comment: >
  
  What if I don’t have a beard?
context: Life imitating art imitating life >
  
  once the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again. >
  
  Why can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about? >
  
  I like Community >
  
  Oh, that is nice. >
  
  Pop Pop! >
  
  
  Contestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.
  
  Least exploitative reality show >
  
  seriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget >
  
  But then they could save $50/person by not paying them... >
  
  Found the Studio accountant.  😜 >
  
  The real Squid Game is in the execution. >
  
  The real Squid Game is the friends we made along the way. >
  
  Or the friends we made and lost along the way. >
  
  Or the friends we killed along the way. >
  
  
  Or the friends we killed along the way.
  
  This guy squid games fer real >
  
  From what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else >
  
  It was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time >
  
  30 minutes....?
  Some of us have to hold position for eight hours... >
  
  Eight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours? >
  
  I can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.
  In MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. 
  Whereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how. >
  
  So, I've worked on a few competition reality shows as a producer, and there are so many little things that can go wrong that you never thought of or predicted, and each one of those represents a delay in production. Simple things like cameras not sync'ing up, so you have to stop to re-sync them, a production prop not functioning properly, so the props dept has to come fix it, a contestant doing something that wasn't specifically outlined as being against the rules, but could lead to the competition being unfair or possibly dangerous. Then, you compound all of this by having a cast of almost 500 people - how are you getting all of those people to set? How are you keeping track of them once they're on set? How are you making sure they're all fed and have gone to the bathroom before you start shooting? What do you do if one of them starts exhibiting signs of Covid? Once you start the game, how do you monitor whether they move or not - unless you have one PA for every contestant who watches their contestant like a hawk the entire time, you're inevitably going to miss people who are moving; is that technically fair? Who decides what constitutes a movement? What if producers deem someone moved, but they're adamant they didn't, and are now arguing loudly while you're trying to keep the game moving? What happens if you try to make cast member #254's blood pack go off, but you accidentally make cast member #245's blood pack go off - does #254 just get a free pass to the next round, or do we stop down production to change out their blood pack and wardrobe? Do we have an extra blood pack? Do we have wardrobe that fits them? What do we have the other contestants do while we stop down for 15-20 minutes? How do we get them all back in their exact positions they were in before we stopped down so we don't fuck up the continuity?
  These are just the first handful of issues I can think of while lying in my bed at 6am; there are literally thousands of other things that could (and will) go wrong that no one will have predicted because they'd be impossible to predict.
  Ultimately, this seems like a complete and total failure on the part of the producers to have adequately prepared for having almost 500 contestants on set - but it's also almost impossible to ever adequately prepare for this scenario, and could be reason enough to not even attempt it.
  EDIT: A bunch of people have wondered why Mr. Beast was able to pull this off more successfully, and it's likely that he didn't run an ACTUAL gameshow with strict legal limits and regulations. There's a ton of legalese around it, and I'm not familiar with it all, but there are gameshows (like Jeopardy, Survivor, Top Chef, etc.) which have to abide by these strict regulations, and then there are "gameshows" (Mr. Beast, Billy on the Street, I'm struggling to come up with more examples, but basically anything where the prizes are nominal and gameplay is informal) where you have more wiggle room on the interpretations of the rules and it's more for fun and you're less likely to be sued. I'm not 100% certain, but I think paying your contestants as an employee and/or performer rather than not paying them because they are a "contestant" might be one of those ways around it. >
  
  It’s absolutely a failure. The crew even told the contestants they were severely understaffed but Netflix lied. Netflix also told them in writing filming would only take two hours and they didn’t say anything about it being cold. 
  People were not allowed to wear jackets in negative degree weather and were not given any food. They started at 3:30am and didn’t get back to the hotel until late at night. 
  It’s really hypocritical how reddit is very pro worker and for improving working conditions until it’s something they don’t like then it’s “hilarious” how all these people suffered in sub-standard conditions. 
  Reality TV is still a workplace and safety laws still apply. Netflix is a multi billion dollar company they shouldn’t get a free pass to abuse their staff just because people think the content is silly.
  EDIT: So many people are using the subject matter of the show as justification for the contestants inhumane & unsafe treatment. 
  It’s not a justification. If a production company makes a movie about a guy who steals money, the company doesn’t get to steal the actors paychecks. “Well why would u work on a show about stealing money then wHaT dId u eXpEcT”.  That’s what ya’ll are saying. 
  The same rules apply. Game shows are actually highly regulated by law. Enticing contestants to participate under false pretenses is fraud. 
  Its like being selected for “Who Wants to be a Millionaire” only to show up and have the producers wake you up at 3:30am, drive you to an outdoor location in 0 degree weather, take your phone, insist you can only wear a thin shirt, and make you wait 10 hours in the freezing cold with no food. 
  Then once the game starts you find out you’ll have to answer the questions while dodging daggers by knife throwers while suspended upside down over a tank of sharks. Except the agreement you signed before you joined said filming would be 90 minutes indoors. 
  That’s what the article is talking about. They were given a specific set of conditions before they signed up, but the reality of the game was completely different. The producers even said this is not a physical endurance competition — it’s a game show. They have rules that both parties must follow and if they don’t, they can be charged with fraud. 
  It’s especially suspicious considering the large cash prize and the fact that multiple witnesses have stated the show was rigged and they were eliminated from rounds they didn’t actually lose. That’s literally fraud. It’s no different than fixing a lottery ticket. 
  Not only should these people get reimbursed for their travel expenses, but there should be an independent investigation into the winners & how they were selected including a full review of all the footage during each round. 
  Game shows and reality TV are notoriously cheap to film, that’s why studios love them. They can crank out a hundred of these shows for the cost of one episode of GoT or RoP. 
  There’s is no justification for how these contestants were treated. They are legally entitled to a fair game in accordance to the rules and conditions set by the production company. >
  
  Everything the person you’re replying to said can be true and Netflix can still be held accountable. Just because a corporation arguably didn’t intentionally fuck up doesn’t mean they didn’t fuck up and shouldn’t be held accountable. >
  
  Malice is not a requirement for there to be liability. Along with Hanlon's razor; never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. This whole concept is stupid, pretty much everyone involved who said, "yeah, that's a great idea, let's do it!" Is probably stupid. The people who agreed to be a part of it probably aren't all that bright either. That being said, production companies are still responsible for making sure their cast and crew are treated reasonably well and fairly. If that didn't happen, no matter what the reason is, they're absolutely liable, and there needs to be consequences. Ideally consequences that make this whole harebrained scheme unprofitable, so it doesn't end up with fines just being a cost of doing business.
  Just realized I hit reply on the wrong comment. Too lazy to redo it, but I'm agreeing with /u/Icankeepthebeat, just expanding a bit.
  Edit: corrected the philosophical razor mentioned. >
  
  Occam's razor is "the simplest explanation is often the correct one" >
  
  That's why they said along with Occams razor.
  The quote afterwards is Hanlon's Razor