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  That's because manual labour builds character office work destroys it
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  My dad was a programmer so that would have been a bit difficult to help. Like what, am I supposed to do his code reviews for him? >
  
  The kid could be the rubber duck >
  
  Brilliant. Definitely worth the upgrade >
  
  It’s socially acceptable to have your children do work for your own business but not socially acceptable to have your children do work that someone else is employing you to do for them. >
  
  It is not socially acceptable to make your child do manual labor at the factory you own You're still running the business, but its typically frowned on in society, if you do something like this, but if I saw a kid on a farm, I wouldn't think as much of it, as I would, if I saw them in a factory, which is what the whole post is about. >
  
  I'd say that's pretty normal too.
  I did manual labour at my family's company as a kid.
  As did several other kids I knew.
  They weren't like conveyor belt mass production companies, but it sure wasn't a farm, and it was manual labour (among other things). >
  
  I remember be and my friend sorting out an enormous amount of checks for his dads business as a kid for 5 an hour. >
  
  This is tacit acknowledgement that offices are hellholes. A victorian child might get pulled into a copper loom and die, but they wouldn't risk going through two hours of annual review where all participants had to pretend any of it matters. >
  
  “This is tacit acknowledgement that offices are hellholes”
  Just because it’s illegal to keep alligators in your bathtub in Arkansas but not illegal to keep a camel there does not tacitly acknowledge that alligators are claustrophobic.
  You use really weird logic. >
  
  Not so. We think it inhumane to send a child down a mine, yet place a child on a beach and they will dig as naturally as badgers. 
  However, I have never yet seen a childish game where the infant makes a grid of stick, and places stones in each grid square for hours just so Angelyna in Records can complain the dates aren't formated the way she likes; even though the game refuses to let you ignore automatic date format without putting a bloody pinecone in the square first. >
  
  Every day we stray further from the Astronomican. >
  
  Or if you own your own business, I helped my mom with her business starting at 12 >
  
  Same, moms owned a tanning salon. Got paid more than my first real job. Did laundry, cleaned tanning beds, ate infinite papa John’s because the managers traded for free tanning, got to meet infinite tanning babes as a 10 y/o, and when we weren’t working we would scavenge the field behind the strip mall because there was a paintball store and there tons of intact paintballs in the field! Great times. >
  
  "Dammit Jimmy, I told you I needed those spreadsheets an hour ago. That's it young man, no xbox tonight." >
  
  My mom is a teacher and asks if I want to grade papers. I do not. >
  
  True; if you work in an office (your own), it is only acceptable to hire your children to fake positions for income-splitting purposes. >
  
  Not just income-splitting purposes but also for the effective embezzlement of cash from the tax payer if you are a politician or doing government work. >
  
  It's socially acceptable to help your kids work for good of your household, not for money. I was raised in eastern European village, and we would help adults in the fields when it would come to larger works around the farm but nothing dangerous or physically draining. Adults would still go to work on the top of that and we would have our own stuffs to do around the house like normal kids. >
  
  Eh, I grew up faxing stuff, stuffing envelopes, filing stuff. Then when my mom started her own business I screened calls and scheduled stuff. So it's definitely happened but in our current technology age I think it's a lot less likely. >
  
  Same here. My mom worked at a university and we did work for her all the time as kids (90s), either she brought it home or we went in with her on weekends. If you know the alphabet, you can file. Sorting, stuffing envelopes, basic data entry... maybe it's not a thing now that so much is computerized. They had computers but every little thing had to have a paper copy. >
  
  I grew up in a small town farming community. There were enough farm kids that in high school it was mandatory for EVERY kid to watch a video on farming accidents. Have no interest in farming and eventually moved to the city but had to sit through an hour long slideshow of injuries, manglings, disfigurements, and death. Even the drunk driving lecture was less grotesque. >
  
  Grew up on farms, most machinery’s real purpose is to rip unwary farmer’s limbs off. >
  
  I work on a dairy farm and my coworkers kid has been helping out for the last 3 years! He’s like 12 now. He loves it! Lots of farms have kids helping out and getting paid. As long as it doesn’t interfere with school and social life I don’t see how a few hours of labor per week is a bad thing. >
  
  This makes me think about that kid that ripped both of his arms off working alone on his family's farm. He survived and got them reattached but yeah I mean farm work is dangerous but a lot of families kind of depend on it. Otherwise that kind of shit wouldn't happen. >
  
  Every child/teenager should be mandated to work on a farm at some point in my opinion. Maybe even all adults honestly. >
  
  Do you own the office? CPAs teach their kids in the office. Store owners kids work the register. You can't bring your kid to the employer business and make them work, unless then the employer hires your kid. >
  
  I was taking inventory at the family business when I was 12, maybe younger. >
  
  When I was in high school, my dad was a college textbook editor.  I helped proofread math textbooks for him - making sure the arithmetic was correct, for example, in the examples and answer keys for books for remedial college math classes that I'd already passed.  
  I was paid for this - received checks from his employer as a contractor. >
  
  Cause us city folk got soft hands, and softer insides. Bunch of wussies >
  
  I work in an office at a family owned business. This is false. >
  
  The farm is a family business benefitting all the family. The office isn’t. >
  
  Really, so people working in offices don't spend on their kids, regardless of it's a one man company or a global conglomerate. How do their kids survive then? >
  
  I will assume you misunderstood my post! >
  
  No, you assume all office work isn't a family business. >
  
  You’re assuming you know what I’m thinking. >
  
  Didn't have to assume what you clearly stated. >
  
  You’re very dogmatic. Thank God I haven’t got to deal with you in real life!!! Bye now!! >
  
  Sticking to what you literally wrote isn't "dogmatic", that's just factual. >
  
  Farm works can teach a kid a lot of things. The only thing a child is learning from an office job is how it feels like to be depressed. >
  
  No? It can be very depressing after you've trotted all over 80 partially wooded acres looking for that cow that could be anywhere on it and might be laying down for rest or to birth that calf that's due any day.
  It can also be depressing to buck bales for 8 hours but still have 2 to go, cuz the storm is due to hit in 12. >
  
  Hey, I never said a child wouldn’t learn how it feels like to be depressed from farm works ;)