It's both. I've always been curious, but I've learned how to be more effectively curious as I've gotten older. This podcast has been a massive education for me, an unintended, accidental education. The fact that I've been able to talk to so many interesting and intelligent people and get their perspectives and just sit across from them uninterrupted for hours at a time and get to see how their brain works and then to consider my own brain. And then, you know, in the beginning, there was a lot of bad podcasts. They didn't go that well. I wasn't that good at it, and I didn't think, first of all, I didn't think anybody was listening. I remember the moment I realized people were listening. I was at a sold out show at the Chicago theater, and I was on stage and I was doing this bit, and it had something to do with the podcast. And I said, how many of you guys listen to the podcast? And the place went, yeah.