 Bam, done. Woo! Welcome to the Weren Show, ladies and gentlemen. If you have any issues viewing the stream, go head over to twitch.tv slash linustech. It seems to be working just fine on Twitch. We have done as much diagnosis as we can while the stream was offline, and as far as we can tell, we have no idea. Yeah, it started working on a test channel, and it looks like it's still a little borked right now. Yeah, so that's pretty sweet. I don't know. Yeah, so there you go. What's the bug now? It's just doing the same thing. It just hitches every once in a while. Yeah, well, it was yellow for a while at first on the test stream as well, so we don't know. Can you hover over it? It doesn't say anything, Jake. Hovering over it does nothing. It just says, okay, viewers may be experiencing minor issues, and then it'll probably turn green again. It was green while everyone was complaining last time. So we are gonna start over. We've got a great show for you guys today. The big news, I mean, actually- Johnny Ive. Yeah. Johnny Ive is leaving Apple, but it's also not the end of the world because he is going to continue to be involved. It's okay. Yeah, so Apple might be okay, I guess. Or I mean, it depends on whether you think Apple's okay now. So for better or for worse, okay. You know what, we'll talk about it more later. Intel's internal memo reveals that they are impressed by AMD's progress. Now, that is high praise indeed. That is. For it to be in an internal memo, that's pretty high praise. But again, like I said before we killed the stream, internal memos are basically just blog posts now. Have you read the memo though? No. It's pretty impressed. We'll talk about it more later. But they must have also known this was going to hit media and going to hit AMD. Yeah, I guess. I don't understand what they could possibly, okay, we'll talk about it more later. Yep. This Bladeboard 2.0 spec announced and it's amazing. And probably I'm assuming still won't work at good distances. And a laser can identify people based on heartbeat at over 600 feet away, which sounds totally not creepy at all. Roll that intro. Let's roll that intro. Boom. Those headphones, is that causing echo? I don't know. I don't know how to turn the volume down. I don't even know where they're plugged into. Where are they? Where are they? Oh, they're plugged in way back there. Yay, all right. We got this. Show today's brought to you by Savage Jerky, Madrinas and Squarespace. Oh, here comes a train. That's what we needed. Yeah. That's what we needed. More issues today. Yeah. Perfect. It's Friday, ladies and gentlemen. I will say in the amazing video that I don't know if it's on YouTube or not yet, but the high-fresh rate gaming video. Yes, that actually hit YouTube yesterday, I believe. The train segment was hilarious. That actually happens far more often around here than you guys would probably think. I mean, it's one of those challenging things where the only place that you can find affordable commercial real estate, go figure, happens to be next to the train tracks because nobody wants to live there because nobody wants trains rolling by all times of the night and day when they're trying to sleep or gold out their daily lives. It's just something that we have to deal with because I don't even know if there is any industrial. Not near train tracks? Not near either train tracks or a super highway. Super highway, heavy trucking road, something like that. Yeah, so anywhere where you're gonna have a ton of noise pollution, that's where you stick your commercial zoning, at least here in the Vancouver area. So the reason that it was particularly bad in that video and that it interrupted us more than it normally would, sometimes we would just roll through it. Right now, the train's going, you guys can't really hear it, was because in order to shoot high-refresh rate video, we had to have the bay doors open to get as much natural sunlight in as we possibly could. That's why it was a problem. Interesting. So every time you double your frame rate, you lose an f-stop. Is that right, Brandon? Lose a stop? Yeah, okay. So when you go from 30 FPS, which is what we normally shoot at, to 60, you lose a stop. When you go to 120, you lose another. You go to 240, you lose another. You go to 480, you lose another. Then you go again to 1,000, you lose yet another one. So by the time you turn something up to 1,000 frames per second, if you were trying to use the same lights that we're using right now at 30 frames per second, you're basically looking at a dark frame. Yeah. Like there's not much left. Actually, could we compare that? Or could we? Oh, we'll have a camera right now? Yeah, yeah, like do we have enough apertures on this camera to? Just change the shutter speed. Just change the shutter speed. How do I do that? I don't know how to change the shutter speed. Can I just change the aperture? Which one's aperture? Oh god. Aperture is really weird. This is great. Oh, hey, we got the readout on OBS. So everyone gets to see that. That's kind of cool. Nice. Okay, so we're here. Yep, this is 30 frames per second. So there's a stop. So remember, this is going from 30 to 60. This is another stop. Okay, so now we're at 120. This is another stop. This is what it would look like at 240. Another stop. That's what it would look like at 500 frames per second. And then this is what they were recording at. Yeah. So guys, to put that in the proper context. It looks so bright now. The onscreen display is. Oh yeah, do you mind, Brandon? Thank you. So to put that in context, right now we're shooting with two six foot soft boxes in order to, well, look, natural. So yeah, so you basically need direct sunlight. Now normally when you're shooting in direct sunlight, you would actually apply what's called a neutral density filter or ND filter directly to the front of the lens in order to block out a ton of the light. But when it's high refresh rate you're dealing with, you want as much light as you can possibly get. Even with as much natural light as we could get, some of it was still pretty dark, especially in the upcoming mouse latency testing video that we'll be releasing in the next little bit here. People are discussing aperture, oh, like aperture science. Wait, didn't Jake turn monitoring off? Those headphones are still clearly on. Yeah, they're loud. Can we just unplug them? Not a problem. Yeah, I could. Is it around the back? Oh, sorry. I thought it was on the front. No, it's way around the back. Oh, okay. That's kind of not great. Oh, and it's cable managed. Oh boy. It's like way down there. Oh geez. No, you know what, forget it. I'm just gonna- Like bury them? Nope. Put them under your shirts. I'm just gonna put them over here. Okay. And then in here. Cool. There, shut up. Okay, sounds good. This is the problem I run into whenever I'm not the one who sets things up because it's like, it's not complicated. It's just, you know, which audio source is mapped to which output. But like, if I didn't do it, I don't know exactly the way that someone else configured it. Yeah. And there's also hardware ways to do that with our setups. It's like your dad setting up your home theater system in the 90s. Like no one's allowed to touch it after it's done. Yeah. You know, a Logitech Harmony remote changed my life. Because it's, relatively speaking, once you get your IR blasters positioned, that's the main challenge, is getting your IR blasters in all the right places so that it actually consistently activates and deactivates things. Also, I had to contact Logitech support to change, I think it was either my TV or receiver. I had to get them to add the menu option for power on and power off instead of a toggle. No, it was my home theater PC. That's what it was. So the only option by default is power toggle. And as if any, if you've ever used a universal remote before, you'll know why that's a freaking problem. Because as soon as it desynchronizes, every time you try to turn the system on, it turns it off. Yeah. And you end up in this stupid flip flop and you have to get up off your butt, which is what you didn't wanna do. Always horrible. Because you wanna play video games or watch TV. You have to get up off your butt and go manually turn it on and off. And so get this, I complained about this. They went, oh yeah, that's a known issue. We have to go into your Harmony account and add that option for you. And I went, that's not a solution. So yes, my home theater works perfectly, but can I recommend a Harmony remote to someone else who has a media PC as part of their TV setup? No, I can't because that is a phenomenally stupid solution to the problem. That should just be an option. Because for pretty much everything else in my setup, so I could decide what the activity was. So for your activity, you can decide what the commands it sends are. So my TV has power on or power off or toggle. I can decide. And that's when you launch and when you end the activity, you can tell it which ones to do. But for whatever reason, PC didn't have that option, at least when I set my. So as someone who never had a Harmony remote, why do you even have to tell it that it's a PC? Well, you have to tell it it's a PC because whenever it takes the IR input, which is watch PC is what I call mine. So watch PC, it then needs to blast out one after the other, all the things that go with it. So it has to say receiver fire up, receiver change to this input. And then it has to go TV fire up, TV, make sure you're on this input. Then it goes PC wake from sleep. So it has to know what that code is supposed to be. So it made me so mad because I was like, holding my old Microsoft Media Center remote. I was like, okay, we have on and we have off. So clearly those codes exist because some devices don't have it. And that's just a problem on the device level. But I was holding a remote and I knew it worked. So basically, if you want to recommend this to anyone with a home theater PC, you have to say, buy it like before you even leave the store or no, you'd have to set up an account. So you have to get home and part of the account creation process is calling them. You're just gonna have to, yeah, you're just gonna have to get, now in Logitech's defense, the Harmony support team was excellent. Okay, cool. But it still made me really mad that I had to talk to them to do something that I should be able to do within the menu. Talking to anybody makes me mad. So like, I totally hear you. Nerd life. Why don't we move into like the big news this week. Johnny Ive leaving Apple. So for those not familiar, he's the bald guy with the British accent in the commercials. Yeah. The unapologetically plastic guy. Yeah. So he's their chief design or was. Chief design officer, he's leaving the company. Apple announced it on Thursday. So that's yesterday. He's considered, and I guess it depends who you ask. I'm sure there's. I'm sure there's by many people. I'm sure there's lots of people internally at Apple who are like, yeah, maybe it's time to move on. It depends who you ask, I suppose. But he's considered one of the most important people at Apple responsible for the industrial design and the look and feel of all major Apple products, including the iPod, iPhone and the Mac, which really raises the question, what do all the other people there do? Yeah. No, I'm serious right now. In the design department. Yeah. I'm actually serious right now. Because they have so many designers. Is it maybe like taking his ideas and actually creating them? Like does he just draft ideas maybe? And here's another question. Apple doesn't actually have that many products. Or okay, another thing to be fair about with Apple is they seem to over credit individuals really hardcore. Right. So that's why. They'll be like this individual person is responsible for everything. That happens a lot with Apple. So maybe he's the chief design officer. So maybe he ran those things for all major products. But that's not the way that it gets communicated. I completely agree. But that has been a thing with Apple for a long time. So either Apple basically runs on like eight people. Yeah. Or there's maybe something else going on. Yeah. Because this has been true for like the history of Apple. So anyway. Sure people are gonna be on me about that. Including iPod, iPhone and Mac. So he's worked at Apple for more than 20 years and he's gonna start his own design business called Love From with capital L, capital F, which I'm sure is very important to him. Extremely. Apple will be his first client. So he says, while I will not be an employee, I will still be very involved. I hope for many, many years to come. He doesn't have an immediate successor. So yeah. Interesting. There's a couple of Alan Dye and Evans Hankey will report to Jeff Williams, the Apple's chief operating officer, while I've reported directly to Tim Cook. There's a note in here that says, I've was first noticed by returning CEO Steve Jobs because of his colorful design concept of the iMac. So was he the like carry it by the handle, colorful, transparent iMac guy? If I recall correctly, yes. That makes sense in terms of timeline. Yeah. Gosh, I'm old. I know right. Yeah. So anyway, that's both a big deal and then also sort of a nothing burger just because he's still gonna work with Apple. He's just- Hot take. I don't think they've had very inspiring design for a while. Well, okay. So this is where I... Okay. So this is where- Oof. It gets kind of... So I say a lot that I feel like Apple products are designed for people who don't have a lot to do. So if you look at- Oh, okay, hold on. Quick pause. Sure. When's that competition happening? Oh, not for a few weeks, I think. Okay. Yeah. So what he's referring to is the editing showdown. Jonathan Morrison from TLD is gonna be coming up here to compete in an editing showdown with our very own Taron Van Heemert. That was just OBS-like. You guys should have a quick hot takes about the other platform thing before the competition, independently. So Taron and Jonathan will make their own comments, but I am not there to editorialize. I will be mostly hosting the showdown. Oh, cool. So that's my role. We also are working on a panel of celebrity judges. I'm not going to comment on their status yet because I don't want there to be any pressure on them or anything. But I have certainly reached out for the premier side of things. We wanted a panel of four judges, two that are more steeped in the Final Cut ecosystem, and two that are more premier folks. And so I have reached out to Eber from Hardware Canucks, as well as Nico from the Cordor Digital Crew. Oh, cool. And I have received receptive responses from both, but neither of them are confirmed. So I would love to have them on our panel of celebrity judges. But it's always complicated coordinating people with such busy schedules to be here in the studio to evaluate another. Creators are difficult to wrangle. It really, and I don't blame them at all. I totally get it because my schedule is stupid. Yeah, I literally have no idea when he's in the country or not. Okay, so back to my point about Apple products seemingly being designed for people who don't have a lot to do. Have you ever used Apple's Calendar app? No. It's really, really worthless. Genuinely. Like you just- Google Calendar's great. You can't say, even Google Calendar. Okay, so yeah, that's good. So even Google Calendar compared to, there's a third party app called Business Calendar that's only available for Android. It's not available on iOS. And it is full beast mode. Like tiny text, you can configure it this way. You can have like tiny text. So you can actually read everything. And you can actually tell what the hell you're looking at. Meeting coordination in Google Calendar is fantastic though. Yes. And that's the main thing I like using it for. Apple's Calendar app by comparison simply has no way to configure it with the same degree of display density. So it seems to make the assumption that you either don't have a lot on your plate or you have all the time in the world to drill down and look at things. Oh, you mean like, okay. I thought you meant in terms of one, like you wanted to be able to read everything of one task, but you mean you can read your entire day by making it all really short. You can read the entire month. Like all the agenda items for that day from the month view on this Business Calendar app. And it's just, it's a whole other level. Like I was telling Yvonne because she had issues with, she had some issues with Android, cause let's face it, there's some issues with Android. She had some issues with Android. And I said, look, why don't you try an iPhone for a bit? And she tried it. And she was like, this is completely unusable because there isn't a replacement. She tried every calendar app for iOS. Also really annoying. I have to carry one now and it won't stop yelling at me about Apple Pay. Yeah, yeah, I know, right? And like everything else, it's like, hey, you should use this feature. I'm gonna pop up 10 million times. I don't want this to turn into a rant about iOS, but if you don't have a SIM in it, there's no way to disable the, hey, there's no SIM installed. I know, you're an iPod right now, okay? I don't care. But it can't. It cannot handle that. It's like, no, I am iPhone. I am a phone. Where is your SIM card? I deserve a SIM card. I was born with SIM card privilege. So yeah. Oh yeah, look at this. Asteroid Week says, or Asteroid says, week mode in business calendar is the best. Yeah, yeah, it pretty much is. So anyway, so. I end up with this sort of observation almost every time I go to use an Apple product because the amount of sort of manual drilling down of things just annoys me. And you know what? iPadOS looks like it's going to address a lot of my complaints about iOS on a large screen device. iPad has been very interesting lately. Apple seems determined to resurrect this sort of, I won't say failing, but I will say stumbling business unit. They've had a really hard time convincing anyone who already has an iPad that they should get a new one. And that's been my, I still, the only tablet in my house is an iPad 2. Because only. Well, a lot of the things you're gonna do with it doesn't really matter. You can still do it. Just put the kids in front of it when I need a break. That's basically its only job. You entertain the young ones. And the thing too is that I don't even use it for that that often, but it's still perfect for that because it's an iPad. So you leave it for two weeks and the battery is still alive. You can never do that with an Android tablet. And so the very occasional time that I use it, it's ready to rock and I can go take a nap. It's the nap machine. The nap machine. The nap machine creates naps. The iNap. That would actually be an adorable commercial. They would never do that. Apple's marketing collateral is all about what a creative, intellectual person their product turns you into. No, but like it would be. It's not about getting a rest. It would be cool if they just named it like a million different things. And they could even go back to that, like put the i there and then rotate the word. And they could like, like for this person it's the iNap and it creates naps for them. For someone else it's like the iCreate and they can throw that crap in. And then for someone else it's iGame, whatever. I feel like that could be actually kind of entertaining. They would never do it. No. They would never do it. Speaking of things I thought they would never do, Intel internal memo reveals they're impressed by AMD's progress. Yeah, this is kind of hilarious. This is wild. So I'm gonna try and bring up the actual memo because it's freaking awesome. Okay, yeah, here it is on Tech Power Up. If you guys wanna read the whole thing, make sure you head over there. But basically, here we go. We are now entering the latest chapter of the tech industry's single long running business rivalry. Intel and AMD have been competing for many of the same chip customers for more than 50 years. Oh wait, no, this is, dang it, this is Tech Power Up's introduction. Where's Intel's thing? Following AMD's blah, blah, oh, here it is. Why AMD is now a formidable competitor was actually a subheading in the internal memo. That alone is huge. Right? Oh man. So they basically go, yeah, they've had two years of greater than 20% annual revenue growth, thanks basically to Ryzen and Epic. And then they pretty much attribute it, not entirely, but a big part of it, to the strategic refocus on premium high performance products. Now, I do have to look at that and go, I feel like it's a little bit oversimplified and or even misleading. I'm sure if AMD could have built high performance products five years ago, they would have. They just had nothing. Like they had straight up nothing. Kind of like Intel right now, oh. I mean, it's not like Zen doesn't scale down to low performance products. They can do a quad core processor if they want. I mean, okay, back to a particularly dark time in AMD's history, they could build a tri core processor if they really wanted to. They just don't. That was awkward. They got stuck making just that. Like it scales down just fine. The issue was they just had nothing. Anyway, back to the memo though. So key AMD competitive threats are from high end products. I also think that's kind of another funny one because what do you mean by high end products specifically? The key AMD threat is across your entire product stack. All the way from like 100 to $200 CPUs, which last I checked is pretty low end. All the way to many core data center products, which yes, is a high end product. Maybe what they're referring to here specifically was AMD's focus on APUs because that was the, whoops. AMD's focus on APUs because that was the only thing that they could build that had competitive performance. And only because their onboard graphics were so much better than Intel's, not because the CPU cores were competitive. Maybe that's what they mean by this, but I think again, that's a little misleading because almost everything Intel's built in the last few years on the consumer side is an APU by AMD's definition. Yeah, the height of the APU war was kind of a pretty weird time. It was a very weird time because everyone wanted to like, I think people wanted to support AMD so everyone would flex the APU GPU performance and then no one would run it that way because it wasn't really good enough for almost anything. So really awkward time. Hi Ed, what can I do for you? Did you do the VOs? I didn't. How badly do you need them? Now we can get that next week. We can get that next week? Cool. First thing next week. Cool, thanks Ed. Okay, so let's have a look at some of the other subheadings here. So man, this is like a scary time to be Intel. Like I can see why they're sending out this memo. It's like, look guys, we have to acknowledge this stuff. AMD has recently been gaining some traction in winning public cloud offerings. That's a pretty big deal. Yeah, AMD's upcoming next generation Zen Core products, code name Roam for servers and Matisse for desktop will intensify our desktop and especially server competition. Intensify the forward firepower. The latter is likely to be the most intense in about a decade, which is another way of saying AMD had nothing for 10 years. And it's true. I mean, they're even acknowledging the notebook and the notebooks and business PC competition. That's incredible. Now this is again, sort of misleading. By leveraging TSMC seven nanometer manufacturing, AMD no longer manufactures on chips. They gotta get that in there. AMD can drive higher core counts and higher performance. Now they acknowledge it later on in the memo, but that's not really the main reason that AMD is able to drive higher core counts and higher performance. Yes, global foundries did stumble. We know this, but AMD wasn't on TSMC seven nanometer node for Ryzen Gen 1 and Ryzen Gen 1 was a return to competition. Really it just has more to do with AMD's modular approach to their core design. That is a big part of the reason that AMD can drive higher core counts. And AMD has been driving higher core counts than Intel for a couple of years now. The big thing that's happening now is the IPC improvements with Zen 2 that are making these many core desktop processors now competitive even in single threaded tasks, allegedly. This is all still based on AMD data and or leaks. What can I do for you? Oh yes, here's a prompt to remote. Thank you, Dennis. So one thing that I think is kind of going on in parallel to this is Intel's community communication and marketing, whatever you wanna call it, not necessarily PR to the masses, because it seemed to be pretty on top of it at the very least communicating with enterprise level stuff. But enterprise level stuff, other than trust in terms of it will work, doesn't really care that much. No, they'll use, because a lot of these, so the thing that you guys gotta understand is for a consumer, they buy something with the expectation that it has already been validated for them. If you're designing a supercomputer, like if we were to go to the very, very high end of the enterprise space, if you're designing a supercomputer, you are in some ways expecting the hardware to have problems. And you are expecting that you are engineering a solution around them as part of your design process. That's the reason why you'll see the latest supercomputer spinning up when there's literally a generation newer hardware available to consumers or to the SMB market or whatever the case may be, because that design process happened 18 to 24 months ago. So yes, they get early access to the hardware so that they can work on this design, but there's only so much you can do. The silicon's just not finished yet. Yeah, but I think, I noticed something, so I went to a lot of conventions. I would go to PAX's, like crazy and all this kind of stuff, and Intel started doing something where they pulled out of conventions. Intel was in conventions for a very, very long time. They were huge at PAX up until a couple years ago, I think. Yeah, and Intel was at the start of PAX, and Intel was a big deal there, and they held a big deal position for a very long time, and their booth kind of shrank, and eventually it became a little bit less experiential and check out our crazy products, and it became, look at our partners' products and stuff like that, but it was still there. It was still really interesting. It still brought actually a lot of people in. Compared to many booths on the floor that were hardware-based, they were very active. I know Corsair was really active in stuff too, but they were very active. And then, and AMD didn't really exist. AMD was not, what are you doing? I'm spamming twitch.tv slash LinusTech in the chat because people are complaining about the lag. We don't know what the issue is, but it's something to do with YouTube. But then again, it's happening on Floatplane too. So for whatever reason, our stream is perfect on Twitch. Just go over there. The actually most confusing part is that it is working on Twitch, but that's cool. So here we go. But yeah, so right around when Intel, who had this literally complete market share, although there's only two of them, for processors showing up at conventions, they disappear. AMD shows up. And AMD showed, that was literally the most perfect timing for AMD and the worst timing for Intel ever. Because Intel loses this, and I know ROI and conventions is ridiculous and terrible and hard to track, but. Don't talk too much about that though. We have our own convention now. Yeah. But to tie into that convention, the sentiment you get from those people is really strong. And these are influencers. And then they're gonna go talk to their friends and they're gonna talk on forums. They're gonna do everything else. So it spreads out like crazy. And when you can have that interaction as a hardware company in person, which you almost never have, it's super valuable. And that doesn't mean that Intel not showing up all of a sudden generates negative sentiment. Like it's not that simple, but Intel loses their opportunity to say, hey, we're good too. Right around the time that AMD is coming in banging this, we're awesome right now. Drum, we're super awesome, check it out. And like AMD shows up with crazy booths now that are really interesting. They're doing giveaways. They have like, their booths are banging and they show up out of nowhere. It's just really, and that seems to be happening not just at the convention level. That's somewhere where it's extremely tangible. You can see it happen. Intel disappeared, AMD showed up and they completely took over the convention space. I've been asked as a long time Intel user by, I forget whether it was over Twitter or on our forum or something. But I've been asked, would you consider an AMD chip for your next rig? And I was like, yeah, of course. Like the only reason that I'm not running AMD now is that it isn't the highest performance solution right now. Because the thing is, and I don't want, like this is not a flex thing. This is not like trying to rub it in or anything like that. But I am not budget constrained for my computer. So I've had a lot of people ask me over the last couple of years, well, AMD is competitive. Why are you still running Intel? Because it's faster. It might not be the best option if you're building different price to your computers. Exactly, so depending on what kind of a price point you're targeting, yeah, AMD might make a ton of sense. And I've recommended AMD plenty, but no, I haven't been using it because why would I? Well, that looks like it might change. So depending on how our evaluation of Ryzen third gen goes, yeah, it's very possible. Like people treat me like I've never had an AMD computer. You know what, just for fun, I'm gonna try and list out all the processors I've ever run. I can't remember this. Every time you do this, I'm like, I have no idea what I had. That's gonna be really hard. Okay, so the first CPU I ever owned was a Pentium 90. Like this was my personal tower. I inherited it from my uncle. It was a Pentium 90 in like the early 2000s. So it was like pretty slow. Yeah. Okay, so then the first rig I ever built for myself, Athlon XP 2500 plus. Heck yeah. Bought me that 2500 plus, baby. Then I got a 2500 plus mobile because it overclocked a little better. Overclocked that thing to 3200 plus. But guys, AMD fans, speaking from the heart, from heart to heart here, okay, we were deluding ourselves if we thought that a 3200 plus was actually equivalent to a 3.2 gigahertz Northwood C, okay? That was not a thing that was real. It's 2% of the audience understands what's going on. Next CPU was, I believe it was a Claw Hammer, I wanna say it was a 3200 plus. It was the one with less cache. Was it, or was it North something? Shoot. Okay, so no, not North Bridge. Get, go on, get out of here. No, no. Okay, so Sledgehammer was FX only. And then Claw Hammer was the single core, whatever. It was a socket 754, single core Athlon 64. It was a huge upgrade. And the reason that I went to that was because at the time, games were predominantly, basically exclusively single threaded. So hyper threading, while it was nice for your overall system responsiveness, did not make a difference for games. And games was 90 plus percent of what I did on my rig. So I picked up an Athlon 64 single core. Okay, my next upgrade was to socket 939. And the reason that I had to go from 754 to 939 was super pissed off. Like that's another thing. AMD fans are so quick to point at Intel for retiring their motherboard chipsets so frequently and making you buy a new motherboard. It's like, don't imagine for a second that AMD's hands are clean in all of this either. Socket 754 lasted for like 10 months or something stupid like that. I can't remember what it was. And 940 on the desktop was even worse. So I went to socket 939 and picked myself up. This was the most expensive CPU I ever bought for myself. It was a 4,400 plus. And the reason I went for that was because it was the first consumer dual core processor. Not counting like, I don't even know, was it titanium multi-core? I don't know, it doesn't matter. The point was it was the first dual core processor that you could buy for the desktop. It was the full one meg cache. Was it one meg per core or one meg? Can't remember. Compared to the 4,200 plus, which had less cache. So that meant that with overclocking, you could get full 4,800 plus performance, which was other than the FX line, which was basically dumb because it was just an overclocked, the other thing. So other than the FX line, it was the fastest consumer chip you could get. So from my 4,800 plus, what did I go to? I got an Optron 165. Are you noticing a pattern here? Noticing a pattern? A lot of AMD chips. A lot of AMD, isn't that funny? Most of my growth was on AMD chips as well. So I got an Optron 165, and the reason for that was it overclocked slightly better. That was around the same time I picked up ASRock's very unique AGP and PCI Express board because I had an AGP card at the time, and I wanted to move to PCI Express later. It was a great overclocking board, shockingly, other than the fact that you couldn't run 1T on your memory timings no matter what you did. I tried everything. All right, from there, I went to the E6600. Now why would I do that? Well, because Conroe was a performance revolution. It was a complete game changer. It absolutely curb stomped the aging Athlon 64. And AMD didn't catch up. So from there, I went to Q6600. From there, I went to Q9650. Very temporarily, I borrowed that one from work. I think it was a QX9650, excuse me. Borrowed that one from work, delidded that. I believe I was the first person to ever delid a QX9650. You delidded a work thing? Don't worry about it. Oh, interesting. From there, I picked up a Core i7-920. Man, that was a beast of a chip. Got myself, this was right around the time that Kimanda went out of business. So Kimanda, yeah, remember Kimanda? Yeah. Yeah, so their Aeon consumer lineup of memory. I don't even know if this is interesting to people. They might not even be watching. I don't care, it doesn't matter. So their Aeon brand, they had these one gig DIMMs that they were liquidating for, I think our cost was 20 bucks a pop. And at the time, that was nuts. It was wild. So NCIX bought everything that we could take. And internally, we were buying them at cost. So it was sick. So I bought some, I still have some of that Aeon memory. Okay, hold on, one quick second here, just out of interest. In that era, upgrading your RAM was like a huge deal. And happened a lot. Yes and no. No, we were a little bit after that. RAM was not affecting gaming performance anymore, especially because on the 1366 platform, it was triple channel memory. So you had six memory slots. So when I had, were they two gig DIMMs? I think they were two gigs for 20 bucks. They were, they were two gig DIMMs for 20 bucks and you could get the one gig ones for 10. I just remember when we first started playing EverQuest. I never played EverQuest. Everybody had to go get more RAM. I had a life. Wow, everybody that I knew had to go get more RAM in order to play EverQuest. But everything else worked fine. I had a job and a girlfriend. I did not. I was younger though. Anyways, so sorry. So okay, so I went to a 920. Then I think at some point, I moved to like an Extreme Edition on that platform that I borrowed from work. My Extreme, that's the only reason why I actually switched to Intel originally. Was because I got a Retail Edge Extreme Edition. And I was like, this deal is way too good. So of course, the price performance here is wild. So Retail Edge, speaking of Retail Edge, I believe I went 3,000 series through Retail Edge. And then that was right around the time that I became a product reviewer. And I started more legitimately getting chips that I could use in my personal rig from work. So I've been running Intel since then. And actually my personal rig, even though I upgraded it, I did publish a video about that recently, I ended up downgrading it again. So I'm still running a 5960X. So I am looking for an upgrade. I need Thunderbolt, which might be a problem. Or maybe I could just run discrete cables. 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It's squarespace.com slash when and offer code when to save 10% on your first purchase, which I guess is a perfect segue into our LTX 2019 update on our Squarespace site. The LTX 2019 expo map is here. Yeah. That's the map. So the BYOC entrance is right here. We've got dedicated bathrooms for you dedicated gamers. Is there a dedicated BYOC entrance to like the convention? You can use either, but this is the one that is closer to the BYOC. So we're gonna tell people go this way or go that way. And if you guys ignore us, you will ultimately be able to get where you're trying to go. It just will be less efficient. So question about BYOC stuff, is that like roped off or like how does it? Okay. Yeah. So you guys are starting ahead of the game cause most conventions don't rope off BYOC. Oh yeah. You gotta have it roped off. And then it's fine for a couple of years, then things get stolen and then they have to rope it off. Remember that the BYOC is not LTX. Right. It's DreamHack's BYOC. They're doing it right. So they know what they're doing. That makes sense. So DreamHack's free play is right here. The BYOC is right here. The free play admin and the BYOC admin is here and here. This is the stream studio. I think they're planning to bring some streamers out or something. This is the VIP special guest BYOC. So that's where you'll set up. Cool. Flow plane people. Main stage meet and greet with creators of which we have like two dozen coming now. I love how the flow, where all the flow plane people are is gonna be right next to the meet and greet for creators. So I can just try to like poach people as they finish their meet and greets. There'll be lines for people there too. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Very cool. We're doing a gladiator jousting, motherboard house of cards. We have an entire palette of PCBs. So people are gonna be able to like build up. You're gonna try and build the tallest house of cards from PCBs. There'll be prizes. Nice. We have so much pricing. Nvidia sent over a hundred pounds of graphics cards. I was gonna say, wasn't it like, you did it based on weight or something? Yeah. Yeah. That's fantastic. There's like RTX 2080 Ti's, 2070's, 2060's. That's awesome. Zotac is sending three pallets. Zotac is sending three pallets of pricing. Have they gone mad, son? Yeah. What? That's amazing. Have they even drunken? It kind of makes sense. Okay. I'm gonna give you another PAX history thing. Sorry. Early days of PAX, it was much more hardware based. Like I remember one year, Nvidia was an entire wall in the singular convention center that there was, in singular convention hall that there was. And like many, many, many more hardware. And back then we would come back from conventions with like bags of swag. And we would often like technically make more off of swag than we spent on the tickets and the trip in general, which was like wild, but that happened many times. And now you're lucky if you get like a few t-shirts because it's all gaming companies. I'm not that surprised that this is going on because it's a hardware based convention. So the hardware guys are just like, yeah, take a bunch of stuff, which is so cool. We have 3000 people coming each day, assuming that we sell the rest of the tickets. And like Saturday will be 3000 people. So I'm not saying everyone's gonna get like a full outfit and a gaming piece. But we are doing our best to source as much giveaway swag as we can. And really we wanna encourage participation. If people participate, they will walk away with something. If people don't participate, it's gonna be a lot tougher. That's kind of the way that I want it to be. I want LTX to be highly interactive. Yeah, absolutely. That totally makes sense. So back to the layout. Razer is gonna be there. This is gonna be fun. There's an escape VR. There's actually a lot of VR experience. So is the escape VR like a room that you have to move through or something? I don't know exactly how it works, but it's a third party company that like does these. Cool. Yeah, so it should be pretty cool. It's an escape room in a VR environment. It's an escape. It'll be like trusting and then people actually get. They can't hear you cause you're off mic. Oh, no worries. It's an escape room in a VR environment. There's trusting. Yeah, don't worry, it's fine. There's also like regular VR gaming. And then there's VR, which isn't really VR cause it's more just reality, but a camera. RC cars. There's gonna be a board game lounge, food and beverage. Memex is gonna be there. MSI is gonna be there. NZX QC is gonna be there. BS Mods is gonna be there. In one of the stuff. Cool. So this year there's actually gonna be a bunch of different like hardware brands there physically. And it's gonna be hardcore too. Like CPU Deleting, we're gonna have a booth for that again. So Roman Derbauer sent over a bunch of his Deleting tools. He's actually gonna be there by the way. That's cool. GPU Repasting, that's happening. DreamHack's Indie Playground. Case Toss is back and you get to toss an old Mac Pro cheese grater. Kind of really sad. Gigabyte's gonna be there. The Retro Gaming Lounge and Vintage PC Area are gonna be super cool. DreamHack Indie Playground, that's actually, I love the indie parts of these kind of shows too. So it's gonna be sick. Don't miss it. Yeah. Yeah, it's gonna be sick. Don't miss it. Also sponsoring the show today, Savage Jerky. Yeah. I got a nice little note from Jono. I have to try something new today. Oh. Ran out of maple bacon. Getting more, love Jono. So you know what, that's fine. The Sriracha bacon's actually really good. So I finally tried my Mojo jalapeno hot sauce. Yeah. And it's actually amazing. My favorite part about it is the aftertaste. So if you eat kind of slowly, which I do, it's perfect. You're the slowest eater of all time. Which makes it perfect. Like you're so slow. Yeah. It's astonishing. Meanwhile, David, I went on a trip with him and we both ordered a pizza. And we were sitting on the curb eating it in Germany because I don't know, why not? Sure. So we're eating this pizza. We both eat about half of our pizza. And well he ate his half a lot faster than me. Anyway, we both got half a pizza left. We're walking around after. We decide to walk back to the hotel because we're just chilling in the middle of the night. We're all jet lagged as hell. And he just throws away his box. And I'm like, dude, why'd you just throw away food? That sucks. And he's like, no, I ate it. And I was like, I did not see you. I did not see you open the box, remove food from it or put it in your mouth. The conversation never faltered. The guy inhales food. What a pro. I've never seen anything like it. That's awesome. 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And if you have any questions about the various flavors of cold brew or their micro roast, Shlomo from Madrinas is in the chat and ready to answer your questions through direct messages. All right, we've got a couple more topics that I think we really wanted to talk about today. DisplayPort 2.0, I hate DisplayPort. Yep. I love it when it works. Yep. I hate it when it doesn't work. Yep. And it just, it seems to not work for me at the most inopportune times. If you have a monitor basically exactly next to your computer, fantastic. If you have to do anything funky with it ever, it's horrible. Sometimes it doesn't even hot plug. Yeah. It's wild. Hopefully they fix that stuff in the new version. I don't know how much I trust that, but you know, hopefully. It's crazy fast. 80 gigabit per second of raw bandwidth, effective bandwidth of 77.37, which is pretty nuts. 8K at 60 hertz, HDR. 8K at 60 hertz, SDR. Greater than 8K. Greater than 8K, 60 hertz, SDR. 4K at 144 hertz, HDR. Wow. And two times 5K, so dual monitor, I guess. Yep, if you wanted to daisy chain. Yeah, okay. At 60 hertz. So basically this is the biggest leap forward in DisplayPort bandwidth ever. So one and 1.1 were 8.6 gigabit per second. So you could do 1440p at 60 hertz, which was a big deal at the time. Yeah. 1.2 doubled that, a little more than doubled that. So you could do 4K, 60 hertz. That was a big deal because prior to that, to run 4K, you had to do two cables. Dual cable, which is super annoying. And like tiling on your display, which was really cheesy. It was bad timing. It was not good. 1.3 and 1.4 could do up to 25.92. So that was actually a pretty small leap forward. 4K, 120 hertz, or 8K at 60 hertz with DSC, which is, if I recall correctly, that acronym is the compression, or the lossless compression. And then finally, DP 2.0 with, I love this, I love this. The acronym for it, the code name for it, whatever you want to call it, is UHBR, which to me sounds like Uber. Uber. Uber 20. 77.37 gigabit per second. So this is a tripling in speed. Huge. Nut. Absolutely huge. So they've got not just one, but a few different bitrate modes. The fastest mode in DisplayPort 2.0 will top out at 80 gigabits per second of raw bandwidth, to about two and a half times that of 1.3, 1.4. It also introduces a more efficient coding scheme resulting in less coding overhead. So as a result, the effective bandwidth of the new standard will peak at 77.4, so that's three times. The physical characteristics. The port itself is staying, yes. That's good. Both the port that we have now and the USB-C connector via the DP alt mode, both the official ports for the new DisplayPort 2.0 standard, and the number of pins and resulting high-speed data lanes is remaining unchanged. So it will continue to operate over four lanes. It also retains the packet-based approach to communication, which means that image data continues to be sent as packets over a fixed bandwidth link, as opposed to pixel-centric pixel clock approaches. And so what has changed is that the rest of the physical layer has been almost entirely replaced. So Thunderbolt 3, oh, with Thunderbolt 3, which is now a royalty-free standard, and is going to be called USB-4, I guess, except not quite, because I think Thunderbolt branding, Intel is still going to be using as sort of like their best-in-class implementation of the USB-4 standard that is sort of, that has a lot of optional components. So Thunderbolt 3 is truly bidirectional, full duplex link, two lanes allocated for each direction. Oh, and DisplayPort is focused on sending large volumes of data in just one direction. So DisplayPort 2.0 reverses the two inbound lanes to outbound. Cool. That's actually, that makes a lot of sense. I'm stoked as long as it actually works. Yeah. Yay. And I guess, actually, that's kind of, oh yeah, we can talk about the laser thing. This is the laser one. Sure. Yeah, so it's a new device developed by the Pentagon after the US Special Forces requested it. Basically, everyone has a cardiac signature, and they can read that cardiac signature with an infrared laser. Apparently, it works through typical clothing, like a shirt or a jacket, which surprised me. Wow. But apparently not a thicker, like winter coat, but still a jacket, which blows my mind, and I'm assuming they're gonna have, I'm kind of wondering if they're including windbreakers as a jacket. Hard to say. I don't know. I wonder if it's to do with thickness or to do with layers. Layers might be a problem too. I'm not sure. But yeah, apparently cardiac signatures are already in use for security identification. This has happened before. Canadian company that I'm gonna butcher the name of, but I think it's NIME, has developed a wrist-worn pulse sensor as an alternative to fingerprint identification. Little crazy. Apparently, it can take a little while for it to kind of lock on, but it does work at a fairly far distance. So it's only really effective if the subject is sitting or standing, not really moving around and stuff. Got it. Yeah. That's 200 meters it works from. Pretty wild. That's crazy. Pretty wild. So one glaring limitation is the need for a database of cardiac signatures. But even without this, the system has its uses. But you could probably pretty easily get that, especially at like passport stations where people have to stand there for a while. You could just- Just install it and grab it. Yeah. Yeah. Because you're handing them a passport, you're giving them your name and all your information, so you just match that up and create a national database really fast. So it's called Jetson. In practice, it's likely to be used alongside facial recognition or other identification methods, but in the long term, the developers believe in addition to identification, it could be used to scan for arrhythmias and other conditions remotely. And hospitals could monitor the condition of patients without having to wire them up to machines, which I guess is cool. But it's just yet another way that Big Brother will be watching, and there's no real preventing it at this point. Yeah, this one's kind of hard to screw with. The future is now. Yeah. Just start wearing like a plate over your chest. I was thinking about, but it's not just that, because I think it can see it through your skin in general. Yeah, I guess they don't even have to hit your heart. Because you have a cardiac signature in like your arm. Right. Yeah. So you'd have to have clothing- Lead clothes. Only solution, lead clothing. You'd have to have clothing that like ripples, intentionally. Like actively ripples. You'd have to have active clothing. Active, active IR camouflage. All right then. So thanks for watching the WAN Show, you guys. See you again next week. Same bat time, same bat channel. Goodbye. See you later. It's vibrating chain mail. Vibrating chain mail. I'm still in chat. Super chats. Oh, yeah. Happy birthday, Preston. Happy birthday, Wyatt. LazyAK47 says, saw you in a Pulseway commercial. Any other commercials you're in or will be in? No, not at this time, but it is a service that Linus Media Group does offer, like commercial production. It's not something that we publicize a ton. So the only reason we ended up doing that with Pulseway was just cause like, I don't know, we just kind of ended up chatting about it. Like it wasn't, yeah, I don't even know if it's on our website, but yes, it is something that we do, but no, there's nothing really planned right now. Bob says, cake or cupcakes? You know, I'm not a cake guy or a cupcake guy. Me neither. Give me a good muffin. Ooh. Yeah. Okay, on this topic, cause I wonder if we're the same about this too. Chocolate chip cookie, oatmeal raisin cookie. Oatmeal chocolate chip. Whoa. I don't think I've had that. It's amazing. Oatmeal's just better in my opinion. Okay, sorry, we can keep going. See, I'm not that into chocolate chip cookies because they're usually crappy cookie. Yeah. And they just try to get by on the chocolate. Yeah. Doesn't work that way. Yeah. Illya, Linus, will you ever tell us about that colorful dragon tattoo you had about a half year ago? Yeah, I was just messing with you guys. It's just a spray on thing. Oh, that, people thought that was real? A lot of people did. Wow. Well, I kept reapplying it. So it looked fresh for quite a long time. Oh, interesting. I was just messing with people. Yeah. Video suggestion, a collab with your bower since he's coming to LTX anyway. The problem is that everyone and their dog is coming to LTX. And they're coming for LTX. And I'm gonna be scrambling in the lead up to LTX and then recovering from LTX. So unless they're hanging around for a week, that's probably not gonna be feasible. Other side guy, would you agree that car culture and building custom cars and modding is similar to the PC space? Yes. Oh yeah, definitely. Hey Linus, decided to blow five bucks just to see you make a funny face. Gap to granny. Brian says, Linus, if you phase yourself out, I'm gonna Kermit. What is Kermit? What is Kermit? I don't know. David says, Linus, been a huge fan of your channel for years, taught me a lot, keep up the good work. Thank you. John says, Andy will probably move to four threads per core before Intel just to fully nut kick them. Yeah, they probably will. Oh, what did I click? I don't know. Oh no. The down arrow maybe? Oh crud. Timo, I got my new LTT hat and hoodie with home door delivery. Post girl did apparently say that, so you didn't need to go to the post office. Man, Canada Post rocks in Finland. Great feedback. Thank you. Glad to hear. Shout out to my wife Claire, who is probably listening to this tomorrow, says Seal Team Rix. Hey, cool. Midland says, good evening Linus, would you ever consider building your own studio and what would you need in your dream studio? What a tremendous question. So, if I were to build my own studio, first, I would start with a ground floor with like a library for kind of like a quiet place to sit and editing den for all the editors to sit and work together and collaborate. Like a camera area where we can build up our rigs and tear them down and store them safely and like maybe a bathroom. Upstairs from that, I put a board room. I put my office. I put an office for my wife who does all the accounting so she needs privacy. I put another small office just in case we needed it in the future. Maybe a nice open space so that we could put cubicles or something like that. Nice, nice, nice. Another bathroom probably. Then I'd expand it, okay? So I'd put Nick in my wife's office. I'd put her in mine and then I'd move over to the other side where there would be three offices. Luke had one of them at one point but we would have kicked him out by then. We'd leave one of them open for like meetings. I'd take one of them. Then we'd have like an open space for the writers. Another bathroom. The more people you add, the more people need to pee. I'd move the camera people out into the warehouse at that point. I'd probably start with three warehouse units and I'd do like a green screen, like an LTT set, like a workshop, a tech link set, and then like some storage area. Maybe a little nook for the WAN show. Then I'd probably get a couple more units. I'd add like an employee lounge and some more storage and then maybe like a hardcore workshop with like modding stuff. Sweet, yeah. That's probably what I'd do. Smart, considerate, concise. That's what I'd do. I was being facetious. That's our studio. Yeah, what did he mean? Did he mean that? They probably didn't know that we have a studio. Oh. I'm just teasing. We have a studio. Yeah. We got our studio about four years ago. Yeah. Well, I could understand why people don't know because we intentionally changed the sets to look like a house. So anyone who started watching in the last year or two might not realize that the kitchen that we shoot in all the time is not a real kitchen. That was the whole idea. Wow, that's so weird to me. We wanted the videos to look less like a set and a studio and more like we just shoot out of a house like a normal YouTuber. Well, you do videos out in the warehouse sometimes. Sometimes. Not that often anymore. Not that often? No. Weird. That makes sense. Nikola, I'm going to an English course in Vancouver, but I'm missing LTX. Rude. What could I do that's tech related while visiting? Honestly, not much. Ooh. Redith says, are you going to do something ridiculous and cool with the Corning Optical Thunderbolt 3 cable? Oh yeah, go to FreeGeek. Do that. That's a good idea. Thank you. Yes, I'd love to. They're supposed to send me one, but they haven't yet. Joshua says, there has been a way to add special IR commands to the power sequence on Harmony for many years. I think Logitech didn't want to blame the customer. Yeah, so the problem was that I couldn't. So you have to pick from a menu. Yeah, we went over all that. Other side guy, IMO, EDs haven't particularly taken off because the futuristic design employed makes them look tacky. Yeah, that's a fair point. That's only part of the problem though. Aporik says, Bitcoin is on the rise again. Do you have anything in the works for a mining update? Nope, I'm out. JakeLakesTech says, this is going toward a new stream PC. That's not, the stream PC is not the problem. Also see you at LTX. Okay, see you there. Johnny says, OG, you better make LTX. Just as big or bigger next year, my boss told me he will be pay next year due to he needs me at work and the holidays I had set aside for going so you better. We will try. I honestly can't promise that like, we're gonna have two dozen creators there again because that is costing me a pretty penny. The show itself could expand though. Yes. And then maybe certain creators will just wanna go anyways. Ryan says, do you still ride your SV650? Yes. Other side guy, what's your thoughts on Australia being non-existent in the tech and gaming industry? It's really far. That's the only reason I've never done it. There's actually a lot of tech fans in Australia and there's a huge amount of tech sales that happen in Australia. So the community is actually pretty decent. Getting a show out there is extremely expensive if you're not based there. Yeah, because PAX has one, but I think that's it. Yeah, and it's relatively small. But again, it's extremely expensive and getting a lot of the creators out there, show like PAX is at the scale where they're not generally paying for creators to go. So the creators are gonna be sponsoring themselves to go or getting sponsorships to go and both of those are way more difficult because it's really expensive and the ROI is a little bit different. It's a difficult market, but like, yeah. The tech community in Australia is actually very large. Huge, very vibrant. Yeah, yeah. All right, bye guys. Goodbye.