 you you you you you you you you you you you you Hello, welcome to Sugar Breakers and the Virgins Gadget Show. I am Neelay Patel. Sadly, Paul Miller is not here with us today. He's sick. Send Paul your best wishes. He's at Future Paul on Twitter. But we have a packed show for you. We're going to take your calls at the end of the show and gadget emotional support, tech emotional support. That number is 1-844-4-emotions. So start thinking about... We're not going to fix your problems. We're just going to help your heart, really, and your soul. We're going to play with a bunch of levitating gadgets, which I will tell you during rehearsal completely ruined me. So that's going to be exciting for everyone except for me. But to kick it off, Heim Gartenberg is here. Stefan Etienne is here. He's been reviewing a lot of gaming laptops for us. They're going to talk us through some of the coolest gaming laptops on the market. So Stefan, I think of gaming laptops as being big and stupid and huge and crazy. These are not. What's going on here? What do we got? It's part of a new revolution in gaming laptops. There are two things going on. One, there's Razer producing what we like to call the Windows MacBook Pro equivalent. Harsh. Right to the jump. If Apple made a MacBook Pro in this color, I would buy it. Just straight up. Razer makes one, so you can buy that. So what Razer has here is a GTX 1060. That's a pretty decent graphics card. You can play most games at medium high settings on it. The only problem is they offer different screen options, which change how much capability you have. Because the graphics card has to work harder to push that display. You can buy 1080p display with a high refresh rate, which is what I recommend if you're going to play games on a Razer computer. But this particular one has a 4K screen limited to 60Hz. You really won't ever max out any video game on this. It just can't handle it. But that's why we have other systems like the Zephyrus. Well, same with this one. We have a MacBook Pro over there. I just want to point this out. Because Razer's everywhere. People love them. Razer's pretty popular. And almost every other product, they have a very unique design sensibility. They do. We're about to look at a touch screen. I mean, there's no denying what's happening. No, definitely. There's no denying that this is just a black version of this one. This is a 15-inch screen. This is a 14-inch screen. Yeah, these bezels are... They're huge. They're huge bezels. But it's a pretty screen. And it's also a touch screen, which the MacBook Pro does not have. So Razer actually fixed the bezels on their smaller one, too. They have the Blade Stealth, which is the 12-inch one, 13-inch one now. And that's like the 13-inch body. And they completely fixed the bezels on that. They just haven't shown that love to the Blade over here. But yeah, you got... So that's my main issue with the Blade. It's out of date compared to the other systems that we're looking at and that we have here. It does have a decent support selection. So you have HDMI, USB 3, USB-C. But that's about it. That's all you get. That's enough. Get this out of the way. Even if this was updated, this is still like a different class of laptop, these guys. Right. So you were telling me earlier, there's a big difference between something like this and what's happening now. So Razer does make gaming computers, but these are really more enthusiasts. These have all the ports, and they're using a new technology that Nvidia calls Max-Q. It's what allows you to take big graphics cards that tend to go into really big 7-, 8-pound systems and put them into slimmer systems that you can carry on a plane that are 5 or 6 pounds. They're sort of more manageable. And they're usually in the 15-inch range. So this is the first one we're looking at. This is the ASUS Zephyrus first generation. It uses a GTX 1070, just like the Origin over here. But it has one thing that a lot of people have mixed feelings about, and that's because the keyboard is moved to the very front of the laptop. I hate this keyboard. I hate this keyboard. I like this. I used this computer for a week, and I feel bad disparaging this keyboard because Paul is supposed to be here to defend it, and Paul loves this. I love this keyboard. I use it for a couple of months. I get it. I love it. I like it because for gaming, it's closer to the edge, which works for most gamers. And in this case, you'd never use this touchpad to play games. You'd probably use something like this. So it's more in line, whereas most laptops, you'd be shifting your shoulders, and it would be a little bit awkward. So it works here. And then, yes, this is actually a little bit odd, but it's something that Asus does to give you access to a numpad. It sort of works on the touchpad. Why would you want a numpad in your life? Well, some people use Excel on their gaming laptops. It happens. How much is this thing? So this one, spec'd as it is, is about $2,100. Yeah. This also, you see the keyboard, the light-up keyboard, backlit keyboard. It's white ringed around here. This is all very gamer-friendly. This is all very gamer-friendly. These keys are to be used in games like League of Legends and WSADs, used in every other video game. So it's pretty suitable. I have to say this thing, this whole thing seems horrible to me. I'm just like, I've used it. I played one game of PUBG on it earlier on your account, I will say. On my account. And you died. And I immediately died. That was ridiculous. It wasn't even a good death. I just jumped out of a car. No. I was doing okay. But this was not great. This is all to house the video card? This is all to house the video card and more importantly to cool the video card. So one special thing about this laptop that we don't see on any other system is, if you raise it and you pull here and you can't get this on your hand, you can see that there's a little bit of airspace corrected right here. And if you plug it in, this also glows red. So it also has an aesthetic purpose to it. The only problem with it is this is a removable panel, which is very flimsy. It's pretty poor plastic. So this will warp over time. Wait, does this flex? It flexes if you pull it. You've got to open it. So open it. Yeah. It rises up. Yes. And then there's like... Are you seeing this? Yeah, it flexes. It does. Are we getting the top cam? Yeah, it does. That's not great. That's my other theory why the keyboard is on the bottom, because if the keyboard was up here and you were typing on it, it would be like typing on a sponge. It's like if you push it hard enough, you slow the video card down. I hope not. I will say, by the way, on the keyboard, they changed it in the new one. They have a new one? Yes. We're going to get to that? We'll get to the new one. What's this third one? So this one is one that we looked at in February. This is called the Origin Evo 15S, and it has the exact same specs as the Zephyrus. Same processor, same amount of RAM, and same graphics card, and the same screen. The only difference is it's much better built, and as you can tell, there's not as much flex. You can also make different lighting zones on the keyboard in case you're into that kind of thing. It has a fingerprint sensor as well. So you can use Windows Hello. Yes, you can use Windows Hello. It's Windows Hello compatible, and it has a lot more ports than the Zephyrus. It has an Ethernet port, a couple extra DisplayPorts. Can I just show this to the camera? Yeah, definitely. So Paul came by earlier to give this to me. He's like, look at that. That's like a good selection of ports. It's a good selection of ports. You've got Ethernet. You've got a USB. You've got a headphone jack. Even a dedicated mic and audio. That's like MacBook Pro level support. And then it's like, boom! And yours is a SIM card. Like, HDMI. That's beautiful. Two DisplayPort, two Cs, two USBs. That's beautiful. I will stress, though, that unfortunately these USB-Cs don't carry power. They're only for data. Okay. How many USB-C cables would you need to charge a gaming laptop is a question I would like someone to answer. And that's why it uses a proprietary port. And what's the refresh rate on these screens? So they're both 120 hertz. And then the Razr is just at 60? Just at 60 because it's 4K, but the 1080 can go higher than that. So if you were buying the Razr, you would buy the 1080p screen? I would buy the 1080p screen and save a couple hundred dollars. Yeah. So what's the catch? These look and sound great. They're thin, they're light, they're faster than the Razr. They're a little more expensive, but like, what's the catch? The catch is the battery life is terrible. The Zephyrus tops out at two hours maximum. We're talking power saver, one Chrome tab, it's ridiculous. And the Origin is a little bit better at three hours, but you won't get on a plane flight with this. You'd need the power brick. That's not great. But the kind of argument you can make is any gaming laptop will never run at full clock speed without its power brick. So you would never game on the go really, which is kind of counterintuitive, but it is what it is. Yeah. So I will say in a chat, Kluski says this thing is hideous. True. And then the legend, legend, you didn't do a great job of typing here, but he says just get a gaming desktop. So why would you get one of these as opposed to just building out a thousand dollar desktop? It's really hard to build a desktop right now because Bitcoin mining has made it impossible to buy a graphics card on the low. It's just impossible. It's actually cheaper to purchase a system that's pre-built than it is to build your own, which is sad because it used to be cheaper. It used to be the other way around. So the only reason why- Are you really blaming that straight on- I'm blaming it straight on crypto. Yeah, it's a straight Bitcoin thing. It's a straight Bitcoin thing. It's like a full out thing. People buy them in bulk and then there's no, it's supply and demand. Yeah. Low supply, higher demand. So you're saying the manufacturers have allocations for the whole ship system. Yes, exactly. But you can still get a desktop. Why not buy a desktop, a pre-built desktop? Well, it's not a laptop. You can't take it anywhere. That's true. So this is more so like a portable desktop, but not a laptop because it's not convenient in the ways that a laptop traditionally is. So this origin, I can set it up at home. It's ready. I connect it to my monitors, but I can bring it over here and experience the same stuff. I can play the same games on a pretty decent screen as well. Yeah. Okay. So tell us what's happening next. So these are kind of a generation back. These are kind of a generation back because Intel announced some new hexa-core processors that are coming up pretty soon and we're going to be taking a look at them in the coming weeks. They're really exciting because they're bringing hexa-core technology to laptops, which we've never really seen before, only really in workstations. So first and foremost, we have the Acer Nitro, which is going to be a pretty powerful system. It'll come in both i7 and i7 Plus configurations. One will be quad-core, one will be hexa-core and overclocked, and we'll have a 1050 Ti, which is kind of a really low graphics card considering you'll have a really powerful processor in there. But that's why you have different options. Gigabyte, on the other hand, is going to start producing the Aero 15X, which has 144Hz display and a GTX 1070, just like these two systems over here. Yeah. What's super special about the Gigabyte though is it's the only laptop screen in the whole upcoming lineup of Max-Q laptops with hexa-core processors where they pay attention to the color quality on the screen. So it's 100% sRGB certified. It's great for designing. It's great for gaming. It's really the closest all-around we have right now. That screen also just looks really good. Yeah, and it's practically endless. Like, compare that to the Razer a minute ago, that... Horrible webcam placement though. Yes, horrible, but then again... If you're using a webcam on a gaming computer... Why aren't you streaming? What else are you doing? You've got to have your own... You've got to have like a dedicated streaming camera. Keep going, keep going. What else have you got? Oh, this one looks horrible. Yeah, this one is atrocious. It's the Samsung Notebook Odyssey Z. This is the ugliest laptop I've ever made. Oh, there's that keyboard placement again. I don't know how... I don't think there's another laptop this ugly that has ever been made. They learned something from Asus because ironically enough, we'll get to this later, the new Zephyrus moved the keyboard to the right place. This is they moved all of the designers at Samsung to the phone team. And then like Steve was left over and he's... The sharper image is his... I was listening. This looks like if you Googled gaming laptop, this would be the first result that came up. No, no, no, no. Even like ancient huge gaming laptops, they had a sense of purpose. I mean, it needs a dragon. There's no like glowing dragon. Yeah, there's nothing special about it. It's a GTX 1070, 144-hertz screen and also a hex core. It's just if you want a Samsung version of everything we've been talking about, but yeah, that's that. The Zephyrus. Now, this is a laptop that really excites me because to me this is the perfect one that's coming out. And this, they went away from the keyboard. Yes. So this is this main successor to the Zephyrus over here. It's called the Zephyrus M. It's still 15 inches. It moves the keyboard to the correct place. But more importantly, while all these systems are using different variations of Max Q and Max P, which down clock processors to fit them into smaller systems, the Zephyrus is using a full size 1070. So you get more bang for your buck, and it still retains the same footprint, which is really special. No one else is doing it. And the way they're pulling it off is using the same flexing auto cooling system that the Zephyrus uses where if you open it, the bottom raises itself. Apparently, they've made some improvements where the bottom plate doesn't flex and it doesn't have all the issues that we want. Especially if you move that keyboard up. Yes. So that's pretty cool. We're going to check that out and hopefully it will be as good as it sounds. Look at those palm rests. Beautiful palm rests. All right. We got two more. What else we got? So the ROG V703, this is if you want to go all out. And this is not a portable computer. This is not a Max Q computer. It's a full on GTX 1070 with a hexa core in there and a 144 hertz display. It's ridiculous, it's heavy, it's if you want to throw all your money at the problem and you really, really don't want a desktop. That looks dramatically chunkier than the ones we've been looking at. It probably weighs around 10 pounds. Don't quote me on that. And last but not least, we have the Digital Storm Equinox. It's sort of like an interesting middle ground. So it's a hexa core, very similar to the Origin. It has a very similar keyboard design and vent placement. But it also has a 1070 GTX processor and 144 hertz screen. You can upgrade the RAM and you can upgrade the storage, but pretty much those core specs remain the same. The only difference with all of these manufacturers besides ASUS, Samsung, and Acer is that Digital Storm is a boutique manufacturer. So they're much smaller. Their customer support is a little bit more tailored. But different strokes for different folks. If you want something like that, it's available. Yeah. Well, when are these all coming out? They're coming out in the next couple of weeks, and we're going to be checking them out within the next month. And you're going to be reviewing a bunch of them for us. Yes. All right. Well, thank you so much for coming on. Hi. Thank you so much. Always. Paul's not here, but I can't stop the man from making videos. Check this out, and we'll be right back. I've been told that my last logo for Hot Tips did not look like a flame. So just trying to please everybody, Hot Tips Part 2, colon, More Tips. Take that, haters. How'd you get that logo? I've heard that you have a Hot Tip. And here I am collecting Hot Tips. Okay, I can give you a Hot Tip, but I have to give credit to Dieter, who gave the Hot Tip to me in the first place. Well, I was getting really annoyed because every time I plugged my computer into my monitor, I would have to redo all of my windows. I'm very specific about what windows go where. Although I will say that this setup originally gave me a carpal tunnel, which is why I have this insane keyboard now. All right. This is good to know. Have you seen this mouse? Not every Hot Tip is risk-free. You've got your safety, you've got your monitor, but your windows, they're everywhere. So what do you do? So I use an application called Divi, D-I-V-V-Y. So whenever I open this up and things aren't how I like them, I can easily move things around, and I'm not sitting there dragging the corners of different windows, driving myself crazy. So it basically gives you a mini version of your screen when you highlight where in the screen you want that window to be. So I want this to be Chrome, I want this to be Slack, and it just does it for you. Do you feel more fulfilled as a person? Yeah, I feel less annoyed with resizing windows in a Mac. This is a very clean setup. Works pretty well. Awesome. Thank you, Helen. You're welcome, Paul. What a Hot Tip. Hey, Dan. Hey, buddy. You just got to talk to the mic. That's a Hot Tip from me. Hey, Paul. How's it going? Dan. Got any Hot Tips? My Hot Tip is Sartorial in nature. Does that mean fashion? It means related to clothing. Okay. Don't wear plaid and stripes at the same time. Interesting. Like plaid is fine, stripes are fine. Okay. But plaid and stripes at the same time. Okay, at the same time. Not a good move. Thanks, Dan. Okay, we're back with Thomas. For another Hot Tip. Hot Tip. Thomas, what do you have for us this week? All right. So one of the things that I do, I normally don't carry. First of all, I live in Europe, and I use European power adapters. Draw the Euro plug. I know what that looks like. I was hoping you would draw Europe because I was going to test you on that. What shape is Europe? Is it kind of like a square? Oh, yeah. It's a square. So these little accessories, what Dan was calling, I was talking to him earlier, he calls it a duck foot or a duck something. I don't know. Nobody knows. But this thing is obviously proprietary. This is Apple. It only fits on these Apple adapters. But what's nice is that lots of other devices that are powered, like this, which really is not set up. This is Neeli's desk. This is USB multi-adapter. These things can actually be plugged directly in and power your devices. That is astonishing to me. It's incredible. So sometimes, I don't know, if you forget it or because I travel with multiple pieces, multiple cables to adapt this to European or US, if I happen to forget it, I can always pop it out and I can grab some local power cable and I can still, even though it's not proprietary, it doesn't match the Apple thing, it'll still power the device. You got an extension cable. So many possibilities. It's incredible. I'm really excited. What do you think? Here's Europe. Hot tip. Here's the plug. If it looks like an Ethernet cable going into the power, that will kill you. Well, new hot tip. Don't plug Ethernet into power. Two for the price of one. It is really something to have a hobo just wander around our office attacking people with a camera all day long. I hope Paul feels better. If you're watching this, Paul, I hope you feel better, man. All right, Ashley and Jake are here. The circuit breaker crew. We're here. So loud. With the epitome. With the epitome. True distillation. I just want to set this up because it's truly ridiculous. You guys are tasked with covering new gadgets for circuit breaker. A lot of new gadgets happen on Kickstarter and one of the hottest Kickstarter segments is shit that floats. It's really weird. Yeah. Like every couple of weeks it feels like there's a new floating thing on Kickstarter. And they all get funded. They all raise a ton of money. There's a weird amount of floating plants. Yeah. But yeah, I just went back to Math Envelope and they raised like $140,000 on average, which is like- Wow. Like floating gadgets in general? That was based, I'm going to say, back of the Envelope. But yeah, most Kickstarter's raise less than $10,000. But if it floats. If it floats, you're going to- It's a good idea. Make it. Yeah. People love floating stuff. I think it's just like, I mean, it's the perfect Kickstarter thing. It looks appealing. You don't have to think about it. And then it doesn't really work. All right. Walk me- So you've called in a bunch of floating objects. Yeah. So all of these pass through some crowdfunding platform. I think maybe the place to start is this light bulb by Flight. Okay. They've kickstarted a handful of these. They have raised $1.6 million across three different floating- Wait, wait. This company has raised $1.6 million? Yeah. Selling floating things on Kickstarter. Is it various floatings or all light bulbs? I believe they are all light bulbs. I got to- So this is obviously just wireless power. Yeah. So this is pretty much how they all work. There's a base. There's some magnets in it, including an electromagnet which stabilizes it. And in this case, they don't all have wireless power, but this one uses wireless power to get the light to light up. And that's it. It's really simple. There are two LEDs in here. That's not a real light bulb. Those are just two little LEDs. Yeah. Can we get the ball cam on here? This is just like a clear plastic tube with LEDs under it. So one of the things that I sort of picked up on as I got more and more of these things is that they look really slick in photos and videos that they post online, and they're definitely not. Like, from afar, this might look really cool, but then you get up close and you realize, it's plastic, not glass, because you don't want to accidentally knock it, and then it'll go flying, which is going to happen because it's being suspended by magnets. The light isn't really filling out the fake bulb because it's just two little LEDs. It's kind of weird. Like, there's this hidden button specifically like an inch over from the corner with no markings on it. The entire aesthetic of this is like early 80s cocaine. Yeah, I just don't get, like, is this supposed to be to impress a date? Like, that is really what I think it is. Yeah, you roll into someone's house and they have this, you're like, I understand. You're like, okay. Yeah. I mean, that's what this is pitched at, right? This is like the piece in your apartment. How much does this cost? I mean, how much are you paying for this, right? Like, this is, what do you, I just want to know. The max is $100. Plastic LED. Because it's like a novelty, but also like a little sculpture of some sort. $100. This is $360. $360? Yeah. I see. I might be floating. Look, you got a braided back there. $369. Sorry. All right. So what happens if you... Which is crazy. That's not good. And so this is the other thing. It takes a while to learn how to float these things. I want you, you have not successfully floated this yet. I guess that's the verb I'm using, float. I think this is the part they don't show you in the Kickstarter video. Yeah, definitely not. Once you get it up there, it stays up there mostly, but if you kind of bump it, it will go. And it just clunks down every time you get screwed up. I hate this so much. It actually comes with, do you try the little helper or something? Shut up, Jake. I'm concentrating. He wants to do it without the assist. You're doing it wrong. Obviously. It's all about feeling the magnets. You have to talk to the magnets. It's true that there's like a sweet spot and you kind of feel it in the lines. Yeah. You can hear it. That's one of the things I've become very uncomfortable with. I feel you should not be able to hear the things rumbling. Well, I'm going to keep trying this. I was able to hear the power brick on this one buzzing, which felt weird. So yeah, one of the earliest floating things we saw was the crazy, was Crazy Baby's Mars speaker. It was on P&O Go. People in the chat were actually surprised that it's real. Yeah, no, it's totally real. The Crazy Baby? Wow. So they made it float before. You'll notice it's not floating currently. And this is kind of just a good example of how these things work. This isn't supposed to do the floating on its own, so you don't have to position it. We'll see what happens here. I don't think this is actually starting up right now. I have no idea how to actually get it to start. And when it does start, it doesn't work. It's on right. You got to hold it down? I'm not sure. I've been doing this for several days. Classic sugar breaker. When it starts up, it will make a whirring noise, and then it will clunk to the side. Hey. Oh, nice work. I don't know how I did that, and I can never do it again. Great job. Fantastic. That's it. That's the show, everybody. Thank you so much for watching. Now we can move on to your next challenges. So there's also a company called Levitating X, an athesia that is capitalized on the sort of floating craze. The floating pillow? Yeah. So they kind of realized, well, we can just make a common base. Yeah. And then put a bunch of junk on top of it. So this is a cup? Yeah, it's a cup. This is a pillow. You're supposed to put jewelry or something on it. That really is the only good use case I see here is a tacky jewelry shop. You're like, look at our engagement rings. They float, and they spin. Look at them sparkle. That makes sense to me, actually. Yeah. I think that is probably the big use case for these, right? It's like you're a retail store. The floating cup, though. The floating cup is the thing I was most excited about. Because I thought, I don't know, do you serve people with this? Do you use it as a coaster? And I want to know how successful- Okay, Jake, wait. I want to see Jake drink out of this. Wait. I think we have- Oh, you do? We do. We have a seltzer here. Here you go. So Jake, you are going to drink from the levitating cup. Get it. Oh, so you can hold some, right? Yeah, no, it's- It's doing it. It's getting heavy. Oh, it is kind of going to- It's sinking. It's sinking. It's sinking. There's still a little bit of- It's sank. All right. Okay, so now- Wow. I should have filled this all the way up. No, you really should not have filled that all the way up. It's the putting it back without spilling. Oh, man. Oh, my God. She's sucking it out of the way. I got this. She's going to go ahead and push. Can you get it? Are there any electronics nearby that I need to worry about? Just your $5,000 light bulb, Jake. See, what's the game plan here? Got it. Got it. Let's- Got it. All right. I feel like they definitely don't talk about this part enough. Yeah. So I mean, I asked them about this because I really wanted to know. I'm like, am I supposed to use this as a coaster? And they're like, no, you just serve it to someone and then remove it, which they make these battery powers so you can lift them up, which- Like a cocktail person would come up to you. Right. If you were served- like this, you can't be serving a nice cocktail on this glass. It's a plastic glass. It's like scratched up. Yeah, that's really not- It would not work. And also- I mean, no, no. There are any number of like medium bad cocktail bars in New York City that are like kind of like licking their- Exciting about this. Yeah. But these things aren't even made well. Like the magnet is just glued to the bottom. They actually also sell a $330 art piece, which is really just like a 3D printed like vase or something. It was cracked when it arrived. And on top of that, the magnet on the bottom fell off, which this is all that these things really are. It's just this magnet, which is kind of cool because now we can just see how this works. Can we put the cam on it? You can definitely try, but let's- oh, God. Oh, shit. This is a million dollar Kickstarter right here. The floating LaCroix. If you are watching this and you put this on Kickstarter, you owe us royalties. Straight up, someone's going to steal that. This is art. Yeah. I'm really- We're geniuses. I really tend to suppress this power line and show you all what happens when this runs out of power. All right. So this is- okay. This is all this stuff, but that's the one. Okay. This is the one that is my absolute favorite. I got to be careful because this is also the absolute hardest to get to float. This is the Levitating Nixie Clock by Lazer Mad. And this is- to be clear, this is made by some dude named Tony in Scotland. It's just one guy. Are there a lot of Tonys in Scotland? I don't- well, I know of at least one. Maybe the Chinese. It's a story. Yeah. So this is really cool. So the Nixie Clocks are these, I guess, like retro clocks that people are kind of into. They're sort of like neon lights where you have a gas inside the tube and it lights up the numbers, which, as you'll notice, means these are real glass. Yeah. That's glass. So you've got to make sure you don't crack these or you're going to just break it. All right. Tell the people how you set this clock because that's the best part by far. Yeah. So first, you would think it's a clock. I bet I can just program the timing. No, too simple. Instead, start with this. This, which I also want to note, says experimental use only on it. By the way, Anthony said there's loads of Tonys in Scotland. Oh, that's great. Thanks. Thank you. You saved his hand. That's great. That's so informative. Of course, he would know that. So this is, they call it the GPS, Tony calls it the GPS mouse. So you have to plug this into power separate from this thing and it has a really weak signal. So it needs to be pointed directly out a window. It then gets the signal from the GPS satellite. These lights just like blink and stuff. To be real, it looks very sketchy when you just plug it into a corner of your office and don't tell people what it is. You're looking for the sky. Yeah. It then beams GPS data over to this box, which just has like a big old wire coming out of it. This box takes the GPS signal and power, routes it into this thing, which then sends it up to this clock, which also has one. That's kind of brilliant. You've got a lot going on. There's a lot going on. It's really cool. How much is this one? This one, if you buy an unassembled kit, this is like really meant as a DIY project. It is $360. I actually don't even know if they have any more, but on Kickstarter you're going to go... Yeah, this was crowdfunded? Yeah, this is also crowdfunded. Wow. It's like $6,000. And the assembled kits sold for $500. Wow. Whoa. Which of all of these things, I think this is like the nicest quality. It is definitely very weird. Yeah. I'm not going to say that. That's some real Steve Wozniak stuff. You will necessarily impress everyone who walks into your house. All right, Ashley. Out of these, which one is your favorite? Oh my gosh. I really didn't think this would be me, but I feel like it's the cup. It's the cup? What? Wow. At least it's functional. You could drink out of it. Well, how much light are you getting out of this bulb? The speaker doesn't even levitate. I don't know the time. I need it to clock. I got to go with the light. And this is the wrong time. I feel like you walk... I don't have an office. But if I had an office, you walk in my office, you see this, you're like, I know what I'm here for. It's business. I'm here to talk with the floating light bulb. Exactly. All right. Thank you very much for both of you bringing me these things. Although I did get it, so I'm happy about that. Here's what's going to happen now. We're going to go to a package room, play a video. It is cool. It's a trailer for Dieter Bohn's new YouTube show, Processor. But we're going to come back. We have gadget emotional support. So call us. Call us on your telephone. 1-844-4EMOTION. The number is at the bottom of the screen. Call us. We're going to walk you through the emotions of your tech support issue. So watch this video with Dieter for Processor. We'll be right back with your phone calls. I'm Dieter Bohn, and I'm starting a new video series on YouTube where we're going to post a video every week. And it's going to be a little bit different than the stuff we've sort of done before. I promise you, I promise you that it's not going to be me holding an Osmo making bad jokes. I may hold an Osmo. I'm definitely going to make bad jokes. But usually those two things won't cross. We'll have professionals pointing at the camera at me when I make bad jokes. Anyway, the point is I want to do a video series that looks a little bit more closely at our relationship with technology and the way that we think about technology. For example, one of the episodes we're working on is this Apple commercial that pissed everybody off, What's a Computer? What's a Computer? That thing made people really mad. I think it's fascinating that people got so angry about that line in that commercial. Everyone's like, ah, I got it. We're calling the show Processor. We are going to look at the choices that technology companies are making and we're going to look at the choices that we ourselves are making interacting with that technology. And we're going to process all of that and hopefully come to a deeper understanding of what our relationship with technology is. What our relationship with each other is through this technology mediated by it. I want us to get a little bit smarter and if nothing else, a little bit less afraid and a little bit less alienated by all this gadgetry. Stay tuned. We're working on the video series right now. It's called Processor with me, Peter Bohn. It seems like a thing that's worth doing. We're back. It's time for Gadget Emotional Support. So call us 1-844-4EMOTION. Phones are lighting up back there. Creighton, our producer, is screening the people who called to just breathe at us. But I'm going to start with one. Okay. It's kind of, it's a lot. It's a lot. Okay. I mean like it's a lot. Our hearts are open. We're ready. This is going to involve a car, isn't it? No, I bought, it should. No, no, it's a real thing. So I'm an Xbox person and I bought a PS4 because I was peer pressured into it and I kind of want to not use it. And I feel bad because every time I say that out loud, I'm like I'm going to get rid of this PS4, I'm buying an Xbox One X. Like people, like literally our coworkers make fun of me. Like they make disapproving noises. Because they feel like you're making the wrong choice? Yeah, because they're like why are you doing that? How do I stand up? Okay, well the first question I have is whether the person who is encouraging you to buy. Well they were the same people. Okay, so they were just like, it wasn't like we want to play with you. Like we have to be on the same game. It was more just like make the right choice. Yeah, it was like I'm going to do this. Oh, okay. I'm like I'm going to buy. You're like usually I'm the boss. It's like, I'm not. She's like tell myself. Yeah, do some mantras in the mirror. No, it's like Chris Plant, the executive editor at Polygon. I'm like I'm going to buy an Xbox. And like literally and like he'll just like type a row of S's in Slack. Well, okay, as long as you don't feel left out. Like you're not missing out on games with your friends, then I feel like, you know what? Live your platform truth. Are you going to feel better about yourself playing an Xbox, playing a bad game on the Xbox, than you would playing a good game on a PS4? Because that's the question. Well, I would only play the same games. I feel like the Xbox is like a better computer. PS4 is like a mess to me. This doesn't make any sense then. See, you're judging me. I ruined the segment. No, look, okay, I don't really think that actually. You just go with it? Just tell him, say I'm the boss? Yeah. What do you hate about it so much? It's just like, I don't know, it's not home. Like I think the way the whole interface is organized in PS4 just like deeply confuses me. Like Sony doesn't make computers that make beautiful gaming consoles. They have better games. That's the thing then. I think you can come up with a counter take. Prove them wrong. Live your best life with your Xbox. That's like every day I have to like advertise? Like I'm on Instagram? Yeah, like InstaStory, be like, this is amazing. But it kind of like manifestly is not amazing. Okay, when you buy a phone, do you always buy the phone that is like technically the best experience? No, I buy an iPhone. But you buy an iPhone because it pleases you in certain bizarre ways. No, it's the same thing because all the people are on iMessage. Right. And all the people are on PSN. But you don't want to be on PSN. If you don't care about the people, then it doesn't matter what system you're on. All right, Creighton, by the way, call us 1-844. I didn't get anywhere with this, by the way. I just want you to know. 1-844. Just stand up for yourself. I'm trying. I really got pressure in this PS4. Your last person did not have friends. He seems to not care about the friends at all. Well, as people for life choices, the chat is like out of control now. If you have thoughts about this, call me, 1-844-EMOTION. All right, we got Eric on the line. He wants to talk to us. Unfinished software. Eric, go ahead. Eric? I'm really glad that my earpiece wasn't broken. Yeah. Creighton? Eric, do we have you now? Yeah, hey. Hey, what's up, man? How are you doing? Tell us your emotional problem. I'm doing great. How are you doing? So, I mean, I do a lot of beta testing, and this problem happens a lot, and it especially happened with the Kavo. You know, the software just doesn't do what it's supposed to do. Yeah, no, I feel you, man. Wait, do you do a lot of beta testing, or do you feel that you live a life of beta testing? Important distinction. I don't know. So, my feeling is that all of us consumers now live a life of permanent beta testing, because nothing quite works. You wrote that take, didn't you? That take is everywhere. All software is doing that. After the holidays. Yeah, nothing works. Yeah. Everything is too complicated. Yeah. So, my deep feeling in life is that tech companies build things based on assumptions, and the assumptions are stacking up faster than anybody has realized. You know, this Facebook thing that's going on now? So, give me an example. So, the Kavo was one. They actually shipped that product. It sort of worked. Like, 80% of it worked, and then 20% of it was broken. What's some other places that you feel? Definitely this other software that's supposed to be controlling my keyboard and mouse. Can't really say what the company is, but they told me to uninstall the first version and install the beta version, and now I can't even use my keyboard and mouse. Here's the thing. You're not upset about these things being broken. Maybe you are. I shouldn't tell you what I feel. No, that's the whole point of the segment. Definitely one. But the thing is, you got invested in this because there is a joy in having half-broken products that do something slightly different than everyone else's. Yeah. I use an email app that doesn't work, like, 80% of the time. I love it, though. What's your email app? Airmail. It's fantastic. It has a million features. Yep. It has never let me down. I'm testing for Airmail. Yes. Yeah, I mean, I could use it. Thank you. Airmail is... But, you know... But there's such a wonderful feeling to using this bizarre piece of software that you have no idea how it's running. Yeah, it definitely is. Like, you feel like you are in the new frontier. Yeah. You're an adventurer. I feel a little special for having it. I feel like I've gotten involved in something that I shouldn't be doing. It's a little risky, you know? Yeah. Yeah. This is... See? You be you, Eric. Live that life. Also, there's no better feeling than, like, the one thing that's broken and you're not expecting it and the software update hits and that shit's fixed. There you go. You're like, yes. You get that small victory. Yeah, you're like, I waited this out. Yeah. When the Kavo got its, like, final update and then it finally worked, that was, like, the best feeling ever because the entire beta test time, it just... It would... Like, one day it would turn on and then the next day I would have to factory reset it to actually even have it work. Yeah. Look, Eric, I don't think you have a problem here. I think what you have is knowledge. You have a deep knowledge about yourself. So, you're good. Take Ashley's bad advice to me but think of it as good advice for you, which is just you be you. Post on your Insta story every day about how your broken shit makes you happy. All right. We're going to go to the next call. Bye, Eric. All right. Of course. Bye. By the way, Mark Zuckerberg... Thanks, Eric. Mark Zuckerberg was testifying in front of Congress today. We have Brandon on the phone. He says he has a one-year-old, feelings about Facebook and exposing his kids to it. Brandon, tell me what's up. Hey. I have a one-year-old. I know you have a kid on the way. I just was wondering what you think about, you know, exposing your kids to social media, things like Facebook, Instagram, you know, where is that all going? Should I just keep my kid away from that? So, I had this... I don't have a kid yet. You have a one-year-old. This is true of your one-year-old and my forthcoming daughter whose name will be forthcoming Patel. Like, Cardi B for my daughter will be classic rock. That's a crazy thought, right? For your kid, like this, whatever you do with her now, him now, it will be the same as like the phone system or like cable news, right? Like, you're going to build them up into it and they're never going to know the world before. It's just going to like build around them. So, someone asked me yesterday, like, what's the social media policy for my kid going to be? And I was like, we're just not going to give her one until she wants it. And then we're going to like make sure she's responsible of it, which is basically how my parents gave me like a landline when I was a teenager. Yeah. What are your thoughts? You're more hip with teens than I am. Well, I think that's... You've got teens on your podcast like every week. It's true. I mean, I think it's one of those things where, yeah, you kind of have to weigh it out for yourself because I do see how social media is super toxic. And I honestly feel bad for kids now. Like, if you see your friends in a story all the time and you're not invited, that must suck. Like, back when we were in high school, it was like, maybe you heard rumors, but you never knew. Now there's hardcore evidence all the time. So, I feel like you have to prepare your kid for those realizations and they have to be mature enough to understand that it's like, it's okay. You're not going to get invited to some things and you're going to be fine. So, also maybe just wait until they're a teenager. Yeah, that's like years from now. Yeah. Do I put my infant on my Instagram all the time? I would say, I mean, it's all every parent's choice. Yeah. Like Andy at the Verge, transportation reporter, I'm so thankful he puts his kids on Insta Stories because it is my favorite content that exists. Yeah, but his Instagram is locked down. Private. Brandon, is your Instagram open or closed? Is your Facebook open or closed? It's closed. It's closed. Yeah, so if you're keeping your own pictures of them locked down, that seems pretty safe. Do you know Mark Zuckerberg has an app on his phone that like shows him one new baby a day from all across Facebook? Refresh. Brandon, what are your thoughts? What are you going to do with it? I don't know. It's kind of hard to say. I mean, part of what makes me nervous is that, you know, I'm not an old guy, but I don't use things like Snapchat, you know? I'm above that. I'm older than most people who use Snapchat. So I don't even know what's in that world, you know? The answer is other teenagers. So maybe kids. Yeah. The answer is other teenagers. So I think you raise it. I feel like everything you described is just new takes on the same high school dramas that, you know, people are worrying about. Right? You can't necessarily avoid that at all. As for whether you put your, you like encourage your kids to be on social media, I don't know how many people are excited about that. Like, you know, at this moment in time. But the baby YouTubers. Yeah. Don't. Here's our advice to you, Brandon. Start your child a YouTube channel. Turn them into millions of dollars. Monotize. Definitely exploiting them. And that'll be good. No, I think the answer is you do what's comfortable for your channel and you wait until they start asking for their own. And then you start you start teaching them how to use it effectively. That's all you can do. But the real thing to me is they're never going to know you made this decision. If you start buying them followers now, it's suspicious when they're older. You just want them to succeed. You just want them to be influencers. Give it just give your baby to Sam Sheffer. That's my plan. All right. That on that extremely strange note. Thank you so much, Brandon. We're actually out of time for this episode of Circle Breaker Live. We'll be back next week. Four p.m. Eastern. I might not be here because I literally might have a baby between now and then. I'm always paranoid right before the show. I'm like, sorry, guys, baby's on the way. Gotta go. I will tell you this. You know, the iPhone 10, when you get a text message, it doesn't show it to you. You have to look at the phone. So every time Becky texts me, I'm like, it's horrible. But next week, Circle Breaker Live, 4 p.m. Eastern. Thank you to everybody in the chat. Thank you to Ashley, Jake, Haim, Stefan. We'll be back next week. We'll see you then. Bye.