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  "De-escalation" was literally the name of the training in police forces a couple of decades back (at least according to the various police friends I had back in the day).
  Nowadays, it's called "Killology" and contains such gems as "you have great sex after killing someone!"
context: Quick guys there’s someone shooting innocent people somebody call the co… oh wait never mind >
  
  Has anybody tried calling the FBI to come swat some cops? Maybe we just need to try keeping the ball rolling. >
  
  not too long ago the cops were called on an atf agent trying to do a home visit. he got tased and cuffed and that’s just hilarious >
  
  First, obligatory fuck the ATF.
  Second, though, in fairness, someone called the cops about a man harassing someone at their home (ATF agent wouldn't leave after the resident told him to fuck off), and when the cops showed up, the ATF agent A, still refused to leave, and B, also told the cops to fuck off. I saw that video. 
  Like, I'm no friend of the ATF, or the cops. But if some asshat is standing on my front porch, constantly ringing my doorbell and refusing to leave, and the cops show up and he starts getting combative with them as well, I wouldn't feel that bad about seeing him get tazed. >
  
  didn’t know he was that persistent i guess i just saw the part afterwards 
  but yeah, all cops >
  
  Ah yes, they shot him for "leaving the scene of a non-crime." >
  
  Like that poor kid in the mcdonalds parking lot eating a burger with his girlfriend >
  
  Sorry, what’s the story here?!
  Do I dare ask…? >
  
  Some kid was on a date with his girlfriend in their car at a mcDonald's parking lot and some monkey brain badge gang member mistook it for a different car, went up to the driver's side door and opened it, kid got scared (probably thought he was being carjacked) started to drive away, and the state sponsored out of control murderer magdumped his pistol into the car, ~~killing the kid~~
  There's bodycam footage online
  Edit: Kid survived after being shot multiple times >
  
  I thought he survived???? >
  
  I'll be damned you're right, I was sure he died, he got shot multiple times.
  Poor kid, Injuries like that are life altering, and only 17 >
  
  The chief's first statement was that the door hit the officer? Do you laugh? What's the reaction I'm supposed to do? >
  
  Oh, the door accidentally hit the cop who opened the door of an unsuspecting and innocent civilian? I didn’t know that GTA had cops pegged so correctly, where if you accidentally bump into them on the street they just waste you! >
  
  The door also made him shoot 6 shots at a fleeing person >
  
  If a non-cop shot at someone that was retreating, that would be assault with a deadly weapon and more than likely you'd lose your right to bear arms. There's lots of rules for regular people of when to shoot and not shoot. I don't understand how the people responsible for enforcing the law don't understand these rules. >
  
  “The call was placed to a non-emergency line but rerouted to general dispatch” so like, no matter what they respond like a fucking swat team. >
  
  I found weird items in the back of my truck after a murder happened in a rougher part of my neighborhood so I called the non emergency line to offer it to the police Incase it was evidence from the murder. They not only treated me like an idiot, but also said "are you the guy who called 911 over suspicious shoes" 
  No im the guy who called the non emergency line because I had someone ditch a pair of Nikes that aren't worn out in the bed of my truck less than a mile from a murder. Do you want them or not? 
  Yes I felt dumb calling them but if it wasn't for the murder happening within walking distance I probably would have just tossed them. >
  
  The podcast about the murder if you had've tossed the shoes without alerting authorities: "The shoes were dumped in a neighbour's truck bed, and the owner of the truck threw them away without a second thought, destroying valuable evidence despite the widely publicised murder that occurred nearby!" >
  
  Instead, we just get the usual podcast: "police ignored many possible opportunities to review evidence etc that could have possibly lead to the killer much, much sooner".
  "Police ignored the boy lying in the front seat, bloody and crying, and waved the killer on". Which one was that, again? I think the poor young man had actually had his skull drilled into. >
  
  Jeffrey Dahmer I think. Unless it's happened a few times which isn't out of the question. >
  
  It happened for Dahmer twice, albeit not that specific situation. Im sure a lot of people have gotten away with it because police didn't care. >
  
  This happened to Konerak Sinthasomphone, who was fourteen at the time and did not speak English very well. The child escaped, was visibly, intoxicated, scared and in distress when found by neighbors, the murderer tried to shoo them away to take Sinthasomphone back, the police were called.
  The police arrived and the murderer framed the situation as a lovers spat, never mind that Sinthasomphone was fourteen. The neighbors protested loudly, however they were black and the police told them to butt out and leave or they’d be arrested. Sinthasomphone was handed back to the murderer and taken back to the apartment, where he was killed and his remains raped and mutilated. The police in the meantime joked afterwards that they needed to be “deloused” after dealing with gay people.
  In the case of this murderer there were many chances the police had to intervene. The murderer was pulled over with the remains of Steven Hicks (22), the first victim, in bags to be disposed. They waved him on. The apartment stank profoundly, and there were many complaints but nothing was done. The murderer was known for being aggressive in local bathhouses. These were ignored because the area was inhabited by people of color (Black folks and Asian immigrants) and gay folks.
  The only reason that the murderer was caught was because Tracy Edwards escaped, with handcuffs still on him he was able to convince the police to finally come to the apartment where they found overwhelming evidence of what had been done. The police had to be pulled to the place and have everything laid out for them in such an extreme way after months of being told. The murders victims were overwhelmingly impoverished people of color. >
  
  One of those cops eventually was elected president of the police union. The other rose to the level of interim police chief for a Milwaukee exurb. >
  
  It's important to mention this every time it comes up. "Gave a scared, confused, injured child to a murderous cannibal rapist" is not an obstacle to advancement within the police force or union. That encapsulates the problem right there. Impunity plus reckless incompetence. >
  
  
  Frasure was shot at least once in the head. He was transported to University of Cincinnati Medical Center, where he died.
  
  Apprehending a suspect for burglary and/or fleeing should not be done so with deadly force. This is what happens when police get away with murder. >
  
  They're already trying to frame it as him putting the officers in mortal danger by driving his truck at them.
  
  
  Guy is spending time off work to empty the apartment of a dead relative.
  
  
  Neighbour calls police, claiming robbery in progress.
  
  
  Police arrive.
  
  
  *TIME PASSES*
  
  
  Guy tries to flee from danger.
  
  
  Police try to kill him.
  
  
  
  Apparently, he was known to them.
  However, this alone doesn't justify a shooting, nor does simply fleeing.
  Still need the camera footage to clarify the manner of his driving as the police describe it. >
  
  Police succeed in killing him >
  
  Police claim that they feared for their lives in situation that they created. >
  
  This is almost always the case >
  
  If only there were methods of deescalation
  And methods of training them to people
  Idk, maybe like cops?