 Okay, we're live. Welcome to the Linus Tech Tips livestream featuring the one, the only... Um, you. Me? What is your name? Slick? Yeah, yeah, that, that, this guy on Twitter. Or actually, it looks like I could be pointing anywhere. I have a really, really weird birth certificate. Really? Slick PC? No, you don't. So we've got a lot of great topics for you guys tonight, and knock on wood, there should be no technical difficulties because we, I think, have finally pretty much sorted out our entire streaming setup, including our microphone. We're actually finally using our high-end camera. Can we knock on like every piece of wood in existence before the stream just crashes randomly because of something out of our control? Yeah actually, you know what? Last week, last week was a little bit rough because the issues were actually caused by my internet just deciding that it hated its life and that it didn't want to help us stream to you guys anymore, so that was super disappointing. Are you going to be running on battery throughout the entire livestream there? Yep. Oh, that's not going to work. Turn the mic down. Turn the mic down? Turn the mic down. This is the first time anyone's ever said that. Yeah, but apparently we're clipping. We finally figured everything out and the livestream's perfect. Nope. Okay, talk, talk. Hello? How's the audio guys? How's everything working? Is it good? Is it bad? Everyone's saying no. I don't know what no means. Mic is good? Mic's good? It's fine. It's good. Audio's good. Apparently the volume was really good. We're getting conflicting answers here. Don't want to turn it down. Too quiet. Too quiet. Turn it back up. Can you turn it a little bit back up? Not really. Not really? Oh, I had that. It's almost back to where it was. Okay. Well, at any rate, we don't have to talk that loud. Here we go. What should we start with today? We have our hands on a Galaxy S4, which is pretty exciting. For those of you who don't know, the Galaxy S4 is Apple's first foray into the Android marketplace. Previously Apple was really on a locked down hardware, software, marriage type of configuration where they really didn't believe in using open source software like Android, but they have done a complete reversal. Steve Jobs has risen from the dead and come back to lead the company into the bright horizon that is Android. I was just seeing if you were paying attention because I'm pretty sure it took you a while to figure out what I was talking about. It did because I've got other stuff to deal with. What we're actually going to be talking about is first impressions of the S4. Have you spent much time with it hands on? None. Okay. For those of you who haven't seen it already, there's a video on the Linus Tech Tips channel where I was at my briefing on the S4 with Samsung where they showed me the ins and outs of the device. There were some things that I thought were somewhat trivial that ended up being a far bigger deal once I had it explained to me correctly. It's not just explained to me correctly like, hey Linus, where's your back pocket? I got a $100 bill here. I'm just going to slip that in there and give you a little pat. No, it wasn't like that. It was, hey Linus, you know that feature where the screen works even if you don't quite touch it? Well, what about this Mr. Canadian over there? What about when you're wearing gloves and I'm like, oh, right? Because when I first heard about that feature where you can control the touch screen without actually quite touching it, I was like, oh, who needs that, right? But then all of a sudden I'm like, oh, that's right. So now you can actually interface with the device even when you don't have your hands. Well, I mean, you'll still need hands. That would probably be a good thing. Mind you, you were telling me about that gamer who plays without hands. Yeah. Oh, should we transition to that now? No, no, don't worry. We'll make it back to S4. It's on my list. I'm going to grab the S4 while you talk about that. But are we going to jump into the Diablo thing? No, no, no. We'll talk about that later. So we're just going to talk about him. I think his name is LookNoHands, although it could be some other variation of that. You just hit your head on a light. That's kind of funny, but no one saw it. But his hands are messed up. So what he does is he presses the controller against his face to control the game and he plays Call of Duty and stuff. And it's actually pretty awesome. He's got videos on YouTube and stuff. Check it out. It's actually really cool. And he's actually legit by the look of things. He's pretty good too, which is crazy. I mean, he's not like good like 10 to 1 kill to death ratio, but he's good like 2 to 1. He's good to the point where you wouldn't like, if you didn't see his name, you'd have no idea that he didn't have hands, which is kind of insane. So I got my hands, speaking of hands, I got my hands on one of those Intel beanies they call them here in Canada. We call them toques. Show your face mask thing. But the way it fits is a little funny. It almost looks like, because if you fold it up, the, you don't really see. You don't really see the graphic. And then if you don't fold it up, then it actually ends up covering your whole face. So the crazy Russian suggested to me that this is probably the best way to wear it. How do I look? It's fantastic. It looks like a really, really crappy version of Ghost. Sweet. And the skull's off. The skull's off where? Turn it to the, to the right. To the right? Your right or my right? Your right. How's that? That's a little bit better, but now the mouth is a little bit off. So do the bottom a little bit. There you go. We good? Okay. How, how will you give me 10 bucks if I do the rest of the live stream like this? If you do the entire rest of the live stream like this? 10 bucks. See, I would say yes, but that would get really old. Not only that, but I can't read and I can't see. Like I actually can't see through this thing. So anyway guys, if you didn't, if you didn't hear about it before until it was giving away beanies if you got a 3570K or a 3770K or whatever else. One of the Twitch chat members would just like to inform you that it's an improvement on your look. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Thanks for that. Anyway, so back to the S4. So okay, right. So I was more impressed than I was expecting to be. Now one of the things that pictures really didn't convey well was the build of the device. Give me your S3 for a sec. You have it on you, right? Yep. Almost dropped it. So the S3 feels like honestly weight wise, they're probably very similar. They haven't gone the iPhone 5 route where Apple basically went, yeah, we're going to make our phone weigh almost nothing and it's going to feel like space age in your hand because you're like, whoa, it doesn't weigh anything. The S4 weighs about the same as the S3 just sort of holding them. But what it, it feels a little bit more solid. I think part of it for me anyway is the fact that the sides are more square. I know you guys aren't going to be able to see this perfectly by any stretch of the imagination. But the S3 is very curved, whereas the S4 has more of a flat side. And what I find is that for me personally, I'm able to, I'm able to hold it more naturally without it, without it slipping past me. This is one of the things I like about the HTC One where it has kind of a, a bit of an edge on it. So you're less likely to drop it. For me it's more natural to hold a device that has flat sides. So the ergonomic changes, although it's not really apparent in pictures, do make a difference and it just feels a little bit more, more solid than, than what we've seen in the past from, from Samsung. And I'm including my experience with the S1 and the S2. Right. And the S3. Right. Another cool thing is of course you've got the swappable backplates, which is something the HTC One can't do, which gives you that micro SD expansion, the removable battery, as well as the, the option to change your backplate. So something like an HTC One, they're taking a very Apple like approach where every HTC One will look the same except silver or black. The battery's really beast though. One of the main things that I like about removable backplates is you can pretty much with every single removable backplate, you can change your battery. Yes. And that's helpful in case your battery borks or just sucks. With the HTC One's battery just seems. It seems to be just kind of awesome. Like what was that? You played music for how long? Yeah, for like six hours that day. And then I had like 35% left at the end of the day, which is just kind of like on speakers, which is sort of ridiculous. And pretty loud. Yeah. Like it was easy to find him because I could just follow the music. It's like, okay. So anyway, it feels more solid. Also they have removable backs that are going to integrate wireless charging, which takes about three times longer than non-wireless charging, but from a convenience standpoint, honestly, if it wasn't so expensive, it's the kind of thing I'd look at and go, yeah, I'll buy like three of them and then just leave like one on my work desk, one on my nightstand and one in the car. I don't know. Like somewhere where you basically just put your phone down, don't think about it. And then it's charging, which is very cool. Honestly, it's kind of criminal what they're doing with the accessories as far as the front covers go. There's one that has a window, which is neat because it uses magnets to know that that's the front cover you have on. And when you look at your phone, you can check notifications just through the window. And because it's an AMOLED screen, it doesn't have to light up the whole thing. So it just lights up that one little bit and conserves your battery. But they want an extra 20 bucks for the window version. And I'm like, really? $20 plastic window? And they're just like, well, okay. I thought it was just a cutout. I didn't even realize it was a plastic window. Oh, no, there's a plastic window. So it's like the premium cutout option. But S Translate actually works, which I was floored by. I was expecting it to be one of those like... Diesel uses it from time to time. Yep. Works phenomenally well. I did a couple test runs. I don't speak French particularly well, but I can read rudimentary French pretty well. Enough to know, oh yeah, that's what it says. Worked 100% with a couple test phrases that I did with it. The new eye tracking scroll the page thing. Does it actually work really well? You know what? It's the kind of thing where I kind of looked at it and went, oh yeah, this works. Because what it does is it locks onto your eyes and then you tilt your head like this to scroll the page. So it's the kind of thing where it takes probably about two and a half seconds to lock on. And then if you kind of go like this, your page is going to start going woo until it disengages. So I'm like, oh yeah, it works, but would I use it? No. Probably not. What else did I want to talk about? Yeah, smart scrolling, that's one. Ah yes. So the other one that was kind of like controlling it without touching the screen where I looked at it and went, really? Does this matter? Was the motion gestures. And I didn't obviously think about it enough, but it has a motion sensor in the front, which means instead of relying entirely on the front camera, which would be a huge battery hog, you can gesture at the camera, say for example if you're in a meeting, you can turn on a gesture where you put your hand over it and you kind of use the force and it comes up with a little thing that tells you if you have any missed calls or missed messages or whatever else. So being, I mean, okay, there's other gestures like you can go like this to change the track in your, actually no, no, this was a good one. I was about to make fun of this one, but this one's good. So if you're driving, you put it in a cradle on your dash and you go like this to change the song to the next track. That's cool. Oh, okay. That's kind of nice. Yeah. And there's one to answer a call. So it's one of those things where I look at it and go, okay, it's actually illegal to touch the device, at least where we live. So now you don't have to touch it. Now you don't have to touch it. You just kind of go in front of it. Woo! Woo! It's like, no officer, I was just waving at my phone. I talk with my hands. Yes. While I talk. And I was talking to myself, so I had to wave in front of my phone. Do you remember that driver that we saw today? There was this woman driving. Oh yeah. That was bizarre. What was she doing again? I don't remember. I don't know what she was doing, but she was driving her car and it's like one hand, I think on the wheel, like at the bottom of the wheel. And there are other arms like up like this. Yeah. And I'm like, what? So it kind of looked like she was either sort of conducting the music she was listening to on the radio or really getting into like an animated. Aggressive conversation because she was kind of like hidden. Yeah. On like a Bluetooth thing or something. I was like, what are you doing? You're operating a motor vehicle lady. Like this. 10 and 2, man. Just make it happen. Okay. Well, what else did I? Oh yeah. Okay. So TouchWiz is cool because it gets me away from having to use third party apps for, I mean, I think probably the big one that everyone really, really likes is the quick access to all your on and offs. And like the third party apps are cool. I'm using power toggles on my HTC one right now. And you've got a bunch of options and you can have up to eight icons across the top. But this one's kind of neat because it doesn't only control all of the standard options like Bluetooth GPS, Wi-Fi, but also things like S beam, smart stay, smart scroll, like the eye scrolling. And then smart stay is the one where it doesn't, it doesn't dim the display if you're still looking at it, all that kind of stuff. So you can turn all that on and off at will. They also include little tutorials, which I thought was cool for all of the Samsung exclusive features. Did you, I just saw something, sorry. Give me a sec guys. Hold down. Oh, you had a huge bar of options. What options? Yeah, right here. Press that thing. That's cool. Yeah. So anyway, so yeah, there's a huge, all the options that you can possibly want. There's a button on the top right and you can drop down all the options. So with, with my S3 and a whole bunch of other phones currently you have to get another app if you want to do stuff like that. Yeah. So that's cool. It comes by default. Their whole Knox thing, bring your device to work is fully supported on this one. I believe there was something that was S4 exclusive. All my notes from the meeting are upstairs, but guys expect me to do some videos on the S4 over the next little bit. I'm going to an ASUS event next week. We've got some really exciting projects we're working on for tech quickie right now that are taking up a lot of our time. Um, oh man, the one for the, if you guys are following on Twitter, you probably saw pictures of like this Frankenstein funk MS3 mouse. I think it's on the counter. It's right there. Yeah. Do you want to run and grab it? Cause it's like actually kind of awesome. Um, so, so we were working on a cool thing where the funk MS3 mouse is, uh, we're doing like the making of the funk MS3 and it's going to be kind of a, obviously a parody because no one at Linus media group is actually on the funk staff and responsible for making this mouse. But, uh, it's the first time we've ever actually brought in outside actors to come in and play roles in our videos and it's going to be super professionally done. So that's, uh, that's really, really exciting. So minor on the fly repairs. Um, she's, she's falling apart a little bit. It doesn't zoom that much. Yeah. Oh, too close. Less close. Okay. Do you want to take them on a little tour through the most, make sure you speak up because the mic behind you. All right. So I added a bunch of key caps here, just random things. Can you even see that very well? Just random things that I thought might be entirely not useful on a mouse. Um, so, so I pride these off the keyboard and just kind of stuck them to it. You can see it's literally just two sided tape. That's why I said I just had to do some minor repairs. Some of them had completely fallen off and some were kind of way off by a little bit. Oh, that fell off completely. Um, I stuck a few random capacitors on top of this on the right side of the click. And then this had a little circuit board that had a cable running back to the mouse wheel, which is kind of zombified on the back as well as another cable running along here. And then Linus and I shoved just a whole bunch more keys on this side. So there's more thumb keys here, more thumb keys here. And then this one at the bottom is actually stock and we added another key right here. So there's actually a ton of zombification on this. I wish this right here was still there because that was actually really cool. There's a little circuit board that ran a cable into the back here. That looks quite cool. I'm not sure where that went, but we were just using double sided tape for everything. So it kind of fell off. But yeah, there's our custom Linus Tech Tips edition funk mouse. So have a seat. I can't fix the focus until you're there. Take from that what you will. Um, is there anything else we can even say about that project? Um, other than the video should be awesome. Yeah, the, uh, the video will be awesome. I, uh, I was pretty amused that I had a couple people on Twitter that seemed to think that the mouse was real. Yeah. They were actually giving their feedback on it as a product like, Oh, you know, I don't know if I'd use that or, Oh man, I totally buy that. No, no, that's not an actual product. It was just, it was just a joke. I told you, you made it too real looking. Yeah. Cause I told him to make it stupid and he actually put like a bunch of stuff that was actually looked like it could possibly be useful. I was like, I was like, really? But it looks good. I know it looks good enough that people thought that it was an actual product. So that should be, that should be all you need to know. Um, we are going to move the live stream. Yeah. Yeah. So the Friday, the Friday night time slot, this will be the last one. We are moving the live stream to, um, our Monday afternoons, probably at around four o'clock. So the rationale for this is that it'll be, um, it'll be nighttime in Europe. It will be, um, kind of like evening in Eastern North America. And it will be, I believe what morning in Australia. And that is where most of our viewers come from. Um, I mean, look, I'm so, okay, for all of those of you who are not in those areas, I am incredibly sorry. Uh, but the numbers are the numbers and we do see the numbers. And so we have to go with a time slot that a works best for the majority of the viewers and B works a little better for us because honestly at the end of the week, it's pretty tough to do these Friday night, uh, late night live streams. And I'm sure he's getting, as the look on his face, he's getting destroyed in the Twitch chat right now. I'm sorry. Guys, there's nothing we can do about it to be perfectly honest. I mean, it's, um, my wife's going back to work. She's been on maternity leave with the baby, so I can't do them on Fridays anymore. Actually, like period cannot and evenings don't really work anymore. So yeah, yeah, I'm sorry guys. There's a lot of people upset in Twitch chat. I know, I know. And I totally understand. Um, but I mean, I always said this time slot was temporary and that it was going to be moved from like the very first or second one. Um, and it lasted a long time, but we will have to move it, but we will still be uploading the archives to YouTube. Speaking of YouTube, we are now activated as a Twitch YouTube networked partner. So it finally went through and that's done. So apparently that's actually like, because before, sorry, just completely jumping away from what you were just talking about. Um, last year timing in Australia is like not so good on Monday or I guess that would be Tuesday morning, right? When people go to school and work because right now it makes it Saturday morning for them. Right. Anyways, it's not like we really have a choice. I mean, yeah, we actually don't have a choice. If we could do it on a Friday, that would have been better. But the problem is that, um, you know, Slick's love life has really started to take off and all the ladies that watch our show have been lining up to get a date with him. So if you want his plenty of fish profile, now people are going to go on a wild man hunt for some plenty of fish. Yeah. And they're totally going to find it. I'm sorry, dude. I don't have one. That's what he says. You're really bad at winking. Huh? That was terrible. You're really bad at winking. We can't all be talented at everything. Oh man. I have other talents that make up for it. You wouldn't understand. I'll tell you about it when you're older. Oh God. That's horrible. Yeah, I'm sorry. So Nvidia is going to be giving away Metro Last Light with GTX 660 and up. The arms race of free video games with graphics cards is just getting pretty heated. And isn't it about time? Yeah. I mean, how long was it that we were getting like John Woo's Stranglehold and like some like racing game that no one cares about? I'm like, come on you guys, where are the AAA titles? Back then it was more like what game isn't going to sell so we don't have to worry about these people not actually buying it anyways. So we can give it to them for free and it won't reduce our sales. It won't actually matter because no one will actually care. And I'm tired of that mentality. This is great. Rewarding people for buying the hardware by giving them something to actually play. With that said, I mean Nvidia's usual MO is sort of one game bundle every quarter or so. And as much as Metro Last Light is going to be a huge title, it's going to be a really big deal. I don't really see it as that much of a response to AMD's Never Settle strategy. It's still a little bit more aggressive than some things they've done in the past. Assassin's Creed was kind of huge. Yep. Batman Arkham City, Batman Arkham Asylum, Borderlands 2. They've actually been on not a bad run. They've been ramping up. Of AAA titles. Yep. But then AMD's like. 9 times A. We'll give you 3 AAA titles. Don't worry about it. And then they're like, oh yeah, you bought some stuff before. Don't worry about Blood Dragon. It's cool. Here you go. Blood Dragon. So I mean AMD has just been crushing it when it's come to free games. Speaking of AMD, our 7990 should be in transit in theory. So hopefully we're going to have some videos for you guys at launch of 7990, which should be part of the current Never Settle, which I think includes. Is it Bioshock Infinite right now? And something. Can't remember anymore. But anyway, there you go. So Metro Last Light is going. And that's cool. So I'm going to go adjust that camera again because it sort of is funny. You're kind of there and I'm kind of here and then there's like, woo, lots of space over here. So I want to introduce our. I can also scoot. Find one of your cool topics that you supposedly contributed to the live stream. How do I even. I don't have control of this. Oh yeah, where's the thing? I always here. Of course, it's on here. This key was so small. Tiny baby hands. That's an inside joke people won't understand for a while. Judge Voet. I'm not sure how to pronounce this. Judge something held himself in contempt and paid $25 for his infraction. So basically what happened was he had a new smartphone and I started shouting out voice commands while he was holding court. And instead of being like, oh, it doesn't matter. I'm the judge. It doesn't matter. I can like I can screw other people over for that. But nope, it's fine. He held himself in contempt and charged himself $25. That's awesome. Well, that shouldn't be an anomaly. And that should actually just kind of be what happens all the time. You can you can correct yourself. It's fine. I'm leaning over. So it'll help a little bit. Yeah, thank you. It doesn't always kind of happen that way. People don't always kind of hold themselves at fault if they actually do something wrong. There's a good chance I wouldn't even think of it if I was if I was that guy. Like I just be like, oh crap, my phone. Oh, oops, bloop. Yeah, put it away. But nope, held himself in contempt, paid up $25. I think it's pretty cool. It's actually really cool. And like the Internet's in love with him. He probably gained a huge amount of respect that's worth way more than $25. Yeah, more than $25. I mean, and you like you contrast this with the millions and millions of dollars that have made their way to somewhere to get CISPA pushed through. And you just kind of looking at it going like, oh, you know, you got to I mean, it seems like there's so few people in power who actually try to play by their own rules that you just have to kind of whenever one person does it, it's like, oh, cool. Oh, yeah, doesn't happen. It's like an oddity, which it shouldn't be. But it just kind of is. But it just kind of is. So that's both awesome and depressing today. All right, what else you got? What else you got? Should we do some Twitter Q&A? Yeah, we should do. We're half an hour in. We've done zero Twitter Q&A. I'm sorry, you guys. Should we take? No, we'll talk about it later. This leads into the topic that you have. Okay, we will talk about packs in a bit. Yeah, there's apparently you know what? Let's talk about it now. Okay, so much for Twitter Q&A. So packs prime sells out fast. What was it? 20 minutes? The packs prime for the four day tickets sold out in about I don't know. I don't think anyone actually knows the actual time because of just how is there a grudge that got the tweet from from packs prime went out 23 minutes. But there's no way that they tweeted that out anywhere near the actual time. So it was probably like five, 10 minutes. After announcement that four days sold out. The final ticket was sold just under six hours after announcement. But those like, I think it was an hour after announcement. All that was left was Monday only badges. And they moved this year to four days. So it's like the last day where some people have to like go back to work and stuff. Right. It's like, yeah, that one's obviously not going to sell out as fast as the other stuff. So it's kind of ridiculous. We know nothing about media badges. We know nothing about media badges. I haven't seen anything go up about media badges. I have a badge. Cool. So slick will be doing our entire Linus media group coverage of packs prime single handedly. This will be my ninth year. I will expect you to hold the camera in front of yourself like this and be like the FS. I don't think my duck lips would really work that well. If you shaved, it might help. If I shave. It's like furry duck lips is even worse than regular duck, duck lips. Furry, furry duck lips. It's like, no, that's horrible. Come on. Let's see. Give us your best friend. Come on. You got to be a sport for the lives. I can't, I can't do it. 2200 people tuned in to watch you do furry duck lips. You know what? Twitch chat, let us know. Let us know if you'd like to see slick's furry duck lips. Do not. Ducks die. Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it. Do it, do it, do it, do it slick. Please do it, do it. Yes. Duck lips, do it, do it. Come on. Let's go. Here we go. No, I saw one no. I saw one no. That man speaks to the entirety of humanity right now. Could be a lady. That person speaks for, if it's a lady, her viewership should count more because we have less of them. That's more like fish. My laptop just turned off. I don't want you. I don't want you. Oh, what a poor sport. Anyway, so Pax Prime sold out and we have no idea what's going on as far as whether we'll be able to be there or not. So there you go. We were really expecting to at least have some information about media passes. Even Pax East this year, there was. They talked about it a lot more. I might have missed something. I've been looking for it quite a bit. I know Pax East, it was fairly transparent. I haven't seen anything yet about Pax Prime. If you have seen something, please message me on the forum so we can figure that out. Sure. Yeah. Let us know. Because I totally might have missed something. Okay. Here we go. Apparently Northern Lion LP and Linus Tech will be streaming at the same time on Mondays. I'm sorry to hear that. That's bad. We might have to look into this live stream time more. Yeah. I mean, we haven't completely decided. It's just that looks like the time that will actually work for us. We can't do late Friday nights anymore. That is not actually a possibility. That's done. Done. As of this. So next Friday, there won't be a live stream at all. Next week, there won't be a live stream at all. And the following week, we will kick off our new live stream time. At whatever time it is. We'll try and figure something out right now, though it's looking like Monday. Robert says, first time watching a live stream live because of the nut job on the loose. Yeah. Well, no. I heard these. I thought he's in custody. Yeah. Last I heard he was on a boat and they were chasing him. So there's no way he got that far. Yeah. I saw a headline that said one dead, one in custody. But I could be wrong. I mean, I think there's been a lot of conflicting reports. So hopefully you guys won't. You guys won't sort of. Twitch chat says they got them. Yeah. Okay. They got them and good. Oh, he was hiding in the boat. Oh, okay. So they weren't chasing his boat. They just found his boat. Yeah, that's good. Be in a boat, but don't move the boat. It's very smart. I mean, that's this. These are the kinds of people who blow up innocent people because they're obviously brilliant. Glad they caught them at any rate. You know, go internet and all of the, you know, data analysis that went on. I don't know if it ever led to anything, but Reddit had a huge thing going on on the. Pretty massive. They had more. They had like a few. It was kind of cool. Yeah. Chris Goham asks, should I build a gaming rig now or wait till E3? Well, there won't be anything new at E3. So make of that what you will. Mind you, Haswell is going to be launching around that time. Is that what he means for, oh, maybe he doesn't mean for announcements. Maybe he means new games. Maybe he means new games. I mean, there's lots of new games now. Lots of games to play right now. So if you're waiting for new games, wait till November. Yeah, but don't wait till November to buy a PC. It's like five months. Honestly, I would just. There won't be new graphics cards between now and the end of the year in all likelihood unless it's late in Q4. If you've got something good, I would wait till Haswell. If you're dying, I would just get something now. Just get something now. From what we've seen, Haswell is not going to be some kind of, you know, Conroe thing where it's like, we go from like dark ages, computing power to way more. I mean, if you, I mean, honestly, it's one of those things where you can kind of look at it logically and go, OK, you look at Intel's die diagram of it and go, all right, well, the actual CPU die area didn't increase, but it's got like a really big graphics core now. So if you're planning to use the onboard graphics on Haswell, then wait for Haswell. If you're not, then. It'll still be a little bit better, but it's probably not worth the wait. It's better than playing on a console. Yeah. Speaking of consoles. Except for Super Nintendo. Yeah, except for Super Nintendo, which we still have to do. That is my ultimate segue of the night into the next gen Xbox. I don't know much about it, but I know you need some add on for retroactively playing games. So there's a, oh, oh, fire it up there and we're going to do our new thing. Oh, I'll fire it up there. I was like, how am I supposed to do this? Speaking of fired, you're fired. For what? For not firing it up. I don't know. I had no ability to do that. I'm on a segue roll. Get in a segue roll. Yeah. That's a really high pitch. One, okay, that segue was fine. Segueing into fire me. You have no grounds to fire me for that. Segue roll though. Come on. That was awesome. That was terrible. That was awesome. Oh, this is the wrong one. That's not the one I want. I want the, ah, yes. I want the VR zone rumor. Okay. So, hey, hey, go, go, go. Okay. So, uh, VR zone is claiming that the new Xbox 720 will be requiring you to play the game. Okay. So, hey, hey, go, go, go. Okay. So, uh, VR zone is claiming that the new Xbox 720 will be requiring you to play the game. Okay. So, hey, hey, go, go, go. Okay. So, hey, hey, go, go, go, go. Okay. Go, go go go. Okay. So, hey, hey, go, go, go. Okay, so, hey, go, go. Go, go go go. Okay, so, hey, Go!, then don'tated jump through the screen. Go, go, go, go, go. Okay. Okay. And I have been saying that for a while now that I'm, you know, a golden noob when I talk. kinds of tops at the board here. Okay, so oh, okay, bad news here. What do you think? I don't know. I don't really care Dedicate okay, okay. Imagine that you cared imagine that you actually were gonna spend 150 bucks. Yeah, it's 150 bucks 150 bucks, so it's basically a lot of money That's kind of brutal. Okay, it should be able to play backwards compatible like it's that shouldn't be a do you mean? I should though. This is an x86 architecture. It's Completely different from the Xbox 360. Okay, that actually does kind of makes it's not like Oh, I'm upgrading from Windows Vista. So basically so basically it would increase the bomb cost by so much Yes That it would be nice to have it cheaper for everyone and then if you do actually want to play backwards compatible stuff You can add that if you do actually want to play old games and you don't actually already have an Xbox 360 Which is kind of funky if you won't play old games. You probably already got nice bus three six I mean, yes I understand the convenience factor of not wanting to press a button on your receiver to switch the HDMI input But from my perspective trading value from trading in your old Xbox That's true. That's true. You don't get trade in value mind you it's cheap enough at 150 bucks to me It looks like they're not taking a bunch of margin I suspect what's actually inside it if this rumor turns out to be true is basically just an Xbox 360 Because it couldn't cost much more than 150 bucks to basically build an Xbox 360 now one thing don't scream anymore I don't think attenuation is working. Oh, everyone was like, oh god my ears. Sorry about that So I don't think Where was I? Xbox 360 something something something one thing how much how much resale value do you think you could get for trading in a Xbox 360? I have no idea because if you could get like a hundred hundred bucks If it's a hundred bucks just trade it in and buy the thing, right? So it's one of those things where I look at anything You know what? It's not a bad solution because if you're giving that so what it'll do is it'll make it so you don't have to Okay, I've rumored allegedly it'll make it so that you don't have to have two separate HDMI connections out So it's kind of like a pass-through which will lead us to our next thing so you can play your older games and you can not have two boxes and you can unload your old Xbox 360 and because What I suspect they're doing is they're basically just putting a small Xbox 360 in it The compatibility should be better than a kludgy solution like what Sony implemented with the ps3 originally, right? Is this? Okay, I might not be ready for this Xbox 720 always on right? That's rumored to be not necessarily true. It's actually in this same article Okay on a VR zone, but I mean everything's very much up in the air right now So the latest rumor will require a separate add-on may cost a few gold coins However, the something something something yet The rumor is that it will not require an always on internet connection to play games locally, but we'll see And more importantly Microsoft probably won't be blocking the playing of used games on the new console Which we will see about I have no idea how true any of that is if that's not true If it is always on so we're taking some Kind of leaps and bounds here, which might not ever happen If the add-on thing inherited the always on yes, then that would be terrible. That would be brutal I'd want my old Xbox 360 back exactly, but this is very possibly Not even worth talking about so whatever so speaking of pass-through The verge had an interesting article about Microsoft's plans for the next generation Xbox taking over your TV is sort of their their the sensational half of their Otherwise not that sensational headline because interact with your cable box is probably more like what it actually sounds like they're planning to do So similarly to Google TV your cable box would go Um hdmi out into your xbox which would then pass through to your TV now It's going to depend on Microsoft having relationships with the content providers to even be allowed to circumvent whatever Hdcp whatever else is going on with the hdmi signal, but the plan is to inject a layer on top That would be something like it could be marketplace. It could be a more advanced guide and listings for tv shows It could be additional content netflix. Whatever else it'll inject on top Of what you're already getting with your set top box. I mean, I'm I suspect a lot of it will only work in the us Particularly at launch but yeah I mean could something like this make the xbox part of your living room even though you have no use for a console from a game's perspective I don't watch tv Yeah, what do you do I play video games and I program and I Don't have any time because I work so much right? Okay, fair enough The other thing that microsoft's looking at is how to make the connect make the living room experience more engaging so things like being able to Track multiple people at a time being able to track eye movements. So if one person looks away movie paused Which is the kind of thing where I Okay, hold on. Hold on could be like settings though. Who knows how advanced the next generation connect is So maybe the next gen connect is so advanced. I can go only positive. I walk away Yeah, well that would seriously be a thing because like your sister is sitting on the couch and goes Uh looks at her phone and my movie is like well I don't want my movie to pause and my immersion to be destroyed and my I thought you don't watch movies I watch I said I don't watch tv watch movies Oh So much trolling so the immersion level being reduced Everything it just destroys the whole experience pausing a movie sucks Everything about pausing a movie sucks. Well, except when you're the one who has to pee Then you should have gone beforehand. Sometimes you drink a lot of beverages during the movie Water today over a span of about an hour and a half and then in between like every shot Well, okay, he was like, oh I have to go to washroom. You're exaggerating not by a lot There was two shots in between there. All right, what's our next topic? I guess if you if you add the tape, yeah shots because we don't count takes you only count shots Okay Well, uh moving on to some more twitter q a no, there will not be a live stream on this coming monday great question And it's too close to this one. I don't think it makes sense. It'll have been like three days and it'll have been a weekend What do we possibly expect to have happened? Why will it not be on saturday or sunday? What what what what? Streams down. Why is the stream down? I am so sick of windows live movie maker like cutting this thing together. It takes so long What the actual hell is going on here? It's back up. Hello. Apparently we're back Hello So hold on. Let me just check the x-split recordings. Let's see if it uh, if it split it apart 233 megs Apparently it didn't split apart. So there you go. I have no idea what happened there That's someone telling you that streams down. Yeah, i'm sure it is Uh someone else that i'm going to be blocking on my phone after android's awesome. It has a block feature So all I had to do to uh to get rid of any of the people who were calling or texting my phone was just click block And then I actually don't hear from them anymore. So we were worried that we'd have to change his number because he got Yeah, I don't know Because he got yeah trolled, but I don't I actually it was just a few people that were obnoxious and they're all blocked And so I think who knows they might still be trying to call but I don't even know so Yeah, there you go. Um question here. Why will it not be on saturday sunday? Because we do have lives and he has a baby guys like Like sacrificing my time is one thing You're not actually at this point. I don't even care about sacrificing his time I don't care about his time at all. You're sacrificing his baby's time, man So yeah, i'm not a fan of babies. Some people might know that but as a dad you still need to spend time with your baby So so yeah, I actually work monday to friday and I actually work a lot more than 40 hours a week outside of the live stream So i'm actually not going to be doing it on a saturday or sunday So, I mean, thank you for the suggestion, but that is actually not going to happen Uh, when do we get to see the new offices? We're not going to be moving for a couple months I think it's like 3 to 4 am in southeast asia. Sorry um One thing that we can do I haven't pitched this to lancet at all So this could be interesting is we can grab all the time slots that are a possibility Throw them in a poll on the forum sure this won't happen now Oh god, of course you're getting spammed. That's okay. I'll just shut them all off after and then block them Yeah, and then i'll just block it. Um, it's not going to happen now I'm not going to do it now. So don't zerg rush the forum now. Don't bring it down yet. We'll save that for build logs um Uh, but sometime this weekend maybe after the stream or something i'll jump on or linus will jump on We'll make a poll in the forum news section or general Sure, you'll see it because i'm sure tons of people will post in it and we'll post all the time slots that are even possible For us to do And then let people vote sure Um, someone asks about south america. Aren't we important? You guys are in the same time zone as us What do you want and everyone's important we just like honestly Baby, like I said before Uh, if you're gonna use the s4, how about the android 30-day trial? I'm gonna finish out the htc1 30-day trial the s4 demo unit I got has its own sim in it so I can play around with it without interfering with the 30-day trial Uh, some cars are coming out with integrated wireless charging put the phone on a certain place on the dash and it chargers That's very cool. That is really cool. And that'll probably be one of those sticky pad slots, too Very very very maybe uh, you know that thing diesel keeps talking about every once in a while where it can project uh Images onto your windshield Yeah for like gps Maybe they'll have the wireless charging and sticky pad right where that is that would be so awesome That would like actually be the sweetest thing ever. I don't know a lot about this If you want to know more about it tweet diesel the intern He'll talk to you about it. Yeah, he he knows he knows all the things. I i'm pretty sure he follows every news show I swear his room must have more monitors than mine and mine has a lot and they must just like multiple reddit pages Like every single news show that's actually casting right now every reddit page. Oh Oh check this out. I did it when you weren't looking we have okay So someone uh, someone helped me capture slick's duck face Oh, I thought I was gonna get away with that. Uh, yeah, you actually actually didn't hold on a second Hold on a second. Is that even actually a duck? Hold on. I gotta share this with I gotta share this with everyone Just a sec. Just a sec. Hold on I don't even i'm not even gonna look hi twitch chat Add screen region. Let's just add this whole screen. So also it's lagging So there's pretty much no point in you doing this because it's lagging so much. There we go So there you guys have it. That is slick's epic Duckface boom. You just dropped it Just dropped what the stream I think how could it possibly go down? Oh, no, they're all just laughing at me. There we go But it's lagging like crazy All right, let's see Yeah, all right You look fantastic. This is this is why we like you because you're awesome All right, so let's go back for those of you who weren't with us earlier I challenged slick to uh To to to give us his best duck face So uh stream will keep on lagging for 20 seconds or even go offline for a minute or two In what situation? We I don't know Uh, seriously guys get a camera slider your advert video. We have a slider We have slider shots in the seagate wireless plus video We have slider shots in the upcoming video. We have a slider Hello from toronto. It's late here. How high do motherboard manufacturers prioritize the itx segment of the market quite high what? Itx yeah since when there won't be anything at launch Yeah But they still support it. Yeah, they still support. Well, I mean asus has a high end itx board Which is like beasts gigabytes itx board doesn't overclock Doesn't overclock Still it's itx asus's one is boss asus's one is like bees and there's a few other that are really nice Yeah for a weird subcategory like that. That's pretty supported This is driving me crazy, what is it? There oh what if I sit up? No. No, it doesn't matter. It's all good. It's just that it was uh, well now my head's cut off Well, that's okay because diesel explained to me that it's okay to cut off someone's head as long as you don't cut off their chin Oh, yeah Zombies or something i'm gonna go back to leaning because i like that more anyways Uh, okay. What were we talking about? Well, yeah, we were doing twitter q a I hey you guys like the g7 10 plus. Yes It's nice and one thing that pretty much no one knows is it comes with black o-rings under the keycaps. Yeah, very cool Which is like an aftermarket mod type thing. They're not going to be able to see that Oh little little o-rings under every keycap that make it quieter By the way, don't just pull your keycaps off do it with a proper key. Yeah. Yeah. Why are you? What are you doing, man? What what what? I just wanted to give a shout out to your forums. They helped me pick upgrades to improve my stream great community Awesome. Thanks miles and hopefully you continue to go there while we transition to better forums because currently they suck. Yeah That's not no, no, it's okay. I hope it's coming soon. It's good. It's hopefully coming soon Uh ps4 is only going to be able to play ps3 stuff only through the cloud not on the console itself So if you have not very good internet, which is i'm sure what this viewer meant to say um, there you go interesting speaking of ps4 and uh streaming games over the internet, let's talk about that sony thing Oh Okay, where is this? Let's pull up the thing right right right I believe japan is rolling out two gigabit Internet which will bring fiber directly to your house and then each house will need its own Something box that I don't remember the name of that will convert the fiber to onu box that will convert the fiber to proper Ethernet so this was a news story submitted on the linus tech tips forum by vrb 747 and the the most obvious question that i've heard from people is what could anyone possibly need two gigabit internet for? most computers these days come with a one gigabit connection in the back to which I would reply well guys Lots of households have more than one computer now So your winks are horrible you're so bad Anyways It's like you don't have to wait with your whole face. I can't otherwise Oh, really? Yeah, I legit can't. Oh, yeah, I have like a condition. Oh, it's called not able to wink itis It's the only way I can sorry mike that was probably really loud So, um, so anyway, so vrb 747. Thank you for contributing that to the new section of the linus tech tips forum guys Do check out the new section. It's gotten to the point where I think over the last month or so traffic in that section has about 10x Next which is uh, which is outstanding because it's turning the linus tech tips forum into a great place to go to Check out the latest news by the way, it goes in the tech news and reviews section not the forum news We should probably clarify that at some point I'm probably going to lock off forum news clarify it like better make it so that people can't create new topics because Realistically, you're just supposed to be commenting on topics that are already there, right? But that'll probably be if you changed it to forum forum news and announcements or something like that so that it's more clear Maybe okay. We'll figure it out. But that section is not actually for news From the random community. That is only for for me. I'm not done talking about two gigabit internet So basically sony is going to be bringing fiber right into your house Um for the low cost of what are they charging 50 bucks a month? 50 or 60 or something 50 or 60 bucks a month, which I saw a few people in the twitch chat go like oh But it's that expensive man We pay that much for like not low end cool internet like 15 megabit down. What is it 512k up or 1 meg up? It's it's might be 512k up. I think for like the 60 plan on sha. Yeah, so like that's Incredible depends where you live. Maybe you have a better situation. Here's the question Not so much. Let's continue our conversation from last week Would you cut off a toe for two gigabit internet for a toe? Which toe? Um, pinky toe. Yes middle toe Do you even need that one? Don't think so. Would you cut off a middle toe like would okay? Hold on. I'm gonna make it gruesome though. Would you like consciously without numbing cut off your middle toe? What if it was free for the rest of your life? But then that won't be that high performance, but you'll be high performance for an awful long time Two gigabit internet on fiber is going to be low latency and high performance for a very long time Would it scale to would it scale let's say it scales it scales probably say it scales You would cut off your middle toe. Is there a band with cap? You would look at it. Is there a bandwidth cap? Bandwidth cap, let's say no Maybe I might chicken out like um, like like you have to use like bolt cutters Bolts. Really? Yeah, why are you making this so horrible? It has to be gruesome. Why does it have to be gruesome? But like just hold on. No, no, just just but okay. There's there's a there's trained medical staff next to you ready to go Would they put me out right after I do it? Because i'm pretty sure you put someone under if their toe is missing. I don't think so. Really? Yeah, why? They'd probably just locally uh, because you might go into shock Local anesthetic, okay, whatever they're gonna do whatever they need to do. I'm not a medical professional I don't know not at all. So don't listen to me, but bolt cutters on the toe Would you do it for 2 gig internet now at scale? See I would like to say yes right now but honestly, I think a lot of people say yes outside of situations and if you actually sat them down in like Here are the bolt cutters. I will go get the bolt cutters. You'd probably have me in a barn in like a Metal chair in like the most gruesome creepy situation. You're making this sound really bad You'd probably why would I have you in a barn in a metal chair? Okay. What why'd you have to take it there? Why did you take it there? No, no, you're I meant like I meant like uh, what's his name? I said there's medical professionals. Would you like to play a game? What's what's his would you like to play a game? That's his tagline. There's multiple movies Chucky no, I don't know. I've never seen a horror movie more recent. Maybe my I don't know horror movies saw Saw twitch chat knows twitch chat knows everything chat does know everything actually saw saw have you you've heard of saw right? I've heard of never seen like to play a game Yeah, it's all creepy and all messed up I feel like you would have that weird creepiness messed up factor But you'd get two gig of an internet out of it But I think by the time I sat down I might I might chicken out But I would like to say yes now I think there's a one-time fee to actually get it into your house. That's probably pretty brutal, which is probably pretty brutal But I mean that's sort of that's sort of life. I think you have to subsidize stuff like this a little bit I think we're an awful long way away from canada reaching this level of internet connectivity But the reason I did segue into this is that this level of internet two gigabit per second low latency fiber It would be capable of streaming games It's coming but the place that has always had the fastest internet has it and nowhere else has it and it's going to take So long for other places to transition, but you look at look at companies like nintendo and sony these japanese companies How many cares do they give exactly that only japan can use a lot of the technology they build? Yeah None yeah zero so that means there will be customers for nvidia's grid technology Which is their cloud-based gaming uh, so remote gaming service So there will be customers There will be grids being deployed. It will be a real thing very soon. I'm interested to see how many massive outages there are Because it doesn't matter at all what backend you have Every single big launch in so long has had failure launches because no servers can support it Okay, well would it be any different though? Already it is then it's gonna be worse you think so Ah Apparently there's a people coming home so a fairly large group of randoms just pulled up Um, but it's it's way more server power because they have to do all the graphics rendering on their end right? That's not that won't affect network Doesn't matter the server backbone will not be able to do it All right Well nowhere even close like the graphics power to power all that is gonna be nuts how few people are gonna have two gigabit connections though Are those people gonna overpower? I think there'll be a slow ramp. They'll have time of japan They're gonna have time to build like 40 super computers on top of each other It's gonna be nuts I think I think we're far from it like very far from it because of graphics power You and I can agree to disagree on this one. The network backbone is definitely there You're right, but graphics power for all those people is gonna be a huge problem It's gonna be nuts because people are gonna be like, okay, i'm playing at like five frames per second. This is retarding Pay more get more frames. Oh Wow free to play But when you connect it's super slow. So you suck or when you connect it plays at like 480p Or like 320p right and then you upgrade to a premium account to make it look bad Or like an uber premium account to get more graphics horsepower and then maybe maybe it's you're actually accessing the server So you pay like monthly fees based on how good you want your connection to be And you get to play all your games at that rate. It's coming They'll they'll they'll do tons of stuff. They'll do tons of stuff. It will scale It will be just like the most bizarre head turning thing ever. That would really help Them manage the graphics power. It would help them manage the graphics power and network. Yeah, of course both of them And they could just be like lol 260p 480p exactly And for some games it wouldn't matter we tennis who cares? Yeah. Yeah Okay, so here's a big thing foxcon. Oh, I forgot to put down the link for this one. Okay. Well Crap, I forget where I saw this link but foxcon has settled with microsoft over android licensing fees so this is fascinating because the rumor has it that the uh, Because microsoft's already settled with a couple guys and the rumor has it that microsoft is extracting as much as ten dollars or more per android device Um in license software licensing fees, how many cares does microsoft give about windows phone 8 at that point? Honestly, I mean i'm sure they care they care but like oh yeah, you guys are making phones good job Good job because we're up to uh, what was the new number one billion total android devices shipped to date Was it was it today? I thought they said they were going to ship a billion this year Okay, it's I don't think it's going to be a billion this year. That's a lot. I don't remember what it was Anyway, something to do with go something to do with a billion and something to do with about over half of android devices are apparently Being tacked on with microsoft licensing fees according to a microsoft rep. So there's that So if they sell another billion within a much shorter period of time looking at the way sales are ramping Microsoft will be collecting exactly that many billions of dollars just for sitting on their butts watching android outsell everything else I've had i've had people say One billion by the end of the year and i've had people say One billion to this date and i've had more than one person say though 1.5 million activations a day a day Which is nuts Wow, because that means what microsoft's getting 15 million dollars a day for not making things Oh, that's so balling well no less than that because they were saying more than half So let's say seven and a half million dollars a day still for not actually making anything. That's awesome No rnd that they haven't already done years ago Right, um no tooling of the device. Do they care if they don't sell surface because they um Microsoft was actually this tied into one of our other topics from last week Which was um the report that the pc was dead an ipad was killing it and pc sales were down 14 percent And then a report came out this week that microsoft's profits were up something like 14 or 17 or something like that Uh, I can't remember. I don't we don't have it in there. I don't think it ever made it to our stream. Um outline But i'm kind of looking at it going. Yeah I don't think they actually mind if not too many copies of windows 8. So so just like uh Microsoft will survive. That's something we've learned. They'll be fine. They're figuring it I mean they're figuring out content distribution with things like the xbox music store They're figuring out gaming in a way that I think sony kind of forgot Um, so they're figuring out that they're figuring out finally. I mean they tried with media center pc that was 2002 XP media center. No, no, the pc will be an integral part of the home Living room environment here. We are over 10 years later and it looks like the next gen xbox might actually Finally get there But they've been determined that they're gonna do it So they're finally getting to that point. I'm not worried for microsoft media center pc was pretty cool But like how many people did you know that had one? Right, so one right yourself two two my parents And my then girlfriend's parents so it's because that my bill for them, right? That's pretty much the same experience that I had Whatever man, it's like places that I put it in And that's the only places I knew it existed places that I put it in and then went and helped them fix it over and over and over again Yeah, oh I gotta restart it again. Oh it's windows We should do what time is it we should do the rest of our community news items. Yeah community news items Here we go. So for those of you who haven't seen this, this is friggin awesome. Why don't you uh, why don't you He uh, why don't you do this one joe zee from the forum posted? um The the xbit labs article about the 7990 malta being available through ebay sale it is prohibited To sell engineering sample items on ebay and just in general. It's just not really okay Um, so here i'll let you take over i'm just gonna go find out who that is at the house Uh, that's probably not a bad idea before all of our stuff goes missing and we can't make videos anymore Anyways, so this guy puts up a 7990 malta on ebay and expects it to actually work or He's trolling. I'm not really sure either. He's he's an idiot or he thought it would be funny I think that's really all that is left to that. Um, but yeah, it got up to how much let me check this really quick Guy on the forum mentioned it 96100 dollars From ip changer or charger. That's that's insane I brought that up with linus earlier and he mentioned that it was probably someone trolling. They weren't actually gonna pay that much I don't know. I think that might have been legitimate which is terrible because even if you make a review of it or anything You're not going to make back anywhere close to that amount of money Like nowhere even remotely close to that amount of money not even Not even on the same scale like you couldn't weigh those against each other And the funny thing is unless you're a reviewer unless you have some kind of a hookup. You can't get drivers for it Yeah You actually won't be able to run it until the embargo lifts I would hope that that guy would at least give you a driver with this Maybe it ships with a usb drive with a drive. I have one Um, no, no, usually they don't you've seen how they distribute the no, I know through yeah through like an ftp But you could download it put it on usb drive and ship it with your 96,000 dollar graphics card. I mean it must have been a joke. I think you could give the guy freaking a flash drive for his 96,000 dollars speaking of engineering samples We are officially has welled up We can't put them on anything yet. Yeah, we don't have a motherboard yet Speaking of not having the drivers to run the hardware. We don't have the motherboard. Yay. Look, it's a chip and the top is kind of silvery colored Uh Lower power Yeah You know how many times i've done this where i've just been like holding the new cpu knowing that actually I can't do anything with it It's like every generation the chip always arrives first The asus thing that i'm going to should hopefully have some details on their side But so far I haven't heard anything solid from any motherboard guys. I think msis got boards lined up for us Uh gigabyte said they're gonna do their best to have boards lined up for us So we have all the haswells actually that's one of the four that arrived in the mail for us. People are saying Open it, but Like these ones are so boring. They're white box. You guys. I mean, what what do you want here? Hold this for a sec. Sorry um I got you twitch chat Yeah, don't worry. We're on this. Okay. Here we go haswell This particular one is a 4670k There you go It comes with uh Oh my goodness a stock stunning A stock cooler that looks exactly like thermal compound Amazing pre-applied revolutionary cool your face put on your face. Oh lame. I got it on my face No, you didn't. That's all right. Is it is it okay? It's all right. Okay, cool. Um, so there's that Yes, okay. What's next? It's revolutionary. I know this changes everything. This changes absolutely everything again uh Changes the changes again the changes are changing on in a logarithmic Fashion the innovation is amazing chip Beautiful pads on the revolutionary. I think this is all low time. It doesn't change How many times have we seen this that's been done the spec for a while? Oh That's probably a pretty solid indicator. It's down Oh This is frustrating last time it just revived itself so we can uh Maybe the the epicness of haswell people were saying intel was like nope Yeah, the epicness of apparently we're back. So the epicness of haswell just destroyed the live stream Because some employee at intel was like smash laying the hammer down there like control all of the internet um But yeah, we've seen this time and time again. It never actually changes We're talking a couple percent here and there this chip has been finished for months essentially Let me put it that way Like the kinds of tweaks that they're making in the months leading up to a launch Remember intel sets a launch date like an actual day Like months in advance. How could they know that it's going to be ready that day because intel is not like Like some you know cheesy software company with two letters in their name that starts with e and ends in a where they're just like Release date if it's not ready release it anyway intel does qa like We're never gonna get ea sponsorship ever We gave up on that a long time ago. It's just over and done with at this point Maybe if they sent us a pizza with our next game Um But anyway, I mean it's been done for months which basically means that um The chip that they're testing is pretty much done And it also means that whatever board which has pretty much no logic left on it Now that the chip itself is integrating the pci express controller the memory controller The vrm the voltage regulation modules, which was part of our topic last week that we skimmed over a little bit that i'm going to launch Into here. Um, there's not a whole lot that the motherboard actually contributes to the performance anymore besides just providing a conduit for Traces to go to like the memory slots um So speaking of haswell there was an ama on reddit a number of months back where an intel engineer said it would be an overclockers delight and I think a lot of people Assumed that that would mean that unlike ivy bridge because sandy bridge was a great overclocker ivy bridge had better performance per per megahertz Then sandy bridge did but it didn't overclock as high so they ended up being for all intents and purposes for overclockers Equally performing platforms. I think a lot of people assumed that that meant haswell was going to overclock like a bat out of hell again But what he might have actually meant is that due to the integrated vrm you're going to be able to buy a cheapo motherboard And you're going to be able to get the same kind of overclocking performance as an expensive motherboard, which by the way Two motherboards running two chips at the same frequency I don't care what board it is are going to be within Margin of error of each other in terms of performance when it comes to overclocking Increasing the system performance it only does it if you can get more gigahertz a trend that we've been seeing lately That you actually picked out a while ago Is that people are building really really high-end systems, and they don't want to put a ton of cards in them Because they're just going graphics card. Oh, it looks good. I don't want to touch it I'm not more cards you leave it how it is. I don't know. No. I don't want to touch it Yeah, Linus, and I always put in sound cards, and he's got a raid card He's a card with eight SSDs on it, and I'm just like yes my cable management isn't perfect But you know what I actually have hardware in my machine like we enjoy putting hardware in our machines so Wow so anyways I'm I'm wondering I wondered I can't even talk now that was ridiculous I wonder with has well if we're going to see a lot more Card heavy machines cheap motherboard throwing a custom Nick throw a custom sound card By it by a 119 99 board by a proper sound card by a proper I don't know like what I like I mean SSDs are at the point now where the onboard Controllers are not able to keep up with multiple SSDs So if people want to actually get the most performance possible out of their storage system They may need a third-party raid controller speaking of which for the longest time people would ask me is there any benefit to read zeroing SSDs and Having run everything from a hard drive to a cached solution to an SSD to a better SSD to a better SSD to an 8 SSD array in my personal machine over the years I would always tell them actually no it really doesn't make any difference. I was wrong because I mean, okay Yes, it makes a difference in benchmarks that much is clear, but I've had people ask me day to day Do you notice a difference and I didn't notice when I upgraded to my 8 SSD raid zero array And it didn't bother me that much when my personal rig was down for a long time and I wasn't using it But now that I'm back on it. I'm like, oh Yeah, it actually makes a difference. I watched some some program openings that were kind of ridiculous Like if he runs a fairly decent SSD, you've got an octane 256, right? Which is not the best SSD in the world But it's good. It's a SATA 3 SSD. It's not a bad drive But it's just like it's it's the responsiveness I didn't realize what was missing until it was taken away and then I was giving it back and I'm like, oh, okay, right this This is good. Speaking of which my personal rig is a hundred percent up and running now. The only thing I'm missing is cosmetic I'm missing the glass panel for the side window and then I'm also missing Little grommets to cover things with what do you think? I can't turn on right now. That's not my personal rig The RAM is oh no. No, I put G skill RAM in it. Oh Yeah, and when you finally bring the server back from NCIX, I will be able to deck it out That's doing good things right now. Yeah, I know. Okay. I just need that RAM for my rig all 64 gigs of it. There's 48 in there. Yeah, but I have 16. Okay in my in my rig right now. So yeah, bam I was like what? bam We're what were we talking about? Oh, yeah, we wanted to do the rest of the news items. So here's our here's our next rumor So this one looks pretty interesting. We're gonna Hopefully we actually what's going on? Oh, there it is Oh, well funky we actually know nothing about this. Yeah, but good bites Contributed this news topic Wow 800 good bites contributes a lot to the news section. Thank you. Good bites. Thank you Good bites. You are the man or lady person guy dude Dude is kind of both No one says do debt. Yeah That's where people also say guys. Yeah. Hey guys reference to entire groups of people So good good bites is one of good guys one of several good guys regardless of gender And I mean, you know what? Hey genders not so much just like an on-off switch anymore There's that sort of that whole gender spectrum discussion. So good bites good Individual good human or even multiple people. I mean Schizophrenia is a thing good good Organic organism or you're a great organism. Okay, let's settle on that from now on. Okay, I'm technically right I Think so because he could be multiple organisms if he has a parasite inside him. Yeah Anyway, what is politically correct? You're talking about this anyways, so it is releasing some new GPUs allegedly allegedly We actually have no idea the first I heard of this was actually good bites post. So so According to the post it won't be Maxwell next generation But rather a refresh of the Kepler series which makes sense because like everyone else You know Nvidia seems to follow that Intel tick-tock strategy where it's Process shrink architecture change process shrink architecture change So we've got Kepler now maybe a process shrink reduction of heat and power consumption Maybe some more overclocking headroom some bug fixes some performance improvements, which all makes sense for process shrink all in all I'd expect a GTX 780 to be 10 to 15 percent better than a 680 just guessing but maybe 20% better Maybe it overclocks a little better. Maybe it's lower power consumption. All this makes sense however Go ahead the main thing I'm hoping for is no plastic extensions Yeah, no one full PC no ego extensions on them. You know, what's funny is have you seen a reference 7790? Because we didn't have a reference one when you were doing your testing I have not actually it has a long PCB but like two inches of it or just blank Honestly, I still rather that I'd rather a PCB than then a plastic extension But it's still like oh So what I'm hoping if this does turn out to be Nvidia strategy is that? someone launches a completely new architecture Because AMD as far as I know has been talking about the end of this year Something going on. That's another rumor. Allegedly. We don't actually know for sure But if they launched a completely new architecture that could put Nvidia at a bit of an advantage for the next few months, but then at a bit of a disadvantage in the in the months following that I mean, especially if AMD can launch something in time for Here's an article on it on PC per by the way. There's the fudzilla link so we can go check that out I mean fudzilla take it all with a grain of salt. It's fudzilla Yeah, I actually met Fuad for the first time at CES 2013. Really? Yeah, I ran into him. He's super soft-spoken I was surprised Yeah, I was I was hanging out with Josh from fractal. Oh cool and uh, and Fudo knows him apparently they go way back So they were talking that makes sense. Um, Fudo didn't had no idea who I was. Of course, so I was like, okay It's like one of those things. It's like I get pulled over by the car. Do you even know who I am? I'm Linus tech tips from YouTube You can't give me a ticket. I make videos on YouTube. Yeah, exactly Don't you know what internet famous means? I walked through a Forest once and chugged hot sauce. Oh, that was painful That was by the way, the red bottle was hot sauce and he actually did it was like, you know It would have been smart to put something else inside it Did not think of that Legit did not think of that So we've got two more very important items coming up These are going to be our featured build logs of the week. So slick take it away Desert storm desert storm is the first one we are not logged in So why don't you talk about desert storm while I log us in desert storm is an awesome tribute to just picking the right color scheme parts and like Envisioning your build before you do it and then sleeve your power supply properly and just having something that looks So much more than some of its parts without putting Like way too much into it So this is a like great looking computer looks absolutely awesome. Hopefully linus can actually log in so I can stop Installing stalling for time as I talk about how the computer looks good. There we go So he picked like a desert stormy kind of color scheme. Yeah, i'm gonna zoom out a little bit That actually looks better zoomed out there we go, so everything kind of suits It all looks good. You can tell it was planned out beforehand Nice, uh, tough tough series board selection tough series board the right color vengeance Corsair vengeance memory looks good. That's great looking sleeving that he's got on there or she mdpcx. Yep I wouldn't mind seeing things a little bit tidier in here, but honestly mine's not much better So I can't and it's still pretty good can't criticize too much. I noticed that too actually, but it's still it's not bad It's not bad at all. I mean at least it's sleeved But uh, you can you can get a little bit of a better look at it I mean at least it's sleeved but uh, you can you can get your groupings a little bit tighter than that Great job on the sleeving. Look how even that is Yeah, it's it's not quite as good on the power supply, but people won't see that really Yeah, mine's ghetto on the power supply just because it doesn't really matter. Yeah Yeah, so you can see it's a little bit more choppy there but As we both said earlier doesn't matter. He's got some really nice photos. I really like that one this one this one Very cooler master v8 looks really cool cooler master v8. I don't think gets enough credit. No, it's very cool looking It performs. All right, it's not a bad heat sink But it really suits this build as well because it's kind of there we go. There's the money shot Yeah, so he so he he must have planned it out. He must have envisioned it beforehand He picked the right parts. He sleeved his power supply. It just looks really good Yeah, this is the kind of build that is very doable for you know, someone building a new rig that I mean Obviously you need a bit of a budget to make over here like that But it's not one of those crazy like you have to own your own like water cutter To me like sold your house and bought a few machines and some tools and some parts and built a computer so It's it's which we're not saying is a problem. No, not at all. Of course. That's yeah, that's why I don't have any not at all Except my computer's not that great This one is just Nuts the psychedelic machine it's called it's nuts. I i'm gonna let it kind of speak for itself Once we get down here a little bit So he's picking some parts xs pc displays. Okay. Yeah, so he's just installing lighting there And this is car lighting that he just adapted into molex plugs. Okay, that's doable. It's just 12 volt. Yeah Yeah, I know so you're starting to see the kind of Crazy color scheme coming in. Okay, so we got red on the rad And green on this bit of tubing right here lord only knows what kind of coolant he's gonna put in here or she All the fingerprints on the powers. Yeah almost done. Ooh It he paints it black Wood paneling. Wow, it's he's like, you know, he brought it into it. It's it's kind of easy to work with like it looks sharp Okay, okay red panel's not on yet red mod on the pump Red and black sleeving more green tubing. All right It's nuts. Is that the uh the aqua? Our alpha cool. It looks like it because it's got the I see the filament in the middle. Okay Wow Look at that coolant The reason why this mainly got in here is his awesome custom wood panels, right? And the fact that it's just absolutely nuts absolutely like Pants on head ludicrous. Look at this He's intentionally left extra space at the top of the rez so you can see it pour in so the water can pour in Which makes it louder and more obnoxious But I don't think louder and more obnoxious is a problem. It's probably going for that. It's probably going for loud and obnoxious here It's awesome. It's such like a cool build. You don't see stuff like this that awesome Uh, the phobia uv leds are better. Uh, they have much higher density. So if you're out there Oh, we didn't even say who this who contributed this build. Oh Oh slayer six seven seven not quite six six six not quite not actually better than that One is just a slayer one more than that. Um But yeah, if you want to swap those out for the phobia ones, they're quite excellent I actually encountered tubing that glows like this or a coolant that glows this strongly once And it was uh, it was some weird brand. I can't even remember from like germany or something. I still have a bottle of it upstairs It glows like nothing i've ever seen before Um been saving it for sort of a rainy day So that's just absolutely wacky tabacky. I don't even Like it's nuts. There's no more. Um, but it's just I build this crazy Love it. So love to see these kinds of awesome builds guys Don't forget to post in the build log section of linus tech tips forum for a chance to be featured on the live stream which gives you the um Self-satisfaction once once the new forums up we are going to be looked at I haven't You don't even know how much i've talked to you about this, but once the new forums up i'm doing this so whatever man Um, yeah, once the new forums up i'm going to look into custom badges and stuff So you can have them on your profile whenever you post it'll show on the side and stuff So you have a little emblem or a badge or something and we'll have like news contributors news contributors build log guys Just like different awards that you can get so there will actually be something to show for now Um, you get a bro fist you get a bro fist and wind speed has a sticky at the top of the build log section With everyone who's been featured. Oh, okay. Cool. And that post gets fairly frequented. So that's pretty cool Yeah, it's a great way to show off the the hardware I mean, it's one thing to work really hard on someone and then like your sister and your like your friends are like Okay Really? That's your computer. It looks like uh disco You're just like oh you don't appreciate this and they're like, yeah, no we don't So it's it's great to have someone who actually appreciates what you've done. Look at it Speaking from experience Yes That's brutal. Okay. Why don't we I think our last news item of the week is a bit of an ongoing thing right now If you go to diablo and dot com Um, we're gonna link right here to the euro gamer article About a gamer who's been banned from twitch.tv So, uh slick you want to cover this one? Do you even have the live stream notes on your computer there? I'm trying to deal with something else that's going on right now. So no, I do not okay. I'll cover it. Um, okay, so basically Uh this gamer who's a diablo 3 gamer who's gone by the name of zillion op Has had was pretending to be paralyzed Uh from the waist down he was pretending that he was stuck in a wheelchair and couldn't walk In order to in addition to his game streaming, which presumably his streams were decent Otherwise, I doubt anyone would have really cared that much It was often him and his girlfriend and sometimes other people so it was kind of a group of them. Yeah It all go together. So this so they'd all go together. They were streaming. Presumably. It was all right. He um Asked for money to get a wheelchair Asked for money to uh travel to move in with his girlfriend Asked for just generally money. There's been an estimated $20,000 donated uh over the uh time that he's been running this little scam Just sort of asking people for money because of sob story boohoohoo I'm a wheelchair bound gamer. I mean I I suspect there's a lot of people who game who are in wheelchairs Like the problem is there's people that are legitimately disabled Yes That are trying very hard to make it and are trying to stream and they enjoy it and there's communities built around it I can't remember the name and then there's this butthole who's just pretending Like look no hands that guy's amazing. There's a guy that's blind who does uh, let's plays He's done a whole let's play of ocarina of time. It's amazing. That's incredible There's tons of all these different people like that is awesome And if you donated a whole bunch of money to someone who plays call of duty without hands because he doesn't have any Or someone who plays zelda because he's blind That's cool. You're cool actually have a disability So they actually are not able to do other things necessarily as well as or as easily as other people It's like yeah, that's fine. But supporting, you know this guy and i'm not saying it's the fault of the people who supported him Don't take it the wrong way But you know someone like this asking for support is just the most offensive kind of wrong. I'm like How was that feel if you were one of the people that were like, you know what this guy's cool I want to help him out because it must be hard for him right now And donated to him and then you figure out that the guy is a scam So in a clip of the incident the the player is shown leaving a game in progress by standing up and glancing at the camera He doesn't appear to rise entirely straight, but seems to be walking unaided. Ah, yes. Here's the uh, the miracle clip Hopefully don't lag out Oh, no, it's oh yeah Get on your mask So he rolls in like you guys just saw audio is on so So he rolls in he's talking for a sec skips to the end Takes off his headset and whoa those legs look like they work a little bit So his girlfriend's trying to tell him in code that he left the camera on And so the excuses were he pushed off his chair and he said he And wiped out which I really don't think happened No Claimed the dog knocked over his water bowl onto a bunch of cables girlfriend later claimed that he was going through physiotherapy But it hasn't been working very well And apparently you can even see I don't I haven't been able to see it But and see he puts points the camera down so that he can get back into his chair without anyone seeing him walk into His chair, which is brutal Like it's just So the internet's not impressed with you, sir Not impressed with you at all In happier news if we jump away from this our folding team is doing great In the chimp competition if you haven't heard about it check the post chimp challenge chimp challenge competition um Jump on the forum check out the post our members of our folding team Not everyone but a few members of our folding team has joined forces with overclockers Dot com I believe sorry for the bad information Overclockers.com. Yes So we've joined forces with them because it was too late for us to sign up with it as a team and we're not actually big enough yet But we are one of the fastest growing teams. So we're thinking by this time next year We should actually be big enough to compete which is pretty crazy because not that many teams. That's very new Yeah, and yeah, our team's really new. Um So yeah, go help them out the chimp competition like honestly You're just pushing for a good cause like it's a fun competition to help everyone on the planet. There are no losers Yeah, so that's cool that guy in the wheelchair who doesn't actually that jerk face can walk. Hopefully we don't help him. Yeah Anyways, that's yeah. But yeah check out the chimp competition. Um Wailer one of the mods on our forum that manages all this kind of stuff is building a 4p folding system, which is just going to be absolutely Insane Um, he's gonna be making a post about it soon But his folding setup is just monstrous 4p for the record doesn't mean that it facilitates urination. It means that it has four processors For processors Oh man Let's do a little bit of a q a i think that's it for our topics for the night though Hmm. Yeah, I know Uh, so we're just gonna do a little bit of twitter. Oh, you know what? actually, we're gonna close off the live stream here because um We've noticed that people aren't really watching it for we remember on a youtube. Yeah, we'll be back Uh, so we'll be back for after party But we are no longer going to be uploading the after party segment to youtube So to do that what we're gonna have to do is cut the stream for a second and we'll be right back We'll be right back. Give us a moment Thanks for watching tonight Everyone who's tuning out now or who's well we have to do an outro because when people watch this on youtube there has to be Maybe remember how many people complained that night when we didn't say goodbye, right? Bye. Bye everyone watch you on youtube and We'll be back everyone. That's live. That's live on twitch when we actually like comment subscribe favorite share What else can you do? Is there anything else you can do? Um, you can give us money for a wheelchair that we apparently don't need my legs. Yeah, please don't do that Don't watch any videos that we've done recently. My legs don't work What a jerk horrible