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  They hate Obama care dummy, not risk pool subsidized health insurance.
context: It never stops half of them from using the benefits that they speak out against. It's gross really. >
  
  They like when they get stuff without having to pay too much for it, but the idea that someone else gets access to it as well pisses them off. Its just selfishness to their core and the belief if other people use something they will eventually not have access to it or will get less. >
  
  I agree completely!! >
  
  They hate Obamacare, they love the Affordable Care Act. >
  
  Trust me, it’s just surprising how many people have vocalized how much they hate Obamacare and how it costs them so much, but that they are thankful for the Affordable Care Act. >
  
  The entire state had to choose between health care or homeowners insurance this year...they can't afford both. MAGA House today working on a resolution paving the way to eliminate Social Security and Medicare as "socialist". >
  
  Probably much easier to join up for Obamacare than it is to vote >
  
  51% to 48% in the 2020 election. I really think we shouldn’t give them the title of “red state”. These assholes win by tiny margins and grab the state governments by gerrymandering and encouraging voter indifference and then have the nerve to claim it as a mandate. >
  
  Redditors think every Californian is a diehard progressive and everyone in the south is a racist redneck. Having lived in a few red and purple states I always found that frustrating as hell. “Cut them off, they made their choice” like bro I only get to vote one time, same as everyone. >
  
  No they didn't! They signed up for Affordable care act. Obamacare is socialism /s >
  
  Health care for those that need it shouldn't be a political argument for a wealthy nation. In fact, most studies agree that a government supported health system would save both individual and government spending on health care overall. Those that argue against government supported health care are likely pursuing personal financial gain opposed to what is best for the populace they have sworn to serve. >
  
  
  Health care for those that need it shouldn't be a political argument for a wealthy nation.
  those that need it
  
  That's everyone.
  The next hurdle will be getting rid of the profit-taking middlemen who add nothing but complexity, friction, and expense. >
  
  99% of our problems relate to profit taking middlemen
  Military industrial complex
  Student loan brokers
  Pharma
  Insurance
  Etc >
  
  PBMs. Pharmacy Benefit Managers. Not so much the insurance. >
  
  Insurance is the middle man. >
  
  PBMs are arguably far worse and have even gotten banned in several states. They only serve to "negotiate" drug contract prices between pharmacies and the insurance. When you call you plan for medications you typically don't get the insurance. You get the PBM which defines the coverage and only services to siphon off money and limit benefits. 
  Don't get me wrong. Insurance is a middle man but the real profiteer in pharma over the last several decades is the rise of PBMs. It's not talked about in really any conversation about drug prices but it is a central figure in the decline of pharmacy work conditions due to underpayment to pharmacies and the managed inflation of pharmaceutical care. >
  
  The legacy of conservatism is greed. >
  
  That’s not surprising for two reasons. 
  
  
  When Obama Care was first rolled out, health insurance was required at the federal level. And wasn’t there a tax penalty for not having adequate coverage?
  
  
  Florida is a swing state, more purple than red. Like 52/48 red/blue. >
  
  Yes they got rid of the tax penalty. I just dumped my aca approved plan (signed up for $500 / month and it has gone up to $790 despite never using it once) in favor of a wayyy cheaper plan. Nobody seems to be able to tell me why I should go with an aca approved plan? I’d like to know if anyone knows >
  
  If you show what the plan you purchased is, I'm sure I can tell you why it's so much cheaper.  
  In my experience with college interns that buy some of these plans, they fall into two categories.  The first is indemnity type plans similar to AFLAC that pay you a certain amount when you have an issue.  They are advertised in such a way that makes you think it's your cost for a service.  It'll read something like $25 for PCP visit or $100 for emergency room visit.  Well, that's the amount the plan will pay you.  You're responsible for the rest of the actual bill.  So, if the PCP charges $100, you end up paying $75.  If the ER costs $3000, you end up paying $2900.  
  The second type of plan is a short term plan.  These types of plans have pre-existing condition clauses.  And you may say, "Well, I don't have pre-existing conditions."  But, what you need to realize is that they are short term plans.  You enroll in them every year.  Anything that occurred in the previous year is now considered a pre-existing condition and is no longer covered.  So, say you get diagnosed as a diabetic and need insulin in 2023.  The plan will pay for insulin in 2023.  When you enroll in the plan for 2024, the diabetes diagnosis is now considered a pre-existing condition and insulin is no longer covered.  For other serious illnesses (and even things like diabetes), they can deny coverage by just stating that the condition must have been a pre-existing condition because it could not have developed within the short amount of time the plan was in place.  ACA plans, must cover pre-existing conditions no matter when they occur and continue coverage for pre-existing conditions rather than start over at renewal. >
  
  Millions are forced out of the labor market before Medicare kicks in.   Obamacare is so important now it’s amazing to believe we did not have it before. >
  
  Republicans in West Virginia hated Obamacare, but it sure didn't stop them from signing up for the Affordable Care Act. >
  
  Its the Affordable Care Act not Obamacare... see totally different >
  
  And they'll vote republican. >
  
  Well yeah, duh....right wing voters have never been shy about sticking their hand out and yelling "gimmie gimmie gimmie!" at the top of their lungs. >
  
  The politicians that gripe about Obamacare the most are from Red states.  The states that use Obamacare the most (per population) are Red.  Makes you wonder if Red voters on Obamacare are all that smart (politically) to begin with. >
  
  A state of hypocrites >
  
  3.2 million out of 21.7 million. That's about 14% of the state. About typical for most states. The article is a nothing burger. >
  
  It's 20% of the aca sign-ups in the country total, while repping only 7% of the countries total pop.  It's pointing out the undeniable hypocrisy. >
  
  Many states have their own health insurance marketplaces set up. California, for instance had nearly 25% of their population (close to 10,000,000 people) getting insurance through the state-run marketplace. So that may be skewing the numbers. 
  But my point was that only 14% of the state is enrolled in an ACA plan. Even though Florida may be a "red" state, it isn't 100% red. No estate is. Every state is a shade of purple >
  
  Typical. I bet they are too stupid to realize their party of choice wants to gut it entirely. >
  
  Obama care bad! Affordable care act good! 
  People are idiots >
  
  For the good of the nation, people residing in red states who are not vaccinated should not be given medical treatment. These people choose to not get vaccinated. Why should the rest of us have to pay for their poor life choices? They are a pox upon society. >
  
  If I were ever in power, I’d want to run an experiment. Anyone that votes against the social safety net(republicans/libertarians) would not be eligible to receive them.
  I wonder how quick their tune would change? >
  
  They are politicizing healthcare by calling it Obamacare. Call it ACA and watch even more people sign up. >
  
  Of course it didn't. That's the whole point of red states. Drain as much from the federal government as you can while refusing to pay your own bills. Leeches going to leech. >
  
  They didn’t have a choice though. It was either sign up or get fined by your government. When you tell people do this or we will steal your money…..they tend to do what you say.