comment: >
  
  I beg your pardon?
context: This isn't moving the Target day back. This is, Let the kids fucking do it >
  
  That’s the status quo now anyway: politicians in place for 25+ years and don’t do shit but line their pockets and pontificate with their opinions on social issues they formed during vastly different time periods.
  Then, when things from urgency to emergency, they cower away. Wash’n’repeat every 40 years and here we are. >
  
  I’ve said it before and I’ll keep saying it. Boomers we’re to large of a voting block. When they were young - We had amazing progress in the west. When they had a future they built towards it. Then… It slowly turned. As they aged more conservative they voted to leverage against the future. And keep doing it. No one generation should ever have had this kind of power.
  I hate that I won’t have that my vote hasn’t mattered for 20 years. Xers haven’t mattered even longer. And it’s taken it’s toll on a lot of them. I really hope millennials and Z have enough in common to come together before millennials as a whole get too conservative to do better. We have a lot of work to do. >
  
  
  before millennials as a whole get too conservative to do better. 
  
  I think (and hope) this won't happen. Growing up in a rapidly changing world has (I think) made us more accepting of new developments. We've also seen what conservative looks like and hopefully will know that it is a pointlessly destructive ideology.
  No way to know except to watch it happen I suppose! >
  
  I'm in my 40s and am horrified to see my fellow once liberal late Gen-Xer/early Millennials become ultra-conservative. To the point where I have to listen to them pontificate on harsh penalties on drug users, removing support for the unemployed,  etc. when I know how much they used as teens and that they were raised on government support. >
  
  Do you call them out on it? >
  
  Yup. And then there's a pause of awkwardness and then ten minutes later they move off in the room and start spouting the same stuff to someone else. 
  That's  when I found that there is a real mentality that liberalism is youthful/rebellious/naive and conservatism is mature/respectful/wise. And that the views they expressed when they were younger was just trying to get attention and "being cool" (Their words believe it or not.). >
  
  You don't have to be friends with people that enable fascists. There are 8 billion people out here. Quit wasting your time with people like this. >
  
  Most of those 8 billion may be more conservative than you'd be willing to admit.. >
  
  That is precisely what conservative minded people want you to think and what creates more conservatives and enablers. On a policy by policy basis, people skew more liberal on average but time and time again we find that the established powers-that-be have their foot on the scale. They use their influence, and a society dedicated toward making sure that their influence is maintained, to get what they want. >
  
  wish i could get a window like that for a few of my impending obligations >
  
  Can always write in and ask for a 36 year extension on your taxes. I'm sure they'll give it equal consideration. >
  
  *but only if you are a Tory, or Tory contributor.
  Ftfy. >
  
  Sometimes we all need a deadline to go back but fuck me >
  
  Yeah, I think the original deadline of 2027 for cleaning up 3,651 waterways was a tad impossible but 2063 is way too long. >
  
  Oh don't worry, it won't be done by then either. >
  
  it's called kicking the can down the canal >
  
  Kicking the can IN the canal >
  
  And that's how we add another year >
  
  Kick the can down the road 36 years for cleanup but the Tories have time to vote and allow human sewage to be dumped in waterways. 
  Quite literally up shit’s creek without a paddle. >
  
  Anyone, I repeat anyone who votes Tory in the next General Election is either a jibbering idiot or has some serious brain damage. >
  
  As a yurop mainlander watching the British elections is just as fascinating as the american ones. It's like every week other I open the news, read something like "Tory PM pisses on grave of children killed during the troubles, continues previous Tory tradition of using  300.000£ a day for gold plated shitting paper and struck a personal double deal selling landmines to Assad and metal detectors to Syrian rebels. Country is in uproar." Then one week later it's like "poll shows Tory F. Asslicker is still preferred as PM". >
  
  It's absolutely horrifying being locked in with this nightmare. >
  
  That's longer than it took to clean up Chernobyl. >
  
  Not quite.   
  
  Following the disaster, Pripyat was replaced by the new purpose-built city of Slavutych. The USSR built the protective Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant sarcophagus by December 1986. It reduced the spread of radioactive contamination from the wreckage and protected it from weathering. The confinement shelter also provided radiological protection for the crews of the undamaged reactors at the site, which were restarted in late 1986 and 1987. However, this containment structure was only intended to last for 30 years, and required considerable reinforcement in the early 2000s. The Shelter was supplemented in 2017 by the Chernobyl New Safe Confinement which was constructed around the old structure. This larger enclosure aims to enable the removal of both the sarcophagus and the reactor debris while containing the radioactive materials inside. Clean-up is scheduled for completion by 2065.[15]   
  
  But the 2060s should be awesome! >
  
  jesus christ. what is wrong with the world? >
  
  Most easily summarized as "people do things for personal profit and the consequences are for someone else to deal with" >
  
  
  Not one English waterway, including rivers, lakes, estuaries and coastal waters is in good ecological and chemical health at present, with pollution from water treatment plants and agriculture the key sources of the damage
  Targets to clean up the majority of England’s rivers, lakes and coastal waters suffering from a cocktail of agricultural and sewage pollution have been pushed back from 2027 to 2063.
  
  Oh look another one of those Brexit "benefits" I guess as we get to put up with shit filled seas and waterways for another 36 years while the corporation continue to send insane profits to their shareholders approx £52b in shareholder pay-outs so far iirc
  
  Until Brexit the UK government was signed up to the water framework directive, which required countries to make sure all their waters achieved “good” chemical and ecological status by 2027 at the latest. The UK government later reduced the target to 75% of waterways reaching the single test of good ecological status by 2027 at the latest. The target for the majority of waterways to achieve good status in both chemical and ecological tests has now been pushed back to 2063, according to the documents.
  By 2027, only 4% of waters are currently on track to be in good overall condition.
  
  Yet the environmental agency has had their funding cut to the bone by the government because they don't want any pesky complaints against their wealthy mates running the private, for profit water companies. >
  
  Eat. The. Rich. >
  
  God stop fucking saying this shit. I agree 100% with what the comment above you is saying. It makes me angry. But this phrase has turned into Reddit’s response to every injustice for years now and nothing has changed. It’s slacktivism at its finest. >
  
  What else are we supposed to do? There's literally nothing any of us can do, the government is corrupt from the top down and there's no angle at which a regular citizen can be proactive to help change the course of that. 
  I mean hell we can't even protest in this country without being labelled an ecoterrorist by the majority >
  
  That's the thing. I've been asking "Revolution when?" for a decade now and realized that no one's going to get up until their way of life is directly threatened at which point its too late. Stupid little apes are gonna go extinct because no one could be bothered to do more than complain. >
  
  Lol how are you calling people stupid little apes while you are also not getting up and doing anything about it either? >
  
  Ever tried doing a revolution on your own? Please enlighten us as to what you think I should be doing at the moment. >
  
  I’ll join you. >
  
  Oh so they've decided simply not to do it >
  
  “These bloody peasants, always complaining about how the water is making them sick! Why, when I was a young man, I had to go a full two hours without heat because the bleeding heart Labour Party insisted our family servants have time off! I’ve never forgiven them for that indignity. If I could tough it out, why not them?”
  - The Tories, I’m sure. >
  
  Future peoples problem now! >
  
  “So it will cost 1 billion now, or 25 billion later”
  “Meh, I will be dead then it’s our kids problem” >
  
  Not to worry! With impending Climate Change, many of those waterways will dry up and be gone. So! Problem solved! >
  
  England will probably get wetter due to climate change, not drier. Most of the world is expected to get more rain, with a few exceptions. >
  
  We will get drier as the westerly winds from the ocean are generated by the difference in temperature between the Arctic and the tropics. As the Arctic warms faster the jet stream will weaken leaving us at the mercy of dry easterly winds and extreme temperatures.
  Warmer oceans mean more intense downpours but the will happen less often resulting in a net decrease in rainfall. >
  
  Christ, they’ve pushed it so far back, I might actually die before this happens… >
  
  Being in my mid 50s this is very possible for me as well, I'd be 92 by then >
  
  When the seas rise, the cleanup area will range from Oxfordshire to Surrey, and the shite will need to be shoveled from Gloucester through Kent.
  Good luck charging faeces the £15 through London. >
  
  Tories continuing to do us proud. I really wonder what world a Tory voter lives in that they're like "yea those toris are top lads taking care of us. We are in a better place now than ever!" >
  
  Conservatives conserve their power and absolutely nothing else. >
  
  Is that the reason why they left the EU? >
  
  It's not the sole reason, but it's one of the many reasons as the Tories hate to have anyone that knows better telling them what they cannot do, same as they want to rip up the human rights bill and replace it with their own which will basically consist of "Do as we say and don't ever complain"... now get back in the workhouse serf, how dare you expect food without working nonstop for 3 days so the wealthy can increase their wealth.
  That's basically what they meant by "take back control" they want the ability to remove all protections and rights, well the ones that don't benefit their wealthy mates, without the EU being able to stop them >
  
  The worst part for me is how they got all the turkeys voting for christmas, if Labour had any kind of strength they would have started using the same viral astroturfing methods that influence so many cretins online to vote against their interests. >
  
  Not in this article (because it’s an English newspaper and therefore the journalists only read one language): the number of countries that are on track for the 2027 target.
  Which is zero, unfortunately. something that everybody in the European surface water environmental field has known from the beginning would happen since this was an incredibly ambitious target in the middle of some of the world’s most intensive agriculture and densest urban settlement. >
  
  I bet it's still better than 4%. >
  
  Made me curious, googled... Germany is at 10%, making progress but also unlikely to reach the goals for 2027. >
  
  I fucking hate this government, they don't give a shit >
  
  Unfortunately they do give a shit and it all flows straight back into our rivers and seas. >
  
  This is what will happen to all climate targets etc. Joke >
  
  Carbon neutral by 2050? More like 2086 >
  
  Could we move it back by 100?  I think there is a chance that some people reading this headline might still be alive in 36 years. >
  
  "We'll finish it up soon, just give us one human generation's full youth and adult working lifetimes and we swear we'll get it done bro. Just a short 36 years and you can retire to a clean planet and get a recycled gold watch bro". >
  
  Without reading the article, what did the Tories do? >
  
  Allowed rampant privatisation of water and sewage companies, allowed for raw sewage to be dumped day and right into rivers, allowed said companies to self regulate, made sure water regulator is toothless and corrupt, left the EU based on the campaign of lies and deceit, so the EU regulations can be ditched, and now set the "fuck y'all" legal target for the clean water.
  And this is only about water. Making sure people are burning alive in their own homes is also on them (Grenfell if you'd want the reference). >
  
  Sure makes voting for candidates who represent the people and not private interests all the more important. >
  
  Definitely. Unfortunately large part of the voters feel compelled to vote against whatever Murdoch tells them to hate this particular year.
  Additionally gerrymandering and First Past The Post makes very, very hard for the smaller parties or independent candidates (basically the only ones that care) to take off. >
  
  Well, you cant clean it up while theres active polluting going on. You have to wait a generation until the UK rejoins the EU. >
  
  The question being if the EU should even let the British in again. To me it means bringing in a country who's dedication is ar question. We are already struggling with countries like hungary. >
  
  Yay, Tories! Who needs clean water anyway as long as ~~you~~ some rich Tory buddies have money >
  
  Imagine if the property value of oligarchs and billionares that lie within London was used towards creating water treatment and trash intercepting devices. Once the injustice is fully realized you won't look at the mega rich ever the same. >
  
  Didn't the Tories just make it ok to dump untreated sewage into the sea? >
  
  That was kind of the plan from the beginning. That's what they meant when they said "We want to be free from the shackles of the EU" because the EU actually cares about clean water (and other stuff) >
  
  Yep the "Take back control" meant to take things back to a more feudal time with the landed gentry and starving cold serfs with no-one able to stop them from the outside >
  
  Fuck the tories, hang em all from the fucking lamp posts >
  
  It's frustrating to read articles about your waterways being poisoned and not being able to do much about it. >
  
  Hey teacher, I know the assignment is due next week, but are you cool if I hand it in in 2053? Thanks. >
  
  They boot fucked that can down the road. >
  
  Conservatives when will they be … removed >
  
  Well, that'll happen when you start actively dumping shit in the water. >
  
  Jeez the Tories have done well in their 12yrs of being in power. Brexit is a raging success,  everyone has had a turn a being PM, every out there policy has had an airing and now the shit is staying in the rivers for another 4 decades. Brilliant work. >
  
  Ankh Morpork's river gonna stay sludgey, it seems. >
  
  I love watching the cars crossing Rufford Ford. See here on YouTube: Rufford Ford / vehicles in deep water
  But can you imagine all the oil and other nasty stuff in the water? How is this allowed? >
  
  Just to make some tories mates slightly richer >
  
  It’s great that we don’t let Europe tell us what to do now. It’s our water and we if we want it to be polluted it’s our right! We’ll done Nigel! >
  
  Yet another Brexit dividend… >
  
  The gift that keeps on giving...sigh >
  
  Not going to make the deadline? Just move it! >
  
  "can't someone else do it?" - Homer Simpson >
  
  Yeah, no need to hurry >
  
  Ah yes, the generational passing of the problem torch. A classic manoeuvre. >
  
  Disgusting >
  
  The US Clean Water Act promised that all waters in the US would be fishable and swimmable no later than 1983, and the elimination of all discharges of pollutants into navigable waters by 1985. We never moved the date back... >
  
  Whats the point of setting a deadline if they can just push it back by three and a half decades? >
  
  Motion to make an us problem a them problem? Approved. >
  
  2063? Who the fuck comes up with this bullshit? >
  
  We should find ways to get the contaminated water to the tories. Allow them to drink all their crappy work, drink in deep their failures. >
  
  RemindMe! 36 years >
  
  Caught between praising and shaming this comment
  On one hand yeah, gov't/etc is not doing their share, but there IS NO fire to light under your ass.
  This is how they get away with it, they know if the fire is lit you will revolt >
  
  Gotta pay for that monarchy >
  
  Hilarious. 36 years is a polite way of saying 'go fuck yourselves peasants' >
  
  This country is a complete and utter joke. >
  
  Gee it's almost as if conservatives don't give a shit if you or your children have clean air and water. Who'da thought? >
  
  Tories are Terrosists. They have destroyed everything I'm Britain. >
  
  You're Britain? Damn that's sad. >
  
  I am not young, my body is failing and the Tories don't want to support me so such a typo is painfully accurate as a metaphor.
  I am the washed up, crippled, remains of wasted potential that is Britain. The Tories worsened my condition and seek to bleed me to death. >
  
  Not surprising, NASA does this with planned Manned Mars missions all the time >
  
  I've heard of kicking the can down the road, but 36 years is a hell of a kick. >
  
  Got to be "World Beating" at something I guess >
  
  New strategy: wait for a miracle >
  
  This is what you get for leaving the job to Target >
  
  Ah, fuck it, you kids do it. >
  
  It's more important to ban farming and tax the very air you exhale! >
  
  Remindme! 36 years >
  
  Sweet my wife still gets to watch her mudlarking videos for another lifetime. >
  
  Wonder what King sausage fingers thinks about that. >
  
  Charles just had to have an expensive coronation. >
  
  How long is a generation? >
  
  I'm glad and sad the old "let the next guy deal with it" isn't exclusive to my country. >
  
  You want another Great Stink? This is how you get another great stink. >
  
  Someone call Fawlty he’ll take care of it >
  
  Reminds me of what we have here in Buenos Aires called the Riachuelo, for which the cleaning has been  delayed for decades >
  
  If you are less than 50 years old you're going to see billions of people die from the unmitigated effects of exponential anthropogenic climate and biosphere /r/collapse in the next couple of decades. >
  
  How about they clean up that timebomb liberty ship in the thames >
  
  It’s checked regularly and is better left alone the ordinance on the estuary mud is still live and very volatile, ss Richard Montgomery >
  
  A generational can kicking... Our offspring will clean up our mess. >
  
  You can't clean it up if you still under contract to let people dump their waste in it.especially if they gave them a back hander to do so >
  
  Have fun. >
  
  "It'd be wrong to saddle our grandchildren with debt" but "Let the grandkids deal with how bad we've let privatised water companies pollute our rivers" >
  
  Ah yes. Progress. >
  
  What a fucking joke, so we're going to have shit filled rivers and shores for the majority of my remaining life. >
  
  Honestly boils my blood this does, absolute state of this country!! >
  
  Gross 🤮 >
  
  Who's the youngest here? Danny? OY DANNY!! HOW LONG YOU RECKON YOU'LL LIVE? 30 YEARS? Okay, put 35 years. >
  
  Won't we all probably be dead by then? >
  
  Because cleaning them wouldn’t let companies dump anymore 🙃 >
  
  Shit anybody with any loans should also defer their payments for 36 years >
  
  As an American, I love reading this because misery loves company. >
  
  Well looks like we are really on top of cleaning up the planet we’ve trashed! >
  
  taxes should be moved back 36y too. >
  
  Environmental issues have been put in the same box 🌍🤔 >
  
  Yeah this poor world / human race is so fucked and all because the wealthy demand nothing other than more and more wealth regardless of the consequences as either they know they are unlikely to be around to see it, or they are convinced their wealth will allow them to buy their way out of any problems >
  
  this is a terrible idea >
  
  Kids in England can thank their parents and grandparents. What a joke lol >
  
  This is why a Tory vote is a bad vote. >
  
  Wow 36 years. I’ll apply for that job. I hope they pay time and a tied as well >
  
  On the London boat tour the guide said “if you fall in, you’ll have a lot more to worry about than freezing” 😬 >
  
  In other words push it on the next Genration. >
  
  Absolutely useless fucking government >
  
  This is truly disgusting. And yet another reason to be so glad my parents left England with me in the 70s. England is the most polluted country in Europe with the worst environmental record, the worst ecological destruction, fewest natural ecosystems, lowest level of natural wildlife - all the things you don't want in your country. I know the majority of English people love the countryside and must find this as sickening as I do. Damn conservatives - always on the wrong side of every issue. >
  
  This is why the climate strikers are blocking the road on your way to work and ruining works of art. WE NEED TO DO SHIT. BECOME THE GOVERNMENT THAT FIXES THINGS! >
  
  All the way to 2063. By which point there will be nothing left living in them and nobody left to care. Problem solved.
  God, I hate how things are done in the UK. >
  
  As a non-English person, what’s the likelihood of the Tories keeping power in the next election over there? They seem like a fat joke, from what I’ve seen. >
  
  Very hard to say as the biggest group that votes Tory is supposedly the pensioners and not only do they all read / believe all the hate filled rabid pro-Tory propaganda that the vast majority of our media spread (Daily Mail, Express, Telegraph, Times, S*n, Star, etc, etc) and they will ramp up the non-stop BS / propaganda and hatred dramatically as it gets nearer election time to try to keep the Tories in power
  But also the Tories have introduced voting restriction despite there not being the slightest evidence that it's needed and thus everyone will need approved photo ID.
  While this doesn't sound too bad on the surface it's once you look at what's "approved" that you see how it's aimed at encouraging the elderly, pro Tory voters and discouraging the younger and poorer (usually non Tory) voters as the over 65 Oyster photo ID travel pass is approved, while the over 18 Oyster photo ID travel pass is banned, they rejected the use of addressed bills, bank statements and the only things left are driving licenses or passports, both things that the young and poor are far less likely to have... supposedly they can go to the post office and apply for a free voting ID card, but the scheme isn't due to start for many months and it's still something that many people will have to take time off work, and or get a bus to get to their nearest post office to apply for this and thus many people will simply not bother... which is exactly what the Tories want
  Add to this the Tories want to remove the driving licenses and passports from anyone caught with drugs you can see it's pure voting restrictions... oh and they are using gerrymandering to change the boundaries to improve their voting chances. 
  Plus we still have FPTP so despite the fact that the majority of the country voted for anyone other than the Tories at the last GE, because their votes were split between different parties and the Tories are basically the only right wing party we have a government that has a majority rule despite only getting a minority of the votes... Minority rule here thanks to FPTP
  So voting restriction for the usually non-tory voters, gerrymandering, FPTP and the vast majority of the media with their usual rabid pro-Tory lies, hatred and propaganda it's not an easy thing to call >
  
  Jesus you're basically describing a dystopia >
  
  Same thing is happening in america >
  
  Ah yes. The "we give up" approach. >
  
  You just...you have to laugh at this.  36 years.  They might as well just say "not in my lifetime" and leave it at that.  It's purely amazing that they recognize a problem and put a "I will not see it done" timeline on it like that.    
  Amazing. >
  
  I wish I could had moved my deadlines when I was a student. >
  
  Especially by 36 fucking years >
  
  My offspring will give you the homework, teacher. >
  
  In 40 years all the rivers, canals, etc will just been slowly moving turds. Maybe the EPA had the right idea in The Simpsons Movie and someone should encase the UK in a giant dome to stop us literally shitting on the rest of the world >
  
  LOL like they'll have rivers by then.  Major ones across the world are already drying up. >
  
  Don't worry, fresh untreated sewage is dumped into waterways almost every day.
  There will be simply rivers full of undiluted, literal shit. >
  
  there already are in 3rd world countries.  look up Citarum River on youtube. >
  
  As depressingly as it sounds, until some revolution rips the two major parties* to shreds i don't expect the rapid improvements.
  *yes, Labour is infinitely better than Tory Party in this matter but they Conservative social stance of too many things makes them only good alternative to the last 12 years of shitshow, but not a good governance party. >
  
  Good move, humanity might not exist by then >
  
  It's sad watching this country become a joke as it isolates itself to focus on fixing our own problems and then completely fails to address a single thing that people care about at home. 
  Current generation of leadership will go down in history as a truly incompetent and small minded group who sailed this ship into the rocks. >
  
  Theres more important things right now like getting water half of Kent. It's been a week and a lot of people don't have water or have really low pressure water. >
  
  Well maybe, just maybe... if the for profit companies had actually invested in improving / upgrading the infrastructure to keep up with the increasing demands of increasing population / use, instead of shifting every single bit of profit into the pockets of the shareholders (at last investigation was over £52b) while refusing to do anything to keep the infrastructure up to standard to cope, then the mains water system might not have broken in the first place or possibly be quicker / easier to fix
  Did that ever occur to you, or more interested in trying to distract with whataboutisiums... oh look over here and ignore this issue? >
  
  It's not whataboutisums when myself and elderly people and children do not have any running water for a week. You can easily solve multiple problems but it's childish to not understand what is a priority for people. >
  
  Yes the point is they should have invested in keeping the infrastructure up to standard before this happens instead of pocketing every single possible penny and not keeping the system up to speed with the increasing usage demands as either the break wouldn't have happened or it would have been fixed sooner
  Either way you would heve either not had any problems or they would have been fixed that much sooner >
  
  *wot a dystopian Hellscape (who the Hell would want to live there with that corrupt to the core Tory gov't & those benefit scrounging no use royals?) >
  
  I just want to say, from the absolute bottom of my heart and with every ounce of feeling I can muster.
  Fuck the Tories and fuck anyone that voted for them or continues to vote for them. You deserve to be drip fed a bucket of shitty river water. >
  
  Where I live they try to get corporations to do it. Want to build a shipping area along the river and build your own? No. You can buy this one that was closed as a toxic site. Clean it up and it's good enough for you. >
  
  They can supply tons of weapons but can't clean up. Smh >
  
  I am having a lil fit  
  I need everyone to remember that:  
  A) there are huge problems with this world we have created through decades of societal advancement, reliability on "futuristic" means of energy/transport/food/you name it. A huge part of the global economy revolves around energy! (Just ask the US about oil: "it makes cars go")  
  B) this does not get fixed overnight. Every change to established networks have massive repercussions. Energy involves reliance on foreign powers for supply, food change means change in farmers or producers methods, transportation change means an entirely new outlook on private and public networks and manufacturing.  
  Most sane people know change is coming (I'm talking both sides of the aisle btw). Being brave about it is important... forcing it sooner than the world can adapt can create many other problems. (eg, rushing to EVs has created an exorbitant amount of pressure on lithium mines. I'm asking you to look it up, and look what it does to local populations, and look at which countries have the rare earth minerals required for growth)  
  I'm not saying to remain silent. I'm requesting a calculated, coordinated approach to change. It will come. Once the data supports a certain side (the earth will be a shit hole in a few decades unless we find sustainable energy), I guarantee you politicians will follow the money. Raise the pitchforks, just be smart about how you raise them! Do the research and be an informed protestor. It carries far more weight than an uninformed mob yelling! >
  
  Drink it down >
  
  Sadly this is not moving the target it’s totally giving up, a persons starting work today would have retired before the target date comes round!!! >
  
  Somehow Los Angeles pulled it off but England can’t?!?
  So anyways, there used to be an island called British Isles but it’s now a trash heap where we dump our heavy water byproducts and excess SALT from desalination. It’s much cleaner than before. >
  
  Another billion to Ukraine please >
  
  Peter's gonna get badgered by the in-laws for this.