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  She is such a POS. Just damn.
context: It's difficult to see how Clarence can with a straight face participate in any politics-related issues put before the court. >
  
  We call this "corruption" when it happens in countries we don't like. >
  
  Those are called shithole countries, mind you. >
  
  United Shitstain of America? >
  
  United ShitHOLE of ‘Murica, get it right or pay the price. >
  
  "Now we will share a lifetime of the fondest memories..." 🎶 >
  
  This thing came apart >
  
  Did not expect a Salute Your Shorts reference here of all places, but I’m happy nonetheless >
  
  This is the second SYS reference I've seen in under 24 hours - the other being in the megathread yesterday evening. >
  
  I love how these extremists love to use the term CONSERVATIVE, but they never explain what the fuck that means.  Fiscal Conservative, Religious Conservative? Authoritarian conservative?  And WTF is a SCOTUS wtfe involved in any of the politics?  Such a total conflict of interest . >
  
  “The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.”
  
  John Galbraith >
  
  Precisely. Selfishness recast as virtue.
  I watched It's a Wonderful Life, at Christmas and it's so sad, because the world of miserly greed and selfishness, masquerading as "realism", that the antagonist inhabits (and is counterposed with the generosity and community spirit of James Stewart's character) is now the world we now all live in.
  Selfishness is winning. >
  
  Don't kid yourself, it was the world they lived in as well. There's a reason it's set in a fictional town >
  
  I'm not so sure. The film was released in 1946, two years before the Marshall plan in the US and the establishment of the NHS in the UK.
  It would be difficult to imagine programmes such as these being delivered today, because of, frankly, ingrained societal selfishness. >
  
  The Marshall plan was a strategic military program, I'm sure it would have little trouble passing today so long as the right companies profited an it could be sold as whatever the modern global equivalent of "anticommunism" is today. We didn't institute it out of the goodness of our hearts, and the opening line of the bill makes that perfectly clear:
  
  An Act 
  To promote world peace and the general welfare, national interest, and foreign policy of the United States through economic-financial and other measures necessary to the maintenance of the conditions abroad in which free institutions may survive and consistent with the maintenance of the strength and stability of the United States.
  
  An economic collapse in Europe would be terrible for the US, and helping them financially was a huge geopolitical win. I think even in our broken political climate this would be a no brainer >
  
  We'll have to agree to disagree, but right now Republicans don't want to foot the bill for weapons to allow a democratic country desperate to join NATO to defend itself against an authoritarian enemy that admitted meddling in a US election, and has vowed to do so again. A Marshall plan would seem rather out of reach. 
  1946 was also the year after the UN was established and 3 years before NATO was established. The US under Trump took a dim view of both institutions, preferring America First unilateralism. Notwithstanding Biden's return to multilateralism over the last 2 years, its hard to imagine the US creating these institutions today.
  1948 - Treaty of Brussels. 2016 - Brexit. 
  Similar story. >
  
  I'm not quite sure where to begin with this list. You are cherry picking foreign policy from two wildly different situations and making an apples to apples comparison that just is not valid. Sure, Ukrainian aid and the Marshall Plan are both foreign aid plans, and Russia is a player in both, but that's where the similarities end.
  There is no looming economic collapse if Russia is allowed to annex Ukraine. Similarly Russia has no ideological influence on the world at large like Communism did in the 40s. The self interested capitalists in 1946 were terrified that communism would become popular and threaten their profits at home and abroad, whereas their counterparts in 2023 couldn't give less of a shit if Russia takes over Ukraine.  Sending a few APCs to Ukraine does not present the same economic opportunity to US Capital like a $120B foreign investment does. 
  Similarly, the people resisting sending that aide to Ukraine are the same ones that benefited from that Russian interference, so I'm not sure why you're holding that up as a "noninterventionist" stance. 
  Sure Trump bashed international organizations and pulled us out of the Paris accords. Biden put us back in. These are not indications of societal views or even views of the government as a whole. When the League of Nations was formed after WWI, The US never even joined it despite President Wilson winning a Nobel Peace Prize for his role in establishing it. Not exactly the spirit of community and cooperation.
  All of this is to say: don't romanticize the past. People have always been selfish. It's just that in the 20th century some people in power thought it prudent to throw a bone to the average person, and even then it took one of the most tumultuous time periods in human history to get there (the two largest scale conflicts and one of if not the worst economic catastrophe in history). These concessions are largely anomalous in Western politics, particularly in the US. And while the backlash to the policies of FDR continues to this very day in the anti-socialism rhetoric of conservatives, even at the time they were met with resistance (see The Business Plot). Self interest is so key to US identity we coined the term "Rugged Individualism", and here's what Hoover's Secretary of the Interior had to say about collective economic security:
  
  It is common talk that every individual is entitled to economic security. The only animals and birds I know that have economic security are those that have been domesticated—and the economic security they have is controlled by the barbed-wire fence, the butcher's knife and the desire of others. They are milked, skinned, egged or eaten up by their protectors
  
  Bedford Falls is a fairytale land, and it's ok to want to live in George Bailey's world. But don't get it twisted, American society, and particularly American Government at large was never that. >
  
  Quality comment >
  
  Of course she supports the "Insurrection Caucus". >
  
  The last leap into the House Ginni took was 2 years ago today.  She is the wife of a SCOTUS judge.  
  So much wrong with the republican party.  So much. >
  
  I think it's been a darn while longer than 2 years since she last leapt anywhere. Unless it was for the last donut in the box. >
  
  I literally cannot wait until I never have to hear about the Trump or the Thomas families ever again. >
  
  I still hear stories about Nixon, so I think that'll never stop. >
  
  
  “Conservative organizations and the millions of grassroots conservatives ... are united in our support of the 20 courageous members of Congress seeking to change the status quo in Washington,” said an open letter published Wednesday by the Conservative Action Project organization and signed by Thomas and about 70 other right-wing activists and organization officials.
  “We stand behind them and beside them in their courageous efforts to find a Speaker of the House who will represent the interests of conservatives,” the letter added. 
  
  some other crazies signed the letter too >
  
  How are these traitors "courageous" ? >
  
  And dick pics on Hunter Biden's lap top is the largest threat to America right now, according to these whack jobs. >
  
  They want high quality pictures to better replicate it with a 3D printer. >
  
  In case it wasn't clear already, the Thomases are motivated by hatred for civilized society. >
  
  Any sane person in her position, would be keeping very quiet right now! >
  
  Honestly, SCOTUS is pretty much all-powerful since no republicans will oppose the corrupt right-wing justices no matter what they do.  
  SCOTUS is far and away the biggest existential crisis America faces. >
  
  The crazies who storm the Capitol, fight over Kevin McCarthy, and pal around with fascist heads of state like Viktor Orbán? Imagine them controlling a branch of government with no accountability, oversight, or popular mandate.
  That's SCOTUS. >
  
  I like SCROTUS. The Republican version of SCOTUS. >
  
  Why the fuck does Ginni Thomas keep inserting herself into the normal function of government? Clarence can't stay the fuck out of it so he's gotta send his wife? His wife who tried to undermine democracy and pressure officials to overturn election results? His wife, who I reiterate, has no function in government, but can't keep her hands out of the business of the American people. Shame on the Thomas'. >
  
  
  Why the fuck does Ginni Thomas keep inserting herself into the normal function of government?
  
  She signed an open letter here along with 70 other people, that's it. it would be absolutely nothing if the Left didn't blow this up. >
  
  She should stay the fuck out of it... She literally was one of Trump's biggest advocates for his Coup. Single handily reaching out to various governors and others to go with Trump's fake electors. If she wasn't Clarence Thomas' wife, she would be nobody. She wasn't elected. She wasn't necessary and she did actual harm to the republic. What is so hard to understand for you? >
  
  
  What is so hard to understand for you?
  
  Your fetish with her. If we apply the AOC rule, why do you want to hook up with her so much? >
  
  This may be optimistic, but it feels to me like the current state of congress is similar to a fever that is about to break.  Conservatives have jumped the shark and seem to be desperately trying to attract viewers and milk out a few more mediocre seasons by having a public contest to see who can give Fox News the most outrageous soundbite to feed to their congregation.  The laughter is dying down rapidly and the country is looking at these people in silent astonishment. I know I'm not alone in wanting to be a citizen of a country with a functioning government again. >
  
  never get complacent, this isnt even their final form.  stay diligent, stay safe and vote >
  
  I stand behind those 20 as well but for completely different reasons.  I have a confession, I love to see the GOP tear itself apart. 
  I’ll go say 20 Hail Mary’s now to atone for my sins.
  Oh yeah, almost forgot. Fuck Ginny Thomas and fuck Clarence Thomas with a COVID infected cactus. >
  
  “We stand behind them and beside them in their courageous efforts to find a Speaker of the House who will represent the interests of conservatives”
  The interests of conservatives.  Let's see....Hmmm......what have conservatives expressed an interest in?  Well, for one thing, ruling over the bodies of pregnant women.  For another thing, making sure that women can't get contraception.  Somehow I think the first two things are connected.......What else?  How about turning our country into a Christian Theocracy with only their bible (and interpretations) deciding what laws we use and only their priests acting as a religious police force.
  Hanging religious banners in public schools, burning books, Stomping out Gays in specific and LBGTQ in general.  Taking away the right to vote.  Taking away the constitution.  Taking away every constitutional right from every American - less the conservative ones that is.
  She says "We" stand behind them.  Not me.  Not us.  We should stand directly in front of them in a righteous effort to define what it means to be American.  That meaning is what it always has been.  Freedom of religion.  Freedom of thought.  Freedom to vote.  Freedom to love who we choose.  And in our current environment, freedom from conservatives. >
  
  Don’t forget - she’s in an interracial marriage, which goes against conservative values >
  
  I absolutely had forgotten that (Jesus how could one forget a SC justice.....).  No doubt there is some sort of hopping logic that could be used to allow her to exist as a conservative in an interracial marriage.  These folks are real good at rabbit logic..... >
  
  NOTE: I say this ONLY because she is the spouse of a Supreme Court Justice. I would say the EXACT same thing to the husband of any female Justice.
  Sit. The. Fuck. Down. Shut. The. Fuck. Up.
  Culturally and for propriety, NO spouse of ANY Federal level judge or justice should be in the media for ANY sort of political work. They should be culturally and socially firewalled. Go donate. Go vote. Do that shit.
  That's it. She--and any other spouse of any Federal judge, even if they're on my team--doing anything in this vein is disgusting. >
  
  Yea Ginni, the US doesn’t negotiate with terrorists. >
  
  How did the other 200 Republicans rebrand themselves as not being insurrectionists? Didn’t more than an 100 of them vote against certifying the results? That leaves more than 80 minus whoever didn’t get re-elected. These 20 are the worst of the worst but you can’t pin Jan 6 on just them. Even the lead insurrectionist endorsed McCarthy for speaker. It’s the whole damn party. >
  
  Notice how after Jan 6 the Democrats haven't been led any different? Notice how they let Cheney lead the Jan 6 response? It's everybody at the top. 
  We sit and we watch the metal detectors get pulled just like we will sit and watch the next Harvey Milk get assassinated. 
  Nobody cares what time it is >
  
  I mean, today IS January 6th. It’s kind of her thing. >
  
  This b**** just needs to shut her mouth and stay out of everything. And her husband needs to resign from the Supreme Court. They are both way too old to be doing this and way too close-minded as well, just plain crazy! >
  
  So she is all for the majority buckling to the minority. It is well beyond time for moderate Republicans to cut a deal with the Dems.  We are not a monarchy which allows a small, entitled group to rule over the majority of the population. >
  
  I'd argue that we basically are, but the Kings are corporations with personhood status >
  
  I hate this pig of a human being >
  
  Pigs are lovely creatures.  Smart and affectionate.
  Ginni Thomas is a troll >
  
  
  Pigs are lovely creatures. Smart and affectionate.
  
  And extremely tasty. Don't leave that out :) >
  
  lol. “Leaps”. >
  
  The verbage in these headlines is awful. >
  
  Yea, I'd wager she's more likely to "lurch" >
  
  Like Bilbo for the ring >
  
  Good, the greater her public profile, the worse it is for the right wing of SCOTUS. >
  
  Oh good!  This is what America needs!!!^/s >
  
  She is complicit with the Jan 6 riots. >
  
  The only leaping I see Ol’ Ginni doing is continuing down her rabbit hole of bat-shittery nonsense.  She was in a real GD cult when she was younger.  Chick has been a loon for a long time. >
  
  Ewww. She just looks like she smells bad >
  
  Like an old pack of bologna. >
  
  Did she plan this for today, Jan 6th? >
  
  I’m surprised she doesn’t know “her place” - since she is a Christian women. Stay in ur lane Jennnnay - meaning the kitchen! >
  
  Why not? Consequences are for other people. >
  
  I wish she’d sit her funky traitorous ass down somewhere. >
  
  I’ve seen Ginni Thomas and I hope wherever she leaps they have a really strong floor >
  
  This is like the Royal Rumble, where a new wrestler enters the ring every 10 mins and absolute chaos ensues, except with politicians. >
  
  This traitor and hater of democracy queen of baseless conspiracies and spouse of worst supreme in fifty years should sit down and behave before charges are filed >
  
  Its like corruption stayed in the shadows until about 2016, then it decided to just go for it in broad daylight. >
  
  Most corrupt couple in the history of American politics >
  
  This is why you gotta have consequences. She got away with promoting the coup attempt, so here she is >
  
  That bloated, fat-ass bimbo needs to go home, stay there, and STFU. >
  
  Ladies and gentlemen, the captain has turned on the 'sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up' light, so could Ginny Thomas please sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up... >
  
  Look me in the eye and tell me she isn’t Mark Meadows in drag. >
  
  
  “We stand behind them and beside them in their courageous efforts to find a Speaker of the House who will represent the interests of conservatives,”
  
  Is that what they are doing? >
  
  I know it's neither here nor there, but she looks like the bloated corpse of Kristen Stewart. Normally I'd think looks are off the table, but she's an evil traitor so I don't feel too bad about it. >
  
  Is there precedent for spouses/partners of supreme court justices to be actively political?  I would think that this is a HUGE no-no for the optics alone. >
  
  I don't think she is leaping anywhere. >
  
  That broad needs to find a hobby. Seriously, start knitting or something. Eat an eskimo pie. >
  
  Ffs this lady can't keep her mouth shut for five minutes. Get a less conflict of interest hobby, ginni. >
  
  Can someone please put this treason weasel behind bars? >
  
  This woman looks like if someone put Stephen Fry in a Dolores Umbridge costume. >
  
  It’s not over until the fat lady sings. >
  
  Aren't there enough republicans who will vote for Jeffries to end this show and give a firm "no" to the MAGA terrorists?   It's difficult for their party but it's probably the best for their party in the long run.  Only way to clean out all the trash left behind by the Trump era. >
  
  Oh that's fucking rich. Imagine a literal traitor as speaker of the house, fuckin'-a. >
  
  Why is her husband still a sitting justice?  He is very clearly compromised and has a political agenda.  Impeach his ass! >
  
  Ginni Thomas leaps?  I’m quite sure we all would have felt that if it happened. >
  
  I thought that was her beaux, Kermit, doing all the leaping. >
  
  Ginni, are you sure you want to get back into the spotlight?  America has some questions that need answers from you. >
  
  She hasn’t leaped into anything other than a Golden Corral buffet. >
  
  A normal person would probably read the room and recognize that it might be a good idea to lay low for a bit in light of recent events. 
  This is not a normal person. >
  
  I’m going to need more popcorn. >
  
  Ginni Thomas is a piece of shit. She’s the reason why we have Trump. >
  
  She sure does seem awfully active in politics >
  
  This is what happens when there’s no accountability. >
  
  The lead image for this piece — Ginni laughing incredulously as Clarence lets a big one fly from his lower chamber. >
  
  Thanks for the visual of Ginni leaping into battle >
  
  Ginni hasn't lept in decades. >
  
  I still think we need to require an IQ test for any candidate for public office,  including cabinet parts and supremes. Not that they need to be geniuses, but at least in the top 50%.
  And don't wave the "but s/he graduated from X" flag, these people are dumber than dirt. >
  
  Fascist traitor says what? >
  
  What a cluster fuck!!! Are we living in a fucking cartoon? >
  
  Will we ever quit playing with these people? >
  
  Can this humanoid tub of mayo just stfu already? Has she and her pos husband not made enough of a mockery of America with their dumbshit? So sick of her and seeing her idiotic name. >
  
  The timing is conspicuous. >
  
  This lady fell in love with the attention and sense of power >
  
  Evil pig of a human >
  
  She obviously want to get into Politics. If her husband can be Supreme Court Judge  she must think "How hard could it be to be in Congress?". >
  
  I’ll never not see Christine Baskets when her face pops up. RIP and no offense to Louie >
  
  Grifters got to grift and  Ginni is the ultimate grifter. This is about raising money. And she’s crazy. And an Insurrectionist. The Dems should have impeached Clarence >
  
  Christian Nationalism is on its way. >
  
  Clarence Thomas who said during the Anita Hill hearings that he and wife spend their evenings on knees praying to God. Who believes in his ability to not be biased an d not influenced by his wife? >
  
  Well, I believe Ginni was on her knees.
  Getting a better view of the one-eyed snake... >
  
  You think they play “ slave owners wife” ? >
  
  LOL oh boy the crazy one is off her brake fluid again. >
  
  Along with nepo babies, we need to colloquialize the term nepo spouse >
  
  Treasonous Ms. Piggy needs to be shown off stage. >
  
  "Supreme Court Wife" is a job title? >
  
  She's obviously an "advisor"... >
  
  Why is this person relevant >
  
  Sloth no want McCarthy >
  
  Goddamn that’s funny lol >
  
  The wife of a Supreme Court Justice is openly weighing into discussions with the republican members of the house for speaker of the house? 
  This is so corrupt it’s ridiculous. She’s a terrible person and a sick opportunist. Clarence Thomas is a disgrace. >
  
  Please put that Ginni back in her bottle. >
  
  This horrible cow has some nerve to stick her nose back into our government after those hearings. Absolutely no morals. >
  
  This is one more data point supporting the hypothesis that this campaign is all about making Trump Speaker so they can impeach Biden and Harris and make Trump president again. >
  
  What is the plan, convince all the Republicans to do it?  Or is it a conspiracy that they all plan to do so but for some reason needed to vote for McCarthy 11 times first and then switch to Trump for no added benefit? >
  
  What the fuck does Ginnie Thomas have to do with anything?…..at all?
  She is not elected, her husband shouldn’t be involved in any of this, (but is by proxy) and she should be investigated for Whatever the fuck she thinks she’s doing.
  Edit: sorry for the rant….it just blows my mind that she seems to be involved in every shady bit of business in DC for the last 6-8 years and nobody has done a thorough investigation into why?! >
  
  
  nobody has done a thorough investigation
  
  Yes, you're right, she's been a complete mystery.
  She has been a conservative lawyer in DC working on and promoting right-wing legislation since the early 1980s and then transitioned into right-wing advocacy 10 years ago.
  But you're right - no one had ever heard of her until recently. >
  
  I think that this is a ploy by the radicals to use reverse psychology to get people that hate Ginni to vote for Mccarthy ( whom they think is hated less than her).
  No People " HE SHALL NOT PASS!". >
  
  Oh good! A new clown for the clown car has arrived! The entertainment is getting better and better from America. >
  
  She ought to leap into an orange jumpsuit. >
  
  Jesus fucking Christ >
  
  This is good, let conservatives get mad at her >
  
  The status quo in Washington is dysfunction. These 20 members are preserving that status quo. 
  She is such a terrible, ignorant person. >
  
  behind trump, she'd be the funniest nominee >
  
  Oh good, whatever the traitor says do the opposite. >
  
  I love this. >
  
  Ha, it looks like McCarthy's woes aren't stopping anytime soon. >
  
  Aunt Ginni, she’d be a fucking Aunt in Gilead for sure. >
  
  did she bring a boat to lock people up off shore at guantanemo bay? >
  
  She’s proving to be quite the simpleton >
  
  Well she's a Qcumber so that's not really surprising. >
  
  Yeah but being married to a justice… wouldn’t you at least expect her to have more synapses than you can count on one hand with missing fingers? >
  
  “Thomas has been the target of stinging criticism for her role in extremist right-wing politics even as her husband rules on issues dear to her heart.” 
  Conservatives killing any notion of the American Exceptionalism they hold so dear. >
  
  The Chief Justice needs to have a serious chat with Clarence Thomas. >
  
  Ginni  "Leaps"      what a way with words/ >
  
  He’s not “Q” enough for her. >
  
  She’s possibly the worst person >
  
  Who cares. Anyway..... >
  
  Systemic fascism again exposes itself, brazenly, from the republican Congress to the supreme court. thomas should step down. >
  
  I’m sorry but Clarence should be removed from the court. At this point there is no way to know whether or not she is using her husband’s influence to do things. He and his wife both need to be removed from public service, not just for the safety of American democracy but for the safety of all those in charge of protecting it. >
  
  Not to sound wierd, but his wife looks evil and ugly AF >
  
  They are eating each other and that's just fine. Please destroy yourselves. Split the party apart. >
  
  Truthfully curious, has there ever been a Supreme Court Justice spouse that pursued controversy & publicity at all, let alone to such a degree?
  Even without getting into the fact that she's actively involved in politics & cases that her spouse is deciding, any public visibility of the spouses would inevitably create appearances of corruption.
  I'm in my 40s & an avid history fan, but don't recall any SC Justice's spouse that ever earned any notoriety nor even minor notice. >
  
  Or who sought it out so diligently.