So basically, when I first started getting into skating, especially pool skating, to be a pool skater, you had to be super cool. Look like you're surfing. It was all about your style, and it was all about how you flow. And if you're doing aerials, it's got to look cool. And I was super scrawny, super short kid, and so all I really knew how to do was to maneuver my board. And so I was doing these tricks where I'd spin my board under my feet and do these weird sort of hand plants and aerial tricks and things where it just wasn't, that wasn't the normal, and it wasn't really considered the cool way to skate. And so they just, they were like, they call me a circus circus skater. They're like, oh, there's Tony with the circus tricks.