 things actually working I know Linus is not here he's off doing something if you saw my tweet he actually did show up in the room sat down we filmed the intro for YouTube and then he left again so like I tried I almost had him here anyways we just decided to just go he's gonna be back so he's coming at some point anyways we've got cool topics for you obviously the Windows 10 conference happened so we'll be talking about that a ton it probably won't be as ridiculous as the Facebook bought Oculus thing but we'll be talking about it quite a bit the GTX 960 has officially launched as anyone who has a YouTube account is sure to have noticed that every single person ever released a GTX 960 video also Nintendo has announced the end of Club Nintendo but it's all not bad news so we'll talk about that later as well get the good news out there and the GTX 970 may not be able to utilize its 4 gigabytes of VRAM entirely hmm talk about that later on as well roll the intro oh we're the sponsors again today oh yay Linda calm our favorite monster truck simulation online it's not what they do no for learning online learning hence the book videos and stuff yeah well that the book makes less sense in that context but yes well Linda read the book and then she told you through the videos I actually think a lot of the things that you learn on Linda calm have no application where you would really want to learn them for like would you learn Photoshop from a book you could well what you wouldn't learn from a book is how to save money on your razors and other bathroom supplies you could you you could but no there could be like a saving money on razors and bathroom surprise supplies for dummies no one wants to read the book on saving money on bathroom surprise sorry I just had to review something whenever I do a particularly negative video about a product I tend to want to cross all my t's and dot all my i's because the last thing I need is a lawsuit for defamation or like anything like that yeah yeah that's right it's different from a refamation which is taking people who aren't famous and making them famous again like Carrie Fisher anyway let's go ahead and maybe start start this show so we're gonna kick off with the one thing in the show that I actually didn't look into at all so you're on your own for this one backed by Nvidia ketopsis brings Microsoft's Illumeroom vision to life so you knew about Illumeroom wow I can totally talk when I'm sick you know the Illumeroom concept right where there's the TV screen and then the Illumeroom projector which would be behind you essentially extends the TV screen to try and make it more immersive well they actually kind of did it and it's called whatever it's called how is the name of it not in here? Emersis there we go the name of it's not in the title nice trying to post anyways it happens to be an expected price of $2,500 and they would need developers to step behind it actually make stuff for this to work so that's a really ugly combination with people like I can't remember the name of it right now but SteelSeries thing the eye tracker Toby Toby yeah well no it's different when it's sold by SteelSeries yeah whatever but it's the Toby eye tracker yeah but yeah anyways whatever that thing has some amounts of trouble with adoption I think the main game that's there really standing behind it is an indie game that they're probably paying to stand behind it or maybe not or or maybe not but like there's there's one of the problems with all these different things coming out Oculus gear VR every other VR solution ever this thing eye tracking hand tracking stuff is even something we're going to talk about later later HoloLens is you need developers to develop things for these things and when it's $2,500 and you need a PC to be set up in your living room not just a console and you need a living room where you can have a projector behind the couch like there's a lot of variables here and I don't see the install base being huge and I think that being it's probably gonna be a problem for developers you are like Nostradamus like this thing's expensive for a functionality that no one really asked for like it's probably adoption won't be great it's a cool idea it's there's really no more it's a limer room like it's you can watch the videos you can see that it can fold and go into a box and you can carry it around hooray but it's it's a limer room which is which is cool but yeah I wouldn't spend $2,500 speaking of things that are cool with no application as far as I can tell artificial intelligence helps Mario play his own game I'm gonna go ahead and post this in the twitch chat here so he has learned certain things like jumping on a goomba will definitely kill it and stuff like that he's made decisions based on his learning he's decided how to get through different levels and stuff he's able to figure out very efficient ways to do things yeah he can calculate you know how many moves something will require yeah he apparently has moods which from looking from reading a little bit further into the article seems to be mostly just pre-programmed logic trees as opposed to a true a true AI like everything hooray it's cool but like that yeah I don't know it's also it's been done before it's pre-programmed logic arrays would it is able to kind of add to a little bit but like it knows the past that it should go down and then it's just filling a database of information of results of actions essentially which yes of course that's how things learn but it's just it's it's not crazy advanced we not only have more advanced AI projects out there but this has also been done before I think it's just the most advanced AI Mario because why so I don't know it's kind of cool it's a fun project speaking of speaking of Mario we're gonna we're gonna try and move pretty quick here guys because we don't want to spend a fair bit of time on the Windows 10 you know not as much time as they spent mind you but not two hours and 20 minutes yeah so let's go ahead so Nintendo Club Nintendo to be discontinued worldwide Wow them ads what is going on here look at this the ad is it's like half of its here half of its oh it's it's on each side yeah doesn't resize Nintendo insider comm if your site admin is watching we have a sponsor Squarespace they have like they have like stuff that will make it so this won't happen so anyway okay fine whatever frameworks and whatnot anyways Nintendo is shutting down they'll be discontinuing the service on the 30th of September or end of June in North America and 30 September in the EU they've been running it for about six years it is going to be replaced by a new program a new loyalty program yes the current one honestly is super badass Club Nintendo is great like you get coins from buying games which like okay whatever but then those coins kind of last for a really long time then you can spend them on real-world physical items or digital games and if you buy a real world physical item the shipping is totally free it's actually pretty cool um maybe it's too expensive it might be too expensive it might be just like some of the problems that they've been having is the merchandise for it coming up with new things right a lot of times there isn't really a new thing and the previous thing sold out so it's just like what do I use these coins for I kind of want to save for a physical item that is exclusive instead of just buying this thing that I could get off the Wii U store for not much money anyways right so a lot of people just sit there hoarding their coins forever waiting for something new to come out then it sells out too quickly anyways so they don't get it so it can be frustrating it's a cool program but it can be a frustrating program so I think they're gonna try hopefully replace it with something a little bit more elegant and I guess this gives them an opportunity to eliminate the coin hoarding by getting people reset unless they offer people like I think they've done resets in the past but then that's always ugly as well yeah I mean the optics of that are just kind of terrible yes like so you're resetting because you planned it poorly yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so I don't know not the end of the world there if you are a Club Nintendo guy and you have a bunch of coins read up more on it they have tons of information on like when the last date to get coins from games is when the last date to redeem things are when the last date to buy things is if they're not they're gonna be adding more things to it because I think I think they're adding more physical items like rapid fire just before the ends you can dump all your coins so but I'm not entirely sure about that go read up on it if you care essentially dang it you went for so long that my segway is not gonna necessarily work that well but you said it wasn't the end of the world and I was gonna say speaking of things that could be the end of the world this service this is this is absolutely fantastic and oh whoever did our notes on this one didn't actually manage to put the name of the service in the notes and I've forgotten what it is second time invisible girlfriend create your own girlfriend or boyfriend there's also invisible boyfriend equal opportunity sort of service here so so alright so this is the first app that promises to be your virtual partner but these apps take a bit of a unique approach to it in that they actually pair you with someone with with a with a paid virtual girlfriend or boyfriend that will send you messages and selfies and voicemails and even handwritten notes yeah so um oh apparently the selfies are gonna be stock photos but that yeah doesn't actually sound right from what I was reading them you know what the best thing is though have you read the text message conversation yeah here let me just so good oh man it was lovely it's the text message covers oh you're looking for something else I'm looking for the text message conversation in the line of sec tips oh it's in the thread yeah okay awesome this is supposed to oh crap we haven't said who's posted things okay so good bites for the Illuma room thing so it is enough for Mario AI ah Ming for this thing tanks layer X for Nintendo virtual whatever club thing virtual whatever club sorry I was thinking of that's what I'm doing a virtual boy oh things that are gone yes yes yes alright so here we go here we go so the the thread online is tech tips actually has a little bit more information so the app is only available in private beta and US and Canada but the creators are hoping to raise funds so they expand can expand to other parts of the world like countries where it is a crime to be gay and people might have a need for a fake heterosexual relationship that is actually a very compelling yeah use for an application like this so this guy messages were better maybe Clark Kent so so here's an example of some text some text messages hey Carissa this is Clark how are you OMG why didn't you text me last night where were you sorry I left my phone at work let me make it up to you I don't believe you I was in such a rush when I left yesterday I was charging it and forgot all about it I'm sorry really the stupidest thing about this is as like not sort of great as those messages are kind of convincing yes I could imagine having that conversation what I kind of love about it too though is that in their example he goes I miss you I've been working so much lately I need a vacation want to come with me so in that use case where like you need to try to have a heterosexual relationship because of laws and blah blah blah blah it should be like yeah definitely let's go instead it's like what have you been working on your example give a better example than that God wow so like yes it's very bad at responding so anyway the personalized text maybe they're gonna work on making them better but basically they they they have pay people who are sending texts and voicemails and handwritten notes and it's $25 a month and I think that includes what was it two handwritten notes 25 texts or something along those lines I can't remember what exactly the model is I I I I I don't know what to say like I feel like for someone somewhere this is something that they would really like to have but I've got a wonder like would they not be better off just kind of making a friend online that shares a common interest on like Steam versus trying to use a service like this to have them be a girlfriend or a boyfriend I have to imagine that considering how fake it feels that you'd have to kind of know so it I feel like it would be more of an external thing like I don't know how many of course there's going to be some of course there's probably gonna be a lot but I don't know how many use cases that I understand I guess as much where someone would do it as like a partnership thing but I know a lot of use cases that I understand a lot more or someone might want to do it as an external thing look this is my person like okay I'm gonna try and explain what you're saying in a way that might actually be clear um so what do you means is like if you're showing off versus external relationship yeah like like if the if the idea is not that you're doing it for your own satisfaction but you're doing it to like prove to grandma that you yeah you know are not a shit if you're a girl and your family's like oh my goodness why haven't you started a relationship we want babies yeah you're like well I did here I'm you know there's this Luke LeFrenier guy that I'm texting a lot and he sends me selfies of himself in the shower wait sorry I'm thinking of my phone whoa yeah we weren't supposed to talk about that snapchat's a hell of a thing anyways speaking of things we shouldn't talk about or should talk about you're right prweb.com has an article posted by clockalokoa.com I tried do you want to post this one in the chat yes got it but these are the most used passwords of 2014 if your password is on this list change it now and actually the password that you thought was my password is not my password no I didn't do that oh okay I know I saw that written there somewhere but that wasn't from me all right so there's a couple other tips don't use your favorite sport don't use your favorite team don't use your birthday or especially just your birth year information that is really not that hard to find these days in fact you know I I really feel like all this digital security stuff gets a lot of attention whereas it's really the more traditional security systems that that are bothering me lately like I had I had my bank call about something and yes they called my phone number which is a form of authentic a thin authentic a thin authentication but the only security question they asked me was my birthdate that's not even close to enough which is not good enough and you know what the funny thing about it too though is this is one that really makes me mad is when the security questions on a website okay I'm going back to digital now yeah but when they're fixed yeah yeah it's like I don't know any of these things I think and like I've gotten riled for a few things on like the Linus Tech Tips forum but I'm not super worried about like a forum like a bank is more if I'm ever talking about like login form security and all this kind of stuff I'm talking more about like a bank or your email not your forum login but yeah if you guys are storing like sensitive personal information in your line is tech don't form it please don't like it's not like it's not like it's not encrypted it's not like we don't have security but like we do that's just idiotic anyways um we're not talking like having your birthday in your profile we're talking like if you have like images in your image upload account or something like that that are like of your passport like just be smart online that's all I'm asking but yeah when like a bank has fixed security questions yeah or like I've seen banks start implementing a like a three-stage thing mm-hmm you put in your login name it loads another page you identify an image it loads another page you put in a password it loads you into the bank which is interesting except that the amount of times that they challenge you with the image is near zero like why did you even implement that security step it does nothing right I think oh I think it's more likely to challenge you if you're on an IP that's not your usual IP it is so but it's still extremely low right like my bank does it and I checked while I was in Vegas which is scary but I did it in a fairly safe way and it didn't challenge me with a picture change well people people are the biggest obstacle because mine used to do it every time I was on an unfamiliar connection it's and then probably people complained because it doesn't do it anymore so okay anyway let's get let's get back to let's get back to this topic so here we go one two three four five six unchanged from 2013 rock on one two three four five six you glorious bastard number two password same position as last year one two three four five has really climbed the range of 17 positions one two three four five six seven eight has fallen from third to fourth so if you thought you were being more secure by going from five digits to eight digits you were but not by much because when we're talking brute force attacks and the millions of attempts they can do per second the difference between two and three when it goes through this list not gonna be a whole lot yeah I was gonna say because most brute forces will start with a pre dictionary first anyways yeah so QWERTY one two three four five six seven eight nine zero does provide an almost immaterial security one two three four is apparently more secure than one two three four five six seven eight nine zero if it's using a dictionary based attack as opposed to just a sequential attack so there's that usually it's stacked though it'll do a series of common passwords and then it'll do addiction anyway dragon dragon is number nine why was it because how to change MSI like super popular right now let mine is up one I actually don't even know what that means that mine looks not English monkey is up five to number 12 good job monkey master is 19 is better on here Batman is master Batman I love I love new six nine six nine six nine how is that new I would have expected that to be yeah trust no one is 25th that is one that I would not have imagined would be nearly as popular as Batman oh it's let me in the twitch chat is like wow dude you guys are dumb you know what got it maybe if whoever came up with that capitalized the first letter of every word or something which would actually have made it more secure as well let's not blame me for the stupidity of this list any of it my one of my favorite things is bringing up the social engineering aspect of hacking to people talking about how like leaving flash drives around and having people plug them into their computers and compromising their security that way or just talking to people right being like what was your mom's maiden name and be like oh well funny story it's blah blah blah it's like okay well now I can get into like every account ever and mine's a trick good yeah no that's actually not a bad idea at all actually sorry can I can I can I sorry I'll let you know I can get back to this okay you'll remember okay because this is kind of a funny story there is my my mother's maiden name question is a trick but there's one account that I have to use I think once every six years you know what I'll just I'll just say what account it is because it's not gonna matter I'm not gonna say what the trick is so it's my ICBC account my my like my insurance account I used a different trick answer then on any of the other ones so every six years when I have to renew my lightens license they'll ask me I'll be like this and they'll be like no I'll be like right that one okay sorry right so yeah there I think it was Jimmy Fallon or some some nighttime TV guy thing did like checking people's passwords in I think New York or wherever he's from so they'd go on the street and be like oh what's your password and people would be like oh I don't want to tell you and they're like they'd be like okay well like what's it made up of and be like okay well it's like my mother's maiden name and then my birthday they'd go like oh that's cool you close to your mom and blah blah blah okay what's your mother's maiden name they'll tell them then oh yeah and when were you born and then they'll tell them it's like oh it was fantastic I don't remember who it was but just like these are the problems with those types of securities it's so easy to just talk to people okay this information smegs are here brings up a really good point makes our why the hell are you wearing a hat I semi forgot about it it's cuz I'm sick and I had a shower but really needed to work on things so came out and didn't fully towel off and put on this so it's a towel hat it's a towel hat hey my hair actually kind of like worked out under that sort of except this bit back here we'll fix it I'll just we have the oh geez we have the technology all right let's move on to our next topic this is one that I have to talk about for a little bit oh yeah because uh okay I can't really say anything go for it keep going no no I can't I can't say certain things about this but this was supposed to buy cast death 97 on the forum original article article here's from nine to five Mac you want it I thought we were doing this one oh no one up that that that one okay all right here we go much less confused no this is this is something that I'm that I'm sort of sort of stoked to talk about so okay so the rumor is Apple to Apple targets for the Apple watch battery life have been revealed there is apparently an a5 caliber CPU inside something that is both impressive and completely unnecessary depending on what kind of experience Apple expects you to have with the watch which of course does seem to be pretty different from what everyone else is targeting with their smartwatches so unlike other smartwatch makers Apple is including I believe it includes Wi-Fi although I feel like I'm I feel like I'm saying something stupid here I'm pretty so aside from Bluetooth my understanding is the Apple watch will also include Wi-Fi connectivity so that is already very different because it's no longer reliant on being tethered to another device in order for it to tell you anything useful and then the other the other big difference is that based on that it's gonna be running kind of a stripped-down iOS and gonna have the super powerful processor I'm guessing you'll be able to run some seriously much more powerful apps on the Apple watch compared to what we can currently do on Android wear devices which are basically I mean yeah you can think around with some apps I found a spin the bottle app when I was doing my moto 360 review it's like let's play spin the bottle just like this really in the group it's like this this result is not looking favorable hold on I'm just gonna turn my wrist so okay so so this this this the the the specifications themselves tell us that Apple is expecting it to be used a little bit differently but these battery targets look bad like super super bad yeah so they're expecting you to get one day but we're not talking always on one day like the g-watch are where I actually forgot to charge it last night and I'm sitting at 17% I get almost two days out of this thing I even got a full two days once so we're talking screen off one day of battery life so they're figuring two and a half hours under heavy use things like games but if you're playing games on your watch you are really doing it wrong especially because the assumption which is a safe one in this case is that you already have an iPhone which is a much better gaming plot anyway okay so four and a half hours sorry two and a half hours in games where did that go okay four hours of exercise tracking are you for real so if I go up and I go skiing I'm done yeah and like the big problem with this too is I didn't even think about the skiing thing honestly I was just thinking about a normal workout session so a lot of people will do half an hour to an hour but that means that you just took out a quarter of your entire phone's battery life I watch but oh yeah watch three hours of continuously looking at the watch face three hours that is brutal it's super not good and so they figure 19 hours of combined active and passive usage with about two to three days in standby now the scariest thing about all of this is that the the rumor mill is swirling with they may not even hit these targets so I think it is fairly safe to say no here's a here's a cool image of the the mag lock wireless charging connector so that's that's kind of cool so the whatever okay the point is do not buy the Apple watch we got there yeah I've actually the reason I wanted to talk about this was not just to highlight how abysmal those results are for the Apple watch and I see what Apple's trying to do here they're trying to deliver a very different experience well that's more like a phone on your wrist that's extremely small and less like a wearable accessory that is tethered to a computer in your pocket I get it but the technology is just straight up not there yet the battery I mean Apple has been an innovator when it comes to battery life and when it comes to processor efficiency but that doesn't change that it simply doesn't exist yet yep to do that and like I complained about what people are doing with phone batteries but I just don't think they can with watch batteries right now and the thing about the thing about the thing about that makes me say that don't buy it is that I I have experience with the difference between those two use case scenarios so the moto 360 I ended up giving a pretty negative review of that device and some of the problems were just the general glitchiness of Android wear which has been addressed somewhat with the lollipop update so I'm running that on the g-watch are the review of which will be coming fairly soon but a lot of it was just I just didn't like it and I couldn't put my hand on quite why I just didn't like it and it turns out the answer now that I'm running the g-watch are is that always off bothers me in a way that are not always on because it's not always off yeah but off unless you gesture or touch it bothers me in a way that I even I didn't quite understand and I've talked about it on the show before I hate that I think it's stupid but it just made using the device not pleasant and not natural and not enjoyable and so the Apple watch I'm gonna say it right now it's gonna be unnatural and unenjoyable and you're gonna be spending way too much for that experience because Apple's trying to put too much hardware into something that just isn't ready for it yet speaking of battery life though actually I want to jump to to a topic so do you want to do one do one in the meantime maybe do the the next one here okay I'll screen share that while I go fetch something cuz I forgot sure so this is posted by Rohit Kumar underscore just P just for reminding I think a lot of people want to hear about the Windows 10 thing and get to that so the next thing we're doing is that moot is quitting 4chan I'm but yeah I put a yeah yeah yeah so he's quitting the controversial website after 12 years so yeah well 11.5 I guess I should clarify he said that the website's gone through a number of challenges throughout the years and kind of made it through a lot of them but the biggest point of failure that they have right now is that there's one large uncomfortable point of feel one uncomfortably large point of failure which is him moot so he's kind of stepping down or quitting however much that is true so that a few senior volunteers can kind of take the place leading the website he says that they will be financially secure for the foreseeable future and there will be no problems I seriously doubt this is a full quit but not like anything really changes over there anyways so no one will probably notice anyways so yeah so there's that he quit and I don't think it matters all right so I just wanted to I want to on this on the subject of devices with better battery and just kind of deprioritizing you know power where it's not really necessary these guys reached out about oh sorry these guys reached out asking us to do a review they're an incredibly small company their website is spectrum HQ net I guess I should just screen share that instead of just getting rid of my screen share and what I thought was interesting about this phone was not necessarily that it has the most groundbreaking specs in the world it actually uses like it's a 1.3 gigahertz quad core media tech chipset it's got 1 gig of the base model has 1 gig of RAM 8 gigs of storage 720p display but what I thought was interesting about it is that it's $150 and I know that inexpensive media tech based phones are not necessarily revolutionary but what I thought was interesting about it is that it has a 4,000 milliamp hour battery in a reasonable form factor and with an IPS display so I just thought I mean basically I think it's still pre-order but I have I have a working one here unfortunately it has pretty narrow pretty narrow band support so you're gonna have to make sure that your carrier will actually work with it but with the power sipping components in here and a 4,000 milliamp hour battery for 150 bucks it's got dual SIM it's also got micro SD expansion I think up to 32 gig support I just I thought it looked interesting I told them look I can't review a phone that doesn't work on my carrier because that's just my policy now because I just I want to you won't necessarily inherently use it enough that way yes but what I told them is just because I thought what they were doing was interesting and I agree with things like not necessarily going you know 2560 by 1440 on the display settling for 720p but making sure it's an IPS panel instead of a TN panel like you might find on a lot of inexpensive phones and so I just wanted to mention it just because actually here I think this this cap from your site 4,000 milliamp hour glory something that may actually get you through a couple of days because while I kind of railed on on Motorola about the droid turbo having claiming to offer a two-day battery life and actually it has a similar capacity battery in it the issue is that it runs extremely powerful hardware and so that's where you're going to to lose a lot of the battery life that you might get from a device like this so there you go it's uh oh yeah oh yeah the 4,000 milliamp hour battery is actually user removable as well so you can you can swap them too which is pretty pretty unusual so yeah 13 megapixel camera not not earth-shattering image quality or anything like that but I wanted to highlight these guys because I think what they're doing is is interesting especially compared to other low-cost phones where they're just low-cost it across the board seeing an IPS panel and seeing a nice high capacity battery is refreshing yeah I feel like if they had a good camera in there as well that's all I'd really want all right you should see oh man I don't have my phone on me right now but I took a picture today with my moto X and I was like all right I should probably get a new phone if for no other reason just the camera so garbage um okay should we do a couple rapid-fire topics before we get into Windows 10 there's I don't know there's some interesting stuff in here GTA 5 inside GTA 4 inside a taco inside a Taco Bell inside a Burger King inside a mall inside your brain this one has done very well but it's already been done and it's not like it's not coming out until like pretty soon OP is a terror oh whoops no wrong one oh shoojin and this is from PC PCgamer.com obviously it's not for crying out loud no I don't care about Guild Wars all right so obviously it's not the entire game but it's just one of those things that grabs headlines and is therefore interesting to people to post on their new sites AMD CEO Lisa Su has confirmed this was supposed to by Teraflop that their new graphics cards will launch in the second quarter of 2015 very good products coming in Q2 2015 rumors include Fiji XT with 4096 GCN cores and you gotta kind of feel like Nvidia is just sitting on their butts waiting for AMD to make a move you know I love the guys at Nvidia they're my bros they're good people but this is posted by opcode on the forum and the original source here is from gforce.com the really what are these sources why are there sources for like VX GI in here all right let's go ahead so the GTX 960 officially launched and feels like a holding pattern boy does it ever feel like a holding pattern I mean we were getting used to for a while new graphics cards launching and basically if the only piece of information that we gave Luke was the price he would pretty much be able to create a performance graph of how it's taxed up against all of its competitors because that was apparently what AMD and Nvidia were doing they were just figuring out how it performed and going okay let's price it yeah whereas the way that it used to work was that when there was a cost advantage for a new GPU or just a new design in general we would get better performance for the price or we would get better performance with a greater price or or like much better performance for the same price or something anyway the point is that it would try to push things forward whereas the GTX 960 pushes nothing forward and you can make the argument consumption okay yes yeah yes and that is important for certain things this will make the mobile gaming experience better really it should be it should be less expensive though and we've seen Nvidia do this whole GPU creep thing over the last couple of generations where it's like it used to be that this class of of chip went in these classes of products and now all of a sudden this class of chip well hold on there's like a Titan something put that one there and then actually this one which used to be like a x60 class product is now a 70 80 class product this one that used to be like a x50 class product is now this so so this the GTX 960 launch was a little bit disappointing to me yes it compares well against its competition but the problem is that AMD's competitors for it are these much much larger and older GPUs that are based on in some cases significantly older architectures like the the r9 280x which is like how old is that card now because it's not yeah because it's not really a 280x yeah the 7970 yeah um 70 like here I'll search for like the launch 7970 yeah December 22nd 2011 so yeah yeah it's three years old so AMD is sort of not really on a level playing field because they can't lower prices enough to compete with this card and if they did if AMD made a move in terms of pricing went yeah we're just gonna charge $150 for you know r9 285s Nvidia can match that like that so what's my point here the 960 came out it's frustrating to me that yawned really loudly yeah it's also kind of annoying that it came up right after Christmas because this is a much better Christmas priced card than basically anything else they had that's a good point I didn't even pay a little bit more for our cards Oh Christmas is over okay here we go yeah if they released it at Christmas time I think they probably would have sold a lot more of these instead of 970 because 960 was rumored to be coming a lot sooner than it ended up coming up well the one that I'll be interested in is if we get a 960 ti at 249 if it's actually based on GM 204 as opposed to GM 206 so so right now we've actually it's funny we've only got four Maxwell desktop products and they're running three different versions of the chip because 750 ti is GM GM 207 so it's GM 207 GM 206 and GM 204 and then we haven't seen you know a Titan class product which would be running a GM 200 yeah there's lots of rumors about that I guess I guess that's all there is to really say about that I mean we're kind of curious what you guys thought of our coverage of the of the 960 where we kind of did a single card and then we did SLI coverage as a separate video you know what you guys thought of that feel free to sort of post in the Twitch chat but I'll be completely upfront with you guys the only reason we did that is because we ended up with too many 960s by accident so 970 980 launch we had we had 980s no problem Nvidia provided those but 970s were actually provided by the add-in board partners and Nvidia apparently somehow or another we we got allocated lots of 980s because of people like prioritizing us and wanting us to send us their best product we didn't get a single GTX 970 on launch because everyone kind of assumed well someone else will send them a 970 we're gonna go ahead and send them 980 and I didn't I didn't ask about it because I just kind of assumed that I was gonna be getting seated one and I didn't really think of it 960 I went I was like okay let's we're not gonna let that happen again so I proactively was arranging samples and then it turned out that they were gonna be seated automatically and they were in the mail before I even found out you know when the launch was so we ended up with three 960s instead of one which is what I wanted yeah so so so we were like okay well I don't just want to do three of the same review because that's super boring so let's do SLI as a separate one so we'd love to know what you guys what you guys think of that yeah do we want to move into Windows 10 or should we do sponsors first just to get it out of the way about 970 what's about 970 oh everyone wants to talk we should talk about 970 so people can stop screaming then do sponsors and then just Windows 10 it for basically the rest of the show sure well no not the rest of the show we do have a basically it is a well I don't want people to tune out because they don't care about Windows 10 I do it'll basically be the rest of the show but I was trying to lie way to ruin it someone screwed up the there is other stuff writer dimmer how the power profiles are it's brightening right now it was stopped okay um all right where is this nine nine seventy apparently the GTX 970 cannot utilize all four gigs of its memory and I think that headline is a little bit misleading although I don't necessarily disagree with the overall sentiment this headline is better Nvidia's GTX 970 has a rather appears to have a rather serious memory allocation but because it's not that you can't access all four gigs it's that once you start filling it up these performance is of the VRAM one twenty-fifth of the speed or something like that tanks significantly so it seems like when the last 500 to 700 megabytes of VRAM gets accessed memory performance drops significantly so this is something that is currently and a developing story on reddit overclock.net and guru 3d some users have even found their card and his videos on websites so just all over the place it goes belly up when hitting three gigs so it looks like it varies from card to card the GTX 980 is fortunately not affected okay so it's not a Maxwell issue but seems to be one specific to the 970 going beyond so basically the problem will manifest as stuttering or dramatically increased frame times so basically just a degraded gaming experience even though FPS reporting might still seem like it's okay so here were the here were the results the blipity blupity blupity blue yep so a fraction of the performance once it reaches the once it reaches the end here so we're seeing 150 gigabytes per second from this benchmark here fall to 22 or even as low as 6 gigabytes per second once the card is full so this writer says you know well the card still performs like a champ which is good this makes it extremely hard to recommend this card right now especially in light of the fact that one of the big arguments for the GTX 970 is how it not only has the the horsepower to game at 4k it has the VRAM that you're gonna need to run high resolution textures at high resolutions which which I mean and ah man this is just as fail written all over it doesn't it we don't yeah we're still waiting to hear back from Nvidia though everyone's waiting to hear back from Nvidia yeah video is investigating they're investigating and they have officially responded and they are investigating so I think we need to kind of hold tight and wait till we hear back from them there's some people are speculating recall already and we don't know that that will be the case although the accusations you know the thing is is that I this looks pretty low level this isn't something that's showing up just in games this is something where people can okay so if they can fix it in drivers great yeah if it requires a firmware fix I might recall yeah yeah because you can't expect well okay it's easier than it used to be like we had to update the firmware on our on our 970 win for still can't really expect people to do that on their own because there's possibilities of bricking and whatnot but the problem is like and then whose problem is it is it the board partners it is is it the retailers I remember the last time we had we had a recall it was the the rev one of the p67 chipset back at NCIX I remember oh yeah it was a disaster that took me a second to kind of all that was cool and so the way that that one worked that one even more unfortunately was was a hardware respin yeah as opposed to just a firmware update so so and I'm I don't even know I mean Nvidia might not be able to fix this with a firmware update or they might but that one was just a disaster there's some pretty there's some people getting pretty low level in terms of like what could be causing the issue and there's there's some speculation on each side where yeah well if these things are what's actually happening then it could maybe be firmware fixed or if these things are what's actually happening it might have to be a hardware replacement of some sort etc etc it's pretty interesting so basically in development we don't know no one knows right now and videos investigating I can't believe they didn't notice this yes and like even if you did I can't believe you would possibly think that no one would notice it so I'm pretty sure they didn't notice it Nvidia they they tend to they tend to take the approach where they they want to make sure their technology is legitimately better so they can maintain their kind of smarmy attitude about how great their tech is they don't seem to be in the business of trying to say that it has something that it doesn't yes so I don't think they knew yeah like the last thing take the good and the bad from that the last thing Nvidia wants is to have the smug smile wiped off their face by something embarrassing like this so I cannot imagine for a second that anyone at Nvidia knew about this I'm surprised it wasn't at least a little bit more than one extremely short forum post I understand that though like I get it yeah the response almost has to be that because you you can't say more until you know more I mean you'd love for a more official statement saying you're looking into it do you though I mean okay let's let's let's be realistic well wait was okay was that their forums I don't remember which form it was that was their own forums then that's probably fine can't can't remember I can't remember anyway the point the point is like the only people who know about this right now are gonna be hardcore enthusiasts who are on sites like OCEAN okay is Nvidia gonna go and send an e-blast to everyone in their gforce.com mailing list about something like this when for most my problem was more the fact that it's extremely short I think it's like one line responding to one person's quote and they're like by the way looking into it yeah but you can't say more because as soon as you say more then you're you're like bound to that and when you don't know what's going on you have to investigate first like I I don't I don't disagree with you I'm playing a little bit of devil's advocate here yeah because yeah for the consumer who spent their money and bought that graphics card they they deserve more so I don't actually a better line than I thought it was we are still looking into this and we'll have an update as soon as possible I thought it was shorter than that to be completely honest so but from a corporate standpoint from a legal look at it yeah if you admit blame on a legal standpoint then even if you rectify yourself later you're still in the wrong so there's there's a ton of reasons why they just shouldn't say more and they should say nothing until they know what their action plan is because legal standpoint that kind of stuff is is really weird because apologizing is always a negative thing no matter what in a legal standpoint and aside from from all of that like they're remember Nvidia is not just dealing with the end user customers they're dealing with like their ad and board partner customers on this yeah who are going yo dog what's going on who's footing the bill if these cards are coming back like I can assure you those questions are already happening yeah right now yeah you know what that actually leads really well into Puget's thing we have like 35 minutes right now that's it to do windows okay well I still want to do the Puget thing so this is oh and I guess we should talk about the backblaze thing while we're at it so Puget so these are more like to keep us in the chat these are more like if you feel like checking them out go ahead and check them out they're not as scientific as as you know I think the grass would indicate that they appear to be for example Puget's thing here is strictly based on I think it's a sues graphics cards so on both the Nvidia and the AMD side but they show desktop GPU failure rate by DOA or failure during their testing and then failure out in the field so they show that Nvidia is actually improved quite a bit since the GTX 200 series with the 700 series being the best so far and no data for 900 series and then AMD being kind of a little bit all over the map here and then their hypothesis was or their theory or whatever was that it seems to be something about AMD because all the cards are from a sues but that may not necessarily be the case because there's a lot of different reasons a card might fail earlier for example if AMD's pricing was lower it's a lot harder for someone like an add-in board partner to bake in the margin that they need and the build quality that they want to put into it so they might cut corners on something even if it's the exact same manufacturer that's why you don't see a $200 graphics card built on exactly the same car like PCB design and power delivery design as a $500 graphics card so if the ASP is just lower on one side you might get a little bit more cheaping out on things and then backblaze published another one I don't even want to I don't even want to link this I did already did you told me to link them backblaze releases hard drive failure rates for 2014 with a series of the worst source links on the planet we got to get that out of control where's the graph like four backblaze links in a low in a row that just say backblaze.com like what freaking ones are these where they go completely different websites even one of them is a blog god more than one of them is the blog anyways doc frustration anyway there's a graph it says Seagate drives are terrible and Hitachi ones are good and oh here we go yeah so there's the annual failure rate take this with an enormous grain of salt because something that we pointed out last time they published one of these lists every time they published on it like three or four is that their methodology is terrible it's ridiculous sometimes their sample sizes are just outright way too small other times their sample sizes are just too small and other times they are like there is no controlled environment for the drives they're running at different temperatures with different amounts of drives in the thing around them less vibration different parts of the rack different oh so please ignore backblazes hard drive reliability thing never look at their blog ever not because we're like super close friends with Seagate and trying to cover their butts in fact I'd say we have pretty much equal relationships with Seagate and WD. 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So let's get into the Microsoft Windows 10 keynote Windows 10 is a paradigm shifting all-new it's Windows as a service although it's not quite Windows as a service the way that I was looking for it to be but it still kind of is the idea is having the same experience whether you're on this kind of a device or this kind of a device or a much larger pretend this is a monitor this kind of a device this box under here okay that's not gonna work oh I caught it by looking in the camera that was awesome so so they're their concept here is called continuum which is very different from continuity it actually is pretty different because continuum is supposed to be about having the same look and feel across the devices whereas continuity is about having access to the same information across devices and and being able to use the features of one device on another device okay it's a very blurry line but um the point is then there were a few cool things that stood out it's about almost a two and a half hour keynote that honestly it's pretty good oh I was gonna say it was terrible really yeah I thought a lot of their presenters I think probably practiced it too many times so that they were like stuttering on things that should have just been fluid speech but I didn't mean good okay I didn't mean good as in the presenters were like very engaging people I think the content was pretty good I mean you watch Apple's keynote addresses right no there was there was like there was some there was some also ran sort of presentation skills going on with it okay that should have been the presentation skills were not great I think was good the content was okay but it should have been an hour and a half keynote there were ways to condense that there was some really great when the CEO came up at the end and sort of talked about how it all tied together that was great but there was a lot of filler that throughout I do also appreciate that they bring people on stage that are very in touch with what's going on yeah they could have just put hosts up there that's true and then like yeah and like I would rather it be the guy that may not be super amazing at presenting but did a lot of this stuff or led the teams that did a lot of this stuff and had was deeply integrated with it the entire time like the guy that did the hollow glass which we'll get to that at some point he's been working on that project for like seven years like maybe not the best presentation skills but you can tell the whole time that he's on stage that he cares to a crazy degree yeah and I liked that very passionate so maybe not the presentations go was super high but I knew that he cared and that actually made me care more about it and I focused more on the device instead of just the presentation anyway all right so let's um let's go through and let's do let's do the the highlight reel this was posted by says ray on the forum by the way so for me huge highlight was that it looks like Windows 10 is gonna do a much better job with convertible devices sorry we don't call them convertibles anymore two-in-one devices so things that are notebooks and also tablets like this one allowing it the the switch between a tablet mode that by default has your applications whether they're win 32 or modern UI applications by default be full screen with multitasking being swiping in from the left to boom your keyboards connected now you have a more traditional window management desktop laptop type experience yeah looked really good huge improvement another so one of the big things aside from window sizes is start menu so instead of being stuck with that full screen thing there's a new micro modern start menu within a more traditional start menu that can have text in as well looks absolutely fantastic that you can maximize it yeah there's a max there's like a window maximize button where you can make it bigger if you want which I kind of doubt anyone will really use but it's there if you want it another one I'm really excited about is it looks like Microsoft is stepping up to Apple's level here with respect to in OS integration of things like calendars things like notifications something I really have felt like is is missing it's like look I don't want to use Bing and I don't want to use your calendar because they suck I use a Google Calendar on on OS 10 I can just sync my Google Calendar boom OS 10 calendar application which is great by the way automatically has all my crap in it I don't have to think about it so it looks like we're gonna get support for stuff like that on the subject of Bing I guess we'll talk a little bit more about that but a lot of the stuff they were showing off is very Bing and OneDrive reliant which is extremely frustrating to me I don't know anyone who uses OneDrive and you know what here let's let's go ahead before we get into that if we're gonna finish this yeah yeah yeah go ahead go ahead sure okay so Windows 10 will be free for people that have Windows 7 plus so Windows 7 or Windows 8 and it's it's free for a year but by that they mean you have to activate within a year and then it's free forever once you've moved to it so it's not that you your license runs out in a year it's that you you need to move up within a year essentially which is I think understandable personally so upgrade all your stuff then you'll be fine also if you are on there I don't remember exactly what it's called but their early adopter program where you're testing out Windows 10 right now a lot of the stuff that we're gonna be talking about today will be in updates very soon apparently the Cortana update is gonna be fairly quick here which is actually very interesting and has me kind of looking for a device to install it on because I want to try that out we'll talk about that more later and they're gonna have the install versions for phone Windows 10 for your phone fairly soon for those early adopter guys as well which again I don't remember the name of and Windows 10 for phones are just I don't think this is in our notes but one thing that I really liked there was they are they're they're making that like they're making everything look more similar but one of the big ones that they fixed this has been a big right for me is the settings menu so they are making it look similar on phone and on and on desktop and tablet and then they're consolidating everything like it was really broken yeah with some things in modern some things in the classic UI and just extremely frustrating so here we go I just posted a straw poll I mean I want to know what cloud services you guys are using because a lot of the stuff they demoed was like super cool if you happen to have a surface 3 and a Windows phone and you use one drive and like one drive so basically if you're a Microsoft yeah yeah and I hope to see better integration with some third-party services even though I'm not sure I'm not sure if that's gonna happen one thing too is Microsoft has never really been that hardcore about needing to use their stuff so I wouldn't be surprised if maybe it launches with these things but yeah but they're trying to create that more integrated experience and and quite frankly hopefully you have to do it hopefully they're trying to make the availability of more integrated service one thing you can tell definitely is that it isn't this or at least it doesn't seem to be I guess you can tell definitely that it doesn't seem to be the like split team idea that Microsoft used to be yeah everyone seems to kind of be coming together working together now which is good oh that should have happened a long time ago maybe more people would be voting for one drive right now if that had actually happened what else we got here um the new office for mobile which is free on devices under whatever inches I think seven or eight something like that looks fabulous so aside from aside from being able to have like a full-fledged Microsoft Word like they've modified the ribbon interface to sit at the bottom of the screen which looks fantastic it actually works kind of across the device so if you're writing an email and outlook you can have a fully fledged Microsoft Word engine word processor on your phone in order to compose emails which is fantastic to me the new photo aggregation and organization application that's included looks really great I always liked Windows photo gallery but it lacked the automation that I thought it needed so this one does little things like it'll it'll retouch your photos automatically which I'm personally not a huge fan of but it'll get rid of duplicates and it'll sort bursts on its own automatically turn off all those things and you can turn don't want retouching I'm pretty sure it can turn yes so you can do all that stuff too and then one last thing that was just kind of this stood out to me about the whole presentation and seems to be like a gem that I don't see too many other people talking about is one drive music collection and playlist sinking yeah you can drag and drop your entire music library into one drive and boom it's everywhere with all your playlist accessible and automatically updated that is freaking cool personal cloud music service is awesome for folks who have large collections of CDs and or digital files that they've purchased over the years we're just like yeah owning your own stuff just just owning your own data is a really cool I mean it's still on someone else's cloud server and so there's that but you you own the songs instead of a service like the Google music thing where once you're done with it they're all gone yeah yeah like if I kind of went okay there's probably only 3,000 songs that I'll ever care about in my life and if I subscribe to this for eight dollars a month for 30 years what's actually a better value for me like there's some math to do for which one works best for you but either way I think that's that's a really cool feature so I'll let you do Spartan browser because Spartan browser looks it looks like Microsoft kind of hedging their bets a little bit but also moving in the right direction I think they're moving in the right direction anyways there's a new rendering engine engine that they say is more for today's web wall I just your last one apparently one drive is doing better than I thought sixteen percent it's doing better than I thought too but it's still not 44% yeah with Google Drive I actually thought Dropbox would have more yeah I thought Google Drive would be right about there Dropbox would have more and one drive would have less I hate Google Drive's interface okay go ahead I still use it more just because it happens to be there and it's free but yeah anyways one of the coolest things is that you can mark up the web quite easily now I know some people are gonna be like well you could kind of like snipping tool and then write on it and it's fine and there's other kind of stuff for this already but it's very well integrated so if you have a pen or a touchscreen device in general so you just want to use your finger you can draw over websites and do whatever if you have a keyboard you can add in a commenting system which looks really nice it looks very similar to words commenting system which is actually really good we use it a lot in in in office here I guess in-house actually very specifically works but but like you can highlight things and comment them like very very good and it's collaborative to a certain degree so by snapshotting it you essentially take the website offline in the aspect that if there's an update to that website your snapshot will not update but all the links and everything that are on there will continue to work and all that kind of stuff will still be fine and I believe you'd be able to right-click on an image and view it source it information all that kind of stuff like it's just a snapshot of a web page and then you can share that to people and mark it up collaboratively which is actually really cool it's really cool I can see it getting behind something like that yeah and all this support hopefully someone doesn't just mark the whole page but I'm sure yeah and all this collaborative ability is built into the browser so all the buttons for it and stuff are built into the browser so it's very quick and easy to do which is pretty cool that's the main thing in terms of markup and that's the main thing in terms of the rendering engine which they didn't really talk about but it also has Cortana built into it Cortana Cortana Cortana I have the markup clip here yeah so you can see later on he draws a smiley face which I guess he'll do in a second I didn't realize this was actually playing but like he circled it through this does a smiley face and in a little bit here you'll see him actually share it with other people well I think he I don't know if he actually does but he goes to do it anyways Cortana integration here can we talk about how Internet Explorer and code name Spartan will both be included with Windows 10 yeah and Spartan will be available pretty much across the board so we're gonna have Spartan on Windows 10 is all about unifying all this stuff so it'll be on your phone it'll be on the desktop it'll be it'll be everywhere it looks looks really interesting is there anything else that we can talk about about Spartan yet I mean they've redone the UI to make it more because it's not Windows or it's not an Explorer 10 so let's move on to our should we talk about Cortana on the desktop before Cortana in Spartan I don't actually think so because Cortana and Spartan is very specific okay sure talk about what Cortana will do in Spartan yes exactly so she's not as yeah does not function the same way as Cortana on the desktop so we'll talk about that in a second she's more of like a pre-done web crawler which will try to assume the information that you want from a web page for you so say you go to the restaurant one is a very good application for this it's a good example but it's also not a particularly compelling example because I can I can Google Maps search a restaurant and most of that information comes up in the drop that's not all she does I know all right so she can get you address and directions like you just said phone number and all that kind of stuff which is usually quite easy to find on a restaurant website but there are definitely some restaurants where they might not even have the menu on the website or they have it somewhere else and she can try to figure out this information for you and if the menu isn't super detailed or say you're like what the heck is that she'll have already figured out all this information so if you click on a word that's like I don't know artichoke which you should probably know but anyways she can tell you about it she can give you dietary information all that kind of stuff it's kind of like that's really cool yeah it's kind of an assistant in terms of that yes of course things like the address is probably pretty easy and most websites often their menu is often there and often detailed enough but it'll also have like you can click on a menu item and it'll give you Yelp reviews yeah like these kind of things are actually pretty cool and helpful not groundbreaking and not things that you wouldn't have been able to do on your own but helpful yeah and but stuff like when you start typing in an address having your Tana kind of jump in and be like oh hey is this actually what you wanted to know so it's all gonna come down to how well it works and Microsoft sales pitch for Cortana involves a whole lot of it's powered by Bing just like scary very scary has Bing improved that that assumption thing that he was bringing up is basically if it knows you're waiting for a flight from somewhere if you're waiting for someone to come in and you start typing in that airlines website it'll just be like oh well that flights coming in at this time is that what you're actually looking for and then you don't really have to actually go to the website which is nice which is very cool we're also getting Cortana on the desktop and quite frankly I I don't understand why this didn't happen before I have no idea why Siri isn't on OS 10 yeah I cannot think of a reason why Google now isn't a desktop app I mean every MacBook and every iMac has a microphone like for sure it's on there and has speakers like they're built in so why was Apple not the first one to do this yeah they I mean they sat on ass since they released Siri and did nothing on the desktop anyway sorry go ahead so Cortana's coming to the desktop Microsoft sorry go ahead it's like your typical kind of assumption for voice control there's also kind of interesting things like that Cortana is a trusted assistant so you can tell it what you want it to know and what you don't want it to know yeah so in the notebook you can be like yeah I'd really prefer for you to not know my gender or not know the year that I was born but the more information you give Cortana the more relevant stuff will just kind of pop up like hey the game that you want to see yo dog there might be some information about it or if you happen to be a big sports fan actually I thought one of the best examples of it being smart was one that they didn't even give in the presentation because the presenter for this part was talking about how he was a big sports fan and the like front and center on on on like whenever we were kind of looking over his shoulder at his devices it was all about inflate gate which is the big sports news right now yeah and so I thought I thought that was really cool if there's more than you really need to stop putting gate on the ends of things if there's more that Cortana can do to keep relevant information at your fingertips then I think that's great so you just click on the search bar near the start button you get like a Google Now style information feed I can be used through type or voice so you don't have to yammer at your computer like a person who talks to their computer if you don't want people to think you're crazy and yeah I mean it's it's probably worth tuning in to just the Cortana on desktop part of the keynote if you watch nothing else well that and the other the hologram thing I actually see myself using Cortana on desktop more than I see myself using Google Now I can imagine that yeah yeah yeah definitely like I'm just walking around my house especially because I have a snowball yeah and like people that have mics that are not necessarily just headset mics because especially ones that are like adaptive like a snowball is so if it doesn't hear anything for a little while it'll try to reach out more right so if I'm in my kitchen it might actually be able to pick me up right and if I'm like hey Cortana play music it'll hear me from fairly far away because it's a snowball and then actually be able to start playing music and stuff that's really cool you might like Google Now more if it was if it was on the desktop if it was on your wrist oh yeah although I still find myself using Google Now very little because Google Now on my wrist can't control my speakers on my desktop that's correct so the integration some other weird it's the it's the ecosystem fragmentation so what I could do is if I had Sonos support which will likely come eventually I could play music yeah so be like Sonos play my Google play whatever now whatever so it's kind of going from Google to through the Sonos app so yeah so it's through Sonos's app to Google's service Sonos please play plays through the Sonos so it's so it's very fragmented but if Microsoft can maintain control of of all those different steps in the chain then yes it could provide a very seamless experience yeah one thing I do want to comment on sort of accord they also showed off some Cortana stuff on mobile so they they sent actually no I think this particular demo was on the email was on the desktop yeah the email was on the desktop at about 35 minutes into the keynote where he uses Cortana to type an email and the email is a one-liner with the subject line and takes a minute to send and I kind of went all this talk about natural interaction with our electronics and how touch and voice are the direction that we're heading I agree with touch touch touch always kind of made sense to me voice continues to make absolutely no sense to me and I'm gonna I'm gonna pull up my crystal ball and I'm gonna say voice will never be a mainstream interaction with a device well I shouldn't say mainstream it'll never be it'll never be it'll never be a great experience and it'll always be a little bit weird talking to yourself totally wrong okay okay fine so let's let's let's get to that keep doing your thing so the reason that I have for this is that whenever you use voice control you are going to disrupt everyone around you which means in the workplace it will never make any sense because I've been using it I've been actually I've been having a little bit of fun with it because it's not like I don't have a voice control thing on my wrist at all times I'll get a message while we're filming and I'll be like okay Google Bobbity-Blobity-Bloobity-Bloop uh oh yeah what did it come up with that body body something lick anyway um so and I'll and I'll talk at it and immediately anyone else in the room kind of goes huh what because I'm not talking loud enough for them to hear me properly but I have to talk loud enough for the microphone to hear me so in an environment where you have to be around other people it's never gonna make an ounce of sense and I even think the same thing will be true for the home to some degree yes there are fewer people and they're not necessarily trying to do anything but if I'm reading on the chair and my son is on the couch trying to control some crap on the screen and is talking at it I'm gonna be like shut up pick up a controller because that's annoying because we're hardwired in much the same way that our eyes are hardwired to notice movement even in our peripheral vision we are hardwired to notice especially the sound of another human being communicating and it is extremely distracting to us if it's happening all the time and it has nothing to do with what we're supposed to be paying attention to so I don't see why any of those reasons mean that it'll never be a mainstream interactive mainstream was the wrong word so I said that immediately mainstream is the wrong word it'll be mainstream and I was searching for another word and I got lost because anyone can use it I mean what does mainstream mean it means it's on every device and like anyone I think it will be very widely but it will be extremely edge case scenarios where it makes any sense to use versus anything else I think an office setup like we have is a fairly edge case scenario to be completely honest a lot of people have cubicles and a lot of people are expected to be on the phone while they're in their cubicle a lot yeah I think voice control while you're in an area where you're expected to be talking to no one else is totally fine okay but also voice control apps are trying to learn their users voice that's a constant thing that they're not very good at yet I'm not saying oh that wasn't even my concern I'm not yeah yeah I know I'm going somewhere give me a moment we're far from it being super great we all definitely know that but it's trying to learn your voice so if you were in even a very crowded very loud area if you talked at a fairly normal tone it should be able to figure out that that was you talking and what you said and whether or not that comes from microphones on your head better noise cancellation or somehow so you should be able to use it while walking around about wherever very easily and it should be able to talk to you you should be able to use it in cubicle style environments you should be able to use it in tons of different environments maybe it's not that thing where your dad's sitting in the same room as you and you're trying to talk to the TV you should probably use a remote because definitely in that situation your dad's gonna be like what the hell are you trying to talk to me about I'm trying to read this thing right I don't expect it to be used there but just like almost every single other input medium it hasn't replaced the other input mediums you still expected like the fact that we can already talk to our TVs has not removed right clicker the fact that you can do motion control with a lot of TVs has not removed the clicker especially the fact that that laptop has yeah really bad really bad I hate those things the fact that this laptop has a touchscreen on it hasn't removed the keyboard because the keyboard is still extremely good this is a different way so okay I agree that it's a different way what I the problem is I I don't even know if there is a word to describe my okay I guess what I'm looking for is the the stigma the the the weirdness of interacting with something by voice in front of other people I don't think that's going to go away and it might work better better noise cancellation and voice recognition and we'll make it function and I think the the things that are hearing you whatever you want to call them at this point in time yeah need to become more personable as well yes they do for that to be a thing and I think this might sound a little bit morbid but the people that came before voice control was a big thing kind of need to die off and go away no okay so to be more socially acceptable yes you think either society needs to shift its its perception which the only way it really happens is by and this is a known thing certain things don't get adopted until the people that were alive before it aren't alive anymore like that's I know that's a terrible thing to really say right but it's so maybe I'm one of the people who has to die one scenario that even mean that what one scenario I can see where it will make more sense than it does today is if it's combined with something that where you have a visual heads-up display that allows you to read yes okay my issue with voice control right now is whenever it doesn't quite go right and and the safeguards that have to be in place in case it doesn't go right because his a one-liner email took a minute to send that is devastating hmm maybe other people have lots of time on their hands but I don't have a minute to send a one-liner and if I was gonna send something much more complicated than a one-liner then I'm gonna spend either I or you know an assistant that I guess I have to hire is gonna have to spend a bunch of time going through and editing something and they did show off okay you can put in a hashtag and it automatically punctuates and all that stuff that doesn't mean I don't have to go back through and edit it if I'm doing anything longer and more complicated so to me again too I think this is where much further down the line and I've honestly I've always found the messaging especially when it's not just a recording of your voice yeah to be a very odd use case right for voice control because of these issues it takes way longer in the end and like maybe okay if both of your hands are currently preoccupied if you're trying to cook something yep say or if you're trying to do something else maybe sure and I use this for that periodic yeah yeah I'm sure but then like when he's his his thing was not you the guy in the presentation was that he was like working on Excel on his monitor and he had too many Excel things open so he couldn't send an email just like it's gonna be so much easier the people okay that's my point then I guess yeah the people inventing it don't seem to know what it's for yeah for that at all no not really I don't I don't think that use case was very good I think voice honestly I think voice is a crazy important medium I think it's gonna be one of the most important ways that we interact with devices not now I think it will be at some point in time and there's a few things that could really fix this for me like if I didn't have to hold it to my you know face yes no that's an important change then he's a recognition good if if I could if I could like okay walking down the street would be a great example where I I wouldn't want to kind of if I'm gonna pull out a device and kind of yak at it I might as well do it with my phone whereas if I do have a head-mounted display or an augmented reality display of some sort where I can read the message and then I just kind of say okay yes okay that's less weird to me than just kind of walking down the street going like this like I mean we saw that that version of the future if you watch the movie yeah we're near the end of the movie just everyone is walking around talking to their AI people that they're in people digital people that they're in relationships with their their artificial intelligences that they're in these relationships with I don't see that happening and maybe it's old fashioned but we are going to crave the actual attention of other people and other people are always going well in her relationships with your AI we're not we're not that was still not very widespread closer to the end where even they were there were friends but the like relation depends how you define relationship relationship doesn't necessarily mean girlfriend okay it just means relationship yeah so I don't remember where we're going with this I don't think you and I actually disagree that much I think it was the way that I phrased it was a terminology thing like I think it's always and when I say edge case I mean I don't mean edge case where only certain people will ever use it I mean edge case within your daily life where it will make sense to use it like we've got people bringing up that driving is a great use case for voice control and I would mostly agree it still needs to be better oh yeah a lot of the time I will go to use voice control I actually have a dock that sits kind of about this far from my face so I can all like my phone is never more than two feet from me in the car and even with it there if I try to use voice control to reply to a text message it'll make a mistake unless I'm just saying something very simple you know a good double digit percentage of the time and when that happens and I've got two seconds to cancel the note if you all of a sudden I'm scrambling for my phone and I'm driving until it's really basically perfect yeah it doesn't make a ton of sense I think right now it's definitely an edge case I think at some point in time I don't I don't think it'll be nearly as much of an edge case I think we'll almost be designing offices based around to it once we get to a certain degree all right so let's go ahead and and move on to the Xbox gaming app yeah so my games everything you play on any Windows 10 device although I don't know how much clarification we have with respect to shoot what was I thinking when I was watching this crap I forget now anyway okay so everything you play on Windows oh right right right right so there's lots of integration with things like friends lists messages activity feeds a lot of there's a lot of talk with respect to sharing with people and communicating about Skype and it's like that's great fix the IP resolver bug and I'll talk to you about Skype Skype right now nobody should use it if they don't want people to know their IP address and therefore their location yeah all you need is someone's Skype ID and you can know pretty much within a block where they are or where they were where they've been you can see a history it's terrible yeah it's devastating you should not be using Skype if you care at all so anyway all this integration with Skype totally irrelevant to me so they're talking about friends list messages all this stuff and I kind of wonder okay well so are we tied to their social network they mentioned steam very briefly yeah presenter said hey I'm a steam gamer he used it to launch a game but I don't know if we're gonna see any kind of cooperation between that's another thing that actually bugged me is that he didn't launch the steam game through the Xbox gaming app launched it through see should have been able to click launch and it should have maybe even just popped up steam and then loaded the game or something but he left the Xbox gaming app and launched it through steam so it looks like it might be a replacement for them I games too many things with with more social integration there's activity an activity feed so you can see like achievements that other people got and stuff but personally I don't creep my no Steam buddies achievements that often so I don't really feel a need to see that but what's cool is you can capture the last 30 seconds of gameplay and edit it up and share it which is which is pretty cool something that we kind of already have with service with things like Nvidia shadow play but yeah more refinement and more ubiquity is great yes people people jumped all over that oh we already have this will shadow play is not on everyone's things not even all Nvidia GPUs support shadow play yeah and I know a lot of people that have it don't have it on and I know a lot of people that have trouble with it and all this kind of stuff this is built in everyone will have it it's cool I like the fact that it's there I really like the fact that it's there so easy to use to this one remains to be seen if it's gonna be this closed garden sort of everyone has to use the Xbox gaming app and you have to you know interact with Xbox gamers then I don't know how much I like to take off I like that I'll be able to have some form of communication with buddies that I have might be playing Xbox stuff honestly I think that's pretty cool I like cross-platforms and the fable legends demo was pretty cool so they had they had Xbox and Windows play the game at the same time the thing about that demo though is that a lot of fuss got made about how it's running on Windows 10 this isn't new functionality and this isn't something that game developers haven't been able to do for a long time it's just they had a game that they could show where it was actually done that wasn't a shooter that's all that really happened I was hoping I found that interesting too. He was wearing a grunt shirt I think I don't know enough about Halo because I haven't played in the last while but I think that was the grunt logo as in like the little dudes anyways Twitch chat will let me know but he was wearing a grunt thing so the whole time I'm like oh Master Chief collection's coming to PC and it didn't I was like what come on but DirectX 12 is basically here at this point they're saying this is this is really funny I like that I like the spin on it CPU bound game performance CPU bound games can see performance increases of up to 50% which is basically like saying not a whole lot is gonna happen I mean AMD made the same kinds of claims about mantle it is good that the PC is finally getting API's that will support much greater numbers of draw calls for better better complexity much lower level API's for interacting with the hardware more directly allowing game developers to squeeze more performance out of the hardware in general but much like we've seen on every game console so far it's gonna take time for deads to even get any extra performance out of the hardware learning these new techniques so we're not gonna see I don't think anything that significant with the first generation of DirectX 12 games other than much like AMD is touting with mantle easier porting from console versions look at Assassin's Creed unity for a great example of a game that is severely just hampered on the PC because it's well and on the console but compared to even to the console by the number of draw calls that they just didn't reconfigure the game to not require on the PC version so it'll enable that and then other than that yeah more efficient uses CPU so you won't need as powerful a CPU and then given the way that the resolution race has been heating up lately with us seeing basically 4k go from totally way out there to basically affordable in like a year and a half and with 5k displays on the horizon our Dell 5k is in the mail by the way 8k displays like slightly beyond the horizon slightly beyond the horizon we're not gonna be CPU bound in pretty much anything for quite some time I mean there are situations where it'll be great I can see something like you know a physics combat based game like a space sim where all the weapons are physics based yeah we can see the viability of these games actually being a thing more yes which is exciting but I think people who are expecting there it's an expectation management thing I think people expecting games that have a direct X 12 and direct X 11 version to just perform 50% better in direct X 12 I think they have another thing coming what's cool about direct X 12 those there basically won't be many reasons to run a game in direct X 11 mode because direct X 11 hardware for the most part supports direct X 12 across the board which is pretty cool um you can stream from your Xbox to your PC should you so desire okay I thought this was cooler than pretty much anyone gave it credit for oh yeah I didn't think was that cool so go ahead people hammered on it like crazy me I think it's cool for the people now okay basically no one watching this but and now I agree with everyone saying that you should be able to use your Xbox as a streaming device from your PC so you should be able to stream from your PC down to your Xbox yeah that should be both should go more sense it should go both ways I completely agree but what Microsoft seems to be doing right now is this slow unity of everything yeah and one thing that I really like about the Xbox gaming app and one thing I really like about being able to Xbox stream in one direction is that we may build a pile on top of that more and he made it very very clear that the game developers conference will have more information additional information about stuff that they're doing and more news for gamers so there might be more stuff so maybe streaming in both directions maybe more games are gonna be in both platforms maybe additional stuff like that so I think it's cool that you can go in one way the guys that might want to be playing Xbox exclusives and that might be the only reason why they have an Xbox if mom and dad are on the TV will now be able to play it on their gaming PC anyways and there are exclusives that are worth playing look interesting yeah that's a very frustrating but true fact so so we still have to buy an Xbox we just don't have to look at it anymore which is still frustrating and there and there would be better ways to do this but they're there I'm talking steps here they're making things better progressively which is good alright so I'm gonna go ahead and and pull this up but well do you want to go over these bold things oh yeah okay well there's there's a lot more that Microsoft can still do to make gaming on PC better I mean one thing that yeah actually here you know what I'm just gonna kind of rant about a couple things here so one is I mean where's our Xbox one wireless controller dongles like come on if you guys are gonna act like you're taking PC gaming seriously like at least let us use your own freaking controller on your own freaking OS I have to hope that that kind of thing is coming soon and there's another thing that that I find really frustrating about presentations like this you know they're fixing a lot of problems that I didn't really have which is good because that's what an innovative company does it takes what consumers want and kind of goes okay that's interesting but here's what we think you actually need and that's fine but I don't see any talk about making making the PC experience more seamless in the ways that we've been complaining at them about for years like are we going to finally for the first time ever install Windows and not have any exclamation marks and device manager is there any reason on earth why something like an Intel storage driver shouldn't automatically work and automatically be perfect or an Intel Nick driver or whatever else you know Windows update is such a powerful tool and so awesome and just so underutilized at this time and I would have I don't know maybe I'm asking for too much maybe that's just a mundane little detail and they're gonna fix it by the time Windows 10 launches and I'm gonna be like holy crap the first Windows that's actually easy to get started on but I just it's like that I can install Linux on one computer and have everything work right out of the gate and install Windows on that same computer and have a lot of it broken right out of the gate is really weird like yeah adoption for Linux should not be as easy I mean it should not be easier than it is for Windows that's just weird I love Linux but like inherently you shouldn't be easier to use the windows it's just odd that's not that okay to be clear it's not that Linux shouldn't be easier it's that Windows should be easier yes because they have so so many resources to throw at it they're designed to be that easier install base Linux is designed to be the more like badass we do it ourselves install base and I'm not harking on Linux at all I'm just saying Windows should be easier to install it's just weird okay well I wanted to pull up this section of the live stream but my internet connection is being poopy so do you want to just go ahead and start talking about the headset okay are we skipping the surface hub thing I don't know if it matters yeah sure so there's a thing for like meetings and you can draw on it and it's like super cool it's cool and you can if you care you can share meeting notes like super easily because it's all basically a one-note presentation so it's just like blipity-loop send to the people who are in this meeting which is super awesome if you happen to buy a gigantic surface thing for your meeting room and everyone uses one note and all those things yeah yeah so Windows holographic the thing that basically everyone higher internet yeah speaking of exploding did you notice that at the moments when at an Apple keynote everyone would like burst into yeah what was with the people at this one they need to bring us to the next one because when they unveiled like Windows holographic or brought out that 3d printed drone I'd been like the audience and so and like watching them too like something really cool would happen and you'd see everyone go oh it was like going to a Canucks game yeah it was very it was very odd there was no one was excited and you'd have like the guy go up there and be like do you guys want to see it and like that's the cheesiest thing everyone ever and everyone knows it but but you should you gotta have a couple people throw them a bone you know you know a single person stepped up do you know how stressful it is to be up there presenting this stuff like like I'm not gonna say life's work but buddy here has been working on this for seven years I mean that's a significant chunk of his life and he's gonna show you this thing and you're not even gonna give him a what what you know come on anyway so go ahead I got it on the screen now I totally agree with that actually that that was very frustrating watching this and again that's the thing we're talking about earlier the presentation thing like not the most amazing presentation but I appreciate it because of who he is and you can tell how interested in it he is give the guy some freaking claps so he doesn't think he's doing a terrible job not the clap lots of claps it's different okay go ahead anyways that was a little annoying anyways okay so the they're saying it's the most advanced holographic computer the world has ever seen which is probably true probably right the dark visor up in front you'll notice there's kind of like lenses inside that look kind of like glasses might actually be glasses and then there's the kind of dark somewhat see-through display on the front that dark visor is a see-through display that's where the actual images are showing up it's called the hollow lens and it's still in development but will be released in the Windows 10 time frame so based on how quickly we saw Windows 8.1 you could be seen maybe pretty quick not really sure that being said it will be in the hands of developers by spring so no idea when you're gonna be able to buy it sometime in the Windows 10 time frame but it'll be a hands of developers like super soon spring is not that far away so that's actually pretty cool there's no external markers there's no external cameras there's no external wires plugging into anything and there's no connection to anything needed at all it's all inside the hollow lens you don't have to be connected to a computer none of that kind of stuff super cool the sensors are flooding the quote-unquote flooding the device with terabytes of data every second which is kind of insanity it has a quote-unquote high-end CPU and GPU and has its own unique HPU or hologram processing unit inside now this is seen through the the camera rig that you saw on the ladies shoulder which is wearing the camera rig is kind of wearing a hollow lens so it's looking through the camera rig right now how you interact with the device as you're gonna be able to see here the the lit up part you point with your face and then you click with your finger I don't think you actually point with your finger you just click and then there's I think there's one other right voice so it's voice controlled look controlled and finger click control obviously I'm sure they can add yeah there will be lots more options in the future yeah one thing that bugs me about that control level right now is especially in the demo which is of course a like in the future demo not this one which actually looks really cool but anyways it shows them you pick things up and you manipulate it and you stretch things and you do stuff like that none of that works and you like wave at the wall and like a boom your Netflix shows up on the wall and you just sit down on the couch and there's like a virtual TV that actually doesn't exist in this trap to your head yeah Wow holy crap so that kind of stuff doesn't really work yet because the only controls are look click and voice but they might be a thing this does exist already so this is the hollow maker I believe it's called or whatever it's called that part of my notes got moved or something hollow studio there it is this is called hollow studio so you have that kind of like toolkit on the right hand side she's obviously created this thing way more than just this one time yeah she was fast oh yeah she was really fast but it's pretty cool and not even just the idea of being able to make something a hollow maker like she just made this robo-copter quadricopter but you'd be able to view things so you'd be able to view a 3d model so you wanted to buy something off of Squarespace not Squarespace I don't know some place that's really model printing place that prints shapeways shapeways started with an s whatever if you wanted to buy something off of shapeways you'd be able to download the model and actually view it in this type of a form which I'm like really cool look around it like this look around it and like see kind of how it works instead of just looking at a 2d screen which is really cool because you're buying a 3d object and then you'd be able to get it printed and sent to you that's it's very very cool way to view things and you know virtual reality will actually do some of these things really well maybe even better yeah but augmented reality I 100% agree is with with sort of the sentiment from the presentation is that it's it's separate and in some ways better yeah and in some ways worse with that said this thing is I will say it will never be mainstream something this big and this bulky yeah will never be mainstream I don't think the HoloLens in this form will ever necessarily be made this very early adopter thing and I think I think some people are gonna get like super stoked on it this is kind of like a Google Google Glass CES 2014 everyone and their freaking dog was running around on the show floor wearing Google Glass do you remember how many we saw yeah and then I don't think I saw a single one no no and it's not because they all broke it's because the novelty wore off and Google Glass is dumb yeah like sorry and and there will be forms of of a Google Glass type device that will not be dumb but Google Glass is like super dumb and they know that though if you looked through the demo all the cool cinematic demos they weren't wearing anything yeah so how they're planning to do that we don't know yet no but maybe it's contacts let's give them some time hey but yeah it'll be quite a while but this is a very cool start and I think could be very cool for certain applications like that thing I was talking about viewing 3d things in real space and because VR would be nice for viewing 3d models but sometimes you want to see it on something yeah furniture shopping furniture man holy crap furniture shopping is like impossible whereas if you could just plunk models of stuff down and like redecorate that way freaking awesome or better yet if you could you know use a technology like this to have a Skype call with someone who's also looking at it with you and advising you this was one of the coolest things sorry I got a jump on that actually one of the coolest ways that this can be applied in the in the video they show putting a fixing some plumbing yeah I don't remember the name of it right now but and and the person on the other end of the Skype call is seeing a flat 2d image of what you're able to see and can draw on that image it's like put it here in here yeah yeah and in this video it's very interesting oh maybe not this video not sure in one of the videos the guy that was in this video for a moment talks a lot longer about his experience oh no not this guy just get it looks very similar anyways and he actually got to do some of these demos which is one of the coolest things about HoloLens and something that I didn't know until I watched this whole thing is that like this demo they're doing it right now sorry this this Mars demo is is working right now obviously this is a render and it doesn't look that great but you're able to walk around the Mars environment and one thing that's pretty cool that they show here very small but they do show it here is that he's able to take his mouse and take it off screen and onto the HoloLens right and he can click and manipulate things that are in your HoloLens screen using his mouse and Windows 10 together and then can walk into the HoloLens area and look at Mars one thing that and they were able to do that demo in real time now with reporters and like the verge went and did it and then another demo that was working right now which is really cool is the plumbing one yeah so he's he swapped out a light switch the guy told them where to put the wires and where to secure them and all that kind of stuff and he was able to swap out the light switch without ever doing it before with the help of someone who is in Spain that's super cool like if you're not sure how to fix something my dad crazy handy person if I was able to be like hey how do I do this and he just be like pop your HoloLens on and let's he doesn't have to he just has to have Skype I think that's super cool it definitely has uses again exactly what you said it's not gonna be glass or it's not gonna be what glass was trying to do it's it's not gonna like you're not gonna see 20 people walking down the street wearing these unless you happen to be at CES 2015 or CES 2016 I guess I think that's pretty much it I think we gonna we're gonna have to wrap up the show we ran for almost almost two hours here Comcast congratulations you're the worst company of 2014 Ubisoft was not in the running yeah well they I think they wanted it to seem like a contest so so my your Starships has been announced it looks like FTL according to a study that CNN calm posted this smarter people use iPhones which is ridiculous it has nothing it's a tiny sample size making ridiculous jumps like that iPhones are more popular with rich people and rich people tend to be more highly educated and there are four are smarter although somehow an indication of intelligence so come on they claim their sample size is millions but it's actually just one thing that pulled more than once on the same person the actual install base I was reading in the comments across both types of devices was only like 1200 users or something so Google Play now apparently has more apps than the app store which is not to say anything necessarily about the quality of the aforementioned apps and Acer has a predator 34 inch 34 40 by 14 40 G sync curved monitor coming Acer Acer has is like turning into like the monitor company an exciting company to follow about with monitors yeah I mean they've dabbled in the past they had their their their their gaming branded like orange and black 3d vision display they had their Ferrari branded ones like way way back like every once in a while they're like ah maybe we'll make a high-end monitor and then it's like a bunch of commodity stuff and then it's like hey now they care all of a sudden very cool anyway thank you guys very much for tuning into the WAN show today hold up hold up some guy just messaged me flaky banana says guys the Skype issue is fixed awareness is the issue sent me an image of allow direct contacts connections to your contacts only that totally doesn't work talking about awareness to the issue that is not safe that does not save you in any situation and you're still totally so the resolver got patched within days if I recall correctly yes because we heard about that and thought it was fixed and a long D DOS WAN show yes it is totally not fixed the problem is still totally there and you're right awareness is a big issue and that's what we're doing yes yeah yeah I just want to like I'm not even trying to hammer on you specifically I'm just I want you to be aware before that becomes a problem for you oh this is interesting yeah I know the glass Explorer program is over that's not really what I was talking about I was talking about how the people who own them aren't wearing them anymore because they're over it okay so I think that's it see you guys we had like 500 people tune out during the windows talk