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  Ukraine has many pro-Russian people as well as members of the government of Ukraine. I believe the elections are this year and I imagine many of these will be voted out as a lot of pro-Russian's have changed their minds about Russia since this war has started. The Russian Orthodox church appears to indeed be a branch of the Russian KGB and have been for decades. They are paying the people who are informing Russian's where the troops, armour and munitions are stored and it's amazing what $25.00 USD will buy you in Ukraine. This is about $919.46 hryvnia while the the median salary in Kiev is about 24,000 UAH (USD 881/month). $25.00 will get you  $1812.50 Russian Ruble's. 
  Many churches are being investigated for recruiting people at the moment and if these people hold Russian citizenship, why can't he do this?
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  By Decree No. 898/2022 of December 28, 2022, President Volodymyr Zelensky suspended the citizenship of a number of priests with the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.
  According to the publication's sources, Zelensky suspended the citizenship of 13 clerics of the UOC. In particular, it is about Metropolitan Ionafan of Tulchyn and Bratslav, who has been charged with treason.
  Many clergymen were found to hold Russian citizenship, store pro-Russian propaganda literature and millions in cash.
  
  
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  Many clergymen were found to hold Russian citizenship, store pro-Russian propaganda literature and millions in cash.
  
  Underaged choirboys were also "held". >
  
  What ever happens to the good o' priest who would just fuck the nuns?? >
  
  Women's liberation happened. Women deemed immoral are no longer shamed by society into the nunnery to atone for their sinful ways, so the population in the convents ends up being formed predominantly from the kind of women who actually believe in the whole chastity thing. >
  
  One of my first jobs was in the kitchens of a Catholic care home that used to be full on Magdalene Sisters.
  Severe mental disability?  In the home.  Child out of wedlock?  In the home.  Raped by your brother and kept going on about it despite being told to shut up?  In the home.
  They were elderly and institutionalised by the time I got there in the 90s and the place had been taken over by an actual care home chain.  Shocking stories though. >
  
  Holy shite you worked in a Magdalene laundry?! That’s horrific. Well a care home by then but Jesus, so awful how we let the Catholic Church treat young women in Ireland >
  
  My aunt was packed off to a Magdalene home in the 60s when she got pregnant at 18. They worked her to the bone, verbally and mentally abused her and the other women, and beat them with canes. The nuns called her a tramp and a wh0re. She said the place was like a prison and a lot of the girls & women were sexually abused by the priests and nuns.
  The moment her baby was born they took him away, she never got a glimpse of him, then they kicked her out. It took her 40 years to find him, he was in NYC and they finally met a few years ago. The Church had been taking babies from these laundries and selling them to rich Americans to adopt, it was a very lucrative business for them. >
  
  That's how part of my family came to Canada. My great (great?) Grandmother sent her two sons to stay with the church during the blitz in London and the church sold them off to some guy in Ontario to work on his farm. She came to get them back afterwards and they were gone. I dunno if she ever found them again. >
  
  
  Many clergymen were found to hold Russian citizenship
  
  So it's possible because of it. You can't legally remove the only citizenship of a human being but you can when there's several >
  
  At the level of nations, the only thing that is illegal is what that nation itself accepts as illegal, or has forced upon them as illegal through war. >
  
  So I looked it up, and according to Wikipedia, Ukraine signed the Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness, where:
  
  Absent circumstances of fraudulent application or disloyalty toward the contracting state, deprivations and renunciations of citizenship shall only take effect where a person has or subsequently obtains another nationality in replacement (article 8).
  
  So I guess they can justify it by "disloyalty toward the contracting state". >
  
  So did the UK, and they turned someone stateless precisely due to disloyalty. >
  
  She literally joined ISIS >
  
  You can be stripped off citizenship if you have one from different country. If they had RU passports, it would be a reason. Russian churches in Ukraine were just propaganda places full of agents. >
  
  Wasn’t it Norway or some such place where they had to enact laws against Russian Churches because they were essentially just government hideouts? >
  
  It's weird that the Russian Orthodox Church survived the famously atheist USSR...
  ...until you realise that the KGB had thoroughly and totally infiltrated them and turned them into an extension of the state. That's how they survived, and continue to do so. >
  
  It's not like they were a bastion of scruples before the soviets, though. Rich, venal men suckling at the teat of autocracy for 600 years. >
  
  
  It's not like they were a bastion of scruples ..., though. Rich, venal men suckling
  
  So ... just like evangelists in America? >
  
  Whew, that was close, we almost got 5 comments deep without throwing shade at the US. >
  
  Eh the evangelists here deserve a lot of criticism >
  
  Agreed… I typically get peeved at these kind of comments but honestly this is arguably relevant and 100% accurate. >
  
  I don't view this as an attack or shade on the US as a whole, either. The Evangelicals here are just a shitty group that happens to be American, it's not that being American makes them shitty.
  Plus, as you said, it's a relevant and accurate comparison. >
  
  It is kinda funny that they "happened to me American". They were deported there. Europeans countries saw an easy way of getting ris of all the religious nut jobs back in the day, and they took it. So there is a good reason all these different churches are around America and not to the same extent in Europe. >
  
  Cue Tucker Carlson raving about Zelensky’s war on Christianity. >
  
  Lol he was already raving about it before the plan even went through.
  Claimed that they were banning the entire Ukrainian Orthodox Church. Not even making this up. >
  
  Carlson's hypocrisy on Ukraine has been breathtaking as usual.
  Another narrative he made up was that Zelensky was turning into a dictator because the state took partial control over TV networks for emergency broadcasts. The execution of that were pretty much identical to the emergency plan in the USA, which Fox News certainly know about.
  And of course he saw that narrative confirmed when Ukraine banned some small pro-Russian opposition parties, many of whose leaders had already fled to Russia and were actively supporting the invasion. >
  
  At some point Ukraine is going to have to denounce Fox as being an extension of the kremlin’s propaganda network. It isn’t quite as bad as RT, but tucker and co are sure trying to make it so >
  
  Ukraine can't afford to risk US aid, so they just have to suck it up and try to appease Republicans. As painful as it is. >
  
  "If you love it so much, why don't you live there?", but in the best way possible. >
  
  Yikes, sounds like someone is looking for an excuse to express awful thoughts...
  Going to a country to be part of free society but still enjoying a different culture is light-years away from subverting and assaulting a country for personal wealth and power. >
  
  My dude, I'm the kid of a middle eastern father and European mother. I've seen at least as many European men talk about women as objects or property as the Muslim men. Turns out, sexism comes in different flavors but people like you love to create drama about someone else to mask your own.  
  If anything, I've noticed the people that complain about migrants are hardly feminists themselves. They'll just as easily say that Europe has lost its way and women should return to more "traditional" values. 
  So yes, you are either blind in the mirror or a racist. But when you say that, the "Europeans" feel attacked. >
  
  Yes, men all over the world have issues when it comes to objectifying women. The question at hand is whether or not these men act out physically against them. 
  The data on that issue is clear. Migrants are much more likely to commit sexual crimes against women (2 to 4 times more likely)
  Here is the Finnish study
  And here is the French study >
  
  And were these studies conducted on immigration of limited specific cultures, limited specific ethnicities, or to limited specific countries? Or was it done on immigration of varying immigrants to varying countries? >
  
  Did they fail to realize they're at war? Aid and comfort to the enemy is typically considered treason. One of them is charged with that. They could all have suffered a fate much worse. >
  
  The Russian orthodox faith is more like a state (Russian state that is) religion. So all of the clergy are loyal to Russia. >
  
  And apparently the Russian Orthodox clergy is an intelligence agency. Which is less surprising when you remember that the head of it is a former KGB agent. >
  
  At one point in the 1980s every Russian bishop and the vast majority of priests were KGB informants. >
  
  Unsurprising.  The real purpose of this "church" is to promote Kremlin propaganda and recruit spies.  It is an organ of the state and it's so called priests are nothing more than agents of the Kremlin. >
  
  Stripping their citizenship is fairly mild then considering there's a fair argument for considering them enemy combatants. >
  
  Spies, not combatants.
  Enemy combatants are generally protected under the Geneva convention. Enemy spies, under the convention, can be hanged or stood in front of a firing post.
  Here's Nazi spies being executed by US soldiers in WW2 Belgium (NSFW). This would not be legal if it were enemy intelligence officers (or NCMs) rather than covert spies.
  Stripping the dual-citizenship holders of their UA nationality is absolutely a fairly mild outcome, given the circumstance. >
  
  So do they get deported to Russia? Then get sent back to the front line Ukraine to get killed as a Russian Conscript? >
  
  Pretty much. >
  
  It sounds bad until you read the whole story. They hold Russian citizenship and are paid to be part of the propaganda machine. >
  
  Yep, open and shut case of treason. Thats a fair reason to lose citizenship imo. Especially during wartime. >
  
  Surprised they did not prosecute them for treason instead. But I suppose doing this will just bait Moscow to either offer these traitors citizenship if they already were not russian citizens or leave these pricks in limbo. >
  
  i wish people would realize that every russian institution and their branches are influenced by FSB.
  I also wish that people would realize that the only banned ukrainian opposition party is the one with direct traces to russia, and it's STILL not completely outlawed - the members just change the name of the party and hide.
  like, Medvedchuk, one of the leaders of banned OPFL. his daughters' godfather is literally Putin. Putin's relative himself founded the biggest opposition party of Ukraine.  like we proposed to exchange him for our prisoners, and russia literally agreed. what more proof do you need man.
  Russia has an insanely vast and developed spy network. it's a country run by KGB. every russian is a potential agent. sometimes it's so obvious it's not even funny.
  It's too bad that some people just refuse to listen >
  
  Nice pfp😎👍 >
  
  thanks lol, likewise >
  
  probably fake priests but planted russian spies