 104,000 views now. Alright! Welcome to the Linus Tech Tips livestream! We just had a pre-show for those of you who are confused where we were trying to make sure that the audios were- Oh, slick, the camera's crooked! You helped me line it up. No, I can clearly see that you aligned it so that you'll appear taller. What? Why is everything an ego measuring contest with you? What? Unbelievable. I mean, it's just immature. I'll forgive you if you eat this thermal paste. You set that up, didn't you? The whole thing. No, I actually didn't. Do you see how crooked it is? I do, but you were the one helping me line it up. For those of you who are wondering, Okay, so I spend- How much did I spend on this thing? I spent like a few hundred bucks. No, the tripod. Oh. Maybe it was like 500? I don't know, it was expensive. So I spend like hundreds of dollars on a tripod that has like a fluid head and like, you know, a bubble level inside it. And then, Slick's just like, Yeah, legs out. Pointed at the thing. In his defense, we've been in a bit of a hurry. We had a disaster. Oh, God. The likes of which we have rarely encountered. So it's not- You know what? I'm not usually one to call out a manufacturer on a product. Where I'm just like, Why did this ever make it to market? I can usually see the positive about almost anything. It's like, Okay, here's what they were thinking. And I understand why they did this. Even if I don't agree with it. Whereas this one is just something that never, ever needed to exist. The Antec Cooler Box. This is what happened to our Antec Cooler Box. This is what happened to our Antec Cooler Box. This is what happened to our Antec Cooler Box. This is what happened to our Antec Cooler Box. This is what happened to our Antec Cooler Box. This is a fan blade. It broke off. It broke off. Causing our fan to destabilize. If you guys have ever heard what a destabilized fan sounds like, you're a little- Ugh! Ah, you're heavy. Um. If you guys have ever heard what a destabilized fan blade sounds like, it is a loud obnoxious thing. And, um. So our fan blade just came off. And that, Just, 오 It's not like there's a lawnmower in our computer. Yeah, which basically given that the mic sits about a meter and a half away from the computer would have been a bit of a problem For our live stream tonight, so that was about 12 minutes before we were due to come live. Nine. Nine minutes. Nine minutes we had to fix it. So, so the cooler box, okay It hit the market at a time when Noctua already had the NH-U12P SE I think by that time, okay, it which has an excellent mounting mechanism was similarly expensive I mean, especially when it launched I think Antec thought they were gonna get $59.99 for it or something ridiculous like that The cooler box has the worst mounting hardware. I think I've ever seen on a cooler. Have you ever seen anything worse? Maybe that Zalman one. That Zalman one that actually you couldn't it could mount on anything Okay, but this one had these custom little like so it was a tower cooler But you know how a lot of tower coolers They'll have like a hold down plate in the middle and then the fan slides out so you can screw it in and it holds The whole thing in and you have like a square bracket underneath Or I've seen ones that actually have a hole right down the middle of the heat sink Like I think the tunic tower had that I've seen ones that have it and they come with a screwdriver so that you can install the thing. No No, the cooler box has Philips head screws under under fins and then the Philips head screws have Neurals on them so you can turn them by hand as if you could tighten a heat sink by hand and then they also have wrench sort of a wrench hex around them so you can get in there with a little wrench because you're using this Aftermarket cooler on some motherboard that doesn't have VRM cooling, right? It actually took me probably about an hour to install that cooler and I've installed a number of coolers in my life Yeah, and to take it off the board is gonna take it forever So you guys aren't even gonna believe what we have right now since I since I have to fix slicks horrible Still don't think that was my problem. I'm still pretty sure I said the tripod. Okay And I was like, all right Is that framed good and you told me to move it because it's too far over and you told me to zoom in and stuff Because you can see it on the big monitor Okay, so check this out guys Check check this out. This is awesome They can't hear you very well, but this is awesome So there's the ghetto mounted fan on top Basically, there's supposed to be a fan in the middle right behind where it says Antec and that's where the fan that we had broke we unplug that one put up a believe Antec tri-cool on top and And just have it on pushing air through it. So it's super ghetto mountain That one is disconnected that he's trying to point at the fan that's disconnected You can't really see it very easily and kind of see it through there But it's in there and one of those blades is broken and then there's one ghetto magic on top It's not even mounted. It's get about it as in didn't do anything. Just put it on top Yeah, so that's currently our streaming machine for anyone Wondering about how unstable it might be the camera looks terrible now Hopefully it auto cracks itself. Yay camera Okay, never mind But yeah, so that's pretty much the stability of our rig right now. So I think we'll be totally fine I don't actually really think it's a problem Without the like not moving fan in the middle impeding airflow and all this other stuff That's like everything that's wrong with our live stream is the philosophy that that's probably not gonna be a problem That's probably okay. Probably fine. Don't worry about it So I just realized now that I haven't been looking at twitch chat or Twitter So we could have all kinds of issues with our side at this point and I've been paying attention good work Yeah, you can be not fired today. Yeah Speaking of which we had a we had a pretty good day at the NCIX studio today because of b-roll Yeah, because of our new Addition to the team who goes by the name b-roll So awesome, okay, it's like it's so I'm not gangster see guys Okay, it's funny because it's like thug sounding but also it's like camera terminology. It's also the b-roll So he is a friend of diesel the interns and so they they have a pretty good like teamwork Relationship going on they're not debating every possible. Oh man They go on and on and on about like I mean get this okay get this. All right Okay, so This right here, this is the kit lens that comes with the Sony FS 700 You know what as far as kit lenses go, it's a very solidly built little lens It's not bad. It's I mean, it's not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but They have both Refused to use it to the point where diesel brought all of his own lenses into work and just leaves them here because I Don't think he has time to do any video being outside of work these days And then get this get this b-roll starts on his very first day shows up Brings all his own lenses. They both refuse to even use each other's fancy lenses Not not to me. I mean aside from refusing to use my lens I'm just like, okay, I guess it means I don't have to buy lenses, which is nice And now we understand what random people feel like when Linus and I are jabbering on about random things memory timings are like Because they're sitting there arguing about stuff and we're both just like I have no idea what's going on It's like really what are they even talking about? I have no idea. I mean the funny thing is It's it's all the kind of stuff that no real person watching a video would ever Appreciate like the actual difference between what they're doing and what could have been done with some cheapo thing Like I would never notice and they actually can't even believe that I cannot tell the difference between Like 24 FPS and 30 FPS except that 24 just kind of looks like crappier and blurrier to me Like they're just like oh, it's more cinematic. I'm like, what do you mean? We're cinematic. What does that even mean? I think you mean there's asked a few times actually and I'm still awaiting the answer. What's actually better? Okay, the actual explanation is that for the longest time films were shot at 24 FPS not because they wanted to I'm pretty sure but because it was a Technological limitation at the time because I think before that it was like 20 or something for silent And then it was like a big deal when it went up to 24 and then sound and then something like there's some kind of a history I'm sure Diesel someone told me at some point and I was I was like kind of half-listening And so the idea sort of the philosophy is that we've been trained to watch movies at 24 frames per second And that is why that looks better to us. Oh, it's so lame and I totally don't buy it Smoother motion is smoother motion It's not like your eyes operate at 24 FPS and anyone who tells you that there's some kind of in like FPS limit to what your eyes can see and okay, there's a limit to what you can perceive but it's not in FPS It just doesn't work that way. It's not Our eyes aren't going your eyes aren't digital. It's not frames. There's no shutter So it's not quite like that and while I do agree that there are at very high frame rates There are sort of unnatural looking things, but I don't think that's necessarily to do with high frame rate content I think that's to do with the tricks that go on to make content look higher frame rate than it is so if you look at something like Samsung's clear motion TVs which operated up to 960 virtual Hertz where it just looks bizarre. You're like Okay, it's because they're taking 30 or 60 Hertz content They're 60 remember guys P like progressive is the same as FPS is the same as Hertz in the context of It's just how many per second of something so Hertz is cycles per second P usually refers to progressive frames per second and then it frames per second is frames per second So if they were to all align if you had 60 Hertz A 60 Hertz TV would be doing 60 image refreshes per second with 60 P or 60 FPS content You'd be getting new content on every cycle Whereas these clear motion TVs use backlight flickering as well as frame rate refreshes as well as some processing to Guestimate what an in-between frame would look like so if frame one is here and frame two is here It'll kind of create a fake frame here here here and so it ends up looking kind of weird But I'm not convinced it would look that weird if we actually shot at another thing that kind of blows me out of the water A little bit is like some companies Like gaming companies will make incredibly awesome in-game cinematics that run at really really high FPS Because they're actively rendered and they don't look weird So I don't think I'm that trained to look at 24 FPS So there's 16 new Twitter interactions and I'd like to make a bet with you Diesel's one of them? No, no, I don't think so. I don't think he watches the live stream I don't think so either I'm not that uh my ego isn't uh isn't that isn't that okay um five bucks says out of those 20 that are there now at least Three of them are defending 24 FPS What do you think? Hmm that's interesting I'm saying more than 10 percent are going to defend 24 FPS See I'm hedging a little bit Oh now there's 30 now Uh oh see now if we if we let this drag on for too long then they're just going to decide who they want to win Oh okay because I was going to say no Okay I'm still willing to say five Okay let's just go see let's go for it let's go for it Unban Barack Obama Okay That's him YT Jackson 10 10 2 I know who you are Saber 2377 or mpower okay oh I might oh I think I'm about to lose this one Glossy versus Matt monitor fish You can't calibrate your monitor on a website you need an actual tool for that See because the reason why I was going to go against you actually was because I think a lot of these are from before Oh You started talking about the topic the live stream is delayed Blah blah blah blah now we're past like the first five or ten Right so I'm in I'm in trouble Mineral oil cooled servers if it's professionally done it's probably fine That's professionally done mineral cool servers are a thing But you can't just like Yeah yeah that's not just like throwing mineral oil at a server No they have that vented to the roof like it's Hardcore There's other stuff going on than just the mineral oil Was Diesel's editing machine built by him? No I built it He actually uses the The SteelSeries Showcase PC So it's got an 875K in it 16 gigs of ram GTX 285 for CUDA acceleration What's the game with the best AI you've played? I really enjoyed the fear AI Actually But it got kind of samey eventually Because their tactics were pretty Well samey Litter quitter I will have an update soon actually I finally got footage of the cat using it The last stage has to be the slowest one right? Last stage of what? The last stage of litter quitter? No That's the one that takes the longest? It's done it's ready to go I've just been waiting to catch the cat using it on the camera Oh so are you going to the like Are you going to no litter quitter though? Yeah Cool that's going to be the most interesting part I think so Okay Chat's messed up Linus the pizza is missing Oyster pizza That is quite the thing That is quite the thing Please focus the camera on us And not the background I think we're in focus pretty well tonight People said this last time too I think part of the problem is that He's up here and I'm back here Someone says just for the record you didn't announce the live stream Oh Well that video is supposed to be up And apparently YouTube's just taking it's Sweet monkey time To go ahead and Get that going for us I mean I don't know honestly We start the live stream it used to be that I'd kind of wait For YouTube Peeps to join us whereas Now I mean I figure The people who really want to tune into the live stream Are here and the people who Want to wait until the YouTube announcement comes out Well they can wait until the YouTube announcement comes out And they can join when they join and that'll be that Alright Here's AI is just Clever level design Oh no mineral No don't do mineral oil No We're going to talk about the Blackmagic 4K camera A little bit later Okay so why don't we dive into our first topic Since no one defended 24 FPS and no one even like Came to my rescue here So apparently I owe you 5 bucks Was that the yes Yeah whatever You can Put it on my tab Pretty much Alright So what do you got for your first topic What do you want to talk about What do you want to do we can jump right into that Yeah why don't we get into 4K So for those of you who Don't know I guess it's not in here But I'll hold up the lens As a prop One quick second I'm going to be Tweeting out links to where we got our Topics from the whole night Oh okay so follow at SlickPC on Twitter If you want to see links to Where we got our information from Yes references So Blackmagic has a 4K camera that well first they did their 2.5K cinema Camera which was meant to just kind of Turn the entire Industry on its head because it was super Compact and it was relatively Inexpensive and The only problem was they couldn't produce them Because they had issues with the sensor the sensor was Adapted from some other kind of imaging Technology and yields were Something and such and such and such anyway So the prototypes worked and then the production ones Didn't and then they had to revise a bunch of Things anyway they're shipping them now but they've Announced two new cameras one Of them is a mini version Of the other one that instead of shooting at 2.5K only shoots at 1080p but I mean it's full HD But it's tiny Super super small and only a thousand Bucks this is like almost GoPro Sizing right it's I mean it's Bigger than a GoPro but like almost like it's getting there It's got pro grade Features in a camera that's Like smaller than a DSLR which is crazy And then they also announced a 4K Camera that has a price point of Four thousand dollars Which may actually Turn the industry on its head because The 4K camera I invested In which is an eight thousand dollar camera That was supposed to get a Firmware update to make it 4K ready Okay so it's not known at this Point first of all it was supposed to be coming Soon when I bought the camera which was Six months ago And it's now coming soon And you have to pay for it No not necessarily They don't know if it's pay or not pay yet Also it requires Not one but two additional pieces of hardware To actually record 4K which you do have to pay for Which you do have to pay for so it's Going to cost probably like six grand Plus Sony's hardware requires a proprietary Format Of card To go into it To record to 4K Whereas Blackmagic Okay with that said the FS Is going to do slow motion 4K Which is kind of a big deal But Blackmagic Is 30 fps 4K You can record to standard SD cards Or not SD cards, SSDs Any SSD you want Hopefully but we don't know that for sure You never know Cross your fingers Compression is a problem If your SSD is on the fly Okay so not on a San Force SSD But pretty much anything else As long as the sustained data rates are high enough And Wait I think that was the big deal 4K it's $4000 Oh yeah and it connects via Thunderbolt as well Which you can output via Thunderbolt Which is very very very cool So this sort of led me to The realization That 4K is Going to come down in price Faster than a lot of stuff Did before Do you remember how much a 1080p LCD TV cost At first? So much And now you can get a 1080p Fairly nice big LCD TV for like $700 But how long did that take? It took me in like Exactly So the first 4K TV Really hit the market last year Sony had a $25000 4K TV Alright Sony and this is tied Into another one of our news items Is releasing a $5000 4K TV this year So we've seen a one fifth Slashing pricing Within one year So what that tells us is a couple of things Number one is people aren't willing to pay a stupid premium For home entertainment Gear anymore which I guess we kind of already knew Like there's one guy Who bought that TV and like Dude you did good Sony's really happy about it It was probably cool like the one 4K thing that you found to watch on it For additional reference they're pretty similar Spec They're quite similar So they've realized That people aren't willing To actually pay extra For that anymore Which we learned again Which we've learned already with 3D But I think part of it was like oh well people don't like 3D So maybe that's why they're not willing to pay more But people always like more Resolutions so maybe they're willing to pay more for this It looks like not And Where was I going with this? Right 4K is coming and it's going to be cheap fast Right people aren't willing I don't think you're ever going to convince Consumers that a TV is worth more than $1000 again because right right right So the 4 or 5 year cycle that it took 1080p to get from super expensive I think it was longer Than that super expensive To just super affordable Um Whereas 4K I bet it does it in like 3 years Like you look at what happened with 3D TVs Remember how much those cost at first? Yeah they were stupid 5, 6 grand and no one Cared and no one cared 3D kind of sucks and there's like The only movies you can watch in 3D are like Avatar Animated movies Name something else Does behind the scenes Avatar have 3D like Like The Hobbit's coming But anyone who paid $6000 For their TV 2 years ago to watch The Hobbit Now sorta got boned Cause they could have just gone to the theatre and watched it 100 times Yes Wow that's a really good point You could just go to the theatre with a better experience anyways And take all your friends with you Every time Go see it over and over Again Until you're just tired of it Part of this I think comes into Like the longevity expectation of The old big CRT TVs Like the big They used to have like a wooden cabinet around them that was like Nicely crafted and stuff Like the longevity expectation of that was huge So your dad would save up for that forever And then he'd bring it home and he'd be all stoved And be like kids! Color! Everyone would hang around the color TV More inches! Yeah it was a huge deal It's not anymore TVs are so commodity So I had recently been considering Buying a 4K monitor And there were a couple of reasons for this One was that the monitor died and I needed a replacement anyway Number two was that I want to be able to run 4K benchmarks And number three is I really really want one Sort of the biggest one So I was looking at buying one And I can get one for about $4500 The Sharp PK321 Or something like that is the part number But what I realized is A couple of things And this is the biggest thing that I think is going to drive 4K to To cascade down in pricing Much more quickly Is the technology to produce it Is so mature Back when LCDs And yeah I'm getting there Back when LCDs and Or Plasmas or anything Like it was actually a new Innovative exciting technology Especially Plasma Man those were expensive But they were like weird Like experimental almost and like hard to do Yes Whereas the technology to just Make a TV higher res It's like come on Ok this phone Is 1080p Riddle me this Manufacturers why exactly If you can make a 4.7 inch 1080p device Can't you make a 9.2 inch 4K device Or a 19 inch 8K device Like you might have slightly more failure rates but But why actually Can't you do that? Yeah you could Because if you can charge $800 for a phone That actually has a processor And some RAM and some Flash storage and some cameras Well we got fairly fun we kind of I don't know if you remember this but I don't know if it was me Or you or one of us but We asked while we were at CES From a couple of the 4K manufacturers When are we going to see these in like 24 inch monitors And everyone gave us These just kind of like weird Answers Why don't they want to talk about this? They do not want to talk about it like they were all really weird answers I don't know the funny thing to me too though is like It's not like they're making Any money on 1080p monitors Anymore I know this it's commodity The LG 1080p IPS panels 16499 159 now They went down again I don't want to put it in the weekly sales I've done it like twice already I'm just like ehh It dropped again I don't know It's unbelievable so if they could even get Like 500, 600, 700 bucks For a 4K monitor why not? Yes So anyway I have put off my 4K monitor purchase Because guys like Blackmagic Are coming in and destroying The The artificial margin That's been built up For 4K production equipment So we're going to start seeing content Also you've got guys Like Sony realizing Yeah that's coming You've got guys like Sony realizing that Oh people aren't going to pay 25 grand for 4K Okay let's try 5K I think next year they're going to realize That didn't work either it's going to be 3500 So as that happens The undercutting is going to come Really fast because the technology is so mature Everyone and their dog could manufacture A 30 inch 4K display at this point Like not everyone and their dog Like Slick couldn't do it no offense Like you're a cool guy I respect you and appreciate you I couldn't do it either Oh yeah the other thing is Right now Sharp pretty much has A monopoly on professional 4K Monitors that don't cost 30 grand Like an ISO I was like what you want 30 grand for? Are you guys drunk with Sharp releasing A 4500 dollar Competitor like now? Anyway So Sony is Prototyping a 30 inch 4K OLED display With that said I don't know if I'm sold on OLED on the desktop It's kind of weird they'd have to put like a back Blade on it which would just kind of Defeat the purpose and I'd have to know That I'd have to know that It's actually that Many of each color by that many Of each color like I don't want to see any sort of Tomfoolery like what Samsung did with S3 where your text doesn't Look crisp anymore I mean the whole point of a high Res monitor or display is Crisp image and if you're Using any weird interpolation or anything Like that you're going to end up with a negative Experience I can't even copy links Sorry completely unrelated Slick needs my sexy Aspire S7 that I still love Even though it's not perfect You know what I don't think that YouTube announcement Has gone out yet for some reason We're having some problems with Google tonight Yeah Google's not so happy with us I think That's just bizarre Should I just try re-uploading it or something? Maybe That's weird Should I give them context so they know even what's going on? Yeah sure So I prepared a document a Google doc Document for us earlier today For the live stream with all of our topics and everything And then when we got back here I went to go try and add some things to it And couldn't edit the document even though it was under my name Tried on another computer Under my name again Couldn't edit the document again like I'm on the right account Everything's fine I can't edit the document Linus goes on it was shared to him He was able to edit the document Kind of weird But I was still able to like check links and open links And do stuff Now I can't even like copy things I can't copy things I can't open links I can't do anything So that's weird So we tried uploading a video And it's just hanging right at the completion part And it's not actually uploading the video Yeah so it's been sitting there for half an hour Because that video should have actually been live Around the time we launched the live stream Either way for our loyal viewers All 1500 of you Who didn't need us to launch a YouTube Announcement video thank you so much For tuning in because otherwise it would just be Me and you Sitting here talking to each other Alone in the garage Okay it wouldn't be so bad We can't do that a lot Yeah I know right Alright what's our next topic So yeah 4K don't invest yet Because it's going to go like this And even faster than before Because it used to be consumer electronics And the companies behind them Were really good at Artificially maintaining margin Compared to sort of computer industry Where it's just like Take everything Yeah freefall forever And then if you make any slight increases Like RAM Just the every one It's just like no It's $10 more than it was before Yeah stop buying RAM So they used to be good at that I don't think they are anymore I think it's over I think people being willing To pay a premium for it is over And the desperation will set in Because the reality of it is You cannot have factories sitting on it You cannot have factories sitting idle It will Not work That will destroy you faster Than producing product at a loss Believe it or not So there you go It's true It's completely true We can do Google buying WhatsApp or Intel Haswell Why don't we do a little bit of Twitter Q&A Since these are apparently Our most loyal Our most loyal followers here Alright just get 3 by the 27 inch Korean IPS display It's not a bad idea although I'd probably go 30 inch Just because 16 by 9 drives me crazy Bioshock Infinite was amazing Y'all Like Possibly the best game I've played in a really long time Like Bioshock Infinite was Absolutely amazing the ending I'm not going to spoil anything But just It's so awesome I replayed the segment again Just so I could go through everything and make sure that I actually Got every single one of the just Insane amounts of brain explosions that go on For about half an hour That just don't stop like It's just It's amazing so good I'm partially doing this just because he hasn't played it yet But amazing And like huge fan of Bioshock One And oh no time So good Yeah speaking of Him not sort of doing Any spoilers I did get called out For Harry Potter spoilers in a previous Livestream pretty hardcore I got an email probably about this Long explaining to me that not everyone Has read Harry Potter and watched The movies and apparently I hardcore Wrecked the ending so Yeah And I think The other one about me Someone said I should have spoiler Alerted my thing about Star Wars I think that one might have been a troll But I'm not 100% sure But the Harry Potter one I wanted to apologize to all the People who I Ruined the ending for What do you guys Oh yeah okay we already covered that There's one there you go One of what? It's coming up Oh actually 24.97 FPS that matters well thank you 50 inch 1200 dollar 4k TV Seiki 50 inch 4k see it was a matter of time Before like that's exactly it That's faster than we thought Some random underdog Random brand because it's Not actually difficult to Manufacture Is gonna just do it and then everyone Will have to follow So N Gadgets reporting From Seiki They've got a 50 inch 4k tv I think we saw them there I think We saw them at CES I think so Well yeah so like there's no No problem we'll go out of this way guys what costs money to make Is it pixels? Is it physical size? So if you had Okay so 50 inch Diagonal so if you had a 27 inch LCD monitor say for example At 1080p what does that Cost to buy 250 bucks? 27 inch? Yeah if that 300? TN? IPS? Let's say not TN Maybe 350? A bit more than probably Okay so if you can produce 4 of those For 350 bucks each then you can Probably make a 4k tv for 1200 dollars And so that's That's how things need to go A slick has different Clothes today, ho slick Got it for free from my grandpa And that is how All of your clothes were acquired It's either Someone gave it to me as a gift or I got it From PAX so Yeah I mean it's not like every industry hasn't gotten In trouble for price fixing at some point or another But I mean it's It's not even always about price fixing A lot of the time it's just Like maintaining margin because You actually do need to make money As a company If Linus Media Group operated on No margin for anything That we did he wouldn't get paid And I wouldn't get paid and We wouldn't eat and We'd go to business We don't charge anything for our content Well we don't charge viewers Yeah we barely charge viewers However you had a brilliant idea For how viewers can contribute to Linus Media Group Without actually giving us any money Bitcoin mining Okay so other people have done this This isn't an original idea But and people suggested This on the forum there's Bitcoin Mining pools and if you join a pool you can join Up with a whole bunch of other people Join together and try and calculate bitcoins The problem is when an Organization runs it like us the only Way to really legitimately do it is if we take Everything and we've Noticed that a few other people that are doing it aren't That transparent About that point They're just like yeah join our Bitcoin mining Tool some people spell it out but not Everyone so Like for example Logan from Tech Syndicate Has a similar thing going and it's called Out specifically Bitcoin mining for Tech Syndicate Is to benefit Tech Syndicate Yeah and if we started one It would be to benefit us because It's it's I don't Exactly know how it all works but to be able to make It so there's like equal payouts and everything we would have I think we have to be doing it too And like pretty hardcore and But that's fine because we can We can turn it on and we probably Will at some point We probably should at some point I mean it feels Even with the volatility lately I mean it's going to stay around I think There's a few of them that seem to be kind of popping up at Disappearing but Bitcoin seems to be kind of The thing I like about Bitcoin Is it's not the anonymity actually I mean I think it's not anonymous That's what oh a lot of it is You can track transactions 100% there's a permanent Log of every single transaction Every single person knows everything that's going on Bam That's not the impression that I'm under That's 100% Attaching the ID to your actual Person is hard but if you're Well that there that's what I'm talking about Okay hold on hold on so personal anonymity It's a way to electronically Still be anonymous without doing a cash deal Right okay that's what I mean No I didn't mean like protecting your Unique IDs as a start no no no no no no no So the anonymity I don't know if I like That much I mean the It's going to happen anyways personally I don't care okay Yes massive transactions People always call them out so it's going to be Fairly small transactions which are pretty easy to do under the table Anyways I really don't think it'll change Okay this is true but the thing that I do like About it compared to other currencies is you Can't print more Yeah there's a fixed amount There's a fixed number of bitcoins so the curve goes like this How many can exist and then it Maxes I think what is it 30 million bitcoins or Something like that I can't remember the number It's something some some number of bitcoins And so I mean that's The thing that makes something like Gold actually valuable Is that you actually can't Just cut down a few more trees And manufacture a bit more ink And make more of it Because there's a finite Amount on the earth and it's Actually like useful for something And that's the one disadvantage bitcoin has against Gold where gold is Actually useful like it's You manufacture things but you're going to Consume it in some way and people just Intrinsically value it because it's Inert and it Doesn't corrode and it's Great for it's all these different Things It doesn't corrode and all that kind of stuff Bitcoins aren't going to corrode You can lose them though You can legitimately lose bitcoins and then they're gone forever Okay fair enough So the fixed maximum Is actually going to dip a little bit But the amount that it's going to be measurable Because most people are going to be really careful with their bitcoins Because basically if you have your wallet Because you locally store your wallet Or you can store it in the cloud but then that's not guaranteed in any way And if they run with all your bitcoins Or if they just close At all it's just like oh that's unfortunate So I just wouldn't do that No so if you locally store it and your drive Dies your bitcoins are gone Right so back up your data Yet another back up your data Lesson yeah back up your Money back up your Back up your money Yeah that okay so it looks like our YouTube Announcement is finally out Okay finally yeah I'm going to be interested into The first time that there's a huge E-heist On bitcoins When someone jacks like a whole bunch of bitcoins It'll happen at some point There's tracked transactions so I'm wondering how that's actually going to go down But then like Oh man I think I'm sure it'll happen at some point Someone will figure something out like nothing's Completely infallible I mean you look at why it Fell so dramatically it was because Mountain gox or whatever they call themselves The biggest bitcoin exchange Was getting DDoSed for like a couple days And that caused just Mass panic and the bitcoin Fell to almost half of its Recent previous high with that said It was on a bubble so who Knows sort of what's going on so it'll be Honestly still Label me a skeptic I'm still a Skeptic about the whole virtual currency Thing I still think gold and diamonds And actually probably Diamonds to a lesser extent because if anyone Ever figures out how much diamond there actually Is out there I suspect the value's going to go like this But gold To a greater extent I think Is going to still be just like It was a thousand years ago And a thousand years before that it'll be A thousand years from now still a currency So there you can quote me on that So anyway If it's not a currency it'll be highly valued And tradable just like bitcoins are Tradable yes You'll be able to get currency for it Apparently you played got hacked by some Russians you played did get hacked by some Russians They unlocked all their available games and they got A playable version of blood dragon Really? Yeah so there's some baked footage online So be careful if you're worried about spoilers Blood dragon isn't being released until May 1st so If you're waiting for it we might as well Talk about blood dragon okay so It's called Far Cry 3 blood dragon But has nothing to actually do with Far Cry 3 Other than like the back end And you'll notice like if you knife some Guy it's the exact same animation And like sometimes you'll see people running around And it's the exact same thing and a lot of The enemies are done with like the exact Same AI the exact same movement patterns Like the exact same all that kind of stuff But the whole idea of the game The layout of the game the time frame of the game All that kind of stuff is different When you're like roaming around in free roam There's still like jaguars and stuff But now they're like robotic and have laser eyes So blood dragon is That's like headache Conducing it's like everything that was Bad about gaming it's It's an homage to the 80s so all the cut Scenes and everything are like brutal 8 bit Your guy is called like Rex Colt Sergeant Rex Colt Which is like just the best Name ever it's It's kind of amazing The whole thing is an homage to the 80s It's like if you ever heard of Kavinsky the like techno artist Electronic artist guy Like everything is in that style There's crazy lights everywhere LEDs are on Everything every single ladder The side bars are like covered in LEDs And the crossbars are covered in LEDs And your guns shoot like Tracer everything shoots tracer There's just like Your like blade Just has a big light on it Because it's the 80s And we're talking about in the future In 2007 Like the whole thing is Supposed to be in the future in 2007 So it's in the past now whatever It looks really cool You can probably only seriously appreciate It if you played games from back in the day 15 bucks Yeah it's 15 bucks it's stand alone So you don't need to own Far Cry 3 If you were in the never Settle bundle you just get it Every single possible bundle level So don't worry about which bundle level you're on You just get retroactively You get it so you'll get an email That's amazing What AMD is doing with their never settle bundle we've talked about this before But that's just crazy We'll give them some more attention yet again That's a 7970 If you bought that or anything remotely like it In the last few months you're probably going to get a copy Of Far Cry Our Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon So there you go Very very cool and I mean it's So rare to take a customer That you already got their money And give more things to them And they bought a graphics card so it's not like they're going to be A customer again for a bit Until they're done with that graphics card And just be like Okay here you go Here's like a what is probably Going to sell incredibly well Additional adder Yes and it's not like it doesn't cost AMD Anything like guys Do not underestimate How much it costs manufacturers To include a game with your Piece of hardware One of the most confusing things I saw This was on the forum actually I don't remember who it was or what thread it was in But someone was like I don't take games into consideration When buying graphics cards because I'm just going to buy them anyways And I was like Oh my goodness Like you're going to buy That anyways having it come With your graphics card is literally Only saving you money It's like cash Especially if you were going to buy it anyway If you weren't going to buy it anyway then maybe Don't factor it in Wow really? 100% and I was just all my confusion Yeah and I mean Honestly I've heard this argument before too People are like oh well the game manufacturer should just Give the game to the graphics card guys to Get it out there and I'm just like That's like the most asinine thing I've ever heard If they give you like a discount code yeah Or trial That's like saying that you know Red the camera company that makes super high End 4K cameras should just Give their cameras to every studio to use To get their name out there that's their customer It's the only customer They have like some New game with some fancy engine Like if they gave it to everyone who Bought a new graphics card they just gave it to everyone Who could possibly buy it Like that's not getting Your name out there that's just Giving away potential sales That's not how marketing works Like at all So yeah Blood Dragon looks amazing it's 15 bucks So it's like nothing If you can't afford 15 bucks right now Wait for the summer sale it'll probably go on sale Yeah probably So if you're worried about the 15 bucks now it'll probably be 10 Or 8 or something Or it'll come like bundled with something else that's like cool Considering it already is I don't know Back up your money and data yes YouTube announcement just went up yeah we know Well apparently it's sunny in the Down under town it's raining like crazy Here so it sucks Bitcoins are obtained by Basically calculating numbers You do calculations and the calculations Are getting harder all the time At the beginning anyone with any random CPU could start calculating getting Bitcoins it has now become to The point where if you actually expect to get bitcoins You better be CPU and GPU mining And it's going to get to the point Soon where if you actually expect to be getting Bitcoins you better be running a seek Miner and after that I don't even Know what to expect But yeah it's getting brutal because Everyone is jumping on this And like just solo mining By yourself with a CPU is Like if you get If you get bitcoins like Good job that was pretty lucky Because it's Basically only the last person To finish the final number crunch So to speak actually gets The benefit of all the work that went into creating That bitcoin I took this analogy From someone else so this isn't My idea but I don't remember the guys name so I can't actually Quote them sorry but the way he described It and it's really good is it's a gigantic mine At the beginning and All the top is just covered in bitcoins And as you go down there's less and less and less Bitcoins and the rock and everything gets Denser and denser and denser so it's harder To get and there's less the calculations Are harder the calculations take longer And there's less of them so as we go down To down to down to down it's going to become almost Impossible for people running just CPU mining To get anything yeah Here let's move into another One of our discussion topics for the night Why don't we talk about the increases in In speed for a couple cool Interfaces alright so USB 3.0 is going to Apparently be increasing their spec to 10 gigabits per second and Thunderbolt is next gen thunderbolt This will be two times faster so 20 gigabit per second yeah So the arms race between USB 3 And thunderbolt is in full Force so for those of you Who don't know I guess let's do a little bit Of discussion about USB 3 and thunderbolt So right now they're rated at 5 gigabit per second for USB 3 And 10 gigabit Per second for thunderbolt now You know this is kind of funny cause I've heard the argument that USB 3 is Inferior just in general Because much like USB So remember the old USB 2 versus firewire Argument Where firewire was 400 megabit per second USB 2 Was 480 megabit per second but it was a shared bus So all the USB 2 Ports had to share that bandwidth but firewire Was a dedicated point to point you Have this no matter what you know what I call bollocks on that argument that's a Stupid argument and I've heard the same one For thunderbolt versus USB 3 because Quite frankly Who is the only person In the world who has plugged so many USB 3 devices in that They've saturated them to the point where they're not fast enough With 5 gigabit shared How many devices Do you need that are very demanding And very intensive plugged into a computer At a time? No average user But they've got like a keyboard a mouse Maybe a stand alone mic And then some kind of storage thing Or like a capture thing And that's probably it And they've still got tons of head room And there's still head room for sure Unless we're talking like 4k capture or something like that In which case you know what You should probably just be recording To an SSD directly anyway Over a real storage interface Or have like a stand alone added card Because the problem with thunderbolt is that It's actually not It doesn't perform that great Back when we tested USB 3 Versus thunderbolt with dedicated Storage devices in fact I think one of them is On the wall behind us kind of right There sorry no I'm trying to point in the camera I know but you poked my head What we found Was that USB 3 was better optimized For random I.O. Which means it's more like SATA than thunderbolt And actually performs better Unless the data is entirely Sequential than thunderbolt Which is just it's better optimized in my opinion And I mean to me I mean Thunderbolt is interesting as like a single Sort of point to point And it's kind of nice if you have like two Baller monitors And you can just be like doop But I mean even that is like Why? Does it actually matter? And the fact that the bandwidth Drops after each Daisy chain means you've probably lost A good 25 to 30 percent of it by the Time you reach that fifth or sixth device We've measured about a 10 percent drop each time And that's not even in bottlenecked Situations So that's us taking just like two hard Drives and going how fast is this one now Just going off the second one so there's nothing Going on with the first one. Nothing going on with the first One so it's like it's not It's not that great I'm not That sold on this whole thunderbolt thing I mean if it was Actually optical the way that it was supposed to be And it could do Distance then that'd be cool But USB 3 with an active Cable. Cause yeah we've got Powered like awesome Or not powered but like chips on each end Active cables that can extend. You can do 10 meters no Problem. Yeah. That's pretty far That's quite substantial. That's as far as I can Imagine most things you plug Into a computer needing to go so I mean I think thunderbolt is Probably going to go the way of firewire There. You can quote me on that Unless it Gains such widespread adoption That you know Your entire system Is connected to the entire Everything else via thunderbolt. But then You've got 50 bucks a cable No well they'll be cheap by then In all likelihood. It's taken a long time It hasn't been out that long It's been out like a year and a half come on. Still There's still 50 bucks a cable than they were when they came out Well okay yeah but it's not mainstream It's still niche. But then it has to get Mainstream. It has to get mainstream Somehow. USB 3 is just It may just be doomed to To be just niche and that'll be That forever and the unfortunate Thing about thunderbolt is that It requires compatibility Through the chipset Itself through the CPU. Thunderbolt will Not work on an x79 Platform because it has to be integrated With display port which means it has to have An onboard video component So the only way thunderbolt is going to be able to be Implemented on computers is going to be Not like firewire where you can just put an Add in firewire card. You can't do that with Thunderbolt. You have to have a supporting infrastructure As well so I think that's going to be a major Major stopping point For it as well. Think about it this way The only real application I can think of For thunderbolt even at 10 gigabit per second Never mind 20 is something like Professional video capture And maybe it's just the industry I'm in but that's The only thing I can really think of or any kind of Mass data professional capture Okay. But then you're at Like super niche professional level anyways Yes and does super niche professional Level anything use a single socket Consumer grade machine Oh that's a really good Point because now they have to use USB 3 Right because that didn't clear it away X79 doesn't support thunderbolt And then the second you go to dual cpu It's not going to have onboard graphics That's right So I don't know There's some I guess. We'll see what happens And I mean the problem with With sort of thunderbolt sort of connecting Everything is why and how Long is it going to take? We still have VGA Cables around for crying out loud Do you know a single dual cpu board That has display port? Because there's Some servers like servers will have onboard graphics But I don't know any that have display port Most of them have VGA still. Yeah not display port Like you look at how slow professional Grade equipment actually moves Why would you have a server with Display port? That's ridiculous anyways That's why I like that's why I wouldn't Ever see it on there. Like a high end workstation Type of device I mean maybe But we're talking so niche For so long that by then it just Might not actually be relevant I mean if USB 3 was able to react With a speed bump this quickly Is there another one in there? It's USB. They move pretty quick I mean they were slow With USB 2. That kind of stuck around forever But USB 2 was kind of like Golden medium at the same time. Everyone loved it And it won And they just kind of hung out I still wish every keyboard was PS2 though Yeah I wish every Board had like 100% I couldn't be more with you on that one It needs to be PS2. Oh my goodness 27 and 30 inch mono price monitors Are a good value. They're basically just like You know North American QC on those cheapo Korean Panels. 100 watts Over USB. Wow Fascinating. Hadn't heard About that yet Cool. So you're Not only going to be able to transfer massive Data over USB but you're going to be able To like keep your drink warm That's actually pretty crazy TP-Link products Never really gotten into it To be perfectly honest. I've never Actually held one in my hands Unless I unboxed one once. I have. I'm pretty sure We have. Did we? Okay I know I have but it was outside of work Inside of work I think we have at least once Not memorable then Will we ever see external graphics through Thunderbolt? Yes So that's an application where it could be A big deal. Do we still? No we don't still have No I sent it back. Okay So it's a Magma enclosure but it's not The drivers are not enabled by AMD and Nvidia Yet. It'll get there. Does getting A sound card in your No No of course not Thank you so much for the help Before Linus what is one of your All time favourite childhood games? TIE Fighter, Final Fantasy 6 More wins But I don't know if that counts as far enough back To say childhood so Red Alert 1, Red Alert 2, Diablo 1, Diablo 2. Oh yeah and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles on NES. Oh That was such a good game. That's so good Can you do sound Card reviews? Not really The problem with sound cards is beyond Me just saying holy crap this sounds good It's great go buy it. There's tons Of really really hard To do in depth things that you'd have to do to Actually review it accurately. Yeah. And it would Take a huge amount of time. Like actually I don't think anyone actually Has the gear to properly do a sound Card review where if you were taking The Looks like we're live again Yay! So I don't know. There's The universal fix which is Sorry a little comedic break One of my forum Moderators just added a plus Side to this whole situation that While the stream is down the forum's Actually up So Yeah! Yes! Oh man Point one for 18. So hopefully It stays up this time. It looks like the problem Was related to us somehow All I did to fix it Was power cycle the router which Reminds me of that South Park Episode where the entire internet In all of America goes down And it turns out that it just needs to be unplugged And plugged back in So there you go Not sure exactly what was going on Because for whatever reason I was able to load webpages Like YouTube and Twitter like I was Tweeting while our internet was Out and we were Not able to stream on Twitch so Very very bizarre I'm just going to tweet that we're back up So at least I think We're back up. We have 12 viewers so all 12 of you who hung with us Here thank you very much. So I want to pick Up where we left off on the Haswell Integration Of the RM into the CPU So it used to be that motherboard manufacturers Could differentiate Themselves both in terms of cheaping out On voltage regulation as well as In terms of putting really premium Voltage regulation on their high end boards because The more stable the voltage you can Deliver to the CPU the better The overclocking experience Because you're able to Reach those higher frequencies And not have it just like Freak out and especially burn out Over time. So by Putting this on the CPU Intel's done a couple of things. Number one is they've Prevented cheapo Motherboard manufacturers from making Their CPUs look unstable and crappy By not building a good enough Board to go with it but they've also removed The ability of motherboard manufacturers To differentiate from each other in Yet another way. What's Actually left? What will What will Gigabyte or Asus or MSI or some Premium motherboard manufacturer do To make their board premium? We've got like built In Wi-Fi which is already like Pretty niche on a desktop motherboard. They can't Change RAM performance. Oh, oh, okay. That's weird. You asked me what they could do. Let's say Okay, let's take all the things. Well Okay, what they could do was going to be a very short List so I was going to go with what they can't Do. So they can't Change RAM performance because it's all On the IMC. They can't Change graphics performance because The only thing they can do now even is On board. Is um, what? They can't change graphics performance In general. What are they going to do? Yeah, but like They can put more PLX splitter chips on Go, oh, we have four way 16X. But really what they're Doing is they're taking those two 8X And they're just splitting them. Which is brutal. Which is not Actually increasing the bandwidth. Just so you know. It's Really, it's kind of not that good. It's like if you have like a It's like if you have a funnel and you turn It upside down. It's like yeah It's really wide here but you can Only get this much water through it so Who cares? And it actually Increases latency as well. So they can't Differentiate on graphics performance. They can't differentiate on overclocking Anymore. Which is Brutal. Which is about all that's left right now. Because the biggest thing has been like overclocking Motherboards. Now it's just going to turn into like lifestyle Motherboards. They can't differentiate On I.O. really. Because Wi-Fi, Wi-Fi Bluetooth. Which like Everyone's going to do it now. Because it's one of the few things you can do to make a premium Motherboard. And What else is there? Wi-Fi Bluetooth. Thunderbolt. Thunderbolt. Really nice built in sound. USB 3's still is built into The new chipset. So they don't even get to differentiate By being like we have lots of USB 3. What do you think is going to be next? I kind of think it might be sound. Sound? You know what? The problem with sound is That most people don't even get it. They don't even appreciate it. They don't even know they need it. What else is there? They're going to take another thing off on the next iteration. Killer Nick. Honestly though. MSI's Gaming Motherboards have E2200 Killer Nick Gaming. I'm still Not convinced it does anything. I like Intel LAN. Intel LAN Is solid. Yeah. It kind of is. So, I mean Color schemes would actually still sway My buying decision. Sales teams could totally do it. Like the That one's not it. That one's on a bench. Dang. The Asus ROG logo That can like breathe and stuff. Yeah. Like the lighting effects. Modding. The lighting effect on that motherboard Where it kind of like looks as if the one corner's Cracked where the sound section is. That's cool. Someone needs to bring back UV reactive motherboards as well. That would be like balling. MSI should come up with a rainbow board again. And you know what the funny thing is? Is they're going to have all this Extra space on the PCB Where no traces are actually Routing. And then like random extra functionality. That always looks so awkward. I know. Some company just for jokes Should just like fill it with capacitors that go nowhere. Like they're not even capacitors. They're just like Shells. Like they look like little Pepsi cans or something. MSI could do like Shell casings. Yeah. There's just a fake pile of shell casings in the corner that does nothing. On the board. It's not a heat sink. It's just sitting there. Does nothing. That would be fantastic. It can light up. I mean that's pretty much Where we're heading though because We can bring back onboard speakers and when you go into overclocking mode It can like rev up or something. So here's the thing is I mean I don't know if I brought this up to you but One of Intel's engineers didn't ask me anything on Reddit. And what he said was That Haswell would be an overclocker's delight. And a lot of people Interpreted that to mean that unlike Ivy Bridge which really Because it didn't overclock to the same frequencies As Sandy Bridge about 10% lower It's 10% improvement In IPC that is the performance per Clock actually was offset Making them for an overclocker Perform equally. So there was no performance Improvement. So what a lot of people interpreted This Haswell comment to mean Was that Haswell would be some kind of A beast amazing overclocker That would bring IPC improvements and Improved frequencies. And we don't know that it won't Because I don't think anyone has their hands on Anywhere near production silicon Yet What we What I think he meant Is that Haswell will be overclockable On any platform On any cheapo board So all of a sudden You can buy a 119.99 Board And you will get exactly The same performance as someone Who just blew $400 on their motherboard Exactly the same performance Which is just You know what One of the interesting value adds to Is that you can overclock your computer With a mobile device And they're no longer locking down Base clock overclocking the same way they used to Right. Yeah. What are the new T's now? 100, 125, and 166 or something like that if I recall Frankly. So you're not going to be locked into Because it used to be only on unlocked Chips you could boost up the multi Now you're going to be able to set Different base clock levels in much the same Way that we used to be able to do with Oh crap I can't even remember It was like hyper transport Multis or something stupid like that on AMD chips. I don't remember what it was Anymore but you could actually overclock the system Bus in some weird way But there were different actual Oh it's kind of like a RAM divider there So it's sort of like A RAM divider where It'll turn up with the rest of the system But You could clock it, you could bring it back And then it would still be within threshold So I think it's going to be kind of like that but it remains To be seen. I haven't actually played around with it yet So that's That's exciting. Someone's asking Why I'm hating on my international Viewers. I'm just looking at Twitter right now I don't know how I hate International viewers. I love international Viewers. You guys are awesome. We're streaming at a Time that should be like easier for No actually it's not. No? It's like Four in the morning in some parts of Europe We're hitting like right in the Atlantic Ocean Aren't we? Yeah. For like prime Time. Prime time is like There's like one dude Somewhere in the, on an island Japan and Russia? That's like the No even Japan is at the same Time zone as Australia Oh brutal. Yeah so it's like early Afternoon. So we're literally hitting Like on the water. Yes God that's bad. So it's like Someone's watching us at breakfast in like The Middle East And then Someone's watching us at like Prime time in the middle of the Pacific Ocean Beautiful. Yeah. So it's actually We're gonna change our time at some point. Not even At some point. We're gonna change our Stream time very soon. My wife's going back to work Her maternity leave is over in a couple Of weeks and her new Shift schedule is gonna have her coming Home at 9.30 on Friday nights Which means Slick and I will not Be able to start streaming at 9 o'clock on a Friday Night because I will have the baby So we are going to move it In the next two weeks. In fact you know What we should do is we should create a forum thread We should create a poll. Definitely. Okay we're gonna Create a poll on the forum. We want you Guys to vote for what time you want us To do the live stream. We'll come up with a couple Options. Yeah we'll come up with some options that actually Work for us. Hopefully the poll actually Works for us. No no my Ass one did. Okay. It's all good. Did you add Things to it? Did you have more than three? Yes tons Yeah so it's all good. But we'd love for you guys to help us Pick the optimal stream time So that you guys can actually Actually Tune in. Someone asked what if Thunderbolt Is in a dedicated GPU. It doesn't work that way Thunderbolt has to be Has to be tied in Very tightly to the platform Itself. Someone just tweeted At me telling me to check chat Chat for us to be able It's nearly impossible for us to be able to Check up with chat. We're not always looking at the screens We're often looking at the camera. I try to check Things as often as I can but it's mainly For stability. Twitch chat moves like this It's insanely fast. If you Tell me to check chat I have no idea what you're Talking about. And I mean we've talked about What to do about this and we don't know Because slow mode everyone hates Honestly I think slow mode's kind of stupid It's really slow If you actually have stuff to say. It allows For no back and forth. No conversation Between viewers. And it's really Difficult because we still have Tons of people in the chat so it's still Going fast but now none of the conversations Make any sense. Yes. Subscribing those once We have a subscriber button Is ridiculous because I don't like it Only paying people get it. Yeah And we only stream once a week So if we were asking what is it? Five bucks a month? It's five bucks a month and we only stream once a week Which is ridiculous already. So that would basically Work out to like a buck twenty five a Stream. Which honestly isn't that bad But like it's for the privilege of Being able to talk to other people who Paid a buck twenty five to watch the stream Which is just kind of nuts so that's not okay And then full flowing is also Not really okay. Not okay So my solution is guys Get off the Twitch chat and get on Twitter Because Twitter's manageable At least I can keep on reloading My Twitter and then slowly read through it As I look down. It's a lot easier To deal with. Like I can go like this and I can Go okay here's some of the Twitter Stuff. Here's the most relevant. It gives Me a time stamp so I can actually It doesn't move as I'm trying to read it Which is really nice. So guys However much you might Oh I don't use Twitter because Celebrities use Twitter or whatever Reason you have for not using Twitter Get over it because it's actually Useful. Follow like Two people and just log into it on Fridays For an hour and a half. Use it for Nothing else. That's Fine. Use it For nothing else. I actually don't care You don't have to follow us I have a lot of people that are like You know what's funny is on my Facebook It says don't message me here I have a hundred unread messages In my inbox that are from the last few weeks It says don't message me here Message me on Twitter. I don't check these Messages. I get messages From people that say I know it says not to message you here But I don't have a Twitter account so this And I'm like wow Just wow Twitter is free If it's actually If you actually want a response Actually following the instructions that I give Is probably helpful Someone tweeted me Why don't you use tweet deck. Adjustable columns make it easier to monitor We're not complaining about Twitter being easy to monitor Yeah Twitter is easy to monitor We like it. We're complaining about Twitch chat It's good. Okay so won't Power features play a big part for Haswell Boards and overclocking. Absolutely not because power is Now on the chip Does 65 watt cellulant or Pentium get as hot as a 65 watt core i3 At full load. It really depends. I mean TDP is one of those things that's been measured a billion Different ways by a billion different companies At every different point in time Because it's all about how they want to present the data There were Prescott CPUs That kicked out A lot of heat And were rated at this TDP Because Whenever you talk about For some reason I always use the CPUs. Whenever I hear the name I always think of like an old man in a suit Prescott It was named after some kind of like War dude or something. Yeah It's very official. He apparently was like a bad Dude if I recall correctly. Oh really? It wasn't a good thing. I remember it was off Some yeah but yeah anyways Apparently it's breakfast time in Denmark Awesome. Denmark It's like sad badminton news all over The place. Peter Gada retired Not that long ago and I saw he was doing Training For what's your name's Farewell match as well So one of their premier lady players is Retiring as well and there's like Not that they have a doubles pair That's sort of Performed really well at the Olympics and is fairly well Regarded. You don't care. No idea. Yay Denmark Badminton 6am in Ireland. Okay that's pretty Early for breakfast. I don't eat breakfast at 6am I'm sleeping screw that Probably just because you're asleep. Yeah Probably not asleep yet Actually I've Seen like two videos from the slow mo guys Oh my gosh Oh crap I can't remember the name of the company. Phantom Phantom cameras They have a 4k Thousand FPS camera That they were showing off How much does that cost? 160 grand My Goodness. What I wouldn't Give like if I could Give up a part of my body To have one of those I wonder what it would be If you could give up a part What would you give up? Yeah What's the most that you'd be willing to give up? You know what? If I personally Nothing. Not interested. I would give A single testicle What You'd only need one I would give a kidney A kidney? You'd give a kidney over a testicle Yes. Why? Because you don't need both your kidneys. But you actually Don't need both of your testicles I'd rather give up all my kidneys. Why? I don't know it's just weird Okay the thing about a kidney Is if your other kidney fails Then you only have one and you're going to die Unless you get a Donor. Whereas a testicle If your other testicle fails Your hypothetical children That you now don't have to worry About No one will care and no one will die I just People with knives can just Stay away from that area Nope. Just go away That's all I have to say No. Just leave that part of me alone He's good Everybody else is good That's very Interesting That's just I mean kidneys are useful They actually do stuff Yeah. Yeah. Like they Filtered like you know bad Things from your pee Two is better than one You know what I would do too? After I gave one away? Just sell the camera Just sell the camera. So you're saying Okay. Okay. So hold on a second. You're saying you'd Put a cash money price Okay. Well okay. This doesn't work If you're only looking at it as cash The idea is that the Phantom 1000fps camera has some intrinsic value To me because it's this super high end piece of kit That you can do really crazy cool stuff with Okay. How about this? If You could have Let's see. What's like something that you really Care about? If you could I don't know Apprentice Under Gabe Newell for the rest of his Career or something Like you could just kind of follow Him around every day. He might not even talk to you But you just get to kind of hang with him Okay fine. He talks to you Okay. Am I apprenticing under Gabe Newell or am I creepishly following around? A little from column A, a little from Column B going you What? How does that even make any Sense? Okay. Okay. You're Fine. Let's say not forever. Let's say a year A year is a lot But he actually gives you Attention. If he like Tries to teach me and train me and like Pass on wisdom. Testicle? Probably That would be so cool I would have to buy like The most experimental no sleep Drugs ever. Just so that I could just not sleep for a year And just absorb all possible information And then try to get a job At Valve Because like What else do you do at that point? Okay. So same thing. Okay fine. Without the Gabe Newell Apprenticeship. Let's say you don't even get to talk to Gabe But you get to work at Valve. Testicle? Very possibly. That company Is just a cool company And like just so awesome That is a very cool company Honestly I don't want kids so realistically This situation is not that difficult to Choose. But a camera I just don't Care about. Right. But oh Think of all the cool slow mo stuff A thousand FPS Ah I have no like Okay that's cool. I can film like My dog jumping for a ball No no no no At a thousand FPS you can You can film like a sneeze And like And that's pretty cool and I'll watch that on YouTube From the slow mo guys or whoever it is And I'll watch a few videos and then get bored Because they're all the same and then not care Which is exactly what would happen if I owned the camera The punch in the stomach is pretty good The punch in the stomach. Have you seen the slow mo guys Stomach punch? I don't think so. It's Kind of amazing. Yeah. Of course Yeah. Yeah it's like actually Kind of awesome. That's pretty cool. Um Okay so what other Discussion topics do we have here? Cause honestly The Twitter, the Twitter questions are pretty weak Tonight. No offense guys. Okay so I'm just Gonna jump into The Bethesda announcement. So Bethesda Announced that they were going to announce An announcement I think we went one too far but That's- No no they announced That they were gonna- Oh no yeah you're right. They announced That they were going to announce something. Um It's not anything to do with other Schools online. It's not anything to do With Dishonored. If you look at their other IPs They're not gonna be doing anything with The Elder Scrolls other than the Elder Scrolls online For a while. So that's pretty much Off the table. Hold on. Do you think it has something to do With some LucasArts thing that they've acquired? I wonder. That's interesting. That's Quite different from what they Do. So? But that doesn't matter. It could mean that they do it. That's actually Really interesting. Um what a lot of people are Speculating and I would agree that is that it might be Another thing in the Fallout series. Cause it's about The right amount of time. Not that long ago They were hiring developers for a new game. Um it just kind of makes sense. It slots properly. So it kind of makes sense. So it's very possibly Fallout. But With everything that just happened with Star Wars That's really interesting. Disney does like They just said we're gonna outsource Crap. We're gonna outsource crap and when Disney Does that they outsource everything and they Get it done. It's not like a lot of IPs where They're like oh yeah we're not gonna develop this but Someone can pick it up and it dies. Disney actually tries to outsource things. So this actually might happen. And That would be really interesting. A Bethesda Star Wars thing. I still think that would be Actually potentially really Cool. Cause I kind of maintain that Fallout and Elder Scrolls are kind of the same Thing in a different setting. Oh yeah. What if it was in a Star Wars Setting. Fallout 3 and Elder Scrolls Are very similar. Yeah. That would be pretty Cool. And like they could change it up. They've changed it up. Dishonored is very Different. Compared to That would actually be like the coolest thing ever. I still think it's probably not. Khajiit Jedi. I don't want that. It's like they already have cat like Reflexes. So they'd be like That much better. You just love Khajiit. Predictively cat like. I just like cats. Khajiit. Whatever man. Which they came up with. Servals. Serval Jedi's. Yeah. For those of you who don't know. My Goal in life. Provided my wife doesn't figure out how To shut it down. Is to get a Serval. Which is an African Wildcat. That gives anywhere From 25 to about 40 pounds depending on The Serval itself. So if you haven't seen One before. They look A little something like I hope I'm switching to the right View here. So they look a little something Like this. So they are like a serious business Wildcat. Like not a house cat. I almost just said They have a weird form. Their body Looks kind of Chunky. There's another one. Yeah they have Kind of a strange build. They have Long legs. So they hunt small animals In tall grass. So let's See here. That's probably a Serval in kind of It's natural habitat. So their Ears are big like this so that they can hear So they actually hear their prey. They don't really rely on seeing it. And then they That also helps with heat dissipation. Form factors and heat dissipation. See we can't get away from PC talk No matter how hard we try. And then they have kind of A short tail. They're not climbers. So they don't use their tail for balance. The way That a lot of cats do. And then they have like long legs for jumping. So here. Oh yeah. This is a good one To give you an idea of how big a Serval is. So that's A grown human being and that's a Serval Next to Someone cuddling their Serval. So yeah. I would really like to have one of these. They are Not a domesticated cat. By any stretch of the imagination. But If you adopt them very young and there are Breeders here in Canada That are actually not that far away. You can tame them. Which is different from domestication. I guess no one knows what I was just laughing at. What were you laughing at? You struggling so hard to close that Window and then move it over to Twitter. Oh I know. It's like this stupid ball thing. It's not actually that easy to use. You can't use it at all. Not at all. You shouldn't be laughing. I was just laughing because it was funny. I knew how difficult it was. We should do the last news item of the week. We've done all of them. Nope. EA worst company of the year. We should do that so we can finish up news items of the week. So EA is the worst company of the year For the second time running. I don't buy it. Neither of us do. Like yeah EA kind of screws around a lot. We've ripped on them a lot on the stream. I don't think, probably more than anyone else, we've ripped on EA. Probably because there's that little stint. But they do not deserve that. To be completely frank. I mean what's the worst thing they can do? They can have like inconsistent servers. Or like a bad patch. Bad patches and like Or like release like oh Release day DLC. See like this is all horrible stuff. First world problems. But they're not BP oil. They're not BP oil. They're not Bank of America. They're not a private military company. They're not insurance companies. They're not oil companies. They're not prostitution rings. They're not like Actually bad things. So like yeah guys They're not healthcare. Remember it's worst American company. They're not like healthcare insurers That just bone you. Like there's actually Worse companies. But I think it's just a bunch of like Sorry about that. I think it's just like a bunch of Sort of butthurt internet people That vote on this. It's a whole bunch of Gamers. Like it makes sense. And like I understand why you guys are voting for EA. They probably Wronged you. But Come on. Bank of America Was on that list. Like there's some Really brutal companies That were on that list. And like companies that should have been on that list. But weren't. But weren't. And And like just in terms of The actual impact of what EA does If tomorrow EA did the worst thing they could possibly Do to every single one of their customers. It wouldn't Be anywhere near the impact of one tanker Spill. That could have been prevented by some kind of negligence Or whatever else. And anything EA Does. I don't think any of it's malicious. I think it's misguided and negligent. And they're Doing things that they should probably Read into their market more and figure out they shouldn't Do. Negligence. Again. Same thing. They're trying to grab money. Everyone tries to grab money. They're just Doing it in very poor ways and they need to fix that. But like it's not. But at least the way That they grab money isn't you Need gasoline to get to work. Therefore. Let's kill you. Double the price. And then Scrooge out on our like Big offshore Like oil drilling facilities so that They spill oil all in the ocean. Like that's A lot worse. Like actually bad Stuff for the world. That's like bad. So yeah. Yeah. Pretty brutal. So guys Big picture here. EA's not That bad. People are gonna Think that we're like EA sponsored at Some point. No. I don't think either of us Are really exactly Fans at this point. I was Kind of excited for SimCity. I played SimCity a lot when I Was a kid and I think the most recent one was a Massive let down. More than just their servers But in the gameplay elements as an Entirely as a whole altogether. There you go. We're not sponsored by EA. I would love to be. Yeah. If anyone from EA is watching. Don't feel for it. Let's get it done. We haven't talked about Syspa Yet either. Right. If you sponsor us EA we can help you Fix these bad launches that we've got. You could just, we'll work as consultants For you. 100%. To tell you All the things you're doing wrong that are Actually obvious. We can fix this. This is a fixable situation. It's a very fixable situation. So Syspa. Yay. So Syspa is sorta back. Pass behind closed doors. And actually like Actually back. Like done back. Pass behind closed doors. Google is like Fighting. Aggressively to stop it. Which is good. Because while Google is Realistically doing it. That's what they're basically doing. But I'm not going to do that on our livestream. Because I'm much more polite than that. I almost lifted one finger. It's the like slow But it was this one. It will happen. It might have happened. What was the trumpet one from Almighty something? You're not talking about Bruce Almighty are you? I saw the preview for That movie and it was all I needed to know. I did not see that movie. It looked ridiculous. But what's his name is God? Jim Carrey. No. He's not God. Oh no he's Bruce. I think God gives him powers for Like a few days or something. It doesn't matter. It looked so stupid. The premise was stupid. I don't even remember if I liked him. I even like Jim Carrey. He's awesome. He's like one of my Dirty little secrets. You know like Guilty pleasure. I like Jim Carrey. He's awesome. But that movie was not going to Be watchable for me. I know this. I was like yeah that's going to be a cable guy Moment for me and I'm not going to be able to sit through it. So no I couldn't do it. Wasn't there like a second one? Morgan Freeman. Oh Morgan Freeman is amazing. I love Morgan Freeman. Morgan Freeman was God. That's like enough of a reason to go watch it. It doesn't matter. Morgan Freeman is God. You could cast Like you could cast Tom Hanks as like You know I don't know Hercules. Actually you probably shouldn't. What? I still wouldn't see it even though I love Tom Hanks. If Tom Hanks was casted as Hercules you'd probably Watch that. I probably would. Just for the sheer spectacle of it. Wait why is Tom Hanks casted as Hercules? Can you imagine? What would Tom Hanks look like If he like worked out hardcore? Well that could be like old Hercules. Yeah old Hercules. Who's like all Decrepit now. And he's like funny and cheers people up. You know it's kind of crazy Going back and watching movies That these actors made when they were super young. Like looking at someone like Watching old Bond movies with Sean Connery. And then watching something like The Rock. And you're just like Wow. Like I've actually Because of movies and because you Can capture someone's likeness so well Sort of that long ago And it's been so long You can actually watch someone's entire Kind of life. And it's kind of bizarre. You see Tom Hanks In big. And then you see him today And you're like oh. Yeah. Yeah he was Like a super young guy at one point. Holy crap. It's just weird to realize That actually those people are actually People. And like Matthew Broderick. When he did that Ferris Bueller's day out Commercial for the Super Bowl. Now he's just kind of like A weird looking middle aged dude. No wonder his acting career Sort of disappeared. Sorry Matthew if you're watching. The hype around that coming back was insane. Everyone thought it was going to be I didn't enjoy the movie. Did not enjoy Ferris Bueller's day off. I don't even know if I've seen it. It's just stupid. Which is brutal. I haven't seen a lot of movies. But whatever. Did you see the hype around Ferris Bueller's days off too? Or whatever? No. That everyone thought Was going to come after that commercial and stuff? It was insane. They should have just done it. After they saw that hype they should have just been like We'll make tons of money. On like the worst movie ever. Because a sequel about a movie where The entire premise is just like Someone pretends to be sick and they're not. Well they would have just done He Pretends to Be Sick At his job. And it's the same thing. Like honestly they would have just done that. And like you know what? They could have made it Funny enough that people didn't hate it. And they could have made Tons of money. They should have just done it. Anyway. Everyone's sequels grab these We're supposed to be talking about CISPA And we're talking about bad movies that we hated. So pretty much what this will do is It'll allow the US government to Without your knowledge Force your Internet service provider or Someone who's providing you any kind of Service over the internet to provide your It's basically like a warrant for being Able to see your information that you don't even get To know about and no one can do anything about. And it's passed. It's like actually done. So Google's giving the US government The old screw off and Microsoft's apparently going along with it. Which is But they did with Skype too. They just kind of go Okay. Okay. They're just going along with the law. Google's...Microsoft doesn't really fight anyone. If you look into it. They're just kind of like Oh we'll just stay out of this. Pretty much every time. You know it's funny because Microsoft What made Windows great Was the flexibility. And let's face it Flexibility is just another word for piracy. Windows was the platform That just kind of supported Every app for Getting stuff. Doing things. And gaming. And as soon as like There's no reason why Microsoft couldn't Have just sort of Gone along with Continuing down that path. And then because they had to get Support because they were so dominant in terms of Market share. So no one could ignore them. And then once they got that big all of a sudden They started playing by the rules. And sort of cooperating with Guys who want to protect the content. And they got into the Content distribution business themselves. Which is probably a big part of it. But I have to wonder If they would be faltering the way that they are Now if they were still Supporting the same kind of Free exchange of ideas That they used to. And still allow...I mean even things like Things like the Media Center PC Would have taken off. If it was Piracy easy. Absolutely. I mean so many Huge things have only really become Mainstream because...why Did people like Android phones? Early ones weren't good. But they liked that they could do Whatever they wanted with the hardware. Which let's face it The thing people want to do With the hardware is Yes and no. Customizability does not actually Mean piracy. No. But a lot of the time For people it can. Someone who's not like a developer Who's actually able to But a lot of these developers are alive because X amount of people are buying it. That's true. Like people still Are going to buy it. It's not like every single Person you pass on the street is just like zero morals About actually owning licenses. Like a lot of piracy just does happen. But like on Android people develop Those apps because they were going to make Money. There was going to be tons Of piracy but there was enough there that They were going to make money. Like it happens. And to avoid Piracy and stuff just put ads in it. That happened a lot too. Sure. You know what? We won't charge you for the game. You're going to pirate it anyways. Just take it. There's going to be an ad there. That kind of bones your paying customers though. Or you mean like Cell phone games. I thought you meant product placements in AAA titles. I don't actually really This is a completely different topic but maybe I should just save it for later. Nope. We're sticking on CISPA. I guess that was pretty much my whole thing. Guys it's bad. I mean it's one of those things It's like the way that The US is moving backwards in terms of Legislation is sort of alarming. Like things like Someone brought this up. I read this somewhere. They're doing the exact same They're going in the exact same footsteps Rome did Right before they crashed. That's interesting. Really interesting. I mean Things like cell phone unlocking being Illegal. Why did that even happen? How is that even possible? Why does anyone even care? I mean The crazy thing Is the amount of money being spent On things that don't matter. It's like the amount of money That got spent preventing people from Using their phone on a different Network. Like between Lobbying and between people that The public is paying to sit around and Debate it and lawyers who are consulting Those people and all that stuff. It goes all the way down. It's sort of baffling. Did you hear about Ah crap. What's your name? I can't remember. All famous singers are sort of the same to me. But someone Refused a million dollars to sing At one of the Republican Conventions during the last election. And I'm just like if you have A million dollars to spend on having A singer perform at your rally Maybe you should worry about the debt Your country's in which is kind of insane. Maybe. Yeah. You know what? The US needs a third party That goes We want the exact same campaign budget As the other two and we're going to dump the entire Thing into actually something useful. So elect us because of that. And other than that we're just going to shut up and not say anything Because we can't afford it. People bring this up all the time. They should have the Candidates just like NASCAR drivers Wear all the logos for all the Companies that sponsor them. That would be great. It's actually really smart and that isn't like a Like a liberal democratic Like that's just no that's interesting. I actually just am interested Because I'm not going to say oh no you can't Sponsor them because that's just kind of Weird and under the table stuff will happen anyways You're not actually stopping anything. But I'm just interested into what Like who is sponsoring this guy? Is it NASCAR? That would be cool. Like I don't know it's just interesting. If anyone's wondering who our sponsors are it's Intel AMD, Nvidia, SteelSeries, Cooler Master Crap I'm sure I'm forgetting someone. We already said I'm trying to think of all the pre-rolls that I've put on things. Fractal Design Corsair There you go. I'm sure I'm missing someone. We're sorry. You're probably not Watching anyway. But Matthew Broderick probably is. Matthew Broderick sponsors us. Yeah Matthew Brodnyaz. With all of his money. All of his money. Which Explains why we're streaming out of our garage. Whoa! Whoa! Oh yeah the topic That I almost went on. I don't even mind product placement of things. As long as it's at least Moderately enough Subtle. Like unless it's Like Pepsi It's not really a big deal. Someone says not trying to defend BP Oil But technically they're not an American company. Of course They're not sorry British. And the vote was for the past year and the oil spill Happened in 2010. It doesn't make companies Sort of like less horrible. In general. But okay yes you're right BP But any oil company. You're really not going to the general Point. Fine let's talk Ex-Immobile Then. It doesn't matter. Pick Anyone. There's someone. And they're All much more destructive Than EA could ever be. And they all Do the same practices that BP Did and just because it happened to BP Doesn't mean that it's not going to happen to someone else. BP was just the unlucky group when they All cheap out on the exact same way as BP Does. Yeah Caleb says I don't know if this is correct. In fact I suspect it's Not. But 50% of American tax dollars Go to collection of the next year's taxes. It's like It is like 57% goes to military or something. I do believe that a significant Amount of it probably does get blown on that. But there you go. On collecting more tax dollars? We should do build. Yeah Builds of the week. So here I think I have the Continuing with the theme We have two build guides this week. Build logs. Build logs. Build logs of the week. So from the Linus You should probably explain what we're doing. From the Linus Tech Tips forum we feature Two builds every week And That's exactly what I was doing. Okay fine you do it cause I have to log in. We feature two build logs of The week. We do one that is Like Awesome but at least in range of the average Person and then we do one that's Like you kind of have To be nuts to be able to Go there. To be He spelt his login name wrong Sorry one second. You have to be kind of Nuts to be able to do it. So we have one that's like Really really awesome and would take Like time and planning and awesomeness And then we have one that's Time and planning and awesomeness and money And insanity. So yeah. Once Linus Can log in Which hopefully you don't get locked out here We will actually show you pictures Of project Snowflake There we go. Project Snowflake. Hopefully The pictures load fast enough. Scroll down. Pictures are there. Do do do Oh they're big. Yeah. They're all pretty big. This is an important step of Any water cooling build. The reason he has Paper towels. He actually probably doesn't have enough in there. Paper towels are Because you want to do leak testing Run in case there are any drips before You trust your water cooling. It's a good idea. Nice white fittings. Oh just wait till you get a bigger shot. It's amazing. He's just doing some close ups Of some good looking stuff here. He continues With the white and blue theme. This is his tube Running from his. Yeah. I don't know if you saw but Like oh. Very nice. Just looks really good. Very slick. Totally went for gold With the like not gold color But he just went for awesomeness with his color scheme Stuck with it. Got really really good parts That all worked together. It just. Man it looks good. Yeah that looks outstanding. Very beautiful machine. Interesting pump Choice. Yeah. All the cable runs that you can see Are nice and short. Right. And then he's got The long one but it's kind of hidden in the top so you don't Really see it. You mean the tubing runs. Yeah. What did I say? Cable runs. Ugh. Saying all the wrong stuff tonight. I'm tired. It's been a long week. And dyslexia. The entire house has been Sick which has just kind of sucked for me. And then slick Doesn't sleep because of Working on migrating The Linus Tech Tips forum at some point So great build. Project Snowflake. That one's just Kind of awesome. And then this one is just Absolutely ridiculous and will probably make you Envy because it's a TJ07. Yeah. My TJ07 build's still not Done and it's not this good either. Project Lazy. I've been waiting for More complete. He says he's still going to be doing Stuff to it and I believe him because he's nuts. But like This is amazing. That's beautiful. Look at the Look at the suspended fans up here. That's like MK2 murder box style. Yeah. Very very nice. So nice. Little custom panels. Like painted everything. He's got um. Wow. Yeah. I love round blocks. They're so unnecessary. But they look really nice. I know but they're so Unnecessary. But I just love them. You can't even like debate that. Those are gorgeous fittings. I don't think I've seen any case compressions In person. Those are really nice. They're not that common. Yeah. Those are nice. There's a big more wide out shot Somewhere. I think we missed it. There we go. Oh that's the one. Yeah. So there you go guy. Sorry this mouse really is super hard To control. Yeah. I don't blame it at all. It's really difficult. So there you go. That's awesome. That doesn't look lazy at all To be perfectly honest. No. I think he's got a lazy build because it's been taking him quite a while. But I think from beginning to end It probably took about at least the quarter of the amount of time It took for yours. Yeah. I know. Come on. My rig looks pretty nice too. I'm just bugging you. I know. My rig looks pretty. Okay. It's not as good as this. But it's not bad. It's kinda awesome. My rig? I know. Thank you. I was talking about project lazy. But your rig is awesome too. That's okay. Thank you. If you want to check out these guys' builds I will tweet them both out. But They are both going to be in Windspeed's sticky at the top of the Build Log section on the forum. So you can check those out later or you can Check them out now. Whatever you want to do. Those are our Build Logs of the week. Thank you for Making those Build Logs. Do we have any other topics? I guess we're like after party mode now. Yeah. I kinda have to pee. So I'm going to do that. Alright. Are you coming back? Yeah. Sure. Okay. It'll take a while if I drop my phone in the toilet or something. Okay. That would be really unfortunate. You should probably not do that. That's a one. Why don't I leave my phone with you? Okay. Thanks. Okay. Cool. Thanks bro. That shouldn't actually be a thing that you're worried about. You should talk about the Anetec one. Oh you didn't read it did you? Not really. No. Anyways. So if I have anything to talk about that isn't anything to do with anything that we've talked about so far. It's an awesome member of our forum. Watcher of the live stream. Follower of me on Twitter. Etc. Etc. Offered to send me a model M. And did so. And I'm ridiculously stoked for that to show up. It was supposed to show up and then they held it and said that the address was wrong. And then I called them and was like hey what's up? The address is definitely right. We get stuff shipped here all the time. What's going on? And they're like oh your name's Slick. And I was like yeah. Okay we don't have a phone number for you. Okay. Give them my phone number. Whatever. That conversation's done. Hang up. It's supposed to show up on Thursday. Doesn't show up. Okay. That's random. It's supposed to show up on Friday. Today. Doesn't show up. What? I get a call. Check my voicemail because I was in the middle of a shot. And they are holding it for a reason where the guy goes yeah we're holding it accustomed because literally like growling. No words were made out at all. Like fairly monotone growling. And then right when he's done explaining it goes you can contact us at phone number. Like perfectly done English. Before and after the description of what's wrong which is just growling. So I have no idea what's going on. But thanks UPS. I'm so excited for this keyword. Like for instance I was sitting right here benchmarking I'm trying to do the updated H220 thing because we finally have everything figured out for that so that should be coming out early next week by the way. I'm trying to do that and I hear a doorbell and I jump up out of my seat and run. Diesel comes in behind me. B-roll Linus come from other parts of the house and everyone funnels into the door because Linus is trying to beat me because he's trying to troll me. And what is this? You have something secret. Anyways so everyone's trying to beat me to the door and I have something behind my back but the only way you'll know what it is is to smell my finger. What? No. What? No! That's disgusting. That's actually disgusting. You're not going to win this. You know how to get out of these right? Yeah. Okay. Well I'm trying to hold something behind my back that has to stay level. But you can just turn your wrist. Yeah you can turn your wrist. I need a little bit of... No you go the other way. Other way. And then go thin and then go through. The problem is that you're strong enough that I would need some body momentum in order to make it happen and I'm trying to keep this level. Ah! Besides I can just trick you. Get clear. I love pickles. What did you think it was? I don't know. I don't want to smell your fingers. So our 900D arrived today. Oh yeah that's nice. One second I just want to finish my story real quick. So we all rushed to the door, opened the door super excited and it's FedEx not UPS. So we got a different shipment. That was awesome. I was pretty much the saddest person on the planet. I was hoping it was UPS too so that I could take the keyboard and hide it somewhere and tell him it was someone else. I would have actually paid the import duties just to see the look on his face. Or oh it would be great if I rejected it or something. Oh my goodness. Oh my god. I would have been so upset. If I beat you to the door when they come and I reject it what would you do? Probably just, I don't even I would just explode because I'm so excited for this keyboard. I wanted to model in for so long. Ah! I'm so stoked for this keyboard. Man I ran quick. You were a lot closer than I was and I beat you. It only but it took me a while to think of trolling you. So I didn't move for the door immediately. It wasn't something I was planning to do. Okay. Oh man. I was so upset. Anyways we have a 900D. It just showed up. I thought the box was like the actual box that the 900D comes in. I thought was the outside container because it's so beefy. With the box inside. Yeah, yeah. It's so big and it's so beefy and it has like the support things on the corners which aren't actually part of the box. Those are extra I think. But yeah. I know. But like it's still like it looked like an outer crate almost. Yeah. Like oops. Sorry about that. So that's kind of ridiculous and yeah we have an 900D. We can't do anything with it yet. Oh. B rolls here. He has to pick up that hiking backpack that we used for the Patriot video. Oh. Oh yeah Patriot's another sponsor we have. Should I talk, can I talk about the video? Sure. Okay so we're filming, how in depth can I go? Well we're going to be releasing it soon so I don't care. Okay. Okay. So we're filming a video for Patriot. It's another one of the Tech Cookie videos. So it's higher production quality. Has like storyline if you can call it that. And the idea is that Linus and I are nerding out and chilling on a couch. He's playing Super Nintendo. I'm reading on a tablet. And then we find this thing called the Adventurer's Wiki and decide to go on an adventure. So we go out into the forest and film us kind of going around doing whatever. And then um the idea is once we're done traveling to our destination we sit down, pull out some food do whatever and then talk about what we're going to do next. And kind of go into a daydream sequence about doing manly things because that's what the Adventurer's Wiki is a part of. And just go around like we threw an axe at stuff, we jumped over stuff, we climbed stuff like we do manly things but it's just a dream sequence. Then we snap out of it and decide we're just going to watch movies and then that's where the Patriot thing comes into play and allows us to actually see our content. So yeah, that'll come out. Apparently we're introducing the newest member of the Tech Tips group. Oh cool. Hello. This is our newest member of Linus Media Group. So he is the assistant to Diesel the Intern. It's delay, you probably don't want to look at it. Yeah, no this is him watching them watch us basically. It's like sort of creeptastic. So say hi to the viewers. Hi. I hope you guys like everything that you're watching so far. Wow. Just wow man. He was a big part of the video that I was just talking about, the Patriot video. Hopefully that turns out well. No it did turn out well. Have you seen the finished one yet? No I haven't. Have you even seen the cut together one? I saw like the first half of it. No. You haven't seen it yet? Oh it's awesome. I'll see what everyone else does. Yeah, okay. That's the thing about the guys who operate the camera, goodnight, is a lot of the time they actually don't get to see the fruit of their labors until like, yeah. It's gotta go through editing. Yeah. And Diesel's still our main editor-in-chief. Primo editing guy. Does he even have a job title? Does he? Do I? Do you? Do I? Do you? Well I call myself president and CEO. That's fine and dandy. Does he? I think he's assistant to Diesel the intern. So Diesel is intern. That's his job title. Yeah. That's not really a job title. And it's not what he actually is. Cause he doesn't actually fetch coffee. And he's not actually an intern. Yeah he's not actually an intern. Hmm. Fascinating. Do you have to be a like officially public company to be a CEO? No. You don't have to be public. But I think... Is it just corporation? Yeah you should be incorporated I think. So it's just incorporated makes it serious CEO. Well I guess you could make yourself the CEO of your own privately held company. Like individual business if you wanted to. You could make yourself whatever title you want. But I... I don't remember what the rules are. Like you know how there's directors and that's like an official thing. Not just like a placed title. Is CEO an official thing? Or is that a placed title? I think so. I don't remember anymore. It doesn't really matter. I looked all this stuff up back when... When you were starting it. Back when I was starting it. When it mattered. And that was like five months ago and by now my brain's just gone bluhh and flushed it away. Bluhh I don't care. Why aren't you having any pickles? They're delicious. Because I don't want to be rude and eat on the livestream. But they're so good. But I don't want to be rude and eat on the livestream. I don't think they care. I...I...Actually I'm pretty sure some of them do. But you know what? I worked all day today. I worked all week this week in spite of being sick. And... You know what? They probably worked all week this week too. I earned this pickle. They probably worked all week this week too. And I bet you some of them were sick while they were doing it. Probably more sick than you. There's at least one dude out there that's more sick and worked all week. And is watching this livestream and his throat hurts. And he can't eat anything but he's hungry. He's pretty upset that you're eating a pickle. Pretty upset that I'm eating a pickle? How many of our viewers think it's weird to just sit and eat pickles? Do you know that that's actually a thing people think is weird? Like people think that pickles are just for like putting on other stuff. No, I love pickles. They have to be the right ones. Yeah, like lots. Most pickles are gross. Yeah, yeah. There's like specific pickles that are really really good to just chop on. But most of them suck. Wow. I didn't even think that was that close. Wow, just wow. I said chop. Yeah, I don't know. Whatever, man. That wasn't even that close. Okay. You can't spin that top right. Alright, okay. Yeah, okay. So anyways, let's see if anyone on Twitter is upset. Hmm. It's David Isaacson's birthday today and he's watching our livestream. Happy birthday David Isaacson. Happy birthday indeed. That's a case. I don't really have anything else to talk about at this point. We're doing H220 next week. Oh yeah, that's something that's nice to kind of get done. It's 7790. Mmhmm. Hopefully. Hopefully. We should be able to. Yeah, I should have time. Oh no, we will because we actually have a card now. Yeah. We should kind of have a card. Yeah, we have an MSI card. Temporarily maybe have a card. Yeah, we temporarily have an MSI card. We were supposed to get a card from ASUS but it hasn't materialized yet so we'll be pretty happy to bring you sort of that once we have it. Someone brings up that it was actually the BP thing was caused by Halliburton's concrete so okay, fine, then Halliburton's a bad company. It doesn't matter. Someone, anyone who knew ahead of time that that was bad is worse than EA. I don't really eat pickles that often but I do the same with hot dog sausages. I think lots of people just eat hot dogs. In fact, it's like pretty common. Pickles you can just whip out of the fridge. Hot dogs and ketchup? Oh, cold hot dogs? Oh, I do cold hot dogs. Really? Oh yeah, they're precooked. It's not dangerous. I just don't think it would be very, like it tastes better when it's warm. Well, I mean it's not any more dangerous than any other hot dog. I'm convinced that hot dogs do kill you. They're terrible. Yeah. Simple Bob says, force Slick to eat the pickle. That is the worst advice I've ever heard. I mean, that's going to be illegal. Live stream where we talk about donating testicles to be Gabe Newell's apprentice in eating pickles. Um, Joao Joao Vesante Wayand Wow. John M. Wyland or Wyand. Okay, John. Uh, RAM capacity versus speed for gaming and working, please. And the I don't follow cars. Sorry. I couldn't possibly care. It's some other car that absolutely no one can afford. It probably looks really nice. It probably goes really fast and I'll probably never afford it. Yeah. Um. That's for RAM. Get 8 gigs of something that runs. Yeah. Unless you're doing sort of pro work like video editing or after effects. Or APU stuff. 3D rendering or uh, yeah, honestly on an AMD APU then, you know, 1600 megahertz 1866 megahertz is probably beneficial. But to give you some idea, um, you know, in Diesel's workstation, 1333 he has lots of RAM, 32 gigs but there isn't actually a benefit to higher speed memory for most things on the desktop anyway because the only thing that higher frequency does is gives you more bandwidth and especially on these multi-channel platforms like triple quad-channel platforms, there's lots of bandwidth for a single CPU anyway. So it's uh, it's not, it's not a big deal. Um. What happened to RAM prices someone asks. Every once in a while RAM prices go up. I think they're allocating more of the fab time to other stuff. It usually happens leading up into every summer as the manufacturers move over to more flash because people are going to buy SD cards so that they can take pictures and that kind of stuff. Companies decide that they want to make more than five cents per DIM. Yeah. Mind you, usually it isn't even that. Apparently we're cool and he loves pickles, says A-I-I-A on YouTube. Where do you get AMD branded coolers on AMD graphics cards like in the pictures on AMD's website? Oh sorry, I'm not even showing you guys that. Please. You can't really for the most part. Unless you're like a reviewer publication or someone like us then AMD can send it to you directly. Is there such thing as a cheap gaming PC? Yes. Um. Chomp chomp chomp. Alright. See no one cares about the pickle. Um. Now that it's summer issue you should ride your bike. Actually I'm selling my bike even if I don't end up getting the 4K monitor. The bike is uh, the bike is probably done for at this point so it's on Craigslist as we speak. That's one way to push your ad. Hunter says, yeah I know right? If anyone wants to buy a Suzuki SV 650S. 24,000 kilometers. Great condition. Silver. 2003. No crashes? Nah, several. No. Insignificant ones. Small ones. Small. Yeah I'm tired, I'm done. Wow. Wow. That was fantastic. What does this think? Apparently we missed part of project Snowflake. Someone freaked out at me. Apparently it's all my fault and I'm a terrible person. But we should go to page 4. Um. Okay. What is this? Oh yeah. Someone's running an eGPU using Thunderbolt and a MacBook Pro. Yes it's possible. It's just mostly kludgy solutions right now. It's very DIY compared to something like an external box that's actually designed for running external graphics cards over Thunderbolt. Let's go back to project Snowflake. Let's see this page 4. Uh. Page 4 project Snowflake. Here we go. Alright let's go ahead and make that big and switch to that. And page 4. Right. Our broken forum that doesn't work properly. Way to go slick. No. I'm not taking credit for that. So probably page 2 because you probably have more case per page. Oh god this is going to be interesting. Uh. Are you logged in? Yeah. Okay. So that's back panel. Hard drive. Just use page now. This works. Fine. And it doesn't do that crazy skipping thing that you did. That's a pretty artistic picture. Nice white fan girls. How many times have you seen that? Not often. I wonder if he painted them. They look really good. Oh those are. What? I thought he had different fans. I was pretty sure when I saw them before they were BitFenix fans. Remember? So those have been changed to Corsair SPs. They look good. Or maybe it's a different part of the build that has the. Wow. White fluid. Very nice. Okay a bunch of things changed. Gorgeous. What's going on there? Balling res with like marble white fluid. I wonder how long that. White tubing. I wonder how long that effect will last. Sometimes it likes to go away. Whoa. That looks so cool. That does look really good. He's also changed his pump now. He's changed quite a few things. 30 drops of ocean blue apparently. Very cool. Very similar picture. 80 ish drops. Okay so he increased. That's why it looks a little bit more intense. Right. White painted Mpower heat sinks now. Oh yeah. Cool. Yeah. Dip shop with full color. Okay cool. Alright there we get to see it without all of the paper towel all over it. Beautiful. Looks great in the SLI bridge as well. Looks so good. That's really really cool effect. He ditched the water cooling on RAM. Oh okay. Which I actually might have liked to see. Just because not because of anything to do with performance. Just because it's like, looks awesome. But he might have done that for cable runs or something. Why do I keep on saying cable runs? Tubing runs. That looks pretty cool. That's outstanding. Finished. The computer was off. That's why it's not swirling so much. Right. Some of those runs are nice. I can see that cable going right through there. I think part of what makes the swirling effect work for him is the fact that he has such a tall res. Yeah it's just huge. So that'll keep it from agitating so much that the effect just goes away. Especially up near the top. That's very cool. Yeah. There you go. See that? Cause you can see at the bottom it doesn't look good at all. But then up near the top of the res it gets that really cool looking effect. Yeah for sure. Wow that's really cool. Are the wires by the power supply going through individual holes? That's ridiculous. Did he make those? Marked them. Did he change his case? He was just switch 810 at the beginning? I think. Very cool build. He changed a lot of things. I think that's still switch 810. Yeah okay. He just must have modded out this part where the rad is. Cause he had the angular fan there before. Power supply looks great now. I don't think he had like the white plate and stuff on it before. Cause that's his 1200 eye still. Wow. Shouldn't drink that. Oh he's changing his liquid. I know he said before that the swirl effect was kind of going away after time. But it still looked really good cause remember when you were like you can't really tell at the bottom quite as much? That's where he said the swirl effect was going away. But it still looked really good. Right. But anyways he's looking at different fluid. With a white build like this where the only color realistically is coming from the fluid. Changing out your fluid. Like whatevs. That's cool I guess. Both of those look great. I like the blueberry. So do I. But they both look great. Wow that's cool. New liquid. Apparently he went with blueberry. Alright. Perfect. I don't think that looks as good even without the uh. No I liked the swirls. Yeah me too. It still looks really good. Huh. Cool. I'm happy we went back to that. I don't know how to change back to your thing. So there you go. Function one. Boop. There we go. See even when I say like I'm done and I'm like leaving. Everyone just stays and keeps watching. Thank you guys. We appreciate it. We do. Do we have any interesting like Linus Media Group stuff to talk about other than introducing our new employee? We have another one. Yeah we have an intern starting on Monday. We haven't come up with a nickname for him yet. But I'm thinking Engie. That's not bad. I came up with it just now. It might be Engie. Yeah. I think it's probably going to be Engie. There. It's Engie. So Engie is starting on Monday. Oh my goodness. Yeah. Engie is starting on Monday. That's cool. That's going to be cool. I have to build him a workstation. We're such a sausage fest. We're going to be five dudes. We're doing computer hardware videos. Right. What do you want? Do I have to be the one who represents our female viewers and comes and calls you out for the first time ever? If we get an applicant. No you know what? Every time I talk about how no females watch our show, one of them like tweets at me or messages me. If we ever get a female applicant. I have a call. I have no idea who this is. So I'm just going to answer it. You're live online as Tech Tips. Hello? Is it just dead? They may be stunned. Maybe they'll call back. Okay. If we ever get a female applicant for any position we've ever posted then there you go. I don't know what else to say. It's never happened. So female viewers aside which I do try and defend sometimes we have never had a female applicant. So they don't actually exist. Yeah we haven't. No. Actually. So that demographic actually doesn't exist. Who is this? I don't know. You're online as Tech Tips Live. Hello? Hello? Hello Linus? Bye. I have a weird feeling it's Mr. Wizard. What's his number? Let me figure this out. He's not responding but I actually think it's Mr. Wizard. For any amount of backlog Mr. Wizard is my admin helper sir. That goes on the forum and is the only reason that our Cludgey solution of a forum is even currently running. He's calling again. No no this is someone new. See he could be calling from his Caller you're live online as Tech Tips. Oh that didn't work. Unless that's another one. Oh boy. This is out of control now. Oh my goodness. What the heck? Okay so anyway this is the one. Oh no. Oh no. That's what it actually is. Yeah that's what happened. You're never going to stop getting phone calls. Yeah. That's the end of that. Oh god. And that was when you changed his number. Yeah you probably have to now. Alright well I'll have a new number sometime next week I guess but that was fun while it lasted. Come on like why? Why would you actually call? Not to like directly attack people that are possibly watching right now but why would you actually call? Like man and if you're going to call at least have your phone work. Yeah they wanted to be online as Tech Tips. I can't really blame them. But okay at least have your phone work for one and for two say something. Like you're the one person that got through. It's like it's like calling it's like Hi. Hi. Hi. Like say something if you're going to troll at least be successful. Yeah. At least actually troll us in some way. Instead of just spamming a phone. At least actually buy my bike. You're going to go to the ad buy it at least. Yeah. Man I really thought that was Mr. Wizard because he always says that. He's like oh I'm going to get drunk and call in and troll you guys. I'm like no you're not. You probably will actually at some point. I'm so annoyed that the stream died in the middle tonight. Because it means I'm going to have to use Windows Live Movie Maker to fix it again. Which is just so pathetic. And you know what this means? This means now on top of all the other like ritualistic things that we do before the stream to make sure things work like switching on and off the what is it even called? Attenuation on the mic. Attenuation on the mic so it actually sounds proper and like all that crap to just turn things off and on again to make sure they work. Now we have to like reset the router every single time we do a stream. You know what it's been flaking out a little bit over the last little while. So I guess it was just due. But still like We just need to switch to a DDWRT router and be done with it. We gave the last one we had speaking of Mr. Wizard to him so yeah that was like a compad, it was a Buffalo one. It had like uber powerful antennas and was DDWRT although we have one of the new Linksys EA6500's coming. Oh cool. So that's their AC router. I'm really excited to try it out with the HTC One because it does support wireless AC. Right. Which is awesome. And so does HTC One although I'm kind of skeptical about wireless AC on phones. Apparently Anantek saw up to 285 megabit real world. Wow. Throughput. Have they done S4 yet? I don't know. But S4 is AC as well using the same chipset so it'll probably be similar. Yeah. But that's outstanding. That's huge. Speaking of the HTC One and the Anantek review, go to Anantek because their review is outstanding and the phone is outstanding and it's absolutely awesome. So yes, go there, read the review. It's an awesome phone. And it pretty much negates any reason you might have for buying an S4 unless you really need that micro SD slot and you really plan to replace your battery at some point. Speaking of which, how's your S3 battery holding out? It came back. Did I talk to you about this? Did it come back to life? Like now it lasts again for like two days with very mild use. I don't use my phone that much. For like two days that's with like on my phone for about half an hour every night right as I go to bed and like texting throughout the day a little bit but not a ton. Very mild anything else. I probably didn't listen to music on it. Awesome. Where this is coming from is for a while there my phone was lasting for like two hours. I permanently had to walk around with battery packs. I was going through multiple battery packs like a day which was nuts. My brother had similar battery problems not to quite the same degree but very similar battery problems. He also has an S3. And at right around the same time they both just healed themselves. So. It's funny because Samsung released an update but wasn't it an update for like their weird S whatever software? Some random piece of software and they haven't released a new update for it. So I don't even know if that's it. I have no idea what happened but my phone became almost impossible to use for about a week or two. And like my battery app that I have monitoring and I still have it monitoring and that battery app has not been updated so it's not that. Would report it would be like yeah you have what was that screenshot I had? Yeah it was like 25% battery 5 minutes left. 5 minutes left. It's like K. Oh god that's not good. Speaking of the S4 though we're going to be hands on with it next Wednesday. Awesome that will be really cool. So weeks after everyone else but we should do a test where I have to hold both of my hands and try and figure out which one's which. I don't know if Samsung wants us to do that test. I wonder if I could. Did any buttons actually change position? I know the middle button thing is slightly different. Like I actually don't remember. Every so slightly different. Google bought WhatsApp or is buying WhatsApp? Yeah they're in negotiations to buy WhatsApp for a billion dollars. All the money. But for potential integration with their own services obviously there's a huge number of people that use WhatsApp. I mean obviously they don't expect to get the money back in terms of actual revenue because WhatsApp only even costs money on iOS. And so even if like one sixth of the people on Earth bought it for their iPhones they wouldn't even get back in terms of sheer revenue the amount that they spent on the acquisition but I mean whatevs. I'm sure they plan to I mean here's the thing. Would you want Google reading your SMS messages? Your telco already can. So there's that. It's not like it's like encrypted. It's not technically SMS though isn't it? Come on though. Same idea but like okay yeah. Basically it is. Because it's over whatever. No but this ties into the stance that Google was taking against CISPA where I'd rather they read it than some other people because I would rather Google tuned advertisements to me than someone actually actually stalks me. Right. So while no I do not want Google reading my text messages no I do not want them reading my emails no I do not want them reading anything else. At this point in time no matter how evil Google can be they're almost looking like the lesser of multiple evils. Because like it's just getting kind of brutal. Everyone's reading your email. Microsoft isn't but then Microsoft filters everything through servers in the states. Right. So it's like oh you're not but someone who's telling you to is. Right. I don't know. Privacy is becoming such a weird area as like every country ever just goes after everyone including their own citizens. You know what's kind of weird about Twitch? They run ads on your content before you're actually truly like a partner. Like I don't think YouTube runs ads on videos where you're not getting a cut of it do they? Don't think so. Speaking of being a Twitch partner we are launching our Twitch partnership very soon. Actually I heard from them today. So yeah. So the ads will support will support Linus Tech Tips at some point. So there you go. Yeah. But I don't know. I just I loaded up the Twitch stream and I saw an ad and I was like oh well that's cool. I mean that's good. But it says right under it this ad supports Linus Tech. Level up your Twitch experience. But it doesn't yet. So did they did it say that before? Because it's possible they've turned us on now. Like I don't know. Like we're actually like going. I have no idea. Twitch chat do you know? Did it say that before? Yeah. Did it say this ad directly sponsors Linus Tech? People are still posting your Skrx list ad. God. Oh my goodness. I should probably edit that out. Honestly though if I sell my bike out of this then that would be good. That would be hilarious. Someone's like yeah I just bought your bike. By the way can you sign it? Be like ahhh. Why are you going to be like that? Like can you put lipstick on and kiss right beside the signature? Oh come on. Can you take a picture of yourself too? Why are you going to be like that? Does anyone know? Everyone's saying add blog plus for the win. Thanks for that by the way. Okay we should set an actual date to actually do our Super Mario World stream. We've been promising that for months. Do you want to do it during the week or on a weekend? Whatever let's do it. Do you want to do it right now? Do you want to figure it out right now? Oh like figure out the actual time? Yeah. I didn't mean play the whole thing now. We have to sleep at some point. Yeah I was going to say I don't really know about that but What do you think weekday or weekend? Probably we're not going to get done on a weekday. Quite realistically. We're going to work until like 8 anyways. And then I'll continue and so will you realistically. Like a Saturday during a day. Is my wife going to let me get away with that though? Do you think the rest of Linus Media Group would just freak if you and I spent an entire work day playing Super Mario World? Yeah. I don't know how okay that would be. Can little baby man be offloaded to grandparents? That's actually not a bad idea but if that was to happen Maybe Mrs. Wife can take a day? Go hang out with some friends or do something? Well my sister in law's wedding's coming up. So she can do that? Well no I have to be there smart guy. No she can help prep for that. I meant like Yeah but then Oh and then you're saying I drop the baby with the grandparents and then we do our super So she takes a day, baby goes off, hangs out with the grandparents How long do you think it will take us to beat it? I don't know. It's been so long. Oh come on. Come on. Wow. Wow. Just wow. It's the after party. Those jokes they gotta come out. Anyways How long do you think it would take us to complete the game? Cause I can burn through probably everything up to Chocolate Island like first try maybe second try. Like I can get through most of that stuff pretty quick. Some of the stuff is kinda tricky. I don't forget if I don't remember if it's the Cheese Bridge or one of the other ones where it's like I can never remember where that stupid secret is to get down to the Star Road from the bridge. Are we doing like what to what point are we getting? Well we have to go 96. Oh okay. Yeah. Oh yeah. So and I mean the special levels are ridiculous. I don't remember where everything is. It's half luck. So the special levels are the ones at the center of the Star Road. No like I know but like I mean within levels and stuff it's been a really long time. Oh I can remind you though. I did it a year or two ago. Oh I haven't done it since I was a kid. Yeah no I have actually done it not that long ago. It's actually been like it's been a really long time since I've played a Mario game. I love playing old school games but I've been trying to go back and play old school games that I haven't played yet. So stuff like Mario is not coming up. I haven't played Mario since I was a kid. So I'm probably going to suck which will be kind of entertaining anyways. You'll probably be okay. You know what I found is actually having gone so many years without playing a Mario game I actually still had pretty much all my skills. And it came back like really fast. You know what might actually be more fun? Like original Super Mario Brothers. Because that would be infuriating. Especially so difficult. Yeah it gets really tough towards the end. Although at least Bowser's always like what would it be? So wait till he jumps. So jump get him to jump. Jump over the fireball. Go under him and then kill him every time. My favorite thing is the picture that is like this is the exact key combination you need to beat the entire game. Which one is it? There's a picture online that's like hold arrow press this button, press this button, press this button, hold arrow press this button. And it goes through the entire thing it's about like yay long with like tiny little icons. But it's like if you type in this key combination and wait for load screens in between you will beat the entire game. Really? I didn't even know that. Because those crazy speed runners they like have it down to like a rhythm. Right. It's nuts. Yeah well we won't be doing any kind of speed run. So there you go. So one in Twitch chat just says Linus what's your opinion on the Nintendo 64? You know what I never had one. Really? Although um although Mario Kart 64 is one of my favorite all time games. It's outstanding. I'm not very good at it but I love that game. I actually spent like five bucks to get it in the Wii Marketplace. Nice. Haven't we played it? Yeah we did one day. One time. We should play. I'm terrible. My wife's not bad. And besides I don't mind winning all the time so it's fun. I don't care if you suck. If you want we can play some FPS. I was just going to say let's go play Battlefield again or something. Or like StarCraft. People are upset I never had an N64. It's okay because my best friend had an N64 and I'd always go over to his house with his babysitter after school. So I played a lot of N64. Played a ton of Perfect Dark. Played a ton of Gold My. Played a ton of Mario Kart. Played a ton of that. Oh what was that terrible? I think it was NHL 2007 where it was like everything was like multi colored and it was like that down at ice level view and it was just an absolute piece of crap. Played a lot of that because my friend really liked playing hockey games. Laptop Gun. Perfect Dark. Coolest thing ever. Anyways I didn't have an original Nintendo but one of my buddies did. And one of my buddies had an... and they probably didn't even hear that. And one of my buddies had like Satellite or whatever at the time that I didn't have so he could watch Pokemon. So I go to his house all the time to play Nintendo and watch Pokemon. Nice. It was awesome. He was okay I guess but Nintendo and Pokemon. That's what's up. Someone just suggested that we play Slender, a first person horror game. You know I think the whole horror game streaming on YouTube thing has been done to death. And not interested at all because it's so dumb. And Slender is not scary. Like what the heck guys. You know what? We should totally do like a PewDiePie parody. AHHHH!!! AHHHH!!! You didn't fall off your chair. Dude if you're watching I'm sorry but that's basically what you look like. I know right. I have a laptop that I actually don't want to destroy in my lap. True that. That guy is ballin'. Like ridiculous. Like yeah. Headphone users are unhappy at the moment. But like honestly, Slender is not scary. Play it or watch a video. What? Like no. That game is not scary at all. Ohhh. I'm sorry you guys. Everyone's unhappy. I thought we turned attenuation on. Yeah it's on. I guess it didn't work. I think that might have been a little bit. Well like attenuation will keep it from peaking but it's still ridiculously loud. Yeah I guess. My bad. Yeah. I mean honestly PewDiePie is thing. Like People are saying it's like why. Okay. PewDiePie is freaking out is cheesy. Might be true but it's cheesy. It's not true. I really don't think it is. At all. I just I'm talking more about I don't care about whatever PewDiePie okay whatever. Slender that's what I'm actually talking about. Slender is not a scary game. What is a scary game to you? Linus what is your opinion on pubes asks one of the viewers in Twitch chat. I think they're curly. These are technically they're kind of curly. Or kinky. Or yeah. No I actually mean like kinked. Because the female version is kinked and the male version is curly. It's for friction reduction. I'm actually not even joking. I just didn't think we were going to get into this. Wow. I don't know. I haven't really played any that have legitimately scared me because they're mostly fairly obvious but there's some. I enjoy Fear. Fear is pretty good. The little girl when you come down the ladder and she's right there like that's okay that's cool. Slender is not. No. The thing that made Fear scary was that you were never quite you know how some scary games will have scary cutscenes but it's just a cutscene. Nothing can hurt you in a cutscene. In Fear some of the freaking cutscenes can kill you. It's not even like quick time event. Press the button to not die. It's like figure out what to do now. While everything is just messed up to not die. And you still might die. But it might be okay. Or it might not. You might actually be dead. I don't know. The uncertainty is what made it scary to me. Definitely. Alan Wake. I might be naming the wrong game. I know Alan Wake is a horror game. I might be naming the wrong game though. Dead Space I haven't played. Me neither. I heard Dead Space I is what you should play if you want to play Dead Space. Not necessarily Dead Space II or III. But I haven't played any of them. And these are just rumors so I don't know. But I've heard they're not very good. Power Shock Infinite had a scare moment? Did it? I definitely played the entire game and was probably as thorough as possible. I don't remember there being a scare moment. Someone asks how my pickle is. My pickle is wonderful. Thank you. Yeah. I don't know. I've also never understood the point of scary games though. Michael asks if we're not running the Intel ad today. The Snowboard promo is over. We're going to have a new Intel promo running sometime in the next little bit here. But we haven't got it going yet. Dead Space is startling. Okay. That is a difference. This is a great tweet. Linus you scared the living Japanese out of me. Dat scream yo. The guy's name is Surikizu. To scare the Japanese out of someone named Surikizu is sort of impressive. Good job. Very effective. Mario Kart is a rip off of the older Wacky Wheels. Well whatever. It's a good rip off. And Yoshi's a boss. If Mario Kart is a rip off of older Wacky Wheels then every single Kart game ever and there's tons are all a rip off of everything else as well. You know what's a great game? Rock and Roll Racing. Have you ever played it? It's like a top down racing game for SNES. With like rockets and like it's kind of like Twisted Metal was like a top down racing game. It's kind of awesome. That's pretty cool. And it's just super super fun and it has like great music. Like Rock and Roll music. That's one thing. Another thing about Blood Dragon is just epic epic music. A while ago on some other stream I brought up that I had never played the Mega Man series. I got a little bit of flack for that. I never had the money to acquire Mega Man games. I'm sorry. Since then I have gone out. I have gotten a PS2 Slim, a controller, a memory card all that kind of stuff and a disc that is like the 10 year anniversary or something. Whatever year anniversary of Mega Man. And it has Mega Man 1 through 8 and 2 non-North American releases on it. And I have started playing through them. Those games are difficult but they're so much fun. That's one thing that's kind of actually gone away. Is the games that are just insanely difficult. Like they pop up every once in a while in major releases. But insanely difficult. Pretty short but long. Because it's like you're gonna die. Probably a lot. Right. Like... Well there was that impossible Mario or whatever you sent me the other day. Oh my goodness. I've actually played that before. So it's basically a Mario clone. Unfair. Unfair Mario. Where just like you'll make a jump but then that section of the floor right there is the only one that actually doesn't just disappear when you land on it. So it's not actually an exercise in playing the game. It's an exercise in memorizing the right spaces to go. And the only way to make it through is sheer trial and error. So a bunch of people posted Hotline Miami. Hotline Miami is an amazing game. It can be disturbing. So if you're not so into disturbing games maybe don't play it. Because certain elements of Hotline Miami are kind of messed up. I don't want to give any spoilers. So don't go into it. But like if you want like really fast if you're okay with gore and disturbing things because there's lots of it even though it's mostly like 8-bit-ish style. Not actually 8-bit but like old school graphics not 8-bit. It's kind of just it's a really good game. The play style is awesome. It's super fast paced. When you die it's just like bam you're back. But like incredibly fast. Bam you're back. But it's also insanely hard at the same time. So you're expected to die like a whole bunch of times getting through a single level. Oregon Trail. Yay or nay? Oregon? Yeah. There's Oregon Trail now too. Like organs? Like inside people? Like zombie version of Oregon Trail. No way. Yeah. It's on Steam and it got green lighted. Oregon Trail and it's all like zombies and stuff. Did you ever play Odell Lake? No but I did play Oregon Trail. Oh. And I liked it back in the day. Played it at school. Did you play Yukon Trail? I think so. Did you play Dino Park Tycoon? No. Oh you didn't play it? Do you know Dino Park Tycoon? I've heard of it yeah. Oh so amazing. And Dino Park Tycoon was just random. Like you could do exactly the same thing every time at your park and sometimes lots of people would come to your park and other times they just wouldn't. Like it wasn't actually like you know if you built a good park people would come to it. It was just like if you were unlucky people would come to your park and then you could build it up really good. It's just so stupid. That's so messed up. I loved Dino Park Tycoon. It came on two floppy disks. Nice. You know what I really liked was that era where the game would come out on floppy disks and it was like pretty good. And then they'd have like the exact same thing CD. Yeah I know right. You know what? TIE Fighter the CD version had a great soundtrack. Sometimes they have like increased quality or whatever. My five floppy disk version did not. Yeah exactly. And TIE Fighter I think had like some cinematics and stuff on the CD version. Yeah sometimes it did add things. Sometimes it was just a direct copy. I know like yeah I'm gonna come up. I'm gonna forget proper references. But it was usually around where games were about five or six floppy disks. It was when CD games started becoming really popular. That was really cool. Someone needs to hardcore like ask LucasArts now that they apparently don't give two craps anymore. Ask Disney rather since LucasArts doesn't exist anymore. If they can just remake TIE Fighter with modern graphics. Honestly there's so many things Disney should do with that franchise. I know. Just remake TIE Fighter. Like no one's gonna be upset that you just revamped graphics and really re-released the game. Like it doesn't matter. I have both. I have Star... I have two of the Star Fox games. You know I didn't enjoy Star Fox. Or Star Fox 64. Didn't do anything for me. I was a lot more into Star Fox 64. But Just didn't do it. I liked it. But I think there were games of similar style that were higher caliber in my opinion. I can see where it's a great game. But I would rather play other games if I want that type of experience. But I did really like Star Fox 64. Didn't do it for me. Just eh. Okay. Well. Good night everyone. This is probably our longest livestream ever. Yeah I'm like super super tired and I need to go to sleep. Yeah. Somebody just said Rogue Squadron. Like there was games that I personally would have rather played. But I played Star Fox 64 and it was amazing. Good night everyone. I'm going to bed. Are you going to bed? Are you coming to bed? What the thing to say is that? Was that too far? Eww. Turn it off. I think that's the most forward I've ever been.