comment: >
  
  scam
context: Yo, I'm a keycap maker... I can fix that stem for you. If the seller doesn't get back to you, let me know. >
  
  Not all heroes wear capes >
  
  Haha thanks. I've been working on making keycaps for the past 4 years. I wanted to see if there was a way to add a "keycap repair"  to my list of options. Seems like an easy fix with my set up. >
  
  Yooo I have a set of Frost Witch where the K key stem broke, if I paid for shipping and labor, would you fix it for me? Feel free to pm me if so o: I’ve been looking for a way to fix it for a while but I haven’t had much time >
  
  Are those cherry keycaps? I mostly work with dsa and sa families, but I think I could make it work. Dm a photo! >
  
  My cherry popped, can you fix it? >
  
  Cherries are a social construct. Apple too actually. >
  
  Have you heard of Adams apple? >
  
  I have been trying to reach you about your extended Eve's rib warranty >
  
  Now thats some next level customer service ❤️, sounds like a good deal u/Sipositoire >
  
  We just want everybody is happy when using our keycap and also satisfy with our service 💗 >
  
  Are the cherry profile keycaps any good yet. The one I bought just looked like a blob. >
  
  What kind of stabilizers are those? I’ve heard Staebies can have tolerance issues. >
  
  stock stab from Keychron V1 >
  
  welcome to resin hell, i paid $91 for mine just for it to warp and become as usable as yours - unusable. 
  i hate resin stabilizer keys. >
  
  The keycap warped? >
  
  Resins have a natural warp overtime >
  
  Yeah, but I believe it depends on the kind of resin you use. I use deep pour resin that holds its shape, it just takes forever to cure. >
  
  so it's pretty much the same trade-off as with concrete. either you add agents to let it cure quick and it won't hold long, or it takes forever to harden and will also last forever. >
  
  Get a refund? >
  
  No answer from the seller >
  
  I hate to say this but name and shame. No reason why anyone else should get ripped off >
  
  The reason why OP's getting ripped off is because he is stupid enough to get scammed and spend  €120 on a spacebar lmaoo. >
  
  Wrong sub lol >
  
  I mean, he's kinda right. OP paid 30 bucks more for a clone than Jellykey would charge them for an original in better quality >
  
  I wholeheartedly agree with you, but it’s not abnormal to spend way too much on things in keebland >
  
  spill the seller account/shop here so we can avoid it >
  
  Probably some etsy dropshipper lol >
  
  Yeah these Etsy JellyKey clones are usually pretty easy to spot since they're usually just some colored resin poured onto a plastic fish. Not to say this isn't what JellyKey does, but they also have a lot more depth to their designs and custom modeling work done. >
  
  Also their stuff is handpainted iirc >
  
  man paid 120€ for a space bar 💀 >
  
  To be fair the spacebar itself is hand-made and uses resin insted of plastic. The person who made it may have worked on it for days.
  But yea... they should contact the seller about it asap. >
  
  Resin is plastic. >
  
  Don’t bring your facts in here >
  
  I mean technically it is a form of it, but it doesn't change the fact that it's still very different than what everyone is thinking of when someone says plastic, also doesn't change that resin is in fact more expensive than just regular plastic, which is the original point the guy is trying to make. >
  
  Except the fact that it's resin has very little to do with the price. The time taken by the artist to make it is where the cost comes from >
  
  That's definitely a huge factor as well. I'm not an artisan maker so I don't know specifics, but material cost difference still is definitely a factor as well.
  After reading some more in this comment section, it looks like it definitely shouldn't cost this much according to jellykey who is a very prominent resin artisan maker, but it's still up there due to what we were saying.
  Also I was now able to calculate more specific numbers. Going off this site epoxy resin comes down to almost exactly $3 per pound while ABS comes out to about $1.65 per pound >
  
  How much do you think resin costs? >
  
  Oh don't get me wrong, I don't mean to say it's a boatload more, but it isn't negligible. I briefly looked into it making sure I wasn't speaking out of my ass, and everything I looked at did say it was more expensive. I found this site which granted is 3d printing, but is nice, because it actually gives numbers and specifically says ABS (which is what I'd say the majority of keycaps are made of). It also has specifically material cost and then separates and calculates other costs afterward. >
  
  I do 3D printing, that's not the type of resin they use.  They use boring old epoxy resin in a mould. >
  
  Have you complained to the vendor/maker? >
  
  yeah no answer yet >
  
  May I ask who it was sold from. If it's a group/vendor, it's very possible that they may be out for the weekend and you may have to wait until Monday for a response. If there's a discord, you may get a quicker response from someone just happening to check there. If it's etsy or something, I hear their return policies aren't bad. >
  
  I'll wait some days before saying who's the seller, because he's really good notation on Etsy >
  
  Why are you protecting a keycap seller who profits on the work of others at a mark up over the original! >
  
  My condolences sir! >
  
  ngl I'm cry rn >
  
  crying >
  
  :( 
  "This too shall pass."
  :) >
  
  Momma said like the rain (This, too, shall pass)
  Like a kidney stone (This, too, shall pass)
  It's just a broken heart, son
  This pain will pass away
  Puscifer - Mama Sed >
  
  That is repairable! >
  
  Gorilla glue that shit >
  
  Do you have the piece that broke off? Krazy glue brand super glue may be able to fix this if so! >
  
  That's unacceptable. Feel free to share the seller, if they don't resolve this for you. >
  
  
  120$ spacebar on a keychron with gat yellows >
  
  and >
  
  your spacebar is more expensive than the board including the switches most likely. >
  
  annnnd ? >
  
  it's just weird/dumb/funny/whatever when a single keycap ~~is worth~~ cost more than the whole setup it's going into. >
  
  ...  ~~is worth~~  cost more ... >
  
  true. Big difference. >
  
  I miss when Etsy was full of legit makers and not people dropshipping stuff from AliExpress at overly inflated prices. >
  
  Indeed, this is how many great sites went downhill, they got infested by dropshippers who sell 1$ items for 50$ on sites, making people think {Expensive=quality}. when its actually a 1$ item. >
  
  Shocking. I could never justify a space bar that cost that much even if it wasn’t broken. >
  
  Bro wtf 120€ just for a spacebar HUH?? >
  
  yup >
  
  Something about fools and money seem appropriate here >
  
  Damn, I'm sorry man. What is the maker so I know to avoid? >
  
  So, whoever sold you this cloned a design from JellyKey, charged you MORE than an original, and then refuses to replace a broken and unusable keycap - and you're still trying to protect them by not publishing the name? Fuck it. They had it coming. Time to tell us who sold you this to make sure nobody of us will buy from them and get in the same situation! >
  
  Perfect they deserve some  ignominy.
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  These type of sellers do not deserve protection. there is no reason to protect their store name even if it is just a "review". 
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  I still do not get why people are afraid for releasing such info, even when the store name is a public name... >
  
  Ignorant outsider here… but… why on gods green earth is one key so expensive? >
  
  Bullshit nonsense that this sub will try to justify to u lol >
  
  Our goal isn't to justify this to you and convince you to buy one. We're just trying to say why we like this stuff. If you want to disagree, be my guest. >
  
  Every comment asking why its so expensive is downvoted to oblivion with "uhm akshually artisan blah blah" excuses lmao >
  
  Well, the main point that most people (I hope) are trying to make is that they buy it because they think it looks pretty. That's how things go for every nearly every hobby. A Mont Blanc fountain pen isn't gonna make you Shakespeare but it sure as hell does feel nice, so people buy them. A Hermes handbag doesn't work any better than a regular Walmart handbag, but it looks nice so people buy them. >
  
  People in these comments acting surprised about an expensive spacebar like there aren't builds in this subreddit that are 10x the price and sets going 5x the price >
  
  Yeah, it can be fixed, but for that price, it shouldn't need to be fixed >
  
  Feels bad man >
  
  It’s so beautiful!!! Hope you can get it fixed! >
  
  taking a moment to acknowledge this dude spent $120 on a single keycap lol >
  
  Played urself >
  
  For 120€??? Fuck for that price Ill just learn to make my own keycaps >
  
  Say it with me:  CHARGEBACK >
  
  That is a beautiful spacebar >
  
  I've been subscribed here to look at pretty keyboards.
  Have y'all been spending 120 bucks on single keys this entire time? >
  
  Some do. Look into HelloCaps 'bongo' sculpt, pretty sure those go for around 100 bucks raffle price, but I've seen plenty of 'em resold for $300-$500. One single cap.
  That's not even as bad as it gets.
  Artisans are still cool imo, some just wind up with really inflated values because yes they are handmade and yes they are limited and no you can't get one anywhere else >
  
  I am PRO €120 spacebar, however that sucks. Definitely complain to vendor, im sure the fix wouldn’t take long and wouldn’t require them to make a whole new product! >
  
  I don't necessarily mind $120 for a full 7u spacebar, especially considering some of the designs some makers have put out in the past (like JellyKey), but unfortunately there's way too many clones that obviously skimp on design to push costs down and pump out keys but still charge a premium which seems to be the case with this cap OP bought. Even JellyKey themselves don't charge this much for a spacebar (at least MSRP), and tbh most sellers shouldn't be charging more than ~$30 for a non-spacebar artisan. >
  
  Sometimes I wonder if I should start a niche resin keycap business that sells $100 a pop when cost is max $3. >
  
  120?
  Hundred twenty? With a zero? >
  
  Yep >
  
  120 bucks for a f*ckin spacebar. Wtf? >
  
  120 pounds is way too much force for a spacebar
  what did you throw a bowling ball at it?
  I'll see myself out >
  
  Unfortunately that is the Euro symbol, not the pound symbol >
  
  The problem here isn't the broken stem. The problem is that someone was willing to pay 120£ for a spacebar. >
  
  Damn that sucks.. I was thinking about artisan keycaps, but now I’m thinking about it again :/ 
  Keep us up, about what’s happening! Hopefully you’ll get refunded or a new one! >
  
  Thanks dude >
  
  It may be repairable. Cut remainder of post off. Cut post of an extra Keycap. Make sure post is flat on both ends. Glue new post into space bar. Use epoxy glue.Use dremel tool to cut the post out of the sacrificial keycap. I have a resin space bar with the same issue. I am going to try the same solution. >
  
  The best keycaps to use are those flat top keycaps where you can put some paper under
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  Which makes less room for error as you already have a flat surface to work with >
  
  I had a jelly key that done this once, they offered to replace it right away but I ended up repairing myself with a spare switch and some epoxy, still going strong 3 years later >
  
  This isn’t a JellyKey. It’s a knock-off. The originals are like $30-$40 CHEAPER than OP paid. >
  
  Serves you right for getting such a beautiful spacebar. >
  
  I had this happen to me. Same thing, same break. Told the seller and they gave me a refund and just said “warped in shipping nothing to do”. So I got my refund but… I want my keycap too :( >
  
  Keyboard noob here, but why does a spacebar keycap such as this cost 120€? Whats the manufacturing like? Hand made? >
  
  yeah it is handmade in resin >
  
  well, the price is not based on quality in the keycap game :p >
  
  i don't think this is acceptable a that price point ?
  how many years were it in use ? >
  
  2 minutes >
  
  F >
  
  Hi, I am a keycap maker from Vietnam and have my own store on Etsy as well. You can let me know your address so that I can give you a new spacebar for free. Therefore, you will know the real quality of keycaps made from Vietnamese makers. >
  
  You are nuts if you paid 120€ for that. >
  
  How or why did u pay 120€ for a keycap? O.o
  Damn some "Hobbys" go to far... XD >
  
  120€... Is it made it diamonds? Can you show the full picture? >
  
  I'm sorry, 120€ for just the space bar?  You're out of your fucking mind. >
  
  Deserved if you pay fucking 120€ for a plastic piece… >
  
  This is handmade in resin >
  
  Me personally, I wouldn’t let that slide. >
  
  Who's the fucking retard paying that kinda money for a FUCKING SPACEBAR? Thats a months income for some folks in South Africa. Insane. >
  
  That’s like 3 times more expensive than my whole keyboard lol (it’s a trashy one) >
  
  Same thing that happened with my artisan key cap. Spent 40€ (plus shipping) and it broke three months later. Contacted the seller and they asked me to pay again at a reduced rate (plus shipping) for a replacement and Etsy washed its hands saying they can't do anything. >
  
  Thanks a lot for this comment. I don't think I'll ever go to this length for 40€ but it's amazing having this kind of ammunition at disposal. >
  
  The service itself is 100% free to use, Though it is indeed the Financial interest that would be the problem, if it comes to mediation [which is often NOT free].
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  At least it is one of the many perks of having proper consumer protection that you can use such a tool/service, without being forced to go to court right away, if you cannot solve it with the "seller/other party". >
  
  Now, I understand hobbies and all of that shit, but why would anyone spend 120$ on ONE KEY? >
  
  why not >
  
  Who spends that much on space key! >
  
  Most of this sub probably would >
  
  Your mistake was that you bought a spacebar for 120 >
  
  Why would you come on a subreddit for mechanical keyboard hobbyists and then hate on the mechanical keyboard hobby? >
  
  It's a consumerist hobby for sure but that doesn't mean we must all abandon any notion of common sense and value for money. Quite the opposite, actually. >
  
  I feel like this hobby is one of the most entitled in terms of small/"artisan" (the person, not the keycap) creators; 120 euros seems like an incredibly reasonable price considering the amount of work that probably went into creating the piece. >
  
  Except it’s a knock-off that’s 3D printed and NOT hand painted. It’s a freaking resin single pour. This is like $15 cost tops. 
  Even the originals from JellyKey are like $40 cheaper than that. OP didn’t do their research and unfortunately got taken by cheap work at stupid prices. >
  
  That's what happens when you spend the amount of a whole keyboard on a spacebar >
  
  You dont go on this sub much, eh? >
  
  I peruse sometimes but I still cant understand the nerdgasm jerking off culture over keyboards. I enjoy keyboards and everything but I just cant get it. >
  
  I mean, it's like custom furniture. An Ikea cabinet will cost you, say $150, but a custom design will cost you thousands more. These are customs and usually sold in limited supply.
  Just think of it as some people enjoying artisan things, and others thinking it's not worth their time. >
  
  I can’t believe someone that was good enough to put in a box to ship. >
  
  Kinda what you deserve for paying 100 dollars for a space bar lmfao. Consoooomers are unreal ☠️☠️ >
  
  You're in a fucking hobbyist subreddit with people spending hundreds of dollars on keycaps constantly. 
  What do you expect to see here?
  "Mechanical keyboards and artisanal keycaps" is not what you search up when you're looking for frugal people. >
  
  Is everything ok at home? You’re getting angry over a spacebar… >
  
  Everything is fine at home.
  I'm just tired of 14 year old edgelords "consumers are stoopid" "consumption is dumb" dick wagers who dont' understand that some people make enough money to have a hobby that makes them happy. 
  If you don't like this hobby then leave. >
  
  You can enjoy the hobby but dislike the hyperconsumerism around it. I bought one keyboard and didn’t feel the need to buy or participate in whatever flavour-of-the-month group buy that immortalises your love for some weird Chinese cartoon or K-pop star.
  At some point you have to realise this shit is absolutely weird and obsessive. >
  
  Let. People. Enjoy. Things. >
  
  Im new to this hobby and my other one is board games. For that money I could buy a huge, deluxe, designer game full of intricate sculpts and components. You spent it on a spacebar. This community is wild. Its... a space bar >
  
  If you're into board games, surely you know that people pay big bucks for custom painted figures for games like Warhammer. This artisan keycap would be the keyboard hobby equivalent of that. >
  
  thats a hobby trying to be a business. and ultimately on you for buying it >
  
  What are you on bro, read up on consumer protections >
  
  Congratulations >
  
  If i were you i would buy a unicomp model m