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  Only traitors and insurrectionists support him and think he’s innocent. Ok maybe idiots, too…
context: A bipartisan Congressional committee has just recommended a former president be barred from holding any elected office again. Another first for the mango Mussolini >
  
  But will it actually happen though? >
  
  Only if Democrats won a massive supermajority in 2024 and Trump tries another Jan 6 >
  
  The repubs sure do want Desantis and seem aware and frustrated that Trump might try and spoil it and run third party. Their propaganda machine has been slow dripping the antidote to his followers via boy oh boy, it turns out he’s a bit of a piece of shit that tricked us style news. >
  
  We all did predict years ago that there’d come a point where every Trump supporter denies their orange themed sexual fantasies and disavow ever supporting him. Honesty, it seems to have come sooner than any of us expected. >
  
  Post nut clarity >
  
  There is no clarify when it's straight up blatant dishonesty. >
  
  Post-nut denial. Post-nut disgust? >
  
  look for the ones with a reddish band across their forehead and one arm chewed off. >
  
  I was able to watch most of the hearings.  He's guilty as fuck, and most of the pertinent evidence came from his inner circle.  The committee spent much of its energy gathering testimony from his people. This should be the last we see of Trump in politics. >
  
  Lol, wish I had your optimism >
  
  Honestly the thing that really ended Trump was not the genocide, the biggest scam in human history, or the four years of nightmare.
  It was that pathetic NFT trading card ad. >
  
  Nah, it was losing. Repeatedly. NFTs we're just further encouragement to quit him. >
  
  The inner party's abandonment of him as a valuable tool was his losses, sure. But his worshipping throngs of supporters, short of outright zealots, were the ones shaken by the obvious cash grab with the NFT. >
  
  Again... not a riot.  It was an insurrection. >
  
  It was planned. They made tee shirts >
  
  I went to prison and all I got was this shitty t-shirt? >
  
  And a felony record >
  
  Get yours on a Graphic- Tee! A 'Wrap-Shirt'! >
  
  Lock him up lock him up lock him up >
  
  Good idea and how about using the 14th amendment section 3 on Trump himself since he caused the insurrection and overthrow the government >
  
  
  In response to the panel's criminal referrals, Mr Trump said: "These folks don't get it that when they come after me, people who love freedom rally around me. It strengthens me."
  
  You mean those Jan. 6 protesters currently doing time, because that's where you're going. >
  
  That quote honestly sounds like something Homelander would say. >
  
  he’s basically homelander except he sends goons to do the dirty work instead of doing it himself >
  
  If the DOJ doesn't actually do something about this traitor I'm going on unpaid leave to protest in DC.  Sick of this shit.  Nothing matters if there's no accountability and the law is only to be used as a cudgel against the poor. >
  
  this investigation and report coming out with no indictment is worse than no investigation. 
  For the sake of democracy, we really need that indictment to come in 2023 >
  
  It is VERY important to understand that within the United States there are THREE branches of government 
  The Legislative branch - Makes laws- and performs a ton of analysis ( committees, panels to ascertain facts and opinions) - of course in the USA opinions are often clouded by lobbyist, and other charlatans.
  The. Executive Branch- they carry out the work of the Legislative Branch- example some may consider him “Sleepy Joe” but he is the chief executive of the most modern governing body in human history. It’s not so much him as how he selects, empowers, and if necessary fires appointees based on there performance In carrying out their responsibilities. 
  The Judicial Branch- This Branches purpose is to evaluate the law and if necessary, prosecute those humans responsible for breaking the laws made up by the Legislative Branch. They are empowered to apply guidelines of punishment ( established by the Legislative Branch).
  At time in our recent history- laws can be immoral and unjust. The most recent example in the United States is the current recommended penalty for Cocaine Powder or paste versus Crack Cocaine ( power cocaine with an added step that allowed people to smoke). The sentencing guidelines were written such that a segment of society guilty of possession ( Predominantly poor and at the time the law was drafted minority-African Americans ) currently receives a much greater penalty than the segment that is found guilty of powder possession ( at the time the law was drafted -Anglo Americans. ) case in point Tim Allen (American actor “the Santa Clause “ and pretty much considered a wholesome family friendly actor, in 1978 was caught with 650 Grams ( almost 1.5 lbs) of Cocaine - did two years in jail. Case 2 to 5,000 - unknown “ Ralphs” arrested for possession and trafficking crack Cocaine first time arrest. By the current federal guideline the judge must sentence to at least five years in prison. The average jail time is 74 months (6 years).
  Now on the actions of the former president, We have the Judicial Branch doing their work ( on multiple cases) we will see what happens. The wheels of justice turn slowly, however turn they will. >
  
  "The wheels of justice" have been actively sabotaged by Republicans for years but drastically stop in recent times. 
  If you think this ends in anything but a civil war, I'm betting you'll be in for a shock. >
  
  Civil war- NP. I do not think this period will end in a civil war. On a personal note, I’ve seen people (friends) shot and killed in front of me. So in a way, I’ve got an inoculation on what Murder, Death, Kill is. I do not recommend people going through this as the inoculation process, and the carrying about oneself  over future months and years after these types of events can be at times destabilizing…..
  You may be SHOCKED to learn that “some” left leaning citizens are indoctrinating this possibility into their livelihoods. >
  
  
  You may be SHOCKED to learn that “some” left leaning citizens are indoctrinating this possibility into their livelihoods.
  
  Lol I am one >
  
  Im surprised Trump hasnt just called to his army by now. >
  
  
  In response to the panel's criminal referrals, Mr Trump said: "These folks don't get it that when they come after me, people who love freedom rally around me. It strengthens me." >
  
  It's obvious he's positioned himself in such a way that justice coming his way actually just looks like a political attack to his followers....and not literally just law and order happening.
  He knows it and whoever his handlers are know it.
  Trump card played. Pretty solid ngl. The harder he's gone after for crimes, regardless of whether he's guilty or not, plays right into his prospects actually. He really could just shoot someone and his followers would still be on board and it'd look like the woke left overrun government is coming after him. >
  
  I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters. He said it himself. >
  
  Republicans planned and organized a coup with support from DHS and FBI , and the media STILL calls it a "capitol riot" >
  
  
  Republicans planned and organized a coup with support from DHS and FBI
  
  I've said this before. The FBI had to have received hundreds, if not thousands of tips from people saying there was going to be violence. Hell, there were probably screenshots of the posts. Instead they fucking ignore the tips, THEN ask the general public for help finding the very same people who posted their plans online prior to J6? It smells off.
  Another redditor proposed a theory: most of the sedition hunters are left leaning; FBI is notoriously right-wing. After ignoring the tips about RWNJ violence on the 6th they request tips from the (more left leaning) public. Tips that require personally identifying information (name, email, home address, phone number, etc) that can be tracked. 
  Given the FBI's history, I would not be surprised if they stored and used that personal information against left leaning people/groups. >
  
  Your idea falls apart when recognizing there are far easier ways to ID liberals. Let’s not pretend they don’t already know exactly who & where you are and how you voted just from having your vote. They’ll demonize the left, then dox & try some Rwandan shit. Already seen precursors with stochastic terrorism, and it’s the cheapest method for these dollar worshipping edgelords. >
  
  True. >
  
  Jail him, make an example of him 🤷🏻‍♂️ >
  
  Donald trump sucked my dick once. >
  
  no doubt >
  
  ~~Riot~~ insurrection >
  
  when his press secretary (Hope Hicks) was directly asked by Trump if she thought it was as bad as everyone was saying a few days after 1/6 (IE people calling it an insurrection and treason) she replied "Yes." >
  
  I just hate how it’s always “accused,” “suggests,” “referrals,” as if we didn’t know from watching with our bare eyes what happened. Most of my friends and I were simply reading his tweets months before the election and saying, “Yo, this is a coup attempt.” The way we have to walk on egg shells b/c of politics is proof our system is broken, the DOJ should be done with sticking this fucker behind bars by now. Should have been arrested January 7. >
  
  Because he can sue if they make a definitive determination of guilt without proof that a guilty verdict was delivered. >
  
  Now would be a good time for the GOP to throw this disgusting human filth under the bus.  Back up and roll over him again...and again... >
  
  Barring him from office will be the end of it. Congress will say they did their part and the DOJ will throw their hands up. There is absolutely zero chance he ever see the inside of a cell. >
  
  I dont want him barred from office. I want him to split the desantis vote >
  
  Trump will eventually do time (not much though), then when he learns (if that’s possible) that as an ex- convict he can’t run for office, he’ll attempt a coup. >
  
  *Another coup >
  
  He told everyone he was going to do it, why was anyone surprised he did? >
  
  In the beginning I thought he was a piece of shit but no way was he involved.  I stand corrected and I appreciate the work the committee did.  I want to thank Liz Cheney because even though I don’t believe in what she votes for she saw the wrong and pursued it, at the expense of her job.
  I hope the DOJ can get a conviction or two out of this though I doubt he’d do time. >
  
  I don't care how many it takes to nail his fat ass to the wall! >
  
  Lock him up! Lock him up! >
  
  So bring on the multiple indictments, trials, convictions and JAIL TIME (sentences to be served consecutively). >
  
  Different rules for the rich and powerful. >
  
  If this was anyone else they would never be seeing light again for the rest of their lives.  This is just one of things he did. >
  
  Wake me up when it says "prosecuted" and not "accused" >
  
  You may want convicted rather than prosecuted. Being prosecuted doesn’t necessarily mean it was successful. >
  
  Benedict Adolf Donald tells it all.  This cretin is evil and needs to pay the ultimate price for his actions. He's an enemy of the people of the U.S. including those around him that promoted his terrorists attack on the Capital. >
  
  Rain accused of being water that falls from the sky.
  The shit was obvious as a porn star acting. Which isn't surprising giving the dude paid porn star to spank him with his own image. >
  
  When does this soft bag of orange dairy diarrhea go to jail? >
  
  So what now...? Best case scenario, he gets indicted, but what does that mean? Is that the "rich and powerful" version of being charged with a crime, and will it lead to ANOTHER lengthy investigation or a trial completely vulnerable to the whims of the corrupt Republican party? 
  Like... What happens now? >
  
  Right wing think tanks have spent DECADES making 'conspiracy' into a dirty word....why?
  Because the best way to engage in a conspiracy is to make people afraid to even THINK it, no less say it out loud. >
  
  I remember when the conspiracy sub was interesting.   It was then co-opted for this purpose. >
  
  wake me when the indictments come down >
  
  Gotta love the “nothings gonna happen” comments in every single one of these threads. Just maybe shut the fuck up about it already, nobody cares about your defeatist bullshit. >
  
  It's pretty hard to be positive at this juncture. I've gone back and forth so many times on whether I think he will be held accountable. I can only conclude at this point I have no idea. We all know he won't be held accountable for all his crimes though, that's for sure. >
  
  This is really something that can only be known with time. We just haven't had anything like this happen before and it couldn't happen to a worse person, who through every stage of his entire presidency should not have gotten away with any of these major scandals, and shouldn't have even been elected in the first place. Yet here we all are. >
  
  It's pretty amazing when you look back at history and see the myriad of much lesser evils that brought down candidates and elected officials. It's really true we haven't seen someone get away with so much for so long before, at least not that I can think of anyway. >
  
  Usually the crimes that the rich and powerful get away with aren't committed so brazenly in public, nor are they so openly admitted to. I don't know anyone who could be found with literal boxes of top secret information and highly classified documents and say "Yeah I had 'em" and yet still walk free.
  In 2016 election Donald Trump literally campaigned on Hillary's e-mails and chants of "lock her up" at his rallies. >
  
  You are correct in the backstory behind it was that it was a Paul Manafort idea Since he first tested this in Ukraine then 2016 for Trump. >
  
  But for that sack of shit Alan Friedman, the world would be a much safer place and hundreds of thousands of Americans would not have died due to a kleptogarchic administration.   
  We all know Manafort, Gates and Stone belong gagged in a dungeon but there are so many more agents of wrong needing infamy. >
  
  Means sweet fuck all ... if he doesn't get charged for it. >
  
  Thanks for stating the blindingly obvious.  Now do something about it. >
  
  The optimist in me wants to believe they’re trying to connect the dots to bring RICO into the equation. >
  
  So ah…when can we get this shit rolling?
  If trump needs a ride to court let me know.  I’ll have to schedule some time off from work but I’ll make myself available. >
  
  So what? The American justice system won’t do a damn thing. >
  
  Send that shit-ass away once and for all. >
  
  Is he in chains? No?
  Wake me up when he is in chains.