 Go covering everything that's hot and new and interesting whether it's on the gaming side technology side or just introducing the show Which I realize we never do Which we did last week. Did you oh, okay introducing the choice in like this is the WAN show Yeah, like like what exactly are you watching right now? And like why would you possibly care about it is sort of a sort of an important thing? But yeah, there you go. So guys we have a ton of like just completely ridiculously crazy topics this week Extremely excited about them. We have our special guest Austin Evans aka Duncan 33303 on YouTube If you've never heard of him before then go go check him out Because he's a sexy beast and he's gonna be joining us in about 25 minutes on the show to talk we hope Okay, he just fried the outlet that powers his computer So I guess he's probably looking for an extension cord right now, but and I'll be quoted on this no Self-respecting geek should ever be without a reasonably nearby extension cord. So Austin you better have one So we're gonna have him on as a guest. He was with me in Hawaii So yeah, he says all should be good now had to switch to extension cables. Yeah. Yeah, there you go, man So he was with me in Hawaii and saw all of the demonstrations and presentations the live one Which everyone saw and the NDA one which we cannot talk about AMD won't even tell us what the NDA date is For the NDA. It's like just to be determined. So we're gonna talk about that We're also gonna talk about the steam triple threat announcements go boom Okay so the first one was steam OS which was in my opinion the biggest one because the next one people kind of already knew but Steam OS is a Linux platform that steam is kind of editing to themselves We'll go into that in more depth later and then steam machines which are the the steam box that people were talking about forever There's more information about that and then a steam controller that doesn't have thumbsticks. It has touchpad Small small head explosion. Yeah, I mean my head's exploding but not necessarily for the reasons that the other two made my head Explode other things that did make my head explode though Nvidia has come out and said look we're gonna give better to sport to Linux and that is obviously a huge deal and who knows Maybe slightly related to that more on that. I'm just we're teasing the topics You know, we can't tell you everything right now and the chaos computer club has broken the fingerprint scanner on the iPhone 5s Already, but I'm gonna play devil's advocate a little bit when we're discussing this because I don't necessarily think that's that big of a deal So without further ado, here's the intro and short word from our sponsors Guys this episode is brought to you by Squarespace comm Squarespace is the easy way to create a beautiful functional website for your organization Blog online store or more visit Squarespace comm to get a free fully functional trial and use offer code Linus 9 to get 20% off your first purchase only in September Hotspot shield is also bringing you this episode and it's a very simple and easy way to set up a VPN for your networks If you have to get around certain things you can access your email or something when you're on a free open Wi-Fi hotspot Or if you just want extra security, it's very simple and easy not only that but if you're on iOS It actually does support compressing the data when you're browsing the web So you will not use as much of your mobile data plan when you're on the go And without further ado, let's just jump right into our first topic which isn't one that we teased Surface Pro 2 it's a thing It's a thing and it's and it's more of an interesting thing than I think the original one was Because they fixed a lot of those kind of glaring problems. The battery life is way better Color accuracy is better on the screen, which is interesting, but already had a pretty good screen. Yeah, it was okay I mean the thing to me that's that's actually more interesting here is not only Surface 2 is coming and has a more color accurate screen But rather surface Pro 2 surface 2 which I guess they would call surface RT 2 if surface RT didn't have such a terrible terrible reputation Is also coming and is also getting a 1080p screen upgrade Okay, so now both surface Pro 2 and surface 2 the RT version which makes makes the naming very confusing Are going to have 1080p screens. There's a variety of other improvements So guys the original article here is from and gadget But I think the biggest ones are going to be well as well As well as huge for surface Pro 2 I mean we're looking at I think they're quoting said double digits better performance so 20 to 30 percent better performance something along those lines and a 75% Better battery even when surface Pro first launched we've both talked about we're interested in this one because it's an interesting product But we're interested in when it comes up with has well, yes We said that like way back so now that's here and that's actually really cool And I mean this is part of the well what this does is I guess it validates It validates Intel's approach with has well where they came out and they said look It's that well they didn't come up and say it, but it was pretty obvious. This is not an enthusiast desktop gaming CPU That's not what this is for what this is for is it's for energy efficiency Particularly making it more scalable down to much smaller form factor So Microsoft has made some other improvements to the device as well So for example there's a new power cover that actually improves battery life by two and a half times So if we do some quick math here original surface was good for sort of three and a half to four and a half hours of battery Which is not enough for a tablet so 75% better puts us around six and a half hours battery And then the two and a half times would put us around 15 to 18 hours of battery like 15 16 hours of battery Now we're talking yeah, like it's a lot better now. We're talking. This is a productivity device because to me that was the appeal of Surface RT for that matter and surface was that now all of a sudden. It's a mobile device that is genuinely Genuinely portable and tablet II but also genuinely productive And and I mean here's the thing though is Actually, this isn't on our this isn't really on our topics, but I want to I want to discuss this so okay surface to surface Pro 2 Okay, it's got better battery life. It's got an okay screen the new type cover Which is the cover that sits on it that actually has a tactile keyboard so not the touch cover Which was just touch sensitive is backlit now and is slightly thinner and is slightly thinner So so there's all these things but Realistically if you wanted something that was in between a tablet and a laptop nowadays. Do you just pick up a convertible? So something like this where you flip the screen around boom if you really wanted a Windows 8 tablet now you have one And like there is situations where a tablet would be better if you want to be able to walk around I've used this like four times now since the last time I talked about this when I created a video before I left I think I said three times, and I used it like this once on my trip I was like watching Netflix videos, and I put it up like this because that was slightly more convenient Personally, I don't really care, but I have seen like I used to work in a like a warehousey type thing and One of the guys bought a one of those old HP spin around they can't see your hands when you put them down there There we go old HP laptops where you could take the screen and spin it around like this Hinge in the middle yeah, you'd have one of those that he could walk down and write notes down Okay, because that was better for him, so so maybe it's not the best use case for you or me I wouldn't care, but it might be a better use case for some people and the pro 2 still has the stylus Whereas the surface 2 does not come with a stylus. I mean the pricing is okay hold on Let's let's finish talking about it a little bit more so They've improved the kickstand so the kickstand I actually liked the kickstand because their whole thing with kickstand was that they wanted it to feel like like a car door Was what they compared it to you know? Now it has two settings so instead of being stuck at but like the one angle and only one angle Now you can actually adjust it to a couple different angles I mean this is a problem that is that not only plagued surface Pro But also other convertibles like I've actually grown to really like Dell's implementation of their convertible Tablet notebook thing convertible ultrabook. I guess that's what it's called sorry sorry for anyone. I didn't tell who's watching It's not a tablet. It's not a notebook. It's an ultrabook so convertible ultrabook I mean, but we have a Sony via duo 13. Did you check that thing out? No, it's it's only one angle the Electronics are actually exposed when the hinge is open It doesn't close so that the glass of the screen can go down on top of the keyboard and it can be protected on both Sides the screen stays up even when you close it and so it's just a tablet or just a tablet That's propped up like to me. That's not really convertible I like that style more I think this feels better to me or something like the Lenovo yoga where it has the 360-degree hinge So so I mean that's that's sort of my take is do you want to go surface to where you get the thinner form factor? Because it really is yeah, you're getting great battery life out of it if you go with something like a battery cover Or do you want the slightly bulk here, but potentially more versatile? I mean, this is gonna have a better keyboard than even the the type cover It comes down to what you want to choose and I mean, I think if you put surface Pro in the context of Pricing it compared to a convertible Ultrabook it starts to get more appealing. Yeah, if you if you compare it to other tablets not so much So at 899 for a 64 gig 4 gig RAM version and it scales up to I think 512 and 8 gig if I recall correctly don't quote me on that though. So that starts at $900. That is an extremely Expensive 64 gig tablet, but it comes with a 1.6 gigahertz core i5 has well processor in it Which makes it dramatically more powerful than your other tablet. Yeah But but then I mean you look at something like this or something like an Aspire s7 or a super spoon notebook You're paying over a thousand dollars for sure But then it probably doesn't come in such a low spec config so it it comes down to your needs But surface Pro 2 is to me a really important step because surface Pro made no sense due to its low battery life Surface Pro 2 now we could actually go. Okay. Yeah, there's a scenario for this. Yeah, there's a person that this product fits with So that that makes me feel a lot better about the direction Microsoft's heading in terms of product. I mean The funny thing is is Apple's the only one that ever really does it where they launch a product MacBook Air iPad iPhone they launch a product that's actually ready for primetime Everyone else seems to be content to kind of go. Let's create like like like a V 0.5 You know Samsung Galaxy S. Yeah, the first one sucked Yeah, you know like this when it came out we knew that the good one was gonna be has well We knew how it was coming in like eight months or nine months or however many like it was months not years So we knew has well was gonna be more power efficient We knew that this product was a stopgap like let's get something out there Even though Microsoft must have known that it that it didn't make the most sense in the world So so it's like we but we let everyone else get away with this whether it's I mean the original asus Zenbook was Terrible the touchpad was broken on it Yeah, and and we but but we let them get away with it So let's give Microsoft sort of the benefit of the doubt here. Let's let them get away with this one Surface 2 is interesting as well. So it gets the 1080p screen upgrade. It's only 450 bucks, which is really tablet priced And it comes with a Tegra 4 processor. So based on my experience with Tegra 4 so far Beast yeah loving it. Oh, I forgot to mention surface Pro 2 supports 4k output Yeah, 4k, but at 30 Hertz or 20 Hertz or whatever So so surface 2 is interesting if you're willing to deal with the whole You know surface RT our windows RT thing to me the the most offensive thing about about About like metro apps or modern modern UI apps is that it just feels like Not a lot of thought was put into some of them Like for example the the default photo viewer on Windows 8 is is is just one of the worst Experiences you could possibly have so here. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna open something sort of open with and I could share my screen with you, but but I'm not going to so I'm opening with the photos app And I just want to show you guys like I still can't figure out Like how to get to all the other all the other pictures that are in this folder like they're just they're just not here and Like how do I control it like I can okay? So I can rotate delete crop and set as and like do a slideshow well You know like it's just not at like like how do I control with the mouse? Can I you know there's like little tiny buttons over here that like it just feels like okay? This was meant to be used one way and that is as like a picture frame yeah As like a photo frame and like okay. Oh, yeah, and when you get here. It's like okay Well like now now what now can I so I have to swipe it over here I have to use there like their multitasking UI here using this screen with a mouse and keyboard is is like is Redonkulous it just it's not It I mean it comes down to my complaints about Windows 8 in general And I really don't feel like 8.1 has really addressed any of them it fixed a few things, but like yeah But I'm still not that happy. That's why it's point one didn't really go that far all right So speaking of things that didn't go that far Apple's efforts to make their new phone have you know the most advanced touch identification technology Ever ever ever so this is from the Chaos Computer Club ccc.de the biometrics hacking team has broken their Has broken their security in two days And and like a large part of that from from what I could glean from the article a large part of that was like They probably didn't get it on the exact first day And like they probably didn't work that hard like it yeah, it was not hard for them to do so You know what I just realized that I never changed the twitch thing when show now Tech and news I should just like update that on the on the whole twitch thing So I want to play for you guys just a little bit We're not gonna watch the whole thing again, but we watched this video back when I Back when I oh no, this is a video. This is them breaking. Okay. This is their video So I'm just gonna turn the sound off. It's only about a minute long, but but basically it's similar to the Mythbusters Well, he doesn't show like the creation everything but what he shows here is he's putting in his fingerprint with his Pointer finger and then what he does is he puts the printed? Fingerprint onto his middle finger and then logs in with his middle finger that should not work you have unique fingerprints on each one of Your fingers right so basically what? So so what they did in the Mythbusters episode was they just created Like fake fake finger skins that yeah That's what they did here And then and then they even went as far as to just use like a piece of plastic And then just lick it and put that on there And well, I think they just printed one out and then cut the piece of paper and yeah the piece of paper They did that one so so basically what what we what we've determined here and what what the Chaos Computer Club is saying is like Have they done anything here in terms of you know? Subdermal scanning and all the stuff that they're talking about it looks like it's just a higher resolution fingerprint scanner Yeah, which isn't a bad thing No, but it's not as cool as they tried to make it sound. I mean it's one of those okay here I'm gonna play devil's advocate, and I'm gonna say it doesn't matter what because it's because it's totally irrelevant Unless you are okay. It's irrelevant to you, and it's irrelevant to me It might not be irrelevant to the President of the United States of America. Yeah, for example someone where yes That's why I've actually put in here Are we getting one it would be cool to see because I would like to actually have a video. Yeah Okay, yeah I'm gonna buy one I want to try and have it where I have to try and steal your fingerprint somehow and then create One and log into your phone sure because I would like to see how easy it is our new camera is here So diesel is gonna drop it off on with me on Saturday, so I can play around with a little bit So what I'm thinking is maybe I just either with your phone or with your or with that camera your way Yeah, you should try to blog the process and now that I'm aware of it Just like on the myth busters thing I will I'll try not to leave sure clean fingerprints all over the place because if you're someone That's that worried you should be actively trying out to leave clean fingerprints exactly So let's find out if he can if he can actually legit break it and that'll be a really fun experiment but I mean I I Definitely hear where you're coming from the chaos computer club is basically saying that Fingerprint biometrics and a few other different types of biometrics are just not as secure as they are put out to be So yeah people are assuming no one's gonna be able to get this unless they have my finger and that's not true That's what they're trying to say and there and that is a really good message because while I still don't think it matters Because if you're worried about your little brother breaking into your phone and texting your friends You know the pictures of you that you hide somewhere else But he figured out where they are because he's the creepiest little brother Gusting so if you're worried about something like that, I think it's enough Yeah, whereas if you're worried about you know a critical company data you work for a multi bajillion dollar company a pass Phrase is still the way to go. Yeah, so that is like a nice long string Of it doesn't have to be random characters. It can be you know I really love my son and wife You know heart That is a very strong password is so there you go guys Our guest is gonna be joining us in about five minutes. Why don't we do a quick Twitter blitz guys? I hit us up with any questions whether it's about my trip to Hawaii whether it's about You know I know there were a lot of questions about slicks Co-host last week so if you have any clarifying questions Yes, he is the firefighter from the IO safe video, so I will say that much and no that was not a costume He is a legit firefighter. You saw in the video. He was like in the fire They don't let just anyone do that We were being very closely super violent he was he was grabbing Pallets that were on fire and putting them on top of the NAS for us. Yeah, so let's just let's go ahead and Hit that wow 52 interactions all right Um sup NFF 12 or NFP. You know what I'm behind the mic today, so I'm gonna get you to answer these so I Would go enough wait what would one for me to be better for a cooler rig yeah one form 140 millimeter would be better But then you're dealing with 120 millimeter fans in the question, but I would say NFF 12 Yeah, NFF 12 are just kind of the boss yeah, and I've 12 12 are pretty sweet We ordered an XA 20 from Canon something that I can use, but that is not the one We're currently on we just aren't very good at setting it up. That's why it looks. Yeah, we're on the FS 700 right now news on the cat Unfortunately no I set up some food and water And a little bed for him in my garage when I went away And I left the door open but like with tires barricading it because we were leaving our our back door open and a coyote came into our house and like He'd all the cats food and all our cereal and stuff so So anyway, so I so I left that for him, and then I left my my iPhone set up with a time-lapse like taking a picture every minute of the food and Rocket didn't come back for it. No one came back for it, so I think he's I think he's gone although at the same time Like while it totally sucks for the people that are freaking out Rockets kind of the biggest badass of the cat I've ever met in my life so he's probably doing okay for himself He might be out there. He might be okay. He's super careful. He's super cautious and Yeah, I really hope he's okay. I hope someone stole him. That's what I hoped for You know I hope someone has him and he's safe. That's that's all I really want now What do you think of GTA 5 having microtransactions? I think it's necessary I mean you look at how much was spent on the development and you can kind of go oh well They spent 250 million and they made back and they made it back in hours or whatever you might want to say about it But they have to be profitable enough for when they're not Making GTA 5 and when they're developing GTA 6 and all the lapsed time in between When they're not actually developing anything and they still have to pay employees and research and or when they're working on bug fixes or improving The content that's within GTA 5 or whatever else they want to work on maybe who knows maybe they want to try something That's not GTA. They do I know that but what if they want to try something that's not GTA that they that they don't have any previous revenue to draw upon Companies have to make money. Yeah, they have to make money. You don't have to buy in-game items I didn't know that GTA was gonna have microtransactions Yeah, personally to be completely I wouldn't be surprised if they do I don't know what they would I don't know what they would have that would be microtransactions. I'm not surprised Okay, you spent something something something Okay, well Oh GTA online does GTA online has microtransaction that makes a lot more That makes so much more sense that makes so much more sense GTA online again Well everything I said before GTA online Yeah, same thing and even more so because when you actually have servers that you're running and maintaining and you're continuing to develop new content Which was a promise that they have for GTA online Then you but what else are you gonna do? I prefer microtransactions to monthly subscriptions I'll say that do you prefer the like free-to-play microtransaction style? Mmm, not necessarily so you prefer a single upfront cost with microtransactions after that I think that's my that's my preferred choice. Yeah, I just yeah. Yeah Your guess on the price of r9 290x. You know what? That's that's a very fair question because I don't know so I can talk about it My guess would be pretty much what you're saying. I would be surprised if they come in under 599 though Because based on the rumored performance Which you can go out and find because I'm not gonna talk about that because I've seen performance Based on the rumored performance and how it'll line up. I think that They could price it kind of at whatever they wanted to based on the current landscape and I suspect Someone like Nvidia is probably kind of sitting there waiting for them to show their hand and we're gonna see We're gonna see some aggressive price movements over the next little bit and then things are gonna settle in until Maxwell launches in q1 Yeah How do I install a program when I do a clean install of Windows 8? I don't care what I have to do I just want it done. Huh? I'm not sure sorry. Sorry my night. Not sure the question is dot-com ni nite Is it worth the money if I can get 690 for the same money? I don't know man Let's wait until yeah, why don't we wait and see what the benchmarks look like got a sound problem Volume decreases randomly even if I disable the Windows communication thing. I think there's a global setting for that That's not just Windows communication. You might want to go go check into that. Apparently I look like Michael Bolton Okay, sorry to hear that We want to do want to fire up our call with Austin because he's gonna be joining us Hopefully in about one minute here. So we're really excited about that. All right. Nice seeing you guys live. Great job on the show Thank you was watching text into kit Logan's a good guy I have no problem telling people watch text into kit because yeah, he's a good guy I was sorry. He wasn't able to be at the GPU 14 event from AMD I'm not sure if he got an invite or maybe they missed him, but I mentioned him while I was there So hopefully it was just an oversight and it doesn't happen again or he was busy or something any details on the mysterious 290 I Can say that It's mysterious. I can say that it's if there was an r9 290 non-x that it would probably be closely related to a 290x What do you think about the new steam controller more on this later, yeah We're ready to go whenever ready to go. All right. Why don't we do like a couple more Twitter blitz questions here? GT for what game are you waiting for star citizen if you guys check out my vlogs from the AMD event I Met okay. I got it I got to talk about this for like a minute or so and you know what we'll probably bring Austin on in the middle Of it because he was he was filming my fangirl moment. Yeah, I know so okay guys I met Chris Roberts who is the The the guy behind star citizen so formerly of wing commander and freelancer, which is one of my favorite games ever but unfortunately didn't get any kind of Sequel or anything, but I have it from him Him from Chris I get to call him Chris now Anyway, I have it from I have it from Chris and he's like, yeah I mean you could see this as a spiritual successor to freelance from like that's all I need to hear man And that 250 bucks I dropped on my constellation is totally worth it He pulled out like the biggest the biggest surprise of for me of the conference Okay, no mantle was probably the biggest thing. Okay, the second biggest thing of the entire AMD event Which was the hanger module was updated so you could walk up into the turret So I got to hear him on stage talking about the turret and you know what the craziest thing about it And let's go ahead and let's bring Austin in now was The craziest thing about it is he live can I listen to him Austin are you there? Hey, how you doing Pretty good. Is my audio? Okay a few technical issues when I was getting set up earlier We turned you up a bit just now, so it should be good. But Okay, so where was I going with this? The turret was amazing and oh, yeah so after after the show I walked up to him and if you haven't watched the vlog already then you don't know this already and I was like about to introduce myself and he's just like, oh, yeah, I've watched your videos. I'm like That was that made my Month at least so that was that was super exciting. So Austin welcome to the show Can you take maybe a couple minutes here and introduce yourself for those members of our audience who don't already know who you are Yeah, definitely So my name is Austin. I do tech videos kind of like mr Linus here, although probably more of the boring kind of stuff like phones and tablets and that kind of stuff But I also do PC gaming and obviously we were both at the the AMD event actually just yesterday So yeah Alright, so guys you can find him at youtube.com Austin Evans or youtube.com Duncan three three three three the old blink does still work You know what? I think I don't know if this is in our list of topics that I wanted to discuss with you But I want to kick this off because you and I spent quite a bit of time talking about this on the trip I'm speaking of being able to find you at Duncan three three three or Austin Evans the amount of integration that Google is Moving forward with between YouTube and Google plus go Yeah, cuz you had you had some really interesting thoughts on this so let's hear it Yeah, so it's kind of interesting because we were yeah, we were obviously out in Hawaii We actually on a hike So I was trying to like find data because I just like check my tweets and like by the way YouTube comments are gone It's all Google plus now. We were like what what what huh? so basically the idea here if you guys haven't seen is that Google plus has always kind of been at least for the last couple years has always been kind of on a collision course with YouTube So who was always trying to you know integrate them more? I mean it started with little things and now it's behind getting on to bigger things like for example How I was able to change my name is I was able to link it with my Google plus which now instead of seeing Duncan three three three or three on my channel. It's Austin Evans another is just kind of taking that next step further with the Google plus comments So I don't think it's a too controversial thing to say that the comments on YouTube have never really been all that great Yep, I mean I think one of the problems I brought up with you particularly Was that I really hated the way that I would reply to a comment someone says something like oh Linus You got the spec wrong, and I'd say you know well no actually depending on whatever This is this is how it is and it would get like you know 150 thumbs up So it would this should in theory sit at the top But because of their decay algorithm and because of just YouTube being YouTube it would often get lost And it would just fall away And so we'd end up with a ton of the same comment about something that the uploader is already addressed So maybe maybe walk through some of the changes that they're making to make the comments not only friendlier But also better for the uploaders themselves Well, I would but the thing is I actually haven't been able to test them yet I've just pretty much all I know so far is just what they've kind of announced yet That it's not even coming out for another couple months right yeah, not to end of year I think end of year yeah, so I mean the big thing is that they're trying to increase now actually I'm gonna send down here Do you actually have to use your real name because I don't actually know that part no don't have to you can still use An alias, which is great Okay, so if you can still use the alias that's great But I think the big thing that they're kind of focusing on here is trying to get the organization a little better like you said Like I had the same problem I did a iPhone versus Galaxy speed test which by the way was a terrible idea But a bunch of people were you know kind of like calling me out saying hey There's different screen resolutions, and I had to continuously like reply every like hour, so like no they're not it was runoff screen It doesn't matter so that's probably one of the biggest things But what do you think about the Google Plus integration because I know you've been having a lot of issues with Google Plus trying to you Know get it all worked out and connected and all that kind of stuff I find Google Plus extremely difficult to use and part of the reason is that I have Multiple YouTube channels which is something that you don't really deal with and I have of course not only all the gmail accounts that go With all those YouTube accounts because of that horrible one-to-one relationship that they forced us to maintain for all that time But also just because I have you know personal gmail this and legacy and work gmail that and just Random legacy gmail accounts so for me what I the difficulty I had with this I found it kind of confusing I find the functionality just isn't as simple as things. I'm used to I mean I'm a little bit old-school like what's your ICQ number ASL? You know? That that kind of old-school junk right so to me when I was searching for Austin Evans Trying to add you to Google Plus to a circle and every Austin Evans under the Sun except you comes up And then I have to like go and like go into gmail and then like add you by email there and invite you I'm just kind of sitting here going you got it. I mean you got to be kidding me It's not that elegant yet, and that's frustrating And I haven't really invested the time into figuring it out because I was just kind of playing that waiting game where it's like maybe I can just put this off, and I won't have to do it and And maybe maybe Google will just fix YouTube at some point But you can see that this has been in the works for a long time Based on things like the fact that they're giving us that they've never fixed the inbox which is a terrible piece of garbage They've they've taken away functionality like being able to see our full list of subscribers. I mean that was years ago But now we have that that new tab within YouTube which is the actually I'm just going to load this up on my screen and do a quick screen share here So so people who haven't seen it can see it, but there we go. We've got it We've got a couple of new windows here, so there's community where you can see top fans There's a bunch of videos that aren't uploaded yet, which doesn't really matter don't worry. There's a creation tool So they're really finally starting to upgrade it as part of this whole Integration thing so I guess I better just suck it up or what some interesting stuff that I noticed too is You were talking about how you didn't like that the uploaders comments weren't featured. Yeah They're gonna be putting prioritization on uploader comments and uploaders friends comments, so I believe you can make a circle of people So if you made a circle for like Linus media group right comments your comments Ed Zolls comments Brandon's comments would all be prioritized and then you also have Additional moderator tools so you can filter out certain keywords and there are also nice which will be which will be fantastic Automated moderation will be great and then the the other the other thing is the ability to oh crap I was going somewhere with this, but yeah Oh, yeah, right and finally the ability to use a single Google Plus account to manage multiple YouTube channels That's great for me because I do manage multiple Channels, but I think like the the funny thing for me is I can't figure out whether to use Google Plus as myself personally Or to have Linus tech tips become of the overarching one or have Linus media group be the I like I still got to figure Out and play around with it how I want to do it And it doesn't help that I have like a few Google Plus accounts that I sort of halfheartedly Created and I don't know what any of them are linked to so Yeah, I know I can tell you I've gotten myself set up as a page I feel like pages on Google Plus makes sense for us Because you do have those extra features like you're saying you can actually create additional YouTube accounts And then they can all be managed by a page. I don't don't quote me on this But I don't believe you can actually do that with a normal profile It has to be run through a page so there are advantages to having a page as opposed to a profile and unlike on Facebook There as far as I know aren't really any disadvantages like your content still surfaces the same way, right? It's not like the algorithm is kind of like going against you anything so as far as I know The page definitely does make sense on Google Plus But they could change that algorithm at any time which they've done a billion times in the past and so yeah So let's move into our next big topic which is the AMD Mantle API Which they showed off a new graphics card or seven or however many graphics cards they showed off while we were there They talked about you know game developer relationships and and that kind of stuff But let's talk mantle API Yes, this is a huge deal yeah, it was kind of a big surprise for me because Obviously we had heard a little bit about it, but when they actually started talking about it I was like it kind of really took me aback I think it's a good step forward because as you can talk to pretty much any game developer You know using DirectX 11 is not I mean DirectX is just it's just so It's bloated Bloated that's the perfect word So yeah, it's just it's just not the greatest way to get the maximum amount of hardware sure I mean if you want compatibility with you know a million graphics cards and everything yeah, it's gonna be great But do you want to get the maximum performance out of all those graphics cards? Well, it's just not really going to be the correct choice so mantle is definitely a step in the right direction I think so here's the I mean here's the challenge so I had this this is directly from Chris Roberts I was I wanted to discuss mantle with him because even though most of the mantle Presentation was focused on battlefield 4 You know there's gonna be other games that are gonna support it, so I want I just basically wanted him up. I was like dude Why why is it that that? Games run so crap on a PC even if it's if it's a PC optimized game And it was developed for PC first compared to what they can do on The on the on the consoles himself, and he was saying well it has to do with the number of calls Because when you have you know a 500 Oh What was it? Uh Are you talking about the API calls? No no no okay? You know what I'll be I'll be back in a moment So you know what? I can talk about yeah, so the one thing that I noticed right away was when they're talking about this it reminded me of 3fx's Glide if that's kind of a throwback Which which was interesting and people were actually happy to see it go away, so I found it kind of surprising Something like this was coming back, but I expect that AMD is gonna push this really heavily with with games that they're helping sponsor So obviously they're behind Star Citizen quite a bit So Star Citizen is probably going to be developing for mantle, and I think it's also going to be interesting when they pull things from console So if someone's developing for console, and they want to use these really low level api's with mantle you'll be able to port over Still using that low level api which is really interesting Because then if you're able to utilize it that's that's awesome But then again, there's there's there's the great part and there's there's a surprising part part of this is surprising part is It's going to be hard to get a lot of developers mainly on the PC side to utilize this without some type of sponsorship or backing because When you're developing for this you're going to also have to develop for those high level api's because not every card is going to be able to use mantle Yeah, specifically Non-invidia cards are definitely non GCN cards for that matter Although on the other side it does work with all GCN cards, so it's not just the new r7 and r9 series So that includes like you know 7000 series so a good chunk of graphics cards will be able to just you know They'll flip a switch and mantle will be able to work so that is good. I'd say It's just an interesting position that they've taken okay, so here there we go So I remember I remember what I was talking about With chris so he was saying that depending on the complexity of an object a computer's gpu Is so powerful that it's not necessarily more difficult to render something that's relatively simple or to render something that's 10 times as complicated that is not actually what's important what's important is how many how many draw calls you can actually That you can actually send to the gpu So there's a cpu bottleneck that exists because of open gl or direct x or any of those higher level apis That doesn't exist on the consoles so even though the consoles don't have the pc's capability of drawing of Of rendering these more complex objects so quickly because we can we can hit them so many times more frequently Well we can we can still draw more and we can actually make better use of that hardware And that's aside from being able to make better use of the metal And that's aside from being able to make better use of the memory itself and better And being able to better optimize for the architecture of the gpu itself So this is this is this is the big problem and that was what chris talked about a lot Was how many individual calls you can send to the gpu to get an object rendered because we're wasting that horsepower On the gpu by just rendering these these smaller objects or bigger objects doesn't matter But being limited to how many you can do how many requests you can hit it with at a time So that was that was to him the huge thing and I haven't heard any quotes in terms of performance improvements That we're capable of seeing but with optimization. I mean we could be looking at Well, you look at how well something runs on a console versus how well something runs on a pc And imagine that guys imagine if we could actually leverage that additional power And the last the last thing I want to touch on is I think the timing Is really good for this So amd came out and said during the conference that um, this is by request This isn't something that they're pushing on the game devs like uh physx for example This is something that the game devs have been coming to them and saying we want this We want to get closer to the metal when we're programming our games Especially with the position that they're in making the hardware for both consoles That's why game devs are asking for this so they can port out from both consoles in the same way Which is just and that's why the timing is excellent. Yep, because now You've got two new consoles coming. So the game the game devs are going to have to be figuring out how to optimize for this gcn architecture Anyway, so we've got that happening and because gcn's been out on pc for almost two years now There's a fairly large install base there as well, which helps to justify the additional expense of Of well adding an additional api as an option not only that but now okay Maybe now we can move over to other platforms like linux steam box awesome So yeah, so there are a couple things that kind of jumped out at me about mantle One of them is is like you were saying earlier one of the bigger advantages is that allows, you know, uh Games to take better advantage of the hardware and more specifically it's going to make it easier for games to take advantage of more cpu cores Which amazingly enough amd they kind of been shipping a lot of cpu cores lately Yeah, that's actually I kind of could be a little interesting kind of to come back because obviously the consoles are eight core The higher end fx stuff is eight core. I'm sure we'll probably be seeing eight core api's within, you know Eventually, so that's definitely one thing For mantle for me. I think a big thing is that it really is going to kind of try to bridge that gap between consoles and pcs um Obviously, we'll have to see like you said performance and all that kind of stuff But it wouldn't surprise me if mantle really isn't actually that difficult to kind of develop for because if you're already doing it for consoles Perhaps if mantle is similar to the way consoles work and that kind of seems to be the way things are It might not actually be that difficult for a developer to say. Hey, yeah, we're gonna go ahead and support mantle Um, and you know, it'll just magically make everything better and awesome and all that kind of stuff I mean the big concern I have is we're splitting developer resources so I think uh glide is a great example of why we moved away from that in the past and Are we moving towards even more fragmentation? I mean, you know a couple years from now Do we see nvidia introduce their own thing now? All of a sudden do game developers have to support open gl direct 3d mantle and Some kind of theoretical nvidia one and do we see? um And that's where it gets messy, but then they have the the the nice Very so solid advantage of having those consoles is the solution to just abandon direct 3d at that point That's like the nuclear option, I don't know It's gonna be saying the nuclear that that's the scary one I mean, um, you know from from an end user's perspective if it's well implemented Mantle is going to be as simple as like in valve games where you can just drop down Direct 3d open gl and choose your renderer Um mantles mantle is going to be that that simple But from a developer perspective i'll be i'll be really interested to see how this works out and if we see weird Compatibility glitches and all of a sudden it becomes yet another bloody thing for end users to diagnose So i'm using the wrong renderer for this game As long as they don't make it the default it shouldn't be that big of a deal Well, I think they probably will as far as uh because uh Because uh, it'll be coming out on some games. I would imagine that they're not just going to ship it and say oh by the way There's this magical thing that makes your game run a million times faster, but we're not actually going to activate it. So Yeah, we'll have to see I mean You know what's funny is we're going to have an ea moment on the show if uh, if battlefield 4 doesn't automatically run on mantle Once it's once it's available Uh, so I would imagine it would be so they that's kind of a big deal for them So they showed off a slide that uh that actually did say specifically that mantle will allow battlefield 4 to utilize eight threads Which is extremely exciting and also that it's only the beginning. I mean FPS is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to games that ea intends For develop other developers to to run using frostbite So I mean by the time it's not even a matter of amd winning in terms of getting it implemented game by game But if they can win a couple big engines, then this will be a thing and it's extremely exciting Definitely. Yeah, because not only does that have implications for making performance better on amd based pcs But also hey, you know what you're going to be building for you know frostbite or whatever particular engine Okay, so I'm going to check a box. Oh, it's going around on consoles. It's going around on pc Obviously, it's not quite that simple But it all kind of it snowballs it kind of helps one thing helps the other thing helps the other thing It just kind of improves performance and improves compatibility across the board. So this was mine and your first time at an amd event What was what were your thoughts? What was your takeaway? Well, first of all, they had in way, which I think was a pretty awesome place I actually had never been before so it was a is a really really nice place that they had it As far as the like the information, I thought it was really interesting. They were very you know Technical and detailed and kind of explained a lot. I think we both had a chance to actually go one-on-one with some People from amd and kind of answer some of our deep questions about you know The particulars and all that kind of stuff once they actually the cards come out, but I was really impressed I thought that they had they first of all, it was a well organized event There was plenty for us to see and do and kind of learn about all the new stuff I like that demo room. I think they may have seen it in the vlog Did you show that off all like the 4k monitors and 4k ifinity? Which was just like What is that like 12 000 does like 12k pixels that would yeah that would be effectively 12 times hd Mind-blown running off of two 290 x's and they were I mean that it was during three but You know the funny thing was looking at it. You could they're playing dirt on it You can see like the textures where like dirt was clearly nowhere near made for 4k But because the screens and because of the resolution was so like astronomically high Like like you can look at the text compared to like the actual textures and there was a huge difference Which obviously I don't think a lot of developers are really you know designing for 12k Yeah, they're not too rude, but uh, it was it was a really cool thing to see just that many pixels What is actually that's what like? 24 25 megapixels being rendered on the fly. Yeah, it's just ridonkulous Um, just just ridonkulous. I mean uh when we talk about, you know a camera being able to process an image like that You know, we're talking like, you know, it processes the image and then you know, give it a sec. Yeah Yeah, um, oh yeah, so they had a few other demos. Let's talk about real sound a little bit because I know Okay guys for all of you tuned in don't touch that dial. We're not going to talk about it for half an hour Okay So real sound just as a quick briefer is basically a programmable It's it's the equivalent to what a programmable shader was on the visual side So it's programmable sound built into the gpu so that game devs Can look at the resources that they have available to them and know that they're going to be able to program in more advanced audio effects Now they had a demo that they were running in that demo room Which is what reminded me of real sound because otherwise it really wasn't on the top of my mind Because it's only going to be supported on a couple of the upcoming gpus even so real sound is basically a way of turning sound into more of a physics thing as opposed to Um running around, you know the office, you know Banging on things to create sound effects and then just having a library of sounds That it that it draws upon in a given sort of scenario So like in games where the swords clash for example It's going to sound like clash one two or three or heavy clash one or two kind of thing So austin you heard the thief demo Tell me what you think of this new way of implementing particularly reverberations in the sound Yeah, see that's exactly a true audio is yeah Typically in the game it just plays like a you know Like a quick like mp3 or whatever and it's very simple And there are ways of making the sound kind of seem more realistic like with like reverberations and whatnot when you're in you know Maybe like a church or whatever or eax used to eax used to be the the thing that was pushing that forward But that just died in a fire when vista got launched Yeah So but one of the main drawbacks is that that kind of takes more of cpu more of a hit on the cpu And then a lot of times like ah we want to hurt the performance of the game just so it sounds a little bit better But this seems a little bit a little bit more of a smarter implementation So with the thief demo that we both listened to I could tell a big difference. Um, it was it was much more like when it was off It sounded like uh, like you said like everyone just like talking to the microphone. Yeah, very flat But when they turned it on you could kind of hear like the audio kind of like echoing a little bit around the room Hear the footsteps. I mean, I don't think it was this massive quantum leap and just like blew my mind But compared with it on and off I could tell a major difference and especially with a game like thief Which is kind of like, you know sneaking around and very sound oriented. Yeah, absolutely very sound oriented you know, I think another good game or a lot of games that could really uh, You know benefit from this would be like first person shooters because you know, obviously You're trying to listen for footsteps and whatnot and if you could kind of hear them a little bit more detail kind of Maybe figure out where they are in 3d space just a little bit better I mean obviously you're when you're dealing with headphones. You're not you know, you don't have a 20 speaker set up to you know Precisely pinpoint everything. Yeah, I think it's a step in the right direction I don't know if it was worth, you know, the 45 minutes they spent doing demos on it. I mean, it's cool, but uh, yeah Yeah, okay. I mean I agree with you 100% better immersiveness and anything that takes load off the cpu and enhances your gameplay experience especially with mantle which is going to allow the game to take better advantage of the power of your gpu and Take better advantage of your cpu by utilizing more cores. Well, why don't we just not waste any of that processing power on sound anymore then? Why don't we just have it dealt with by the graphics card? So the last advantage of real sound in addition to allowing reverberations, which is a lot of calculations like more like physics sound The other advantage is that in terms of directionality it should be able to be much more accurate than something that's relying on Something other than the game engine itself to give it directional cues So the fact that the processing is going on at a much earlier stage in the pipeline is going to mean that cheesy things That i've never liked. I mean you guys must know this like usb surround sound dongles and surround headphones guys If you're a long time viewers, i'm not real enthusiastic About them. I mean austin do you feel the same way or oh, yeah, definitely So this sounds like a much better way to do that So we have a little thing that we do called twitter blitz and i'd love for you to participate So i'm going to read out twitter questions that are actually intended for you and i'd love you to uh Uh to hit the audience with the answers as fast as you possibly can that's the whole objective All right, let's do it. Will blackberry be just a company that we used to know or will they make a comeback? They will probably fade out I don't think they'll totally go out of business because they still do have a pretty strong hold on the enterprise And it sounds like they're going to be bought but as far as you know people like us being able to buy them Yeah, I think that's about done. What do you think of the note three? I haven't been able to really try it yet. Well, you were hands-on you were hands-on. I was there i saw you touch it Somewhat although that did actually didn't happen. So shh Uh, I think the note three is it was hilariously big compared to the iphone because i've been using the 5s the last couple days Um, yeah, I mean i'm excited. I missed the giant battery and the giant screen of the note two. So uh, all right Looking forward to getting myself a note three. Someone's building a system. What cpu and graphics card for gaming? What that's like, um, what what kind of money are they spending? I don't know exactly that's the correct answer Uh, here we go Someone's asking about unreleased stuff. What do you think of flexible displays for phones and tablets? I think it'll be cool, but not in the way a lot of people think you're not going to have a phone You just bend it what it's going to be more like is that instead of having the display being square Imagine that the side of the phone it kind of like tapers down and the screen follows the taper so uh There's actually a shot I think of a ces a couple years ago where samsung showed this off where it's a normal screen from the front But when you look at it from the side the screen just keeps on going all the way and wraps over the edge I think that's where the flexible display is going to kind of come more handy We're not just gonna you know your screen your your phone is just not going to be like a Piece of plastic or something unless you have a galaxy s4 Okay, you win never mind Uh youtube have also discontinued video responses. How do you feel about that? I'm gonna jump in I'm gonna say I don't care. Go ahead. I'm right there with you I mean, didn't they say something about like how the video responses were like clicked on like one in every two million videos It's something like stupid numbering. Yeah, okay thoughts on youtube adding a music video Library for their content creators. It's good because i'm tired of hearing the same iMovie music in every single video on youtube Uh, but i'm sure i'll get tired of this music. I was just gonna say we're just gonna do it in the right direction. I'm glad that Does your camera still work this is from the vlog when your camera got soaked Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, it's weather sealed. It was all good We were just running out to the rank the to wiser So we were just running out to the rank and we were just running out to the rank and we were just running out to the rank It was all good. Um, we were just running out to the rank the to waaii and it rains like every 10 minutes Yeah, it's all good. Here's a great question Scott horton asks do you think mantle will help with emulating the next-gen consoles because That's been a thing where you had to have a pc that was 10 times more powerful than a playstation 1 In order to emulate ps1 hardware. Do you think mantle will make a big difference to that? Ooh, that's tough. I mean, oh, that's a good question theoretically. Okay, so theoretically you can kind of take a look back at like the original xbox which was similarly based to normal pc hardware Just because it's based on the same hardware doesn't necessarily mean that it will be able to be emulated as far as I know I mean, I don't think it would be a bad thing. But if it's based on the same hardware and the same api And what it potentially runs on the same graphics architecture It's not it's not really emulation. Yeah, they're both x86. Yeah, so yeah Yeah, I doubt that you'll be able to just like load a game up The software is still gonna I strongly believe is going to be very much locked down the operating system as far as like how you'd be able to You know, you know get the xbox one operating system ps4 I don't think it's a bad thing But I don't think it's just gonna be open season to just throw ps4 and xbox one games on your system main time soon valid response, sir Favorite retro and non retro game go Oh, okay retro. Um Can I say grinch frismo? Is that does that count as retro? Oh, come on. You're so young dude. How old are you? Dude, yeah, that's like retro for me. I played that was like four or five I mean Non-retro game. Um, actually I'd probably have to say metro last light as far as like games. I played recently Okay, I really really enjoyed that All right Last one and this is from some jackass that uh, I hate that guy He says you're not gonna tell anyone what happened in hawaii, right? We made a pact and this is from paul hardware on twitter Yeah, no, uh, no comment on that Uh, it was an nda sign that evening that uh, not supposed to talk about this. So no, it's didn't happen paul. Uh, i'm sorry, but Please don't talk about this anymore It was yeah, just now. Yeah, it was it was super homo. So, um, basically, yeah Like full homo. Okay, so um, let's talk about it. Did you sign the pact or did you just like ghost pay? I signed the pact man. I signed that we all signed the pact and the fact that paul's even talking about it Why like he's opening himself up to like some serious legal ramifications Because part of the pact was to not talk you don't talk about fight club rules First two rules of the pack inherently teach you to break rules I don't care Well, no, no, you don't know you don't know i'm just saying you don't know how homo it was Let me put it this way it's almost as homo is when we spend time together Wow That's pretty intense. Yeah, it's intense homo. Holy cow. So, uh, so anyway enough talking about homo austin If you want to please please plug your stuff because if a few people don't okay that that was Did I violate the pact? I think it did. Okay Dude talk up your youtube talk up your twitter I want our live viewers to know how awesome you are go subscribe to you and get that done the greatest segue ever Thank you. Um So if you want stuff that has videos that have absolutely nothing to do with what we just talked about And to text up you guys can uh check me out on youtube youtube.com Austin evans, uh, I swear this Just forget about this last video. Okay, nothing to do. There are no videos of that anywhere here on youtube So don't don't think the look but if you want to check my channel out for maybe Other stuff that doesn't include paul and linus. Uh, you can do that. So youtube.com slash austin edit All right, cool. And guys just another reminder is austin and I are doing a collaborative iphone 5c giveaway So make sure that you're subscribed to both of us so you'll have a chance to win one of two iPhone 5c phones. We are giving away two phones. All right. Thank you austin. You've been a fantastic guest There's still a week left on that too. So yes time to get in on it lots of time So thank you very much and we'd love to have you on the show again And it was it was a real pleasure meeting you in person for the first time then Right on man. Hey, thanks for having me and I will catch you later. All right. Take care. See ya All right, so let's switch back to our to our no guest and actually you know what? 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I mean our audio mixers like yeah, it's big now We're still learning how to use it, which is why you hear that hiss right now But having sponsors is really going to help us continue to develop not only this show but more shows I haven't really talked about this much yet, but we are going to The masses have spoken you guys want the wens show you want a long format show We're going to keep doing that, but we're also going to be adding some more targeted focused shorter Shows throughout the week, and I haven't talked to you about this yet, but I think they're going to end up on tech quickie Okay, I think that'll make sense so tech quickie will be mostly fast as possible And then either daily or three times a week or whatever we decide on updates for certain little news items that we keep very short So for instance we could have covered all the individual steam updates Yes, which would have actually been really nice and much more timely and giving you guys like you know a reason to get your news From us as opposed to a reason to just hear us sort of wax philosophical about what it all means Yeah, speaking of waxing philosophical about what it all means let's get into the steam announcement So number one that segue right no You've got some pretty epic segues. Thank you steam OS Boom big head explosion, so go this one was kind of insane like I actually was not expecting this one at all The other two I guessed both of them, but this one was kind of out of left field Okay, we kind of saw steam OS coming because we were expecting steam box You have some kind of steam me customized OS I just expected it to be a like custom version of Ubuntu not its own thing And I expected it to be somewhat closed yeah I expected the steam box to be a steam box, and you didn't build your own steam box Maybe they partnered with others to build steam boxes But like I thought it was gonna be pretty pretty hardcore locked down, but that got completely obliterated Oh, no You can download the raw source code for this if you want and change it in any way you want they do not care Which is amazing they even said that there's actually I'm not gonna jump to that quite yet But like there's a ton of cool stuff So it's on Linux And I know a ton of you in the audience that haven't read up on this right now are going oh So I can't play like any of my games because they're wrong That's totally wrong because if you have your desktop PC, which I'm assuming most you already have you can stream shield style your Windows games over to your steam box that is running on the TV, which is like Amazing so we could I mean okay. Why do people like me say look I'm not interested in Linux Because it's too complicated, and it can't play the games. It's not that complicated. I have It's too complicated for some people okay, but the fact that it doesn't you can't game on it. Yeah, it's just the stupidest thing ever from From my perspective is like look I want the machine that is the all-rounder Yeah, that does everything reasonably well, and that's Windows right now The fact that you can stream games I mean look at look at it this way Nvidia has invested heavily in this game streaming technology Which is interesting from a cloud gaming perspective, but we're years and years away from that being feasible But from a local streaming perspective is actually much more relevant to me and Nvidia has shown already That they can do this over wireless There is no reason I would want to run my steam box wirelessly if I wire up my house with like 10 gigabit Which is gonna come eventually to consumer grade prices Yeah, all of a sudden holy crap my windows box lives in a closet My windows home server is now my windows home server and every other machine in the house could be running Linux And I could game to my heart's content I was even gonna say this would be really interesting because if you had say you're a dad and you still want to have your Your beast computer because you're gonna do other stuff like video editing or whatever, but then you've got your kids They're just gonna game you could have like a central Beast computer instead of building beast computers for each one of your kids and then just give them steam boxes Which is just amazing. I mean this is remember when Nvidia first announced grid. This is exactly what I was talking about personal cloud Compute and that's awesome as opposed to personal cloud storage Which is fascinating and all that and a WD has a new product coming that we're gonna check out that apparently makes it much simpler But personal cloud compute is just bomb so excited about this And I mean, you know what kudos to valve for taking us in this direction This is such a big deal because when they talked about supporting Linux in the longer term I went yeah, that's fascinating We can run portal on Linux or whatever this big performance hit but now all of a sudden Whoa, boom mantle hits us this week porting to different OS's We're not gonna rely on necessarily on direct 3d or open GL anymore Boom and then the fact that now we're gonna be able to run our games using streaming from a separate computer on Linux So beast oh, there's a couple other announcements even aside all of that insane awesomeness that you grab right away stuff like My little local club backdoor thing. Yes, not gonna work. Okay, right, right with the game sharing Yeah But you could put so even though you couldn't you couldn't like play against each other What you could do is you could have a steam box in the living room and you could share your library with a separate account Because steam still won't support multiple logins of the same person different locations and that's what a great solution that is, right? Yeah, so so I will have two accounts now I will have my account that I don't really buy anything on which is my steam box account and I'll have my main desktop account And I'll just share everything with that account and that's totally fine. I just can't play games concurrently So you I can take turns so if I had a buddy over and he wanted to play on my steam box computer We couldn't play the same game, but as long as we take turns playing different games, it's totally fine I'm the same time. Oh man, that's great I wouldn't I'd be interested to see if they had the capability to add multiple licenses of a game to a single steam account That would be really interesting. That's actually not a bad idea from valve is watching I'd actually like to see that that ties in really well with their family options Yes, so they have a family options thing where you can hide certain games from other people based on the SRB ratings or Preference so hotline Miami, which is a crazy good game But I would never let anyone under the recommended age play because it's nuts Like this is this is like GTA style where you don't want little kids playing this game Awesome game dad might own it doesn't want to share it with his kid. He can now hide it That's brilliant. But yeah that could tie in with the multiple licenses thing. Yeah, that would be really cool. Yeah Okay, so steam announcement number two. I guess we kind of talked about it a fair bit. So steam machines It's not kind of tied into the first one in a big way to be kind of blunt It's not super interesting because we all knew this was coming. Yeah, we all knew this was gonna be one of these OMG Valves gonna have a console. Okay. Yes got it. Yeah, I was gonna have a console Okay, fine for interesting things to bring up. They're gonna be shipping 300 prototypes of it this year So sometimes within 2020 maybe But they'll be shipping 300 prototypes to people that have completed the quest The quest is basically stuff that you've probably already done plus play a big picture game with a controller Yeah There's gonna be 30 of these prototypes that are given to people that are big contributors to the community probably people that have made things that go up on the market, but then 270 of them will be completely randomly selected out of people that have completed that quest. So if you check out Store dot steam power comm slash living room slash steam machines. You can see everything you have to complete for that quest, which is interesting And the non prototype versions are supposed to be available sometime in 2014. So I'm expecting somewhere around 2030 That's I'm wondering how valve time is gonna play into all this actually because they're they're putting out Fairly solid release date. I mean to me steam machines basically sounds like Windows machines like it's basically just another way of saying it's a computer that will have hardware in it That's gonna run the steam OS and and I think that particularly when you look like a community you look at a community like steam We're gonna see a lot of DIY a lot of DIY steam machines as opposed to like it's gonna I think it's gonna be a lot like the hackintosh community where you know people don't buy a hackintosh What they do is they they head over to Tony Mac x86 or whatever that site is That's awesome. By the way, if you ever want to build a hackintosh, just go there It's like done for you by the hardware build it themselves And it's a very rewarding experience and you're gonna get better performance for your dollar and all those great things that go along with that That is where things are gonna get actually said So there's gonna be a valve version and the valve version is gonna be highly customizable and you can build your own and that will Obviously be highly customizable, but then the ones built by other people will be focused around different metrics. So size price thermal output Sound stuff like that with a free OS. We're gonna have a lot of flexibility and for particularly for DIY guys We're gonna see a bigger price disparity between DIY and off-the-shelf because with Windows the big manufacturers like Acer or Lenovo Are getting massive discounts on the software. Whereas when you build one yourself, you're paying full retail So even though you're able to build your PC for slightly cheaper You paid that inflated margin to Microsoft for a standalone OS. Whereas now when both OS's are free Now that decreases our price even more by a much larger margin So I'm really excited about DIY. It's a really good point. Yeah steam machines or whatever they want to call them I'm so excited because I've wanted to build a small four-factor computer for a while, but never had that big of a reason steam announcement three The steam controller so I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna fire this up for you guys Because you're gonna need to see it to believe it for this one Yeah a new way to play your entire steam library from the sofa So there's a dog and a cat their cardboard cutouts boom there it is. I Legitimately thought this was the back Especially actually because of how where your hand goes kind of works And how it looks but um, yeah, I'm gonna keep letting that sink in So my first conclusion and I find it funny because if you scroll up to where it shows the home theater Oh, okay here. Sorry. I'm not on my screen anymore. Yeah, go ahead Go ahead. They have Civ 5 on screen, which I thought was hilarious because before I noticed that I was like the only game I really think it's like you can use this controller place in five Then I had some five on the screen. I was like, oh Someone thought of that Okay, so let me let's why don't we start with some of the specs because that's really important It's got 16 total buttons. So the track pads themselves are buttons the touchscreen in the middle has four buttons at the corners There's a few look more like navigational buttons under the screen itself actually here I'm gonna I'm gonna fire that up again for you guys so you can see what I'm talking about and The the real the real killer app here is these touchpads so there's the touchscreen here and then the touch pads here and Here that have what valve is calling the most The most advanced haptic feedback that we've yet seen in a consumer device So to be clear haptic feedback if you ever used like a Samsung Galaxy tab 10.1 the original one where it just kind of like felt like a big piece of poo every time you touched it and it kind of went Like when you touched it and it felt like it was falling apart valves going for Not that They're going for something that actually will give you Tactile feedback about not just where your fingers are on the pad and you know, the curvature will help with that as well but also things like acceleration boundaries threshold speed textures action confirmations or any other events They're saying these are so advanced that they're basically speakers and as a little trick You could actually have them play music or make sound effects if you really wanted to Now what I noticed immediately because this was the one that actually out of all the steam announcements This was the one where I not only read the the valve page But you read the and another article but I went and found like a dozen articles Because I was like what are people saying about this? I read hundreds of user comments I actually spent a lot of time this morning looking at this and here's what I found user comments People are either saying it's bullshit. It's the stupidest thing I've ever seen or they're saying Hold on give this a chance. It's valve They haven't done wrong by us too many times in the past and then there's like the one guy in a hundred who's stoked On it and then professional writers Basically all opted to say nothing. Yeah, I couldn't find anyone who gave an opinion on it and I didn't read every article But they were all just like here's valves press release And they just said nothing which to me is is a big indicator that they're real Skeptical about this, but they don't want to be the guy that said it was balls and then it turns out to be amazing I'm gonna actually bounce back. I made the comment about Civ 5 earlier But after typing that in and I have I have it here being like you're only really gonna be able to place it five But after typing that in depending on how good the touchpads are I'm actually was playing GTA 5 last night and I noticed the only way I can aim at people is by pulling the left trigger Repeatedly, which will make him automatically point at people. Yes without that. I'm like I'm wondering can I actually be more accurate with a touchpad? That's super super good versus I mean for me a big problem with joysticks Is that every every game under the Sun seems to have the calibration a little bit differently and yet and and the and the response Of them compared to something like force feedback actually isn't that great? No, so if this Between the curvature and the haptic feedback like if it gets more intense towards the outer edges for a racing game if we're talking Almost like fake force feedback And looking at the style of these touchpads actually one thing I was thinking about is if one of them was a wheel in a racing Game you could spin it as if it was a wheel. So there's there's actually I don't see that being practical But you probably could and like it's it's just and how moddable they are. They're incredibly Modable. Yeah, they're coming out and saying they want it to be hackable. Oh, yeah right up front Yeah, so so with it being valve with it being this moddable Yeah, because the mod community is gonna go crazy and make this thing nuts it Maybe they can pull it off. Does it replace a keyboard and mouse? Oh, of course not, but they don't say it but you can plug that into your steam box and use a couch master Anyway, does it replace a keyboard? No, of course not, but you could still have something like a little wireless keyboard Where is ours? I think it's like lost you could have a little wireless keyboard with a little trackball on it Anyway to me I see this not even necessarily as a replacement for something like an Xbox 360 controller Which is like the finest controller ever made other than the d-pad is kind of a pile of poo It's not a replacement it's more like here's another way and it will open the doors one thing compatibility tool Yeah, I don't think they wanted to make another like dual Dual thumbstick with the d-pad and four buttons and two thingies like they didn't want to recreate Something that everyone has made under the Sun But with that said before I'd seen any pictures and before I'd read any articles the first word out of my mouth was Retarded when I heard about it and I kind of went well are they being different for the sake of being different and then I kind of let myself sort of calm down and honestly, I haven't even read any of the extra articles on it This is all just stuff. I noticed while looking through theirs Okay, but it's it's it's gonna enable like I would never play Civ 5 with the default Yeah, but I would play Civ 5 with this. I wouldn't want to play a lot of simulation It's kind of like when Warcraft 2 came out on PlayStation. It's where it's like ridiculous. Whereas this might bridge the gap Yeah, and then a lot of simulation games like especially freaking surgeon simulator like that makes so much more sense Right then with like it's it's it's interesting So I think it's gonna open a lot of doors to other things and then stuff like shooters with the right modding community behind it Maybe you can be way more accurate because I have a serious problem with Right now. Yeah, so maybe it will help and maybe it'll help bridge the gap between PC gamers into the living room a little bit more because the second I touch a controller I'm like, what is this? I don't know what I'm doing. All right, someone someone someone's hitting me pretty hard in the twitch chat there Linus What is what does he say something like stop avoiding the question? Do you think it will be good and I'm gonna say Based on the one Person I found on Twitter who has tried an early version of it. So Lord Chris Remo on Twitter Who says I tried it the button configuration was different at the time, but the cursor pads worked amazingly Well, I don't know who this guy is Never talked to him. No idea why he has you know 13,000 followers on Twitter or whatever else But he says yes the haptic feedback makes it feel like you're actually operating a real Physically mechanical device not just a touchscreen Wow If I found someone who tried an early sample and is saying that about it if I inherently trust valve which I kind of do Yeah You know what here I'll go ahead and say I'll say there's gonna be a learning curve because I think we can all agree on that But it's going to be usable. It's it's it's like I don't even think you can debate if it'll be usable or not No, I would have questioned it at the beginning for Civ 5 and other simulation games so obviously be better than in my opinion than a Controller with thumbsticks, but I think it'll be depending on how good those touchpads are And if you take his word for all the merit it could be taken for It could be great, but I just the touchpad touchpad scare me I'm a big advocate of overuse of touchpads are ridiculous because when you go to the store And you have to use the debit machine And you only have to select what account you want to use with the freaking touchpad It's like why do I have to why do I have to do this it's like unnecessary touch sucks But if they've done it well then great so I want to move on to this is actually one of our one We're running out of time here, but I feel like this is probably going to be our last big topic this week BitTorrent Has a legit reason for existing that goes beyond like Linux distros Which is obviously the joke that pirates make is why do you have you torn on your computer her because I download Linux distros The art is the cash so this is this is an article on venture beat the art is the cash register bit torrent releases Bundles in alpha so you guys should definitely check out the full article, but I'm just going to go back to my notes here really quick So what bundles will do is they will bundle content and a payment system now We're not talking payment system like cash money necessarily. We're talking about some kind of content It could be we're talking some kind of content whether it's music or movies or like I mean honestly I saw this and I've been thinking about doing like a vlog series or like behind-the-scenes series Hiring like a dedicated guy to just do that around here for a while, but I don't necessarily Want that everywhere, and I don't want and I've promised my viewers that we are not going to move to a pay model So I've done those things So oh okay hold on so bundles could contain some kind of content that you pay for but not necessarily with cash So here are some suggestions Maybe you pay for it with a like a tweet an email address or newsletter sign up of Holy crap, that's amazing Maybe you pay for it by seeding although I don't know how I don't know how that could be enforced, but but all of a sudden there's a flexibility to the payment That comes along with content. It's been being said for years that the problem is not Yes, go The problem is the district steam has said this a lot Because people have been seeing Piracy rates go down as their games go on steam instead of being their own launcher like if you have to download the executable Install itself your piracy rates are gonna be higher than if it's on steam because people see it on steam And they're like oh, that's easy. It's gonna work all the time I don't have to deal with all these problems But then it's also not DRM down my throat and absolutely ridiculous the whole time Yeah, I'll just buy it on there's still DRM on steam, but it's much easier to deal with so I'll just get it on steam So I gave new has been saying distributions a problem forever Everyone knows that the main reason things are pirated is because they're so freakin hard to get so like It's it's well a large part of the reason that things are part of the reason a reason let's say a reason I'm still saying we can okay well I will say a reason because I don't necessarily agree well as music has become easier to get piracy rates have massively gone down That's true, so it's a large, but piracy still exists. Yeah, so let's say a reason I'm still saying until until piracy is gone. We can't empirically determine. I'm not saying the reason I'm saying a large part of how do we know? We can't we can't the percentage is going down by so much Okay, until we know how much piracy there actually is exactly we won't know you can pretty you can guess But you won't know for sure you can get pretty freaking close. We disagree Anyway Yeah, it'll help yes, okay Artists are gonna love this because instead of their music bit like if they kind of go okay people are gonna download things off Off of torrents anyway, and if they happen to take that philosophy and go okay Well, then what I'll do is I'll include in order to I'll just I'll just see it out there myself And as long as you follow me on Twitter, then I'm down then I'm down go ahead have to have to have the song then Especially musicians lately are releasing their albums for free anyways because they find no point because not enough people are buying them Especially when they're smaller musicians So if you if you released a new version of it every once in a while that requires people to tweet about your upcoming concert or to Link on your Facebook to their merchandise store Holy crap that helps that's the future. Yeah, I mean that's amazing so Madonna Lincoln Park grateful dead drummer Mickey Hart already using it Tim Ferriss says it drove an additional eight hundred and eighty thousand Amazon impressions for his book in his experience There is no faster method for getting multimedia content to the fans This is is just totally game-changing and I think goes a long way towards legitimizing bit torrent Yeah, that's because for the longest time bit torrents been like we're not actually bad really We're not just for pirating, but we can't tell you what else we're for We're a tool just people there's like four dudes that released their albums on it Like you could probably also find them on like the YouTube Billion other places So this is this is amazing It's really good for them I think this week rather than trying to go really in depth into some of the other content that we have I think we call that it for our major topics. I wanted I want to blips through a couple here I mean Blackberry has a potential suitor. I think it what was it nine billion or something like that So I know lose per share. I think it's forty seven billion. Sorry nine dollars per share and So I was talking to Sam Reynolds from VR zone while I was at the AMD event and he was saying One of the reasons he thinks it could Potentially happen in time is that it is a Canadian interest that's looking at them and that actually could save months of of investigation and analysis and all that like if they want the if they want foreign investors to come in and own the company which Is traditionally a Canadian company? I mean that and that I think would make a lot of people feel a lot better about it as well So that was that was one of the big things this week obviously This is pretty funny a fake Apple ad says iOS 7 will make your iPhone waterproof and people fell for it So the update claimed that iOS 7 Will in an emergency shut off your phone's power supply and corresponding components to prevent any damage to your iPhone's delicate circuitry So apparently people express their outrage on Twitter one angry tweeter said okay, whoever said iOS 7 is waterproof go F yourself So that's that's pretty hilarious and I quite frankly. I hope no one watching did that because dude or Dad or whoever you are yet yet it coming for you Yeah Next up is a SUS ROG bench. I mean honestly we don't have enough benchmarking tools We really don't particularly for certain aspects of the system like storage There's a few but they're highly synthetic and or they're expensive speaking of which did we get that figured out with future mark Did you hear back from them? Yeah? Yeah, are we are we doing it? Yeah? We're good Okay, we are we are gonna be testing using the upcoming the upcoming future mark. What is it called future mark eight? So we're gonna be using that for our storage testing. I'm extremely excited about their new suite It looks much more comprehensive than their previous ones, but right now it wasn't available unless you get the uber license So we've worked out a deal with them to get the uber license So we're gonna be bringing you some of that over the next little bit here, but anyway, this is unrelated to future mark This is the ROG real bench and a SUSE has an FAQ. That's on ROG.asus.com If you just search for ROG real bench free app download You'll be able to bring that up or you can check out the the stream doc Which I'll post in the Linus rambling section of the Linus tech tips forum But they've got an FAQ here that I think really covered all my questions the first or the second question is it's ROG real bench So there must be a SUSE favoritism, right? And they're like no open source apps. No way SUSE BIOS or BIOS at all I like that. It's open source. I love it. I love it I mean this this is one of the things that that I really feel like companies can do to differentiate their product That has nothing to do with the product things like even AI charge. Have you ever used AI charge from a SUSE? Yes, works on any computer and allows any USB port to charge a tablet. It's like oh wow Thank you a SUSE now I now I think of you I install your app on my computer regardless of what kind of computer it is That is that is marketing that is like awesome marketing Then the first name that will come to mind when you go to buy something is gonna be that so if every if every overclocker Starts using ROG real bench like that gets that branding out there. I mean another example Our sponsor Razor Razor comms make it for everyone don't require people to buy a bright green headset You know not everyone wants a bright green headset. We get that we saw your we saw your comments on Twitter We saw your comments in the twitch chat. Does Razor have a not bright green headset? Yeah, they do But you know this one happens to be bright green But but getting getting that branding out there is huge to me and there's only a few benchmarks right now But they're committed to continuing and and they're taking user submissions for benchmarks So I know I'm gonna submit a few that I already think are good ideas that they could add and if you guys have some Open-source benchmarks that you guys would think would be a good idea submit it and they'll and they're keeping it real and up-to-date It's x64 only because they're like yeah Well, we just think that you need to get with the times if you're running x86 and I'm more than okay with love it I mean, that's like AMD's 290x and no analog output VGA is gone, and I'm not talking the connector is gone. The pins are gone. It's gone I'm like good because that needs to that needs to go away. It's done. It's done by VGA So I'm really excited about that We'll definitely bring you guys a video in the next little bit once we've had a chance to try it out twitch TV No longer automatically archives broadcasts. I Actually, yeah, yeah that happened last week to us I actually spent some time talking to their COO at PAX and I have a little bit of insight as to why they're doing that so YouTube Has you know X number of hours of video uploaded every minute or whatever it works out to but they transcode it Which even though it's processing intensive dramatically reduces the storage requirements on their side twitch just goes here We go full balls to the walls 1080p game stream that ran for 14 hours or how right? Their storage needs we're just becoming ridiculous That's what we go in for 12 hours their storage needs We're getting ridiculous as they've continued to explode and you I mean they got to invest in network infrastructure They got to invest in processing. They got to invest in security and blah blah. It's like look We bought enough hard drives already. Everyone just calm down So I totally understand why they're doing that and I didn't tell me at the time that they were planning to implement this But what he what he did say is our storage needs are getting ridiculous. We have to do something Yeah, and you can still enable them. They're just not enabled by default, which I think is a really good compromise. Yeah Nvidia has come out and said You know, we're we're we really want to support Linux. They've sent out some tweets. We're all about gaming We feel gaming is so important and Linus Torvalds is actually responded So Nvidia kind of said look a thousand watt PC will not lose to a 200 watt Xbox even though most PCs aren't running at a thousand watts and they they say they want to support Linux in the wake of Steam and Hopefully they'll be able to leverage mantle or some kind of mantle like technology. It's been it's it's apparently been confirmed that mantle is open I wasn't so that's my comments are in the document earlier And when I was talking I got kind of corrected by YouTube, but I had no idea it was open I thought it was just AMD. I thought it was Andy didn't say it was open during the presentation. Yeah, that's I watched the presentation That's like Apparently been confirmed now. So I really that's really cool. I doubt Nvidia Would be willing to do let's see. Let's see if Nvidia they can a lot of AMD stuffs open open Yeah, I know but it's not like Nvidia. No, I know this is on open CL. I know I'm just saying like I'm not surprised that It is that way. I just I was watching the presentation. I didn't say it So Linus Torvalds has responded to this commitment saying You know famously Linus Torvalds gave the bird to Nvidia and Said Nvidia then I don't have live like bleeping out of stuff But you know F you F you Nvidia blah blah blah You don't support us properly and Nvidia's come out and said look we're gonna do an open driver Well, they've been it's been publicly known that Nvidia has been the hardest Hardware manufacturer for Linux to work with at all So he's basically said look I'm not willing to issue an apology for that yet But let's wait and see let's give him a chance and my battery just died. So Builds of the week, I guess let's let's move on. Do we have any other topics that are I feel like that's not that important I just thought it would be funny. Yeah, I should have put it enough. There's a there's an upcoming movie You want to cover that while I load up the builds? It's not really big deal is gonna bring up an after party I just put in the wrong section But there's an upcoming Hollywood film that is based on the great Quebec maple syrup heist So it's starring Jason Seagal or Siegel. I'm not actually Siegel. Yeah, Jason Siegel Yeah, and it's based on the 18 million dollar syrup heist, which is pretty beast I just wish there was 14 members of the team. Apparently there was 24 So if there's 14 it would it would it would be like Ocean's 14 maple syrup edition But oh well, that's unfortunate. I was I was really hoping when I was reading through I Remembered this because it's based on a real event. I was really hoping. Where are the bugs of the week? It's in the WAN folder. WAN folder. Okay, I'll find it I was really hoping because I like reread the old news article when they were talking about this massive heist of Maple syrup and I was really hoping it was a team of 14 people, but it was 24 so it's close enough So I'm calling this movie unofficially Ocean's 24 Because I love the Ocean's movies and I love heist movies because I just think they're so cool. Me too They're just yeah, they're awesome. So we're gonna hopefully get to the slide soon here. Yeah. No, I'm I'm ready to rock I think scene six is not the one. Okay, so let's go ahead and remove that Let's add a screen region. Boom add the whole screen and boom build logs of the weekend. Well, okay, let's make it big There you go. All right. Here we go from the beginning liquid cooled fractal by DG So this is just yeah fairly self-explanatory It's just freaking beautiful. I love that It looks so sharp. It looks so clean I maintain the d5 is the only pump that matters and it's ugly is all sin when you don't Custom mod it but this looks great. Yeah I've actually seen that quite a bit lately. Yeah It's become very popular when bit fina are bits power did the first d5 mod kit I refused to stock it when I was when I was carrying them at NCIX because I was like this is stupid No one's gonna pay that much to mod their pumps. But what I didn't think about at the time was well Hold on a second people are gonna have owned d5 pumps for two years. They're gonna have no reason to upgrade it They're gonna be redoing their loop and they're spending less than the amount of buying a new pump on just making their old pump Look great and d5s are so reliable I've been running mine for years and with with form factors of computers going down people want smaller cases to go along with it And you can't really hide them that easily. Yeah, so you might as well make it look awesome Yeah, exactly speaking of looking awesome. Damn angled fittings that white tubing very very gorgeous So that's the Define R4 for those of you who don't already know it's just a great looking setup. He's got right there All right, ultimate cooling machine from deaf boy Hey, this is the first TJ07 build we've featured on the WAN show. I think so. We have the yellow one Was that TJ07? I think it was I might be wrong. Maybe that was TJ10. I think it was TJ10 or TJ10 Maybe that was TJ11. I think it was TJ10 or TJ11. Okay, maybe so uh, do you mind if I take a point on this one? Go for it. Are those hard pipes? Oh my goodness. That is an amazing build. Beautiful Oh, be sure wait. Sorry. I'm just gonna interject one more thing Just like always be sure to check this out on the forum But this guy especially because he like stripped the whole case himself So he has progress shots of like going down to the metal and it just it looks awesome And he's got really nice cameras. So all the shots look great. This is amazing So there's there's a couple things here. So first of all that front panel that stealth front panel looks fantastic I personally would have left this so that I can have front usb or or a front card reader or something I I personally did opt to have that still accessible on mine. I think that's important This is something i've seen done before and I actually wanted to do on mine. So this dramatically improves The uh, the the restrictiveness of the stock grills down here, which they're very very restrictive And if you do it right, you can get it curved just right and it actually looks very very very very good The fact that the case is painted means that he was able to paint the grill so that it matches the case Which is a problem i've seen with some people who have done this mod where it doesn't match the case anymore These hard pipes are outstanding. So that's a liquid cooled rampage four With what what are these these look like they must be Oh crap Oh, they're gtx 680s. You can tell from the stacked pcie the stream's so long that by the time we get to this part I forget the components. Yeah. Yeah, it's fine. Uh, so oh man damn hard pipes Xspc is sort of a funny choice because it's more value oriented But i'm guessing they were a sponsor for the build or something like that and it looks really sharp It goes along with he has a very silver like I don't have a shot of his monitors. Look at that night shot Yeah, I had to include that but he has a very silver based thing So it actually kind of works. I mean this ties into the uh, the discussion you and I were having Oh, oh, wow. There's another one. There's another discussion you and I were having about how do you shop for ram these days and like By looks yeah dominator platinums hands down. So uh, yeah, they're incredibly good um, but the next one once you jump along this was cd this was added because of like Like it's a nice build. Okay, what's with that fan? Yeah, you're gonna be wondering what a few things the main thing that you should be wondering about is actually that which you gotta that Are you confused yet this this box that goes up here? Oh, well, hold on a second. This box goes all the way up here Oh, is that all the kit? Wait, what what is this? Okay. Now now that you've seen it and you see where it's shooting out and you see like there's a cut there and a cut there Oh cool. Is that just cardboard now? Well, just click forward fine. There is his design So he has built a vent for the basement that can shoot up and then directly flow air over his cards I had to include this build but I also had to include the other builds Oh cool. So this is actually it's funny because this is like this is like a ghetto a ghetto rig in some ways Because this is a very archaic way of doing gpu water cooling You can see he's got individual ram sinks on there for the ram components He's got like air cooling sitting over it back in the day. We used to use like antex bot cools for this Yeah, and then he's got individual gpu blocks. I still have two mcw 60s that you can easily make custom mounting hardware for anything You want to be over there? Yeah Yeah, they're in the pile there and at some point I kind of want to do like a dual mcw 60 and my original app OG Would cool build just for lolz. I'd want to redo the mounting hardware and then get it like Coated I get it powder coated by mountain mods or something. That'll be cool. Although I'm kind of mad at them about my case, but Yeah, that's it. But I just I had to include that guy's build because that vent is just that's so cool What a cool what a cool build what a cool idea. I like that I mean, it's one thing when we let the manufacturers choose for us how to direct airflow or whatever else But it's a whole other one when we when we just kind of take matters into our own hands and customize things like that Nope, this is how it's gonna work one quick more thing I don't I think he might be looking at for something but before we end here I also want to do another shout out for the boink and folding teams. We're doing amazingly. Well I don't have the exact numbers on me right now Which way there might try and kill me over because he's probably sent them for to me. But anyways, they're doing incredibly well So be sure to sign up on those teams because it's for a good cause All right Now I have one last thing for you guys and I'm gonna go ahead and just say this out right What my motivation is for this? This is LG's g2 product information video For all intents and purposes the WAN show is kind of over now But I would appreciate very much if you guys would stay tuned for the next three or four minutes You'll learn a little bit about the LG g2, which is their flagship Android smartphone and could very well I mean Marcus Brownlee covered this pretty well in his video on the phone But this could very well be very close to what we're gonna see as the next Nexus device So guys watch the video because I told them look, okay. Yeah, I will I will I'll put that video out there for my viewers to see if you can get us a phone so we can make our own video about it Because otherwise we don't really have access to phones very easily in particular LG We've never worked with them in the past So I figured maybe this is a good way to kick things off And so guys if you really don't want to watch it then tune out otherwise, please do please do check it out here All right, so if you wow 4,000 of you are still here thank you that's actually fantastic because hopefully we can try out some of those features I actually hadn't watched the video yet to be perfectly yeah to be perfectly honest But we were we were looking at some of those kind of wondering. Okay. Well, what are they? I mean the the voice mate thing sounded to me kind of like sexting but like voice like voice mating that's how you got to that I was like what are you talking about how does that possibly we were like we were like whispering whispering to each other during the video you know we were we're all like hey did you see that That's cool things like the audio zoom I think that would be cool stuff to just kind of try out and find out if it works So we'd love to get our hands on the phone without further ado guys. Thank you so much for tuning into the WAN show this week I hope you found it to be a fun and enjoyable episode if you're just tuning in now or if you tuned in sort of later on in the stream We always upload the VOD on to YouTube and we are automatically archiving to Twitch still we have that set now So you can also check it out there if you don't want to wait for the YouTube upload, but whenever the show doesn't get interrupted We can get it up on YouTube really really fast as long as they don't You know put any of those 18 plus restrictions on the videos of us doing so Okay everyone stop asking me I get so many messages We should just leave this here at the end of every show So people who miss it can just see this and we should just leave it streaming Okay guys that's it show's over we're just gonna leave that there so y'all can stop asking us on Twitter We love your Twitter messages we just want you to tweet us about something else We could actually do that because technically what we could do is end the stream now so we have the video file finished Then start streaming again take off the camera stream so it's not pulling from the mic and just leave the computer do this Maybe like temporarily take off Twitch