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  every right winger: "i'm gonna ignore that"
context: You have to take it as soon after sex as possible, on what planet could it be an abortion??? >
  
  I grew up in a Catholic house and went to Catholic schools. Despite their aversion to contraceptives in general (and somehow teen pregnancy was also a problem 🙄) they likened the pill and plan B to abortion because it's "possible" that a fertilized egg can fail to implant and that's a sin.
  What they don't say is the possibility of that is low (not how birth control or pregnancy functions) and it's possible even without the pill! So I never quite understood that logic because it means all sex is immoral since it could result in a failed pregnancy. >
  
  The idea is sex leading to life is part of God's plan. To interfere with that plan is the sin.
  So, stillbirths,miscarriages, failure to implant etc is not a sin as it can just happen.
  But intentionally doing something that causes said stillbirth/miscarriage/failure to implant a conceived child(post sperm/egg combo) is a sin as you interfered with God's plan.
  Thus surgical abortion, plan B, punching the womans stomach, whatever people do to interfere is a sin.
  The logic makes sense even if you disagree with it. >
  
  When your logic is backed by "skyman told me not to" it's reasonable to say that's not fucking logic. >
  
  Yeah, begins argument with "...is part of God's plan" and end argument with "the logic makes sense..." >
  
  Baby’s lawyer here. In 2050 it will be proven that human being are formed when semen fertilize egg. So any attempt at interrupting the normal development of suck fertilized egg will be considered murder.
  Joking on the side, you would kill a baby just after it came out of the mother belly. So why 10 minutes before? Why a day before, why 10 days before? The potential for that baby to be fully alive human being is there since day 0.
  Note that the argument of some category of being not be fully human being has been used in the past to justify indigenous killing in Central America by the Spaniard and the slavery of black people in the USA. So not a new technique, the devils always recycle their best practices >
  
  WTF are you talking about??? >
  
  It's really dumb that our government has to continue to waste time on explaining the basics of reality to half the country. >
  
  Most people (including some women) don't even understand the basics of how a woman's reproductive system works. And it will amaze you how some people (again, including women) don't understand that the length of a pregnancy is counted from the first day of your last period and not when fertilization happens. >
  
  adults shock me all the time. i was having a conversation with an acquaintance who is a gay male. we were joking around about him eventually having sex with a female. he physically cringed in revulsion and said he could never have sex with someone who pees and has babies from the same hole. 
  i just looked on quietly, stunned to silence. in that moment...i just didn't feel like correcting him. >
  
  Meanwhile, men, on the other hand... do share one hole for urinary and reproductive functions. Twofer on the stupid! >
  
  I like to remind men that they're very close to having a cloaca >
  
  I know a lot of my gender sucks, but did you have to make me imagine shitting out of dick? Lol >
  
  I had a patient once who had bad bladder cancer, and he had a colovesicular fistula (basically the cancer punched a hole in his rectum and formed a tube, permitting some of the contents of his rectum to enter his bladder and get peed out).  The medical term for what resulted was "feculent urine."
  Felt bad for the guy. >
  
  What a terrible day to be literate >
  
  (anti-abortion people) -  "Why can't you just let us punish women for having sex. We don't care about your science." >
  
  This is really their point. It never had anything to do with a “heartbeat” or whatever they claim. 
  They wants virgins or mothers, no in between. >
  
  Ultimately it would seem that the only approved method for Birth Control will be abstinence or God’s Loophole >
  
  Yes the ol poophole loophole >
  
  Especially the irony that the only approved birth control is performed by those they hate. >
  
  You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into
  "Pro-life" arguments don't come from a scientific basis to begin with. They're emotional or faith based. 
  They're not going to care if it technically "isn't abortion". It stops the baby from being born, therefore bad >
  
  It's much worse than that. Forced-birthers don't actually even care about 'maximizing the number of births' at all; what matters is who decides for whom. 
  
  The same groups demanding a ten year old give birth are the same groups demanding they be allowed to marry an eight year old are the same groups demanding prenatal health and parental leave be banned are the same groups demanding YOU be arrested for pedophilia for saying it's wrong to fuck children, and are of course the same groups demanding Hershel's exes get abortions when they're told to get them.
  
  It's you choosing that they will kill to prevent - they're entirely happy to get or coerce as many abortions as they want or need when it's to their own advantage - but if YOU can get them too on YOUR terms then the disparity is gone and they're not special for it anymore.
  They will happily fucking bomb your place to ensure such a massive inequality in their favor, and their getaway-vehicles in the legislative and judicial branches will do everything in their power to enforce it. >
  
  Remember kids, Every Accusation is a Confession and The Only Moral Abortion is MY Abortion >
  
  I don't imagine that will stop the liars from lying about it. >
  
  No but you can challenge it in court now. >
  
  INB4 Supreme Court rules FDA cannot possibly make judgements about contraceptive medicine because they were not explicitly granted that power by Congress. [SCOTUS rules EPA "doctrine" does not include carbon dioxide pollution July 2022] >
  
  The people who believe it's abortion won't care. Why would they? It's never really about stopping abortion, it's about forcing people to have children. >
  
  Yes, but it may prevent people from being charged with a fine t in the states where they're implementing extreme anti-abortion laws.  It's a smart move. Nothing to do with beliefs, just backward-ass laws. >
  
  The box even says it doesn’t cause abortions.. >
  
  Had to explain this to my father recently. I’ve always considered him to be a highly intelligent person so I was shocked at the level of stupidity he put on as I explained it. If you can’t (or refuse to) understand how Plan B works then you are not qualified to have an opinion on abortion/birth control. >
  
  That’s bc it doesn’t cause an abortion.  The Jesus Republicans don’t understand basic science. >
  
  Like facts have mattered in the past to the people trying to enslave women. >
  
  I'm 36 and I learned this in high school. Why are so many people so stupid? >
  
  They don't care they want to punish women for having sex because the more sex a woman has the less she's worth in their eyes >
  
  I dont think most right wingers, or just most people in general, realize that pregnancy does not happen within seconds. >
  
  Yeah, but the “christian” fascists are going to declare Plan “B” interferes with god’s plan. Think about that BS. In there heads, their version of god planned for these people to use a condom (which the they don’t approve of) having sex where the condom failed, so the woman needs Plan B which they don’t approve of and the woman has baby and needs assistance, which is another thing they don’t approve of. Seems to me, their god ought to work on condom quality control. >
  
  Well, God guided the minds of the researchers who developed birth control and chemical abortion to save the lives of women who would seek to terminate their pregnancies on their own anyway.
  Further, God guides the hands of every abortionist performing their procedures.
  Because nothing happens without God's consent. Not even a sparrow falls without him having ordained it. All is according to his plan.
  Is what I would say if I wanted to argue with lunatics on their level. But it's irrelevant because we live in a secular nation so you can feel free to not have all the abortions you'd like, but you can't demand the same of others. >
  
  Sounds a lot like we really don’t have that free will, with god getting his fingers in every little thing. >
  
  Meh. If consciousness is the result of chemical and electrical responses within us, all of which adhere to the laws of physics. We don't have free will anyway. >
  
  Well, duh... No kidding that it prevents implantation.
  This is what happens when uneducated people presume something scientific that is way over their heads. >
  
  Science rules! And then insurance can cover it. >
  
  Religious extremists: “ well that’s just like, your opinion man.” >
  
  Republicans: That sign won't work on me because I can't read.