 We have a special guest here right now with us is John Rettinger from Techno Buffalo Normally we do lower thirds for these guys, but Sorry, John. We did not get our crap together in time today So do you want to do a brief introduction to yourself and what you're all about? Sure, I'm John Rettinger. I run a site called Techno Buffalo You can check us out there or youtube.com slash techno Buffalo where we play with toys So basically you do what we do except like more professional. I don't know. I think you do an awesome job and following your Computer build you've been doing it looks incredible Awesome, so of course the thing that we brought you on for today is not strictly to talk about a computer build or really computers at all because Apple had a pretty big event this week And they had some pretty crazy stuff to show off and now normally when I say yeah, man They had like this event and like they had like crazy stuff to show off I mean like yeah, it was like bananas and like flames painted on the freaking side This time we're talking they legitimately appear to have completely lost their minds What is up? Okay? Okay? Let's let's let's let's start with the watch. Let's start with the watch We'll leave the punchline for later What's up with the pricing and functionality and battery life of the Apple watch? What's your take on this? Okay, so I was at the event. I had a chance to play with The watch and what I think you're probably going to talk about next The watch looks great. The screen is beautiful. The UI is super smooth But it pretty much does what every other smartwatch I got the motor 360 on my wrist pretty much does what every other smartwatch does Save for the cool feature being able to draw little penises to your friends and send them off Other than that the the features just aren't there yet There's no compelling a reason to go out and buy one John John. I gotta stop you for a minute I can draw penises on my wrist and true those to my friends send them right off right off I am so sold right now The funny part is I saw three people doing that at the event Really Wow Not Sure, you're yeah, whatever man So there's a total of at least four then because there's the three you saw and then there's you yeah, yeah probably oh That is great. Okay, so let's talk. Let's talk pricing. There's actually a great there's a great thread on the I'm I'm still getting like my Doc together and all that I'm just completely behind the eight ball guys We've only got John for like another 15 minutes because he has a family or some crap like that So we wanted to get on the air and get talking to him about this because it's freaking awesome But let's talk pricing of the Apple watch so the sport version the like the like kind of Casio competitor, you know the time X, you know sort of class product here $350 to start Does that seem crazy to you for the small one to the 38 millimeter on like a normal deuterist looks tiny like tiny I Yeah, it's about $100 higher than I expected in all honesty. I mean Apple always has a price premium Functionality wise there's no difference functionality between the sport and like the $10,000 edition Function is no difference at all Um the pricing the the pricing is not where I think they lost her damn mind at least from the announcements that they made But they definitely are pushing the envelope for what people are gonna be tolerant towards It does really feel that way I mean, I think I think cuz I mean it's clear what they're trying to do They're trying to invent a category again or at the very least reinvent a category again the way that they did with the iPad but the problem with that is that the iPad was Never really done very well And I think you could make the argument that some of the other smartwatches that exist now Are done pretty well the moto 360 is a good watch the g-watch are is an excellent smartwatch and Apple in my mind that made made Basically there was there was one there are there are two fundamental flaws or or deadly sins that have been committed here Number one is they're asking a huge premium for something that doesn't blow the doors off off What's available already and number two is it's not a watch to me a watch is a thing that goes on your wrists and tells you the time all the time and Something that doesn't have an always on screen to me is just but then again You probably disagree with me because I'm sure you could have a g-watch are if you felt like it you wear a moto 360 argue argue with me for The validity of the screen that's not always on That's tough one oh But you know what I'll play devil's advocate because Halftime I'm only looking at my wrist when I click at my wrist as soon as I bring it up It's on I see what I need. I don't need to see my wrist when it's down by my side I'd rather save the battery life is that the only argument I could make if I disagreed with you ah Okay, so so are we on the same page here kind of going like I've been I've been hoping that All the rumors coming out of Apple were bullshit that it was just It was gonna have an OLED screen somehow And it was gonna only illuminate the pixels that it needed and it was gonna somehow show me the time all day and this whole Like four hour five hour of screen time battery life nonsense was gonna be a complete hokum But it that didn't happen so are we gonna see a quick are we gonna see a quick iteration like we did from iPad to iPad? too where the where the the the Apple watch one just kind of quietly gets forgotten and gets updated for much shorter a period of time and actually Apple watch to ends up being the the one that delivers the experience So this is what makes you really nervous about the watch at that price point. That's right No, nobody knows what the upgrade cycles gonna be here. Yeah, I mean I'd like to meet I'm gonna choose my descriptive words carefully the individual who goes out to spend Ten thousand dollars plus on a watch and like I get going out and buying a Rolex buying something like that Like I can at least wrap my head around that this is a piece of technology that is going to be upgraded probably sooner than 18 months Okay, so here's my issue. So another issue with the watch Oh, yes, we are definitely gonna run at least a couple of minutes past five Please tell your wife not to kill me because okay. Okay, so issue with the watch now We've already talked about how the sport edition the 349 one is already overpriced Let's talk about the ten thousand dollar super expensive ones We'll get into this later on the show you guys how the Apple gold is not actually as much gold as other gold We'll talk about that later, but the The the ten thousand plus dollar watches now we all know why people buy something like that They buy it because it makes them feel like a big man with a big penis But the the justifications the reasons they say aloud are gonna be things like You know, it's it's timeless fashion statement. I will wear it for 50 years This is something we hear said we hear in the apocalypse My Rolex will still keep time when all the satellites or you know diving so far underwater or if I'm wherever In the most extreme conditions, this is a piece of Craftsmanship that will perform to its utmost ability Forever basically we hear these arguments for the Apple watch they have to appeal to that customer How by showing you text messages on your wrist wrong customer? That's that's my man Who is gonna buy the ten thousand dollar watch? Do you think it's? Am I wrong? Are people just gonna do it anyway? I gotta tell you that was probably the most eloquent synopsis of the edition watch that I have absolutely heard it Absolutely. Well said that's who they're competing with and listen I can understand going out and spending a lot of money on a watch if that's your thing people spend their money on whatever They choose to You're right. That's clothes. Whatever anything about Rolex. There's a huge market for used watches There's a huge mark those if they don't appreciate if they don't appreciate in value what some of them do depreciation is not huge You try selling that your apple edition watch the day after apple edition 2 comes out. Good luck Good luck and you want to sell it for the gold that's in it. Yep I think it might sell okay, but I don't think it's gonna sell okay For very long, I think it's gonna be very much a like, oh look how baller I am But then no one's gonna care so it might be a problem So I actually think maybe if when it becomes iterations of two three whatnot They might have more of a hard time selling right old ones than this first one Because John brought up another good point the investment aspect It's like buying a classic design. Rolex is kind of like buying a classic car You expect it to at the very first time Rolex is kind of like buying a classic car you expect it to at the very least hold its value And and something like a dress watch a jewelry watch you expect to do even better because it's worth its weight in gold at the very freaking Least whereas the apple watch doesn't manage to do that either and then and then your point building on your point about it being About impressing the people who are impressed by that I don't think the kinds of guys who you're gonna want to rub elbows with at that cocktail party And would be impressed by your freaking awesome. Rolex are gonna give two craps about your like digital gizmo But I think people will think that they will and then once they kind of realize oh that doesn't really matter And I said later in iterations. I don't think it'll sell as well I can't figure out who's gonna buy this perhaps other than a certain unnamed Boy genius. I can't see who would possibly pick up anything like this. I Don't know you know what's funny is back when the the pricing rumors were circulating I was telling myself You know what just for the sake of drawing more eyeballs to my apple watch review I'll go ahead and I'll buy whatever the highest end one is and you know what it's too crazy I can't even because normally what I would do with something like that is I'd flip it when I'm done and I'd course right I don't even think I'll be able to flip it. I don't think anyone will be what youtubers do you think you're gonna pick this up? I think Marcus might do it and because he can I think I think Lou might But like there's two sales right there yeah, so maybe I'll buy their used one That'll be my trip. I mean it works for a lot of you. I'm not up to like the buy everything school of YouTube Me neither I just it's just not what we do But I mean there's certainly a market for it and people will do and I think I'd watch a video that they did you know All right, we got six minutes left if we're gonna try and get you out of here on time, so let's move on to the macbook Can I can I can I can I launch the opening salvo here? I'm not I'm not gonna talk ports I'm not even gonna talk ports. Okay. I'm gonna leave that for you. Okay, so the macbook apple unleashes the macbook I'm not gonna talk color either Now apple had a macbook and once upon a time The macbook made sense in the in the in the in the grand scheme of apple's lineup We had the macbook pro this was for your content creators This is before apple completely forgot about content creators and then pretended they remembered content creators and gave them that little You know cylinder pc so when they had the macbook pro for creators and it was large and it was heavy and you lived with that Because damn it it was powerful. It was good Okay, then they had the macbook that was the consumer model That was the one that had you know kind of everything that Katie needs and katie could buy that and be confident that she could facetime or you know Happy hour or whatever it is that people do on macbooks. Okay, then they introduced the macbook air And that made sense. So air was light and pro was pro and the macbook was like the vanilla one now We've got the macbook a thinner lighter air What What is this naming? What is this naming? What are they doing? They explained this to me you were there surely you had an opportunity to ask someone So that's my exact if the macbook is all about thin and light What the hell is the air about why did they even refresh the air? Why is the air still existent now the air looks so busted with its giant ass bezels and non retina display like it looks So old and busted and I imagine the air now has giant profit martins with it. I can't I can't see why somebody would buy an air now Okay, but then hold on so let's move into the next There's more but wait, it gets even more ridiculous Okay. Okay. I promised i'd let you do this one. So what's the gotcha with the macbook? Okay, so There are two gotchas and the ones I am being talked about before I get to the big one. Yeah What is the M processor? Yeah, like I get it fanless Yes problem. I don't mind the M processor So I okay, i'll let you finish but i'm actually going to argue this point. Go ahead though So so are you i'm curious to test the m processor and let me at least say that i've tested it on pcs If it's as capable as everybody's suspecting then that's a no argument I'm not expecting to do a heavy 3d rendering or video editing on the computer. If it can play starcraft If I can edit some photos on it, then you know, that's probably gonna be good enough and if I can play 4k videos back from YouTube Then I won't complain and that's a non-issue the big one for me. I'm sitting here at my office and at home I have a similar setup. I'm looking at an iMac and to my right. I'm looking at a Thunderbolt display Which I'd like to continue to use Well, well you just suck at life apparently yeah Imagine you you believe the lie you invested in the Thunderbolt ecosystem I'm a you're a sucker Okay, so new MacBook comes out with one port USB C First of all USB C is great one port for everything love the idea of USB C You can charge it external batteries all adapters great but one port There are a billion adapters that obviously gonna come out third party But $80 for the Apple sanctions adapter let you do what your computer should do out of the box and beyond that my $1,000 display is Useless to me. It's a USB hub. It is a big ass USB hub. It's a really beautiful one. Yeah, so I took my MacBook with me to the Apple event Let's say next year. I want to take my MacBook with me to the Apple event. Here's what I need I need my MacBook. Yeah I need a charging cable. Yes. I need a USB adapter. Yeah, do and go for an SD card. Yeah, I need another USB adapter that I can plug in a thumb drive. Yeah, and or I maybe I need another USB C That's just or just one USB adapter and a hub like even an unpowered hub So now at the very least I need two dongles or one dongle and a hub If I could break in there something if I forget that or lose it or God forbid it breaks That computer is you I mean that computer is useless. It's a beautifully designed Gorgeous useless piece of crap to me at that event. You could you could bring two of all of the above But then let's talk Brandon bring five. Let's talk. I mean both Lenovo and Asus have gone full-on shots fired mode at Apple over this computer Lenovo showed the yoga 3 and as soon as showed the UX 305 and they went what is going on here? We're we're I think it was what has yoga 3 was thinner and UX 305 was slightly thicker But actually has ports and I'm kind of sitting here going. Okay. Hold on a second Apple Let me let me comprehend this for a second I'm a try because I probably won't be able to but I'll try anyway because you deserve it You have billions of dollars or something. Therefore. I should try to understand you You are gonna save me point two millimeters and then I have to carry Like a bunch of dongles so I have to legitimately buy It's like that It's like it's like my objection to the iPad at the beginning and I still object to the 10 inch 10 inch tablet form factor I don't think it makes a ton of sense I called it the uncariable device at the time because it doesn't fit in your pocket and it doesn't justify carrying around a backpack For it. So unless you have a purse which it don't you can't carry it and that to me is what a laptop that requires Dongles is it's an uncariable device because I'm gonna have to get a dedicated bag to carry the MacBook and We haven't even talked about the color yet because I'm gonna want a bag to put that in because it is obscenely ugly So if I think that this MacBook is making the yoga 3 Pro and the surface Pro 3 going to sell even better I mean in case you think you're gonna fly off the shelf especially with Windows 10 coming the yoga Pro 3 is awesome and has ports That shouldn't even be a selling point That's what the world has come to why is why is actual ports a selling point? I mean Apple Apple has done this to us before I mean are they just so Arrogant that they've gone. Okay. Well, they've accepted that we outright refused to put a micro SD card reader in our friggin phones For the last eight years or however long the iPhone has existed people have accepted that so screw them Let's take away all the ports from everything We're doing the announcement and you heard Johnny I've always come over again The whole unapologetically classic thing came back to my mind, but I like conditions. I'm going like this. Oh They smell delicious I don't know I just delicious parts unapologetically plastic was the best line he has ever spoken ever ever spoken ever So, okay the colors The space gray looks great. I don't get what's up with the colors. They're space gray and silver. Why are you so mad? Gold so don't buy it. Well, okay the problem the problem is okay. Okay. Okay Let's go back and sort sorry John you can go at any time. I know you have to go That's fine, but but I want to talk gold products for a minute. Do you remember how the and John? I don't know how closely you follow PC the PC world like motherboards and crap like that I'm option, but do you remember when a sues launched their gold series Z 87 motherboards? They made all their motherboards gold and you know why they did it they said because we are the gold standard We are number one in motherboards and as much as that was a very Taiwanese Rationale for it for better or for worse. I believe they were actually the first to kick that sort of that stupid anodized blasted gold finish and And kind of go. Yes. This is the future and We hated it before we hated it then there was gold I were there before okay I'm not sure about the timing of that So don't quote me on that but the point is they did it and we destroyed them for it. We absolutely destroyed There's no option. There's silver and space gray though now Apple's gonna do it. There's silver I know I know but Apple's gonna do it and the whole industry is gonna go Oh people demand gold and they're gonna make gold products. You look at Samsung's doing it already HTC is doing it already When did gold not like yellow gold turn from like a tacky color for old people to Hip and fashionable. I I don't like it I just find it hard to be mad at this when you can easily buy space gray, which looks really good or Great tend to agree. I mean if that was the only color option I would be in a rage Yeah, if the only color option was gold I would be going after this harder than I went after it too Cuz this is ridiculous and you're gonna see you're the color of your laptop more than you receive color your motherboard Which is nuts, but there's there's silver and space gray and and Apple seems to like their colors I don't think they're gonna narrow it down to just one color either until we get pink for next generation. Oh, yeah Yeah, yeah, let's get let's get a piece not gonna attack anyone. Actually. I would like the pink Yeah, I'm totally the pink. I'd be totally down for the pink one. Can we get that thing recorded? It's recorded that to be noted for iPhone 6s Linus will have The pink bird that is on the internet. Yeah, it is done. I would do it. I would do it 100% Yeah, I'm playing this back by the way come September I'm just letting you know So okay. I mean those were those were the highlights This is what I really wanted to get you on to like to really like to talk about because I know that mobile devices is You're friggin wheelhouse. I figured maybe you could shed some light on this. Yes I have no like I have no like a shadow. I did a whole video on it being like I don't know why you People buy it people buy people will they'll sell out. Yeah, well like I Don't know how much they'll sell it Like will they sell out and then be hard to get or they sell out and then kind of sit on shelves after that They will sit on shelves for like a super long time. Hopefully I think we'll see Post post Steve Jobs Apple man, it's not the same. Yeah There's reports of Apple's demise are obviously exaggerated, but I don't know what I don't know what I'm not saying demise I'm just saying it's very different now that it is very different I mean, can we go can we go like can we put our cynicism hats on here for a moment? I wish I had mine. It's in the closet over there I have a cynicism hat and can we just kind of go well Apple had to reinvest their Sapphire glass, you know facility they had to they had to repurpose that for a data center So they got to figure out how to sell you more iCloud storage or something So they were like, well, how about no ports? Brilliant, let's do it. Oh my god, no ports. Can I can I play devil's advocate for just a minute here? Absolutely Okay, so I'll do it for the watch and the MacBook If I were Apple and I was you know running a business such as such as they do and I was Tim Cook say listen We make our money Not in hardware profit margins, certainly they're there Yeah, they're definitely there and they're definitely their iPhone business obviously huge through the Google Microsoft Our bread and butter now is just becoming our app ecosystem becoming our ecosystem Right anything that we can do to get people inside that ecosystem to spend another 99 cents on another app That's probably already on their phone that they want to put on their wrist That's worth us doing and even for profit margins on this watch are 10% if we spread it our release cycle to 18 months because people maybe aren't gonna want to buy a watch every year By time month 14 to 18 rolls around those profit margins are 40 to 50 percent And now we only need one out of every thousand iPhone owners to buy a watch and we still make money Just as as an advocate I can see the business case That's not very Apple though. No and in the meantime we'll figure out what the hell people are gonna do with it Like when we'll come up with some killer feature for the next one. Yeah. Yeah, and that that's that's the iPad one argument I think we'll create this device. We'll see what on earth is going on and then we'll iterate quickly and make it way better Yeah, and then for the I totally read it for the MacBook. I think that is like their their halo car Let's show the world what we can do We can do this because we're Apple we can make a keyboard that supposedly has double click modes It doesn't even click because we are Apple will make the most beautifully designed laptop Who gives a shit that it only has one port? Look at this thing. It's gorgeous Is your Audi r8 practical only has two seats is your friend Lamborghini practical? It only has two seats We got one port. I got one port because fucking You're buying this for the design not for the performance if you want more ports buy one of our busted MacBook airs The cost of the Additional ports is even gonna factor into it that much because it's just gonna automatically be bundled every single time They're buying a MacBook. You don't care. They're already spending $1,200 on a core. I don't care The the thing I don't like is having to kind of haul it around and then you can just Detach the experience and I'm gonna I will lose it if I had a MacBook that thing would be gone in three days Max that's how I'm myself a lot I'm in the same man the lost and found of like every University English class is just gonna have like an entire bucket of these adapters It's really dongles everywhere. Yeah dongles as far as the eye can see Yeah, I I just straight-up crazy Whenever I don't have HDMI I spaz on a laptop But you remember what user yeah, who's buying it? Yeah, a lot of users that are buying this will very rarely plug anything into it unless it's like speakers or headphones Because you've got a keyboard. You've got a mouse. You probably don't need video up. Well speaking of plugging Let's get John to do another plug for for where you guys can find Him and his opinions on Apple and Android and all that good stuff before he gets back to his family Before I do that. I just want to say I love what you guys do I think you guys are actually awesome anytime I get a chance to come on here I will do everything I can to make it work. I follow your post on Instagram. I love what you guys do I think you are some of the best in the industry at it Thank you. If you want to check us out phones tablets Just me getting super excited about it. I'm excited about it. I'm excited about it I'll it's phones tablets. Just me getting super bitchy and cranky. You can check me out at youtube.com technical Buffalo Or technical Buffalo calm but but pay attention to this guy. This guy is a smart man and You know, hopefully I get a chance to come on again soon. Maybe you can film a video together We should totally do that. We have never collabed on anything Can we find a reason to collab we can do like I'll build a PC and something Let's find and I'm being honest. I'm gonna email you next week and we're gonna find something to do. I've got a couple ideas in that department, but you guys could do like a Like if you did like a tag team battle of like destroying the new Apple products Oh, you guys did like literally like a tag team matched video Where you like tag each other in for different points and like we have it like all edited and staged It looks like an arena or whatever and you guys just smash this thing. We will find something. I'm sure I don't know that's just the first thing We can do a great debate and just like yeah, like yeah, exactly. I'd love to like wrap it or something Yeah, you know, I don't know where this is going, but just you two I don't know if you're on the same team. It'll have to go somewhere against each other. It'll have to get I'm on board man I'm on board. You guys have like a streamed coin flip like a week before and when you have to go on the side of Defending the watch. Oh, wow You flip a coin Guys you're on the computer for a week. Oh, I've got a lot of people asking for us to have you as as like a special celebrity Guest on scrap yard boards or something like that. That'd be super cool. Okay, whatever it is We'll figure it out and thank you for the kind words. It means a lot coming from you cuz I've been following you forever since before I was like making YouTube videos pretty much. So thank you I'm gonna thank you guys for having a good rest of the afternoon up there and hopefully we'll get a chance to talk to you soon Alright, later, man. Bye guys All right. So guys that was uh, oh well, that's a wow crying I'm basically the worst. Okay, so thank you guys Thank you to John for joining us here on the land show. That was an absolute freaking blast I mean, I don't know how much more we have to say But what I will say is we definitely need to roll our intro because we haven't done it yet You can see the So today's show is brought to you guys by Linda calm Also Squarespace and the Dollar Shave Club make your mind good make your website good and make your face look good Yeah Make everything look good So let's go ahead and we are gonna do a little bit more Apple talk, but not much They are lowering the price of Apple TV and you know what? I'm just gonna I we never did like Victoria's Secret did a great job of the post on the forum We never gave a shout out to him Yeah, so you can basically check out Victoria's Secret's post on it and he's got it all like tidally organized with like little spoiler tags And all that stuff But there were a couple other things in there that were really important So first of all, we only talked pricing for the entry level the 38 and 42 millimeter sport edition So that's 349 and 399 you post this in the thing I know I didn't go ahead you can get the stainless ones for between 550 to 1100 and then starting at ten thousand dollars for addition the addition addition Which we didn't we didn't even rip on with John the audition The edition it's such a great addition that it's called addition. It defines addition. Thank you Unapologetically edition. That's a good that those are both pretty good lines 18 hour battery life according to 90 time checks 90 notifications 45 minutes of app use and 30 minutes of working out with music playback per day So, okay, that's the watch we got through that s1 processor Siri accelerometer blipity-bloop. Okay, so we got some MacBook stuff. We definitely talked to MacBook. It is beautiful I will give it that high resolution. Can't remember. It's like a 16 by 10 something by 1440 2304 by 1440 because Whatever conventional resolutions screw those things. Here's the stupid adapter So you can actually have a USB port and an HDMI out. Okay. I told you I didn't have time to look at any of this stuff How do you plug in headphones? So What are you an idiot headphones? Is there just no I guess you're actually I don't think it has one I think you're expected to use Bluetooth. Yeah, really? Yeah Man, that sucks What if I want to use like Non Bluetooth. No, you're an idiot then you're doing it wrong. Yeah You're doing it wrong. Yeah, so so like no Thunderbolt is the kicker to me here. Yeah, that's super weird with with Apple being You know, they might have other versions of this breakout dongle though Like they could have something later on in line where you can have normal headphones and Thunderbolt and well type C is not gonna Not gonna carry Thunderbolt. Oh Yeah, so like nope So there's that I haven't looked at this at all I didn't know that was type C yeah that But assuming knowing them I thought it was actually gonna be Thunderbolt Why is it type C because their pants on head ridiculous? That's so weird Thanks, Yahtzee for that thing that I use all the time. Um, Apple TV is now 69 bucks HBO is coming with HBO now and the entire HBO catalog super cool Wow, how many cord how many people are gonna cut the cord if they don't need their HBO subscription on cable? I'll probably get that combo. Although I'm not a fan of a lot Yeah, so it's gonna be exclusive to Apple at least for now But at 69 bucks at 69 bucks the Apple TV is a bargain. I have one Yeah, if I could get HBO I'd if I could get HBO now I'd get an Apple TV and even if you even if you don't have aren't invested in the Apple ecosystem Like even if you're not gonna cast from your phone to your Apple TV or whatever else Apple TV is still a great product even just for Like streaming from like a home server or something like your media collection Netflix it's a great little Netflix box Although not as good a Netflix box as the upcoming Nvidia shield, but then that's $200 So if you don't need to do 4k Netflix, then what about like Steam link? Well, okay So this there's a whole bunch of other reasons why you might want something other than an Apple TV But for strictly media consumption Apple TV makes a ton of sense, especially at 70 bucks I really I would massively prefer Steam link to be completely honest But at the same time Steam link would take up a computer and doesn't have HBO now and doesn't have HBO now There's that but the thing is I can't even get HBO now because HBO now is only US isn't it? Super strict about that aren't they? Yeah, I'm not I'm not sure Well, it's region locked but it's pretty easy to get around like I think HBO now is being really restrictive like Credit card locations and like PayPal home addresses and stuff. Like you can't sign up unless you have a payment Option from that region. Well, I'll have to rely on the twitch chat to correct us on that. But yeah, I don't know I hope apparently there is a three and a half millimeter port on the other side. There you go So if that if that's its own dedicated thing, I honestly don't think a lot of you don't need that break Oh, so headphone jack USB 3. Well, you can't plug in like a USB flash drive So period unless you have a type-c flash drive and you're willing to unplug your power to plug it in So it's like people are starting to use stuff like Dropbox and drive super dumb though. I know I'm just saying I don't think it's gonna be As impactful. All right. All right, everyone. We got it. We got it. The headphone jack is on the right I I have not done as much. Okay, so I'm gonna be forthright with you guys I have done almost two videos per day this week of my normal on my normal one video per day schedule So I am not I am not as prepped as I would normally be for WAN show We just filmed and it's not even we did like all easy videos We did a hardline build blog over the last couple days, which is like oh It looks pretty sick. It's pretty awesome. It's really nice. So so whatever whatever whatever Okay, so let's go back to the let's go back. Okay. I said that was the last Apple thing No, I actually have one more Apple thing. You're just a huge Apple fan also posted by Victoria's Secret You want to go ahead and I think I linked that one already. Oh, okay. Well, whatever This is the this is the the the amount of actual gold in the Apple watch and this is a great Article on lean crew.com and it talks about how you should probably get their websites made by Squarespace Yeah, because it looks awful. Um, we'll do sponsors later, but um Okay, so basically the way that a carrot works a lot of people don't know this. Nope. I didn't okay So so carrot for diamond refers to the weight the actual load like the weight of diamond now carrot is a measure of weight for gold but actually refers to the percentage of mass which Colloquially we use weight and mass interchangeably here on earth since we're always gonna be dealing with the same nine point eight meters per second squared of Force from the earth which is gonna allow them a given mass to weigh a given amount on earth But of course it'll weigh something else somewhere else. So if I if I interchange mass and weight, you know what? screw off so basically carrot is a measure of of of of weight or mass or whatever the case may be now with gold the 18 or the 24 carrot or the 10 carrot or whatever Doesn't actually refer to the entire mass or weight of the item. It refers to the percentage of the total volume volume of the item that is gold now Normally when you make an 18 karat gold something or other whether it's a watch or ring or whatever else You would mix the gold with another metal in an alloy such as silver a much less Expensive metal because this does two things number one is it reduces the cost and number two is it actually makes the gold Usable pure gold is so malleable. It would be I think 24 is still an alloy is here pure. I forget what it is for silver It's Troy whatever the equivalent is pure gold like 99.9% gold would be pretty much unusable for Jewelry it would scratch all over the place. It would be heavier it would actually be heavier than then something that's alloyed with something else and It's just totally impractical on top of being more expensive now Normally you would alloy it with a metal what Apple has done is they have found a way to kind of create like a ceramic Gold mixture instead of a metal metal alloy. So what this has done is a couple of things It actually has some positive effect. So positive effect. Number one is that it makes it more scratch resistant Positive effect number two is that it makes it lighter And I guess well, that's pretty much it positive effect Number three for Apple not necessarily for you is that it makes it cheaper because one cubic centimeter and this is from the article of Regular 18 karat gold so the amount required to make a watch cubic centimeter of 18 karat gold contains 11.7 grams of actual gold one cubic centimeter of Apple's 18 karat gold contains 5.43 grams of actual gold less than half the amount and this is because carrot is the percentage of the material by oh sorry did I say by volume? I think it's by mass. Okay, whatever anyway It's the percentage of it takes up a bigger volume blah blah same weight ratio. Yeah, so so percentage So percentage by mass is carrot and because the ceramic is so much lighter than silver The volume is high but the amount of gold in it is low But the carrot is high because the ceramic is less dense and lighter. They should use aerogel Well, anyway, the point is your Apple watch contains less than half as much actual gold as a regular 18 karat gold timepiece would be so Personally, I'm not gonna get all pissed off over this It doesn't make sense to me to be all mad because Apple found it. You're not gonna buy it anyways I'm not gonna buy it anyway so that that's a thing but I'm also I wouldn't be upset anyway because Apple is effectively delivering what they're saying they're delivering and They're making it more scratch resistant and harder Which is which is good if I'm investing in something like a watch that I expect to you know Have for 50 years except it's an Apple watch so I won't whacking it against a door by accident Or I'll be carrying something and it'll grab it or whatever. Yeah, I'll probably be thankful at some point that it's more durable Yeah, but Someone's like Linus I came here for tech talk. I don't understand not mineral talk. I don't understand Okay. Well, don't don't worry too much about that The point is the Apple watch doesn't have as much gold as you probably thought it did Not that you cared because you weren't going to you weren't going to buy it. Anyway, I certainly wasn't All right. So I guess that's that's pretty much it. Should we move on to some actual tech here? Let's talk AVG Working on awesome working on identity like protection Glasses that like have an invisible like field that they put in front of your face to make it more difficult for face Recognition to recognize you an invisible field. Well, it's invisible to the naked eye You're not a field Not even close to how it works here's a picture You want to talk about what's going on here? So when it when it detects like a flash or a camera taking a photo it'll it'll do the thing on the right They already have clothes that do this the material is covered in it so when you take a photo of it it glows like crazy and kind of pulls the light there instead of everywhere else and Makes it look like there. There's a darker zone around it. So it's very hard if you saw the dude on the right He looks a lot like the dude on the left. Yeah, but with a hundred percent certainty It's a guy with a beard and especially for software. Yeah, it's gonna be designed to pick up Landmarks on your face and then compare against something else These are gonna be a real bear for those to deal with for sure now to be clear This is not technology that is available on a commercial product yet by any stretch of the imagination on the clothes I think it is just not on the glass. Yeah, so so what are what are we? What are we calling it? So infrared lights and retro reflective materials on the surface of the glasses Return the flash of the camera and infrared lights obscure your face in a photo since cameras pick it up But human eyes do not so much like the night mode on your you know Your camcorder from the 80s or whatever most things don't have a night mode these days Yeah, where they have an infrared lamp that illuminates the scene these will have an infrared lamp that goes right in the camera sensor And basically makes the image a complete mess. Yeah, super cool and AVG figures this is an important step towards For an important step due to evolving technologies like Facebook's deep face technology, which is an improved system for identifying faces I'd buy glasses that have these on it and and that's this that is a very good point because I wouldn't go and buy these glasses I don't want those glasses. No, but if you pearl vision or whatever had you know Oh, it's an X dollar adder. It's 30 bucks for the face recognition Locking load that they love that if you can have some little adder whatever like oh, it's only this much more glasses They're a big investment. You might as well just do it They're right a lot of the time exactly that's I don't know glasses places don't have to be that pushy because they're like Yeah, this is actually like kind of a really good idea Do you know I know they're paired for really do you know how much money my parents saved getting flex on frames? For my little brother when he was like eight. Yeah, probably he would have broken those glasses so many times And it's a it's a little adder so they make like another 50 bucks or 75 bucks or whatever anyway Yeah, speaking of making another 50 bucks here another 75 bucks there AMD Microsoft and Sony and Nintendo are all Gonna be pretty the happy as China has finally lifted its ban on game console sales Sorry what I said cod bros are gonna get wrecked it is I mean all reds not like Chinese people weren't finding ways to buy Consoles it's estimated that I forget who this is from but someone that in an article I was reading so don't don't quote me on it Estimated that a million game consoles are sold in China every year even with the ban But then we're talking China with like over a billion people a million a year is Nothing this is gonna be huge for Anyone involved in in selling game consoles. I mean this could be a huge shot of adrenaline for all of the aforementioned companies and AMD is a big one here because for absolutely No extra R&D and sure it's at their contract price Which I'm sure is very you know thrifty for Microsoft Sony and Nintendo given that AMD won all of the bids against their rival Nvidia Yeah But it's a nice little shot in the arm for AMD because they get to move a bunch of volume of the chips that are powering All the current gen consoles. Yeah, it's awesome. It's almost completely untapped opportunity over there sales bands I'll stuff like this are just stupid anyways, so So it's it's nice to see China's sort of going. Oh, well. I guess there's PC games, too I guess we're doing absolutely nothing to prevent people from playing games if that's the objective I guess the sort of the goal of getting everyone to make every all their console is completely in China And I think it was even restricted to what was it like one region? They wanted to put all the factories. I remember like there was we had some discussion about this before So blah blah blah, okay. You know what forget it. Let's just let that business happen and awesome Here's just kind of a this is a very this is a very quick one original article here is from the verge I just thought this was this is kind of interesting. I have input on this. We'll see where this goes all right, so Facebook did you post this in the twitch chat? I am working on awesome Um it's almost like we know how to run this show now almost almost maybe in a couple more years. We're not quite there yet Yeah, can you believe when shows been a thing so like? Years now I know I remember before the company started in it. I Not as Wancho, but the live stream did yeah, yeah, so the live stream is almost three years old I think like two and a half years old now. You've been on the live stream for well over two years now. Yeah Yeah, okay, so Facebook removes the feeling fat Emotion con under pressure from online Activists so you can see there's kind of an online protest going on here fat is not a feeling Hashtag thumbs down Facebook I have an easy solution to this do you want to go first though? But no you do your solution first. Why don't they just change it to feeling bloated because sometimes I'm feeling bloated Okay Mind ties into this very well. We had mono burritos. Yeah, I was feeling kind of fat. I guess bloated Yeah, like whatever we I mean Luke and I each eight burritos. It's amazing This room is not a veritable gas chamber right now. Maybe it is I've been holding it in so okay. That's good We both eight burritos that are like like the size of a small mammal Yeah, you know and like a fairly hefty full of beans and cheese and meat and like Did we do we get exactly the same burrito? Yes You just tell Nick to get whatever I get don't you yeah for the okay, okay? Okay, he never told I just told him I get something with chicken And then I remember hearing him go through every possible ingredient with you and you like specked it out I'm like okay. Well, that's probably gonna be better I'm too lazy. You figure my own and then it showed up and I was like, yeah, it's better It's like we have a mind meld for food because I went to a restaurant with him where like I Actually tried we always ordered the same thing like one of us orders whoever's familiar orders And then whoever's not familiar just gets the same thing and I tried I went through the menu and I picked two things And I was like, okay Luke. I can't decide on these two. Which one should I get and he goes Those are the two I always get And I just rotate every time don't really know which one I like more Fantastic terrible Anyways, yeah, I don't know. I I really don't think this was a malicious Thing and like okay one thing that I thought was funny, too Is there going after that but I'm feeling ugly is still an option and to me, okay I'm probably gonna offend someone because hashtag fat is not a feeling is Definitely valid fat is a state of being but not afraid it should have been bloated. It should have been bloated for one thing Feeling ugly is something that a far greater percentage of people are going to have a lesser degree of control over Than their body fat percentage. Yeah, and I'm just gonna leave it at that Feeling ugly to me should be much more offensive than feeling fat and the fight was over feeling fat not feeling ugly and feeling ugly still And ugly is definitely not a feeling unless it's a self-esteem Concern and like I can kind of get like there's probably better term for it again. Yeah, was it bloated feeling disheveled? Yes, there you go. Like oh, I just got back from The Tough Mudder. Yeah, and I and I look dead and there's dirt all over me And I'm feeling gross. I really need a shower and I need a cat nap because I'm looking disgusting Yeah, and like that's that's what it means and I hope we all understand that yeah, but but if we're gonna say, okay No, the actual definition of the word from dictionary.com is the only thing that matters Then feeling ugly is a lot more offensive to me Disheveled makes way more sense or or maybe even something else. I'd be fun with disheveled. It's just because like Okay, you know what? Never mind Apple's research kit did in 24 hours what would normally take 50 medical centers a year This is pretty cool and this is something that we glossed over a little bit when we had John Rettinger on because this was a really Really like like groundbreakingly cool announcement from the Apple press conference Do you want to run through this while I scroll through the thing here? I don't know enough about it again I didn't have enough time. I'll go over a little bit. Basically, it's really expensive to run research programs You have to get a whole bunch of institutes online Expensive have to try and get people to volunteer or pay them How are you gonna get people to volunteer and I would never volunteer for a medical experiment man. It's sketchy, right? Even a survey they call me up. I'm like, I don't know whatever. Yeah, so they're moving that away from these giant Multi-million dollar projects to oh well You can just kind of do it on your phone and it'll track things potentially automatically And like you don't really have to worry about it. You just tap these two things. It'll it'll track your workout schedules It'll track whatever it tells you things like the condition of the air in the region you're in right now Oh, there's a lot of big particles a lot of small particles a lot of this deepity bloop It gives you your like your heart age. It tracks your movement. I mean, that's a big problem this is a great this is a great quote people will people will say things incorrectly they'll lie to their doctors and The iPhone can be like actually they were physical for this long this week Which is say three hours instead of the 16 that they reported Yeah, and and this so aside from inaccuracy being a major problem the cost so This is from the nine to five Mac comm article Apparently and this blew me away a typical Parkinson's research study with 800 participants over five years could cost 60-million dollars The Parkinson's app had 5,589 participants as of the morning of March 10th Tuesday, I mean the kind of data is the data perfect No Is it better than asking someone like me who I couldn't even tell you what my last meal was before the burrito? The only reason I remember I ate a burrito was that I can still taste it in my mouth every time I burp Like I don't remember that stuff if you're like, oh, how many hours did you work out this week? I'd be like Six Is that right? Is that like what you want to hear? I I don't know So and I know not everyone's as bad as me But the point is if it's just on your phone something people habitually carry anyway That's freaking awesome and and already like Stanford has piped up saying that this is this is meaningful and helpful and They're not exactly a Disreputable source on on that kind of on that kind of stuff. So I'm super excited I think I wish I had an option to do this so cool I don't I mean, I'm sure androids gonna clone it. So there's that will they though probably eventually it might take a while Yeah, I mean is there anything the iPhone had at launch that an Android phone doesn't do now. Let's look at it that way What would Google give to have all this data but Google seems to be going a different direction You just got trump carded fool I Can't say anything against Google one more data Yep, that was that was never an argument, you know, sometimes we have arguments on this show where I'm like He's gonna win this one or he might win this one. But we were going One asked me when when I was doing the like, okay one thing that people don't seem to understand There's a few things that like blow my mind that people don't understand one all the people that I was trolling at PAX East Definitely knew who I was every single person that video that one was awesome. The guy that told me yeah, that's fantastic Every single one of those guys in that video or the or the Approached me and like said hi and wanted that was the idea That was the whole idea is I was like when Luke and I were planning this we were like, okay How do we pick people to troll and it was anyone who walks up to Luke? Yeah is gonna get trolled Yeah, that's how worked. I would preface it. I would be like I'm going to be a dick. This is gonna suck It's not gonna be great. I I told them honestly, I want you to attack me I want you to throw back but they always were it They all went for it because you were like you were like because you get to be an awareness tactics video Yeah, and they're like, yeah, man, and I'm like, but you don't understand and you were just like a jerk Yeah, I don't think you had it in you. I I it took a little bit I didn't think you had there's a few interviews in there that didn't actually make it that are in the very beginning So I was being too nice and I had to be like, okay And the thing is what you don't see is after every one of those interviews where I'm like we get to not a proper end But I'm just like, okay, I have to stop I'm like, I can't do this anymore and I'd like apologize and shake their hands and I'd hang out with everybody afterwards and just Talk and talk about the like actual conversation instead of this just trolly rant Yeah, and then like it was it was actually a lot more friendly than it appeared I don't remember I was going with this right But the reason why I was so good at that was because of this Oh sitting talking to me 100% because I'll have to devil's advocate something and I'll believe in it not at all But like to make the conversation interesting I'll have to just start throwing things in the air so that you can defend them or I'll have to defend something because you'll be Throwing things in the air and like it made it so that I could more on the spot come up with things Oh, man, which is hilarious. 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All right speaking of People support speaking of support valve was given an F in customer service by the Better Business Bureau and this is Is Awesome The awesome thing about this is not that valve got an F That's not the awesome part. That is the completely expected part. Yes So this is the original article here is from Kotaku and it's actually a pretty it's a pretty fun read But the best part is this response from valve business development authority Eric Johnson Valve doesn't really consider the Better Business Bureau a priority The BBB is far less useful proxy for customer issues than reddit. We don't use them for much They don't provide us as useful of data as customers emailing us posting on reddit posting on Twitter and so on What? Your crap BBB rating is for the 717 complaints that were filed against the business and the failure to respond to 502 of them Talking about how you know, oh Twitter and reddit are better All that means is you're not paying attention unless it's posted in public. That is bullshit Yeah, that is nonsense. Valve support is Terrible crap that is basically valve saying we don't care because it wasn't posted in public That was why we didn't bother to respond shame on you valve We love valve as much as anyone but that response was awful That was the worst thing valve could have said. Steam is fantastic But if you've ever had a problem with anything to do with your steam account You know the like odd kind of gross taste in the back of your mouth every time that you worry Anything is going wrong with your steam account because you're screwed The chance of getting a response even through steams it comes eventually I always get one like a month later, but it's slow like I've actually had them weeks later I'm like, dude, I'm a paying customer. I have hundreds of games. I am very much a paying customer I've used your service a lot. Yeah, the fact that I can't get help at all for weeks is insane Yep, and the fact that you have enough money to invest in customer service I know it's one thing, you know, we can talk about like we we we've got a lot of people We griped about one plus but when we griped about one pluses customer service We griped about their business model and that their business model that we should have all seen this coming because they're selling a phone at no margin How were they possibly gonna support it with valve? They they can use some of their hat money to support their customers I don't think that that should be an issue. So that's and you know, it's problem We love steam Steam is fantastic valve is great. Their customer support is absolute garbage, but they're great We hate EA and they're garbage, but their support is fantastic Yeah, if you decide to buy one of their games. To be clear their policies. Yes are garbage Yeah, like the fact that we had to contact their support to get more Activations for a game that is DRM'd through their client Yeah, the fact that we had to get more activations in order to change hardware configs on it is rubbish Yeah, but the fact that they dealt with it really quickly and professionally And they were nice like oh, sorry, we're gonna upgrade the I could talk to someone on the phone Yeah, it was on the phone. Yeah, they oh, wait the deluxe edition. Yeah said sorry for the trouble Here's the digital deluxe version. They did write by us. Yeah, whereas valve phone calls like alright That was actually kind of it took a little while. Yeah, but a little while was like an hour instead of like two or three weeks That's right. There's a huge difference because I was able to just put my phone on Speaker and just do whatever on my computer and wait until they like I'm okay waiting on hold as long as someone's gonna deal With it at some point here. Yeah, and they were all super nice I think there's two different people I talked to on the phone They're both super the first lady was like, ah, this is way above me. I've never even heard of activation issues before Yeah, I'm just gonna move you on immediately and then the dude after that was like, oh, yeah We don't usually run into this but I don't know I can Okay done. So basically shame on you valve for not caring and I've got people in twitch chat saying Oh, the BBB is crap because they can't get companies to do stuff Well companies like valve not giving a crap about their BBB rating is the only reason the BBB wouldn't be able to do Something through them because like basically that's what a BBB rating means. It means that that company Did crap when you need to be contacted them because I worked at NCIX and NCIX has a good better business bureau rating Because when a BBB complaint comes in it was like it got escalated Immediately that is how a BBB complaint should be treated. It shouldn't have to be public Yeah in order for it's something to get escalated and dealt with that's wrong. That's a completely wrong wrong outlook so Yeah, all right. Let's move on to this this tech report article Scott Lawson and those tech report mad scientists those guys They were determined for Science to kill half a dozen SSDs So they had a Corsair Neutron GTX and Intel 335 series a Samsung 840 series and 840 Pro and two Kingston HyperX 3k 240 gigs actually they're all 240 to 256 class Drives and what they did was they set them up on a test bench to run over and over and over again Anvil's just random data right 10 terabyte right thing so basically the idea was They were gonna kind of go okay well you know hey these drives are rated at X number of X number of terabytes according to the resiliency of the flash and Well, let's see how far they go so let's um let's drop in on the on the finished graph here This is a really cool article the coolest thing about this is that it took 18 months to wear out the SSDs literally writing to them Constantly so let's go ahead and I'm not sure if I'm actually looking at the right one Casualties on the way oh here we go. I was looking at the original the original article The original article there so that showed all the SSDs this one has a really great summary They did such a good job of this and the point of this Wasn't which one of these SSD to be used by in fact many of these are not even that great options by today's standards Because they're 18 months ago. I can even buy all no I know the point of this and you guys should definitely check it out on the tech report podcast Later on if you want to hear them really talk about all the analytics But the point of this was our SSDs reliable can we can we count on them or should we treat them like Some hard drive makers particularly at the beginning when they were feeling very threatened by SSD We're treating them like oh they have this like countdown timer. It's like Crap, what's that status in Final Fantasy 6 where you have a timer on you and when it counts down doom gets cast condemned yeah condemned like That was how we were expected to look at SSDs and in reality Maybe not so these are the ones that failed first you can see the Intel 335 had no reallocated sectors up to 700 terabytes and the only reason that one failed was actually because Intel builds an account down timer that says okay We don't trust this flash anymore. This is such an Intel thing to do like you're way beyond What this drive was supposed to do we don't trust that like you're beyond what we said it would do into what we? Think feasibly it can't do any more than this or like at least not reliably like we think they can all get here Yeah, it's such an Intel thing to do it turns off it goes into read-only mode So you can pull all the data off it then it breaks itself so like I'm mostly okay with that because a lot of users wouldn't know how to deal with reallocated sectors or Dispray there's okay, so reallocated sectors of failure of a like hard drive spitting out for the last time and SSD Frying off or very different so the first one Was I think what was it a hundred yeah a hundred at a hundred terabytes? Started having to reallocate sectors, and this is a TLC TLC NAND drive so that's the 840 But didn't actually start to output to output errors until around 900 terabytes okay I think the first one did I was the Intel right and the second one was one of the HyperX 3k's it looks like And that one made it to 800 terabytes yeah Blah blah blah blah blah blah at least the data was still If the HyperX didn't respond after a reboot and Kingston said the drive won't boot if it's NAND reserve has been exhausted All right the next one was for the 840 series The neutron GTX didn't actually reallocate any sectors until suddenly at 1.1 petabytes It finally was like it spat out a bunch of errors and died And then there were the two that lasted and these ones both went past two petabytes so the HyperX Right here Yeah, Kingston HyperX 3k 240 gigs so they were able to compress a lot of the rights which actually helps with NAND We're gonna cause for one a lot of people in the twitch chat don't understand what the Intel thing did I recommend going actually Reading the way a lot of you are saying this information. Yeah a huge amount of people in the twitch chat don't get it So yeah, you guys do need to you do need to understand that reports article so Anyway, the point is SSDs are not as fragile as we thought they were even TLC SSDs are able to handle way more than we thought they were able to and it's the six is still a small sample size but every single one of those six was able to last well beyond its expected life and Well beyond what any normal consumer would possibly be able to do to this drive within its reasonable lifespan So I thought that was just a super cool article from the tech report, and I'm amazed I think it's so cool that they stuck with it for 18 months. Yeah, that's actually really cool I think that's just awesome. I'm happy there wasn't any like catastrophic issues I actually have an idea for a similar long-term test that I want to do had I talked to you about this I don't think so. I want to do push or positive pressure versus negative pressure versus even airflow in and out and Dust filters and then see after like a year or two years, which one's actually the dustiest Real world man Interesting, which I think would be pretty cool. We could definitely do that No, we did there'd be space We need to sponsor for like case and like fans and we could just put some like old motherboards in it or whatever Like it wouldn't have to yeah be like even working hardware. Yeah, we just want to see how dusty it gets Yeah All right What else we got on the show today? We don't have much time because we got to take off out of here to go film channel super fun We're gonna do drone racing in the new warehouse. Just gonna be awesome That's interesting. Drone's won't last that long. Hopefully it works well. Oh Yeah, I just saw that too. Oh you guys need to see this We finally have a new t-shirt design and I think this might be the best one yet This was made by Jack sack the guy who does a lot of the fan art based on the WAN show And I really I love this design I absolutely love it so What what just happened responsive design man? Yes, Teespring needs to use Squarespace or something Alright, so this is the like ah, man. Okay. Well there you can Kind of see it better over there. There's there's the design. Are you hardcore? Do you stay up late? This is the shirt for you. I should get this shirt and then do another 24 hour charity stream Absolutely Absolutely. So this is over on teespring.com SIFP for Apparently it's ie not the site people are like people are like is are we vulgar? What do you mean vulgar? There's a cat we're talking about the cat on his head Sleeping sleeping cat. Why what were you thinking cat is asleep and or and he's drinking he's drinking LTT do Yeah, and Yeah, so I I love this design. I'm definitely getting a hoodie for this one I that's my that's my thing is I just buy hoodies for all of them now really so yeah I'm gonna have the hoodie collection. I've got the Highlander hoodie. I've got the keep on digging hoodie That was like Yeah, you still have the art asset for that right? Yeah, you could still you could still get a make one But mine will be original. Yeah. Yeah, I'll always be a little bit. That's my favorite T-shirt of ours. It looks really good. It does I don't know why I don't know why it is that wearing like Corsair Intel and ASUS logos feels so good And like I'm like sure the design Highlander in the mountain and stuff. It looks sick I'm gonna figure out what we're gonna do. Yeah, we got to do like some kind of like new world record attempt or something like that For this year no idea what that's gonna look like but I still want to do like Like link cable Pokemon battle while skydiving Or something I don't know are you high I don't know Lander oh You were at one point This is potentially very cool news media tech to license AMD graphics It's almost like they want to be a Snapdragon competitor AMD knows a thing or two Although you wouldn't know it from their flagship desktop parts about power efficiency and graphics Although you would know that they know a thing or two about graphics It's the power efficiency that I was kind of ribbing them about Um, and he knows a thing or two about graphics media techs CPUs are getting a lot better than they used to be Interesting so it could be Qualcomm plus Qualcomm CPU GPU Intel plus Intel Media tech plus AMD that could make for like think about this Because remember media techs high-end is not necessarily gonna go toe-to-toe with Intel or or Qualcomm's high-end But this could be a mid-range part that kicks butt and is a great value. That's really cool I am super stoked to see what new developments come out of this story right here. Yeah Also this apparently the original so not that was posted by opcode on the forum Oh, I'm really sorry if there's people who have been forgetting Oh, I want to go back you want to go back and just just do a round of that This one was posted by CM 25 46 and I'm gonna run through this while Luke compiles the names there So originally Tom's hardware posted an article claiming to have an inside source at Microsoft saying that Nvidia named II Multi-gpu configurations would be possible. So Blah blah blah was talking to a Microsoft rep will blah blah blah, etc between Nvidia and Intel I mean AMD. Sorry. Hello upon checking it will support multi GPU configurations between Nvidia and AMD AMD direct X 12 now since then there have actually been articles written with this post from CM2546 as the source but I Don't I don't know if maybe that rep was just confirming that Nvidia and AMD graphics cards would work in the same system in much the same way that they already do today or If they would actually be able to render part of a frame and render another part of a frame and actually work together because I can Assure you guys that if Nvidia has any say in it that will not work. Yeah Yeah, like to actually use both of them can even install Nvidia drivers while you have CCC running. Yeah, I mean you can install it and then restart and see if he can run Yeah, you can kill CCC and then install the Nvidia driver and then yeah watch it again or whatever But like but if they if Nvidia can do anything to make that not work, they will And I'm pretty freaking sure they could I'm pretty sure that they can Where is my twitch chat? Why am I in what is going on here? I Thought I had a computer. Yeah, there it is okay, so Wait, did I not I never posted the the teespring campaign? Okay. Well, I'll do that after in the meantime There's a YouTube video that we did this was this was awesome I like barely slept that week speaking of the sleep is for pussies t-shirt YouTube video that I Did where I had SLI and crossfire running in the same PC at the same time You couldn't run a game on both of them at the same time and that is rumored to be a feature of directx 12 But you could have them both in the same PC and you could switch between them. No problem. I will be very surprised if If that's ever if that's easily do Essentially always on DRM where it checks for CCC more often than just on the installer. Yep Yeah, and I mean you look at how hard Nvidia has worked to block physX from being used Yeah, like even if you're willing to buy both and put them in the system They're like no JPEG. Yeah, forget it, bro so a Quick like shout out round. We've got Victoria's Secret Exhilarop code zero mind red round to John is on main big struens Zerid's best zero You tried brown is best X R Y Z best and CM 2546. Okay Um, I guess oh the FCE. Oh, this is cool and gadget article. I'm not gonna talk about this for long, but I'm FCC released their 400 page document So the whole Republican it's a document Nobody can see so I wish I could tell you about how horrible it is But I can't well they release it after it was voted in or whatever didn't they? Yes, still But it's not like we're not able to see it and it's not like we're not able to get all mad Yeah, if it's bad now, yeah, I mean Yeah, yeah So so there's that did you post this already? The FCC thing no. All right. I'm just I'm blasting my way through the last few Don't the whole idea of rapid-fire is that we don't technically have to do all of them. That was why we yeah Oh, no, I'm just seeing if there's any that I think are interesting There's a new Chromebook pixel whatever the star citizen client is rumored to be around a hundred gigs cool Which hopefully is more than just uncompressed Titanfall textures And I think that's pretty much it. Thank you for tuning in to the WAN show No after party today because we have to go race drones around in an empty warehouse. Yeah and Last week will be my last week on WAN show for last week Yeah, next week will be my last week on WAN show for three weeks. I am going to Malaysia Singapore Thailand Brunei and Japan I'm gone for three weeks two weeks of which is a family trip We're going to see my wife's relatives who are scattered all over Southeast Asia And then the last sort of five days of which is going to be a trip to Japan To check out the Omron factory. So we're gonna be doing another factory tour, which is extremely exciting We might have a WAN show it might be two Two only because the third one would be when we're in Japan, right? I might try to do way I might only I might only be gone two weeks then I really want to do WAN from Japan WAN from Japan I really want to get that done Okay, it just sounds awesome. We'll try I heard they have good internet there. So should be fine from Japan. All right Oh, thank you for tuning in all seven thousand of you. We had an unbelievable show today Awesome, especially the time zone changes and everything people showed up. I think it was that awesome guest I think did you see the audience figures while John was on I did. Yes. Yeah, he we should have him more often I said this last time I was like we should bring him on. I was like we should bring him on right away It's been over a year Yeah We should get hooked up for the video collaboration. Yeah, we gotta do something Although someone else I'm not gonna say who but someone else has already called dibs on the first celebrity guest So we are already planning scrapyard wars round two and we already have a celebrity guest lined up Who is going to be familiar to a lot of you guys and is gonna be a lot of fun Yeah, so thanks for watching man show guys. We will see you again next week. Same bat time same bat channel. Oh, right I never posted the the shirt the sleep is for pussy You guys should definitely go check out the shirt. It's a teespring campaign So it's only available for a limited amount of time, etc, etc Why now while quantities last this limited edition design? This man has or you'll never have it and your friends will rub it in your face all day like the Highlander hoodie I've got people speculating that it'll be Jennifer Lawrence Tim Cook I'm just the nipple Linda dot-com Squarespace dollar shave club