So I left NASA in 2011, and I went down and met with Elon, and I said, hey, I really like what you're doing here. Can I help? And can I? And he gave me a job. So I went and I left NASA and I came here and I worked there for seven years, did a bunch of different things, eventually became our director of space operations. So my team was responsible for operating mission control at SpaceX and controlling. We have another dragon capsule that we use for cargo, to take cargo. And we've been doing that for a long time, up to the space station and back. And so we would operate it in mission control, but we also were designing the crew one that we showed you. So we were coming up with the procedures and all the rules of how we're going to use that thing and meeting all of NASA's requirements and helping to provide input to the guys designing the displays and the suits and the controls and the seats and all the stuff you need for people. I did that for quite a long time.