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  Free market, huh?
context: Even all the big car companies are phasing out fossil fuel, I don't understand how they're so backwards. >
  
  I wonder where they line up for tungsten light bulbs..  Palin wanted to outlaw LEDs. See how that went? >
  
  The shower flow is not strong enough was a Trump rant, also the toilets do not have enough power to flush documents so that was a problem for Trump as well.
  Anyone seeing a pattern of nonsensical deregulation? >
  
  and another thing, people are coming up to me all the time, "please help us, Sir," I said what's the matter, "it's our sinks," you know the sink you have in your little bathroom, you all know what I'm talking about, I said what's with the sink, "it's Obama, Sir, he made it so they don't drain good anymore," I said that's a real shame, and so we're gonna be doing a lot, sinks, toilets, all of it.  now that we have the House, and we would've had the Senate if it wasn't Totally Rigged, but we have the House, we have a lot, a lot of very strong Republicans even if you have some that maybe can be a problem, the Never Trumpers and RINOs, I've never heard something more horrible than Never Trump, it's a complete and total disgrace to our Constitution and so so disrespectful to your Favorite President. ok, you're probably all tired of losing under Sleepy Joe, have a good night. >
  
  I can’t tell if that’s parody or verbatim. He takes baffle em with bullshit to new highs. >
  
  He would never wish someone a good night >
  
  There'd be a few more "Sirs" in the real thing and the guy would have tears in his eyes 🙄 >
  
  The big strong guy >
  
  They cant. Almost all car manufactures have some sort of hybrid or fully electric car now and they arent just going to stop the R&D, the production lines, halt jobs, halt the supply chain, etc. 
  Electric is here to stay and it will continue to grow. >
  
  They don’t really want to, they just need to draw the line so that it becomes a culture war prop. That’s all they ever care about. >
  
  My dad posts anti-electric vehicle memes and propaganda on his social media all the time.  It’s so strange why they are so anti EV.  
  Don’t like it?  Don’t buy one.  It’s obvious that gasoline cars can’t be the future forever.  And no, EV are not ideal yet.  For most people, a gas car still makes more sense.  But that doesn’t mean we should stop making EV. >
  
  The trucks are the funniest to watch them twist themselves into knots about. They have stupid stupid levels of torque, like unavailable in the truck market until now. Thought you were interested in towing shit?! >
  
  Like inssaaaane amounts of it. Once they can perfect a long haul battery for full size trucks it will be the perfect vehicle for towing those 5th wheel trailers all my conservative family members love “camping” in. >
  
  For reference:
  
  
  The base 2023 F-150 with 3.3L V6 sits at 265 lb-ft of torque ($33,695 MSRP, 19MPG city)
  
  
  The highest available option, the supercharged 5.2L high-output V8, gives 640 lb-ft ($76,775 MSRP, 10MPG city)
  
  
  The 2023 F-150 Lightning EV provides 775 lb-ft of torque ($55,974 MSRP (not including tax credits), 76 MPGe city)
  
  
  I'd say the EV wins out here, as long as you're not traveling more than 240 miles in a day. More likely than not, by 2030 the range won't even really be a factor and the performance specs will only continue to improve. For ICE models OTOH, performance has mostly plateaued since there is only so much energy you can extract per second from gasoline while maintaining a reasonably efficient MPG rating. >
  
  Not only do they have crazy torque, they can do a ~3 second 0-60. Watching a stock 4 door sedan rip down a 1/4mile faster than a purpose built drag car is hilarious. >
  
  Guys, we really need to phase out these cars… is no one thinking of the poor Horses that no longer have jobs?!? >
  
  
  is no one thinking of the poor Horses that no longer have jobs?!?
  
  This was actually a legit argument made against the automobile. Ferrier's, saddle makers, wainwrights and cartwrights, coach builders... The internal combustion engine pretty much killed off an entire industry. Just as the battery and motor will do to the engine. >
  
  There’s an episode of the podcast Throughline that talks about the introduction of the tractor to farms. It faced the same kinds of resistance. There was even a contest to see if horses or a tractor performed better in typical farming tasks. Big surprise, tractors won out.
  We’ll always be stuck with luddites. >
  
  Everytime I see a headline like this I think "They couldn't have said something so dumb...right?".
  
  "The proliferation of electric vehicles at the expense of gas-powered vehicles will have deleterious impacts on Wyoming's communities and will be detrimental to Wyoming's economy and the ability for the country to efficiently engage in commerce," the resolution reads.
  "Phasing out the sale of new electric vehicles in Wyoming by 2035 will ensure the stability of Wyoming's oil and gas industry and will help preserve the country's critical minerals for vital purposes."
  
  I still want to believe they are not this stupid...yet here we are. >
  
  Oh boy, if we don’t immediately use up this oil that has sat around for hundreds of millions of years, it will just suddenly disappear rather than sit around until actually needed >
  
  the state makes a bunch of their money from the sale of oil. letting it sit in the ground doesn't pay the bills. >
  
  Who will they sell the oil to? Themselves? 
  I don't think Wyoming can sustain the industry on it's own. 
  It will be interesting though. With most of the world going the other way Wyoming might end up with a fuckload if super cheap ICE vehicles. It'll be the only place in North America that you can still buy and sell them. >
  
  I mean, oil and gas aren't going away for the foreseeable future because plastics aren't going away. Even if we all drive electric scooters, bring reusable glass containers to the store to pick up our milk, and receive meat exclusively in butcher paper.
  Research and medical settings rely on single use plastics. Sturdy plastics go into... a lot of things, including that electric scooter, probably. 
  But it's okay to diversify to wind and geothermal for energy and add those businesses! If the right is supposed to be so focused on the market, they should know that diversifying your investments is good. >
  
  I understand your point and agree 100%. 
  But one of the reasons plastic is everywhere is because it's so incredibly cheap because it's the waste from the refining process. There are other alternatives if plastic started to get scarce. >
  
  So much for letting the coveted "Free Market" decide... >
  
  Remember, it is only a free market so long as people who dropped out of an econ class right after learning about the supply curve agree that it is. >
  
  You are shooting way too high friend. Bobo couldn't finish high school and got a GED. >
  
  Eventually >
  
  After several tries over many years, as I recall >
  
  4th time is a charm... >
  
  And not because she wanted to, someone had to convince her to do it. >
  
  I’m guess the 40 million consumers in California will have more to say about this than the 700,000 in Wyoming. >
  
  The representatives of Wyoming are betraying their people by not keeping up with the modern age... and the people of Wyoming don't know better to tell them to make the state viable in the future. It's sad. >
  
  Gas prices are only going to get more volatile as the years go on anyway. >
  
  Not to mention they’re going to go up just as a function of supply and demand. Demand will start to curb and then go downwards as more vehicles go electric or hybrid. >
  
  Wait, so demand will go down, and prices will go up? >
  
  Yes it's backwards, but right now so much oil is pumped that they can make huge profits on tiny margins.  As demand decreases they will pump less so in order to survive they will have to make more on each gallon. >
  
  So it’s not market forces at all, but rather the needs of the oil producers to preserve profits that will lead to them limiting supply in order to keep prices artificially high.
  Kind of like what we’re already seeing with price gouging elsewhere right now. >
  
  Not really.  It is market forces unlike the price gouging.  If you have to sell 1 million barrels at $100 in order to pay your costs to keep your oil wells going and there is only enough demand for 500,000 barrels. You either have to shut down operations or sell the oil at $200 a barrel. >
  
  No let’s phase out republicans >
  
  I wanna watch this blooodbath. >
  
  Why even hide the bribes now? >
  
  One of the worst effects of the Trump presidency was the fact that he showed Republicans how much they can get away with in public.  The system of justice really doesn't give a fuck about all the corruption. >
  
  It’s not only the justice system, Republican voters don’t hold any of them accountable at the ballot box. >
  
  Fox news is the biggest reason for this >
  
  Don't forget about right wing hate radio and churches, they're also part of the propaganda machine. >
  
  Protect? For how long? It’s not a renewable resource. >
  
  It is, but we are using it a million times faster than nature renews it. Oil isn't dead dinosaurs. It's dead trees. Edit: apparently, the things that happened in nature to make oil don't happen anymore. Not renewable at all. >
  
  Not just trees, but it’s impossible today and has been for a long time since there are no ecosystems that haven’t filled the niche for lignin metabolism. Trees couldn’t rot then, now they can’t help from it. >
  
  I'll correct my comment. >
  
  To correct you both trees form coal when they can be decomposed. Since that isn’t happening no new coal deposits will form. On the other hand algae is what decomposes to make oil, but there aren’t a lot of algae blooms here under the right conditions for oil either >
  
  Newly printed republican Elon Musk approves >
  
  "Leopard eating my face" moment coming up for Elon it seems >
  
  that dumbass ripped his own face off. >
  
  Yeah, but he’s fucking Grimes! >
  
  Not anymore. she left him for chelsea manning. (yes, that chelsea manning) >
  
  If this is true, WTF!? 🤦🏼‍♂️ >
  
  It is true. Some say this is what broke elon's brain. >
  
  Even fucking energy companies are slowly going away from it.
  They're so fucking stupid. >
  
  ~~stupid~~ corrupt. >
  
  porque no los dos? >
  
  If I were in more of an industrious mood, I'd go and google if they tried to pass legislation to protect buggy-whip makers when those new-fangled horseless carriages showed up around 1900, or whenever it was.   I suspect they did, and it was probably as funny to a lot of people then as phasing out electric cars sounds to me now. >
  
  Mackinac Island in Michigan did. It's actually become a tourist destination because of it and was used in the film Somewhere Back in Time. >
  
  I think that’s a special case - it’s a small island that is walkable/bikeable - there’s no real reason to have passenger cars on the island. >
  
  That is some of the stupidest shit I've ever read. >
  
  Tucker today was saying 'Was smoking -really- so bad?' and wanting to bring it back. >
  
  I hate the Republican Party almost as much as they hate America. >
  
  The republican party is a treasonous and terrorist organization. >
  
  Not surprise at all - these Republicans hate progressive ideas, hate women and love pedophiles! >
  
  When the free market isn't working the way you want, just have big government step in. >
  
  Won't anyone think of the fossil fuels!!? >
  
  Because they too will become fossil fuels, already got the fossil part down >
  
  It's a state of 500,000 people and I hope they do this so they can not even buy an electric car in the state. You elect clowns you deserve to live with it. >
  
  There are few humans in Wyoming. I have driven through the entire state. Yet those 579,000 humans (our congressional districts represent an average of 761,179 people) have two United States Senators. Wyoming is wildly over-represented. >
  
  Absolutely! If just 3 small. cities from Update New York moved to Wyoming, they could take the whole thing over.
  Wyoming
  Rank    City        Population 
  1   Cheyenne     64,610
  2   Casper   58,547
  3   Gillette     33,047
  New York
  Rank City 
  4      Rochester    211,328
  5     Syracuse.  148,620
  6     Albany.         99,224
  We wouldn't even have to touch Buffalo... much less NYC. >
  
  Hold up now. The biggest city in Wyoming has 64k people in it? Lol.
  That would rank 18th in British Columbia, and half of our province is effectively arctic. It would only be the third largest city on Vancouver Island. >
  
  They wouldn't even crack the top 10 municipalities in metro Vancouver. >
  
  Talk about lack-of-virtue signaling - this is less than meaningless.   Wyoming has a population approximately 1/88th of Califormia and Oregon (the two states that are on track to ban the sales of gasoline power cars) >
  
  Feel free to throw NY into that pile for banning gas vehicles as well. >
  
  At this point I’m surprised they aren’t calling for bringing back leaded gasoline. >
  
  Just when you think the stupidity of these guys has reached its pinnacle they pull an even more moronic idea out of their you-know-what >
  
  Marching headlong into the 18th century >
  
  Our founding fathers mentioned nothing about EVs in the Constitution therefore EVs are unconstitutional! >
  
  "I found no mention of this so-called 'electricity' in my beloved childhood witch burning manuals from 1422, so obviously it is fake." - Samuel Alito writing the majority 6-3 opinion in 'The people v. STOCK PORTFOLIO GO BRRRRRRRRR', 2023. >
  
  Thanks for the chuckle. >
  
  Thus assuring fossil fuels outlive our species. >
  
  When will the Republicans wake up and realize that the same people egging them on to deny Climate Change are already divesting from Oil and are investing in WATER? >
  
  Why do republicans always do the exact fucking opposite of the correct answer? If they’re going to be corrupt, can’t they fucking be corrupt in the right direction at least? What is wrong with those weirdos. >
  
  Thankfully the market has decided otherwise. Even Dodge's muscle cars are going electric. 
  Republicans just want to bail out another failing industry. >
  
  Our donors profit from fossil fuels, therefore, fossil fuel consumption must increase >
  
  Fuck Wyoming. >
  
  This could have been a copy pasted article from the onion, lol >
  
  At this point I’m pretty sure they’re simply trying to speed up the “end times” so they can be “raptured” more quickly.  What assholes. >
  
  What is this world coming to?!
  Elon Musk, himself, The Richest Man In The World (at that time), recently recommended that Americans vote Republican... >
  
  *Whose immense wealth was tied to electric vehicles. >
  
  He owned the libs, buy tricking them into buying his cars...and then he owned them, again, by cutting the price... why does everybody hate Elon? >
  
  Phase out from what? The rapid, inevitable adoption? >
  
  Regressives. >
  
  Imagine how amazing this country could be if the people scrabbling for power here put all of this idiotic energy toward improving the lives of US Citizens. >
  
  Next they're going to phase out smartphones to preserve the rotary dial phone industry. >
  
  “Republicans want to phase out cars to protect horse and buggies.” >
  
  But,-- I want to phase out Republicans to protect the planet. >
  
  They want to protect fossil fuels by burning them?  Why not just store them safely in the ground? >
  
  TIL you won’t be able to buy most new cars in Wyoming by 2035. >
  
  *Corporations, with their hands up politicians asses like puppets, want to phase out electric cars to protect fossil fuels >
  
  Horse and Buggy dealerships want to phase out the automobile >
  
  Why not just phase out cars all together to protect the horse and carriage industry >
  
  They really are comic book villains. >
  
  Republicans who are, in no doubt, funded by oil interests. These are purchased policymakers and Americans should be outraged that it's happening and ashamed that it's been allowed to reach this point.
  This is like people going "cars are bad business for stables!" >
  
  Republicans Want to 'Phase Out' Steel Tools to Protect Stone Tools >
  
  All 30 people (exaggeration) living in Wyoming will not save fossil fuels. >
  
  Great idea. While we're at it, let's phase out cell phones to protect Ma Bell and the rotary phone industry. >
  
  I can't help but laugh at Musk. >
  
  This just in from "duh!" >
  
  At this point I'm starting to be more pissed off by the concept of Republicans ostensibly representing a "side" of the argument. The spectrum of debate in our political economy at this point is whether we should all run full speed to the precipice or walk in an orderly line. >
  
  Republicans are like Homer Simpson when he was asked by his long lost brother to design the car of the future, because he was a “typical American”. He comes up with a god awful monstrosity, full of little gadgets and nostalgic components, and the company goes bankrupt. >
  
  
  "Phasing out the sale of new electric vehicles in Wyoming by 2035 will ensure the stability of Wyoming's oil and gas industry and will help preserve the country's critical minerals for vital purposes."
  
  As of 2021, Wyoming had a population of 578,803. 
  You couldn't support any industry by fucking with half a million people's right to purchase new technology. These people think their voters are idiots. >
  
  That's the problem. Most of their voters are idiots. >
  
  Can we phase out these do nothing Republicans instead? >
  
  Wyoming has like 600k people total there influence over car manufacturers is nothing. Once the auto industry is set up to produce electric vehicles that out perform combustion engines at a great cost they will quickly abandon combustion engines and the only vehicles in Wyoming will be used vehicles with sky high gas prices. Mean while California, Washington, oregon and other states will be all electric. >
  
  Shows that they are in the pocket of the oil industry. More people driving ejection cars means that more gas is available for those that need it. Meaning that the price should drop unless kept artificially inflated by the oil companies. >
  
  This new session of Congress alumni are so f'n unbelievable, our country may not survive the lunacy of these shameless, greedy, power mongering, trumphumping, incompetent sociopaths. It's only been two weeks. >
  
  They will pry my electric car from my cold, dead hands! >
  
  It's depressing to see idiots run our country into the ground right before my eyes. It isn't going to get better and next year will probably bring something far worse than the last 8 ever did. >
  
  Hopefully this just becomes another issue they're vehemently opposed to but scared to talk about, like public schools or affordable healthcare >
  
  That is the craziest shit I’ve ever heard….total insanity. >
  
  People want to phase out republicans to protect sanity. >
  
  
  In late December, Oregon officials approved regulations that would ban the sale of all new gasoline-powered passenger vehicles in the state by 2035 in favor of electric vehicles and other multimodal forms of transportation, joining states like California looking to ban the proliferation of fossil fuel-powered vehicles.
  
  Newsweek is stretching the truth here: Oregon is not banning the sale of all new gasoline-powered passenger vehicles in the state by 2035.  Plug-in hybrids are allowed under the new rules.
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  With a relatively small tax base, revenues from sources like coal, natural gas and oil make up the bulk of the state budget every year, while underperformance in the fossil sector can often have calamitous effects on the budget. Research shows that per capita, Wyoming relies more on fossil fuels than any other state, making up nearly 59 percent of its annual revenue.
  
  I can see why that might freak them out.  There's not a whole lot else in Wyoming aside from a couple of national parks.  But on the other hand, whether people in Wyoming drive electric cars or not is not going to make any noticeable difference in the price of gas on a global market.  This is just posturing. >
  
  It's a stunt bill. Like those bills Democrats propose to ban Viagra in response to anti-abortion laws. >
  
  These guys are so in the pocket of oil companies it shocking and funny at the same time. Cant wait to hear all their dumb ideas that will get laughed at and shot down. >
  
  Has lobbying ever benefited any regular citizens in the last 30 years. Like realistically it feels like the only ones benefiting from it are politicians and the corporations that do it. I feel its basically the same as bribery, except you can pretend that a luxury DC apartment that you sold a congressman for $15.00 is a gift. >
  
  Next it will be the "phase out" of minorities, non-evangelical Christians, democracy and opinions/lifestyles other than those sanctioned by the Republican party. And don't forget anything that protects the environment. >
  
  Watch musk swing left overnight >
  
  As far as cars are concerned, Wyoming becomes the new Cuba >
  
  They have recently learnt the phrase "phase out" from a report on gas cookers links with childhood asthma. It recommended phasing out gas cookers and of course conservatives went apeshit bananas over this "attack on their freedom".
  Looks like they are going for revenge phase outs lol. >
  
  We need to phase out politicians. We have the ability to vote for things ourselves thanks to the internet.
  No need to be represented. 
  I'm not being serious but it is a fucking threat. >
  
  So Wyoming, the least populated state, is saying no to electric vehicles purchased by the state (individuals are still free to buy them). This is such a tiny slice of the car sale pie because while states like Wyoming have high rates of vehicle ownership per capita there are still under 600,000 people that reside in the state… compared to California’s 39 million. >
  
  The only difference between this and democrats wanting to take your gas stove away is that this is true. >
  
  Maybe we should “phase out” republicans that want to continue to destroy our planet? >
  
  The majority of electric is produced from fossil fuels. The cars don't need to be the ones burning it to utilize it as a source of fuel. >
  
  *Donors. You accidentally said fossil fuels. They want to protect their donors. >
  
  Follow the money >
  
  “Republicans want to kill a planet they won’t even live on in 10 years because they care more about their assets than the country or its population’s future” >
  
  Of course. Who’s going to pay for their 8 houses if the oil industry is gone?! >
  
  Because all they care about is voting against anything that is endorsed by Biden. Whether good or bad is not the issue. >
  
  Don't look up >
  
  Sorry, republicans.  Your beloved private sector is phasing out fossil fuels all on their own.  Or is it that you changed your minds and you now want the government to be able to tell businesses what to do? >
  
  They know that fossil fuels are a finite resource, right? If humanity doesn't get weened off it, nature is going to force the issue eventually. >
  
  They're all for the free market until it messes with their donors. >
  
  Who Killed The Electric Car 2: Electric Boogaloo >
  
  Ladies and gentlemen: the party of the free market. >
  
  Lemme rewrite that headline. Shit bags with their hands in big oil want to keep destroying the earth for their own interests. Got it >
  
  I just don’t understand why fossil fuel companies don’t restructure and invest in renewable energy sources. They are already clearly quite wealthy/profitable, so it makes sense they would have a clear financial advantage moving forward. >
  
  And bring back the horse drawn buggy. The blacksmithing and wagon wheel industries were decimated by the advent of the new fangled auto-mobile.. >
  
  Let's 'Phase Out' Republicans to Protect Humanity. >
  
  Brain-dead, retrrogressive and cowardly scumbags like this will help to speed the demise of the republican party. >
  
  This just in: Republicans want to bring back slavery, asbestos, and mandatory obedient house wives. More on this at 7! >
  
  Wtf?! When you can joke about something totally ridiculous and it turns out to be true.. I don’t know what to say. >
  
  We both know the other two are true as well. There’s a reason why you see people claiming The Onion and similar satire is dead: it’s impossible to top the ridiculousness of reality right now. >
  
  So the boomers weren’t satisfied enough with hoarding all the money they now need to make sure waste our resources. They truly believe I got mine fuck every person behind me. >
  
  What fossil fuels? The fossil fuels that are being used everyday that's increasing our CO2 levels, those fossil fuels? The fossil fuels that virtually every scientist has accepted that it's the main cause for climate change?
  Those fossil fuels? >
  
  Yep! America poisons its own citizens’ groundwater to collect those cool fuels while destabilizing other countries in proxy wars just for another taste. Pretty cool >
  
  Oh, Republicans... always on the wrong side of history. >
  
  Elon Musk with another leopards ate my face moment. >
  
  Republicans, let's go backwards... >
  
  Saw that, your state needs some voters, do your job. Most ridiculous thing I’ve heard coming out of the U.S. is not this sadly. >
  
  Dumb motherfuckers are gonna do what dumb motherfuckers do. >
  
  Wyoming as a state has fewer people than in it than most cities. Besides this only prevents the sale of electric cars after 2035 in the state, so go buy your car in Colorado >
  
  They destroyed the nuclear when it threatened them, apparently electric cars are next >
  
  brilliant. tobacco industry supporters. >
  
  Short sighted, greedy dipshits want the whole world to burn. >
  
  Onion level stuff from republicans. >
  
  ... I don't get it. They're going to protect fossil fuels by guaranteeing people use... more fossil fuels? 
  God this makes my head hurt. >
  
  Ah yes, government as a suicide pact. >
  
  Haha.
  This is hilarious for Republican Elon Musk. >
  
  Let's just keep in mind that this is a state with a population smaller than the towns we all live in. >
  
  That’s because the oil companies have them in their pockets. >
  
  Can we ‘Phase out’ Republicans to protect brain cells and integrity? >
  
  how about we phase out Republicans to protect Humanity >
  
  The story says that 59% of Wyoming's budget is from fossil fuels. They aren't worried about jobs, they are more worried about spending and pet projects. >
  
  My brain hurts from the stupid. >
  
  We'll  be living like the Flintstones if they had their way. Yaba daba doo mofos >
  
  "Don't look up!!" >
  
  The stupidity never ends. >
  
  musk really backing the right horse in this race, lol