 Oh, I really wish I could tell you guys why I'm late today, but it's under embargo and I can't, but it's really cool. It's like, well, no, but there's always a different reason. And today the reason is actually really cool. Yeah, we, what's that? I know. Yeah, yeah, we're straight. Jake got kicked off hardcore. All right, so we've got a great show for you guys today. Dennis is going to be sharing with us his experience of doing his very first episode of Techlinked. Can someone zoom us in a little bit more? We have, we're like swimming in the frame here, if you don't mind. That'd be great, thank you. Yeah, I like to get close and intimate. Yeah, come on, come on over here. See, Dennis has never been on Wanshow. I have. So have you? Not for the entire show. Are you on for the entire show? No, I never actually. Also, where are the devil, are my other adapters, Jake? On my desk. We have one down. Oh, I wanted to do that. All right, so Dennis hosted his very first episode of Techlinked today. They request. And it was pretty cringy from what I saw. No, it was not. Don't bump the table, because the mic's attached to it. It was not that. It was pretty cringy from what I saw, but maybe I missed some parts of it that were going smoothly, that maybe were great. So can you go ahead and let me know how that was for you? So Brandon was shooting it. It was fine, Linus. It was, okay, so- Hold on, Brandon, don't go away. Let Dennis finish. How did it go, Dennis? In the beginning, it was kind of hard to read some words like for pronunciation. Yep, some words are hard. So Riley had to change the word, like what's the word I couldn't pronounce? I don't even remember. And he just changed to something very simple, like just say great. Okay. And I just used that word, or like better, something like that. He just used some words he uses too hard for me. Right, okay. And I think it's good. You should watch the video. It's coming out very soon, I think. Okay, out of 10, Brandon. Oh. I think it's better than, okay, it's better than- You did better than my first time on camera, so 6.5. 6.5, okay. I'll out 10. So today's episode of Tech Linked, don't miss it. Six and a half out of 10 quality. But fortunately, we have at least fixed the stream quality of the WAN show. Some of you are speculating that we might have upgraded to a different camera. No, all we did was change the video settings to the same as we used on the LG ultra wide streamed PC build yesterday. And- It looks so good. Bippity boppity fix. Oh, Brandon says we've also fixed some of the lighting as well. So the reality of it is that the lights in question are like $60 soft boxes off being- Brandon, these are nothing fancy, right? I don't think- Nothing fancy. And the camera is identical. The capture hardware is identical. We've just been doing it that wrong for that long. So on that note, let's get this WAN show epic fail party started. I'm dead. I don't expect you to. You know they can hear you right now, right? Can they? Can they hear you? Oh my God. Got some sponsors. All right. So we have got a great show for you guys today. We got a bunch of cool topics. Apple's new MacBook Pro throttles so bad. So bad that we had to do a dedicated live stream today to show how we could get it to throttle from being inside the packaging to thermal throttled in less than 20 minutes. And we probably could have done it a lot faster if I hadn't done it in less than 20 minutes. But it would have been faster if I had any idea what the heck I was doing with a MacBook. And if it was already unboxed, we could have done it in like one minute. So a number of different publications have talked about this. So we'll talk about our results as well as others. In other news, the new MacBook Pro keyboard does apparently have crumb protection. What's crumb protection? Crumb protection. We will go through that in more detail once we get to that news topic. This is the part where we tease them. Oh, it's tease. It's like the news segment that's like, make sure you watch the news at 11. You know, like, oh, coffee could give you AIDS in your mouth more at 11. And you're like, no, I need to know now. It's a hook. It's a hook. Yeah, it's the hook. See, Dennis has learned so much about making videos since he got here. Like when I first met him, he was like, yeah, I'm gonna make a video about an interview and I'm gonna have a picture of Hitler in the background. That's why do you mention this every time? And I have to explain this every time. Just forget about that. It's not true. It is true. It's 100% true. When I interviewed Dennis on Skype, he had a poster of Hitler on the wall behind him. See, now he's trying to run away from the truth, but it was the truth. Okay, it does require a little bit more context. You know what? We're gonna talk about that later too. The Ryzen 3000 series may have more than eight cores. This is a rumor over at Tech Power Up. MSI apparently has dropped some hints. And finally, yet another CPU rumor, Intel chips, the new ones coming may finally, on the consumer side, have soldered IHSs. Maybe Intel has finally bowed to the pressures. Would it be bowed or bowed? Look who I'm asking. Forget it. Bowed to the pressure probably. Okay. All right. So why don't we jump into our first topic here? Dennis' Hitler poster. Oh, that, okay. Why did you have a poster of Hitler on the wall behind you when I interviewed you for a job? I did not, I didn't remember that I have that on my wall. And that is as a reference about something that the political issue that we had back then in Taiwan didn't actually mean about Hillary. He said, it has some Chinese character on that, but he just didn't understand. So I misunderstood your Hitler poster. It's not, I'm like, appreciate that. Twitch chat, Dennis did nothing wrong. Oh no. That, I was- No, I'm not saying Dennis did nothing wrong, but, and let's get those, let's get that chopped out so we can take that out of context, right? I'm not saying Dennis did nothing wrong. It's just that Dennis had a poster of Hitler on the wall behind him during a job interview. That was a mistake, but the poster didn't mean, poster was like being against this guy. It's like, no, no. Right. But it didn't have a symbol, like no. But it didn't have a symbol. But it has Chinese characters. But it has Chinese characters that mean no. I wish I had a picture of it, but I don't have it. I already, it's gone, it's already gone. I think my mom took it down. We should totally do a new shirt. Oh, man. Like a Dennis did nothing wrong shirt. We could just get some Sharpie and give you a little. Massage. Actually, you know what? We're not gonna do that. As a general rule, Linus Tech Tips tries to stay pretty, you know, pretty PG friendly, you know? Maybe not even. Really? Yeah. Oh, come on. How much time have you spent on YouTube? People are like, I would buy that shirt. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, but have they seen my, the new shirt we sell at LTX? Wait, is that listed online yet? I don't think so. It's only sold, we only sell them at LTX. Seriously? So we don't even have it listed online? Do you have one here? Should I go grab it? You should go grab it. We could totally do a variant of like the Dennis shirt. Oh man. Yeah, that would be awesome. This thing is like, it's a moving meme. Like once you put it on, it's a wearable, it's a completely wearable meme. I actually had no, honestly, I don't know about a lot of the shirt designs that they work on these days until they show up on the store or like add a meetup apparently. So there's a couple things in the store here that I'm just gonna pop up here. I actually haven't tested my screen cap to see if it's working yet. Oh, it is, cool. So this one, for example, the troll Linus shirt, the name is real. They were actually trolling me when they created it. This one, someone showed up at the meetup wearing this. This was an A prime initiative, absolutely horrible. It is every bit as awful in person as it looks online. And the way that it's printed is actually really nice. Like it looks crisp. And then even like everything under the armpits, the whole thing is printed with horrible thumbnail faces. And then of course, they created this mess. Go ahead. Yeah, stand up. Oh my God. This was supposed for a bureau we did. And I don't know why they took it down. They took it out from the, I think it's S8 review or something. Really, they took that out of the video. It's very distasteful. I don't agree with you. I think it's fine. So every time someone brought me one of these at the show, I was going out of my way. I know, I saw so many, you like drew on my eye and mustache. Yeah, so I was defacing all of the Dennis shirts whenever I had time. Like if there were like 30 people in front of me. You actually spent a lot of time on that. Oh yeah, there was one, oh, was there one where I like, didn't I color in your, an entire eye patch on your eye? Yes, that's the one. That one took so long, but I was like, you know what? This is 100% worth it. Yeah, so this shirt is not available online yet. No. Not yet. Oh, okay. Are we gonna put it online? I don't know. Maybe, maybe not. Maybe. I don't know. I mean, honestly, I think it's kind of fun to have like exclusive merch that's only available at something like a meetup. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. Actually, we should, have we even, when was LTX? Last Sunday. I mean, time's a blur for me. It hasn't, we haven't done a WAN show since LTX. That's already. How was it? What did you think? Oh, it's crazy. I think, I think we have more people this year, right? Oh, quite a few more. We have over 1,100 people. Some, just almost 1,200 people show up this year. It's a lot. Okay, so most of the people, most of the people I met, they are not from Canada. Like most, they are mostly from the state, Australia, UK. They're from everywhere. Okay, I have a confession. Hold that thought. That stresses me out a lot. So the night before, I was actually having like a panic attack a little bit. And honestly, like everything was fine. I actually apologized to Colton and Steph afterward for freaking out. But it got to the point where I actually asked them, okay, how much are we in this for? And they gave me a total number. It was more than 10,000, but less than 100. And so I was like, and my immediate response was, and I felt so bad for saying this. I was like, okay then. So worst case scenario, we're out, however many thousands of dollars it was, and we just refunded everyone. And they were like, what did you just say? Because basically I was so worried about a few things that I was like, I thought we were gonna be Tanacon 2.0. And this was just me freaking out because, and then it didn't even make me feel better for longer than like two seconds, because what I realized based on how huge the international audience was, the last time that a lot of people were gonna be in this for hundreds or maybe even over a thousand dollars to come attend. So that was actually where the idea came from to allow decoration of my car. Yeah, that's right. This guy. This guy right here. I ruined your car actually, that was for me. That was on the way, like we drove back from LOTX. Midnight. Midnight. And we were trying to figure out more things to do. And I thought, I didn't know they would do that much though. I thought just like outside and they throw everything in your car. So initially we were thinking spray bombs and that would have been way worse. That would have been a disaster. What I think we should have done was just Sharpie markers. No, I think what you should have done is just lock your doors and- Oh no, I was okay with them decorating the inside. Yeah, well, so my seatbelt doesn't work right now. Oh my God. Yeah, it was working before, but this morning- Yeah, the driver's side doesn't work. It's like jammed or something. I actually need to fix that. You are just too dangerous to drive. Yeah, so anyway, I was just having this panic attack because I was freaking out. Anyway, I apologize to them later because honestly the event was a lot of fun and I let you finish your thought now. I'm sorry, Dennis. Oh, I don't remember. You forgot. Oh, I don't remember. I don't, okay, so there are a lot of people flying from everywhere. Tons. And there's a, even like someone like just arrived from China and bring his luggage and his mom to the event. Like two big luggage. I didn't see that guy, really? I have to help them to like store the luggage. So I even think like we might need a locker for them next year. Wow, that's crazy. Like 10, 12 hours flight. Anyway, yes, no, we do not plan to offer refunds because we consider the event a success now. I think it was fun. We actually got a ton of really positive user feedback. In fact, Marques tweeted about how he really wasn't happy with a Verge article that was about another YouTuber convention that was poorly organized and a disaster. And he kind of goes, yo, where's the positive headline for LTX? I've heard nothing but positive things. And that's cool because a lot of the time people will say something positive to your face. Like if I walk up to someone, I'm like, hey, how are you enjoying LTX? It's like when the waiter comes to your table. Like if your food sucks, do you ever say, yeah, this food is trash? You're not getting a tip today? Like. Some, I just, I sort of depend. What if it's just like on the low side of mediocre? If they come along, how's everything going with your meal? It's okay. Yeah. So there, that's not useful. So if I walk up to someone, I'm like, hey, how's LTX? And people are like, oh yeah, it's good. I have no way if they're just like shy and they think it's good. Or if they're like kind of unhappy and they're like, oh yeah, it's good. Cause I don't know, I'm meeting all these people for the first time. I can't really read them. So it's way more important to us to hear what other people say. Now I actually haven't done it yet. I need to set aside an hour for myself. And Jay made a video, Barnacles made a video and Steve from Gamers Nexus. Oh yeah. He did a really unusual video. Did you check it out? I haven't seen any of those videos. So I only skimmed a little bit of it so far. So I haven't taken away all of my thoughts from it yet. But Steve used the opportunity of coming up here for LTX to enjoy my city, my hometown. He went up to the bike trails up on Whistler and he did some downhill biking. I saw that. And recorded his thoughts on LTX while just like cruising down the trails. I thought that was really cool. And that's a really unusual thing for him to do. And he even said he apologizes for making the video right in the description. Yeah, because he just wasn't sure if people were gonna like it. I saw that but I didn't mean it. Here, let's check this out. Reviewing Linus Tech Tips's LTX while downhill biking at Whistler. Here, what's he say? We'll be posting more serious content from the event later including an interview. Oh, no, I think he took down the apology. Oh no, there it is. No, it was a comment. He pinned his own comment. Hey y'all, obviously not normal content for us. We've had nonstop travel for a few months. We hope you'll excuse this one off different content piece for now. I thought it was really cool to see people come up here, experience something different, engage with the community and do something different, not just make normal convention content because we're not trying to be Computex or CES. It's supposed to fill a gap. And honestly, this year, even though our attendance only went from about 800 to about 1200. So it's like a 50% uptake, which is a success. But it's still not huge. It's not like we're packs all of a sudden. I think the difference in creator attendance is what is the difference between LTX 2017 being like a Linus Tech Tips fan meetup and LTX 2018 being a more impactful industry event. The fact that you've got guys like Jay and Steve and Louis Rossman was there for a little while and Barnacles showing up and having a good time. Barnacles emailed me after the fact and said that he had a really hard time making a vlog there. And the reason was that he was spending so much of his time interacting with fans. And all three, Steve, I haven't actually talked to Louis yet, but Steve, Barnacles and Jay all talked to me and said they were surprised at how many people there were fans of their channels because they kind of came into it, like they came into it to support us. Like we asked them really nicely to come. They weren't paid to attend or anything. The most we were able to offer was like, look, LTX is not a super profitable event and it's still not, but we'd love to pay for your hotel and your flight if you can come up and be part of this for us. And not just for us, for the community. And they decided to do it and they came up and they were like, yeah, I was surprised at how many people here were here for me. And I was like, that is so cool. So that's where LTX turns a corner and becomes not just about us, but also about other people and other creators that can be there. There was one other one that I was really hoping would be there, but he got pulled aside for a separate thing. Anyway, all three of them have expressed interest. I'm not gonna commit anything on their behalf, but all three of them have expressed interest in coming back next year, which is super amazing and cool because Vancouver has nothing for tech events. We've got SIGGRAPH, which is very animation industry, computer design industry. It's not consumer. So I'm excited. I'm really looking forward to next year already. Me too, but then the night before, I'm probably gonna be like, yeah, everything's a disaster. Let's cancel it. I told you it will be fine. I know. People are making so much effort to this and I know you stress out, but maybe do your car again. Buy a new car and let's do that again. Or you know what? Buy a helicopter or something. I do have to say though, I think an event really needs something impactful, something truly memorable, something really different. LTX 2017 had the first ever Threadripper running. We had someone game on Threadripper for the first time there. That was really cool. LTX 2018 had the car. Nobody who tagged that car is ever gonna forget that. So even though my car is destroyed, 100% worth it, I would destroy my car for the community. Mind you, my car is only worth a couple hundred dollars. Literally asked how much when I went to buy my minivan. That was a trade-in. They offered like two or $300 or something, which is basically what you can get from a recycler. And I was like, I forget. I wouldn't take it if you wanted to give it for free. Really? It runs. First, that's a standard car. Oh, don't be, no. Don't hate on standards. Standard is good stuff. No, windshield's broken and leaking and all that. Well, it doesn't leak anymore. Really? Did you fix it? My mechanic traced the leak and pocked it up. I still, yeah, well, okay. That's dangerous to drive. Yeah, I think you're being a hater. Oach Attack asks, when can we expect more creators on Float Plane? So Luke's not here today, as you guys may or may not have noticed, because he is working on some Float Plane stuff that's super important. We've got some payments and reporting stuff that we've really got to get sorted out before we can move forward with some of the bigger plans. And that's why it actually means a lot to us that Kyle and Tech Deals are over there and kind of helping us ride out these bugs. Now, they are getting paid. They have people subscribing to them and things are working, but we're not ready to take on a huge creator. If PewDiePie came to us tomorrow and was like, I want in on this Float Plane thing, I would have to turn them away. I'd have to, I'd have no choice. Just because we're not ready yet. The actual CDN architecture is really good. And that's what we've spent a lot of our time on. So you don't get to see a lot of the actual engineering that has gone on to make it really strong and sustainable. We could scale it up actually very quickly, but some of the other stuff, reporting the payments needs some tweaking. We actually had an issue where some people were, some people are having payment issues and their support tickets were going to spam and they weren't ending up in our management system. And so I had to send us some very apologetic emails. I felt really, really bad about that. But that's why we don't want a million users overnight. All right, so should we do like a news topic or something, I guess? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's pretty flexible. Like we don't have to, does it matter? Maybe why don't we just talk about it like that? Talk about something, cause I don't really know any of this. You want me to talk about something you can do. Okay. Okay. Hold on. Oh, that flip phone. Wait, wait, go on. Flip phone? That's not a flip phone. No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, that's in tech. That's in tech, same song. You're drunk, you're drunk. Wow. Okay. Oh man. Okay, you know what? We're going to do this topic anyway. The original article is from TechCrunch. Let's go ahead and pop line this screen up here. Disney streaming services, resurrecting the Clone Wars. And I was like, oh yeah, I'll get Dennis to do this. Everyone knows Star Wars. Oh God, Star Wars again. We just talked about him, take a look. Star Wars is culturally relevant. I don't watch Star Wars. Why? Cause I just don't like fake stuff. Like, efficient, I mean, like. You don't like what? Efficient? Efficient. Fiction. Fiction. You don't like fiction. I don't. And I don't like long movies either. You don't like long movies. Two hours long, right? Two, three hours? Well, this is a TV show, but. Oh, so it's Star Wars. Some of the Star Wars movies are on the long side. So what movies do you like? I like, actually, I like TV show. I like The Office. You like The Office. Oh, this is the best. Okay, so Star Wars is nothing like The Office. No, no, no, no, no, no, you can't beat The Office. Do you like superhero movies? Like Avengers or whatever. I watched Ant-Man last week. Yeah. It's cool. Okay. I'm not like a big fan of heroes. You're not a big fan of heroes. Okay, so you don't like heroes. Okay, Deadpool. You don't like anything long. Deadpool, Deadpool, Deadpool was fun to watch. Okay, so you like kind of an irreverent sort of dark humor. Yes. Okay. Okay, Star Wars doesn't have a lot of that. Also, I don't like Lord of the Rings. You don't like Lord of the Rings? You know what? I'm not even gonna give you too hard of a time for that. I mean. Okay, are you talking Lord of the Rings trilogy or like The Hobbit? I don't know what you're talking about. It's that movie. I don't know what you're talking about. The movie, the movie. So. Well, they're both movies. Okay, I don't know. Just how about both? I watched once. I fell asleep. You fell asleep? I know, yeah. During which one? You don't even know. Oh, I don't know. Okay, were there hobbits? I'm just kidding. That's not helpful. There are all of them. I'm just kidding. I don't know. Do you like Monty Python? What is that? You don't know Monty Python. You know what? I'm gonna give you some TV homework. Okay. Okay, because I wanna understand what makes you tick. Are you familiar with Life's Too Short? I think I've been trapped with The Office for too long because I've been watching that show for almost two years. I just rewatching, rewatching. And I'm just addicted to it. Really? So I just can't get out of it. Okay. I need to try to find something new. I'm gonna get you something new and you will like it. Okay. If you like The Office. I like that kind of humor. Okay, do you like the American Office or the British Office? American. American Office. I don't get British humor. Okay. Oh. Oh, you got, oh, okay, no, I don't. Okay. Okay, do you have a hard time understanding the accent? Oh yes, that too. Oh crap. Yeah. Yeah. I can only understand American. You only understand American. Well then it's a wonder that you managed to hang around with me because I don't speak American. Canadian. I know what you mean. Same thing. I know what you mean. I mean, the accent sound is, I really, I can't tell the difference. Is this a shot at me for saying that Taiwanese and Chinese are the same thing? Wait, wait, wait. Because you kinda owed me one. Like in fairness to you, you owed me one. You owed me one here. The accent, I can't tell. Seriously, I cannot tell your accent or someone from LA. You can't tell me or John. I can tell that. Okay. But that's very interesting. No, no, because West Coast, Pacific West Coast, or Pacific Northwest especially, sorry, not Pacific West Coast, it's all Pacific if it's West Coast. Pacific Northwest, like anyone from Oregon through to Washington, like through BC, like along the West Coast. Does this sound the same? We all sound the same. Okay. No. No. Okay. Oh no, like I could meet someone from Washington State or from Oregon. I'd have no idea that they're American or Canadian. No, I wouldn't know. Okay. Whereas like Eastern Canadian or like Southern US, Eastern US, there you can pick it up like pretty quick. How about Toronto? Toronto, I don't notice much. No, not really. Like the metropolitan area is not too much. Okay. All right, so let's go ahead and talk about this Clone Wars thing. So this is unfortunate. Luke's not here on the show today because he will either be amped about this or he won't because I know that he really liked the original series and was super mad at sort of what Disney has been doing with some aspects of animated Star Wars. So it ran on Cartoon Network for five seasons. It's coming back. It was the Adventures of Anakin and Obi-Wan as well as some new characters during the Clone War. Fans praised its ability to showcase a wide range of stories, characters, and even genres. And it was canceled after Disney's acquisition of Lucasfilm with a final batch of episodes known as The Lost Missions airing on Netflix. Characters and story elements were subsequently incorporated into the animated series, Star Wars Rebels, which is more kiddy and even into the latest film Solo. Okay, fortunately that's not a spoiler. I still haven't seen Solo. Fortunately, that's not a spoiler for me though because I never watched the Clone Wars. So yesterday they announced that Clone Wars will return for 12 more episodes and it will air on Disney's upcoming streaming service. And they appear to be the end of the Clone Wars story. So all they're doing is kind of closing it out and they are treating this as a way to get people onto their streaming service as a general consumer and not necessarily the techiest person of all time. How do you feel about the concept of having to subscribe to multiple streaming services to access different shows? So you know how gaming used to all be on Steam? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then all of a sudden we had EA Origin. Oh, I actually don't like that. And then we had Ubisoft's Uplay and now we've got Epic Games Launcher. I know, I know, yeah. Battle.net game launcher. I like to keep it simple. So would you simply issue a new streaming service in favor of simplicity and just go, no, I'm only gonna subscribe to one thing. If you want me to watch it that bad, make sure it's on let's say Netflix, for example. Yeah, Netflix. That's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If there's another service like Netflix, I would, it's like Mindy Project, the second season, I don't remember. It was on Hulu before. Yeah. Only on Hulu. Yeah. So I wouldn't pay to what I was only on Netflix. I'm not gonna pay for that. But it still depends on how much you love the show though. If the office is like gone on Netflix, I will subscribe to Hulu. Would you unsubscribe from Netflix? Is the anchor show the most important thing to you? This is, ooh, this is interesting. Okay. I don't know. If that platform has like really other good shows as well, I would unsubscribe from Netflix. Really? Then I will follow that one. Okay. Interesting. So, oh, yeah, Jake's gonna have to come get it. Come get it, come get it. All right. So anyway, Disney, man, it's probably gonna be successful, but I'm really frustrated because part of the entire beauty of cable cutting was that you could get rid of that, at least here anyway, 70 to over $100 monthly fee that you were paying, and you could replace it entirely with your internet, plus maybe like if you get a basic Netflix subscription, I think it's what, like 799 if you don't get 4K? Nine, 999. Is it 999? I don't know anymore. I've got the 4K one, which I think is 1399. Oh yeah, 4K. I don't even have 4K TV. Yeah. So what's up, Ed? You're a bit out of focus. Oh, I'm leaning back. That's the problem. I can stop doing that, I'm sorry. So that was the beauty of it, was that you could get all of your content and your internet for one low price instead of having to get internet and content. But now with more and more content providers working on building streaming platforms, there's nothing we're gonna be able to do if we want to have access to an all you can eat style of content consumption. There's nothing we're gonna be able to do to avoid the rates starting to creep up. Like all of a sudden you're gonna be subscribed to Netflix and Hulu and Disney and Comcast. Comcast, what's that thing that the Vessel team left and went to? I mean, for that matter, Float Plane. You might subscribe to individual creators. What's that? Crave TV? No, not Crave, that's a local thing, I think. Oh, I can't remember. It was like something that I couldn't figure out why anyone would care about. Verizon's streaming service. Blah, blah, blah. Well, there's so many. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I think Hulu doesn't work in Canada. That's, and yeah, I did look at that. Apparently they killed it in May. Oh. The Verizon TV streaming service is probably, oh wow, oh wow, these articles are brutal. Holy crap, here, hold on. I'll screen share with you guys so you can read along with me here. So this one is probably not gonna happen. This one's not too bad. Verizon is finally putting its terrible streaming service out to past year, says BGR.com. No one even seems to know what it was. Go 90, go 90. Made multi-billion dollar takeovers of AOL and Yahoo, brands known for providing email scams to seniors and leaking billions of customer accounts. Wow, this is a very, this is a very colored account of things, and now go 90. It's public and very expensive, millennial-friendly online streaming service. I think the key to creating something that doesn't appeal to millennials is trying to target millennials. Like, what does that even mean? What is a millennial-oriented streaming service? You're technically a millennial. What's, what's that word? Okay, so millennials, I forget what exactly the millennial age here. So it's a generation. So anyone born between 1981 and 1996. Okay, okay, yeah, I am. Yeah, so I'm at the outer, I'm at the older end and you're solidly in there. So what would appeal to you as a millennial? What would appeal to me, like what? Exactly, exactly. What would appeal to me? Money. Money, oh, forget it. I don't, I don't know. You're a marketing executive. Okay. You have to market to millennials. What do you got? Like something like fun, like. Um. Fun. That's fine, you're not a marketing executive. It's okay. Speaking of marketing, we've got some sponsors for the show that I'm gonna tell you guys about. First up is, I love Squarespace. Squarespace provides 24-7 support via live chat and email so that you can build your own beautiful website. It's just 12 bucks a month to start and you get a free domain if you buy Squarespace for the year. 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So the original article here is from nine to five Mac. I can't remember if these guys were one of the ones that unfairly slammed me over the iMac Pro thing and now feels bad, but hasn't said anything. Actually, were these guys the ones that claimed in their article that they reached out to me, but actually I never heard from them? That would be interesting. Maybe I don't wanna promote these guys. Nine to five Mac, iMac, Linus, let's see. Story of ill-informed YouTuber. Oh no, that's Apple Insider. Hold on a second. iMac, Linus, broken, let's see. Apple Insider, Mac rumors. Okay, no, okay. I don't actually see anything on nine to five Mac. Okay, cool. Nice guys, nine to five Mac. Here's how it throttles with Final Cut Pro X exports. Yeah, so we actually did a stream of that today from my office where after seeing Dave Lee's video, I was like, okay, well, let's see how long it'll take us from packaged to thermal throttling with the MacBook Pro, with the 2018 MacBook Pro. We got the Core i9 version. So that's like a $7,000 notebook that thermal throttles, if you hit it with a really intense load, basically immediately. And then if you hit it with a less intense load after like a couple minutes, it's pretty brutal. And it's something that I'm starting to not like wonder if Apple is doing on purpose, but it's something that I'm starting to get really frustrated that Apple is doing on purpose. So the original MacBook, you guys may or may not remember this, but we did a video where we water-cooled it. That was a passively cooled machine, if I recall correctly. It's been a while, but we water-cooled it by basically taking the entire machine, putting some like putty in the screw holes, and then like putting it in a tray of water that wasn't so deep that it would come up and go into the ports or into the keyboard. And we were able to get something to the tune of nearly double the performance out of it. But that was supposed to be a thin and light. It was supposed to be a computer with unprecedented like unprecedented like portability. That was the whole point of it. And so this is a pretty different type. So basically we accepted it, but now they're doing this with professional machines like the iMac Pro that thermal throttle is like crazy. And we opened it up, we saw the thermal solution. It was very clearly not going to handle a Vega graphics card and up to an 18 core processor. Apple ships that thing with up to an 18 core processor. And then now this MacBook Pro where they went and without making significant changes to the thermal solution, which already had a hard time with the core i7 that was in it before, they went and they put two more computing cores in it. They went and they put a core i9 in it. So your performance actually isn't any better, but Apple's charging you more for it. And on paper, it seems to be faster. So it's gotten to the point now where it looks not like bad design, but it looks like intentional deception. Like if you bought a car that was 600 horsepower instead of 400 horsepower, yes, horsepower is not the be all and end all of car speed, we know. But if you bought a car that was 600 instead of 400 horsepower, but there was some other component inside it that limited it so that both of them delivered 350, how mad would you be if you paid for the extra package? And why did they sell me that? Why do we accept this from Apple? Like you make it like easier for me to understand what you're trying to say. Yeah, now I get it. Cause I couldn't contribute anything. You need to do that. Ours was throttling well under its base clock. Even just doing things like exporting and final cut. Very frustrating. So I don't know. I just, it. So they have something to limit their something. Well, the problem is that if you hit it with a really hard load, the CPU reaches a hundred degrees basically instantly. And so it'll turn itself down to protect itself. That's a safety mechanism that Intel has built into the chip because otherwise, I mean, if you just let it get as hot as it wants, you could cook on it and it would burn itself out very quickly. Oh. People are like Linus, you aren't supposed to encode on a laptop. Why is that wearing two glasses? I'm also wearing two shirts. Yeah. Yeah, it's really hot. That's fine. Okay, this is actually how I wear my sunglasses. Oh really? I just put them over. Really? I lost my, the one with prescription. What's wrong with, you can't really tell if this is something. Yes, you can. You can. Yes, you can. Like sunglasses, you can tell. It's only that same shape. I seriously though, I do that every day and no one look at me like weird ever. Maybe you just can't tell the difference between how they normally look at you and how they look at you when you're wearing two pairs of sunglasses. Excuse me. Like maybe the shirt was already enough that they were gonna be looking at you whatever way they look at you. Oh yeah, fine, fine. Oh man. Okay. In other news, in an internal document distributed to Apple authorized service providers, Apple has confirmed the third generation keyboard on the 2018 MacBook Pro is equipped with a membrane to quote, prevent debris from entering the butterfly mechanism. So publicly, Apple has only said that it features an improved third generation keyboard for quieter typing, but some people suspected that the silicon membrane was actually to prevent crumbs from getting into it and ruining it. This is another thing that's very frustrating about Apple that they can't just communicate openly with their audience. Like we make mistakes and most of the time, people are actually pretty cool. Like if you're like, hey, we screwed up, sorry. People will be like, cool, just please don't do that again. Maybe the idea is that Apple doesn't wanna have that conversation because if people say don't do that again and they're already like, and the channels of communication are open, then they have to commit not to do it again and they don't want to. Is that the issue here? Oh boy. I don't know. Very frustrating. In other news, Ryzen 3000 series might have more than eight cores. So I guess this wouldn't be that huge of a surprise. I mean, a big key of the design of AMD's Zen architecture, their Ryzen processors, was the modular design that allows them to kind of to use Intel's terminology, just glue processors together. So if they wanted to have, if they wanted to take Threadripper, let's say, from 16 cores last generation to up to 32 cores this generation, all they'd have to do is glue together some CCX modules. So MSI has dropped a hint that AMD might be countering Intel's rumored eight core 1151 processor with a 12 core processor. So mainstream computers are all of a sudden, like heavily, heavily multi-core, or at least if these rumors are true, that will be true in the near future. I'm personally excited to see the next couple of years as these trickle down to the actual mainstream and we get to start experiencing programs that were built from the ground up for a very multi-threaded world. What else is cool? WD is shutting down one of their hard drive factories. Now to be clear, it's not like this is their only factory and it's not like hard drives are going away. I think it's the one in Malaysia, that's in TechWin. So they're just shutting down some of their hard drive manufacturing. I mean, hard drives are becoming less of a consumer product and they're becoming more of an enterprise product. That's just the transition that's happening between the consumer or prosumer. Like we still have more hard drives in the building than we do SSDs, fun fact. Do you know that? I don't know. But the reason you don't know that is that none of them are in your computer. Oh yeah. Your laptop runs an SSD. Your desktop runs an SSD. I don't even have a hard drive. But we could never run anywhere near the kind of operation that we do if we didn't have some hard drives because the cost to capacity ratio for hard drives is still much better than solid state drives. So if you have any kind of bulk data needs, you're gonna need hard drives for a long time. According to, oh, Corning announced Gorilla Glass 6. Yes, that's what you need Linus. That's fun. That's what you need. Look, look, why you need it? You know what's funny is I've actually broken very few screens in my day, but I finally broke my iPhone 6 like two nights ago. Oh wow. Yeah, I was listening to something in the bathroom and I like was grabbing a towel or something and I kind of dropped it a bit. And then when I went to catch it, I ended up like pushing it with the towel or something instead of actually catching it. I thought you're good at catching now. And I effectively threw it at the floor. Like it was propelled towards the floor, face down, boom, screen cracked. It's funny Linus, I dropped my phone so many times. This is S8. You've got a grip on it though. Oh, sometimes I didn't have it. Oh yeah, I guess you didn't use it. Okay, so like not even a scratch. I don't have any protection. Like it's just so strong. I don't know why. So Gorilla Glass 6 will apparently survive up to 15 drops from one meter height and can be up to two times better than Gorilla Glass 5. Now with that said, Gorilla Glass 5 wasn't known for being the most impact resistant one or was it? No, that one wasn't very scratch resistant. It was impact resistant. So it should survive drops from higher heights, but more importantly has been engineered to survive multiple drops. And it should have the same amount of scratch resistance as previous generations. It's in production now and is available to smartphone makers. So it's expected to reach the market in the next several months. Oh, how much would I love it if the rumored upcoming Note device had Gorilla Glass 6? That would be super exciting. All right, I think that's pretty much it. Everything else in here. Walmart might launch a video streaming service. Oh, I knew it. Oh boy, more video streaming services. They're thinking of a service priced below $8 a month because Netflix has been steadily raising their prices, which are now between eight and 14. Amazon charges nine. They may also consider a no cost ad supported service. They already own Vudu. I did not know that. A service for buying and renting movies. And Vudu launched its own ad supported streaming service, Movies on Us, a few years ago, which I have never heard of, which should give you some idea of how well Movies on Us is doing. And that's it. Thank you for tuning into the WAN show. Thank you, Dennis, for joining me on the WAN show. And we will see you guys again next week. Wow, that's so fast. Same bad time, same bad channel. Just remember, they can hear you right now. Can they? They can. I don't think so. Yes, they can. I'm gonna sing a song. No, they can't. Sing whatever song you want, sucker. ["Lもも恋依虚bloMOVY jeunt ma feature итоге ddgrspもうも恋依虚적인