 Are you sure? We are live! Now I remember the thing you were gonna fix, the recording light. That's what it was. We don't have one, but that's okay. Guys, we've got a great show for you today. We actually, oh man, we made some crazy, crazy pants videos this week. And by we, I mean me and other people, not you. Wow. But it is what it is, dude. It is what it is. But you guys did something important this week too. That's right. Yeah. What up? Yeah, it apparently didn't excite people who were reading the WAN show title last week. You know, it's an elite few, okay? It was one of the lowest viewed WAN shows in the last year. The people that care, care a lot, and I love you for it. But Flowplain went alpha. Alpha. Oh. Also, you don't want to show that, dude. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, no, I don't want to show that. I super don't want to show that. I'm gonna put, oh, you know what I'm gonna put? Don't put anything, just log in. I'm gonna put Minesweeper. Minesweeper doesn't come on Windows 10, does it? No, it doesn't. That is so stupid. The Windows team at Microsoft hates fun. Why? What is wrong with them? I hate that. You gotta go to the Xbox team for that. All right, anyway. Well, we are off to a super WAN show. We start to the show today there, folks. Let's go ahead. Wait, this is the wrong one, man. That's the wrong one. Why is it called test? Why is it called test? Is it that? Oh, okay, let's get us out of the way here. Click that, right? Yeah, yeah, rock on. Okay, so check this out. So I'm on my home, which the only way to navigate to home right now is to click this, which is not super intuitive. We'll get that sorted out. Don't worry. That's how most websites work. That's fine. The mobile one is a little weird. The desktop, that's completely fine. That's fine. I would say that should probably be like a more kind of different kind of home. That I think is fine. Maybe like actual like float plane home where you browse creators and stuff. Whereas like there should be like an all or something. But we'll figure, you know what? He and I are going to work this out. But basically you can see videos from creators that you follow. Or you could go to the important ones. Wow. Take that, Kyle. And you can see what's gone up in the last week or so. So this is it. This is actually the site. You can subscribe using credit card. It's a little, but you can. Okay, it's not like in the sense that like the credit card data is being handled in a way. Yeah, it's being handled by Stripe. Yeah, like it's just Stripe. It's just like the site itself around it. It's alpha, okay? It works. It's working. But check this out. You can see the videos that we have up on float plane that are not yet on YouTube. So I think most of these are already up. And just so you guys know, if you have a forum account, actually regardless of if you have a subscription or not. But if you have a forum account that has a float plane subscription or a bit with ultra subscription, you can go to floatplane.com, connect to the account. We're not going to show you because LastPass is going to auto fill some information. But if you go to the home page, there's a more sign in options, drop down, buttony thingy, majiggy. Click on that. Click and sign in with the LTD forum. Connect to your account. And then you'll have access to whatever subscriptions you currently have. Oh, smart. Way to go. Because you have add-ons disabled. Because you can enable add-ons in Incognito if you want it. But yeah, click the sign in with LTD forum option. The other ones don't work right now. LOL, don't worry about it. Click the sign in with LTD forum option. Connect to your account and you'll have access, which is great. So there's a couple, at least a couple videos on there that are pretty freaking cool. This is really cool. We've got three VR headsets running off of a single motherboard, single tower using virtualization. We did the top five most insane cases. Yes, that is a case. That is a real case. You can buy it if your ball are enough. These are the feedback on these videos is really cool. These videos is really good. And you can actually see the aforementioned feedback on the floatplane website. Check that out. No way. Oh, hold on. I don't know if audio is on. Sorry, guys. No way. Comments. Oh, okay. We should probably fix that. Jumped back up to the video. Yeah. Oh, no, maybe that. Okay. I don't know what happened there. But anyway, check this out. Comments, comments. Hey, hey, hey. Dig dug et al. This is my first visit here. So these are my initial impressions. Look and feel the site is spot on. Heck, yeah. Very professional looking. There's teething problems. There is. Like needing to log out and then in again after subscribing. Okay. Yep. Were you even aware of that one yet? Yeah, I think so. Okay. The video buffering is an issue. I'm stuck as low as 480p. Oh, okay. Now that's weird because we've actually been done pretty well there. Cool. To see it might be a location thing. There's still some like easing in that needs to happen there. Yeah. Should I do it? Switch to 1080p? See how well it goes? There has been some minor problems with that and we've been doing some re-conjuring with that. So that might be causing an issue right now. Ah, right. Because I think we're trying to change it so that it remembers your last, what you last selected. Properly without jumping to 360 first and then jumping back out. And then jumping back out. And usually if you like pause it and then do it again, it works because alpha, whatever. We're actually also having some issues with our connection here. At the office. Oh, of course. The second I switch, it's like playing fine. So it's working. Yeah. It's the typical, right? Great. Yeah, now it's buffering. I suspect that's actually not float plane. Although it could be at this point because things are in a pretty delicate state right now. But anyway, the alpha's up. The NCIX bankruptcy videos are pretty dope. It worked every other time we showed on WAN Show and it will work again. Yep. Do not worry. What have we got for topics this week? Like did anything, oh right, yeah. Nothing happened. No, no, no, Samsung Galaxy S9 happened. Nope, nothing happened. That happened. What else do we have? The Ryzen 7 2700X is rumored to maybe be happening at some point. Okay, I think this is sort of a big deal. This is back to the Samsung Galaxy S9. Word on the street is that Samsung might be nerfing the Exynos version of the phone. Oh. So that it's not too bad. So that it's not too much better than the Snapdragon 845 version. That's- So as to upset their customers. Okay. So that's pretty interesting. You know, that actually kind of makes sense. Celebrate- Oh, go ahead. It's dumb, but it makes sense. Celebrate is advertising they can now break the security of iOS 11 including the iPhone X. Great. And what else happened this week? Our intro worked. Bam. Oh, wow. Brought to you by Medria's Coffee. Brought to you by Synergy 2. And brought to you by... Honey. I mean, anything sounds kind of weird when you say it like that, but honey sounds especially weird. Honey. Apparently the sound is super quiet on the intro. You know what? Whatever. Nice. No, that's good. Someone says they needed that for bingo. So, you know- Needed what? Your loss is someone else's gain. I think screwed up intro. Nice. All right. I don't know, man. I don't know, man. All right. Let's jump right into our first topic here. How would that be for- And someone's gonna lose their bingo if we start talking about tech any sooner than like 20 minutes into- You know, it wouldn't surprise me. There's a lot of stuff that happens on this show, a lot, that probably shouldn't happen on this show quite so much. The creator of Wancho Bingo tweeted me. I felt pretty special. Yeah. Yeah. That's good. That's good. So, this was posted by Edward the Weeb on the forum. Thanks for that, Edward. There's the unnecessarily loud laugh tile. The original article is from WCCF Tech. AMD's second generation Ryzen 7 at 2700X, rumored to be 8-core 12- Excuse me. 8-core 16 thread, 3.7 gigahertz base, up to 4.2 gigahertz boost with XFR. So, what this tells us is that second generation Ryzen is looking like a pretty small sort of tweak, you know, ironing out a couple wrinkles. You know, don't expect all of a sudden to be getting, you know, 48 core versions that are clocked at 5 gigahertz or anything like that. Evolutionary rather than revolutionary. But, let's see, 16 megs level 3 cache, 4 megs level 2. Might bring price drops to the previous gen? That might even be more interesting than anything. I'd be surprised if it does, to be perfectly honest with you. Is this going to be priced above then, or do you think they're just going to- I think they're going to slot these in above the existing ones. Here you can see the spec sheet comparison. So, there's the 1700X, here's the replacement 2700X. So, we're going down to 12 nanometer, which gets us anywhere from 200 to 300 megahertz, and we're going to see higher clock speeds, higher clock speeds, at the same TDP. One year later. So, I mean, okay. I can see some people being disappointed, because Ryzen was like, I forget what AMD was quoting. It was like 40% or like 60% better than their previous generation. But that's not fair. Actually hadn't really done a whole lot in the last four to five years leading up to it. And so, as much as it's easy to harp on Intel for these incremental generational improvements in CPU performance, now we're seeing that when all AMD has to work with is a very small manufacturing process shrink, it's really hard to do those generational leaps in performance, the way that they did way back in the day, like when AMD went from the Barton core to Sledgehammer, Quahammer, I think, were the first, were those the first Athlon 64s? Within minutes of announcing. Oh, okay. Well, that's fun. And like when Intel went from the Netburst family up to Conroe. So, that doesn't really happen that often anymore. And it's funny, now that I think about it, when Intel did it way back when, that was because they had been not necessarily sitting on ass for a few years, but they had been barking up the wrong tree for a few years. That's for sure. Yeah. So, hmm, I wonder how long it has been since we've seen like a massive improvement. Like where could we find the last one? Maybe it would be Athlon 64. On AMD's side? Or you mean in general? Yeah, no, just in general. The last time we saw a really big generational improvement. With that said, Conroe to Intel's integrated memory controller was a pretty big leap too, because we went, no, because they introduced quad core first. Hard to say. In terms of, I know it wasn't in a lot of different ways, but in terms of like customer understanding and usability, which is a weird thing largely due to naming, but Sandy Bridge? Okay. You think so? I think a lot of people kind of got it more. Okay. So, you know what? I'm going to pick my moment. For me, the biggest CPU improvement in performance was not actually Barton to Clawhammer. For me, the biggest difference I saw was from... Yeah, again, my point is not just performance stuff. Like I felt like the community, like paying attention to forums and stuff like that, I felt like people understood more with that one, because the product naming scheme I think made more sense for a lot of people. So I think it was Winchester was the last single core. No, Venice might have been. San Diego? Oh crap. Which one was it? Athlon 64 models. Apparently something wrong with the camera. Something wrong? Oh, looks okay to me. Hello. Yep. Okay. The camera is tilted? What? Yeah. Okay. So I... Oh, no, no, it's not centered. Yeah, the thing is... Yeah, whatever. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Yeah. Yeah, I'm over it. Also, there's some moire in your sweater if we want to get really upset about little things that we don't worry about on the LAN show. So for me, the big one was going from single core Athlon 64 to... I think it was the Toledo core going to dual core Athlon 64, because that was... It wasn't a big improvement for gaming. People really accept that the camera is tilted. What are they? Sorry, just keep going. I'll be back. Oh, Lordy. I can't do it myself. I'm gonna get... Okay. Oh, Max is here. Max is coming to save us. Because it wasn't a big improvement for gaming. You gotta remember that games did not benefit from dual core CPUs back in those days. But what it was was a huge improvement to the gaming experience if you had things running in the background. And it was a huge improvement to really the experience of doing anything at the same time. That was when multitasking really happened for me. And that's a really big deal, especially in terms of user experience. And it's the same way... And you know the funny thing is I remember arguing on forums about dual core back in the day, because people who didn't see the bigger picture, who just saw the benchmarks on whatever the site they preferred was, and saw that in all their favorite games it didn't make a difference, those people would come out and say, you're paying literally twice as much for literally twice as many CPU cores, and it doesn't make any difference. And it's the same argument that I would have with people when SSDs were first starting to gain popularity. Where they'd go, well, the benchmarks don't indicate a significant difference in performance other than like boot time and their very low capacity. But it feels amazing. But it feels really different, and that's what it was like then. And honestly, since the first good SSDs, so like back when Intel launched the X25M, I haven't really had that experience again. What was the first... I'm not gonna Google, I'll just ask you, you probably know. What was the first generation that Intel introduced K for their unlockable SKUs? I believe it was the 2600K. Yeah. So this is kind of what I'm talking about. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, there was an 875K. Was there? Yes. And back then, so the 875K was... Crap. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Linfield? Linfield, yeah. Linfield, yeah, Linfield. So Linfield was architecturally the same as Bloomfield, which was the high-end socket 1366 platform. I think it would be fair to say that Sandy Bridge popularized that, though. Yeah. So that was a big difference for you? I think so. Interesting. I found on forums and discussing with my friends and all this kind of stuff, people understood it a lot more when Sandy Bridge came around, and they changed the number of schemes of things. It was easier to understand like i5, i7. Really? 2600K, 2500K, K, non-K, all of that kind of stuff. We're taking this to a straw poll. We're taking this to a straw poll because... It could be my little bubble. I don't know. I wanna know... Okay, so there's a couple of angles to this, but I'll get into it. Okay. Core IX. More or less confusing than before. And to be clear, if you wanna understand the entire stack, it might even be slightly more confusing. But if you're like, is this one better or worse? Brrr. It's kind of easy. Okay, guys, hit that straw poll. I've got that in the Twitch chat. Hit the straw poll. Okay, so here's the problem. Within a generation and within a product family, remembering that laptop product family is not the same as desktop product family and not the same as enterprise product family, then I can see core i3, core i5, core i7 being simpler to understand. However, from generation to generation, I would argue... Oh, and it got way worse. I'm just saying with that generation, I brought people into understanding, and I feel like a lot of people held on after that. But yes, it got messy. It was really confusing. I mean, nowadays, you'll see posts on Craigslist where people are just saying core i7 PC. Yeah. $300 or whatever. That's terrible. You're just gonna go... But we're way beyond. We're not in the Sandy Bridge generation anymore. Okay. Okay. And now I think understanding has gone up as a whole. So you see that and you go, I know that's BS. And then you look into it. I think the understand... And I know people are gonna agree. Wow! This is like 50-50. I don't remember the last time I saw our community this evenly split. That's crazy. I think Sandy Bridge brought the understanding of the entire industry as a community up. And I think people held on. This is people saying, is it confusing in general now? It's confusing now. It's a mess now. Absolutely. But I think the knowledge base as a community has gone up. Okay. And you can argue, well, I was on overclock.net back in 2003 and we understood way more back then. Sure. Yeah, definitely. OCN is not a good sample to pick from, though. Yeah, because you're all hardcore. You guys are not representative of the general population. All the forum dudes. Yeah. Probably knew what was going on. Yeah. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm going a little bit... I mean forums as in like gaming forums and stuff, not like overclocking computer hardware forums. So this is an interesting point. Onik Cage in Twitch chat said something kind of insightful. LTT viewers are more technical in general. So if 50% of us see it as more confusing, regular people have no hope. I don't think that's... But what's interesting, where I'm going with this, is think about it this way. I think regular people who go, yeah, I get it. I3 is less than I5 is less than I7, would actually vote less confusing. Yes. Even if they didn't know it, but they were really confused. Or are totally wrong. Right? Definitely, yeah. So... Which is what I liked about Sandy Bridge. Right. And then they just... Over years of different launches and releases. Okay, so this is interesting. This is a really good point. From NFSM654. With Sandy Bridge, some of the Core I5s were dual core with onboard graphics. Yeah. So this was before Intel standardized on onboard graphics being on everything. Because they were still building the IGPU on the package, but not onto the die yet. So quad core chips didn't have enough room for onboard graphics, and the dual cores did, meaning that inter compatibility on motherboards was actually quite confusing. There was some wacky backy stuff there. Yeah. So... I still maintain, I think the overall knowledge base of the community went up. And some of that's definitely boiled into, okay, there was a really weird naming change that just happened. What's going on? Sorry, did I say Sandy Bridge? Linfield? I'm sorry, Linfield. Linfield. Yeah. I think a lot of it was what's going on, and people talking about the differences between different processors, and what threads are, and all of this other kind of stuff. And like differences between threads and cores. A lot of these conversations started around the Sandy Bridge time, and a lot of people actually cared about processor specs. And now it's kind of a mess. And a lot of people are interested in CPUs, but the more recent interest in CPUs has been, hey, there's competition now. What's better? Explain to me what's better. And that's because AMD should know. I like AMD. I finally have something to upgrade to. Yeah. Woo! So I'm not necessarily saying that it was a good thing. I'm not saying, I'm just saying that the, I think the knowledge base as a whole increased at that time. Right. And I like that. All right, let's move on to... The tilt is back. I don't know, I don't care anymore. Let's move on to the Galaxy S9. So this was posted in the forum by D13H4RD2LIVE. Die hard to live in the very worst Leet speak of all. And there's no spaces. But anyway... Did you notice that Edward the Weeb had your, like, cat ear long purple hair photo thing? That was his avatar? No, no, I did not. It was. All right, so the original article here is from TechCrunch.com. Their headline is, With the Galaxy S9, Samsung put the fingerprint sensor where it belongs. And I guess that's probably the headline, because there isn't a whole lot else to say about it. I actually missed my briefing today that I was supposed to attend. Oh no! I still don't have a device. How will we know what its specs and stuff are? But fortunately, sort of news flash for the Canadian PR team, the rest of the world is a thing, and the internet is a thing. Wow, the internet! Whoa! And so I can just read about this stuff on other publications, websites. That's amazing! Where they already know this stuff, because they already had their briefings like a week ago. Not that I'm salty or upset or anything, it's just that it's like... Whoa! Being in Canada is like a big dick slap sometimes. You don't matter as much. Yeah, your population is literally one-tenth of the US, less than the state of California. You know what? We don't give a spit. Anyway, it's got the best DXO mark rating ever of 99. Though it should be noted that the Pixel 2 is at 98, and the iPhone X is at 97. So we really are splitting hairs at this point. It looks pretty similar to last gen, but better camera, as I just mentioned. Snapdragon 845 in the US and China, and then Exynos, whatever the crap it is, something 9, something elsewhere. They moved the fingerprint sensor to a more usable spot, I think I already said that. They're gonna have anemogies. Though to be clear, they're not normal emojis like apples, they're more like Wii Miis or Bitmoji. Do you remember Miis on the Nintendo Wii? Well, I don't know. Probably the biggest Nintendo fanboy you know, man. Did they have it on the Wii U? Yeah. Wait, did you have a Wii? You had a Wii. Yeah. Yeah, okay. I play more Wii now than I did when it launched. It's still great, actually. There's still a lot of good stuff. I only play Wii Sports. Yeah. My son loves Wii Sports. Wii Sports is amazing! I actually, I interrupt this very compelling news about the Samsung Galaxy S9, to bring you a personal confession. Something that is actually really hard for me to talk about. It's actually related to the Nintendo Wii. So, as some of you probably know, my son is about five and... Wow, he's almost six! Holy crap. Wait, did he beat you at something? Shut up. Okay, let me just... I need to ease myself into this, okay? So, my son is almost six and... Could you maybe enjoy this a little less? I'm so excited. Sorry, continue. My son is almost six... Shut up! Just keep going. Just chill out. I believe in you. So, my son is almost six and he's been playing Wii. We actually created a Mii for him when he was like three and a half. I was like trying to see if like the stick waggling was simple enough that he could do... It wasn't. He was just like... It was simple enough that he could do... It wasn't. He wasn't ready yet. But over probably the last year or so, he's gotten to the point where he actually uses the Wii more than the Vive, which is depressing for a whole other set of reasons. Yeah. But he's gotten to the point where he's played enough Wii Sports that first, he was like a pro in Wii Tennis, right? You know how you can play against the computer and you get over a thousand skill level and you're a pro. At tennis. In the tennis one. The tennis one's pretty easy. But he got to the point where he was not just a pro, but he had a skill level of like 1650 or something, which was more than mine. Mine was 1400 and something. But the reason that my skill level wasn't very high was I never played single player. I would always play against my wife or like my sister-in-law because the last time I used the Wii was when I still lived with my wife's parents. So it was like the family console and we'd like tool around on Sunday night playing Wii Sports or whatever. Yeah. Okay. So I was quite a bit better than my skill level would indicate. So he would go all like five-year-old kind of sulky. My skill level's higher, but you still beat me. Like without even using the cheap return whenever you miss a power smash. There's a cheap return that if you time, it's not even that hard to time, but it's ungettable on both the forehand and the backhand if they don't manage to time. They manage to power serve. And so I would beat him without even using that. Then, and he'd complain, he'd be whining about it. Then, like a couple months later, I'm playing against him and he takes a set. And I'm just like, ah, okay. Like I wasn't really paying attention. I was holding the baby in the other hand and I was like, oh, shoot. Well, okay. Darlin, can you get down? I gotta beat your brother at Wii Tennis. Then he takes another set and I go, what? So I'm like, okay, full on cheap mode now. So I'm doing cheap returns, like ungettable returns. I'm power serving everything to him and I win it. So I take three sets in a row and he's like, oh, I almost beat you. Literally like two weeks later, he sweeps me. And I'm like, is this petty? You know what? I don't care. Rematch. I asked for a rematch. I asked my five-year-old son for a rematch. He beats me again. Three straight, three straight again. I don't even feel bad about him kicking my ass at Wii Boxing. Because Wii Boxing is quite frankly just who can flail the best. And I'll play against him and I'll try and time punches and it's just like, come on. It's better to flail. It's actually better to flail. And it's so funny. The way he plays it is so funny. I have a video of him doing this that I'm saving for his wedding. But instead of just going like this, he gets his whole body going. And it's just like... So the kid will come out of playing a couple games of Wii Boxing drenched. And I'm like, wow, this is great. Because the whole idea behind the Wii was that it was more physical. Until jackasses like me figured out that they could play Twilight Princess like this. And like, yeah, I'm still joystick waggling or whatever, but I'm not moving. So I can still kick his butt at golf. I can still crush him at bowling. I actually almost got a perfect game. I missed one pin on the first one, which made me feel a lot better. Then all strikes through to the end. And then I missed one pin on the end. So I'm actually really glad I missed that one pin at the beginning. Because otherwise that one at the end wouldn't have been a perfect game. I missed one pin at the beginning, because otherwise that one at the end would have destroyed me as a person. Yeah, Wii U Sports Club. Oh, is there a Wii U one? Okay, cool. Maybe I should get a Wii U. It's probably cheap. And then what's the last game? Oh, the baseball. Baseball on the Wii is just stupid. Yeah, he beat me at baseball. But baseball is just a matter of who luckily connects with a pitch. Because as soon as a human is pitching, you can just throw all the cheapest garbage and it's unhittable. Do you have the improved sensors? I don't. I don't think Wii Sports is Wii Motion Plus compatible though, so I don't think it matters. The Wii U controllers have it built in. And they're the same size as the default controllers. Which is kind of nice. Cool. And I believe all Wii U games work with it because it's the default controller. Yeah, okay. Well, maybe I'll get a Wii U at some point. But anyway, that was my confession. It actually happened. I was actually trying. Not just trying. Already. Like I was hitting cheap shots that I knew he didn't know about. This is like playing NHLPA 94 and doing wraparounds on the bottom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When someone else doesn't know about it. Like that is... To be fair... That's how I was playing. Wraparounds are pretty easy to pick up on if someone's doing it to you. Yeah. But yeah. Dude, man. Like I... That's pretty rough. Yeah. What is the number one game that would hurt for him to be better than you at? You know, I'm not really that good at anything. Like there's games where I just really wouldn't expect him to ever be better than me. Like I don't think he'll ever be better at a side-scroller. Just because that genre is not really popular. Like modern side-scrollers, what? Like Trine? Like that's not a... Yeah, not so much. There's some games that are just like... Some really niche, like ultra-hardcore games. Yeah, like you could argue the Super Meat Boy is a modern-ish side-scroller. But even that's like years old. And like it's a dying... It's... It was like a... Yeah. It was like you like press down on the chest of the corpse and it's like... Like it's not breathing anymore. It's just like a last gasp, so to speak. Cuphead doesn't know. Like so yeah, I wouldn't... Yeah, Cuphead's not... That's not... It's not Super Mario World. Yeah. It's more advanced than that. There's more... There's a lot more to it. So if he were to beat me... Like if he were to be better than me at like Super Mario World, I'd feel pretty devastated. But I don't expect that to happen. It would be kind of like... It would be kind of like me being better at shuffleboard than my grandparents. Like yeah, if I put enough time into it, I could probably do it, but I wouldn't care. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like I'd be concerned about him. If you care that much about old games. I hear you. So... Badminton. No, I fully expect him to be better than me at badminton. I am planning to be... When do you think that will happen? I'm going to be paying like $75 an hour for badminton coaching for him within the next few months. Oh. Like he is going to... You're going prodigy level. He's going to the best badminton facility in Canada. He is going to be... It's here actually. Oh. Arguably. There's been more national level players. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But other places have done well too. They've had good products as well. And then if he's good enough, I would happily pay for him to train overseas if it comes to that. So as far as I'm concerned, if he is not beating me at badminton by the time he's about 11 or 12, then we need to reevaluate. Because I'm not that good. So... He's into it, yeah? He likes it. Yeah, yeah, because he's already brought him. Like no, he's already playing a couple times a week. I knew that. I wanted to get that out of you so that Twitch chat knows that you're not just being that kind of dad. He's already playing a couple times a week. He likes it. I also fully expect him to be better at martial arts than me. Although by the time he gets like a... Oh shoot, this is going to happen sooner than I thought about. But by the time he hits like nine or 10 and he hits sort of like red, brown belt, I'm probably going to have to try and get back into it so I don't get passed too quickly there. But yeah, I fully expect him to be better than me at everything. If he's not, then I failed as a parent because that's your job. Can I be like a boss along the way? A boss? Yeah. I think he's probably going to be quite a bit smaller than you forever. Have you seen his mother? But he'll be more skilled. He'll be more skilled. He'll be like the light character that you choose on the fighter's ground. The funny thing about that is there's a reason that like the UFC doesn't have heavyweights fight lightweights. It's like Chun-Li wouldn't actually stand a chance against Blanca. But the little dude that he just made jujitsu can kick my butt. So that's a thing. Okay. Eventually I'll get there. With that said, if you weren't jujitsu-ing and you just went for a football tackle, does that still go down that way? Probably not. He's a very nice guy, okay. So within the constraints of the sport, you get your butt kicked. But yeah. Speaking of within the constraints of Wensho, sponsor spots. Let's start with Synergy 2. If you have two computers or more and you have one desk, Synergy 2 is the way to go. It's a software-based mouse and keyboard. Sharing solution that works on Windows, Mac, and Linux computers. Is that out on Floatplane yet? Because that is a sick video. Do you know about this yet? No. We did a showcase piece for Synergy and we were kind of sitting around going like, okay, how do we do this? Yeah, there is an export for this. I'm just going to pull it up. I don't think it's actually live on Floatplane yet, but I'm going to pull this up because it's really cool. I just want to show the demo here. But we were sitting around going, how do we do a video for Synergy that's not just a shill piece that's actually cool? And we were like, oh, I don't know. Maybe we could just do a shill piece and then it might actually be cool. And it worked out really well. Check this out. Okay, that ended up being a little more dramatic than I hoped. I'm just going to skip ahead to the demo. I'm just going to skip ahead to... Okay, check this out. So they're all firing up. That's Windows 7, Mac OS, Windows 10, and Linux. And then what I can do with this monitor, this is that LG monitor. That's cool. Right? That's cool. And then you can switch full screen with the remote for the monitor. So I was using the remote there. You can just go... You can get out of picture by picture and go full screen to any one of them in 4K60. And then you can press another button to go back to your tile setup. Cool, right? That is pretty cool. So you can effectively be using four different operating system workstations at once. And switch between full screen and having all of them. And then when they're all on. So there's a toggle for Synergy 2 that they're adding or they'll have either added it by the time this goes live or they've added it already. So that through the taskbar of any one of them, you can toggle Synergy 2 on and off so that when you go full screen, your mouse doesn't fly off the edges. Yeah, yeah. Because all of the full screen versus not full screen, that's being handled in hardware by the monitor, not by the Seamless 2 software. That's a really cool setup. Isn't it? I can actually think of a lot of different industries that would like that. Oh, absolutely. So it's one of those niche things. But for the people who are into that, pretty freaking cool. So anyway, Synergy 2 makes it easier than ever to mouse and keyboard share between multiple systems. They've got new networking backend that helps with complex networks. They've got, oh, the SSL encryption has been moved from the pro to the basic tier. So all users can benefit from encryption. And the new background service on all platforms lets users control all their machines before they're even logged into the computer. So get 50% off your purchase of Synergy 2. 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Oh, instead of trying to time your button press, it will apparently AI try to detect where the action is in the clip and apply slow-mo to that part. Yeah, I guess at 0.2 seconds you wouldn't even have time for end trigger. Okay. We'll see. This is interesting. So the original article here is from Anontek. I was just browsing through and I don't really know how this wasn't bigger news. I mean, Anontek called it awkward first results. That's one way of putting it. But in a nutshell, it'll be either Exynos 9810 or Snapdragon 845. And if we go down, bit-bit-bit-bit-bit-bit. What's the final clock speed? What's the final clock speed that they'll use? Blah-blah-blah, blah-blah-blah-blah. Active, blah-blah-blah, memory latency, et cetera, et cetera. Okay. Big little design. Here we go. Here we go. Ooh. So Geekbench 4 single core performance. Snapdragon 845 got absolutely crushed by the 9810. How very interesting. Last generation, et cetera, et cetera. Okay. Again. Oh, wait. That's still Geekbench 4. That splits it out. PCMark Work 2.0. So the 9810 does not crush the Snapdragon 845 here. Where is it? Yep. There. Snapdragon 845 is right up on the top. But basically... Oh, thank you for that. Okay. What seems very clear is something's wrong. Oh, no! Oh! Luke was plugging in my power. Did I actually not make it? Almost got it. By like milliseconds? Almost got it. Oh, man. Oh, that was great. No, it's fine. They can't see it. Okay. Oh, man. Okay. So clearly there's something kind of wrong. And basically the writer checked in with Samsung. Here we go. I did get confirmation. Okay, here we go. Samsung spokesman confirmed that the demo unit was running special firmware for Mobile World Conference. So these results, because you can clearly see they're totally bunged up. Yeah. Because the PCMark score has the Exynos 9810 getting creamed by even the last generation Exynos. Yeah. Last generation Snapdragon. And of course, current generation Snapdragon. So clearly something's wrong here. So confirmation that the demo units were running a special firmware and they might not be optimized. He's having a hard time believing they would so drastically limit the performance of the device for show units. Honestly, I don't find that that hard to believe. All kinds of games get played with phone firmware for shows and even for reviewers. But check this out. Did get confirmation that Samsung is planning to tune down the Exynos variant to match Snapdragon performance. Wow. So I'm actually not sure how that wasn't bigger news because I can see a lot of different ways that people can get upset about this. And I can't see a lot of ways where people wouldn't be a little bit upset about this. So the two ways I can see people being upset. Upset number one would be if I got a Snapdragon 845 Galaxy S9. Because there's always controversy there. Yeah. And with Apple, it was even... So what was it? A10 was the first one they did it on where they dual sourced from TSMC and... And then one of them was better than the other. I forget. Yeah. One of them was arguably sometimes better than the other. And it was mostly in terms of battery life where people were getting upset. Because one of them was a little bit more power efficient, but it was close enough. I think it was within 5%. Like it was close enough that you were also playing around with the variations in battery capacity at that point. So I can see people being upset about getting the perceived trashier chip. The other thing I could see people being upset about is if you're in the European or Asian market and you've got an Exynos 8895... Having it be nerfed. And see, this is probably one of those situations... You're like, yo, what's up, Samsung? This is probably one of those situations where Samsung realized that these problems could happen. So they decided to try to quietly make it work. These problems could happen, so they decided to try to quietly make them the same so that people wouldn't argue. Which, you know, from a certain standpoint, I kind of understand. They're like, we just don't want people to freak out. So if we make everything the same, then it's great. But then people are going to freak out because then they should have gotten an advantage. Is this Samsung kind of going, well, you know, the Canadian region probably won't care about this phone until such time as it's available through Canadian carriers, so let's just not bother briefing them. Like, is this them going, you know what, outside of the US, Americans probably don't read non-American news outlets, so they're probably not going to look that closely at the Exynos version. So as long as we seed all the US outlets with Snapdragon ones, it should be fine. Is this them going, okay, as long as we keep it contained within a region, then no one will figure this out. And you know, the mainstream consumer probably wouldn't. Is that what's happening here? Wow. I think, okay, so I think it's been proven many, many, many times that nerds are going to figure it out. Mainstream consumer, no, mainstream consumers not going to care. There's an iterative number. They're going to see it's the S9 and they'll want it if they're getting a new phone for whatever reason. Okay. I've got a lot of people asking this and we really need to, we really need to address it. Can't find the first person who asked it, but let's go down to this one. Who was it? Man. Something, something. Okay, whatever. The question is why, here we go. Derfurer123, oh, seriously, why did I read that? Why doesn't Samsung use Exynos in the US and China? And then another person asked why does Samsung, not a designer and fabricator of mobile CPUs, not use their, why do they use Qualcomm CPUs in their phones? And the answer is actually a little more interesting than you might at first think. There was a different word I was looking for and I'm, I'm complicated. No, it was like delicate, but it wasn't delicate. It was a little more subtle, a little more whatever, I forget. So the reason, I'll say radio compatibility is actually one factor, but Samsung could probably figure out how to support more bands with their chipset if they really wanted to hard enough. But one of the- Nuanced. Nuanced, thank you, that's the one. No, that was the chat. Good job, chat. Oh, thank you chat, nuanced. I just, I read it in chat and I was like, absolutely. So there are business reasons for doing it. So first of all, within Samsung's different business units, like for example, their fabrication unit that also, as you guys probably know, builds RAM or an NAND flash or even processors for competitors. Within Samsung's different business units, I have it on fairly good authority that Samsung unit A won't actually get a discount compared to the open market from Samsung unit B. So if Samsung mobile wants to buy NAND flash for their phones for storage, they don't get like a discount compared to if Apple were buying it. It's all down to that business unit, the fabrication business unit needing to make the best profits they can and negotiating deals based on volume, based on capacity, based on all the things that they would normally do. So there's one reason why Samsung mobile might not be married to Exynos chips. Reason number two is that building a CPU is really hard every time. Look at Snapdragon 810, even Qualcomm, who has been other than Apple, basically the undisputed leader for a lot of the last few years can really screw it up sometimes. So if Samsung were to just say, for our Note and S lineup, we are not going to use your top tier chips, we're going to stop marketing Qualcomm technology being good, we're going to burn this bridge because we can make our own CPUs. If Samsung were to do that and then flub up a generation or two generations of chips, they could put their Galaxy S or Note products at a significant disadvantage compared to the LGs and HTCs of the world. Guys who didn't invest in that fabrication technology but also aren't taking that risk. So Samsung is dual sourcing not just to make up fab capacity, which as far as we can tell is why Apple does it, also to play the different fabricators against each other. Oh yeah, that's another reason. So that they can play Samsung's own business unit against external ones. Where was I going with this? Right, so there's also a business reason for dual sourcing, not just to make up fab capacity but also to hedge your bets. So Samsung has the ability to ramp up and do Exynos in more regions if Qualcomm ships a dud again, but they can also cover for their own dud in the event that Qualcomm's technology is significantly better. That's a huge one. And Samsung, they can't really, okay, I'm 100% certain they can afford it, but I'm going to say in this immediate point in time. Apparently they're also legally required to use their chips in their phones. It's a 25 year old agreement. Weird. So that's another one. But having another big launch failure would be really bad, this close to their phone bombs. Remember too, Samsung could also just use Qualcomm chips in their lower end stuff. It's not like Samsung doesn't have a bazillion models of phones. But why they might do it within a single model. There's a lot of reasons. So there's that and then there's all the other stuff that we're talking about as well. All right, apparently also Qualcomm CDMA patent and licensing. So until CDMA goes away, they'll just basically be forced to. But with all of that said, I have an Exynos Galaxy S8, it works fine in the States, but it just might not work on all carriers. So it wouldn't work on Sprint. Who else is still CDMA? CDMA will be going away sometime in the next little bit. It can't be that many carriers though. I don't think it's that many. I don't know who uses CDMA still. Who in Canada? Bell did until recently. I don't know if they do anymore. They might be GSM now. I don't pay that close attention. So AT&T, really? They're all still using it? Sprint, Verizon and US Cellular. I didn't know Verizon was still using CDMA. AT&T, NT Mobile or GSM? Fun, according to Google anyway. And then apparently Bell Mobility in Ontario and Quebec is still CDMA. Tell us the CDMA here. There you go. Interesting. But we don't know necessarily that they're only using it. So yeah. Again, I don't pay that close attention to that stuff because I'm just not that big of a cell phone nerd if I'm going to be honest with you guys. What else do we have for news? I don't know. I just got dropped out of the dock for no reason. Happens once a show. Really bad timing. I don't know why it does that. Perfect. Celebrite is now advertising they can break the security of iOS 11 including the iPhone 10. They're pretty cheap too. This article is from Forbes. They do have to have the phone physically in their possession. Yep. So you'd have to ship it to them and apparently it can cost as little as $1500 per unlock. Their service can determine or disable. Determine or disable. That's a big difference actually because determining if you get someone's phone temporarily when they lost it and you ship it off and get their pin and then get it back and get whatever you want and then be like, oh my God, I found your phone. Yeah, not great. Yeah, they can determine or disable the pin pattern password screen locks or pass codes on the latest Apple iOS and Google Android devices. Yeah, brutal. So we have to take this with a grain of salt because Celebrite's business is breaking security of devices for like forensic data analysis. So they might just be looking for some free press but it seems like it would be sort of a bad move to put out something that's designed to get you a bunch of free press and then anytime anyone contacts you about it, you can't actually do it. So they haven't even publicly announced it but apparently they're advertising the capability to their customers. So that sounds pretty credible. They can determine or disable the pin, the pattern, the password screen locks or pass codes on the latest devices. Wow. Wow. Wow. Pretty brutal. I'm not a fan of this really. That's pretty much it actually. Is there like anything else that happened this week that like is super important? We don't have anything else in the dock because James has been busy on a really cool project. Have you even seen this yet? No. Like you're so out of touch these days. Wow. So we built, well James built. You lost to your son in tennis. Huh. You know what? Tell you what, why don't we play? I'll play. I'll get wrecked but I'm down. I'm down. So it's fun. I'll get wrecked but it sounds entertaining. Anyway it's a cool project. So I was kind of inspired by the tape deck that we have in our house for some reason and you know how you used to be, you pressed like a physical button, like a mechanical button to kind of, to switch things. So I was like you know what would be really cool? A gaming set up where you've got like a tactile button for switching between your different devices. Different devices? Yeah. So, because, you know, PC gaming is not the only kind of gaming. Yeah, I got you. So James and Anthony collaborated. We didn't actually end up with as cool buttons as I'd hoped. They're like, vandal resistant switches, unfortunately. But, but what is cool is that I wanted to work like an RGB element into it. So they built a desk, not quite scratch built, but like used the Ikea desk builder then modified it quite heavily that has a bunch of circuitry in the top including an Arduino and an HDMI switcher. So that what you can do is there's three RGB color coded lights on the front for the three gaming systems that are in shelves working their way down one side. And then when you, so when you press the red one, it does the top and then the RGB lighting in the drawer illuminates and the input switches on your monitor. This legit sounds like a sellable thing. So you're on your PC. Then you press the second button, the RGB lighting illuminates matching the button, the middle one, and you switch to your Xbox. Press the third one, you switch to your PlayStation 4 Pro. That's really cool. Pretty cool, right? You guys should figure out how to sell this as a kit. It's kind of janky still. It would require significant further development to make it ready for prime time. That'd be so cool though. But you know, we, okay. So we know a lot of other guys out there have been doing like setups for a while. And so for us, you know, we, we've had some ideas for setups, like you saw the projector one, right? With the projector built into the desk. That was very cool. Yeah. So we've had some ideas for setups, but like we really wanted to find a way to make sure that what we're doing is different from what anyone else is doing. So that was where the idea of projector built into your desk or like a physical button to switch inputs between your different gaming systems came from. And I really like it. I think this is something that we're going to continue to do. And you know, I'd love to see people's ideas if you want to post them on the forum. I am actually fairly active over there. I don't post a lot, but I do read a lot. Yeah. Yeah. I really, I'm really happy with it. All right. So I think that's pretty much it. Cool. We have a ton of people. No, yeah. Viewing too. We've got like 6,000 viewers and then we've got a bunch of people cheering. Oh, this is a new thing. Oh yeah. So it used to just show the top cheer like ever. Yeah. Now it shows the weekly top cheers and it like totals their cheers. So like this dude, I'm a broke dude who's hilarious, hilariously number one cheerer right now. That's why you're broke. Yeah. Then maybe you stop that. If he talks in chat, if any of these top three talk in chat, they have a little metal next to the name and his will show a one, his will show a two and be silver, his will show three and be bronze. And then the one guy's is gold. Got it. Okay. Neat. It's a new thing. Oh, apparently there was switch things. See there, there, look. Oh, I'm a broke dude. And it shows one right next to him on a gold medal. Oh, oh no, there was other news. Uh, the Xbox one X and the Xbox one S are getting 1440 P support. So that's dope. Uh, what? Would that already be there? No, they supported 1080 and 4k. Oh, so now if you don't care about 4k, which you probably shouldn't because you're gaming on a TV. Um, oh, so you can tell it. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Cool. Right. I see what you mean now. That's very cool. Actually. Yeah. Okay. I'm totally on board now. Apparently at first I was like, what the heck? Apparently there was Nintendo switch news. I don't know what it was. What? Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, no, I don't know. Oh, okay. You can use a PlayStation four controller. That's an article that I saw earlier that I thought was kind of neat. Anyway, I think the one S and the one X supporting 1440 P is a way bigger deal because if you use a console at like in a dorm or whatever, you probably don't have a 4k TV. You probably don't have a TV at all. You probably have your desk, which if you're smart has like a big monitor. So you can use that as a monitor and as a TV for smart and you're a baller. Although they're not that expensive these days, especially like compared to a TV. Anyway, the point is a big monitor will probably be 1440 P if you don't want to spend a whole bunch of money for 4k. And if you get like one of those Korean ones, if there's big screens in dorms at all, uh, they're probably TVs and they're probably real old. Right. Okay. So fine. If you're a baller student, you can get one of those Korean 1440 P monitors on eBay. You can hook that up to your PC and now to your Xbox and you can get better image quality. We know about the GitHub thing. GitHub got nailed by a massive DDoS and they recovered real quick. Good job GitHub. There we go. Yeah. It was huge though. It's a gigantic DDoS, but yeah, they recovered quite quickly. Good job GitHub. See you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. Bye. Slow mo from Retrinis is like, yeah, um, we're already past the 300. So, um, yeah. The biggest DDoS, the greatest DDoS. No, no, that's just someone posting a Twitch chat. I was just reading their comments. Oh, okay. We have the best DDoS.