@drsimonhodes @geeky_gillon @welshgasdoc @emergmeddr @emergencymeddr @sepsisuk @dgfull @lindseybever @matty_hodes oh yes had i found this bloke in the street with a  next to him, i would have had no hesitation in using it. i was thinking more of it as a medical ethics question for undergrads or something similar. ethics pretty clear - not sure an ethical advisor could add much.