 feeling where you're about to go live and broadcast to like thousands of people but like you're missing something something's not quite right like every single time we host the WAN show um yeah okay i guess that that could be because there's like there's there's always the okay something's probably wrong no we did a pre-show today there's nothing wrong everything is fine but i'm not hormonal right now we didn't test any of the scenes uh that's okay most of them are the same and your laptop um uh no we tested the laptop oh we did yeah okay yeah i tested it while you weren't looking boom i test all kinds of things while you're not looking that's awkward do you test poll results while i'm not looking poll results no we're not going to get into that yet i have a whole i have a whole thing i have a whole thing on that speaking of a whole thing on stuff um hold on a second so the WAN show soundcloud i'm gonna try and find it but we actually have a WAN show podcast feed now so terran uh uh terran set it up and i don't know where the email is about it and apparently you can't just google podcasts hey uh terran can you send me the link to the soundcloud thing so i can share it with the peeps thank you soundcloud.com slash the WAN show oh we got it yep okay so guys it's soundcloud.com slash the WAN show i don't think we are quite caught up yet because we don't really have like a smooth procedure for taking the video feed which is a stupid flv file with the desynced audio and the all that kind of stuff but there you go guys all the entire history of the WAN show has been almost almost has been archived on soundcloud you can download it as a podcast listen to it in the car or wherever else people listen to podcasts i've never been much of a podcast listener myself but even almost this isn't into 2014 yet oh october 11th well hold on a second are you sure it's not just like later on or something i looked down there it went further back august 2013 july 2013 well whatever guys we'll get this we'll get this all caught up for you and everything will be all good and fine and dandy so all right let's get into our first real topic shall we oh no we have to do our introductory topics which unfortunately these guys already saw which is a real shame because we accidentally streamed while we were creating our youtube intro instead of um recording that locally and then uploading it so uh why don't we pick different highlights for the folks here right now asus has demonstrated a vram defroster feature so you're actually going to have a separate plug on your graphics card dedicated to heating up your memory which sounds bad but it actually makes sense yeah we'll explain that later also intel has a new thunderbolt controller that they are working on that should be able to derive two 4k displays off of a single connector i should be wearing my holy balls shirt not my professional unboxer shirt because that's a big deal it is actually what else we got um google is is going to be ending forcing google plus integration towards everyone and there's more details on that later yeah that's huge and then facebook has actually finally been approved to actually buy oculus so yeah that'll be a short topic but we'll talk about that later all right so without further ado intro time i really hope there's music i didn't test it all right there's music music all right so hotspot shield is one of our sponsors today hotspot shield is the fast easy and expensive way to set up a vpn you can access content that's outside of your region you can browse more privately and all that great stuff also sponsoring the show today actually our title sponsors you can see powered by sus g750jz is a sus with the as you may or may not have guessed g750jz gaming laptop so this yeah yeah well it kind of it kind of went that way the jz thing you're gonna keep me you know what's even funny is i conceded i made your joke i made a joke in the video thumbnail of the actual review of the laptop and i figured that would get you to stop making the joke nope the joke isn't played out for you the joke is just going to carry on until eternity all right well that's probably that's fine that makes me very very pleased so uh thank you asus and hotspot shield for sponsoring the show today let's get things going get into our first topic here what should we get started with why don't we start at the top let's start at the top and work our way to the bottom if you know what i mean i didn't need it if you know what i mean that was fine if you know what i mean you're all fine oh man hitting on the entire audience one step at a time so okay guys we've got a fantastic topic here this was posted by cacao day g dj day g whatever it happens to be what is that oh i see it no no it's okay this needs to be removed there we go um so this is an asus rog article that what are you doing i'm modding certain people don't worry about it keep going oh okay you can mod people i've heard of computer modding and car modding well there's body mods right body mods yeah you're like tattoos and piercing do you have any no i guess i would have known you actually probably would have at this point so there's an article on asus rog that outlines why a graphics card could ever want a separate heater module for the memory so this is called their matrix memory defroster and if you look at the page you're supporting i don't care i don't care go away internet explorer okay so it shows you a graphics card that's being cooled by presumably liquid nitrogen or okay looks like liquid nitrogen since there's a uh a canister here so being cooled by liquid nitrogen and it shows how this frost can accumulate on the back of the card now memory can suffer from certain issues like uh cold bugs in much the same way that processors can so what this does is it actually keeps the memory at a temperature that isn't so cold that it bugs out but it's still cold enough that you're going to get better overclocking out of it and it's just one less thing for pro overclockers to worry about i think my comment on this uh back when i first saw it is probably you know about as as right as anything could ever be just like anything i say i'm just kidding i can be wrong about all kinds of things in fact i was wrong about something on the show last week and i i owe an apology to someone that i was wrong about something about um gpu versus cpu actual total thermal output i was going based on temperature not based on the actual thermal output so gpus i have been informed although we're probably gonna just test it at some point even though i i believe them i believe them so gpus just have lower thermal density which means their temperatures are lower even though the thermal output is actually quite high so there you have it i can be wrong about things and i don't even remember what i'm talking about anymore right so the comment i made at the time was okay so asus has developed a feature for their rog class cards that is going to have probably thousands of people who know what it is and what it does and why it exists it's going to have maybe hundreds of people who care and then it's going to have maybe dozens of people who are actually going to use it but you know what if you you know it's easy to just throw up your hands and say okay it's impossible to innovate on graphics cards it's hard to keep trying to find ways to push the envelope and without you know guys like asus building in features like this we wouldn't have things like built-in voltage checkpoints to actually monitor the voltage of your gpu something that is a very cool diagnostic tool when you're overclocking and like very usable even if you're not doing it on too cool you can buy a multimeter for like 20 bucks at canadian tire if you're canadian or wherever you buy those things american tire walmart that's probably yeah so you can buy a multimeter on the cheap and then it can really help you diagnose whether that voltage slider is actually doing anything whether your card over volts or undervolt so all this stuff's really great so without these kinds of innovations that might seem useless one by one we wouldn't have the great graphics cards that we have today so kudos to asus for thinking outside the box on this one and i guess that's all i pretty much have to say about that what's our next topic because i'm trying to do a thing here uh sorry i was also trying to do a thing i will find a next topic though the next topic is supreme court decides on the future of tv featuring ario oh this is this is cray cray is it ario or arrow ario i would guess sure okay all right so this is actually probably the biggest topic of the day so the way that ario works is by okay by it all depends on how you word it so our original article here is from washingtonpost.com although there was another one that was actually quite helpful when i was when i was reading up on this yeah from the guardian and there was another one i was reading and another one i was reading that i mean the information about this is hard to find from an unbiased source because this is a topic that is extremely polarizing so let's start with how ario works what it does is it takes ota tv signals so these are just broadcast tv signals that anyone with you know a duck a hamster a piece of toast and most importantly an antenna and a television especially those last two yeah and then anyone with an antenna and a television can tune into these signals and watch tv so all the tv that i had when i was a kid yes so over the air television what ario does is it takes over the air television lets you subscribe rent an antenna in their array of antennas rent because it's not subscription they don't look at it so they let you rent an antenna in their antenna array rent cloud storage space and then it allows you to tune in to ota broadcasts through your internet connection and even use their um their rentable storage space as a pvr or dvr whatever video recorder without with a p with a d i don't care so what the okay so the issue here it's hard to not it's hard to not say things that are worded as if they come off negatively or positively yeah so the issue is that other broadcasters are alleging that ario is no different from cable and satellite firms that are required to pay fees to rebroadcast their shows what ario is arguing is that a private broadcast and this is this is like 40 year old rulings that they're going back to here that a private broadcast is not the same as a public broadcast and because it's an individual user accessing content that they would have otherwise had if they just got an antenna and hooked up a dvr like they're not doing anything they couldn't have otherwise done so it's a private broadcast so i don't remember if that sentence made any sense you know what guys i have slept so little this week like even less than usual and this topic is very convoluted and awkward and the topic is convoluted whereas what the broadcasters are saying is that ariel is taking copyrighted material and profiting off of it without paying anyone any fees so they're just taking money and profiting off of it and then advocacy groups for the other side are saying well hold on just a minute why should they be paying for it anyway there's already commercials on it so you guys so sort of start firing back at the broadcasters you guys are just trying to maintain your whole double dipping business model and squash a potential competitor who really all they're doing is enabling consumers to use the technology or to use the content that is already there use the technology they have to access content that is already there and already accessible to them one thing that was missing from both this washington post article and the other one that we're referring to here was actually posted by a commenter on one of the other articles i was reading about this who said well hold on a second something people are kind of missing here is that ariel only allows you to subscribe within your own catchment area so you you actually can't subscribe to ariel in you know new york if you're in florida for example you you have to subscribe like anything there are workarounds and actually that's another big thing is uh is that even on the dock i think it that hulu is shutting down yeah users if it's not just throw a note in there and we'll make sure we talk about that later but there are of course ways to circumvent it but the way that it's supposed to work is just as a way for you to access the ota content without subscribing to an expensive cable package that contains a lot of stuff that you likely don't care about so i see both sides of this one so that was the whole me struggling through the the explanation of what's going on i hope you guys kind of get it let me know if you don't post in the twitch chat if if it doesn't if what i said didn't make any sense but i'll give sort of my two cents on both sides of this on the one hand if you're creating premium content and someone is profiting off of the distribution of it they are effectively undercutting the distribution partners who are paying you and i can understand why you're going after someone who's pursuing that model one of the justices that's um i don't think they're actually going to be involved in the case but one of the one of the u.s justices that has commented on the situation said that looking through ario's business model they seem to be it seems to be structured entirely to circumvent the existing laws and that the actual the essence of what they're doing is just flat outright wrong and i'm paraphrasing a little bit here because i can't find the quote right now but i don't necessarily i see it from ario's side as well because what they're doing is just allowing people to use 21st century technology that they have and i mean quite frankly you're you're already going to be helping out your local cable provider by paying for an internet subscription anyway so they're using technology that we have to just do something that already exists and do it a little bit better one interesting thing that someone has brought up is that you can rig this up yourself yes and that's that's the whole defense here for ario is that this is something you can do yourself yeah it's just that they're making it accessible and they're charging people a convenience fee yeah now if they were if what they were doing was they were tuning into ota and then they were um and then they were like re-transmitting it over the the airwaves or if they had um a site i guess that you that you went on to and then anyone like a site like twitch.tv okay where anyone can tune into their rebroadcast that would be a public rebroadcast but the way that it's structured is that antenna you're you're renting it you're leasing it you're you're whatever i guess if you really wanted to you could buy an antenna but then you'd just be doing it yourself but like instead of buying it you are renting it and that antenna is just for you so they're not rebroadcasting it publicly i think they're gonna lose i think so too but it's a really interesting argument i think they're gonna lose but i think at the end of the day this is just gonna be whack-a-mole where someone else will find a similar loophole and the conventional media guys are just going to have to keep knocking these little guys down one at a time and something will get through i mean the thing here is that ariel has i'm sorry ariel yeah sorry i'm really tired ariel has already won a couple of cases in lower courts this is the first time it's going to the supreme court they've already won a couple they lost one they lost the most recent one so this really could go either way and i think according to the letter of the law ariel is probably right currently yes but like what i've been reading on some of what the justices have been saying is they might need to kind of fix things this can't happen because when they wrote that law it was a long time ago it was a long time ago and they didn't expect stuff like this to be able to happen so now that it can happen maybe the laws have to change which is annoying to pre-empt to like after the fact change a law i hate doing that with things like the coc on the forum and stuff because it's really annoying but but the thing about it is that laws need to adapt i mean how would you make a law about cyber crime 50 years ago when it doesn't when it doesn't exist yeah you know how so i i totally understand the issue here because the entire business model of creating this content is based on getting kickbacks from the distributors of the content i understand that but on the other hand i understand the argument that that system is fundamentally broken right now and something needs to shake it up i don't know if ariel is going to be the thing that shakes it up but what i do know is that something will have to shake it up because it's a problem i mean it's gotten to the point where i will not pay to watch a hockey game because for me to pay to watch a hockey game and i just don't watch them that's that's the solution for me because for me to pay to watch a hockey game i have to buy a cable tv subscription that includes a bunch of crap i don't care about and i have to pay a whole whack ton of money for it and i'm kind of sitting here going no i refuse i won't do it for big events like uh the super bowl and all that kind of stuff we just we all my friends pack up because we all don't have the cable tv none of us and we all go to my parents well it's funny because everyone talks about cord cutters but there's a whole other the like the entire the group of people my age are i heard the term cord nevers and i really liked it because the only time i have ever had a cable tv subscription that i've well i was gonna say that i have paid for was when they gave me a free trial with my internet that i didn't pay for and then cancelled as soon as i had to pay for it i never even took the free trial it was kind of handy i don't even want it was playoffs that makes sense i took the free trial and i was like oh that's great by the time this is over i won't have any hockey to watch anyway yeah exactly my thing was i was scared because i just assumed that after the free trial it was just going to start billing me yeah it does yeah and i was going to school at the time and i was like i'm gonna forget about this and i'm gonna get a bill and i'm not gonna be able to afford it it's gonna be bad now i just i just set up a google calendar reminder and then i just i the shaw office is actually between mine and my in-law's house so i just grabbed the box dropped it off there i'm like yeah we're done like do you still want your internet yeah yeah i'm good with the internet thanks for the trial though so i mean for me the fundamental problem here is that the is that the providers the cable providers in particular can't decide how they want this to work okay when it comes to tv they want us to pay for a large all you can eat packages and then just give us whatever we whatever we could possibly want and then when it comes to cell phone and internet by the way in canada anyway and i know in a lot of places there's a lot of overlap between tv cell phone and internet so so when it comes to cell phone and internet oh well hold on a second we want more of a pay as you go type model here and you you pay for the things you use and i'm kind of sitting here going okay you know what i get it either way okay you want it you want to package things you want to have a flat rate sort of fee okay i get it i won't i'm not going to subscribe because i don't care about that stuff but i understand your point okay you want me to pay per usage because there's a certain amount of congestion on a network or whatever else you want to minimize that i get that but you got to make up your mind you can't be like oh well when it suits us you can pay as you go and when it doesn't suit us then we want you to take the whole the whole thing you got to give me options here because that just that does not that does not fly for me because i would have no problem paying for tv if i could say okay i want sports net tsn and like i don't know cartoon network that's like it i remember when when my parents were actually somewhat interested in getting a cable connection way back in the day we went through the show catalog and i was like i want that one and maybe that one and then i'm done yeah so i don't care about like any of that and my dad my brother and i had overlaps on all of those and then that was about it right and you guys never did end up getting one did you i think we had one while my grandpa was here and then i think it was gone right very shortly after and then that's about it all right so why don't we talk about your back door here oh wow it's not my back door well it's a back door it's many people's back doors all right because that makes it better so um a security researcher has found that there was a back door dsl routers that was found a little while ago i think like a month ago or something and then there was a patch you should talk about what the back door does so the back door allows you to i was getting into that after talking about the cover up and then i was going to tell them what that was so essentially there was there was then a patch which fixed the problem the same guy then found that the patch was just kind of a cover-up and it couldn't be removed very easily so what it does is allows you administrative access to the router so all administrative controls you can control so gg router you can flash lights you can do you can see packets you can do all that kind of stuff it's pretty aggressive the way that the secret is removed is just literally by sending a knock that knock though is in an ethernet packet so like a raw data ethernet packet so it can only be sent from inside the network or from an isp so this scares people because of nsa's level stuff um it's on 25 route 24 models of different routers it has been found on so far ranging from i believe like link sis and cisco so both levels there and netgear different routers but then this is one guy so i fully expect it could be more than that because the problem is actually based around a piece of firmware that they all share um yeah it gives it it gives them root shell access for people that knows what that really means so this is kind of scary just because everything in this form is scary right now um because of like what the nsa was doing what were they up to last week right heart bleed so it's just like every single week it's just like one more terrible thing um oh i forgot diamond diamond is also another brand that's having a problem with them as well that's actually pretty much it so there you go guys we don't have a solution for you or anything no because it has to be fixed unless someone's going to make their own firmware but i don't even know if these routers are susceptible to that um it's it's it's not going to be fixed because they obviously don't want to if they just made a cover up um so yeah i guess i guess we'll see where this goes but all we can really do is just pay attention and hope that it goes away and check to see if your router is on that list so you know you have to if you have to change something does it sound better you're a little quiet okay people are people are asking for you to be louder oh the mic's in the shot now if you it's it's uh the source was from ours technica so if you want to see those routers and other stuff go to the ours technica article easter egg dsl router patch merely hides back door instead of closing it you'll find that article and then you can find other stuff out to see if your router is a problem or not absolutely fantastic so speaking of things that are absolutely fantastic assumptions about the one plus one very few people have actually had their hands on this incredibly confusingly named phone i mean what the heck so the company is one plus and then the phone is called the one and it absolutely baffles me as much as i as i hate to see uh needless lawsuits between companies like i just it drives me crazy it baffles me that they can get away with this did is is htc's the one or is just one it's just one it's the htc1 can we stop naming things one like they named their entire even company one plus yeah so like i and anyway anyway so specs have been revealed um nickname it the two no because i already call my htc1 i made the two but this is one plus one breathing intensifies you're freaking me out here i don't know what to do anyway so it's going to arrive in mid-may right now you actually can't pre-order it in the same way that you could pre-order a normal phone and they're doing a weird invite based system but the full specs are out there it uses a qualcomm snapdragon 801 it's got four crate 400 cores they're clocked at 2.5 giga hertz making it the fastest phone on the market it uses an adreno 330 gpu it's got a 1920 by 1080 screen it's a five and a half inch screen so this is quite a large phone yep like coming in on phablet territory there it's got 401 pixels per inch in terms of its pixel density it's got a five megapixel front camera with a 13 megapixel rear camera it's available in 16 gig or 64 gig configurations they've all got three gigs of ram and it's 299 for the 16 gig and a mere 349 for a 64 gig phone very cool yeah that's a big deal because i've been upset about this for a long time how much cheaper flash storage has gotten and yet how we're stuck with the same price points on these phones with the same capacity as like four years ago and like this is fantastic but that price jump of 50 bucks is they're still making money off that which is like that's still fantastic though i'm happy to pay that compared to other phones where it's like you get eight more gigabytes will take a hundred dollars so the phone runs on cyanogen mod it has an anodized faux metal rim and swappable backplate it's going to be manufactured in the same factory as opo phones it packs triple noise canceling microphones for allegedly superb call quality and pack stereo speakers similar to htc's one series however one extra thing is the the back is supposed to be removable and it's supposed to be able to customize your back similarly to the the moto x customize your own x style thing where you can get like wooden styled ones and all these other styled ones as well that's cool yeah and then this is this is this is a marketing disaster in my mind so they're running a they're running a never settle campaign called talking about trademarks smash your phone i know right like amd does that man smash your phone okay so what they're saying is you can buy the one plus one for a dollar by applying to be one of the first to own it so you'll also be one of the first to have it okay so you apply you stand out so they're going to choose a hundred applicants to be the smashers smash and share share a video of your smash on youtube and a one plus one will be yours you will get a 16 gig silk white and three invites for other people to purchase the phone something that's actually a pretty hot item right now people people want to buy these phones now one sort of challenge here and i okay i see they don't have their uh there we go there's a list of the qualifying phones which i can't find right now i think if you click on i'll smash my right there ah there we go yeah there you go there we go so there's a list of the qualifying smashable phones so a few problems here problem number one is that the vast majority of those smashable phones can probably be traded in for anywhere from two to three hundred dollars so you could do the um environmentally and just generally responsible thing and trade in your phone and then just buy one number two actually is is a sort of part of that last thing i just said is the environmental impact of smashing phones i mean some of the chemicals that that are in phone screens phone batteries are things that should really be disposed of safely not just if you're going to do this like at the very least go remove the back remove the battery put the backpack on so no one can tell and then smash it on the other hand you know iphone 5 is on the list so it's not like you can remove the battery from that like this is this is like really brutal yeah um so that to me just smacks of irresponsibility and then on top of that we've had this issue a number of times where we announce a contest and people just don't listen completely don't read people can't listen for 20 seconds like at all for example the htc1 m8 giveaway we've got two phones i am announcing the winners during this show by the way the htc1 m8 giveaway that we did i said click the link in the video description there are instructions there the number of people who posted their favorite thing about the htc1 m8 under the video was like in the hundreds and i'm like you guys you you didn't you didn't listen you're not entered in the giveaway and i'm sorry i mean it's great that you posted that it actually generated a lot of great discussion and maybe some people double posted i know some people did but guys you're not in the giveaway you got to pay attention so here we go example of not paying attention being a big problem ahead of the contest people are already smashing their phones this is an article on android authority where they complain about some of the same things that i really didn't like about this whole contest so this was this was an android authorities article where apparently one of these guys here didn't even fully understand what product was being given away and thought that it was actually an htc1 so here this guy i don't know if this was the one or not but this is painful to watch because unless one plus decides to do some some pr you know fixing here and give phones to the people who already smashed them before they knew they were entered this guy just wrecked a perfectly good iphone and it's dead now and he's not getting a one plus one so wow yeah no no okay yeah not recoverable no no this will not be being used anymore at first i was like uh it's not that hard to replace iphone screens in the back it's probably nope snap a nap kind of brutal i was looking at this earlier um and i wouldn't be surprised if a massive amount of the entrants are z10s you can get those a lot cheaper than the rest of the phones and because you don't have to you don't have to smash your phone first yeah just making sure people got that part um people entering could say that they have one and then go out and buy one and smash it if they get selected it's not that that's a good thing yeah like i fully suspect a lot of people are going to do that though which is like okay that's also not the point at all of what they're trying to do so their whole pr thing is also not going to work because it's just a whole bunch of people going oh well i don't have to smash my phone i can retire it to my mom or do whatever and get someone else's or it's going to be a lot of phones that don't work right already and then they're going to smash them and then throw them away i don't know so those should still be disposed of environment in an environmentally friendly manner all right so this was posted by jump petit jump whatever that guy um intel is allegedly working on a new thunderbolt to controller chip to drive two 4k displays at the same time so it will use pci express gen three which means that hopefully by the time this rolls out amd and nvidia will be like comfortable enough with the level of performance that thunderbolt is delivering to give us drivers to enable external gpus because you can already hook up a graphics card on a pci express to thunderbolt bridge that that should work it's amd and nvidia not providing a driver that is causing it to not work and i don't know the reasons they're not providing a driver there could be very good reasons but hopefully when this happens we'll get that what we'll definitely get is 40 gigabit per second bandwidth and enough to like i said to drive two 4k displays off of a single cable i mean that's one of the reasons probably why apple has six thunderbolt 2 connectors on the mac pro because it's not uncommon for a creative professional to have two usually two and often three or even more displays connected so even though we joke about the mac pro and we go oh that's all the external expansion it has and and there's that there's that awesome picture of of the then and now with the old mac pro in the tower and the new mac pro with all the like with like the cd drive like connected externally and all the crap piled around it we joke about that but a big part of the reason is actually well you just need to be able to drive displays off the thing so right now you can't do a single 4k display yet off of a thunderbolt connector or so right you can sorry you can do only a single 4k display off of a thunderbolt connector and with 4k coming down in price so quickly and so dramatically running multiple 4k displays it's going to be a thing really soon one of the coolest things too is its ability to drive up to 100 watts of power i know that's solid so get this i mean again like the notebooks of the future right where you take i mean this has thunderbolt like not thunderbolt 40 gigabit per second charges off of something so the way this is going to work guys is you're going to plug into your your thunderbolt enabled monitor that also has a thunderbolt you know external gpu slot that also has a thunderbolt everything else you're going to need you're going to plug your laptop one cable your laptop will be charging it will be running it will be outputting to the display and like all your other peripherals mind-blown they need to start calling these things really cool names like outline ridge out the chip i actually had a call with someone from intel today and i found out how intel does their code names really yeah that's actually really cool yeah so um sometimes and like there's no there's no hard and fast way but he gave me two scenarios so sometimes they the the project lead whoever owns the project literally picks from a list of code names and goes that one seems pretty neat and assigns it do you know how devil's canyon was done no there's a group within intel that puts on i believe it's land fest is the events that they work on and the way that the whole land fest project works i had no idea and this is really cool is that intel employees who are passionate about gaming donate their time really and then intel pays but not the employees they pay to a charity of the choice of the employees donating their time to the project so intel is ultimately still paying for all the land fest stuff but it's the employees who are truly passionate about it driving it and then intel is turning that into a charitable donation so i thought that was really anyway that is really cool so the way that devil's canyon the alleged rumored upcoming intel uh cpu refresh was named was by polling those guys that's kind of cool so they gave them a bunch of options they were like what do you think is like the coolest one for an enthusiast grade product and they're like overwhelmingly devil's canyon devil's canyon and i was like oh that sounds badass yeah so like that's cool i think that's fantastic it's like alpine ridge which sounds like a body wash or like maybe a sports refresher energy drink yeah yeah could be a drink it could be like um it could be like ski goggles yeah like i could see it being a piece of apparel definitely but why not like thor thor well i think there's issues there with marvel but it's a greek that's true you shouldn't be able to you're probably not wrong yeah that's stupid that you're probably not wrong yeah i don't like that i mean they wouldn't like it no i'm sure not isn't it like sony owns the rights to mutant or something no i don't i don't remember what it is there's like some super common word and it's part of the reason why spider-man kept you at whatever so one issue here is that the powered thunderbolt 3 i guess whatever we're going to call it the 40 gigabit per second thunderbolt connector would actually have to be a different connector unfortunately but there'll probably be some kind of an adapter system i mean the thing about pci express which is what thunderbolt is based on is that it is forwards and backwards compatible so as long as you had a physical adapter your older thunderbolt gear should still be okay something that will be good news to folks who have heavily invested in thunderbolt because a lot of stuff is not cheap why why i still don't quite understand why people buy thunderbolt gear it's so much more expensive i know but you're saying that's why they buy it no i'm like agreeing with you being like yeah i don't know i don't get it we don't use anything that's thunderbolt we actually do own one thunderbolt piece of gear what thing we didn't pay for it though oh um we have an external drive from western digital oh yeah that's like a dual drive drive and uh it's kind of cool actually yeah but we didn't pay for that that's true we did not i don't know we own two pieces we have a hard drive dock also we didn't pay for okay i'll let you handle this one this one's really short but has virtuix managed to make themselves relevant again uh no okay this isn't going to consumers at least right away um so that's why it's like what um anyways there's a there's a modif modify modification kit thing for the virtuix omni right now it's one package hopefully later it'll be a kit that consumers can buy but right now it's kind of upgrade existing omnis yes but it's it's right now it's just for it's it's a design project with the universe with rice university in texas it's r&d for possibly military training applications it's not a consumer level thing but i fully expect people to scream for it so it'll probably become a consumer level thing at some time they said they may offer it but they're not dedicated to anything right now and like linus said it's going to be an upgrade kit to the existing omni so if you already bought one you don't have to worry about buying an entirely new kit which is going to cost way more money you just buy an upgrade kit which could possibly be even more looking at the size of the thing which we have only the one picture of so you can show that oops sorry just poked the crap out of your screen sorry so you can see it's it actually looks a lot more like the ghetto omnis that people have been making having the four post system with the supports coming in so the idea with this is that it can go up and down with you but then still provide support right it's a pretty interesting project but i don't expect it to be cheap and i think that's part of the reason why it's more of a military training application idea and not necessarily consumer idea is even as an upgrade kit i expect this to be really expensive so current level omnis you can run around and you can jump yeah um you imagine jumping on that thing though that'd be tough i was actually just going to bring this up is that currently you can run around and you can quote i should have done quote unquote jump because that makes more sense um and now you'll be able to crouch part of the problem with them claiming jumping is one of the abilities is i fully expect if you did that all the time you would end up breaking things or yourself because they have essentially if you've ever been longboarding or if you have friends that have been longboarding if they have those longboarding gloves with the like slick plasticky kind of pad things on their gloves you're essentially wearing those on your feet on a plastic surface so you slide a lot that's the whole point so it feels like you're running as you're putting your feet on plastic it's because it slides down so jumping on that type of a surface if you're actually trying to get a lot of air yeah it's going to be kind of scary so there's not a time to say in there if you do want it i'm sure contacting virtuex would help it come to the consumer end uh but just remember it's going to be really expensive how would you feel as an omni kickstarter backer at this point that thing has been so up and down with the recent thing out of um out of oculus being yeah we're focused on a sitting down experience not on a moving around experience so there's there's i know someone who backed it do you yeah and like bought the whole thing yeah like a full bag like the 400 yeah okay okay i don't um i i don't know um i would be paying a lot of attention to the the small groups very small groups right now that are working on a i can't even call it ghetto solution because it has to be pretty advanced for this to work properly um but like the the the the the moving of the camera they're trying to make that a reality but having it based off your physical movement is going to impede you a lot for one right and there's going to be if unless it's like hardcore strapped in which is going to be highly uncomfortable there's going to be mechanical lag because you're going to turn and then it's going to have to pick up with you right and then there's software problems with it shifting too much and then motorized versions that detect your movement based off of the connect are going to have problems again and there's yeah i don't know they're trying to make something work but none of the solutions are very feasible yet and they're all aftermarket ones omni hasn't said anything right about it actually happening you mean oculus no or omni omni oh okay sorry yeah no worries virtuics i should have said yeah huh all right it's an interesting situation but i just people do have to realize that that quote is very real um they're they're focusing the seated forward facing this box of field of view from the camera position i mean cool stuff's gonna happen in the future but for now they want to focus on one thing at a time and i totally get that and i respect that yeah yeah um speaking of fairly quickly but yeah i respect that wow what's going on yeah it's okay anyway speaking of things that are are good i guess uh the facebook oculus acquisition is a done deal now it's been approved by the feds so there you go i guess that's all we really have to say that the last thing is and i apologize guys this is another oculus uh this is another oculus story but it's one that leads into a very interesting conversation oculus facebook sees movies as the next big thing for oculus rift so this is an article from tech radar and i would like for us to have a bit of a conversation here we haven't we haven't primed this one at all other than just to have sort of notes on it which i just closed so now i've got nothing but you know here why don't you do the facts and then we'll have the discussion this one yeah so uh what do you mean by facts i mean the things in there okay so according to corey i can't say your last name of mobile engineering virtual reality is destined to go well beyond gaming and movies seem to be the obvious next conquest people have been talking about going to imax essentially and wearing an oculus and how that experience could be with the awesome audio and everything else that there is in an imax another quote by the same i can't pronounce your last name i'm very sorry facebook's vp of mobile engineering i am completely excited about the intersection of hollywood and virtual reality i think we're going to i think we're going to see the next uh i think what we're going to see i've mixed one word there over the next coming year is going to be truly spectacular so essentially there's just a lot of we're interesting one of the problems is going to be you're not going to be able to shoot content that's actually properly designed for a rift by using the same kind of camera setup that we use and what a lot of much better camera setup but what a lot of movies would use which is like a prime camera and maybe one or two other shots and then that's it you're going to need an insane amount of cameras because you're going to have to be able to capture everything and part of your problem is going to be like people and stuff which would normally be behind the scenes well if someone goes like this what's going to happen it's yeah so in my mind the only way for a vr film to work properly would be autonomous an autonomous array of relatively inexpensive um omnidirectional cameras so if and you won't be able unless you can make drones much much quieter than they are and much much more advanced than they are you're not going to be able to record sound with any i guess okay you could mic up everyone and everything but still that wouldn't help for ambient sound collection so you're going to need an autonomous array of drones and then you're going to need to have a crazy sophisticated way of having each of them overlap each other's images enough to cancel each other out so that you can't see the drones or whether it's drones or whether it's something else the way that the camera arrays will have to work will have to be so that for every camera that's positioned so so let's let's say you guys are looking at a top down view so for every camera positioned here there's going to have to be one here and here so that we can see anything that would have been blocked by this one from this camera position here because someone has to be able for to for me for me for vr to be a way for me to compellingly be told a story um it's going to have to work the same way that vr would work in a game where i can walk around in the environment which leads us to the other reasonable future scenario which is maybe we just do away with sets and actors and the whole thing goes full cgi um i mean you're still gonna have that you're still gonna have that not it's not quite real it's it's still a little bit creepy effect but not if it's not if it's designed to not look real okay if it's not designed to look real then i guess there's that but that still doesn't address any kind of um any kind of footage of anything that's like actually real like i don't know i don't know if i'm explaining this properly i think this could be the first the first technological thing that happens that really makes me feel old because i get the feeling much like anyone who you know kind of looked at mp3s or still looks at mp3s today and goes well the radio was good enough when i was a kid so the radio is good enough now and you know what the radio is still great but i think for me this is not going to be a compelling way to watch a movie for an hour and a half i don't think it will be now one of the problems you see when you uh come out with a new medium like let's look at video games when video games first started being a really big deal what a lot of people started trying to do was and now i'm not saying pong i'm saying stuff beyond that they tried making movies that were interactive do you remember that people were trying to merge movies and video games and they tried to make these like stupid playable on your dvd player video games because they were like movies and games yeah the second you try to merge things like this there's going to be the people that kind of half ass it at the beginning and it's not going to work very well what people are going to have to actually do is create an experience focused around the idea that it's a movie for virtual reality and it's going to have to be films completely differently it's going to have to be written completely differently all the sets are going to have to be made completely differently everything is going to have to be totally different i think it's going to be a long time till we get there even if we start trying now i think everything is going to be kind of crap at the beginning um i mean there's a lot of different ways vr could work for a movie i mean like uh i guess you wouldn't even need to be vr in order for like as camera technology changes if you could watch the movie flat or if you could watch the movie from the perspective of any one character that you pick like if you could cycle through or whatever else like there's a lot of different things that can happen here i just don't know which one of them which ones of them will be enjoyable that's something that's interested me as well as if you can be like i am the lead character or i'm the supporting role and you want to see it from their angle i want to be saran yeah like something like that but then what's your movie going to be yeah that's another part of the problem when i brought in sets and scripts and all that kind of stuff because he's not actually in that much of the movie so how do you make that a movie right well there'd be much more filming and then part of the problem is you're bringing in way more angles and you're bringing in way more possibilities so that is going to raise costs by a lot if you have to produce an entire movie from different people's perspectives but the same feature length that's a lot of editing and production it sounds like a crazy kickstarter project that just might work yeah that's what it sounds like to me it sounds like someone's gonna try someone will try oh definitely like this will happen and i fully expect i think it's all i'm trying to say is i think there's gonna be growing pains i don't i don't think it's not gonna grow i don't think it's not gonna happen i'm pretty sure facebook has made it extremely clear that they want this to happen um yeah i don't know it's gonna be interesting i have a feeling i'm gonna be a geezer about it though because it just doesn't sound that appealing to me gaming vr yeah heads up or like definitely two thumbs up um augmented reality vr oh yeah i'm so into that yeah for sure that's i'm actually more excited about that than sitting down vr me too but i don't see that as being very good for a while oh it's gonna be a long time yeah that's that's the holy grail that's why i'm focusing on i mean that goes all the way back to our virtual like flying rc things at each other the football field worth yeah yeah that goes all the way back to that's like that is exciting that's the kind of thing that i would well have you seen the the digital trips thing from watchdogs no when you go around i'm trying i'm gonna this is stuff that's been already released so if you're waiting for watchdogs maybe plug your ears but this is not i don't think they're trying to hide this this isn't really a spoiler alert or anything like that um but digital trips you can walk around and people on the street will just try and sell you like digital trips and you will it like changes how the game plays and like one of them i can't remember what it's actually called um but you turn into this giant spider tank right so you're a tank but it has like spider legs and stuff sure and you just run around and jump around the city and just blow crap up and you have like a cannon it's just ridiculous but you're it's a digital trip and i i don't remember exactly if there's like side effects or crazy things that can happen or anything like that i haven't looked way too far into it but like that kind of stuff would be really cool like altering that like alternate reality with the football field and stuff yeah take that idea or you're just like sitting on the bleachers and it's a normal day but then all sudden there's spider tanks and helicopters and stuff and you're fighting your buddy and like yeah it's gonna be awesome that would be really cool all right so that's that's it for virtual reality stuff for today don't worry guys yep um amazon amazon has secured a deal to provide hbo premium content to amazon prime members you will be able to access hbo shows not all of them um hbo is going to be sticking to like a multi-year delay between when they release content and then when stuff is available sort of elsewhere but what's amazing about this whole thing is this is this is hbo's first move towards any kind of purely digital distribution network so hbo content has already been available as on demand but this is the first time you're going to be able to stream it in an unlimited fashion using just your amazon prime membership now amazon did recently increase the price of amazon prime but as you can already see it looks like that was for good reason and they're looking to add more value to that increased subscription in order to continue to justify it for people so um the first question in my mind was oh are they going to have game of thrones on it no no no game of thrones so it's going to have sopranos the wire deadwood roam six feet under um so all seasons of some of the some of the older stuff it's going to have select seasons of newer stuff like true blood it's going to have some original movies like too big to fail and you don't know jack and some documentaries some comedy specials from ellen degeneris and so folks like that uh it's going to have some of the mini series like band of brothers and there you go as an amazon prime member so if you have a kindle tv or whatever that fire tv thank you if you have a fire tv then you're i'm really off today that's cool then you're going to be able to stream these to yourself and i think that's that's great but just plain not enough yeah i it's uh i hbo needs to figure it out in my opinion they need to they need to start because what was it like game of thrones was the most downloaded thing through torrents ever didn't they win that twice or something i think so and like come on guys maybe figure it out at some point in time get a website i'll pay a subscription i don't even have a cable connection but i'd love to watch your shows i honestly haven't i think i've watched like the first almost the first season of game of thrones because i watched it at my parents house like i'd love to see it going through the books but i i'm kind of holding out because hbl has got to revolutionize in some form at some point in time they have to like come on guys everyone's moving off the tv maybe they'll get intended at some point and what was their name ario maybe ario will figure out some way oh that would be tough that would be tough i'm pretty sure they'd lose that fight what's up next um well i wanted that to lead into uh here we go here uh oh is that is that the article yeah awesome i couldn't see that for so i can't see that for some reason where is that for some reason where is that oh it's way down at the bottom there we go okay so here we go so again it's not good enough and the situation is terrible so this is from slash dot actually there was uh i had a better article on it before but whatever the point is hulu apparently worried that too many non-us residents are using cheap vpn services to watch its us programming have started blocking ip address ranges belonging to known vpn services hulu didn't announce the ban but users of affected vpns are getting this message based on your ip address we noticed you are trying to access hulu through an anonymous proxy tool hulu is not currently available outside the us if you're in the us you'll need to disable your anonymizer to access videos on hulu so the problem in there now sorry there's the link i meant to put in there now that's okay so the problem here is that it denies access to hulu from people who are in the us just because they want to use a vpn to have a slightly more anonymous internet browsing experience which is okay like that's fine um the other issue here is that this again so hbo it's not good enough to kind of go like oh yeah well like some of our old stinky content that is still good but quite frankly if you were that interested in watching the sopranos you've probably already seen it yeah um like some some of our old stuff is like yeah it's okay we need legitimate ways to access premium content in a timely manner blocking things and holding on to things is not going to last forever and i wish we would just hurry up and get over it i can't even remember what it was but i tried to watch a video last night or the night before on some website and it was like you can't watch this because you're in canada and i was like oh geez and then as i'm going to close the site it has a pop-up which is like can you answer our survey about using our website i was like yes i hate everything like this is so stupid i can't use your website it's a pretty big problem it's uh it's uh it's so frustrating i like it's not clear to me what the solution is because i mean you know part of the problem is that advertisers aren't going to want their advertising impressions wasted on people who can't even benefit from their services but then find a monetization platform that works so that ads are different on when it's being viewed in a different country so your solution is to create a ginormous you know advertising network that gets puts ads everywhere i don't think anything like that exists i first thought you were serious i was like what that's one of those things where to me if the issue is is advertising and licensing then figure it out but what the real issue is is protecting the providers the the existing relationships with providers that are geo specific and geo specific just has to go it was stupid back when certain game consoles worked in certain regions and it's i know and it's stupid now it the whole thing is stupid dvd region locks are stupid everything is stupid you create the content you get it in front of the eyeballs you collect the advertising revenue if the model needs to change the model needs to change yeah um so it's just frustrating and like i'm honest i could have vpn'd to watch that video i could have figured it out but i was just like no speaking of which speaking of vpn's i actually haven't that the way that it's funny the way that i did my hulu plus integration not that long ago on alina's tech tips video was by using hotspot shield our other sponsor to let me access it so i could watch the videos and i haven't actually tried again since this news came out like hours ago to find out if hotspot shield is one of the ones affected but but anyway when it comes to netflix anyway or you know at least other video streaming services that aren't specifically blocking vpn's i can say with certainty that hotspot shield is the fast easy way to access content that is locked out of your region so hotspot shield anonymizes you and also provides you with an ip that is based in a completely different location so you they have uk based ones they have us based ones so if you want to go on comedy central.com for example you can watch whatever videos you want just boom make sure and you enable hotspot shield you can actually turn it on and off and so you just kind of turn it on whenever you want to use it you turn it off whenever you want to play games and you don't want your ping times offend offended affected by the fact that you're redirecting all of your traffic through a us-based server and there you go guys you can save 20% on their elite service which is the one that i recommend by the way the free service is ad supported so it exists but it has ads so if you want sort of the cleanest possible browsing experience save 20% by heading over to bit.ly slash hs share for 20% off use offer code linus thank you hotspot shield for sponsoring today's episode of the wend show we've also got barnacles get out of here that was from barnacles last week who was weighing in on our g750jz isn't that awesome that we have like matching laptops now what's that guy's name who went to the fence yeah we'll have a wendell no no the guy no where he's oh wilson yeah oh well wendell from tech syndicate does it too i know he never shows his face now more wilson yeah well so we'll have you'll still hear us um it's all right it's not great yeah the audio is not great so maybe we'll just we'll go with this so the g750jz is the next evolutionary step in the g750 series from asus and what it basically brings to the table is a lot closer to desktop grade performance and a lot closer to desktop pricing than we've ever really seen before now we had some people question our desktop you remember the yeah you ran the benchmarks okay so we had some people question our desktop when we did our comparison because what we discovered was that matching this feature for feature spec for spec it was going to cost us about 200 less to build an equivalent desktop in terms of sort of you know the similar intel cpu and the gpu that performs about the same and all that stuff but this one actually performed within what it was about 70 to 80 percent of the performance of the desktop i said on the stream though that if we went for just performance on the desktop i could have smoked it yeah we were going for feature we were going for feature parity so a lot of the things that we included are things that maybe you wouldn't choose but you still have to acknowledge that there are features that are going to matter to some people and they're features that do cost money like for example we could have bought the cheapest possible motherboard but we didn't we bought an asus motherboard because we were looking for quality parity and then we bought one with thunderbolt because this laptop has thunderbolt which is a feature that some people use so that's that's that's all there is to it we threw in you know a 20 dollar webcam budget with the desktop because a lot of people use webcams this notebook includes a webcam so we're gonna have to include a webcam to make sure it's fair because while you guys might not look at that and go oh well it's you know you might look at that and you go well oh that's not the hardware i would have bought therefore it's not fair well the laptop's available in different configurations this is the one we happen to have so we have to build something that's equivalent to it so that's basically all there is to it it runs extremely quietly at idle here that's our microphone he put the vent yeah he put the vent of the laptop like inside of the fur of our whatever this is called it's called a dead cat i don't like calling it that i know it's called a dead cat anyway so the point is it is extremely quiet when you're not doing anything intensive it runs cool when you're doing crazy intensive stuff and i think is it fair to say you were blown away by how well it performs yeah i i i'll be completely honest while doing this ad integration which might not be the greatest thing but i generally don't like laptops i know but i've used this a couple times now like when we used it in boston output videos really fast which is really nice and i used it to play i don't even remember what quite a few different games with my buddy victoria and never had a single problem i think this was actually faster than his desktop you took this on a trip to victoria no seriously it's company property man you could at least tell me i didn't i was talking about my laptop no you weren't it doesn't even have a video card in it it does actually so we've managed to make it seriously we've managed to make it this far into the integration without even explaining so it's got a core i7 4700 hq it's got an 880m which is actually just about equivalent to a gtx 770 delivers a great gaming experience it's still portable even though it's obviously not a zen book and there you go guys the asus g750 jay-z sponsor of today's episode i can't even believe you jay-z would have just owned his own to bring it to victoria yes jay-z the rapper would have you know what's you know what's the worst part is i'm gonna have to listen to this joke for another five weeks i'm not gonna give up speaking of jokes that lasted longer than five weeks google plus integration on youtube google has allegedly well no it's happened google has cut between 1 000 and 1200 people from the google plus project and reassigned them to other divisions with a huge chunk of them going over to the android side of things so that means that products like hangouts for example they're not being cut they're still going to exist they're just going to be less focused on google plus and more tightly integrated into android or or other youtube or google projects sorry i got youtube on the brain so one of the one of the reasons for this actually we don't have a clear idea about the reason but one of the reasons for this that i think is just how much negativity there's been around google plus and how it's been forced on users it's one of the few things that google's really done that has made literally everyone mad like the entire internet was upset about this google has always been really really good at making something and then just having it exist and people find out about it and then people do their own marketing around it they've always been incredibly good at that and that might have worked for hangouts if it wasn't such a giant piece of crap yeah google plus is terrible i just say hangouts i'm sorry okay no i'm okay with part of hangouts is terrible i'm getting better i'm more okay with hangouts now i still don't like the sms integration desk i still don't like the fact that it doesn't have a proper desktop client i can't use it as my main thing until it's on all platforms so okay okay so so hold on but google plus sorry giant steaming pile of garbage i mean honestly i'm not the best at navigating social media websites i hardly know how to use facebook the only thing i know how to do is to reply to people who post on my posts and post on my page other than that i figured it all out at one point and i like integrated my twitter feed and i did all this stuff and then i forgot everything because i don't use any of that stuff because i don't care like i don't care that my cousin's second knee fuse knee fuse i'm really tired like like my cousin's third cousin had a birthday i don't care so i basically don't even open it other than to manage the linus tech page you can like filter people out of your so i forgot how to use all that stuff google plus i couldn't even figure out in the first place and not because i'm an idiot and i can't figure out how to add someone to a circle and post some something that they can see what i couldn't figure out was how to make it part of a workflow for me how to integrate it into what i'm doing on twitter and facebook how to manage it so that it is correctly tied to some of my youtube channels but not my other ones and so that i can have people administering it and and these are the logistical problems that i had with google plus the fact that it was a little bit confusing in the first place because nothing's really labeled so yeah i imagine once you're a google plus genius it's pretty quick to navigate but nothing's really correctly labeled in the first place and second because of google's history of permanently tying or untying accounts to each other and being fundamentally broken from then on i was afraid to experiment and so unless i created an entire new batch of youtube channels an entire new google plus and like trial and error it it just wasn't going to work and that's the problem pretty big problem pretty big problem if you if you expect a social network to work you're going to have to have influencers on it i'm already in your ecosystem google i'm a youtuber okay and you can't manage to capture me that's a problem pretty bad it's terrible you know when when when when they first started talking about how they're going to integrate google plus with everything and how it's going to be this giant ecosystem i was really excited yeah and then i was like wow this is bad and now i'm no longer excited it could have been amazing should we explain while we're both tired and why laughing at your jokes it hurts uh it's gonna have to do with the poll so let's let's finish up first okay i think we kind of are we're kind of done there's a couple other things i just thought this was awesome supposed on the forum all of denmark has been recreated in minecraft what's posted by genres now not okay this has kind of been done before like the uk did a topographical map but no no no no this is the denmark like buildings and stuff so they're releasing it uh the only the only things that have been changed to make it not completely uh sandbox is they have removed explosives and they have there's one other thing and all the roofs are flat that's it other than that it's denmark wow isn't that amazing that's pretty cool i love it i think that's fantastic that is actually really cool uh and then i had one other thing i think right um okay someone someone someone figure out the logistics and kickstart this i wanted to make it myself but i give up because i just don't have time and if you can give me like a couple bucks for the idea then i'd appreciate that otherwise just make it and send me one and if you can't even manage that then just make it and i'll buy one because i really need this i want a smart lamp okay lamps the only innovation that has existed in the lamp market has been aesthetic design and putting different kinds of light bulbs in it what i need and someone please make this for me is an led smart lamp that is that is for your devices okay so i think maybe the gen 2 product okay maybe gen 2 product gets wireless charging on one of the levels but basically the way i want the smart lamp to work is i wanted to have a lamp on the top lamp shade i want it to look pretty nice modern aesthetic so maybe like white shade black structure and basically i want the entire thing to be kind of shaped like this and have shelves on each level and then down one side maybe you can turn that into like some kind of a stylized thing so one side's thicker i want cable management and then i want the whole smart lamp to have one plug that goes into the wall and then maybe a base that has a whole bunch of usb ports in it so what you can do is on your shelves you can have little wires coming up so that basically all you do is you you can plug all of your devices into your smart lamp so that they don't all take up a bunch of space on your nightstand that's what i want it needs to exist it couldn't be that expensive it couldn't be that difficult to build but there is for some reason there's a crazy shortage of multiple hub chargers antech has one that's pretty good there's another one that's pretty good but why isn't there one that just has like six seven eight ports all of which are 2.1 amp capable with all the latest charging schemes please someone make this for me and then follow it up with one where the bottom one is a large wireless charging pad and i think that should live everywhere you might not even have to follow up with that that could just be like the more expensive tier i think that also doesn't sound hard to set up so yes like at all lamp with lamp with hub would like it people asking what happened to my hand that actually ties in pretty well to the next thing that's coming later so um do you want to do okay here do you want to do a random dot org um prize winner pick for the htc1 m8s sure what's the number range which uh oh here no no it's okay here just um use my computer okay i want that one okay so just do it do it in our standard way so uh random i know random dot org random page and then random person on the page and then guys we're going to validate to make sure that you haven't posted twice do we know how many pages there yes we do yeah we know how many pages 490 i know we got a lot of entrance oh no and htc has confirmed they were super nice to get about it again not not reading the fine print for giveaways you guys uh you were supposed to click the bit.ly link that htc gave us yeah i'll do that uh you were supposed to click the bit.ly link in order to qualify for us to have two phones to give away we needed to get 10,000 clicks we have over 10,000 entries and yet we don't have over 10,000 clicks but htc was super cool about it and they gave us two phones anyway so what are terms they just have to post in here at all they have to post in here at all without double posting so the the content of the message is not nope don't care okay it's supposed to contain their favorite thing about the one i made but come on whatever we're not going to draw someone and then not give them the award we're just gonna we're just gonna scold them for not paying attention scold everyone for not paying any attention 210 of course 210 of what it's page 210 oh okay cool so yeah we're picking those winners guys stay tuned picking dim winners all about dim winners and we are also going to explain why my hands are black oh are you out uh is the fastest possible ready to rock all done you are the man man have a great weekend see you monday 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 so you have 20 per page okay yep sorry i could have told you that but i was not listening to you because i don't care number 11 gotta find him now now one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven george hart the best thing is the build quality no replacement for metal yes yeah metal yeah there we go now i put up these two i'm like nope that's hanging loose gotta fix that one okay so do i just message him i don't think there's yeah uh uh whatever message him later yeah it's all good i'm gonna copy the name down though you don't think there's what uh i don't remember sure okay so are we going into the thing now uh no you gotta pick one more another one yeah pick another winner we got two phones man okay 420 it was for pages uh 490 i think 490 yep 490 the result is 129 can they even see that oh i don't know i can zoom in on it that's okay probably doesn't matter they trust us what was it 129 129 yep checking oh yeah they can see it never mind it's all good so page 129 here we go guys htc1 and mate winner in case people are confused i mean you are all editing to get to the page all right screw cooking next that many times 20 per page here we go second phone winner nine nine i feel sorry for anyone that we're scrolling over right now seven eight nine let me recount that just in case because i laughed part way through one two three four five six seven eight yeah okay all right eight eight seven eight there's an n in there oh all right so 1080p screen and build quality and but battery but battery battery yeah but jury and cameras and speakers i like the video about it so he likes everything apparently a battery is kind of like a whorehouse where you have to take care of yourself oh no that's horrible wow or a place where you uh you get stuff to feed fish yeah there we go that's yep that's it oh these stupid stupid high bit rate clips these aren't going to play over wireless oh that's that's that's super unfortunate okay hold on a second okay well i'm gonna i'm gonna find a clip for you guys that's uh here okay you know what why don't you do like drag that one over a twitter blitz or something i have another topic i can talk to you okay yeah yeah yeah do a topic do topic all right is this gonna work whoa yeah right now so where is it let me get to this bit torrent is suggesting that netflix should move to peer-to-peer networks because of all the crap that's been going around right now over people charging netflix like isps charging netflix and isps charging other people for premium bandwidth lanes and all the net neutrality issues that are happening right now that may still be resolved at some point but for now are not but for now or not so they're suggesting that like i just said netflix goes to a peer-to-peer network um the reason why we hadn't covered this topic yet is because i have no notes about it at all but it's been proved that this could work because of stuff like popcorn time popcorn imagine you had popcorn time but on the scale of netflix i don't think the bandwidth issues would even have a problem be a problem because uh popcorn time seemed fast enough i never even ended up trying it but from people that i know that tried it it no one had any problems watching videos in high high quality so this would totally work and it actually does totally make sense it does pose a problem though um as that would be like super easy as you're storing the file on your computer right and i don't think right now with netflix even if you view it through a website it's just streaming you're not actually saving a temp file or anything right yeah i know so is this working fine now yeah yeah this is working actually the solution was just to plug in wired by the way don't gunk up the uh yeah okay here we go so a couple of things so number one actually before we uh hold on before we get too far into this first up is guys uh we need your help because we have uh shoot the link is in the dock yeah which browser are you using firefox okay right that figures okay link is in the dock okay so guys we are posting this in the where's it oh i hate that how sometimes it has the drive favicon and sometimes it has a little document one it's ridiculous yep okay so there is a problem on the internet right now on twitter where the problem is that here i'm just going to post this guys we need y'all i posted that as luke in in the twitch chat we need everyone to get on the twitch chat click that link um we were actually losing this straw poll earlier today for which tech youtuber would be the last one standing in a winner takes all free for all fight and first of all this is a problem because my team as of may 1st will contain six people so we would obviously win number two our team has this massive hulk of a warrior specimen so we would obviously win so i need you guys to take care of this poll because and if you're on the fence if you've already voted for someone else or if you're on the fence about voting at all what i need for you guys is to here i'm just gonna i'm gonna keep posting this i need for you guys to check this out because this is is from the shoot uh that we were on yesterday where we were dressed up and where my hands got all covered in black marks that i actually can't remove and the reason why both of us are incredibly sore today but should tip you over the edge and help us secure your vote so if you want to just keep posting the yeah you handle that while i show them what went on yesterday so the first i'll give you guys the view from a distance here all right so did you watch this one already i haven't watched this one i don't know it's pretty good i don't know how great it is so this is this is all is this just pre-set up yeah okay so preamble preamble here we go it starts soon okay so this is for this is for an upcoming commercial that we're making we we do that now apparently i don't know if there's audio i don't want there to be audio hold on i don't think there's audio is this clip 426 i don't know okay i don't think so like to see logan take this on i think we go off screen on this one i'm not sure we'll see why are they sore today this one might not be as good as some of the other ones it's not that's why i asked you what clip number it is okay i'll grab the other clip after you appear on the other side of his head yeah that might not be the best clip it's not that was like the first one we did oh okay okay hold on hold on it gets a lot better okay let me find a better clip hold on hold on i'll be back anyway guys go vote post a link post a link post a link post link vote for the nights sorry which one is it i think it's 426 try that one i can't verify the exact number right now and guys let me tell you when this kind of stuff happens over and over and over again yeah we did it many many times it becomes pretty challenging that one was missing some of the best stuff i know this one has a flying double kick and like hold on don't don't spoil it i think this is the good one i'm not sure trust me guys this was real tiring and uh so how much did your chainmail weigh i we didn't weigh it but i'm guessing 40 45 pounds oh this is the one where i lost my helmet oh this is the one where i lost my helmet yeah or one of the ones where i lost my helmet the helmet in spite of being not that strong actually helped a little bit yeah there you go all right all right hold on the like close-up awesomeness is yeah there's one more clip we did a couple of times and we did a couple of times and we did a couple of times and we did close-up awesomeness is yeah there's one more clip we don't have any of the slow-mo you guys because we captured that in raw yeah so unfortunately we can't share that with you but i'm gonna look for the clip of the uh of some of the more close-up shots and then you guys will see it it looks it looks interesting from that far away but up close uh honestly even the guys filming it so brandon was like uh okay that's a lot faster and a lot more intense when i'm right next to it he got hit once uh what's this one one take three hold on do you know what you're looking for did brandon get hit once yeah did he by my axe really or wait no that was the camera never mind yeah my bad the camera got hit one when did we do the long take i don't know i don't remember wasn't that near the beginning of these ones i think so that's what i'm looking for but in the meantime do we have any topics to keep people busy with i don't think so there's the uh winners of the build blog contest but i kind of want to go through that with you i can bring it up on this laptop though oh okay cool because we're doing the voting thing now and there's all that stuff going on right that makes sense no i keep forgetting it's this laptop okay so bill boggs i was gonna do this after so just give me a sec guys i will be ready though this is i hate the way that this camera it's terrible if you guys are wondering why it's taking so long you dance hey nights danced okay i think this is the one right it might be how long is it it's pretty long very possibly yeah okay okay so here you go guys sneak preview sneak preview so here we are up close these costumes they were cool until it like rained and we'd been wearing them for six hours so we had we were essentially wearing towels and then under chain and scale and then plate on top what's up pitched up i'm just curious it's gonna take a while for me to catch up did i already do my goofy little dance i think so i think this is just repeated slamming oh is that all this is yeah oh is this the wrong clip well whatever okay you guys will have to wait to see some of the crazier stuff later stuff like that like legitimately hurt though especially when he hits me in the face so yeah that was just us getting some clips of of like me hitting him okay well i'm sorry guys you'll have to wait till we actually release our commercial something else that you guys should definitely check out is by far the best promotional video that my team has ever made i actually had very little involvement this thing was awesome with this one but you know what maybe we'll just play it on the stream maybe we'll just play this one on the stream twitch does sometimes have problems just like streaming youtube videos for whatever reason i don't know how that even happens but just a heads up um it might work we'll see okay well hold on a minute let me uh let me see if i can where is kingston's channel nope so this is actually posted on kingston's youtube channel i think they're under kingston memory or kingston technology there we go all right you guys you guys check this out let's check this out wait where is it they oh that's weird they posted it on twitter i don't actually see it here bizarre um it is weird it has way more views than like anything that's on there as well yeah okay oh well i'll tweet it out later okay anyway you on that laptop need to go to the forum and then to the build log voting thread so nope you're not stream screening okay you need to change accounts i need to what log out of mine oh well here just switch sure we'll do the old laptop switcheroo knee here you go whoops sorry did i just get you in the junk nope it's close again just like the hammer oh yeah or was it your foot no it was my foot oh okay yep junk foot yeah okay so you right now here it was hivefire and project rampage that one so cool fire is luckily the very first one in the list sweet wow yeah i think that's even seen this yet pretty ridiculous we haven't done build logs of the week in a long time it is now the logs of the month of the month of the month yeah that is of the month this is part of the reason why we made it build logs of the month unfortunately last time i checked i don't know if it's still this way or not but the build logs actually for this coming month only had one submission so just so everyone knows if you want to be on build logs of the month go to the forum um and post your submission read the rules because for this submission i i let all the people through that broke the rules but for next submission i made it very clear who did it wrong next submission please do it correctly and then we'll be we'll be good to go this i like almost don't even know what to say i mean look at the details yeah i mean every colors on every dominator module yeah i mean coloring the accents on this motherboard looks outstanding an insane amount of time went into this i mean the amount the it's funny because stuff doesn't match but it almost looks better that way because it's but it almost looks better that way like we've got clear tubing braided tubing we've got like a black and red and gray color scheme here with black yellow red orange here and like oh it's just it's just utter chaos it actually plays into the whole hivefire idea because the fire is not going to look identical all over the place that's fantastic it's really cool all right so we're spilling down a little bit these are all crazy good yeah for sure i was very obnoxious by my you broke the rules thing this was the other winner was project ramp page so again check out the check out this thread on the forum and you can click through to their individual forum threads by doing so so you can go down to project rampage on this thread click on his link and then you'll go to his full build blog which will have all the pictures and all the details and all that kind of stuff these are just short snippets look at this bent tubing oh man i love that it looks really good that looks clean i mean i'm not i'm not much of an overdone fittings guy and this to me is a little bit extreme you can see how many fittings are stacked on top of each other here i don't like unnecessary points of failure so that's one thing um but love the aesthetic love the way these pci express connectors come in absolutely love this bend right here like bringing it up and then away really breaks up that normal look of tri sli or tri crossfire graphics cards with this kind of this red line on the bottom one looks fantastic memory cooling is again something that i'm not a huge fan of because it's completely unnecessary although that g skill ram that we have the 2400 megahertz 64 gig kit does benefit from active cooling so i shouldn't say completely unnecessary because i don't want to put fans on things either yeah that's true especially if you're doing like a crazy water cooled build you want your fans in very specific locations fantastic builds you guys those are amazing absolutely awesome so i'm going to try and get something worked out in terms of like build of the month badges or something we'll figure that out that's probably not going to happen immediately um but yeah the build of the something is back we're going to be doing another one next month cool um and yeah remember to go in the forum vote and submit oh yeah and remember to vote for us in the straw poll as well yeah i'm going to post that in the chat some more yeah hold on i'm going to post it in the chat too guys go vote for the knights go vote for the pc knights all right there's a straw poll go vote my twitch chat is disconnected because who knows uh because i turned your wi-fi off oh that makes sense that is everybody go vote go vote am i allowed to spam my own chat um i think eventually twitch gets mad really i think so i'm not sure interesting we should have a look at how the where the results are sitting now oh yeah we're ahead by a solid couple thousand now thank you guys thanks everyone yeah you took care of that stunning abomination of a poll result that had us losing all right how long did we fight for yesterday in full armor hours like seven hours i know i think it was more like five because we had the armor on for a while and we were just like kind of doing stuff but like you were doing tiring things like you moved all of our gear from the one table to the uh to the bleachers all right good night everyone thank you for watching the wandshow i changed my mind about garage sale because i'm just really tired i want to go home um peace out bye everyone i went to sleep last night you didn't so that's very justified