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  For the 599th time we have to ask: Is the press willfully this ignorant or are they just inept? This asshole supplanted Nixon before he was elected. Why does the media continuously pretend like this is new?
context: I hope to heck that no one pardons that lifetime criminal. >
  
  I strongly suspect the GOP and its non-Trump presidential candidate will offer a federal pardon in exchange for him actively pushing his base behind their candidate (presumably DeSantis).  It's not an offer he will be in a position to refuse, particularly if/when he's indicted.  Either way, at their first opportunity they will absolutely pardon him for federal crimes as they have gone all in on the "we're being persecuted" narrative. >
  
  Up vote for that comment. Though some of his crimes are not pardonable. State crimes. We need accountability to keep this from happening over and over. Plus Trump being behind bars is a very nice thing to visualize. >
  
  Georgia don’t let us down. >
  
  Georgia on my mind. >
  
  I wouldn't count on Kemp. New York is the one to watch. >
  
  The governor of Georgia has essentially no pardon power.  There is a separate board that evaluates claims, and there is a minimum time served requirement.  It is a huge outlier in that way. >
  
  Good to know! >
  
  Trump is not sad.  He makes others sad.  He's evil.  Plain evil.  Learn to recognize such.  Especially from those who make no effort at all to hide that evil. >
  
  The only "sad" aspects of the Trump story are the millions of people he killed via malfeasance when Covid hit, countless thousands who had their lives ruined by his policies, and the fact that he will never face any meaningful consequences for anything he has done. >
  
  Seriously though, when he got elected everyone was like”it’s just 4 years, how bad could he do!” And then covid hit and it was SO FUCKING BAD. A time when we DESPERATELY needed leadership and guidance and we had that asshat. It was honestly such a terrifying experience and I feel like it’s gunna come up in therapy… a lot. >
  
  Oh it was bad well before 2020. His "strong economy" was always a lie, Covid revealed it for what it was. And pretty much all he did was suck up to dictators and authoritarians in other countries. >
  
  I know he wasn’t killing it. But I was still like “ok we can struggle bus through this” until covid hit and it was directly effecting the everyday lives of every American that it got really honestly scary. >
  
  Another #1 for Trump. He keeps racking them up. >
  
  He is a true loser. He only "wins" when he plays dirty, cheats, lies, or throws others under the bus. If his life were a sport, he'd have been disqualified long ago. 
  Trump is the very definition of a loser. Anyone looking up to him is even worse, because they're not lying to anyone but themselves. >
  
  Trumps actions make Watergate look like nothing.
  actually looking back now the whole fuss over watergate seems comical now lol :-p
  omg a president lied about a break in! omg! 
  Trump be like, hold my beer. >
  
  while "saddest" may apply here, I can think of other descriptors:
  "criminal, pathological, narcissistic, appalling, disgusting, weird..." >
  
  I personally don't think saddest even applies to him.   It implies that we should empathetic to what he's done to himself.   Given all the intentional harm he's caused the nation and the world, I feel not a single ounce of empathy for him.  He will not be turned into the victim because of his own narcissistic actions. >
  
  Nixon was able to recover as a “statesman” in the end.  Trump will be bald, ranting in a cell, shitting his diapers. >
  
  Nixon left (relatively) quietly, resigning when he knew it was over, waved, got on a helicopter and went home.  
  I saw an interview with him a couple years before he died, and he was still "plugged in" to world events. Almost like he was waiting for a way back in.  It was sad, because he felt he could still be of service.  
  Trump is just pathetic. >
  
  For all the bravado of Nixon, he understood the gravity of the whole Watergate situation even if he thought he didn't do wrong. 
  Trump cannot accept that Jan 6 had the same gravitas. 
  Nixon also had a few good policies (ending Vietnam, OSHA act, forced desegregation)  whereas Trump was just a stream of steaming bullshit. >
  
  
  
  ending Vietnam
  
  
  You might want to read about the impact the Chennault affair had on the 1968 election before you give Nixon credit for ending the Vietnamese War >
  
  I'm not giving him "credit" for it, just corroborating my point that Nixon knew when to call it quits when public opinion was very against him. That's all. 
  Because it is a fact the Nixon admin ended the war as he was the commander in chief as that's how America works.
  And even if he presided over arguably the bloodiest part of the war the "end Vietnam" thing was still a good policy regardless of his previous ones. >
  
  Donald Trump has managed to lose at being a loser. He and his supporters have some strange obsession with turning every single day into a fixation on losing. >
  
  Well. Yeah. He's the saddest president now too >
  
  At least Nixon was well-read and could play piano. >
  
  He was also a hell of a bowler. >
  
  Remember when he said we would all be tired of winning? >
  
  No, in 2021, Trump was already the saddest figure in post-presidential politics. Nixon at least had enough dignity to resign from office after his disgracing the Office of the President. >
  
  To be fair to Nixon, he accomplished a lot before disgracing himself. 
  Trump, not so much. >
  
  Nixon was consulted by every subsequent president because he was a foreign policy genius and was still a patriot- Trump is a narcissist only looking out for #1, at best. >
  
  Nixon abused his position, but that is only about 1% as much as Trump has. Honestly, it’s not really close enough to compare them. 
  Trump has a mountain of scandals higher than Nixon’s by far. >
  
  Yeah, too bad Nixon couldn't get a cult going like the Donald. Nixon had flaws, but wasn't mental like Trump. No stable genius.
  But Nixon was basically a left wing antifa (he actually was in antifa organization that actually did fight fascists, called the "Navy"). His Bernie-like contributions included:
  
  
  Establishing the EPA
  
  
  Signed Title IX re women's collegiate sports
  
  
  Proposed a Family Assistance Program to replace AFDC that guaranteed an annual income, although the Senate defeated it
  
  
  Ordered one of the first federal affirmative action programs
  
  
  Established OSHA
  
  
  Signed some green legislation that would do the Squad proud: the Clean Air Act and the Endangered Species Act
  
  
  I said not because I like the guy; in fact I hated him. But it shows just how far off in right field the USA has swung since his time, and that goes a long way to explaining why a turd like Trump floated to the top of the bowl and won't flush down. >
  
  Nixon couldn't get a cult going like Donald because he didn't have a 24/7 propaganda TV network doing his bidding.  Makes you wonder how history would differ if a Fox like network had existed back then. >
  
  Right-wing media was conceived as a direct response to Watergate. If Nixon had Fox News he never would've had to resign. >
  
  The both of them are bad.  Trump may be worse, but Nixon showed the way. >
  
  Common denominator = Roger Stone
  (Among others, undoubtedly.) >
  
  Paul Manafort and Stone were buddies back in the Nixon days. >
  
  F-ing Manafort. I always forget about him. >
  
  Understandable.  He "lived an otherwise blameless life". >
  
  Will Trump have a portrait in the WH? Will he have a library? Nixon was a crook but has both of these things. Hard to envision the Trump versions. >
  
  Presidents pay for their own libraries or secure their own funding. >
  
  So… no. >
  
  ...except you underestimate his base who remains stupid enough to send him money for everything from campaign lies to NFTs. He'd never use his own money, no, but then he doesn't use his own money for anything. I'm not even sure he has 'his own money.' >
  
  Good point.   And if he did raise funds for a library, he probably wouldn’t build it. >
  
  Ha. Exactly. He'd use the money to pay for his defense fund, which he will very likely need soon. >
  
  Trump is the post presidency anti-Carter. >
  
  That’s totally true. I was 20 years old when Nixon resigned, and I think the thing that angered most of us was the way that he just walked off the stage to a life of luxury, without any repercussions. Then Ford pardoned him before we had a chance to dig into his crimes and misdemeanors. It was very unsatisfying. The threat to democracy was gone. But the man had not been punished. 
  Things are shaping up very differently with Trump. It looks like he’s going to go to prison. I can’t imagine, with all the convictions that are bound to occur, that he will manage to stay out of federal or state prison. I am feeling a lot more positive that justice will prevail this time than I did last time. >
  
  The threat to democracy was absolutely not gone. >
  
  Yep, still filling up rallies and ahead in any republican polls. Poor dude.
   He has lost a lot of his base though, and that’s the anti v axxer . 
  They blame him for supposedly poisoning the country and they are mad he won’t admit it. I don’t think they are going to vote for him.
   Guess that’s where the guy from Florida comes in. >
  
  That happened a few years ago, but yes. He has. >
  
  He’s the biggest loser our Country will ever know. The fact that he was President is just shameful.