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  Grifters gonna grift.
context: Wait I thought he won and it was stolen? >
  
  Something definitely got stolen: Republican campaign donations. 
  They knew he was a snake when they took him in, etc. >
  
  Irony: Trump’s greed and never ending grift is a major factor in the USA avoiding a 2nd Trump term. >
  
  Literally all he had to say was "masks are patriotic; everyone should wear one" and boom he's got his second term. >
  
  And sell MAGA masks (as abhorrent as those would be). >
  
  Yes!!! Exactly! He was thrown a political softball with Covid. He also had a vaccine in 9 months!!! All he had to fucking do was say “we’re going to get this amazing vaccine to everyone! Wear your masks! And we’ll get our economy roaring back!”  He was just too stupid to realize people care about dying more than being rich. >
  
  Yep, Covid was Trump's ticket to a 2nd term.  The lord looked down upon The Chosen One, saw him pathetically floundering away, and threw him a softball.  When Covid first broke out, I thought this was a game changer for Trump politically, now he's going to be seen as sorta a war-time President.  All he had to do was keep his mouth shut and follow the recommendations of his own experts. >
  
  No, seriously. This flies in the face of the “trump is actually a genius strategist and orator” argument.. 
  Denying the existence of covid, thus turning it into another rightwing culture war issue, was 100% the nail in the coffin for a second trump term. >
  
  Yea trump is just the right kind of sociopath for the GOP when he won. He lucked into being the right personality at the right time. But once in the game he had no insight. >
  
  Kellyanne continues to live in an alternate universe. No wonder George walked.
  Of course the Trump family grifted - that's what they do. But Trump wasn't going to win anyway, because he was massively unpopular across a big chunk of the electorate. To blame campaign strategy for his loss is ludicrous. >
  
  Did he really leave her? I heard this awhile ago but tried to find sources and couldn’t. >
  
  I read an article about George a few months ago that said that they were living separately, but no one has filed for divorce. >
  
  Sounds like a deliberate ploy.  They benefit from playing both sides. >
  
  Depending where you live if you want a no fault divorce and have a kid (edit: under 18, if your kid(s) is/are 18+ they don’t worry about that anymore) you need to live separately for up to a year first. If they’re comfortable dividing assets or at least feel they can come to agreement that might be what they’re doing. >
  
  A coworker from North Carolina was telling me for her divorce the judge ordered 8-weeks of marriage counseling, after that he was still convinced the couple could reconcile and ordered 8 more before they were finally granted a divorce. >
  
  Yes, I got divorced in NC as well and one year separation and required marriage counseling is necessary before you can even officially complete the process. >
  
  Wtf? How can judges order that shit when you have 2 adults saying this isn’t working and we want to separate? Marriage seems like way more of a hassle than it’s really worth. I can buy a fancy expensive ring just as easily without the legal bullshit involved. >
  
  Right but insurance, parental rights, and even the right to access your loved one in the hospital are dependent on marriage here. >
  
  Exactly they force you to marry now. Me and my fiancée have been together for 10 years. She was in the ICU May 2021 and I was lucky enough to step in and sign a RO; still having hope.
  Her family just responded to my calls with an annoyance and “just sign a DNR” as if they couldn’t be bothered. The entire ICU couldn’t believe their responses. So they let me step end. 
  Everyday they said I should make preparations but she came out of there alive eight days later. We were very lucky. It’s made us now push more to moving up our marriage date since she has epilepsy and her family is total shit. >
  
  In what universe does Trump win in a blowout? Trump had the consistently worst approval ratings of any modern president. He was extremely popular with his base, but his broad appeal has always been limited.
  She's either delusional, or deliberately lying, and probably both. >
  
  Exactly that. Both. >
  
  Hell, she made her political career out of lying for him. There are 6 years worth of it, easy to find, in print and video all over the internet with her blatantly lying. >
  
  Shit she was trashing him on Fox just the other day >
  
  This is totally trashing him in their world. >
  
  So egomaniacal conman would have won election if he just hadn’t used his campaign funds for personal profit and inflating his own ego? Makes sense, I totally get why you like this guy /s. >
  
  It's a huge pivot from election fraud to, Donald Trump is incompetent. They've turned on him, he's done. >
  
  Sadly it's not even because they decided this on their own or came to their senses, Murdoch news sources just stopped covering for him and started providing negative coverage. >
  
  Lol when he wins the primary it will be a whole different story. Even if doesn't win we KNOW they would turn on a dime for him no consequences. >
  
  Thats what I figure too.  He will totally blast the shit out of fox and they will stop if his base goes to oan or whatever.  I could see him plugging truth social too non stop >
  
  What a cute whitewash that completely ignored the attempted coup. >
  
  "But he stole the funds I tried to raise. I'm personally affected" >
  
  Trump being a horrible president for four years had a little something to do with it too. >
  
  Honestly, he was gifted just about the PERFECT thing to practically guarantee his re-election, a Global pandemic. If he was smart, all he had  to do to win reelection was to take this seriously from the beginning, ask Dr. Fauci/other experts what the best response is/would be, follow their advice, go on nightly/regular TV appearances, a la FDR’s Fireside Chats, say that we are going to get through this, by doing X Y & Z, and he would have almost certainly have won. He was granted the best possible opportunity for his reelection, and all he had to do was to take it seriously, at least in public and he would have won. And he did just about the worst possible things to do in his situation  and he STILL ALMOST WON, despite his stupidity, his murderous actions and behaviors.
  Edit: a few words and spelling. >
  
  Well said. 
  He wasn’t shooting his own voters on fifth Avenue but the survivors still voted for him. If he hadn’t killed so many he he may have still squeaked by. 
  It’s frightening to me that so many millions of Americans clamor for his type of “leadership”. >
  
  It is not frightening to me. I am beyond frightened. I am terrified by the stupidity, ignorance and just plain mean spiritedness of many people in this country. The people who are willing to vote for their own injustice and harm, as long as “Groups  X, Y, and Z” has it “Worse” is terrifying to me. Don’t they understand that if they don’t have millions in the bank, that these issues will also affect themselves, and negatively as well? They know that and are still ok with it. Hate is just about the most powerful emotion there is, since you will do terrible things to yourself/your best interests, as long as you think that someone else is “Getting it worse”. >
  
  GOP candidates are great at telling stories to poorly educated white people and “bootstrap” voters that blame the worse off for them being exploited by capitalists and megachurch millionaire preachers. >
  
  I do believe that was the basis for the Roberts Court to allow unlimited money into politics.  Money is speech.  The people with the most money are the loudest.  Even if all their speech is propaganda. >
  
  This is why the GOP is so anti-education and anti-science.  The more educated you are, the less likely you are going to blindly believe propaganda and more likely you are to vet your information. >
  
  Not only do they spew propaganda, but they immediately call anything that strays from their worldview propaganda and indoctrination. 
  Schools teaching about how gay people exist and that that’s okay? Evil gay agenda trying to convert your children. Learning about America’s systemic racial and wealth inequality and ways to help fix it? Clearly communist CRT that should be banned.
  Taking down Confederate propaganda statues because we shouldn’t glorify people that literally fought to keep others enslaved? HOLY SHIT YOU’RE TRYNA ERASE THE SOUTH’S RICH HISTORY AND ALSO THE CIVIL WAR WASN’T ABOUT SLAVERY IT WAS STATE’S RIGHTS!
  State’s rights to…? >
  
  STATE'S RIGHTS TO DO WHAT!!!??  TO DO WHAT!!??  they never finish the goddamn sentence! >
  
  Nice sauce!  But I was referring to the current crop of Confederate fanboys that indicate it was about "states rights" without completing the thought.  They just leave it at that. >
  
  He lost the popular vote in 2016 by millions, screw the electoral system, so forgive me why I doubt becoming even more unpopular over the next 4 years would have earned him anything close to a “blowout” victory in 2020 >
  
  Kellyanne needs understand one thing:  Trump will always be the grifter that he is.  He cannot change this.  He will always look to enrich himself at all other expenses, especial our Republic.
  Had Trump led our nation through COVID as any good leader would have, he could have easily been reelected. But he could not do that since that is not in his character.  He is who he is.  He knew the truth about COVID and choose to lie since that is his nature.
  Oh, her husband has a better understanding of how Donald is than she has. >
  
  No, the US hates him based on many other issues, not just COVID. I hated his environmental policies, chopping away at our national parks, his disrespect for women and other races.... the list goes on and on and on. Hated him for everything he did, because he did it all WRONG. He would have never been 'easily' reelected. >
  
  There’s plenty of reasons that many people would never vote for trump. I still firmly believe that had his COVID policy been “Look, here’s this doctor Fauci guy. He knows diseases, he knows viruses, perhaps even better than me, some say, but not all. He’s gonna be in charge of helping keep Americans away from this alien virus” and then fucked off and said nothing else up until the election, he’d have been re-elected. >
  
  You realize he didn’t want to deal with COVID initially because it was spreading faster and affecting more people in Blue states (which happen to be most populated areas of US). 
  His entire stance in COVID was “its only killing Democrats who didn’t vote for me so fuck ‘em”. And when he realize virus doesn’t discriminate, in classic mango Mussolini fashion he doubled down on his mistake. 
  Trump made COVID a politics issue killing millions of Americans, and quite a lot of the republicans base. I still can’t understand how if you lost a family member to COVID you would vote R ever again. They have proven that they’d pick party over country time and time again, even at the cost of innocent American lives. >
  
  Yeah. That's what the guy is saying. trump made it a political issue, and if he hadn't, despite how horrible he is in every other way, he probably could have been reelected. >
  
  Trump squandered...been the story ever since his Daddy left him millions. >
  
  Oh no! The grifter grifted, and Kellyanne Conway showed her underage daughters nudes to the world. >
  
  That's such a fucking crazy thing to think about and yet, she's not in jail lol >
  
  The Crypt Keeper says what?
  And why isn't she in prison for posting nude child pics on the web.  
  Her own fricking daughter.
  Absolute scum. >
  
  And how is George with her? It makes no sense to me. She’s worse than scum. Does he have zero self esteem? What is it? >
  
  The reality is that folks with their kind of money mingle far more than we plebs think they do, regardless of their political beliefs and backgrounds. They fight in public and plenty of them are friends in the background. And George is still a (“former”) Republican. He believes a lot of what she believes. He just hates the man who she and the party propped up as their leader. 
  It’s the same as people like Cheney and Kinzinger. Make no mistake, they’re both still Republicans through and through (and I wish people on this sub would stop propping them up as some sort of heroes when in reality the only thing separating them from the rest is their Trump hate; they still have shitty beliefs and voting records and couldn’t rally enough support on the Republican side to actually make a difference, and both are now out of politics making them effectively useless in fighting Trump).
  There’s also the reality that two straight white rich people are generally immune to the impacts of politics on society. It’s honestly just sort of a game to them while it’s life for us. George may hate Trump but it’s not like any decisions Trump and his ilk made/make are really going to impact his life.
  Outside of the political stuff, the whole saga of Kellyanne posting her daughter’s nudes online should have been the tipping point for George. If he was seriously opposed to his wife and her shitty behavior (both politically and otherwise) he should have taken Claudia and their other kids away and I don’t think any judge would disagree with him based on what happened. But he didn’t. So. I think that shows it’s all theatre to him. I do appreciate his opposition to Trump like I did Cheney’s and Kinzinger’s. But at the end of the day: is it really doing anything to stop Trump? I’m not sure it is. >
  
  George has been making bank since the day his hag-wife stepped her claw foot into the White House. Their attraction to grifting is stronger than their political differences. >
  
  They are this shitty timeline’s equivalent of James Carville and Mary Matalin. Supposedly opposed power couple in on the grift. >
  
  Trump has zero chance in 24.
  At the rate things are going, the democrats will make a clean sweep in 24.
  The republicans want to kill  social security and run  Trump? they will pay dearly for that level of stupidity. >
  
  Don’t say zero.  Trump lost the popular vote and still won. 
  Definitely concerned with all the gerrymandering and voter suppression laws.
  Don’t forget the Grand ol Projection party is claiming an election was stolen while they are actively working towards stealing one for 24
  Combine that with how blasé people are towards Biden, I definitely wouldn’t say zero.
  Getting people to care that even if they think Biden sucks, not actively voting will result in worse >
  
  Oh, Kellyanne, he only just barely won the first time. The second time around people knew exactly what kind of mistake it would be to elect him again. >
  
  She's delusional. >
  
  Republicans don't seem to understand that Trump lost because he's an unlikable unintelligent lying asshole. >
  
  Maybe he also lost because he downplayed a pandemic that would have hurt his hotels, restaurants and country clubs. 
  Hey Kellyanne, maybe the piece of shit president should have sold his business before becoming president? >
  
  She's always wrong. >
  
  She doesn’t give any details on where the money went, etc. This is an idiot saying absolutely nothing of importance and nothing new. Why people like her get a platform I will never understand. >
  
  Stolen. The money was stolen. So much easier to write, but harder to sell as a book. >
  
  Money laundering. >
  
  squandered... laundered...
  Seems like more financial crime >
  
  Reminder: This is the woman who had tweeted out child pornography of her underage daughter a few years back, and faced no punishment from Barr or Garland. >
  
  Conway cannot see the forest for the trees. >
  
  Squandering $1.6 billion seems pretty on brand for trump >
  
  It’s strange to me that money equals victory for these people. Even if he had more in his war chest, I don’t think he would have won. His behavior, cruelty, and corruption were on total display in TV, and in social media. He was fully unfit and the majority of voters saw that. >
  
  Also Kellyanne: I will support and cheerlead for Trump 2024
  These people have no moral compass whatsoever >
  
  Nonsense headline.  He spent $5 million on his properties out of $1.6 Billion. That's one third of 1 percent. $57 million spent on Merchandise and donor gifts (which is apart of campaigning) comes out to another 3%. The majority of his war chest was spent on advertising. All this clickbait article explains is with $1.6 billion, Trump still couldn't beat Biden. He didn't piss that money away or steal it, he's just a loser. >
  
  First, there is no reason why we continue litigating an election that WAS LOST BY TRUMP TWO YEARS AGO. This was not a squeaker as TRUMP LOST BY 7 MILLION VOTES. Nevertheless, the media perpetuates the inaccurate portrait of a close election as clickbait. Moreover, it appears that the campaign was funneling money to Trump and his family which confirms the large scale grift that was the hallmark of the GQP Presidential campaign. Second, Trump had smooth sailing for the first two years as President and Trump took credit for what he had inherited from Obama (big surprise, as he did the same thing with his inheritance from his father). Trump faced one major crisis in his presidency : COVID. TRUMP’S MANAGEMENT OF THE COVID CRISIS WAS FUBAR.  No one outside of MAGA will forget Trump’s COVID meltdown. Trump has had his last act on the Presidential stage. >
  
  plus, he was an incompetent corrupt piece of shit, and there's that.. >
  
  Embezzlement? >
  
  Raise your hand if you believe anything Kellyanne "alternate facts" Conway says >
  
  This is almost as dumb as people saying Trump should have won because he had more people at his rallies than Biden. >
  
  k. Why is anyone listening to Kellyanne again? >
  
  You want a criminal that wasted $1.6B to run the country? To own the libs? >
  
  Isn't this the lady who intentionally leaked a topless picture of her 16 year old daughter on Twitter? How is she waking around freely? >
  
  There's also the fact that he let over half of a million Americans die in a very easily avoidable plague. That really annoyed a bunch of people >
  
  Or he could just have handled Covid better and he probably would have cruised to re election regardless of what he spent. >
  
  Here’s the scariest part: it WAS a blowout for Trump. In a way.
  Joe Biden received the most votes in history. Donald Trump received the SECOND most votes in history. 
  Don’t let ANY Republican tell you that they never supported Trump. They supported him, and they turned out in record numbers to vote. He is EXACTLY who they wanted as President. Again. >
  
  oh, I long for the days when Republicans didn't "buy" votes, but earned them based on their record and public service...  /s >
  
  The election was a blowout for Trump: He blew it right out of his ass. >
  
  Wow. I for one am shocked, SHOCKED I tell you, that a known con man and grifter grifted money from somebody else. I am absolutely shocked that this happened! Morons. >
  
  Stole.
  Not squandered.
  Stole.
  Because he is nothing more than a two bit conman thief who stole hundreds of millions from Americans who didn't know any better. >
  
  I don't know that there was enough money on the planet to make the election successful for Trump.  I think she's drastically underestimating the number of people that are tired of his shit. >
  
  Campaign money was not helping Trump in 2020. 
  MAGA had hit the point of significant diminishing returns on ad spending and turnout engagement. Trump’s name and brand was fully known so more ad spend on awareness would have been a waste. 
  The GOP doesn’t have actual popular policy to run on either so pushing “inflation is bad!” rhetoric doesn’t do you any favors when you have no plans on actually fighting inflation that you can talk about in the follow up. 
  Anger, fear, and disgust are incredibly effective emotions to tap into when it comes to politics. But reliance on those emotions only gets you so far while simultaneously engaging folks on the other side. It gets the MAGA base to turn out but turns off just as many other people while riling up liberals and moderates to vote against the right wing party across the board. >
  
  Should have been a blowout?  And the two impeachments were irrelevant, then? >
  
  Lucky for us the fascists lost for now. >
  
  Wow, she continues to overestimate his appeal. How much of the $1.6 billion did she get? >
  
  And she was a complicit piece of garbage. >
  
  “Trump should’ve won but he mismanaged billions,” is quite the endorsement. >
  
  This POS can't admit the simple fact that Trump is, and always has been a criminal. >
  
  COVID. Trump would have sailed to re-election if his response to COVID was completely different. >
  
  Uhhh, Kellyanne, that isn't "squandered", that's embezzlement. >
  
  He would’ve won if he wasn’t such a corrupt fraud…..
  Weird flex Kellyanne, but ok >
  
  Money don’t mean shit, no one wanted dude here so he lost.  They wil make up any excuse lol >
  
  How is that not grounds for criminal charges?  You can’t use campaign donations for personal use.
  santos and trump are degenerates who need hard prison time >
  
  This just in:  Republicans admit they buy elections... >
  
  He didn’t lose because he pissed away money, he lost because he was a shitty candidate. Sure he got 76 million votes, but the winner got 81 million, because he was the better candidate. >
  
  Yeah that's why every sane person knew his "management" skills were always bullshit.