 We should just change our starting time to 4.35. Never mind that that's a completely awkward time to start the show. The problem is, if we do that, we'll go live at 4.40. I guess that's true. It's just, it's something about you. We're fashionably late. Fashionably late. Why is it something about me? Well, I mean, with you everything seems to be about you. You're a very self-centered person. Speaking of which, I guess we're on the Linus Tech Tips show! Hosted by Linus Media Group. Featuring the Linus Tech Tips Forum. Are you implying that I'm projecting? No. I'm not implying anything. Because I think you have a very suspicious disposition and you always throw accusations around. It's all about that. Alright, speaking of projecting, Google is projected... It worked, kind of worked. Not really. The thing that's on the street is that Google has basically reached a deal to buy Twitch for a billion dollars. That's the video streaming site that we are streaming on right now. This was rumored a while back. Yeah, exactly. This was rumored a while back, but never actually confirmed. And even though a lot of places are reporting that it's a done deal, it still is. Oh, right. We're not actually doing the topic. I'm doing call-outs. Right. So that's a thing. Also, Ubisoft plans to send a fan to Mount Everest to play Far Cry 4. Copy us much? Yeah, seriously. Right? Am I right? Yeah. What else we got? We kind of... I don't know. Microsoft is planning on merging all of their versions of Windows into one, just in case you didn't know that was happening. We'll talk about that later. I should call it Uber Edition. We should call it Barnacley's Edition. And it should have like, tears on the box. Speaking of which, our guest today is Barnacley's. Barnacley's. A British MP wants to punish people for stealing in-game items with real-world punishments like jail. It's kind of a big deal. And... The in-game punishments weren't working. Like calling them buttholes in the chat. You're a jerk. Go away. Please stop. My mom says to ignore comments from you. Oh, there we go. Okay, he's a rat! To learn online with videos. I mean aside from our channel You can learn all kinds of things on Linda.com that we don't cover so I don't really consider them a competitor You know I don't really consider a conflict of interest for me to sponsor them just like they don't consider it a conflict for me to make An educational video about something and then promote their educational videos Maybe we should turn this into a bitter rivalry. We should make speaking of self-centered. We should make the minus Com Linus.com and then we need like a picture of me being like Looking into a book but very angry They're like this with the most neutral tone possible. Yeah, our other sponsor is actually Intel they're gonna have a pretty cool presence at nerd HQ involving giving money away to charities and giving processors away to cool people like you and and Yay, so I will tell you more about that how to win a processor how to make Intel give a dollar to a Pretty awesome charity. So we'll cover that later on. What can I do? I told you there would be people in the chat wondering why I was here because I quit Really? Really? Okay, let's be clear. So in in the in a recent video in the age 220 X video. Okay, I I Asked okay a couple things happen that were real and a couple things happen that weren't real So the things that were real were that the age 220 X is pretty kick-ass. It performs really well. It's expandable It's quiet kick-ass product great value Another thing that was real. I did indeed ask Luke to you know shave parts of me that I couldn't on my own But I mean the thing about that is that really what I was talking about was my back I mean the coin purse isn't exactly an issue as long as there's some stretchiness to the skin you can kind of maneuver it the way that you need to Have you seen that video where the guys are like? And they have to shave it's a YouTube commercial thing It's like it shows like all the weird things that guys do to their face so they can shave properly, right? Yeah, like they're trying to like flatten out their face so they can shave properly. Yeah. Yeah, it's like they should have a non safer work commercial Make more money it's you gotta be careful saying things like they should have They shouldn't have they shouldn't have funny So I so I fired so I fired Luke for refusing to do that that part wasn't real He did not get fired It would be fun if you did that though cuz then I could make tons of money in the legal system tons of money You know, I don't have enough money for it to be tons of money Yeah, I would run out of money and then how would you feel I can take your totally doesn't exist at all Lambo Yeah, exactly, which would be great because it doesn't exist at all You could you could like depending on how long you could hold a chair position With your hands in front of you like this you could drive down the street in the Shuffle foot thing speaking of imaginary and And employees screwing over their employers who were just trying to do something cool this So there's an imaginary game called Yawg ventures And there's an artist who was originally supposed to work on the project that basically took the $35,000 that was allocated to Presumably him not actually sure but but allocated to the artist and then went and took a job at Lucas Arts or Lucasfilm I think it was Lucasfilm and Basically booked it with $35,000 for what was supposed to be about six months of work But actually ended up being two weeks worth of work this caused the Yawg's cast folks to basically lose faith in winter cool games and ask for 150,000 of the Kickstarter money to be given to them and trust to take care of the physical prizes as well as to You know, this was it's very unclear This is all very nebulous right now because it's he said she said except she's not talking so So apparently according to winter cool 100,000 of that was supposed to be for miscellaneous things like appearances at trade shows and some promotional activities as well as hiring a lead programmer However right now basically the project is completely dead winter cool is insolvent. They're bankrupt and Yawg's cast is not saying much publicly at least so Yawg's cast is the female in this situation? I guess so sure she said she didn't comment sure. Yes. Yes. I just wanted to clarify so basically what's going on now is Yawg's cast has said look there's a lot of inconsistencies in the story that people are being told but we don't really see the point of issuing a statement right now It looks like they're gonna kind of wait for the dust to settle But the big question everyone's asking right now is what happened to that hundred thousand dollars that wasn't for physical Rewards and what are they gonna do because up till now Yawg's cast has been pointing people towards winter cool to get refunds Which obviously is not going to happen when they're at this point So, let me see if there's anything else that I kind of missed here. Getting refunds from Kickstarter things just aren't isn't really a thing as far as I can tell Kickstarting games is just a big problem because and then this is I mean honestly This is the same trap that the Yawg's cast guys fell into is they they trusted a bunch of guys who were experienced filmmaker like animation veterans But didn't necessarily have and by their own admission didn't necessarily have the business savvy to actually create a game studio And so the problem here is that when you put your trust in animators and filmmakers Who are great at telling stories and making things look great To make something That they actually don't have any experience doing you end up with a very good trailer for something that might not be anything like that It might not end up existing at all So one thing that Yawg's cast has done is they've given everyone a copy of nerd Kings King's King's Tugs King's Tugs open-world game But some of the backer options things like named in-game items are They've already said are not or may not be available in that game and so Some people are apparently pissed. They haven't communicated much publicly like I said, although Reading through comments has actually been more enlightening than reading the articles about what's going on because I've seen people saying Well, hey, I heard from them and they're doing this or they're doing that or apparently Yawg's cast is commenting behind the scenes a lot They're talking to backers directly probably through the Kickstarter platform or other things Instead of making public statements, which is I get that Yeah, you don't owe an explanation to the people who didn't give you their money at this point Yeah, but then if you are actively communicating with the Kickstarter people, that's cool So I guess from them it's just a matter of PR damage control Like how do you how do you keep yourselves from looking any more bad than you already look? Do you make a public apology when in reality? Probably a small fraction like very small fraction of the people that are actually making the public statements Of the people that they would reach with with a video blast or like a you know, an apology in every video for a week Have actually have actually even heard of this Yeah So why bring it up if it's something where they're going to try and figure out a way to take care of these people? I guess we just need to see if they end up resolving it to people's satisfaction I mean I I I I see so many ways that this went south. I mean winter cool was expecting Yawg's cast to pimp the game a lot Yeah, and so that they'd get that pre-order revenue which would help them pay salaries Which would help them actually develop the game that they promised to develop Yawg's cast didn't want to I mean obviously if we were if we were funding development of a Linus Tech Tips game we're like I I don't know like it's like a side scroll or combat game where I like shout You're fired! Linus Media Group presents a Linus Tech Tips production Linus shoots things You're fired! So if that was the objective and the game was coming along at a pace I wasn't comfortable with and a quality level that I wasn't comfortable with Am I gonna throw my name behind it more and more and more like On the other hand, you know if they if they saw this going south was their time to To deal with it more properly Salvage it maybe at the time that they renegotiated the contract shortly after the Kickstarter when that artist left And was there time to kind of terminate it then I I don't know It's very hard to say whose fault this is without actually having been on the inside of one side or the other or in reality Probably both To really know what happened there Pretty interesting. There's uh, I talked about a few kickstarters that I've done for the last while but one of them I I'm not gonna remember the name of it, but it's I tried to buy it as a present for My dad I bought it in In January of 2012 And the plan was I bought it on kickstarter january 2012 That was well within the estimated shipping date and I was hoping that it would show up for christmas of 2013 So like 20 or christmas of 2012, I guess technically Um, it didn't it still didn't show up yet They still haven't even locked down a manufacturer yet and they still don't have their final prototype done yet So, I don't know I used to be like way behind kickstarters and I just mostly ignore that whole website now Yeah Except for like there was that wonderful potato salad I got some never mind that it was in the mail stuck in customs for two weeks. It was delicious I'm just just kidding. I did not buy potato salad, but that is very likely what would happen It would go bad before it got to you, but it's I see it for things like that balloon thing that we saw recently Where the guy has already completely designed it and it's done. Yeah That's like, okay, it's it's basically it's just a pack Of pre-attached balloons on three plastic nozzles and the idea is you can fill 100 water balloons in under a minute Which is beast. Nozzle fill them up and then you give it a shake and they all pre-tie So you can fill up a big thing of them and it costs like however much for a pack And i've seen a lot of people going move. It's you know, like really stupid It's like really stupid that it's one-time use blah blah. How is that more efficient? It's more efficient because and people have been like you should be able to put the balloons back on the thing I'm like, that's not any faster than tying them by hand. The idea here is that for a couple bucks Let's say you're a scout troop or something Okay So for like 100 bucks when you organize an event you can have you know, however many hundreds of water balloons Ready to go in like a few minutes instead of wasting a whole day Instead of wasting an entire day having volunteers sit and tie water balloons when you factor in how much people's time is worth It's it's a pretty good deal I think it's even if you're just a home resident if it's really nice outside you want to go play with water balloons instead of Filling up water balloons for half an hour to an hour. You can just be like Tie tie this thing on three or four times then you're good to go I guess not that bad and it's already fitted to screw onto your hose So it's super easy This is awesome. This is a kickstarter that I backed just so that when it doesn't arrive or when it's a gigantic piece of crap Um, I can make a video about how stupid backing isn't it not shipping until like 2016 or something End of the year next year or something like that I don't think I have sound I can't hear it. Anyway, hold on and somewhere in between is this guy Introducing jibo the world's first family robot say hi jibo. Hi jibo Jibo helps everyone out. So that wasn't hard coded. He's the world's best cameraman By intelligently tracking the action around him. He can independently take video and photos So that you can put down your camera and be a part of the scene Take the picture I don't know the other focus Anyway, the point is um If that manages to arrive in 2015 and if it has anywhere near the level of of Interaction ability it's up on the table in that shot, isn't it? Yeah, so you have to like carry it Yeah, you have to like move it around and stuff like it's just it's the kind of thing where it's like it's like someone was watching the jetsons and they're just like Wow, let's do that. Let's like let's start an indigo. Go. Let's make the little like cleaner robot except like Stationary sits on the table. I'm like twitch. I was like NSA Skynet All right, I just got an email from the owner of the Swift tech I didn't Well, whatever I'm cooler than you so I just got an email but you're gonna like the scene actually I got two emails today that you're gonna be pretty stoked on. Yeah So we have an exciting new project to announce We are going to be liquid cooling an entire room of computers on a single loop So we're gonna give you guys way more details in the coming weeks But basically it's all coming together. I've already got our sponsor confirmed for cases power supplies and Because we like we want all the hardware to be somewhat similar. So we're not just Frankensteining every single one of them as a one-off So we're consolidating on a single case. We're going to be using a cooler master and 600 We're all going to be using their v750 modular power supply So actually a really good power supply a hard ocp just did a review on the on the v series and validated What I was pretty sure we already knew about them. But anyway, they had a review recently anyway, so we're getting those Water cooling is now locked down. So every machine will have an apo gxl as well as a swift x full cover With like the lighting back plated full cover block for an nvidia graphics card We are going to have radiators mounted to the systems on quick disconnects So that in the event that a system does have to be moved we can disconnect it from the room wide loop Connect it to its own rad and move it without interrupting the rest of the machines We are going to have the radiators mounted outside the building So the idea here is that because it's been so hot in the office We will be able to take the heat out of the room with our liquid cooling because contrary to what a lot of people think Water cooling doesn't make your room run cooler. Okay, just dumps more heat in the room Yeah, it will dumps the same amount of heat in the room Basically exactly the same base. I'll go with basically the same basically It's a very very very small rounding error So the point I just can't say exactly the point is that really I can't say exactly the point is that removing it from the room is the only way to make your room Actually cooler and when you have a bunch of people editing videos in a room, then that's like this is a solution for not buying um Air conditioning. Yeah. Okay. So anyway, they're gonna go to a series of radiators mounted outside the house and a reservoir That's gonna sit in a bathtub. That's like a five gallon reservoir We're gonna have an industrial grade pump and then every system will actually have its own pump as well To help deal with the pressure drop as the water goes through all the components So we're not going to have any undue strain on any one part of the entire setup So every yeah, every computer will have six five fives um, so so funny story Uh, yeah, yeah six five six five five pumps so funny story is I reached out to nvidia because we were going to need cards that were compatible with the blocks and I asked them if it was okay for us to get 780s because we do use kuda for a lot of our editing needs We do have a couple of 780s around here But the problem is that they're non-reference And so the one that we have that's reference is the one that we use for our reference benchmarking And then the non-reference ones we have are not compatible with water cooling And if we were to take all the heat from the cpus out of the room That would help a little bit but not enough to be worth a project like this You want to get that gpu heat out of the room? I think just buying an air conditioning unit would be I think you're crazy. Anyway, the point is that um, You know, I got an email back from them. They kind of went, uh I'm not sure about this project Um, I think that titan blacks would be more appropriate for something like workstation use in this manner So, uh, so apparently everyone's workstation is getting a titan black. Do I get one too? Uh, no Because you're not in that room You can request a transfer I'll have the ceo look at it personally my computer just straight up blue screen when I was working on the other day I was like damn my ghetto system Um, so so that's happening that's cool. So we're moving all of our editors to six core lga 2011 Uh, not everyone has an extreme edition. I don't think and then to titan blacks for all the kuda taryn will finally have a computer that can like Actually use other people's files properly. I know I know we have one of our editors on an amd card and there's nothing Inherently bad about that. It's just that the other guys are using plugins and tools that are kuda tools Yeah, and so when he goes to work on their stuff on his computer It's just like or the other way around if the nvidia card tries to open something that the md card was working on it's Every time it's they they don't really like using the same file sets. So if anyone wants to ever work with something that He was working with or the other way around it's yeah, it's not good for the workflow It's good to consolidate on one platform when you're trying to when you're trying to share work between people Yeah, i'm just trying to think if there's anything else that I am forgetting Some people have been like luke stop him. I've told them many many many many many many times Oh, yeah, we we know this is crazy. Oh, yeah 100. Yep. We're 100 certain that this is a crazy idea But it's gonna be freaking awesome. It's gonna be fun Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be fun. We're gonna do worst case scenario The whole room loop is a complete disaster the pipes blow off and the water's all over the place and we kind of go Oh crap, and then my dad didn't hard pipe the whole thing and then we Hey, I've already thought about it we should do that I know we should just do that anyway probably We could get a fatter line too. Yeah. Yeah How much would he charge for that I could ask him? I don't know. Yeah, I know i'll ask him. He's not back yet I was already going to talk to him Interesting Because I think that'll solve like quite a few people are like luke stop him But luke's just trying to figure out how to take it to a whole new level of insanity Okay, I've accepted that it's happening now. It's just how can we make it even more ridiculous and cool? Yeah, because I was just gonna like I was just gonna come up with some kind of like a wall mounting bracket thing Or something to run the tubing around but we could just put like roof hooks, but that would be better Anyway, worst case scenario. We disconnect the whole room thing We give up and we go to each system being individually liquid cooled, which isn't that crazy No, a d5 liquid cooled system with swift hack gear is not a problem. It's fine It's fine It'll be fine No problem. We'll just move the rads inside the case. We should totally overclock the workstations You know, we have to do it once we don't have to worry about the heat dump into the room and we don't have to worry about throttling because the Problem is that two of their systems are thermal throttling when it would be vending. That would be an interesting case for binning Yeah Because we could see we could try to limit every system and then see which ones come out like which I think we don't have enough of the same processor. Not really. Yeah, because we have like I think we have like 139 60x 149 oh, yeah, so they'll be kind of and then we have a k. Yeah, I think those are those are the six cores we have So, I don't know Alright So yeah, we are we are we are this is gonna be all the pipes could be copper even Yeah, and that would just be so nice. Yeah I don't know. It'd be pretty cool. And you gotta be badass. He clear coats all of his pipes too, right? So it would look awesome Yeah and like it wouldn't like we'd have to figure out how we want the The fittings to work to come out to the systems because I'd want to be able to move desks around if we really need to You know Like if we had like a like a fitting you could you could t-line every once in a while and then have it go to a flexible Pipe. Okay, we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. So, uh, so yeah, we'll be we'll be we'll be overclocking the workstations Maybe just a little bit not a ton. You don't want to overclock a workstation to the max but uh Anyway, so the confirmations here the fact that we've got cases power supplies Knocked to us in already. So all right, the outside fans will be their uh, their water resistant fans Which totally makes sense. We actually came up with it's funny because I teased them about it in the video I was like, why does anyone need a waterproof fan? That's stupid. Oh, we do Oh wait, because we're doing something because we're gonna hang Quadruple rads off the fascia boards of the building and then have fans behind them We're gonna have those running off swift tech pwm splitters so that we can actually control them if we really need to And then we're gonna have um all those I figure we'll probably run those rads all in parallel Because otherwise you're gonna get a lot of pressure drop from five quadruple rads in a row so Yeah Her neighbor's just gonna be like what? Our neighbor's like this super nice lady who's like super nice, but also pays a lot of attention to our house She's a good neighbor um Which means she'll notice that there's like stuff hanging off our house So epic so she'll probably ask us Yeah, yeah super super nice lady, but she'll notice weird loud things Yeah, but what the hell are those? Should I ask for 2,000 rpm or 3,000 rpm? I mean when we're talking about that much surface area 2,000 rpm is probably fine, right? On the other hand 3,000 rpm is like a thousand more rpm. Yeah, we have those controllable splitters. That's true So we could just pull it down. We could we could just get a pwm fan controller And hook that up there. IGN has a delayed video launch. Sorry It's actually not too bad because it auto plays but it auto plays after a while and it tells you that it's going to do that So I don't hate this as much as tweaked out. Okay, so this is like the biggest copycat ever because um It wasn't that long ago that linus media group and tech syndicate and uh, austin evans and new a tv They uh went to the top of mountain to play a video game. So I literally can't even Uh, sorry what I literally can't even that's a that's a thing. I literally can't even Then so anyway, the point is ubisoft announces a far cry 4 competition quest for Everest which basically is going to offer one lucky fan the opportunity to play far cry 4 Sorry What we should get we should try and push to get john in to get john in that was the guy that yeah I know who john is. Yeah I don't know if we'd be able to create a video entry that would be good enough to win it I mean the grand prize is for i've only found i've only found one person who has a submission so far And they're not going to make it really. Yeah, okay Well, it's a 14 night sponsor specified accommodation thing. You get a guided trek to the mount everest base camp To be clear. You will not be going to the summit I've seen a lot of a few different reporting sites and a lot of different people talking about oh my god going to the summit Is impossible? And no, it's to the base camp. That's not like it's still going to be crazy ridiculously Ridiculous, but it's not to the summit. So this is basically the success rate So how many summits and what the success rate was over the last however many years? This is from national geographic Yeah, national geographic so you can see that If ubisoft was trying to get a gamer to the top and nothing against gamers. I love gamers gamers are good people But climbing mount everest is not something where being a good person is impossible Being a good person is enough It's not about that. It's about being in a you have such a good heart that you just like float to the top Yeah, it's about being in an amazing physical condition. Like this isn't the Grinch man This isn't the little dog carries the sled to the top of the mountain like no big deal This is like serious stuff and you got to train for it You got to acclimate to the to the altitude you have to you have to just have a physical Physical disposition that is capable of handling it like you might just be unlucky and can't do it And that's fine. You're not a bad person. You're just not able to summit mount everest So it's just like that's fine Which I think some people who i've who i've seen who have commented on oh, it's just a base camp That's like stupid. I think probably don't realize that base camp is still pretty intense Their base camp is incredibly high and it's like not that easy to get to and their base camp is more just like a grouping of tents, I believe Let me just find the elevation of the uh of the base camp. It's still really really high I think I think their base camp was considerably taller than the mountain that we climbed Uh, yes. Yeah. Yeah, so base camp is about 17 and a half thousand feet Uh, and then there's a north base camp in tibet at i'm just shy of 17,000 feet But you'll be i'm pretty sure this is thousands of feet higher than we were when we did our Our mount elbert summit thing with the land party like it's nuts. Yeah so basically the The the articles about this are like yeah They uh, they asked us to pass along that there's an inherent risk of death And significant injury to persons and property associated with the quest for everest experience and by participating winner understands and assumes this risk And there's like tons of physical trials that you have to undergo before they'll even accept you and if you don't pass the physical Trials and they picked you they'll just pick someone else Like they're dropping all of your awards and all of your prizes and just picking someone else Because they're not going to deal with like having someone that isn't ready to go up This is something I actually wasn't even aware of this is crazy overcrowding. Yeah the overcrowding like apparently climbing everest is like Like it's become kind of nuts. That's that's the reason why I wanted to show that original graphic of success rate because gear ability of sherpas knowledge on the internet all this kind of stuff has massively increased your possibility of making it up especially stuff like gear and Technology and pre-run lines and knowledge in general like that The south path is a lot better to take than the north path and a few other things like that But there's been massive overcrowding Um, people have brought up that of course, there's better times to climb than others So these photos are probably taken during really good times to climb, but it doesn't get rid of the fact that as of right now A lot of people are making it to the top and these groups are all going as once So you're going to be walking in this like conga line almost the whole way up walking and climbing there's shots I don't know if they're necessarily in here even when there's like 10 to 20 people on the same rope Yep, going up the side and then there's a serious garbage issue Where I think right now there's uh something in effect where you have to come down with a minimum amount of garbage Or else you get fined or something right and a lot of people are just paying the fine And there's just tons of garbage it's Not good really not good But yeah I wanted to point that out because it's almost unfortunate timing that they're bringing more attention to Everest Everest right now Because they're going through all these problems of overcrowding and garbage issues and stuff like that There's even groups coming together where they climb part way up and just grab all the garbage that they possibly can and then come back down Right because they're trying to clean up the mountain because it's so bad It's like wow Okay, people just ruin everything don't they? All right speaking of ruining everything it's time to bring Barnacles onto the show So, um, do you want to get him sort of arranged over there while I cover our ruin? I cover our rumor topic This was originally posted by tech check and speaking of words whose spelling have nothing to do with how to pronounce them Check like really cz. What's what's cz? Um, apparently I made a mistake in last night's or the night before's tech quickie video where I pronounced Brisbane Brisbane and for that I am very sorry. Is it not even spelled that way though? No b-r-i-s-b-a-n-e Or whatever. Okay. Yeah, it's spelled that way But that's not how you say it and within Moments of the video being up there were comments about Herder lol-linus-doesn't-know-how-to-pronounce-Brisbane and my wife was like what really? Even I knew that you know how good I am at geography. I'm like, yeah. Okay. Yeah, I made a mistake It's very funny Um, so yes my bad you guys. I'm very sorry to everyone who lives in You know india or wherever brisbane is Um, just kidding. Just kidding. I know it's not in india. Um, so i'm very sorry to all of you down under and I apologize And can I can I help you with something? I didn't have headphones All right. I wanted to do a quick rumor topic before we bring on our large guest Um, here we go. So this was originally posted by tech check and it is rumored that the gta I'm getting a look from him right now. It was rumored that the gtx 870 and 880 are coming in October it is rumored to be a gm204 chip still a 28 nanometer chip. Are you looking for a splitter? Can I help you? Yeah with finding a splitter. Where's the splitter? It's supposed to live right here. You are splitting my patience Um, I have no idea there should be one in here in that bin. Oh, okay. That's good Touch it with your feet some more You know, I don't have to plug my things into that You don't touch it when you plug it in. Well, I could or I could taste it No, I won't do that. Okay. Anyway, the point is just did my phone soap thing Don't like the size of the chip is estimated to be between gk 104 and gk 110 which makes sense I mean gk 104 was never really intended. This is again all conspiracy theory Theory and video has never confirmed this but it was never seemed to be really intended to be a truly high-end chip But gk 110 was extremely large and very expensive. So it's rumored to perform better than us than an a 780 ti Memory interface is rumored to be 256 bits and it is rumored to consume less power than 780 ti Um, and the memory capacity is rumored to be eight gigabytes So that's quite the uh, quite the set of rumors there about gigabytes and uh Bits anyway, I don't have anything to say about that. I haven't heard anything from nvidia at this time So that's why i'm going ahead and commenting on rumors speaking of rumors There's one rumor that I wasn't able to comment on not that long ago. But of course now nvidia has uh unveiled Can't say anything about it because the review embargo has not passed yet I'm not even going to say when that is but I will say I do have a shield tablet And I don't even think I can say like it's great or anything. I think all I can say Are you allowed to show it on camera? Well, they have pictures of it. I didn't show anything that no one's ever seen before So yeah, I can't imagine we'll get in too much trouble. I mean, what are they gonna do? Tell us we can't have our titan blacks. They could do that. Ooh Um that never happened Continue on with the show internet, please do not give us away Please do not give us away And without further Whatever this guy Hi, what's up guys? Hey, welcome to the show barnacles. I'm back Did you hear the one about the guy who lost his job? Oh, man guys. I about pissed myself when you said uh barnacles edition with tears on the box I lost it. Oh my god How are you doing, man? No, i'm hanging in there, you know like life's gonna change a whole lot But uh, whoa, man, i'm moving around. Okay. No, uh, i'm doing all right Actually, I wasn't doing so good a couple days ago, but i'm doing all right Here i'm just gonna I want to position you correctly. So you're kind of a reasonable size. So Uh, well, okay. Don't take that the wrong way I lose my job every like three days It's okay. I've been on the internet for a while these fat joke things I come to expect them I get worried when they go away actually no that wasn't even where I was going with that one. It slipped out You know, I just I you skittles are all alike every one of you. Hey, all right So tell me this What's the plan? Well, the plan is at this point i've got time i've got enough resources saved up to get me through Uh, you know I can for about six months a year i'm thinking so i'm gonna i'm gonna go ahead and try to be My own boss. I'm gonna try to push the youtube thing. I'm gonna try to work on my gaming company opulent studios uh founded that with a bunch of friends want to get that back off the ground and See where it takes me if if the internet rejects me and doesn't lovers me Well, then i'll probably have to go back to the corporate empire so That's the point you figure you've got a year worth of nest egg to develop hey, that's that's not bad That's very doable No, do you have enough to get some to get some help or would you be trying to one man army at ala? Marcus brownlee or you know a lot of those guys who have who have shown that you can have great success on youtube even without An entire crew Well in in the beginning and i'm gonna go it alone on the youtube side But on the development side i've actually got a crew i've got a graphics artist another developer and a pm That are all involved on the development side So i'm kind of gonna be working two different projects in two different corporations The barnacles nerdgasm thing will be just under me in the opulent studios will be under me and three other people. So But as far as bringing somebody in on youtube, that's not something that i'm like Against I mean it's something it's something that at some point i'm gonna have to do If it gets to the point where I need to create more than say like one video a day five days a week I mean at some point i've got to be able to go do something else other than make videos Yeah, you tell yourself that now I'm already feeling the pressure too. Let me tell you not having a job to go to it's hard to It's I used to be able to come home and justify and be like, ah, you know, i'm kind of tired And i'm just gonna tweet out i'm not gonna make a video. It's fine Now i'm like wow, I sat at home for eight hours and I didn't make a video. I better make a video And you know the funny thing is you go and you hire people to supposedly, you know Help you make more videos or reduce your workload and you just end up pouring it right back into production values Or other projects or whatever else the case may be like every time I find a way to alleviate some of the pressure Like this week I had nick who's actually my sales guy script an episode of fast as possible He did a great job the ambient occlusion video is coming out this weekend or monday And uh, so I had him do that and then i'm spending all of my time scripting a build guide So it's like i'll just find some other massive project. So the build guide was going to be the build guide and then i'm like Oh, yeah, i've got a little bit more time to work on this I'm gonna go get some plasti dip and i'm gonna like figure out ways to to really make this one pop We're gonna take this build guide to the next level Yeah, no, I definitely get that I'm gonna have the i'm gonna have the same problem because i'm used to taking all of the revenue the channel's generated thus far And just dumping it back into camera equipment lighting equipment stuff for the cave upgrades for the computers And now i've got to figure out how to like somehow leverage that to support my family at the same time is still maintaining that So it's it's gonna be tricky. That's why i'm glad I have time to make it happen It's not gonna happen overnight I'm probably gonna drift into the red before I drift into the black But you know, I won't know unless I try and it'll bug the hell out of me if I don't You know what? I'll say that I hope is really encouraging. Um, like there have been exceptions there have been the people um who watched linus tech tips before we you know sold out which is always funny to me because I I these days I have far less reason to care if someone buys the product that I review then Back when I worked at a company whose existence relied on people buying the products I was making videos about Yeah, so if you trusted me then you should probably trust me now because it's it's not really any different It's certainly not any worse, but there were the people who who watched back then and haven't liked it since we started having to actually support ourselves and make a living off of this content, but by and large the the vast vast majority of our viewers of our audience Never skipped a beat and have continued to support us no matter what it is We're doing whether it's t-shirts or whatever else it is So I would I would venture I would hazard a guess That if you asked your community to step up and help support you now that you don't have a day job They will probably do it I'll agree with that my community has been more supportive than I ever thought they would be and to be honest when the morning That I was laid off kumis complete surprised me Uh, you know, I was thinking about it and I was like god I'm I need to go find another job absolutely have to go find another job that whole day That's all I could think of and I and it wasn't until I saw the positive feedback that I got on twitter on facebook Even on the comments on the video that I posted I was surprised I mean, it's got a it got like a hundred dislikes to 12 or 14 000 likes and i've never had that kind of ratio before so The community really knows how to come together And you know as long as you're straight with them and you let them know what's going on It seems like they're they're cool with it You're always going to have the trolls no matter what you're always going to have the trolls that come out and say oh my god You're a sellout you're doing this. Oh, you've changed. Oh, I don't like what you're doing now That's but that's always been there before I made it a career, you know, so I I still expect that to be there But by and large, I think the community is going to back me up if they enjoy what I do I'm going to keep doing it And if they if they decide they don't enjoy it anymore and the community starts to go away Well, then that's my sign. I probably shouldn't be in this business and I should go actually get a job, you know Yep, 100 agree. And I mean I've I've messaged you privately saying I think you're doing a great job in terms of Developing your style developing your delivery. I think I gave you some feedback that wasn't quite as positive but Uh, it was it changed my direction a little bit though. If you notice my videos aren't 30 minutes long anymore And you know what's funny about it is no matter what and and you can listen to me or you can listen to someone else Or whatever else everyone's going to have a different idea for how you can run it So if there's any advice that I can give you right now, it's tune out the advice Unless you really truly believe in your heart of hearts that it's exactly what you need to be doing because otherwise You'll go in a thousand different directions and you'll be spreading so thin its own channel, too Well, the nice thing about me is i've got the adhd thing going on for me So it's like all this advice pours in and just little pieces stick here and there and here and there And i'm only capable of doing what i'm capable of doing so that it's ultimately gonna solve itself Honestly, my first thought when I heard was his youtube channel is actually pretty big. He can actually probably do this Yep, I was actually pretty excited at the same time So when we went indie we were three people I had to support three people and we had around 250,000 subscribers and we were doing around 160 280 000 views a day so you have to support one person on a subscriber number that's I don't know. Whatever two-thirds math's not my strong point and view numbers that are in the sort of third-ish And maybe a little bit less range you can do it for sure Yeah Yeah And i'm trying to go in a unique direction with my channel like you guys know it's been all over the map I mean you can find videos on how to put brakes on your car on my channel I mean they're there if you look for them, but realistically i'm gonna stick with the 3d printing stuff I'm gonna get heavily into development though And that's a territory I haven't done before because I want to keep my development skills sharp I've been programming for 15 years and now I don't have a job to go and program every day So i'm gonna be working on games with opulent studios But i'm also planning on doing a series of videos where I actually show people how to program i'm going to start with a simple high level language like c sharp and show them how to write some cool little tools and utilities and I think that that'll be kind of fun because I'm not going to go the conventional route of oh here's a tutorial watch me type in some stuff I'm actually going to make it kind of funny and really screw around a whole bunch and try to try to captivate people and keep their attention And the other thing is I the reason a lot of people think that I over ham it up in my videos I get this they're like man you're trying to be funny The thing you got to realize I am the slowest editor on earth And the only way I can make it through three hours of editing is if i'm laughing at myself So I intentionally ham it up so that when i'm editing the video I'm sitting here at certain parts pissing myself going I really shouldn't leave that in there But i'm going to because it made me laugh or i'll cut it out entirely even though it made me laugh But it keeps me entertained and that's what gets me through it when I did the boring Like unboxings just open it like hey guys here's what this is kind of cool and everything I had a really hard time editing that stuff It wasn't until I started just kind of playing around a little bit that I I had fun with it And then then then you kind of see that come out in the video. You're like, oh you actually had fun making this If you make fun entertaining programming videos that would actually be pretty cool I know if you've ever seen a fun programming video There's never the best one I could find was ah the new boston or something and he's like Every once in a blue moon. There's like a slightly edgy comment that might make you chuckle. That's like the The most entertaining programming videos i've pretty much ever found So if you could find something that actually makes me laugh and teaches me how to program that would be really cool Okay, so so envision this what if I did a video where it was like bob ross, you know with like the Push and here's the little tree. I'm gonna be like here's the little variable and then I just keep going back I'm like here's this variable game. We're gonna put a little symbol next to him. See makes him look cool We're learning it's a happy accident. Oh my god. Yeah, no, but i'm gonna try i'm gonna try things out I'm gonna take risks Like I said, I had time if I didn't have time and just to clarify a lot of people think i'm Taking a huge risk here from my family because my son needs a lot of therapy I'm not gonna let my resources get exhausted. I will go back to an it job long before i'm in trouble I'm not gonna push this to the last minute and go. Oh crap. I screwed up. Let's go live under a bridge ain't gonna happen Yeah All right. So speaking of screwing up and living under a bridge If you steal in-game items one british mp This was posted by jauners on the forum one british mp thinks that you should go to jail Or p-find or community service or whatever real world consequences exist for real world crimes He wants to see that happen to people who uh who steal things digitally and we're not talking steal digitally like What we're always hearing about stealing movies stealing music stealing windows Which you don't have to care about anymore Um No, actually I care about it more than ever we're talking stealing swords Like like in-game items and stuff like that and not like oh he ninja looted it He picked it up off the ground before I could or he like need rolled it when he didn't actually need it or You got to realize swords and games to some of these guys are like real items. Yeah Yes They are like I I know I know I have a friend who plays world of warcraft and seriously The the way I see him scream in pain when something bad happens in that game It's like you might as well be like stealing his real stuff and like breaking his house and beating him with it You know and the thing about it is and this is this is something like for me personally in-game items are not something I've spent a ton of money on over the years. This is a fairly interesting thing I'm gonna interject before you keep going you can buy a caram bit in real life for cheaper than you can buy a caram bit in counter-strike Wow, that's screwed up Okay, so Originally Jonner's post on the forum was kind of mocking this as if you know, ha ha ha it's not real stuff and as someone who Who doesn't spend a lot of money on in-game or digital items? I kind of my initial knee-jerk reaction was What really go to jail for you know, like like get charged with grand theft for stealing five thousand dollars worth of you know boots in Diablo or whatever the case may be and then I kind of stopped and thought about it for a second because is Is a digital currency and we could just let's just call in game items Let's call team fortress two hats a digital currency Are they not anything that can be converted to and from another currency and can be traded for goods and services between people is kind of a currency so Is stealing digital currency that someone worked for and if that work was farming gold or if that work was You know sitting at their desk trading stocks Is that any different is that currency any different from from money and I kind of started thinking about it going well shit $5,000 of in-game boots is still five thousand dollars and that's still got stolen I think this is a huge step in the right direction. So sorry. I'm all done with my thoughts yours No, I agree. I agree I think you know I think people take that stuff very very seriously and it's one thing to get your items stolen in game if you Put yourself in harm's way, but to have hacking involved to take it I mean, I really don't look at it any different than hacking a bank account and taking money out I mean, you're definitely taking away something somebody worked for yeah And we're not talking like you board their ship and you gank it right? We're talking like board their one zero one one port and send some an uu b packet like knock it over and steal all their crap Yeah, it's bad I meant yoink. I said gank. I don't know how that slipped out Yeah, oh see whatever like I was I was going for the simpsons thing I know it kind of works But not fully what I meant to say was yoink and I have no idea how that we all kind of let it slide You're not that much of a gamer anyways, so we were like Wow, wow, wow, you know, what's funny is I can't I can't beat the last level of bio shock infinite But you can't beat it on a shield. No, I tried it on my computer last night I'm only a quarter of the way through I really need to finish this I'm only a quarter of the way through I really need to finish that now that I actually like have time And you know what? I'm more of a gamer these days than you give me credit for I actually game a fair bit on nvidia shield I play bow shock infinite. That's the most recent game that i've played in a long time I'm more of a gamer these days than you give me credit for I play bow shock infinite That's the most recent game I've played. I started limbo for like five minutes. You started limbo I'm almost done super meat boy I Don't know that that really matters to be completely honest. I hate you Anyway, the point is do you have anything to add to the in-game items thing or no? I think it's awesome. I've seen a whole bunch of stuff like this happen I know people that have had their accounts hacked. I've had my account hacked I've had my account hacked and all my games stolen from from origin night It was a nightmare to get it all back took me like a week at one point in time my character in wow was worth a lot of money and my wow account got hacked like Like many times despite doing many precautions. Yeah, it's really something to matter All right. So let's move on to the next thing. Um valve had this controller idea that was like Revolutionary and groundbreaking we were gonna have touch pads Oh, I thought we were all gonna do it now barnacles was doing it and then Are we are we going for this? So what are we doing? I'm confused. What kind of show is this? The point is valve had this innovative controller idea with touch pads and I kind of looked at it and I went Okay, that's cool in theory. Let's see how this pans out And I swear every single revision to the steam controller makes it closer and closer and closer to this Which is the shield controller and i'm not saying that valve was copying something that didn't exist yet I'm saying that the shield controller is not really inherently any different from an xbox 360 controller and so the closer it gets the um The less innovative it is and I just have to wonder if there's any point in them even continuing to develop this thing If it's just eventually gonna get rid of the touch pads even yeah, so so the latest iteration here Sorry, i'm making barnacles go away for a bit here. Sorry. Sorry. We've got a couple shoulder buttons We have a touch pad There's those back buttons and then everything's the same they change one of the directional pads with the joystick Yes, so we've got a joystick and abxy now Which originally was not the case. Um, I personally am starting to kind of like it But i'm not a huge fan of both Analog sticks being but like uh on the bottom I'd prefer to have a d-pad here and an analog stick up here. Uh, your thoughts with how I hold it I like having my careful where you go with this sentence I like having my analog stick On the top of the left side Because I kind of like push it into my left hand which makes my left hand go up a little bit It's just because i've used an xbox 360 controller for so long. Yeah, so I like it being up there So this is still gonna bug me unless I just use that touch pad all the time, right then Uh, why would I use this controller? Jerry touch pads touch pads on game controllers. Um, honestly, I thought it was really cool and they first did it And then I was like nah, this isn't gonna work because there's just you don't have that precision You don't you get you just get used to using the thumb stick after so long and when you pick up a controller It's just having something you have to constantly keep picking your finger up and moving it back and dragging around and stuff with driving Absolutely crazy. Well, they demoed playing portal But then if you watch that demo they weren't there was there they weren't doing anything particularly complicated The only I maintain that the only games that really makes a ton of sense for is stuff like sieve And if it was gonna be turn-based kind of slow Yeah, where you can kind of sweep around and there's probably more things on screen If and if you're gonna play sieve anyway, wouldn't you just get like a tv dinner stand and like a ducky a ducky mini much better? Yeah, and a mouse that would be much better I guess it really depends how the games are developed But honestly games are going to be developed either for a keyboard mouse experience or for a controller experience I mean until they start specifically making game profiles that like suit thumb touch pads It's gonna feel awkward and my thing is that they the original design catered to they're adding something to the market so hopefully more games could be played in this situation and Now they're moving away from that to the point where before I was like Okay, maybe I can have this controller for those couple games where it makes a ton of sense And now i'm like, no, i'll just probably stick to a 360 style controller and be fine Yeah, I think what it comes down to is just what people are used to I mean you've been using the 360 controller in that style of controller for so long that it's gonna be really hard to change over It's just like keyboards, right? We all we all use, you know, the standard standard layout We don't use devorak, you know Some people do but it's like who wants to memorize a whole new format just to be a little bit faster I switched to devorak actually and I loved it But it was a serious issue every single time I'd use someone else's computer I bet And that's what ended up making me drop it actually because when I switched I wasn't working I was just going to school and then when I started working again I was in an it shop So people's computers would come in and I had to work on tons of different people's computers all the time And it just drove me nuts. I couldn't memorize both different layouts. Yeah, that's the problem with deviating from standards is you're on your own, right? I mean once you do that, you're carrying your own keyboard everywhere Yeah, if I only ever used my own keyboards, it would be fun. We had an intern once who brought his own keyboard to work every day That's a hardcore intern and he had a plastic cover for it that kept it dust-proofed and everything. It was fantastic It was badass. He didn't care about the mouse. Nope Well every computer I had at work was a mechanical keyboard I bought mechanical keyboards for my for my two offices and my two workstations Because I just couldn't stand those little membrane keyboards anymore. I have my own mechanical keyboards on all my stations now Which is bizarre because we have so many mechanical keyboards here. Don't let me use any of them. Well, then you'll ruin them You'll get them all out of your place. It's a really good investment for the workplace because you can tell if people are working with mechanical keyboards because you just kind of listen it's like That's a good point All right Everything else for Jill Caps Speaking of not being sure if anyone's working um the hard drive industry So we first got four terabyte hard drives back in late 2011 and if you guys remember leading up to that we were getting new hard drive capacities like what every six months We went from 320 to 640 to to 500 750s and one terabytes and then we got one and a half Terabytes two terabytes three terabytes four terabytes and then nothing. I still remember being at pax having to explain to everybody Well, don't forget the six don't forget the six that wasn't sam. I think samsung made a six or was it seagate or samsung? I can't remember. Itachi had a big one. I think yeah. Yeah, can't remember someone did Um, but the point is we're finally seeing a big move all of a sudden wd just released a red Six terabyte and then they went ahead and validated it for up to eight of them in a single enclosure So we're talking 48 terabytes in a single eight bay enclosure, which is freaking unreal And seagate is apparently sampling eight and ten terabyte hard drives. So the original article is from dsl.sk This is not like to end users or anything, but let's just have a brief discussion What would you do with 10 terabyte hard drives? I just back up the internet. I just back the whole thing up and then cancel my internet subscription save some money that's what I guess you need to now because I can see a lot of people buying two drives and raid wanting them instead of a huge set And raid wanting the huge. That's exactly what I'd do. You could streamline them You don't need massive hard drive arrays as hardcore You don't you won't need like this full tower just because you want a lot of hard drives Yeah, well my NAS setup is three external drive arrays that each hold four drives So I could have a total of 12 of those 10 10 terabyte. That'd be awesome. That'd be absolutely awesome I I you know, what's funny is I used to like I used to just kind of crave more storage And I was always trying to add more storage like I got windows home server v1 Um a project which I was super sad got just completely Destroyed you and me both you and me both I still run 2011 and i'm pissed off that they took out all the drive pool capability Yeah So drive pool was super cool and I would just I would just add drives and add drives and add drives And then I moved to 2011 and I finally went with a proper raid because that's what you have to do now And um, I built like a big fat raid and then I expanded it and that ended up being the server that now lives at our office And we use for that and when I when I had to move something back to my house because I now had no nas What I realized was my personal data was only taking up about three and a half terabytes on it I don't even know what people can and that's mine my wife's like we only have ssds in our computers. So That's all the mass storage for everyone in my house. I can't figure out what people are putting on their nases I have a lot more than that. Just yeah for me It's it's the raw image stuff like when I do photography and my family and stuff like a single raw image I have can be 65 megabytes for just like one raw image I back up. Um a lot of the work i've done here on my own nas I back up like all my school stuff i've ever done all images game. I keep game installation files for old games Where you'd like need the cd now if it's not on steam essentially those aren't that big We're talking 650 meg files. We're talking 10 barnacles photos I have a lot And like i'll be honest i've never come close to filling up my storage I mean I still have 30 free and i'm already ready to go buy the next generation of drives It's funny you guys are talking about this because I was going to go buy a whole bunch of the six terabyte reds To replace my existing one and two terabyte drives that are in there So what i'm planning to use the new high capacity drives for is i'm gonna because right now we have way too many drives We have a 21 terabyte array that's made up of three terabyte drives. That's in raid six So there's two for redundancy there and then we have a couple hot spares just in case Um redundancy is a big deal everybody's easy. I'm not saying redundancy is a big deal I learned a bad lesson when I first set up my first windows home server Is uh, yeah I wasn't replicating the data across any of the drives and and I lost some stuff that i'll never get back and that's that That's freaking horrible. So now everything in my house I just consider half the storage is what I get because everything's redundant one way or another Yeah, so i'll be using the new drives to build an off-site so that we can be doing a nightly sync to somewhere That's not here. I was doing that for some essential stuff before with my home one, but it just doesn't have enough space on it It's uh, it's like kind of an older Not very many port raid card and I only have one terabyte drives for it we don't actually have a ton of extra drives around here because If you use them all yeah, we don't do we don't do a ton of hard drive reviews No one's released anything in the last however many years. So what are we going to review? So we're not going to get review samples or anything and then like Every time that there is a new hard drive. It's like yay Put it in the server. It's bigger a little bit Yeah, so there's not much to say but yeah, I guess all I would do with them If I had two 10 terabyte drives, I would just go straight raid one Two drives raid one done because I mean, yeah I don't need amazing write speeds for a network attached storage and then raid one You do get a slight read speed benefit from it. So great. Yeah Like that that single or double drive raid ones will be pretty sweet actually Speaking of single or double drives. We have two sponsors for the show today So sponsor number one is intel's presence at uh, hold on I have my uh, I have my whole thing up here for it. 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Education, learning a book People are requesting that you teach c++ or c instead of c sharp No, god, okay one one thing you can't make c and c++ funny Are we about to get a rant? I would love to hear it Let's hear a programming rant about why one programming language is much funnier than the others, please Okay, so c and c++ require you to do all your own memory management and pointer precision logic and all that It takes forever to get anywhere. I will personally watch if you do c and c++ All right, screwed i'm doing a c and c++ I'm gonna be like, all right guys, we're gonna do hello world and it'll be a four hour long Dammit I like c sharp because it's like in a hundred lines of code You can like, you know, you can make something cool and c and c++ 100 lines of code Yeah, you can do hello world and like properly return something um It's not that bad But but still I just I prefer language to higher level languages with rapid development and stuff creating applications stuff like that If i'm not creating drivers, i'm not going to be using native code So, yeah, that's how it's gonna be fine. Yeah Yeah Whatever. I'm not doing java. Okay, i'm not I'm okay with that. No actually I'll take that back if I go work for google, I will do java Just not right now Oh now we got everybody over here doing like doing c++ nice. See how hello world. All right. Fine. Fine. God These people Oh twitch chat, okay how I love them Um, i'm in the steam music beta thing with wow good for you. You get a prize I don't have to give such a breaker. Everything is about you And you're always so down on our guests being all insulting to this. No, I have not once insulted barnacles No, linus just keeps making me hungry. He said smorgasbord and I was like, hmm. Yeah Hey, I wanted I wanted to ask you guys about something earlier you were talking about the water cooling stuff And that you're gonna do the whole room water cooling Uh, I was thinking you guys should put a kiddie pool outside of the reservoir with a curtain on it and a shower And literally just before the rads put the shower so you can just go out there and have a nice, you know heated shower All the time and then it would pick it up running through the rads pull the heat and then loop it back through that would be awesome That would make the funniest Clean and decontaminate that loop. Yeah. Can you imagine having like ball sack gunk in your water block? No, no, it's okay. Just put a filter just put a filter in there on your loop You said you have an industrial pump. So just put yourself like one of those microbial filters on it. You'll be fine You know how those like junk face commercial thing junk loop Just don't use clear clear tubing. You don't want to see little floaties flying through there Oh, it's like yeah, my uh, my gpus overheating. There's a pub in it You said it you said it I day I I showed restraint there Oh my god, that'd be so funny. You'd like take your water block apart There's like a cat ball here Oh my god No, actually loop contamination was one of the big things I was worried about with that project because um, I actually I found other projects where people had Gotten the the notion and it's a mistaken notion But had gotten the notion that having a very large reservoir will make your loop run cooler What it does is it makes your loop take longer to reach equilibrium? But your temps will not be appreciably lower unless your reservoir is also a heat dissipation device Especially when we're running so many systems Yeah, so if you had aluminum fins on it or something like that where it was actually cooling the water in it Then that does something otherwise you're just creating a much longer delay while the water heats up So I found a couple projects where people were using things like five gallon pails For their liquid cooling reservoirs and one of those guys I mean again, we're talking people who think that the reservoir will cool the loop so they're not doing their research Like I'm not saying that's a stupid assumption I I thought that at one point until I did my research and found out it doesn't work that way But we're talking people who didn't do a lot of research But anyway, one of these guys said he had enough gunk growing in his loop within two weeks That is that his pump was not able to move any water through a CPU block Just to clarify for anyone who wants to do a mineral oil build you still need a fair amount of volume in your tank Yeah, um don't just be like oh, I don't need that much. It's okay. Yeah Speaking of mineral oil cooled machines our mineral oil kit from Puget Systems has shipped and our I think it's here 12 gallon oh it arrived? I think so Oh well our 12 gallon thing of mineral oil has also shipped Oh, I don't think that arrived No, that's not here. I shipped it to the US and then transferring it up So we are going to be doing for better or for worse An MATX mineral oil cooled machine Wish us so much luck Are you guys just going to fully submerge the whole thing? I'm sorry? Are you going to fully submerge everything? Except for the hard drive? The hard drive you can't though right? There's no hard drive positioning in this tank configuration anyways Because the store I used to work at like 15 years ago they literally had a fish aquarium they just filled with mineral oil And everything's just dumped in there like they didn't even do it nicely They just dumped the motherboard dumped the power supply all the fans spin it like one rpm And it just works it's crazy That's fantastic Yeah, yeah Especially with their kits it's like honestly a lot easier than you'd think Because you just build it on the plate they have and then slide it in and then pour oil in and you're done How do you even clean that though? Like if you ever wanted to take that out and upgrade it I mean you just call the loss as soon as you dip it in there You're on Basically it's going to take you forever to dry out the component If it's something like a graphics card that has a sticker on it Which is less common these days but was very common back when I did it That sticker will come off anything that's rubber will probably deteriorate die and particle away But most things will work Some things that you have to pay attention to is stuff like thermal paste could be kind of grabbed away from it So if you take it out of the oil you have to make sure that you re-thermal paste pretty much everything Wow And you're probably going to have to drip dry your stuff for a long time Unless you feel like sacrificing bottles and bottles of some type of non-conductive solution that you can clean all the oil off with Like isopropyl alcohol or something like that But you have to be careful with those too because some of the ones that I've seen people suggest are really aggressive And can like eat away at metals and stuff which is not good for your components So be careful about what you're going to wash it with The way I did it was I just dripped dry everything And everything worked except for my graphics card because I forgot to redo the thermal paste and tested it and then it died But everything else worked So basically I have a sacrificial graphics card that we're going to use I have an old 5870 iFINITY 6 edition that has a Spitfire cooler on it So it's got a nice big cooler so we could probably actually do it with no fan on anything like just oil flow Good because it pushes the oil I know but it's a very very large cooler and it extends away from the graphics card itself Yeah I think I remember that cooler Yeah it might be okay I mean we'll try it and see how it goes and then we'll go from there But yeah it should be pretty cool hey Yeah And we have an entire box of like tower heat sinks Yeah and those are going to be the best for that situation anyway Unless I've seen some people started screwing around with putting like AIO liquid coolers And just hanging the radiator outside of the thing So you have an individual cooler for the CPU and then you cool everything else with oil Don't ask The coolest one that I've seen was somebody took a foam box and they filled it with mineral oil And then they took the condenser out of one of those little windows AC units and just set it on the top And had a pump just circulating the liquid over the top of the condenser And it was just keeping it like almost freezing That's fantastic And it would be easy to find a window air conditioner that you could just cannibalize for something like that I'll be back in a moment do you want to do the steam music topic? Sure Make sure you screen share with them and stuff Yeah Let's just switch laptops for a second Windows P We'll switch our identical looking laptops Hooray Oh Oh There you go Alright so the steam music interface beta isn't like that much of a looker And there isn't a ton of support for different formats So they haven't actually added any support from when it was just in steam big picture So as of right now it supports stuff like MP3 And that's it And they have a quote on their website that says Unless you're a big fan of the play button you may not find your favorite music feature exists here yet So there isn't a ton of features but what is actually really cool I'm excited for you to show this Is the fact that you can play it and mess around with it in the steam overlay So for me I don't know if this is the default buttons but for me it's just shift tab And it brings up the steam overlay and I can change what music I have and what music I'm playing and all that kind of stuff Which is kind of great it looks very simple So I'm going to bring it up here in one second Windows P Oh geez Extend or duplicate Wow you field stripped that quick So this is essentially what it looks like So if you're in your library window in your drop down instead of selecting games You just select music and then it just has a list of all your music And then this player right here this one individual pop up is essentially the player that you get Extremely simple there's no way as of right now as far as I can tell to add all of your music to a cue It only works with mp3s there's almost no features It has shuffle It has shuffle So basically it has all the features of an iPod shuffle mp3 or go home man Doesn't iPod shuffle have shuffle all? I don't know I never had one because they were dumb I didn't have one Okay But yeah so it's not a ton of features but the whole idea of it right now is that they're trying to get feature suggestions from the community So send them suggestions and they'll try and figure it out Alright so you mean like this one? Yeah Ah it's heavy Alright so there's my compressor over there Why do you just have this laying around? I'm sorry? Why do you just have this laying around? Well I used this for my old chilled liquid system with I had an E6600 That I think I had at 4 GHz 24x7 stable I think that was the frequency I had it running at And I actually had this mounted to a cooler like an icebox cooler I had this mounted to that on a thing underneath my case so that it could be mounted all the time I had the whole thing insulated so my CPU load temps were in the sub-teen degrees Full load That's awesome it looks like you even custom mounted some 120mm fans on there too to replace the big huge one If by custom mounting you mean zip ties and all the Silverstone 120mm that I salvaged from customer builds Then yes so basically I used to build all of the super high end liquid cooled systems at NCIX And those systems were all in Silverstone TJ07 So that case came with a couple of 120mm fans in the basement But most of the time I would end up ripping those out and replacing them with some other high end fan Because these were customers buying $3000, $4000, $5000, $7000 machines And most of them didn't care So I was like when people would pick up the systems a lot of them were local orders I'd be like yo can I hold on to these fans? So over the years I have lost more of this model of fan than probably most people have ever owned of any fan Wow, that's pretty insane You have to repurpose that for the Miner Oil build, you have to I bet I could repurpose it for the whole room No we probably shouldn't do that If the idea is to try to not kick heat I mean we could mount it to the roof You could mount it to the roof The only problem is if you mounted it outside you wouldn't have that cool air return So I don't know how efficient the condenser would be Because the whole window unit is you have all the heat exhausting outside And then it's circulating the cool air inside over the condenser I just don't know how much heat you'd be able to get rid of If you just keep recycling that heated air you'd have to duck the hell out of it But inside it would work great for that Miner Oil build, that would just be cool Do it I don't know if it's worth it going with the smallest Miner Oil case because we wanted to MADX it And this giant fan And this has leaves on it and stuff If we win with the EADX version Just hit it with some pryle on it, it'll be fine dude Alright I'm going to go put this thing away because it's extremely heavy What else we got? I can jump to the Microsoft topic just to make it super awkward Yay So your favorite person in the world has decided that he's going to be merging all separate versions of the Miner Oil And then bringing all separate versions of Windows into one Yes So essentially they're bringing the Windows desktop, Windows phone and Xbox teams all together into one little group And that one team will be streamlining the next version of Windows from all these three operating systems into one operating system Yeah, it's what it sounds like And to be honest, if they do it right, I think that's the right direction to go Because I think it's just too hard to maintain three completely different operating systems So it makes sense But as far as, yeah, the layoffs don't make sense Because you still need all that intellectual property I don't get it Yeah, I don't really understand Well the issue I have with this idea is that we're assuming that Microsoft, the company that brought us the Metro UI When they were only trying to converge two screens It's going to be able to converge all of these together It's going to be able to do what Apple decided was impossible when they developed a completely new operating system called iOS Good luck This is why I say if, if they do it right, I agree, if Because no offense to Microsoft But Apple knows UI a lot better than they do Or has demonstrated over the years that they've been more progressively minded in terms of UI than Microsoft One thing that I'm hoping is going to happen is that it's not a UI convergence necessarily Okay, so it's a different, it's a different skin over top of the same backbone No, because they're, if you go to the basically exact same announcement that they made in April Which is where they're doing universal apps If they just stick with the universal apps thing Have everyone working together so that the UIs feel the same Like so that the idea is the same so that different menus will give you the same options and stuff like that But they aren't exactly the same I think that would be good Okay, so here's the problem I'm going to show you, I'm going to show you What, that's Microsoft? I'm going to show you what the problem is Okay, so problem, here, hold on, we got a screen share with me, we got a screen share with me The problem is that if you have something that's sharing features or sharing resources between a couple of different Iterations of the same thing, then you end up with this So hold on What are you going to wreck now? Hold on, how do I even open the Metro UI on this? There we go Alright, so I'm going to go ahead Hit the magical Windows key No, no, it's disabled It's disabled on this one So if I can even get, there we go, stupid thing will even open So I want to say for example, no, no, no, no, right, right, right, right, right I remember what I was trying to do Okay We'll get there eventually everyone We'll get there eventually So users, okay So I want to, I want to edit user accounts or something What, what, what, why can't I do it? Wait, what, why can't I change my password? Why can't I do it? What are you talking about? That's the most intuitive UI ever Just look at that majestic thing right there What, I'm in here now? What? Hold on a second What, what, what, what, why am I here? Learn to Windows, dude, learn to Windows I know, right? And then, and then, and then, hold on, hold on, hold on No, it gets better, it gets better So I go into here and I'm like, oh yeah, well, hey, I want to, you know, resolution I want to change my resolution or something So, okay Hey, it's intentionally obfuscated so only power users can figure it out Dang it, you know what? The stupid thing here is I actually, I had an example that I remembered Where within Metro UI it dumps you back to the desktop Can't remember what it was anymore There's actually a couple different places, yeah There's a couple different places it does it, I couldn't remember if resolution was one of them But the point is that I think when you give people this, you know, oh, well, this one's optimal for tablets Or this one's optimal for desktop or for a 10 foot or whatever else I think you leave a lot of room for corners to get cut Well, we don't want to redo the UI for changing your user password So we're just going to dump you in this other interface that you Obviously, if you wanted to use it, you would have been using it already Yeah, and then there's places where there's duplication, right? I mean, there's a lot of places where the same exact features are exposed through the desktop or through the modern shell And that gets a little confusing too I'm okay with that personally Yeah, I'd rather have a duplicated feature than missing functionality in one Yeah Because that infuriates me when I'm looking for something Going to user accounts in the desktop version and being able to change your password And then going to user accounts in Metro, whatever the heck, and being able to change your password I think that's fine No, no, I agree And what I do when I install Windows 8, the very first thing I do is I go change all the file associations So they all go to desktop applications Oh my goodness, that is so annoying Whenever I fire up a new... I don't know what it is But whenever I fire up a new Windows 8 machine, I'm always in a hurry So in the case of this... because if I wasn't in a hurry, I'd install Windows 7 on it Shut up, dude, come on So in the case of this machine, I was in a hurry because We were supposed to do our first sponsorship spot Where we were using these computers on the WAN show And I needed to get my machine set up I needed to get all my logins done so I could screen share and my Twitter and my... Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah All that stuff And what happened was... I was like... I was hurrying through it And I went and I opened some photo I think it was like the lower third for the show And I spazzed, like lost it Because it opens in this stupid application That has no functionality, takes forever to launch In spite of the fact that I'm running on an SSD It's like, maybe... you're a smart guy, you're a programmer Maybe you can explain this to me Why the hell could any application that's... let's say the photo viewer Let's say it's super bloated because it doesn't do anything So let's say it's super bloated and it's like a 30 meg program, okay? Why could a 30 meg program ever take multiple seconds to open On something that can read at 550 megabytes per second With a processor that's not even being taxed? The short answer to that is dependencies on other services Why? What is it even doing with the other services? It doesn't do anything! No, no, it does, it does This is the thing people don't realize is that most of the modern applications that you're using Are based on HTML5 that's rendered through MSHTML Which is the IE's rendering engine Which also has dependencies from the rest of the system So a lot of that slowness that you're experiencing everything is all those subsystems coming online and into alignment So that it can render your experience That's stupid That's terrible But the whole point is, is it makes it easier for developers to make an app Because they literally can make an app that compiles at runtime Rather than having to actually know how to code Really, Tom? I should probably rephrase that because that is a form of coding I don't want all the HTML5 docs to come after me But that's the simple answer Whenever you have something that sits on top of a bunch of subsystems All those subsystems take a memory People used to laugh Do you guys remember, this goes way back But you remember that competition that was held in, actually I think it was held in Canada, Assembly? Do you remember that when they used to have the competition Where who could make the coolest program in 5 kilobytes? And so back then they did everything in Assembly Every single instruction to the processor was raw They would try to make these things insanely small Well, now we do the opposite of that now What we do is we build a layer on top of a layer On top of a layer, on top of another layer That's like a cousin of another layer And then another layer on top of that So that you only have to write 5 lines of code But at the end of the day you're running 200 million lines of code Half of which you don't need And that's the unfortunate part with higher level languages The thing I wish had happened then And this is going to seem like an odd thing to wish for Is if we're going to do that anyway Then I wish Microsoft had had the stones to just stick with what they did with Vista And say, look, you want to have a great experience with this operating system? Get more RAM Get a better CPU They couldn't though They couldn't I know they couldn't But I wish they had Oh, you and me both But they had That's the thing is whenever you create a product that's designed for a whole array of devices You have to develop for the lowest common denominator Which unfortunately is like a Casio watch with Windows 8 I mean, it's kind of like It runs on this for crying out loud What is it? This is a Surface RT This thing's got like less RAM than like a flip phone And it runs on here So that's the problem They tried to make it super small And that's the thing is I mean if Windows 8 If Windows 8 was designed to just when it boots up Let's say I was willing to sacrifice a little bit of boot up time Because frankly who cares? Who shuts down their computers? SSDs too You can boot so freaking fast Sleep, man So No, and they do have They have a look ahead caching and stuff like that Like the system is supposed to learn your tendencies Which apps you open and use most often And then it's supposed to load those ahead of time Like pre-cache them into memory I think an operating system should probably assume that at some point the user is probably A consumer grade operating system That user is probably going to open a photo Yes I agree So why not just have it ready for me? I guess that's the question And obviously it's not your problem anymore But Nope That's my frustration as the end user who kind of looks at this thing and goes This is an app that has no functionality It's bloated beyond all reason And it just makes my life worse It does nothing to make my life better The thing that makes me really upset is a lot of people Like you're telling me about your bad Windows 8 experience And your bad Windows 8 experience so far has involved the modern UI Right And everybody talks about the modern shell The modern experience And the start screen if you will And it's like those two things define the operating system from the customer's perspective But it's like if you look at everything else If you look at the memory manager, the kernel, the howl All the stuff that was redesigned for Windows 8 It is so much faster and so much more streamlined than Windows 7 ever was Which is why Windows 9 will be good It happens every time Yeah, but that's the thing that really sucks is it's like all you do is you install Windows 8 Change your file type associations Throw a classic start menu on it and the thing will run circles around Windows 7 It just does I guess But every once in a while you'll run into something and it's incredibly frustrating And the problem is that it just doesn't matter to me Because I've always been one of those guys Like I loved Windows Vista I thought Windows Vista was such a huge improvement Going back to Windows XP felt like going back to the Stone Age Once I'd been using Vista for six months, nine months When everyone else was still shunning it Because I was running four or eight gigs of memory at the time And I was running a very fast dual core I think I either had an E6600 or a Q6600 or something like that Which was at the time the Q66 was like a $700 processor Oh yeah Obviously no one was running that stuff But for me I was like, yeah, this is great So I've always been one of those people who's just thrown more hardware at the problem So I mean even with something like Windows 7 Let's say you have some inefficiency or something I mean I've got an 8 SSD raid 0 array What do I care? Something's like 20% slower I'll never see it So you go and put inconveniences in front of me Like not being able to alter a user account unless I go into the modern UI Well, screw you then I'm not going to use it And I think that's where a lot of people get stuck And are there great things about Windows 8? Yes, absolutely It's just I'm not going to tear my hair out every time I need to do some basic thing And relearn it over that Yeah No, no, I completely understand I mean there are situations where even I would run Windows 7 in place of Windows 8 I mean they're pretty rare situations But to each their own I guess Like you said with Vista, right? Vista was if you only had a gigabyte of memory you were screwed Oh, it was terrible You were absolutely screwed Remember that horrendous ReadyBoost solution they came up with? Yep That was awful Yeah, let's plug in a USB thumb drive and make it look ahead cash It'll be awesome Stupid But for the record it actually did work decent As long as you spent a million billion dollars on your USB stick I know it worked but yeah that's exactly it The USB drives were more expensive than just buying RAM And they had to be really fast ones too That was the thing is I remember if you plugged in one that wasn't certified And you're like screw it do it anyways it would actually slow you down Good times I know people that did it for laptops though It was mostly for laptops, it really was And honestly a cool feature in Windows 8 is Windows to go You can actually install it to a USB 3 thumb drive And boot the entire operating system and run it right off the USB drive And I think that's actually a cool feature to have Yeah it's a really cool feature It's too bad that all of the instructions for how to do it are so obtuse I know As if they don't want anyone to do it Well they don't they don't want you to go into the library They don't want you going into the library and like booting their computer off your thumb drive And like hacking the Pentagon so it's yeah The kinds of people who are going to be hacking the Pentagon Are going to be able to make their way through the instructions You might as well just make it easier We wanted to do a video on it I know It gives me something to make YouTube videos for the next year apparently Because like I got all kinds of things that I can tell people about they don't know So that'll be fun Yeah that was really infuriating Because I found out about that feature I thought it was amazing And I was like wow Or booting VHDs that's another thing they don't really advertise But you can in Windows 8 you can actually boot a virtual You can boot a VHD virtual disk And the benefits of that is now you can put that virtual disk on anything Not even just a USB thumb drive You can literally just transport it anywhere Oh Well we'll see We'll see how Microsoft does without me Waiting for Windows 9 Don't you mean Windows Barclays edition With tears on the box I would definitely get that I would buy that Somebody please Photoshop that if you're watching this I want to see a Windows Barclays edition box If you ever did like a Patreon Or like a Kickstarter Like Jay's Kickstarter to fund him to CES or whatever else If you ever reward tears I would definitely buy that If you have a reward tear That is a copy of Windows A reward tear You get a tear Ouch If you have a reward tear that is a copy of Windows With a picture of you crying on the box I'll buy it I promise Deal it'll happen if I ever do anything there will be that level Okay It better not be so expensive that I can't afford it No no I know you've only got Lambo money You don't have that Bugatti money yet Exactly Alright so speaking of Employees and not performing Very well These ones didn't get Sacked No no no these are the ones not performing very well These guys didn't get sacked But what they did do was Voluntarily give back A part of a bonus So Samsung employees reportedly gave back 2.9 million In bonuses To apologize for poor performance This was posted by DTrickW on the forum And this is apparently Fairly Common practice In South Korean Companies especially Publicly traded ones So to be clear This was across a mere 200 Managers in the mobile division So I ran the numbers I kind of went Okay so they gave back about A quarter of the bonuses each If we average out the whole thing And there are fewer than 200 of them So of their total $60,000 Bonus they gave back about $15,000 So they still took a $45,000 Bonus on top of whatever salaries they're making So they're still like super involved That's pretty damn significant To apologize for poor performance In a significant drop in market share that has Resulted in Only slightly billions I like how they still think they deserve the $45,000 Though they're like oh we're sorry for our poor performance Here you can have $15,000 Back we still need the rest Yeah so that was a little bit confusing to me It's like it's We're not talking Nintendo Where it's like yeah we are slashing All of the executives pay Voluntarily because We need to do better By massive amounts we're talking a one time bonus We're not talking a decrease in salary And we're talking like A show of good will Good faith like I'm a super baller Here's part of it back Here's a few company meals Well I'm not going to Korea guys Because I'm not giving back my bonuses I'm sorry If I performed poorly and you gave me a bonus Then you suck company You need to reevaluate what you're doing Yeah that's Something I really don't get I don't get bonuses at all around here apparently Because my boss is a jerk But if I did get bonuses He names his company all these stupid names And calls his company after himself Who does he think he is What a megalom A Michael Dell Some other companies have done it If you ever get a bonus give it back They use their last name for one The Michael Dell guy How about Michael's A different Michael but They sell arts and crafts Do I like that company? Hey Linus just for fun You should actually go and talk to your whole Media group team or whatever and be like Guys I'm going to give you a hundred dollar bonus But I think you should give fifty percent of it back Just see what happens I want to see if the whole American or Canadian mentality is the same as The Korean mentality I want to see if everybody just offers up that fifty percent We should spend all that fifty percent on like New company signing We should do that as a channel super fun That would be hilarious I award each person a bonus And then tell them that I really Record it like vlog style Just walk up and be like I would like to record you with This hundred dollar give it to them in like Two fifties or something And be like now how much of that do you want to Give back to the company for your performance See what happens that would be so funny That's terrible I just hope he doesn't get hurt Speaking of terrible and Getting hurt Samsung is taking on Beats with their level Headphones I mean it's the It's a pretty blatant Case of going straight after Someone else's product Are they trying to level them? Well no it's because beats is like a music term And level is like a music Term and anyway The point is now Samsung Also has headphones that are expensive Fashionable And according to the verge And they didn't even put a name on this Article it just says by verge staff So according to the verge for the most part Well because I think a whole bunch of different people tried it on For the most part they sound alright Except the in ears which are apparently just bad So let's take bets on Which company is going to come out with volume That will be the next headphone You have the level, the beats and then volume I mean if someone was honest about it We'd get a bass line The bass line of headphones That's taking it to the whole To a whole new level Wait no we already used that one Damn it My wife has a pair of beats headphones Why why why why hold on I literally they were a $300 pair of headphones And I bought them off my friend that was pissed off at them For like $20 And their active noise cancelling And that's all I like them for You put them on you flip the little button the entire world disappears I don't even plug the jack into anything Okay well you're using them right So I'll give you that I use them for mowing the lawn The best would be if he had like in ears that he wore And then he put those over top Like you see gamers do every once in a while So he's like yeah I listen to music on these They're like nice IE 80s or something And then I use the beats which cost like $20 for noise cancelling That'd be funny you put the in ear monitors on You just put the headphones over the top of them Everything you're like yeah check out my beats guys And you're all listening to something way better underneath Let's do it right I don't know if that makes it better or worse That'd be cool in school yet still popular with headphones I'm sorry That'd be cool in school but still use good headphones Yeah exactly Do you guys remember the headphones that had the bass transducers in them Because they couldn't put good enough speakers in them to actually create bass So they would just shake your head No Oh I have used a gaming headset That has a similar thing The vibrating thing Did you ever try those They suck I remember one of those was like the Ben Heck 5.1s or something From some company And I remember if you cranked them up all the way it would blur your vision Like they shook so hard on your head It would just seriously screw with your vision And make your jaw hurt And I was like why is this a good thing You know that list that you've gotten me to get Of all the different things that I want to try and get us to sample One of the things is a bass enhancing vest Oh that's cool That actually sounds kind of cool It's like a chess piece thing That you wear And it pulses whenever bass goes up That sounds pretty badass actually There's one that electrocutes you and there's one that actually has the audio transducers That just shake I want the one that electrocutes you The little muscle contractors That would be awesome Somebody shoots you in cotton and you go flipping off your desk And actually knock your head and knock yourself out No it's not like a Like a damaged vest for games It literally just goes along with the music Now that would be weird It's like it's supposed to try and simulate The feeling you get when you're in a concert hall Where like it actually shakes you It's supposed to try and replicate that I mean I've got an audio transducer On my seat right now That shakes, I don't have it turned on right now Because I don't want Linus vibrating my ass You guys understand But I do have one and I do like the sensation Of it makes your I don't know it's weird, you can feel the bass So it kind of tricks you And it feels like you're hearing a deeper bass It does, the effect works It's believable, if you put on a crappy pair of headphones It feels like you can hear deeper bass Even though it's just the vibration It's hard to explain but it's weird, it works Alright speaking of a crappy pair of headphones NVIDIA Shield Tablet Doesn't come with headphones at all So the original The original poster on the forum was Sharif and basically All I can say, aside from That I do have one, so I can't say anything About my experiences with it, this isn't a review But all I can say is what NVIDIA has said Publicly, so it's going to have a Tegra K1 Processor, that's That's rather 4, 2.2 GHz ARM Cortex-A15 cores It's got 2 gigs of RAM It's got a Kepler GPU With 192 cores Remember guys, this is the same The same technology scaled Down as what you'll find in a Titan, which NVIDIA Is very fond of telling People, does that make it as powerful as a Titan? No Does it burn your hands if you play any more than 15 minutes? The rocket kit That we have on the main floor Has the same technology but scaled down Of a spaceship So in much the same way as that, but what it does mean Is in terms of API support It is able to do A lot more Than other mobile gaming chips In terms of effects And in terms of taking advantage of work That NVIDIA is already doing on the desktop Like GameWorks, this is stuff that might not be That significant today, because The latest games, let's say Battlefield 4 You're not going to run that on this That's not happening But the fact that NVIDIA is moving Their desktop technology into this form factor Means a generation or two down the road You might be running Battlefield 4 on NVIDIA Shield Tablet 3 Or something like that Because there's no reason that it's not capable Of being ported to it So that's really cool, that's what I like about that It's got an 8 inch 1920x1200 display It's got front facing stereo speakers With dual base reflex ports It's got a mic It's got a 32 gig configuration That's available with LTE Or 16 gig WIFI only They sampled the 16 gig version, so I won't be commenting on LTE performance 5 megapixel camera It's got the new Direct Stylus 2 GPU accelerated stylus That actually seems to work pretty well so far from just dinking around with it And of course it supports Game Stream Which is, you know Gaming on your PC, but on your tablet With now a bigger screen You can stream to Twitch Which is pretty cool, natively So you can just stream playing Android games to Twitch On your tablet You can just use the built in camera Right there, go ahead and stream that baby to Twitch And then I think the big thing here For me, is the Shield controller So it binds using WIFI Direct Which is NVIDIA says Very, very low latency And you play games by putting this On the stand and then playing the game On the controller I like that Good, because I was about to ask you Barnacles, do you have a Shield portable? I do have a Shield I don't have that though Oh wait, nevermind, right here Oh wait, no that's a Nexus 7, nevermind Wait, no, do you have the handheld? No I don't, I didn't even know they had that What? No, seriously I didn't, I have a Shield, I don't have that That's what he's talking about The original Shield No, I have the original Shield Oh, they changed the name to Shield portable now Oh now they're going to call that Shield portable Because tablets are not portable Just calm yourself Okay, so you have a Shield portable So give me your Give me your thoughts Having the controller be a separate Piece from the screen Does this still make sense to you? Oh 100% No, I'd want it to be a separate part Like if I had the option I would Absolutely want it to be a separate part Why? It says I want to use the damn thing as a tablet When I want to use a tablet And I don't want a giant ass controller in the way Every time I try to use Twitter or Facebook with my old Nvidia Shield It's like I'm holding An entire other object I'm not using And it drives me nuts It is weird if you try and use it for anything other than gaming at all Exactly Gaming and movie watching But I think that they should be separate But have a way to be put together I think that separate controllers should have like a dock on it That would be cool It would be a little bit heavy Because that was one of the first Things that I kind of thought about And I was like yeah but would you Okay so you have a Nexus 7, would you want an Nexus 7 Mounted to an Xbox 360 controller really? Well actually yeah because I did At one point like 3D print a thing that held this On a 360 controller and I thought it was the coolest thing ever But then it got out of use Using it anymore so maybe it wasn't the coolest thing ever Well we did Up a ghetto shield as well And we thought it was the coolest thing ever but then I don't think either of us Ever ended up actually sitting and playing a game on it So it's one of those things where it's like You know what a shield is good for though? I found a really cool use for a shield The pair of AR drones, the little quadricopter thing You can fly that with The shield and watch In real time while you're flying it so you can like fly it around corners And stuff it's actually really cool Yeah that's very cool I think That's it Do we have anything else for today? I think we've already run a little late I had one other thing that was in the Square Enix? Nah not really Dell now accepts Bitcoin Square Enix is being butt holes Although they're perfectly within Their rights legally to take down a Fan translation for Final Fantasy Type 0 Still butt holes Yeah it's just one of those things where it's like Yes they're within their rights, yes I totally get it Because they are localizing it for the HD remake But it's one of those things where it's like Square Enix, are you in a position where you need to be making your own games? Square Enix, are you in a position where you need to be making yourself less popular with your fans? Square Enix, are you in a position where you need to be making yourself less popular with your fans? If you play a game dev tycoon There's a point in the game where you get an option And it's, I don't remember exactly what it is But it's like fans are trying to do something with your game or whatever And do you throw lawyers at them Or do you just let them do it And I don't remember what the reward is but if you just let them do it You gain a whole bunch of fans What is with companies like Alienating fans? Like Nintendo seems to be pretty Hardcore about that now with the whole Taking down videos on YouTube and stuff like that Nintendo has, they're starting to work with people They are actually starting to maybe solve that problem But like in In Square Enix's side, like if they Just backed them They wouldn't even have to do it that much Imagine the amount of press that they would have got for supporting a fan remake Imagine the amount of like Fans and support they would have got for doing that Fans and support they would have got for doing that Compared to the other way around Well I think they're just used to having so many fans That will blindly buy the next game That they don't even need it I know I didn't say they were still in that position If anything I would say they are They are not any longer At this point in time In that position Yeah well that was for emphasis But I put it on the wrong syllable Sorry about that Yeah no there's nothing else I really think should be brought up LG is doing good at selling phones and that sucks Because they're evil LG is evil? Well their privacy policy Is like not very enlightened Like have you ever had a look at it? Privacy? What is this? I've never heard of this privacy thing We live in America we don't know what privacy is America America Fair enough I mean the reality of it is It's not like they're the only ones doing it with the TV thing They're just the ones that made headlines But they're doing it in a pretty brutal way I know That doesn't change the fact that you're probably going to get an LG phone The reason why I haven't gotten it yet is because I'm still conflicted Oh yeah what phone should I get now guys? I'm thinking about selling this one Oh my gosh Alright so I think the last thing left then Is Jerry tell everyone where to find you So that they can go support you Being on your own And being independent I'm officially poor people now guys So I need your support And I'm over at the www.BarnNerd Yeah the barn like where the cows are Nerd.com And that's where I'm going to be living The rest of my life probably That's where he's going to make C and C++ videos I'm going to make C sharp And maybe some C and C++ videos And if I'm really going to be masochistic I'll make some batch file Tutorial That would actually be really cool Because I think you guys would love how to make like Little destructive batch files that delete your windows directory And piss you off really really bad I'm just kidding I won't do that I would never do that Alright thanks guys For tuning into the WAN Show Thanks to our guest Barnaclis for joining us And his little friend down there And I think that pretty much does it We'll see you again same bad time same bad channel Next week peace out Peace Peace out