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  Or stealing them.
context: It's only clear if one can prove they were originals, not copies.  I'm all for holding them accountable but you toss the baby out with the bath water. Be rational and logical. >
  
  I’m sure they brunt copies because that’s what you do with incriminating evidence copy it and burn the copies. Jesus man. >
  
  I'm just saying... rationally speaking, if you can't prove they were original documents, you cannot jump straight to "yep that's it, hang em".  Are the odds good that they were originals?  I'd say yes, but you have to prove it. >
  
  He was a participant in a criminal conspiracy and he burned documents I would vote to convict. >
  
  Without evidence?  What you mentioned is circumstantial.  If you're willing to convict someone of a specific crime without specific evidence to back it up, you're no better than they are.  You would be acting on emotion and bias rather than evidence and proof.  This is how lots of people end up locked up who are actually innocent of the crime in question because they are judged based on other behavior.  That is not justice served. >
  
  If you provably conspired to murder someone provably and we find human blood stains on your rug its ok to consider it further proof of the same crime we already proved. 
  There is ample evidence of the criminal conspiracy. There is no motivation in any possible universe where someone guilty of criminal conspiracy burns  government documents and we believe that the governments were copies.
  Please note the word reasonable in reasonable doubt. >
  
  
  provably
  
  Therein lies the problem >
  
  We have ample evidence of conspiracy to subvert democracy >
  
  That's not what's being discussed. We're talking about Meadows burning documents. >
  
  Lock him up. >
  
  Make sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off >
  
  Guys can't even courtesy flush because by the time they finally get that beefroll down the hatch, it's too late--the stink is everywhere by then. Not me, of course. But Bubba, next cell over--hooWEE! Let me tell you folks, it's true. This is America, can you believe it? Maybe it's fine in Gynna. Their poops are smaller, I guess. Short little people over there. Little people, little poops. And I don't like how you have to pull down the jumpsuit to drop a deuce, either. Everyone says I wear it well, though--the warden, the CO's. No one has ever looked more presidential in a jumpsuit, they say. >
  
  This women deserves the credit mike pence is getting >
  
  It’s really annoying that Mike Pence keeps getting any credit for anything. He showed he had a spine on the one day it matters, and then keeps trying to play the “we just need to put this behind us and focus on the “real”* issues”. Again, Mike Pence did the only thing that mattered of him on Jan 6, good. I’m glad he was there and did that.
  It doesnt make him a good person. It doesnt make him smart. And without verbally attacking the person who sent a far right mob to kill him, he is fine with his life being put in danger for “owning the libs”.  What a spineless piece of shit.
  *real meaning anything I can make up that forces democrats to react to, and usually it has nothing to do with true policy. >
  
  Eh, you guys are just struggling to give credit where credit is due because of the R next to his name and disagreements on previous policies. Call a spade a spade, the man made a hard decision for the moment and he should be honored for it just like those that voted not to impeach Andrew Johnson in the 1860s and others that came before us who stood to keep our country hole. >
  
  It’s honestly a question of if you think certifying votes should qualify as job done. I’d argue that when you see, firsthand, a fundamental threat to our democracy as the second in command you are duty bound to do more than turn the page. >
  
  I agree completely. I’d just like to push back that it’s a lot easier to say this on a Reddit thread than with 60,000 people screaming hang Mike Pence on your front door from constructed gallows. Anyone who says he doesn’t deserve credit is doing so because they are unable to come down from their tower. >
  
  The problem with giving Pence too much credit is that it glosses over the fact that, prior to January 6th, Pence was trying really hard to do what Trump wanted. He was looking for any legal justification to not certify the election and was even entertaining the idea without one.
  It's like giving someone a pat on the back for finally doing the right thing after they knowingly did the wrong thing.
  In addition, that moment of courage by Pence gets completely washed away by his intransigence to comply with the investigation. All he cares about is his political ambitions. >
  
  Maybe so. But history will be written with Pence as a hero and that’s okay with me. >
  
  Welp... That's obstruction / destruction of evidence. >
  
  For all the security cameras in public places you'd think we'd also have them for public offices. >
  
  The difference is the people making those decisions are in the offices. >
  
  It's probably more effective than flushing them. >
  
  Or eating them