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  It’s an off leash trail, and the couples dog was also unleashed. The dogs were not the cause of the attack this was just a senseless assault
context: Really looking forward to these two being identified and put in jail. >
  
  I like how they are as of yet unidentified yet they blur their faces in the video >
  
  Yeah, I don’t get the logic there. >
  
  Maybe the editors on the site are being overly cautious about being accused of 'doxxing'. Though I'd say that this couple should be named and shamed. As it stands, if authorities decide to press charges, their days of anonymity are likely numbered. As might be their 'employed' status at wherever they are currently employed. >
  
  It's Global News, one of Canada's biggest broadcasters.  There is zero legal problem with showing their faces without blurring. >
  
  There are legal concerns with the public coming to the wrong conclusions though. >
  
  No, there absolutely are not. >
  
  Goddamn that was a brutal read. I feel so awful for the victim. >
  
  I totally agree. No way in fuck should that man have put his hands on her. But as an amateur hiker, people who walk their dogs off leash on trail when they see other people are at worst kinda inconsiderate. Like I’m not even saying it’s not fine do to so, but when I do it, my eyes are always way ahead on the trail so I can leash my dogs up as soon as I see someone. 
  Lots of people are afraid of dogs, even dog owners, lots of leashed dogs aren’t friendly even if yours are. With 5 dogs, no way she would’ve had time to leash them. 
  I’ve had to stand off with people’s dogs who don’t listen to them and come charging at us. I’ve had to tell people off for that shit. Shit’s scary, stressful and being in the middle of the woods makes shit scarier. Always carry my OC spray and walking stick for shit like this. For dogs and aggressive dirt bags. >
  
  His dogs were also off leash though. The leash is literally hanging around his neck in the video, so that can’t be the “justification” for this >
  
  This, since he was also doing what he complained she was doing and after seeing the victim (who appears to be Indian?) I think it’s a racist incident masquerading as a dispute about dogs. Hope they find that guy and charge him. >
  
  Hope they’re ID’d quickly.  Degenerates. >
  
  Their faces are right there in the video, so... >
  
  Yeah, but why did they blur them? If the cops are still looking, wouldn't they want to show their faces? >
  
  Remember when Reddit "found" the Boston Bomber? >
  
  Did you miss the sequel when Reddit ‘found’ the /r/moscowmurders killer? >
  
  That sub is a complete joke. Just a bunch of tragedy chasers with a victim complex and some sick sympathy fetish. >
  
  This attack has nothing to do with dogs. It was about someone looking for any excuse to do violence against another person. >
  
  Definitely, if it wasn’t the dogs it would’ve been something else. If it wasn’t her it wasn’t her it would’ve been someone else. >
  
  My money is on a white conservative borderline nazi couple and this being a thinly veiled hate crime since the victim looks Indian. >
  
  I think that as well >
  
  Alright I'll say it, some people just straight up shouldn't exist >
  
  Too many assholes, not enough consequences. >
  
  100% 
  You can get away with an enormous amount of petty borderline serious crimes. You start to wonder what it is that police actually do. Someone steals your ID and heads to a local bank to steal your money from a bank. They take a report. Someone breaks into your car and steals some shit, they file a report. 
  The number of horror stories I've read about women being stalked and harassed on Reddit and the complete lack of fucks given by police. It's sad.
  My best guess, they only go after serious crimes, and ones they can make $$$ off of. >
  
  In the us the supreme courts decided police don’t have to help you. 
  The US Supreme Court has made it clear that law enforcement agencies are not required to provide protection to the citizens who are forced to pay the police for their "services."
  In the cases DeShaney vs. Winnebago and Town of Castle Rock vs. Gonzales, the supreme court has ruled that police agencies are not obligated to provide protection of citizens. In other words, police are well within their rights to pick and choose when to intervene to protect the lives and property of others — even when a threat is apparent.
  In both of these court cases, clear and repeated threats were made against the safety of children — but government agencies chose to take no action.. >
  
  On the flip side, I’m not sure I’d want police to be legally compelled to address every single crime they observe. 
  Car driving 1mph over the speed limit. Car not signaling a left turn while being in a left turn lane. Person waiting(loitering) outside a gas station for their Uber to show up. Drunk guy in public outside a bar being helped into a taxi by his friends.
  Granted, it would be nice to have them be legally compelled to help someone who needs and wants their help. >
  
  Somehow you took someone talking about cops not having a duty to protect you from criminals as a reason to bring up petty civil infractions like they’re somehow equivalent. >
  
  They talk about assault charges but that second round sounded more like attempted murder to me. When she said she'd call the police, herealised his mistake and tried at a draconian solution to avoiding the consequences. >
  
  100%. At a minimum this dude needs about 20 years behind bars to think about this one. Honestly, once you commit violence like this, you really don't ever need to be let out. >
  
  If you click on the links you'll understand why both these cases got lower than expected sentences and it's not because "this is Canada".
  In the first case the defenant took a plea deal in exchange for testimony against her partner, and video evidence showing the extent of her involvement had not been reviewed yet.
  In the second the perpetrator was a person with severe schizophrenia who was not medicated who had a very severe psychotic break. In court he was found to not be criminally responsible for his actions (insanity defence). >
  
  So he went to a facility for mentally ill people after he was released… right?
  Right? >
  
  He received treatment at a mental facility before being released. >
  
  Great! Now what's stopping him from stopping his medication and killing again? >
  
  How about we let the psychiatrists that treated him determine if he's likely to reoffend?
  I'm Canada, when someone who is found to be not criminally liable has been treated, and medical professionals determine they aren't likely to reoffend, we don't lock them up indefinitely. >
  
  Hope that guy goes to prison for a long long time. Don't care if he was off his meds. >
  
  Most times Canada lets “mentally ill” rapists and killers back into the community. Not a chance this guy would get more than a petty fine >
  
  “I’m scared to look at people in case they’re having a bad day”
  I think a lot of us completely feel that fear these days. >
  
  I just realized a layer of my own personal issues now. I always avoid looking at anyone unless they are talking to me. It's just instinct that if I do, I will be confronted. Wow. That's sad.. >
  
  Hmm.. have you ever lived in NYC? This is part of how you give people space in tight quarters. >
  
  
  And so as I approached, the woman said something to me and I said, ‘oh, pardon?’ And she immediately said, ‘don’t ignore me b---h. Don’t ignore me b---h. You heard me put your f---ing dogs on a leash’. And I said, ‘I really didn’t hear you’. And I was standing there like this going, ‘I’m really sorry. I actually didn’t hear you.'
  
  Reminds me of my time in retail where we were required to greet customers when they walked in. I hated doing it because 90% of the time, they genuinely do not hear you because they are in their own heads when walking into a shop. Not a dig at anyone, I'm sure I've done the same thing many times. 
  A guy walks in, I greet him, no response. Then he walks up to me and demands to know why I didn't greet him. I said I did. He says I didn't. I say maybe I was too quiet. Lucky for me, he wasn't too angry and just ordered what he wanted, but that's one of those situations where people just take shit personally. I think he genuinely believed that I decided not to greet him for whatever reason. But even if I didn't greet him, maybe I missed him coming in or maybe I was too busy thinking of what I wanted for lunch. People just get so crazy over stupid shit! >
  
  When I was younger,  I worked retail.  The first thing they taught us was to say good morning,  or “how’s it going today” instead of “can I help you”.  
  A lot of people responded with “no thank you” or “I’m good” as a response because of being conditioned to the usual “can I help you” questions from salespeople.  It would really throw people off their game and made for a great conversation starter. >
  
  In this case it was a simple, "Welcome!" Management didn't expect us to actually start conversations with people just walking in. I didn't expect anything but a nod or a smile or maybe a thanks. 
  We did have a specific greeting for walking up to a customers out on the floor. In our case it was, "What are you celebrating?" We had a whole list of open-ended questions we were supposed to ask and we were quizzed on proper responses as well. 
  "Where is the party being held?"
  "Did you have a theme in mind?" 
  "How old are they turning?" 
  "What characters do they like?"
  Things like that. >
  
  Jesus Christ people; I live in North Van; many many trails allow dogs off leash! Some don’t, some do, stop blaming her without knowing. She is the victim, ffs >
  
  And the attackers also had their dog(s) off leash! >
  
  And they were all being good boys! Both sets of dogs! They got a little freaked out by the commotion but they weren’t bothering each other at all >
  
  Those dogs really should train their humans to not be so reactive off leash when walking near other humans >
  
  Sorry my human is poorly socialized >
  
  The lady had 2 poodles and a psycho human male off leash. >
  
  The lady was equally psycho, according to the full account of her participation in the attack given in the article. >
  
  Anyone else feel like she’s lucky they didn’t kill her? These two really need to be found before they kill the next person. >
  
  Those dogs are usually 100+ lbs. I think she would be dead if they hadn’t been with her and she hadn’t screamed. >
  
  We’re “potentially looking at an assault charge”?? I don’t understand why “potential” is necessary, if this person is not charged with assault at the very minimum I will lose faith in humanity >
  
  Canadian cops "media training" commit to nothing, be as vague as possible >
  
  Be as sorry as possible? >
  
  i hope they find these scumbags. how does it even occur to anyone to do this, u have to be genuinely stupid >
  
  Why are people like this blurred on news outlets? >
  
  So they can't get sued for "Defamation" would be my guess. >
  
  Probably also so guys who look similar to the suspect don't get harassed and assaulted by vigilantes who think they found the right dude.  Just my guess. >
  
  How often does that happen after police release photos of suspects? >
  
  Often enough. Reddit has ruined a couple of lives that way. Boston bomber i remember off the top of my head. >
  
  Uhh that isn't the police releasing photos that was people speculating on who did it by watching a bunch of footage.
  Dhokar Tsarnev or whatever wasnt shot by some random after his face was revealed... at all. >
  
  This guy definitely has a history of physically abusing women. >
  
  For sure, you don’t escalate to this level with a stranger the first time you decide to have a physical altercation. >
  
  The wife knew to hold him back because she's seen it before. >
  
  
  North Vancouver RCMP said they are investigating and speaking to witnesses to identify the suspect.
  Const. Mansoor Sahak said these incidents are rare.
  “We’re potentially looking at an assault charge,” he said. “My understanding is the victim, in this case, was punched, pushed down and further kicked and punched.”
  
  Are they fucking kidding? Potentially an assault charge?!?!??? There needs to be an attempted murder charge here.
  Or even better, just find this dude who pummeled this innocent woman, and place a gun on the back of his head, and just shoot one bullet through it. >
  
  People are insane. I carry mace and a knife when I walk my dog and I'm a 170lb dude - just can't be too cautious. I can't fathom what absolute scumbags these people are to bully and attack a woman. >
  
  I do the same except to protect myself from big dogs who are horribly trained by shit owners. After getting attacked once while running is enough. Stupid irresponsible big dog owners. >
  
  My spray is for dogs too. But I’ll use it on a person if I have too. I don’t need a vet bill for my dog or a Dr bill for me bc some idiot wants me to believe “it’s ok they’re friendly!!” >
  
  I really hope this went on Twitter cause as bad as Twitter is they are better then the police at identifying people and their entire lives. I hope they are found immediately, charged and thrown in jail for a while. Destroy their whole life >
  
  Just need some that recognizes the coats >
  
  Odd that the global news twitter feed posted  this but blurred them on their site. >
  
  Nice! I assumed it was an old bugger. I hope his Mom sees this and turns his ass in for extra sting. And f you hat bitch. Losers. >
  
  But his dogs were off leash too. >
  
  Can’t wait to get a follow up on this >
  
  Can’t wait for these lowlife pieces of human trash to be identified and thrown in the bin. >
  
  To the people focusing on the unleashed dogs.
  An assault was committed. Get your priorities straight. Goddamn >
  
  Fucking degens from upcountry most likely. >
  
  Fucking degens are the worst. Better call the Ginger....and Boots. >
  
  Didn’t they fuck an ostrich? >
  
  A sick ostrich >
  
  I always carry pepper spray on my hikes. It is not for bears but rather for 2 legged idiots that want to hurt me. >
  
  I didn't know global news blurs the faces of people who commit violent assaults on people now. Poor them for just indiscriminately abusing that lady how could we live with ourselves if criminals were identified >
  
  Lemme get this straight: man with dogs off leash assaults woman for having dogs off leash? >
  
  North Van eh? Someone please find these people. Rich assholes need to be taught their manners any chance it is possible. >
  
  WTF? People are so psycho! Hope that couple gets arrested as well as publicly shamed. >
  
  ah yes, let's censor the unknown assailant's face so people can help identify him. >
  
  Wtf people. I think we all need to remember that the main point here is that this woman was physically assaulted twice by a man  who was clearly much bigger and stronger than her. That's the issue . It's unacceptable and unjustified. Period. >
  
  Seriously. The damn dogs have nothing to do with it. >
  
  Bet money he beats his wife too >
  
  People are just getting too emboldened to put their hands/ attack others violently on other people. In Des Moines Iowa a man had his eyes gouged out by another man using his thumbs to press into the others eyes. The attack was over a mask dispute. >
  
  That guys lucky he didn’t get mauled by all those dogs beating on their owner like that… >
  
  To paraphrase a self-defense YouTuber, "Your family dogs are not trained protectors, don't ever expect them to do anything to save you." >
  
  That’s good advice. I wouldn’t expect it but they do feed off of energy, especially aggression. One of my dog’s favorite people is my father in law and she ripped him up pretty good one night for coming in the back yard in a noticeably angry mood. Luckily she realized it was him before she got into his flesh but his jeans looked like he survived a bear attack lol >
  
  Sure, some do. I was once attacked by a dog I knew because I was play-fighting with its human and he went down on the floor in a defensive posture while I was above him and the dog went bananas and jumped on me. 
  But watch some people get attacked on video via surveillance footage as their dogs happily watch and you'll realize that it's foolish to think your family pet is a protector. That's why I trained in open-handed defensive skills. >
  
  How does it make sense for two violent and angry people to be out enjoying a nice hike. People are so weird. I'm glad that lady is okay, it coulda been a lot worse. Can't wait to see them arrested. Oh the enjoyment. >
  
  Cross post on r/NorthVancouver and let internet justice do its thing. Our justice system will give him a slap on the wrist. >
  
  Why are the faces blurred?? >
  
  So people that look similar to them don't get misidentified and harassed or assaulted by people riled up by this attack. >
  
  That's such a load of BS. Police release sketches of suspects constantly, and there aren't mobs in the street going around harassing people who look similar. >
  
  People seem to forget that these people, whose dogs were also off leash, told this woman to “leash her fucking dogs”.. hypocrisy at its finest. >
  
  So they are already on camera, it should be easy to catch them I hope. >
  
  What the actual fuck is wrong with some people? >
  
  I hope these people  spend time in Jail for this >
  
  Eventually someone is going to identify them and be waiting on the trail with a baseball bat >
  
  And this is why the faces are blurred in the video. Everyone asking - here is your answer. >
  
  Fucking pieces of shit. Hope they both rot. Poor lady, hope she's getting good support. >
  
  If they’re bold enough to do this on camera, they’re bold enough to probably have done it before, and do it again. >
  
  It’s events like these that make it uncomfortable for me to take my dog off leash. I was in a scenario similar to this after seeing many videos like this one Even though my dog was on leash at the time. It was all on camera and the cops to this day despite many attempts from me won’t do anything about it. The other dog was unlicensed unvaccinated has bite history and completely Offleash and came out of the woods charging and bit her unprovoked all on camera. The police won’t do a damn thing and it is so sad. The dog crossed that neighbors property line and came on my property and almost into my actual house. I almost killed the dog attacking my own is the only reason I guess they ignore my pleas to press charges. It definitely struggles as a result to this day and I feel terrible for the dog but my own dog was seriously injured and only mostly recovered
  Edit: the prior bite history for the attacking dog was filed by a shelter that let them foster a Saint Bernard. It killed it while they left them both unattended in their living room >
  
  This happens. You can't control how other people train/don't train their dogs. You can carry a heavy walking stick. And use it. Happened to my dad just last winter. His little dog was on leash, the monster that went after it jumped its fence. Tore his dog up a bit, but he managed to see the big dog off before it killed her. >
  
  I bought my first gun (had one previously but sold it) after the incident. It took a lot of time to get it but it’s with me everytime I take her out now >
  
  Walking my dog is literally the only time I carry a gun >
  
  Same honestly >
  
  Why do SO many people think this is acceptable human behaviour now. Goddamn degenerates. >
  
  lack of consequences for their actions >
  
  Normally if I’m on a trail, I’ll always carry a knife with me, bc nature is fucking scary. 
  But this is a constant reminder, that people are too.
  Poor lady. >
  
  This sounds like attempted murder.  What would’ve happened if someone wasn’t close by?
  You should always carry a knife on you when walking in the woods >
  
  I hope they find the couple. >
  
  Fuck these assholes.  If they had done that to me, they’d be finding lead between their eyes. >
  
  Here's clear video of exactly who this fucker is, "working with with witnesses to identify" >
  
  That man was a piece of shit and needs to suffer consequences for his actions.  I hope they find him and press charges against him and his wife. >
  
  They should all have their dogs leashed >
  
  I cannot imagine hitting a woman. What a fucking scumbag. How does the Canadian justice system handle an assault like this? >
  
  We make them drink maple syrup until the sugar hardens in their veins and petrifies them. Then we put them on display in front of parliament before grinding them up and adding them to dog food for our dog sled teams which gives them super powers; so it’s a nice complete circle for this guy when he gets caught. >
  
  as is tradition >
  
  Why are they blurring the attackers faces? >
  
  To avoid reddit detectives from falsely accusing a similar looking but innocent couple >
  
  Why block out their miserable fucking faces? >
  
  Exactly. Why not show them so perhaps someone can identify them???? >
  
  Honestly, this is just a hop, skip, and a jump from the typical behaviour of an entitled North Vancouver resident. >
  
  That was so horrible and senseless to read and see. I grew up hiking and biking local trails and the only reason my mom insisted I take pepper spray with me was because she was worried about an animal potentially coming after me, not the chance I'd get attacked by angry, crazy people on the trail. 
  It's sad that now people trying to enjoy nature need to carry pepper spray or a gun to be safe from people instead of dogs or bears. Also this is the reason I encouraged all my younger, female cousins to take a self defense course meant to teach women how to defend themselves from bigger male attackers, which did save one of my cousins from a guy in college. I'm happy to say she kicked his ass. >
  
  I’m shocked the dogs didn’t ambush this piece of shit. My dog is a whopping 18 lbs and would have been on him like white on rice >
  
  Not their dogs, just their walker so maybe they didn’t react as fiercely as if their owners were in danger. >
  
  That’s why I don’t walk alone in the woods. Too bad she didn’t have a trained k9 to take them down >
  
  Why did they censor that fuckers face. I walk those trails. Hope I see that jacket. >
  
  Their poodles were off leash and poodles are in the Top5 for biting. >
  
  I wish I had been there and I’m glad she’s ok. >
  
  Curious to know why the faces of these ass~~hole~~ailants were blurred. It’s a public space so privacy isn’t warranted. >
  
  Canada has really strict laws around crime on television. Decades ago they couldn't even name or show you the pictures of people on trial for being serial killers.
  Most Canadian news is like American news was in the '50s and '60s. It's very sensitized and not sensationalized. In America we would say this is a freedom of the press issue, but Canada doesn't have that freedom. The plus side is that the whole country doesn't live in fear of random crime. They don't all have to go out and buy guns to protect themselves from the endless stream of bullshit that's on our nightly news. >
  
  Fuckin A based on the bruises she for sure got beat down :( >
  
  I'm glad they're "potentially looking at assault charges." >
  
  Appears to be a common thing in that area. Here is copy/paste of another story (from that same media source):
  Dog walker assaulted
  On Saturday night, officers responded to an altercation in the area of Stewart and McDonnel streets.
  Police say a verbal argument first broke out between the victim and a neighbour while both were walking their dogs. During the argument, a woman approached the pair and shoved the victim to the ground.
  The victim did not require medical attention, police said.
  A 36-year-old Peterborough woman was arrested and charged with assault.
  She was released on an undertaking and is scheduled to appear in court on Sept. 1. >
  
  Huh? They’re not even close… that’s in a different province. >
  
  If your dogs are off-leash on an off-leash trail and are behaving, then I don’t see the problem. She was travelling with a small pack. I’m surprised none of them tried to protect her. I guess because she was their walker, not their person. >
  
  My one dog would have ripped him apart.  He’s amazingly loving but a very protective dog. >
  
  Canadians are the nicest people… >
  
  Pretty unfriendly actually. But it's the way they're unfriendly. Like they're doing me a favor. >
  
  I like to see that POS act so tough walking into his jail cell. Feel tough do ya big guy! >
  
  As soon as pet owners are criminally liable for the actions of their pets, as if the owners had committed those acts themselves, you can have any leash law you want.  
  "But I can't control my pet's behavior all the time."   
  Exactly. >
  
  So why have off leash trails at all. The point of an off leash trail, I would guess, is you can have them off leash. If you don't want to encounter off leashed dogs, go to a leash only trail. If I were afraid of strange, unleashed dogs, I wouldn't go to one of the only places I'm almost sure to encounter them. ESPECIALLY when I can go to a leash only trail. These people are garbage and also had an unleashed dog. >
  
  Savage Canadian couple on the prowl. >
  
  Lucky for him she only had Labradors, I don’t think my two cane corsos would have reacted the same to someone attacking my wife. >
  
  All of the dogs should be on a leash, especially if that asshole is walking 5 of them. As a dog walker I can't count how many times some shithead has had their dog off and I needed to pry it off the dog I'm walking while the moron stands there and goes "oh it's fine, they're friendly". No it's not fucking fine, how does that moron know that the dog I'm walking isn't going to tear it a new asshole. How do I know that their "good dog" actually isn't a good dog, and now the dog I'm walking is messed up because it just got attacked by a "good dog".