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  Nothing but a fucking game to all of them
context: Kind of obvious Gaetz has poor impulse control considering his relationships with highschoolers >
  
  This dude is pushing 45 and still grandstands like a teenager who just got THE BEST piece of advice from Andrew Tate >
  
  I bet Gaetz eats Hooters like a true ‘Alpha Male’. >
  
  He's such an oblivious, toxic "Alpha" goober, I wouldn't be surprised if he's banned from at least one location because he literally tried to mouth one of the waitress' hooters because his "friends" egged him on. >
  
  "I'll take the chicken breast, hold the chicken" >
  
  Oh, Michael. :( >
  
  this is what you get when you elect those without intelligence, class, or character...aka the republican party. >
  
  And critically, the maturity it takes to operate a government.  I don’t know when GOP voters will realize that this is all serious business that requires a real degree of competence and professionalism to get anything done.  People in this context don’t behave in a civil fashion because they all like each other.  They do it because it’s what the job absolutely requires. But so many GOP voters just want to see it all implode, until it inevitably impacts them and they turn to blame anybody else. >
  
  But I wanna own the libs! >
  
  They always need a personal enemy. >
  
  The real Enemy was themselves >
  
  McCarthy allies are probably pissed because McCarthy likely had to give away powerful positions meant for them to some of these loonies >
  
  Are the concessions even enforceable? >
  
  That will be interesting to see. If everyone is lying to each other it extra breaks down. >
  
  As far as I can tell the holdouts are just saying "do what we want or we remove you", which they could just as easily have done after the vote >
  
  A lot of their demands were related to house rules, which are voted on as soon as the speaker is selected. Those are many of the concessions that McCarthy had to give in to in order to sway the holdouts. If those concessions AREN’T in the rules package, the holdouts could vote down the rules package along with the democrats. Same scenario, nothing gets done in the house until the rules package is passed.
  The second bargaining chip is committee and subcommittee positions or gavels. For example, I read somewhere that the HFC is demanding at least 1/3 of the seats on the rules committee. Traditionally, there is some informal line of seniority for these committee and gavels. Rumor is Gaetz may have been angling to jump seniority for the armed services committee gavel. Rogers is in line to be the chair, so it’s possible he caught wind of Gaetz trying to jump him in line.
  We don’t know exactly everything McCarthy conceded to the HFC. We know of some concessions that will be in the rules package, but many of those were made before this week even started when he had over 20 holdouts. If he did promise committee positions and gavels, that’s a major risk as it could alienate establishment party members. >
  
  
  the holdouts could vote down the rules package along with the democrats
  
  This season of CSPAN is going to be interesting as hell. >
  
  Potentially. They all caved in the end, but they’ve had a major impact on the new rules package and could see increased representation on key committees. That’s a lot. They have a lot of leverage over McCarthy while McCarthy has only a very razor edge. Less flexibility for individual members to have cop out votes if it’s politically beneficial, and almost no room for significant opposition within the party. >
  
  
  They have a lot of leverage over McCarthy while McCarthy has only a very razor edge. 
  
  Yep, the clown car posse has McCarthy by the balls, so they'll ensure this circus will continue full tilt for the next two years. >
  
  "With Republican lawmakers growing irritable after days of fruitless voting, a heated argument broke out between several of them. But Representative Mike Rogers of Alabama, a McCarthy ally who is in line to become the next chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, took it to another level when he stepped toward Mr. Gaetz and had to be restrained.
  The dramatic moment was captured on C-SPAN’s video cameras, which, lacking the typical restraints placed upon them in a House with a speaker, were free to show whatever moments from the floor its operators deemed newsworthy." >
  
  
  which, lacking the typical restraints placed upon them in a House with a speaker
  
  What restraints?  You mean they are not allowed to film certain conversations when there is a speaker in place? >
  
  Yes. Once a speaker is in place, the camera operators are govt employees selected by the party in power. >
  
  This is a tidbit that needs SCREAMED from metaphorical rooftops >
  
  Ehhh it’s a two sided coin really. When there are no cameras in the chamber, there’s no one to perform for. Debate is just that— debate. 
  When they know the cameras are on, “debate” is about generating sound bites to raise you own profile.
  We don’t really need to see the debate portion. We can see what the bill is, and we can see how everyone voted. If any congressman has thoughts that he wants the people to hear, he can go on TV or release a statement or something. Hearing them talk back and forth for the benefit of an audience doesn’t help that much. 
  On the other hand, transparency is important. But we would have to assume that everyone is acting in good faith, which they’re not. >
  
  My man, I don’t have the cash to fly to DC whenever there’s a debate in the Chamber. CSPAN doesn’t do commentaries, they just show the event in the house because it is our rights as Americans to be in the gallery when the chamber is in session ( not during the joint session though for some reason). >
  
  A bunch of babies having temper tantrums who finally caved because they didn't want to give up their weekend. >
  
  I listen to CSPAN a lot and was like, why are their literal babies crying? Oh, right. There are no rules. Anything goes. It's usually gone in a flash, and it was surreal seeing the house as if it was the reality show big brother for a week suspended in rehearsals like it was a dark comedy. And then the grand finale. 
  Especially weird how CSPAN filmed the drama zooming into random interactions  because there were no rules. They had complete creative control. >
  
  C-Span were bragging about how the cameras were so good because of how much control they had lol >
  
  We wouldn't have got that awesome moment when they had to muzzle Rogers tho. So let em brag. This week was entertaining. They earned it lol >
  
  Maybe Rogers heard that Gaetz wants to be chairman of the Armed Services Committee? >
  
  Or maybe Gaetz asked about his daughter. >
  
  I swear he's the real life version of Robbie Rotten >
  
  I’m torn on this statement because I love Robbie Rotten. >
  
  Congrats Republicans: you put a pedophile in an important role on the armed services committee. >
  
  Not too bad... People in the armed services are too old to fit his type... >
  
  That’s hilarious. >
  
  Ahh the old republican "I don't know how to process my emotions so I'll solve the problem with violence" technique >
  
  Power, force, wealth, and violence. It’s the Republican way. >
  
  This fool makes Ted Cruz and Rand Paul look sensible. >
  
  Their Republicans have a sex trafficker representing them. Odd. >
  
  By odd, you mean “par for the course”. >
  
  Yes. >
  
  What a fuckin clown show >
  
  Who’s the 12 year old boy behind Bobert? >
  
  Geatz's date >
  
  Oh how nice. Such a special way for the party of civility to celebrate Jan 6. >
  
  Did they finally promise Gaetz he could go prowl local high schools without them reporting him to the police? >
  
  Another brawl on January 6th. Are they trying to make it tradition? >
  
  The Fox News Cancer made them this way. They are too stupid and morally bankrupt to save themselves. >
  
  Why is no one calling these guys “thugs”?! >
  
  They aren’t thugs, more like the preppy white kids in hs with lawyer parents >
  
  What a fist-magnet Matt Gaetz face is. >
  
  Seems like what we witnessed this week will leave long lasting scars on the Republican Party >
  
  Those were from opposing parties. This time it was inter-party conflict. >
  
  I wish it went to another few rounds of voting; I think there would have been legitimate fights and that would have been glorious and hideous to have seen happen. >
  
  Man, the GOP is really the Bro party. 
  Kevin McCarthy reminds me of a stepdad begging his teenage stepson (Matt) to keep the peace at Thanksgiving dinner. >
  
  I'm not sure who is sitting behind Bobo but he almost looks too young to be elected as a member of Congress. >
  
  Those are probably aides >
  
  Or family members. There were some kids there. >
  
  What a shit show! And these are our "leaders". SMH >
  
  Of course it was the guy from Alabama. >
  
  Puppet theatrics. This was a distraction to not remind us of their insurrection on Jan 6. >
  
  The guy who had to be restrained looks like a Trump impersonator. >
  
  “Republicans telling people how they should vote”, photograph, 2023 >
  
  They’re all petulant bullies who want to punish people for not being like them and have zero interest in governing. They got concessions from
  McCarthy and still voted against him because it’s who they are: cruel people with no integrity. Of course tempers flared, particularly with people who voted for Trump for speaker. >
  
  And this is just a preamble for the real kookoo shitshow about to come. >
  
  r/leopardsatemyface >
  
  You know what would have made this situation better? More guns. >
  
  So much yes! >
  
  No one is talking about this but feel like Democrats committed a major strategic error last night.  After the events of the 14th vote, they had won. McCarthy had been utterly humiliated. The Republicans were asking to adjourn all the way till Monday.  They would have had a whole weekend of terrible press, including all the Sunday shows. Instead of going along with it, the Dems wanted to spike the football so they forced a roll call on adjournment.  That gave GOP time to figure things out. 
  They should have recognized that this wasn’t like the other defeats when they fought adjournment. McCarthy was close and they only needed to pressure one person.  They should have just taken the win and went home. >
  
  There was no winning in this situation, even in the longest of odds, if Jeffries had been elected they would of voted to vacate immediately. This was decided when voters gave them the House. >
  
  I’m not saying they would’ve won in the fact that they would have gotten a Dem speaker. Of course that wouldn’t have happened. I’m just saying that they would’ve forced the Republicans to eat this all weekend. That’s a win in itself. And you never know what would happen over the weekend, Gaetz and others may have changed their mind 10 times by Monday. Any deal the GOP had may have fallen apart by then. >
  
  Probably promised Gaetz a pardon on any pedophilia charges he has coming to him. >
  
  The speaker of the house can grant pardons? >
  
  I’m f you don’t think McCarthy has his eyes on a run for President… >
  
  He has zero chance of being president.  He’s not very bright, even by GOP standards, and he’s very unpopular with hard right GOP base >
  
  Whether he could be or not is irrelevant to whether he THINKS he could be. McCarthy would totally make promises on the belief he would be President. And Gaetz is dumb enough to buy it. >
  
  Gaetz is smart enough to know that he and a few nay sayers could hold up McCarthy's nomination for days but you think he thinks McCarthy has enough votes to be President and his master plan was to secure a future pardon from him? Really? >
  
  None of this should come as a surprise. It’s going to be a wasted 2 years under GOP ‘leadership’ in the house. >
  
  This whole thing was a press bonanza for the biggest shitheels in the house. America has turned its judiciary over to the highest bidder and its process into reality TV. >
  
  Alpha-toxicity (usually male) is not leadership; but is a psychotic state.  Gaetz is delusional. >
  
  The worst part is I feel like I’ve seen this pic a few times now >
  
  Overpaid, useless, losers….. that do nothing for us common folk. Fuck them all !! >
  
  You mean peak shitshow? Fuck this circus and these entitled, corrupt people. These are not leaders. G'd luck, America. >
  
  How is the human trafficker and pedophile not in jail yet? >
  
  Lol. Big mad babies. >
  
  One of the liveliest exchanges of the night, and the dude in front of Gaetz in the light blue tie just scrolling on his phone >
  
  They are all just children, kicking and screaming for attention. >
  
  He was supposed to smack him over the head with his cane but the reenactment failed. >
  
  I would love to see somebody beat the tar out of gaetz >
  
  All this tension over who’s gonna run point on the dick pic investigation. >
  
  I am a blue voter who just happens to live in Rogers' district. I've never voted for him. We rarely agree on anything. I certainly have never really felt adequately represented by him.
  So I hope y'all can understand my confusion when I found out about this. >
  
  Hey, at least no one got caned this time! >
  
  Hudson didn’t waste any time. Straight to the face! Lol 🥱 >
  
  Who is the little fellow with the bow tie? >
  
  I bet that was scary. >
  
  Historically, this is pretty in control for the House. >
  
  When someone canes someone else, I’ll be excited >
  
  Can anyone transcribe what they are both saying in the clip? >
  
  Every day that congress is stuck in gridlock is a fine day, too me. Shit, better than a day of fishing without any catches, which at that is already better than a day at work. >
  
  Who gives a shit about the tantrums of these fascist traitors who all hate regular working people >
  
  Who is the bearded dude sitting right next Bobo who was buddy buddy with her all night? He actually has some swagger and an ok look, like a cool professor, so I was kind of surprised he’s a super nut if he’s so tight with Bobo. >
  
  Maybe Andy Harris (R-Md)? Not sure.