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  Agreed. Normally I'd be giving a marvel film my whole attention but this one I found myself scrolling through Reddit.
context: Namor was the movie's saving grace and every scene without him was just slow paced, overly dramatic, or boring.
  I remember pausing it on Disney+ for a bathroom break and thinking "Fuck, there's still an hour and 40 minutes left?" >
  
  When I watched in the cinema i sort of started to realise how long it has been and I was like this is nowhere near the final conflict yet why is this film so long >
  
  Exactly, they could have cut legitimately an hour or so and it would have made basically no difference >
  
  They needed to cut out the American girl's plotline completely. It wasn't necessary and they could have focused on Namor a little more. >
  
  She's a Marvel hero too--Ironheart I believe. That's why she was introduced and given so much screen time. Although she's an awful character so far and I'm not saying this cuz she's black. I literally saw Black Panther 1 & 2 in theaters. I just don't like her character.
  I'm not a fan of ultra genius, sassy ass kid characters.
  They deus ex machina every situation and then they act all high and mighty about it. Ewww.
  A good character has flaws.
  Hopefully her movie gives her more nuance but Black Panther 2 made her seem unlikable. >
  
  i always hate the ultragenius characters because they always shit on the other people in their field. "oh, those guys working their asses off in a field they love? idiots. Complete morons. I built a working nuclear reactor in my sleep when i was 2" >
  
  Totally. They're just assholes. Tony Stark is also an asshole but he's at least extremely entertaining about it. Hard not to like Tony Stark. 
  I didn't mind Shuri but having another genius character in the same movie seemed a bit redundant.
  Funnily enough, it ended with multiple iron Man type suits flying around the battle field at the end. Which just isn't that fun to watch anymore. >
  
  Yeah and Tony's genius was a little more balanced and justifiable. He had a long career in the  weapons industry and had access to world class technology ip and equipment. He didn't invent the arc reactors overnight he adapted an abandoned r&d project for it. 
  On top of that he is an emotionally interesting character. He acts like an ah hotshot externally but internally his true drive is fear and anxiety. He doesn't spend his life optimizing his equipment because he wants to be a cool badass he does it because he's terrified of not being able to protect the people around him. >
  
  Tony also blew himself up a few times. You watched the development and it felt like he earned it. >
  
  More than that, in the MCU, he did it first. It's a lot easier to enjoy something while it's fresh and new vs when you've already seen 3 different characters with the same schtick. 
  I mean plus, let's be honest RDJ oozes charisma. >
  
  I really enjoyed the first movie, but Wakada Forever was easily forgettable.  The only scene I can recall was the Queen's emotional speech to the bald woman (I forgot their names).  That scene was so powerful. >
  
  Wakanda Forever was never going to measure up to Black Panther.  It had the impossibly tall task of respectfully dealing with Chadwick’s death, and setting up whoever had to take up the mantle next after his portrayal of the character.  It could have been two separate movies to tackle each task, but that would have been tactless.  It also came at a phase in the MCU where old characters are being retired and new ones introduced, so it felt like another drop in the bucket of recent installments, sadly. 
  Also they should have brought Bucky back to Wakanda.  That movie could have used some James Buchanan Barnes. >
  
  Crossover support... THAT is what it was missing. >
  
  Yeah, it really seemed to lack the interconnectedness that ties Marvel films together. I think somebody namedropped the Hulk once, but otherwise don't remember any other nods to the broader MCU.  No end credit teasers, no special cameos, it almost could have been a stand alone film. >
  
  Some agent screams out that, "she's got an ironman suit" in the garage scene. that gave me a chuckle >
  
  Which almost didn't even make sense. At that point, her "suit" was barely an exoskeleton. With how famous Iron man was, no one would look at her suit and immediately think "iron man". >
  
  Probably just a quick and understandable way for him to communicate with the other soldiers that she has a powered suit of some kind, instead of "she has a powered exoskeleton!" >
  
  You can say that about almost all marvel projects made after Endgame >
  
  RDJ carried Marvel on his back. Without him there is no soul. >
  
  I disagree with that. Even though RDJ was great. I think the focus went from trying to tell a great story into getting all the PC boxes checked. As Asian American, I still think they failed. >
  
  PC boxes or not is really not the problem. They are simply not choosing good stories to tell, and the stories they are choosing to tell relly on you watching their TV shows to fully enjoy what is being told. 
  I think Marvel picks back up when they go to X-Men and Fantastic Four stories. >
  
  I feel like Disney+ revitalized Star Wars but killed Marvel. >
  
  It's just too much. Three movies a year, three shows, and a couple short films. That's a lot to keep up with, and the burn out is too easy. >
  
  I don't buy that. If the quality remained excellent, no one is getting "burned out" on 30-40 hours of their favorite content over the span of a year. 
  People will binge 30 hours of one show over a long weekend if it holds their interest. You only feel "burnt out" if what you're watching doesn't end up hitting the quality standard that's expected.
  I'm not "burnt-out" on Marvel after watching Wakanda Forever, I'm just disappointed they didn't make a better movie. Same thing I said after almost all the movies in phase 4. It's not burnout, they're just not very good movies. Its' all fan-service and grossly bloated scripts. >
  
  I thought it was pretty good but goddamn was it long. I’m kind of tired of every Marvel movie being 3 hours long now >
  
  I think
  It was a good film, for the main character dying and most of the original
  Cast being expected to carry on and not only mourn him on camera but also off camera. 
  What I didn’t like it how uneven and OP the sea people were. I also don’t like how they gave them vibranium.  I get they didn’t want to do the Atlantis thing, but atleast make their secret element jade which was commonly used in their culture. 
  His fight with M’baku should’ve been longer >
  
  Make their secret element jade? Bro jade exists lol. What do you mean? >
  
  Maybe some jade gold fusion formula that only they’ve mastered, it’s sci fi you sleepy potato, you can literally just act like it doesn’t exist >
  
  Homie that’s why they made some new shit up lol. I’m with you on also making up some new shit for sea people. But jade isn’t a secret, haha. Now if you called it jadium. And it was loosely based off jade but also fit somewhere in the universes power scaling, sure. But just fucking jade? I’m dying. Thank you. That’s a great laugh. >
  
  I like this concept >
  
  Huh, interesting. I actually wasn't too big of a fan of the first one, and enjoyed this one way more >
  
  I completely agree. I really enjoyed Wakanda Forever more than the first movie. I mean, this opens up all of the possibilities for T’Challah to meet Storm, especially because they’ve already tied Wakanda into the mutant world. I wish more people were excited about that. >
  
  This was way better than the first one. The discussion about the first and third world and the metaphors for all of that were much better in this movie in the last. The first one had a few good points (mostly made by the bad guy) but quickly got sucked into Marvel's 3 Act Plot mechanism. >
  
  The real transgressor was the first Black Panther movie. Just another Marvel movie made by the same Marvel formula
  But it was given 3 Oscars, among other awards. >
  
  It wasn't even one of the BETTER Marvel movies.  
  I've seen it twice and I barely remember anything from it because it was so boring and non-sensical. It also had some of the worst CGI in the series.   
  Oscars is a joke. >
  
  
  It also had some of the worst CGI in the series.
  
  Counter point: no Marvel movie will ever have CGI as bad as the Killmonger T'challa fight at the end of the first one. >
  
  That's not a counter point >
  
  Thought they were saying wakanda forever had some of the worst, my bad. >
  
  Yeah, so you’re agreeing with him. Counter point is when you have a point that disagrees >
  
  Counter counter point >
  
  It’s funny that this popped up on my Reddit feed because I sort of had the opposite experience.
  I’ve tried keeping away from hyping myself too much about Marvel movies after Dr. Strange and Thor were big disappointments to me. So I know and have read very, very little going into BP2. People I know in real life all seemed pretty disappointed about the movie and at very best said it was pretty average. So I pretty much didn’t care to see it at all after not really caring for it to begin with and people giving me pretty low reactions to it.
  Well, this morning I got back from early morning grocery shopping. Made some breakfast and thought, “Fuck it they put it on Disney+, I’ll check it out while eating and turn it off when I’m done cause I’m sure I won’t like it.”
  And surprisingly, I enjoyed it. I think Namor was a very interesting character and probably the best film antagonist Marvel has had in awhile. I thought they handled Chadwick’s death very well and did a good job continuing the story without him.
  I think the combo of a strong antagonist and going in with extremely low expectations left me pleasantly surprised. >
  
  Agreed. I also loved seeing the Wakandans vs the Talocans. Africans vs Mayans with futuristic versions of their ancient weapons? That's just a fun time by itself. >
  
  Was boring and forgettable.  And that’s from a hardcore Marvel fan. >
  
  So boring. Not enough cool super hero stuff, hardly any quips or fun, iron heart did nothing, virtually no other tie ins, references, or setups for the future. And it was the last movie of phase 4, which is supposedly setting up the next major saga. The last movie of phase 1 was The Avengers.   I think the only weaker phase 4 movie was Eternals. >
  
  Tenoch Huert and Angela Basset reportedly experienced severe back pain from carrying the entire film >
  
  I remember I got convinced the first one was special, so I watched it. And it felt just like every other superhero movie I’d ever seen. Tropes and all. Not bad, but really not anything special either. >
  
  GASP.. You must be racist 🤷🏻‍♂️ >
  
  Not the first time I’ve heard that comment >
  
  I’m sure you mean about the movie but it does sound kind of funny if you think about it >
  
  I didn't like the first Black Panther and probably won't be watching the new one. Chadwick Boseman was great in the role, I just didn't think it was a good movie. >
  
  Civil war black panther was so good. They really watered down the character as the films went on >
  
  Yes! Man, I was so disappointed with the Black Panther movie. BP was straight up the best part of Civil War. 
  Had he had a movie before the first or even second Avengers movie, I definitely think it would've been incredible. >
  
  I liked it >
  
  I enjoyed it too. I felt emotional in the beginning and the end about Chadwick. I thought that it was handled respectfully and in good taste. 
  I also loved that black panther and the other side characters were women. It’s nice to have more representation. 
  I didn’t think the story line was ground breaking, but not many superhero films are anyway. >
  
  I just watched it yesterday. It was pretty good. But I like this kind of stuff so whatevs. >
  
  Namor was fantastic >
  
  It was pretty much a mess of bloat, poor motivations, contrivance, and worst of all a lead with all the charisma of pack of tums. The worst thing about it though, is that it's probably the best thing phase 4 had to offer. Phase 4 has been a shit show. Theres promising bits here and there, but it's all just ultimately garbage. Victoria Alonso is just out of her depth and it shows in every production. 
  By the way, phase 4 had more minutes of content in 2 years than phases 1 2 and 3 had in over a decade. Disney is just shitting out content to be consumed at this point. >
  
  You didn’t like the Spider-Man movie? Def a lot better than this >
  
  i hated the message. as in, killing someone so horrible is... bad. like no it isnt, this is a person whos a danger of society. not killing your evil villain is how you end up in a batman situation and fight the same clown for 80 years, not to mention its unsatisfying as hell. can we bring back killing villains? its far better than this wishy washy bullshit. or at least can we make their own plans kill them? >
  
  That's the thing though, Peter fixed them all, so they could all go back and be semi-normal members of society. >
  
  I saw it in the theater and it didn’t feel long or boring to me at all. It it actually seemed to go by pretty quickly. >
  
  I watched it at home and was glued to the screen My first reaction was “oh my god it’s almost 3 hours?” Then I watched it and was like “That was the 3 hours? What the fuck” it really didn’t feel like it was that long.
  I’m usually really bad about checking how much time is left in a movie every few minutes but with this one I didn’t do that for whatever reason. >
  
  Started strong, then kept going and going… not to mention the blue skin and underwater kingdom looked really terrible and it was released a few weeks before Avatar. >
  
  I didn't watch trailers or anything from both movies and was legit confused in the beginning like "is this avatar? Wtf" >
  
  Same here. My first thought was did they rush to get this out just to get it out before avatar 2? >
  
  Twas shite >
  
  Honestly, I don’t think this is an unpopular opinion, it’s just that everyone is scared to say it. >
  
  This! >
  
  Yeah. I had people hate because I said the first one was bad, too. My now 8 year old loves the franchise, though. Then again, he loves ninjago with passion so I don't know if his opinion matters. >
  
  you bald headed demon >
  
  Considering the extensive rewrites it turned out better than I thought.
  But it was nowhere near as hyped as the first one >
  
  The social race element to those movies made them unbearable. By “social race element,” I mean the fact that they were moronically made out to be shining symbols of black power, when in fact they’re just mediocre films and are incapable of addressing real issues in society. >
  
  The politics of it were crazy. In one speech they’re complaining about colonialism while talking about how they’re spying on everyone and while they execute military operations in foreign nations without permission. All from a woman who has absolute power and whom wasn’t elected.
  It kept making me roll my eyes. >
  
  Wakanda is a horribly racist black nationalist movie, intended for propaganda purposes and doing exactly what white people and some other groups like the Japanese aren't allowed to do. Most heavily politicized, dogmatic and ideogical movies are bad. The goal is not 'the beauty of art', but to propagate an (hypocritical) ideology. 
  I know what kind of frankly boring and redundant responses I will receive for my position on this matter, but you should know that I really do not care. If you possess the ability to actually discuss a topic, then feel free to respond. Shrieks of me being racist will just glide off me as rain from a raincoat. >
  
  Wait wasn’t the entire point of the first black panther that they shouldn’t remain isolated? That was why it ended with them opening up to the world. Its meant to do the opposite of the thing you said >
  
  I can guarantee the guy you’re replying to hasn’t watch an BP movies. The villain of the first movie is literally a black supremacist lmao >
  
  He was talking about the second one. >
  
  That still doesn’t make his comment make sense >
  
  The first one wasnt either. It was barely mid tbh.
  We know why these movies are praised. >
  
  That's racist! /s >
  
  It will get best picture, best supporting actor, etc >
  
  It’s not nominated for best picture, nor best supporting actor. Angela Basset did get a best supporting actress nod though so that may be what you’re thinking of. After watching the movie I can say she may have a chance but I honestly want Stephanie Hsu to get it for EEAAO . >
  
  Both films are incredibly dull, dont know why they received such acclaim. >
  
  I thought that Captain America The Winter Soldier was a much better film, or Spider-Man 2, or Guardians of the Galaxy, not sure if any of them received Oscar Nominations . . . >
  
  I tell people this but you need to watch the movie in IMAX. It's way more enjoyable that way. >
  
  It was not, it was just boring on a bigger screen. >
  
  I’m sorry but I also thought the original BP was poor too. The fight on the trains near the end was a PS3 cut scene level of CGI and some of the dialogue was poor >
  
  Aren't those superhero movies for kids? >
  
  Just watched it a couple days ago, it’s boring. It’s not bad and it’s not good, it’s just 😑. Anybody who thinks it’s AMAZING either are kidding themselves or have awful taste. >
  
  Not unpopular.  Just factual. >
  
  They never should have moved forward with the movie after Chadwick passed. 
  Wakanda Forever was not good. >
  
  Agreed, was rubbish. Loads of the recent Marvel stuff is entirely forgettable nonsense. >
  
  Both black panther movies are mid >
  
  It shared an issue that Dark Knight Rises and Iron Man 3 shared... not enough of the main hero. >
  
  It's way too long, could easily be shortened down to 1h30 >
  
  When it comes to Marvel movies now, I have lost massive interest, all of them just seem so boring, the CGI contributing to that, it's all just gone downhill from Endgame if you ask me >
  
  Everything good about this movie is a result of Chadwick being dead. If he were just in this movie with this plot, it would be standard, boring marvel. And that’s a strange thing >
  
  I enjoyed Love and Thunder more than Wakanda Forever. I don't understand why Love and Thunder bombed but Wakanda Forever was lauded.
  There, I said it. >
  
  It was a terrible movie. Half the scenes at the start were too dark as well. I was shocked after looking up reviews to people saying it was great. The first one was 10 times better and even that was only an 8/10. >
  
  The first one sucked too. >
  
  Advantage - went in expecting complete trash >
  
  Really wished Chadwick Boseman would’ve reprised his character >
  
  I think he was just trying to hang on a long as possible >
  
  It was not a good movie, at all.  But for understandable reasons. Production was a mess.  The black panther actor literally died. Covid hit. The black Panthers sister was an antivaxer. Tons of edits and re-shoots. Etc etc.
  The movie was like three hours long and was clearly put together on the cutting room floor. >
  
  Watched it last night. Paused it multiple times and said to my kids...this sucks. >
  
  3hrs of my life I won’t get back. 
  So fucking rubbish. The only redeemable part was the underwater Mayans. 
  How did it get this bad? End game was fantastic, but it’s been steadily downhill since then. >
  
  It was shit. Some emotional parts though >
  
  I really liked the first one and its underlining real life theme: that African Americans and Africans deal with a very complicated relationship and history
  But what was the underlining real life theme on the sequel? Be aware of water mexicans?? >
  
  The pacing is so slow,  and I just don't care about any of the characters, especially the blue people. >
  
  It's just me or marvel lately has been releasing shit after shit? >
  
  Theories as to why it’s being praised up the ass:
  1.) it’s Marvel; the media shills for them like crazy. They always go on about how the latest marvel flick is like “the best movie ever” and they usually describe how they “clapped, cheered, laughed, cried” during it. It’s pure cringe. 
  2.) Don’t want to appear racist: this is imo more likely because since the first Black Panther was the first MCU movie to have a predominantly black cast, it and it’s sequel was praised up the ass even if they are both just ok movies at best.
  3.) death of Boseman: I’ve never seen any of his movies, including Black Panther but he was clearly beloved and Wakanda Forever (imo its a dumb name for a movie) was essentially a memorial to him from what I’ve gathered. >
  
  I thought it was super racist for the biggest marginalized group to finally meet another large marginalized group. Only to have them be awful people and then the proceed to use tech to kill Mayans….
  Like if you’re going to make a movie with race being a central part, why make it “justified if the Mayans were exterminated by the wakandan princess”.
  I think it wouldn’t be so representative if it were white v Latinos instead of black people decimating the Latinos by the end >
  
  I thought that was Namor's point, though. The Ocean Mayan's came to the Wakandans as they're the only other marginalized group with ready access to vibranium.
  I also felt like the Wakandans should have empathized and formed an alliance, considering the argument was, "Hey, you're the reason my people were ever discovered, so you owe us."  Instead, the Wakandans just went to war with these people. It definitely isn't a good look if you're trying to make the Wakandans look not-racist I guess. >
  
  
  Wakandans 
  
  are more protectionists than racists. 
  Like if the Blue Skinned people had been Black and OG from Africa, Wakanda would have still gone to war with them.
  The motivation of the war wasn't race, but resources.  Wakanda wanted to control access to a unique resource that was in high demand. >
  
  Exactly. Both movies were MEH. It's the  woke movement being like, oh its about black people so it's good no matter what. It's wasn't. >
  
  What does woke mean to you, and where did it hurt you? >
  
  It's ruining pop culture >
  
  Dunno man House of the Dragon was pretty good >
  
  So is The Last of Us. >
  
  Ah watch out the woke might get you watching that show! 
  I'd love to see all the "not-woke" movies that support these folks point because if Steven Seagal is anything to go by, non-progressive movies aren't exactly a rip-roaring success. >
  
  The whole movie felt like plastic food. >
  
  I mean still better than the crappy first one, the first appearance of the Talukan was actually excellent, like a PG horror movie, all the under water stuff was really well done actually.
  Shuri SHOULDN'T be the next BP though, lacks charm. M'baku should've take that place. >
  
  She lacks the depth in her acting that made Chadwick shine.  It’s very one note.
  Edit:  Lupita could do it justice. >
  
  Nakia's character even comes with an interesting hook: she's been a fighter most of her life and she does not agree with Wakandan tradition in a lot of respects, but she might feel bound to take up T'Challa's mantle out of love and to uphold the memory of how he wanted Wakanda to move forward. It even aligns with the conflict of Wakanda revealing themselves endangering Namor's people, because Nakia has to grapple with the repercussions of what she also wanted to happen. >
  
  I was disappointed too, which i think is because after the infinity saga they really haven't got much structure anymore with things happening all over the place. 
  It was the same with Multiverse of Madness, they could have made a good horrer type movie but in the end it just fell short.
  Coming back to BP2, my issues with it was that Namor and his army doesn't feels much of a threat. I was hoping they have some tech that would negate the wakandan tech but all they did was throw water bombs thingy. They had a translator, but I wish they explored more about their tech and how they have used vibranium to their benefit.
  He also mentions he has a very large army, i wanted to see something like the infinity war type of war, where one side overwhelms the other and both uses strategic plans to destroy the other. But they had some bad cgi iron man flying around, and even though both had vibranium, it wasn't used to have a big advantage, maybe they could have showed how the two nations used vibranium differently and made tech with it.
  Wakandan politics was also just touched upon, shuri being sent to bring Riri williams back with just okoye was also an issue, even if they didn't think namor would attack why did the queen sent her only daughter, since she knows the Americans are trying to neutralize their power.
  In the end, it was just not that good. >
  
  Movie felt rushed and the passion was gone. Even her taking over as black panther felt off and not right >
  
  Yeah. I think since they had to change the story because of Chadwick, the end result couldn't have been that good. >
  
  I realize the movie was fiction, but I find it very sad that people won't talk about how Africans enslaved other Africans and then sold them to passing ships.  I mean, how can you correct problems if you can't admit what they are?!!! >
  
  What do you mean people won't talk about it? Every conversation about slavery always has one guy popping up talking about how Africans had slaves too. We even get thought about slaves in Africa (in American schools APUSH specifically). >
  
  Every .. single.. one. Even when we were talking about a fictional movie.! >
  
  Fuck I agree with you
  Shit movie
  Hell video games these days have better stories and cutscenes 10x that of movies >
  
  I'll one up you.  I was pretty bored with Black Panther.   There were a few cool scenes but it was not my favorite of those type of movies by a long shot.    But it definitely felt like I should express that opinion out loud when talking to people.
  Society is weird man. >
  
  Neither was the first one. I've never had the courage to say that. The idea is good, but the acting is over the top and the visual effects are underwhelming. >
  
  I felt the first Black Panther was average at best. The second us below that. Maybe the hype just built it up too much for me but for me there are several much better films in the MCU >
  
  Everyone I know, including myself, found Wakanda Forever to be kind of shit. It was a good memorial for Chadwick, but not a good movie for the masses. We kept checking the time during the movie, hoping for it to be near the end, several times. That's how you know you got a boring movie.
  Fact that this is so upvoted says most people probably agree with you. Not an unpopular opinion at all. >
  
  Something that liberals won't ever get is that this kind of treatment of blacks or other minorities HURTS them more than it HELPS them. 
  A lot of good art made by black people in the future will seem like "woke/affirmative action art" and people will disregard it.
  Remember that horrible Black Is King Disney film? Well you probably don't remember seeing it but the title got a pass because some white liberals were like "oh you poor people need this to lift your spirits". The movie is shit and the name is shitty and racist. 
  What people need is honesty. >
  
  Oh I’m sorry Karen. Does it hurt you that I’m black 🙃 >
  
  I'm black too.. and a gay man. Are you a homophobic black woman? You can go ahead and do what my username says right now! >
  
  Sorry to see you didnt enjoy it, i found it a MASSIVE step up from the first in pretty much all aspects. >
  
  Demands were also being made that only blacks should get to see it opening weekend. That kind of racism is keeping me from ever watching it. >
  
  Demands from who? >
  
  Whiny leftist SJWs. >
  
  you sound really fragile >
  
  I just watched it last night for the first time. Crap and Boring sums it up quite nicely. >
  
  Neither Black Panther film represents the best of what Marvel has to offer, but we all know why they’re the ones being nominated for Oscars. >
  
  Black Panther movies are absolute dogshit. Just virtue signaling and playing the race card. Absolutely uninspired rubbish.
  Unfortunate, couldve been great movies given the source material... >
  
  How’s Black Panther virtue signaling do you even know the premise of the movie and why Stan Lee even created the character? These shitty dumb conservative tropes are getting old. >
  
  Everyone? I have heard more people talk about how bad it was than people actually enjoying it. >
  
  The first Black Panther was mediocre at best. I wouldn't expect the sequel to be better. >
  
  It's just pumped out Marvel garbage + white guilt. I wouldn't watch it unless someone paid me like $50. >
  
  You’re not wrong, but just remember that nothing is as good as everyone makes it out to be. We live in a world of constant, relentless hype where even something fairly mediocre (Game of Thrones, for example) is lauded as a work of genius by many. >
  
  Except my dog, she lives up to the hype. She’s perfect >
  
  Unpopular opinion… only reason BP was famous was because it was a black superhero… that’s literally it. It’s not like he’s crazy strong or crazy smart. He had the help of his sister to literally make everything for him. His “power” is just handed down to him through some trippy mushroom juice and gota huge BEAT down by someone else when he didn’t have the power. Just looks like a i black kid who can punch hard and jump high. 
  Just in case anyone was wondering. I’m African American with 2nd gen Nigerian native parents >
  
  It's a good story. You are projecting your own issues into it >
  
  Who said it was good >
  
  It was very weirdly paced and edited. >
  
  First one sucked, too. >
  
  Dialogue was Marvel-loremipsum at it's worst... >
  
  This movie was absolute trash. I fell asleep in the middle >
  
  Neither was the first one >
  
  I stopped marveling after the latest Thor. 
  Nothing about WF drew me in. 
  Marvel has jumped the shark. >
  
  If youre going to a Marvel movie looking to have a memorable experience, consider revaluating your expectations >
  
  It was terrible. It took over an hour to establish a plot. Everything seemed off from the graphics to the sound to even the acting wasn't quite right. The plot just happened everyone just moved forward in a very linear progression no real twists and turns in the movie and it just kinda p ended exactly as I thought it would.
  There was the one surprise that I loved, but that was it.
  Even the major battle was anticlimactic.
  Also, The Yucatan peninsula is not in the Northern Atlantic. >
  
  The first Black Panther wasn't great either, it just got loads of publicity because of BLM >
  
  Nope was just flat out awful. There is a political dimension to some of these films 
   It happens on the right as well.  Like almost everything these days much of what is out there serves as a litmus test to your philosophical loyalty. The rabid extremism on the left and right cause this. >
  
  Buzzword bingo in this comment lmfao >
  
  Most boring film of the year >
  
  Mcu been garbage for a few years now >
  
  I watched it last night, Three Funerals!  Not exactly what I'm looking for in an action movie. >
  
  The dad in Get Out would say Wakanda Forever was one of his favorite movies. >
  
  I think this is actually a popular opinion, but people are afraid of saying it >
  
  Who said it was good? You made that up yourself >
  
  Agreed. I fell asleep 20 minutes in. Tried again and turned it off after about 30-40 minutes. Just couldn’t get into it. It felt like producers just thought, “Blacks loved the first one, so let’s put out something just get more of their money; it’s okay if it’s shit, because they pay simply because it’s a Black film.”  I guarantee someone asked if Tyler Perry was too chubby to be the new Black Panther before they started writing the script. And that’s not me being racist; that’s simply pointing out an industry pandering to a certain demographic to milk them for every penny they can. >
  
  Not a surprise to me, since Black Panther wasn't that great either. I could not believe how racist it was.
  Government is decided by primogeniture or trials of strength? Puh-leeze. And all those cod-African accents. >
  
  Tony stark dies :" we won't forget his sacrifice "
  Black widow dies : " hulk sad" 
  Wakanda forever : 3 funerals to make sure this solo act is nearly as long as avengers endgame.
  3 funerals in one movie... jc >
  
  It was poorly written. The cgi was ass. The characters were too spread out so the development was too broad. They didn't really honor mbaku or killmonger or Chadwick. 
  They had to piece something together which I appreciate is difficult with a boseman shaped hole. But it was popular because it ticked the black Africa box. That was it. >
  
  So this person can say something is overrated but when I make a post about something being overrated my post gets removed. These mods are something else😂🤡 >
  
  The upvotes determine this. If your post gets attention rapidly enough then the subreddit rules get thrown out. >
  
  Oh that’s what determines it? My post got removed for “lazy post” because I said something is overrated and described why, but this person literally said something is overrated in different verbiage like wtf 😂 >
  
  Yeah I agree with you. Even the first one wasn't anything special. It's only popular because it has a lead cast of black people and that's a big deal for some reason. >
  
  I don't even think this seems to be the unpopular opinion. I personally think it was among the best that Marvel's put out >
  
  True >
  
  The first has the same complaints. Both pretty bad movies. If anything marvel has started to become movies where where you can just shut off your brain and for your kids to watch >
  
  MsheU strikes again >
  
  It sucked. People are afraid to say the emperor has no clothes. >
  
  Being called a colonizer is extremely offensive.  For that alone I'm glad I didn't pay to watch it. >
  
  You see? That’s your perception. That’s cool. Was it as good as the first one? Maybe not. Was it one of the best marvel movies? Maybe be not. But the favt that YOU didn’t like it doesn’t make it a bad movie.
  The movie was what I would call a tribute movie to an artist, while at the same time being a movie about family, AND an introductory movie. It introduces: mutants, introduces namor, introduces the baby princes, and many others, and it showcases how powerful yet fragile Wakanda. Remember the battle for the infinity stones took place in wakanda, and they lost, the battle against talokan was almost lost before it began. And yet, wakanda is the most powerful nation found in “the surface world”. That’s also part of the theme. Humanity think itself powerful, but we really aren’t. 
  It has nothing to do with race, as some have said. You just didn’t like it. And that’s fine. But to me, the movie was awesome.
  I watched it at the movies, and re-watched it at home. It was good, for sure better than chan-chi, the eternals, and Thor: love and thunder, it has been one of the better movies of phase 4, actually. >
  
  I liked the first movie. This one was alright. My problem was they filmed half of it with such Game of Thro es quality lighting that I could barely see what was happening in the first half