 Both Zen and Vega at this point are pretty old news by computer industry standards But there are a couple of things that make this combination product more interesting than you might expect Number one is the incredible value proposition for budget gaming and number two is the unexpectedly high performance of these entry-level CPUs once you add a discrete graphics card Today's video was brought to you by TunnelBear. TunnelBear thinks the internet is better when everyone can openly access the same content So try TunnelBear for free at tunnelbear.com LTT Intro music Let's begin by jumping right into gaming performance on Ryzen G's integrated graphics where unsurprisingly It's Vega GPU Stomped all over Intel's best efforts to build a competitive on chip graphics processor Then fell short of even a GTX 1050 Ti putting it pretty far down the pecking order compared to Discrete graphics cards, so we tested at 1080p medium details But based on our results, it's more likely that you would opt for 720p high or 1080p low Though to be clear we are not complaining about this Budget gamers would have given their left nut for 720p high 12 years ago when AMD first began work on the combination CPU GPU paradigm Moving on to productivity we get very similar results to the same clocked older generation Ryzen chips With the new G series actually pulling off some better results in tests like multi-threaded Cinebench and V-Ray's CPU benchmark and then leaving Intel's onboard graphics standing on the starting line in the GPU version Now we also saw similar or better scores compared to old Ryzen in Asus real bench ignoring the open CL results since they obviously favor discrete graphics cards and Blender CPU test continues the trend with team blue getting smashed and the GPU test once again showing us that 8 and 12 CUs respectively aren't ideal for heavy lifting So what have we got here then? We've got a couple of really nice upgrades the 2200g Obsolete basically the entire existing Ryzen 3 lineup and Remember you can just plunk this into any existing Ryzen compatible motherboard with at most a BIOS update and the 2400g ends up being a toss-up with the more expensive 1600x so what you get is on board graphics and in some cases better performance due to the 4 plus 0 CCX design and second generation precision boost But what you give up is some level 3 cache and a couple of cores for heavy multi-threaded workloads now these are Budget products so AMD cost it down the IHS to a traditional thermal paste this time around though that shouldn't be a big deal at this package power and Ryzen runs pretty cool anyway and While we've never had great results with Ryzen overclocking today's chips were particularly unimpressive Both of them managed only 3.85 gigahertz on all cores Which is more than the precision boost frequency of the 2200g, but actually less than the 2400g to be clear that's on all cores So it's still a net gain for some workloads and the 2400g managed it at a lower voltage But we just need to make sure that you're going into your purchase here with realistic expectations for a single Benjamin and change Thermals were a little higher than usual for Ryzen thanks to the higher default voltages and probably the lesser thermal compound But power consumption was basically spot-on only a few watts different than the same clocked og Ryzen CPUs our Intel chips it should be noted managed lower idle draw Alright, so let's talk upgrade path now a lot of people go out and buy a CPU like this with integrated graphics With the intention of only using those temporarily so what is gaming like once you throw in a dedicated graphics card? actually Fine, so we ran our Ryzen CPUs with a 1050 Ti in the earlier testing and then reran our G series with it as well and we got similar if Slightly lower results across the board so it looks then like AMD's decision to split the PCI Express lanes Between the integrated Vega core and the PCIe 16x slot giving only eight lanes for each Didn't actually hurt them too badly so at 99 and 169 respectively the Ryzen 3 2200 G and Ryzen 5 2400 G are both better values than their predecessors and Integrated Vega graphics with some help from native support for higher speed 2933 dual channel DDR4 memory gives them much better performance and Maybe even more importantly compatibility in GPU intensive tasks than anything that Intel can muster So Intel who opted not to cede us the price competitive processors saying we'd have to go buy them if we wanted to compare Gee, I wonder why holds the performance crown for CPU only tasks But as for living room PC enthusiasts or budget eSports gamers Y'all might have just found your next processor And if you run a small business on the side y'all might have just found your next cloud-based accounting solution BAM Freshbooks is the simple way to be more productive more organized and to get paid faster You can create and send professional looking invoices in less than 30 seconds set up online payments with just a couple of clicks And get paid up to four days faster They've got fully featured mobile apps so you can track your hours track your expenses You can do all this stuff with you on the go And they've got a really cool feature that allows you to see When your client has seen your invoice for the first time to put an end to the back and forth of oh I didn't get it. 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