comment: Marder and Gepards? Juicy. I hear that Ukraine has gotten pretty good with the Gepards. They shoot down almost, if not all, of the Shahed drones. Supposedly also, thanks to an app that Ukraine has developed for the civilians so they can report incoming air attacks, which gives time to move air defence into position.
  Edit:
  Had apparently written Murder and not Marder. Damn auto-correct!