Well, he doesn't get. I think some of those folks don't get how much magic can happen in this podcast studio. Like, bigger than anything they've ever done in terms of their work. We're not talking about reach, but in terms of the discovery of new ideas. There's something magical about conversation like that. Like somebody as brilliant as him. If he gives himself over to the conversation for multiple hours at a time, that's another place where you've been an inspiration. Where I, like, I'm getting more and more confidence of telling people, like in Elon Musk, that like, you know, a lot of CEO's are like, well, he has 30 minutes on his schedule. I'm like, no, 3 hours. And then they're like, so some say no, and then they come back. Those people have started coming back to like, okay, we're starting to get it. They start to get it. And you're a rare beacon of hope in that sense that there's some value in long form. They think that nobody wants to listen for 30, for more than 30 minutes. They think, like, I have nothing to say. But the reality is, if you just give yourself over to like, the 3 hours, just let it go. 3 hours, 4 hours, whatever it is. There's so much to discover about what you didn't even know. You think, yeah.