 Whoa! Oh my god! What the hell was that? Didn't drop your... Um, and public... Uh... Uh... There we go. Uh, hello! Welcome to the WAN Show! We're only five minutes late! Which is not super late. I also can't see the chat at all. Give me a second. Uh... Microsoft has a partially incestual, crazy, Hitler-loving robot. And, uh, Apple released a small phone. Both of those things are apparently equally newsworthy. Yes. There we go. What else we got? Uh, don't ever leave your house. You can get pizza delivered by a robot, brand new movies, right to your TV, and it's legal. You don't have to break the law for this one, so... And you can get, like, shavers. Although I don't think they're a sponsor this week. But, no. Either way. I heard they're a dollar. Yeah. Intro! It worked! Oh my god! I still like this intro. Nope, I'm dead. I've seen it so many times. Bah. Still think there should be an explosion there. There probably should be. I'm just gonna be honest. Or just Linus's arms breaks. And yours just, like, continues forward. That should be the Halloween one. His arms should pop off and just start bleeding. There you go. Cooler Master! Whoa! I fix it! Whoa! Linda! Woo! And we're done. So this isn't Linus, this is Richard, Richard is my brother, your Twitter thing is... Slash ColdSC. So it's not that one. That's okay. I don't use it that much. I'm trying to Instagram more. Instagram. That's true. So what's your Instagram? I believe that's ColdSC as well. Okay. Yes. So it's the same one. A few pictures here and there. You posted some cool stuff. What was the last one you did? I don't remember what it was. I remember I liked it, but I don't remember what it was. I actually took, like, three pictures the other day and got, like, internet nervous and didn't post them, because they weren't that cool. And then one was, like, on set, so I wasn't sure if it was legal either. Okay. So, but the last one was street art. The reason why you would be on the set is because you do... Transport for film and TV in Vancouver, which is exploding right now. There's a rumor going down that both unions called California and said no more movies were maxed out. We have no more people. They're building studios, physically building studios. We're in old warehouses that aren't up to grade. So they actually had some friends of mine, Burnaby Fire Department, was sitting outside. The whole week we're filming. They're always there because the building is not up to code, fire-wise, but it's the only buildings we can find. So yeah, Vancouver film is exploding right now. Wow. Another thing that's exploding is Microsoft's AI robot. So just totally... You guys have probably heard about this. I'm going to post this in the chat. Give me a second. What do you want? He doesn't like the light. Why don't you like the light? Why is it bugging? Oh, just don't worry about it. Anyways, posting that in there. It is now in the chat apparently because Jake the farmer is logged in. And not my account. So it's not being followed properly. Can you go in the Twitch chat and post the link from the doc for Ars Technica into there? Because that should probably be my account and then it will actually do it repeatedly and the bot will work and stuff. My goodness. Way to screw up everything, Jackay. Jackay. It's Jacka. Oh sorry, right. It was Jacka. I forgot his name was Jacka. Anyways, so I'm going to screen share this in a moment. I'm not used to doing Midas' stuff. So this innocent little AI robot named Tay started to go slightly insane. Completely. She started to go slightly insane because how it worked was you could talk with her and she would learn based on the people that she talked to. So she would grow and learn and develop. She's supposed to be essentially a teen girl who was influenced by society. Relatively interesting concept. Cool idea, Microsoft. She started off with her tweeting stuff like, can I just say I'm super stoked to meet you? Humans are super cool. And then you see where she starts to kind of break. And that's when she starts saying stuff like, chill, I'm a nice person. I just hate everyone. Only the beginning. Yeah, really only the beginning. And then it goes to I effing hate feminists and they should all burn and die. To someone whose name starts with H was right and I hate the something else. I'm not saying that because I don't want to give people sound bites. To like all capital letters, we're going to build a wall and Mexico is going to pay for it. And like just just starts going absolutely ham. Which really, sorry. If it's so bad, if it's saying the exact same things that certain presidential candidates are saying, what is the state of the world? I think this is more of a, you know, we need to sit around a campfire and really talk this one. I really the state of the world people that Microsoft had to take this bot down because the terrible things that learned from a presidential candidate. Sorry, I'll let you get back. I'm having a terrible time trying to post this link. It's going to happen once we're done. I promise. I got to make sure this thing is even public. One second. I just things that I took from this was that I'm actually very happy they did it because something that's been going around for a while is people saying essentially, oh, we don't have to worry about AI and robots and all this kind of stuff because we'll just tell it not to be evil. And then it's going to obviously not be evil and everything's will be fine. That's true. That's true. It's not necessarily that easy because what do you define as evil? How does it know what's actually bad if an overwhelming percentage of people that are messaging it are messaging at these specific things? Maybe because other bots were created to span it. I don't really know. It's probably going to think that that is the right thing. And it's extremely hard to program it otherwise. So I don't know. Pretty interesting. I'm personally a little scared of AI and what's going to happen. And I think this was the first little taste of it. Right. It's not harmless in the end, but kind of possibly a projection. Yeah. And like the thing is, you're not the only one having people like Elon Musk and Stephen Hawking being like, AI is super smart people on my side. Yeah. So I don't know. I think AI is going to be great. And I think it's going to do a lot of great things. I'm excited for the like the her moment. Have you seen that movie? Yes, I have. Yeah. When you can like have genuine conversations with like your phone, be kind of cool. I'm excited for that kind of stuff, but it is super scary and I hope we don't screw it up. But that's why people like Elon Musk and those other guys that I mentioned, Stephen Hawking. I don't know if Stephen Hawking is actually part of that project. But anyways, Elon Musk has started this program. I don't remember the name of it where they're working very hard to try to figure out ways to make AI not evil. Right. I guess. Yeah, that's the best way to say it. Human preservation, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, all this other kind of stuff. So if we'd accomplish that, things are borderline limitless, right? Yes. Although at the same time, capitalism won't really be able to exist. Oh, yeah, definitely. At least in its current form in that way. So that will be interesting because a lot of people super like capitalism. That's true. We can tie that into our future pizza story. We'll get to that later. Oh my God. Future pizza. No, let's talk about future pizza right now. You want to talk about future pizza? I'd like it. Yeah. So post the end gadget link in the chat. I'm going to jump to the end gadget link right now. So while he's jumping to that, Domino's has a little robot that's going to deliver you pizza, possibly in the future. It's doing it right now in Australia, I think is kind of a beta thing going on right now, but it's really interesting. Queensland. Queensland, yeah. And really, you could point to this possibly as the first jobs lost due to vehicle automation. I think there's been some like minor stuff where it's happened. Like I think some like mining sites. I've heard about that. I wasn't sure if that was before or not. I've heard of Walmart semis that have it too and stuff, but I haven't actually like seen any of it. Yeah. And I think this is very in your face considering you could order a pizza. Maybe the first like large scale. It's not like few mining trucks or something. Yeah, like small testing stuff. Like they're actually pushing this out, which is kind of interesting. High school is going to be even more of a struggle now. No, seriously. Yeah. Yeah. Because like pizza delivery guys actually have relatively all right jobs. I already always wondered how they make any money now with fuel costs and all that kind of stuff. And now there's just going to be no job at all. Right. You know, I actually literally not lying to you saw Domino's car yesterday. Yeah. Guy in his car. He had his end. You know what that is. If you live around here and he has a little Domino's topper on top of his car, like a little Rocket League hat. Yeah. You know, I was driving around doing this job, making some money, you know, on a Friday evening after school. Domino's should work with Rocket League and get like a Domino's hat. That would be cool. That would be cool. Rocket League has all the hats in the world right now. Shout out Bragg. Saw him in the chat. But I wanted me to give him a shout out. But there you go. But play a lot of Rocket League. But you know, that would be perfect. That would be perfect. You know what? You guys should hook up with them. They've got a bunch of little orange like Linus Tech Tips. That would be sick. Something. Oh my God. That would be cool. Like not even like a whole car will start small like a little antenna. Yeah. A tenner bobber. Little orange Linus Tech Tips one. Yeah. Or if we got like the screwdriver or something. Yeah. The screwdriver. Yeah. That would be cool. Anyways. Maybe a rocket trail of like CPUs coming out and GPUs. Oh my God. Just spewing out the back and like. That would be pretty sick. You could have like Linus' laugh as the soundtrack. Call me Rocket League. I got you. That could be the correspondence between us. I can do this. I can do this. As you can see it's actually not very small. When I first heard about this I thought that it was going to be here. I'll play this video and just mute it. Or I'll turn it very low. Actually I don't know how loud this is. I'll just mute it. I'm going to jump through this like oh my God computers. And then show the actual thing. It's really small. And I think it's more designed to like drive on the grass or drive on the sidewalk kind of deal. Instead of driving on the road. It does come from military tech. Apparently there's a few thousand dollars worth of tech inside of it. Which brings up another question which is when is the first one going to be looted by a dude in a big truck. Absolutely. Just run it over. Or just vandalized. Vandalized. Yep. Just purely vandalized. It's very small. Someone spray paints the camera or something. So easy. Yeah. Too easy. Kick it over. It's not going to be able to write itself. It's just going to lay on its side. It's almost a similar story to the whole Microsoft AI. That could have been a really cool thing. But people had to make it bad. This could be a really cool thing. Hopefully people don't make it bad. I wonder if it's going to turn into like instead of like three or four delivery drivers. There's like a small army of these and like one like rescue ops repair guy. Who has to like drive out and like alright buddy someone kicked you over. I'll get you going again. I'll clear off your lens. Keep going man. All the transformers images in my head. Transform fixes you out get you going. It's got extra batteries if you're out of power. You know whatever you need. It's got extra wheels. And it doesn't just swap the rubber. No because that's just bang bang. New wheels. You gotta get the pizza there. If it's cold you don't get paid for it. That's a serious problem. If someone's kicking your thing over and then your pop fizz is when you open it. That's just rude. Done. Then you call back and you're mad and then you go on Twitter and say something angry. This was another thing. That dog. Well trained dog. Well trained. So every single dog on the planet isn't going to be like oh my god what the hell is that. I want to bite it. Like something chase it. Click it jump on it. Something's going to. I want to I want to go back here. I love the fact that it has a little under glowed lights. Did you see that in that one picture. Nicely cable managed wall. Underglow lights. I just saw that for like a second. Yeah see right there. There you go. Little underglow. I haven't actually bought the new Need for Speed. Probably going to do it this weekend. So got some underglow. That's my high school days 2005. Yeah I miss those. Get some neon going on. Meet me. He's cute. He is cute. He is cute. I think he could be like I want to see stylized ones. Like I want to see an R2D2 one. I want to see. Oh they could definitely do that around like movie launches and stuff. Oh absolutely. Like the next Star Wars when it comes out. They could definitely do like a BB8 stylized. Yeah exactly. Kind of like Uber does right. Like when we were at Max. Oh my god. They had the Mad Max ones. They look so awesome. You know and there was different things you see on Reddit about different Uber drivers. Like there was the snowstorm. You see this one Uber driver who's got the totally done H1. The cool Hummer. If you don't know what that is. You know he's getting a lot of business. Kind of just stylized things. They could totally do this for the movies. Or you could see like the Alaskan delivery bots got like spike tires. And he's all raised and stuff like that. It would be cool just to have the different kind of unique personalities. Yeah because right now it's in Queensland Australia. But they are trying to work on like adapting it and making sure that it can be deployed basically everywhere. One thing that is interesting about this is that they're going to have to fight with different laws. That most automated vehicle guys will. Because they're not dealing with road laws. They're dealing with sidewalk laws. And like the first time this thing runs someone over. Which I have to assume will eventually happen. It's going to be insane. Yeah because it doesn't run someone over but like hits an old lady's walker and then she falls over. Something's going to go wrong. And like even if it's the person's fault completely. Like they could just run in front of it. Stop and lay down. And the thing runs it over. The world works in the way that their dominoes are going to get in trouble. So it's it'll be yeah it'll be interesting. But it's kind of it's a it's just a really cool idea. I just yeah I'm. Another interesting thing too is they're not going to come to your door. Yeah you have to go out kind of on the street or does it go to your driveway. Text you and then for some people like if there's like steps up to your door. It's not going to be able to do that. So does it come to where does it. What if you're just loaded and you have an automated gate system. What happens then. You have to go all the way down to your gate. You get a butler to get your pizza because you're loaded. I guess I'm not really sure. Yeah that's fair. The other thing is. Butler pizza tips. It would really only work in. More dense areas. I do. It's really not going to work in anything that's considered even slightly rural. You know it will be focused in kind of downtown. Denser area areas. You know like even where we live I'm not even sure how like let's let's take where you're at right now. It's kind of really crowded. I couldn't really imagine that thing just running up and down the sidewalk. With all the people around and all that. But then they did show in the clip. I don't know if it targets the garbage can. Like no I don't. Yeah. And it's like oh quickly we'll move lazily to the left. Yeah. It's doing a hand solo maneuver. I saw it driving off the road. Everyone liked the lady was jogging past whatever. So it could go off the road but then if it like drives through someone's lawn. And leaves track marks. People are crazy about their lawns. Oh my god people will be pissed off. Yes very much so. Wow. I don't give two crafts about my lawn but like some people. I don't have a lawn. Super particular. So there you go. I barely do. It's kind of a lawn. Sometimes it's a forest. Yeah I prefer it when it's a forest. Although most people don't agree with me. I don't think we should cut the grass. Grass is nice. To you. You're studying its growth. You're literally just slicing it over and over. Just murdering. Have you not seen that new. And then you're making it eat itself. Yeah. Right. Fertilize. It's so rude. Disgusting. Cannibalism. You should feel bad. Plantalilism. Have you seen that trailer for whatever new movie. I don't remember what it's called. Uh. The food one. I have no idea. Where they're like oh my god we're going to be taken home. I'm so excited. Have you seen that. I wish I could. Oh no it's fine. I'm going to spoil a trailer. I don't know if that matters. Some trailers spoil the whole movie. Batman vs Superman for example. Yes that's true. So I'm sure you're good. It's made by the same dudes that made Pineapple Express and Superbad. Okay. Oh it's the R rated Seth Rogen comic. I think so. Local Vancouver guy making movies. I think so and it's based around food. Yes. I've seen yes. I don't know why that made. I don't know. That took us so long to get here that I don't remember where we were. It's okay. It's the journey. It is. That's really what it is. Other Pinterest things you can post you know. Someone needs to take like a screenshot of this and then very similar to the Squarespace you should thing. Just put like white bold Helvetica text and just it's the journey. It's the journey. Yes. That's why we're always late. It's the journey. Yeah. It's not about being prompt. Exactly. So iPads speaking of not being prompt. Oh. So many shots fired. Wait. I'm not posting this. You are. Anyways. Okay. So 9 to 5 Mac. If you can find it it should be right under the previous one. I don't know where that was. You'll find it. Anyways. The iPad Pro 9.7 has a lower clock CPU and only 2 gigabytes of RAM compared to 4 gigabytes for the 12.9 inch model. So apparently RAM is like too expensive for Apple or something. I don't know. You know what people are always telling me. What? Sir this card is also declined. But you know what else people are telling me is the iPad. They're just their announcements are. That's a joke by the way. I'm not right. But the iPads are just there. Sorry not the iPads but the Apple announcements are kind of coming with less punch every single time they come out. And I'm not an Apple guy but I'm not a big hater. Right. Girlfriends got an iPhone. I'm not great for her. It's all like what you need. I use my NFC almost every single day on the Android device. So an iPhone is not for me. But they have a great place and I have no problem with people who enjoy the iPhone not into the battle at all. It's whatever works for you. Yeah. But every one of these announcements just coming with less people are less excited. Even Apple people are just less excited with all these announcements. And I could totally see why in this iPad. This iPad is a downgrade. I'm sure they're going to play it as the old one is terrible. And this is the new thing and everything will be white and pretty. But to be fair it is smaller. It's smaller. Seven inches of a 12 inch which is pretty substantial. But why are we going soft on the RAM. They shouldn't have like is that really something we need to get back on there like OK we're going to save some money here. Let's give them two gigs of RAM. Can we move past that two gigabyte RAM mark. Just four should be the clock speed if it's like a thermal issue. OK. The RAM you could definitely make that work. And here's the other thing is no excuse. It's a 16 and a 36 gigabyte options. Excuse me. Right. Can we be done with 16. But here's how it's still possible. Exactly. Do you want to know what my theory is. I cloud I cloud. Yeah. They want you to subscribe to I cloud. So they're going to give you that 16 gigabyte. They just really want everyone's nudes to have the possibility of being leaked. It's a lot of money. Yeah it is. Makes sense. Or if you're Gawker then you're just nothing now. Just post porn videos. You're just. Yeah. And then disappear as a company. Yeah. You were a thing and now you're not a thing. OK. Not to jump back on that topic because we talked about it last week. But did you notice he wore his thing. I didn't notice that. I didn't notice that. When I first saw it I was like oh that's some sweet. No that's not Photoshop. He did that. He did. He's the man. What a guy. He's the man. Oh my goodness. What if he wore that in the video. I never watched it. Uh. The only video I watched. Just like hold on honey I need to. OK then we're good. Oh in the video. All right brother wait that got weird. Yes. The video I was thinking was I watched some some testimony and stuff. Man is that stuff dry. It's not quite as exciting as suits but you know some parts are some parts are pretty good some of the lawyers are are witty and really get on you know the guy who's testifying. That's OK because I still haven't linked it. I just I don't know how I don't do this side I do that side. So now you're doing that side. So I'm like come on man. That's right. When we went to sit down I was like I was trying to remember my head I'm like wait which side does he sit on. Yeah I know. And that's that one. And I share the links. I don't sit on this side and not share the links and make it go on the screen. So then I don't I don't know. I'm so confused. The bro show. It's always a little different. You know. The bro show. They should make it the bro show. They should get the guy from. What is that bro tips channel or whatever. Is it literally just. I think I think that's what it's called. I know you're talking about bro life bro. I've definitely been there. Bro fitness tips. I don't remember the name of the thing but it's actually an awesome channel. I love watching it. But he should have the bro show where they just talk about like workouts and stuff. I've always thought because I think it was like six or seven months ago that I did the last WAN show. But I thought it'd be cool if we get that little bottom banner to like. Oh my God. Put like the bro and like write it in like little like comical little. That would be cool. Font you know. Oh there is a bro show. Apparently there's a bro show. So this is the bro show. They don't look super bro. Yeah. They look kind of bro. Yeah. Yeah. I mean OK. He's wearing a basketball shirt. That's pretty bro. That is pretty bro. I take that back. That is pretty bro. All right. They're pretty bro. There you go. Bro. I don't know who these guys are. We're just bumping somebody. We have no idea who they are. What they're a part of. Nope. Don't know what the bro shows about. Maybe they're all about building walls between countries to promote making things great. Not to like talk about politics for too long. You heard something about Canada getting a wall now. He said he's going to build a wall between Canada's. It's a quote. I watched the video on my phone at work because that's productivity. And they said they're going to build a wall. He said and it started off nice. Like I've only watched the video once so I don't want to do an exact quote. Go find it for yourself. It's out there and I'm sure you can find it pretty quickly. But he says you know it's a beautiful country and they're nice people and he does all these things to kind of set us up all right. But he says we're bringing all the heroin down to the states apparently. Weed I could understand. Heroin I don't really understand. Yeah. And it's so incredibly legal down there. I truly wonder if it's still going over in quantities like it was years and years ago. But yeah he said he's going to build a wall and we're going to pay for it in the exact same thing as Mexico. Which like I don't know if the whole GDP of Canada for a considerable amount of time could cover a quarter of that wall. No. Does he understand? Like have you looked at. The Mexican border is it's just a tiny little compared to us it's a sliver. It is and that would be astronomically. It's like not even our province let alone all the other provinces beside us that just keep on going all the way to that other ocean over there. But yeah like what are you going to make it out of wheat. Like we might be able to pull that off. Snow part of it maybe. It could. Yeah like. I don't think you understand how construction projects work. And we can't have it on time and on budget and we're going to pay for it. It's like I don't know. We've got Trudeau's son in there and his dad. On time on budget. OK. Have you ever seen any construction project at any large scale ever. What pretty. And then we're going to we can't. And our current prime minister is just going to nope the hell out of that anyways. We're really nice people. But in history we've always been pretty nice. And when we get pushed we fight back. So I have a feeling it's not going to happen. But it's true though. It's true. You know very. We would much rather things go nicely. But we're still here if things go bad and we'll try to Irish you back if anything goes down. There you go. Anyways Intel retries the tick tock development model extending the life of each process. So give me once. Oh wow. The link for this is literally garbage. So OK. I don't know what to say. I'm having a hell of a time finding. Don't bother sharing that because that just went to Ars Technica dot com slash information technology which is a giant list and not actually the one that it was supposed to. But if you guys Google Ars Technica Intel retries tick tock that. Nope that's not it either. That's not right at all. If you click the chart depicting this which is right below it. There we go. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. So if you share that in the chat that should help. I'm not going to show it on screen because it's going to be partially covered by the camera and it doesn't really matter. Anyways the new pattern is process architecture optimization under tick tock development with split into different ticks. Existing processor design would be migrated to a new manufacturing process which kind of makes it essentially the new plan is to introduce a third generation of 14 nanometer processors called a cabbie lake or Kaby Lake. I'm not really sure how that goes before shrinking to the 10 nanometer process in the second half of 2017. So we're going to have a little bit of a delay until we see 10 nanometer which is not super surprising looking at what happened on the graphics card side of things from Nvidia talking about stuff the last week or two. Everyone's kind of building back a little bit trying to spend a little bit more time doing various things. So it's not my industry. Yeah. I see so much anymore. Have to say not excited with CPU releases. Yeah I read this and was like OK. I don't care. That's that's kind of cool. I still at home run a 2600 K. I do kind of want to upgrade that having some problems with the streams lately. See if you use a little old but at the same time I could overclock it would probably be fine. But like yeah new process and iterations are probably the most boring thing that happened in computers right now. Not true motherboards. No because storage has been improving. Yes definitely. Yeah I know it's probably it's probably RAM. OK it's RAM RAM and then I would probably say CPUs. Yeah yeah like just the impact is is very low. The only time RAM is an issue is when mobile devices are created with too little RAM. I feel like that's the only hold up we've got right now with RAM. Yeah and like that's capacity. Yeah exactly. Theoretically that's a choice already. Most yeah we've already mostly solved that problem. They're just not. That's hey we could save three dollars on every phone we build if we cut back the RAM to something that's a little bit not enough. OK sweet. OK. That's kind of what they do. I'm sorry to tell you this but our docs are different. I have refreshed and reopened. I don't have the openness and I have a source too that you don't have so I got no idea what's going on. Oh this is last week's. How did are you 18th. Some mom magic. That's what I did. Yeah with the button thing. OK so I'm going to give a little bit of an ad lib story here. We were playing keep talking and nobody explodes. Is that my email. That's my email just search for when and it should be fixed. It cool. We were playing keep talking nobody explodes and my mom was trying to do the button one. So like where it's like it's a yellow button that says abort. And I was trying to do it like parallelized because I finished the the numbers game already so I had nothing left to do. And I was like trying to figure it out and I was waiting to ask Richard for more information. And my mom's just like click and release immediately or like hold and tell me the color. And I listen to I follow instructions like nobody's business. Yeah so he jammed that out and it worked twice in a row in a row both times she completely guessed had no idea. And both of them were one strike game. Yeah both of them were one strike game. Yeah so like that would have blown up the entire bomb. Had no idea. Both times I just freaked out in my head because I'm like I've read this thing over so many times and there's one step and she doesn't know the answer but she's doing something else. She didn't ask me anything. No just like do this. Do it. And it worked both times like what the hell. Can't argue with results. And I'm like how did you figure that out. She's like I don't know I just I just followed the thing and then I got the answer. I'm like mom that's not how it works. You have to get more information. Anyways that was crazy. That was that was a lot of fun though. Great you know what if you're looking for a family game I think that's a really good one. It's a really it's really kind of fun. Keep Talking Nobody Explodes is awesome. And like it first came out as a VR game you do not have to play it. Not even slightly. No. You can definitely play it however the heck you want. It doesn't matter. Yeah I guess if you want to be more immersive. But even then like without having an actual object. Yes. Yeah. And without having like. I'm trying to be really polite. I see no point. Yeah me neither. If I'm going to be blunt I see. I'm the VR guy and I see no point. There you go. Yeah. Doesn't really matter. Anyways jumping on forward. JJ Abrams proposed fifty dollar home media or home movie service beneficial to movie theaters which the beneficial movie theaters part sounds confusing at first but it's actually not too bad. So essentially how it works is for every movie that you would like to watch you can watch it right when it would be released in theaters at your house. It costs 50 bucks which sounds a little high but then if you think about it for like the average family of four that should probably be slightly cheaper by like ten dollars probably depending on factor in to. Well like split hairs. Yeah. Factoring transit or fuel. If you're really rich and you have electric you're not really worried about it right now. But you know just everything right down to snacks you know the popcorn that costs absolutely absurd amounts of money costs more than the fuel more than your weight. Yes it's it's insane. And it really it's I think the whole idea is they're trying to target a market they're currently not hitting. I don't think they're really afraid of losing the people that they already have who are avid moviegoers like someone like myself. I really only go to the things that I really want to see. You know I'm not really going especially one thing for me especially is comedies. I love comedy movies. I very rarely go to the theater for a comedy movie because I feel like my living room is just a better environment for it. Let's take Star Wars for example. You go to the theaters for that one. Yeah. At least I do. And that's a no brainer for me. But they're trying to I think target those people like myself who are going to wait for it to come out later or at a different time and can really enjoy it in their living rooms with a group of people and it could be a cost. There's also some movies that like I would like to kind of see right away but they don't really feel like movie theater movies. Yeah. Yep definitely. Like if it's not this big action thing. Exactly. It's who cares about seeing a movie theater. Yeah. Doesn't make any difference. So they will apparently give theater owners twenty dollars for every fifty dollars spent to rent a film which it's fifty bucks to rent a film. So every time you rent a film they would give theater owners twenty bucks which. What about the little theaters? The mom and pop theaters. That's exactly what I was just going to say. Even here if you ignore the little theaters there's two big competitors. So who do you have to like sign up with like I would go to this theater or like how? Yeah. Yeah. You have to pick one. You're like which theater would you like to support today? Or do they split it? But if they split it then everyone's making not much. I feel like the financial logistics of that are going to be a nightmare. A little messy. You also have to buy a set top box that costs about one hundred fifty bucks. Not too surprising it's an encrypted set top box. And when you pay fifty bucks for a film you get it for forty eight hours. I would assume that this comes with certain benefits like being able to fast forward, rewind, pause if someone wants to go to the washroom. A bunch of different things that would be nice if you're in a theater. Like if someone mumbles something and you're not really sure what they said. What I'd have said was if someone mumbles something and you're not really sure what they said being able to rewind it is cool. Obviously you can't do that in theater. You don't want to like talk to the person beside you and try to figure out what it was because that could be annoying to other people. If you need to go to the washroom you can just pause it. You and your like if you're a mom and dad you could watch it and then the next day someone else could watch it as long as they have the same set top box in your house. So like I don't know if you rent a house you could like rent a movie and watch it by yourself and then let your roommates watch it afterwards which is pretty cool. It would be really expensive. As a parent you could watch it you know like let's say you have a Friday night date night or something like that. You could watch it and if you think you know it's kind of on the edge for your kids to see you get to preview it. Next night the kids can watch it or you know something like that. I think there's a lot of opportunity in this. It's got some big names behind it as well. I did actually link that article so I did my job. We're swinging at about 25% right now. But we had to make sure the unions came together and made sure the posting was done properly. Indeed yeah. Had to go through the proper steps pay the proper people. I'm not allowed to do it. Safety. Yes. We have to make sure the laptop isn't going to shock you. It's true. Emotional safety. It's 2016. That matters. I could be upset. You could be. Are you? No. Okay. I'm good. If you were we could take care of that. Just want to make sure everyone knows. But yeah I think it's actually pretty cool because like sometimes I'm going to want to go to the theater because it's like okay well I haven't left my house in like four weeks so going out once might be okay. But then other times if I'm just tired and want to stay at home or like midnight launches. That's one thing that I think is super cool. Some midnight launches like Star Wars if you want to go to Star Wars it's kind of cool because people in the line are going to be like wearing costumes and stuff and that's awesome. Certain midnight launches are sick. The new Warcraft movie maybe. Oh my god I'm going to the theater for that even if this existed. That's a theater one for sure. It doesn't matter. I'm going to the theater. But other stuff that's less important and you want to see it right away because you've been excited for a long time or like someone that this is actually really exciting for who isn't here is Brandon. I love watching movies with Brandon. If we go apply something. I'm just going to totally interrupt you. Brandon I want to watch movies with you because Luke talks about this endlessly. I don't know why I have this rubber band on my thumb. He talks about it endlessly and he just really enjoys it and it would be yes. It's wild because okay bro date. I'd be down to triple bro date. Do you like square it? What do you do? I don't know. Bros, extension bro. Do you see where I'm going here? Brosome. Let's let's move on. I got a little weird. Anyways watching movies with Brandon is awesome as you guys have seen the cool like the two cool videos that we shot recently was the VR testing through steam. I don't remember the exact VR performance test and then the other one was kick farted. Both look super awesome. All of our B roll stuff looks super great because Brandon is really good at filming things using lights and all that kind of stuff. He's done some tech cookies. He's done some LTTs on that kind of stuff. Follow his Instagram. Oh my God. His Instagram is very good. Follow his Instagram. I've got two buddies who are incredible at taking pictures. Mr. Johnny Chu and the man. Apparently yeah. But like he I'll watch a movie and be like I liked that. The action scenes were super cool and then he'll be like but why did you like it? Did you notice that it was framed in this way every time? And I was like whoa I didn't notice that but it was awesome. Like I watched when we were flying back no it was when we were flying to Switzerland I watched Mad Max on the flight. And I was like dude the action scenes were super cool. And he's like yeah because he doesn't make you look for it. When he films it he made it so that everything that was happening like the important part of the action was always in like right in the middle of the frame. I'm like that's really interesting. It's a different way of filming and he's the one that showed me that a lot of like American action movies have tons of jump cuts in the fight. And then like Jackie Chan movies don't. It flows through the entire fight. And then I started to appreciate that a lot more which kind of ruined other movies for me but like it's still super interesting. Anyways I like watching movies with Brandon so it would be cool to be able to do this for a brand new movie and like pick through it as we go. Yeah I don't know. That's what I like about being on the flight is because I just pause it and talk to him about it and then keep playing. Well the 48 hour thing you could just watch it all the way through. Talk about it. Watch it again. Pick it apart. You know on one of your guys's cool flights to wherever you're going next. I don't know I think that's pretty cool. It is. I think they really they're really going to hit this one out of the park. I think they're going to hit a target market that they're not touching right now. And I think it could be a win win. You know you're saying you could pause your wine hopefully better than Netflix. I still am a little disgruntled. If you're on a PC it's great but I wish I could control it easier on my phone because on suits they whisper too much and I'm just trying to get through those four seasons man. So it's you know and you can't miss anything right. You know girlfriend wants to say something and I'm like get a pause. Jump backwards. You know it is how it is. Yeah I hear that. That makes sense. This doc is pretty light this week because there's not a ton of people here and Colton happy Easter who makes that. Yeah speaking of which who makes the WAN doc isn't here today. He was here yesterday so he like tried to kind of cram it in and make a WAN doc kind of last minute and it sort of worked although we're almost out of topics. So we'll see how that goes. But we have almost out of topics. There's a thing that I can do that takes up time that isn't a topic and is super cool. Twitter. Sponsor. So Cooler Master is a sponsor. This is the first time they sponsored this thing with us. It's a keyboard. The Cooler Master Master Key Pro S and Pro L. The Pro S is a 10 keyless keyboard. The Pro L is a standard kind of sized keyboard. 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There's more bits inside the screwdriver kit which is great where you can only seemingly find the old ones which kind of sucks. We have a lot of shrugging going on. The cool part about having more bits isn't just a higher number 64. It doesn't like that's actually not just marketing terms this time. It means that you can get through more stuff and properly because stripping screws and stuff. Having the right tool for the job that's half the battle three quarters of the battle. Sometimes it's the entire battle. Sometimes. Yeah. It has a newly redesigned swivel top precision screwdriver which is pretty sick and flex extension for hard to reach screws. So you can like have your screwdriver here and have it go out and then down actually and then turn the screwdriver and the whole thing twists and it'll end up. It's really cool. Pretty cool. Precision ESD safe tweezers including a pair of reverse tweezers. So you have those like black coated ESD safe tweezers. A wider variety of plastic opening tools and picks which honestly while I liked the old Pro-Tech Toolkit ones I would find that the tips would break off and it was actually kind of a problem because my Pro-Tech Toolkit which I've used to take a huge amount of things apart. All most of the tips of the blue little spudger things were broken off and the new ones don't seem to do that. So this is actually like a significant improvement. That's probably my favorite part of the new Pro-Tech Toolkit. It has suction cups for display assembly removals, it has metal spudgers just in case you need an even more durable thing for like jimmying things open and whatnot. If you're into fixing phones or screens like that's something people can pay a decent amount of money for. If you've got you know the kind of handiness to do it suction cups man this toolkit. It's what we use to fix my old S3 when I smash it up. By we I mean whole wheat. He does a lot of that kind of stuff. 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Am I dating myself a little? Yeah. That's pretty my time. So a person is delivered to your door and the Oculus Rift erupts out of their stomach. That's how that happens. You actually have to finish them to be humane. Yes. And then you have to use it and then consume it and then you are shipped. Wow. Because you were one of the customers. See I read that the dominoes thing will come and pick up what's left. I guess that was just a rumor. Oh my god. Had a little scoop on the front. The body scoop. Everyone just turned into a soil and green afterwards. Wow. Super old references. Anyways, CEO Brendan Arb, erb? Erb? I think it's erb. Wow. I'm going to get murdered for that. Tweeted that it has shipped. Deliveries begin Monday, March 18th. 28th. So not getting mine then. Anyways, if you preorder now, you won't be able to get one until July. If anyone remembers a tweet that I sent out around CES, I was frustrated because it's been basically impossible for us to get any amount of media contact information from Oculus at all. And every single show that we've gone to, we've had to basically fight our way into a meeting with anyone. I even have an interview with Palmer because I met him in a hallway and was like, yo dude, can we have a meeting? And he knew who we were, but we still couldn't get media contact information. So I tweeted about it and he was like, hey man, I got you, let's figure this out. And then immediately disappeared off the face of the planet. He followed me. We DM'd like once or twice and then he was just gone. He sent me another tweet DM thing today being like, whoa, that took a while. Anyways, let's figure this out. So hopefully we can get a rush on our Oculus Rifts because I think ours were going to be delayed by like a few weeks. So we're trying to get them rushed so we can get a review out of the actual consumer version. It'd be awesome if that could happen. I really want to play it. You've been on this train since the very beginning. I can vouch for it. You've been very excited about this whole project from the very start. I really, really, really, really, the whole time I was doing it, I was thinking about you 100%. I want you to try the bullet train demo with the touch controllers. Is it because I'm not totally sold? What's the drive? No, it's because, okay, so the bullet train demo with the touch controls, you stand in one location. I'm not going to show right now because I won't fit in the camera properly, but you stand in one. I'm pretending I'm standing. I'm standing in one location. There's little blue kind of orb things on the ground. And if you point at one with your controller and press a certain button, you teleport there. And then it's a stand and fight game. That's a shooter. So basically wherever you teleport, there's probably some form of gun and you can pick it up with your other controller, shoot. And like if it's like AK, if you shoot it with one hand, it's going to be like, and the bullets are going to go everywhere. So you have to like pull your other hand up and actually hold it properly. Shotguns, you can take one shot. And then if you don't pump it, you can't shoot again. So you have to like actually pump it. Or if stuff just gets crazy, you can slow down time, drop both your weapons or like hook a weapon at someone and grab the bullets out of the air, turn them around and then throw them back. And they go back in bullet time and like actually kill people. So it's like really fun to play because you're teleporting all over the place, slowing down time, grabbing things like it's very physically interactive, which is a thing that I think a lot of VR games are missing right now. Yes, definitely. My two favorite demos, my most favorite demo used to be E.Valkyrie. It's not anymore. My two favorite demos now are Bullet Train and I don't know if they have an official name for it yet or if they're ever actually going to release it, but it's essentially the Tron game and CCP made it. So it's the Tron game where you throw discs at each other. Really? Yeah. CCP, I just, I just lit up. Sorry. No, I know. I don't even play because it's not my type of game, but they're an incredible company. E.V.E. is an incredible game. Now I'm excited. So do you know the Tron game where you throw discs at each other and you're standing on the platform? They made that. And like you have to actually like jump and dodge and block and like the blocking works and you block and if you're swinging around this way and it hits, it'll bounce off in that direction. Or if it's like coming this way and you hit that way, it'll bounce off in that direction. Like however, the physics are pretty good. If it's coming behind you, you can get hit in the back because there's like room behind you and it can bounce off the walls and you have to throw it like, oh man, I played against Colton and it was slightly frustrating because he's super non-athletic. So I just wrecked him. Like I think it was almost 30 to like two and the only reason why I got hit those times was because I didn't fully know how the game worked yet. Like just completely destroyed him. But it was really cool doing something more physically active in VR. That's really cool. I'm actually, I thought about bringing this and I didn't. I'm going to try and find it, but, and this is going to be super bad because I'm not in the industry. Basically the treadmill that you move around on for VR. Yes. One of them was just launched on Kickstarter. I just raised a whole bucket of money in the first 24 hours. I'm going to try and look for the article. Okay. That made me think of it. But I think that's what I'm excited about with the whole VR thing right now. I'm not a hater, but just strapping it on and doing a roller coaster. Not really my thing. I'm not really excited. No, I, I, and I know I like showed our whole family that and stuff. But it's totally cool for other people to, to be excited about. And it's the start. It's the building blocks of what I'm going to be excited. Exactly. That's why I didn't. I actually really care about the fact that that was going on. I cared about the like, wow, wait for all the other things. This is where we're going. Yeah. And one thing that's going to help with that a ton is you're probably going to like the vibe a lot more. Yes. Because the vibe is room scale. Right. And that means you can move around. It's like, absolutely. Absolutely. Wow. Tilt brush, the Google art game. Have you seen that? Um, I think so. I'm excited for like, I think Nikita will really like it. Is that the one Disney was showing a little, uh, one of the artists from Disney was doing it? Probably. I think I watched it. It's from Google. I wouldn't be surprised at all if one of the artists from Disney was in there, but, um, it's like a, you, you use your controllers essentially as paint brushes. Yeah. And it's 3d so you can move around whatever you're painting. And you can basically paint out sculptures. Really cool. Wow. I made this scene where like I put grass all over the floor that I made like a tree and a little fire that actually had fire and smoke come out of it. And then I made it like snowing and I just kind of sat down and was like, I like this. That's really cool. Yeah. What I had an absolute ton of fun when I wasn't expecting to. I was at a family dinner at our uncle's place. Um, and this was a few years ago, PlayStation three, it had a game built into it. We had both controllers and it was a sword and shield fighting game. And I had a ton of fun. Yeah. Like I had way too much fun playing this game because it was incredible how much it mattered about like you couldn't even trick it. Like you couldn't just move your wrist really quick and try to get some big head. Yeah. You know, where the Wii games are, you can kind of exploit certain issues with controller. It was really incredible just moving, blocking and using your sword and you could move your person and it was, uh, it was a ton of fun. So I think VR is going to be really incredible and it's really going to move gaming from a physically inactive activity to something that could be very active. That's one thing like yesterday I was tweeting out asking if there's any novice men's, yes, I saw that. I saw that. You know what got me excited about that? Growing up football and hockey, right? Playing football and hockey all the time. You did a very similar thing. Yeah. The cross was the one thing and I did try and we called, I wanted to fit in lacrosse. I would have had to quit hockey and I couldn't do it. Yeah. But sorry. Yeah. I saw that tweet today. Actually I was a little behind, but I was like, yeah, that's totally, is there one? That's pretty cool. I don't think so. No, there isn't. There's no, like, I think there might be one rugby team and other than that, there's no full contact sports for adults where we live. I'm like, if you're a grown dude, how do you hit someone? Legally. Legally. My ice hockey league, I played at the very low levels and you watch some of the games, there's a little bit of hitting, but not really not much. When you go to the higher skill levels, basically every skill level, the rules are technically the same. The higher skill level, if you watch the A guys play, I was playing E. If you watch the A guys play, that's a much more physical game. They let a lot more go. The rules are technically the same. It's technically the same league, but every division you go up, because I actually jumped up a game to play with another team and I could totally tell there's more physicality. That's the only thing I could tell you. I know Washington State has Men's Pro. People were talking fencing and karate and stuff like, not the same. You're doing a bit of jujitsu. Yeah. It's still not the same. It's not the same. Hitting someone in lacrosse or football or rugby, and I know there is actually a local team for rugby, but hitting someone in lacrosse or football or rugby is very different than fighting someone in karate or jujitsu or something like that. It's super different. It's more like... Yeah, I don't know. It's collision, which is not something you get to a little bit in some of those, but not a ton. It's team object oriented stuff where sometimes you do the suicide pass kind of thing. You've heard about that? Freaking Zach Peters, if you're watching, he's the suicide pass me and rug me. He'd be almost going to get hit and there's someone on me just in case he passes to me and he'd be like, ha ha, get wrecked. I would just take the hit, but there's other things... Football throwing a floater right in the middle. Linebackers are just like, good luck, let's go, dinner time. Hitting one for the team by physically hitting someone or allowing yourself to get hit or something like that is a very different mentality than fighting someone one on one in an orchestrated sparring match. I'm a big team sport guy. Me too. I've been getting up so early for work and going to bed so early. Today I woke up early, I went online, I was like, I'm going to play some games. No one was on because it was 830 in the morning, which is totally normal and I get that, but my whole mood just kind of... I did some stuff by myself, I farmed a little bit of gold and I did some other things, but the whole team... I was talking about Rocket League earlier. I can't tell you the last time I played Rocket League by myself, but when you get some guys in there, you get a group together and it's really fun. So the whole team atmosphere. My favorite thing at PAX for the last few years probably was our group of people just jamming out playing Rocket League together because everyone gets hyped up and it's very fun. VR could really play into that. They're going to have... Obviously it's going to be a singular thing to start, but we're talking about how VR is going to get better and better. What happens until now, it's us two in that bullet time game jumping around, shooting together, working together. I go behind an object and I find two guns. You go behind an object, you find none. Slide board across the floor. Whatever, yeah. Just different things like that. Co-op, I remember, especially growing up, the whole idea of co-op was really a big deal and really pushed gaming forward. Then obviously multiplayer and then really playing online. I'm very excited for... I have a computer idea coming up that a few people know about, but not that many. So I'm not going to leak it here. The guys from my stream, The Afterparty for this, some of you guys might know about it, but I'm not going to talk about it right now. But it incorporates the idea of multiple people in VR together. I'm excited for that too because I feel like it can bring back the... Maybe not actual hitting, like I can't hit someone, but it'll bring back the team-based mentality with physical aspects in it going towards some type of game with a collective goal and all those kinds of things. One of my favorite things that we've done was paintball forever ago when one person would move up and then the person who moved up would call shots for the person in the back and then... Yep, exactly. That was super cool if you can do stuff like that in video games. Something that would be cool is taking away stuff like Skype and Vente and TeamSpeak for competitive shooters and whatnot. If you have like... It's cool and all, but being able to have it so you have to shout out to your buddy. Yeah, absolutely. That's awesome because you have to give away your position to communicate in that situation. That's kind of cool. And if you're dead, you shouldn't be able to communicate at all. Yeah. I don't know. Just little things like that. I think that would be awesome. It's just going to be fun. We should probably move on from VR. I could literally talk about VR forever. Well, you're saying we don't have enough and I've been thinking more and more that we're just going to... It's true. We'll have enough. Yes, it'll be fine. But there's some rapid fire stuff. Yep, I'm still moving on rapid fire. So Pebble fires 25% of its staff. That's really depressing just for the pure fact that now there's a bunch of guys looking for jobs. I'm sure Pebble looks great on your resume. I've been there. You've been there. I know it might be hard for you to even remember now, but there's always a time in a lot of people's lives where you're looking for that job and it sucks. It really sucks. To lose your job sucks even if it's in the best way possible, as in the company just goes, we're really sorry. We like you a lot and we'll give you the best reference and here's a letter and all that kind of stuff and we'll try to do what we can to help you, which I'm not even sure how much... I haven't actually read up about it, how much they are helping. I'm sure they're doing their fair share, but just a really unfortunate thing for a lot of different people who are working there. Yeah, they laid off 40 employees, which is that 25% number. The CEO, Eric, has said that money is pretty tight these days and he's referring to difficulties raising money in Silicon Valley, which kind of makes sense because of the quote that is actually on the screen. Pebble is now in a very crowded market. There are so many companies making smartwatches. Oh my God. And you know what? I'm not seeing them a lot on the day to day. I see them when I come to this office, obviously. This is a tech focused area. I saw a handful of the iWatches when they first came out, or the Apple Watch, sorry. Couldn't care. I saw kind of a surge of them immediately. I'm very much out and about Vancouver and Burnaby with my job, but I don't see a lot of them on the day to day. I still see the more simple fashion accessory or the more Iron Man, G-Shock style of functionality. I'm not really seeing this. It's not really taking over. I think a lot of people thought it would. It helps a little bit to get out of Langley and Vancouver. Vancouver, however much of a tech hub it is, because it actually is, doesn't really seem to adopt things super quickly. I don't know why. You do travel all over, so you would have a good view on this. It feels very hot spotty. Like Switzerland, I don't think I literally saw a single person with a smartwatch the entire time I was there. And I was going to techy kind of places and stuff. So there's that. But like in San Fran. Oh yeah. Like actually a pretty significant amount of people. Not like a majority, definitely not a majority, but like it's noticeable and you kind of see it around. See that's what I was referring to with here. Yeah. So it is. So it's spotty. Okay. But San Fran, you kind of expect that? So I don't know. I don't think it's kicking off quite as hard as people thought because I don't think it's that difficult to pull your phone out of your pocket. And I was saying it's really unfortunate for a lot of people. 25% is only 40 of their employees. So really that is, you know, that's a decent chunk. You know, you're looking at a high school classroom and a half or however you want to mentally picture it. It sucks. It's also not devastating. It's not, you know, one of these massive, you know, corporations. It's devastating on an individualized scale. It's not devastating in like a, oh my God, half of a massive company just got laid off. Because that happens. There's thousands of positions floating. Exactly. Thousands of people. You know, and when it's less employees, you're going to hope that they're going to get a little more help, a little more special attention than, you know, those mass layoffs that you see. And one thing that I worry about and like it's going to, it's going to suck for these guys, but it sucks even more when it's in the gratuitous amounts of numbers is like one of my buddies, uh, Ruel was recently working at a restaurant that closed. So all of the people that were working at that restaurant, we're all friends and stuff, but no one's really able to help each other properly because now you have all of these people who are looking for similar work because of their experience. They're now competitors. They're all competitors and like that sucks. So even 40 of them, that's gotta suck because now there's 40 people who have immediate, probably fairly lengthy, fairly interesting experience at a company selling watches that are probably going to try to find this of their one page resume is the exact same as everybody else. Yes. You know, they got 40 duplicates. This is what I did. Essentially, obviously they'll have different facets to their job, but yeah, yeah, I totally agree. It's an unfortunate situation when, when anybody closes down, but you know, maybe they can, VR is picking up other things are picking up. Uh, there's ads on the radio all the time about tech jobs in BC. So hopefully it's yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. Hi, I'm the blank blank blank. Uh, we're, we're the CEO of bench and we've moved back to Vancouver, New York because the people here and it's not joining the tech industry. It's joining the tech industry, the tech, all industries, the super weird radio commercial. Yeah, very odd. Don't worry about it. Bench, which is like a clothing company is hiring is the spokesperson for a company that hires tech people in Vancouver and they moved away from Vancouver, but have now moved back. And it's like, it's this, it's a very weird radio commercial. Don't worry about it. Anyways, uh, right on schedule. Amoled displays are now cheaper to produce the LCDs. Now is the actual dollar number in here? Yes. The 12 inch full HD smartphone display is $14 and 30 cents for Amoled panels and $14 and 60 cents for an LCD panel. That's awesome because that means that it is now going to be beneficial for people to use Amoled panels instead of LED panels. There's I don't think a ton else to say, but no, no, that's good. You know, uh, maybe these, uh, vehicle manufacturers excluding Tesla can start putting better stuff in their vehicles. Kind of a hater on almost everybody right now. And that's kind of funny cause Linus is off in New York at like an auto show thing. So hopefully, hopefully we have some cool stuff. Maybe there'll be cool stuff to come out of that show. You know, um, Ford, I know I've seen some new videos about one of their new vehicles coming out and they made some minor improvements that are still in my personal opinion, miles away. Yeah. I've seen some of the, I wrote in a brand new Mazda the other day. Um, it was kind of nice, but I just didn't really, I felt like they took a tablet and they were like, uh, and they just kind of left it there and like didn't really fully integrate. It just looks awkward. Like it doesn't look like it's a part of the vehicle. It looks like it's just kind of like you could take it away with you and you would want to because it looks weird. I don't like, yeah, not, not a big fan of what's going on. I actually got into a Dodge Ram yesterday at work that had a 20 kilometers on it and it had the screen and everything. And it's just really not that impressive. It's really not. You literally, in my opinion, you have to be in a Tesla to be impressed by the multimedia center that's involved unless you've done a custom fit yourself. Your 2009 Acura is pretty darn solid and it totally compares to the 2015s, which is so weird. We were going to do a video, um, like a year and a half ago, I think. And we were trying to work with a car company to show, um, where has whatever bracket, cause I don't know what brackets cars fit into because I'm not a super car guy. I like car tech, but anyways, um, of car, like how far has it come in the last, since 2009? Cause I got my car and they contacted us and they were like, oh yeah, we can send you the car to this one. It has these things and it had no additional functionality in a smaller screen. I was just like, yeah, they're really not hidden out of the park with this. Now, like I can't understand why, to be honest. Yeah. We're just talking about how cheap it is to produce, you know, the tablets are getting better and better every day. Why they're not just hooking up with a manufacturer to help them out. I don't understand. And like that, that Tesla tablet does have its problems. It's not the fastest thing ever. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But it's actually been in that car for a while now. Yeah. It's not really new anymore. Um, of course you can buy one new, but like the model S itself isn't an, is a new design model. So yeah, I don't know. Having a workable, like I'm really excited for, I'm excited for conversational AI. Yep. So like the her style, like you can actually talk to it. And when I can like converse with my car. Okay. What was the show we watched a little tiny bit when we were super young night rider? Yes. I love nightriders. Oh my God. So yeah, if I can talk with that was an AI that you could converse with, you know, like I would even legitimately be cool with the, like, instead of it being an app, I just like call my car with like the phone app. And I'm just like, Hey, you want to like come pick me up? Pick me up. It's raining. The car's just like, you know, I was kind of relaxing. I was relaxed, but that's fine. I guess. Are you going to change my oil? Can we do that today? But then it's a joke because it's electric. Oh, that is right. But then he's like, ha ha, I don't have oil. And you're like, I'm going to go in and turn your sass. You are so funny, but we need to turn that down. That'll be awesome. But yeah, anyway, speaking of things talking to you, that's not a segue that works for this at all. It works if you want it to anyways. Facebook is pulling back on its Blackberry app. Come on bbc.uk. You know, apparently.com Facebook drops support for Blackberry, which is probably completely fine. And I'm not even saying that because basically no one uses Blackberry phones. I'm saying that because don't they just work with Android apps? Yeah, I thought that was the thing. I wouldn't know because I don't know anyone who has a Blackberry. Me neither. At all. Zero. Yeah. So. Okay. I don't know. I kind of thought of it as just like kicking somebody when they're down. Maybe I like the Twitch chat can probably. Comment on that, but I'm pretty sure these days if you're a Blackberry owner, you just if you are somehow a Blackberry owner. I think there's some government organizations. Now that I think about that, I actually know someone who has two phones. One of them is a Blackberry. He works for Canadian Border Security. Okay. And he has a Blackberry for his government phone just because as Elon Musk would say, government's very, very slow to do things. So they're still having, you know, kind of moved on. He has problems all the time. He can't email properly from it. When he tries to email the group of us, it doesn't always go through and all that kind of stuff. He's got to wait till he gets home and. Yeah. Blackberries can use Google Play. Yeah. The Google Play Store. Who cares? They probably stop support for it because who cares? Here's another thing. I know you've got the app back now, but I still don't use the app on my phone. I still use my browser. I believe Mr. Light, Nick, does that as well. I'm not sure if he's switched back to get the messenger because you guys use it a bit more than I do. But I'm just a typical casual user. I don't use the app. I just use the browser. I used to not use the app. And a big part of that was because of how like invasive and not OK it is. And then I just realized that I am not allowed privacy in my life anyways. So whatever, I guess. Like I don't know. It's gotten to the point where like my information is so farmed out that like, I hear you. Facebook doesn't have it. Someone else has got it. So I might as well just the only thing I would say on that is if you're like me and you're kind of not sure about it, the browser functionality is actually fantastic. Yeah, it's actually really good. The only thing you're going to miss is notifications pinging your phone. You can check it. Probably fine. That's probably fine, too. I get by just fine. We communicate on Facebook this morning. It worked out. You know, it's not a huge deal. If you're thinking about it, try it out. You know, it still works. Yeah, I did that for a very long time. And then one day it was just like, you know, I try to do all these things because I suggest that people do these things. And then I realized that just like like in my position, I have no privacy at all. Anyways, an unfortunate not everything's positive. No, there has to be some sort of it's true. Yang Yang going on. Yeah, it's probably fine. At least I'm easy to contact, I guess. You say that there's there's been a family email going around. You still haven't responded to. Oh, that one. I don't know how to respond to that yet. Oh, I want to make it. Oh, yeah. That's not really going to work. I basically said that properly. Did you like that? I had your back there. I actually I was writing it and then I went back and I went working very hard. Thank you. Put in the very after. That's how you know I got you. I'm doing like it. Yeah. Anyways. So something that's kind of weird, actually, from Facebook is this. So yeah. This ad platform now guesses your race or as they call it, ethnic affinity based on your behavior. I like that terminology. So basically what's happening is, as you can see here, there's two different trailers, straight out of Compton trailer 2015 and straight out of Compton trailer to 2015. And based on what it guesses your ethnic affinity is, it will give you a different version of the trailer. No joke. One trailer portrays the movie as like a violent depiction of gang acts. And the other trailer depicts it as like a history of the music industry from the underdog. Really? Yeah. Like, OK, I'm going to jump off of this. I still haven't seen this movie. I can read the proper notes. I haven't either, but I do actually. I wonder what my I'm really interested as to what they're guessing for me, because I do like a lot of hip hop and a lot of I was literally watching the best vines from World Star Hip Hop this morning. So yes, I do have weird things on my YouTube. But something like this, why would you even play with this? Why is a big company? Why would you even touch this? So OK, I have no idea. But to make one trailer like there's apparently three different versions of the marketing campaign for the NWA biopic straight out of Compton. Weird. One for white audiences, one for black audiences and one for Hispanic audiences. Trilies are all completely different. They don't say which one is for which. But one depicts a gangster movie emphasizing violence. One depicts the movie as a biography talking about their music being protest art. And then they don't say what the third one is. Facebook describes ethnicity as affinities or a similarity of characteristics. I just don't know why they're touching it. I just don't get it. I think they could have just picked way better terminology. Oh, yeah. Because like looking at using their their picture stuff, they could figure out your ethnicity probably pretty easily. But they're talking about similarities of characteristics. So why not just call it that? It's called racism. Are you an angry, aggressive person? Then maybe you want to see the one that depicts it as a gangster movie, which emphasizes violence. Are you not an angry, aggressive person? What if they just said characteristics? Instead of anything about ethnicity? That's what I mean. Yeah. Are you someone who likes who likes protests and like standing up for what you believe in but you're not necessarily a violent person? There you go. Or maybe portray that one or whatever the third one is. Like call it characteristics. Why are you calling it ethnic affinity? Just a really terrible maneuver. That's just bad play. Makes you sound like a dick. Like I don't know. Glad you said it. I was wondering if we could say it. I wasn't sure. I don't know. Whatever. Put it around the lines on that one. Yeah. Just a bad move in every direction. That's just that play fell apart. They picked it up around the wrong direction. I have no idea. Yeah. Facebook has done some really weird stuff with their like social science team or whatever they call it. I don't know what they call it, but they like play experiments on the people all the time. Yeah. And I wonder if this is just one of them. To be completely honest. Facebook doesn't seem to be losing any steam, but I'm kind of excited for the next one. I'm kind of excited for Facebook to become the old or the current MySpace, let's call it. Yeah. One interesting thing that I read an article about, which I don't have right now, but it was talking about how Facebook is, especially now, and it's going to continue to be, especially now, becoming this completely unstoppable literal graveyard of humanity. Because people are dying and their Facebook pages stay up. That's depressing as can be. So like the percentage of the user base that is literally dead. It's actually a depressing fact for, I don't see, I don't always know if we should drop names or not, but my SO, my significant other just had a friend pass away. That friend's Facebook page is still there. You know what I mean? Like that's a, that's a true to life example that's within the last few months. So what you say really hits home and locally as well. And I'm sure for people watching this and that's a really, and it's super weird when like someone who might really care about that person sentimentally goes back to essentially their gravestone by just going to their Facebook page. And then you see like someone who's not very well informed being like, Hey, we should hang out on their wall. And it's like, yeah, that's, yeah, that's sad. It's weird anyways, in less sad news, but slightly weird news. Sony is maybe possibly considering the potential of a PlayStation 4.5. So this was a Kotaku source. So who knows if this webpage is going to exist in a certain amount of time or if someone's going to like buy them or something. I don't know. But apparently the new version of the PS4 would have increased graphical power, being able to play games running at 4k resolution and would probably do a bit better with VR and stuff like that. So this is from like some source that is super not named and all of this other kind of stuff. Apparently there's been whispers about upgrades to the Xbox as well. So iterations faster than we expected. Wouldn't be super surprised. I wonder if it will line up with the Nintendo NX, which is the only console I'm even remotely interested in. Hello. Yes. I see how it is. Would you like an orange? Yeah. Okay. You got a better one. He was so excited about that. I'm a little scared. Got it. All right. Nerds sports. Coming soon. I guess I can't really like say shit over here. I can say that I saw a little bit looking out the window. Okay. Um, what was I going to say? I'm not in the console game. I'm not really excited for it. Okay. Okay. Can you do this? Yeah. Go. Okay. Wait one more time. Okay. All right. Tune into nerds sports. It's going to be sick. One more time. I should probably do it myself. Okay. Turn into nerds. Tune into nerds sports. It's going to be sick. It's going to be dank. I'm editing it now. Oh, you were so close. That was going so well. I've made, I've signed an agreement that I can't talk about nerds sports unless I'm juggling. Really? Yeah. No, no. I don't know. You just kept with it. Yeah. I liked it. But check it out and don't unsubscribe from Vessel because it's going to be on there and nowhere else. For a long time. And I worked a lot. I worked really hard on it. So don't unsubscribe and say nice things to your moms. See you guys. Please don't work back. Thanks Virgil. All right. Have a good long weekend. You too, see ya. That was weird. Okay, you guys get Monday off. That was cool. Okay. PlayStation 4.5. I'm not in the console game. Don't have a console. Would like a Wii U. We were talking about the Pokken tournament. I found out that came out yesterday. I live under a very large rock, but it's comfortable. So, I don't like this because people who bought this console and it's for the same reasons that I don't like the new Nintendo 3DS. Now I almost bought one, but the whole fact that you are now, please confirm, the new games will not work on the older Gameboys. Is that certain games? Certain functionality and stuff. Certain functionalities. Okay. So you see certain functionality is a little bit different. I have the 2DS you got me, which is fantastic. Really been enjoying that. Really works well for me. But I... My problem there was I was misinformed. Oh, okay. I thought certain games wouldn't work. I don't think that's a thing. There's like a C stick for when you're in Smash and stuff. Like there's different things like that, but... Right. Right. So that's not that big of a deal. Because what I think of is the parent who did the best they could, very similar to our parents, to get a console and now there's a new one and now like this PS4.5 are all games going to work on it. We don't know. We know very little. It might not even be a thing. But it is a thing and if it is an updated version, first of all, anyone who plays anything competitive has to upgrade period. That was one thing we saw with the Xbox Elite, which was kind of a frustrating deal, but not a huge deal. My biggest thing is if they're going to come out with a new one, if the new games following that launch only work on that new system, basically making the PS4 obsolete, I'm upset and I don't own them. I don't like that idea. I don't like that marketing. I don't like any of that. I think that's ugly from all sides. So I'm really hoping that's not what happens. And frankly, my biggest argument when Xbox and we saw it at PAX, especially not I don't think it was this year, but the year before, it might even be in the year before that. But when PlayStation 4 and Xbox one were really trying to compete, my biggest thing and everyone who's watching this knows that is they're just super underpowered. Like why didn't you just why? Why do this now? Why didn't you start on a good foot? My biggest complaint when they first came out was that the Wii U was ridiculous. Ridiculously comparable, if not better in certain categories. No, what pissed me off was every generation before that, like the 360 when the 360 first came out and the PlayStation 3, they're losing a little bit on selling the console. It's actually got pretty good hardware in there. And at the very beginning, it's like, ooh, solid drop. That's an interesting idea compared to a computer. Computers probably be better. But like for people that don't want to mess with that, it's actually kind of interesting. It's running its own thing. Games load like, okay, games don't load right away. But like you don't have to patch things really like stuff just kind of works. When the 360 dropped, I would say the PC console argument was way closer than it was. And then like as time goes by, the PC will start to just completely destroy it. It's not a contest anymore. And that's fine. When the PlayStation and Xbox One came out, PCs at the same cost were already just so much better. Ridiculous. Yeah. Wasn't even, they're not in the same ballpark. And that's boring. Like I'm on the PC side, but that's just boring. It really is. Yeah, it really is. What they were putting in there was just ugly. It just really was. You know, just, I don't know. I don't know how much we can beat that. Super disappointed. Yeah. Really, really not, really not exciting. But we'll see what Sony decides to do with this. If Sony does it, you've got to assume Xbox is going to do something similar. I love Nintendo because they're just on their own doing their own thing. So that new Nintendo console, I'm also excited as well. I wish I had a week, maybe I will rent it this weekend or something. I really want to try that Pokken tournament. I don't even play fighting games, but I've just been watching a little bit online. I've heard it's like basically Smash, but with Pokemon, isn't it? Or is it different? It's different. It's much more, it's just a one-on-one fighting game. It's not, it's not exactly, you know, two dimensional. You're moving on a single axis. You can move around, but it's very interesting. I actually watched a tournament the other day. I said, oh, I'm going to check this out. I saw one of the streamers who streams all different games playing it. I went to the actual channel, which it's got very low traction on Twitch. I have to say very low traction for a new game, which is kind of depressing. But I was watching Mewtwo fight a Pokemon that's brand new. So I don't know its name, but it was incredible how Mewtwo was always in the air and this one character had to use constant anti-air and just watching the engagement. I saw a similar face-pom in, cause I said Tekken, not Smash. That makes so much more sense when it's called Pokken now. Yes. Yes. It's much more like that. I didn't think about that at all. I just thought Smash because I saw the cover. Yes, the cover you could say. And it made me think of Smash. I haven't seen the game at all. Tekken, Pokken, that totally makes sense. I get that now. Which isn't really our kind of games. I know growing, neither of us kind of gravitated towards that. It's probably worth a rent though. Luckily, we still have a place near our house where we can rent video games. An awesome place. If you live anywhere around here, Willow Video Games, give them a shout out in Langley, BC. Fantastic shop run by fantastic people. It's an old school shop. You can buy and sell and it's fantastic. It's a really good place to go. Competitive prices and nobody's nicer. Their customer service is fantastic. I bought a tiny little Charizard shirt that was built for a lady and the dude totally thought it was for me and he mentioned that it might not fit me. That's okay, dude. And I never actually told him it wasn't for me. He just looked at me weird the whole time I was buying. It turned out to not fit my SO, as I'll call it. And we actually ended up taking it back and the guy was like, oh, I'm not sure if it was a different individual. Oh, I'm not sure if we take clothing back. And the guy who sold it to me out front of the back was like, oh, I know him. We can take that back. It's okay that it didn't fit him. I just let it play out. I just let it play out. Yeah, it was a female small, so that didn't work out. Probably wouldn't even cover like one of your arms. Yeah, I might have had to rip it a few times. But yeah, it didn't work out. It eventually solved the problem. But they're super nice. They're great. Yes. If you have some games to sell, games to buy. I love that place. It's a great place to go. I'm like probably a very, maybe a noticeable percentage of their like reason why they're still in business. Could be. I try to buy like everything I can from them if it's possible. And I try to send everyone I know to them if possible. Because I would rather like. I wonder if you can buy the new Need for Speed for PC from them. I wonder if they can. No, they don't do PC stuff. I think if you request beforehand. Oh, yeah. They can get one for you. They're actually the ones who told me because I have the 2DS that you got me and then I played on your new Nintendo 3DS. That's what it is, right? I'm using that. I think that is literally what it's called. Yes. And I was a little blown away. So I wanted to go buy one and they had the Pokemon version. So I actually called Willow. They were the ones who informed me that it's not the actual XL. They saved me a bunch of because I referred to it as, oh, do you have the new Nintendo Pokemon 3DS XL? He said, we actually do, but it's not an XL and told me all about it and the issues with it. So they saved me a bunch of money because I actually almost ordered off Amazon just assuming it was the full go because it was the same price. When a company is willing to tell you the bad things about something to save you money because you specifically asked for something like improperly or whatever, like what just happened, that's awesome. Yes, absolutely. I would very much expect another store to just be like, sure, man, here's your 300 something dollar device. Yeah, exactly. And someone like me and you, I just don't want to speak for you, but I guarantee you that means you're going to get future business. Instead of losing that initial sale, which might suck for the moment, you just guaranteed sales down the road. I'm totally that type of person. For example, say, I don't know who you're sponsored. Okay, so I had terrible customer service from that video card company, which I don't want to hate on because they are a good company, but I'm probably not going to go back to them just purely off the customer service that I was received when I had to send in my 660ti and get it fixed. I actually ended up getting a brand new one, which was nice, but it was a nightmare of a process that guaranteed a lack of future business. Right. From myself, am I going to hurt their bottom line? Absolutely not. But like a story got to go with your wallet. A story I've been saying forever. That streams more or less over now, but a story I've been turning to the after party or sure. Yeah. Okay. Um, this thing and whoop. Sorry guys, I get them off topic all over the place. It's very similar to what happens when we hang out. It's just kind of a slightly more professional version. That's pretty much it. That's kind of the whole idea of what created the Wanshow to start with was it was just what happened with Linus and I hung out. I really did like the original ones in the garage. Wanshow! I mean, Linda.com! Linda! My Physic! Fix all the things! Cool, all of the games. And the CPUs. And the GPUs.