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  Maybe Obama declassified them by thinking about it. I mean, that's the established bar now.
context: The media is going to do everything they can to make 2024 "the closest presidential race ever" - again. >
  
  And they don't care about the consequences >
  
  Actually they do. They want the President who will cause the most drama, who will generate the most stories they can report on. Major cable news companies like CNN loved that trump got elected. They could constantly report on the shit he did while condemning him for it, all while more and more people tuned in. >
  
  And that’s it isn’t it? The American people won’t have freedom lest they come to realize this two party autocracy needs to be put to rest >
  
  Never mind the fact that the term two party autocracy is an oxymoron, out government is in no way an autocracy. It has an awful lot of problems sure, but saying it’s run by a single, all powerful leader is just flat out false. >
  
  When in our country’s history has any other party besides republicans and democrats have held a majority in the White House >
  
  Same documents. Exact page count provided. The bad reporting on this has been insane. >
  
  Media outlets were used to making money off of the Trump administration. Every day offered a controversy more extreme than the next. (I'm sure I wasn't the only one who bought a Washington Post subscription for the 5 o'clock news drops.)
  Comparatively, the Biden administration has been boring in that they get shit done (e.g., 2021 and 2022 accomplishments) without causing controversy. Compared to Trump refusing to return over 300 classified documents, this story about roughly 20 documents that were promptly returned upon discovery is apples to oranges. >
  
  
  the Biden administration has been boring
  
  Seriously?  2.5 million have crossed the border.  That's the equivalent to the population of Houston. There have been 180,000 fentanyl deaths mostly caused by Mexican cartels at the border.
  People have had a hard time finding baby formula.  Food prices are through the roof.  Afghanistan was a complete disaster leaving the terrorists in control of the country.  Girls in Afghanistan can't even attend secondary school.
  Homelessness is on the rise.  Interest rate increases have made buying a home more difficult.  And rents have increased 12% since Biden took office.
  It's only "boring" if you've had your head in the sand. >
  
  Can you explain exactly how illegal immigration is a bad thing, especially considering population/workforce trends? >
  
  There have been 180,000 fentanyl deaths mostly caused by Mexican cartels at the border. >
  
  Can you expand on how that is relevant to the average illegal immigrant crossing the border to work in the US? >
  
  We’re never going to hear the fucking end of this ugh >
  
  I'm in a super conservative area and everybody thinks I'm a democrat because I'm not a republican. They've been coming out of the woodwork thinking they can shove it in my face and have some gotcha moment...
  I tell them "Did the guy commit a crime? Put him on trial. Nobody should be immune from the law." Then they act all sad because they didn't get the reaction they wanted.
  I think it's actually a good opportunity to agree, across party lines, that our elected officials should not only be held accountable for their actions, they should be setting a good example. I think we are all tired of the "rules for thee, not for me" bullshit that a certain group seems to enjoy. >
  
  A more complete timeline of Biden documents — when and where they were discovered, and what was done with them — provided by the president’s attorney, Bob Bauer.
  TLDR: They handled it properly
  Nov. 2, 2022 - The President's personal attorneys unexpectedly discovered Obama-Biden documents at the Penn Biden Center. Consistent with statutory requirements, the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) was notified of the discovery. For the following eight days, the President's personal attorneys were in regular contact with NARA and anticipated that NARA would notify the Department of Justice (DOJ), and that DOJ would notify the President's personal attorneys of next steps and the point of contact.
  Nov. 3, 2022 - NARA informed the NARA Inspector General.
  Nov. 4, 2022 -  As stated by the Attorney General, the NARA Inspector General informed DOJ.
  Nov. 9, 2022 - As stated by the Attorney General, DOJ launched an assessment to understand whether documents were mishandled.
  Nov. 10, 2022 - DOJ informed the President's personal attorneys that it had launched the assessment. Once the President's personal
  attorneys heard from DOJ, the President's personal attorneys were in regular contact with DOJ.
  Nov. 14, 2022 - As he stated, the Attorney General assigned US Attorney Lausch to oversee the assessment.
  Dec. 20, 2022 - The President's personal attorneys inspected the Wilmington residence garage and identified a small number of potential records bearing classified markings. Once the President's personal attorneys identified these documents, they stopped their search and informed US Attorney Lausch of the documents found there.
  Dec. 21, 2022 - The President's personal attorneys arranged for DOJ to take possession of, and DOJ did take possession of, the records located in the Wilmington residence garage.
  January 5, 2023 - As stated by the Attorney General, US Attorney Lausch issued an initial report and recommendation to the Attorney General.
  January 11, 2023 - The President's personal attorneys searched the Wilmington and Rehoboth Beach residences for additional records. The President's personal attorneys located a potential record bearing classified markings at the Wilmington residence, among stored materials inside a room adjacent to the garage. Once the President's personal attorneys found this document, the President's personal attorneys left the document where it was found and suspended their search of the specific space where it was located. Following the search at the Wilmington residence, the attorneys proceeded to the Rehoboth residence and conducted a search there. No potential records were identified at the Rehoboth Beach residence, and the attorneys returned to Washington, D.C. late in the evening.
  January 12, 2023 - The President's personal attorneys, that morning, informed US Attorney Lausch that they had found additional material bearing classified markings at the Wilmington residence, inside the room adjacent to the garage. The President's personal attorneys began the process of arranging for the delivery of that material to DOJ. The Attorney General announced the appointment of Special Counsel Robert K. Hur to conduct an investigation. >
  
  No matter how much you keep spamming this, there is nothing "proper" about this. >
  
  1) This isn't spam, it's important information to further the discussion
  2) Based on this timeline and fact pattern which part do you believe was not handled properly? >
  
  
  Based on this timeline and fact pattern which part do you believe was not handled properly?
  
  How does one 'properly' end up with classified documents in their garage?
  I don't think anyone is arguing that he's improperly handled the documents after them being discovered. But it seems like you're ignoring that it was improper for him to still have them in the first place. >
  
  I don't think that you understand how much stupid bullshit is marked as "classified".  Daily schedules.  Personal correspondence received from ambassadors or foreign dignitaries. Daily briefing material that doesn't even contain any sensitive intelligence information.  On any given day, the Vice President and his staff were likely handed dozens of documents marked as classified, mixed in with hundreds of documents that weren't classified.  I would be willing to bet that the vast majority of Congressional and Executive personnel have some quantity of classified materials that have ended up forgotten in a box somewhere for longer than they should have.  Think about the number of times that you personally have accidentally misplaced important documents or mail.  The only reason why this is even news is because something similar happened with Trump and it took the FBI raiding his house to get him to turn over the documents despite months of requests and waiting for him to just do the right thing. >
  
  Yes, I'm fully aware that there is a bunch of stupid bullshit marked as classified. But we really don't know what this particular instance contained do we?
  If that's the case they shouldn't be marked classified, but that's an entirely separate matter. I just hate the idea of moving the goalposts on this issue. Are there different requirements for the handling of the 'bullshit' classified documents? If there's not, I don't see how this point is relevant
  
  Think about the number of times that you personally have accidentally misplaced important documents or mail.
  
  I don't think comparing the mail of ordinary people to classified documents is an appropriate conversation, as they are entirely different. >
  
  It is human nature to get complacent when dealing with something every day.  People get distracted or busy.  Innocent mistakes are made.  To someone like the Vice President, dealing with thousands of classified documents, with barely enough time to even look at all of the information being handed to you every day, let alone try to consider what you do with it all at any given moment, then it would be exactly like "the mail of ordinary people" at certain inopportune moments in time.  That is just practical reality.  The important thing is that government officials take decisive action to correct the errors when they discover that they have occurred, and try to follow procedures to minimize the number of errors that occur.  Expecting perfection is just unreasonable. >
  
  Really disappointed in the media for not being upfront about things and trying to blow this out of proportion. It should be investigated but this is getting out of hand >
  
  He broke the law you want them to not cover it? He is going go be impeached over it and hopefully sharing a jail cell with the orange turd for the same thing. >
  
  What law did he break?
  
  The criteria for prosecuting people who improperly handle classified documents are clear: Prosecutors must prove a person deliberately flouted rules for how to store the material securely, while knowing it was classified or secret national defense information >
  
  I was arrested for marijuana possession with a over an ounce about 12 years ago.
  And was charged and convicted of Intent to sell even though I just smoke. 
  So how does someone have no intent to keep documents that they took? Lol RorB both jokes >
  
  Because thats how the DOJ works. They dont indict unless they have proof the documents were taken willfully. And in the corner of his garage does not fit the definition of "in his possession". Because its not an area he often visited so thats reasonable doubt. 
  They would need to find communication about him asking to take the documents or find more in an area that he personally visited regularly. >
  
  They are above the law because they have money.
  If they were stuck with a shitty public defender they would charge them.
  Just like irs goes after the small guy because its easy.
  I dont get the benefit of doubt so they don't(Any Politician) they would charge my ass >
  
  How do you convict someone of having something without proof they knew they had it in the first place? >
  
  I don't know if I believe them or Biden. He didn't know 
  Me personally don't want him charged or even compared to Trump. But I would be charged is my point 
  But I hate the excuses the Democrats are giving him. You really believe Biden is dummy who just didn't know.
  EDIT- I cant talk to most Republicans about anything because everything is someone else's fault has been that way for like 20 years.
  Democrats(at least on reddit) are/have become the same way (Russians, Secret Service set him up, Old Magoo didn't know what was packed) >
  
  Hes not a dummy. Most likely his aides packed the boxes and put a few documents in them by accidents. Things happen. And they put it somewhere he rarely visit so he had no reason to know >
  
  I kinda understand that 
  but I hate it hey people stop packing up things that are not yours or not needed. 
  Recycle that stuff already.
  But as said earlier I've become so jaded we the people don't get the benefit of doubt from the police or justice system(raid our place break everything you own find nothing and say oops and dont pay for anything broken).
  And then you ask me believe politicians at there word especially one who has been in government since the 60's.
  And Biden helped write some awful crime bills that just assumed the worst of people >
  
  Trump would've blamed Obama. >
  
  Obama would have blamed Bush. >
  
  Does not make sense, so your telling me that they haven't even known those documents were missing for the last 6 years or so? >
  
  Yes NARA wasn't aware they were missing. Also this is still the second batch. They've provided us an exact page count is all. >
  
  Sounds like NARA isn't doing its job! >
  
  Nara absolutely needs a better system and more staff it seems, yes. >
  
  Wait till they search the White House. >
  
  The house is going to impeach Biden for this.  That much is guaranteed. >
  
  The house doesn't care what they were going to impeach Biden for tbf >
  
  Oh of course.  I fully expect every President for the foreseeable future be impeached for something the second he or she doesn’t have their party in control of the house. >
  
  What's your basis for that expectation? >
  
  C’mon man… >
  
  Biden needs to announce he won't run for re-election.  He is becoming an embarrassment >
  
  Very true. >
  
  The VP shouldn't have classified documents at his home. He's not president. >
  
  His aides packed a few documents by accident and Biden didnt know he had them. Thats why they warned the National Archive as soon as they found them. >
  
  Just to make sure I understand - Are you suggesting it’s okay that Biden gave his aides access to classified docs and had them move them from one location to another? >
  
  They already had access to it. They were just daily briefing and call notes. There is no indication that it was anything particularly sensitive >
  
  Impressive you know that before the investigation is done >
  
  You dont need an investigation to know what aides do. And based on the low number of documents and where they were stored its pretty obvious what happened >
  
  Why the investigation then? >
  
  DOJ already did the investigation in the last 2 months. They interviewed all the people involved. They appointed a special counsel because they cant say hes innocent without looking like they are protecting their boss
  The special counsel is gonna do its due diligence and make sure nothing nefarious happened but looking at the facts we have so far it unlikely anyone get indicted over it >
  
  What you’re describing would be the use of taxpayer dollars to launch a sham special counsel that serves the sole purpose of politically benefitting the president from an optics perspective. >
  
  No its the opposite
  If the DOJ found he didnt violate the law and publicly say it people are gonna say they are covering up something even if they are not. Its a conflict of interest
  The Special counsel remove any bias. It will do its own investigation and based on fact we know now its highly likely it wont find any crime either 
  Unless they find proof Biden asked to take the documents >
  
  Can I remind everyone that Bernie should have won. >
  
  O…h…..n….o >
  
  WTF Biden. You have an army of lackies at your command and don't send them to check for stuff when you see Trump being in trouble for it? How can one be so careless? >
  
  They did check, and they found some.  Then they reported it and returned them.  This is the story. >
  
  You forgot the part of the story were sensitive classified documents were floating around unprotected for years. >
  
  You’ll never ‘whatabout’ this away.  There’s a similarity of about 0.001% >
  
  I didn't whatabout anything. I made no comparisons. This is insane on its own. >
  
  one important thing the different places Biden's documents are being found have in common - THEY AREN'T MAR A LAGO >
  
  I mean, they're private residences. >
  
  His aides packed a few daily briefing by accident when leaving the WH and put them into his garage and office locker room and he never knew they were there. >
  
  Source on any of that? >
  
  Drip drip drip.  Let me know when the faucet stops dripping. >
  
  Its not a drip. They just updated one document page count. Thats it >
  
  Biden doesn’t know where he himself is at times let’s be honest. Sure Trump was a jerk. Biden is not coherent enough to be the US President >
  
  Maybe he should take a cognitive test, since they're apparently easy to pass. Just ask the former president. >
  
  When MSNBC turns on you, it's time to primary your ass. Just been one unforced error after another. The narrative has gotten so far away from them that there's really no choice but to drop the investigation into Trump. >
  
  CNBC isn’t MSNBC. >
  
  He's cooperating because he already made copies and sold them to foreign powers. >
  
  Lol lol must of confused Biden with Trump >
  
  The amount of people defending this senile POS is pathetic >
  
  Right wing media just loves this shit. >
  
  The drip drip drip news cycle is going to hurt Biden politically. >
  
  They found documents in the medicine cabinet