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  YES! I had a sheltered easy childhood and your analysis is completely accurate. When I hit 18, shit hit the fan real hard and I didn’t know how to deal with hardships of any kind
context: I think the major reason people think adulthood sucks is money. You’re lucky if you think the only stressful thing about paying bills is the time it takes to write a check or set up auto payments >
  
  Well you also need to find a job and stick to it, how's that a problem >
  
  Rent in my city is $800. There is chick I worked with at McDonald’s that had been there for like 10 years. I’ll never forget her. 
  She’s had two jobs her whole life, 37, had kids and still has one living with her, and barely makes rent. I told her why don’t you get a better job? 
  She said, I have no fucking time for job interviews, nowhere is close enough, I only have my diploma, I work 6-7 days a week, 10-12 hours a day, and I don’t have a car. 
  She walks everywhere. And lives in an apartment that’s only $800 a month in our city! Sounds like a hell of a way to save money, right? WRONG! It’s fucked, after rent, insurance, food, she still barely has any money for food. I used to buy her food, working at McDonald’s while in high school.
  How can you save up money for college, a down payment on a car, deposit for cheaper rent, if you can’t afford to eat, already working constantly????
  America is fucked. 60% of households are paycheck to paycheck. Comfortable living wage is 60k. Average is 35k. You should know this, yet you’re blind. Learn for fucks sake. >
  
  "I don't have time for interviews" is the most made-up excuse, I can't even believe someone has used it. It's not anyone's fault she's in this situation. >
  
  Yeah right she should just go to the job interview on the 8th day of the week when she doesn't work /s >
  
  She can call in sick, take a day off (when it's possible), or move to a 2x cheaper place (a room) for a few months until she saves enough to survive 3 months, then give her notice and be free to go to interviews. She can get another part-time job until she saves enough to do the same. She can move to a cheaper location etc. I'm not saying it's easy or nice >
  
  Fuck yeah, that'll give her like 5 days worth of interviews if the company agrees to a specific date notified weeks in advance and no place for her kids to sleep. Stellar plan. >
  
  Why not sleep in the same room as her kids for a few months? She can also apply to many companies and explain her situation. >
  
  imagine thinking companies care about your situation omegalul >
  
  Haha, I didn't say they are a charity like most people downvoting me expect. But you can say "I am free for an interview on X and Y dates/days of the week" in your motivational letter and say why you want to change your job. >
  
  The positives far outweigh the negatives. For example, I can eat cake for breakfast >
  
  See that's where you and I are different, for me it's like. "I never have to eat unhealthy food again, since I can chose my own meals" >
  
  The people who view adulthood as great because they can eat whatever they want will be in for a rude awakening in a couple decades.  You can often borrow against your future bodies health for a long time though before those debts are called in >
  
  True, though I think if you suddenly start to practice good diet and exercise in old age, you can be in phenomenal condition, well above average. We need more grandma and grandpa body transformation montages! >
  
  I’m only 31 and no amount of good diet and exercise will get me back to phenomenal condition. You gotta take care of it in the moment. >
  
  I don’t believe that. People have turned their lives and health around at much older ages. >
  
  Oh of course they have! And I’m happy for them! But it’s not always possible to make it that far without irreversible damage happening first, is what I’m saying. If I had taken better care of myself in my 20’s, I wouldn’t have tendinitis in my elbows, a hemorrhoid, and a hernia. Years of neglect and those things (or the affects of them) are with me forever. >
  
  I think some of that is just bad luck. What did you do to cause those things? The average person your age would not have such problems just living a normal life, even if they did not take any special care of themselves. >
  
  Working a lot and drinking heavily in my early 20’s. >
  
  Lol paying bills isn’t stressful because the physical act of paying them is difficult it’s the spending most of your time earning the money to pay them and the high stakes consequences of not being able to do so that sucks >
  
  Fr i love me some paid bills  and i love working but sometimes you just wanna lay in bed >
  
  You...love working? >
  
  I love working too. It's sad how normalized it is to hate work. Obviously some dead-end jobs suck, but the same people seem to say "I don't live to work, I work to live" everytime you suggest doing something more challenging >
  
  I honestly think it's sad how normalized it is to say we love work.
  If you won billions, would you keep working exactly the same way with no changes? 
  If your answer is anything other than an immediate yes, you don't love working. >
  
  I would 100% not be okay if I had nothing to do all day than sit in bed watch YouTube and hang out
  I love working and would continue to code most of my day if I ever won the lottery, but I would never buy a lottery ticket tbh >
  
  Who said you had to do that? Plenty to do.
  I have way too much to do even if I never work again. >
  
  like? >
  
  I don't get nearly as much family time as I want.
  I have a list of chores and errands to run that I never have time for.
  I have a stack of magazines and books I don't have time to read. Same with shows, movies, music, etc. 
  I barely have time to work out and try to stay healthy and I'd love to do a lot more working out.
  I'd also love to just explore all the things I want to do and don't have time. >
  
  this implies that people cannot do all of these things. you can love your work and still engage in downtime activities and social activities. hell, i work and decided to go back to school, but that doesn't stop me from going out, reading, getting chores and errands done, etc. it is possible to do both, it's just about making it work with your schedule. >
  
  This is kind of a case-by-case subject matter my dude >
  
  Adulthood would be great if it wasn’t so isolating. I legitimately have no idea how to make friends or meet people outside of a college setting or even where to start. >
  
  The way to make friends is to say yes to every social opportunity and ask people to participate in social opportunities, and seek them out yourself. Staying at home with your S.O. only won't net you new friends, though it is totally fine to do so if you enjoy that. >
  
  This requires you to be invited to multiple social opportunities on a regular. >
  
  Not to mention, have the time, and interest, to participate. >
  
  If you don’t have interest then maybe you’re not interested in making friends. lol
  There are online groups that do meetups based on commonalities. You should check out some local ones and chat with the people in the group or attend a meet up and see what happens. It’s a great way to make friends and only requires as much energy as you’re willing to put it. >
  
  I love being an adult. 
  Being a child was horrible. You have zero control over what happens to you. I'd rather work, pay bills, cook and do laundry. >
  
  That analogy makes zero sense. >
  
  I mean, if you have A job that pays for all your bills, your housing, your future, AND a little left over for some fun, then yes, being an adult doesn’t suck.
  But how many have to “hustle” to just do the first two, never mind the last two? And how many here look down on people who live paycheck to paycheck, see them sad, and tell them they just need to work harder, as if they aren’t already working hard?
  It only doesn’t suck if you have the means to actually live beyond survival mode. >
  
  Bingo. >
  
  Paying bills? No problem. 
  Wage slavery? Depressing. >
  
  If you can afford your bills and to do things it is great… if you live paycheck to paycheck it is soul crushing and stressful. (I’m a teacher, so is my wife, can’t afford to live) >
  
  How can y’all not afford to live on two teacher salaries, i make like 13k a year and still live 💀 >
  
  Congrats you’re on the poverty line. Weird flex but ok >
  
  Adult life doesn't stick when you're not paying to live. 
  When you're like so many of us where a single bad moment that even anyone else can intentionally cause that puts you so far behind that you start losing everything, it dominoes into even losing your job. 
  Adult life sucks because if I miss a single bill, I can lose where we live, our car, our jobs, our kids. 
  We weren't always living like this. We used to be well off. Now we have to have foods stamps to survive except someone reported us for fraud so now we have lost food stamps until we can prove it wasn't fraud. 
  We have multiple full time incomes, but I'm still limited in what I can do because of disabilities I have, and because of that we can't afford ride share services. If we lose our car, we lose our jobs. We lose our home, then we'll lose our kids. 
  Adult life doesn't suck only when you aren't working to live. >
  
  
  Adult life sucks because if I miss a single bill, I can lose where we live, our car, our jobs, our kids. 
  
  So the problem might be having kids, which is a big expense, before you have a substantial financial buffer. We would all be living paycheck to paycheck if we made sure to get things we can barely afford. >
  
  Except when I first had kids, I could easily afford it. Here lately, I can't. Literally nothing changed these last 6 years except the price of everything has increased. My wife and I have both received multiple raises yet cost of living continues to go up faster than our income. 
  At the rate everything is going, even those without kids are going to struggle the way we do. >
  
  Strange, we've had over 18% inflation these past years where I'm from and while we did feel it we didn't feel it that much. No kids however. At 50% of our income unused I still feel we can't really afford them cause it's a ~20 year commitment. So I guess it depends on your perspective. >
  
  So only the rich should have children?
  While i agree with wise living and doing your best to not have a family when you can't afford it (birth control, vasectomy)  I also don't care for the argument that children are a purely financial consequence. >
  
  See that wouldn't work because countries do need workforce. Only the rich having children wouldn't suffice. Decreasing birthrates can make governments pass laws that incentivize having children. Of course, this only works in countries where government would rather do that than ban abortions or bring in cheap workforce from abroad.
  So obviously not, children aren't just for the rich. 
  But a lot people are birthing children that will struggle to survive. We're delaying a problem rather than solving it. But I suppose some people see their children's lifetime of struggle worth it. >
  
  Idk, it depends. What I do feel now that I’m an adult, compared to when I was a kid, is that things are less exciting. When you’re a kid everything is new and exciting, magic exists. When you’re an adult there’s exciting things, but it’s not the same >
  
  Yeah, I love doing exactly what the fuck I want to. That’s a highly underrated advantage of adult life. >
  
  I wish I had the money to do what I want to >
  
  Lmaoooo, the act of paying the bills isn’t the hard part. People aren’t complaining about that. They’re frustrated that it costs so much to live and that most have to live as a wage slave to simply rent an apartment or feed ourselves. >
  
  For real… having enough money goes a long ways towards easing the stress of everyday adult life. >
  
  Getting the money to pay those bills is not easy and when the price or bills, groceries, rent, and other things continue to climb but my pay isn't paying those things becomes less easier and more stressful. 
  My life as a kid growing up was stressful, being an adult is more stressful. At least as a kid I didn't have to worry about working and bills. I had school and then could come home, do one or two basic ass chores, maybe do some homework, and then chill for the rest of the day/weekend with no other worries. 
  I worry 24/7 about all the shit that I need to get done on the days I don't have work. I don't have a chance to sit down and relax for long periods of time anymore, I got shit that needs to be done and a lot of it cost money that I simply do not always have. I hate it. >
  
  the problem is time, normal folk need to work 8-10 hours a day, 5-7 days a week to pay for bills and necessities.
  they get almost zero time to be “free“ and thats not even including the time needed for responsibilities outside of work.
  I dunno what job you have but it must be pretty cozy if you have the time to be “free” >
  
  I like what you’re saying but I don’t think you understand WHY people hold this common sentiment. 
  People don’t have a problem with paying bills and accepting responsibilities. I think most of us know that that is a part of life and can be very rewarding. 
  People have a problem with adult life because you begin to see how the world operates. It’s incredibly depressing. I’m not sure what country you’re in but where I am we have a system that is run by corporations, many of which are run by greedy egotistical maniacs who make awful decisions that make the workplace unbearable. When these “leaders” plans fail due to being founded on ego rather than reality, they reach out to the government, who sends them to the people who literally own the currency, and some guy who is incapable of blinking literally prints more money for them simply because “they are too big to fail.” Oh. Also this money is actually, factually fake. It has no resemblance to anything related to value whatsoever. 
  Sounds pretty miserable doesn’t it? 
  So you think ok, I’ll generate my own wealth, despite the fact that money is fake. Not a bad idea, except that if you are capable of producing a product or service that is functional and sustainable, the previously mentioned corporations will either sue you out of business with bullshit laws, create campaigns that destroy your business, and even sometimes kill you. 
  So basically your left with 2 options: become the egotistical maniac and lose any sense of humanity, or become a drone who accomplishes pointless tasks on behalf of such corporations and live paycheck by paycheck without ever having the opportunity to own anything for yourself, including your time. 
  I hope that sums it up nicely. >
  
  At that point you just buy shares of the companies that would do anything to stay at the top and get rich with them. >
  
  No, because as previously mentioned these company’s products don’t hold water. So their shares go to shit. But the company doesn’t die. It gets bailed out and everyone except the CEOs lose. And then they redo that cycle. 
  Also, even if you do make the right calls on the companies stock and make money off it, I’m not sure how living in a place where the economy is an actual casino isn’t miserable. >
  
  Luckily there are index funds so you don't actually have to try and pick the winner, as long as a few of those shitty companies make it, you make it too. It stops being gambling and turns into investing once you diversify enough.
  ETA I don't think it's a perfect system but it's currently the only way I can think of that will make it possible for me to retire. >
  
  I will keep that in mind, thanks. 
  What a wild world. >
  
  I think the only thing that sucks about adulthood is less time to do the things you love. Once you start a family, you start to yearn for those times as a kid where you had hours of free time. >
  
  That’s why it’s great to be childless. My husband and I travel, go out, and do whatever we want with absolutely no worries outside of showing up for work. I have way more free time now than when I was a kid and had a million extra-curriculars and was pushed constantly to work and study by my parents. >
  
  This honestly having a partner who has the same childfree beliefs as you is the best way to go >
  
  r/richpeoplemoment >
  
  r/subsifellfor >
  
  I absolutely agree. I feel like people who miss being a teenager either peaked in high school and don’t know what to do with themselves, or were a total loser and can’t get over it. As a teen, I was an ugly duckling. A complete fucking nerd. I wanted out so bad that I dropped my chance to be valedictorian and went to night school to finish early. 
  Being an adult is so freeing. I have my own money. I never have to hear “do you have McDonald’s money?” “No, you don’t need that” or “all you wear is black, pick something” ever again.  I don’t need to ask permission to go anywhere or do anything. If I want bacon at 3 am, I can cook bacon at 3 am. I don’t have to rush to do my AP homework. I’m not awake at 7 am on a Saturday morning because bachata is blasting because we’re about to clean. I don’t need to ask a teacher to use the bathroom. I don’t need to walk into a school building, hand over my phone and then wait in a long ass line to get it back before I go home. The only downside is having to do the dishes and doing my own laundry, which I’ve been doing since I was 14 anyway. >
  
  by all traditional standards I have a perfectly great adult life, but I still enjoy the juvenile fun of high school more than anything >
  
  This post was made by a government agent to keep us content with our sad lives. /j >
  
  Nah, adult life sucks. You make it sound like the action of paying bills is what makes it tough to people LMAO. Trying to stay financially stable, having the money for bills plus necessities on a monthly basis is what is stressful. People struggle to stay afloat because they have to make enough money. Your post just comes off as tone deaf lmfao.
  On top of this, because everything needs money in order for us to have basic needs like food and shelter, pretty much all adult life is is getting up in the morning, going to work all day, coming home, and then only having an hour or two to do what you want (or to do household chores) before needing to go back to sleep for work in the morning. Adult responsibility is incredibly taxing and unfulfilling unless you're privileged and rich. >
  
  Well when I was a kid I believed that anything was possible. That magic was real. That people are generally good. That love was the greatest thing in the world, could conquer all things, and was everlasting.
  There were no bills.
  No worries about my mental health.
  No worries about friends or relationships.
  No stress over money.
  Going to school was my biggest gripe was school and grades.
  I didn't have to actively work at finding happiness. It came from things as simple as popping in a video game or watching cartoons on an off day from school.
  And the world seemed filled with endless possibilities.
  That ease of life and ignorance was bliss compared to being an adult. >
  
  Sounds like you had a sheltered upbringing where you didn't experience any hardships. Adulthood would seem hard if you never had to face eviction with your parents, go hungry, be beat, verbally abused, get picked on at school etc