 Boom. And we're live. Hey, all right. Hey, welcome to the WAN Show. This week we have John, it's been a while. It has been a while. Do you remember the last time? No, I don't. I remember- Someone in the audience- I vaguely remember a Santa hat maybe. A Santa hat? So it's probably been a while. Okay, but that might've been the, like, I've done this every year where I bring each person onto the show. Yeah, at the end. Well, it might've been that. Yeah, when I got stuck at the US border. People are saying John, but they're spelling it wrong. Oh no, someone spelled it right. That happens literally every time. Like, it happens to me on Twitter and my name is right there. It's on Twitter. And it says it doesn't- If they send you a message, it has the at and then the correct spelling of your name. And if you're on the forum, you might know, in my signature, I say, I spell my name without an H. People still get it wrong. So I'm used to it by now. I don't even notice it anymore. Yeah. Well, that's a lie, I do, but you know. My problem is that I know, like, three different spellings of John. Well, no, one of them is Johnny, I guess. Oh yeah, okay. But his is like actually kind of weird for a Johnny. What is, cause it's five letters. Yeah. Yeah. So- I don't know. Yeah. We're talking about the guy that does some of our- Yeah. Server work here, who was also my landlord, funnily enough. And people have seen him on camera a couple times. Oh yeah, they have, so yeah. Johnny's basically the nicest person on the entire planet, but he can't make it to- So every single year, we'll get into the show in a second. Don't worry, but every single year, since I was like 15, I've been going to PAX West and I bring all my friends every time. And Johnny can't make it this time. Really? And it's very weird. It's actually like very, very weird that he's not gonna be- That really is strange. The rest of the people that are gonna be going are all like, it's so weird that Johnny's not gonna, what are we gonna do? I don't know. I feel like he would be the straw that serves to drink, so to speak. Yeah, yeah. So it'll be interesting, but it should be good. This week, we have interesting news because like Computex is happening and E3 is right around the corner and all this kind of stuff. There's interesting stuff going on. We don't have a lot of gaming news quite yet because I think that'll probably be next week. But we've got Intel news, a unnamed 28-core, 56-thread CPU. We've got news about second-gen Threadripper being on track for a Q3 2018 launch. That means this year. Also, massive changes to the Steam store. We were talking about this recently on a WAN show. It's gonna be crazy. I actually think it's super cool, but we'll talk about that later. There's an obscene amount of notes on that. AMD unveiling a seven-nanometer GPU. That's insane. Gigabyte making fake RAM, and it's actually really cool. So it's kind of like bonded leather. I understand that. And then actually my favorite news of this week, even though it doesn't necessarily sound super cool, Seasonic introducing SCMD and your cable clutter. It's amazing. I can't show you what it is right now. I'm getting one for Shurzies, but we'll have to talk about that later. I'm constantly kicking the cables underneath my desk in my office. They won't help you with that. It's like cables inside your computer. But it's super cool. We'll get there later. Okay. A-boom! It worked! This week is going well. Yes. It was going well until I died, I guess. RIP. Also, Anthony Bourdain died. Yes, I know, very sad. He was what, 61, I think. I don't know. I liked him though. That sucks. Fresh books! Fresh books! LTX, be there or don't, but preferably be there if you can, because it's cool and I'd like to say hi. Also, Squarespace! Yeah! I'm gonna put this back up here. And we're back. Boom. Okay. That's all it takes. Wanshow intro completed. Let's move up to the top, because we've got this crazy Intel processor that has some interesting news coming with it. Thank you, by the way, to Vegetable Stew and Radiating Light for sourcing this. Ah, Vegetable Stew, I see we did it there. Oh. Very clever. Oh. Yeah. I'm gonna post this link in the WAN doc. You look like you had something to say. Do you? I was just commenting on Vegetable Stew. Although I did cover this today. Well, James covered it, but I wrote the thing today for TechLink on this story. Oh, okay. Yeah. So do you have any interesting quips from that? Because you definitely know more about it than I do. I have some interesting things to bring up, but. Okay. What do you think? Okay, well, without, I guess without running through the bullet points first. So I'll give a quick TLDR. Sure, yeah. So Computex, Intel shows off this 28 core, 56 thread CPU, and it did this demo of it, and it was like, oh man, this CPU is running at five gigahertz. It's so cool. So after it happened, a few people noticed that there was a gigantic, weird, like, industrial water chiller sticking out the back of the unit. I think they had it set up such that you couldn't see it straight on when they were actually doing the demo for members of the press. Oh, so they were. Oh. So, but that wasn't even like the worst of it. They also said this chip was running at five gigahertz, not telling people that it had actually, in fact, been overclocked. So a lot of people were thinking that, oh, this thing is just going to run, this freaking 28 core Xeon is just going to run at five gigahertz out of the box, which was not the case at all. Intel got called out on it. They had to acknowledge it. And then they ended up saying, oh, well, they blamed it on, quote unquote, the excitement of the moment or something like that. And they said that their guy running the demo just forgot. He forgot to say, oh, by the way, this is not running at stock speed. So people were very understandably upset about this. That's lame, but honestly, I can kind of understand if it's just the demo guy that forgot to say it. Now, if there was like press documents given out to any degree, it should have it in there. And the guy shouldn't forget. Admittedly, I'm not sure if there were documents handed out, but I think it was just whoever was running the demo said five gigahertz, if I'm not mistaken. Come on, man, don't forget that. So the processor is clocked at 2.7 gigahertz normally. And without revealing turbo speeds, they haven't done, they were able to overclock it to five gigahertz, which is pretty crazy. The demo setup was cooled by an $850 aquarium chiller, which consumes, which the chiller alone consumes 1200 watts and is meant to be able to cool 1000 liters of water. So we have just found an actual use. If you buy a 1600 watt power supply, we finally found a real world use case. So you run a 400 watt computer. It's a 1200 watt chiller. That would be sick. I'd love to see that. So yeah, it's pretty cool. We'll have to see how freaking hot this thing actually gets normally and how high you can overclock it with reasonable cooling solutions. And I'm sure Linus will be all over that once he's able to get his hands on it. Or if I find reasonable, like was a 480 millimeter radiator reasonable or? That's fairly aggressive. Yeah, but it's not the same. It's way more reasonable than this. It's better than the aquarium chiller. Even like a triple red. Personally, I would like to see a double red, a double 120 or double 140. Yeah. That's very, whatever you can overclock it on that, that's solid. Cause I think that's probably where most people kind of are when they're really wanting to be an overclock. A nice thick THICC, but still regular sized radiator. Yeah. I'd be cool with that. So that'll be interesting. Next up in crazy processor news, we've got a post from Alex Solo, thank you very much, saying that the second generation Threadripper is on track for a Q3 2018 launch. It's AMD Zeppelin Silicon. Let me get this on screen and in the Twitch chat. Zeppelin, so we've moved away from like earth moving material and now we're doing blimps. And awesome music. Okay. There we go. Cool. 12 nanometer, 32, 64 second gen features. I know a lot of people are saying like, oh, it's not the most exciting processor ever. I don't care. Is there, well, sorry go ahead. I'm mainly just stoked that they're continuing to step forward instead of abandoning for a huge section of years again. Well, is there anything that's like a most exciting processor ever anymore, even just with the way the industry has been? There's some really exciting computer hardware later on in the show. I am so stoked for this. You have no idea. I think most of the people in chat are gonna be like, yawn, but I think it's amazing. So don't worry about it. But yeah, I think this is super cool. It's, I think it's great that they're pushing forward again with Threadripper going with their big heavy hitter as well, bringing out another one this year. That's super cool. They're not backing down. It's 32, 64, which is sick. I'm really excited for this process. No, that's insane. 250 watt TDP. Boom. So. Boom. It's a big one. Don't even care. Super cool. Mm-hmm. So we're not, not in the literal sense, but. Yeah. Ah. It's nice and warm actually. They've got it displayed next to some NH-U14Ss, which aren't even that huge. So that's not too bad. That's a beautiful looking board. Good job MSI. I like that aesthetic. That's cool. That one too. Woo. Oops. Everyone has cool boards these days. I like that. Like when I first got into computers, it was like, oh wow, you got a board with a black PCB. Yeah. That's amazing. Even having a non-green, like it felt like back in, well like 2009, 2010, it was like, oh, the PCB is blue, buy this. And that was it. Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. And now we have like, like this one has like under lighting that's RGB, like metal accents and like aggressive little thing over the IO. Like they look so cool now. I don't know. That's pretty sweet. But yeah, this is cool. I'm very happy that they're launching another processor. I know some people weren't that interested. Like I was saying earlier, AMD Zeppelin Silicon has eight cores and it's the first generation Threadripper and the first generation Threadripper uses two of them to get the top skew of 16 cores. That's written a little oddly, but hopefully that makes sense. Yeah. Moving on. Yeah. I think that's pretty much about it. Yeah. Rumors are saying August and there's no pricing yet. Yeah. So coming up, hopefully, hopefully you got the dollar bills for it. If you need 64 threads. Yeah. I was going to say, if you need that, if you need that, it's probably for some type of work application. So hopefully it's okay. I would say almost certainly for work. Yeah. Like maybe there's someone out there who just really likes benchmarking. Just freaking loves it. Or like is just really, really into editing home videos in like wicked quality. Yeah, exactly. Like someone out there. I need to have cinema level quality of my kid playing ball hockey. Just spent like five figures on like a red or something. And like, I need, yes, I need to look, make the driveway ball hockey. Yeah. Look like it was put together by. I need to film my kid schooling the neighbor kid in hockey with a red. Yeah. And then edit it very efficiently. So when they send like the kids like hockey mix takes to the junior leagues, they're going to be like, the production values are amazing. We got to have this kid. We got to bring this kid 100%. Moving on to the next topic posted by matrix07012. James and I were. Someone is yelling. What the heck? I don't know if Twitch got to hear that, but James and I were talking about this last week. Twitch took a game down where you were a school shooter. Wait, Twitch did or Steam did? Sorry, Steam did. Okay. Completely. I don't know. I just, I said Twitch because I was clicking on the Twitch tab and it just like invaded my brain. But yeah, Steam took a game down because it was like about a school shooter. Also Twitch chat apparently heard the yell. So thank you, Ape. But yeah. And my stance on that was essentially if Twitch wants to do this, if this is within Twitch's policies, why do I keep saying Twitch? If Steam wants to do this and this is within Steam's policies, maybe I should just say it aggressively. Yeah. You're actually turning red. I don't like saying the wrong thing, man. Let's go. Yeah. You probably can't tell at home, but this guy looks like a lobster right now. Like to me. I have very pale skin, so it shows really easily. It's that Scandinavia in me. But yeah, I think it's completely within their right to take it down. Some people were screaming for free speech and I'm like, this isn't a government platform. It's a company if they don't want to have school shooter game. Yeah, they can do basically whatever they want to do with it. But I also really like what they ended up doing, which is saying that we don't care anymore. Yeah. So what they're doing now is they're only removing items that are actually illegal or straight up trolling, quote, quote from them. So, but unless it's one of those two things, then the game is probably fine. Yeah. So like my stance on this is interesting because people, there's actually a surprising amount of people that have asked me about this. Because of how I run the forum and how I run Flowplane. Because they're actually so different. On the forum, things get axed all the time. This is a tech forum, stop screwing around. We're gonna get rid of your stuff, whatever. It's a little bit different though, because on the forum, you have to like keep peace between users or it falls apart. This is just a store where if you don't want to act, interact with anyone, you don't have to. And it's also like the center of the topic here is supposed to be games. Not a type of game. And the center of the thing on the forum is tech news. You go, or tech stuff in general. I was thinking the tech news section, but the computer stuff, tech stuff, gaming stuff, whatnot. If you're going outside of that, it might make sense in off topic, but if it's too far, like we're not, we don't want to mess with that kind of stuff. This is a tech focused forum. Flowplane on the other hand, is a website for creators. If you are a user and you go on Flowplane and you don't want to see a certain type of content, don't give the person who makes that content your money and you won't see it. It's fairly straightforward. So I don't really care what people do on the platform. And I don't want to care. I can have the stance personally where I'm like, as a personal human being, as Luke, I don't like this content. I don't necessarily hope that they do well. I don't hope that they have a big audience. I'm just going to vote with my wallet. But I'm going to facilitate their platform and be impartial because I am acting on behalf of a platform. And I will do nothing to hinder them in any way because that would be bad. Were you saying that the Steam store was allowing the school shooting game or they took it down? I think they took it down. But I think that was, because right now they're going with the allow everything approach, but I believe they took it down and I believe they're keeping it down because I'm pretty sure the guy that made it was already banned from releasing games and he made it as a troll. I'm pretty sure. Which they are reserving the right to kick off. Another interesting question is what even is a game? Because you can publish stuff on Steam. Is it a game if it's a visual novel and you just click next constantly? Does it now make it a game if there's multiple options? It's to click next. That still could be a visual novel. It's just a choose your own adventure visual novel. Does that make it a game? Does that not make it a game? It's an interesting conversation. What's up? So this is why I've sort of been silent for a second because I think, so okay, here we go. Steam's policy change follows the platform's banning of controversial school shooting simulation game Act of Shooter. So yes, you were correct. So they took this down. Yeah. But I think what this is saying is that they would have left it up. But this guy was already banned off the platform. They think he's trolling. He's a notorious troll. He has a record of having terrible customer service and all this other kinds of stuff. There's other reasons why they wanted to take this thing down. So I think they're leaving it down because of those reasons. Gotcha. It's gonna be an interesting time because I think this is gonna spawn, not that there isn't already, but I think it'll spawn an incredible amount more of garbage on Steam. There is already a lot of garbage on Steam. Because there's no law against a bad game. Yeah. So yeah, I know what you mean. So they have, yeah, it's interesting. And another thing that they were talking about is how apparently there was a lot of controversy in the community as to whether or not they should allow everything or they should ban a whole bunch of different stuff or whatever. There's a lot of controversy in the community, right? A lot of people were angry that they took this game down. I'm not. First of all, I don't care. Second of all, I think it's their right to do whatever they want. It's their platform. And third of all, they already didn't like the publisher, bad customer service, troll, banned already in the past. So there's many reasons. But some people were very upset that they took it down. Some people were very, some people think they should have taken it down. Some people think they shouldn't have, basically. And what Valve has said is internally, apparently they've had essentially that same war. They have the same spectrum of people that are outside talking about this inside the company. So they've essentially decided if the community's all mixed and we're all mixed, we'll kinda let the community sort it out. Well, yeah, I mean, you talk about a lot of trash potentially showing up on the platform, but this is the same for the App Store. Or this is the same for Google Play. There was a lot of stuff there that all that Google or Apple have done have vetted to say this does not contain malware. But other than that, there's no guarantee as to the quality of what you're buying. But the model still works, especially on Steam, where I feel like it's easier to filter out stuff that you don't wanna see as far as recommendations or whatever. I do think they'll need to do a much better job of categorizing and filtering things. I know they do some suggestions already, but they need to amp up that system. I know that they plan on making it so that there's parental controls in terms of what stuff you can see and what stuff you can't see. Obviously, that's gonna have to come in. So theoretically, you wouldn't be able to see Active Shooter or a game with booms or something. A game with booms or something. Yeah. Wifu Banging Simulator 2019. Wifu Banging Simulator 2019. Wifu Banging Simulator 2019. Unless you have your settings to be allowed to see those types of games. Wifu Banging Simulator 2019. It's, yeah, it's next year. Yeah, 10% more polygons. Already, yeah. It's amazing. It's the best game, if it even is a game. I don't know. Moving on to my favorite thing in this show. I don't know if everyone else is gonna agree with me, but I think it's freaking fantastic. I'm getting one for Shirzies. This was posted by WMKGroomAK on the forum. It is a PC per article, and it's from Seasonic. It is the Seasonic SCMD. Well, let's have a look at this thing. It's the System Cable Management Device. That's what SCMD stands for. You think they could have, you know what I would say you think they would come up with, if they're going to have a four-letter name, they could do something sexy, like the NZXT puck or whatever it is. Yeah, SCMD doesn't like. SCMD. SCMD. I'm just gonna go down to the store and buy some SCMD. So what's cool about this is it's this bar. What is this sound? Good. Someone is shuffling through some equipment over there. Sorry about that, Twitch Chat. But, and YouTube later on, but it's this bar that you can put into the back of your computer. You can see there's some SSDs mounted here and stuff. And you plug all your PowerSpy cables into the bottom of the bar, and then you branch off them later on, higher up. So, yeah, speaking of NZXT, they have a few of their cases on it. So I can know the S340's know for this. They have the cable management bar built in, but this one looks a little bit more like a one size fits most kind of solution instead. Yes, and my understanding of it right now is like, because in this picture, in this picture it shows that it's connected directly to the PowerSpy, but this bar you can see is off by itself. They're like, I don't have a ton of pictures of this thing, but my understanding is that you should be able to get it separately. That's what, yeah, it kind of, I mean, if they're going to introduce this thing called the SCMD, and it'll make a big deal out of it, you would think that you could buy it without buying a Seasonic PowerSpy, so. Apparently that is an RGB logo, so this Seasonic logo is RGB. Can I say I'm a little bit surprised by this? Because Seasonic's whole like, MO is a company, they're very like straightforward, not a whole lot of frills. Like, if any of y'all follow Seasonic on Twitter, you probably know what I'm talking about, but the stuff they make is pretty good, so. I really like this stuff. Even something, even, we were not compensated to say that, just personal opinion, but. Well, if you look at my personal rig, there's a Seasonic in it. Right, yeah. Geodude has a Seasonic PowerSpy. That's right, but yeah, even as some. And that was not a sponsorship, so. It's fine. It's fine, continue. No, just, I was just gonna say, even something as, you know, a simple revision of an RGB logo surprises me a bit, but I think it looks pretty sharp, so. Yeah, yeah. Like, even their Prime power supplies, there's no RGB on it. But yeah, apparently it does drop your efficiency by 1% overall. That's really not a lot. My main thing is, in what it looks like this case right here, in my case at home, cable management in the back of tempered glass cases, especially when there's not a big gap, is a nightmare. Yeah, absolutely. And this looks really good. Yeah, and that's the trend now, isn't it? Because you're seeing more and more cases that even, like reasonable price points where it's tempered glass all the way around, and I think there was just an assumption that people thought this would be cool, and that has been true to a degree, but there's also plenty of you out there that just want to hide all the messy cable routing behind the motherboard tray, so. It looks like it can power some fans. Are those- You see this right here. Are those fans or those SATA? I'm pretty sure those are fans. I think you're right, yeah, those look like fan cables, yeah. Everything seems like it's seemingly intelligently placed to, like this looks like a SATA bridge coming right off of there with a really short run, directly, just because you have some right there. So this is right up at the top and it's your CPU power, 24 pins right off on that side. Like it looks like they've paid attention. It does, as long as you're not running some like weird exotic setup where you have like SATA headers like all the way up towards the top, it looks like it's probably fine for most systems. Even then it might work. I just, I don't have very good pictures. I don't know the- Yeah. And this, okay, to be fair, this little blue cable, I just realized almost certainly doesn't come with it. These are probably after markets. Maybe they sell them as like a kit that like goes with it or something. I don't have to see. I don't know a ton about it right now. It could just be cable, my cables, I don't know, but- But I actually think that's really cool. That's the first, this happens to every show. I don't know why Google Docs decides to sign me out partway through every single time. It's so annoying. That's happened to me before when I tried to upload tech wiki videos. Thanks Google. But- But- It's the first time in a long time that I've looked at a piece of computer hardware and been like, I am going to buy that basically now. And put it in my system right away. The 1% efficiency drop is really funny to me. Not because, well, I do think it's good that they're being transparent about it, but I can see someone out there with like an 80 plus power supply, like the lowest year of 80 plus. And they hook this thing up to it and they're like, oh, well, there goes my superior efficiency to that, you know, Raid Max power supply, my Povea neighbor, blah, blah, whatever, so I don't know. Apparently it will come in three sizes, which makes sense. There's probably like general ITX cases, general MATX cases. Oh, are they going to make different sizes of it? Yeah, three sizes. Yeah, you know, and I know I said this before, but I'm still baffled as to why MATX is not a more popular thing. If you're a gamer, it's like the most logical four factor to get, but that's a different discussion, so. Yeah, I think it's, I like it and it's really not popular, but I, yeah, I agree and I have no idea why. But on that note of having no idea why, I have no idea why if you are making a new website and don't have a website yet for your like small business or self or whatever, you don't check out Squarespace. They have 24 seven live chat and email support. So if you have any problems, I have no idea why you wouldn't just contact them. Also, it's only 12 bucks a month and you get a free domain if you subscribe for a year. They have responsive design, so it looks great on your various devices, like your phone, your tablet, your laptop, your watch, your desktop, whatever, your TV, doesn't even matter. They have commerce modules, so you can have a free built in online store if you wanna sell some stuff, which is really cool. No, screw off, don't restart. I pick a time, which is not now. We're just having some slight technical difficulties. 9 p.m., I hate Windows 10. Why are we using Windows 10 on this computer? Anyways, moving on. Cover pages, if you wanna have like a one simple page setup, which is just good for resumes or cover letters, or like, hey, look at me, this is my About Me page. It's perfect for that. Also, everyone can now publish content in the Apple News format directly from their Squarespace blog module, which makes it available to millions of potential users because there's tons of people on that. You can start a trial with no credit card required and start building your website today. When you do decide to sign up, check out this link right here, squarespace.com slash wan, and put in offer code wan to save 10% off your first purchase. You know, I also have problems saying Squarespace. Whenever I do it, whenever I do a Squarespace thing for TechWookie, I say Squarespace. Squarespace. I think I almost said that. I'm like, why do I do this? I don't think I've ever done that before. Maybe it was like your presence. Oh my God. See, now I'm just ruining the rest of our productions now. I hope Linus doesn't see this. Don't want to ruin things like your accounting and like your write-offs. You could use FreshBooks. You should use FreshBooks. To keep track of everything. FreshBooks is a super simple invoicing tool that actually does a lot more than just invoices. It helps you keep track of your invoices. It helps you keep track of your expenses. It helps you keep track of your hours, all that kind of stuff. It keeps track of who owes you what, which is great. It also has a feature that tells you when your clients look at an invoice for the first time and it has a mobile app, which has all the functionality of their desktop application, which is really good. It's a lot of new business owners just use phones to run through their stuff so they can move around and do things. You can take FreshBooks wherever you go, which is great. If you have any questions, feel free to reach out to their support staff or you'll speak to a human. No phone tree, no escalations, no return calls, just answers. Also visit freshbooks.com slash WAN, which are WAN and the How Do You Hear About It section when you sign up to get a free trial, which is pretty cool. And speaking of pretty cool, LTX! You're pretty cool if you show up to LTX because then I'll see you and that would be pretty neat. LTX is a meetup and interactive tech event. The interactive, honestly, the meetup part is hopefully cool. You get to meet all of us here at Linus Media Group, which might sound weird because I'm not part of, whatever, don't worry about it. But you get to meet everyone from Linus Media Group plus me. And the really cool part though, and the reason in my opinion why you should go is because it is a interactive tech event. It's not just a convention where you get to go see a couple of booths and you maybe take a picture with someone and you bail. You get to go do stuff. There are actual things to do, which is amazing. Like I'm not even kidding or trying to oversell this at all. I had so much fun last year. It was very, very enjoyable. I liked it as well. And like it was so cool that Rod and Bob were there showing people how to do hardline water cooling bends with actual tubes. You got to sit there with a heat gun and make a tube bend with hardline water tubing, which takes some of the fear out of it. This year we're gonna be doing- Deleting tutorials. Deleting your CPUs. That is sick. Where else can you just try to learn that from people that really know what they're talking about? I don't know. LTX is a really cool event. If you wanna check it out, you absolutely should. It is held on July 14th at the Richmond Olympic Oval in Richmond, BC. I know it's in Canada. I'm sorry. Try to get here if you can. The good news is you don't have to know how to skate. That's true. Unlike in 2010, where they had the Olympics there and they had the speed skating. Yeah. The ice is gone. So you can just walk in. You don't have to skate in. Yeah, it's completely fine. Completely fine. Current booths include a blind cable management competition brought to you by CableMod, a delidding workshop so you can bring your CPUs and we'll show you how to delid it, a cable toss, or sorry, case toss 2.0, which is cool, that was a good idea that it got updated, multi-headed VR so you can go up against each other in VR, which is cool. A LAN? That's cool. We're gonna have an actual LAN tournament. Yeah. A 12K ultra-wide gaming setup. What? That's like 4K, but times three. Times three. And more. There will be more on top of that. There's gonna be food. There's gonna be music. There's gonna be music? Probably. Okay. Where's Colton? I wonder, is it live music or are we just gonna play music over speakers? Please direct all inquiries, Twitter at colton underscore potter. That, ask him everything. There'll be cool systems to look at, for sure. More room, more games, more swag than last year. The fact that we have more swag is insane because every single person left with at least one thing last year. There's special guests. There's exclusive live unboxings, just like last year. Linus will probably drop something. Probably. Yeah. And more, which includes the Linus dropping something. Come hang out, tickets start at $35 Canadian. That's really not that much money. It really isn't. It's worth almost nothing. $35 Canadian, if you're American or from the EU, you probably have that much in like whatever your currency is, just in your couch cushions right now. So. And you can check, it says them out, but what? That's weird. It's just, you can check the link out in the link below or on screen if you're watching on Twitch over there. LTXExpo.com. It's super hard to get to. And then that brings us to the Flute Plane, which I don't know if I have. We had a very, very, very illuminating episode of Tech Quickie out on Flute Plane today. Oh. Very illuminating. What one is it? Should I tell them or are we really trying to plug this? Is it this one? Yeah. Oh, that's pretty interesting. Isn't it though? See, if this guy says it's interesting, he's been doing this longer than I have. So that's actually, I don't know. Yeah. And I want to know. So we're gonna show my screen so it doesn't seem insane, but there's a Tech Quickie episode on the fastest possible internet. How fast can you actually go? Yeah. How fast can you download? Gotta go fast. Questionable videos. Yeah, pretty much. That's a question. There's AMD's 32 core FU to Intel. Wow, that's a little... For a second, I thought you were gonna read out the model number that started with FU. Portable professional workstation with three displays. That thing is actually insane. And a pumpless liquid cooler from Der Bauer, which that's another video. Both these videos at the top, I'm super interested in checking out. Anytime Der Bauer does anything, it's amazing. It sounds very German and intense. Well, yeah, it is. German engineering. Also, there is Bitwit Ultra on here and TechDeals. I'm not gonna show you their stuff because I don't know if I'm really necessarily even allowed to, but if you're a fan of TechDeals or if you're a fan of Kyle at Bitwit, check out their channels as well. Their stuff comes on here a week early. Everyone's using the same model right now. Fullplane does not make people use this exact model, but everyone has done the exact same thing, which is fine, but it's three bucks per channel so far. Every single person has gone with $3, and you get their content a week early. The comment section is awesome because there's way less cancer than on YouTube. Way less. It's like always positive discussion, which is super cool. And we have, in terms of features that are coming soon, one of the really cool ones that people have been asking for a while is playback speed. There's some guys that apparently watch it like two times or one and a half times on YouTube because they just gotta get stuff done. I'm guilty of watching things at 1.5x on YouTube sometimes. That is, that's actually a good feature. Fully operational relatively soon. And just the comment section thing, on Floatplane, you can actually have a comment score of the negative. So if someone just posts like, if someone just posts the hottest of takes, they'll get like a minus 50. So that's another perk. I think it was on this video, but I don't see it. But someone said first, and they're just like negative 26. That was on mine. Oh, that was the tech wiki? That was on today's tech wiki. That was so funny. Yeah, first negative 29. Just slammed. So yeah, you can do that. It's possible. For those of you who watched already, thanks very much. Shout out to Portugal. You'll know what I'm talking about if you watched. If not, you'll see next week. Shout out to Portugal. I mentioned Portugal very randomly in my video. I'm definitely gonna watch that. So thank you to all of our fans in Porto, in Lisbon, in the Azores, wherever you may be in Portugal. Good luck in the World Cup. Heck yeah. All right. Okay, moving on to back to news topics. Thank you AtlasRafe for posting this on the forum. AMD unveils seven nanometer GPU at Computex. Super cool. Let me just get this stuff. If you wanna start, I'm gonna get this stuff in Twitch chat and up on the screen. Okay, also at Computex, big surprise there, right? AMD announced the first seven nanometer GPU launching in the second half of 2018. It's a big deal because Intel hasn't even gotten to 10 yet and AMD is already announcing, hey, we're gonna have a seven nanometer GPU. Oh, this is a GPU. So to be fair to Intel, they make CCs. It's a little different, yeah. Well, what does Nvidia have right now? Do they have, are they on 10 yet? I admittedly have forgotten. Why is my brain hurting? Yeah. I'm pretty sure Twitch has screaming at me for that Intel gaff, by the way, because we're talking about GPUs, but that's okay. See. They've been on 10 for a while. Oh, have they? Okay. Whistle Why am I blanking? I shouldn't be. Yeah. I just love having dead air. Oh, it's great. It's so great. It's, I mean, it's. Oh, no, no, no. Yeah, 16. Yeah, Pascal. 14. So Pascal is what, 14? 16 and 14. 16 and 14, okay. So there you go. So yeah, so they're basically having that. AMD is having that with Vega. So AMD will have Vega on seven nanometers inside of the new Radeon Instinct part. They're claiming 25%, or excuse me, 35% more performance over the previous gen 14 nanometer part. So they're having it is what they're doing. So 14 nanometer is, I remember there was a split and I was trying to think of what number is it split on. But anyways, 14 nanometer is 1030, 1050, 1050, 1050 Ti. So the lower end silicon is 14 and then for the higher end chips are we using 16. Yeah, 16 starts with 1060. Okay, yeah, I see, yeah, 16. So there we go. So these latest offerings are either 14 or 16, depending on what you get. AMD is going down to seven, twice the power efficiency. So, which kind of makes sense, right? Because it's two times the density of their last gen, which was 14. So this now means AMD is ahead of the GPU game in this one area because even Volta and Nvidia's newer gen architecture is at 12 nanometers right now. So, but do note that there actually isn't an industry standard way to measure transistor sizes. So, I think it used to mean a little bit more than it does now. So do take that number with a small grain of salt, but it's still a pretty big deal. Also remember that it's, I believe it's square nanometers. So seven is like considerably smaller than 10. Right. Yeah. Yeah, it's just like how four square inches is a lot smaller than, yeah, so. Yeah, just a thing to remember. There you go. Someone in the Twitch chat reminded me of that. So thank you to whoever that was. So prepare for high wattage power supplies being even dumber, unless you have a water chiller from an aquarium on your computer. So. Yes, yes, of course. Now, okay. Wow, what is that cacophony back there? Loud noises. So this is another really, really cool piece of news in my opinion. This is posted by Shreyas1 on the forum. Gigabyte making fake RAM. It's fake, except it's super cool and you want it to be fake. So I'll explain that in a moment. Do you know about this? I know about it now. So apparently they're selling their AORUS, is that how you pronounce it? AORUS? AORUS? AORUS. AORUS RGB LED memory, which is not surprising. That's sort of their like gamer line of stuff now. So it's going to have all the RGB. So two of the sticks are your run of the mill, eight gig DDR4 memory modules. But the other half of the bundle is two sticks of fake RAM. They're made of the same aluminum housing, and they have the LEDs that can sync up with your actual RAM sticks, but they have none of the memory bits. So if you can afford to populate every single slot on your motherboard with actual RAM, but you don't want it to look like there's big gaps in between your RGB, you can get this instead. You can save some money and have it look like they're all populated until you can afford more actual RAM. Now I don't personally care at all because I've never cared about fully populating slots. I don't think it looks bad, but I'm 100% certain because I know them, that there are people that do care about fully populating all their slots. And RAM is incredibly expensive right now. So the fact that they are able to bridge that gap a little bit, you can fill all the slots, but you don't have to spend ludicrous amounts of money. Well, there's a certain effect you get, because when you have all the slots populated, if the light bars on top are THICC thick enough, then you will have an effect that where it looks like a big block or a big brick instead of like little strips of color. So people don't want that. I don't mind the strips of color thing, but yeah, I just understand how people like that aesthetic. And it still gets you the sticks of RAM that actually have memory on them in this kit that we're talking about here is eight gig DIMMs each. So you're getting 16 total gigs of RAM, which is pretty solid. Yeah, so the modules, the fake modules can still communicate with the other ones, but they just don't have any actual RAM on them. But so do note if you're interested in this, right now you have to buy as a whole kit, but Gigabyte is considering the possibility of just selling the fake stick separately at some point. I think they'll do that based on, can we like not and say we did? So. He has no idea. No. Hey, there we go. They'll probably end up selling them individually if these kits sell well enough. Yeah, it makes sense. But it's probably like a manufacturing worthiness situation. I can see it happening. Cause I'm sure there's plenty of people who have bought RAM they didn't need just so they could populate all their slots. So I'm sure this happened. Again, I know people that have done that. There we go. I even know people that have bought the same looking kit, just lower capacity for the second set. Because they're like, I don't even need more RAM. Yeah. It's like, oh man, okay. And then you get into this whole like catch 22 where even if you don't need more, like, oh, let me just buy like a one gig stick of this thing, but it's higher end RAM that has the already RGB. So you can't. So. Yeah. So this one, moving on, this was posted by SC2 Mitch on the forum, just like every week, dude. Thank you very much for posting. The source of this article is motherboard.vice.com. As many of you have probably heard, GitHub is being purchased by Microsoft. Now GitHub and GitLab are different things. I'm just putting that out here for people that may not know. So Git, for the context of this story, GitLab is not being purchased by Microsoft. GitHub is being purchased by Microsoft. This 13,000 projects ditched GitHub for GitLab Monday morning thing is a little out of date. The current number that we have is, I believe, 150,000 of them have ditched GitHub for GitLab. Now more projects have bailed off of GitHub in that time. These are just the ones that have gone to GitLab specifically. There are other solutions, but the majority of the movers have done that. Now to put to rest a little bit of the freak out from the information that I've been able to see online and some of the stuff that's in this exact article, it seems like most people are bailing because they're making like Xbox emulators. Well, here's- Or like things that Microsoft, that are going against Microsoft specifically. Well, there's, okay, obviously something like an emulator. You can see the problems there with like IP and copyright infringement, but okay, so just one example I can think of that has some pretty recent relevance. If you go on YouTube, shameless plug for Techquickie, we did a recent Techquickie episode on DNS leaks and how they can undermine your privacy and how they can expose your browsing history, even if you're using a VPN. So let's say you're using a VPN that has a DNS leak protection feature on it. So there is a feature in Windows 8 and in Windows 10. It has a really long acronym. I can't exactly remember what it is. SMHNR, I think is what it's called, but it is a feature, and there's a reason I'm doing the quotation fingers, that can apparently even override DNS leak protection and compromise your privacy. Yeah, so there was someone on GitHub that wrote a patch for OpenVPN where you could just download it and it would like take care of that for you. Would Microsoft consider something like that undermining their own software if they don't want people doing that? Because I mean, copyright infringement is one thing, it's super obvious, but what if it's like there's an actual problem with a Microsoft product like Windows that someone is in good faith trying to fix for people, and Microsoft just says no, and people wouldn't know where to look because so many people just kind of automatically go to GitHub and think the stuff is gonna be on there. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting. And also, I forgot to post the YouTube announcement, so rip, and there's like not even that much time left in the show, but I just published it so people will be able to see for me. Watch the last seven minutes for however long, however long we have, I don't know. Anyways, it's, it's, ooh, it's, yeah. People are even thinking projects that could easily be used to harm others, like deepfakes might be a problem, and a lot of those types of projects have bailed already. Okay. Which sucks because deepfakes can also be used to not hurt people. Yeah, just like a power drill. Yeah, pretty much. So like, we'll have to see how Microsoft deals with this. Trying to connect, you are offline. Oh, great. I got it. But yeah, I just, I don't think it's gonna be as nuclear as people think. I suspect Microsoft isn't gonna do a ton different with it than was already being done with GitHub. Hopefully everything doesn't become weird colored squares because I really haven't. Oh, good lord. Really have not enjoyed Microsoft's UI for a long time. It kind of depends. I mean, I think there were fears about that with something like UWP, for example. But at the same time, the desktop experience on Windows 10 is still like largely open in whatever sense you wanna put that word. Garbage. Garbage? I hate the desktop experience on Windows 10. Sorry. It's a personal preference. No, I'm not talking about UI. UI is different than whether the platform is open or closed. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, UI is a totally different story. You can hate the UI all you want to, but... That is a preference thing. I know some people are gonna screech. I just don't. I don't personally like it. Do you wanna do this thing here? Or this thing is better. Either one. Sure, I don't know a ton about it. It is cool. I don't know a ton about it, but let's dive into it and see what we can get. So thank you, Qub3D. Q-U-B-3D. Q-U-B-3D. Cub, cute. Oh, I think it's cube. Oh, of course it's cube. It's just a very tortured spelling of cubed. I failed that one. It is cubed for sure. All right. Cube steak. Forbes is the source article here, and there's been, so once it loads, my internet is not the happiest at the moment, but there's been some leaks of the Pixel 3. Now one interesting thing here is that there's going to be three phones. There's gonna be the standard normal Pixel. There's gonna be the Pixel XL. Those are already expected. Now there's going to be a mid-range phone, and they don't mean size. They don't mean between the normal size Pixel. They're talking like power. Yeah. They mean power and price and stuff like that. What is going on? I don't care about your quote of the day. Load the webpage, please. It's hard to fly without ruffling a few feathers. I'm trying to ruffle your feathers, Forbes. Let me fly, please. Hello? Okay. Oh my goodness. Awesome. All right. Well, the cool part is that there's three phones. There's the affordable Pixel 3, which is the interesting one in this lineup, not because the other ones aren't interesting, but because it's new. So the affordable Pixel 3, which is what we're gonna call it instead of mid-range, just so we don't get confused by the sizing things, it is likely going to be a game changer for mid-range smartphone photography. And that kind of makes sense because a lot of the awesomeness of the Pixel camera is in the software. Then they can put that software on the cheap phone, which is really cool. The 3XL is going to have a notch, how do you feel about this? Yeah. That's happening. So. I'm gonna, we'll have to see, but I'm almost certainly gonna be getting a Pixel 3. Okay. I currently still have my Pixel 1XL, and I like this phone a lot, but it's starting to show the signs of being tired. The battery's starting to kind of, and there's like, it started, you can tell. I can't, I can't anymore. It's still a very good phone. If I wasn't a ridiculous power user of my phone, I wouldn't care that much, but I am a absolute ridiculous power user. Oh, we have a power user. Oh yeah, boy. I'm always on this thing, and I do a lot of stuff on it. So I'm stoked, and I will probably get the XL. Okay. Because I have large hands. I can hide my whole phone. So. Oh, look, a power user with his large hands. Yeah, dude. So the small phones are just a little too small for me. We'll see. Can I, yeah, no, not quite. This is a 6P, so. Yeah, they're pretty similar size. Okay. So I want the XL. That means I have to deal with the notch. Traditionally, I haven't really liked notches, but it might work. If the notch is small enough, which I can't see because forms won't load. I saw some allegedly leaked images of the thing. It does look a fair bit smaller than the iPhone X. The notch does. Which makes sense, right? Because on Android, how it does notifications, it fills them in from the sides, right? But on iPhone, that doesn't happen. All your notifications are just in that little tray. So that would make sense. If it is just a fairly small one, that's cool, I'm down. It also has front-facing speakers, which I can't show you because they won't load. By the way, I don't think this is Forbes' fault. Just in case anyone in the audience is like, what the heck? I was making jokes about not being able to fly because of the Forbes thing, whatever. I think our internet's being super weird. I know the DNS is super weird. Because I had this problem earlier. Okay. So I don't know, that's super cool. I can't show you what the small one looks like. I can't show you what the mid-range one looks like. Apparently, the mid-range phone is gonna be based on Qualcomm's new Snapdragon 710 chipset, which promises performance close to 2017's flagship Snapdragon 835. Yeah, I think that will be cool. Because one big issue that people had with Pixel phones when they started being called Pixel, was that they were a lot more expensive than people wanted. So being able to give a more affordable option is cool. Definitely. Maybe it'll stick, maybe it'll go the way of the iPhone 5C, who knows? Yeah. Yeah. Australian gamers are being blamed for slow internet. Wow. Okay, apparently this was slightly taken out of context. This is from abc.net.au. Maybe this will load. Ah, maybe not. I'm gonna post this in Twitch chat. And if you're watching on YouTube, there are either timestamps posted in the description of this video, or I have noticed many wonderful people also post their own custom timestamps below the video in the comments. Wow, this looks like it's not properly loading, but it's sort of working. So let's show that screen. Why not? I really like how the image they used for this story is a screen cap from Big Bang. Like what? They don't, what the heck? That is them. What are they doing? Is this like a retro edition? I don't watch this show. I don't know. It's always been kind of weird to me. But anyways, moving on. Believe it or not, some of the biggest online games use very little data when you're playing compared to streaming HD video or even high-fidelity audio. So people are slamming back at whoever the heck said this. I don't care, it doesn't matter. Because he's like, gamers are, blah, blah, blah, blah. But apparently within the context that he was saying it, so someone named Moro, I don't know, said it's gamers predominantly on fixed wireless. Apparently what he meant is it's that he's typecasting gamers, not saying that games are the problem. Right, because later on he said that the people who game are also power users. They tend to consume more data just across the board, whether it's video or whether it's Yeah. They're watching Twitch streams, they're watching YouTube, they're streaming audio while they play their game. These are power users of the internet because people asked, he originally said extreme users and then he was asked to clarify on that. So he said it's gamers predominantly on fixed wireless. But I don't think he meant it is video games that are the problem. I think he was saying like, it's gamers, which I also think is not necessarily true because out of all the people that I know that watch ludicrous amounts of streaming video, it's not necessarily gamers. No, I mean, you have people that think, oh, like video games are stupid, but they'll sit there and they'll binge Netflix like eight hours at a time. And that takes more bandwidth. So yeah, that's not the best look for him, at least to people who like know how. Coming home, cracking a bottle of wine and chugging it while binging multiple seasons at a time of your favorite show. Yeah, whatever people who don't game watch. I'm not very up on this hip alcoholic terminology. So sorry if I said that wrong. Yes, like wine. Do they even call it wine anymore? I don't know what I meant. Well, I said cracking a bottle of wine and then I realized you don't do that. You uncork it. You uncork it. You do the thing and then you pull. You crack a bottle of beer. I'm a hip man. I'm in with the boys. Now it's time for you to do the Macarena. I'm hip, I'm with it. Duck, duck, duck, duck, duck, duck, duck, duck, duck, duck. But yeah, I don't know. I think it's just something taken out of context. I don't think it's actually what people are freaking out about. People just like screaming. I think the guy is just saying it's power users. It's people that use the internet a lot. It's this stuff. Yeah. If he actually thinks it's video games, he now for sure knows that it's not because everyone on the planet has told him you're wrong. So I think he gets it now and we can probably Hopefully move on. But I thought it was an interesting story anyways and something to bring up. Australia's internet is actually garbage. And one thing that I am very aggressively against is that apparently they've been considering throttling back data consumption of extreme users during peak periods. That's ridiculous. Australia, just fix your freaking internet. It's not that hard. Everyone else has seemed to figure this out. Might be a cost issue. They are in an unfortunate place for undersea cables. Figure it out. I don't know what else to say. Australia's internet has been garbage for a very long time. Working at Flowplane, it's super expensive to get bandwidth there. I'm trying to serve people on Australia videos and it's hard. It's gotta be a cost issue. How many times have we had people coming on the forum saying, oh, this GPU costs almost twice as much in Australia because reasons. So I imagine it might be similar here. Australia's internet is just garbage. I know quite a few people from Australia and it's really, really expensive and it's really, really bad. And it's a shame because I don't think it needs to be. I understand that there's definitely cost implications but there are countries not that far away that have much better setups. Really expensive and really bad. They're the stadium nachos of the internet. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, Australia. You have the stadium nachos of internet. I like that analogy. And you know what I don't understand? People like that fake cheese sauce that tastes like plastic. A lot of people like that stuff. It's disgusting. Why do you even bother? Yeah, it's so bad. No, just order a hot dog or something. Or do what I did and smuggle in four spicy chickens from Wendy's into a movie. That's a great idea. And trade them for other things. Bartering with Wendy's spicy chicken. I hope no one from Cineplex is watching this. They won't let me back into a movie. Boy, I get it done. Also, organic carbon modules found on Mars. NASA's Mars Rover Curiosity has identified a variety of organic molecules, the carbon-based building blocks of life as we know it in 3.5 billion year old rocks on Mars. This does not give us any evidence of life necessarily, but there's a possibility that the organics are a form of an ancient life source of some kind. We just don't know. Another finding that methane concentrations in Mars atmosphere cycle seasonally. The discovery suggests that the gas is seeping out from underground reservoirs. It is possible that some of the methane was produced by organisms as it is here on Earth. Be very careful that everything in this has possible written all over it. It's not necessarily guaranteed. They did find organic carbon molecules and methane concentrations in Mars' atmosphere do cycle around seasonally. We got that. The rest of it is all hypotheticals and possible. I wonder exactly what organics they found because obviously just because it has a carbon atom and it doesn't mean it came from life. But a lot of people don't know that, which is why we gotta really show home the possible. Methane is an extremely simple molecule. It could form without life around very easily. I was trying to look through the story to see if there were any more deets, but it didn't say. Don't think too many. I think that's honestly about it. The rest of the stuff in the doc is not crazy interesting. There's the Amazon thing. We can go over that real quick, but it doesn't have anything to do with tech, so I don't really know why it's in here. It does, I think it does. The fact that they sold. Well, that is Amazon and yeah, I guess. It's a store. I don't know why we always end up talking about Amazon. The fact that it was online made it a federal crime. Okay, but online shopping is old as heck and Amazon is just taking over the whole planet. They're political level instead of tech news. But whatever, we'll talk about it. Amazon return policy abusers were sentenced to nearly six years in prison. Basically, they bought a whack ton of GoPros and other stuff. So for two years, the Finans, not sure what that means. I'm assuming that's their last name. That's their name, yeah. They're a married couple, yeah. Okay, they ordered over 2,700 electronic items from Amazon, including GoPro digital cameras, Xboxes, smartwatches, tablets, laptops, and then they reported them as damaged and that somehow didn't get flagged automatically. They used a lot of shell accounts and stuff. So they did it from a bunch of different accounts to try to avoid detection. Good job VPNs, I'm assuming. Once Amazon replaced the products, they would sell them to a third person, Denial Glumak. I probably butcher that. Is that a typo? I don't know. I'm assuming it's supposed to be Daniel Glumak, but currently it's D-A-N-I-J-E-L, which is a pretty cool name. Don-Jel. Actually, if that is, I'm sure it's just Daniel, but if that is his name, that name is sick. Don-Jel. Someone should steal that as a screen name. I should get a dog name, but Don-Jel. Don-Jel. In all, Aaron and Leah Finan are said to have made approximately $750,000 running the scam, while Glumak made approximately $500,000. So the couple, they got nearly six years each. The accomplice got two years, 24 months. So I thought this was interesting because, just from a legal perspective, legal corner with John real quick here, they were prosecuted federally, okay? Because it was done across state lines, and the feds are pretty serious about winning cases against people. I think the feds have an over 90% conviction rate when they bring charges against people, and if you go to federal prison, I think the rule is you have to serve 85% of your sentence before you're eligible for parole. So they're not getting out for a little while. Okay. Yeah, so. Apparently this wasn't the only thing that happened. Again, I don't know why Amazon means that we're talking about it, but the Amazon fraud wasn't the only problem. They also bounced checks, they rented cars and failed to pay for them, they sold others stolen high-end goods, and they withheld rent, all of which are actions that were taken into account during the sentencing, none of which mean that it makes sense being on the WAN Show. And on that note. I just realized I'm responsible for having this on here. I'm sorry. I just don't, I just don't, now I feel bad. Anyways, thanks for watching. We'll see you next time. I think it's time for a morale meeting next week. Like we need to have a company-wide dialogue on how we like treat the contributions of our fellow employees. Oh no, and the notes were so good. I think it's high time for this. I'm sorry, no. Oh. I just, we always talk about Amazon stuff, and sometimes they do tech-related things, but not always. Thank you very much Squarespace. Alexa. Thank you very, see, like that makes sense. Thank you very much LTX, so us, for sponsoring the show, and thank you very much FreshBooks for sponsoring the show. FreshBooks. I just, okay, so my, I just, it's not always tech stuff. When they make the stores where you can just walk in and walk out and you just get your stuff, like that's cool. That's tech stuff. Go, yeah. I did a tech week on Amazon, go was good. Yeah, that's pretty cool. I thought it was good, but. They do have a lot of tech news, but it's not just automatically. I don't know. Anyways, I'm sorry John. Bye everyone. I'll see you next time.