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  On trillion dollars flushed down the toilet.  Imagine what good that could have done during those 20 years.
context: This also results in NGO's not being able to help and reach women (as men are not allowed near them, of course). >
  
  There also probably aren't that many women working in NGOs in Afghanistan today. Obviously some of them stayed after the Taliban took over but if you're a foreigner working in Afghanistan (especially a woman) you already know that you are risking your life. Most NGO workers are passionate about what they do but not downright suicidal. >
  
  I thought most people working for NGOs were locals, rather than foreign workers. >
  
  This is correct. >
  
  Yeah right. I also agree with this. Probably he was familiar about this. I envy people like them. They know exactly what's happening . >
  
  How do the Taliban benefit from turning Afghanistan into a failed state? They aren't doing well right now and their solution seems to be to make things much worse >
  
  You see a state failing financially and morally, they see a state that pleases Allah >
  
  Sounds like Texas >
  
  It's similar, but far more degenerate.
  Modern Christianity is far less bloodthirsty than modern Islam >
  
  Eh, tell that the the people that shoot up drag shows or kill power to large numbers of people, also killing people,  to prevent drag shows, or to the 10YO girls forced to carry their rapist's babies, or to any of the sexually abused kids from all doctrines, or to the child brides in the deep south, and that's just domestically in the US! These people literally fantasize about being the chosen heroes to survive the apocalypse, sorry I mean rapture, as the rest of us all just die. It's insane. 
  These fuckers aren't any better just because they're the home team. They're all whackjob assholes that need to stay away from me and my family.  In fact, the home team whack job assholes are far more dangerous to my family than the away team whackjob assholes are. >
  
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  That's insane. Even ultra-conservative parts of Texas is heaven compared to Taliban's Afghanistan.
  Ask ANY member of LGBT if they would rather be in Texas or the fucking Taliban. This is a purely insane take I can only find on twitter and reddit.
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  Edit: EDIT: They LITERALLY tried to hang on the plane in the hopes to avoid a Taliban Afghanistan in favor of the US. >
  
  While I agree that the taliban is demonstrably worse, as a gay person I gotta say that there are areas in the US where’s it’s highly dangerous to exist as gay. Not to mention that these people would also legislate similar heinous laws if they had the kind of power the taliban do. Crazed religious hate is the same everywhere it feels like. >
  
  Yeah all these people protesting the idea that it's not as bad actually mean it's just not as bad for them. Whether or not they realize that is irrelevant.
  For example, I'm quite sure that gay people walking around on the street fearing for their lives for existing don't really care which flavor of crazy religious person stalks and murders them, right? It will and does happen across the country here daily, and will continue to do so. What, do christians think they deserve a medal and accolades for being the kinder, gentler oppressors? They can fuck off, tbh. And while they're at it, they can leave my daughters and my vote alone. >
  
  Even if a man LITERALLY fucks another man in public in the deep deep south death would be an extreme event for them.
  Imagine holding a drag story time event in front of the Tailban. You would pray for a quick death. This is a very tolerant country. The south and the Taliban are not in the same universe.  It's a lie that people are getting killed left and right comparable to being in the Taliban in the United States.  I'm an ally, but correctly identifying a problem allows you to address it. >
  
  In a perfect world, Afghan women would all be allowed to leave Afghanistan, immediately.  That would solve the problem the spineless Taliban seem to have with women, and in a few years, would solve the world's Taliban problem. >
  
  Things have gotten so bad that my home country has recently announced that any woman from Afghanistan will automatically be granted a residence permit. As per the website;
  
  The Swedish Migration Agency estimates that life as a woman in Afghanistan has now become so difficult that it counts as persecution on the basis of gender. For this reason, Afghan women and girls seeking protection in Sweden will be considered to be refugees and be granted a residence permit.
  
  I mean, holy shit, I can't believe things have escalated to this degree. >
  
  All western countries should do this, and then assist these women in getting out of the hell hole they had the misfortune to be born in.  I applaud Sweden for their stance. >
  
  We spent trillions fighting the war for Afghanistan if we were smart we would have just adopted this policy and the problem would have solved itself in a few decades >
  
  Yeah nation building really isn’t America’s strong suit. More of a fuck you up sort of mindset. >
  
  Japan, South Korean, and Western Europe were  nation building operations. >
  
  I think the difference was that they embraced the efforts and wanted to shift towards what the US was trying to do (or were already democracies). Things fell apart in the middle east because the population just wasn't invested in what America had setup and therefore didn't bother to even try to defend it. >
  
  This is hearsay, but the way I understand it Afghanistan is still very tribal. Unless you lived in a big city like Kabul you didn't really consider yourself a citizen of the country of Afghanistan. You considered yourself a member of this tribe or this village. That's why the army folded to the Taliban like so many dominoes. They didn't consider themselves as soldiers fighting for their country, it was just some job to send money home to your tribe or village. 
  Personally I don't think that there is necessarily anything wrong with that in a vacuum, but it does explain why "nation building" efforts never succeeded and why the Taliban could easily take root again and again. >
  
  Looks like a simple solution. City-State building >
  
  Do you want warlords? Because that's how you... Wait a minute. Shit.
  I don't think the USA had any chance solving this one. >
  
  The Taliban: "Recognize us as a country and unfreeze Afghanistan's foreign assets."
  The World: "Stop sponsoring terrorists and oppressing women."
  The Taliban: "Instructions unclear, all societal progress for women reversed."
  The World: "ffs." >
  
  NGO = Non-Government Organization >
  
  Thank you >
  
  Will never forget the image of people clinging to the airplanes as they were taking off after the USA announced they were leaving Afghanistan. 
  Those poor souls >
  
  Remember when the taliban leadership said they wouldn’t do any of this?  Not like it was believable but that was short lived. >
  
  We all knew better >
  
  We could grant asylum to all the women, and then all those superior males can relax and enjoy their own bearded company by themselves in peace and harmony. Win win. >
  
  We could certainly do that, but a vast majority of the women would be unable to leave the country. Turns out the severe restrictions on their freedom is also quite effective at keeping them prisoners. >
  
  They should just ban women from their country and be done with it. These fuckheads would disappear within a generation, and the women they hate so much can go and live a decent life around people that are interested in harmonious existence >
  
  They want women, just as slaves. They think women should be slaves to men. That’s what it boils down to. >
  
  Yeah, ban half of your population from working, that’ll do wonders for your economy. 
  Fucking idiots. >
  
  But it pleases god and that's what's most important!
  /s obviously. >
  
  One of the poorest most corrupt countries keeps campaign promise to remain poorest, most corrupt >
  
  Well if they hate women that much, all the women should be able to leave, and the Taliban will just have to fuck themselves. >
  
  The joke sadly doesn't account for the Taliban view that women are to stay in the household, be slaves to their family and breeding machines. >
  
  Yeah I know... its a sad situation there, and what can anyone really do about it? >
  
  Offer asylum. Doesn’t matter if people want to leave, there needs to be countries that allow them to enter. >
  
  What the fuck man. Why do people act so insane. Like hijab isn’t even supposed to be an enforceable thing it’s something between you and your religion. Some men will just use the slightest excuse to subjugate women. >
  
  Behind this is often the sweet sweet Gulf States oil money with which radical Islamism is spread see Indonesia and Malaysia. >
  
  Right, okay, Afghanistan has a number of crises on their hands and their solution is to ban half their available workforce from working. A+ logic. Top quality. Yup, that is definitely the way to get ahead. >
  
  Female suicide numbers must be through the roof right now in Afghanistan. >
  
  Read this “female suicide bombers” which still kinda made sense to me >
  
  I'm ethnically Afghan and the real problem is the men in Afghanistan don't want anything to change. If all the men got up and demanded change, shit would change. >
  
  At this point, aren't a lot of them living in such poverty that change would be good? >
  
  I guess their hatred for women is still greater... >
  
  They probably blame women. >
  
  Oh, now they're forcing you to be uneducated and dependent on men. Fucking great. >
  
  Just like it was before we invaded 20 plus yrs ago. >
  
  How do they justify this?! Do they have no compassion? Can they not imagine how they'd feel if similarly subjugated. God, how I abhor these men.
  And you know they'll turn around and pleasure themselves with women's bodies, expecting them to be grateful! Fuck. >
  
  They are sick, sick people who have no regard for life.  Anything that is not a male human, is property and they do it in the the name of Allah.  Smh >
  
  It just makes me so angry in side. 
  What the fuck is wrong with humans?
  Why can't we all just be fucking nice? Like I'm totally on board for retaliation for individual acts, but an entire gender/race/culture? Humans are just so goddamn maddening. >
  
  Because long ago smart men knew that stupid men (and some women) could be easily controlled by religion. Pair that with a world that became largely patriarchal and here we are. >
  
  Religious fanatics are a blight on humanity.  Regardless of what religion they follow >
  
  One wonders how much is religious vs. wanting power/subordination over women and using religion as the excuse. It’ll be different for each person. Either way it sucks >
  
  Get your point and agree with it, but religion is still the medium. >
  
  This delays the new Afghan government getting international recognition. >
  
  I doubt they care. >
  
  Half of a population suddenly stopped working? Good luck with that >
  
  Also creates a situation where women will have problems, but no specialist can help them because they’re all men and men are forbidden to interact with unrelated women. >
  
  The Taliban are actively trying to reduce the amount of Taliban. It's kinda the same thing as thanking Hitler for killing that Hitler guy. >
  
  The US should have made the Afghan military all women, because the majority of their men are pussies, or completely ok with this. The women would have put up one hell of a fight >
  
  Help us, NGOs! You're our only hope! Not the women though! >
  
  Fuck the taliban. Dumb fucks. >
  
  If incels were given power >
  
  Do... They not see what's happening in Iran? >
  
  Iran has an oppressive dictatorship but it isnt a failed state. People there are educated, interact with the international community at large and are actively protesting against their govt. >
  
  Ahhhh that makes a lot of sense thank you!  ☺️ >
  
  I really enjoyed this civil interaction! >
  
  It's hard in politics but not impossible haha ☺️ >
  
  Incel Islamists taking it to the next level >
  
  Will NGOs leave Afghanistan, or will they stay and comply with such "rules" to continue humanitarian work? If female employees are not allowed, that means Afghan women will not receive any resources these NGOs offer. >
  
  We’ll they’re not exactly the Tali-include everyone else now are they? >
  
  In Afghanistan women are valued less than cattle. >
  
  NGO will be like "ok bye"... >
  
  The Taliban loves men. Take from that what you will. >
  
  The dissappearance of the Taliban and any other criminally institutionalized form of religion is my Christmas wish. Those poor women and children They didnt choose to be born in such dysfunction-to be treated like something lesser than human.  Women are not slaves they are human beings Goddammit! It makes me sick . >
  
  can we finally call this what it is: gender aparthied
  Why is this more acceptable that what went on in South Africa? >
  
  It isn’t gender apartheid, the word you are looking for is “Islam”. >
  
  can't argue >
  
  if incels were allowed to run a country >
  
  Taliban should be eradicated from Earth. >
  
  Russia and the US both tried that. But the Taliban have rifles. You know, the things that reddit keyboard warriors insist are useless against big governments. >
  
  A government must be particularly stupid to cut its country's workforce in half. >
  
  How can they do this to their wives, children, sisters and mothers?
  Are they trying to go back to the Stone Age?
  Fucking human trash, where are the super heroes when we need them? >
  
  They literally don’t regard the women in their lives the way you do. After that, the why and how is straightforward.
  Second question: Yes stone age output from their culture, but with the benefits of the modern world streaming in from the outside in exchange for their natural resources (Oil). In the limit, they will have nothing to give in exchange for luxury and drive themselves one at a time back to stone age accommodations.
  Third question: 🤷🏻‍♂️ >
  
  For real friend. >
  
  religion is poison. >
  
  Because it actually is all men? >
  
  What a bunch of fucking incels >
  
  They will never, ever be civilized. >
  
  Sincerely, fuck them. Thinking about these poor women 😔 >
  
  At this rate, they'll have no women left and the men remaining will have to mate with one-another... >
  
  Handmaids tale vibes. >
  
  Destroy the fucking Taliban. >
  
  Good to know that my best friend died there so that the Talaban can be back in control 20 years later. >
  
  I don't understand why reducing the workforce by nearly 50% seems like a good idea to them... >
  
  Religion. Great way to turn smart people into stupid people. >
  
  Dear Taliban,
  No.
  Signed,
  All non-assholes. >
  
  Actually pretty gay. They have the same thing going on as the ancient Greeks in that women and men are kept apart so that older men have young boys as lovers because the women are all inaccessible. It not gay unless the guy is an adult. >
  
  Yeah, outlawing homosexuality doesn’t cause it to disappear either, it just drives it underground and makes rape of males more common, especially underage boys. See also Russia and their prison culture.
  The Taliban are successfully making Afghanistan a shithole where the population lives in poverty because the economy is hobbled, where women have no rights, girls are sold off at young ages, and boys are raped. >
  
  The trauma of being raped as boys no doubt makes Afghan men who suffered it angry and willing to lash out: perfect recruits for the Taliban. >
  
  What a bunch of cowards. So many insecure, inadequate men who are afraid of being outshown by talented women. >
  
  I wonder how long before the NGO’s collectively decide to stop spending money and creating infrastructure in their stupid, backwards caliphate?
  How stupid do you have to be to slap charitable organizations in the face while they’re providing agricultural , medical and financial relief to your squalid, misogynistic country?
  Cutting off your nose to spite your own face.  Pathetic. >
  
  They don't want women. They only want cocks. Cocks everywhere. There will be mandatory checks to see if you have a cock. There will be physical handling of the cock to make sure it's a cock. And not just any cock. Only thick, juicy cocks. Taliban is all about cocks. >
  
  We should just take the women and send a couple more goats for'em. I'll feel bad for the goats for sure but at least we will get their daughters qnd mothers out of there. >
  
  Females order Taliban to donate their balls to the goats or else they’ll be shot off when they come home. >
  
  I know this will not be a popular opinion, but I have given up caring about Afghanistan’s problems. After years of western intervention and billions of dollars in aid and military hardware and training to fight the Taliban, the Afghans themselves laid down their weapons and surrendered / supported the return of the Taliban. “The outside world is doing nothing” argument rings hollow now. This is what Afghans wanted / accepted. It is they who need to change things. Changes from the outside, invasions, etc. didn’t work. These new rules should only surprise the stupidest of people. And speaking of stupidest people, the Taliban is an excellent example of what happens when anti-intellectuals take power. >
  
  Remote work only? >
  
  But... but.... They promised! >
  
  Hey, let's ban the Taliban. >
  
  Taliban really love women!! I wonder if any of the Taliban have mothers! >
  
  The NGOs should just pull out entirely, tbh. That should solve the problem >
  
  Talking to someone in the field, I was told that the vast majority of NGOs will stop operations in solidarity, because at a minimum, female workers are the backbone of these organizations.