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  Well, in car traffic I can peacefully listen to some music or podcast - even eat lunch. Even if you sometimes (very rarely) spend potentially more time in there, at least you're sitting by yourself in warm and peaceful car
context: I used to live in a big US city and didn’t have a car. Public transit worked great most of the time. What sucked was if I needed/wanted to go somewhere that wasn’t accessible or needed to go at a time that didn’t work for the train/bus schedule. I also often felt kind of trapped because I couldn’t really get out of the city without a car. This was before Uber and I was too poor for a taxi most of the time. >
  
  This is only an issue because public transport isn’t developed >
  
  Plus being trapped in a crowded bus for 1 hr+ sucks far worse than having to drive to work and deal with some traffic >
  
  Like if were 45 instead or 30 minutes. I’m not turning it into a 90 minute trip one way though. >
  
  I live in swizerland and only use public transport and gotta say it has its positive and negative sides
  AND IT'S FAKING EXPENSIVE >
  
  Having been to Zurich I gotta say it’s not transit… it’s your country is expensive haha. >
  
  Even for Switzerland it's expensive >
  
  Okay. Because damn that was wildly more expensive than I even expected. Back in 2010 or so. Great trip, but the sticker shock in Zurich was wild. >
  
  The problem is public transport often takes 2-3x as long as driving. I don't want to turn my half hour work commute into an hour and a half. >
  
  Plus being trapped in a crowded bus for 1 hr+ sucks far worse than having to drive to work and deal with some traffic >
  
  Eh. You can multitask and get things done on the bus; read, send emails, listen to music, watch something on your phone. in a car you just have to sit there >
  
  
  listen to music
  
  I can play music/audiobooks/podcasts through the speakers in my car via Bluetooth, that’s all I need really. Don’t have to deal with other people in my space during a commute that way >
  
  You can’t read or write though so ultimately your productive potential is extremely limited >
  
  I can’t focus in a loud environment enough to read and write. >
  
  Sure, as long as the public transit isn't full of disgusting and violent mentally ill drug addicts. >
  
  It is >
  
  No matter how good public transport is - there will always be people who will pick cars instead. Flooding streets with hundreds of buses just for sake of making it as good as possible is completely missing the point. 
  Unless there will be form of public transit which you can take from right under your house, anytime you want, and take it wherever you want all by yourself - public transport will always be less convenient and because of that inferior to most current car users
  I know I never willingly use it, most people I know prefer cars over it (despite living in area known for terrible roads) - that's just how it is, convenience is subjectively more important than anything. And it's something public transport won't ever beat cars at >
  
  The issue is that 5 min of walking isn’t a big inconvenience when u can than just do what ever u want while reaching ur goal
  A car can be the most inconvenient thing ever once u get into traffic