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  2023…. Let it go
context: Ignoring the advice of his own top White House lawyers, Mr Trump had mounted a pressure campaign meant to convince then-vice president Mike Pence to use his ceremonial role presiding over the certification session to install him and Mr Trump in the White House for a second term, by throwing out lawfully-cast electoral college votes from swing states won by Joe Biden.voters.
  
  i'm worried that we're becoming numb to the craziness, because i read the article and was sort of nodding along with what i was expecting - but then i had to reread it to remind myself just how batshit crazy this was
  a sitting president tried (and though twice impeached and ousted, is still trying) to ignore the American people/their votes - the insanity of that cannot be exaggerated >
  
  Not only do some of us have to snap ourselves out of our daze but there are still many, many others out there willing to ignore this fact and still want trump to run again. 
  The fascism is too thick here. >
  
  The worst part is how my ex-boss tries to weasel his way out of this during Facebook arguments and refuses to hold himself accountable.  
  I'm like "You voted for this twice and you refuse to apologize.  How do you even sleep at night?"
  And he'll be like "There you go again with your partisanship.  Don't you know that Biden is the REAL problem?" >
  
  
  There you go again with your partisanship. Don't you know that Biden is the REAL problem?
  
  Trump was successful in undermining trust in elections by throwing shit at everything and everyone. Borderline stochastic terrorism given the outcome >
  
  
  Borderline stochastic terrorism given the outcome
  
  It's 100% stochastic terrorism. Let's not forget that Democratic leadership has been and is currently under attack. Fascist terrorists are shooting at and invading their homes.
  It's time to put the pressure on all your fascist friends. They need to learn to play nice or face the consequences of being ostracized from kind society. >
  
  Let's not forget, breaking into the home of Nancy and attacking her husband... If this was somehow different, if a person broke into MTG house, the Republicans would have freaked out... But Nancy's husband gets ridiculed for being attacked in his home. What would Reagan or any president of the past, have said about that? I'm sure that guy would be executed already for treason. It's just sad and sick that these people are on with it. Then again I was raised to never say terrible things about our president and yet trump ridiculed Obama, constantly, while Obama was in office, and people acted like that was ok... It wasn't. Yet the Dixie chicks nearly lost their careers because they said, being from the same state as Bush, wasn't their favorite part of Texas. (I read the full interview, they were pushed to say something, badgered until they did, and then got death threats for it... ) >
  
  "Activists" also tried to run a Biden/Harris campaign bus off the road multiple times on a major highway in 2020 in Austin, causing them to cancel an event appearance.  The local police said there was nothing they could do.
  The main problem is ignorant voters who prefer a violent fantasy where they are the main character to a reality where they might actually have a chance of improving their lives (a la the ACA). >
  
  
  White House phone logs obtained by the January 6 committee showed a massive gap in Mr Trump’s communication records, with no calls recorded between 11.06am and 6.54pm.
  
  Was POTUS using burner phones? >
  
  Trump was watching and waiting for his coup to succeed.
  He only came out and made the video in the Rose Garden when it was clear his insurrection had failed.
  Even then he felt compelled to tell his seditious co-conspirators “I love you” and “You’re very special”.
  This traitorous MFer and his mob belong in prison for the rest of their lives. >
  
  And that was after he complained about how low class and trashy all of his supporters looked that day lol >
  
  Well, he wasn't wrong about that. >
  
  When you “ love the uneducated “ you get what you get. >
  
  When you lay down with dogs you get up with fleas. >
  
  The prosecution could read this as the opening arguments of United States v Donald J Trump >
  
  Still waiting…. >
  
  for freaking real; we finished our stale popcorn years ago, wake me when there’s anything resembling Justice >
  
  Looks like you’ll be in a coma for a while >
  
  Right?! Don’t hold your breath. >
  
  The scariest thing is that a scheme like that had already worked in 1876 for Rutherford Hayes, so there's already a precedent for the rest of the government just going along with the rigged results. >
  
  Beware and be wary
  The 6^th January
  Republicans treacherous plot
  For I know of no reason
  The GOP treason
  Should ever
  Be
  Forgot >
  
  Hamberders treason and plot >
  
  What does it matter if no one is going to do anything about it? >
  
  This is where I’m at with everything. It’s been 2 years. No one in charge was held accountable so it’s basically over. They will simply have a better plan next time. >
  
  It’s hard enough to wrap my head around the President and his associates planning to overthrow the government but I absolutely cannot understand why he and they are not in the most secure prison of the United States right now. 
  The evidence is overwhelming and since then, he’s just been allowed to freely plot and fundraise for a second coup attempt. 
  Political reality no longer comprehensible in the U.S. and to the rest of the world. >
  
  1/6 was among one of the darkest days in American history. We must never forget, and continue to educate people so it never happens again. >
  
  1/6 was the day American conservatism gave 
   up the threadbare lie in which they pretend to be America-loving patriots and told the truth about itself for the very first time. They are violent, degenerate animals pretending to be a legitimate political party. >
  
  Historically coups do not happen on their own. There are outside actors influencing them with money, information and promises. 
  I'm about half way through "Legacy of Ashes: a history of the CIA" and I'll be damned if this doesn't read like a chapter right out of that book. 
  Russian Intelligence or Chinese intelligence likely had a hand in this. 
  if you don't believe me, read the book for yourself. >
  
  But they will say they are only doing what the US has done. >
  
  Attacks on freedom and democracy stem from Trump's supporters, who firmly believe the election was stolen from them. Since there's no evidence to support their conclusion, their only choice is to rely on a conspiracy. The truth is that their America is fading away. What remains is home to every religion, culture, and creed. And not a typical environment for a sustainable uni party.
  Trump and his supporters have to say the election was rigged to reaffirm their beliefs. A belief so endowed they no longer recognize their own weaknesses. It's the Dunning-Kruger effect --when self-awareness is replaced by illusionary superiority. They see their brand of conservatism through rose-colored glasses and with zero self-reflection.
  Many have a scared person's view of the world. They feel their very existence is threatened, and only Trump can save them. There is nothing you can say or do to convince them otherwise. This tunnel vision mirrors cult behavior. To fit in, they're forced live in the narrow confines of their belief system. They are not allowed to think for themselves or question anything. Doubters are demonized as outsiders and traitors. Sadly, stupidity flourishes without self-reflection.
  The only way Trump can carry on a lie is to tell more lies. The best course of action is to allow his supporters to find the truth for themselves. There will come a time when your friend or family member doesn't agree with the cult and will have nowhere to turn. That's when you leave that door open for them. You'll never change their reality, but you can change their perspective. Give them love. Give them compassion and give them hope. >
  
  That may have been good advice a few years ago but after like 8 years of this shit I'm just tired. >
  
  Me too. Tired of all of it but then remind myself about the day. I can remember watching it on the Telly and not sure where the f/k they were broadcasting from, I never, like most of us, I suppose, thought something that insane could happen. I still get the creeps looking at the photos and video, it was too surreal to believe. >
  
  Planned and incited an insurrection and a STILL ongoing coup on the United States. Lock. Him. Up. >
  
  Nah trumps the man >
  
  I got no use for anyone that condones the events of 1/6.  They should all be branded as traitors.  I have no problem dissociating myself from those I know who supported it. >
  
  Then lock him the fuck up already. >
  
  In Safari, Reader Mode defeats the soft paywall. >
  
  Can you imagine having your birthday on January 6th? “Happy birthday! Congratulations, you get a capitol riot!” >
  
  Actually my birthday, too! No one says insurrection day to me, fortunately, but still sucks.
  Happy birthday to you, too! And happy unbirthday to everyone else! (Alice in Wonderland reference for those unaware) >
  
  Thank you for the award! >
  
  Beware:
  All too often,
  We say
  What we hear others say.
  We think what we’re told to think.
  We see
  What we’re permitted to see.
  Worse!
  We see what we’re told to see
  Even an obvious lie
  Again
  And again and again
  Maybe to say it,
  Almost by reflex
  Then to defend it
  Because we’ve said it
  And at last to embrace it
  Because we’ve defended it
  And because we cannot admit
  That we’ve embraced and defended
  An obvious lie.
  Thus, without thought,
  Without intent,
  We make
  Mere echoes
  Of ourselves-
  And we say
  What we hear others say.
  --Parable of the Talents
  Octavia E. Butler
  
  Edit: spacing >
  
  He walks free. What we allow will continue. >
  
  Had he been successful alongside Pennsylvania 10th District Scott Perry he would have turned the United States into a dictatorship and destroy the Constitution including the 22nd Amendment >
  
  “ fight like hell! Or you won’t have a country left!“ we’re his exact words to the angry, death chanting crowd. You won’t believe what they went a did. .. . . . >
  
  But wait, there’s more… 
  What about the dismantling of the post office machines as part of the scheme to discredit mail in voting? Who will be held criminally and financially responsible for that? >
  
  Fuck Trump. >
  
  Speaker vote/last few days: Now we know what our government would be like if the insurrectionists were successful. >
  
  And he’ll never see any penalties for his actions. >
  
  It’s crazy seeing it laid out like that. Great format timeline. >
  
  And guess what will be done about it?
  Absolutely nothing.
  I'm fuckng embarrassed to be American. >
  
  Don’t be. Just vote. And ask others to vote. Register the 18 year olds. >
  
  lol. Uh yeah, ask others to vote. That's all it takes.
  F'ing ridiculous. You live in a dream world. >
  
  What do you suggest, then >
  
  The Independent: "Here's a full picture of what Trump did on Jan 6"
  Also The Independent: [paywall]
  fuck off lol >
  
  I exited out the registration box and the article displayed without needing to pay. >
  
  Right now this story is a few pegs below one about missing call logs.  So “full picture” is not accurate. >
  
  Without reading, my money is on lots of ketchup. >
  
  He failed to destroy America. He instead destroyed himself. >
  
  Not really… he still resides at maralago, living a more prestigious and expensive life than the majority of humans can afford. He is free, and is still to this day trying his hardest to destroy democracy.
  He needs to be locked away. >
  
  Arrest this treasonous traitor and coward of this country!, exile him to putin! Immediately >
  
  Time to 🔒 him up!🤷‍♂️ >
  
  I want to see everything on the break down of what Trump did on January 6th. I would like to know what it was and when that he had breakfast. >
  
  Will they release all the security footage from that day? >
  
  He was f**king the USA and democracy, and I would like not to have the corresponding picture, thank you.... >
  
  We've known for two years now. Who's the slow reader holding us up? >
  
  Jail time for the donald >
  
  Too numb? Nah. It’s just internalizing the rage to keep us warm for the winter. Most are waiting for Justice to be done, but we know there is a lot of corruption and cowardice to overcome. >
  
  Ok.  Why is he not in a jail cell awaiting trial? >
  
  I’ve seen headlines almost exactly like this too many times. Charge him or let it go. Idc anymore. Nothing ever happens. Not just with him: anyone with money never faces catches charges for anything. I love the idea of the USA, but it’s not that country. This place is a cesspool.