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  Immediate cutoff of access and speed of notice is the way. It is humane and gets rid of uncertainty. Whiners will always whine about the hows of it.
context: "his call was disconnected while he was on a call with a potential candidate...he tried to log in to an internal company website...but failed to do so. Other members of his team also complained about getting logged out of their systems. Their manager dismissed the concern as a technical issue until they were informed about the layoff via an email. " >
  
  Technical concern...technically you don't work here >
  
  We corrected the issue with payroll.
  Did you tell him?
  Uh, we just said we corrected the issue with payroll. We find these things sort themselves out. >
  
  I work in the oil and gas industry, they’re basically massive layoff pros. You never give a heads up. Usually, by the time layoffs are announced to shareholders, they’re already done.
  That said, I’ve never heard of laying folks off via email. That’s pretty lame and disrespectful.  I suppose if folks are working 100% remotely it’s hard to find a different option, though. >
  
  I had a remote job and the day before it they sent an email to a specific group of like 50 of us, telling us to be in the office and be sure to bring our laptops.
  We 100% knew it was a layoff. We made plans the night before to have drinks at a bar that opened at 11am.
  Layoffs started at noon. I was like the 3rd person timing wise, when I walked into the bar there was a shot waiting for me.
  We did the same for everyone who walked in, just had a shot waiting.
  It worked out pretty well, it gave us time to exchange info, commiserate etc >
  
  Yeah, often word gets around. Maybe they had cuts in operations the week before so we’re all expecting R&E next etc.   In 2015 my HR department had a huge delivery of cardboard boxes show up at the lobby a couple days before.
  In the EU I think there are some rules that employees have to be given sufficient notice that they could potentially be cut.  Often the EU centers would skip some layoff cycles because it was a hassle, but when they did have layoffs there it was always really big cuts because they didn’t want to do it twice. >
  
  A colleague at Google during the lay offs found out their mental health coach was laid off too when they didn’t show up to a meeting. 
  They straight dissolved the mental health team during these times. >
  
  Quite incredible they had one really, they must have been bleeding money with all these little benefits. It’s one of the first things it would make sense to outsource. >
  
  I guess someone has to blame worker benefits for a company financial struggles.  
  Maybe we should just be fucking slaves how bout it. >
  
  The whole point of my comment was that you can still provide these benefits without the need for an in-house counselling team. They overhired during the pandemic and now they have to trim off the fat. 
  Put down the torches and red flags and read, Reddit. >
  
  If I had a torch you would know it....
  Regardless of the point of your comment, the context implies that the company was overspending on their employees instead of overpaying their executives. The reality is that cutting workers benefits is a cheap, dickless move by out-of-touch corporates that refuse to take a pay cut to address real issues.  
  And no, just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean you are in any way under attack. >
  
  What? My comment implies that it would have been a better idea not to hire directly their counselling. I assume their high ranking employees also receive company cars, would it make sense for Google to start manufacturing its own cars? Ad absurdum, but it’s an example. 
  Don’t get triggered and learn to read. >
  
  Thank you for your advisement that I learn to read, what a mature approach to what should have been a mature discussion.  
  You keep certain things in-house to maintain quality control.  You outsource things that you don't care too much about, but still have to get done.  Your school doesn't outsource the school nurse to the hospital because they are expected to be able to provide a reasonable level of care in-situ.  
  Don't accuse people of being "triggered" for disagreeing with you, it makes you sound like a hitler-youth. >
  
  You could have said that in the first place instead of barking at me. One could argue that the quality control on mental counselling (assuming the Google leadership is qualified for that, or maybe they had hired someone for that as well) is not the top priority when you need to trim some fat in a possible recession - and it seems like Google’s management agrees with me if the other user is to be believed and they started firing them too. A service that provides mental counselling as its own business is probably more qualified than a tech company at ensuring high quality - I doubt Google also grows its own vegetable to ensure their are all GMO-free and organic, but you never know. >
  
  I could not figure out what the article title.
  FTFY
  Google HR Rep terminated in the middle of a candidate interview. >
  
  I get that layoffs happen all the time, but shouldn't they be given notice first? >
  
  
  I get that layoffs happen all the time, but shouldn't they be given notice first?
  
  If everyone acted respectfully and ethically yeah but in reality within the US, companies are worried that employees will retaliate (like deleting company files/programs, destroying/steeling property, damaging reputation with clients).
  Always keep an eye out to the pains the company complains about and things that negatively impact it.  Keep an eye out for better options before you need it.  Companies want you to give them 2 weeks notice but are often willing to terminate you on the spot. >
  
  When I give a two week notice, I'm doing that for myself, not for the company. Having two weeks to get things in order before a new job isn't a bad idea. 
  But remember, give that two weeks for yourself, not for the good of your company. >
  
  
  When I give a two week notice, I'm doing that for myself, not for the company. Having two weeks to get things in order before a new job isn't a bad idea.  
  But remember, give that two weeks for yourself, not for the good of your company.
  
  In a good company, giving notice is a good thing as it gives everyone the heads up that there's about to be a change and they have a bit of time to set things in order.  It's best practice to have something lined up before quitting your current job is good for you.  Also helps for references later.
  I've unfortunately had a supervisor tell me that someone gave them their 2 weeks and they said "thanks, this is effective immediately.  Bye."  Being I didn't speak to the then terminated person after they gave notice, I don't know how accurate that was but it puts me on guard. >
  
  This happened at my current job. The thing is, I have seen multiple other people give two week notices no problem, but this one lady they just let go at the end of the day. The worst part was how mean her bushland was about it. She called him to tell him and he just yelled at her that she was stupid for giving the two week notice. Fuck, according to her, he made good money, so her being without a pay check for a few weeks shouldn't destroy them financially. >
  
  What's a bushland? >
  
  Autocorrect does fun things sometimes. >
  
  Does this mean they'll be selling all the massage tables and beer filled fridges from the break room? >
  
  No, the sales guy who would have done that has been laid off. >
  
  This article can use some editing. There are so many silly little errors. >
  
  „Don’t be evil” >
  
  They removed that years ago.  Imagine being so evil you feel the need to remove "Don't be evil" from your motto.  If they were only planning to be slightly evil or questionably evil they could have just left that in but they felt they were going to be so evil they had to remove it because they wouldn't even be able to pretend they weren't evil and thought their army of lawyers couldn't even defend that they weren't so they had to get rid of it. >
  
  New motto is just be evil. >
  
  Layoffs are the new pandemic >
  
  I get firing people suddenly, but this whole thing has been just ridiculous. For everyone left, it really shows just how little the company cares. >
  
  This is news to you?