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The mother is the one who published those images.
It’s completely insane that medical procedures can be legislated by politicians in the first place. They are literally not qualified. 
If a person wants to treat patients they have to spend 10 years getting a degree from an accredited medical school and complete residency along with a multitude of additional rigorous tests, yet someone writing and passing laws about how and when medical procedures can be performed requires zero qualifications. 
How does that make any sense? In any other context individuals without a medical degree can be sued or even imprisoned if they treat patients without proper qualifications. 
Companies cannot make medical claims regarding their products without rigorous testing and certification from federal agencies. 
But some yahoo with a high school degree can legislate patient care with zero medical knowledge? Do we need permission from our Senators to qualify for a heart transplant? To get chemo? To donate organs? To accept organs donated from someone else? To initiate cardiac bypass procedures? Receive kidney dialysis? 
It’s complete madness. >

I mean it’s pretty simple. Republicans believe that fetuses are people, and the question is not whether a woman can have a medical procedure on herself but on herself and another person. I’m pretty sure most people would agree that you couldn’t decide to kill a 2 year old even if the child hypothetically posed a health risk to you, let alone in any instance. So really pro life republicans and democrats disagree about age when the baby has rights.
Disclaimer for those who care - I’m very pro choice, but that doesn’t mean I can’t see another persons POV. >

No one has the right to use someone else's body without their consent. Ever. >

I really doubt even you believe that. Do you think a baby one day away from birth date should be allowed to be aborted if the mother is fully healthy just because the mother no longer wants a child a day before the birth? Highly doubt it but if you do I think most dems would disagree. >

That’s not a thing that actually happens. Taking it to this level of argument is a pedantic strawman and not grounded in the reality that is casusing the suffering and death of real live human beings. I can tell you’re a man because you’re treating this issue as a fun thought experiment to play with rather than the bloody, deadly reality it actually is >

Dude really thinks women are going to go through 9 months of agony just to say "whoops, just kidding!" >

There is a complete myth among conservatives that this actually happens, and that the reason late term abortions happen is for funsies. >

It's absurd.  And cruel.  Late term abortions, in the extremely rare cases that occur, are for medical emergencies and are tragic for all involved.  At that point the crib has been picked out and a name has been chosen.  It's politicizing one of the worst things someone who does want a child can experience. >

It's why I don't really think there should be any limit on when a woman can seek an abortion.  She is either going to be doing it as soon as possible, or she is doing it because something catastrophic has happened during the actual pregnancy. >

100% agree.  The only people who should be involved in the decision are the pregnant woman and her doctor. >

This is what happens in states controlled by republicans. Women and girls lose access to healthcare, lose rights to their own bodies, and suffer tremendously in unthinkable, medieval realities >

Pretty soon they won't be allowed to vote or go to college. You think I'm kidding? I guess you never saw their official platform? You probably should go take a look.
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While you're at it, look at how they vote on legislation and what bills they introduce. It's frightful and disgusting. They are the fucking taliban and should be stopped before we end up the same way. >

Can you please share their party platform that states they want to ban women from attending college? >

There are multiple mainstream conservative pundits -- male and female -- who openly advocate against women having the right to vote. >

Which ones are those? I don't follow conservative pundits >

Here's one list
Kaitlin Bennett and Tomi Lahren are two others.  
Here's a recent article. >

Thank you for sharing this! >

No problem! >

I guarantee you that Idaho Republicans will only focus on the fact that she’s not married. In their eyes she probably deserved it. 
Medical decisions should be made by DOCTORS, NURSES, and PATIENTS!
On a side note, if you are a pharmacist just fill someone’s prescriptions. If you want to make medical decisions then go to fucking medical school! >


if you are a pharmacist just fill someone’s prescriptions. If you want to make medical decisions then go to fucking medical school!

A PharmD is also a four-year doctoral degree, and it is literally a pharmacist’s job to ensure prescriptions are safe for patients. Unfortunately some have decided to abuse their position to impose their personal beliefs on their patients, and that is not acceptable whatsoever, but correcting things like a doctor accidentally prescribing an unsafe dose or not being aware of a medication interaction is what they’re there for. >

I’m referring to them using their religious views to deny women. Yes they should fix mistakes that doctors make. >

Sadly she's decided not to try and have anymore children thanks to this. But considering the GOP has already started the first lawsuit to overturn Griswold, she may not get to make that decision for herself either. >

What makes this even worse is that this is a woman who previously suffered a full-term loss of a child. I am outraged for this woman and any woman forced to endure this type of pain, when their wanted child is DEAD! (To be clear, I’m 100% pro-choice, no matter the circumstances, but this is completely rage inducing.) >

It's infuriating. They think we're chattel. And evidently republican women agree because they could vote democratic to keep this from happening but they're good with it. >

These headlines are going to become normalized, along with mass shootings and once in a hundred year storms. >

I love how we're getting hundred year storms every year and conservatives still deny climate change. >

My gosh which one do you love more? >

This is so triggering I had two miscarriages and one was missed miscarriage where my body didn’t take a hint. Baby died and now I am carrying a dead baby and I need sth to pass the tissues or else I will get an infection (cuz tissue is dead) 
I was offered d/c , in office procedure or pill. We eventually picked pill which is basically the same pill as abortion pill  second half . The pregnancy was very planned and I burst into tears when the doctor informed me heart beat is gone
To think some people sitting remotely thinks they have a Decision on what is between me and my doctor is just disgusting >

The USA citizenry is expected by the fascists to become so inured by that which is unacceptable that it becomes the default. This is already the case among many millions of citizens. >

“Ordinary”, said Aunt Lydia, “is what you are used to. This may not seem ordinary to you now, but after a time it will. It will become ordinary.” >

There’s gotta be some way for her to sue.  Cruel and unusual punishment?  Something. Cause this shit is literally torturing someone.  People need to step up against this. >

The likeliest target would be doctors or the hospital, which will just drive more doctors away from any form of practice that might put them in the crosshairs of such lawsuits. Red states are going to see a severe lack of doctors who will even see or accept patients having a miscarriage. >

Vote Republican they said, they'll give us freedom and choice they said. >

Sure the leopard ate my face but he cut my taxes 3%, too. >

I literally talked to someone who said that Trump stealing all those classified docs makes them unsure if they’ll vote for him again. When I asked how the fuck could they still be mulling it over they said “Well yes, he did something highly illegal but the fact of the matter is I want to keep seeing my 401K increasing in value” >

Many pro-life individuals believe in the value and dignity of human life at all stages, and they may view a miscarriage as a tragic event that is deeply mourned.
It is important to recognize that people's beliefs about abortion and other controversial issues are often complex and nuanced, and it is not productive or fair to oversimplify or stereotype individuals or groups based on their views. It is important to respect the diversity of beliefs and opinions within society, and to engage in respectful and constructive dialogue, rather than making derogatory or inflammatory statements. >

No, you are simply wrong in this case. Ideas don’t inherently deserve respect because they happen to be different. Sometimes people just hold terrible views and beliefs and those worldviews don’t deserve oxygen. >

While it is true that some ideas and beliefs may be harmful or offensive, it is not productive or helpful to simply dismiss or ignore them. Instead, it is important to engage in respectful and constructive dialogue, and to consider the perspectives and experiences of others, even if we disagree with them. >

Again, not always. If someone says they like a food I don’t, who cares. We can agree to disagree.
If someone says “certain people shouldn’t have full rights.” The answer isn’t to meet them in the middle, it’s to say “That’s fucking disgusting. We’re civilized and don’t do that to people.” >

It isn't always about meeting somebody in the middle, but instead, having a productive and meaningful discussion. I personally believe that certain people shouldn't have full rights.
While everyone deserves access to basic fundamental rights, convicts who have been found guilty of breaking the law have voluntarily surrendered certain rights and privileges, and that it is appropriate for them to be subject to certain restrictions while they are in prison.
It is also important to recognize that while convicts may be subject to certain restrictions while they are in prison, they are still entitled to certain fundamental rights that are protected by law. These rights are based on the inherent dignity and worth of every person and are not contingent upon one's actions or behavior. Ensuring that convicts are treated with dignity and respect and are afforded their basic fundamental rights can help to promote rehabilitation and reduce the likelihood of recidivism.
Even if you disagree with my opinion, blanket statements, and early the dismissal of ideas is wrong. >

She’s lucky she didn’t have serious complications or die during those 19 days. Disgusting. >

The prolife birth slavers would have claimed it was 'god's will' if she had died. >

It's worth reading this entire article. This woman only got help because she heavily and relentlessly advocated for herself. >

Sadly this is way too often the case with much of women’s healthcare. (Personal short story: I’m a nurse with a very traumatic birthing experience that would have resulted in my death within a few days of delivery had I not known enough about what was going on with my health to go hard advocating for myself). >

Missing from the article was the reporters getting the on-the-record reaction from Idaho legislators responsible for this. >

They'd just blame the hospitals and doctors for "misinterpreting" the law.   It's their usual justification. >

Yes. There was a similar story on npr last week and the “prolife” law writer said the law had been misinterpreted. >

Then perhaps we should push the law writer to do something about the negative outcomes they are causing. >

Republican Party is a death cult >

This is a baseless and inflammatory statement that does not accurately reflect the values or beliefs of the party or its members. It is important to avoid making broad and sweeping generalizations about political parties or individuals based on stereotypes or prejudices, and to approach discussions about politics with an open mind and a willingness to listen to multiple perspectives. >

Ok this is a stretch but abortion laws could be viewed as legal sanctions against procedures that could be used for an abortion. This legal sanction caused this women 19 days of pain and trauma. I would argue this sanction is cruel and unusual and is a violation of the 8th Amendment. It would take a talented lawyer to try for an 8th amendment argument but this could strike down abortion laws especially if a jury finds it cruel and unusual. The difficult thing is to establish more legal precedent against anti-abortion laws. >

It would be a long shot even if the supreme court wasn't a broken joke right now. >

Blame republicans for repealing a constitutional right. This blood is 100% on their hands. >

The Pacific Northwest’s Mississippi >

Oh thank god she didn't die >

Women will die, it's a matter of time. Fingers will be pointed in every direction. Nothing will change.
2016 was the death of Roe. All because people didn't want to vote for a woman for president. >

Women have died. >

I am well aware of numerous complications and near deaths. There are no confirmed deaths...yet. Like I said, there will be.
Edit: of your list #2 seems the most reliable as it is actual testimony. >

It's all about punishing women for being women. >

Some people who support restrictions on abortion may do so because they believe that abortion is morally wrong or that it poses risks to the health and safety of women. Others may support abortion rights because they believe that women should have the right to make their own reproductive decisions or that access to abortion is essential for women's health and well-being.
It is important to approach discussions about abortion and other controversial issues with an open mind and a willingness to consider multiple perspectives. It is also important to recognize that people's beliefs and values are often shaped by a variety of factors, including their personal experiences, religious beliefs, and cultural and societal norms. It is not productive or fair to oversimplify or stereotype individuals or groups based on their views on abortion or other issues. >

Yes, abortion poses a risk to the health and safety of women. When it's illegal. 
Please don't lecture us on this "giving every viewpoint equal respect" bullshit, because we all know that's a bunch of horsecrap, lol. You want to take away women's rights and force people to give birth when they don't want to? Sorry, not going to pussyfoot around these people. And I suspect that you personally have plenty of views that you don't compromise on either, so let's just lose our holier-than-thou attitudes shall we? LOL! >

I don't think that every idea deserves equal amount respect, however, I do think that every idea deserves some level of respect for a number of reasons:
Promotes understanding and dialogue: Respecting all viewpoints promotes understanding and dialogue, as it allows us to listen to and learn from others, even if we disagree with them. This can help to foster a sense of mutual respect and understanding, and can lead to more productive and constructive conversations and debates.
Encourages diversity and inclusivity: Respecting all viewpoints encourages diversity and inclusivity, as it allows people with different perspectives and experiences to feel valued and included. This can help to create a more welcoming and inclusive environment, and can promote greater understanding and acceptance of differences.
Recognizes the inherent dignity and worth of all individuals: Respecting all viewpoints recognizes the inherent dignity and worth of all individuals, as it acknowledges that everyone has the right to their own beliefs and opinions. This can help to foster a sense of respect and appreciation for others, and can promote a more harmonious and cohesive society.
Promotes personal growth and development: Respecting all viewpoints can also promote personal growth and development, as it allows us to expand our thinking and consider ideas that may be different from our own. This can help us to develop a more nuanced and well-rounded understanding of the world and can broaden our horizons.
Overall, respecting all viewpoints is important because it helps to create a more understanding, inclusive, and harmonious society, and can promote personal growth and development. >

Full cynicism: right-to-life Christians would believe GAWD meant to punish this woman, so GAWD's will, which translates to إن شاء الله . >

Would love to see them have a meltdown if someone suggested banning pork, lmao >

Idaho - Red State does not like the girls/women to have abortions . >

That poor woman. She absolutely needed medical help and was refused it. Shame on our politicians. >

I hope she sues the State. >

I mean... If what happened to her was legal and the intended result, would she have the grounds or would she win? I would hope she has grounds but this is the law now. >

I have a hard time believing it’d be impossible to build a medical negligence case out of this.  She has recorded evidence of this, including an admission that it was determined by state guidance.  Even if the law supports medical negligence, it cannot be found to violate her own right to life?  Or at the very least, her right to self-determination? >

This is what will compell the GOP to ban TikTok. >

A thousand women could suffer the same, record it the same and get it out there the same, and nothing will change. These state political activists DON'T CARE. This has to be addressed on a federal level. >

Miscarriage? The Christapo decides otherwise. Put'r in prison fer life. >

Ah the party of “Jesus.” >

Republicans don't care if something is cruel to women.  In fact, I think they actually like it. >

If only we could have known this would happen! /s >

Get your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can. >


Broesder's miscarriage ultimately lasted 19 days, she said. She visited three separate emergency rooms before receiving a pap procedure and medication that finally helped her pass what was left of the fetus, according to medical records shared with Insider and on TikTok.

Hospital visits are not free. Seems like those increased number of visits would increase her costs and hospitals' incomes. >

Evaluated and refused services. No cost at all. >

You reap what you sow, Republicans. >

How can removing a dead baby from the mother be considered an abortion?
Why are transplants from alive (but braindead) patients still allowed? Their soul is still there right? >

The procedure they do it  is basically the same as abortion. I had a missed miscarriage where my body didn’t take a hint the baby is dead. I was offered surgery or take the pill and try to pass it. The pill is basically second half of the abortion pill where it tells your body to get rid of tissues by contracting . It is very painful tbh. The surgery is basically same surgery. Your doctor often have to send you off for a full radiology report that baby has no heart beat. 
I had to call my health insurance uhc ugh cuz on their website it says no abortion covered) They cover miscarriages treatment but not abortion however a lot of services are coded as abortion in hospital it is called spontaneous abortion any loss before 20 weeks
Also the cost of d/c without insurance where I am is 10k lol what a slap on the face >

The road to hell is paved with unintended consequences. >

They were warned about these specific consequences and passed the laws anyway. >

this is somewhat similar to how animals are treated (mistreated) within animal agriculture—produce, reproduce, or die; no medical care; languishing and suffering. society needs a complete overhaul. no one, no one should be treated like this >

the cost of raising a child, emotionally and financially is less then the cost of moving out of buttfuck Idaho and to a more progressive state which protects abortion. stop complaining and move. Aswell sticking around in one of those states funds the government. which uses that money to persecute abortions. move out moron >


the cost of raising a child, emotionally and financially is less then the cost of moving out of buttfuck Idaho and to a more progressive state which protects abortion.

The cost of an abortion is less than both. It shouldn't be illegal, and forcing someone to move is absolutely evil.