 And okay, we're actually live this time. We got that going. No problem. No big deal. Not a thing. Yeah Oh, there's a thing, but it's a it's an okay thing. So we've got a great show for you guys today I'm here Luke's here and John might be making an appearance really for one specific topic. Oh, do we have another legal topic? Yeah? Oh I see, you know, those are actually some of the most interesting ones for me because you go off on something where he's like I'll have some misconception or whatever and he'll go off and he'll be like well actually That works this way in this specific state or whatever It turns out that I got an education for a reason and you probably should have gone to school and you know No, I disagree with that For your specific use case not for everybody really okay You know, what's funny is I actually had lunch with a local content producer. Yeah Earlier this week like she she does like this kind of vertically integrated content production for business professionals Okay, that's like about stocks and like business tips and stuff like that and apparently their program actually airs Among other things on one of Fox's things like a Fox business thing. Okay, and then also on like Air Canada flights Like a very old media. Yeah, you know like relationships with you know, National Airlines and like yeah network TV and Anyway, so she wanted to have lunch. I had no idea what she wanted. Basically. We did like a studio tour Taryn I was instructed by someone who works with her doing some stuff over at BCIT and The funny thing is Taryn brought me into their studio so that I could see how like a proper company does things and Maybe we should have edit suites and maybe we should have this and maybe we should have that And it turned out that in much the same way as us they learned as they went and there were a lot of things They did better than us and there are a lot of things we do better than them So that was enlightening and fun. Did they do edit suites? They do have edit suites That was what he wanted me to see what he didn't want me to see was all the other kind of Genki stuff like the fact that they literally have footage archived on betas still whoa Yeah, but remember broadcast TV that was a thing but you'd think you'd move it a lot more recently Where you would actually be submitting finished projects by mailing a Betamax tape or not a Betamax sorry it's like they were two different standards Yeah Like the the broadcast tape version and like the one that competed with VH anyway the point the point is They still have like a show and this is after they cleaned up They have like a shelf of betas and I'm like you're great And I was telling them about the vault and stuff and they're like yeah, that would be pretty cool and Taryn's like yeah That's pretty useful. Maybe I don't have an editing suite, but I do have that anyway, the point is she asked me to have lunch with her and She she didn't really tell me what it's about it turned out. She wanted me to talk some sense into her son Okay, who had this idea in his head that he was going to he has two videos uploaded to YouTube You know you probably get this all the time to write people being like how do I be a successful always? YouTuber especially on my not to plug it, but especially on my stream. Yeah, especially on your streams cuz like You have which is hilarious cuz my stream sucks and like nobody watches it and people ask me how to be a successful streamer I'm like you think I know I'm glad you said that because I was gonna crap on your stream a little bit Yeah, I know it's there. I was gonna be like yeah like and your streams not even That bigger anything and charity like but you have a lot more success streaming then like you know how it's like the first Thousand subscribers on YouTube is the hardest right you've passed that first handful of subscribers Never took a further step phoned it in the rest of the way But you clearly know enough to know a thing that people would ask you about it anyway, so so Usually when people ask that question it starts with yeah, I just uploaded my first video, or I just did my first stream What would you recommend and the guys like yeah? so I want to do like a like a fitness clothing line, and I want to do like a fitness lifestyle vlog and And and and it way to compete against everyone yeah, yeah, and it was funny because His mom's giving me additional details like yeah He wants me to pay for plane tickets so he can like travel interesting places for his lifestyle vlog Of course and so I was like yeah, yeah, all right, bro One I'm not gonna side with your mom and and just say straight up stay in school could be a decent strategy because I didn't Don't worry about it really I mean she's got plane tickets go all around the world, okay? Anyway yeah, I'm not siding with his mom directly because like the whole school thing didn't work out very well for me But I was also like on the other hand Dude if you're gonna succeed as a social media influencer You won't succeed unless you have a the passion and be the drive Slash work ethic yeah to do it on the side yeah, so if you don't have anything better to do then stay in school But don't lose track of that this should be your full-time side project Yeah, and that was sort of the advice that I gave and the guy like you look like I you know punched him in the stomach Well like and I was bigger than I am the My biggest thing oh my goodness. Thank you Nick My biggest thing is like the Aces should be paying me for this yeah I've been drinking out of this bottle on WAN show for years. Yeah Yeah, okay, maybe I'll do that. I don't think he controls any budget spending there, so it won't do me any good But that's fine My my hey, Sus pay us the money product placement, okay? See you can never get money for product placement if you have product placement all over your stuff for free anyway Yeah, people are everyone looks at it, and they just go Why so I would I pay for this you're gonna do it anyway ever done a successful straight-up product placement deal? I don't like so We tried to do something with a smart watch like with pebble I think like a thousand years ago, and then pebble wouldn't even send us review samples Yeah, and then they got bought yeah, so that's about how successful we've been Yeah, maybe they should have done that that marketing anyway Okay, so my thing especially people are in his specific position. Yeah, where you like he's uploaded two videos Yes, my whole thing is like I don't care and you shouldn't Upload way more that's your big problem right now is you just need to do it a whole bunch Yeah, because there's going to be things that you're doing doing it doing it yeah Yeah, and from doing it yeah, okay anyway like you know Alright, let's roll the intro I don't know if the uh the land show announcement went up. Oh it did look at that LTX I'm actually getting a lot more confident that this is gonna be a lot of fun Yeah, the case toss was really fun. We put we put actually We put a lot of fun in the case toss. We put a lot of fun in the case toss We put a lot of fun in the case toss. We put a lot of fun in the case toss The case toss was really fun. We put we put actually we put coltons wife in charge of the event yeah Because previously we had colton in charge Because they had such a wonderful and well-organized wedding and then we found out that of course he had nothing to do with it So we hired his wife, and she is doing a bang-up job so far. There is gonna be a lot of fun stuff to do also fresh books yay, fresh box and EK water blocks like a wood book now hold on a second actually you know what I'll get into it in the sponsor spot But that is not as crazy as it sounds yeah that whole thing that I just put on the screen there Okay, so First first topic you know what let's jump right into the good stuff today The original article here is from PC perspective, and it was posted on the forum by E kin and Our buddy Mr.. The one and only Ryan Shroudastic got his hand on an AMD Vega Frontier Edition, and how he did this I can tell you He bought it the same as we had to ours is in the mail, okay? AMD is not sampling Frontier Edition Why might they not oh actually you know it's really funny is I didn't even read the article Purchased directly from a reseller rather than being sampled from AMD so why didn't they want to sample this to press well there are a number of Potential explanations for that can you think of any? Well they've been moving this way for a while Okay, that's true on the professional cards Yeah The fire fire class cards and actually kind of both sides have been moving this way a little bit Nvidia has still been on their Gaming cards have been pushing really hard But AMD for a little while now has been saying that they don't want to give out as many reviewer sample cards because they want To do more seeding into the community and Nvidia did not sample the Titan XPP Yeah We have a video coming featuring it soon, but we borrowed it from somebody and they're trying to line this card up more against those That's true. Okay, okay my main now. I'm gonna contribute a potential reason potential reason number two Yields are very low, and they don't have a lot of them. Yeah, okay, so that might be another one you got another one I Don't this is a thing mm-hmm, but even maybe everyone is buying every single card everywhere for AMD right now Okay, so they like know that it will sell immediately so price so rather than giving away Literally money in the bank which when you're AMD and Like with their press right now They might not even need reviews of this thing because everyone talking about AMD stuff is super popular right now Yeah, and very positive right now. Yeah, so it's gonna be popular and positive anyways And then everyone's buying it anyways because of mining so they might not even need the marketing that they would get from sending it Okay, which brings us then to reason number four which I actually think might be the most likely Vega does not look like it is going to set the world on fire and AMD and for that matter I mean who hasn't done this but AMD has demonstrated in the past a lower level of eagerness eagerness to seed products that they don't think are going to be as exciting in an attempt to if not limit Independent coverage of them at least not spend money on getting independent coverage of them So let's give a brief outline of what it is so the Vega founders edition is not explicitly aimed at gamers Frontier editions I did that a lot on the announcement with you like really you guys I actually might have another walk in the park coming on AMD's naming schemes because I'm getting real fed up So the Vega frontier is like almost sort of copy everyone else Yeah, not explicitly aimed at gamers like Nvidia Titans. We shouldn't expect the best performance per dollar, okay? Gaming results though, and this is this is kind of this kind of throws up some warning flags Because with gaming results between a GTX 1070 and the 1080 priced at a thousand dollars for the 300 watt version this tells us a couple things number one is that and that's the air-cooled one and $1,500 for the 375 watt water-cooled one that tells us we are pretty close to the the limit of what this chip is capable of and There there isn't a lot of magic sauce. We did a video kind of covering this a little while ago. It was a holy Shiite episode that we did where we were like $6,000 graphics card we game on it The amount of R&D that goes into building a GPU is such that You should be very surprised if there is a specific product created for Quadro versus G force yeah, it's the same product. It's the same silicon and in much the same way AMD's frontier edition silicon will be the same silicon Will be the same silicon give or take it might be set up and utilized or whatever in different ways and the memory paired with It might be different units here And yeah, and the logic on board might be a little bit different tweak here and there yeah but the amount of money involved in building a GPU is incredible so if you are expecting then the gaming versions of Vega to come in and Crush the GTX 1010 80 let alone the 1080 Ti you are setting yourself up for a major Disappointment, and I'm sure that the AMD fans in twitch chat are freaking out right now I'm specifically not looking at it because I really don't care. I'm laying down some reality here And that's the way it's going to be there is some driver optimization to be done And AMD has been notorious for this the 5870 is a perfect example of a product that Managed to get faster enough through driver releases that when they rebadged it it ended up being It ended up not looking that bad when you looked at launch reviews of the rebadged one versus launch reviews of the original one But you can't expect more than it's not going to double in speed driver optimizations We'll give you a little bit, but the silicon is by and large not going to change Yeah, the clock speed is by and large not going to change because it's a 300 watt part at 999 AMD's closest thing to a competitor is probably going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of a GTX 1070 to 1080 in terms of performance so AMD may not have abandoned the high-end, but it does look like because they're not even talking about like a higher end Yeah, Vega architecture product right now not at all They do seem to have abandoned whether by choice or whether by strategy the Enthusiast of the very extreme high-end. I like using rise of the Tomb Raider as a Standard benchmark reason yeah, it scales really well CPU and GPU and and multi GPU even and If the Vega fe only managed to beat out the 1070 by about a four to five percent lead Which is at that price like really not great? so It's not a gaming card No, it's not and we don't know anything about what pricing of Vega gaming like what are they gonna? Call it our nine Vega or something. I don't know I don't know I don't know but a lot of times you can get a Rough idea of how it'll perform and things that aren't gaming by using games. Yes, they're not unreal They're not completely unrelated. Yeah, but with that said I believe Is it FP 16 something there's there's some more? more professional grade features that make it more Comparable to quadros than a straight gaming card would that will perform much better and may make Vega Frontier Edition very interesting for workstation users because it will be similar in terms of performance to a P5000 quadro, but at about half the price of that So at the very least if you if you were wondering about buying like this crazy tiered AMD card for gaming like maybe don't Maybe that's what we know so far at the very least like wait until the gaming version of it arrives And we can see kind of what we're dealing with here even PC purse conclusion is like Title-marked conclusion dot-to-dot for now or something like that so like yeah, I Don't think it's a huge deal Yeah, unless you're looking into this card as a gamers perspective, but that's not what it is no And it's not how it's priced yeah, I am shocked that they had the guts to do a water-cooled card again Like that looked like a desperation tactic last time the fury X was a commercial failure utter commercial failure and Could you buy if I don't think you could buy a fury X air-cooled though right no so this is a versioning thing Yeah, I have an air-cooled one. There's this is fury and fury X again. Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, that's fair Yeah, we've got people in the chat. I'm finally I'm finally looking at the chat I've decided to subject myself to that age core one two three is like AMD fans equal Nvidia fans, and then there's some emoji. I can't see because it's too small and yeah I mean recent wars, but I talked about this a little bit on the last show too The recent war has been kind of interesting because everything that people are fighting about are these like Outside of the tiers of what they're probably shopping for products Weird The percentage of people that are actually interested in buying a thousand dollar graphics card Because if AMD can get this priced right then you know it yeah, it'll stomp all over a 1060 But if it consumes like 300 watts Yeah, I don't know well. You know what how about this? Why don't we cross that bridge when we get to it in the meantime? That's what we know for now also our Vega Frontier Edition is coming so we're gonna run all of our own numbers and make our own video and You can probably save yourself the trouble of watching it by reading Shrouds review Am I allowed to say that yeah? I mean who's gonna who's gonna fire me? Linus you're fired Crap I'll have to go to my other job. Yeah, I'll have to go work work for Float Playing Club like you Yeah, would you hire me? Yeah? Yes? Yeah, I would you'd be pretty expensive, but all right. I feel like that investment would pay itself off So the original article for our next news story is overclocked 3d dot net AMD announces their new Ryzen Pro series of Desktop CPUs, and I I gotta confess. I was a little bit confused initially By the announcement of Ryzen Pro because I kind of went well What makes a processor? Pro other than being a processor Nothing I get nothing for processor. Sorry. I'm replying to something in the time. I hate you Can you can I pretend that that laugh was for my joke? The best part too is you made a joke And I didn't laugh because I was answering a question of someone going really Luke laughing again. Everything's funny I'm just like you know what I enjoy things and I find things funny Maybe we do when show at the end of the day on Friday So we can kind of loosen up a little bit hang out for the first time this week Because we almost never see each other this week was pretty good this week was pretty good Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Daisy underscore HK. Yeah, I just enjoy laughing at things Yeah, you know what laughter is the best medicine. I even got called Unless you need chemotherapy in which case chemotherapy is probably the best medicine You might need to go to do yes So laughter is the best medicine for if you're not actually sick if you're not actually Okay, anyway, so I was sitting there going what makes something a processor and my Got him And my My initial answer to that was the obvious one ECC support, okay? Yeah, okay, okay? So you can use server memory that has automatic error corrections That are going on the fly in case there's like you know a solar flare that flips a bit or whatever and you You're you're freaking you know free NAS zfs array gets corrupted irreparably like that That's a pro level feature, but the funny thing about that is that Ryzen? Has ECC yeah, they didn't fuse it off the way that Intel does on all of their consumer chips Even ones that cost a thousand dollars, which I think is unreasonable because They're worried about they're worried about cannibalizing their enterprise chips their zions So what they do do though and This didn't occur to me initially is they offer Windows 10 enterprise security support AES 128 bit memory encryption and a longer warranty with that said a 36 month warranty is what they used to offer anyway but Hey, okay I mean sure it's also a processor whether it's AMD or Intel. They're both pretty good about their CPUs not just like Randomly failing how many times have you had a processor die? I had an opter on 165 die I deserved it Was it your fault I had it How do I put this um yes, I'm gonna hold on yes I didn't like drop it on the floor, but you like overvolted the but tar off of it Just can you just relax okay? Yeah, okay? So I had it chilled to minus 25 degrees Okay, I'm not gonna finish this All right, all right, so it was not really the processors so I had that coming I'm not Yeah, so zero so far. Yeah anymore No, I'm also at zero so like it's probably Fine the pro series will come okay now to be clear. I have had like test bench chips die Was that the the old-school chiller? Yes? Oh, that's pretty cool. That's the chiller. We haven't thrown it away I might resurrect it someday just for lols you should do that as a video It would be a great actually would be a great video That would be really good Alex to help you with it and like yeah, nice it a little bit Yeah, get it in a cooler box than just proto case to do something. Yeah, yeah, nice I like this project that should be really sick, and then we could use it like on our test benches and stuff I'll be really sick. We'd have to do up a new block for it because the block I used to use for it was a danger den TDX and that was out of pure cheapness Maybe you can follow up the like terrible heat sink guides with like a we professionally designed our own heat sink terrible chiller guide I would love personally I would love watching that that would be great Um so I was actually using a highly not recommended so we're asking for the story, but keep going with anti-frost Sorry, but keep going with anti-freeze And water as coolant because once you're going down to no no sorry that's not what you use you use a windshield deicer So that's actually like an alcohol based coolant. Yeah, so I was using that at Like sub 25 degrees actually a little more than that on the actual coolant about sub 35 I was using that in an acrylic block oh So you leaked on to it? No no I didn't I didn't no that survived no no I'm just saying that that block still exists We still have it, but it is so full of micro cracks around the fittings that it is terrifying so I was using it out of cheapness because I just assumed it would have cracked at that point Whatever block I used in this contraption had to have like industrial glue put on it so that I could put all of my like neoprene insulation and crap all over it and So it was basically a write-off and that was at a time that so a what you're supposed to use an all metal block Yeah, preferably all the same metal yeah, so that the expansion contraction is of different metals. Yeah, yeah So preferably you're supposed to do that, but those back then I would have been buying like a water cool I think that was called the heat killer 3.0 or something like that or whatever it would have been at the time Were those like crazy silver blocks? They were like 150 bucks all just silver not you could get silver ones But even the coolant was like a little bit of a Unsuitable I don't know what to Yeah, what was it? Oh I was Health Promise You could get silver ones, but even the copper ones, they were like 80 or 90 euro or something stupid like that. So I was using a crazy dumb thing. Anyway, if we use the partnerships that I now have with like ProtoKaze to do a really nice enclosure for it and get EK to build us something custom or something for it, that would be a sick project. And something that we could pull out with pride on the test bench when we want. You know what, because we have more resources now, more writers and all that kind of stuff. Something that I would love for us to do is back when it was just you and me, we did some factory tours. Yes. We did Armron, we did Sennheiser, we did, I feel like there was another one. Yeah, we did Cherry. Cherry. How could you forget Cherry? That was where we popped our factory tour Cherry. Yeah, it was. It was great. I think I missed it because Sennheiser and Cherry were on the same trip. They were. Yeah. But now, going through, like maybe spending a couple days there and going through each station through the design process of a water block. Go through the guy that CADs out the original files. You know what? We tried to do EK. Oh. We actually were thinking about doing it on the same trip as Cherry and Sennheiser. Oh. We couldn't get it worked out because the budget required for all the travel and because we do charge for those. That is a sponsored type of project for us. They couldn't make that work at the time. But now that they're going a little bit more mainstream, and actually that might work. We'll talk a little bit more about that when we do our ad spot for WAN Show today. That's an EK spot. Maybe we could make it work because I would love to see their shop. That would be super cool. Their shop is sick. Yeah. And if you can actually see what goes into designing and building a product. EK actually manufactures everything. So they're not like all water cooling companies that are designing somewhere and then outsourcing to China. EK actually owns their own manufacturing. So it would be pretty cool to see that. That would be pretty sick. OK. What else do we got? OK, Ryzen Pro. Right. We were talking about that. OK, Ryzen Pro offers yet another advantage over Intel's i3 series, especially because those lack Intel vPro. So basically, AMD is putting more pressure on Intel. And this time, it's on the professional and business feature side, which is definitely something that I can appreciate because, I mean, you were talking about this the other day. Security and encryption is going to become one of those things where we might be sitting in a golden age of hardware right now where manufacturers are waking up to the need for encryption on their devices. Apple has to a great extent. And governments haven't outlawed it yet. So think about this. 10 years from now, getting your hands on a Ryzen Pro might be like a thing. Yeah, for your encrypted computer. If you want encrypted memory. Yeah. Think about that for a minute. Like, I'm not trying to go all tinfoil hat, but it's no secret that governments around the world There's articles in this WAN show that we haven't talked about yet that are exactly in line with this. Yeah, it's going to be an interesting time. AMD accidentally reveals Ryzen 3 details. Womp womp. Is this like a quote unquote accidentally, or is this legitimately accidental? I can never tell with those guys, to be honest with you. Sometimes I suspect that it's quote unquote accidentally. Other times, I believe them that it's not accident. I don't know. Anyway, originally posted by Ryan Smith over at Anand Tech. Well, gee, if you were paying close attention to this morning's announcement of AMD's new Ryzen Pro skews, then you likely noticed something interesting. The non-X Pro chips all have the same performance specifications as their standard consumer counterparts. Specifically, both of the non-X Pro skews with existing Ryzen 5 and 7 counterparts have the same core counts, clock speeds, and TDPs. As for the final two Ryzen Pro 3 skews, well, they inadvertently showed their hand when it comes to the forthcoming Ryzen 3. OK. So, I mean, we are making some assumptions here, but it looks like they've inadvertently revealed the Ryzen 3 1300 and 1200 specs. So the Ryzen 3 looks like it'll be a quad-core CPU without SMT. So that's four threads rather than eight, which, in my opinion, is what entry-level chips should have been at this point for a few years now. Give me one quick second. You're good. Everything's fine. Don't worry about it. Everything's OK. Is everything OK? Yeah, it is. 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We're probably, hopefully going to have, okay, I'm kinda tipping my hand a little bit here, but LTX is gonna be freaking sick. We're gonna have 16K gaming there. The K-Stos K, I don't know, it's on float plane right now. Yeah, it's channel super fun on float plane right now. Yeah, it's not on channel super fun on YouTube, but we did a case toss to show what it might be like while you're at LTX, and it was actually tons of fun. Yep, there's gonna be other examples of booths, there's gonna be other types of booths, like guess how many CPUs are in a jar, kinda like the old jelly bean thing, Rocket League in real life, video editing tips from Taron. We're literally gonna take his workstation and- Like transplant it over there, and just let him keep working. Yep, and he'll be talking to people about what he's doing. So it's July 29th from 11 a.m. to 5 p.m., and you can get your ticket through the forum, or at the link in the video description, which I'm gonna go ahead and drop in the Twitch chat right now. Twitch Plays Pokemon was like, are we just skipping 8K? Yes. Yes. Okay, other sponsor, EK Water Blocks. Heck yeah. So this, my friends, is EK's foray into the mainstream, but unlike their previous Predator lineup of, Oh, no. Thank you. Trying to make water cooling more mainstream, like trying to be more like an AIO, but better, like expandable. This one is much, much less expensive. So what they've done, and this sounds crazy on first glance, but we actually have a review, which by the way we completed, it's not uploaded yet, but we completed, we evaluated this thing before we did any sponsor spots for it. We have a review coming. It's pretty positive. This thing is really good. 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And unlike other AIOs, it includes actual fittings, it includes tubing that you can change out for something else, it includes Vardar fans, so very good fans, and it includes a custom grade pump and then tube reservoir combo. Nice, that's cool. So looking pretty good. So you can check that out over at geni.us slash ekfluidgaming. I'll drop that in the Twitch chat as well. All right. Yeah, I know I got the notification from Tyler that he was clearing the fridge out in 15 minutes, and I got it 21 minutes ago. Oh, and he was gonna throw away your food? Which I like don't even normally store food here, because I just have like Soylent, which you don't throw out, which I have for like breakfast and stuff, but I had a bunch of food here that my girlfriend cooked and she's the least domestic person ever and doesn't cook, but she's very excited about this stuff right now. So if it all got thrown out, that would have been a very bad. Right. Yeah, that would have been bad. Bad scene. So I solved that. Good. Everything's fine. You solved that by fishing it out of the garbage can, putting it back in the container and not telling her? No, I think. Or. I think in Tyler's regular style, he said 15 minutes and it's probably like half an hour. Okay. So it just wasn't done yet. Okay. We've got people asking why I'm using an iPhone. To be clear, what I mean by that is he gave people a grace period, not that he's delayed. I'm using an iPhone because I actually don't really care right now between Android and iOS, and I had to give the shooters my S8, which I was using as my daily driver, to do comparative B-roll against the OnePlus 5. And then I just haven't gotten around to putting my SIM back in the S8. I do intend to go back to the S8. How do you feel about the notifications? They're both awful in different ways. Okay. Because that was like one thing that I hated about iOS when I used it for a fairly short period of time was the notifications. Yeah, the problem is that Samsung in the, I think it was the Marshmallow update. At all. The Nougat update. So Samsung, even when you set your privacy settings. People in the chat, reee! Even when you set your privacy settings to show your notifications on your lock screen before you log in, they changed it so that Gmail notifications don't show anymore. So I actually have to unlock the phone. Like I can see I have Gmail notifications, but I can't see what they are. Okay. Well you should have your phone encrypted so it doesn't show what they are anyways. No, I think, yeah, no, it's encrypted. But you should make it so that it doesn't show anyways. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was like in the security meeting. Should, should, should, should, should, should, should. The point is I get too many notifications for that to be perfectly frank with you. If certain emails come through, you can get super screwed. Yeah, I guess that's possible, but there's not much. Does it just show the subject? Yeah, just subject line. That's it? Maybe the first few words, but there's not much. There's some emails that you can get screwed for. I don't get any like two factor emails though, like that. Cause I think that's the kind you're thinking of. Mostly. Yeah, no. Yeah, okay. No. So, so yeah, it's really frustrating. And yeah, so anyway, I just haven't put my SIM back in the S8 yet. And I actually own two smartwatches. They both sit on my bedside table on their chargers. And whichever phone I happen to be using, I just grab either an Android Wear or an Apple Watch. Wow. Yep. Whew. Okay. Cause I just don't care anymore at this point. I am actually pretty psyched for the, you know what? Here, let's blow through Ryzen 3. Oh. That's the opposite of first world problems. That's just like first world excess. Sorry. I have a matching phone for, I have a matching watch for my phone. It's perfect all the time. You know what? It's not that different from people who have watches for their outfits. In fact, it's very different. I only need two watches. That's much more practical. That is not more practical. No, your way. Oh, oh, I see. I was admitting a minor amount of defeat. Yeah. So anyway, AMD accidentally reveals Ryzen 3 details. It's quad core without SMT. It'll use the same dies, Ryzen 5, Ryzen 7. Oh, that's surprising actually. Luke, don't get paid enough. Even if I did, I wouldn't do that. Four cores distributed over two CCXs, but we saw that that wasn't a huge deal with the lower end Ryzen 5s. Same cash structures, Ryzen 5 1400, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. TDP will still be the same 65 watt, but as we know, the TDP ratings for CPUs, like Intel rates all of their HDDT chips, like 130 watts. Yeah. Clearly the ones with twice as many cores clearly consume more power. Yeah. Clearly. So there's that. So it's just like blanket statement, whole areas. Yeah, I had wanted to chat about, oh yeah, you know what? Well, do you want to do this first or that? Why don't we do that? Let's do that. Okay. Okay. I realize what we're saying right now is very cryptic, but this is important. If you are not already on float plane, this is the week, well, other than like a Scrapyard Wars. Other than Scrapyard Wars. Because unlike Scrapyard Wars, where we have one piece of content that like half of our community cannot wait to watch. We have four pieces of content right now that are behind the early access wall on float plane that are freaking unreal, but they'll all be coming sometime in the next week. So if you care at all. I've watched all of them, and I don't normally watch our videos even that often. Well, okay, because I hear about everything that's going on and I'll like talk to the writer that's working on it and know their conclusions and stuff. Wow, Dick. I'm just saying. Okay. So LTT video. Exposing Deadmau5's studio. Spoiler, he's a huge geek. This isn't even an LTT video, but do cell phones actually cause cancer? It was an entertaining tech we're gonna make. You probably know the answer, I kinda hope, but like it's a good thing to send to people. Not everybody does or we wouldn't have made the video. Fair. LTT, unboxing a quantum computer. That was very cool. That was awesome. So was the Deadmau5 one. Those were both really awesome. LTT, the most important iPad video in years, which actually got lost in translation. It's supposed to be the most important iPad in years, but that's okay, we'll figure that out. Also, there's a giraffe in the video, which is why it says Gone Wild. See, we're all about clickbait. That's true. Yeah. LTT, the ultimate RGB build guide. Yes, build guides are back in a real way. Just to, okay, okay, this one I'll tease. Class, distinction. I didn't know you could do that. I'm sorry? I didn't even know you could do it. You didn't know you could do that? The post preview. Check out this intro. This is very cool, yeah. The best part is, can you identify all the people? I can tell who some of them are. Except for when they're running by. That's James. Yeah, that was very obvious, yeah. I can identify everyone except for when they're all running by all at once. Anyway. Then it gets messy. That's a great video. LTT, can you Plasti Dip a whole PC inside and out? LTT, unboxing Canada's biggest supercomputer. Yeah. LTT, can you Plasti Dip a whole PC? Is actually really funny. Yeah. So next week is gonna be ridiculous because many of these projects were things that we've been working on for weeks and or months. And they just all kind of came together at the same time. In fact, if I was in charge of programming here, I might not have necessarily, I might have tried to find other sort of, I don't wanna say crappier stuff, but less expensive content to produce to space things out a little bit. But if you guys wanna join the Float Playing Club, basically the way to do it, you got the link? You posted in the chat? Yeah. Yeah, okay, good, LTT bots got that. Now is kind of the time to do it. And yeah, it's gonna be a good time. It's gonna be a good time over on Float Playing right now. If you wanna binge watch all that stuff, you're gonna like it. Okay, so Apple, moving on to news. This was supposed to buy WMGroomAK on the forum and the original article is from NGadget. It looks like Vivo? Vivo. Oh, that's what happened there. What? Beats Apple to an under display fingerprint scanner. But they say that the technology still has a way to go. I mean, that's how it sometimes is, where people are like, yeah, Apple never invented anything. Whereas a lot of the time, Apple doesn't invent it. They just kind of come along and use it when it's actually mature enough. Yeah, to be clear, it's a Qualcomm technology. Yeah, so this is an ultrasonic fingerprint solution offering integration beneath OLED displays up to 1.2 millimeters thick. That's pretty thick for an OLED. As well as aluminum even. That's freaking cool. That's pretty crazy. If the whole phone, imagine this. If you could have, just to unlock your phone is easy, it's just one, and then to access your encrypted folder, you have to put all five fingers on it. Can you imagine that? That would be pretty cool. So if you had, you could have the fingerprint down here and then all four fingers on the back have to engage. Yes. That'd be pretty neat. I would love that. It'd have to be really accurate for that. First gen stuff's not gonna have that, but that's the kind of stuff I'd love to see in the future. Apparently it works even when the device is immersed in water, which is a huge problem with existing fingerprint sensors. And it tolerates- To be fair, not because you're swimming with your phone all the time, but if it's raining or something like that, if it's a little bit wet, it can be really annoying. Or if you sweat as much as I do, sports, not just in general. I'm not sweaty right now. I touched your shirt so I could be as sweaty as, you know. Yeah, he's good. Scientific test, very scientific test. Oh, that was really awkward. I have problems with fingerprint scanners though, because I have, as you know, annoyingly sweaty hands. You're not nearly as bad as when I met you. When I met you, it was full on hyperhidrosis. Like- It's gotten a little bit better. It has gotten a little bit better. I would go out of my way to not touch him. When I shook hands at his interview, I was just like, can I hire this guy? I also used to, if I went on a, let's get personal here for a second, if I went on a date with someone, I would avoid that. You would avoid handholding. So you would just straight grab her by the- I do arm over, or, I don't go, no, I don't go Trump style with that, but I'd try to go arm over shoulders or something. I would even do the joking arm and arm, we're being funny old school thing. Wow, that's cringe, dude. Well, I would do it as a joke, to be clear. But I would do that for a couple seconds to try to show I'm not being standoffish, but also I'm gonna do this as a joke and then stop, because I don't wanna hold your hand. Wow. Because I was like, yeah, it's pretty gnarly. It's mostly fine now. Okay. Yeah, how's it going? So anyway, Vivo's XPlay 6 demonstrated the technology. The demo started off with a fingerprint registration process that requested blah, blah, blah, et cetera, et cetera. Then the user would be able to unlock the phone by touching the spot where they did the setup process, or somewhere else. So fingerprint recognition speed in this implementation is slower than the near instantaneous unlock we expect from normal fingerprint scanners, about a second between the first touch and entering the home screen. But they said the same tech could be applied across the entire screen. Oh wait, no, hold on. Oh yeah, so they touched a different area just above the old fingerprint button. So instead, they might eventually cover just the bottom half of the screen rather than the whole screen to save cost. And yeah, same tech shown on the back of the phone's body, allowing it to be unlocked even when placed in water. Pretty freaking cool. I like that. Yeah. I really like, like, I very much like the fingerprint unlock on the back of the Pixel. I'm a huge fan of that. Are we going into this? Yeah, I don't know. Should we, or is it just boring? I wanna talk about Ethereum mining. Okay, yeah. This is a really quick one, but this was posted on Futurism, and the original post on the forum was ginger137. And the headline kinda says it all. There's not a whole lot more to say at this point. Ethereum could be using more than an entire country's worth of electricity. Now, of course we don't mean like China or the US or whatever. Oh, hi guys. But I think the country that we were talking about was, oh, a small country. Cyprus. So a bit more than what's consumed by the island of Cyprus. So 4.2 terawatt hours. Wow. That's pretty insane. So one major reason for this is the power hungry graphics cards that are involved, but this might not be the case for long. Ethereum has plans to move away from its existing energy intensive mining algorithms. So there you go. I wonder what that means for people's hardware. If it's just an algorithm thing, like will that rebalance what is better at it? It means a lot of cheap 580s on eBay. Hopefully, because honestly, I was talking to someone the other day, buying a computer right now? Kinda sucks. Holy crap. It's a great time to buy a CPU. Yeah, but okay, but on the counter argument, and people are gonna hate me for this, but it's kind of rough to get into PC gaming right now. And I actually see a lot of people going like, okay, well, the graphics card that I want is gonna cost more than the freaking console. Yep. And like, it's hard to justify. Yep. It's genuinely a little bit hard to justify just because the graphics cards are so expensive. And if I'm AMD, I certainly wanna sell graphics cards for as much as I can. Of course, why not? Or Nvidia for that matter, although Nvidia has been a little less popular on the whole Ethereum mining side of things. And like I've seen some stuff where people are trying to snipe out stores because certain stores aren't increasing their prices because they're just trying to go for MSRP. And RAM too, there's a worldwide DRAM shortage that's expected to last well into next year. It's great for companies like Corsair, because it's hilarious. Like RAM makers like Corsair and Kingston, where they buy modules and then sell them. It's great for them because as much as it's frustrating for them to not be able to get as much allocation as they'd like to sell, their margin on a product like that is kind of set because there's a lot of competitors out there and everybody's kind of in that seven to 12% range, pretty much, give or take. But even though they're selling less, what they do sell hits their revenue numbers a lot harder. So they're doing more revenue and making 10%, let's say, on a $50 transaction versus making 10% on a $100 transaction, having to do all the same fixed cost things. So the processing fee. Marketing. Transportation, marketing, packaging. Yeah. Hey, that's great for them. Speaking of the memory business, RIP Lexar memory cards. This was posted by Shutterboy on the forum. The original article here is from Pedipixel. But Crucial, I don't know if you guys know this, but Micron, parent company of Crucial and Lexar. Micron just kind of went, yeah, you know what? Compared to the lucrative business of selling flash to companies like Amazon and Google, selling SD cards is a fool's errand due to those low margins and low volumes. All that packaging and all that marketing involved in what? This tiny transaction, this is stupid. So they're just like, forget it. And they are shutting down their removable storage retail business. I hope they don't shut down Crucial because their Facebook page is hilarious. Other products that are being killed off include USB flash drives, memory card readers, and storage drives, which honestly, I'm kind of not stoked on because the only pro-grade card readers that we could find are those Lexar ones that we're using our ingestations. We can scoop up a few. I'm not even kidding. We might even do that. Although I did run into someone at Computex that's making something that looks really pro and that has SSD and RedMag versions as well. They're like rack mount and they're modular. So I'll look into those. They run off Thunderbolt too and our ingestations are Thunderbolt. So we'll see. But if that doesn't pan out or if that product sucks, Lexar is all I kind of got. But the decision was made as part of the company's ongoing efforts to focus on its increasing opportunities in higher value markets and channels. So basically, like Lexar products, suck it. They are exploring opportunities to sell all or part of the Lexar business. But what that means is basically that Lexar won't be Lexar in much the same way that Sharp is trying to get their brand back in North America because they're actually suing over Hisense, I believe it's Hisense. I'm gonna double check before I disparage a brand. Sharp, Hisense, lawsuit I think. Yeah, Sharp's saying that Hisense's shoddily manufactured TVs are hurting their brand image. Even though they were the ones who sold the business unit to Hisense. They sold it. Can they do anything about that? I don't know, but it explains. You know how we go to CES and we're like, what the heck is Hisense? Yes, yeah. Why are they even here? Yeah. Now I finally get it. Yes. What else we got for this week? There's not a ton. There's that weird Canada thing which might affect other people, so I don't know, we might wanna talk about that. There's the tech power up thing. I'm wondering on your opinion on that actually. Okay, I'm sorry, I really haven't looked into this. Oh, and there's not a ton to look into it. You can look into it really quick. So, should I start on it? Sure. Having not read it? I was posted on the forum by eyescan'tseal or 24fps, and that was the only way you were gonna get me to say those words altogether in that order. Very, very funny. You know that's gonna get clipped. You gigantic troll. Like really tightly clipped. I know. And the original article here is from delidedtech.com, which I've actually never heard of. What's delidedtech.com? I don't know. Wow, this looks like a very small site. And I'm not hating or anything, but basically the controversy is over a tech power up article that appeared to be an article anyway that was a comparison between AMD's Radeon RX 560 and Nvidia's GTX 1050, but that was actually an AMD ad. The article reads like a review with no disclaimers within the article itself that it comes from AMD or is sponsored by AMD. The only ad markers on the page were advertorial by AMD off to the side on the top right and the author being named advertorial. The article was posted directly in the review section of the site. Our forum members apparently disagree as to whether or not AMD crossed the line. I don't know why it wasn't linked, but here's the actual thing. Okay, so let's pull up the article here. This does look like an article. So they're sponsored right there. Yeah. Advertorial by AMD. Okay, this might be. This looks like it's been updated a little bit. This might be updated. Huh. When I first saw this, I didn't check for each individual location, but when I first saw this, I was not, oh, it says sponsored right there. Sponsored content by AMD. Okay, okay. It looks like a few things have been added. Huh. Interesting. So did they run their own benchmarks? In its current state, what do you think about the transparency? Okay, so. In its current state. The delidded tech site doesn't seem to have. Huh. Oh, I think there's a picture on there actually. So yeah, advertorial by AMD above the, here, let's go over to delidded tech for a second here and show what it used to look like. You can just move to my, oh no, mine's screwed. Yeah, yours is screwed up right now, sorry. So you're gonna wanna. This one? Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so here's what it used to look like. The writer was advertorial. It didn't say sponsored under the 560 logo. It didn't say sponsored under the logo here. And it said introduction as though it was an introduction to something. Yeah, but it did say advertorial by AMD over on the right. So it wasn't impossible to figure out what it was, but. I think the word advertorial is a little misleading because in my mind, an advertorial, okay, so it's like edutainment, right? Yeah. It's inherently educational and entertaining. It sounds like advert and tutorial. And it's not a tutorial. This isn't a tutorial at all. Here, let's read it. We'll read it together. It's not like how to use AMD graphics cards. Advertorial by AMD. Last year, AMD introduced the first Polaris generation of GPUs. With it, AMD delivered many new features along with great performance in the latest games and greatly improved efficiency. Like that is not a tutorial. Be it e-sports or AAA titles. Best value for the money at around 100 euros. Consistently smooth animation in popular games at 1080. Avoids performance pitfalls caused by running out of video memory due to 4 gig models being available. Okay, none of that's a tutorial. For only around 100 euros, the Radeon RX 560 outperforms the competition at this price point while showing the significant difference of upgrading from a previous generation. Is this their own benchmarks? So that's honestly where, that's the one that I don't like. Radeon Chill, hold on, hold on. Radeon Chill saves power during games. It does this in these kinds of titles. There is no tutorial. Oh, editorial, not tutorial. Editorial? Is it? Interesting. Good call, Twitch chat. Okay, I did not know that. I always thought that an advertorial was an ad that was like how to use it. I thought it was too. Which is what I think an advertorial should be, by the way, because I have no problem with that. In fact, that's something that I've been doing for years is like, here's how to water cool your computer. So brought to you by some parts that you can use to do that. But all of these things I'm saying still apply to other stuff. An advertorial, the proper definition is a newspaper or a magazine advertisement, don't worry too much about that, giving information about a product in the style of an editorial or objective journalistic article. Okay. So that's actually fairly transparent. Okay, all right, fine. I don't like, yeah. So there's a couple things here. Number one is I think they're gonna need to change this. Apparently it says testing done by AMD in the last paragraph. Yeah. I think it should say that on the chart. I think the testing shouldn't be done by AMD. That too. For one thing. So even when we do, so we've actually done a, here, the closest thing that we've done was... Okay, guys, the testing done by AMD should be on the chart. Here. This is the closest thing we've done, actually, with AMD. Oh, unskippable ads. We have unskippable ads? They enable after a while. So they're on our back catalog. Oh. Do we even do that? No, it's something that our MCN does automatically. Oh. Yeah. Okay. Can you build a 4K gaming PC for under $1,000? Oh, for some reason, we're not looking at the beginning of it. So we say something, something, something, something, something, AMD challenged us to do this, blah, blah, blah. Hold on. Here we go. Is this the sponsored by AMD call out? No, I don't think so. But this was actually before some of those guidelines came into place and we, let me see, where else? Anyway, I say it either two or three times in the video verbally. When we get to the benchmarks, because AMD's argument to us for doing this piece was that you can play popular e-sports titles at 60 FPS on their affordable, at 4K, on their affordable all-AMD machine. We ran these benchmarks ourselves, and we told them, we're not doing this video unless we can validate this ourselves. And that would have meant not taking the budget. That happened. Letting AMD run their own benchmarks, yes, I think strictly speaking, that does make it exactly as much of an advertorial then as just an opinion, but an editorial, again, and maybe you can hear, wanna be my definition man for a second here? Editorial, my understanding, means opinion. And facts, graphs, and charts are not opinions. A newspaper article written by or on behalf of an editor that gives an opinion on a topical issue. So really, that's where the line gets crossed for me, because the disclosure is not quite good enough. It should be in the title, sponsored, should be in the actual title of the article, according to like FTC guidelines, like that actually needs to get done. All of this stuff is quite a bit better now, advertorial by AMD, but in my opinion, these graphs should have either been run by Tech PowerUp, or they shouldn't be here. And it should just be an opinion piece. At the very least, in my opinion, it needs to be very clear on the graphs that these are graphs from the company. And then personally, that would just make me not care, and I'd move on. People are saying the graphs serve as evidence for the opinion of the author, but that's exactly it. Then it isn't an editorial. Then it's not an opinion. You can't say, in my opinion, this graphics card runs faster when you actually have facts. I mean, it's the whole blurry line between facts and opinion these days. But once it's been quantitatively measured in a way that is reproducible and defensible and adheres to the scientific method, once it's quantified, it isn't an opinion anymore. And a graph inherently suggests that it has been quantified. People are saying, but AMD is the author. That's fine, but it still isn't an editorial, and therefore isn't an advertorial. So, yeah. Huh. Okay. I mean, as long as it's disclosed, it's sort of up to them and their relationship with their viewers. For our part, we do do sponsored content. We've done sponsored content for years. We say when it's sponsored content. I would love to say that we've never used anyone's numbers. We've shown slides with a manufacturer's numbers. Generally speaking, that would be before we get an opportunity to show our own numbers, like at a launch event, or when it's being first unveiled at CES, for example. Yeah. But then it's usually clearly stated that that's their numbers. But it's clearly stated that it's someone else's numbers. Not quite, but probably almost every time that I've done that, I've been like, but we'll have to see when we can get it back into the office for testing of our own. I mean, with over 3,000 videos uploaded, I don't wanna say we've never shown anybody else's numbers, but generally speaking, that's where we draw our line, clear disclosure, and running our own validation against the claims of the manufacturer. In this case, I can't speak to their due diligence behind the scenes, except to say that this graph doesn't look like it was produced by them. It looks like it was produced by AMD. For all I know, they ran the numbers. But I don't have a way of knowing that. Well, no, it says performance by AMD. Oh, you know, that's right, it does, down at the very bottom. Testing done by AMD Performance Labs, March 1st, 2017, using a Core i7-6700K. Oh, boy. Yeah. So I'm not gonna say, look, sponsored content shouldn't exist. I'm just gonna say it needs to be clearly disclosed. And for me personally, I'm very careful about any claims that are made in our publication that I couldn't stand behind, whether I was the one who ran the numbers, or whether it was my idea, or whether it was someone else's idea, even in sponsored content. And it's up to Tech Power Up to manage their relationship with their audience, and their trust with their audience, in terms of how they wanna proceed with this. There. Yeah. Interesting. One more topic? I'm kinda done. Okay. Yeah, that's boring, that's boring. Oh, okay, this is kinda cool. There's pet, yeah. Yeah, CoaxialGamer posted this on the forum original article from overclock3d.net. Toshiba produces the world's first four-bit per cell. So that's QLC, NAND flash memory. So the endurance on this stuff will suck. Like we're talking a handful of write cycles compared to what SLC would have been capable of if it still existed. But great for write once, read many, many times kinds of applications, because it will be really cheap. So we're talking capacities of up to 96 gigabytes of storage per die, allowing Toshiba to create a 1.5 terabyte SSD package with a 16 die stacked architecture. So they're gonna demo it at the 2017 Flash Summit in August. There's X299 boards, bad VRM cooling. Oh yeah, that's a big sort of thing. I think we did tease that, so. Yeah. We should probably talk about it. I've seen this guy's videos before. I think you pronounced the channel Derbauer. Yep, Derbauer, I met him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. Good videos actually. But Derbauer's posted a video showing that the VRMs on an X299 board were reaching 100 degrees and the single eight pin connectors for the power supply can hit 60 degrees when overclocking the 10 core models. So here's Derbauer, good guy, pro overclocker. Actually makes the Derbauer D-Lidding tool, which he gave us one of. Nice. He's pretty sick. Yeah. And he has some serious concerns about X299 and how much time the motherboard manufacturers had to work on their designs to make sure that they were cooled correctly. And not just that, but. If you're interested in that kind of stuff, go watch his video. He does good stuff. But given that the motherboard manufacturers also got blindsided by any CPUs with a core count over 12, it's not just a matter of being rushed, but also a matter of not having enough information potentially to design a board that is actually capable of handling this. To be fair, he was testing with one of 10. Yes. The 10 core models. Yeah. But yeah. So it can't get any better. It can only get worse. Yeah. Is sort of the point. Yeah. Okay. There's one more topic we can gloss over it a little bit, but I just want to give some people information on it. The Amazon one? If there were, no. Oh, okay. Petia ransomware. Oh, okay. I do really want to give a call out for the guy on the forum that posted this thread. WM Groom AK has done a very, very good job of keeping this up to date with really good article linking, really good quoting, really good updates, condensing big updates on other sites down into easy digestible things. So if you're interested in the world of viruses and hacking and ransomware and wipers and everything else, definitely go check out this thread. I just posted it in the chat. Awesome. And there's a lot of crazy information in there. There's a bit of a developing story. Yeah. So you can, maybe if we cover this now and someone watches the show in three days, it's not going to be up to date information. All our notes are wrong. And not because James is a bad person, but because it has literally all changed. It's been changing. Since he made his notes. So go check out that thread. It's being updated. Like it was last updated like slightly over an hour ago. Yeah. Like after the show was even supposed to start technically before the show started, but yeah. It's parading as ransomware. It's actually a wiper. Apparently the email account has been closed by the email hosting services that was hosting it. So even if you try to pay to get your thing back, they can't receive the email. So they're not going to be able to give you a key to unlock your device. Like it's a mess right now. And if you're really interested in that stuff, I would check out that thread. It's very well up to date. All right. It even includes like the Bitcoin wallet address that people are sending money to. So you can see like how much money they've made so far and everything like it's, yeah, it's good. All right. So thanks for watching guys. And we will see you again next week. Same bat time, same bats channel. Bye. Bye. You're like out out, right? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Wendell's. Oh, okay. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I'm not trying to hide it. It's just. Yeah.