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  Do it. It would be the best thing. One big one is the more normal elimination of the two party that is slowly tearing the country apart.
context: This is the best thing that could happen for the US. >
  
  Especially if the split becomes permanent. >
  
  Three parties isn’t sustainable in FPTP. One would die out, or two would merge. >
  
  Republicans aren't interested in sustainability, though. Republicans in my state once tried to ban the word sustainability. >
  
  Seriously, what state do you live in? Also, do you have any links to any articles. >
  
  Would that be Mr. Small Govt DeSantis that wants to regulate speech and open up state databases on high school girls menstrual patterns? >
  
  No I think that was now-senator Scott, same thing that banned state gov employees from saying “climate change” or “global warming,” of course in a state bearing the more immediate first decades of negative effects >
  
  Oh, Mr. "I want government to be so small that they don't notice when I scam billions from Medicare." >
  
  Some one needs to tell Trump he will make a ton of money if he runs independent. >
  
  I bet he's already thinking it. He's vain enough to think he could just steal all the Republican votes for himself. >
  
  He’s been sucking all the money from the GOP donors, so it makes sense to think he can get a sizable chunks of votes too >
  
  Seems to me there is a deal to be made here..... >
  
  Question: Does DeSantis really have a chance to beat Trump in a primary? I hope he does because I know Trump’s ego would force him to run as a third party candidate. >
  
  Trump's movement is bigger than himself. He does not dictate their whims. Trump has fallen in disfavor within his own party for reversing his policy on vaccines. Plus, there are new revolutionaries like DeSantis who come with less baggage.
  The primaries are primarily determined by the most hardcore voters, who are likely to be MAGA fans so the real question is if Trump can manage to hold on to his grip to his base. DeSantis is campaigning quite successfully using his governorship, and might sway the evangelicals and old guard to his side, but as long as Trump holds his core MAGA base he'll likely win the primaries. >
  
  Criminal indictments could really shake this up though. That's the part you are missing. >
  
  I think most of us have accepted that nothing will ever happen to Trump. 
  I think of it like a lottery ticket. It would be cool to win, but I’m pretty certain I won’t. I think I’m more likely to win back-to-back powerball jackpots than Trump is to get in real legal trouble. >
  
  I'm pretty confident at this point that he will be indicted and would be shocked if that did not happen this year.
  I have previously drafted a lengthy explanation about why I am so confident. >
  
  I’ve been reading versions of this comment for 6-7 years now.
  Just stop please lol >
  
  What were you reading 7 years ago? The criminal investigation of Trump began in May 2022 and was only made public in August 2022. If someone was predicting a Trump indictment 7 years ago, it would not have been supported by actual DOJ activity.
  In reality, the arm of the law moves slowly (for good reason), and, in an age of 24 hour news cycles, you are probably just getting impatient. But that doesn't change the facts - he is under active investigation and will almost certainly be indicted this year. >
  
  The guy organized a violent coup against the US government to hold on to presidency after losing the elections. It's as damning as it can get in a country that touts its tradition of democracy and liberty. 
  Yet two years after the fact, and after an entire congress commite publicly disclosed their investigation into this crime, not only is he walking around a free man, but his party won the midterms and he's getting ready for another presidency. Trump is above the law and he knows it, and most importantly, the American people do not care. >
  
  This investigation has sent people to prison for long terms, and has slowly climbed up the ladder. The investigation has been described by many  as the most complex ever. And there are many others. Apart from what I want to happen (wishful thinking) I will be astonished if he isn't indicted >
  
  It's been two years since the coup yet there's not even an indicement. The facts are so straightforward it took the Jan 6th commite barely a year to gather all the necessary evidence, the DOJ could've done even faster... Yet still not even an indicement, never mind an actual trial or a first degree verdict - do you honestly think Trump will live to see the inside of a jail cell? >
  
  I support this 100%. >
  
  Do it. Lose everything >
  
  I wish it was everything.  Trump  isn't inspiring an army of election deniers to run at every office. >
  
  Good! Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you! - probably some GOP senator.... >
  
  The senior senator from Naboo. >
  
  Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew… >
  
  Trump has to win the GOP nomination at this point. If he siphons away even 2% of the vote in a general election, that puts Republicans in an almost impossible situation. >
  
  They will fold as soon as it looks like he is ahead in the primaries. Every last one of them. And hopefully they will all look pathetic to the Independents. >
  
  Go ahead guys, split the vote to "own the libz", its what Trump would want you to do. >
  
  It actually is what Trump would want.  To punish the Republican party for their disloyalty. >
  
  Do it >
  
  This is the way. >
  
  It’d be better if he create the MAGA party he always threatened to create. Officially perma-split that shit. >
  
  They could still coalition together to keep majorities >
  
  Hope it happens. The MAGA people take crazy to a whole new level and should be denied power. >
  
  Only the biggest, strongest, smartest, manliest man with the bigliest hands could run as an independent. >
  
  I really hope he loses the nomination and, through arrogant pride, he runs as an independent. >
  
  Best case scenario. >
  
  trump can’t back down because he needs power to avoid prison. The GOP really can’t let trump drag them down further as he is a proven loser. 
  This should get nasty >
  
  That's a bold move, Cotton. Let's see if it turns out. >
  
  Look it’s not easy to choose which arsonist to let lead the country. >
  
  To everything, burn, burn, burn ... >
  
  Don’t forget about Pence and the Christian vote, let’s split it 3 ways! >
  
  Honestly, pence would just split the non-trump Republican votes with DeSantis, giving Trump the upper hand in the primaries. >
  
  Fucking DO IT! >
  
  one needs to tell Trump he will make a ton of money if he runs independent. >
  
  So there not really Due Hard Republicans. Guess they like seeing the world burn. >
  
  I would donate to this a-hole's campaign to have him run as an independent and cut the GOP off at the knees. >
  
  Do it! >
  
  Which is why the GOP will eventually fall in line. They are stuck with him until he keels over. >
  
  Perfect. >
  
  Trump runs as a Rethuglican, is beaten again. Trump runs as 3rd party candidate, is easily beaten as is Rethug. candidate. Either way they lose. >
  
  Go right ahead and split the vote. The absolute best thing you can do for America and the world is to keep the angry orange and repugnantcans out of the Whitehouse. >
  
  Please let him go independent. And please let the Republicans that support him join him. >
  
  And this is exactly why Desantis isn't a threat >
  
  Yes , please do! Do more stupid shit that helps sink your own ship. >
  
  They’ll all fall in behind De Santis. This is just wishful thinking. >
  
  It's bullshit. They'll fall in line behind DeSantis when the time comes. >
  
  Maybe mostly true.  But people like my mom are in the cult of Trump and would never miss a chance to vote for Trump no matter how crazy it is >
  
  I was listening to a pod cast yesterday and they brought up a great point. Trump is most likely going to win the primary because 30% of the base is Trump loyalists. Even if the rest like Desantis it may not be enough because there going to have like 10 people also running which is going to take votes from Destanis. So trump could be with a 30% of the vote. >
  
  The solution to the problem of a far right extremist Republican party is obvious. Charge Trump as planned and work out a plea deal that gets him to run as an independent resulting in a Republican slaughter at the polls in 2024.
  People who say, 'no, we must never make such a deal with Trump' need to get their head out of the fucking clouds and face reality. This is bigger than one conman and a bunch of idiotic idealism. The country needs change desperately and a Democratic supermajority is the only way it could happen. >
  
  This is how Trump can finally MAGA. >
  
  Yes! He should do that and they should support him!!!
  That would be democrats for the win!!!! >
  
  Rinos!!! >
  
  I hope this is how things go >
  
  I do hope he runs, if not in jail or something. Even if he was his supporters would probably believe if they all write him in and he won he could presidentially order his own release. >
  
  Not an independent a straight up NAZI perpetrator boasting pernicious maliciousness. >
  
  What is so sad is how many brain-dead US citizens there are. >
  
  More interested in how many GOP would back Cheney as an independent. >
  
  This would make me feel so owned >
  
  Now there's a good idea.... >
  
  This is a good plan. >
  
  Please do.
  Best case the GOP takes a hit they'll never come back from.
  Worst case we get ranked choice voting in this God forsaken country. >
  
  the best thing that could happen for the US. >
  
  This would be the best thing for America >
  
  Please Go. It wasn’t fun knowing you. >
  
  I think I speak for all liberals when I say, we would be SO owned if he did that. I cannot think of a more thorough owning than if Trump were to run as an independent. 
  Please don’t do that, Trump! It would simply upset us liberals too much! >
  
  A quarter of the GOP would back SpongeBob Squarepants if he offered to sell them a magic red cap that permits them to shoot black children without sin.
  Or wait, it’s the same thing isn’t it?
  dang it. >
  
  I am a super Democrat who has never missed an election in my life and voted blue every time down the ballot would vote for Trump if he does this. Can someone make sure he sees this? >
  
  I hope this happens and that Trump also endorses a MAGA slate of congressional candidates. >
  
  My prediction is Trump is going to bargain dropping out of the race in exchange for presidential pardons if his opponent wins. After he suckers his base into filling his war chest first, of course. >
  
  Yes you got, this is exactly his end game and all the MAGA blowhards will suck it up, get another GOP POTUS it’s all on. >
  
  They keep coming up with new flavors of Biden winning in 2024.  They couldn’t conceive of a boring dad character beating an uncouth mannerless pig in 2020 - they still can’t understand why that’s the same story in 2024. >
  
  Its just too good to be true.  It'd be so cool if Trump did that, but alas, they'll reign him in.  They'll send over the CIA spooks that shot JFK if needed. >
  
  Oh no. Don't do it.... stop you're owning the libs. >
  
  Great news! >
  
  Please god let this happen. >
  
  Please do! >
  
  A split could be the only thing that saves America at this point, so I hope this happens. >
  
  Do they promise? >
  
  Self diagnosing as too stupid to live. >
  
  Wow. That would be ... terrible. No...that's not the word....it's on the tip of my tongue....oh! TERRIFIC! It would be terrific. >
  
   Do it. >
  
  Ken Watanabe: “Let them fight.” >
  
  Sounds good to me.   Biden 24 >
  
  Genuine question from a European dude following American politics. Do you believe Biden could convince as a candidate in 2024? >
  
  I gotta believe.  Biden / Harris ain’t my ideal ticket.  Biden is old as shit.   I think he’s got a good team.   I don’t trust trump or DeSantis.   I think he will get a second term if he runs. >
  
  We may actually be in trouble if Trump wins the primary. If he doesn't, however, and goes independent, the GOP are fucked in 2024. Let's see which way the winds blow. >
  
  Ross Perot 2.0. Time for a Clinton to run again I guess. >
  
  They’re not going to have to. Despite Reddit’s reassurances that Trump is not an issue, he will win the GOP primary. Then people will act shocked and wonder how history repeats itself. >
  
  I don’t doubt trump has a good chance at winning the GOP primary. It’s the general he would get his ass kicked in. He’s done nothing but shed voters since 2020 and his voters aren’t enough to get him over that finish line back then. He has negative electability, he’s so disliked he causes more people to vote just to vote against him. >
  
  Go on an do it then! >
  
  Ah, oh well >
  
  Putin would nuke Trump if he ran a spoiler campaign against his pet party. So not happening. >
  
  Putin has his own problems this time around >
  
  "Remember that, in the past, those who sought power by riding the back of the tiger, ended up inside." - JFK
  GOP: the tiger won't eat me >
  
  They're a bunch of dumbasses, but nothing would be better for the USA. >
  
  If the GOP gave trump a few hundred million dollars he might consider not running at all.  The GOP has that kind of money.  Trump wants that kind of money.  Seems to me there is a deal to be made here..... >
  
  What about the GOP just split >
  
  Welp, you gotta vote your conscious… >
  
  This would be great for america, let the morons separate and split the vote >
  
  Should read “A quarter of GOP drank the Kool-Aid…” >
  
  Man it would be so great >
  
  Oh no…. Clutches pearls >
  
  Please do it >
  
  That would be awesome >
  
  Do it. >
  
  Hilarious >
  
  OH PLEASE YES. All caps for TFG >
  
  Good
  just do it already >
  
  Make it a third? >
  
  Yes. Please let this happen. >
  
  These guys never get tired of losing 🤷🏻‍♂️ >
  
  Excellent. Let them eat their own faces >
  
  Please do trump, think about how much you can grift off the American people without republicans holding you back