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  From stochastic to domestic in roughly a decade, nice.
context: Its called domestic terrorism >
  
  They're too scared to call them that because it makes the shooters look bad >
  
  and nobody wants to offend shooters, because like, what if they get mad and shoot me?
  (/s to be safe, sorry, somehow I managed to forget that there is no longer any situation in which the sarcasm of a statement can be obvious 'enough' anymore.) >
  
  "There are good people on both sides." >
  
  There's bad people, mostly on one side >
  
  Ameri-Qaeda at it again. >
  
  Y'all Qaeda >
  
  Vanilla ISIS >
  
  Yokel Haram >
  
  I mean, I SHOULD HOPE they'd be investigating domestic terrorists?! >
  
  Well, until the House cancels FBI funding because most of the bad actors happen to be Republicans >
  
  Ah yes, the republicans famous leadership strategy of “if we don’t look it didn’t happen”. Made popular by Covid and China. >
  
  Hey, don't forget how popularized it was by Russia! >
  
  
  that may be connected 
  
  We're way past 'may' be connected. The correct word here is 'how' are they connected. >
  
  It is an unconnected group of confused disgruntled individuals in no way reflecting any one political ideology. It's time to talk about how mental health issues . . . oh, wait, it's coordinated Q'Nazis champing at the bit to start Civil War II. Can't call this terrorism because it would offend . . . people. >
  
  The evergreen "mental health" excuse is such bullshit, because mental health is a major issue in America. But every single one of these conversations goes the same way:
  "It's not a gun/nazi/right-wing-propaganda issue, it's a mental health issue!"
  "Okay, so let's fund mental health care to make sure everyone in the country has access."
  "What!? No! Thats.. socialism!" >
  
  While this is purely anecdotal, anyone and everyone I know (including myself) with a mental health issue isn’t violent, at least not in the way these people want to think mental health issues “cause” violence. And last I checked “mental health issues” cross all political ideologies, class, and race. Though diagnosis and treatment is wildly biased and different between the latter two >
  
  My mental health issues occasionally result in violence. But I try to pick bar fights I know I'll lose so at least there's that. >
  
  I would still argue that’s way different than picking up a gun and shooting at someone/something associated with a different political view than you - to own the libs
  ETA: I’m sorry to hear that <3 >
  
  I use to do the same thing when I was younger and stupid. That was before it clicked with me that it was really easy for someone to fall, hit their head and dke... i didn't want to end up in jail for manslaughter, or worse, the person I fought with to end up with manslaughter.
  I'd say you're right. I see it as an extension of self destructive behaviour, not necessarily violence ror violence sake, or violence as a means of a goal.
  I do regret involving other people in my self destructive attitude. >
  
  Fun fact:  you can get a murder charge for that, not just manslaughter. >
  
  I'd think murder 2nd degree would be the most likely charge... A probability moreso than a possibility >
  
  When I was in my early twenties, I worked at a factory with a dude who did this exact thing, got charged with murder 2, pled it down, and did like ~10 years or so. Nicest guy I ever met. Did 12 hour shifts on work release every day. >
  
  Call it what it actually is! Domestic Terrorism >
  
  So, we just passed the “Political intimidation and violence” signpost on the way to becoming Iran or Nigeria. Cool. >
  
  Were unironically hitting stage 8 of the 10 stages of genocide when it comes to anti lgbtq propaganda currently. >
  
  But McCarthy just got done saying how the GOP plans to defund the FBI from the House chamber. >
  
  Ahh yes, the party of law and order.  Thin blue line.  Except for the feds apparently >
  
  We have politicians who speak like preachers, funded by corporations who own the media. These politicians tell the crazy religious gun owners that a civil war is coming. Yes it's coming because you keep telling the right wing nut jobs to kill everyone who doesn't look or think like them. >
  
  Conservatives say "WE ARE ALL DOMESTIC TERRORISTS!"
  And I believe them. >
  
  “When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time. People know themselves much better than you do. That’s why it’s important to stop expecting them to be something other than who they are.” ~ Maya Angelou >
  
  I’ve never seen the full quote before. Thank you. >
  
  More than 3/4 of extremist violence in the US is right wing.  Left wing extremist violence isn't even 2nd place, it's third, behind religious extremism.  
  The amount of right wing extremist violence has been growing for years.
  edit:  I posted sources below, in reply to a now deleted comment. >
  
  I mean honestly point to a single left wing gun violence incident, its not even a contender at all >
  
  I think left wing terrorism and extreme activism are more associated with property damage. Sabotaging equipment involved in deforestation, breaking into animal facilities to film them or release animals, burning police cars or certain business facilities, screwing with whaling ships, that sort of thing. None of it is super common that I know of, especially these days.
  Though you can still hurt people with arson or bombing buildings, and you can spread disease by fucking around animal facilities and not following the right protocols. Releasing lab animals is also a great way to feed local predators.
  But shooters aren't as big a thing, thankfully. >
  
  Attacks against corporations is only terrorism because America decided corporations count as people. >
  
  Unless they kill someone. >
  
  I'm guessing this is unrelated to the politicians and spokespersons calling for violence against Democrats, just a lone wolf or whatever >
  
  Definitely. Here in this Flat Earth (TM), if something bad happens to someone we don't like we get to show off our mental gymnastic skills. We all do it in some way. For me, it's every time I go to Taco Bell and have to sit in the shower after explosive sharts. >
  
  It’s infuriating that someone using a gun as intended auto = mental health issues in the news. People have been murdering people since, well, people.
  We have to start calling a spade a spade when it fits: this is domestic terrorism because someone wants their way and they will murder to get it. Plain and simple. >
  
  "We are all domestic terrorists" - GOP >
  
  Local proud boys, I mean, patriot front, I mean, cops be like, "don't know if it's politically motivated" >
  
  I live deep in ~~Nazi Germany~~ Central Florida and we had six people from my county charged with seditious conspiracy, including the leader of the Florida Oathkeepers, Kelly Meggs. We have an active KKK chapter here. I see Oathkeeper and Proud Boys stickers on cars on the regular.
  I haven't seen but one Trump flag in the last five months or so. I do see shit tons of "I did that" stickers on gas pumps, "Let's go Brandon" hats, tees and bumper stickers, as well as different stickers about "Joe and the Hoe." And now? Desantis hats and shirts. EVERYWHERE. People want to suck his dick so hard.
  I'd move if I could. I hate it here. >
  
  I've noticed this same thing in FL and other areas. I find it weird and don't get why people insist on buying all of these little political statements and posting them on their property/other people's property/themselves. Of course don't always know the exact reasons, but it kind of seems like they don't feel like their voice is heard enough and insist on buying these things, thinking that will change it. Almost like a psychological projection per say. They'll also turn around and say they "hate it all or its all the same and they all suck" and it's like alright, I disagree and engage with politics/news myself and yet I still don't make it my outward personality or become a walking billboard of my opinions and opinions of those I support >
  
  Its an idpol and its one that is dripping with irony. They are individualists who seek empowerment by joining a collective of rugged individuals and who show their rugged individuality by displaying the symbols of their collective. The "other" is a herd of sheep and the best way to show them how to be a rugged individualist is to join up in a different herd and make different bah noises than the other herd. >
  
  Too bad they can’t be like edgy teen goths and do their thing and leave everyone else alone. >
  
  It's a blue state here, but when you do run into conservatives, they tend to be extra crazy. Had some guy bust out cussing dems/liberals out at a traffic light during the election and wish us dead. Too bad I didn't get his plates, could be that psycho. >
  
  I live in California, and had an old Republican get super upset at me for not wanting to enter a business where the staff was unmasked, in January 2021 when 4k people were dying a day.  
  He threatened to beat me half to death.  
  Wasn't even his business.  He was just a customer.  Just insane.
  We also had one of those Trump trains terrorize our city a few times.  Blocking our fire department and hospital entry, going through neighborhoods and hammering on horns at 7 am on a Sunday... >
  
  
  Blocking our fire department
  
  The cool thing about fire engines is that they weigh a lot don't care if you're in the way, they'll push your dumb ass to somewhere more convenient and go about their merry way. And it's legal for them to do. I've actually seen this happen before on two occasions.
  And if you park near a hydrant, they'll bust out your windows to run a line, and then you get to pay for the windows and the ticket that you'll get. >
  
  And you'd better hope like heck your shattered window doesn't cut the hose they fed through you car... or you're paying for that too. >
  
  Pretty sure those hoses are leaky anyway. Your car is getting fucked. >
  
  They are indeed. >
  
  The media is terrified of the words "domestic terrorism." Utterly terrified like children. >
  
  Can't put party ideology behind bars. It's going to take a change in politics to correct the systemic problem. >
  
  Yeah, it's really hard to try to contain this stuff when we have Fox News broadcasting the same far right conspiracy theories that mass shooters are putting in manifestos >
  
  I mean, you can. You can put the people that did this in federal prison for terrorism. You can punish anyone that had a hand in starting it. You can enact something in the law that forces Fox News to tell the fucking truth if it wants to keep "News" in it's name. >
  
  
  You can enact something in the law that forces Fox News to tell the fucking truth if it wants to keep "News" in it's name.
  
  I can 100% guarantee you that if they changed from Fox News to Fox (literally anything else) not only would people still suck it all up, but they'd use the whole situation as 'THEY'RE TAKING OVER OUR MEDIA! ITS NOW A POLICE STATE' which would make everything (imo) significantly worse. >
  
  Oh yeah, you're right. Better just never do anything and let the fascism take hold. >
  
  Don't straw man me, I never said 'do nothing' 
  I was just pointing out that now only is forcing them to remove "News" from their name not only solved nothing, it will almost certainly make things worse.
  Do you really believe making them remove "News" from their name will make any sort of significant change? There are far better solutions to the complicated problem >
  
  You guys remember when conservatives said that the democrats wouldn’t be able to take the “L?” >
  
  I bet every single one of the people who were involved in this believes they need guns to fight the government Incase it becomes too tyrannical >
  
  Now liberals are buying guns in case the “fight the tyrannical government” people get too tyrannical. >
  
  Just what the gun manufacturers want from all this. Make people afraid of each other then sell to both sides >
  
  Unfortunately true. Still, I don’t trust local or federal law enforcement to protect me or my community from right wing terrorism. They keep telling us they want us dead. It’s way past time to take their threats seriously. >
  
  I don't disagree. unfortunately the merchants of death have won and we have to play by their game now >
  
  So that happened. Super normal right? >
  
  For domestic terrorists. Yes >
  
  more GOP domestic terrorism I suspect >
  
  A particular political party office and people who stand for / work for said party are being attacked, how ever could they be connected. Come on, the amount of mental gymnastics that conservatives have to do to feel like the world is out to get them is laughable. There is no need for a conspiracy here people if it quacks like a duck and looks like a duck it’s a politically motivated crime…ffs. >
  
  If Conservative Fascist Right Wingers feel this should be done to their apparent opponents, does this then free up the Left Wing Commies to do the same to the Right Wing leaders? >
  
  Governing by bullying & threats -it's the conservative way. "We don't care what the American People want. WE KNOW BETTER." >
  
  The right happily considers themselves terrorists >
  
  So can we label them domestic terrorists yet? Wtf do we take our hands off our asses? Does the doj and fbi want this to continue? >
  
  As a Canadian I’ve noticed it’s Almost 100% right wing Republicans who are fomenting or actively attacking Democratic Party candidates or offices that’s their ideology, power via violence! >
  
  These right-wing terrorists are getting out of hand. >
  
  Say the words:
  Radical Republican Terrorism >
  
  It's just regular republican terrorists. They're all radicalized and so it's not radical anymore >
  
  Hey cool, more right wing terrorism >
  
  Its really not if there will be an assassination attempt it's when. >
  
  It's already been when (see Gabby Giffords). The question is actually how many. >
  
  hey maga be very careful how far u push the American people. >
  
  Grand Old Party of Terrorism. >
  
  It's maga terrorists of course and the FBI must start cracking down on the white supremacists terrorists groups... just as soon as they get the white supremacist agents out of the FBI >
  
  But you know they'd be all over it if a BLM protestor broke a single window. >
  
  Or failed to recycle a bottle. >
  
  some people dont want ANYONE turning left in albuquerque... >
  
  Why does America have such a massive boner for letting their citizens get shot and terrorized >
  
  It isn’t all of us. It is approx half of us. >
  
  Nowhere near half, in reality.