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I wonder if that would just be the solution I should I should yell at Brandon to bring me the other thing And if we just each wore lavs, I wonder if that would just be better Anyway, guys, we've got a great show for you today as always this week The big topics are the game works controversy Nvidia and AMD are at it again and Surprising super butthurt at each other again surprising. We're really surprised. Oh, yeah You're a little far over that waste scoochin. We never we never can quite get the whole where we should put like X's on the chair so that we know like where it aligns with kind of the butthole So that you can be in exactly the right spot every week Yeah, that would work. Yeah I mean if we didn't want to go for the whole butthole thing then we could just put like But marks around the outside of where the cheeks go But then if one of us put on some weight then we wouldn't be able to see them anyway Not that that's happened either of us lately We switched I wouldn't we switched I know oh my goodness we did too. Yeah You'll get back All right, so there's the AMD thing There's an SSD middleware that could be coming that could they're claiming could Drupal your SSDs performance And this is without actually buying a new SSD Although I'd be surprised to see something like that implemented for free. What else we got? Whoa, I gotta jump back up there. Google is gonna start building their own self-driving cars They've had this kind of stuff going on for a while, but they're actually gonna start manufacturing these cars Which is really interesting and true crypt may or may not be compromised Talk about that more later may not Yeah, there's new stuff that I found recently. Oh even more new stuff. Okay, this is an ever-changing topic So our sponsors of the show today are Asus with the excellent g750 jz gaming notebook and of course modus who are running their geek stakes 2014 Facebook sweepstakes where you and Anyone, you know who's interested in getting a job as a in the IT industry can go and head over to Facebook.com Modus to get more details on how you can win a bunch of really cool stuff. It's been running all week and actually we've been Getting a lot of pretty darn positive feedback about it So stay tuned for us to explain more about that later after we actually do a show here. So First order of business, you know what? Why don't we just straight up jump into the Nvidia AMD thing? I think that's a that's a pretty nice topic to give to the people who were sitting there waiting for us to start the show You guys are awesome. Thank you for being on time even though we rarely are we on time today? Ish ish like one minute late. Yeah, I think we're like one minute late and we pre streamed a little bit before But like my laptop still isn't plugged in So if screen sharing doesn't work the way that it normally should then we're gonna have to wait a little bit longer Screen-sharing doesn't work the way that it normally should then that checklist. Yeah, we're gonna be in a little bit of trouble here. So So this was posted originally by Booker Dewitt on the forum and it is an article from Forbes about why Watchdogs is bad news for AMD users and potentially the entire PC gaming Ecosystem so this isn't exactly a new thing for AMD to wave the flag about and what they're basically saying is That game works represents a clear and present threat to gamers by deliberately crippling performance on AMD products now what game works effectively is is it's a it's a it's a toolkit that game developers can use to implement features or basically features features or graphical Well, really features features features features implement features into their games without Actually coding the whole thing themselves. So when I was at Nvidia's Montreal event they were showing off some of the big improvements that they had made recently to game works with things like particles and fire where To put it sort of in really really simple terms It's kind of like on a camera having a profile that makes the image Look better or adds an effect to your image where the game developer doesn't actually have to dial in all the manual settings And figure out how to do themselves So it's basically like think of it like dragging and dropping fire effects into your game so that it looks like this great realistic fire When all you had to do yourself was like put it there and then it animates itself So that's what game works is but what AMD doesn't like about it Is that developers license these proprietary Nvidia technologies in order to make their games look great? But that doesn't give AMD any kind of real insight or necessarily a way to optimize their driver to perform Well when rendering that feature in that game so things like smoke and lighting and textures and shadows and all that kind of stuff can Our hurt performance on AMD cards says Robert Halleck. So Participation often okay. So okay. This is from the original article So participation in the game works program often precludes the developer from accepting AMD suggestions that would improve performance directly in the game code the most desirable form of optimization So basically he's also saying that this makes it more difficult for them to perform their own after the fact driver optimizations and It's basically yeah, you know AMD doesn't support or condone such activities and it's like super poopy and terrible Now a couple days went by and Nvidia fired back I'm a little surprised at how long it took but I can understand why they would have wanted to be very careful about their response They don't want to say anything. That's that's not correct So Nvidia came back and said look we'll have a we have a kickoff meeting with the developers We'll brainstorm cool new effects we'll show them the catalogs that we have and Then we'll prototype something outside of their engine give them an idea what the effect might look like and we work with the developers But we don't and never have restricted anyone from getting access as part of our Agreements not with watch dogs and not with other titles our agreements focus on interesting things We're gonna do together to improve the experience for all PC gamers. And of course for Nvidia customers We don't have anything in there restricting anyone from accessing source code or binaries and developers are free to give builds out to whoever they want It's their product So Pretty much where we're at right now is he says she says which is the usual thing with AMD and Nvidia I don't think I don't think we're likely to get any kind of an official response from any game developer because the last thing They're gonna want to do is jeopardize. Yeah their relationship Remember game developers need both AMD and Nvidia on board ultimately even uh, the way it's meant to be played title The dev wants it to run on AMD cards They're not gonna ignore 40% of the market 30 however odd percent of the market By just making it run like poo on AMD cards if they don't have to There's there's some speculation about the whole source code thing because they could be like, yeah, you can release the source code But our parts are obfuscated so you can't actually Read that part of the source codes you can get to some of it But then whenever one of the game works effects is gonna go off You're really not gonna know what's happening there So it's it's it's it comes down to wording and what's actually being said So let's talk a little bit about what you'd rather see I mean AMD did their whole mantle thing which I don't think they've actually opened it up to Nvidia yet Even though they said that they would at some point where basically the game would have to be coded completely differently to run On DirectX versus on mantle. Whereas what Nvidia is doing is they're approaching developers and going okay Here's a feature it'll run on whatever but the performance is obviously Built for our hardware. We're optimizing for Nvidia And the positive and negative things here are both pretty clear to me so positive number one is that we're getting much better visual effects than we otherwise would have been able to or Much less work required for very small devs to create visually stunning games Games that will run on AMD but won't necessarily perform the best and then the disadvantage is that it creates the segmentation where Nvidia is kind of Helping developers make games that run better on Nvidia hardware And potentially depending on who you believe make it more difficult to run on AMD hardware or at least more difficult to optimize Yeah, I don't know if I'd say more difficult to run. So if you had your way Would you say I? Developer X I would like you to use game works or I wouldn't like you to use game works And let's say let's say I do let's give you guys to you know what let's get struggle trouble it So I want two options. I want triple a developer and then I want indie developer. So allow multiple poll choices So a a developer. Yes a a developer. No indie. Yes indie No Would you like for them to use it or would you like for them to not if they can save some dev? Costs if they can bring it to you earlier if they can spend that time on developing gameplay more as opposed to animating better fire or something like that How do you guys feel about it? Because I mean to me game works is a very natural evolution of what already existed as gaming evolved the way it's meant to be played these programs where Nvidia and AMD and Often both of them at the same time are working very closely with game developers in order to optimize the game to me This is just Nvidia taking a very proactive approach to that So instead of a game developer building something bringing it to Nvidia and then going okay, let's optimize it They're giving them something that's optimized in the first place It doesn't feel wrong to me But it does put AMD at a disadvantage Advantage but that's just AMD or that's just Nvidia working very closely with developers and proactively helping developers make better games Even though they could they could go out of their way and let the source code be leaked to AMD If you were in video, would you do that? See, but they built the technology Yeah, you've got you've got multiple arguments for that as well But then you can turn around to go AMD built stress effects and allows anyone to use it in In all one game that it's being used in whereas Nvidia has created to I mean I mean, that's something that I got a look at too and I go, okay AMD or Nvidia can say here's what we're giving to developers But at the end of the day whether or not developers are using them to me even though I'm not a game dev and I don't really Understand how these tools work very intimately. I look at it and I go well, this is the one the developers are actually using How useful was the other stuff that they're not using I don't know yeah, I Don't know personally I don't think I'm as as against games works as a lot of people are and that's that's another thing too Like if you look back at the Forbes article, they have a picture for 290 X versus 770 If you see that oh Can you send me the link it's in the dock it's in the dock. Oh that makes sense. Okay right there. There we go All right So guys here's the the image that Luke is referring to and then if you go to I wonder if I can find it on the Network, I should be able to find a little network. I should have looked for this earlier, but my charts I Seriously don't think it was that bad like the the gap differences for tier equivalents, right? We're really not that far away, especially considering like how scared so many people were at the very beginning and Considering that we run stock coolers on everything. Yeah, so the current Nvidia stock coolers are making colder cards And the current AMD ones are which are running really hot So I'm gonna be and Nvidia benefit from a cooler running card. Yeah, exactly So some of our overclocks are getting higher on Nvidia right now Just because we have more overclocking headroom due to thermals if we we we do stock Cards, so next generation might flip-flop reference cards reference cards. Yeah, sorry so Like it's not like that changed and the AMD cards are still really close So, I don't know I don't see it being this horrible thing that everyone's talking about like maybe it was harder for AMD to do it I know they're talking about how they're not gonna be able to fix it as much afterwards with drivers as they could have before It's in the actual folder for the actual thing. Yeah, that's okay I mean ultimately the thing here though is that both AMD and Nvidia did manage to have optimized drivers available for the game's public release and then For all the good it did anyone because watch dogs is Well, yeah a bit of a dog right now in the Forbes article He's showing 290 X and 70 being very competitive in mine here. I've got it now. Here we go There so guys have a look at this so we've got 780 and 290 X being within 10% of each other and then 290 trailing another Couple of percent after that with 770 getting absolutely destroyed and like everyone calls us Nvidia fanboys and Like what the Forbes article showed them with the 770 winning and they're like Oh, he was crushed in this like no, they did totally fine It wasn't even that bad and For how much they were suppressed and stuff Yeah, like I don't actually see it as being that big of a deal Maybe the run that I had didn't have a crazy amount of game works effects. I don't like I Don't know. I wonder what Forbes comm knows about game benchmarking anyway No, I'm not even I'm not even I actually didn't read the article. So straight up. I didn't read the article Maybe you guys can tell me maybe they have a fantastic benchmarking methodology I'll be the first to admit ours isn't the best either But I like I just I wonder how they're actually benchmarking the game because It just has nothing to do with the results that we're getting so and I to my knowledge They haven't done a ton of video card reviews Like I saw an r9 295 X to one because I was getting a lot of tweets back when that card was released going hey Linus, why did you not get a sample of this card and Forbes comm did and I was kind of like, I don't know I'm because Forbes isn't really known They're more known for market analysis and less known for actually taking physical hardware and reviewing it So it just seemed like a bit of a bit of a weird thing to me. Yeah So there you have it guys That's the current state of affairs So we'll update you guys if anything happens But I personally see this as a bit of a non issue for the moment Especially because the differences in performance really don't look very different from other games Whether they are a way it's meant to be played or a gaming evolved title. In fact, I haven't seen Obvious optimization to the point where it's like yes, this game is clearly handicapped in a really long time. Yeah All right, so moving on to our next topic Speaking of watch dogs. This was an article from the register, but They're not the only ones reporting on this tens of thousands of watch dogs pirates enslaved by Bitcoin Botmaster, I think that's a sensationalist headline But it doesn't change anything about the fact that Pirating games is just plain not a very good idea Sometimes so basically what was happening is your machine you would install the game and run it and your machine would launch another executable that would start to mine bitcoins for the Right now it's not very clear whether it was the original cracker of the game or whether it was someone who took a cracked release Yeah, they never did maybe you have some on the on the watch dogs video People were saying that I was wrong because I said the the guy that cracked it put in the thing But then other places where I've looked up are saying that the guy that cracked it just faked skid Rose names Good Rose a very popular well-known game cracker So, I don't know what actually happened but something happened and one that a lot of people downloaded had a minor in it So so the great thing about this is particularly on lower-end machines that was having a dramatic impact on the game's performance Which might be where some of the oh watch dogs runs terribly stuff was coming from although from what we've seen it really doesn't Look better than something like my version also has a minor One thing that I thought was pretty funny interesting What a free game that instead of being you can choose you can go. Okay, I'll pay for it I'll mine for you or I'll mine for you That's interesting. Anyway, I'm moving moving One thing I want to bring up one another one of the comments on the video I should have quoted this somewhere, but the guy was saying It's it's it's funny because the pirated version didn't get a three-hour mission Which was defeating you play to be able to play the game That was hilarious. I don't know. He might have said it in some other way But yeah, it's so true I trying to benchmark it was really difficult because logging into you play was such a challenge Half the time would just be like you don't have an internet connection. I'm like actually yeah, I do Would really like if you just worked now and you have to sit there clicking try again Like forever. So the way that it worked is it would launch this miner and then once you close down the game that would actually Continue to run so whoever did this is like Pretty free. Oh, yeah happy right now. Yeah, and then there's a bunch of pretty upset people about the Well, the fact that they just generated a bunch of bitcoins for some butt head you parted the game. So I I can't feel that bad. One of the conspiracy theories running around was that Ubisoft did it? I don't think they're that in need of money, but that would be about would be pretty funny leaking your own pirated game But just putting a like a Bitcoin miner in it. So it's like yeah, you don't want to pay for the game Guess what dog that should be really funny or if it was like some guy at Ubisoft that did it with that intention Oh Fantastic. All right. Let's move on to our oh, we never got the straw poll results. Did I get a link for that? I posted in chat a billion times. I don't think I have the link so Okay, I I'm afraid of what's gonna happen if we do this, but if I just Go to chat. Okay, I'm going to chat. I'm going to chat. I got this. I got this Okay, guys, so let's have a look at the straw poll results. I don't remember what I asked. Ah, yes Should they use Gameworks and Wow So the majority of you you made it a multi vote poll, right? Yeah Well, I don't think too many people voted for more than one result I think that adds up to about a hundred percent But anyway, the majority of you are just saying yes You you and especially indie dads you'd like to see indie dads be able to take advantage of this deliver a game I mean that runs on AMD and we're based on the amount of votes there So, okay, it doesn't sure yeah, so that might look better than if I don't remember what I'm talking Right that might look better than if they had to code all this stuff themselves as long as it runs on AMD Then you're still totally cool with them optimizing it using Nvidia's tool so I mean, I think that's great because there's been a lot of a lot of Back and forth about this with some people declaring game works to be the worst thing ever and others, you know Kind of trumpeting the Nvidia horn and I don't think either is the right answer It's somewhere in between as it usually is whenever fanboys get involved in some kind of an argument. Yeah I don't know. I just I just don't like when I when I was reading through all this kind of stuff I was expecting the worst thing ever me too. And then it was just really not that bad I was I was expecting half of watchdogs to basically Be running off of like Nvidia grid at their headquarters and Ubisoft didn't even know what was inside the black box But it's not that at all Wasn't it Bioshock where if you had an AMD card you couldn't see certain effects in the game You can see the water coming out of a pipe. Ah, you're thinking of Borderlands 2. Borderlands 2. Yeah Sorry, no, like I was expecting something more along those lines Yeah and that is that is still something that a bothers me and B I do think is terrible for the industry like the way that PhysX is implemented and will always be implemented as long as it's not something that AMD and Nvidia users can leverage Equally is just not that compelling to me once we can use PhysX technology across the board You could actually make a game that's designed to use it Yeah, and make that destructibility of the environment and all those other things that you can do through PhysX Part of an integral part of gameplay I mean the the last game we got that really used PhysX was like cell factor and that was a PhysX showcase piece. Yeah, still waiting and for that and poopy Not a very well received game at all I Mean as much as it's great to walk around on the street and like kick cans out of your way It doesn't feel like a compelling gameplay Element to me. All right, so the original poster on LinusTechTips.com was Ren for this one Finally a super easy name to say. Yeah, I know right. I have so much difficulty with that. Ren, please post more JP research team develops SSD middleware that improves speed by 300% and The headlines don't seem to necessarily all agree about exactly how this works But basically what they're doing is instead of writing data to a on a new blank page data is written on a fragmented page Located in the block to be erased next so it's kind of predictively because the way that SSDs work is You can't just overwrite something you have to blank it first Which is actually the time-consuming part of writing something but it gets more complicated than that You don't just you can't just blank something and then write over top of it because you might need to rearrange Some of the stuff that's written within that cell and put it somewhere else But that gets more complicated than that because you don't even if you were to rewrite all this stuff all over the place Blank it and then write to it. You don't want to unnecessarily blank pages if you don't have to because that Significantly degrades the longevity of the SSD. So the way that they work is really complicated What this is gonna do is it's gonna look for predictively which one is going to be blanked next and then try to Proactively make room for your right so it might not affect read speeds that much But it will affect reads in the context of that You won't have to wait around for rights and it should affect write speeds dramatically And they're also claiming that you could increase the product life up to I think they're saying around 55% Not to mention you lower power consumption because you're not doing as much random shuffling around of data But wait, there's more It looks like this could be as simple as a middleware layer that sits between the SSD and your operating system and Duzzled or between your driver or between the controller sits in the middle. It sits in the middle somewhere and You might not even need a new SSD Which is kind of awesome. I I don't see a ton of different manufacturers implementing this for free Yeah, I'd imagine it's gonna be more like a now with turbo charge uber Wang or I don't know. I don't know wanger could mean fast Probably not no Cars totally wanger. Oh god, don't make that a thing Um, it was in a simulation So I'm not sure if we'll see exactly this much speed and power improvement all that kind of stuff in real life But it's exciting to see someone improving SSDs in this way. Yeah. Yeah, I mean SSD the thing about SSDs is look at how stagnant it's been You know in terms of flash speeds in terms of interface speeds and in terms of capacities It's not really moving very fast and everyone's kind of jumping on the whoa We need PCI Express and we need SATA Express and well, we needed it two years ago Did we flash is not getting faster with each new generation? Flash is continuing to actually get slower and less reliable because of the smaller manufacturing processes And it's not like and we're not gonna get a dramatic improvement there until we get a big shift in the way that flash is manufactured So you were saying wanger and chat raise your wangers Okay, guys, you've got two minutes of raising wangers all you want and then we need it to go away or we're gonna start giving people times at timeouts But basically we need more we need smarter software we need smarter controllers in order to really get more out of our SSDs I think a great example is Plexters m6e Which is not straight-up not faster than a SATA SSD in real-world tests Yes, you get better sequential reads and not necessarily even writes, but we're limited by other factors still so yeah I don't know. It'll be interesting to see what this does when it's actually in the hands of people instead of a simulation Yeah, because a lot of the time I love it how we're always getting these like new holographic disk enables 500 terabytes per disk and then it turns out it's impossible to manufacture There's some other kind of show-stopping and like you can you can put data on it, but you can never read from it It's like oh, yeah, like you have to like make it out of like, you know ubiquitaneum Which contrary to the name is not you because just like so everyone has this one That is a segue into Skype translator because it's something that they're talking about which I really don't think is gonna happen At least anytime soon Way down in rapid fire Okay, I'll find it go ahead and keep there's not even really much I want to say about this there they're trying to do something called Skype translator which as far as I can tell is gonna take what you say and Translate it into some form of TTS or text-to-speak and then say it out of the other person's speakers or headphones Whatever so you can talk to people over Skype in different languages and it's all translated This is posted by raffi on the forum, but like the open API for Microsoft translating stuff is terrible and it's Microsoft so they'll probably work on it and then like it'll disappear or something and There's way more important things in my opinion that they need to fix with Skype. So hopefully they do that instead of making this I don't know how many people are gonna go for voice chat over Skype that don't know how to speak a common language But it might be fun. Honestly when looking at this I see I see it more as being fun then Anything else like maybe it'll help people learn different languages or something like that I don't know. I Mean I see it being kind of niche like something like this Like I actually I didn't know about this even though it's about a four-year-old app for iPhone at this point But word lens allows you to look at something in real time through your phone and have it actually translate on the fly And it's actually like it's pretty darn cool. We were playing around with it a little bit today at NCIX, but by and large Most people won't be using it. I mean there's I think that in the future We're gonna see language barriers broken down this way, but I just I don't think this is really it We're so far away that it's kind of it's not like Oculus where it's like Yeah, we're like pumped about this because it's like happening soon. It's like yeah My phone can barely tell what I'm saying to it now with like Google voice. Yeah, I Don't think it's really gonna work when it's like going through different languages And then there's all the problems with converting language into another language and then having it still make any sense at all Yep, that's a huge issue, especially when you bring in stuff like slang and other things Which leads us pretty well into Google starting to build their own self-driving cars. I wish I could say I called this I did say I thought we were gonna get an iCar but Apple has instead gone It's funny you look at the reversal here where Apple used to be all about building it themselves and Google used to be all about partnering Whereas now for phones. I think that they have Been bitten a little bit on the whole partnering thing. They've created a monster out of Samsung and kind of gone Well, hold on a second. They would have been nowhere. Yeah without Android without us and you look at glass There I mean, yes, they're releasing the lightweight Android that's gonna run on wearables and they will have partners But it just they've done most of the branding around it themselves with their own hardware before they're even talking about You know letting anyone else have access to any of this stuff you look at what they're doing with this car where they're gonna build Their own self-driving car you look at nexus program or whatever. It's called silver now or whatever else it seems feels like they're moving in the direction of Controlling the user experience and there is something to be said for that But then Apple on the other hand is going okay Yeah, we're gonna partner with Ford and Toyota and everyone to integrate our technology into the existing products. So this is it guys Yeah, it looks ridiculous, but that's not really the point. It looks like a super unimpressed little like teddy bear Yeah, it's kind of look like a face doesn't it Yeah, and if you like a totally not happy face at all he's just like nope I'm doing things you enslaved me to drive around so I guess I can do that or whatever. It is kind of slavery I guess so Basically, I'm so sad this was posted on the forum by Johnners and Instead of even having a steering wheel or pedals, which is something I personally am pretty uncomfortable with I'd like to have the option to manual override to manual override To manual override. I mean this is like that That Doctor Who episode where the iRobot thing. Yeah, it's well like anything where you know, some One decides yeah, we're gonna drive you into the sea. Yeah, there's nothing you can do about it I I would like to have a steering wheel and pedals, but no it will have a stop and go button and That is pretty much it Very interesting self-driving You know he can't he can't be sad because the plastic doesn't go that far So maybe he is sad Maybe it's like even worse than we expect because he can't pull the size of his mouth down anymore So he's showing the least amount of happiness as he can and Google is forcing that little car To be a minimum amount of happy. Would you miss driving? Mmm, gross Probably a Little bit not really though because if I could do other stuff while I was in the car Be a lot more productive a lot of people won't be able to anyway just because of motion sickness Yeah, I'd probably Like I don't I I used to get motion sick pretty hardcore But I just like I think I built up a tolerance to it Mine seems to flip-flop like one day it'll be a problem and I can't read my phone and then the other day it's totally fine and like it seems to depend on what car I'm in and Who's driving and like there's tons of different variables. So I have no idea It's funny how it's designed to make it seem non-threatening and help people accept self-driving technology But I just think it looks kind of ridiculous. It does and like saying that that quote right there is like wow. I'm now scared Apparently earlier ones will have extra control so test drivers can take over if there's a problem That sounds like the one that I would be interested in having. Yeah, so it'll it will be an electric vehicle It'll have a combination of lasers and radar to drive. I mean I personally I'm really excited for self-driving technology I just am not a hundred percent sure how I feel about Google doing it at this point with how broke Google Maps has been for me lately. It's just Every little thing and you know what? I'm gonna get feedback from people where they go. It's great. It's amazing It works for me perfectly every time. I'm like, yeah, that's fine, but that doesn't change the fact that my experience Hasn't been that positive lately and all the feedback about how take me home doesn't work and everyone's like, yeah It does I demoed on the show last week. You know what? It's straight-up doesn't work for me. Sorry It doesn't work for it's not consistent enough and we're talking about my life and this and this is like People publicly complain about both these things But there's far more people publicly complaining about Google Maps and I've been having tons of troubles with it I mean you were trying to find a Tim Hortons It shouldn't be hard to find a Tim Hortons in Canada and there were two That my mom was able to give us directions to that Google Maps was not giving him the nearest Locations for and was telling him to go what like 20 minutes away or something far away And there was one like down the street walking distance from where I'd parts. So I'm sitting here going. What are you guys doing? We're talking finding the nearest branch of a chain of restaurants It's super popular in Canada chain of restaurants is Functionality that worked two years ago And this one was in a mall and had been there for a very long time and it didn't know and there was another one Down the road that wasn't in a mall in case being in the mall was the problem This is technology that worked really well back when I first started using Google Maps I'm having a lot of trouble with it lately. Yeah, so I don't know I'm still planning to have you switch to the iPhone for a little while just to try it out Try Apple Maps because I was pretty impressed as long as it doesn't like drive me into a lake like it used to then It'll probably be fine We can't forget about that Speaking of Apple Apple has confirmed the acquisition of beats So that whole video that leaked where dr. Dre was boasting about the world's first I think who was it? I think it was someone else actually pointing at him and sort of boasting for him But the point was the world's first rap billionaire You know what? Good for him is all I really have to say it is it is inexplicable to me That beats headphones were everything But it was reading the verge article here This is posted originally on the forum by the best efforts of like every tech enthusiast ever Alex goes high This this was I think it was 30% or something like that I can't I can't find the number but based on some market research. I think it was something like 30% of headphone buyers above a hundred dollars wanted an endorsement on it and I'm kind of sitting here going like I Weep For all of this Like I just don't know What to say anymore there was a wait they wanted an endorsement They yeah They wanted to see an endorsement before they would be willing to spend big money on a pair of headphones So from from a previous verge article Allegedly a pair of $200 beats headphones was somewhere in the neighborhood of $14 to produce I'm not sure if I quite believe that because that might be a bomb cost but bomb costs do not Represent the amount of product development that goes into building something. It doesn't account for R&D It doesn't account for you know plastic molding. It doesn't account for any other prototyping processes It doesn't account for marketing where? Admittedly a big part of the beats experience is the marketing and celebrity endorsements Probably the biggest that is probably the biggest part of it But the point is that even the R&D just straight up doesn't account for all of that But they're also they're also buying other things while they're buying this company like they're not just buying like beats Yes, so there's more to it than the headphones I mean, I think that the fact that the brands are so similar in that they're able to achieve a better than Industry margins on their products. I think that's a key part of the acquisition Although one other thing that I'd like to see if it happens is Apple's been willing to take Less than beats margin on their products for the sake of building a truly high quality premium product and I would like to see if Apple's willing to spend 44 dollars instead of fourteen dollars or even $80 on a pair of beats headphones that they're willing to sell for 200 or 250 I would like to see what they can bring to that because guys and don't kid yourselves the companies that you love You know the Sennheisers and AKG's and Audio Technica's of the world. They're making pretty good margin on headphones, too So it's not like beats is is doing something. It doesn't cost $1,500 to make a pair of HD 800s Yeah, to be a hundred percent clear if you think it costs that much you're dumb. Yeah, I'm sorry But you're actually stupid. It doesn't cost that much. But again, there's the R&D So I would like to see if Apple could tone down the whole celebrity endorsement thing something they haven't done much with With I much of anything since like the Bono days So if they could tone that down a little bit spend a little bit more on the actual materials and R&D I'd be interested to see what they can come up with but they're acquiring more than that They're also getting their beats is streaming service Which is something that Apple hasn't been able to or willing to build for themselves and is becoming much more popular with services like Spotify Taking the place of the more traditional. It's funny to be calling dollar mp3 downloads from iTunes traditional It feels like not that long ago. The iPod revolution was happening. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, one thing that's been really frustrating lately is like one one group that I've been listening to a lot is What is it? Jukebox. Oh, man. Now, I'm not gonna be able to remember what it's called But it's a this group on YouTube that makes music. The only way to possibly buy their stuff is through iTunes Like I don't want to install that terrible piece of crap, right? It's not monster cat. Is it? No. Yeah, okay Yeah, I'm not sure I can't remember the name of it someone wants Linus tech audio headphones Yeah, I don't think so. I'll be the first to I'll be the first to admit that I don't I don't know enough about headphones to make headphones So there you have it it happened. I I'm super super interested to see what happens this is Apple's biggest acquisition to date and Let's move on then. Shall we true crypt has been compromised? compromised Or maybe hasn't been It's an interesting setup if you go to the link at the bottom of the true crypto article in the dock Yeah, so posted by ion Bassa on the forum here Yeah, that's that was a comment on the thread. Oh, sorry. Sorry Well, I think I closed it now posted by Astro zombie. Sorry about that Now if you go to the bottom link true crip dot CH, this is a new movement that has come up since the whole true Crypt thing happened and this website not only tracks What's going on with true crip right now? It's the like safe thing which who knows if that's actually true or not But someone's saying that it's currently safe at this point in time But that the source code is just being is just sitting there So how long it'll be safe for we don't know or if it is even actually safe right now We don't know these guys are planning on trying to pick up the project. It's not a What do they call it's not like a branch or anything like that They're taking part of the license agreement of true crypt which allows people to kind of mess with their Source code and they're gonna be making their own. So anyone who had true crypt anyone who's using true crypt We're probably not screwed Luckily this group has come together and hopefully good things will come from this there. They have a blog coming soon They have a forum coming soon and any information that you need about true crypt will probably be at true crip dot CH Okay, so Who the heck knows what's really going on right now a little bit of what was going on It seems like with the close of Windows XP and most things being built into operating systems The true good project has been kind of abandoned True crip wasn't it was it was kind of taken for granted for a really long time The fact that it even existed And it's been kept up to date by just this fairly small group of people for a very long time And they're just kind of done That's about it. They're just yeah. No, it's been like ten years or something I don't remember exactly how long it's been but they're done with it. Now. There's Windows 8.1 is blocking it with their smart screen feature. It's it's where is it? I think it's detecting it as malware Yeah, because it's it might be it might be the latest version, but then maybe it isn't we don't know. Yeah Yeah, I one thing is I wouldn't go to true crypts actual website to download it I would probably go to true crip dot CH as far as I've seen a lot of people talking right now true Crip dot CH seems to be legit and The true crip org website is a lot of people have been speculating it might have been broken into and things might have been injected and there might be problems going on I Don't know as like seriously as far as I can tell there's new news coming out about this like every hour I check up on it and we've been on the aft we've been on the show for a little while now So maybe something even changed But yeah, if you're very interested in true crip, I would check out true grip dot CH and keep paying attention there Hopefully they get their forms and their blog going soon so that people can have a hub to talk about it on And that should be good And that should be good. I hope so. This is the conclusion. I really like true crip and I use it a lot So I really hope that someone properly picks up this project and keeps it going And then all the like oh my god, the NSA was running it and all this other crap stuff doesn't end up being true It probably is whatever what I'm hiding is really not that important so it's fine. Oh Oh, well, I guess you can have my online banking information, which you probably have anyways jerks I know right It's like the most disappointing thing ever everything feels futile at this point, but it isn't it's still worth it to keep trying to To keep trying to protect your rights and all that noise. Yeah Speaking of protecting your rights. This was originally posted on the forum by gamer dad All right Nintendo has a plan for it for let's plays and I like if you guys remember that whole big Fiasco that was going on where oops. Oh, there we go where Nintendo was pulling the monetization from anyone that was uploading their content So that's audio or video from their games in fact, we had it happen back when we were playing Super Mario World on the after party and Our monetization got pulled on that video. So they just started pulling monetization back to themselves Because I don't know if you guys know how this works But there's a few different things that can happen if you're infringing content. So for example My default okay. So number one is if you have no infringing content in your video Then you dispute whatever claim and then Google gives it back to you Usually three days to 14 days later from my experience if you legitimately have infringing content in your video There's a couple of things that the owner can do so I might default channel upload setting is monetization But then I uploaded my wedding video to my Linus cat tips channel, which had a song in it Didn't even think about it. So the owner of that song Went and they have two options They can either pull down my video or they can monetize against my video so that every view instead of monetizing for me Monetizes for them and that's what they opted to do So the video is still up there and so that's what Nintendo opted to do is they just pulled the monetization from these videos to themselves And I kind of look at that and I go like okay. Yes, I Understand you have the right to do that. It's sort of it's just dumb It's not very it's not very black and white whether or not they can Things like they whether or not it's a derivative work or whether or not it's who it actually belongs to is really not that Clear right now legally, but YouTube's allowing it and Nintendo's doing it and even if they do have the right It's still kind of a dick move. Yeah But anyway that whole thing happened so now their brilliant Plan is to develop an affiliate program to share the revenue that they've scooped between itself YouTube and the content creator How do you not understand what Nintendo's biggest problem right now is that everyone's just ignoring them because it's hard to remember that they exist at this point in time and Then they're trying to make it really difficult for people to bring them into the spotlight Like what what do you what are you possibly thinking like if any? and the kinds of games that Nintendo focuses on things like party games or Platformers, it's not gonna ruin the experience by watching someone play it Like I'm not gonna not want to play Super Smash Brothers because I had the entire experience from watching someone else play it That's stupid like especially something like Mario Party what you're actually watching that for is like the experience of those people playing so if it's a game that's heavily story driven and something where I really think that Gamers are going to watch a let's play instead of buying the game. I get it. I understand the developers perspective here It's really not fair something like walking dead or something like wolf among us where it's or brothers tale of two sons Basically just a story. It's a movie in the form of a game an interactive game story movie. Whatever you get my point I get it but something like Nintendo's games really if anything I agree with the let's players and I agree with the youtubers who are saying look we're driving exposure for your game You should be paying us to play your game and broadcast it to our thousands of fans So it's just so backwards details will be announced in the future, but I'm really I want to like Nintendo I really do. Yeah, I was like a Nintendo kid growing up so many people where I was you just you're disappointing me Nintendo is the revenue really so much that it's gonna Your millions of dollars deficit. I don't think so. I think you have other things to focus on It's just it seems so blind like it seems like they just have no idea what's going on so does this all right this this Missing throat, and I have a bit of an off-and-on sort of good or bad relationship We're a little up and down because sometimes he can be a bit of a butt head and other times his butt headedness Really hits the nail on the head, and I think this post is actually pretty good It starts with and it's okay. We'd love for news posts to be written in a neutral voice I hope he changes his title to resident butthead resident, but I hope so too Um just because you call them that I think that would be hilarious so the the first line in his article and it is his write-up about it is a developers defense of 30 frames per second aka the resolution is just a number argument on crack and So 60f this is this is from who is this what dev is this from again? I can't remember they make 1866 I believe it is okay. I remember the actual name of the depth of time so here it goes 60 FPS is really responsive and really cool. I enjoy playing games at 60 FPS But one thing that really changes is the aesthetic of the game in 60 FPS. We're going for this filmic look So one thing that we knew immediately was films run at 24 FPS We're gonna run at 30 because 24 FPS does not feel good to play So there's one concession in terms of making it aesthetically pleasing, but it just has to feel good to play and I'm kind of sitting here going okay, so you both understand the issue and Entirely missed the point at the same time because you understood that 24 FPS might be good for film and isn't good for games But you didn't understand that 30 FPS Might look filmic in a video, but still isn't good for games It's still not responsive. We actually have a fastest possible episode about refresh rates and how 30 Hertz and Thereby 30 FPS is just plain not enough information for your eyes per second coming out tonight that is sort of along these lines, but Basically, here's the issue 24 FPS looks good in a movie because of the way a camera works And I don't even always agree with that and I don't even always agree either Fast motion in 24 frames per second looks very visually disorienting to me. You can see it chop I don't I think the last one that I saw was it's not defiance. Is it defiance? I don't remember. It's basically a different version of the Hunger Games, which is a different version of some other thing. Whatever. I don't care They go past this fence. Yeah, and there's a lot of tall poles on the fence And as it swings past it's just like slice slice slice and you can see the frames chopping. It's so looks Ridonkulous so but the reason it works is because the way that a camera whether it's film or whether it's a digital sensor captures light is by Exposing it for a certain amount of time. That's the shutter speed is how long it's being exposed for So what happens is if something's moving during that exposure period you get blur you get natural blur That's why a movie looks so much better with you while you watch it then it does if you grab a screen grab of it and it looks blurry and poopy because your brain is what's actually doing the Work whereas in a game you don't have motion blur naturally motion blur is not a natural side effect of Rendering a frame in motion you render frame by frame and motion blur that gets added to games is terrible because the only way to add motion blur is to either try to anticipate what's gonna happen next or Buffer two frames buffer an extra frame so that you can intentionally Blur the difference between them. That's how motion blur works in games It's a cheesy effect and it will never be correct. It'll never be good and it'll always add leg Maybe don't quote me on that. Maybe Some genius like by the time we're hooked up to like our oculus rifts and like our brain probe things It may actually know what you're gonna do next and put motion blur in for you But by that time we'll have displays that run at 600 Hertz and games that run at 600 frames per second anyway So it doesn't really matter We don't need motion blur in games and 30 FPS is not good enough and you can't compensate With motion blur to make it look more cinematic do it in your cutscene. Don't do it in the game And as gamers we have to all demand better We have to ask for better and I know the hardware for the Xbox one and the PlayStation 4 just straight up isn't good enough To run with modern lighting effects and all this other stuff so I guess PC I can't I can't find where this is but total here 30 FPS is not a divine choice It's not a design choice design choice. Sorry. It is a last resort when dealing with inferior hardware And he has a whole bunch of other quotes to and my favorite thing in this whole article actually was the very end So it's actually a Kotaku article originally I'll just go ahead and yeah It's it's bullet pointed actually if you scroll down But what he says is a higher frame rate does not significantly affect sales of a game a higher frame rate does not significantly affect the reviews of a game right there bullet pointed and like bolded on certain things and like that's a serious part of the article and Total biscuit just to whore them apart on like this exact thing I can't find the exact tweets that he has about it, but it's somewhere else, but just like yeah, actually it does Sorry, but you're totally wrong And if it doesn't it should and I put like one of the most outspoken people in terms of game reviews total biscuit Which is awesome Um constantly rips on games that are frame rate capped He's one of the biggest game reviewers there are are you that blind? Doesn't affect game reviews you're wrong 100% like just no If you were them, what would you do? What could you say you can't say the Xbox one in the PlayStation 4 are crappy? and and I would rather they code their game with better effects that we can enjoy on our PCs and let the console guys run at 30 frames per second rather than just dumbing down the way that the game runs outright So I still I still would rather they make 30 FPS games as long as I don't have to play them So if you're them, what can you say then you have no choice but to do exactly what they're doing No, they just built it terribly Just have it so that it looks better on PC and is able to run faster Yeah I have a crippled down version for console if they do that Then it looks like they're intentionally crippling the console version you have to I mean, I think okay Really there is a solution here and I'm just kind of being a jerk right now Give it give them a graphics slider on the console Or not yeah or a 3060 toggle Why not I could see that yeah Why not? I can see a lot of people taking advantage of that If the game can run on PS3 and PS4 then it can sure as hell run at 60 FPS on PS4 And like just yeah 3060 toggle that just does everything for you Yeah, why not? It just like turns down your resolution a whole bunch turns down any effects a whole bunch But gives you a smoother gameplay experience some people will prefer that And that's how you get like everybody on your side. Yep And because they're gonna be like, yeah It's a beautiful game unless you don't want it to be and then it runs at 60 FPS All right, so something that actually we should probably do our sponsors for the show today Number one is modus and where is my lower third for that? That isn't it, but we can go ahead and add it to that in the meantime here It's in the folder. Yes add media file and Live stream assets and integration lower thirds. This is really where is it? I'll show you how to do it faster later Is there a faster way to do this? Oh yeah, but it's cool. 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And then maybe the other one's two chains? Because he has two graphics cards? Boom! Stepped in! Anyways, I'm going to keep working Oh, I'm so tired of you And then there are other advantages with the thicker form factor as well We found that this notebook ran about 15 degrees cooler under load on the GPU Which is significant and ran significantly quieter In addition to being cooler with the fan noise being more A more desirable low hum versus a high pitched whine So there you go guys, the G750JZ is powerful enough for video editing and content creation Has a desktop grade, and ASUS doesn't call it that But I'm just going to call it that because it truly is It has a desktop grade graphics card in it Alright, what else we got here? Oh, that is faster Geek Stakes 2014! Modus is giving away a butt ton! Like one metric butt ton of really cool stuff Including an Oculus Rift A gaming notebook, they're giving away They gave away a gaming mouse already They're giving away a Lytro camera They're giving away all kinds of freaking awesome stuff And all you have to do is head over to their Facebook page So that's facebook.com slash modus And you will be entered for a chance to win It's open to US and Canadian residents And if you're wondering who the heck Modus is They are an IT staffing company Which is something that before they reached out to us about participating in Geek Stakes To celebrate Geek Pride Day I was like, what's that? And they're like, oh, well it's actually pretty simple For free, people can submit their resumes to us And then we will work with them and with companies Large and small, everything from startups to Fortune 500 companies To try to place people And the way they make their money Is they have the companies that hire their candidates pay them So ultimately there is no drawback To an IT professional reaching out to Modus And seeing what's out there Which is great, so if you don't have a job It's not a point in time that you want to be spending money to try and get a job Yeah, exactly, right? I'm gonna get the paid LinkedIn Because that one will be better And it is a lot better Yeah, but still LinkedIn is really good at making you pay For it to be useful at all And bugging you I know I never had a LinkedIn account, I got one recently I'm just like, wow, I don't want any more emails from you all You get a lot of emails Yeah, I do It's just like Just leave me alone, I don't care I just wanted to update my profile Because it seems smarter than writing a resume at this point in time I'm moving into the 21st century It's like, well, would you like a free trial of premium? Wait, people looked at your page! This guy sent you a message! Check your thing, please! You just got endorsed for these skills! Just like, go away! Endorse people, please! I'm not actually looking for a job right now This is a core part of our system I don't care about you, LinkedIn There should be a please go away button Please, I'll let you know when I'm interested in this again Please leave me alone There should be a pay Just auto-endorse all of my friends, just do it LinkedIn should totally have a paid option So that I can monitor the activity of my employees Not like, read their messages But when my employees start I should be able to see their activity level on LinkedIn So if I see unusual spikes Like, blah blah blah, updated the profile, sent a bunch of messages I'll be like Something's coming I feel like that would be Taken advantage of immediately Like, people would use it immediately And it would be terrible and torn apart very quickly I guarantee you so many owners would take advantage of it Hold on a second though Because there's a lot of LinkedIn stuff that is public Like, activity on it But not PMs Yeah, maybe not PMs But if I could just get a report of activity I bet you this could be done with a third party Probably could Because it's the kind of thing that I could comb through and find myself But if I just had it automatically generated for me That's very interesting So business idea for someone, give us 10% like normal But make this and then sell your bot to people And you can just have the bot crawl everything all the time So people can get instant reports when they sign up And that's what people will want Because they'll want to be able to see results immediately So you just have it permanently crawling all of LinkedIn And then report it Wow, that's like the evilest thing ever Because you know what's funny is I don't remember when it was But I think Edzel created a LinkedIn profile Like right around the time we formed Linus Media Group Or updated it or something It creeped me out that everyone who works here has updated LinkedIn profiles Because I didn't have one until I started thinking about leaving NCIX And so I project, right? I project my own mindset where I'm completely not interested in any kind of social network platform Even a useful one like LinkedIn unless I have an immediate need I didn't have one until a couple months ago And I knew I was going to get that email from you when I sent you an invite on it But the only reason why I got one was because I wanted someone to put my Coursera course certificate things Right That's the only place you can display them There's nothing wrong with having updated credentials on LinkedIn It's good And I want people who work here to build their portfolios and build their careers and stuff like that It's just one of those things where I just kind of like Are you leaving me? I just lay in bed at night Are you leaving me? Are they all going to bed? Where are they going? Please don't leave me Why is this happening? Speaking of why is this happening You know my take on the Steam Controller was pretty mixed at the beginning I was like really? They're doing this? Touchpads? Okay let's see how this goes And then my take on it when I tried it back at CES even though it was quite an early prototype was Okay well let's see where they go from here Valve has basically deleted it They're saying realistically we're looking at a release window in 2015 And that's pretty much all that they've said This was posted by Rafi on the forum Wow two this week and I don't think I've ever seen you before And I like you because you have an easy to pronounce name But basically my take on this I don't because he makes me feel like my forum is broken with his stupid avatar picture Oh yeah well Like mmmm Alright my take on this is what probably happened was the original concept of touchpads is stupid And then you saw what was happening with the prototypes over time How they got closer and closer and closer to a traditional controller Upon which time I think people basically went oh yeah that's pretty cool But the issue is that it's not really different So I think Valve is going through a bit of an identity crisis right now with the Steam controller Where they're going okay we wanted to do something like really innovative that changed the way people use controllers And then we ended up with something that's pretty samey And we're not getting into this because we just wanted to be a controller manufacturer Valve doesn't do stuff like that They're not getting into Steam OS because they want to make Steam machines They want to build an ecosystem Valve is so much smarter than wanting to make gaming peripherals So I think what's happened is they just don't know what it is anymore And if I think they're just saying 2015 but it's like Valve time So I think they're basically going okay if we can rejuvenate this project and make it truly different Then we'll then you know let's do that And if we can't I think we might see Steam controller just quietly go away Which I'll be 100% okay with because up till now I don't think there's a lot of room to really improve on the controller You see third party I mean everyone and their dog has had the opportunity to improve the Xbox 360 controller And we see like exoskeletons that go on it We've seen like you know rockers so that you just shift your hand to press certain buttons We've seen all kinds of stuff We've seen modded ones that have the switches replaced and the analog sticks replaced or joysticks I think they call them now Whatever I don't care if they're not analog anymore And no one's really been able to do it And now we're down to the point where 3D printers are becoming more affordable So even some individual could create a better controller if they wanted to I just don't think there's any room left to innovate And maybe I'm totally wrong but I think we're going to see completely different ways of interacting with our games like augmented reality and VR Before we see a better controller I think the controller is kind of an amusing ancient way of controlling games by the time my son is my age Like the old joystick two button style that's just gone It makes an interesting point because Nintendo we also have a patent for like what was it? Modular DS did you see that patent? No I didn't It was a DS but you could slide out all of the parts that interact with the DS and replace them So people would essentially be able to like make their own D-pad Oh no I did see that the Nintendo patent Yeah yeah yeah I remember that So it's interesting because controllers are getting like there's so many gamers now I think that's part of the thing is there's so many gamers across such a huge age gap from everywhere around the world That it's hard to make something for every single person in existence Right So I think it's getting to the point where it's just like yeah make your own or buy these modular things and swap them out Alright so Barnacles was defending his use of Bing on Twitter this week So I'm using Internet Explorer right now because I haven't bothered to sign into all my crap in a real browser So Bing is the default so I search for Leap Motion V2 So I get like a bunch of rubbish sponsored stuff A lot of them That has almost the whole page worth Nothing to do with anything and arguably my font size is a little bit large Like that's probably more like a normal font size But that is four sponsored results that aren't even related to the Leap Motion And then the first legitimate hit is from the developer blog But isn't the Leap Motion V2 blog post And finally it comes up with this Google Boom Top one Exactly what I'm looking for And I just this just felt related to The video is really playing There we go So this is really cool This just felt kind of related to the new ways that we're going to interact with our devices And what's amazing about this is this is using the original Leap Motion hardware They actually haven't changed the hardware This is just a new much lower latency much more accurate software Isn't that cool? It's so fast Look at that responsiveness It's crazy fast Love it So you know what's funny is they offered to send us a review sample like months ago No no I contacted them a year ago And then like months and months ago they were like yeah we'll send you a review sample And I was like well you know a lot of the hype has died down Do you have anything new coming that maybe we'll wait for instead? They're like yeah we have a software update coming I'm assuming this is it And so I saw this I reached out to them and they're like yeah we're out of review samples again I'm just like guys like seriously? We can help you We just need you to help yourself Like I just don't even know what to say at that point They're like yeah we can offer you a small discount And I'm just like really? So you have a review sample for me when you don't have anything interesting And then you I'm like yeah I want to do you a favor I want to time this to like talk about something new and exciting And it's like oh yeah sorry Next time that they offer you one just take it and then just wait until the next interesting thing comes out Just sit on it Just be like you probably would have just waited if we did something for you anyways So don't worry about it We'll get this video to you in about a couple months when you would have contacted us Alright so this is two things Number one is dogfighting is delayed Yeah Star Citizen You're disappointing us but there's still time for you to knock us off It's disappointing but I'm happy they didn't release it completely broken Yeah I get that I totally get it I would rather have delays Basically Chris Roberts wrote like this huge long thing It was like yeah look we want this out there as much as you do and I believe him But there's two of what we would classify as I think they call them blocker bugs Like just utterly game breaking bugs that we need to resolve There's some other critical stuff that we really really want to fix and then there's some other stuff that we want to fix But until we can get those really high priority fixes in there It's not coming sorry we missed the date It's coming really soon The fact that they waited until the last possible minute to tell us that it wasn't going to hit the date To me is you can interpret this one of two ways And I lean towards the second one so you can kind of go dick move guys You're telling us at the last minute we were all excited or number two could be It's probably because they might have thought they could still make it So maybe it's that close so I really hope it comes soon really excited Guys don't forget to join the Linus Tech Tips conglomerate star citizen organization We're falling behind Because of what the heck happened Yeah some random organization Imperium doesn't last time you talked to them that was like two days ago But no one knew who these guys were They know who they are they won the they won like a contest a while back and all this kind of stuff Yeah and then out of nowhere they got like five thousand something members in no time at all Yeah explore So no you guys need to rally with us 5,726 yeah let's see they have timestamps for stuff which is really interesting So yeah they're still updating We doubled in size again 300 new members that's on April 16th On May 2nd they got 732 members in total On May 25th they got 1,049 members in total May 25th to May 28th they got 4,000 plus members in total What even happened where did all these people come from So good for them good for them but Linus Tech Tips conglomerate still gonna be I mean really all of this is just jockeying for position that is ultimately going to be meaningless Once the race actually starts It's kind of like yeah you look at any I just want to know what happened NASCAR race formula race does being in front at the beginning of the race mean that you win No there's a whole lot more to it Yeah and having a huge amount of members isn't necessarily gonna make you win either That's true quality members I'm not worried about that the main thing is I'm just confused I don't know what the heck happened Reddit getting really big in passing us that's kind of that's not surprising Test squadron getting really big that's fine Maybe they'll do just as well in in star citizen as they didn't Eve and just disappear So that's also possible Alright so Nvidia shifts away from smartphones is posted by QWERTY Warrior Basically Jensen came out and said okay well we're shifting away from smartphones to other more profitable markets Nvidia chipsets save for Tegra 3 have had limited success in the world of smartphones Tegra 4 barely made it into a few devices and Tegra 4i hasn't had much luck as far as design wins go either But Nvidia is definitely interested in other markets such as gaming devices like shield for example Which is fantastic and doesn't get enough credit Cars for example I'd love to see Tegra hardware and something like a TV a couple of generations from now When that is gonna be what a console looks like a grid streaming device that just runs in your TV And you don't need to worry about an extra box Bring it on Yeah yeah Excited for that kind of stuff I mean as internet connections get better I mean the connection we have here and the connection you have at home I think is like you get what like five millisecond pings in games and people are like yeah he's like playing at valve Yeah or whatever like how do you have how do you have like land level ping I'm like I'm just chilling at valve HQ Guys it is coming low enough latency is coming so I'm really really excited about where we're heading there And I really don't see this as something that will have a major impact on Nvidia's Tegra development cycle It's just I think it's just them kind of basically going yeah that whole thing is stupid so we give up And with the way margins are being squeezed on phones the only way to make a profit on a phone is to be very vertically integrated Like someone like Apple where you're designing your own processor and your own phone and your own software You're profiting on people buying apps Samsung tried to do it and I think ultimately we're seeing the beginning of the end of the Samsung Android Empire Because they weren't able to turn their own app store into anything functional or useful And beyond that what's their value I mean they're already having a really hard time convincing people that a Galaxy S whatever Is significantly different from a Nexus 5 which is much cheaper and it's really just not Yeah I don't know man What else we got for today we're pretty much done we're going to finish the show early I guess that's what happens when we start on time There was a huge amount of topics though I think it's just a lot of them went fast Yeah There's stuff still in the unformatted which is really interesting Let's just do some straight up Q&A guys hit us Sure Atlinestech on Twitter hit us with some Q&A and we'll do some of that While they're hitting us up have you looked at the open source modular laptop thing? Yeah it looks like the stupidest thing ever right now Oh yeah Oh yeah Apple devices locked and held as ransom this is kind of brutal So there was a thing going around a while ago where your files were getting encrypted And then you had to send a ransom and they would unencrypt it Well this one this one's So hack into the device lock it and then so they actually are using the find my iPhone feature to remotely lock your device And then they are telling you that you can't have it back so it just will have a message on the screen Like that locked message that says if you want it back you have to pay 100 bucks or euros or whatever else to some hotmail address Absolutely brutal guys I guess that's all I really have to say about that that sucks I think it's going to be way too trackable though Yeah I don't see this being a problem for much longer Payments are flowing like they're going to find this guy Yeah oh also this is really cool if you guys haven't seen it already the solar roadways thing that's going on is pretty amazing You should check out the Indiegogo project's solar roadways They got super duper funded Yeah they got super funded so they should 21 days left I love it This video is actually Oh I don't know if this is even the one that I Is the tractor one? I think the tractor one's a different video Yeah where's the like fan made one? A fan made one? Solar freaking roadways there it is yeah I ignore the actual one this one's amazing Let me just put on some volume for you They're solar freaking roadways What do they want from me? Well they're solar freaking roadways Okay so actually this time what is it? Okay so it's like 7 minutes long but it's actually a pretty good watch you guys should definitely check it out But the main benefits are that you can They have LEDs built into them so you can rearrange the markings on them however you want They're really cool They're heated which means that clearing snow is no longer an issue as well as the flooding that sometimes occurs when snow melts They're solar so you're utilizing all that area to collect solar energy which is of course the cleanest energy that we can have You don't have to disrupt tidal pools you don't have to disrupt rivers and waterfalls Nope nope just sun hits the earth We'll basically become plants Leverage the sun it's all very good stuff There's a bunch of other really great stuff about it but it's incredibly cool One of my favorite things is you said you can change the LEDs on it So say if two people park in handicapped parking stalls and then they're full they can just create another one Right It can detect that there's actually a video of this it can detect that they're full and it can just grab a near parking spot and just be like bloop Now this one is handicapped because it can just show on the ground It can warn people about obstructions on the road so they've got pressure sensors in them so if something falls and like demolishes a road It'll be like whoa dog slow down and like text on the road Or if there's a deer like it'll know it'll feel the four hoof prints and it'll be like yo dog there's a deer up ahead Slow down slow down yourself So it's incredibly exciting They could probably have these communicating with those Google cars at some point in time so we can automatically figure all this stuff out and go around things Would love for this to be the future Really really super easy really really low cost power charging stations for electric cars Love it There's a bunch of stuff You had a Twitter blitz that happened Yeah, but there's one more thing I wanted to hit before the Twitter blitz so tech report Seagate buys San Force from LSI for 450 million so this has been complicated So LSI bought San Force and then like what was it Avago or whatever bought LSI and then now Avago is well by proxy I guess Selling San Force from LSI to Seagate This is an interesting move to me Yeah Where it feels like San Force it's kind of like Indolinks okay SSD controller makers come and go Yeah And popularity rises and falls Indolinks went from being a hot item with the barefoot controller to being acquired by OCZ to releasing barefoot 2 Which I think OCZ was hoping well not I think OCZ was hoping to leverage by selling the controllers and the technology to other SSD makers But then their new controller wasn't good enough and they just completely fell off the face of the earth And I shouldn't say not good enough The latest Indolinks stuff and not necessarily the controller hardware but the software the technology is not actually terrible It just isn't groundbreaking enough in a market that is full of a bunch of stuff that performs pretty much the same So I'm looking at this going just because San Force is a big deal yesterday and a big deal today doesn't mean that it matters at all tomorrow And SF 3700 series has been delayed multiple times now I mean we were first shown it like what Computex last year I think so yeah And it doesn't exist yet I just wonder if San Force is being shuffled around because they just got nothing Yeah I wouldn't be surprised I'm kind of surprised Seagate bought them Yeah well Seagate's gotten into SSDs I mean they've got their own branded SSDs now But are they really pushing them? Maybe this is their whole goal? Is now they'll maybe push them really hard? The thing about an SSD is the controller actually isn't a huge part of the bomb cost or really a huge selling point to me at this point I mean Samsung One of the reasons why I don't understand why they bought it Samsung went hero mode when they went okay like because flash isn't a big differentiating factor Because there's only a few makers of flash and no one else is going to get into that business without a massive investment that makes no sense So flash doesn't differentiate, controllers don't make much of a difference these days It's coming down to features like hardware encryption and all that stuff that's on Evo Data loss protection and it's coming down to software stuff like what Samsung did with Evo Where they basically went yeah we know our SSD is a commodity So we're going to build this cool software that lets you use your RAM to cache it And we're going to have this like great cloning software that allows you to clone onto a smaller drive Because that's what a lot of people will be doing and then have it overflow elsewhere So I don't really see the point of spending 450 million when they could have spent 450 million trying to come up with some ideas For how to deliver value adds on the SSD that they already have Unless they... and I like I just... Whatever I mean it's the first time I didn't understand something and it turns out to be a great idea Yeah I don't really get this one unless there's something new in the pipeline or unless they're planning something weird I'm not really sure So there you go alright Twitter Blitz time If it decides to allow us Yeah if it ever actually loads there we go Alright having a garage sale today I'm hungry I have food Okay yeah sure why not I think I have a 780 so stay tuned for that What what what why are you selling 780? What one? What what what what what? What 780? Just common app Uh direct to you too? Okay that's fine Why what's 780 are you upset about? I just want to make sure you're not taking like one of my benching ones Oh no Or just one of the reference ones in general Okay why are you all green? Uh we're a little green aren't we? I don't know what that means Oh like... Hue hue Oh I don't know The window? The window's open And the sunlight is bright and there's grass outside That's the best guess I have 4.1 gigahertz new Haswell okay You know what's funny? Is we actually made it all the way through the show without talking about Titan Z being available now And without talking about any of the new Haswell stuff which is kind of funny Titan Z is in my mind the least relevant thing to the viewers of our show ever Unless you're a Cuda developer it's totally irrelevant I wouldn't recommend it unless you're a Cuda developer Titan Z just straight up makes no sense for gamers Twice under the dock Yeah Ouch Do you have a tutorial on how to build a PC for first timers? Uh yes Many In fact we have the hands down best tutorials on YouTube for how to build a PC And more than one too so if you're like oh this part maybe wasn't super clear you can just watch another one And we have nice little timestamps for each individual part and you can jump around in the video And find exactly what you're having trouble installing I've actually heard I have a buddy that is Oh I clicked new ATV gross Not that one that's not a girl Oh go away go away go back That's Eli the computer guy even Okay I don't even know what you're doing Okay if you search for seriously there Uh this one's really good the 1500 gaming one is Really? PC build guide why don't we go with that Yeah it's all in how you optimize your keywords because now it's like all us So this one's really good the one with a million views Which is for some reason Video editing workstation one's pretty good This one's really good if you're doing like a basic machine the Kaveri build guide We have a water cooled one here's if you're building a small form factor so we cover a lot of tricks there We've also got another AMD value one that's mostly if you're building something a little bit lower end And then overkill if you're doing liquid cooling you're gonna want this one So I hope that addresses that And I guess we're gonna be having a mineral one coming Maybe Depends if we Yeah it depends Are you excited for this year's E3? Um I'm excited that I don't have to go I'm hoping I get to check out Ubisoft because I want to look into like Assassin's Creed and Far Cry 4 And whatever else they might be working on like What's it called? Not Driver, The Crew I'm excited for 2K because I want to see that new Civilization game which looks amazing I think it's called Beyond Earth I'm excited to check out Nintendo because they're doing that crazy like What is it that new the new Zelda franchise game? I can't remember what it's called Hyrule Hyrule Warriors Hyrule Basketball? Are they gonna are they gonna whore out Link the same way they have Mario? No no no it's like it's called Hyrule Warriors or something it looks really cool But no not basketball or golf or anything like that Yeah I got the eBay email as well Idea for t-shirt with the word wanger? No I don't think we need a t-shirt with the word wanger What are your opinions on Gamecube? That's actually really cool did you hear? That probably should have made it into the dark Yeah you can play the new the upcoming Super Smash Brothers with your Gamecube controller Using an adapter for the Wii U that is like really cool actually Yeah and like everyone is in love with that Have you played Watch Dogs? I have not played it I do have a copy I don't know if I would classify what I did as playing it You benchmarked it Yeah but I didn't really get to experience the game Hello what is the highest end GPU I can run with before bottle Okay go watch my fastest possible on bottlenecking because it doesn't really work that way Sup watching the stream from my MacBook Bro Bro Bro Game consoles ever equaling PCs for price to performance? Yeah they're pretty much there right now PS4 is very competitive price to performance wise with a low end PC Xbox One maybe not so much Yeah maybe not quite as much But a PS4 yeah Computex Maxwell releases? I don't know I have to leave but I'm waiting for one question that I have to answer What would you recommend? SLI? Nope single 780 Are you getting the Razer Blade 14 soon? Yes They finally confirmed we are getting one soon What drink do you get at Tim Horton's? Chocolate milk Really you go to Tim Horton's? Every time You go to Tim Horton's to get chocolate milk? I don't drink coffee Right but No if like if everyone is going to Tim Horton's And then I'm like I want to get like a meal or whatever I get chocolate milk with it because there's like nothing else there I don't want to get pop I like the lemon iced tea I didn't even know they had that but yeah I know I'd probably still get chocolate milk Chocolate milk is pretty much the best thing that ever happened to humanity Let's not debate that because that would be stupid Opinion on iOS 8 being confirmed? I think that it's not very unexpected It's another mobile offering this time Yeah it's going to be like the other one except slightly more different You probably could have confirmed iOS 8 on iOS 4 It's like it's going to come at some point Bye everyone Any idea how Valve will address the issue of Windows games not working on Linux? Well there's not a whole lot they can do it's up to the individual developers whether or not they make the game work on Linux There's technically stuff they could do Is home streaming the only option? Home streaming is a fantastic option If that's the only option who cares? That's a great option There's services like wine and stuff You have to go Which can make Windows games work on Linux I'm tired of you Valve could technically build something better if they wanted to Bye Bye Alright what do you think about the Titan Z? I think I already answered that one Since we can join multiple groups now people are just joining whatever and getting email invites for explore That's interesting I guess that's what's going on over there I got 99 problems but a G750JZ ain't one Dimitru asks why no 1080p for the LAN show archive? Great question We switched from streaming at 1080 to 720 back when we were having bandwidth cap issues with our ISP There is actually technically no reason why we couldn't stream at 1080 now and then the archive would be at 1080 Alright so I think let's call that pretty much it for the WAN show today Thank you guys very much for tuning in I thought this was a pretty good show I hope you guys agreed Thanks again to our sponsors Asus powered by the G750JZ All two of them There it is there's the other one with that matte black and that shiny logo and all that good stuff I'm going to tease it again we do have another really exciting project planned with Asus in the next little while It's funny because we didn't do anything with Asus for the first entire year that Linus Media Group existed And now we're like we've got like sponsoring the WAN show and we got this really cool upcoming project You guys are going to be pretty stoked on it trust me And big thanks to Modus for also sponsoring the WAN show today Don't miss Geek Stix facebook.com slash Modus for Canadian and US residents Go head over there make sure you're in the draws they do a new draw for a new sweet geek prize every day to celebrate geek pride day Peace out guys I'll be back in a moment Seriously? 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