 Alright, welcome to the WAN show where we deploy new ways of streaming without actually going ahead and testing the aforementioned new ways of streaming and we are back. So since I have a badminton class tonight and I am not going to have time to do a thing where I stitch together the footage, we're going to start over. So this is John. Hi. John went to Duke. We have a lot of great topics for you today. What were they? Right, Disney. Disney, of all companies, nails free roaming wireless power delivery. I mean Disney? I can see a few ways they would actually use it. To make Star Wars. Well, other than that. With Star Wars technology. Actual light sabers. The Switch will not have a virtual console at launch, which I guess actually makes a fair bit of sense. Microsoft is testing underwater data centers and we're going to do a summary of AMD Ryzen for those three of you who haven't already heard about it. And finally we are going to reveal a rumor that we can neither confirm nor deny because it's just a rumor. The source of the rumor we will explain later. But apparently, allegedly, a GTX 1080 Ti graphics card is set to launch next week. More at 11. Let's roll the intro. Everyone's like shoe on head or pre-recorded? Joke's on you, I don't wear shoes. I wear sandals. And I'm wearing slippers. Yeah. Should we do that? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe. SUNSHINE, SUNSHINE, SUNSHINE! sunrise!aments! I'm seeing a famous star selbstest內 braking yes ah Isso é um Uh Okay so there you have it. Our proof is entirely unsuitable. Neither of these are shoes, and therefore, this video is pre-recorded, hahahaha take that twitch-chat. Alright, everyone's like, where's Luke? So actually, you know what? That would be a great first topic for us to jump into because there is a thing that is not in the docs, so comments to at James underscore gravity for managing to miss the biggest news of the week. The very first thing we're going to talk about in our doc here and that is the, what are they calling it? Cloud bleed? Yes. It's kind of like Hort calling it. But cloud. Yeah. So here we go. The original article here. Actually, if you don't mind pulling it up, I'm having a bit of an issue with my laptops. Oh, hold on. That might solve it. Yep. Let's see if that works. FNF4. Very important. Okay. There we go. Oh, wait. Do you have cloud bleed up? I don't know. I don't think I do. I'm trying to. You got this. You got this. Just cloud bleed. Look at my incredible Bing skills. Wow. Why are you using Bing? Because I open up. Why do you hate finding things, John? I'm kind of a masochist anyway. Okay. So cloud bleed is a big problem. It's like actually disastrous and pretty much in a nutshell. I got it. I got it. I got it. You got this? I got it. Okay. I don't have my notes on it, so I'm going to sound like an idiot for a second until I pull up our internal things. So pretty much what's happening is if you've logged into any Cloudflare protected site. And there's lots of those. Yeah. For those of you who aren't familiar with Cloudflare, basically it's like a DDoS mitigation mechanism that websites, businesses, online services can use to make it more difficult for folks to DDoS them. So if you logged into any Cloudflare protected site or submitted any other sensitive information between, and this is like a fairly significant date range, the 22nd of September 2016 and the 18th of February 2017, there is a chance, it's a very small chance, but there is a chance that your password or that sensitive data may have been leaked. The bug was most severe between the 13th and 18th of February of this year, but even so, the chance of your data having leaked is very low. With that said, security, security, security, preventative security is better than reactionary security. And what you guys need to do is go check out some of the resources that exist right now about this and change and update the passwords for the sites and services that you use that have been affected immediately. Like, e-mediately. That's like the internet, but faster. Almost. Almost. Almost. Apparently this was reportedly caused by one incorrect character in I don't know how many lines of code, and what essentially happened was, my understanding is that it was a server memory dump. So, lore knows what was in the server memory of all these websites at any given time. So, this is why you should probably be going and changing your passwords if you have used any of these affected services. So, even during the greatest period of impact, so February 13th to 18th, around one in every 3.3 million HTTP requests through CloudFlare potentially would have resulted in memory leakage. So, that's about 0.00003% of requests. But, with that in mind, even that tiny percentage is potentially a huge problem. And the reason for that is that even 0.00003% of the leaks from a mere 770 sites is 2.5 billion requests. Internet's a big place. Yeah, internet's like huge. It's like they have more tubes, the most tubes. The bigliest tubes. The bigliest tubes, so many tubes. You can't even keep track of all the tubes it has. So, guys, go check it out. Let me just see. Yeah, there's a blog post over on CloudFlare. I'm going to post that in the forum. I'm going to post that in the Twitch chat. So, you guys can go check that out. Make sure that you're not getting all your stuff ruined by having a bad day because people stole your information and whatnot. All right. Moving on. Shots fired. Google's Waymo sues Uber. So, the original article here is from Ars Technica, and you will have to pull it up if you don't mind. Oh, yeah, there it is. Look at that. Way to go, Luke Screenshare, alleging that they stole trade secrets. So, Google named Anthony Lewandowski, once one of its top engineers, as the chief suspect in this case. Now, this is something that I've personally never really understood that well because, while it's obvious that if you were to take physical documents off of, let's say, a fellow, a coworker's desk, and put them under your armpit or up your butt crack or wherever it is you decide to keep them, and you waddle yourself over to another job interview and kind of go, if you like my face, you should see what happens when I turn around and pull my pants down. Obviously, that would be considered corporate espionage. And in this case, what they're alleging is that he installed specialized software on his corporate laptop, loading it with 14,000 confidential files about LIDAR technology, and that while he was at Google, he was secretly plotting this whole thing. His next startup, Auto, so then he left Google in January, receiving a multi-million dollar severance, by the way, so it was like, here's some millions, buckets, and here's some buckets of money. See you later, nice guy that we like. Then sold that startup in August, so it was like eight months later, for 680 million to Uber. Then a month later, Uber unveils its plans to bring self-driving cars to Pittsburgh. So this looks pretty open and shut, but explain to me what the difference is between putting corporate documents on a USB key up your butthole and learning and developing as a person and as a professional and taking your job skills with you and the knowledge you gained to a new employer. Okay, so full disclosure on this. I had maybe three weeks of trade secret law in law school, but here's what I can tell you. So there's possibly two issues. Was it the best three weeks of your life, though? It wasn't the worst three weeks of my life. Okay, I'll acknowledge that. I had a good professor from the University of Kansas, actually. I saw we had a Jayhawks fan somewhere on Twitter, or not Twitter, but Twitch chat, but so there you go. Anyway, so a couple ways to look at this. So the guy here was an ex-Google employee, yeah? Yes. So one thing you can do, obviously, is when you hire someone, you can stick a confidentiality agreement in front of them and you make them sign it as a condition of employment and you can put in that confidentiality agreement. You can't do things like take sensitive dots, put them on USB drives, and jam them up your butthole. You can put that in the contract. So obviously you go— He's probably okay to jam it up his butthole as long as he doesn't then give it to anyone else. Probably, yeah. I would assume that their lawyers would be good enough to flesh that particular detail out, but anyhow. And obviously this guy was obviously working on something very, very important, and Google is a major company with plenty of money to hire good legal counsel, so he probably did this. But even if that never happened and they hired him off the street, which I'm sure was not the case, but let's say they did this and there was no confidentiality agreement, they just told him, oh, you're hired, you start on Monday. Even so, trade secret law, my understanding is it can still kick in because it has to be— if it's information that isn't publicly available and there's some sort of possible real economic benefit or business benefit to that company, and they actually made efforts to protect it. Google wasn't being all loosey-goosey with this information, but they were actually trying to protect it. So it's not like how to get to the bathroom on the second floor. Right. It's got to be something that's not publicly known and might have some sort of real economic value. So as long as Google made reasonable efforts to protect that, then even if he had no agreement saying, you can't sell this stuff to competitors, then they could still go after him in court. Okay. So if—okay, and I'm just curious, and again, I'm probably digging in a little bit deeper than your three weeks might have covered. Well, try me. Or your correspondence law degree or whatever it is. Oh, wow. No, I'm just kidding. Well, I didn't end up working here, so it's kind of what it's like sometimes. Okay, but let me dig a little bit deeper. What if he didn't sell it? Now, in this case, you can make a pretty easy case for that he sold it because he went and started a company that clearly had this information and sold the company. But what if he just gave it? Is that a different type of offense? I don't know. As far as type, I'm not even sure how to characterize that. But at the same time, I'm almost completely certain you still can't do that. Obviously, I think there's some trade secret and some patent stuff going on here. I'm not sure if they had a patent on any of this stuff or not. But let's say there was a patent there. A patent actually excludes other people even from making your invention for a set period of time. But some things are notoriously difficult to patent. But the other part of that was this stuff looks more like trade secret, the patent, right? Because patents are publicly available. You can go and you can look at them, but you just can't make it or sell it. So to answer your question, I don't think the fact that he – if he didn't sell the stuff, I don't think that would just completely get him off the hook. Right. And in this case, I think it was N. Fischen in Twitch chat pointed out that – we're talking hypotheticals here. Google is a smart and together enough company that I pretty much guarantee you – Enlarged. Every person who sets foot through that door has signed a piece of paper that says something about how you don't steal their stuff, let alone high-ranking engineers. So we get that. But N. Fischen also pointed out that usually some kind of – the word has escaped me. It has been actually a very long week, folks. The severance package, that would usually be accompanied by some kind of agreement as well. Like, here's some buckets of money. You can't do these things for X amount of time after you leave. That would be fairly typical. So we're pretty sure Google has their butts covered here, and this is going to end up being a pretty uncomfortable situation. But the other sort of possible outcome of this is that he's got so many hundreds of millions of dollars that it could end up dragged out in court for a very, very long time. I feel like lethy litigation. So this is a quote from the suit that apparently he took – this is a quote – extraordinary efforts to raid Waymo's design server and then conceal his activities. And they are alleging that his web searches, downloads, and access to an external drive left digital footprints that they plan to use to bring this suit against him. And you can also certainly use that stuff to say, oh, this dude knew what he was doing was wrong. That does not look good in court. All right. So the original article here is from forums.overclockers.uk, and I'm going to get John to bring it up. Okay. Do you have the dock open? I can't get to it on this laptop. You can't get to the dock? You can't get to the dock? No, it's fine. Just give me one second. We're going to do this, guys. It's going to be okay. We're going to do this the old-fashioned way, but we're going to do this the iPhone one way. No copy paste. Just do it. Just do it. Hold on. If you want to get something, you've got to read it. Is this it? Do we have it? Do we have it? I think that's it. Hey, we got it. Okay. Okay. So first things first, I want to give you guys the AMD Ryzen summary, have a little bit of discussion here, and then we're going to talk about already prior to launch – and I don't have mine yet. The pictures that I took were of one at the event. I didn't bring that with me. But we're going to talk about rumors already surfacing that there might be some issues. Dun, dun, dun. Dun, dun, dun. Okay. So step one of this is Ryzen's coming. I actually don't know if the – yes, I – okay. So it's for preorder now, and the ship date is March 2nd. So Ryzen's coming. That's super exciting. We're all super amped up on that. There are three SKUs that they're announcing right now, all in the Ryzen 7 lineup. Have you looked into this much? A little bit. Okay. So there's the top of the line 1800X. That one is clocked at, I think it's 3.6 to 4 GHz, and it's an 8-core 16-thread processor. There's the 1700X, which is 3.4 to 3.8, if I recall correctly. And then there's the – did I say X that time? You did. Okay. Then there's the 1700 non-X. And that toss out at like 3.7, I believe. Yeah. So that one's like 3 to 3.7. They're priced anywhere from $499 down to $399 down to $329. So what's really cool about this is that AMD has taken 8 threads – or 8 cores, 16 threads, and gone, you know what? This is worth $500 tops, and you can have this for as little as Intel was asking for a 7700K, which is 4 cores, 16 threads, and on-board graphics. Well, and we can discuss that a little bit later as well, actually. And yeah, I mean, it's got support for DDR4, 24 PCIe lanes, which is smack in the middle of Intel's high-end platform and Intel's low-end platform, their mainstream platform. And performance looks really, really impressive. Now, to be clear, there are some things that – apparently I misspoke on something. Obviously, when I was talking about the Intel chip, I meant 4 cores, 8 threads, okay? Chill. I misspoke on something else recently, and people were like, whoo! Oh, everyone would get their pitchforks out already, yeah. Anyway, so you are actually making some tradeoffs. Let's say that Ryzen's performance per clock, per core, was identical to Intel Broadwell or Skylake or Kabylake or whatever the case may be. I haven't personally tested it, so I can't break an embargo for information I don't have. Let's say, for example, it was identical. You are still making some tradeoffs. Intel does have exclusive technologies. They have Thunderbolt 3. They have the upcoming Optane, which I don't know really a whole lot about. John has done a fair bit of research. Actually, you have done a fair bit of research. Do you want to talk about – let's Optane in a nutshell. TLDR, extremely fast SSDs, like quite a bit faster than PCI Express M.2. Okay. Yeah, cool. Should we talk more about that? No, that's fine. So Intel does have exclusive technologies. They do potentially have optimizations and functional units available in their CPUs that AMD might not have. So a perfect example of that would be the onboard GPU. So that GPU can do things like one of the demos that AMD has been running to show how more cores can benefit real users today has been gaming, playing Dota 2, while streaming. And they've demonstrated that a 7700K gets absolutely butt-wracked by that scenario, dropping something like 20% of the frames while the game streams. Yeah, pretty significant, like 15 to 20%. However, what AMD conveniently doesn't demonstrate is that you could stream using Intel QuickSync video, in which case you would be offloading that encoding task to the onboard GPU. Now, the argument AMD makes is that at the kinds of bitrates that you're able to use when you're streaming to Twitch, so typically around 3500 kilobit per second, it is very important to have the cleanest possible source, because any blocking or artifacting that exists in the original source at that kind of a bitrate at 1080p60 or like 900p60, which is, again, fairly typical for Twitch, is exacerbated. It is made much worse by the low bitrate stream over Twitch's service. So they make the argument that more cores is, in this case, more important than having that fixed-function video encoder. So there you go. Basically, the fight that's coming is pretty interesting. AMD is saying, you know what, forget about it with some of this other stuff, that we're going high-performance CPU. I mean, that was right on Dr. Sue's deck. And Intel has taken a completely different strategy over the last few years, increasing their per-core performance and their core counts on the mainstream, basically not at all in several generations, and adding more and more GPU performance in that iGPU. I forget where I was going with this. A little different than how it used to be almost opposite, because you had AMD with the APUs, and then you had Intel, who was running circles around them in terms of things like IPC, and now it's seemingly flipping a little bit with what they're focusing on. Now it looks very interesting, where Intel is all of a sudden the APU company. With that said, when we showed Ryzen off back at CES, I have to be really careful while I'm talking to not say things that are embargoed. So I'm trying to remember when I learned things and whether they're embargoed or not. So you'll remember this from CES. APUs are also coming to the AM4 platform. In fact, most AM4 boards have video outputs on the back, even though none of the Ryzen 7 CPUs have any onboard graphics. So those will just be dead ports in that case. Well, will they be? Are they integrating any kind of... Back in the day, they would somehow have little iGPUs that sat directly on the motherboard. I'm guessing they're not doing this anymore. They're not doing that. It's either on the CPU, or APU as it were, or it is not in the computer. So that's kind of the summary. AMD and the demos look really impressive. There were more demos than what I showed in my video, and if you watch some other people's coverage, they might have focused on different demos. But I was incredibly impressed with the amount of progress that AMD has made over the last four years that Zen Core has been in development. Now, with that set... Oh, you know what? Okay, no, no, no. I want to straw pull this. I want to straw pull this. I want to get your take on this. Okay. And I'm going to straw pull it before I ask you, because someone has pointed out to me in the past that it is a huge problem to issue a straw pull to the audience. And then say, oh, here's what we think, and then it skews the poll. And say what we think first. Yeah, okay. So AMD Ryzen, does this mark a return to competition? Yes? No. How are we defining competition? Like a certain percentage of the market or a certain... I don't think we are... I don't think we're going to try to define it in black and white necessarily. I just want to know, in the minds of the viewers, do you feel like we're getting back to a time when there is competition in the CPU market, and where you don't feel like Intel is just doing whatever they want as long as they want or as short as they want, and we all just kind of have to suck it up, princess. So while the results roll in, why don't you go ahead and share your thoughts? So what do we know about performance levels, like single-threaded performance? Because I've heard rumors, and you have probably learned new information since I've heard this. I'm not sure how much you can say, but I've heard, oh, so it's going to be similar to what Intel had with Broadwell. And Broadwell is a couple generations old now by this point. But at the same time, if you look at how most users, and even a lot of enthusiasts, are using their rigs, they'd be hard-pressed to tell the difference between Broadwell and Kaby Lake in the day-to-day. So maybe assume, okay, AMD is not going to take a huge hit because users want more raw single-threaded performance. Assume that doesn't happen. So I looked the other night on Amazon, and Ryzen's already like number one selling CPU. Now, granted, not everyone's going out and buying CPU in the box. The vast majority of people, they're buying pre-builds, they're buying laptops, whatever. But nevertheless, it did make it up to the top of the best-selling charts. Okay, so you're looking at, okay, so it's 2017 now, and we have more and more things that can take advantage of multiple cores. Not everything, obviously. But it's a better situation than it was four or five years ago when Intel said, look, six cores and more, that's enthusiast. Exactly. So we're getting to the point now where those sorts of things that can leverage that stuff is becoming better optimized, has become a little bit more mainstream, and you have a chip here that is eight cores and reportedly 16 threads. We kind of had a discussion about this earlier. Yes, eight cores, 16 threads, and this is, we're not talking bulldozer here, where AMD was like, yes, we have eight cores, but actually they have four compute modules which share some resources. These are eight cores. They show die shots. There we go, yeah. These are eight cores. So we have eight actual independent cores that aren't sharing resources, as Alliance just said. With SMT. And you have this. You can get a 3.7 gigahertz chip with this architecture, and yes, you miss out on some of the Intel platform-exclusive features, but if we're just talking about performance here, $330 bucks US as opposed to the equivalent chip is about $1,000 from Intel. So depending how you measure it, and that's something that we have to be really careful as the press, That's true, yeah. And users have to be really careful about as well. We need to make sure that we understand that there are going to be situations where 7700K is going to kick a rise in 1700s, but... And there are also platform features that you would be getting with Intel. I mean, what's the, it's 40 to 24 as far as the PCI express link situation. So, are my numbers right there? On the 7700K, it's 20 to 24. Oh, no, I'm not talking about the same thing. I'm talking about like, because the 7700K is not 8-core, I'm talking about Intel's Skylake, or, oh, it's not Skylake, but a Broadwell E. Broadwell E, yes. So in that case, again, so we have to be really careful when we compare to the 7700K, which has a much higher clock speed, and will therefore deliver better performance in some applications that are really clock speed, or like individual core performance dependent, like some games. So we've got to be careful about that comparison. We can't say the 1700 is hands down better, even if it absolutely spanks it in content creation benchmarks, for example. And then we have to be really careful, again, saying, okay, the 1800X is equivalent to a 6900K. Because like John was saying, if you have, if heavy expansion is a priority for your system... Then they're not going to be equivalent. Then they're not equivalent, because 24 PCIe lanes is not 40 PCIe lanes. 24 is clearly a lower number than 40. Yes. So AMD made a bet here. They put down their bet, and they kind of went, we think that instead of taking Intel on head on in the high end desktop, so that's the architecture E, so HEDT is the 40 core platform, LGA 2011. And rather than taking Intel on head on on their mainstream platform, we're going to go, we think consumers, enthusiast consumers and consumers in general want something kind of in between, because it would have been more expensive to have more PCIe lanes. It would have been more expensive to have triple or quad channel memory. AMD went dual channel memory. But they did spend a little more than Intel, because they went and they threw more cores at the problem. So there's a more complex interconnect at play, obviously, here. So that was the bet that AMD made. And there are, I mean, you know, this is not a sales pitch for running out and buying a Kaby Lake processor, to be very clear, but there are other exclusive things on Intel as well. For example, Netflix at 4K. Yeah, you have to have Kaby Lake or Neural whenever their new chips come out. But I mean, that's something that doesn't favor Intel necessarily even that much anyway, because the high end desktop, like the $1,000 $1,700 processor, they don't have that anyway. No way. So, OK, let's bring up the results of the straw poll here. Actually, you have to bring it up. It's whopping Lee. OK, so here's what we're going to do. I have to actually type in the straw poll address here. So bear with me for just a moment while Linus cackles at me. I don't know what's wrong with my HDMI out. I'm sorry. One, two, four. I'm sorry, everybody. And I don't know why John doesn't get signed into his thing at some point here while we're talking. I'm just trying to be expeditious. I don't know. OK, there we go. Cool. Ninety one percent say yes. That's good. I mean, OK, to be clear, this is not the stock market. And, you know, consumer sentiment does not dictate how things are going necessarily to that kind of a degree. I mean, but this kind of confidence is great to see and really encouraging, which brings us then finally back to that article that we're going to bring up before. Rumors are apparently already surfacing. And this is I'm not trying to pick on AMD here. This always happens, whether it's an errata or whether it's like, you know, some, you know, oh, oh, perfect example. Like what kind of thermal interface material is getting used between the dye and the integrated heat spreader. There's always some scandal. Every CPU launch, green or red team, there's a scandal. But it looks like Ryzen DDR4 memory might not be operating at the kinds of speeds that folks might have expected. So long story short, apparently, Ryzen is having some issues running four sticks of RAM, especially while running high speeds of RAM. So it's recommended to only run RAM sticks at max of around 2400 megahertz if running with four sticks. However, it is possible to run two sticks with a max speed of 3200 megahertz. Mega megahertz? Megahertz. Apparently, this is all according to one forum post, though. And since we don't have a chip yet, we have absolutely no comments to make on this subject whatsoever. Other than to say, yeah, that doesn't really surprise me. It may or may not be true. If you're having problems with your brand new Ryzen rig, you might want to try turning down your memory speeds just in case. So there you go. Just see if that helps you out a little bit there. All right. We've got... Disney's thing. What's coming up next? Oh, yeah, let's do Disney's thing. We were going to talk about that and then we ran into some slight problems. All right. So the original, this was posted on the forum by... Let's just go find out. I don't know. I've got it here. I still don't know. By HeyYo. Cool. And the original article here is from Mashable. Let's go ahead and pull that up for you guys. Oh, I actually have it up from ours, but... Oh, ours. Okay, that's fine. But it's basically the same thing. I love ours, too. Disney Research has achieved room scale, which is pretty freaking cool. Let me just say it still. There we go. It looks like that. Room scale, ubiquitous, wireless power delivery. Now to be very clear, wireless power delivery has been a thing for a long time. But unless we go back to secrets that apparently died with Nikola Tesla, it's had some limitations. So some of the ways that they can do wireless power are with magnets. And that's where the induction charging that probably exists on your smartphone, if you aren't an Apple user, that's where that comes from. Or if you are an Apple user, it might exist on your watch. So some of it involves magnets. So changing magnetic field causes something... It causes a current to flow. Thank you. Other options involve microwaves. So with a beam, you can actually use microwaves to send power remotely. However, that is, while possible and actually works, super hazardous. And that's a big problem. Have you seen the videos? There was a channel, I forget the guy's name, but there's a channel of a guy from the Ukraine, I think. And he took the Magatron out of a microwave and he stuck a tin can on top of it and pointed it at a boombox, and the boombox exploded. Wow. Yeah, so some pretty serious stuff here. No, no, that wasn't what I was surprised by. I was surprised by you calling it the Ukraine. You're usually the king of geography. It's Ukraine. Yeah, they took out the the a long time ago. No, I beat John at something. Just because I use a slightly antiquated term for a country that's not even really incorrect. I gotta take the victories I can get, okay? Okay, very good. All right. So the concept here, this is really cool. This is like next level stuff. You walk into the room with a smartphone in your pocket and it starts charging. Boom. So researchers actually built a freestanding living room with aluminum panels covering the walls, floor, and ceiling. In the center of the room, a two-inch copper pipe runs vertically from floor to ceiling. Electric current runs down through the pipe into the floor and up the walls, looping it, get this, 1.3 million times per second, 1.3 megahertz. Sounds less impressive when you put it in the context of like, you know, CPUs. Yeah, except it's not the same kind of hertz. But trust me, it's a lot. It's a lot and this is cool. The looping electricity creates a room-filling magnetic field running in a circular pattern perpendicular to the pole. So no humans can stand within 46 centimeters. That's about a foot and a half for American viewers. Yeah. Of the copper pole because your body will absorb dangerous amounts of energy. But the researchers say it is safe to transmit 1.9 kilowatts of electricity, enough to power up to 320 USB-powered devices. I can see Pella's brain exploding. So Pella's, just to put this in the appropriate context, Pella's mom is a researcher on the effects of EMF on humans. And it is her belief that we are underestimating, and I'm putting this fairly mildly, but it is her belief that we are underestimating the effects of all the waves and bullcrap that are going on around us. And I get the feeling that she probably wouldn't want to live on a block that has one of these on it. Do I get that right, Pella? He's nodding. I don't want to live in a city that has one of these in it. I'm getting the head shake. Honestly, you know what's really interesting about this is that I think we're finally getting to the point where I'm right up there with the guys that are like, look, if you can't prove that it's causing a problem, it's probably fine. It's a magnet. We're surrounded by magnets and crap anyway. I mean, there's hippie morons out there that wear them because they think that it will channel their chi or whatever. They didn't die, so it's probably fine. I usually kind of take that approach. Go ahead, put an implant in my eye that helps me see better. To my knowledge, there's never been any study that actually suggests that things like EM interference is actually hazardous or cancer causing or anything. I mean, yeah, if you get bombarded with gamma rays or something, that's a little bit different. But I'm talking about electronics. But this makes me a little uncomfortable. We'll just don't stand less than 1.5 feet from it. Right. But this 46-centimeter thing, it's not like a microwave oven. Where we go, yeah, that stuff's dangerous. Yeah, like you shouldn't do this. You put your head in there and it's a big problem, but it's okay. We put a Faraday cage around it where we have the Faraday cage. This is a well-understood thing and it's fine. And here we're saying, yeah, it's fine. Don't get too close. How close is too close? Well, this, I guess. And you know what? I'm sure there's science to back this up. I'm sure it's, you know, and I'm sure Twitch chat is full of people raging at me because Disney has already demonstrated that beyond exactly 46 centimeters, you know, it fades away into the background radiation of which there is lots. I know. But it's like a foot and a half, it's dangerous. Beyond that, don't worry about it. 1.9 kilowatts of electricity, don't worry about it. I see them refining this to the point where they'll deploy it at like their theme parks and stuff. And if it actually, you know, would cause a problem, there'd be so many lawsuits. So I feel like they would probably be pretty careful with it. So you think in the interest of protecting themselves from lawsuits, bearing in mind, of course, that, you know, lawsuits didn't result in the tobacco industry having to pay for, you know, the entire world's lung cancer treatments, like... Yes? With that in mind, do you think Disney is exposing themselves any more than, let's say, tobacco? Big tobacco did. Wow, that's like a law school exam question. So what's your actual question? Okay, okay. You flush it out a little bit more. Sure, I'll flush it out. So you say Disney would research it fully to avoid exposing themselves to potential lawsuits because people are walking around in their park and getting, you know, ass cancer or whatever the case may be. I like how that's now the second, like, butt anatomy reference we've already made on WAN Show. Oh, I can do more than that. Oh, I know, I know. You should see how many I can fit in there. I work with this guy 40 hours a week, so there you go. Anyway. Sorry. Okay, but what I'm asking is are they really exposing themselves any more than previous, what's it called, precedent? Okay. Like, then we already have precedent for these companies not ultimately ending up being responsible for giving people cancer. I mean, okay, if they get to the point where, okay, we know this is safe, and the reason I even bring that out in the first place is because, oh, you know, if you go to, like, Disney World or something, they give you the little, they call them magic bands, you wear them here, and it's got, like, an RF chip in it, and they're like, oh, you don't even have to carry your wallet around with you unless you want to buy alcohol or something because you can just do, you tap into everything and it works, right? Right. So I can see them deploying wireless power, like, let's say, a theme park to do something with those or to make their rides cooler so they don't have to run wires or something like that. But, yeah, but regardless of what they use it for, if they're going to do something like that, you know, if they, if there's a real danger, they would obviously have to, like, disclose it, and they wouldn't do that because if they say, oh, by the way, if you walk into our parks, we're testing this new thing out, it's probably going to be pretty cool, but you also might get ballsack cancer or something, and that would be very bad. So, so, and even if they warn people, everyone's just going to be like, yeah, let's not go there. So, so, you know, I can't see them using this in, like, a very, you know, risky manner. Okay, so the basic argument being made here is that consumers were complicit in giving themselves cancer because by the time the dangers had been proven, there was a warning label on the box, and they're ultimately buying cancer, so that's their problem. Whereas if they walk into a theme park with the assumption that there's magic cell phone charging, not realizing that there's any, any danger, that Disney would be exposing themselves if they hadn't done appropriate due diligence at the very least. So, it's all the assumption of the risk, and it varies really wildly depending on exactly what situation you're talking about. I'm actually not down on my history because, you know, I was born in 87, and I'm so, I'm not sure exactly. I'm not a smoker, so I don't know exactly when they started putting the warnings in all the cigarette boxes that said, yo, this might kill you. It was like how, you know, when they first invented Coca-Cola, they had cocaine in it back in, like, 1910s or something, and they had no idea, like, how bad cocaine was for people. So, I'm not exactly sure about that, but like at the same time, I think there is, you know, the average reasonable person, as we say in law, if they walk into Disney World because they want to go meet Mickey Mouse and ride Space Mountain, I think there's a reasonable expectation that that will not give me cancer. Right? There you go. Special cancer, Mickey. Yeah, as opposed to inhaling smoke, and lighting things on fire and inhaling smoke, which I think is just obviously inherently more dangerous, so. Than meeting Mickey. Unless you have like a- Depending where you're meeting Mickey. Unless you have like a crippling psychological fear of like furries or something. If you're meeting Mickey in the back alley, that's probably inherently as dangerous as inhaling burning plants. Yeah, that's really not safe. No meeting Mickey in the alleyways off of International Drive in Orlando. Please do not do that. Okay. That's a good idea. The article here is from Kotaku, the Switch will not have a Virtual Console at launch. And this is a statement from Nintendo. Virtual Console games will not be available on Nintendo Switch at launch. We will share more information in the future. So Virtual Console, for those of you not familiar, is Nintendo's emulation service, which allows the Switch to play games from the NES up through the GameCube. It will likely become a major part, here's the original article here from, where's it from again? Kotaku, right. It will likely become a major part of the console's new paid-for online subscription, which will offer NES and SNES games each month. The delay in Virtual Console support likely means we'll also be waiting longer for Nintendo's plans on whether discounts will be offered on games previously bought for other platforms. So this is kind of a bummer in a wide variety of different ways. So NES and SNES games each month, does this mean they'll have like a rotating selection of titles and they'll only be available for so long and then after that you can't play anymore? Or am I understanding that? I hate to say this, but I don't know. I think we've discussed this previously and Luke knows the answer, but I'm sorry I don't remember. I'm sure Twitch chat is going to pipe up and let you know anyway. I'll keep an eye on it. But basically I understand what's going on here. This is an entirely new architecture, so it's not like Nintendo could just be like, oh, well let's just take the emulation software we were already using and let's just run it on the Switch. Not that simple. This is a completely new device. So I get what happened there, but it's like super balls because Nintendo is doing their thing where, like I don't even know why it made headlines that Nintendo was allowing you to carry virtual console purchases forward from Wii to Wii U. Because I mean it half made headlines because of the ass backwards way that they did it where you like had to deactivate your Wii and then put it on your Wii U instead of just having it be account based. Anyway, the point is now, I mean we don't even know if we're going to get a discount on games we previously bought, let alone still have them and be able to carry them forward. And number two is that this even further damages the game library of the Switch. It doesn't even have a virtual console this time. And it's also funny because let's say someone is waiting for the Switch and maybe they're tired of their Wii or they sold it or whatever and they want to play an older game, guess what they're going to do? There's a chance that they'll pirate it and this is a company that's extremely protective of its IP so there might be more problems with that which Nintendo was ultimately going to be very upset about but because they didn't simply find a way to either port virtual console over or at least say, okay we're going to at least have something more available for you at launch. Alright, that was pretty much it for that wasn't it? Yeah. Okay, cool. Let's move on to the next topic then. Microsoft is testing underwater data centers. So the original article here is from spectrum.ieEE.org and I know that the whole concept of underwater data centers is not necessarily the newest thing ever but there's some new information and this was originally posted on the forum by Helpful Member. Actually I might be getting ahead of myself. It might be... Oh, Aluminium Tech. Okay, yes, Helpful Member. Aluminium. So basically there's some more information, new developments. 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You should know what you're outputting. You know what? In some cases, you don't. Some cameras, you select 2997P, and you won't get a signal out of them until you select 5994I, because that... There doesn't seem to be a compelling reason for it. That seems like a lot of rigmarole just to capture a video signal. Absolutely. And basically Epiphan makes it easy. So the AVI-O line is available in SDI, HD, so that's up to 1080p, and then 4K. So we've actually got all three of them. We've used them all on WAN Show for doing things like capturing... Gameplay footage....BIOSes. So let's say we were recording gameplay footage, and the computer blue-screened, rebooted into the BIOS. We had to adjust an overclock, and then we had to go back into Windows and launch the game again. Thanks to Epiphan, we can capture that entire process, because it'll just switch input resolutions as we go, and we don't lose that valuable experience that we're having, that we're trying to share with you guys in our videos. So absolutely loving it. Check them out at the link below, epiphan.com slash AVI-O slash WAN. We love these guys. Yes, they cost more than a cheapo capture card. But, pay for what you get. They don't cost more than two cheapo capture cards, which is what you might end up buying if you don't just buy something good in the first place. I speak from experience. Yeah. Alright. Um... So this is interesting. Ars Technica reports that Amazon is refusing to hand over data on whether their Alexa overheard a murder. Dun dun dun. Amazon said that because of the constitutional concerns at issue, the authorities need to demonstrate a compelling need for the information, and must exhaust other avenues to acquire that data. Even Alexa's answers are apparently protected by the First Amendment, which protects as speech the results produced by an internet search engine. So, wow, we've had so many legal topics today. This is great. Your thoughts, because I don't know. Well, again, Amazon is a huge company. I'm sure they could divorce some very good lawyers. But at the same time, I kind of raise my eyebrow a little bit, because I'm not sure about like the First Amendment here. This sounds to me a lot more like Fourth Amendment search and seizure. The Fourth Amendment is a piece of our Constitution that says, it says you can't search or see someone's property without a warrant, right? So this seems to fall a lot more into that. You know, I'm not exactly sure how the First Amendment comes into play here. There's a quote from the court motion, there we go, I'm looking at that is alleging that this could have a chilling effect on speech from users, so folks who buy an Alexa or buy like, what's the other product? I'm drawing a blank right now. Echo. Yeah, the Echo. Alexa or an Echo. From exercising their First Amendment rights to seek and receive information and expressive content in the privacy of their own home. Okay, so there is like a little bit of a concern there, but the more immediate one seems to be whether they can actually be compelled to turn the information over, which like I said, I feel like there's some other concerns, maybe like a search and seizure that would be brought up here, because it's a local police department in Arkansas that's actually asking for the data. Bentonville, that's where Walmart is headquartered. Right. So, fun fact. Of course you know that. All right. So, I'm not entirely sure about that, but it did make me raise my eyebrow a little bit. I'm also just intrigued, like if Alexa did in fact hear a murder or was present for a murder, like what exactly is being stored on their servers, like what Amazon actually knows about it. Yeah, I mean, at a certain point I have to kind of like, you know, for myself I have to kind of wonder whether there's a line between sort of legal obligation and just sort of moral obligation in this case. Like I personally as someone who was murdered would appreciate Amazon kind of, you know, helping me out on this. I don't know why my HDMI output isn't working. Well, I mean, at the end of the day this – I got you. I got you. At the end of the day this kind of comes back down to obviously Amazon's business, right? Because if this gets out and it's like, oh well, you know, the cops were able to get their hands on what my smart speaker from Amazon heard, then they may not buy smart speakers anymore. So there you go. Right. Fair enough. Okay. I could have done that, you know. This is amazeballs. The article here is from the Washington Post. And you guys have to check this out. Is this just a slideshow? It's pretty cool though. Or it's a video. I hope I don't get into too much trouble. But France is apparently training eagles. And I hope – yeah, there we go. Training eagles to snatch drones out of the skies to combat terrorism. Freaking awesome. Way to go, France. I'm down. You guys are amazing. So basically they train them from a very young age and they wanted a way to take down drones without shooting at them. So there you go. They train them from a very young age. They're hatched on top of drones to get used to feeding from them and practice drones have meat attached to them. This is amazing. So the military is designing leather and Kevlar mittens, an anti-blast material, to protect their talons. Wow. That's freaking awesome. I'm also surprised. Like if you hear the headline, Army trains eagle to attack drones, you would think it's the U.S. But it was France. I know, right? It's like, take that, America. France is going to – no, no, this one. Okay. Okay. Last topic for the day. GTX 1080 TI rumors. Nvidia will be holding a GTX gaming celebration event on February 28th, allegedly, just after AMD's capsaicin and cream event the same day. So the original article here is from overclock3d.net. I don't know any of this stuff. Nvidia states that this event is one that you don't want to miss, with many people speculating that the event will be used to launch new GPU hardware. How very interesting. All right. So last thing left for today is – oh yeah, hold on a second. There you go. So there you go. That is the rumor. Oh, I don't even know. Is that just Photoshopped? I think it's just a mock-up. That just looks Photoshopped. The TI kind of just looks shoved in there, so yeah. Yeah, I don't think that's a real one. No, no, no. This is pretty – okay. Anyway. There it is. Which leaves our last topic as Float Playing Club. For those of you who aren't familiar with Float Playing Club, in a nutshell, it's a super cool way to watch Linus Media Group videos one week early. We've actually got way more members than we were expecting to have at this point in the process. But I just want to tease you guys with what's going to be coming to Float Playing Club in the next week. No, not what's going to be coming to Float Playing Club. Sorry. What's going to be coming to YouTube, what is already available on Float Playing Club now. So starting on tomorrow – actually, it's going to be a heck of a week. So – right. Oh, right. No, no. What is already there? What is already there is – right. Apple AirPod alternatives. So we took for a spin a bunch of wireless earbuds that are a lot cheaper, or in some cases even more expensive than the Apple AirPods. Kind of determine is Apple really overpriced or is it just expensive. We've got Server Room Upgrade Vlog, Part 2 of 3. We've got our investigation into bulk thermal compounds. So we bought a kilogram of thermal compound and we find out is buying your thermal compound in bulk worth it. We've got Dell's Inspiron Gaming. So their new replacement for the Inspiron 90 whatever – Inspiron 15 whatever it was. So this time they're really calling it Inspiron Gaming and it's looking like a pretty cool little machine. We've got – that was a simultaneous release. We've got Server Room Upgrade Vlog, Part 3 of 3. Woo! And that's it. Yeah. So all of those are up on Float Playing Club right now and we've actually got Fastest Possible topics up there as well. We sure do. Which I can't find unfortunately right now, but if you know them off the top of your head that might be helpful. Well, we just pushed one out today on the Nintendo Switch. Push one out. Plopped one out today? Yeah. Oh. On the – we plopped out a video today if you would – if you would prefer that on the Nintendo Switch. Nintendo Switch as Fast as Possible now available on Float Playing Club. It's a pretty comprehensive yet pretty quick rundown of the new features you can expect on the Nintendo Switch. So you have that to look forward to on YouTube next week actually on Switch Launch Day. So – Cool. Oh, and did we mention DRM Free Downloads? Is that right for Float Playing Club? Yeah, DRM Free Downloads for Float Playing Club. So there's no ads, DRM Free Downloads, and Early Access. There we go. Alongside that we also got the Channel Super Fun release that came out to Float Playing. No one cares. With the – we threw some axes. It was wonderful. We threw some shade is what just got thrown. Oh! You get to see Dennis throw sharp objects. Yeah. So I mean how can you say no? So we linked where you guys can join up and we will see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. That's right. And hold on. Almost. And we'll see you again next week.