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context: Really looking forward to these two being identified and put in jail. >
  
  I like how they are as of yet unidentified yet they blur their faces in the video >
  
  Yeah, I don’t get the logic there. >
  
  Maybe the editors on the site are being overly cautious about being accused of 'doxxing'. Though I'd say that this couple should be named and shamed. As it stands, if authorities decide to press charges, their days of anonymity are likely numbered. As might be their 'employed' status at wherever they are currently employed. >
  
  I suppose so. I hope so.
  I would have thought the police seeking them out would be mandatory; she was assaulted. >
  
  Goddamn that was a brutal read. I feel so awful for the victim. >
  
  The video was awful. If the article is a transcript of the video, the victim did a good job of explaining the attack, but the video was even more intense and scary than she made it sound. >
  
  Alright I'll say it, some people just straight up shouldn't exist >
  
  Too many assholes, not enough consequences. >
  
  100% 
  You can get away with an enormous amount of petty borderline serious crimes. You start to wonder what it is that police actually do. Someone steals your ID and heads to a local bank to steal your money from a bank. They take a report. Someone breaks into your car and steals some shit, they file a report. 
  The number of horror stories I've read about women being stalked and harassed on Reddit and the complete lack of fucks given by police. It's sad.
  My best guess, they only go after serious crimes, and ones they can make $$$ off of. >
  
  In the us the supreme courts decided police don’t have to help you. 
  The US Supreme Court has made it clear that law enforcement agencies are not required to provide protection to the citizens who are forced to pay the police for their "services."
  In the cases DeShaney vs. Winnebago and Town of Castle Rock vs. Gonzales, the supreme court has ruled that police agencies are not obligated to provide protection of citizens. In other words, police are well within their rights to pick and choose when to intervene to protect the lives and property of others — even when a threat is apparent.
  In both of these court cases, clear and repeated threats were made against the safety of children — but government agencies chose to take no action.. >
  
  Hope they’re ID’d quickly.  Degenerates. >
  
  Their faces are right there in the video, so... >
  
  Yeah, but why did they blur them? If the cops are still looking, wouldn't they want to show their faces? >
  
  Remember when Reddit "found" the Boston Bomber? >
  
  Did you miss the sequel when Reddit ‘found’ the /r/moscowmurders killer? >
  
  That sub is a complete joke. Just a bunch of tragedy chasers with a victim complex and some sick sympathy fetish. >
  
  Hope that guy goes to prison for a long long time. Don't care if he was off his meds. >
  
  They talk about assault charges but that second round sounded more like attempted murder to me. When she said she'd call the police, herealised his mistake and tried at a draconian solution to avoiding the consequences. >
  
  100%. At a minimum this dude needs about 20 years behind bars to think about this one. Honestly, once you commit violence like this, you really don't ever need to be let out. >
  
  He’s probably done shit like this before. >
  
  
  And so as I approached, the woman said something to me and I said, ‘oh, pardon?’ And she immediately said, ‘don’t ignore me b---h. Don’t ignore me b---h. You heard me put your f---ing dogs on a leash’. And I said, ‘I really didn’t hear you’. And I was standing there like this going, ‘I’m really sorry. I actually didn’t hear you.'
  
  Reminds me of my time in retail where we were required to greet customers when they walked in. I hated doing it because 90% of the time, they genuinely do not hear you because they are in their own heads when walking into a shop. Not a dig at anyone, I'm sure I've done the same thing many times. 
  A guy walks in, I greet him, no response. Then he walks up to me and demands to know why I didn't greet him. I said I did. He says I didn't. I say maybe I was too quiet. Lucky for me, he wasn't too angry and just ordered what he wanted, but that's one of those situations where people just take shit personally. I think he genuinely believed that I decided not to greet him for whatever reason. But even if I didn't greet him, maybe I missed him coming in or maybe I was too busy thinking of what I wanted for lunch. People just get so crazy over stupid shit! >
  
  When I was younger,  I worked retail.  The first thing they taught us was to say good morning,  or “how’s it going today” instead of “can I help you”.  
  A lot of people responded with “no thank you” or “I’m good” as a response because of being conditioned to the usual “can I help you” questions from salespeople.  It would really throw people off their game and made for a great conversation starter. >
  
  In this case it was a simple, "Welcome!" Management didn't expect us to actually start conversations with people just walking in. I didn't expect anything but a nod or a smile or maybe a thanks. 
  We did have a specific greeting for walking up to a customers out on the floor. In our case it was, "What are you celebrating?" We had a whole list of open-ended questions we were supposed to ask and we were quizzed on proper responses as well. 
  "Where is the party being held?"
  "Did you have a theme in mind?" 
  "How old are they turning?" 
  "What characters do they like?"
  Things like that. >
  
  This attack has nothing to do with dogs. It was about someone looking for any excuse to do violence against another person. >
  
  Definitely, if it wasn’t the dogs it would’ve been something else. If it wasn’t her it wasn’t her it would’ve been someone else. >
  
  “I’m scared to look at people in case they’re having a bad day”
  I think a lot of us completely feel that fear these days. >
  
  I just realized a layer of my own personal issues now. I always avoid looking at anyone unless they are talking to me. It's just instinct that if I do, I will be confronted. Wow. That's sad.. >
  
  Jesus Christ people; I live in North Van; many many trails allow dogs off leash! Some don’t, some do, stop blaming her without knowing. She is the victim, ffs >
  
  And the attackers also had their dog(s) off leash! >
  
  We’re “potentially looking at an assault charge”?? I don’t understand why “potential” is necessary, if this person is not charged with assault at the very minimum I will lose faith in humanity >
  
  Good luck we are still working on this one. >
  
  Why are people like this blurred on news outlets? >
  
  So they can't get sued for "Defamation" would be my guess. >
  
  Probably also so guys who look similar to the suspect don't get harassed and assaulted by vigilantes who think they found the right dude.  Just my guess. >
  
  Oh that one makes even more sense.
  Just going by the comments here a lot of people are (rightfully) riled up about this, you post their faces now you got a mob of vigilantes prowling around looking for the suspects. >
  
  I really hope this went on Twitter cause as bad as Twitter is they are better then the police at identifying people and their entire lives. I hope they are found immediately, charged and thrown in jail for a while. Destroy their whole life >
  
  Just need some that recognizes the coats >
  
  North Van eh? Someone please find these people. Rich assholes need to be taught their manners any chance it is possible. >
  
  WTF? People are so psycho! Hope that couple gets arrested as well as publicly shamed. >
  
  Fucking degens from upcountry most likely. >
  
  Fucking degens are the worst. Better call the Ginger....and Boots. >
  
  Didn’t they fuck an ostrich? >
  
  A sick ostrich >
  
  Why are the faces blurred?? >
  
  So people that look similar to them don't get misidentified and harassed or assaulted by people riled up by this attack. >
  
  I think that might be worse, showing their dogs and bodies and playing their voices, but saying they are still trying to identify them with blurred faces. 
  Maybe there's a case to blur the woman, but she hasn't come forward, is protecting the man (who is a criminal and needs to be identified). It is much more important than worrying about lookalikes possibly being side eyed suspiciously 🙄 if that's the worry, why would they ever release faces of robbers/burglars/vandalizers then... why are these people protected when other suspects are not? >
  
  People are insane. I carry mace and a knife when I walk my dog and I'm a 170lb dude - just can't be too cautious. I can't fathom what absolute scumbags these people are to bully and attack a woman. >
  
  I do the same except to protect myself from big dogs who are horribly trained by shit owners. After getting attacked once while running is enough. Stupid irresponsible big dog owners. >
  
  My spray is for dogs too. But I’ll use it on a person if I have too. I don’t need a vet bill for my dog or a Dr bill for me bc some idiot wants me to believe “it’s ok they’re friendly!!” >
  
  That guys lucky he didn’t get mauled by all those dogs beating on their owner like that… >
  
  I'd rather hear a headline along thr lines of that
  "Man in stable condition after woman calls for aid when her 5 dogs defended her from the man attacking her on a hiking trail" >
  
  Lucky for him her dogs seem to be well trained and mild mannered. >
  
  Why are they blurring the attackers faces? >
  
  To avoid reddit detectives from falsely accusing a similar looking but innocent couple >
  
  Bet money he beats his wife too >
  
  I hope these people  spend time in Jail for this >
  
  Honestly, this is just a hop, skip, and a jump from the typical behaviour of an entitled North Vancouver resident. >
  
  Eventually someone is going to identify them and be waiting on the trail with a baseball bat >
  
  And this is why the faces are blurred in the video. Everyone asking - here is your answer. >
  
  People are just getting too emboldened to put their hands/ attack others violently on other people. In Des Moines Iowa a man had his eyes gouged out by another man using his thumbs to press into the others eyes. The attack was over a mask dispute. >
  
  It’s events like these that make it uncomfortable for me to take my dog off leash. I was in a scenario similar to this after seeing many videos like this one Even though my dog was on leash at the time. It was all on camera and the cops to this day despite many attempts from me won’t do anything about it. The other dog was unlicensed unvaccinated has bite history and completely Offleash and came out of the woods charging and bit her unprovoked all on camera. The police won’t do a damn thing and it is so sad. The dog crossed that neighbors property line and came on my property and almost into my actual house. I almost killed the dog attacking my own is the only reason I guess they ignore my pleas to press charges. It definitely struggles as a result to this day and I feel terrible for the dog but my own dog was seriously injured and only mostly recovered
  Edit: the prior bite history for the attacking dog was filed by a shelter that let them foster a Saint Bernard. It killed it while they left them both unattended in their living room >
  
  This happens. You can't control how other people train/don't train their dogs. You can carry a heavy walking stick. And use it. Happened to my dad just last winter. His little dog was on leash, the monster that went after it jumped its fence. Tore his dog up a bit, but he managed to see the big dog off before it killed her. >
  
  I bought my first gun (had one previously but sold it) after the incident. It took a lot of time to get it but it’s with me everytime I take her out now >
  
  This guy definitely has a history of physically abusing women. >
  
  i hope they find these scumbags. how does it even occur to anyone to do this, u have to be genuinely stupid >
  
  Curious to know why the faces of these ass~~hole~~ailants were blurred. It’s a public space so privacy isn’t warranted. >
  
  Canada has really strict laws around crime on television. Decades ago they couldn't even name or show you the pictures of people on trial for being serial killers.
  Most Canadian news is like American news was in the '50s and '60s. It's very sensitized and not sensationalized. In America we would say this is a freedom of the press issue, but Canada doesn't have that freedom. The plus side is that the whole country doesn't live in fear of random crime. They don't all have to go out and buy guns to protect themselves from the endless stream of bullshit that's on our nightly news. >
  
  I wouldnt say we dont have freedom of the press, it's just there are limitations when it interferes with other peoples' freedoms.
  Canada has a different flavour of freedom that Americans don't undertand as liberty-- 'freedom from' rather than 'freedom to', as in we have the freedom from things like hatespeech rather than freedom to be hateful >
  
  I’m shocked the dogs didn’t ambush this piece of shit. My dog is a whopping 18 lbs and would have been on him like white on rice >
  
  Their faces from the unblurred video should be posted all over the place. These shits need to be hunted down. >
  
  I cannot imagine hitting a woman. What a fucking scumbag. How does the Canadian justice system handle an assault like this? >
  
  We make them drink maple syrup until the sugar hardens in their veins and petrifies them. Then we put them on display in front of parliament before grinding them up and adding them to dog food for our dog sled teams which gives them super powers; so it’s a nice complete circle for this guy when he gets caught. >
  
  as is tradition >
  
  I wish I had been there and I’m glad she’s ok. >
  
  Typical dumb people that exist today. Nothing new here , just the standard Karen/idiot/no manners/fuck everyone else /people.  Meh >
  
  Canadians are the nicest people… >
  
  Normally if I’m on a trail, I’ll always carry a knife with me, bc nature is fucking scary. 
  But this is a constant reminder, that people are too.
  Poor lady. >
  
  I would never condone violence against another. I will also say if you have a dog in public and they are not leashed you are an asshole. >
  
  If your dogs are off-leash on an off-leash trail and are behaving, then I don’t see the problem. She was travelling with a small pack. I’m surprised none of them tried to protect her. I guess because she was their walker, not their person. >
  
  My one dog would have ripped him apart.  He’s amazingly loving but a very protective dog. >
  
  I knew someone who had a dog like that too. I never knew the dog but i heard the person talking about the dog once. Well, i didn't really hear them talking about the dog, i actually read it, it was in a reddit thread. And i didn't really know the person either. Actually I think I'm thinking about you and your one dog. >
  
  You tried. >
  
  I guess we can't all have sweet stories about that one dog we have. >
  
  As soon as pet owners are criminally liable for the actions of their pets, as if the owners had committed those acts themselves, you can have any leash law you want.  
  "But I can't control my pet's behavior all the time."   
  Exactly. >
  
  So why have off leash trails at all. The point of an off leash trail, I would guess, is you can have them off leash. If you don't want to encounter off leashed dogs, go to a leash only trail. If I were afraid of strange, unleashed dogs, I wouldn't go to one of the only places I'm almost sure to encounter them. ESPECIALLY when I can go to a leash only trail. These people are garbage and also had an unleashed dog. >
  
  Lifetime runner/cyclist here: “But he’s friendly! He never bit anyone before!” >
  
  Why do SO many people think this is acceptable human behaviour now. Goddamn degenerates. >
  
  People seem to forget that these people, whose dogs were also off leash, told this woman to “leash her fucking dogs”.. hypocrisy at its finest. >
  
  That’s why I don’t walk alone in the woods. Too bad she didn’t have a trained k9 to take them down >
  
  Wtf people. I think we all need to remember that the main point here is that this woman was physically assaulted twice by a man  who was clearly much bigger and stronger than her. That's the issue . It's unacceptable and unjustified. Period. >
  
  All of the dogs should be on a leash, especially if that asshole is walking 5 of them. As a dog walker I can't count how many times some shithead has had their dog off and I needed to pry it off the dog I'm walking while the moron stands there and goes "oh it's fine, they're friendly". No it's not fucking fine, how does that moron know that the dog I'm walking isn't going to tear it a new asshole. How do I know that their "good dog" actually isn't a good dog, and now the dog I'm walking is messed up because it just got attacked by a "good dog". >
  
  That was so horrible and senseless to read and see. I grew up hiking and biking local trails and the only reason my mom insisted I take pepper spray with me was because she was worried about an animal potentially coming after me, not the chance I'd get attacked by angry, crazy people on the trail. 
  It's sad that now people trying to enjoy nature need to carry pepper spray or a gun to be safe from people instead of dogs or bears. Also this is the reason I encouraged all my younger, female cousins to take a self defense course meant to teach women how to defend themselves from bigger male attackers, which did save one of my cousins from a guy in college. I'm happy to say she kicked his ass. >
  
  What kind of dogs don't protect their owner? >
  
  Horrible. It's very weird that they did a 3 second dramatic reenactment of the incident of the event. Like, either don't show the event, or use part of the actual footage she took. What was the point of that? >
  
  What?  I saw the real footage. >
  
  From a 3rd person point of view with the faces blurred? Who took the footage? Why blur the faces when authorities are trying to identify them? >
  
  The  anchor says "That's when [victim] pulled out her phone and started recording..."
  It also says that the police have released the video to the public, but maybe the news station blurred what was used on their broadcast to avoid any defamation lawsuits.  
  But to me, the poodles were right there, with terrible haircuts you'd never use for any reproduction, they'd have perfectly groomed dogs. So that's why I fully believe that this is the actual footage.
  Edit: I rewatched it, and there is a part where they slow it down while she's falling into the bushes that I can see would make it look weird, but watch it again. >
  
  It would be great if the terrible hair cuts are what lead to the perpetrators being identified. >
  
  Hiding the faces of people committing a violent crime in a video is one of the dumbest and most pathetic acts of "journalism" I can think of. Just who the fuck are they protecting? If this is due to some Canadian law then fucking hell, what a shitty law. Get their faces out there so they can be identified. >
  
  Yea, because reddit did such a great job with the Boston bombers that we should let them be the detectives. >
  
  Do you understand the concept of asking the public to identify criminals in a video? It happens probably every single night on your local news. >
  
  No it doesn't. This isn't America. >
  
  The police never put out public appeals to identify someone? I find that hard to believe. >
  
  They will occasionally when it is a very serious crime. But not "probably every night" like you said. We haven't turned it into entertainment like the U.S. has. 
  Even accused people have rights in Canada. 
  And we don't want vigilantes, because they usually get it wrong or commit crimes themselves in pursuit of a personal view of justice. >
  
  How on earth would revealing those people's faces on the news in order that they can be identified and arrested for the assault committed on video count as "entertainment"? I've also lived in the UK and Spain and in both places you'd see those "police are asking for help identifying a man caught on video" segments all the time. >
  
  I hike every day.   If I passed someone walking 5 dogs off leash I would be extremely upset.  I’ve been bitten 3 times by off leash dogs.   Now I walk with a big ole stick.  It’s amazing how people will put their dogs on leashes most of the time now.   It seems to me they are more worried about their dogs than another person.
  It goes without saying I would never attack someone physically for it.  However, I am not getting bit again without the dog and owner regretting their poor decisions. >
  
  You've nothing to the conversation with that statement. >
  
  Horrible trash people. But honestly your dogs should be on a leash. If you encounter other people or dogs you will have a hard time pulling a large dog off someone or some animal if they attack for some reason. Also why did they blur the attackers face??? Don’t you want to catch him? >
  
  These people are obvious psychos and need to be in jail. I am not justifying them in any way. I hope they are caught and severely punished.
  At the same time...PUT YOUR DAMN DOGS ON A LEASH! She still seems to be trying to justify that her dogs were off leash at the beginning of this story. >
  
  It's an off leash trail, the attacker's dog's weren't on leash eathier, because it's an OFF LEASH TRAIL! >
  
  I didn't say the attackers had their dogs on leash.
  5 dogs off leash is too much...two things can be true at once.
  Attacking her isn't justified, and nobody said it was. >
  
  
  attacking her isn’t justified
  
  And yet here you are finding excuses to place blame on a victim that did nothing wrong >
  
  No, I'm not, you fucking moron...you obviously are reading what you want into my comments. >
  
  
  you fucking moron
  
  I love when people like you start lashing out with personal insults bc you have no substantial argument >
  
  No, I'm sick of people like you...You have no common sense, want to argue and then play victim.   
  Nobody justified these attackers but you want to argue, so you just say I did...so, fuck you. >
  
  Seek help, buddy. You seem pretty unhinged. >
  
  Here you are again, just making argumentative comments...
  You seem like a fucking moron and are removing all doubt every time you make a comment...
  So please, continue with your fascinating insight. >
  
  If you need help finding a therapist, lmk 🫶🏻 >
  
  If she had a tool to defend herself she wouldn’t have injuries. >
  
  Just years of lawyers and court. >
  
  Buddy you’re pretty fucking lucky someone like me wasn’t around. I guarantee you wouldn’t be walking out of those woods on your own power. The last guy I caught (trying) to beat his girlfriend found me instead. And I gave that fucker enough hell, he’s gone gay. >
  
  And then everybody clapped and said you were their hero? >
  
  Just the lady did. I don’t do dinner shows child. >
  
  Your dogs should be on leashes unless in designated off leash areas.  Of course they should not have attacked the women like that wow >
  
  It was a an off-leash area. The attackers dog was off leash too. >
  
  We're saying couple but it was the man. Who I presume is single now. >
  
  5 dogs off leash…. Yikes…. Then another 2 more. Even if an of leash area.., it sounds like a recipe for trouble. 
  Should never put your hands on anyone but there certainly could be more to the story. >
  
  Right? Maybe one of the dogs stepped on his foot. That would certainly give him the right to beat her face and head with both fists over and over and over. >
  
  I always carry pepper spray on my hikes. It is not for bears but rather for 2 legged idiots that want to hurt me. >
  
  Why block out their miserable fucking faces? >
  
  I'm glad they're "potentially looking at assault charges." >
  
  Anyone else feel like she’s lucky they didn’t kill her? These two really need to be found before they kill the next person. >
  
  Fucking pieces of shit. Hope they both rot. Poor lady, hope she's getting good support. >
  
  Good thing Canada has such strict gun control. Have to make sure defenseless women can’t defend themselves against a random man who decides he wants to beat the shot out of her for no reason >
  
  Ok but this man could've easily taken out a gun first instead of his fists? If victims have access to guns so do their assailants. How do we know the victims will be able to draw and shoot first? >
  
  But your cats are off leash. And you’re aware a lot of dogs tend to go after cats. So why would you make room for a scary outcome and then threaten use of a sword? >
  
  There is no Leash laws for cats, also I see maybe 3 people a year out on these trails and I always ask them if their dogs are cat friendly, they have all said yes. You guys need to relax I'm not out luring dogs on a heavily trafficed trail. The sword is for the coyotes, snakes, fisher cats and Martins which are a much bigger threat in these forests. >
  
  Another selfish entitled dog owner >
  
  Shouldn’t dogs are always be on leash on a trail? >
  
  Some trails are designated off leash for dogs. >
  
  Exactly. Some. Doesn’t quite say was this off leash or not in the article, eh? Very likely wasn’t off leash trail >
  
  What does that change here? >
  
  It changes that they wouldn’t have started the fight over unleashed dogs. That’s what it changes, you don’t see that? >
  
  The perps also had unleashed dogs, what's your fucking point, nimrod? >
  
  Strange crime for a Canadian, eh. >
  
  If she had rotties this would have never happened!!! >
  
  I live in North Van and I hike on many of the trails. Yes, there are MANY dog owners who think their pet is above rules and bylaws (fucking Mosquito creek comes to mind. The one side trail, that now has latching gates, because they are trying to revitalize the salmon spawning habitat, still has dog owners letting their dogs run loose. Fuck you, you fucking fucks. There’s a LATCHING GATE now. Keep your dogs out) 
  Anyway, back to what I was saying. There aren’t a lot of off leash trails but the ones that are off leash, are well known. Then there are those trails that aren’t super well known, and aren’t off leash, yet, rangers or bylaw officers aren’t known to patrol. My initial instincts say that the victim and the offending party were in a non off leash place. The problem arose because the victim had a lot of dogs, but was in control of them. The offending party was not in control of their many dogs and was worried a “commercial” dog walker was going to ruin their “off leash” place that is not off leash. I am not victims blaming, that poor woman suffered so much because of some assholes who felt they could gate keep a trail. No one is above rules and bylaws but it is not something the general public is allowed to take out on each other.  This couple had a plan in place in case of confrontation, that plan included violence at any cost. Fuck them. 
  I hope the victim gets all the help she needs and can gain back her confidence to keep doing her job. Honestly, I’d accompany her on a dog walk, and I’m not particularly tall or strong, but I could help if another situation like this arose. >
  
  Why did they censor that fuckers face. I walk those trails. Hope I see that jacket.