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Shove it up your Zha Zha, Orban
Relax everyone, Hungarian "status quo" is a piece of shit, but they also have the smallest border with Ukraine, so more activity for Poland/Slovakia/Romania... They'll appreciate.
Meanwhile when EU cuts funding for next 5 years, Orban will get the notice. >

If Poland blocked shipments that would be a lot more problematic. >

Yeah but why would we? Last I checked we are sitting at 1 million refugees and like 400 tanks sent to Ukraine. Feel free to deliver an aircraft carrier filled to brim with strategic bombers if you think it can pass through our borders and can help in beating Russia. Absolutely nobody would oppose the idea and you probably could even do it without anyone finding out until it's already in use (Polish forums specifically tell people NOT TO share any pics/videos of anything military related that goes to Ukraine).
Hungary is imho making a really poor decision here. Current polish government used to shield them from EU sanctions and vice versa. But elections are likely to change it to a more pro-western side and even current leadership does NOT want to be associated with Orban since it hurts their odds of winning. We risk effectively nothing adhering to EU law (frankly speaking most would want it numerically, it's just that our election system is sorta dumb and 40% votes can give you 50+% of seats), Hungarian autocracy on the other hand has a LOT to lose by betting on the wrong horse. And last I checked - Russia accounts for 2 billion $ exports for them. Germany alone is worth 37 billion and combined EU is like 100+... Heck, they had more exports to Ukraine than they had to Russia by like 50% in 2021.
If EU decides to actually take action against a non vital landlocked country with mere 10 million population and for instance embargoes them - this would be an instant collapse of a whole region as 70+% GDP would disappear into the void. It's not like Russia even has any deals that it can offer in response, it won't even give you preferential treatment on their gas/oil prices (since pipelines pass through other countries). 
It's just an all around clusterfuck of bad decisions. And probably the fact that Orban likes what he is seeing and really likes Russians - since if a politican can't look at something objectively and change their allegiances in a flash when it would be convenient then it just means they truly and absolutely believe in a given cause. >

I was not saying they would do it just that if they did it, it would be problematic. >

Kick them out, they're a fifth column and contribute nothing. Yeah they would start working against us openly if kicked out, but they're already doing that, only with veto power inside the alliance.
It would be a good lesson to Turkey, who does actually matter to the alliance, that our patience has limits. >

Countries can't actually be kicked out of NATO, they can only leave. >

They can if everyone else agrees.  Who's going to stop them, Orban? >

Yes.  You need unanimous votes I believe. >

My mother, the daughter of Hungarian settlers, was a volunteer translator for Hungarian refugees fleeing the Soviet invasion of 1956. Canada received almost 40,000 Hungarian refugees from that aggression. My mother, and all the Hungarian heroes of that resistance, would be very ashamed of the part played by Hungary in the present day. Not just in its repeated obstruction of support for Ukraine, but in its institutional backsliding into its own repressive corrupt habits. It is, at the very least, very sad. >

I read about the small bridge at Andau, Austria. Did your mom escape across the border that way? >

We get it Hungary, you like Russia. >

Now just sign here to leave NATO and join with Russia. >

And gtfo the EU while you're at it too, you leech >

And europe itself.  The Sea of Hungary >

Removing a country from NATO not only must it probably be unanimous, and don’t quote me on this, but I don’t believe there is any way to kick a country out. Never happened before and I don’t think theres even a way to do it legally >

There likely isn't even anything written in the charter about it, because the only way it could be accomplished is if a unanimous referendum, and anything short of that would destroy any faith in the alliance. Even doing it unanimously does serious damage. >

Kick them out. They have been openly pro putin. Their military is a joke anyway. >

Not worth it. Take a look at the map. They suckin Russian dick. Who else could have endangered them? Slovakia? They are probably already cut off from important operational information. >

NATO should remove Hungary from its alliance until Orban is gone.  In the meantime, NATO countries should begin cutting economic, cultural and travel ties to Hungary. >

If you have a wishy washy approach like that to a defensive pact, there would be no NATO alliance to begin with. Greece wasn’t always a trust worthy ally, France once left NATO because they had a cry over leadership, Italy has often had turbulence. >

Hungarians really, really need to stop voting Orban in.
He’s going to get them kicked out of NATO and the European Union. 
They’re not Turkey, with a geographic choke point to offer to cover their bad behaviour. They’re not an economic power that is a benefit to the union. This shit will only be indulged for so long. >

In Hungary there is the biggest Volkswagen motor factory, Mercedes factory,  and BMW factory will start in this year. And Hungarian employees work in these factorys for eurocents. >

It’s so strange how German companies are the last to learn the game. Big investments in China the last year when they should have moved 20 years ago and now become stranded assets with big write offs. >

Seems like alliances intended to last more than a few decades really ought to have a mechanism to eject members that transform into something else during that time. >

Hungary is more of liability than an asset to alliance.  Since there are no specific provision for expelling a NATO member the best that can be done is to isolate Hungary from all future NATO activities to show the displeasure of other members.
Hungary will be "member" in name only. >

Ranting about ethnic hungarians?    
Unfortunately for Orban,  those are Ukrainian Citizens,  and they seem to be quite happy living in Ukraine, so fuck off and mind your own business. >

Anyone who can prove that their ancestors were hungarian then they can easily claim hungarian citizenship and that's what a lot of them do especially near the border, they even register themselves in hungarian houses. There are times when in a village house there are 50 people registered in. Old people get pension even though they have never worked in Hungary. So yes when necessary they happily shout that they are hungarian. Also they can vote as well... and guess who they vote for. >

To clarify, their position is that letting the weapons through would endanger ethnic Hungarians. At first I read this as, "They aren't letting weapons through which would be used to defend Hungarians"

Hungary does not intend to provide its territory for the supply of Leopard 2 tanks by NATO countries to Ukraine, because it does not want to endanger ethnic Hungarians living in Zakarpattia region of Ukraine, head of the Chancellery of the Prime Minister of Hungary Gergely Gulyás said at a briefing on Friday. >

Cant remove them from NATO? Well... everyone else csn drop out and make new alliance.  Then its on turkey to apply. Hope Finland doesn't block them before russa finds out >

I cannot see any point of them being in NATO. >

They would ally with Russia otherwise. That’s the only point. >

Meh still better off without them. >

One word.  Collaborators. >

Orba'n is a fox in NATO's henhouse. >

Would hungarians prefer to be part of russia? It's not wrong it's just a choice. >

Hungary hasn't been a bigger "play both sides piece of shit" since the Ottomans were fucking up Wallachia >

A lot of CEE countries will not forget what some countries are doing right now. This has a way of creating future schisms. >

After this war is over - kick them out. >

Can we please kick Hungary out of NATO and the EU? They are clearly just ruzzian assets, and are constantly trying to undermine the rest of the alliances they are a part of >

Looks like Hungary is on Putin's side then..... >

Gotta be honest, as an American I’m not all that interested in my tax money being used to defend Hungary so if they don’t want NATO weapons in Hungary I am ok with that…. Can we give Russia Hungary in exchange for Ukraine? >

They've been supplying Ukraine just fine via Poland, unless the dynamics have changed, this is Orbam being Orban. >

If Hungary has signed a gas agreement with Russia, Hungary Leaders will be motivated to slow NATO and quietly help Russia.  When Russia does the upcoming swarm attack, Ukraine's border with Hungary could be at risk of invasion forces. Kick putin! >

Just go around duh >

They were gonna go through Poland anyway. >

Then we'll go through Poland, Slovakia and Romania,  easy