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The big difference is that Biden created a team to locate and turn the lost documents in.

After the national archives asked for them to be returned. 
Remember his Vice-Presidency ended in 2017 and was a private citizen for 2 years before becoming President.  So he had these documents for at least 6 years, during which time he had no authority to have them in his personal procession.  But...  But... But..
Voted for Biden.
Go ahead and investigate. Use all the same measures that were taken during Trump’s investigation.
If it comes to light that he committed a, or multiple crimes, then I support any subsequent charges.
If it’s found that he didn’t commit any crimes, then I say to republicans; piss the fuck off. >

With consideration given to how many warnings/refusals/delays were made. Take something, have it asked to be returned, and so it immediately? Yeah it's probably fine
Take something, deny it, claim you returned it, and refuse anything further for months? Then have it found in your desks top drawer? Yeah nah, you're pulling a shifty >

Unknowingly having classified documents isn't a crime.  The procedure is specifically designed to NOT punish someone for admitting to a clerical error- the idea is that it's more valuable to get the documents back than to risk someone hiding that they were ever missing.  There is nothing here to investigate.  If anything, it's a prime example of the system working as intended.
This shit was thoroughly hammered out in the Hillary private email server case.  Comey explained it fairly clearly when they declined to pursue charges.  I'd consider an investigation for this to be an attempt at obstructionism.

Edit: 
18 US Code 1924 "Unauthorized retention of classified documents":

(a)Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than five years, or both.

If you have a more appropriate citation, feel free to inform me.  I don't work with these documents, but clearly it's critically important that he have knowledge, intent, and authorization to retain the documents.  If he intended to retain them beyond authorization (end of Obama's term), then that still is only questionably an issue since he has maintained clearances the whole time.  So, yeah, chime in.  I want your adversarial take on this. >

They're hoping for a Clinton moment. Unleash the special counsel, and then maybe we find out Biden cheated on his wife. >

The current Special Counsel rules were drafted specifically to avoid another Ken Starr type investigation.  They used to be independent of the Justice Department.  Now they are still overseen by the AG and broadening an investigation requires the AG approval. >

Boring. :) >

I go back and forth on the ethics. I think having an independent prosecutor is a better look for the Executive. But it's hard to keep away fishing expeditions. It be cool if we quit electing presidents that do shady shit too... >

Why do we keep using "independent" as an implication there won't be bias? There's just no way around the problem. >

Independent in this context only means Independent of the Justice Department/Executive Branch.  Ken Starr was the perfect example of being Independent but driven by ideology. >

Which is exactly what I'm saying and I fail to understand how anything has definitively changed. >

wth is going on with the National Archives? They didn't even notice these classified docs. were missing until Biden's lawyers told them they found them. >

I’m wondering why such information is a printed document?  What’s the point of a secure viewing area when you can just walk out with printed documents? It’s so ironic that I expect Alanis to start singing. >

Some things are classified based on origin, not content.  Example:  One of the 'classified documents' found in Hillary's (infamous) missing emails was a "Happy Birthday" message from a friend of hers.  Who happened to be an ambassador, in a non-friendly nation. *ANYTHING* such an ambassador sends is automatically considered Classified, even if it's "Happy Birthday". >

That's not a case of being classified because of origin. That's just a lack of declassification effort put into removing markings.
It's accidental overclassification. You need someone with authority to declassify things. >

Very good point, thank you.  
Although I imagine in this case the reason for nobody bothering to declassify was that nobody thought anyone would care.  Not that Fox News would be harping on it for years. >

It's just that you need to get someone to do it, and if you have no reason to then no one will bother.
In the example of happy birthday for example, if the recipient read it and that's all it needed then job done. Why bother declassifying? >

Voluntarily returned vs refused to return. 
Do the math. >

Also "Classified" vs. "TS/SCI source documents." >

They were discovered by his own attorney. He was the one that notified The National Archives. They promptly returned them.
It seems like there was nothing particularly sensitive there. 
And I guarantee Biden hasn't seen these documents in ages. They were in a box, in his garage, in his former residence. 
Trump had his sensitive top secret documents in his personal possession. In his safe and scattered around his office.  Was asked for over a year to return them to the federal government. Refused to the point that criminal investigators needed to get involved. 
It's not even close to the same thing. >

Yep, it’s very different indeed.
It’s still an error for Biden, and an investigation should be conducted to make sure there are no more, and to make sure there was no intent in the mishandling of documents.
And once it’s concluded, the results should stand.
And while I’m not a huge fan of Biden, I am confident that he will continue to cooperate, as will those who worked for him.
It is most likely they were simply overlooked and then forgotten, and if the investigation bears them out that is not a criminal act. >

I'm not even sure if it really is that big of an error. It sounded like it was perhaps just his personal calendars. Which would be categorized under that level of classification. >

He kept his calendars? Sounds like Supreme Court material. >

March 23rd, 6pm "Dinner with Squee" >

8pm, cocktails with donkey dong Doug >

March 24th, 8am... Nurse a hangover with lots of coffee. 
March 24th, 9am... Give a speech at a children's hospital saying "we must protect them.... or some shit like that." >

March 25, purchase 250,000 dollars worth of Nationals tickets...for friends. >

Ok cool. Investigate why they were there. 
Also investigate who the fuck is in charge of classified documents because the paper trail of, hey where's this file seems to have a really bad chain of custody. 
Also, anyone have a guess as to how they were found now? Again, why didn't anyone notice these were missing for the last 6 years? >

I wonder if Biden was like "hmmm might want to just check my stuff" and had some people go looking. >

I also don't know why this needed to become public. Like why people snitching? The only reason we found out about Trump and the documents is because he got raided. But the back and forth started in like May of 2021. >


he got raided

And then announced it to everyone. >

That's a good point - no one knew about Trump being investigated until he announced the raid, which was done as quietly as possible. That's likely why we didn't hear about Biden's documents until now, it's normally not a media spectacle. >

Biden had a lot of other people around him with clearance. An investigation needs to be done to determine if he's even at fault. >

Yes, an investigation needs to happen.  Who packed the boxes and why no one even notice the material was missing until Biden's attorney's turned it in are a couple pieces of this puzzle.  But none of that will lift blame from Biden.  He's responsible for his office and his house.  Some of that material was mixed with personal papers about Beau Biden's funeral arrangements, which suggests a certain sloppiness in how stuff got stored.  There will be plenty of embarrassment to go around by the time this is over.  
That said, nothing yet points to criminality on Biden's part.  It sounds like elected officials and political appointees are poorly trained in how to handle classified material.  It sounds like the people who should be in charge of tracking the material don't have a particularly good system in place (again, NO ONE in the government knew the material was missing until Biden's lawyers gave it back).  It sounds like the system sets personnel up for failure, actually, and screw-ups are so common that criminal charges are more exception than rule. >

To be fair, if I was in the middle of arranging my own child's funeral, I might not have file organization as my top priority. >

What a shit show. I mean, obviously Biden shouldn't have had classified documents either, BUT, the fact that it is now being treated as the same as Trumps shit show is ridiculous. 
I suspect some heavy duty politics at play here. I just hate that we are on the defensive when this is apples and oranges.
Also, who knew the DOJ could move to quickly!? >

Look, if thr DOJ didn't move quickly, we already know what that would imply. Plus, I want them too. I want them to do their job. 
It is ridiculous to compare apples to oranges,  but this is just the state of affairs we are living through. We just need to play by the rules, even when it affects us. The others will crumble and implode because their rules are always changing. >

The issue here is that R’s don’t play by “the rules.”   They don’t even know what they are and they change them for maximum damage against D’s. He was gonna get impeached anyways, but this doesn’t help worth a fuck.  
Depending on who becomes the R candidate for President, it will make a difference in 2024. For now, it’s nothing. >

Oh I know. But if the Dems don't play by the rules, even for 1 second, that's it. They lose all credibility. >

Seems like the deck is intentionally rigged against us when the Dems have to play by the book but Republicans can openly violate federal law with zero consequences. >

No one said it was perfect. 🤷‍♀️it's just a hard truth I've learned from playing politics in the military. Those who get promoted because they've cheated will inevitably fail when it matters most. >

I think the Dems should have the GOP literally rounded up and mass arrested, but we all know that ain't happening lmao >

See as much as I personally like that, I also disagree with that. The last thing we need is to work against them. But talking about things that'll never happen, ill take 500 for  "The inability to work together" and the answer is "what is political parties Alex". >

What I heard from NPR this morning is that those documents where placed in the wrong box by a junior executive when Biden was leaving the white house once his vice-presidency was over. However, once biden's own team found out they had classified vice-presidencial documents, they informed the national archives. This is a totally diferent scenario from what happened with trump >

Do all the necessary investigating. Take it seriously. >

The level of classification also matters when considering possible charges. Trump had some of the most sensitive material, which could've done irreparable longterm harm. >

BBC states papers marked top-secret were reportedly among the files found at Biden’s think tank. The files from the garage did not contain any top-secret papers.
How do you just misplace top-secret papers. Seems so crazy how careless these documents seem to be handled >

There is protocol to dispose of classified material when finished with it.  I suspect it was someone’s job to make sure that happened when POTUS is done with it, and they didn’t, so here we are. >

Perhaps it's time we revisit the ridiculous rules the Bush (W) 
administration, under the loving gaze of Dickie C, put into place about 
making information classified. They lowered the bar for what should be 
considered "classified" to keep any information about the Iraq war from 
getting to anybody, anywhere. Maybe we should find out how "classified" 
these docs are, as there many levels contained therein. >

Dear Republicans, 20 < 120.  And 74,223,975 < 81,283,501.  Thank You for coming to my Ted Talks. >

Yes.  The right-wing’s math skills are very pathetic. >

Why does he have them?
A fair investigation is definitely needed. I won't make excuses for Biden like Trump supporters make excuses for their favorite grifter. >

I wonder how much of this was routine before Trump blew it up.  Like how many documents get returned to the archives with just an oops, because it sounds like it is as secure as Swiss cheese.  But how many presidents, vice presidents intel committee members have done this but just simply returned them, and we never knew because it is routine and not a big deal until an ex president steals them. >

This happens with every president. This happens all the time in the military. Most classified documents don’t really have anything that is detrimental if it is lost or stolen. If it is actually crucial top secret info… it won’t be in a document that can be left anywhere.
Source: Been in this field for my whole adult life in the US >

I have a friend that works at the State Department.  According to him: "If it's important enough to cause a problem, it doesn't leave the room you read it in" >

Not the same as Trump but still embarrassing. >

Yeah, this is extremely disappointing. While Trump obviously did much worse, we need to stop giving republicans reasons to say “What about…?” >

Couldn’t this actually have a flip side in the sense that now that Biden is being investigated (and there are even Democrats who want to know what exactly happened and support this investigation) that the GOP would have a weaker argument regarding them complaining about how Trump is being “persecuted” for the classified documents he had? That this classified document investigation thing is not just one sided? >

if some MAGA asshole works himself into a lather about this then I fully expect to throw Trump’s shit back in his face >

Clinton, Obama, and W. start wildly checking their office files… >

Idk why he just doesn’t “declassify” them by thinking it?! Everyone knows that’s how you do it! >

So Presidents in general are shown thousands of documents everyday. Every President is somewhat mobile as well and is briefed with documents no matter where they are. It’s really up to staff to assist on this kind of thing. Most of the documents found with top secret designation will actually be boring stuff that you have already seen on CNN it just was never declassified. But with that said SCI clearance stuff may sound boring and mundane but it could give some kind of information that a foreign government could figure out the source. 
Do I think Biden is going to be prosecuted? No. This was some staff person’s fault. Biden had no idea there was classified material in his garage. Is this bad politically and just overall? Yes as President unfortunately you are going to be held responsible for what happens in your administration. Also the lack of transparency from the beginning is just not good. They knew about the first batch before the midterms and didn’t say anything until it was going to be leaked to the press. I also think this will throw a wrench in the Trump investigation. I’m not sure if he would of ever actually been charged anyway but now. 
Also for all the “experts “ on here that say they have dealt with Top Secret information before and this is not a big deal. That’s just not true. If you had a job dealing with Top Secret information and accidentally took some home and it was stored in your garage for years your life would be over. Minimum you would loose your clearance and loose your job. You would more than likely have to hire an attorney and hope that the US Attorney Office doesn’t charge you with something. To me this is the same level that politicians should be held to but they are not. >

This is all Trump needs to play political whataboutism with his classified documents gambit.  This will also work from a legal aspect too - as they work hand-in-hand with people like him. >

I hope not, because Trump actually tried to hide the documents, and refused to give them back.
Two very different responses to the situation.
But I absolutely know the Trump admin and the entirety of the GOP will use this from here to kingdom come to pretend it's the same.  I just hope they don't get away with it. >

We know for a fact that Trump removed classified documents based upon numerous eyewitness testimony that resulted in a Republican judge issuing a warrant to recover the material.  
What do we know about these “documents” being found in Biden’s possession?  Nothing. We don’t have any idea how they got there. We do know who benefits from such precipitous timing, don’t we?  I smell a plant if there ever was one. >

I doubt that they're plants.  As VP, Biden would have access to probably thousands of documents.  Accidentally grabbing one set thinking it's something else is understandable.
There's an active investigation, Biden is cooperating, let's see what comes of that.  It'll be done long before the Trump investigation is at least. >

We don’t care if Biden gets investigated, because we don’t just blindly follow one person. Anyone is replaceable in the Democratic Party. Trump is literally  holding the Republican Party hostage. There are literally 330 million people to chose from in the US & they keep supporting a single former president. Good luck GOP. >

The news was on at the gym and they were basically reporting it like Biden and Trump had done the same thing which is so not even close to what happened. >

There aren't many news networks that aren't very right leaning these days. >

Big difference - President Biden IS working with investigator: Huge difference than criminal Trump! >

Turns out Hillary Clinton had the most secure document handling practices of any of them. >

Ooohh, 20. And they were turned in as soon as they were found. What a scandal! /s >

It’s hilarious going over to a particular conservative subreddit where they truly believe that the only difference between this case and Trump’s is that Trump was president, and therefore had power to declassify documents.
…..but he fucking didn’t, so why does that even matter?!? Holy shit are they brainwashed. Is it really that hard just to say “Trump and Biden are both in the wrong, and we should investigate both”? See that was pretty easy huh? Fuckin traitors >

So, while I think Biden's negligence pales in comparison to Trump's blatant obstruction, I think the big question that is being overlooked here is the chain of custody when it comes to the documents at the U Penn center.  
If I'm understanding the reports, Biden or a staffer took the TS/Classified docs from the WH in 2016, but the UPenn center they were found at wasn't created until 2018.
Where were these documents during the period between 2016 and 2018?
Trump took classified docs, hid them, and then refused to give them back.  Biden apparently accidentally took classified docs, and then they disappeared for 2 years before turning up at the Biden center.  Neither is great. >

Slipping out a couple of old files here and there over time and then put in the right place to just create the appearance of negligence or worse - then the spin of outrageous false equivalencies can follow. >

Quote from beginning of article…. 
“The approximately 10 documents marked classified and discovered at the Penn Biden Center included top-secret material, according to a federal law enforcement official familiar with the investigation.
Top secret is the highest of the three basic levels of classification: confidential, secret and top secret. A leak of top secret information could cause "exceptionally grave damage." >

R’s successfully used investigations to get Trump elected. We should be cautious about how they could leverage this into taking control of the government, actual courts be damned. >

How is this not just a reminder of how much worse Trump is, how petty the GOP is, & how much more fair are?  That's what it sounds like to me.  Imagine Burr as AG right now. >

-Trump “i have 69 classified documents, which is really nice, they are wicked awesome documents, but no can see em.” >

Next up, Biden did the deed in the Oval Office with intern. >

If you are or were a president in the US, you’re apparently above the law. Pardoning Nixon was a mistake. >

One classified document is too many. >

20???? That’s almost a whole BOX!  IMPEACH!!!! /s >

Conservatives have the worst values. >

Both Biden and trump should not be able to run for office again... Same goes for anyone else that shows they can not or choose not to properly handle top secret documents. Obviously what trump did is probably 10x worse but both should be punished in some way. >

Remember when Trump first was found to have documents and all the people at /r/conservative called for an investigation and said he must be held accountable if wrongdoing was found? /sarcasm >

turned it over or not these were stolen years ago and he is liable to get in deep trouble. if a normal person did this they would get the book thrown at them >

Biden should not be charged with any crime until Trump is charged first. >

Well, DOJ policy is not to charge a sitting president with a crime. Former presidents are open for prosecution. >

Probably matches the same number trump still had hidden in Mar a Lardo. >

The GOP will drag out these investigations until the end of the current Congressional term, at least.  It will be Hillary’s emails again. >

Only 20 documents? I think less than 23 documents is perfectly normal. He had a busy few days when he left office as VP, maybe he was tired and forgot? Oh well, these things happen. Biden certainly would never do anything wrong. I blame the National Archives. Does anyone know if Trump planted the documents in Joe's garage? >

To anyone even remotely reasonable, we can all tell the difference between Biden's an trump is the difference between returning books late to the library, and freaking stealing their books and running away with them and then trying to gaslight them into thinking them the several hundred books you stole are actually your own. >

I like that analogy I'm going to use that analogy thanks for that analogy >

MAGA could have cared less about Trump. Now it’s all they care about besides fucking women over. >

The GOP can't keep its head on straight, it is so not the same by any means, I swear the current GOP and supporters are going to drive US straight off the cliff. >

It seems like the system in place to manage classified documents is so lax that Biden finds them laying around and Trump took them at will. >

The documents should not have been where they were but they were turned over when they were found so how do Republicans compare hundreds of top secret documents in Trumps possession to this. Documents that Trump refused to give back lied about and had to have a search warrant executed after months and months of  negotiations that should not have taken place >

I’m a democrat who voted for Biden and the government should go ahead and investigate Biden and take necessary steps if he committed crimes. Know why I think this way? Because I’m not a fucking cult member like Trump supporters. >

Sketchy timing on these recently discovered documents. 🤔
Nonetheless, if Biden is guilty, he should suffer the consequences. If Trump is guilty, he should suffer the consequences as well. 
I've seen numerous people and media outlets talking about it as if this discovery exonerates Trump in some way. 
That's not the way this works. A crime committed by one person doesn't exonerate another person who's guilty of the same crime. >

does anybody really give a shit about this except republicans? >

If it weren't for Trump's document theft, this Biden staff clerical error from 10 years ago isn't something any of us would have ever even heard about. >

To me, the big difference is we all know Trump was probably trying to sell the information and Bidens more dislike the absent-minded professor. >

More likely he had staffers pack his stuff and he hadn’t gone through all the boxes. >

Not like the 300 Trump transported to Mar-a-Lago Top Secret documents? >

The only thing that comes out of this is that the right will claim unequal treatment. >

You can't really trust leaks at this point.
I hope it is around 20 docs and they were just basically daily briefs held onto for future reference and then accidentally retained. >

One report I read said none of the docs in the first batch found in the office closet were anything significant. They didn't say what they were, just that they weren't highly classified. I haven't heard anything specific about the others, but I assume they're probably all pretty mundane. >

Maybe we just classify too many documents in America.
It's the opposite of transparency in government. >

Investigate, punish accordingly if there's something that deserves punishment. Let's show the Republicans what accountability is. >

The really stupid thing was when the Trump documents story broke, he didn't immediately have a team checking everything he had and immediately announce it. >

This just makes me wonder how many classified ads are floating around in people’s houses and garages etc >

Am I the only person who DOESN’T have classified documents at their home? >

Well if nothing was gonna happen to trump (which it wasn’t) now it’s a sure thing >

This is just (D)ifferent than when Trump did it. >

My takeaway: Biden is an idiot, but Trump is an evil bastard. >

The parties are not the same but you know what they say, one hand washes another. It was over with Citizens United; everything since then has been a dog and pony show. Live your lives as best you can people, show up to local elections, meet your neighbors, and forget about the rest. Washington D.C. is now just another board room filled with corrupt businessmen selling us out one dollar at a time. >

Didn’t give a shit when it was Hillary, didn’t give a shit when it was trump, certainly don’t give a shot now. Mundane ass stuff is classified for no reason. Everyone acts like every classified document is our nuclear missile sites 😂 >

Bruh the problem with Trump taking classified documents was he took them as he left the presidency. Biden is still the president. >

Objectively, it would be hilarious if Biden and Trump both got arrested before the 2024 election >

Note*** these were not recovered with a man FBI raid >

There are levels of secret classification, and it should be investigated. As to how these documents were over looked, what is the traceability?   On the other hand, the current president can have any level of classified documents in his possession.   He didn’t steal them after he was president and lie about it countless times.  At least when found, they admitted it and return them. >

I'm sure Obama declassified them for Biden, just by thinking about them, like Trump did. >

I don’t really understand all this. Trumps shit wasn’t blown up just because he was still in possession of some documents. He had to deny he had them, refuse to give them back, only to finally make a partial return  before shit got serious
Biden returns them immediately upon realizing he has some and the shit hits the fan. What sense does that make? >

This seems like it would be amazing opportunity for Biden to actually own up to the mishandling of the documents with a certain amount of class and just say “look, I fucked up and it’s on me. We have systems in place that are supposed to keep this kind of thing from happening but I’m not going to redirect blame to my staff because ultimately, it’s my responsibility to know that everyone is doing what they’re supposed to be doing and staying in compliance with the way we’re supposed to handle classified documents. We’re going to use this case as a way to do an overhaul on the way these types of documents are handles to that we don’t have this type of outcome again moving forward”. >

25 now >

Biden needs to be impeached just like Trump. >

Remember that time trump had thousands of docs and refused to return them after being subpoenad, pretty close comparison to the guy who had 20 and returned them voluntarily right >

And 19 of them were complaints from the Secret Service about having to walk and poop scoop for Champ.  The last one is a cancelled betting ticket on the Hamilton/Burr duel from his time as a college intern... >

The sad truth that comes from this is that politicians and there staff are reckless with classified information.  They don't get oversight like everyone else.  So a new agency which enforces oversight might be needed for all politicians.  Before the right gets all worked up, lets check Reagan's home and offices as well.  We might find a trend that shines wrong on all sides.
Edits:  minor grammatical fixes. >

Biden should have stuck to the rules as VP 
Obama archives >

Sounds like 20 charges to me. >

I see the difference between Trump and Biden to be intent. Trump knowingly stole the documents and either hid them himself or directed that they be hidden. Biden used the documents and then handed them off to a subordinate for return to their proper place. That didn’t happen. Now, if it is proven that Biden purposely had the documents hidden, then he is as bad as Trump. But it’s also a matter of volume. >

Thank goodness he is the President. He just declassified them with his mind. >

Investigate. Then lock him up if needed. 
That orange guy too. >

Never underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up. >

I don’t care if it’s Biden, Trump, CIA Director, or Private Snuffy. If he did it, punish it by the law. 
Think about this, if this were Private Snuffy they’d crucify them so damn fast. 
Rules for thee, not for me. >

He's not even trying. Trump had 100's. Joe, you need to do better. >

How many of them just had the folder left with the documents long gone?  Also how many did he invite people into his office to see or sell to Russia and the Saudis then his son get huge financial pay offs from those very same people 2 days later?  You know just curious?  If Biden broke the law, then try him and punish him accordingly but only if the Republicans sit the fuck down, shut the fuck up and get out of the way of trying and punishing Trump too. >

is he a Russian agent >

Ukrainian oil tycoon. >

Lock em all up. >

Both Trump and Biden belong in jail for this.  (Voted for Biden.)
Obama curiously decides it is time for a backyard bonfire. >

Time to burn these guys down. Biden Trump Obama Bush and Clinton need to dragged into a court and hammered. >

Agreed..I do love the spin by the leftists that this wouldn’t be a problem if Trump hadn’t taken papers, himself. It will never be that they have done anything straight up wrong. It’s really a freaking joke with all of them so let’s use this for our own “great reset.” >

Cool, do the risk assessments and apply legal consequences. More likely wait to resolve consequences until after he leaves office.
Continue to prosecute Trump for his crimes. Both can be wrong and both can be held accountable. This isn’t a 2 wrongs make a right situation >

The reason trump is being prosecuted is that he was given MULTIPLE REQUESTS for the documents because it was found that he took thousands. If he had returned them, there would not have been an issue, instead he lied, refused to turn the documents over, got his lawyers to unknowingly perjure themselves.
20 documents were found by Biden people he turned them over and is having a special counsel investigating.
There are likely millions of documents that former Pres and VPs take for their library. It's not hard to imagine a small handful of documents misfiled can be brought along. The issue is always how is the response when it's found? Do you do a Trump lie and commit crimes to cover it up, or do you do a Biden and turn the documents over apologize and request an investigation.
Nuance doesn't seem to exist for people. >

Miss handling state secrets is mishandling state secrets. The consequences are a range reflecting the sensitivity of the document. I don’t expect president Biden to suffer as much legal trouble because the oversight is likely less impactful then Trump’s attempt to ransom them back to the state department.
Biden slap on the wrist keep better care of your documents 
Trump jail. Life sentence. No Parole. Take all his wealth and try to undo the damage he has done. >

Trump had more than that in his desk drawer >

Call me if they say these documents contained nuclear secrets. Even Trump said all presidents keep some documents. It’s the fact that Trump denied having any classified documents & it turns out he was hiding them & was aware of them & were “TOP SECRET” highly classified documents related to NUCLEAR secrets. >

None of this would be an issue, if Trump had just given back everything when they asked the first time. Humans are involved, mistakes will be made. No criminal intent. This happens more than we will ever know. All top line government employee's have some level of secrecy and have private dicuments that might get mis-placed on occassion. >

Now that Republicans agree this is a crime.  Let’s punish both Biden and trump according to the severity of the level of documents. >

That sounds like 1 or more.
Lock him up.
Big difference between dems and Republicans. I think dems will all agree he needs to be arrested if true. >

I love the double standards of the left. >

Democrats support democrats no matter what sin they commit. Republicans support republicans no matter what sin they commit. Democrats want to hang republicans regardless if they are innocent or not. Republicans want to hang democrats regardless if they are innocent or not. News and social media do their best to have us turn on one another….we need a do-over….clean house on both side…however, I know this will never happen. >

Ok. Let’s move on. >

One is too many.  Two Presidential administrations… time for a system and policy revamp.  Not cool. >

Can I say Let’s Go Brandon, for making it too easy for the fascist party to hold this against him. Such a stupid move from Biden, which such dire consequences. They will never let this be rationally explained. Can we get some smart, young people on the ballots, please? >

For fuck sake, Joe…. >

The big difference is that Biden created a team to locate and turn the lost documents in. However that isn’t going to matter to the right, so this is a huge fuck up. The GOP is coming for our freedom, so anything that gives them an edge next election cycle is dangerous.