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  Oh boy, oh boy, Friday is going to be highly entertaining....
context: He's probably got all his Russian Mafia loans tied up in Beanie Babies >
  
  Closets full of goya beans behind the boxes of classified documents. >
  
  He’s going to defect and defecate when they finally charge him with crimes >
  
  Trump has shit his pants a non-zero number of times >
  
  Putin has taken to shitting his pants lately too so they could be diaper buddies. >
  
  Well now I wanna see that political cartoon >
  
  Don't wanna kink shame but... ew >
  
  It’s not usually my thing, but seeing it would be satisfying, regardless >
  
  Epic rant incoming from Mr Clairvoyant. >
  
  "Listen, Pogs were all the rage in the 90s. Sometimes your portfolio takes a hit." >
  
  So basically we will learn trump has paid little to no federal income tax and it will make zero difference to those that plan on voting for him again. >
  
  We knew that already from last week.  This will have more detail hopefully >
  
  Tax fraud, the fact that he's not a billionaire, hundreds of millions in debt to China/Russia/Saudi Arabia. The fact that he doesn't pay taxes is probably going to be the least interesting thing in there >
  
  He's very likely a billionaire - Forbes did a deep dive on all the properties he owns and reported their combined value at $3.2B. So while he may not have that in cash, his real estate valuation (from independent sources, not reported by him) would qualify. >
  
  Trump has claimed his a billionaire.  There is no hard evidence that he is a billionaire. >
  
  And there's no hard evidence he isn't. But the information publicly available indicates that he is. >
  
  Yes there is.  Please see the writing of Richard Kay Johnston. >
  
  Yeah, no. I looked him up, there's nothing of value available, and you don't know what the phrase "hard evidence" means. >
  
  So you’ve read Johnston’s books and listened to all of his interviews?  Johnston said that Donald Trump has NEVER presented ANY evidence that he’s a billionaire.  
  Trump lied over 30,000 times while he was POTUS.  Why would you believe anything out of his mouth? >
  
  I've never read his stuff and I've never listened to his interviews. Why do you put so much stock into one person's opinion? He doesn't know for certain. And I DON'T believe Trump at all. I clearly showed that an independent study shows his assets are around $3.2B. >
  
  I want to see what tax professionals have to say about the details of his filings.  He's about to get audited simultaneously by a great many professionals, many of whom are legitimate experts.
  We can all look at the top line numbers and say he's a tax cheat, because we know those numbers are unacceptable and wrong for society.  But I what I want to hear is whether our corrupt tax code really does permit the wealthy to do this, or whether there's been impropriety.
  If he broke the law, there will be tremendous pressure on the IRS and law enforcement to act.  If he didn't break the law, then the law itself is fucked and needs to be changed. >
  
  I'm a former auditor.  That won't happen.  If the objective is to show that the tax return reporting was improper, we'd need to see not only the tax returns, but we'd need to see the company ledgers and bank statements.  
  If someone is underreporting income, we can't simply look at the tax return because we have nothing to compare them with.  Obviously, the people who put together the Trump Org. tax case where the business was convicted saw ledgers and bank statements, which is why they were able to put together a case that led to the convictions. >
  
  Which is why I never understood why he fought this so hard
  It's so easy for them to spin this
  Made a bunch of money: he's a smart businessman
  Claimed to lose a bunch of money on his taxes: he's a smart businessman
  I never saw a negative to him releasing his returns. Which makes me wonder, there must be something damning in them. >
  
  There is a mentality that some have: never give your enemy an inch. Alway fight for anything taken from you, no matter how minuscule. Because if there is really nothing for him to lose by these tax docs revealed, then he’s able to say, “See? I said there wasn’t anything more than me being a smart business man! It’s all a witch-hunt and I’ve been right about everything so far.”
  He has that to gain by fighting it, and then it being revealed that there’s nothing shady going on. >
  
  And in this case, the "enemy" being the American people. Think about that one. >
  
  Why wait? >
  
  Because a large part of politics is showmanship. >
  
  I bet a piece of it is to give any interested parties the weekend to work 12-hour days in preparation of an action-packed Monday, but even as I write that, it sounds an awful lot like Black Friday followed by Cyber Monday, so showmanship still might be the main thing, lol! >
  
  That just sounds like showmanship with extra steps! >
  
  Big Fat gonna be hot 🥵. >
  
  Bigly fat.  People tell him he's the fattest guy they know. >
  
  An open source audit. The internet is going to go ham on this. >
  
  Just a fair question.
  Shouldn't your taxes be between you and the IRS?
  Did the US have other people's taxes become open source for anyone to look at? >
  
  He was president. He should have done this. >
  
  Presidents didn't start doing this until Nixon and Nixon ordered the IRS to go after his political competition. 
  To me, it was either a case of tax neglect, which the IRS should've been able to solve(with a fine or jail sentence).
  Or he is using it as a political card, " if this person did so and so i will order my team to make my taxes Public." >
  
  Previous presidents have still done it. And they should do it. Allowing them not to do it isn't very smart. >
  
  I posted this on a different thread, but I think it applies here as well.  What if this release is not actually supposed to sway public opinion.  It's not like anyone is surprised or hasn't already surmised what they contain.  What if this release is aimed at Trump's lenders instead? I don't know much about corporate finance and lending since I'm just a poor, but it seems to me, that Trump has likely been lying on his loan applications.  Now, that might not have serious criminal implications, but it does likely have serious implications on his ability to borrow money and on the terms of whatever loan agreements he currently has.  I don't think most banks and lenders have access to your actual returns and while due diligence exists, I think they mostly rely on borrowers telling the somewhat whole truth about the state of their finances and profitability.  Someone can correct me if I'm wrong here btw.  I think this is the reason for the bizarre NFT scam he is running right now.  I think he owes big bucks to some pretty powerful interests and the exposure of his lies to his creditors is likely a bigger blow than we can know.  So now he is going to have all sorts of markers called in and the presidency can no longer shield him from more rational scrutiny.  So that's my take and I think there's enough smart people on that committee who know that the public really doesn't care, but Axos Financial just might... >
  
  I used to work in commercial lending and a lot of what I've read about Trump's loans are already sketchy and inconsistent with lending guidelines
  One very important thing is to get audited financial statements from a reputable accounting firm.  Individuals also sign contracts asserting their assets and liabilities.  Misrepresenting these things to get a loan is fraud and is a crime.
  It has been reported that Trump does not provide audited financial statements for lending, he provides a management attestation instead.  Due to the dollar amounts, tens/hundreds of millions, he makes a "personal connection" with senior management and that person then waves all the usual guidelines.
  It is the Trump/crime boss method.  You find someone greedy, you offer them a way to fulfill their greed, and they will happily break the rules and laws for you. >
  
  And that's my point!  If it is found out that he deliberately misrepresented his financials to a lender, wouldn't that put him in immediate legal jeopardy?  The type that can't be shielded by claims of executive privilege or any of the other malarky he's been claiming protect him from investigation and prosecution? I would bring up that due diligence is something that likely should have prevented a lot of these loans, but the whole episode with SBF makes me think most people aren't actually doing any of that!  But now that the lie is exposed and is no longer a wink and a nod, wouldn't that impel several lenders to get back the money or have their shareholders come for their heads? >
  
  Yes, but like most things it depends - at a certain dollar amount companies are willing to throw out the rules and start from scratch.  Wells Fargo is a real stickler about your $40K car loan but they are amazingly flexible with a loan for a $100M.
  Trump will have complicated financials, even without factoring in fraud.  He runs dozens of businesses across multiple countries so it can be hard to sort out what is "his" versus one of his many businesses.  Real estate is also hard to value, the "perfect" location is worth a lot to the right person.
  These returns are one small piece of Trump's overall financial puzzle. >
  
  i was going to say, “i bet he’s shitting his pants right now.” but that’s happening regardless. >
  
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  My money is on him taking some bogus home office deduction and pretending to donate clothes to Good Will instead of actually donating. You have to declare receipts for donations over $500, Donald! /s >
  
  I declare receipts!  I declare them! >
  
  I don't want to look at his returns. I want the people who prosecute tax crimes to do that.
  I probably WILL look, just so when he checks internet traffic, he sees everybody everywhere is looking at the house of cards he lives in. >
  
  I look forward to the reports and interpretations that those in the news (print) media will have after they review the info.  I am sure it will be eye opening to those of us that follow the rules, and do pay our taxes. >
  
  You think trump is the only one playing less taxes? Lol even warren buffet said he pays next to nothing. Go after your law makers because they writing the laws for the rich and doing the same thing >
  
  While this isn't likely to change many voters minds, remember that's not the point. This is another victory in terms of transparency and a step toward accountability. >
  
  I, for one, would be incredibly surprised to see anything truly damning.
  He's had too much time to figure something out to mitigate the bullshit and lets face it - he's done way worse than scam on his taxes and ain't shit been done about that. >
  
  The crook has something like 500 LLCs that he uses to move money back and forth to cheat. There's no way you're going to see anything incriminating on these tax forms. It's all hidden in cooked books. >
  
  Trump is going to pull a publicly stunt as a distraction Friday, or say something outrageous. >
  
  More NFTs, but now with a naked Donald. >
  
  send it to the national archives too! >
  
  Someone had to keep at least a few of Trump’s promises for him. >
  
  Broke ass mfkr. >
  
  scribbled in orange crayon
  "i don't pay taxes because i'm not a loser" >
  
  A Friday news drop? And a nye weekend Friday? Why the dump? >
  
  Agreed. This isn't good news for anyone hoping for a
   "$2,000,000,000 ----- SAUDI ARABIA" line item. >
  
  Why not release them NOW before the orange bafoon finds another way to appeal this and kick the cab down the road. >
  
  Because it gets more excitement from people expecting some ground breaking show >
  
  Are they actually going back before he ran for office?  I've only seen recaps of stuff from 2015 to now, but at the time in 2016 he would have been obligated to release several prior years of tax returns.  While it's still unlikely he cleaned up his act, it's possible he was more careful with filling his taxes once actually a candidate. >
  
  
  The documents to be released on Friday are expected to include Trump's tax returns filed between 2015 and 2021, the years he ran for and served as president
  
  Since nobody ever reads the articles. >
  
  This is what I was referring to.  Everything I've seen only references as far back as 2015, and yet we should be seeing returns from several years prior to him running for president. >
  
  If nothing else it will be fun to point and laugh at them. >
  
  Happy new year! >
  
  Oh God! We all know what that means on Saturday - more rants! Witch-hunt! Hoax! Russia again! Fake news! "Never before has a perfect president like me been so persecuted"!
  Would someone just wrap an undersized, too tight covid mask around his mouth, thereby protecting our ears whilst preventing him self indicting every time he exercises his vocal chords. >
  
  Will this show officially how much he is worth for once and all? All his tax returns have done so far is show how little tax he paid, I haven't even seen how much his net income for each year was >
  
  Net income won’t show worth. >
  
  I know... that's why I said I hadn't even seen that as a starting point, which may indicate if he has enough serviceable income to maintain a billionaire lifestyle >
  
  Missed that last line.  
  Without going back a long way, there’s no good way to know.   And even more returns farther back only show so much.  
  Borrowed money is generally not income so wouldn’t be on an income tax form. >
  
  No worries, and cheers for the extra insights. 
  Even though I hate Trump, I get pretty frustrated with the common Reddit opinion that he really isn't a billionaire at all and all his wealth is completely fake. Yet those same Redditors will routinely point out the reporting that Jared and Ivanka made $600m during Trump's presidency. Yet they don't think Trump was able to grift many many times more than that from his stupid supporters? 
  Yes, I'm sure Trump got a lot of wealth from lying about his taxes, and yes, I'm sure he isn't worth the $4b he wants to tell people he is worth, but FFS, he isn't completely bankrupt and as soon as his taxes are released he'll be begging on the street..... this is some fantasy that so many Redditors here are so desperate to believe
  That's part of the reason I was hoping that the release of his taxes might put these stupid conspiracies to bed >
  
  We’ll learn some new facts/info, have some theories confirmed, and a new set of theories which are impossible to verify will emerge. 
  If he’s going to become relatively destitute, it won’t be simply because these forms are released.   That said, had he released forms 6 years ago, we’d have seen info on a potentially shadier time of his financial life.  But that’s now just raising new conspiracy points that can’t be verified at this point 🤔 >
  
  Yeah let's see, I just hope it the tax returns reveal crimes, there is still a pathway for the DOJ to freaking charge him for it, unlike the corrupt approach they took with Trump org. that proved he committed crimes, yet only Weaselberg got charged >
  
  Can't wait for the next sweet in coming meltdown on Friday >
  
  Its going to be bigley yuge.... >
  
  K. When's the perp walk, though... you know, because of the federal crimes... >
  
  Trump lies and cheats constantly. >
  
  His cult may still vote for him, but our laughter at them becomes more raucous with every new revelation of what a fool they follow. >
  
  He could of just released them himself like he promised to on the campaign trail in 2016. They're just keeping his promise for him at this point. Six years later. >
  
  "It's a problem with the tax code, not Trump. He's just smart."
  
  r/conservative >
  
  Is it not?
  People complained about Amazon Taxes despite them having a deductible on "research". >
  
  Cool, I bet he’ll be held accountable! Not like we’ve been getting a story about Trump being caught doing something every week. >
  
  Should’ve already been arrested >
  
  F5 Friday again? >
  
  I wonder how his new years message will read! >
  
  US House Committee: “everything you thought about Trump and his taxes is 100% true”
  America: “Nice, so…now what? Get him?”
  US House Committee: “Well, it’s more complicated than that.” >
  
  Happy new year, fucker. >
  
  The Orange One announced that he has immunity from all legal attacks.
  Friday: oh boy oh boy oh boy >
  
  And he has, de facto at least. Not one prosecutor really dares to bite. >
  
  kwanza brings the best gifts, everyone is saying it >
  
  Do they also publish Trump’s tax return from Russia? >
  
  Not to be defeatist, but I’m almost entirely sure this is going to make absolutely no difference in the political landscape. We’re all pretty sure of what we’re going to see there, have been for years, so this will just be confirmation. >
  
  in unrelated news, this friday Trump will also be launching his new line of MAGA Collectable Flippo's >
  
  What a great way to kick off the new year…. >
  
  Why isn’t is it required that Presidents release their tax returns? >
  
  How about we release a warrant for arrest?