 He didn't know what twitch is he's like this is sort of like dark website I'm just like no I explained him the cost of twitch and how I I explaining him the context of twitch and I told him about like hey some people are making like six figures just Playing video games and other people are watching so And he wasn't depressed by this by the way we're live no Awesome. Yeah, John was explaining live streaming on the internet to his dad who's apparently watching hi dad so hi John's dad That's uh, that's uh, that's you know it's funny. I forget I forget because I spend so very much time much time in front of the camera that like Being on a show is like maybe a thing. Yeah, it's like a big deal to some folks still so Yeah, there we go. Yes. I'm taller than you know it's way down here who's assistant is usually Luke so yeah Yeah, okay, so welcome to the land show you guys we've got a great show for you guys today Luke is down at I E.m.. So he's working on some pretty cool content from the Intel Extreme Masters And so I have brought in my Luke substitute for the day John He was gonna point at you, and it won't be awkward at all. I promise In other news we've got a bunch of great topics for you guys today President Trump has determined that exploring Mars is not grand enough No, he's gonna have the best NASA the best the greatest NASA, okay, the greatest NASA the best Just the best so they're gonna explore even further than Mars Probably he'll find a way to do that within the four years that his term will last no question no question no question They'll launch tomorrow The best launch anyway be the greatest loss you've ever seen the greatest launch with the greatest lunch you've ever eaten Launch and lunch do Trump steaks man at the same time steaks. Yeah, beat them. They're the greatest Okay, so the new MacBook Pro speaking of the greatest the reviews are coming in and it doesn't look good More MacBook Pro news the new MacBook Pro outsold every competing laptop in just five days So I guess that's pretty good if you're Apple it's not surprising I'd love to say nothing surprises me anymore. It's official Nothing can surprise me anymore You can make six figures game streaming and we have a reality TV stars our president nothing surprising That's right your president the hour was not our it was him our for now for well Have I talked to you about that? No, seriously did I tell you that I don't recall that I Think one of Trump's moves could be to invade Canada because realistically who would stop him I Think it's politically extremely unpopular. We don't want Canada politically unpopular. Yes But would anything stop Trump's America from simply marching north and declaring Canada to be theirs He loves the Canadians. Oh, I don't think he does. I think he I think no I think he's happy that all of the celebrities who don't like him are moving to Canada if anything I think they're all reneging on that of course. They are yeah happens. You can't just walk in I don't understand how people like oh you did I Had I had to like get I had a stack of paperwork that was like it was huge I looked at it though. What did they look at it? So I had the guy he take he kind of flips through really disinterested He's like alright. I'll be back in a minute and so and then he's like I'll be back in a minute and so and then he gave me a fancier piece of paper, and he said okay Bye, and here I am but you can't just walk in you can't okay our other our other major news story this week more gamers Are gaming on AMD graphics than Intel and Nvidia? Combined says a study from GFX speak calm which I'd never heard of until this study made headlines Is it a sensationalist headline? Yes, but we'll explain what they're talking about at 11 do we have the confusing flow chart to show everyone yes We do okay. Yes, we can lovely The best flow yes, we can't you're dating yourself a little bit there my friend No one else is gonna date me Isn't that I am also married and I have no comment so Yeah, you know what I love you, honey, but the the married people are actually slowly taking over here So so there's you there's me yeah, there's Colton so that's three of us now So I'm gonna go ahead and say that I'm married I'm married. I'm married. I'm married. I'm married. I'm married. I'm married. I'm married Yeah, there's Colton, so that's three of us now. I mean, we're still we're still woefully outnumbered But I think it's a matter of time for for Brandon I think it's I think someone's gonna lock up that Nick light character Just a hunch. Yeah, just a hunch. Someone someone's gonna someone's gonna I mean all that who doesn't want all that Again no comment well, I mean my wife has said to me multiple times This is exactly the same as when we were dating except there's just like legal crap now It's like it's the same thing so but then when you guys were dating you were in law school No, I wasn't. It's like way after I graduated. Oh Okay, okay, okay, yeah, but you were trying to find a job as a lawyer. Yes, so there was legal crap It's a very different. There's always there's always a legal. I'm just trying to find a technical There's always there's always a legal. I'm just trying to find a technique technical way to tie the two together I'll give you a six out of ten. Thank you It's about as well as I ever do with my wife. So oh, oh All right, um, let's do okay. No, I promise this will not be the bittered Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary man show today Like this is what happens when I bring you in instead of Luke. Oh Let's move on to our first topic of the day This is posted by hey yo on the forum the original article here is from nine to five Mac Actually, no, let's not do this one first. Okay, let's do it. Let's do the first Let's do the second one first. So also from nine to five Mac this one posted by What's sir? What's her face? D JD? WSK 97 thank you for the username. That is impossible for me to Actually say as a word, um So here we go touch bar Let's check the dates on these three days ago Touch bar MacBook Pro models have non-upgradable SSDs seemingly undersized batteries and So the reviews are the reviews are supposedly not looking good. Let's have a look SSDs and RAM are both soldered to the logic board the battery cells look comically small Some speculating that Apple limited their size to hit a weight target with others saying that this could be an intentional choice To give the batteries room to expand or limit heat buildup inside the otherwise tightly packed casing perhaps Avoiding a note 7 style issue. Although I doubt that very much that seems to be a tongue-in-cheek Tongue firmly planted in cheek comment. There is a tongue I know the con like literally right next to it. Yeah, so that's that's how I figured out That it was tongue-in-cheek excellent deductive reasoning very smart That's that is why that is why I am a YouTube sensation. I Actually don't think anyone anywhere on earth considers me a sensation. I'm I consider you a sensation Linus. Thank you Is Canada on earth? Does Trump's you told me include Canada? I'm not a citizen you tell me Okay, reviewers are stating they're seeing nowhere near apples claimed 10-hour battery life the verge reported five to six hours while Business Insider got a more promising eight hours under ideal conditions six hours under normal use which is a shame because Apple historically has advertised battery times that have been fairly aligned with Real world usage even going after other companies for exaggerating their claims quite frankly I have no idea what anyone's battery life ratings are based on I yeah, like I'm looking at I have the thing in front of me and the verge Guy says he can see kept open slack Safari mail tweet bot and texted at Washington Occasional YouTube video and opening various Apple apps here and there for testing why thank you So I mean, yeah, that's a reasonable workload But Lord knows how they tested it in Cupertino or you know how anyone else uses it so so this news comes after Apple's claims that the lack of a 32 gig option was due to a focus on power savings General performance trackpad keyboard and touch bar are all considered positives depending on who you ask I know there are a lot of developers that are upset about the removal of the top row as a no Okay, and I got to be really clear about my wording here. It'd be really careful So a lot of people are saying there's no physical escape key while technically a touch Pad with like a spot on it is physical But it's not like a button you can physically push down on and then something happens as a result of a right board actuator Yeah, so a lot of developers are upset about the lack of a physical which to be clear. It's still physical It does exist in the physical plane of existence. It's not telepathy. It's not spiritual. Yeah. Yeah, but the lack of a physical escape key and Louis Rossman in particular is the only person I've really seen this complaint from but it's super upset about the louder keyboard I haven't personally tried it yet. My MacBook Pro is gonna arrive in like Monday should arrive Monday or Tuesday I like how you get to look at your watch for that because I always think you're going to say like two hours I didn't Monday. I didn't know what day of the week it was. I'm Friday I'm which Friday. I know I know that like cognitively I know that but emotionally I don't know that Spiritually, I don't know that physically. I might know it. Yeah. Well, this has been a very taxing time for like my my chi But emotionally there's no escape Eat Arby's dude escape because oh Okay, seven out of ten Luke would have caught that four out of ten co-hosts. Well, you know what? I'm sorry I'm not Luke. I try to grow a beard out. It's itchy. It comes in patchy, you know, I tried, you know Sorry, you know, there's more to the Luke package than just the just the beard. Yeah, it's like 90% that though All right. So I think this segues pretty perfectly into a short discussion on our video about the MacBook Pros lack of a 32 gig option our much maligned Video about the lack of a 32 gig option now, okay John actually wrote the video it was hosted by Luke, but I also Proofread it so to be very clear. I'm not gonna try and pin the blame on anyone We all collectively Didn't consider or missed That the reason so that the the electrical Traces connected from one thing to another thing reason that the MacBook Pro 2016 only comes in 16 gig options or less is that the Skylake CPU in it Only supports 16 gigs of LPDDR3 on a single channel We all kind of collectively derped on that so we're sorry our bad however That doesn't really change any of the overall message Especially in light of the reviews for the MacBook Pro coming in Complaining about the battery life So John do you want to kind of give us the top-level summary of what we were trying to achieve? by investigating the power consumption of RAM Mostly that RAM modules are not only small in size and not terribly difficult to fit in the mobile device like a laptop but they're also Typically one of the lower power consumption components of any system whether desktop or laptop If you watch the video obviously we tested like a bunch of different RAM configurations in the predator We were using DDR4 SO DIMMs Which are actually the same voltage as the LPDDR3 that they're using in the MacBook Pro is 1.2 volts And so it would take an engineer at Intel or Samsung or Apple or something to tell us the exact like milliwatt difference or whatever They're not exactly the same, but they do run at the same voltage So you'd expect them to be similar-ish you know and so when we were so when we ran You know we did everything from you know one stick of eight to two sticks of 16 in the in the Predator There's only two SO DIMM slots in the Predator, but we did this and the differences while they were there they were Quite they're very very marginal when you look at the actual battery capacity The difference between the most draining and the least draining RAM config it was about a hundred milliwatt hours Yeah, it's about a hundred milliwatt hours about 4% of the battery no matter which way you slice it so In that vein we were just the point we were trying to make was more I'm not sure that power consumption is like the best explanation for this even had they gone with DDR4 Even if the power would have been like a look the power consumption would have been more of a concern It seems to me anyway that the bigger concern would have possibly been space because Obviously if you put in the SO DIMM you have the slot there There's some additional bulk as opposed to or even if you were to solder on 32 gigs of DDR4 that would still take up more PCB space It is an extremely small PCB So like Linus said it was sort of a team effort derp if you will on that but but at the same time It does I still am kind of raising my eyebrow a little bit as Luke said in the video about Why exactly that design design decision was made and to be clear? We are also aware that implementing dual channel memory versus single channel memory may have also affected power consumption Absolutely, but then back to John's point where the greatest Delta we were able to observe testing different RAM amounts in different systems was four percent of a Predator battery a predator battery is how many because you could probably do the math because the well four percent is four percent So it'd be four percent of any battery four percent of overall power consumption. I guess it could be no no no no no Because we measured it in milliwatt hours, which is like a unit of energy So I think yeah, so so it's not it's not that but it's more that the difference between the lowest and highest Was so little and it was so insignificant that so so in response then let's say Let's say five percent to cover our basis Let's say if they had allowed a dual channel 32 gig option that might have consumed five percent more power and Let's say that that would have added You know this much PCB space or whatever the case may be Let's say let's say that was the answer it doesn't change the conclusion of our video the conclusion of our video where we say ultimately it came down to some kind of manipulation of people's upgrade cycles or some kind of space saving measure Ultimately that is still the answer Did we overlook an important point in arriving at our conclusion? Yes, and for that again. We are very sorry But that really doesn't change that the reason this happened is not due to power consumption It is part of an equation that has multiple variables. There's a power consumption equation There is a performance equation. There is a space equation and there is a heat equation There's there's actually there's many many many many many variables So for Apple to come out and say it was due to power consumption it was to keep power consumption acceptable is Still a ridiculous statement because that is not the entire truth. It is a fraction It is it is the X in an equation that also has Y Zed A B and C variables Yeah, it might not be as good, but it also if they put in DDR4 and gave you a 32 gig option It's not like battery life would just plummet. So yeah, it's it's a little bit And there's also you also have to wonder if it is it the same thing with the SSDs, you know Because you know part of the reason is getting a little bit hammered on the reviews like oh the SSDs are soldered on Everything's soldered on and you think about how big An m.2 2280 SSD how small these are well Apple managed to fit them in their laptops before there we go Yeah, so you also have to think about that too. You arrived at the same conclusion Is it space management is it trying to affect people's upgrade cycles? I guess that's the nicest way you can say it But you know, I guess it's just a little bit unclear at this point. So so basically there you go right conclusion wrong methodology Linus Media Group, okay Linus Media Group we try yeah, we try we try darn it Please please look at us as like the lovable tryhards and not the completely inept terrible people Lovable tryhards. I hope you're not comparing us to like the Cleveland Browns Linus Yeah, we do win sometimes we try to do yeah we do win sometimes apologies to any of our fans from Cleveland But yeah kind of been a rough time for them. Anyway Okay moving on to our next topic so this is also from nine to five Mac and this was posted by hey yo The new MacBook Pro outsold every competing laptop in its first five days of being on sale So now to be clear the the way that they arrive at this data is actually not Not based on numbers that are being released by Microsoft Dell Asus Lenovo and Apple because Apple to my knowledge hasn't shared any sales numbers of the new MacBook Pro yet. So this is based on Blah blah blah blah blah blah Component orders Component orders and slice intelligences Something or other something something something I can't remember I'm gonna go back to my notes because that's where I have the information that I'm trying to tell you No, no, I read the article so I knew that that thing okay. Yeah. Yeah, here we go So it comes from the data comes from analyzing email receipts among its panel of 4.4 million online shoppers So this is not by any means comprehensive, but it also isn't a completely insignificant sample size With that said depending on how you obtain your sample audience Like oh, I don't know say for example you get people to join your panel on exclusively Apple websites, for example Well, obviously that's gonna affect the sales of max proportional to PCs in your in your testing In your in your data, so we don't really know much about that. But what we do know Is that in five days? It achieved a sales number that is slightly less than here. Let me just pull up this graphic here It's cut off on the bar next to it, which is awesome So it is almost double the Dell XPS 13 The newest MacBook it is almost quadruple The Microsoft something what is that? Yeah, why is this cut off that is that is just horrible like CSS, I guess here we go Okay, so let's go over to intelligence.slice.com. Here we go So the newest MacBook Pro is almost caught up to the 12 inch MacBook Which was a complete I guess even by Apple standards is now officially a turd Because it's been on sale since April of 2015 It has crushed the Surface Book by almost 4x It has crushed the Asus Chromebook flip, which I'm really actually not sure what that has to do with the MacBook Pro But it's a completely separate market segment. Sure. Yeah 40% Apple laptop buyers from 2014 14 purchased their next laptop from another brand Which is pretty interesting. I guess MacBook Pro shoppers mirror Apple watch early adopters So 20% female 80% male. It's all very interesting data I mean again, we don't really know much about where they get their data set from exactly their sample size is not comprehensive or anything like that, but There you have it I guess a lot of people fancy themselves pros and Bought a MacBook Pro so they can show off how pro they are very pro when they pull it out in class Nothing screams pro like the touch bar. Hey, nothing screams like when I pull it out in class I think we've all been there You know what I want to hear from I want to hear from you guys Strawpoll. Yeah, we got a strawpoll this Okay, so hate on the MacBook Pro 2016 Okay deserved I Deserved and i'm actually going to get you guys to rate it on a scale of one to five So five is the most deserving And one is going to be the least least deserving bro Um, well, you know what not all of us are perfect, you know, not all of us are trained proofreaders Aren't you also like our editor in chief? I wasn't trained to do that You went to school to proofread things. No, I didn't that's what lawyers do. That's like a tiny part of all We do we all have proofreading class in law school. We don't do that Well, it's important to proofread and i'm sure they cover the importance of it in law school I just figured you would be able to type the numbers one through five in succession without much difficulty Perhaps I was wrong Perhaps you were Lions is gonna be gonna fire me after the show's over with by the way So no, I don't have to fire you I can deport you I don't think I can actually no you have to get truio to do that for you And you probably try to talk to me about my feelings before that happens. So jokes on you Oh, all right. Okay. Hold on a second Is this really gonna become? like a head of state Showdown Because I will put trudeau up against trump Any day of the week? Even in a fist fight your head of state is queen elizabeth not justin trudeau. That's that's uh, that's and I really but does she know it anymore? I mean, what is she like 110? I either way, I wouldn't want to see her maj get into a fist fight I don't think that would turn out very well. She's kind of a badass lady because she's sick the corgis on somebody She could do that the role of ori. I had no idea she like served in world war two Oh, she was like, you know, what did she do? I think I remember hearing about this She was a driver for like something something but it wasn't like it wasn't a purely ceremonial role Like she actually did things. Yeah, there we go. Yeah, that's actually kind of apparently her dad was furious But it was just like uh, yeah, like she's actually like way cooler than I uh than I thought Yeah, well, I mean, hey, let's see you be like still awesome when you're like a billion years old So, you know what's you know, what's really interesting about the results for our straw poll? Apparently, I'm psychic because the least important option was the one I glossed over We didn't have a two and no one cares Only six percent of the people would have even voted for your two Maybe the twitch viewers are just trying to spite me it would not have affected the results of the election unlike gary johnson and jill stein Okay, yeah, there's an argument that could be made for that All right So there you go Apparently most of you are pretty much on board with apple's latest mac pro pretty much deserving the hate that it's getting right now With that said you know what? Okay, we're gonna move on to our next topic But I want you guys to answer this next draw poll in the meantime Who knows someone who bought one? And i'm okay, i'm not talking like you watch uh a twitch streamer who personally knows Yeah, you have to personally know them. You have to have you have to have spoken to them In the last six months or like emailed them in the last month Or i am'd them in the last like two weeks or something. I know someone who was very close But they ultimately ended up going with the um the newest macbook the regular macbook not the pro model With like the core m whatever which I guess is Cheaper so it has that going for it. Yeah, it's just one of those things where you know I think if you don't need every bell and whistle and you don't need hyper threading or a port Or a computer that doesn't throttle to literally 50 of its performance as soon as you do anything intensive Oh, yeah I mean I was just thinking about getting like the brakes removed from my car and just selling them because like who needs those? You know, I could just sort of you know, frets flintstone to stop it Whatever. All right Let's move on to our next uh, our next highly controversial topic of the day Uh, this was posted by lil trekkie on the forum and the original article here is from gfxspeak.com And the headline here is the balance of power in gaming Do you think I read that? Okay? It looks it sounded like you sound like short schnager, but with like a mouthful of mashed potato Don't he always kind of sound like he has a mouthful of mashed potato. I think you read it fine linus. Thank you uh, okay, so This is if you're confused by the end of me scrolling down this page Let me tell you that I am uh firmly in the same camp as you are. It's pretty bad So gamers fall into several camps device size main processor type os screen size budget time spent The gaming community is so large that no single demographic can define it Moving on lordy. Okay. So Okay, we've got your pc Then we got your desktop notebook and there's a new category that maybe they'll add just to make things a little bit more confusing I have that handheld pc that we're releasing a youtube video on very soon windows 10 handheld device Okay, so then you got your discrete you got your you got your on board you got your discrete you got your on board Don't forget to add external like if we just want to make this this chart phenomenally. Yeah, like a razor core Yeah, razor core razor core. Don't forget about that Then in discrete you got your mainstream performance enthusiast workstation um Okay And you got your discrete notebook mainstream rich media workstation I like how the differences between these are just so obvious from this chart enthusiast is missing I last time I checked there a gtx 1080s in notebooks, but I guess we're not going to stress Is that enthusiast or is that like you know, or is or is titan x enthusiast? Okay, and then everything ultimately makes its way to a display Okay, gotcha. We would hope the tiers for game or time commitment are light moderate intensive and extreme Okay And that oh, hold on a second. Um, and then there's this thing what? So there's a semiconductor fab Which goes to the discrete gpu supplier which go to contract manufacturers So this is amdr nvidia. I'm gonna do my best to make my way through this so this goes to your tulls and your uh, like asus's and gigabytes of the world who actually take those chips and like Buy memory and pcbs and bolt them all together So they sell them to aib partners Mostly so that would be guys like your evgas of the world. Um, yeah zotac. I know zotac's a manufacturer Oh, that's right. They are not so but uh gigabyte and no gigabyte is a manufacturer Okay, in fact, i'm actually really i'm just going off the rails today. I guess there's been a lot of consolidation in the In the in the actual assembly and brand um space so it used to be that there were a handful of manufacturers your your fox cons and your whoever else Um, and then it was like a lot of guys rebranding like the bfg techs of the world uh, but nowadays a lot of them are more vertically integrated or they're just kind of a brand name That has a manufacturer above them. So yeah, that would be things like galax for example like galax owns manufacturing even though the galax brand itself is just a like a Fabricated brand targeting north america For that much larger company, okay So, uh, some of them go to oems. So that would be your dells of the world Um, some of them go to special systems. So there's your boutique builders um Okay from aib some goes to distribution some goes to Is direct sales supposed to be i guess retail and etail Well, I guess if you're buying off of ebga.com instead of newegg.com that would be direct sales. I think they mean retail I think that's what they actually or maybe distribution channel is meant to be retail Yeah, because because because newegg is basically retail, right? So like if you're if you're buying it off of there instead from ebga site, yeah, and there's absolutely okay direct So they're saying 10 direct sales. Okay, that's probably so 82 percent. So let's call that direct to retailer sales and Distribute distributors like dnh and inger micro and all that kind of stuff Okay, some of the oems go to embedded and special systems suppliers So hold on from special systems to direct sales. So is this supposed to be the consumer maybe? Okay, i'm not actually no consume because consumers are here Yeah, although the red is all going to consumers after okay, like once you get to aib and then distribution channels Some goes to enterprise, but we don't have percentages for that Some goes together and presumably they need graphics cards to does not include workstation. Okay. Okay. So the conclusion here is Approximately seventy three point eight percent of all graphics aibs end up in gaming PCs Which is a very interesting conclusion, but I'm not a hundred percent sure that I can agree with that necessarily Just because one thing that is not tracked that closely by enthusiast press is the sales of things like GT 240s I had No idea like back when I was working at NCIX and I was the product manager for Zotac We weren't selling a lot as oh tack but it turned out that We were like by far the biggest seller of like the high-end stuff and at NCIX I was also managing MSI and EVGA at the time So I'm seeing like these huge numbers on things like, you know GTX 680s or whatever it would have been at the time that I was still working there Like huge huge numbers on like five hundred six hundred dollar graphics cards and I'm sitting here going out a very small revenue number So turns out, you know talking to people who know people who know people I'm not gonna name any names. I don't throw anyone under the bus, but like the kind of numbers that a brand like Zotac Where they're basically Best Buy exclusive the kind of numbers they're doing on stupid cards like GT 730s and 610s what a huge like huge it blew my mind. I'm like Maybe I just haven't spent enough time standing in Best Buy by the video card counter Watching for people to come up and try and buy that crap so that I can tell them to turn around walk away And to be clear like this is something a lot of people got really confused about In the video that I made a couple years ago called low-end this this video card is garbage No one buy it or something like that. I Understand that some people just need a basic graphics card because they're on board video died or whatever Or they want to hook up two monitors. I get it The problem is that a lot of these cards are like 70 80 dollars 90 dollars When if all you need is an output you can get those for like 30 bucks That's my point the point is they are priced very close to cards that are legitimately good To accelerate games or video editing or any GPU accelerated workload They're close, but the performance is closer to the $30 one. That's the problem anyway Huge numbers of these people buy I had no idea. I was completely ignorant of that But let's say for a second that their numbers are right. Let's go back to let's go back to the confusing article Based on Steam user data we conclude that 16.5 percent of desktop machines used for gaming are using Intel integrated graphics Southeast Asia is apparently what they're going based on represents about 6.5 percent of Global steam users team did is not differentiate desktop from notebook graphics the same percentage Intel for notebooks Based on the AMD to Intel integrated notebook ratio our quarterly data collection of mobile integrated Okay For the past seven years with three major vendors install base for GPUs for PC gaming declined slowly following the PC's decline Console data something something okay, so eventually we end up with GPU gaming hardware market 30 billion PCs something consoles something consoles Okay, so basically the conclusion is and it's it's kind of a it was kind of a it was kind of a clicky sort of Thought experiment, but the conclusion is that when x86 based gaming is examined AMD is the clear winner, and I was kind of looking at that going okay I'll see where you're going with this with x86 based machines falling into three platforms consoles notebooks and desktops When tracking equipment they considered the install base of the latest consoles so the Xbox one the Wii and the Wii U and the Sony PS4 and the Blah-Blah-Blah's Adam boards for gaming Yeah, so okay, so so there you have it PC data Intel is the this is the conclusion Intel is the volume leader integrated GPUs and PCs Nvidia is the leader in discrete GPUs in PC Which I get was not exactly a great mystery to anyone then when you look at x86 as a whole more gamers are playing on Radion graphics than Intel and Nvidia combined It's not strictly speaking true because I don't believe AMD applies their radion branding to console products Oh, yeah, I wonder how much of that is a PS4 and Xbox one. I think um let me see so This says um they actually call it radion GCN architecture all for the Xbox one So I don't know if I don't know if they put that they stick that on the box or if Microsoft puts out anywhere That's really visible to a consumer, but that is what I've what I've seen so Um one way to find out Here we go, oh, yeah, yeah the Shot of the the chip so yeah, let's pull up a shot of the chip so is that it or oh well That's clearly not on an Xbox because it says Sony computer. Yeah, this is a PS4 APU. So thank you internet Okay, so no Are they both rocking sort of like well the Xbox one doesn't have an APU style sub does it doesn't it like if you look at? The shot of the whole board isn't it CPU and then GPU somewhere else no I thought they were both APU's okay I could be wrong. I don't know but yeah, I frankly I don't pay as close attention to Console stuff as I as I probably probably should and possibly could Speaking of no yeah, you're right. Yeah. Yeah, um speaking of consoles our ps4 Pro arrived are you gone? How's that going? Um? Well, haha, yeah, um we're gonna be getting started on that very very early next week It should be quite interesting. I appreciate you guys's great responsive feedback for the we did the Xbox one s versus 500 RPC video So we look forward to Bringing you something else Worthy of your time for the ps4 Pro looking forward to getting started on that pretty soon Yeah, so do you have any thoughts on that? on some of the Some of the sort of comments on ps4 Pro so far apparently it runs much hotter than the original PlayStation 4 and performance doesn't scale very well does that remind you of anything? Performance not scaling well, and it runs hotter. Oh, yeah crossfire Dual GPU Dual GPU, would you do it? Only if I needed to only if I needed to only if like let's find need Let's say that say someone had a gun to your family's head saying if you don't whoa We're starting out in your system. Then we're starting out with excessive violence. I mean what is need? Oh, so for me is like suppose like I'm walking down the street, and I happen to find like oh Here's an ultra-wide monitor or oh Lyons is just giving me two 4k screens He doesn't need anymore because he's such a nice guy you know so and if I'll keep trying John if I just want I Have no need for dual 4k screens but anyway if if I was if I was In a situation where I have some sort of step in front of me that I want to take full advantage of where I'm like Oh, well, okay, this won't be smooth unless I do the dual GPU, then I would go for it, but again That's not something it's not something that I'm going to be looking to do in my personal rig or anything like that So just not worth it. Yeah, at least in my opinion Okay, let's um Let's actually oh you know what we should probably do is get back to that straw poll that we promised to bring everyone the results 13% for yes, so 13% of our at that time about 5,000 viewers knew someone who bought one already, so let's say let's say for the sake of argument that Let's let's do some GFX whatever that site was called math mm-hmm so five so so 300 million that's actually closer to like 330 million right oh People of the u.s. Yeah, I think it's like 320 320 million whatever let's assume. Let's assume there are 10 million in Canada Okay, there's 1 million in Canada divided by 5,000 Okay, so Hold on so hold on divided by 5,000 so that means uh times times 13% I've actually lost myself I'm doing here hold on a second. Maybe try again. What are you trying to do exactly? I'm trying to figure out how many people bought Macbooks MacBook Pros well there's also the fact that the oh no so 13% times 300 Well the the 13% of our viewers they're also skewed because we have a more tech-oriented audience So they're more likely to know someone about a Mac so Apple has sold 42 million nine hundred No 42 yeah 42 million nine hundred thousand MacBook Pros so far in the u.s. The numbers don't lie you heard it here first folks According to my terrible terrible calculator mouse math Indisputable indisputable Oh, you know what shoot we should we should do our sponsors for the day Are you gonna do our Squarespace spot today would you like me to know it's okay? I'll do it. Oh well. 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They're trying to help you They're trying to help you in this case They probably helped him hold on to the presidency because settling was definitely the better option here Forget Mars Trump wants NASA to visit Jupiter's moon Europa and explore the solar system So that's good, but it's only talk until there's actually like a you know Check that gets written But his new space plan focuses on promoting a private-public partnership as well as setting ambitious goals for NASA Trump plans to bring back the National Space Council last in operation under George HW Bush with the goals to explore deep space and Encourage commercial partners to build a new economy in low-earth orbit The space council would be headed by the vice president So does Mike Pence have like space credentials I I I actually I hadn't read the notes on this one space credentials Mike Pence let's have a look here. Well, he used to be governor of Indiana and that is a state that at one point tried to Set the value of Pi to be exactly three by legislative fiat So that happened that was a long time ago to be there's actually got a lot of articles here for missing credentials I like how you actually Google space credentials. I Said that in the worst possible way, but you went with the space credentials Well, I'm not showing off my Google foo right now because I really I really don't I really don't think he has a degree in astrology No, I'm just I'm just I'm just giving it a hard time. It's fine. And that was intentional By the way, I know astrology is not astronomy. Oh Um, I didn't catch that What's your sign Linus? What's my sign stop? That's how you that's that's the that's that's the counter to that pickup line What's your sign stop sign, but I'm not sure I pick you up. How do I know? I mean, it's not the first time that's happened on the land show. So, you know Just saying do we have a chat with Luke about workplace boundaries? We need to have a chat with me about workplace boundaries. We really really do. All right So the Space Council would be headed by the vice president He also has plans to abandon climate research transfer earth monitoring funding from NASA to NOAA and Strengthen the US military stance in orbit So it reminds me of what Reagan was trying to do with the SDI back in the 80s like a little bit It's not the same thing obviously, but I actually I had I have never followed and you know what I think if nothing else this is a testament to the effectiveness of reality TV and the incredible Concoction more potent than cocaine heroin and meth combined that it has turned out to be ever since Survivor burst onto the scene a bazillion years ago But I have never followed US politics before in my life other than being vaguely aware that Like Obama or something was president. Yeah, hope and change or something. He wasn't an old white man For the first time ever which is surprising because all I heard was Canadians follow our politics more than your own Oh, I still followed him. I followed it more than my own anyway until Trump I had never really followed it now all of a sudden. I'm like I'm reading about congressional races, and I'm reading about what some weird senator and wherever the crap is Stan Was doing and like all of a sudden I have like this interest in American politics So I have no idea what Reagan tried to do in the 80s, and if you if you want to enlighten me then go ahead basically So I'm about building stuff in low Earth orbit SDI the strategic defense initiative It was to have I believe Weapons placed in low Earth orbit to sort of counter the Soviets everyone called it Star Wars so basically it's an episode of Animaniacs Ren are no Oh pinky the break in the brain. Why did I think Animaniacs? Wow, it's cuz it started as a segment on Animaniacs, and then it became its own show later on so Didn't know that but thank you. That was a great recovery for me. What you're hired Again, oh, I see what you did there because the apprentice. Oh, yeah. Um, no I didn't oh Oh, you're making I'm making you look great You're making me look like there's so many layers to what I'm saying. This is awesome Let's see Proposed missile defense system intended to protect to protect the US from attack by Ballistic strategic nuclear weapons such as ICBMs from the Soviets So this was this was like proposed back in like the mid 80s I think you know detente and all that was happening, but the cold war still going on and so Reagan was like hey Why don't we just put countermeasures in space and he was serious about it, but I think the funding wasn't there It didn't happen, but you know, but yeah, so it was a little bit before my time obviously, but Cool. All right. Let's move on. This was posted by good to food good to good tofu fries On the forum the original article is from max console dot com good tofu Friday Which sounds like like an amazing like like PlayStation superhero or something so At nmtw has tweeted out the first picture of a ps4 pro Console melting down that is just paint after a few hours in using it. No the thing that makes my skepticism makes my skepticism Helmet appear in my hand to be put onto my I don't actually have a skepticism helmet So I'll wear this Linus tech tips mug, but I got I need a skepticism helmet because every AMD and Intel CPU anyway for like Ten years has had a thermal throttling mechanism built into it that will cause the system to shut down or In I don't know if AMD has this but Intel definitely does or an Intel's case caused the CPU to Throttle so aggressively that many of them can actually continue to run without a heat sink on them I don't actually know if the current ones can do that But there were chips where you could pull the heat sink off and they would run albeit Very slowly with little to no cooling on them So it's it's actually been a very long time Since chips have had no thermal protection cutoff mechanisms Whatsoever and they usually kick in around the 100 to 105 110 degree mark so for someone to have had a PlayStation 4 Pro Melt and I guarantee you this plastic doesn't melt at a hundred degrees No way, no, yeah, no, no, there's no way I'm sticking with that statement This plastic doesn't melt at a hundred degrees also for the air The exhaust air to be 100 degrees The chip itself has to be hotter than that because that's how thermal transfer works. It is a difference in Temperature that causes heat to move from one to the other It causes heat to move from one object to another one when we're talking about conduction That's that's how it moves between them is that one of them has to have less than the other That's how it works. It's like equilibrium and crap Diffusion same kind of principle. I'm not a scientist. Don't worry about that part The fact of the matter is that chip would have to be hotter than the air coming out of that vent Although this isn't a vent so the chip could be like a little bit further away But again the chip would have to be hotter than the PCB that's bone that's connected to the you know heat sink bone That's connected to the you know bracket bone or whatever whatever's next to that plastic. I Don't buy it the last time I had a component legitimately die due to inadequate cooling and We're talking like a CPU or a GPU an advanced component that has like a lot of safeties and logic built into it was I believe a 7900 GT I Want to say 7900 GT because it was back in the days that I was still running MCW 60 GPU only blocks on my SLI video cards and I ran the system With no water in one of them somehow I don't remember it was some careless error and my GPU block melted Like and the card died. That's the last time that's happened Has has this been is this uh? What sort I'm looking for has anyone really duplicate has it been duplicated on mass this result of melting PS4 pros because people were claiming as a hoax and I'm wondering how many people exactly were Reporting this you know because it could just be a guy who? Blowtorch yeah exactly so yep. I mean you look at how Explosively viral like exposing a critical flaw in a hot new product can be you know you look back at something like Unbox therapies iPhone 6 bendgate that's got 40 bazillion views or whatever it is on YouTube That can be a great way to get super internet famous super quickly I've got people saying there are many types of plastic and some do melt at about 100 degrees Celsius Yes, I know that I just don't think they would make a game console that does run hot out of it If they make plastic like serving spoons you can stick in boiling water Which is obviously at least a hundred degrees Celsius then you know you think they could make something for the PS4 fun fact Boiling water is not necessarily at least 100 degrees Celsius it depends on atmospheric pressure. Yes, I know and impurities In the water I have a question I'm not in chemistry. I know I'm just giving an example of why they also In laboratory conditions at one atmosphere Perfect purity it wouldn't be at least 100 degrees Celsius. It would be exactly 100 degrees Yes, because it would no more and no less once it goes up in its water vapor I'm just bugging him because I know he knows this stuff better than I do but I knew a thing and something he said was technically not quite perfectly completely explanative Which is not a word and that's fine and of the entire situation technically explanative the best kind of explanative. There you go Oh the entire twitch chat just like LMAO Linus trying to look scientific Explanative and what this award you win look at that really? Yeah, check it out Explanative Desh and it's serving to explain there you have it. Yeah Yeah, well I'm happy that made my day Warner Brothers acquires gaming culture hub. That's optimistic machinima in a deal rumored to be valued at around a hundred million dollars Why didn't we just start an MCN? Why do we bother trying to actually create content? Why don't we just spam every single YouTube creator and say hey we want to represent you? Give us some of your money and we will represent you I guess we wanted mentally and intellectually stimulating work that could lead us to an exciting future of living in the box behind Arby's That's stupid But I'm totally on board let's keep doing it Um alright, so machinima will operate as a wholly owned part of the recently formed Warner Brothers digital networks group The group houses the studio's digital and over-the-top businesses machinima reaches over a hundred and fifty one million viewers each month Whatever that's based on coordinates a talent network of over 30,000 Exploitees sorry people have people in there Wow don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel machinima This is a quote machinima is a strong gamer and fandom content and social brand with enormous What does that even mean? Why do you think of laughing strong gamer and fandom? content and social brand fandom How do you you can brand fandom content like I mean I kind of get what he's saying But they are a brand but yeah, okay And high engagement with audiences that play our games and our big fans of DC films and television shows What DC films are there you mean Batman vs Superman? Is anyone a fan of Batman vs Superman? What do they have besides Batman and Superman and I guess Wonder Woman is DC isn't she? Yeah, she is but I don't like it seems like nothing It seems like Marvel has like the huge hype train going and DC is like yeah, we're here, too We were cool back when Michael Keaton was Batman. That was pretty cool. Remember that is that your Kerman impression actually? Yeah, it's not bad. That's not all that's not even a hundred percent Kermit That's just me doing like this voice, but I can get a little I can get a little more Kermit very good Maybe I'll use this as an opportunity to try and get people to watch that Channel super fun murder to try it try to watch that Mardi Gras murder mystery video We did over on channel super fun that that no one liked I do my Kermit the frog impression in that video I like how you got Dennis to play a lawyer. That was fantastic. Yeah Yeah, we got Dennis to we got Dennis to do something in that video. That's for sure All right, the HTC Vive goes wireless With a $220 add-on pre-order start today now to be clear. I am not endorsing this Is it going to kill the VR backpack market If it works if it works if it works If it works, yeah, but and if it works I'm gonna be eating my words so hard I've been telling people I think we're like ten years away just because of mostly Because of latency issues. Yeah, because of latency and bandwidth. Mm-hmm I mean there wireless HDMI does exist and low latency video feeds do exist But the latency has to be like spot-on like your your BM The I9 was it at CES earlier this year where you had you had the the rearview cameras and the latency was almost nothing Yeah, yeah, it would need to be like that It would need to be yeah, I should feel like I am looking out of my eyes at a thing. Yeah HTC's Vive chief in China though Tells upload VR that there is no noticeable difference in latency when using the TP cast peripheral Which the verge said and I am 100% backing Sam Byford on this is something we'd have to see for ourselves Battery life is also a concern But Graylin says the regular battery can deliver about an hour and a half of power with a bigger battery designed to be placed in users pockets coming later So it's going to be a little bit clunky, but there's absolutely no way is I mean if it works if it works There's no way it will be clunkier than like a VR backpack solution. Here's the product Vibe.com slash CN. Oh, so TP cast claims it adds less than two milliseconds Which would be within the range of Probably reasonable so hey if they pull it off I will eat my words and I will do it happily because I would love to not have to carry the tether around and I never play for more than an hour and a half at a time because like by then you're Like your face Yeah, yeah, and in use that should surprise absolutely nobody I have almost tripped over the cord once or twice while playing the vibe that we have here So so I'm not sure if what I'm about to show constitutes a violation of twitch's terms of service Maybe oh dear is this thing isn't it so this was posted by Steve Grabowski on the forum The original article here is from Kotaku You know what? Why don't we just kind of how much can we shrink the page to make it like kind of Kind of hard to see like how low you see how low res can we make this you could just put like a little thing on top of it Yeah, why don't I do that? Why don't I do that? But if the point is is that it's not censored like if the whole story is that it's not censored then it seems to kind of defeat the purpose somewhat but you'll just have to take my word for it or go Google it you know Google has lots of Lots of naughty pictures on it I heard or Bing. Really? I can't believe they would allow such a thing So here we go watchdog2 watchdogs2 apparently managed to get this through the ESRB and all the rating systems and all that But apparently has fully modeled female vaginas on some of the female models So this this screenshot apparently from swiss assar apparently proves that there is indeed a vagina in watchdogs2 now again getting into more technicalities here The vagina would not necessarily be visible from the outside because of you know lady and stuff and we might more accurately say fully modeled vulvas because the vagina is kind of an internal I appreciate your use of all the proper terminology I feel like I'm in health class in like that's great again So what we're actually looking at in that picture that I had hidden from you guys is a fully modeled vulva with pubic hair not necessarily a vagina And we don't really have any proof that there are fully modeled vaginas unless we also had like some kind of camera device that we could insert into the female characters but I suspect that did not make it into the game Well if this said it slipped through certification why do we think it necessarily slipped through like Well probably because some rogue artist or a bunch of some people knew about it and some other people didn't So you're saying it's not necessarily on there or in the game on purpose I'm saying that someone put it there on purpose Well I'm talking about when I say on purpose I mean by the people with the final authority as to what it's going to look like Yeah okay so anyway in summary Kotaku reports that if you take a picture and share it to prove this on Playstation Sony will temporarily ban your account Which is interesting So Goron2000 says how he discovered this I received my copy of Watch Dogs 2 on Saturday evening due to a mistake on Amazon Prime And I've been having a great time with the game so far on Sunday evening I accidentally blew up a few women in a back alley with a gas pipe and then I saw it Someone at Ubisoft had rendered a full vagina, again we don't know if it's a full vagina but definitely a full vulva Or maybe more on one or maybe more of the females in the game and he shared a screenshot and had his Playstation account banned from using the game's online features Due to the image breaking Sony's code of contact Despite the fact it's a game they're selling on their own platform So yes Okay Alright so here's a leak from Toys R Us ToysRUs.ca I doubt this is still up Yeah no I think this is just listed here because it's like the source or whatever But the Nintendo Switch is rumored to go on sale at $329.99 Canadian dollars which I guess would put it around $249.99 US Oh look okay look at that they do the math for me Yeah $244 USD So but it definitely won't be It's not going to beat that it's going to be some It'll be $249 At the end of it yeah Probably $249 GBP sorry Europeans and probably $249 Euro Because the conversion rarely works that way sorry guys It's actually really funny how Canadians whine so much about crappy pricing in Canada But more often than not if we're not talking about like stupid kind of like boutique fashion brands or whatever else When it comes to electronics more often than not it's pretty much a straight conversion Plus the additional logistics cost that it takes to get it up here and the additional cost of doing business that Canadian businesses go through Like it's actually electronics pricing is not that bad it's just that the Canadian dollar is kind of all over the place Well there you also have to ask is it suppose the CAD reaches par with our dollar again are the prices up here necessarily going to go down Yeah it happens I've heard that it happens with certain things or to different degrees but not with others like it's not like this uniform So it depends Yeah Logitech for example and this also going back to my product management days Logitech used to assign their CAD to US exchange rate like once a year So back in I think it was 08 when the Canadian dollar absolutely plummeted relative to the USD Logitech pricing was like obscenely expensive no hold on no was cheap yes Logitech was cheap And then it took them so long to respond when the CAD recovered and was actually I believe it passed the USD for a little bit But they were basically par for quite some time Logitech products were just way overpriced in Canada And I took to sourcing them through the grey market buying from US suppliers who were buying from US distributors And then importing them myself because it was the only way to get Logitech products that were reasonably priced So some manufacturers make changes all the time and some of them basically don't adjust like yeah So it really just depends It really just depends on and some of them will only adjust if something really extreme happens and they'll just kind of absorb it If there are small fluctuations one way or the other So someone like Apple might set their Canadian pricing today and then if the CAD goes up relative to the USD They'll be like okay great we made some more profit on that whoop whoop whoop not to say that they necessarily will Because not all of Apple's expenses are necessarily in US dollars that's something people forget Is just because most companies go USA first USD first in terms of their go to market strategy and their MSRP That doesn't necessarily mean that the costs in their supply chain are in US dollars So sometimes even though the US consumer doesn't necessarily see this they could be making more or less from month to month Selling at the MSRP that they've assigned You've got contract manufacturing is Foxconn Chinese or Taiwanese Foxconn is Taiwan no hold on a second I believe they're Taiwan based No crap they might be Chinese based We can look it up very quickly Hold on hold on hold on let me give a final answer before I'm gonna go with China It's Taiwan Crap So you have so you have contract manufacturing in Taiwan and obviously Apple is not just in their tech They have manufacturing in China Oh I'm sure they do but you know Foxconn is heck of a word in Taiwan But either way but they have manufacturing in Asia and they're a huge multinational So yeah there are there's so much that goes on that's not in USD so Yep This is interesting Our original article here was from Ars Technica was posted by Lulz on the forum The FBI operated 23 Tor hidden child pornography sites Deployed malware from them So this is a researcher FBI was likely enabled to run half of all child porn sites on the servers Little creepy little ironic Yeah and like to be clear they were still actual functional child pornography sites They upgraded them to make them run smoothly and all that stuff like they You mentioned the IT person that's tasked to do that as like their job That would be very very stomach turning to say the least Yeah as long as it's not the scene from South Park which turns my stomach You know the guy who monitors the security cameras in the change rooms with the big bottle of lube next to him What episode was this? I don't remember sorry But yeah basically they were acting as a giant lure pretty much So they were using the sites keeping them operating since they were seizing them They were keeping them operating quietly and then they were just using them to track down people who were trying to get child pornography It's like bait car but much more disturbing That is like a very gray legal area though I mean the government is running legal websites I don't know every single tiny minute detail of that but I know generally Are you talking about entrapment or are you talking just about the fact that they're actually running a child porn site to catch people No I'm not talking about entrapment because entrapment you have to be looking for a child porn site to find it Yeah exactly Entrapment Okay do you want to explain the difference? You're the legal guy Okay so the general rule with entrapment in the US is just giving the like if you ever watch the show bait car where the cops will They'll get a car and they'll leave it like they'll take it to like an area that's like it's high crime there's been a lot of car thefts They'll park it in a parking lot or on the curb and they'll just leave it running and they'll walk away and they'll just wait for someone to come and try to steal it And so the person steals the car and they drive for a bit but the cops have like a they have a remote switch that can both kill the engine and lock the door So not only does it demobilize the car but the perp can't go anywhere so they come in and make a very easy arrest We have a bait car program here too And so you can and the reason the cops can do this is because just giving someone the opportunity to commit a crime is not considered entrapment Entrapment becomes a defense when basically the cops induce someone to commit a crime they otherwise wouldn't have but it's like if you go to court it's a hard defense What's an example? Oh geez it's actually a good question because it's so rare that like entrapment defenses are very hard to like get through Okay so let's come up with a hypothetical a hypothetical defense next to a fly swatter store They unleash a swarm of angry bees on someone prompting them to run in shoplift one and swat the bees and then they accuse them of stealing a fly swatter Like is that kind of would that be entrapment then? I'm no expert but I feel like that's a heck of a lot closer to it than you know some of the other stuff that I've heard people think that people think qualifies as entrapment So yeah but yeah even with that question aside yeah I mean I can see why they're trying to do that but at the same time it's like you know it would be like I said it would be pretty stomach turning to be like the people from the FBI who are actually working on that so anyway Speaking of stomach turning AT&T Oh my god AT&T will be downgrading mobile video streams by default next year Stream Saver which you can't opt out of will limit video to DVD quality unless you turn it off Now let's hold on let's get through all the facts here In early 2017 they'll turn on Stream Saver by default the company says they'll let people know when it goes into effect they'll include instructions on how to disable it You know what I'm gonna be really really unpopular right now and I'm gonna say go for it I actually have no problem with this whatsoever I was gonna say the same thing I mean to me if you are as long as they make it clear like this is happening here's how to disable it and make it easy to because a lot of people if they're watching on a smartphone let's say you're watching about this distance a lot of folks won't be able to tell there's between 480 and 720 to begin with and it'll also keep you from eating up tons and tons of bandwidth There are some mobile providers are offering like free YouTube now where it doesn't count against your limit or free Netflix but not everyone does that And that congests the network overall when what this will do is free up more bandwidth for me when I'm trying to freaking I mean I'm not an AT&T customer but when I'm like trying to freaking load up a map like right now and I'm in a hurry I actually don't see this as a terrible way to lower congestion now you could go you could just say well AT&T should just build more towers and they should be but what you also have to understand is that does cost money and like that is a solution but is only sort of a solution because there is a limited amount of like airspace reserved for mobile data spectrum spectrum we like don't actually have a ton left So finding ways to make better use of it is actually a good thing and from my perspective and it's funny because it'll be the tech enthusiasts who are the ones who are perfectly capable of turning this off who are whining about this when I don't think 95% of people will ever even notice Yeah it's look at how long the move from DVD to Blu ray took people and that's that's on a big screen. People don't really care and that didn't even fully happen and no yeah and the thing it got replaced with was streaming which enthusiasts will defend all day streaming is great yes it is but it also is not a proper 10 ADP experience compared to what we have The technology we have where you can buy a movie on Blu ray and it looks a lot better than if you stream it. Much better audio. So I'm kind of looking at this going yeah sure I kind of agree with this so there's that. I'm sure that I'm going to do another ranked video I'm going to do another ranked straw pool. While Linus gets that set up dad sent me a text and he was talking about the celebrity starting to move to Canada he was wondering if you guys can also take back Justin Bieber. No. Absolutely not. Why not. Why would we. Pump some money into the Canadian economy. People who like terrible music I don't know pump some money no because the people who can the people who buy his music are still here, still putting the money into the economy he doesn't have to be here for that concert so. He can perform here without living here. What about like Survivor Canada we can send Bieber to like you know somewhere the Yukon. Survivor Canada. Send to the Yukon. I think Survivor is gone now isn't it. I think it's still going I could be wrong. It's been. Maybe it was American Idol that was gone now or something. Survivor. Survivor. They're on Survivor 33 now we've had that many good Lord so many. Wow. Yeah we're still going. The series was renewed for a 33rd season Survivor Millennials versus Generation X which sounds like the most horrible horrible concept for a Survivor series ever debuted on September 21st. Don't they all sound like the most. This sounds especially horrible. So apparently I am not that unpopular now for my thoughts on the whole 480p thing. What's like the most of the least like is one least unpopular. I didn't make that clear. So. So this is either like really good or pretty bad. I'm not sure. Well at least you know that they feel strongly about what about you one way or another and that's better than apathy. Thank you John. I appreciate that. He pays me to say this stuff. No I'm kidding. All right. Last article for the day. This is posted by Dat Speed on the forum. Google will soon ban fake news sites from using its ad network this cutting off their revenue streams. This seems to be a direct response to the election of president elect Donald Trump who I don't think Google has actually officially acknowledged that they have any responsibility for it and Facebook straight up went nope we're washing our hands of this. But basically fake news including a blog that had risen to the top of Google's results for US election final result or something like that claiming that Trump had won the popular vote that didn't end up being true at all. Fake news and inaccurate reporting played a large role one way or the other in the election campaign that we just witnessed. Would it have changed the outcome if everything that was reported was true. I don't know. I'm not going to get into that. It's not my problem. But what we do know is that Google even if they haven't said that that's why they're doing it. And even if they don't feel bad about their involvement or whatever else the case may be they are moving to make that less of a thing moving forward by cutting off AdSense from sites that use its ad network fund themselves create fake news to get headlines to get traffic and pay themselves for posting misleading information. I do hope that will help and also Facebook I think super super super news as act together because the Facebook trending feature used to be pretty good. They got rid of their human editors. In fact if that headline I remember was correct they got rid of them. They replaced it with an automated algorithm and the stuff that appears now half of it is just complete junk and it's similar to what's going on with Google. I don't know if you've noticed this or not. I'm not sure how much time you spent on Facebook but very very little. I post updates to the LTT Facebook page and then I promptly navigate away from the site. Yeah trending is basically is basically garbage at this point on Facebook. And what's sad is that both the stuff that Google is trying to deal with here and also with Facebook is is it's just like these fake news sites. It's usually one of the two large political echo chambers and that and people will gravitate towards whichever one suits their preferences and they get their quote unquote news from there. So but if you don't keep a close eye on this kind of stuff you're not going to know you know you're not going to realize hey something's happened here where these sites are they're adjusting their you know they're just either their SEO or how they write headlines or anything else to to get to the top of these lists and be taken more seriously. Which is why everyone should watch the land show. The world's only source of actual unbiased news and updates. TM okay and on that note we'll see you again next week same bat time same bat channel. Thanks everybody. I press the button.