 Alright guys, welcome to the WAN show. We've got a bit of a... wait what? What? Is it my hair? Yes, no. Okay. Well, welcome to the WAN show guys. We have a fantastic show for you today. We're down in Seattle for PAX Prime and we're streaming out of a pedophile's basement. So, you know, it makes us feel pretty uncomfortable. But the fact that we're not young is really encouraging because, I mean, my understanding of the whole pedophile thing is that it has to do with animals and sock puppets and we don't own any animals or sock puppets because we are adults. I have animals. And sock puppets. And sock puppets. Okay, so this is a problem for me. Anyway, but seriously you guys, TimmyTechTV, so youtube.com slash TimmyTechTV. Timmy, come on over here. Not a pedophile. Not a pedophile? Yeah. I can... I'll go the way B-roll went. Alright. You should... I can come back here. Can you put that on your business cards? Definitely not a pedophile. Definitely not a pedophile. You know what's funny is Edzel or Diesel. So Edzel, Diesel has revealed his true name. What am I? Edzel? Yeah, so Edzel has revealed his true name on Twitter. So if you want to follow Edzel on Twitter, it's at Edzelyago. The business card he handed me when he came for his first day of internship actually said definitely not a serial killer on the back. And I was like, so one murder? Two? At what point do you cross over to serial killer? I don't know. Anyway, so Tim has generously allowed us to stay here, saving me probably around $3,000 on this trip. So all I gave him was a PAX Prime Pass. So, you know, hey, I think it worked out great for everyone. Especially me. So anyway, do you want to just pimp your channel for a little bit here and then we'll get on with the show? So obviously guys, I'm no Linus, but I do some YouTube unboxings and random videos of things that, you know, hopefully other people don't. YouTube.com slash TimmyTechTV. Check it out. Subscribe. Yeah, do subscribe. Subscribe. Do subscribe. Or you could hold out until he does another giveaway through our channel and you could subscribe now. Yeah. Or you could subscribe now. Go do it now. All right. So guys, we've got some great topics for you today. The Star Citizen requirements look freaking awesome. So good. Like this is we haven't seen this since. I don't know what like a title. Crisis One, I think, where they basically came out and said nothing will run this. Well, it used to be fairly consistent. When you went to go buy a new game, you flip it over and read the system requirements because you had to. Nvidia may release a GTX 790. We don't know. More rumors. More rumors. Battlefield 4 is apparently going to run at 720p on PS4. Whoa. Big surprise. So you can run it in the 720p-ness. Whoa. Enjoy all that 720p-ness. I mean, those console guys, they eat it up. That 720p-ness. We're running 1080p plus penises? Yeah, 1080p plus. Penis. No, there's no penis in it after that point. Why? Why are you going to bring penises into everything? So SSD overclocking could be a thing on upcoming Intel SSDs. That's the sort of word on the screen. Can we just jump into that one right away? No, we're not doing that right away because first we are going to run the intro. Whoa, what's that? That's actually the... Oh, okay. Well, that's not necessarily the correct ad integration right there. So we'll have to probably show you that again. Anyway, our sponsor for today is Hotspot Shield. So they have millions of users. They have... basically it's a VPN system that works on your desktop or it works on your mobile phone or your iPad or whatever else the case may be. It's useful for all kinds of things, whether it's circumventing regional restrictions for websites that, say for example, stream video and are US only or for masking your IP from people who don't want to have it. I mean, that masking IP-ness is definitely a big thing. And I wonder, is it okay to say that during a sponsorship spot? I don't know. But anyway, we're going to tell you more about it later on in the show. For now, let's jump into the topic that Slick really wants to get into for some reason. And I'm not really quite sure why. So I'm going to have to scroll all the way down because apparently he put the... Ah, yes, here we go. So this was posted on the Linus Tech Tips forum. I'm going to let you introduce it since apparently this is... Uh-oh. You have got to be kidding me. This was working before. So, yeah, we're going to go ahead and we're going to unplug that and then plug that back in. And we're going to hope that this works because... Uh-oh. So far, so far things have gone not too badly today. Well, actually they've gone terribly today. In fact, that could be a whole land show... Not very many things have gone well today....in and of itself, yeah, between your audio issues and our battery for that camera that ended up not working with it at all in spite of the fact that they're socket compatible. Just tweet it right now. Just tweet the articles. Go crazy. Okay, because this here should work right now. This was working like a minute ago. So, you know what? If I do this, there is a chance that it will just brick the whole thing. So we're going to tweet the articles, guys. So if you're following me on at Linus Tech on Twitter, Intel CPUs can overclock, but so can their SSDs. So this was submitted on the forum. Here we go. Tweeting......by Guas5373. So the original article is from Tech Power Up. And basically I think this is the most insane thing ever. So it could soon become possible to overclock the controller and NAND flash on your SSD if Intel has its way. The company is set to demonstrate how to overclock Intel-branded SSDs using its Extreme Tuning Utility at IDF 2013, which is going to be in September. Okay, so basically what they're saying is it's going to be just like any other overclocking where you're going to get a performance benefit, but there will also be potentially reliability issues as well. Stability. Stability issues. So 560 megabytes per second seems to be the practical maximum bandwidth, say, to 6 gigabit per second SSDs have been able to achieve. It can always be handy getting your SSD a few dozen more megabytes per second sequential speed at the expense of stability. That's insane. But you run 8 SSDs. I run 8 SSDs. That's already suicide. Why do you care? I run 8 SSDs in RAID 0 that haven't been... Which is suicide....that haven't been overclocked to be unstable. So while they could die, and while I am multiplying the chances of data failure by, well, a lot... It's a ton. Okay, because it actually, it's like the way it works is you actually have to multiply the chance of failure. Because you're adding that failure rate every time. Yes, but... It's a lot. But hold on a second, because at least those SSDs are known good. At least they're stable. So if someone takes 2 and overclocks them, you think that's insane. But if someone takes 8 and doesn't overclock them, you don't think that's insane. Yeah, because when you overclock them, they're running outside of spec. We already know that on a CPU, even if you... Okay, CPU, perfect example. So when you dial in an overclock, you dial it in and you leave it pretty much forever. Am I right? Okay. So we already know that when you dial in your overclock on your SSD, you're going to do it while there's no critical data on it, correct? In this situation, if you're overclocking SSDs, you're not going to put critical data on it. So your concept is you would put... So you would just take the risk that your OS would just break. Yeah. Because, okay, look, CPUs, the max overclock they can achieve... What critical data do you carry on your SSDs? None. Exactly. I have a 16 terabyte server. Most people have storage drives. Okay. If they're going to run RAID 0 SSDs, they probably have storage drives. Hold on. Save games. Do you have all your save games mapped somewhere else? Yes. Okay. Is average consumer able to do that? If they're running a storage drive, that's the easiest thing on the planet. Let's even say, not necessarily. Some games map your save like freaking all over the place. Like it's a nightmare. Steam doesn't remap most of them. No, it doesn't. It is usually going to documents. Usually. Almost always. Except when they don't. Almost always. Except when you go play that old retro game that you really wanted to play, and it goes and puts it in the program files folder. Which is in the Steam docs. And then your SSD overclock becomes unstable and you lose it, and now you have to play that old game that you wanted to play over again, just to get to the point where you were left off. I think it's insane. You don't mess around with storage. I install old games on my storage drives anyways. That's not the point. Okay. The average overclocker, look at the level to which overclocking has been dumbed down at this point. You press the button and it overclocks your computer. Just because someone is comfortable overclocking, doesn't mean they should be overclocking their storage. I don't think everyone should do this. I don't think it's a bad thing. I don't think anyone should do this. Would you overclock your SATA controller? I think it would be fun. I think it would be interesting. It would be interesting to just... Okay, remember, you have worked with some crazy errors. Like that stream machine? Okay, that's the kind of bullshit that happens when you have unstable storage. But the people that are overclocking every single thing inside their entire computer? It will be impossible to diagnose anything. Because their RAM will be overclocked, their CPU will be overclocked, their SSD will be overclocked, and you'll never know where the error came from. But those are the people that don't care and want to tinker with their computers and are expecting problems. They want their computer to be broken, basically. They're expecting problems. I wouldn't overclock storage on anything that wasn't... No, I just wouldn't do it. It's insane. I find this very surprising for the man that runs eight SSDs. Eight stable SSDs that work? I don't think it's going to throw them that unstable. Okay, you know what? Speaking of unstable, Star Citizen hardware requirements separate the men from the boys. Why is this unstable? It's not unstable. How is that a segue? Because I don't want to talk about that anymore. I should bring Josh in here. He doesn't want to talk about something. He just changes his subject. Alright, I'm tweeting this out. If I remember quickly, it's like 8 gigs of system RAM. So this was posted on the forum by... I gotta look this up. Lucio Se. So anyway, directly translated from Google Translate, this is awesome. So get this, guys. 8 gigs of RAM and 64-bit are a minimum. Bye-bye, 32-bit. Bye-bye. And you know what? Good riddance, too, because I don't see any reason why the game should be designed to only have to use enough memory so that it can run on 32-bit. You know what? No. Forget it. 64-bit, we've had three iterations of Windows OSes, and if we want to talk OSes that aren't Windows, it's been going on longer than that. That are 64-bit, and the processors have been around... I mean, any processor that's capable of running Star Citizen supports 64-bit. So if you were one of those people who bought Windows 7 32-bit... Like, sorry, dude. I was at a booth today. This won't take long. I was at a booth today, and I did my little intro explaining how we're hardware reviewers trying to get into the game stuff, all that, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he's like, oh, you'll love this. We made our game so it can work on everything. I was like, uh... Did you slap him? I was like, uh, we'll just talk about the game. Let's just talk about the game. So anyway, 8 gigs of RAM minimum. Now, get this. For optimal settings, you'll need a high-end PC with the technology in 1.5 years. Love it. We haven't seen this since Crisis, where they basically came out... or Far Cry. I mean, Far Cry 1 was a great example of this. If you had a 9800 Pro or an X1800XT or whatever was the high-end card at the time, Far Cry was like, yeah, we don't care, yeah, we don't care, because whatever. Because we don't care. I love it. Because how much fun is it? Because you know what? The temptation... Okay, here. Something you would never have the discipline to do would be to play through a game at low details and then go back and experience it again two years later with everything maxed. If you could max it now, you'd max it now. I think it improves replayability to have the game continue to look better. I've done that. I've done it? I've done it, yeah. I've absolutely done it. I mean, I couldn't run Half-Life 2 at max settings when I first played it. I can't remember what game, but I knew I've done it at least once. So I think it's outstanding. So they're saying... Something along the... Okay, so it'll run fluently with maybe a future GTX 880 or 890, and they're saying something like a GTX 770 would be expected to be adequate for only medium settings. So a last-generation top-tier card like a 680, which is about equivalent, medium. Go, Chris Roberts! You're awesome, man. That's so cool. You and everything that happens that's anything to do with you and all that. All right. So our next article, we're trying to burn through these because Slick's got to get to the BYOC and I got to drive him there, so... He's going to get me to the last 10 minutes. Yeah. Wait, what? They kick you out after? At 12, yeah. It's not all night? No. Oh, I assumed that it was like you just couldn't get in and out. It's in the convention center. They can't have people overnight. Oh, well, that's unfortunate. I'm sorry. It's okay. Oh. Okay. So I'm tweeting this article. Yeah, I totally misunderstood how that worked. I thought we were going to like squeeze you under the door Indiana Jones style, and that was going to go really well. So The Verge published an article, Google blocks Chromecast app that lets you stream your own videos, and there's an update. Now, I'll let you cover this one because you... Basically, everyone freaked out because Google Chrome, or not Google Chrome, Chromecast was not allowing people to stream their own local content. Let's see if he can keep his train of thought if I do this the whole time. It was absolutely ridiculous. And then Google comes out and is like, actually it's just not working yet. So we're blocking it because it's super buggy, but it'll be available later. Which is kind of like... It goes to show you like, here's the problem with the way that the media works right now. And you know what? We're as guilty of it as I think almost anyone out there. We've done it with at least one or two things. We've done it with at least one or two things. And the problem is that there's not many actual sources of information because so much of it is coming from social or coming from sort of like a few sort of, I don't know, are they trustworthy? Are they not? Like there's not much actual like investigative journalism being done these days, but there's an awful lot of content gatherers. So sites like Reddit are great for spreading things, but they don't really generate much. And that's not to say Reddit doesn't generate anything, but again, it's user generated. So the problem is that when something gets reported, often very little fact checking is done, and it just goes everywhere. Explodes. So everyone thought this was a big thing and they're all trying to stop you from playing your local content, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And in the end it's just like, no, it was buggy. So they disabled it so you wouldn't screw things up. Yeah. It's like, okay. It's not really a problem. I'm not going to worry about this too much. It kind of sucks for now, but like it's Google. They'll fix it. I'm not too worried. With that said, this could be the most interesting thing I've seen out of Google in a while. I mean, this is the kind of thing that really takes the, I'm holding up an iPhone, so this is a bad example, but this is one of those things that really takes the phone experience and really enhances it in a way that five years from now, people won't even think about that this was never an option. All the new patent. Yes. This is pretty cool. Their new patent allows you to change security settings for your phone based on your location. So it's taking that location data and allowing your phone to adapt to where you are. So for example, you could be at home and instead of requiring a passcode, you could just swipe it. So like here's a scenario. My iPhone 4, I have set up to wipe the phone if more than five failed attempts are entered in it. My baby picks up my iPhone 4. I'm getting the nod from Tim over there because yeah, he's got kids, he knows. So my baby will pick it up and start mashing at it. He knows where the lock button is. He knows what's up. And he's like, you know, mashing at it. And I'm like, I run over, I'm like, no, because I haven't backed it up in a few days. Please don't do that. Whereas this would allow it if I'm not out and about, he could just swipe it open. But I could still have the security if I leave my phone on the SkyTrain or something along those lines. And I mean, there's other possibilities here too. Like what if I could say allow applications to access my location data as long as I'm not 10 kilometers from home? So I could have my tweets track my location as long as I'm not somewhere where I don't want people to know about. Which is, that's a thing. It's a really big thing. Or like geo-tagging photos. You know what? Don't take the stuff that's at home. Yeah. Tag the stuff when I'm like outside of excellent. I mean, how cool is that? Even just your like small little area, like where you go shopping and home and that kind of stuff like that. Don't geo-tag that. Exactly. But then once you're out in the city or out wherever. Like I'm going to sound like a noob here, but do you remember when I caused some trouble for myself by tweeting a photo through a third party app and not Twitter that I had taken on my phone and it still had all of the metadata on it, including the exact coordinates of where I took it. I didn't realize that that was just going to be there and the app wouldn't automatically pull it out if I told it my privacy settings, I don't want my location shown. Didn't even think about it. But stuff like this you shouldn't have to think about. Will my mother think of that? No, she's going to, no one is even going to tell her. Most, most, mass majority of people don't know that pictures can store location data. Mass amount of people. So this could be the solution. I mean, I kind of hate that Google's patenting it, or I hope that they license it for, you know, a penny or less than a penny or something. Like I really hope that this is something that becomes completely widespread, but either way, it's really, it's a really cool idea. And I'm really happy about it. Um, let's talk Bethesda. Did you go to their booth today? I have been avoiding it. You've been avoiding it? Because I need to get work done. Okay, fair enough. I will be going though. Okay, you're going to cover that booth, right? Yes. Yeah, because I mean, I'd... So here, let's talk about this. Bethesda is pushing to drop Xbox Live Gold fee for Elder Scrolls Online players. I'm going to preface this, it won't happen. It's not going to happen. Other companies have tried it, it didn't work for them. It's not going to work for Bethesda. But the idea is that they're saying it doesn't have to go through their servers at all, apparently. Like Microsoft servers, that is. So what they're claiming is that if it doesn't have to use any of that, it should be free for the players. And they don't want to, they don't want to give them any of the gold services. They don't want any of the gold services to be working. They don't want them to have access to market, or whatever. I don't know what the actual new gold services are, but they want it to be able to bypass that completely and have it all connect directly to their own servers. I don't think it's going to happen. I can't remember what the other company that tried to do it was. But they've already told Bethesda. They're like, yeah, it didn't work for us because if they did it for us, they'd have to do it for everyone. And it probably won't work for you, because if they did it for you, they'd have to do it for everyone. And they really would. I mean, it's one of those things where, you know, Bethesda, however much weight they might feel like they have to pull around, you know, if they did it for Bethesda, Valve's going to be like, yeah, yo, what's up? Blizzard's going to be like, yo. And all of a sudden, you know, Activision, Blizzard Activision, right? So like everyone is going to, you know, Call of Duty's not going to require it, and Diablo 3's not going to require it, and all of a sudden what's going to be the benefit of an Xbox Live Gold membership? Nothing, because you'll be able to play multiplayer for everything. And you know what? The fact of the matter is, especially with anything that's a PC port, these developers are going to have their own server infrastructure anyway. Just to play devil's advocate, actually, no, I do agree with this. With console players, like one big thing is Steam. You can add games to it, so people can see your Steam presence in other games, like playing them that aren't even in Steam. So I have added StarCraft 2 to my Steam. So when I go in StarCraft 2, Xbox Live subscriptions, you can see people in multiple games and talk with them that way. If you didn't have an Xbox Live subscription, you wouldn't be able to do that. So if they're bypassing Xbox servers, you wouldn't be able to do that. Okay. So? That's just a value that it has. It's a value that it has, but it's a value that, I mean, I wish that Xbox was a more open platform like PC, so someone could just come along and build XFire or a Steam type of... But it's a console, so it won't happen. But it's a console, so it won't happen. So all of this is just... None of this will happen. None of it will happen, but, you know, they tried. This was posted on the Linus Tech Tips forum by Top War Gamers, so thank you very much for posting that. Although I'd prefer if you fleshed it out a little bit more next time, man. It's like a one-liner. I guess it could technically... It hasn't happened yet, but like... No, it's not going to happen. I will bet money. Okay, so... I would too. Yeah, how much money should we bet? I don't know. I'll pony up five bucks. Is this legal? I... ooh, I don't know. Okay, moving right along. Speaking of my son playing around with my cell phone, one in ten five-year-olds apparently has a mobile phone. Will your five-year-old get a mobile phone? No. But you know what? The reality of it is, things are changing so much and so quickly that I can say that now, but for all I know, maybe you will. I don't know. But at the same... I think it would be more... I read into this article, and one big thing is that a lot of them were using the phone and the data on the phone more than their parents were. Okay. If I was giving a phone to a five-year-old, I would want to give a flip phone so they can have contact. Okay, hold on. Why don't we take a step back? So, hold on. So the whole thing here, I'm going to tweet this out so you guys can follow along with us here because I can't show you things on my screen because we can never have a WAN show that doesn't have any issues because that's how we roll, suckas. That's how we roll, suckas. So this was posted by ETRJ on the forum. That guy keeps changing his image so I can never recognize him right away. You know? I think it's been there for a while. Yeah, for a little while, but before it was a different one and I think it was something else. I actually go by images for the user names. Oh, I do too. Yeah, I can't remember names, but I can remember faces so that translates. All right, so anyway, the whole thing is that more than one in ten of youngsters spends more than their mother or father on the phone, so only a quarter capped their youngsters' contracts while just 3% said they disabled data on the phones so they could only be used for making calls or sending text messages. So only 3% of these parents who are buying phones for 5-year-olds, so we can sort of agree that they're either ahead of their time or they're completely insane, one of the two, and there's a fine line. There's a really fine line. What could a 5-year-old need a phone for? At 5 years old, what, like, are you in school or kindergarten? You're in kindergarten. You're in kindergarten at 5. Here, okay, I'm going to pitch something as a parent. If I could install, and this actually ties in really well into the Boyfriend Tracker app, if I could install an app on their phone that I could know where they are and I could get an ETA for when they're going to be home from school, I could see them walking. I could see their last location, for example, which is a way that a lot of those apps work. So even if someone were to, you know, kidnap them and, you know, bail on the phone. You know where it probably happened. And you could, I mean, you can train your kids. Don't get in the car with someone or whatever else, but if someone snags them and you train your kid, yo, you keep that phone on you, you keep it turned on, but you keep it silent. Is that worth sort of the risk that they'll make a long distance call to Timbuktu and you'll pay a few bucks for? Can you even, like, disable long distance calling? You probably can. I mean, Android is so customizable. Would you consider giving your 5-year-old a phone if that's what it was for? This is the thing I was getting into is I would consider it, but see, my thing was the flip phone. Right. But that wouldn't have any GPS or anything. But what you just said makes a little bit more sense, but then you'd have to do stuff like restricting data limits, doing all that kind of stuff, because for GPS you don't need, like, anything. Right. So restrict data limits, like, super low and, like, full of blood. Yeah. If I just wanted to know where my kid is. And, like, use parental control. And the thing, too, though, is, I mean, guys, I'm not talking about this for 16-year-olds. No. By the time we're talking about older kids, it's a different story. One, they can pay for their own bloody phone if they want one. And number two is they kind of, they have their own minds and they have their own deal at that point. Whereas if I was looking at it going, okay, well, I've got my phone plan, which is what it is, an extra SIM might cost me nothing if I switch over to a family plan, and I have an old phone lying around, which by the time my kid's five will be four years from now. So, like, he'll be inheriting, like, NHTC-1, which will be chipped and scratched and cracked or whatever else by that point. But it'll be functional, you know. If it costs me nothing, what do I care? On the other hand, are we teaching our kids to be too dependent on electronics? Or are we enabling them to function in an increasingly electronic world? You can probably, there's probably something you can get for Android that blocks all numbers. And then have, like, and then put it on a specific allow list. Then you can allow, like, yours and your wife's. Oh, yeah, for sure that exists. I'm sure. For sure. 100%. You can allow, like, yours and your wife's and maybe, like, the kid's teacher. Right. And then that's it. And then you can only call and text those numbers. And then it's super restricted on data. Lock down YouTube. Lock down everything. Lock down everything. And just have it, like, the most lockdown thing ever so they don't really use it. I don't know. Like, I guess. I mean, if we were to talk about it in this kind of a use case scenario, maybe I don't have a problem with this. That makes a lot more sense. But I think this article is saying. I think it's more to do with, you know. No one's doing that. Yeah. Because 3% were disabling data and a quarter were capping the contracts. So, these are just kids. Like, little kids with, like. With smartphones. Smartphones. And I don't think they have the discipline at that age to go, oh, okay, that's enough of whatever free running game, temple run game of the week happens to be popular. But that's not even, like, you can't expect that out of a 5-foot. No, you can't at all. Yeah. Which is why people should be using. And, like, again, like you said, this isn't a 16-year-old thing. Yes. This is completely different. Totally different. Totally different thing. Take that track rap off. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But, like, yeah. You know what? I'm going to fire up Twitch chat here and I'm going to see what they have to say about it. Okay. Something, something. Don't buy $1,000 mobile phone for a child. Buy a bodyguard instead. Well, okay. But remember, what we were talking about was, like, more like them inheriting your old phone. The old throwaway phones or whatever. Someone says, what's the point of having a phone when most of the features are disabled? You must be, like, 14 because as someone who was alive and using phones when the only functionality they had was to be a phone, they're still useful. They're just not toys. They're just tools. But that's the point is we would be wanting to give the little one a tool. Yes. Not a toy. So it is a completely different thing. Someone says next topic. You know what? We will get to the next topic. In fact, we are ready for the next topic right now. So I'm trying to do some, guys, I don't know if we're going to be able to do Twitter Blitz today because of the screen sharing stuff, although maybe, maybe we can. So why don't we schedule a Twitter Blitz for after this next topic. We're actually doing pretty good burning through topics here. So the Boyfriend Tracker app gets nixed from Google Play. So this was, this was mostly your topic. So why don't you cover this? I'm going to tweet it out right now. I don't remember exactly where it was the worst, but I believe it was Brazil. Yeah. Where I think they got like 50,000 downloads in two months or something. Yeah, they're doing really good. And it just it kind of got pretty nuts. I don't know. So the way this app worked was that the boyfriend couldn't tell it was on the phone. So I think you only need temporary access to the phone so you can install it and then it runs silently and you can access it from another phone. I've kind of got a problem with any app that runs silently on my phone like that. Like if it doesn't even put an icon somewhere, that's a big problem. I'm not happy about that. I neither. But I mean, honestly, it probably wouldn't have gotten pulled if it was called the Child Tracker app because I think it was more of a marketing problem. So it's always that arms race, right? So there was another app that you could install that would detect if the Boyfriend Tracker app was. I mean, is this what we're moving towards, though? I guess. Would you allow a girlfriend to install a Boyfriend Tracker app on your phone if you knew it was there? Hmm. See, guys hit me on the Twitch chat. Actually, Twitter blitz. Twitter blitz. Would you allow your significant other with your permission to GPS track you? We're talking Harry Potter style. The clock showing where all the Weasleys are. Would you allow it? No, because of respect issues. Why? Because I feel like that's not respect. But you have nothing to hide. Yeah. Okay. But how can you not respect me enough to believe that I won't do anything? Would you say, you know what? If she completely and honestly came up to me and was like, I want to just I'm worried you're going into shady parts of Surrey lately. I want to make sure you don't get jumped. I'll be like, I'm fine. But if she insists, I'll be like, okay, whatever. But if it's more like, I don't trust you. I mean, yeah, no. Okay. So if it's a safety thing, you accept. So basically, if she lies to me and says a safety thing, then she'll be able to get it on my phone. So basically, so basically like the Patriot Act is okay with you. No. But hold on, because that's pretty much what it is. That's blowing it way out of proportion. Fear tactics. That's blowing it way out of proportion. It's the same thing. But it's not for me. It shouldn't matter why. But it's not for me. Are you okay with someone tracking where you are, regardless of the reason? It's not for me. I'm doing it so it helps her mind and it's a person that is not the government. It's my girl. That's completely blowing it out of proportion. I'm not okay at all with the Patriot Act. But that, I don't see the difference. You can't be like, you like fries, therefore you enjoy killing yourself because fries are bad for you. Okay, that is not actually the same thing. Okay, what about this? What if she said, she, you know, she just... I don't like the idea of it. Okay, okay, what if she was like, look, how about sometime in the next six months, can I just like do a spot check on you for a month and then I'll never ask again? And it would set me at ease. What if she's just an uneasy... So you just would not accept that. But if it was for safety? What if it was like a legitimate thing for safety and I could actually buy it? Ladies? Right. If you want to track him? But right now? No, because I don't go anywhere shady. You go to Surrey? No. What do you mean no? Yes you do. I don't go to Surrey. You go through... Oh, you don't go to Surrey. I don't go to Surrey. You've been to my house before. I live in Surrey. You should permanently have it installed. You've had a nicer part of Surrey. That's true. Alright, so let's... Is there a... Yeah, let's just not. Okay, so basically guys, we are going to... Wait, what? Okay, well we're going to align the Twitter window because apparently that's a thing. And it's in the way of my Twitch thing now, which is friggin' genius. So, let's go ahead and see if we can get... Oh man, and my wireless connection to my little wireless keyboard thing isn't very good, so it keeps glitching out to all balls. Alright, here we go. Oh, someone says you're talking kind of loud. I enjoyed the whispering because it makes like even... Oh, it's not even talking about me being sexy. Okay, well you whisper now. Well, hello everyone. Hi. How's it going? Welcome to the WAN Show. We're going to get deep into these topics tonight. Have you heard of performance issues on GTX 760? Sorry, that's off topic. No, unless I'm able to turn it on or off. That's a good point. What if she said, look, I want to know where you are, but you can manually turn it off whenever you want and it'll show your last location. I'd be fine with that because then if I did get into a sketchy situation, I'd just be like, boop. Okay, so you're okay with her... But what if she was like, look, I'd like you to keep your phone off. Or if she was like, look, I'd like you to keep it on for the most part. But turn it off if you ever want it off. No, because at that point... Because then you have to justify why you turned it off. I'm in a sketchy situation. Or I'm not in a sketchy situation. Okay. Okay. No, I wouldn't if... Yeah. Okay. Jacob says, wouldn't mind allowing it if she asked, but I wouldn't propose it. When someone asked, I'd ask why. She even mentions cheating. I'm gone, says David Lee. No, not at all. I should be able to live my own life. Hashtag killed my wife. Edward says, depends if I can track her too. Do you care if you can track... She says, look, let's track each other. If she has to... Let's join our souls together. Dear God. So that we always know where each other are. I just... It's funny because... Oh, this is going to sound bad. But you were small enough that it like... Felt right. I'm sorry. Felt so wrong, but it felt so right. Oh, dear God. Okay. So she says you can track her too. It doesn't make a difference. It doesn't make a difference to you. Okay. And I would put her on the same thing. Be like, if you're ever going somewhere sketchy, turn it off. Okay. If you're not somewhere sketchy, leave it off. Nick figures it's okay if it's both ways. Jason says, no, because that means she doesn't trust me and doesn't respect my privacy. Yeah. Yeah, I would. By the way, ladies, I'm available, says Cole. By the way, ladies. The one thing I think is you could do it as like a silent emergency thing. So if you turn it on and she starts getting GPS notifications from your phone, she knows something's wrong. Right. That makes a lot of sense. Other than that, no. Someone says I've never let an imaginary person track my movements. Wow. Can I get a hashtag forever alone over there? Forever alone. Seriously, wow. Geez. Only if she would keep a record so that I didn't have to write in my journal. Okay. I think we're going to move on to our next topic here. So EA catches flack over plants and zombies. This was actually submitted via Twitter by Joseph Chang. So I'm going to go ahead and tweet out a tweet. I guess I could just retweet it. Right? Lol. Your account may not be allowed to perform this action. Are you freaking kidding me? Come on, Twitter. Don't let me down. I've had a hard enough day already. We're going to tweet the URL to a tweet. My tweet was posted. So anyway, why don't you talk about this while I set up our... So the reviews for Plants vs. Zombies on mobile, I believe this was the Google Play Store. Yeah. So the Google Play Store reviews for Plants vs. Zombies are horrible. And if you're wondering why, it's because you have to buy the plants. And I can't remember exactly. I don't have the laptop in front of me. I think it was something like by the time you buy a few plants, it's like 20 bucks. I think it was like 3 bucks for the sunflower plant, which is pretty much required to play the game. Come on, EA. Did you not make enough money from Plants vs. Zombies? Was it not enough of a blatant cash-in to do Plants vs. Zombies 2? They have it at. Have you checked out the packs? Does it look different? It does. There's more units and stuff. Ugh. One thing that I saw was the sunflower thing looked like it had like a sunbeam thing, which is... Well, we're just talking pay-to-win. Like, honestly, you know, as evil as it is, I think Candy Crush Saga probably did it best, where you can play the game no matter what, the whole game, but if you want to get through faster. Have you played Candy Crush? No. Okay, so there's a timer on how often you can get new lives. So you get five at a time, and it peaks there, and then you gotta wait 20 minutes or whatever for a new life, and you can share. You can buy more. You can buy more, or you can gift them to each other on Facebook and stuff, and that doesn't cost anything. So it spreads the game, which is brilliant. It gets people to pay to play faster, because they're enjoying it, they're addicted to it, which is brilliant, and you can have the entire game experience. But it's not really needed. Because it's not needed. I'm surprisingly okay with that. Yeah, I'm down. I'm down. I mean, someone who is a total cheap person, like my wife, who won't pay any money for it, doesn't have to. We'll play her five games, and then that's it, and that's probably fine. We can team up with our coworkers at work, so they can all gift turns to each other. Do you get like gifted turns? Yeah. So you don't get them, but you can trade them off? You can do both. Okay. Yeah, I mean, it's great. Yeah, very cool. That's cool. But yeah, okay, like, this pairs in. I don't know if this... Is this a topic here where they're saying all of EA's major titles are going free to play? Yeah, I think we do have that topic. We might as well jump in. We might as well jump in there. Okay, guys, so this was a Linus Tech Tips forum topic as well. So it was submitted by Qwerty Warrior, just a smart-arse way of saying keyboard warrior, but I love it. But only in North America and other regions where they do not use the Azzurty or Qwerty or whatever the other things are. Anyway, so... Dvorak. Yeah. So this is on nextpowerup.com, and according to a recent interview with their Chief Operations Officer, Peter Moore... Epic interview....moving forward, all of Electronic Arts' major franchises would be embracing a free to play online business model. Right in the middle of a fairly normal interview just drops the biggest bomb. And it's funny because, you know what, they were on a roll there. They were. Two weeks, I think? Two weeks in a row. We had, like, touchy-feely... That means two weeks....self-hug, EA moments, and now they do this. So he basically said, we don't ship a game at EA that is offline. It just doesn't happen. Gamers... Gamers... I'm sorry. Massive it? I'm just quoting. This is a direct quote, man. Whatever. Anyway, it doesn't happen. Gamers want to be connected, so their stats and achievements reflect who they are. Yeah, stats and achievements. Yeah, there we go. Sure. So blah blah blah, something something, something, etc. etc. etc. More touted, their existing free-to-play efforts with their most successful games Battlefield and FIFA, I don't think he quite understands what free-to-play means. Because... Battlefield... they have Battlefield 3 or whatever. Okay. It's not Battlefield 3, I don't think. Yeah. It's like there's... Okay. So with their most successful... so I guess they're saying their most successful franchises. So... yeah. I don't necessarily think they're going to take Battlefield 4 or Battlefield 5 and make them free-to-play, but I guess they're going to look at monetizing older games this way. Yeah, I think they'll take older platforms and more... more little kind of scaled down platforms and make them free-to-play, and this might be a more major turn for the future as well. Maybe Battlefield 6 comes out fully free-to-play, who knows? Or something like that. I mean, I got to wonder at what point though, because I mean, free-to-play has worked so well because it was different, whereas I think that people will eventually wise up to that if they bought the MP5 in Battlefield 4 and they're buying it again in Battlefield 5 and again in Battlefield 6, that they've just given EA $16 for the same gun. A lot of people... the anger bubble is growing. The anger bubble is definitely growing over free-to-play. Speaking of anger bubbles, Nintendo 2DS. So this was a joystick article, I'm going to tweet this out. It looks like a kid's toy, which I guess it is, but it doesn't look like a very good kid's toy. I wouldn't buy it for my kid. My favorite thing was when I was looking at it, I was like, oh, that doesn't look very comfortable to hold. No. And then you see the kid playing and he's like, eh. And I'm like, yeah, that doesn't look comfortable to hold. That looks better. It really looks like Fisher Price and this wedge shape they're going for. You know, Sony tried a wedge shape for a tablet. It was a complete and utter failure. They were like, yeah, well, our concept is that we want it to feel like holding a book. If I wanted to feel like I was holding a book, I'd hold a book. If I wanted to feel like I was holding a doorstop, I'd hold a doorstop. I'd mod a screen into it. Or two. And it wouldn't be 3D. My thing is like, OK, release a costed down version. Release a costed down version that's a 2DS. OK, that's fine. That's what a lot of people have been asking for anyways. Add a freaking hinge. And I mean, the fact that one of the screens is smaller, like I understand the touchscreen really is a secondary screen. But when you look at the bomb cost for something like a phone, when you actually look at what these screens cost, how many pennies did they save? Like really pennies or even a dollar by doing it this way. And I mean, I understand that a dollar over 10 million units is now 10 million dollars. I get that. I really do. But OK, so it plays all 3DS and DS games, but in 2D, which I guess is sort of a step in the right direction. Yeah. To be honest. It's too bad that the device itself is 2D. Boom! Chhhhhh! Anyway. If it folded, I would actually be completely on the other side of the team. Like if you... Ha ha ha! So with that, I'm actually going to segue into, and I know this is going to be awkward because this is not Squarespace, so we have gone through quite a thing over the last little bit here. So we're going desktop. We're going this. We're going to our new sponsor for this week, which we're actually pretty excited about. So if you guys haven't heard of Hotspot Shield, it's basically either an app or a service, kind of depending on how you use it. It's definitely a service, but it's also an app available for mobile platforms that is a VPN. So if you're not familiar with what a VPN is, can you give sort of the networking explanation of what that means? It's... You're basically making it so everyone on the outside of your computer thinks that your computer is somewhere else. And is someone else. And is someone else. So basically, the implications for that is, if you don't want your activity logged by your ISP, you can use a VPN. If you don't want search providers and all this kind of stuff creating profiles for you, you can use a VPN. If you're behind a school firewall and you really need to get contact with your mom and you can't call her but you know she's on Facebook, you can use a VPN. There's a whole bunch of other use cases, but those are... I mean......not that came up with the Hotspot. I think one of the strongest use cases for it is getting around regional restrictions. I mean, as a Canadian, where really I feel like America's hat a lot of the time, and I'm like, yeah, I understand this is an American TV show. We want real Netflix, too. Right? You know, why am I getting the sort of like, Pablum edition of everything? And you know, I think something like South Park was one of the things that was most frustrating to me back when they used to stream it on, I guess it was Comedy Central. And all of a sudden there was this regional restriction, oh, sorry, we can't stream this in Canada. And I'm like, are you freaking kidding me? A VPN will get around that. So the way that their service works is I think there's a couple of different... There's a couple of different places where your VPN IP can come from. So it will appear as if your traffic is coming from somewhere other than where you're actually located. So I know that they can assign US ones very easily. So if you're someone in Australia or Canada or the UK and you want to get access to US IP services or US shows or anything like that, this can be a great way to do it. Something that they also advertise is that if you're on a mobile data plan, it only works on iOS right now, so something like an iPhone, it can actually compress web pages that you're downloading on the fly for you so that you actually effectively use less of your data. So because they are an intermediary for the connection, the website sends it to them, they go, oh, okay, this could be compressed a little bit. And then it goes, they beam that... I'm using the word beam. I sound like a politician. Beaming up, Scotty. Okay, so they tube it to your phone so your mobile carrier actually never sees that larger data set that the website would have served to you. So this is particularly useful if you're viewing full desktop versions of websites which can be full of all kinds of, you know, whether it's flash banners, which is less of a concern these days, but any kind of content that is going to be very data... I mean, you could load up a thread on the Linus Tech Tips forum with, you know, two meg massive pictures in it by accident, and it's like, oh, crap, right? So anyway, there you go, guys. Hotspot Shield, we do have an offer code for you guys, so you can save up to 20% off with the code LINUS. So definitely go check that out. The free version of the application is available. However, it definitely is pretty aggressive about prompting you to take advantage of the paid version. So if you do decide that you like the service, you can get a trial as well that is ad-free. So if you try that one out and you decide you like it, please do remember to use code LINUS, and you can save a few bucks on that. So thank you very much again to Hotspot Shield for sponsoring the WAN show here in our sort of haphazard setup that we've got going on here. And let's go ahead and move into our next topic. Speaking of sponsors for the WAN show, as well, we forgot to wear our headsets because we barely even remembered to pack them. We were like running around everywhere. There we go, Razor comms. So if you guys haven't tried Razor comms yet, it's Razor's voice chat platform that you can use for chatting with your fellow gamers. It has overlays that don't kill you the same way the Skype ones do. And for all of you guys, when we did our video about why we were using Razor comms for Collins, for all of you guys who were all like, yeah, you guys really brought up that the Skype IP resolver thing is a problem. The beta fixed it. Yeah, the beta didn't fix it. So we actually have a huge apology that we owe to Shaw, our internet provider. We thought they were throttling us. One of the times it was an issue with them, which was just terrible, terrible luck. Timing, yeah. Terrible timing, which led us to believe that. That cemented the diagnosis for us. So they've actually only had a problem with our connection one time. Other than that, in spite of Skype beta being used, the IP resolver works. We were being DDoSed, so we will no longer be using Skype internally at all. We can't. Skype is dead to me. So I'm going to be using Razor comms, again, for voice communication. I'll be using Google Talk. I'll be using anything but Skype at this point. So guys, if you're using Skype, ditch it. It's time, because it is as simple as anyone knowing your Skype username. They key it in. They see not only your current IP, but a history of IPs where you've signed into Skype. So they're going to have the IP of your office, your home, your mother's home, wherever you happen to sign into Skype and use it. So guys, peace out, Skype. It was nice knowing you. I prefer MSN. Thanks. All right. Me too. Everyone's old usernames on MSN were amazing. It's just so good. All right. What do we got here? Ah, adblock buying ads. This is fascinating. So this, did you see my notes? Oh, is it live again? I feel very strongly about this. Like super, super-le-strongly. So I'm tweeting out this thread on the forum, guys. This was posted by Mac on the forum. Thank you very much for submitting this topic. Guys, remember, you can have a chance to be featured on the WAN show, which basically makes you a celebrity. Oh, yeah. If you post in the news section of the Linus Tech Tips forum. So for a while, I guess the video, oh, you know what? It might still be set to private because sometimes the thumbnails load. Yeah, the video is set to private now. So adblock, you know what? Here, go. When I checked it, the video was set to private and the website was not loading. So I actually don't know a lot about the campaign other than the fact that adblock was buying ads, which is ridiculous. So they're buying ads for adblock. They wanted to crowdfund the concept of them buying up ad space so that ads wouldn't be able to be in it. And it sounds noble at first, but hold on. So they even wanted to crowdfund something like a Super Bowl ad. And I'm kind of looking at it going, OK, well, A, that's insane because... That's a lot of money. That's a lot of money. But B, the people who feel really strongly about adblock and that the internet should be ad-free might be willing to pony up for that kind of a utopian future. And they also need to get on the reality train because it ain't going to happen. The internet would shut down tomorrow if ads didn't exist on the internet. Mark my words. If these guys are buying space so that it can be empty, they'll just run out of money and then it won't matter. Yes. The internet will keep being supported by ads. And you know what the reality of it is? Is creators like us do rely on ads. I mean, you know what? I think this is a great time to give a huge shout out to the forum for all the support they gave us through the First Blood campaign. I mean, I think some people thought that we weren't going to talk about how much money we've taken in. We've taken in over $11,000 already. You guys have been absolutely amazing. And I feel like, you know, we want to be accountable to you guys about what we're going to use the money for. So probably anywhere from half to two thirds of it is going to retroactively cover everything we've spent on the forum up till now. It has been a lot. It has been a lot. And then some of the other stuff is going to be used to allocate towards some new backend software we need in order to, I think what we need an encrypted backend thing that's like $600 a year or something stupid like that. It's round. I'm hopefully trying to work on one that's less than $600 a year, but it's a lot, encrypted backend. We need some new modules for the forum that are pay modules. We've relied on a lot of free ones and a lot of, you know, really generous people to help us keep things going. We want to be able to pay generous people who have helped us keep things going. So Winspeed has been actually paying out of his own pocket to host that forum for a long time. We want to pay him back so that like we can actually be self-sustaining. And I mean, the community's response to that has been absolutely amazing. But what I need to throw in there is that $11,000 is a lot of money, but it's not because $11,000 is going to pay for all that stuff. And then at some point, we're going to need to run another campaign and the forum is going to need to keep bringing in money. And that doesn't even actually pay for any of the salaries of any of the people who are working on it. We didn't factor it in. So it is extremely expensive to have people and staff and make videos and buy equipment and have a place to do it and all of those things. And we rely on ads in a big way, whether it's something that we're integrating in the video, like the sponsorship from Razor Comms, which by the way, download using the Bitly link, it helps us out a lot. Don't know how to say that in a way that can be more clear. Whether it's through that or whether it's through Google Ads or whatever else the case may be, if the internet didn't have ads tomorrow, if ad block became 100% effective and it could even block me talking about this right now, I would run out of money and any creator would not be able to create unless they also had a day job, which I really feel would hurt the quality of the content. I like to believe that what we've produced since I was no longer at NCIX is better than what I was able to make when it was just like me with a chest tripod in a corner of my house in the attic trying to make a video and not fall asleep while I was trying to make it because I had to be at work the next morning and I had only just gotten back home from work an hour ago. So there you go, guys. Honestly, this campaign makes no sense. Because they're paying for the ad and it's temporary. They're not buying out ad space. Ad block needs to screw right off. So there you go. With that said, if you feel very, very strongly that you absolutely must have ad block, obviously there's nothing I can do to stop you, but I do thank the people who don't use it. And I mean, I know there's some people that do use it on the forum, for example, and contributed to First Blood. If that's the compromise that works for you guys, then as long as we're finding a way to stay in business, then we're okay. But if there were no ads, that's my whole point. That future of the internet doesn't exist. We ought to make a makeup channel. No one uses ad block. I know, right? The best. Yeah, all the least tech savvy... Yeah, that's what we're going to do. We're going to abandon technology because you guys are all too tech savvy for us. This is awesome. Battlefield 4 runs at 720p, upscaled to 1080p on PlayStation 4. I'm going to tweet this out. Go. So yeah, upscaled to 1080p, runs at 720p, runs at 60fps though. So it was a compromise. Apparently they could have done 1080p but at 30fps. So they're doing the, oh, but you want it to be smoother kind of thing, which is a compromise for consoles. It's always a compromise for consoles. I mean, basically my take on this is, are we really surprised? I mean, here's the crazy thing is, everyone's talking 4K, next gen consoles are talking 720p on current games. I mean, Battlefield 4 isn't even running a new Frostbite engine. It's kind of pathetic. Were you looking at Battlefield 4 today? They weren't running on Xbox Ones, but they were running on like, kind of crappy PCs kind of thing. Wasn't this supposed to be simulated basically? Yeah, yeah. I was like, okay, it looks like Battlefield 3. I actually did two takes of my whole thing in front of it, one of which was, okay, so it looks like consoles finally have Battlefield 3 because the last time I saw Battlefield 3 being played on a console, it was on an Xbox 360, and I was looking at it going like, what is that, Counter-Strike? Because I had never seen it run on a console before. I'd only seen it on a PC. And I was like, no, it looks like, hey, they're finally catching up, but what's that alias thing? And like, the framerates and everything. I was watching people playing racing games, and I was just like, ew, it's disgusting. Racing games at 3DFPS? Are you freaking kidding me? Steam box, people. Build your own steam box. And like, okay, I was making fun of Forza as well, because I was like, oh, check that out. It's got great graphics, just like we've had for years. Oh, hey, check that out. It's got like surround sound around like a cool like car driving seat that's modded into a display, just like PCs been having for years. Oh, hey, look, they have surround monitors, just like PCs had for years. Oh, wait, no, they don't. No, they don't. That's not a thing. Ptum, shh, yes. This is kind of brutal. I know, I know. You can do surround monitors on consoles, but you need multiple consoles. They can talk to each other. That is such a joke. Dude, just buy more consoles. You know what? This is the lecture I gave at the meetup today at PAX, where I had probably about eight people who I hope heard me. You don't have to buy new PC hardware. I'm going to let that sink in for a minute. Go buy a 5870. They're cheap. You can get those things cheap used, maybe 50 bucks, 60 bucks. That is a very capable card. It is iFINITY capable. You can pick up non-TN monitors these days for a hundred dollars, less than a hundred dollars. So for a few hundred bucks, you throw that card into whatever PC you're running, you throw a few monitors on it. Holy crap, what a gaming experience you have that cannot be replicated on a console. This is a big thing in the whole discussion. We're like, oh, you can't build a computer for this cheap. It's like, yeah, that's possibly true. Possibly. You can if you go through other means. Yes. You know what? Where there's a will, there's a way. It is possible to build a PC that is competitive with a console or better and is as cheap or cheaper than a console. Five hundred dollars is a lot of money and that's what Microsoft's asking for Xbox One. So yeah, I can't like flail my hands around in front of that PC and expect it to do anything. But quite frankly, with the experience I've had with Kinect in the past, I'm not expecting it to do much anyway. They had some Kinect demo that they were showing off today with Xbox One. The whole demo was just like a character customization screen. So we eventually walked away from it. It was just kind of stupid. Anyway, we've tweeted out another topic. We want to make sure we cover all of our headline topics because we notoriously do that. We're like, yeah, upcoming on the WAN show. Things we're not going to talk about after all. So Nvidia is rumored to be releasing a dual GK 110 graphics card. So these chips are going to have to be pretty drawn back, I think. I disagree. And I'm going to hold on. I'm going somewhere with this. OK, so AMD has exceeded the PCI Express spec already with 7990. So the precedent's been set. OK, whatever. Screw specifications. Apparently it's game over for that. So this would be, you know, the two graphics cards are supposedly... So there's supposedly, according to VideoCards.com, a couple of graphics cards. So a GTX Titan Ultra and a supposed GTX 790. The rumor is that GTX 790 won't be more than $1,000. They say making such a graphics card might be a challenge, etc., etc., etc., etc. OK, they're already making boards for Nvidia Grid that have four GK 110s on them. So they clearly have the technology, so to speak. And, oh, ha ha ha ha, Winspeed says, when new consoles cost $1,000 in Australia, you can definitely buy a new PC for the cost of a console. Anyway, if they can do that, then I think it's doable. If they could build GTX 295 with the technology they had then, that was a very power hungry chip. The only reason why I said drawback was I shouldn't have said drawback chips. VRM later on that is going to be ridiculous. That'll be ridiculous. But Radeon HD 7990 was ridiculous as well. And I mean, Nvidia does such a great job of the electrical design of their cards. They never coil wine for the most part. They've done a great job of cooling. I mean, you look at something like GTX Titan or GTX 690, how quiet those cards are. If they kind of went, OK, well, OK, let's let it make a little bit of noise. Could they cool the thing? I think so. Could they make the board longer? I mean, remember, it wasn't that long ago that graphics cards were getting longer and longer every generation. Many, I mean, I would go as far as to say most gaming cases these days can accommodate a 12-inch card. 30-cent meters. It used to be a big problem, though. It used to be a big problem, but it's evolved since then. How many gaming cases these days have removable hard drive pages that you could put a 15-inch graphics card in it? And if Nvidia is going to say, look, it's a thousand dollar graphics card, you know what? You can get a Corsair 300R for less than $100. Go buy a case if you want to have this unbelievable gaming experience. So I don't know. I don't, I don't, I, you know, it's funny is I talked to Nvidia today and they were basically like, come on, man. And I was like, come on. And they were like, come on, man. You know, you know, we can't talk about that. So I'm like, come on. I got nothing. You know what I did get though? I got a carrying case for my shield. Really? Yeah. They were selling them in the booth and I was like, yo, dog. It was like a big problem. It took like 15 minutes. How much were they? 30 bucks. I should have just bought one because I felt terrible. The amount of time I wasted of people who I know make six figures. It's like, whoops. It was like they had to go get someone who had to go check with the person overseeing the entire booth, who had to go and override something in their system because they had like an inventory system. I was like, yeah, I feel really bad about this because like my PR guy was like, yeah, we'll just send you one. I was like, dude, it's going to cost you like 40 bucks to ship me that to Canada. Remember I'm in Canada. He's like, oh yeah, crap. Okay, I'll see if I can do it. I was like, thank you. It's so nice. It's really nice. I want a shield, but I can't. We got the, I had a bit of a problem with the buttons on my first shield sample. I know it's there. The new one's way better. Have you, you've tried it? Yeah. Oh, it's way better. I took it out of the box because I wanted to ship the other one in the box because I had to ship the other one back. Right? Yeah. And when I took it out of the box, it's like, I want to try it, but no, I don't have time. Put it down. Oh, it's so awesome. When I'm done the review, you can play around with it for a bit. Sweet. And then you can decide it because you're going to buy one, right? That's your plan? I can't now. Oh, right. You've got a car. Oh, but I do want to at some point. All right. Let's, I don't know. Let's maybe pick like two or three more topics and then maybe I can get you back for half an hour again. Sure. I'm sorry. I feel terrible about this guys. It took us forever to get this stream set up today. I'm more sad for the huge group of people that I've dragged along with me. I blame Comcast. Although you know what? Maybe I should just back off on blaming ISPs for things for a while. Maybe. It was just horrible timing because Shaw said they were throwing us that one weekend. Guys, hit us up on Twitter. We want to do a Twitter blitz here. Just hit us with some random Q&A. And you know what? I want to say a huge thank you to everyone who's watching. We have 2,700 viewers in spite of the fact that we are streaming at four or five hours completely the wrong time of day. You know, we were supposed to have Marcus Brownlee on as our guest today. Really? But when I realized that it just he's East Coast. He's East Coast. So it just wouldn't have worked at all. Although I'm hoping to make an appearance on the tech at some point and I'm hoping to appear in a Prillo vlog because everyone's here. Everybody's here. So it's going to be it's going to be fun over the next couple of days. I'm going to try and find some time for that. But thank you guys so much for watching and we're sorry it's at the wrong time. We're going to be back to the regular schedule next week. Our guest next week is Tiny Tom Logan and our guest the week after that is Marcus Brownlee from MKBHD. So we've got some really good guests coming up. I think you guys are going to love it. So here we go. Topic. EVGA has a mini ITX Hadron case with an integrated PSU. Looks really sharp. Siri apparently responds snarkily when asked to talk about Google Glass. Your comment is would this have happened under Jobs? Absolutely. Yes. But I said that. But Jobs would have had a response. The second line there is there would have been an answer. There wouldn't. It wouldn't have just been like oh yes. Glass sucks. It would have been like yeah Glass sucks. Here's an alternative. We're developing this because that Glass thing isn't ready yet but we're going to have something that's awesome. So here's some of the snarky responses. I just tweeted out the thread from Top War Gamer. I think that Glass is half empty Dan. Stop trying to strap me to your forehead Dan. It won't work. Glass. I think you've got the wrong assistant Dan. I'm not Glass and I'm just fine with that. So these are some examples of some of the things Siri might say if asked about Google Glass. No I don't think it's that funny. They're not that funny. If they were really funny I think it would be way better. Again it probably would be really funny if it was under Jobs. Because he probably wouldn't have let it come out if it was just kind of weird and lame. Lenovo is going to start shipping an aftermarket start menu with their PCs. This is interesting. What a kick in the balls for Microsoft. Just do something. It's like yeah your concept we don't like it. Because it sucks. And you know what's something that I actually feel kind of bad about this. I don't know. You know this. I was the head of PC Systems when I was at NCIX. So the decision for whether or not to just install a start menu on every Windows 8 PC that we shipped. I nixed it. I said no. Because I had concerns about the EULA. I had concerns about getting proper licensing in place for the start menu. NCIX compared to Lenovo is a relatively small fry. I had concerns about damaging the relationship with Microsoft by undermining the initiative that they were trying to do for better or for worse. But now that Lenovo has kind of gone down that road I think the others are going to fall. You need that to defend your position. I'm going to defend and not defend your position. One, it's really really helpful to have that big guy do it first. Yes. I think you could have avoided a lot of those issues if you didn't do it by default and had it as an option. Because if it's a user selected option I think that opens a lot of doors. Even free programs, a lot of them, the way that the licensing works is that you're not allowed to install it on behalf of someone else. That's a big problem. So it would have had to be a complicated deal. And I don't know that NCIX would have even gotten the kind of attention that someone like Lenovo would have for reaching out to a classic starter, whoever else the case may be. So, yeah, I don't know. I felt kind of like I knew the right thing to do. It would be a lot of work. From a user perspective was install it. But then on the other hand, what if it confuses people? What if they're not expecting to have a start menu? It would have to be user selected. I don't think you could do it by default. I think what we ended up doing was we put an install file in the middle of the desktop. Okay. So do you think that's a good compromise? That's not a bad compromise. Maybe something you could have done is just had a mass-copied notepad. Could you explain to what it was? So AMD has updated their roadmap to reflect 2014 market changes. So they are anticipating that they will be shipping 70% APUs. While CPUs, which to be clear are kind of the same thing, but they don't have an onboard graphics core, are going to make up only 30% of sales in, I think, what are you saying, 2014 here. So by the end of, I don't know, your dates are all mixed up on this. But the AM3, in 2014, AMD's AM3 socket will retire after five years. And I think they're counting AM2, AM2+, AM3, AM3+, or whatever it is. Anyway, that socket is going to retire. Now, with that said, APU is not necessarily a bad direction. No. Particularly with the way that you look at the way that applications like Adobe Premiere even are going to leverage the CPU and the OpenCL capabilities of that processor. We could be looking at the potential. Oh, that No Film School article from B-roll isn't in here. With the Mac Mini built into the camera. That must not have synced. Okay, you know what? We'll talk about that one while I was on it. We'll talk about it next week because I want to wrap this up. But anyway, so AMD is just saying, well, no, it's a CPU with a graphics core. But the way that that's going to work, it might end up being more useful to have a quad or a six-core CPU with an equally large graphics core that accelerates all the other things your computer does and more efficiently. So, you know, I think a lot of people are looking at this going, well, okay, it's the death of enthusiast-grade CPUs. Maybe not. What if a game engine could be optimized to leverage your dedicated graphics card to actually draw the image on the screen, your CPU for AI, and your GPU component of your APU for, oh, I don't know, physics calculations or something along those lines? What if we just need to utilize it better? And the reality of it is, it's not just AMD pushing this. Intel's Haswell, Intel's Haswell, fourth generation core, whatever, okay. Haswell from Intel is basically didn't do a whole lot to the CPU component, but they massively beefed up the GPU on there. From AMD's definition, that's an APU. It's also capable of the same kind of heavily parallelized compute performance as AMD's solution. Yeah, and like you said, if they optimize different things for it, it makes a lot of sense. We're looking at a completely different way of building a CPU. I mean, APU could be the future. I can't remember the name. I mean, it is, actually. Yeah, I can't remember the name of it, but the thing they're saying PS4 has over Xbox? Oh, homogeneous system architecture or whatever it is. HEMA or whatever it's called. Yeah. Anyway, the point is that the CPU and the GPU can access the memory at the same time and share with each other in a way that's totally unique and hasn't been done before. Which would also help that whole situation that you were talking about. Yes. So, I mean, we could be looking at... Really, really, really... I want to talk about that camera. I got to talk about this camera. I can't find the link right now. I'm sorry, guys, but there's a camera being shown off right now that's basically, what is it, a 2.5K camera, Brandon? Okay, so it's a 2.5K camera that has a Mac Mini built into it. So what that means is if you were out in the field, for example, you could shoot, you could cut together, you could output, and you could upload from one machine. So you get home from your shoot, you put that on your desk, you plug your monitor and peripherals into it, boom. Now you're editing. Now, I think that a Mac Mini is ridiculous for this kind of an application and makes absolutely no sense, but where I see the potential here is I actually had this argument in the car with Edzel, who is Diesel, and Brandon, who is B-roll, and apparently we're all using real names now. I have now tweeted that article so you can grab it. Awesome. I'll just retweet it here if I can. So let's retweet that right now. There we go. Hopefully it doesn't tell me I'm not allowed to do that. Go, go, go. All right, so I retweeted that. So the argument I had was, because they were saying, oh, well, that's stupid. We all always want dedicated devices for things. I went, no, hold on, because, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Edzel was saying it'll always be cheaper to have a specialized chip that just does the one thing when you build a camera. And I said, not necessarily. Think about it this way. What's cheaper, a 16-gig SD card or a 1-gig SD card? Well, they cost the same. They cost the same now, because the way that miniaturization works, the way that Moore's law works is that you actually get to the point where the bomb cost of building this thing is identical whether you build it at a lower manufacturing process or a higher one and just squeeze more into it. It actually doesn't really matter. The bomb cost is the same. So we could get to the point where that processor that you would have normally found in a camera, that specialized thing, well, maybe that's going to be a Tegra 9 or a Tegra 10 or something along those lines. And when you look at the kind of specialized hardware that someone like an NVIDIA or an AMD is putting into an APU or an SoC such as a Tegra, where it's going to support various codecs and hardware encoding and decoding and all those things, we could be looking at a situation where, no, rather than ever having a specialized camera device, we could actually have every camera be a full system. And then you could unlock functionality like shooting, editing within the camera, which let's face it, we can already do on smartphones anyway. So if you could edit within your camera, now all of a sudden, maybe we've got, who knows, maybe it's 6G cellular data at that point. Now, maybe you could be the ultimate vlogger and you could have a live stream all the time in full HD quality and then you could sit down and you could edit at the end of the day if you're done streaming and you could have this device that's so versatile and so connected and it could be the only one you own at that point. You might not need a desktop computer anymore at all because that might be so powerful. I mean, that is what this concept means to me in the future. And it's obviously a Mac Mini is ridiculous and that's not going to work because editing 2.5K footage on a Mac Mini is going to be stupid. But at some point, the cost of, I mean, I think the bomb cost on something like a Tegra chip is under $25. So at some point, Tegra whatever the heck is going to be so powerful and not more expensive than something else. It's just going to make sense to do it and I'm really excited about that. I find this interesting because I don't know a lot about film, but one thing that's been happening a lot lately is the barrier of entry for just anyone that wants to start making videos is constantly going down. The ability to do different things seems to constantly be going down as well. So being able to live stream something from an event, being possible by random Joe Blow is going to be really ridiculous. It's going to be amazing. I mean, it's going to be like the next generation of accessibility of being able to socially broadcast your thoughts to everyone. It's absolutely amazing and I feel very strongly that it's awesome. So let's go ahead and do that Twitter blitz that I promised before and then we're going to peace out and I'll take you back to the land. We'll go as fast as we can here, bro. I feel very bad about this. Have I seen Logan yet? Yes. I have not. I ran into him twice. Slick smile. Why wouldn't Microsoft be able to run Xbox One software with Windows 7 slash 8? That could mean you just make your own PC because they don't want to. Yeah, they could. They definitely could. I want to see an Opteron sized APU. Probably will happen at some point. Really? You still in Seattle? You think so? Yeah, at some point maybe. Because APU is going to be everything. I think they won't go that way. You still in Seattle? No. I teleported. Hey, I'm new to PC gaming and my friends said I couldn't play future games on Ultra or High. What do you think? Well, it depends. Post on the forum. Post online as Tech Tips Forum. And post your Rigspecs. What do you think of a $30 MX Blue Keyboard which are reasonably well built but don't have the bells and whistles? Do it. Sure. If you don't want the bells... Yeah, if you only have 30 bucks, it's that versus membrane. Do it. Someone says B-roll is dying from work. Man down, man down. B-roll is rolling. Two at night here in the East Coast but isn't Intel also an APU? Yes. It's terminology. Yeah, terminology. AMD wants to call it APU, Intel doesn't. I have a GTX 560 Ti on PCIe 2.0. Will a newer PCIe 3 work on my older motherboard? Yes. Whoops, didn't know it was a topic. Okay. Could you explain about the Shaw incident in more detail? Maybe next week. We've already covered that. Really want to know what the big deal is about Windows 8 not having a start menu? What are they missing? Go. It's usability. You're adding so many more steps. Why add so many more steps? More clicks is bad. My mom's Vesta computer came with Classic Start installed on it by default. Maybe that's something that they're doing now that I'm gone. So there you go. What's your opinion on choosing a device to stream... This is probably the Russian who came up with it. What's your opinion for choosing a device to stream videos from my NAS and surf the net? HTPC or Android Mini PC? I go HTPC but I don't pay a lot for computer components. So I prefer the functionality of an HTPC but it's much more expensive. A lot of people can get old computers. That's true. It's not that hard to get an old computer. And you don't need a powerful computer to be an HTPC at all. No. I would look into trying to inherit one from a relative or even just going somewhere where they kind of throw away computers. I think we talked a fair bit about AMD abandoning FX and the rumors circulating around that. Do you think that this century is having the most technological advances and probably the biggest for a good while? Yeah. Is there enough benefit in going MATX over MITX price-wise? No. The benefit is more expansion slots. Thoughts on the video game High School Season 2? Have you watched them yet? It's been good so far. I liked it. I liked that they spread out. Before they only did one game. Basically only did one game. Now it's still focused on the one game but they're spreading out more which is nice. Alright. So without further ado, and my wireless link to this thing is causing me grief, I'm actually going to ask you guys to bear with me while I load up our outro manual. Thank you so much for watching tonight you guys. You're awesome as usual. And we will see you again next week. And I really hope that I can find the file that I'm looking for here because that is a challenge. That is a challenge. And boom. Don't forget guys, 20% off Elite prices with the offer code LINUS. Sign up at that bit.ly link. bit.ly slash hs share. Good night. Good night. Good night.