 Yes, I Ladies and gentlemen Welcome to the WAN show we're technically here get this out of my face. Yeah No, I want it in my face put it in my You're not letting me remove it Once you put it in my face, you got to leave it there For a little while Let me savor it. All right, so we've got a great show for you guys today I think I actually have no idea. It's been it's been off to a pretty rough start to be perfectly honest with you I can't even check if I wanted to yeah, Luke's got an update that's sitting at 23% Thank You dual core laptops Yeah, I am so glad that as of 8th gen you're gone forever Yes, did someone someone raised your chair again? Do you want to when people like when people come on WAN show they need to just not? Dink around with anything or did they not? That's it Well, why is it framed like this did someone mess with mine? You know what forget it who cares Your chair is too low counter strike. Yeah creator suspended after being arrested for child exploitation Yeah, I know well like mine too now, let's just I'm calling max. I'm so nice. Oh, I'm so many max beautiful show the best show. Um Okay, no further details yet other than the other details that we have that we'll tell you about later AMD suggests that mining may be profitable on threadripper. I Don't even I don't even laughing cuz I like know that it isn't or that it is it's just like please miners Buy our stuff to buy more of our stuff miners. Yeah, making us so much money, please All right, Elon Musk Released a flamethrower. Yeah, what is it called? The boring company? Yeah. All right, so we'll talk about that later I guess and Apple sells fewer iPhones, but profits rise Wow, this is some boring boring stuff. I'm so interested in Apple making lots of money We'll find out other things to talk about I guess shink So I had you lower it max but I think what ultimately happened was someone adjusted my My head Looks and my head Because we're maintaining the illusion that I'm not So Didn't even face We can't see it No, I do not want an Apple box to sit on what are you Brandon? No, no, no bad new Brandon Why just slouch a bit Terrible welcome to the land show. Oh man, is this a paint still at 28%? It's gonna go like the whole show. You're not even gonna have a laptop for the show today Oh Man You know what? I Would I would even say it's been that kind of week, but it actually hasn't it's been an okay week I actually had an okay week. Yeah. Well, you know, no wait, hold on a second I forgot about all the drama at the beginning of the week. What with the whole yeah, you know about you, right? I Was a late comer Okay, cuz I had no idea. I had no idea it was happening while it was happening Yeah, I was like just cruising through float plane to make sure everything was going good and I saw like you were like What a mess. What did this come? Well, no, I saw like that thread and I was like I'm confused and then I watched like two Minutes of it and was like I don't have time for this and I don't care and then I scrolled down and was like most The comments don't seem to care. Oh Oh on our side on our side. Yes. Yeah, and then I heard about the tweet and then I was like, whoa And then I moved on. Yeah, totally blew up I have a lot of people have sort of asked me for comments, but I oh I've said pretty much everything No, no, it's that's the schedule shut down. I've said pretty much everything I have to say in an unlisted live stream that you should have gotten four notifications about I was So mad like it's so mad. Okay, I have a 15 megabit up connection at home I am I watched that part down the hall from a thousand dollar access point Which those of you have been watching a long time know that I used to have a lot of issues with Wi-Fi So eventually finally just like about three years ago I was like I am so done with this like what gives me more satisfaction in my daily life another graphics card for SLI no or Wi-Fi that works all the time. I think I'm gonna do by the way. I think I might do another WTF is going on with this live video. Really? I think it almost needs an update It's more broken than ever before that much It's like neither of them want to support it AMD is like no Completely and videos like sort of to other than that No, and video likes people putting two graphics cards in their system. Honestly, I think for them It's less even about the money and more about just like that a GPU is a status symbol. Yeah but The game developer support is basically non-existent and before the I Don't know why we're talking about this. I guess there's no good topics. We might as well But before the mentality from the the hardware guys seemed to be that they just show up To your development studio before your game came out and would be like no You now support SLI and crossfire and then now they just don't and because they're not There isn't support for it. I don't know It's it's been a terrible experience like Assassin's Creed origins If you ran with SLI enabled the game would run it would just run way worse than it would have ran otherwise Just like completely not the experience that you should have. I Don't know. It's been it's been rough for the multiple graphics card guys and the future doesn't look any better at all Yeah, so I don't remember where we how we got onto this topic You were talking about this the you preferring having like a sweet AP versus this week Yeah, so I decided that Wi-Fi was actually more important to me than a few frames per second So I got a baller access point so I was streaming through the YouTube app on a pixel to excel So I was as Google as I could possibly be and I sent out. I'm not the interesting part. I managed to send out three Notifications to people each time I went live which three each time. No, no one each time Three each time. No, no one each time three one for each time I went live and then the streams would just stop I got a I got a screen grab of Actually, you know what I'm happy face. I can probably grab it. But yeah, like It would just give me this error and be like, yep, your stream is down Wow, um, it doesn't seem to have uploaded so that's my thumb. I know yeah It's just the the I I couldn't I roll enough. I actually tried to I roll more That was the most that was the most that I could physically roll my eyes But I just got this your stream has failed message and and it would just stop and then what I've discovered now is that You can't you have no way of undoing those notifications that are sitting in people's feeds So I was getting messages from people for the next couple days But they'd screenshot these four notifications in a row. They'd be like WTF is this and I'm just kind of sitting here going I'm sorry. I can't reply to every single one of you. I don't like it either. Trust me It's dumb, but I can't do anything about it So I finally streamed on the iPhone 10 instead and it worked perfectly and it worked perfectly that's like something like if you're if you're twitch streaming and Say OBS crashes or your computer blue screens or something and you need to go twitch stream again Yeah, it sends the email version of the notification to everyone I disabled the auto tweet one because of that on like most like ours doesn't do it mine doesn't do it I most people that I help it doesn't do it anymore Yeah, but it will still email everyone and people still get the phone notification, right? So it's pretty yeah, it's pretty frustrating like it would be nice to have it, you know Be resumable or something like if they especially because the app itself didn't crash. It was just like your stream is stopped We'll start it again And I understand I do understand that whether it's down to you know Codecs requiring files to be closed out or whether it's down to any number of reasons that it's actually not Like trivially simple I do get that but there has to be a better system than what we have now especially if you stream for like one minute and Then you stream again like I would I would I would like for it to be a little bit smarter than that So anyway, I said pretty much everything I had to say there you guys can check that out if you want you probably have a notification if you're subscribed but in a nutshell people were mad because I Confused a tampon and a pad because the title said tampon. Okay, so The title said tampon and okay in the thumbnail is holding a pad Yeah, we probably shouldn't we probably shouldn't get into it because all we stand to do Always stand to gain is more articles on mashable Daily mail really and some yeah. Oh, yeah, like there are there are like articles about about this controversy That I'm kind of sitting here going. Okay, like I guess I guess that's a thing that we need to write about today Okay, I'm just gonna not comment. Let's move on. Yeah So I don't even want to cover this first topic either. What's the first topic today the counter-strike thing? Oh, yeah There's not really a lot to say. Well, no, it specifically says was not charged Yeah crime so I don't really want to cover it because we're just like throwing this dude under the bus when he wasn't charged with a crime Maybe if anything concrete comes out of it. Yeah, I don't like the idea of just throwing his name under the bus when he's not Arrested suspended by valve Yeah, it's a suspension they're probably waiting till they Okay statement from valve suspended from the developer while the company investigates does not have a criminal history So in a nutshell, we're not gonna name any names It doesn't look like anything's really happened here. But one of the co-creators of counter-strike has been arrested and suspended from valve and There's what's weird is that He's been arrested but not charged with a crime and the police Didn't say if an actual child was harmed he has no criminal history and Of course the local news station is speculating as to you know what this might mean But no one has actually indicated that they know exactly what's going on here. Let's move into oh Man why would AMD even bring this up? So this article from PC games and calm what does this mean for AMD's reputation? That's an interesting thing for me because so many gamers right now are really upset about lack of stock of parts about prices of things going up and The person or the group that everyone loves to hate is Theoretically fighting against it at least in statement. I don't know outside of that Yeah, but Nvidia has stated at least I don't again. I don't know outside of that. They might be doing something I don't know if they are or not that they that they are trying or they want Gamers to still be able to buy graphics cards and stuff AMD I don't think has stated anything about graphics cards as far as I know I could be ignorant on that topic It's not like my laptops working right now This might take several minutes But but is actively encouraging people to buy CPUs for mining So they're trying to potentially crush the other side of the market and right now with everyone being mad at like What is it micro center or something? I don't know because they're like bundling GPUs with whole platforms But if you buy the whole platform you get the GPU at MSRP Okay, sure, but like if you don't you get it at a cranked up price right? Yeah, that makes sense so it makes it tough for upgraders But that's but then upgraders are a huge part of the market because yeah, you don't have to upgrade your CPU that often. Yeah so anyway The what what leads up what leads you know we should probably straw pull this but what led us to this conversation is that AMD's Technical marketing manager Damian Trillett believes that there's massive potential for home mining rigs with their thread ripper CPUs and there's a few details here Let's go through the like stuff that was said first and then we'll get into all the problems with this because there are some So crypto night can be mined with CPUs that have about two megs of level three cash per mining thread We cash is important for CPU mining. Yeah, so this rules out almost all ASIC mining machines that are so far in production But favors CPUs with high level three cash per core which thread ripper is designed for Okay, so we also said CPUs could be acceptable for mining if they could handle very few threads very fast And that's exactly what thread ripper is able to do thread ripper comes with up to 32 megs of level three cash and it can keep the data set in cache what speeds up crypto mining a lot blah blah blah so with two megs per thread a thread ripper 1950x could run around 15 active mining threads not bad That would allow it to get in about the same ballpark as rx vega, and it will be much faster for example This is all quoting them much faster than a 1080 ti for example in crypto night each Intel's a TDT chips have far less level three cash per core so He believes that a thread ripper could be capable of accumulating around $90 a month through the nice hash mining program though of course Let me just check my handy dandy how much has the market fallen yeah? You know calculator here, and it's dropped honestly. This is not reflective of what happened yesterday So it's probably somewhere in the neighborhood of like 30 plus percent in the last couple of days um do do do do So your mileage may vary now of course um it also go back up. I could go down 80% more I heard something happened last January as well, so there could be a seasonal sure it's every January Yeah, there could be a seasonal element to this but or there might not be who knows maybe every other January was just a coincidence And maybe this one is too, or maybe this is the end of times who knows the end of mining um anyway So using his estimated earnings a thread ripper 1920x would see a return beyond its own MSRP of around $760 in just under nine months so Yeah, I'm not reading James you have to do it you do it is AMD trying to cash in on that cryptocurrency Cache Terrible okay So so penny problem number one is the perception problem. Yeah, do you think that's huge? Because you look at how many people were mad about the piece that we did on cryptocurrency mining What was it a week ago two weeks ago something like that? Did you check out mining adventure part two part three? Yeah, part two the one with the GPUs. I've seen all okay. You've seen all of them so mining adventure part two roughly I was good through we covered building a more optimized GPU mining machine and that got 40,000 likes which is pretty good Wow but also 10,000 dislikes yeah because the gamers so just over a fifth of you guys were mad enough that On a piece of content that I thought was pretty good whether you like mining or not I thought it was interesting Jake did a lot of research on this one We ended up with a pretty cool rig pretty optimized configuration anyway People were so mad that we got a fifth of you like pressing the dislike button to show your dissatisfaction with us even covering this stuff, and there's 8,000 comments on it I don't know who they should be mad at well, okay I know at least one group that they should be mad at outside of that I don't know if they should or should not be mad at other groups yeah, but gamers I understand the GPU market is terrible right now. That's crazy I would not want to be building computer. I wouldn't build a computer I tweeted out like way before the whole internet made articles about it, and then some people were like oh they copied you It's like no they didn't but whatever I still sure they figured it out independently. Yeah, yeah It's a pretty common thought but buying consoles right now. Yeah is like actually if you just want a game a Pretty decent like not a bad bet yeah, and the crazy thing is you look at how quickly this happened Oh, because if you go back to mining adventure part one which it was fine back by many accounts Or by are by a lot of accounts is a worse video. Yeah, because we But we did not try to build something optimized. We actually Went at it from a completely unoptimized way. It's amazing by the way It's amazing how many comments there are on that video about how poorly optimized the build is Even though we said it right in the video But that was what exactly what we were doing It's amazing how many people try really really hard to not understand a video anyway So that had 50,000 likes and just 1600 dislikes That's about 97 percent and then this one's closer to 80 So the whole public perception was like this is okay, and then this is suddenly not okay, so that's again It makes sense from mid-november to mid-january January two months and the perception changed that much around GPU mining well it went from like Where I think is a good spot for it to be which is like oh gamers you can like Make some more money doing this yeah And like if you if you have a couple GPUs around or you want an excuse to play with hardware and buy some more Graphics cards you can do this it went from that to like Don't get in the warehouse Remember and then people got really upset about that right okay the solution Linus coin Did you see Jake's tweet No, he's saying instead of float coin. We should call it sink coin Saint coins sink sink because the markets sinking And because of it's a coin because you should sink your investment into it all of it Literally all of it. Yeah, so so I think we've pretty much decided We have kind of talked about it a little bit to be clear when Luke initially brought it up total joke in Paul's video No, yeah, not a thing we talked about no at all pure trollage Pure trollage so we don't have to okay, okay? But we've talked about it. We're gonna do a coin and We're gonna do it as part of mining adventure and the point that we're going to be trying to make is that and I really want You guys to listen really carefully just turn off the radio Do kids don't listen to the radio anymore turn off the whatever else whatever audio noise pollution you have around turn off the twitch Okay, listen really carefully we are creating this video to demonstrate how a Coin can be created for purely exploitative purposes because a lot of them are because a lot of them are we will be going Through the procedure and showing you guys how it is done And we'll be listing like a lot of the different ways that it could be done And then we'll be picking a few yep, and we'll be going that route. Yep Well you guys won't so if you guys decide to mine it By all means mine it if you guys decide to buy some by all means do it But let me tell you guys right now our coin aside from if we can find some purpose for it where you can like use it for a Voting on WAN show or voting on WAN show or like some kind of access to a special sub form on the form or whatever Like we might come up with like a couple a couple LMG or float plane related things you can do and those would largely be a part of the experiment of Getting people to use it eventually but Expect it to crash because in the long term we do not have either the technical know-how or the Inclination to follow this through and make it a technologically superior coin it was yeah It won't be we're gonna work someone else's thing do do no special advancements to it. Yes and run forward yes, so Expect it to be that which is common now. 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All right, let's go back to why CPU mining doesn't make any sense so first of all Just ask someone okay part of mining adventure should you do a like The other ways video and do like hard drive and CPU well hard drives coming. Okay? Yeah, that's mining adventure sidequest Did you get GPU work? It's not good. I haven't yet. I figured it out though. You just need to use a different plotter Yes, yeah, so yeah like I just so yeah, it's slightly more complicated than that. Yeah, but yes I don't care anymore because I'm using a dual 22 core system And I am getting up to about 70 to 80 thousand ounces per minute on CPU So I have So I have four instances running at a time because there seems to be some kind of limitation That's capping me at 60% CPU usage, so I've got four running at a time So while one of them is committing to the drive or well two of them are committing to drives the other two are running And then these ones will kick back in and then those ones will kind of run through creating nonsense And then they'll be committing them to drives and these two will be running so overnight I was actually able to do over 10 terabytes on a single rig with CPU plotting so Anyway to be clear. I'm not running out and buying all the hard drives put away the pitchforks I'm just experimenting with burst coin because it's this coin that you mine by just allocating empty hard drive space to it And it doesn't seem to so in further research and actually doing it a little bit myself. Yeah, once it's plotted Yeah, it doesn't seem to hurt the drive Okay, at all Plotting though. Yeah, you're hitting the driver is rough. Yeah, yeah like really rough So from talking to guys in the burst community, they're saying that it doesn't hurt it any more than normal use would yeah So I'm still not doing it on petabyte project Yeah, no because I just don't even want them spinning if they don't have to be Yeah, but on all these like janky drives that I had sitting in literally sitting in boxes around the warehouse Why not might as well? So before I go for the weekend, I'm gonna load up as many drives as I can on that system Run them through all weekend and then by sort of next week. I should actually have it all going so far I've made five dollars. Nice. Yeah, there you go. Do you know how much more than that? I've spent on electricity a lot I don't know exactly how much but a lot You can do dynamic plotting to are you gonna do that? No, I'm actually not familiar with dynamic plotting. Dynamic plotting is You are able to use the drive As you add more data to it, the plot will make itself smaller No, I probably won't do that and you set an offset so that you have room to put stuff Yeah, you put the stuff there and then it will shrink itself We can discuss it in the video, but that's not gonna happen You saw the machine I'm using no, I know I'm just saying for for people that have like It's already getting to the point where it's probably not that practical to try to mine with just like the drive in your computer Depending on the pool you join so the the difficulty so Okay, I'll get into this in the video But the more capacity you have the easier it is to respond to a job in time in sort of very very simple terms and So different pools, you know per machine basis or a per address That's a great question wonderful question no idea, okay anyway, so Different pools will have different thresholds for how quickly you need to be able to respond to a job in order to Benefit from the pool. Yeah, because if you're doing a job you need to be able to respond to a job in order to benefit from the pool, yeah, because if you're just someone with like 300 Megs and You're like never never going to actually discover a coin Because it's like each amount of capacity is kind of like buying more and more lottery tickets So if you just have like a tiny tiny amount you're basically just piggybacking off of the success of the big people in the pool So some pools have very strict requirements for how much capacity you have to have in order to be considered a contributing member Yeah, and in order to allow you to join So what you could do is you could join one of those pools even if you have a hundred Megs of data But you would just never qualify and your entries would just be rejected every time you would never benefit at all Hit your drive from plotting and then never and then never gain anything and then there's much much looser pools that have really really long times But those ones are full of a bunch of losers that you know, no one like are individually gonna find almost nothing So anyway right now it's that kind of like a weird stage where to get the most out of it You really do need a lot of drives like it's kind of transitioning that way interesting Not surprised so back to CPUs so AMD has made a couple fundamental errors here number one is Calculating ROI time ROI time is a flawed calculation because it is very easy to underestimate it or overestimate it You can't just look at how much it's bringing in today and go yes That is going to pay for itself in amount of time X Because because saying it will pay for itself in a mountain time X if nothing changes is just a sentence that doesn't matter Yeah, it will change it depends when and if you cash out It depends what currencies you're mining etc. Etc. Etc. Etc. Etc. Etc. It depends on whether you will even still be able to mine that particular algorithm Yeah, nine months down the road on a CPU So yeah depends on a lot of stuff Problem number the second is that there's more to the cost of a threadripper CPU than the cost of the CPU itself so Threadripper motherboards are like 300 plus dollars normal mining motherboards are in the neighborhood of a hundred plus to Around 200 for something like a SUSES b250 mining and you're going pretty hard if you go to that yeah The other issue here is that you could kind of go. Oh, okay. Well threadripper is only Like you know 50% so double to 50% more than a regular motherboard But you can effectively make use of the CPU socket as another mining you know node or whatever you want to call it as another miner Except the problem with that is that threadripper is limited to what is it seven PCIe devices or eight? Something like that. Yeah, so you could never have a threadripper mining optimized board Because you could never plug in enough GPUs To account for this difference in cost so while yes Theoretically you could mine on threadripper You would not do that if you were actually trying to build an optimized Dedicated mining machine you might not be though if you're picking a cpu for your home rig and you want to like mine overnight It would double your roi time for one because you're not 24 7 mining, but if you wanted like a beast machine cpu There's another problem Um, yeah, yeah, i'm just not sold. I don't think it makes sense power Yeah power, uh, it's probably not any worse than like remember they're comparing it to a vegas. No, I know but similar but But you're taking away from your roi time Yeah, because power is a cost so that will delay your roi time, which is a screwed up thing to measure anyways I think it's a little it's borderline nefarious in my opinion For a hardware company that isn't like selling asex because then who cares anyways? Um to be like it'll pay for itself in nine months That's a little uh, i'm not super stoked on that personally All right Putting it's like hash rates up and stuff Is fine. Maybe even if they do an article on like this is why you need l3 cache Yeah cpu man, you know, it's like You need l3 cache. Yeah cpu mining that makes makes a lot of sense It's like a blog post because a lot of people don't understand l3 cache anyways Yep. So if you're like look, this is a practical application that needs a bunch of it. Um That would be an interesting blog post all right, some random youtube channel or website or Uh podcast or whatever picked that up and was like, oh my goodness. You can mine with cpus That's fine because that's someone else doing that. So you bought this. Yeah Is this even legal here? Okay Technically 100% yes Uh-huh It actually making it here. I'm gonna give it like a 50 chance uh-huh My hope is that if they reject it, I can just tell them to ship it somewhere else. Uh-huh And then i'll just send it to my grandpa's or something and he can Get rid of scorpions with it. 20 000 flame throwers for 500 us dollars um They sold them within a couple of days. Yeah. Thanks twitch subscribers Um because they took paypal here's the caption here don't do this Also, I want it to be clear that a flame throw is a super terrible idea. Definitely don't buy one unless you like fun That's kind of lame I hadn't actually seen it fire yet that's really that's a really short Yeah, it's short burst Okay Which a lot of people were like, oh that's because of laws and Apparently basically nowhere has regulations on so one of the reasons why flamethrowers are not illegal in places Yeah, is because uh people use them as like weed Destruction torches basically, uh-huh, and that's apparently really common in like a lot of farmland and stuff Uh, which you think oh that's gonna start a forest fire apparently no because they just like do it properly and stuff I don't know. But yeah, there's there's no regulations around it in canada There is not a single beep about it in the firearms act Uh, it's it's apparently completely allowed. I even looked up import and custom stuff and there's imported custom stuff about knives Because i was talking about how I like switch blades Yeah, switch blades and stuff and I was talking about how I like Um, like pocket knives on my stream once so someone sent me one and it got grabbed by customs and customs was like We're keeping this forever screw you and I was like, oh, okay Well nothing I can do about that. So I looked it up and yeah, there's all the stuff about knives There's tons of stuff about guns. There's ways to do it properly with both of them because stores can do it You just can't do it personally And you can let you have to set up as an entity to be able to import it and blah blah blah nothing for flamethrowers So theoretically it's coming atf says any flamethrower with a flame shorter than 10 Feet 10 feet is a okay Our design is max fun for least danger. I'd be more scared of a steak knife This guy is such a troll Like he's such a troll so I want to cook with it But if I don't know what type of fuel it takes, so I don't know if that's possible Um, if it takes the right kind of fuel I want to it's like propane or something So then no, I think propane we can't no you can with propane cook. I'm you can't with uh, whatever tiki torches No, no, no, but tiki torches are like an oil. What fuel is that? Okay. Oh, yeah. Yeah No, it's gonna be that I mean i'm not an expert but it looks like it could be a propane flame to me It's very blue. I don't see any reason why that would not be a propane flame Especially because that would make it really uh, really cheap and really easy to um To refuel okay, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah Sale drew criticism from a california politician who said he would introduce legislation aimed at banning the flamethrowers We don't allow people to walk in off the street and purchase military-grade tanks or armor-piercing ammunition I cannot even begin to imagine the problems a flamethrower would cause firefighters and police officers With that said this is hardly a military-grade tank or armor-piercing ammunition If you need this to start a fire, this is basically a blowtorch shaped like a gun Like okay, it's a little longer But like if you can't go to the if you can't go to the hardware store Or like and find something that'll make a fire easier than this than I don't know man Like honestly that flame has got to be that's only maybe 18 inches. Maybe like you can get You can get blowtorches that'll do not much shy of that and probably hotter if you can jog around an office With your thing fully firing and everything's fine Yeah, like you could like you're saying military-grade whatever military you can run around an office shooting with a gun It's not gonna be fine Yeah, okay. I think it's hilarious So honestly now that i've seen it fire like I was disappointed. I didn't order one now. I don't even care It looks kind of lame Oh, oh you figure maybe you can mod it Maybe but it depends on the fuel like something like propane. I doubt it Yeah, I don't know if it is so maybe maybe people are spamming the chat telling us what it is um Canadian firearms laws so weird 22 stub nose pistol. Nope, you might hurt yourself while technically a cannon you can get in the same classification as a rifle that you would Canadian firearms law is such a joke It's so bad most stuff is classified by name instead of by specification So there's a lot of things that like look scary that are banned and there's things that are way scarier That don't look super scary. So they're not banned It's so weird Apparently tiki torches use butane someone backs me up that it looks like propane looks like propane What kind of tiki torches are we thinking then because i'm talking about those ones with like the wick and the like Kind of wicker thing around it. I have no idea what they take I thought they just used like uh like a wick soaked in a thing and they have like that lemon smell Am I thinking of something else? What is what's a tiki torch? tiki torch fuel sit No Yeah, no, that's not that's not like uh, I thought this is like a like a wax or like an oil Look at the way it burns. I could be wrong though Tiki torch fuel like the things that we end up. I don't I don't think it's a whack Um something something Doesn't say what it is. America's number one torch fuel pre-fueled Paradise in your backyard. Oh, wow. Please just tell me what is in it Thank you. I wish you would just tell me what's in it Oh, man tiki torch fuel americansale.com With lemongrass oil. Oh my goodness. Okay. Well either way they have a lot of like it's scented with this or it has whatever else eucalyptus formula Ah I'm dying. It's kerosene kerosene kerosene. All right. Now that oil keeps the bugs away. Yeah. Yeah, but that's not what here you go No, there's different kinds. This is why it's hard to find paraffin tiki green whatever this is But like that's like paraffin is a wax type. Okay, but yeah just something with a wick in it Like it's totally different from from this um Yeah, I don't know if anyone actually knows Let's see, I don't think you burn citronella. I think that's the yeah, that's the scent crap. Yeah Why twitch chat is spamming citronella? I think that's what like makes it smell good or keeps the bugs away or something. Apparently the slow mo guys Did a cool video using tiki torch oil. What haven't they done a cool video about that's fair All right, a lot of people saying kerosene. Oh finally Windows 10 defender is finally gonna block those shady free pc optimizer applications About time this is supposed to buy tech dreamer on the forum and the original article is from cloud blogs dot microsoft.com Protecting customers from being intimidated into making an unnecessary purchase. How did this take so long? I mean, i'm not mad like this is like the main thing that they should have been blocking Wow, there was something else that I was like Really mad about yeah, how does you know? How does windows not have a built-in screen recorder at this point outside of games? How is it that ios has this? And windows doesn't like there's just some baffling stuff that they haven't built in there's so, okay Have you heard i don't think it's in the doc but have you heard the rumors of? Uh, the companies microsoft is interested in buying no Oh, yeah, it's propane. Uh, just go to their website 20 ounce propane. There you go So there's no way you're gonna get a propane propane flame much longer than that. Sorry change what fuel it is Yeah, I don't know we're talking like okay to be clear I think there are going to be people putting new regs in them and there are going to be people changing out the gas I don't care. Sure. I'm not gonna do it. But um, I think it's gonna be i'm gonna go help my friend who lives on a farm clear Uh blackberry bushes with it Because that sounds fun, right? All right. Anyway, that's what i'll do. What were you saying about the uh, so this is like super rumor mill stuff And to be clear, i'm pretty sure if anything I think it's like insider information which is super rumor mill. No, no, no, I didn't hear this directly. This is posted on some website Sure. Okay. Um And it was very much like they're interested in doing this not those other companies are also okay with it Sure. So and one of them i'm very sure is not okay with it. Um, but pub g corp What ea what and valve Which they technically have the war chest money to deal with but like i'm sure the last one is not okay exactly Yeah, they're not okay with it pub g corp It sounds like their micro their minecraft acquisition, yeah, hey, this is already popular and everyone already bought it Let's now buy it to We're not really sure Um, but okay, actually, yeah part of the idea behind that. Sorry. I just remembered was not letting it go to playstation Because it's a timed microsoft xbox exclusive And I guess they're they might be trying to buy it before it can go to playstation And I heard that the idea of them acquiring ea is to get a whole bunch of exclusive. Can I let me cut you off right there If microsoft wanted a game studio Why did they get rid of microsoft game studios? Where's a mic need a mic Well, they still make it Well, they're still making microsoft games Because like uh, whatever that new pirate scheme sea of thieves is like a microsoft game Yeah, like not much. They used to be an actual major game developer Yeah, well i'm assuming maybe they want to get back into that. I don't know. Okay, so The ea acquisition idea is interesting because there's a lot of ways to hate that because more exclusives for xbox and stuff um, but I mean Everyone already hates ea pretty much at a maximum capacity already. So yeah Maybe they can't hate them even more. I don't know. Maybe it's not that big of a deal. I don't know Um, yeah, I don't think any of that's gonna happen. I just wanted to bring out microsoft stuff Um, all right. What else we got here? This is all boring Uh apple delays ios features to focus on stability. That seems like a good idea Couldn't use that speaking of built-in screen recording couldn't use it today without rebooting It would listen it would just go and then you could stop it and then the clip would just be gone Yeah, we tried a few times and was broken. Um for ios 12. They've been working on a redesigned homescreen app grid um Hopefully by redesign they mean exactly the same except I can move stuff where I'm on it Uh multiplayer mode for augmented reality games. Ah Augmented reality is so bad Like it is so bad We're just we're not even close we're so many years away he's okay it's bad max It's bad What can I help you with? I don't know if he does No, we're streaming Um Uh A merger of the third party applications running on iphones and max do I Yvonne told me you didn't have time after work Um, okay improvements to facetime Um Longest standing video game record was thrown out after 35 years. Uh, this was by tog rogers It was for his dragster record. Yeah, obviously it was Impossible because it's like physically impossible to happen in the game So are a lot of his like 1400 other video game records a lot of them are physically impossible including records that are like not actually able to be gotten in the game because like your score goes up in increments that His score isn't at like a lot of the games there'll be in increments of like 10 and his score will end in like a five It's like that. It's not how that works Or he'll play donkey kong and like the next highest person is like 10 million points below him Um, yeah, no, it's super bs and uh, uh, where is it? Sorry. Give me one second Twin galaxies records. He has so many records in twin galaxies that make no sense at all Um and like and they're the official source for guinness's world records and a lot of A lot a lot or all of his records were posted through One person who's now like in jail And like the tapes were seized by the police. So he's like, oh, yeah All the tapes of my records are just gone because of that But then people have contacted the police and they're like, uh, no we return them all and there's like basically none Um, so yeah, todd rodger's records super bs Moving on now His personal website offered a simple explanation of how he achieved his unbeatable time Uh while maintaining that activision's certification of his time highlighted in one of the company's newsletters was enough to cement his place on the gaming leaderboards Great. That's makes sense There's even like someone took apart A game i'd found that like one of the games that he played it's electronically impossible for him to get the score that he got There's another game where um I can't remember what it's called barnstorming or something like that You fly a plane and you have to fly through barns and you have to dodge other things They removed all the ops and so when you go up and down to dodge obstacles, you lose a little bit of horizontal speed So you're supposed to skim things, right? You're supposed to move up and down as little as possible and go as straight as you can But you have to move a little bit So they removed all the obstacles from the game and just flew in a straight line and didn't even make his time So they're like dude your bs, I don't know dude's a joke it's finally being recognized that's good because There's too many cheaters in the speedrunning community and the speedrunning community is great. So stop There's also a lot of really legit awesome people in the speedrunning community. So there you go that aren't toad rogers So this is pretty great tivo will let users auto skip the football to watch just the super bowl commercials original article from tech crunch um In other news, there's a new app that you can only use when you have five percent battery or less It's called die with me an anonymous chat app that you can use on ios or android It costs 99 cents and there's usually about 30 people active in the chat at any given time That's hilarious. Um, and youtube will now be labeling state-funded news broadcasts. Now. Here's a question Do they label cnn and fox news? Do they label cnn and fox news? Are are those I don't think there's the Not technically, but there are people who would argue on either side that they might as well be funded by the left or the right Oh geez And I think on that note we're done here time to run away thanks for tuning into the wands show We've got a lot of great stuff up on floatplane. I can't show it to you because i'm logged in as an administrator on the uh, Forum, so I can't share my screen with you, but there's some good stuff there Uh, you can share it here and just highlight the things. Oh, yeah, I can do that. Yes. I think I can do that Line up the screen because you don't open the threads anymore. Uh, okay, so lg wallpaper tv complete That's a good thumbnail. Hey, yeah, I think we're finally getting a little bit better at them. Yeah, uh designing our new gaming set Oh, I think this went up simultaneously, but that's a good thumbnail too. It is actually this big. That was cool Is that on youtube? Yeah, it's on youtube. Yeah. Okay. That was cool. Um, Can you build your own mechanical keyboard another good thumbnail? Yes, we're finally getting it. I think yeah, it took a long time um Is eight gigs of ram enough in 2018? That's more than eight gigs minor details minor details aren't those at least it's not a tampon So isn't that like more than 100 gigs? I don't know Um, oh god The fastest laptop we've ever seen Eight cores in a laptop. Well, this was cool Wow full desktop cpu Okay, it's actually an am4 processor in there with an am4 socket. Yes, that's cool. Yes Um hashtag tampon gate You can watch it there. Oh, we did another episode of ultimate compact pc Nice. Ooh with the jedi one. Yeah That's cool star wars card um picture of some guy with like Seven of each mining and I was like really really Hashtag doing it wrong. 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