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  this opinion shows a very poorly formed understanding of us-China relationships
context: Taking a page out of the British Empire book with a reverse opium crisis I see. >
  
  Wait till the US pays shipping costs to the cartels to ship to china. >
  
  China is insanely more strict on drug trafficking and usage than the US, both legally and socially. Partly because of the opium wars. >
  
  And yet, extremely lax when it comes to the trade and consumption of exotic animals. >
  
  Exotic animals in the Wuhan “wet market” may have caused Covid, but carry on. >
  
  There's no evidence of that, and pangolins are not exotic in China. >
  
  Why is there no evidence?  Also it seems you are against the wuhan market and lab leak evidence.   Where do you believe covid came from. >
  
  I think the lab leak is most probable. 
  I say no evidence for the wet market because after almost 3 years and 100s of thousands if not millions of animals checked, no pre-outbreak reservoir of the intermediate host has been identified. >
  
  Begun the opium wars have. >
  
  Not again >
  
  Third time's a charm? >
  
  "thats what u get for banning TikTok" -China, 2022 >
  
  US bans chip technology exports to china and then surprised Pikachu face when China doesn't want to cooperate with them >
  
  I really wish we could onshore all manufacturing from China via automation (or send it to other Democracies) and just cut them out of the global economy.
  Uyghur genocide, selling chemicals for drugs that kill people, bullying everybody in the South China sea, having police stations in foreign nations, stealing intellectual property left right and center - China is no one's friend right now. >
  
  Unfortunately that would plunge 10 percent of humanity back into crushing poverty. >
  
  Not if it were done incrementally >
  
  You’re right, if it was done incrementally it would incrementally push 1.4 billion people into poverty, not plunge them. >
  
  If you want me to support a government that has literal concentration camps in 2022/2023 we are not going to agree. If the government of China can change to value human rights then its another conversation. I don't hate the individual citizen of China, or even their cultural legacy which is beautiful and unique and important to the human story. However, I will never support a government as repressive and frankly evil as the CCP. If that change requires economic pain on all of our parts,   I see it as a price worth paying. >
  
  Just wanted to remind you that the rich China you want to cut off from the global economy only has a per capita income of $12,500. I’m gonna guess that’s a lot less than you make every year, if you have a job.
  The economic pain you’re describing will certainly disproportionately affect average citizens. If you think Western economic coercion is going to convince China’s government to finally value human rights, you’re kidding yourself.
  Just be honest with yourself. You want to see China burn. >
  
  No, I really don't want to see China Burn. The CCP, sure, they can suck a dick. Frankly I would like to take them, along with probably more than half the politicians in the west, throw them in a sack, throw the sack in a river and throw the river into space. (To quote Futurama.) There are grad students in my lab who are wonderful people, and I know that most Chinese people are just trying to live their lives. If you think there is a better way to stop the Uyghur genocide and stop the repression I am open to hearing it. I am not a politician, I am an engineering grad student. I am being genuine, if you have a suggestion I would love to know. >
  
  That’s not a reason to have better relations with China, that’s a reason to have a more serious relationship with Mexico. You don’t submit to pressure applied by someone that knows their exports are killing you. >
  
  Mexico under AMLO reduced cooperation because the US did nothing to reduce demand. >
  
  It's not possible to reduce demand for drugs >
  
  Opium wars v.2.0. But the boot is on the other foot. >
  
  Technically, V3 >
  
  The US should VERY seriously consider telling China that student visas may be suspended if Xi stops efforts to stem the flow of death inducing chemicals to these cartels
  International education is a huge industry in China.  Chinese parents want their children to have the ability to live outside of mainland China.  They will make themselves heard.