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  i dont care what they are projecting
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  I keep a flashlight in my pocket anyway, it's way better than the one on the phone. Streamlight microstream, get you one and help the flashlight industry. You won't regret. >
  
  Good choice, perfect EDC light.
  Shameless gearslut for life. Nothing comes close to dedicated hardware. >
  
  Being a gearslut is the best.  Sure it's rare, but few things feel better than when someone goes "Shit I need a knife/screwdriver/flashlight/jump/patch/medkit/etc" and you're just like "Ope, I gotcha. Here." >
  
  For sure. >
  
  Flashlights on phones are a nice feature to get a little extra light in a pinch but they really don't come close to doing what a flashlight is good at >
  
  Agreed. I love my lightsaber that can light up an entire forest. >
  
  Horror movie but the protag has a 100k watt flashlight 
  Mc is walking through woods, hears a branch crunch behind him, whips around and permanently blinds the killer while also signaling his location to the police >
  
  click 3 times for the tactical strobe >
  
  Mine has a dedicated button on the side for this >
  
  And a skull cracker rim? >
  
  X on phones are hurting the X industry.
  Just learned yesterday that in 1981 Kodak was the 7th largest company in America, above most oil companies. >
  
  And alarm clocks, calculators. You're right, this can be said about so many phone features. >
  
  And MP3 players >
  
  And calendars and rolodexes >
  
  English is not my first language, but I'm 24 and I've never heard about a Rolodex. Looking it up on Google I think I've seen this device in some older movies, but I definitely didn't know its name in any language. >
  
  Another name might be a "Contacts List" or "Address Book", a Rolodex is a contacts list in circular form. >
  
  I still refer to my brain as a Rolodex >
  
  In all seriousness the flashlight industry is in a golden age right now. It used to be that a Maglight was one of the best and coolest flashlights you could easily buy. Now we have all sorts of high quality, innovative flashlights based largely around LEDs and rechargeable batteries that are cheap and easily accessible. >
  
  Yeah I have the first LED maglite that came out. Its a joke now
  I have headlamps that are 40 times as bright >
  
  Have you seen r/flashlight ? The flashlight industry is fine >
  
  It's a small subset of enthusiasts (of which I am one).  Not really something that is representative of an industry. >
  
  I just love that flashlight enthusiasts are a thing lol. >
  
  Me too >
  
  They’re such a bright light in a dark world. >
  
  Probably not much. The camera light on my phone is hardly enough for anything but finding my keys in the dark. For working on my car, or crawling around under my house I prefer considerably more output, and more directionality. >
  
  It's handy for sure but have you ever played with a dual channel, 18650 powered flashlight, with high CRI Nichia 519a 4500k on one channel and a Osram W1 thrower on the other, with a beautiful pattern of aux lights, running Anduril v2?
  The flashlight industry is kinda wild right now. >
  
  It's best to use the flashlight on your phone to find your flashlight when you really need it. >
  
  This is the way >
  
  Watches too unless they are jewelry,  point and shoot camera, phone books, paper maps, dictionaries, field guides, so many things. >
  
  Eh, nothing beats dedicated hardware for professionals. Gearslut for life, I have everything you mentioned on my back rn. >
  
  You carry a phone book and dictionary? >
  
  If anything they have helped!  Phone flashlights are a gateway drug.  Come check out /r/flashlight for an intensely illuminating experience.  The past few years have been a renaissance of technological development. >
  
  Can't wait for the next battery tech breakthrough, for literally everything, but especially for absolutely ridiculous keychain flashlights that run for days.
  I want to forget there's a sun on my keyring, that's a future worth living for. >
  
  No, they aren't. If you need a flashlight on a regular basis, it gets old having tap-PIN-tap-tap-tap just to get a light. Plus the typical smartphone light is around 40 - 50 lumens, which is not enough to find your way out of a fully darkened building. Flashlights using the popular 18650 rechargeable lithium cell can easily exceed 2000 lumens for under $50. >
  
  My phone's flashlight can be turned on/off without unlocking. Just push power, swipe down, and push the flashlight button.
  That's still more than you have to do to turn on/off a regular flashlight, though, and yeah, phone lights are very dim. >
  
  Mine is a double tap of the convenience key but I still carry a separate flashlight that is so bright I can probably see into the future >
  
  Cool, what phone do you have? My ASUS can do that too >
  
  Asus too! I have the Zenfone 6 and I want to upgrade to the Zenfone 9 but I can't find anyone who sells it in Canada >
  
  Hey same! I also want to get the Zenfone 9 but I've been holding off since I'm trying to save money for college
  Amazing who you can find on the internet, eh? >
  
  I guess people aren't so different after all :)
  Good luck with college. >
  
  Thanks! So far so good, and at least my phone is still working pretty well so I don't need to upgrade just yet
  Good luck finding one in stock soon! >
  
  Then they should make a flashlight I can scroll reddit on. Problem solved. >
  
  I think you're onto something there. >
  
  True, but if you're ever in a situation where you really need a flashlight you probably also need your phone battery to last.  You should really have a few flashlights for emergencies, and don't keep batteries in them until needed. >
  
  Came here to say that. I have candles and flashlights in a kitchen drawer for blackouts, I need my phone to last to communicate with the power company about any power outages and in case there's a second emergency. I need a flashlight to see my fuse board while I'm on the phone to the power company so I don't have to direct my tiny light from my phone to see the labels on the fuses >
  
  Definitely not.  Phone lights are handy in a pinch but they don't compare to the throw and output of a dedicated flashlight >
  
  No the hell they aren't, phone flashlights are okay in a pinch, but when I wanna see in the dark, I wanna SEE in the dark you get me? >
  
  Only thing it hurt are my eyes >
  
  The only other flashlight I have in my house is my diving flashlight which is brighter than the sun. >
  
  But phone flashlights are only good if you want to see 3 feet Infront of you >
  
  no the biggest threat to the flashlight industry was laws again police brutality, maglite took a  massive hit >
  
  Have you ever looked at flashlights? The industry isn't hurting at all. Yeah a phone light is helpful if you don't have another light handy, but they will never replace an actual flashlight in industries that use them. I have my phone on me all the time at work, but I keep a flashlight in the same pocket because my little $80 light is about 10x brighter with a much farther throw than my phone. In comparison, my phone light is practically useless. Flashlights definitely aren't going anywhere, especially not because of a puny phone light. >
  
  Tell me when your phone's battery doesn't die from using the flashlight for like 5 mins and then we'll talk.  
  Plus, like others have said - that shit is dim as hell. >
  
  They are but they got nothing on proper STRONG flashlights you know what I mean if you ever seen one in person >
  
  The global flashlight market was $5billion in 2020 and they're projecting $7billion by 2027 so, that industry is growing not hurting. >
  
  I now know where my mind is today. Kept reading "Fleshlights"! >
  
  I think half of you are missing the point.  People do use the the light feature on their phone which ultimately reduces the amount of flashlights sold.  Now if we distinguish headlamps from flashlights then I think we’ve found the most significant threat to the flashlight. Headlamps rock. >
  
  ... and the mp3 player industry, and the calculator industry, and the camera industry, and the GPS industry ... lol >
  
  Every time I use the light on my phone it reminds me that I would rather have a flashlight at that moment. Also, there's Amazon on my phone so... >
  
  Not really. 
  My dad buys the entire bin every time he goes Menards. >
  
  Cameras had it FAR worse than flashlights. Look up Kodak sales before and after camera phones >
  
  If you were to go back to 2007-2008 and told people that phones would have flashlights installed in them, people would have looked at you as if you were nuts. Phones basically can do anything nowadays, you can record videos, take pictures, use navigation directions, play music, watch videos, do calculations, call people, use calendars, send messages without having to get extra equipment. We are living in the future forsure. >
  
  40 year old me, 2013, “I can’t see anything down there”. 
  4 year old child, “use your flashlight”. 
  “I don’t have one in the truck”
  “Yes you do”
  “Where?”
  “On your phone”
  “Oh” >
  
  A phone light is handy to have especially when walking or being around dark places for a limited amount of time but torches will out do any phone. I have an emergency LED torch that sits beside the bed with a 1km range and distress beacon. No way could a phone light up something 1km away. >
  
  If you think your phone is a decent flashlight, you've never really used a good flashlight. >
  
  I remember when matpat and steph brought this up during a life is strange livestream >
  
  I agree op
  These people are delusional. I never see people use a actual flashlight unless they're camping or something.
  For everyday 99% of a time, who the hell os gonna go find they're flashlight when a phone can do it in a pinch just fine.
  Most of the times you need a flashlight, you don't need 10000 lumens, you just need to see. >
  
  The global flashlight market was $5billion in 2020 and they're projecting $7billion by 2027, so nope that industry is growing not hurting.