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  I'd be up for giving every sovereign nation within US borders a member with voting rights as well as every US territory that hasn't become a state, yet. 
  The house of representatives is our house of Commons. It should represent all of us.
context: Not if republicans have anything to say about it >
  
  They have a lot to say about it - they control the House and vote in lockstep >
  
  Did you read the article? They're not likely to vote in lockstep. >
  
  Have you seen their actions? >
  
  I can't read the minds of every member of congress, no. But if a republican member from Oklahoma who is also a member of the Chickasaw nation says they're interested, that seems like if anyone is going to vote for this, it'd be them. >
  
  So 1 out of 215 >
  
  Oh my god. Lockstep. That was the claim. Lockstep. Lockstep means unanimous. If one Republican breaks from the group it's no longer lockstep. 
  And anyways democrats and republicans have had literally centuries to sign this; blaming only Republicans is like blaming only Biden for the debt. (Not that I really care about the debt) >
  
  It's almost like words don't have meanigs to some people. >
  
  So fucking frustrating. Watch the person never reply again too. Watch them do it again too. Reminds me of the most annoying kids in middle school that would stop talking to you mid conversation because they realized they were gonna look stupid. >
  
  If you want to get the dictionary out sure you're right. But for the most part they vote lockstep in everything and 1 out of 215 is pretty damn close. Saying "tHiS iSnT lOcKsTeP" just makes you look like an ass. And your comment here proves that. >
  
  Narrator: Under no circumstances will Republicans allow this. >
  
  My understanding is this is a non-voting seat. Republicans can take the W on this with no cost to their majority. >
  
  Even at no cost I doubt they’ll support giving a minority a voice. They’ll find some bullshit reason to justify it. >
  
  "It's not what the founding fathers would have wanted." >
  
  Honestly, the only time they may be right when they say that… >
  
  And maybe we should stop taking our ethical cues from people who died 250 years ago? Regardless of who they were at the time, either Founder or slave-owner, the world has moved well past them. >
  
  A separate article on this was posted yesterday on the IndianCountry subreddit.  The above link goes to the native people's comments there. >
  
  I see this ending up at the supreme court where they will rule that lying to natives is historically part of our culture... >
  
  Citing the landmark case of finders, keepers v losers, weepers >
  
  How will Republicans not make this happen? >
  
  1) say no
  2) if anyone challenges them, see step 1 >
  
  3) Say Yes and make it a non voting seat. >
  
  If they say yes it will piss off their base…won’t happen >
  
  If they haven’t been given the right in 188 years then allow them to add 188 lawmakers for the next year to makeup for it. >
  
  I think I'd settle for 18 for each of the next 10 years >
  
  Andrew Jackson: I'm altering the deal. >
  
  An ancestor, William Wirt, argued the cherokee case before the supreme court.  He won the case.  Andrew jackson chose to ignore the court.  Hence Trail of Tears.  A seat in congress is a start.  Like virgin islands.  You sit on committee but dont vote on the floor. >
  
  Andrew Jackson used to be the most disgusting President. >
  
  About damn time wtf. American Indians have a badass and rich history. They need some representation! >
  
  This is for a non-voting seat, like Puerto Rico >
  
  so like the first pitch of a baseball game >
  
  The main issue is that it's not really clear which Cherokee group should be the one to decide who is sent to Congress. And we can't just do something like giving the multiple different groups each their own delegate - or at least, that would probably require changing the treaty by law or something, which we likely wouldn't see with the GOP in control in the house and being able to filibuster in the Senate >
  
  Teehee is already nominated by the Cherokee Nation >
  
  But that's not the only group of Cherokees. There's also the "United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians", and the "Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians". There's three different Cherokee tribes. 
  There may be some confusion with the name Cherokee Nation here. The Treaty of New Echota was made between the US government and "the Cherokee Nation". But that was the united Cherokee Nation which was abolished as an entity by the government around 1900. The modern "Cherokee Nation" is a later institutional creation which does not consist of all Cherokees or even all Cherokee tribal institutions (hence the United Keetoowah Band and the Eastern Band existing as their own separate things). Since New Echota was between the US and the Cherokee in general as a united people, it doesn't necessarily legally make sense to assume that the modern creation of the Cherokee Nation inherits the seat as opposed to the broader Cherokee people in general which would be inclusive of the other two tribes too >
  
  Maybe the seat can be rotational on fixed times....I mean does the treaty say how the representative has to be chosen? So it is probably up to the Cherokee how to fill it...of course can be complicated... >
  
  Unfortunately for the Cherokee, after they sided with the Confederacy during the Civil War, they were made to sign a new treaty.
  Seeing as that new treaty makes no mention of congressional representation (voting or non-voting), I don't think they'll have much of a case. >
  
  
  
  ARTICLE 1.  Pretended treaty declared void.
  
  
  The pretended treaty made with the so-called Confederate States by the Cherokee Nation on the seventh day of October, eighteen hundred and sixty-one, and repudiated by the national council of the Cherokee Nation on the eighteenth day of February, eighteen hundred and sixty-three, is hereby declared to be void.
  
  
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  Was teh earlier treat with the USA declared void at some point?
  This new treaty DOES say:
  
  PREAMBLE.*
  
  Whereas existing treaties between the United States and the Cherokee Nation are deemed to be insufficient, the said contracting parties agree as follows, viz:
  Does this mean that all previous treaties are void as well?
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  [as an aside, has anyone else noted that new reddit doesn't handle the formatting via markdown that old reddit does?] >
  
  It's about time. Then hopefully some of the other recognized nations can get some representation >
  
  Hopefully not just some Italian guy pretending to be Indian. >
  
  The Italians just want to wet their beak with a little taste of that casino money. >
  
  Why wasn’t this brought up last term? It’s…been a while. >
  
  Serious question here, are the Cherokee, Americans? >
  
  Born and raised in the land of this country so yes >
  
  The Cherokee nation is a country, protected by the govt of the USA >
  
  I think it would make sense for sovereign native tribes to elect voting representatives and senators based on population with a minimum of one each for participation in our bicameral legislature. >
  
  GOP controls the House (THANKS AMERICA) so not going to happen in the next 2 years at the very least.
  The Cherokee Nation should have proposed this a few years earlier. >
  
  If it happened in 2 years, even with Democrats controlling Congress, that would still be pretty fast. May as well lay groundwork now so it can hit the ground running when sympathetic politicians retake the reins. >
  
  This needs to happen. Our government severely fucked over native people, breaking treaty after treaty. >
  
  And what, have the US uphold one of its treaties? Lol, Snarf-guffaw. >
  
  This is the least they deserve. And to be honest, I had to reprogram myself as I was raised with racist ideals about native Americans. (My grandma, bless her racist soul, raised me 50% of the time and lived by low income housing). It's been a struggle to set my subconscious thoughts right and I'm almost positive there's still some ingrained racism in me. Having a representative in congress would be amazing for everyone . >
  
  I thought they were separate from the United States of America though? If they're not then their representation is vastly overdue. >
  
  Treaties should be honored or else others will be less likely to make deals with us. If congress agreed to it then give them a seat. >
  
  
  Treaties should be honored or else others will be less likely to make deals with us. 
  
  We haven't honored the treaty with Native Americans for over a 100 years. That hasn't affect us in any way, as it? >
  
  You are correct. No one cares how Americans treated their indigenous peoples. 
  That doesn't justify what is has happened in regards to this topic but you are correct that no one is going to not trust the states because of it. >
  
  That’s a weird take given all the treaties the US has signed and honored with other countries since forever. We generally only fucked over the Indians. >
  
  The US copied its Democracy from the Iroquois Nation.
  Just putting it out there >
  
  Do they even get the courtesy of non-voting seats now, like some of our territories? >
  
  It says in the article that this would be a non-voting seat >
  
  Other Tribes signed it,not one tribe signed willingly. Murder, torture, rape, forced to leave their land. I say give the USA (fake name) back to the tribes. This is all USA blackmail, cloak and dagger illegal activities. Trial of tears for a reason. It’s all Indian land in Gods eyes. Period. Bronco Rothschild the illegitimate bastard son of the Rothschild Family. >
  
  Isn’t that the same logic that the Jews used to steal the land from the Palestinians? >
  
  The Jewish people, (nots Jews woke agent, show respect) came to the good land (now Israel), approximately 1,000 years before Muhammad was born. I do not hate Muhammad or those who love him. Israel should be shared and is. Racist war monger haters like you with small 1 + 1 = 3 pea brains are not welcome. Your out of your league children of Lucifer. Hahaha. Hail Satan who has zero power which you prove whenever you speak airhead. >
  
  Any chance of a refund on those English lessons? >
  
  It is unfortunate that a nation of people must wait for so long before commitments that were made with good intentions are fulfilled. and the present is the only time that matters. >
  
  You mean, actual americans? >
  
  Definitely not "americans". How insultingly euro-centric. >
  
  Unlikely to happen, and if it does it will be a non-voting seat. >
  
  The international community needs to do something about this >
  
  Funny enough, Gorsuch would go for this. >
  
  Republicans in general and DeSantis in particular will just scream CRT and deny any such promise was ever made. 
  They will then rewrite history to prove that the 'pale faces' were just inviting the indigenous population to join a democratic and equal society where each acre of land was valued at one green bead and to imply anything else is merely an attempt to ensure white school kids feel guilty. >
  
  After which DeSantis would have that third after-dinner pie. >
  
  That is beyond sad for any Native American Tribe not represented in Congress! It’s time for sharing and caring for ALL our Native American brothers and sisters to REALLY HAPPEN BY HAVING A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS! Shame shame on America for taking so dang long to make this happen!! DO THIS NOW!!