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  While I am pro-vax and believe in its overall efficacy (it is by far a net positive than a net negative), there are articles that have alluded to vaccines and an increased risk in myocarditis for young males.
  
  The risk for myocarditis increased after receiving the first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine, and after a first, second and booster dose of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine. But the risk of myocarditis associated with the vaccine was lower than the risk associated with COVID-19 infection before or after vaccination – with one exception. Men under 40 who received a second dose of the Moderna vaccine had a higher risk of myocarditis following vaccination. The Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines are available in the U.S.
  
  I'm of the position that we should promote further discourse on the above as  I can't find detailed statistics about it and it seems quite arbitrary, and so I guess in a way I'm slightly on the anti-vaxxers side? However, I don't believe there's a cover-up and I don't believe this case in particular is because of the vaccine, though there's no harm in ruling it out.
  Ultimately, I agree that vaccines overall are very effective, but it would be nice if people from BOTH sides realized there was more nuance to the situation. From where I live, folks were told to get AstraZeneca for their first shot as soon as they could, however shortly after they stopped issuing them once the UK did more studies on the second dose effects. Thereafter, only Pfizer/Moderna shots were issued. A family member of mine had a bad allergic reaction to the vaccine, while having no known allergies at the time, that lasted for months and had visited various doctors who weren't able to diagnose the issue, and told them to not get the second vaccine. The rest of my family is fully boosted and completely fine.
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  So, here's the thing: there IS an uptick in heart related issues in athletes.
  It isn't being covered up, and it's being reported on.
  It isn't "due to the vaccines" but due to Covid itself.
  Essentially, a group of people went "we started vaccinating these people, and people died due to heart related issues, which we know is a rare side effect of the vaccine.
  But they missed that it happens more commonly to people who have recovered from covid.
  So, yes, there is no cover up.  But people who see vaccines as harmful see it as further proof of the vaccines causing the harm, since these issues happened at the same time as a rise in vaccines.  But they miss that the rise in vaccines happened due to the rise in covid, and due to the lack of sports in the meantime, there was a delay in athletes having issues on the field. >
  
  I thought the vaxx was supposed to stop this though? That is what the trust the science stuff for the last 3 years have been. >
  
  No offense, but that doesn't refute anything I said.  It's just a "but vaccines aren't 100% perfect".  Which yes, nobody thinks otherwise.  Especially after variants happened. >
  
  Just seems like at best the vaccine did nothing, and at worst it is contributing negatively to people health. >
  
  The vaccine is very good at preventing death in people who contract COVID-19. >
  
  countries that did not vaccinate it population did not have higher death rates from covid. The vaccine seems to have done nothing, the goal posts got moved so many times and we were lied to repeatedly about its effectiveness. >
  
  Which countries didn't vaccinate? 
  What source are you looking at? >
  
  hati >
  
  Got any other countries that 1. Tested more so that we dont have to extrapolate from incomplete data 2. Are closer to the age range of the usa given that young people are effected far less severely from covid >
  
  So between this:
  
  They also could be hiding what drugs players are using in order to stay fit and in gameday shape.
  
  And this: 
  
  They let Tua come back on the field after clearly dealing with a concussion and barely able to stand.
  
  I'll concede that I find it plausible that the league could keep something covered.  I still don't buy for a second that the AV crowd have any merit here, and I still think that the simple explanation is likely to be all there really is to the story.  But given the league's history, I shouldn't be quick to completely write off any muddying of the waters.  So for that, take a !delta >
  
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  I am not saying you are wrong.  But given that we had public health authorities outright lie to the American public over and over about Covid related issues, there is a great deal of public good to be done with some transparency and some patience, and answering, without snark, questions about this injury.
  Like for example how often is commotio cordis diagnosed in people older than 20?  Because if a rare condition all of a sudden becomes even more rare after a certain age range then there is a considerable amount of extra heightened skepticism to apply to the diagnosis.
  What do his doctor's say?  Are there any blood tests that would help confirm or deny this as a diagnosis? >
  
  
  But given that we had public health authorities outright lie to the American public over and over about Covid related issues
  
  Example? >
  
  I think the closest "actual lie" is the early on "mask messaging" where it was partly due to trying to keep the mask supply where it needed it be, but also due to a lack of data. >
  
  Also, there was the hand washing and surface cleaning nonsense. These do nothing to prevent covid, it being an airborne virus, but were done to create an atmosphere of fear around the virus so that people would do what they were told. There isn't much outright admission of this in the US, but the UK's SPI-B had a lot of stuff leaked where this was admitted to.