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  It seems likely that the Dems could've gotten Liz Cheney as speaker as they'd only need to convince 6 Rs to vote for her (if all the Dems voted for her) and that seems pretty doable.
  
  I highly doubt that you can get the majority of Dems to vote for a Republican. What we'd need is for all of McCarthy's backers to support Cheney, and then for enough Dems to fail to show for the vote such that the Republicans votes alone represent a majority. 
  There's a tiny chance you can get a sliver of House Dems to vote for a Republican, but that's a small number for Cheney and maybe a slightly larger number for Kinzinger... but why do that when you can preserve unanimity for Jeffries AND allow Republicans to get a working Speaker? Now, when it comes time to vote on rules, no one's sitting out. That's where the real deal would be cut.
context: Matt Gaetz also says he didn’t travel across state lines with an underage girl for sex. But he did. >
  
  And yet he's still free. I wonder if he resigned if that meant he'd have no protection from the law anymore. After all, rules for thee >
  
  His dad is still a former politician who has pull and he's got plenty of money to keep his son from ever seeing a prison cell. >
  
  Real life Sin City type shit >
  
  God damn that's accurate and also makes me want to re-watch the first Sin City asap.  While I didn't completely hate the second one I was so incredibly disappointed with the sequel >
  
  Holy shit I had hard blocked the second one out of memory, I legitimately was confused when you mentioned a second one. Until I realized I had seen it in theaters, it just sucked so bad I completely forgot it's existence. Like the sequel to 300 >
  
  All I remember from the second Sin City was Eva Green >
  
  All anyone remembers about a movie with Eva Green is her boobs. >
  
  That's not true.  I also remember her eyes. >
  
  Right. Because he wouldn't, you know, LIE >
  
  His real comment was he'd resign if the Democrats break ranks and elect McCarthy.  "I will resign...  That's how certain I am.  I can assure your viewers: That won't happen."
  He used a rhetorical device to make a point.  He wasn't making a power play (If you don't do what I want, I'm going home!) because he has no power in this context.  Now, do I believe he will actually stand behind his statement?  Not at all.
  What I find more amusing is his statement about why he isn't supporting McCarthy.  "If you want to drain the swamp, you cannot put the biggest alligator in charge of the exercise.  I'm a Florida man.  I know of what I speak."  (emphasis mine) >
  
  He's also technically right on this one, but overall wrong. Will Dems help McCarthy? Unlikely. Will they help some other Republican become speaker? Yea, that could definitely happen with the right concessions.
  Imagine a speaker Liz Cheney or Adam Kinzinger. Remember, you don't have to be a member of the House to be Speaker, and they're better candidates than Trump given that Trump is dumb as rocks and Cheney and Kinzinger have actually served in the House. >
  
  The Dems are blowing a huge opportunity by not nominating Liz Cheney and backing her. Doing so would eviscerate the insurrectionist wing of the GOP in the House. It would also be a bipartisan move that would be popular with a lot of Independents. The way things are going now with the Dems just sitting idly by and nominating Jeffries over and over, the insurrectionist wing of the GOP is gaining power (McCarthy is making a lot of concessions to them to try to win their votes).
  It seems likely that the Dems could've gotten Liz Cheney as speaker as they'd only need to convince 6 Rs to vote for her (if all the Dems voted for her) and that seems pretty doable. The window, however, is closing.