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  This is very popular opinion imo tho.
context: Don't forget GTA v is like 20 years old (-ex), and they made rdr2 kinda like rdr1, not saying they're next game will be updated with things like peeking, leaning or anything else we expect from top of line fps, but it's something to think about >
  
  Red Dead 1 is very very different from RDR2's gameplay. It's more clunky and more """"GTA Like""""" >
  
  Someone’s obviously never played Rockstar Games Presents Table Tennis >
  
  Have you played Max Payne 3? God-tier shooter. Idk why they can't translate MP3 controls to GTA/RDR series since the latter relies too much on auto-aim. >
  
  I loved max Payne 1 and 2. >
  
  Agree with gta titles but rdr1 is one of my all time favourites. Haven't played rdr2 yet but will get to it. >
  
  oh my god u have to get to RDR2.  The story is even more incredible than RDR1. If you liked RDR1 you’re in for a real treat. If you’ve gotten away without spoilers I highly recommend keeping it that way. I avoided all spoilers until I played and it completely changed the experience for me. >
  
  Thanks I definitely plan to but haven't had the ps4 out for awhile. I have remained pretty much spoiler free apart from the odd tidbit but I've got a crappy memory so I'll have forgotten by the time I play it lol.
  Cool now Im a little excited :) >
  
  Enjoy! I’m so jealous lol I wish I could experience it for my first time again. My one tip is if you make Arthur a good cowboy by the end, it really makes the storyline richer. Well it did for me at least :) >
  
  OK. Thanks for the tip. I do generally follow the good path because who wants to be the bad cowboy? >
  
  GTA San Andreas completely dominated its genre when it was released, and Red Dead Redeption has been held as a cowboy game so good nobody else has really bothered. 
  This is angry hater talk >
  
  not really counterarguments >
  
  Yeah tbf you did just dance around all the points op made >
  
  Plus OP actually listed good things about Rockstar's games, not sure how he's suddenly an "angry hater". Such a dumb argument to make. >
  
  People will disagree but I love the gameplay in Red Dead 2. GTA 5 still has the best driving physics in an open world action game that I know of, especially for its time. 
  Rockstar games have always been more about the open world and characters than the minute to minute gameplay but I don't think the gameplay has ever been bad for the time that the games came out. >
  
  the hunting mechanics are so smooth in rdr2. The skinning animation is a bit lengthy but it’s literally a huge process IRL so I can appreciate that it’s detailed and not gimmicky. I can see OP’s point about redundancy but games like GTA and RDR1/2 were more about the stories. 
  OP not sure what kind of games you like, but I view Rockstar games as more of my single player story type games and then if I want a good gameplay I just play FPS games. Really enjoying the new MW2 gameplay mechanics for MP/SpecOps modes. WZ2 gameplay is ass. Ppl shit on Fortnite but the gameplay mechanics of that are so smooth it makes it very enjoyable for me. So I can see what you’re saying although I don’t agree since RS created two of my favorite games lol >
  
  I see rockstar the same as early midway. They got famous for their games shock value. You can’t honestly say mortal combat 1 and grand theft auto 1 and 2 were good games. They were just famous due to the “forbidden” content, just like postal. >
  
  I liked Bully. Bully was compelling to me. Shout out to their Thrasher Skate game, one of the 1st to do it! >
  
  The series peaked with San Andreas. It’s been a sharp fall since then. It’s just stuffed with so much bloat in the story I lose interest. I literally said with 4, if the mob shows up, I’m out. Like two missions later the Mob showed up. Yeah, the out of car mechanics aren’t great. >
  
  i sometimes feel like the only person alive who dislikes all of their games
  from the bloatware needed to run one, to the mundane nature of most of the activities (oh goodie, i get to take a girl bowling - will the wonders ever cease?) to the stiff console-centric controls, i cant find any joy in them at all
  someone gifted me gta5 when it came out and so day 1 i get home from work, fired it up - only to realize i was about to play a game about driving around LA after spending my day actually driving around LA (which is no fun at all)
  i could see if i was maybe a teenager who'd never driven a car or had an apartment or something, but to me those games are just dull clunky douche-sims >
  
  It’s called grand theft AUTO, it’s a game about driving and you’re surprised it has you driving around La? LMAO >
  
  Driving controls are shit for a game called grand theft AUTO >
  
  Not even arguing on that note, don’t try to shoot at the same time either.  It got much better in 5 >
  
  Not really, but suit yourself >
  
  I like Bully and Max Payne >
  
  Except for max Payne 3.
  The gameplay was good there, and i still don't understand why they didn't use that gunplay for gta 5