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  Wouldn't be the first time we did.
context: One thing that stood out to me was how much Germany's gas consumption dropped in 2022:
  
  According to Bundesnetzagentur, Germany’s natural gas consumption dropped by 14% in 2022 compared to the average consumption for the past four years. Industrial demand fell by 15% compared to the average for the past four years. Between October and December, industrial gas consumption fell by 23%, and consumption by private consumers and businesses was 21% below the previous years. >
  
  German here, gas was just way too expensive for me this year, so we had to adapt... for my money's sake >
  
  How did you adapt? >
  
  Using less heating >
  
  As a Norwegian having visited most of Europe I'm amazed at the lack of modern climate adaption in houses. 
  Hopefully this will be a driver for Europe to modernize housing to enter the 21st century. >
  
  its almost impossible to get a heatpump installed right now or solar because the waiting list is so long (in germany).
  labor to install them and materials are scarce because the demand exploded. >
  
  Better insulation and windows is another thing. Will reduce energy needs both winter and summer. >
  
  As he said, labour rates are exploding. Unless you know how to change windows. >
  
  I do! I'll do it! ... For money >
  
  Specifically, Blemflarcks >
  
  Define Irony leveraging Gas to make Europe fall in line. Europe starts not only buying gas from other sources but also starting to decrease gas consumption! >
  
  Decreasing gas consumption to save the environment, Great!  
  Decreasing because people can't afford it and just chose to freeze instead? Not so great. >
  
  People aren't going to freeze if they could afford heating earlier.
  They might be chilly since the thermostat might not be set to 22, but freezing? Nah. >
  
  22? Tf? I'm in the US and I'm at 19C. 
  From what they've told me, they're at 17. They'd go lower but they have young kids. Our heating bill is $200 a month, in the US. Our house is in Manhattan, 700sq ft. >
  
  I just looked up the average thermostat temp and it was 20-22.
  shrug
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  Nothing meant by that number. >
  
  Yeah, we used to do 21C. But saving money sucks ig. I'm just pointing out, even a $100-$200 increase a month is a LOT for a good 50% of people. >
  
  Some of it is conservation but likely a good chunk of that is warmer weather. Industrial demand tends to be baseload and residential driven almost purely by weather >
  
  I’ve barely used my heating but yes, weather is a part of that but I and everybody I know also tries to reduce consumption. I’m wearing a sweater instead etc… 
  Just being less wasteful goes a long way already. >
  
  If we really needed a full scale war in Europe before people put on sweaters in winter, I don't want to know what we'll need to win the fight against climate change. >
  
  Do people in the colder parts of Europe not wear warm clothes inside during cold weather? That cant be true...
  Living in the parts of NA where winter is a season, warm weather clothing indoors is quite literally a must. Especially for poorer households. >
  
  Well, I wear shorts and a t-shirt when I'm inside all year around.
  But I have no control over the heating, I live in a apartment building and everyone have the same temperature, which is around 20C. >
  
  The gas weapon always was a blunt sword. Russia could use it exactly once. They will never again have any significant share of energy exports towards Europe.
  Not even in an all democratic post Putin area.
  They played the card, we called and they went down on the River >
  
  Well, there is always the scarier threat. Russia could threaten to invade these fledgling countries and crush all of europe with their mighty army and fifth generation planes! >
  
  They could threaten to use nukes, for like the 50th time. >
  
  I thought they'd already reached that milestone in the first few weeks of their invasion? >
  
  Putin has succeeded in moving europe off Russian gas and then also slashing demand for fossil fuels. A win for us all, and a big loss for him. What a moron. >
  
  Putin is doing more for NATO/the climate than anyone ever could, and fast too >
  
  Anyone remember that one show where Norway got invaded? Didn't get to finish it, if anyone remembers the title tell me please.
  Edit: thanks everyone that reminded me of the title, I have to finish it now, I actually liked it, don't know why I stopped watching it >
  
  Great show! It's about a stealth invasion and occupation of Norway by unmarked Russian soldiers, for those that don't know it.
  Was there ever a season 2? The last thing I remember was the Norwegian resistance getting organized in the forest. That cliffhanger has been hanging for the last 10 years... >
  
  Oh yeah dude there's 3 seasons it's all on Netflix. >
  
  
  it's all on Netflix.
  
  Not in Germany :( >
  
  VPN my dude >
  
  Thanks Norway! >
  
  Unless Norway invades Sweden!....
  This all a plot by the Norwegians to make Europe dependent on gas so they can invade Sweden !!! A war to settle all Nordic wars!
  /Jk >
  
  It's retribution after Danish and Swedish ruling and the invasion from Germany. The Roman Catholics are next.
  /Jk ofc >
  
  Heheh ja, vi bare tuller selvfølgelig >
  
  Självklart… 🤨 Ni vet var vi finns, söte lillebror. Kom bara. >
  
  Vi vil ikke ha Sverige 🤪 >
  
  Tänk på allt billigt kött! Inga fler bussresor över gränsen för bacon >
  
  Men det er jo grensen som gjør det så billig. Nei til EU! Vi må kunne harryhandle! >
  
  Remember when the Russia bots were all like "Winter is coming. Europe is going to freeze to death. They are killing their own people." So on and so on?
  Yeah, go fuck yourselves. >
  
  I've never seen anyone with as little self awareness and so many failed predictions as Russian shills. My favourite remains how they were telling everyone to "never underestimate your enemy" before the war started. >
  
  "Our models predicted half of all Europeans will freeze to death after passing out in the outhouse in vodka induced stupors without Russian gas and wall carpet insulation to heat back up again. No idea why our predictions failed, must've been aliens or nazis or something!" >
  
  If Norway really has enough to sell to replace Russia, I'm sure Germany and other central European countries will help invest in pipeline projects eventually. >
  
  its 23% of the eu+uk demand for gas, russia is at 31%, however, only 40% of our natural gas resources are being produced.
  So outside of a shipping problem, and some political squabble to build more oil platforms to extract gas and oil, it's fully doable, yes. >
  
  Should have happened a long time ago.  Norway is a far more politically and ideologically stable partner. >
  
  Norway rocks! >
  
  Fuck, now Norway is going to invade England.