 Yes. Hey, and welcome to the show. This is the WAN Show. The WAN Show, that is. Or the NAW? The NAW Show. NAW. NAW. News and Analysis Weekly. News Analysis Weekly, baby. It actually totally works. NAW. It kind of does. That's a W. That wins. Yeah, yeah. All right. WAN Show. Welcome to it. We're doing some news stuff. There's the GPP is no longer a thing news, which I'm sure every single person in the tech community is going to be talking about a lot. Boom! Because there's not a ton else going on. So you know, we'll take whatever we can. Feels like a win too, but who actually knows? We're going to get into that. Yeah. Also, T-Mobile and Sprint are trying to try to two become one again. Hug each other a little bit more than they did in the past, you know? They tried it before. Yeah. They're trying again. Yeah. Also, DRAM price fixing. We've all kind of known. It's been kind of ridiculous for a while. It's weird how expensive this stuff is. So you're doing your pricing on a computer and then you're like, whoa, that was unexpected. Anyways. I'm looking at the analytics lately. It's bad. It's bad. Yeah. That plus Facebook stuff. Yeah. All that more on the gnaw show. On the gnaw show. I'm chomping at the bit here. Who thought of that clinch thing? I don't know. Ed, technically. That's hilarious. Originally, we were going to have a new one of these like every week and then I think we made one and then never again. Yeah. Obviously that plan. Which one's you there? Fresh books. I know. Fresh books. The one in the blue sweater because I used to always wear that same sweater. The shorter one looks. I don't know. Thank you PIA. PIA. I appreciate your stuff. You don't have dark hair. And Squarespace. Thank you very much. My hair changes depending on the size of my head. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. My hair changes depending on the season. What season are you a redhead? Weird. Oh my. Only in Vegas, baby. Ginger Luke. That would be great. Ginger B. We're going to start off the show with a folding and Boynt community shout out. We have one of those things. How cool is that? I didn't even know what it was. Oh. I had no idea. I got hurt. I've heard of distributed. Oh, I thought you just didn't know what our team was. I had no idea what the folding thing was. I got a message from one of the members of our folding team who was like, can you give us a shout out? And I was like, what are you? What is folding slash Boynt? What? And then I was checking it out. I was like, oh, this is amazing. I want to do this. I think I might set it up. Yeah. So we have a community on the forum dedicated to folding and Boynt. Folding and Boynt is more like, Boynt can be a lot of things. I know what that is. It's Friday, baby. Folding at Home is a distributed computing project for disease research that simulates protein folding, which is why it's called folding at home because you're folding proteins digitally at home, and computational drug design and other types of molecular dynamics. It's this really cool thing. And Boynt can do stuff similar to that or sort of not. And this kind of research takes a lot of computing power. So that's why it's distributed. So you can help out and actually chip away at cancer research, Alzheimer's research, just by using your spare compute cycles on your piece of crap PC that's in your storage room, like I plan to do. Or you know, those mining machines. You don't say. You could repurpose those to help in cancer if you wanted to. Or you could not. You know, whatever folds your boat. Are there foldable boats? Sensible chuckles. Well, deflate a boat and then you fold it into the shape of a protein. Anyways, moving on to like a second. These guys, these people on the folding team, you can do this at any point, right? Like you can turn on. But they also do these like like bursts. Yeah. Do these weeks where they all try really hard to devote as much of their computing power as they can to do it. And sometimes it'll be like a competition kind of set up where there's like leaderboards for how different teams are doing. Yeah. So they'll be like, oh, like who can make the most of this week or whatever. And we're like in the top 20. We do. We do pretty good. And I've contributed nothing to this. Let's get it. Let's get it. Speaking of getting something, no longer are you going to get Nvidia GPP. Oh, I thought you were going to say like get screwed by GPP. You might still get screwed by GPP. OK, so just to catch up the people who don't know what the Nvidia GeForce partner program was. It was basically like if you're a partner of Nvidia, like you're a oh no, this guy. What are your thoughts? Quick before you go. We won. Victory is ours. You're behind the mic. Congratulations are in order. We did. We did win. But again, back to what it actually is. We didn't know the entire press got together and made this thing not a thing. Have you read their their terrible? Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, he doesn't get to talk about it. We do. So continue. Ha ha ha. Let's say you are Asus and you're you sign up for the Nvidia GPP. If you wanted to sell an Nvidia graphics card with your special like ROG branding because you're Asus, you couldn't sell any other graphics cards with that branding. I don't think that the it stipulates that like, hey, your existing branding ROG, you've got to use that for Nvidia. I think it's up to Asus to decide what branding they use. In theory, they could have been like, you know what, India, we're going to use our awesome ROG branding on the radiant cards and we're going to make new branding for you. That would. So from a company's perspective, though, that would generally be bad because the majority of the market is Nvidia purchasers. Exactly. You want to use your stronger brand for that because you'll make more money. Exactly. So they're totally cutting out. And this mind share really matters, right? Because what they're forcing and what did actually occur when this program rolled out was that you've got to make new product lines, new you've got to fork your brand. Basically, and so they made Aries, this comes at a considerable expense, by the way. Oh, yeah. They've got a branding marketing. They've got to design it. They've got to iterate on that. Then they've got to actually print boxes, get these boxes on the shelves. And presumably at this point, these companies have already done all of that. So now that the partner program is canceled, everybody's wondering if Aries is going to continue to be a thing or if they're just going to switch back. Because on the one hand, they have the sunk cost. On the other hand, that brand means nothing to anybody yet. So it's better to lean on your existing brand. What we don't know is if Nvidia has remunerated these companies, like let's say you just sunk billions or millions on rebranding or at least hundreds of thousands. Is Nvidia like did the lawyers set up anything for this particular case where Nvidia is going to be like, OK. So you guys probably didn't hear that. What happened? I broke the glass. Was it the teleprompter glass? I would go help them. Are you all right? Dennis is dead, everyone. So a glass fell and shattered into a lot of pieces as we were able to hear from here. I guess you guys definitely can hear that. We just heard shattering and then Dennis going, no. Oh, yeah, it was very audible. Yeah. Anyway, sorry, we're going to continue here. But yeah, it's unclear at this time whether brands are going to survive. Not as in like whether Asus will survive, but it's unclear whether or not Aries will survive, whether or not Nvidia will be compensating these brands for the work that they did related to GPP. In the like who knows how accurate it was leaks that we got, I didn't see any provisions for that because I don't think Nvidia was expecting to have to pull back out. But I guess we didn't see the other side of the agreement either. Well, it would have been what those particular companies lawyers came up with. Exactly. So we didn't see the other side. Wouldn't be in the original TOF. Another interesting thing was how they framed their cancellation. So we learned about it through a blog post that Nvidia uploaded. And they did not, they didn't like Facebook it. They didn't go on an apology tour. They didn't own what they did. Oh no. Instead, they framed it thusly. You know, there's all these rumors and conjecture and myths, mistruths around about the Nvidia GPP. So rather than spending our energy battling, battling misinformation, we're just going to cancel the program so we can focus on what's important. Like building the new technology, like as if the GPP and all the backlash was like draining their resources. As if all the technical people at Nvidia were quick, working on marketing. Yeah, like the engineers were like, I can't focus because everyone hates us. This is a PR nightmare. This is so brutal. Yeah, it's that that part is so brutal because a lot of the reason why this is all come to light was because of people. I don't remember his name right now, but from the guy from HardoCP that like pushed all this kind of stuff and the rest of the media, not just us at all. We probably had a relatively small involvement because I think we just talked about it during WAN, there's other creators that have made dedicated videos and all this kind of stuff. When? WAN? Oh, the Gnaw Show. Oh yeah, sorry about that. Yeah, a lot of confusion around the name. But there's been a lot of... Nvidia made us rebrand. It's the Gnaw Show with Radeon graphics. Anytime we talk about AMD graphics cards, that's going to be on the Gnaw Show. That's awesome. That's awesome. Each, each, each week we have half an hour for WAN, half an hour for Gnaw. Sorry. So it's just, all this stuff was brought to light. There was basically nothing from Nvidia explaining what was going on. They're complaining of getting all the rumors, conjecture, mistruths go far beyond its intent. Well, maybe better explain its intent. I know there was one post talking about it, but it was so whimsical and didn't properly go through what's actually happening. Yes, total BS. They keep focusing on the fact that this is all about transparency for the consumer. So the consumer knows what they're buying. They know that they're getting an Nvidia card and that's the best thing you can get. They want to make sure, and it's very obvious and transparent on the packaging, that that's what they're getting. If that's what it's about, then why even rely on these other brands like ROG? Why don't you just stipulate that they have a big fat green banner that says Nvidia on it? If it's really just about obvious branding... They kind of do. I've heard a lot of complaints from new system builders. I've helped a lot of people get into building their computers. One of my big things when I would help friends or family or whoever build a computer was always that I'll be there as the guiding hand, but I want them to do it. I want them to pick the parts. I would want them to build the computer, but I can help them with anything and answer whatever questions, et cetera, et cetera. Eating snacks. Yeah, getting free pop because they would supply supplies for the event. Is there going to be chips and pop that I'm in? My hands will be too crummy to help you. There's one buddy of mine that I've built two computers for and every time we do, he brings a case of vanilla Coke. I like this deal. It's worked out quite well. But I've never had a single person be like, I don't understand. I'm buying ROG. Why is it a AMD thing or whatever? I've never had that confusion. Everyone seems to get it. So all this hubbub over that seems unlikely. It feels like they just wanted to muscle them out of the good brands. Yeah, exactly. They know that their market position is such that they're going to be the ones awarded the ROG, the incumbent existing branding, and that AMD is going to be the one suffering under the new branding. Nice try, Nvidia. Evan33 is spamming contrast in the chat so much that I'm super surprised that he's not banned from the chat by the bot yet. I don't know if he's talking about contrast in terms of what this picture looks like or if he's talking about between the boxes. But in my experience, it's pretty, it's probably isn't even what he's talking about. But in my experience, it's pretty easy to differentiate between which one is an Nvidia card and which one is an AMD card. He's definitely talking about the visuals of this video feed. We don't care. Yeah, man. We're going to make it about graphics cards. It's intentional, dude. This is the new style. Low or high contrast or whatever. The opposite of whatever you're complaining about. That's what we want. We don't understand it, but whatever. So yeah, I'm not like, and I know that a lot of people are in Nvidia and I'm sure they're paying attention to a lot of the press stuff around this. So they might see this section of the show at some point in time. Guys, you got to figure out your public communication. You make great graphics cards. You have the market share, the giant market share. I know you're very happy about that, but people are kind of pissed off. And I know it's very easy for the community. I know you guys know this. It's very easy for the community to go after the company that has the lion's market share, the lion's share of the market. It's very easy for that to happen. That's definitely a non insignificant amount of what's going on. But especially around GPP, the communication was bad. You have to understand the communication was bad. And this didn't help with everyone needing to dive in and dig and clean and fight for every little tiny bit of information that they could. And for you to come back at it by saying, oh, yeah, there's so many rumors, conjecture, mistruths are going around everywhere. Clarify better. That's on you, man. And I know like it got leaked or whatever. And that sucks as a company. I completely understand that. That's super frustrating. But at that point in time, throwing at other people for that is not going to help you to try to win everyone else onto your side. We need to be open to the community and try to explain what was going on in a not so whimsical and we're just fairies on the breeze kind of way, because that's obviously not what's going on. Give me your opinion on this part. A lot of people think that them canceling the program doesn't really amount to much because the damage is already done. There's some there's some costs. There's these new brands. What could be back like back alley or what do you call them? Back alley deals, back end deals, back end deals. Back end. The deals could continue to exist right now, just not publicly. You can even name it something else, whatever you have. Because a lot of these big players, they sign these agreements, so they might just carry forward with them. Yeah, we'll have to we'll have to see how it goes. We'll have to pay close attention to Aries, I guess, specifically, see what Asus does with that. Maybe see how Asus communicates around it. I just. Yeah, this line of communication was very, in my opinion, sassy. Seriously though, it was sassy and it was just it was not what are you talking about their blog post? Yeah, the cancellation blog post. Yeah, a little sassy. Yeah. And it's it's like, yes, the community wanted GVP to be pulled. But I think even more than that, at the core, I think people wanted to know what the heck was going on. And I don't think anyone got that because now it's just gone and we still don't even really know what it like actually was, what the actual rules were. We're being told that everything that we knew was rumors, conjecture, mistruths. So we didn't know anything then. So what's the truth? We still don't know. They're saying like, oh, it was just to like make things more clear. OK. So it's more like we have someone showing us like basically a contract in very clear terms and then you're being like, everyone's just supposed to be happy. It doesn't work. By the way, that you haven't that in no way makes it more clear for everybody. That makes it way, way, way harder to buy a graphics card. If I rock up and there's like, OK, there's gaming, there's AORUS, there's ROG, there's all that times two for each different one. That's way harder. That's way harder to figure out the tier of the graphics card, I guess. None of those words like really mean anything. No. Yeah. It'd be way better if they if I think it'd be better, a better business case for them just to say, hey, a giant banner that says Nvidia GTX 1070. Well, OK, that's what that's people want, right? Let's I'm going to get to the page first, but let's go to Amazon dot com. No. Let's go to New Egg. I switched because of like purchase history and related items and stuff. OK. Did you get a veiny Vic? Don't worry about it, boy. Let's go to Luke's screen. What is that? Now squeal. OK. Nvidia search. I guess you don't even see boxes. Well, I mean, the name already has and like everything has G Force in it. G Force GTX. The branding is there. So that's like the text equivalent of the like put the banner because that's right at the beginning of all of them. Well, that's another point as as to why this GP didn't even need to exist because it's already it's already in the text. I don't buy this whole transparency angle. Yeah, I don't buy it. I wish they would just own it. Hey, we tried to make a lot of money. We tried to make more money. We got caught. It wasn't you could even be like we thought this was a good idea. Clearly, everyone didn't. We're going to bet. Yeah, I would buy that more. Yeah, you should have shut down all your stores for an afternoon and have some kind of training for all your employees. That's how you signal to the populace. Oh, man. Okay. Anyways, I think we've beat this topic down and left it in a ditch. So we can move on to the T-Mobile slash sprint merger. So, you know more about this than I do, but they've tried to do this before. I know nothing of it. I know. I know. Was it the FTC that blocked it in the past? Yeah, this is FTC. FTC stuff. So I believe the FTC was like we think there's room for four players. So no. Yes, that's correct. So that would have been under the Obama administration. And they thought, okay, there's the market in the US could support four major cellular provider services or companies. So they thought more is better. It's more competition. So we're not going to let you guys merge. That was then. Things have changed. Not only is it just a change of administration and they think that the Trump administration will be more favorable to this merger, a lot of it has to do with 5G actually. And the US and the administration is very serious about 5G. Yeah, remember that it was Trump like, I don't know if we want to say unilaterally, but he did that little signature thingy to say that Broadcom and Qualcomm shouldn't merge. Right. And that's like rationale for that was like Qualcomm is instrumental in advancing 5G. And there's a big global race to be the country that pioneers 5G the most right now. And China and South Korea are winning. And the US wants to win because you get lots of benefits from pioneering the technology and the standards, lots of job creation, IP. It was really good for the US to have developed 4G and they want to keep that going. And I think that with this, the new merge company will have a greater ability to pioneer 5G. I think there's an opportunity for T-Mobile and Sprint to make a really cool name when they merge. Mobile, Sprint, that's a little motion here, but they're just going to be called T-Mobile still. Missed opportunity. Oh, OK. Missed opportunity. So they're merging, but essentially T-Mobile is taking over Sprint. Is that kind of the deal? Because if they're just being called T-Mobile. I don't think the name, like I don't necessarily think just because the name is still T-Mobile that indicates that they're the big winners. But I don't know. Maybe. I think public eye might come across that way, even if it's not actually that way. Because everyone's calling it T-Mobile now. Well. I don't know enough about it. I can't really claim anything either way. They just said that they're committed to merging. They plan to merge, but it's not up to them. They still have to the courts still need to approve this. Yeah. And that's going to take a couple of months, I think. Even though I'm not from the States, I generally like T-Mobile. I've liked how they've done a lot of their campaigns. I like the kind of moves that they've done in the market over the last while. So sounds cool. Here's a theoretical question. Every good capitalist likes competition, right? Yeah. My question is, does more players mean more competition? Not necessarily. Because right now you've got four. T-Mobile and Sprint are numbers three and four. They're way smaller than AT&T and Verizon. Should they merge, they'll be about the same size. So do you think they actually have more of an ability? Is there more competition when there's three equally sized players than? I kind of think probably. Maybe? Because I think where the market probably needs more competition is with the big guys. So I would rather there be a fight between three big giants. And please no less than three. Because we have enough of that problem in our own space with AMD and Intel and AMD and Nvidia. So please no less than three. But I like the idea of taking three and four and making them an actual, proper competitor. Like a real, yeah, exactly. Against the other two big guys. That seems like a good idea to me. And even if you can make a fourth, as long as all four are the same kind of size. When you have four and you have two kind of smaller ones and two kind of bigger ones, there is good competition there. Because there is competition for the smaller markets and competition for the bigger markets. But I don't feel like T-Mobile and Sprint are going to abandon their places. Sure. So I think it'll be okay. They'll have more fun to move up market though. Yeah. Speaking of collusion, because three player oligopolies suck. DRAM price fixing. Yeah. Good call. So the law firm, Higgins Berman, has filed a class action lawsuit against Samsung, Micron and Hynix. I love how every law firm is so obviously a law firm just by the name. I wish that was one person's full name. That would be awesome. There's a lot of people with two first names, but not enough with two last names. So according to the firm's investigation, the three DRAM manufacturers conspired to limit the supply of DRAM chips between 2016 and 2017 with the purpose, of course, of inflating their prices. And we've all seen that happen. DRAM saw a 47% price increase during 2017, the largest jump ever in the last 30 years. And probably ever because before 30 years ago, did they even have DRAM? They probably had A, B and C RAM. Oh, yeah. That's ancient stuff. So the complaint has been put forward on behalf of anyone who in the US purchased something containing DRAM from one of these three companies from July 1st, 2016 through February 1st, 2018. The suit claims that after a global decline in the price of RAM chips, the three companies began in June of 2016 to deliberately limit their output of DRAM storage chips. But did they have to if they're OK, if they're colluding and they want the prices to go up instead of down, did they have to do it so hard? I mean, it's kind of like they overkill. It's pretty pretty suspicious. So obvious. That's yeah. You think you try to be slightly subtle. Let's just get them to climb gradually. But depending on the details, I want like 400 new cars. Well, OK, cranking up a lot, they're also going to try to get away with it. And maybe what it takes to get away with it is to be like, we literally don't have the capacity to make more. So then they had to not build a factory and then they don't have this factory or they have the a lot of has to do with their process notes and stuff, too. So is it not scaling how they should? And they're like publicly saying to each other that they're not going to go for scale. They're going to go for price per item and whatnot. Well, I hope they get found guilty. Interesting. That would be pretty world to be more interesting to me. Kind of fun if you if you could charge someone guilty for like your jerks at running a company. Oh, yeah. Like you clearly have the money to build another factory. There's clearly the market to build another factory. You're not doing it just because you want to be whatever and charge an insane amount of money per chip. So you guys suck. Here's a fine. Yeah, this is kind of where capitalism breaks down, where it's like, yeah, theory. If they're doing that, then there should be room for them for a new entrant in the market. But the barriers to entry are so damn high, insanely high, the investment so large and the talent pool is not big enough that they own it. It's an oligopoly. I wouldn't be surprised if these guys were caught like actually guilty because from 1998 to 2002, Hynix, Samsung and Micron were among a group of vendors who would ultimately end up paying a settlement to end complaints that they conspired to rig the price of DRAM chips. So it's not even the first time this happened. Also, yeah, thank you, Twitch chat, for pointing out the resolution problem. I don't know what was going on there. 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It's going to be lit this year. I got some things up my sleeve. Oh my. I'm just going to be there, I guess. It's going to be bonanza. Not too crazy. Also, check out Floatplane. That's like what I do and stuff. It's pretty cool. I like it. It's like neato and stuff. Floatplane. I'm going to get us logged in so we can see what's going on. Hold on. There we go. We have creators. Oh, wrong one. We have creators on the platform and stuff, so you can check out Linus Tech Tips, who's apparently uploaded a whole bunch of videos, including keyboard history. Good job, by the way. What? Who did that one? Who did that one? I didn't call my video that. What is that? Well, okay, history of the computer keyboard. Is that a tech quickie? Who works here? That might be a tech quickie. Maybe. We'll see. Who knows? Not now, though. There's also other stuff from Linus Tech Tips. There's stuff from Bitwit Ultra, if you subscribe to him. There's stuff from Tech Deals, if you subscribe to them. It's cool. It's a platform that has different people that you can subscribe to, see their videos. That's a tech quickie. Ah, nice. We have a confirmation. Thank you, Dennis. And you can watch their videos in glorious, really high bitrate and really nice sound quality and a private nice little comment section so you don't have to deal with the drivel that's on YouTube. Yeah, and it has a thumbs down button. It does. So you can be like, you're dumb. Find other humans. Get used to it. It's the real world, virtually. Don't say this out loud, but look at that. I'm going to buy that. I love that. I'm going to make it into something cool. You know one of my favorite domains that we have that we have to do something with but we don't know what yet? It's adequatevideoservice.com. We've been thinking about using it for our back end or something. It's just a funny little joke. Don't worry about it too much. You can use that for April Fools, maybe. That would be funny, redirecting the whole thing. Warranty void stickers. We have an update. That's exciting. I've been excited by this for a little while. I think I was on here last time we talked about it, like two or three weeks ago. We talked about it together. And at the time... One quick thing. Someone asked, is there a full plane free trial? There will be. There isn't yet. We're currently in like still like an alpha-y kind of stage. So once we properly release, there will be. The day there's a free trial is the day I use it for the first time. That's not true. I'm just yet. I was on there today. I was like, you have to. I have no choice. Rip. So, okay. Per US law, no warranty or product sold for over five bucks can put any restrictions on repairs. Who does the repairing? You can't have a sticker on your product that says, if you break this sticker or your voyanty is ward, that happened last time. One of us said your voyanty is ward last time. Anyway, it's still true today. Your voyanty will be ward if you use a third party repair service. At least that's what they say. But that's actually illegal in the US. And what we learned last time when the news broke is that is it the FTC? They issued. Yes, it is. They issued letters to six big companies. We didn't know who the companies were, but they they were like, look, guys, you know, this has been illegal since the 70s. We're about to crack the whip, crack down on it. Yeah. And guess what? The companies were hit me with some Luke, Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo. Wow. What a competition. It's like all the console people. It's interesting. Also, I don't understand the five dollar thing. Why are you allowed to put restrictions on repairs for things under five dollars? That's so weird. I think it's it's probably a bundle like this one sentence that were your clause that we're focused on in the context of this article is part of a larger bundle. And to attribute that whole bundle to items that are cheaper than five bucks would just be too much work and it would probably like inhibit people from starting cheap little businesses. OK, sure. That's my speculation. Why not? It's just such a weird like what's even under five dollars that you would take to a repair shop. Fidget spinner grease that puppy up. It just doesn't spin anymore. Just a quarter. A quarter turns all I get. I just need some WD-40, but I don't want to spray it on myself. Don't worry about it. Yeah, a little hook. Anyway, we got very specific. That's about it for that story. Honestly, the companies have 30 days to revise. There's been online. You can see kind of a more generic version of the letter. But each company did receive a customized tailored letter specifically outlining the offending product. So in the case of Microsoft, it was the Xbox consoles that had these these stickers on them. And then not just it's not just about repairs. It also says something about third party like accessories as well. Oh, interesting. Yes. It's it's Microsoft's actually in a pretty good spot for that because while their surface notebooks have like notoriously been terrifying to try to work on because like the terracotta and like all this other kind of stuff, the Xbox One X. You're talking about you're talking we said terracotta. You're talking about that like. Yeah. Sorry. Is it called something? Terracotta is like a clay that's on like Italian roofs. So what is that called? I don't know. I think it's Tera something. It has a weird name. What is it? Alcantara. There we go. Alcantara. Thank you. Now the people in their cars screaming can stop. So you ever been listening to podcasts while you're driving? It's like that's the wrong word. Yeah. Yeah. So is that is that is that what the like the soldiers are made out of the like huge amount of terracotta army? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. So that's where I played too much Civ apparently. Anyways, where am I going with this? The Xbox One X is actually kind of wonderfully easy to take apart and put back together. Terracotta. Yeah. What type of earthenware? You got your software. You got your bloatware, your wetware, your earthenware. Yeah. Now you're who knows where. All right. That's where the show is going. So yeah, this this is good. I'm very happy about this. We'll have to see what actually comes of it. Hopefully it means that my switch is still good to go even though I have turned it into a purple thing instead of a black thing. So that's cool. Moving on. Is this your thing? What thing? This topic. No. Oh. Oh. Sort of actually. Microsoft was an expert witness. No, don't read that part. What? It was like click on the click on the forum link that came to us from Gemini. J1. This is exciting. Oh, man. This is. Ah, this is long. I can't share it on my screen because I'm logged into the thing. I just give it. Are you a fan of this guy? Are you fan? Not particularly. Do you want to talk about that? We can. I'm not. I've read it, but I don't really know the guy. How about this? You know what? We're going to go. Let's cruise right into Facebook. Sure. There's two Facebookish things today. Number one at F8, which is their developer conference, which is happening right around now. They announced that they plan to create a clear history tool. So this feature will enable you to see the websites and apps that send Facebook information when you use them. It'll enable you to delete this information from your account and turn off Facebook's ability to store that information associated with your account going forward. They will still provide apps and websites with aggregated analytics. That's anonymized. This tool won't be launching for a few months. They've got to build it and test it. Apparently, they're sitting down having town hall meetings with security experts around the US and all that kind of stuff. Do you think this would be a cool tool that you would use? Do you even use Facebook? I have one. The only things I use on it. You're going to say once. I have once. I've fully deleted my account like four times. Oh, you're one of those people. I also didn't create my original account. Did you make a Facebook status before each deletion? Like, hey, guys, I'm getting on Facebook. No, I just disappeared into the ether without telling anybody every single time. I didn't even create my original Facebook account. One of my friends, apparently, I guess. Thank you, Jesse, by the way, real name, created a Facebook account under my name and then gave me the log in and was like, start using this. And I was like, okay, hook everything up to it. Yeah, your data is gone. Goodbye. So I've never been a huge fan of it. Now I use it for the messenger portion because basically everyone's on there. So if you need to contact someone, it's usually an Android thing to do. Yeah, basically. Yeah, I do the same. And then I use groups a little bit. I've got two groups on there that I'm fairly active in. One for sharing music and one for talking about nerdy things with my high school friends. You care about music? Yeah. Talk about this later. OK, yeah, sounds good. I can just invite you to the group. Oh, we're all plebs. He's above us. Yeah, he can't join the music sharing group. So yeah, I don't know. That's cool. There's been other stuff that's come out of WF8. F8 makes way more sense. Fate. Wow. That's fantastic. But apparently they're going to do a dating app. I don't know if I don't think we talked about that last week. Oh, I haven't heard that. Facebook dating app. Yeah, let me just Google this live on the show. Dating app. Interesting. First met? No. Facebook dating looks a lot like Hinge. Facebook is taking on Tinder with new dating features. I wonder if they will cut off Tinder from their blogging with Facebook. No, they couldn't do that. I kind of doubt it. They couldn't do that. Facebook is an integral part of Tinder. Yeah. So yeah, new dating app. Amid all of the crazy privacy stuff, they are directly planning on making a dating app. And it's interesting because they've straight up called out that it will not be designed around hookups at all. That's not for you to decide. Yeah, I know. But they're pushing it to not be that way. It will not ever connect you with a friend. A Facebook friend? Yes. Okay. So part of the idea is that it pushes you to new people. That's cool. And it will keep even the idea that you're on it away from your friends. Oh, interesting. So it's supposed to be private away from your friends that you're on this thing. Give us your data and we'll give you a date. Yeah. And a big part of it is this section. They're talking about conversation starters. So they'll try to have events that are happening around you and they'll try to use groups and things that you're both interested in to try to come up with something for you guys to do that is hopefully interesting. Yeah, that's cool. One problem with the way particularly Tinder works is like, you know, the first stage of Tinder is like, hey, you think I'm hot? I think you're hot. So we got that. So like, boom, that mystery solved. But then now you're just in an empty chat. And like, what do we talk about? Yeah. Where do you start? So that actually might this actually might help with that a lot. I've been on dating scene a long time, but I just having something that's like, hey, we're both interested in this thing. But without having to go through the monotony of like reading through a basically resume. Yeah. Giant profile. We need something in the middle here. Yeah. That's a that's an interesting idea. It's just kind of funny that they're bringing this up at the time while they're having all these privacy issues. But at the same time, despite all the privacy issues, basically no one's leaving Facebook. So it's probably fine. Related to that, because of the privacy things, Facebook is revisiting the possibility of having a subscription. Model, not it would be an option. It's an option. OK. OK. Just want to say this loud and clear. Facebook's not going to be like, hey, want to keep your Facebook account five bucks a month, 50 bucks a month. Oh, ad free. OK. It would be an ad free subscription model. And I think it means you're going to be giving up a lot less data, too. So they looked into this in the past and then internally, basically, everyone was like, I don't think it's going to work. So they didn't bother doing it. But now they think the climate has changed enough that enough people who are who are considering leaving Facebook because of data and ads might say, well, it's worth it to me to stay. If they get rid of ads and they don't scrape, I could be interested in this. See, I don't know. I might even use Facebook more. Really? This is really interesting to me because one of the questions here is like, would the spur more people to join? Hell no. In my opinion, no, not a chance. I don't think all it would do is retain existing customers. I don't think there is going to be anyone who's like, well, wit, it's subscription model now. I mean, I think technically there will technically be some of those people, but I think it will be such an insignificant amount that it just won't matter. It'll be the same number of people who like want to pay with gold doubloons instead of U.S. dollars. Yeah, like it's going to be like they're out there. It's a really small amount of people. But I think it will definitely increase again a very small percentage of people, but probably a bigger one than what we were just talking about. People like me to use it a little bit more. I don't like ads, but I also don't like running ad blocker because kind of, you know, we do a thing on the Internet. And when you do things on the Internet, ad blocker has potential of taking away all of your money. It doesn't for us, obviously. But I do feel like I don't know. I don't want to get into the ad blocker thing because the entire Internet just gets super pissed if you ever talk about it. But anyways, I don't run an ad blocker, so I prefer to. You can do whatever you want. I'm not. You can do whatever you want unless you want to be cool. But and people are like, yeah, I know I actually haven't gotten around to it. I'm just lazy. I don't know. But yeah, I would rather pay a website and not have to see ads. I liked that about Twitch. You could get Twitch Turbo. Now just everyone's Amazon Prime. I would call it Torbo. Torbo. Then you could have a little like mascot for it. It's Torbo. That's actually pretty cute. The twerking robot. OK, not cute anymore. That's just Jibo. No, where's this Wansho going? This is the NOSho. It's a parallel universe. OK, so two topics left. Which one do you like? Let's do both. We have why not both 12 minutes. They're both kind of. HP printer firmware breaches Australian consumer laws. I have no idea what's going on. Take it away. OK, so I'll join you in a moment. I think this began in the fall of 2016. HP sold a bunch of printers or updated a bunch of existing printers in Australia without telling consumers that there are software in these printers or in the firmware that is going to limit you from using third party ink cartridges. And that's illegal in Australia. So now they're in trouble. And get this. HP is offering consumers who are prevented from using a non-HP cartridge compensation of $50. If you have more than 2000 customers suffered under this software and if they each get their $50, that's going to cost HP. Hold on to your tits. $100,000. HP is like, wait, how much? OK, great. It's like that scene in Awesome Powers where he's like, a million dollars. They all start laughing. I'm like, fine. I was worth a shot. No problem. They probably got way more sales of ink than that $100,000. Yeah, that's really not a lot, especially because not all the consumers are going to even claim this. No. The laziness will prevail in a lot of these kind of situations. It's like the idea behind like, why are there still mail in rebates? Why isn't it just automatically taken off at the till? Because you're probably not going to mail it in. Heck no. Especially now. God, even when snail mail was just called mail, I wouldn't do that. Yeah. And most people wouldn't. So the discount actually becomes when you do the math on your end, it's not $10 off every single item that you sell. It's $10 off like actually a pretty small portion. But you will probably sell more because you can post the price as being lower because you're like, it's lowered because of mail in rebate. But then no one does it. Anyways, stupid stuff. But genius. Yeah. So it's not even going to be close to $100,000. How much is a new like proprietary HP ink cartridge? I don't know. A lot of bucks. Let's. I think it really depends on. I wish I had the model number of the printer here. 2536. That's the thing. It really depends on what printer it is because like this HP 61 thing and like this one, but then like the laser jet ones more. But they said ink cartridge. So it's not that. OK. I don't know. It really depends on what cartridge it is. Well, all I'm going to say is even if like half the people affected just bought ink, then they've already paid for the whole scandal. So in Australia, about 60 bucks a cartridge, apparently 60 Australian. Yeah, that'll be like I think it's stronger than Canadian peso, but like not as strong as the U.S. Someone just gave me the price per pallet. That's that's cool. But no, exactly. Not particularly helpful at the moment. One more topic. Yeah. OK, let's move on. Mining. It was hard and now it's going to be harder. New bit main ASIC miners or easier. How you approach it? Yeah, that's harder for the average show. Yeah. Easier to actually get done harder for your average. These are the bit main ASIC miners are able to mine Equihash and it's it's smashes GPU performance. We've got crypto mining hardware, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. For two thousand dollars, it can perform as well as 15 1080 T.I. GPUs at a mere 300 watts. Equihash is the algorithm used by Zcash, Zencash, Bitcoin Gold, Bitcoin Z, Bitcoin Private, Komodo, Zclassic. And I believe potentially even more. So what this means is that it's so much more efficient to use this, what they call an ASIC and application specific integrated circuit, a specialized computer. It's so much more efficient to use that than it is to use a regular off the shelf GPU that it brings a concern about how decentralized and free the cryptocurrency is now, because in the utopian world that we enthusiasts dream about, anyone can can support the network. Anyone can be a node in the network because you can just use an off the shelf GPU that you probably have your computer anyway. Once there's a specialized machine that's sold by one company, then there's then it's centralized. Basically, it's not. And the thing is, with these, it's like you've got a Fed, then like bit main ASIC miners and stuff. It's like you're not going to get one. They sell out so fast and their supply is not high enough that a huge percentage of it is people reselling it or kind of more like back end deals. Is that temporary? By the time it becomes easy enough for you to buy one, they'll be close enough to the next one that you probably shouldn't. That's sort of been the pattern for a long time. I mean, for the whole industry in the future, won't there be competition? There could be two or three people producing these things. We'll see. I think a lot of companies are kind of scared about jumping in because it's such an incredibly volatile market. That's why it's far future. Yeah, it has to stabilize first. We'll see. Yeah, it'll be interesting. And like Bitcoin is slightly going back up sort of maybe. So I don't know. Who knows? We'll see. I'm into the ether price. That's what I look at every day. Here we go. Damn, it's almost at 800 US again. Yes. It's almost at half what it was. What is what is Jake feel about all this? There are other companies. Yeah. And they're just going to change the algorithm. But anyway, so yeah, what happened with them there? They changed them before it mattered. But most of the time, Bitmain has already been mine. No one can hear you. Get in the show. Get in the show. So what he's saying is there is other companies and like, yeah, I know we've talked about them on on WAN show before. But there's a lot of like what he's saying is by the time these things hit market, even Bitmain has been mining on them themselves for a long time. So like, I don't know, the mining space is so it's very it's very messy. You have to be like really into it to to probably stay on top of things. The thing is, though, like this algorithm, Equihash, was meant to it was like designed to prevent centralization of the mining process. And there's been other cryptocurrencies that this happened to. And then after these ASICs come out, they just like alter the algorithm so that it kind of nullifies the lead that those ASICs give themselves. Yeah. So maybe right now, people don't know if Equihash will do the same thing and then GPUs will still be relevant. Or if there's a fork. But either way, we won't know until the future. And speaking of the future, that's where you'll have to be to see the next WAN show or to see any more of the WAN show because we're going to leave. Yes. Yeah. There's a parallel universe. There's a many worlds hypothesis here where there's a WAN show and a NAW show. Yeah. Well, so if you want to see either one of those come back here in seven days, minus one hour, and you'll be good to go. Well, probably not even the minus one hour. We were on time today. Seven days, minus like 20 minutes. Anyways, guys, goodbye. Play the intro. Oh, no. Okay, we're good. Clench harder. Okay, which one am I? This one. I'm the couch. Yes. Perfect. I'm that little companion cube on the couch. That line just put up his butt. Yay. Squarespace. No private access. And you want to do it again? No, I thought I'd missed it. That's why I did it. Okay, there we go. Fresh books. Thank you very much. We'll see you next time. Slash NAW. Slash NAW.