 Welcome ladies and gentlemen to the tech support challenge RGB edition. I am extremely excited to be bringing this to you today sponsored by Intel with the help of several of our tech YouTuber community members. So co-hosting the stream with me today is the one, the only Dimitri from Hardware Canucks. Dimitri. Wow, what an intro. I love it. Yeah, exactly. Oh man, we're going to get the timing. We're going to work on getting the timing right. He's in like Bulgaria or something like that. So there we go. That's right. Not something like that. You got it right. Yeah. We're doing our best with it. We have contestants today who will be competing to see who can troubleshoot their RGB gaming system not just the fastest, but also the best. The one and only Christopher Yee and the one and only Toasty Bros. Well, it's not really one and only. There's two of them. It's Jack and Matt versus Chris. And you might say to yourself, gee Linus, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Two versus one. That's not really fair. Except for one thing. Oh, they apparently can't hear Dimitri guys. Please fix it. Please fix it. Oh no. We have got a solution to that problem. The Toasty Bros will be going at this tag team style. So it's only one versus one at a time. They will definitely be able to apply two brains to our challenge today. So I want to run through the rules real quick here for you guys. First of all, we learned our lesson last time when it was Steve from Gamers Nexus versus Jay's Two Cents. We will not be allowing BIOS or CMOS clearing on the motherboards. If there are issues with the configuration, you are going to have to solve them. Also, you may only use computer hardware that we have provided for the competition. Within the care package, and my contestants can hear me right now, right? I certainly hope so. Within your care package, you will have all of the... They what? They can't hear us right now. Why not? We haven't brought them in yet. Can you bring them in please? Here. All right. Time to run through the competition rules with you guys. Are you ready? Great. I noticed that in the pre-stream, you guys kind of like got started there. So you've gone back to not having started yet, correct? I've never touched anything. I don't know what you're talking about. We have never touched it. I don't know what you're talking about either. Rule number one, don't touch the computer until the judges say it's okay to touch the computer. Rule number two, no BIOS resets or clearing CMOS. If you guys watched the last competition, you'll have been aware that Steve found a bit of a shortcut to some of our BIOS configuration sabotage by simply resetting it. If you do that, you can still complete the competition, but there will be a large penalty. And I'll say this much, it's not worth it. Next rule, you may only use the hardware that we have provided to you for the competition. If you need to fix or change out parts, we have provided all the spares that you may or may not need. So just because we provided a spare doesn't mean that you actually need it. I mean, I hope this goes without saying, no stream peeking, you guys. No stream peeking at all. Dmitri, would you ever stream peek? Never. Of course not. So our contestants aren't allowed to either. We have to all hold ourselves to the same standard as Dmitri. Furthermore- But you can access the internet to help identify and search for your problems. So just be smart about that. But you may be also required to download some assets, programs, and et cetera during the competition. So having an internet connection is quite required for this challenge. But what if they need some help, Dmitri? What can we do? Well, we got three tech tips. I mean, you got the only tech tip guy right here. So we have three tech tips available from both Linus and myself. So you can ask for a hint, or if the hosts ask you to give, we'll count that one of your tech tips out of the three. So keep that in mind. All right. I'm going to let you guys get started now, but keep your ears peeled because we're going to be running through what exactly your objectives are today. And a three, two, one, go. Oh. All right. Make sure we have your- That tiny delay there was awesome. So good. So here are the goals. Goal number one is worth five points. Do not exceed a maximum CPU temperature of 55 degrees while running the blender tests, BMW 27, classroom, and fishy cat in succession. And I pretty much guarantee you the computers will not- Can you cut them? I pretty much guarantee you the computers will not hit this mark out of the box. What's goal number two, Dmitry? You have to achieve each computer specified minimum score in Eugene and Super with the default four key optimized settings. So there's two scores for Toasty Bros PC and the Christopher's PC. So it's good that they have those scores on hand. That way they can see if something is wrong with the PC after they run this benchmark in particular. Now guys, you might look at these scores and think, gee, it's kind of weird that Toasty Bros has to hit a higher score. Well, there are slight differences between one piece of hardware and another, even within the same product lineup and model. So we actually made sure to test exactly the configurations that we sent to them so we know how they're supposed to perform if they are working correctly. Goal number three is to configure and create a cohesive theme utilizing the RGB capable components in the case and the LED screen on the case itself. Watch out though. I'm really excited to see that. Me too. Watch out though, because a variety of RGB software is available to you already on the computer, so you shouldn't need to download anything. But there will be a penalty for installing unnecessary RGB software. Dun dun dun. Finally, goal number four. Dmitry, what do we got? So we got to install the RTX Quake 2 demo on the two and a half inch SSD that is in the system and get to the second checkpoint section on the medium settings or if you're using it on the nightmare settings for some bonus points and if you have some crazy FPS skill. Now you have to get to the second checkpoint. There's a hatch that you drop into and it initiates a loading screen. So that is the goal number four with the RTX Quake 2 demo. Alright, the only other bonus points available are if you are the first to finish, you get three bonus points. And you get three additional points if you change the difficulty to nightmare if you dare in the Quake demo. You could run it on medium, but nightmare will get you those three extra points. Alright so Chase, drop me in with just Dmitry so we can deliberate for a second here. What do you think is going to be the most challenging part of this troubleshooting competition? We got to troubleshoot our own stuff. It all fits within the theme of the competition. I think by far the hardest part is going to be the RGB. I mean just to give the audience some idea of what these guys are up against. There's about 15 to 20 problems with the systems. Things like case fans being plugged into the incorrect controller modules, a pole-pole configuration on the fans, things like that. But I expect them to get all that stuff, especially if they did their homework and they watched the last Texas Heart Challenge. Where they could run into real trouble though is RGB, I mean frankly you've done RGB builds before. I can tell just from the look on your face. RGB between the hardware and the cables all over the place and the software, it's a nightmare. It's such a nightmare especially because what you've done for this challenge has been very cleverly to introduce as many brands into the equation as possible because each brand has their own software and sometimes hardware works with different software configurations. But in this instance there's just so many brands into which you have to download their own specific RGB suite and play around with that. So I'm curious to see how they approach this sort of software equation and if they can actually figure out to get everything working correctly because sometimes RGB man, it doesn't play out as you want it to. My gosh. No, I've got a weird issue with my kids PC actually where Corsair I think supports a maximum of six strips or fans off of a single port and then the sixth one only illuminates like a third of the way across and I was like oh I must just have a defective strip or something like that. So I switched it with the fifth one and that didn't fix it and I was just like what? Oh man. I had no idea what's going on. Yeah plus in the software you have to select a particular product into which the items are plugged into the port on the hub for example. So if you don't set that correctly the RGB controller doesn't know what is plugged into it so you could have so many issues not realizing that you just have to select the proper item in the drop down menu. Alright so let's talk through the systems that these guys are troubleshooting. It looks like Chris has gone for I actually I didn't have his feed for a little bit there has he already figured out the thermal compound issue? Seems to be working on it so one of the problems is they're not going to be able to hit those target CPU temps if they do not reapply their thermal paste. So Chris is at least it looks like he's trying to pull off his CPU cooler and Matt from the Toasty Bros is already pulling out his power supply box. Oooh interesting. Now he would have yeah go ahead. I was just going to say that looking at them trying to get that initial understanding of the system is just like so painful because of all the cables that are related to the RGB but it also seems like none of them are approaching it from you know what Jay and Steve did of like trying to go from bare bones of like deconstruct the system and figuring out what's happening from ground zero whereas here both of them I feel like are stuck in that cabling mess that they have to go around in order to like reach components and figure out that there's a slot or something to do with the CPU. It's kind of overwhelming because it's one thing to be trying to troubleshoot something, it's another to be trying to troubleshoot something with a time limit and it's quite another when you don't have easy access to what you're trying to do and if I was them in an RGB system I would actually be more afraid to just unplug everything and start over because going back and trying to like trace all those cables back to where they originate it's like it's a daunting task. Oh interesting Christopher is popping all of his memory modules right now so something that you can't tell just by looking at this is we're only running to my knowledge we are only running um ran and lighting kit are installed yeah we're only actually running two memory modules and two of them are just like lighting blanks so the memory is running in single channel mode but that would only be obvious if they pull out all the sticks and see which ones are real sticks and which ones are just lighting at least that is in my troubleshooting list chase but those look like Corsair memory modules and I don't believe Corsair has blanks but it all oh never mind apparently Corsair does have lighting blanks oh he's checking he's checking but look Christopher has all them out and he's I think he has found the two blanks and he or at least he's repopulating the one that he thinks is the real memory back into the motherboard but you wow I'm surprised at how quickly I didn't even know there were blanks to be honest so this is awesome uh chase can you patch us through to Christopher I'd like to talk to him about what he's doing right now oh wait he's populating them all Christopher can you tell us what you're working on right now you just popped all your memory out and you're putting it back in what's the deal with that I'm just very scared so I know that this is supposed to be like some enthusiasts put it together and then potentially you know it's a mistake that they made but uh since I know that you guys are the one that messed with it I'm like hyper paranoid I'm thinking you'd like put tape underneath the RAM sticks or something oh okay so when you were going through the RAM um you were just like you were just checking for tape and stuff like that I know that's not a normal thing to check for but I was also just checking to see if there was anything fishy going on I don't sure think I saw something but if I did oh my what is this rat's nest what did you guys do back here well it's not really a question of what we did and more a question of what we didn't do do you recognize everything you have like every product that you need for RGB cables why this is so funny to watch I feel so good to be on this side of the the show and not test it's so closed oh man yeah it's uh well you know what good luck good luck Chris we're gonna pop in with the toasty bros and see how they're doing hey Jack and Matt how you guys doing hey we're doing all right all right so Matt do you want to walk me through what you've been doing so far you've managed to lay the computer onto its side I saw you go and get the power supply box what were you doing with that so for originally I was looking inside the power supply box because one of the fan hubs was molex for some reason I was thinking if there's any extra cables I could add to that just use that fan hub and now we're trying to see what we want to do for unscrewing this fan from here so we can change the fan orientation on this case okay why do you want to change the fan orientation exactly I thought I thought we did a great job of the fan orientation it feels oh oh yeah it's really good but I think I could do something slightly better so I had a serious question did you build this Linus I did not I did not I cannot take credit for this masterpiece what it's very beautiful what problems do you feel like you have identified so far um we did notice that there was very lackluster thermal paste on the CPU and we feel like in terms of temperature control that's probably one and also the fan orientation and then we just realized there's too much RGB selection which we kind of hate you for that but we're working on figuring this out it's a hilarious thing to observe till graphics card was forgotten I believe the graphics cards were shipped separately from the systems just to ensure that they were not damaged they were like oh okay I thought maybe I guess forgot to hear I mean I forgot but I thought you purposely didn't put them in no these are these are ball and systems yeah last thing can we go back to just me and Dimitri so one of the things we felt was necessary was to ship the systems with the graphics cards separately in their own box because the last thing you want is an RTX 3080 coming loose and banging around inside the computer like they're so they're so precious few of them that exist at this point that uh I don't want to be that's a smart thing to do for sure but plus I think that also given the challenge uh circumstance I think they're all very skeptical about what's shipped with the system and what's where so that they they can approach it but the thing is I'm not not seeing any strategy from them trying to approach it from figuring out something that's wrong with the CPU it almost seems like it's a bit of a sporadic system of trying to figure out what's happening with the fans first and then move on to the next thing that is clearly visible to your eyes but I don't know do you see any any strategies that they're implementing I don't I don't see I don't think so honestly it looks very haphazard to me let's walk through the systems that they're that they're working on so they're all equipped with a core i7 10 700k this stream is of course brought to you by Intel and we're going to have full details for the big giveaway in just a moment for cooling they're both using NZXT Kraken Z73s so these are triple 120 millimeter all-in-one liquid coolers they're running as rock h470 steel legend motherboards with Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro memory and of course uh it's 16 gigs of memory in a two by eight gig configuration so Chris didn't appear to notice this but two of those modules are actually just RGB lighting blanks and not memory so we'll see if he figures that out I've never I've never seen a memory blank now what happens if he turns the system on will the system post with the blanks installed it will it'll post but whether he's running in single or dual channel configuration as far as I can tell is now just a lottery right because you have to like feel which one is the the heavy one or which one's the lighter blank and you have to space them out accordingly and if you're feeling like yeah well they must be really lucky but right I mean you weren't even familiar with the concept of these RGB blank modules so there's a solid chance that our competitors are not familiar with them they're the kind of thing that no actual customer would ever buy like I'm not gonna spend that like they're not even cheap it's like 50 bucks it's 50 bucks and the memory itself was 80 if I'm gonna spend another 50 dollars I'm just gonna get more memory right like it's ridiculous so most people would never have any reason to use these things so it's quite possible they just have no idea that they exist well I'm excited to see if the toasty bros eventually get to the memory and they can maybe figure it out because so far we've seen that Christopher is in a bit of a trouble I mean like he has reinstalled them but maybe he got lucky and got them in dual channel maybe he did we'll see now to make life even more difficult not all of the RGB in these systems is the simple kind of RGB and I say I say simple kind of loosely here I consider simple RGB to be the kind where you've got an RGB controller that you install in your case you power it there's a software that runs that RGB controller and then you just kind of plug everything into it like a hub so you know LED strips and case fans and stuff like that some of the most complicated RGB to deal with is the kind that's built into a product that requires its own software ecosystem or if you're lucky happens to have compatibility with the software ecosystem that you know your motherboard happens to already use so that's where a couple of these are going to come in so for storage both of the systems have two SSDs one PCI Express SSD so that one goes in one of the expansion slots and then one SATA SSD both of them are RGB one from Aorus and one from team group who then the video card of course has its own RGB the case has its own RGB it's an inwind 309 and the Corsair RM 750 watt power supply is I think the one thing in this system that does not have any RGB lighting I think so that must be the only the only component but then a curveball in there with the two sets of fans and so we have the Thermaltake Ring Plus TT at 120 mm yeah. 100% and if these guys are still figuring out like reorienting fans oh boy we are going to be in for a pretty rough ride why don't we check in with Chris and see how he's doing wait no we should give the giveaway we should give the giveaway details right is it time let's do it okay so hold on a second big thank you to Intel for sponsoring today's PC tech support challenge their core i9 10900 processor excuse me core i9 10900k processor is a high powered CPU 10 cores great for gaming and all sorts of things and it can be equipped with a cooler master master 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is something else all you got to do is follow at Intel tech on Twitter and retweet their sweepstakes tweet for a chance to win we're going to have the link in the video description the giveaway closes in one week on December 1st 12 well okay 1159 p.m. I was going to say 12 a.m. but I don't want you to miss it by a minute 1159 p.m. Eastern time December 1st it's available to residents of USA UK and Canada we are sorry we couldn't make it available for more of you but unfortunately the laws around international giveaways make them very very complicated so guys go check that out down below all right let's drop in with Chris and see how he's doing Chris you what you're you're you're on you're on tinder here man Chris Chris you just you just swiping on tinder just checking your profile oh got it got it got it um that's an ASRock board so your general no wait oh if he doesn't want a tech tip I'm not supposed to help him right yeah these are supposed to be ASRock aren't they are they ASUS oh Chase my parts list is wrong oh okay well that makes more sense because I was actually noticing that we equipped the systems with 3600 megahertz RAM and I was like why did we put that on an h470 steel legend which is what's in my my configuration list all right that makes more sense well that's even better on ASUS the power LED is with the positive side facing towards the rear IO and it's right it's in line with the power switch which I believe is on the top so there's your free there's your free tech tip free tech tip that one doesn't count everyone gets one I can hear Chris I can hear Chris yeah I can hear you Demetri oh I see apparently the audio is just plain gone okay all right guys we're aware that there's a couple of audio issues we're getting it sorted out Christopher has noticed that we swapped around some of the front panel connectors that is always one of the most common errors that you'll see novice builders make that's good though he's got that crossed off his list so the front panel power and reset connectors were switched around it's a little bit finicky to get in there and fix it but now that he's identified it he should have that solved in the next probably you know I don't know he does seem to be going pretty slowly here let's say 10 to 30 seconds all right so chase can you drop us in on the toasty bros please all right how are you guys doing what do you feel you have identified so far as a problem actually hold on hold on one second apparently we are still having a bit of an issue with audio coming through to the stream all right so apparently they've only got audio from me for the time being the good news is that you can tell me what you're working on and I would be more than happy to explain it to the viewers so hit me matt what do you okay all right all right so matt's plan then is he's going to go ahead keep fixing the fan orientation since you know something he's going to have to deal with eventually anyway then go ahead and throw the throw the gpu into the system try to fire it up and see if there are any other problems one of the things that they could do especially because we are very far away and we only have kind of a grainy video feed to look at their work with is just install the fans with you know half of the screws but apparently they didn't think of that so matt did you did you put all the screws back in okay so okay so now now you're cheating now you're cheating it gets more stressful by the day all right that's it you want to try getting the fans plugged in yeah what's your strategy I'm like moving back and forth I would have told you not to do that because now it's a separate not label no it just finished just now okay well no it doesn't anymore there's a delay all right so are we live is that in in 6t cooler so there cool can you drop me and Dimitri into a chat please we should have done we should all right so why don't we have a quick look through all the things that they have to troubleshoot here Dimitri and do it and see what we think they have figured out and what they have not so so far well they've managed the case fans the case fans I guess that was like the most obvious one but it looks like on the toastie both side is like they're kind of stuck up on the whole molex connection that's why they keep taking out the power supply and figuring out the wiring which I think I mean you you called it like the wiring on the RGB stuff is just gonna be such an extra challenge and it seems like at least they figured out the fans but not the wiring yet they might not even need whichever RGB controller module uses a molex connector like they haven't even looked at the products to determine which of these RGB controllers they need so what else we got here now one of the GPU 8 pin cables is damaged and will not allow the GPU to run at full power so they're gonna have to figure that out but as far as I can whenever they install the GPU yeah whenever they get around to that so as far as I can tell the toasty bros are the only ones that have actually pulled out their power supply box but have not gotten as far as you know removing any cables from it or anything like that case case fans are plugged into the incorrect controller modules but other than changing the orientation I don't think I've really seen them change anything who say the cables for the two and a half inch SSDs are not plugged into the motherboard but instead into one another they have not gotten to that yet but where are the SSDs are they just in the back of the case somewhere behind them on the board tray one of the SSDs is installed in the case but the other one was removed for shipping so they're going to have to go through their hardware and find that SSD so that's the PCI Express one and that's the one that the operating system is actually installed on there's no way they're gonna be able to boot this system until they've installed it right and then yeah go ahead well then there's also the the the boot drive is not set as a boot drive once you once they actually have them plugged in so they have to do some BIOS work but it also seems like there's a bunch of other things in the BIOS that have have been you guys been tickering with like disable cores and hyper threading but I wonder which course have been disabled do you know how many I'm not actually sure all I know is that if they don't figure that out and enable all the cores there is absolutely no way that they are going to hit that target score in unigine superposition I guess one of the easiest ones in the BIOS would be to enable XMP like if you don't see it enabled just select that but this disable LAN and the internet that might be one of those things that not like I've never touched but it's definitely one of the things that I will be looking at in the BIOS based on the first part and there was a lot of things that even I learned over the first challenge of like trying to figure out what needs to happen as well now something I learned a long time ago so you can you can see right now Jack is installing his graphics card one of the things I learned a long time ago is your graphics card should be the absolute last thing that you do because it tends to get in the way so Chris already identified that the front panel connectors were not installed correctly to my knowledge Jack and Matt haven't done that yet so if they go and they put that graphics card in it's going to be harder to see what they're doing and they're probably just going to have to pull it right back out when they have to go ahead and swap out those tiny little connectors absolutely and also another thing is that because there we can see this them tag teaming this as an advantage but it almost is in the disadvantage because once one of the one of them leaves the other one has to kind of replace him but if they're not working in synchronization they might be trying to like fix the same thing or kind of lose track of what has been already looked at and I don't know I don't see I don't see a strategy but but we'll see I want to drop in on Chris for a little bit here and figure out what the hey hey he's doing hi Chris hey Chris yeah what's up what are you doing bud uh so right now I'm just trying to make sure that all the RGB goes in the right spot but I'm noticing some of these molex cables are a little bent and I don't want to force them in there because I've broken things like this before trying to strip them out okay do you have a strategy on like trying to figure out what what is what because of all the RGB components or so you have like mapped it in your head so I mean this is what I understand all RGB products you know if they're smart RGB most of them go into USB 2.0 slots that's why we have the NZXT USB hub so that it can all be plugged into this and then this goes into the motherboard because the motherboard doesn't have enough USB 2.0 slots and I'm very now concerned about if I have enough SATA power from the power supply because I don't see another cable unless I'm just blind but I have an idea and I've also never so here's the thing these t-force deltas super pretty SSDs love to have one first time I did one I think I plugged it into a 12 volt and fried it so I don't know if I don't know if I plugged it to a 5 volt or 12 volt but like that's probably gonna be one of my tips because I want to fry this but that's later yeah so that's my plan how are you guys doing oh we're great I do have one I don't consider this one of your tech tips but I do have one little hint for you if you don't have enough cables did you check if that's a modular power supply it is a modular power supply oh interesting hmm did you put it in the box I have to go to the box well I didn't put it anywhere I mean I wasn't responsible for any of this hmm I see passing the blame smart man but look it seems like you've unpacked everything and packed it all the way for space concerns or you would just maybe perhaps not thinking you'd need to go back into the box again you guys are playing mind games I don't know how I'm gonna search this all damn box I don't know where it is all right well we're gonna leave you to it and we're gonna drop in on the toasty bros have fun okay thank you okay Chris found his cable mod cables that's good the graphics card the bottom fans are not spinning okay well I'm gonna just see if we're not good hey Jack this monitor is hey Jack I just wanted to say I really like what you guys did with the front panel there that looks fantastic well you said to have a cohesive yeah you said a cohesive theme and so yeah your front logo actually matches my LTT box series that you can get a LTT you know dot com so yeah LTT dot com good luck come on now come on now we even we even got it on the front panel did you see the front panel it's animated store it's yep LTT store right store.com dot com okay where would LTT.com take me then that's the real question I am I don't know where LTT.com would take you but I I'm getting the domain right now I fear it I fear it we're not getting anything no not at the moment okay okay apparently the audio just cut out again I am so sorry guys there is oh no there is absolutely no explanation that I can offer for why this is happening we are changing absolutely nothing in between killing and restarting the stream here but our audio is cutting out for everyone except me which makes absolutely no sense one second have you guys tried yeah I mean like killing discord and restarting it. Oh the audio is fine are people just trolling me I hate you so much right now YouTube chat wow so much that's so bad my anger level is like right up here right now you know what it's out of the frame it's out of the frame you know what I'm cutting you off that's it I'm only I'm only looking at float plane chat only looking at float plane chat for the rest of the stream I did yeah there were a few few comments in twitch as well that made me think that this is like stream wide but maybe they're also just trolling as well all right so do you guys you guys are getting a post there or no post or what's your situation so let me through it yeah I mean it would actually the bios reset on first boot so we know that you know like you're sorry I think it reset itself or did something because it booted and then instantly shut off and then it booted again fans ramped up fans ramped back down which makes me think that it's in bios or windows right now but we're not getting a display out so I think I'm just gonna return to sender and try to get a refund at this point it's probably the best option try and get a refund yeah well given you didn't pay for it yeah given you didn't pay for it it's gonna be a very very small refund oh no chase says no returns no exchanges so you're gonna have to figure it out dang it all right we're gonna drop back in with Chris now actually no just the judges just the judges please yeah all right Dimitri man hi Linus what do you think is holding back the toasty bros here they did get the system to light up all the fans spun up lights turned on but no post what do you think well just like you said you know the the one of the PCIe power cables is defective so they must have not noticed that while plugging them back into the graphics card it happens it happens from time to time we've seen it unless actually they are running an ASUS motherboard and sometimes if the cable is unplugged or is not sending power it will actually show you that the six or eight pin check your PCIe cables yeah I'm not sure if they're looking at the screen to see if they get that error or not well I did see their monitor and it looked like it just said no display signal so I it doesn't look like they got a useful error message but we're gonna have to stay tuned and see what happens they've just tagged in tagged in Matt so maybe he'll have a little bit better luck figuring out why they're dealing with a no post situation let's drop in on Chris here real quick Chris you you got some lovely cable cable management there buddy I know right you know it's like what's the saying out of sight out of mind if you can't see bad cable management isn't even really there no I followed the exact same suite so talk to us what are you trying to solve for right now are you on like a specific mission to figure out something first I just want to make sure all the RGB works so I'm pretty sure the thermal take fans will work I think this is you put thermal take fans on a z73 and I think the Corsair fans are all gonna work yeah that's pretty much it I just I just want to make sure that all the RGB was gonna work cuz like I think I'm pretty sure this is standard in computer building the RGB is the most important component because if it doesn't look like a gaming PC it's not gonna play like a gaming PC so spoken like a true gamer till you know yeah but I also notice yeah like there was definitely a little lack of thermal paste you know on the on the CPU Christopher has caught the bad thermal paste application Chris you were actually doing pretty well here I couldn't help noticing though that you don't have a graphics card and the Toasty Bros boxes that's still yeah the Toasty Bros not to put any pressure on you or anything but they they powered up their system already is all their RGB working too well I'm not gonna you know I don't want to I can't give you any tech tips unless you formally request one but I will say they press the power button okay so you're saying you know a little bit of espionage would count as a tech tip I think I think that would count as a tech tip I think that would count as a tech tip got it okay well you know what I've seen their live streams I think if anything they can be faster than me but I don't think that they can be quick on nightmare so I'll catch up I'll get there oh is that your plan what dang son did you just did you just cast that much shade I can't even I can't look look at this my face my face is going all shadowed because of all the shade up in this stream here Linus I'll do I'll do you want better how about this oh the shade I may I may request actually you know what I will just go ahead let me can I get one of those fancy tech tips for some specific okay all right so I've never worked with this case I saw it at CS a while ago I think was the last one but I don't know what that little like six pin thing it looks like it it's like a mini six pin but from the case was that for oh great okay apparently this will not cost you a tech tip I actually did not know the answer to that I've never opened this case either it's a non-North American plug it doesn't matter you don't need it oh yeah okay sick it's a red herring so good job identifying it and asking a smart question there are you putting all four screws in your fans I mean wow listen I'll be real with you I'm only doing this because I'm here right now this was for a friend he's getting two three tops okay three is one that I don't know if I can abide four that's good you're doing it properly two okay you're cutting corners but three who cuts one corner either cut the corners or don't cut the corners dude these screws are expensive they'll just call trees screws are expensive all right enough of that let's drop in on the toasty bros I mean I gotta say that okay I sometimes do that with radiators but with fans come on yeah come on three screws now you guys tried to fire the system up again how'd that go for you Matt it didn't go very well we were we're trying to think like Linus right now what would he do to make this so difficult on us so we were just making sure it's actually a 10700k and not something like older and then we're also we're gonna try replacing the CPU maybe because we're not getting a post and then we're just okay I think it's something hardware related I'm gonna give you a free tech tip the CPU works and it's compatible that's a free tech okay that is don't go too far down that path another motherboard though so no no no don't worry about that my spreadsheet was just hadn't been updated these systems they did work at some point before they were unworkified what was your strategy were you gonna pull out some some other Intel CPU and try to put that in and see if that would post no we were gonna use the there was another one we thought in the box no there's there is there's a 10700k in the box uh-huh yeah I don't know I don't know what to tell you I'd get the vibe Matt that we need to replace either the motherboard a CPU I mean yeah you can downgrade your processor if you want you know that's cool oh it's the same one yeah yeah okay well you can it's yeah you can swap the CPU if you want but yeah I I probably wouldn't I probably wouldn't I mean you know let me just put it this way okay this is that an actual tech tip this stream is brought to you by Intel no no this is just like this is just like like a gaming the system you know like like problem-solving workaround tip okay this build this stream is brought to you by Intel was Intel gonna have us show a dead Intel CPU on stream probably not see there you go I guess not there you go so it's probably so you probably gotta work in CPU now that's not to say that you know every aspect of the hardware is working and if you wanted a tech tip you'd have to formally request one but it might help you solve your posting issue we want one we want one give it now give us the tech tip please formal request okay Dimitri you want to field this one Dimitri can give great tech tips guys well I will give you a free a tech tip but in regards to which part of your process give me a little specification so we noticed there's an extra motherboard and CPU I don't know if that's just by coincidence and we took out the CPU to notice that it is the right CPU and it appears to be the right you know z490 board and so you know I don't know if that's something that we need to figure out but I don't know if the board is possibly bad or the CPU is possibly well honestly the CPU is not bad so I'm gonna take his word for it I think that all the components are being provided in doubles just just in case but the systems should have arrived without any issues so you're not you're not expected to be swapping out the motherboard the the core components are not defective we don't know anything about the interconnects between them I can say that much I can say that much so chase in fairness once we give the toasty bros a tech tip should we also give Christopher the same tech tip I think in the interest of fairness Chris should get the same tech tip let's drop in on Chris let's drop in on Chris all right I think Chris all the origin oh yes I gotta tell you something I gotta tell you something yeah what's up in at least one way you're gonna win a moral victory here today because the toasty bros were the first to request a tech tip oh I see but because Dimitri is a is a gracious gracious overlord he and I have conferred and we have made the magnanimous decision to grant you the same tech tip that they requested I see which is that they asked if any of the double parts that have you also have been supplied with are there for for a reason and the tech tip is that all the core components that are inside your system should not be defective got it okay if for whatever reason your system didn't post I wouldn't go swapping the motherboard I would probably go looking towards interconnects rather than core components got it well then I will ask my my one tech tip now wait now you want another tech I just gave you a tech tip I just gave you oh all right you can have a paid tech tip all right hit me okay so these these these deltas these SCDs or SSDs these uh these go into the five volt one right because I haven't messed with these almost ever so the way to tell is to look at your connector and if there's a blank then it is an addressable RGB five volt and if there is no blank if there are four of them then it goes into a 12 volt connector and as you as you pointed out earlier on the stream for those that missed it if you plug a five volt addressable RGB component into a 12 volt regular RGB header you will release the magic blue smoke in your in your RGB LEDs and they will no longer function yeah got a little mini fourth of July last time I did that yep yep yep yep I think I think we've all been there I fried that Delta SSD before hey did you fry one too I have yeah I did wait what are you saying too have you one have you fried one as well I thought Chris was saying he fried one or was it you who was telling that story yeah yeah you you both you both fried one that's great partners in crime all right are you uh well it looks like Chris is just back to fanscreen how long have you been working on these fans dude oh my fingers are so swollen I can't get I can't reach that five volt uh when's your only fans listen man it's extra it's a passive income what do you want it's not passive you got to do so much work people want like specialized messages and like you know they want one-off picks and if they share the picks between each other they're gonna know that you didn't give them an exclusive one like what if these people talk to each other run into all kinds of problems you're paying for mine though right Linus like you still you're still like running that subscription yeah but I just don't feel special anymore dude you're like it's passive income it's supposed to be about engagement creation spoken like a true content creator right now I notice that you're putting a lot of time into cleaning up your cable management that looks a lot better than what you started with why ah it's not gonna be the best but at the very least I don't want it like hanging over certain parts I mean what is it one of the criteria's you know make sure you get like a nice like color scheme going on how you gonna see the colors if I got black spaghetti hanging out over every piece of it you know what that's fair that's a good point that's fair that's a really good point I want to drop in on the toasty bros I see them doing something here I want to have a little chit chat little chit chat with Matt here hey it's time for a chit chat with Matt I noticed you're fishing through your your cables there what do you what are you trying to do there um I'm seeing if any of these cable extensions are having issues are not working I was making sure everything was plugged in properly into the right part of the power supply I'm tempted to try another CPU power connector it's kind of my first guess to see if that will get it to post are you replacing all the cables I don't think we're gonna replace all the cables unless we need to but you know what they say do the very minimum that's something that they say I'm pretty sure someone says that I know that somebody out there says that yeah my procrastination 201 course I I'm pretty sure that was that we had an entire like lecture series on that wait doing the bare minimum oh you know what we actually have a free tech tip for you guys Christopher asked for a tech tip and we've decided to share the tech tips that each team requests with the other team his tech tip was asking whether the team RGB SSD plugs into a 12 volt or a 5 volt connector on the motherboard and the answer was unless you guys want to challenge this you know what could the toasty bros earn a free tech tip by knowing the answer to Chris's tech tip without me telling them okay all right which header do you guys think it goes into it would be five if it's for RGB right well there are two kinds of RGB headers really dumb 5 volt and 12 volt so we have to actually look at it do you have the SSD I haven't even gotten that close yet I haven't even looked at the actual SSD I got RGB out plugs in it's running from SATA power to well it's out of power and that's 12 I would assume I'm just going on assumptions I honestly like I'm stupid oh boy okay well you did not win the free tech tip challenge so that's fine it's 5 volt I said both answers no no that's not how you would you want 12 volt with a SATA which which isn't RGB connector yeah it's not the RGB connector and also the 12 the SATA connector has both 12 volt and 5 volt in fact I believe the older ones have 3.3 volt as well so careful with that one yeah you saved me there thanks Linus all right let's jump back to yep let's jump back to me and I'm gonna talk you guys through we've got a lot of people asking how they can get a chance to 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French you had there man well done well done merci merci okay so who's gonna win this man I don't know it seems like well Christopher has boot and everything is lighting up and more things are lighting up there than what those D bros are currently experiencing and looks like he just ripped off a sticker there that said number two and like I think all the energy he's put into cable work has paid off because look at the fans are the bottom I illuminated both SSDs are running yeah everything is everything is running so far and we'll see if he gets actually to post but all the RGB is running all the RGB is lit which is a big part of the challenge today now I wouldn't call it lit AF yet because I need to see a more cohesive color scheme but that's the first step he's got everything illuminated now what I don't know is how he is determining if his system is working or not here like does he have a monitor that it's plugged into like what's going is he just like is he like okay well that's it the RGB is all lit I'm done is it pencils down or what's his plan here I think preparing the monitor but also it looks like he's about to like listen to me tree listen to the system the toasty bros are posted they're the posty bows posty bros we got a posty bows let's drop in they got it oh my gosh let's drop in hey hey Jack yo Jack looks like you guys have a post what's uh what's that you got there you got uh got that uh UEFI uh BIOS see screeny there what how'd you do that what'd you do yes um so it was uh well here we have the culprits right here you guys uh this is not one of them where do you mean you guys you guys let us guys what you people who what people there was where'd the good people come on man there was some splicing that uh had happened behind the scenes and I think there's some things that were jumped that were not supposed to splicing I don't know about no splice you calling me a splicer your mama's a splicer I don't have to take this so uh that's fantastic um the bios did yeah the bios did reset itself it appears um reset itself you say yes because I just had to re-enable unless you guys never enabled xmp or like any type of overclocking which I felt like you would have but um well I don't know I don't know I don't know what we would have or wouldn't done man I mean this is yeah yeah hey who knows who knows what's enabled or disabled in there now what what is your what's the first step when you entered the bios trying to figure out what are the issues like do you have a procedure well um I you know normally if it wasn't reset uh I would probably look and see like if the ram overclocking profile was like way too high and I'd just see if there's too much voltage going to anything that it shouldn't be like the cpu and such sure okay which I didn't really see so you know what I think we're gonna try to do is this mouse I think we're gonna try to see if we can maybe boot to one of those drives which I don't see popping up at the moment oh well your drives aren't popping up what the drive that you didn't know was that you haven't looked at yet or yeah okay it was plugged in honestly you know what I get free tech tip maybe you should maybe you should look at the look at the drive see you later all right let's go talk to Chris hey Chris my dude what's up how's it going you seem like you're uh seem like you're having a lot of fun over there oh wait a minute I see a problem I see a problem you got you got that the box the box is all lit up but they're like the flat box and have no lights it got no I got I got the pretty part I've yet to do any gaming okay well I'm trying to figure it out I'm pretty I'm pretty sure I've plugged or I've pushed in all the power so the cpu and the motherboard should be getting power yeah oh wait let me see the motherboard has a little light on it tell me what that is well you know here's the thing I can't give you any free tech tips but what I can do is I can re-give you the same tech tip would you like the same tech tip again like our tech tip refresher course okay let me hear that tech tip okay it's like tech recursive tech tip okay so we got a reminder that all your core components work right so if for whatever reason it would seem like the compy no worky you might want to look to the things that that connect all the main components really it's the cables I got whoa whoa whoa now let the record show this line is what the record show let the record show that Chris just put words in my mouth that my mouth never made I would have never said those words didn't say that you didn't it's true you didn't see I am I am getting old if I thought these were plugged in I maybe my fingers I can't feel anymore dude I press them all the I'm gonna give you the tech tip a third time none of the core components are defective yes none of the core components are defective yes yes none of them are defective have you tried plugging them in and plugging them back again I did it just now does this CPU need all of the I'm pretty sure it doesn't right it's just that the CPU is not what might be defective the CPU is what oh my gosh so the core components we do not expect them to be defective if I were to look for something defective I might look at the other things see you later oh my gosh what could this be other things oh nice gone that was a that was a very clear indication of where he should be looking but I don't think he got that the connection part that was very clear well it's clear when you know the answer right like all the viewers at home are probably sitting there going come on Chris come on Chris yeah no but that's the that's the fun part that oh no oh no did his camera operator just his camera guy gets it look at this hello hello Chris I guess I guess the camera operator is being being loyal of like trying not to reveal too much respecting the integrity of the competition respect respect to the camera operator man I love it all right why don't we give the why don't we give the viewers an update what are all the things that were sabotaged so Dimitri why don't you walk us through the hardware stuff and then I'll pop in with the BIOS and software stuff what is wrong with these computers and and we should give people an update to as to what they've solved so far right okay so the case fans were plugged into incorrect controller modules so both the Corsair fans and the Thermaltake fans and I feel like they've figured them both out because all the fans were running when the the systems posted they were in pool and pool configuration which I think was all the necessary like returning them around so both of them fixed that one of the eight pin GPU connections was sabotaged and that's one thing that we're trying to steer Christopher in the right direction the toasty boys figured that out and they replaced the cable but it seems like they're working on something else now they're the posty bros that's right the RAM and the lighting kit so this is one of the most interesting ones I don't know if neither of them will figure this out but there's two like dummy RAM kits installed and two regular ones and they have to just make sure they're running in dual channel instead of single channel I saw Jack look at this Jack has been in the BIOS I saw him he looked at the main screen where they've got the RAM configuration showing up right on screen like that and I could see like it was the first thing I saw when I opened it up oh oh shoot the the RAM sticks are showing up they're both in this on the same channel this is gonna be a problem they're not running in dual channel mode he went right past it right into like enabling XMP without checking for what is actually a fundamentally more important aspect of his system memory performance all right what else is wrong with the hardware so the boot drive the AORUS NVMe one has the that has the OS installed on it it's not set as the boot drive and legacy mode in the BIOS I don't even think either of them have installed it yet nope I don't think they've looked at it yet so yeah these SATA cables for the two and a half inch drive are not plugged into the motherboard it's actually plugged into another SATA data cable instead there's two drives they're just plugged into each other right it's funny because they I guess among all the cable mess it's very difficult to figure out what is what and I think Christopher did a good job in terms of trying to control some of the cable mess in order to highlight some of the issues the next thing was the poor application of this of the thermal paste on the CPU both of them caught that straight away the front panel power and reset buttons were also switched both of them found out quickly yeah and I guess the last thing would be the case fan curve is always set to be a hundred percent in a BIOS so that is something that maybe they'll find maybe they won't I don't think it'll really affect their ability to meet the requirements it's just right means their system is going to be really loud and annoying there's some other things they're gonna have to find in the BIOS we disabled some cores and hyper threading we disabled the networking the toasty bros have already re-enabled XMP so they've solved that problem but we had applied an unstable overclock to the RAM actually so they should have fixed that when they applied an XMP profile so theoretically they should have that solved as well once they get into Windows we remove the drive letters in Windows Drive Manager for the installed SSDs typical just typical things we put the we put the system in low power mode which could have an impact on performance and no RGB configuration software is installed so that means that even if they have fixed all of their RGB cables and it looks like Chris has figured that out they still have to get the software fired up get everything detected by the software and put together some kind of cohesive theme I feel like this challenge is a bit more difficult than the first one just because you have to solve for all the hardware issues that kind of overlap versus what we saw in part one and I'm sure if they've done their homework they would have gone exactly photos trying to see if anything that has to be corrected the same way as before but the RGB software this is the part that scares me even from the observer side because we have like what at least five RGB components that are different that they will have to somehow figure out what to download and how to configure yeah that's the part I'm scared about I mean they're gonna need at least I'm gonna be honest with you I don't actually know the minimum number of RGB utilities that they need hey chase what is the minimum number of utilities that they need yeah we're gonna double check that for you guys it's either three or four so there's some Kraken yeah T force graphics card the case yeah so MSI graphics card a Su's motherboard Corsair RAM thermal take fans oh man now some of these please six some of these apparently you can do it with three to four because you got to remember to some of these components Chris is summoning us okay let's drop in on Chris you got to remember some of these components are just using like standard connectors like an addressable RGB connector for example okay Chris what can we do all right do you need a tie you got to tell me man I tried swapping the cable I don't think you said the core components ain't broke okay so what did you try swapping I swapped the the CPU cable okay and then what is the problem that you're having right now what's not getting an output can't get it to post it's not going to the monitor not going to the monitor okay so let's go back let's go back in time back through the chain you got the cameraman I love it the monitor bones connected to the display port bone the display port bones connected to the GPU bone the GPU bones connected to the PCI Express power cable bone these are broken? oh sorry excuse me I had a it's these ones? you're making me swap the GPU cables? I had a thing in my throat there it's the PCI Express connector cable bones connected to the power supply bone power supply bones connected to the power cable bone the power cable bones connected to the wall outlet bone the wall outlet bones connected to the copper wall wiring bone the copper wall wiring bones connected to the electrical panel bone I got it you know computers do! alright see you later Chris that's two now okay okay so he only has one left and all those cables were right there beside him this entire time oh poor Chris you know poor Chris you know what though that really is tough it really is tough the most challenging troubleshooting I mean you've been through this Demetri right the most challenging troubleshooting scenarios are when there's more than one thing wrong because it's so hard to keep track of it all in your brain that you feel like you've tried everything but sometimes what happens is it's like okay I tried this variable and then I tried this variable but actually it was both of them but now I think that I've ruled them both out but I haven't ruled out either of them it's tough it's always like that but you you bring up a good point of like trying to mentally track of what you've looked at and in this case he didn't even look at the power on the on the graphics card cable so for him it was like CPU cable which I'm not sure why he went for the CPU immediately and not check the 24 pin and well the but it's one of those things that it just passes your mind you you know you how would you know his approach would have been fine our connectors broken because remember this is a motherboard and CPU that actually has onboard graphics now if you think back to the first to the first tech support challenge Steve actually posted his system if I recall correctly using onboard audio or excuse me onboard video as a way to rule out graphics card problems that is an extremely smart troubleshooting step as soon as you've got a no post situation and if he had done that Chris would have actually been on the right track he would have pulled the GPU entirely use the onboard video to determine whether or not there I mean of course we could have configured the bios to disable the onboard graphics that's not an evil thing we could have done to put that down chase that's something we can do in the future to make sure that troubleshooting step doesn't work if we want to get really evil anyway sorry so that would have put him on the that would have put him on the right track because then he would have plugged in the GPU and gone okay we've got a GPU problem so this was troubleshootable he just was kind of frantically trying things he was focused on the RGB and you know what he's not necessarily wrong to do that because you cannot complete the challenge until you have all your RGB lit up and that's a big advantage he has over the toasty bros right now even though they've posted their system and he hasn't who are you calling right now hit me right now right now gosh I want to know I want to know who you calling it for I think I might have to say toasty bros just because they were able to post a bit quicker and like find some of the some of the I guess more nuanced challenges and like all the errors but it seems like they're also they haven't even looked at their RGB but I know I think they were doing that in the beginning of trying to figure out what goes into what that's what Jack was doing in the beginning trying to figure out that all the fans are connected into place but I mean at this point I don't I don't know it could go in either direction do you call anyone which one which one would you say is the the current person ahead it depends so I like Chris's approach better I think he's been a little bit more focused in terms of what he's working on he started with okay right I'm doing RGB now I'm doing hardware now that I can see what the heck it is that I'm doing I like that but the toasty bros while they're taking a bit more of a like wild west you know scatter gun very much they are finding the problems so all right that's and they are sort of ahead right now so Chris he can win this if he can not get into his own head and get stuck he got stuck on that power cable issue and it's like he couldn't see past the hint to this to the solution whereas and I was gonna say he has to play it smart as well because he only has one tech tip in the bank that's right I mean I feel like the more the more challenging part of this whole competition is actually slightly ahead of us with the RGB and like downloading everything even though it's they have to make it look pretty and cohesive but I guess we'll see what their subjective opinions on that unless unless so you mentioned that but something they could actually oh LTT store dot com people are like how is he drinking from a water bottle I'm not saying LTT store dot com okay but one of the things you gotta really study for in this competition is the RGB software they can't study for whatever hardware curveballs we throw them but they could have done research about the RGB ecosystems and what's intercompatible with what for sure and I mean if I personally worked with every single RGB component in the system so perhaps they have to and yeah once you kind of work with one thermo take RGB suite you know you can do the same thing in Corsair it might be a slightly different UI but all the same and looks like we have I thought he posted no signal no that's just an Asus monitor I hate that I hate that Asus guys if you're watching you need to stop when you turn on your monitor it should not look similar to your motherboard post screen because the number of times that I've had my hopes lifted only to be dashed too many to count it's the worst it's the worst now one of the things that I didn't really expect to be as big of an advantage but I think has been is the toasty bros two-on-one approach to the competition I thought like you said earlier it might end up being more problematic than helpful that they have to swap in and out all the time but it seems like two heads really are better than one why don't we drop in on them and see what they're what they're working on right now it looks like they're installing case feet yeah I know that they're done with the fans okay hey posty bros they're back I know you were almost done with the fans no don't say the fans I wasn't touching the fans uh no no no I mean yeah no this is totally not the fans that you guys are finally finally working on and it's not the fans we're not back to the fans I promise okay all right we're gonna go to the basics so I want to hear from you guys do you feel like it's been an advantage or a disadvantage having to tag team in and out of working on the system like this I mean it's it's not like a serious disadvantage I don't think it's an advantage by any means I mean I got I don't know maybe having two people like with separate mind thoughts or mind processes shut up we have we have great mind thoughts here you know the best mind thoughts it's all mind thoughts all the time yeah all right we're gonna see if this thing beats real quick and then matt you're back in I'm ready but how do you feel like it's gonna beat this time how do you guys decide who goes and when is just mine thoughts yeah mine thoughts we have that we have that energy we connect via mine okay the bottom fans were oh okay bottom fans are working okay so you've got fans spinning but no RGB hmm do you guys know why the bottom fans be not important do you know why it doesn't have RGB wait a minute what do you mean the RGB is not it's not plugged in ah it's just not plugged in that is why got it okay and I'm you know they're there you just can't boot till they are there now system information they are you just not have windows on them question mark I don't know do you guys need a tech tip is it because wait wait there I'd be happy to take it anyway you'll take a tech tip all right okay yeah all right take a tech tip all right tech tip um I mean who boots off SATA anymore anyway like what are you a peasant so is it because the AHCI or whatever no dog no dog HCI that's too HCI that's pleb that's pleb say the stuff you know who boots off SATA pleb yeah yeah you know you got like this is a this is a ball in gaming machine you got the RTX 2080 you got the you got the 10700k overclockable gaming processor got the one might say SATA is never mind yeah so there's so there's an m.2 somewhere it's SATA is like SATA is like that's lame you know it's lame it's lame I mean it's pretty it's pretty but no substance to it there's there's m.2 covers one also that I think that the graphics card is just over where the m.2 slot is so the graphs for left okay I'm gonna give you I'm gonna give you a half I'm gonna give you a half a tech tip to go along with your previous tech tip PCI express only the tip yeah NVME NVME SSDs are available with all sorts of interfaces there's you got to there's m.2 there's PCIe all kinds of different interfaces like PCIe to go into a slot that's one of the kinds of interfaces for an NVME SSD it's not plugged in then you know what so that's why this bracket is not filled all right see you later so it's in one of those boxes all right bye bye nice knowing you all right let's drop in on Chris let me try let's drop in on Chris Chris Chris I got some good news for you my man okay you look like you could use some good news you look you look fresh what what I want to show was what's the good news Linus the good news I win the lottery the good news is the posty bros as I've been calling them I'm sure you can imagine why they have that nickname the posty bro yeah have asked for a tech tip and I would be happy to share it with you I see oh the posty bros have interpreted ah they have interpreted my tech tip correctly they have found the answer so the tech tip the tech tip was that booting from SATA that's like pleb stuff now you know and then there was oh my gosh you I tried every cable but the right one are you kidding me sorry go ahead I'm listening sometimes the cable is not is he posted now I actually can't see him sorry mechatrends is on my screen it's about time he got it oh my oh man go ahead so yeah about that a tech tip yeah I'll take that the tech tip so you know SATA booting from SATA that that's for plebs okay and there was a half a tech tip to go along with it and that's the NVMe drives come in all kinds of flavors you got your m.2 you got your u.2 you got your PCI Express you know slotted ones you got your slotted ones right so if you were gonna try and boot your system you might want to consider that SATA is for plebs okay you got a high speed gaming system here you know you don't want to boot that off SATA so you might want to you know and there's lots of different lots of different NVMe's they're not all m.2 that's all I'm trying to say okay that's all I'm trying to say Linus while I got you here do you guys do anything funky in the bios you guys don't do that right you know I just wanted to remind you of one of the rules of the competition you are not allowed to perform a bios reset oh of course no no I took this if it takes me too long I'm this close to taking a little nickel out and stuffing it back in but I hear you but I think that should answer your previous question about whether or not something is being you know has been tinkered in right you guys wait did you disable dim slots you guys are bloodheads oh my god you disabled XMP what I don't even know what you're talking about all right let me ask you this if you put this GPU at gen 1 I'm gonna be so mad you're just talking about the gen 1 on the GPU okay I don't think he's found the PCIe NVMe SSD yet I don't think that's in the system no it's not so he's gonna have to interpret that tech tip and go find it and Chris has shown that he's had a little bit of trouble seeing the tech tips through seeing the tech through the tips you know right yeah I think he's just in his head trying to like solve what he's currently working on and maybe bypassing the little advice that we're throwing his way what's that chase okay chase pointed out to me that Chris did actually take the NVMe SSD out of its box uh-huh or like he had the box in his hand but he does not appear to have actually installed it I don't I don't see anything there I want to check in on the posty bros though they still yeah I've not managed to light up those Corsair fans but they're in Windows so that's far ahead then with Christopher's in that's true but they still haven't lit up the Corsair fans remember this is tech support challenge RGB edition not Windows edition okay we're going into the toasty bros right now and yes I can't wait for like computer troubleshooting to be an Olympic sport I can tell you right now none of the five people participating today would be competing because you know I would be having a lot of trouble with this these systems are these are some broken cell hey how you guys doing there I couldn't help noticing you've got no RGB on your Corsair fans what's going on with that so yeah we have it still not plugged in that we were actually thinking about and I don't know if this is a bad thing for us to do but could we go ahead and run the benchmarks to get the scores we need to get those points and then go back afterwards and do the RGB and cable management or is that not okay I think what you guys need to do is finish building your computer and attempt to benchmark it and it's finished say I'm afraid he said he thinks he what he thinks we need to do is go ahead and finish the computer first and then go benchmark it yeah and since I'm since I'm in charge whatever I think is how it's gonna have to be in the frame but what's the draw by guys why can't you why you guys stalling with the RGB on it's not that well it's not that we can I mean we just we were choosing to wait if we could because we don't know where our time is looking like yeah I don't know what our times are going to know where Christopher Yee is that quit Stalin what are you a communist hey I have one other question if we oh okay Stalin good good good Stalin what it's a time it's a stalling no I know okay I just okay so but we need to be rushing yes no no yeah yeah we're rushing we're rushing you gotta be rushing all right uh well I will say this I will say this you guys I feel like you've got time but don't squander it is that fair to me tree yeah all right all right that doesn't count as a tech tip you still got one tech tip all right can we can we drop out to just be Dmitri yeah they were talking to you later all right Dmitri why are they having so much trouble getting these Corsair fans lit it's not that hard Corsair is I mean if there's anything Corsair is good at it's slapping their brand name all over everything that they make it shouldn't be a challenge to find the Corsair box and connect the Corsair thing to the Corsair box why is this why is this still not done I think because these fans come with that four pin PWM connection plus that additional RGB connection which is proprietary for the box and maybe in the midst middle of all the cable management like they have like zip tied something or put them away so maybe it's hard to find them in the midst of the chaos we can't see the back of the system which makes me think that it's a huge mess that they can't even figure out what is what that's that's kind of my hypothesis yeah that's fair that's fair that's probably it I want to check in with actually no I want to talk through how people how people win the competition so there are four goals guys the competition goals are to keep their CPUs under the maximum temperature of 55 degrees while running three consecutive blender tests BMW 27 classroom and fishy cat they need to achieve each computer specified minimum scoring unigine superposition with the default 4k optimized settings and they each have their own score based on the exact hardware that they are using so we built these systems benchmark them broke them and then sent them to them they need to configure create and configure a cohesive theme for the RGB capable components and the case and install the quake to RTX demo on one of the two and a half inch SSDs and get to the second checkpoint on medium or on nightmare to score some bonus points now unlike last time it is not just a time challenge so it's not just who finishes first it's who finishes best but you do get a few bonus points for having the best time back to bet Dimitri based on how the toasty bros are proceeding with their system functionality but just completely stalled on cable management and RGB who are you calling now I'm still kind of maybe sticking with my initial response just because they are already in Windows they figured out I guess the the bios all the errors that are in there I guess we'll see when they run their first benchmark but I will say that I'm hopeful for Christopher just because once he figures out the cable management his RGB is already set once he figures out that that NVMe SSD and he boots into it he might have the upper hand in doom because I mean he was he was bragging about his FPS skills earlier so maybe with those bonus points yeah you know that's a good point also I mean oh I'm gonna have a hard time I'm gonna have a if this is a tie I'm gonna have a real hard time awarding the toasty bros the best score for you know their RGB configuration if they don't do something about that cable management Chris is investing significant time into making sure that his cables not only are plugged into the right places but even actually kind of look decent like I'd say the back of Chris's machine right now looks better than the front of Jack and Matt's machine yeah you're right well the fact that they haven't got the RGB to work for the bottom fans is a concern for me but in terms of like them cleaning up the cables that is definitely some something to take note of that's gonna be a time sink especially because cable management is one of the times where you can actually make additional mistakes like RGB connectors in particular the addressable five volt five volt RGB connectors are notorious for coming popped off of things when you're trying to you know since your cable management tight or whatever the case may be let's go ahead and pop in on Christopher because he looks like he is pouring his soul out to the camera here I think I think he's in the bias right now but yeah it looks like hi Chris how you doing Chris are you all right so I don't know how you guys disabled the drives and the bios I'm trying to figure it out I'm so lost have you installed all the drives into the system yeah I mean I had all the SATA I mean unless there's a way to mess with SATA ports on the motherboard there now they're going into the motherboard now this is going to be like a little throwback to our previous discussion about that mini tech tip that blindness had provided do you recall he said something about Sara being for plebs and perhaps you should never mind them and there's other SSDs that maybe are roaming around somewhere else there's you guys did not hide in m.2 you guys did not hide in m.2 and don't forget don't forget tech tip point five there there's lots of different kinds of NVMe SSDs there's just no way I mean there's a whole shipment that came you know there's just no there's a whole shipment with all kinds of things in it that you may or may not need I don't want to believe please please don't please don't shipment there it is I think I think we have the sound that we we wanted to hear yeah I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm about to go get the Logitech C922 and just scream into the microphone as loud as I can I'm gonna baby man I'm gonna do it oh what's that well what's that he's got there what's the day what's that thing he's got there that's SSD got the PCI Express SSD with the RGB it's got RGB on there when you're operating on the budget my channel does you don't buy this product hey if it helps at all if it helps at all I didn't buy this product either Gigabyte graciously sent over there AORUS PCI Express SSD for our with RGB complete with RGB for our system here the blingy RGB you got to do it yeah all right well thank you very much Gigabyte I will happily chuck this in all right Christopher we were just talking with Linus that we appreciate your cable management work and the time you're putting into it we feel like that's going to be an advantage for you for aesthetics for us that's something tells me Linus doesn't value it as much as I would hope well actually looking at in the second time Linus I think we can take it back yeah we might have we were looking at the back and we kind of figured if the back was anything to go by the front was probably pretty good but I think we put our words before our brains there are the Toasty Bros playing with the fans again okay we need to get back over to the Toasty Bros oh that makes me feel so much better uh gentlemen oh yeah you only have one so you're hi gentlemen hi why the ever-loving hell are you guys working on the fans again oh my god why is it on here again Linus listen okay we we can't get to the USB ports and the USB headers we can't get to the USB headers with these fans so I'm just here to leave them off at this point like I'm having to take them off so many times I don't like these fans I don't trust me I don't but the Corsair fans have no USBs yes so which which USB fans are you talking about to actually plug in the USB for so let's say like the Corsair fan hub to be able to control it mmm I see that runs off of USB so we're having to backtrack by taking the fan out I should access USB ports I should for the 10th time I should I should and there's no other way to access them eh at least from our knowledge of this case okay all right no no that yeah that's fine no no I'm just I'm just asking I'm just asking this is just I this is like a small hand advantage there's no other way to access it I refuse to believe it no no I have I just have very small hands so you know for for me I think getting in there would be that hard but uh oh oh wow uh not to not to give you guys any uh you know anxiety or anything but there's some exciting stuff going on on the other side of my screen here wow that's uh that's it's bright it's hopefully that should be the sound of encouragement for you guys to uh get your stuff to do better you know do better be better be best all right okay all right gentlemen well um yeah you uh you keep it up you keep it up all right let's head back over to Chris I want to talk to Chris right now I'm being stupid how do I he really just tell me tell me it'll run it'll run oh god don't worry dude don't worry dude I talk to myself all the time when I'm troubleshooting PCs oh disable the internet too come on disable the internet that's not within my power that's not within my power only South Park can do that they got the big paint they got the big purple link sis router okay you just gotta unplug it and plug it back in you know Al Gore personally don't you know all right so you're headed back into the bios uh see you later can I chat with Demetri for a bit? Demetri dude this is driving me crazy I have now watched both teams on multiple occasions watch this watch this he's gonna go right past it he's gonna drop into this screen the first thing he's supposed to see is that his RAM is not configured correctly and watch it he's not gonna see it again what what what what is shown exactly it's just uh it would say single channel or it gives you a little visual representation of where your modules are installed so first of all see on the left there on the left there right there under where his freaking cursor was see right right above it right above his cursor oh he saw it he saw it he's got it he's got it but then he looked looked into there and probably is confused as to maybe he's like mine is playing tricks with his eyes you know he just he just went he went past it oh no he's gotta at least realize that only two sticks are showing and he's got even if he doesn't know about these RGB blanks for those of you who are tuning in now there's there's RGB RAM sticks that aren't even RAM they're just RGB blanks even if he doesn't know about those he's got to know that he installed four things and there's only two showing up all right what is it chase I'm not giving them any tech tips chase chase is trying to go easy on them I'm content to let them run single channel forever if they can't spot that it's right there what about the posty boys have they configured there or they got lucky with the with the placement I installation I don't think bears is configured in dual channel either I haven't seen them pop into the bios recently though but I'm fairly sure that theirs is just as just as broken now what is Chris even looking at here is he well he did recognize that his LAN was disconnected right he's no no connection so he's probably in the bias trying to find it but I mean if you don't know exactly where it is in like an ASUS BIOS you just go one by one trying to figure out which setting it would be on you know what's really funny about that is to me going through and like enabling or disabling LAN is such a it's such an obvious troubleshooting step but it occurs to me that it's one that I haven't really used in the last five years yeah for sure it used to be that onboard LAN would cause problems and so disabling it was a perfectly reasonable and normal troubleshooting step and therefore going in and disabling it and re-enabling it and stuff like that as as part of your troubleshooting for a system was just sort of about as routine as you know resetting your RAM to stock speed pretty much or like disabling your onboard audio to see if you know that helps you know like some issue where the system is blue-screening because the driver for your you know rando weird onboard network controller or audio controller is so garbage that it like causes your system to not boot like that was just normal stuff but onboard audio for that matter too and networking has gotten so good these days that you just kind of take it for granted and it makes sense that if you're relatively new to the game it wouldn't even occur to you why would you know where that is for sure plus the additional challenge of this particular competition is the fact that they cannot reset the BIOS or like loads optimize defaults so that is another challenge where you don't know what could be broken inside the BIOS and I mean there could be so many settings that you guys could have disabled so I guess maybe in the audio we can see him dancing so maybe he's realized that he's turned it back on again I don't think so I think that's like a prayer dance yeah I think that's just a hopeful dance and he still hasn't he still hasn't reconfigured his memory that's like my rage my rage is building over this incorrectly configured memory issue here driving me but how is your how are you with rage when we look at posty bros and they're still dealing with that middle fan they're still still working around with these stupid system fans okay we've 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to viewers of our stream here whoa just as amazing as your transitions my friend well done that was beautiful that was absolutely beautiful to me try love it what is Chris doing can we please wait is he already playing quick he's already what he loaded in okay uh hey Chris what are you doing I'm gaming you gave me a gaming PC okay so this is is RTX yeah actually okay yeah RTX definitely enabled looks looking good can you let us know if you're on the nightmare I'm 100% on nightmare mode okay all right so I know this is more of a as I like to call it a boomer shooter but I've actually played quick quite a bit tell me it is it lightest you can laugh be all you want tell me this is a kid for a game for zoomers um yeah I can't say anything unfortunately oh I gotta say you're doing pretty good you got some yeah I played this I played this quite a bit actually this is uh this fortunately this is something that I feel not as dub it now tell me something did you specifically practice up prior to the stream no I've actually played this game quite a bit my dad loved like old shooter games like this played a lot of stuff what do you think of the RTX addition is it does it add to the nostalgia it definitely looks so it's like it's like reliving an old memory but like an HD wow look at him go ladies and gentlemen he knows he knows where they're coming from ladies and gentlemen this is how it's done damn Daniel done my gosh I've played this myself and I die within three seconds and I'm a CSGO player yeah see these big guys they have an attack pattern if you move up close to them they'll swing at you but they won't shoot wow now this is something that there's a tech tip and a half right there ladies and gentlemen yeah definitely all right um yeah you know what I wasn't I wasn't sure I wasn't sure if I what even is going on here do you want me to show you the rest of them there's secrets in this game every every every quake every doom game has secrets you know this wait does that mean that he gets extra points by discovering the secret no I'm not giving him any extra points but what I am definitely giving him is full credit for being not full of BS when he said he thinks he's going to outplay the toasty bros in this game I cannot imagine I cannot imagine them even coming close to competing with this now when well I guess he just has to go through the level all right yeah chats all like pogchamp basically basically like dang at this point they're like oh my streamers not that dumb thank goodness wow you're doing really good man well done yeah actually die here yeah your health helps a little low dude helps a little low dude oh so far all right maybe we shouldn't toastie maybe we shouldn't jinx you next time sorry man all right we'll distract you we'll distract you go ahead you go ahead all right let's pop in on the toasty bro see how they're doing I don't know he's back hey you got your fans working looks like look how colorful yes we are RGB'd up you got the SSD lit up you got the other SSD lit up okay so you guys think all your RGB is lit up in the system now oh god oh I believe so no no I'm just asking to hold different I'm just asking it's not a leading question it's just a question that's all yeah I know I think yeah yeah it's just not the right colors okay cool cool and do you think you guys have solved any you know performance issues that you might run into anything like that well we're trying we're battling internet at the moment for some reason the LAN port is it's not even like flash or anything for us so we're not sure if maybe we don't have something plugged in correctly okay and what is the what is the network port part of the motherboard and what controls the motherboard what controls the motherboard Matt the CPU dig deep drivers dig deep dig deeper than drivers what's up but you're on the right track with drivers what's a lower level controller than drivers bias interesting is it disabled I'll see you later bye that sounds like something they would do I can't believe like this I don't even know about and I'm just like okay Dimitri do you feel like that was bullying no that was a free tech tip is this should recognize that is there such a thing as helpful bullying you know I don't know yeah well yeah I guess I guess any any any helpful is not is not a definition of bullying so we're safe there yeah exactly exactly all right chat wants to know where people are at in the competition let's give them an update it looks like they've both figured out the case fan configuration they were in a pole pole configuration which was going to be a dust nightmare they figured out the case fans being plugged into the wrong controller module so all the case fans are spinning and the RGB is lit they have both diagnosed the broken eight pin connector for the graphics card they have both not managed to figure out that the RAM is running in single channel which is driving me absolutely bonkers they both have the boot drive installed I don't think Chris has figured out that his SATA cables are not working but then again he was supposed to install quick to RTX demo on one of the two and a half inch SSDs and get to the second checkpoint so I have installed it on the NVMe drive did he install it on his boot drive we should probably we should probably check in on him before he actually completes the challenge here they also both figured out the poor application of paste on the CPU and the front power and reset switches so the hardware they are pretty much done with but and it also seems like the the BIOS stuff has been a bit of a challenge for both of them but they've found that XMP was not enabled disabling disabling of the cores that I think they both found that through enabling of the XMP right mm-hmm I think they've both got their cores enabled but like that's the kind of thing that it's sort of baffling to me because one of the first things I do when I pop in a BIOS is you know poke around make sure I don't see anything misconfigured because a lot of the time the defaults will be things that I would consider to be misconfigured for example SRI OV is a feature that I use relatively frequently so I will pop into the BIOS and like make sure it's enabled you know one of the things that I'll also check for is what kind of power profile behavior am I going to expect am I going to get Intel default behavior or has the motherboard manufacturer enabled something like multi-core enhancement which is going to increase my performance but also my power consumption I'll just go in and I'll check these things and the minute I boot up Windows I fire up task manager okay my BIOS told me my RAM is running at speed X but what does task manager say are there any conflicting information are all my cores showing up is it running in dual channel these are all things that you can figure out without even installing any utilities just a simple task manager and it looks like neither of them really did that Chris is like hey Windows game game game game game here we go boys I'm surprised at how quickly he jumped into that as soon as Windows got loaded yeah very impressive because the thing but also it seems like maybe he hasn't figured out that that the SSD doesn't actually have a drive letter so maybe he he has installed them on the NVMe drive I don't think neither of them has figured out the SSD has a different drive letter and therefore it's not showing up let's drop in on him let's drop in on him because it seems like he's kind of looking at stuff right now where is it hey Chris what's up I just wanted to remind you of the rules of the competition yes one of the one of the challenges is to install the quake 2 RTX demo on one of the two and a half inch SSDs and get to the second checkpoint yes where did you install the game Chris oh so I noticed that I couldn't find two of the drives in boot but they were definitely plugged in and they were turning on so it looks like someone decided that you know when you put in a SATA drive normally they come with a name and someone took away their name so I gave them their name back names you say hmm ah yes names hmm what'd you call them I call them I call them Dexter and Elizabeth and they are getting along just great that's great to hear that's tremendous okay well that's wonderful so I'll just question for you then did you complete the checkpoint challenge with quake RTX installed on a two and a half inch SSD or on a different SSD two and a half inch okay good well done so we can actually check that off then can we oh yes it was specifically on Dexter the benchmarks are on Elizabeth okay all right so oh that's very interesting then so you get five points for that plus three for completing did you complete it on nightmare oh of course of course you know what I want to talk to this guy anymore let's go talk to the Toasty bros I've had enough of his crap let's go talk to him this is a USB 2 cable okay so yeah I think it's plugged in all right Toasty bros how you guys doing there's I'm sure to the software now how you guys doing up in there good we're starting one of our many RGB software installs we got the network driver working so I think we're good it was disabled and bios what oh wow who would have done such a thing that's rude it's rude just so you guys are going to get like a GB no yeah it looks like we would about now is it working now I have a question between two of you who will take over the quake demo who's the better FPS player between who's the who's the real gamer well I don't know we both equivalently played about the same amount of games and I feel like we're both in a very equal level so I might just do the mouse while he does the keyboard can we get extra points if we beat it like that I'll allow it no no no extra points unless you beat it on nightmare like that then I would say if we've been on nightmare like one with mouse one with keyboard can we get like double what it was originally you know what hold on let me think hold on a second well the judges need to need to confer okay see you later see you later I think we should let the chat decide oh well that's a good that's a good point yeah can can one of my one of my stream attendants here whip up a quick straw poll for me here and hit flow plane with it please should we allow the toasty bros to earn a three-point bonus if they play it with one of them operating the mouse and one operating the keyboard at normal difficulty well he did suggest if we would get the they would get the extra points if they play on nightmare so that's that's what I said but even on regular difficulty it's pretty tough it would be tough for sure chats like no but hold on a second guys have you ever tried to do that because I have tried to do that it is not easy and that game is extremely unforgiving like that is not some you know battlefield go hide in a corner and and rock myself to to health and 10 seconds game okay like you run out of health you die um man I lean towards I lean towards that it should be worth something extra now Christopher play you know what you know what yeah forget it forget it we're not gonna let the audience decide we're gonna let Christopher decide he's experienced in the game I think I think it's fair I think it's fair to let him decide okay let's pop in let's talk to Christopher because he was freaking out over how many RGB programs there were I get when I run this for the first time yo Chris how you doing um so I'm all right I'm running superposition now yeah I'm a little nervous so from what I think I don't think you can disable I don't I don't think you can disable dim slots and I only have 16 gigabytes and I have four sticks in hmm hmm first so I'm thinking I'm thinking the my thought is that maybe you gave yeah four sticks of what of RAM I'm starting to think that you maybe you gave two of these sticks of a sectomy wow that's the definition of a low blow sir I'm trying to tell I'm trying to tell me I'm trying to tell you that they use these might be planks did you give me planks well you sound like my wife but there's only one way to you got three kids lines come on yeah I was gonna say all of them adorable by the way okay so I got a question for you Chris you go ahead you you work on that you work on your blank blank tech tips or whatever you got going on over there but I got a question for you the toasty bros have suggested that they think it should be worth extra points if they play the quake demo on normal difficulty but with one of them operating the keyboard and one of them operating the mouse do you think that that is fair happily no honestly give them double if they can do that if they can do that on normal difficulty I thought I thought he'd be into it double I Dimitri have you ever tried it I've tried the game but I've never tried doing the separate hands Chris have you ever tried it's gonna be difficult I've tried it with Super Mario Brothers with it okay so that's the difference everybody who is against this idea has not tried it and everybody who's in favor of this idea has actually tried it it is not okay I'm not gonna offer them double because trust me I've been in your shoes scrapyard wars many a time tech showdown I always do this I'm always like I will not only concede this but I will go one step further and it has cost me victory more than once my hubris my hubris so I will offer them three extra bonus points or three bonus points not extra bonus points three bonus points at normal difficulty if they can play it together all right let's pop back in on the toasty bros and see how they're doing I'm sure you guys have you gonna like what would you got about to hear Jack Matt we have some good news for you guys Dimitri you give it to us so we just spoke we just spoke with Chris and he was the deciding factor whether or not you guys get the extra points if you play one on the mouse one on the keyboard but not on nightmare difficulty regular difficulty to make it a bit of an easier challenge for you but still a challenge so if you get you win you will get extra three points wow on top of your all right Christopher is such a sweet guy have you guys ever done that before I'm just wondering no I've never this sounds like a setup man this sounds like a set well I remember the only reason I even thought of it was like PewDiePie back in the day like with was amnesia or whatever okay like he was like the one to pioneer that so I don't know okay cool love it um one other update guys is feel free to complete the challenges in any order you want I don't care anymore I changed my mind we're already two hours into this oh okay all right see you later oh god can I just talk to Dimitri for a minute okay so did Chris figure it out yeah he took out two sticks and he looked at them and he's populating the back and I guess well the only way to find out is whether or not they show up in the bios and also I'm not sure if he kept the dummy dim sticks in there or he just removed them completely interesting I'm gonna have to deduct points for his RGB scheme if he doesn't keep the dummy sticks and configure it correctly oh yeah for sure I mean that's less RGB you don't D RGB if I the tech support challenge RGB edition like what that's true for sure for sure for sticks look so much better than two it does this might just be a troubleshooting step for him though he might just be trying to figure out like what the crap is the difference between these things right but you said there they might have like the the the actual code names and like the model numbers they got product names he's got a phone like come on man right you can tell he's in this like he's he must just be just baffled by the unfathomable stupidity of a product like this that serves it costs it costs like 70 percent as much as actual memory like 75 percent as much as actual memory but has no memory on it it's just a light you put in your memory slot oh man that's ridiculous now I saw some people in the chat asking well hey hold on a second if the toasty bros can get a three point bonus for completing the game with one on the keyboard and one on the mouse what about Christopher well Christopher actually already earned his three point bonus by beating the game on nightmare difficulty or getting to the checkpoint on nightmare difficulty so he's already got it that was just him being gracious and allowing them a chance to get a bonus because I think he's pretty confident that they would not be able to complete it on nightmare it's really interesting how Chris's approach to problem solving the ram issue it's just totally different from what I would have done he got into a benchmark and was like hey there's no such thing as a four gig stick of ddr4 wait yeah there is so what how did he know how did he know that he had four sticks and 16 gigs wasn't enough he saw that no he saw was 16 gigs but like in eight capacity I think either no he saw them in the bios right beside each other and they said eight and eight god like but he saw it showing the but he saw it in the bios and didn't see that they were in the wrong dang slots yeah well either way he's running superposition now let's see this is where we're gonna find out if he managed to enable all of his cpu cores so he's supposed to get 14,800 as a minimum so right now it's gonna be moment of truth whether or not he has everything configured correctly and he can move on to the RGB oh my gosh the RGB stuff is just makes me nervous man what are the toasty bros doing have they just been staring at armory crate for the last like 10 minutes here oh my god the armory crate download that's yeah sometimes when it updates it just takes a while and maybe it's trying to detect actually the armory crate might be a good software here because it might detect all the SSDs the the GPU not sure about the Kraken cooler but at least that way you can configure multiple RGB stuff without having to download but it's not working it's not working so now what now do they know that they have all of the RGB software pre downloaded they do okay wonderful and I'm glad they found all of their drives at this point why don't we pop in on the toasty bros and see if all their drives are showing up just straight yeah hey guys how you doing back we're having internet users again oh there was that there's that yeah for some reason our our internet keeps going in and out on the actual computer I don't think it's anything it might just be our cable so we're trying a new cable god that we're totally wrong got it uh no there there now that you have enabled the ethernet port in the bios you should not have any any network related issues from the gear that we sent over okay gotcha one thing you guys can do though if you want to make better use of your time since this is something that wasn't supposed to be part of the challenge one of you could swap the cable while the other one like I don't know installs RGB software or something like that because it's all pre downloaded gotcha so just saying oh it is is it all pre where is it pre downloaded too uh okay yeah oh well yeah so there you go you guys should have all the RGB software that you need all right fantastic you notice the benchmarks are what we did notice the benchmarks are linking to a network drive with that intentional I assume or are we gonna have to redownload stuff that's if you ask yourself that question once again a network drive oh yeah uh I don't know just look at the look at the hardware in the computer and see how many drives there are and how many drives you have bye oh okay see you later I love I love your coming in and out you know bye that's what I do they may be blanks but they're exciting all right so Chris um how you doing oh wait are we talking to Chris right now I want to talk to Chris no we're not hey Chris Chris my buddy my pal what what's going on that's a bad superposition score for this PC this is a fast computer it's an intel gaming computer with the rtx you got the rtx 3080 in there what's going on with your score my guy I take out the blanks the score drops you're giving me faulty ram what you want me to do about it wow that's very very good now how sure are you that it's faulty ram uh I don't think it's faulty ram I mean it's telling me in the d ram status that right now there it's running at 2133 no no I mean the other ones the other ones I mean I look at it it says it says no d ram on it ah no so if it's running at 2133 megahertz then what is that just a is it faulty if it I mean if it says no d ram and then it is no d ram is it faulty so you want me to fill the slots I'm not saying anything I don't want you to do anything I just want you to I want you to lead a happy life and you know bring lots of joy to your friends and family around you and make lots of money you know like I just I want nothing but the best for you Chris you want me to make lots of money is there a position open at LMG or um well yes actually but I don't believe that you have a Canadian work permit so unfortunately I think you're done yeah rejected immediately boom come on I want to go to Vancouver it is a pretty great city very expensive though very expensive it's very pretty so um yeah well you know what good luck diagnosing your superposition um score there just remember that it's important for superposition that you have excellent performance from your GPU your ram and your cpu okay based on the benchmark score that he got that I saw was 14 100 so he is slightly below his target which means that maybe that low power mode and windows is enabled and he hasn't checked it out maybe well the ram is running at the really slow 2133 so that should fix things up if he enables xmp but I wonder why he didn't realize that xmp would would fix that maybe he just wanted to run it see what see what he gets I also I have not okay neither of them have mentioned re-enabling cpu cores which leads me to believe that neither of them has figured it out because in addition to us disabling cores on the cpu we also disabled hyper threading and that could be the difference between the 14 000 points that Christopher is getting now and the 14 800 that he needs to match our pre-competition benchmarks he he does still have a tech tip he does still have a lifeline so if that's the only problem he has left we could still help him fix it but he has to ask for it he's got to ask for it he he does but there's also how often do you go into the task manager and check if you have hyper threading enabled you know it's one of those things where you don't think about these things as often as perhaps you would assume in these challenges I have a geeky confession one of the first things I do whenever I have a cpu with a ton of cores is go into task manager and switch it into per thread view so I can be like look at all the threads I would notice I would definitely notice right I do that too so I would notice as well like I built a system for the badminton center that my kids train at to capture footage from the courts so that they can be I'm not allowed to attend the the tournaments that they run there in person be due to covid so I wanted to be able to watch his games and so I was like okay well I'm just going to equip your entire badminton center with cameras on every court and then I'll like bang in streaming machine so that I can so I can watch my son's tournament so anyway that's so cool that's that's so nice of you yeah that video is coming I mean it's totally selfish I just want to watch my son's games it just so happens that I won't know what court he's going to play on so I need to equip the entire place with cameras that's all right no no no I mean I like I worked with the owner and like you know we're doing it as like a donation and stuff like yeah yeah yeah it's nice he's aware of it it's not just like you just going in there just putting cameras in it yeah but no it's definitely it was inspired by something that I wanted to do and I thought oh gee I'm sure all the other parents would like it too anyway point is I recently built that machine I used a thread ripper 1950x because I needed lots of cores lots of PCI Express because I've got two quadruple 4k capture cards in there but I didn't need a ton of single thread performance I was like oh yeah I'm gonna I'm gonna use my my old thread ripper that I don't really need for anything anymore so I put it in there first thing I did open up task manager this is not even a system I'm benchmarking it open up task manager change the view I'm like oh yeah look at all them threads mm-hmm for sure I mean that's the that's the legendary you know social media share when you get a high thread CPU it's immediately load them up or not that means share everything you know you gotta exactly that's what I'm talking about all right why don't we pop in with Chris and see how he's doing on his superposition I think hold on before we don't pop us in yet chase Demetri should we just ask both of them to show us their task manager because I don't want this to take forever and like right we're not all toasty bros we can't all swap out if we need to go pee so like let's uh I want I want them to go look at the task manager is that you think that's okay let's do it let's do it let's do it let's pop in on Chris first no please just let me hey Chris how you doing bud yes can I can I ask something we have a request for you can we can we see your task manager my task manager hmm oh what's on here and then the performance tab and CPU could you just change the view of the CPU graph for me to logical course you're gonna have to tell me how to do that one right click change graph to logical processors yeah there we go how many are there eight hmm wait this is it what's the later bye what's the pure run yes you wait I enabled hyper threading and everything okay let's go ahead and pop in toasty bros hey how you guys doing we've just got a special request could you guys do us a small favor uh-huh do you mind just popping up your task manager here real quick popping up task manager yeah task manager is a fun game I like to play okay um could you just hop over to the performance tab there for me I just want to check something I oh that does look can you change the CPU graph to logical process oh well that was still hold on that's not really what I that's not really what I wanted you to look at but that's interesting too but if you could just go ahead and change the logical process change to logical processors view for the CPU and your screens a little blown out for me how many of the how many are there I see one at this moment in time you got a right click it right click it change graph to logical processors so it's not allowing us to do that it's just it's grayed out hmm yes are you gonna you gotta click on the graph like on top of the graph area yeah oh I'm trying here it's not an option we do see that it only has one core though we see that it's saying it's three point seven nine gigahertz one core one logical processor so we assume that threading is disabled and cores are disabled well I mean all right bye bye or this just sucks this is the bad process okay speaking of the processor this stream is brought to you by Intel and this is a freaking huge giveaway that they're running Intel is giving away two hundred thousand dollars worth of gear over the next week you could be the winner of one of these this bundle is a core i9 10900k 10 core gaming processor that is well let's just put it this way a little special oh yeah hand picked by Intel's engineers this is the finest of the finest of their silicon with the best overclocking capability that they can muster there are only 200 of these kits in existence they were created for LTX 2020 rest in peace and now we are giving them away as part of this stream today but wait there's more not 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way those those gigahertz on those Intel gold processors my gosh that's awesome yeah sorry dude I if I could get one for you I would but there's literally only 200 of them sorry man sorry man thanks thanks I'll just enter the giveaway you know I don't get my luck in there prevents you from doing that to be perfectly honest with you so there you go yeah maybe custom maybe customs will but yeah Bulgarian postal service oh yeah yeah that will that will never arrive to me in time wherever all right can we pop in on Chris hey Chris yeah what's up um I'm just wondering like how's your how's your CPU doing there bud I enabled I remember enabling hyper threading and I know you guys like disable all cores but one and I enabled that is did I miss something so you enabled processor cores earlier and I yeah I hit yeah I enabled all then I enabled hyper threading okay all right it says I have eight logical cores and 16 threads did I mess something up oh I thought you said you had only eight logical like threads before okay well let's have a look at your score oh wait no I got it okay well I got it okay we're not messing we're just checking in with you that's all that's all bud you know but I will I will say that that score looks quite promising you you are higher than your minimum yeah okay let's see what's the other all right see you later Chris what oh I see you later oh you got a question okay all right all right yeah is this a techie? How much time do we have? uh well there's not strictly speaking a time limit um yeah so uh see you later okay I love you goodbyes man well done can we pop in on the toasty bros here real quick oh my god look at that cable management okay how are you guys doing do you think that will fit I guess boot force that yeah now are they both allowed to touch the computer at the same time it's just a question just a question well I'll put it this way you guys are kind of behind now so I'll allow it well I mean I didn't really say that I've said more of like um you guys are kind of behind now yeah did you by any chance find any irregularities in your CPU configuration yes pretty quickly we realized that the hyper threading was disabled and there was only one core enabled so you got distracted by the RGB you know the pretty lights yeah that might have explained some of the uh that might have explained some of the performance challenges you guys were having trying to like install applications and stuff because uh right especially with network single core today is not the best um does your camera operator have an audio feed from me can the camera operator hear me yes yeah okay uh can I just see can I see that side panel bulge can you get me a side a profile view of that side panel let's see the bulge I just I want to do it I just want to see I mean it's not that bad I mean I've seen be worse I've seen way worse don't touch it because it might yeah that's actually pretty good that's almost flat yeah it's not that flat okay all right all right I'll allow it I'll allow it I'll allow it thanks Midas all right so are you guys ready to start running benchmarks or what yeah that's yeah that's we're just our RGB is is not good and we're just gonna be honest about it but um we're having so much so many issues getting the software to work that uh unless you force us to we'd rather just take a loss in the points at this point really okay but is it possible the software wouldn't install because you had no CPU cores um well we try to get I tried again we try again many of options to choose from that we were given is there a particular software that's not working for you go back to the drive it is the oh the aura sync control okay that's the first one we're trying to do is the aura sync control okay have you guys just uh tried running any of the benchmarks yet or are you gonna stick with the RGB stuff first and then do the benchmarks after is that the strategy we're thinking about converting to just doing the benchmarks now okay we'd like to just do the benchmarks and then if we have time sure the problem is I I'm gonna be honest I think we're gonna waste everyone's time if we try to get the RGB stuff working all right I think we'd be better off starting with benchmarks if you guys want to pivot go for it it looks like that is installing now though doesn't it pivot pivot okay they're pivoting no I just extract yeah pivoting all right let's check in with Christopher here oh no is he doing oh are you really that's actually really good wait what is this Chris really are you even serious right now it's actually very good pixel art I gotta give you credit yeah lightest I would not I would not be allowed to do this job if it wasn't for my twitch chat and my twitch community and they deserve this and if it beats I fail if it beats if it beats that I don't make it then at the very least they know that I care about them all right no what why do you why do you say you won't be able to make it I feel like you're in a pretty good position based on your benchmarks and oh really okay well then I thought that you guys have no confidence so are you really are you trying to do are you animating Pepe you ever heard of pepe D a lot of he's one of my favorite emotes are you serious right now you're actually drawing more than one Pepe he only takes four frames and in my opinion Pepe is more than just he's more than just you know more than just an email that's so funny I cannot even fathom what is happening right now have you even spent any time on the rest of your RGB on the what well then you have an entire rest of your system so for those of you who are not familiar with what Chris is doing right now he is configuring the the RGB LED matrix on the front of this in win case and it actually flips between you can you can flip it between multiple images that was how we had lttstore.com on there before but he is he is actually animating the front of the case and he's doing a really good job with that pixel art I gotta say I'm impressed I've never I've never seen anything like it well done thank you I appreciate it sorry if this is a waste of your stream oh my god but you are ahead well not ahead you have completed your goal number two which was the unigine super super position and you finished the RTX demo so you are kind of the last two stages of RGB and temperature stuff yeah this is true so keep it up hopefully hopefully some confidence boost back in there hopefully hopefully alright well alright thanks for that let's go back to let the judges confer for a little bit here okay okay oh wow so it is actually animating oh my gosh that is freaking incredible like I don't even know what to say I I could not have imagined anyone doing that I just expected like you know a nice cohesive color scheme I didn't expect anyone to try to animate anything yeah what when I first saw him draw those green pixels I was thinking that maybe he's gonna go for the green theme and like maybe he wants to do some sort of art on that matrix but I did not expect that which which we got to give him you know it's a it's a creative take on the on that front panel okay sure can I check in with the toasty bros real quick again here because it looks like their benchmark run is about to finish anytime now and if they complete this benchmark and quake then they will be fully caught up hey guys hiya yes how's your how's your benchmark coming along here is FPS look like about what you'd expect from a 3080 you know honestly I've never done this benchmark so I have like no comment we're at 4k we're getting around 100 FPS okay take on average okay and the score you guys are pretty solid you're aiming for around 15,000 points 15,050 points usually yeah we tried running the blender benchmark and it was saying was trying to connect to a server because we're still having that internet issue so I don't know what we're gonna be doing in that position here it won't run locally for some reason our crazy idea if you guys use the I believe that board has Wi-Fi so crazy idea if you guys use Wi-Fi and just tethered to a phone just for the purposes of communicating with their server I don't think there's any heavy stuff you need to download so that would be a way to get it done we're low oh wow we're a little bit below oh interesting then we need to like are we allowed to overclock or anything I don't I don't think that's I don't think it's in the rules that you're not allowed to overclock I mean technically that's not what we did to to achieve this score man okay I'll allow it can I can you pop me out with Dimitri again here Dimitri should I have allowed that I mean it's not against rules because they just have to achieve a minimum points but they also have to take into account the temperatures for when they do run the blender benchmark because they cannot exceed 55 degrees Celsius on the CPU and so that could bite them in the butt if they overdo it with the overclock trying to beat the score but not taking into account the thermals that they will have to also take into account that's true so what I don't know yet is if they have solved the dual channel memory issue when we opened up task manager they were all like hey there's only 16 gigs of RAM but then they kind of like yeah they kind of got distracted they kind of pivoted away from that and I think that that could easily be the difference modern processors like the 10700k that those guys are running in their machines do want mondo memory bandwidth and cutting your memory bandwidth in half is obviously not going to give you the best possible performance oh that could be it that could be I mean I'm I'm now going going back to the question on what you asked about who I think will win and it looks like Christopher's on a slightly better path I mean he's spending time that's amazing that's really good okay can we drop in on him this is unbelievable this is unbelievable Chris I cannot even believe that you put this together I just I'm just gonna make the rest of it great that's probably a good approach because the whole idea about having a cohesive RGB system is for something to look like it's part of the same ecosystem so okay all right hold on there's there's an important video on this I think it was uh man what was there now Chris something I did want to point out is that one of the challenges does require a certain thermal target to be hit and you need to have your panels on before you run that one okay got it I can do that okay all right that's uh that's a video that I made uh Demetra can you be quiet I'm watching a tutorial thank you sorry no problem I appreciate that all right see you later Chris yep yep see you later bye oh look at that attractive man there love it look at this guy he just exudes confidence I just you know if he told me how to RGB my PC I'd believe it I absolutely you better believe it I love that I love he's using your guide to win this challenge yeah well in in it I just talk about the color wheel and how to color sync and what to do if you're using multiple different RGB peripherals that don't match up so exactly the point of that video you're welcome oh that's freaking awesome all right what are the toasty grows up to here I want to see I want to see the main page of this bios here can can we check in on them for a second hey guys can I just see something real quick yeah what's up ah can you press f7 for me please yeah thanks that was all I needed okay I'll go back to talking to me so he's checking to see if the RAM is working well all right maybe they'll maybe they'll figure this out now they're looking at it and he was mentioning about the memory and like why they're not in the slots that they should be okay man I'm I'm rooting for them I'm rooting for them come on guys it's nothing to do with XMP it's nothing to do with XMP and they still have the four slots populated so these haven't figured out that two of them are dummies yep and this is not very nice I mean I know I just competition right now but you shouldn't call them dummies I realize how that sounded yeah yeah yeah Dimitri I was talking about the RAM I never knew you as like a wicked you know burn kind of character you're always the nice tech community guy true but sometimes you know I like to throw the shade oh I love that he lifted all right I'm back to being nice I love that you can do that on cue it's freaking awesome yeah all right power of the remote okay so they've got they're doing they're still he's enabling disabling XMP I think it's trying to see if it changes the the layout but they're looking at it sorry they're looking at it let's drop in let's drop in on them let's drop in on them maybe maybe a mini tech tip I don't know a setting so I don't know tell me something do you guys need a tech tip yeah sure give us a tech tip all right I have a tech tip for you I got a tech tip for you how many RAM sticks do you guys have installed yes we have two and we have four install we realize only two were working we're trying to figure out how to correct that right but how many RAM sticks do you have installed are they like dummy sticks just for the RGB and they very well might that would totally make sense why they don't look even because I noticed that right off the bat that you see how much closer these two are than like these I mean I could just be like totally these two that we have to take out see you later hmm bye bye I was just waiting for it bye what is Chris nice all right they figured that out I'm so happy we got to this point I don't know if they figured out dual channel yet though man well they will they have detected those dummy memory and they will have to make sure that the memory that they will be using on the motherboard is running a dual channel because they're not gonna get the score but then well let's let's see let's see if they can figure this one out but are you are you watching what what's happening with Christopher because he is populating the frog man everywhere he can green RGB he's populating it on that Kraken pump cooler design which is awesome and my gosh he knows he still has benchmarks to run right like he's done he's no he the only thing he has left is that CPU benchmark with the with blender and that's a temperature test right he doesn't need an actual score for it that's true that's true you're right but for all he knows there could be something wrong with the sit oh my god okay it's sideways would be deduct points for it being sideways yes okay all right but also to his credit it is incredibly difficult to find that setting in the cam software on how to rotate the graphic I know right I had to contact NZXT for it because I couldn't figure it out I couldn't figure it out either yeah so that's a tech tip NZXT if Dimitri and I both had to contact your tech support it was too difficult to figure out and you should do better be best man come on oh man this is unbelievable okay let's pop back in on the toasty bros here as we must raise we probably should have put those other sticks back in hey gentlemen just like we just took him out we never put him back in can I just uh have a look at what you guys got going on there okay that's very interesting so uh okay yep I yep okay bye yep dual channel thank goodness dual channel it looks like but now did you hear they're unsure what to do with the other sticks and I don't know if we're gonna be deducting points of the if they don't include them in the final build but I am not sure if Chris also populated the two he did and we gave him a bit of a hint we gave him a bit of a hint so I feel like we should give the toasty bros a bit of a hint but they can run this benchmark without the the dummy sticks in they don't affect the score in any way they're they're only powered by the slot so let's let them go ahead run the score I think what they're gonna find is that this is going to meet the bar that they're supposed to meet and then they can move on they can they can move on to quake rtx right they're in a rough spot they're in a rough spot right now Christopher is going to have to have some serious thermal problems in order for the toasty bros to pull this one out and they were out ahead for so long for so long I mean I said twice that they will win but looks like they've just been stuck on replacing that bottom fan a thousand times and then and they enabling disabling xmp profiles but well I mean Christopher it looks like he's on the coarser installation for iq so he's on that last part of RGB installation but as we have the penalties for the minus one for all the additional RGB software that is not necessary so that also might play into the the total score in the end you know now that's an interesting strategy can you imagine the toasty bros basically just say okay look we're gonna forgo the a big chunk of the five points that are available for a good RGB scheme and then Chris goes and installs a bunch of extra utilities and they ultimately end up tying it is that possible it is possible it's possible yeah it's possible because I mean toasty bros it's not like they're gonna get a zero out of five like they did manage to get everything lit up like what's the what's the requirement here hold on let me let me just pop this let me just pop this open here configure and create a cohesive theme from the RGB capable components in case I mean I think they'd have to at least get a point for having everything illuminated do you think yes for sure so that everything illuminated 100% if Chris installs you know three or four too many RGB tools he could actually lose this even if he gets a five out of five for his scheme but I feel like he's approaching this from a methodical way of like installing Corsair IQ for yet for the Corsair fans I'm not sure how he's controlling the Thermaltake fans I don't know if he's already got Thermaltake software in there it looks like it they're green to match his pay pay theme so I suspect they're working properly now and the memory is green already too so he's he's like really coming up to finishing the RGB equation and like gonna have to move on to the temperatures I'm surprised he's saving the temperatures till the end but I guess the fun part he's in the fun part right now especially after how hard that screwed over Jay last time I mean I would have been going for like the toasty bros are doing now I would have been going for performance first and then let me figure out this RGB stuff I think looking at the the scoring rubric now can we pop in on the toasty bros because I believe their benchmark is about to wrap pretty shortly here let's see if they did it hello hey what's your confidence level like guys it looks like the numbers are higher so I feel pretty confident I feel like I'm about to just like email words here's by the end what was the problem then oh my goodness it's still low okay you are slightly higher than before what did you guys change but like only took out the dummy RAM modules and then put it back in dual channel is the memory running at proper XMP frequencies XMP is running at 3600 megahertz interesting so so what's your memory running at 3600 megahertz okay and your CPU cores are all enabled hyper threading is enabled yep 8 core 16 threads very interesting and did you guys do any overclocking or tuning or anything like that no all we did was go in and change out the memory modules and then reboot very interesting nope you shouldn't need any drivers you know what I think you guys are close enough that we're just gonna allow it and we're gonna go ahead and allow you guys to move on okay got it okay all right best of luck guys gracias all right next all right Chase go ahead and drop me in with Dimitri please it looks to me as though Chris is getting ready to complete his thermal testing was that blender he was installing there actually it's really hard to tell what he's installing it could be more RGB utilities can you drop us in with Chris actually why did thermal take RGB plus revert hey Chris how many RGB utilities have you installed so far oh my gosh okay thermal take glow IQ I'm trying to install or a sink but for the motherboard light but it's acting funky for me NZXT cam software and I'm trying to figure out which MSI one to use now I think we I think it was mentioned in the rules that the that the the PCIe SSD was acting a little weird with RGB so I'm just gonna leave that one a rainbow but I think how many is that I don't even know got it okay okay I just remember that while it is good to have a cohesive theme it is minus one point for every unnecessary piece of RGB software yeah well okay this so here's the tricky part so the PCIe SSD is technically gigabyte correct yes it is should I even though I cannot change it should I leave it on here the gigabyte software if I were you based on what I know about the rules which is that unnecessary RGB software is bad and that you know that that thing can't be configured properly because there's some flakiness you know I think that's pretty I think the answer is pretty obvious all right I hear it loud and clear all right see you later see you a bit but before we before we go just a quick reminder that when you do eventually get to the temperature benchmark with the the render blender test yes the side panel should be on yes I will close up the system okay all right let's drop in on the toasty bros hiya now I see you guys are installing RGB software some more is that Chris yeah he just he was accent but put into the group oh but has now been okay now I see you guys are installing RGB software again are you sure that you want to invest your time in RGB at this point so we cannot get the internet thing figured out so Jackson's actually going to get because we don't this board doesn't have Wi-Fi on it so we had to go get a Wi-Fi adapter for it there's no Wi-Fi thing in the box or anything so he had to run to our other area and pick up a Wi-Fi adapter so we could actually run the benchmark for blender because they won't let us without internet connection for some reason yeah there's no Wi-Fi is it the motherboard doesn't have Wi-Fi oh sorry okay is it the z490 a a yeah okay sorry yeah I did think it had Wi-Fi um I don't know if this is you know right because we don't have a driver for it man unless we run in the other room and grab it again thanks we're gonna have to set up this we have a Wi-Fi adapter but I don't know if it's gonna like plug and play it might need a driver so we're gonna have to set that up okay I'm gonna throw him for a loop at the internet issue yeah that's very bizarre because we really didn't do anything to it internet wise and Chris's machine has not had any internet issues I mean other than the disabled adapter in the first place which which you guys have already enabled right it's just yeah it's an okay so we're I think we'll be able to get this Wi-Fi to work plug and play you don't turn that so we don't like okay yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah look away from that it's right in there yeah my feed was so blurry I think it's probably okay but that's good to turn away from that's that's good okay I'll let's uh send me off to Dimitri please but their temperatures look like they're under control yeah this this whole ethernet stuff is throwing them into a loop a little bit yeah that's really unfortunate that's not the kind of thing that we would have any way of anticipating that they have like maybe there's an issue with their network switch or something like that that's very very unfortunate but if it helps at all I don't think it really affected the outcome of the competition very much it seems to me that Christopher is kind of running away with it at this point I mean he's doing so much extra credit configuration right now that it's kind of ridiculous hmm I'm I'm excited to see what the final RGB product looks like for him but he's sticking to the green definitely sticking to the green oh man but he still hasn't run his temperature benchmark so imagine if when he does that and the temperatures are not what they would be not what they that we should expect that would throw him in their loop but right now looks like the idle temperatures from Toasty Bros at 29 is perfectly under control yeah I'm sure under load this thing would be well we can no longer see Chris's through the the screen on the CPU cooler because he's got a dancing Pepe going on there instead now it looks like his graphics card which I think he was just in MSI's utility it looks like his graphics card has no working RGB on it at all right now which is interesting on on Christopher's yeah I think it has some some RGB loop on there but he hasn't come to configure that yet oh got it okay all right well let's pop in on him and maybe encourage him to go ahead and run the actual benchmark oh hey Chris hey Chris oh are we talking to be are we talking to I was thinking it might be a good idea for you run your for you run your bloody thermal benchmark at some point all right I'll get over to it I do have a question yeah so I'm installing MSI Mystic Light for the graphics card but it's saying that this platform is not supported for it I'm I'm unsure why interesting so I'm not sure what to do with that I think it's not recognized in at some point we just gotta run the thermal benchmarks and that's what we're gonna do right this second all right sweet see you later see you in a bit let's drop in on the toasty bros I can move this over all right I am so excited for just to witness this dual play meet you guys ready don't take this I'll see all right yeah don't feel pressured by this but let me put it this way you guys need these bonus points so I'm rooting for you here I'm ready you guys are you're a little behind right now you're a little behind but I believe in you here we go so you only got to get to the second checkpoint oh we're getting shot from behind dude what oh boy no no no no no no 18 health is it is it any thought maybe don't distract them I know sorry we don't normally we don't normally practice it's not gonna work real quick just try it doesn't say you have to beat the enemies just as good as a check second checkpoint okay is that allowed can we just try to speedrun it if you guys get to the checkpoint we don't care how you do it and you can also and you can also go ahead and to just do it as an individual in nightmare mode in case you're behind okay yeah in case this just feels wrong now oh boy okay so they're going full speed here ladies and gentlemen oh boy oh they're dead oh dang it oh that's rough yikes that was rough that was rough to witness you want to try nightmare yeah okay all right uh let's pop out of the test for this Dimitri do you think they have also underestimated the difficulty of nightmare oh a hundred percent because I had not played this game on nightmare and watching Chris play I was like oh no uh uh yeah oh 100 for sure but it's also one of those things where you need to strafe and you need that hand to mouse uh hand to mouse keyboard to mouse coordination otherwise you're not getting past the guys and like 100 you need you need the health so at least they're trying the nightmare mode now so that they can get that out out of the way and then you can tell already they don't have the confidence yeah they it's slowly kind of I mean Chris has had so much fun with the RGB and I feel like this next RGB section for the Boasty Boys might be a little bit of a bottleneck you know yeah I don't think they're gonna have time honestly I think this might be settled before they finish even though we actually eliminated the time constraints as a uh as like a primary criteria criterion for sure so this is what's going on like I'm looking I'm watching them I'm watching them play and it's like yep they got the FPS skills no problem but what Chris had was Quake 2 skills oh yeah and that's the difference he even visited some secret rooms I mean come on man that was ridiculous totally ridiculous totally unexpected is that a grenade for sure oh like he had a better weapon by this point already I forget how he got it yeah I don't I don't either now he's got oh there we go he's might use the grenade there he's gonna blow himself up oh that's rough how much health does he got for 20 got hit again what is this is this a flare or a grenade what even what even is this what's going on here yeah I mean I'm just not that familiar with this game well the thing is they could bypass this bench this game all together and just kind of minus five on the points they just traded out they just trade it out there we go no man who's a better gamer no man get out of the way I'm gonna do it no bro yeah yeah is he going the wrong way no no no he's going backwards now oh maybe there's just an alternate path oh that could be that could be something that if he's aware how interesting there we go or maybe this is just a distraction you think Jackson's doing something behind the scenes no no so looking looking at Christopher right now it looks like he is closing the panel he's preparing for that benchmark run yeah I think he did it first just to see what the temperatures were like I didn't see it because the this the stream wasn't high enough resolution to notice but it looks like I think he totally come in let's drop in on Chris let's see if he was just testing or if he totally forgot about it it's not even there hey Chris did you forget to put your side panels on before running your benchmark what no I wouldn't have done something like that really because I just I had noticed that you'd run the benchmark before and now I'm noticing that you're putting side panels on now which is sort of the opposite of the order that that would normally be done but that's crazy oh man I just I don't know what to tell you I just I yeah all right got it systems looking systems looking wait systems looking can you pop me and Demetri into our own chat again please is it just me Demetri or would he have been better off just leaving his Pepe front panel and not touching anything else because those thermal take fans are worse than they were at the start well I think it's because the RGB software hasn't loaded yet so what we were seeing is like the default something yeah I didn't realize now rebooting I thought he was just putting the side panels on with the system booted which is what I would normally do yeah yeah me too I'm not sure why he started are you watching the speed running over on the other side here yeah it's rough they just walked out again they just changed out again here they go no wait so are they at the first checkpoint now no no this is still the very start this is the beginning they keep dying because they don't know how to fight the guys and I'm like Chris mentioned there's like there's a particular way to to go around like the enemies so they have an attack pattern so you're supposed to like go close so that they melee and then pull back and shoot them and then getting close so they melee and yeah oh man Jack and Matt just don't know in their defense this is how I would play Quake as well just being like an FPS you know I wouldn't know either there's a tactic to it oh yeah okay well looks like Christopher is running the last the last goal here and we're gonna looks like he's in 46 so he's way below the 55 degree Celsius mark so yep 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away if you want it so there you go mousepads were delayed another couple of weeks shipment issues it's like covid it's q4 it's like the world is the world is crazy all right let's let's have a look at how our contestants are doing well it looks like we still have oh there we go they jumped into the the bottom but looks like Christopher is also having some issues with the the cooler oh interesting what's he doing now he he had he had unscrewed maybe to check the thermal paste or maybe to reapply it or something but maybe the temperatures were not to his expectations but that's that's a curveball right there okay sure well let's drop in on Chris and see how he's doing yeah as soon as it gets for me that's it that's it yo Chris Chris how's it going I got a pepe on the side I got pepe D he's jamming how's your temps doing bud oh I I didn't I opened a hardware monitor I didn't see them go over 55 once so are you done I'm pretty sure I'm done unless I forgot something all I did was turn the the CPU block just now but uh yeah no I'm I'm pretty sure I'm done all right can we pull everyone into the same channel did they really wait what do you do you do we miss it you gotta be kidding me okay see you later Christopher drop us in with the toasty bros oh okay what happened uh ladies and gentlemen did we just did you did you guys just get to the second checkpoint with both of you playing on normal yeah medium yes we went to medium and we did it why wow yes we made it okay that's awesome we missed it can you can you just play just play for us a bit show us how you're doing this this is crazy we can try we can we had to run past okay let's just go speed run mode we only have like 20 hp so what the shiz go upstairs upstairs I mean that that is some skill guys oh my gosh back it up to work this way all right all right can you guys drop us all in the same yeah you guys you guys did it you're amazing you guys are amazing okay cool all right that was so cool all right drop us into drop us in the same chat please okay okay so this is it guys unfortunately we're gonna have to call time here we're gonna have to call time so how's it going buddy how's it going hi jackson jack if you're there what's up dude i am so i am so in pain like all right let's jump let's go through the competition goals here so do not exceed a cpu maximum temp of 55 while running blender now uh toasty bros did you guys manage to run blender we got to run but it definitely was not we needed to do it all right chris did pull it off so that's a five and we'll give the toasty bros a three there you know run it but not quite meet the requirements we'll call it a three achieve computer specified minimum score in unigine superposition chris did manage it uh team toasty uh we'll give you guys a four and a half four and a half you guys are real close real close you're very close there yeah configure and create a cohesive theme from the rgb capable components in case chris i gotta give you uh i gotta give you a four you got some random orange in there and also that's not the most politically correct rgb theme that i've ever seen so um you know in the interest of not offending our viewers you know we're gonna dock zero points for it but i'm definitely mentioning it i'm wondering what he did uh toasty bros demetri what would you give the toasty bros for their rgb theme i mean it's it's kind of like uh like a semi rainbow approach that was obviously your your goal right so i would give you guys a three yeah yeah for sure okay all right like a yeah as for the quake 2 rtx demo you both completed it and chris i think you will be surprised to discover that the toasty bros did qualify for the three bonus points okay nice i bet you're glad that you didn't want to give them six bonus points for that now that's sick that's it dude i'm impressed i want to watch the bond it's pretty nuts watch it so both teams got five points for installing the quake 2 rtx demo and getting to the second checkpoint with chris getting three bonus points for doing it on nightmare difficulty and the toasty bros getting three bonus points for doing it with one operating the mouse and one operating the keyboard that's so sick unfortunately oh wait no there's one more thing how there's yeah there's one more thing how many rgb utilities did you install chris i believe i inst i actually have a list of what's in here so i put it into a needed file so i have i have glow iq ntxt thermal take mystic light and i attempted aura sync but i couldn't get it to work okay so you've actually got minus one point for that that's one more than you needed i don't remember which one you don't need but that's one more than you needed fortunately the good news for you is that you came out ahead 25 points to 18 and a half and guys i just want to say that there is no real loser in this you guys competed hard oh hold on chase is interrupting apparently there is a real loser go ahead whoa yeah there is no real loser in this competition i want to thank you guys so much for participating it was absolutely grueling we know we know this was way harder than the first one so anyone watching this going like oh yeah steven j like did so they did it so much better they did it so much faster like dimitri do you think that this would have been way more challenging than the first one oh for sure this is definitely more challenging like you are you have to approach the whole rgb angle from like all the wiring and cables and that that was quite the bottleneck for both of you when you open the computers and start to fiddle around with sata connections and stuff all the molex stuff yeah it's it's tough this definitely was a more challenging approach competition but also it's a really good learning opportunity for all the viewers because like just figuring out what could go wrong with the system especially not with these particular systems obviously but in general like a really good life lesson on all pc troubleshooting in the future right absolutely and it also goes to show that when you're under pressure you got to stop and take a deep breath because when you feel like you're constrained by time it's easy to overlook things that i'm sure both of you are looking back at this last three hours going i can't believe yep i can't believe that given all the many tech tips that have we've been throwing your way to some some were accepted and some were not so it's also like one of those things where a lot of things are happening in your head when trying to troubleshoot so so if we could get you guys to pull out your trophies please i believe there is a trophy package so we get the loser one right there's a trophy package there's a trophy you just did not look through the package at all i thought really okay you guys put like 16 different rgb components in the pc i thought everything came in the case okay well not the trophy all right so toasty bro we actually like a loser trophy we got a second place trophy yay isn't the brightest but neither are you oh my god wow well done guys thanks guys thanks so much i'm gonna like put this up somewhere what the heck good for you i guess good for you i guess did chase write this it's not much better i know i wrote it what the heck all right good job everyone uh thank you again for participating i know this was absolutely grueling you guys are awesome uh if you guys don't know where to find these guys uh christopher yee is over on youtube of course just search for christopher yee you will find him we're gonna have him linked in the video description as well he is our champion today joining a a long list of successful tech support challenge winners uh steve and chris that's a long list by some people's standards and of course the toasty bros who you can find over on youtube and also on flow plane oh yeah they joined the float plane family a couple of weeks ago and i believe you guys have some exclusive like behind the scenes stuff over there right now don't you yes yes exactly freaking awesome yeah so you can find them there and of course i want to thank my comment my co-commentator here dimitri nevoselov i've never tried to say your last name out loud is that close you're close you're not butchering it i will give you that thank you very much so dimitri is from hardware canucks he's one of the most og members of that team uh you know you know what's really funny hardware canucks has a super special place in my heart and dimitri i think you know this but i was actually one of the first writers for hardware canucks oh i know and yeah you you you did some reviews like some written reviews of i'm not sure of what items power supplies like water blocks and stuff yeah water blocks water blocks and stuff like that so uh hardware canucks used to be owned by the retailer that i worked for but they are completely independent now those guys are doing fantastic work so you should go check them out and you can see more of dimitri's uh awesome tech knowledge and personality over there so that's it thanks to you guys for participating all of y'all for watching intel for sponsoring it and don't miss the giveaway all the info down below i don't see any reason why the toasty bros chris and dimitri can enter the giveaway go enter the giveaway guys 10 900k golden sample okay cryo cooler there's 200 there's 200 of them so even if you win one you don't even have to feel bad about a viewer missing out because they're 200 all right that's it peace out and good night everyone thank you guys good night thanks guys thank you