 blah blah blah thing about livestreaming or broadcasts Why is it giving me these messages now? It's never shown me these before Just go for it Oh, so it's recording anyway, so Yeah Oh, we're live? Yeah, Twitch is giving me some, or rather, Xsplit is giving me some error that You have the stage res- yeah, I'll show you guys the error because this is a stupid, stupid, stupid error Check this out You have a stage resolution set to over 1920 by- Oh, that's weird Look at that, I'm dragging the window around but you guys can't see it It looks like Xsplit hides itself from itself so that it won't interfere with itself And of course I've screwed up the hotkeys for tonight So I cannot use my keyboard to switch from one view to another Hi, I'm Linus And I'm Slick See? Linus Tech on Twitter, Slick PC on Twitter If you guys are following on Twitter you'll already know That we had some technical difficulties tonight So I'm gonna sort of share those with you really quick Because, oh man, it involved some not cool stuff So, number one is that that is my dinner, which I have been eating And number two is that that there SSD right there has Windows 8 on it Which wouldn't normally have been a problem for us except that we didn't have any of our software set up properly And we were not able to get that there Blackmagic Intensity Pro Capture card working with it So then we had some issues with the Quadro card here outputting to DisplayPort Which we thought would work fine with a perfectly DisplayPort See that DisplayPort in? Enabled monitor but it ended up not working So then what happened next? We couldn't find any drivers for the motherboard We couldn't find any drivers for the motherboard's LAN for that one So I had to bust out my laptop But then we switched back to the shuttle anyways and just tried to fix it And then we couldn't get that to work and then I touched the keyboard and it just worked Yeah, I mean this is kind of like last time I got the Blackmagic card working Where I was in the middle of... I spent I think over a course of two days A grand total of about seven hours on it And what finally happened, like I tried changing every setting And then what finally happened was I changed one setting and then the system blue-screened And then it rebooted and everything worked perfectly And I was like, this is bad because it's the very worst kind of troubleshooting When you actually don't know what you did to fix it Because then when you have the issue again, you end up 35 minutes late for a livestream Sorry It's all his fault, you know No Okay, hold on Okay, who removed the ADATA drive? You told me to remove it I didn't know that was the only one that was set up for it Who removed it? I removed it You removed it from the P280 So whose fault is it that we didn't have our streaming computer? I didn't realize that we wouldn't have a backup of the only drive that we have set up for streaming Because I'm not the one that's done every single stream Well, you were there for what? You know what? I don't think there's any way I don't think I'm going to be able to successfully blame this on you I can try though All right, I'm just signing into Twitch TV so we can have a look at the chat And see if we have any audio issues that we're of course not aware of at all Because we haven't even looked at it yet Here, hold on, hold on Channel, channel, go to the channel Of course I have to click this to show you guys Oh, oh, oh, that's going to be a problem There we go, got that fixed No audio issues Hey guys, speaking of audio issues, is the audio level okay tonight? Oh, funny story, actually awesome story Did I tell you about this? I don't think so So I was telling Diesel People are complaining about the audio levels on this camera It's driving them crazy And he's like, oh, that's funny It's an $8,000 camera And a $300 or $200 or whatever dollar microphone There should be no audio level issues, right? No And I'm like, no, no, they're complaining about it And I tried it, I cranked the dials all the way up to 10 And it didn't do anything, it didn't help at all And he's like, oh, yeah, that's really weird And then he's like, oh, you know you have the audio input level set to auto, right? And I was like, what do you mean set to auto? He's like, oh, yeah, yeah, if you want to use the manual dials You have to turn it off auto mode I'm like, what do you mean I have to turn it off auto mode? Nice Yeah, so it took him a matter of 15 seconds to embarrass me And not be stumped at all by the thing that had been driving me and the audience crazy for ages So what all did we film today? Storage spaces Okay, so Windows 8 storage spaces, we filmed that today Digital green drives Oh yeah, WD has a new green drive you guys Maybe we'll talk a little bit about that on the livestream Pretty cool, do you think it's cool? Yeah, it's a lot faster Way faster, way faster green drive, good stuff And 3D balancing is always good What else did we film, I think what, five episodes today? You finished off the tablet Oh yeah, we did a closer look at the Asus Vivo tablet Wow, the table was almost just knocked over Excellent Yeah Yes The HP Elitebook Yeah, we checked out an HP Elitebook So I did an unboxing of that Elitebook already But we did kind of just like a closer look at it Some, you know, some glamour shots of it with a better camera I think there was one more Extreme Edition 3960 vs. 3970 Yes, new Extreme Edition So we did five NCIX Tech Tips episodes today And then we rushed home driving safely At exactly the speed limit In my car Navigating carefully between all the other cars Got here as quickly as we could And then I was like, slick, you idiot You took the bootcamp out of your car I'm not going to let you blame me for that, it's not my fault So anyway, we're alive, we're good Everything's cool And here you go, if you're not following us on Twitter Make sure you're following us on Twitter Oh my goodness, you know what I just realized? Remember how I said we had to put together the judging for the Oh no For the keyboard nerd rage contest, you know what? We can announce it immediately after Yeah, you know what guys? We are going, we did a boo boo Because we were supposed to sit together for a few hours today And do all the judging for the contest And we got tied up filming content And then we got tied up doing this So tell you what guys Right after this live stream Which ends, unfortunately Which ends in about, we go to what, 9 till 10.30? So we'll maybe go to like 10.45 today So it ends in about an hour We will judge them and we will upload a video immediately To the Linus Tech Tips YouTube channel Announcing the five winners of Corsair K90 keyboards So I'm very sorry for that guys But yes, that will be coming Let's do a little bit of Twitter interaction Before we go much further here Yeah, we need cat tips Okay, I'll bring in the cat Rocket, come here Where's Rumble? Yeah, where is Rumble? Rumble! Oh, here he comes Good boy, come here Come on, come on Come here Rumble, come on There you go I'm bringing the cats Okay, the cats have officially joined the live stream There we go Okay, so no more complaints about not enough cats of course Have you heard of a program, Start8? It brings the start menu back to Windows 8 Actually, there's a few things that bring the start menus back to 8 Samsung has a proprietary thing Slick heard about something as well What was it called? Someone posted on my Twitter I don't remember the exact name of it But I think it was made by either RocketDock or Stardock And it's supposed to just be amazing I haven't tried it yet, but I'm planning to Okay, so we'll give that a try We'll see if we can figure it out Honestly, the issue we had with Windows 8 tonight was related more to I think the Blackmagic card not having Instead of Windows 8 Maybe quite the right thing going on Command-O-D stuff Yeah It barely kind of works with Windows 7 It's not surprising it has problems with Windows 8 I mean, we did some playing around with an AverMedia card The LiveGamer HD Was that Wednesday? That was Wednesday That was Wednesday Honestly, holy crap Like, NCIX Tech Tips episode But I swear we shot most of it in real time Because it was just like It just worked It just worked right away Yeah And like we went from streaming from a PC to streaming from an Xbox And it was literally just unplug, plug, instantly working Yeah, that was just incredible And it has the benefit of doing on-the-fly H.264 encoding for the content So you don't end up with huge, huge, huge files Which is really, really cool Slick, good question for you Will you be getting a new oil-cooled PC? No time in the near future If I do, I have like a grand plan for what I want to do with the oil-cooled PC While I had it, I had a lot of people saying, oh, why don't you put fish in it? Because fish can survive in oil But what I actually really want to do is mount a smaller fish tank Don't make fun of the viewers It wasn't the viewers saying that though It was like friends of mine, which is embarrassing But you can mount a smaller fish tank within a much larger fish tank And mount it up on like say a plexiglass block or something And have a water fish tank with the mineral oil fish tank within it So for those of you who haven't seen Slick's old oil-cooled PC I'm running it in the window next to him here Very, very cool You want to just do a quick run-through explaining sort of what these guys are looking at right here Stock cooler, stock Intel cooler, are you serious? Yeah, no, it's fine, it's absolutely fine I had a custom cooler in there, it made absolutely no difference actually Oh, look at that ugly guy There we go Let's go back to the cool computer I can't actually point at it because my hand goes off the screen I'll point with the mouse, here, see? Okay, so the white label Yeah, here? That's a pump Yeah, okay That just pushes the oil back in Dominator memory Dominator memory Like a boss, what board is this? The 750i for the win Ah, yes, 750i, so LGA 775 Don't worry, we've upgraded Slick's machine since then What about some of the, okay, talk about the challenges of running an oil-cooled computer Okay, I ran it for like four years Some people message me and they're like, oh, I built an oil-cooled PC And then I took it down two months later and I had no problems, it was really easy When you start moving it around all the time Like I moved to Victoria and back with this, like I carried it in my arms on the ferry How much did this thing weigh? A lot, I never actually like weighed it But it weighed a ton and like I had to carry it with the radiator attached and everything on the ferry Oh, I should show them, I should try and find the radiator here Yeah, see there, there, look guys So the radiator's here, that's a Quad 120 mil radiator And so it's just not like permanently attached It's not fixed, it's not fixed in any way, it's just hanging with the tubes there So I had to one-arm the entire computer and all the oil And then like hold the radiator there so it didn't torque the hell out of my tubing And then like some random stuff like oil hardens like cables and plastics And it will climb when it heats up, I'm looking down there And it will climb when it heats up So I had the I.O. for my computer coming up the top of the tank As you can see in the video Oh, they can't see anymore, okay fine, there As you can see in the video, there's the I.O. and my hard drive So the oil would climb up out of the top of the computer and go along the cables And like a little bit of it would get on my table, all the cables would harden Like my cables for my ducky, which is so unfortunate The nice detachable cable for my ducky is completely solid And in this like slightly snake formation Awesome, so what would happen if you actually tried to... It would break, it would straight up break The plastic cracking on the outside would break The wires on the inside are fine, but like exposing them is a terrible idea Right, okay, right, so what you're saying is you'd never do it again I would actually, but there's the big plan It's so much work Yes, but this would be once I have a house so I'm not moving it And this would be a way bigger budget so I can add different things in like shielding so the oil can't climb It's a stupid project because it is no better than doing something like three triple radiators in a rad box And then water cooling every possible component But it's fun and different and interesting And I can have fish on it Yeah, but if you used a rad box then you could run it outside Then you have like the best temperatures possible Because it never gets cold enough here in Vancouver that it would actually freeze if you're actually running it all the time So you could have like, I can do that too I'm not saying that I'll absolutely do an oil computer Oil will get way too viscous if it gets that cold So I won't put it outside, I meant I could do that as well But then your temperatures would suck compared to water But I can put it on, like I can, they can't see that No one even cares because your idea is bad No, it's cool So like something like this, I guess if it was shorter You could put a fish tank in that little alcove and then put the computer within it And then you could hook that up to the TV So you're just going to run a big fat HDMI cable all the way across your ceiling Then you'll have big ugly fixtures on your ceiling like that See, that's what happens when you run cables all over your living room You don't have to run it all over your living room If you're doing a crazy setup like that I'm pretty sure you could afford one red mirror cable And you could afford to go into the wall I'm pretty sure that the... Okay, fine, let's talk about your dead graphics card now As I pulled everything out of my system, my 260 died Yeah, oh, died, really? Do you think that was related to running it under oil for two and a half years? It was longer than that, but yeah, probably, that's probably true Oh gee, 260 is still a decent card That's a real shame If nothing else, it could be a dedicated PhysX card Borderlands 2 What? Borderlands 2 is ridiculous You could run it on anything at ridiculously high settings And still get crazy frames rates But you'd get a dedicated PhysX Who cares? Batman Arkham City Who cares? You have the same view on that as me, so I don't even... Well, I think that a live video card is better than a dead one I agree, and I wish I had my 260, I do, yeah It's fun, you gotta do some fun stuff Going for performance all the time is awesome And I'm doing that with my current computer And I want to always have one of those But it's fun to also have little fun project computers as well Okay, alright, well I think that you and I can agree to disagree about your bad idea But we can both agree it's terrible It's not the great... I'm just gonna cover you up with 20 questions now Okay, let's move on Okay, I think, yeah, okay, real conclusion, real conclusion I would never do... Okay, I told myself, I was, cause I have three PA120.3s upstairs I have a baller pump that I paid like $250 for And I was gonna build myself like an outdoor... You showed me Yeah, I showed you what I was gonna do So I was gonna build myself a 120 by 9 rad box thing With the pump housing in it and all the fan, like push-pull And it was gonna be awesome And then I was gonna run one set of tubing Into like two computers that are next to each other and cool the whole thing Because it'd have tons of heat capacity for it And what I realized is that once you move into a house Your time gets consumed with like cleaning the kitchen We also have a baby Well yeah, but I didn't have a baby for the first year and a half that I was here But it's just like there's so many stupid things Like furniture shopping is the worst thing ever Like guys, am I right? Like furniture shopping is the stupidest thing ever It's like horrible I just don't do it And when you take... Well yeah, but you'll need furniture at some point And like a girl will make you shop for furniture Yeah, yeah, okay And based on the feedback of our viewers last week Slick should have no trouble attracting plenty of the ladies At least if the ladies are our viewers So check this out We're gonna do highlights of comments from last week's livestream Always thought that Slick was a little... I'm gonna... Here, you know what? I'm gonna move this so you guys can all admire Slick while we do this You gotta sit up properly then Always thought that Slick was like a little weak teenager that followed Linus around Okay, something, something, something, something Where's the... Here, hold on, hold on Where's the... Okay, hot, hot Oh man, why am I not a hot nerd like Slick? Hi new guy, you're hot Slick, so freaking hot 42 thumbs up Hotel, no Slick is hot I can't decide who's hotter, Linus... Yeah, see, one person gives me props Thank you for that, viewer Slick is hot Slick's a hottie Okay, okay, now let's try keyword slick Okay, okay, okay, okay Slick made me gay Nice Okay, Slick is hot, Slick's hot, Slick's big Slick's big and manly and hot So I think that sooner than later you should be running into a situation where you're gonna have to go shopping with a girl Mind you, you almost met a girl at school, do you wanna tell that story? Okay, okay, okay, I dated the same girl for about four and a half years That relationship ended Went out with another girl for about four months that I was introduced to for a friend So to give you a time frame, didn't like actively go and try and find women for about five years Right, so you started going to men during that time My left arm, as you guys probably saw on the last livestream, was slinged up It still hurts like hell, but it's fine Then I was walking down the hallway and I was carrying something in my right hand So I gotta go through one of the doors And she opens the door for me And I walk through, say thank you, and then she walks like right beside me down the completely empty corridor hallway So I'm like, I should probably say something, but I just keep walking, so I'm like whatever And then as I go to walk away I'm like, okay bye, and just walk down the hallway Go buy tune and imobars, I'm doing a project for school and I had to take pictures in an imobars Seriously? That's what passes for post-secondary education now? It's pretty sad, we're in this full programming course and we have digital media It's just like making web pages and stuff Me and my partner decided to make web pages about an imobars and danishes, so we had excuses to buy them Anyways, so I'm coming back down the hallway and she's still there So when I come back I'm like, oh hey, do you want an imobar? And she's like, oh sure, blah blah blah And we stand there for a second, she eats an imobar And I'm like, okay bye, and just walk away And she was like looking at me expectingly, like I'm supposed to say something And I definitely should have said something And you were going to totally get like sympathy attention Oh it was like the perfect storm of good situations Armin is slink, but to be clear she was like super ugly and nerdy right? No No, yeah see No So Slick may be as hot as you guys think he is, but he's I've been out of the game for a while He's been out of the game for a while Yeah, my theory is that had nothing to do with it He's just not really into that sort of thing Which is fine, which is good, you know That's cool What do you think of the H80i? I think it's an H80 with an I on the end I think the new mounting should be good I think the performance should be pretty similar Ah, got a Z9PED8 mobile with LSI controller What kind of storage array should I get? Honestly, hard to answer that question because it really depends what you need Are you looking for mass storage in which case you want hard drives? Are you looking for ball and SSDs? In which case get SSDs? Sorry guys, we are announcing the winners of the NerdRage giveaway later tonight We will do the final judging later tonight and we will get that done for you We'll start watching them immediately after Yeah, we'll start watching them right away after Okay, I'm almost afraid to click this link because it can never be a good thing to click random links that people on the internet send you But, oh, oh, oh, oooh AHHHHHHHHH Okay, well we just got trolled pretty good right there Sorry for that, sorry for that guys, that was not a good thing Okay, Shane, you're banned How do I ban people? I don't know how to ban people Shane, full profile Full profile. He has three tweets. Yeah, he's banned. Blocked. Bam! Okay. Can you please announce the winners? I'm sorry. We will, we will. Livestream, I'm watching. Will these water cooling parts go good? Sorry, Freddy. No time to look at that right now. Wow, okay. Here, good question. Why are you trying to increase the professionalism of your show? Some viewers like it as is. Personal. So, um... Guess I'll field this one. So... There is a need for both things. I don't know if you guys all know this, but I maintain two channels. My personal one, Linus Tech Tips, as well as a second one, NCIXcom, for NCIX, the store that I work at. It's a different viewer base, and people have a different expectation for the kind of content they want, the kind of professionalism level. So, I am not going to stop making casual videos. In fact, if you've noticed, for every experiment or professional style video I upload, I also am continuing to upload every single day one of my normal style content videos. So, it's not like I'm dialing back the production on the videos that you guys like. I'm just increasing what I'm doing. Why am I renovating my garage? Why did I invest in new equipment? That will become clear later. I can tell you right now that Slick and I are going to be at CES this year. We're going to be doing some really cool coverage. That's going to involve the new equipment as well, and there's lots of cool projects coming up. But, um... Can't say more for now, so there you go. But don't worry. Don't worry. The good stuff you like is not going away. You should switch jobs for a day. Slick as presenter and Linus as cameraman. Uh-huh, not a bad idea. Linus Tech and Slick PC. Who wins in an arm wrestling match? Seriously? Okay, let's just do a quick bicep comparison here. Yeah, see? Here, here, here, here. That should be pretty much all you need to know. I think his forearm is probably about the same size. Here, just put it next to it. Yeah, his forearm is bigger than my bicep. So, that is not something that is that great. You know, what I found out actually not that long ago is Slick's kind of a bully. He was telling me about this roommate he had at the University of Victoria that he used to throw at the wall. Pick him up and throw him at the wall. Can you explain why you might do such a thing? Football players, right? I'm usually quite a nice guy. I've never had someone I would call a mortal enemy before. But when you get drunk and pick up my mineral oil computer and drop it and crack the whole non-replaceable case and are the reason why it dies later down the line, I'm kind of mad. I'm kind of mad. So what you're saying is you've got a temper. It can be triggered. So you threw him at the wall. Did he do anything else to deserve this? Yes, he did many things. I'm not entirely sure if we can go through this. I used to have my desktop in my buddy Harrison's dorm. He threw rocks through our window once, hitting both of our monitors, which is beyond not okay. There's what? Okay. I really don't think I should go through that. There's another really big reason. Why don't we just put it this way? It involved a tie on the door. Yes, and someone entering who should not have entered. Right. So you're saying that he deserved to be thrown at the wall. He definitely deserved to be thrown at the wall. He also attacked me first. I don't think I have my email with all of my planned topics here. So I'm going to have to open up my Gmail. So I'm going to get Slick to bring up one of his topics for the live stream tonight. Don't worry, we've got some good stuff. Dan the Man. Yes, Dan the Man. Hope he's still watching. Dan the Man, if you're on the Twitch chat, I want you to say something if you're there, because you are awesome. You are Dan the Man, and you are the man, because we honestly, Slick and I have been super busy today. We haven't had as much time to pay attention to our Twitter as we would like. Everyone's saying they're Dan the Man now. Oh, yeah, there's a couple. Go back to the tweets from before the live stream started. You should be able to find them. I can't. I won't be able to find them. But yeah, whoever, okay, Dan the Man, if you're actually here, you're awesome, because Dan was taking care of all the people asking when the live stream was starting, although we didn't end up starting at that time. No. Sorry, Dan. Sorry, Dan. We made you look dumb, unfortunately. He was also taking care of all of the people who were asking about how to join the live stream. So that was awesome. He replied to like a ton of tweets. So thank you, Dan. What else we got? Vimeo Tip Jar. Oh, Vimeo Tip Jar. Okay. Have you guys heard of this? Have you heard of this? No. Okay. All right. Like I just told him the topic, but I didn't actually give him the details. So Vimeo has introduced what's called a tip jar for content creators. And so instead of being an ad-driven thing, and instead of being like, oh, herpty-derpty-derp, like I know there was one tech video guy on YouTube that used to turn off comments on all of his videos and just say, if you want to comment on the video, go to my website. So he was trying to drive traffic away from YouTube, which is very difficult to do. Right. You know, if you want that, go to my website and view it, and then he gets like advertising revenue there. So that was one way to get money, and it's just not very effective. And people don't like it. Whereas if you make it voluntary, I don't think people have a problem saying, you know, hey, this is someone that I enjoy watching, and, you know, here's a dollar or here's $2. I mean, it's a good platform, especially for tip-based stuff. So like you don't know how to do something. You look it up. They answer your question. You can go, there's a bucket to you. Yeah. I mean, it's something that for what I'm doing online as Tech Tips, it probably doesn't make that much sense. I don't think people will tip me for unboxing, like, you know, my apple juice. But for something like where or even like comics or people who are producing web series, that could be just awesome. Like, what's his name? Freddie Wong. Yeah, someone like Freddie Wong. Freddie Wong's videos are epic. Yeah. And yeah, they deserve credit. I mean, Freddie Wong, I think, is doing okay for himself. Yeah, I'm sure he is. Aside from that. Yeah, but still. But yeah, I think it's a great idea. I mean, the problem is I don't see realistically anyone but YouTube actually ending up existing at the end of all this. Vimeo's been around for quite a while. I know Vimeo's. I mean, okay, okay. Vimeo's been around for, they're not even number two though. Number two is Dailymotion. Oh yeah. Yeah, Dailymotion I think is about a quarter the size of YouTube or something like that. And it's, I mean, for the North American viewers, you know, hey, feel free to tweet at us or actually here. We'll have a quick look at the, okay, the Twitch chat has disappeared and related. There it is. We'll have a quick look at the Twitch chat. And guys, what was I saying? You were saying that Dailymotion was number two. Yeah, have you ever watched a video on Dailymotion? I think it's more of a European thing. And here, we'll go back to the Twitch chat and let you guys see what you think. No, no. Lol. You porn. Come on, guys. No, Dailymotion is not a cheap ad site. It's actually, all of my videos get syndicated over to Dailymotion as well. But they don't get a lot of views over there just because no one, oh, he says, oh, okay. Apparently, Dailymotion is popular because it has softcore porn on it. Apparently, that guy random shot TV video shows and appropriate videos as well. Oh, okay. Well, I guess now we know why Dailymotion is one quarter the size of YouTube. Because if YouTube wanted to double their traffic tomorrow, we know what they could do. I think that more than double it. Okay, then. Why don't we just move right along? New topic. New topic. We're going to move away from that topic. I wanted to make a comment about the Android tablet versus Apple tablet last stream. Oh, come on. You're not going to bring that up again. Okay, we were talking about performance, and I got a whole bunch of tweets about people saying that they were now having a hard time deciding because they love their Android phone and they love their Android everything, and they're going to go buy a new Android tablet. Now they're unsure. Because we said Android tablets aren't that great. Because they don't perform very well. But if you're a huge Android fan and love everything to do with Android, don't just go buy an Apple tablet because it's fast. Okay, hold on. Okay, what you're about to say sounds an awful lot like, well, if you happen to be a huge Justin Bieber fan, you should probably download the Boyfriend single. Boyfriend single? Yeah, it's a terrible song. You know his songs? No, I listened to it because... What? Why do you listen to it? I thought you were there. Remember, didn't I play it during... I don't remember. We searched for it on YouTube. We were testing a tablet or something. Oh, this was a while ago. And it was like the front page or something. So I was just like, oh, Justin Bieber, Boyfriend. And I think you were there. Yeah, you were there. You were like, oh, that's a terrible song. I'm like, it couldn't be that bad. It's Justin Bieber. It should be okay. It's Canadian and all that. But no, it was bad. It was not good. It was like bad. It was like just bad. For the true Justin Bieber fans only. You know what my mom was telling me is the surest way to find out if it's Justin Bieber's birthday is to go into any middle school. And if all the girls are wearing purple, then it's Justin Bieber's birthday because apparently it's his favorite color and all the tween girls wear purple on his birthday. Why don't you finish your story? I don't even remember what I was talking about. You were talking about how you... Oh, oh, oh. Yeah. Just like if you love the Android experience, if you're into rooting, if you're into changing out ROMs, if you're into all that kind of stuff, maybe don't change. Just buy an Android tablet. Okay. I mean, you can get faster Android tablets. Galaxy Note 10.1 is using a newer, faster processor. Right. It's a little heavy, but then again, so is iPad 3. I think, and 4 for that matter, the slightly more faster one. Anyways, I can pull another topic. No, I got another one. So The Verge did a fantastic article on AMD. We're not going to spend long on this one, but I'm just going to show this to you guys. If you're not familiar with The Verge, great site. Theverge.com. Actually, you know what? It's probably easier to just do this. Verge AMD. What happened to AMD? This is a great look at what the heck happened to AMD over the last little while. I don't know if you guys have seen this, but AMD's stock is at pretty much an all-time low. I think there was one point in 2008 when the recession really, really hit that they were a little bit lower than this, but they're down to $1.86 per share. I don't know if you guys are going to be able to see this. It's going to focus or not. Go Hero camera. You can see the trend line on the bottom. That's kind of all you need to know. So they're down to $1.86 per share when they were riding high. I mean, it wasn't that long ago that every gamer had an Athlon 64 or an Athlon 64 X2 in their rig. I had one. I had... Actually, I technically had two. Here, let's see who had the most Athlon 64s. I had two. You had two? I had a 3000 plus, then I upgraded to a 3200 plus, then I got a 3500 plus. Claw hammer. Wow. Then I got a 4400 plus, then I got an Opteron 165, which was just a 4400 plus, but it overclocked a little bit. And I think from there I went to a Core 2 duo. So I had like five of them. Right. And that... Yeah. So I had the 754 rig. I had a 939 rig. I had several 9... How many boards did I have? I had an MSI 754 board, then I had an ASUS 754 board, then I had a 939. I had an ASUS one, then I had an A-Bit one. Alright. Oh, oh. Oh, I had an ASRock one. Do you remember that epic board that had AGP and PCI Express? Yeah. Yeah. I had my X800 XT Platinum Edition AGP card in there, and then I was ready for my 7800 GT upgrade when I was done with that. My favorite board for FL64 was my DFI LAN party. DFI LAN party. Okay. You know what? It's probably the most legendary board that I've never owned. Yeah. Yeah. Other than maybe like IC7 Max. That's another super legendary board. But anyway, sorry. So anyway, great article, you guys. Do check it out because it's a really good look at sort of what's happened over the last little while, what kind of missteps there have been. Seven months without any clear leadership in the company, which is really hard to do. Yeah. And still know what's going on. They've gone through a 30% reduction in staff under a month ago. So it's, you know, I think we all hope for the sake of keeping Intel in line. I think we've seen what's happened over the last three years or so, where we're getting like these small iterations on the CPU side. I mean, where's my 8-core processor? It's there. They just haven't unlocked it because they don't have to. So yeah, I think we're all rooting for them, but it's tough right now. So yeah, moving right along. Let's go back to... Wait, you had a topic, right? I've got a couple, but we can go back to Twitter or something. No, no, no. Let's do that for now. I've got all this. Oh, holy crap. Yeah. We have a lot of topics. Okay. Ah, yes. Okay. Explain this, the fourth one. And I think that we're all going to completely disagree with you because you're wrong. Actually, no, probably they'll agree with you. Okay, so hackers versus crackers. I brought this up with Linus today. Okay, first of all, we should start with your position. What would you consider yourself? Just so you guys know, Slic's actually a lot more technical than me, especially on the software side. I can barely make something bold with HTML tags. What? I can't remember. I can never remember if it's like brackets and then the slash or if it's these things and then the slash. Sometimes it's one and sometimes it's the other. W3Schools. You'll be done in like 10 minutes. What? W3Schools. Amazing website. If you're looking into really basic starter coding, go there. Even more advanced stuff. They're really good. Anyways, I would consider myself a hacker. Okay. Hackers are not bad. Yeah, you're a bad person. No. So you're basically one of those jackasses who's in Call of Duty and running around like... No. Wrong terminology is used almost all the time. Most of the Call of Duty guys are what's called the Script Kitty. They're just using programs written by other people and those other people are crackers. Crackers are people that attack things and try to... Correction. Crackers are white people. Go ahead. Crackers are people who try to attack things and try to... Why are you generalizing about my people? Sorry, I'm racist against white people. I can understand that because you're clearly not white yourself. Clearly. What was I even going to say? Yeah, crackers are people that will attack something maliciously. Hackers are people that will take something and try to change it in certain ways to make it better. Okay, but do they ever do this to their own advantage? Well, that's kind of the point all the time. Okay, but is it ever to the detriment of whoever they're... If it's to the detriment of someone else, you're cracking. You're cracking. Because it should never really influence anyone else. Okay, what if it was a really small influence? Like, what if, say, for example, you were gaining access to someone's Wi-Fi? Or something. You cracked into their Wi-Fi. You cracked into their Wi-Fi. Okay. What if you gained access to... You cracked the password to get into their Wi-Fi. Okay. So... What if you gained access to a folder somehow and you never actually looked at any of the files in it? Are you a hacker or a cracker? That's gaining access to something that you're not allowed access to. Okay. That's cracking. That's cracking. So what do hackers even do then? Besides sit on their thumbs and theorize. Well, like, Arduino controllers. Have you ever heard of an Arduino controller? It's this little electronic board that you can... You hack with it and make little things for yourself. So have you made any of those? Not personally, but I'd like to. Okay. You can make little random things. You can connect it to your washing machine. So that it'll email you when your wash is done. Like random little stuff like that. That's hacking then. That's not just coding. Yeah. But then it's coding. Like, there's so many different... It's so confusing because there's a lot of different terminology. There's also black hat, gray hat, and white hat hackers. And then white hat hackers are good hackers. Gray hat hackers are kind of in between. And then black hat hackers are bad. And then the blue hat hackers are... That's the Intel team. Taking the ability of the monsters and turning it around and using it on them. Oh no, I'm thinking mages. Yeah, yeah. Okay, sorry about that. It's really confusing, but yeah. That's basically just what we were talking about today. Okay. So basically hackers are mages. Yeah. Okay. And computers are magic. And then if the blue smoke comes out, then the magic is gone. It has been released and it can't work anymore. So the power that comes from the wall and your power supply is mana? Your power supply is your mana pool? Yeah, there you go. So from now on, we no longer do unboxings of power supplies. This is officially a 1,250 watt mana source. Yeah. Okay. So to be clear, if I just hook this up to you, would that do anything? Or does it have to have the blue smoke? I'm like a summoner from League of Legends. I utilize someone who would utilize this. And the thing that I utilize that utilizes this is the computer. Right. But the computer has to contain the magic blue smoke. Yeah. Got it. Do you contain magic blue smoke? Unfortunately, no. Are you sure? Because I conveniently have a knife on me. What else is there? Do you think he'd hit me if I just like jabbed him? You know what? Let's... He'd probably throw me at the wall because he's a big bully. Okay, let's do some Twitter questions here. You can find other topics while we're looking at some Twitter questions. I already got other topics. Okay, someone loves Arduino. There you go. He found Dushan Chanuka. Thank you for agreeing with Slick. W3School. W3School is the best. Yeah. All right, Curtis, what are your three favorite games? Go. My three favorite games? Yeah. Yeah, your three favorite games. Morrowind, Bastion, Bastion, and... Assassin's Creed? Yeah, but I'm trying to pick an individual Assassin's Creed. If I can answer series, I know it's all RPGs. But the thing is with shooters, with shooters, it moves so quickly. There's new shooters all the time. Okay, but there's no shooter you could single out as being like your favorite shooter. If I had to pick a shooter, I would probably say either CS 1.6 or Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare. One of those two. Really? COD 4 Modern Warfare, three favorite games? No, no, no, you asked shooters. This is all newer stuff, though. Yeah, shooters specifically. You don't have any more classic games that are your favorite games? Yeah. Okay, here, why don't I start with my three favorite games? We didn't have much money, though. I didn't get very many games until I was quite a bit older. Okay, to be clear, I owned for my Super Nintendo. Again, we didn't have a ton of money growing up. I owned Super Mario World, Final Fantasy III or VI, and Pilotwings. I actually only owned three games for my Super Nintendo the entire time I owned the console. But they were probably the best games for that console. The problem is I played so many games that I cherish so much that it would be easier to ask, like, what is your favorite game of this genre, or what is your favorite game for this console, or what is your favorite game for all this other stuff? Because, like, Lost Vikings, did you ever play Lost Vikings? I actually didn't. Lost Vikings was amazing. I loved that game. Lost Vikings was so good. We owned Super Mario World and Lost Vikings. Okay. And that was like... Okay. Super Mario World was kind of... you know, we should get together and we should just plow through Super Mario World sometime. We could probably stream it. That would actually be kind of amazing. Okay, we'd love your guys' input. You want to see me and Slick finish to 96. That's the max, right? I think it's 96. I think so. I think it's 96. Finish to 96, Super Mario World and one long gaming session. Let us know. We can stream it. We have the AverMedia card. The AverMedia card can stream SNES, I think. There's a dongle, or if not, the Black Magic can. Cool. Yeah, there's a dongle kit that comes with it. Either way, we could get a TV without and just push. Oh, can we do that? I'm pretty sure. I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure. I want to use a CRT if we can. That would be way more legit. Way more legit. I've got one at home. I know you have one. Well, like, I was... Okay, guys, huge problem with modern LCDs. This drives me crazy. There is so much input lag. I mean... I was looking into IPS monitors last night and found one that I was really interested in. 18 milliseconds. I'm just like, oh, no. But the specs are meaningless, because I guarantee you that if it says 18 milliseconds, it's like 50 milliseconds. Or 80 milliseconds. Because the specs don't mean anything. And honestly, monitors are fast enough for me now. I can get by with a monitor. Like my wife's old 24-05 FPW. That one is a little bit slow for me. And the pixel response times are a little bit slow. But even my 305T, which is not a fast monitor, I can live with. Something like a 24-20T, the BenQ one. Have you ever noticed any problem with it? Not really. But then the thing is, you go back to old consoles and it almost doesn't even matter. It has to be the shortest input lag possible. I think we could probably play on a 120Hz monitor. But on TVs, it's terrible. Like it's unplayable. I was playing Mario on the TV that's over there, Super Mario World. And I was like, jump, adjust in midair. And then it's like, do-do-do, second later, adjust in mid-air. Like it's so... modern games have gotten crappier. And you know what? You can't even blame it just on consoles. Because Super Nintendo is a console. Yeah, no, it's the TVs. It's not even just TVs. Couple things. Input lag on TVs. Hold on, let me see if I have one here. Yeah, I don't have one. Wireless controllers. Back when we had CRT TVs for instant... I feel really old right now. Back in my day, we had CRT, we had the Scanline, the Motion Blur, the uphill ball... Pilotwings. Pilotwings? Pilotwings was a great game. I'm not talking it down. Don't be down on Pilotwings. Because screw you. That's what I say. Screw you. Pilotwings is amazing. I love how we're crazy high-end hardware enthusiasts and our first gaming livestream is going to be Super Mario. That's because Super Mario World is one of the most hardcore games ever. I still do speedruns for it. I would argue Super Mario Bros. 3 is actually a harder game though. But yeah. But I don't think it was as good. I didn't enjoy it as much. It wasn't as varied, it just didn't feel as... I mean, it probably doesn't help that we're a little bit younger. So you probably played Super Mario World first. I did. Yeah, me too. So if that were the case, then... There's nothing better than that very first level of Super Mario World, getting the 1-up by hitting the shell on all the things. Like, there's that one upper layer of Koopas and you throw the shell at them and you get the 1-up. Did you know there's a 3-up moon in the other first level? Really? Yeah. Because you have to go back with the cape and you have to fly to get it. I had no idea. Anyway, sorry. You know what? We digress. So moving right along. I barely even answered that. I might as well do my 3 favourite games since we're at it. So it'd have to be Final Fantasy VI. Yeah, that's how that comes. Which... It's just... Oh. TIE Fighter. TIE Fighter is right up there. That may be my second all-time favourite game. Did you ever... Have you ever played it? See guys, okay, I know I talk about this a lot, but Star Citizen, go look at it. Go contribute. We should stream that the day it comes out. It's not going to be for a really long time. Well, it'll be in Alpha. I think there's like NDAs and stuff. But like 2014, the game will be out. We will stream that because I am planning at this time to drop the $250 on the RSI Constellation ship, which is a multi-man ship. So you have a co-pilot and a gunner in this ship and you can like cargo freight stuff and attack stuff. And oh, I'm like so stoked. And then third favourite game. You know what? I actually don't know. I guess it probably wouldn't hurt to play. Okay, no, hold on. Like maybe something more modern that I really enjoy. Probably Left 4 Dead. I'm surprised you haven't mentioned Halo for PC. Halo for PC? You know, I never played it that much. Left 4 Dead I played a lot. Like I played it five, six nights a week, two, three hours a night for like a long time. I had like my crew and we were playing a lot of Left 4 Dead. So yeah, it was good. It was good. Good stuff. Okay. How about the top of the Hostess company going out of business? You know what? That's not really up our alley, but I'd love to talk about Danger Den going out of business. So Slick actually hadn't heard about this until I mentioned it very briefly. I don't know if you guys know what Danger Den is, but they did water cooling, water blocks. They've been around since pretty much day one of PC water cooling. Going back to the Whitewater, I believe was their first blouse. Oh crap. I hope I'm not making myself look stupid here. I think it was the Whitewater. Little River. No, that was a cathart thing. And Baby's crying. And he's crying. Awkward. So yeah, Danger Den. They're out of business. They blew everything out at like 30% of retail. Oh, are they still doing that? No. No, the entire thing, their entire inventory was gone within a matter of hours. And they're moved on to other things. So yeah, that's very sad. Water cooling is so niche though. Yeah, but to lose someone like Danger Den just sucks. It's been a long time since they've been a frontrunner on anything though. It still just sucks. I know. Yeah, it was four brothers actually that ran the business. So it was like a family business and all that good stuff. So yeah, bummer about that. And they were the only one left that was still actually trying to manufacture anything in North America. Which might be part of the problem. I mean, Swift Tech does all their production overseas now. All their blocks, everything is produced overseas. EK is obviously based out of Slovenia, cheap Eastern European everything. Except currency. But I think they do okay. Yeah, so anyway, moving right along. Do you like the switches on the Black Widow Ultimate? They're blues, but honestly the build of the keyboard is not my favorite. The travel seems short. Like it just, it doesn't feel quite right to me. I have one quick shout out to somebody. This guy tweets at me all the time. How's it going? First though, they're not true blues. They are? No. I didn't know that. Razer's done something with them. I remember reading, I don't own one and I've never used one in excess. I've used one a little bit and like you said, it feels a little bit different. Travel feels a little bit different. Yeah. I read a huge post on OCN, probably OCN again. Huge thread on it on OCN and if you check out the mechanical keyboard guide on OCN, which is awesome. Scroll all the way down and look at different keyboards in the guide. Black Widow Ultimate is one of them and they reference the build quality of it. They have their own like, look at him. He's drunk. Like the build quality is just not quite there in my opinion, but it's still a nice keyboard. But the keys, they're slightly different. They're not really the standard blues you look for. Can we just move on? Oh Robert, you rascal. Is there any particular reason that Slick PC has been unveiled? No. No, not really. What's a good power line adapter? TrendNet has a good one. They're 400 megabit or whatever, they're 405-y something. They're all good. Okay, just install to something something. This is an interesting question. I don't hate anything about ASRock. I mean asking someone a question like, why don't you like the products of company X if you have owned one, is sort of pretty self-explanatory. So why don't we just leave it at that. Also companies, even if you claim they're not necessarily like that company, they can still come up with a couple things that are really good. Yeah, absolutely. You can't judge a company on a couple different items. Most people have at least something that's keeping them alive. Alan, good question. I wouldn't recommend the Half-XB for a home server because of the lack of 3.5-inch drive cages. It's only got two. Not really something that I'd consider to be that interesting. You know what? This is actually kind of a funny conversation topic. You just jumped over at the last guy that asked. I know, but I changed... No, because he specifically mentioned Twinkies. I have never eaten a Twinkie. I have also never eaten a Twinkie. Maybe this is why they're going out of business. It's funny because I really like the old 80s comic Bloom County. I don't know if you ever... Okay, forget it. I've read a lot of comics. Not comic books. I'm a comic guy, which is different. So like newspaper comics? Yeah, like Foxtrot, Peanuts, For Better or For Worse, those kinds of comics. They talk a lot about Twinkies because there's a cockroach character. You know the whole thing. The only thing that survives in nuclear holocaust is Twinkies and cockroaches. And ironically, Twinkies have not survived any kind of nuclear holocaust. So yeah, it's just one of those weird factoids. It's like my mom has never eaten a Big Mac. It's just like, how do you go through life without having eaten a Big Mac? You know what kind of kills me? Is Wagon Wheels hostess? A lot of stuff is hostess. Let's find out who made Wagon Wheels. Wagon Wheel Manufact... We're going to end up with all kinds of stupid crap in this search. Hanson Wheel and Wagon Shop. Wagon Wheel Manufacturers on Alibaba. Like treats. Yeah, Wagon Wheel Treat Manufacturer, Wikipedia. Wagon Wheels are a... Oh, interesting. These aren't available in a lot of different places. Yeah, there's a Wagon Wheel. So we're created by something Western, something something, production and size, blah blah blah. The Australian equivalent. Burton's Foods. Okay, apparently not related. But did you ever have a Wagon Wheel when you were a kid? Yeah. Weren't they just a hundred times more delicious than they are now? They taste like crap now. Yeah, they do. They just taste like cardboard. I don't think it's even real marshmallow anymore. Which is horrible because marshmallows are the cheapest thing on the face of the earth. How do you cheap out on marshmallows? I don't find a way. I think that comes into like everything seems to be ever so slightly lower build quality. Halloween candy. Lower price but lower build quality. Halloween candy this year was smaller than I've ever seen it. Kit Kats, like the Halloween Kit Kats used to be about this big and they were four sticks. This year they were like this big, like this long and they're like two sticks. I don't actually ever remember them being four sticks. Two small sticks. Oh, when I was a little kid they were four sticks. It's like, okay, alright, yeah I guess. They're so small. The arrows are tiny. Arrows were like multi-segment. Now they're just two segments and they're like this big. And the coffee crisps. The coffee crisps used to be short but they used to be the right dimension for a coffee or like close. Now they're like these tiny little things. We're having a really hard time staying on Topics, mate. I blame you. I stayed on Topic before you joined the livestreams. Ah, yes, good question. Okay, I'll let Slickfield this one. Yeah, they're going to be awesome. I was excited for the new, I was excited for Surface and then it came out and I was excited for like 12 to 24 hours. And then I was like, I want Pro. No longer super excited, just want Pro. Surface is amazing and awesome. RT, Surface RT. Surface RT, sorry, is amazing and awesome. But you can just feel that there's something like waiting to actually show up. Like it could be awesome. It could just be even more awesome. Yeah, I'm pretty stoked. I mean we played around with that Samsung Windows 8 tablet. Yeah, it's pretty cool. It's pretty thick and pretty heavy. But it was pretty powerful. And it's awesome being able to have full desktop apps. Yeah, I mean think about it. You could run anything on it. Yeah. I guess that's sort of the point. Yeah. Good job. Thank you. Yeah, moving on. I'm going to hide now. Let's keep going here. Let's see if there's anything that interests me. Just got Fiber Optic. Wow, you suck. Actually, Kevin, Kevin, I envy you. You don't suck. I just envy you. It's an honor to have my name on the show. I don't think that's the right person. But it said Dan. His actual Twitter name was DanTheMan. Was dreaming of slick PC, so played him a song called Boyfriend. Hmm. Okay. Building of something, something, Nexus 10, and iPad 3. You know what? I don't have a Nexus 10, unfortunately. Did you hear about the queen using a Galaxy 10.1? No, I did not. Have any plans for doing a custom case build? No. Other than just cutting holes in my own, that's all I'm really planning. And then slick's already done his oil machine, which is about as custom as it gets. Okay, here is a helpful tip for everyone. Thanks for that, Inkbot2000. All right, let's go back up. What do you say we grab another topic off the old phone? I think the main ones left are gaming topics. Gaming topics? Well, gaming topics are fine, because technically we're on Twitch TV, as people are so eager to point out to me, why are you doing a talk show on Twitch TV if you're not streaming games? Other than my two gaming topics, we've got the inconvenience of Garage Studio. Oh, I heard Black Ops 2 isn't good. Who? Just in general. The new one. I heard that there were Mass Effect 2 discs in the box. Yes, yes. That's actually hilarious. I heard they got the wrong game. That wasn't actually just Mass Effect. I think that was at least one other game that had that problem, within the same time frame. I don't remember who it was, but I saw it online and there was a ton of them. Just the wrong disc. No, I heard it was something like a million copies or something like that. Oh yeah, like huge. And BioWare, in response, gave out, I don't remember how many people it was. They should have just been like, we're sorry you bought Black Ops 2. Here's a more enjoyable game instead. Yeah, they let them keep it. And then they got another Black Ops, so they got free Mass Effect 2. Also, an X amount of people, I don't remember who it was, that sent them, I think it was an email of a picture of them holding their disc 2 from Black Ops, and the error screen showing that it was Mass Effect, got the entire suite of Mass Effect games and all DLC. Wow. Yeah, Mass Effect 1, 2, and 3 and all DLC. I guess it's good publicity for BioWare and Mass Effect, because everyone's talking about it. Yep, yep, yep. In other news, I heard Halo 4 is awesome. Yeah, actually, I was a huge fan of Halo 1. I was a massive fan of Halo 2, I played it forever. And then Halo 3 came out and just, all the disappointment, all of it. I was so not happy with that game. And then Reach came out and I was like, I'll try it at a friend's house, because I was so disappointed with 3. All the disappointment, was not excited for it. Then Halo 4, again, tried it as a friend's, it was pretty fun. It was cool. I had someone trying to tell me that the pre-game cinematics are rendered in real time. Did you see them? No. They're crazy. They're like crazy. Like GTX 680 might be able to handle it. Wow. Yeah. And I was like, yeah, no, no, it isn't. No. Like, yeah, that's good for you, but no, no, just no. Yeah, no, it's fun. It's really fun. Okay, what was our other topic? Do you have it? I thought we were going to do an unboxing. Do I have Halo 4? I thought we were going to do an unboxing. No, we were going to do an unboxing of Halo 4. I unboxed it on my livestream before you joined me. Okay. And then I looked at the disc and I gave it to my coworker. I don't think he ever found out. This is awesome. Okay, so other than that, I've got YouTube Money slash effort. No, we shouldn't cover that. Okay, so Tomb Raider Revamp. Have you heard about that at all? Really? No, it actually looks really good. Tomb Raider, okay, Tomb Raiders, no. Yeah, Lara Croft looks really good. That doesn't make a Tomb Raider game good. Exactly, but they're trying to get away from that. Their whole thing with the new Tomb Raider is trying to get away from that. She's still obviously attractive because she's a female main character, but they're taking a lot from Drake's Fortune, and they're supposed to be taking a lot from Assassin's Creed. And they're completely rebooting the whole series. Didn't they just reboot the whole series not that long ago and remake the first game or whatever? It's not a remake of the first game, though. It's a full reboot. They're not just like remaking stuff. They're actually changing the whole storyline. She's still obviously a Tomb Raider, but she starts off as... I don't remember exactly what it is, but it's fairly innocent. And then it's much more storyline-based instead of just like, oh, I have big boobs. Did you hear about how she had big boobs and how that actually happened? No. The main artist was working on the model for Lara Croft. Investor Meaning comes in, and they come to go look at the model for Lara Croft, and he mixed up the shape for her boobs with a traffic cone. And when they saw it, he's like, oh, no, no, this is like the general idea of her, but her boobs are just kind of messed up. I screwed that up with a traffic cone. I'll fix it right now. He fixed it, and they said, no, put it back. They moved it back to a traffic cone, released the game, and it did really well. You know what was the most cruel internet rumor ever? That there was a nude raider hack for Tomb Raider. Because I swear, like me and a friend when we were like grade 7 or something spent like unimaginable amounts of time trying to find it because people claimed it was real, but that was, it was all the roos. It was not real. I mean, you know, 12 year olds. But no, seriously, I watched the video for Tomb Raider, and it actually looks really good now. And I've never been interested in that series. Would you buy it at launch? I don't buy many things at launch. Okay, you bought Halo 2 at launch because you were excited about it. You bought Halo 3 at launch probably, right? Yeah. Okay. Do you have any faith in the Tomb Raider franchise? I actually do have some faith in the Tomb Raider franchise. See, you know, the last time I bought a game at launch, actually I bought two games around the same time. I bought Bioshock 2 as a preorder. I preordered, oh, I didn't even take that in fully. I'm sorry. That's depressing. No, the good news was I had never played Bioshock, and I didn't have it. And Bioshock 2 preorder came with Bioshock. Okay, so I played Bioshock all the way through. Mind you, it was like a $15 title by that time. But I did get some value for it. They're calling Infinite the true sequel to Bioshock 1. Okay. I don't think Bioshock 1 needed a sequel. No, I know, but it's not supposed to be, as far as I've seen, it's a completely different storyline. It's just similar gameplay and similar idea. Okay, well, okay, the other... It also looks pretty okay. The other game that I preordered at the same time was Left 4 Dead 2. No. Left 4 Dead, you know, I put so many hundreds of hours into Left 4 Dead 1. Left 4 Dead 2 should have been a DLC for $10, $15 maybe. It's just, what was it, four new maps and different characters that honestly I hated. Like, I didn't like any of them. But they didn't try and hide that, though. They called it 2. Right. That's bad enough. But if you do any minor amount of research on the game. Okay, yes, but it was not clear before release the extent to which it was just a copy-pasted Left 4 Dead 1. Like what, I think it was like, with the spinner, two new monsters or something, and I was not... We got melee weapons. If you care, I don't know. I don't think it mattered. Like, I don't think it affected gameplay that much. I didn't really play Left 4 Dead 2, so I don't really have a lot of input. I played Left 4 Dead 1, though. Left 4 Dead 1 was phenomenally well balanced. I mean, that's everything. It's like Team Fortress 2. I mean, what's great about it? It's not innovative. Team Fortress has existed for years before Team Fortress 2. Hats didn't change a whole lot. The graphics are way better. The gameplay did change a bit. Graphics being better is an innovation. But the graphics completely changed, and they scrapped the whole... They were almost done Team Fortress 2, and then scrapped the entire project because they didn't like the style, and remade it. Because it was too serious. Either way, the balance is everything. And I didn't... Yeah, I just didn't like Left 4 Dead 2. All right, let's have a look at some new interactions here. Oh, we're not getting into that, Jacob. Um... Joe wants to know, how tall are you? Uh, I slouch a lot, but I'm 6'3". Are you really 6'3"? So he's like nine inches taller than me. But that's okay, because I got it where it counts. Yeah, laugh all you want. One of these days, we'll compare in the livestream. For $12. Yeah, for $12. Wait, what's this about $12? Oh, Bioshock 2 was awesome for $12. Bioshock 2 was unplayable. It was totally unplayable. I made it through about 15 minutes. And I was just like, this is terrible. I'm playing through Bioshock 1 right now. I have no interest in playing Bioshock 2 from what I've heard. I don't have time to play through Bioshock 1. Well, you haven't edited any episodes in the last weeks. I've been playing through Bioshock 1 for the last six months. Okay. Yeah, fair enough. Nuderaider was real, he claims. No, you know what, Adam, I'm not falling for it this time. Maybe you just failed. Maybe it is real. Maybe you can just... Okay, even if it was real, would it matter? I mean, the pixels were like this big. You cared at the time. Yes, I cared. I was 12. I was 12. And having a video card at that time that could output 16-bit color was a big deal. 660 Ti or 7950 with the new drivers. You know what? We're hoping to check this out not that long from now. Because honestly, right now, we don't know. Because they both got new drivers that increased performance dramatically. Jake, good question. Why is everyone so excited about Windows 8 tablets when there were Windows 7 tablets out years ago? Because Windows 7 is terrible for touch. And they were huge. Yeah, they were huge. And terrible. I mean, it comes down to the devices. Why is Windows 8 touch so good? Because you have devices like Surface that are freaking awesome. And have accurate touchscreens and multi-touch and fast interfaces. Windows 7 is unusable. There wasn't a huge budget in making tablets. There wasn't hordes of people going out and buying tablets. So why would a company pour enough money to make something awesome? That's right. And the problem is a Windows 7 tablet, you couldn't even take... Okay, Windows 8 tablet you take for granted. It's capacitive multi-touch. Windows 7 tablets, I mean, you might have multi-touch. Or you might have single point touch. And it might not be accurate at all. It was more like a niche thing for contractors who must have a tablet. So, um... Lou asks, why do I not livestream to YouTube? I am a YouTube partner. I am a YouTube partner. I don't livestream to YouTube because it's terrible. And the quality is terrible. So I might as well stream here and then upload it to YouTube after. I haven't painted my case again yet, but it's going to cost me a couple hundred bucks. Opinion on HIS IceCue AMD cards. Well, they're made by HIS and they have ICECue coolers on them, which are quiet. And they're AMD cards. I mean, there's not a whole lot to say these days. The board partners aren't able to differentiate in that many ways. Hi Fabian Yao, thank you. I'm glad to hear I have fans in Asia too. Why didn't you and Slick play Black Ops? Don't you use trackers like all the people I can give you a file list invite? I don't understand. Do you understand? Oh, is he asking why we don't torrent it or something? I think so. Oh, well, because we buy games? I have Black Ops 2. Do you have Black Ops 2? Why do you have Black Ops 2? Harrison bought it for me from a birthday. Oh, right. And you were like, thanks. My hand doesn't work. Oh yeah, that too. Yeah, it's a fapping injury. No. Watch the last livestream if you want to know what happened there. Yeah, you can watch him injure it. Yeah, see? Oil-cooled computers are a bad idea. What did you wash five times? How did you wash your motherboard when you took apart the oil-cooled machine? I didn't bother to strip credit. I didn't need it right away, so I was like, boop. And how long does it take? I left it for a while. Oh, okay. Like a week? Somewhere around there. Okay. It was ready pretty good. I could have used it right away, it would have just dripped more. Because oil doesn't come off stuff very quickly. Will a 200 watt power supply be enough for a custom NAS box, i.e. small form factor, with four or six hard drives? I'll let you field that one, I'm going to run to the washer. Yes? Okay, you might have to find more questions to answer then. I won't say. You can do another discussion topic. Another discussion topic? Oh, okay. Give me one moment, guys. I think I've got one more on here. Okay, massive League of Legends changes. He probably wouldn't care about this anyway, so I'll jump into it right now. I don't know how many viewers are into League of Legends, but considering it's a massive freaking game, I'm sure tons of you are, if you guys haven't checked this out yet, go to surrenderat20.net, I believe it is, or just Google surrenderat20. You'll find it. There's a whole host for tons of new items, tons of item changes, like revamped items, new items, new item tiers, boots are getting huge changes. They're taking 25 speed across the board off all of the boots and adding it to champions. There's now tier 3 boots, but what the tier 3 boots are is they're actually enchantments that you put on your boots. So it's not like you buy another tier that only is a linear tier. There's I think five different types of enchantments that you can place however you want on any of the boots. I'm trying to remember some of them. Alacrity increases your movement speed. There's another one, I don't remember the names of all these, but one of them increases your movement speed while in combat. One of them increases your teammates' movement speed while they're moving towards you. I think that one's called Captain. There's a bunch of other ones. There's some minor map changes. Huge, huge patch coming fairly soon. I think it's on the test room right now. Sounds fascinating. If Steam makes their own OS, would it be as popular as Linux? I think it would be much less popular than Linux. Unless there's a dedicated device that they're going to sell on the cheap that runs it or something. Yeah, but if Steam makes their own OS, it's probably going to be Linux. Well, that and Steam wouldn't make an OS. Valve would make an OS. Well, yeah. But if they...whatever. Just saying. Well, I was just going off of what he said. Anyways, if they did, it would probably be Linux anyways. It would just probably be their own adaptation of Linux. Brendan says, Hi Linus, I wish I was on your Twitter list on your livestream. Okay, Brendan. Yes, but you have to replace it once in a while? No, I actually don't know. I think it's probably close. It should be a little bit better than Linfield. Coffee Crisp are awesome. And Wonderbars and Old Dutch Ketchup chips are awesome too. Whoa! Star Citizen reached 4 million today? Yeah, I don't think it displays on their Kickstarter page because Kickstarter doesn't show all of their forms of funding. No, but I didn't look at that. I looked at Robert's Space Industries. Don't you get the emails? I guess you get a billion emails. Oh, right, you haven't actually bought it yet. No, I haven't bought it yet. If you buy it, you get constant updates. Overfill 4 million! Holy crap! So this is that game I'm talking about, the Star Citizen game. So over 4 million means that... Should I just do it now? Should I do it now? My wife will kill me. Should I just get it? I'm not saying anything. I don't want her to hate me. She's not watching this livestream right now, so she'd never know. Except when she sees the third birthday. New ship, new ship, new ship. Whoa, there's a new ship? Is it bigger? Oh no, I think... Is it the Constellation? Drake Cutlass? I don't know, there's no picture. Oh, it's probably just a new ship in the game. Sorry. Okay, anyway. Sorry, sorry, sorry. We'll stop talking about Star Citizen now. Should I just do it now? Are you sure? She's gonna kill me, man. Okay, learn more. Okay, I'll do this after the stream, but yeah, I'm gonna do it. We're gonna have a Constellation. Okay, we gotta make a video. We should make a video? We should make a video. We should make a video? Okay, we're gonna ball out a Constellation. And yeah, Slick's gonna be my co-pilot. He's my Chewbacca. Let's hear your best Chewbacca noise. I can't do Chewbacca. I know it seems like I can't. I can't actually roll like that. See, I can't do it. That was more like a bad Chewbacca. I know, I know, I can't do it. I can't do Chewbacca. That was terrible. It's depressing. That was actually really bad. I know, I can't do Chewbacca. That's the worst thing I've ever heard. You're fired. Uh, Freddy, no! Listening to... Nope, no I haven't, sorry. What's your editing process like? Who makes the big decisions? Um, yeah, it's called Linus Tech Tips. Like, just saying. He sucks at editing, so do I. Yeah, oh, Diesel makes the call. I was like, what are you trying to say? We're both terrible. Um, what's the cheapest Thunderbolt motherboard? I think Gigabyte has an MATX one. I haven't seen the pricing on it. Really? It's not available in North America. Oh, well, okay. Yeah, Merica. North America. You heard anything about the G75VX with the 670MX? Like when it'll be released? I'm stressing. No, I'm sorry, I haven't. Ah, yes, Averky bags. Here, slick. Take it away. How much stuff can you fit in an Averky bag? I don't like everything. It's kind of ridiculous. The camera's over there. It's kind of ridiculous. Let's just, like, random... Here, you gotta bring it up on your lap. Okay. Okay, seriously, you have your helmet in there? I have my helmet in there. Bike helmet, power cable. Sure. Power bar. Power bar. Ethernet cable. You never know when you'll need a power bar. My sling. Sling for the arm. Yeah, okay. A book for my mom. Uh, the weather shield that goes on it. I wear this when I'm on my bike. Because my bike doesn't have weather guard over the tires. This is all just a ploy. Your arm isn't injured at all. You're just trying to get chicks. I should walk around like this. You already have a... Anyways, multiple screwdrivers. I was talking about baby chickens. Okay. What were you talking about? I don't know. Batteries for a wireless mouse. Seriously? G7 mice in his backpack. True nerd or what? Geek rather. Geek. Another screwdriver thing. OCC screwdriver no less. Notepad from Be Quiet. Seriously? Yep. Where'd you get all this swag? Nvidia wrist strap. Where did you get this? I don't know. I don't even remember. Let's see. Let's see. Ah, thermal paste. Thermal paste. Nice. Very nice. I could go for a really, really long time. Is your laptop in there? My laptop's in there? Oh yeah, of course. Laptop's gotta be in there. Okay, laptop. There we go. How are there cool stuff we got here? Tons of different papers. Oh, is this the new Joan Rowling book? Yep. Oh, I haven't... I didn't even know it was out yet. Oh, oh, yes. Yes. No way. You're such a dar... You know, when he showed up for his job interview, he had a Super Nintendo with him. And he ended up carrying it under his arm. What do you got there? Oh, they won't be able to see it. What is that? Pokemon Blue. It's my original one from when I was a little kid. That's why you probably can't read it. My new Commuter Case for my S3. The box for it. Pills, because my arm... If that doesn't work, I will kill you. Just putting that out there. It has the most epic save file on it. I would be so depressed. I'm not actually that worried about that. That's still my original one, too, anyways. Ribbon, Ethernet cable. Ew, my mouth is probably... Oh, these are the best. Yep. Is this the one I gave you? Yep. Notebook. So, Everky bags. Yay or nay? Can we give it the ol' yay? I could probably keep going for like 10 minutes, and it's not even half full. NCIX lanyard. That's interesting. More glasses. That got awkward. Tons of things. A little fast. Okay. Note to self, don't look in another dude's bag. Yeah, there's tons of stuff. Can you solve a Rubik's Cube? Me? Yeah. I have before. I can't. I'm not very fast, because I don't know, like, it's all mathematics. I don't understand it, though. You can, there's like a formula for solving the whole thing. Do you even lift? Yes, I even lift. Not that often, not as much as I should. I'm sort of a Shaw guy myself. I'm Shaw too. It depends where you are, I think. I think this is ridiculous. Because the OS is so big on a Windows tablet, that there's not that much storage space left over. So? So you should just return it. Yeah. Not sue. Yeah. Merica. You're an American citizen, right? I'm an American citizen. So we can, like, we can, well, you can say that. Yeah, you can. Okay. Is that like the, yeah, I guess. That's the rules, yeah. Like, I can make fun of Canadians all I want. Canadians don't know anything about anything other than, like, hockey and beer and, like, lumberjacking. Lumberjacking. That's what it should be called. Logging should be called lumberjacking. That would be epic. Lumberjacking could, you know what? Okay, get this. New video game concept. You're like this lumberjack, and you like, it's like Grand Theft Auto, except you're like, you take over, like, barges and stuff. And you just, like, it's a sandbox game, where, like, you're like part of the underworld of, like, lumberjacking. And you, like, steal cars and you steal other people's trees and stuff. You smuggle shipments of hemp. It could be an MMO. Whole economy. I mean, if the economy at BC could be based on the lumber industry, then it's certainly a game. Raid the Hydro Dam. Yeah. That'd be awesome. Okay, would you guys buy lumberjacking the game? Please, do tweet, or let us know in the Twitch chat. Kickstarter. Yeah, Kickstarter. If Slick and I made lumberjacking the game. I need to change it. Hi, Marius. Slick, what do you think about Linux? He likes it. I won't let him answer. Okay. Fred wants to know how old we are. I've said this multiple times. I'm 11-teen. 11-teen? So that's 21? I'm not 21. I know. Okay. I don't understand. Okay, well I'm 26 at any rate, and he's younger than me, but not by much. So there you go. Yeah, see? Jordan's with us. Wagon wheels used to be good, and they do... Oh man, that thing tasted funky. It's... Seriously, like that game cartridge left a really bad taste in my nose. I've had that since I was like, what, 12? Okay. Yeah, wagon wheels suck now. Slick, how's your hand? Um... It looks like this. That's not very good. Whatever. It still hurts like hell. My knuckles are all messed up still, but... Best way to learn to overclock? Trial and error? Overclock. Go to OCN, read some posts. Yeah. Um... What is there? Okay, why don't we... do we have any other cool topics, or are we pretty much out of topics? I covered, I think, my last one. Oh, we never talked about the green drive update. Okay, so we'll go really fast. Green drives are faster now. Yeah, they went from 125 megabytes per second writes to 150 megabytes per second writes, and they went from... Yeah, and that was about the same for reads. Yeah, the scaling was about the same. So it was about an outright 20% improvement in performance, like across the board, which is awesome. And now they come with 3D balance. Yeah, which means they don't vibrate, and they should, in theory, last longer. Yep. They have a way more advanced head technology now, similar to what WD's been using in Enterprise drives, which is cool. One terabyte platters. Which is good. Fewer moving parts is always better for mechanical things. I mean, look how many moving parts you have, and look how defective you are. Look at your arm. Look at your arm. Whatever, man. I can do this. Bam. Yeah, wrong arm. Oh yeah? I can do this. Oh. I lose. Okay, if you two... oh, here we go, here we go, here we go. If we made lumberjacking the game, Kristo92355052 would buy it. Excellent. If you guys make it, I'll buy it. Awesome. We should totally make lumberjacking the game. Thanks, guys. Can you... Everky Beacon for the win? Yep, yep, yep, yep. Awesome. There's a game called Woodcutting Simulator 2012. There's so many of these simulator games. You have got to be kidding me. Farm Simulator 2012 or 2013 or something beat out Modern Warfare 3. Okay, is this real? Yeah. No way. I'm pretty sure it is. Look up Farm Simulator... Multiplayer Edition? Look up Farm Simulator versus Modern Warfare 3. Okay. Are you sure that's not fake? I'm pretty damn sure. Okay, Wood... No, Farm Simulator. No, no, I want to look at this. Oh, this I have no idea. There's a demo. No way. There is a demo. Oh my goodness. Okay, Extreme Woodcutting. You might want to mute it. Oh, sorry, sorry. Okay, Extreme Woodcutting. It's not muted. It's just low. No freaking way. He's not lined up properly. Come on, this guy's a noob. No freaking way. You are not in the... No freaking way. This does not exist. Okay, well, it looks like I've been beat to the punch here with my Epic Woodcutting Lumberjacking idea. It's even multiplayer. But it's not GTA version. You can't steal. It's not good enough. How is this even a game? I'm serious. Okay, fine, fine, fine. Farm Simulator versus Modern Warfare 3. Okay, Farming Simulator, Epicness. No, there's no way that's right. Okay, we can check out the Farm Simulator, Epicness, though. I'll try to find it. Okay. Come on. So you dirt bike around? Is that what this is? This is Epicness, so it's probably not what it's intended for. It doesn't even fall. Look at the physics. Look at the physics. He's riding a motorcycle sideways. The graphics kind of remind me of Armada. What is he doing? I don't know. This is terrible. This is terrible. I can't watch this. My head just wants to explode now. Okay, well, okay. I can't handle this anymore. Okay, I think we're done for the livestream for tonight, guys. Thank you for watching. Thank you for tuning in. Slick, are you going to be joining us next week? What do you think? Yeah, I plan to. Okay, so Slick is planning to continue to join the livestreams, so that's going to be good. That's going to be fun. We will check out the contest. Okay, yes. We're going to deal with the contest entries now. I would love for you guys to tweet at me or... What's the other way? Tweet at Slick, at Slick PC. The thing here, see, that one. At Slick PC. It's like pointing at your crotch. It's like tweet there. Tweet at Slick PC if you think we should spend more or less time on Twitter Q&A or if you prefer the more like panel discussion things on the topics that we come up with. Or should we follow on focus topics like we think of or just random stuff like we seem to do? Yeah, guys, we want your input on the show because ultimately the idea is we want to have an awesome livestream for you every week, so let us know what you want and thank you and good night. Camera's over there. Wave at them. Bye. Wave at them.