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  Good! Show republicans what actual “law and order” looks like
context: This needs to be  the lead story on every news outlet in America for the next three days. Everyone needs to hear that you go to prison for 16 years for this shit. >
  
  Us govt wanted life in prison.  He got off easy. >
  
  Yeah the judge really threw the booklet at him. >
  
  Pamphlet >
  
  200 word "essay" >
  
  More of a comment, really >
  
  If it was up to me these guys would be deported to Siberia where they belong… BUT 16 years? Hopefully Atleast a decade? I’ll take it man. Fuck these guys >
  
  I'll take it too but imagine if they were a poor African American selling loose cigarettes. Straight to the death penalty!
  Factor in all kinds of good behavior and parole. This dude might do 5 years if he's lucky. >
  
  If it's Federal Prison the most you can shave off your sentence for good behavior is 54 days for every 365. So, my math says he would only get 2.36 years off his overall sentence of 16 years. >
  
  And this is why it works.  Federal sentences only let you shave of 15% of the time for good behavior.
  This isn't a state charge where your out in half the time.
  He also has to serve 5 years on probation after getting out.  The soonest he has his privacy back is about 19 years if he behaves himself. >
  
  Let’s get the guys shooting power stations next. >
  
  I work in the area in WA that's been hit recently. It's so annoying having to deal with all of our computer equipment, servers, security systems, etc.. during prolonged power outages.
  I can't imagine how shitty it is for the people whose homes were hit. This was all done on the same weekend that we had one of the worst ice storms in decades. 
  The cops up here have been on some kind of restricted strike akin to quiet quitting, they're understaffed, and certain legislation up here has made the cops pretty apathetic to actually catching criminals. Hopefully now that this has made national news they'll make it a priority to investigate what's going on. >
  
  What legislation has even affected them badly?  Police budgets keep on rising. The public said “hey stop shooting unarmed civilians” and the whole fucking force decides to ignore crimes like a bunch of useless babies. >
  
  Their budgets didn't rise as much and they didn't like being told what they can't do. They don't want to be accountable. That's basically it. >
  
  
  Their budgets didn't rise as much and they didn't like being told what they can't do. They don't want to be accountable. That's basically it.
  
  This\^\^\^\^
  Their feelings were hurt. >
  
  As a friend of mine put it after I pointed out here in Chicago we just keep throwing money at our cops: "Okay, fine. They didn't defund the police. They defanged the police."
  So all the money in the world ain't enough. We gotta smile and pat 'em on the back, too. No matter what. >
  
  MAGA conspiracists are quite upset about this and trying to deflect on the FBI’s Facebook page. Go check it out for the latest in right wing conspiracies and vitriol against the FBI. >
  
  The same FBI that has been headed by a Republican appointee ever since Nixon? >
  
  Are you telling me that law enforcement is predominantly Republican for some reason? I don't believe you. >
  
  Huh, almost like both attract people with low empathy and sociopathic behavior. >
  
  These useless pieces of shit were going to murder someone that was looking out for their best interests, I’d give them more than 16 years, but I’m no judge. >
  
  With any luck, they'll see the error of their ways by the time they're up for parole and become model citizens again.
  Of course, the same amount of luck would have me winning the Megaball. >
  
  
  With any luck, they'll see the error of their ways by the time they're up for parole and become model citizens again.
  
  Just like the Beerhall Putsch!
  Oh wait. >
  
  Hey, come on, that Hitler guy wrote a book while he was in prison.  Didn't that launch his career as a renowned author? >
  
  An author whose work was notably present in the bedside shelf of twice-impeached former US president Donald J. Trump, I believe. >
  
  Oh, come now.  You think he actually read a book?  At best he had it dictated to him little by little until it was complete, then forgot everything but the title. >
  
  He had to have an illustrated version made. >
  
  Why do they always look like thumbs? >
  
  Why is it that the white supremacists are always the least supreme whites? >
  
  When you think you're entitled to rule because of your skin color, but you're also inept and as dumb as a sack of hammers, violence is the go to solution to get what you want. That's why these blunt brains usually live by a "might makes right" mentality. >
  
  The reason these people are so obsessed with white superiority, is that being white is the only way they can justify their "right to rule". Without it, they have nothing. So they cling to it with everything they've got. >
  
  Boebert will complain about this. >
  
  She gets off on stuff like this. Doesn't need a man. >
  
  Which is good b/c she is likely too old for her husband. >
  
  I downvoted you solely to be able to upvote you twice. >
  
  Thank you!😆 >
  
  They did such a great job of showing that Whitmer has the grit needed to be president. >
  
  Absolutely and I too think she should run for Pres. Her calm and unwavering ability to continue on with her work in the face of this shows she remains cool under pressure and can continue carrying out her duties, even when her very life is under threat - and not by some vague, general threats as nearly all politicians receive - but by a real life plot that was in the process of being carried out. She has what it takes, is smart, articulate, and reminds me of a young Nancy Pilosi. Someone who can get things done. 
  In an effort to 'silence her forever' these thugs may have rocketed her to the highest echelons of government in the end. Ironic and fitting. >
  
  I agree with your statements which is why I am bothered when I see signs around saying "My Governor is an Idiot". >
  
  Paired with the “Too Confusing! Too Extreme!” Signs you can tell which households have a collective room temperature IQ. >
  
  I’m in Macomb county and it is a MAGA cesspool. >
  
  Same. My neighbors still have their Tudor Dixon signs up >
  
  Gentle reminder that liberals don't do this. >
  
  But what about the far-left antifa extremists who keep threatening everyone with free health care? >
  
  Such fascists, those antifascists. >
  
  Like long Covid we now have long MAGA >
  
  
  Every time [Trump] ramps up his violent rhetoric, every time he fires up Twitter to launch another broadside against me, my family and I see a surge of vicious attacks sent our way.
  This is no coincidence, and the president knows it. He is sowing division and putting leaders, especially women leaders, at risk.
  
  Terrorism is integral to MAGA Republicans’ political strategy >
  
  We normalized the most insane shit during the Trump era.
  Trump directly attacked the Governor relentlessly. He would always dog whistle who the next victim of his cult should be >
  
  Now do the same with the maga terrorists hitting the power substations >
  
  Sentence is a fucking joke.  Should be 50 years at least.
  IDGAF that he's 39 and will be 55yo convicted felon when he gets out.  It's not good enough.  Too many people behind bars for much longer sentences for much, much less serious crimes like pot and any drug crimes >
  
  I couldn't agree more! The judge was quoted as saying, "It’s too much. Something less than life gets the job done in this case,” later adding that 16 years behind bars “is still in my mind a very long time.”
  In what world? I would posit to say that this judge is completely disconnected from the pulse of the this country if they are under the impression that a 16 year sentence is all that is required to deter future domestic terrorists from plotting against elected officials. >
  
  /r/beholdthemasterrace >
  
  shocking amount of racism against half-orcs in here >
  
  When he gets out, she will no longer be Governor. So in a way, his plan worked. >
  
  Maybe the real plot to kidnap the Governor was the jail sentences we served along the way >
  
  Pretty lenient if you ask me. >
  
  Michigan checking in. 
  Good. >
  
  And all because of masks and social distancing that was meant to protect these idiots..
  Donald Trump is a hell of a drug. >
  
  That mugshot screams “I am a slack jawed yokel”. >
  
  Some folk’ll never plot treason, but then again, some folk’ll… >
  
  What's goin' on on this side? >
  
  Good.  This is a terrorist.  But he's not going to wind up in Gitmo.
  We still need to get the ringleaders in Right-wingnut media who encouraged them to do it.
  Don't think of them as white people who have the freedom of speech.  Try thinking of them as foreign Muslim brown people spreading Muslim Fundamentalist Wahhabist hate speech to radicalize Muslim terrorists to attack the American homeland.  
  We need to have equal opportunity in prosecutions of terrorists. >
  
  A special little FU to the defense attorney here for trying to make Fox's daily marijuana use some kind of excuse. Nah. I smoke pot on the regular. You know what I don't do? Try to kidnap elected officials. >
  
  This Trump-fucking terrorist better serve every single day of his sentence. >
  
  Make an actual attempt to kidnap anyone, let alone a governor (and have obvious plans to murder them)? 16 years.
  Abortion? Death sentence.
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  Fuck republicans. >
  
  Michigander here. There is a lot of people that despise our governer. She truly used her best judgement during Covid and still continues to fight for the people. A whole lot better than Tudor Dixon and that god awful Snyder. Republicans do not give a shit about a person unless they’re Republican AND a white male that likes to poison black cities. >
  
  FAFO in effect >
  
  With the bloated, pouty face, he looks like a grown up Kyle Rittenhouse. >
  
  Weren't republicans staying this was fake last year? >
  
  from TA,
  
  In August, Trump called the kidnapping plan a “fake deal.”
  
  Of course. Anything that they don't want to acknowledge is 'fake'. I've gotten very sick of that word. >
  
  A perfect example of how if you’re a “normal” citizen and you EVEN JUST PLOT a kidnapping of a government official, you’ll get thrown in prison for years, yet the people who PLANNED/PLOTTED an insurrection, voting fraud, sexual assault, etc all walk free because they have money and friends in high places. Rules for thee but not for me. >
  
  
  He shook his head and repeatedly smirked while Assistant U.S. Attorney Nils Kessler spoke. Kessler said Fox’s smirking was a sign that he showed no regret. 
  My client stands on the record, maintains his innocence and he looks forward to getting it all before the panel at the Court of Appeals,” Gibbons told reporters after Tuesday’s sentencing. 
  Fox was regularly exposed to “inflammatory rhetoric” by FBI informants, especially Army veteran Dan Chappel, who “manipulated not only Fox’s sense of ‘patriotism’ but also his need for friendship, acceptance and male approval,” Gibbons said.
  
  He has no freaking regret, he would get out and go right back to being fucking crazy. He even tries to blame his behavior bc of fucking words from the undercover agent. Even if its true, plenty of people have listened to inflammatory propaganda or have been manipulated and they dont plan on kidnapping/killing a fucking governor with plans to start a second civil war. Give me a fucking break. >
  
  And he would do it again because mah freedum! >
  
  Fella thought wearing a paper mask during a public health crisis was a curtailment of his freedom. Let’s see what he thinks of federal prison. >
  
  Pretty light sentence for attempting a treason >
  
  Not long enough >
  
  Not enough for this dangerous dullard. >
  
  Meanwhile, the guy who encouraged them to take back their state enjoys 24/7 top-notch protection in fancy dwellings around the country. >
  
  We need harsher sentences when the crime involves domestic Christian terrorists. >
  
  Keep throwing your lives away for nothing, trump is not coming to pardon you. >
  
  All he had to do was wear a mask in Walmart. >
  
  Since douche probably thought he would never end up there, enjoy what voting right wing turned the prison system into you worthless pathetic seditionist piece of garbage!
  While I don't condone what will happen to you in the joint I won't deny the realities in prison you're probably going to get turned out a few times....all you had do was NOT BE A SEDITIONIST!!!!
  PRISON FOR ALL SEDITIONISTS NOT JUST trump!!! >
  
  The face of a true master-criminal for the greater good. A patriot vigilante if ever I’ve seen one. Somebody get this man a pair of tights and some eye shadow. Prison is the perfect cover for the night-stalking hero America needs. They can keep in solitary, with a false floor leading to his very own ~~bat~~ fat cave. >
  
  One year for each IQ point. Wonder if he understood that when they explained it to him? >
  
  I am still amazed at how little time these people are getting for both this foolishness and storming the Nation's capital... You can get 20 plus years for a drug case or a regular crime with a gun.  You can be WHITE and plan on kidnapping and killing the WHITE FEMALE GOVERNOR and STILL NOT get 20 years.... WOW... >
  
  Holy shit.
  Some people just look too stereotypical.  They look exactly like what one would expect. 0.0 >
  
  The people who were on these crazy people's side. Then all the information came out on how derange they were and even the media started going: "Holy crap, we were just trying to make money on this. These people were really crazy." Some still said: "Well, Whitmer is just a very corrupted democrat who eats babies at underground pizza places." Because admitting Whitmer was trying to help people and even explained how it would work. But oh no, it was: "the GOP will save us!" These people would have done the same to a GOP member too. >
  
  16 years, wow!  Do Abbott next! >
  
  16 years seems pretty lenient considering his intent was murder. So he gets rewarded for getting caught. >
  
  A lot of people don't serve 16 years for actual murder, but I would call this an assassination attempt, not a murder attempt >
  
  Why do these people always look exactly as you expect them to? >
  
  Sort of a chicken and egg question if you ponder it. >
  
  He's going to actually understand what it means to be without freedom, something he dumbly believed was already happening because his governor asked him to get a shot and to not go out and cough on people. >
  
  All this because they didn't want to quarantine and wear masks. And these idiots actually believe they're saving America...
  Oh well, play stupid games win stupid prizes. Auf wiedersehen, domestic terrorist dumbass. >
  
  MTG will visit him regularly. >
  
  Given her track record, it'll turn conjugal. >
  
  Buh-bye >
  
  We'll see that smug look gone in prison >
  
  Looks like someone doesn’t have to worry about politics for a very long time. He sure won’t be voting. >
  
  Should've been life >
  
  Not the sharpest beer in the drawer >
  
  3.2 times the sentence of Whistleblower Reality Winner.  conspiracy to kidnap an elected official to overthrow the state government is only 3 times worse than informing the public about foreign election interference.
  Thats fucked up. >
  
  So if the co-leader gets 16 years then the actual leader will get a lot more, right? Right? >
  
  Good, glad this domestic terrorist is getting served justice.
  Now do the rest of them. Keep it up, make sure they know there are consequences so they don't try again (and succeed). >
  
  Get fucked traitor!!! >
  
  Man I feel so owned right now, any other liberals feel super owned. >
  
  I feel almost as owned as when all those conservatives died of Covid by not taking the Libs’ vaccine. >
  
  Not nearly long enough. >
  
  That's ridiculous. Plotting to overthrow your democratically elected officials is treason and should punished as such. >
  
  Was this really fucking worth it? Just throw your life away for some stupid shit. >
  
  Republicans are spouting crazy conspiracies about this. >
  
  They were going to livestream her execution. This is bullshit. >
  
  Fox News deleted their article of this. Lol >
  
  Fucking MAGA terrorists. >
  
  Only 16 years? What a joke, lock the dumbass up for life. >
  
  This fucking idiot. Just look at him. He got so caught up in his fake reality that it became a self-fulfilling prophecy. No mercy for this level of stupidity bc the rest of us end up suffering for it. >
  
  He should have attacked the US Capitol instead. Would have gotten a much lighter sentence. >
  
  Prosecute domestic terrorists. >
  
  He looks like he is typical MAGA.  You know...nuts? >
  
  His head shape is all eaty and no thinky. >
  
  Oh weird, another republican terrorist. They don't deserve to be part of this country. >
  
  Trump will pardon him.  Oh wait they could be cell mates. 😉 >
  
  Get fucked. >
  
  i wonder if the republicans will build a fake jail cell and hire an actor to play him so mtg can go in and kneel down and pray for him?  shame. he could have been the rising star of the party that is willing to risk peoples lives to further lies. >
  
  I wonder if he’s still wearing that smug expression. >
  
  He was found guilty by the jury of both misdemeanor and felony breaking and entering. >
  
  The rightist peanut gallery that semi-frequently wades into the comments to defend assorted extremists / vigilantes about six months ago pronounced  the charges against the putative kidnappers ludicrous and negated  by FBI informers’ overreaching “entrapment.”
  Obviously the jury and the judge disagreed with such hooey. >
  
  By now one could imagine that the threat of  an incipient insurrection has been reduced for two reasons; the first is that such sentences accomplish their intended effect, deterrence and the second is that so many of these hot heads have been thoroughly doxxed by the Gov. That's why the midterms were so calm on this level. >
  
  One down...  69.99 million to go...  Joking, I think. >
  
  I hope he suffers every fucking day. We all know he intended to murder her >
  
  Kyle Rittenhouse in 10 years. >
  
  If there was ever the face of a man who eats uncooked hot dogs over the kitchen sink while plotting a kidnapping.  It's this guy. >
  
  Imagine if a black group were guilty of kidnapping Desantis punishment would start at 25yrs
  Pathetic justice in America 
  America has let the kkk run rampant for a 100 yes
  They are domestic terrorists and the gop have the policies that they want >
  
  "They're not sending their best." - Donald Trump >
  
  Over on the conservative subs, they're not posting his mugshot and saying things like, "What. Now the feds are locking up their own agents?" >
  
  Not enough >
  
  Until the next gop president. Then he’ll be free again.