comment: >
  
  Prisons are on reusable plastic for the most part
context: How about packaging frozen veg in cardboard again like we had in the 70s and 80s. >
  
  Alot of people forget that plastic was implemented because it decreased how many trees were harvested each year, and used less fuel to produce than glass. The major downside to plastic is how it's handled in waste management. >
  
  Require the cardboard either be recycled or use sustainable tree farming.  Tree farms do in fact help the air quality more than if they didn't exist and we just use plastic instead. >
  
  Recycling does very little to help even when people actually do it. It alleviates consumption of resources in the single digit percentages. There were entire forests stripped away from 1940-1960 in the US for paper products. Tree farming takes up a lot of space and uses a lot of water. >
  
  It's completely disgusting how much plastic is used by restaurants in gig delivery.  Literally every item by some of these restaurants are packaged in their own container never to be used again.  I don't even buy bowls.  I just use what I've gotten from these places.  Often, they are objects durable enough to be used for years.  Delivery before the gig company hijacking of the industry was largely pizza and Asian based because it can be delivered in a  paper based container.  Most of the items that are delivered in plastic could be delivered in more ecologically sound ways that could and should be cheaper.  Many restaurants are victims of their own egotism.  "Their food" is special and it's necessary for it to be delivered in packaging that more maximizes temperature like plastic. >
  
  
  I don't even buy bowls. I just use what I've gotten from these places.
  
  I get criticized for that. It makes me judge them back as wasteful and superficial. And to them I say: "No, I do not like fucking Bed Bath and Beyond!" >
  
  I’m not judging but just FYI, those containers are terrible for PFAS. They shed those forever plastics into your food, and it’s really bad for you. Definitely don’t microwave your food in them. >
  
  Oh shit, I actually appreciate that! >
  
  Try to move to glass when possible. Freezing them with food inside also is bad. >
  
  Ahhhwwwhh fuck! My entire freezer is plastic. I have a long journey. I appreciate it nonetheless, though. I need to make a lifestyle change.
  Freezing is bad? Like it's way too long in there/ close contact for periods of time? Or the temp does something shitty?
  I don't even want to know about reheating in the microwave now. >
  
  The contracting and expanding of plastics from temperature change makes microplastics shed into the food >
  
  ^(Guess I'll die then...) >
  
  Hold me, buddy. We’ll go into the micoplastic-lined void together. >
  
  I ate a can of sardines just now. That thing is lined with plastic :( >
  
  They are only banning it in resturants, gotta get that juicy title in as if they are banning all of them. >
  
  Watch as restaurant workers show pics after this gets put into action how the wood/paper cutlery is packaged in plastic, same as the bs w/ straws. >
  
  I’ve always felt this way about straws.  I don’t like the paper ones at all, I certainly don’t need to use a fresh one for every single drink, but if I bring my own reusable one people look at me like I’m some kind of weirdo.  If we could normalize carrying this stuff around I’d be fine with that…. Also you can eat a lot more with your hands than you think.  Source: Have toddler. >
  
  I am not carrying a straw around lmao.
  Funny that people think banning straws will make a difference.. >
  
  You realise they'll just do what the shops did about plastic bags, right? Make them 3 microns thicker and claim they're reusable? >
  
  And yet the amount of plastic used is basically unchanged because those "bag for life" things use far more plastic - sometimes an order of magnitude more - and thus take far, far, far longer to break down when they are disposed of.  The cheap, thin, film plastic bags would disintegrate while they were still in your household bin.
  Irony is that my council ONLY allows me to throw away my rubbish in black plastic sacks in my wheelie bin. >
  
  Someone deleted their reply to this, claiming that "the policy is working" because people are reusing the bags, and doubting the order of magnitude.
  Since I already wrote my reply I'll post it here.
  
  Have a source for any of your claims? An order of magnitude sounds outright wrong.
  
  I dug through my bag of "reusable" bags that piled up over the years (because if you are forced to buy a "reusable" bag that lasts forever each time you don't have a shopping bag, you'll very quickly end up with way more of them than you can wear out in a lifetime) and found the following:
  
  Small "single use" thin plastic carrier bag - around 7 g
  Large medium-thin plastic carrier bag (around as thick as a robust trash bag, perfectly reusable, but because it's a plastic bag and cheap and often single-used it's either being banned or phased out voluntarily) - ~36 g
  Small-ish "permanent use" bag (I think non-woven polypropylene) - ~ 65g
  Large "permanent use" tote bag, similar to this: >200g, can't fold it in a way so it stays on the scale.
  
  So I'd say one order of magnitude is absolutely correct. Which means that removing the lightweight options and replacing them with the "more reusable" ones result in more plastic waste unless the change gets people to reuse each bag at least 10x where they would otherwise have gotten a new "single use" one.
  I would have probably used my backpack less often (and just gotten a new bag) if the cheaper options were available, but the amount of plastic that would have produced is nothing to the pile of "super robust for-life" bags that has piled up because now when I forget (or am picking up my shopping as part of a larger route, e.g. spontaneously on my way back from work) I have to buy a 10x as expensive, 10x as heavy bag that will see a single use and then join its dozens of brethren in the bag of bags. So the policy "works" only if you go by count, and not by weight.
  The phase-out of the 36 g style bag pisses me off the most, because while it won't last forever, you can actually fold it up and easily carry it in a pocket, unlike the other "better" bags. >
  
  Good job and bout time!! Now for the rest of the world to follow suite. New York I think is ahead of the curve with banning Styrofoam and single use plastic bags. >
  
  France already did this. England is catching up though. >
  
  Good.. they where shit anyway >
  
  those ones that were so flimsy and cheap they couldn't even stab a chip without bending the tines >
  
  Or melt when you hot a particular hot piece of food! >
  
  Its good. How about fuicking plastic rapping on supermarket items. And freezer bags. My wife and I dont see eye to eye on this. Open the fridge and freezer and everythings fucking prewraped or put into a freezer bag to eventualy float off into the sea on the wind. >
  
  Freezer burn ruins your food, which means you end up wasting it.
  Plastic's best attribute that it's almost unrivalled in (in terms of cost) is the ability to hermetically seal.
  Unless you want glass jars or metal tins in your freezer (good luck with that with bare hands!), air gets to the food, and air getting to your food is what makes it go off.
  The campaign against all plastics, rather than appropriate use of plastics (and freezer bags are one such use, as well as hermetically sealing things to get them a far longer shelf-life), is going to cost the world more than it saves. >
  
  I agree with you in general however there are reusable alternatives to freezer bags. There are cases like cucumbers where the plastic extends the shelf life enough to justify it. >
  
  
  There are cases like cucumbers where the plastic extends the shelf life enough to justify it.
  
  And yet that exact use case is the one environmental activists scream about the most. >
  
  The real crime is using a fork to eat fish and chips >
  
  eating fish is the big problem >
  
  This is gonna do nothing about littering or pollution. Biggest lie about the pollution crisis is that individual people are most responsible for it. >
  
  The lie has generally been by companies claiming that liter and waste are the responsiblity of the end user, not the company making them.  Rather than reduce plastic usage or switching to more environmentally friendly materials they blame normal people because they don't recycle.  As an example, beverage companies have done a pretty good job pretending they are environmentally friendly because their bottles are recyclable.  They know many of them won't be, but they spun that as the fault of the end user.  
  Actions like the one in the link will actually have impact because they force companies to do things they otherwise will refuse to to.  It forces them to actually consider other materials rather than just passing the buck on to the end users. >
  
  Where's the plastic bottle ban?  Along streams that's half of the litter I see.  You rarely see straws or plastic utensils. >
  
  A ban is better than recycling.  Plastics break down chemically and there's 10 different types.  You can't just melt them all together, and when you can recycle the end product is low quality. >
  
  If people aren't putting plastic bottles in the trash I can't imagine more recycling doing anything about litter.  A sugary drink ban or a plastic bottle ban are the only things I can imagine having any effect. >
  
  Increase the deposit until it is high enough to divert 90% of beverage containers into the recycling stream. >
  
  Let’s do glitter next >
  
  I hope they can come up with a decent alternative then. Wooden forks etc are awful for anything other than just skewering chips. >
  
  So what is the replacement going to be for cutlery? I didn’t see an example listed in the article. Paper, ceramic, metal? I would think ceramic and metal would be off the table, due to cost reasons. A paper utensil seems like it would be an overall bad experience by the end. Imagine a paper knife cutting something with gravy. It’s not gonna end well. 
  Food prices are already high as shit, even with the cheap containers and utensils for takeaways. I’m curious how much the consumer will have to pay for the poor business practices that led us here. >
  
  We had the ban enforced last year. For takeouts the cutlery got replaced with wooden made ones (and yes, its as crap as it sounds) >
  
  Ah yes passing the buck to the average person. Meanwhile mega corporations can continue on as usual. >
  
  This is literally targeting the mass production and distribution of single use plastics by restaurants.
  It’s the opposite of what you’re complaining about. >
  
  For once a good idea. I fail to understand when did digging up oil, making it into plastic, and plastic into cutlery, become MORE effort than washing the spoon after you are done eating >
  
  Ive gotten used to just using my hands, I don't like the taste of metal.  Most of my food is either tacos, burritos sandwiches, burgers, or pizza, so i only look odd eating salads. >
  
  They have rubber and wood utensils. Most baby utensils are made of rubber. >
  
  I do use chopsticks, wooden, and ceramic. Don't think I've tried rubber. I might have to look into that. >
  
  I think they mean food-grade silicone. >
  
  I have to vote against silicone. Go with metal or wood. Silicone has a nasty tendency of soaking up oil and makes it very hard to wash off. You just waste a lot more water trying to clean it. >
  
  Good,  now ban black plastics. Most UK  councils won't recycle them. >
  
  Why won’t they recycle black plastics? >
  
  It seems like the sorting equipment can't sort it out because it uses an optical sensor which doesn't get reflected by black plastic. >
  
  "Couldn't you all just hire some people to identify the black plastics that the machine misses?"
  "Oh, that's not possible." >
  
  Would you be willing to work in such a place? Basically as a volunteer for a thank you and a coffee as otherwise no-one would buy your company's product, which would be 10x more expensive than new plastic. >
  
  Excellent!
  Fast food restaurants in the US hand out plasticware like it's a contest. When I hand it back and say, "I won't use this, I would hate to waste it." I get looked at like I'm crazy, sometimes. I mean, I am, but not because of this. >
  
  then they throw it away because you touched it. we are doomed. >
  
  This sounds good in theory, but there is still a need for disposable cutlery, especially in hospitals, and if there is an emergency, single use forks and knives are essential >
  
  Durables. And what kind of emergency would have single use garbage be essential? >
  
  Single-use plastic cutlery is single use because  people choose to throw them away after using them once. Do we next ban balloons? >
  
  If it wasn't made to be thrown out after one use, it wouldn't be made of cheap thin plastic that can't be recycled. >
  
  ...but they are refusing to recycle them LOL! The are banning them outright! >
  
  Recycling is a scam, most stuff is incredibly difficult to recycle if it even can be. Just because some plastic has a little symbol molded into it doesn't mean it saves the planet.
  Stuff has to be made out of specific plastics to be recyclable at all, and then it might not even be worth recycling.
  Moving away from plastics is the right path. >
  
  "We want to be free of EU rulings!"
  *implements EU ruling.