 There is no way in f**king hell you have 700,000 CDs. When it comes to storage, everyone knows the rule of 3-2-1. That's three copies of your data across two different media types, with at least one of them kept off-site. But do the LMG staff practice what they preach? Acronis sponsored this video and provided a license to their Acronis CyberProtect Home Office software so we could find out who the biggest data hoarder at LMG is, and if their data is really safe. If they're really doing it properly. I have two of the 2TB 2.5 drive, one 4TB 2.5 drive, one 3.5 external drive for 5TB. You said so many numbers because you were saying the size of the drive. This is impossible to like... Do you have 5TB drives or 6TB? I have 2.5. 2.5. 2.5, so you have 10TBs. I had a NAS. Oh s**t, we got more. It was like a 2-bit one, now I just like upgraded to like a 4-bit one, add another 12TB in there. So that's like 48TB HUMBA have like one drive that's in parity. So that NAS is for 12TB drives, right? Yeah. Okay, you have 36 usable. It was mainly for all the photo I took and all the client project or my personal project and screw project. But they're not full right now because I just recently upgraded to the 4-bit drive. Because I just recently upgraded it, so like the current setup is the setup I want. But for those external drive, I would really prefer just to have like them all in one. So Andy, you have a bunch of external drives before, right? He's a Mac user. Explains so much. That's a fun way to say, never mind. So you're a Mac user, you used to have a bunch of external drives like in a dock, right? I'm assuming you're using like a toaster. So you've sort of been just progressing over the years of you got this 2-bit and then you get another 2-bit. Awfulness, and then he finally bought a 4-bit. And then he gets a 4-bit. And now he's moving everything into it. Okay. No, not already. It's like what's a backup? Like those hard drives, like external hard drives, I usually don't plug them in. So they're kind of like a cold backup. It's not a cold backup, they bit rot Andy. You got to keep them going all the time. And you have to check the data that's on them. I will cry and cry hard. Your backup strategy is that you will cry if you lose it. He's mean to future Andy, honestly. Hey, this doesn't look like Mac Andy, this is Windows. Yes, you are. Wow, that is a very full 5 terabyte. Now that's hoarding. You fill up the whole thing until you have no swap space left. All right. It implodes. A cloud is your NAS, right? Okay, so you got 31 terabytes usable. Oh my God, all of these external drives. Is there photo? Oh yeah, there is photos. Oh, I got to see this. Wait, a hub, you say. Oh my God. Oh, it is a toaster. Yeah, there's the NAS. Okay. Is that a little... Nice cable management. It's a TP link. Is that 2.5 gig? Whoa, look at you. Does the NAS actually have 2.5 gig? Wow. Okay, so you've got two 5 terabyte drives that are entirely separate now. You've got... Oh my God, are these NVME SSDs? What the hell? This looks like inventory items to me. So they're all just hooked up to your Thunderbolt dock. What is this, Andy? So this is like the type of hoarder who's got garbage all over every room. Oh yeah. And I prefer the type of hoarder who takes all their garbage and just puts it in one big **** off pile in the middle of their living room. Yeah. Andy, you have a problem. Yeah, this is a problem. You need to consolidate this. He's working on it. Okay, is the plan to take everything put on the NAS? Yes. Okay. Are you going to get rid of the other things? No, then he'll have more space to put stuff back onto them. Think of your kids. I think this is... he's like a six. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what the scale is. I have just about 23 terabytes on the main NAS and then a couple other terabytes here and there on other drives. I'm talking. It's not super full because I mostly use it for game capture while I'm streaming, but it's probably like five or six terabytes at this point. So I got this NAS as part of my Intel upgrade setup. It was an old PC that I kind of transplanted it into it. I've actually switched a little bit of what was seen in the video. It's now like a Windows system. It's not an unraid. Got to love running your storage on Windows. I have some backup stuff. So if it's something that I'm really worried about losing or I don't I really don't want to replay, I'll put it to cloud storage. I pay for the extra storage on Google. I do that too. You mean you do things properly? I would replay all the games, baby. You know, who needs to deal with your backlog when you can replay the games you've already played? It sounds like he's using this as like a memory bank for all the games that he's played. So yeah, that would be kind of sad to lose that. Especially as it's, you know, high quality recordings of old vintage games that nobody's probably ever played before. Like, I don't know, Mario or Castlevania. He could, it could be some of Mario. Another thing that I would really change is that it's actually a water-cooled system. Oh God. The NAS is water-cooled? Yeah. Water and data usually don't mix too well. It's a NAS. It doesn't need to be. All it really does is end bank on the GPU. And so it's kind of cool. It sounds like his NAS is also like his streaming PC. I think it's in his encoding or something like that. Yeah, it sounds like it's doing the streaming and the recording, which is pretty cool. Actually, double duty is a good idea. Yeah. Wow. Oh yeah, buddy. Is this Taron's desk? Jesus. This is like, this is a roasting viewer setups video now. We've got a Nintendo 64. Sorry. This is where the magic happens. That's a lot of game code. Oh, there we go. It is under the desk. You're right. Wow, look at all those. It's all my hard drives. I think under my recommendation, he bought a proper HBA, which is cool. Rather than just plugging into like, SATA ports. That's a good recommendation. Hold on, this game is holding up the reservoir. Look at the tube. This is so beautifully jank. The funny thing is it doesn't look like any water is moving in here. The idea is I can play games while streaming, while recording the footage, so I can do just 17 birds with 1.3 stones. Pretty controlled chaos, I would say. This is an extremely reasonable amount of chaos. But the nice thing is he's done the garbage pile in the living room. Yeah. But it's not like a garbage pile. This is the type of hoarding where you just have too many knickknacks, and you've got all your shelves, and they just got crap all over them. And you're like, no, I can't throw out this vintage Mrs. Buttersworth. I might like to look at it in five years. Not that I'm going to sell it. And unwater cool it. And if you're not going to unwater cool it, don't have it sitting on a game, kinking the tube. I like it. I'm going to give you a seven, David. This is pleasant. It's at least contained. In terms of storage, I have 20 hard drives, roughly about two terabytes each. Just 20 hard drives? Holy s***. And then there's three more that are varying sizes of five, four, and eight terabytes. They're all populated because they're my backups. Collectively, it's about 82.5 ish terabytes. And then on top of that, I have hundreds of tapes. Oh, and then I have a five bay NAS populated with eight terabyte drives. Altogether, it's around 127 ish terabytes. So I'm kind of old. You're kind of old. Back in the day, I shot everything on tape. And it made more sense because data was, or hard drives were more expensive. So it made sense just to shoot on the tape and have it on the tape. Degradation wasn't that bad, especially with digital video. Before working here, I worked doing wedding videos for about 10 years. And that's all the videos I've ever recorded. Hundreds of terabytes of someone else's wedding. No, we used to also keep previous clients footage because sometimes they'd be like, oh, hey, we didn't actually want to pay for a cut of this, but we've decided and do you still have it, we would like to pay you more money. And sometimes it can be a godsend. 120 ish terabytes is an unnecessary quantity of terabytes. Is it unnecessary? Yeah, because he's not storing Linux ISOs. He's storing other people's weddings. Not to throw shade at Drobo, but I kind of wish I didn't go with the Drobo. Drobo? What's Drobo? I was going to ask you that. Does anybody know what Drobo is? Dropbox? Okay, cool. It was Thunderbolt, Thunderbolt 2. Oh, they're Mac specific things. Oh, he didn't even mention. I forgot he's a Mac guy. I went with the Drobo setup because I had a whole bunch of random disks, not like equal size and I wanted redundancy and that just was not an option with the standard nest. Is it just in a pile in the middle of his living room? Like, I hope, I hope. Couple plastic bags. Not bags. So offsite, no, that was something I wanted to look into, but now that I've moved out of the wedding industry, it just isn't really an issue. I think it's only ever come up once that I needed to get footage again for past couple of years. Past couple. See, I told you, it does happen, right? One time. How many weddings did this guy shoot if he's got hundreds of tapes? I mean, he probably got so much dopamine saving the day that he's never going to delete any of this. But TLDR, he should. Oh, yeah, just burn it. Put it in your yard. I mean, it's not that big of a deal now. Even if it's not a big deal if he lost it. I'd be sad. He'd be sad, though. I'd be more upset if I lost the videotapes, to be honest, which is part of the reason why I'm working on backing everything up. I actually bought a VCR, too, to back up all of my old VHS tapes from way back in the day. It's a damn good VCR, too. Dan's dad helped me fix it, so I shouldn't say helped me fix it. He fixed it for me. Is your dad like a VCR repairman? Yeah, he ran a shop for years and years. He's one of the first color TV engineers. Yeah, fixing them. That was a liberal estimate, actually. 127. Like I mentioned, it could be close to half a petabyte. Half a petabyte? What? If I really want to convert everything, which I haven't yet, because I also have CDs, too. I just didn't want to bring up my pirating prowess back then. How much does a CD hold? 735 megabitbles. 100 terabytes. I want to see his plastic bags of CDs now. So we're talking half a million gigabytes. You said how many? 700 times 30 megs. You're talking 700,000 CDs. There is no way in hell you have 700,000 CDs to make up. OK, OK, sorry. Sorry, let me deduct a little bit here. Let's start with like 380 terabytes times 1,000. Oh my god. Still a lot. You need a warehouse to fill these CDs. Mark, you're so full of ****. Even if I have more data somehow, I don't know if I can compete with half a petabyte of CDs, but if I have more data, I think Mark still wins because it's just a pure chaos. Look at all these. 200? No, that said gigabyte. OK, I'm not impressed anymore. I just call it T7 old hard drive. It's a 5 terabyte, a 4 terabyte, a 6 terabyte. 70 terabytes. That must be his ****. That's the Drobo. Oh my god. Wow, he does have like 20 hard drives. I like that he like 3D printed holders for them. Did you buy those? I don't know. That's an ****. That's probably the Drobo. Maybe? I don't know. I'm just so... That's not even that many. It's like three bins and they're like flat bins. It's nice. I think Mark was misleading us a little bit. I want to see the 500 plastic bags full of loose DVDs. On my main NAS, I have 64 terabytes of storage and I'm using just shy of 40 terabytes of it. As a general rule, I store absolutely nothing on the individual computers in the house because that's how you lose data. Oh, absolutely. Right now, I have pretty much no SSD acceleration. It's basically all mechanical. That can be okay. My on-raid setup is purely just hard drives. There is cache drives, but I just use them for storing VMs. It's kind of a weird perspective because he could basically just have whatever he wants. And instead, he chose not only hard drives, but they're like the Seagate archive ones. So they're shingled drives. Yeah, not great. I also had some regrets before because I didn't have a fast enough processor to handle transcoding movies while also putting in closed captions, which is apparently like single thread limited. So I got my hands after I built it on a 9990XE. Massive shout out Puget Systems. That's a really unique CPU. My backup story is a little complicated. I do have a backup. I don't know exactly where it is and it's super out of date. It's really bad. I'm not practicing what I preach when it comes to my personal data. But the issue is I was going to have Jake help me back it up to the office. So this is all your fault? Oh, no, he's admitting it. Isn't that part of this project? Okay, good. Yeah, we're building a target. So I will. Oh, awesome. So that's I'm solving it by green lighting this video. If I lost everything tomorrow, first I'd cry. I actually would. And that's, yeah. You know what? Oh my God, I have my backup stuff. So I even took home our old IOS safe fireproof NAS. But then I ran into some issue with the drives that I was putting it into. Because really it's the photos. It's all about the family photos and a ton of it I have in Google Drive or in Google Photos. Right. He uses Plex to sync his phone's photos back to his NAS. And like that's how he stores them. So has he not heard of like Sync Tracer or like Sync Thing or one of those? Google Photos. Or Dropbox or like. But it's like sporadic, right? Like it's not organized. The one place I have definitely absolutely everything is my NAS. And so I wanted to put everything on the fireproof NAS. But then I ran into some issue with that too. And I've just been it's like the mechanic with a crappy car, you know? I just sometimes I don't feel motivated to fix my own tech stuff. He would cry. I mean, yeah, most people would unless it's, you know, you don't want to lose hundreds of weddings. Yeah, it's actually like pretty I want this case. Damn it. He's the one that has it. What is the case? This is like a Norco 24 bay case. And I've been trying to find one. You just can't. That's nice. They have awful backplanes. It's not that nice, actually. But it's like a cheap way to do it. But yeah, I mean, it's a pretty sweet setup. So I guess this answers the question of how much storage you have because we're looking at it. Looks like you've got two. No, that's work. That's users. Okay. So it looks like you've got about 84 terabytes. Usable. Usable. So that's pretty impressive. I think we have a ray of 11 devices. What the f**k? My what? So does your case allow for 11 or like what are you doing? No, no, no, no, no, no. This is a 12. It's a 12k. Like I haven't touched the drives in my NAS. Okay, so Jake is the first one to have failures on camera setting up. But it's not a failure. It's like it's not even in the array. It's not even been detected. So it'd be 104 terabytes, right? And then plus the other 8 terabytes. It's just trying to beat Mark now. So that'd be 112 terabytes. That's pretty good. In my NAS. That's pretty good. And your utilization is like at acceptable levels for a hoarder, I would say. I'm using like 50 terabytes. What do you use your main NAS for? Well... Besides all the Linux CDs. There's a few Linux ISOs. Yeah. I backup all the other systems in my house, which is only two systems. But because I have so much storage, I can just... You're just rolling backups? Like is it all constant? Yeah, I think I have like 60 days worth of backups per system. That's pretty good. I'm like Linus. I'm ethical about my Linux ISOs. I pay for the subscription Linux ISOs. You pay for Ubuntu when... I pay for Ubuntu. I pay for CentOS. You pay for Mint. I pay for Mint. A lot of it honestly is kind of redundant data that I don't need. Well, that's what hoarding is all about. I will admit I have far too much data and far too much storage than I should have. I backup to my home NAS and I also backup to Backblaze, Backblaze B2. That cost me like 20 or 30 bucks a month, but I know that it's like safe there. And it's also at home and it's also on the origin. So it's in like three different places. It's in like Montreal, like Kentucky, and Vancouver. So you've gone one step further between two on-site, one off-site. You've also gone like two off-site, but in different countries. That's pretty critical. Looks like you got some Unify equipment there too. Older Unify. Very older. It's a brand new. That's the 2.5 gig switch at the top. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's quite nice. And then you've got that nice little rack mount cache. And that looks nice too. What kind of GPU you got in there? It's a 1660 Ti. That's for Linux ISO encoding. I got to score you. The problem is that you're doing things properly and you have business related like critical infrastructure as well. It's a very small percentage of what's on there. But I don't know, six out of 10. Seven out of 10. Six. Six out of seven. What did we score Mark? Seven. Really? Yeah. I think Mark wins. I think Mark wins. You're a close, close goddamn sucker. But the problem is that you've done a reasonable setup here. Instead of playing games, you run game servers, right? 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