 Welcome to the live stream everyone. We've got a bit of a different audio setup this time. Maybe I'll give you guys a quick tour of what's going on. And I've also repositioned the camera and we're using a different camera. And I know that we do things differently every week and a lot of you are probably thinking, Linus are you freaking insane? Why don't you just do the same thing every week so that you don't have these problems? To which I would reply, good idea. That is an excellent, most excellent suggestion and I should probably get right on that. I have made one super awesome addition and that is that I'll be sitting up here with a laptop so that I can look at notes and I've created a bit of an agenda for myself which hopefully at some point I'll get around to actually sharing with Slick before we start so that he has the advantage of knowing what we're going to talk about as well. But maybe it'll be more fun to just blindside him. So we're going to open up with some Twitter chat. Actually, what we're going to open up with is me making sure that this is actually public. Oh, look at that. It didn't accept my naming for my YouTube thing. I love that. That's my favorite thing. You know what? When YouTube doesn't take... Let's have a bit of a discussion on how YouTube just ignores the user's instructions on uploads sometimes. Some of you might have noticed that one of my Titan videos went up a little bit on the early side. It went up about 45 minutes early or something like that and it was my 1600p performance review. And I stand by naming it 1600p even though that's not necessarily sort of what everyone calls it. So it's 2560 by 1600, which I've been informed by Diesel. I should be calling 2.5k, but whatever. Anyway, the point is it's a greater than HD resolution test. And I think it had something along the lines of 300 comments on it or something ridiculous like that before I realized what had happened and I pulled it down. So that was as a result of YouTube not for whatever reason gathering that I wanted to set that video to private, which has happened a number of times in the past. So this I'm actually correcting. Here we go. I'm correcting one of my videos right now, which is announcing the live stream. And it just completely ignored me when I put in a bunch of sort of interesting things that I wanted to say about what video this is. And apparently there are zero viewers. So I better check that I'm actually even live because that would be even more clever at this point in time. Let's check the Twitch chat. Oops. Let's open Firefox randomly. Turn up the mic gain slightly out of focus. Sound is dead. People are saying I am indeed live though. Okay. Sound is not half bad. Live but poor quality. Okay. Well, all I can really do to fix the focus would be to sort of put something where my head's going to... because Slick's going to be joining me in a minute. I think he's just grabbing some food and bad focus. Yeah, I know the focus. Okay. You know what? I'll try and fix the focus on my own. The audio is different this week. Actually, you can probably barely hear me right now because... See this? Check it out. We got ourselves... Hold on. Let me see if I can get that in focus. Let me see if I can get that zoom. That zoom. So we got ourselves a C-stand. There it is. C-stand. Got like a rugged base going on there. So we got a C-stand holding a boom pole. And then we are using our shotgun mic. And while I'm over here, I might as well bump the ISO a little bit. I think we're fixing things anyway. That's probably a touch bright, but whatever. Anyway, so there's our mic that we usually position on the camera itself. So now that's not going to be positioned on the camera. So I'm going to see if I can get this focus just right. So that's behind me. That looks like the chair. That looks like... Why don't we go with the chair? So the craft is in focus. That looks like the chair. Okay, yeah. There we go. Let's go with that. I'm going to lock this off. And I'm going to hope that all of that is all good. People are saying they can't hear. No need to point where the camera doesn't go. Lighting much better. Okay, so hopefully that's a little bit better for you guys. It looks like the frame rate is going to chop a little bit. But we're still having trouble with the Blackmagic Intensity Pro card. I think it might be related to the AMD motherboard CPU combo that we swapped out for in our streaming rig. Sometimes in spite of PCI Express being a standard and therefore standardized, someone says if you're going to talk about PS4, please keep it short. I actually was planning to keep that very, very short. Neither slick nor I are console guys. The most recently released console... Okay, I own an Xbox 360 and a PS3 to be clear. I do own them. The PS3 has been plugged in once and used once. And the Xbox 360 has been plugged in once and has been used once. So the most recent generation console that I've actually used is a PS2. And then the most recent generation console that I've actually used extensively that I own is actually a Super Nintendo. So yeah, there you go. What was I saying? Yeah, right. So because PCI Express is a standard, doesn't necessarily mean that everything works perfectly interoperably with everything else. There's actually a lot of testing that goes on, particularly at the motherboard manufacturer level and the hardware manufacturer level as well, although more on that in a moment, to make sure that components will actually work, especially more exotic components like RAID cards, high-end NIC cards, capture cards, things like that, where these are bandwidth intensive devices, but not something that your everyday average consumer is actually going to be using. So more on the testing. I actually had a really interesting conversation with JJ from ASUS while we were at CES that I haven't briefed you guys on yet. And that was about the amount of testing that ASUS has to do on their motherboards in order to have their customers have a satisfying experience. So, okay, are people complaining about the sound still? Okay, I will turn it up a touch, but I really... Jack, Jack? I really didn't think it was that low, but it actually might be now that I'm looking at it. Okay, hold on. Let me get that fixed. All right. How are we doing now? Is that better, you guys? Hopefully that's a little bit better. So that should be loud now. How's the echo, though? I'm actually really curious because I don't know if you guys noticed, but I did actually put a bunch of random foam all over the walls and ceiling in order to hopefully reduce the echo in here a little bit. And having the sound a little bit...or having the microphone a little bit closer, it's actually right here. I'm touching it now. So that's where the microphone is now. I think that should help reduce the echo as well. We're trying to gradually improve the production values of this operation overall, but it's taking time. I don't know if you guys saw it. Okay, sorry, sorry. I got distracted. So anyway, I'm a little bit sort of worried that our AMD platform we're running right now is not compatible with our capture cards. It just doesn't work quite right. They're very high bandwidth devices, very finicky devices. And this brings me to Asus' conversation where they basically, JJ was kind of venting that a lot of the responsibility for this compatibility seems to fall on the motherboard guys, even though 99.9% of the time... Okay, not 99.9%, but most of the time, they're not actually the ones who are responsible for the device not freaking working. Most of the time, it's actually the designer of whatever card it happens to be. And I'm holding up a graphics card, but this is kind of a bad example because AMD and Nvidia are extremely diligent about their PCI Express compatibility, which isn't to say there haven't been mix-ups in the past, but these manufacturers are sometimes smaller manufacturers who can't afford even to completely redesign a PCB and chip and all the engineering that goes into that to make it compatible with even more than 80% of motherboards out there. So I think there might be an issue with that. I think we're going to have to change that platform. I'm probably going to move over to this guy right here. So this is a very high-end board from a few generations back. This is a P7P55DE Premium, so super, super high-end board from a few generations ago. We didn't want to put it in the test bench just yet, though, because we have a really interesting video coming out where we're going to be comparing the 8350, the 3770, the 3930K, and an 875K, so a little bit of an older platform, to find out how much of a difference there is on the world's fastest single GPU card, so that is the GTX Titan, with all of these different platforms. Are people using an older system going to have an okay experience? What about people using newer systems of various kinds? So that's going to be kind of awesome. Someone's saying, don't blame AMD. It works just fine. It might not be AMD's fault. I just said AMD platforms, so it could be something to do with ASUS's implementation on that board. It could be something to do with Blackmagic being the ones who screwed something up, or AverMedia. I don't know what the problem is. What I said is the cards aren't working on that particular AMD platform. In fact, they weren't working. I said the same thing before when... Oh, mute your own stream. Hold on. Is it on? Oh, you know what you guys get... It's because of the directionality of the shotgun mic. I have headphones right here that I use to monitor, and you probably can't hear them now. I chucked them away a little bit, but probably because the directionality of the shotgun mic is so... It looks like you got... Okay, okay. We'll talk about this after. Someone figures that I got paid to make Titan videos. Yeah, we'll definitely cover this, and that's totally not true and absolutely ridiculous. So hold on. Moving right along. Anyway, directionality, shotgun mic, headphones, problem. So Titan, did I get paid? Adding that as a discussion topic since apparently people do want to talk about that. I also had a lot of questions about why I didn't compare Titan to 690. There's a lot of conspiracy theorists thinking that I don't want to compare Titan to 690. Actually, I've asked NVIDIA for a 690 probably a dozen times in the last six months. I didn't get one, or I should say probably about 10 months now. I didn't get one because there was a mandatory briefing that you had to attend to get a GTX 690 when it launched. I missed that mandatory briefing because I was literally in an operating room where my wife was undergoing a cesarean section for the delivery of my baby. So I missed that briefing, and since then, they actually haven't... They don't really just randomly sample GPUs. You either get one at launch or you don't get one. So I asked several times again before Titan came out to get my hands on a 690 so that I could do comparative testing. Did not get one. So that is why I didn't test it. Not because anyone didn't want you to see the numbers or anything like that. I did do one video with a 690. I borrowed one. I had it for like two days, and that was it. And then I had to return it, and that was so that I could do that video I did on triple GTX 670 or 660 Ti, something like that, versus 690 to see what was actually a better value. So let's do some Twitter questions for a little bit. I'm just going to find my thing here. Someone says 690 is more important than baby. No, no, it was definitely more important to do the whole baby thing. All right. On to Twitter. Frank Siriani says, best NAS solution for $400 or less. Actually, you have a lot of options for NAS for $400 or less. You know what I'd probably do? I'd probably get my hands on an old... Okay, for $400, yeah, you can do a lot of different stuff. I would either go with something like a Synology, which is a very robust NAS solution. Actually, I think I have one over here. Yeah, here we go. So for that kind of coin, you can get yourself something like this disk station. It's a little more than $400, I think. It's extremely robust, so the performance is outstanding. One of the things about cheap NASs is that a NAS or a network-attached storage, for those of you guys who don't know, but a NAS is often sort of priced according to how many drives it accepts and what levels of rate it supports and all of the features that it has, although a lot of the time, especially cheaper NASs, those features don't necessarily work, and you can put as many drives as you want in it, but it's so slow that it's unbearable anyway. I remember there was a really popular D-Link NAS. That was a little bit older than three, four years ago. DNS 323, that one was super popular, but it could only do 15 to 25 megabytes per second. Actually, I think it was less than 25, like 15 to 22 megabytes per second reads and writes, and I was like, okay, so it's got a gigabit port on it, but who cares? Because it can only do a fifth of what gigabit is actually capable of. So high-performance NASs like this one break away from that because they have the actual processing power on board to take advantage of the gigabit network connections they have, and they have very robust firmwares for things like torrenting directly to the NAS without even having a client installed on your PC, things like rebuilding the array on the fly and just remote access and built-in web servers and all that kind of cool stuff. The other option you have for a budget like that is getting your hands on an older, honestly, it doesn't have to be anything special, like an old crappy computer, as long as it has quite a few PCI Express slots, buy some cheap SATA controller cards, and then run something like just run some kind of like a Linux NAS operating system, or even get your hands on a copy of Windows Home Server 2011 or 2012 or whatever it is, and something like that's an option as well because you know when you have a PC, it's as customizable as you could possibly want. There are so many apps you can run on it. That is to say that apps are applications and no more and no less, and it gives you a lot of flexibility. So people are asking where Slick is, and I'm sort of wondering the same thing, so I'm going to go holler and see if he's done eating because I've been entertaining the audience without him for a while here. So give me like one moment and I'll be back. Okay. So we have located Slick, and for that one viewer who comments on every livestream that the show would be better without Slick, I'm sorry. He has not actually been taken off the show. He is very much still going to be joining us on the show, but you definitely do amuse me, not him so much, but you definitely do amuse me with your weekly comment and suggestion that he should be kicked off. You know what, I haven't actually done enough looking into Chromebook Pixel to talk about it this week, but there are some other things that we can talk about. You know what, I'm actually going to... Here, let me just mute my headphones there so that you guys definitely can't hear it anymore. Sorry about that. All right. No, Slick is showing up. Don't worry, you guys. He's coming. He's coming eventually. Hey, Linus, check out this eGPU solution running through Thunderbolt GTX 670. You know what? Okay, yeah, I don't need to check the link because I'm pretty familiar with it. So there's actually... We had a Magma Express Box 3T, which is more of an official Thunderbolt to PCI Express bridge solution, so you've got Thunderbolt and then a box that has PCI Express slots in it. But it should be mentioned that even though that didn't work because of the lack of official driver support from AMD and NVIDIA, there are DIY solutions. The only drawback is most of them are limited to, I think it's PCIe 4X Gen 1 or something like that. It might be PCIe 1X Gen 2 or something. Some low bandwidth solution that doesn't really affect performance that much on low-end or mid-range cards, but if you were to try to run a high-end GPU off of it, it might become a bit of an issue. Okay, this is from about 10 minutes ago, someone complaining about the audio. I think I fixed that already. So let's go and have a look at some of the new tweets. Now that we're doing Twitter Q&A, have you heard about Google Fiber opening shop in Ontario? No, but I'm extremely disappointed to hear that because this will do nothing but cement the impression that Torontonians have that they do actually exist at the direct center of the universe. No, no, I'm just messing with you viewers from Toronto. Although I can't imagine there's that many. It's like 1230 at night there. But I know that's incredibly exciting. Google Fiber is one of the things that has me geeking out because it's not necessarily just about the gigabit up and down connection speeds, but about the latencies that are or lack thereof that Fiber will deliver, which enables technologies such as cloud gaming and welcome. I'm glad you decided to show up. Google Fiber is looking for engineers in Ontario. Yeah, that was actually a thing that you probably heard on the way in. Was that your one contribution for a live stream topic? No, I had the two things... You're not in the frame, squeeze over. I had the two things that I brought up in that linked weekly. Oh yeah, okay. Why don't we start with... Okay, you know what? I moved the camera. So now because you're sitting in front of me, you actually look like a giant. No, no, I'm just going to move a little bit. Well, I could actually sit up and then... Well, then you'd look even more like a giant. I'm a giant slick tonight. So yeah, don't worry too much about it. Okay, that awkward moment when the host is gone. I went up to go look for you, and I had some success. Is it bad to suddenly unplug your computer? Yes, but no, it won't short out your components. It's mostly bad from a software perspective, because the components, they get turned off. The power gets cut to them, regardless of whether you hold the button, hit the switch on the back of the power supply, and then you unplug it. It's the same thing to the components. They don't care. But if your drive was in the middle of rearranging some critical file somewhere, or something, then you're boned. It's like as if someone's running down a track, and you just randomly put a brick wall in front of them. It's probably just not good. He's boned a bad word. I guess? Can I say that on the livestream? Well, I've never taken it that way, but I actually think about it, yes. Yeah, like it's pretty rude. But then no one really actually, I think it's mild, like you can see that. Yeah, I guess boned is kind of a bad word. Does it bother you when people say racket and racket? Well, if they say racket and racket, I'll never know the difference. But if they type R-A-C-K-E-T, then they're probably from America. So yeah, they spell it that way there. What do you think I should upgrade to? A 660 Ti, then get another later on? A 680 or wait and get a Titan? Out of those three options, I would go with 660 Ti and then get another later on. Yeah, I mean that's the best value. Although, I mean, you know, if you want to be like one of the cool kids and have a Titan, then you could get a Titan. But unless it's for bragging rights, I mean, let's be very clear about what Titan is. Titan is a thousand dollar video card. It has some cool features and stuff, but... Like, it's the kind of thing where, yes, it delivers the best single GPU gaming experience out there. And if you get a couple of them, it delivers hands down the best gaming experience out there. But in terms of what's the point of buying something like this, I think you'd be just as well served buying it to use it as like an impressive belt buckle as putting it in your computer because it's all about bragging rights. It's not about price to performance. I see a lot of people talking about price to performance ratio of this card. And I mean, maybe Nvidia's dastardly scheme was to get people talking about what a good price to performance ratio 690 has. Yeah, or like their other cards in general. How many comments have you seen on that? Oh, 690, 690, yeah, yeah. Yeah, 690, 690, 690, oh, this thing's no good compared to 690. I mean, remember when 690 launched, everyone was outraged. It cost a thousand dollars. Although something you and I were talking about earlier that Titan does have going for it is the frames created, like the interval between frames created. Yes. So frame, frame times as opposed to frame rates. So you know what? This is probably something that we'll either cover later on the livestream versus frame rates or maybe next week. No, I don't want to restart right now. Stupid Windows. Frame times versus frame rates. And what's the difference? And why are frame times actually in some ways more important? So a more consistent frame time is actually potentially more important than the overall frame rate. So let's move into our first real discussion topic since you've arrived. Titan, did I get paid to make Titan videos? No. Okay. What evidence do we have to support this theory? We don't have any extra money. Well, okay. That's one thing. So I'd like to hear your theory as to why... We're still sitting in a garage without a heater on? Oh, I know what happened. You're trying to type stuff in. Yeah, I'm trying to type stuff. Sorry, sorry. We're back. We're back. So yeah, okay. So there's the fact that we don't have any extra money. A previous launch of this graphics card that you're typing in that they can't see. We released a ton of videos for as well. Yes, yes, we did. So I get accused all the time, and actually it's gotten to the point where it's not actually that funny anymore. But I get accused all the time of being some kind of Nvidia... Yeah, leave this page. Fanboy or shill or whatever else you guys want to sort of call it. But let's go ahead and look at the straight facts. This is my launch coverage for the Radeon HD 6870. This was a big important launch for AMD. And one of the things that was a little bit different about it than other AMD launches is I got a card before launch, so I had time to prepare a whole bunch of content. So the advantage of having a card before launch is that I can release my videos at the time of the launch when it's actually relevant. If I get a card a week or two weeks after launch, like I did with 7970, what am I going to do? Release ten videos about it when no one cares anymore and everyone who cares has already read a review or already watched someone else's unboxing or someone else's whatever thing. So that's the reality of it. You know, could you consider something like a GTX 690 or a Titan or whatever? Could you consider that getting paid? Yeah, we keep the card. I mean, this card, this Titan, is not going anywhere. It stays in our stable of cards that we are going to be able to continue to benchmark against future cards. Could you consider that a payment of sorts? I guess. Consider we don't get to use it because it has to sit and wait for more benchmarks to be ran. Yeah, it's not like we get to sell it. So, I mean, and here, if we actually factor, how many man hours do you think you and I put into the Titan content? I almost don't even want to. Okay, so we sat down. You're a little closer than Mike. Right there is good. Actually, if you want to scooch back a little bit. There you go. We sat down before Titan was released and planned the videos that were going to come out. And the previous livestream, we were like, yeah, it's coming on Saturday. Didn't come until Monday. So we had like what videos we wanted to release and just kind of like grinned. Just like, okay, we have like two days to get all of this done. So between the two of us, I think we pulled three All-Nighters. Because you pulled two and I did one. Okay, so that whole this whole week is just kind of one gigantic like blob of not really. Is it safe to say between the two of us, it was probably a good 60 hours just to get Titan out there? I think I almost pulled 60 hours. Okay, so let's say it was a lot more than 60 hours. So if you went, okay, yeah, well, Nvidia is paying off Linus to release a bunch of videos about the Titan. Riddle me this, would I not be better off then to just go flip burgers on weekends and buy myself a Titan for $1,000? We would have made more money doing that than we did from what we made from the Titan release. So we're bringing Titan content because Titan is important. Titan is topical. It is the world's fastest single GPU card. And if you actually go back and actually look historically at an AMD graphics card that I actually got access to before launch, here is my full tour of the of the triple TV setup that I did for that, which took freaking forever to coordinate, by the way. Here is my performance review. Here is my noise and temperature testing. Here's my power consumption. Here is showing off a game on three 46 inch TVs. Here's another game with 46 inch TVs. Here's an unboxing. Here's an installation guide. Here's a sneak peek at the setup. Here's the bear card heat sink removal. Here's the length comparison. Here's another game with it. So hopefully I've made my point. If I get access to the card in a timely fashion that allows me to actually bring the content to you guys on launch day, yeah, I'm going to do everything I can to bring you guys the best content I can on launch day. Did I get a big check from Nvidia? No. Did I get a check from AMD for doing that? Absolutely not. That is not to say that we're not going to have sponsored content at some point in the future, but we're not going to have sponsored content on things where we have to be objective. So something like a video card review, it's never going to be sponsored by Nvidia or sponsored by EVGA because that's ridiculous. The Crysis 3 video is released, right? No, that's not released yet. Did you redo the voiceover? Nope. Well, that's why it's not released yet. Can I talk about it? Sure, yeah, go for it. Okay, so we have a sponsored video being released on the channel. Soon. It is not soon. It is not... Probably tonight. Can we do it tonight or no? Probably, yeah. Okay. It has nothing to do with the actual benchmarks of the card. It's actually... If you've seen the previous ones, Far Cry 3 and StarCraft... 2. StarCraft 2. We could do a benchmarking guide for StarCraft 1. We should. That would be awesome. That would be fantastic. April Fools. It's coming up. It is, yeah. Sort of. So it doesn't have the card comparison that we do for those games yet. That's coming later. But it does have our Crysis 3 walkthrough. And it's just like EVGA sponsored and then us doing our Crysis 3 walkthrough. That's all it is. It's not actually a comparison or what we think about anything or anything like that, other than Crysis, which isn't applicable and doesn't matter. Yeah, and I mean, we're comfortable taking sponsorships on things like where we would have been using the product anyway. So, for example, if we're comparing an AMD and an Nvidia graphics card, I have no problem having an Intel sponsored spot because we can just say, look, we're using Intel for our test platform, which we were going to do anyway because it's the ideal test platform. However, really interesting. I have this on my topics list. Crysis 3 seems to perform better on AMD CPUs due to how heavily multi-threaded it is. So more discussion on that later. Interesting. But in general, we use AMD for our... Intel for our test platform because it does perform better. Like Antac or whatever else. As long as it doesn't have anything to do with the benchmarks that we're currently running, it's not really a big deal. So, yeah, anyway, while we will have sponsored content at times, it's not going to be things like graphics card reviews or anything like that. So we didn't indeed get a check from Nvidia. And you'll always know because we'll always have a pre-roll or an outro or something. We're not hiding stuff. So this is awesome because I was typing up an email to myself to cover all of the livestream topics that I wanted to cover. And did Windows restart on you? And Windows went and installed a bunch of Windows updates on me. You're running Windows 8, aren't you? I am running Windows 8. So you had two days to run that restart. I haven't looked at this computer in two days. No, but what happened was – here we go, here we go, here we go. What happened was it's like – which one is it where it just says, hey, you've got – it just brings up a countdown timer. You've got five minutes to tell me not to restart. And then unlike Windows 7 where it gives you the option of delay for an hour, four hours, or a day, there is no delay for how long. You just have that amount of time? Which is – it's inconvenient for the tech savvy users who will eventually put in their updates. But I think it's probably a good thing for my mom who will have 75 Windows updates pending when I go over there. And I'm just like, ma, these aren't optional. Oh, but it says they're recommended. I'm like, yeah, recommended means just do it. It doesn't mean don't do it. So for Bing – Well, I don't want to talk about Bing. Is this not working? You run out of batteries? No? No, it's working. It's just not switching scenes. That's sort of bizarre. Okay, well, there we go. All right, so Robert Cook asks why we didn't test the Titan with any GPGPU benchmarks. We focused on the gaming aspect for now. That's not to say that there won't be a follow-up with GPGPU. I had someone send me one, the Blender one that we were thinking of running. So yeah, it might come, but later. Kevin asks what was the case. It was a Cubitech MiniCube. What does your wife think of your move to Linus Media Group? Is she supportive, concerned? I'd say a little from column A, a little from column B. What's the cheapest 2GIG 680 you've seen? I saw one for $350. That's a very good price. That's a really good price. I think we had one for $350. No, that's really cheap. I saw a 670 that was under $300, and that was a really good deal. Remember that PNY deal? Yeah. We're talking new. I don't know what they're like on the used market. I have one 660 Ti. Would it be preferable to get another as opposed to a Titan? Yeah, probably. Sound is okay. Great. Thank you. Can you put something that like slicks Ducky Q? No. You spelled Ducky wrong, so you're not winning any brownie points over there. How should I get a 3D monitor or get a dual monitor setup? You know, this is a really interesting discussion topic that I would love to have if I could move Twitter out of the way, which is not working with my hotkeys now for some reason. You recently upgraded your monitor. Why did you do what you did? What did you get? I got two 24-inch ASUS monitors. ProArt monitors? ProArt monitors. They don't give the necessary information. That's like all the information they need. ProArt. So freaking awesome. The plan was to have one directly in front of me and then for like all my main apps. I'm supposed to be looking there. All my main apps, everything that I'm currently working on, what I'm currently doing. And then on the left was supposed to be like social media and audio. I have like my two different Skypes running, music, X-Fire, Steam, all that kind of stuff running on my far left monitor. And then the idea was that I was supposed to have a monitor arm raising another smaller kind of crappier monitor up and over those two and pointing down at me so that I could monitor my two servers on that. And that was going to be awesome. I'm trying to get to like the undergrads, gimpy level setup, but not there yet. Getting there. But then that arm just sucked. Yeah. Failed. And like the table was here. I'd be like, oh yeah, bro, the bottom of your monitor is going to be here now. Which your base could already do. And I was like, well, you could reposition it. The arm? Yeah. Barely. Like that, I'm serious. Like that's, it didn't get much higher. It did get higher, but like not really. So why did you go dual monitor as opposed to some other setup? Like triple or 3D? Not interested whatsoever in surround gaming. I... Nope. Just like, nope. I do not like surround gaming at all. And 3D gives me headaches. Although when I did the 3D testing for... You had never used 3D vision with light boost. With light boost. No. Ah, there you go. It still didn't make my head feel that great. But when I played certain games, like, okay, with our Skyrim all modded out, it looked horrendous. Oh yeah, the shadows were all wrong. But we're 99% sure that's because we modded the crap out of it. 18 mods from the Steamworks stuff. Yeah. And like you can do way more than that, but just 3D's not so happy with that. But like Witcher 2, holy crap. Well, that's a 3D vision ready title though, isn't it? Yeah. I think so. Although, what did Nvidia rate it? I think it was just like fair. Fair? Really? Oh. It looks pretty good in 3D. I could be remembering this not very right. It might be performance issues though. Yeah, I think he hadn't slept much in a long time. Yeah, so if it's not fair, don't worry about it. But like I'm actually kind of interested in picking out Witcher 2 again and just like trying to play it 3D. Because it looks so good. He assumes he gets to borrow a monitor, I guess, since he just bought monitors and clearly isn't buying a 3D monitor. The assumptions this guy makes. So for me, I personally prefer a single large format monitor. He went with dual 24s, whereas I'm using a 30 inch monitor right now. And if I was going to make any changes to my setup, I would probably go with 3x2560x1440. Or if I can hold out long enough, I'm going to wait for a single 4K display. Because I don't really...for work, I like having separate monitors and that's great. But for play, I'm generally only really doing one thing at a time. I'm not copy-pasting a lot of information from one place to another. Which is the main benefit of multiple monitors to me, is I can read this while I'm working on this and monitoring that. See, my thing is I like...even if it's just for play, I like to be able to see everything at once. Like I said, I have all my... Well then why don't you get surround? But what? That doesn't make any sense. That has...I'm not even...let me finish talking. See everything at once not within the video game environment. Let me get to that in a moment, sir. First... You're grouchy. First, I want to see all...like if someone messages me on Skype and I'm in a game, I don't want to tab out to look at it. I want it to just be right there. If someone messages me on XFire and I'm in a game, I want it to be right there. If something happens on one of my servers, I want it to be right there. I want to be able to see everything at all points of time. I like that. So basically you want to be God. Yep. At least you're clear about it. And then when I'm gaming, I don't really like anything larger than a 24-inch. Because if...and even 24-inch is like kind of borderline for this. Is because if I have to like look to see something, that probably took too long. And I'm probably dead. Okay. Fine. Okay, so basically neither of us is necessarily going 3D anytime soon. However, I would definitely go 3D on a projector setup. Because I find the pixel response times on LCD are still too slow for me to really enjoy 3D. Because I can still see a little bit of crosstalk between the images. However, on a DLP projector, huh, DLP is fast enough. However, the last 3D DLP...I don't think I told you this. I've never seen the rainbow effect before on a DLP. The last one that I used, that 3D one from BenQ, hardcore saw it. So when your eyes flick from one point on the screen to another, you see a rainbow on any sharp lines. And I was really, really disappointed with that. Because what I'm waiting for is a 3D solution. An OLED 3D display would be like awesome because the response times are great. So I'm waiting for a 3D solution that I can really, really get into. You know what? Let's do Tesla Model S. So Slick wasn't there when I was prepping this. But I had a few people who were a little bit upset with how quick we were to jump on the writer. What was his name again? Broders. To jump on the writer of the article that basically kind of said Tesla Model S is not really ready for what I do. Oh, there goes my list of stuff again. Tesla Model S is not ready for prime time. And the rated range is not what they're saying it is. Where Tesla came back and said blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. They basically called it a fake. CEO of Tesla, well part-time CEO of Tesla, called it a fake and said that the writer screwed up a bunch of things. So there's more discussion to be had here. And we shouldn't have jumped on the writer so quickly because it's a week later now. And that was already going on for a little bit. And this is still a pending, like ongoing thing because there's more to it than just that. So Tesla is making claims about the range saying the writer should have driven it in this exact way and should have done this and done that. Where the writer was more approaching it from an everyman perspective. That's sort of the way that he's presenting this. He's saying, well, what if I wasn't an expert? And what if I didn't necessarily understand all the finest details of the Model S and how it should be driven for optimal range? What if I was just a dude getting in his car going on a road trip? With the point Tesla was trying to make with this demonstration being that it's a replacement for a gasoline car. So was the writer wrong? Probably. In fact, New York Times' editor has actually come out and says his imprecise and casual notes left his article open to criticism. So that's not quite an admission of fault. But, you know, she also believes that he was taking the drive in good faith. And, okay, so in Tesla's defense, there have actually been Tesla owners who have done that same drive to see if it can be done. But it's unknown how much the cold weather was impacting the battery life. And it does. And more than Tesla claims. Tesla claims only about 10 percent, which is the same as a gasoline engine. But that's been shown to be not quite true in a number of different places. So we don't know how much of it was the cold weather impact. We don't know how much of it might have been a faulty charging station. Because I don't know if you know about this, but some of the Tesla owners who tried to repeat the drive actually ran into trouble with one of the charging stations bricking and then refusing to charge a couple of the cars. And they had to reboot or update the firmware or something on the charging station and those cars for that whole convoy to get going again. So it wasn't without hiccups either. So right now, what I would like to say is I shouldn't have been hasty. And I will avoid doing that in the future. And this is still very much ongoing. So we're reserving judgment. But the writer should have been more diligent. His own editor has called him sloppy and or imprecise and casual. I don't want to make sure I use the right words because that's exactly what she said. And Tesla also needs to I think they're playing this up a little bit because there's the saying is there's no such thing as bad press. This hype for them is really good. We just jumped on board. Everybody's talking about the Tesla Model S. In our defense, we've never talked about a car ever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, in our defense, in our defense, when we jumped on this, there was not very much online about it. I had read about this like that morning and then we tried to come up with something. Yeah, we were discussing it. And we tended to side with I mean, I think naturally we're both geeks. It was it was a yeah. So it's not with the tech company. It was a Gawker post we were reading. Yeah. So so we I mean, we wanted Tesla to be sort of, you know, blameless and all of this. We want the electric car to be like I would love for the next car I buy to be electric. Yeah, that'd be awesome. Would love for that. I mean, my car right now is one hundred and sixty eight thousand kilometers on it. If I can go the kind of kilometers I'm putting on it now, if that car goes two hundred to two fifty, I could probably buy an electric car feasibly the next time I buy an automobile, which would be awesome. Which would be amazing. Because like you can buy electric cars right now. And one of my really good friends has one. But talking to him about some of the stuff that he has to go through to like make sure that everything will work. You know, it'd be so cool. Wireless charging electric cars. So you pull into it. So so like, you know, the high end homes will have a garage that's outfitted with wireless charging. So they could have like like a human proximity sensor, because I'd imagine that anything that can provide that kind of current over wirelessly would not necessarily be that safe to stand next to research Tesla, sir. Well, OK, besides that, but has that ever actually been implemented in anything? There you go. Someone will figure it out. I don't know. I haven't researched enough, but someone will figure it out. Maybe someone will figure it out. Let's hope. Let's hope. And and I mean, if someone can figure out how to meter it, then great. Until then, it's not a conversation we're having. So we're going to be looking at conventional conventional wireless charging. So if they had something like a proximity sensor, so there's no one nearby and it was self-contained in such a way that I don't know. You know, you put lead on all sides of it except just in the very floor. And when you drive in, it detects your car is there and just something like that, something like that. Or even I mean, who knows? I mean, by then it might be even cheaper and easier to build like a robotic arm that just detects your cars nearby, finds the outlet and then latches on. Exactly. Like, I don't know. I actually don't know. This is us just kind of talking about things that are kind of stupid at this point. But, you know, I'd love for that. You pull into your garage, your car charges. And yeah, because you don't want to have to think about the plug every time, because then the one time you forget about the plug, you can't drive to work in the morning and your boss is like, you're fired. Yeah. That's not very fun. You're fired just for talking about not being at work. That's the first time today. Which, by the way, you weren't at work for the beginning of the live stream, so you were hardcore fired for that. Like, so fired. Okay, we've got one more Twitter question here that I did want to get to. Favorite piece of... I'm trying. I'm trying to scroll down. I know they don't come with dust out of the box. Come on, Dan. Favorite piece of technology you've purchased ever? That's a great question. I'm going to go first. And I'm going to narrow the scope to computer technology, because that's mostly what we cover here. So a lot of the stuff that I have, I didn't purchase per se. So it's, I mean, probably almost everything you see on the table behind me was samples provided by manufacturers for us to do testing on, for us to make videos about, for us to just, you know, kind of talk about, so that I'll actually know what I'm talking about. I mean, it's in their best interest for me to understand their products well enough to talk about them. I think sort of at this point we can all agree on that. So basically give us a Tesla. Yeah, basically. Basically, we're the only credible source, so you might as well give us one of the cars so we can check that. In all seriousness, would we have time to do a Tesla? I think if they gave us a Tesla Model S, we could probably... Not even New York Times got to keep the car. No, we'd have to. Obviously we'd have to keep the car. Yeah, I think this is even stupider than the conversation we were having about the garage charging. By the way, stupider is apparently becoming a word. Yeah, I know. I heard this from my mom. She's one of those English major artsy people who is, of course, super offended about this. But, yep, stupider is apparently making its way to becoming a word. I mean, what's next, funner? Seriously, that's the stupidest thing I ever heard, which also isn't a word. And still probably isn't a word. Did you say stupiderst? Stupidest. Stupidest. Also is not a word. It's more stupid and yeah, or most stupid. That's pretty much the only way that that can be done. What was I even talking about? Right, favorite. So my favorite technology piece that I ever actually bought was my Athlon 64 X2 4400 Plus. That thing was freaking awesome. Not only was it faster tangibly in benchmarks, or measurably in benchmarks, than anything else on the market by just a landslide, with the exception of the 4800 Plus, which was slightly faster than the 4400 Plus. What core was that? That wasn't claw hammer, was it? I don't remember anymore. It's been way too long. Holy crap, no, claw hammer was before that. Claw hammer was my 3500 Plus. I love the name of them before. I know, back then they were so cool. Sledgehammer was the original FX I believe. You know how every graphics card used to come with the most epic box art? Yes. It was just so cool. And now they're like super conservative. I actually prefer the conservative box art. Really? Screw you old man. C'mon, pallet frog? Screw you old man. I mean remember MSI's and Asus' old cards where they just had weird characters and armor on the front? It was amazing. That's not even a game. It's not even from anything. It's not from anything. It's just fantastic. It's like these companies had a dedicated guy on staff who just drew random crap to put on their box art. It looks like it could be from a game. Good enough. Ridiculous. It was cool. Anyway, the 4400 plus changed the way I used my computer in a way that probably nothing else has since then. SSD was close for me. In fact SSD was probably a similar quantum leap in the responsiveness of a desktop computer. But unlike that processor, that move from single to dual core, unlike that, SSD did not improve gaming in any way. Or okay, load times are slightly lower. But it didn't improve frame rates. So that processor improved frame rates in a tangible way. And it just destroyed anything else on the market from a multitasking perspective. So it made it so I was actually legitimately able to use my computer to do multiple things at a time in a way that just wasn't possible up till then. So in terms of, and I mean I bought processors before and after that, my Q6600, my E6600, my 3500 plus, my 3200 plus, my 3000 plus. For those of you, oh yeah, for those of you who figure I'm some kind of Nvidia or Intel fanboy, yeah that's right. That was five AMD processors in a row. I replaced my 4400 plus with an Optron 165. And that was finally when I went Intel after that. The first like three years. Oh, that's six in a row because I had a 2500 plus before that. The first three or four processors that I either bought for myself or spec'd for other people in my family were all AMD as well. So out of all of the chips that I've ever bought, the 4400 plus has got to be my favourite. Okay, have you had any time to think about your favourite piece of technology? For me, you picked a couple. So for me, I'm going to go with two. One of them was my 8800 GTS. How did I pick a couple? I went with 4400 plus. Yeah, and then you talked about SSD. 8800 GTS? Okay, go ahead. Just talk at the camera. Every system I had before I built the system that had the 8800 GTS in it was like just dog slow in everything that I did. Mainly games. So at this point in time I was trying to play WoW and I was trying to tank at about one to three FPS. And that was just kind of ridiculous. I would go in vent and I'd have two vent windows open and another one would be with one of my friends that was always in the group with me. And he would be like, hey, you have to move in this direction because he knew I couldn't see it yet. And then I would move accordingly. That was ridiculous. And then once I got my 8800 GTS, it just crushed everything. And we still did a jokes benchmark the other day and it ran Far Cry 3, which is just absolutely fantastic. That's so cool. It's so cool. And it's still running today on some dude's system. It went from me to a friend to another friend to another guy and it's still running. That's just awesome. G80 was kind of beast. G80 was a game changer. So cool. And then my other one and your... I had two G80s. Screw you, man. My other one, which you're probably going to frown at and revolt over, is... You're preemptively fired, but go ahead. And I didn't actually use it way too much, but I enjoyed it and it was fun and I liked it because of... Really? That stupid phone? What stupid phone? Oh, I thought you were going to go with a phone. Okay, go ahead. Nexus S? Yeah. I love that phone, but no. Okay, okay. Go ahead. No way. I'm trying to guess things that I would be bothered by. I'm just going to keep talking about it so you can hopefully guess. Because I liked, with this release, where I thought PC stuff was going. And now that Oculus Rift is coming out, that should be a hint. I'm even more excited. And once they... Like, right now, the pre-purchases are for the developer version. Once they release pre-purchases for the consumer version, I'm just going to jump right on that because I'm super excited for that. Xbox Kinect? Nope. Kinect? What? No. And he didn't technically buy that. I gave him one, which he wrecked. Yeah, good work. Nia. I'm just shut up. Okay, you're like double-fired. That's like four firings already. It was cool, it was fun, and just because you can't use it doesn't mean that it sucked. I was able to use it. You said you could barely do anything. I released a video where I used it. Probably poorly. I used it. I used to play COD with it. Why? Because it was fun and interesting. It's interesting to have poorer control than it... okay, okay. It actually wasn't that bad. Fine, fine. So why are you so down on the Peregrine Glove then? It's slower. How is it slower than stupid Nia? You're sitting here going, and there's too much change in between fingers. They can't even see your hand. See, that shows you how much you know. There's too much change between fingers. The Peregrine Glove, you have your thumb as an actuator and then a whole bunch of different touch points along your fingers. So here, here, and here. Your hands are too big. And you have to touch... The distance is smaller. Bam. It's still slower than just clicking on a keyboard. But you have access to more potential actuation points. It does something, what, like 15 commands or something stupid like that? It has access to more actuation points than a keyboard. Sorry, what? Yeah, like within easy reach of, say for example, people who have small hands. Okay, well I don't have small hands, so I don't care. And maybe it's not comfortable to have your arm up like this on a keyboard. So, buy a wristband. Okay, so really, really. Or raise your chair. Honestly, Nia was faster than a Peregrine or a keyboard. Yes. Not a keyboard. Well then, why are you... okay, okay. Awesome. This is perfect. I love it when he does this. So why are you down on... I've done this like once. Why are you down on Peregrine for being slower than a keyboard? If your favorite piece of technology of all time... That's what they ask. I said one of them. One of the two, either way. And I said because I liked where it was pushing the industry. It didn't push anything. And I said I didn't use it that much. You know the Russian has my Nia still. If you'd like I can obtain it, re-obtain it for you. I have mine. You have a Nia, you bought a Nia? We've talked about this before on the stream. Shut up. Wow. It was like 60 bucks. That you'll never get back. And I don't want it back because I enjoyed it. Okay. Well, viewers, I'm really disappointed in you for asking questions that make him sort of talk about phenomenally ridiculous stuff. You can play games with a freaking glove is a good idea. Other than PowerGlove, which is amazing. I think Peregrine looks alright. I'd try it. Looks alright? It had nothing to do with what it looks like. I don't mean looks alright as in like the artistic design. I'm going to press A and then go over here and press another macro and just try to be quick by doing this and Kerbal Tunnel. I would probably better than a keyboard. You know what? I don't want to talk about this anymore. What's your all-time favorite motherboard? That's not a bad question either actually. All-time favorite motherboard. I don't know. I'm going to be like kind of bizarre and I'm going to go with the P800E Deluxe. He has no idea what I'm talking about. 10 points if you even know what platform that's for. Nope. Yeah, it's a 478 board. That thing was a freaking brick. And I don't mean brick like that. I was like that's a terrible. Okay, it was a rock. It was a rock. What's the difference between a rock and a brick anyway? Because brick is used as a term for things that don't work anymore and can act as a brick in building something. Well, rock could be used for building something. Stonewall. Stonewall U with this argument. Bam. What? That's a term. I know. It's kind of sad. You know what? And I didn't use it much. I actually only used it for some random suicide runs on a, what was the stepping? It was an M0 or something or like a, it was some ridiculous stepping of a P4 2.4C. So that was a Northwood Core that I pulled out of an office machine that I replaced and they were just like, yeah, whatever. Just keep the old computer. I was like, holy crap. Do you have any idea what this is? They didn't care. So it was, it was like a legendary stepping of the 2.4C Northwood. And that thing blew. It did like 3.5 plus gigahertz or something like that. I think I got it up near 3.5, 3.8, somewhere in that range with some crappy VanTech air cooler. And part of it was that that board was a beast. It was absolutely solid. Follow up to that would probably be the A8N32 SLI Deluxe. That board was so far ahead of its time. I believe that one was dual 16X SLI, although I could be wrong. It had heat pipe cooling. It had silent cooling. Back then everything had whiny annoying fans on them. I've had a number of, I've had a number of good boards. I think those, those two are probably my favorites. Do you have a favorite motherboard? You had an Enforce board. That's probably it, right? No. Okay. I, although that, that Enforce board got so many really, really bad reviews and then I had no problems with it whatsoever. Fair enough. I even wrote a poem about how bad my experience was with it. I overclocked on it. I ran full DIMMs, which you for some reason thought was miraculous. I did everything I ever wanted to on that board and it didn't have a problem. Populating all DIMMs on an Nvidia Enforce 6 series board was like unheard of. Had no problem. As someone who tried to build like quite a number of high performance systems on those boards. And those were like beast dominators and I was running an extreme edition that was like insanely overclocked. What do you think about running a graphics card without the plastic shroud on it? This guy says he's getting better temperatures. I'd say maybe it works for some cards, but I wouldn't recommend it for rear exhaust cards. And some, yeah, and some like specific build situations too. Wireless charging stations in development. That's good. Great. I have, I'm sorry man, I don't know what exactly those models are, but it looks like two 24 inches and a 23 inch. Should I switch that for another 24 inch? And if you do do that, then yes, I would switch out your 7850 for something more powerful. Matching models are nice. Yeah, it's kind of a nice thing to have everything look the same. Advantages and disadvantages of SLI and Crossfire. You know what? I've probably covered that a lot of times in the past. I'm going to leave that one off. Have you tried the light boost hack on your 140, 40 Hertz monitor? I haven't. I don't have a 140 or 4 Hertz monitor. I only got that one to do an unboxing and then I was done with it. But what I will do is I will email that tweet to myself and then we will go ahead and check that out. Here, I have more topics. So PS3. Have you checked out the PS3 specs and all that? PS4? Yeah, that one. Who cares? It doesn't matter anyway. Since the initial leak, have they changed? Like a while back? There's official specs. Yeah, yeah, there's official specs. What do you live under? A brick? Well, for the last week, I've worked almost the entire day working on Titan. Screw you. The only two news topics I have for this week are from this morning when I was prepping Netlink Weekly because I have not been online at all. Forum mods, if you're watching, hello. I'm sorry I haven't been on for a week. I've literally been sitting here benchmarking Titan for the entirety of the week. Won't block used games. Yeah, okay. So let's talk about this very briefly. I don't know the specs. Oh, someone says stick to computers, my friend. Cars are a whole different thing. I think that is probably the most insightful statement that I have ever heard ever. Very astute. Way to go, Jeremy. You are the man. Indeed, cars are a whole different thing from computers. Although, we're going to see more integration moving forward than maybe you would think is possible. For example, cars may not run on gasoline in the future, which would make them more like computers. For example, cars are going to be chock full of features like GPS and MP3 players and email capability and SMS texting, which actually makes them closer to phones and computers than you might actually think. So who knows? Cars may be the domain of Linus Tech Tips not that long from now. Maybe at some point we'll be overclocking cars. Yeah, maybe we'll be overclocking cars. That would actually be kind of cool. I mean, you know what? You could probably overclock a car as simply as putting a beefier battery in it and throwing a beefier electric motor in it. I can't wait until there's some gear head that's like, yeah, I'm going to overclock my GT 780 Hemi. Yeah. That'd be sweet. I mean, you know what? And the kind of processing that's going to go on in a car to make it self-driving would actually make it more computer than car. I would make that argument. Once it's electric and it's self-driving. Yes. Then what's actually left to call it a car? It's basically a computer on wheels. Beast. Bam. Bam. Bam. Jeremy just got told. Linus Car Tips. Yeah. Linus Car Tips Hardcore. I've actually already reserved that channel name. Linus Car Tips 2016. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's talk PlayStation 4. So PlayStation 4 is going to have, okay, first of all, okay, we're going to go kind of in order. So the CPU is an x86-64 AMD Jaguar 8-core CPU. So a couple of things. So people seem to be really excited about how games are going to be more multi-threaded now because it's got a multi-core CPU in the next generation console. You know what? The last generation consoles had multi-core CPUs too. Okay. Xbox's processor is triple core. Cell is what? Five core or something stupid like that? I think it's a five core. We didn't get better multi-threading support except Crysis 3, which is like released now when like those consoles are going away. So I don't know. I don't know where this idea comes from. One thing I am happy to see, though, is x86 compatibility because it means the flexibility of that operating system for not necessarily the flexibility for Sony because who cares about their flexibility? They could do whatever they wanted with it. But the flexibility for guys like hackers and coders who want to get in there and tinker with it, that's pretty exciting to me. Also, the ability to potentially have easier cross-platform development for things that are going to run on PS4, computer, Intel-powered phones, tablets. Maybe this has something to do with Bungie's project. I have no idea. That they're just not really talking about, oh, what is it called again? I'm not going to remember the name, but it's fairly hush-hush right now. As far as I've heard, they just released a like two and a half minute kind of big teaser trailer thing. So maybe there's more information out there about it now. But Bungie has this huge project because you know they bumped Halo 4 to another developer. And then Bungie was like, no, we're developing, we're focusing our entire company on this huge new project. And they keep on bringing this thing about how it's going to unfold over 10 years and like all this crazy stuff. Sounds like a console project then because PS4, if it doesn't last 10 years, I'll be very surprised. Yeah, like so. Looking at how the life cycles of these consoles keep extending. Just getting bigger and bigger. Okay, so there you go. The GPU will be 1.84 teraflops, AMD next generation Radeon based graphics engine. So this sounds an awful lot to me like probably somewhere in the neighborhood of a GTX 660 in terms of power, like a 7850, 7870. It's cool that consoles are getting over a teraflop when not way too long ago we were talking about the teraflop barrier. However, just to be clear, you know, teraflop barrier has been in the rear view mirror for a little while now. This card is a 4.5 teraflop card. So for those posting on videos on YouTube, there seems to be an awful lot of people doing this, that PlayStation 4 is going to revolutionize HD graphics and leave the PC in the dust and blah, blah, blah. No, it isn't. That won't happen, although it's way easier for game developers to optimize things for a system that doesn't change. So graphics will look a lot better in relation. Yeah, it'll look alright. And apparently it's going to have 8 gigs of DDR5. So that to me sounds potentially 4K ready. So the graphics might actually not look that much better in terms of how many triangles and in terms of the pixel processing power, but textures will be possible to be loaded into the memory to even run at greater than HD resolution. So that's pretty exciting as well. It's still going to have a hard disk. And I've seen some comments that people were disappointed that it didn't have an SSD, but... I load all my games onto a hard disk. And we had this discussion actually earlier on this livestream completely by accident, and SSD contributes nothing to your gaming performance. So game load sits in RAM. Game load sits in RAM. It's not like the console needs to be moved around a whole lot unless you're sort of a hardcore LAN gamer with your console. Like once the hard drive parts... Yeah. You're probably fine. It's probably fine. Yeah, read-only optical drive, that sort of figures. Blu-ray again. Super speed USB 3, great. Gigabit ethernet. 802.11n, wireless. That's a little bit disappointing, especially given how we've seen AC outperforms n. But AC is so expensive right now. And they'll probably have dongles considering they have USB 3 ports. Yeah, and I think they're targeting, I think it was $450 for the price. Wow. Very aggressive. Well, though that could end up being completely revised or that rumor could be completely wrong. Wasn't PS3 like a grand? No, I think it was $599 or something like that. But like not to buy the like super terrible core edition, like to actually get a good system. Well, no, the early PS3s, none of them were bad. They all had backwards compatibility, for example. Okay, I know with Xbox they had the core edition. Yes, Xbox had core edition. Yeah, and if you bought the core edition it was like... It didn't have a hard drive. Didn't have a hard drive. Yes. Made it fail basically. You couldn't play a whole bunch of games on it. But the good news is it probably died and got replaced with a hard drive model later. Rendering. Woo! Yay! That was the strategy all along. HDMI output, of course. Analog output still, which is, I mean, probably necessary because not every... Let's have a work on tons of stuff. I mean, North America is fine and interesting with HDTVs costing $699, $599. But there's lots of territories where lots of people are still running analog. So apparently it's coming this year. They're not going to block used games. And I think that's pretty much all we have to say about it. Isn't it like April or something? You know what? When PS4 comes out we should do like a marathon live stream of not lining up for PS4. And all of the better things that we're doing instead. Oh my god. Yeah. That would actually be kind of amazing. So as soon as... I'm 100% down. As soon as we hear about a PlayStation 4 lineup we should just go do something that's way more fun. And just stream it. Like play PC games. We should go to the PlayStation 4 lineup with like a truck or something. Yeah. And power our computers off it and have a PC LAN in the very front of the PS4 lineup. We should just have a LAN at a PS4 lineup. Yeah. And we'll be like, yeah, you know those graphics that you're waiting for so that you can go experience? We have to play games that are going to be like launch titles if they're on PC already? I really doubt it. Probably not. Probably because there won't be any launch titles. Woo! Wow! Crush! If it's anything like PS3. I think Watch Dogs is going to be a launch title, which is actually pretty cool. Okay, whatever. But yeah, I understand what you're saying. Oh, maybe they'll have another Final Fantasy where you run down a corridor. I miss good Final Fantasy games so much. They were so good. They were so consistently awesome. I tried. Five, six, and seven were so good. I gotta go back and play some. I tried 13. Did I tell you about that? Oh, ugh. Why? Why even bother? I had it. A friend of mine came over and he left and kind of left it at my house. So I was like, I'm going to try 13. Which console is 13 for? That's the... That's the... Okay, yeah. And the most fascinating thing about it was there was always this little button peeking out from the corner that I just kind of ignored, which was like the... I don't remember what it actually was, but it's just basically like the auto play button. And at some point I'm like, just what is this? Because I'm just going through and scripting my battles and I'm doing pretty alright. And I clicked that and I'm like, wow, you kind of did all the right stuff. I'm like, really? What is this? So I just kept on like, wait, wait, this literally plays the game for me. It turned into this big rolling cinematic with me pressing buttons derped out on the couch. I mean, even the most strategy heavy Final Fantasy games, like some of the earlier ones where you actually had to... In random encounters you might actually die. Even some of those ones, there was pretty much only one right move. And any kind of AI that's not powered by chimpanzees is probably going to do just fine. So I mean, realistically, could they have written an auto play button for Final Fantasy III? Yes. Should they have? Yeah. No! It really doesn't enrich the gaming experience. No. Oh, we have really exciting news. Fractal Design is going to be joining us for the livestream next week. So Josh from Fractal Design is going to be positioned in between me and Slick. And I mean, if you want to get closer to me and have him on the other side, that's fine too. But yeah, we're really excited about that. We'd love for you guys to go ahead and actually if we could have someone watching the livestream, do us a huge favour and in the computer cases section, if you could sticky it after the livestream, go ahead and... Okay, please don't six of you go create them now. But go ahead... Oh, we've got a bunch of mods. Please guys, bring this up. Merge the topics. Merge the topics. But we'd love for you guys to post any questions that you'd like Josh to address about Fractal Design cases or power supplies or other products. And yeah, we're going to have a really great discussion. We're not going to be limited to just Fractal Design talk though. We're going to do our usual thing with Twitter Q&A. And you guys will be welcome to send in questions on Twitter. And we'll try and get to them if we can. But sometimes it can be a bit of a challenge. But yeah, we're really, really excited about that. I think that's going to be freaking awesome. I'm just messaging myself so I don't forget about that. Okay, good work. You're unfired once. Yay. So... Now I don't get fired during the day. I only get fired during livestreams. That's true. I haven't fired you at all this week. Mind you, you've been working really hard this week on stuff that I frankly didn't want to do. Yeah, he did almost all of the benchmarking for Titan. What did I do? The only things that I didn't do was half of the 3770K benchmarks over there. So you ran three games? No, I did some of the 1080p benchmarks while you were sleeping. Didn't you notice when you came back a bunch of the benchmarks were run? Not that many. Well, some of them were. And I did some of the 3D benchmarks as well. Yes, you did. You did one platform for 3D. One platform for 3D. And then I think I did a couple of them on 1080p. So there. Bam. I did at least... Or like I finished one and then finished Titan or something like that. Yeah, that might have been it. Don't worry. Slicks and my testing methodologies are still very, very, very, very close. So it doesn't matter who ran the benchmarks. I trust them either way. We record our own benchmarks and show them to each other. So that's where the idea for showing our benchmarks came from. Because we do that to each other anyways. So we're like, hey, we might as well share it with everybody. That way you guys can test benchmark. Although you know what I found out something funny about your StarCraft 2 benching methodology? That map isn't available in some regions. Oh, that's unfortunate. Yeah. So people are like, oh, I can't find it. And then someone else jumped in. They're like, yeah. I mean, the good news is StarCraft 2 kind of runs on anything. So who cares? Sorry, guys. Just... Yeah. Sorry for being noob at StarCraft 2. What was I supposed to know? Oh, man. Jeremy's comment is so good. Cars are different from computers. I love it. Um... Hard to say. I tend to prefer single GPU solutions. So Alex, I'd probably pawn it off and get a 670. Just built my 5800k PC in a Roseville Challenger running stock graphics. What should I upgrade? Lots of things? Sorry. I love how he lists his DVD drive. Get a 7850 or something like that. Best tech livestream. Aw, thank you. Yay. Is ColdSC a thing? Oh. Okay. Yay, brother. Thank you. Hi, Richard. I agree with Slick. I knew I'd heard of it before, but I didn't know why. I agree with Zyavanesus ProArt as well. Yes! They're amazing. I'm so sold now. Before I bought them, I was like, uh, I don't know if this is worth it. Corey gets a major gold star for just being awesome. Getting to listen to the livestream with my Zonar STX Awesome Soundcard and typing with the new Ducky. He tweeted at me earlier. I don't know what day it was because this whole week is one gigantic blob. Saying that he got that soundcard and got that keyboard. And I was like, yes! Joshua Kuhn had a great question. Can you guys explain how to achieve positive airflow inside a case during the livestream tonight? We'd love to. So I'm going to go get some props while you get started. I was just going to grab the C70, and you're going over there, so I don't know what you're doing. No, I'm... Well, no, you don't need a case. Just kind of explain it. I'm looking for something. The idea of positive airflow is to create a directional flow through your case so that you don't get an insane amount of dust. And I believe it helps with temperatures as well, right? It's just kind of generally good all around. It's generally good to not have the... Well, they can't hear me because of the shotgun light, but it's generally good to have positive airflow because less dust means less temps. Okay, yeah. So what he's generally saying is that it helps with dust, which in relation helps with temps. Because if you don't have everything caked in dust, it's not going to get as hot. Where's all that Silverstone stuff that they sent when we did the SG09 build? They can't hear you. Oh, well. I think it should be out in the hallway. Is it really? Probably. Because they sent... You know what? I guess it doesn't matter that much. Okay, whatever, guys. So I was trying to find a fan filter because one of the key things about creating positive air pressure in your case is that you should have filtered intakes on your case. In fact, you know what? One of these cases probably has a filter. There you go. Yeah. Okay. So here's a filter from the bottom of a Corsair C70. So positive air pressure means... Okay, okay. So your case has lots of openings. It has intakes and it has exhausts. So a lot of those openings have fans in them, or they can have fans populated in them, or whatever else. This is so cool story, bro. Your case has these holes. Look, I'm going somewhere with this. And in these holes you can put these fans. And these fans, they can spin. He's trying to get fired right now. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to give him the satisfaction. No one's going to understand this, but this is a helmet. Yeah. That reference will actually never be understood by anyone. Is it not being released? No. That part won't be released. Oh no, it might. It might go in the 840 Pro 1. Yes. Okay. Anyway, back on topic. So your case has lots of holes in it, some of which are the size that fans will go in. Some of them could be little cracks or imperfections in the metal, or even screw holes that aren't populated. And those are a major dust problem. So when you have a case, where I mean lots of cases these days have top exhaust and rear exhaust, and what people tend to do is they tend to go, oh, that's really close to my CPU socket. So I should move the heat away from my CPU by installing all my fans there. And the case can just passively intake air, which it will. But the problem with that is that it will passively intake air, not only from fan holes, but also from little cracks in the bottom of the case near the floor or near the tabletop where it can suck in dust. And when you suck in dust, it's much more likely to settle somewhere in a negative air pressure environment than it is if you have positive air pressure inside your case. So positive air pressure means more intake fans than exhaust fans. So net-net, more air coming into the case than going out. So those fans that are exhausting actually get a little bit of a performance improvement because the air is being pushed towards them already when they exhaust. And what it also does is it means that all those little holes in the case, whether it's a seam around the edge of your side panel or whatever else, are not going to be sucking in dust. You're essentially letting it float out instead of letting it float in. Yes. So you're not sucking up dust. So that's why for a positive air pressure setup to actually get the most benefit, you want intakes, more intakes than exhausts, and you want those intakes to be filtered. Because if you're using positive air pressure but you're just sucking in dusty air anyway, then yeah, you won't get dust quite as fast as if you're sucking air in through the bottom of the case where there is more dust settling, but you will eventually get dust buildup. A positive air pressure, a positive air flow, whatever you want to call it, whatever. Positive pressure inside your case with filters will give you a near dust-free PC operation experience. And fan filters are really easy to install. And if you're worried about them being as hard as they are to install, which is not hard, you can get these super easy, super intuitive fan filters. Yeah, that's why I was thinking of the Silverstone stuff. Yeah, that just like magnetically clip on. So you can just be like, bam, fan filter. Yeah, so those are really cool. Another sort of cheap DIY solution is to use back-cante hose. Yes. I've actually heard of that. I've never done that, but I've heard of that. Yeah, that's a thing. The stream is choppy apparently. It's an issue with the Stupid Aver Media card. I talked about it at the beginning. Resetting it fixes it for a little while. So there you go. Wow, we have a lot of viewers tonight. Thank you, guys. Yay, midterms are over. Oh my goodness, it's 10.30. The livestream is technically over. I don't think we've even... We went long last time. Yeah, I guess we're going to have an extended livestream. No, we don't go long every time. You know, sometimes we rush. Get it? Get it? Double meaning! Yeah! It's horrible. We're past our time. It doesn't matter about quality jokes anymore. Yeah, that's right. This is the after part. Where's that laptop? What are you scrambling for? Oh, I'm looking for the S7. Did you move it over there? No, you did. Dang it. I was wondering why. Remember when I was like, I can go get the S7. Officially my favourite laptop ever, by the way. I love this thing, Aspire S7. The one thing that I have to complain about is that the touchpad is a little bit on the... A little bit on the laggy side. And then it's multi-touch and I'm not really used to it, especially on Windows 8. You've also had some unlucky times with the sleep button on the side. Oh yeah, yeah. Is it a high-speed button or sleep button? It's sleep. It's just sleep. And you know what? It doesn't bother me that much because it's so fast. Like, it's SSD based. It's Windows 8. So there you go. I press the button for sleep just now. So it goes to sleep. I press the button right now to wake it up. So if I accidentally put the laptop into sleep, it takes exactly... Oh, actually, I don't know if it had finished going into sleep. Oh yeah, there it goes. It takes exactly this long to sort of get back to full functionality. So it's really not that bad. And it's the kind of thing I can get used to. Oh, we haven't forgotten the Windows 8 giveaway. We are going to do that. Do we have a question? No. Do you want to formulate a question while I talk about the HTC One? Sure. Is this going to be something about our show? No, no. Who cares? Come up with a question. Something preferably that they can't easily Google. So maybe something related to our videos. Okay. Okay. So the HTC One. I would like to share a video with you guys about the HTC One. So we've already seen the HTC One S and the One X, which are some pretty high-end Android phones. Well, the One S isn't really that high-end. It's more like a mainstream Android phone. Well, okay, enthusiast mainstream. You know what? Whatever. I'm going to give up on categorizing it. It's a pretty nice phone. Metal backing, beautifully constructed. The HTC One takes that and completely blows it out of the freaking water. It's not even on the same playing field. The One is HTC's sort of envisioning. This is all HTC talk right now. This is all from the press release. I haven't got my hands on one yet, so yeah. But they're saying this is the reimagining based on what they would really love for a phone to be in an ideal world. So, oh shoot, I don't think I'm going to be able to sign into that email that I sent to myself. What about this? Don't read it. Sure, yeah, that's not a bad one. I don't know if anyone's actually going to be able to answer that though, so come up with an alternate. Okay. Just a lot of them are too easy. I'm really worried about, in case you guys were wondering, the streaming live, streaming live, yeah. The reason that the live stream was so choppy last week because I accidentally hit a hotkey that was a local recording hotkey for Twitch. So I was live streaming and local recording at the same time, which was causing performance issues. So I'm really afraid to type anything into a browser right now because I can't remember what my hotkey is. But it's okay because I just emailed to myself the list of the things that are the link to this. So the One changes a few things fundamentally. It has a unibody design, which apparently, according to HTC, is taking 200 machine hours per chassis to machine this thing. Okay. So I mean, imagine that. I mean, the cost of a CNC machine is thousands and thousands of dollars. So, you know, any time on a CNC machine, any rental time is expensive. Not only that, but the blades do dull. They do wear out. So you've got incremental additional cost in terms of blades. So I don't know if HTC is outsourcing the manufacturing or I don't know if they've actually invested in the machinery it takes to build these on their own. But these phones are freaking expensive to make, not even completely ignoring the hardware specs. Hardware specs, nothing to do with it. No, that's boring. Nothing to do with it. It's just an expensive slab of metal already. Totally custom finished. Then it's a very high-end phone. It has a 1080p screen with a 1080p 4.7 inch screen, which is some ludicrous pixel density. Like I think it's 446 pixels per inch or something sort of just ridiculous like that. I'll have to look it up. It's in my notes. It also pretty much reimagines the way that phone cameras are going to be done. And I hope that this is a trend. I really do. There's a really interesting article actually on Enantech right now. It's on the front page. Talking about how not only is there no benefit to this race to more megapixels, particularly on phones, because they're limited by how big the sensor is, they're limited by how big the optical stack can be, because it has to fit in a phone. It may even be detrimental. So having larger pixels on a CMOS sensor versus smaller pixels to actually capture the light may actually be beneficial because it'll give you more dynamic range. So that is to say it'll capture more detail in the blacks and more detail in whites in the image. It'll give you a crisper overall image. It'll give you better low light performance in general. And just is pretty much better in every possible way because we were at the point where on the sensors, the tiny sensors that they're able to put in phones, cramming that many pixels into it was getting to the point where the pixels weren't much bigger than the size of a light wavelength. So like of a light, what's it called? Help me, waveform. Thank you. You didn't say that. He didn't say that. But I thanked him anyway. Did you? Oh, I didn't even hear you. Oh, you didn't say it? Whatever. So the point is that it wasn't even able necessarily to make use of all of those pixels. So it was actually oversampling the image just because they could jam more pixels into the space. There was actually no benefit from a physics standpoint. The AnandTech article is excellent. It goes into much more detail than I am capable of because I don't have the same kind of optical science background that the writer of that article does. So do check it out. It's awesome. But anyway, HTC is going with a lower aperture lens, which is better. That means it has clearer optics. So it'll capture more light compared to pretty much any other phone out there. So it's an F2.0. They're going with larger pixels, fewer larger pixels, and they've added a mode that is basically kind of like taking little video snippets instead of pictures. So they're calling that, I don't remember what they're calling that, but that sounds kind of cool too. Not the kind of thing I would necessarily use. I'd probably go still image or I'd take a longer video if I feel like it. But 1080p screen, 468 pixels per inch, 200 hours on the machine, game changing. F2.0 aperture lens and larger pixels. And finally, front facing speakers. Why did this take so long? You kind of have to pick one. Okay, fine. Why did this take so long? Why does my iPad 2 have one speaker on the rear bottom of the tablet? Why does this 8X phone have one speaker at the bottom of the phone? Do I ever watch content on it like this? No. Does it already have a speaker on this side? Yes. Why did this take so long? So they're calling it Boom Sound and it's different from their Beats by Dre, which will still be in there. Or rather, not by Dre anymore, I don't think. But their Beats audio, which will still be integrated in the phone through the headphone jack, presumably. But it will actually have two front facing speakers to work in stereo the way that sound should be. Because how often, tell me this guys, how often have you been watching content on your phone and cupped your hand behind the phone to reflect the sound at yourself? Another thing that I do is I do alarms on my phone for waking up. So I always have to remember to flip it upside down so that I can actually hear it. Because if I lay it down like this, it's all muffled and I'm like, well, okay, I just missed my alarm. And you're late for work, which happened at least once this week, I think. I don't even care. I worked so much overtime. I think what we really want to do when we're designing a phone is... You know what? Do you want to... whatever. Do you want to monitor? No, don't worry about it. No, no, it's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. Okay, so this is the video I wanted to show you guys where HTC is talking about what went into the unibody design of this particular phone. So... The dream was really a zero-gap construction to come up with a part that has no heartbreaks. No, I'm actually just going to turn him off and I'm going to talk. So he's basically talking about how they want to completely change the way that phone design is done and then Jethro comes in. They're kind of going for that Apple-esque approach with this video, which is, you know, whatever. I mean, hey, if Apple does something, it's probably not necessarily... Okay, okay, okay. Check this out. Check this out. So they custom designed the tools to build this phone. You can see the water jets that are cooling the phone itself. So it's made out of a single block of aluminum, unibody design. And I mean, I'd like to go back to that frame there for a second, because this should give you guys some idea why this takes 200 hours on a machine right there. It is not... Okay, a unibody design is not as simple as... Come on. Go YouTube. A unibody design is not as simple as just taking a brick of aluminum and like hollowing it out. They have to actually build a chassis that they can mount a whole bunch of stuff in. And I mean, if one mistake gets made, it gets thrown away. And aluminum is not cheap and, and, and all this stuff. The complexity that goes into this is just outstanding. I'm really looking forward to getting my hands on one of these. The weight of it will probably feel really nice. I love the weight of like the iPhone 4. Like I like heavy phones, so I'm super excited about this. That's one thing actually, randomly enough, I liked about the Titan. It actually feels like something when you pick it up. So here he says some other random junk. Here, ah, yes. So this is a custom process that they used to get the back of it to be in a very sort of natural curvature sort of shape. Here they're showing some of the final finishing on the phone. So spec, spec is, fine details, diamond cut edges. So spec is fine and interesting and all that. But this is a truly premium device that I'm really, really excited about. And this is actually, I don't know if I've even told Slick this yet. Okay, I'm done watching this video now. This is actually the phone that I'll be using for my 30-day Android trial. You did. You did go over this. Okay, so I am going to do a 30-day iSwitched. I think I'm done with Windows Phone 8. One thing that I'll be doing at the end of my 30 days with Windows Phone 8 is I will be giving my HTC 8X away to someone in the audience. So we'll either do that on a live stream or we'll do that, you know what, let's do it on the live stream. Let's make all 200 people who have tuned out since we were at our peak regret not listening to it. We're doing it right now? No, no, we're not going to do it now. Okay. I was like, what? But I'm going to give it away on the live stream. I'm sorry it won't be a brand new one. It will be exactly this one. But it's just slapped against his hand. Yeah, like, aah, aah, aah, aah, aah, aah, aah. You're looking forward to using this? Aah, aah, aah, aah, aah. Don't worry, it's okay. It's all solid-state so I'm not actually wrecking it. There's a couple of micro scratches on the screen. But overall, it's in really, really good shape. So, yeah, one lucky viewer will get my 8X. 8x and then I'm going to move on I'm gonna use an HTC one for 30 days and See if Android can win me over however however Get like that smirk off your face. It's not necessarily gonna be what I stick with However, I did spend some time on the on the 1s just kind of dinking around with it And I'm still not sold on Android so we'll see some like go back to default No, don't use their crappy terrible of us. Well, you know what? It sense 4.0 plus actually has some pretty positive reviews You don't like it. How much time have you spent with it a bit? Okay. Well, okay, whatever I'll be trying it So I will be able to formulate an actual opinion because I'll actually spend some time with it But yeah, we'll go from there or you could actually install something real or and being an actual Android user You can actually you can actually use and mark your phone I'm surprisingly okay with being fired at this not every Android user like roots their phone and stuff I'm not saying root your phone Just change okay. Why don't you handle the Windows 8 Pro giveaway? I think that'll probably be pretty much it Oh, we haven't done we haven't done our featured build of the week, right? So featured build of the week from the Linus tech tips forum is Drumroll I'm excited because I've been totally offline I think this one's a bit of an older thread. So here let me just my hotkeys aren't working for for twitch So this is a build by gecko Called creatively my main gaming system Go gecko. I Don't know if anyone actually ever posted pictures in the thread itself, but he's got a bunch of pictures posted I mean look at the way he's done the management behind the motherboard tray. I mean, yeah, that is freaking Boss, like it's awesome. It's not copper tubing No, but I still love it anyway because it's just oh, it's just freaking awesome So you can see he actually these pictures sort of go throughout the building process So he colors it black so it looks it looks really pro even though it's it looks like just PVC joints Which I just think is really cool like actual plumbing stuff in a computer sort of Gets me pretty excited. So it's in a cosmos to It's got a rampage for extreme in there So very high end build and what I like about this build in addition to all that is check out those fans Knock to a baby not every beautiful build Cannot incur. Okay, some beautiful builds can incorporate Knock to a colors in spite of their in spite of their color schemes. I wasn't able to do it, but Big kudos to gecko for making it work because that works I would love to see not that it's bad in any way But I would love to see the knock to a die mod that a whole bunch of people posted. Yeah, that would be very cool So there you go more knock to us You know what their newer color scheme looks better than some of the older fans where it's more of a ready brown Yeah, the actual brown brown looks looks pretty good Looks pretty good. Yeah, so here it is getting built up check out those individually sleeve cables looks gorgeous Corsair dominators in there Very very beast a sues direct CU graphics card. Just just a just a beautiful beautiful beautiful machine Yes, if you did like red red blades of the black housing Yeah to go along with the rest of your build that would look really really good I mean, oh, you know what? I actually I actually made a mistake I called those water cooling tubing tubes at the beginning. I think they were just cable management Yeah, so so yeah, just gorgeous cable management. Just using you know simple course our h100 You know not going over the top necessarily in terms of the cooling or anything like that, but nice beautiful premium components just gorgeous gorgeous build AX 1200 great choice for the power supply is he gonna be running an extension for the sound card I'm not sure what he's doing apparently drunken madness I don't think I ever actually checked the last the last one so there's a setup But yeah awesome build Absolutely, love it looks beautiful and very very very tastefully sure he's got a bridge or an extension or something for that sound card so guys Do feel free to post your builds make sure they're awesome I mean if you're gonna have a chance of being featured on the live stream but do feel free to post your builds in the build log section of the Linus tech tips forum and We're gonna do weekly features of builds from that section just because you know We'd love to see you guys get a little bit of more attention with all the work you put into your computers and have people Check them out so congratulations to gecko for getting chosen this week slicks gonna handle the live stream question Well, I don't get a copy of windows 8 to give away Okay, which one did you want to do? Okay Okay, so let me bring up Sorry guys Anyways the question is what is the first video that I filmed for? Linus tech tips First video that I filmed for Linus tech tips How does it Sorry guys one second All right Is it oh I probably haven't refreshed it on that one or something I think it's the card. Oh, no, no, no, no the positioning for Twitter Whatever man. Oh, well, no, it's this There's your problem. Okay Interactions, you know, it was just full screen. You're like right under the Usually we have it mounted on the camera so not used to it yet Yeah, I know But I think they were saying the audio was like fracking awesome Sweet cuz having it close to us like this should actually be a major improvement cool I asked it to check new interactions Anyone has actually got it. All right, someone asks what GPU should I get? Anything around a thousand dollars is good Pick up three six sixty TIs there or two and yeah, I just get to Actually six sixty times a really good choice. It's money on some games man The unboxing of that one motherboard. What was the question again? The unboxing of that one mobo No, it was what was the first video that I filmed ah, yes Okay, so this is tough because the only way to know which one it was was to hear me say That oh, you know what? I did a few where I said I was interviewing you didn't post any of them except for mine Yes, I did. I posted them all I don't think so. Oh I did. Unless it was after I was I wouldn't have wasted Unless it was after I was hired. Yeah, it was after you were hired. So this is almost gonna be a bit of a crapshoot So whoever gets it right, so there's ones where I basically said I Thought I was in the video Yeah, that I had someone who was applying to be my new assistant filming it. It was one of those ones It was not slicks oil-cooled PC. It was not personal grooming It was not personal grooming with the USB shaver. That was a long time ago Not zybel 60. I don't think anyone's gonna get it. I don't think anyone's gonna get it either. That's really hard. I know I just usually we post up. It's so easy. Whoa That was it right No, wasn't it? No, what was the first one you filmed? Oh Oh Whoa, oh really close. I'll say that much. So now someone will get it for sure. Bam. Oh There we go. There we go. Let's go down a little bit. Let's make sure someone else didn't get it. Oh Looks like it he's oh he's close Levitron clicker like he must have meant mechanical keyboard. I'm like that's very that looks very specifically copied from a title Yeah, sorry, man. I don't I don't think he got it though It looks like Jacob Is the big winner we're not wrong and clicker isn't just like proper name for a Mac for something Yeah, I really don't think it's not. Yeah. Yeah, it was the ASIO Levitron Mac for unboxing. So Congratulations, this is a copy of Windows Pro Windows 8 Pro that I won at CES at some event So I will send you the key. Hopefully there's a way for you to use the key Careful with the key. Don't show it to the stream. Oh, there's the key. You know, it's not the key actually So I'm gonna follow you on Twitter. So go ahead make sure you're following me Send me a send me a direct message to to claim your prize. That was tough. I'm Got it. I'm really impressed. I was fully expecting to need to go to our second question. Yeah. No, I I'm super super impressed. Not only is that old now. Yeah, that was like a year ago Yeah, and that was like not a really big thing really. No, it was just like quickly mentioned at the beginning or end of the video Yep, awesome Okay, do we have anything else that you wanted to cover on the live stream? I think we're getting pretty late here Oh my goodness almost 11. Okay. Yeah, we should go Good night everyone. Good night. We should move that so that it's closer to the lens So at least we're not just like blatantly staring like it wasn't that bad before either Yeah, it wasn't that far off. You know, it seems closer. It wasn't that far off. No, I think it helps that it was closer to us So yeah, I don't know like the mic was a good idea, but we need to fix this thing well This is just where it was because we moved it out of the way when we were filming all the Titan stuff because you were Walking back and forth across the room. Yeah make sense Yeah How's dinner Didn't you didn't yet? No. Oh, did you end up sleeping? Yeah the reason I wasn't a live stream when I when we first got back was I had a brutal splitting headache, so I crashed for a bit set an alarm But apparently I just slept right through my alarm Well, you slept through that and then you slept through my ten minutes ten minutes to live stream warning and then you slept through my No, I came in and said hey We've been live for we were oh no, no, no, no ten minutes before and then I was a little bit late launching the live stream Like seven minutes and I was like, hey, we were supposed to be live seven minutes ago Get your button gear and then you didn't come down. So then I came and got you like 20 minutes half an hour into my live stream So way to go so fired. I made it just so fired. I made it That's true everyone says goodnight We should see how many people tune out when we say goodnight versus how many how many people tune out when we actually stop broadcasting We're pretty okay Thank you guys for all tuning in. Oh, yeah, this is this was slick side benchmarking. Oh my goodness How much of this did you eat about half of it? No, I went through it's at a half Wow It's like three quarters. So over like two or three days I would just sit in here and I had to keep myself going so I'm running on pretty much no sleep at all This whole time running just an incredible amount of benchmarks So I had stone wheat thins crackers and I went through two entire bags of stone wheat thins crackers for this And I had three quarters of a tub of chunky peanut butter Which obviously has nothing to do with why I had a headache today. Yeah, probably nothing Well, remember I like partially threw up my first breakfast, oh, right, okay, and then we had lunch And then right, but you had lunch. I had lunch. That was like kind of unsettling. Remember I almost like didn't finish right? Okay, so Titan kind of beat me up a little bit Dinner's really good though Yeah, it's like peanut peanut chicken thing and rice. Oh Yeah, it's kind of awesome. I don't know if it's as good as the pasta that we had the last time though That was that was awesome. Oh Here's the here's an interesting tidbit We actually we we did a video where we showed off our Titan test bench Showing the OCZ. Oh, this is very interesting actually So many cables showing the OCZ ZX 1250 watt power supply as our test bench power supply We have now officially retired that power supply from our test bench because it will never return Yeah, we'll never be back. It's still you know outputs power and it's still very efficient and it's you know, beautifully sleeved and all that but it Makes our GPUs coil wine like like crazy and some of our GPUs Make it coil wine. So coil wine if you guys don't know I have a video demonstrating what coil wine is called coil wine or something along those lines and so coil wine is really really annoying to me anyway and It can often be not only One component so two components might actually individually not coil wine at all But when you put them together, they might coil wine So this particular power supply caused our AMD graphics cards to coil wine So here I thought every AMD card and and our Nvidia ones which one Titan But no very quietly Titan made this coil line. Oh, that's what was cool That's what was whining on the bench when we had taken on it That's why I figured it out because I knew Titan didn't wine because I had it on the other bench over there with that Like cheapo in win power supply. Yeah Makes sense that it's whining over there, but it didn't whine over there But then it did our 1250 watt 80 plus gold power supply and I was like So so we went back and we realized that We had to redo all of our acoustics testing with a high quality power supply So that's an N-check high current pro I have to hold it all weird like that so you can actually read it Sorry high current pro 1000 watt 80 plus platinum power supply This is actually one of the finest power supplies ever made in terms of the internal quality Awesome the power supply The soldering is a I wouldn't hang it on my wall That's not that one still but this one's actually really good too Still if you look in the inside, it's just like it's perfect. Absolutely gorgeous zero coil whine zero unnecessary noise And just just awesome power supply. So we've switched over to that for our test bench and So all of our power consumption numbers were taken on this one But all of our acoustics numbers were actually taken on that one and doing very very similar benchmarks to the power consumption I did on that just to make sure that that was somewhat accurate I went back and while I was running those ones would glance down at load and idle hours Was it about right and they were fairly accurate, right? Although there was something wonky about our power consumption numbers. So I don't think I actually ended up publishing them. I think that was That's probably due to our test. There's a few different things our test wasn't that good and Different optimization problems and what not right? Okay, so yeah, that was interesting. Oh, oh, oh I recovered the Okay, this is the craziest thing that the crazy Russian has ever done So I gave him a 580 to use and he actually or rather a 590 to use my my famous Apple Edition GTX 590 And he actually asked me if he could trade this back to me for a 580 590 so boss. I know 590 is boss 590 is most assuredly faster than a 580 So he has a collection of and I actually okay. It's a in his defense It's a pretty impressive collection of the flagship card of every major GPU architecture So he he needs a 580 for his flagship Kepler GPU collection so to add to his collection whereas a 590 he doesn't collect dual GPU cards I mean I can see why because they're ball or expensive but so he has I think he has either a 9700 Pro or a 9800 Pro he has Whatever he has like one super high end of each generation of cards running down each Brand be on each side so he he would rather have the 580 for the fact that he can game on it now and have it for his collection Versus having a 590 to game on and have it not be applicable to his collection. So I thought that was the craziest thing I ever heard So yeah, so anyway that means that I could potentially go Quad SLI For my personal rig if I ever actually finished building it or because the heat output from that would be ridiculous and summers coming I could just put this back into the benchmarking pool So so there you go the the 590 Apple Edition has been recovered, which is not really related to anything But this is the after party anyway, so Whatever happens on the after party happens on the after party. Yeah. Oh, yeah, here's all your dishes That you managed to not put away. I basically lived in here for a week. It's cold in here and it's cold in here What's the temperature in here right now? It's freaking cold right now. It's been cold today So it's eleven point eight degrees in the right now warmer than I thought it was. Yeah, it feels colder than that Maybe it's just because it was so wet today. It's so humid. Yeah positioning that actually isn't gonna make a difference You should know the physics of that. Well, it just changed three point three degrees Yeah, it's just a little bit warmer than I thought it was It's just point three degrees. Yeah, probably because you like breathed on it. It got colder. You got colder. What's up, bro? It doesn't work that way There's different temperature zones within the room. Well a little bit. Yeah, it just changed Well, yeah, but that doesn't change the fact that like you okay I guarantee you wouldn't be able to feel the difference between point two degrees. This is a boring discussion topic It's the after party who cares Okay, are you gonna eat my peanut butter? No Although that would be kind of awesome It's super cold did I tell you about trying to eat crackers out of that? No, I had to like stick my fingers all the way down the crackers to reinforce the backs because it's frozen So like four in the morning when I'm like, I want more peanut butter crackers. I have to like And you were so zoned out There was a package with one cracker left in it that was sitting there for like an entire day And I think you had actually started an entirely new pack of crackers just like leaving that one there I was like should I eat it? That's right. Okay. Oh, that's right. Okay. I Must get all the numbers. I know the benchmarking is not even done yet either I know we still have to do effects 8350 and then we're ready for the multi-platform one, right? Yep And then is that kind of it for benchmarking? Maybe redoing power if people care. Yeah, we could redo power I don't think anyone really cares that much if you're buying a Titan I don't it's like you bought a Titan and you want to know like how much power it consumes You're probably not running your EP you pretty sure you can deal with. Yeah, and then Yeah He's finally going to Android I'm trying Android these in live diesel and I kind of have a victory there. It's how is it a victory? Yes, I've tried and you made this big puff when you first moved to Windows 8 phone. Oh, I'm never trying Android I've tried Android. Well, you're trying Android now. Well, you weren't going to again and you are now However, however, the right device wasn't there I wouldn't try Android on an s3 right, I Just wouldn't build qualities. Shit. I love my s3 with the build qualities like come on. I call it shite I mean, it's not that good. It has an AMOLED screen Okay Which is I'm talking about spec then build quality. I mean, yeah, okay. I'm talking about pure build quality from here's the trade-off Okay, so let's talk let's talk build quality for a minute because Samsung made a decision designing the s3 to have a user replaceable battery Yeah, that will affect the build quality Yes, but then my Nexus s had a user replaceable battery and had a boss back, but it probably wasn't as thin I think Actually, maybe similar Either way it does cost it was definitely thicker, but it wasn't figured to the point where it's noticeable Yeah, but thicker to the point where it's noticeable is not a good marketing bullet point You want to be able to say this thin? I honestly would rather have a little bit more bulk of my phones That's one of the reasons why I never I do not like iOS. I don't like Apple operating systems, but the feel of iPhones is nice because they weigh a little bit I want to feel like I'm holding something like people are showing the the see-through phones. Yeah Oh, yeah, super uber things cool and like that's cool, but it's gonna suck when I pull out my pocket I'm like, I need to like somehow deal with this tiny fragile thing Which I'm probably gonna want to put a case on anyway, so I don't scratch the screen Yeah, that'd be hilarious a see-through phone with like an Otterbox Like the Otterbox armors Just like super beast or a pelican You know what else has been kind of happening right now is Google glasses are getting our Google glass rather is getting previewed so the the verge's editor has like a billion tweets about it and I sort of talking about the user experience, you know No, it's not suitable for just like sitting and reading an article or reading a book But yes, it's cool in these ways and these ways and these ways. I mean that is so exciting I mean Google glass v1 It'll be a cold day in hell before I pay for that I can tell you that right now But once it's like version all is actually looks like glasses and yeah Doesn't have this like crazy arm that goes around like once it's actually just a pair of glasses That'll be fantastic like it's like it's like Bluetooth or contact your pieces Where like the first generation ones when people weren't used to it for one thing So there was a stigma around it because you'd be like and no one was used to people just walking around talking on their phone Without an actual phone next to them. So there was like the social stigma that went along with it Yeah, Google glass is gonna be like that for a long time. It's gonna be like a super dork thing. I think Until it's back. Yes, but until it's a fashion except geek and nerd kind of Socializing thing whatever you want to call it like the so geek culture is more socially acceptable by a long Shot than it was when Bluetooth headsets came out. That's true. That's true because it's like it's actually kind of fashionable and trendy To be the nerdy geeky thing. I Would go as far as to say that Android is still not fashionable or trendy. I think that changed s3. I Don't know that s3 is fashionable or trendy I think it's just in in commercial even in best choice does not hit my head on that again Even in like commercials and stuff now people are holding, you know, how is always Apple Apple Apple Apple Oh, they're holding s3s now. Samsung spent like a billion dollars on marketing last year You think maybe that has something to do with it being fashionable at least a little bit, but it is but I don't think it's inherently Fashionable or trendy it's not it's not it's not a beautiful device like an iPhone is no and it's not to the level of And like okay some of the backs that you can put on them are pretty sweet It's true, but you have to buy it aftermarket and then blah blah blah blah blah And I haven't even done and that's a dorky thing to do buy it aftermarket Yeah, does that mean buying cases is dorky? Not necessarily, but it's like buying a fashion case is not necessarily dorky buying like buying a back place So buying a replaceable part you're saying is dorky. I would say it's more dorky. I don't know maybe I just have no idea. Like at a stand on the Las Vegas strip You can get cases. Bejeweled or Hello Kitty cases. Do they have like customized back plates? No. That used to be more of a thing like I remember there was a Sony Ericsson phone that I used for a little while That had like a billion options for these like replaceable plates and that whole thing just kind of died Yeah, and then now it seems to be sort of back but Like whether it's cool again or not. I don't I don't actually know I'm not that cool. So it's hard for me to say We're both talking about like yeah, like what's cool culture and we'll like There's you and like your teen liquid And Assassin's Creed and like me with like I have like bleach stains on my See here I got like thermal paste bleach stains and like this is food or something like this stain here And I have thermal paste on the insides of the pockets from like wiping thermal paste off my hands and like that's what I'm wearing Like this is what I look like in my jeans from Costco These are jeans that I bought in like grade 9. Yeah Well mine are from Costco and I own like six or seven pairs of the same jeans. That's fantastic I actually don't own other jeans And you know what the funny thing is to the same pair the funny thing about pants is that You know how many times I've been called out for wearing the same shirt over and over again on an unblocked One will call you out for pants. Okay So the shirt usually is because I do a batch of unboxings at a time Not because I wear the same shirt every day. Yeah, but if you look back at probably out of the 1700 or so videos I've uploaded in the last five years Maybe the last three years I'm wearing the exact same pants in every single one And here comes an influx of change your pants Yeah, but I will not change my pants and yeah So I just I have I have a bare pants for every day of the week and they're all the same Actually one of them is slightly darker than the others and then one of them is hemmed and the others are all shredded at the bottom A fashion icon I am not. My favorite like story about how we're not fashion icons was Diesel joining the crew and then us being down in Vegas and him being so upset and distraught with the fact that I looked so Horribly homeless. Yeah, but I was a little upset and distraught with how homeless you looked too. It was kind of embarrassing. So Diesel bought me jeans. We're like we're going to meetings, right? Like we're in meetings and he's part of my crew even hosting some of the videos, right? And the guy is wearing like ripped jeans in like business meetings I'm just like I asked him to dress decent and he even said he was gonna buy clothes before the trip Did not. I brought my nicest pair of jeans. Diesel looked so pro. I brought my nicest pair of jeans. I looked somewhere in between And then you looked like I swear there were hobos there that were dressed better than you. They were. I was kind of upset There were legitimately hobos there that were dressed better than him. And by like a couple tiers above This is not like like like if I'm entry level they're like Yeah, that was bad. That was just embarrassing. I bet you if I sat down with a cup I would have made the most money in Vegas Probably more money than I paid you in Vegas. Probably Oh Yeah, you know it's funny I've had some people comment that that I must be a baller because of all the YouTube money and sort of everything And I think one of the things they actually don't factor in is that we have an entire staff of three people at Linus Media Group So however much money you think that ad revenue pays out let me tell you It is it is not enough for three people to survive. We're not like Jenna Marbles Yeah, who's a solo crew as far as I can tell and has a bajillions of her boyfriend helps her I think and then his boy or her boyfriend's channel is like as big as Linus Tech Tips. They're not yeah They're not what they're not together anymore. Oh, okay. Well, whatever. I couldn't care less about Jenna Marbles Do you really follow Jenna Marbles? I watch her every once in a while. Really? These are pretty funny Some of them are pretty funny. A lot of them are like, oh she goes just kind of crude for the sake of being crude I think that's her though. Yeah You're pretty crude Yeah, not unnecessarily On YouTube Okay, that's not the conversation we're having in the after party But I would say she she goes like too crude just for shock value a lot of the time Sometimes and I don't she also does like skit videos. Okay. Yes, which it makes more sense in skit videos Okay, like I definitely see where you're coming from But yeah, like I have a professional demeanor to maintain. So obviously I'm not gonna say You have a professional demeanor to maintain