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  At least you are honest  so props to you for that.
context: Holy shit >
  
  Pakistan the government is not Pakistan the people necessarily. I doubt these people deserved it but maybe you know better >
  
  Pakistani people largely support Taliban in Afghan and were celerating their return >
  
  These particular people? My point is it's wild to say the dead deserved it without knowing intimate details >
  
  It's a bit of a jump to go from "actions have consequences" to "these specific people deserved to die." 
  Terrorism is a stupid game and Pakistan plays it perhaps more than any other state in the world. So it goes. >
  
  "Actions have consequences" is only meaningful to say if you are suggesting they did something to deserve it. Otherwise it's just saying "stuff happens". >
  
  Pakistan has done more than anyone else to use fundamentalist terror groups as a tool to destabilize their political rivals in the region. This action, the regional cultivation of fundamentalist terror groups, has consequences, the proliferation and sustainment of regional terror. 
  "Deserve" introduces a morality judgement that doesn't otherwise exist in this observation. Nobody deserves to be murdered in cold blood, but it is nonetheless true that Pakistan bears some degree of responsibility for the violent sectarianism that currently plagues its own neighbourhood. It's not "deserve" it's "responsibility." >
  
  The article mentioned that the Taliban took credit for it. So basically we have a religion killing people in the same religion for  being the wrong flavor of the religion.
  Fundamentalism is a disease. >
  
  Not only that, but Talibans just attacked a nation that previously financed and sheltered them. >
  
  Depending on which Taliban the Afghan or Pakistan Taliban both groups are two different entities. >
  
  The Pakistan Taliban only exist because Pakistan Sheltered, Trained, and Armed the Afghan Taliban for two decades. This is a problem of their own making. >
  
  Well the US did it first lol >
  
  But Pakistan ran with it and now the monster they created is haunting them as well. 
  The U.S was giving funds but it was Pakistan that was allocating those funds into groups that would later become the taliban. >
  
  Well, the Afghan Taliban, while being Muslim fundamentalist, are also the defacto Pashto nationalist group. Millions of Pashto speakers also live in Pakistan so many are also attracted to the Taliban >
  
  Pakistan had a habit of backing more extreme Mujahideen groups during the soviet war. They tended to favor guys like Gulbaddin hakmatyer  known as the butcher of Kabul. Moderates like massoud were often not given as much support by the Pakistani military.
  
  Millions of Pashto speakers also live in Pakistan so many are also attracted to the Taliban
  
  Seems like the Pakistan military failed to realize how this was going to come back and bite them. >
  
  
  Moderates like massoud were often not given as much support by the Pakistani military.
  
  Pakistanis were working with the Saudis who actively tried to kill massoud multiple times iirc. >
  
  The sad thing is they eventually succeeded in assassinating him. >
  
  Everyone seems to be missing the point here. This was an attack against Pakistan's security forces. 
  The only reason they chose the mosque is because a lot of police officers could be killed this way.
  
  A suicide bomber struck a crowded mosque inside a police compound in Pakistan on Monday, causing the roof to collapse and killing at least 59 people and wounding more than 150 others, officials said.
  Most of the casualties were police officers. It was not clear how the bomber was able to slip into the walled compound, which houses the police headquarters in the northwestern city of Peshawar and is itself located in a high-security zone with other government buildings. >
  
  Al-Balawi killed 9, including 7 CIA officers and contractors, in the 2009 Camp Chapman attack. He got through security unsearched because he gained the trust of his handlers.
  So who knows how this attack happened. But anyone determined to carry out a bombing like this basically only needs motivation, patience, and luck. And just because dozens of people died doesn't mean that was the intention - remember that the July 20th plot to assassinate Hitler with a bomb failed to kill him (the target) but did manage to kill 3 Nazi officers and a stenographer.
  Also - while not a bombing - Nidal Hasan murdered 13 of his co-workers in Fort Hood. Hasan was not your typical 'terrorist,' as he was an army Major and psychiatrist. I use the word 'terrorist' in quotes because I'm convinced this was an act of workplace violence that Hasan he tried to justify as being religiously motivated. Which is to say - don't assume this was an act of religious terrorism - sometimes people murder their coworkers as a way to deal with their personal issues. >
  
  Hasan didn't kill "his coworkers", he shot up a deployment staging center of sorts. A place where people knock out needed paperwork and examinations before deploying on a combat tour. He was himself preparing to deploy. These are not people he had any experience with prior to his need to be there for deployment reasons. >
  
  Horrific. >
  
  “Punitive action”… “suicide bomber”…
  I think it’s too late for that. >
  
  Any god worth having would condemn this. >
  
  it is condemned in Islam. the unjustfully taking a single life is equal to the killing of all humanity. that bomber nor the people who raised, and enabled him shall experience anything but the harshest punishments any existing soul will ever have to experience.
  Note: its fine if you or anyone who reads this doesnt believe it, just let me take comfort in this. >
  
  As per fundamentalists in any religion, basically:
  "Yea yea I know God specifically forbids killing... but in this one part of the book he says that we should defend our faith from attack, so I'm just going to kill under the name of defending the religion. Totally legal, very cool with God, I promise!" >
  
  Perhaps an all knowing god should have the wherewithal to know people are going to interpret things that way. At the end of the day all you’re doing is interpreting it in a nicer way, the extremists aren’t wrong for interpreting it their way, how could we possibly know? We can’t ask for a clarification can we? >
  
  
  Perhaps an all knowing god should have the wherewithal to know people are going to interpret things that way.
  
  Considering how the books have been interpreted - not to mention the near limitless contradictions with them - the only logical conclusion in a universe with an all knowing god is that god wanted his religions to cause endless conflict for humanity... either because he's sadistic af, or he's the show-runner for the universe's most depressing reality TV show. >
  
  Nah, God just wants to keep us busy fighting each other so we don't end up usurping him. >
  
  Well jokes on him, he’s not even going to make it long enough to beat the Egyptians. 3,000 years and out! >
  
  Just awful. Lives senselessly lost. For what? >
  
  For Allah >
  
  It was an attack predominantly against the police force gathered in the mosque. The mosque was sunni as well as is the most of Pakistans population. This attack is not based on a religious dispute. >
  
  If it's not a religious based attack then why use a suicide bomber? Also, I don't mean this question in a condescending or asshole way >
  
  If you are a terrorist vs a country with a military force, this is a way to deal a lot of damage without losing much (or even anything, i doubt they care about 1 person dying if he can take this many with him). >
  
  Totally understand the logistical reasoning. I guess the part that gets me is the justification because of appearance. From an outside perspective it can be seen as either religious enough to justify suicide or take an anti religious stance by targeting a mosque. >
  
  I mean it is religious in the sense that the person that was sent was probably promised after life and told that he’s going to be a martyr and all the rewards in heaven and stuff. 
  But its not one religious sect attacking another. Its simply insurgents attacking a bunch of people related to the police to assert some power. At the end of the day they don't care about religion they just want power. If it really was about religion they would probably not take innocent lives considering that would contradict their own religion. >
  
  Fair point, thank you! >
  
  the numbers only going to go up, too >
  
  they should stop doing that >
  
  Innocent people died. Innocent people are not responsible for the actions their shitty governments make. Way to completely gloss over the pure human suffering that occurred today. I hope you're normally a better person than this. >
  
  Pakistan is f*cked by Nature, Religion & extremist nut jobs, Terrorists, Army, Politicians for the last few years as far as i know, give them some break. >
  
  
  in nearly every measure of progress.
  
  And that's directly reflected in their respective fertility rates (2020):
  
  Pakistan: 3.56 births/woman
  India: 2.05 births/woman
  Bangladesh: 2.00 births/woman
  
  There's going to be quite a population bulge in Pakistan. >
  
  People still killing people over a book? >
  
  Yep, all over the world. The book varies, of course: the Bible, the Quran, the Torah, the Baghavad Gita, the Communist Manifesto, the Constitution of the United States, the Wealth of Nations...
  That's not even the stupidest set of things people have killed each other over. Forty years ago a number my countrymen (and it was mostly men) killed 39 Europeans over a fucking football (soccer) match (Heysel Stadium Disaster; look it up). 
  Ideas are powerful, a sense of belonging yet more so. >
  
  Please give some instances of people killing over teachings in baghavat Gita.
  Edit: None. Thats what i thought.
  I am all up for appeasing Islam by saying all religions are the same but IMHO and with current statistics, Islam has been quite destructive when it comes to killing, raping, enslaving people coz of a holy book. That too in this century. >
  
  Isolate incident by nut jobs. Also, when did ram become part of gita?. A raised Hindu should know coz I was born one too.
  Can you really deny the overwhelming percentage of these type of occurrences when it comes to certain other religion?. There is something every year. >
  
  The 44 lynchings are isolated but this act of terrorism by a Muslim is a pattern?
  
  Can you really deny the overwhelming percentage of these type of occurrences when it comes to certain other religion?.
  
  Yes. Hindus have committed as many atrocities. They go underreported in this new era but have you really forgotten all the rapes and murders by Hindus in the last few years? Do you not remember the RSS scion who raped a young girl and received full immunity nevertheless? Are you telling me he isn't a Hindu?
  Selective memory is extremely harmful. Don't forget the atrocities our communities are committing - they are not victimless crimes
  
  ram was part of gita
  
  Wtf are you saying? Where did I say that? Are you just constructing a straw man because you are out of arguments >
  
  Are you hearing yourself?
  As many atrocities? As people misinterpreting Islam.  You should probably read more coz I am pretty sure a simple googling would give you quite more than 44. 
  Just 9 11 had more deaths than 44. 
  Exactly. You said it. Selective memory can be harmful so try not to be that person. >
  
  So what's the threshold that atrocities committed by Hindus should cross so you'll acknowledge that they are not 'random incidents'?
  
  9 11 had more deaths
  
  I see, we are moving the goalposts. Yes, 9 11 had thousands of deaths - comparable to the Godhra riots in our own backyard which you seem to be blissfully unaware of. >
  
  You should also be aware that godhra riots like the term riots wasn't one sided. 
  I didn't move goal posts. I was just letting you know that there are quite a number of examples to go by when it comes to atrocities by Islamic terrorists.
  Isis, different train bombings, al Qaeda. Every country across Africa, Asia, Europe has its own painful story to share. Can't be shared here coz there is so many. And that too happening every day. 
  Merely stating some stories from the history of India doesn't do any justice to your earlier delusional argument of 'hindus commited as many atrocities as muslims' . Nor does it support this baseless claim. All it does is it tells me that you are just looking to win an argument. >
  
  My prayers and condolences to victims and their families.
  I feel like under Sharif's government Pakistan is not at all doing good they are facing economical issues, pak govt has increased the prices of basic needs, and now people have security issues too. In order to survive the pak govt has to do a lot of work. >
  
  This has been long in the making. Sharif happens to have the misfortune of being in power currently, though I'm sure he will still exit this mess unscathed. >
  
  Just to remind everyone who owns Pakistan. >
  
  Fucking hell >
  
  Damn >
  
  Pakistan could use a break, they've had a miserable past year. >
  
  It's just devastating, and they have a population of 231m, so many people. >
  
  Saddest thing is that for a deomcratic country which has 231m people, Pakistan never had a SINGLE elected government complete full term and has had military rule for way more years than democratic rules, in 75+ years since Independence >
  
  All this because the supreme court OK'd the first military coup and said it was justified so now the army just takes over whenever they want. >
  
  Just another regular day in Pakistan. >
  
  Pakistan has enough problems without these wackos. Maybe they should've spent that US ~~bribe~~ Aid on actually fighting the Taliban. >
  
  I mourn for the dead and I'm disgusted by Pakistans flirting with wahhabists. It's sadly a classic "leopards ate my face" moment. >
  
  Forgive me if this seems like a heartless question...
  But killing 60(apparently an updated number) wounding over 100 is insane. How can a single person carry enough explosives to cause that much carnage? Were regular people allowed to bring duffel bags in the? Were they packed really tight? That number is fucking high like obviously I'm ignorant and don't know all the different types of explosives but man... >
  
  What religion is okay with slaughtering people because they don’t agree? Lol people who use religion as a reason for violence are truly wrapped in their own reality.
  Edit: I stand corrected. >
  
  The majority of them. You should research the topic before posting. Religion is a man made concept of a god exist it’s not an external being, it’s an internal thing. >
  
  Toxic religion. So sad >
  
  Dont blame the religion blame the people its not hard to understand >
  
  Good people do good things, bad people do bad things. It takes religion to make a good person do a bad thing. Their interpretation of their holy book told them what they did was right. So I will give religion half the blame. >
  
  Find me where in the Quran it says killing other Muslims is okay 😭😭 >
  
  Quran does not say killing other Muslims is okay but it is okay with killing non-Muslims. That in itself is a problem.
  Now combine this with the fact that many sects of Islam don't consider other sects Muslim enough and you have a recipe for disaster. >
  
  The same news as yesterday, Miss Sufaira? 
  -The same news as every day, Jaan. >
  
  Pakistan is a failed state supported by US and Saudis. >
  
  And sometime this week the IMF is going to be on the ground there, throwing more alms to these arrogant paupers who have squandered all the previous “loans” on bombs, the army , and financing of terrorists. >
  
  When a group claims to be ultra orthodox but blows up a house of worship of a religion they profess then it don't take a college degree to know the Taliban has been and still is what they kicked Russia's azz over in Afghanistan...the world's most powerful opiate syndicate >
  
  religion poisons everything >
  
  Self destruction >
  
  Isn't God just fuckin' wonderful? >
  
  Let me try to fix the headline: Suicide bomber kills 44, wounds 150 in attack at police base >
  
  Holyyyyy molyyyyy >
  
  Money is one heck of a motivator >
  
  For fucks sake Barry… >
  
  Soooo is it internal affairs against their corrupt fundamentalist government? >
  
  By god that’s devastating >
  
  I don’t hear Muslims condemning this shit - they probably condone it. >
  
  Ban bombs? >
  
  Meh country that inhabits terrorist cults gets hit by terrorist cult, its not news its what was gonna logically happen. Bangladesh got so far after getting out from under pakistan's boot while pakistan remained the same shithole. >
  
  Still less than the mass shootings we’ve had in the USA. >
  
  lol at religious people blowing up each other because of ancient fairytales >
  
  Tonedeaf. >
  
  They do this for their own extremist followers, but it’s a losing battle for them. It just creates more resolve to fight back. >
  
  This should be on LAMF.  A highly religious society who's religion condones this sort of behavior elsewhere gets a dose themselves.....   And to top it off it's IN A CHURCH!  Ironically ludacris. >
  
  Raise your hand if you don’t belong to a cult 🙋‍♂️ >
  
  Pakistan, huh? Jeez, I never would’ve thought it could happen there. >
  
  All in the name of religion 🤷 >
  
  Religion is mind poison. >
  
  Was it a Sunni attacking a Shia mosque? >
  
  Nah, taliban attacking police >
  
  Goddamn stooges 🤦‍♂️ >
  
  A country which is created due to religious intolerance, run by religious extremists who don't hesitate to use terrorism as a tool for achieving their goals, Religious bigotry is ingrained in people's mind. 
  It's quite natural when the snakes you have sheltered are coming to bite you back. >
  
  This was shocking, >
  
  How can we reduce these suicide bombers? Can we pass some laws to make it illegal? >
  
  Uhhh yea... good idea I don't think anyone else thought of that... >
  
  i don’t think there’s a god. i don’t think there’s someone coming to save us. and i don’t think that’s the worst news of the day >
  
  Yeah. True. People who get this truth anytime are way better in facing life than those who search for god in vain for their entire lives. >
  
  There are no gods, no devils, no angels, no heaven or hell. There is only our natural word. Religion is but myth and superstition that hardens hearts and enslaves minds. >
  
  Religion is a coping mechanism for death. 
  Why do so many atheists struggle to make this connection?
  The indoctrination and enslavement is secondary. >
  
  Did you read the news? A religious nutcake KILLED HIMSELF and a bunch of others because he's coping for death? >
  
  The only reason he was ok with killing himself is because he believes in life after death. >
  
  This is why we need to stop radicalisation of Europe... I like Pakistanis as a whole, my dad has known his Pakistani friend for 30 years and I grew up calling him uncle, but the risk of letting bad apples in is too high, we need to secure our borders >
  
  Why is “Islamic terrorism” a term? When’s the last you heard of “Christian terrorism”, “Hindu terrorism”?
  Why is “Islamaphobia” a thing ? >
  
  Islamophobia is a term invented to stop any and all criticism of an overtly fascist and extremely dangerous ideology. Leftists love to equate islam with christianity and oh Christians in west as just as bad. No they are not. And if you want to protect human civilization, truely, you need to debunk islam for what it is. Unless a tsunami of exmuslims arrives we are doomed. Ilhan Omar wants to prevent criticism of islam by introducing islamophobia bill, it's like thing our hands and feet. >
  
  Wait til you hear about Christianity in Africa >
  
  Or in the US. Why are we all collectively pretending Christian nationalists didn't participate in countless mass killings in the US in the last few years? >
  
  Brown people badder.... >
  
  if somebody told me the truth about suicide bombers I would care. >
  
  Terrorists* murdering innocent civilians who are father's, brothers, sons and some might even be role models of their society. Don't be too quick to judge and don't dehumanize these people this way >
  
  I will be downvoted for this but, as long as it's not in the west people in reddit are not going to care about it. >
  
  Religious whackos have been killing each other in the middle east for centuries. Forgive people for not acting shocked each time it happens.