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  Since when do ....military police (???) enforce driving bans for snow. I mean, I've been around a LONG time. I've seen a lot of snowstorms and this is s first.  Outrageous to call in the military over civilian issues!
context: Somewhere there is a retail District Manager telling his store managers:
  “We gotta get these stores open!” >
  
  I worked at Toys R US years ago, and I got written up for not coming in during a blizzard where the state had enacted a travel ban. The store opened anyway, and my manager's response to me calling out was"well I made here so why can't you?" >
  
  All jokes aside... If nobody is on the road, who exactly does the store expect to sell to?
  I understand the drive to make sales, but if it costs you more to keep the store open (because nobody is coming in) than it does to open it, why not just close it and save the money? >
  
  That was my thought at the time but apparently they thought it was lucrative to be open. >
  
  Well, I venture to guess that they probably thought wrong. If that's what they thought, then I see their logic based on the premise. But I think their premise was wrong, and thus the logic that followed was equally incorrect. >
  
  I wasn't there that day, but I was there on 9/11. It was busy that day. Weird. >
  
  I think it was mostly "business as usual" on 9/11 outside od DC, NYC, and part of PA..... Sadly. I was in Maine at the time, and that's how I remember it. >
  
  I worked at a mall in Pensacola, Fl. on 9/11. They shut the whole mall down and everyone was sent home. >
  
  I worked for a small insurance company and as soon as the second plane struck we were told to go home to be with loved ones, and they would call when they planned on reopening.  They did close on the next day asks a late open on Thursday.  I truly hate corporate America but this was an example of running a business with humanity. >
  
  I worked for an advertising company in Germany at the time and even we closed down. For us it was in the early afternoon and from after lunch when first news broke everyone started gathering at the „business tv’s“ on the executive floor, like 200 people were just sitting/standing there in silence watching. When the first tower fell, everyone was shaken, after the 2nd tower fell, everyone just grabbed their backpacks and went home. >
  
  During Sandy my employer made us come in. All the roads flooded or washed out from the storm surge. We were waist deep in sea water by the time the national guard was able to get us out. >
  
  Well fuck that, I wouldn't come in when there's a damn hurricane rolling in >
  
  My work made us come in with the punishment thst we'd be locked at work for 45 days if we didn't. >
  
  I just read a story of a local lady dying in NY, after getting stuck in the snow while driving home from work.      I know some people have to go in to work regardless of weather, but, their employers should be assisting with transportation in these cases. >
  
  Erie County official statement back in November:
  
  "Travel ban means no travel," Poloncarz said at the 9 p.m. snowstorm briefing.
  Poloncarz said employers cannot force their employees to violate a travel ban by driving to work unless the employees are essential emergency personnel.
  
  Employers had no excuses this time. >
  
  This is exactly what Seattle needed. I mean, all those crashes were a great boon to the auto body industry but so many people were hurt. >
  
  seriously, just wild that people were expected to come to work when the hilly roads were literally solid sheets of ice. >
  
  Solid. Sheet. Of. Ice. On hilly roads.
  Worst bosses ever. >
  
  Best sliding saucer race ever. >
  
  Many of my co-workers live in Buffalo. We all work remote, so luckily they don't have to drive anywhere, but holy hell are they struggling! It's scary over there right now! >
  
  My brother-in-law lives in Buffalo. He and his family were going to come in for a visit yesterday. Needless to say, they canceled. There's no way they'd make it out of Buffalo, much less all the way to where I live. >
  
  How are people getting groceries? >
  
  Do people really get groceries every day? If we had a travel ban or the snow was that bad where I live, I think we’d be ok for a week with what we’ve got stored. Probably would have to get creative with meals towards the end though >
  
  A lot of the problem was when people lost power, their food went bad. I'm in Buffalo and lost power for 36 hours. I made it out to get groceries today and it's like a warzone. >
  
  Why not put groceries outside to keep cold? >
  
  I can hear the Applebee's management loosing their shit as they scream about how they need everyone in for giftcard week! Lol >
  
  Funny story, there was a post on r/Buffalo asking at Applebee’s is still open(granted it was very obviously a joke but still) >
  
  I found it and it’s a gold mine. >
  
  I can just see a sovcit now... "I'm not driving, I'm traveling!"
  Try that line on an MP.  See what happens. >
  
  A lot of the local FB pages have shit exactly like that. What's funny is, a good plurality, if not outright majority, of stuck cars I have seen were pickups >
  
  As a pickup truck owner, pickups totally fucking suck in the winter unless you throw a bunch of weight into the bed to get traction on the rear wheels.  And most of those chucklefuck pickup owners are too afraid of scratching the paint on their precious to throw some cinder blocks in. >
  
  That’s what erks me about truck owners. They are afraid of the west and tear trucks get. Who cares if there’s some scratches around the bed, it’s a truck! >
  
  Boss: but you're still coming to work right? >
  
  The Sioux tribe in South Dakota sounds even worse off. Having food delivered to the reservation, but still not able to get it to homes until the snowmobiles arrived. Good grief. >
  
  Blizzard of '78, rural Ohio. 70 mph winds and drifts up to 15 ft. Couldn't even find the roads, much less drive on them. >
  
  ‘78 in Boston. Drifts covered one story house in my cul de sac. No one could move for five days and then only by foot. My 67 chevy c10 on extra large tires was covered over the roof. Anyone with 4wheel drive was asked to drive emergency personnel to from hospitals. Natl Guard high water vehicles were everywhere. >
  
  Amazing time to be a kid in Boston. Went sledding off our garage roof! >
  
  well, I lived in a victorian house with a bunch of house mates. When the snow and wind stopped, five of us shoveled side by side to reach the street. Luckily that was two carpenters, a rugby player, a factory mechanic (me) and an attorney. We walked to the Galway House (Jamaica Plain), stuffed our faces, decided to go to Peters Hill with a tobaggan, smoked a few joints on the way, wiped out at the bottom of the hill, dislocated my knee but didn't know it cause I was too stoned, walked back to the house and slept it off. Next morning we all were quite messed up. >
  
  Amazon managers: If you choose to stay at home then you choose to be unemployed and because you basically sacked yourself to can't claim unemployment benefit. But if you make it there alive we have free coffee! >
  
  You could just say "managers" and it would be the same >
  
  for real, for a while the new line has been
  "we didn't fire you, you quit"
  bosses have always loved it that "you can't fire me, I quit" became pop culture. does their denial for them. >
  
  Agreed, it was used excessively by my company lately. 
  The phrasing was, “as a condition of your employment you must . Failure to do _ means you have resigned your position immediately.”
  Haven’t seen one recently so maybe enough people called their bluff. So manipulative I want to vomit and see if that counts as resigning too. >
  
  I am impressed by the article having metric and Celsius in  parentheses. Made understanding the amount of snow easier.
  Crazy weather. >
  
  My dumb ass drove out of West Seneca (a suburb of Buffalo) during a brief break in the snowfall to get myself and my girlfriend to PA on christmas day. We didn't get above 15mph at any point before we got out of WNY, fishtailed a half a dozen times, and got caught in multiple whiteouts with ~20 feet of visibility. 
  I will be staying the fuck inside during the next apocalyptic snow hurricane.
  BTW we didn't violate any driving ban, we only left once our area had been downgraded to a "winter weather advisory." Last I saw on r/buffalo the driving ban was only still in effect in Buffalo proper >
  
  What kind of tires did you have? Fishtailing half a dozen times sounds suspiciously like inappropriate tires. Fresh powder is easy to drive on with proper winter tires. That's why Nordic countries legally require snow rated tires in  the winter. >
  
  Not sure, we were in a rented Honda CRV. It handled pretty well in the snow, but we ran in to trouble during the parts where we were driving on a thick sheet of ice going up and down hills/over bridges. Salt doesn't really melt ice when it's 11 degrees out >
  
  
  were in a rented
  
  Yea.... That's all the info we needed. You were on the cheapest possible tires they could find >
  
  Wdym find?
  He was on the summer tires the car came out of the factory with, 40-50k miles ago.
  At least that was my experience renting a vehicle in the US on my trip. The tires HAD to be factory ones, because they were 1) nearly bald and 2) a very fancy brand on an otherwise completely run-down 2019 MY vehicle. Luckily it was 20C outside when I visited, not even a chance of snow. >
  
  Why don’t they just take the snow and push it somewhere else? >
  
  They banned that too for the last 3 days. Only plows allowed to be out are the ones doing the main roads, which is probably illegal because ambulances need to be able to enter apartment complexes and neighborhoods. >
  
  We shouldnt need to clear ways for ambulances, just freeze the sick and wait for snow to clear to treat them. >
  
  That's quite literally what is happening. They are leaving the dead bodies in place because the morgue is full. The death total is going to rise significantly >
  
  My dumbass relative decided getting to the handegg game was more important than safety.  The interstate closed but he found a unbarricaded road and decided to back road it.  Got stuck.  Had to pay almost $1000 for rescue and related fines.  If that wasn’t dumb enough, he had his kids with him!  He put them at risk and the people who rescued them!  I cannot handle this level of selfishness! >
  
  Was it this storm because the Bill were on the road in Chicago this week? >
  
  Hmm... High school football is over, they don't put bowl games in upstate New York, and the Bills weren't playing at home. 
  I think they might be making shit up! >
  
  The bills dolphins game was at home on the day of a lot of snow. Probably what they’re talking about >
  
  Greg Abbott’s bus tours will go wherever they want. >
  
  In CT, I was out there during two occasions when the highways were closed. The first was in a performance edition Saab 99; we had to remove the front air dam for me to get out into the street. It was a short drive, and I lucked out and didn't get busted. 
  The second time I was in my Jeep Cherokee, with real 4wd and the best off road hybrid tires. Was on the Highway for 40 miles, and I even flagged down a state cop that time, cause I spotted a guy driving with his car on fire underneath. The cop was fine with me being out in the Jeep; not so happy with the poor schmuck who was driving a low slung Caddy that was on fire.
  Edit: added a forgotten word so it made more sense. >
  
  Uh… why was it on fire?… >
  
  I'm pretty sure it was the catalytic converter, something was glowing when I started honking to let the guy know the underneath of his car was on fire. Also could have been a plastic bag caught in the converter; ever since I cleared a half-melted bag out from under my own car, now when I run over a plastic bag, I watch the rear view, and if I don't see it exit, I pull over and get down there.
  Undercoating and rubber bits can burn too; if a bag gets snagged in the converter and the flames get fanned by driving, the underside of your car will burn nicely.'
  Edit: now that I think about it, I bet under-car fires are on the rise, now that plastic shopping bags contain about 20 or more times as much plastic. Unintended consequences... >
  
  Amazing TIL.  Goddammit, now I'm gonna be paranoid about it :) >
  
  I can already see idiots going, "Fuck you! I'll drive wherever I want! And I'm going to take my kids with me to show a real American!"
  gets stuck in snow and needs help >
  
  The ‘freedom’ crew. 
  The ‘Lions not Sheep’ crowd. 
  Basically, the small dick crowd. >
  
  dude youve posted that same shit multiple times.  it's long since ceased having an effect >
  
  I can only imagine how the Qrazies must be shouting about "Marshal Law" right now... >
  
  One of them on my feed was blaming the response on Andrew Cuomo who hasn't been our governor in over a year. >
  
  Good riddance to him tho. He was such a fool >
  
  Hochul doesn’t give creepy hugs, so I guess she’s better? So far she seems just as corrupt and less effective at getting things done so while I hate Cuomo I don’t really see any improvement. Spritzer was the best, he shouldn’t have resigned… >
  
  
  So far she seems just as corrupt 
  
  Got any sources that aren't from the garbage rag that is the new york post on that? And she's not a  election denier and anti-abortion shithead that Zeldin is. >
  
  I think her husband got a lucrative contract for the bills stadium, I could be wrong. >
  
  Her husband is the Senior Vice President of the company that runs the concession program at the stadium. It is likely that his company will benefit from the 600 million in state taxpayer money that is being devoted to said stadium. >
  
  read the article and it wasn't made clear, but I assume they mean the NY National Guard? if so, the headline feels a little click-baity. >
  
  Yes, national guard. It's illegal for federal MP's to perform civilian law enforcement operations. >
  
  technically Navy and Marine Corps could by law; they just aren't known for being on land as much as the Army, or for having anybody called MP's >
  
  Yes, Posse Comitatus Act only applies to the Army (and by extension the Air Force when that became a separate service in 1947), but DoD regulations currently apply the same rule to Navy and Marines >
  
  That got changed in the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2022 that was passed last year. A rider in that legislation applied it to the Navy, Marine Corps, and Space Force. >
  
  Good.
  As prior service, I can tell you service people usually can't drive in snow... >
  
  I always loved the first snow at fort drum. Cars in the ditch everywhere >
  
  So, they’re building tramways, right? 
  Right?? >
  
  Everyone: I can't come in to work because of the snow.
  Manager: Come in anyway! >
  
  All the people on the roads right now are all the people that refused to put on masks. >
  
  Still trying to commit suicide, and take as many with them as they can. >
  
  Why are people even driving in obvious dangerous conditions, I think snowmobiles is only suitable mode of transportation in that level of snow? >
  
  Because many American drivers are entitled morons >
  
  Didn't see them enforcing shit on 2 major streets during my walk but ok. >
  
  Can you drive to and from the store if you LITERALLY have no food? >
  
  So, do they just file for unemployment, or how do they get paid? >
  
  Probably an unpopular opinion, but instead of spending all the money on military maybe take a couple of those outdated tanks and slap some plows on the front- these storms occur often enough that it’d seem prescient to have that sorta thing as backup so fewer people die.  But nah, all the tax money gonna keep going to fund the largest war machine in the world. >
  
  Tanks destroy roads >
  
  How are they enforcing it? While in their own vehicles? >
  
  Well it's ok for them. And they even have a back up if anything happens, just blame it on the person trying to go take care of their family