People don't even want to debate. I don't know if you've come across it, but seventies, eighties, nineties, there was this culture of debate. Left and right got together. They hashed it out. I've challenged people to debates. I've been, you know, people try to set up debates and it's like we don't even talk, even in a confrontational way. Conflict of visions. It's like everyone in their corner, everyone's trying to make the play. And I think that's too bad. I think we need more, actually, more friction is good. The more public friction. Engagement, debate. We'll get to that point where it's like, all right, we're up on stage debating, but then we go to the green room and we could talk about kids, music, sports, whatever it is, everything.