 Welcome to the WAN show! We have a great show for you guys today, which is good because we're- you guys have been waiting So very long for it to start. Not the YouTube audience. Um, we've got a special guest with us here He can't get his webcam working, but quite frankly that was the least of the issues we had today So Kyle from Bitwit. Say hi Kyle Kyle... Yeah Our powers combined! Yeah Yeah Late Squared. Oh my god, we should do co-op shows called Late Squared. Apparently they can't hear you. What? What? Wait, you're not coming through on the Discord. Your mic is muted on Discord Unmute yourself on Discord. Unmute yourself on Discord, Kyle! Done! There we go. Done! Oh man, okay, okay. I'm breathing. I'm breathing now. Okay. So yes, Kyle. Kyle is here Hi. I'm right here. Trust me. He's here. We have topics. Topic number one is that Kyle is the first person, the first creator for the Floatplane platform. Oh my goodness! Of all time Except for Linus Tech Tips. Yeah, that doesn't really count though. Oh, yeah, yeah, so he's- I can play at nightshamalala. He's number two. In other news, Nvidia teases another Titan X, the Collector's Edition. We needed this. In other news, Next Gen AMD Epic could be equipped with an Epic 64-course. We also needed that. And in other news, Razer announced a phone for gamers. We needed that too. I am going to roll the intro. What we really needed is WoW Classic servers officially on Blizzard. I'm rolling the intro. Yes! I knew he was going to try and get it. I'm so excited! Okay, I'm rolling the intro. Okay. It's weird because I can't say Battle.net anymore because that's not what it is. It's Blizzard App. It's so stupid. Oh, that's terrible. The launcher thing though. I'm not playing any Blizzard games right now, but are people actually following suit and calling it that or are people just like, no fuck it, I'm still calling it Battle.net? I think- They're probably like, no screw it. What your profanity? I'm just going to call it Battle.net. I think mostly people are saying Battle.net, but I don't really know. No intro music by the way. Oh, I don't even care. That's a luxury at this point. Yeah, I don't know how that would even happen because I legit did not change that at all. Did you publish the YouTube video? No, I haven't. Oh yeah, yeah, I published the YouTube video. We're good, we're good, we're good. We're live. Okay, so apparently it's now BlizzardBattle.net. They changed it again. Wow, that's terrible and they should feel terrible. Blizzard, the only entity to change their name more often than I do. That's saying a lot. I'm no longer the worst. I wouldn't say you're no longer the worst, man. Congratulations. Okay, so I know you said you have to go at 5. The time is now 5.46. I actually got to take my intermission bio break before the stream started. No, no, it's totally fine. I don't have anywhere to be at a specific time. I'm just trying to limit it to a half hour so I can get all the shit done. Got it. Well, so much for that. So do you want to talk about some other stuff? Because I'm sure you'd love to talk Classic WoW, Nvidia Titan, Collectors Edition. Actually, there's a lot of really great stuff today. So do you want to talk some topics with us first or do you want to jump into Floatplane? What do you want to do? It's up to you. We've wasted enough of your time. Yeah, it's totally your guys's call. I mean, I guess we can start with the Floatplane stuff. Okay. That's news. Okay, cool. Let's do it. Yeah. So Kyle is the first person to join Floatplane and he is having the pre-alpha experience. Pre-alpha experience. That is for sure. How's it going so far there? It totally is pre-alpha, man. I feel like jumping in as the first. It's almost like I'm the first woman that any man has ever seen. They're like, oh my God, what is that? We've never seen one of these before. I'm just getting royal treatment. It's super cool. And everyone's incredibly nice. When I first went in there and I was interacting with people and saying, oh thanks. I was replying to everyone individually. And some guy was kindly like, hey, glad you're here, but by the way, you can use the multi-quote. Multi-quote, yeah. It's probably preferred. And so I was like, yeah, sure. And then I actually tried it out. I was like, yeah, what do you think of my first multi-quote? How did I do? And he's like, well, you only quoted me, so it's hard to say. I feel like my grandpa on Facebook right now. But it's been great. Your community is awesome. Everyone's been super kind and welcoming so far. It's legit. That's really cool. That's great. Sweet. Okay. So basically right now, the way that it works, I'm just going to fire up the store here. So, okay. Our plan was actually not to bring on other creators. No. For Luke. So it was just me? You created Floatplane just for Bitwit? No, no, definitely not. I'm getting touched. Luke just hasn't slept a lot in the last week? Week. In the last year? To be fair, no one on the Floatplane team really has. So thanks. Because the plan for Floatplane was to bring other creators on sometime after Linus Media Group Properties had been live on the new site for some time. Yeah. Oh yeah. So like a while from now. Yeah. So like potentially other creators were still four to six months out in terms of a realistic timeline. And it was like, okay, let's do it. I was kind of the, you know, if I was Floatplane's child, I was definitely the mistake child. Yeah, you were the premature. The first one being. The premature mistake. Yeah. So basically. And I think you can partially blame YouTube for that, right? Well, yeah. All the paid channels as of two days ago. And as far as I know, I'm like one of the only, if not the only tech YouTuber that actually had a paid channel on YouTube's platform. So I was really the only one to seemingly get affected by it. And that's when you guys were like, hey, like, speaking of which, we've got an alternative that's way better. Well, let's not get ahead of ourselves. Well, yeah, we haven't seen the actual official site yet. We're working on it. But we're working on an alternative. So how long were you running BitWit Ultra as a paid channel through YouTube before they just like canned it? I want to say it's been about a year. Which lines up? I feel like YouTube. Yeah, I feel like YouTube. Yeah, it definitely lines up with like how YouTube works because they like to like work you up and be like, hey, look at all these new features and things we added. And then like it's congratulations. It's your one year anniversary. We're shutting it down. So I guess like it just kind of happened out of nowhere. But yeah, it's been it's been going for about a year now. I launched BitWit Ultra, which was basically early access at free content both on YouTube and Patreon simultaneously because there was a huge, a huge group of people who weren't able to view paid channels on YouTube based on the country. Apparently not all countries are supported there. So it was a huge, huge just sort of ordeal. I was thinking, oh, you know, it's not bad uploading all my content to a second channel. That's that's not too much work. And then I find out that I have to upload it to a third channel now because Patreon doesn't actually have a native uploader. So I actually had to upload. I had to create a third YouTube channel, upload all my early access content there, have it unlisted and then link it to Patreon. It was just like so OK for the viewers out there for the viewers out there that are sitting there going, well, gee, why why are you an idiot? Why didn't you just upload the video to your BitWit channel, unlisted a week early and then give that to the Patreon people and then just set it public? And hold on. No, no, there's a legitimate reason for this. Whether Kyle himself is actually aware of it or not, I'm not sure. But there's a real reason for this. And we've observed that algorithmically, YouTube doesn't entirely forget and I'm using finger quotes for forget because YouTube is not a sentient being. Although, yes, so far it is a machine that is learning. That was the worst. YouTube doesn't. Sorry. Nick was doing the stairs behind us. He was walking down the stairs behind the show and he's like he's like still in like 20 percent of the frame. So YouTube doesn't entirely forget the upload date when it does its machine learning nonsense about, you know, sending out your video to people. So what's weird is like you'll upload something a week early, let's say, and you'll set it public and the public like the date you see for the video upload externally is the date you made it public. But the date you see internally in your CMS is the date you uploaded it. YouTube still knows. And what we've observed is that leaving something sitting on the channel for some time actually causes it to kind of rot. Yeah. And not only just that, but if you upload something unlisted with the same name thumbnail and actual video content and then release another one, that second one will also get tanked. So that's exactly why a lot of people wondering like a lot of my ultra subscribers who are still on YouTube. They're like, pal, why are you uploading the same video but with a different title and thumbnail? Yeah, because I was noticing as I was getting, you know, getting situated with with this new model and stuff is that like my video, my view, my view can't just started to tank with all these videos that were getting re uploaded, you know, essentially on a different channel, but still using the same metadata and things like that. And then I noticed that there was sort of an uptick once I started switching the thumbnails and then I was like, oh my God, this becomes even more work now. But it was just that it is what it is. You know, it was just kind of that's how I do it. To be clear to the viewers out there, you know, YouTubers as a whole are not like complaining about the hard work that we do to, you know, come up with a different title for the video the second time we upload it or whatever. It's just one of those things where the honestly where it really runs into a lot of work for us is when there's all these little different moving parts that we have to get synchronized and then something's wrong and you have to like bail on a family dinner and go figure out what's going on and which one you forgot. And it's just having a bunch of different moving parts when you go to publish a video is just kind of a pain in the butt. And it can also be more difficult to people realize to actually come up with two good thumbnails and two good titles for the same video. It's hard enough to find one really effective thumbnail title, let alone two where like it's actually really good and eye catching and grabby but also doesn't piss off your audience for being clickbait. It's a you gotta you gotta find that fine line and finding two things on the fine line can boy is that ever a balancing act. Yeah. Oh yeah. I'm trying to attract you know, single unique. One of my favorite things is that this whole paid channels going down thing is on the exact to the day one year anniversary of vessel going down. Did you know? Yeah, November 1st. I tweeted about it and everything. November 1st was when vessel went down and November 1st was when YouTube paid channels went down. Interesting. So on the anniversary of vessel going down, paid channels went down and Kyle joined Floatplane. Huh, and it's also I mean because Floatplane started almost to the day when vessel went down because those two those two events were somewhat related let's say. Yeah. That's also the anniversary of a Floatplane development actually starting not quite to the day but like a few days earlier. It's gray. It's gray. Well, because there's also different stages because like the very beginning we're like we put videos on forum you download. Yeah. Now there's like streaming can I tease things a little bit later. Click Can we talk about it a little bit. It's so janky right I know but can we just can we just show some of the sure let's let's just do it. Okay, so first, first I'm going to show the way that it actually works so Kyle and I talked about this last night one of the things that Floatplane strives to do is and the other guy that don't know if his name is able to be public are going to slap me. Yeah, let's do it. We'll figure this out we'll figure this out so so so Kyle and I were talking last night one of the things that Floatplane really wants to do is work with the creators on what's going to work best for the platform. And since Kyle joined one of the biggest pieces of feedback we've gotten from viewers has been like yo, right now it's $3 for Linus Media Group and it's $3 for Bitwit, it would be great if we could combine those and do like a combo purchase and so I had a call with Kyle. We talked it through last night, I talked to Luke today. And basically, the conclusion that we came to is that if we were to offer a discount. We are either going to be like it what it's going to turn into is it's going to turn into trying to build a video platform, as opposed to trying to build a tool for individual creators to use. And that wasn't really the point of the platform in the first place. So we crunched some numbers and we figured out okay, well what if the Floatplane platform itself could just make some pie in the sky assumptions about bandwidth usage being significantly lower for one person subscribed to 10 creators versus 10 people subscribe to one creator, and we could just kind of absorb that out of there. And what we ended up with was a discount level that would frankly look kind of insulting. Yeah, and what we also ended up with was a fundamental change to the model that we didn't really like. So for us, we want to make sure that we're operating with a safe amount of margin to keep the platform sustainable, because we don't want to go down on November 1, 2018. Yeah, really. And the other thing is that if we have extra, we have no problem giving it back. But for us, it's a creator first platform and we'd love to do things like, and Kyle, this is probably the first time you're hearing about this. But one of the things that I'd like to do is take all of the Floatplane margin that's coming in from your first couple of months here, and then dump that into some promoted posts on Facebook, and stuff like that to see if we can drive in more subscribers. So that's the kind of thing that we'd rather do versus just, you know, discount a bundle of three creators by like a dollar. So we want to make sure that any money that's coming in is going to supporting the creators on the platform. So I think we've pretty much made a final decision there. We're not going to offer bundles because it would really either hamper the choice of creators in terms of the types of bundles that they want to offer consumers, or it would hamper our ability to properly develop and support the creators and the platform. So there you go. There's that. Now, let's jump into some stuff that nobody has really seen before. Oh, geez. Okay. Okay, actually one one more thing. This won't be the only time that I pimp this but it is in our best interest now for the first time ever to drive subscriptions to another creator, which is weird. This is like a this is like a weird awkward position for me. So I'm posting some links right now. Tell me awkward if you want it to be right now you actually access Bitwit through the LTT forum. So I'm going to show you guys how that looks. Oh, I hope I still have not gotten used to anytime I like log in like log it log into Linus tech tips and like go to the store I see flow plane, and I just see like my logo like, okay, they're getting D DOS right now. What's happening. This doesn't make any sense. No, yeah, no, it's not. It's not. It's not an error. That is a bit with logo online as tech tips calm super bizarre. So once you're subscribed what happens is you'll see this float plane section at the top of the forum, and then you'll be able to go to Bitwit ultra, and you will find. Okay, so right now, which, which ones are early access right now. Videos. Yeah. So, let's see, I think there's the announcement wall. Actually, right now there are no early access videos as far as like a week early. There's just one that can you tell me what's coming. Yes, I can actually the H 700 I from NZXT, the new case. Oh cool. Okay, 200 friggin dollars. That's that's going to be going up very soon. And additionally, there's what's the other one. There's there's other stuff there's there's more good stuff coming soon. That's fine. That's a good enough sales pitch. Don't worry about it. Yeah, yeah, it's totally great. Plus it'll look way better than it does on you. Yeah. Yeah, dog. Yeah. And the secret to that is what just like higher bitrate, because a lot of people in the forum were were saying that the 720 on your form or on float plane really is looking better and crispier than 1080 P on YouTube. Yeah, so it's a bitrate thing. It's more nuanced than that. There's like how you transcode it to be able to get more quality and a lower amount of bitrate and all this kind of jazz but yeah there's some there's some special sauce going on. It doesn't really get. Yeah, I don't even have to use my nice camera and use my phone. It's like, like all my good stuff. It's actually kind of like what I've seen a pretty common comparison for and this is not from me is that it's one step up, kind of, so 720 on ours looks sort of like 1080 on YouTube, 1080 on ours looks sort of like 4k on YouTube. Yeah, we haven't launched. We have. Okay, we are getting way ahead of ourselves here. Okay, the last the last time I'm going to get ahead of ourselves today is to show you guys what the site will not look like. Oh, effectively, because it's going to be pretty different from this right. Um, sort of. Oh, okay, so it's not that I'm going to be that different. Oh, okay. Okay, cool. And then I thought I was looking at an old version. No, because the blue top bar is gone. Okay, if you click on an individual channel like if you click on tech quickie. You can see how the top bar being gone affects it more. There you go. Ah, yes. Okay, okay, cool. Okay, so Kyle, you may actually be see no you've seen this because you can log into it so right now registration is closed you can't log into the site. Yeah, stop it, but we are showing for the first time. What float plane may or may not end up looking like yeah there's definitely going to be changes. We're obviously not going to have a giant razor logo in our. Yeah, no, that's just a random placeholder image. But there will be channel banners like this. Videos are going to be basically the star of the show. There is going to be differences though there will be layout differences and this is the videos tab so this actually might look pretty exactly how it does now but there's probably going to be a home tab that looks different. Right now it's full of placeholder garbage like we make videos and stuff cool a you should probably check out Linus cat tips who put that there. I think I think that was Linus for so okay brilliant. So here's what playlists may or may not end up looking like everything is very different. Yeah, there's a different idea for those. How close to the comment section is this going to be, hey, here's a comment post. So there you go guys there's a comment. Wow, in real time it says how many seconds ago it was and dislike and okay no no no no no that's probably not going to continue to do things. Hold on. Real time comment counters no probably not that would bury us so. Wow. Wow. So here's some you know other videos from this particular creator so these aren't hooked into the back end so we can't play video right now but that's that's not a huge deal. Are we planning to have the video stay playable at the top as we scroll through the comments. Yeah, so it's going to stay fixed, and you'll keep scrolling and this pretty much being a scroll. Yeah. Yeah. So like major things we need to work on right now is being able to do payment stuff. Yeah. Account creation is doing pretty okay we're working on connected accounts, so that you guys can log in with your forum accounts that you already have for a bit with ultra and LMG float plane, and we'll have access to the things that you've already paid for on the new sites you don't need to do anything, and then we'll just incentivize changing overpayment platforms because honestly the one we're on right now is terrible, super terrible, and you should be on the new one but we're going to like, try to have some incentives so that you want to be on the new one too. And there's yeah there's there's there's definitely more stuff to do on the site, but that's sort of how it will look. No like crazy major changes outside of that. Oh, you're not streaming this okay I was like alright we're showing that okay. I mean we can we can show we can show how alpha it is Hey Kyle do you think we should show them the alphaness of the CMS. Sorry my vocabulary is not. Alpha beta. Alpha beta. Okay, we're going to do it. Yes, yes the answer is yes a thousand times yes. We're going to do it. Okay, everyone. Oh, should I show the settings page to it. Sure. Yeah. Okay, so this is the setting none of the other tabs work. Yeah, unavailable subscriptions unavailable notifications, well, privacy, well this is super private. Oh yeah, it is. Yeah, tons of security literally all the security through obscurity. Yeah. This is what like you're pretty hilarious is pretty hilarious when you. Yeah. Right so here's where you would like. Here's where you put in the description, totally non functional but it will eventually. And then over here it's like, yes, this is the bug. Yeah, this is. So this is a bug. This is a video that I was trying to upload like yesterday. And now it's stuck here now it's just stuck, and I can't, you can't actually do it with the schedule change thing isn't isn't supposed to work right now. Yeah, I know. Don't worry about it man. Edit on one of these things. Okay, we got an edit button for videos that are uploaded. That was exciting. I don't know if you can actually edit them. There's no save button. Oh, well, there's no. You can edit them but you can't save any of your changes. I did leave the changes on changing the thumbnail, so, you know, some things are there. There's a save button. So, look, look, look, I'm not I'm not giving you it's only been up for like a day. I'm not giving you. The point of this. Look, there's been some really good development that has happened. Okay. So there is actually so most of the work over the last year has been back end work there's been a little infrastructure there's been a lot of infrastructure work that's happened because guys like we are all about that back end. So check this out. This should be a much more impressive demo. This is Kyle's GTX 1070 TI video. I can be a well today's video is going to be very happy together because I'm sure on time what else is new. I know. So Paul, are you in advance for that? But I still think the data that you're going to be seeing today is going to excite that how that's going to go down, dude. I just want to check with you. Yeah. Okay. Negatory. Okay. That's good. That's good. By the way, I love your profile picture. It is literally the best screenshot of me on the internet. I think Brandon actually tweeted me. He's like, this is by far the best video clip that you will ever produce in your life. The stars anymore. Why you just need to get like multiple versions of like alcohol things and have all of them hit you in the eye at the same time. We did a contest for us some hardware recently. One of my personal favorites actually on my store right now is a is like sort of like a cartoon or cartoonized or animated version of of that screenshot. And it says beware of. Oh, that's pretty good. That's not bad. Huh. I wouldn't buy one. But if you sent it to me for free, I might consider wearing it. How about that? Yeah, you should. But you should wear it because I feel self-conscious wearing a shirt with my face on. Oh, man. So anyway, there you guys go. I'm going to go ahead and I'll link the store one more time. Here I'll link specifically the join Bitwit Ultra one. Go check it out. So you're doing one week early access. And I think you had also promised streaming, even though Luke and I were pretty clear that streaming doesn't work yet. But that's the last thing that I think Luke wants to update you on live. What? You guys have been doing some testing. Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. Well, we've we've done we've done some testing. Yeah, it's been going OK. There's still a lot of work that needs to be done. We're going to be working on it tonight. My little after party stream is going to be streamed to Twitch and our own infrastructure, which is crazy. And we're going to see how that goes and do some stress testing. AJ was doing testing from like uploading to a server in Quebec. Yeah. And then having that go over to the EU and then watching that stream off of an EU edge server. Yeah, it was like actually doing pretty well. We need to get multi resolution working. We need to get a live chat. We need connected accounts working so that people can use their accounts to actually talk in the live chat. There's a bunch of work that still needs to be done. But yeah, it's coming along. Cool. Sounds promising. All right. Do you guys want to do some actual tech news? I mean, this was tech and it was news. Tech news show. All right. So this was originally posted by Max settings on the forum. And the original article is this YouTube video from Nvidia. Everyone has to be quiet for a second here because I think the audience actually has sound off my laptop this week. So one moment here. Dun dun dun. It was red and green. Yeah. So it's probably RGB. Oh, yeah. No, no, it's not. Nvidia is not releasing a red graphics card. So they released a teaser this morning for the new Titan X collector's edition. No mention of specs. It does look like a new cooler design with more lighting with a green light clearly eliminating the vapor chamber and heat sink fin array. Lighting may be customizable because in a couple frames, there's a second glowing red graphics card. And it also seems like the fan could stick out from the frame with its own acrylic element. The scuttlebutt is that they could announce it at CES 2018 considering it has a scheduled keynote at the show. I actually doubt they would tease it two months ahead of time. It must be coming sooner than that. Yeah, I don't know. Kyle, does the world need another Titan? No, maybe someone's going to argue for it. I don't think we need one. So what we have the Titan X, the Titan X Pascal, the Titan XP and the Titan X collector's edition. Like, I think it's stupid, but I also don't care. Like, if someone wants to buy it. Sure, go ahead. I don't know. Wait, is it any is it going to perform any different? No one knows. OK, it might it might just be like an updated shroud. I mean, it is possible to be an RGB. It's possible that this is Volta based. Wait, it's possible. It says Titan X, not Titan XP, though. Yeah, but like I think it doesn't have the P. Yeah. Oh, yeah, you're right. 13 second video. Looks like the lighting could be customizable. Yeah, there's we don't really know anything about it. It is it is possible that this could be Volta based. I mean, Nvidia has had obviously working Volta hardware for months now. And just because AMD hasn't given them any compelling reason to release a better product within the price segments where they compete with them. Here's the real question. Is the lighting RGB? It looks like it might theoretically. But but I don't see how that's the real question. I'm trying to talk to you. That might matter a lot. See, the thing is, I don't know if people care about architecture anymore. As long as you've got lighting. There's there's two fans for one hundred dollars that are selling. What? Really? Yeah. Thank you. What? Two fan package. What is that? The light loops are one hundred dollars for two fans. Are they really? I actually didn't know that to one hundred. Are you serious? Of course, you get the lighter node pro or whatever. The leg, no pro, which, OK, makes you do pretty effects and stuff. But it's still two fans for one hundred dollars. I bought it like last week and did a video on it on float plane. You bought it. It's a good video. It's on float plane. Yeah, he did. Does Corsair not like you? No, they do. It was I wasn't planning to do any coverage on it and then impromptu. I was like, I need a video idea. I'm not planned out like fire. So I was like, I don't want to wait for Corsair to ship it and stuff. So I'll just buy it and pick it up the same day or whatever. And did you get some sticker shock there? Some what? Did you I mean, did you did you know it was going to be one hundred dollars before you were like, oh, cool. I did. I did. And I thought that's what made it an interesting video because it was two fans for one hundred dollars. Like, check them out. And what's the deal? It is genuinely really good video. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to say why I did this, but I've seen it like six times or seven times. I don't think I've watched it once. You know, I can probably quote your video. I spent a Benjamin. Wow. See, see, I confirmed. I got you. I mean, I don't know if you guys like saw the it's kind of old now, but like the tempered glass RGB video is like a stupid sketch that I did a while back. I actually did see that one. Yeah. It's like it's funny because it's like one of those like it's funny because true, but also kind of sad because it's true. Like I have I have played up the the RGB enthusiasm and all that. Like I've had a lot of fun with it and I've played both sides of the character. I've played the the one who tries to build the anti RGB computer by literally painting an entire computer, including the components black. I remember that one killing the motherboard in the process. Not a popular video, not a fine moment for the channel. All the way to building the ultimate RGB PC, including me wearing RGB shoes for the bill. Like we've we've gone to both ends of the spectrum here and I have to I have to confess though that I like RGB, like in the sense that like I think it's cute and I think it's cool. Yeah. But I have a Corsair K7D RGB like their first RGB keyboard on my desk at home. And the thing about that particular RGB keyboard is that it defaults back to its red except for white on WASD and the arrows color scheme every time you like unplug it or like don't install the driver or whatever. So there were a couple of times where I like bothered to set it up. Yeah. And I got tired of it. And for well over a year, it's been read with white WASD because I just can't be arsed. Well, I feel like I feel like with keyboards, it's a little different because there's literally like over a hundred little things that you can configure and customize. Right. It's like it's like sensory overload. But I feel like if it's just more straightforward, it's like, OK, here's a headset or a motherboard. You're not going to have that many variations of what you can really do with it. And most people, like you said, like most people are going to set it and forget it. Right. Like, OK, I like this profile. I'm going to keep it. Just set it this way. And it's that way for like the next 18 months or whatever. So I don't know. But at the same time, like I've gotten spoiled by RGB. Like, I think I realized I really don't know why everyone thinks it's me because I had the first generation of the K7D RGB as well. Yeah. And I was like, this is stupid. I'm not going to pay X amount for just having this lighting and it can change colors and stuff. This is dumb. And then like the more updated, like the next generation came out and I was like, wow, like the lighting so much brighter and it looks so much better. I'm like, why doesn't my stupid first generation board have like bright, vibrant RGB lighting? And I was like, oh, my God, oh, my God, I like RGB lighting. So you went from not caring to caring so much that you want premium RGB lighting. Yeah. And then like the like intellectually, I know it's dumb and gimmicky and stupid, but like my eyes are just like, give me more. It's like, I porn, you know. The funny thing is like, I think the PC enthusiast takes a lot of flack for caring about RGB lighting. But then for some reason, actually, no, we do make fun of car enthusiasts for their big spoilers. Never mind. Okay. Forget it. The spoilers are just silly. The point that the point the point I was trying to make died before you could get out of my mouth. I was so excited for it. It's like rotting flesh. Wow. Back when like the ducky RGB was coming, ducky shine. Yeah. I was so excited. And then like we got some in at work. I got to see the Corsair one early at CES and all this kind of stuff. And right when I saw it, I was like, oh, I don't know if I care. I have never cared. My personal keyboard at home doesn't even have lights. Just like, nope. And even if it did, I have keycaps that cover them. And I would not swap out my keycaps because I prefer my PBT, Ninja printed gold keycaps way over any light. Such a door. Absolutely. I feel like it's also one of those things where like if I didn't have if I had it like a keyboard that didn't have RGB, I prefer it to have zero lighting whatsoever. I think it's just when you give me one option, that's when I want more. But if you just give me no options and it's not lit up at all, then I'll be like, oh, it's perfectly fine. But if you give me a keyboard that's just like, oh, you can only be red for I'm like, well, why not green? Green's cool. What the fuck, man? Why not red and green? Like Christmas is almost here. I love how you put green the least common. I'm going to put one of those coexist bumper stickers on my keyboard. Yeah. Speaking of green, this next topic. So we'll do one more topic, then we'll do our sponsors and then you can bail if you want or you can sit through the sponsors if you're not too bored by them. Speaking of green, the Razer phone officially announced. Scrappy Z Dog posted on the forum. Kyle, have you seen this? Have you heard about this? Razer phone? Yeah, yeah, yeah, the phone. Yeah, sure. Phone for gamers. It's for gamers. Totally. Totes. I've watched Austin's video on it and I think I watched MKVHD's. Yep. So I haven't watched anyone else's video on it. But yeah. All right. So thoughts. Hit me. Okay. Actually, you know what, Luke? You look like you have something to say. You look like you want to go first. I'm so conflicted. People complain on this show that I never let you talk. You look like you need to talk right now. What do you have to say about the Razer phone? So I was just going to say like, what are people playing on it? Because the first thing that jumped to my mind was like, oh, Clash of Clans. And you don't need a gaming phone to play Clash of Clans. But then also, right after I said that, like, come on now, you don't need this. You need eight gigs to like build a castle in 18 months. Like, no, it's fine. But then I was at TwitchCon the entire time that I was at TwitchCon. The like biggest, most ridiculous booth was Lineage 2, which blew my freaking mind. So I played that like before WoW came out. And I'm like, why are you two? Yeah. What the heck? Exactly. Like that game from way before. I just assumed you were talking about something else entirely. No. But it's called like Ascension or something. And it's a mobile game. And it's like Arena Combat. I have no idea how all of this came together, but it was huge. It was an MMO. I know. I don't. All I saw was Arena Combat. It might have just been the PvP portion of the MMO. I'm not sure. But it's called Lineage 2 and then something. And it's this crazy phone game. And there's graphics all over the place and stuff. So maybe people that like decide that they need to play a PvP MMO on their phone. And like if they're targeting the right audience. Yeah, no, I know. That's the thing. And if they're targeting the right audience, apparently this Lineage 2 game is like top grossing in South Korea and Japan. Wow. And like they had Day 9 on stage the entire event and had Conan O'Brien up on stage with him at one point in time. Like at TwitchCon live on stage. So they got money. Conan O'Brien? He's like still relevant too. Like that must have been a million dollars. It was a lot of money. Remember, there's a difference between. I love Day 9. Well, you know how much Clash of Clans brings in every day. Good Lord. Yeah. Like, wow. Yeah, like that was a weekend. The second I noticed that Day 9 was on stage all the time, I was like, that's really expensive. And then out of nowhere on I think Saturday, Conan is just up on stage with him. And I'm like, that's, I don't care at all. Yeah, because like, here's the thing. Like internet famous people have like appearance fees. Like I'm not gonna lie. Like if someone is like, yeah, we really, really need you to be there. I'm like, well, like I have to travel. I'm away from home. I'm away from the office. I'm not working. Like I'm working. So it costs money. But like my understanding is that for like A slash B list celebrities, like Conan's a big deal. Who are relevant. Like just to like talk is like a million bucks. Okay. Yeah. Potentially. Really? Yes. I don't know. Either way, just like have a conversation. Huge deal booth. And it was weird because you're at this booth and everyone's extremely serious that they can't see me. Everyone's extremely seriously up on stage like game face. This whole team versus that whole team. On their phones. And I'm like, what, what the, what is this? So like apparently there's a market for it. Okay. And Razor's from where? Singapore. So they're pretty close to where that game is grossing really highly. So. Yep. Okay. So why don't we run. I'll run through the quick specs and then let's hear your thoughts, Kyle. 5.7 inch 1440p sharp display. 120 Hertz. That's a big deal. Like obviously I'm not going to poo poo them about that because I made a huge deal of the latest iPad Pro having a 120 Hertz variable refresh rate display. Huge deal. Big fan. I love it. I love this move. Some people in my stream chat when I was talking about this while they were doing it, were like, oh, that's stupid because 120 Hertz is just a waste of battery. No, it's variable refresh rate. So it refreshes when it needs to. So you could turn it down. You could save the power or you could turn it up. You could have a butter smooth experience. And I expect in games it'll try to crank up and then you're like the home screen. Yeah. It's not going to. Love this move. Exactly. And the battery is pretty massive. Isn't like a thousand milliamps or something. Four thousand milliamp hour battery. So they're saying seven hours of gaming continuously. Eight gigs of RAM, 64 gig storage with expansion. Stereo front facing speakers with Dolby Atmos. Though I'm not especially convinced that Dolby Atmos has a ton of value when you have a stereo speaker configuration. I'm not sure. Snapdragon 835. And they're saying because of their cooling, it's the best performing Snapdragon 835 on the market. How thick is the phone? It's not thin, but it's not like a completely ridiculous brick either. It's not that far off what I would consider reasonable. No headphone jack. It's only got like a hundred and twenty milliamps. Seven hundred bucks. No headphone jack. Okay, Kyle, go. Headphone jack, yay or nay? Honestly, it's one of those things where I have just like every phone that I've ever had, even like super crappy headphone jacks. So psychologically, it weirds me out to think about using a phone daily that doesn't have one. But when I think about it realistically in the last like six to twelve months with my Google Pixel first generation, like I have probably used that jack once. Really? I've used mine a ton. I have a Pixel XL. And that's why it's a never ending discussion is because it really just boils down to the end. Are you someone who uses a wired headphone or earbuds with your phone? You know, and I typically don't. You know, when I listen to music, I am either on my desktop and I've got my cans there or I'm in the car and I'm using Bluetooth. So for me, it's one of those things that I could live without. It's nice to have, but it's not necessary for me personally. But I completely understand how some people value that sort of thing, especially like, you know, when you get onto the audiophile spectrum and, you know, you're having phones like the LG's latest one with the V30. Yeah, the V30. I mean, yeah, I get it. I get it. You know, pushing it forward and stuff like that. But for me personally, it's something that I could do without assuming that the rest of the phone is exactly what I'm looking for. Especially with certain mobile gaming titles coming out with like voice chat and stuff built in. Yeah. Like the need to be on headphones actually sounds pretty major. And I know there's a big battery, but they're talking about a gaming phone. I know they say seven hours. That's going to go down. Yeah. If you're using a Bluetooth headset, that goes down. Yeah. And that's going to go down over usage of the phone as well. Yep. And the more you load it up with stuff, you add voice chat in. That's more things that need to be processed. Like I'm using my headphone jack right now to listen to you, Kyle. So you might say I'm not really... I might do better off without it. That's a really sad case. Wow. Wow. But like I said, it's one of those things where you're really not going to care much or you're going to be like desperately in need of it. I feel like there's zero gray area here. With that said, I have gotten used to not having a headphone jack, mostly. Because I've been working on my Pixel 2 review. I was working on my review of the iPhone 8 and the 8 Plus. There's at least one other. Yeah. I was working on my review of the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2. And these are all phones that don't have headphone jacks. And I'm just used to now carrying around this weird, stupid multi-dangle adapter thing that I built myself so that I just have something on hand at home time. I didn't know you strapped it all together. Yeah, because this way... You like made your own multi-gable. So I can run this one through here and then the whole thing sticks together. Oh, wow. Actually, this was not my idea. This came with the Moto Z Force. OK. And I liberated it. And then I included. I came up with the idea of putting multiple adapters on it. That's all that I contributed to this. I tried to find one to buy because I was like, I should get some spares of these. Yeah. And I couldn't. I don't even know what to search for in Amazon. Like the dongle holder. Dongle holder, headphone adapter, pro, waterproof. We should do it as like an LTT merch item. Yeah, that'd be cool. Just like get like five thousand of them. Maybe like, yep, yep, we invented this. Like Kyle's fidget spinner. We invented this out of Motorola's included accessories. Did you really do a fidget spinner? I did. You're a monster. They sold miraculously. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But you know what? I haven't replenished them. As soon as they sold out, that was that was the only stock because that's literally about how long that that would have been pretty risky. Yeah. Oh, yeah. All right. So there you go. Razer phone. I had a lot of people. I don't know. Hold up. I don't know where people are getting this from. There's some people in chat like this is so annoying. They said it's not a gaming phone. No, we didn't. We didn't say it's not a gaming phone. Oh, I thought they were saying Razer said it's not a gaming phone. It's totally a gaming phone. Who said it's not a gaming phone? I don't know where the chat sort of got that from. It's a gaming phone. Yeah, it's a gaming phone. Everyone agrees. It's a gaming phone. Yeah, we don't know why it's a gaming phone other than the high refresh rate display. And that Razer said it is got some RAM. Yeah. Battery. Yeah, but it doesn't have like, okay, this is the okay. I find Razer very frustrating sometimes. And this is not because they didn't send me a phone and they did send some to other tech YouTubers. That's not why I'm upset. I did have a call with them about that. So we definitely talked about it. But yeah, it's all good. I'm not salty, but I did blow up their facility. Yeah, which is why I'm not salty anymore. Apparently they're upset because they called it a phone for gamers, not a gaming phone. Wow, I don't care. Okay, so the problem with Razer frustrates me sometimes because they do this stuff. They're like, and it has the most amazing battery, the best battery, the biggest battery in a flagship phone. My friends call me and they say it's an amazing battery. They say it's an amazing battery. And he really did sound like that. A triumphant. Did you watch the keynote, Kyle? Amazing. Wait, did I watch what? The keynote announcement. A tremendous battery. No, I did not watch the keynote. Okay, it's pretty amazing. It's tremendous. It's the best. Anyway, the point is they're just like, and then they show how big the battery is and it's 4,000 milliamp hours. And I was like, okay, you do realize that the Galaxy S8 Active is arguably a flagship phone because it's a Galaxy S8. Oh, and by the way, it has a 4,000 milliamp hour battery. So yes, while technically you do have, oh, and also it ignores the Mate 10, so that's a whole other thing. But you could make the argument that if they're not competing in the same markets, then it's the biggest in a flagship phone. No, no, there's no way to defend this. So there was a lot of embellishment and Razer does tend to do these things. I actually have a bit coming in my upcoming review of the Razer Blade 4K, where there were three things in their reviewer's guide that ranged from misleading to outright false. And I'm just sitting here going, what are you guys even doing? That's good. Do your job. There's a lot of companies that do that. Look it up. Come on. Yeah, I was just, I was finding it particularly cringe worthy during the, during this stream the other day. Apparently the P2 has a 5100 milliamp hour battery. So there's that. You know what though, I don't want to take anything away from them about the front facing speakers and the 120 Hertz display. Both of those are very cool. Both of those things make it enough of a gaming phone that I'm not going to Raz them too hard. Yeah, I agree. I think the refresh rate. I mean, there's, there's so much emphasis on pixel pushing. Like we have the highest resolution phone ever. No, we have the highest resolution and like everyone forgets about refresh rate. So it's kind of cool to see a company like Razer who's always been sort of more gamer centric to come in and be like, look, pixel count isn't the only thing that matters you noobs and you know actually do something about it. So that's cool. It did drive me, it did drive me pretty crazy when they were talking about how this was the first mobile device with a variable refresh rate 120 Hertz display because the last time I checked the iPad Pro is technically not a phone, but it's definitely a mobile device. Everything's mobile device. That's true. Technically a desktop is a mobile device if you're willing to sort of put the saddlebags on the pony. Yeah. Oh Lordy. Well people in chat are asking what is a gaming phone. I think the 120 Hertz phone is a gaming phone right now. Yeah, I think that's fair. Yeah, yeah. It's got extra RAM. It's got extra battery life. It's got a nice screen forward facing speakers. You can sit there and play your thing. Sure. I mean I can see why people are upset about no headphone jack on a gaming phone. Also Razer's camera looks pretty trash. They just want you to be really obnoxious on the train from the demo shots. And they didn't really. Okay. I did tune out of the stream before it was completely over, but they didn't really talk about the front facing camera at all during the like the meat of the announcement. Not a selfie. That bad, huh? But well I don't know. Maybe it's great, but I would expect a gaming phone to have a great front facing camera. Why? Yeah. Streaming? Yeah, streaming. Yeah, for streaming. Yeah. Yep. I would expect the front facing camera to be like as good as the rear shooter. If you're going to say, yep, this is like the gaming phone. Yeah. So we'll see. That makes sense. All right. So we have to do our sponsors now. So Kyle, did you want to piece out? I know we've kept you an hour and a half after when you said you had to go or do you want to hang around and chill with us? Yes, guys. As much as I enjoy it. All right. Probably going to have to bow out. All right. So one last time guys. Kyle is now available on Float Plane. It's the best. Yeah. The best Float Plane. The best Float Plane. It's the greatest. It's insane. This Float Plane. I mean, at being a plane that can float, it's pretty bad. But being a website that streams things, I mean, it also doesn't exist yet. But at serving video through a forum, we're doing pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. So you can head over there. Yeah, you can head over there. It's so you're aiming for one week windows on your content. So one week early access, is that correct? That is true. So there you go, guys. Go check it out. BitWit Ultra. And you can see the video that we were talking about earlier. The best RGB fans on the market. The best. What's going on, guys? Welcome back to the channel. Hope you're all doing well. It's a good video. It's a good video. And I will say I enjoyed your testing as well. It was good. Oh, thanks, Luke. Yeah. See, this is why I like you more. Do you see that buffering? Do you see how fast that video is buffering? Okay, arguably we're on 360p. So I did mention that. I'm cheating a little bit. I'm cheating a little bit. Even better. Look how fast. Still, still, come on. Come on, baby. Look at that responsive player. Look at that responsive player. Isn't that beautiful? Yeah. Super thin. Okay, I'll stop pimping Kyle and I'll stop pimping floatplane right now. All right. And I will start pimping our sponsors for the WAN Show today. All right. See you, Kyle. Bye, guys. Thanks. Bye. All right. So number one is Synergy. Oh, my goodness. Can you believe how late it is? I'm sorry. You can leave too if you want. It's so late. No, I will stay. Synergy is the solution to your problem of having multiple computers with multiple keyboards and mice and not wanting to do that anymore. Yeah, you don't need that anymore. This is terrible. Oh, I know. Those headphones. 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Oh really yeah, remember that super tiny one that they had that was kind of plasticky This one looks a lot nicer actually It's really sharp Cool kind of looks in a slightly nostalgic way it kind of looks like a I Don't know what's like a battery bank or like it looks like a lot of different things to be fair This looks like a like it doesn't look like it at all But like a 3.5 inch floppy with the like slidey thing on top. I see your point I see where you're coming from like no, but also sort of they're giving away an mi 553 so this guy's higher performance a core i5 7300 HQ quad core. It's got it's ready for Optane memory It's got Thunderbolt 3 so you could even hook up an external GPU to it at some point if the price has ever come down on those and basically this would be like a very portable pretty slick little low power workstation and Finally they are also giving away a zbox en 1070 K-u So this guy is available in a GTX 1060 or 1070 configuration and has a core i5 7500 T processor this is lots of quad core processor this one the one that we're giving away for that one It comes with the GTX 1070, but it's a barebone So you're gonna need to add your own drive and RAM so the giveaway will be running for two weeks from today And the link is actually I'm gonna post that in the twitch chat, and we're gonna have it below the archived video on YouTube So go check that out guys go join the party boom All right, this was a week where we actually had a lot of tech news to cover and then just didn't So should we try and go through some of this stuff? Do you want to talk about blizzard? I mean I'm down I don't actually have a ton to say surprisingly Okay, so supposed to be a John is on the forum the original articles from PC gamer. I can keep it kind of short There's a lot of places that This was trending on Twitter which just shows how many people are actually into it. I think that's actually kind of cool There's a huge amount of gaming news articles that all announced this at like the same time. I believe yeah This one actually had some details from Blizzard's vice president, which was kind of cool. They are bringing back classic servers This is a commitment to do it. This is not a it's coming now They've asked for people to be patient. I'm kind of suspecting. It's gonna be like a year Yeah, while some of what they said about why they couldn't do it sounded like BS. There are legitimately Probably some things that will have to be rebuilt. They're hiring a staff specific specifically for this which is one problem They're gonna run into is trying to find people That and they're trying to make it so that staff is all passionate about this project, right? So they're trying to find very specific people. I'm sure there's tons of them, but they're gonna have to vet them all that kind of stuff They are changing certain things They're they're they're not making it so that this cross-server you will be on one server, which is very cool That was one thing people were really worried about there's no looking for group There's no looking for raid both of those were very important to people but they will be changing some things I wouldn't be surprised if there's like achievements and you can like buy certain pets and like some of the some Microtransaction, yeah, 2017 stuff. Yeah, maybe you can buy a certain mount That's like from the store only like they do in the modern games I have no idea but I wouldn't be surprised if there's some microtransaction II things going on But I don't think it'll be anything major. I really hope they don't add a character boost. I don't think they will I think it'll be okay But who knows? Yeah, no date. It's gonna be awesome. I'm definitely gonna be on it A lot of people I know are gonna be on it, which is gonna be cool If you want to come play with me, I'm super down. Let's do it up That's all I really have to say Cool. Yeah, I'm very happy that they actually did it Let me have a look and see if actually some of this stuff we can watch the Yeah, I don't know It's at the top of the thing if you want to watch it I kind of wanted to talk about this posted by aluminium tech on the forum original article from the verge Apple fired the engineer whose daughter's hands-on video of the iPhone 10 went viral When she published it A lot of published early? Yeah Oh Yeah, and a lot of people are siding with the engineer here Basically what went down was she published a vlog that included a trip to the Apple campus to visit her dad and see an unreleased iPhone 10 The video was quickly picked up by sites like 9to5 and the video was quickly picked up by sites like 9to5 Mac and spread even further on YouTube So her dad basically violated a company rule by allowing her to film the unreleased handset as filming on Apple's campuses is strictly prohibited The video included footage of an iPhone 10 with special employee only QR codes A notes app was also shown on the iPhone 10 in the video which appeared to include code names of unreleased Apple products Wow, so a lot of people are kind of defending the engineer defending the engineer And that is super dumb. Yeah, basically. Yeah, this was literally In okay. I haven't personally read an Apple engineer employee agreement because I'm not an engineer and I don't think I'm sure this is a Huge deal within it. But like yeah, that's really bad Take this from someone who has never worked at Apple and probably will never work at Apple. I know That this would get me fired from Apple It is not rocket surgery to figure out how secretive Apple is and how seriously they would take something like this And even if they didn't want to do it, they would have no choice They are completely backed into a corner on something like this If the whole thing had been quiet and the video hadn't gone viral and they had like seen him doing it been like whoa Yo, remember you're not supposed to film here That wouldn't have been fireable probably if they could have just kind of gone. Okay, we all dodged a bullet there But the fact that this went viral the fact that it was his daughter So they knew exactly who it was everyone in the company would see this and go. Oh, well if he can do it then Hashtag YOLO who cares I can do it too Apple is so secretive and the development time on a project That Apple would release whether it's an iPhone 10 or an Apple TV or who knows maybe it's the Apple car Whatever it is could be anywhere from six months to 12 months to 24 months to 36 months A company like that is working on tech that you won't see for years and they have to take that kind of thing seriously Because you look at how quickly their competitors will try to clone what they're doing With the level of secrecy that they've achieved and now imagine if their competitors knew that that was the direction Apple was going You know a year or two years or three years in advance they cannot afford that that is Apple's entire value as a you know Whatever however many billions of dollars that they're worth That's Apple's value is that they are For better whether you agree or not that they're innovators that they are trendsetters That they are forward thinkers because the iPhone itself as just a piece of Cellular communications hardware is not that special. I think we can all agree on that And They just they had no choice. Sorry people are saying in the chat that he didn't know Unfortunately, it doesn't actually matter. No one cares. Yeah, no one doesn't matter and and like someone in the comments on the official post From I believe it was the verge was saying like oh This might be really good for them actually because some other company will just pick them up not necessarily That's a that's a big mark on your name in that industry like Microsoft has fired people for this before Nintendo has fired people for this before I believe Sony has fired people for this before Probably whether we hear about it or not the fact that it's Apple That's the iPhone 10 is probably the only reason that we're hearing about it at all Nintendo fired not only one parent but both Really? Yeah, and one of them had like super nothing to do with it. No, that's stupid. Nope your family, but that's Nintendo. Yeah And Nintendo is also very vicious about these types of NDA things and they always have been In other news Broadcom to acquire Qualcomm, I actually had no idea that Broadcom was that big They should rename to ComCom They should rename to ComCom. You don't like Broadqual? People apparently line up for the iPhone 10. So while a lot of analysts were Super concerned about the fact that no one seemed that amped on the iPhone 8 Bloomberg has this fantastic little Chart in their article on this where they show lineups and I don't Lineups for iPhones, I don't know how exactly they measured this People lining up in the mornings. Yeah, what whatever anyway, it kind of makes this kind of makes sense that plus and See would have had big lines because all of a sudden there was a cheap iPhone which was kind of neat I guess iPhone 4 was sort of a big deal. Yeah, it was iPhone 6 6 plus was a huge deal And then like nothing's really changed since then And then iPhone 10 It's showing that even though the iPhone 8 8 plus was literally the least exciting iPhone of all time The iPhone 10 is right back up there with the 5 even if it's not up there with the 4 the 5s 5c and the 6 and 6 But then again the 4 and the 6 and 6 plus were were freaking huge Yeah, so there you go. Maybe Apple's not going out of business yet after all. I don't know What else we got going on here Raise your phone You know what I'm done. Okay, great show great show today everyone. Thank you for tuning in We'll see you again next week same bat time same bat channel. Bye Boop I Feel bad for James when we only cover like a third of his topic and this was a really good doc, too Yeah, it was actually an excellent like excellent doc of any week to not cover topics This was the wrong one because there's actually a lot of really good. Yeah I know I could have talked about AMD epic getting 64 cores Yeah, I don't think we talked about it all in videos AI faces which were like yeah, which are like actually kind of cool So tech synergy, but you know if people wanted tech news would they really tune into the land?