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  Politicians are the best investment a company can make.
  
  This is the 2nd great quote In this thread.
  
  Because in America we socialize the loses and privatize the profits.
context: It is patently absurd (no pun intended) that the government just surrenders these patents and intellectual property to for profit companies without maintaining any control over them whatsoever.  
  If this isn’t a great example of corporate capture, I don’t know what is >
  
  I thought Moderna was the one company that didn’t benefit from operation warp speed? Not that i in any way condone the price hike. >
  
  I believe Operation Warp Speed dealt with manufacturing not development. The idea of manufacturing vaccines that had positive data before they were approved since it takes a long time to build up a large amount of vaccine cultures. The thinking is at least one vaccine would get approved and the headstart would offer enough savings in the economy to justify the cost, not to mention lives saved. >
  
  No it dealt with both.  Moderna developed their vaccine solo  . Again i don’t think the raise in price is a good thing but you have to admit it puts them in a different position than the other vaccine developers >
  
  Moderna took $1.5 billion for development. >
  
  So did they take less money for something else ? I’ve always heard they were somehow an exception to receiving the benefits of operation warp speed. Are you saying this is totally false?! If it’s not then they should be granted a little more freedom for turning down a government handout. >
  
  BioNTech is the vaccine company that rejected Operation Warp Speed funding. They created the vaccine, and partnered with Pfizer in the US to develop mass production and distribution. >
  
  BioNtech was supported by the German government and they want their taxpayer money back, Germany is a well run country for the taxpayer >
  
  Source? >
  
  it was around the time of the "release the patents" push, 2021, the German government said no as it was their investment >
  
  Pfizer also plans to charge between $100 and $130 for its vaccine.  What a coincidence. >
  
  And just like that vaccine rates drop to 0% >
  
  Are a lot of people still getting vaccines? I’ve had three shots — and never got Covid — but it’s been a while since I had one >
  
  
  I’ve had three shots — and never got Covid
  
  Or, more likely, you did get COVID, but because you were vaccinated the symptoms were very mild. >
  
  For sure, I have definitely wondered if I got it and just didn’t know >
  
  If you haven't been masking, I'd assume that you have had it at some point.
  A real testament to how well the vaccine works. >
  
  I've had 4 shots, the two original, 1 booster, and then the bivalent. Never stopped masking at stores. Unmasked in restaurants though. Balance. No reason to ever stop in stores. Still no covid symptoms ever here! >
  
  Because in America we socialize the loses and privatize the profits. >
  
  Profit will kill millions. India and other countries knew this was going to happen, were trying to push for making the vaccine and related tech public domain so developing countries can develop their own. But no, IP and monopolization of something as essential as a vaccine amongst the rich pharmaceutical corps among the rich countries is non-negotiable. This is what millions will die over - someone had to make money. >
  
  How is it not Public Domain?  I’m sure the $30B didn’t cover all expenses, but shouldn’t there have been a cap on price gouging when it was highly publicly funded?  I’m sure our government is inept enough not to consider that, but what is the production cost now?  Not only is it a bit shitty to do, where going to be spreading this thing like wildfire (again), because a huge % won’t/can’t pay for it…FUCK! >
  
  Not inept. Corrupt. >
  
  Politicians are the best investment a company can make.