 So back at Computex when Intel did that weird demo on stage where they had this like this like chilled liquid cooled 28 core overclocked Processor, I don't think anyone could figure out what exactly it was they were trying to accomplish Even Intel themselves didn't seem to know what was going on because that same CPU Although not cooled by chilled liquid was actually on display the next day With their board partners like Asus Only to be quickly yanked away, and then we haven't heard anything about it since then except for a leaked roadmap that seems to suggest that Intel is planning what appears to be a knee-jerk reaction to AMD's 32 core Threadripper 2 a 28 core based on as far as we can tell a similar platform to their existing Xeon Platinum now. I don't know what segment they're gonna target with this workstation Enthusiast people with more money than brains, but whatever it is I realized something we actually have in our hands both the 32 core Threadripper 2 and Intel Xeon Platinum 8180 which rumor has it will be very similar to the upcoming enthusiast chip albeit without overclocking so today we are gonna put them head-to-head as a preview of the ultimate heavyweight showdown of CPUs we're not sure who is going to buy and the whole thing is brought to you by video blocks Video blocks is a great subscription based resource for downloading stock footage video and more check it out at the link in the video description So while Ivan puts the finishing touch on our LGA 3647 bench over there. I'm gonna walk you through what are otherwise as Identical as we can get them test rigs so in here. We've got a Threadripper 32 core We've got a Noctua 120 millimeter tower cooler We've got a Zenith extreme motherboard with what I believe is 32 gigs of RAM 32 gigs right yeah should be and then we've got a GTX 1080 Samsung 840 Pro SSD and an RM 850i power supply now bear in mind that any results that we show you guys for this guy have to be taken with a significant grain of salt because Intel will have at least I think a couple of months to tune the Consumer version of this before you would ever be able to buy one not that most people would ever be able to buy one like This is 10 grand so we don't know how much or how little they're planning to slash the price compared to the pro one But like it ain't gonna be cheap so this guy right here has got Us same power supply same cooler sort of except. It's like a modified version that works with LGA 36 47 Thank you Noctua for sending that over We've got them both hooked up to power meters, and then it's running in a sues Z 11 pa u12 It's got the same g-force GTX 1080 founders edition And then it is of course running a Xeon platinum 8180 now the RAM This is something that could affect our results, but we had to use what's compatible with our CPU So this is DDR for 2666 ECC memory the same stuff from our six workstations one CPU project Hey, it's done here we go Is this broken This CPU what what what what what what okay adding another bolder sized grain of salt to this whole Experience is that this latest bios we just flashed No longer supports the 8180 CPU Probably if I had to guess because of its massive 205 watt TDP so we're gonna have to go back in time to another bios in order to run our comparison and Four hours later we finally have the solution you know what screw it. We're just gonna run it We're just gonna run the light of a thousand suns directly into Ivan's eyes Sorry about that anyway We're none of the bios is we tried worked and we downloaded like one of the earliest ones that should have been the same As what we had and it was corrupt right off a suit system Whatever it doesn't matter point is we're just using our dual socket board with a single CPU Where the only real consideration Performance wise is we have to make sure we use a PCI Express lot that is connected to that socket So everything's hunky-dory. This is effectively the same apples ish to apples ish comparison and We are ready to go so naturally I'm sure the first thing you guys are gonna want to see after the task manager porn 56 threads on this one 64 threads on this one is probably gonna be Cinebench right it's gotta be Cinebench boom Who will finish first Wow those are both super fast, but one of them looks a little faster One of them looks a fair bit faster well AMD is a good 20% ahead which makes sense because even though Threadripper 2's Performance per clock is lower than Intel Skylake architecture They do have a core advantage, so they have four more cores and watch this We're gonna go ahead we're gonna run the test again And we're gonna have a look at what our clock speeds are while they're going so you can see here AMD is turboing up higher when you're hitting all the cores compared to Intel So round one goes to the Threadripper 2990 WX Test number two Test number two the V-Ray benchmark from Chaos Group, so we're running the CPU benchmark here Here we go our AMD processor is pinned our Intel processor is pinned AMD is looking pretty good here too wow and Done Okay, no matter which one of these things you buy you're gonna be like going super fast and And three seconds doesn't seem like a lot of difference But three seconds out of 30 is 10% faster for Threadripper 2 This is great. Tell us more about your gear. Are you overclocking liquid cooling or anything else ingenious for getting a performance boost? Does it show that every time? Or is it just when you're like bananas? Hey Anthony you ever seen this in the V-Ray benchmark? It did it on both of these I wonder if there's some kind of a threshold clearly that's a tailored message Yeah No, we're not doing anything ingenious. Just spending lots of money so for our blender test we're going to be rendering the classroom scene and This one will probably actually take a couple minutes, so we'll come back in just a moment here. Man. That's a lot of cores. It's beautiful You can even just feel the heat coming off these things this does seem like a good opportunity to remind you guys though That this is not the actual product. This is just the closest thing that we have to it now This is cool though compared to that burn test we were running before it's turboing much higher in real-world applications Even though the usage is a hundred percent, so it looks like they might be detecting Stress testing applications and throttling down anyway, so that's interesting to know In terms of power consumption, this is one area where Intel is looking a little bit better Our Threadripper 2 machine is pulling 380 watts from the wall Remember this is before we've even touched the GPU and this is with no overclocking on either of them because our Xeon won't overclock Whereas we don't know what Intel is planning to do with the real chip that's coming and then Intel is pulling about 265 watts 265 watts It's crazy. They both feel like space heaters, you know The fans even with these fans running at full speed and these are nice fans. Oh boy. This is not Looking amazing for Intel right now Threadripper 2 already chewed through the first segment of the test and I think it's done Wow For just under five minutes for classroom Whereas Intel We're at 515 and it hasn't even finished the initial render 545 I don't think I ever thought I would see it again AMD's top of the line versus Intel's top of the line and It just being a Blowout So that concludes the productivity segment of our testing and now we're gonna do what? Neither Intel but Intel nor AMD is gonna be particularly stoked on We're gonna fire up some games. So starting with CS go Well, if CS goes anything to go by Intel looks like they're gonna have a bit better of a time when it comes to gaming with that said CS go is known to heavily favor Intel's current chips versus AMD's Zen base chips. Oh boy average frame rate 310 dot 21 Versus 297 dot 85 that doesn't seem right because this was so much higher hex I Have an alibi. Yeah, I don't know what just happened there. There's like there's no way. Okay Well take those results with even more salt than the rest of this video because there's no way that's right. That doesn't make any sense All right Our test is done We can go ahead and quit the game Okay, so these are more like the numbers we were expecting to see in CS go that brings us to our final game Shadow of the Tomb Raider how to benchmark on the same account with two PCs at once You got to do the Ethernet cable shuffle It goes like this Ah play a game Here we go Now this is closer this is really close with all these character models Intel is actually enjoying a pretty significant advantage average FPS 100 average FPS 87 so a significant advantage, but it should be noted that a Gaming advantage from one of these CPUs to the other is not particularly meaningful if you wanted to game You would run out and you would buy You know secondhand 7700 K and overclock the snot out of it. Oh right thermals We're not done yet So we already have a pretty good idea what we're gonna see here simply because the power consumption On Intel's platform was so much lower Yeah, so this is consistent with what we saw before with Intel's cores coming in about five degrees lower So there you have it guys I said it before but it bears repeating take everything you saw here with a grain of salt because we don't know what if anything Intel will change about the real product that they're supposedly coming out with I mean something like an increase to the all core boost frequencies could make a significant Difference to the results that we got today, but What it looks like for now is that for the first time in over a decade in a pure? Who's got the biggest Willy competition? 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