comment: >
  
  Are you French?  The French have always seemed, to me, to be pretty stubborn and independent when it comes to foreign policy.
context: Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact >
  
  An independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh >
  
  The American conservative model of democracy. >
  
  TLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that
  If the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.
  This warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.
  US Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog. >
  
  Hold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is >
  
  Yes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.
  The current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas. >
  
  Otzma Yehudit 
  
  Otzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.
  
  ^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5) >
  
  Netanyahu giving off big Putin vibes. >
  
  There ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist . >
  
  But did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED. >
  
  Would you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it? >
  
  As an Israeli myself  , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him .  He should've boycotted him and other members of his government . >
  
  If Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.” >
  
  You thought it was a democracy before? >
  
  Explain how it wasn't >
  
  It's an apartheid state >
  
  Forst of all, nothing to do with democracy.
  All Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.
  Second of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens? >
  
  All south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.
  This is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.
  Gaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. >
  
  
  Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. 
  
  Not true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. 
  
  How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years 
  
  They don't. 
  Unless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. 
  
  who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years 
  
  And the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. 
  The reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. 
  
  Gaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. 
  
  Considering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. 
  And Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. 
  Even Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. 
  But as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel. >
  
  They have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. 
  Why should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?
  What rights does an Israeli have in Palastine? >
  
  Israel doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though. >
  
  It's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!! >
  
  So you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking >
  
  Are we talking about America or...? >
  
  Touché mon ami >
  
  According to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies. >
  
  Why is Macron being so antisemitic? /s >
  
  Do they have the same problem with their big ally, Qatar?
  Edit. Aah yes, can’t show hypocrisy on reddit anymore. We must hate Israel but put our head in the sand when we talking about other middle eastern countries. >
  
  Qatar doesn't pretend to be a democracy. >
  
  So it’s okay then? Nice logic >
  
  Yes. You would be hostile to all non democracies? That's cute. I thought along those lines when I was a child. >
  
  Complaining that Israel will not be a democracy when you are trading billions of arms with Qatar is stupid. This just shows that Macron is virtue signaling. >
  
  So you have no problems with Israel not being a democracy? I don't think France would stop relations with Israel even if it wasn't, so I don't see your point, he's just criticising a democratic country doing undemocratic things, that's all. It doesn't really apply to Qatar >
  
  Says the guy that has zero problems with Qatar. Israel is a democracy, the changes in the law are not passed yet, you would know if you read the headline.
  Imagine that you would publicly complain about one of your friend is drinking a bit more than previously while going out for drinks with another friend that already is an alcoholic. >
  
  It's Israel, not Isreal. >
  
  I think Ilhan Omar was right >
  
  Good to see world leaders calling this out. >
  
  you seriously think that Macron is genuinely trying to call him out.
  Macron is spineless and absolutely don't care about the internal policy of Israel
  he's a bank employee with became president. only the money matter >
  
  Do you think Macron should try to convince the US to freeze military aid to Israel because of this? >
  
  a servant never ask his master to do anything.
  it as clear rule into politics.
  Israel trade directly with US at the higher level of the democratic body, then be sure that the sound of Macron will be covered by the laugh of the Israeli lobbyists