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  That was a mistake comment meant for another poster. See my edits
context: i personally would rather not be a father and stay with my current girlfriend (soon to be wife) then start all over and hope everything works out.
  
  I'm not sure what view you want changed here. You, personally, are willing to forego children to stay in a relationship. Many people are not. They want children and feel their lives will be incomplete without them.
  Those people should probably break up.
  That's not your priority. Ok? >
  
  The view I want to debate on and be challenged on is that it isn't wise to break up with someone solely due having differences in the kids vs no kids debate.   
  My question to your response is what are the reasons one might feel "incomplete" without having a kid? The main ones I can think of are societal pressure (everyone else is having babies and my parents want grand children) and values from how you were raised (was always taught that having kids was a must do in life and its shameful not to have them).  
  I understand that parenthood can be very fulfilling. Afterall, my parents and I have a great relationship. I'm just of the opinion that if you love your partner very strongly and they don't want kids, you're taking a massive gamble by breaking it off and could very well not find another ideal partner. Basically, I'd rather live in a very good, but not perfect house rather than blow up the foundation and hope i find the perfect home one day. >
  
  Except you are viewing the relationship as independent of children.
  For some people, what they want is to raise children with the specific person they are dating.  The two are inseparable goals.  Rephrased, some people view having a family as the ultimate manifestation of their love for their spouse (or significant other).  It would be hard for that person to say, “I’m okay with love, but not with the deepest form of love for me.” >
  
  yes i am and I think that is important. Relationships serve an important purpose beyond procreation.   
  However I fully understand this perspective about a family being a very pure form of love. I also think if it's truly a deal breaker, you should not string along the other partner >
  
  So your telling me only religious people want kids lol is it that hard to understand some people want kids and aren't willing to take no for an answer