 Right? Yeah. Good, yes. Yeah. Yeah, Wancho! Yeah! Woo! Awesome! Yeah, part three. Wancho part three. So we've got a bunch of great topics for you guys today. What are we starting out with? We're starting out with a broken Twitch page on your laptop. We're starting out with, FCC approves net neutrality rules and broadband is now a utility. And also Leonard Nimoy has passed away at 83. Intel is planning to drop silicon after 10 nanometers. So looking into some other novel approaches to making microprocessors more powerful and more efficient. And YouTube, one billion views, viewers, excuse me, more than one billion views. We're talking like just sigh on just one video. So more than one billion viewers, no profit. So we'll talk about that fair bit. So let's jump right into the intro and then there it is. Hooray! See, that usually is critical. Wow, that's awful. Can we fire whoever did this? Oh yeah, you're going to PAX, hey? Yeah. So that's gonna be pretty cool. Yeah, I'm actually pretty excited for that. Yeah, PAX East. This is your second year at PAX East? Yep. Sweet. I've heard of a few actually interesting videos that should be coming from there already, which is exciting. It's nice knowing that there will be anything at a show before I go to the show. Sometimes we don't. That's the scary thing. It's like, all right, we've got to get content from this. Sounds like nothing is being announced here. OK, cool. All right, that sounds like fun. Although sometimes you get really good videos that way as well, so I don't know. Apparently the intro has no audio for these guys. I don't know what the deal is with that. That was the same as last week. It's working for us. So that's why I didn't know that there's no sound in the intro. That's kind of weird. That is weird. Well, we'll figure that out. Yeah, I can hear it. And usually when I can't hear it, you guys can't hear it. And when I can, then you guys can too. So there's that. Yeah, oh, right, the sponsor shout outs for the intro. So ha ha. Well, of course, there's PAX East. So PAX East, we're going to be powered by HyperX down there. Wouldn't be the first time HyperX sponsored us to go to PAX East. Also, Massdrop and XSplit powering the show today. So why don't we jump right into our first topic here. The FCC approves net neutrality rules, reclassifies broadband as a utility, and then there are some other net neutrality updates and FCC rulings from the hearings. So Tom Wheeler, FCC chairman, says, the internet is simply too important to allow broadband providers to be the ones making the rules. The new rules largely resemble the open internet rules that Obama laid out three months ago. And allegedly, up until last week, there was language in the FCC proposal that could unintentionally allow internet service providers to charge for sending content to consumers. So they've gone ahead and patched up some of those little holes in what's going on. I think Google and a few other companies kind of jumped in there and were like, maybe change some things, because giant loopholes. There's some questioning here. As we talked about on the wine show before, actually, it's kind of weird that Tom Wheeler flipped as much as he did. He was fairly adamant before about this not really being a thing. And now he's like, rah, rah, this is definitely a thing, which is just weird. Weekly progress, which is, when has the FCC ever moved that fast? Yeah. Which hopefully, it's all genuine and awesome. And I would love to believe that it is. But it just makes me wary that there's something in there that no one's really seen yet that allows them to do something that we don't want them to do. Yeah, I mean, it's not like there aren't plenty of things the FCC has done in the past that have been somewhat questionable. I mean, the whole nipple gate thing was, I was reading one article that brought that up as, do we really want these guys in charge of regulating really much of anything based on that we were dealing with fallout from that years, years later from that legendary Super Bowl performance? Although not quite as legendary as left and right. Shark or that dress that's been making the rounds on the internet. I couldn't even believe how much every single feed that people have into me was exploding with asking me what color. I actually thought it was a joke. I thought someone was trolling me. So I looked it up. Do you looked it up? I had it sent to me. And I was like, I had it sent to me from my girlfriend. So I thought it was an actual question. And she was shopping for the dress. So I answered as if it was an actual question. And then minutes later, got bombarded by everyone else and was like, what the heck? And then I thought it was just an elaborate troll from her. And then realized eventually, no, this was definitely a giant internet thing. And was like, wow. The funny thing about it is that image is not any more exceptional than any other of the images out there where if you look at a white background, it's x color. And if you look at a dark background, then it's y color. It's actually, in my opinion, less exceptional than a lot of them. Yeah. Some of them are really mind screwy, awesome. That one is like, no, it was taken under odd light. Anyway, so Tom Wheeler wrote another quote from him. So no one, whether government or corporate, should control access to the open internet. There is no more a plan to regulate the internet than the First Amendment is a plan to regulate free speech. Some people call this a secret plan to regulate the internet. That's nonsense. That's a quote from him. And that makes me even more scared. Whenever anyone points out, oh, this is definitely not a secret plan, it's just like, wow. Well, the thing, though, is that that's been about the only somewhat valid sounding criticism that anti-net neutrality supporters have been able to throw at them. Oh, well, there's this document that is really big. And I wish I could tell you guys what's in it because it's really bad. And yeah, it's super bad. But whatever, I guess you could just go with the flow here. Which is so, so sketchy. Verizon is apparently salty as hell. And Verizon's trying to throw back as much as they can. But at this point, yeah. Changing a platform that has been so successful should be done, if at all, only after careful policy analysis, full transparency, and by the legislature, which is constitutionally charged with determining policy. I mean, a big part of the problem, though, is that American policymakers, government officials, are literally just signing letters that are written by ISPs. So it's like no point in them actually existing anymore. Yeah. All right, Nvidia's CEO and president on the GTX 970. And I promise this is the last time we're going to discuss the GTX 970 on this show. Oh, we never, right, we never said who posted the last thing. I got all thrown off by problems. So that was posted by Victoria's Secret. Did you post the link in the chat? I did, actually. Awesome. All right, so let's go ahead and fire up blogs.invidia.com. So Jensen has addressed it directly now. Oh, I don't even have an HDMI cable. Awesome. Is the capture card at least here? Probably not. Probably not. It is. Oh. It is. The capture card is here. Right, because we used the other one. The other one, yeah, the higher, the better, more better one. Yeah. Ow. Oh. You guys should see what he's doing right now. It's actually kind of impressive, especially after certain last night activities. After what? Certain last night activities. Right, yeah, that was fun. That was actually a lot of fun. That was the most fun that I've had in an empty, abandoned building. Yeah, I can probably agree with that. Very long time. Yeah, although it's not abandoned. OK, not abandoned. I guess if we're there, it's not abandoned. So there's that. All right, let's go ahead and see if my screen sharing is working. Wow, look at that. It just worked. Oh, goodness. Oh, did you know that your Norton requires registration? Oh, wow. You should get on that. And your computer is possibly under attack. For the next 10 minutes on the WAN show, Linus registering Norton internet security. Oh, no. Congratulations. Oh, wow. You made a great decision. Let's have a not. I'm done with this joke. All right. And it's over. So here's the letter. So basically, Jensen says, look, we made the 970 as good as we could make it. We think it's a great card. We think you think it's a great card. We screwed up. It won't happen again. We're sorry. So yeah. One interesting point that we talked about on the WAN show last week, and I had Luca P. message me about, was someone was saying that, oh, well, hold on a second, because that memory on the GTX 970, that last slower 500 megs, is actually not even as fast as system memory in many cases, if you have a quad channel configuration or high speed memory. And I kind of went, oh, yeah, good point. But what I didn't think about at the time was that your system memory's ability to work as graphics memory is still going to be limited by PCI Express. So you're still better off having that memory on the card, even if it's slower than your system memory is able to communicate with your CPU, because you're going to be limited by PCIe. So I was like, oh, yeah, that's right. I completely. What do you want, Nick? I have an HDMI cable. They're just trolling you at this point. Yeah. They are just trolling you, actually. I'm sorry, Nick. You're being trolled. No, I'm trying to be helpful. Not by me, though. No, no. We have an HDMI cable. We fixed it a while ago. Yeah. Like, if people are telling you to get us an HDMI cable, they're trolling you hard. Yeah. Bye, Nick. Thanks for trying to help, Nick. You're appreciated employee of the company. The last article was posted by Hitsu1 on the forum, and this one was posted by Cryon on the forum. So I'm going to go ahead and pull this up. There's any number of different sources on this. I mean, everybody is talking about this right now. It broke, what, about six or seven hours ago that Leonard Nimoy has passed away at 83. He announced his condition about a year ago, attributed it to years of smoking, even though he hasn't smoked in 30 years. But yeah, honestly, it was really fun. I read a variety of articles. You can't really get. So everyone has a bit of a different spin on his life and what it meant and what he accomplished. And so I found myself just reading for about 20 minutes, 30 minutes. And it's actually amazing how people can be crammed into this box. It's like, yeah, he was Spock when actually he did so much more than just play Spock. Whether it was stuff that was well regarded, like voice acting, or stuff that was universally pissed on, like his singing and spoken word. His singing was great. So it's just, I don't know. It's really interesting how it takes someone passing away to really have a look at what they meant as an artist and as a human being. And it seems like as much as he got sort of shoehorned into just being Spock forever, he didn't seem to mind it that much. When you look at the titles of the autobiographies, you look at someone left a really good quote that was from him that was, I'm not Spock, but if I was going to be anyone but myself, then that's who I would be. Something along those lines. So I thought that was really cool. Yeah. I mean, other than that. Honestly, I was never a huge Trekkie just because we didn't have a ton of TV when I was growing up. Did you even have a TV? We usually had a TV. That CRT that I still own, I had that TV when I was growing up. Did you have a service for it? Not always. So yeah, I didn't watch a ton of it. But one thing that really resonates for me with Leonard Nimoy is the narration of Civilization IV. Oh yeah, that was awesome. Thousands of hours of my life have been narrated by him. And because I liked the narration of that game so much, that's one of the few games of that style that I would never listen to music over top of. And I wouldn't watch Netflix at the same time or anything. I would actually just listen to the narration because I liked it. And it's part of the reason why I struggle to really go to Civ V as much, even though it's a better game in my opinion with all the expansions. I'll still go back and play Civ IV sometimes, just because I like the narration so much more. So yeah, I don't know. That kind of sucks a lot. I play a lot of Civ. So yeah. For our next topic, some of you, probably a large number of you, very likely noticed that we posted an Instagram picture last night of our new office space. So I've got a little bit of video that will serve as kind of a teaser for an upcoming Channel Superfund video. We're hoping to have this released hopefully some time next week, so let's go ahead and go over to Linus's screen here. But this is it. This is the new space. This is Berkel being Berkel, skateboarding around, and having fun being a construction worker for some reason. He does do things. I'm sure he's talking. I can't hear him. I'm going to mute that just in case it's like crazy loud or just being obscene or whatever else. There's Teren being Teren. These guys are quite the characters. Anyway, so I've had quite a number of people request a new office tour already. And as you can see, there is not a whole lot to tour. Some people in the chat are already like, what office? That's a warehouse. Yes, that is a warehouse. And that's basically all it does right now. Oh man, the sound in there, the acoustics in there. Super bad. Horrendous. Just for fun, Luke, you were the one with the stopwatch, right? So we had Berkel drop his skateboard from head height. And then Luke timed it for how long it took for the bang to dissipate. How long did it take? 7 and 1 half seconds. 7 and 1 half seconds. That is how much. So bad. Yeah. I got people asking where's the kitchen? Well, the kitchen will not be there. Well, technically. There'll be a little like kitchenette thing where there's like somewhere to warm up your hot pockets, but it's not going to be a house. So there isn't going to be a kitchen. We should try to get sponsored by Mountain Dew and Hot Pockets. That'd be so epic. And Doritos? Yeah. Just because. No, no, no, no, old school. Just Hot Pockets and Mountain Dew. Old school, just Hot Pockets and Mountain Dew? Yeah. So like we can't have any of the like new, amazing, exciting colors of Mountain Dew. Just classic crab juice. Crap pepperoni Hot Pockets. Very nice. Yeah. Got people asking if the server will still be in the bathroom? No. No, we are going to have. We should just have like a fake toilet in the server room. Just put a toilet in the server room. And like a bath. Just don't even like plumb them or hook them up. Just like have them there. We should plumb them. That should be the entire joke, because they should be plumbed and the water should be on at all times, just in case. Yeah. Yeah. Oh man. That would be pretty funny. But yeah. Got people asking about acoustic phone. Yes. We are looking into a lot of different options. I can tell you right now, some of the stuff that's being quoted is like not happening. Like if you guys paid any attention to the tip starter campaign, we raised somewhere between, what was it around 32 to $35,000? I think so. Something along those lines. I can check right now. So for one of the quotes that we got for acoustic treatment of the ceiling, $36,000. One of the quotes we got for acoustic treatment was $60,000. So, okay. So first of all, for those of you who were upset that we crowd funded helping with the new place, that should put some perspective on the amount of money that we raised and the amount of money that obviously remains for us to pay for ourselves. But yeah, we are not going with that $60,000 option. We've actually gotten a quote on a very similar treatment for way less, like a fraction of that. But it is- Not the same treatment, but yeah. Yeah, basically the same treatment actually. Is it? Yeah. Yeah, like one guy was just like fleecing us as far as I can tell or trying to. I think those other dudes are too. It's like what a bunch of like computer dudes. Okay, 60 grand. The bathroom movement change. Yeah, I think- Pretty sure that's BS. I think they're being butt heads too. Yeah. So we're gonna win some, we're gonna lose some. And at the end of the day, we're gonna have, it'll be an office space, kind of where I was standing in that video that you guys saw. And then other than that, it's gonna be all room for sets and for filming the stuff that we do now, as well as some of the other cool ideas that we have for the future. Yeah. So there you go. Are we gonna tease what we actually did at all? Oh, I think we should. Yeah. Should I find like a clip or something like that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like don't show too much, but- Maybe just like a drag. I watched all of it. It's awesome. Did you? All of it's awesome, yeah. I don't know how they're gonna make this short enough. This is not the drag at all. Is this gonna have to be like in separate parts? Like honestly- The lead up, the race. And the thing is like every one of the races, the whole thing is interesting. Right. All right. This is the end of one of them. Oh no, it's not. Oh! Okay, well that's a pretty good moment here. Let's go ahead. Let's capture that moment for the live viewers here. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Ah, I don't wanna like spoil it. All right, so what would you do if you were, you know, hanging out, having a pizza party with a bunch of your coworkers in an empty warehouse? Well, we came up with one idea. Yeah. All right. So there's gonna be a lot of moments like that. So stay tuned guys, cause this is gonna be one heck of a channel super fun video. I'm happy you didn't show the part right after that. Yeah, I know. That would have given away the outcome of that race. No, no, this is like nail, nail biting. Like we can't reveal anything to you guys. We're not gonna tell you who made the semis. We're not gonna tell you how it went down because it is like. Yeah, it was heat based. Like it came out, there was a loser's bracket and like someone came out of the loser's bracket because that's fun and cool way to do things. Yeah. And like, yeah, it was actually pretty intricate. Oh man. Different styles of races. I don't know if I can tease this enough. Like it's. Yeah. Do you think this will be better than connect four? And. Better than connect, I think so. Better than shot collars? I don't know if it'll be better than shot collars. Connect four had some great moments. It did. But this was epic the entire time. That was one thing that I liked about this. That's why I said, I don't know how you're supposed to cut it down. Cause like, seriously, I watched every single race over again and was like enthralled the entire time for every race. I don't know. You even participated in a lot of races. I know, that's what I'm saying. Like even watching it back was really cool. So I, yeah, I don't envy the editor. That's basically all I have to say because that's going to be difficult. We'll just do six parts. Every, every racing heat can be in some video. But like six sub parts. Yeah. Part one. Part one B. Yeah. Part one C. Okay. And then just end it like. There is a reason that we did Scrapyard Wars that way. By the way, Scrapyard Wars, the epic conclusion is coming out in, wow, about 31 hours. So hang on to your seats guys, because it is going to be, I can tell you this, no matter who you were rooting for and no matter what you expected, you will be surprised. Probably, yeah. By the outcome. Yeah. And then, so Scrapyard Wars is coming out. Right. So the reason that we numbered it one A, one B in the first place is that Scrapyard Wars is very much a long-term plan for us. In fact, we are setting up like a dedicated set in the new building where we're gonna have, is that me? Oops. Where we're gonna have tools and we're going to have like a workshop type environment where we're gonna be able to do much cooler Scrapyard War or like build lawn type stuff. We are really, really excited. We're gonna have fun. We even have more ideas, which I won't taste too much right now, but like, yeah, that style of content will definitely continue to be a thing. Yeah. I mean, we had people asking us, hey, are you guys gonna do more of these? Please do more of these. The fact that the first one came out titled one A, yeah, more of them were already coming. We knew we were onto something. We didn't know it was quite that good. Yeah. Like we didn't know it was gonna be that huge, but you guys can definitely expect some more, like really cool, more TV format style content from us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's gonna be a crazy year, hey? It's gonna be interesting. Yeah. It was kind of weird being in the office last night. Cause like- You mean the new one. Going from, yeah. Yeah. Cause I still very vividly remember freezing my ass off in the garage, wearing your winter coat while you worked upstairs, benchmarking Titan for a week. Like it's a little different now. I was legitimately upstairs because there wasn't enough room for me in the garage. Yeah, I wasn't blaming you at all. I'm just saying like this, that was an exact scene that I remember. You know what's funny is I would love to show Burkle. Burkle and Brandon were over at the warehouse with me today. And I would love to show Burkle the way that I had our white box set up. Cause like, honestly, honestly, like we were, they want every set like pointing into a corner. Like the original layout that they gave me was going to take up like the entire thing just for Wanshow, green screen, LTT and the workshop. And I was just like, that is four sets. We have that many sets now in a much smaller space. Let's re-Kajigger this. So, so I was like, we were kind of, we set aside places for some of the more permanent stuff. Like Wanshow, we're not going to move it. We want it to be very like cool looking in the background and like have a kind of a theme to it. The workshop obviously isn't going to move. Cause we should have people submit ideas for what the background could look like for Wanshow. We could definitely do that. We have someone helping us with the designs. And actually she showed us a concept that it's Esther, my wife's sister. NCIX, yeah. So she showed me some concepts for Wanshow, like with reclaimed, reclaimed wood for one side. And then like, I think some kind of metal or whatever. Yeah, like metal or something for the other one. And like some pretty cool ideas. Brandon and Burkle were figuring out how to light it. I had minor comments on that just based on framing. Cause a lot of the stuff that she showed was actually out of what would have been framing for the show. Sure. So we might be able to save money and then invest in better areas. And check with those guys about like exactly where it'll be. But anyway, so we kind of in between two sets, places where they wanted to put something was like this flat wall and like quite wide, like 10, 12 feet of flat wall. And I was like, okay, well, why don't we put every, all the permanent stuff where it goes. And then, well, any empty spaces, we'll kind of classify them as like A, B or C. Where A would be like prime real estate, like optimal like flagship content goes here. And B would be somewhere in between and C would be the worst. And at this flat wall, they're like, that's a C. I'm like, this is better than anything we have now. And they're just like, yeah, it's a C. Okay then. Well, fine. Yeah, I think he'd probably, yeah, have a little bit of an awakening. If he saw like the unboxing set in the garage, which was like my desk. Oh yeah. Like he had to like move and stop working whenever I had to film an unboxing, which was fine because at that time, we were doing this ghetto dual camera setup feeding into like a capture PC. And then we were doing like a multi-cam thing in Premiere in order to cut. So one person was doing B roll the entire time live. And then the other person was doing A roll the entire time live. I still think that's a cool concept. And I still think something like that, like could be really neat, but conventional camera operators would need to check their preconceptions at the door in order to make something like that work. Which probably, I personally prefer filming that way. That's why I don't mind filming stuff like super fun is it seems more natural for me. Right. The like kind of running gun style, like, oh, I gotta kind of get in there. It makes more sense to me. The like, we never learned to do it properly way. No, exactly. It's not right, but it like, it works. And like, I can make sure that I have the right thing on camera and I can make sure that it's, you'll be able to see it once it actually gets blown up and whatnot. But like, it's not right at all. That's fine. All right. Speaking of things that are not right at all. Actually, this is, I guess it seems fine. This was posted by clock low 8003 on the forum. And Pebble has the Kickstarter up for the, oh, for crying out loud. Is that, what is it doing? Something about the audio devices. Like, I think it's like the creative driver or something like that on this laptop. Makes it spaz out every time I switch to it. It gets confused about audio devices. I think I'm just gonna remove that driver. I usually do anyways, to be honest. Yeah, I can't see any reason why I need some creative control panel on my computer to make my life more difficult. Yeah. There it is. Okay. Yeah, so every time this Sound Blaster thing comes up. Pebble time, awesome smartwatch, no compromises. Has raised 11 million from 51,000 backers on Kickstarter since it went up. This went up, what, a couple days ago? Something like that. Yep. So it's gonna have a color e-paper display this time with the same battery life target. So they figure around seven days of battery life. So I'll probably get like four. Four to five, I'm a bit of a heavy user. It's got a more ergonomic curved design. They've redone the software. So old apps will still work, but the way you access the apps is a little bit different. And the way you access your notifications and messages is a little different. Everything is time-based, which is actually both like pretentious and also really cool and logical. Like it's like, oh yeah, okay. So you kind of go down to see the future, up to see the past, and then whatever's present is, is there right now. And oh, that actually is a really smart way to see what's coming next and what I just missed and all that kind of stuff. That actually feels more, you know how material design is supposed to be like kind of papers on your desk? Yep. The future past time-based thing actually kind of feels more natural than that. Absolutely. So three colors available exclusively on Kickstarter. I gotta imagine Kickstarter is like throwing a whack of cash at them versus the other way around to run this campaign because there is absolutely no reason for them to Kickstarter this other than just creating that splash and maybe helping hype Kickstarter. I mean, they say right in their campaign video compared to last time, yeah, it's pretty much done. All we need is your support. So all they need is orders. Yeah. They could have just launched it. Yeah. They're a pretty big company now. They said they've sold a hundred million pebbles. So even at an average sell price of let's say 149, so, or let's even say 140, that's still gonna be $140 million of revenue in the short couple of years that they've existed. They're doing all right over there. Yeah. So yeah, I'm gonna try and get a review unit. Have you ordered one? No, I didn't order one through the Kickstarter. I'm sort of annoyed with them because my last ordering experience was so terrible. And- With Pebble? Yeah, with Pebble. So I figured this time around, if they wanna see me a unit, I'll review it. If they don't, then forget it. Right. Because honestly, it doesn't look that revolutionary. Like the animations on screen look nicer. They've obviously beefed up the processor. It's a color screen, which is something that I've been asking for for a while. That's a big improvement over the previous ones to me. Yeah. I didn't see anything about the DPI of the screen. Like I don't know if it's actually gonna be higher resolution. Based on that they are promising backwards compatibility with all the existing apps, I would probably guess no, but some of the- Does this not have like a metal band option? Not sure. It's possible it'll end up with one. It definitely has replaceable bands. Yeah. So actually, that's funny. You can see the thing that we're- Yeah, you can see that this, my screen sharing is not working again, which is awesome. So let's go ahead- Hello! Yeah, it's just a black screen. There we go. There you go. You can see how easy it is to change it over. It looks like they've changed their charging mechanism yet again. Something that was a real frustration for me with the Pebble Steel. And I understand that they improved it. I just wish they would kind of do it right in the first place at some point here, because it means that I'm getting a new set of charging cables every single time I upgrade my Pebble. Yeah. I don't know. I guess that's all I really have to say about it. I still don't think I'm fully ready for a smartwatch. Really? I'm still waiting for some more revisions, I think. Right. I really like it. I've gotten very accustomed to it. I think they're getting close, but I'm still waiting for a little bit more. GWatch R is my daily driver. Android Wear definitely still has some quirks, but I do really like it. One bad news about the new Pebble time, well, just Pebble in general. This was posted by, actually the last one was posted by, oh, I already said that. This one was posted by Rafi on the forum. Rafi Rafi. But Microsoft was in talks with Pebble. One of the things that I actually, I personally complained about when I was using Windows Phone for my last attempt to switch to it with the HTC One M8 Windows Phone Edition. One of the things that I call that as specifically a big problem for me was the terrible Pebble support. It could do some things, but basic stuff, incoming calls was not working. And so we've got a little bit more insight into what happened there. There's a good article on WindowsCentral.com. Did you post this in the chat already? All right, let's go ahead and pull this up. Oh. Okay, this is not the right thing. That's frustrating. We have like. We've already fixed that. I worked, we worked on it today. Oh, okay. We fixed, it won't be like this in future docs. Ah, okay. All right, so there's, here's the article on WindowsCentral.com. Pebble, Microsoft, and what could have been with Windows Phone. So Microsoft was in talks with Pebble. Pebble basically said, well, if you guys completely make the app yourselves, then okay. And then Pebble's CEO stepped in. When the app was done, so it had been in development for months. Basically done. It didn't have the store integration yet. No store integration, but they had a plan to integrate Cortana, which would have been super cool. Pebble Time has a microphone now. So having Cortana support on the wristwatch would have been definitely an improvement over the third party support that Apple and Google are giving to someone like Pebble, especially given that they each have their own smartwatch platforms now. Like to me, from a business standpoint, I would be looking at the partner that is aligning with me more closely versus just sort of personal distaste for Microsoft and the mobile OS. Have we mentioned that he, yeah, you said he vetoed against it. Allegedly the reason. Yeah, allegedly the reason. So who knows? I don't wanna put too much on him. But it is a little frustrating that allegedly the reason is that he has a personal distaste for Microsoft and their mobile OS. And it's like, okay, well, you're not helping things at all. Yeah, it's not like it can get better. I mean, the biggest complaint that I had about Windows Phone, and a lot of people were upset that I gave it such a negative review. And the negative review had nothing to do with how good of a baseline operating system it is, or how Windows Live tiles are very beautiful and all these things. It was because as a user trying to do things in my day, it's not useful because the third party app support is terrible. And I cited specific examples. People are like, well, I don't have a DropCam. I don't care if you have a DropCam. The point is when I go to the store and I pick something up off a shelf, I would like for it to work without me changing my phone. I'm gonna pick a phone platform that I expect to get some kind of support. But with guys like Pebble, specifically Stonewalling Microsoft, how is that ever gonna change? So I feel for the Windows Phone users out there. And actually, I feel for Windows Phone users some more because there was another big blow. Here it is, yeah. Got it, let's go. You wanna post this one in the chat? So this was posted by Rude and the article here is from winbeta.org. Please work. Look at that, it's like working all of a sudden. So after Google partnership, Softcard will be shutting down their Android app as well as their Windows Phone app. So Windows Phone already had a contactless pay system and Google has basically absorbed Softcard acquiring patents and technologies and apparently the right to use them at all. So there's no particular date, but there is an official statement that says it will be shutting down. All wallets will be terminated at some termination date which will be provided soon, apparently. Yeah. Brutal, Windows Phone just got double slapped. Yep. Not good. And like these are all, the problem is that both of these issues are the main issue with the phone. They need more app support and they just got slammed twice. And it needs to be just generally more useful. Yeah. Speaking of being generally more useful, the HTC One M9 will hopefully be generally more useful than the One M8. Yay, takeaways. This was posted by Kuzminz on the forum and actually it's a pretty good post. It's got some leaked, what look like official HTC videos. So the- Every time, man. I'm gonna, yeah, I know, right? HTC leaks every time. Yeah, but who doesn't? I mean, there were asked six leaks this week. I know, but didn't they like fire two people last time or something? If I recall correctly, yes. Some kid posted them online and then both of his parents got fired or something. Something along those lines. I think that's what supposedly happened. Yeah. So here, I'm gonna go ahead, I'll- Yay. Hooray. I wonder if there's a quicker way to do this. While you're doing that, some people in the chat have figured out what I've done with my shirts and some people are trying to, they don't really get it, but it's black and blue. Get it? Get it? Oh, wait, is it golden white? I don't, do you know? It's black and blue or golden white. Which one is it? What are you wearing? Can you tell what color it is? Yeah, I can tell. Jeez. I don't know. I gotta ask the whole internet. Cause like, I don't, you know, I don't know. Under a different light, maybe it's different. Maybe the colors change based on the lighting or the background. Who knows, right? Yeah. We should ask the whole internet, see what they think. Maybe post it on Facebook. I just, you know, the funny thing about, you know, internet meme crap is that I know that if, you know, as soon as stuff like this hits, if we put our entire team in motion making some ridiculous video, we could get a ton of views, but I just, I feel like, I feel like- It's a little dirty. I feel like I'd like to believe I'm above that. Like back when, I think the first time I vetoed someone internally wanting to do like some meme stupid video was Harlem Shake. And I was just like- Yeah, we did it. It never made, it never saw the light of day. No, we filmed it, but it never- We filmed like sort of a similar thing. But I was just like, no. And you know, even, you know what? I have a lot of respect for Freddie Wong. A lot of respect for Freddie Wong, but making a video like every time about how stupid the thing is, is still doing it. Yeah. You're jumping on the exact same hype train. You're just jumping on the other side. It is the same bandwagon. And so I saw him do one recently that was kind of like that. And the reason that I thought of this was because I remember back when they did Harlem Shake, he, they did a thing where someone walked in and shot the person that was doing it or something like that. Right. Yeah, so I was like, so you're doing this more than once. If you do it once where you're like, yes, we are above this. We're not going to acknowledge this, it's stupid. Then you're fine. We should shoot those people. Yeah. But we should go back and find like every hardcore major meme in the last five years and do one video, destroying all of them. And then just being like, all right, it's out of our system. We'll never do it again. Or if we are going to start hopping on those bandwagons, then we should do it properly and we should have like a channel for it. Right. Like if we're just going to have a channel that's just like, let's make really stupid videos. Have like a, get like a crazy announcer voice and do it like a movie trailer. You're like, in a world where blue is white and black is gold. I don't remember how it's even supposed to go, but I think the blue is gold, but regardless. How do you tell what people are wearing? How do you color coordinate when there is no such thing? So some of you probably noticed I was playing that 1M9. Maybe that's what Asus was doing with their golden motherboards. They thought it was blue. They didn't even know. They didn't mean to screw that up. It's supposed to be blue. Just like all their old ones. It was us that was seeing the motherboard improperly. It's a blue motherboard. Are people egging you on in Twitch chat? I'm not even looking at Twitch chat. They probably hate me right now. Do it Luke. I think they're behind a little bit. Yeah. All right. 1M9, the chin bar is still present. It now has a two-tone color scheme. The videos showcase some new features. It's gonna come with sense seven. It has some photo editing stuff. It has custom themes, just like, okay. One thing that's kind of neat is it has some location based awareness. So it'll show you different icons and food recommendations depending on the location. I mean, there are aftermarket launchers like AV8 that already do that. It includes an ultra pixel front camera now for better low light. Apparently a 20 megapixel rear camera. They've abandoned ultra pixels there and they're just going for, yay, back to the megapixel race. They held out for two years. That's pretty good. It's blah, blah, blah, improved boom sound. Now with Dolby surround and is set to officially unveil at the M9 March 1st press conference. I have not been invited nor have I been offered a review unit. So I'm not sure if we're doing a review, but what we'll definitely be doing a review of. A lot of people did unboxings of these. I thought it was kind of amusing, but we don't really do unboxings on LTT yet anymore anyway. So I thought I would do it on the LAN show. So it says start here for those of you who haven't seen it. And this is pretty cute. So it comes with one of those rebrandable Kingston data traveler USB drives that presumably has some press. Oh, hey, a four gig. Here you go. Cool. Actually useful. So it has- Is it USB 2? Yeah. Presumably like a press deck on it or something. And then this is cute. Welcome to the new Moto E press conference. Today we're doing something different. You will probably have enough events and press conferences to sit through next week. I won't, but I'm sure important people do. So we're bringing the launch directly to you. Experience the new Moto E the way it's supposed to. Start with your badge. Oh, so there isn't a conference. Oh, wow. So this is the conference. Yeah, so they got the little velvet rope and then you got something. Yeah, here we go. What? There's your seat. And then there's the presenter with the phone and some like, you know, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, some like features and stuff. And then you open this up. Oops. Do I do have to rip it? No, not at all. Oh. That sucks. Wow. And inside is the Moto E. So this is the new second gen Moto E 149. Specs look pretty good actually. It's got a quad core, snapdragon, whoopie dup, can't remember. 400 sounds right. I'm gonna click this thing and it's hopefully gonna take me to the right place. Yeah, Snapdragon 410. It's got a gig of RAM. It's got a 960 by 540 display, 2390 mAh battery. It comes with Android 5.0 Lollipop and supports LTE now. So it's still kind of like, it's um, it's just on the sort of thick side of kind of feeling a little bit bulky also. So the fact that the, actually I don't even think it's thicker than my Droid Turbo. Let me have a look. Yeah. Oh yeah it is. Not by much, but. But it is thicker and it's smaller so it does make it feel a little bit boxier. But the fact that the materials are less premium I think contributes more to the weird feeling. Although it fits nicely in the hand. So I'll say that about it. 4.5 inch screen if I haven't said that already. So guys, I will switch to it now. I've been putting it off because, and I'm sure Motorola won't mind this too much, but because I like my other phone so much that it's hard for me to switch to other ones these days. I just hate switching phones and it's something I have to do every time I do a review. But I really like the Droid Turbo and I really don't like not using it. So, um, yeah. Forgive me Motorola. I will start my review, I will work on it, and then I will review your, your inexpensive cell phone. And then I will switch back to the other one. I like it better. Review your inexpensive cell phone and then switch back to your expensive cell phone. Yep. That's funny. Um, alright. Lenovo CTO. Hey look around. We're not the only ones with crapware infections. This is supposed to buy opcode on the forum. Lenovo, but as of two days later Lenovo promises cleaner, safer PCs. So if you guys haven't been keeping up, I'm gonna pull up the arse article here. Hopefully. Yep, there it is. If you guys haven't been keeping up, there was some, uh, adware, um, issues with select Lenovo PCs that were shipped in about Q4 last year. Basically, it allowed, um, it allowed a, it allowed your access to secure websites to not be secure at all. Yeah. So this, this adware app could basically see completely unencrypted information that you were sending to HTTPS secured websites, um, because it just had this backdoor nonsense that holy crap, how did this not get caught? Yeah. Um, so, yeah. I mean, there's not- Not great at all. Is there a whole lot for us to really say about this other than that? No, there's some cool things that Lenovo is hopefully doing. They said they're going to do, so hopefully they actually follow through. But they're planning on, and like maybe this won't be super helpful for everyone, but it will be super helpful for some people. Um, they're planning on listing all included software on the outside of the box, so you'll know everything that's coming with it, which is not really a thing when you buy laptops. Yep. So that is actually a nice change. Um, part of the problem that might suck with that is places like Best Buy, if you're buying it from there, um, aren't gonna list that. Yeah, it's not like you see the box. You're not gonna see the box until it's at the till, and I don't know if this is a requirement for online retailers to actually list everything. So they might just not list it, because I don't think it's necessarily up to Lenovo what gets listed by the online retailers. Um, so I don't know how much that'll actually change. Um, hopefully it does change things. With that said, they've also committed to install a less bloat on their machines. Less overall, which is great. They're gonna give people a six month subscription of McAfee. To anyone who was affected by the, uh, by the Superfish software. It's like, thank you. Or you could download Flash. Let me promptly not install that. But then get a free trial anyways. But everyone unchecks that box, so what do you think is gonna happen? I don't know. Just say it. Um, so this was posted by Command Man 7 on the forum. Um, gonna pull it. Oh, the last one was posted by Opcode. Did we see that? I don't remember. Okay. Uh, so this is also an Ars Technica post here. Intel forges ahead to 10 nanometer. Will move away from silicon at 7 nanometers. This is super exciting. Yeah, so they're trying to keep up with Moore's Law. I mean, it is. He did work for Intel. So it's like kind of, you know, Intel, you know, kind of started this thing. So it's kind of up to them to keep it going. Um, so they're looking at new materials. They're looking at 3D packaging. So potentially stacking dies on top of each other, like we've seen happen with NanFlash quite recently. Um, I'm not really sure what else there really is for us to say, you know, about this. It's exciting, though, because a lot of people have been talking about hitting the wall for a really long time. So they're doing what we have been saying for a long time, which is change your game up. And the thing is that people that are not Intel have been saying, oh, you know, we're reaching this is going to be this is a hard wall where we're coming up against a wall. Intel is saying, no, this is just a silicon wall. We'll find a new wall. We'll change the game up. We'll start stacking things. We'll start kind of stacking things to 2.5D or whatever. And we'll change materials or we'll do something else. Very cool. So they're trying all kinds of different stuff. They're looking into indium gallium arsenide as a replacement, but they're trying all kinds of other stuff. Graphene, gallium nitride, carbon nanotubes. I mean, that's a material that everyone in their dog was talking about. Carbon nanotubes like five years ago. And like what has become of it? We're still talking about it. I know we're still talking about the problem is creating. Well, not a ton of it's being used for necessarily this yet, I guess. But the problem is creating large structures with it is not it's very, very difficult. Yep. So I'm excited to see all that talk about all the potential that carbon nanotubes have. I'm excited to see that actually turn into something that I can own and hold. That's a big problem right now. So their planned indium gallium arsenide transistor is 22 nanometers in length, which might not sound that impressive. But, you know, it's going to take... Remember, they've had all this time to work on silicon. Yeah, they need more like research and development time, essentially, so they can get used to working with it and whatnot. Then they can improve upon it from there. So indium gallium arsenide's ability to conduct electrons is about five times better than silicon. The material is already widely used in fiber optic applications and in radar systems. They're also looking into not only 3D packaging, but also 2.5D packaging, where separate dyes are placed side by side on an interposer. All kinds of new and exciting stuff. This is super cool. I hope that we see performance gets... I have to... Okay, on some level, I have to believe that Intel still does want to improve single-threaded performance. So if we had a new material that somehow allowed much greater clock speeds, they would give it to us. So I'm just going to kind of throw that out there. Yeah, silicon's been a big issue for that for a long time. So I guess we'll see. It's not like it's just Intel talking about it. Nvidia's talking about how basically we're optimizing for heat output and power consumption. Performance is improving, and we're going to do that too. But we're trying to go... I think part of the problem is they've had to backtrack so much. For so long, it was megahertz race and CUDA core race and just the race to these ginormous hot power-consuming chips. And it's taking a while to dial things back to more sane levels. Because I can tell you, in an office like here where we're running more than one computer, more than a couple hours a day, it definitely helps to have more power-efficient machines, even if that's not exciting on a benchmark score. And even if you might necessarily not be paying for your power... Oh man, so we made a blue and black HTC M9 very poorly, but they made it. Wow. Well, it's a GIF. Golden white. Oh, it's a GIF. Yeah, it changes. Oh... Wow. So anyway, now seems like a good opportunity to thank our sponsors! So let's start with... B- Hold on. I'm sure I want to start with something. Let's start with XSplit. Yeah, we're big fans of XSplit around here, so... It's funny, I had some people say on our last XSplit spot, so hold on a second. What's the difference between us going to XSplit.com and downloading the free broadcasting software, versus going to XSplit.com slash Linus and downloading the free broadcasting software? Nothing. It's still free. Go to the slash Linus one, though. Yeah. You want to use the Linus URL. This is the URL you're looking for. Exactly, thank you. So basically, for those of you who aren't aware of what XSplit is, it's what powers our show. It allows us to do things like, oh wow, look at this, wow, whoa, we changed our lower third, holy crap, there was a transition. It allows us to manually select our bitrate, change up what servers we're broadcasting to, change up what audio source we're pulling in from, because the default on the computer was a freaking webcam today, whose entire Twitch chat exploded, bad audio. Well, that was user error. I apologize to anyone from XSplit who's watching this right now for the bad quality of the beginning of this stream. It had nothing to do with you guys. I had the wrong microphone selected. So we should talk a little bit about the capabilities. So they powered countless live streams and recordings around the world. They've got a very powerful, very robust piece of software. I don't think we've had XSplit outright crash on us in well over a year. It's been extremely stable for a very long time, and we absolutely love it. We both use it whenever we game stream, and we both use it whenever we Wanshow, because we do that together, so that would be both of us using it. If you're into game streaming, by the way, GameCaster allows you to change some of your stuff through an on-screen display, rather than relying on tabbing out of the game. Also, the new XSplit V2, so their latest revision, has much better game detection than they had previously, to the point where instead of manually selecting a game and telling it to cast it, you've found that it's been able to stream games that aren't even on their list, right? Yeah, I have games that are early beta, not released. I got a game code from the developers' games, and it's auto-detecting those properly, which I understand how it's doing that, but it's nice, because you don't have to have all these crazy scenes set up and stuff. You just have one, and you just move your webcam to a non-annoying place for the game, and then you're done. Yeah, I also like how flexible it is. I'm even able to stream... There's some pretty broken stuff about streaming X-Wing. I don't know if you know this, but I'm on a 1440p display, and the way that X-Spling... X-Spling? X-Spling. X-Spling! The way X-Wing... Flying like a G-thing! Launches, is like, if this is your screen, it does a Faco full-screen thing, where the game is actually running here, but it's full-screen, so I use X-Split to capture that screen region, and then it captures it fine. But it has a lot of flexibility. That's great. Speaking of a lot of flexibility, Luke will be heading to PAX East. What? So we're sponsored by HyperX and Phantom Glass, and I guess I should probably actually have the thing up there. So, is that next weekend? Yep. Holy crap! You don't know that? When do you leave? Uh, Thursday. Wow! Yep. I didn't think about that until today. Wow. Okay, so those two videos... Yep. Okay, you need to film those early in the week, and then we need to do part one of Hard Pipe before you go. Whoa. Yeah. Alright! Next week just got harder. Oh, I guess I just spoiled something. Get it? This Hard Pipe? Yes, thank you. Harder? I just spoiled something. We are going to be doing a Hard Pipe tubing, water-cooled build log, so this will be similar to mineral oil. It's going to be the first time for both of us. Yep. At least that's what we're telling each other. It's our first time. It's our first time. It's a lot. It's harder. Things get harder. So we are going to be doing that. We're probably going to be doing it in multiple parts, because neither of us have done it before. There's going to be a fair bit of trial and error. Yep. It's going to be an adventure. We're just kind of hoping to have some fun with it and take you guys along for the ride. Hopefully Lee Harrington doesn't just rip us apart, because it's terrible. Oh, I'm sure he will. Because we're going to make every mistake. I guarantee you, I guarantee you, Darth Beavis, Richard Soros, is going to have Facebook messages in my inbox, like half a dozen of them for every video, like, yo, dawg. That was terrible, man. I told you, man. I'm going to coach you on how to do this stuff. I was just going to say it, and he's going to be like, I could have helped you. No, no, he actually straight up offered. I just want it to be a voyage of discovery, so you and I are just going to go for gold. All right. We're going to study his videos. Or no? No. Oh. Yeah, no, we're just going to do our best, and then on camera, if we can't figure out, we'll resort to... Do we have a lot of extra tubing? Looking up, yeah, we do. Okay, cool. Yeah, Primochill sent us a bunch of stuff. So, guys, check out our Paxies coverage next weekend. It's powered by HyperX. As usual, our call out for HyperX is going to be to check out their YouTube channel. So that's youtube.com slash HyperX. It's actually youtube.com slash Kingston HyperX if you want to get to it a little bit more reliably, but they dropped the Kingston out of the branding, so you know how YouTube channels have an actual straight URL, and then they have a vanity URL? So usually, youtube.com slash HyperX works, but I've had problems with it sometimes. Really? Yeah, I've had... Like, when I was linking people to subscribe it in annotations, it wouldn't work. Weird. So when you're doing the annotations, make sure you do slash Kingston HyperX. Okay. Or it might not work. Yeah, because I always call out slash HyperX, because it's always worked for me. Yeah, so it's just one of those quirky things about, you know, good old YouTube, the who we love so much. All right, so our last sponsor today is Mastroff. So we have Drupps slash Wanshow, and you and I each get to do a live unboxing today. Okay. I didn't know this was coming. You want to go first? Sure. While I talk about what Mastroff is? Sure. So Mastroff is basically, they're kind of like a deal curator, so they work with the community to find the deals that the community wants. They then work with the manufacturers and distributors to get the best possible pricing, and then the more people commit to buy, the lower the price goes. I actually, Mastroff, I tweeted this earlier this week. They're my least favorite sponsor, because they sponsor us, and then they take my money right back. Oh. Yeah, I bought a Zoom audio recorder on Mastroff the other night. It's like, well, there goes $230, but I saved like $100. Yeah. And we've needed one of those realistically for like two years, so it's like fine. Stop blueprints. Stop using brandons. Of like some pretty cool stuff that you can use in posters. So they've got lots of keyboards and lots of just random stuff, and that's what we have today. We have a couple of sort of random things to show you. So what is this? This is a monoprice speaker. A monoprice speaker. Yeah, in like the craziest packaging. You got this, bro. There we go. It's, it like comes apart. Yeah, anyways. I'm going to start opening the ostrich pillow. It looks like a little spaceship. So it's like this, but it like looks like a spaceship capsule. I don't know. I like that. This thing is ridiculous. Why can you open? Whoa. What does it do? Oh, that's cool. And then you can close it. So you can be like, do you want to drop the base? No, I want to turn it up. Turn it up. Yeah, I get it. It doesn't make it good. I have a feeling. I have a feeling mine is going to be just as fun as yours. It has a little attached cable in the bottom so you can plug it into your phone. This has reversible colors. And this one is midnight gray. This is the ostrich pillow. Oh, that's pretty cool. So basically it's for travelers. Okay. It's by Studio Banana Things. So I already like the name of their company. And share your napping images and dreams. It doesn't really come with instructions. 95% rayon, 5% elastomer. There's like a label on it that under penalty of law, not to be removed except by the customer. So I guess I can take that off. And then basically it's got like a drawstring here. So you can tighten it up. And then, yeah. In a nice way. And then you put it on your head. Over your eyes. And then, don't do that. Ow. That just snapped myself in the head. And then basically the idea is, this is a pillow. So you just lay on the side of the bus or like your neighbor on the airplane. That's actually pretty cool. That's actually pretty decent. Because there's quite a few times where I've tried to use like my bag. And it's just not great because there'll be a book or a laptop. And then there's always like that little bit of light. That is just super annoying. I wonder if you could turn it around and lay on it backwards. Ow. I got my earphone in. So that was a terrible thing that just happened. But that's not too shabby. I kind of wish it wasn't full of those little styrene balls. Because I find those make me really, really warm. But like this concept is very, very cool. Some people might like the warm. I know. So that's a very much of your mileage may vary thing right there. But it's reversible. That's cool. So there you go. Mass drop. They have things. So you can rock out at a beach party with your portable turn it up speaker. I'm not sure if this is beach party grade. You can rock out at your small beach party with two people. Your miniature beach, your mouse beach party. And then when you're tired and going home because you're old like Linus, you can sleep on the bus. Done. Mass drop provides everything. Oh, check this out. What? OK, it's a done deal. The order has been placed, our phase change integrated case is arriving sometime next week. The amount of people that have been asking for this on the forum for like a year. The amount of people that have been asking me to cover phase change in some meaningful way since the very beginning of Linus Tech Tips is like crazy. So for those of you who don't know, phase change cooling has been around for pretty much as long as computer enthusiasts have known that running your CPU at lower temperatures makes it overclock higher. And what it pretty much amounts to is an air conditioner has a hot side and a cold side. So it's got a condenser and an evaporator. And if you take the evaporator and instead, excuse me, instead of having like a gigantic thin array and then a big old fan on it that blows cool air into the room while the condenser blows hot air to the outside, you have the condenser just blow hot air into your room, which hopefully is air conditioned. And then you have the evaporator just be a little thing that sits directly on your CPU. So we're talking like negative 10 negative 20. Some multi stage units can even do much, much lower temperatures than that CPU temps. So we just worked with Little Devil. I think they go by LD cooling. So we just worked with LD cooling. They weren't able to like sample as a unit or anything, but they were able to give us a significant discount. So we can use. Can I help you? Oh, thank you. We can use their Lee and Lee case with an integrated phase change cooler in the basement. All white for our white out. Don't know. I didn't know it's for the white out bill guide. All white. So we're going to have that's a Bronco, a limited edition motherboard, the Hall of Fame 980 card. We're going to have a sub zero CPU with like white sleeving on that. Yeah. Oh, this thing's going to be sick. That's going to be this will be the fastest machine. We've ever built. Well, maybe not quite because we're only putting we're only putting one graphics card in it. But like we could just put more graphics cards in it. This will be the fastest, the fastest, the fastest will be able to CPU things up ever. So I'm excited. Three machine, the best dirt three machine. Yeah, exactly. Yes. Apple bought Camel audio. This is posted by Pras to Park original article here is from Mac rumors. Can I help you? Here that eyebrow. There you go. I thought I got what the twitch chat was yelling at me about, but apparently it was on your eyebrows. So there you go. So they make music plugins and effects. Do you want to go ahead and post this? Are you already on it? Sure. Blah, blah, blah. There's some speculation that they're planning to use their technology to make garage band better. There's some speculation that it just has, you know, more to do with Apple just getting deeper and deeper into audio. So through the acquisition of beats. So maybe they're planning to like relaunch beats is music streaming service with some kind of technology here or something. So a lot of it's just assumptions at this point in time. They acquired the company, what they're going to use them for. We don't really know. We have a quote actually on that. Apple buys smaller technology companies from time to time and we generally do not discuss our purpose or plans. Exactly. Well, OK, then. Thanks, Apple. Thanks. Yeah. I think any of those guesses are pretty good. Mercedes chief laughs at Apple's rumored self-driving electric car. This is posted by Victoria's Secret on the forum. So our original article here is from motoring.com.au. And basically the statement was something along the lines of, you know, if Mercedes announced that they were building a phone, would Apple be shaking in their boots? No. And for that reason, we are also not concerned about Apple trying to become an automaker. Apple is not accustomed to the low margins in the automaking automotive space. Blipity, blupity, blupity. What I kind of have to say about that is don't get caught with your pants down. I was just going to say that's the wrong company to like spit at when they're trying to do something. It's just like, I don't know. That's silly. Also, they're electronic cars. It's a very different space. Yeah, it's a it's a it's a budding brand new space, not an established, you know, a hundred year old business the way that internal combustion engine cars are. And like, yeah, they've been making electric cars for a long time. But like the like people actually buying hordes of them is a very new thing. Yeah. No, no. The technology is not that new, just like the internal combustion engine wasn't new when someone put it in a car. But the it's it's happening now. Yeah. The business is changing very, very rapidly. It's in its infancy right now. So I don't know. Just reading this, I was like, dude, yeah, no, I don't know. Like maybe Mercedes doesn't have to worry because Mercedes will probably still sell cars. But like if Apple fully does get into that, I'm like there is interesting statements in here where we don't actually know what the goal is of Apple getting into cars. They might just be doing it to understand more. Yes, people are right about that. Who knows? We don't actually have official statement from them. But I would not be surprised at all if they were trying to make a car. And I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was awesome. So so here's here's kind of a funny thing. Blah, blah, blah. Cars. This is from the article. Cars cost a lot to develop and Apple runs at a 25 percent return on investment, while an exceptional ROI for a car company would be 10 percent. So considering that income imbalance, I'm going to just guess Zetche was clearly bemused by the concept of Apple becoming a car manufacturer. Right. So can I point you at Apple owning? What was it? Something like 80 plus percent of all the profits in the smartphone space in spite of their not even number one market share. Can I point you at that? People have demonstrated time and time again that they're willing to pay more for an Apple product. And to ask people to pay a mere 15 percent more is well within the realm of the possible. Yeah. Yeah. Can you think about that? So on a car purchase, let's say your car is let's say it's forty thousand dollars. So like entry level is often within like the haggling price at a lot of dealerships. Mind you, Apple won't haggle. No, but I'm saying that I'm just saying like that's yeah. So let's say forty thousand dollars would be kind of like the entry level for like a pretty nice vehicle. Sort of. That's where that's about what Tesla's aiming for with their upcoming four. Thirty five. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Those lines. If Apple asked for, you know, forty eight hundred, you don't think they would win anyone over. You're spending forty thousand already. You might spend an extra seventy five hundred eight thousand. They might have a champagne gold finish on it. I think I think you're basically an idiot to not think that Apple can get another 15 percent out of a customer. So there's that. People are mad at you because they're saying it's 15 percent more on a car and on a phone. So it is a much bigger dollar value. He knows that. I just said that. And people are also mad at you because they're saying it's 15 percent more than a Mercedes. He also knows that. Yeah, I know that, too. I mean, 15 percent more on an iPhone is 15 percent more than a galaxy, which is also, you know, a luxury flagship smartphone. That doesn't change the fact that people are going to give Apple more of their money. That's just how it is. I don't. OK. An extra hundred or two is a lot easier to get than an extra couple thousand dollars. But you're also making much different style of investments and you'd be saving in different ways and possibly getting loans and stuff. That's right. And when you and remember, remember the way that automakers sell cars is with that monthly number. Yeah. OK. So when we're talking 229 a month versus 249 a month. Yeah. Come on, man. It doesn't sound that bad when you hear it at that scale. That's right. And that's going to be your 48 month or 60 month financing or whatever the case may be. I don't think I don't think even Apple is has enough hubris to imagine that people are just going to plug down cash for their cars every time they buy them. They're going to have financing options available. They're going to be attractive. Look at the way Apple's been building relationships with the banks. You think they're not going to be able to figure out a way to make that happen. I think they will. So, yeah, watch out, guys. Watch out. YouTube. This was originally posted by Overlord and our article here is from N Gadget. Wall Street Journal. YouTube isn't making money even with a billion viewers. Is that Nick again? Someone was at the door. Is it locked? No. We only lock it when we're doing other things. Yeah. Yeah. Shouldn't be a problem. No. So despite Gangnam Style having over two billion views, hosting countless other viral clips and netting over a billion users per month, YouTube can't seem to turn a profit. How's that? Well, blah, blah, blah. There's a lot of infrastructure costs. Blah, blah, blah. A lot of YouTubers are circumventing the 45 percent YouTube tax by selling their own advertising. Also, it's hard to sell. And this is this is one of the big reasons why we are actually looking into Vessel as a video platform. Google has a hard time selling ads at reasonable CPMs for online video. So without giving you guys exact numbers that will be sort of helpful to you, but I'm going to try and be helpful to you without giving away anything that I'm not allowed to allow to say as part of my agreement with YouTube. Looking at what someone like Vessel is claiming they can accomplish by offering curated content. So just from creators that they hand select and from not from having what they're hoping, I guess, more similar to broadcast TV is a more diverse audience. So one of the big problems for YouTube, according to the article, is that what was it? Nine percent of viewers make up 85 percent of the traffic, which is horrendous. I mean, an advertiser is not going to pay as much for that versus more unique impressions. So Vessel, let's just say let's just say multiple times higher CPMs. So that could be anywhere from is too technically a multiple. I guess I think so. So anywhere from two to more than two, let's just say that much. I don't want to I don't want to say any more than I can. I think that's pretty safe. So being able to being able to offer much higher being able to sell ads at very low CPMs means that even though YouTube has to show you the viewer a lot of ads and has algorithms on the back end that optimize how many ads they're showing you without fatiguing you as a viewer to the point where you just quit your browsing session. Even with that, thanks to the very low CPMs, they are not able to turn a profit. And that's where competing video platforms may have an opportunity to to take a to take a crack at them. But, of course, you know, the sheer audience size of YouTube is still going to make it a very attractive platform for content creators. And while we are very interested in vessel, if you haven't heard of it, these guys reached out to us about a month ago and pretty much the way it works is your content would be on vessel and also on YouTube. But it would go up to vessel first. So they've actually got some very, very significant just from that, just from the thumbnails back here. You guys should recognize some very familiar faces. So, yeah, could be. It could be it could be a pretty interesting. It could be a pretty interesting year. So we are definitely considering moving maybe not all channels, but at least some of our content over to vessel. And so YouTube will still get the release, but it might get it anywhere from, I think, three days to a week is what content creators are typically doing. I guess this is also a good opportunity to to talk about some of the changes that YouTube's made recently that are generating maybe not a ton, but at least some animosity from their from their content creators. So YouTube is kind of going, hey, you know, those ads that you guys are selling yourselves, that's really going to affect the way that we're going to be able to monetize our content because we we can't we are algorithms for how many ads people are watching. And, you know, how how that affects their viewing experience. Hey, those don't work if if we're not controlling the ad placement. So we need you guys going through the proper channels to do your advertising. Oh, I have a note from Ghost. Maybe I should explain what CPM means. That's how many dollars are you're selling for per thousand views cost per mill, not million mill like a thousand. So so blah, blah, blah. Right. So so they don't want content creators baking in their own ads. But from our side, looking at what a typical video CPM would be, what we get through something like AdSense is not even close to comparable and would not help us sustain our business. And we don't have access as creators to tools where we could, you know, like, you know how a pre-roll will run across, you know, a video, whether it's Nike or McDonald's or whatever else. We don't have access to fill those slots ourselves. Like, we don't have the dashboard that would let us sell our own ads and then populate those spots. So the only options we have are to bake things into the content. So so basically for the longest time, it's been kind of Wild West. Content creators have been able to largely do whatever they wanted, even though a lot of what people have done is technically against the rules. No one's ever really cracked down on it. And so now all of a sudden they're taking that capability away from us, which means that we have to find over the next little while some new creative ways to to make sure that, you know, I don't have to lay off all of my staff and stop making YouTube videos and get a job flipping burgers in order to to keep the lights on and keep this whole operation going. So I sympathize with YouTube and I understand. I totally understand the reason they have to do this. Clean ad free content is much easier to sell ads against when you so that you're not overwhelming the viewer. But the flip side of that is they haven't given us the tools and they haven't given us the capability to to sell our own ads at reasonable CPMs. And they haven't provided the CPMs that we need to keep growing our operation on. So there's a bit of a there's a bit of a trust gap, I would say, on on my side anyway, where YouTube doesn't work with me directly at all. I know a lot of creators my size or even significantly smaller where YouTube is in communication with them. But other than a blog post that I did back in 2010, I want to say about finding your niche. And it was on like the the creators blog or whatever the equivalent was back then. I have never heard from YouTube except when I've reached out like, hey, I never got my silver subscriber plaque. Could I get that and like stuff like that? Super not helpful, actually. Hey, my channel got hijacked. Can you take a month to get it back to me? That'd be great. Thanks. Like that kind of thing. So not helpful at all. So, yeah, I don't know. I feel like so they have some ideas. They're hoping that their music music key and some other ideas can help turn a profit through YouTube. I think there's there's a lot of potential to to to create, you know, like a premium, a premium YouTube where people pay a monthly subscription or pay whatever for for ad free access, for example. And I mean, maybe that maybe this is a precursor to that. That's why they need to remove the ads that are baked into the content so people don't complain. Hey, I'm paying for this premium YouTube access. I'm still seeing ads. So creating a better user experience, all that stuff, like totally get why they're doing it. And that means that we're going to have to look for other creative ways to make sure that our business doesn't suffer. And, you know, my employees and children continue to eat and all that stuff in the meantime. So expect to see us try out potentially other video services like Vessel. Expect to see us have more merch available in the next little bit. Expect to see us pushing the whole changing your Amazon link to one with our affiliate code thing over the next little bit. And there's going to be some new ideas we're rolling out on the forum to make the community a little bit more fun to participate in, as well as see if we can drive a little bit more revenue there, because I don't know if a lot of you know this, but Google actually cut off our ad sense on the forum a couple of months ago. It has been generating zero revenue for a couple of months other than our contributors who are just I mean, for contributors, we don't have a lot of perks for them. We just want to contribute out of the goodness of their hearts and to support us. And that's the only thing keeping the site going and contributing to the time that we spend on it behind the scenes as well. So most of the time, so it's not a lot of hours, most of the time, so it's not a lot of hours. And like, so, yeah, we just we're going to need some we're going to need some new ideas. We do have cool stuff coming. We do have cool stuff coming. I've been saying that for a little while, but like it's actually very close. Yeah. I don't know. I think because we're getting kind of overtime by a bit, if you scroll down a fair amount. Yeah. I want to show you something. It's it's at the end of the main. Can I just mention this dying light thing? Yeah. OK. Posted by nine shadow. You want to show that? Yeah. Yeah. There's a dying light edition for two hundred and fifty thousand pounds that comes with a zombie proof shelter. You also get to go hang out with the devs and like a bunch of other stuff. I'll let you win custom built zombie proof shelter provided by Tiger Log Cabins. People thought it was a joke is not a joke. It's like the whoa. You get your face in the game. Only one My Apocalypse edition will be sold and it's available exclusively through the UK retailer game. Unbelievable. OK, we can move on to the next thing. It's kind of like the Saints Row thing. Yeah. They sold like the car or whatever. OK, so scroll a lot of the way down. It's just before the rights right here. Oh, OK. Yeah, sure. Seattle Police body cam. You want to start talking about it. I don't know anything about. OK, so I don't know a ton about it. It was one of my buddies sent it to me like way earlier today. And I've had a few tweets and stuff about it. But apparently the Seattle PD actually has a YouTube channel for their body cam footage. No way. It's now there. It's actually been a lot easier for them to handle. They have some new method where it used to take them about 60 minutes to like properly blur out everything in the shots and whatnot for a minute of footage. And now they can do it a lot faster. I don't know exactly where the spec is for that, but they can do it way faster. There's an example video in here of some of their footage. Yeah, so they're now actually using YouTube. So, yeah, you'll see you'll see like you can see a lot of what's going on, to be completely honest. But you'll see like when it when it kind of peers up at people, it blurs them out a little bit and stuff. And there's a lot of stuff that's like purposely blurred out. Huh. But you can kind of see what's going on. So it's a proper body cam. And then, yeah, they when it when it kind of points up, it blurs out a lot. And then once it comes back down, it lessens the blur by quite a bit. Interesting. Yeah. So there you go. You came up with the solution that I totally said was ridiculous and shouldn't be a viable solution. It probably shouldn't be. It probably shouldn't be. But, you know, whatever. Apparently, it took half a day to process four hours of raw video, which is a lot better than 60 minutes for one minute. You know what I've like, you know, what kind of baffles me is that there isn't a tool for like seriously, can someone can someone come up with this YouTube? You know, while I'm, you know, complaining about you not giving creators tools, why isn't there a way for us to blur something out after the fact? Yeah. Like, really, why isn't there just a tool for like in real time while we're watching a video, we just have like a like a blur brush and like we just hold down and like move around according to the video to blur something like that seems like it seems like the kind of thing that should have like obviously been a thing for years. Like the blurring tools that that are built into programs like Premiere and Vegas are all like this key frame based stupid complete stupidity that has that is takes so long compared to like if I just had like a mouse scroll wheel and that changed the size dynamically. So I could just play the video at like half speed or something and then I could just like change the size and follow something around on screen to blur that would solve 99% of it. Have it add like five seconds before and five seconds afterwards so that your delayed click gets taken care of. Like it is unbelievable to me that tools like that don't exist. The Apple Watch event is announced for March the 9th. This is posted by Overlord on the forum. Tim Cook has some pretty bold statements to make about the Apple Watch in general. Something along the lines of, you know, it will replace your wallet, it will replace your car keys, it will do important things that make you happy. My response to that is maybe the third gen one will because that first gen one is a gigantic turd if it's only going to have like four hours of screen time. So spring forward is the announcement. Select Media have been invited. Of course we have not. Is our camera working? That would be a pretty convenient time to start the stream. Okay. All right. Ultra. Well hold on. Let's just see if there's anything else that we should be talking about. But you're showing right now. Yeah, that's fine. So this is cool. 60% on a nine to five Mac readers poll. So out of 3,100 people are not satisfied with current gen iPhone battery life and want Apple to thicken the next iPhone to improve battery life. I agree with them 100%. I don't understand why we need a camera, why we compromise on a camera bump. Yeah. But we won't compromise on just making it a little bit thicker. Yeah. That was posted by Opcode. This is interesting. Intel will rebrand the Atom processor to X3, X5 and X7 because they didn't have enough overlap with BMW's naming already. Yeah, seriously. Yay. Just get it over with and become one company already. Can you guys just, you know, sleep together? Just go get a room so that this stops being awkward for everyone else. Thank you. Google's new AI has already learned how to crush us at 49 games. So this was without being actually a gaming AI posted by Rohit Kumar SP. So this is sort of similar to the conversation that Luke and I had a little while ago about how... All it could figure out how to do was identify the idea of cat, which is actually really impressive. Which is actually kind of a big deal and was actually a pretty old experiment by the time that he was saying that. Yeah. So what was it? How many games? Like 29 of them? 49. No, there were a significant 29 games. It surpassed the performance of expert humans and outperformed the best known algorithmic methods for completing games in 43 instances. Yeah, out of 49 games total. So the AI just kind of spent all its time playing old arcade games and learned how to play them. It's not a gaming specific AI. It's an AI built to try to find better ways to do things in general. And just a really easy way to do that is to throw Atari 2600 games at it because they're very formulaic. Yeah. So what's cool. So they gave... they automatically rewarded the AI with like a treat for getting... for passing levels and getting high scores in the same way that you'll get like... You'll get a chemical rush whenever you feel like you accomplished something. Yeah. So, yeah. Pretty freaking cool. So here was the machine strategy when it first got its hands on breakout. Yeah, this is actually pretty sick once it gets a little bit further in. I don't think it goes any further in. It's just showing us... Oh, I've seen a different GIF then. Yeah. So it's just showing us like it didn't really know what to do at first. But if you give it a reward every time it scores or beats a level, then it figures out how to do better. It'll be like, oh, okay, I'm supposed to do this. And then, oh, okay, I can do this faster, better, or whatever. Yeah. Fascinating. All right. So thank you guys. Oh, is there anything else you wanted to talk about? Nope. Okay. Thank you guys very much for tuning in to the WAN Show. We hope you enjoyed it as much as we did. Thanks to our sponsors HyperX, Massdrop, and XSplit. And we will see you guys again next time. Bye. You gotta play the outro thing. I will. Oh. There it goes. Oh, not really. Wait, hold on. There it goes. Apparently there's no sound. Oh, I know what the problem is. Oh, I just figured out exactly what the problem is. Yeah, I think I just have to select a different... So the audio device is so nice. It just went completely haywire. Yeah. Hold on. Let's try it again. Let's try it again. So, uh... I can't hear it anymore, but I bet they can. We're still broadcasting. Yeah, there's sound. So, okay. Yeah, we fixed the sound on the outro. Anyway. Alright, good night everyone. Bye.