 Okay guys, welcome to the WAN show, that show every week where me and this guy are all like, hey let's like make videos and put them on the internet and then maybe people will watch them. Let's be on time, nope. And then people watch them. And okay, we're only four minutes late today. What is this? You gotta pause it. Why am I getting French ads? I don't know, we're in Canada. Poor parties pay, au concours, something. Just pause it. Alright, I'm pausing it, I'm pausing it, I'm pausing it. Alright, so guys we've got a great show for you today. First of all, we have a topic that we covered last week sitting in the callouts here. I'm gonna go ahead and move that. One Mr. LaFrenier, I believe, put that there. I don't remember talking about that at all. Well, probably because I did most of the talking. Because it's the Linus show. But I feel like I would have had input on that. Maybe you had me doing something else. I'm surprised that you didn't call me out on that. It's called the Wan Show. It's not even called the Linus Show. I don't really care, you put your name on everything, so whatever. Linus Media Group, Linus Tech Tips. What did you want the shirt thing to be called? I don't remember, but I think that this conversation is heading down a path that I'm really not actually that comfortable with. He just really likes hearing his name. Everyone should just tweet him his name. Thank you for that. Please just tweet him his name. He will greatly appreciate it. I'll retweet it. Why don't we move on to our topics for the day. Microsoft has committed once again to do more for PC gaming. But they actually have... You're spoiling. It's gonna be awesome. iOS 8 is on the way. Actually, a lot of the features that they're showing off look pretty darn cool. Some of them are innovative, some of them are not. But still good. It's about par for the course for any mobile operating system update. Take everything that you can and add a few things. Exactly. We also have Microsoft Cortana voice control coming along the way, which should be really interesting. And the Asus Phonablet desktop. Tablet, laptop, it's not a desktop. It's the one thing it's not. Asus' 5-in-1 PC. How do you make a 5-in-1 PC? Well, Asus will show us. But in the meantime, guys, we'll do the intro. Yes. Broken intro. Alright, so this is interesting. Our first sponsor this week is actually a group of sponsors. We, along with TechSyndicate, will be participating in the world's highest elevation terrestrial LAN party. So we are going to be going to the top of the highest peak in Colorado. And we will be taking some Asus gaming notebooks up there. They're gonna be powered by Intel Core i7s. And we're gonna have some sweet Corsair gaming peripherals, of course, featuring their RGB keyboards. In order to get a LAN going at 4,400 meters above sea level. So there will definitely be videos about this whole thing, guys. Be very, very excited. It'll be coming sometime in about a month. And a huge shout out to Asus, Corsair, and Intel for making this whole thing possible. Also, something that's coming a little bit more immediately, is E3 coverage here on Linus Tech Tips. We bailed on Computex this year, as you probably noticed. But we'll be doing E3. Basically, we did Computex last year. It was extremely expensive, and not a whole lot of people watched the content. So we're gonna try something a little bit different. We're gonna do E3 instead. So our gold sponsor for E3 is HyperX, featuring the Fury line of performance to price ratio. I think the word is value. Price to performance ratio optimized SSDs, as well as the Corsair RGB keyboard. And NCIX, my bros, my homeboys, my dogs. Did you see that we were being featured on Newegg's product site? I have seen that. Do you saw that? Speaking of my bros, NCIX, I'm sure Newegg is so super thrilled to have the host of NCIX Tech Tips all over their site there. So yeah, it's pretty funny. I hope Paul and Kyle are watching. They were tagged in that Twitter feed, so I know they saw it. It's absolutely fantastic. I'm sure NCIX thinks it's hilarious, too. Oh, this is great. You're embedding a YouTube video, so I don't know. Chip700 says, so by we're doing E3, does he mean I'm sending Slick to E3? Yes. Yes. We'll be doing the same kind of thing that we did at PAX East again. So we'll do a mix of all the hardware stuff that I can find and a few gaming videos. Sweet. Yeah. No, that sounds like that sounds like fun. I mean, part of it is that we've never covered E3 in any capacity before. So this is more like a scouting mission. So if it turns out E3 is a total disaster and there's no benefit to us being there, then next year we won't. Yeah, exactly. So let us know. It's not like it's not like PAX where I would have to actually tie him down like harder than usual in order to keep him from going. What day did I request time off for PAX Prime? It was when we started Linus Media Group. So before we actually founded the company, so it would have been in December of 2012. You asked for the time off in September of 2013. I think it was like the second day I started working with you before we founded the company. People are saying audio is actually normal for once, which is hilarious because I actually took out the compressor. We're not using a balanced output off the mixer. I'm going into like a crappy RCA input on something. We actually we know what the problem is now. I know what the problem is now. We need an amp and then we need a couple more adapter cables and we're going to be able to get the audio like bang on. The issue is that this juice link amp kind of sounds like poo. It's the one that we use whenever we film things on the Blackmagic camera and everyone complains. So I got the levels sounding really good on this one. And so that that didn't quite work, though, because it just sounds kind of poopy. And then I tried an objective two, but they're not really meant to be used this way. So I didn't really work. I need balanced inputs and outputs in order for it to work properly. The whole chain has to be kind of the same thing. And then I didn't have the right XLR to quarter inch adapters and all that. So it just didn't quite work. But guys, it is definitely going to happen. Also, as for the white balance, I'm actually not sure. I think that is a bit of a I think that is a bit of a problem. But we're just going to have to go with it because welcome to the WAN show. Where we go live at some time that's somewhere around 430 and hopefully things are OK. And the colors wrong and the audio sucks. Yeah. Whatever. Screw you guys. No, we love you guys. Please keep watching. Please don't leave. I need you. Oh, speaking of the WAN show and technical difficulties. All right. How much you want to bet we get a blue screen? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Don't do it yet. Don't do it yet. Hold on. OK. And hit it. Oh, that's interesting. That was so not expected. So that's probably. No, I get it. I get it. I get it. We got to add. Boom. All right. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Not yet. Not yet. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, no, it's fine. We're all good. We're all good. You're good. All right. Hit it. And then yes. Look at us in that corner over there. That's adorable. You're like you're like a cute little ogre. I don't have colored hair then. What were they called? Were they ogres? I don't know. Trolls. Trolls. OK. No, if someone here was a troll, it would be me. All right. So we may have a wireless standard coming. Oh, my God. That is theoretically faster than any wired standard that we can get at a consumer level. And I got to kind of sit here and wonder, what is the point of these faster and faster wireless standards when they never work right anyway? Can you please all focus your I know that wireless is exciting and Intel had that whole thing where they're like wireless by 20. What was it? 2016 or 2018 would like replace everything or whatever. It was a seven gigabit per second thing. They want your display and your peripherals to all be wireless. And I'm kind of seeing they're looking looking at that going OK. So Intel out of one side of your mouth, you're going wireless everything. And on the other side of your mouth, you're working with with Apple on the Mac Pro, which is like the octopus of wires. Well, maybe the idea is that a Mac Pro released around that time wouldn't have to be an octopus of wires. Hold on. Hold that thought. Wireless octopus. You think item just like randomly crawls around your desk and annoys your cat. You know, I was looking into it because I have a bit of I have a bit of an infatuation with remote control. Yeah, there's gear. And as much as I am a crappy heli pilot, I'm actually I'm no I'm a better plane pilot than a heli pilot, but not by much. And cars, I basically have never really used a decent one. So I'm definitely not good with those. So but I still I love that stuff. I geek out over it. So I was looking to see if you can get a really sweet RC submarine. Because I actually built one in my grade 11 technology class. Like we did it as a project. So we made them out of PVC. And then what you do is you'd put as much styrofoam as you need to make it neutrally buoyant. Once you have your motors and your and your wires and everything on it. And we actually made fully functional submarines like everyone in the class made one. We made our own watertight motors out of film canisters. It's funny because my son won't even know what a film canister is. Yeah, I know. But they're so useful for that kind of stuff. Out of film canisters and then wax seals with motors inside them. So they stay dry and they could actually move in every direction. So we had XYZ axis movement. And the thing I didn't like about them, though, was that obviously some kind of a wireless transmitter that's going to be able to punch through water is going to be either non-existent or very expensive. So we were stuck with a wired control. So no matter how perfectly neutrally buoyant you made the thing, as it moved up in the water, there would be more weight on it. And as it moved down, there would be less. So you would never have that perfect control of it. So I was looking, I was just like, is there a hobbyist grade remote control submarine that you could put like a GoPro on? Because it's the kind of thing you'd use once. I was going to say the GoPro part of that would be really cool. You'd be like, yeah, this is cool. Now I'll never do it again. But like, whatever. But you can kind of go diving with it. Yeah, kind of. Yeah. You could go see like fish or stuff. You take it with you on vacation or whatever. Maybe not once, but not that often. But they don't really have anything. So speaking of, yeah, just wireless basically not working. So anyway, Huawei has tested Wi-Fi based on future standard 802.11ax that can hit 10.5 gigabit per second. So that's about 10 times faster than what you typically get at an 802.11ac connection today. This was posted by Qwerty Warrior on the forum. The trick, the company says, is making more efficient use of the airwaves. Thank you for that highly technical, elaborate explanation of the trick, Huawei. The new technology is smarter at allocating wireless spectrum, juggling data between multiple antennas, and cutting back on interference. They don't even have to switch to ultra-high frequencies to make the magic happen. It works at 5 gigahertz, which is great because an inherent property of those higher frequency signals is that the range will be shorter. So it's good that we don't have to go any higher than that. You're still a long way from picking one of these up. They figure that they may hit the market sometime in 2018. I guess it's just frustrating because wireless is getting all these developments dumped into it, and we're still using gigabit wired. Why? Why? Why? We're trying to move away from that. Yeah, we're trying to move away from it, but it's extremely expensive, and no one's really putting the effort into making it affordable. The cabling is not that bad. No, the wiring is fine. It's the routing. It's the switches and the adapters that you'll spend a ton of money on. And it's frustrating because you heard JJ talking about it. What did he say? It was going to add about $150 to the bottom cost of a motherboard? Yeah, I think he said $150, $200. So if they can integrate it onto a motherboard for $150, where's my $150, Nick? Or $165, $170, whatever the case may be. No one's even really making an effort. They're content to just let it sit there as a high-end solution forever. And I really think that with SSDs increasing in speed the way that they are, looking at how NVMe, so that's the replacement for AHCI, the communication protocol by which the SSD communicates with your system, so looking at what they can do with NVMe in terms of improving throughput and reducing latency, there's no reason why two PCs on the same network with a couple of high-speed PCI Express or M.2 SSDs couldn't be transferring files to each other at like 2 gigabytes per second. Let's do this. Let's do it. Did I say 2 gigabytes per second? Because what I meant to say was like 200 megabytes per second. Actually, a lot more than that. 500, 600, 700. Not 200. Yeah, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Yes. So that never happened. There's a few numbers in there that you should ignore. There's a few numbers you should be paying attention to. We could easily be doing 500-plus megabyte per second transfers across the network straight from drive to drive, which is very, very cool. All right, now this, this topic, this is an interesting topic. The thing that can do all the things. Now, I really liked, what was it, the transformer book duo or trio? The one that you could just press a button to switch between and where the, where the Android and Windows operating systems were actually running off of the same drive. Like it was more like a dual boot. This is a little bit different, my friends. So the transformer book V or five, I'm assuming, let's say five. Pretty sure five. Okay, it's a five in one. It's an Android tablet, an Android smartphone, a Windows tablet, a Windows laptop and something, a Windows phone, Android Windows. What the hell is this thing? So basically it's everything. You can, you, what you do is I'm going to, here, I'm going to blow up this picture off from Gizmodo a little bit here. Yeah, you can, you can click the phone in the back and you can click the screen to the keyboard. Yes, so much like previous transformers, there is a hard drive down here in the keyboard because there's only an SSD up here in the tablet piece. You've also got an extended battery in the tablet, I believe. So the phone has, you know what, here, I'm just going to go, I'm going to go back to my cheat sheet for this thing here. So yeah, so there's a 2500 milliamp hour battery in the phone and then a 4000 some odd milliamp hour battery in the tablet, I believe, unless that's in the keyboard. This is the most confusing thing ever. The point is the phone has a 1080p screen and actually a pretty high end spec as far as phones are concerned and then the tablet is a 12.5 inch IPS display and everything kind of slots into everything. The tablet itself doesn't have Android running off of it. That's actually going to run off of the phone hardware. So it's a Windows laptop and an Android phone, essentially, that can just like slowly come together. Yeah, this thing is like freaking bizarro though. It's kind of cool. I am less on board with this one than I am with the last one that we looked at, to be perfectly honest. I just... But didn't they get booted out of that for some reason? Yes, but that was such an elegant solution because you had one set of hardware. So on the same Atom processor, you could run your Android OS or your Windows OS and you could switch between them in like three or four Steam boats. Whereas this one, you can switch between them, but it's more like using one as a display off of which the other one's running. They're not actually running on the same hardware. So it's an Intel Atom CPU in the tablet and then it's a Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 or something like that in the other piece. So my notes for this one actually aren't that complete. And of course, Ctrl F doesn't work in Internet Explorer because I'm a genius and I'm using Internet Explorer. Everyone rips on you about that, like every single show. I don't think it's listed. Yeah, it's not listed. I was looking at a couple of different articles where it has a little bit more information than the Gizmodo one. So that would explain why I can't find it. So tell me, guys, in terms of device convergence, would you want a dummy device like this? I think if it makes sense financially, I could see myself doing it. If I wanted all these things and for some reason had to refresh them all at the exact same time, which is weird, and it like made sense financially, then I could see myself spending money on it if it's actually a good device. I think we'd have to use it first. And this is going to be something that I definitely want to see in the store if I was a random consumer, because I'd want to like actually try clicking it in and make sure that the phone is not just going to like fall out of the back and other things like that that I would want to try. I don't know. OK, so here we go. We've got a summary from a SUSEP now. So it is a Windows notebook, a Windows tablet, an Android phone, an Android tablet and an Android laptop. So that is how the whole thing works. And the detachable Android smartphone is detachable. So that's the piece that is not not Windows phone at all. So this is interesting. OK. Oh, OK. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. So it wasn't a Qualcomm chip on the on the phone. That's actually that's actually very interesting. So it is an Atom quad core on the phone, and then it is a next gen core processor on the notebook slash tablet piece itself. So this gives us a much better rundown of the overall specs. So 64 up to 64 gigs on the phone, up to 128 gigs on the tablet with the one terabyte one being detachable in the keyboard. There we go. Much more clear. Maybe next time we should go to the manufacturer site in the first place. I really hope we get a unit of this because I'd definitely be interested in checking it out and giving it a shot. I should probably let them know that we'd be interested in checking it out. Speaking of things that we're interested in checking out, ASUS has been doing their pad phones. So phones made by ASUS, Android phones, for a while in other markets. Taiwan in particular, you've been able to get a pad phone for like a couple of years now. It gets covered in the North American media a little bit, but understandably not much because they haven't been available here. But it's finally coming. So this is probably where I got that Snapdragon thing that was sitting in my head because this one does use a Snapdragon 800 processor. But basically it's a high end phone. It's going to be $200 with a contract and we are definitely getting a unit for review. So it's got a five inch screen, 1920 by 12. Wait, hold on a second. Right. Sorry. This one. No wonder I was confused. This one's a phone and it talks to a tablet. But in this one, the tablet is just a dummy. Yeah, it's basically just a screen. Except that it also has keyboard and it's probably cheaper. Yeah. So this one is a 2300 milliamp hour battery in the phone and a 4990 milliamp hour battery in the tablet. So you put them together and what do you got? Bippity boppity bop bigger battery. Fascinating. I mean, OK, we need to create a straw poll for this or something. Can you get a straw poll going? So are you interested in a phone that merges with a tablet? And guys, give us your thoughts on Twitter as well. Just hit me at LinusTech. We're going to do a Twitter blitz on this. What would you need to see? So between the notebook that has an Android operating system and a Windows operating system running on two completely separate pieces of hardware and it's like notebook slash tablet slash detachable phone versus the PadFone X, which is a phone with like a tablet dock that the phone goes into. So anyway, the phone has a 1080p screen. The tablet's got a nine inch screen. The whole thing runs Android. They're claiming up to 10 hours of battery life for video playback. And what an interesting device. I'm actually really looking forward to checking this out. Results so far are extremely even at 51 percent and 49 percent. Wow. I think this is the most even poll we've ever had. Holy balls. OK, well, we'll give you guys the results of that. If you can I am that over to me and I'll check it out in a moment. But guys, we've got some pictures here that I want to put up on the screen from the end gadget article about the PadFone X. So here's the way that the phone and as you can see, it'll be on the AT&T network. So here's the way that the phone docks into the back of the PadFone station, which is the nine inch 16 by 10, 1920 by 1200 tablet for 200 bucks on contract. Would you accept a little bit of a reduction in terms of like fancy specs and features like what you might get on an HTC One M8 for a more basic phone, but one that comes with a tablet now that you've actually spent some time using a tablet? Probably not. I know that might sound surprising because I was surprised. I am surprised. But that tablet was only 200 bucks in itself. But this is 200 bucks on contract and the tablet part comes with your phone that you are and let's assume you already need a phone. Yeah, but then at the same time, independent batteries is kind of nice. They do have independent batteries. Can the tablet charge the phone? I'm not sure exactly how it works. It doesn't just just run off the battery on the tablet. Hard to say. Hard to say. And it can run independently is kind of nice as well. Yeah, which it can't. Yeah, because like, I don't know. There's wow, it's exactly 50 50. What the heck? I put it in the dock. Oh, sure. It's right under this topic. But being able to run it independently is nice. That way, like if someone's over and you have your Chromecast set up to be able to stream things off your tablet, they can be looking at your tablet and you can still have usability of your phone. Other things like that would be nice if it's going to be like $50 more compared to buying an equivalent phone and you just get this tablet dock thing as well. I think that's pretty cool. And I'd probably go for that, which does kind of make sense. It sounds like what it actually is. So I'd probably be I'd probably be down. Wow. But I'm not super into buying phones on contract anymore. Anyways, that's exactly 50 50. Well, it knows technically winning. But like, yeah, not by much. If anyone hasn't, yeah, if anyone hasn't voted yet, we can go ahead and pop that in there again. But that is absolutely amazing. So it looks like there's definitely some interest in the whole tablet phone merger thing. But it remains to be seen if anyone other than Asus has the has the wherewithal or the willingness or whatever you would call it. Yeah, wants to make one. I mean, it's the kind of thing you can see Samsung kind of going, oh, something we didn't think of. Let's make one, too. And then so everything that Samsung does. Yeah, pretty much. It's like an idea. We're not sure if it's good or not. But let's make sure that we're coming to our bases and make really bad commercials to go along with them. Oh, you know, they were on a roll for a bit. That whole next best thing was great. And then their most recent one that they will not stop playing on YouTube is actually pretty OK. Is it OK? I haven't seen that one yet. All right. For their their their watch and their phone at the same time in one commercial. OK. But it's like it's not that bad. It's fairly upbeat. It doesn't have a terrible storyline like the one with the guy picking up the chick with a smartwatch. Yeah, yeah. That kind of stuff. It's just it's just kind of upbeat commercial. It's really hard to watch. It was it was like painful. All right. So let's say it looks like no is actually winning now. But let's let's hit the Twitter's. All right. OK. All that Twitter interaction that we often forget to do sometimes these days. It's not a crazy thing. Sorry. Sure. Yeah, that can hurt. Whoa. That's kind of trippy when someone turns the monitor while you're holding the mouse still. It's like, oh, my mouse is moving, man. Oh, wow. Whoa, man. All right. So the original phone pad distributes the battery power evenly. Not sure if the new one does, though. That's interesting. So either one could charge off the other, I guess. That would be kind of OK. Kregel says not a fan of the combination of the two. If one breaks, then I have half a tablet. I don't see the benefit to having them connect. OK. That's interesting. But I mean, by that logic, why buy a stereo that has both left and right speakers? Because then if one of the speakers fails, you only have half a stereo. That's not even right because they disconnect. Yeah. If one of them breaks, you either have a tablet and not a phone or you have a phone and not a tablet. No, because the tablet won't work without the phone. So you've either got a phone and no tablet or you have nothing. So if your phone breaks, you're totally screwed. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I have my PadFone X pre-ordered. I get an almost top of the line phone and tablet on one data plan. That's a good point. That's a very good point. The data plan point, because for some reason, the wireless carriers are still determined to fleece us on the whole idea that we should be able to use our data across multiple devices. It's like I just stuff, stuff, battles that were won, you know, a hundred years ago. Like, you know, actually, now that I think of it, it's not that different from other things. I mean, you look at the way that your cable TV provider, once you switched off of analog where you could just use splitters and they kind of like, we're like, oh, yeah, you need a digital box. Rent another digital box for every TV. Yeah. Cost extra. Yeah. I guess that's just the way everything's going. You have to subscribe per device rather than per person. That's very annoying. Except, except for Netflix. You just have to subscribe per device that's streaming at that point in time. It's whatever works out better for whoever's providing it to you. So you look at something like Windows. If I could license Windows per person, I'd be thrilled. And that's per device. And then you look at actually what is per person. Oh boy. Well, isn't Adobe Creative Cloud technically per person. Oh yeah, that's per person. But it's just not infinite amount of devices. It's like three or something. It's two devices. So basically it's like, but you can bounce around. You just can't be logged in working on that many at one time. That's all. Okay. If they can make the phone not protrude so weirdly and the specs are still solid and the battery is good, I'd get a combo dealio. You know, I don't see how they would do that anytime soon though, unless it was more like the phone kind of clips on because you're going to want the tablet to be really thin and you're going to want the phone to have support while it's clipped in. Unless it was like, unless there was, yeah. I can't think of a good way to do that. Not really. We're also not engineers though. I would be interested in a phone tablet hybrid, but I feel if the tab is nine inches, the phone is a bit too big at five inches. Five inches is not that big of a phone these days though, which is funny to me because I still think I still find it big because my hands are still small. They didn't change because screen sizes became a fad that got bigger. And I find nine inches is a pretty comfortable size for a tablet. That's only a little bit smaller than the iPad. So really, nine inches is a comfortable size for a tablet. I didn't even pause suggestively. I didn't say anything. You can click in whatever you want. Will says, I would need to see a quad core on everything greater than six pounds total weight. What are you asking for? Why would you want a six pound tablet? All right, Will, you're done. I think he's done his things wrong. Most phones have the specs to power a tablet anyway. Yeah, it's basically the same hardware. I mean, you look at the Apple side of things, they're just putting the same chips in their phones and their tablets. Makes sense for them to converge, but only if it's cheaper than two devices. And if you're saving money on the hardware and on the data plan, and basically you're just buying another screen in a shell, then there's definitely a savings to be had. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As a mobile game developer, I need top and hardware. Both of these are clearly lacking high end CPUs and GPUs. Um, in what way? Because there's actually only one CPU and one GPU. The tablet doesn't have one. So this is running a, hold on if I can find it. Does it mean both of these as in the tablet dock and the phone or is he talking about this and the transformer five? I'm not sure. It's very hard for me to say at this point in time. But yeah, it's a Snapdragon 800. So it's not, it's, I mean, it doesn't get a whole load faster than that in terms of a mobile CPU. I mean, the 805 is marginally better at certain things, but it's not a quantum leap forward or anything like that. So I don't see that making much of a difference. All right, should we move on to our next topic here? Sure. All right. What do we got? The monitor that you're probably going to be excited about. Actually, believe it or not, I'm not. Or are we going to? Nope, nope. We're going to keep doing SUS topics. Uh, why not? Oh, is there a monitor that I will be excited about? No, I was just saying like, it seemed to be one big column of SUS topics. Well, it was Computex. Computex is a big show for Taiwanese companies. So it makes a lot of sense that a SUS would have had a lot going on there. So why not? This is the PA328Q. It's a 32 inch 4K, so that's 138 pixels per inch. Factory calibrated, just like ProArts tend to be. 10 bit color, 100% sRGB, wide color gamut, capable. It's got three HDMI inputs, one of which supports MHL, so you can output off your phone to your monitor as if anyone's ever done that ever. I was corrected about that today, by the way. I was telling the wheels over at NCIX that I think that tablets outputting to TVs doesn't matter because Chromecast is sort of a thing. And yeah. And he's like, nope, I do it all the time. Why? I couldn't quite understand what he was talking about, but basically I concluded that he's drunk. So how are you proved wrong here? I don't understand. So what's exciting about this one, even though ASUS doesn't have a clear idea of when exactly it will be released or what exactly the price will be, it will be considerably cheaper than the $3,000 PQ series, which was launched actually, I believe the first time we saw it was Computex last year. I think so. It's amazing the way prices are dropping on them 4Ks, eh? It's exciting. Yeah, it's really exciting. It will actually be reasonable at some point in time. And in terms of the actual display quality, while it's not 100% clear what it'll be right now, they're not actually telling us what panel type it'll be, but 10-bit color, factory color calibrated, this could actually be anything. Hard to say. Anyway, this is the same size as that one, has a whack ton of inputs, is much, much cheaper, and should be landing sometime in the next sort of little while. But they're aiming for about half the price of the older PQ. So we should be looking at like $1,500 to $2,000-ish, somewhere in that range. So why not interested? Because I just don't care about 4K anymore. Oh, because you want your wide format? Yeah, I'm done. 4K is until scaling is fixed. Yeah. Then I can't bring myself to use it. I'm not going to upgrade to a display that makes some things look extremely sharp and other things look worse than before. And some things incredibly hard to read. Yes. And weird website formatting and all this other stuff. And all that stuff that, you know, Microsoft and application developers really needed to be working on over the last few years, as opposed to, oh, 4K is here. Oh, I guess we better do something. Some of them are reacting. Some just aren't. Some just aren't reacting at all. And that kind of attitude is what sets Apple apart. And I know I come across as a bit of an Apple fanboy, but some of the things that they do are really, really good. And they're good things. The fact that they figured out how to make scaling work properly on their OS's before rolling out the hardware that supports it. Or at the same like put just putting in the work to make sure that things actually function the way that they intend is is the kind of thing I feel like I should be able to take for granted. But I know that I can't. No, not at all. Not on our platforms. So speaking of Apple shilling. Yeah. iOS 8. Actually pretty, pretty excited to try iOS 8. Some of the stuff here doesn't look that interesting. I mean, HomeKit is going to be really exciting. Okay, McAfee, just screw off. HomeKit is going to be either a massive success in the future or there's going to be something else that completely destroys it and is way better. But that's Apple's way of integrating their device with home automation stuff like your blinds or your thermostat or your door lock. They're building security into it so that the theory is that no one can unlock your door except you. What's interesting is with that whole thing with people remotely locking iPhones and then holding them for ransom. That was that was one thing. But breaking into people's phones and breaking into people basically breaking into someone's ecosystem of digital devices is going to be a really scary thing. You know, what would be interesting would be offline phones like having having having a phone, which is like your public phone, which you don't store anything super crazy on. Are you a drug dealer? And then having like a phone that you don't put a SIM card in. Do you often cheat on women? What? Why are you? Why is two phones your solution to every problem? You've been watching too much Breaking Bad. I do that a lot too. I have two phones right now. Anyways, no to both those questions. But seriously, you could have one that's set up for all your home automation and everything. Yes. It does not connect to the Internet. OK, so you don't have to worry nearly as much about getting hijacked. You could still possibly get hijacked through other devices or whatever. But it's going to be extremely difficult and it would probably have to be targeted directly at you instead of just a random. I think this is an incredibly stupid solution to the problem. Wow. Why? That's so mean. Because it's the same reason no one. OK, basically, mobile phones have huge security holes. So completely removing that security hole is helpful. Basically, what you're suggesting is we bring back the PDA. Kind of. An offline phone. Yeah. No. Why? Because it's stupid. You're worried about your host getting hijacked. Straw poll. Straw poll. OK, fine. Straw poll. Offline, offline phones. Do they need to be a thing or is Slick an idiot? Those can be the only two options. Yes, we need these. Luke is an idiot. I'm going to get destroyed. Sometimes you don't think before you talk. No, I actually still agree with this, though, but it doesn't have to be a phone. It could be just like a device that can control. OK, but I think the kind of device you're thinking of is just is like is is like way overkill. What I see happening is it doesn't. That's what I mean. It doesn't have to be. Yeah, but like whatever it is, it should be some device that has no Internet connectivity and can go with you. I think I would still want to screen. I just want to see a straw poll where everyone calls you an idiot. That was that was most of it. I still want to screen. That's why I said phone. Would you need a screen once you're more immersed in a wearable type of system? So your glass as of right now, I do think so. Because well, glass is going to be connected to Internet. If you connect your glass to that device, then you're just creating a hole. So what if you don't? What if you what if you just go like what if you just touch your ring against your glass? It goes into airplane mode. Hold on. What if it just acts as a display? So the processing is here. Everything is here except just a display link. There's there's no way to to my knowledge. There's no way to hack a DVI connection. Like that's a pretty minor issue. I don't really know. If you if you use that as a control, see, basically you just had your glass and then you could like gesture or do whatever else or type in the air or whatever solutions they end up coming up with. I think that's feasible. So a wearable is probably the right answer here. But I would still want to I don't know. I don't want I don't I don't think connecting it to because it's not DVI. I'll tell you what. Tell you what I will. I will bring my old HP pocket PC in. But that's not the same. It's not helpful. It has because I would want it to be it has a seven hundred and thirty three megahertz. Five hundred and thirty three megahertz. I was like that's actually pretty fast. Scale processor. All right. It's got like this is not the point though. It's got like a hundred twenty eight megs of RAM. I can have it connected to my parents house. I can have it connected to my house. I could have it connected to say my significant others house. And then whenever I go there, it can recognize me and I can change different things on the device. But then it's not connected to the Internet. So I don't have to worry about those things leaking. I have 64 megs of compact flash storage in it. Stupid pocket PC. That's not what I'm trying to describe. Yeah, that's not the thing in my pocket. You care about I guess. No, it's not. All right. Let's go ahead and not as many people grilled me as I thought. OK. Where's where's our straw pool? It's it's what happened. Oh, oh, oh, oh, bollocks. There we go. All right. No, no, no. Where's where's ours? I just posted it. You just keep looking away whenever I post it. There you go. There we go. All right. So let's have a look at the results of the poll here. Wow. Actually, you're doing better than I thought. Forty two percent of people are blindly following you off of the abyss like the lemmings that they are. You just want everyone's house to get locked and six hundred and fifty eight percent of you are saying that that's basically a stupid idea from a six hundred and fifty eight percent. Well, I might have embellished. So they're all following the dude that like can't read anything at all. Just adds numbers. You know what? Not being able to read is a specific learning disability that actually you have and I don't. That's no I can still read. Right. But slowly. Yes. Yes. But that's not what. Yeah, that's right. That's not right at all. It's getting personal now. And you're just wrong. At least I don't wet my pants during the show. I don't what? You said you were so sweaty that your pants were wet. Actually, that was me. But that was so not true at all. You literally said that like last week. What? Now you're making. Oh, man, you're just saying things about yourself and then that doesn't even make any sense. I'm projecting. Oh, my goodness. I'm a troubled person. All right. So back to IOS eight. It's available for developers and beta now and it'll get a full release in the fall. We are finally getting third party keyboards, which is something that I was really disappointed about with moving from Android back to IOS. Going back to being stuck with just one keyboard was was was grinding my gears. And this is this is one big step towards me being able to use IOS again. They do their own their own keyboard is also getting some enhanced functionality in terms of an auto prediction that predicts the next word based on people that you're talking to and whatever else. So basically like Swift key, except with even tighter integration. I wonder if I wonder if the custom keyboard apps will be able to access that as well. I would hope so. I hope so, because that would be nice because I doesn't doesn't iPhone have that thing where it like doesn't let you swear and stuff. No. All right. Can you add it? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't I've never extensively used an iPhone. So I don't know. So you can reply directly from the notification pull down things. You got interactive notifications, their mail app, which I never use because the Gmail one is way better, has gestures for removing flagging and such. Their health kit thing is basically Apple jumping on the whole bandwagon of, you know, heart monitors and whatever. What's kind of cool about health kit is you can actually have your results being automatically sent over to like Mayo Clinic or your doctor or something like that. So someone else can be helping you, helping you track your activity. Home kit, I guess, is where we got sidetracked photos taken with any iOS 8 device will be available via iCloud. So it's like, OK, kind of like BitTorrent sync or Dropbox, I guess. 200 gigs of iCloud is three ninety nine. Siri now has Shazam integration, which is pretty cool because opening up Shazam was a lot of work. And then finally, it's coming to the iPhone 4S or newer. And get this, the iPad 2 is getting iOS 8. That's actually kind of interesting. That is fantastic. Some pretty crazy stuff in terms of backwards compatibility. I mean, that's great. I have tablets from that era that are running like 4.0. Yeah. That's great. It's kind of brutal. I actually I'm more interested in the Shazam integration than I think you are, because it would be nice, like especially if you're driving. You don't want to touch your phone. You don't want to go open Shazam and you don't want to be like Siri open Shazam or whatever. OK, you're probably right. Because you said they're adding Hello Siri kind of support. Hey Siri. Yeah. So if you can do completely handsless, like touchless completely without any worrying, that would be kind of nice to be able to check songs and stuff. Yeah, you're probably right. It's probably a bigger deal than I'm giving it credit for because it is something that I use a fair bit because I don't really pay attention to celebrities and releases. I'll just be like I'll be in the mall and some horrible song will be on the radio and I'll be like, wow, that sounds great. What is it? Yeah. I got to get me some of that. Some of that top 40. All right. Should we save? Let's save the Microsoft promises to do more for PC gaming for later. So first up is Cortana. Oh, my God. I'm so excited. I'm actually stoked for this. Do you want to cover this one? Sure. I've been super, super interested in voice controlling devices for quite a while now, and I've been waiting for Cortana announcements and being able to listen to it more in depth and see them talk about it. All that kind of stuff. So I was super excited to see this. If you go to this website, either I think both of them have it, but end gadget or VG 247, you can you can listen to audio clips of her talking. It's essentially the answer to Google Now and Siri for Windows Phone. And I think they're adding it to Xbox as well. But she should be able to have casual conversations with you as well, which is fairly interesting and creepy. It's creepy, but not necessarily because if she could. I'm old and afraid of technology, so it's kind of creepy. But go ahead. OK, I don't think it's that creepy, but I guess I'm not not as old as Linus. I just don't expect it to work very well because they like in the articles, they have examples. Of like kind of cheeky things that she'll say, like if you ask her if she's better than Siri, she says not to brag, but apparently I'll help save the universe in about 500 years. And I'm just kind of like, yeah, but all those are like anything that relies on a pre-programmed response is always going to not be that great. It's like it's like bullet holes in the side of a house in a game until we get to the point where the wood dynamically breaks upon impact from the bullet. It's going to look like a video game. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Sorry, go ahead. But because it's all in server, they're planning on adding things like jokes and all this kind of stuff as time goes on every two weeks. I think they were saying, yes, it can go along with current events. So if you ask it about current events, it can have topical things to say about all that kind of stuff. So while you're completely right and it's going to add this weird thing where like you could ask her the same question a billion times and she's probably going to say the same thing every time. Yeah, and that's going to sound a little weird, like same thing down to the letter. Yeah. So that might be a little bit weird and a little bit disconnecting there. They're going to be adding to it all the time, which should help that a lot. And and you're kind of right at the same time, there's going to be this disconnect. The conversations aren't going to feel super natural. I can stop. I'm sure that's going to happen. But this is the start. I also just don't really have any desire to converse with my phone. Not really. If it could like, I don't know, because I really, really like. OK, Google, now what's up? Yeah, but it's horrible. It is so terrible and it is not useful. And you might have to you might have to sort of I don't have my phone. I wish I could do I would do a live demo, but I don't. It's I'll go like I'll have some emails and some text messages and whatever. And I'm like, OK, Google, now what's up? And it's like, hello, Luke. The time is six forty seven p.m. You have two emails, subject line, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. OK, done. You have text messages from done. OK, bye. It's like what that was. Where's the interactivity? How do I say, oh, hey, reply to that message? You can't respond to anything. I don't I don't need to know the time every single time. The longest part of her talking to me is her making sure that she takes time in between words, saying hello, Luke. The time is blah, blah, blah. Then once she gets to her email, she blurt's email a text message. She blurt's out things super fast. Doesn't always read them correctly. Like rifles through it doesn't say who it's from. Like I'll get text. It'll be like you have a text message. Body of the message doesn't say who it's from. Can't reply to it. I'm just like, what? Yeah, it's like subject line. I want you so bad right now. It's like, who is this from? There could be a dozen different people. Oh, player. No, what? Oh, my God. OK, anyways, but like there are a lot of messages that aren't like that that could be from anyone. So I don't it's annoying. And like if someone sends me a text message, that's like, hey, are you on the way? This is the time where it would be amazingly helpful. My phone goes off, says I have a text message. OK, Google, now what's up? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah says, here you on the way. Oh, respond. Yeah, I'm just driving. That would be amazing. Well, one of the problems that I have with what I've had with Google's voice activation in general, and they fixed one of them recently to their credit, like I got to I got to give them props for this, was the way their voice styling used to work is you'd say call whoever work or mobile and it would say, do you want to call blah, blah, blah? Yes. Or I think no, no, I think it was calling whoever. Would you like to call blah, blah, blah work? Would you like to call blah, blah, blah mobile? Call this one. Like it didn't just let you do it in one go. And then it say and then I think it would ask you to confirm or something like that. And like, no, just when I say it, just do it. And I think I think part of it fixed that now. And I think with like Moto X, I think you can have it detect if you're driving and if you're driving, I think it will do a little bit better than OK, Google Now does. Right. But then and then like, OK, Google Now isn't even on a massive amount of devices. So what? Yeah, it's just on Moto X right now. Yeah. So like what? It's just OK, Google. You don't have to say Google Now anymore. I don't think I've tried that. I was not working for you. Maybe it just doesn't like my voice for when I say that. Could be because you and I have had apparently lots of problems with Google Now that no one else in the entire universe has had. So anyway, I'm going to give I'll give Windows Phone 8 another crack once Cortana rolls out. It's been over a year since I've tried it. That was back when Windows Phone 8 was first kind of rolling out. And I'm pretty excited about all. I'd like to see what what it's like. And I don't know that it's going to convince me to switch back to Windows Phone. In fact, I sincerely doubt it. But with some of the great devices available on Windows Phone, like Nokia's latest flagship, which I can't remember what it's called, but it's really good. It's got a great camera and Nokia's latest. OK, so there's only one. That's OK. I'm still really want to try it out. What else we got here? All right. Should we get into Microsoft is going to do more for PC gaming? Really? This time it's different. They're like an abusive spouse at this point. All right. So this was originally posted on the forum by John or some sort of action. You know what? I I'm whatever. You go be a Microsoft fan. No, I know. I'm until I see some kind of action. I'm on your side. Are you on my side? I am because it didn't seem like it before when you were suggesting that we all start carrying PDs around again. And that was why I had to abuse you. I hope you realize this is your fault. This is not a good way to go. Oh, my God. This is why I have to hit you. This hurts me more than you. Horrible. OK. Yeah, that is awful. All right. OK. So Microsoft's recent acquisition of the PC centric Rise of Nations franchise is just a first step in Microsoft's efforts to do more in the PC. Also known as only according to Xbox boss Phil Spencer, a fan asked Spencer on Twitter why Microsoft had acquired Rise of Nations and announced a re-release for Steam to which the veteran Xbox boss said, Steam is a great place to sell win 32 games. We acquired the IP for future work. I'm a big fan of the franchise. The fan is apparently a Yahoo because this fan responded by saying they aren't interested in installing Steam. Praise be to gay ban, but would rather enjoy a games for Windows Live replacement. Praise be to gay ban. Wait, wait, what? What? Really? That part of this? Yeah. The fan is basically off his rocker. So it's not a fan. This is a planted person. I have no idea. I have never met or talked to a single person ever that has thought games for Windows Live was anything other than. No, Microsoft has already said they're they're not expecting to create a direct competitor for Steam and they shouldn't. I'd like to see more collaboration. Well, yeah, we've brought up about how Ubisoft needs to give up and reskin Steam. Okay, so at any rate, this article, blah, blah, blah, et cetera, et cetera. Microsoft, whatever, has committed more DirectX 12, blah, blah, blah. So this is great. Someone point brought this to Johnner's attention and it was added to the original post. It's a post from 2013 that chronicles all the times that Microsoft has said this in 2005. We care about PC gaming Longhorn. That's the code name for Vista. Blah, blah, blah. To usher in modern PC gaming with tray and play. Do you guys remember that games folder for Vista that is gone now? Okay, well, Vista launched with none of the stuff they promised. Vista was not popular. 2006, I think actually the what the article says is Vista itself sucks the ass of a thousand camels, but I decided to make that point. But then you just said that's true. I did. But I was a direct quote. All right. So in 2006, in the first 2006, Microsoft says, Don't count PC games out. And they announced games for Windows Live. Talk about how amazing it will be. In 2007, they continue the PC push. They launched games for Windows Live with a $50 a year fee. Genius. Thanks for saving. They also they also announced a whole slew of games to include Shadowrun with cross platform play and Gears of War one and blah, blah, blah. Cross platform play. Where what happened to cross platform play? They realized that PC gamers were to destroy. I'm sorry if you're a console gamer in the audience, but I'm so much faster with a keyboard and mouse. 2008. Yay, we got rid of the $50 a year fee. See, we're serious about PC gaming. 2008. PC gaming's not dead. Look at this event we're throwing. 2008. All new games for Windows Live. It's got a new skin. 2009. PC gaming is still a priority for us. It's really vital for us. We're still serious, guys. 2010. We're doubling down, which means games for Windows Live is still here and we'll update some stuff to fix the problem of game saves being deleted. 2010. Games for Windows Live marketplace. These are all things we've been wanting. 2010. Windows 8 is going to relaunch gaming. Just like we promised back in 2006. 2012. We won't ditch games for Windows Live. 2013. We're discontinuing Windows Live. Thank you. 2013. Microsoft promises core first party games coming to PC. So forgive me if I give exactly zero craps about Microsoft's recommitment to the PC because it really just... If you look at the rumors circulating about how there's at least some discussion about canning the Xbox division altogether. Never mind PC gaming, which was the redheaded stepchild eight years ago. With all of that said, Spencer says part of my Xbox role is to bring back our Windows gaming focus. The opportunity has been missed time upon time. With the original Xbox, there was an opportunity to get Xbox's rolled out as media streamers, which actually there are still some deployed today as media streaming boxes, to get rolled out as an inexpensive media streaming box that happens to also be a cheapo gaming console. And then to bring that library of games to PC gamers and Xbox gamers alike, throw mouse and keyboard compatibility at the Xbox so that there isn't that inherent disadvantage, and make it all one big ecosystem. Which would have been amazing. Then go and add Windows Phone and tablet and all this stuff to it to keep things segregated the way they do. Never made any sense to me. What could they have possibly been thinking? Developing games for just one platform instead of all the platforms. I mean you look at what Microsoft has invested in a typical PC. Let's say they develop a piece of software. Let's say for example, Halo. Halo 2 or whatever. Doesn't matter. The point is, if they could sell that to any PC user or any Xbox user, why do they care? Even if they had it separate, I would have bought two copies. So there's the benefit of selling someone an Xbox, to which I would kind of go, okay, that's a benefit. But I don't think, particularly near the launch, you're making anywhere near $70. I think it's about $50 to $60 is what a tier 1 pays for a Windows license. So I don't think you're really even making that much on the hardware. And then if it's a PC, well then you made that much on it. So what do you care? You should just want a bigger installer base and a bigger community for your fans. And not alienate all of the people that trump for your platform so hard. I know so many families where the mom and dad are just like, yeah, we should just get an iMac. And the kids like, no, please no. And then they get a PC. And it's like, this is why your installer base is really large. Come on. One of the reasons. Yeah, one of the reasons. All right. So more bad Microsoft news before we have good Microsoft stuff. Microsoft confirms the Xbox One is more powerful without the Kinect. So this is posted on the forum by Missinthrope. This ties into a video that we have coming up shortly. Yeah. So they figure it's about 10 percent. Ten percent additional GPU performance can be gained. Which is like kind of huge. It's sort of a big deal. Like wow. I mean, it's not going to be the difference between running at 30 FPS and 60 FPS. And we have a really great video coming probably in a couple of weeks that's going to be about that. But it might be the difference between running at like, what is it, 880 to P. Yeah. And a real resolution. Like 1080p. There was a couple. Yeah. So this is a great post from DLF on the forum. We can't just turn off the DRM. And I don't believe that was actually Xbox One. I think that was that was that was Xbox 360 or something. OK. And then we can't just disable Kinect. We won't sell Xbox One without Kinect. Does all of those things. But you know what? I am proud of consumers right now for speaking with their wallets because what? They're not really buying Xbox. Yeah. Dead Rising 3 is coming to PC now. Is it? Yeah. So by just refusing to settle for an inferior experience, we are forcing them to be friendlier to us and to win back our favor. Well, in PC gaming is just like you guys keep on thinking we're going away, but no, we're just like massive now. So screw you guys. Which is awesome. They're ridiculously huge. I was talking to someone who is fairly close to me that didn't know what League of Legends was. And it reminded me of the discussion that we had in the garage way back a long time ago. About whether League of Legends is mainstream. Yeah. Yeah, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. That's so weird. Yeah. Wait, did I get a straw poll to determine that you're an idiot? And did I get an admission that I'm right on the same wandshow? This is fantastic. Can I have a fist bump for it too? No. You're not going to complete the hat trick? No. I can't give you all three. Make the audience put him down. Have him put himself down and then have him congratulate me for it. No, it's just how amazed that I was because at that point in time I had proved you wrong because you said the last person that would know about it would be... Proved. Oh, that's... This was your... You won the battle. Yeah, this was your decision. Yeah, okay. And then I... My wife knew what it was. And then I won. But then this was... Yeah, this is the first person that I've ever met that didn't know what it was. Right. But it's like the first person I've ever met that is like outside of... Yeah. And okay, ever as in like the last few years. I know, you know, it's funny because I... You don't think about how isolated or like how... Inside of a box our group is. How segmented people are. Yeah. And the way that social circles work. Like it's funny because I've had a few experiences like this lately where Rampage Dev, the guy that helped us with the Hackintosh, was like... Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To create the bootable USB. Yeah, just plug it into a Mac and do this. I'm like, I don't have a Mac. And he's like, oh, we'll borrow one. I'm like, I don't know a single person who owns a Mac. And he's like... What? Boooow. Boooow. I don't, I don't either. Or at least not someone who would lend me a Mac. Like not someone I could just be like, hey, can I borrow your computer? I do know someone with it, but they're like very far away. I'm like, yeah. Not accessible. So there was that. And then there was going to my high school reunion a little while ago. Oh, yeah. The tweets that I got from people were hilarious because they were like, yeah, was everyone like... And even my mom was like, yeah, is everyone going to be like really impressed that you're like an internet celebrity? And I'm like, no, no, really not. No one's going to know what I do. Nobody, even once I explained what I do, nobody had any idea. Even people in my grade. People are like, that's a job. I'm just like, yes. Yes, it is. Yes, making YouTube videos is a job. And then when they ask what I make them about, I would say it's about technology like computers and motherboards and stuff. And I could just I could I could actually hear I could hear the switch in their brains going. As they turned off. Whenever I do it, they're like, oh, what do you do? I was like, oh, I make videos about like computer components and all this kind of stuff. And then I'm like, oh, right. Consumer electronics. It's like, oh, yeah. I'm like, yeah, there we go. Oh, you mean like iPhones? Yeah. Well, sometimes. Beats. No, no, no. Not that second one. Not beats. Unless we're talking about how Apple bought them. Yeah, let's move on to let's move on to that epic fail of a topic right after we do our sponsor segments here. So actually, like the most exciting sponsor spots ever on the land show. This is the first time we have talked about Highlander. The collaborative project powered by ROG Notebooks. There's going to be some exciting stuff. Jay-Z is not coming on. Yeah, Jay-Z will not be there because he can't handle this mountain. Watch Jay-Z show up at the top of the mountain. I was just going to say he probably could. Be like, yo, bitch, I beat you to the top. Stop. And I'll be like, wow, can I have an autograph? Please, can you sign my laptop? Please. So we are going to be going to the summit of Mount Elbert, a forty four hundred meter above sea level mountaintop. And we are going to be having the world's highest elevation terrestrial land party. It is a collaborative effort with Tech Syndicate. 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They always they always do their best to fix it no matter what it is. And that's something that you can't say about every company. So having been on the inside there, I know how things work and I know that they really do care. So there you go. That's my endorsement of NCIX. Someone suggested that we get Lauren to go on the climb with us. She didn't want to come on the WAN show, did she? No. So I don't know. I don't know. Tell you what, we'll ask her. OK? We'll see. We'll see. I have a feeling our videos would get many more views. I have a feeling that that is a stereotype. OK. That gamers think women are attractive. Have you not seen the... And watch videos for a minute. This is actually... This is unrelated to Tasty PC. This is related to what you just said about watching videos with women in them. Have you not seen the like Brazzers streamers on Twitch? Like, are you kidding me right now? You can't even make that argument. I didn't say that it was invalid. I said it was a stereotype. I didn't say no. You never say no. Oh my god. Speaking of saying no, all the no in the world to this. Apple defines a spec for lightning connector headphones with 48 kilohertz output. Apple piss off. We do not need headphones with proprietary connectors. That is not a thing we need. Please don't make it. If you stop making iDevices with analog outputs, I will... Well, I don't buy any anyway, but I will definitely continue not buying them because that's absolutely horrible. And to get caught up in some kind of race to who can have the highest sample rate on their files is a journey to nowhere. Because it doesn't actually matter past a certain point. Also, there is no reason why you can't have an excellent DAC and an analog connection to the speakers that sit inside your ears. Because effectively, that's all that you're doing anyway. A digital headphone is just one that has the DAC on the other side of the cable instead of having the DAC here and then over there. The amp and DAC actually, both of them I suppose. It doesn't matter. A speaker is an inherently analog thing. There is no benefit to this other than that we are going to be stuck with headphones that only work with iPhones. If they were to actually take the 3.5 inch connector off, then we'd be stuck with iPhones that only work with stupid lightning headphones. Most of which will be fashion trash, I'm sure. Well, Beats. They'll be Beats. I'm sure someone else will participate in the Made for iPhone program. I think they're making sure that there will be a range of products on launch for this. Picture this future, and I'm about to make your brain melt. This already did. Look at the kinds of real companies, like serious companies that really care, like Sennheiser, that participate in the Made for iPhone program. Like the Momentum headphones, for example. Why is Sennheiser targeting iPhone users with these? Because iPhone users will pay more. Sennheiser happened to make legitimately good headphones that are made for iPhone, but it means that the inline controls don't work on Android because they're made for iPhone. Now imagine this. Imagine Sennheiser is put in a position where they have to decide. Are they making their next pair of great sounding, but still fashionable headphones with a lightning connector, or a 3.5 millimeter connector? Could this become a breakaway? I don't know, maybe. Because that would make sense. But that's totally inelegant. And that's not the Apple way. No, but it could be breakaway, and it doesn't have to be breakaway like... Okay, well Apple's already said there will be adapters. So yes, you can adapt your lightning to make a 3.5, but that's stupid. Oh, it is, yeah. Like adapters are horrible. It could be breakaway like it is on that, though. But again, these are $300 IEMs. Not everything has that feature. That's an uncommon feature. No, I know, but I'm just saying for the Sennheiser headphones that you're talking about. But these are solutions we shouldn't have to resort to. I completely agree. Okay. Well, I'm just saying it might not be as bad. I think instead of us playing devil's advocate, because I'm obviously very upset right now, we should have a moment of silence instead. Okay. Okay. Because what I was really hoping for with this Beats acquisition was Beats headphones that looked good and sounded good and were built better. That's what I wanted out of this. This is my worst nightmare. This is the worst thing that could have possibly come out of that acquisition. Well... Maybe not the worst. Maybe not the worst thing, but it's... It's very, very, very bad. It's very terrible and stupid. And I need that to not happen. Yep. All right. The specification could... Anyway, none of that's confirmed, like Apple doing away with three and a half millimeter connectors entirely. These are all conclusions that were made up. I mean, there are ways that the tech could be cool. For example, if you had headphones, something that is easier to have a large battery in, and every time you plugged your headphones into your iPhone, it could charge them or something like that. There is room for this to be kind of cool as long as it doesn't get forced on us. Yeah. So I will leave that positive possibility as the last thing that we say on the subject. All right. No Microsoft Start Menu on Windows 8 until 2015. This was posted by NSF... NFS Underground... On the forum. And the original article is from BitTech. Maybe he's trying to recreate the sound of when your engine is kind of tripping out, when you're just revving, when you're at the start of the line with the... So it's NFS Underground... Okay, so it's not coming in update two to Windows 8. It will be coming instead, possibly with the next update to Windows 8 or Windows 9, depending on how Microsoft decides to roll things out. So this is their new mini modern UI Start Menu. Personally, I don't really care because it'll likely be 2015 by the time I roll a new operating system onto my system anyway. But great. So I guess there's that. Our next topic is the ASUS Sobranko... Sobranko? Anyway, whatever. It's a tough series motherboard with a white PCB. Now, this is an opportunity for me to... I think they already got it. Oh, they already got it. Oh, that's a shame. Because I was looking forward to just going on an ego trip here. This was originally posted by T.Liet. So I wanted to... Because ASUS basically said, look, if you want to see more white PCB motherboards to match your sexy white PCB hardware, we need 500 retweets of this tweet. And they were stuck at like 250. And I was like, oh, on the WAN show, we should just like we should just double it. We should just like crush it so that they'll be like, whoa, where did that come from? And we'll be like flexing our internet muscles. Stop making gold motherboards because they're dumb. Yeah, we don't even care about white motherboards. No, not at all. We just don't want gold motherboards. Yeah. So screw you and your stupid retweets. So, guys, there are 4,300 of you watching the show right now. I am counting on you. I want to double the number of retweets they have on there right now. Do that retweet thing where you retweet and say something at the same time and just say any color other than gold. Yeah. If you can. So, guys, you go find that post. Come on. Come on. Come on, brothers. You got to help me out here. I'm posting this. I'm posting this. Guys, you got to get on this. Help me out. We got to make this thing happen. All right. Someone says it's already at 609. I know, but I still want to utilize our internet mightiness to... And we're trying to move a point. Yeah, we're trying to prove a point. The point is white is not necessarily supreme, but it's a damn sight better than gold. Yeah. I just like not gold. Yeah. I can do something with it if it's not gold. Yes. Yeah. See, I got people saying silver is okay. Silver is totally cool. Silver is totally cool. Black is cool. Blue is cool. Red is cool. Yellow I'm okay with as long as it's like UV. The M power did it pretty well. Yes, and the M power did it really well. Yellow is cool. You just got to do it right. Yeah. So we need you guys to just help us crush it. Apparently, it's over a thousand already. I love you guys. You guys are awesome. Yes, it totally is. You guys are awesome, and you made my E-Pen grow at least three inches today. So I appreciate that. We have some good Microsoft news. Actually, I have a prop for this one. Do you want to cover this in the meantime? Sure. There's not much to say. Microsoft announced that they were going to be... Whoa. Some cables got unplugged. Microsoft announced... We're failing. They announced that you should be able to use the Xbox One controller on your PC back in November, and it's finally coming or is here already. It's here now. They're now available for download. So yeah, and you can connect it to your computer simply with a micro USB cable. So this was posted on the forum by Denikiller37, although I do have to beat them up a little bit. Anyway, the links are in the thread there to where you can get the drivers for both x86 and x64 versions of Windows. But get this. Microsoft is releasing the drivers today at its download site, but the company is also planning to distribute them through Windows Update in the near future. Microsoft, what are you doing? What do you mean? Why aren't they in Windows Update already? Oh, yeah. Okay. I thought you were against it being in Windows Update. I was like, why not? Why is any piece of Microsoft hardware not in Windows Update? Yeah, no, I completely agree. I thought you were against it, and that's why I was like, what the hell? Why is anything not in Windows Update? Yeah. If it's Wickel certified, why is it not in Windows Update? Why isn't that part of the procedure? Why do I have to dink around drivers still? I'm so happy right now. I totally thought you were on the other side of this, and you're not at all. And that's fantastic. Timmy, if you're watching, maybe you can give me an explanation that makes sense, but I doubt it. Why are drivers not in Windows Update? Why do I have to think about this crap? Why is it easier to plug and play a Linux installation and have it automatically work with network drivers than it is a Windows one? That should never be a thing. Ever. Never be a thing. Fail. Every laptop that I've ever tried to install Linux on, perfect. That's all I need is network drivers, because then I can move from there. That's fine. And then every single time that I've tried to install, not every single time, but a lot of times I try to install Windows on a laptop, especially if it's not the Windows that it came with. Horrible. Almost never get network drivers, have to go hunt them down. It's annoying. And a lot of the time, it's not even a matter of like, oh, Derp, it's not on Windows Update. A lot of the time it's like, oh, OK, I better go into Device Manager and like find the vendor ID and like PCI ID string and go Google that and find some post on like Driver Helper Full of Viruses, wah-ah-ah.com. Yeah, yeah. Why do I have to resort to that? You know what? While I'm bitching about this, if anyone from Adaptek is watching, you guys turn your download servers on after business hours from now on. That's super stupid. That's like the stupidest thing I've ever seen. They turn their download servers for their drivers off outside of like business hours. Legitimately, guys, go check. Like I've been diagnosing like a raid card in the middle of the night because that's the only time. That's when you diagnose raid cards. You can take down your server. Yeah, yeah. And like their download server is just off. Honestly, though, a lot of server maintenance happens overnight. So like it should be. Oh, I'm so mad. Like so mad. Ridiculous. People are like, why is he mad today? Because things make me angry. There's a lot of things to be mad about today. Speaking of things to be mad about, this is actually both cool and terrifying. Yeah. So Gun Company figures out how to shoot around corners using Google Glass. So basically they've got a super advanced scope on this gun that allows you to use Google Glass as a site. It also compensates for human error, compensates for conditions. It does all kinds of neat, neat, so keen stuff. There's a short video. It's about a minute long. Tracking Point Labs. You know, part of me is kind of like, do we really, really need more efficient ways to like put bullets in each other? One thing that scares me is like all the stuff that's going on with it. And it's saying stuff right now. This is going to very possibly create a big divide in between civilian uprising potential and government. Absolutely. I mean, it's already there. You can already night vision goggles are already the end of Gorilla. You know, that's actually something that I can't quite figure out why they weren't using thermal imaging to find that Moncton police killer. Yeah. Were they not? It took them over a full day to find him and he was just kind of hiding in the woods. Like, I don't know, maybe it's possible that they're just not that sensitive yet, but I just wouldn't. Did they have military deployed on that? They did have military deployed. I mean, they eventually did find him in the woods unarmed. They've apprehended him now. Do you know much about what happened? I have not been following. I know he killed, like I know that kind of stuff, but I don't know. He killed three officers and wounded two others. One of them was seriously wounded. Yeah. I just didn't know about them catching him. I'm not going to link to any news stories. I'm not going to name him because these people don't deserve any attention. Exactly. So we're going to move on. Dragon V2, speaking of people who do deserve attention. This is super cool and freaking Elon Musk is just the coolest person on the planet. So guys, you should check this out. There's not really too much for us to say about it. I'm going to post it in the pitch chat. I put the main points of the video in here is the new capsule can hold seven astronauts. It has propulsion based landing so it can land on a landing pad. It can land pretty much anywhere. Someone says you can't thermal through trees. So there you go. That's interesting. You can land pretty much anywhere, but more specifically on a landing pad. You don't have to land in the ocean anymore. And the heat shielding and stuff on the bottom is much more resistant and can be easily reused. So if it can land on a landing pad and just have all the propellant refill. Hold, hold. Sweet ice fox says Elon greater than Gabe N. Let's just calm down. OK, everyone just needs to relax. Go ahead. About Elon being greater than Gabe N. Everyone just needs to relax. They're in completely. It's like. Can we all just relax and stop being tense? Thank you. We're looking at different castles here. Different castles. I like that. They're not. They're both the king of their own castles. All right. Sorry. Go ahead. The rest of the points of boats. That was actually pretty much it is. It can carry seven astronauts. It's very reusable. Definitely reusable. And it can land pretty much anywhere very easily. It uses propulsion based landing, like I said. So instead of having this crazy parachute like they did before, where they just parachute out and then drift down into the water. It slows itself down as it's falling through. I think it's I think it's four jets and then evens itself out and then lands with like these kind of spring loaded. Not really spring loaded, but these feet that can compress, not spring loaded at all, but feet that can compress. So it just can. It's actually very, very cool. We've got a straw pole and the inside of this space shuttle is amazing. Have you seen it? No. OK. You can talk about it, though. It's it's kind of hard to describe. Once you're done spamming there, I can try to jump you forward in the video. But essentially you walk in and it looks like super, super clean and super futuristic, unlike a lot of space shuttles that you see that look like mega ghetto and kind of disgusting. And then he sits down in this baller looking chair and swings down this super bad ass monitor setup. It's so cool. Yeah, he's walking in. So he's going to get it. He's going to get in very soon. Here you go, guys. So once he gets in there. Sweet. So very nice seats. I can't like he doesn't talk about them at all, but like they actually look comfortable instead of the terrible things that are in before. And then, yeah, OK, go a little bit back because you got to see him swing down the monitor setup. You can see it's up right now. He'll pull it down. So bad ass. Shwoop. And then if you can actually see the control panels like it actually looks like futuristic and bad ass. I know that doesn't really matter, but like it looks really cool. They there you can see all their monitoring panels and like all the stuff in the middle. He's got spaceship control is that like joystick thing kind of in the middle. And then most of those manual buttons are all emergency things. So you don't have to use the other displays and stuff. They're all emergency stuff. And yeah, I don't know. I thought this was super cool. Yeah, I was watching it. And then I ran out of time. I actually didn't make it to the end. I didn't know he went inside. Yeah, that is awesome. It's pretty freaking cool. How's that straw pool doing? All right, let's check out that straw pool. Castles. OK, castles. Castles. So we've got 42 percent of the votes going to Gabe in 41 percent of the votes going to castles and 17 percent going to Elon Musk. Although I don't think there's really any denying that Elon's or Mr. Musk's contributions to humanity as a whole are probably more more impactful than Gabe ends. But then how is that? That's very difficult to quantify. But because Gabe and could inspire more people if it's not in the same way, it's it's not necessarily lower. And Gabe ended more than just gaming. Digital digital content distribution. And he was a pioneer. Yeah, and he's pushed forward for those like racing that racing thing. I don't know. Anyway, yeah, it's not really. I vote for castles. You vote for castles. You go vote for castles then. One vote doesn't matter, loser. It does. Actually, every vote counts. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to go find it and vote just because you said that. That's fine. It's going to take me a sec to find it. I don't know where it is. I give up. You can find things to vote for on your own time. Yeah, pretty much. All right. Or the images. Um, yeah, I fired up the star citizen. What's up? Oh, yeah. Right. We actually have something really cool for you guys. So I need you to use hashtag Linus Massdrop all one word hashtag Linus Massdrop and send in your requests for what you would like to see a Massdrop deal on. So we're working with Massdrop to basically find one thing that our community really wants to see and bring it to you guys. That's it. It's simple. So everyone take just a minute of your time. Think of something that you think is really cool. Hopefully, you know, electronics or computer stuff or something. And then just use hashtag Linus Massdrop and tweet that out. We will have someone, preferably a lackey and not me, go through them all and compile a list of the most popular ones. And then we're going to pick one from there that we think is really cool and we think would be a great Massdrop item. And we are going to be bringing that to you guys through the Massdrop team. So be excited about that because it's going to be really, really sweet. Awesome. Now, what were you saying about Star Citizen? I was saying I tried it and the mouse controls are balls. So I need to get a joystick. I'm actually going to order a USB to game controller adapter so I can use my old pop gun joystick. But I also have a SciTech aviator that I can use in the meantime. It just doesn't have that same quality feel to it, though. I don't really like it. So there you go. Oh, well. Solar freaking roadways. We're not doing a Massdrop for solar roadways. Especially because they don't work. Sorry to spoil that one. Very cool concept, though. Yeah, give it a little while longer. A lot while longer. And we'll find a way to leverage the sun a little better. Someone says butt plugs? I don't think we should ask for butt plugs. You can get Windows for 50 cents on OPC. It's Ludicrous, ROG, Jay-Z. We're never going to be free of that, are we? No. No, we're just stuck with it forever. OK, speaking of things we're stuck with forever, we'll be back next week. Thank you guys very much for tuning into the WAN show. We will see you next week. I guess normally I say thank you and then I say we'll see you next week. But without this getting any more awkward than it already is, boom. Oh, that's awkward. I didn't leave this in all the right spots. So I need something to do with this here. Yeah, that's it. Good work, Ludicrous. That wasn't my fault at all. Yeah, I'm with it. Highlander, it's going to be awesome. E3, also going to be awesome. Yeah. Or terrible, we're not sure. Yeah. We've never done it before. We'll see you next week.