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  r/awwPitFree
context: Dog owners should be fully responsible for the crime of the dog. No exceptions. Throw the owner in jail for shit like this. >
  
  My wife was bitten on the leg by some irresponsible asshole’s dog. The injury cost as much as a new car and now she’s understandably afraid of walking in the neighborhood and of dogs. Thankfully we have insurance because the emergency room visit cost twenty grand. 
  I’m at the point where I think all large breeds should be banned. People are not responsible enough to keep large predators. Twenty pounds or less. >
  
  20k for an ER visit. Americans. Why do you accept this? Why do you want it like this? >
  
  We don’t, but we’re not in charge. Industries own the government. >
  
  Why do people let their dogs roam free? Seriously people need go stop it.
  Edit: when I was a kid me and my friends got attacked by a German shepherd that was allowed to free roam while waiting for the bus. We were 6. Thank goodness not a pitbull. Either way keep your dogs on your property
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  Pitbulls are banned in many different places including the city I live in for this reason. This dog should not be domesticated. >
  
  
  This dog should not be domesticated.
  
  Umm... that's not how that works. The breed of dogs commonly referred to as "pit bulls" didn't exist until after the domestication of dogs in general. It's not like there are wild populations of pit bulls. >
  
  Semantics. The dog shouldn't be owned or bred by humans and kept as pets. Happy? >
  
  Not really since you didn't address my point, that you don't seem to know how dogs work. >
  
  Thanks Caesar Millan >
  
  I'm sure your comment campaign on reddit will see the results you want. >
  
  Unprecedented. We had no way of predicting this. >
  
  Ramgopal et all (2018) says that despite reported pit bulls being 4.9% of purebred dogs, they accounted for 27.2% of all reported bites. >
  
  I wouldn't be surprised if statistically, people who should not be dog owners are the ones more likely to own pitbulls too. >
  
  I think there might be something to this. People who like to look. “ tough “ as well as younger more irresponsible type people use the reputation of the  bully breeds to boost their ego . Then there is the dog fighting . So the higher numbers in deaths may be attributed to the type of owners, not the dogs themselves  - I know there are other types of owners too- have been one. >
  
  Theyre probably way more likely to be given away for free too.
  Then those new owners never get them fixed, give their litter away and so on >
  
  Every pit bull is the nicest, sweetest, wouldn't-harm-a-fly dog in the world until suddenly it's not and it magically transforms into a dog that was bred to fight and kill.  Attacks by pit bulls make up 65% of dog attack fatalities because that is their job. >
  
  Where does it say that in the article? >
  
  It Doesn't
  Seems to be accurate... >
  
  My point was that this was probably a bad dog raised by a bad owner. Nowhere in the article does it say that this dog was a good or nice dog. I already know that pits have the highest attack and kill stats in the US. Cocker spaniels are also in the top-10 of dog attacks in the US. After German Shepards is chihuahua terriers Dalmatians and cocker spaniels. >
  
  Pit bulls make up 65% of deaths  the next is like 8%.
  I can't find any deaths from a cocker spaniel. But when looking I found many articles about pit bulls killing cocker spaniels. >
  
  Yea I know, Jesus Christ. Wasn’t fuckin standing up for the breed. Was making the point that this more caused by a terrible owner letting the dog roam knowing the history of pit bulls. >
  
  
  Wasn’t fuckin standing up for the breed. 
  
  Ok
  
  Was making the point that this more caused by a terrible owner
  
  You're directing the conversation away from the fact that Pitbulls are dangerous, murderous animals and terrible musicians. >
  
  The breed of peace strikes again.
  Every pitbull is a nanny dog, right up until it eats your kid. >
  
  Your going to be downvoted into oblivion but you are absolutely right. Pitbulls are awful dogs. There isn’t a day that goes by without seeing a pit bull attack video or an article like this on Reddit. It’s time to ban the breed. >
  
  we won't ban a weapon that has assisted in the murder of hundreds if not thousands of children. 
  you really think they care about banning a dog or mixed dogs? >
  
  I know they don’t care, but I advocate for what I think is right, regardless. If I speak out it might encourage others to as well, and hopefully at least help to dispel the myth that pitbulls are harmless nanny dogs. >
  
  How irresponsible do you have to be to let a dog roam outside of your property? The owner deserves to be held accountable for this completely avoidable tragedy.
  Certain breeds also simply should not be allowed. I remember hearing that my local vet had a sign outside saying they’d neuter/spay pit bulls for free. >
  
  Let me guess, he's never showed any aggression and this happened out of the blue. 
  That's the main defense of pro pitbull people. But that's also a trait specific for this breed. It's not a bug, it's a feature >
  
  What makes it worse is these dogs have a very high rate for dog dementia, I have a Pitt mix myself in a high fenced in yard, they can be a sweet dog sure but they absolutely can snap and if they get older it's more likely to happen. They forget their owners and people they've met and it can absolutely be dangerous/fatal. (I will admit I didn't want this dog, but my husband found her roaming the street around our house and felt bad for her.) >
  
  They also have this unique trait of suddenly attacking it's own herd, which is the case in a lot of these. 
  It's understandable that a lot of owners defend them, when all they've seen, are the good sides. But breeders have bred the devil into some of these dogs, and without regulation breeding this out of them, everyone needs to be careful >
  
  Oh I completely agree, I worked at an animal shelter for five years and saw just about everything you can imagine. It does scare me as I have other animals besides her, but were she to attack one of them I have the training to stop her if I have to. (Hope this doesn't happen, but I will do what I have to)
  It's naive for people to think that their dog is different, they all have the capacity to harm people or other animals. All you have to do is see their musculature to see that they are built differently from other dogs. >
  
  How do you stop it? All I know, is choking them out cold, but with significant risk >
  
  Break the neck is really all you're going to be able to do,  by hand (this is a last ditch effort). A cricket bat is going to be your best bet so you don't get hurt, typically when Pitts bite down they don't let go so you're really only trying to save the other animal or person. If you can shock it with a hit it may drop what it's biting. ( I do not condone animal abuse, but if the dog is killing someone else or another pet you have to stop them) >
  
  Wasn’t there just a story yesterday about an 11 year old getting ripped up by one of these fuckin dogs too? Jfc >
  
  There was a story about 3 of them attacking a child on a bike. Not sure if that's the 1 you're thinking about. >
  
  I know people say “not all pit bulls” and all that…….. but I used to work in an urgent care / ER setting and almost every time there was a dog related injury…… it was a pit bull. Some really nasty wounds too. Can’t close them either because of infection risk. Anecdotal evidence 🤷🏼‍♀️ >
  
  Great.  Looking forward to the onslaught of 'cute pitty pictures' in r/aww etc...