 Going no hey and and no it had nothing okay the name Linus tech tips had nothing to do with me being smart It had talking about What is here's why is here someone calls him no smart, it's like obviously you're talking about me Well, okay, so I've already told Paul I think his channel name is very clever, but I think almost everyone who started a channel like well before they thought YouTube would Like even be a thing Probably regrets their their name. Yeah. Yeah, like like there's that Tom's hardware like 303 like sob Kyle oh for like just all those kinds of just it's like yeah The guy makes the guy makes videos about a lot more than just sob yeah sob even exist anymore I love I love the guys on the forum whose name will be like like no offense to you If this is your name on the forum something like like GTX 780 oh So there was a guy on the old NCIX forum whose username was like Canuck 2004 and I'm like do Nothing interesting happened in 2004 Okay, 2004 was one of the best years for gaming hands down like this is actually a huge thing A halo came out in 2004 World of Warcraft's original release was in 2004 I'm trying to write no no seriously look it up look up look up top five games of 2004 If you Google you can't even share my screen right now But if you Google top games of 2004 let me do this right now because this is like this is a thing You know my next you know my next YouTube channel Okay Half-Life 2 Doom 3 Grand Theft Auto San Andreas Halo 2 World of Warcraft Far Cry Unreal Tournament 2004 War okay, this is looking like a pretty good line up speed underground Why this has been wrong before Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic fable seems to like we're not into it But giant game thief deadly shadows wasn't very good Okay, but Counter-Strike source by the transitive properties of a Call of Duty game that was still good Okay, Lord of the Rings battle for Middle-earth was better than it got credit for yeah, so there's that His tribes okay, we're painkiller Star Wars Battlefront. Okay. All right. All right. All right All right, and this is just like the end of that okay, so the guy didn't play games though So your argument falls on its face right there because not video games if it was like video games 2004 I would have been like you know what the Canucks won nothing in 2004 Yeah, but then he could have just meant Canuck Lake Lake is it derogatory Canadians yeah, don't know like we kind of embrace it, but like it I don't think there's a properly derogatory term for Canadians. Hey, I'm Paul Paul Kyle So if I were to call you guys like Yankee doodles is that offensive or is that just like folksy? I think if you add the doodle. Yeah, so what if I called you guys? What's that You want to end this interview right now cuz that's yeah, we take we take very much fence. I'm triggered Triggered I have never taken more offense to any word than Yankee then yeah, I'm sorry All right, we can say to each other because we're we are Is it a residency thing or a citizenship thing yeah, yeah cuz he's a citizen so is he allowed to Call you guys Yankees honestly, I've been called a Yankee so few times in my life, and I don't even know how it works Assumed it had some there was some like etymological History to it. I'm not gonna look up those things you know It's all about context and inflection right like probably a Yankee doodle bastard. I'm like hey, what's up, bro? But if they're like Yankee doodle dandy We got a fighter here All right, so I should know the intro at some point And then so we have Paul and Kyle on the show to talk about the totally fair and totally justified ending to scrapyard Boris 5 and And I'm gonna roll the intro They can still hear us while the intro so we have an intro Paul to see no wow Wow saying I got the gh5 I'm capturing from the gh5 That quality so many dicks on this we have we have tin foil Over top of our camera, so it's not tin foil. It's special cine foil Oh, okay, we should probably spend most of the time talking about Brandon's lighting configuration He set up here because I still haven't managed to recreate it You need to use the laundry basket yeah the laundry basket Leave the tin foil in between the laundry basket holes Have the light set behind it at just the right distance to create this Illusion of like depth and mystery to my hair when Heather saw that that first scene in scrapyard wars where it's in your garage That Brandon had lit. She was like where is that? I was like that's Paul's garage. She was like you mean that shit. Will you stream from every Tuesday? The issue with Brandon is that he asks for all this expensive fancy camera and lighting gear but then you give him like like a roll of duct tape and some chopsticks and And he manages to make it look awesome anyway, I'm paper towel Yeah, so I'm kind of sitting here going why am I spending all this money when Brandon? I used to do a team like every show literally on the planet I used to take like this Instagram series of photos Which was like Brandon's ghetto lighting setups that we would set up in hotel rooms and stuff And like okay you have to give the man credit for being able to work with like the junk that he sometimes has to work with but I don't think that's like a Credit to not needing better gear I think it's a credit to the crap that he had to deal with for such a ridiculously long time It's a matter of the definition of the word need but no that's skill versus potential Have you ever seen the website? Shitty rigs like shitty rigs.com Yeah It's all these like really poor film students who have to like build rig material camera equipment out of just like Paper and duct tape exactly like what you're saying you wouldn't look at that stuff like wow all the people on here They really don't need better camera gear. I mean it's like completely functional steady camera I would I mean if I was if I was paying the bill for the gear then yeah, I totally would that's exactly how that would Go down I Mean I remember and I actually this is this is a true story. I Actually remember making the argument to Brandon that we shouldn't get C stands So for those of you watching who are not that into filming equipment Okay, Luke's gonna go get one Luke's gonna go get one. Thank you Luke There on the C stand rack right there yes, so this is a C stand it has three feet at the bottom And then it has an extendo pole on this side here And then it has this clamp at the top or this knobby at the top that you can use to hold stuff or whatever and I'm like You have got to be kidding me. It's a little some reps It's a pole that holds something and it's like they're like $200 They're not cheap for like the big ones like that And I'm like and Brandon's like well We need a C stand so we can put our boom microphone on it And I'm like I'll show you a boom microphone, and I pull I this is back when we're operating out of the garage So I grab my motorbike Throw it in neutral roll it over and then I like prop the boom pole like out of the handlebars I'm like look problem solved. He's like no that is that is not a solution. I'm like can we record the video right now It's like yes Then it's a solution no C stand budget until someone like Does the like lean thing on the boom pole and your bike falls over yeah? Yeah, all right Yeah So news now we're talking about scrap your boys now Uh I don't know were there any news topics that jumped out to you guys do you want to talk about the leaked core i9? benchmarks Yeah, did they take that down yet, or is it still just there so it was originally posted on the forum by? Who's this? PC guy 5960 see this is this is one of those 5960 is two generations out of date now Poor PC guy poor PC guy his logo is an i7. He's going full bore. Yeah, I know I know PC guy never stood a chance not an X so basically Allegedly where are these even from? It was from hexes originally was from hexes. Let's see if they've got it. Let's see if they've got it pulled down They do not it is still up. It's still just they're just like here look at our balls. I feel like that They're just they're just They're just chilling you should you should hide those put that away people aren't ready for that yet you know I mean this is probably part of a much much deeper conversation about the desperation of the web written media Like I mean it's one thing to break an embargo with like How do I how do I pick someone? Who wouldn't be offended a data like nice people great people good product? You know you could probably survive as a tech publication without being on the best of terms with them though, but like Giving the old middle finger to Intel not in like a in like a criticizing their product way because I'll do that We're clearly down for that But in like a in like a breaking a legally binding agreement that you signed with them way There's a difference between like being overly friendly where you give like favorable reviews because you want like kickbacks or whatever and Breaking NDAs. Yeah a little bit of professional respect breaking NDAs is just being a giant jerk Yeah, and it's not just a jerk to the brand It's also a jerk to all the other publications all other publications and in this case Texas might not have signed an NDA But they did that knowing they're gonna find one under the table somewhere else And they're gonna screw over all the other guys that are working with Intel to get chips Now like all other creators whether it's text or video will probably get at least a slice less of a Views on their content when it comes out because of this so it hurts other creators, too You're being a jerk to all your friends and you're being a jerk to whatever company that's in Hexuses is legit, right? I mean they're not blacklisted to my knowledge at all Well, they're good standing. Yeah, like where did this information actually come from? That's the more interesting Usually when I see this kind of thing, it's it's it's from some like second WCCF tag video cards Yeah, yeah Publication that you know doesn't get invited to Intel's events anyway They're not on the distribution list for samples or anything like that So it's weird seems out of care this seemed like something I was like wow they're gonna pull that down pretty quickly But I'm yeah, I assumed it was an accident. It's still up So anyway, I mean generally the news is it'll be a 10 core 20 thread priced at a thousand dollars This is all allegedly because it's a rumor until my NDA expires And it performs pretty good any thoughts? Good overclocking. I mean that's that's that's good to know Yeah, I'm curious to see how the the 18 core is gonna overclock though Yeah, I would imagine like you're basically you're gonna be it's gonna come down to yeah Overclocking is gonna be on a core by core basis where you're gonna actually have to spend a long time dialing in an overclock separately for one versus two versus four versus a or ten cores depending on how the chips being hit You might need some motherboard software to you know Hopefully a suits or someone like that develops some software that can handle that sort of thing very Asus's bios has been doing that for years where you can set different ratios depending on how many cores are active Just I've never really bothered using it because there wasn't generally much difference between what you could do on two versus six cores whereas now we're talking about you know you can't be running 18 cores at 4.5 gigahertz all at the same time because it would it would melt I believe they have a software an operating system software that integrates as well where it actively just looks at Whatever executable you're running and then adjust it based on that so it makes a little bit more hands off But can we talk honestly would you install a sue software on your system? Well remember okay like occasionally What was it 2013 2014 how many issues we had with a I sweet yeah I don't remember a I sweet is banned in this building it is when you like it might even be better now But here's all of the like the black magic and spells you have to cast in order to uninstall it properly And actually get it completely removed from your system. Yeah, yeah, it's a It it's it's usually installed on systems that I set up to test a sues like capabilities like on an ace's motherboard But not much beyond that on full-time systems that I use full time and how hard installing it how hard it can? Brick that install if you ever try to boot it on something else like that's not a sues board And I'm just sitting here going how deep are you putting your hooks in like why? Why is this necessary? So I'm just looking at some of the benchmark numbers on hexes So as expected it doesn't seem to have a massive impact on gaming You know there's a little bit of fall off actually the rise in CPUs They're testing at 2560 by 1440, but the rise in CPUs are keeping up just fine the eight core ones and the six core ones 3d mark, I mean, it's just kind of that little incremental increase that you get up towards the top ends. Yeah Running VR mark, which I haven't messed around with too much. Yeah, neither have I. Me neither Maybe a few years Yeah, like Luke's checking on the baby. No Luke's not checking on the baby. My wife, Yvonne's got the baby. I'm definitely still here Yeah, yeah, that would be a bad send Um, yeah, you're not in charge of the baby Alright we've got another pretty big topic before we jump into or do you guys just want to talk scrapyard wars now? Or do you want to do one more one more topic? We're ready for your apology whenever you guys are I mean, it's hard to Alright, let's do another topic So this was originally posted by Wicked Paul on the forum different Paul. That's a wicked Paul. You're like a flaccid Paul. It's I would I would like to state that he's very much like you when he needs to be The CRTC the Canadian Radio Television and Telecommunications Commission just issued a ruling stating that cell phone service providers Can't charge for phone unlocking and that as of December 1st of this year all new phones have to be sold unlocked How much do you wish that your regulatory bodies cared about you that much? This is this is a hard subject for us to talk about That's awesome. I am super happy for you guys. Go Canada. You guys are always really nice. We're moving there soon. So Yeah Yeah Yeah, I mean this is no that's that's really cool how how unfriendly a practice is this whole Phone locking thing like what the heck you guys both bought pixels probably out of frustration with that practice, right? Yeah, I've been I've been with Verizon I think I had been with Verizon pretty much all my life like ever since the first time I ever got a cell phone for like 10 years ago whenever it was and For the first time ever I switched over to AT&T just so I could buy an unlocked pixel That's what finally got me to switch because I was just sort of sick of it You know, we've been doing more traveling going to Computex and things like that Just wanting to pop in a foreign SIM card would be nice And I just couldn't believe that my options were so limited with Verizon. So to me it is a big issue for a lot of us here I'm very happy that this happened to be to be fair though How many times did we use that site where it costs like $10? You just unlock your phone Well, it can cost more than that last time I did it. I paid like 30. Oh, really? Yeah, it depends I've done it like four or five times Probably every time was under ten more obscure models tend to require more and sometimes you just like can't even do it and Bell wanted I think it was like a hundred dollars to unlock my old iPhone 4 Like back when we first started the company and I was trying to use that as like a cheapo travel phone Yeah, and it's just like it's so frustrating and it's one of those things where like I don't You know, I don't fundamentally disagree with the the general sort of right-wing sentiment that Regulating businesses and putting a bunch of a bunch of red tape in place is Destructive to businesses as abilities to be profitable and to grow and to and to maintain themselves But just the problem is that we've seen time and time again that no matter how unfriendly their practices are And how upset it makes their customers they just they just can't they just can't be trusted with this So yeah, I guess I'm glad I'm glad that they stepped in because this is one of those things where I think it's a pretty tough argument For the carriers to go like oh you are like adding you're adding overhead and you're putting strain on our business To maintain all these separate SKUs and to and to maintain all this all this bloatware and to and to No, if anything we are regulating simplifying things Yeah, well, it's just it's just it's just purely unfriendly to consumers Exactly like and then like there's obviously a lot of things that businesses will do that are unfriendly to consumers But this is like very unnecessarily unfriendly to consumers Yeah, well, it's purely to lock people into the contract. Yeah So tell Canadian telecoms made a total of 37.7 million dollars last year charging customers to unlock their cell phones Wow, that's a lot more than I would have expected. Yep Telecoms warned this is great that if they didn't charge an unlocking fee for the few customers who want it done The cost would have to be passed on to everyone So the CRTC was like, okay. Well, then let's just not have locked phones. That sounds great Yeah, then you don't have to charge anyone a fee ever Problem solved well, look at all this administrative burden that we just lifted off of you There's so many questions I think I have to figure out a different way to make all of that money unnecessarily from people though That's a big challenge for them and they're probably gonna have to charge more people more money in order to be able to do that Okay, yeah Colton wants us to do a spot for this I want Colton to do a spot for this Colton get over here I did not say that Get over here talk about your stupid shirt Isn't this from your stream? Yes Okay. Yeah, so then I asked Nitro I was like, hey you got any ideas and then give me this and then There's a big argument whether we should have done the one Linus face in the middle Or we should have done like multiple Like six and then we went with four thought it was a good mixture I think four is pretty good And then now we're selling them we've sold a couple so you can get yours now How many have we sold? I'm curious At least ten Oh, okay Austin Evans has one One to Austin One to Luke Your mom That's forty Linus faces How many? Sorry, where? What's the URL? Designed by human Designed by human No they sold ten Linus Sold two and a half shirts Pure cancer. Alright speaking of pure cancer You guys are cheating at Scrapyard Wars Okay, so there are a lot of our viewers who feel like Who feel like I ripped a deserved victory away from you guys How would you address that? Oh, so you read all the comments on the last video of Scrapyard Wars I did, I did. I do read the comments on videos because unlike you I have a lot of positive comments on my videos That are nice to read maybe if you made better videos you would like Maybe if you stopped playing it safe and just stuck to the same routine all the time Maybe you'd actually stir the pot once in a while Yeah, like if you made this video about Intel's new processors Like you could have, you know, made it like sad and walked around in the rain And like actually given a heartfelt speech about what's going on with Intel But I don't think you did No, I don't think that Just you made the same serialized I was inspired by Jay's video I was just copying him Yeah, before It's funny Jay was on last week saying that like he had been planning to make that video And he saw mine go up and he's like I'm just gonna do it anyway Anyway, okay, okay, okay, so what say you? What say you? Because people seem to think that we're like upset at each other and that there's like bitterness Alright, so first off I think we just want to point out that we in no way are here to drum up controversy But if you guys want to argue about that and what we're here for in the comments, please feel free to go out and do so The main point I think is that there was I think there were problems with the following of the rules that happened on both sides And I think the question in people's minds Because we're not denying that We're not trying to come here and say like we didn't cheat or like that hard drive that was in there was we bought Anything like that Well you did buy it and technically at some point I might have, that might have been a sample, I'm not sure But technically it's a sample zero dollar value so We won't go down that route It actually doesn't have anything to do with that No internal tools or parts But yeah, I think if people are upset it's because they saw that there was bending if not breaking of the rules on both sides And that if you were to negate those against each other and say they cancel each other out And it just fell down to the strict performance of the systems Which in our case wouldn't have been affected at all by a hard drive for example That perhaps the higher scores and the more powerful system The RGBs which is sitting behind us and it's a nearly completed state But Paul you're forgetting that the entire victory of this entire Scrapyard Wars 5 season was determined by an unbiased competitor of the actual contest Oh wait you're right actually Jesus I forgot that Linus was the one who actually made the final call as to who won Scrapyard Wars 5 The impartial I apologize for that Okay, okay so my side of this is that I was completely ready to concede defeat knowing that rules had already been bent but not broken on both sides Luke and I might have skirted close Mr. Wears his shirt Okay look What's the Luke and I part of this? What did I do? Okay hold on You're inherently along for I mean okay look think about it this way Just because you're cheating has an aura doesn't mean that it's my fault If somebody's driving down a country road and baseball bats are being used to knock over mailboxes I'm not saying that you hit the mailbox I'm just saying you were in the car okay Technically when we were in the car there was no cheating going on Okay so anyway anyway anyway so Luke and I We're gonna cover the logo with my bags That's gonna totally work I legitimately only wear these shirts on work days because then I don't have to change my shirt when I'm filming I know but I didn't think of it I'm not gonna wear this shirt I only packed these So pack something else I didn't think of it I could have lent a shirt Okay anyway anyway the point is the point is The negotiations had been done already With everyone that we talked to before we got there So should we agree? We technically didn't get special pricing from Store Dude A lot of people thought we did A lot of people thought we did but he actually has a supervisor that he brings the parts to and they ring it up They had no idea who we were What's even more obvious than your blatant shirt advertisement Linus Even more obvious than that Is your voice Well there's nothing I can do about that You could have had Luke do the calling Next scrapyard where you need those voice modulators that you speak into and it makes you sound like Darth Vader I will admit this scrapyard was having an issue for me which is that I drove like I think it was like 430 miles in three days or something Like I just I drove In LA That was like That was like my job For this scrapyard voice was I drove You also modded the front panel Yeah Oh yeah Partially incorrectly Yes partially incorrectly Yes That didn't end up being what cost us though so I'll give you that That wasn't the problem The horrible implementation of RGB is what it cost Okay that was on me Although when I was watching it back you suggested it first But then you changed your mind It was a joke No it was 100% a joke Okay so anyway anyway anyway anyway So and okay so there's a couple things Number one is the pricing from the place where we got the bulk of our hardware was actually determined by the cashier There was the cashier and there was a supervisor that he had to call Yes There was two different people that he had to go through to get a price And the supervisor call wasn't in the video So in the defense of the audience who's like crying bloody murder about that Number two is the people who are like yeah there's no way someone would let you come in and fish through things like that You know what part of Scrapyard Wars is pushing the boundaries and finding ways to get people to make an exception for you Whether that's making vague kind of weird sexual sounding promises by email Kyle I will give you rewards that you can't possibly imagine Which have nothing to do with my influence as a YouTuber as that was never specified before the actual deal was locked into place Sexual favors approved And by the time I actually finally did exchange money for product and who I was and who you were He still had no effing idea who you were So okay so So all that whole argument is completely invalid The guy who gave the best deal of the entire thing The idea of who the hell we are So okay so anyway but my point was that people are like yeah the only reason that guy let you do that was because of who you are And you know what it's possible that he let me do that because of who I was But I wasn't the only one at the shop digging through stuff And those people weren't me There was other customers And obviously we couldn't film them Multiple other customers And going way back like 15 years ago That's legitimately where they show people things also to be clear about that part The first time I ever like took over the tech area in a shop was at the Vancouver NCIX 15 years ago as a customer I came in because I had a motherboard RMA to do and I didn't have the hardware that I needed to swap out and troubleshoot it So I brought in my board and they were like we can't do anything for you for a week I was like that's unacceptable I have to play video games Look can I just borrow some hardware can I set up a spot on a bench here and can I just swap things out and diagnose this And they're like Sure You'd be amazed what people will let you do if you just ask And if you're willing to do all of it If they don't have to do anything And if they know that you're Linus Tech Tips No but I wasn't Linus Tech Tips that's my point His name was Ash Ketchum You look like you're going to Ash Ketchum Linus Tech Tips fan because of the shirt So anyway going back to the judging So I was fully ready knowing you guys had bent rules of your own like splitting up for example Thank you Evan That was never made up front That was actually Edzel told us straight up that we could do that no problem So Edzel was screwing with you Because people were watching our side of it going why do these two go everywhere together like a husband and wife Because we wouldn't have done that Because that's the rules I wouldn't have had to spend the entire competition driving You guys did argue like a married couple Which is classic We are a married couple get over it We were under the complete impression that that was not There was no rule that we had to always stay together or anything like that I don't think that was ever discussed up front Yeah I don't think that was laid out first We technically have it on camera so like Anyway anyway anyway so so so so But the point is that's not the only rule that was bent on your side either Rules were bent But where the rules were See I would say we only broke the rule with the hard drive The other rules I would argue that we did not bend What about the money one? Not even a bend You can even tell after you guys are after Linus has done rummaging through that warehouse And by the way I feel like you guys were still striking up a few little deals Long after you had arrived and met the guy Michael face to face How much for this fan? $5 You're going to charge me $5 for this fan? He told me free first He told me first Okay a lot of this happened off camera but he told me it was free And then I was like oh you know this is a panaflow right? These are worth like 25 bucks Okay but even even so And I was like you cannot charge me for something I told him you can't You can't charge me for something that you didn't know was worth anything until I told you it was worth something That was my point And we didn't end up using the fan anyway by the way But you know what you know what said it all for me though It wasn't even any dialogue or action that had transpired It was after you guys left that warehouse and you're walking back to the car The look and just the overall expression on Luke's face You guys had done something Like you had murdered a child You were trying to get away with it Told me everything that wasn't shown on camera Whatever you want to say Luke I've never seen Luke so in distress You just I didn't like the I did not like the That they knew who Linus was That bothered me And I didn't like it either But again So we had talked to him multiple times on the phone And the deal we ended up with actually wasn't quite as good as what he agreed to in our initial phone call and forgot about So that's another key factor Going way back to our first phone call He was like yeah yeah yeah we can We got all kinds of stuff it's amazing this place is amazing We showed up there they had like one CPU Like the place actually wasn't as good as what was kind of sold to us Alright I think he's like trying to Make this like gaming parts sales outfit out of that shop Cause he's like trying cause his boss didn't do that before They didn't care about the gaming parts they just wanted to resell all the like business PCs Yeah like workstations and office computers and stuff like that So I think he was trying to get us in there pretty hard because he's like trying to show his boss that there are customers for this at all So okay okay Yeah so that's my defense So the one clear and obvious just red card violation of the rules then was using your own hardware That was why And you guys and this is something that also wasn't shown on camera That Luke and I will be pulling the footage out of the archives and showing it at our LTX Expo That at the time you guys fully accepted the referee's decision and it's only now you're fighting it You guys are fighting it This is because we had not seen your half of the show Exactly We didn't see any of the collusion that was going on between you and sellers of hardware Collusion Our cheat was found out on the spot Your cheat was found out a month or two several months after the whole series had already been shot edited and posted to the public So we gave you guys the benefit of the doubt assuming they would never do something Their hands are totally clean Linus He kept it super clean for five though Stand up guy that Linus You also have to consider that Edzell is the one that edited this Yes And he's a bit of a troublemaker and a bit of a pot stirrer You know what in Edzell's defense pot stirring gets views and creates situations like this which are interesting to watch So I'll tell you what guys Reality TV 101 Let's leave it up to the audience We ran a straw poll It's the most infallible way of determining any No any dispute So it's closer than I'd like In their defense I think they also ran a straw poll and they won on theirs by a lot more than we won on ours That's true Okay yeah but their viewers hadn't heard both sides of the story That's also true They had viewed the entire four episodes Yes but they hadn't experienced all four episodes No one's experienced the proper outro Votes are rolling in fast now IMAX Votes are rolling in fast now That would be freaking awesome Like renting out an IMAX and just playing like a marathon of the entire season That would actually be a really fun like event Speaking of events do you guys have any interest in coming up here for LTX? When is that? I don't remember Oh no we're falling down Oh I got The votes are coming in really fast Oh we're getting close we're in four points We're getting up there towards four points Anyway you guys don't have to commit or anything but I think it's in August I'm gonna say Is it in August? I thought it was the end of July I can't remember you know what it's on the hold on I'm gonna navigate away from there for a second What are you guys doing there? July 29th Basically it's a tech conval Conval? Okay Yeah so it's a con and it's a carnival So we actually have like game against Deadzill in CSGO So we have like actual like gaming focused booths We have like Luke's running like a VR thing where people can just like try VR if they haven't which is cool But then we also have like a bungee run Where you just like run as far as you can and then like a bungee cord you stretch it as far as you can And then it like rips you back into like a big cushion So you have to do it in socks and sandals right? No no I don't even think you're allowed to wear sandals on it So we've got a case toss So we are doing the case toss I believe even if we don't find a sponsor for the case toss I don't even care we're just gonna do it Okay yeah because I've had so many questions Like one case brand was like oh oh why would we want anyone to do that? Why would we want someone to damage our case? I'm like who cares? Obviously it's not about that Why buy another company's cases? I know I can say there's a thermal take Thermal take? Their offices are near here and I've gone through there And they have two dumpsters in the back that are just full of dead cases Case graveyard? Yeah that they decided they apparently can't even use for scrap or anything and they're just all dead cases That's not even the issue they just got like offended that we would think that they would be okay with someone throwing their product What about the type of vendors you want to market to or market with? Ask Josh, ask Freckle Josh Freckle Josh would be totally going to blow up a case or something Oh yeah he's shotgunned one before right? He shoots up his cases with high powered heroin Wow this is kind of incredible we have twice as many votes now maybe more than twice as many votes and it stayed exactly the same That's exactly where you want to be when it comes to the controversy Get the controversy eyeballs How's your Scrapyard Wars machine back there doing by the way? Is that part of your set now? Yeah well it's great to finally be able to have it out there for people to see and everything Hiding it for like three months? I'm sorry that your guys' build isn't available anymore I would have expected that if you put so much time and effort into it you would want to keep it free now as a memento or whatever But since you guys left most of the bulk of it here I believe it ended up in the recycle bin In the recycle bin yeah that's fine I understand That's probably fair I understand I understand Luke's Dremel work was I did take some pictures of it before Okay that would have been good if you had a reinforced blade I did find my reinforced blades but that was another thing that I just couldn't believe especially watching the episode I have a sawzall right there Okay okay okay Right there and I have metal cutting blades for it and I have my... What else do I have? I have my other saw over there too Yeah there it is That was easy You're gonna do an internal hole on a panel Yeah come on a window you would cut out a window with that Get real I'm just saying if you lost your cutting disc and you were like there's nothing you could do Because that's what you guys said at the time One I didn't see that Two you're gonna do... how are you gonna do that? And three in response to all the viewers who were like there's a hacksaw right behind you We had like 18 minutes Yeah We had like 18 minutes they're like yeah wrap electrical tape around a hacksaw blade and go ham Like it's steel and we have 18 minutes My jigsaw though there's a jigsaw on the shelf for everything Even the jigsaw that would have been a pretty rough hole like if you're not using a rotary It would have done it Well it would have cut through it It's tough to get like really clean cuts even with a dremel though No it's not I like actually do that all the time Yeah Do you want to do any finishing on the edging? Like you don't do any filing or anything like that? Without a file if you angle the blade and use the flat part of the blade you can still file it down that way Luke's cheating I've actually done this like a lot I do believe you there actually MNPC Tech they have an old school video on doing that Where he goes over that technique and everything so I do believe you there And honestly I do wish that I had remembered at the time where my cutting blades were Because that wasn't something that I had intentionally wanted to keep wearing Okay we wouldn't have won the RGB part anyways No No you wouldn't have Ours was way cooler than ours was We would have felt even better because it wouldn't have been like wow we obviously should win this It would have been like wow that was close Our plan with the windows I don't think it would have been close I think you still would have destroyed them Our plan with the windows was to have the windows and then we were just going to take literally the pile of RGB lighting And just throw it in the case So like it wasn't actually going to be a lot better We were going for like a hashtag irony like cancer implementation of it in the first place RGB cancer yeah It was just supposed to be a slightly more sensible one The RGB protests make it super ironic over the top Yes exactly that was kind of the idea Jay really likes that kind of dark take on things too so that probably would have played well with him Yeah I mean although we couldn't have competed with again more rule bending the bribes that some people had for the judges Which really held no weight in the end we didn't even present it I don't even think of it as showing that We meant to have that there with our system that didn't work out for whatever reason so we had to present that later on That was fun just sent from England though so we couldn't just leave that Yeah it wasn't but if it was included in the money that they had for the event that's actually completely over Then it would have been completely above board Yes That's technically a thing you could bribe the judge It would just have to come from money that was for your computer Luke's done it I have So you bought candy for the tech showdown Scarpeyard wars All we have to do is give all the budget money to the judge upfront like we don't even need a system Here's 500 dollars for your cash Well as long as you only want 10% of the possible score then yes Then that would work out perfectly Damn those rules And you had a judge with very poor morals Was anyone else blown away when they saw viewers being like what are you guys talking about March Was this really filmed like three months ago Yes What do you mean if you see a 10 minute video it clearly takes 10 minutes to make 10 minutes ago I enjoyed all the people giving me advice after like the first one or two episodes had aired of how we should go about doing things next I got some tweets and I saw some comments saying oh you guys should do this Then you could totally win I had a few people trying to give me suggestions on where to buy things And like actually really good ones I was just like I can't use this anymore I had someone who was like really positive like they were like they had my back Someone else was criticizing something about the show and they were like well you know what it's really expensive to produce I mean you know with a week in between they've got to be like flying up and down all the time between their studio in LA to make their other videos I was like oh dude I appreciate it but like no Oh yeah I saw that comment it was Luke Yeah No no that isn't how it works Anyway We tried to fly up and down Someone's suggesting in Twitch chat that we do a follow up to this Just like a score settler okay Where there's no budget You only get to use your YouTube fame to acquire parts We have actually considered it Yes we have considered it I mean that would probably work to some degree Yeah Just all the reviews you've ever gotten I would feel so weird doing that Be like hey I get hardware for free all the time please give me something You should give me something But I'm sure there would be people who would be happy to do it you know if they get a shout out and all that kind of stuff Which is awesome Ego wars Ego wars I don't know Luke and I have actually discussed that concept before With like some pretty detailed specifics And the reason we didn't do it because ultimately it would just end up being who can build the best rig with at that time 6950x's, dual titan xp's, 128 gigs of ram and like a massive SSD raid array You're gonna get it all that's the like problem with it Because they're just gonna be like okay give it back to me when the show's done Because we had even talked about it as like because remember we didn't tell you guys what the challenge was gonna be until we got there Because we didn't decide until we were sitting in the airplane waiting for our connection or in the airplane in the airport waiting for our connection on our way down there And we were like okay what should we do and that was one of the ones we pitched I was like oh they're down in city of industry area So literally every tech brand is there Why don't we do use whatever connections you want get whatever you can To cap off the like ego wars like ego wars idea You could have like state the area that the judging is gonna happen And then just get a totaled average out of all of the fans that show up So it's like literally just an ego competition Like you can post the benchmarking results and everything but they get to decide which one they like think is better The problem is that I am for some reason so unpopular can't imagine why That whenever it is a popularity contest So because you might lose you're not okay with doing it at all Yes which is exactly why I'm so unpopular That's risk management right there Oh my goodness oh man Alright you guys did say you had to go after half an hour do you have to go We can hang out for a few more minutes if you guys have more interesting stuff to talk about Well we're running right up against our sponsor spots so we were thinking we kind of had to do that so If that's a good time for us to cut out then that would be okay with us Okay sure well okay so once more thank you guys for being part of the whole thing I hope it was legitimately fun even though you only got a consolation prize We had a good time as much as we hate to admit it it was fun Scrabble wars was genuinely really fun It was great I think especially since it was like the old school Linus media group Guys who came down here that was really cool to hang out with you guys so Of course you know we're still super pissed that we lost and everything but thank you for having us on Scrabble wars and for bringing us on WAN show We'll hold these dear to our hearts we really will We'll be in our hearts forever Alright thanks guys thanks guys Bye everybody See ya Bye hero Bye hero He's down there looking his butt That's Paul's dog for those of you who 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Actually fine It's not even that Oh look at that we do have another pack Yeah, like I think there just wasn't enough You know how there's like you can actually see the like spicy stuff on this jerky I think maybe those two little bits like Alright, there's a full package baby I've always got a full package for you Oh just the smell, the smell is savage as they say Alright, now we actually have a new sponsor on the show for you guys today Spectrum Oh I guess we don't need these anymore Yep So James has actually been using these for quite a while at his station So staring at a monitor all day It's actually no secret that the blue light can be more harmful for your eyes than some other wavelengths and spectrum Basically aims to make their glasses an affordable long-term solution to staring at a computer screen all day You can use software solutions like Flux and Twilight But they don't give you the same type of filtering that glasses do Features include being stylish and I'll let you guys be the judge of that I think we look great though Yours look good I have no real context for But like if I look at that I only see this Oh right you can't look at it straight on Because it's like ehh I think you look beautiful Thank you High quality, they've got a one year warranty And low color distortion So the idea is to block high energy blue light while keeping colors as similar as possible They're the highest rated among competitors on Amazon And they're primarily focused on the Canadian and US markets But they will be expanding to Europe and will offer shipping internationally So you can check them out at spectrumglasses.com slash collections slash products Or at the link below the video Use offer code Linus to save 10% I'm still doing okay I'm having some more jerky Really? You can handle the ghost pepper now I wonder if it's just Tolerance? Because we've done this so many times Yeah maybe Like literally maybe Because there was one show where I ate the ghost pepper and it wrecked me Or was that the Reaper? I thought it was this one I thought it was both to be honest It's hot, like it's really hot but it's not like I know there's been times where I can't handle it They should have like random little I'm going to keep talking about Savage Jerky, I do this a lot They should have like a challenge pack Hmm That's like a little bit of like all of their spiciest ones That's a good idea And you can like give your friend as like kind of like a joke gift or something Yeah Like a challenge pack of beef jerky, like see how hot they can get That's actually a very cool idea They'll probably watch this spot and they will probably Make a challenge pack Because that would actually be super interesting At least consider it Yeah Alright, we've got some big news here The original article is from Bloomberg Call it like the government Facebook chases television's 70 billion dollar stash With its own video series So Facebook is apparently This is crazy Starting to fund the creation of video series that will begin to appear on Facebook.com So they're closing deals for their first batch of shows Which will be available via a new video tab on Facebook That is not there yet By funding original programs Facebook hopes to entice more production companies To upload premium video And will use them to siphon advertising dollars away from television I mean here's an idea Facebook If you guys are really serious about video Why don't you actually share some of the ad revenue With the people who are already uploading video on your platform Like we upload to Facebook but we don't get paid for it So yeah that would be maybe a thing you guys It's interesting that seems to be the flavor of the month Like self produced proper TV shows that you host on a website You know what I'm saying? Like Netflix kind of blew the heck up And then instead of redistributing everyone else's stuff Started going really really hard with making their own things And actually canceling contracts for redistributing other people's stuff And more being a platform for making their own things Amazon Video is doing it like crazy now Facebook is doing it YouTube is trying to make their own show like content on their own premium platform It actually kind of blows me away that YouTube has been so incredibly unsuccessful at it Yes but they're trying Yeah it's just like it's kind of remarkable Yeah Anyway they're funding two kinds of programs Hero shows will be expensive series from established TV producers That will take a few months to produce And spotlight shows will be cheaper videos from publishers like Vox and BuzzFeed All shows will be episodic and designed to spark conversation among Facebook users What do you think? Facebook has paid celebrities to use its live video feature And encourage TV networks and movie studios to stream live events and trailers on the social network for free promotion But this is a whole other thing I think it's kind of interesting What's getting a little bit frustrating for me is now that there's all these platforms We have the same kind of issue that we had before Like on TV Yeah Where if the idea was that okay you buy your cable subscription and you've got access to all your content And now it's becoming more and more fragmented And then there's so many different channels now you need all the different packages And it's like oh my goodness this costs so much now Need that too This costs so much now Which is frustrating And then now everyone has their own platform Yep So now it's like oh before if I wanted to watch TV shows If I wanted to watch TV shows I would just subscribe to Netflix And now it's not even that like I'm not even just saying this because of Flowplain But my main frustration is that it's actually all in different places So here's one argument And it doesn't actually help with the last thing you just said But I had already kind of committed to saying this before you said that So now I'm stuck At least even after you subscribe to Netflix and Hulu And Amazon Prime Video and YouTube Red And Facebook Video I don't even know if they're going to charge for it HBO Go And Flowplain Even after you subscribe to all of those things You're still paying less than what like Nick pays for his cable TV subscription So if you're a cord cutter No I hear that It's not that I still think it's better to be a cord cutter It'd be nice if it all consoled It'd be nice if Plex could just Yeah Like that would be Bring it all together You know what? Plex make that Because that's honestly my biggest complaint Is that I have to go all over the place And like it's a little bit frustrating because Even with all these bajillion different platforms I still can't get everything I want to watch Star Wars Rebels I can't You can't do it in Canada legally Like yeah I know there's like multiple many different ways to pirate it But I found while trying to buy it legally Because I couldn't find a way to find it legally And there was all the pirate ones right at the top Because it's so difficult To be fair for the people that don't know We're in Canada That's why it's a problem Yeah In the states it's not a problem Wow Just by the DVDs I have to do it at the end of the season That's what I'm doing I bought the first two seasons on DVDs Viewers on the show have tanked since Paul and Kyle left We should get them back Paul, Kyle, come back Please help us Yeah Alright moving on to our next topic then The iPad Pro outperforms the MacBook Pro in some CPU and GPU tasks The original article here is from 9to5Mac And it was posted by HeyYo on the forum Now to be clear we're talking about Geekbench I think in this case Which is not the be all and end all of performance benchmarks necessarily And this is very much an apples to oranges comparison But they stacked the 2017 and 2016 MacBook Pro with touch bar models up against four different iPad Pro models And put them through a series of Geekbench and GFXbench tests looking at CPU and GPU performance Yeah I'm usually really against like just blindly hating on things But oh this in the chat said comparing crap with crap great And I just I just it was good I like that one Well the MacBook Pro is not the latest one like But I think what he's saying is like Like yeah but it's probably by not a huge amount And like I don't know if this is going to influence anyone's purchasing decision so No because they're completely different devices It's like saying that your toaster outperforms your oven in some benchmarks That's nice and they both heat stuff up like they're similar in that way But in much the same way that you wouldn't you know edit video in a serious way on an iPad Pro You wouldn't bake a turkey in a toaster so But you could Not the whole thing not a toaster oven Well okay okay you could make turkey in a toaster If it came to that Well there's a way So the apparently the 12.9 and 10.5 inch models did edge out both MacBook Pro models And for multi-core CPU performance though the MacBook Pro came out on top But in second place the 2017 one in second place was the 10 and a half inch iPad Pro So a couple of caveats the benchmark tests are not necessarily anything to do with real world MacBook Pro models have larger higher resolution displays than the iPad Pros Which play a role especially in GPU tests and iOS's software is nearly perfectly optimized for the devices it runs on Whereas there's a bit more room for error when it comes to Mac OS Okay I don't know if that's necessarily a valid Yeah that doesn't make any sense I don't know how that ended up in the notes Alright leaked AMD's epic 7000 series We don't have Xbox One X news in the dock Xbox One X oh yeah do you want to talk about it It's not in the dock I can go find a thing I know the name is stupid Yeah cool again So AMD epic 7000 apparently it's supposed to launch on June 20th oh wow okay that's really soon So oh okay no maybe this is just the NDA lifts So it's supposed to be according to this article up to 32 high performance Zen cores 8 channel DDR4 memory with up to 2 terabytes of memory supported per CPU 128 PCI express lanes An integrated chipset whatever that means I think they just mean an onboard memory controller Maybe they've brought some more stuff onboard And socket compatible with next generation epic processors So AMD has talked about this they have a plan for Zen moving forward this is not a one and done So the idea is no compromise on one socket something something something a bunch of grass And oh look at that they've got like a whole a whole lineup showing how they plan to compare against the existing V4 Xeons Very cool alright They're going to have up to 180 watt server chips Holy actual moly that's incredible alright then Cool so that's all rumored though we don't know any of that for sure Another rumor this was posted by Nvidia Intel AMD love triangle on the forum Well that's a that's a username that will never get unfunny because that's sure not happening Upcoming this is originally from Guru 3D Upcoming GeForce GTX Volta cards apparently to use GDDR5X not HBM2 like some of their high end workstation cards So the GP100 actually already uses HBM2 and to my knowledge the Tesla What is it the V100 or whatever it's called the new one the Volta based Tesla card Oh yeah so that one is going to use HBM2 as well But no the rumor here is that let's have a look here While HBM2 would offer potentially some performance improvement it is simply too expensive for consumer products at this time And if the rumored pricing of AMD's What are they calling it Frontier? Frontier Edition? Frontier Edition yeah I'm pretty darn sure it's Frontier Edition Yeah Vega Frontier Edition if the rumored pricing of Frontier Edition is anything to go by Looks like it's going to be around $1200 to $1800 then I think that that may that may just be the case And there might not be a whole lot we can do about that I'm going to try to make this very quickly I don't understand what this means Okay so I think that's pretty much I think that's pretty much it In terms of all content? Oh wait whoa whoa hold on a second what is this? This isn't real what is this? What? Hold on a second InsideEdition.com is this real? Who? A 70 year old great grandmother is opening up after surviving five days trapped in her car after crashing 40 feet down an embankment Five broken ribs a broken back She told Inside Edition she was in pain but considers herself lucky Bob! What? It wasn't too long before her family grew worried her nephew Bob Bob? Bob B.S. Mons? Bob Bob Stewart? That's freaking awesome! No way! When Bob saw the car for the first time after her rescue he got emotional as the memories came flooding back that's understandable When I first heard a voice I was just looking over the edge the more I looked the more I could see the brush was disturbed a little bit Holy crap! Bob you're a badass! Their only clue was a ping from a cell phone tower that covered several miles along route 12 which is about two hours out of Seattle We didn't know if we were looking for just a car or just the phone he recalled they had to search hundreds of roads nearly impossible to access Holy cow look at the car Oh no this is a different one never mind that's motorists crashes into swimming pool I don't think there's pictures of this Wow way to go Bob so I misunderstood the headline here scrapyard wars 4 champion saves a life I was like I thought I was reading 5 and I was like I'm sure Paul and Kyle might have mentioned that Also they didn't win and so neither of us saved a life recently Wow! So yeah Bob from B.S. Mons freaking found his wow Way to go Bob You the man man Oh this is great so originally posted by Linus Touch Tips on the forum wow whatever that means Original article from Guru3D Razer launches a new blade stealth with a 13.3 inch display and a new gunmetal color option So if there was any doubt in my mind before as to whether or not I am in Razer's good books right now this pretty much seals it I didn't hear about this until I read it in the news So there you go Alright so I think that pretty much wraps it up for this week's WAN show thank you guys very much for tuning in we will see you again next week same bat time same bat channel Xbox One X News you can read all the specs on their website ours Technica has a really good breakdown of specs of like all the current edition consoles Which is actually pretty cool so check that out I will post that in the chat just in case you're looking for it the name is really dumb The again just like always the name that they had before Xbox Scorpio was pretty freaking cool and they just canned that went with Xbox One X I guess so that the acronym still is Xbox So that's weird but okay everything's okay that's about it true 4k but like what games are going to support it pretty sure ours answers that too go check that out True 4k on that GPU apparently it's true 4k Whatever see you next time Yes Joe she'll be streaming to me This guy says Luke indie game dev here would you be interested in a short two player game on one keyboard based on the WAN show intro and you'd have to drag the sofa in together Is that a game you could play it instead of running the intro I think we're good I mean I can't speak for you it was addressed to you No I think that's okay does that just mean I have to carry the whole couch and you just don't really play I don't know you play for like the first half and then I stop Great game 10 out of 10 IGN