 Alright guys, welcome to the WAN show and I'm down a pair of earphones for monitoring so technical difficulties abound. We've got a great show for you guys today though there is a ton of fantastic news. I'm also going to have some early thoughts on the Droid Turbo, which is the phone that I have just started using as of last night and I'm pretty darn impressed with so far. And of course he's going to talk about Oculus because the Oculus Excitement Fairies visited in the night and told us that the retail version is coming soon. So let's go through what our main topics for today are. There's of course a ton of news from BlizzCon and not just like Hearthstone now with tablets. I mean they have that too. But there's other stuff. Now you can use your Gmail app with any email service including ones like Hotmail who completely lacked apps for years and years and years and years and years and just generally kind of suck as a mobile experience. Now you can just use the Gmail interface. Yeah Google can have your data without even storing anything on their servers now. You can just skim it and let someone else do with that problem. That's right. Zalman is bankrupt. Or not. Something's going on. Anyways and just as like the trustiest steam machine you could ever possibly imagine get the pun. Anyways Ubisoft keeps on digging and was able to push through the news of their horribleness through all the mess of BlizzCon news which is a lot impressive and important stuff. I'm not even mad. That's just amazing. Wow. Good work. You are at an impressive level of stuff. That is really good. Good work. Alright so let's roll the intro here. Let's see if it's set up correctly because I didn't do it. There's sound. Alright. Okay. Now shoot I forget which one of it was. One of our sponsors asked very nicely to go first so it's going to be a 50-50 coin toss at this point because I don't know who it was. I don't know which one it was. Alright so our sponsors today are lynda.com. 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Alright so let's get into our first topic today which is going to be that Blizzard should just stop making games. Because they're cinematic trailers for things. The Warlords of Draenor one. The one for Overwatch that just came out today that I was like spellbound by. Okay so I love animated movies. I love The Incredibles. That's one of my favorite movies of all time. I loved Mega Mind. That action animated movies turns me on. Seriously. So that trailer today. Oh man I'm glad I was alone in the room because I would have knocked something over with the... Yeah so freaking awesome. And they didn't pull that whole BS Square Enix thing where there's like a 16 minute long cinematic trailer of like some really impressively spiky haired dude with like an impressively huge sword that's also a gun and a laser beam or something. Like twirling around with it or whatever. We didn't get any of that or like dramatic silence broody thing. And then no gameplay because they know we're not going to like it. No instead we actually got a gameplay trailer. Do you want to talk about the gameplay trailer for Overwatch? Yeah so one thing I really liked about the gameplay trailer for Overwatch just to completely reiterate what you just said was that they showed every single character... This is why I love having you as a sidekick. You just say exactly what you just said. They showed every single character which I really appreciated. And they showed what I think was the complete moveset as far as I could tell. I had to watch it like twice and I was referencing a sheet that shows like their two main moves and their ultimate. But if you looked really closely it looks like they actually show all of their moves including their ultimate. Now the assassin dude with the dual pistols pretty much every single time they showed him on screen they showed his ultimate which was kind of funny. I was trying to figure out the first time I watched it I was like why does he just get to instant kill everyone around him all the time. I was like this doesn't seem fair at all. I figured out later on it's his ultimate thing. They should just call that class the douchebag. Yeah well he's a stealth character so it's kind of... I know how games work. No I mean the douchebag comment. He's a stealth character so it kind of works. Yes I guess so. At least how I see them when I play games. Anyways it looks really good. What a lot of people are pointing out is that while it's like the first new IP in forever that's largely because it's like it's Titan. They just removed everything except for the PvP portion and then they were like yay a whole game. Well that's a large amount of speculation. I don't know if that's actually true. That's what a lot of people are saying and it makes sense. And I don't know if I'm against it because this looks really cool as its own game and I'm hoping that by being its own game they can expand on it a little bit more instead of having it a canned experience within a larger thing. And even talking to people that are really into WoW since they kind of abandoned the whole Titan idea and brought some of those MMO guys back to the WoW experience. WoW has gotten a lot better because of that so it kind of makes sense. I'm pretty stoked for Overwatch actually. I signed up for the beta already. It looks fun. And I like games that are just kind of just fun. Yeah it does. It just looks like they're going to have to still work hard to balance it. If you're going to compete with something like Team Fortress that's fun and really well balanced for hard cores as long as you don't go over the top with some of the stupid stuff that goes on. If they can achieve both of those things and Blizzard is one of the companies where I kind of look at it and I go who actually has the pedigree to go head to head with Valve as one of the only two competitors in an entire genre. Yeah I could see them doing it. Balance has never in my opinion... They're really good at it. They're really good at it in some realms. I don't personally think they've done very well with World of Warcraft arenas which is part of the reason why they were actually pushed out of... I can't remember what very large gaming tournament. I can't believe the MLG was it? They were pushed out of some huge gaming tournament because they were just like your thing is horribly unbalanced and this is just ridiculous. So yeah but that is a really that's part of the reason why I said I'm totally okay with it being its own canned experience. Because I don't want the other stuff to mess with it and if it doesn't mess with it then they might be able to work on things like balance much more effectively. Looks like a lot of fun though so you can sign up for the beta which is coming in 2015 at playoverwatch.com. I'm glad that they're taking their time to polish it. They're not even doing... I mean it looks pretty playable right now but that means that... Yeah you never really know in game game trailers. So they're probably not working on artwork assets so much anymore. They're probably fine-tuning the actual gameplay and maps and the actual experience of playing the game. So I'm really excited to see it. I want to play with it. I like that it's 6v6. Yeah I think that's pretty cool. It's just pushing it that much more and if they try to make it competitive 6v6 then I mean there's a lot more room for dynamic gameplay. Especially as you throw in all these different classes. Yeah there's a ton. I don't know the exact number but there's a really large amount. Yeah so they're pushing the whole it's a character instead of it being a class but it's a class. Oh whatever. Yeah it's a class. There's the sniper and there's the engineer and there's the tank guy. But the engineer has a beard now! Not surprising. Anyways moving on. Should we just do all the Blizzard news right now? Yeah sure. Just one last thing. We finally got an FPS from Blizzard. We've been waiting for it since Ghost. Yay! I still wish we got Ghost. And back to the StarCraft universe. Now you can do your thing. Okay so Legacy of the Void will be a standalone game which is interesting and I personally think actually a really good idea because it'll make the barrier of entry into StarCraft a lot easier. Because buying a new game and then having to buy all these expansions for it just sucks. Like the 90 or 100 dollar battle chest that inevitably comes out. That's just really frustrating. So I'm really cool with the fact that they made it a standalone game. They're doing a few cool things as well. I'm not really going to focus tons on like the you get to pilot this ancient ship and the single player and all that crap. And there was like a lot of lore around it and it's like really cool. Certain things happen if you like single player StarCraft campaigns go play it. I do but I don't think a ton of people care so oh well. They're introducing a few new modes. One that looks really interesting is Archon mode. A new co-op and PVP mode where you work with your teammate to control a single base and a single army. So it's two people controlling one team essentially. That sounds like a lot of fun. I actually think so as well. I'm really stoked. Again for people who are new to the game that kind of thing could be a legitimately entertaining way to play in a game with your buddy who's like way better. I've forced it before because I love this idea. I've gone into a 2v2 and essentially like we've rushed and essentially sacrificed one of our guys. Right. And then just given control to the other guy. Right. And then one person manages the base and the other person manages the army. And by being able to quite literally be in two places at once it can make two players that would be fairly mediocre into like a super player. Really good player. Right. Yeah. And it's interesting to see how that plays out. So it's really cool that it's actually a game mode now. Yeah. I'm going to have a lot of fun with that actually. I will play that game mode. It's probably the only thing I'll care about because I like RTS games. I enjoy them but I tend to be a little bit of a scatterbrain and a little bit kind of ADD. So I will completely forget about that 16 units that I queued up and I'll be in of skirmish or whatever. And I left 16 guys standing next to my barracks. And if you could have just just have someone just like pushing units at you while you fight and you just get completely fight. That would be fun. And I'm a base micromanager. I like building bases. Right. And I usually just like attacking when I have like a huge army which isn't necessarily necessarily good strategy. No. Yeah. And then they have another mode called allied commanders which is another co-op style mode where players join forces through different scenarios and they gain new capabilities as they progress and go forward. And I don't know a ton about that one. But again it's this like bringing people together. I'm I like RTS is a lot. I like watching 1v1 Starcraft. I'm not a huge fan of playing 1v1 Starcraft. I like playing RTS is on teams. My favorite modes are 2v2 3v3 and 4v4 because I get to play with someone. So I like that they're bringing out these these additional modes. Also there's going to be a like online dynamic tournament system which should be really cool which I'm pretty stoked about because people like my brother. ColdSC a Starcraft caster have been pretty frustrated with the like tournament support and team support in Starcraft. So it's cool that they might actually be doing something about it. Also they're bringing in new units which is not surprising and they're bringing back the Lurker which some people have been waiting for. All right. So then we did promise that one of the things at BlizzCon was going to be Hearthstone with tablets just like last year. Well now it's Hearthstone on different tablets. Android tablets. So there's another why wasn't this a thing. Nine months ago shortly after the iOS release. I don't know. Should have been a lot faster. I'm pretty stoked that it's finally happening but it's more of a like yeah. OK. Thank you. Instead of like a yay. But they're also releasing a new expansion Goblins versus Gnomes. So that'll be cool. The previous expansion that they released was actually really fun. So it's cool to see them expanding the game. There's also going to be 120 new themed cards which is pretty insane. Hey and you don't have to borrow my iPad anymore. Yeah. Hey that worked out for everyone. All right. So let's go ahead and move on to our next topic. Intel was caught cheating. Now is this the second time. Oh this is I think we're like the whatever time. Because when I first saw the story I was like wait. OK. There was an old article. There was like the big one where there was like allegedly Intel was you know paying for people to not or deeply incentivizing their partners to not carry AMD products. And that was I think that was like each P and Dell or something like that. And this was this was back around the same time frame I think a little bit earlier actually. Whereas this is during the Pentium four days specifically if you bought a Pentium four based computer sometime between November 20th and the year 2000 and December 31st 2001. So just over a year of time you bought a P4 you get a 15 dollar cash payout for Intel not allegedly. It's confirmed now they were caught. So for Intel misrepresenting the performance of the Pentium four relative to the AMD Athlon Thunderbird. So if you want your 15 bucks there's no receipt necessary. And Intel will also be paying four million dollars to educational charities which is pretty cool. They have to pay. They're not also. They're not like yeah. Thank you for the unfavorable court ruling just to use four million bucks. No it's something you have to do that. Yeah. So it's one of those things where I think a lot of people will kind of look at this and go you know big bad Intel. You're bad dudes. And you know what. That was not a cool thing to do. I think that based on our engagement with Intel over the last couple of years they treat this kind of stuff really seriously internally now. Especially after that the big lawsuit the one where they had to pay AMD like I can't remember how much it was. I want to say it was in the neighborhood of hundreds of millions or a billion or something like that. It was a big deal. So ever since. Yeah I vaguely remember that. Ever since that whole thing came to light like they are so careful when they talk to us about look say whatever you want. Do this. Do that. They like criticize us publicly if that's what it comes to. Just be fair and like we'll sponsor you. We'll have that relationship with you but we can't affect anything you do or say. OK. That's good. That's how it's supposed to work. So yeah they've been. Yeah they're always pretty pretty careful. 15 dollar parents. Yes. My computer from like high school wasn't fast enough so I want my 15 dollars now. You know the lunch money. The only winners from something like this because the amount of effort that it takes to make the 15 dollars you could probably go fill out online surveys. The only winners are people that are like lawyers. Yeah well lawyers and then people that are like 14 and then are like dad can I say that you bought a computer at this time. Dad's like sure whatever and then that kid gets 15 bucks and then buys a cheap game on Steam. Yeah. Yeah. So so the lawyers are the big winners but that's about it. And an educational charity. Yeah and a charity. Speaking of being a big winner Sony reports a one point two five billion dollar loss. Did I say winner because I meant loser. Over the last quarter one point two five billion US dollars spearheaded. So oh wow we haven't been we haven't been posting original posters. Oh geez. Oh no. So Intel caught cheating was STIZI and the original article was from gizmodo.com and this one was posted by good bites and the original article is from neowind.net. Not done. The Hearthstone on tablets post was by Johnners and the Overwatch post was by Gruffalo. I need this adapter. As long as this isn't the one that I marked dead and should just throw away because it doesn't work. No this is this is the good one. So I normally do is if it's dead I cut it in half and then just throw it away so people don't take it out of the garbage. Yeah I actually had a problem with people fishing the stuff that I had thrown away out of the garbage. I think an ethernet cable made the rounds like four times. But I'm just trying to network things. I want them to just work. OK so Linus's screen sharing is evidently not a thing right now. We just peed. So yeah no no Linus is not screen sharing today. OK so from neowind. Sony reports 1.25 billion dollars in losses led by Wright mostly due to their mobile division which is a real shame because I don't know about necessarily the rest of their lineup. But the Xperia Z2 is a really solid phone and it doesn't get the amount of attention that I really think it deserves. I mean they were one of the first ones to to glom on to that idea that oh wow we should make the battery bigger. I mean it's got a 3200 milliamp hour battery which is significantly more than most of its competition. And they were the first ones to pioneer that whole waterproof thing. Remember how much our brains exploded. Yes. Yeah. When they had like the dunk tank with the phone. Yeah. That was actually pretty cool. If they had a stock Android skin instead of their Sony skin I probably would have bought a Z3 by now because I'm up for an upgrade. So I OK I wouldn't have I would have upgraded through my phone plan to Z3. So the movie division had an operating loss of 10 million which in the grand scheme of things is actually not not that bad. You know they could have sold a couple more tickets to something and it's kind of a you kind of look at that and you know OK well maybe it'll be better. Hollywood accounting and all that kind of stuff. Yep. And so you know revenues increased in total 7 percent although I personally as much as investors might care about this kind of thing like Wall Street kind of cares about this. I kind of look at it and I go so what you sold more but you lost more money. How is that. How is that a business strategy. That's not that's not a good sign. That just means you slashed your prices to liquidate and then you like it from on a very sort of micro level. Obviously they're doing it on a much larger scale. Slashing things and liquidating and then their music division posted slight profits and PlayStation 4 maintained healthy sales although I really have to wonder with the way triple A gaming is going. Is PlayStation 4 a worthy competitor to the Wii U right now. Oh we use smashing it so far and smashing it. That was actually the point. Yeah sorry. Yeah. Boom. Fist smash. Smash stick. Anyways they're doing really well and with Smash around the corner and with what is it squid squid roux or I can't remember the name of the game Splatoon. There we go with that around the corner getting really really good reviews. The Wii U has just been doing incredibly well lately and like something that I thought was amazing which I tweeted out not that long ago was a whole bunch of Xbox and PlayStation like that style of next gen console fanboys ragging on Wii U before Xbox one and PS4 had been released. Right. Like you think it's cool that you can run like 1080p 60fps. That's pathetic. Oh yeah. I get a kick out of how many console fanboys still think that they're getting 4k at some point. No you aren't. No dude. No. I don't know. I think it still will because no matter how much I can go like yeah the best setup is a Wii U and a PC or if you just have like little kids maybe just Wii U or something because I'm a huge fan of Wii U and I'm a huge fan of PC gaming. It's it's it's it's in this weird situation where like kind of like with World of Warcraft in a lot of ways you want to play a game that all your friends are playing. Yeah. That's one of the big reasons why World of Warcraft exploded. Yeah. It's because if people want to play a game with a lot of their friends it just catalyzed so quickly because so many people started playing it just blew up and that happens with consoles as well. I remember being in high school. I wanted to play games with my friends. Every single friend that I had was playing on consoles and then there's like me with my computer. I'm like yay. Hey guys do you want to get together and play some games. Where do I plug in my mouse and keyboard. What. Eventually I was able to like move everyone over onto my team. But yeah there was a lot of console playing. I had an Xbox. I played Halo 2 online. It was actually fantastic because Halo 2 was an amazing game. Really. So you didn't like catch the leprosy or something console. After Halo 2 I ditched hard. I bought Halo 3. I was like wow this game's terrible. And then I stopped. But yeah by that point I had moved a lot of my friends to PC gaming anyways so it just kind of worked out. But like I get it. I understand why so many people are into it. I think it's actually. I'm part of that PC Master Race group where it's like I actually feel bad for them. Like I wish their experience was better. Their consoles just suck. But no if you look back at it most console releases they lose money when they sell the machine. And then they make money back on games and controllers and stuff. Now they're making money from selling the machine because it's a giant piece of crap. Like I wish they had. Well it's a small piece of crap. It's a very slim lined piece of crap. It doesn't smell bad. It could. So it could. Yes. It smells not static. Anyways. Yeah I wish they had a better experience. They just don't. Okay. You know what's kind of funny? We have surprisingly few live viewers today and I'm not quite sure what's going on. Ah yes the announcement video on YouTube never went live for some reason. It's sitting right here. Invalid request. Authentication expired. Well that's clever. Let's go ahead and actually announce that we're live because that would be fantastic. That's the kind of thing that you should do if you're live and streaming a video. You should be like yo dog I'm live. Y'all should come watch right about now. It's going to be pretty cool and awesome. I can't believe we didn't do this. I sort of suspected something earlier but then I got all carried away ranting about something and then I got distracted. So speaking of ranting about things and getting distracted. HTC's new charger gets your mobile charging up to 40% faster. So it takes advantage. This is not an HTC technology. It takes advantage of Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0 technology. So the 1M8, 1E8, 1M8HK edition, Harmon Carden edition. It's very special. And the Desire Eye can all utilize this new charger. So they figure the certified charger can restore 60% to a 3300 mAh battery in just 30 minutes. That's awesome. I like that it's backwards compatible. It's called the HTC Rapid Charger 2.0 and it not only works with the newer devices that support Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 but also older devices that support Quick Charge 1.0 albeit at a lesser rate. So I've actually got at least, you know what? I'm pretty sure the Droid Turbo has Quick Charge 2.0 but I also have a 1M8 so we have a Quick Charger on order already. Not from HTC. It's a different one. I'm going to try out. I'm going to see how much of a difference it makes because I think that even though we haven't gotten to that revolutionary stage yet where we can charge our batteries in 15 seconds wirelessly or we have batteries that last for 5 days at a time or whatever else. That's what I'm hoping for. If I can recharge in half an hour to an hour let's say and I can get a full day no matter how hard I abuse it out of the capacity of that battery then that's at least a massive step towards that revolutionary next step. The really cool part in my opinion about this like you can get 60% in half an hour isn't even the half an hour part. It's how much that comes down to in like a two minute or five minute frame. The burst like oh my god I need a little battery but I can't stop. I have seven minutes and nine seconds before I need to walk out the door. My phone is almost dead. Can I get through this date that's probably going to be horrible by texting on my phone the whole time. If it dies what am I going to do. I'm going to have to actually look at her face which is horrible. Like that kind of thing right. Yeah that would be really helpful. A lot of times if it's going to be able to sit there for half an hour it's going to be able to sit there for three hours. It's going to be able to sit there for more than that. It's the very short burst charging that excites. So I'm going to use this to segue into my initial thoughts about the Droid Turbo from Motorola. This is a Verizon exclusive device and honestly that's the biggest complaint I can come up with about it is that not everyone everywhere right now can buy it. It's very early stages. I first signed in to my Google account on it 21 hours ago so I've been using it for very little time but is it Verizon exclusive for the world. No it's not coming to Canada. No I think I think it's going to be there's rumors that it'll be called the Droid Max or the Moto Max or something like that. So it'll have a different name. Yeah so it'll have a different name or whatever but it'll probably be a very similar phone. What's cool about it is and this is a review unit so I'm not sure if this will apply to the retail ones but the Verizon-ness of it is that I can't use MMS. Verizon doesn't allow MMS messages outside their own network and that's pretty locked. Even after I rooted my wife's Droid DNA she never got MMS working. So there's that. Limitation number two is that it comes with some Verizon stuff pre-installed on it that you can go make a folder for somewhere and hide it. And then limitation number three is that when you first put in your SIM it boots up and says blah blah blah this is not a Verizon SIM and then you press OK and it drops you on the home screen. So it doesn't. So what I'm hoping is everyone will be able to buy one even if they can't necessarily get one with a carrier subsidy because the 3900 milliamp hour battery in here they're claiming two days. That's Motorola's sort of quote is we want you to get through 48 hours per charge and I'm going to go you know what phone enthusiasts. Yeah it ain't happening. It's not going to be two days unless you were already getting one and two thirds of a day out of an experience Z2. You're not going to get two days out of this because it's like that much more. But what I want from it and what it looks like I'm going to get is like one tank day like no matter what I do to it. So today I am hitting it as hard as I can. Like I used my GPS navigation to go to work and back so that was a total of an hour today already. No more than that. About an hour and a half that used to kill my phone used to die from full to zero completely on one of that trip one direction of that trip that you just pulled. So I've had music running all day. I've had the screen brightness just kind of managing itself rather than doing anything special with it. I've had Bluetooth on. I've had everything on and I've been constantly on it. I've been doing all my emails and all my prep for WAN show I did on here instead of on my computer and I'm still at 37 percent and I'm tethering to my laptop throughout the entire WAN show. Like I'm trying to throw a worst case scenario at it and if it can make it through this day. He's leaving the screen on this whole time. Yeah with even like I'm hurting it. He's destroying it. If it can make it through this day with five percent left with all my apps and all my services running in the background including the Moto 360 connectedness. I'm going to be really impressed and this is going to be my new daily driver for sure. Yeah. So there you go. That's my initial thoughts. Full review to come though of course. People are asking about full room water cooling. It'll come. It'll come. I have a post in the water cooling section about it. It'll be on the way. And then mineral oil. We have like a Monday night Monday night. Monday night. It's on the schedule. It's actually edited now. So there you go. Yeah. I thought we had a date. I wasn't sure. I didn't want to say it. Yeah. So yeah. Monday night mineral oil is coming. Tell you what. Tomorrow is the Sennheiser Momentum in-ear earphones tomorrow night. The following night is LG's curved surround part one. And then the night after that is oil cooled part two. It should also be really cool. So it's all going to be really good stuff for the next few days. I haven't even seen oil cooled part two. I'm excited. I watched number one. I was like wow that was really cool. I was like wait a second. I was in that. Yeah I was there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Burkle got it down to 13 minutes. Nice. Yeah. So it's pretty. Three hours of footage or something. It's pretty compact. Yeah. It's going to be good. All right. So speaking of things that are going to be good. Oh my goodness. This is freaking awesome. Oh yeah. Now you can use your Gmail app with other email accounts like I don't know about you guys but I still have a hotmail.com account that is tied to so many things that it's just way more work than it's worth because you know some site will like change their domain and send me a notification about it at some point and I'll have like some thing or something. And it'll it'll go to that email address. But I hate the hotmail interface or outlook or whatever it is they call it these days. Yeah. Absolutely hate it. Being able to use that. Yes. Especially the mobile one being able to use my Gmail app for that. Yeah. Which means hopefully eventually inbox. Maybe. This isn't inbox. No. We have to be very clear about that new Gmail app which I actually just started using it just rolled out to me. I updated to it has a very different look and feel to it. It has that. What are they calling it material design. Yes I think so. Yeah material design kind of look to it which is just I don't care. Everything's kind of in the same place. Some stuff's round now. Yeah. So so there's that it's going to match better with the upcoming Android lollipop. But the new Gmail is completely separate from inbox which I got an invite from someone and thank you so much for that. But it hasn't been very useful for me because I use my corporate account as my primary email and corporate accounts are not able to get in on Google inbox yet. But you have been using it. You want to talk about it. Yeah I use I use both. I actually mainly use my corporate account as well but I use my personal one because I have taken all of my like hotmail accounts and stuff that he was talking about old accounts that are linked to too many things to get rid of. And I've ported all of them through that one remaining personal account that I have. So I'm using that one for like six different emails essentially. And so I actually use it. I got the invite from the same person he did. And it's kind of great. The email reminder thing is fantastic because like my mom will send me an email about some family gathering thing that I really need to pay attention to. But I got it at 2 p.m. on a workday or I'll send you an email at 3 in the morning. That will get buried by other random crap by the time you actually arrive at work. So yeah. And like I might have received it at 3 in the morning and I'll be like oh this is important. But starring things in Gmail puts them below your important and I just forget about them forever. Yeah which is not helpful. So now I can be like remind me and at this specific time or like later today or whatever. So with say work emails from Linus I'll be like remind me at like 10 a.m. or something like in the morning once I'm at work doing stuff and with emails from like my mom I'll be like remind me at like 7 or 8 when I'm home and doing random stuff. So I find that really really helpful. I like the reminder system. It's great. Remind you on time it'll put reminders of anything inside your email inbox. So when you go to check your emails you're like oh I remember this now. It's actually a lot more helpful than just setting random timed reminders because you might be able to remind yourself earlier and that'll help you prepare. And it's very very easy to get through stuff like Amazon plugging you with emails for toasters because you bought a toaster six months ago and it thinks that you need 40 more because it'll bundle things in sections say promotions. You can jump into promotions read all the titles and it'll give you a little bit of a blurb of the email as well which should be able to explain what it's all about. So I'll see like Amazon like any steam stuff you play all that kind of stuff all dumped in one spot with different sales and whatnot I'll scroll through it all and be like wow I don't want to spend money checkbox they're all gone. It's very easy to really really quickly get through those types of emails which is really helpful. All right so let's go ahead and move on to our next actual topic because I think we kind of got distracted a couple times there in the last little bit. HP and in excuse me HP and Microsoft are dropping the hammer. No they're dropping a bomb lowering the boom and they're doing something with a hammer because Chromebooks may not make any sense to me anymore. This looks really compelling. So they've launched the new HP stream lineup that includes the stream seven the stream eight the stream 11 and the stream 13. So the seven and the eight are tablets. The seven is a seven inch windows tablet at a hundred dollars. Now they're not really saying anything about specs. We do know that it's an Intel based solution. So probably some kind of super low power atom thing or even something else not not 100 percent sure what it is. Probably Adam. And then the eight is an eight inch windows tablet at 150 bucks. So this was originally posted on the forum by Top War Gamer and the original article here is from the verge. And this is where things start to get crazy. The stream eight comes with 200 megs of free LTE data each month with no contract and right now presumably through T-Mobile. Now I've been saying for a long time that I think that cloud storage is super cool except for when you're on mobile and you're using a Lamo data limit. Well now you're not going to be you're not going to be transferring like movies to and from your cloud storage. It will pretty much be with 200 megs. But if we're talking about a tablet that's going to be used predominantly for work. Well that's lots for the odd text document and some pictures here and there. And that sounds fantastic. Especially when I throw in this next little bit which is that both tablets get a year of Office 365 one terabyte of one drive storage and 60 minutes of Skype calling included in the purchase. Actually kind of awesome. That's like I wonder if you break that value down what that totals wonder how close that is to the total cost of the actual device. I think for the seven that costs more like sticker price then so you might as well just buy a seven if you're going to use all those if you're going to use those services but I could see I pay for an office 365 account. It's awesome. I love it. I just the way it works now is really like the graph creation and I'm probably going to switch off as 365 just because they look better and whenever I create graphs they don't look as good anymore. Yep. Office 365 is really great and I hope that they move windows to something like that because I think that personal licensing makes a lot more sense than device licensing in the modern world where my device is very interchangeable. I mean I can switch over to a new phone within about you know an hour of dinking around and changing desktop wallpapers and ringtones and stuff so the device is not this not the important thing the important thing is me. I'm allowed to use Google Play Music and office and windows or whatever else and wherever I happen to be that should be where all of my stuff is and this this is this is that this looks fantastic. Now then things get even more interesting because you can kind of look at and you go kill a line of sub that's seven and eight inch low spec tablet is not exactly a competitor for a Chromebook because Chromebooks are books. They're not books they're laptops actually but the point is is not necessarily the seven and the eight the point is the stream 11 and stream 13 so the 11 is an 11.6 inch laptop with an HD display at 200 bucks and the 13 is a 13.3 inch laptop that has an option for touchscreen also assumed to be an HD display priced at 230 bucks both using dual core Celeron's with fanless designs 32 gigs of flash storage and both come with a free year of Office 365. Wow. That's kind of awesome. You know how you said the book thing. Well laptops aren't technically tops either. Like spinning tops. Get it. Get it. Get it. Get it. That joke was tops. They're not. They're not. Oh. All right. So let's just move on. So you know what we got it. We got a Twitter blitz this guy's Chromebook or stream. We want to hear from you guys and maybe I know it's 140 characters but give us a couple of thoughts about why because you look at Chrome you look at Chrome OS and you kind of go OK well I can run a Chrome browser and I can run all my apps and like you know that's cool there in my browser but I've never liked that experience personally. No it's not. I've never been interested in a Chromebook. Look I'm trying to present it as if I actually think it's a good idea. OK. So so Chrome OS. So you got your and you know what. When I did try to use it for a little while whenever I had Internet connectivity it wasn't that bad. But the Chrome experience relies on connectivity. Everything runs in this browser and things 365 doesn't care. And well you can use Google's stuff offline and then sync it once you reach a connection again like they do have answers to that. But the truth of the matter is that Office 365 is a paid solution and drive and sheets and whatever are not a paid solution because a paid solution is just a lot better than the other one. I'm honestly I like Google Docs because of some of the collaboration stuff that allows us to do very but a lot of times if it's just something that I'm only going to be working on and not other people I will use local solutions like Word and Excel because Google Docs is just better. Yeah. In a lot of ways even like I'm going to bring my love for notepad plus plus for a second. But if you have it open in two locations and you make revisions in one location and save it when you go over to the other location it won't just be broken. When you try to when you try to even just click on the window it'll be like oh this has been saved and remade on another machine would you like to reload the file. You say yes and it's so like there's there's even better collaboration. There's like the collaboration for local stuff is even not even that bad. Right. If you have multiple computers and like I'll work on something at home and I'll work on something at work and if I'm working on it at home and then just leave and then save it also at work and come back and just like oh reload. And the thing and the and that kind of collaboration to like personal self collaboration almost is is great for that. But the other kind of collaboration person to person collaboration especially where I'm editing something that someone else produced and I want to leave comments. So and I want to keep like I want to have like a really nicely organized change history. It's much better for me to use something like office it just it can. Google Docs has a pretty good change history stuff but it's okay. I also like it's like it's not as lonely. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So right. Yeah. Let's go to the Twitter blitz. I want to hear from you guys. What's wrong with the outlook interface. You know what I have to confess I haven't used it that recently but if I were to do a review of it today I'm sure I could find at least a dozen things that are just brain dead about it. So I mainly just don't like the app honestly the online version like the web web version has some pretty annoying crap about it. Yeah but it's not nearly as bad as hotmail and it's a lot better than it used to be. Yeah. Okay. Alex says I am all for the HP and Microsoft solution is I can't go without my desktop apps and move to a browser. You know what. Great point. We didn't even bring that up. It's a full Windows OS so you can actually install things on the app on the laptops 32 gigs but but you could you can have stuff. Yeah. And you're not expecting to play games so most of your apps won't even be that big and you can probably fit it on a big problem that I had with Chrome OS was things like Kodak compatibility and I don't know if they're going to be addressed that recently but back when I looked at Acer's Chromebook I was like okay so I can watch like these videos and not these other ones and if you can just install like VLC VLC Windows Media Player Classic and see CCP you're just good for and 32 gigs is not going to be a problem. That's still lots of storage for just those little things that make your life a little bit easier you know. Okay. Max says stream because it would make a great cheap portable Linux device. Great point. Was never interested in Chrome or Chrome OS from agent 47. This might be intriguing for all the extra stuff you get Office 365 is actually good. Sure why not let's let's experiment live and find out what this actually is. Okay. Yeah you know what let's let's make that the official one so let's go ahead and just post that here. I hope that I'm already logged in because otherwise this is going to take me a second. Sorry guys. Oh, I typo I suck. I'm a bad person. Oh no I got it. I typo but it logged in anyway so apparently Twitch doesn't care. Close ad stop ad. Please just let me send a message in the chat in the whoops. All right let's pretend that didn't happen. All right that's official now so let's go ahead and let's go back to Twitter here. Oh my god. Tony says stream because there are no applications for Chrome OS. No isn't fair, but it is very limited. Definitely the stream 13 because I want Windows instead of Chrome OS better compatibility. Spam jazz. Oh this is interesting. Our school supplied all the kids with Chromebooks. They don't run plugins and players so they're sort of a waste. I would rather have something running Windows than not says Jack. I've used Chromebooks and been very unhappy with them. MSI. Okay. I now want a laptop and it's going to be a stream one with a touchscreen. Really interesting. I don't think we have ever. Oh no there we go. I was about to say I don't think we've ever had the entire audience as unanimous about something as this. But B.C.D. says oh I think I think he might have misunderstood two of the devices are laptops with keyboards. Yeah and they're still good point. Yeah because especially if you're in a production thing like you're doing work and you need to use Excel or Word not using a real keyboard. This is a great point from Austin stream because I don't think it's fair to say it's stupid and pointless but when it point but Windows can do everything that Chrome OS can and more. So if you're getting a low cost device where you're not saddled with that extra hundred dollar burden of the Windows license then yeah why not have windows browser. Yeah you can still install Chrome and you can install Chrome apps. So yeah. Hey that's the both world's Chrome Chrome Chrome books. As far as I can tell. I mean I'd love to review one of these laptops just so that I can get a feel for the build quality and everything because if they're decent. I don't understand why Chrome books get to exist in the world anymore at all. I never liked them in the first place and now there's something that just stops them and actually looks interesting like this is actually intriguing. I wouldn't have been able to do it for the schooling I did but if you're taking like business or something like that this makes a ton of sense especially considering how cheap it is you could almost use it as like a throw away every single time your office 365 subscription died and just get a new one and it would almost be the old one. Yeah and it would almost like more cost effective than just buying like a thousand dollar laptop and carrying that through school because it's actually cheaper and you could just try to sell off your old ones as you went through and you'd have a constant office 365 subscription constant updates on your Skype payment and what's the other one drive a terabyte. Yeah one drive so you'd constantly have a terabyte of drive constantly have office 365 which should be paying for anyways constantly have Skype stuff well not constantly have a fair amount of Skype time and then a brand new laptop every single year and it's still cheaper than buying one one thousand dollar laptop. I can always count on you to give me the like supremely cheap bastard perspective on things can't I. Knowing me I would just buy one of them and then carry it the whole way through but if you wanted to you could do that as well. 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This I'm really excited about PayPal has officially launched their pay after delivery service, which don't think of it as like, oh you know free stuff that I don't have to pay for or like still definitely. Yeah, you still definitely have to pay for it. But the point is trust. So it allows users to pay for their goods up to 14 days after they choose to make a purchase. So if you buy from someone I'd love to say someone like Amazon. Unfortunately, they don't take PayPal. But if you buy from someone else online, then basically it arrives you kind of go like yes this appears to be an actual mobile communication device. Okay, it's all good. So the money doesn't come out of your account until you're satisfied that you've actually received the device that you did. How cool is that? That's freaking awesome. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. So they actually partnered with Burger King and this this I love. Yeah. Oh God. So you can order your food ahead of time. So this doesn't have to be like 14 days after the fact. This could be like 20 minutes. Be like, yo dog, I'm stopped by the Burger King. Have my order ready. And the payment drops out of your account. Like it's it's like pre authorized and prepaid and you just go pick up your food. Fast food just got faster. America. America. I'm in North America. So I consider myself part of America when I make fun of. That probably won't come to us. Probably not. Just like we're not getting Apple Pay or Google Wallet or this or anything cool. Yeah, I kind of like I felt like really sucky because we're doing it fast as possible over on the Tech Quickie channel about Apple Pay because I think there's a lot of confusion out there about it. And so I just like I kind of run through the basics. And then at the end I was just kind of tempted to say like like get a little Canadian flag or something be like, but none of this matters to me because Apple Pay is like there. It's only speculation right now. Apple won't comment on it. But the speculation is that it's like a year plus out for sure. Even though the technology it's like the actual the phone and this is not an Apple phone. But I hope you guys get my point. The NFC chip is not revolutionary. No, no. At all. And that's where a lot of the confusion about Apple Pay versus Google Wallet comes from where people kind of go, oh, well, why is Apple getting so much attention and support for this? It's the same thing as Google Wallet. It's not. On the back end, it is not the same thing. So Apple needs to build those relationships with the financial institutions, which are very different in Canada from from the US in order to actually enable it and provide the service here. Yeah. So there you go. I'm excited about this PayPal thing five years from now. Yeah, whatever. Speaking of five years from now, originally posted by TechDreamer. By the way, TechDreamer was also the one for the PayPal one and it was Top War Gamer for the HP Stream one. We've got so much amazing news this week. I'm going to let you go. Go, go, go with this one. So Oculus News, although also not hugely Oculus News at the same time. A lot of people are freaking out about this because he's like it's months away, not years. Although the speculation is still 11 months or 15 months. Yeah. The speculation for a long time has been late 2015. So this isn't actually like I was like, yeah, because this is more of a confirmation. OK, which is great because I'm not super into rumors. So this is actually coming from him, which is awesome. So now we know it's coming then. But I think when the CEO says it's months away, I think the implication is not 11.9 months. No, I think the implication is because when you say month, well, he says he says many months, I think. Yeah, it's months, not years away, but many months. So he does mean quite a few. I still think it'll be like Q3, probably Q4 2015. But yeah, I'm super stoked. If you haven't seen the new prototype that they released, it looks a lot wider. It looks like they've probably messed with the aspect ratio a little bit, which could be really cool. They're still talking about how keyboard and keyboards, mice, gamepads are all not really up to the job. And neither is like super basic gesture control. He says they're urging larger companies not to rush their products out and to try and just make the best solution they can and then release it because they don't want to like you don't work the waters with crappy products, essentially. Yes, they don't want to spoil the awesomeness that is VR right now. It has killed technologies in the past. It's killed VR in the past. Yep, it has more than once, actually. Yeah. So I think they're trying to make sure that other companies don't ruin it for all of the companies that are trying to do it properly, not just Oculus, but all the companies that are trying to take their time and properly release these products because they are extremely new and people are going to potentially get extremely motion sick. Well, we all saw Lou when we were trying out the roller coaster stuff. When he tried the last one, he was like, no, I'm done almost immediately. He couldn't handle it. And it's going to hit people randomly. Certain people will feel it a lot more than others. And it's not going to be like, oh, my big tough dudes, I don't get motion sickness. That's not really how it's going to work. And it'll be different things that hit different people. Like I was able to handle the rides. But in Kokiri Forest, when I fell off of a cliff, the way that the camera was controlled by my fingers, but also by my head was just like it felt like someone took my stomach and wrung it out like a dishcloth all of a sudden. And it took a while of like, oh, wow, I better not touch that thumb stick to have it settle down again. So it's real. It's a real thing. It's real. Like you just definitely said, it totally affects people differently. Some people can like be standing up facing backwards during a roller coaster ride and not care and then go through something like you did and be like, holy crap, that's not OK. Yeah. So yeah, we need to be careful. But it's coming soon, which is really cool. I've been playing a little bit of X-Wing lately because I was just like, you had your stream. Holy crap. Oh, oh, oh, terrible story. My Top Gun joystick. Oh, no. Last night. Oh, no. I was like I was like I was kind of too excited and I had my son on my lap. So like I was kind of awkward and I was like I was going around, I was dogfighting with a TIE fighter and I was like pew, pew, pew snap. My trigger button snapped inside the housing. It's a clean break. It sounds like it might be repairable. It's a clean break. OK. And I think that the solution is going to be one of two things or both. So maybe as a temporary fix, what I can do is because super glue never works for something like that. But what you can do, what I've actually had a lot of success with is a thin needle and heat it up with a blowtorch red hot. You position it in the right place to glue it together and then you actually stab through the break from different angles. And then you kind of melt around the outside and smooth it. Yeah, I have found that that has held up almost as well as the original strength welding. Yeah. So like kind of like plastic, plastic welding. Yeah. So I'm going to try that. And then if that doesn't work, then someone in Twitch is going to be like, oh my God, that's not well, they get all. But like we know. Yeah. So then I'll figure it away to three different one. Yeah. And then that'll make my top gun joystick even cooler because I can get like a bright orange or like bright pink. Yeah. Trigger on it. So I was so sad because I was like I thought you were going to tell me that story. I thought you were going to snap it off the base. No, no, no. Like, oh my God. No, but I was upset because I was playing with my son and he was enjoying blowing up the bad guys. He's he hasn't. This is only the second time he's actually seen a game being played. Like I don't really do the whole lots of screen time with them thing. I don't really believe in it. I think little kids should spend most of their time in reality. But but he was really he was really enjoying it. And so we had I never game with speakers anymore because usually he's sleeping. So we had the speakers on so he could actually hear the voice chatter over the radio and like you people people people. Yeah. And he loves the Star Wars movies. He's only seen them once. Again, not a ton of screen time with him, but he had a Darth Vader plush from when he was very little. And I have the most adorable videos because we used to play this game with him when he was really quite young where I would lift him up and I would say, say good night monkey. And he had like a vinyl monkey sticker on his wall and say, say good night giraffe. And there's like a giraffe sticker. And he would like say and so he'd be all happy and he'd be like, yeah, yeah. And so say good night. Good night. And then I'd say, say good night, Darth Vader. And he would squirm and try to get away from him because he had like a voice thing like. Yeah. So I played it a couple of times and it's amazing how the the psychological fear that goes into something like a costume design goes so much deeper than that character did bad things and is therefore scary. That mask is frightening even without the voice and even without the the actions of the growing up the planet all they're on and forcing Leia to watch. Like even without that, it's terrifying. So he didn't like Darth Vader for a long time. And I would do it to him all the time because I thought it was hilarious. So every night before bed, it'd be like, say good night monkey. Say good night Darth Vader. No, no, no Darth Vader. No Darth Vader. And and I forget where I was going with this. Right. So so he he really liked the Star Warsyness of it as well. So that's I this became a long rambly story. I liked it. I thought that was cool. Intel. We're finally getting some details. And this was posted by Tech Fanboy about the upcoming LGA 1151 and Z 17 zero Z 170. One set. Really? One seventy. It's like this is what Intel does when they run out of numbers. Like, OK, and LGA 1151, they're going to run out of numbers between one thousand one hundred and fifty and one thousand one hundred and fifty nine. I was pretty tired when I read this and I saw 1151 and all I could think of was like they should have had this giant ridiculous press conference and then just been like slowly put the letters on screen like LGA 11 and like and have it like fairly rhythmically and the 1150 and then like a huge delay. One and then like fireworks like crazy. Drop the bass. Dumpstep pyrotechnics like, oh, my God, it's a one. That's all I can think of. So now we've had now there's officially no pattern. Intel is officially as good at naming things as Microsoft. We've got 1156, 1155, 1150 and 1151. So we were going backwards and then a lot backwards and then a little bit forward. Ridiculous. So to be clear, guys, that's not because it's the number of the socket. It's the number of pins in the socket. Yeah. I get it. But it's going to support both DDR4 and DDR3 memory, which is pretty cool, but not at the same time. You'll have to choose. And I mean, guys, basically it's going to come down to this is like a stepping stone one. Just like how the nine I want to say nine twenty five chips that supported both DDR1 and DDR2. That's what we're looking at again. There's not going to be a big performance difference between them. It's going to be by whatever is cheaper at the time that you're buying whatever it is you're buying. The new chips that support single by 16 dual by 8x or a single 8x and two 4x PCI Express 3.0 slots. I really hope that Nvidia at some point revises their SLI guidelines so that we can have triple SLI on eight four and four. But I also kind of understand why, especially if what I suspect they're doing is doing more communication over the PCI Express bus is actually happening. Supports two memory channels with two modules each six SATA three six gigabit per second ports and 20 lanes for PCI. E total will support a maximum of three SATA Express X two ports and either for N.2 or two SATA Express. Actually, not 100 percent sure if those are completely transcribed correctly. But the original articles from Kit Guru dot net so you guys can check it out over there. And the boards will support up to 14 USB ports, 10 of which can be Intel USB 3.0 ports. But as of now, USB 3.1 is unsupported. So that's the new 10 gigabit per second USB. I would not super interested, but in USB 3.1. No, in all in because it largely because it doesn't have that. Yeah, that and these are going to be for Broadwell processors, which are that we have another article. Yeah, I'm going to scroll down to it. But upcoming Broadwell is rumored to be three percent faster than Haswell clock for clock. So unless Intel has found a way to squeeze higher clock speeds out of their chips for the first time in a lot of generations, we're not going to see like a massive paradigm shifting performance improvement. So don't don't throw away your LGA 1150 PC just yet. Yeah, not so much. Don gate was canceled and I don't know how many people cared, but you can get your money back. So if you bought into Don gate, go get your money. Well, I think that's cool. I think the fact that they're just cool that they canceled it. I think it's cool that they're giving everyone's money back. And I think it's cool that they had the balls to cancel something instead of just bringing it to market, getting a bunch of people to buy it and then it's true. Yeah, I think that this is letting it one thing that's also cool if we're going to jump on the EA to be clear. So Don gate was an EA sort of League of Legends style MOBA is that they're letting it continue operate for 90 days. Yeah, so people that did like it can kind of wean themselves off, which is actually kind of cool. So it's been in beta for 18 months. And basically what they had to say was, well, we built a game that wasn't just a clone of existing MOBAs, but that tried to push the push things forward and it didn't work. So so it's the project's off. It's done. Everyone gets a refund and we're not going to try and turn this into something that it's not. And I say, good job, EA. There's no actual negative news here. Yeah, like how is how is unless you really liked Don gate? Yeah. And like, OK, there's going to be people that really liked Don gate. Every single time that a game gets closed, there's people that get screwed over. And that really sucks. But at least they don't get screwed out of any money. Yes, they don't get any money and they don't get this like abandoned abandoned empty experience, which the game probably would have turned into and then just been depressed and had bad memories. Now they're like, I liked that game and it sucks. It didn't become a thing. That was fun. That was cool. I mean, I think the only thing EA could do to make this even cooler and for them to be like, wow, good guy, EA. And we would actually. OK, we would have we would have like some credit or something. No, what I would want them to do. Actually, that would be OK. That would work. They gave them a game, some credit in the origin store. Here's five bucks off a new game. Go enjoy something else. Hey, we're sorry about this. Yeah, that would be super cool. Another super cool thing would be if they turned the game over to some of us, turn the game over to the community and went, look, OK, that would be awesome. We're not going to support it anymore. But you know what? If you guys really want to run with this thing, go with the Netscape thing where they're like, we're kind of closing off, but you can have it. And then Firefox jumps on the train and carries it forward or or whatever it is. Whatever would actually be super awesome. Yeah, I don't think they will. But that would be super awesome. Because I think that for for like even for the open source community to try to develop a game from Square One is a bit of an ambitious project. And if they could take this even just as a framework and you a lot of it and recreate things, that would be a lot easier. Yeah, that would be that would be a very, very, very cool thing in this world of micro transaction. The actually massive companies that have this image of like, you know, good guy riot. But these are like big companies with a lot of money that like it's funny because people kind of go, oh, like Apple, like big company, therefore like bad or whatever. But these gaming companies are also like big super money driven companies. So don't kid yourself. I mean, I would think I think it would be really cool for for just a community driven project to come in and challenge something like I really don't think it will happen. But it would be awesome. Then a bunch of money would get involved and some people would rise to the top and they'd make a bunch of money. It would turn into the same thing all over again. I mean, it's just one of those things. Money is what it is. I feel like right now Ubisoft and EA are really close to each other and Ubisoft is like digging really ferociously and throwing the dirt over into EA's hole and filling it up. The word hole can never escape an awkward cause. I know. I didn't even mean that. But like EA is not doing horrible things. I know. It's amazing. It's like they care. Like they had that big patch for Battlefield 4. They gave away some free stuff to people using Sims. They aren't pulling their games out of out of Steam in the UK with the rumor being that they're going to pull their games out of Steam entirely. No, I think they did. Their Christmas launch games. Did they already? I'm pretty sure this is like a it's it's out of Steam or at least it's out of Steam in UK and I believe US. I think the outrage for this should have been at the fact that if you bought one of their games on Steam already, it was just giving it to you in Uplay and it just launched Uplay. I think that's where the rage should have been because this honestly doesn't really change anything. Yeah, you're right. You're going from not being able to buy it in Steam. I mean, you're going from being able to buy it in Steam, but realistically just having the game on your Uplay account and having to run Uplay and having to launch the game out of Uplay and dealing with all the crap that that has to just not being able to buy it on Steam and having the entire rest of the experience be exactly the same. So I think the rage should have already happened and it should have been from the forcible use of Uplay. And this should have just been piled on top of that because that was super annoying because the conversation that we had... Double DRM is lame and bad. Yes, it is really lame. It's like Games for Windows Live, that whole stupid thing with... Remember Batman Arkham Asylum? How you could get stuck and it never got patched to my knowledge until they finally just got rid of Games for Windows Live entirely. But you could get stuck in a loop where you would sign into Games for Windows Live and it would reboot the game and unless you did something, it would make you sign in again and reboot the game again and you could do it over and over and over again and never sign in. I got that game for my brother for Christmas and he never ended up playing it, not because he didn't want to play it, but because he couldn't. Did he run into that problem? Yeah. Like, it's just... I forget what the solution was. I haven't touched the game in a long time. It was so much work and eventually he's just like, whatever, I don't have that much time to sit down and play games because he worked a lot of the time. Well, he still does. So he's like, I'll just play something else. Alright, so there were rumors floating around that Zalman filed for bankruptcy. However, they have sort of spoken up now and there's going to be some kind of an official statement at some point here. But what they're saying is, well, hold on a second, no, our business is fine. It's the parent company, Monale. I used to know how to pronounce this because NCIX brought in a bunch of cases from them like four years ago or something like that. And it was like a super amazing deal or something. Anyway, so it's actually their parent company that allegedly is suspected of taking loans that it could not repay and then fabricating export documents to inflate its perceived value and get approval on large loans. Apparently they're in debt, 2.98 billion US or something like that. An unnamed employee reports that the management team was behind the fabrication. And so, yeah, apparently Zalman may still come out of this. OK, remember, just because the parent company is out of money and like bad people doesn't mean that Zalman couldn't be acquired by someone else and then continue doing business the way that they're doing it. So if you're a Zalman fan, just kind of relax for a little bit and let's see what comes of all of this. Very, very possibly still be totally fine. All right, I really wish I could screen share for this next one. Amazon Echo, the like least useful thing that I've talked about today. My comment was that it's for people that don't have like an old phone that they can put on a speaker dock and leave there forever. And your comment was? Oh, my comment was that it's for people who don't have a phone at all. So basically it's it's like it's Google Now or Siri, except it's a device that sits on your desk and plugs into the wall instead of just being in your pocket all the time. It's like it's not even battery powered. So that's why I was thinking like if you had an old phone and a speaker dock, you just create this thing. So the speaker dock is because the built in speakers on phone are probably crap and this is probably better than it. You got a speaker dock. You could easily get speakers that are way better than this thing. OK, and then just use Google. So let's go through what it does. It's 200 bucks or 100 bucks if you're on prime for a limited time. And it's a speaker. So you talk to it and you say, what's the keyword like Sirachs or something like that? I thought it was like some cheap facts. Alexa. OK, so you say Alexa to address it. Sirachs, E-fax, Alexa. They're close. So information, music, news, weather and more instantly, or at least as long as it takes for you to say, Alexa, can you please play some One Direction for me? Because that's not faster than just being like blah, blah, blah on your phone. It's controlled by your voice for hands free convenience. OK. Voice recognition hears you from across the room. So far we've got three bullet points that are all the same thing as far as I can tell. And then it's connected to the cloud. So it's always getting smarter. Now, I do have to say this. I funded. I don't know if you remember this, that stupid robot thing that I funded on Kickstarter. I funded that just because I wanted to get it. And it was going to be like a PSA about how bloody stupid crowdfunding is. By the time I ever get it, that whole message will be dead and gone, just like crowdfunding. Oh, oh, oh, Rex. It'll be like a retro unboxing, an unboxing of why crowdfunding failed. If they ever even deliver it. Like mini documentary on why crowdfunding. So the reason I think that one's going to fail is because it's supposed to do all this stuff interactively with you. And they're such a small company, they just don't have the resources to do it properly. Amazon might. So the fact that it's going to continue to learn as time goes on might be somewhat useful. But I just don't see it being any more useful than something like Google Now or Siri, which are already going to be connected much, much more tightly with the rest of your digital life and the rest of your smart home and smart car stuff the way that your phone will. So it's got Wi-Fi and Bluetooth connectivity. So it could be, in theory, connected very well, but probably won't be because this is probably some weird project that's just going to go away. I'll be floored if we ever see an echo, too. And it's got seven mics. Well, it depends if they still have Firephones left. Oh, yeah. The joke going around on the web is that's what they're doing with all the Firephone hardware. Which I find hilarious because it might be accurate. So it's got seven beamforming microphones with great noise cancellation. So even if it's playing music, it can still hear you from across the room, which I guess is neat, except that my phone doesn't have to hear me from across the room because I'm already holding it. And my smart watch I can also talk to, although I'm not actually a huge fan of the Moto 360 so far. But again, I've only spent a day with it, so lots of time for that to change. Advanced audio design. It has a massive 2.5 inch subwoofer. I'm a huge proponent for voice control stuff. Not that interested. I've been toying with this idea for a while where if I set up a server that had Dragon speaking on it, I could have... this is going to take me a sec, but this is something I've been playing with for a while. Right now it's just too expensive to properly do. Hold on, can I jump in before you do it then? Yes. Wartow? Will the Echo 2 be called the Echo Echo? Hopefully. And the Echo 3 will be the Echo Echo Echo. Sorry, go ahead. I want to set up an array of little microphones all around my place, and then have a little central server that has something like Dragon speaking hooked up to it, so that it can pick up whatever and just look for keywords. And then if I say play music... some band. One Direction. I don't have any of that, but sure. Sure you don't. Anyways, it would be able to pick that up and then actually just do that. And I could have a library of keywords that I set up and program and tell them what to do. That could actually be really cool. The reason why I would like that set up is I could be anywhere. And this thing... I don't care about those stupid server microphones. You're not going to be able to be anywhere in your house and have it work. You'd have to be within that room. Maybe you don't have to be as close to get your phone to work. Although to be completely honest, if I just talk loud enough, my phone can usually pick up if I call for it. That's how I find it sometimes. This is one of those products that I just don't get. Because the cynic in me... if it was a company that's smaller than Amazon, I would kind of go, okay, they're trying to fund the next wave by selling a bunch of these things that ultimately they have to know are going to be useless. Because ultimately, let's look at the five-year, the ten-year outlook. When you've got your Nest thermostat and you've got your self-locking... What is it? Genie door? I forget what that smart door lock is. And you've got all this crap and your house starts to get way more smart and way more connected with Internet of Things stuff. Just kind of naturally over time. Because it happens no matter what you want. Because ultimately you're going to go to Best Buy one day to buy a dishwasher. And it's going to be $20 more for the smart connected model. And you might as well just get it. So it just happens over time. And so this device will never be useful for that. Because as the idea gets bigger and the functionality gets bigger, the idea of something that sits on your desk is going to look even more stupid as every day passes. So I would look at it and I would go, okay, they're just trying to get some money to fund the actual product. But what's Amazon's excuse? Because they could afford to just keep developing this and keep working on it until something's actually ready. Amazon doesn't seem to be doing super well with the hardware stuff. Kindle's great. Okay, I take that back. Kindle is good. Maybe their Kindle hubris led them to believe that people wanted something other than a way to read books from them. Yeah. Like, your phone sucks and this Echo thing is stupid and you should feel bad. Oh, I've got someone saying Linus, I work in HVAC. Trust me when I say that Nest thermostats are a PETA. I believe you. Actually, Nest was one of those companies that I kind of went, really? You got acquired by Google for a billion dollars? Are you freaking kidding me? They've had what, like three recalls in their history? Maybe it's only two, but they were like a big deal. Like, I think their smoke detector was recalled because of something. That's not good. You don't want your smoke detector to be... Terrible. Like, awful. Like, the amount of crap that Nest has gotten away with just by being like a Silicon Valley connected Web 2.0 company is just mind boggling to me. And the idea that you need a smart thermostat is still just kind of baffling to me. I have a smart thermostat. It's called... I program it to maintain the temperature in my house at a certain threshold. And if I'm leaving the house for like the weekend, I turn it off. And then it comes back on automatically because you have a schedule for it. Like, it's not a big deal. I get that some people might save a lot of power if they keep their house at 28 degrees Celsius or whatever else. It's like, yeah, we have the sauna house, so we only want to heat it when we're actually, you know, running around naked. We're not running around naked lounging naked because if we were running, we'd be generating enough heat. Maybe one of these days I'll try a Nest and then I'll tell you guys, holy crap, I was wrong. It's revolutionary. But for now, it feels like one of those things I don't really need. It also doesn't help that my house only has two wires running to my thermostat. So I'm not even Nest compatible unless I wanted to run wires through my wall, which would involve tearing it down. Which does not sound like fun. Which is not happening. Let's not do that. All right. What else we got here? That's, I think, most of the like really big topics this week, isn't it? Yeah, we have some rapid-firing stuff. We have that dude's man cave, which we can't show because we don't have screen sharing working. Futuremark acquired by UL. That's a big deal, actually. So UL are the guys that have like a little logo. Not this one. You'll find it on a lot of different... But the charger for this will definitely have a UL logo. Yeah, so basically they do certification and testing. Really important stuff that they do. Really, really good so that, you know, your iPhone charger doesn't light on fire. That's the kind of stuff they do. And that's why buying cheapo stuff that's not certified by UL can be a little bit risky. Because they do a great job. And they acquired Futuremark, the makers of PCMark and 3DMark, with the intention of branching into... Well, basically just adding another testing benchmark. Essentially, it's just a software benchmark. So Futuremark has been developing all kinds of stuff. In the old days, it was just 3DMark. You tested graphics cards and that was it. And then they were like, oh, well, maybe 3DMark can also test physics on your graphics card. Well, hold on a second. Maybe we'll make PCMark and it'll test your whole PC. And then they've got mobile phone stuff and all this crazy stuff. That's great! Having a big company like UL behind Futuremark, turning it into something that really could be more than just this weird IT industry standard. Like if you could go to Best Buy and the PCs would be sorted by Futuremark score or something like that. That's so much more meaningful. It's not perfect. At all. But it's so much more meaningful than megahertz that I see it as a huge step in the right direction. I think it's awesome. Should we wreck Ubisoft for a little bit? Sure. Yeah, I'll let you do it. Wait, can I do the Gold Apple Watch first? Yes. Okay, so the Gold Apple Watch, estimated to cost $5,000. This is a rumor. This was posted by Pit 5000 on the forum. And it is rumored that it will debut on February 14th. Valentine's Day. Probably not an accident. There's a rumor of rose gold. Oh snap. Oh snap. Get it? Roses? Oh, I thought you meant rose because the price went up a lot from what people thought it would be. Oh snap. We're awful. We are. So, rumored to be $5,000 for Gold Edition. It's unclear whether they're solid or plated, but let me tell you guys, it's Apple. It's plated. And $500 for the steel version with the sport version, which was rumored to be sort of like just the tip of the iceberg in terms of pricing, that they unveiled being the lowest cost version. It's rumored to be 18 karat gold with sapphire crystal glass and come with a variety of luxurious strap options. It's unclear. Oh, okay, so I just said that. So, to all the people kind of running around going, Apple is overpriced and that's totally unreasonable. Shut up. Watches are overpriced and watch pricing is unreasonable. For once, it is not Apple setting the precedent here. They are just expanding into a market that is already charging way too much if you look at it from a bill of materials cost perspective. So, nothing new. Move along. $5,000 for a high-end watch is like nothing to see here, guys. Me personally, I think it's ridiculous. Oh yeah, I'd never buy one. There's lots of people that do. Never buy one. But lots of people do. In fact, even like otherwise like normal people who have real jobs might own a Rolex because that particular status symbol of a watch is very, very important to them. The one thing that I have to say about this is Apple, do this right. Even if the hardware changes on a very rapid basis, you cannot treat a $5,000 watch the same way that you do something relatively disposable like even at $1,000 a smartphone. Because if they roll out a new iteration that is dramatically better than the old one every year at $5,000, even people with $5,000 to spend on a watch are going to get pissed. So there. That's true. Tim Cook, I hope you're listening. No. The deal you did with your glasses so that you got your glasses, what was that deal? Like you had to have a certain period and not lose them or something? Oh, with my with my my Oakleys. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm I'm I'm a bit of a cheapskate. I'm also a bit of a scatterbrain. So the deal that my wife actually made with me was you can get nice sunglasses like the kind with polarized lenses and like shatter resistant lenses that look good and feel good and are like a couple hundred bucks. If you get some like cheapo foster grants at the drugstore and can manage to not lose those for a few months. And so I did. And it was actually an excellent exercise and being very conscious of having a goal to work towards to not lose it. And then I did end up earning my awesome sunglasses that I have now never lost, even though I used to lose glasses all the time. I will not have a super nice watch because and maybe I'll redo this at some time. But when I was younger, I went to the store and bought a fairly cheap one and lost it within like a week. And then was like, I will never have a super nice watch. I've done that with jewelry as well. And I'm just like, I can't just keep things on my hands because it'll it'll be annoying. So I'll be doing something like I'll have to pull something or do whatever and it will never come back. And I know that. So I will just not have one. That's fine. Well, I'll tell you what. We'll get you like a like a baby's first smartwatch. We'll get you a trainer watch before before you drop your five grand on a go buy watch. Those little tracking ones that the kids get from. Yeah, no, no, it shouldn't tell the time. It's the kind with the little balls in it that you like hold. I'll be like, look, you can game on your on your mobile. No one else can game on their watch. I'm like the only person that's fantastic. I have the highest end watch, actually. Anyways, OK, want to hate on Ubisoft for a bit? Yeah, I have an actual lower third for this. You know what? I'll go find it while you work on this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we can't show you which totally sucks. This topic is posted by the future Mark topic was posted by duck dot Dodgers. OK. And then this one, which is about screenshots from Assassin Creed PS4 version of Unity. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah is from test stranger. By the way, one of the reasons why we might have had a little bit of a lower user count was also because there's not only BlizzCon running right now, but also there is an Ubisoft stream showing off Assassin's Creed running right now. I'm amazed we even have 5200 viewers. Thank you. Thanks for showing up. I really appreciate it. I do too. I'm not super surprised that you're not watching the Assassin's Creed one, but the BlizzCon one is pretty interesting. Reasons why I'm not super surprised you're not watching the Assassin's Creed one is I tuned in for a little bit and was like, wow, this game looks super old. What? And it's not 1080p on PlayStation 4. Usually from the two consoles, we see PlayStation 4 able to step up to the plate and show off 1080p, but it is not happening. The pixel count confirms a native resolution of 1600 by 900, which is not like, oh, it has a white background. Dang it. Way to go, Burkle. Okay. Well, anyway, that's what our lower third, we should probably take that Caterpillar logo. I was just going to say brought to you by Caterpillar. Because digging. I know. Yeah, but we should we should pull that out. But that's going to be our keep on digging lower third and we're going to have a shirt coming soon. I was going to say because it's not actually brought to you. Yeah, no, it's not. Caterpillar had nothing to do with it. They might get mad about that. Yeah. So leave Caterpillar out of it. But anyway, Ubisoft, go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. So we can't really show you the screenshot right now because this thing isn't working, but it doesn't look good. Yeah, I watched their stream and it doesn't look good. Like the new COD looks better than it and I should never be able to say that. Yeah, that's that's pretty harsh burn. Yeah, no, but the new COD is like looks okay. It does animations look good. Especially in cinematics, the new cinematics in COD if you can actually get the voice track to line up with the video, damn it, is actually pretty impressive. And the in-game textures on like water bottles when you muggle up to them and stuff, it's like, wow, that's not horrible because you expect from Call of Duty that it's going to be super bad. And from the stream so far and from some of the images that we've seen about Assassin's Creed, it looks kind of bad. Like it, I don't know. We're going to have to wait and see until we have the PC version. Yeah, we'll get the PC version. Mind you, what I will say is that seeing it at the Nvidia GTX 980 event, that was where I first saw Assassin's Creed Unity footage, was not blown away. No, so I don't know. Kind of not super sure about that. Yeah, kind of not stoked. It doesn't look great. And like something that was brought up last week, which was where one of the developers at Ubisoft was saying like, oh yeah, people play these games that are like pixel platformers and they're okay with it, but then they want 1080p all the time and stuff. And it's like, yeah, it's an art style. This is why Nintendo gets away with it is they pick a cartoony art style. This is why Blizzard gets away with it. Yeah, exactly. This is why Team Fortress 2 gets away with it. It looks really good because it's a style that is not super hard to run. You picked a very realistic art style. That was your choice. And it has looked good in the past, but it doesn't look good right now. And that's on you. Yeah. That sucks. And it's about expectation management. If you're like, yeah, we're like the next genest gen that ever had 30% more gen than the gen before. And we've got like 10 billion different technologies from Nvidia and all that kind of stuff. Then that's what we expect to see. Whereas if I'm playing retro games and I'm like playing X-Wing and I'm going to, I have to fix my joystick tonight. Not that I've been talking about it. Anyway, if I'm playing retro games, well, that's my expectation. I'm not expecting it to look amazing. Speaking of things that look amazing, I found your smartwatch. Oh yes, this has to be it. So add screen region here. Yeah, baby. That right there. Well, that's the back of it. This was a suggestion from one of the folks on. There we go. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's beautiful. Pink Snoopy. Pink Snoopy for for $3.81. United States. It's 7% off. Free shipping to Canada and it's $3.80. That's ridiculous. I know, right? Isn't that amazing? Deal Extreme. Deal Extreme is amazing. It's the best place to get like obscure batteries. Yeah, yeah, that's cool. And then one that I didn't actually think was that big of a deal, but it was funny is that Ubisoft is partnered with. Let me see here who it is because it's not actually in the title. I think it's Gillette. It says Edge. Is that a company or is that Edge? Edge is the company. Yeah, I think so. Is it? I don't even know. Or it's like a model or something. We're kind of Dollar Shave Club guys. Some other shaving product. I think they're called Edge. I don't know. It's shaving cream. Anyways. You get a sword, some armor and an assassin's hood. Yeah. Okay, hold on. I will let you talk about this. Okay. Hold on for a minute. Does the style of the hood make it an assassin's hood or does the person wearing it make it an assassin's hood? So you could have like a bonnet and it could be an assassin's hood. If it's being worn by? An assassin. Right. I think so, yeah. Whoa. It should be a bonnet. Anyways, I don't think it's that big of a deal. It's just kind of funny. This has happened in the past, so if we didn't bring it up for other companies, we can't really like hammer on them too hard. But like if there's no other way to get these items, that's kind of poopy. It is nice that they're probably just cosmetic, so it probably doesn't change anything. So I don't really care about that too much. And some people have been like, oh my god, why would they partner with shaving cream that has nothing to do with gaming? And I'm like, yeah, well, your audience is whatever insanely high percentage male. So shaving cream makes sense. Are you generalizing about gamers? Yeah, actually statistics. Get rekt. So anyway, I forget what I was going to talk about, but I think that's pretty much it for the show today. I enjoyed the show. I hope you guys enjoyed it too. And part of the generalizing about males thing is that they don't have any main characters that are female. And that's actually been brought up as a problem. So maybe it's Ubisoft's fault. What they could have done is if they had at least one out of the four main characters as a female, they could have had like you get different items for the different assassins because there's the four assassins, right? So they could have had four different shaving cream bottles and you get like and like Yoko Ono. That's like not Yoko because bad singing talent is not something that is required as an assassin. No, but she could be like bad at fighting. You could have like the four musketeers and like Yoko. That that would be what the female gamers want to see. That would be gender equality. I really don't. Yeah, I really think that would go over very poorly. No. OK, that's not how it should go. That would make everything worse because it's terrible. Like not because like it was had well intentions. It's just it would make everything worse because it's dumb and bad. That would be all the digging. Yeah, that would be a terrible idea. But yeah, I think it would make sense if they had two male assassins, two female assassins, if they had to like edge whatever male version and maybe if edge has a female products. I don't know. I don't know what edge is. Everyone's just talking about Yoko Ono in the chat now. I still don't understand how John didn't tell Ono not to shave their feminists. Oh, no. Sorry. That was two different comments. Didn't tell Ono to stop her yelling. Sorry. Sometimes the chat moves as you're reading and it. Sorry. I think we're done here, guys. Thank you for watching and we'll see you again next week. Bye. Totally not whatever that company that I already forgot about was. Learning.