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  Doesn't matter how many more men you throw into the meat grinder the result is going to be the same: dead Russian soldiers!! 🇺🇦
context: Half a million conscripts? This "special military operation" is getting out of hand... >
  
  I wonder what guns will be given, or if they will resort to rocks now. >
  
  “When the one with the rifle gets shot, the one with the bullets picks the rifle up and keeps going!” >
  
  I like how ww2 historians try to attempt to debunk the asiatic horde myths of the Russian army only for putin to come along and say "we're gonna turn this myth into a reality" (obviously russia isnt actually throwing their troops at the ukraniand) >
  
  Lets be honest. if putin had a supply of catapults in one of his warehouses, he would 100% be throwing actual troops at the enemy. >
  
  He keeps having problems getting new missiles and artillery, this is going to become the default option. >
  
  Such an insane opportunity cost to this war.
  500k is 0.69% of the Russian labor force.
  Pair this with the 110,000 dead and the 300,000 already mobilized late last year, and before you even account for sanctions, Russian GDP will be decreasing. It's hard to fight a war when you empty the factories and warehouses. >
  
  You need to also include the hundreds of thousands of Russians who fled the country. >
  
  I'm a bartender in a 5* hotel in Greece. There's been a sudden increase of Russian men between the ages of 25-35 with their wives/girlfriends "passing through".  One couple that wasn't "passing through" stayed about 2 weeks looking to buy a house. >
  
  Must be amazing to have that kind of money. To just leave and go look for a house >
  
  Tbf they don’t even necessarily have all that much money, but you’d be shocked what you would consider if the alternative is dying in Ukraine. ~~Also Greece isn’t that expensive by EU standards~~ >
  
  I love how you crossed the last part >
  
  I live in Sweden. Hearing about prices in Greece from friends make me double take for how cheap they seem to me. Just European things >
  
  Unfortunately not cheap if you're on a Greek salary. >
  
  So Greece is a country for all people...that aren't from Greece. >
  
  Fuckin glad I wasn't born in Russia >
  
  I’d just defect as soon as possible >
  
  If you could
  That Russian propaganda is strong if you get bombarded with it from a young age >
  
  I think Russia will talk up its manpower resources and stay mute on the reality of their inability to equip or train them.  They were not able to mobilize more then half of what they desired in the last round and I think that will not change in the future. >
  
  It's useless. Wives and relatives of mobilized men talk about it all the time in social networks >
  
  True, and these discussions are a treasure trove of information.  But "officially" Russia will posture other positions and ignore or deny the undercurrent happening in the social networks. >
  
  Disgusting on so many levels. >
  
  It is their war doctrine >
  
  A shame it's impossible to invest in the russian coffin industry. >
  
  As if they bring their dead back ... >
  
  “Uhhh yeah, your son… deserted… he definitely didn’t die and we definitely didn’t cremate his body near the front, so you will not be receiving any state payments.” >
  
  They have weapons, uniforms etc.? Not to mention supply lines, fuel, comms? Or is their role just to take one ukrainian bullet each? >
  
  Why should Putin care about equipment and uniforms when he can just send waves after waves of mobiks and conscripts as cannon fodder. >
  
  Exactly.  And the numbers can overwhelm Ukrainian ammo, as we saw in Bakhmut.  It’s cheaper to use slave labor as cannon fodder and overwhelm with numbers than worry about armaments. >
  
  I mean, is it really working in Bakhmut? They’ve been throwing literally tens of thousands of troops into that meat grinder for the better part of four months, and they haven’t captured it. 
  They’ll probably never capture it. The Ukrainians are just using it as one big wound to bleed the Russians dry. >
  
  That YT channel is a Russian cesspit tbh.  So is your other link downthread.  Lots of pro-Putin comments liked by the uploaders?  More than a little suspicious. >
  
  Thank you for the information, I’ll check out the others. >
  
  I apologise if my reply came off a bit harsh. Wasn’t intentional. I’ve had to defend my position/comments many times in the past and I’ve grown to be more assertive.
  Thank you, the YouTube channels who give map updates are actually cool resources to see how the war is progressing; you learn things we don’t see on regular news. 
  Most also give insights into stuff like how and why a manoeuvre or attack might be happening or what a certain situation might mean or the consequences of certain military actions. Things we don’t really think about but can be fascinating to know. >
  
  No worries, I’m glad you mentioned the background of the channel owners, and I appreciate you taking the time to write it out.  (The comments ARE a cesspit though, I had to stop reading them as there was nothing interesting nor enlightening). >
  
  there isn't enough equipment. these guys will be headed to winter war in sneakers, jeans and equipped with a selection of kitchen utensils for the weaponry.
  A lot of Ukrainian soldiers will develop PTSD from having to kill so many people. >
  
  Of course there is enough equipment. Just collect all the items you need to fight the enemy from the corpses of your dead comrades. After 10-15 bodies you should have enough gear to last you 2 days before you'll also be gunned down and have someone else continue to use your equipment! It's a fool proof strategy! >
  
  How about making a video game based on that idea? Let‘s call it DayZ or PUBG. 
  This whole story is just sad and stupid on so many levels. >
  
  Russia doesn't have to officially "mobilize" anyone. Men get summons, have to appear, and find themselves on a train to Belgorod soon, and that's all. Nobody's counting them or keeping track. They have been, all this time, public mobilization or not. Telegram channels are full of people talking about getting summoned, even though there's no official mobilization. >
  
  Putin : Where we’re going, you won’t need eyes to see. >
  
  liberate tutemet >
  
  ex inferis >
  
  zerg tactics >
  
  Give some credit to the zergs atleast. They have the command structure, the speed AND the economy to support this >
  
  russia is the zerg that gets supply blocked because they bunched up all of their overlords and they exclusively engage the enemy off creep. >
  
  Jesus just stop. Stop it. This is madness. The countless lives of your own people you’re destroying. >
  
  That has never been a concern for Russian leaders, and the people knows that, they have centuries ago resigned themselves to this fate, not out of malice, but of ignorance of another option. Those that realised another life was an option are the ones that left Russia. >
  
  Hopefully they change this by revolting and stringing up in the streets the people responsible for this war. >
  
  The only way that happens is with another populist option to follow. Just look a century ago during 1917-1918.
  The Russian people have been so ground down over the centuries by brutal authoritarians that the idea of “get rid of bad leader now and we’ll figure out the rest after” is gone. >
  
  Pro-war Russians, here is your chance to go fight for the motherland.
  Crickets … >
  
  Stupid waste of lives. >
  
  I wouldn't be surprised if this rumour has been pushed out by the Kremlin. It's called reflexive control. >
  
  500k is a lot, that’s more then D Day. Putin needs to get sent to hell asap. >
  
  Full on Ghosts of the Ostfront shit. >
  
  "Russia donates ~82,500,000 pounds of fertilizer to enrich Ukrainian soil." >
  
  Guess, it's time to get out my Josephrina Joestar ~~cosplay~~ disguise. >
  
  Hah, I had same idea. Should've ordered some women's clothing in case I need to go to shop >
  
  You mean more of the guys who were firing on their own tanks and deserting? Okay. >
  
  The only good  thing that this will bring is making the "lonely horny russian women" adverts more believable! >
  
  Meat Grinder in full effect. >
  
  I feel so sorry for all those little children that will lose their fathers. >
  
  How many more bodies is Mr. Putin going to throw in the meat grinder? Will the Russian people continue to support his actions as they lose countless numbers of men, young and old to this senseless war? Is it even possible for the Russian people to stand up against this war? >
  
  Already over 100,000 Russians casualties (mostly dead or disabled).
  They don't know when to admit defeat. >
  
  100k total casualties, not deaths. Last I heard anyways. Still absolutely insane, though. >
  
  No, Ukraine is claiming 100,000 and 400,000 casualties.  Russia is claiming something much, much smaller.    Others have different estimates somewhere in the middle.  I think the UK estimate was something like 60k and 200k.
  When Ukraine claims killed, they usually mean kill not casualties.  Now whether the number they come up with is accurate is another story.  Unfortunately we're never likely to know the true losses of this war. >
  
  Well take what both sides say with a huge grain of salt. The US and UK sources estimated 100k casualties on both sides just a few weeks ago. They believe the Russian have a much higher KIA to wounded ratio than the Ukrainians, but no independent sources come even close to 400k casualties. >
  
  all the armchair generals on telegram are saying that Russians are taking heavier losses as they are an invading force, something like 3-5:1 deaths vs a dug in defender, probably some truth in that if they're all saying it, Im barely an armchair private so cant comment really >
  
  Traditionally, an attacker to defender ratio must be at least 3:1 for an attacker to succeed, and that would be presuming heavy causalities on both sides. However, this is a relatively oversimplified theorem as modern warfare is extremely nuanced. However, at a face value, taking 3-5 casualties per defender casualty is plausible. >
  
  What are they planning to arm them with? Kitchen knives? Or has Putin gone all battle of Stalingrad where he gives one man a pistol and tells 20 others to follow him? >
  
  Reportedly Russia couldn't equip the initial wave of conscripts properly and they could barely arm them with functioning weapons so I can't see how they are going to manage more than double that.  I wouldn't be surprised to see them try a second wave but I doubt it would have much impact except to throw them into the grinder while draining the Russian economy of much needed workers.  They don't seem to have any forces capable of punching through Ukrainian lines which is where an advantage could be established with large forces.  
  The only way it makes sense is if the Russians think they can force Ukraine into a settlement through attrition which has basically never worked. >
  
  Fall back, bomb the supply lines, let February do the rest >
  
  Russia couldn't even properly equipped or train the first 300,000 so how do they expect to do it with the next 500,000? >
  
  Does Russia even have that much zinc? >
  
  Cargo 200 ready for delivery >
  
  because the last mobilization went so well? >
  
  I mean it did it effectively stopped Ukraine from making huge breakthrough. Although I think they will mostly send the recruits to bakhmut >
  
  Jesus Christ. A whole generation of young men, and for what ? An unstable dictator's post Soviet wet dream. >
  
  They also claimed that on 5th of January borders will be closed and new wave of mobilization will start. I'm not saying we shouldn't believe them at all, but for now all these claims just look like fuel for Russian propaganda. Can't find an easier way to convince the masses that "they're all always lying".
  Also can't wait to see more comments mocking people who are being forcibly sent to die. >
  
  And arm them with what? Rocks!? 🤣🤣🤣 >
  
  You are pretty optimistic in assuming they would be armed. >
  
  Ah! You're right, every other soldier would get a rock. Hahaha 🤣 >
  
  If the one in front of you dies, pick up his rock and go forwards >
  
  They're already having trouble supplying their conscripts, how are they going to supply another 500 000 of them? >
  
  Maybe that was the actual reason they sent a bunch of troops to Belarus. I got nothing to back that though. >
  
  I wonder how gathering 500k forced volunteers will go. If they do manage those numbers... Are they going to fight via dance off, or get up close and personal with a thumb wrestle?
  It's going to be like the zombie wave scenarios in games/movies. >
  
  Last 300k didn’t really last a while. >
  
  I feel so bad for the soldiers being sent to their deaths. No training, poor or non-existent equipment, food, etc. Just fodder for Putin's ego. >
  
  Don't be. They go volunteerely. There is an alternative to pay about $500 penalty, or go to jail for 3 years. >
  
  No they don’t
  The mobilized are 30-50 year old reservist units mostly from eastern Russia if not completely void of moscovites
  The telegram channel has videos of Asian looking Russians saying they “served in the 90s and now are on the Ukrainian frontlines”
  No bullshit >
  
  How does it contradict a fine or a couple of years in jail as an alternative to mobilisation? >
  
  Sergei, tell Ivan down at the Lada factory that production will increase to 500,000 vehicles. 
  As a reward for the already 110,000 we've delivered to families, Mr Putin has cut wages and now approved 23hour shifts. 
  This will improve moral across the board. >
  
  Families of ruzzia are: We can not lose.
  If he comes back, we get a toilet. If not, we get a Lada. >
  
  Except a lot of the soldiers killed are just listed MIA so the families don't get the payout.  Even many the families of sailors on the Moskva were told their children were missing after the ship sank... >
  
  Blood for the blood god. 
  Seriously is Putin a comic book villain... >
  
  It is now a major European war. >
  
  Meanwhile, Ukraine is preparing to process 500K defectors >
  
  Well, the Ukrainians called it. They gave those Russian boys a fair warning. Next will be the closing of the border for any that are now moving too late. Lambs to the slaughter. >
  
  The world sends tanks to Ukraine and Russia just sends more people to their death >
  
  fertilizer for Ukraine fields >
  
  Conscripts sounds like a pretty term for dragging anyone with a pulse into a war :( >
  
  In other words, 500,000 ammunition for Russian commanders. >
  
  God, half a million people… >
  
  I once heard someone describing a Russian mountaineer he was climbing with. 
  They were approaching 8000ft and were coughing up blood whilst slowly being frozen to death. 
  The Russian was laughing like it was nothing and the American simply said 'it's like he enjoys this suffering, but then again, he is Russian, suffering is in their DNA'. 
  I think its true, and that's why Russians will continue to destroy their population, lose quality of life and suck it up, as its happened to them throughout history, they know no better. >
  
  Until US intelligence confirms it, this claim is worthless. Ukrainian sources have been wrong over and over on so many claims. >
  
  Didn't they claim Putin is on death's door again just this week? >
  
  Unfortunately, blatant propaganda on both sides is commonplace in war.  Both sides keep claiming they've killed 100,000+ of the other side, or that the other is retreating, running out of weapons, etc.
  Only third parties can verify these claims to some extent now, and only fully when this is over with eyes on the ground assessing war crimes and casualties. >
  
  I don’t doubt that this war is a hot war but there’s no way there’s over 100,000 KIA on each side in my opinion. I am pro Ukraine as they come but seeing +5-700kia being posted daily like who believes that, that’s a 9/11 every 4 days lol >
  
  United States top general said 100k causilties on both sides, I know that's different than Kia but still. >
  
  Between people fleeing Russia and the deaths..truly a sacrificed generation, all for an abhorrent invasion
  I have to admit in regards to Russia civilians, for most, I have trouble seeing them as enablers of this war with all the brainwashing and repression, more like victims for most, if they show any signs of protest they are in big trouble, must be terrifying… >
  
  People are taken by police for standing with clear paper... Personally I think repressions started overweight brainwashing this year >
  
  What I'm see is," Russia preparing to lose 500,000 more of it's young generation. >
  
  Break out the spears. >
  
  Russia is not preparing a new round of mobilization as they have just continued the first mobilization far beyond 300.000 as well as putins refusal of signing a decree that the mobilization target has been reached and now stopped - it never happened >
  
  More human fertilizer for Ukraine >
  
  Aww, congratulations, you are going to war. Now get warm clothes, you sure hell  not gona get it from the army. Bring tourniquet you gona fking need it. 
  The if you want to sleep bring a sleeping bag it's cold as fuck. And again NO the Russian army want give that to you.
  Now that you have warm clots and sleeping bag and first aid kit. 
  Download tor browser. Congratulations, you now have Internet. Look up World war2 weapons Russia. Learn it. If you get any weapons, this will be it.
  Then fast as you can run, go to a gun range lern how to shot. You will get no training from the Russia military. If you don't believe me. Open tor again, and you will see manny videos of Russian men with no training. No weapons crying been forced to the front line. 
  Say good by to every thing you love. Soon, you will be in a wet, muddy, cold trench trying to remember how to put a tourniquet with one arm as the otter one is blow off by a Ukraine drone. >
  
  More blood for the blood god! >
  
  500,000 that's alot meat going into the meat grinder. >
  
  This is crippling  the Russian economy too >
  
  More meat for the grinder. >
  
  500,000 soldiers?!
  No wonder the latest round of military aid was so robust. Ukraine needs more stuff to defend their country and push out the invaders. >
  
  And the new Republican House "majority" will try to stop any further aid. Disgraceful. >
  
  Mobile crematorium teams will be working overtime >
  
  I think we're soon approaching the tipping point where Russians will rather take a shot at deposing Putin instead of reporting for these suicide missions >
  
  if I was a Russian soldier I'd just surrender as soon as possible. >
  
  The people of Russia and the areas from which they’re getting the conscripts are going to rise up and say nope. >
  
  Russia still does not get it that winning a war is not about number of personnel anymore. But I'm very much looking forward to see more videos on how these idiots fail. Reminds me of getting more popcorn. >
  
  I live in Moscow - there were some rumors among Russians about the alleged second wave of mobilization, yes, but it seems that the Russian government has decided to indefinitely postpone it - recently Putin has ordered Shoigu to prepare a report on how well-equipped previously mobilized soldiers are by February 1, so it seems that there will be no further mobilization at least until this very date.
  Before the first wave of mobilization was declared in September 2022 every Russian Telegram channel and news website was abuzz with reports from anonymous sources in the Kremlin on impending speech from Putin, during which he would declare mobilization. But currently, everything is completely silent, and there are no signs of the Russian gov preparing for mobilization. >
  
  So maybe 300-400k Russians will die because Putin is boxed in and can’t take losing. Will 1mm russian soldiers have to die before this ends , maybe !!