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  "No school on Monday." Imagine being 6 yo and having at most 4 days to get over this...
context: My wife works in district! She has friends who work at the school. They said the woman shot went to admin multiple times to voice her concerns with the child who was acting strange. Then, the student shot her. Admin is a joke. >
  
  Not surprising at all and why so many of us are leaving this profession. I've been in the same situation, as have every single one of my elementary school peers. I've worked in an affluent school for over a decade and it now worries me more than when I started out and taught in the projects. 
  Thank you for speaking up! Only teachers, their family, and closest friends understand how terribly bad it's gotten. Everyone else is still in denial or shock. >
  
  My sister is now a teacher in a super-affluent high school and has said the same thing; the atmosphere and the events that are happening to/from the students are way more intense than any urban or rural farmland school she’s worked at. The admin is so afraid of the parents, the kids are effectively allowed to do whatever they want, whenever they want. >
  
  This is what the “parents rights” movment has done to us >
  
  Yep and any attempt by a teacher/admin to control the situation is “big government indoctrination” it’s so fucking stupid. >
  
  And the ones who scream about schools "indoctrinating" kids haven't set foot inside a school or taken an active interest in their kid's education in years. >
  
  How dare you indoctrinate my kid who I’m trying to indoctrinate >
  
  When i was six i peed my pants on the carpet during story time because i didn’t want to miss the story. >
  
  Right?   I loved my teachers… it was fun to go to school and have story time and popcorn on Fridays!   Oh and when the local firefighters came and we got to outside to see the fire trucks!     What have we become. >
  
  "Kindergartner shoots fireman for not letting him turn on the hose." >
  
  "6 year old wanted to use the hose, instead busts a cap in them hoes" >
  
  Mrs Miller read stories from the bible. Odd because we were a public school.  She refused to read the story about Samson because apparently he wasted his life and was gay.
  I was 6.  This was 1981 in Toronto. >
  
  Circle-Square! >
  
  
  we are going to learn from this
  
  Hey I doubt it! >
  
  
  "This was not an accidental shooting," Police Chief Steve Drew told reporters during an evening press conference.
  
  Seriously?  A 6-year-old planned an attack on a teacher?  
  I have no words. >
  
  Children that age don't understand the implications of their actions. A child that age would launch nukes because they didn't get ice cream if the button was in front of them. And no doubt this is a very troubled child. What is absolutely insane is that this child was able to procure a gun and get it to school and evidently had learned from someone how to fire it. >
  
  I have a daughter who is about to turn 5 and she has an aggressive cousin who is about a year younger than her; it makes her “nervous” to be around him and ”worried” he is going to be “mean” to her and Mema and Papa (her words, not mine).  
  Young children can have emotional intelligence, especially enough to understand that it is not okay to hurt someone else.
  
  What is absolutely insane is that this child was able to procure a gun and get it to school and evidently had learned from someone how to fire it.
  
  Yes, that is very disturbing. >
  
  Your parents suck. So did his. >
  
  They reacted as if it were some plaything or antique. Which it was. But muskets are also antiques, and in 2023 you can shoot someone dead with one just as you could in 1770 >
  
  It is an antique maybe, but let me tell you that getting hit with a fucking sword will still hurt and maybe even cut, even if it's dull. You might let 1 thing slide, but when there's multiple red flags going on, you should avoid that person at all cost. Her parents suck for letting all of that happen on their roof. >
  
  That's what I'm saying- they dismissed it because they didn't recognize it as something still actually dangerous... They're totally dumb. Also missed the detail these kids were messing around on the roof, of all places! 😜 >
  
  How does a six year old have access to, the ability to conceal and bring to school, and the knowledge to use a handgun?! What the fuck is going on out there?? >
  
  Parents keeping loaded weapons in easily accessible locations. >
  
  Parents should be charged as accessory to attempted murder. >
  
  Parents very likely will be charged with something. It’s very difficult to charge a child under the age of 10 with a crime. >
  
  And charging a six year old is utterly pointless. They can put the kid in some secured facility or group home without relying on criminal charges. >
  
  
  
  This was not an accidental shooting
  
  
  Fuck us all >
  
  No, no, we're going to be OK:
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  "It's a dark day for Newport News," Jones said. "We're going to learn from this, and we're going to come back stronger."
  
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  !Just kidding.  We're not going to learn a thing from this.!< >
  
  Come on man. The lesson is clear. If that teacher was armed, she would’ve shot the evil 6 year old and defended herself. If a good 6 year old next to the evil 6 year had a shotgun he would’ve killed the evil 6 year old before the teacher was shot. You need to arm the good guys and then delete all doors except for one.
  Come on. How hard is that to understand?
  Goddamn liburls. >
  
  Obviously we need to fund mental health care for checks notes toddlers and kindergarteners and first graders. >
  
  I’m not even sure how much capacity for consequences a six year old has. They are very dumb. Respectfully. I could totally see a six year old doing this and then only
  Realizing what happened after the gun goes off. >
  
  I have a 6 year old.  She knows something like that would be very, very bad.  However, she doesnt know what the fallout would be or what would happen to that persons family, etc. >
  
  I have a 5 and 7yo.  our 7yo needs help with emotional regulation, and we are trying to get him into a therapist or someone who is qualified to help him and help us help him, and his pede won't just start meds without a consult.  there is a 4 year wait on appointments.  we literally want to help him, so we are relying on self help and our best judgements from reading books and shit that experts have written on the subject.  we still need help. >
  
  Martial arts may help. I’m a taekwondo instructor and the absolute best part of my job is when a parent comes in and tells me how much their kid has changed. Kiddo freshly diagnosed with ADHD and on the spectrum started classes and would cover his ears, cry, etc. he still has bad days but they are few and far between. Not just on the mat but home and school too. He’s just one example. 
  If you are interested, I’m more than happy to look into schools in your area and recommend one. >
  
  I want to second this. I have a 6 year old girl with ADHD who struggles with emotion regulation and focusing. We decided to try karate. She's been attending for three months and the improvements we've seen have been amazing. I went from getting at least one call a week from the school to none in the past two months. >
  
  That is FANTASTIC! I got a similar report from a parent recently and it felt like I got an extra paycheck. If you haven’t, please tell her instructors. It will really make their day. I smiled like a dork at my phone as I read your last sentence, lol. So awesome! >
  
  Even though it was a teacher that was targeted in this instance, I couldn't help but also think back to the Buell Elementary shooting where the shooter was also a 6-year-old.
  I hope this teacher recovers well and recovers quickly. This is awful. >
  
  This....this was not the first 6 year old shooter??? >
  
  Where’s that kid now? Is he a monster?
  Just wondering btw because some of them do go on to be evil >
  
  Case was sealed, you won't know. There are plenty of young murders around though that turned out to be upstanding citizen later. Even a guy who murdered his entire family when he was like 12 and later became a hero of his community. >
  
  Wait what? Can you link me an article about that last one because holy shit >
  
  Wesley Elkins, murdered his parents in their sleep at age 12 (his baby sister was in the bed w parents but he did not kill her). Was sentenced to life in prison and was eventually pardoned. Lived the rest of his life as a normal person. Episode 16 of Criminal. >
  
  I'm surprised there isn't more about this guy considering he was imprisoned at age 12 and contributed to the idea of rehabilitation of prisoners instead of just pure punishment in the 1900s while in his twenties. Thank you for episode number. >
  
  Fucking six? 
  "A 6-year-old student shot a teacher during an altercation at a Virginia elementary school on Friday, police said. No students were injured in the incident at Richneck Elementary School, Newport News police said in a statement."
  I'm going home. >
  
  Yep same age as my nephew. What was the kids reaction afterwards? >
  
  They passed around the goodie bag and each took one piece of candy /s
  There is frustratingly little actual information in the article. The people quoted had nothing at all to do with the incident >
  
  In addition to the parents being thrown in jail, they need to be banned from owning guns for life. Infinite levels of negligence. >
  
  Lol, you realize there are people arguing that taking guns away from felons is unconstitutional, even recent court cases with this opinion. This country is dumb AF sometimes. >
  
  It's mindblowing, honestly. "Restricting felons from voting = A-OK". "Restricting felons from owning firearms = UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!11!". >
  
  Felons should be able to vote after servicing their sentence >
  
  Personally, I think every citizen who is 18 years of age or older should be allowed to vote, even those who are currently incarcerated. >
  
  I forget who said it but its something along the lines of “if you take away a felons right to vote, all a government has to do to remain in power is criminalize their opposition” >
  
  This is the argument I always make, but unfortunately even so-called Republicans and Libertarians hate brown people more than they hate unrestricted government power. >
  
  First grade teacher here. I’ve been a teacher for over 20 years. I’ve typed and erased something at least 5 times and nothing is coming close to conveying how I feel right now. I’m just sad and numb. >
  
  I’m not a teacher, just a parent feeling for all the teachers in your shoes. Thank you for your years in the classroom. >
  
  I don't want to start a trend of thanking teachers for their service like we do veterans. They're not supposed to be facing the same life or death scenarios.
  Using the same language normalizes this constant threat they face. Well more than it's already been anyway.
  Not to say that was your intention, I agree with supporting all of our teachers. It's just the way you worded it that stuck out to me. >
  
  I see what you’re saying but teachers face a lot more adversity than the threat of being shot. The climate is almost intolerable - hence teachers leaving the profession, some after many years. I think we should be incredibly grateful to the teachers that stick around given what they deal with daily. >
  
  “We’ll learn from this” 
  No they fucking won’t. That poor teacher is probably traumatized. The parents need to be punished and banned from owning guns. >
  
  The teacher is worse than traumatised, in hospital with life threatening injuries according to the BBC article.
  The thing about guns is that even children can murder you with them. Reminds me of another case I heard about a couple weeks back about a 10yo shooting his mum with a gun deliberately after a tantrum about buying a VR headset.
  Shits fucked. >
  
  And then after he shot her he ordered the headset, if I remember the story correctly. Little pyschopath >
  
  Jesus fucking christ >
  
  "Today our students got a lesson in gun violence" is such a fucked up thing to say after this. I don't know how to put what I want to say into words. I'm just kinda sick to my stomach. >
  
  That stood out to me too. It's like they're passing it off as a no biggie learning experience akin to breaking a mug "see, now we all learned a lesson today of not running while holding a mug" >
  
  I don't even know how to react to that. >
  
  And mommy and daddy are arrested for allowing this child access to a firearm,  right? RIGHT?! >
  
  Should be arrested and charged with attempted murder. >
  
  I’d say more accessory to murder, child endangerment, and reckless endangerment >
  
  I'm sure seeing thier child in trouble will be punishment enough /s >
  
  What is even happening anymore. What the fuck is going on. This is a nightmare >
  
  American gun culture is happening. >
  
  Piggy backing from my own comment. Some ammosexual manchild sent me the reddit suicide help message. 
  Coward couldn't even leave a reply. You know who you are. >
  
  They do that a lot, comment stop to the msg and you can't get another ever again.    Impressive these people are so fucked up and dehumanized they use a help system to throw angst, they will look inward once alone anyways. >
  
  This happened in my city.  I have a child in another elementary school.  You tell yourself every day "hopefully it won't be us/our school/grocery store/movie theater".  So tired, sad, and angry. >
  
  I've been worried about the middle school Elementary?!  Nowhere is "safe".  Anybody anywhere can pop off.  Apparently even a 6 year old.  I am so sick to my stomach. >
  
  This is a surreal conversation to read because in Canada we’re still concerned about bullying. Y’all have evolved from bullying to murder. Wild. >
  
  I was arguing with someone the other day because they were trying to argue that America didn't deserve their reputation for school shootings because it was only like 30-40 or something nationwide in 2021.
  And I'm like... Bruh. That's more than Canada has had since the invention of the firearm or existed as a nation. The use of the word "only" in relation to 30-40 school shootings in a single year is a fucking horrific thing to think about. >
  
  But yet they want to arm the teachers so we have to make the decision to shoot a 6 year old. And you wonder why so many of us have left the classroom. >
  
  It's not like they think it through, either. Of the few people who'd even take that shot, I'd wager most would turn the gun on themselves right after. And even if they don't, they'll never be the same. You don't come back from killing a 6yo in front of his peers. >
  
  Might make keeping the rest in line easier for the year, tho. >
  
  
  “The individual is a 6-year-old student. He is right now in police custody,” Drew said. “We have been in contact with our commonwealth attorney and some other entities to help us best get services to this young man.”
  
  In what world is a 6 year old a "young man?" >
  
  The one where if you disrespect him he might shoot you. >
  
  I’m going to call 6 yr olds “sir” from now on just in case. >
  
  Do we all agree that whichever adult owns the gun should be prosecuted for criminal negligence and accessory to attempted murder? >
  
  How does a 6 yr old get a gun? >
  
  Probably applied, got run a background check, came clean and waited the 2 weeks >
  
  Where are the good six year olds with guns when you need them? >
  
  Here’s your gold star for shooting your classmate >
  
  
  A 6-year-old student shot a teacher during an altercation at a Virginia elementary school
  
  Every single thing about this sentence is wrong and disgusting. 
  As someone who's closing in on 30 I honestly never thought the school shooting situation could have gotten worse and yet now we're at the point where we're having an altercation between a teacher and a six year old which is fucking wild to start with but somehow the six-year-old shoots the teacher what the fuck. What is fucking wrong with the world >
  
  the only thing that can stop a bad 6yo with a gun is a good 6yo with a gun >
  
  Gosh, I can totally see that being said by certain people >
  
  if only that teacher was armed, they could have killed that 6 year old in self defense  /s >
  
  I wonder what would have happened though if the teacher had fought back. Which way would the story be spun? That the teacher defended themselves or attacked the student in “retaliation”. >
  
  
  "It's a dark day for Newport News," Jones said. "We're going to learn from this, and we're going to come back stronger."
  
  Are we going to learn from this, though. Are we really?
  We've been sounding the alarm for 30 years and it seems we haven't learned a goddamn thing in that time except how to make the incidents more salacious. "Yes, this happens six times a week, but this time a 6 year old child was the shooter!"
  Can't wait to hear about how it's the child's "mental health" that we should really be talking about, followed by deafening fucking silence when ANYONE asks what the plan is about the mental health. >
  
  Damn. Thinking about getting back into IT because working even in an elementary school is risky business. For shit pay, too. One of my elementary school kids got expelled for making threats to shoot everyone. >
  
  My husband and I were both teachers. I was on campus during a school shooting. We both switched to IT and work from home now. And we are homeschooling our children. >
  
  Can I ask how you guys transitioned out of the schools and into IT? >
  
  Someone with an educational background would easily transition into an IT role.  Even if they didn't want to learn how to code.Examples:  Project Management, Systems/Business Analyst, Technical Writer, QA (testing), Training. >
  
  Can confirm.  Didn’t work in education specifically, but worked in a mental health / training role and transitioned to IT.  My impression is that people skills are valued extremely highly in IT.  Anyone can learn to code with enough time (and there are tons of good resources out there), so it’s easier to teach a good communicator IT skills than it is to teach an IT person good communication skills.  Almost all of my coworkers followed a similar pathway of education/healthcare/etc. to IT. >
  
  I think that nowadays it's very hard to get an entry-level job in software development without a solid CS background, there's a bottleneck for juniors.
  Personally, I really do wish that communication skills were more valued in the industry. I was a civil engineer and I changed into software development, hands down the worst part of the job is dealing with people with no social skills all day, which wasn't a problem in my previous industry. The worst are the yellers when a technical discussion doesn't go their way or the ones that silently try to refactor people's code and launch a passive-aggressive PR. I find that making digs at someone for not knowing a concept can be common. >
  
  guns dont kill people. 6 year olds do >
  
  I blame this on the Peppa the Pig episode that showed kids how to dismantle, clean, and reassemble their glocks (/s) >
  
  Glock? Peppa Pig would obviously use a Walther >
  
  My apologies, I was obviously confusing Peppa with Cocomelon >
  
  Yet Americans desperately needs their rights to carry firearms. I guess I get why when fucking 6 year olds gonna start shooting at them. Messed up country, never going there. >
  
  As an American, I can entirely respect this decision; for the time being, stay the hell away from this shitshow of a country.  We’ll let you know when it’s safe to visit. >
  
  No one else was involved in the incident, he said...
  Yes, the six YO walked into the gun shop (in a trench coat with friends) purchased the gun and shot their teacher.  No adult was involved in a six YO being able to pick up and take a gun to school >
  
  This happens when a child lives in a home raising them to believe that problems are solved with guns. This child was taught that this is how you deal with people you don't like or make things difficult. I hope this poor child's parents face the steepest consequences possible. But I also hope this child has a loving family to raise them up right.
  The parents were probably also raised with similar role models. If people don't think the past has consequences, this is a perfect and unfortunate example that it does. >
  
  in my area too :( 757 had been in the news so much surrounding gun violence ,, so disheartening >
  
  Another 757 here. I feel like there is a shooting every other day. This one is extra disturbing though. >
  
  I live and work in Denmark. Yesterday we got into a discussion about when Danes start to drink- usually around 13-14 years old. I expressed my shock and one colleague of mine said “well it’s better than getting a gun at 13 and killing people.”
  Well. Here we are aren’t we. >
  
  Our country becomes more of an embarrassment every day. Apparently, our stupidity knows no limits. >
  
  I cannot wrap my brain around this. A 6 years old? A 6 years old planned to shoot someone? This is insane . >
  
  So a six year old found his way into possessing a fire arm deliberately shot a teacher due to an “altercation” meaning he understands how guns work and what they’re capable of. Who’s ready to convince us to “arm the teachers” against six year olds…