 Cuz like you know all the way over. I still don't really fit. That's what she said Yeah, it's when show time and we managed to get a that's what she said before the proper intro Before the in right at the start we are fast Like that you're just like that's you're thinking you're thinking. Oh, it's about just and it's over. Yeah Okay, we've got a great show for you guys today record speed first we get to admit that we were not only slightly wrong, but also slightly ignorant and a little bit dumb so that'll be coming later, okay, which I wasn't able to research at all oh Cuz I can't look at this yeah, yeah, no that's that's fine. Don't worry. I got this thanks um HTC's keyboard is Showing ads to users of their phones apparently it might not really be their fault But it's because of something or whatever whatever we'll get into it later, so that's brilliant This just in an asus thread ripper motherboard there are now unboxing pictures. It looks awesome I've held it. Oh, it feels awesome I'm sure it does and the ROG crosshair 6 extreme has been announced dun dun dun So yeah, I guess I guess really a job Dang it. I don't have twitch open yet Nerd yeah, I believe that is pretty much the definition of a wrecked son I got Hold on I'm sure we have sponsors, but I have to post that the WAN show is live on social media That's what I usually do well. Thank you to Savage Turkey fresh Jingles are a lost art. We should uh we should make another album oh Okay, I've wanted to do a non Christmas themed album for a while I know, but I didn't we learn our lesson last time no it did really well Okay, well there are different ways to learn your lesson. Okay, so so for those of you not familiar It must how it was over a year ago Over a year and a half ago. We had the harebrained idea. I don't remember whose idea it was Was it you? Was it me was you was it me? I'm not taking full credit for it I'll take partial credit for other people were complicit in this I was more than complicit Yeah, so this was a thing that we as a team Idea, but I definitely championed yeah, okay, so we created a Christmas album We took a bunch of classic Christmas songs, and we rewrote the lyrics with technology as as sort of a theme and It it was awful yeah, but the lyrics were actually not as bad as you might expect because I I took what some other people wrote and made very few alterations because they were quite good or Completely redid because they were done by Colton. Yeah, yeah John and I sat down Like together outside of work hours and wrote a few songs that were like pretty solid yeah I believe Nick's Nick lights were pretty good. Nick did a few yeah Colton's were terrible They were really bad. I was like do you even English, bro? They were a little rough So I redid those ones, but anyway and then without any rehearsals nacho mist Which like that's a reputable name right there says that it was actually fantastic Okay, thanks nacho miss and we actually sold quite a few of them So I was I was getting to that part um Are you checking which I'm gonna you're checking aren't you okay? I mean that we're gonna sell none of them next time because people have now seen what we can do yeah So so anyway, so we we did I think it was like nine or ten songs something like that So we without any rehearsals and without any screening so no matter who they were if they were on staff at Linus media group they had to sing for the Christmas album and We sold how many of them did we sold 924? for a grand total of 172 dollars so we not even close to made back the time we spent on it nope not even also add revenue Which I can look up for you right now Oh, I don't know if we can say it sure yeah, let's do let's I don't think anyone's gonna care Okay, you know what we may have actually turned off We may have turned off monetization because we wanted as many people as possible to watch the The video advertising it so we released it as something that almost looked like a joke No, we did we monetized it, so we released this video that almost looked like a joke and And then we're way too serious about it, and then you actually could buy it Like this is this is real. This is not a joke at all Look at Ed back there My favorite thing this whole time is looking at Colton's face This if you see like the behind-the-scenes Linus has just been grilling Colton the whole time so Colton's just sitting on the couch I don't even think he's singing like half the time just completely deadpan. It's great Another interesting thing the reason why I know that this sold fairly well is that I get emailed every single time someone buys it Every time so like every few months. It's not that common anymore because it's been so long Right, but someone will see this in the download section and just be like what? Just buy it for fun, so we brought in another $400 heck from the 275,000 views on that video, so that's over three grand man So that makes you want another one well that was back in in 2015 We probably get more views now, okay, so tell you what we've matured Okay, so tell you what we've matured as a professional I'm going I'm going full-on bean spiller here We are not doing another album like in that form You don't want to you don't want to spill it. I'm not gonna tell no no I want to make another album No, no, we're not doing another album all right, but There will be some time in I'm not going to promise a time frame other than like in the next few months because it's a fairly Large project and we want to do it right there will be a tech themed like fairly high production value music video Coming from Linus Tech Tips in that time frame Which if it does well enough might end up being able to go into an album if we do enough of them Okay, have you heard the song no? There's a song recorded already that the the the actual melody okay? No, I have already with some placeholder lyrics very placeholder, but like It's pretty catchy. I haven't heard it. It's pretty catchy is this You bet okay? Yeah, so it's this is something that That that we've been talking about actually for probably about three years Well before the Christmas help well before we were in this office. Yeah, so that's that's definitely a thing that's happening Other things that are happening so the 16k gaming setup I hope I'm not really spoiling anything, but I just came back from filming the final video for that so That's that's coming very soon as well. That's awesome And no it is not a baby parody as much as I would love to do that a baby baby Baby, yeah, no, it's not that all right so I Don't know what just happened there. I don't know wow I don't know what this I don't know what this is but actually where this conversation took place was on my personal Twitter So the only way I'm going to be able to the only way up so let's kick the show off with me kind of Admitting that I may have made a bit of a mistake So first of all there was the news from tech power up from last week Intel says AMD epic processors glued together in official slide deck and to be clear That was far from the only thing wrong with this slide deck we We went kind of ham on Intel slide deck being unprofessional childish undignified you pretty much name it and I'm not backpedaling on the bulk of that, but There's also a post on the forum here This is this was posted by Johnny Johnny corporal tech and AMD basically produced a Couple slides going like actually okay, you know we have some partners their partner list isn't as long But at least it doesn't have any duplicate entries on it So I'm gonna give them credit for the partners that they do list a pretty big deal. Yeah But there was something that I did kind of screw up because I was not familiar with this particular technical term so Dr.. Cutress from an on tech made a point I can't believe he watches the WAN show. I don't know why he would I like that. Thank you. Yeah, thanks Ian. Hi made a point of messaging me via DM FYI he's so polite was it okay? He's so British is it accurate though If Ian says so I'm kind of going because he didn't say it's accurate So here's what he said a term is different than it being accurate. Here's what he said word-for-word FYI glued together is a technical Term okay infinity fabric is a glue logic Fabric, okay, and a common semiconductor Microarchitecture term and he linked me to a Wikipedia article because while he is a very polite person he's British That doesn't mean he can't get a little snarky. He's British You'll see it in a lot of semiconductor research papers to deal with data movement around silicon or between chips examples include PCI express and Vlink etc in case you were unaware I feel like you and thanks for the shout out. I feel like it was being used I Feel like the way they were using it in the context of all the other slides was still pretty B-mode yeah And it can it can be a technical term and that actually makes sense that it's it. I'm not surprised at all I thought it was incorrect because I thought their form of link I wasn't applicable to that yeah, but I think it's still BS But but there you go, so I'm backpedaling on the outrage over saying that Epic is glued together You heard it here first, but I'm not backpedaling over the rest of the nonsense that was in that slide deck I'm still a little bit for the outrage on that comment It was it was straight up I don't know all right speaking of outrage HTC's keyboard Yeah, is showing ads to its users. I mean oh, okay, okay here we go HTC is working on a fix so what's the update? I love it when they use the term fix to describe something that wasn't broken Okay, to be fair For this situation touch pal is the keyboard and HTC uses touch pal keyboard So what HTC thinks is or what people think is going on here is that touch pal? Ran an update that started serving ads through the keyboard and HTC was like whoa What the heck and is now trying to stop this from happening So I don't think it was like HTC Actively doing anything I just think it was HTC losing control of something that they here's what I don't understand Why are they using touch pal keyboard? I don't know I Don't know I can't that part has continued to be confusing for me Swift keys free Yep, well Swift key might be free in the context Of an end user downloading it, but Swift key might not be free to a Skin maker wanting to right but but Google keyboard Google keyboard is free and it's free like it's not my favorite I don't use it. I don't like it, but I don't not like it anymore than any other piece of trash Keyboard Samsung's is like the best keyboard ever Anymore than any other piece of trash keyboard Samsung's is terrible. I've never used touch pal I'm not a fan of touch pal, okay They're they're they're all pretty garbo And the only reason I like Swift key is because there's a few little Customizations that I make to it that make it very very usable So I shorten the long press so you can get it all your special characters without switching keyboards not all but the vast majority Of them so it makes it faster to use. I don't I don't flow type so some people tell me that Swift keys Flow is not very good. Don't care. Don't flow That's that's pretty much it actually that's pretty much I'm at the point where using other keyboards feels weird, but the prediction of Swift key is Fantastic like I can basically look away and kind of like mash at my keyboard It's gonna be like did you mean I'm like yeah pretty much if I'm on a Keyboard that I don't often use I like can't type anymore. I know because I know we've all turned like helpless I like definitely run typos pretty much all the time and Swift keys just like I'll do all this Everything will be fine. Yeah, another creepy thing in that same vein right now is Google's auto predictions for email Have you seen that I've seen it on? I've seen it on my on my mobile. I only get it on my phone and then on here send me an email Yeah, well no, maybe I can hold on maybe I got one here You probably don't know here. Yeah, yeah, I got one so on here I get all kinds of stuff so I can click reply so I can use voice or I can say okay Yes, no thumbs up smiley sad heart lol. Thanks got it done. Nice. I don't know what why what's up? Okay, give me a moment on my way sounds good big happy face very sad face and a heart This is too many options. I know I could take my phone out in the actual app. There's just three usually But like I don't know that I actually like it because it started and but because it's so creepy that it's starting to get really good Mm-hmm like it started. I was even talking to John about it. It has started suggesting responses that sound more like something that I would actually say Oh Mine hasn't really gotten any better. I don't use it. Mine's gotten better, huh, and I've rarely used it I think it's just farming the data from my gmail. That's very interesting like I got one that was like, okay great. That's awesome and I was like That's exactly what I Say yeah, so the next step is when it doesn't even bother asking you to press the button just does it It's just like boop you can delete it if you want, but it's already there. Yeah Really pretty epic All right, how we got here, but I think we're now on a suits thread ripper mobo and box. Yeah So this is from video cards calm so Honestly, there's not a whole lot to it The only thing that was miss so I've seen the board already the only thing that was missing Was the accessories but now we're able to have a look at what is included so there's some kind of PCI Express riser card I'm gonna guess that's like and that tour something What is the point of doing an unboxing like this and leaving all the stuff in the packaging did they really do that? Okay, so yeah, here's an m.2 riser dude ad four-way SLI bridge Why I guess if this is like? Like a just for benchmarking type of product that's pretty high-end so might make sense super surprised We've got like a GPU support bracket. It looks like we've got ginormo Wi-Fi antennas so this is gonna have like 80 Wi-Fi I think Big page of stickers is a PCIe Ethernet card This is what I don't get you know Why and this is coming from someone who? will actually made His mark like and and built his career on unboxing videos Why did unboxing videos ever need to exist when you could just have this I? Mean yes, this is sort of a crap job. They did of it, but like if you could just have I think it's Harder to do like you can do a really really crap job with a video unboxing And it can still be better than this You know what I'm saying, but I can see like I've watched a lot of box. I've watched a lot Yeah, but doesn't that's me no not really look how much light glint is on these freaking I mean, this is a this one literally has the anti-static on it. You can't tell what it is. That's useless This is literally useless. This is also useless So is that is that a box of something I can't tell all these other things have light glint on I can't tell what the vast Majority of these okay, all right, okay, but assuming this picture wasn't taken by like but that's the point if it's a video It'll be moving you'll probably be able to see better what it is so you'll be able to okay So you're are you really making the argument? I think hold on hold on you're telling me that video is better Because you could watch frame by frame and maybe see the like yes where you could I have for like Really weird niche products I have watched terrible like cell phone in the hand one hand unboxing videos of it to try to figure out what's actually going on and like kind of scrubbed through it so that I could see better because It was that bad and it has answered questions that I've been looking for I've had it work for me. Okay All right, I'll let it slide on this one Also announced is the crosshair 6 and The crosshair 6 extreme so There they're finally going full high-end on AM 4 So RGB lighting Blah blah blah for more than a decade it really it really does speak to the industry's confidence in Ryzen Yeah, that we're finally seeing truly high-end boards because I would have AMD fans complain that like The boards are good boards are for Intel. Yeah, and it's like yeah because Other than like a handful of people who are completely blind to the products that exist other than them anybody else with you know 200 plus dollars to spend on a board is buying an Intel chip right now Sorry and the motherboard manufacturers, they don't just they don't just know this from like a They have an ounce of sense and can read a benchmark chart They know this from a they are seeing actual real sales numbers Yeah, as AMD's lineup gets more and more and more irrelevant At this point in time if I was building a new system. I would be very heavily looking at AMD which isn't something that I've been able to say for a very long time and Seeing this kind of variety in the products that are available seeing someone like Asus go okay sure yeah We've got the confidence to put the R&D behind what will probably be a 300 to 400 dollar board US to put the R&D behind it because we know that we're going to get enough of even this kind of high-end Product moved off the shelf that we're going to recoup that cost and maybe even make some money to see that is Really confidence inspiring. I am I am just stoked Yeah, I don't really know I don't really know what else to say about that I don't necessarily have the same confidence in Vega You're going to have to wait for you're going to have to wait for the video to see the full kind of rant But frontier edition is like far more of a piece of garbage than other reviews necessarily indicated so our Our review of it is basically like this is this is an early access game like This is this is paying more for like access to the select DLC so that you can have the buggy gaming experience and then not even get the like Expansion pack that you then have to go and buy anyway. That's when they actually fix it like It's a bad product I'm really excited for that video Yeah, it's it's going to be one of those ones where like The vast majority of the people who watch it are going to be sensible people who can Look at the comment section in there is going to be horrible So there's going to be so I'm talking thumbs up thumbs down, okay? Yeah, so there's going to be the the vast majority of like sensible people who can look at At facts objectively you can look at benchmarks objectively and who? Don't leave a comment because they just aren't that invested in it and Then there's going to be everybody else who engages with this video, and it's like And that's exactly what those people sound like sorry in the other side of the pool because you're talking about people that would Dislike something because you dislike something that is from a and B even from the other side of the pool We were just talking about how cool this stuff is this I guess they can't see it on screen But on Linus's screen right now this amd stuff And someone in the chat in twitch chat. I saw just scroll through all caps everything amd no No, no further information or content just my this is my opinion I Don't think that's cool cuz I am being I didn't ask yeah, thanks. I guess I Don't know there's there's people on each side. There's there's Intel fanboys. There's a B fanboys There's a video fanboys, and everybody hates each other. Yeah Now the whole chat is just amd no amd no all right. Thank you. Thank you everyone. That's wonderful appreciate it all right Next in the news so this was originally posted by Johnny corporal tech on the forum and our original article here is from cbc.ca The dark webs largest illegal marketplace founded by a Canadian. I didn't know that Shut down by the US All right, so let's get into this one a little bit So the US Justice Department has officially shut down the dark web marketplace alpha Bay a site Ten times as large as Silk Road accused of allowing hundreds of thousands of people to buy and sell drugs firearms computer hacking tools and other illicit goods because remember there's lots of illegal stuff besides like drugs and guns yeah, I like for example Like a cell phone signal jammer. Yeah would be the kind of thing that totally definitely exists super definitely is everywhere, but is illegal to own or operate in Pretty much any developed nation. I would think yeah, definitely Canada Yeah, so so that's the kind of thing that could end up on a site like this the operation included the arrest of suspected alpha Bay founder Alexander Kazaz is Kazak is Kazak as A 25 year old Canadian citizen arrested on behalf of the United States in Thailand He apparently took his own life a week later while in Thai custody and he faced charges relating to narcotics distribution Identity theft money laundering and related crimes basically he was screwed and he was Sure that he was not getting out. Yes Yeah The usernames and passwords of thousands of buyers and sellers of illicit commodities have been identified and are subject to follow-up Investigation by Europol. It's and partner agencies. It's just usernames and passwords like I you know what? Remember This is the world Where people give? Televangelists money to buy private jets You know about this right no, yeah, this has happened Oh, yes more than once where they literally got up there and they're like To spread the word of God. I Need a private jet So send me anything you can spare Like that's a thing That's a real thing They ride around in private jets That they literally said they were gonna buy with donation money tax-free so don't under estimate People's ability to use the same username and password that they use on frickin Facebook for a dark web marketplace Where you buy like drugs? Yes Don't underestimate hopefully we get a follow-up article on this with like how many people got screwed. I Super duper hope so entertaining I Need to start the Church of Linus. Okay, twit twitch chats like Need Church of Linus. I need a lot of thread reaper I think I would be an excellent word of CPU. I think I would be an excellent televangelist probably I I could I could have so much fun with that stick Luckily would follow would follow best church Love it Okay, we've got we've got ourselves at least at least like 30 followers right now, which which in some states is probably enough for tax-exempt status So we are we are doing this Awesome, oh man Other people want Church of Luke and you can have your own church. I'm I'm you know, I'm no we should make a I can be one of your things a Denomination. Yeah, like it. Okay, so it's actually like the Church of Tech. Yes, so you could be like Lucas Yeah, like like You know like Linus all of them. Yes Perfect. Yeah, and then like we can pretend to like fight to make it more interesting Just like those guys that are really popular in YouTube right now. They can't remember the name of where they like pretend little Quarrels, but then behind the scenes were like just finding ways to gather more money Apparently John all John Oliver's done it. I've heard of this Yeah, okay. All right What hasn't John Oliver done and they like had to pull it down because it was like working too well and stuff Yeah, but I think everyone knew it was a joke. Okay, good But people just wanted to contribute so we're like, okay I mean that's still a that's still a pretty good scam. Oh, yeah, it's like ha ha. Let's show all the Give me money. Oh Terrible yeah All right. No. No, the way we make money is much much more aboveboard than all of that Because we tell you right now actually, I guess they are just saying send me money soon I can have a jet. Okay, so watch this ad spot so that I can buy Definitely not a jet something not a jet, but you can hire more people. 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I saw the booth list and I'm actually really stoked I think I'm gonna have a lot of fun We went from LTX being something that I was really not sure how hard I wanted to sell Because I wasn't sure how great it was gonna be to LTX being like Flippin gonna be awesome. I almost wish I like what Hosting a booth is gonna be super fun and a new experience for a convention for me But like as someone who really enjoys conventions and having the conventions that I go to be less and less about tech Seeing this is really exciting. Well, it's VR dude. You could just leave people in VR and like go away. That's fair I could probably do that. There's a case toss There's a corsair key swapping competition Like leaderboards prizes. Yeah, you wouldn't believe how many like some companies We reached out we were like, hey, could we get some prizes and they were like sure Here's like boxes of like lanyards and cool crap some companies We reached out and we were like, hey, could we get some swag and they were like boom. Here's a Titan XP What boom here's multiple GTX 1070s. What? Here's limited edition GeForce USB drives Or boom here's literally like I think Asus sent like 300 or 400 t-shirts What so there's gonna be like an Asus t-shirt for like almost like every other person who's there? This thing is gonna be swag central Giveaway central. Okay. This is the thing at like packs and stuff All the really cool giveaways used to be from the PC guys It was rarely the gaming Companies they might give it a shirt that but the PC hardware groups like MSI used to have sick giveaways I remember that NZXT used to have sick giveaways Nvidia used to like And they was giving away like shields like candy one year They would go into be YOC what might one of my favorite experiences that I ever had at a packs was an Nvidia giveaway in Yeah, you know C section. I didn't get to participate in it because we weren't in B. Y. C yet We were in like the free play area, but we could hear it because it's right beside the PC We were in like the free play area, but we could hear it because it's right beside it The first thing that did was the first person to rip an AMD card out of their system and hand it to me Gets a brand new top-of-the-line Nvidia card. I don't remember what card it was I think it was like a 580 or something But any AMD card or do system you get a 580 the next one was like some weird competition You got another 580 and there's more by the way because not to be upstaged by Nvidia Let me tell you AMD is gonna have some stuff there Yeah, some stuff that I actually can't even talk about yeah And some of the stuff that I can't even talk about might be getting given away. Yeah, so like There's gonna be a thing. This is gonna be crazy We're gonna have never before seen Linus media group videos that will never be seen Whether they were rejected by the brand or that we couldn't get music licensing figured out for them There's gonna be a channel super fun that will probably never see that video that will That might never otherwise see the light of day There's gonna be That's the way else we got I don't know a lot of this 16k gaming is gonna be there The arcade machines gonna be there cool oil PC is gonna be there the one and only and we're doing a silent auction for BC Children's Hospital where I went around and I found a bunch of relics of Linus tech tips, so there's a refurb drive from the original Wannock server Oh, that's pretty so that it's like that kind of stuff and I was gonna have I was gonna have Colton Steph check with you But I actually wanted to see if you want to do the fallout bomb oh For sick kids I might end up just winning it You would just buy it It's even mine like that's technically That's why I want that's why I told them we had to ask you about it. You want to do it? We can do it. Yeah, I'll probably just I'd be sick I told them I told them that they couldn't do the scrapyard wars PC That would probably hurt me a little that I told them that was the limit But they were like they wanted like a build of some sort they can do the bomb so okay If not the bomb then we'll have the plastidip PC Okay, so there will be a build there that you'll be able to and the bomb is just an empty case by the way But there will be like a case that was featured. There's still all the wiring So like you could it's it has all the like front IO that would be in a normal case So you could build a system in there Recreating the thermal setup that I had so that it wouldn't crash at like any load is gonna be difficult That actually took like a long time so anyway LTX is gonna be sick And it's not really next weekend the 29th And if you somehow are like I'm teched out right now, or I don't want to see video games or something for a while There's like Joe's thing sumo wrestling bungee run rocket league in real life rocket league in real life There's an insane on stage on boxings to exclusive on stage on by think our biggest issue is gonna be that it's Not like two days. Yeah, there's so much stuff to do well We were worried there wasn't gonna be like anything to do no I know so we know there's like really careful with it Like ample amount well You know what what we'll probably do is if it's if everyone who comes has a blast and like tells three friends And we have like you know thousands of people there next year, then we'll probably have to run it over a couple days We'll just have to see how it goes yeah ticket sales sucked like we could have expanded it to a second day We checked with the convention center, but like ticket sales were kind of lame So we were like not lame enough that we're like yeah We have to cancel this but one issue is that it's in Canada. I know I received a lot of messages I know that being a problem. 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Think the twitch chat probably is too Wow, yeah, the fan blades on the Taiwan fans are noticeably smoother and more rounded The flow acceleration channels on the blades of the Taiwan fans are more defined The inner surface microstructures Of the made in Taiwan's one have a distinct water drop shape whereas the made in China are just a shallow triangular cutout I Communicate I was gonna say these sound like counterfeits even I Communicated these differences with noctua and they claim that the differences are within their manufacturing tolerances and do not affect performance But noctua is known for its reputation of the highest attention to detail and I'm sure That's all also really good that the noctua engineers designed these tiny details to exacting specifications for some reason is basically what the the reddit post continues to say Apparently now haven't heard them, but the made in China fans apparently Have a noticeably louder drone when spinning at the same RPM RPM as the other fans Now gamers nexus is gonna be apparently Doing tests and gonna be making a video on it, which is cool Or they're reporting back check them out over at gamers nexus comm or they've got a YouTube channel as well So they'll probably make a video on this one. Yeah good guys over there. Yeah They've been they've actually done a lot of good content around this type of stuff. Yeah, I enjoy that This is more their wheelhouse than ours anyway But I'll definitely be paying close attention and we can talk about it on WAN show in the future to how this works out and I'm Definitely firing up an email over to my contacts over there like what the heck is going on cuz like I'll tell you guys something so this this is sort of this is sort of very sort of behind the scenes sort of in my brain How things work? One of the business ideas that I would love to explore in the future as much as I love selling digital influence Which is a great business by the way because you don't have any manufacturing costs well You don't have to carry any inventory well. I mean okay. Yes, you have to you know people like that Equipment and all that kind of thing, but but but these are one-time costs. Yeah, not but not preridom Yeah, you don't have to R&D a new frickin you know nut and screw or whatever every time you get like it's Branded just has to change the lighting setup. It's somewhat more finite So I like the business of selling digital influence But one of the companies that I would want to found when I have some more time and when I am able to do it would be a manufacturer of a physical product and a Lot of the philosophy that I'm developing for this company is actually borrowed from my perception of Noctua Yeah, because I thought of Noctua that they were like Like the founders were somehow deeply involved in aerodynamics research or something at some university over there I don't remember where I heard it, but like someone told me that someone told them that that was the background But that wasn't what happened at all RASCOM the parent company of Noctua was just like a small-time European computer hardware distributor like You know like like like like you know frozen CPU before they went down So so they were just a distributor of other people's parts And then frozen is actually a perfect example of a company that also Developed their own products at one point and then completely went off the deep end So when I found that out I kind of went well How is it that your fans are the best and they kind of went well? I went do you have like brilliant amazing engineers, and they were like well Yeah, we have like you know good engineers, but but they're not you know leading researchers in the field of you know fluid dynamics Or anything yeah, they're engineers And I was like well then why are yours better than someone else's and they're like because we don't release it until it's right because of attention to detail Because we care and this doesn't sound like caring or attention to detail no it doesn't So this is kind of like this is kind of shaking Because this is kind of shaking the foundation of a business that I you know haven't invested a dollar into yet like I'm not even close to starting it But one that I that I do want to start at some point and that I that I had planned to build around Basically the knock to a philosophy charge as much as it takes to make a profit on the best product you could build So it's going to be expensive, but make sure that what you build is the best that was that was the idea And I'm I'm sort of you know I don't want to get ahead of myself because if there's anything that I'm a fanboy of It's knock to a fans. Yes So I'm not going to freak out yet. I also want to point out that the link that I posted in the chat for the Reddit conversation does have a video doing the sound comparison it does have a lot of frame color difference pictures It has a lot of comparison images for a ton of different things this guy has done a lot of work He's obviously affected he might be as much of a knock to a fanboy as you are Wow Huh Well let's um so see how that goes I'm interested yeah if this is if this is true What is what is the name of that other brand? They're black and white fans oh noise blocker noise blocker if this is true Will you actually try a noise blocker fan? Wow Because this is okay. This has been like I don't bring it up much because we talked about it a lot a long time ago And this conversation has just concluded like there's nothing else to really talk about it was just like No, I found a fan. I really like it. This is right. This is perfect I'm gonna use it forever. I'm gonna use it forever, and that's fine. It's a fan You found one that fit your specifications And it's not so much that I refuse to use noise blocker or something like that It's just like if noise blocker was better than an NFF 12 Then it like it really wasn't by much and a big part of what I trusted about Noctua and trust about Noctua Trust it. I don't know it's like I don't know what I don't know what anything is anymore A big part of what I think a big part of what I have trusted about Noctua is inside information that I have From being the product manager on their line and seeing real-world RMA raids Yeah, they don't die or like anything can die, but they generally don't very uncommon very reliable I'm just saying right now, but if all these could be different Maybe that could be different too. Noise blocker black silent Pro fans look really slick I'm just saying. All right well speaking of companies that are capable of both delighting and disappointing me Our next bit of news posted by HK05 on the forum is originally from video cards.com And is a rumor about Intel So Intel is allegedly working on multiple hex core coffee Lake CPU So coffee Lake for those of you not familiar will be the replacement to KB Lake And that will be a mainstream processor So this tells us a couple things this tells us either that Intel of its own accord had been finally intending To deliver a six core mainstream processor anyway before AMD dropped Ryzen Or that Intel became aware that Ryzen was going to be pretty good through corporate espionage Far before the rest of the industry knew about it and started working on this Or just already had it and just decided not to do anything with it I don't think so because if they'd already had it they could have done it with KB Lake Right. Whereas coffee Lake is going to be a new platform so it's going to be a new chipset I think if they had been if they had known about it two years ago we have it in KB Lake Whereas if they knew about it like a year and a half ago then either they decided on their own its time or Or they weren't willing to throw a fast one at motherboard manufacturers again so hard with mainstream processors It might be easier to throw a fast one at them with motherboards that they won't have to make nearly as many of This could be very disruptive to Ryzen Yeah but I think Ryzen has AMD as a whole probably at this point gotten a lot more customers just because people are more interested in them Because they're tired of some of the crap from the other side I can see that And I feel like a lot of the communication that's currently going around AMD isn't going to go away even if Intel releases a good processor Because there are certain like business practice things that people didn't like That's true So I think those communication lines might keep them going And I mean a lot of people will buy based on a particular brand loyalty Yeah or you'll see a post on PCMR that's like oh these are great and just go buy that And if either product is like good Yeah Then there's really nothing wrong with that And people aren't going to fight super hard if they're both good products Like you know you go back you go back far enough to when you know AMD and Nvidia were pretty comparable So like you know we could look at the like the X800 era or something like that Like an X800 Pro was like pretty freaking similar to a 7800 GT or whatever the contemporary one was I can't remember exactly Was it 6800? 6800 GT? I don't remember anyway They were pretty darn close it came down to whether you liked Catalyst Control Center or was it still called Detonator at the time? I don't remember whatever Nvidia's driver was called Thank you to everyone in the Twitch chat that is currently going Intel no I love that that meme is still going Alright anyway here's kind of the summary of these rumors K version will have a 3.7 GHz base with hyper threading enabled so that's 12 threads and the non-K running at 3.2 TDP of 95 watts which should be quite doable And then there will apparently and that'll be the flagship so that'll be the 8700 The 8700 series then the there will be a 6 core i5 as well wow oh that's interesting With that being the slowest 6 core desktop the 8600K 3.6 GHz and then 95 watt TDP no hyper threading Wait no the slowest 6 core will be a core i5 8400 Wow so that could be like that could be like a hundred and seventy dollars hundred seventy five dollar price point That one like the article is saying looks like a direct response to AMD's Ryzen 5 Intel will also apparently introduce an actual mobile CPU with six cores with much lower clock speeds and a 45 watt TDP So you'd expect to find that in something like an Acer Predator 21x refresh or something along those lines Wow it's apparently okay so sorry I just got to give an update on the the no's in chat One more thing it's apparently unclear at this time whether these will require new motherboards though I would have thought they would Yeah so don't quote me on that one okay go ahead It has divulged it started with AMD no and then it transferred into Intel no with this article which was funny And now it's just turned into like anything no Perfect It's just it's chaos it's chaos in switch chat the bots banning everybody it's just it's it's hell out there man You gotta fight to survive All right so we can probably skim yeah there really isn't much going on here Oh okay Nintendo applied for a patent for its Nintendo 64 controller they reapplied for a Nintendo 64 controller patents So there's probably a Nintendo 64 classic coming after the SNES classic But who knows and it's not coming for a long time and it's pretty expected that that would happen anyways so yeah Can you like how much are NES classics at this point Very expensive Apparently people have found some that got restocked so there's a little bit of rumor going around that they might start actually manufacturing all them instead of just having them as one year runs Yeah because it's so stupid Yeah Like it's just like printing money There's a lot of people that want to have the set Like Nintendo why do you hate money Yeah I just I don't even They have so much I really love it when people are like man that was a stupid decision from Nintendo they're gonna die as a company I'm like no they're not Nintendo can survive for like ever while making terrible decisions because they have so much money It doesn't even matter though they'll like fail repeatedly and then just release another like Wii or Switch the Switch is doing incredibly well It's like oh the Wii U didn't matter and no one knew it existed that's fine Nintendo would have survived and then just smash the gaming world again with some other new console doesn't matter They have like a way more intense version of the Microsoft like every second OS thing Yeah This is kind of funny Yeah Posted by Dyson on the forum the original article here is from the BBC A Chinese mall introduces husband storage pods for shopping wives husbands can play old school games like Tekken 3 in the pods I'm also gonna try I want this in the North American malls Okay not necessarily apparently there's no ventilation or air conditioning some guy sat in and played for five minutes and was just drenched in sweat Okay So maybe better ones Yeah maybe better ones so these are glass pods where women can leave their partners while they shop Inside each individual pod is a chair monitor computer and gamepad and men can sit and play retro 1990s games The service is currently free Yeah But in the future users will have to pay to scan a QR code pay and scan a QR code to use the service They should just make it so that you like pair up with the person that you're shopping with and as they make purchases It like gives you more time You know what I mean so you don't actually have to pay for it's just tied in with like someone in your group is spending money at the mall So you get to stay in your little pod and they should make it so you can like order food to it and everything That'd be awesome I just also want to bring up that the the no's in chat switch to money no Nintendo no and profit no so Excellent Good job Thank you for the update Keep going Love to see it The original article here is from TechCrunch YouTube launches its counter terrorism experiment for would-be ISIS recruits And basically what's going on here is that now when a potential ISIS recruit searches for known extremist content on YouTube Using a predefined set of keywords they will instead be redirected to videos that deconstruct and confront the terrorist group So ISIS no ISIS no I get way too much entertainment from this I am completely okay with this So these are curated YouTube videos debunking ISIS recruiting themes This open methodology was developed from interviews with ISIS defectors Respects users privacy and can be deployed to tackle other types of violent recruiting discourses online So that's where this gets kind of dicey Where is the line? So the recruit the redirect method began with an eight week pilot program enlisting 320,000 viewers that explored some key insights around the kind of things that potential ISIS recruits search for To be fair though this YouTube is not a government website They can suggest and they have a suggestion algorithm they can suggest whatever they want to you This is why stuff like Float Plane makes sense Except maybe not for that type of content But like if you want to specifically see one thing that you're searching for Going to one website that has like a crazy machine learning algorithm that's trying to just give you what it wants to give you is not necessarily the greatest way to go So effective deterrents apparently include documentary videos That's a good idea Citizen journalism That one's interesting Videos that feature religious debates and videos from ISIS defectors I wouldn't have thought necessarily the third one The religious debate one is weird because I could just see that fueling someone even more Well maybe not I mean maybe these people are obviously okay Okay I'm gonna be careful here but I would think that someone who manages to be converted to an extremist is probably pretty How you say the force would work on them They're probably pretty suggestible Yes right okay there we go It wouldn't take an Obi-Wan because he has a special gift for it just basically anyone Basically anyone so if you just throw a debate in front of them Maybe that Even Qui-Gon who never successfully does it in the movies would be able to manage it Too many Star Wars memes sorry Yeah that's interesting I can't be upset about it This particular instance I have no issue with at all Seeing where this goes could be a big problem Again I personally think it's a private company it's not a government agency they can kind of do whatever they want I might not like it but that would just incite people to use other platforms more if they abuse it so just do that Again it's a private company you have the freedom to use other things if you would like to Hopefully they don't take it much further than this Trying to stop people from becoming terrorists Heck yeah super down with that Trying to stop people from using Edge browser Ehhhh And that's the Wan Show for today Thank you guys for tuning in we will see you again next week Same Bat time Well no let's not actually leave yet There's two things that we still have to do One I'm recruiting for Float Plane if you want to be a developer and you want to come join us There's a video on our Facebook page and on our Twitter right now and on Float Plane if you want to see it Unfortunately I am looking specifically for Canadians or Americans who have a degree in a highly related field like computer science or like software engineering It has to be very directly related That is because of immigration law and all this kind of stuff we have already picked up two guys that don't fit within that realm And it's been a problem trying to get them into Canada and trying to keep them employed because Canada doesn't want you to have people who are employed Who don't live in Canada when you don't have an office outside of Canada blah blah blah So we're trying to make this process a little bit easier and we're just going for Canadians or Americans with a full bachelor's degree That one's nice too I was telling you earlier to try it out, it's good They're new flavours, very good So yeah if you're interested, you want to apply, back end, front end Check out those videos, it goes into more specifics there about even what the heck Float Plane is Employment, no! What you'd be doing, is that what people are doing now? Employees, no! Canada, no! Edge, no! Oh god, I love that I don't know why I love that so much but I do Also we should go over what's on Float Plane right now Mmm, right! I can't miss two weeks in a row, that would be rough Dang it, I'm not signed in What a nerd I know! What a nerd Whatever, these guys have been watching for like, I'm talking about the archive If anyone actually made it this far into the video, what's another like 30 seconds? Fair Shoot, that's not the- That's the wrong one What am I even doing? I'm busy enjoying this jerky Hey, someone said Float Plane, yes! I'll take that meme break Sorry, I have to sign into uh- I have to sign into my password manager in order to sign in- oh! Everything is awful All in the name of security though, right? Pretty much Yep, yep, that's security I'm just tired of having accounts compromised Yeah, that was no fun No, that wasn't a lot of fun 200k? No, I will not be paying you 200k And in response to your answer, no, I will not be doing it either Yeah Alright, let's see if that works Boom, we're in Alright Someone's like, 200k, yes! So what do we got? Casino Technology is- that's actually a pretty good episode It's been a little- the comments on that have been interesting Because some people feel quite strongly about casinos I didn't really expect that was going to be a thing Really, why? Because of gambling addiction and all this kind of stuff Yeah, what does that have to do with us though? I don't know, it's just been an interesting comment section Interesting That's not necessarily been pointed at us, it's just been interesting Mezzanine Update 11 is now here Yay Woo, look at that It's actually coming along Five truly unusual graphics cards They truly are unusual I gotta give us credit for titling this one very correctly That's a fan Oh Yeah That's unusual That's a thing Yeah Yep The world's most amazing desk PC 16k gaming build log Dun dun dun See, I think you could have had an even clickier title for that I don't think the interesting part there is the desk PC, it's all the monitors I think the thumbnail- well, that's the subject of this one Is actually building the desk PC and getting everything mounted So this is part one of two Ah So the other one focuses more on the monitors So part two might even do better Part two is the one that I expect to beat 8k gaming Yeah, okay, okay, cool Um Another- 16k, yes Another rant about red digital cinema is coming There you go To YouTube Or you can watch it on floatplane now There you go $7000 card That's actually a pretty cool video, I watched that DJI Spark video is up What else we got? I think that might be it Oh, this, Project Orthrus That thing is insane This is- Like actually insane So this was half of the joke when I did that stupid thing with SLI Rant, yes, red, no Hahaha You've started a monster now I love it, it's like 80% of the Twitch chat right now So this was part of the joke When I said world's smallest SLI With those stupid USB drives Is that we actually will have the world's smallest SLI coming up on the channel very soon That's awesome We'll have 1080Ti's this time, like for real Alright, so thank you for tuning in to the Wanshow We will see you again next week Same batch times Same batch channel Bye No wait, no, before you go Alright, here's a link to where you can join Floatplane Club You should join so you can go binge watch all that stuff Yeah The 16k monitor setup desk PC thing is pretty insane It's like super dope It's insane Everybody stop spamming so I can post my damn weird amount of things Spam, yes Stop No Wanshow over, yes Terrible Should make a shirt Shirt, yes Not shirt, no No You can vote You can vote for which side you like more Oh my goodness Terrible So good Check out our sponsors, yes Be happy that the show is over now No