older CPUs will actually go above a hundred degrees before they will begin to throttle so depending on what kind of a Delta you normally maintain between your CPU and your liquid you could actually reach liquid temperatures of near or above a hundred degrees in very very disastrous cases and I actually had this happen once where a fitting a tubing blew off a fitting and sprayed water all over the inside of a PC I don't know if I've ever told you about this no oh it was terrible anyway so I was wondering when the HVAC system sort of to be clear guys HVAC our HVAC system refers to basically massive industrial grade air conditioner that is designed to not necessarily condition air but in this case condition water and keep it cool so what I had happen was I had tubing blow off so what happens if your coolant boils the coolant that we have actually is is treated in such a way that the boiling temperature is much higher than the normal hundred degrees Celsius where water would boil kind of like a car but in this case what we actually had to do because we didn't have an ETA from the power company was we had to power down our servers so we were running around to all of our server consoles trying to get all these servers powered down in the amount of time that our UPS would keep things flowing because even without an HVAC if water is flowing you get a little bit of cooling but if you don't get them shut down in time they you've seen that things will melt themselves and these these servers even though they're all xenon and whatnot they will throttle themselves but the temperature rises so quickly they'll die before they ever throttle now I know that with consumer grade hardware the way that the way that overheating protection often works nowadays like when I had that problem that was a long time ago the way that that overheating protection works now is usually when the CPU reaches a thermal limit this cold the whole system will power down now with a server does it not necessarily work the same way it can but the thing is when you're dealing with thousands of racks in the same room the temperature spikes so fast that it doesn't actually have time to power down before damage occurs genius excellent yeah so that's why you see articles like in like last year where Google I believe was pulling in water from one of the natural ponds that was extremely cold where they were getting cold water without having to actually condition it themselves I don't know if you saw that article earlier in the year but it was pretty fascinating yes that's very cool actually I remember back in back in the days when the only forum I really used to troll with it was extreme systems org I remember seeing an incredibly cool bill blog where what this guy did was he buried I think it must have been a couple hundred feet of copper tubing and then he he actually had an excavator and he excavated a significant portion of his backyard and put it down below frost level right so it rather than go rather than being subject to any kind of heat from the Sun or any kind of cold from the from the frigid air above every season all all seasons it was basically the same temperature and then he had he had a pump a series of pumps that on the one end that was actually running tubing are running water through this snake of tubing buried in his yard and then up to his PC in his house that's pretty yes so that's a very similar type thing did you I did and I think I remember one of the one of the challenges was condensation because of the depth yes one of the challenges was condensation I think one of the other challenges was actually I don't think he was using copper at every stage I think there was right PVC and then he had issues with filtration and like some junk getting into it so he had to have a filter but it was a really cool project I was like wow I want to do that yeah I remember people asked him why are you doing this and his answer was why not indeed and you know so that's that's what I do by day and the whole YouTube thing for me is just kind of a moonlighting gig just because I like it so I do it here is the thread this is on overclocked net so I this might actually be a different one than the one that someone posted this and the one that I was looking at although it might be the same one I don't even remember here let's see how old this is because if it's this is 2010 it could just be a copy over though could be a copy over not sure oh yeah this might this might be the guy anyway very very very cool project maybe it was just PVC maybe he didn't do copper maybe I'm not even remembering it correctly either way very very very cool project all right let's go back to our guest thing here so we haven't actually started any of our actual topics I know we promised a Twitter blitz to you guys earlier we will go back and we will look at those tweets but if you have any questions that you want to blitz to Jay I don't think I ever said thanks for joining us on the show Jay thanks for joining us on the show I'm glad you're here and a prom appreciate it I know I know I know all right so let's move into our first guest topic here and this is the cyanogen phone that has now been approved by Google so here's a Google Plus post I don't Luke why don't you give us your thoughts on this first there's been some interesting stuff cycling around this because kind of everyone thought that they were gonna have to fight the man to be able to get this to actually exist at all and then now Google's just kind of giving them their blessing which is interesting so I'm wondering if some some talks happen behind doors and they decided to be friends with each other but ignoring all that because it's approved and I don't really actually know what happened behind doors the phone is really interesting in itself it's it's have you ever actually used an Oppo phone no I haven't me neither all right then which yeah I want one of these though have you looked into this at all no the camera is specifically interesting if you can see that right there because it can swivel I think it's 207 degrees I should have put that in the dock but I think it's 207 degrees and at every single point in that swivel it can lock oh so with some old laptops especially from Acer they would have webcams in the top of the screen that you could flip over but it was either facing at you lock or flipped over a lock to this one you can kind of point it wherever you want cool this is actually a really smart solution to the whole crappy front-facing camera good because now it's one really good camera just you face it wherever you want to go I guess that gives you more room for optics as well which is really cool so here they're talking about the camera so for world's first rotating camera smartphone it was the first in the world to release a 13 megapixel smartphone now you've got 60 so the cameras constructed from 67 different components featuring a 206 degree rotation that will firmly lock in position at any angle without shaking or moving while you frame the shot which is like pretty impressive although all I really see coming out of this is a lot more selfies a lot more so much much better selfies at least they'll be higher quality I guess but I think there's gonna be more of them which isn't necessarily a good thing I guess it depends on who you are but that is actually pretty cool and it is a really really high-end phone f2.0 lens Wow it's kind of a big deal well that the camera aside I've I've always been a big fan of the cyanogen project I was an early adopter of it back when I used Android that camera is pretty awesome though I imagine all of the front-facing blinded selfies because the LEDs will be in your face but hey well we have to start punishing people for taking selfies at some point here amen I agree so what better way to do that I like the I like the fact that you can lock it in any position though because now you're not if you want to use your phone for some sort of recording you can lay it flat or mount it to something I think it's pretty cool I would like to check this out that's for sure this is another feature that I want to cover which is their o-touch so the idea behind this is that say you're say you're reading a web page or on reddit or something on your phone can we ban companies from calling their features the first letter of their company and then dash something s pin oh touch s voice s voice gmail just way too easy anyways so the idea is that you can scroll through things and use your touchscreen in basic ways by actually using the back of the screen so you don't have to put your fingers in the way all the time and I think that's really interesting because there's a lot of websites that are being mobile optimized that are completely ignoring the old rules that you don't put things that are interesting below the fold now things are very scrollable because of touch screens so being able to easily scroll through someone's website or reddit reddit is very actively looked at it's is nice by you being able to touch the back of the phone because you can use it with one hand for one big thing and if it's a really big phone like yours it's a lot harder like with a smaller phone you can just do everything with one hand but the big really big phone sometimes you're just holding it and you would have to use a second hand yeah I mean totally when things are bigger sometimes you have to use two hands so this has a 5.9 inch screen which I do find a little bit on the big side although what I notice about it immediately is that unlike the one max which has the boom sound speakers on either side of the screen what they have done is they've gone with a much slimmer bezel on the one side so it should actually be overall physically smaller so that's that's good I'm glad to see someone innovating in terms of input rather than doing what Samsung's doing and moving backwards it's like yeah we can't really figure out what else to do with our high-end phone so here's a stylus yeah but don't worry you can like you can draw a little calculator on your screen with it I do like that did you use it it's interesting I could have swore I saw something last year saying that Apple had filed a patent for the rear touch display so this is gonna be another lawsuit on Apple's hands oh god oh potentially actually I mean it never seems to really end with those guys so nope I think smartphones have been kind of stale the last couple of years so I'm really looking forward to somebody to come and shake things up you know what you're one of the you're one of the people that I think I would agree with about this whole thing because my when I first got my iPhone 4 I looked at it and I went well this does everything I could possibly want that without some kind of a huge paradigm shift this does everything I could possibly want to do with a phone the only issue with the iPhone 4 now is that iOS has gotten so heavy that it runs like an absolute dog on the iPhone 4 but when it when I got it I swear I was never dealing with any kind of leggy text input that's for sure so there is something amiss with with the iPhone 4's hardware and software that is making some seriously bad things happen with it but I haven't seen I haven't seen some kind of huge amazing innovation in the last little while I mean what what do you think will absolutely help this gosh you know I don't I've been thinking about that myself especially since in working in IT we're constantly dealing with new devices and I I think this is the first year I've not purchased a new smartphone for the year I normally am an annual upgrade or some sort but I think I'm really looking forward to some of the technology that we looked at last year at CES with the transparent displays I would love to see something like that but again I think technology in the smartphone arena has moved so fast that they kind of outpaced themselves and not to mention all the lawsuit debacles over the last couple of years have really slowed down technology so everyone wanting to be you know the patent holder of this or that has stalemated the entire industry as far as I'm concerned those patent wars have gotten pretty ridiculous I mean you then you look at something like the wearable space where there's so much innovation left and it's so much more usable I mean the smartphone is great but I mean Apple's whole laughable thing where it's like you can't make anything that looks like an iPhone well okay but it's just it's a thing with a screen on one side and not on the oh we could have a smartphone with screens on both sides okay but how do you make a smartphone that isn't a screen on one side buttons around the edge or in the case of the g2 whoo buttons on the back and you know cameras I think I'm really looking I was at Samsung's keynote last CES regarding the their foldable tech their bendable screen I would love to see some of the concepts they showed on that come to fruition you know with the folding tablet or the wallet phone something like that because right now I look at what's being done with flexible displays and curved curved displays in particular as a very evolutionary step I see I see something like the G flex as just because we can not as because this is something that people actually need or actually desire yeah yeah it's definitely cool tech but I don't think it would be quickly adopted you know because I think part of is you're gonna be dealing with soft soft materials on the screen which could potentially scratch really poorly yeah yeah that's actually a very good point all right our next guest talk actually let's do your why don't we do your guest Twitter blitz here so let's see if we have any any excellent questions for you here all right playing Twilight Princess on my PC while watching the stream also the bit rate is good source quality looks golden thank you Darren no draw I agree it looks great this week the mighty noob says just started watching your channel Jay and loving your content hey thanks I appreciate it apparently Blackberry has had the powered off alarm for a long time and Starbucks says that it's one of the things that he or she missed apparently someone has had that since early 2000 with Nokia's from the 90s cool all right I don't see many questions for Jay here so we might have to come back to these ones later and hopefully there's there's a few here blah blah blah blah lots more comments about the bit rate and okay well why don't we just move into our next topic for now guys if you have any questions for Jay please do post them Intel reportedly eyes future 18 core Broadwell chip for zion well yes in fact there their picture here really indicates the kind of investigative journalism about IT hardware that might perhaps go on at certain unnamed sources for this particular article as a as a guy who built servers I am particularly interested in that especially if we can if that means we can have less physical servers and more VMs due to the extra cores I would be extremely happy with that all right talk a little bit about because for gamers in particular well okay particularly before AMD mantle comes into play which will happen I mean well okay dice said December so they still have 11 days but we'll see I wonder about how hard the developers are working on the 24th the 25th the 31st and the 1st so so that's four days out of the next 12 probably are kind of write-offs but anyway so in theory mantles coming soon and that's going to help gamers leverage multiple cores but on the desktop we we have kind of looked at what Intel's been doing lately with reduced power consumption and the capability of adding more cores although they haven't bloody well given us any in the last couple iterations here and the capability of adding more cores and we've kind of gone okay yeah that's interesting but we don't really care whereas in the HPC space or in the server space this is a huge deal for you so talk about what an 18 core chip means to you well when when you build virtual machines you're basically taking resources from the hardware on the server and allocating it towards digital computers so you have one physical computer a server where you create multiple virtual machines all doing separate tasks and they can be different servers entirely doing different things so the stronger the processor and the more memory allocated to it allows you to do a lot more in a smaller physical space but once again when you deal with that type of threading or that many cores in one you know package you're gonna be dealing with a lot of heat as well but as a server guy I would think that exponentially we would have a lot less heat if we had smaller packages that can do more rather than having more packages putting off massive heat into the air so I was looking at that article and thinking of it about it from a gamer perspective I don't think it means a whole lot for gamers obviously I mean we're barely catching up to four core and eight core possibilities or 12 core if you're on x79 but I think just like we were dealing with in the late 2000s you know hardware is still outpacing the threading capabilities of the developers so I don't think gamers are gonna benefit from this whatsoever yep and I mean I think this is just more reinforcement that gamers Intel has no plans to stop with the whole we're just gonna add more cores and make them more power efficient and we are not going to increase clock speeds and we're not going to increase per core performance plan that's not going anywhere so there you go guys Intel is more focused on the bigger picture of where compute performance needs to go in the future and less less focused on individuals playing video games at the same time yeah a lot more video games recently have been GPU bound instead of CPU bound which is why the GPU game is still so exciting and there's still so much war going on but I have to look at that and go well the GPU developers probably know that Intel and AMD for that matter I mean look at AMD they just knocked high-end dedicated CPUs completely off their roadmap I mean they're just not that into it anymore I'm really I'm really concerned with what the the TPU is gonna look like on the overclocked side especially for the 8 and 10 cores because everything I do is overclocked it has to be and I was really disappointed with the way Haswell turned out regarding the temperatures so I'm wondering what this is gonna do as they add more physical heat in there as well well you know what I think we're gonna get to the point very very soon actually one of the things that I saw in Intel's rumored upcoming I think it was an 8 core extreme edition but their entire upcoming LGA 20 whatever it is anyway the replacement for LGA 2011 has well Haswell e the the rumored the rumored upcoming refresh was that these chips are going from 130 watt TDPs to 140 watt TDPs which means that if you start to get higher than about 140 watts I mean look at something like the I can't even remember what the stupid things called the 9590 yeah AMD 9590 TDP that chip basically required liquid cooling that had a 220 watt TDP so as we start to get above sort of a hundred and fifty a hundred and eighty watts we're gonna be requiring liquid cooling even on the desktop and that is going to be a huge huge problem for overclockers who are not installing triple radiators into their machines yep I had an 8350 that I overclocked to 5.14 at its highest and the temperature output on that was just massive I mean I was running a triple and a double rad 45 millimeter thickness and was still hitting the edge of that thermal limit to where I was uncomfortable with it and had to back it off but yeah I mean I get the power efficiency I get that they want to have you know two-in-one capability with their new chips but enthusiasts like me I you know I'm willing to cool it if necessary but I want to make sure that we're not going to be dealing with these low overhead capabilities like we were seeing with Haswell I get a lot of flack from people from staying on Ivy Bridge but I mean I've got a chip that's a golden chip and I won't move away from it until something really lures me I'm on Sandy Bridge and have no problems with it at all I mean to put this in perspective I'm on Sandy Bridge E so I'm on LG 2011 and I was literally holding an Ivy Bridge E chip but it was in its box so I had my CPU out of my socket because I was doing a motherboard swap and I just had to open the box on the Ivy Bridge E chip in order to move to that one and I was like too much effort yeah because there is no benefit even so Sandy to Ivy, Ivy to Haswell we haven't really for overclockers we haven't really seen a benefit and I mean how much of this direction do you think is and the move away from sort of appeasing the enthusiast and you know looking for the solutions providers and how you can work with those guys do you think has to do with Apple I mean look at the Mac Pro how much of Intel's intention of providing something like you know a 12 core 10 core workstation chip as opposed to just a server oriented chip how much of that has to do with Intel's move towards will know workstations in the future are gonna be this they're gonna be this garbage can shaped thing and they're gonna have one CPU in them and we're not gonna do that whole dual CPU thing anymore so guys you better find a way to put more cores on an individual CPU I mean I think Mac Pro with Broadwell is going to be an incredibly compelling little can right and potentially with something like the Mac mini where you're getting much a lot of power and much smaller form factor I I do think Intel is more concerned with form factor than like you said those dual chip solutions which are server systems yeah definitely as we see power draw go down and mobile Intel chips become much more yeah speaking of Broadwell Intel saying that we could be looking at or well the okay rumored rumored the rumor is that we could be looking at Broadwell chips as low as 4.5 watts so we could be looking at everywhere from 18 core server chips down to four and a half watt tablet chips on the same basic architecture which is pretty exciting it's really awesome for certain form factor like Jay was just saying it just has nothing to do with gamers and overclockers it just really has me wondering where the future goes from there I mean we've seen this trend so many times in tech where things get smaller and smaller and now just like the fablets we're back to going bigger and bigger so when is the cycle gonna repeat wearables right there yeah yeah it's already happening and we'll make those smaller and smaller and smaller until we want to turn them into fashion statements and then they get bigger and bigger mind you I think that's happening already because one of the wearable bro no not the wearable bra yeah oh when those get bigger that's definitely a good thing well come on I had to make the joke oh no no the thing that I was actually gonna talk about was the Neptune pine so this is the the smartwatch Kickstarter actually 26 hours to go and I'm not necessarily recommending to back this thing guys because I think it's stupid but I I backed it so that I could get one so that I could do a video of it but this thing looks absolutely ridiculous I mean look at the thing it's supposed to be a smartwatch and the guys using it like like it's it's not that much smaller than iPhone 4 I was actually marveling the other day that my iPhone 4 screen area is literally one-third of the one max like if you take the thing and you put it if you put it portrait next to the landscape one max it almost lines up screen for screen and it's about three of them so I mean these trends are it's like they're happening at like hyper speed now smaller faster we haven't even released anything yet but we're gonna make it smaller and then bigger and then smaller and then smaller again Jay just fell down the stairs. Eventually we'll come up with a fallout style huge arm thing. Yeah like arm band things with curve displays so you can have multiple conversation windows open with different people and well like I'll keep you on my biceps yeah can enjoy that there we go perfect I would love to spend a day and just in one of these think tanks at these companies to see where they really are trying to take technology because I honestly feel like some of these companies are truly lost where they they have no idea what they're gonna bring us now I think Samsung's always like that yeah I would agree. More plastic. It's like well we'll just release like every phone and then the ones that sell well we'll tweak those and then release them again and then we'll release them as a camera and then we'll release them as a watch and then we'll release them as like underpants if we can get Psy to wear the underpants then the smart underwear smart underwear tells you when you got to go it tells you when you already went tells you when you should dance does it have a wake up alarm on it vibrating alarm Psy underwear you ate too much start dancing oh boy but then again you know this this whole unknown is kind of what makes it exciting at the same time too but every now and then there are those companies that come out with something that they hype up like crazy you just go what what what I'm sorry what were you thinking like I think I think Galaxy gear is just a complete disaster I think Samsung did it so they could be it so they could have something on the market I mean I think okay this is sort of the cynic in me but I think they're just releasing it with as many features as possible so that if there's any kind of a patent dispute later they can be like well no we already had it like we brought it to market we did this so that they can just sit and they can have this stupid product on the market that makes no sense and then they can wait for Apple to release the iWatch and then they can make like as few tweaks as possible to gear so that it's not a copy but it's like an iteration of gear but so that they can actually just clone iWatch so all the marketing is actually just so the judge can find the evidence that it exists yeah that that's what I think which which takes us to the bigger problem at least here in the United States is just how many patent trolls there are yeah and companies wouldn't have to do this if they weren't concerned about the patent trolls if the laws actually protected the innovators and not the copywriters on the other hand the flip side of that is if you have a great idea what can you do if someone like an Apple or someone like a Samsung flat-out just decides to steal it because I think yeah I yeah I it's so frustrating to me because it's the problem is then you patent the idea and you never it never comes to fruition you have this great idea sitting on the shelf because the guy who patented it couldn't make it happen so it is a double-edged sword and yeah it's really staying same but because none of these companies are willing to collaborate with each other where they all are bitter enemies no one works together either yeah we need more giant alliances like the DVD Alliance okay but the problem with giant alliances is that then you end up with Wally and then it's just like because as far as I can tell if Costco and Amazon merged they would basically just call themselves the by and large and they would be that corporation they could totally do it they could totally do it because there would be this a lot imagine Amazon showrooms inside of Costco's oh I just peed myself I know imagine you could get free shipping from Amazon if you just shipped it to a Costco and picked it up okay imagine if the entire top of a Costco warehouse was like Amazon drone area like oh my so you could order things to the Costco because Costco is so good at like bulk logistics and and pricing and all of these things and customer service and like Amazon is so good at these things if they just kind of got together and we're like yeah we're just gonna crush everything Costco's on I'll tell you what's frustrating especially with Amazon is I live I can see out my front yard about two miles away there's a brand new 1.5 million square foot Costco shipping warehouse distribution center on the West Coast so you said Costco did you mean Amazon I'm sorry I mean Amazon yeah okay and I can see it in fact I have a family member who works there yeah I can't go pick anything up and I still have to pay full price shipping even though it literally never it goes from a van to my door they use like a third-party carrier that's local and they still charge me for full price for shipping and you can tell when it's local because I'll have it'll be four o'clock in the afternoon and it's giving me another nine hours to order it to have it by tomorrow so it's obvious it's right down the street but they don't give me the option to pick it up so that's incredibly frustrating and I would love to see drones in my area because I live in a high wind area and I can imagine the amount of injuries that'll come of that because of out of control drones I think for a long way away from the drone thing I'm I'm in the this was a marketing stunt can't yeah it's a long way away and I think I think what's more likely to happen in the more near term is pickup depots this was actually one of the things that I really wanted to see happen at NCIX when I worked there I wanted rather than focusing on larger more beautiful stores what I wanted was I don't know if anyone ever shopped at like the old NCIX on Broadway in Vancouver if anyone on the stream ever shopped there that place was horrible the front of the storefront was like covered in like ugly tech posters and there was like a counter and then there was like the place where I would always hang out because I was always like going there with my computer to like troubleshoot things and I'd like borrow tester parts from the army department so I could like try things and then I'd like buy stuff based on what worked and anyway but they had like this old horrible dusty PC in an acrylic case on the right and then they had like cases and printers all over the front of the store and then in the back they just had storage and that is what I would have loved to see for an e-tailer tons of them tons of little okay there's a little like tech area where you can get some service done and people can come in and like troubleshoot things and they can swap out parts and then buy things a little bit of limited inventory of like like my my concept for this was two brands per category period no matter what okay so video cards we stock EVGA we stock XFX that's it memory we stock Corsair we stock Kingston that's it or whatever or whatever but the point is two brands per category and then you can special order anything so you'd have you'd have like like basically two trucks that just cross the country you know every week and go like this and then just do pickups and drop-offs at each location as needed so you could have anything shipped for free anywhere if you're willing to wait a maximum of six days or five business days or whatever it is I think that is the future more than something like drones that's what I liked about NCX so much that's the only only real reason why I pretty much only buy things from NCX is because I don't have to be shipping I get it shipped to an NCX location and then just go pick it up screw paying shipping we know Amazon has that locker system but I don't trust it because when I looked at the local lockers in my area one of them I kid you not was 7-eleven it was wow yeah yeah I didn't understand it so I there was no way I was even gonna try it but 7-eleven was a locker pickup I had I didn't even know that was possible yeah I had no idea it's almost like if you're willing to allow us to ship stuff to your location and you'll stick it in the back we'll pay you but that's what it seemed like that's sketchy in my being not super down for that someone says private little PC stores have tried that idea the price markup is too high how have private how can little PC stores try that idea the whole idea is that you have a national chain massive scale that's that's not how the idea works NCX does that yeah NCX does that I just wanted to see more locations and smaller and just everywhere that's why I said I liked doing it because it was an option anyway all right so let's move into our last big topic here which is bit torrents sink wow this is amazing personal cloud you know what Jay why don't I let you kick us off on this one because you must have a lot to say about this you know it it's scary to me just because a lot of the immediate thoughts that go along with the word bit torrent to have my data traveling and funneling through them when the whole bit torrent thing all about in the beginning was piracy mm-hmm so I don't know how much I would trust it I like the fact that it the space is only limited by your own personal space and the bandwidth is only limited by your own personal bandwidth right and and I thought that that that concept is great but I don't know if the person trying to market this is the right person I mean the whole bit torrent thing just scares me that torrents been trying to change their name for a long time though and they're changing what they're developing as well so they're doing sink and they're doing chat systems and they're kind of moving away from their right which idea which kind of goes to show though the the reputation they've already created for themselves when we when my first reaction is bit torrent oh I'm concerned about security that how many other people have that same reaction to it what part in bit torrent are you worried about security with the fact that they have piracy ties with being utilized for piracy or people actually being able to break in I think when you have a community that in the past has been pretty much all having to do with piracy I think immediately the thought that goes along with that is people trying to break in because that's just what they do that's what the way I feel about it form it's because most people that are using torrenting applications aren't the people cracking things there are people acquiring the things that were cracked by someone else so I think it's a different type I'm not saying you're wrong I just I think it's a new type of piracy it's not it's not people hacking lines it's people hacking software so they can release it for free my personal opinion though is I don't I don't store anything on the cloud and I know this isn't cloud storage but they are still we're using cloud funneling almost like a point-to-point to your own personal network yeah but I don't I don't like my information traveling through these unsecured networks that I have no idea where they are so I personally have my own VPNs and I have my own access to my networks but then again I'm on a geek level that the average consumer isn't gonna be on right so if someone's the average consumer and still worried about that kind of stuff they can take other precautions too it's not perfect nothing will be perfect but like something you can do is encrypt your stuff before you send it like encrypt your stuff before you put it in a sync folder because then it's at least slightly more secure so yeah I'm just I'm just wondering how many average people would know to do that or even know how to do that even with simple tutorials or tools yeah but then how many average people are gonna be transferring data across these sync lines that is like super yeah but I kind of feel like this is the future of storage though I mean I think we're really looking at so much being on the you know the interweb and intranets and these these different cloud funnels and these point-to-point services I think I think we are inevitably gonna have security holes and issues in there I mean target alone this week right 40 million credit cards lost yeah yeah and they are and they have massive massive third-party companies constantly trying to break their system to find these holes yet it's not happened but because they're a giant target as well my mom isn't a target oh no but like if when you look at something like how when Adobe got cracked they got crashed because they're this giant actual honey pot with real honey in it of things that you can get if you break into it if you're it's it's not as common for someone like my mom to get attacked it's more common for that so personally like it's it's obviously what risk do you want to take in this situation it's not isn't a perfect solution but I didn't get a chance to I didn't get a chance to research it fully in depth but my question is where's the hub and can somebody somehow monitor that hub that with malicious intent I don't think it's based off of a hub because I think based on their technology it's going through your own lines so I don't think it's ever interfacing with bit torrent servers it's going through your own lines I'll have to definitely research that more because I'm curious as to how they can establish that connection without seeing the data I don't think there's a ton of information yeah there's not a ton yet it's just basically they've got the informational page up so guys I'll just show this to you right here so your data belongs to you is their whole thing if everything they say here is true so access your files everywhere create sync folders open on any computer phone or tablet access docs photos etc etc etc sync never stores your files on servers so they stay safe from data breaches and prying eyes send and sync without speed limits and free if all of this ends up being true then we have one revolutionary concept on our hands if any of it isn't then it might be just another me too but the one thing that I can say about bit torrent to I guess you know yeah the word has become synonymous with piracy but that's just all it is it's a word bit torrent has legitimate uses and we actually used it not that long ago for something that I looked at and I went this would be absolutely impossible or extremely costly without bit torrent and that was when we did our capture our gameplay capture an image quality comparison between a bunch of different consoles and I was looking at it going how the hell are we going to send out these multiple gigabyte files to all the hundreds of people that are gonna hit them all at once and the answer was bit torrent it was incredibly easy everyone was getting great download speeds and having this peer-to-peer network really validated the the protocol to me it's being able to see that an individual like myself could just go okay let's like make something happen let's get a file out there that is that is a legitimate file that has nothing to do with any kind of piracy just so people can see it in compare image quality is great and if they can take that if they can take that distributed sort of approach and that that decentralized approach and apply it to things like the security of my personal files or my personal chats I think that's fantastic because I the public cloud makes me extremely uncomfortable I don't store anything I don't store anything very personal there because just the fact that it's never actually deleted is is very very disconcerting to me so I do use a personal cloud I probably don't have one that says secure is what you're doing but I would make the argument that it's certainly a hell of a lot better than a public cloud and if this is at least that much better than public cloud even if it's not as good as the very best thing you could build on your own with a whole lot of networking know-how then I'll settle for that yeah I agree with you 100% on that I it's definitely sounds like one of the you know legit service that's been abused because of the fact that being a peer-to-peer allows people to abuse that sort of system but if this gives people like you said the freedom to be able to securely transfer files from their own networks I mean let's say next month there's something very important you guys left back to the studio on that machine and you need get right in there through BitTorrent pull it to yourself I can see the benefits of that and this is something I'll definitely research and maybe even try out and and give some information on myself but yeah I've been I've been off of the consumer level point-to-point and peer-to-peers for so long now I'm not as in touch as I'd like to be yeah and I mean I one other like huge application for this is in spite of these things getting larger the storage on them seems to keep not getting larger my data plan in the last five years has gone from I think I used to have oh it was something stupid like 500 megs and I have five games now yeah so in another five years if I'm able to get a 10x scale you get 10x scaling on that again and I can have 50 gigs a month having something in a little personal BitTorrent cloud where I can have all of my files at my home replicated to my office and then accessible anywhere where I have you know LTE 5 or whatever it is by that point that'll be fantastic that is a future that I can that I can get into so the the workings of what he was just explaining is you can have things automatically syncing everything so they're just always mirroring each other or you can have it where you can selectively download things or just remotely view them so you don't have to use all the storage on your phone and you can do that by user groups or you can do that by individual folders or whatever else you want it looks amazing it just has to be awesome and the p2p nature of it is a nice little security adder yeah and I do like you said about the you know the data plans and and the amount of bandwidth it's unfortunate that so many carriers and and because this face that if we're talking mobile we are gonna be at the mercy of whatever our carriers plan is yep that everyone's gone away from unlimited you know the speed got faster everyone's bandwidth is grown yet they found a way to market to us by giving us limited data caps which I don't know how it is in Canada but I know here we I was on an unlimited plan for nine years before I got stuck on a capped plan simply because I wanted a newer phone yep so I could see a system like that if you don't set it up just right just wrecking your cell bill yeah but then like we said you can selectively download things you can have it so that it can see everything but doesn't sync any of it and then remotely access it or just not sync it at all alright so let's go to Jay's Twitter blitz before we before we move on to our other topics Jay can I create virtual machines and run them at the same time for example one new bun to one windows and display them on two different monitors absolutely in fact you can display them on any remote desktop as well in fact we don't even have monitors hooked up to these machines they're just a box that then you remote into different IPs and their virtual machines on that system so you could have as many virtual machines as you want as long as you have the hardware to allocate to it awesome Amazon oh okay someone says Amazon should open up small pickup shops that only serves as a pickup spot works fine for big companies here in Denmark okay yep yeah that is what we were talking about agreed someone says working at an Amazon warehouse it's pretty disappointing that I can't pick up my own order and walk out with it it's right there so it's not just you Jay and it may end up coming from a different state Evan says Jay do you think that AMD will try to pick up the enthusiasts that Intel has left behind on the desktop overclocking side I think they already have just based on the radion move a radion move with getting in bed with the developers especially battlefield 4 everyone now is seems they're going pro AMD which just six months ago if you had AMD he were kind of ridiculed yep I run a home server do you or J know a good app that lets me manage the files on it from the WAN do you how do you do it for yours do you do okay math math edges or I'm sorry I don't know how to pronounce that if you specifically run Windows home server then you'll do that through a browser but if you're talking about a different kind of home server then we'd have to know what kind it is I think yeah not enough info sorry man post on the forum that that 140 characters people will help you all the acronyms Tobin's contributes as soon as Samsung HTC are all just throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks smartphone saturation equals desperation I would make the argument that HTC hasn't done that as much the one the one was the one and that they did it for a long time and they're starting I mean now there's a one and the one max which is like one but it's like bigger didn't we see something last week about an Asus phone the pad phone I think they only have a couple phones though and they're not available here so we don't really get much exposure to them hmm I thought yeah my my wife actually linked me something talking about an Asus phone with their own OS but it still runs on Google so I don't know I didn't really look at it she's not watching M strand says Jay do you like my cloud from WD or as a dedicated to Bay nas preferred with some kind of custom software setup if the dollars are similar well the NAS is always preferred because you have full control over it but if you want simplicity then going with something like that my cloud would be just fine for the for the normal consumer I mean you gotta remember guys I'm I'm dealing with terabytes of traffic a day right someone says and Linus I heard this AMD does not do desktop CPUs anymore thing was related to a fake roadmap I could be wrong no you are wrong AMD is still doing desktop CPUs they're not doing am3 desktop CPUs everything will be an APU I what I meant was dedicated CPUs so those are gonna be gone and it will be all AP use with graphics cores on board all right one more question here we go yeah it's not that great of a question sorry there's okay you can do you can you can post on the forum about that Rob Brian says Jay just saw your video on the CM stacker do you think a potentially large case is really that viable of an option seems seem ah with the way that same things seem to be moving towards mini ITX and smaller form factors well let me be clear the stacker in itself the 935 is not that big of a case it's just a mid-tower it just becomes gigantic as you start stacking 915s on the bottom or the top yeah it's kind of ridiculous at that point yeah I mean I've got the top on the bottom and I stuck it next to the 900 D and it was massive but I did find that it lacked in a little bit on depth depending on the applications that you're doing if you're trying to do custom 480s but you know I don't I think there's always gonna be those guys who love their ginormous case like my 900 D and there's gonna be those who love you know their node or some sort of a shuttle PC I I think it's I think both are perfectly well suited towards those who desire that size I don't think I don't see the paradigm shift towards small PCs although that may change now with the steam box and the steam OS but then I don't necessarily think the big ones will disappear I just think there will be a lot more of smaller ones right all right well I think that's pretty much it for our guest segment Jay you were awesome thank you so much for coming on the show if you can just give the viewers out there a quick reminder about how they can find you on the interwebs if they enjoyed your segment here which I'm sure that they did hopefully they'll let us know that they did yeah Linus Luke thanks for having me on here it was a blast you guys can find me on J's two cents on YouTube it's right there on the screen you can also find me on Facebook and Twitter at the same handle I'm always doing what I can to try and help you guys be smarter buyers and builders of your own PC I am a huge advocate of building your own PC so I'll do everything I can to talk you out of buying a prefab but with that that's that's who I am and toss me a follow and ask me your questions all right cool thanks man see you later all right thanks all right let's move into our sponsor so Squarespace is our sponsor for the show today big thanks to Squarespace for making the WAN show possible and of course big thanks to Squarespace for making Linus Media 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okay hold on hold on have you seen any of her art before you before you make that face have you seen any of her art there will be a classified section sir that you will be able to sell your own products I no no no no no no no no or she can Linus media group would buy them from they're good they're good what like why why are our people gonna be interested in abstract art why would they not abstract artists for everyone it's abstract okay do you guys think please answer no I should allow my aunt's artwork to be for sale in the Linus tech tip store she can put it for sale under her own classified account well the store is not just gonna be full of like classifieds though it's it'll it'll have a lot of our stuff as well people are complaining about my headphones well I needed them to hear Jay I needed both of them I needed surround sound that's how it works add more speakers add more speakers just generate more ears as you put like if only I had a galaxy gear I could add another speaker here oh my goodness people are saying no leaks because clearly the nose no no answer no abstract art now we don't know what the answer is all right well I think we can agree that they all probably want the leak so why don't we head over to Linus tech tips comm and see if we have anything interesting to show to you guys here I'm not logged in but I guess I probably could at the moment right log into what log into the form yes you're on the other line right I'm on the yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no IP shows no no because I'm just gonna go into the other thing sure okay so what is my password I don't even know okay so here's all the like extra stuff that appears when you're an admin don't pay any attention to those yeah don't look at the man behind the curtain I love how you're showing the URL so if one's just gonna go anyways there we go full screen browsing all right so this will potentially at some point in the future be the store where we'll sell things like review samples or I don't know we could sell almost anything here we have a partnership with a with a with a retailer who's I wonder who local that I used to work for they're good guys I love those guys can't say that enough so we have a partnership with a local retailer where the shipping out will actually be done by someone who knows a thing or two about shipping and packing and all that kind of stuff not us but the actual transactions will be handled through this we're planning to use PayPal as the payment portal so I was gonna buy that now someone probably you put a stock limit on it I did okay someone could actually buy the 3970 X for 699 99 if they really wanted to although I don't think it's that fantastic of a deal this was just we were testing it so if I click on this I think just out of pure curiosity if someone bought it we kind of have to fulfill that unless we refunded them so if someone bought this right now would would we be fulfilling that yeah yeah yeah we have we have we have a few of them actually I'm just making sure so there's like some specs I copy pasted some specs in nice so if you were to add to cart now that might have more proper specs on it then now hold on a second the one problem the problem would be shipping because right now there's no shipping methods that work so the way that shipping is gonna work is we're either gonna get something integrated or we are going to have to just have people manually use like Canada Post's website to calculate how much the shipping is gonna cost us and then we'll just have to send it out from there so yeah that's that's that's the thing and I think payments actually work so they do so I wouldn't so guys if you mess around when there was a widget on there yeah and to buy it it's gonna work now if you buy this it will work it will transfer $700 to us and we will ship you a CPU so if you don't want a four-mention CPU please don't buy it don't buy the widget because you're not getting the money back if it ships so yeah all right hopefully people get the hat and it's all good I think that's pretty much it though so guys the main thing we can keep doing leaks if we want to waste time we can keep doing leaks I well why don't we do another leak later there's this one we'll just tease the next leak yeah oh no no we'll leak that one after okay so let's move on to our next topic here guys which is that Dell is releasing a console I put this in the dock and I think Luke Luke's comment was something along the lines of how is this even news line because basically it's a small Alienware desktop I think this underlines a bit of a fundamental issue here with the whole idea of PCs as consoles whether it's Steam boxes or Windows Media Center media PCs or whatever else it's just a PC it is literally just a computer I love when you watch the video because like yeah it's pretty much everything's upgradable including the graphics and the RAM and the storage and I'm like of course it's a computer shut up I hate all this Steam box crap it's literally like congratulations you released a computer that looks like a console I don't care I just oh I'm curious did we peek when he was handy clapping I wonder I'm just curious I don't know which chat should probably let me know but features and design available with Windows 8 oh my god get the Windows 8.1 update for increased productivity with a free update from the Windows Store mind-blowing visuals and sound you mean just like we've had on PCs forever virtual design for virtually any space whatever virtual design means expansive experience with Wi-Fi I love that's a big part of movie too they're like you're always connected with 802 11 and I was like yeah not new we have AC like we personally have AC now on our phones I need like a beep button so that I can bleep myself oh my god we should get one of those we could do we could totally do it we could just we have to do it oh my god that was so epic okay yeah that needs to happen anyway that's not news Dell not news Dell that was why we added its news speaking of news this is news I am so stoked for this Pebbles official app store coming in early 2014 because there are apps for the Pebble which is amazing and I love it and I use it every day except when I forget it because I'm a bit of an airhead sometimes I love my Pebble and having an app store that's built into Android and iOS Pebble apps is going to be amazing because the app store really did revolutionize the way that people shop for software it really did what is an app application it's not new it's not different it's just an application you just shop for it in an application store that's all so the store was really the shift here and having something that makes it easy to browse and shop for and try out different Pebble applications is going to be awesome and I am super stoked and Pebble is amazing there's no rumors of like a Pebble 2 or anything but I got a wonder like what they have I've got to do something yeah you've got to have something going on which isn't to say that that Pebble 1 is is bad in any way I'm extremely happy with it it's just things move things move things change but there's gonna be lots of different stuff whether it's so the the app the categories for apps at the beginning are gonna be daily remotes games notifications tools you tools and utilities sports and fitness and watch faces so some of these are a little bit different from what we're used to seeing but of course it's a smartwatch and it's a completely like singular piece of hardware that's gonna have its own unique advantages and disadvantages and the original article is from TechCrunch and I'm extremely excited about that oh yeah do you want to talk about Uncarrier 4 so the original articles from VGR.com and wow that is the scariest face he's always like that I love it I love it it's awesome alright so their CEO has hinted that the company is about to make another big splash in the wireless industry another one this is what like the third one this year this will be the fourth fourth this year all right carry on so essentially they with their uncarrier thing it was all really attractive but a lot of people couldn't move to T-Mobile because they still had to do early termination fees which was a big big deal oh whoops sorry I was distracted I was watching twitch chat no worries yeah there's a really big deal but like now how do I say this they're they're basically giving everyone up to $350 to be like yeah join our side so if you have early termination fees they're just like now we'll pay those and they're giving extra consideration to families so if you have a family of like four or five people they'll go over and above their previous $350 potential to be like no we're gonna bow at your whole family that's amazing T-Mobile's like yeah Uncarrier all this stuff is epic oh you couldn't switch to us yet no no that's cool man I got you just come switch if I was in the States I'd probably be all over T-Mobile like the past is delicious just come to our side you can just keep eating it all day yeah we'll even pay you to come eat it that's kind of amazing I mean honestly just with the whole roaming thing alone would be enough that I could look at something like oh okay a few hundred dollars for you know oh oh crap you know I you know I have to pay out my contract yeah that's not the end of the world if I can travel to the US and not have to deal with roaming fees which are the worst thing ever on the face of the of the earth so there you go guys it's all rumors right now the whole $350 buyout of your early contract termination fee but it fits into the direction that they've been moving that's just the same kind of crazy thing that they might be willing to do so we're extremely excited Star Citizen hanger module has an update but more importantly the dogfighter module has been delayed who didn't see this one coming yeah I mean based on looking at the hanger module were they anywhere near ready for dogfighting and like there's there's some cool stuff though they with this update you know how I was just complaining I think yesterday that they took away my that they took away my I'll tell you later um they took away my what was I trying to say they took away my cutlass yeah and I was uber not stoked with this update cut this is in so I'm super stoked to go look at it soon yeah because but you can just look at it you can't actually fly looking good in it and like look around at the controls and stuff all right so here we go we can I think we might as well just blow through our quickfire topics then and then move on to more leaks shall we sure all right so this was a post on the forum that I thought was awesome some mail posts that this guy ordered 108 r9 290s this is on Bitcoin talk org and so to be clear guys graphics cards are not really that optimal for Bitcoin mining they're more for litecoin mining these days but check that out apparently this is like just some dude and his dad's helping him finance it but an r9 290 actually has gone up in price from $400 to $500 since launch actually we oh oh this is an exciting leak so we're gonna have our r9 290 versus GTX 780 both of them water-cooled showdown coming very soon which is much more relevant now than it was when we originally planned it because they're the same price now yeah because everyone's buying up AMD cards so let's let's sort of average it out and let's assume he paid 450 each so 450 times 108 means he spent nearly $500,000 on the graphics cards alone never mind the PCs required to power to run them and the power required to power them so that is bazonkers and it just goes to show you how big into the whole cryptocurrency thing many people are getting in spite of the fluctuations in value I mean Bitcoin went from $1,200 to what five something and I think the next day and then and then it halfed again I think yesterday did it know I heard rumor that I got halfed again there's a new coin called Dogecoin yeah but that's a joke hilarious we're not talking about that it's a okay we'll talk about how it's a joke okay so Dogecoin or dog coin or whatever you want to call it is like it's a joke cryptocurrency that's only reason for existence is to make fun of cryptocurrency okay so no bitcoins at around 600 to 750 right now so yeah Dogecoin please don't invest in doge I've heard of people making money on it though because like people are of course you're gonna make people are jumping into it as a joke and then okay don't I hope it becomes like the thing that stays around just because that would be amazing like flying spaghetti monster ism it's like it only exists to make fun of all the other ones and yet we keep allowing it to continue to because the internet loves satire like nothing else it really does it does yeah that's about it we don't really have anything else to say about Dogecoin yeah that can be said minecraft coming to PlayStation 3 on two days ago so this was obviously a post from earlier in the week it's really funny some of the posts in this thread were kind of brutal people being like why do they keep favoring Sony over Microsoft well I don't know because like you can only release on so many platforms at a time you just got to kind of like pick one or why do they keep favoring Microsoft over Sony or I don't know what people were saying but it's like I don't know it was released for one console before and now it's two and you know why didn't they release for the ps4 well because there's like you know what a million of them out there like how many are there I actually don't know I haven't been keeping track relatively there's not as many as you relative to PlayStation 3 and it's not like minecraft needs the extra horses frankly although I mean there's mods and stuff on the PC version which is obviously vastly superior that that can make it more demanding that's that's not a thing on the on the on the other one not so much all right so Oppo is teasing the find 7 which is a handset with a 2k display so to be clear guys that okay I think the the article here on phone arena made a bit of a mistake because 2k is not fine 7 to kids that's their graphic that's why oh okay well they're they're being confusing because to be clear 2k is 2048 by 1080 that's 2k that's the standard two and a half K is 2560 by 1440 well also known as 1440p the problem is that is that the terminologies are changing many different ones we've gone from vertical resolution to horizontal resolution and the other issue is that there are multiples of some of these resolutions so for example 4k could be 4160 by whatever it is or 38 something or 38 40 by 2160 or what like whatever they are there's actually multiple ones for different aspect ratios so at any rate I think what we're talking about here is a 5.7 inch phone with a resolution of 2560 by 1440 now one thing I did notice about this particular 5.9 inch phone at 1080p is that it doesn't look as sharp as the one but that could be the contrast ratio and the quality of the screen as opposed to the actual pixel density because this does not have as good of a screen as the HTC one it's actually quite warm not not like warm to the touch but yeah it's more yellow whereas the one is is more maybe a little bit on the cool side so it's expected to have a 4,000 milliamp hour battery man that makes a big difference this one's like 3,000 something compared to 23 something I think on the one it's the difference between like on a heavy day making it through the day and on a heavy day like being tethered to a charger and like today I've used it I've made a bunch of calls I've been on the internet all day and I'm at like 60% battery it's like awesome yeah anyway um I think that's pretty much all we have to say about that other than that to me this really feels quite unnecessary this might be the world's greatest mouse pad this was posted online is tech tips calm by wooden market yeah yeah a $1 mouse pad that has his or her avatar and Linus tech tips on it would markers kind of a big deal yep greatest mouse pad ever also this was cool this happened before but this is just I thought it was like bazookas so doctors in China successfully saved this guy's hand see there's a hand attached to a leg I'm sorry for showing you this picture I probably should have done like a warning or something but they had it they kept it alive for a month allowing it to actually like sit and heal it was from it was it was severed by a drilling machine so the guy oh this is crazy the guy put the hand in a plastic bag without a blood supply while he searched for a hospital that might be willing to save it so about seven hours after the hospital can you imagine being like being this guy and being like yep I'm a trek around with my severed hand in a bag of ice trying to find someone who's willing to try to reattach it for me anyway he found a doctor that was willing to take a crack at it and 35 days later they removed the hand from the leg reattached it to the arm in a nine-hour operation and they will need several more operations and extensive rehabilitation but doctors are optimistic the limb should function fully in about six months I think I think it's like nerves grow oh man what is it I think nerves grow one inch every month or something holes after reattaching a limb like you need times not only for your body to get used to having that again but the nerves to like go back out into your hand I can't remember like that's probably off by a little bit so no scientific data there but yeah six thousand Great Britain pounds yeah I think that's all there is to really say isn't there probably still scratch your disc so there you go the price tag for this gaming machine is about ten thousand US dollars the original article this is posted by I Mike the King oh I Mike the King you did not post an original link to an article I am I for shame unless this is it okay well it's from the Huffington post co.uk so I mean there are other ways to get gold plated consoles for example what's that what's that place called I have it in here gold genie calm old genie calm has all kinds of crazy gold plated stuff they don't have Xbox one yet but they have a 360 that's gold plated for around $1,200 Canadian so that way you might want to wait for gold genie to deliver your ludicrous gaming console if you're gonna be crazy one thing that we did say that we would call it today is that we have the world's greatest live stream socks so there's mine with space invaders you're huge you really are very large very large person yeah it's like robot socks so these were a Christmas present from someone on the forum oh we left their names downstairs I think we left their names downstairs in category which is really embarrassing right about now I tweeted it so Instagram line is tag frosty we're terrible people it's like we're trying to be thankful to someone and actually we are just horrible we still have the post-it note downstairs because yep because we didn't want to forget and then we forgot and then we forgot we left it down there we do that a lot yep we're just generally not very nice people I think we're kind of nice we're just terribly forgetful yeah you could make that argument which gets interpreted as being not nice that's true and our people correct is being inconsiderate being not nice well maybe it's not being inconsiderate we considered it by leaving it down there so that we wouldn't forget it all right frosty coyote I can't even really read this Vodzen frost and frosty coyote I can't I can't read it unfortunately all right leaks of new forum features I'm going to sign in because I didn't want to do bad things before I always want to do bad things actually I can't even remember my username it's a good thing I'm not like streaming that I had to type my username in like three times all right what else do we want to show oh right full screen browsing but oh ah this yes so it is kind of broken and still under construction it still has many things that has to be done to it but Linus has decided that we need a proper home page yes we do which to be clear is not us becoming not a community forum in fact the home page will be yet another way to increase our community interaction and our communities interaction with itself and each other it's realistically a portal for the forum all of these topics that you see I like best frog USA which is obviously a sample topic will link to a part of the forum if you scroll down there's a trending topics part still working on the logic for that don't work that might not work we're figuring it out but that is all direct links to the forum and then if you go down even more there's a featured videos thing and then there's and then there's build logs build logs will be a direct feed from the build log section some people were wondering why the heck there's that sticky weird not actually a build log build log from Mr. Wizard there as you can see it's got a few few views and a few posts that's what that is all about because we've been messing around with that so yeah this is what's been happening lately so yeah we are we are we are we are definitely investing we are spending some money on developing the website and making it a better place for you guys to go and hang out and do things and get the latest news and interact with each other and hopefully that ends up being something that's useful to y'all yeah I guess that's all there is to really say about it yeah the store and that actually oh well we already leaked this before but we should probably just show it to them all right wait that's not the right one hey where is that one oh yeah oh media there we go oh yeah so there's also another tab here the media tab which you can watch this show on so at some point in the future and you can also see a countdown to when the next broadcast is obviously we're broadcasting now so yeah oh wow I made it I made it big zoom on zoom wow no I can't control it so then there will be like some content here for the channel description and news items so you can see there are definitely some placeholders there's gonna be spots for oh no I don't want to turn on sticky keys sticky keys on your keyboard never a good thing um so over here there's like the sponsors for the show and then down here there's past shows so we like I said we are definitely we are definitely investing some cash monies in making our website more desirable for you guys to check out and enjoy and you know I guess just making it better yeah we want to be better but we may need your help we seriously I know we've been talking about this for like a month but we will be doing a funding drive for some of the new gear that we really need and these website upgrades that right now I'm paying for we're trying to find a way to make the new one like cool really cool yeah badges thing was pretty cool yeah a new type of cool we want different cool stuff yeah there you go guys all right well I think that's pretty much it for the show today before people freak out I have build logs they will be in the after party they couldn't be in this show because of issues really that's all you're gonna say that's I haven't I actually don't have an explanation I do do you yeah but I don't know right I figured you had one but I don't okay well so guys you can choose you can do it into the after party apparently I had wanted to stream at 4k today theoretically it's possible but we weren't able to make that happen I was having some trouble with the with the oh I should show you guys I should show you guys the new setup speaking of of new gear that is going to be the new setup or content better okay cool I wanted to make sure that he wasn't doing like other things why don't you have it yeah you can just grab the Odyssey so why can't we do it these buttholes released their product before it like had anywhere any like okay in their defense their website did have like fine print about how doesn't do any of the things that it's supposed to do yet so this my friends is the Odyssey 7q and by some time in February we will have support for codecs and resolutions that will blow your mind so we'll be able to record in ProRes at 4k all day with our current setup so with the battery and the two 512 gig SSD cartridges that pop into the top of this bad boy see them we will be able to shoot pretty much everything we do in 4k which doesn't necessarily mean that much good because you don't watch the videos in 4k but what it does mean is more detail when we zoom in on things so for something like fast as possible when we punch in on closer on my face it'll still be crystal clear what it also means is when we're doing macro footage of products we can punch in up to four times digital zoom and it'll still look like full HD 1080p so the videos are gonna look real cool what's this thing videos are gonna look really good so what I was hoping to do because the way that the SDI out interface works on our camera is that it only outputs 1080p unless you have a special recorder which is either this one or Sony's $4,000 one which is ridiculous plus you need another $4,000 piece so you need a $4,000 interface piece and a $4,000 recorder piece to record 4k with Sony solutions so this one right now only supports 2k raw but 4k raw is coming in January and then 4k ProRes is coming later but anyway it has SDI in so SDI is kind of like professional HDMI if I had to kind of explain it's totally not the same thing at all but it's just a digital video signal that uses a locking BNG connector that is capable of carrying similar resolutions to interfaces like HDMI or DisplayPort so it's a completely different standard some people in the chat were saying that YouTube can't support 4k and other people are already correcting them I'm just them here so that everyone yes it's fine they support it now yes yes it can anyway so it has SDI in so that comes from the camera and then it has SDI out which can go to our black magic extreme 4k capture card so I thought that I could pass it through but I couldn't get it to be detected it could have just been used or I didn't have long to play around with it but I thought maybe we could stream at 4k today but it looks like maybe that's yet another feature that's coming later although being able to shoot in raw we have an upcoming project that we shot for funk entirely in 2k raw which is basically just 1080p like it's not higher resolution but the color and the image quality should be the best we've ever managed to produce so we're do we get to release this one well eventually yes I got it why do you get the other one just never gonna go yeah yeah yeah no the the one where he's in an afro and stuff will exist in the future but the the one we just filmed for the keyboard will be coming first yeah yeah so there's gonna be kind of a weird reference in there no no no it'll make sense we read the script to make it make sense in the new release order okay cool that's awesome and I'm definitely gonna meet with funk at CES this year and see if we can see if we can find a way to produce more of them because they really are kind of awesome although you guys have only seen one of them so far there's three there's three but I mean what's the point of releasing a marketing video for a product that doesn't exist some people brought up that it's kind of funny that Sony took 4k really literally just made everything 4k what oh yeah this thing allows you to film in 4k cost 4k you need another thing that cost 4k and then you can film in 4k in their defense the camera itself costs 8k yeah a precursor of things to come no it only has a 4k sensor yeah yeah should we do maybe like one Twitter blitz I was gonna say before we actually sign off we should hit a Twitter blitz yeah asking for that let's do it let's do it yeah you can always go so much deeper than Austin says you should just open a store called Linus tech computing and try and compete with NCIX I don't want to I love NCIX they're my bros we'll just work with them is it true that the I three forty three oh I love this show almost performs the same as the I five forty six seventy wouldn't perform that differently unless you're overclocked yeah cuz that's not a non-case so yeah it'd be pretty similar I don't know if there's a forty six seventy I thought it was the forty five five seventy non-k and it was very similar anyway I check out patreon.com actually they reached out to us it offers a way for your subscribers to become regular financial contributors we're well aware of subbable actually subbable oh we were really close to being one of the first like dozen channels on subbable the problem is that we're not us based and because Amazon payments to take payments requires you to have a US address and US bank account we weren't able to but I really love what blog brothers are doing with subbable.com I haven't looked into patreon.com as much yet but it looks very similar we're aware of it but through the Linus tech tips form and through the store we will actually have regular contribution options where instead of you guys giving someone else money to give to us and then have them take a cut you can just give it straight to us so that'll be a thing more leaks all the leaks finally some demos and news on mantle oh okay I should probably check that out later yeah it was it was a 46 minute video I think so I didn't scrub through it for today but I'll show it to you would you prefer Mac or Windows for a college student I can't choose which you know what post online is tech tips calm and you will get a bunch of people who tell you to choose with that said if you legitimately want to be a student and not waste your time playing games buying a Mac would might be a good idea because they're limited functionality or you could makes them better for certain things you could build a hack and toss or there's certain actually programs that you can get that'll limit you from going to different websites and let me from opening different programs any thoughts on the LG G2 I'll let you feel that since we have one and we're working on it well he's working on a review while I work on my one max review so far I actually really like it there's a few things that I'm on the fence about and there's a few things that are really like the screen is beautiful for one it's absolutely beautiful the buttons on the back as some of you can probably I know it's not oh sorry I know it's not in focus when I do this oh we have a new lens now too epic yeah the Tamron because we spent all the money because it's the end of the year there see the up and down arrows here up arrow down arrow silver button in the middle the up arrow down arrow our volume the silver button in the middle is your like power and sleep option and then so it's all in the back which is really weird but then it has functionality where if you double tap the screen every single time I want to show someone it doesn't work yeah you there we go if I double tap the screen it always works when I do it when I'm not showing people it turns the screen on and if you double tap the screen in a blank area on the desktop it will turn the screen off so you can still kind of ignore the button and then use the phone I'm kind of warming up to it at the beginning I was like wow this is stupid I hate this and then within about a day I liked that the volume buttons were back there I'm still a little bit on the fence about the power button other than that it's I haven't played around with it enough I kind of changed a whole bunch of things that I'm not using LG's interface too much yeah but I don't necessarily know that LG's interface is that bad I'm just not used to it all I'm really used to is raw Android and touch wiz and it's quite different right so I ignored a few things but I'm slowly allowing options to come back in from LG side and a few them are really interesting I'm just not super used to it so right now I like it a lot it's a good form factor size too I think but I do wish it wasn't such crappy plastic on the back so I might get a case for it it's very very plastic all right next up we've got someone says Nvidia G-Sync do you think yes at some point G-Sync technology will come to Rift yes it needs it John Carmack covered that pretty darn well during the G-Sync event I asked AT&T if there were any special circumstances where the cancellation fee was waived she said death excellent Wow all right so let's go ahead and someone's a special circumstance people are complaining about twitch lagging we did up our bitrate so you might just have to turn down your usual quality of the stream some people have been saying that it might be twitch as well that I saw one person was complaining with a 30 megabit per second down connection that he was like crazy another person with 30 megabit per second down connection was on source said it was perfect no lag and looked amazing speaking of which Mark asks how's the fiber experience yeah that's awesome pretty great we speed tested it yesterday and from 50 down 10 up advertised we were getting 63 down 18 up all right so let's go ahead and I think that is pretty much it so guys thank you very much for checking out the live stream the land show whatever this thing's called I think we changed it at some point and peace out well we got to do the do the what thanks guys bye