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  What does this have to do with anyone's age?
context: I don’t understand, and I’m asking this question sincerely, why this is happening? Why isn’t there some sort of “check out “ system for these docs? Especially now that we have bar-coded data systems.
  When I transferred from schools where I was working to another school, if I couldn’t find a book (or something else) I had checked out ANYTIME, literally years before, I had to pay for it. 
  WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE? Why can’t they just follow the rules like everyone else?
  I know these two cases aren’t the same thing. It’s just frustrating and ridiculous. >
  
  Why are there so many stories about overdue library books returned decades later? Same reason.
  But in this case, the people in charge of going through old office stuff found docs and reported it, as per procedure. And people are jumping all over it because Trump. >
  
  “Why are there so many stories about overdue library books returned decades later? Same reason.“
  Okay. So is the idea that whoever keeps the records: A) Doesn’t know Top Secret information/records are missing. B) Knew Top Secret information/records was missing, and didn’t inform Joe Biden (VP staff/administrators) for 6 years. C) Joe Biden (VP staff/administrators) knew and didn’t take action. 
  I can’t think of another scenario where this can occur, and all of those are frightening. >
  
  There is no indication yet that these documents had top secret or equivalent classification. There are multiple levels of classification, and the full picture will be known since the administration has been cooperating with the DoJ.
  And you forgot option D) there is a process to be followed if documents are discovered, and it is being followed >
  
  Just another hilariously false equivalent we get to hear about for years, haha.
  For the record, the main issue with the Trump documents wasn't the POSESSION of them. It was the lying to the FBI over and over and obstructing the investigation. They had to RAID HIS HOUSE AND OFFICES to get the documents back. 
  But none of that matters, I guess. People wouldn't be conservative if they weren't already stupid. Going to be fun to hear about more Liberal Hypocrisy(tm). >
  
  Why can’t both instances of mishandling classified documents be looked at bad instead of everyone running to circle the wagons around their particular party? >
  
  Because they aren't the same actions by any objective standard. >
  
  One can be worse, while both still remain bad. >
  
  But if something is worse that's an important distinction >
  
  At least we agree that the actions of both men were poor. >
  
  I mean we agree classified documents were mishandled. In Biden's case they are still looking into the chain of custody. >
  
  Yes; & if it shows his actions brought them to an insecure location hopefully the justice departments brings the hammer down on both so such nonsense doesn’t happen in the future. Hopefully they weren’t shared with others either. >
  
  He probably never even touched the box it was transported in. What Biden does has no proof of any illegality so far. Numerous observers have said as much. >
  
  Why ‘probably?’ - what inside information do you have? >
  
  I get accidents happen but why’s it happening over such an extended period? Like dude hire a maid and find this shit 😂 >
  
  The news is bored. Joe is boring (the way I like him) so making a big deal over something that the white house is freely letting us know is happening is in No way the same as Trumps issues. >
  
  These stories are doing more harm than good. It’s not really new info, it was found in the same place and clearly they didn’t sweep it properly when they found the first set in the house >
  
  More harm then good? It’s legitimate information to update the amount of documents found. It’s not looking good. >
  
  
  It's not looking good
  
  Lol I guess you know exactly which documents they were?  With Trump, we know he had SCIF documents which strongly implies he secreted them out of the white house - those would not be allowed to leave a locked, guarded room.
  Trump had hundreds of documents. Biden had a few dozen.
  Trump obstructed when the investigation began, Biden has cooperated.
  One of these scenarios looks FAR better than the other.  These are not equal situations. >
  
  I’m not the one comparing them to trump - I’m speaking strictly for this individual situation. No politician should be caught with classified documents. That’s why there’s laws in place regarding it lmao. Trump or not, keeping classified documents in your home is not only negligence, it’s obvious wrongdoing. >
  
  
  it's obvious wrongdoing
  
  This is categorically false...The National archives allow those with a security clearance to check out documents which arent in the highest security classifications, people can and do take them home. >
  
  And the reason they launched an investigation is because these documents are from before he was President or had the proper security clearance.
  People don’t just take home classified security documents like you’re saying, casually. Lmao >
  
  This is also categorically false - the documents date from when Biden was vice president under Obama.
  The investigation is to ensure the chain of custody was maintained and also toninderstand why the national archives didn't request them back. >
  
  You don’t keep that clearance after you’re VP lol. That’s the problem. >
  
  That's not exactly true - officials can and do retain clearances after they leave office on an individual basis.
  The issue here isn't him having access to classified documents when he was no longer VP, its whether the chain of custody was maintained and how the national archives went so long without seeking these documents.
  You seriously don't know shit about how security clearances work. >
  
  Presidents and vice presidents do not retain those clearances. You’re trying to run this in circles when it’s pretty clear, but the key here is intent and handling. >
  
  A more complete timeline of Biden documents — when and where they were discovered, and what was done with them — provided by the president’s attorney, Bob Bauer.
  TLDR: They handled it properly
  Nov. 2, 2022 - The President's personal attorneys unexpectedly discovered Obama-Biden documents at the Penn Biden Center. Consistent with statutory requirements, the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) was notified of the discovery. For the following eight days, the President's personal attorneys were in regular contact with NARA and anticipated that NARA would notify the Department of Justice (DOJ), and that DOJ would notify the President's personal attorneys of next steps and the point of contact.
  Nov. 3, 2022 - NARA informed the NARA Inspector General.
  Nov. 4, 2022 -  As stated by the Attorney General, the NARA Inspector General informed DOJ.
  Nov. 9, 2022 - As stated by the Attorney General, DOJ launched an assessment to understand whether documents were mishandled.
  Nov. 10, 2022 - DOJ informed the President's personal attorneys that it had launched the assessment. Once the President's personal
  attorneys heard from DOJ, the President's personal attorneys were in regular contact with DOJ.
  Nov. 14, 2022 - As he stated, the Attorney General assigned US Attorney Lausch to oversee the assessment.
  Dec. 20, 2022 - The President's personal attorneys inspected the Wilmington residence garage and identified a small number of potential records bearing classified markings. Once the President's personal attorneys identified these documents, they stopped their search and informed US Attorney Lausch of the documents found there.
  Dec. 21, 2022 - The President's personal attorneys arranged for DOJ to take possession of, and DOJ did take possession of, the records located in the Wilmington residence garage.
  January 5, 2023 - As stated by the Attorney General, US Attorney Lausch issued an initial report and recommendation to the Attorney General.
  January 11, 2023 - The President's personal attorneys searched the Wilmington and Rehoboth Beach residences for additional records. The President's personal attorneys located a potential record bearing classified markings at the Wilmington residence, among stored materials inside a room adjacent to the garage. Once the President's personal attorneys found this document, the President's personal attorneys left the document where it was found and suspended their search of the specific space where it was located. Following the search at the Wilmington residence, the attorneys proceeded to the Rehoboth residence and conducted a search there. No potential records were identified at the Rehoboth Beach residence, and the attorneys returned to Washington, D.C. late in the evening.
  January 12, 2023 - The President's personal attorneys, that morning, informed US Attorney Lausch that they had found additional material bearing classified markings at the Wilmington residence, inside the room adjacent to the garage. The President's personal attorneys began the process of arranging for the delivery of that material to DOJ. The Attorney General announced the appointment of Special Counsel Robert K. Hur to conduct an investigation. >
  
  Good summary of his crimes. >
  
  Based on this timeline and fact pattern which specific "crimes" do you believe have been committed? >
  
  My understanding is that it's actually the same documents. When found they reported it immediately before they did the full inventory due to a lack of clearance? >
  
  Seems like it was different documents but in the same box. They just didn't see them earlier. They found the first one and stopped looking. Then went back to looking again later and found 5 more pages >
  
  No, it says they stopped upon finding it then Thursday evening someone (who based on who they are would have clearance) looked through the rest of the box. It's not that they didn't see them. >
  
  How is the government so lackadaisical with sensitive documents? Don't they have a group in charge they are kept secure as soon as they are made. I work at a place where safeguard information is strictly structured, made and stored. There are redundant policies in place so not to leave information out of sight. With records of who looks and handles them. With a daily accounting to make sure everything is returned and not left the facility. It's not that complicated. >
  
  I can tell you. It's because of the sheer volume of documents. They don't have a good system in place to keep track of them all. It needs to be improved badly. >
  
  This is a diversion. Nobody cares. >
  
  I care that neither of the last two presidents could safely handle classified documents and might be selling them. >
  
  Honestly every president since the beginning of classifying documents has had documents that they needed turn in after their time in office. The difference is most turn them over when they realize they made a mistake. One person in particular didn't and now it's a news worth thing. >
  
  This is a great lesson on why we should stop electing our geriatrics to run the country.