comment: >
  
  It's their culture remember we can't say anything bad about somebody else's culture
context: The integrity of their brand is really taking a hit. >
  
  Yeah, I'm beginning to think they aren't such nice guys /s >
  
  You know, the more I hear about these Taliban guys, the less I care for them >
  
  You know, I’m just gonna say it. These guys are a bunch of knuckleheads. >
  
  Every single one of you is a lesser person than the Taliban fucks for having nothing to contribute to the discussion beyond trite reddit'isms. >
  
  I’m fairly certain the only way one can discuss these “people” is by being trite. >
  
  Maybe, but there's a sizeable portion of reddit users who cannot see the world through any other light. People need to stop normalizing shit behavior from shit people. >
  
  Bitching about redditors is the ultimate redditism. >
  
  “Girls were studying agriculture and engineering, but this didn’t match Afghan culture. Girls should learn, but not in areas that go against Islam and Afghan honour.”
  WTF even is this? Agriculture isn't Islamic?
  Look, if women knowing about growing crops is dangerous to your regime, your regime just plain flat out sucks. >
  
  
  Agriculture isn't Islamic?
  
  It's really rich given that the taliban fuels itself primarily on poppy farms/heroine and stolen lapis lazuli. >
  
  It's just.. weird.. like hearing "Girls were studying cooking, but this didn't match Afghan and Islam culture.".. I 'd just be dumbfounded, even trying to grasp it from a power-tripping dominate-women mindset, I still don't get it. Oh.. no! Women can produce food for our children.. that's.. bad? How does this work? >
  
  Sad thing is all the Afghan men wanted this. Otherwise they would have put in more resistance against the Taliban. >
  
  That’s a pretty myopic view. What about all of them men that walked out of their exams in protest of this? 
  It’s easy to Monday-morning quarterback when you don’t have an AK pointed at your head. 
  It looks like you’re perhaps from the US. Do you want massive wealth inequality? Loss of women’s healthcare? The continuous destruction of Native Americans? The eternal war paid for with your tax dollars? You must, otherwise you’d put in more resistance against it. >
  
  What an idiotic view. We know with irrefutable evidence that a majority of Afghanistan men want the Taliban in power and support a form of their view on Islam. Thousands of Afghanistan troops just put down their weapons and didn't even fight when they had extreme levels of funding and training in almost every area of the country. 
  Just look at Ukraine currently. They are backed and trained by NATO forces and especially the United States and are putting up an effort against what was the 2nd best military in the world at the time. The Afghani military didn't even last 4 weeks without direct United States control of them doing almost everything for them after being trained by them for a decade. It is almost laughable at this point and it's why I don't really care too much about Afghanistan anymore. As long as they stay in their borders just let them fuck up their population since a majority of their population supports their rule. You can't help people that don't want help. >
  
  I wouldn't say they want the Taliban in power but, loyalty follows money. Fear of death is also a pretty convincing thing. We were there backing them and propping their government, then all of a sudden we weren't and blah blah safety in numbers, follow the rules so I won't die etc. >
  
  The Taliban claim that women can study medicine, but pull bans like this.
  The Taliban claim they want female doctors, but ban girls from attending secondary school.
  The Taliban claim that refusing to allow a male doctor to treat a woman protects the woman.
  The Taliban claim they are tradition when they do not apply laws evenly to men and women, against tradition.  Hijab laws and many others have male applications, that they ignore.
  The Taliban claim women doctors can easily practice - when women doctors must also be accompanied at work by a man.
  The Taliban claim men agree with them while male students walk out in solidarity despite the incredible danger they face.
  The Taliban can say what it wants.  No one at the universities believes them.  The price of their regime is abandoning all progress.  They will never convince everyone at the universities, by the very nature of the process of study itself. >
  
  Tbh I don’t think the male students protesting would do anything. I think the Taliban would prefer the universities close anyway so if students walk out they would rather watch that school stay empty. They’re more focused on religious rule and not secular educated people and societies. At the end of the day they get more of what they want if schools lose attendance and students. 
  As an Afghan American with many educated women in my family…I despise what the Taliban want to achieve in their rule. 
  it bothers me that anyone could be okay watching the women in their families be robbed of something simple like an independent career, entrepreneurship opportunities, and specialized and advanced education. >
  
  If it makes you feel any better, I was at a conference recently that had some Afghani grad students studying on how to move the needle on definitions of what acceptable behaviour for women was.  Not on big gestures, but on studying the slow, creeping shift that barely gets noticed, and they were getting some good information even from pretty retrograde clerics in the area.  Basically the idea is to shift the needle imperceptibly - it's slow, but it's better absorbed culturally than a big push.  At least, their data seemed to be promising.
  Unfortunately you're utterly right that a lot would rather the universities close than do anything else.  They're completely willing to eat the cost in lives.  Definitely willing to end up with some of the worst maternal mortality in the world, but it absolutely spreads into every area. >
  
  
  “Girls were studying agriculture and engineering, but this didn’t match Afghan culture. Girls should learn, but not in areas that go against Islam and Afghan honour.”
  
  Girls in agriculture is against Afghan honour? So women don't work in the fields? What work is honourable for Afghan women?
  Anyway, this really sucks for the women there. Their lives are being destroyed by the Taliban. And not even all the members of the Taliban oppose girl education. They send their daughters to school. >
  
  I guess the honourable "work" they want women to do is stay at home and make chikdren >
  
  Religious extremists are probably the biggest incels on the planet. >
  
  Always have been. >
  
  From article:
  
  Acting higher education minister Neda Mohammad Nadeem, in his first comments on the matter, told Afghan state broadcaster RTA that several issues had prompted the decision.  
  “We told girls to have proper hijab but they didn’t and they wore dresses like they are going to a wedding ceremony,” he said.  
  “Girls were studying agriculture and engineering, but this didn’t match Afghan culture. Girls should learn, but not in areas that go against Islam and Afghan honour.” >
  
  I think the next question is Define Afghan Honor! >
  
  What's there to defend?  Why is Taliban so afraid of women in this time and age?  Give woman  chance to contribute and Afghanistan will join 21st. Century.
  And the excuse I heard...lame. >
  
  It’s indefensible >
  
  "But why won't the Western Countries give them cash since they've totally changed since the '90s?", this is why. >
  
  Taliban looks over at Iran, "How can we get protests like that?" >
  
  
  Afghanistan’s Taliban-run administration announced earlier this week it had closed universities to women partly due to female students not adhering to its interpretation of the Islamic dress code and interaction between students of different genders.
  
  Oh. In that case, I understand. It was obviously the only possible rational course of action. >
  
  It really says a lot about Afghanistan that they were not really up to fighting Taliban even with billions of US aid 
  Just compare what Ukraine does with much smaller military aid and much stronger enemy.
  I can't escape the thought that large part of Afghanistan population WANTS rulers like taliban. Still sucks for the other part of the population. >
  
  I had a chief who told me about a time he tried getting these two villages to work together. They hadn’t been friendly for hundreds of years because centuries ago someone stole a mule from the other village. The problem is pride, ego, power, and to some degree laziness. I hate to say it,  but when villages are vying for power the overall whole just won’t work. Restoring the previous monarchy in Afghanistan would have probably worked better. >
  
  
  someone stole a mule from the other village
  
  It was a horse. >
  
  Could have been a horse- but I’m pretty sure that chief told me it was a mule. >
  
  So now a centuries-long fight will erupt about whether it was a horse or a mule. >
  
  I’m betting on Horse, that chief seems kinda sus. >
  
  That would be funny, I’m curious if this other person knew the same chief because there was only a small room of people who he told- obvious exception of the ones who did the mission. >
  
  During the Islamic Golden Age, Muslim countries were the most advanced in the world. Mathematics, astronomy, medicine, philosophy, architecture, they had it all.
  Now.... >
  
  They had 20 years, an international coalition, and trillions of dollars to figure their shit out. Fuck Afghanistan. If they hate the Taliban so much maybe they should have fought them. >
  
  They don't hate the Taliban.  We hate the Taliban.  Disentangle yourself from the propaganda and look at what's really happening. >
  
  Then they should be happy with what they have now. >
  
  I guess they are happy. As in males are happy. Because they are chauvinistic dipshits 
  no one asked the women there because they don’t count in Afghan society. 
  the male students where laughing at the female students as the coalition armies where leaving. Haha you’ll go back to the kitchen haha
  imagine the worst sexist douchebags at your school. But that’s the entire male population that rules your society , government and army
  That’s what they have to live with. Fucking unfixable , because they don’t want to change. >
  
  Well then shouldn’t the women have fought? The Americans and other foreign troops offered to train them as well in the Afghan army. >
  
  Some did and joined the army. 
  but you can’t expect every 15 to 20 year old Afghan girl to join the army grab an Ak47 and fight the males around them , brothers and fathers and uncles and even a fair share of indoctrinated moms and grandmas. 
  Maybe if they had a Time Machine and could see what was coming they might have fought harder … But they probably didn’t even believe it themselves. 
  imagine being born post Taliban regime… but still in a very very patriarchal society. Chances are you won’t be free to do so. Even with no official Taliban rule the males that gladly took their rights away in the last year they where all around them. 
  Best bet is to leave that place. >
  
  Leave or suffer in silence >
  
  Morons if they think they can defend their position to the global society.  There are some things that are either right or wrong. >
  
  What I don’t understand is why the Taliban minister is even bothering with defending. The regime is already bad in the eyes of most (I think?) of the world, in terms of PR and Int’l relations. It’s not like the majority of the world is going to change its viewpoint and opinions of this regime at this point. >
  
  They aren't trying to justify themselves to 'the world', they are trying to justify themselves to other Islamic countries that, while backwards in their own right, aren't quite as backwards as Afghanistan. >
  
  Afghanistan under the Taliban, is like scraping the bottom of the barrel. >
  
  spent all that time and money there. They should have trained and armed the women. this wouldn't continue to be a problem. >
  
  If all the women were armed - they would not have been dismissed as ‘nothing’.  They would be taken seriously.  They might have even frightened them off !? >
  
  They could create and defend families or even trives that are selerate from the Talib bs >
  
  
  The higher education minister said that the Taliban “asked the world not to interfere in our affairs”
  
  They say this, and then they ask for international aid.  Make up your mind. >
  
  Islamic barbarians doing backwards shit, what else is new. >
  
  While Islam is currently the biggest mustache twirling villain I think the bigger issue is abrahamic religion in general.  Perhaps all organized religion but living in the western world I only hear about atrocities committed in the name of that God.
  Again I'm pretty ignorant to most cultures, but I've never heard of a hate crime or sex crime committed in the name of Buddha.  I know India is known for sexual violence but I've never heard it be connected to Hinduism and everything I've heard about Sikhism is that they are just the fuckin nicest most helpful people you could ever meet. >
  
  Alot of ignorance. 
  Atrocities are commited by man. Some of the greatest atrocities were in absence of any religious influence. >
  
  "If good things happen, it's all because of Islam and Quran. if bad things happen, it's all because of muslims alone and had nothing to do with Islam"
  🙄🥱
  Don't you see how hypocritical that is? >
  
  Interesting inference youve made. Wrong and also prejudiced but ok.  
  Religion and anti religion are still just driven by human interests. >
  
  Evil people do evil things. Unexpected. >
  
  I am suprised they care at all. I thought their reaction would be " yeah we did it so what ?" >
  
  Fuck the taliban >
  
  Their practice of their religion and culture grounded in it's interpretation is oppressive af. Every one is forced in roles and no one can leave and not a abide. The men who had the power to prevent this stuff had all the weapons and money available to them. They just lacked balls... >
  
  It’s 1,000 years out of date. >
  
  There’s nothing to defend here caveman. >
  
  They wanted it.  They asked for it.  They begged for it.  Now they have it. >
  
  You get the government you deserve >
  
  "As global backlash grows"  
  Sorry, who was on team "Hey, lets see if the Taliban turn out to be really chill"?! >
  
  So now if women fall sick, how can men demand women doctor?
  No muslim communities that scream about injustices to Muslims speak about this atrocities against women. >
  
  because mohamed would approve of everything the taleb do. but no muslim wants to say that to kaffir. >
  
  I'll admit that I'm slightly surprised that they completely shut down women's higher education. I'd have expected something more like a very small number of ultra-obedient women from Taliban-supporting families to be permitted to study a narrow range of "acceptable" subjects. Basically a few hundred women in burqas being taught home economics, midwifery and classical Arabic by other women in burqas in a strictly segregated environment. >
  
  Oh sure, it's because of the mixing of genders.
  Now explain why you ban women and not men.