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Yeah so we've got some great topics for you guys today CD Projekt Red is well basically they've tackled the whole downgrade issue head on. They're tackling. We haven't actually seen any of that happen yet. We haven't seen the tackling. They like dove and they're right here. I wouldn't even say they've gotten that far. But X is a nose drawn on the whiteboard. There is a plan to tackle. Well they've been developing. Yeah. It's still playing. Maybe they're in the huddle at this point. Okay. Or like they're lined up on maybe they're lined up on the line of scrimmage. All right. Maybe they've gotten that far. Okay. AMD is super super mad about Nvidia Game Works again. What else? There's a new Nvidia Games Works game. Yeah. It makes sense. There's apparently a 4 gigabyte limit for the first HBM graphics card from AMD which they're talking a lot about. And LG is unveiling a wallpaper OLED display. Don't tell them anything else about it because there's really not much more. 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So CD Projekt Red is taking the Witcher 3 downgrade issues head on. This was posted by that guy who twirls his pen on the forum. That is a fantastic username and the original article here is from Eurogamer.net. So let's go ahead and pull that bad boy up and pretty much the quote here... This is great. The sub headline is, we don't feel good about it. One thing they've done well throughout all of this is they've actually maintained a lot more openness and a lot more honest dialogue with the community instead of just saying, no that never happened. They've come out and they've said, well look, yeah we could have made the Witcher 3 a PC exclusive title. Yes, it would have had better graphics. Would we have had the financial ability, were that the case, to make it such a large and immersive game? No, we would not have. So we developed it on multiple platforms. From the sound of what people think about the game so far, that was probably worth it. Yeah. So the thing is that the game is getting rave reviews everywhere. People are sinking hours and hours upon hours of time into it already. So it's just unfortunate that the launch had to be sullied by this graphical downgrade issue. The good news is CD Projekt Red has an action plan. They've drawn it out on the strategy whiteboard in a boardroom somewhere, presumably at their headquarters. Maybe. Or maybe it's a boardroom somewhere else. Technically everything that he said is possible. Yes. So pretty much there's a patch with updates coming and these are looking pretty impressive. Not only will they give us more options to tweak in the graphical options menu, they will also be allowing users to push graphical settings and tweak them even further by modifying I&I files, which shouldn't be a feature. You know, less janky kind of way. Quake 3 supports widescreen because you just change your FOV and your resolution and I&I file is a pretty old game now. It should not be a feature, but the good news is that at least we're getting it. So what's the timeline on that? I think it's next week. Okay. Sometime, 27. Yeah, sometime around next week I think. Yeah, so it's waiting in certification so it should actually be dropping on Tuesday of next week. Now this is kind of nice, although... So, quote from CD Projekt Red, for those who are still not 100% decided, I definitely encourage them to wait and see what we will be releasing in patches, updates and whatnot. So it's very high road of CD Projekt Red to say, hey, you know, if you're not sure about it, we really want you guys to be sure about the game before you purchase. I mean, did you guys accept pre-orders? Did you show off in-game footage that didn't actually end up being in the shipping product and did you take pre-orders on that? Like, did you do that? If we hadn't caught you on this, would you have... Did you really think no one was going to catch it? That's the big question. If it's only taking them a couple weeks to fix this stuff, why wasn't it fixed already? Because surely they knew after the Watch Dogs debacle that someone was going to look at gameplay footage from a gaming event from before and compare and see that they're not the same. Surely they figured that would happen. You know what is pretty funny though is the amount of like PCMR threads on Reddit and stuff of people... I think I only saw two of them. Maybe there was some more. But people looking at the IGN footage where they actually did a comparison and being like, oh, I think they might have screwed up and like they labeled it improperly and they totally didn't and the PC one looks way better and you just don't know what good graphics look like. It's kind of funny because it doesn't seem that complicated, does it? No. Anyway, so speaking of good graphics, some of the things, we actually never mentioned this, some of the things that you'll be able to tweak with the upcoming patch are things like grass and vegetation density. So if you just have more GPU horsepower to throw at it, then go hard, more grass. That looks really good. Looking at a lot of the Skyrim mods that just add grass and that's all they do, it makes it look really good. Grass makes every experience better. And you can add post-processing effects like sharpening and you can increase draw distances. For me, draw distances are a huge one. Draw distances are the difference between, you know, circa 2008 World of Warcraft and a game that looks modern. Being able to amp that up, you can have the cartooniest, stupidest graphics in the world and great draw distances make the world feel bigger. And I'm not talking draw distance like there's kind of this triangle in the distance and there's like kind of like a jagged line on the top of it that's white. That's not a mountain. I'm talking draw distances that scale in a way that feels natural. So things like trees, not just as you come over a hill and like the entire forest pops in as you take three steps forward. That's really ugly. That takes me right out of the game. Whereas being able to increase that if you have the horses for it means more to me than some tessellation here or a more detailed shadow there. I would love that to be an option in a game for all the things that are like pretty far away in draw distance to just be drawn like a little kid did it. So like the trees are like, yeah, with like some random triangles coming off the side and a mountain is just literally a triangle with a squiggly. You know what? If someone could find a way to do that artfully, that could actually be really cool. Like as the object gets closer, it looks as if an older and older kid drew it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like you can even go from, yeah, I don't know. That's kind of interesting. Just upgrade based on tiers of quality. Like you said, older and older kid did it. So like from really far away, it's super derpy, but you can barely see it. And as you get closer and closer and closer and closer and closer, keeps on getting better. Well, what the dev would have to do is quantitatively figure out like the, because not every tree could be the same tree. You can just have some two year old come in and draw a tree and then that's like your tree from existence. Cause then you're going to have that, there's not going to be anything smooth about it as you move towards it. It'll just be pop, pop, pop, different objects that will look horrible. Whereas if they could quantify the drawing accuracy and seamlessly meld from one level to another, as you get closer to it, you'd probably have to go backwards. You'd probably have to draw the really nice one first and then kind of break it down. It would probably make your eyes bleed regardless, but it seems like a cool idea. I would like to see it and I don't know why. Yeah. I'd like to see it and then go, that's cool. That was cool. Thanks for all that work. Good for you. Let's not use it now. Yeah. Oh man. All right. So more Witcher discussion this time posted by Caraman, Cameran. Sorry about that. Caraman. So AMD says, and this is going to be a whole lot of AMD says and Nvidia says because we haven't signed an NDA to see the source code for Nvidia Gameworks features. So we don't know what's on the NDA to see the source code for Nvidia Gameworks. Now the good news is that the source code is available to game developers who are implementing features such as Hairworks, which makes hair more realistic with tessellated strands. But the bad news is that, and this is what AMD is saying, they cannot get access to the source code and are saying therefore they cannot optimize their driver for these particular features, something that particularly makes them upset because AMD developed features like TressFX featured in games such as Tomb Raider 2013 were possible to optimize quite easily on Nvidia's hardware thanks to, thanks Norton. Thanks Norton. Oh my God. Oh my God. Thanks again Norton. This is why people need Norton removal tool. Yeah I know right. So pretty much AMD's come out and said that when Nvidia dropped the Hairworks code on the game two months before launch it completely sabotaged Witcher 3 performance. Now with that said, you can turn Hairworks off. You do not have to use it. So that's an option. And when we do comparative testing in Witcher 3 we are probably going to have to turn Hairworks off just because it does completely widen the gap between an Nvidia card and an AMD card to the point where it seems like, ugh, yeah that's tough, to the point where you can't quantitatively talk about the difference in performance between the cards because it becomes very subjective when you go, well this one's at 62 FPS and this one's 67 but in this one, you know, Geralt's chest hair curls very convincingly. Looks a lot more manly. Yeah so it becomes a very difficult discussion whereas we like to talk pure numbers whenever possible. I don't know what else there is to say. I mean something to understand about this you guys is that AMD's cards, whether we're talking Witcher 3 or whatever else, straight up do not perform as well with heavy tessellation as Nvidia cards. So until AMD releases, let's say a rumored upcoming 390X for example, with amped up injections of steroids directly into the muscle tissue, not that that would necessarily help, until it's got tessellation out the wazoo, it just may not even be possible for AMD to optimize. And one of the things that Nvidia pointed out is that a lot of the time the driver optimization is done by AMD or Nvidia on a game by game basis are based on binary builds, not on source code anyway. So Nvidia is basically going, AMD shouldn't even need the source code in order to optimize anyhow. So this is one of those things where unfortunately, and Nvidia says there's nothing in their agreement with a game developer that prevents AMD from working with the game developer to optimize unless we actually had those contracts and could read them, we actually can't say for sure. So that's pretty much all there is to it. The game performs better with Hairworks on, an Nvidia feature on Nvidia cards. Is Nvidia right to develop their features and not really lift a finger to help people who are not their customers enjoy the features better? You could probably say yes they are. But should they be specifically sabotaging the performance on a competitor's cards? Then definitely not. Unfortunately we just have no way of knowing unless we actually sat in the meeting room, we have no way of knowing if Nvidia really has that tight a stranglehold on these game developers that they can convince them to sabotage their game's performance on 25-30% of the discrete graphics cards out there. Which when I put it like that sounds pretty far fetched doesn't it? Can you imagine a game developer that's so concerned about selling enough units that they develop for multiple platforms just saying goodbye to performance and annoying the customers on for a third of the PC gamers? I don't know. It's possible. Speaking of anything's possible. Speaking of anything's possible. So we are going to do a Witcher 3 performance thing like he slightly mentioned but I think at this point it will probably be after Computex. Oh okay. Yeah. I have reasons for that. Fair enough. Alright so this one was posted by Notional and this is looking pretty freaking cool. The original article is from English.YonhapNews.co.kr. Yonhap. LG display unveils wallpaper OLED panel. Look at that. The thing on the right. Jeez. So this OLED display you can see is being lifted up so you can see the thickness. You can see it's not just embedded in the wall like a total cheat. This OLED display is less than 1mm thick, weighs less than 5 pounds for a... 1.9kg. Yeah 1.9kg thank you. That's an exact weight. And what was that for a 55 incher? 55 inch OLED panel. Less than 5 pounds. Oh wait what? Yes. And they're saying that their sales targets for OLED panels is 600,000 in 2015 and almost triple that of 1.5 million for 2016 and that apparently LCDs took 10 years to reach these kinds of manufacturing yields. So LG given that they're one of the few that is investing heavily in OLED versus just kind of continuing to push the bar on LCD and try and sell more LCD, this could put LG in a fantastic position when it comes to anything with a display on it because OLED has some compelling advantages whether we're talking about mobile devices where they save power and where or whether we're talking about really anything else with the display where they save thickness and they increase contrast ratio. All of those things are good. Apparently they're also planning what was it a 99 inch? Yes 99 inches. As big as a... For this year. For this year. 99 inch OLED panel. And given how much room you're saving in terms of deploying things, what I want to know is how you're going to plug anything into it. I mean I guess you'll just have to have like a ribbon cable that goes to like a control breakout box or what? Yeah if you say a breakout box like the MacBook. They're going to have to have something more consumer friendly obviously. Does it show any cables in the thing which means it's probably plugged in through the back? Yeah it's probably behind. Yeah. I mean remember guys that's the panel so it's still going to need some electronics in there it's not like we're going to get away from PCBs anytime soon. But very very impressive. The fact that you'll be able to basically... Well I mean okay. Okay we have a lot of thin TVs already. But they'll be even thinner. One of the challenges apparently, I was talking to Corning about this at CES this last year, one of the challenges now that displays are getting so thin is not just making them thinner. Apparently they can just do that now. It's not making them thinner. It's actually making them strong enough to work at all. So Corning was saying that one of the materials that they developed, I think this was for I want to say for LCDs, yeah it must have been for LCDs, you wouldn't need this for OLED, is a glass that is able to disperse light evenly in the same way that the plastic layer in your existing LCD TV would because apparently this gives it a lot more strength and you can save an entire reinforcing layer that you would have otherwise needed. Not that for me it really makes any particular difference. I think my TV is about this thick and I've never thought to myself, you know, if only my TV was an inch thinner then that show would look better. It's still cool that that's an option because if you went to the store and it was the same price and that much thinner then that's cool. Then you might as well. Yeah but you're right. And if your TV... I wouldn't rush into the store and replace your TV. Your TV's fine. Your TV is like a piece of furniture, if it's like a show, if your house is all modern and amazing like mine will never ever be because there's no way I could spend that kind of money to replace things I already own. But if you're into that sort of thing then I'm sure you'll be into this sort of thing. And we can all be into things and that's cool, that's fine. Toyota Prius batteries apparently being targeted by car thieves. This was posted by Huerto165. I guess it was a matter of time because if thieves are going to steal the copper out of power lines and risk getting killed... That happened not way too long ago, like relatively close to here. Did it really? Yeah I think they were stealing it out of like an abandoned theater or something. There you go. But the power hadn't been turned off to the theater. So they're ripping copper wire out and just... There you go. Bad news bears. And that's how it happens my friends. So 2003 to 2009 Priuses are just kind of starting to come up on battery replacement timings. That costs around $2,500 US so it's not cheap. But you can buy them on Craigslist for $900 to $1,000. Now they don't put a serial number or a VIN number on the batteries. So they're pretty much untraceable. That and it's being said that you can walk out with a Prius battery in about 20 minutes if you got a couple people. Now to be clear this is not as much of an issue for a pure electric vehicle like something like a Tesla Model S because for one it's much harder to get at the battery and it's in a more secure location. It's not just under the trunk. And for number two it's extremely heavy. What is it? A thousand pounds or something stupid like that? Oh yeah no that's really not like... Tesla Model S batteries weigh about a thousand pounds. Weigh about a thousand pounds compared to 150 pounds for something like a hybrid vehicle. So good luck having you and your buddy haul that. It's possible if you're both really big dudes. A thousand pounds? Depending on like if you had to like bend over to lift it out or something like come on. Could be really bad. Could be super bad. Yeah so yeah that seems like a pretty easy way for a Prius to make a thousand bucks pretty quick. On a Tesla you'd have to raise the whole car. Yeah. And then like somehow get it out of the bottom. If it was worth enough I wonder if they'd find a way to do it. Very interesting. I think it's probably going to happen at some point. Yep it'll probably happen at some point but it's really... Someone's going to go get their car repaired and not at a Tesla facility and they'll drop the relatively new battery out and put in some crappy one or something. It's really funny the Yahoo auto reports that the theft seemed to be localized to San Francisco at the moment. That's not surprising at all. They said as if that was somehow going to be a fact that we all didn't completely assume. Because I don't remember the last time I saw a Prius hybrid. No no no. I've only ever seen I think one or two Teslas in Vancouver at all. And in the time we were in San Fran I think we saw one or two like at all points in time. So yeah I don't know. Lots of places aren't super on the electric car thing yet. Other places totally are. San Fran's huge. I know Norway. They were everywhere. It was nuts. Anyways that's a surprisingly large amount of money that you can get from stealing something in a car. Because one thing with stealing cars is they're really difficult to sell. A lot of times you have to get rid of them for scrap or what not. And they're not going to have too many pieces that are worth a thousand bucks with a ready buyer ready to rock. Now one thing that people are being advised to do is replace the bolt holding in your battery with security bolts of some sort. And that will help our security nuts excuse me. But you can also just buy those. You can also just buy the drivers for those. Yeah you can buy the drivers for those. But if everyone and their dog is using a different kind of nut. It's always an arms race. And thieves aren't going to be able to carry around 30. Oh they probably can. But the likelihood. Anyway the point for me is not necessarily just okay maybe they didn't steal your battery. It's that they already smashed your window and they already roughed up your car only to find out that you've got your battery in with security nuts. In which case I don't know do they vandalize it? More? Right? You know do they slash your seats while they're at it? That'll teach you for securing your battery. I don't know it doesn't seem to help because once someone's broken into your car they've basically done the damage. Like I had my car back when I used to lock my doors. I had my car broken into twice to steal my deck that was worth less than $100 costing me multiple hundreds of dollars in window replacements. So I just stopped locking my car. Fine if you want my deck just take it. And the funny thing is no one's taken my deck since then. Because I think they saw the deck or not. They broke in seeing if maybe there's anything else that's actually worth something. And then because I don't know if the deck is worth breaking in for. The funny thing is I wonder if leaving your doors unlocked will even help. Or if people are just going to walk up to it assume that it's locked and break the window anyways. I haven't had my window broken since then. So there you go. It happened twice in like three months back where I used to live. That's pretty insane. Yeah that was pretty not cool. Alright so this is very interesting. We've got an update to the Pentium D lineup. And we're getting Zeon D's. And I'm all about the D. This was posted by Ah Ming. Oh I am. And the original article here is from CPU-world.com. So we're getting a quad core Pentium D. That's a 25 water. However, I don't think we should be expecting any kinds of impressive clock speeds for that. And there doesn't seem to be any kind of information about whether they'll be unlocked like the previous Pentium Anniversary Edition. So just because Pentium D's which were, what did that stand for? I think that was Pentium Dual Core. That back when it was actually a high end product. So just because the Pentium D name is coming back doesn't mean we're necessarily getting anything that spectacular. Although seeing a 25 watt quad core with 6 megs of cache is looking pretty cool. And Zeon D's. Hyper low power Zeons. Probably very low clock speed again with 9 or 12 megs of cache at 35, 35, and 45 watt TDPs. So this is going to be great mate. 8 out of 8 for folks who want to build like a cheapo free NAS server for example. Where you need ECC memory support but you don't want to be spending multiple hundreds of dollars on a CPU necessarily unless you're building like some redonkulous massive high performance array and putting 10 gig ethernet into it. There's no point. You might as well save the power and save the cost and get something that's pretty low end. There's not really a ton else to say about it I don't think. There's a... Yeah it's still preliminary specs. It doesn't really tell us anything. Yeah mostly boring stuff. I guess we'll hear more in the relatively near future. So up next we've got, and this was posted by Obscure Mammal. Maybe Call of Duty Dex? We know nothing about it so. Yeah I doubt it. Probably not. Rumors for intel stuff are usually really early and really accurate. That's a good point. So maybe like Q1 next year, I don't know. This was posted by Obscure Mammal on the forum and the original article here is from Ars Technica and I'll let you comment. If you just let me post it first I'll be back in a moment. So it has infected a fair number of web servers. Largely... Tens of thousands! Largely websites and mail servers specifically. It's about 8.4% of the top 1 million websites. So it's not an insane amount but it's definitely noteworthy. Don't worry ours are fine. Anyways, basically what happens is you're able to weaken the HTTPS encryption bitkey. So basically I think you can down it to 512 bits instead of 1024 or above. So yeah, that's kind of bad because then people can crack it much easier. Researchers are already working on developing patches for major browsers like Chrome, Firefox and Safari which they will reject encryption connections that are below 1024 bits. So yeah, I don't know. It's really not that big of a deal. Yeah apparently this has been around for a long time. Most of these are around for a long time to be honest. So this was established so basically it's just a way of snooping on your data again. And this was established by the Clinton administration so the FBI and other agencies could break the encryption used by foreign entities. So honestly you probably don't have much to worry about. It's 8.4% of websites. That sounds pretty worrisome. So the attack has been dubbed logjam and it can only be exploited against a subset of servers that support the Diffie-Hellman key exchange. So that allows the two parties to exchange a secret key over an unsecured public channel. So it basically takes that and it downgrades the encryption so that it can be easily cracked. It's still encrypted. To be clear. It's honestly not that bad. It sounds a little bit worse than it is. It's not a good thing by any means but the browser guys are already releasing patches for it. It's still technically encrypted. They're still going to have to fight through your stuff and it's still going to have to be kind of a man in the middle attack. So using your already existing knowledge as tech folks maybe don't log into your bank on a public wifi network. Yeah. And like have different passwords for things. It's not great. It's a bad thing but there's been much worse in recent history in terms of like online virus stuff. Isn't that a sad state of affairs? That is kind of a sad state of affairs. But like that has to be your spin on this article. It is though. That's what you have to say. It is. Like stuff like Heartbleed was way worse. Right. And whatever the other recent ones were. I just remember Heartbleed because the name is really cool. But yeah. Logjam. Not a good thing. Not as bad as it maybe sounds immediately. I'm trying to remember what some of the like some of the exploits with like really cool names were. Like Blaster Virus. MS Blaster. Cool named viruses. Is someone really going to have you know it's the internet of course. List of viruses. List of oh. Oh no. Oh the top 10 most destructive computer viruses. There you go. Here we go. Fourth hit. Of course everyone's going to have like someone on the internet is going to have a list like that. I'm excited right now. We got Stuxnet. That's not that cool. That's not that cool sounding. Conficker. No that's not cool sounding. No. Zeus. Zeus. Poison Ivy. My doom. My doom. Yeah. My doom is cool. My doom might win. Okay so let's go ahead and. Slammer. Code red. Okay okay. Microsoft. Microsoft reveals upgrade paths to Windows 10. This is posted by Goodbytes. And the original article here is winbeta.org. So nothing too surprising here. If you have Windows 7 or 8 or 8.1 within the first 12 months you get a free upgrade to Windows 10. This we already knew. So the main difference here is that they're explaining well which version you have which corresponds to which version of Windows 10. One thing I was wondering about here though is wasn't there a Windows 10 ultimate. I don't think so. Where's that Windows 10 versions list that we had. That's from last week because there's like 100 bazillion versions of it. But I think in terms of what they're selling in a box to customers it's going to pretty much be Windows 10 home. Windows 10 pro. Okay. So if you have Windows 8 or 8.1 you get Windows 10 home. If you have Windows 7 home basic which is cool. Or home premium you get Windows 10 home. What an upgrade. Whoa that's pretty cool. Yeah so if you. Home basic that's sick. If you cheaped out on Windows 7 home basic. Which had like I forget what the limitations are like when. Four gigs of RAM I think. Was it four gigs? I think so. And it like. I know there's a RAM limitation of some sort. Yeah. Was it even two gigs of RAM? It might have been two. I don't remember what it was. I just remember it was really super. It was brutal. It was available in emerging markets. Some Windows arrow options were excluded. Activation restrictions. Blah blah blah. Anyway yeah. It was lame and. Someone at Twitch chat is going to tell us. Yeah of course they are. So you are actually going to get an upgrade to Windows 10. Two gig what? Is it home basic? Okay. No four gigs. Four gigs. People are saying both. Yeah okay four gigs yeah. Maximum physical. Starter was two gigs. Starter was two gigs. That's yeah. Okay. That's the brutal one. So. Thirty two bit is four. Sixty four bit you could have eight gigs of RAM. There was a sixty four bit version available but not in retail SKUs. So that's another cool thing. Is you are going to be able to upgrade to a sixty four bit OS if you only had a thirty two bit one. That's cool. Partial support for Windows arrow. No built in DVD decoder. No multi touch support. No Windows media center. No premium games included. If anyone cares about that. No encrypting file system. No group policies. No Windows XP mode. So no backwards compatibility. Ease of use thing. I've used that before. It's been very useful. Like lots of things. Basically it's like a ginormous. It's just total poo. Column of red. Total poo. Yeah so this is it here. So super cool and then if you have Windows 7 or Windows 8 ultimate or professional then you're going to get a copy of Windows 10 Pro. So those. That all makes sense. Those ultimate folks. They just never really got anything for their money did they? No. No they did not. Remember. It was never worth it. It was never launched and Microsoft had all those promises about ultimate and like the additional like cool stuff it was going to get. I guess they get an update to Windows 10. No they don't. Because that was Vista. They get nothing. That would be cool. If Microsoft was like okay. Do you still have this involve installed? If you actually spent $250 or whatever it was on Windows Vista ultimate we're going to give you Windows 10. They should have just randomly like four years down the line been like you all get free Office 365 for four years. Or something like that. They should have just done something. We like you guys. Because like I remember there was like ultimate extras on like the install disk and they were stupid and I was just like what is this rubbish. So like anyone installing a legitimate OS you could tell who was pirating because they'd have Windows Vista ultimate. Well yeah. No one really installed it and bought it. I worked in tech shops at that point in time. So you'd go and you'd be updating the machine. You go to Windows update and there's all the language packs and it's just like obviously pirated. Just in case you wanted Croatian. Yeah. Well I'm just like okay well there's no way this dude has a legit version of Windows at all. Looking at how his setup is running. Just like Windows ultimate makes zero sense in almost any build let alone this one. Alright so let's move on to our next one. Another article from Ars Technica and the original poster here is Sam Fisher. What? Oh stealthy. Celebrity. AMD confirms 4GB limit for first HBM graphics card. Now to be clear that headline is a little bit misleading because it says 4GB limit. I mean the amount of memory on a graphics card could be defined as the limit to the memory on it. But that doesn't necessarily mean that the rumored R9 390X will never get an 8GB version. All that means is that it's going to be a 4GB card. So calling it a limit is true but just. That is super sketchy though. It's really wonky wording. That's all. So basically the way that HBM works and the problems with GDDR5 are that it takes up a lot of space which requires a lot of traces on the PCB. It uses a lot of power. So GDDR5 has increased in the last three years by what? One gigatransfer per second in terms of the stock clock speeds on cards. It's at the limit to the point where AMD is saying if we push GDDR5 any further we're going to use up so much of that power budget that they have to build a graphics card because if they want it to be PCI Express compliant it has to fit within a certain power envelope. They're going to use up so much of that addressing RAM that they're not going to have enough left to build a GPU that's powerful enough to drive performance forward. With that said Nvidia hasn't had any trouble with that. I was just going to say. I don't know. Maybe just make your GPU more efficient. That could be a thing. Well remember a big part of the problem right now is that smaller manufacturing processes are not readily available to the GPU guys. These are large complicated chips and we're only just now finally seeing Intel rolling out 14 nanometer CPUs beyond those core M like you know for like ultrabooks and tablets and stuff processors. We're only just now seeing rumors that Samsung is going to be manufacturing the upcoming A9 chip for Apple at 14 nanometer. So GPU guys I mean how far down are they on the pecking order compared to Apple and like Intel making its own stuff in its own fabs that it doesn't lease to others. So can you imagine an AMD graphics chip being manufactured by Intel? In a world. I literally can't. I can't even join your story. I literally can't imagine that. You're not going to walk down this rabbit hole with me hey? Just imagine how scary that would be. I mean would Intel be able to talk them into having like you know like a little I even you know and like a year number like date stamped on the plate. I don't know if I would even want to see that. Just do like double digit things. So I 13 I 15 I 17. Okay what else can we say about it? So this is cool. So AMD says 1 gigabyte of GDDR5 takes up 672 millimeters squared of space versus a 1 gigabyte stack. So they have like these through fairs through the stacked memory of HBM that takes up just 35 millimeters squared. So this is something that's kind of funny because one of the renders floating around of the 390X had it as like a stubby card with the amount of space that AMD is saving on the PCB. What are they going to put on it? Yeah really. Power delivery and a GPU and like like four memory chips. Because like remember like one of the marks of a high end card was like the big PCB with like you know 12 memory chips on each side of it because it had so much RAM. Well we're not necessarily even going to need that anymore. I mean one approach could be that we could start putting 16 to 24 GB RAM on the GPU. 64 gigs of RAM. But I don't think we're at a point yet where the data integrity. Put the entire game into VRAM. Yeah like the data integrity is not even going to be high enough to put that much memory on a GPU at this stage. You'll have to put ECC memory on it. That would be pretty cool though if you could load the whole game into all the game's texture files into VRAM. You know what this actually ties in pretty well to a tweet. A tweet? Oh it's from my good buddy Johan Anderson. Okay I met him once. But he's really nice. Super nice. Super nice. He is like the guy for Frostbite. So there you go. This actually looks a lot like the render. Okay so hold on. Does it look like a stubby card? Yeah. Is that the end of the card? Maybe. It could just be a shiny part. Yeah. And that could be the end of the black. Oh oh I'm not screen sharing. I'm sorry. Very good. There we go. So we're just wondering if this is. I don't know. Because you can. Yeah I see that. You can kind of see the pixels. You could definitely be right. It could also just be a shiny reflection thing. Enhance. Enhance. No I think so. Yeah no you could. Now that we've enhanced it. Now that yes. It was only because of the enhancement. I didn't wave my hand enough. Enhance. Enhance. Zoom in there. Zoom in. Zoom in. Zoom in. Enhance. Enhance. Why? Why? I want to see that emoji closer. Emoji. It's happy. Should I keep calling them emoticons? Because I'm the older generation. That's what we used to call them. Well that's an emoticon. Wait they're different? Isn't an emoji the icon? Well we used to call the. We used to call. You mean like the image based ones right? We used to call those emoticons too. Yeah I did. Yeah. Are emoji like a specific thing? This could be a great discussion topic. Emoji versus emoticon. The Guardian dot com has an article from February 6th. We should do as fast as possible on this. Alex Hearn sets the record straight once and for all. Okay I have to know. I do too. I'm really interested. I'll read with you. They are not the same thing. Okay. And this is bold. Continued confusion of the two will not stand. It's not bold actually. But I wish it was. At issue was a piece of information that the Silk Road Founders lawyer suggested was critically important yet was omitted by federal prosecutors. An emoji. This is sometimes called the version of a smiley face. An emoticon is a typographic display of a facial representation like this. And there you go. It looks like you're right. An emoji is apparently an actual picture. Image. Yeah. Okay. So like your little Skype or Google Hangouts little emoji things are emojis. And actually typing like colon bracket is a emoticon. So emoji are treated by the computer. This is an important distinction. So the reason we care is not because the meaning is different but because emoji are treated by the computer as letters from a non-Western language in much the same way that a Japanese or Chinese character would. Which also means that the software has to explicitly support them. So all this makes perfect sense to me. Now, I think this distinction must have come later because to my knowledge MSN Messenger, which is where I cut my teeth on online chat sort of. I guess I was also on what was that other one? ICQ. Right. I wasn't. I was Messenger forever. Only Messenger. You're too young for ICQ pretty much. Like it was already dying. Yeah. It was dying. It was falling off pretty quick. I knew people that had it. I knew people that wanted me to get it. 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Build it beautiful. It's in the notes. I know it's in the notes. I'm just following the notes. All right. So this is the part where I don't screw over Nick because I wasn't talking about getting all the sponsor reads wrong. Not that that hasn't happened before. Nick and I have a bet. This is a pretty serious business bet. It's a lot more serious than I think he's really going to put on. Yeah. I'm not going to tell you guys what it is, but if you're subscribed to channel Superfun, you are going to see the result one way or another and it's going to either be amazing or really unpleasant. So pretty much we have... Pretty much you're screwed. Finally, I have refused for so long. He's pushed for it. Yep. Nick's pushed for it. My wife's pushed for it. Everyone has wanted this for quite some time. Can you post that? Yeah, I got it. It means like... Just a plain Linus Tech Tips shirt. I always kind of went... So like if you feel like, why would I want a Linus Tech Tips logo on my chest? I've always been with you. It never made any sense to me. Linus Tech Tips to me was not the kind of thing... It's not that I didn't want one. I'm proud to wear it, but I didn't know that our viewers would be amped up about just a plain, clean Linus Tech Tips shirt. So I've refused to make one. I was like, no, let's have like bro fist on the front or like a picture of a cat with a naughty word on it. And all of those are great things, but we are finally doing it. A Linus Tech Tips shirt. Now this one will be available in the long term on some store actually. It might be not on districtlines.com, but somewhere else. More details. It'll be in the link of the description of the video that we tell you it's on. Yeah, it'll be somewhere. But for now, it's on Teespring as a limited edition campaign. And the only difference between this one and the ones that will be available later are that these ones, as a nod to the people who love to be first, say first on the back. We love you guys. Please don't comment on our videos, but we're still going to pander to you by releasing a shirt that says first on the back. Although if you comment on the video and say first and then link an image to you wearing the shirt with first on the back. Then we'll still hate you, but it'll be less. Not as much. Yeah. There you go. Slightly lower. Actually, it's never really bothered me that much. Like I've actually done it on my own videos. Like before I said it live. I've seen that. I'll post first. I'll post first. Just because I'm kind of a troll by nature. But the internet at large will definitely hate you for posting first with your first shirt. So there you go. Apparently 14 of them are gone already. How quickly did that happen? Everyone in chat is already saying first all over the place. Excellent. All right. So there you go, guys. We finally have a Linus Tech Tips shirt. They're on Teespring, so they'll be available sometime in the summer. You'll actually receive it. They've actually gotten faster in the time we've been using them. So that's cool. Let's move on to our more topics, shall we? More topics. What do we got? Oh, here we go. Ah, yes. More AMD news. Word on the street is that AMD's Fiji, so the rumored 390X, will retail at... Why are you here? What? I thought you guys were still talking about shirts. I just wanted to say we have lots of different variations available, including ladies shirts. You should get them. Yeah. Woo. We have ladies shirts available? Yeah. Ladies V-neck, a ladies tank top, and a ladies regular t-shirt. Oh, no way. I'm getting one for my wife. And then like a freaking a lot of just like men's or whatever. Oh, that's cool. And when she doesn't wear it, I'm going to be like super sad. When what? When my wife doesn't wear it. I'm just going to be like... Get her seven of them. We should all... So she has to wear them every day. We should all get women's shirts with the respect of ladies in our lives. And then just like I'll get one for my mom. My mom will wear it, but like no one else will. I know. And then when she doesn't see them wearing it, she'll be like, why not? Are you not proud of me? Why don't you wear the shirt? Sorry. Hi, chat. Thanks, guys. All right. So this is from fudzilla.com. Is it the single most reputable site on the internet? No. But Fudo also gets it right a fair amount of the time. Fudo? Fu added. Fudo is his nickname. Okay. Yeah. I didn't know his nickname was Fudo. He is also jumping on my bandwagon about that other headline about the four gig limit. Four gig first, eight gig to follow apparently. I do know that eight gigs is more complicated and I do... I have heard rumors that the HBM chips yields are not fantastic. So a high capacity card might be prohibitively expensive. Not that Nvidia minds releasing a graphics card for a thousand dollars anyway. But... Slightly more than that. Nvidia is being the value solution again and aiming apparently for around 850 bucks. Value solution 850 bucks. Somewhere between the Titan X and the GeForce GTX 980. I don't know if we can call it the value solution. I don't know if I'm okay with that. With that said... That's really expensive for a value solution. There are rumors... Hey, saving $150 is saving $150. Yeah, but it's still a graphics card for... Like, over $800. And it does only have four gigs of memory compared to Titan X's 12. Huh, okay. Well, we'll wait for the performance stuff. I just don't know if we can say that's a value card. We also really need to see what the counter is going to be from the green camp. Because there's a lot of rumors floating around about a GTX 980 Ti. Lot of rumors floating around. I've seen some rumors about that particular thing. But what we don't know anything about is pricing. So if Nvidia released a 980 Ti, would they price it more similarly to the GTX 980 now and drop the price of the 980 really putting in the thumb screws on AMD potentially, unless the 390X crushes the Titan X, which we don't know? Yep, that's true. I think honestly they'll play very reactionary. If they need to, they'll drop it. They've done that before. If they don't need to, they won't drop it. They've done that before. Here's the funny thing though. The funny thing is this. I guarantee you AMD knows everything there is to know about the 980 Ti right now. And Nvidia knows everything there is to know about the 390X right now. They probably even have cards, like straight up. So whatever happens, it's just going to be like... It's like a game of cards where they can both see each other's cards. Because you know how we've seen it time and time again in the last couple of years, where every card that launches slots in perfectly with the rest of the landscape. Both of these cards are just going to make perfect sense depending on whether you have $850 to spend or however much a 980 Ti costs. I can't wait for you to do a relatively new build blog with an $850 graphics card. That would be awesome! You should just try to find the cheapest possible way to build all the rest of the computer and then keep it under a grand. No dog. The intro. Like Scrabyard Wars eBay, all the parts. Except for the graphics card. The intro for that video writes itself. Because remember there was that whole headline with Lisa Su, AMD CEO, saying they don't want to be known as the value solution. An $850 graphics card? You guys keep releasing those, you're going to be the value solution forever. Oh my god we could troll the crap out of them. That would be hilarious. Super awesome. That would be kind of a fun idea for a build though. Put in like the cheapest stuff that will be able to actually run that graphics card. But with modern things. Let's see how it goes. Alright so this actually ties in pretty well. So we're going to do a Twitter blitz here. And this is always my favorite kind of question. Because it's the question where there is no answer, there's just speculation. So many people ask me this all the time. What is going to be the graphics card to buy of the next generation? Because it looks like it's going to be 980 Ti versus 390X. And this is actually about, oh wait, that doesn't really tie in that well. You know what, let's do it anyway. So we're going to do it as a straw poll instead since it's a fairly easy question to answer. So GTX 780 Ti versus R9 390X. And I'm just even speculating. Yes, no, and. Yes and no to this question. Oh right, those aren't really very, OK, I'm sorry, GTX. It's like what the heck? Is that 780 Ti? Oh crap. So is the title. What are you doing? What am I even doing? Why is the 780 Ti the only card that exists in my mind? Because they're nerfing it. Are they? What? Have you even heard the news? They nerf, what? There's people talking about new Nvidia driver revisions. I don't know how this didn't end up in the dock, but apparently new Nvidia driver revisions are making the 780 Ti a little bit worse. 780 Ti? Yeah. Really? Because I heard about them, I haven't looked into it enough to talk about it in depth, but I heard about them possibly nerfing the overclocking on the 970M and 980Ms again. Interesting. This is desktop card stuff though. I haven't had time to try it. I do kind of want to check it out. How fascinating. It could also just be fixed in the very next driver. Right. It's also possible. I am trying to post the straw poll. I do not straight up remember my Twitch password, so that is very challenging for me at this time. I am a challenged sort of person, and it doesn't really help when the chat loads phenomenally slowly. Here we go. There's our straw poll. Oh, wait, where'd my link to it go? There it is. This is what happens when you have... Oh, that's not it. This is when you have 300 bazillion tabs. Let's see the results as they roll in. Let's move on into our next topic. What do we got? Apparently, 22% of you are going to put a turnip in your next computer. Huh. I didn't know we had that many Xbox gamers watching this stream. Oh, dang. Correct. YouTube launches 60 FPS live streaming in Quest to take on Twitch. This is busted on the purge. It was posted on the forum by Tangra. You know what the funny thing about these straw polls is? Is it just straight up doesn't matter how long we look at the results. After the first 10 seconds, the proportion never changes. It's like how big of a sample size is enough? Apparently the first 10 seconds, because it's done. Let's see if we can even change it if we want to. Guys, if you haven't voted, get in there. Vote for turnip power. Come on. Vote for turnip. Vote for turnip. Hashtag vote for turnip. Yes. We've got to bring the turnip in line with the 980 Ti or beat it. Come on turnip. And I've enabled... Actually, this is news we didn't even... Okay, so I'm going to put away the straw poll so you guys can't see if it's working. Look at how beautiful that is. How could you not vote for that? There's a new feature on Twitch. So before we get into YouTube 60 FPS streaming, Twitch has a new feature that has shortened the delay. Remember back when they changed their server configuration so that there was that massive up to over a minute delay between stream and chat? Now there is a beta feature that you can go ahead and enable within your dashboard in order to... Sorry, I can't keep a straight face. Turnip is beating 390x. Turnip power, man. Yes. Come on. So is this how politicians win elections? Two more percent. It's just if we tell them hard enough to vote for it, they'll win it. Yes, turnip power. Yes. This is what campaigning is all about. That's right. That's why going door to door works, kids. For turnip, we should just go door to door and leave turnips on the doorsteps. With like a little toothpick in it and a little sign vote for turnip. Next time there's a local election. Vermin Supreme just goes around and leaves boots with little turnips in the top on everyone's door. Awesome. I wonder how many people will get that reference. I think it's a new feature that allows us to interact with you guys more closely. Does it bring it back to the way it was before? No. But I think it's able to shorten it up to 15 to 20 seconds or something like that. Definitely a significant difference. It's a lot better. Yeah. It's a lot better. So very, very good news. It's better to the point where you're not waiting two minutes for a response because you type it in and it takes so long for him to see it and then he says it and it takes so long for you to see it and it's just ridiculous. The original article here is from The Verge. Let's go ahead and fire that up. So what is there to really... Oh no. I just closed the dock. Way to go. I'll be there. There isn't a ton to specifically say other than the title, but it is interesting that YouTube is trying this hard. There's been a huge... We've talked about this a little bit in previous shows, but there's been a huge push for online video in general. YouTube especially I'd actually say with Azubu getting tons of funding lately. Yeah. Twitch continuing to completely explode. Twitch just being absolutely insane. Acquired by Amazon and not exactly a small deal. Google trying to start a fight which looks a lot more interesting than Azubu's so far not super successful push. But anyways. Well, the thing about YouTube is that... There's something that they have to overcome here is that Google finally woke up to the fact that gaming content is popular on YouTube and has decided to actually give two craps about it at all. So it took them so long. There was never any reason for Twitch to be allowed to exist. YouTube could have easily supported these features before and maybe Twitch would have never been able to spring up out of completely the woodwork and just completely dominate online game streaming. But the good news for YouTube is that Twitch is not interested right now in being a video repository. So gamers have had to kind of support both platforms. Because if you want to archive anything and have it be actually discoverable on the second largest search engine or whatever that thing everyone likes to say is second largest search engine in the world. They want to be discoverable. They have to support YouTube even if their followings aren't as big over there. If they want to live stream, Twitch has been the only way to do it because that's where you get the actual support for things like third party streaming software like Xsplit which we love. Or if you want to say for example stream at 60 FPS which people love or stream at resolutions other than 1080p which people love. So you have to support these two platforms. So guys like us who are heavily invested in YouTube actually have a pretty decent presence on Twitch if the push ever came to shove and we wanted to start investing in Twitch more heavily and many Twitch streamers maybe they don't have 1.3 million subscribers on YouTube or whatever the number is. Maybe they've got 80,000 or 150,000 or something like that compared to a massive following on Twitch. Well hey that's not insignificant either. A huge part of building a channel is that first 20 or 30 or 50,000. You work so much harder for the first 100,000 subscribers than you do for a subsequent 250,000. That's the way it works. Once you gain critical mass, I mean if you were never going to hit 100,000 subscribers then like none of this is applicable but if you were going to get big you work so much harder for it at the beginning. So you know very interesting. I don't necessarily see it changing immediately. Yeah I really wonder how this is going to go because Twitch has such a good relationship with all the game streamers. They bring them out to shows like the Twitch booths that shows are insane. They directly support them in so many different ways and they're just so like the connections and networking that Twitch has is so incredibly strong and at least in our experience the whole networking and connections and support side from Google is really not great. Google is an engineering company and Twitch seems to have a much better feel for what it means to be a relationship company. And there's really interesting things on Twitch which is going to keep streamers there like openly being able to donate stuff with no problems. You're able to do contests not really able to do but happens all the time everywhere and everyone ignores it. There's subscribe buttons which helps people a ton. You can get icons if you subscribe which helps people a ton. With that said some of these features exist or will exist on YouTube as well and YouTube's like kind of pay pass you know some kind of premium paid option feature that's been rumored forever. I don't know like yeah like more like what Vessel is doing. I thought you were talking about the tip jar. No not that one. More like what Vessel is doing where there's a paid YouTube and you just don't see any ads. That's been rumored for a long time and that could come along and put a lot of money in streamers pockets if you know they're rolling ads at will and people who are paying a monthly subscription and like only watching that streamer are effectively giving them a few bucks. And the volume could be potentially much higher. I mean YouTube is a huge huge audience as PewDiePie can certainly attest to. I wonder if I wonder if there's some form of exclusivity agreement in the Twitch contract because it would be interesting if you just streamed to both which is possible. Yeah it's not impossible that's for sure. Need more upload. Not super easy but it would definitely be possible. You could just support both platforms. I mean you'll always have to have a primary and that's something that we've discovered is that when we say don't forget to subscribe only YouTube has subscribe. I'll say follow. Yeah I've started saying follow too but there's a lot of other things too like click the annotation. Other video platforms don't support annotations. So if we started uploading on Billy Billy for example. If it's a stream you can address that much more easily. Sort of. You can mix your chats and stuff. Okay something a lot of streamers do is subscriber only chat. So are they just going to ignore the YouTube chat and just talk to their Twitch chat? I don't know. That's interesting. Because there'll be a lot of spam in that YouTube chat unless there's a subscriber only mode. So if you ask for subscribers on both you're going to monitor two chat windows? Come on. That's tough. There will definitely be a browser hook which mixes those chats. And then that's a total mess because then they can't see each other. Not that anyone can really talk to each other in a half way. No I mean for the streamer. Oh for the streamer. So the streamer can monitor everything. Yeah but I don't know it will fragment it for sure. The degree to which it does it I don't know. But it will fragment it for sure. Okay so let me have you know what this is this is our next Twitter blitz and this is actually from Lenovo has their upcoming tech world event and there's a couple of hashtags that we want you guys to use in it. So we haven't done a Twitter blitz in a while and this one is pretty much open ended. So it's we're supposed to talk about what we think is next and it's for the upcoming tech world event. So I'm assuming if I were to talk about house plants that have genes injected into them that make them glow. Well I guess that's kind of tech isn't it. Yeah. Okay but let's talk let's talk computer tech. So I want you guys to post about what you think is next at Linus Tech on Twitter. Use these two hashtags boop at Linus Tech on Twitter and we're gonna go ahead we're gonna blitz through you guys in the next little while here. And it can be vague. So you want me to go first. Sure. Okay. So for me what's next whether I like it or not is wires are going away. That is something that is like I've been I've been kind of inching towards this for a while. You look at you look at Intel's what is it 50 50 gigahertz or whatever that stupid. What's the 58 gigahertz. I don't remember exactly what it is. The very very short range Wi Fi or the very short range wireless. Someone's going to correct me. In a short range wireless high speed I think it was like gigabit speed or something something ridiculous like that. High the why game 60 gigahertz. There we go. So you know seeing technology like that demoed and actually working seeing companies like Apple. So the MacBook 2015 was the thing that kind of feels like wow someone's already doing this. So when you go on Apple dot com they've got the iPhone the iPad they've got the MacBook and they've got the I watch they've got the Apple watch and they've got them all arranged in like I can't find the page right now but they've got them all arranged and it just says better together and what struck me about those products is that none of them encourage external connectivity. They all encourage cloud based storage they all encourage or and cloud based backup for things like photos they all encourage sync between the devices without thinking about it without plugging anything in and you know whether you're one of those people who believes Apple when they say DSLR like photo quality or whether you're one of those people who's like no I'm still going to need a USB cable and a card reader to transfer photos off my real freaking camera. Whoever you are Apple is trying to push that future forward today and if they're trying to do it then someone's going to come along and take that concept and clone it and do it better once the technology catches up a little bit and that future I think is coming. Wireless charging wireless data and the camera that I'm borrowing right now can transfer pictures to my phone over NFC. That's cool. Yeah. So there you go still so there you go that's what that's what I think is what's next is wires are just going to be gone completely gone. I think personally solar power is going to be a much bigger thing. The efficiency of the panels themselves and the efficiency of storage mechanisms have massively massively increased over the last little while. The home battery is a big deal hey. Yeah yeah there's a study that just came out of MIT talking about how we need to focus on it much more because there's just so much available power it's not even like oh well it's better for the planet or derp derp it's just like no there's a lot of it and it's super available and it's sitting right there and it's really not hard to take advantage of and it's literally there whether we like it or not. Yeah like it's super easy. Unless Mr. Burns builds a sunblocker we're kind of stuck with the sun. Yeah yeah. So yeah. Alright so let's have a look at what you guys think we never do Twitter blitzes anymore. To be hewish I wanted to one of the I should talk to you about prospective projects not on the land show. Oh okay. So Amy says the 6S gotcha. Okay. Um no idea but it better be shiny. GPUs coming from the manufacturer with water cooling being more common than ones with air cooling. That is an out there prediction. That is a very out there prediction. I think that will probably never happen. I think water cooled out of the box is going to be not a thing for a while. Kevin Hall says virtual reality contact lenses dear lord would I ever love for that to be next. I don't think that's next. That's and it's hopefully augmented reality because VR contact lenses how do I take them out when I want to see. It's like I want to eat my food. Yeah. You're going to have to have a camera somewhere for augmented reality. No because if you can see through them. Augmented reality would be fine. So if you can see through them then augmented reality is fine and if they were VR you couldn't see through them. Yeah. So you'd have to like wear a head mounted camera then and that have to like connect to them. So there are no wires and if I'm right and no wires is next then this will be later and there won't be any wires. But then that doesn't mean it's next. That doesn't mean it's next. Although did you hear about the bionic lenses. Yeah. Yeah. So that's some pretty freaking cool stuff. I don't have an article to show you guys or anything but my wife and I were talking about apparently in the next two to three years bionic lenses are coming with all the advantages and none of the drawbacks of surgeries like LASIK. So wow. Yeah like they don't degrade over time. You're not going to need glasses later. So I should just still not buy glasses. No you should still get glasses. He wants me to buy him a bigger teleprompter. So that he doesn't have to buy glasses. We should have a bigger teleprompter anyway. So that he doesn't have to buy glasses. No we should have a bigger teleprompter anyway. Teleprompter is crap. Even today filming it's like da da da da da da. The text on the screen is jumping all over the place. That's the best app. You should see the other ones. So get something that isn't based on an app. You should see the other ones. Oh I believe it but get something that's not based on an app. Alright next is another interesting VR presentation. Yeah okay. Most likely VR movies. That is not next but I do hope. I mean I think they're kind of called video games because to shoot a movie in VR and like have it be like how would you even get a camera rig that records in all directions. I think they're already working on that stuff. Yeah like they have 360 degree. They already have the camera rig. Yeah they have that but how could you shoot it in a way that... I think it would actually detract from the movie watching experience in certain ways. Like there's probably been a tech demo. It will be a totally different style. Like super different style. That's one thing to remember. Part of the movie experience is the filmmaker's control over your emotions and your experience. You're having the experience that they give you. Otherwise you might as well play a game. So yeah here we go. So this is an article from The Verge from January this year. So you hide from a cyborg or something like that. I don't see movies moving there. I see movies and games moving closer together as opposed to VR movies. So yes do agree Alan. I don't think it's next and I don't know what it will be called but it will be some kind of movie game? Movie game. Movie. Gamey. Moving. Some combination of the two. What's coming? Wireless power for PCs. I think we're a ways away from that too. Mind you as PC power goes down I can't think of any reason why a next or two gens from now like MacBook for example, could be wirelessly powered from a range that would make sense. Because technically you can do that now it's just gonna be super not great. David Rice, Cheaper higher resolution OLED? That is a super safe prediction there. USB 3.1 Type-C, that's already here, sort of. Yes, we do have one device that supports it. Cheaper high capacity SSDs, that's all definitely happening. Networked graphics, would love that. I don't know if it's next, but, well, okay. Strictly speaking, network graphics is already a thing. Nvidia Grid is on a network, even if it's the internet. But I think you mean local network graphics. Better battery tech for laptops and phones, that's always coming next. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know. 36 core Core i7 processor, that won't be for a while. I don't think it's coming next. I don't really think the battery thing is gonna change a whole lot until we change technologies. Seven day phone batteries, did you see the Lite Phone? The Lite Phone. Yeah, this thing's bananas. It's like the stupidest thing ever. But like, people will like it. It's on Kickstarter right now. We don't generally cover Kickstarter stuff, just cause a lot of it ends up never existing. So the Lite Phone by Lite, it met its goal, and pretty much what it is is a credit card sized phone. And you gotta take it with a big grain of salt whenever any manufacturer says credit card sized, cause it could be as thick as you want. Yeah, that's not credit card. That's not credit card sized. But the battery apparently lasts for 20 days, and straight up, all it does is make and receive phone calls. That's it, it is not smart. And it's 100 bucks. I'm like, okay. Okay. I guess I get it, so we're bringing back the brick. Well, do you need a SIM? But it's like a sexy brick. Yeah, you'd need a SIM. That sucks. Speaker, phone, here we go. There you go. I guess you could always rip the SIM from your dead smartphone. Yeah. The Lite Phone is a prepaid GSM cell phone that works independent of your carrier, comes preloaded with minutes, a SIM card, and an app to use with your existing phone. Okay, that's cool. So there you go. So they're a carrier now. The Lite Phone by Lite. I love companies that don't have a crazy amount of forethought in their product names. It's great. I think it's awesome. All right, so what else we got? More responses from people? Oh yeah, yeah, sure. Okay, so we'll do 10 more. 10 more Twitter blitzes. Less local storage and more theft of data. Yeah, okay. That's unfortunate. Mape says lower latency wireless to make things like wireless gaming peripherals a real viable option. Yeah, right now the only wireless gaming peripherals we have are extraordinarily expensive. And part of the problem with that is that, when you add $3 to the bottom cost of a peripheral product with the margin structure of that particular industry, you're adding anywhere from, I don't know, five to $15 to the actual retail price because retailers are expecting deep double digit margins, the manufacturer is making deep double digit margins, and people have different expectations for these products. If there's something wrong with it, they expect you to pop a new one in the mail for them and you expect to get it and not bother sending the old one back. And that's not the kind of thing that, you know, a motherboard manufacturer is ever gonna support because the margins on that product don't support it. So in order to not fall behind in customer service and perceived value, you can't actually just make your product cheaper and then expect people to just accept that. They're gonna expect all the other stuff and a better product and cheaper. So yeah, good point. Lower cost and lower latency wireless. Yeah, it's always batteries. It's always batteries when we discuss what do people want. Well, and I completely agree. I just don't think it's coming. Helix slash, I hope you're wrong. VR system, yes. Curved screen laptop, wow, I hope you're wrong. If you had one that was flexible, maybe. But why? But I've used a 24 inch curved display and it doesn't make sense. So like the curve at that size doesn't make sense. So for a laptop, unless you've got it like right to your face, I don't think it makes a ton of sense. That's quite the prediction. Apple will have nothing to do with unprecedented technologies at all. I don't, well, actually that's not really fair. I mean, Thunderbolt was unprecedented. They certainly had a lot to do with that. Just saying. I don't have much to say, but hi. All right. Another episode of Junkyard Wars. That's- Wow, now we're never filming. Yeah, now we're, okay, that's enough. No more Twitter blips. You just ruined it for everyone, Kevin Hall. Wow, Kevin Hall. Wow, Kevin Hall. Geez, Kevin Hall. It's called Scrapyard Wars. I'm gonna tweet that. When we do it. Junkyard Wars is some other show in a junkyard. It probably smells. I just typed in tweet.com. That's how distraught I am. That's pretty distraught right there. That's quite distraught. Spotify is apparently gonna have a New York press event. So this is, oh, no, not apparently. This is apparently a thing. So Spotify moves into video and podcasts with major media partnerships. So Spotify is not ready to lie down and have Apple completely eat their lunch on music streaming, nor are they wanting to limit themselves to music streaming forever. So short form videos and podcasts sourced from BBC, ESPN, and Comedy Central. ESPN is such a huge one. Sports is something that, I mean, where did we go for sports? Justin.tv, that's gone. Twitch no longer cares about that. Where, so what, you have to just go to the individual sports networks website every time? To be honest, there was a lot of people watching the Mayweather fight on Twitch. It just wasn't a legal thing. Wow. Anyway, that's something YouTube doesn't do particularly well. It's something that some of the leagues, particularly the NHL, doesn't do particularly well is things like highlights and analysis on YouTube. Having someone like ESPN come online with someone like Spotify, having other sports networks potentially sign up, that could be freaking awesome. That's the kind of thing where if they start to get some really great content, maybe I get off Google Play Music, maybe I start paying for Spotify instead. Get my music and that. And Comedy Central is another big one too, although regional licensing is gonna be a huge one because Comedy Central, I doubt very much. Yeah, so service will be launched in US, UK, Germany, and Sweden. So Comedy Central is probably not coming to Canada anytime soon because I think there's some complicated stuff between Comedy Central and Comedy Network. Yeah. And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Regional, man, sucks. It's annoying. It's super hyper, duper annoying. Apparently, this is cool though, Spotify's new version will have tempo detection, which will keep pace with your feet when you are working out. Why would you want that? I'd like that. Like something a little bit like. What? Like when you're walking, you listen to a different. No, no, no, the song doesn't speed up or slow down. That would be awkward. Oh, yeah, I was like, what the crap? Okay, that makes sense. So for song selection. Yeah. So if you're doing like a super hard workout, then like cool. And if you're not, then like that's cool too. Tempo as in. I'd like to see it tied to. I wish heart rate. I was just gonna say. I'd like to see it tied to heart rate instead, but this is a step in the right direction. That's one annoying thing. That watch that I'm not gonna talk a ton about right now. I'll go bust out like a pretty intense workout and then come home and be like, you were active for one minute today. I'm like, screw you. That's not true. Is it because of the phone? Not a ton of movement. Right, because you're like lifting. If I'm moving from like a squat rack to a bench or whatever, like. Right. Really not that far. So what you're saying is that fitness trackers still have a ways to go for all the different types of fitness that happens to be. So me, for example. That one. I engage in mind fitness. Wow. It's where I sit and think so hard about fitness that I get ripped. No. No. What about that belt that you can wear that vibrates? Oh. It is so funny. Like the celebrities that have sold out so hard. Well, that's exactly it. It's the celebrity endorsements. I saw a commercial for one of those things that had like Denise Richards and someone else in it. And I was like, are you really worth that little? If it worked, everyone would have one. Everybody. You know, they reached out about doing advertising with S1s. One of them. I can't remember which one. We should do a review. I, no, no. It was like, they weren't gonna send a review unit. That was not the idea. Get them to send us a, I'll wear it for like a month. Okay. So. Actually no, it won't. Cause I'm gonna work out a naturally anyways. Dumb. So basically I had never looked into them. Like I knew they were on late night TV. Not everything on late night TV is bad. The bad mix for example, is a great handheld mixer. And it's one of those as seen on TV, like stupid commercial with, and you get the nut scrambler with it. And not a sexual thing. Well, the George Foreman grills are actually really good. George Foreman grills also awesome. Probably anything that Billy Mays ever advertised. Because it's Billy freaking Mays. My puppy, really? I don't know. Okay. Anyway. I believe Billy. So I'd never looked into them cause I just assumed they were stupid. But now we were having a real conversation with money involved. So I was like, okay, I should probably find out if they're dumb. And every site I found was so positive. And I was like, no, nothing can be that amazing. And it was at that time that I realized that basically they just spam websites. I was not aware of this particular strategy. I've never really looked into the ways people get scammed online. Cause it was never really a concern for me. I navigate directly to a website that I want to go to. I'm not much of a surfer. So I was like, oh. So they just create endless websites with slightly different SEO strategies so that something will surface. And they create them over and over and over again all the time so that something positive will surface before all the reviews about how it's completely stupid and pointless are able to be found. And I was like, okay, no. And go away. But yeah, I don't remember I was going with this anymore. OCZ has a new NVMe SSD. So NVMe SSDs are coming. This was posted by NumLock21 on the forum. What available formats are there for this? The show is kind of over by the way, but we can do this. Is it? What time is it? Oh, how did that happen? 6.0.10. 6.0.10. I was gonna say nine but I assumed the minute was gonna flip over. And then there we go. Now it's 6.10. While you were speaking, you thought the minute would actually flip over. I did. Mid-word. You were gonna time it that precisely. That was the plan. You're a hero. I was off by like five seconds. So capacities anywhere from, I think it was 800 gigs to 6.4 terabytes. They're compliant with NVMe 1.1. They support two hosts, accessing them simultaneously. Or apparently that update is coming in Q3 or something, which is completely bananas. Like what the heck? So you could have a virtual machine natively accessing, like two virtual machines accessing it natively or something is what that sounds like to me. I'm sure someone's gonna correct me, but that sounds completely off the hook. And performance is in the neighborhood of like three gigabytes per second. Not quite. So it's sequential read speeds at 2.9 gigabytes per second. And write speeds at 1.9 megabytes per second. Sustain using 19 nanometer NAND. And there's both a 6,000 series using MLC flash and a 6,300 series using enterprise grand ENLC flash. Very cool. Do we know what form factors it comes in? PCI express, I would assume. No. Really doubt it. Yeah. So it's gonna support self-encryption in the Q3 update. And then data protection. So this is all important enterprise stuff. But yeah, okay. So here's the dual port functionality. It's gonna launch with single port functionality with an upgrade in Q3. Does this using a newer generation of the 16 channel PMCCR of Princeton controller than what is found on competing models. And the advantage of having dual port functionality is allows two hosts to access the drive both concurrently. That's ridiculous. Okay then. I guess we'll see what that sort of means. Yeah. Later on down the road. Should we do a couple of our rapid fires? We can, we're 12 minutes over time. Damikiller posted on the forum that Ducky is teasing their first mouse. We don't have a whole ton of detail about this yet. Ducky never, they're always just like random photo on Facebook. That's their whole thing. It's always ridiculous. Ducky secret. Oh dude, this will probably be in Taiwan. Continual improvement. Oh yeah, they're definitely showing it at Computex. That's a thing. So, yeah. Da da da da da da da da. Doesn't look super interesting. Could a mouse look that interesting? No. Quality and precision is what matters, Luke. Hey, we put one of the like very few good sensors in it and some plastic around it. That isn't bad. And Omron switches. EA is apparently teasing Need for Speed Underground 3. Nice. So they're gonna have to prove that that's a good game. Yeah, someone told me, I think Nick told me about this and I was like, yup, don't care. Was a huge fan of the previous ones and I have no confidence that this will be good. But, I will pay attention. I'm not gonna get hyped up because there's so many ways that they could screw it up. The Logitech G29 is apparently in the final stages of validation. That is allegedly what it looks like. So it's got a whack ton of buttons and seems to be targeted more at the PlayStation crowd. If we're to go by that, apparently PlayStation logo. That looks like a PlayStation logo to me. It does. And the circle square X triangle button arrangement. That could be a different model thing though. Could be, absolutely could be. And you would only need two models. And they've done PlayStation exclusive wheels in the past. And then you could have like an Xbox slash PC one. Yeah. Razer launched the Firefly Chroma Mouse Pad. So this is supposed to be, oh, and the last one was from Xtank Slayer X or just Tank Slayer, I guess. And this one's from Ah Ming. Original article here is from Tom's Hardware. So if the question you were asking yourself was, what can we put RGB LEDs in next? The answer is a mouse pad. You know, I was really amped about the RGB keyboards. And I super don't care anymore. Do you care anymore? I still have one on my desk. And I have it set to kind of a purple color that's very similar to the UV lights in my case. And since then I have not touched any kinds of effects or anything, cause it's kind of distracting. It is. I don't care. And you know what? I'd like my PBT key cap so much that I just want that and no glow. Cause I never look at my keyboard anyways. I do still like the backlight. I like the backlight. Sure, that's fine. But I don't know. I was super hyped for it too. I was like, yay, innovation in keyboards. And then I was like, I actually don't care. I just like my nice key caps. So there you go. Now you can plug your mouse pad in via USB as well. I'm really glad they didn't put LEDs on the actual surface of the mouse pad cause it probably would have wrecked tracking on every mouse ever. But I'm sure Razer's smart enough to not do something that phenomenally stupid. So there you go. You can have a- The next product comes out. Yeah. LEDs. Interlaced LEDs. The woven fibers of the mouse pad have LED elements at either end. And you can like make a rainbow. You can like make Nyan Cat. They're in the shape of snakes. They slither across the mouse pad in a destructive manner. This is just funny because of his name. So original articles from Polygon. This was posted by Good Bites. Nintendo's new VP of sales. His name is actually Doug Bowser. Yeah. In his like photo that they took of him in his new office or whatever, saying like, thank you for the warm welcome. There's Mario and Luigi tied up by a GameCube controller in the background on the shelf. That was like a joke. Yeah. So that's pretty funny. And I guess that's pretty much all there is to say about that. Thank you guys very much for tuning into the WAN Show. Oh, that's kind of cool. Wounded turtle can return to the ocean thanks to a 3D printed titanium beak. It's like a future turtle. Look at that, man. Well, that's badass. Yeah, it actually looks like a teenage mutant Ninja Turtles like character or something. That's cool. If someone is going to make a video game bad guy or like movie character based on this picture, mark my words. But that's the coolest looking thing ever. People already have like metal replacement stuff. Yeah, but it'll be like really based on this. Like it'll be very close. It'll be close. Okay. It's a prediction that I can't lose on. Unlike the one about these T-shirts, which I can lose on. Did I tell them what exactly the wager was? No. Okay. I thought you weren't going to. Well, I'll do that on after party. Right. All right, so thanks for watching guys. Bye Long Show. See you next week. No, I don't think the show was actually long because we started way late. It was. It wasn't crazy long. We'll find out. It's like five minutes long or something. Sometimes it's five minutes long. Sometimes it's not about the length. You know what? The girth of the show. Is the girth your bandwidth? I don't know, because what would like the ink lines be then? Your, how fast you are. Repetition. No, because PING is just. Iteration, iteration.