 Alright guys, welcome to the livestream. We are exactly four minutes early. I was trying to make that five minutes early But I was a little bit late on that last minute Which makes us exactly I think 35 or Was it 50 minutes earlier than last stream? Wow Significant improvement pretty big improvement. First of all, we're before on time So we're early in general and then we're earlier than being like half an hour to 45 minutes late Which is I don't know. I think that's pretty good personally. I don't know. That's just me. We have some pretty cool topics first two are the BBC says that ISP should assume that Any heavy internet VR VPN users? Sorry our pirates. So apparently we both learned today that we're more pirates Yeah, yes. I wish I had my old pirate shirt from packs. Yeah five years ago that would work perfectly the NCT a says four Megabytes per second should be enough to be considered bra bit broadband, which is like Terrible fortune it really terrible just sad. It's September So we have mobile and mobile announcements out the butt and we'll talk about that later Also, we have some pretty serious rumors about 900 series and videograph its cards Which we all know when it's like this level of rumors. They're probably pretty close to true Exactly. We'll talk about those later on as well. I Think we should have a new intro for us for people actually It takes you long to develop I First up we have mod 24 There we go first up we have mod 24 It's on September 18th as you can see there starting at 6 p.m and it is a 24-hour competition where there will be three teams competing to modify things and It'll like I said the last 24 hours and only one team will win Why does and I will be streaming it the entire time? So if we manage to make it through without dying It should be a pretty interesting stream And if we don't manage to make it through and we end up dying then it will be an extremely interesting stream So be sure to tune in and check that out on the 18th Which is pretty soon actually and then next up our next sponsor is Linda calm where you can learn pretty much freaking anything I know Taryn here at works use it uses it to learn Premiere because apparently he didn't know enough when we first hired him Great And if you especially if you're a high school student that wants to go to post-secondary education for programming I would extremely highly suggest Linda comm check out Linda comm slash WAN show to Sign up and I believe if I can find this Yeah, if you go to Linda comm slash WAN show you get a seven-day free trial and plans are about 25 bucks a month It's pretty good deal that's that's that's actually not too bad for what you get it's pretty cool and like I said it's it's good for programmers, but to the news of the show Do you want to jump into? Samsung gear VR and Samsung note 4 immediately or jump into other stuff we could jump into that I think you you should probably talk about the VR. I can talk about the note 4. Okay, so I tried Gear VR a lot of you guys saw my video on that. I was actually pretty impressed With how well it looked but I was a little bit worried with the demos So to go into more detail than the video which you guys should check out Just Samsung gear VR Linus Tech Tips on YouTube. You'll find it It's It's actually fairly nicely built Although the the built-in navigation controls while they work are very odd because if you want to use it to fire you're gonna be like Tapping the side of your head like this to fire and I don't know of any gun personally That you shoot from your face. So And like I know you don't shoot a gun like this either but it feels more natural So I would highly suggest using like a Bluetooth controller and Bluetooth headset because the speaker on the back as well Like it exists and I didn't really get to try it while I was there because it was so loud But that's inherently a problem, right? It was fairly loud while I was there So I didn't really get to try it because I couldn't hear it. Maybe loud where you're trying to use the domain me Yeah, exactly So I don't know I was kind of hoping considering they put that whole speaker pack there. They would have just built in retractable headphones and My my idea when I first saw it I just assumed they did this because it would have been pretty cool was retractable like earbud style headphones Or in your style headphones and then have a plug-in that would override So if you wanted to have your own headphones, right or just have Bluetooth overrided if you wanted to have Bluetooth headphones But apparently not they just went with the speaker. So This is an industry that's evolving constantly though. Yeah, like the VR industry is changing incredibly fast incredibly quick Considering how long ago DK 2 came out and it had a note 3 screen and then now this is a note 4 screen It's a massive improvement that basically now to add on to the note 4 screen The thing that has me worried battery life in the industry I work in which I can work 18 hour days Sometimes battery life is a huge problem. Yeah, and obviously this is not something you're working with an industry But you have to survive off your note 4s battery Do I have that correct? Yeah, I find that to be a flaw. That's Now there's no wires attached though. So there's a huge benefit on the other side of that Yeah, no it is and I did bring this up in the video You're you're attached to the note 4 in more ways than you would necessarily want to be right One thing is very cool because no cables like you're talking about you can freely spin around Which is interesting for the demos that they showed at the event Right because like one of the demos that they had was your your underwater And there's all these crazy fish and sea animals and stuff going around you, but you're fixed in a spot So you can sit there and spin and look at all these different things around you and it's really cool And now that's doable with a DK 2 from oculus But you're gonna be constantly like holding on to the cable and lifting it like above you and like making sure I can spin I'm like managing this thing which completely breaks immersion. Yeah, exactly It's cool that you can just sit there and spin but then at the same time There is a limited spinning duration. I guess because the battery on the phone, right? If you're playing a game, it's not gonna last forever now There's counter arguments to this and saying that you're probably not gonna want to stay in this not super well refined yet VR environment forever because Oculus DK 2 gear VR all this kind of stuff is still not there yet. It's still a little bit jarring So while I can stay in VR environments for quite a long time So while I can stay in VR environments for quite a long time because I've been toying with them for a very long time Especially if someone's new to it It's it's maybe not something you're gonna want to do for a massive amount of time in per session So you could charge your phone between that but it's still a little bit. I don't know. The other thing is You don't plug it into a computer. So you don't have this massive powerhouse Powering really good point. You have your phone. So it's a note for is beefy. It is but it's not a desktop It's not a desktop. So and That's gonna limit what you can actually play and while you could do some like desktop streaming stuff It's still not great. Mm-hmm And that that's why I said in my video as well Hopefully they partner with like Steam or Nvidia or someone to get a really really good version of streaming like they have for the shield or the shield tablet because those are very good But the current solutions for streaming to a phone while they're pretty good are Not really fully there and it's gonna have to be amazing for it to be VR ready Right because you can't manage like if you turn your head and there's a little bit of lag It like makes you feel sick, right? I've experienced but it before it's not fun I tried doing a remote streaming thing with some weird ghetto cardboard setup thing that I did Didn't end up making a video about it because it totally failed It was no good. So Yeah, you're attached to this processor But there will be some interesting stuff like they're bringing portal or I think they already did bring portal to Android, right? So you'd be able to play portal you can play half-life I believe half-life 2 even you can play and it's weird because it's third person but you can play GTA Interesting the original GTAs were third person. Right? Yeah it's it's weird because it's third person but It's still kind of cool. Yeah, because it's it's like simulating this massive monitor I don't like how they describe it because they're like, oh, yeah, it's like you're sitting right in front of like a 180 inch TV and I'm like, it's not really the same thing at all. Sorry But it is kind of it is an interesting different cool way to play but that would be more of a I'm gonna sit here and not turn at all and Just like stare straight forward and right controller to manage all the actual camera movement and then at that point I'm playing the new GTA when it comes out in a super long time in a super long best segue ever I wasn't even preparing for that at all. Okay, we'll jump back for note That's fine. The segue was so beautiful. We have to go forward with this. I had to take advantage. It's perfect. So They they they announced GTA 5 release dates for Next gen and PC and I was like, oh sweet. We're finally gonna know what it's coming Obviously expecting holiday season surprised. It wasn't announced at PAX but their GTA so it probably doesn't really matter Xbox one and ps4 are getting them on November 18th pretty much exactly when I expected it to happen But that does not include the PC version I'm sure twitch chat is already freaking out about this because I'm sure everybody knows I didn't launch the thing cuz I'm super dumb This needs to be public There we go Okay, that's okay The PC version is not releasing until January 27th of next year Yeah That you know, that's when everyone's trying to make their money back from Christmas That's when everyone's kind of you know, yelling in the snow That's when everyone's kind of you know, yelling in the spending awkward time. It is it is sales drop Incredibly in January 27th, there might be a peak because of all the different PC users I know there's a big modding community behind GTA a lot of the older GTA titles you know, they get they get modded incredibly while we're at PAX the mutual friend showed us the Video of where someone basically implemented watch dogs. That was so cool into GTA. It was incredible You know, incredibly really well done. Definitely looked that up. I don't have it in my notes or anything, but GTA 4 I believe it was I think it was yeah GTA 4 watch dogs mod. It's done really really mind-blowing Incredibly well done like I might actually go mod it to be able to do that because then it would probably run better than watch dogs anyways But yeah, he used ice enhance and a few other mods and then his own stuff and made the watch dogs mod And it's incredibly well done. It's If you weren't paying a ton of attention You might almost think it's watch dogs because of how many different things you can do like the the like what do you even call them? elevating roadblock things Perfect description. Yeah, that was the one of the first things in the video So, you know, you're watching the right video if this happens, but yeah and traffic he can hack everything It's it's really you can even do camera hacking which I didn't expect to work at all and you can jump from camera to camera You can go prone. Yeah, I don't believe it's something that exists in GTA I don't think so you can go prone because you can can do that and watch dogs Yeah, and he shows going up on top of a train and going prone Yeah, one of the the overpass things which I don't know. That's pretty interesting now jumping backwards With a much worse segue note for so the note for I've been really excited for this phone I've been talking to you about this phone. There's been lots of rumors about this phone It's the flagship and the note series is really it's the really it's a real big hitter these days, you know the note 2 Kind of wasn't a huge deal There wasn't really anything super special about it The note 3 is really when I feel and I think you would agree that the note really came into its own and it really Separated itself from the pack The note 4 is continuing that the s-pen has incredibly Upgraded features with how it can detect with the pressure and you can write with different kind of like pens It's supposed to feel much more intuitive. Yeah, I'd have to go to you and comment on that It's I've used it a small amount They didn't have a lot of text examples there, which was kind of lame when they're like, oh super awesome pen Which is great for selecting text which we don't have right? Okay But it did seem better another problem was that they didn't have a note 3 there to directly compare right? So like I was doing it. I was like this feels good. I don't know So yeah, I think it was better Well, it just shows their dedication to the s-pen to their style is built into their phone because in the note 2 it really wasn't Anything special the note 3 it came with a bunch of cool little features I know my mom our mom actually uses it quite a bit and then they're continuing on with the note 4 Another thing is the big battery. It's got a 3220 milliamp battery. So again, they're keeping the battery up again processor as well Quad core Snapdragon running at 2.7 gigahertz. That's the North American launch. I believe the European launch is an octa core Yeah, to double check it in actually write that write that one down The main camera is a 16 megapixel with the rear camera Or sorry with the rear camera the main camera being a 16 megapixel the front-facing camera being a 2.7 Mega pixel got a super amoled display Gorilla Gorilla Glass 3 and it's got a 515 pixel density with that makes it 1440 by 2560 now a question I want to throw at you Was you and Linus talk a lot about the resolution of phones? That's something I've noticed on a lot of the WAN shows That I've been watching the differences and you know 720 possibly being a little too low But some of the ceilings being a little too high. Where do you think the note 4 falls in that? Again problem being I didn't have a lot of comparison They didn't have a note 3 there that I could compare against my phone is a moto X not the greatest So I needed to pull it out of that situation Which is why at the end of the review I said I need more hands-on time with it But I'm kind of thinking because it is such a massive phone at that scale. Maybe it could make a difference, right? I'm thinking at that screen size. Maybe it matters. I'm not sure I need to get it back here where I can actually compare it against Other phones. I do know in your video you were saying is one of the nicest screens you've looked at it looks really good But then that isn't necessarily tied to resolution right that could just be tied to it being a really nice looking super AMOLED panel That's true because it did look really good. It did look very vibrant. I like the saturation all that kind of stuff It was a beautiful screen. I just don't know if all of that's actually tied to resolution So I'd love to get it back here. I know the second you line it up against a g3 You'll be like, yep note looks a lot better because G3 sacrificed all the like nice color saturation all that kind of stuff that they could have had for the resolution and it seems like The note 4 did not they got that resolution in there But then they also didn't sacrifice much for it, which is great And one thing that people have brought up is the lower battery life thing There's pretty simple tricks you can do by downloading apps that I don't even think you need to root your phone for which can Change your resolution down Right and you can even have like some triggering apps that will trigger based on different events launch the app that Reduces the resolution on your phone once you hit a different battery threshold level. Yeah, I've heard I haven't used any person I've heard of that. Yeah. Yeah, so there are ways around that Of course, it's not super elegant and I think it would be cool if they built that type of functionality into the phone This is really random but greenify. Have you heard of greenify? Have you used that at all? No, the same guy who showed us the GTA video showed me green of what green if I'm just gonna throw this in there for two Seconds, it's a great little app. It's a free app. But what it does is it controls the apps on your phone now I use this in my tablet in my truck And it's really helped me with battery life I think we might actually do a video about that coming up, but I'll show you how it works But it's a great app. If you're having battery life problems It controls your other apps controls Facebook Twitter any of those apps and it won't allow them To basically wake up while they're in a sleep mode great little app little thing Now back to the note for the odd thing about the note for compared to the note 3 and something that I really liked About the note 3 was that it had USB 3, right? It was an attachment that allowed you to have a USB 3 connector or USB. Yeah. Yeah, it was either or It was I thought extremely well done Apparently sounds like didn't think so because the note 4 does not have that feature Yeah, I think a lot of it was public perception People found it one ugly they didn't like it because it was just this giant hole on the bottom and you had to have the big cable, but then you didn't have Yeah, you didn't have to have a big cable. I think there was also a lot of misconception on that I don't think a lot of people realized that it was backwards compatible and you could use your old USB 2.0 cables That could be true public perception. I think a large amount of it was public perception So they were like okay if no one wants it anyways, then we'll just go back We'll just go back despite it being a much faster medium And I think another thing is it's a lot of people are doing file transfer wirelessly. Anyways, that's true So updates and everything. Yeah. Yeah while you're gaining Wired speed a lot of people are just gonna transfer files between their computer and whatnot wirelessly. So Makes sense. Yeah, I think I think no one really cared and the people that did care didn't want it so they just ditched it although I Would have liked to still see it there But I don't really care either because I'm one of those people that does everything wirelessly So and until they come up with that I'm gonna segue again right here. Watch that. Are you ready? I'm ready until they come up with that power USB power, too Oh, yeah, they knew higher power. Yeah, then I would be like, okay I can see them moving off the USB 2.0 standard So if we can find this article in here wherever it is, I segued without being perhaps if they had a USB 3.1 Type C There we go So real pictures have started surfacing of USB 3.1 type C Which is absolutely fantastic peak throughput goes through 10 gigabits per second from the 5 gigs per second of 3.0 Which is essentially 1.25 gigabytes per second, which is pretty cool and USB power delivery 2.0 Which not enough people care about I don't know why Like I made a video on 100 watt USB cables at Pax CES 2014 yeah this year and like no one cared You should care and then every time we talk about it everyone's like, uh, I'm like, this is such a big deal It is really a huge deal USB continues to Be an amazing thing. I don't know how else to say that Put that in better vocabulary if you read the article the article on Linus tech the USB 3.1 Posted by good bites is an excellent article. It's got a ton of really good pictures. You guys should check it out But it's continuing USB is a huge deal again to refer to the tablet in my truck. I have it attached through USB It's basically through a modified cigarette lighter. It just slowly trickles power to my tablet while it's up So a big thing for me is making sure it doesn't lose any power While my trucks off and that's a big thing I have to focus on With this kind of connector I could lose so much more power and make all of that back. It's it's really What do you mean that big deal reversible to which is reversible? We're just gonna stare at the guys like details of his skin so nice photo because I think they focused on the wrong thing Yeah, it's cool. No, no worries Pretty cool. Yeah, I'm excited for that especially the power thing. I don't even As long as stuff works because that's one of the reasons why people get a little bit confused when I talk about I'm gonna scroll down to a better picture of the connector there People get confused when I talk about why I like USB 2.0 ports on motherboards and then I was trying to defend myself and people were like, oh, I know it always works and I went to go work on a motherboard and None of the USB 3.0 ports worked and then I had to reformat this laptop. I put Windows 7 on it and They're all USB 3.0 ports and the only way I could get data onto it when I reformat to Windows 7 was through the disk tray because it didn't have an Ethernet driver and none of the USB ports worked and I was like this is why Did it feel ancient did it feel like you're going back in time? It was so weird I had to find disks because usually back in the day it was like, oh whatever got spindles all replaced I got spindles for days Now it's like I don't I haven't even tried to use one of these in a long time My desktop didn't even have a drive so I had to go find an external optical drive thing So I could actually I haven't had a drive in my desktop. I want to say for six years Yeah, I you know, maybe not quite six maybe five but You know, I remember one time I had to I had to drive all the way here to borrow your CD-ROM USB I think you might even still have that. I probably do. Yeah, I just I had to I had to go to the office and get that one because I was like, I can't find my old I think it's LG I haven't seen it in years. It's definitely LG. It's definitely in my pile of computer stuff Awesome You can see it in the old mineral oil computer video that I have. Yes, not that I used it there But I had it plugged in so I was like, oh it looks cool. Because when you you built that Was that the Vista age or was that yeah? Yeah, so you still you know, you still kind of needed it, right? So yeah, it was still helpful exactly through day to day So the next topic which we're gonna have a Twitter poll for and I'm gonna get this one properly on my screen at the start of the topic While you're doing that, I just want to give a shout out because we're gonna be mentioning everyone who posted the Linus tech tips forum I obviously Have seen the forum since the beginning and amazing posts on this forum like you guys should really pat yourselves on the back I'm kind of a weird Linus tech edition kind of free contractor for But so from a view from the outside like you guys do an amazing job and I mean you guys as the guys posting on there I lurk I take a bunch of information and Sorry, I digress but really good. No, it's it's really good. And we have a post This is from Jericho and this is a very good post, but we have a post coming up, which I'm gonna have to specifically call out For I think our iPhone segment the iPhone one is written me crazy well by Victoria's Secret But we'll get there in a second. This post was by Jericho. So AT&T and Verizon which are a part of Let me get the name here the National Cable and Telecommunications Telecommunications Association or NCTA which is yeah AT&T and Verizon have filed documents to the FCC Trying to say that broadband is already fast enough and claiming that 4 megabits per second or 0.5 Megabytes a second Should remain should remain the standard for broadband The FCC has been considering raising the definition of broadband to 10 megabits per second, which they should From and its original definition was 200 kilobits per second, which was up to 4 megabits per second in 2010 That was a lot of megabits per second that I just said streaming HD content isn't even really possible at 4 megabits per second and I am I'm not surprised that they're doing this But my heart is sad. It's it makes me think I I can't even do the quotes I'm gonna get it wrong, but the Bill Gates quote about you know, 256 bits Or he's he claims that that never actually even happened really I think it was like was it 56 kilobytes of RAM will be all you ever need. It's something I can't remember the yeah, he claims it never actually happened or it was taken out of context or something I don't remember what but I feel like this is gonna be the new one Do you know what I mean? Like this is gonna be the extreme underestimate the Underexaggeration of what we currently need and what we're going to need as everything is going online And just to segue a little bit I use hangouts on my phone for my text messaging app trying to explain to my mother and grandfather About how you can have an SMS message and a hangouts message and they're in the same thing And one uses data and one day like that was very difficult everything but my my emphasis with that is everything is going Online, you know, I mean like when we try to jump a border we use the internet, right? Everything is going to the internet, you know You can if you're a Seahawks fan you can download if you're a Canucks fan any of these fans You can download packages to watch their games online through your computer You can stream them you pay them a specific fee instead of the cable company. It's starting Yeah, right. Everything is going Netflix. Everything is going to broadband and this is that even more later on but this is just ridiculous This is painful It's stupid. It's I guess I'm streaming the stream, which is fantastic. I need to go back to You Here I I'm not surprised they're doing it because I think what they're trying to do is keep the definition low So they can still charge people a lot for a service that sounds by its naming Better than it is and part of the problem is with a broad name like broadband Yeah with a broad name like broadband I had to say that sorry It needs to have its definition changed from time to time because The standard of what you're going to do on the internet is going to change. I no longer look up Well, we still do sometimes but like the Space Jam website is an example that I use all the time Let's look up Space Jam here Is this it Yes, the old-school Space Jam website which still runs. This is not the kind of internet that we're using now These are still clickable images with like random like this little spinny thing right here That's that was super cool. That was like the height of difficult internet data But hey, we don't do that anymore It's a lot harder people are trying to stream Netflix all the time People are trying to stream high high quality YouTube videos YouTube is streaming into trying to get up to 4k and stuff We have 3200 people streaming this show this exactly streaming It's very difficult to do on your internet connection if you have Broadband at 0.5 megabytes per second It's not going to be that great and especially when stuff like YouTube and twitch are trying to get into 60 FPS streams 60 FPS is gonna be a lot more data than like we have a video on this the 792p WTF video Where I talk about how to GTX 480 a super old I think it's like five year old graphics card It is a top tier graphics card, but still a five year old graphics card is beating out modern consoles I Talk about in that video The next gen consoles make a giggle Sorry, I talk about in that video how it's much harder to ramp up the FPS and the resolution So when they're running at 30 FPS 792p, that's really depressing that they couldn't just up to 1080p Because it's really not that hard what would have been hard for them to do is stay at 792p and jump to 60 FPS So that's a lot more data that you're that you're pushing through anymore. So You can't you can't just keep this definition static I don't know how much we actually need to talk about this because I'm sure I'm just preaching to the choir I like what you said though. Just to add one last thing on I never thought of it as a money grab Right. Yeah, we can set the standard to be this low if you want something acceptable What we would consider what most people when everyone watching would be considered to be acceptable You're gonna have to pay here never really thought of that before that. I think that's the biggest point Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if that's it because you see It's much easier for a company that has to do deployments to increase their infrastructure to try to stay stagnant Right Because then if they can just keep pushing out the same service all the time Then they can just take subscription fees You're just stacking money Yeah, you're just stacking money. Yeah Essentially so if they have to go around and upgrade all this stuff That's just money out Right, it's just money out Right, it's just directly money out. I don't know I hear you. See this this could be an education thing too If we can just teach people to start interpreting raw speeds instead of terms That can help but then like mom is never gonna want to figure out How fast in relation to what she's doing these different speeds are she's always gonna want to know Oh broadband connection. I'm good That would be way more helpful for her. If it's not your hobby, you're not gonna be as informed Yeah, you know what I mean for us for a lot of people watching. This is your hobby. You're very well informed Yeah for those that you know, your hobbies lies elsewhere. Yeah, you know, you're you're gonna be getting screwed by these companies Yeah, I don't know it's It's a sad topic that's all I really have to say it is depressing and moving on to more depressing topics But kind of awesome at the same time top websites have joined the Internet slowdown day in symbolic protest of fast lanes So if we can jump here To the forum yet again Clicking on the scene that says Linus's screen is confusing when Linus is not here So a topic posted by Dietrich W I hope I'm saying your name correct Lee is showing how top websites join the Internet slow day. We did not I'm sorry I wanted to I was very busy with my trip down in Vegas I was kind of hoping that mr. Wizard was gonna jump on that but I also didn't tell him to It was it was a mess. Sorry, but I think Enough of our members go to enough websites that did it It was probably okay, I know that's not a very good excuse Netflix did it I think reddit did it which is Yeah, I wish I had a list here. Do I have a list here of everyone that did? Yeah, reddit Vimeo four square WordPress boing boing were among the major ones and you said Netflix did as well Which is pretty cool. I don't actually know for a fact I didn't try it but there was an announcement that I read that Netflix said they were okay. They were joining so right Where is it here? I wish I had metrics on how many people emailed out due to that but they the FCC website got a ton of Comments and emails and calls to different senators and stuff. I'm not exactly sure how American politics work, but many things happened which Should hopefully help American politics. I don't know Basically, that's about it join the fast lane calm is a very I was just showing the dock again Derp join the fasting calm. This is this is a parody website, which I don't know if you saw this which is talking about It's essentially Pretending we're in the future Where there is a fast lane and there's all this bull crap. I didn't actually I wish I clicked this link. I'm I'm very It's pretty funny. So they spoofed some companies. So there's video tube There's movie flicks and there's soundify Obviously instead of YouTube Netflix and Spotify so as you guys can see on here soundify fast lane exclusive only available for fast lane subscribers movie flicks available 20 summer of 2018 Which like you you get fast Essentially Netflix. That's what they're trying to pretend they are Titles, but then not everything is even available Video tube you buy 500 megabytes of priority streaming This is all super depressing stuff and obviously it might be a little bit exaggerated Especially once you get down to the prices. I was just waiting for you to scroll. This is my favorite part Yeah, best deal extreme $200 a month for 12 months It's been unlimited emails unlimited emails. Oh my god Free download of the fast lane client probably actually means 2000 because every single time I see unlimited on anything There's fine print. It's like actually 2000 so not unlimited at all not even close. No, definitely a cap, which is very reachable It happens literally every month like a lot of our subscribers Yeah, so it's exaggerated but it's a really good point And I think I think it's it's helpful to show off to people you'd frag like a pro 15 bucks a month to get faster network speeds when you're playing games like Gross this is why we need net neutrality To like Take care of things and make sure we don't all get completely screwed So again, I don't have a ton to add because American politics. I don't really know it is very important though And I have sent emails to FCC people and stuff. This was a while back I don't know if you can do it more than once. I should probably just do it again As maybe a different person or something. I didn't say that though. You didn't hear that here Yeah, I don't know back in the day Yeah, I don't know bad things. We're gonna move on to good things because things are getting depressing What do you want to jump to I don't know we have 900 series rumors All right, so Zotac GTX 970 and 980 prices were leaked of course, this is still kind of rumor mill level stuff but previous rumors had them at 399 for the 970 and 499 for the 980 and now It's looking a little bit more extreme like the 980 being at around 700 to 770 dollars and the 970 being 430 to 500 dollars But again, these are rumors and one really big thing that I'm thinking about which I've seen other people post So this isn't necessarily an original idea and I should bring this up rip I'm not usually the one that controls the screen. So it's very foreign for me to do this This was posted by tech fanatic on the forum our resident AMD awesome man and I think a lot of it has to do with being being the first and leaking it and I've heard somewhere that you can do pre-orders. So it's definitely gonna be more expensive You're gonna be able to pre-order we see that a lot of times with especially computer hardware or in some industries They're like five dollars off if you pre-order or one really crappy low grade skin that you're gonna buy the other ones for anyways in a video game But in this one, it's like no you pay more money. So kind of unfortunate. I'm hoping that the price drops I know Nvidia was talking about how it's supposed to be cheaper I'm hoping they weren't just saying how it would be cheaper for them to manufacture and Honestly, I really expect that there's gonna be pretty much no difference. I expect it to cost pretty much the exact same amount as This year's did I wouldn't be surprised if the the tier grades cost the same amount as the previous tier grades So a 980 will probably cost just as much as a 780 did why they skipped 800 I was confused enough when they skipped 300 I'm like just why just why it's a name my buddy has a 460. I have a 260 is that Massively better or is that just like a normal amount better? Really kind of annoying. I'm wondering you and I were actually speculating what what Nvidia is gonna do. Yeah, what is it? Because AMD Not so great on the naming scheme not a fan. It should not go 280 285 280 X that should never have been possible Should not be a thing and I really hope Nvidia doesn't doesn't throw it under the bus We forgot to do a Twitter blitz Twitter blitz Twitter blitz. We're gonna put it about We're not gonna do it here. Actually, we're gonna do it on the desktop where it looks better Twitter Here we go. So what we're talking about right now is the net neutrality thing and The 4 megabits per section Shouldn't be opt for broadband So this guy says numbers on net neutrality thing. I'm not gonna be clicking on very many links, but this is fairly interesting You guys can't see this Very well, here we go. You can see it a little bit. So 2 million thirty nine thousand five hundred people took action three hundred and three thousand ninety nine calls were made and try and scroll down very small amounts There we go two million one hundred and sixty seven thousand ninety two emails sent to Congress. That's pretty intense seven hundred and twenty two thousand three hundred sixty four comments filed to the FCC and Four point seven million comments filed since March 1st. Wow, that's awesome. Good work everyone But now we can't click on any more links because now the troll links are just gonna start. Yeah exactly links are done Over No, Rick Astley No, Rick Astley At control alt delete, you know, he got his link in yeah, it's over now good work at control delete good timing Ashley says four megabits per second is way too slow. I think that's a very accurate kind of general consensus. Someone else tweeted. I Want to get his name here shoot. I can't see it. Someone else tweeted that his phone gets gets better speeds. It probably does It probably does Cory Barnwell. There we go Tommy boy 50 25 says there should not be a set standard for broadband as bandwidth is always increasing and broadband standards should move with the trend I completely agree Ases in my book. Yeah, boy 50 25. I think you already called them out fluid. Yeah fluid terms should not be fixed They're fluid terms. It's literally in the name. Yep I don't know if that's actually the official name for what they are But like it's it's not a static definition. So it shouldn't be a static definition. That's what I'm trying to say Another guy confirming that two million people sent emails to Congress because the internet slow day It's money it's gotta be America go back to being land of the people claim what is rightfully yours Now if you buy out a Samsung phone, it's obviously more expensive Yeah, when you get a plan like I do all the time, yeah, I don't buy out my phones cuz I'm not that ballin we've talked to on the show before it really depends what's Happening because if you're if you're jumping on a contract that completely breaks the game if you're buying out, of course I don't see any whole buying everything Yeah, I don't see anyone buy anything outside of like Nexus one plus and maybe a motor maker phone Yeah, I'm auto X that's that's pretty much maybe I'm wrong. Maybe there's something else in there. I might be missing something I don't know anyone who buys out a Samsung device. Yeah, it's the way I have mine the way My mom and dad have theirs the way my buddies had theirs when they were grabbing s3s people are kind of splitting off now We had a big s3 right? Yeah, yeah in our group of friends when it came out, but yeah, everyone seemed to grab one up But they're all through contract. Yeah, and the contracts don't really change maybe Dollars or yeah or nothing and that's on your startup for your three years. Yeah, so it kind of it's all different But yeah, and I don't think I can knock them out anyways, so moving on You know what just slow down the entire internet actually let's just kill it it's the best option for them all I would prefer No, I like my job. Yeah, I like the internets here. Here's the Comment from Cory barnwell. I believe you read earlier my fungus better speed than broadband. That's just like come on guys For most people for maybe it's for second is fine average Joe doesn't care about HD but improvements is always better Especially for the future. I don't actually necessarily agree with you. By the way, you're awesome I met you at PAX and that was actually really cool, but average Joe is now watching Netflix and average Joe watching Netflix is gonna tell when his screen goes And looks more pixel II because Netflix jumps down a section because his internet takes a tiny dip and he has crappy 4 megabit per second and probably isn't on high def anyways And I know a lot of average Joe that are gonna be watching Netflix on their TV are really into the fact that they have a nice Exactly, and they're gonna notice when their Netflix content looks way crappier than their other content and they're gonna want something more So I don't actually agree with you in this stance Because because of average Joe watching so much Netflix now if you go back in couple years, I can see where he's going Yeah, I can see the idea behind But especially now with phones like you know You see all these average Joe guys and I know when I work with a lot of truckers who are just totally not in tech At all their phones are beginning bigger and crazier and they like them You know what I mean? Like when my dad just picked up an s4 got it real cheap. Yeah, what he did not care about his phone He was telling me wasn't gonna go through with the deal if it wasn't you know, if it's too expensive He won't put it down. Yeah, he will not get off the phone Candy candy, that's not the only it but he's playing a bunch of different games and he's always like he's talking to it You know using Google now. He's I just bought him a Chromecast yesterday I mean, he's using the Chromecast like he's all over it and I think more and more people with the technology sitting in their hand, you know Like mom got a background that when you swipe it changes Blew her mind, right which is cool. Like she's happy. I'm happy right everybody's happy But I think the average Joe because of phones especially and because of Netflix like two things Basically television and the phone in their hands is becoming bigger stronger Devices which consume more inherently. I think the average Joe started talking about it We turn this blitz into a into a really long discussion. Yeah We drove down and camped out for the long battle Um, but yeah, no, it's the the average Joe was starting to consume more and I think that ties back into a comment That was said by someone else and by me earlier Which is where it's a fluid definition that's changing because what the average Joe is doing is fluid and changing Kick on the top. I don't know how to pronounce this name. That's why I was kind of hovering above it It's super cool, but I don't know how to say that. Oh I'm gonna say suren suren suren diets Fugue slang Yeah Yeah, I have no it sorry if I just butchered the crap out of your name He says and that's why we don't like AT&T as a sponsor for the show. Please jump on the forum I think you'll be able to find the post specifically through Lannis's Twitter and He has a post talking about the sponsorship thing way in there Because Lannis will be reading everything in that topic and we'll see where to go from there other than that That's about all I have to say going up very slowly in the comments Way more notifications. No, I shifted to the side. I'll move my laptop. There you go. We're good We're good. I got a hundred megabit down and five megabit up I think ISPs should really only stop should Really stop only make a synchron internet connection available I do way faster on my 4g than pile of crap for maybe per second. That's actually pretty beast Now I got a question for you and something that I hope some of our viewers are wondering about because I've always wondered this I've never done it. Have you ever uploaded from your LTE phone? We did I Don't remember what the results were because the stats it gives you are insane And I just want to see if the stats actually measure up to real real-life experience But I guess that's one for another time, but yeah, it's it's I Hear you again Those are that'll be megabit and a lot of times when you're doing file transfers the file transfer is read in megabyte, right? Yeah, so it doesn't feel like you're getting the same you feel like you're getting chipped out But it's because there's that like 8x ratio between them because of like a bit being a single I still Pronounce it wrong and mess them up. I still I really got a tight. I noticed it in the it's a pet peeve for me Just because I've taken so many networking courses, but I noticed it in the intro. I think oh did I do the right? Not a big deal pokeplan Says I don't know what you get there in Vancouver, but here in Edmonton for megabit per second is considered value and I hear you the internet connections aren't out here aren't fantastic either We have to pay a pretty hefty amount to get above that but that doesn't mean that the definition should necessarily change just because the internet in Canada and Places like Australia. I always have to call you guys out whenever we talk about internet because it's horrible over there The next comment is actually perfectly about Australia. Is it there? I'm next I gotta move down not to leave you but keep talking about previous one Just because we are lagging behind Doesn't mean that the definition shouldn't change what people are trying to do in our areas is still increasing at the same rate We're getting these options that are available around the world That's not necessarily true. I was just gonna say Netflix Netflix isn't actually available everywhere No, that is available around the world with certain things like VPNs, which apparently makes you a pirate despite paying for the service But whatever And and we the definition shouldn't be held back by us just because our ISPs are jerks and push people like Verizon out of the country when While I might not necessarily be a huge fan of Verizon competition competition would have helped and I was stoked for them coming in Not because I would have switched to their service because hopefully our services would have either improved in Their their deployments so I would have been able to get a faster internet connection or would have gone down in price I was hoping for honestly either one of those This is scary America's making Australian internet look good. I don't know if it's at that point. Yeah, I don't know because their connections Are still much faster in most places They're just not changing the definition Australian and it's pretty bad man. I know you're probably trying to like give yourself a plus one, but it's pretty bad All people are just talking about Using a VPN is the other hand is worse than blue. It may avoid ISP filtering, but it doesn't solve the underlying problem I completely agree with you. That's not what I was trying to say I was just trying to say VPNing so you could get Netflix which is getting out of filtering or allowing yourself to actually buy the service or Allowing yourself to get the American one which usually has way more stuff on it. I wasn't trying to say that you like Yeah, that's that's not what I was trying to say. I think we're done with Twitter blitz for now That was like you said we carved some trenches. We did we dug deep we built fortresses We didn't really blitz we we built a defensive line One or two blitzed forward one we specifically blitzed. Yes But anyways moving on I just I had forgotten that we had said we were gonna do that Twitter blitz I'm gonna jump down and do sponsor spots now because our sponsors are awesome this week and Linda calm so if you go to Linda calm slash when show you get a free seven-day trial I believe it was $25 a month if you want to jump on it I know one of our editors Taryn who is unfortunately out right now because Linda calm Couldn't teach him how to do it. I'm sorry um couldn't teach him how to not have tendonitis because that they really try that's it makes no sense at all But it could teach him how to be a better editor So he's been learning premiere tricks on there for a long time And you can actually see that in a lot of our fastest possible episodes because he's done a lot of the editing for that And they're really cool jump in again. 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Sorry, and we're constantly hunting for more definitions the way I like describing it we're off the lynda.com thing, but the way I like describing it is if this is how I describe it to the non techies because I'm trying to like Make them understand what the point of the channel is because there's stuff on there for techies too because there's some pretty high-end terms but there's also like Very simple things as well So how I try to describe it is if you walk into a store and you're reading a label and you don't understand one Of the terms on the label you should be able to go to tech wiki Type in that term and there should be a fast possible episode on it It's a great way to describe and if there isn't yet suggest it to us and we'll try to get one done Anyways lynda.com can teach you a whole whack ton of stuff For uh, I think they have over like thousands of courses and they add new ones all the time. So it's great And I especially suggest it I do this every single time we're talking about lynda.com But I especially suggest it for people That are say in high school and want to even if you're not but say this is my use case specifically if you're in high school and you're into programming and you want to go to post-secondary for programming You can get a huge massive very Uh, like noticeable leg up on people by jumping on lynda.com and learning things like java and python and your your more introductory languages Because you'll probably be learning that for If not your first term Your first two terms. Yeah, there's a lot of different places or they start you off with java and stuff So if you can learn the fundamentals before you go to school to learn the fundamentals You'll you'll get really good grades in those classes and be rolling more easily and then when they when they hit you with new stuff It'll be easier for you to transition because you'll hopefully be still carrying along with lynda.com. It'll be just less stressful That's exactly my point and you can manage You can you can deal with other stuff which could be stressful like living in a new area and Have it not having your friends there and having to figure out how to buy food and dealing with having no money Other stuff you have a lot of stuff to deal with. I think we both went through it Yeah, kind of different experiences, but kind of the same and again, he wasn't joking They're gonna hit you with java if you were going down this path They're gonna not not every school hits you with java immediately But I can pretty much guarantee you that you'll be learning java at some point trying to escape it. There's there's your child Yeah, yeah, despite what I may think of java not a huge fan personally You'll you'll learn it at some point. The next sponsor is kind of a show actually. It's mod 24 It's happening on september 18th at 6 p.m. Linus and I have to somehow figure out how to survive for 20 hours on stream I was gonna add that Nick was going over the schedule and I was kind of listening while I was prepping for the for the show. We're doing here I know you're pretty tough. I know you're pretty tough, you know and someone was asking I am the older brother I brought you up a little tough. I think yeah, good luck It's gonna be rough you were in for it. Oh, yeah My intro thing was if we don't die, it'll be an interesting stream and if we wasn't exaggerating That's I thought that you know, they're assuming there's much more exaggeration than what is actually going on your guys' schedules nuts We're gonna be working a full day the day before and then we're gonna have to plan and pack and everything that night And then take off at a pretty early flight Land have two or three hours before we have to be at meetings for the pre-show then stream for 24 hours and then Do the WAN show right afterwards, so we're gonna get like Six seven hours of sleep and then be awake for like 40 hours. Yeah and be on camera for like almost the whole duration No, it'll be probably 25 and a half hours on camera. Yeah Cool Cool, uh, don't know how we're gonna survive that I know we have a few plans kind of that we're bouncing back and forth like kind of shift work kind of thing One thing I really want to do which I don't know if we're gonna be able to get working Is if you've watched the the old iron chef, not the american iron chef I don't remember where it was actually technically from but the old iron chef Uh when the guy goes out amongst the cooks, yeah squeeze on This is happening super cool. I want to be that guy. I want to be out amongst the builders Uh, you'll get squeeze on or sorry Linus This this cool guy is cooking up an amazing computer. Uh, I don't know. I think that could be awesome. So Tune in 6 pm september 18th watch linus and I die Well a whole bunch of modders try to actually make really cool systems. There's three teams There will be one champion come watch to figure out who it will be Come check it out. I'll be watching it on my my second monitor there. I'll be in chat So i'm i'm gonna try and pay attention to the chat as much as I possibly can and see if someone can make it through The entire time. Oh, wow See, yeah, that's the one name and like i'm gonna track you too. I want you to show up to wands show as well Oh So 25 and a half hours. I want to see if anyone can make it because I don't know. It's gonna be pretty intense We will see and that's it for sponsor segment d stuff and types and things I feel like filled with my go. Oh type some things. Yeah some things. Yeah, destiny makes two Almost just said 250 million dollars all the real numbers sounded too ridiculous. That's what he makes 500 million dollars in the first 24 hours of sales, which is Insane is the biggest new ip launch in gaming history. The previous record was held by watchdogs although the totals Are not readily available probably because after their immediate launch the sales went like that Because it was not what it was said to be and I know the pc guys at least were totally not stoked And I know the console guys were like, and it's not really as cool as you thought it was gonna be fed That works pretty word. Yeah, everyone got it said it was gonna be It is the highest selling one day A digital console release in history, which that's not nearly as surprising because as time goes on we're doing a lot more digital stuff Now with all that said are you excited for the pc version? if if I said that wrong if there is a pc version. Yeah, if that World exists as far as I know it's kind of a no at this point But at the same time as far as I know they haven't actually said no Which as far as we haven't said no is actually pretty indicative that it will happen Just months later. Yeah, exactly probably after the holiday season Yeah, exactly when no one has any money left in January. I think 27th gta 5 It will come out at the worst possible time It's I'm pretty stoked. It looks cool to be honest. I just it doesn't look by a console cool No, I haven't seen anything that looks like that's possible. Yeah Yeah Yeah Well by a next-gen console cool. I know many things that are by a console cool because they're on Wii U I was just gonna say Wii U Wii U is pretty awesome And I still think it has more high def games than Next gen. I wonder how long that'll last. That's pretty great. Hopefully forever With the new like Smash Bros coming out and stuff and those new DLC for Mario Kart. I'm pretty stoked on Wii U lately I don't know. It's it's interesting that they made a whole butt ton of money But I I don't really care that much because it's not on PC at least yet It's kind of what are you interested for coming to PC? Is that a game? I am and I think it's completely because of all the history with Halo Yeah, like I fell off kind of at three But one and two were huge like two that was when I was going very small school in the states and The school was very tech focused and so we all had land connections in our room Which was kind of a bigger deal because it was 2006 and we all plugged in a lot of guys had xboxes And we would play halo against each other and it land incredibly well. It worked incredibly well and we had Are legit halo lands are halo 2 is huge, you know When we'd be in our dorm rooms and you know You'd kill somebody and then you'd hear them running down the hall and they'd hit you with something Like nothing ever like, you know a pillow or something You know what I mean? Like or they'd yell at you and then they run back to their room and maybe you could kill them Before they got there, you know, but there was just a lot of good warm fuzzy Feelings, you know that came from playing that game um So yeah, it kind of has me a little bit excited. I'm also kind of excitable but uh, Hopefully, you know if it comes out it could be pretty cool because the other thing is Just to keep rambling on about it. There's not a lot of pc shooters that have me really excited right now You know, there's go Um, but counter-strike will always be a thing. Yeah, hopefully and it's continuing to grow and counter-strike goes great. Check that out but there's not a lot of Like lately the games i've been playing there's really no shooters that I can really maybe i'm missing something Maybe you guys let me know in the twitch chat or maybe you can let me know but i'm not Aware of any big shooters that i'm really interested in right now because cod just like drained the killed the industry Yeah I'm wondering if someone's gonna pipe up in twitch chat and bring up a name of a shooter that I haven't really been thinking of tribes ascend yeah, but also no Right, that's something I could look into ccs get tf2. I did play tf2 when it originally came out I think you're talking more about new games. A lot of people are saying toxic. That's a good point. Uh, Toxic, I don't think it's much about out yet though I knew somebody would let us why is it not doing the scrolling thing? But toxic is supposed to be a pc only thing right? I can't even select the chat to google search it right now It's uh, it's not spelled right though. I talked to her on a previous stream. I know I have it's yeah, it's it's spelled weird It's someone else say it right Warframe not into warframe played that wasn't super stoked. I haven't heard of toxic. That's definitely something. It's so hard to read It's going so quickly and it's not doing the scroll log thing for some reason to x I kk, I think I saw that to x ikk You got that you got that backwards a little bit to x I kk There we go, okay Now I think this is like a pc only i'm actually pretty stoked for this I can't believe I didn't think about this. I talked about it on a stream earlier It's my favorite thing about their trailer is they talk about all the things. It's not there's no like leveling system There's no none of that crap and then they're like Free to play and i'm like, oh god and then not Oh, yeah I was so happy I was so happy. Oh man. It was so good. I remember that stream now because I was watching the trailer Uh, yeah, i'm on you'll you'll be able to you don't even really need the music to be completely honest So you can check that out and maybe i'll move on but this is actually a super cool trailer Yeah by reactor. They like spelling things all craziness back to its roots. It's actually pretty cool So it's it looks kind of unreal No, yeah No classes no leveling system like all this kind of stuff and it's nice because it's a trailer for a game where they're like We don't have all this junk instead of look we have all this junk It's like it kind of looks like halo one and two the feel like you were saying unreal. Yeah, it's kind of Yeah, I see the halo one and two stuff Not exactly obviously but yeah, no reload. I actually think that's super cool No, I know we're not showing this on stream. I'm sorry guys. It's on the wrong Thank you to those who threw that in the chat because again, this is something I just wasn't aware of Yeah, I totally forgot. Yeah fraglex is 1999. I thought that was cool double jumps dodge and double jumps super cool yet again I'm okay with the vehicle stuff. I'm sure they'll have uh levels without vehicle stuff like this one probably yeah, which again You guys can't see I'm sorry. Apparently the toxic site went down Good work, everyone Well done Fantastic, you gotta go back to everyone to see the free to play not thing. Okay, it's at the very end But either way, I was pretty stoked for that actually Luke are you going to iraq? Nope I don't think i'm gonna have any tech conventions there for a while. I saw that in the twitch chat I was I was clicking back to the dock and I was just like I feel like I need to address this one I don't know if there's maybe a rumor going around or something, but no um Windows 9 screenshots have leaked and they look pretty much exactly like we kind of thought they looked Now are you excited for windows 9? I am because it's not windows 8 um Which I know that's super but it's also the second like that's my was good, right? Yeah Should we even? The the word after that was not good. Linus likes it because he's crazy balls Uh linus liked it because he had like 24 gigs of ram and the fact that it was super inefficient didn't matter Because he's like I have a lot of ram so it should be okay for everyone I'm like, that's not how that works if he went down to four because he knows the difference um He might uh Seven I like seven seven was great and then i'm not a huge fan of eight at all Not a huge fan of eight either. I think there's definitely some improvements. There's stuff like every once in a while I'm like, oh man that file transfer is so cool. It is the file transfer is cool like task managers task managers Fantastic if you could take windows 7 give me that transfer and give me the task manager performance windows 8.1 actually performs better in games than windows 7 does True, there's take those three Attach those to windows 7. He's super stoked. I'm happy for a decade like I and then the next thing is I just don't Like how it looks which brings us to windows 9. I don't really like the blocky style squares the rectangles. I don't Windows 7 looks really good. Look at this start button down in the corner. Ooh Yeah, it's a circle It's like they made a square image and put a circle in the middle and then had a transparent background Whoa groundbreaking instead of putting a big color on the screen and then putting a white block for whatever your icon is for Everything. Why are you doing that? Stop? It doesn't no go away. I don't know this might not be shared for everyone It's an aesthetic thing. So there's definitely people out there. They're gonna like it And that's just me, but there's some cool stuff. I don't actually mind the new start menu I'm hoping that it has a few different things I'm hoping one that there is an option to get rid of the metro style-y stuff on the right Even though I will leave it on if you're able to custom configure everything that's there Which I'm sure you're able to because it would be cool to be able to put different games and stuff, especially if games mainly mainly games And not like their games app But individual games would have these different size block icons that you could utilize Because that could be pretty cool Especially if like the main game that you play if you wanted the wide landscape boat mode button for it And it had like a really cool looking Metro button or if you could pick what is the image for that button, right? If you can upload your own or screenshot your own and crop it and then put it on which that might even be a thing Because I think that could be pretty cool. It could be pretty cool. I don't necessarily mind that something I stole from you, which I'm not even sure if you do still but is no icons on your desk. Yeah, I do that It's sweet. Yeah, it looks so cool I can't even it was so long ago that I was like your icons are gone and I was a little confused But it was beautiful at the same time And then I completely adopted that and I still do that today So like you were saying if you could have that as you can see on well, you can't see my hand here But if you could change those icons out You could have your beautiful desktop background with your beautiful monitor that you paid a bunch of money for And everything just looks great And then when you open your start menu, you can have all the icons you want But they can still look really cool because if you if you do all the pictures you want for the for the again I'm gonna say games But I just the reason why I'm saying games isn't necessarily just because we're gamers But it's because I feel like you get a lot of really cool artwork. Yeah, so I think it makes sense I'm excited. I think it'll do pretty well I'm just looking at the chat There seems to be a lot of people who do like windows 8 and I don't hate windows 8 but there's some things I don't really appreciate for me. It's like the deeply rooted permission stuff. Yeah And I know you can get around A lot of the start menu E problems, which is why I haven't brought that up by installing on start meetings and stuff Which you should not have to do for one But I find whenever I use windows 8 for an extended period of time no matter what I do something always creeps through Something always creep through and mess with me I know I know Taron's system has serious issues because he's running dual monitors, which should not be a thing. I don't like this Yeah, the the the the like high lady pop-up stuff, which you can make it go away But then sometimes it's frustrating again. The search is just craptastic I don't know. I'm not like the windows 7 search was completely superior Yeah, I for at least how I use it The windows 7 search I felt was a lot better. Yeah Native arrow is good. That's happy to see I mean, I'm happy to see that Yeah, I don't know not a ton of information just some random like screenshot leaks I know Microsoft has not commented yet Um, let me see. I'm pretty excited for it though. Yeah, there's there's still not uh, finalized the verge says that the screenshots are genuine So honestly, they probably are That new search button thing just just to the right of start There's like a magnifying glass search button thing despite there being a search thing on the start So i'm not sure what that's there for I guess we'll see you later and Microsoft is doing a great job So I won't be saying I was just saying I'm I'm pretty excited for windows 9. Yeah I think a lot of things can come together to make a really great operating system again again Just like we did with windows 8 probably not immediately at launch But a little bit afterwards we'll do performance benchmarks because that's one really big thing with windows 8 is you get better system performance Especially when playing games. It's like a huge Awesome benefit. Yeah, definitely. Um, here's an interesting article that i'm not really sure what I feel about Including with the guy who posted its name because This was posted by anal powder I was just gonna call him uh, butt powder but butt powder ap When I was casting some starcraft there was a lot of people who were like, oh my god, I'm gonna do this I'm gonna do this with butt powder ap when I was casting some starcraft. There was an individual named um, pooh T. O. O great starcraft player. I remember that intelligent person Why would he name himself that I don't know but we would refuse uh, the guy I was casting with him myself We would absolutely refuse to call him that so we'd come up with An absolute abundance of ways to refer to him Um, but yeah, we just refused so we can you can do that with four members, too You know, you could change it up as much as you want. I'm gonna call him baby powder access point access point Because ap I like it. I like it. You are now named access point So access point on the forum. Anyways, the gtx 980 will not beat gforce gtx 780ti This was on kit guru and that's actually all i'm really going to show that screen because it's not helpful to you guys Yeah, that because it's all text Um, and apparently what's going on here is the gm 204 Or chip is not supposed to replace or outperform gk 110 necessarily So cards like 780ti and titan black Should apparently not Outperform a 980 because it's not supposed to replace those ones. It's more there to replace gk 104 which is I guess Maybe but all this really means is that when they launch with their flagship of 980 And then tear down a little bit. We're just gonna have to wait even longer for them to release like 980ti And then that one will be faster than the 780ti, I guess it's a little bit weird again, we're getting swamped in not very good Graphics card naming schemes. Why is that a thing? Could that just not be a thing? Can we just like write a letter with a pen and like paper and an envelope? You know those letter things that we can we write a letter and be like, please stop. I wonder if that would work hp Stop just I wonder if that would work for net neutrality if we wrote physical letters. We're like, hey, can you read this? Maybe you can't read emails because your internet's so bad because you think broadband at point four point five megabits per sec Or megabytes per second is a thing. I don't know. That's of course reading emails on that is fine I just feel like naming shouldn't be hard. No, like I just I don't know if if I don't know Also, the cards are said to have four gigabytes of gdr5, which is not necessarily higher than certain other cards But other later versions like custom cooler featured cards should have eight gigabytes Maybe we're expecting that would be an option. So it's not super surprising rumors Just kind of disappointing because we're all hoping for that flagship card to just crush everything right its path and move on So it's it's possible that it will not again though Nothing's released and we have no official benchmarking numbers So let's all just kind of hold tight and wait because that makes the most sense in my opinion Yeah, and then we will see what happens next up I keep on going to reach to change what screen i'm on before i've opened the correct Screen next up is a cursed entity talking about how the gtx 770 will be have a reduced price lots of nvidia news this week But this is actually kind of amd news at the same time because they're reducing this price for it to compete with the 285 because the 760 uh Kind of lost and that was its direct competition So I think they're dropping the 770 to try and make it look more attractive for people looking at that price point I believe it is still like 25 more Roughly the same price as factory overclock 285. So not reference ones Uh, it's it's about 25 dollars american more expensive than the cheapest 285 uh Interesting, I don't know. I'm not surprised at all Nvidia seems to be doing this and this actually ties into the talk earlier where we were saying Even if we didn't want to switch to verizon It still would have been better that they came into canada because competition Nvidia would not have dropped this price if it wasn't for the 285 coming in and actually doing quite well Yeah, 285 didn't come in and look very attractive for people wanting to buy graphics cards Nvidia wouldn't have dropped the price of the 770 because all they're trying to do is They saw the possibility of a surge of people no longer buying their graphics cards and they were like hey You should probably buy our graphics cards because look. Oh my god. They're cheaper now Yeah, and they wouldn't have done that if it wasn't for 285 coming in and stomping. No, of course not. Yeah um Yeah, that's again. That's about it There's not a ton of in-depth stuff for the graphics card news this week, but I don't know still still interesting It's another as if we needed more of them Some reference as to why competition is good the next article that we have we're looking at the doc again Which is fantastic. The next article that we have is uh by victoria's secret And this is the article that we're talking about. This is an amazing forum post Yeah, what kind of started me on that launch of you guys are doing a fantastic job Um, this one started so if you scroll with me, yeah, we're gonna look at the sizes here iphone 5s 5s sporting a four inch screen. I know my grandfather was up visiting for a little bit. He's got a 5s It really felt tiny. It felt small miniscule. Maybe I guess you could say Apple realized this and kind of i'm kind of a hater Um, the iphone 6 will now have a 4.7 inch screen and the plus will come out with a 5.5 inch screen Um, so they're going big. I found it quite interesting that they didn't even have an option at all For a four inch screen, which would have parred to their previous phone, especially with how Jobs always used to talk about offering the like the I don't remember what he called that size, but like what he kind of thought was the best the optimal They're going completely away Yeah, from what he said they were going to do. They would never release a budget iphone iphone 5c came out Very quickly. They would never release a tablet I believe he stated what size the ipad mini is smaller than that Is smaller than that. So they're actually going away from a lot of things that he said they would do Well, we'll see how it plays out for them in the long run Because you look at the history of apple basically what i'm gonna guess not well Yeah, it could it could get worse for them. Like there's silly things like um, I think you can see it on screen right now We're seeing that the iphone is getting thinner. Oh god, which I don't believe even i'll find the camera at my At my fire hall, there's a guy who has every mac device on the planet. His whole ecosystem is Is mac he had the 3gs the 4 the 4s the 5 the 5s will now have the 6 plus. Um, he's confirmed with me No one cares about the thinness of this phone. No one does what they do care about is the battery Which they instead of you know, keeping the phone at a 7.6 millimeter Which I can't tell you what half a millimeter is. I can't do that canadian school. I can't do that with my fingers It's too small. Um Where's the battery should have been improved is what is what i'm trying to say Yeah, there's what there this is the picture that I liked. No, it wasn't He has one in there's a better one. This post is so good that there's too much information Uh, it's not in the watch stuff. So i'll jump back up to here. You can see a big bump on the camera I'm gonna circle with my mouse right now Big old bump and what a ton of people have been saying This is we're not the first people to say this at all Is they should have just left the phone a little bit thicker and not had a freaking bump on the camera and had a bigger battery How did you not think of these things? I know why because you don't have jobs anymore. What are you doing? My this is going to be a little odd comment, but if it's laying down flat How is that bump going to awkwardly affect how it sits? Also, if it moves across like a table if there's something to catch where it would be sliding Something, you know flat will it catch will that become a problem will become a possibly be good for a fragile point Well, i'm assuming now I don't know and I probably should have looked into this that they're gonna have like uh bumper style cases Which i'm sure the case is well with the camera I'm sure the cases will have to Coordinate for it But a big thing is I know you've said that you don't like cases on your phone No, like one of your big problems with and we forgot to actually talk about the actual how this the The note 4 is constructed. Yeah, you're a really big fan of how it's made You solid you really hated the backs on the old samsung phone horrible, right? Personally, I don't really care that much because if I grab my phone i'm pretty much always going to have one of these guys on it Yeah, I don't have my phone on me, but I pretty much never have a case on it But it's just it's an excellent and we don't actually differ on that much But that's just one of the random things that we differ on But it makes a difference how your phone is going to fit especially with a premium device Yeah, it matters how your phone is going to fit without a case without that extra you know protection it needs to function on its own so people like luke and And people like yourself can I know experience? How's that gonna work? Because and I was really excited when I saw this video because I was like yay He agrees with me Uh, but marcus brownlee released a video on why he doesn't use a case on his phone So if he's releasing that video that automatically means that a whole bunch of people are going to be doing it because yeah A lot of people follow him which is fantastic because he's really good. Yeah, he does um, but you can't just I don't know. It seems like such a crap compromise And not something that would have been done if steve jobs was still there to lead the ship I I just make it that what was it 0.5? I could be wrong at a scroll back up here to the num these 0.5 millimeters like you know take it up To that slightly slightly larger thickness that no one cares about And insert a better battery, you know, just grab grab some more milliamps This is the like improve your biggest conversation that goes around right now with smartphones and even smart watches is battery Batteries and smart watches is huge. We're going to talk about the 360 in a minute or two here First we'll talk about the apple watch. I almost said iWatch Batteries are a huge deal batteries are what's holding back the entire industry. You could put an i7 in your phone. You can't power it You know batteries i'll stop my rant right there, but batteries are the issue one of my favorite things i'm trying to find it right now Here it is, yeah Uh, I like his commentary victorious's secret commentary through this amazing post. Uh, oh shit It's about to go down surface wearing. Um, I think and then it's like one more thing which you had an apple conference. So Just so you know, we're not done yet Because they say one more thing every single time. He's like watch. I mean con Uh, no, I mean watch uh Awesome. I love his commentary through this. It's fantastic I I really like what uh brown ninja and victorious secret have been doing making their posts very much their own um Their watch looks super boring except for the band which is awesome But then again the actual watch is like not interesting at all um, i've heard tell that the 18 karat gold version is going to be like 1600 or 1700 or something you're buying an 18 karat gold version apple watch. You're probably not watching this Let's just be serious. Yeah, and you probably don't care that it's that expensive but still no, um, they they they do Other than the ridiculous things that are potentially on your screen with the icons. They do look pretty cool Um because of the band again and all the different customizable options you can have with the band They're nailing the band which I believe other smartwatches aren't yes necessarily, but they're nailing the band Especially the qualcomm talk they didn't nail the band on that one, but they're not necessarily the actual this like weird astral storm of icon bubbles that you have to like zoom in on with your side dial Excuse me. What the heck is that? It moved him to hiccups. It did. That's how amazing that was What the heck is that what is going on? They're saying that it's it's not it's not big enough of a screen to properly do like pinch and Whatever un-pinch is what is this? the Naming it's un-pinch. Okay It's not big enough to do that properly when don't don't don't the other I watch is actually get a right eye watches don't the other Smartwatches get around that is not like those I'm gonna segue a little bit I sound like those uh the the the NFL guys that called they're calling all the surface They put like 440 million dollars got a 400 million dollar Contracts to to show off the Microsoft surface and then the announcers called them iPad then they keep calling them iPads Imagine you were the Microsoft rep I would be so cheesed How can you not be cheese there? They're literally advertising for their opponents after they put in a ton of money And if you look I actually saw a picture on that same article When they go see the replay like the side of it says Microsoft surface HD and all this kind of stuff They have the naming in the appropriate spots But and even have these these coaches where if you don't follow football you won't you won't know any of the names But that's totally fine. They have these older school coaches using them It's why and actually using them on the side not just productly like they're actually using them It's kind of a big deal, and it's especially bringing advertisement To a market that might not be extremely educated on things like the surface. Yeah, and Yeah, screwed by the announcers. It's just ridiculous not even in the dock. I just I thought about it. No it's not There we go I'm never the one that controls the screen, so it's so weird for me to do it now Again the bands look really cool, but I'm just super not stoked and speaking of super not stoked Let's move on to the motor 360 because I was Like I am going to buy this and then now that people have actually been talking about it You guys were talking about on your last stream. I believe you were saying you might be yeah Because I was pretty sold on a motor 360 and a moto X and now I'm not entirely Not entirely sure if I'm still done either awkward in one week that's Tech that's why we need fluid definitions Things change in a way in a week. Yeah Speaking of you broadband jumping down here a little bit. This is Geekbench this is not what we're looking for battery life that's right where notification test What's up motor 360 Bertil nothing's up. They're dead, but they're recharging right now I am interested in like I'm hoping we get one for review not even necessarily to keep it because I want to Actually wear it and see how long it actually lasts Because and how useful you find it That's the thing I'm really cuz a watch is a fashion statement now. Can you combine that fashion statement with? You know some interesting notifications and interacting with your phone well and staying alive. That's a big thing. It's just dead on your wrist What's the point? Right sorry, I'm gonna interject you know when you said staying alive the first thing that clicked in my head was like survivability I don't know. I'm just I'm I know you guys were talking about it last week And this is completely your guys's industry, and it makes sense. I know Linus is all about and that's awesome We need people like that. I'm not sold on smartwatches yet Yeah, they have not sold me and the 360 sold me on the look yeah, and I believe we have a comment here I'm not even gonna try a shot at that calls the 360 beautiful outside ugly inside. It is beautiful on the outside It's the first one that I've even thought that the Apple watch you know usually the band is nice They're well known the band is nice. They're well known for making visually appealing to most people Products I'm not sold you know I'm just really not sold on the whole market. There's my line And I honestly if I didn't know Linus so long if I didn't work with him I probably wouldn't be sold on them either, but seeing him use it through his day to day and seeing his use case for it Makes way more sense and has me interested in it because he's not trying to see that's awesome here. He just reads it Hmm, so if he receives a text he can go like this go okay Not necessarily important don't have to deal with it right now and goes back to what he's doing another thing I read online those interesting was it's because we have the whole kind of push I figure what it's called But you remember when you know you'd put your phones in the middle of the table when you're out to eat yeah You can't pick up your phone and phone stack yeah things like that It kind of helps enable things like that because you're looking at your wrist and you're reading something you're and you're putting away without the Whole I'm bringing my phone Jack is Emergency calls yeah So if you get a call from like your mom Maybe you can break the phone stack game if you get a call from your buddy Then you can be like I can't pick it up right and that makes more sense But just the idea of keeping your phone in your pocket a little bit more and trying to get away from us That's exactly because I feel like I get a lot of messages like emails and whatnot all the time And I'm constantly checking my phone, but a lot of time it's like oh, I went to another convention and I had to sign up for my badge and you have to put your email in and it's another tech convention So they give it to every single vendor and host there So I'm just getting spammed like crap And it's another email that I don't need to check but it has me constantly doing this And it would be nice if I could just look at my watch and go oh it's spam and then just be like whatever I'll do with it later, and then once I get down to a desktop just select a whole bunch of things and report spam Yeah, well another thing That just kind of popped into my mind because I'm always worried about battery life is would that not inherently assist the battery life on your phone using your watch, but you are constantly pushing through with Bluetooth Hmm, that's true Yeah Interesting Unfortunate Good point. I wonder how much Bluetooth pushes compared to turning your screen on every like It's actually, right when you said that, like I know it drains because of the Bluetooth But I'm really interested now in a benchmark comparing that Hmm, because screen kills especially like we're looking at this iPhone with a 5.5 5.5 I think it is Yeah, I think 5.7 is the Note 4 and Note 3 I don't have it up anymore But that screen, that's what kills your battery you know is having that screen on Like people would complain like I use mine a ton at work for GPS It's not the GPS that's killing the battery It's that the fact that your screen is constantly on you know constantly being lit That's what kills your battery so yeah that would be an interesting little test I would like to try that because especially with like my Moto X and stuff I can pull it out without fully turning the screen on because it just has the quick notification thing So it would be interesting to compare that versus a phone where you have to unlock it to look at everything Versus using a watch and all that kind of stuff because it is Bluetooth low power or whatever Anyways, a lot of this is due to it using a 1 GHz single core Texas Instruments OMAP 3 SoC So that's straight out of the old calculators from grade 8 or is that That's pretty ghetto, that's a 2010 era processor When you're like oh 2010 wasn't that long ago When you're talking about mobile game 2010 is ancient Mom has a tablet that I looked it up it's from 2011 it feels like a dinosaur Yeah exactly In this technology that's a dinosaur It's in the same league as the iPhone 4 not even 4S or the Nexus 1 I don't even know what they were thinking What is it 48 nanometer process I don't see it in the notes 45 nanometer process which like dudes how did you think that was possibly going to be super great on battery life It's slow it's battery up to par or is not up to par scrolling performance is not great And like I know people talk about how performance benchmarks on watches are kind of dumb And honestly I kind of think they are too But if it lags when you're trying to scroll through That's a problem it's going to look bad it's going to feel uncomfortable That's not going to be good at all I just totally lost internet which is not good I lost it earlier actually but it came back I think you were saying you don't really like benchmarks on watches on wearable things like that But I think the most notable one to pay attention to is the battery life Yeah that makes sense for sure The battery life benchmark is huge Because they're not going to last for multiple days you know I think it was the Pebble that has the ink push I'm saying that wrong and I'm sure I'll be corrected about a hundred times in Twitch chat But with how it uses the ink you know the battery life is obviously incredible But with you know using full screens battery life is a big deal Another device to charge every single night on your bed stand right? Otherwise it's not useful Wait someone just said the stream is down I don't think it is though I think they're lying So I think we're fine Anyways don't worry about that I got it Yeah he's the only one that said it so I think we're totally fine Should be good Someone said next topic time though they are right about that Yeah okay so let's move on to We've been jumping around so much I know that's actually kind of a problem We could talk about Nvidia starts a legal battle with Samsung and Qualcomm over patent infringement See I really think we talked about this last week Did we? It says last week never covered but I'm like pretty freaking sure we did You know I might have missed it because Because I remember Linus and I were talking about how Nvidia seems really big in our industry But compared to Samsung and Qualcomm they are a very small man They are definitely and reading through the posts on the We won't beat this one up just in case you did do it last week And I always watch the timestamps because I'm usually working at this time So I always go back and watch the YouTube timestamps But someone was saying you know Nvidia is going to crush But really Samsung is the giant in that arena Samsung is kind of a big deal And I got to say again Brown Ninja good work That screenshot is beautiful It's perfect I'll show everyone Mwaaaahhh Oh absolutely fantastic And I like how you can just drop the mic thing too It's just pretty funny Yeah I don't know that's going to be an interesting battle for them Because it is not going to be an easy battle for them at all Those are two really big players But they do seem to be in the right But again it's a kind of messed up system So sometimes it doesn't matter if you're in the right It matters that you have a super awesome lawyer So I don't know we'll see Money and your lawyers matter more than anything Although again to refer to the amazing posts on your forum for way too many times Which will win the titan or the dragon Just things like that it's just really funny Right it makes it personal It makes it cool to watch so thanks a lot I believe we had something interesting I can't find it in rapid fire Ahhhh I feel like we're missing something Right the Samsung gear blank Which is supposed to be a rival for Google Glass Because we totally need those right now Is Google Glass dead or what? As far as I know Did I tell you I tried it and just was not impressed I remember you saying that Linus grabbed it and was like oh yeah I'm going to do one of our iSwitched episode things And try it out for like a month and see how well it goes And then I think he lasted two days And just ditched it entirely because it's just not good I saw one guy at PAX with one Seven Force are just kind of standing I remember because I saw him as well Him that one person The individual out of what 75,000 And you know he's wearing it just because people are like oh cool Again I didn't click on it And then I went to go switch screens Now I gotta go back Click on this So yeah if they're filing for patents with these good luck bro It looks like safety glasses Yeah yeah And I like the interest This is the weirdest thing to pull out of this But did you prepare what I said last time? It's just so like I don't know I never read that It just seems so direct and forceful I guess they like Did you prepare the chicken salad sandwich? They could have gone with something else Maybe that's what he means by what I said last time Maybe they were trying to make sure that they didn't offend anyone ever But it's just weird And like the typing with a hand thing is cool I'm not sure You have to see how it's implemented Obviously that's something you're going to have to use before you can really You know This is one of our rapid fire topics So we don't have a ton of research on this one What I'm super stoked for though is the What is it the Microsoft headset or was it the Intel headset? I think it was the Intel headset Let me look it up real quick I'm going to turn my screen on to not looking at what's on my screen Because that's cool and stuff And then go to Intel Jarvis headset Yeah the Intel Jarvis headset looks so cool But then there hasn't been kind of anything about it at all This one is not There we go You can see in that picture So I'll share my screen again Thanks for the pivot Yep So you can see in this picture it's not really It's not like a heads up display on his glasses It just kind of wraps around his ear And it's much more focused around being Jarvis instead of Which is amazing How freaking cool could that be? Yeah But part of the idea is local recording and local analytics of what you said Instead of the horrible Like it's cool but still horrible Okay Google now blink Blah blah blah blah blah blah Yeah that's It sits waiting waiting waiting Because it's sent out to a server then it has to figure out what you said Then it has to send commands back That being said it's incredible that the whole process happens Yes But we need to step forward It needs to be local on the phone It needs therefore being way quicker way more efficient not using your data plan You know we're talking about cell phones and our plans and how we pay for them and all that kind of stuff It's still using your data Might be a micro amount of data But there's those guys out there with a 250 megabyte monthly plan I have 500 megabytes You have 500 megabytes It's horrible So if I forget to turn on Wi-Fi and I go home one night And I accidentally watch like a YouTube video I'm screwed You're in a lot of trouble Yeah so those little micro we could call them transactions micro transactions of data matter Right it matters So it's a big deal If you could have that local on your phone it would be so much quicker so much more efficient And also if you're not in you know if you're out in a forest Like we were shooting you know way out in the middle of a forest shooting this new movie And the data your data didn't work You can't do any of that stuff without data period right So it's just over And if you've got Jarvis in your ear It's not over It could still work unless he has to Google things and then it won't work Yeah Which would be unfortunate Either way guys I believe that is it for the show this week I'm gonna play our intro which is exactly the same as our outro And it's gonna be awkward because I forgot to take the one overlay off And there's actually two overlays on there So it's gonna start playing and then we like drag these things off But we'll be okay Everyone will survive Awkward There we go Nope I'm dead Oh I'll carry my part of the couch We should just No what it should be is Nina stops the couch and then you just run in and pick it up I got this This is my man Awkward long pause I forgot her name That was awkward Mod 24 Mod 24 is going to be fantastic if we don't die And if we do die it will be fantastic for you But severely not fantastic for us There will be three teams competing to build a super awesome mod They will have 24 hours and there will only be one champion Whose cuisine will reign supreme Squeezer We have a really interesting mod going on on the floor right now I really want to do that Anyways hopefully you guys will tune in It's on September 18th at 6pm I'll be tuning in Come watch it should be really cool I hope it's really cool And I really want to see people in the chat I want to see if someone lasts through the whole 24 hours of mod 24 And then watches the full duration of the WAN show right afterwards Because we're apparently doing the WAN show right afterwards Because we will not miss a WAN show And then moving on we have the wonderful the beautiful lynda.com With her very good educational tools which is not necessarily what you expect after that intro If you go to lynda.com slash WAN show you can get a 7 day free trial And if you think that 7 day free trial is super duper awesome You can subscribe for I believe 25 bucks a month And you get to learn a whole bunch of stuff I know Taryn here at works learns video editing that way None of our other editors do because they're slacking off And if you are in high school and you want to learn programming Because you're going to take it in post secondary I would highly suggest taking Java little courses things on lynda.com Because that would be very very helpful Thank you guys for watching and we will see you next time Are we going to do a short after party thing? 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