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  It is? That's how Reddit works. It's important news
context: This is bad and weird at the same time. I’m wondering why, when the Trump classified document story broke months ago, every living president didn’t have their offices and residences combed thoroughly for any such files that could have been misplaced, misfiled or mishandled. This crap is SO unnecessary. Neglectful. I realize that the Trump situation is totally different than the Biden one, but it makes me wonder WTH is going on. >
  
  Carelessness due to arrogance; and lack of oversight and real consequences. Same reason after the email “scandal” it continues to come out that every other official is sending sensitive information from hotmail accounts. 
  Republicans will have fun with this, then it will be forgotten in three months. It might come up if anyone tries to prosecute Trump for his dramatically more egregious and intentional mishandling of classified information, but my guess is that was never in the cards anyway. >
  
  They've been looking for a legit reason to impeach Biden. They were clinging to laptops Burisma dickpic scraps. Then this story broke. 
  They. Will. Impeach. Biden. For. This.
  It won't go anywhere. Of course the Senate won't convict. But they will impeach him in the house for this. I guarantee it. >
  
  You're probably right, but in order to present their case against Biden, Republicans would [finally] have to admit that Trump willfully broke the law. >
  
  Absolutely not. 
  If Donald Trump doesn't end up in jail for his documents, then they'll just say "a special investigator looked into Trump and didn't find any wrongdoing that rose to the level of indictment" or "a jury looked at it and found him innocent". They'll downplay what was in Trump's documents. "A grand jury looked at it and the information contained in the documents didn't amount to anything".
  And they'll make mountains out of Joe Biden's molehill.
  The risk of being called hypocrites has never prevented Republicans from moving forward with smears against democrats and this time will be no different. >
  
  I can't imagine how that would be effective given that Biden is also being investigated by a special investigator, no? >
  
  A more complete timeline of Biden documents — when and where they were discovered, and what was done with them — provided by the president’s attorney, Bob Bauer.
  TLDR: They handled it properly
  Nov. 2, 2022 - The President's personal attorneys unexpectedly discovered Obama-Biden documents at the Penn Biden Center. Consistent with statutory requirements, the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) was notified of the discovery. For the following eight days, the President's personal attorneys were in regular contact with NARA and anticipated that NARA would notify the Department of Justice (DOJ), and that DOJ would notify the President's personal attorneys of next steps and the point of contact.
  Nov. 3, 2022 - NARA informed the NARA Inspector General.
  Nov. 4, 2022 -  As stated by the Attorney General, the NARA Inspector General informed DOJ.
  Nov. 9, 2022 - As stated by the Attorney General, DOJ launched an assessment to understand whether documents were mishandled.
  Nov. 10, 2022 - DOJ informed the President's personal attorneys that it had launched the assessment. Once the President's personal
  attorneys heard from DOJ, the President's personal attorneys were in regular contact with DOJ.
  Nov. 14, 2022 - As he stated, the Attorney General assigned US Attorney Lausch to oversee the assessment.
  Dec. 20, 2022 - The President's personal attorneys inspected the Wilmington residence garage and identified a small number of potential records bearing classified markings. Once the President's personal attorneys identified these documents, they stopped their search and informed US Attorney Lausch of the documents found there.
  Dec. 21, 2022 - The President's personal attorneys arranged for DOJ to take possession of, and DOJ did take possession of, the records located in the Wilmington residence garage.
  January 5, 2023 - As stated by the Attorney General, US Attorney Lausch issued an initial report and recommendation to the Attorney General.
  January 11, 2023 - The President's personal attorneys searched the Wilmington and Rehoboth Beach residences for additional records. The President's personal attorneys located a potential record bearing classified markings at the Wilmington residence, among stored materials inside a room adjacent to the garage. Once the President's personal attorneys found this document, the President's personal attorneys left the document where it was found and suspended their search of the specific space where it was located. Following the search at the Wilmington residence, the attorneys proceeded to the Rehoboth residence and conducted a search there. No potential records were identified at the Rehoboth Beach residence, and the attorneys returned to Washington, D.C. late in the evening.
  January 12, 2023 - The President's personal attorneys, that morning, informed US Attorney Lausch that they had found additional material bearing classified markings at the Wilmington residence, inside the room adjacent to the garage. The President's personal attorneys began the process of arranging for the delivery of that material to DOJ. The Attorney General announced the appointment of Special Counsel Robert K. Hur to conduct an investigation. >
  
  It's not more it's they have a count of how many exactly were found >
  
  Feelings don’t care about your facts. >
  
  It's just frustrating to see how eager media is to both sides this that they are basically misreporting at this point.. >
  
  That’s putting it mildly. 
  It’s also about generating profit from the most salaciously click-worthy headline you can get away with. Who’s going to read an article titled “accurate count of documents provided?” >
  
  Super frustrating to hear. Even more so obviously because of Trump's raid. I'm still giving him benefit of the doubt because they turned the initial documents in immediately. But now best case is he forgot, which is a terrible look. Worst case, he purposely kept silent, which is a literal crime. Either way, Biden owes us an explanation. >
  
  They are the same documents from the second batch. We just have a page count for it now. We don't even know if each page is considered a "document" because that's not how these things are generally classified. >
  
  This is pretty embarrassing. I don’t think Biden had some mischievous intent, but it looks really bad especially after the months of publicly about Trump doing this. >
  
  The real problem is public image. 
  Trump lied about having the documents, refused to cooperate, conspired to move the documents to a new location, and eventually had his home raided because there were no other options. 
  Biden found some files and notified the correct agency and returned them, likely out of carelessness but who fucking knows. 
  Both bad, but one is objectively much worse than the other. Unfortunately most people will see the situations the way you do, as essentially the same. It’s an unforced error compounded by a lack of interest in details. >
  
  I think most people will go "this is really bad" and "this is really, really bad" but can make the distinction just like we know aggravated assault is different than murder. Where we are shooting ourselves in the foot is all the comments "that really bad thing is fine compared to this really, really bad thing."
  It's not fine, and non-partisans can see that -- and it completely erodes someone's moral authority and plays into narratives that people only care about these things for political advantage along with "rules for thee but not for me." There's already that narrative with classified documents, where the normal rank and file are looking at prison and their careers ruined while the elites say sorry. >
  
  Why is this downvoted? Seems pertinent and the source is WaPo. >
  
  Every article since the first batch discovered, has been downloaded by reddit. >
  
  Downvoted.* 
  Yes very much so a BOOMER. Gasp >
  
  Obviously, this is not the same as Trump's "what documents kiddo" strategy, but this is terrible for optics.
  At first, when they found those documents at the office, I didn't even think it was worth discussion. Completely understandable, considering his time as VP, the small number of them, and how the lawyers acted, and still act.
  Now, this has crossed the "ooofff" line and some sort of measures will have to be taken no matter what. With the debt celling extremely close to being met, and a House who's dead set on slashing funds and even parts of the administrative state in charge of collecting revenue, I wouldn't be surprised if they use this as a way to put more pressure and demands when they engage in negotiations over the debt issue, good faith or not -probably the last one- >
  
  How did the national archives know right away that they were missing documents that Trump had but apparently had no idea for half a decade that they were missing documents that Biden had? >
  
  Because of the scale and importance of them >
  
  Do we know what the documents are already?  Or are you assuming that to be the case?  I'm asking genuinely because I haven't seen something saying exactly what all the documents are outside of that they are classified and obviously not being stored appropriately. >
  
  I read somewhere that one set of docs was related to some Biden's protection plans for one of his trips.
  Serious business, and potentially compromising to future trips of course, but may not be tracked quite as closely or referred to in other communications so clearly that they'd stand out.
  If National Archives is going over one doc that refers to a companion doc (ie, "refer to attached Doc #XX of source information"), if they don't see that referenced doc anywhere, they would know to ask around.
  I'm not saying all Biden's docs were "routine" things... just that the one set I'd heard of so far was like that. So if the rest are at all similar, it kinda makes sense. >
  
  What a fucking dipshit. >
  
  This is a bad look, normally you can brush it off but they crucified Trump for doing the same stuff. >
  
  The optics will be the same... >
  
  In the eyes of the disingenuous and the stupid, which are unfortunately the majority Republican voters. >
  
  It will likely look the same to many dems as well >
  
  Doubt it. >
  
  So, knowing and understanding the law is a knee jerk reaction? >
  
  No, but desperately scrambling to defend something objectively bad because it was done by your own side is transparently partisan and sad to watch >
  
  Yep. It's quite cringe. >
  
  How many more are there, at this point I’d assume all his estates need to be searched. >
  
  
  I’d assume all his estates need to be searched.
  
  Yeah, that's what they're doing, and why we're hearing about the results.  This is what's supposed to happen when something like this happens. >
  
  Just crazy, some are apparently from his time as VP, just makes you wonder how many might of gone missing since that time. >
  
  Sure. But it's being played out in the open, there is an investigation that is being pursued to figure out what happened and we'll see where it goes from there.
  Nothing to really get that excited about yet really until we know more. >
  
  Yeah, just the optics of this are really bad, and Biden was doing well, just waiting on more information. Hopefully it ends soon. >
  
  Time to search all his properties. I wouldn't trust his memory if he swore that's all there was. >
  
  Only thing that makes this way worse is that he is the vp a long time ago. Trump situation doesn't look as bad now >
  
  One knownly did it, and had wilful intent (Trump) the other did not (Biden).  Trump broke the law, Biden didn't, or at least there is zero proof as of yet.  If that changes than throw the book at Biden too. >
  
  He’s gonna get impeached or resign isn’t he? >
  
  Why is this posted every damn hour to make it look like thousands of fucking violations when it’s the same GDamn story??