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  They had 20 years, an international coalition, and trillions of dollars to figure their shit out. Fuck Afghanistan. If they hate the Taliban so much maybe they should have fought them.
context: The integrity of their brand is really taking a hit. >
  
  Yeah, I'm beginning to think they aren't such nice guys /s >
  
  You know, the more I hear about these Taliban guys, the less I care for them >
  
  You know, I’m just gonna say it. These guys are a bunch of knuckleheads. >
  
  Every single one of you is a lesser person than the Taliban fucks for having nothing to contribute to the discussion beyond trite reddit'isms. >
  
  I’m fairly certain the only way one can discuss these “people” is by being trite. >
  
  Maybe, but there's a sizeable portion of reddit users who cannot see the world through any other light. People need to stop normalizing shit behavior from shit people. >
  
  Bitching about redditors is the ultimate redditism. >
  
  “Girls were studying agriculture and engineering, but this didn’t match Afghan culture. Girls should learn, but not in areas that go against Islam and Afghan honour.”
  WTF even is this? Agriculture isn't Islamic?
  Look, if women knowing about growing crops is dangerous to your regime, your regime just plain flat out sucks. >
  
  
  Agriculture isn't Islamic?
  
  It's really rich given that the taliban fuels itself primarily on poppy farms/heroine and stolen lapis lazuli. >
  
  It's just.. weird.. like hearing "Girls were studying cooking, but this didn't match Afghan and Islam culture.".. I 'd just be dumbfounded, even trying to grasp it from a power-tripping dominate-women mindset, I still don't get it. Oh.. no! Women can produce food for our children.. that's.. bad? How does this work? >
  
  Sad thing is all the Afghan men wanted this. Otherwise they would have put in more resistance against the Taliban. >
  
  That’s a pretty myopic view. What about all of them men that walked out of their exams in protest of this? 
  It’s easy to Monday-morning quarterback when you don’t have an AK pointed at your head. 
  It looks like you’re perhaps from the US. Do you want massive wealth inequality? Loss of women’s healthcare? The continuous destruction of Native Americans? The eternal war paid for with your tax dollars? You must, otherwise you’d put in more resistance against it. >
  
  What an idiotic view. We know with irrefutable evidence that a majority of Afghanistan men want the Taliban in power and support a form of their view on Islam. Thousands of Afghanistan troops just put down their weapons and didn't even fight when they had extreme levels of funding and training in almost every area of the country. 
  Just look at Ukraine currently. They are backed and trained by NATO forces and especially the United States and are putting up an effort against what was the 2nd best military in the world at the time. The Afghani military didn't even last 4 weeks without direct United States control of them doing almost everything for them after being trained by them for a decade. It is almost laughable at this point and it's why I don't really care too much about Afghanistan anymore. As long as they stay in their borders just let them fuck up their population since a majority of their population supports their rule. You can't help people that don't want help. >
  
  I wouldn't say they want the Taliban in power but, loyalty follows money. Fear of death is also a pretty convincing thing. We were there backing them and propping their government, then all of a sudden we weren't and blah blah safety in numbers, follow the rules so I won't die etc. >
  
  The Taliban claim that women can study medicine, but pull bans like this.
  The Taliban claim they want female doctors, but ban girls from attending secondary school.
  The Taliban claim that refusing to allow a male doctor to treat a woman protects the woman.
  The Taliban claim they are tradition when they do not apply laws evenly to men and women, against tradition.  Hijab laws and many others have male applications, that they ignore.
  The Taliban claim women doctors can easily practice - when women doctors must also be accompanied at work by a man.
  The Taliban claim men agree with them while male students walk out in solidarity despite the incredible danger they face.
  The Taliban can say what it wants.  No one at the universities believes them.  The price of their regime is abandoning all progress.  They will never convince everyone at the universities, by the very nature of the process of study itself. >
  
  Tbh I don’t think the male students protesting would do anything. I think the Taliban would prefer the universities close anyway so if students walk out they would rather watch that school stay empty. They’re more focused on religious rule and not secular educated people and societies. At the end of the day they get more of what they want if schools lose attendance and students. 
  As an Afghan American with many educated women in my family…I despise what the Taliban want to achieve in their rule. 
  it bothers me that anyone could be okay watching the women in their families be robbed of something simple like an independent career, entrepreneurship opportunities, and specialized and advanced education. >
  
  If it makes you feel any better, I was at a conference recently that had some Afghani grad students studying on how to move the needle on definitions of what acceptable behaviour for women was.  Not on big gestures, but on studying the slow, creeping shift that barely gets noticed, and they were getting some good information even from pretty retrograde clerics in the area.  Basically the idea is to shift the needle imperceptibly - it's slow, but it's better absorbed culturally than a big push.  At least, their data seemed to be promising.
  Unfortunately you're utterly right that a lot would rather the universities close than do anything else.  They're completely willing to eat the cost in lives.  Definitely willing to end up with some of the worst maternal mortality in the world, but it absolutely spreads into every area. >
  
  
  “Girls were studying agriculture and engineering, but this didn’t match Afghan culture. Girls should learn, but not in areas that go against Islam and Afghan honour.”
  
  Girls in agriculture is against Afghan honour? So women don't work in the fields? What work is honourable for Afghan women?
  Anyway, this really sucks for the women there. Their lives are being destroyed by the Taliban. And not even all the members of the Taliban oppose girl education. They send their daughters to school. >
  
  I guess the honourable "work" they want women to do is stay at home and make chikdren >
  
  Religious extremists are probably the biggest incels on the planet. >
  
  Always have been. >
  
  From article:
  
  Acting higher education minister Neda Mohammad Nadeem, in his first comments on the matter, told Afghan state broadcaster RTA that several issues had prompted the decision.  
  “We told girls to have proper hijab but they didn’t and they wore dresses like they are going to a wedding ceremony,” he said.  
  “Girls were studying agriculture and engineering, but this didn’t match Afghan culture. Girls should learn, but not in areas that go against Islam and Afghan honour.” >
  
  I think the next question is Define Afghan Honor! >
  
  What's there to defend?  Why is Taliban so afraid of women in this time and age?  Give woman  chance to contribute and Afghanistan will join 21st. Century.
  And the excuse I heard...lame. >
  
  It’s indefensible >
  
  "But why won't the Western Countries give them cash since they've totally changed since the '90s?", this is why. >
  
  Taliban looks over at Iran, "How can we get protests like that?" >
  
  
  Afghanistan’s Taliban-run administration announced earlier this week it had closed universities to women partly due to female students not adhering to its interpretation of the Islamic dress code and interaction between students of different genders.
  
  Oh. In that case, I understand. It was obviously the only possible rational course of action. >
  
  It really says a lot about Afghanistan that they were not really up to fighting Taliban even with billions of US aid 
  Just compare what Ukraine does with much smaller military aid and much stronger enemy.
  I can't escape the thought that large part of Afghanistan population WANTS rulers like taliban. Still sucks for the other part of the population. >
  
  I had a chief who told me about a time he tried getting these two villages to work together. They hadn’t been friendly for hundreds of years because centuries ago someone stole a mule from the other village. The problem is pride, ego, power, and to some degree laziness. I hate to say it,  but when villages are vying for power the overall whole just won’t work. Restoring the previous monarchy in Afghanistan would have probably worked better. >
  
  
  someone stole a mule from the other village
  
  It was a horse. >
  
  Could have been a horse- but I’m pretty sure that chief told me it was a mule. >
  
  So now a centuries-long fight will erupt about whether it was a horse or a mule. >
  
  I’m betting on Horse, that chief seems kinda sus. >
  
  That would be funny, I’m curious if this other person knew the same chief because there was only a small room of people who he told- obvious exception of the ones who did the mission. >
  
  During the Islamic Golden Age, Muslim countries were the most advanced in the world. Mathematics, astronomy, medicine, philosophy, architecture, they had it all.
  Now....