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  What a terribly written article.
context: How do you shoot a baby in the back of the head? I can't believe I just wrote that sentence. I'm done with news for a while. >
  
  The cartels are very violent and depraved individuals. >
  
  They need a spa day. >
  
  If by spa day you mean "to be actively hunted" then yeah, sure. >
  
  They’re filling a need, sadly. People buy drugs. Other people make money off of selling those drugs. Those sellers become increasingly greedy, violently so. Continue ad infinitum. >
  
  There's a simple answer:  legalize all drugs.  The Cartels would still subsist on human trafficking, but that doesn't drive this level of depravity.
  Legalize all drugs, and you turn the cartels in to law abiding, tax paying, road-and-school building Central American Big Pharma.
  We've been trying the criminal route for over a hundred years now.  It's never worked, and has served to only flush trillions down the toilet along with millions of lives.  Our police forces have militarized...
  It's insanity.
  We can find other means to deal with addiction, as well as admit that the vast majority of drug users are not addicts, and don't behave in a way that requires the criminal justice system to be involved.
  End the War on Drugs. >
  
  You aren't wrong about the damage the war on drugs has caused. Unfortunately ending the war on drugs would not stop the cartels now. Their investments are... diversified now. >
  
  The arms of the cartels that are involved with human trafficking, gambling, and guns would still remain.
  But those industries don't generate the hundreds of billions of dollars that cocaine and opiates do.
  You're kidding yourself if you think that they'll remain a threat to the public as they now do once drugs are legalized.
  How do I know?
  Because we had the same exact scenario play out here with prohibition.  And then, subsequently with the legalization of gambling and Las Vegas / Atlantic City.
  Each time their bread and butter was legalized, they suddenly found that the rule of law was available to them.  And not only that, that cushy position of advantage would be lost if they started rocking the boat with violence / old habits.
  In the end, we still have a mafia / mob.  But they're not driven by the kind of money that can upend governments.  And all the smart ones went legit, anyway. >
  
  Don't get me wrong, absolutely end the war on drugs. 
  Just adding my .02 that the problem is so big now that we basically have to declare a war on the damage caused by the war on drugs to fix it >
  
  I have no problem reading about violence, but this? Too much, it's a fucking baby. >
  
  I can't even try to wrap my head around the depravity it would take for someone to do that. >
  
  She got custody of her son three days before this as well. Fuck that’s enough reading for today >
  
  I wish certain things existed in movies like Terminators to send and target Cartels and wipe them out.
  And people are confused on how a human can kill like this. They are conditioned to do this young. It’s like Serial Killers but they’re in a structured gang. They feel no emotions or attachment to human life. I would think they feel excitement like Hunters killing a animal with no feelings towards that animal. 
  Stories like this just solidifies that Religion is nothing but a lie because how could a God let this happen because it happens daily and much worse. The stuff you see on the dark web from cartels will make you never want to get on the internet. >
  
  Why do they keep bringing up cartels. When cartels had nothing to do with it. It was Northern California prison gang members. >
  
  Because Tulare County sheriffs are corrupt. They take payments from local gang leaders. Put trackers on cars without warrants & search homes without warrants. >
  
  You don’t need a warrant to put a tracker on a car. >
  
  Yes they do. US vs. Jones >
  
  Damn good work on knowing the name of the case! >
  
  I grew up a couple blocks from Goshen, my family still lives there and are mad I left. This stuff happened all the time before social media, and the news wouldn’t cover it very much. You’d just hear about it by word of mouth. My heart goes out to the family, this is devastating. >
  
  Coming from someone who grew up in Hanford (right next to Goshen) this stuff does NOT happen all the time. Yes, there was gang violence but you'd lying to say this is normal, families do not get targeted. This is insane even for Fresno standards. >
  
  Okay, “this stuff” being gang violence and shootings - not this level of it. >
  
  There's a simple answer:  legalize all drugs.  The Cartels would still subsist on human trafficking, guns, etc, but the revenue from those industries wouldn't drive this level of depravity.
  Legalize all drugs, and you turn the cartels in to law abiding, tax paying, road-and-school building Central American Big Pharma.
  We've been trying the criminal route for over a hundred years now.  It's never worked, and has served to only flush trillions down the toilet along with millions of lives.  Our police forces have militarized...
  It's insanity.
  We can find other means to deal with addiction, as well as admit that the vast majority of drug users are not addicts, and don't behave in a way that requires the criminal justice system to be involved.
  End the War on Drugs. >
  
  These are the words of someone who clearly hasn’t thought through all aspects of “legalizing all drugs” >
  
  How so? >
  
  Legalizing causes more issues than just cutting off part of a cartel’s revenue stream >
  
  Like what?  If you're going to accuse me of being naive, at least put in the effort to communicate. >
  
  There's a pretty big meth problem in my part of California. Kids think it's cool. Do you think having the meth that turns people into nonsense rambling morons who sit outside stores and occasionally go in to steal things  more easily available would make that particular problem better? Do they just need to make "safe meth"  in your estimation?
  The stores in my area are shutting down because of this. It's really affecting the community in a bad way.
  Legalize all drugs is nonsense, and I assume most of the upvotes those posts are getting are by trolls in other countries who want to destabilize ours. Then half of them are kids who think they are sociological geniuses because their upvotes number is higher.
  Legalize education. >
  
  They're going to do it whether it's legal or not.  This is the first fact that you're going to have to come to grips with.
  No one is saying that addiction shouldn't be dealt with.  Just that it shouldn't be a matter for the criminal justice system.
  If your only focus is on protecting people from themselves, and your solution is to use state sanctioned violence to accomplish this, then you're causing more problems than you're fixing.
  And you're ignoring the blowback that causes infants to get executed with bullets in the back of the head.
  The upvotes are coming from people, who, like myself, have observed that we've tried it your way for one hundred years.  And more people than ever are using drugs.  And we have record prison populations.  And we record numbers of refugees coming to our country because narco-violence has leveled theirs.
  One hundred years of failure.  Our police are becoming militarized.  How about all the lives lost because of no-knock raids and police brutality?
  You're happy with that?
  That's just a cost of doing business? >
  
  
  They're going to do it whether it's legal or not.
  
  Same goes for murder do you think that should be legalized too?
  
  If your only focus is on protecting people from themselves
  
  Actually it's on protecting people from each other as well. A person using drugs does not just affect them, that's a cute rosy fantasy but it's just not how it works in reality.
  
  And you're ignoring the blowback that causes infants to get executed with bullets in the back of the head.
  
  A couple of infants being murdered is preferable to the millions who would be abused, neglected, and raised with  the trauma of having addict parents in your ideal world.
  
  The upvotes are coming from people, who, like myself, have observed that we've tried it your way for one hundred years.
  
  No the upvotes are coming from people like you who have decided, either because they want to be progressive or because they themselves want to use drugs recreationally, that drugs should be legalized, and interpret all evidence in favor of that preconceived notion. You can't say that your solution is better than the current one when yours is completely hypothetical--even if the current situation isn't ideal, we have no evidence that legalizing drugs would solve any problems. And I know you're probably clamoring at your keyboard right now to talk about Portugal but that's a completely different culture.
  
  How about all the lives lost because of no-knock raids and police brutality?
  You're happy with that?
  
  No one is happy with that. The point is that it's preferable still to the alternative, but you're so hooked on this idea of drugs being legal that you can't see the horror you are inviting into our front door. >
  
  Really? Baby? California needs death penalty for this cruelty. >
  
  The death penalty is not a deterrent nor is it financially effective nor is it perfect in preventing innocent people from occasionally being put to death. Have them rot in a box for the rest of their lives.
  Edit: and legalize all drugs. >
  
  It’s a fitting punishment for someone who shoots a baby in the back of the head. Just kill them. Doesn’t need to deter them, and the cost issue would be solved if we just fixed the process.
  Edit : to the person who deleted their comment about me skipping over killing innocent people, I feel like “fixing the process” covers that. Just because it’s happened doesn’t mean it always has to happen.
  Also, if an innocent person is being put to death and evidence can’t be gathered to exonerate them, why would they have enough evidence when faced with a different punishment? Sounds like an innocent person “rotting in a cell” for their lives isn’t exactly a favorable outcome either. >
  
  There are no changes that could be made to the criminal justice system that would ensure that 100% of people executed were guilty. There is no way to create a perfect legal system. >
  
  I don’t think that’s a good argument against the death penalty honestly. >
  
  We know for a fact that innocent people have been executed. You don't think that is a compelling argument against the death penalty? >
  
  No. I don’t think that “we can never have a perfect system and there will always be a chance,” is a flimsy argument for giving up on the justice system. Hate to play the slippery slope game but, that same argument can be played against life in prison or just prison time in general.
  If someone can’t get exonerated while going through the endless appeal process that comes with a death sentence, I don’t see how they could get exonerated from life in prison. And in both cases they’re killed by the state, one just makes people feel better because no one is throwing a switch. But leaving them in a cell their whole life is the same thing. >
  
  You can take someone out of prison but you can’t unkill them you complete numbskull >
  
  Not if they can’t beat the charge. You can’t unkill an innocent person who spent life in prison either. It’s why the whole “lock them up forever! Its better than killing them because what if they’re innocent!?” argument is lame.
  Well ok, if they’re innocent but can’t beat the charge they’ll die at 80 years old in a cell still an innocent man. If they’re innocent and can beat the charge they can still do so while on death row. It’s not instant you knucklehead. >
  
  Great, I agree, let's abolish life in prison without the possibility of parole too >
  
  Some Breaking Bad shit is going down.