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  Hold up now. The biggest city in Wyoming has 64k people in it? Lol.
  That would rank 18th in British Columbia, and half of our province is effectively arctic. It would only be the third largest city on Vancouver Island.
context: Even all the big car companies are phasing out fossil fuel, I don't understand how they're so backwards. >
  
  I wonder where they line up for tungsten light bulbs..  Palin wanted to outlaw LEDs. See how that went? >
  
  The shower flow is not strong enough was a Trump rant, also the toilets do not have enough power to flush documents so that was a problem for Trump as well.
  Anyone seeing a pattern of nonsensical deregulation? >
  
  and another thing, people are coming up to me all the time, "please help us, Sir," I said what's the matter, "it's our sinks," you know the sink you have in your little bathroom, you all know what I'm talking about, I said what's with the sink, "it's Obama, Sir, he made it so they don't drain good anymore," I said that's a real shame, and so we're gonna be doing a lot, sinks, toilets, all of it.  now that we have the House, and we would've had the Senate if it wasn't Totally Rigged, but we have the House, we have a lot, a lot of very strong Republicans even if you have some that maybe can be a problem, the Never Trumpers and RINOs, I've never heard something more horrible than Never Trump, it's a complete and total disgrace to our Constitution and so so disrespectful to your Favorite President. ok, you're probably all tired of losing under Sleepy Joe, have a good night. >
  
  I can’t tell if that’s parody or verbatim. He takes baffle em with bullshit to new highs. >
  
  He would never wish someone a good night >
  
  There'd be a few more "Sirs" in the real thing and the guy would have tears in his eyes 🙄 >
  
  The big strong guy >
  
  They cant. Almost all car manufactures have some sort of hybrid or fully electric car now and they arent just going to stop the R&D, the production lines, halt jobs, halt the supply chain, etc. 
  Electric is here to stay and it will continue to grow. >
  
  They don’t really want to, they just need to draw the line so that it becomes a culture war prop. That’s all they ever care about. >
  
  My dad posts anti-electric vehicle memes and propaganda on his social media all the time.  It’s so strange why they are so anti EV.  
  Don’t like it?  Don’t buy one.  It’s obvious that gasoline cars can’t be the future forever.  And no, EV are not ideal yet.  For most people, a gas car still makes more sense.  But that doesn’t mean we should stop making EV. >
  
  The trucks are the funniest to watch them twist themselves into knots about. They have stupid stupid levels of torque, like unavailable in the truck market until now. Thought you were interested in towing shit?! >
  
  Like inssaaaane amounts of it. Once they can perfect a long haul battery for full size trucks it will be the perfect vehicle for towing those 5th wheel trailers all my conservative family members love “camping” in. >
  
  For reference:
  
  
  The base 2023 F-150 with 3.3L V6 sits at 265 lb-ft of torque ($33,695 MSRP, 19MPG city)
  
  
  The highest available option, the supercharged 5.2L high-output V8, gives 640 lb-ft ($76,775 MSRP, 10MPG city)
  
  
  The 2023 F-150 Lightning EV provides 775 lb-ft of torque ($55,974 MSRP (not including tax credits), 76 MPGe city)
  
  
  I'd say the EV wins out here, as long as you're not traveling more than 240 miles in a day. More likely than not, by 2030 the range won't even really be a factor and the performance specs will only continue to improve. For ICE models OTOH, performance has mostly plateaued since there is only so much energy you can extract per second from gasoline while maintaining a reasonably efficient MPG rating. >
  
  Not only do they have crazy torque, they can do a ~3 second 0-60. Watching a stock 4 door sedan rip down a 1/4mile faster than a purpose built drag car is hilarious. >
  
  Guys, we really need to phase out these cars… is no one thinking of the poor Horses that no longer have jobs?!? >
  
  
  is no one thinking of the poor Horses that no longer have jobs?!?
  
  This was actually a legit argument made against the automobile. Ferrier's, saddle makers, wainwrights and cartwrights, coach builders... The internal combustion engine pretty much killed off an entire industry. Just as the battery and motor will do to the engine. >
  
  There’s an episode of the podcast Throughline that talks about the introduction of the tractor to farms. It faced the same kinds of resistance. There was even a contest to see if horses or a tractor performed better in typical farming tasks. Big surprise, tractors won out.
  We’ll always be stuck with luddites. >
  
  Everytime I see a headline like this I think "They couldn't have said something so dumb...right?".
  
  "The proliferation of electric vehicles at the expense of gas-powered vehicles will have deleterious impacts on Wyoming's communities and will be detrimental to Wyoming's economy and the ability for the country to efficiently engage in commerce," the resolution reads.
  "Phasing out the sale of new electric vehicles in Wyoming by 2035 will ensure the stability of Wyoming's oil and gas industry and will help preserve the country's critical minerals for vital purposes."
  
  I still want to believe they are not this stupid...yet here we are. >
  
  Oh boy, if we don’t immediately use up this oil that has sat around for hundreds of millions of years, it will just suddenly disappear rather than sit around until actually needed >
  
  the state makes a bunch of their money from the sale of oil. letting it sit in the ground doesn't pay the bills. >
  
  Who will they sell the oil to? Themselves? 
  I don't think Wyoming can sustain the industry on it's own. 
  It will be interesting though. With most of the world going the other way Wyoming might end up with a fuckload if super cheap ICE vehicles. It'll be the only place in North America that you can still buy and sell them. >
  
  I mean, oil and gas aren't going away for the foreseeable future because plastics aren't going away. Even if we all drive electric scooters, bring reusable glass containers to the store to pick up our milk, and receive meat exclusively in butcher paper.
  Research and medical settings rely on single use plastics. Sturdy plastics go into... a lot of things, including that electric scooter, probably. 
  But it's okay to diversify to wind and geothermal for energy and add those businesses! If the right is supposed to be so focused on the market, they should know that diversifying your investments is good. >
  
  I understand your point and agree 100%. 
  But one of the reasons plastic is everywhere is because it's so incredibly cheap because it's the waste from the refining process. There are other alternatives if plastic started to get scarce. >
  
  So much for letting the coveted "Free Market" decide... >
  
  Remember, it is only a free market so long as people who dropped out of an econ class right after learning about the supply curve agree that it is. >
  
  You are shooting way too high friend. Bobo couldn't finish high school and got a GED. >
  
  Eventually >
  
  After several tries over many years, as I recall >
  
  4th time is a charm... >
  
  And not because she wanted to, someone had to convince her to do it. >
  
  I’m guess the 40 million consumers in California will have more to say about this than the 700,000 in Wyoming. >
  
  The representatives of Wyoming are betraying their people by not keeping up with the modern age... and the people of Wyoming don't know better to tell them to make the state viable in the future. It's sad. >
  
  Gas prices are only going to get more volatile as the years go on anyway. >
  
  Not to mention they’re going to go up just as a function of supply and demand. Demand will start to curb and then go downwards as more vehicles go electric or hybrid. >
  
  Wait, so demand will go down, and prices will go up? >
  
  Yes it's backwards, but right now so much oil is pumped that they can make huge profits on tiny margins.  As demand decreases they will pump less so in order to survive they will have to make more on each gallon. >
  
  So it’s not market forces at all, but rather the needs of the oil producers to preserve profits that will lead to them limiting supply in order to keep prices artificially high.
  Kind of like what we’re already seeing with price gouging elsewhere right now. >
  
  Not really.  It is market forces unlike the price gouging.  If you have to sell 1 million barrels at $100 in order to pay your costs to keep your oil wells going and there is only enough demand for 500,000 barrels. You either have to shut down operations or sell the oil at $200 a barrel. >
  
  No let’s phase out republicans >
  
  I wanna watch this blooodbath. >
  
  Why even hide the bribes now? >
  
  One of the worst effects of the Trump presidency was the fact that he showed Republicans how much they can get away with in public.  The system of justice really doesn't give a fuck about all the corruption. >
  
  It’s not only the justice system, Republican voters don’t hold any of them accountable at the ballot box. >
  
  Fox news is the biggest reason for this >
  
  Don't forget about right wing hate radio and churches, they're also part of the propaganda machine. >
  
  Protect? For how long? It’s not a renewable resource. >
  
  It is, but we are using it a million times faster than nature renews it. Oil isn't dead dinosaurs. It's dead trees. Edit: apparently, the things that happened in nature to make oil don't happen anymore. Not renewable at all. >
  
  Not just trees, but it’s impossible today and has been for a long time since there are no ecosystems that haven’t filled the niche for lignin metabolism. Trees couldn’t rot then, now they can’t help from it. >
  
  I'll correct my comment. >
  
  To correct you both trees form coal when they can be decomposed. Since that isn’t happening no new coal deposits will form. On the other hand algae is what decomposes to make oil, but there aren’t a lot of algae blooms here under the right conditions for oil either >
  
  Newly printed republican Elon Musk approves >
  
  "Leopard eating my face" moment coming up for Elon it seems >
  
  that dumbass ripped his own face off. >
  
  Yeah, but he’s fucking Grimes! >
  
  Not anymore. she left him for chelsea manning. (yes, that chelsea manning) >
  
  If this is true, WTF!? 🤦🏼‍♂️ >
  
  It is true. Some say this is what broke elon's brain. >
  
  Even fucking energy companies are slowly going away from it.
  They're so fucking stupid. >
  
  ~~stupid~~ corrupt. >
  
  porque no los dos? >
  
  If I were in more of an industrious mood, I'd go and google if they tried to pass legislation to protect buggy-whip makers when those new-fangled horseless carriages showed up around 1900, or whenever it was.   I suspect they did, and it was probably as funny to a lot of people then as phasing out electric cars sounds to me now. >
  
  Mackinac Island in Michigan did. It's actually become a tourist destination because of it and was used in the film Somewhere Back in Time. >
  
  I think that’s a special case - it’s a small island that is walkable/bikeable - there’s no real reason to have passenger cars on the island. >
  
  That is some of the stupidest shit I've ever read. >
  
  Tucker today was saying 'Was smoking -really- so bad?' and wanting to bring it back. >
  
  I hate the Republican Party almost as much as they hate America. >
  
  The republican party is a treasonous and terrorist organization. >
  
  Not surprise at all - these Republicans hate progressive ideas, hate women and love pedophiles! >
  
  When the free market isn't working the way you want, just have big government step in. >
  
  Won't anyone think of the fossil fuels!!? >
  
  Because they too will become fossil fuels, already got the fossil part down >
  
  It's a state of 500,000 people and I hope they do this so they can not even buy an electric car in the state. You elect clowns you deserve to live with it. >
  
  There are few humans in Wyoming. I have driven through the entire state. Yet those 579,000 humans (our congressional districts represent an average of 761,179 people) have two United States Senators. Wyoming is wildly over-represented. >
  
  Absolutely! If just 3 small. cities from Update New York moved to Wyoming, they could take the whole thing over.
  Wyoming
  Rank    City        Population 
  1   Cheyenne     64,610
  2   Casper   58,547
  3   Gillette     33,047
  New York
  Rank City 
  4      Rochester    211,328
  5     Syracuse.  148,620
  6     Albany.         99,224
  We wouldn't even have to touch Buffalo... much less NYC.