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  So would that make it a conservative-arts college? That sounds like an oxymoron
context: Imagine a "conservative arts" curriculum. >
  
  They think it's liberal teachings at colleges that turns people into liberals, not that going to college turns people into liberals. >
  
  I put it like this.  Say you grew up in a very small community where calling black people n-ers was the norm.  You, personally, never meant anything by it, it's just how you described them.  Now, let's say you move away and find out that they find being called n-ers to be very offensive, do you continue calling them n-ers?  No, you stop using this term because of its very hurtful history.  Congratulations, you are now "woke", because you were "asleep" to how your words and actions may have been hurting others.
  This is what conservatives are afraid of.  That you might move away and find out that your family are hateful racist bigots.  Them calling everyone groomers is ironic AF, because keeping their victims ignorant, like the don't say gay bill, is what groomers do. >
  
  As bad a some people find place like Tik Tok to be, I really believe one of the reason why conservatives hate it and other forms of social media is because those places tend to go hard against racist conservatives ideas. >
  
  It’s traveling for the mind - Exposes young people to cultures and ideas other than their own little tribe, which is always bad for conservatism. >
  
  Unless the algorithm funnels them down the qanon conspiracy rabbit hole >
  
  Yes, with the good comes a lot of bad I guess. One one hand information informs and enlightens, on the other hand it can be distorted and twisted by sophisticated bad actors, and also by knuckle-dragging bridge trolls like Alex Jones. >
  
  New College isn't just a Liberal Arts College, it's a liberal arts honors college with a very unique approach to learning.  To the student body and the faculty, this is a disaster.  It's completely at odds with the character of the College.  Many will leave.  And recruiting new students will be impossible.  I am guessing a bunch of next falls freshman are already making new plans.  It's cruel and utterly undeserved.
  DeSantis is an asshole. >
  
  As an alum, I can say it's fucking heartbreaking. New College was pretty unique, not just in Florida but for the whole country. >
  
  Wow—I’m really sorry all this is happening. DeSantis is the absolute worst, and this is absolutely on-brand. They can’t win with their ideas, so they’ll force their ideas using their political power. 
  As for the school, do you still know people there? How are they taking it? What do you think will happen here? I’m really curious to hear your insights. >
  
  Nah, I graduated more than a decade ago, I haven't really kept up with anyone from it, and keep in mind it's a tiny school, the total student body when I attended was like eight hundred people. 
  The heart and soul of the school is (or was, maybe) the philosophy of not letting the institution get in the way of education - undergraduate only, narrative evaluation of every student's individual performance, a month every year dedicated to just independent research/art projects and a thesis your senior year. And the administration was incredibly accommodating - if you could prove an interest of even just half a dozen people, students could ask the faculty to cover tutorials or even hire guest professors to teach subjects not normally offered. And that's to say nothing of the culture of the students, which is incredibly diverse and open to new ideas.
  It's not a great school for someone who's looking to jump start a career with minimal effort - nobody's ever heard of it, there's no attached post-graduate program to slide into, you don't get a GPA or ranking at the end there are no frats or other organizations to promote cronyism, but I can't imagine a better place to get an education. Which, of course, makes it basically everything a modern conservatives are against. I hope, sincerely, that the faculty and what remains of the board are fighting as much as they can and it can weather our current political climate. But I really don't know. >
  
  This piece of shit hasn’t done a single thing for the people of Florida. >
  
  Hasn't stopped Floridians from voting for him. >
  
  he was actively recruiting the stupids during the worst of the pandemic, sane people are becoming outnumbered down here >
  
  Hi sane person here - I left. In Michigan now where it seems my vote actually gets counted instead of being thrown off the damn voter roles. I’m not confident DeSantis actually won the state just like I’m not confident Gore lost it. The state can go to hell get out while you can! >
  
  
  I’m not confident DeSantis actually won the state just like I’m not confident Gore lost it
  
  oh, you are one of the sane ones; hi, nice to meet you. I was out of state for 20 years and moved back just prior to the worst of the pandemic to be near aging parents and got stuck down here, now I can't afford to move back out >
  
  It’s only sane to deny the results of the election I lost. >
  
  there is no denying the shit-ton of fuckery in both elections; Jeb Bush was governor when his brother was running for prez, the person in charge of FL elections at the time also a Bush campaign manager, Brooks Brothers Riot, etc. that's just for the Gore one. Check out how transparent the state election board has been this last go round with information about the Desantis campaign; I now question the legitimacy of most US elections even ones where candidates I favor have won >
  
  DeSantis is coming for your lunch next: “Peanut butter should not be applied to sandwiches liberally, only conservatively” >
  
  Peter Pan peanut butter will be banned because Peter Pan is a Disney character, and there’s no room for woke peanut butter in Florida. >
  
  Also does the pan stand for pansexual? He's a groomer! /S just in case. >
  
  Kidnapped a bunch of children and took them to his secret island. Peter Pan, or Jeffrey Epstein? >
  
  Yes >
  
  99% of what DeSantis does is wage culture war battles over made-up problems. >
  
  And then asks Biden for federal relief. >
  
  While posing with white irrigation boots on >
  
  And well after Labor Day, it must be noted. >
  
  Serial Mom would like a chat. >
  
  Time and time again we see how when Republicans ACCUSE 'the left' of doing something it is actually something those Republicans are either already or planning to do.
  "liberal colleges are indoctrinating our children!"
  Let's load up a liberal-arts college that gets public funding so we can exert our control with some of those radical right-wing views and then push that indoctrination onto the students. >
  
  FL voters need to be hammered with Desantis wanting to control your "Life", your "Liberty" and your "Pursuit of Happiness". >
  
  I live in central Florida and regularly drive through more remote areas of the I-4 corridor. Trust me when I say there are many, many people that are happy with DeSantis and his behavior. In fact, they would willingly participate in his shenanigans if he called upon them. I see Trump flags, DeSantis signs, and Let's Go Brandon signs flying above the mobile homes of the poorest of the poor. It's heartbreaking. >
  
  And that's why I will probably never go back to Florida. >
  
  That’s why I want to leave within the next few years. >
  
  Just more fascist policies. >
  
  What happened to “conservatism is small government and will leave you alone” >
  
  It was always a scam.  The federal deficit and spending skyrocketed under Reagan. >
  
  Republicans: "We dont like big government"
  also Republicans: "STOP LEARNING WHAT WE DONT LIKE" >
  
  Give DeSantis some credit for shrewdness. He understands that an informed citizenry is an existential threat to today's Republican Party. >
  
  This guy is fucking dangerous... way more than Trump. >
  
  Every, single time politicians, particularly conservative ones, stick their noses in education, the results are regressive, oppressive and usually offensive. 
  Look no further than No Child Left Behind , for a prime example. >
  
  Ah, the co-bill sponsored by Ted Kennedy and George Miller(the guy that wrote the bill that Biden used to cancel student debt) two noted conservatives. 
  Its also a toothless bill that should not be used to excuse states from failing. >
  
  He's doing this because of the "liberal" in "liberal arts," isn't he? What a goddamned ultramaroon. >
  
  Guess he wants to take the name liberal out of Liberal-arts. 🤡 >
  
  Exactly 🤡
  It is so strange really. 
  Liberal, at its root means broad, diverse, many ways of doing things which is actually the perfect compliment to free markets and choice, as opposed to conservative which means 1 way, that being the old - my way or the highway (cough, authoritarianism), the exact antithesis of free markets, free societies, and democracies. >
  
  “Diverse” <— that’s why >
  
  government that knows what is best for you...sound Un-American >
  
  The more I hear about this man the more I see him as the largest constitutional crisis this nation has ever seen if he manages to obtain the presidency.
  We already see the shitshow that is the house of representatives right now.
  He will literally inherit a nation where just a little over 50% of the population will engage in civil disobedience against any unconstitutional policies his administration attempt to enforce. And that is not to mention just how backed up the courts are going to be with the tremendous number of lawsuits, as well as the collapse of the credibility of our higher courts if they rule in his favor, this new generation of NEOCONS will cause.
  Make no mistake, these are not conservatives, these are white supremist with the goal of bringing back slavery in name if not in actually and serfdom beyond anything we have seen in 100 years. >
  
  Wow. I can't imagine the pain of being a member of the faculty or a student at New College today. It must feel like being in Guernica the day of the bombing. >
  
  Small government conservatism right here folks. >
  
  Basic fascist playbook. Target education and demonize the intellectuals. Play on nostalgia for a more golden, common sense age that never existed. >
  
  This guy is a literal high school bully who never stopped being one. >
  
  This dude is just making Florida his little playground at this point. >
  
  DeFascist has his own Banana Republic! >
  
  When you can't help the ppl, you invent problems to solve. >
  
  Fuck this prick. What kind of shot do you think he will try to pull as president. I think I might prefer the incompetence of Trump to this asshole. >
  
  New College?! The entire point of it is that is like bare foot hippy school. Turning it into whatever cons want basically defeats the purpose. >
  
  
  defeats the purpose
  
  Thus conservatives' goal, no? >
  
  Speaking of trying to indoctrinate young people……. >
  
  Super Nazi move there, Ron. >
  
  Ron DeSantis is a Nazi >
  
  My wife graduated from New College. Fuck Desantis for trying to fuck with that school like this. >
  
  Seems to me he has declared war on everyone, like he's in some prison Arian gang. Time for the metaphorical shiv. Hack his credit, expose his Moscow connection, find his secret family or whatever. >
  
  Roger Stone had some gossip about one of those… >
  
  I wonder if the fascists look at the history of fascism and think "this time will be different". Short sighted morons, there will always be someone who thinks more extremely and views you as "too soft". Fascism always ends with it eating itself, it doesn't work >
  
  “philosophical lunacy” Umm……. >
  
  I think he was damaged somehow when he was a conservative history teacher in Florida, and all of this is a personal level payback to the educational system down there.  
  I do not see how people re-elected him. >
  
  Florida is governed with scientific ignorance,  and religious bigotry and homophobia. >
  
  Ah, the party of personal freedom and limited government. >
  
  Government overreach! >
  
  And for women, it’s like 1884 >
  
  DeSatan is a Nazi. Period. A Nazi. >
  
  Ave Maria is down there—what the fuck more does he want?? >
  
  So many of these Maga assholes have moved here. They are rude, litter, dont respect our wildlife, and act aggressive whenever possible. Florida has lost its charm and is no longer the state I grew up in. >
  
  Desantis knows only dumb shits vote for him. He has vowed to make Florida stupider. >
  
  Imagine this on a National scale. That’s what he wants. And may have the determination to do so. >
  
  Universities outside florida should bar florida students from entry if they don't sit an examination - sell it as quality control... >
  
  Killing education is second only to suppressing votes in the Republican agenda to win elections. >
  
  Republicans won't be satisfied until every college in the country is a fundamental Baptist Bible college. >
  
  Stuffing down kids feelings or questions while dealing with a new or different thought, pattern, way of life or “factual” event as it may be, is the most ignorant, inefficient and frankly pathetic way teach anybody tolerance, empathy or history. To label it ‘soft’ emotional learning, planted by the ‘woke’ left blah blah blah sounds like the blatant garbage it is. Chief complaint is the irony of the indoctrination to the Christian Right.  The responsibilities we have as human beings cannot let us randomly rewrite history nor ignore the plight and facts of the very short history that is America. All in in the name of producing ignorant weak minded followers that can be controlled. Desantis is a ruthless and despicable person. He lies, steals & cheats. There is no platform except control and power. 
  There is little to no truth to what he is preaching. Fuck him. >
  
  I regret not finishing my degree often but there is no way in hell I’m going back to school in the environment he wants to create. I live in Florida and the idea that he wants to reshape education to fit his worldview for everyone terrifies me >
  
  Is this small government? >
  
  
  “We must ensure that our institutions of higher learning are focused on academic excellence and the pursuit of truth, not the imposition of trendy ideology,” DeSantis said
  
  And that's why he wants to revise history to read slavery wasn't that bad, then it ended, and racism was cured.
  His commitment to "truth." >
  
  Conservative liberal-arts. That doesn't sound right. >
  
  Conservatives will change a college and then wonder why all the smart people are going to different schools.  Then they will claim they are being cancelled and its because woke.
  Same Same.
  Look at the 15 rounds of voting for the same guy and not getting a different result until the end after giving up your soul sums up the right wing. >
  
  This crap is meaningless. He fails to realize no young republican can win being that retrograde. It's all reactionary >
  
  I refer to them as regressives >
  
  I can guarantee that this overhaul will include prohibition of free speech.  People who work under DeSantis oppose free speech when it criticizes his administration. >
  
  No corporation will accept degrees from Florida now. Has anyone seen the Florida emergency fund? They are raising money to help Floridians with disaster relief. 
  Thanks DeSantis! >
  
  The Ministry is interfering at Hogwarts.