Giving the people enough space is big. Like, letting them talk. Like, you know, there's always this urge to talk, you know, when two people are talking, get excited, right? These subjects are. They're. They're stimulating, right. And you want to talk, so you got to give people the. You want to sort of, first of all, you want to make them welcome. And you want to kind of caress the conversation. You know, you don't want to beat on it. You want to, like, kind of like, like, let's. Let's figure out a way to make you the most comfortable. Let's figure out a way to get the most out of you. And then also, you have to have. I think you have to have genuine curiosity because I think we can all pick up on artificial curiosity. Yeah, we can pick up on.