 You are now live streaming to Twitch Linus Tech. Click here to open a browser to view the stream. Remember to mute the stream to avoid the audio loop. Good guys Twitch. They must have that there just for us. Yep, because we do that like almost every time. Welcome to the show everyone. Welcome to the show everyone. We have super cool topics. We have a super cool topic. I got it wrong. I was like I thought you were copying me but you did it slightly different. I can't even screw up correctly. And that's the kind of show this is folks. Guys we got a lot of great topics for you. The Fury X is sold out everywhere. Why would that be? I guess we'll find out won't we actually. We're just going to be speculating unless I have some insight. I was going to ping you for that insight. I have the insight. Okay anyways Batman Arkham Knight PC sales have been suspended because BWAH. Because they sprayed silly string at one of the teacher's daughters. Yeah also Disney Band selfie sticks probably also because of silly string. Yeah silly string is for chumps. And me I like silly string too. But Xbox wants to give silly stringers a chance. Or just people. Or people. Or people or ducks. Or gamers. I painted something last night. Your car? No I painted a painting. Oh I saw that. That was actually pretty good. Yeah I painted a painting. Like legitimately I would troll you but it's actually pretty good. That was my painting. It was literally paint by numbers. Oh. Well sort of. Like you had to free form it. You did have to free form it. But like there's instructions. It's like step by step. It's like I made this delicious roast duck. Except that there's someone making roast duck right next to you. So did they paint the exact same painting? Yeah. I think they did. They did. I think they did. I think they did. I think they did. I think they did. I think they did. I think they did. I think they did. I think they did. I think they did. I think they did. So you couldn't trace though? No. You still had some skill then. So I had a hand in it. But yeah it's not like from a mind. Yeah but if it was your...that's like watching a recipe on YouTube and then recreating the recipe. Except that in this case the person who is making the video, you know the YouTube video, actually goes and obtains you like the food that you need and the pot that you need and like the fresh water that you need to clean your brush and a chair to sit in and a bunch of other people in the room also making a duck. I still think it's cool. Well thank you. It doesn't look as good in person. Oh I think that's kind of a thing with that kind of stuff. I guess we should roll the intro. Yeah. No. Okay one of these days we're gonna get this right. It worked last week for the intro but not the outro. Did it? I thought I figured out what the problem was. Well that's because it tricks you. It's a trust experiment. It pulls you in and then it throws you down. It's terrible. Okay well hold on a second. I'm sure there's...it's in the assets folder right? It's like chocolates. You eat a whole bunch of them and your body's like yeah this tastes good. These are good for me. And yesterday was disgusting. But you can't...can you say why you want to eat it? Here we go. Yay! Where are the sponsors? Awesome people? Well yeah. Oh right. Oh sorry sorry. Squarespace! It's iFixit. iFixit! Squarespace and iFixit. Squarespace. Squarespace. I think I'm gonna go for Squarespace. Squarespace. Squarespace. Squarespace. Squarespace. Squarespace. Squarespace. Squarespace. Squarespace. Squarespace. Squarespace and iFixit. Alright guys. So it's time to get this show on the road. What were we starting? Our first one is. R9 FuryX is selling out everywhere. And you already spoiled...I was gonna ask you the question to bring you into the thing, but... Alright. So first let's get the link to the forum up in there. Okay do you have it? You have it? Okay. I'm gonna bring up WCCF Tech, everybody's favorite new site for graphics cards...SOLD OUT! Now here's the thing, sold out can mean a lot of different things. It can mean that there wasn't enough. It can mean that the demand was incredibly high. It can mean that you took a bunch of money and abandoned your values and morals for the money. Sold out can mean a lot of different things. But what sold out means in this case, I believe, and the under headline here, this is interesting, FuryX selling like hotcakes. Have you ever even bought a hotcake? No, so they must not sell that well. I've never even seen a hotcake for sale. Okay, should we straw pull this? How many people have bought a hotcake? Who has bought a hotcake? What is a hotcake? What? See, I don't even know. So they're not marketed very well. Okay, let's straw pull. They should be called the R9 hotcake. We are straw pulling the crap out of this. Hotcakes, yes, all the time. Never heard of them. Well, turnip, maybe hotcakes are turnips. Never heard of them and let's go somewhere in between. So we need to hear from you guys about hotcakes. Well, because I've heard of them, but I never purchased them. But you don't know what they are exactly. That's fair. Which is part of why you like, that's like me saying that I've heard of, you know, clandestine destiny. Yeah. And like, but I don't know what that would be. Right. Exactly. It's a pancake. Wow. I've had a lot of pancakes. Really? Why are they called pancakes? Hotcakes are pancakes? Hotcake noun, a pancake. Why don't you just call it a pancake? Because it's hot. Idiot. But pancakes. No, I'm with you. I'm just, I'm just trolling the crap out of you right now. Cause I'm a 100% on the same page. On the first link, Yahoo answers, what is a hotcake? And if they're selling so well, wait for it. Why have I never seen one? Okay. All right. Anonymous poster. What is your name? You don't even have a profile picture. No. But I'm totally with you. Okay. So 31% of you, yes, all the time with 27% of you having never heard of them, just like us. Is that an Americanism? Maybe. Oh, uh, I don't know. Because everyone that I know, something went wrong. It doesn't know who it is. Damn. Earliest times in America, hotcakes cooked in bear grease or pork lard were popular from earliest times in American. In American. First made of, I'm thinking they mean cornmeal. The middle of something, blah, blah, blah, et cetera, et cetera. So maybe this is an American thing. But then again, pancakes, is that an American thing? I feel like everyone that I know from the States says pancakes. Everyone in the chat is saying American thing. There's some people saying it's an English thing, but almost everybody's saying American thing. Okay. And I've got people saying McDonald's calls them hotcakes, not up here. McDonald's had pancakes. That was like 10 years ago or 15 years ago. But they had them. They called them pancakes. Yeah. So I thought someone was going to come in here and correct us and they're not welcome in this room. Pancakes are not American. Well, we've done some solid research on this. Yeah, obviously. So let's get into the stuff that we actually have any idea what we're talking about here. So WCCF Tech's article says, selling like hotcakes and out of stock at all major retailers on day one. So I have a little bit of special insight. I can't let you guys know who my special informant would happen to be. But what I heard from someone involved in the retailer business is that on launch day, they had literally zero. Yeah. Like not one, not a single one. So it could be selling like hotcakes if McDonald's didn't have any that day because they screwed up their order. Right. Well, but then they wouldn't have screwed up with their order. And I heard a rumor that the total inbound shipments is somewhere in the neighborhood of... You know what? I don't want to say too much. So let's say I don't think they're selling that well. I suspect that in North America, in North America, I suspect, and this is just based on... How do you say things when you don't have them? In North America, I suspect there are less than a thousand, would be my guess. That's a somewhat educated guess. Probably the Fury X doesn't even exist. So there you go. I mean here, here's what I want to know. Let's straw poll this. This should just be straw poll day. Yeah. Straw poll day today. Fury X. The answers are... And I want... Okay. A lot of the time, we just troll you guys. Okay. I'm counting on you this time. I do want real answers this time because... Wrong thing to say to Twitch chat. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. Our viewers, they got our back on this one because this is actually pretty important. It's for everyone's benefit to know what's going on here. So Fury X. The answers are, I have one, I know someone who has one, or other. So you don't have one and you don't know anyone who has one. So we're going to go ahead. We're going to create that straw poll. And there... No, there is no... You're for real right now. There is no troll turnip response because I want to know what's going on. Are they selling like hotcakes or do they not exist? Let's go ahead and fire these results up here. Really interesting. Linus's screen. So interesting. We don't count. Yeah, we don't count. We have one. So reviewers. Because if you've already voted and you sort of... Anyone who didn't pay for it doesn't count. So if you happen to know like Ryan Smith from Anontek, that doesn't count. He didn't buy it. So pretty much it looks like I was barking up the right tree there. You know what? To give us some context for this, I'm going to go ahead. I'm going to create a new straw poll right now called 980TI. I knew where you were going with this, but I was thinking about saying Titan X just because I know that 980TI is going to win. This is going to make it a little bit harder on that team. But if you want like a price point comparison... Because 980TI has been out longer too. It's been out longer. Higher likeliness that someone is going to have it. Okay. All right. Okay. So why hasn't Titan X been out even longer? No. Let's revise. Let's revise the question then. So 980TI, I got one in launch week. I know someone who got one. And other. And other. Okay. And again, we don't count and like reviewers don't count. People that got it for free. Yeah. We want to hear from you guys. We want to know like what's going on here. So line us a screen share. We've got just shy of 95% of you. So with a whopping 34. So a whopping 60 of you either have one or know someone who has one. And since I suspect there's a little bit of dishonesty at least, basically out of the Linus Tech Tips audience, if nobody has these cards, I'm straight up kind of calling, yeah, these actually don't exist. So let's go ahead and let's post that 980TI straw poll now. And I want to see the results from that from you guys. This is going to be really interesting. So okay. So we've got here 15% of you saying they had got one in launch week or they know someone who got one in launch week. So with that said, I know that 980TI was quite supply constrained as well. In fact, continues to be supply constrained. We actually pitched to a major graphics card maker that they send us 10 980TIs, not permanently, so that we could test which ones would turbo boost the most. We talked about this on one show last week. That was your idea. Well, was it my idea? It was your idea. We were talking about it and you were like, what if we got like 10? And I was like, okay, because I was talking about like two. Oh, okay. Well, it was a group idea. Okay, not the point. Anyway, the point is, they basically went, no, we don't have enough to even lend them to you for a week. And I was like, well, what if you lent them to me and like you give me NCIX's allocation and then I hand deliver them to NCIX. So they're going like they're going straight to the retailer. We don't have any bro. So when you compare that to our nine theory X, which is a little weird too, because the balance is off if you look at the two charts on average, the exact same amount basically having one and knowing someone who has one for fury X and then almost twice as much, which is expected someone knowing someone who has one compared to having one for nine ATI. Right. So that means that the fury X one probably is just full of trolls who are just picking anything. Well, the 90 I wouldn't probably has a lot of trolls to write, but that, but that split actually makes a lot more sense on the 90 ATI one, having a lot more people knowing someone who has one, especially with the percentage of people that are watching the WAN show, probably having a very high percentage of people that are on the forum. Right. They very likely know someone who owns one of those cards. So that's very interesting. Now I have to run for a minute because speaking of the fury X, I think I might've left it in my car. So you're on your own for the next topic. Okay. Well, knowing that Linus leaves his car unlocked, if someone can get to the outside of the Linus tech tips headquarters before Linus can, you can get a fury X for free. It's not really free. It's stealing, but you know, anyways, in other news, we have more AMD stuff, which I'm sure Linus will want to weigh in on AMD says Granada pro and XT are not rebrands of Hawaii. And they're a little bit, right? I was on the call with AMD while they're talking about this. And they were like, no, we spent a year working on these things. We've improved stuff. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I will talk about what they've done. They've increased memory clock from 1250 megahertz to 1500 megahertz on both 390 and 390 X. They've increased memory bandwidth from 320 gigabytes per second to 384 gigabytes per second. And there's an eight gigabyte frame buffer on all their cars instead of a four. So there isn't like the OC version, eight gigabyte and nano C version four gigabytes set up. They did a complete rewrite of the GPUs power management micro architecture so that in worst case scenarios, they're kind of the same in terms of power. And in typical gaming load, the 300 series 390 and 390 X will draw less power than a 290 X and perform a little bit better than the 290 X. Cool. Is this our new one? Yeah, it was actually, it wasn't even in my car. It was in the trailer behind my car. Oh my God. Yeah. I didn't see it because it was under something, which is probably why no one else saw it. So this is our new Fury X, which is really funny because I was at NCIX today shooting NCIX tech tips and they were like, you have two? We didn't even get one. And I was like, no, no, we only have two because our first one was DOA. And they're like, yeah, but we didn't even get one. It's like, how did you get, how'd you get two? I'm like, well, when we said it was dead, they sent us a new one. And I think our performance after seeing everyone else's reviews, I think our performance on the first one might actually be fine. It's just artifacting all over the place. Right. Yeah. Cool. Which isn't like, we can't report that because. Yeah, exactly. Like we're not going to report those numbers, but we, we straight up were like, okay, it's not performing as well as like, you know, yeah. And so we thought the reason for that was that it was artifacting. We didn't think the reason for that was that it just didn't perform as well as, uh, yeah. So what I'm talking about is, uh, the rebrand stuff possibly not being as rebrandy as people might've thought, blah, blah, blah. Have you read about that at all? I have. Is that one of our news topics today? Cause it's so we should jump right into it. Oh, that's what we're doing right now. So my problem with the way that AMD is spinning this and spin is really the right word here is that it's all about presentation. Intel did Haswell refresh. They did a 4790K, which was basically a 4770K with a clock speed bump and change thermal interface material and a refinement of the manufacturing process. But they were straight up about it and they didn't increase the first invention. Exactly. They didn't call it 5,000 series. Yeah. Yeah. That was my main point. This is a 300 series card. If it was like the 290 something, although that gets weird cause they've already used some of those numbers and yeah. And like here's the other issue. Like what's the code name for it? It's cause they changed it from Hawaii to something else. Like they actually gave it a new code name. Granada Pro? Yeah, Granada. So they changed it from Hawaii to Granada. Whereas Intel, even their internal code name is Haswell refresh cause that's what it is. In fact, it's even sort of unusual for Intel to do something like that. And the only reason they did that was because they changed the thermal interface material. That was a huge part of the reason for that. Otherwise, they could have just called it 4790K and it would have just been a higher speed bin. In fact, that's the way it used to work in the past. If you guys remember back to the like the Pentium 4 days, you'd get an architecture, whether it's Willamette or Northwood or Northwood B, Northwood C, like they used to revise them like that. And then you'd get like, okay, you know, it's a 3.0 gigahertz Northwood C and that would be the flagship. And then three months down the line or six months down the line, they'd launched the 3.2 gigahertz Northwood C. They would call it a different thing. You don't have to call it a completely different thing. It's just like, oh yeah, it's a speed bump. That's what it is. And we can recognize that it's better. That's fine. That's cool. But it's not like a 390X versus a 290X to like show what potential improvements there could be, probably mainly power, but whatever. And but, but like, don't call it, don't make a layman think that it's a jump. I think that's the biggest problem because nobody in our audience is going to be fooled. It's going to think that a 390X is a big upgrade over a 290X. Because there's threads all over the forum and stuff. But people are trying to be like, oh yeah, you should get into PC gaming. It's really not that hard to build a computer, all this kind of stuff. It's super easy. Just pick some parts. And like, if you buy within the right part price categories, it's probably going to be fine. And someone's going to go to the store and buy a 390X and be like, yeah, I'm going to rock all those dudes with a 290X. Doesn't want to do a whole bunch of research. And that's fine. You shouldn't have to. Yeah. A higher number should be better. Yeah. And when it sounds a little, and you know what? But the thing, but okay, the thing about all of this though, is that I don't want to ride AMD too hard about it. Because it's super crappy. It's a crappy thing to do. There's much worse stuff. But Nvidia has done it too. It's not like, it's not like. It happens all the time. Yes. Especially on the low end. And you see the thing about Nvidia is they're kind of like, they're savvy enough to not try to pull the wool over the eyes of the enthusiast. Like Nvidia is going to go, okay, yeah, we know we're re-releasing the 680. So we're just, they're going to call it 770. We're going to, we're going to knock it down a peg at the very least when we re-brand that. Yeah. At least there's that. Because this is a 290X and a 390X. But when it comes to the general, the general consumer oriented cards, it's not like Nvidia hasn't done that with, I believe the 300 series. Many of you won't even know there was a 300 series because it was an OEM only SKUs, was a straight rebrand of 200 series low end cards, straight rebrand. They changed it from a two to a three. Maybe that's what made AMD think it was okay. And it's not like Nvidia hasn't milked a micro architecture before. I mean, shoot, I can't remember what 8800GT, G92. G92 Nvidia milked the crap out of that thing. That was the 8800GTX or GT. Wasn't they literally like sticker pull and re-sticker cards? Yeah. The 9800GTX plus or something became the GTS250. And so the 8800GT somehow turned into a 9800GTX, which turned into a 9800GTX plus, which I think had more RAM or something. So it's pretty much what we're looking at here. At least they called it a plus instead of like something, you know, higher number. Oh wait, except when they rebranded it GTS250. So let's not pretend that AMD is the only one doing it. It's just crappy no matter who does it. And AMD has done it most recently. So they're the ones that we're going to pull down our pants and take a big turd on for doing it this time. It's not the worst thing in the world, but it's not good. And the fact that they're sticking to their guns about this is like, it's not a rebrand because it has- We worked on it for a year with one person part time one day a week. I shouldn't say that. No, and that's not fair. Be nice. And like, like I get it. Like 290X 8 gig was actually limited in terms of which board partners were making them, not because AMD doesn't want to sell you a higher ESP card, but because yields were probably very limited either because they were saving cores for this or because they really did have to retool things fairly significantly in order to make it all happen. And the power stuff is legitimately cool and may have taken a lot of work, but there's a lot of people speculating and I kind of think they might be right that the memory being faster is just because they put better memory on it. Like that's why I said it didn't really take any time. The power stuff could be a lot more difficult. Alright speaking of things that are a lot more difficult. Oh god. Here I'll go ahead, I'll post this. You got it? Do you want to lead us off on this one? Okay, so- Arkham Gate! Don't screw with PC Master Race. I guess. Nightgate! PC Master Race got real mad and everyone that owns a computer and wanted to play Batman got really mad because Batman Arkham Knight was frame rate capped at 30 FPS. Did you see the funny photo where it was like a speed limit sign in the background that said 30? Did you see that? I didn't see that. That was hilarious. I don't know if we're gonna be able to find it, but I can try. Maybe someone will post it on Twitch chat. Someone was like, did they warn us and it was like a Batman teaser photo and he's coming towards the camera in the background there's a speed limit 30 sign. Sorry, I just thought it was hilarious. So people were demanding refunds like crazy. I think a lot of people did get refunds through Steam and then Steam actually suspended sales of the game or I don't know if it was actually Steam or Warner Brothers. Warner Brothers suspended sales of the game. Steam ratings were sitting around 35% positive. Holy crap. That's terrible. Anyways, that hurts. Yeah. So that's basically it to be completely honest. Apparently it was able to be unlocked by editing an I&I file. But like why? Yeah. Why? Like I get it. I like having the I&I file. I had to use an I&I file yesterday because I was trying to launch Crysis 3 and I had copied over a save game and the last thing I had used it on... But the I&I file should be there in like last case, like last resort or like if you're 80 mods deep in Skyrim and you're like I broke something but I can fix it. Exactly. So in this situation the last computer I had used it on was the iMac Retina. So it was a 5K display. So like when I opened the game it was like I was seeing like the corner of it on a 1080p display. So I couldn't actually navigate to the menu to change my settings and I was like okay, this is an unusual situation that pretty much nobody would ever find themselves in. Yeah. Okay, I'll break out the I&I file. To just have to need the I&I file in order to unlock the game from 30 FPS is just totally unacceptable and the thing that I don't get is how do they not learn? Check your hands. How is it possible that they cannot learn? Oh yeah, here it is. This is awesome. This is from the PC Master Race subreddit. Have you seen this? Yeah, in the background there's a 30 FPS, like not 30 FPS but it's a 30 miles an hour I guess. FPS lock warning. I love the MS Paint skills here. Is that what that is? The fact that they can look at Assassin's Creed Unity and look at Watch Dogs and look at these titles where developers are being crucified for these completely unnecessary limitations. If it works above 30 FPS, why isn't that the default? And I guess saying it works is sort of generous because Warner Brothers came out and said that AMD owners would experience performance issues. The most frustrating thing about this is that whether Nvidia is being completely upfront or not, whether they are or not, if Nvidia is to be believed, GameWorks doesn't hurt anyone else's performance, it's just extra eye candy that happens to run great on Nvidia because they designed it and basically handed it to the game developer to put inside the game. For a developer to come out and just say, yeah, it's going to work kind of crap on AMD cards, by the way this is a GameWorks title, I would love to know what's going on in Nvidia's sort of minds when they're sitting there going, okay, so we're going to be getting a bunch of bad PR over something that in theory is just the developer and AMD not getting their crap sorted out. Just because we have GameWorks in theory. And you know what? I haven't and I will probably never get a full understanding of what exactly goes on behind the scenes with GameWorks. But what I do know, and this was a really good point from Tom Peterson about, what was it, Witcher 3 I think, where when it came out, yeah, Witcher 3 came out and AMD performance wasn't very good and a lot of it was getting blamed on GameWorks and then AMD had a fixed driver, I think it was one or two weeks, and so Tom Peterson kind of went, well, hold on a second, so they managed to fix it in like two weeks, so where was that development effort two weeks before the launch? It seems to me there's no problem here. And I kind of went, yeah, if they can fix this in like two weeks, what's the problem here exactly? There's questions as to whether it was fully released to them and stuff. Yep, so there's questions about that. Because if they had two days before the launch or if they've actually been working on it for a month and they had two weeks before and two weeks after or whatever. But AMD also does a lot of crying about how GameWorks is a black box and impossible to optimize for. And it turns out that two weeks after a launch, they can optimize for it just fine. That's true. So anyway, so Warner Brothers already came out and said, yeah, well, AMD users, peace, bro. And then performance is having some issues on Nvidia GPUs as well. So there you go. Steam ratings were sitting at 35% positive, like you said, and Warner Brothers games apparently listened. And this is kind of funny. Some of the textures, some effects like ambient occlusion and rain that the Nvidia GameWorks video showed off are actually completely missing on the PC, but present on the PlayStation 4. I noticed that too. Well, I didn't notice it. PC Master Race subreddit told me. Those guys, they're like the guardians of like... Have you seen the rating system? This should have been in this topic. They're making a PC Master... I'll try to find it. Sure. This is like official rating system and they have a chart. So like if your game only runs at 1080p, you can't get above a certain rating. If your game doesn't have mods, I think you can't get the glorious rating. But you can get like righteous if you have a whole bunch of stuff, but like not technically everything. And like there's this whole crazy, it's cool. All right. Well, in the meantime, I'll do a really quick topic here. So we talked about this last week and the... I was just going to say, I could be wrong, but I think it was actually Corsair George that made that rating system. Oh, really? Really? It was like his username is like Ballistic George or something and it has a Corsair tag beside the username. So yeah. Okay. Well, in the meantime here, I'll do the fallout preorder. Here we go. What? Sorry. Magnetic. Okay. I don't know. Anyway, in the meantime, let me do this. Bethesda, who sent, oh crap, what was it? 11.2 pounds of bottle caps to Bethesda to get a copy of Fallout 4, which actually ended up costing in shipping about half as much as just a preorder the game would have cost. And it turns out that they were very careful about the wording because I guarantee you, Bethesda does straight up not want 10,000 people shipping them 10 pounds of bottle caps. Every person that works at a bottling place would be able to get so many so fast. So they very carefully said, so he sent 2,240 caps. Because he was the first person to do this, he would be receiving a copy of the game in November. So it was Corsair George. Was it? Yeah. This is Ballistic George official Corsair Ballistic George tag. And this is the one I was looking for. I had no idea it was him. Oh, send me the link. Send me the link. Let's move on to the Corsair George rating system. Oh, apparently it's a George from Corsair, not the George from Corsair. It's Ballistic George. So it's not our George Macris. It is a different George. See they have the same problem as us. They do. Where we have too many Knicks. We call ours different things. Well, they call them Ballistic George. So that's like a... But then they call the other one just George. Right. So we have Nick and then we have Berkel Nick. But we just call him Berkel. Ballistic Berkel. Just start calling him Ballistic Nick. Or just BB for short. Hey BB. Okay, so let's go ahead and pull this up. So PCMRG. So Peasantry. This port fails to deliver a quality that is even comparable to consoles. Frame rate may be capped at 30 FPS. May not support 1080p or higher. Optimized poorly. Mod support none. Mods may result in online bans. Servers. Possibly weak unreliable servers. And possible day one DLC with glitches. So it goes all the way up to righteous. This port exceeds the standards set by its console counterparts but does not reach the full glory and potential of PC gaming. So 60 FPS capped. Potentially limitless. 1080p may include multi-monitor support. And then glorious basically means this is as far as it goes. There's no limit to frame rate. 4K or beyond resolution. Gloriously optimized. Complete support for mods. Strong servers with dedicated or custom servers available. No day one DLC or DLC is free. So there you go. With nearly no glitches. With nearly no glitches. So all the people that rated Skyrim as glorious are wrong. There's so many glitches in that game. There's so many glitches in that game. Did you just speak out against the Elder Scrolls? No I'm just saying. No I don't. No? Actually. Did you just say no? Actually. Did you just say no? Hold on. I've spoken out against Elder Scrolls Online. Did you just speak out against Elder Scrolls single player? Well. Your favorite games of all time? I don't necessarily mind the glitches but there are glitches. I don't necessarily mind that. Spoken like a true fanboy. The glitches give it character. There's certain games where glitchy crap is fine. Like I was playing Super Mario Bros. the other day. I was playing Super Mario Bros. the other day and I used my cape and it completely glitched out and I just laughed and kept playing. Some of them are okay if they're like funny. If your game crashes to desktop like Skyrim does a lot it's not actually funny and it's really dumb. Or if your mouse clicks through the screen like a lot of Bethesda games do that's not funny. It doesn't keep going as long as... There's more glitches. He's good. There's more. The giant will hit you and you'll just go like infinitely upwards. You can fall through the floor. Your horse can just like fly at certain times or go completely vertical at mountains. Okay. Yeah. I'm going to run out here actually but I'm sure there's more. I'm sure the Twitch chat can tell me more. I just find it funny that there's an official PC Master Race rating system that takes one of the PC Master Race's favorite games and doesn't put it at the highest tier. Dun dun dun. That being said, due to the full mod support you can fix a lot of those glitches. So that's where the glory comes in. So does it count? Because there's full mod support. Oh my god. You're coming full... I knew if I let you talk about this long enough you were going to come full circle. I don't know. But does it? I'm asking you guys. Should we straw pull this? Should we straw pull this? Sure. Okay. Does the ability to fix a glitch through a mod rectify the problem? Fixing glitches through... Makes it okay? What? What is that? Look at this ad on straw pull. It just popped up while I was creating my straw pull. Wow. You know what's funny? We actually have a Fastest Possible episode coming on ad block very soon. Did I tell you that? No. That's a joke in the fire. I guess everyone watching already knows what it is anyways. Yes and no. Well, I mean the thing about Fastest Possible is it's very search optimized. If you search for a topic that there's a Fastest Possible episode for, I guarantee you it's going to be right up there in the search results. It's designed for that. That's what that whole channel is. Quick searchable stuff. We want someone who's in a store just trying to figure something out really quickly to be able to actually figure it out really quickly. Yeah. They're like, what is this OLED thing? There should be a video. Why is this random big box store employee telling me this is better and just keeps on saying but it's better or not actually depending on it? Because it has more technology. Because it has more technology inside. All right. So there's a straw pull. Fixing glitches through mods. Makes it okay or doesn't make it okay? And remember, this is very much a glory of the PC master race thing. Okay. Yeah, because I'm honestly just wondering how Skyrim actually fits in their tiering system because it's weird. So we've got 46% of you saying it doesn't make it okay with 33% of you saying it makes it okay and 21% of you on the turnip bandwagon. We should do a turnip shirt. I'd wear that. I would definitely wear that. Vote for turnip and then we should just have a turnip in a box. It should look like the vote for Pedro shirt. We should do a turnip shirt. I should do a straw pull for that. There you go. The most straw pulls. Should we do a vote for a turnip? Now this is a really, this is an important straw pull. Someone in Twitch chat was like, ignore the actual question, vote for turnip. Oh, awesome. All right. Here we go, here we go, here we go. Should we do a vote for turnip shirt? I mean, I don't even know if this is... Did you put turnip in? Yeah. I was wondering about that. I was like, this one has to have the turnip one. So troll, bro. I'm voting for turnip. I'm going to vote for turnip too, darn it. So we've got a whopping 5% of you that say there should not be a vote for turnip shirt who also are not voting for turnip. Flashing gang signs, yo. Don't pull a neck muscle. So this guy, okay, here, let's do a quick, let's do a quick... We got a quick promo spot. Come on. Okay, Burkle's going to join us for a minute here. Why is that box wet? Whoa. What? Do we have a leak? What the hell? Ew. I feel like I should have just said nothing. Look at that. I don't know if I can fit on this couch with this. Ew, what's back here? Oh, just mold. Well, moving. Okay, so upcoming channel Superfun, for those of you who are not subscribed to channel Superfun, what did we do today? Oh, we went golfing. I thought you were talking... I'm editing the other one, which I'm thinking about right now. Oh, my. What I'm doing today is editing the other one prior to that one. So you guys, I'm giving you guys an assignment. We have two channel Superfun videos coming up that are going to be redonkulous. If you know anyone who you think would enjoy channel Superfun, and if you're not subscribed already, get over there, get subscribed. Because the one we did this morning, we played golf, we played pitch and putt, but we used equipment that we got at the dollar store. And that's all I need to say about that. I can't believe we made it through. And for the one from yesterday... Do you want to... Do you want to... Yeah, I think you should spoil it. Oh, well, the whole explanation? Yeah, yeah. Well, not the whole explanation, but just the... All I can say is what I'm editing today is just basically disgusting footage, slow-mo footage of Linus and Nick eating Jell-O till their stomachs are at capacity. And it's just, it's painful to watch. I'm having a hard time getting through it because I want to throw up now and I'm probably never going to eat Jell-O again. So if you guys liked Jell-O, maybe never watch it. Just forget it ever happened. Great sales pitch. Send it to your friends though. Yeah, yeah. Because that's what they're usually doing. Yeah, because I mean, Jell-O is not that great for you anyway. So if you're trying to help someone get over their Jell-O addiction, we have a Jell-O addiction therapy video coming for you guys. Follow the hotline, we'll give you Linus' cell number. No, that might not work. Watching people eat copious amounts of Jell-O is probably not going to help. That's like saying, yeah, if you have someone who's addicted to alcohol, we'll send you a video of people drinking insane amounts of alcohol. What if it was a video... Well, okay, hold on a second. Because some anti... Because some anti-smoking or anti-drug or... Shows people smoking. Yeah, yeah. Like it'll show the footage from above the spinning blades of the fan and there's the baby in the crib and there's all this smoke in the air. It's just like, that's what our Jell-O video is. If you eat Jell-O, you could be like this guy. You could have a Jell-O overdose and that would not be good. Jell-O overdose. I think that's my signal to leave. Bye. Oh my God. That was fantastic. All right. What's our next topic? What topic are we on? Have we even done any topics? We were talking about Batman. Okay, so let's talk Taylor Swift for a minute here. So this was posted by It's Me Fur Kwan on the forum, our original article here. I just want to shake it off. You just want to shake it off? Yeah, you're really far over. No, but like this corner is like this pillow is wet. That's your pillow though. That's your wetness. No, I know, but it was wet before I got in here. That's gross. All right. So Taylor Swift calls Apple Music free trial, shocking, disappointing in open letter. And I'm going to say right now, we've sort of said that we don't think Taylor Swift has sort of, we don't think she has a firm understanding of what exactly it is that's going on. We've said that before. Fappening when I think she and some other people were speaking out about it. She also said some other really stupid thing. I can't remember what it was. I don't really pay attention to that stuff. Oh right. Yeah. She pulled all her music from Spotify or whatever because music shouldn't be ad supported or something like that. And anyway, the point is this time I think she's a hundred percent right. And there's one reason for this, that a lot of the people who are just kind of hating on Swift for all of this are missing. And that was that Apple was offering a three month free trial. She's really good at music. Thank you. I just wanted to defend her somehow. Why do you even? She just gets hammered. I got to support the other side. Okay. So I'm saying she was right. She has exceptional musical talent. Do you even listen to Taylor Swift? She's a good person. Do you even listen to Taylor Swift? No, but I do. Lots of people do. Right. So why would you even? I was listening to the Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 soundtrack today. I'm not a musical authority. It was awesome. It was so cool. So the part that people are missing in Taylor's letter, whether it's sincere or not, that she says, it's not about me. You know, I can make it back in concert tickets or whatever else. It's about the little artists that maybe can't afford to go three months giving away their music for free is the fact that Apple, a company with literally tens of billions of dollars in the bank, was simply giving away the music to people for free during the trial and literally not paying the artists for the plays. They were just giving it away. And I guess, hey, we just won't pay you. They won't pay. Everything's good, right? Yeah, it's great. So what was it? Like a day after Swift's letter, Apple promptly went, oh, yep, okay. Looks like we weren't going to get away with that. Never mind then. In much more eloquent words and went ahead and pulled it. I think that's great. I think that calling out Apple on stuff like this makes a ton of sense. With that said, I really, I don't, some of some Brandon travels in some... She's not wrong. She's not wrong at all. She's 100% right. Brandon travels in some more photography-y circles in terms of where he gets his news from and there are some folks pointing out that, well, you know, there's, you know, Taylor's not exactly always the most progressive either. Apparently photographers who pay for the rights to photograph at her concerts, each image can only be used for editorial purposes once. So they can't actually remonetize a single image. Not only that, but they are not allowed to use the images in their own portfolios, which to me is just kind of like, if you're going to be all about sort of, you know, digital rights and creator rights, I mean, you should probably have a bit more of a progressive policy for the people who are working for essentially promoting you. Come on, let's be honest about all this. So yeah, that's, and oh, that's in... Yeah, so an industry photographer released an open letter to Swift outlining this. So they're forced to sign off the rights to their photos in perpetuity to artists while only maintaining the ability to publish them and be paid for them once. Stuff like this does exist in many industries. It's just interesting to see, you know, these open letters flying around back and forth. It's a very different scenario. It is a different scenario. Like extremely different scenario. But if you paid for the rights to be there, and it's not cheap, if you paid for the rights to be there and photograph it, should you, I mean, the portfolio is one that blows me away. The way that, and like I agree with the photographer people, but I'm trying to make an interesting conversation. The way that she is protesting this is by taking her music away. So if you want to protest that, don't go take the photos. That's a potential argument. I agree with the photo guys. I'm just saying that. Yep. So you could try to protest this by just having none of your dudes go to take photos. But the thing is, other people are going to do that because it's Taylor Swift. Yep. I don't know. Oh well. All right. So what do we got next? Disney theme parks ban selfie stick. The original poster was good bites. And the original article here is from The Verge. You got this, you got this link here. All right. Let's go ahead and whip this link up. Selfie sticks are no longer welcome at Disney theme parks says The Verge's headline. After doing its best to accommodate selfie sticks, Disney bans them. So I think the first question here is why hasn't everyone banned selfie sticks? Everyone. Cities. Everyone ever. Municipalities. Governments. Countries. Yeah. Why haven't countries banned selfie sticks? They're obviously hazardous. I got one for free. I didn't buy it. I got one for free. Someone gave it to me. I got one too. I tried to plug it into my phone to use it and it just changes the volume. Or so it zooms. I'm like, could work. Yay. What? So yeah, that didn't get much use. You know what's really funny? I have used my selfie stick. But you're talking against what? I have used my selfie stick. However, what I used it for was GoPro footage. Okay. That kind of makes sense. Is GoPro footage of yourself still a selfie? If it's on a GoPro? Well, is a video... It was for a video I was making. Is a video a selfie? It's drop of day, right? I think for a video to be selfie, it would have to be one of those ones where someone's pivoting with it, which you could do with the selfie stick. And then your face stays in the same part of the frame all the time. You know those kind of shots? So then it could be a video selfie. I think so. I don't know. Okay. Well, you know what? What if we just Google selfie? The Twitch chat is going to resolve the crap out of this for us. The Twitch chat knows more than... Okay. You guys are just all voting for turnip now. Turnip! Yeah. Oh, for crying out loud. We're not going to get a straight answer out of you guys for the rest of the show, are we? No, no, no, no. Turnip is a straight answer. Turnip is a straight answer. We've got only 16% of you saying yes, a video is still a selfie. So I guess while I have used my selfie stick, I haven't technically, according to 85% of our audience, used it to take a selfie. You count the turnip ones as no. Yeah, that's how I'm counting them. Turnip's a wild card, man. You can just decide what turnip counts as? Yes. So visitors who carry one, they'll be enforcing this at the gate, will have two choices. Leave it at the entrance and pick it up on your way out, or don't bring it to begin with. Those aren't choices. They have one choice. It goes into effect at both Disney World and Disneyland on Tuesday and expands to Hong Kong and Paris on July the 1st. So they're spreading the word through announcements at their hotels and audio messages in the parking lots. They initially tried to accommodate them by forbidding them on rides, but allowing them elsewhere on park grounds. Plus people snuck them in. People continued to take them on rides, which is like a whole other level of stupid. It's like you have a selfie stick. That's dumb. You use your selfie stick to take selfies of yourself. That's like super lame. You endanger the lives of other people with your stupid selfie stick. Now you need like, you need to sit down. And you're potentially ruining some kids day. You need to sit down and get a stern talking to. So yeah, this week a roller coaster at Disneyland was put out of commission for an hour because of a guest using a selfie stick at the ride's highest point. So some museums and the Cannes Film Festival have already banned the accessory. Progressive Disney. And honestly, they're kind of annoying. I went hiking not that long ago in Taiwan. And people just, I know, but I get it. But people who didn't have a selfie stick. Yeah, I know. But people take up so much more space when they're doing it. And you're like, you're trying to be courteous and all this kind of stuff. And when you see like the family that pulls someone aside and tries to get the photo taken, like sure. But when it's someone like every five feet, like with a freaking selfie stick, God, you're taking up so much space. The trail is really, really small already. Like a lot of the trail is literally too short for me. Like there's only if I stuck my arms out, it's going to be over the cliff. Like, and then they're taking selfies. You can't walk past them. Ridiculous. Apparently Coke's giving them away in the UK. Oh, that's a shame. All right. So let's, oh, we should do sponsors. Yeah. So our sponsors today. Squarespace. Squarespace. You know what's really weird? What? I did a Squarespace spot today on NCIX Tech Tips. Yeah. That is weird. Yeah. They have Squarespace as a sponsor and I was hosting the video and I was like, this is weird. So visit squarespace.com and use offer code, not Linus. Use some other offer code. This time. Huh? That's weird. No, no, no, but I'm on Wensho now. So today use offer code Linus to save 10%. If you want to build yourself a beautiful functional website for your blog, your store, your, oh, we have something really, we're doing something really exciting with Squarespace for an upcoming show. My mom made a website on Squarespace and it actually looks pretty okay. Can I look at it? Yeah, we can show it. Okay. Did you help her? No, I'm going to, but I have not yet. Is it on their Twitter? Give me a sec. Do do do. Please have a link to your website. Why is it so zoomed in? What's going on? Oh my God. My laptop sucks. It's this though. Look for that. Okay. Okay. I got this. But no spaces. Come on mom. Okay. So there we go. Squarespace site for Cali bags. Have I been duped into promoting your mom's thing? Boom! Wrecked! Did I just get played that hard? I didn't actually play that hard. I didn't actually play that hard. Wow. All right. So basically, there's an about page. You can like look at some stuff on here. So she did all of this. So she did all of this. Okay. So let me tell you. I didn't help her at all. She was having trouble with another hosting service that I'm not going to bring up. Oh, that's not her. Oh, so that's a dead link. I'll have to help her with that. Okay. So she does need some help. Oh dear. What's going on? That's not good. It's cool, Mom. We'll figure it out. It just, whoa, that just happened. What? I think the everybody went to and it brought it down. But maybe she's not on Squarespace yet. Is she not on it yet? She told me she, I thought she was. Way to go, Luke. Well, that's why the website went down. You know what's really funny? Actually, okay. Well, I don't know how, I don't know how Squarespace is going to feel about us basically showing up one of their competitors on a sponsor spot. I seriously thought she was already, because she told me she was going to go on Squarespace. They're a lot more professional than like calling out a competitor for like straight up getting taken down when people go to the site. Oh dear. But let's just, let's just talk about the benefits of Squarespace. There's another Squarespace website, linusmediagroup.com. Yeah. You know what? Let's just talk about the benefits of Squarespace and leave it at that. So what's great about Squarespace is they have scalable hosting. And what happens is, and we've experienced this many times in the past, when a bunch of people flood to the beautifully created website, that's also very functional. At the same time, Squarespace is able to handle that load without any difficulty. So you're going to want to, so they've got a bunch of great templates you can choose from. I really don't know how I'm going to put this one on the fire. So let's say if you guys are building a website, help your mother, Luke. I told her I'd help her and she should go to Squarespace. Visit squarespace.com and use offer code LINUS so your site doesn't crash when we call it out on the WAN show. No. You've let everyone down today. You've let down your mother. You've let down me. You've let down the viewers. No. I should have double checked, but I was pretty sure. Alright, so second sponsor. Also, iFixit. This spot cannot possibly go any worse than the last one. iFixit.com is where to go if you need help taking apart your devices and repairing them or upgrading them or whatever the case may be. And their flagship product, you guys, is the iFixit Tech Toolkit, which is freaking awesome. Luke and I both have them. We love them. How often do you use yours? I used it yesterday. Good. Are you sure you didn't use something from iFixit's competitor yesterday? Would you like to pull it out and show the audience? I could go get it. No, it's okay. So the point is the ProTech Toolkit has a 54-bit driver kit with specialty and security bits. It's got like pry tools. It's got a bunch of tweezers. It's got a magnet for pulling crap out of places. It's got an ESD wrist strap. It's basically freaking awesome. We love them. And if you use offer code WEN, you can save $10 off a purchase of 50 or more, which means you can get the ProTech Toolkit for 55 bucks plus shipping. Brandon used it to take apart the Fury X. Yep. Here we go. What are you trying to do to me? I'm sorry, man. Ah, I didn't know. Here's our iFixit kit. That's Luke's iFixit kit. It is. You can tell. We like we like marked our territory on our iFixit kits because like the thing that's great about the Tech Toolkit is that it has all these little pieces. So if someone else borrows your Tech Toolkit and they lose your piece. All my pieces are still here? Yeah. Are they? Are you missing one? No. Oh, okay. Never mind. Did you think I was? I was missing one in mine for a little bit. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. I dropped one of them in a shipping box that I shipped out the day after I realized. I wonder if I dropped it in that shipping box. I was missing my magnet. The magnet is like super handy. It's just a bit for the screwdriver that takes out the magnet. Did someone did you get it back? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I dropped it in a shipping box and right before I packed it up, I was like, oh, maybe I dropped it in there. I thought you were saying like you realized it the day after. Yeah, no, I got it. I got it. So I'm sorry. I fix it. Offer code when and that offer code changes all the time, you guys. So don't sit on your butt and think that you can use the offer code later necessarily if you want one of them. It's good for 14 days. So get on that and save your 10 bucks. So Nick is going to get like a heart attack or like some other kind of crippling, crippling injury. Heart attack. Check your check the last email I just sent to you. Oh, what? Oh, geez. Do I even want to know? Yeah. OK. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Do I have to? No. What? I don't think so. Last email I just sent you. You sent me an email? Yeah. Oh, oh, oh, oh, no way. Those look like the book from. All right. OK. OK, so I think it's going to be the last straw poll of the day. And I can trust you guys. I can trust you guys on this trouble. We have done no tech news today. Yeah, we did. We have done like four stories done a low amount of tech news today. What is this show even? I don't know. Where's Joe? Every week, Fridays, 4 p.m. PST 430 p.m. PST and not always. PST could be PDT. Yeah, just PT. Yeah, Pacific. Part time. Part time. You're going to be part time at this rate. No. You've you've made your. I'm just going to slash your pay. My my hour availability will be like the availability of Fury Exes. Oh, dang. OK, so I'm going to show you guys option one and option two for vote for turnip shirts. And I'm going to download these so I don't show you guys all my emails. Who did this anyway? Oh, you did it. Really? Nice. Well, they're not like crazy good. I think they're crazy good. I think we should go with this style. I actually didn't know how I was going to like the second one. And I kind of like the second one better. Oh, don't influence. Don't influence the viewers. OK, so we want you guys to vote for option one or option two. But first, I'm going to show you the options. This is I zoomed in too much. This is vote for turnip option one with the turnip. OK. And this is a look at my drop box progress bar. That's a grand show thumbnail. OK, give me a second. Just give me a second. That is my professional. That is my pictures folder. Maybe you should host your pictures on Squarespace. And this is the I don't even want to hear about anything from you. It's where space for the rest of the show. This is the regular vote for turnip shirt. So option one is with the picture of the turnip. Option two is just with the text. I'm going to go ahead. I'm going to post that straw pull right now. This will influence the turnip shirt, whichever one wins. OK, you guys. But on that straw pull, will there be a vote for turnip option? No. Should I? Should there be? No, no, no, no. We need a decision. We need a decision. We need a decisive decision. Because both of these are voting for turnip. Rather than going option one, option two, you should say with turnip picture without turnip picture. It's done. To be fair, Nick was very right. Wow, it's a dead heat. Look at that. Maybe because they don't know what the options are. So option one is with the picture of a turnip. Option two is without the turnip. Option one costs us more because there's more ink colors. Can we make a war? A war of the turnips? Yeah. What the hell are you talking about? Like a turnip fight. You are not having a good day. OK. But you could have like two warring Teespring campaigns and then you see who wins. That couldn't work. Damn. Because like with Kickstarter, you have to put your money on your vote. Yes. But like if we could make it so that everyone had to vote and then you just get whatever one wins. Wow. That would be like a whole new shirt buying paradigm that absolutely no one would like. You just buy whatever shirt everyone decides they're buying? It's like Tea Fury, but you don't get to pick. It's like Mashedrop plus Teespring plus like the haunted house where you put your hand into the bucket of spaghetti and like grapes and then you pull out a handful and eat it. That's what that idea is. I get your idea and I like it, but I think it might be ripping off Tea Fury. Huh? Tea Fury? No, because no. They always have like two and it's like five. Yeah, no, but my idea is you don't get the one that you necessarily voted for. You get whatever one wins. You're the worst person ever. Why did you even wake up this morning? Wow. I meant why did you get out of bed? Not why did you wake up. Why did you get out of bed? I wish you were sleeping forever. What a way to break up with someone, right? This is the worst fan show ever. No, no. There's like 7,200 people watching. It's not you. I just wish you were permanently sleeping. I meant why did you get out of bed? I don't wish you were dead. It's still okay if you consume oxygen, but I never want you to talk or move. I hate this show. Okay, so it looks like the one with the picture of the turnip won, and I guess we should probably do some tech news because we have like 20 minutes left in this show. I wish you were sleeping forever. I like the mattress. Okay. I like Burkle's version. I am so thirsty right now. I've been talking and laughing too much. It's illegal to rip CDs if you live in the UK. Yeah, so this was posted on the forum by Ah Ming. The original article here is from F.org. This is the stupidest thing ever because ripping CDs is not sharing CDs. So I don't understand what the issue here with ripping CDs is. Yeah, sure. Thank you. Yeah, I could use a drink. Thank you very much. I think his desire for my permanent sleep means that I'm not getting a drink, but it's okay. I understand. So court strikes down law allowing users to rip their own CDs. I don't have much to say about this. But there are possible ways to get around this is to supply evidence that the copyright owners suffer no or minimal harm from personal copying or impose a new tax on users to compensate the industry for that harm. We already have that tax in Canada. So there's that. It's really funny though because the tax is on, if I recall correctly, blank media and then I think MP3 players. So like the two deadest categories. Peace media industry. Hope you enjoyed that levy while it lasted. I was in, you know how I made the video about the Taipei Tech Mall? Yeah. I haven't watched it yet. I feel bad. I should watch it. It's a weird, it's not a normal video. So it may be interesting. Beside the brand new shiny fancy tech mall, there's the old building, which is the old tech mall, which isn't shiny at all. It is very unshiny, but there's tons of tech. I think there's like 11 floors or something and they're all just tiny little stores that are jammed completely full of stuff. One of them was a blank media store. They sold DVDs and CDs and there was people shopping. Really? Do they not have USB drives? I walked by and was just like, what? You know what's really funny is a friend of mine in high school and I'm dating myself a little bit here. Oh, thank you. A friend of mine in high school. Wow. I think it was a trip to Hong Kong or Taiwan. I'm not sure which one, so I don't want to, don't quote me on it, but this is like back when I was in like grade eight. So USB thumb drives were like the shit. Okay. Like it was a 16 meg and like he got a 32 meg because he like splurged on himself. But still that was like a really nice gift because all of a sudden I had a USB drive and like everyone else was slumming it with floppy drives, floppy disks straight up. Okay. So I'm kind of wondering how is it that we've come full circle here? There was flash media stores. There was a store that sold only flash stuff. They sold flash drives. They sold M.2 things. They sold SSDs. Right. So like a memory store. Just only flash stuff. No hard drives. No hard drives. Wow. Yeah, just flash. What does that say about the direction of the industry? There was also hard drive stores. There was everything. There was like five different places that sold like basically the exact same thing on a floor. It was ridiculous. Anyways, that's really all we probably have to say about that. So the court accepted that the EU copyright directive does not require that sellers must be able to extract the every last gram of value from the copyright. So the personal copying exception may have resulted in loss of sales. For example, a consumer may have refrained from buying an extra copy of their favorite CD for their car. So the government failed to provide any evidence that these lost sales were zero or minimal. You should be able to refrain from buying an extra copy of CD for your car. You absolutely should. That's so dumb. If you're buying something that you're licensing rather than something that you're owning, then you should straight up have a personal license to it. I mean, that's the way that anything sensible actually works. I mean, Office 365 is my license for the computer. No, that's the direction the world's going. The license is for me personally and the five devices that I want to use it on. Freaking awesome. That is the right direction. So yeah, this is the right direction. I buy certain soundtracks. I'm a huge fan of Supergiant Games and I really like their music department. Like the music for Bastion is fantastic. I listen to that soundtrack while I run a lot. The music for Transistor was also very good. I think Bastion is better. But regardless, I bought the Transistor soundtrack. You actually found the disc for it. Yeah. That's because I ripped it and then completely forgot about it since the game came out because why would I care about the disc? Whatever. I don't know. Who cares? So this was posted by TwistedDictator. The original article here is from PCGamer.com and it's Assassin's Creed News. So this is either Ubisoft pulling their heads out of their butts and really committing to PC gamers that they're taking it seriously now and they're ready to do things properly. Or this is going to have to... Okay. If Assassin's Creed Syndicate is a mess on the PC, do we do keep on digging V2? Do we do another keep on digging shirt? Keep on keeping on digging. Or something like that. Oh my God. You could make it like the keep on keeping on and then just put the digging in the middle of the text. Yes. Like those... Anyways, that would be an awesome... That would be a really cool shirt actually. So Creative Director tells PCGamer at E3, we've got an internal team that's dedicated to the PC version. And one of the things I'm happy about is that we're really taking our time with the PC version to really make it shine. We want the game to really work well on the PC on day one, which is why it's not the same launch date as the Xbox One and PS4 versions. It will come a bit later in the fall, but I think it will be worth the wait. Haven't they said this before? So they're taking a page out of Rockstar's book where, okay, yes PC gamers... Yeah, but GTA V came out pretty okay. But it also took a really long time. So I think they're finding a... Well, that's exactly it. So they're taking a page out of Rockstar's book. People were upset at all the delays, but you look at the amount of upset people are over Arkham Knight versus the amount of upset people are over GTA V, where on Arkham Knight it translates into bad reviews and people not buying the game. And with GTA V, which I almost just slipped the bird at the audience, where with GTA V it translates into people buying copious numbers of copies. Jack from NCIX was telling me he literally owns two copies of the game. One for the Xbox and one on PC. I know a lot of people that are like that. So that the extra features they built into PC can be enjoyed again. And one really smart thing that they did was your online character could transfer. So you could bring them from the console version to the PC version. So there's people that were like over level 100 on day one PC, which was a little insane, but it's not really that big of a deal in that game, so who cares? So yeah, so that's basically all there is to it. So it's going to come to the Xbox one and PlayStation four on October 23rd. And they're saying a bit later in the fall. So that means we're not going to be looking at 2017 for a release. I mean, given that Assassin's Creed is on a yearly release cadence, it's not like they can wait that much longer. Like they can't be launching, you know, Assassin's Creed, you know, Amazonia, or whatever sort of locale they end up going to next. Amazonia would work. Like the Xbox and then yeah, that would actually be awesome. Jungle Assassinations could be pretty badass. That would be so cool. I really want that game now. Maybe not made by Ubisoft, but I really want that game. Oh, come on. Okay, I want to say two things about this real quick. First off, I believe they said exactly this crap before. We're focusing on the PC version. It'll be better. It'll be good. It's coming out slightly afterwards. Speaking of which, our next news topics are Microsoft. With the exact same crap. Anyways, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. I'll try this one. I'm not going to preorder any of that crap, but I'll try it because we're probably going to bench it anyways. Yeah, you're going to wait for our bench comments. Yeah. And then if it's good, I will not finish it and go back and try the other ones and any of them that are playable, I'll try to play through them and catch up. Wow. Gatorade, you are drinking it. Yeah. Needs like an H on here. It's blue. It works for Ubisoft. I'm surprised you drink Gatorade. I would think that has too much sugar in it for you to start off. It does, but there was two things of liquid. You took one of them. I'm really thirsty. It's crazy hot in here. I thought this was for me. I thought that was like your Gatorade because I don't have Gatorade. He handed them in that direction. Where did the Gatorade come from? It's not mine. I think it's Nick's. Oh, he gave you his Gatorade. That's why I said thanks so many times. He doesn't hate you that much. He doesn't want me to permanently sleep anymore. Yeah, that's nice. Or maybe he does. Well, it's not nice. It's just not horrible. All right, Microsoft. This was posted by Jaws on the forum. Just made millions off of Windows XP, software that is literally over 10 years old. With that said, it's not like it's not like the way that a company sometimes makes money off of 10 year old software where they actually don't have to do any additional work. And it's just money in the bank. This is a contract between the US Navy and Microsoft to continue to provide security updates and patches for Windows XP for the 100,000 workstations that they're still busy transitioning to newer operating systems. So I guess for the US Navy, given how many workstations they have going on that are relying on Windows XP, Office 2003, Exchange 2003, and Windows Server 2003, the contract, which could extend up to 2017, could be worth the 30.8 million to not have to have the software that runs on those PCs. Because you can even look at that and go, really, 30.8 million? They could just buy a bunch of badass digital storm gaming rigs for 30.8 million running Windows 8, which they could upgrade to Windows 10 and then not have to worry about this for a while. That's so weird. Just like you walk into a Navy thing and it's like, digital storm, water cooling. OK. I don't know. I'd expect much more industrial style stuff. The issue is the software that won't run on newer versions of Windows that would have to be rewritten and that they're kind of still working on. Well, that's why people, was it the Omron video? They're like, oh, lol, Windows XP. And I'm like, yeah, never connects to the internet, does the same thing all the time. It's probably OK. I don't know. Anything that doesn't connect to the internet could be running Windows 95 for all it matters. It never connects to the internet and you don't plug anything into it. Yeah. Like whatever as a keyboard and mouse and then you do stuff. Windows 10 insider. This has been huge news this week. This is posted by Kodiak and the article here is from Ars Technica. Microsoft clarification kind of clears up the Windows 10 license confusion because this has been some confusing stuff going on right now. So Microsoft can't make up their mind about what's going on with Windows 10 licensing. So first the rumor was that that people running pirated editions would get Windows 10 and then they were going to get upgraded to Windows 10. But it was going to be with the same restrictions as the pirated edition or something, whatever, whatever that means, which is OK. And then it was insiders were going to get free copies of Windows 10. And then it was insiders are going to get upgrade copies or something like that. So they would have to install the wait something. OK, people who have Windows 7 and Windows 8, they get an upgrade copy. They'd have to reinstall the old one and then install again over top of it. The whole thing's been confusing. But the big one has been that Microsoft said they were going to give insiders. So the folks that have been essentially beta testing the software, a legit full copy of Windows 10 for nothing. And they have clarified it now. The requirement is that whether you're on the fast track for new builds or the slower track for new builds, you have to stay in the insider program in order to get the free ongoing legitimate product. So to opt out of the insider program, you will need a valid Windows 7, 8 or 10 license because without a suitable license, the operating system will eventually expire. You know, one thing I've been wondering about with the pirate license thing, this isn't 100 percent on topic, but if you have no you can like there's there's there's there's ways to get your computer to make it think that it's activated for a little while. And then a lot of times Windows will figure it out and you get and then you go on activated or whatever. If you are kind of like fake activated, are you going to get your key overwritten and then be permanently activated on Windows 10? I don't know if it's very clear right now. There's still a few things that are up in the air. But the point basically was, hey, the insider program is looking pretty cool if you don't mind beta testing software for Microsoft. And the fact that this is on an ongoing basis really points to a really different philosophy for Microsoft Windows. I like it with it sounds like much more rapid releases and much smaller feature upgrades. I mean, that that is really cool, really exciting. And thank you to all the insiders who are who are who are testing all this stuff and giving feedback so that we can get, you know, better versions of Windows as time goes on. I'm liking this whole I'm liking this whole new Microsoft thing that's going on. I wasn't sure that a CEO change was going to make a difference. And it really looks like it doesn't. A lot of times it really does nothing. Just like it's like an on the surface sort of change, whereas this looks like a much thing. Yeah, they hired him from internal and they hired him from like the cloud team or something, didn't they? Well, so they hired a fairly technical dude to kind of take over that spot like in the whole like in the whole change going on over there. All right. Now we should do we should stick on the Microsoft News bandwagon because this is actually what I thought you were going to bring up after the Ubisoft thing because it would have made a ton of sense to go right after the Ubisoft thing. I don't know if you even knew this was in the doc, though. Xbox Phil Spencer, I want to give people a chance. I called this out in the topics at the thing when we say things. Who posted this one? Twisted Dictator. This was Twisted Dictator again. Yeah. This is very similar to the Assassin's Creed one. That is not it. Wow. That's really funny. I OK. I got to show you guys this. So I clicked the link. I thought and oh wait. Oh, I clicked the wrong link. Anyway, I clicked the link to the Assassin's Creed one by accident. Yeah. So it's not that one. Anyways, he he he states that he wants Xbox to be the best TV gaming platform, but also give the users a choice to play games when they're not around the TV. And he says, as a gamer, I play games on PC. I want to be able to play the games where I want to play them. I want to give people a choice. And basically he goes through saying that if you want to play, where does he call out titles here? He calls out titles somewhere. Dun dun dun dun. Here we go. If I if I want to play Killer Instinct, if I want to play gear, if I want to play fable, I should be able to do that. I shouldn't have to force people to buy something by excluding their choice. Xbox does a lot of crap. And then never does anything about it. But aren't they bringing gears to PC? I think so. I don't think they're I don't think they're doing the entire back catalog. So the assumption would be that you've already played all the gears games on Xbox or else you're going to get dumped into the story in the middle of whatever's happening in gears. I don't play gears because it's not on PC. Yeah. I know there's some really jacked dudes and they fight aliens. I know that there's a gun. They have a saw on the bottom. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. And like a chainsaw. Well, I think there are chest high walls if Yahtzee is to be believed. Yes. So there's blood on the chainsaws that are on the gun. Right. But that's only if you kill dudes with it or you or you like slip and cut yourself and then you hide in the corner and you heal. I would assume that there's but the blood doesn't dry. Ah, yes. Yeah. Okay. Anyways, I think they have actually been stepping in this direction. So this is a whole bunch of words that technically have no actionable items behind them and no promises that they're doing anything at all. So it could mean literally nothing. Okay. Cool. But I'm hoping that it kind of does. And especially with the Xbox app on PC, there is a ton of potential here because if they want to start doing crazy amounts of cross platform stuff, that'd be cool. Speaking of cross platform, I've been doing a little bit of work on the shield Android TV thing. You know, it's really cool. Yeah. There's War Thunder on Android TV. Yeah, I knew that. And it's not just Android TV that you play on. It's cross platform. Yeah. So I can play with my buddy on PC while I'm on my Android TV. On Android TV. That's very cool. Yeah. I've been messing around with Android TV and so the stores are weird. I finally realized that like if you really want to use it, you should really use the Nvidia store because the Google Play Store for Android TV is crap. But the Nvidia stores have to be really good. They actually do the shield store or the shield hub. They do a really good job of curating everything. And it's like, yeah, here's the stuff that should be relevant to you if you own a shield. The Android one, it's so fragmented. Like I was trying to find games with Nick and we'd be like, oh, okay, here's a list of games. There'd be like five. And I'm like, wow, this is all the games they have on this platform. What? And then like half an hour later, we're in some other menu with a whole bunch of them, but they're all unsorted and there's no ratings. I'm like, what? But then, yeah, the shield hub had ratings and more stuff. It's no wonder Google is like a buddy buddy with Nvidia. Like Nvidia, Nvidia is investing really heavily in Android as a gaming platform. You can really see it. Things like the fact that my shield portable is probably the oldest device that I own that is still getting Android updates. Nvidia is doing a really good job of trying to support these devices. I sure wish instead of that, they would bring us a shield portable too. Instead of things that hook up to your TV and things that are a tablet. Well, not instead of, in addition to, I mean, those are good things too. I just, I really want a new shield portable for Titex One. I hope, I hope. If there's something that is viable, I guess I would understand. But I really want them to just stop calling their new device just the shield. Like give it, give it a full name so that when something else new comes out that you're also going to call the shield, it's not just called the shield again. And then that old one gets a new name. Because isn't the shield console actually just called the shield? I think it's called the shield Android TV, which is the stupidest thing ever. It's a really long name, but at least, at least it's self explanatory. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's really, it's really confusing. I wish, yeah, I don't know what the naming. So like you can tell they're kind of making this up as they go. And they're just kind of like trying things, throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks. I mean, the thing that they're, the thing that they've been really clear about from the beginning is that the software is important. Yeah. So they're really focused on making sure Game Stream rocks. They're really focused on making sure the shield hub is like shield hub has been completely redesigned at least once since I've been using it. I like it. Yeah. It's good. Very good. But the hardware, they're just, I think they're just kind of trying stuff. Like next we might see a shield backpack. I don't know. Well, I was kind of thinking when I said like, I don't know what devices you would come up with. The first thing that popped in my head was a drone. The battle drones that we've been talking about. Oh, that would be so awesome. But if you had Android drones that you could fight virtually. Like the virtual fighting drones already kind of exist. But if it was like a proper good game made for it, that could be kind of cool. Like shield drones. Shield drones. Yeah. Nvidia drones. My drone would be shielded straight up. You couldn't take it down. Yeah. What are we talking about? Considering they'd probably be the same. So would mine. And then that would be a boring fight. Because two paladins with divine shield is really boring for about six or seven seconds. All right. So there's a rumor that Apple will be moving away from the home button. Yeah. So full full screen screens. Yep. They are apparently developing a chip that will allow that functionality. Hmm. That functionality to be integrated into the touch screen. And based on that, they've already got force force touch on the Apple watch, which, by the way, is horrible compared to force touch on the MacBook. Yeah. It's like here. OK. I'll show you because it's like it's just dumb. OK. Oops. OK. So force touch. So like press and then like press harder. You notice how fast the screen turns off? Isn't that hilarious? Yeah. It's like we don't have very good battery life. Screen off. Screen off. Screen off as quickly as possible. Always. So go ahead and force touch it. Like just press and then hold. No, no. The screen. OK. Now you've got Siri open. Press harder. That's weird. Yeah. So it's just a vibe on your wrist. Whereas did you ever use the MacBook's touchpad? No. Ah, OK. Well, then you don't even know what you're comparing. I have no idea what force touch is. So it sounds cool. You press you press harder on the trackpad and then haptic feedback makes it feel like there's two layers of click when actually on the MacBook, there is no downward movement. There are no layers of click. OK, so let's move on to our next news topic. Anyway, I think force touch on a touch screen is going to be super dumb. But but I also got sold on it on the MacBook. So there you go. This is from Kit Guru, originally posted by Boozoo, PCI Express 4.0. The new data rates and new connector to be finalized by 2017. So we're going to get a doubling to 16 giga transfers per second of the available communication bandwidth. So that is something along the lines of a ball. What is it? And I think it's like two gigabytes per second per lane or something like that. Hold on. Hold on. Yeah. A one X interconnect will transfer up to two gigabytes per second when you compare that to the 250 megabytes per second of Gen one. Wow. Now, I believe optics are going to be involved. Oh, really? Not in not. So not in this one necessarily, but a fifth generation is going to almost definitely rely on optical rather than copper links. But this one is still copper. You're still going to be able to have risers, but they won't be as long. And it's going to be a new connector. So this is a tricky thing. Backwards compatibility for the first time is not going to be a given. So PCI Express Gen three cards will work in a Gen four slot. But a PCI Express Gen four card will not work in your old Gen three motherboard. So what's going to be really interesting to see here is if AMD once again doesn't have the R&D to develop the latest PCI Express standard, we could see a pretty devastating impact on their CPU sales, at least for for upgrade. Because I don't know if a lot of you even realize this. There is not an AMD chipset that supports PCI Express three point. Like their graphics cards do, but they literally have that only for the benefit of people plugging them into Intel. That's right. We're making a new CPU though, right? They said what socket it's on. Probably new socket. I'm sure they know about this. Oh, that's 2017. Yeah, yeah. PCI Express four point is 2017. So Zen should be coming next year. Yeah. So hopefully AMD is laying the groundwork now to support PCI Express. Because not being able to get a new graphics card in one year, not being able to get a top of the line new graphics card in one year would be pretty rough. It's yeah. The twenty. Well, remember to the spec will be finalized by 2017. So it won't really be out on consumer boards for quite a while. So it'll be it's going to be a while. But, you know, if it was twenty seventeen, I don't know that I would necessarily invest in like an Uber rig if PCI Express four point is around the corner. Yeah. With that said, I mean, you want to be able to put new cards into it. We could see yet again, we could see it happen again where top tier cards could be released for both interfaces. We've seen this before in the AGP to PCI Express transition era. You could buy an X 800 XT AGP or an X 800 or X 850 or like whatever it was. There were PCI Express and AGP versions of like similar power graphics cards at the time. So I don't know. And it probably won't matter. I don't know how it'll be handled. Graphics cards probably still won't be too fast. Yeah. Like I don't think you'll need the extra bandwidth. It's just well, I mean, it depends what we're doing with graphics cards. Like if they find a way, you know, maybe HBM memory and like, you know, your new VR setup are going to have some like crazy fast interconnect or something like, you know, imagine this for a second. What if you had like a hyper high resolution display for VR that required literally a PCI Express link to your computer? Like what if you couldn't run over display port? Think about that for a second. Like what if you had to have like PCI Express with like repeaters in order to get enough distance to like, but what if you could play it like 16 K or 32 K or something crazy like that? There's got to be a visual fidelity limit or whatever. Yeah, but I don't think we're anywhere near it. No, I think. Is 8K the limit you think? I have no idea. 4K isn't the limit. We know that much. I have no idea. I think Carmack wants 4K because that's what there is, not because that's the limit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's the other problem is there's other stuff that needs to be increased too. Yes, there's a lot of stuff. So like we won't even know what the limit is because say if we're there and there's other problems, you won't necessarily know. Yep. You have to leave it to other things. So speaking of leaving to do other things, I think that's it for the LAN show today. Thank you guys very much for tuning in. A huge thanks to our sponsors for putting up with this guy. 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