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  Everything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot
context: You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness. >
  
  Magic you say? Pick a card. >
  
  I don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman. >
  
  I'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored >
  
  
  but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.
  
  Dude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics. >
  
  
  Dude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite
  
  As a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me. >
  
  
  you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.
  
  Why? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic? >
  
  It was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. 
  About the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion. >
  
  Nah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me "Comic book guy" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time. >
  
  Like everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.
  
  with only one real weakness 
  
  Post-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation.  Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave
  On a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.
  
  the same four characters
  
  Luthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others. >
  
  "inability to do everything" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone >
  
  He hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.
  Stop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is >
  
  Even at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour >
  
  Again, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive >
  
  less than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting. >
  
  
  less than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum
  
  Again. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s >
  
  Alrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment