 Hey there my friends and welcome to the WAN show. The restaurant? That's not even relevant. A joke isn't just supposed to be random, this is not Family Guy. This is the WAN show, this is a much better show. There was a TGA Fridays in Norway and that was weird. That is kinda trippy. Yeah. Why would there be a TGA Fridays? I would think it would be like... I don't know. I can't even... I don't even know what language they speak in Norway. Norwegian. They have a language? It's like a slightly different version of... Oh, interesting. Anyways, we have some pretty interesting callouts which Linus is going to start, I guess. Or not. Yeah, right. So, good old game... Excuse me, GOG. They're not good old games anymore because they have like Witcher 3 coming out on an Asum or something. They have their own launchers so they're looking to go up against Steam as opposed to being a place where you can buy Hugo's House of Horrors. Microsoft is calling Windows 10 the last version of Windows which either means they've kind of decided, okay, that's it. We've made enough billions of dollars. We're going to pack it in. We're all going to retire. We're going to take all the cash, divvy it up between all the Microsoft employees and... Can you imagine if a company the size of Microsoft did that? They're just like, yep. Dissolved overnight. You know what? We're done. Let's just, you know what? You know Apple, for example. Let's say Apple decided, you know what? We've got 80 billion dollars in the bank. It's more than enough money for the... We make every single one of our employees even like store level janitors just not have to work for the rest of their lives. Yeah, that's enough. I mean, we earned this. Forget it. We don't need a Beats by Dre streaming service anymore. I mean, forget it. Who cares? Let them get their music somewhere else which is actually a topic we're going to talk about later but you go ahead. Anyways, Nintendo is looking into mobile games or potentially looking into mobile games which is interesting and our last call out isn't even really a call out. It's a whole topic. Anyways, Tesla is selling used cars and they're selling them by region so that's pretty cool and the whole topic. Dang it, you gave... There was one piece of the topic left then and you ruined even that. Well, you could technically buy it from a different region but you look on the store and you search by region. Way to go, Luke. You know, I haven't fired you in a while. You go to Vancouver and then you see that there's like a 5% discount. And now you're even... Wow. You're elaborating on the one little piece of information that they were missing from the announcement video. It's because it's Tesla. I can't like... I can talk about this for too long but this is the WAN show so we have potentially more interesting topics to talk about. Potentially. Yeah, I tested it. I think it's like lagging though. Is anyone even watching? Yes. Oh, okay, good. I know, at some point they're gonna... Sorry. Linda! Woo, learn things! Fresh books! Yeah, expense things. Account for things. Yeah. Master off, buy things! Buy things! With the money that you made. So you learn stuff, start your own business and run the accounting for it and then buy stuff with the money that you made from the business. This is a highly disturbing trend that I'm seeing from you is trying to tie all of our sponsors together and then... No, seriously, if you tie in Dollar Shave Club as well, you can look professional when you go to the jobs. And then throw them off an integration cliff. That's what you're doing. You're drowning them all. You're throwing them in the water all the time. Drowning them all in success. Can you imagine... that would be a great channel super fun. Swim while tied together. You'd have to do it in a pool that we wouldn't die in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'd have to have like... you'd have to have kind of... I don't know what you'd have to do. You'd have to have like ropes tied to you that people at the side can like literally pull you right out of the pool if something goes south. And we could put like carabiners on them so you could disconnect from people if it really came back. Yeah, yeah. So, you make teams, right? And each team has to choose the way that... So, okay, okay, okay. So like if you're gonna do the butterfly or whatever? Yeah, so you do multiple heats, right? So each team gets to choose... So let's say we have three teams, right? We've got seven people who work here. Someone's gonna have to operate the camera. So you got three teams. Each team gets to choose a way that everyone has to be tied together. Oh my god. So you do three heats. Oh no. Right? So you can swim however you want, I guess. But if team L, for example, says, okay, you have to be tied together at the waist, side by side, then everyone has to do that once. Oh my god, we have team L because we have two Ls, team N because of two Ns, and then team T because of a T and an E. You're determined to ruin this show today, aren't you? Sorry, that actually sounds hilarious. We should probably do that. So why don't we kick off with some community announcements? We'll have to find a pool that'll let us film at it. I was trying to take a picture of my son at his swimming lesson, and they were like, no, no, no, no, no, and I was like, oh yeah, I guess I get that. Oh. Yeah, it's a camera and stuff. But like, I was clearly like... It's your rent part of a pool. Can you rent a pool? I think so. Because I think you can book a pool just like you can book a movie theater. Okay, you know, we should look into it. It sounds like an expensive Superfun. I think Superfun is probably going to get to the point where we're going to start to rely on something like Patreon for it because quite frankly, we haven't figured out how to monetize it. We just lose money. We lose money every time. We do it because it's fun and because we like it and because we think you guys like it. Yeah, like there's a lot of reasons we do it, but money is not one of them. Like Linus Tech Tips straight up is the swimmer with Channel Superfun tied to it. Yeah. And like swimming in the opposite direction because even something like buying the life size soccer ball thing that I was rolling around inside for the upcoming video, which is going to be fun, by the way. I was going to say, most people don't know about that. Yeah, that's coming. If you follow on Instagram, you'll have seen a picture of the ball. Even buying that ball, it's like 60 bucks. That's more than we're going to make on Google AdSense on that video, to be completely frank with you guys. And then the whole company was out for like two hours, I think. Plus someone's going to spend four or five hours editing the stupid thing. Like that's the amount of money that we just throw in a fire every time we make a Channel Superfun video. But I think that if we did like Patreon funding for it, where we kind of went, okay, every time we make a Channel Superfun, you guys pledge, you know, two bucks or five bucks or whatever. I haven't looked that closely into Patreon. They've contacted me. They've been like, why don't you use Patreon? I was like, well, because we run a lot of advertising on our content. And I think there's... And we do a video every day. So if you're contributing to a per video, then you'll... Yeah, so most people are like Patreon contributors for like 50 cents. They're going to feel like we're like giving it to them pretty hard. And people already give us monthly contributions. We already have a mechanism for that, which keeps our website afloat and, you know, pays for the much more expensive servers that we have now compared to the one that was running off a test bench in the office at NCIX. But I could throw USB drives at... Yeah, oh, it was awful, wasn't it? It was bad. It was really bad. We have like a real server and a real data center now. We have like real monthly software package subscriptions that keep the whole thing running smoothly. It's amazing. It's great. Anyway, I think something like that could make sense. But yeah, we'd probably need you guys to help with it or something. Because I'm thinking the cost of like booking a pool for a couple hours, we need to do something like that. It's not going to be cheap. Okay, so why don't we move into our first topic of the day. And we can do that as soon as I plug in my HDMI cable and sincerely hope that it works. Otherwise... Blue screen. Oh, I'm not hoping for a blue screen. We're actually we're plugged into the black magic intensity right now. Oh dear. Yeah. So that blue screen could straight up happen. So our first topic is why Microsoft is calling Windows 10 the last version of Windows. The original article here is from The Verge. Look at that. Why is the webcam? Oh, right. Because seven is here last week. So why Microsoft is calling Windows 10 the last version of Windows. Now to be clear, the joke we made earlier about maybe they're just packing it in and they're going to give all the money to all the employees and tell them to retire. That is not what is happening. Instead, it's going to be... I mean, there's been rumblings of Windows as a service for a long time now, but that there's no confirmation necessarily that that's what we're looking at here. But what Microsoft is saying is that Windows 10 is going to be the end of the of the huge monolithic Windows releases every two to three years and the beginning of much more nimble, rapid updates and not necessarily to the OS as a whole or even as a piece of software. Because an OS is not a whole. But even to just individual components of it. So for example, they could update something like Xbox or they could update mail, for example, and they could continue to evolve the functionality of the OS with smaller updates over time. Now, they have set a precedent now for Windows 8 users getting the update to 8.1, which I still maintain was not a new OS. I don't even understand why they called it anything other than 8 Service Pack 1. Even 8.1 just have the messaging be like, service packs are gone. Now it's a decimal point. That would have been fine. I would have understood that. Why do we insist on just insisting it's a different operating system? But there's an update to it. So that like no, just stop anyway. Windows 10 though, they're offering a free update. And I guess you can also roll up to Windows 10 from 8.1 and you can even revert it, which is not the same as any service pack I thought that was awesome. Anyways, so Windows 10 is the first time we've seen them roll out a major update for free. So I guess the question here is, are we going to see 10.1, 10.2? Is that just hilariously close to Apple's OS 10 with iterations? Is that what they're going? That actually just occurred to me. That's pretty funny. Every operating system will now be 10. Android 10 point M&M and Nair. I wonder if they'll just get rid of public naming like everyone else seems to be doing with everything, which is like not okay with hardware. But anyways, I wonder if they'll just get rid of public naming because eventually if they keep iterating like they did with 8, so 8.1 and then keep going on from there, they'll eventually run out of numbers. Like they actually ran into with Windows 9 where their internal software stuff went above the and there's stuff that they could have done. And like Apple ran into when they ran out of caps. No, really. That's why it's Yosemite. They ran out of interesting caps. I mean they could have gone with like, you know, OS 10 Tabby. But I don't think anyone would have been that impressed. Or when you buy like when you buy the entire ecosystem, then you can you get like an free upgrade to OS 10 Cat Lady. Comes with a cat sweater and a cat bed, which they won't use and it comes with four cardboard boxes, which they will use. That's right. What are we even talking about anymore? I don't know. We were talking about Windows 10. Right. Okay. So yes, it's unclear how Windows as a service, like if you were to have to buy a subscription for it will play into this. It's unclear if they plan to monetize it through the App Store, if they plan to finally do a way better job of that, which is what would be required for them to monetize Windows through the App Store in any meaningful way. I personally am kind of looking at it as like, okay, well maybe we... Also thank you to Lord Spirkelbottom. Yes for posting that topic. You know, I can see them not necessarily charging for Windows, but kind of subsidizing Windows development with OneDrive, your OneDrive subscription and with your Office 365 subscription. But it seems like you're so far away from that. And I would personally rather be able to use whatever version of those services I wanted and have it integrated so that I could easily do that and just pay for Windows. I mean, the fact that Office 365 stubbornly insists that I use OneDrive for cloud save means that I just straight up don't use cloud save because OneDrive is just not as convenient for me to use as Dropbox. And so... Well, we do use cloud save. We just use the local file manager to save it into the Dropbox folder instead of the nicely integrated cloud save feature, which should be open to everything. Which exactly. I can't... like I understand... We're even paying for that. Yeah, I am paying for Office 365. So if I decide I want to use a different cloud storage service, you know what? I should be allowed to. I should be allowed to use Apple's cloud storage if I feel like it. So yeah, I mean, I guess unless they can find a way to make everything so neatly and beautifully integrated that I don't even want to use anything else, then we're a long way away from that. But it's not that. There's little stuff that Microsoft just still doesn't get. Someone thought it was hilarious to sign up my Hotmail account for... They used one of those... I mean, it's not like this is exactly a new prank, but they used one of those pages where you can sign someone up for daily inspirational Bible verses and you can sign people up for boatloads of them at once very conveniently with sites like this. So I don't actually monitor the email account. So I didn't realize until I fired up an old smartphone that I haven't used in a long time that happens to be logged into that account and I was watching a video on it and I was hearing notifications like every five or 10 seconds. I was like, what's going on? That's kind of weird. Where are these even coming from? And so I finally figured it out. That Hotmail address had 55,000 unread emails in it. So compared to Gmail, where that would be really simple. I would create a search for a domain. I'd go at this, contains, create filter, apply filter to all previous conversations. I would press one button and everything would be gone. For Hotmail, they have a feature called sweep. So you highlight a message, you press sweep and then it deletes and you can select block feature messages, but only that exact matching email address. And I'm sitting here going, why? A lot of these aren't going to match. Why? Yeah, a lot of them aren't going to match because- Because content filters. That's why I don't have 15,000 emails from CES every year. Yeah. It's because of content filters. Filtering is not just good, it is absolutely necessary. I mean, it's not like I'm saying that Gmail is perfect. In fact, is this ever going to load? There we go. Okay, so I think I can screen share with you guys right now. Should be fine. Yep. I'm going to screen share with you guys. So I mean, there's stuff like this that drives me crazy about, you know what? I am going to make sure of something before I go ahead and start typing. So no, that's fine. So you know, like- Okay, well, you know what? Forget it. There's a couple things that Gmail does that drives me crazy. Like if you do a search in the top bar in Gmail for just the sending domain, it doesn't work. And it's just like, really? I can't just search for keyword Nvidia and have that bring up anyone who emailed- No, it has to actually contain Nvidia in the body of the email. Another thing is- Oh wait, no, I could be wrong. Hold on. No, maybe it's when I start searching for- No, no, that's fine. Maybe it's- Right, yes. That's what it is. When you start typing in the address bar, you can't just type the domain. So if I just type Nvidia, it doesn't bring up a list of all the people that I've corresponded with who have an email at Nvidia.com. And I'm kind of sitting here going, why? How is it possible that it doesn't search the entire email address field for something like a keyword like that? I use that all the time. So there is stuff that drives me absolutely bananas. Another one that drives me crazy is I email myself a lot. And if I type in- and this is a funny one. If I type in Linus at, it still doesn't come up with my own email address. It still populates with a bunch of other people that are also on my company domain before my own. Apparently if you go from colon Nvidia, it works. But that's just- That's stupid. Why should I have to do that? Yeah. I'm aware that I can go on Google and I can go site colon blah blah blah. And there are ways to, yes, use search tools much more powerfully. But I really shouldn't have to do something that obvious. So let's go ahead and move on to our next topic here. What is our next topic? Apple wants to kill free music streaming apps like Spotify and the Beats relaunch. Posted by Tangra. Tangra. Tangra. Original article here is also from The Verge. I don't know whether or not Tangra is like the little fast monkey enemy who's like speedy or like the Tangra, like the big beastly enemy. Oh, I'm going to go with irritating. Yeah, Tangra. Irritating little- Yeah, I'm going to go with monkey enemy. Okay. Yeah. So Apple is apparently pushing music labels to kill free Spotify streaming ahead of the Beats relaunch. So this picture is from the, is the famous picture of some super not hip dudes with at least one dude who is allegedly fairly, fairly hip and with it so to speak. I wouldn't personally know much about the subject, but that's from the acquisition of Beats Audio by Apple, the single largest acquisition they've ever made. And the rumor, the word on the street, streets. Was that it wasn't about the headphones. It was rather about the Beats music streaming service that Apple wanted to, you know, sort of get into that business of and sort of leave behind the more traditional iTunes model where users buy individual songs or they buy albums. So they wanted a competitive streaming service. Now it is now known that Apple does intend to relaunch that streaming service and the sort of the Spotify is already speaking out about Apple's business tactics for making sure that it doesn't have any free competitors. So Apple is apparently pushing record labels to influence them and to influence their artists to remove the free options, remove their music from free options like Spotify's ad supported streaming service. So it has to be one of like the least surprising things. Pretty much ever. Taylor Swift has actually come out publicly. I think this was a number of months ago, but I can see if I can find the quote when she pulled when she didn't put her new album on Spotify and I think actually pulled her entire back catalog. Yeah, I think her stuff is still on Google Play Music. I don't have a Spotify account, so I can actually I can check that one, but I can't verify. Yeah. So here's the here's the article on the breakup with Spotify. Let's go ahead and this is from CNBC. Evidently, she's got a good quote in here where basically the long and short of it is there she is. She's got lipstick on. She's Taylor Swift. That's very interesting. But the long and short of it is, you know, music should have a should have a value. We shouldn't be treating it like it's free. So people should pay for it. And I want to protect the users that spent, you know, twenty two ninety nine or whatever it is they spent on the album from feeling like they got a raw deal because someone else can listen to it for free if they're willing to put up with some advertising, which sounds all, you know, fine and good, except that we all know what it's really about. Come on now. Yes. Um. And I mean, that's fine. It's not like we're not also about making money for making our content. It's just you might as well at least be honest about it. You should just say I pulled my music off of Spotify because yeah, so shake it off. So her latest album is still not on Google Play Music either. So she's reserving it for the album, but her back catalog, I believe, still is available on a paid service, Google Play Music. So yeah, you might as well just be honest about what it is. But that is a direction that I can definitely see more artists getting on board with is, hey, you know what? Let's get people back in the habit of paying for music. Maybe it's less, but maybe it's at least something. The hard thing here is that there will pretty much always be a service if someone wants your music for free. There will pretty much always be something. Something. Whether it's YouTube or something else. Well, apparently Apple's putting pressure on labels to remove free YouTube streaming as well, which is also ad supplemented. So the idea is moving away from ad-supported music. And I know that you don't mean YouTube. I know what you mean. And we might as well just speak frankly. If it is too difficult for someone to get the music in a way that they perceive is free or if you remove a convenient option like Spotify. Because let's face it. Because buying music in Canada is brutal. It actually is. It sucks. Buying an album is really actually difficult to do because most of the album stores don't really exist anymore or in very crappy quantities. And getting an actual album is often not available. You can't just buy the mp3s off of Amazon. Remember I wanted the Arctic Monkeys A&M album? Yeah, I do remember that. And someone in the States ended up buying the mp3s and being like, I won't ever listen to them so they're kind of yours here. And gave them to me. And I was like, that's awesome. We haven't actually done this correctly, but I don't know how to tell you this is wrong. Because it doesn't feel wrong, does it? No. It's just stupid. So Spotify currently has 60 million users, only 15 million of them, however, are paid users and the beat streaming service is expected to be full of exclusive content. The new streaming service is expected to debut at WWDC in June. What is WWDC? Worldwide Developer Conference. And I guess that's pretty much all there is to say about it. I think we got to do like a Twitter blitz or something for this. We can talk about oh, oh, oh, yeah. Yeah, like I want to hear from you guys. Will you first don't tweet me yet because I haven't told you what to tweet yet. I want to hear from Spotify users. I want to hear from paid and free Spotify users specifically. So I do subscribe to a streaming service. I don't qualify. If you're a paid Spotify user, I want to I want to hear what you think about artists locking into exclusivity deals with particular streaming services. Because for me personally, a big part of the argument for me paying a monthly subscription to use my stupid data plan to listen to all of my music, which I'm also paying for, a huge part of the argument is that it's a one stop shop. I don't want to start subscribing to Google Play Music for my Taylor Swift and Spotify for my Red Hot Chili Peppers and Beats Music for my whatever, because all of a sudden now we're adding up to maybe I'm spending 25, 30 dollars a month. Well, hold on a second. Well I could just be buying mp3s at a dollar a pop the old way for what I'm now paying for a streaming service. And arguably streaming services do have a value. I find the discoverability of new music is great through a streaming service because I'll hear all kinds of stuff it never would have even occurred to me to look for before. But if all of a sudden I have to subscribe to a bunch of them, that's just that's just sucky because then then I don't even know, you know, what music accessory to buy because maybe my Sono system or my, you know, whatever other music streaming device supports this one but not the other. Now it turns into a fragmented nightmare. So I want to hear from the paid Spotify users and I also want to hear from the free Spotify users. Would you guys be willing to pay if the exclusivity thing didn't happen? Would you be willing to pay for Spotify for the same service you enjoy for free now with ads if it meant that artists like Taylor Swift or let's say you don't like Taylor Swift. I don't care. It's not the point. Artists that you care about whose music you want to hear if they didn't pull their support from the service entirely just for having a free option. So go ahead and start hitting us at Linus Tech on Twitter. Let's let's start getting those replies in and then let's go ahead and move into our next topic and then we'll come back to that. So this is from Alex Goes High and the article is either from straight from the horse's mouth or from the verge. The actual straight from them article is quite good to be completely honest. So maybe we'll go with that. Check it out, yo. Are you all butthurt at Steam or Valve or Valve's Steam? Are you letting off steam about how you feel about Valve or giant bronze statues that I'm kind of happy we didn't make? Yeah, I'm really glad we didn't build anything. We wouldn't have managed to, for those of you who don't know, we had like a reward tier for a crowdfunding campaign we did a while ago where the plan was that we would build a life-size Gabe En statue, which would have been hilarious. But by the time we managed to get the thing commissioned, get the artist out here, get the thing actually built, Valve would have gone from like, you know, the king of the popular gaming companies to they've been doing a fair bit of digging lately. So all right, so you want an alternative? Gog Galaxy, formerly known as good old games. So Galaxy is their new gaming platform that is and get this DRM free. So you can actually have a completely DRM free version of any game that you own on good old games, and you can download that to your computer, play it without DRM and fully optional gaming client that you can use for games that you buy on gog.com. Super cool. The rebrand is for a reason. So it used to be called good old games because it was all old games. I don't know that they were necessarily all good, but they were definitely all old. But that's not necessarily the case anymore. So a big like, you know, major launch title coming up is actually Witcher three, which is not old, might not be good. If you're into the Witcher, it's probably good. But personally, I never really got into the whole the whole Witcher. I never super did. But I have a buddy who's like, it's probably his favorite franchise. I think he's watched I think there's a movie or something. And he's read books. And yeah, so he's really excited about it. There's some really cool features. There's obvious kind of things like optional auto updates and one click installs, which you'd kind of expect from this. But then there is offline support, which is cool, because that's not necessarily true for everything. And the ability to roll back roll back auto updates is very cool. Leaving that for the last one. Were you? Oh, I'm sorry. Roll back updates is awesome. So their their little blurb on this is sometimes game updates break things, which is very true. Thanks to the built in rollback feature, you can restore your game to prior states with just a single click. So even if you just didn't like something, if you're like, oh, they rebalanced this this way, I'm playing a single player game and it nerfed my character. I'm just going to keep rolling around with this overpowered character. You just think, all right, roll back. I think that's pretty cool. For yet, like I just said, a bunch of different reasons. Also, there's backup copy download, which is cool. Their quote on this is want to back up your purchases, we get it for all games. You can download a DRM free backup installer that you can save to an external disk drive or cloud. Also super cool. I love this thing. I'm excited. Honestly, I've been waiting for this for a really long time. So it's pretty cool that it's here. They don't have their in game overlay working yet, but I have two monitors anyways. I'm not too worried about it. And get it not too worried about it. I wasn't paying attention to you. Did you know 2 22 22 is falling on a Tuesday? No, I didn't. Good for you. Anyways, cross play, right? Okay. I want to talk about this cross play enabled games will offer online play between GOG and steam. So I don't remember the name of the game, but there's a game that I bought on Kickstarter a while ago and I cashed in my key before they had steam keys. So I got a GOG key for it and then all my friends bought it on steam and I wasn't able to play with any of them. And it's like a co-op game. So I haven't even played it at all. I got it like a really long time ago because I've been waiting for cross play. Get wrecked. So I'm excited for that. It might actually already be able to be done without the launcher. But either way, I don't know. I'm super stoked for this because I think valves comfy coach has been getting a little bit too comfy and they've been kind of, they've sold a lot of hats and they've got a lot of money and the thing about a lot of money is that it seems to, uh, it seems to turn into, well, how do we get like more of it so that we can build an even bigger money for it, uh, pretty quickly. And it just, yeah, I don't know. It just seems like, it seems like a lot of what we, I wonder if we've been just misinterpreting valve all along. Like a lot of what we, what? Sorry. A lot of what we've misinterpreted as valve just generally being good guys is simply valve being good business guys. So the decisions that they make that please the community, are they doing it because they believe it's the right thing to do or are they doing it because of, you know, famous quotes like Gabe Newell's, um, don't do anything, blah, blah, blah, don't lie to the internet because they'll remember and they'll always catch you, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Is that advice because that's an ethical good guy thing to do or is that advice because it's a business because it's a, your business will not make as much money if you don't do that. So I think there's a lot of room for, for someone to come in and compete with valve. I don't think Ubisoft or EA are necessarily the answer. We need a truly third party service and that's what's interesting about GOG is that they don't make games. So they're not, you're not supporting a competitor's platform. EA doesn't have to align valves pockets to have their game on valves platform and vice versa. So maybe then we might see a little bit less of the sort of, you know, the, the, the, you play fortress and the origin fortress and the steam fortress, maybe at some point in the future, I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon. We will see a bonafide third party option that these guys can feel comfortable launching their games through because there was a time long, long ago when game developers were willing to share their profit margins with a retailer. It was a long time ago. So I don't, I don't think it's that, uh, oh, no, no, I'm totally wrong. Apparently it's owned by CD Projekt red. That's why I made the weird face. Nope, nope. I was wrong. I did not know that. I did not know that GOG was owned by CD Projekt red. I actually didn't know it was an ownership either, but I knew they were like super major in cahoots. That much is apparent. I did not know they owned it. So there you go. There is no, well, then it's okay. So CD Projekt owns CD Projekt red and GOG. So there you go. Apparently. Well, let's move on then. GG! Linus is hopeful, you know, future amazing. So we'll have to wait for something else then. Well CD Projekt seems to kind of want to work with people. Yeah, but it doesn't matter because another game developer isn't going to want to line their pockets because we all see what happened that last time that happened. Yay! So let's go ahead and go to that Twitter blitz that I had said that we would do before. So something about Arctic Monkeys. Yeah. So, you know, no, they should keep the ad supported tier. Right, but that wasn't really the question. The question was if they are forced to, would you pay basically? The problem is that even when you watch ads, you're not making as much money for that person or platform or whatever you want to call it as you would if you contributed directly. Very little. Oftentimes a fraction of a cent. Enough that it can keep them afloat and can probably cover your cost of being on the website. If their name is Taylor Swift and a lot of people listen to it. Oh, I meant for just the hosting service. Oh, I see. But yeah. Alright. Eric Flood, free Spotify user here, seems like a complete money grab. Well yes. Apple's turning into the same institution that they beat. Oh, that is that is actually a pretty spot on. Yeah, I mean, a big part of Apple's pitch was, oh, blah, blah, blah, blah. The way we've always done this with the incumbents with buying an entire album or buying a single for way too much for one song is stupid. We should do an Apple. That's actually really interesting. Apple stuck to their guns about things like the 99 cent song download back in the day because it's not like there couldn't have been premium songs for $4.99 as a single release, for example, on iTunes. That could have been done, but they held steadfast that a song should cost a dollar on the iTunes store. So, the whole thing that they, that's a really good point. The whole thing where you had to pay way too much to listen to music did get torn down by Apple and that was a big step towards online music distribution. So it seems like now that someone else innovated before Apple, they kind of want to dial things back and go back to go back to the old way. Very, very interesting, Mr. Flood. Matthew Harvey says I'm a free user. Spotify for me is too expensive when I can just watch it on YouTube if it becomes exclusive. Now something to watch out for, Mr. Harvey, is that the same pressure on Spotify will also be on YouTube for ad-supported music. Yes. With that said, I mean it's not like Google has made any kind of a particularly well-kept secret out of the fact that they intend to move YouTube towards some kind of a premium platform. They already have, I forget what it's called now, but their YouTube music pass thing that costs about the same as- Music Key, I think. Or Pass or whatever. I forget what it's called. I think Key is right. Something along those lines. So yeah, I wouldn't imagine for a second- My thing with YouTube though, with what he's bringing up, is not even necessarily Vivo or YouTube music or whatever. It's the random dude that uploaded the whole album. And no matter how much YouTube wants to have their algorithms go and take them all out, there always seems to be a few that make it through regardless. Yeah, which is funny because I uploaded a video. And it's funny, the fractal design to find our 4 April Fools video that we uploaded got flagged for content infringement. And the supposedly infringing part of the video was when the rain was falling on the case at the end of the video. And it was like, this song. It is not. There is no song. There isn't even any audio in the video at that point. So anyway, it was a video that got like 300,000 views and the AdSense got ripped off of it. So I was like, can you not please? Did they give it back? I don't know. I didn't look. But by now, no one's going to watch that video anymore. Like, it's just stupid. So anyway, I don't know. It seems to be pretty catch-all-y for certain things. When I watch YouTube, that matters. I turn off ad block like your case. Okay, that's good. Thank you. Not necessarily the topic of conversation right now. For a show about technology, why do you use such a low bit rate and only 30 FPS on Twitch? Canada! Yeah, thank you. We're Canadian and our internet service provider is being a turd. In fact, we've dropped 413 frames on this show alone and we're only streaming at some pathetic, I think about half of our official rated upload speed, maybe like a third of it. There's not much we can do about that right now. We are moving to a new office that will have a 200 megabit uplink. And then we'd better freaking be able to stream properly. We're going to stream whatever we please once that happens. As a free user, I don't care about the paid service, I just ignore the ads. I think what a lot of you guys are missing is that what's happening is the songs you want to listen to aren't going to be there anymore. So there is no ignoring the ads. It's like the song's not there. So I really wanted to get a feel for whether you guys would be willing to pay as free users, but I think maybe I didn't succinctly enough make the point of what I wanted people to do. Let's see if I can... Sure. Alright, so our next topic for the day, Star Wars Battlefront will not have iron sights according to EA. So my initial reaction here, and this is like totally a joke and not what I would really expect them to actually do, but can you imagine a Star Wars Battlefront where you had like scenario missions where you've got like a crack team of rebel commandos, like you've got four or six rebels versus, what is it, 20 player or 24 player? I can't remember anymore. So you had the Imperials, but the Imperials can only hit fire because Stormtroopers can't hit anything, dirt to dirt. So like the rebels can look down a site, but the Stormtroopers just have to be like pew pew pew pew. And they have, so like that could make for a really fun game mode, right? That would be hilarious. And the Stormtroopers have really quick respawns and it's all objective based, right? So the rebels have to plant a bomb in the thing and the Stormtroopers like their guns jam or whatever. Like you make the stormtroopers, they're slow moving, they can't see. They hit their head on doors as they're opening? Yeah, they can get taken, Ewoks jump on them and beat them with like stones and for some reason the- Spam F to get rid of Ewok. Yeah, the armor that they're wearing doesn't do anything for some reason. Like that would be a super fun game mode. That would be awesome. But to just eliminate iron sights in the quote is hilarious. It doesn't say we want to be counter strikers? There are no iron sights in Star Wars on the ordinary blasters, Bach said. You have scopes on some rifles, but there are no iron sights. We're not taking into account what we've done before. I think that would be disrespectful to the fans and to what we're trying to achieve here in response to the fact that their other shooter, Battlefield, does actually in fact contain iron sights. A lot of the things you saw in the game have nothing to do with anything we've done before. Some features of course resemble our other shooters because we want to make the best possible shooter, but in general we've tried to do something completely unique. What did he even say? He said a whole bunch of bullshit. You've watched the movies a lot though. Do they aim down the side of the gun? Of course they do. Then who cares? Not well, to be clear. Stormtroopers can't because the costume prevents them from like the chin. You can't get your chin against the gun. But they do hold the gun like this. Now I actually have from Sheperton Design Studios a Stormtrooper blaster that I'm going to go retrieve now while you maybe do another topic or something like that. Don't worry, I got this. I'm going to go retrieve my Stormtrooper blaster and we're going to find out if it has anything on it resembling sights or if that's even more nonsense than it already appeared to be. Cool, that's exciting. I would love to do another topic for you guys but my laptop is completely lagged out. Just use mine. Alright, I can use Linus's laptop. Oh fantastic. Oh there we go, my laptop is working again. Good timing. So we have another topic in here that isn't actually, it doesn't have any notes on it at all but I'm going to cover it anyways because I just think it's that hilarious. I'm going to try to post it in chat. Let's see if it will work. Okay, so jewelers are starting to plate Apple watches with gold to undercut Apple's pricey edition models. Hilarious. And it looks really good. Like okay, I don't like gold to be completely honest. I would actually rather the silvery model one if I wanted one of them but it looks really good for what it is and I think that's absolutely hilarious. I don't know how much it costs. I don't know how much it costs. Holy Dreams is apparently one of them so it costs about $3,500. Oh my butt's wet. Not cool. How much water was that? A fair bit. Can I see? Yeah, yeah here. Oh wow. Yeah, so. That mostly went on your butt too. Yeah, no it went like it hit the shirt and kind of went down the pants actually. Okay, so that's good to know. So all the water that's on the couch has actually touched your butt. Yes. Yes, it is butt water. I wanted to make sure that it was at least butt water. Okay, what are we talking about? Apple Watch, the guys that are plating it with gold for $3,500. Yes. 24 karat gold. 24 karat yellow gold, 18 karat rose gold or 18 karat white gold. So there is a less expensive service. The one that we've actually talked to is Watchplate which is doing it for $400 which I think is actually a lot more reasonable because when you account for that the Apple Watch has an $85 bomb cost. Whoa, 24 karat rose gold or 24 karat yellow gold which is even better than the spec. I'm not aware of 24 karat rose gold because like the composition of rose gold I don't know if it actually allows for 24 karat. Someone tweeted me about this and I didn't look into it any further. I don't know much about. My point is for something like a mobile device that I, you know realistically you're going to replace at least every couple of generations I think $700 or $800 total is a lot more reasonable than you know $3,000 or $4,000 or $5,000 total let alone $15,000 or $17,000 or however much in addition costs. So I think this is brilliant. A lot of the comments on the thread on the forum were about how Apple is probably going to sue. I don't see how Apple could sue them. I don't think you can. That's like Ford suing someone for painting their car. And they're not selling gold plated Apple watch. That's right. They're selling the service of gold plating a Apple watch. And I actually talked to WatchPlate, the guy at WatchPlate.com. I think they're going to send us an Apple watch for review because we obviously weren't able to get one from Apple because we're us. And it will be, so in much the same way that we do dbrand skinned phones since dbrand provides our phones it looks like we're going to do a gold plated watch and so we'll work in some messaging about the gold plated watch and all that. And anyway, so we're probably going to work with those guys on it and I'm really excited to see it anyway. I talked to him and the background of their company is really interesting. So they actually have other businesses including something to do with motorcycles and stuff too. So they're actually not just a fly by night dude in his garage with some chemicals gold plating things. So that's pretty cool. That's good to know. And he's looked very deeply into the legality of this already and kind of went I... He's got it covered. This is his process. You place your order. You wait for a shipping label which they will send you. When it comes to you, you package up your watch and ship it to them. They gold plate it and ship it back within three days and then you're done. So they're not actually selling anything to do with the watch other than plating it and you're allowed to do modifications for things. Yes. So if they were selling gold plated watches then there's a big problem. Especially if they were calling it like edition watch for 899 or 999 or whatever then it's like there's a trademark infringement. There's all kinds of stuff that Apple can go after them for. This just looks like Apple's gonna have to shut up and take it on the chin and there's gonna be no actual way to differentiate a gold plated cheaper watch from an edition watch on the street and the people who buy edition watches are just gonna have to live with that. So if they were like under the bottom of the watch, did it actually say edition on it? Probably. So like I still think those guys that were going to go out of their way to buy a $10,000 watch will probably still do it. I really wish they'd buy something other than an edition. I'm just not saying it's a good idea. Yeah. I just think they'll actually probably still do it. I guess why do I care? It's not like I think buying a $10,000 watch is a good idea in the first place. Yeah. No I don't. I think it's more of a reason because then they can look down on the people. Like if you see someone, if you're wearing a gold one and someone else is wearing a gold one, you can be like, oh well, is it actually an edition? And then if they're like, no, I just got a gold plated, you go, ah, okay, sure, that's fine. I got an actual edition. I'm on their site right now. I'm looking to see if they show the bottom of it at all. I don't know. Has anyone actually reviewed the edition yet? I don't know. I have no idea. I'd love to see a picture of the bottom just so I can find out. Or if there's something in the firmware that tells us it's an edition, like if you can scroll down to a menu or something. I don't know. I don't see a single picture of the bottom of the watch. It seems like no one's actually that interested in that. That's funny. Anyway, I'm really looking forward to reviewing it. I'm also apparently also courtesy of dbrand apparently going to be reviewing the MacBook 2015. You know what? Here's the way I'm going to tackle it. There's actually a couple different angles that I have in my mind. I'm going to try and use it. I was going to say the only way I think you can do it is use it and actually see how many times you are unable to use it properly. I'm going to keep a tally of the number of times that I needed to. I'm going to have to use it for an extended period. I actually have a couple ideas and content that I want to make with it. One thing to keep in mind is while I believe that his massacre of the product will be just, he is a cable salad power user. Whenever we're in an airport, there's everything you could possibly connect to everything. Whenever we're anywhere, there's everything you could possibly connect to everything. So it will be somewhat of an extreme case. That's insane that like I said, I still think it's just. There's a couple ways it could win me over. There's a couple ways it could convince me. I've heard Apple's touch pads are outstanding. I've used them briefly. I've never owned a MacBook though. So I've used them. They seem great. Every time I've used them, they seem really good. I do prefer a mouse in general, but I also have never owned a MacBook. So a mouse is the kind of thing that I very frequently, I carry one in my backpack. I carry a mouse pad. I very frequently plug a mouse into my laptop. That's what I'm talking about. Like a lot of us might carry mice and mouse pads, but there's not that many people who do that. So I'm going to give it a chance to win me over. I'll give it a chance to win me over, but I'm expecting it to be a massacre. When I was in school, I carried a mouse and mouse pad to every class. Yeah, of course. But like that's us. I don't know how many people will be. So let's see. We'll see how it goes. But I'm definitely stoked on that. It's definitely going to be a lot of fun. I also brought my keyboard. I've got a lot of people telling me. Apparently it says 18k gold on the bottom of the edition. Okay. All right. Thank you very much. I'm going to start engraving them. Then it's a problem, I guess. Maybe. I don't know. No, because you're allowed to engrave anything you want. Yeah. And if you actually spray it with 18k gold, you wouldn't even be lying. Yeah. It would just say 18k. Well, yeah, but I could engrave it with made in space and it's gray. And that's not an infringement of any sort. Made in space, gray, coated with plastic. That would be like 20 karat gold. Like whatever. 24 karat gold. Okay. Let's go to our...oh, no, no. Let's go back a topic. So this is my E18 Blaster. This is from Shepperton Design Studios. They sent this over along with the Stormtrooper armor that we featured in a couple of our videos in the past. And let's have a look here. So now EA has come out and said that some rifles will have scopes. So sniping, for example, will be possible. You're not going to have to hit fire if you're sniping. But I know for a fact that Han Solo's blaster does have a small scope on it, even if it doesn't have an iron sight. And I now know for a fact that the E11s in the original Star Wars and New Hope have a scope and an iron sight. Right there. So EA straight up lied to us again. There's your iron sight. Yes, you can look down it. If you were and you can see the way the scope is mounted is on a gun rail. That scope comes off. There's your rear. There's your front of the iron sight. Bam. That is not a sniper rifle. That is a standard issue assault rifle. And it has an iron sight. EA, QED. Get wrecked. Get wrecked. All right. And that's as close to screen authentic as you're going to find. It's not like they just tacked on iron sights for no apparent reason. Oh yeah, right. We have sponsors for this show. And one of them is Linda.com. Hey, look at that. We got a new mouse. It works this week. Oh, yay. Yay. I forgot about that. Linda.com is used by... Excuse me. Used by thousands of millions of people around the world. Thousands of millions? Except not, because that's a really big number. That's billions. 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There's only two days left. They sold 104 of these. So it's an Ergotek arm and three 24 inch LG monitors. And the price is apparently, what up? $539.99. US. So I think I'm seeing Canadian pricing. Oh, oh, oh, I'm not signed in. It's $539.99 to Canada. Yeah, I'm not signed in. So it's not. Yeah. So it's $539 to Canada. And then the US pricing right now is hopefully in the dock somewhere. Unless, totally. Oh, $540 US. Wow. Did that say $539 Canadian? What? No, it must be US. It's just shipping to Canada. Plus Canadian shipping. Okay. $540 US for a triple monitor Ergotek arm and three 1080p IPS displays. So pretty sick deal. You guys can check that out at drawdubs slash when show. So for master up and check our link, which is the one that he just talked about for a variety of drops. Oh yeah. It's not just that. They have more than that. I usually have that knife. They have like all kinds of cool stuff on there. Actually, I got an audio recorder so that we don't have to use Brandon's anymore. Not that long ago. That's good. That was pretty good. We've been using Brandon's for a really long time. We've got a rapid fire topic posted by Overlord. Original article here is from tech power up and fixed stars unveils the highest capacity two and a half inch SSD yet. 6,000 gigabytes. That's ridiculous. Unknown controller right now. Six million megabytes. Six billion kilobytes. Six trillion bytes. Six quadrillion tenths of a bite, which doesn't actually exist because a bite is eight. Eight bits. So you would only have like point seven, eight of a bit per 10th of a bite, which is stupid. Sorry, should I? It is kind of dumb. It does make sense at a certain point. It's just really annoying to calculate, but not for a computer. Anyways, time to keep going. It has an unknown controller. What's up, Nick? Hey, how's it going? I'm going to make this super awkward. Oh, thank you. Oh, he's getting us water. What a nice guy. Thanks, Nick. Thanks, Nick. We appreciate you. Wow, he flipped us off. You know, Brandon appreciation day is coming. Do you remember that? Brandon appreciation day. Almost a year ago. Sorry, did I just spit? Almost a year ago, we had Brandon appreciation day where we called Brandon in and then we're just like, I appreciate you. And then you told me to make a calendar notification for it for the next year. I completely forgot about it. Was setting up the garbage calendar schedule and then saw Brandon appreciation day. Really? And was like, what the hell is that? Should we have Brandon appreciation day again? When is it? August 1st. August 1st. All right. Which is Saturday, but we can just do it on the day before. Rock on. We should totally do Brandon appreciation day this year. Don't tell him. I asked him what the hell it was. Oh, you asked Brandon what it was. Because I was like, I was like, I don't know what this is, but he doesn't know that we're doing it again. Oh, I see. So he'll probably just forget about it. Okay. Excellent. All right. So basically the details of that SSD are pretty straight forward. 15, 15 nanometer MLC, MLC flash, the underlying controller is unknown. It saturates a SATA 3, 6 gigabit per second interface, 540 megabytes per second read, up to 520 megabytes per second write. It supports trim. It has a three year warranty. No random IOPS specifications are stated. So the idea here is I think that this is not intended to be a high performance desktop drive. This is a mass storage SSD for some reason. I would laugh so hard if it was just like this tall. No, no, it's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. Oh, 9.5 millimeters thick. Standard 9 and a half millimeters. I was going to say like, well it is two and a half inch in that dimension. It's just also three feet tall. That would be super awesome to put in your notebook and just have like a six terabyte laptop, notebook, SSD. It's not going to fit a lot of notebooks, but it'll fit like some of the big ones, the really big ones. Yeah. Even those are moving to M.2. Like even MSI's GT80 only have one, two and a half inch. Like those little boutique laptops that you can configure like crazy. A lot of times they'll still have big drive areas because you can swap out like your optical drive bay when they're still really big and use that as a drive slot. That's true. All right. Asus recalls the MG279Q FreeSync compatible display. This was originally posted by RainsX and the original article is from SwiClockers. This display has been... Oh, this is Swedish. That makes sense. Okay. Well, at any rate, I guess I won't be telling you anything while I read it directly off of the not translated for some reason page. So pretty much the only English sources right now are apparently forums. So that was actually right in my notes on the topic. Apparently the display skips every sixth frame. Mostly visible during smooth motion at a constant speed, which makes sense. It creates hiccups and they're withdrawing all MG279Qs from the sales channel. All dissatisfied customers should contact support early next week. The issue should be possible to correct with a new firmware, but they need to be returned to the factory to update with specialized equipment. This is something that I legitimately don't understand. Why is it that monitor manufacturers are afraid to provide firmware update support on them? We're allowed to update the firmware on our motherboards. We can even update firmware on graphics cards if we want. That doesn't fully warranty? Which? Graphics card firmware updates. I think it does. But on a monitor, I don't really understand why they can't just have a diagnostics only USB port, or better yet, the USB port that's already on there. Have a diagnostic mode or a switch you can hit or something like that. It doesn't actually connect really to the monitor. Yeah I guess that's true. It's just powered. Yeah. So, I mean, fine then! Come up with a different way. I don't care. I mean, yeah. Just some way to do it, that would be cool. Enough monitors are coming out now. You saw the, what was that stupid, the first FreeSync monitor available. First FreeSync, was it Aizoo? I can never remember how you're supposed to pronounce it. The first FreeSync monitor for sale. But basically it came without FreeSync support and relied on a firmware update. I can't remember who it was. OC UK, it appears, yeah. So it required a firmware update once it was released. So I'm sitting here going, well, why don't you just actually give us the ability to update the firmware? I wasn't saying it's not doable. I just, they can't do it through their current USB setup. Yep. You're 100% right. Which is the best kind of right. Yeah. Tesla now selling used electric cars, posted by Tengra on the forum. Original article here is from the Wall Street Journal. We kind of already talked about this. Well, yeah, but you only introed it. There's not really much else to say. So pretty much these are going to be cars that are coming off of lease and they are going to sell them. Online. Is there anything else we can say? It's cool. They're like they're certified pre-owned or whatever, which is cool. I don't think there's really a huge discount on a lot of them. I checked out the Vancouver one, not like I was going to actually buy one just because I was interested. It's still way out of my price range. Buy a lot. But anyways, I was just interested because I was like, Hey, because you and me were talking about how the only way we'd probably ever get something like a Tesla is if it was used and way older than it is now. Yeah. So I was like, Hey, okay, where's the landscape now? Still way too far away for both of us, unfortunately. But like the discount was not that high. But then part of the problem is the ones being sold as used on the Vancouver market will have like 5000 clicks. Really? That's it. What are people doing with them? That's my point. I don't know. Why is this even here? It's barely left the lot. And I'm like, okay, well, of course there's no huge discount. This thing has barely been driven. Like where's the one with like that dude that drives like crazy and racked up like a hundred thousand clicks already? Yeah, that drives like an hour and a half to work and then charges his car and then drives home every day. Yeah. Where is that guy? I guess he doesn't have a Tesla. He hasn't resold it. He's a working schmo and can't afford a Tesla, unfortunately. So the Vancouver market is a little bit starving right now. I didn't do a ton of research. Apparently I think Nick checked out more like the like Stan Fran one and stuff like that, which will have way more. Apparently there's stuff in the program available for between 60 to 90 thousand dollars, which is definitely less than a new Model S. But it's still going to be out of a lot of people's price range. And they are putting a warranty on it. So the certified pre-owned ones are going to have a four year or 50,000 mile warranties on them, which will last four years for your dude over there. Yeah. Yeah, seriously. Oh, geez. It's currently only available in 11 US cities apparently. And the cars are coming from display models and or oh, could be a display model. Oh, so test drives. Could be test drives. So there you go. See, that makes a ton of sense. All right. So yeah, I don't really know what else to say about that. It's cool, but it's not like I mean, to put this in perspective more like the kind of car that I've been shopping for lately is like a beater van for Linus Media Group. I was I was I was literally seeing if I could buy a van for like a few thousand dollars. And I found I found a I found a 2002 Honda Odyssey for thirty two hundred dollars with a hundred and eighty five thousand clicks on it or something. And that is expensive. It's a minivan minivan. No, fans in general. The thirty two hundred dollars. I thought that was pretty good. That's pretty that's a lot of mileage. It's a lot of mileage, but it's a lot of but considering that it'll basically get driven to and from the office or not. Yeah, we wouldn't use it much. Yeah. Yeah. So I was thinking because I don't want something expensive. I want something like super craptastic that I don't even have to lock the doors. But you can throw a bunch of junk in. Actually, I'll probably have to lock the doors because with my car, I'm really not worried about people stealing it. It's a manual for one thing, which is apparently a huge theft deterrent in North America. And for number two, it's like not useful for smash and grab. It has no cargo capacity, whereas a lot of people steal minivans so they can smash and grab interesting. I have no idea. Yeah, that's like a big sense. It makes a ton of sense. And because there's so many minivans on the road, like stuff like a Dodge Caravan, for example, is a prime target because it's like, you know, there's a missing vehicle. It's a red Dodge Caravan. Okay, well, there's a lot of those. A crap ton of them. And because there's so many, it's probably pretty well documented on how to break into them. Yeah. So all that kind of stuff. So we might actually have to worry about not having that. But we could park it inside. I was just going to say we could park it in. It's not like we're going to fill the whole thing. Yeah, because for those of you who are wanting to see what the new LMG headquarters is looking like, if you snagged a Vessel membership back when we announced the free ones during the first few days, then it's already up on Vessel. We have a tour of the new office. And if you haven't, then that's going to be coming to YouTube very, very soon. And it'll give you a really good look at the new Linus Media Group HQ, which I personally think is awesome. And I think is a good opportunity for us to jump into the feedback on the most recent video that we launched on Vessel. Some guy just posted in the chat, Linus, you can buy our old Chrysler for $1,500, 89k miles. 89,000 miles? Yeah, but miles. You're probably in the States. It's going to be a nightmare getting that car here. Oh, yeah, no. Good call. Thank you, though. I really, I sincerely appreciate the offer. But I really, yeah. Importing a vehicle. Not a good idea, especially when you're in that low of price. It's not going to be worth it. Yeah. I can't say thank you enough. But no thanks. It's also $1,500 US. Oh, yeah. Which would legitimately turn into a lot more once you move it to Canadian. All right. So let's go ahead and let's fire up. It's really funny because we got so many complaints about not doing unboxings anymore back when we killed them and we did an unboxing the other day and the, okay, A, that's not very many likes and B, the amount of hate on the unprofessionalism of the video is, so there's like, there's some people that like it, but here you go. This feels less professional than usual. Here's someone that likes it. Bad sound. This is very disrespectful, rude and unprofessional. Disrespectful, wow. What else we got? Whoa, I think you should remove the video from here and present your excuses to your fans and followers and to Factual Design. Stop rushing. Okay. Da da da da da da da da da da da da da. Some people like it. Some people are like, yeah, he's, who cares? This guy's like, yeah, they're almost always, why was this unboxing so ghetto and unprofessional? Was it more ghetto and unprofessional than it normally is? The one guy complained about sound. We should still have good sound. I thought it was fine. I mean, there was some wind. I haven't watched. I was wearing a lav, so that's kind of life sometimes. You guys could put a wind sock on the lav. But I was wearing it in my shirt, like it's not that bad. So yeah, I don't know. We thought we were like, I thought we were doing the right thing. You know, like, hey, let's bring back unboxings once in a while. We also have to wait until it hits YouTube and kind of have to feel it out a little bit more and why not. But yeah. What's the title of it? But with that said, I mean, the Vessel audience is in some ways going to be like sort of the die hards. Yeah, the guys that don't miss a video, even if the video is called, hey, we're launching on a new platform as opposed to, hey, here's a hot new product. You might actually give two cares about it. So yeah, I don't know. I was quite taken aback. Yeah, I got a lot of people saying like, yeah, it was bad. It was terrible. In fact, the entire Twitch chat has pretty much exploded with people saying like it was great or it was like super stupid. It was super terrible. And so I don't know. I don't know. Maybe we'll bring back unboxings as like a regular or even once in a while thing. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, the reality of it is unboxings are a good way for us to address a product like the Define S where I could have done a full review. Luke could have done a full review. But the cold hard truth is it's the Define R5. The full review wouldn't have taken much more time than the unboxing. It's a Define R5 with no front door and no drive cages in the front and more water cooling radiator spots, sort of, because the Define R5 has them. You just have to pull out the cages. That would have been the review. What else am I supposed to say? The thing that the fact of the matter here is we've got we'll have people complain about us glossing over this product, but then we're going to have people complain or worse yet simply not watch the video when we do like a proper more professional review as opposed to just goofing around and having some fun with it on a product that just isn't very interesting. So I don't know. And when you get to we've discussed this but not with necessarily this terminology. When you get to masterful levels in product tiers, like we kind of have in certain ways with phones where like you're you're outpacing what people need or want other than freaking batteries but anyways he means the product, not our reviewing technique. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when the just to clarify, we're basically masters of review. No, no, no, no, no, just not what I meant at all. Calm their boobies down. My bad, my bad, my bad. So basically when the iterations become much less interesting, it's hard to make an interesting five to seven minute video every time. And sometimes it's actually kind of better to just be like, look, these two things are different. So this is a general idea of the product. You're welcome. There you go. All right, people have been demanding a straw poll. The straw poll is here. Got people making good points. If it's not that interesting, why unbox it? Well, so we're still going to want to see it's a fractal product. I still don't mind showing it to you guys. It's not a bad case. In fact, there's some really good things about it. I personally don't think that many people need more than five mounting points for drives. I've actually, and I think you have too, struggled with certain ideas where we want to show you guys something, but it would only take 30 seconds to show it to you. So how do we do that? Because if we release a 30 second video. I mean, there's the possibility. What I've done with stuff like that in the past is the handy tech series is an interesting way of tackling that. Yes. Where we do multiple. We often come up with ways and we make it work. But that is a legitimate problem. But it's funny because if we pad the content, people complain. And if we make a short piece, like I did what I called, I think I called it like a micro review for the Moto E, which was again, a product I didn't think was particularly interesting, but was relevant from the perspective of, you know, someone who's doesn't have a lot of money and is shopping for a phone. So I did what I called a micro review. And then we get people complaining that the content to sponsor spot ratio is not good. And I'm kind of sitting here going, who cares? Who actually cares? It's at the end of the video. And like, don't have to keep watching. We do that out of consideration for you guys. It's not a better video if we just write it to be longer and put in filler. It's not a better video. And there's no point to the content that we're staying. It doesn't make it better. And like I would make the argument that for something like the Define S, the point was the voyage of discovery. I mean, that's what people claim to have always liked about the unboxings that we did was this is the first time I'm seeing it. And here's the, here's the process. I mean, a lot of the complaints about it are about apparently the way that I handled the case. You know how I handled the case? I lifted it up to shake it, to demonstrate that something had come loose inside and the side panel came off because the screws had come out. Did I handle that case poorly? Who handled that case poorly? Not him. That's the answer to that question. So and people are like upset. Oh, he's throwing it around. I never threw it around. I dropped the side panel because the side panel screws came out because the captive nubbins on it make it so that only a tiny bit of the threading goes into the side panel. So which is something that is actually really, really hard to capture. That's actually an interesting point. That's really hard to capture in a professional review because when he takes that side panel off it's not going to be filmed the first time and it's not going to end up really making it in the video and then if he claims like, oh the side panel came off because the screws are short, then some people will not necessarily believe him. But with that said, no one would ever open up a case by shaking it if they were buying it for themselves and I would make a decision. But there's always going to be the accidental clumsy where they bump something or trip on something and like later on if they're carrying their computer around and their buddy slaps them on the shoulder and is like, hey man and the side panel falls off, I don't know. Yeah it seems pretty unlikely. I mean I think what I would probably do when I'm writing that script is I would go, okay am I actually going to encounter this problem if I'm buying the case, taking it apart, yeah no I shake it around a fair bit. So if I buy the case, I take the side panels off, I put them in the box safely while I build my computer in it. No I'm not. I didn't mention that but it is something that probably should have been addressed, they should have had a longer screw. Anyway the point is it's just, stop spoiling the video. It's just an unboxing. The only entertaining thing about the video is just hey here's a video, I talk about the product, it's kind of entertaining I hope. Alright so let's go ahead and- What's the struggle? So somewhere around- So the WAN Show audience wants somewhere between 77 and 94% in favor of unboxings. With that said, they don't get the kind of viewership that our proper reviews do. So for me I see it as a way of covering products that I think are interesting enough to make a video but not interesting enough to spend the hours and hours and hours and hours and hours involved in making one of our normal videos. Which is why we selected the one we did to be completely honest. So let's see. Maybe we'll try it a couple more times or we'll see how the Define S one goes when we launch it on YouTube and stuff like that. What about- Yep I think we should just try that rather than pulling them about it. Let's see how it goes. There was another topic I wanted to hit just now. Nintendo is apparently working on a theme park. Yeah so they're joining forces with Universal Parks and Resorts. This is the first ever attractions based Nintendo thing and there's no other info. And that's not the actual logo. Yeah that's horrible. That's for a game. I own it. It's actually pretty good. Okay so yeah so this is- If you have friends. The article is pretty much pure speculation. It was posted on the forum by Notional and I would go. I would go. I would go to this versus Disneyland. Oh 100%. I think in terms of relevance to my childhood- I would be so scared to go though because of the merch. Oh the merch. Oh my financials. Yeah well that's exactly it. For our generation I think Nintendo actually has more relevance than Disney. I mean I'm just trying to think. Disney does a really good job with the princesses. With the little girl demographic. What do they have for the guys? They got Cars. Which- Cars is- Crap movie. No that was like- That was like merched. Like Cars everything. No I know but is Cars like a guy specific thing? It's a guy technically. Yeah I think Cars is- You think they could be a girl and be interested in race cars? Yeah you could but I think that's not- A lesser percentage. When they sat down and they had a planning meeting for the demographic they're targeting. I don't think little girls was it. So not Frozen. So yeah so not Frozen. Like what targets little boys? Aladdin. Aladdin was never really merched in the way that something like Cars or- And it's old. Any of their new stuff. Really old. I don't really know. Back in the day. Got people saying Cars is Pixar. Pixar is owned by Disney. They own Star Wars. Yeah they own Star Wars but that's not- I've got someone saying Cars is a great movie. I'm sorry but Cars has Owen Wilson in it. I still think you should do your movie review channel. Nothing with Owen Wilson in column does contain also falls into column is great movie. A movie rating database. Like a database that automatically rates movies based on like contains algorithms. And if anyone brings up that Marley and Me atrocity I don't even want to talk to that person ever again. Toy Story. Okay. Yeah but Toy Story was very poorly merged. Did you ever- That's true. There was some- Toy Story was- and that was pre Disney ownership by the way. So Toy Story was a Pixar project that seemed like they just- it was pre-commercial. Like they used actual toys other than Buzz Lightyear and Woody. So the only merch deal would be things like bed spreads and stickers- But did they even really sell Woody and Buzz much? Not much as far as I'm aware. I remember being a kid and being like the first time I ever saw a Buzz Lightyear toy I was like whoa you can get those? Yeah. Like it wasn't like a oh I see these everywhere obviously. It didn't have the Disney juggernaut merchandising in it. Meanwhile you can buy like bow and arrow sets from the Hunger Games or whatever and like you can buy whatever you want for new ones. Like Frozen has everything you could possibly want. Frozen was such a huge commercial success. You know they're working on the sequel now right? Yeah. So they've brought back some of the same folks. I'm stoked for it. I'm gonna watch it. Frozen was good. The Olaf dude? The dude that runs the shop in the mountains? Olaf's the snowman. What? Yeah. Oh okay so not Olaf. You mean the Swedish guy right? The Swedish guy yes. So cool. I love that guy. He made the whole movie for me. Anyways, Scoob Guy. Um where were we? Yeah. I don't know. Like I don't get it. Anyways so yeah Nintendo theme park. I would go. I would take my kids there because it would have a lot more relevance to me. It would be a lot more interesting to me and it wouldn't just be like. And they'd still have fun. Yeah and they would still have fun. Cause there's rides and shiny things. Mickey Mouse versus Mario. Mickey Mouse versus Mario. How is that not in a fighting game yet? Ha ha! Ha ha! Apparently, apparently, apparently Ryu might be coming to Smash Brothers. The whole, it's so inbred now. Like when are we going to get a stormtrooper in Smash Brothers? That would be awesome! Matter of time. Absolute matter of time. Like it just gets to the point where you add so many characters it's like completely imbalanced and it doesn't, and no one even cares anymore. It's just like we. Oh people will care. There's a really hardcore Smash community. I know that people will care, but like. Most people won't care. If it's something as cool as like we put Darth Vader in Smash Brothers. One thing that I like about Smash. A Darth Vader angry bird. There's the people that care and there's very specific. Crossover of crossover. Sorry go ahead. Darth Vader angry bird. Oh my god. Ha ha! That would be so ridiculous. There's enough like fine control and specific things that there's people that can care and there's stuff in the game that caters to them which is super cool, but it's also so general and easy to pick up that random people can just play it and still have a good time. Unless they're playing against those people in which case. The hardcore. It's ridiculous. Yes. Anyways. Smash is cool. We have lost so many live viewers since I've like stopped talking about topics. We've lost like 300. Well we're like done. Are we? Is there anything else? EVGA is releasing DDR4 memory apparently and DDR3 memory. I see enhancers coming to GTA 5 soon so that's going to be interesting because everyone's going to get banned. Unless they pirate it I guess. So more game developers giving people more reasons to pirate things. Super cool. Has a black PCB. Evidently carefully selected chips. That's good. Sounds delicious. If they didn't carefully select chips there might be a Dorito on your RAM. Yep. Dorito memory. Someone should sell like specifically not carefully selected chips RAM. They used to. So there's a chance that when you order it in the mail you just get a bag of Doritos. But they're super cheap. So it's like a lottery. I was trying to have a real conversation. You know like how in games you can like buy a key to open the box and get something random. So it's like that with real world products. So there's like a 50% chance to get a bag of chips and there's a 50% chance you get RAM. But it's 55% of the cost of the actual item. So this is back when they used to actually do that. This is an article from Legit Reviews from back in 2005. This was wow almost to the day 10 years ago. I'm old. Holy crap. I can't believe I remember this. So UTT memory ICs were actually based on the famous... Like the throw away stuff. Windbond BH5s. No no they were not throw away. They were like working chips. So basically some BH5 dies got like found somewhere. And pretty much what happened was OCC bought a whack ton of them and released them as VX modules. Voltage Extreme. Because the chips weren't... See I can't remember exactly what it means. After they were packaged they were not speed binned. UTT stands for Untested Memory ICs. They were based off old Windbond die revisions. No one found them. Someone legitimately obtained them. So OCC released their gold VX modules and pretty much because they weren't speed binned in any way and they weren't sorted you had to pump. VX stood for Voltage Extreme. You had to pump like obscene amounts of voltage through them but because they were based on the famous BH5s which were some of the best most famous overclocking memory ever. They could still overclock really well if you just fed enough voltage through them. The problem was that they would die at some point. So there you go. So it's a pretty good article. Apparently Mushkin had some red line memory like sick. Like 2226 timings at 3.3 to 3.5 volts. And a big sign on it that says active cooling required. This is like back in the wild west of PC hardware. It's just like yeah anything goes. Forget JDAC specifications. We're going full on UTT. You know what back when the signals were running at much lower frequencies there was less crosstalk. There was less complexity in the trace designs. Back then this kind of stuff could actually fly. These days I don't even recommend overclocking memory anymore. I recommend putting it in your system at the speed that it's supposed to run at and leaving it because it doesn't make a difference to performance anymore anyway. This was back in the days when you were accessing memory over the front side bus. So you would overclock the snot out of that and you needed high speed memory in order to stay in sync. Like maintaining a one to one ratio was like a big deal because all of a sudden you were wasting fewer clock cycles and there was less latency. Like ah yeah. That's when that kind of stuff was fun. That was when that kind of stuff actually made an ounce of sense. These days overclocking memory just gets you random crashes every once in a while. And higher temperature memory. Yeah so there you go. Yeah anyways that was a fun show. Yeah so I guess that's pretty much it. Thank you guys very much for tuning in. Apparently people didn't like my RAM lottery idea. Your RAM lottery idea? I wasn't even listening to you. I literally have no idea what you're talking about. Okay. Alright well thank you guys for tuning in. We'll see you again next week. Same bat time. Same bat channel. Did people not understand it? Yeah I had someone tweet me. What do you mean same bad time, same bad channel? What's wrong with the timing channel? Bat like Batman. It's like the old 70s Batman. So that made me feel old too. He's old. I'm just all about the feeling old today. The best part is he's not actually that old. I feel old. You're not technically old enough to have seen that though. That's true. I'm old enough that it was rerun on TV though. I watched it on my TV. But doesn't YTV do the like super old school rerun things? I'm willing to bet they don't still rerun that. Like I'm willing to bet their super old reruns are like Bobby's World now. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Cause I've seen it. Yeah. Okay. Oh it broke. Oh it didn't. Alright. People are asking for an after party but my back is hurting. Yeah and I have a question from Kevin about a video. I mixed up a video test. I tried to put a model 3 on the unveiling last March. I don't believe rumors anymore. I'll wait till it's unveiled. That's another one of the videos that I shot on YouTube before. I think there's over a million people wondering about the small screencast because I 나와