 All right guys welcome to the live stream. Sorry for the late start honestly excuses aside this is my excuse it has been the craziest week ever at Linus media group it has actually been Yeah Like I've I think I've slept about five hours the last two nights combined You probably haven't done that much better not much better a little bit But not much better so for those of you who haven't been paying attention to the videos lately in the last two weeks We've had GTX 780 launch GTX 770 launch in the next week There's a major launch coming from Intel Let me is there any point even okay has well Launching at Computex AMD's Richland AP use are launching sometime in the next week Something else is going. Oh right. Well we've been packing to go to Computex We're moving we're moving so there's a video up on the channel right now showing our new digs So so we've we've partially moved It's amazing we're still alive never mind that we're streaming this could be a recording and we're actually dead right now Or we're in the very process of dying and this is the last footage This could be like because you know there's always like the last picture Yeah, or like like like the album of like the scraps that they recorded and weren't good enough But then they can like yeah cash money or like Tolkien's like scribblings that they apparently turned into a movie at some point No Pussies no Come on some of the stuff in the hobbit is unacceptable still a pretty good movie though I still like the movie spoiler alert no there's dumb stuff. Okay. Yeah, that was it I know he's like playing with the backpack I don't even have the I don't even have the live stream sheet up here, but you know what it's okay I don't think so. I don't know if there's a light on it. There's a light on it. That's usually a good sign Okay, so we'll just have to lean forward and operate the computer there, but let's get into it So topic number one is Linus media group at Computex, and yeah, we're gonna do the build logs from last week Don't worry. We know it cut out so Linus media group at Computex if you saw any of our CES coverage then You'll probably have some idea what's coming a lot is coming However, there are gonna be some changes this time around so number uno is that oh I don't know if our Wi-Fi is working Hopefully it is I'm on Wi-Fi. Okay, have you noticed that I'm streaming That's good. That's a good strategy. Okay Cool so it's right so there's gonna be a couple changes number one is we're taking a larger group this time So it's gonna be me, Slick, Diesel and B-roll So we're gonna have four people so instead of having one team of four people that's responsible for running around and doing meetings and Running around to suites and going to the show floor and like doing all this crazy stuff We're gonna be mostly focused on covering the show We're gonna do a little bit of more like travel blogging while we're there This is gonna be the first time either I or Slick have ever been to Asia so evidently they have food there and That's something that you should try or shouldn't try either way. It'll be hilarious Yeah, blind taste testing of food is probably gonna be I don't know if I'm comfortable with that. Really? I don't know if I trust Diesel. We won't We should probably get B-roll to do it Yeah, because I think B-roll would actually try to not harm us Yeah, I don't know if I could trust Diesel not actually hurt us Yeah, like he it might be just like maybe it's like 20 minutes of intense pain But like I think he'd be okay with that. Like maybe not dying Yeah, yeah, I don't think he tried to kill us, but like if we were uncomfortable I think he that would that would float his boat a little bit Hopefully we'd be fine Yeah So we'll see on that one, but we're gonna do that world tour We're also gonna be doing some crazy giveaways. So Along with sort of the the okay So there's a 4770k giveaway right now and that one you have to sign up sometime and I think you've got like two days to retweet this tweet and then post your link in the forum and Show us that you did it and then you have a chance to win a 4770k. There's four HTC phones We're giving away over the next month HTC was just phenomenally generous with that one. I mean four phones They were like, oh do you want to do a giveaway? I'm like, yeah, that'd be kind of cool. They're like how's four phones? I'm like Yeah, let's get this going because the forums growing really fast They want to support the community and then Timmy Tech TV So youtube.com slash Timmy Tech TV go subscribe any subscriber of Timmy Tech TV Who is also a member of the Linus Tech Tips forum can have a chance to win. Of course, they're 900d Canada and US only for that one though. Okay, so we've got all those giveaways in addition to that I have a video that I'll be releasing later tonight that has over $10,000 in prizes that Western Digital is helping us source and and give away through the Linus Tech Tips forum in a dish in in Exchange for hitting certain view targets so you guys got to all work with me here and Share the content that we make from the WD booth in Computex because the more views we get the more amazing Crazy stuff that we get to give away in the few weeks after we get back from Computex So guys watch the video tonight. Make sure that you make sure you check that out. Also, it's like just a ridiculous video It's the stupidest thing we've ever made by far Superman helmet dress acts. Yeah all these words They don't make any sense right now and they won't make any sense later. Like It all yeah just So Computex show coverage you guys also said that you liked some of the coverage that slick did at CES So slick covered Sony's big TV thing or Samsung's big TV thing rather The the TV that was like gonna redefine Redefine the like the aspect ratio of your TV, but it's actually a display thing Just on its like it was like virtual art was digital signage and it was just Rotated it was like really Brain hurts Like I remember back when I got my 9600 all-in-wonder built into the driver. You could right-click and rotate your display I need a crease That's like, oh, that's kind of cool. Then I never used it because why would you well digital signage little signage? Yes, and like there's some I know sometimes Like like programmers and stuff and people that read read it a lot Those are the only two people I know that do this But you just like if you're a hardcore enough Redditor that your monitor is right now Like in one internet for you people do that. Oh, I believe it. I believe it um, and like I've seen where someone will have like Monitor like this and then monitor like this on each side so they can have like their main view monitor for games or whatever and then like Read it code or whatever read it like certain things that go very well vertically awesome. I think people do it Okay, so the thing we're doing differently you guys said you liked slicks content So we are gonna be splitting into two teams Team a is gonna be me and diesel and we are gonna go around and do all the really cool stuff and then I Mean, I mean, well, come on. You know, it's true I just didn't have to say it. You're just gonna shot gun everything, but I wanted to say it Yeah, so so we're gonna have an a team and a B team So diesel and I are gonna do our own thing covering the show and then slick and b-roll are gonna be the B team And let me tell you there is going to be some heavy competition between a team and B team for who gets like the coolest content to bring to you guys and who's driving, you know the most engagement from the viewers and the most excitement and sort of covering the show best for you guys I Expect now we did 56 videos at CES if I recall correctly I will be floored if we don't bring you guys another 50 or 60 videos from Computex Giving you the most complete coverage that we possibly can so many of you just really inspired us with your comments on the CES coverage So I really wanted to do it again Considering knowing you it's gonna be a competition. This is probably gonna be more than that. Yeah. Yeah, probably Yeah Yeah And I mean just one more thing that I want to say is in addition to the prices that WD is providing us to give away WD is our gold sponsor our main sponsor for our trip to Computex They've been phenomenal. They are the reason that we are able to go We do have a couple other sponsors so Corsairs vengeance peripherals are well, okay Corsair But we're gonna be talking mostly about their vengeance gaming peripherals They are contributing in a big way to having us there as well And we're actually going to be doing some coverage of their overclocking event while we're over there And then our third sponsor is none other than NCIX.com a store that if you follow me you have probably heard of Probably mostly they're in Canada. I'm in Canada which makes sense also. They have computer stuff That's yeah, they kind of have all the computer stuff Yeah, and they ship worldwide now, so there these are all good things So so it's gonna be Western Digital Corsair and NCIX powering our trip to Computex In fact we're even gonna be producing some NCIX tech tips videos that we're gonna send back to those guys So they can put it on the NCIX calm channel if you're not subscribed to NCIX tech tips make sure you do that because Some of our content is gonna go over there for NCIX so that they have some awesome coverage of the show as well. I Think that was pretty much all I wanted to say look you can see rumble moving behind you just over your shoulder Right here. Yeah, yeah It's like rumble. What's your problem, honey? You want to come visit? Yeah, you want to visit? So okay our next topic is going to be build logs of the week But for last week we may do a bit of a shorter live stream this week guys just because we are supposed to be at the airport in six hours And we I don't know about you, but I haven't really packed I've packed a little bit. Yeah nearly enough. I packed all the super obvious stuff Yeah, so like the actual hard part of packing still has to be done yeah, like the part where it's like did I remember my toothbrush because That would be bad those kinds of things like I have a list down there on the floor That's all the things that I need to pack and I like none of them. So Yeah, so we have to we have to actually pack and I mean we have to try to pack things that neither Hi, sweetie Want kisses? Want to come visit? He's like where are you going? Yeah, I know. Oh, he was so cute last night My wife had my suitcase open on the floor and every time he sees that suitcase I think he knows that I'm going somewhere because it's never her who goes anywhere And he goes and he sits himself in the suitcase Until it gets so full to the point where you have to physically remove him from it to put more stuff in it And then he goes and sits on the stuff in it until you close it So he was like, please I can has come with you, please. Oh Poor baby. He's gonna be so lonely. Oh Sweetheart, okay. I know anyone who thinks cats don't care about their owners has not met this particular cat because Valid comparison against dogs though. He loves he loves very deeply Come on Rumble's also kind of different Rumble specialtacular Okay, so right build log. All right, let's switch to scene. Whatever it is. Nope. Wow. What is this for a limited time? Oh, and then you did that last week too. What is this? Because your tactical rifle totally needed an iPhone stretch. Oh, I know what it is. It's because we oh Rumble Please don't walk on that keyboard. Nope. Nope. I It's because we disconnect this monitor in between streams. That's the problem So so the thing that happens is Okay, well I can't figure out how this is gonna work so whatever let's not worry just open it. Yeah That's gonna give really crappy pictures. Yep. Oh wow Wow, well, I guess you guys will have to you guys will have to sort of get the point here So this is silent cure by Jim star 87 now we are using a bit of a different method for showing build logs of the week these days Because it was very very sort of brutal and time-consuming To show them the way that they were before and we've had problems with them just crashing the stream outright due to I don't know just Complete and utter stupidity that we can't figure out So slick you want to cover this one? All right So basically this one's just absolutely insane if you pay attention to the color of the liquid You can tell that he actually has two loops going on you're pointing with your finger at the screen again Yes, two loops going on so you see all the blue tubing and then there's green here there's another reservoir that's off the screen over here in the front of his case and there's Pump pump SSD. There's just one of the reasons why I like this build so much. It's just just so much stuff Usually when we get build logs of the week that we pick There's just a graphics card That's when he's got a graphics card a sound card three reservoirs two pumps SSDs all over the place if you go check his actual Build log there's even more he's got tracers because more lights might as well do it. He's got just Tracer memory. Yeah, yeah, he's got all the different colored everything and I believe those are UV lights I don't remember. It's a very very low-res image Yeah, awesome. Awesome. Awesome rig though guys go check it out and make sure that you're following the build log section of the forum And then our next one here neon splash by crab creations and Google Drive Completely butchered the colors on this one. Oh, did it really? Yeah That's actually really unfortunate. Okay. Hold on. Let's see if we can figure this out guys We've never really tried this before if you if you download it How do you? How do you download it file right here? Yeah Okay open so oh You made it a PowerPoint. Yeah, why'd you make it a power? Well, we talked about this and we decided to make it a PowerPoint Well, I didn't decide that you did. Oh for crying out loud the slideshow is playing on our other monitor because it's the primary monitor It's probably big enough to be freaking kidding me. Okay. Wow, that's gorgeous. Yeah, so it's crazy He stickered up his stickers on this Stickered up his graphics card, but UV lights all over place his power supply has freaking like orange and green UV sleeving on it it's Nuts both the builds this week. We're just like tripping balls. Yeah, just completely tripping balls So another very cool build he has stuff that doesn't appear in the picture just like the previous guy so please go to the forum check out the build logs of the week thread that wind speed created and view these guys actual builds because like this guy changed the LED of his power button to yellow and Like changed to the window and changed the stripping on the window and like he did a bunch of other stuff Just because it wasn't ridiculous enough yet might as well add more craziness Sure previous one had a whole bunch of other things as well So please actually check those both out now. I've seen some complaints that we're not doing enough Twitter Q&A So someone's suggestion was that we do like like like Twitter blitz where we answer as many questions as we can for five minutes So guys send your questions. We promise not to get sidetracked We're gonna do one topic then we're gonna go to Twitter and we're gonna burn our way through as many of them as we can Now we're gonna have people trying to sidetrack us with like huge topics We're gonna ignore huge topics because we're not gonna be able to tackle. We'll give super short. Yeah. Yeah, we'll be like No pasta pasta you just copied me That was my idea pasta Lasagna that is Haven't fired you in a while You're getting close I like that answer is good Okay, so let's do it let's do a short news item while we while we wait to move on to that so we're gonna close this Just think no remove the files. I've saved the files. I need alright, so Google Has basically come out and said That that that that that if governments want Google to pay more taxes. They should change their tax laws He has a good point. Well, hold on. You should explain the context of the article so this is an article from BGR comm and Go because you briefed yourself on this one more than me Google Facebook whole bunch of other companies have different ways of Legal tax evasion and they've got a bit of a reputation like, you know The general sort of person kind of looks at it and goes well, I have to pay taxes Why don't these massive corporations with their buckets and buckets of money have to pay taxes? Well because they know legal ways to not pay taxes. They're not actually breaking the law They're just doing a whole bunch of shady things that you wouldn't think are legal and you wouldn't think you should be able to do them But they are able to do them. So basically Google is saying why should we? Like just pay random money when we're following the law already Why shouldn't you change your laws so it actually makes us do this? But I mean, I think there's a fear that changing the laws will drive that business out of the countries But on the other hand, I mean you look at me go Well, what is you know Google gonna pack up and like move their HQ to Nigeria? I don't think so There's countries in the world that don't have taxes I mean what so they basically said if the British system changes the tax laws and we will comply this doesn't only Apply to Great Britain though. I mean this is this is just in general. There's a lot of ways to okay So here for example, I know that if you're a homeowner and you can reconfigure your down payment for another place and you can sort of Tinker around with the system. There's a way that you can pay off your mortgage using pre-tax income rather than using after-tax income which here in Canada is About we get anywhere between about $20,000 anywhere between about 27 and about 40 percent personal income tax Before any sales tax so just like right off the top So being able to do that would allow you to pay down your mortgage much faster And the problem is just that most people don't know these tricks But when you're a huge company and it actually costs less to hire a team of lawyers For several millions of dollars per month Then it would to pay those taxes which would be potentially tens or even hundreds of million dollars or whatever Whatever it would work out to then that's the way you go And at the end of the day the only ones getting rich in the world as far as I can tell are couriers and lawyers Yeah, and they're in like cahoots. Oh, you know how you still have to courier around legal documents I'm on to you guys Oh Okay, so let's do our let's do our Twitter or did you have anything to add to that one at all No, not really. Okay. Well, we agree actually. I don't think we ever said that yeah No, yeah We kind of agree he has a point if the laws are wrong and the laws are antiquated and there are loopholes. It's It is what it is it's like if a restaurant says all you can eat and Someone comes in and eats all they can eat and then the restaurants like well We didn't want you to take that much food It brings up the same like if you could apply the logic where it's like, oh they should just do it or whatever Then unlimited data how unlimited data isn't actually unlimited. I hate that. Yeah unlimited anything where it's like unlimited Yeah, it's actually 2000. I'm like, well, that's not yeah So so there you go Uh, okay, so Twitter Q&A time. I Think my phone battery just died All right, so Okay, Corsair k60 or question mark Neither of us are really cherry MX red guys. So I think we would probably go question mark However, the k60 does have some cool things about it I've really liked the build quality. For example, I think that metal backplate is absolutely gorgeous You should but if I was gonna do it I'd go k70 you should yeah Oh, so you should go to a store You should try and get them to find keyboard boxes that don't have stickers or anything or or wrapping so that you can open them And you should try all the different switches before making a decision Yeah, because just because we don't prefer reds doesn't mean that a lot of people don't prefer reds because a lot of people do Yeah, okay. Why don't we do these? Why don't we do these? Why don't we do these why don't we do these sort of one one after the other so you do the next one? Thoughts on use thoughts on UFC favorite fighters George St. Pierre, okay What's richly they exist yeah, yeah, they're slightly better than the old ones. Yeah, but not by a ton Well, there's technically still under embargo. I think but whatever there Mm-hmm. Okay any plans for budget builds on NCIX like we um Yeah, I don't know what to tell you about that because I don't really understand what you mean, okay He doesn't do those I'm up next. Yeah, I think he's talking about the pre-dentals. Oh, yeah. No, I don't configure those anymore Okay, which is better for gaming and color reproduction TFT panel or IPS panel TFT is just another way of saying LCD and an IPS is a type of LCD so He's probably talking about TA TN yeah, yeah, he probably means TN So TN is technically better for gaming because a faster pixel response times But IPS is way better for color reproduction and you can get some IPS panels that have really really good response time. Okay, you're up Can I get a shit happy birthday? Kadeem something. Tarek asks. Why are you setting up your business in another house? I'm not leasing a commercial space Um, well for investment reasons so in the in the longer term I can't afford to actually buy a commercial space that's big enough for what we'd need but not so small that it's just kind Of stupid and has no sort of exit strategy Whereas a home is pretty easy to deal with particularly here in the lower mainland where? For all the talk about the bubble bursting it still hasn't somehow so they've been talking about bubble bursting for years I mean it might at some point but the reality of it is I can absorb it anyway, so see how it goes Here you go How much did you budget for your overall build if you want to include a 70 to 780 go? You can variable it quite a bit What I would do is go to any website and add it to the cart add the applicable processor so depending on if you're gaming or not you're getting an i5 or an i7 and then build around it and just Try to figure it out. Okay. What would you what would you tell someone? 1800 to grand 1800 to grand I'd say you could probably do it for 1650 probably but you're sacrificing You're probably sacrificing, but if you were willing to put it in like a cardboard box Yeah and honestly you could build a build around a 780 and like ignore a case for the little bit build it on top of your Motherboard and then like you can get a few things at the end like get your case get some more fans like you can finish The build later because 780 is pretty freakin awesome. Sheldon says slick is a hologram and your wall needs an isotropic filtering I think I thought slick is actually fired. That's why he's a hologram. Oh Quick go go should I agree to it? Okay. Why don't I read out the questions? Because you can't read them from here. Can you no? No, I kind of can but it's just should I upgrade to a 780 or buy another 680? With all the things going with the SLI, although SLI is not having as many problems as crossfire nearly as many Yeah, and with how absolutely insanely beast mode 780 has been I would probably go for 780 and sell the 680 So get some of your return on that. I don't know much about sound cards What do I need to look for when buying one buy an Asus Zonar get the best one that you can afford in your price range Good to go If you can get sorry read it flashing your router with custom firmware do it or not if you can get DDW RT or tomato It's freaking awesome. Do it. Okay Why does slick shirt look all funny on the stream? We don't know When are you getting your hands on the GTX 790? We can't comment on unreleased products Thoughts on Alps key switches. I saw this one. So I was saving this one for you and haven't actually used any but from what I've heard They're pretty good But most people seem to prefer a certain type of cherry as far as I have seen but again no personal Speaking of which I asked Cooler Master we can get cherry MX greens as soon as they stop selling every single one that hits their warehouse I've heard about that. So there you go There you go, um Joshua, what will you name your new place Linus media group? HQ is boring call it something like Linus is awesome unboxing cave I don't know Someone asks favorite thread on the forum. I Think I like them the memes thread gotta be the memes thread also slick take off your shirt expose your nips No, will you get an easy 87 MSI motherboards should at some point we don't have any yet We're mostly focused on ASUS for this launch I like the 780. Oh, I didn't read it yet. What do you like about the new Nvidia 700 series graphics card slick? 780 is an absolute beast If you check out benchmarks, it basically ties or comes slightly below Titan many times and the price delta between the two is about $1,000 Many times and the price delta between those two makes it a very very good choice Other than that, we have an ad ton of experience with them Okay, should I wait for 800 series to arrive or go with 700 series choices yours? No one knows how the 800 series will perform. So and no one knows when it's coming. So Yeah, no one knows Met Esther in crazy Russian at an AMD event. When are you gonna visit Markham, Ontario? I'll take this one. No idea The Google tax law thing was because they want a level playing field. Yeah Good. Yes How often should you upgrade your system to stay competitive in modern games go? Usually I find around two and a half three years. However, that's changing Yeah, which will lead us into our next real topic. So Did you want me to cover how that's changing sure okay, so that's changing because it used to be that things were Altering the landscape was altering so fast that by the time You know two years have rolled around we'd seen a couple major major improvements in either CPU performance or GPU performance and sometimes both to the point where game developers Who are working on their games in order to have them run well on future hardware at least they used to What what they were designing their games for was hardware that you couldn't get yet So you were upgrading really often to even keep up and be able to play the games the way that they were meant to Be played not to say that you were necessarily playing the one Nvidia hardware, but the way that the game developer intended That's changing Slicks running a Sandy Bridge CPU Slicks dad is running a Bloomfield CPU Which is like five generations ago at this point and there is no game that the CPU can't handle Yeah, even graphics cards to a much lesser extent we used to expect a 50% plus improvement in performance when we went up a generation in graphics card notable exceptions included things like FX 5800 to 5900 okay that was that was oh man that was terrible um But going from something like 5900 to 6800 or 6800 to 7800 7800 to 7900 was a small one But 7800 up to GTX 280 these were huge Huge improvements in performance since 280 we haven't seen that again. We've seen 30% here and there particularly since Fermi Fermi was probably the last big huge leap because 480 to 580 was very incremental 580 to 680 was incremental But still very strong especially given the price point it was coming in at and 680 to 780 is very strong given the price point But it's not like it's not a complete game changer like the games that you couldn't even run before on that last Flagship card ran great on the new one It's not it's not really like that anymore so to ask how often to upgrade to stay competitive I mean the answer is what do you need to be competitive? I've encountered people who were playing at like 640 by 480 on an onboard GPU Who can destroy me in Counter-Strike in spite of the fact that at the time I was running at? 1600 by 1200 CRT a 19-inch Which was like awesome, and I had you know an Athlon 64 x2 actually hold on I don't think no wrong timing for that so I had an Athlon 64 You know 3200 plus with like you know it was claw hammer and T-Rex's and whatever I had like a beast machine great monitor. Yeah, I was totally useless against them So whether you can be competitive or not is actually up to you, but it can still help you're running a sandy bridge Three years later. Are you even tempted to upgrade it? No so That time is is stretching Which leads us to our discussion topic was that five minutes? I think it was about five minutes cool All right, so oh is that is that actually in here? That was just me putting it in there go down I Don't think it's in here. It's somewhere. It is somewhere wait wait down down up What that's not it. It's not here. I'm sure it's no it's not here right there wait what oh oh well, okay, then fine ah So moving right along um okay, so we encountered a couple of different articles When we were doing our news items for netlinked weekly which is on the NCIX channel one of which was that the Forecast for PC sales which has already been adjusted down once at least once and has already been shown to be declining And this is disastrous and everyone's really worried has been adjusted down again, so PC sales are seriously slowing also Tablets are going oh well that was sort of okay Well, this is in line with another one of our articles as well so tablets are going to be out selling Yeah, that's I know I know but okay So the other trend is that tablets are gonna outsell PCs for the first time I think in what was it 2016? Yes No, wait what? What what where is it that one that um that b-roll gave us What one tablets gonna be out selling PCs yeah in some year article that's what that's this article oh Tablet shipments to outpace laptops in 2013 right so here's the article from IGN wow and honestly I am so tired Like I am just beyond tired Okay, so I'm just gonna let this do the talking for me so blah blah blah tablet market growing So it's tablets will lead the entire PC market by 2015 granted the traditional PC isn't going anywhere yet, but it's just another sign of an inevitable mobile dominated future IDC continues to believe that PCs will have an important role in this new era of computing especially among business uners uners users Tablet shipments are expected blah blah blah 22 229.3 million units in 2013 so all of this is looking sort of peachy keen for tablets But then VR zone had an article where they were saying out of over a thousand Americans surveyed were given the option to give up for a year their PC or their mobile phone TV and was the third one tablet Mobile phone TV tablet yeah or or other variations of that so what one could you go if you had to have only one tablet What one could you go if you had to have only one yes, which one would you have would you have just your PC Or would you have all that other stuff and the majority of them said if they had to go without for a year They need their PC more than they need their smartphone and their uh and their TV and all these other things And that to me was really interesting because we've talked about this before where the problem isn't the utility of the PC keyboard and mouse like beasts represent because it's still the best way to interact with the device and there will be leap motions and there will be You know, uh oculus's and there will be all of these things there will be more possibly More entertaining ways. Yes, and there will be more ways to interact with your PC But when it comes to pure efficiency, I mean that article that says oh well the PC will continue to be relevant for business users You know what regular people need to be efficient too We have lives we have other things to do. We don't want to be like Xbox turn on then change to channel 46. You know how much faster I can be like power on 46 Talking is not fast direct input is kind of a winner So it's not going away and the reality of it is it's more to do with That lengthening upgrade cycle because your PC from three years ago is fast enough so many jokes Hold that thought so many jokes about my personal rig taking over a year for me to build It'll be obsolete by the time you finish this. No, it isn't A 3960x is still with the exception of the 3970x which is just a slight speed bump. It's the Same thing a 3960x is still the fastest desktop CPU you can buy. I started that rig over a year ago We have a new CPU coming I can tell you right now probably that I won't be upgrading anytime soon Oh That's all I said. I am not planning to upgrade my personal rig and for all they know it could be laziness So so okay, so that thought you had okay So basically everyone's just running their family PC that they bought five years ago Because your mom and your dad who don't play video games don't care Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie My parents don't care because it's probably just as fast as it was to go on Facebook and Gmail And do whatever they were probably doing now, this is a mass generalization Personally, my mom and dad play video games on their machines so they need more peace machines, but most Won't so most people are just running four or five year old PC's and have no intention of upgrading My family just downsized from their big house to an apartment. And so it used to be there were lots of PC's in the house So they had a media PC, my little brother had a PC in his room, they had a family PC in the hallway nook, all those things. So they wanted to consolidate, they wanted one desktop machine in the house. They still want a desktop. It's not going away, they all got laptops, but they still want a desktop because it's just more comfortable. So, okay, and so it's not going away, but between all those old PCs, they had no complaints about their Athlon X3 720 Black Edition, which happens to be the one that I resurrected when the pin came off and I stuffed the pin into the socket and put the CPU on it. It's still running to this day, that is still my parents' daily driver machine. They're perfectly happy with it, the reality of it is there's not that much particularly from AMD that's that much faster, unless you have something that takes advantage of more than three threads. Then my little brother asked me to take his GTX 275 and throw that in the machine so that he could play games once in a while, but doesn't have to have his own dedicated desktop computer. Yeah, he can still do it. I was playing BF3 on a 260. And he didn't even care about the fact that he had an 8120 in his machine, a faster chip, six core, didn't matter to him at all because nothing he does even takes advantage of that. I still want more cores because I'm video editing, I'm a heavy multitasker as you know. I'm one of the few people who actually can benefit from RAM who doesn't do 3D rendering and it's all browser tabs. Dabs! His laptop sits at like 85-89% RAM usage, you close Chrome alone and it goes to 45. And I run five browsers. There is a method to the madness. Ask me to find a tab. But I could barely use your computer. But I don't care, it's my computer. I had to prep Netlink Weekly, I had to make the PowerPoint for Netlink Weekly. And opening a new tab would like lag out the laptop. I'm like, okay. I understand you have every tab open you could possibly need, but I have to actually do something else. It's impossible. So anyways, next topic. I was very confused about that whole topic. You know what, let's move into this gaming one. I like this topic. CEO resigns, Square Enix, blah blah blah. So basically, while this loads, Square Enix lost $138 million last year. This is a Wired.com article. Their CEO has resigned, a lot of their games aren't making the amount of money they hoped. Needed to. Yeah, really needed to. They're blaming it on a few different things. One of them is that apparently their US marketing is not as strong as they had hoped because games are selling 50% more in the EU. EU just seems hungrier these days in general. There's lots of stuff that sells better in the EU that I kind of look at and I go, well, you know what, people in the EU have smaller houses, so they don't need as many couches to fill their rooms with. I think when it comes to things like consumer electronics, the EU is more progressive and more willing to spend. Now that everything's small. This brings back to the thing we were talking about before. In the 90s, if something weighed a lot, you were like, oh, that's quality. Now, if something weighs a lot and it's big, yeah, and it was big. Now if something weighs a lot and it's big, you're like, wow, that's cheap and not very good. Often. Not always, but often. So, mentality changing. So the actual products seem to have caught up to the EU ethos a little bit. So yeah, they can blame it on that all they want, but I personally call BS on that. So carry on. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I don't know. It spells a bad thing for video games because a lot of, well, depending on how you want to look at it, but a lot of different publishers are on this routine where you spend a whole bunch of money. You dedicate a whole bunch of people, a whole bunch of resources. You spend four years making a game. Yeah, yeah, like a long time. A really big game and you hope it sells like crazy, but right now in the ecosystem we're currently in, especially with consoles, you're looking at indie games selling a lot because they're dirt cheap and hopefully don't take that long to make. And just the core, like very small unit of super AAA titles like Skyrim, Call of Duty, stuff like that, that's taking up all the rest of the pie. So these games that should come in the medium to high range are just not making it because it costs way too much to develop the game. Honestly, I think part of it is to do with the fact that people are just fed up. They're not going to buy that sequel anymore. I mean, some of the examples that were given for games that didn't do as well as they needed them to were Tomb Raider and Sleeping Dogs. And I'm just kind of sitting here going, well, okay, for one thing, you gave away an awful lot of copies with Radeon graphics cards for both of those. I mean, if you guys think that, you know, AMD is paying $60 each for those games, they're not. They are paying for them. I know this for a fact, but they're not paying that much for them. There's the fact that, I mean, like, you know, how sick are people of Tomb Raider games not being that great? Even though it was good, though. Yeah, but it doesn't even matter at a certain point. That's like, that's like, okay, so our local hockey team, Vancouver Canucks, every year. Well, no, we've got a really good team this year. Blah, blah, blah. Please come watch us. I'm tired of it. I'm not going to watch anymore. I don't care. It's like, okay, yeah, it's a great team. Call me and let me know when you win a Stanley Cup. And so, you know, when Tomb Raider wins game of the year at every possible publication, you know, maybe a year after that, and it's like 1999 on Steam, yeah, I'll grab it. That's the mentality. That's part of it, too. On the computer side, especially, is Steam and Origin and Uplay just going like, ah, it's been out for two weeks, 50% off. Yep. And you're just... And like, I love it because I can get so many games, but on the developer side, it's brutal. Yeah, when you're spending millions upon millions upon millions of dollars and your expected asking price is $60. And the funny thing about game pricing is people complain about the $60 game. Games haven't gone up in price for like 10, 20 years. It's been a really long time. One thing is some games that are coming out on PS4 and Xbox One have shown up on Amazon at $100. Really? For PS4 and Xbox One only, and every other platform way cheaper. People are speculating that this is just because they haven't updated the PS1, or blah, too many numbers, PS4 and Xbox One pricing yet, and they've only updated the other pricing, but who knows if it's $100 a game for new platforms. That would be interesting. Would you pay $100 for a video game? It depends which one. Because lots of people have paid $100 many times over for WoW, for example. In certain cases, I would pay $100 for a video game. Not for everything, though. But, and this is in line with one of the points that the article on Wired made, but if it's only certain cases, we're going to be limiting the number of developers who can afford to make these massive, massive undertakings of a project down to a few that are going to be left standing. How long do you think Square Enix is going to stick around if they're losing $130 million a year? The answer is not very long. Especially in a business model where it's not like they're going to run around and say, oh no, yeah, this is the next big thing is what we've been doing for all these years all this time that isn't working. It's not like they're going to get a bunch of investment to come in and revitalize them. It's not how it actually works. I mean, I would say that part of it is complacency. I mean, when you have franchises like Final Fantasy where you, like, you know, squeeze out a gigantic turd and a bunch of people buy it, I think that teaches you a terrible lesson about what you have to do to succeed. Because it's been shown time and time again. Blizzard can survive based on this mentality. Yes and no. Blizzard has the tenacity to just destroy something if they don't think it's good enough. They just did with Titan. Well, yeah, but that's a topic we haven't gone on to yet. Yeah, I was going to say, like, StarCraft Ghost, for example. That's another applicable. It's so currently applicable. Another thing is the, like, zerg rush, insane current mentality of the internet where it's like, oh, new games out, everyone play it so fast because you'll get hit by spoilers and then forget about it because there's something on the other end. So a whole bunch of people are buying it really quickly. Yeah, that's what indie has kind of done is it's increased the number of games. Just something else, something else, something else. There's always something new. So why dwindle? And you can't get, like, $30, I guess it wasn't DLC back then, but expansions. Right. You can't get $30 expansion sales on your game that's been out for a year and a half because no one cares. That's another thing that brings in day one DLC is sometimes now I'm not defending day one DLC. Yeah, you better not do that. But the mentality of the developer is, is anyone going to care in a while? Right. So we should probably release it sooner. Now, I don't agree with day one because you should probably be developing this after you release your freaking game. But you've got to release it faster or else no one's going to care. Right. You know, I mean, I noticed this. I mean, this has been the thing, I guess, for a while now, actually, because even games like Supreme Commander, I played and then it was just kind of gone. So unless it's like a unless it's like a huge AAA title, you're not going to get much of a shelf life on the multiplayer experience because that used to be how you sold a game. Like, remember when everyone looked at Counter-Strike as like, oh, we have to have a multiplayer component in our game so people will keep playing it and keep buying people still buy Counter-Strike so that people will keep playing it and keep buying it for so long. But then what happened is everyone did it. And I don't think anyone's ever going to replicate the longevity of a game like Counter-Strike ever again. And a lot of multiplayer games have no one on their servers. And there's no one on the servers. So it doesn't actually improve anything about the experience. And and I think we're just going to see that trend even continue. And it's going to get worse because you look at AAA franchises like what is it? I can't even remember if it's COD or Battlefield or Medal of Honor. It's one of those stupid games that's all the same where they have a yearly release cycle now. Yeah. And Assassin's Creed. There's another one. Yearly release cycle. So they have to. They're perpetuating this thing that has them dumping all these resources into making something that they were used to spending years crafting and then releasing and selling a bajillion of them to the point where they're trying to mass produce something and sell a bajillion of them. Because it's not like it costs less to make Assassin's Creed if you make it in a year versus if you make it in three years. Yes and no. A little less. I think part of it is going to come into I think releases for games are going to less be before when a new one came out it was often like new engine. Massive new storyline. Like new, new, new, new, new. Everything was new. Huge platform change. And then Call of Duty got away with just releasing the same game on the same engine over and over again. Same game, same engine. And when you're when you're just changing maps. Well they do have a new dog though. When you're just changing maps. And just changing locations and stuff. Yeah there's a lot of work that goes into it. You're going to add a few new guns. You're going to add maybe one more core game mechanic but it's not nearly as much as building a game from the ground up. Yeah. Okay. That's true. So I think that is going to be a style that we're going to see a lot more of. So the Linus Media Group game will have cats in it. Cats and axes and helmets and dresses. Yeah with tessellation. All of tessellation. Yep and realistic cat sound effects. Meow. Meow. Meow. Meow. Let's see if he starts talking to us. Hey Rumble. Meow. Meow. Meow. Meow. Meow. You come visit? Meow. He's so unsure right here. You can do it. There you go. Meow. What? Hi sweetie. Hi sweetie. Whoa there you go. Okay. All right so do you want, should we do like another Twitter five minutes? Sure. Should we go up and refresh? Yeah. Yeah let's go up and refresh. So we're doing another blast of Twitter here guys. I highly disagree with Cod and Medal of Honor. Oh can you change it to the Twitter thing? Scene two. Okay. Okay. Next. I agree they're not. They're the same as each other. No. What do you mean no? Battlefield 3 is dramatically different from Battlefield 2? Oh oh oh yes but not each other as in Battlefield is not the same as Cod. Oh okay sure. There's a huge difference there. Sure. But they're very similar. Yeah there's a vehicle or whatever. Halo had a vehicle. Yeah but it's still. Banshees are awesome. You don't play modern FPS games that much. I've played Battlefield 3. For like ten minutes. Yeah. No I played longer than that actually. I did play Battlefield 3. Probably I have like four or five hours logged. Oh okay. Like I played it. I just don't care anymore. I thought it was pretty fun. There are guns. You point them at the other guys. Hardcore mode was neat. This guy liked a video so that's pretty important. Okay. First time catching a live stream. Hi Justin. Hello. Impressing hasn't changed but people's mentality has. People see that if you wait two weeks you get 50. Yeah exactly. Yeah exactly. Okay. So sometimes you can still grab people with pre-order incentives and other than that people are just waiting until the 50% off because it's coming quick. Because it's coming. Sheldon says you'll pay 150 bucks for the next Elder Scrolls. Would you pay 150 dollars for the next. I think I paid more than 150 dollars for the last one. Oh yeah okay. So yeah because I got the big one with the dragon and everything. Right of course you did. And the player's guide. Okay next one next one. I know you love Elder Scrolls. Geez. Tornadoes suck. That's unfortunate. Should I get a GTX 780 or da da da da da da. We already answered that question from someone else. Final, Final Fantasy hopefully. Some of the games da da da da da. Ah you know what I think that Square Enix's best hope at this point because they don't seem to be able to figure out how to make Final Fantasy anymore would be to just keep re-releasing old ones. Re-release old ones with like awesome graphics. Don't just like oh yeah we tried to HD the textures a little bit. Like completely rebuild it. Make awesome graphics. Yeah I bet a rebuilt Final Fantasy 7 would sell like hotcakes. Oh yeah I'm sure. Yeah. You want to read it? No it's okay. Moving right along. Okay. Flats, apartments, people are willing to pay more for something that takes less space. Yes these aren't really questions. Let's skip to the questions. Okay well that's a question. Go. Okay do you want me to read it? Yeah. Hello Linus and also Slick I have two questions. First what water cooling should I get for my i5 3570K? I'm stumped. That's one question. Go. I don't I'm I'm is xoxoxo is that is he trying to phrase that as a question? No that's like kisses and hugs. Yeah. Okay H220 go go go go go H220 go. PCs are declining in sales because everyone is building their own parts. No that's actually not it. I thought it was already confirmed a really long time ago. Okay oh PC confirmed. Yeah I'm pretty sure it was confirmed a while ago. Okay not a question. Chrome using so much RAM because okay not a question. Are there any good cherry green keyboards out at the moment or coming soon? Go. The CM Storm trigger is it it's just a trigger right? I think it's a trigger yeah. CM Storm trigger with greens although it's very hard to get so good luck. Yeah not much stock. I have a 2600K sorry though. Thanks for the good luck. I believe the when are you going to finish the home computer build? It's actually done I just haven't made a video about it. Well you still have to do the whole so it's like as close to done as you could possibly be without being done. Yeah. I7-930's beast so yep. Okay let's go back up to the top let's see if we got any new questions because none of these are questions. 44 new interactions. Okay speed Twitter. Did you like Darkest of Days? Never played it. Never played it. Okay I really like the new forum. Okay nope not a question not a question. Favorite energy drink go. I don't uh Talon. I don't drink them. Okay next. How can I have four Titan GPUs with a sound and raid card two in one build? You can't. Don't. Yeah just don't why? Even if you could don't. Yeah. Will DLC be on the. Be the only future of video games. Will DLC be the only future? Downloadable games is possibly the only future of video games. Getting hard copies of games will very possibly go the way of LPs. Where you can still do it but it's a very high premium. There won't be very many of them and it's going to be special order. Yeah like I wonder if it would almost be like um you know someone would get a license to like you know download it and print it and like you know. And make a box for it. Make a box for it. It would very possibly. So it'll be like niche like web stores. Yeah. The global legacy. Are you going to do videos on the new AMD APOs? Yes. Sebastian asks nothing to do but my country a 680. Okay good for you. Summer PC. Completely new build. Maxing out actual games. Budget. Go. 1300? 1400? That's always a very good price range to play around with. Especially if it's a summer PC where you're just saving up. I'm taking that in the context of you're saving up money over the summer. You're working for the summer going back to school. 1300 1400 is a very good budget for that. When can we expect the 716? How much will it cost? Will it look like a magician? Don't know don't know. Okay. Would you recommend hybrid Fizz X 7? No. No I wouldn't recommend running a 640 as a dedicated Fizz X card at all. I'm building an MATX computer. Can you recommend a motherboard? 1155. Go. Yeah the ASUS one. That's MATX sorry. MATX. I don't know. A board. Yeah. I don't usually worry about my board too much with MATX board builds. I usually just like focus on CPU and GPU and then just kind of get them. Z77 chipset? Can't go wrong. Yeah. Okay. I have a Windows home server running on an ASUS Z77 ITX Deluxe and I'm having trouble installing drivers. Help. Simran I can't help you with that right now. Download them on a different machine like a laptop or something. USB them over here. Go to LinusTechTips.com. Post it in the troubleshooting forum. Yeah. There we go. And market best answer if someone gives you a good answer. Yeah. Do you know if we're going to be seeing any reference 770s in the near future? I like it better than the other coolers. Actually I have no idea. Because like no one is doing reference 770s with the sweet cooler. Oh really? Yeah no. Everyone's doing like WinForce or Drexel or whatever else. I like the sweet cooler. The stock cooler. Yeah. It's freaking awesome. I know but it's a lower price point card. Until someone comes in and is able to somehow utilize the light bar. That's an incredibly expensive cooler. I can understand why. But couldn't someone utilize that lighting bar and EVGA's LED technology? LED software? On an aftermarket cooler? That'd be kind of cool. That would be cool. I'm waiting for someone to do that somehow. What do you think of GTX 770 over 680? Do you think performance is too close to justify the 770? Personally yes. Okay. I say wrong question because they don't cost the same. They don't cost the same. They're not even in the same direct tier. It's slightly awkward. Yeah, 770 is not an upgrade for someone with a 680. It's not even positioned that way. Yeah, you're going off tier there. Yeah. Like a 680 is replaced by a 780. Yeah. A 780 is an upgrade and a good upgrade. Yes. What do you think about the Surface Pro? It's cool but not that many people have the proper use case for it in my opinion. If you're something like a programming student, I could see it. Other than that, I actually don't know way too many. If you need to run a desktop application but it's not super, super heavy, kind of cool. But the amount of use cases for that, like I just said, not very high. Hi from Ireland, guys. Any suggestion for a good keyboard and mouse for around $100 that would be a good for a first time PC gamer? You're in Ireland so I don't know your prices. 100 euros is basically like 150 bucks. Yeah, but then I don't know how much stuff costs there because I find... Oh, that's right. Yeah, I don't know. LinusTechTips.com forum. Go. Yeah. Keyboard and mouse section. The word feature proof sucks. We don't know. Things can change a lot but you'll probably be fine. Okay. My cat was meowing with you guys. Sweet. Awesome. Okay, let's see if we've got any more topics that we need to finish up. Do you have Xbox Home? Oh. You can. I'm going to see if we have another topic. Xbox Home. I wonder how many people just got disconnected. Probably none because none of them have Xboxes because they're PC gamers. I hope someone is watching on their Xbox. Members of the PC game are masked in race. I really hope I just disconnected someone. I'm kind of not that sorry if I just disconnected you but... That would be hilarious. I hope someone is. Oh, let's talk about the... Where is it? Oh, I can't find anything. What are you looking for? Back to the drawing board. Blizzard. Unannounced MMO. Go, go. Okay, so Titan. Blizzard has been working on it for a while. This article said they had 100 people on it. And last week we talked about how they moved 150 people to their team. Yeah, so it seems like there's some mixed messages going on with Titan. But basically, the first kind of news about it came out around, what was it, 2011? I think. I think they kind of announced the name. That's about it. I don't think they ever announced the name. I believe that was leaked. So basically, they've been working on it for a while. The second one was, you know, they were talking about how we're putting our best developers on it. We're going to blow everyone's socks off. Blizzard has delayed the unannounced MMO. Actually, the article here is a little bit sensationalist in some ways. It's on venturebeat.com. It says delays unannounced MMO until 2016. I didn't see a quote from anyone from Blizzard that said it's going to come out in 2016. There isn't one. This is 100% speculation about the date. Yeah. They actually... And that's their headline. Come on, guys. There's a quote saying that there is not a date. Yes. So... So, yeah, there's no date, but what has been confirmed is that much of the Titan team has been reallocated to other projects. The core team is still there. Yes, core team is still there. They're going to work on redesigning it. They're going to change it. They weren't happy with it. Yeah, they're blowing it up and they're redoing it. I would way, way rather than they did this, that they did this, than release something that wasn't up to par. I like it when people take the time to release a good game. I mean, it's nice to have the luxury to have that constant stream of revenue from WoW, a game that you made like a 1000 years ago. Yeah, a lot of people couldn't do this, but it's cool that they are. Like, Square Enix doesn't even have this option. Like, if Tomb Raider was, you know, 80% done being built and it wasn't good enough, they'd still have to release it. Yep. And that, I mean, has, I mean, the brutal industry that is game development has killed the brutal industry that is game development in the long run. I mean, Blizzard, Valve, these are going to be the only ones left. And I'm not even convinced Valve's a game dev anymore. Barely. When's the last time they made a game? Yeah, it's been a while. It feels like... Yeah. Yeah. It's like it's a side project. Like, hey, Gabe, if you're watching... They're amazing. I'm still waiting for episode three. Honestly, though, when we were playing with the Oculus and the Omni and like playing Half-Life 2 a little bit there, I was like, oh yeah, this is a good game. I wish there was another one like this. Yeah, I know. So, yeah. What's going to be left? Blizzard, Valve, EA, because they make sports games. Holy cow, Cat. Your cat. Yeah, I don't know. Probably some crazy mobile developer. Yeah. So that's sad. One thing I want to call out before we go into something else is we've been having some email issues. We're getting capped on the amount of emails we can send. With the forum, you've got to give context for stuff. We've been having email issues. I'm tired, man. We've been having email issues with the forum. We're getting capped on the amount we can properly send. So with all the massive amount of giveaways that just went out, we hit our cap for... Yeah, we just destroyed our cap. So the server's not exactly going to be happy with sending out emails right now. So if you do have a problem, please send an email to info at linusmediagroup.com and ask for, say your account, you're not able to log in for whatever reason. Send an email there, whatever. We will try to fix that. Sorry about the email issues. And yeah, happy to say that we're quite stable lately. Okay, well, I think we're going to probably cut the livestream now. So thank you guys very much for tuning in, all 3,500 of you, which is actually phenomenal. There will not be an after party today because we will be packing up for our trip to Computex. Stay tuned on the YouTube channel for the video that's coming up, which is ridiculous, announcing all the cool prizes that we're going to be giving away, courtesy of Western Digital, who's powering our trip to Computex in addition to Corsair as well as NCIX. And peace out. Because I'm leaving on a jet plane. I don't know when I'll be back again. Actually, I'll be back on the 9th. And I don't know the rest of that song.