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  Russian invasion fuels thousands of deaths
context: I mean, their leadership keeps saying the world outside of the Russian Federation is collapsing, they don't need anyone, and are ready to nuclear bomb the planet to ashes.
  So which one is it? >
  
  This is so confusing to me. With all major brands fleeing the country, how can they justify their own continued success? How does the general population perceive that? >
  
  They've gone through that "self sufficient" bullshit before, in USSR times, conveniently forgetting that NOT everything behind the Iron Curtain was Russia.
  A conglomerate of states trading between themselves and to a limited extent with Africa and the Middle East can't be compared to what is happening now, but hey, reliving the glorious past... >
  
  I’ve visited and I am aware of how much is made and used for internal consumption, but there was an intrinsic component of their culture that was a representation of freedom. How westernised their malls were and how many name brands they used on their daily lives. 
  It is baffling to me how this changed within months. >
  
  Eh, I'm living in one of those EU states from Eastern Europe, and after over 30 years after getting rid of communism there are still nostalgic old timers. They don't appreciate 'the new' and find comfort in the old hardships, the known recipes, where they are still knowledgeable and relevant. 
  The very young can be easily brainwashed, and the adults (30-50) are basically the only ones with a grasp of what's really going on and what's at stake.
  What baffles me is that for all this time the regime did not account for their reliance on western technology and components. Not as good as they planned their energy blackmail anyway. >
  
  no, russia's war fuels mental health crisis... don't try to deflect the cause to the isolation or other exterior factors... it's the war, nothing else. >
  
  Kind of like treating a fever when there is a knife in the patients infected chest. >
  
  more like blaming the doktors for a cancerpatient feeling pain... >
  
  More like running into a mall laughing maniacally, stabbing as many pregnant mothers and children you come across, and then when you get thrown into a padded cell with a straitjacket on, you start getting sad about being lonely. >
  
  That is an accurately cynical summation of exactly what is happening. You have a perfectly dark sense of humor. I like it. >
  
  It'd be easier to feel sorry for Russian if there was even a semblance of solidarity towards Ukraine and understanding the reasons for the sanctions. If it was my country doing the invading, I wouldn't love the sanctions, but I would understand them. But instead it's me-me-me, whinging about the travel ban, pleading regular Russians should be left alone like some endangered animals. >
  
  Yeah I understand that the lack of dissent. God knows I wouldn't be a hero there right now.
  But lo and behold, if you take a single thing away from them like traveling abroad, out come Russians with newfound interest in politics. Like they're the victim.
  So rebelling right now will cost them everything but sitting down and shutting up costs nothing. Ukranians would love that their biggest problem right now would be a cancelled vacation.
  I'll be sure to watch that doc, though. There's one called Trauma Zone that's lauded as well. >
  
  I think it's more that you're hearing the clueless, entitled, rich classes bitch about their lost "freedoms". From friends there to musicians and artists I follow, there is no real bitching about this stuff, only disdain for Putin's regime for doing this. Of the "bitching" I've seen its purely in the sense of "fuck this awful war, we just wanna live our lives and let them live theirs." >
  
  I follow some Russian musicians on insta and several Russian YouTubers and same. They are not supportive of anything their government has been doing. They are also all under 30yo and I wonder how much of a split there is between the younger Russian population and the older in regards to support of Putin >
  
  I know a dude who was offered a position in the Communist Party in the '80s as he had made a name for himself within the Soviet defense industry.
  He wasn't dumb though, and saw the writing on the wall for the future of the USSR.
  Dude cannot stand Putin, and while still residing in Moscow, continues to shit-talk Putin on Facebook semi-regularly. Doesn't spend much time near upper-story windows these days, it seems. >
  
  Imagine if you lived in North North Korea.
  Your leader is clearly unhinged. Willing to kill every last one of you rather than lose. Maybe even start a nuclear war rather than lose. 
  There's a good chance you'll get drafted and face abysmal chances of survival, as you do a modern day zerg rush with your friends into oncoming fire from advanced Western weapons that put most of your nation's arsenal to shame. Given to your enemy, who despises you, by a world who despises you and is sanctioning you into the ground. 
  All because your leader literally wants to commit genocide against people that may literally be your relatives. 
  You know this, but are heavily watched at all times and speaking out in any way at all can get you 15+ years of hard labor in Siberia. Assuming you just don't get conscripted or disappear as punishment. 
  No shit mental health is bad. >
  
  You assume the rest of the world hates them. Most people/governments were completely neutral to them. Russia was the definition of a "Meh" country for most of the western world. If they hadn't invaded Ukraine they would still be just that, a big old bowl of "Meh". >
  
  Oh well, maybe they should get over their perpetual fear, jealousy, and paranoia towards the West? Maybe after 500 years of hatred and envy, the ruzzians could try actually joining civilization? >
  
  You know, if not for the war, we probably wouldn't even think about Russia from day to day. >
  
  Not many people really care about that shitty gas station, aside from when they attempt to subvert Western democracies >
  
  nobody’s fault but the russians’… >
  
  I’d say Putin is up there. >
  
  is Russian 🙄 >
  
  He might be insane, but last I heard he’s still singular. >
  
  Ukraine war? Did Ukraine invade russia? >
  
  Ah well Ukrainian orphans are being ripped out of shelters and who knows what happens to em, tens of thousands of innocent people dead so I dont really care about their mental health problem because Ukraine is going through a physical health problem. The goal of this article is too clearly make russians look weak and pitiful and paint the west as the aggressor. Dont fall for it. Everyone knows the russian people are suffering because of Putin's war but they're far better off than the country they're attacking. >
  
  the moscow times is a western-based russian opposition newspaper  
  the goal of the article is to report a crisis in the country that the newspaper is supposed to be reporting on  
  you're just angry its not portraying all russians as the monsters you clearly think they are >
  
  Oh we know it´s not all russians, it´s just that we don´t care.
  And with every new warcrime it will only get worse.
  The time for sympathy is after the war, not now.
  And only russia is to blame for this. >
  
  If you are completely indifferent to innocent people suffering solely because you don't like the actions of their government over which they have no control you are morally no better than Putin. A sane person can have empathy for multiple groups of people at the same time. >
  
  Those who stand by and let the atrocities happen are not innocent. >
  
  That’s a shame.  All of those suffering should take this opportunity to ask: Why did Vladimir Putin do this to us all?  And how can we work together to make him pay for it? >
  
  Poor Russians…Not thinking about how they raped women, tortured civilians and killed and kidnapped children, having mental problems /s >
  
  sure, all of 150 millions, that's all we do. >
  
  I'm curious, what's your take on the war. >
  
  extremely badly, like any normal people. >
  
  Who is the aggressor?
  What should be done to stop the war?
  Is foreign interference unjustified? >
  
  -Russia
  - withdraw the russian forces
  - any help for ukraine of foreign countries needed, if you does it mean
  Yes, it is my opinion, as like also for all my friends. I don't know how many people is thinking the same, but we also russian and we exist! >
  
  I unfortunately couldn't get exactly what you meant in the last paragraph. Some of your points are being lost in translation. 
  Look, I hope Russia has hope for a great future one day, but as long as you're under the thumb of men like Putin, we can't prioritize your plights over the countries Russia is terrorizing. 
  If you and I share that sentiment, I appreciate your stoicism in the face of global isolation and you don't really deserve these down votes. >
  
  I don't claim for pity, it is no needed. I clearly understand all Russians terrible mistakes and them consequences, I also know who will answer for all it, and who started all of it, unfortunately it is different people. I want only understanding, that not all of Russians the same. >
  
  Well the fix is a revolution, Ukraine tossed their asshole when he tore up the deal with the EU.
  Russians should do the same to save their sons and spouses.
  The men should do it to save themselves.
  Id rather risk my life to get rid of a dictator at home than to be sendt into the meat grinder against an innocent country >
  
  
  Well the fix is a revolution
  
  Not gonna fly, Russia is a police state, not until the police is on their side anyway. >
  
  Plenty of police states have fallen in the past, espesially when things are going badly enough.
  But having support within the elites, police, armed forces are important.
  This is why revolutions can do great things if they are large enough. Everyone in the power structure will have loved ones om the other side.
  They are people to >
  
  Russian [opposition-oriented] newspaper reporting on things happening in Russia, and comments talking as if they shouldn't be allowed to, or something.
  And as someone in a top comment reply pointed out: the anti-war people are more likely to feel like shit over what's happening. >
  
  That's probably true, and honestly I don't care. Fuck 'em.
  Feel sympathy for the Ukrainians. >
  
  Me too. I feel no sympathy because I can detect no remorse from Russians for what their state is doing to Ukraine. >
  
  All the descent Russians got the fuck out months ago. >
  
  Maybe. There are various reasons - money, elderly parents, disabilities - that means some decent people can’t leave. Some people might actually want their home to change and stay and fight in some way. Not all Russians are horrible people, anymore than all Americans are (although as an American, I think the vast majority of the majority ethnicity here are completely spoiled and far too comfortable to get that most people in the world actually face hardship). >
  
  The only sane people in Russia are those burning down their factories or imprisoned for protesting the war. Rest are lunatics. >
  
  How to get out of russia. Get caught burning structures in russia, go to jail, get conscripted into army from jail , taken to Ukraine, call Ukraine and surrender.  You are out of russia. >
  
  
  call Ukraine and surrender
  
  There's been info on Russia shooting deserters and its artillery based war, quite unpractical to plan on surrendering. >
  
  Good. 
  Maybe they should overthrow their government as a therapy exercise. >
  
  Too drunk to care probably. >
  
  Oh us poor Russian citizens, being ostracized by society for the audacity of genocidal war mongering.   Why-ever can the world not just ignore us as we invade our neighbors?  Oh woe is me, poor Russians, no one likes us!   We have done absolutely nothing to be worthy of respect as fellow humans, let alone worthy of actual liking but yet, somehow, we just figured you would like us anyway?  Maybe?  If we whine some more about how unfair it all is? >
  
  I doubt the authoritarian government, propaganda and constant gaslighting is helping. >
  
  Oh boo hoo. That entire country has such a massive victim complex, they can all eat shit. >
  
  An entire Country full of Karens >
  
  I can’t find any sympathy in my heart for these self absorbed Russians struggling with their own consequences.  The whole article is kind of absurd.
  Why aren’t we talking about the mental health of the Ukrainians that are the actual victims? >
  
  I'm sorry if this sounds harsh but I have zero pity for them. The only solution is some sort of rebellion of the Russian people towards the Kremlin. I have to stop here because Reddit has banned me twice. So you can only imagine my displeasure towards the zombies at the Kremlin. Let's leave it at that. Hopefully drastic change will come in RU in 2023! >
  
  Hey Putler, maybe help your own people who are struggling instead of wasting money on bombs. Some rural Russians don’t have electricity or running water and your suicide rate is one of the highest in the world because of cuts to mental health services. >
  
  Feel bad for ordinary Russians. >
  
  Don't. Most of them support this. >
  
  I'm sure a lot do, and a lot of passive support as well.  I emphathize with them though, mental health problems sucks. >
  
  If you believe in human rights then you believe in the right for self determination. If Russians don’t like the situation it’s up to them to change it. The alternate is to have a foreign power come in and change it which is just as imperialistic as what Russia is doing in Ukraine. It’s their country and they need to be the ones to oust Putin. >
  
  Most russians are in a "deep mental health crisis" - for either a year, or a century, depending how you look at it. War in Ukraine exposed this so clearly that it actually an opportunity for them to wake up and do something about it. They don't seem to be taking on that opportunity, though. >
  
  Simply liking an anti-war post can get you thrown in prison. It's not easy to overthrow a police state in the modern world. 
  There are no doubt many Russians who have tried to form some kind of resistance; you haven't heard of them because they're all dead or in prison. >
  
  Given the current state of things, I would say they were all quite mad before all this started.  It is more like the crisis just reached a crescendo. >
  
  This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot)
  
  
  The 33-year-old head engineer at a Moscow construction company had overcome a major mental health crisis during the coronavirus pandemic without seeing a doctor or taking any pills - but this time, he found that he was unable to cope on his own.
  The war in Ukraine and a "Partial" mobilization drive announced in the fall by the Russian authorities have exacerbated an emerging mental health crisis, according to mental health experts, patients and experts who spoke to The Moscow Times.
  The sense of living in a state of limbo is one of the most frequent issues for which Russians seeking help from therapists, according to psychologists and mental health organizations cited by Russian media outlet RBC last month.
  
  
  Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russian^#1 time^#2 antidepressant^#3 Moscow^#4 take^#5 >
  
  Mental Health of Russia was always like that. No new developments here. >
  
  Severe Generational Alcohol abuse doesn't help Mental Health either.
  It certainly doesn't help Critical Thinking skills, as we can see from the exceptionally poor judgement of the Russian Goverment. >
  
  Alcohol is not only generational. When prices on everything went up the only thing he made sure is remained cheap is Vodka. >
  
  Until Putin’s war is stopped the only people I’m feeling bad for are Ukrainians. >
  
  Allegedly the majority of the Ruzzian leadership are already in crazy city, certainly their media pundits are...🤣 >
  
  How do we gaslight them further >
  
  I feel like I can safely assume Russia’s biggest export has always been depression. >
  
  I imagine being Russian and living in Russia is depressing enough on its own, even without a war meat-grinding its way through the nation’s menfolk. >
  
  FUELS? I wonder how they were before, then... or how low they'll sink. >
  
  Everyone in this comment section is an asshole. You can be sympathetic to people affected by the conflict no matter their nationality. >
  
  Aw... the poor Russians are depressed since there are consequences to waging barbaric wars of naked aggression. Clearly, they are the real victims here, not the murdered and raped Ukrainians. >
  
  Fun fact: multiple people can have real problems at the same time. >
  
  This is fine. >
  
  the amount of people posting here like it's the Russian people who ordered this invasion is assanine. Where is the empathy for another average human living in an oppressive regime.  Most human beings just want to live their lives, not watch their brothers, sons and friends be conscripted.  You can hate the Putin regime without wanting the Russian people to suffer. 
  Americans, were we not allowed to have mental health issues during the invasion of Iraq/Afghanistan? According to the logic of most of the comments here, we should have had another revolution before getting our mental health worked on.  
  But reddit only cares about mental health if it is a notable celerity or e-girl. >
  
  For major societal change and to get rid of your oppressively government, sure. 
  Not every clerk is a government shill, and holding a whole country responsible for war is assanine still and lacks empathy.  Choosing to punish the common Russian person accountable for a 1. government they did not vote for. 2. a war that many do not want is how you end up with bigotry, discrimination, and nationalism.  
  The US and any other global super power could be argued to be in the same boat.  Should the  government contractor who works at the commissary (grocery store) on a base be punished and unable to receive mental health care? Are they under the same obligation's morally as a general and military lawyers approving drone strikes at schools or using depleted uranium weapons?  Or is the local town clerk held to those same responsibilities because they're apart of the same government? 
  It's so easy to just say "all Russians bad." and honestly its nationalist and ignorant.  
  Also, replace the word "Russian" with other demographics and see how your comment sounds. >
  
  Who careesssss…every single Russian is culpable and we should sanction them until they all kill themselves /s >
  
  Brace yourself for all the compassionless "they deserve it because they live in Russia!!!!!", as if thry have a say in how the dictatorship they live under is run. Keyboard warrior libs don't skip a beat. >
  
  Fuck the Russians if they had any ounce or balls or morality they never would have allowed Putin or the oligarchs to run their country. Fuckin marx is rolling in his grave right now. Fuck Putin remove him from office then the rest of the world can consider moving on >
  
  That's guilt. For letting their problem become everyone else's problem. >
  
  Every human is the maker of their own fortune... >
  
  It helps being born in a rich country with a rich family though. >
  
  And in good health