Listening and thinking and being genuinely curious and really having, you know, a take on what they're saying. And I maybe a follow up question. Or maybe you just gotta. It's gotta be real. It's gotta be authentic. And when it is authentic and it's real, it resonates with people. Like, they're listening, and they go, oh, like, I'm locked in with the way you're thinking. Like, you two guys are in a conversation, and I'm locked in. You know, when she talks and you listen, I'm listening, too. When he says something to her, when she says something to him. Like, there's a thing that happens during conversations wherever you're there, like, you're listening to. And it's with me. When I listen to a good podcast, I feel like I'm in the room. I feel like I'm in the room and I'm like, like, I'm like the friend that got to sit down and listen. I go, yeah, that's a great conversation. You know, I love conversations, so I love listening to them, and I love putting them together. And the fact that this podcast has gotten so fucking big, it's stunning to me. It blows me away. I never anticipated it. Never thought for a second that that stupid thing that I used to do in my couch, in my, my office was the biggest thing I've ever done in my life by far. Like, people used to make fun of it. Like, there's a comedy store documentary that's coming out, and one of the parts of the documentary is my friend Tom Segura. When he first started doing my podcast, he would, he would be leaving and he would talk to Redband. He's like, what the fuck is he doing? Like, why is he doing this? Like, who's listening? He's like, oh, some people like it.