 Okay, and we're back and hopefully the audio is fine. It sounds fine to me. It's fine for some people. Yeah, apparently it was fine to some people, so I suspect it was more of a Twitch issue than anything else. But since we're restarting the show, we have to do a very brief thing here. So we're going to cover the Intel X99 chipset and their 8-core brand new Extreme Edition 5960X. Amazon purchased Twitch TV for $1 billion. $1 billion-ish. Alright, Microsoft is cracking down on fake apps in the Windows Store. Windows 9 will be free or quite cheap, and boom, here's the intro. You know, I haven't actually watched this. Really? Yeah, like, for a long time. It's nicer than I thought it was. Yeah, it's really good. Except you need to make an Asian smaller guy instead of the loop on the right there. Alright, so our sponsors this week are... What did I do? Oh, that's sort of terrible. Okay, we're going to have to watch it again, apparently. No, don't worry, I got this. And... yay! Our sponsors this week are 5-4 Club. They have actually slightly revised their usual deal. So I will be giving you guys more details, but instead of the old offer, you may actually get cash money in your box. Which I think is pretty darn interesting. Also... oh, wow, I did it again. That... that is something. That is something. Alright, so also powering the show this week is HyperX. And we've actually got... Yeah, the intro's playing. Okay, I got this. I got this. I got this under control. This is what happens when I don't sleep, and the entire week is a complete disaster for me. So this week, the show is also brought to you by HyperX. We've actually got Luke and Brandon down at PAX Prime. They are powered by HyperX down there at the show. And they are going to be doing a great job of bringing you guys some great content from PAX. So one thing to keep in mind, guys, is that HyperX asked for us to mention their YouTube channel. So that's youtube.com slash Kingston HyperX. They've got a lot of great gaming content on there, so make sure that you check that out. Alright. So... Alright, Twitch chat, I'm sorry. We're done with the technical difficulties... for now. Alright, so our first news topic this week, and this was... this was removed from the forum since the original post by Marcus underscore UK. So the article here is from GameSpot, and Amazon acquires Twitch in a one billion dollar deal. See, GameSpot agrees with me. One billion dollars. Now, this flies in the face of the original rumors that YouTube was going to acquire Twitch. And we were actually talking about this in the car on the way back from the office the other day. And I think the Amazon acquisition makes sense, but I think you were saying that YouTube might have been a more... might have been a more sensible option, depending on whose perspective we're talking about. So... I think it's better that Amazon bought Twitch just because you don't have that consolidation of power with regards to video streaming. I was just playing double's advocate, because Google has acquired a ton of things, and they haven't really ruined them. Except for Waze and... what else? I think there are people who would argue that they've kind of ruined YouTube compared to the sort of the indie vibe that YouTube had going on at the beginning. But honestly, I think it was going to go that direction eventually anyway, because they were going to have to figure out a monetization model. Just that Google figured that out. And YouTube might have come to a very similar conclusion on their own if they had stayed independent. Except that they might not have been able to ever build the kind of infrastructure to support, you know, HD and now 4K that Google has managed to build to back it up. Wait, so are you trying to say that YouTube was ruined or wasn't? I'm trying to say some people say it is. I personally don't think so. Yeah, they're crazy. I mean, I think that YouTube has been great for content creators, and it's been pretty darn good with some obvious hiccups, like the recent Google Plus integration. And us not being able to upload anything. Yeah, and the fact that we can't upload anything right now. But, by and large, it's better than it used to be. I mean, I used to have issues uploading files all the time. Now it's, like, weird when it happens. Apparently I look awkward. You look awkward. I think we both look awkward because the camera is, like, super awkward and we're far away and stuff. But so what would you have seen happening then if Google acquired Twitch instead of Amazon? I think it would be largely the same. Just because I don't think either of them want to ruin a good thing because Twitch is as big as big as it is just because that's what they do. They've only been around three years. JustinTV was longer. That's true. But the whole game streaming thing has only been around for three years on Twitch.tv. Or Twitch, I guess, is their current branding. Which is more reason not to tamper with anything just because who else really understands game streaming besides Twitch and AzubiTV? Who else? Nah, that's it. They can't really bring in their own experience just because they don't have that experience. So I think by and large either company would have left Twitch alone. Hard to say because even though Twitch has so much more experience with live game streaming, I think that if Google acquired them, and this was an opinion that I saw kind of echoed in a number of different places, I think had Google acquired Twitch they would have been the little brother of YouTube. And the YouTube team could claim to have a lot of experience with game streamers because typically archived content, even from big game streamers, will do better on YouTube over the long term than it does on Twitch. In fact, Twitch has even revised their archiving policies to delete, well, to try to delete most of people's old footage unless they're saving it as a highlight reel. Because no one's really watching it. It's just taking up space. I watch it. Okay, you watch it. But would it kill you to go on their YouTube channel to watch it? Okay, well, from my perspective, I watch the tournaments when they're not in the right time zone, or if I just miss it. So I'll usually go to that Twitch broadcast channel and watch the pods on there. Whereas I would have to like YouTube and search some random channel to fight. Right. You know, this is an interesting take on this. I've got a few people in the Twitch chat suggesting that Amazon was actually buying the streaming technology that Twitch has been using. I don't know if I buy that. I mean, Amazon's already got their on demand video. It's not like they don't have the backbone to stream video. I really don't think that that's it. I mean, I think that there's probably a trick or two that Twitch has developed over the last few years here that is that is helping them to do what they're doing. But having actually chatted with someone pretty high up at Twitch around this time last year, I mean, they were they were brute forcing a lot of it at least a year ago. And there isn't really a way without building data centers all over the place to make streaming much less demanding, which happens to be exactly what Amazon has. And that's why that's a marriage made in heaven. And mind you, it's much the same in much the same way that Google and Twitch would have been as well, because Google also has data centers all over the place that would have been able to reduce the latency that we all experience with Twitch streams, as well as potentially increase the quality and reliability of the streams. So I totally disagree that Amazon bought them for the technology. I don't think their technology is anything special compared to what Amazon does. Someone says Edzel, stop staring at Linus. He can't resist. Oh, OK, fine. I'll start that. I'm trying to listen to you. That's the best way to listen. You're trying to listen. That's your first mistake. I'm just going to zoom this in a little bit. There we go. Hopefully that's all. Wow, because the camera's crooked, I look super tall, which is not the case at all. I'm actually taller than Linus. Someone says now you have a baby, you look all grown up. I actually have two kids now. I probably look grown up because I look old, because I am super, super tired this week. It has been a crazy week. Should we talk about it a little bit? Your baby? No, not my baby. The week we've had. What would you know about my baby? No name? Actually, we have named her now. Really? Yes. I basically just gave up. And Yvonne went with it. No, I don't reveal the kids' names on the stream or anything. It's Wanona. Yeah, it's not Wanona. It should have been Wanona. We have named the baby. We came in on Monday morning. Since then, it's been pretty much a blur. We have our main office room, all the editing, I painted it while you guys were doing arts and crafts. Wait, Monday? Really? Yeah. We got started Monday, I think. It was supposed to be three days, and today was the fourth, wasn't it? Oh yeah, you're right. What did we do Monday? Well, Brandon wasn't back yet. Whoa. This week feels like it's been two weeks. Have we been at this for five days? No, no, no, no. I don't think so. Okay, anyway, the point is, let's say Tuesday. Let's assume it was Tuesday. Tuesday morning, we tore apart the office. So all the workstation PCs, all the editing machines, we tore them out of the office and scattered them throughout the building because there was no space for anything. We piled all the desks in the middle, and Nick and I painted the room. Then, so what were you doing on the first day? I don't remember. Which was the first day? Was it Monday or Tuesday? Tuesday, let's say it was Tuesday. Okay. Did we build any PCs on the first day? I thought on the first day, Luke was drilling holes into things. Right. So the cases we picked needed to have two holes drilled in the top of each of them before we could actually install any hardware because there was a clearance issue with the radiators in spite of our pre-planning that we hoped was going to work. So Luke spent a lot of time doing that on the first day, and then I started building some of the computers, putting processors on motherboards. You helped with that, installing RAM. Power supply. Power supply. That was the first day. Yeah, that was the first day. Then, the second day, did we finish the computers the second day? I think the second day we did liquid cooling. Yeah, so we finished building the PCs, which when it's five PCs is actually somewhat time-consuming, especially when Linus gets abandoned by Luke so that he can test Intel's new fourth-gen processors that second day. Because Luke helped on the first day. Yeah, I think we're getting this. It's all been a blur. We've taken so much video, and you promised that the videos about this are going to be awesome, right? Now you're on the spot. You asked if they would be good. Not awesome. And I said, I would make it good. Okay. I guess that's what we're going to have to go with. We've got people complaining about audio sync issues again, but the reality of it is, guys, is I think it's just one of those things where, yeah, it's nothing to do with... Linus just broke NDA? No, no, no. Those are out. Those were released today. The all-new fourth-gen eight-core extreme edition, all that good stuff. So, would it help if I put the computer here so that you... I told you it looked like I was staring at your crotch. Okay, if I put the computer here, maybe that'll help a little bit. So, on the second day, we finished building the computers, and I don't know whether it's because SwiftX fittings are super tight or their tubing is a little bit big when the weather's really hot, but we were having a lot of trouble getting fittings on, and those computers took more than a full day of working to install fittings in and install tubing in. So, then after that, that's when Nick was working on redoing the plan to mount the radiator to the outside of the house, right? I don't know about that part just because I was busy fiddling with the fittings the entire time. Yeah, Ed was the one... I actually didn't even know how SwiftX Quick Disconnects worked, and Ed was the one who figured out that we have to... What does it come with? It comes with a socket, a G1 quarter socket, and then we have to put an end cap on instead, right? Yeah. Yeah. How did I even figure that out? I think I may have just been trying to undo the Quick Disconnect, and then I couldn't figure that out. I'm just twisting it, things came off, and I may have picked up the wrong piece and tried to put that on. But it worked out. Yeah. Yeah, so we figured that out, and then during that time, Nick was realizing, along with me, that our original plan for mounting the radiators on the fascia board, under the roof overhang, was not gonna work. It was way too big and way too heavy. That biz was not happening. So Nick had to figure out how to build a wooden frame around the whole thing, and then mount the radiators to that, and then we had to find a way to get that on the roof. And I think that was what we did on the third day. We mounted the radiator to the roof in the morning. Third day was... Yeah. Wasn't that yesterday, though? Yeah. Was that third day? Yeah. We mounted the radiator yesterday. So Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and then today, four days. Yeah. And then the afternoon yesterday and today, we have filled the loop now a total of three times due to various leaking and configuration issues. So that's been our week this week. We can move on to... Actually, I'm gonna try to upload this file again just because I can have a dream that maybe YouTube won't be broken. The radiator isn't actually on the roof. It's in between the houses. So here are the houses. One house, our house. It's like over here. And no matter where the sun is, it's actually in the shade. So it's not gonna get cooked. Yeah, we were actually kind of fortunate that there was somewhere sensible to put that because that wasn't necessarily a thing that we planned. Why is the piping not in the wall? No way. Firefox is working and Chrome isn't for our upload. Brilliant. Freaking jokes, man. Jokes, man. Are we even using distilled water? No, we're not, right? Nope. Yeah, it's just from the hose. Yeah, it's from the hose because that was the only way we were able to fill it. So Linus went up on the ladder, radiator. We brought up a hose into the bathroom and fill it that way. This might look wrong. That definitely looks all wrong. Yeah, so that was the only way we could even get water into it because we're not using a closed system. It's not sealed. We actually have like a fill tube that goes up above the highest level of the piping that's in the room. So the only way to get anything in there, because there's no room to even pour, is to put the hose in because if we brought it down any lower, as soon as the pump stops, the system would back up and pour water, which we discovered the hard way once. We discovered that it wasn't quite high enough. Were you there for that? No, I think I was outside. Oh no, it poured water all over me. I have gotten sprayed with water quite a few times in the last few days. It has been extremely exciting. All right, so why don't we move on to our next topic here? Nvidia will allegedly skip 800 series desktop cards and the next generation will be called 900 series. This was posted by Rock1M1 originally on the Linus Tech Tips forum. So I guess, do you want to give the basic facts here? Why don't we just, if you put your leg down, then we can put this on both of our legs, then we can both look like we're staring at each other. It was just like a rumor, so there's not much to talk about. So the fact is, the rumor is that in order to align with, what was it, the notebook naming scheme? They were going to name the notebook line GTX 900, or 900M, but then they thought that it would be confusing because the desktop was still on 700. And the notebooks were rebranded 800 a little while ago. So they're in this weird position where they've done this at times, I mean they've done it right now, where the notebook ones are a series ahead of the desktop ones, even though they're running this completely the same architecture. But I guess if they found themselves two gems ahead on mobile, that might get extremely confusing. Or, if they're planning to refresh both at the same time, then now's a good time to just kind of skip one and catch up. It's not the first time they've done it. There was never a GTX 380. Was it just for mobile? No, there was never, I don't think there was ever a GTX 300 series at all. Because we got... Yeah, they scrapped that. Yeah, yeah, I think the rumor was they just completely scrapped the project entirely. Well, the announcement will come... Rumored. Allegedly. Will come on September 9. Wow, that's really soon. We've got a lot of stuff going on right now with all the new Intel stuff, DDR4. So guys, our first video about the Intel Haswell E8 Core Extreme Edition will actually be coming, I think, Tuesday night. So Luke has run all the benchmarks, I've scripted the video, but we haven't had a single video editing workstation up and running in order... Oh, there's a laptop....to actually make it. Well, there was a laptop, but we were using that to make the videos that we've released over the last couple days. So yeah, there's been no time, but guys, this thing is a beast. Intel has finally done it. They have caught up to the mainstream platform. I mean, I don't know about the rest of you, but I have found it extremely frustrating that for, it must be about five years now, you've been able to get better technology by buying into a mainstream platform than by buying into an enthusiast platform. I mean, what's the deal with that? And we're not even just talking about CPU architecture. So ever since the LGA 1156, LGA 1366 days, ever since then, you've been able to get things like quick sync technology for quick video transcoding. You've been able to get more USB 3 ports, native USB 3 ports, more native SATA 3 connectors, or even native SATA 3 connectors at all back in the X58 days, like Thunderbolt. All this new technology has been coming to the mainstream LGA 1155 and LGA 1150 platforms before we get it on LGA 2011. Well now, all of that changes. There is actually a justifiable reason to go LGA 2011 3. So the CPUs are all more cores. I mean, that was supposed to be a big selling point. Even back with X58 was it can support more than four cores. We had six cores. The problem is that the only one in the consumer space was the 980X. It was a, and the 990X, and Xeons, I guess. But these are not really consumer grade price points. They were thousand dollar CPUs. So everyone just went with quad cores on the mainstream platform because a few more PCIe lanes and triple channel or quad channel memory is not enough to justify a CPU architecture that is inherently anywhere from 8 to 15% slower, depending on which generational gap we're looking at, regardless of how much memory bandwidth it has. So now, with LGA 2011 3, we are getting the same CPU architecture. So it's Haswell or Haswell E. But basically Haswell E is just Haswell with more Haswells. We are getting DDR4, which right now is very expensive for not much of a performance gain, but in the future will give us much higher speed memory. We're getting quad channel memory. We're getting more PCIe lanes. So 40 on the high end chips, and then I believe, don't quote me on this, I believe it's either 26 or 28 PCIe lanes on the lower end chip. We're getting the same feature set so we can get Thunderbolt enabled motherboards, which is really awesome. Like the X99 Deluxe from ASUS has that Thunderbolt header so you can add their Thunderbolt 2 expansion card. We are getting the works. And it is, what's up? No, people are saying I'm quiet. Oh, you're quiet. Sorry. You kind of got on the whole Intel. Yeah. I'm on kind of a thing because the problem with LGA 2011 was there was one CPU that was within reach for general consumers. And it was either the 3820K or the 4820K for the last couple of generations. The problem was that was a quad core chip. It was a quad core chip that was more expensive on a more expensive platform with more expensive RAM for literally no performance improvement unless you really need the extra memory bandwidth or you really need a few more PCIe lanes, which most people don't need unless they also need more processing cores. So in order to even get a sensible configuration on LGA 2011, you were spending $600 plus on your chip. Not exactly a compelling sort of gamer type of price point. Well now on LGA 2011 3 for around 400 bucks, you can get a six core. So all of a sudden the entire Intel lineup makes sense again. So on the mainstream, you got quad cores up to nice high clocked ones like their new Devil's Canyon 4790K. Then you pay another, I guess it's around another $75 to $100. You get two more cores plus a more robust, more enthusiast grade platform and DDR4 support. Then beyond that, you get a few more PCI Express lanes, although I think that lower end one is going to be the more appealing one for most enthusiasts. And then at the very high end, there's the extreme edition. The whole thing finally makes sense again. So that's what I'm excited about. And yeah, we've got people talking about it in Twitch chat. That six core for 389 looks like a good CPU for the money. Damn right. Because even though single threaded performance isn't going to be any better, overclocking is solid. DDR4 is going to help a little bit. And if you need the extra cores, like let's say you want to, I don't know, output videos while you game, then you will have it. Someone says hire Luke back please. Linus, everyone is ignoring you and staring at Edsel. Luke is not fired. Well, not any more than he's usually fired. Luke is at PAX. So he was driving last night and he's doing show coverage right now. So he and Brandon are doing a great job of that presumably. They're asking him to poke me. They always do this. They do this with Luke too. Luke poke Linus. Why is this room so hot? As if I'm not also looking at the Twitch chat. You know what? This isn't nearly as hot as it usually is. We have a fan blowing and we have the window open. The window's not open. The window's not open? Oh, you're going to want to open that window. That explains why it's so hot in here. Oh, I love this show. All right. So in other news that I suspect almost nobody cared about, Origin PC and AMD have officially made up. So Origin will once again give buyers the option to use AMD cards in their Origin PCs. This was posted by huanwu26 on the forum. Did you even hear about this? No, but I read up on what the comments said and apparently Origin PC just got butt hurt. Is that right? Just because they weren't informed by AMD about the Hawaii GPU launch? Okay. So there's a couple of things. So rumor number one is that Nvidia had a program where they paid Origin copious amounts of money to not sell AMD, but that's just a rumor. But that is just a rumor. Nvidia has come out and said that's not true. So that's all we know about that. What I do know is that Origin was not at the AMD Hawaii GPU event and Mane Gear PC had a demo system up running Hawaii GPUs at the event when Origin did not allegedly have any access to said GPU. So the rumor is that Origin basically was super upset about that and was like, what, you don't want us to sell your GPUs? Fine, we're not going to sell your GPUs anyway. So apparently they have kissed and made up and AMD apologized, which I think was probably merited. Because it's one thing if you invite all your system builder partners to come and showcase their rigs. It's another if you pick one favorite one and then leave all the others out or even one of the others out. Maybe it's a budget concern. I don't think so. I mean, that Hawaii event cost a fortune. Maybe that's why there was a budget issue just getting everyone there. They blew it all on Linus. Wow. I mean, they had, I think they had over a hundred tech journalists at that event. So they could have just not invited me in Austin and they could have probably afforded to have Origin there. And then this whole thing could have been avoided. But who's more important really? Me and Austin? Yeah. Or Origin PC? I think we have to do a straw poll. Straw poll time, guys. Straw poll dot. Do you want to see what I'm typing? You can look at my crotch. There we go. Who? This is me looking at the laptop and this is me looking at his crotch. There's a difference. Linus and Austin. Origin PC. You know what's funny is we're actually going to be covering a really cool new product from Origin at the show. I'm not down on Origin at all. They're cool guys. They have great products. It's just, just having some fun at their expense right now. All right. Here we go. Here we go. I'm sorry. You're not logged in. Yeah. What the deuce? All right, guys, I'm sharing this with you now. I'm trying to trying desperately to, you know, I'm actually really excited. I'm excited about the technological improvements that I think the Amazon acquisition is going to bring to Twitch. What's it? What, what do you think it's going to change? I think it will improve reliability because Amazon is reliable. I mean, AWS is reliable. Except for those times that it has gone down and led to dozens of sites being offline. Okay. When Amazon, when AWS has a problem, I think the news about it gets amplified. I don't think that's because AWS has tons of problems compared to other services. I think it's just that because they host so much, it's a lot more noticeable when there's some kind of an issue. I think, hmm, I think that might be an issue in itself. Just because if Twitch goes down with like Amazon hosting it and like 10 other sites that you might go to also go down, right? You know, what are you left with? Whereas if those go down, you still have Twitch. So you can watch us. Well, I suspect that they will be, I mean, unless, you know, an entire data center loses power and is underwater or something like that, I suspect you won't see an outright outage of something like Twitch. You might see the service slow down in much the same way that we often see it happen now. But it has happened. Right? Right? Hasn't it? Pretty sure. Where it's like, oh, blah, blah, blah, it's down. It all leads to Amazon being down. Very rare. But I think the thing we can all agree on is that Linus and Austin were much more important to invite to the Hawaii event than Origin PC. So we're really sorry about that, Origin. You know, you guys, you guys, you guys tried, you know, you tried to be as cool as me and Austin, but unfortunately that wasn't going to happen. All right. What do we got for our next topic? Aha! Valve will optimize their streaming service with Nvidia hardware. So this is from the Nvidia blog. Let's go ahead and share my screen with you guys here. There we go. Valve and Nvidia just made game streaming better than ever. Last week, Valve officially released support for hardware encoding on Nvidia GeForce GPUs in the Steam client. Pair the support with one of the latest GeForce GTX GPUs and you can play remotely from your PC connected to any Steam enabled system in your home at resolutions of up to 1080p. So I think this is kind of Nvidia making a lot of noise about something that was bound to happen eventually and really not that different from much anything else anyhow. But it's great. I mean, have you tried Steam in-home streaming? No. No. Okay. It is awesome. And I've actually spent a little bit of time on Steam chat with the lead dev for Steam in-home streaming. And he was, I was chatting to him about sort of video encoding and decoding and what they're doing with respect to lowering latency. And it's absolutely fascinating because they basically have to re-tackle it from a different angle for every different combination of encoders and decoders in order to make sure that everything is compatible and everything not only works, but is extremely low latency. So you don't feel that network lag when you move the keyboard or when you press the keyboard or move the mouse. What do you play? What do I play over Steam in-home streaming? Almost anything. I've even played FPS games. Is that the shield or? No. So one of the potential problems with streaming within the home, so from a more powerful PC to a smaller device or a laptop or another PC was I saw potential competing standards as a roadblock. The fact that Nvidia had their own technology where it was like, okay, you need a GeForce GPU, you got to install GeForce experience on your PC, you got to have an Nvidia Shield branded device. So whether it's a portable handheld or the tablet and you got to have a supported router and that is it. You plug in all these things and then all the check marks come on and it works. So I kind of saw that as a potential problem compared to Valve's solution which is, okay, do you have a graphics card? Great. Do you have a CPU? Also great. Do you have some other thing? Great. It works. Except the other thing has to run Steam and the first thing has to run Steam as well. And then depending on the hardware, you were going to either have a really great experience if you had nice fast hardware encoding and decoding or you were going to have a super crummy experience. So for example, LGA 1156 CPUs were available in either dual core with onboard graphics or quad core with no onboard graphics configurations. The dual core would have been able to support hardware accelerated decoding. The quad core could not. So there was some tricky stuff with respect to making sure you had a configuration that was going to work with Steam in home streaming. So now seeing Nvidia and Valve work together on this, I now have complete confidence that whether you're going to run Windows or you're going to run Steam OS. People who run AMD. People who run AMD are still going to be okay because Valve is going to work with AMD as well. Because AMD doesn't even have a competing solution. They don't have free stream or whatever it is they would call something like that. You think they will? You know they would. So many people have actually just gone with Nvidia and like completely abandoned AMD. It's funny you mentioned that because the market share isn't that much different than it was five years ago. AMD has always kind of been in that 20 to 35 percent range of the discrete desktop GPU market. That's all they really got. AMD free stream. We have to start that. We have to make that happen. We have to tell AMD that they have to have like a free hold handheld and then they have to have like AMD free stream. And that should be awesome for the AMD people. I'd be really interested to see Valve. I mean I'm hoping that this is an announcement they make in the next six months to a year. But it would put the final nail in the Nvidia game stream coffin for me if Valve released an Android Steam client. And I see them potentially heading this way already. They ported Portal to Android. They ported Half Life 2 to Android. They already have a Steam app. So how far are we away from Steam being your gaming hub potentially on Android as well with all of these other fantastic Steam features? Like running natively on Android or being streamed? Running natively on Android. That's what I'd like to see. Because then with Valve behind it, I mean all the respect in the world to the Limelight guys. Every time I've used Limelight, the latency has not been comparable to Nvidia Game Stream. Valve on the other hand, I have faith that they could make that happen. And they could make streaming from your PC AMD powered, Nvidia powered, Intel on board powered who cares? I think they could make that a great experience streaming to any device that has a beefy enough H264 decoder chip on board. Apparently Nvidia did the ports. Nvidia did the ports themselves? Don't think so. I know that Nvidia was deeply involved in the ports, but Valve was also involved in porting those games. And even then, I mean the fact that Valve was even willing to entertain that. Hmm? Hmm? I don't know. We'll see. I mean it's going to be a big battle for what is the next gaming platform of choice beyond the PC. And beyond, really not so much the PC because I don't think the PC is going anywhere, but beyond the console. It's either going to be some type of lightweight PC, something like an Alienware Alpha or something like any other sort of lightweight desktop type machine running Steam OS or some other Linux derivative or even Windows, or it's going to be Android. And if you look at the overall strategy, Valve and Nvidia both obviously believe in different things here with Valve thinking we're heading the direction of Steam PCs or whatever they want to call them and Nvidia thinking we're headed towards Android. But I don't think either of them really minds if it's the other one or some mix of the two because Nvidia can still sell you GPUs over here and Valve can still sell you games over here. So I wasn't listening at all. I was reading Twitch chat. Did they say anything interesting or are they just telling you to poke me more? Something about your crotch maybe? Ah yes, my crotch. My crotch is definitely one of the top subjects of discussion on the stream today. Love it. So originally posted by Mech777, the articles from hardware360.com. I'm just going to go ahead and fire this baby up here. Witcher 3 dev promises only 30 FPS on consoles. Although the funny thing about this is that they basically said, okay, we're going to be aiming for the highest resolution possible, but full HD 1080p would likely not be possible. And the only thing they could promise was 30 FPS. So essentially, even though there have been some complaints about there being a console release, at least what the PC Master Race subreddit can take some consolation in is the fact that the experience on the console is going to be significantly degraded. Is David still here? David? Yeah. David, can you get the door when it rings in a minute? Thank you. UPS is outside. I think they've got a Cooler Master power supply for Edzel's new dual Titan 12 core editing workstation. Is that where it is? Yeah, that's your new power supply, man. And something else. Ah yeah, David's going to grab it. Can you just say hi to the UPS guy? I don't think he can hear me. I think he's got his Bluetooth headset in. Have you ever really gotten into a Witcher game? Yeah, I love the Witcher games. Hey, tell me what's appealing about them. I've tried with both Witcher 1 and Witcher 2. Enlighten me. I find that the character interactions are above the standard that you might be used to for most games. The main character is actually kind of shitty. No offense to the voice actor or the writers, but... Isn't that by default? Isn't that who you just offended? Saying no offense doesn't make it unoffensive. Okay, fine. Full offense to anyone involved, but Geralt is kind of a shitty character. He's always deadpan and... I don't know, he's just not a very good character. But everyone else is a good character and they develop and their interactions with you are interesting. It's all based on novels. So they are actually fleshed out. And just playing in that world that actually exists in detail somewhere is nicer than other games. That's what I like about it. How they create their creatures, they have lore, you can read up on them, so on and so forth. Hey David, could we actually get those things? Yeah, do you mind? I just want to find out what this is. I'm hoping it's Dominator Platinum DDR4. And we can show that to you guys. Okay, because I have tried both times and within... Actually the funny thing is with Witcher 2, I even got like an hour and a half in because I was looking for a consistent benchmarking spot and I just... I did not find it compelling at all. Thank you sir. Well do you like fantasy RPGs anyway? I made it all the way through Dragon Age. One? Uh, yeah, Dragon Age 2 I did not find nearly as compelling. That was kind of shitty compared to this one. Dragon Age 1 was really great though, I really enjoyed it. I don't have a knife. I do. What is this? Who's it from? Ooh, it is from Corsair. But I don't know what it is. It doesn't feel heavy enough to be Dominator Platinum's. Okay, chat, guess what it is. Let's play a guessing game, live unboxings! Okay. Oh am I not supposed to swear? I don't care. Okay. Try not to drop F-bombs all over the place, you know? Oh it's the new Corsair Link thing. Cool. So this is supposedly a pretty big improvement over the old one. Wow, it's much lower profile. I don't know how much they've shown of this yet, so I'm gonna just kind of put that back in the box for now. But uh, cool. So we're definitely gonna check that out. And then the other one. Here, you wanna do the honors? I like how you just toss things. It's not fragile. It's Corsair. It's made by Corsair, so it's pretty good. Unlikely to break. We've actually thrown Corsair power supplies out of cars and dropped them off roofs. Speaking of great power supplies though, this is one of the finest power supplies available on the market. 80 plus platinum, 1200 watt, fully modular. So this is a V-series power supply from Cooler Master because we realized as we were building the rigs for the whole room liquid cooling setup that we had asked Cooler Master for 750 watt power supplies with the assumption that I was gonna be getting one of the Titan blacks. Well, after much debate and much concealment of the actual plan. There wasn't much debate. Nick and I are just like, yeah, let's give me the Titan. Yeah, so I ended up with an old GTX 285 that we had lying around somewhere in my rig and Ed ended up with two Titans and we kind of went, shoot, is 750 watts even enough? Probably not. So, cause he's got three graphics cards in there. What is it? Two Titans and a Quadro. Yeah, two Titans and a Quadro plus the 10 gigabit ethernet card plus the 12 core processor. So we're talking about the kind of rig that these types of power supplies are legitimately made for. Actually we should actually like measure how much it actually takes. We should measure like when you're dinking around in Cinema 4D, we should have a look at what kind of power consumption when you're hitting the RAM, the GPUs and the CPU all at the same time. CPU doesn't get used that much during octane. Oh, that's right. Yeah, it's all GPU. You know what? I'm gonna give the floor to you while I go get a drink of water. Would you like one too? Can you get my energy drink in the other room? Sure. Yeah, I'll grab your energy drink. But I want you to justify because people haven't really, I think, been able to understand why anyone could possibly need a 12 core CPU, 64 gigs of RAM, dual Titan blacks and a Quadro in one machine. Can you justify what the heck it is you do around here that you need that kind of power for? I'll be right back. So justify that. Okay. Where to start? Where to start? All right, so for the 12 core processor, well, I use After Effects pretty much exclusively these days. No, that's a lie. Most for the big projects like the build guides, I guess that's it these days. I use After Effects to do motion graphics for the intro, the lower thirds. And then I've also started to use Cinema 4D and I have the Octane render engine, which is fully GPU accelerated. So to put this, to, I guess, size this up against each other, my six core processor would render a frame in about six minutes. One GPU would render one frame in one minute, 30 seconds. I'll be back. Actually, I'm not quite ready yet. Two GPUs would be around 45 seconds. I can't do math. So three, bound to be what? 20 ish, 25 seconds. Someone do the math for me, please. Porn. Why are we talking about porn? I don't get this. Yeah, it's one frame in six seconds or six minutes because it's like 3D ray tracing. No, it's actually like photon something or other, but it's definitely more intensive than 2D video. Would you like to sit back down? Yeah, sure. I noticed in my absence, you just completely took over the entire couch. Awesome. So, have you made it through all of the components yet? I don't think I've justified the RAM yet. Okay, so in After Effects, to use multiprocessor rendering, you have to assign each core some RAM. Ideally, you want to assign it three gigs each. I don't have enough for that. So I assign it two gigs. That's what, two times 12, no, 24 because it counts the separate threads as a core. Right, so 48 gigs. So that's 48. I guess I could do, no, that brings it up to 72. You didn't used to be able to do it because you had six cores, 12 threads. 12 times 3 is 36 and you had 32 gigs. Whereas with the new 64 gig config, you'll have 24 threads times, yeah, you still won't have enough. Yeah, I can still only assign 12 gigs to it. Yeah, but you know what we could try as an experiment? We could try turning off hyperthreading because hyperthreading will give you probably a 10 to 15% boost, but you might get more of a boost by being able to assign more RAM to your cores. Interesting. We should play around with that. That's going to be cool. Anyway, so Mac users have allegedly disabled some cores, but that's not hyperthreading. You can, oh, because the Mac Pro only has four memory slots, but then you can load it with ECC RAM, so hmm. I still have more slots on there, right? Yeah, you have eight slots. You could get more RAM. Yes, ASUS has a beta BIOS for the X79 Deluxe that supports 16 gig DIMMs, but only certain ones, not the ones that we originally obtained for the project. Okay, so sorry, you were justifying why you need all the... Well, I justified the Cinema 4D just because linear performance scaling with graphics cards, which is amazing. I think I need two more Titans, honestly. Take the cost of a Titan, right? And then... A thousand dollars. Not how many hours an extra Titan would save me in rendering. In the one project we've ever done. One so far. It could be more. If I could do things faster, I could do more of those. And that's how I'm trying to justify two more Titans. Well, you've got two. Why don't we see how it goes from there? Anyway, so because of him, I don't even have a display port output. So my LG monitor is running on a DVI to HDMI adapter and HDMI in at 50 Hertz. So I'm going to have to obtain some other kind of GPU for my system. And when that happens, I guess around the same time, we're going to add another pump to the whole room setup so that bleeding air from the system is much, much easier. Because right now, the only way to bleed the air from the lines that go down and then up to each system from the top of the room is to disconnect all the other systems so that the main pump is only pushing through one system so that we can get all the air bubbles out. But what's cool is the way we have it working right now, none of the systems even have pumps on. So if we could close the door to the server room, the fans are running. You still want fans running, but we wouldn't have to have them all running. So the way that it's set up right now, if we could close the door to the server room, we could actually have the room be extremely quiet. It's just very cool. How loud is the rad? Not bad. Not bad. But what I'm thinking is we might get a variable power supply. So we could dial it into eight volts or something like that. Because with 20 Noctua industrial NFF12 fans and then five quad radiators, it's way more than enough for the systems that we have in there. We actually had it running passively for hours today with three of the systems idling and ED's 12 core priming. And you managed to raise it what, like two degrees? What, unpassive? Yeah. Passive. I felt the fans even running. 100%. It was 48 degrees Celsius. Idle was 30. Yeah. I mean, but when you had it priming, it went up to about 50 degrees Celsius max, right? It was about the same. Was it about the same? Okay. Maybe we didn't even manage to increase the temps. But I'm thinking in the winter, we may not have to disconnect from the whole room system. What we might do is just turn off all the fans. And then if we have enough or turn on only a few of the fans. So what I'm thinking is as like a phase two, if Luke and I could find a way to have a temperature controlled switch for each bank of fans. So as water temperature reaches X degrees, another bank of fans turns on. And as it reaches X degrees, another bank turns on. And then they turn off to prevent the entire water cooling system from getting so cold that we have condensation problems. So that could be like a phase two where it actually intelligently maintains its temperature at a specific setting. Can you set a fan curve without the PC connected to it? Yeah, there would be a way. Actually, yes. A T balancer can be configured with extra mini controllers. And those will run. Oh, I getcha. You program them. So you don't actually have to have the software interacting with it. That could even work. It's so stupid. It might just be brilliant. This is getting stupid. They're just stupid. I love it. Oh, I'm excited. Oh, we had someone in the Twitch chat figure out the T balancer thing before I said it. So we got to give them a shout out for that. Who is it? Who is it? Where are you? I can't find it because I don't have that stupid plugin installed in my browser. So I can't scroll up. Anyway, good job. You know what? We should probably do our sponsor spots before we completely run out of time today. So first up is Five Four Club. So guys, to be clear, the Five Four Club offer has actually changed a little bit. So now instead of saving $15 on your first package, they are actually going to send you all the clothing that you ordered and they're just going to put cash money in the box for you. $10 cash. So it's actually cash like dollar bills or whatever. That is that is it. So rather than like an online discount, they're offering $10 cash back in the package. That doesn't make any sense. Like, okay, sure. Why not? So guys, the whole thing with Five Four Club is that it takes the effort out of shopping. So I'm just going to pull up their site so I can show you guys how the whole thing works. Do do do do do. Here we go. I'm going to go to screen share. Actually I should probably move that. There we go. Shopping sucks. Let us take care of making you look good. Now Edsel, you enjoy shopping, correct? I love shopping Linus. You know me so well. I thought you do like shopping. You like wearing nice clothes. Yeah, I guess. Okay, so even even the ones who like wearing nice clothes, apparently I really I thought you enjoyed shopping for clothes. You wanted to go shopping in Vegas when we were there the first year. Yeah, but there's not there wasn't much else to do. Like outside of outside of the parties. Just like what is in Vegas besides gambling. I hate gambling. So the way Five Four Club works is every month they send you a package of clothes so you can look and feel great. You take a quick survey. It takes literally less than a minute. Luke and I both actually timed it. See, I'm actually you know what? That's what we're going to do today. We are going to do the survey. In fact check this out. They even put a timer in the corner so that you can you can realize as you finish that you took less than a minute to do it. So what should we go for? Okay, I'm gonna have you do the survey. I do business casual. Yeah, hold on. I actually really like the Five Four system just because. Okay, you want business casual? Yeah. Okay. All right. Can I get this? I scroll down the page. What's your favorite color to wear? Hmm, it's a bit of fall now, right? So maybe a red or brown. No, it's a bit of blue. What does blue have to do with fall? Okay, what's your second favorite color to wear? Let's go with the gray. Let's go with the gray. Third favorite color? Hmm, let's go with brown. Okay, brown. And then what is your top size? Medium. Medium. What is your bottom size? 32. All right. 32. 32, what is your bottom fit? Hmm, straight. Straight fit? Yep. Shoe size? Oh, geez. Nine. What shoe? You're probably about a nine. Yeah, okay. Okay, and then which do you like more? Striped. Both striped? All right. What is your second favorite shirt type? Solid. Solid. All right. So you're not a plaid guy is what you're trying to say. Raw or washed for your jeans? Raw. Gotta love the raw. Okay. What denim style do you prefer? Fashion. Fashion denim. T-shirt preference? Fashion. Fashion. Okay, and shoes. Oh, they're both. Now let's go with boat shoe. Boat shoe? All right. So there you go. Total time elapsed, 101 seconds. All right, so it took us a little longer than 60 seconds. But the main point is on your first time you get $10 cashback, so sign up at bit.lee.slash.linus.ffc.nz.nz. And you get $10 cashback. All right, so I'm gonna go ahead and start the show. So I'm gonna go ahead and start the show. So I'm gonna start the show. So I'm gonna start the show. So I'm gonna start the show. So I'm gonna start the show. They actually reached out to us and said, a whole bunch of our viewers signed up. In the next couple minutes, I'd like to hear from any of you who signed up for five for club Go ahead and tweet with hashtag Linus five four Not because I'm five foot four inches tall. I'm much taller than that. What's the offer code? Sorry, so when I split the offer code was Offer code is Linus. I believe five four Linus. Let me just double check. I Do I really love the five four system just because like I Don't have time to go shopping like during the weekdays just cuz I leave here at six. No 530. Oh Apparently we've used hashtag Linus five four before already then For those of you just tuning in Luke is off at packs. I'm Edzel at at Edzel Yago on Twitter. I guess me doing that doesn't really do anything does it? I don't think so. Yeah Follow me Alright I'm posting the link guys. Just make sure you use the link below I'm posting the link guys. Just make sure you use the link and I believe offer code is Linus So give that a try. All right, and then so yeah, if I'm gonna see if anyone has actually tweeted with the hashtag Hashtag I want to hear what you guys think of it Linus five four Do I did caps lock so 22 seconds ago? All you did was use the hashtag you didn't actually tell me what you think of it Okay, so maybe we'll come back to this later. But in the meantime Twitter is hard I know Twitter is so difficult our second sponsor this week is Hyper X memory so they are actually our gold sponsor for our packs prime coverage Luke and Brandon are down there at the show and Hopefully having a ton of fun bringing you guys a ton of great coverage over the next I guess it'll be Saturday Sunday, Saturday Sunday Monday All the packs prime coverage should be landing. So they're gonna be covering some game stuff They're gonna be covering some of the hardware stuff and you guys should definitely definitely get excited about that I think Luke is gonna be trying to get all of his work done in the first I think what was he trying to do? Trying to get all of his work done in the first two days and then try to spend a bunch of time gaming So if you're gonna be down in the BYOC down at packs prime Definitely go say hi to Luke and Brandon. They're both gonna be there. Nick's gonna be there as well and Luke Actually has my computer down there So if you've ever wanted to see my personal rig in person and you're gonna be down at packs and you're gonna be in the BYOC That's basically gonna be the requirements he didn't have time to fix up his spots would test bench and He asked if if he could build up a rig from some of parts around the office and I was just like Well, I got a newborn. I'm not gaming this weekend. So Yeah, I guess you can just take my rig. So I thought that was pretty darn cool All right, so Just as did it in 14 seconds. Someone did what did the 5-4 thing in 14 seconds? Yeah, I don't think they actually chose things right or they might just be like That's kind of fun maybe for our next maybe for our next 5-4 integration thing. We should actually make that a contest Let's see who can do the 5-4 survey in the least amount of time Just so you know guys the pricing for 5-4 so per month is 60 bucks They send you a sticker price of sorry. What's up? What's the 5-4 hashtag? Oh, oh, sorry. Sorry. Sorry I'll post that Okay, so hashtag Linus 5-4 guys So hit us on Twitter with that. I want to hear what you think of the service now that you've been using it So it's 60 bucks a month and then you get a total value of $100 worth of clothing and then the first month They're just gonna send you $10 in the box. So you get effectively a $10 discount on your first month Oh and something I should mention about HyperX's sponsorship for Pax Prime is they really wanted me to tell you guys yo Check out their YouTube channel because they've been doing a lot of really cool stuff on it lately So you just go to youtube.com slash I think just hyper X works now as well No, it doesn't so youtube.com slash Kingston hyper X And they've been doing a bunch of really cool stuff so aside from just like Yeah, you know here's some really great memory and headsets and USB drives and stuff You should probably you should probably try it out. They've also got a bunch of really cool content. That's like bloggy style or skits or interviews with pro esports athletes, so They're doing a fantastic job of releasing a ton of interesting content when you compare that to what other brand names tend to do on their YouTube channels where it's like yet another place to put an ad I Think their approach is really stands out from the crowd so I like how They've been doing a lot of a lot of videos or ads with actual Pro gamers. I'm like they're They're not they're not actors so so they're kind of bad. I wasn't sure if I could say that or not But yeah, it's genuine. Yeah, it is genuine. It does help the eSports scene So I do really appreciate that so I mean actually this is this is funny we Check this out. We we creeped them on WAN show last week to have a look at how their YouTube channels growing and They had added. Let's look at their full monthly statistics They had added almost half of their total subscriber count in the previous two weeks or rather month And this time it looks like they've pretty much done it again They have added 20,000 and they have a total of 44,000 subscribers, so they're growing extremely quickly So someone like something that they're doing This is this is funny I've got KGHT 222 in the twitch chat saying that the the $60 a month for five for club is an average of $2 a day for clothing I doubt even Bill Gates spends $800 Okay, Bill Gates. I don't think he's really on top of That fashion thing or I don't think he even cares I think Bill Gates probably spends more than $800 a year on clothing I think he's he might be one of those people who buys like really expensive Polos that are like bulletproof so I wish I could meet Bill Gates I wish I could meet Bill Gates Bill Gates Meet me, please. Yeah, Bill Gates Bill if you're watching man, you know, we'd love to we'd love to have you on the show sometime People are really complaining about $60 a month for clothes like No offense to people but clothes are kind of expensive if you care about like Not looking hopeless Keeping up with homeless. Yeah. Well, no, you can look not homeless without spending all that much money But to keep up with anything It's kind of a lot of work. All right, so we're we're gonna do it We're gonna go unfiltered and have a look at what you guys have to say about 5-4 This will either be a great endorsement for the service or if you guys hate it, then there'll be that Here we go Is better than anyone they sent me clothes in the box without the face of Neptune Gotta love my socks Alright Timothy says they have great clothing Dana says like all things. I don't like the cost of shipping to Canada. Yes 5-4 is more expensive to ship to Canada Okay, Jacob Ingram says I just wanted to say you're pretty awesome Edzel I think you're skipping ahead Sam Palmer says I wish it was available in Australia would love to use the system Rom says love it. Thanks for recommending it and hi Linus Lewis suggests that Linus do the boiling water challenge. Thanks Lewis. I don't jackass thing Okay Amir says I really like the system, but sadly I'm only 14 and constantly changing sizes Actually, I would see that as an advantage if you budget for it and you let because okay The way 5-4 works is they have like a style advisor who you work with directly and who hand picks your clothing every month So they actually have someone that you can contact and be like yo dog. I change sizes. So just throwing that out there It's interesting E 10 says did it in 20 seconds All right Brian asks try to make the service available in the UK Short sweatpants and graphic t-shirt. They don't have my style. I like shorts sweatpants and graphic t-shirts. Is that a style? I don't know that sweatpants and graphic t-shirts are a style. I think that might be your issue Sam Says the guy who wears socks and sandals I don't wear sweatpants Have you ever seen me wear sweatpants I want to say you have but I think I did once I was sick All right Something oh, sometimes you walk around in pajamas. I think that's near recent. Oh at home. Yes I've actually done videos in my pajamas Jack says love the surface Brett says come to Australia. Okay, I think we've given 5-4 enough screen time at this point They should be pretty they should be pretty happy because we've like blabbed about them forever See, this is the problem. We always start talking about like the sponsor value-add and then it's like this is a good discussion topic Clothes are overrated. All right. I'm letting you deal with this one It was originally posted by Moose on the forum and the original articles from computer and video games calm, but Nintendo says goodbye to casual gamers. What exactly here? I'm just gonna bring up the article before I hand you the laptop That's what it looks like. What exactly do they mean by that? Well, whoa that didn't work Oh Which didn't work The article oh, no, no, that's okay. The article's gone. Well apparently because smartphones and Apple in particular is taking over the casual gaming market and the casual gaming market they don't really see a need to to Okay, nobody keep Keep making games for the casual gaming market, which makes sense because you'd be competing with people who don't really want to play games anyway, but unless it's convenient so I Like the direction they're going with this. I don't like it at all Why not you look at one of their most successful products in the last ten years the DS? The DS was all about the casual experience for me. I played more Bomberman on my DS than anything else But you've also played games like What is it bravely default? Yes How did you like that really default was good until it completely crapped the bed? Okay But Okay, let's ask the chat. How many of you guys are or like casual games? Okay here do you guys think Nintendo still has a contribution to make to casual games or Should they focus on the stuff that looks casual in terms of the art style like Mario Kart and Smash Brothers? But is actually extremely hardcore in terms of the game balancing and the gameplay So there why don't we do a straw poll here? Do you want to fire up? Do you know how straw poll works? Yeah. Yeah, make up make up a straw poll I want to I want to hear from you guys Does Nintendo still have a contribution to make or do you just want them to focus on what I mean? Really? They're very good at you know, Zelda I would make the argument that in spite of how cartoony something like ocarina of time might have looked is Definitely a gamer title not a casual title Okay Go ahead and post that you just have to kind of span it a little bit and do the permissive vote. Yeah. There you go I'm totally I have I have one more straw poll in mind before the end of the show that I'm totally gonna blindside you with It's gonna be fun. All right, spam spam spam what people say ocarina is cartoony. Yeah Come on Little fairy Where they put that Yeah, the twitch chat just moves really fast. I mean my straw poll tab. There we go. Boom JJJ says Linus. Do you see this? No All right, let's go ahead and screen share here. So, okay And Super Smash Brothers. Yeah, I love Super Mario Kart I play it with the NCIX guys like every week and then like we go to Chris's and then play it some more that's definitely not a casual game just because I know it's freaking hard and It's great. Love it. I I probably spend more play more time playing Super Mario Kart Then it means Mario Kart Mario Kart. Yeah, sorry That's why I started but the Super Mario Kart on SNES. I I on consoles I've played that more than any other game on a console really Yes that much. Yeah, so would you say that? Okay, so because the Wii's whole value add was supposed to be Wii Fit and Wii Sports But they're terrible flinging the Wii mode around. Okay, so that was the Wii so so if Nintendo's direction is okay Wii U we're gonna go back to 1080p 60 FPS and 60 FPS and hardcore titles could you be sold a Wii U? If they made more hardcore titles, yeah if they did more Mario Kart Class titles on the Wii U would you consider buying one? If no one else in my like group of friends had a Wii U Then yes, like honestly for Mario Kart. I would just buy a Wii U just for Mario Kart. It's a really good party game Okay, so that's so that's it. That's the issue then because okay from so far. That is kind of an issue because From a business standpoint if the objective is to sell more copies of the game and more consoles Are they gonna be doing themselves any favors by eliminating? Casual games in favor of I mean arguably the two examples that we came up with of great Nintendo hardcore titles party games Well So you're asking whether or not it's better for Nintendo to make party games and sell fewer consoles than Casual games and sell more like yeah, like do you have any stats for that? No, no, I don't no I don't I'm just saying that it feels like a problem that the titles that you and I are discussing that Could sell the console to us Our titles that really only one person within a group of friends really needs to own Unless you're gonna be unless you're gonna be one of those people like Luke who sits and practices Mario Kart So that when everyone comes and plays with him, he just wrecks everybody Those people are bad people by the way people who practice party games You know, I think you're all bad people Anthony and Chris Probably Jack. I mean maybe two probably better than Luke at Mario Kart really? Yeah, even though you didn't know the name of the game Mario Kart doesn't matter if there's super on there or an 8 on the end same thing same thing Actually Chris's girlfriend amazing at Super Nintendo's Mario Kart really? Yeah ridiculous All right. All right. Well, you know what? We will have to do we will have to do some game streaming sometime Sometime maybe we'll go over Luke's house or something or yeah, we could yeah, we'll play something bring all We'll play some Mario. I have a LAN PC No, no Mario Kart. Oh, you'll have to show us your you'll have to show us your skills We'll have to see how that goes You know what's funny though is we could actually do PC games streaming from the office now Everybody's work machine is now legit a legit Gaming rig I need to SLI that oh, yeah We never put an SLI bridge in your machine. Well in theory you wouldn't need it Whatever I need Have you played Belfield? Have you played Belfield? I Have I played battlefield for yeah, not really. I played a little bit of the single-player and got bored I'd borrow those the Titans you want to borrow the Titans. How are you gonna get them out of the machine? Scissors. Yeah, that's what I thought. No Absolutely not. So I SLI the first time last week with seven dual 770s Battlefield is running. All right, but I am Using a two-year-old 8150 that Linus gave me for free when I started interning for my NCI Tech tip. That was like two years ago. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, and apparently the 8150 is bottlenecking my 2s like hearts yeah, that 8150 was uh that was like that was like the the the bitch chip even then and You gave it to me for for my hard work Yeah, thanks Linus. Hey, you got RAM and a motherboard and I'm pretty sure a GPU at some point. So yeah, it wasn't all it wasn't all terrible All right. So razor cortex their deals video game tracker is now in this is an early access right now, correct? Yep. All right. So basically By David by David. So basically one of the best things about being a PC gamer, you know, just ask PC gamers There is no $59.99 I mean there is for like two days or if it's South Park Stick of Truth, man that hurt I didn't buy that till like months after release and it was still $59.99. Anyway, there's no such thing as sticker price There's always a deal So razor has their new cortex game deal tracker It scours the internet tirelessly to let you know of price drop sweet deals and exciting promotions on your favorite games You'll never miss out on another Bargain, so you can sign up for early access and check it out It's in beta and currently comparing prices exclusively in the US region and other regions will come after launch But that is something that you guys are definitely gonna want to check out. Have you have you signed up? No, I haven't really are you going to? I have so many things running already and I like I like steam That's what I thought about it. I thought you know looking at all these features. It looks like steam and GeForce experience it has like the game optimizing tool. Yeah, and it like defrags your system Which I already do it prioritized prioritizes a Things so would you even fire it up to see if there was a deal before you bought a game on steam? Or would you just blindly buy it on steam because you find the steam experience so much better Well, like depends on how it works. Is it going to send me to? any number of dozen sites like I don't want to make a new account for For a site every time a deal comes up and it's right on a different site like One reason I buy games off steam is that it's on steam. Yeah, you know, there's my steam wallet It's just right there or EA origin store ubisoft store. I don't buy anything on there You know, it's like it's right there it's convenient whereas razor doesn't have their store like right How are they going to do this? I'm really interested to try it out. I'm gonna install it I'm gonna try it out and then I'll see how it goes from there Maybe it'll be a disaster But I mean razor has shown that they're pretty serious about building software that makes gaming better I mean comms is a great example of that they saw a gap and they're like Okay, we're gonna build something that legitimately addresses the need that people have So I'm interested to check this out funny that you should mention comms. Dolby axon wasn't working like several times last week The crew and I used dolby axon. Yeah, so we actually used the razor comms It's I think it has more features than I remember and it's kind of nice now. Yeah gotta say. Yep They've improved a lot It's not bad Okay, we've got a couple more topics before we say goodbye because it's quarter after six already here Microsoft claims they are starting to crack down on fake apps in the windows store. This was originally posted by Sherman taker on the forum and the articles from the verge and basically Microsoft says they reached out to devs and Told them that they have to make their dev their their apps compliant with their new guidelines Which are that it can't have an icon that's too close to something that is not representative of what it is I think there were a couple of other things But basically there have been devs that have been able to do that basically there have been devs that are just Like swift key for example if you go to the swift key, you know what the swift key devs I'm gonna yeah, not the swift key devs But if you search for swift key in the windows store, i'm gonna try it now I've screenshotted it from before but let's let's do a live test of whether a scam app that I found Swift key keyboard has eight ratings for one star. That is a four dollar app The award-winning app for android that replaces your on-screen keyboard giving you the fastest and easiest way to type now in windows phone Uh, let's have a look at the reviews Eight ratings Where are the reviews? Here we go. Scam artists do not purchase this. This is fake very unhappy fake app for four dollars This is fake. This app does nothing So apparently they've removed 1500 apps based on how many scam apps I found over the last little bit Yeah, that's probably not enough Developers who refuse to comply with microsoft's new guidelines are getting them removed But I think they've still got a lot more work to do but they're taking steps forward. So that's good They're acknowledging the problem That's all i'm giving them credit for at this point. Well, they they're also dealing with it Sort of I mean the one that the one I tested is still there So we'll see Um, they're originally posted by deletive on the forum the original article here that he's referring to is from hardware 360 And allegedly microsoft will offer the windows 9 upgrade either free or for 20 dollars So microsoft will also have an awesome offer for windows xp users to be clear that price is for windows 8.1 users Another tidbit is that the enterprise windows 9 is Rumored to be completely metro free So metro is the modern ui, you know this one Yay, I can scroll back and forth. Woo, except I don't want to do that. Okay Um, so cheap windows upgrade offers aren't unprecedented. They have done this kind of thing before windows store. Not the windows phone store. Maybe Uh, I believe they are actually integrating them Moving forward so i'm not sure I think there's some stuff that's in both or whatever the case Maybe either way they have to address both of them. They need to acknowledge the problem everywhere You guys should put sponsors Below the stream actually that's not a bad idea. We probably should do that at some point. All right Well, I think that pretty much wraps it up for the show today. Although I have one more straw poll for you guys before we go I'm just gonna create it I'm gonna put poor edzel on the spot What did you think of edzel's? guest co-host Spot. All right, let's come up with some options here. I think it got better towards the end 10 out of 10 amazing would Would love to have him again, okay, let's go with five out of ten Uh got better towards the end and one out of ten Very why are you doing it out of ten if there's if there are options and zero out of ten? lol Okay, so basically basically i'm setting you up for i'm setting you up for failure here And i'm also saving you from potentially their devastating negative feedback because you know They're gonna go with zero out of ten just for the lulls. I've gotten used to negative feedback Yeah, we all have You really just spam it like that? Yeah That way everyone sees it Edzel is too autistic edzel is too autistic. Wow speaking of getting used to all the negative feedback Autism actually isn't a thing anymore. Apparently it's been just brought back into the uh, Oh, no, i'm thinking asperger's you're thinking about yeah, asper autism is definitely a thing I think asperger's has been brought back under the autism umbrella. Yep minus screen share 10 out of 10 amazing would love to have him again has half of the votes With 21 of the votes being five out of ten got better towards the end. Oh, there's a fair bit of zero out of ten lull And nine percent says one out of ten very unfortunate that luke isn't here So it actually looks like the reaction to uh to your co-hosting job today has been pretty darn positive So good job Uh, thank you everyone for tuning into the wandshow So huge thanks to our sponsors five four club as well as hyper x make sure you try out five four club. That's Uh bit dot lee slash linus ffc I think there we go and you get ten dollars in your first package. Yes. They slip ten dollars into your package As well as hyper x check out their youtube channel youtube.com slash kinks and hyper x for some great gaming content Thanks for tuning in guys, and we'll see you again next week. I need a laptop Yeah, you really need a laptop. Give that me a laptop that hurt you big time Being able to see the topics and like look at stuff I just forget how good that looks. I know I love this thing. I did a good job with that Oh, should we uh, should we show them the uh, the vinyl stickers? Oh, yeah, okay. Okay. Very short Very short after party here. We're gonna we're gonna go get are you gonna grab them? Yeah Okay, i'll grab these ones if you want to grab at least one from the other room So we got these awesome Ah, don't break please We got these awesome vinyl stickers for the walls here Uh, this has a paper covering over the top of it. So that's why it looks so faded but it's like, um, I don't even remember what color it is. Is this is this white and orange? Are you sure? I think so. No, it's like a gray. It's like an off-white. Oh, it is white. No, it's white It's white. So it's a white and orange linus tech tips that we have for one of the walls and then Uh ed also did up. Yeah, baby Wan stealth logo So we're gonna put that on one of the walls in the office and finally Yeah, bro fist Can you see it? Yep, sweet There you go um I actually have uh, we've put up one actually here. Do you want to take bro fist and land stealth away before they get damaged? It's not faded. It just has like a sheet of paper Yeah, there's a paper covering over it to keep the multiple pieces in place here. I'm uh, I got them together. There we go Um, actually I have uh an example of what they're gonna look like on the wall. So check this out you guys. It's freaking awesome I think so anyway So this is a sneak preview of what the whole room water cooling setup looks like so far if my uh if my stupid Drop box would automatically upload. Okay, or we could just go to edsles twitter Uh, or we could go to edsles twitter. Do you have a shot of the decals and the uh, and the piping and the systems in from? Just now I have like a bunch of pictures Uh, okay, you try to do that while I try to do this and whoever does it first Is a winner Okay Um so i'm like mailing to myself because Apples and I took the picture on my iphone apples thing is like ah boom super broken Oh, this is your panorama. Oh, okay. Yeah, that should be good. Okay. Oh There broke it Actually, I might like my shot better No, i'm opening my picture. Okay. I'll show this one first Okay So there we go Do you want to just get rid of us? Okay, so that's a panorama shot of the office Um, basically you can see this is edsles workstation brandon's workstation. Here's the copper piping Coming down for each of the systems. This one's going to be for um The potential new employee who i'm going to hear back from this weekend This is for taryn's workstation. This is an extra This is for my workstation and here are the vinyl decals on the wall and then here i'm just going to switch back to This so that I can go into my email So, oh, I just heard from chris from ncix NCIX challenges linus tech tips to mario kart 8. Oh, they're watching. I guess you should have known that was coming Can I be on their team? No What do you think this is you're gonna abandon us in our hour of need they're better Wow Wow It's not it. This is about family. This is not a family Family, this is not okay. Well, all right if we want to talk about family, I do game with them pretty much every night uh-huh with uh voice chat and all versus Just working me over here Yeah, so someone says I should fire edsel actually no one said that that was just what I was thinking Oh, I can't even believe you anyway, so this is uh, this is a not panorama shot Which I personally find a little bit easier to digest because i'm old of Uh, this is Terrence water cooled system right here. Oh, you took that like recently. This is the extra Uh, here's my machine over in the corner running off of this one and then we've got bro fist and wan stealth Sort of centered look at much extra space Uh sort of centered on the wall in there. So yeah, love it. Those pipes look sketchy What looks sketchy about them? Oh, maybe that stuff. Oh, that's just a label. That's a label. Yeah, it's no big deal These are copper pipes that were soldered by luke's dad. So need to be painted needs to be painted No, I don't want to paint them. I like the copper looks cool. Yeah, we have um Like can we polish it? Yes Uh luke's dad gave us this um this stuff that we can use to polish it quite quickly And then we're planning to paint Uh a varnish layer over the top so that they really shine I'm uh, i'm super stoked gonna look awesome. All right guys. Thanks for watching. Peace out. See you next week Ah