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  the holdouts could vote down the rules package along with the democrats
  
  This season of CSPAN is going to be interesting as hell.
context: Kind of obvious Gaetz has poor impulse control considering his relationships with highschoolers >
  
  This dude is pushing 45 and still grandstands like a teenager who just got THE BEST piece of advice from Andrew Tate >
  
  I bet Gaetz eats Hooters like a true ‘Alpha Male’. >
  
  He's such an oblivious, toxic "Alpha" goober, I wouldn't be surprised if he's banned from at least one location because he literally tried to mouth one of the waitress' hooters because his "friends" egged him on. >
  
  "I'll take the chicken breast, hold the chicken" >
  
  Oh, Michael. :( >
  
  this is what you get when you elect those without intelligence, class, or character...aka the republican party. >
  
  And critically, the maturity it takes to operate a government.  I don’t know when GOP voters will realize that this is all serious business that requires a real degree of competence and professionalism to get anything done.  People in this context don’t behave in a civil fashion because they all like each other.  They do it because it’s what the job absolutely requires. But so many GOP voters just want to see it all implode, until it inevitably impacts them and they turn to blame anybody else. >
  
  But I wanna own the libs! >
  
  They always need a personal enemy. >
  
  The real Enemy was themselves >
  
  McCarthy allies are probably pissed because McCarthy likely had to give away powerful positions meant for them to some of these loonies >
  
  Are the concessions even enforceable? >
  
  That will be interesting to see. If everyone is lying to each other it extra breaks down. >
  
  As far as I can tell the holdouts are just saying "do what we want or we remove you", which they could just as easily have done after the vote >
  
  A lot of their demands were related to house rules, which are voted on as soon as the speaker is selected. Those are many of the concessions that McCarthy had to give in to in order to sway the holdouts. If those concessions AREN’T in the rules package, the holdouts could vote down the rules package along with the democrats. Same scenario, nothing gets done in the house until the rules package is passed.
  The second bargaining chip is committee and subcommittee positions or gavels. For example, I read somewhere that the HFC is demanding at least 1/3 of the seats on the rules committee. Traditionally, there is some informal line of seniority for these committee and gavels. Rumor is Gaetz may have been angling to jump seniority for the armed services committee gavel. Rogers is in line to be the chair, so it’s possible he caught wind of Gaetz trying to jump him in line.
  We don’t know exactly everything McCarthy conceded to the HFC. We know of some concessions that will be in the rules package, but many of those were made before this week even started when he had over 20 holdouts. If he did promise committee positions and gavels, that’s a major risk as it could alienate establishment party members.