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  Doubt it will matter at all. Covid burning through millions of people a day will probably evolve so much that it can teleport.
context: People from China will travel through Europe and come in to America from the east coast like they did when the pandemic started. This will do nothing if all travelers aboard aren’t made to test. >
  
  I agree.
  Although part of the rule is that you must get tested if you were in China 10 days prior to your departure from China to anywhere basically. 
  I’m not sure how they will enforce this but I guess it’s supposed to work.. >
  
  Passports show a history of where somebody has been. They're literally stamped. >
  
  I think they're scanned now instead of visually confirming the stamps. Which is even easier. >
  
  yeah there is definitely a digital aspect to it, just not sure exactly what >
  
  Every country has scanners, every country does biometrics. Even crossing the border to some 3rd world country like Cambodia, they scan your finger prints and take a picture, scan your passport. They know where you have been. 
  Where you run into an issue is dual citizenship or green cards. Someone from China could enter China using their Chinese passport, but enter the US on a green card. US has no real idea you were in China. >
  
  I've travelled a lot and MOST countries have biometric passports. In customs lines, I still see some people without biometric passports now and again. I imagine that a number of these people are from countries that do have biometric passports, but they have an older passport that hasn't expired yet.
  Also, I've noticed that customs deal with folks from countries that have diplomatically adversarial relationships differently. They rely more on paper visas and stamps than electronic records. So I'm not sure how much the US government trusts the more technologically advanced passports from China. But a mix of old and new technologies is definitely used by border officials.
  Anecdotally, as an American, my passport does not get stamped for countries like Australia and Canada. Most European countries will still physically stamp it, especially if the country is your first entry into the Schengen Region. And China? They put a paper visa on an entire page of my passport. >
  
  Here we go again.
  This time I think I'll learn French cooking. >
  
  5000 People a day will have to die before Anybody says the word Lock down in the States ever again. >
  
  That would really help thin out the GOP voters.
  Hmm.
  (eyes mask on desk)
  Hmm. >
  
  Except it’s certainly going to hurt high population urban areas first again >
  
  Nowhere nearly as bad the first time. High population areas have much better vaccination rates. That wasn't a factor last time.
  Issue is going to be the fact that some minority populations have very poor vaccination rates (comparably) in many of those same areas and they will be hit much harder. 
  When it hits Trump country, it'll be a repeat of before.
  What to worry about is if our country can survive politically and socially, which could be what China is hoping will happen. >
  
  I've been reading that the vaccinations are not as effective as they used to be, but still provide protection. >
  
  It's a very important distinction though. It's the distinction that made all the difference every step of the way. 
  China can royally fuck things up for another year and half with this stunt as a new vaccine is developed and mass released to combat a new variant. >
  
  “Here we go again” from everyone in the comments. 
  The virus never stopped, we did. >
  
  Virus will always be there. Permanent restrictions are unsustainable >
  
  3 years later...
  Is this permanent? >
  
  I doubt there's anything that would make Republicans running in 2024 happier then Democrats advocating for a return to COVID restrictions. >
  
  China's COVID-19 surge raises odds of new coronavirus variants
  Things could get very ugly. >
  
  You say this like covid hasn't been spreading rampantly through literally every country on the planet, mostly without any measures to stop the spread. Why does China get a different treatment and maybe countries should require tests from the US or Inida or Europe? >
  
  It's an odds game. Delta and omicron evolved when covid was jumping bodies freely at scale. The more bodies that it jumps to, the more chances for a mutation that persists. That mutation is totally random, and may just mutate to be more lethal.
  Now China is having an explosion, worse than any country has seen, on a massive population. That will give the virus ample opportunity to mutate.
  So, to your point, yes covid has become endemic and has been jumping bodies, but this may be throwing a gasoline canister on a low and steady fire.
  At least that's the knee-jerk reaction. This winter has seen high covid numbers in general, so maybe the fire was already raging. I haven't been following closely this year. >
  
  What’s that saying that ends with ”…doomed to repeat it?” >
  
  When’s that $1200 going to hit my account? >
  
  I’m still living off mine from last time! >
  
  Same. I quit my job and watch Netflix all day. Good thing my room to rent is only $10 per month. >
  
  Damn. Maybe Ohio ain't so bad if that's what we're missing out on. >
  
  Good luck finding a $10/month apartment EVEN in Ohio! >
  
  I thought I was living a life of luxury in Dayton in 2010 for $650 a month.
  Now I live in a shoebox in Nashville for $1,550 >
  
  "Does that thumbnail of someone getting tested read too much like 'screaming uselessly into the void'?"
  "I'm sure it'll be fine." >
  
  Doesn’t make sense in singling out China when covid is widespread in every single country >
  
  The extent of covid in china atm is just absurd. Two weeks ago, they had 37 MILLION cases in one day. Think about that. Thats more people than a lot of countries! 
  source >
  
  Seems purely retaliatory with no actual effectiveness.
  Enforcement is over a week away and presumably China has hit its peak already (flights being 40% positive) >
  
  Why not require a negative COVID test from everyone entering the country? It’s like they don’t want COVID to be under control. >
  
  I think this is because China has a relatively low vaccination rate because they relied on lock downs. Now that lock downs are being ramped down, they are having a huge surge. >
  
  Ah shit here we go again >
  
  "Who left the fridge open?" >
  
  Maybe, just maybe they shouldnt have stopped testing airplane passengers in the first place... 
  We have cheap, readily available tests that take 10 minutes to complete. There’s really no reason not to test ever passenger before boarding... >
  
  So far my 2023 bingo card is reading alooot of skull and crossbones, I think I might actually win at something next year, what does your score card look like? >
  
  It's "just a cold" unless it's a non-white person from another country carrying it.
  /s >
  
  Makes absolute sense considering what's currently going on there. Canada should do the same. I'll even go as far as say suspend visas / entry from that part of the world temporarily, until they can get it under control >
  
  seems xenophobic /s >
  
  Everyone saying this is racist, do not pay attention to the world >
  
  That's nice and all, but let's not act like we're not just ignoring our own COVID problems. >
  
  oh I'm sure conservatives will be very concerned about the "freedoms" of those travelers from China >
  
  Um testing should not ever stop. >
  
  Paywall - can anyone help me read the article? It sounds great in theory but why wait so long? That’s how this all started in 2020. Test now! >
  
  China has been in  quarantine until the protests. They have a very low  of vaccinated people, so now everyone's breathing on each other's necks, squeezing in tight places and now introducing another pandemic.  
  I believe a combination of everyone quarantined for too long and non vaccinated people are making this a very deadly spread. >
  
  Their vaccination rate is not too bad, except among the elderly. But their vaccine was shit even before all the variants.
  They've been trying to use lockdown to prevent spread and with the new variants that just won't work.
  So yeah, they're pretty fucked. >
  
  Vaccination rate is good, but the rate of people who are up to date on boosters is where they fall short even beyond just the elderly. It also doesn't help that the vaccine being used is overall less effective than the ones being used elsewhere like you said. Makes those booster shots many are lacking even more critical. >
  
  Sell then the Moderna vaccine so they can treat themselves, ans end this debacle. >
  
  Even if US send Moderna and Phizer vaccine, China will not use it, because they boast about "superior" Chinese vaccine and don't want to lose face.
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  Until they change their attitude, I suggest keeping restriction in place for PRC travelers. >
  
  Oh definitely. >
  
  At what point is it biological warfare for China to keep doing this? Same exact playbook as 2019-2020. >
  
  Same biological warfare when westerners were entering into China in 2022? >
  
  50 Cent army, out in full force! >
  
  Why are we letting anyone in from China? >
  
  Citizens and most permanent residents cannot be refused admission. >
  
  I can’t believe the Biden admin actually went through this. They’re testing them just because they’re Chinese??? That is so racist smh >
  
  China is having a huge COVID surge. This is the smart thing to do. Blocking everyone might be deemed racist (like Trump’s Muslim ban) but only blocking those who have COVID is following the data.
  Assuming you we responding in good faith. >
  
  But Trump suggested the same thing, and that was racist then. Biden did the same thing so it’s still racist now smh. Why not discriminate against everyone coming in? Why only the Chinese? >
  
  Trump banned “all” travel from China which is why some people deemed it as racist (all is in quotes because there were a lot of exceptions). This ban is just people who test positive and for all people traveling from China — Chinese or any other nationality. See my other link for why countries might be giving China extra scrutiny right now: relying on lockdowns AND not using the lockdown time to get people vaccinated was a losing strategy. >
  
  Seriously they know red states will just let them in and will never do another shut down again. So start dealt with out break countries this way to slow it down or corner it. But I see very very bad days ahead for China and Russia is starting to report out breaks too. >
  
  2019 into 2020 all over again. 
  At least China has a strict ban on flights...
  Oh >
  
  I don't think that's on China. I don't remember US banning any flights abroad during any of our surges? >
  
  I also don't remember the US being the origin of covid. 
  China has a special responsibility as a nation that fucked up and let covid grow out of control and escape its boundaries to not open up the export of viral vectors at the height of their crisis.
  CCP incompetence and mendacity has done enough already that they need to go above and beyond to keep shit as much as possible within their own borders. >
  
  That's rich