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  What informs the assumption of the legal system in this case? I would suggest that the court assumes that the murdered woman wanted to keep the child, which would justify two charges of murder.
  By framing abortions as murder, you’re explicitly criminalizing many forms of medical care. Someone murdering a pregnant woman =/= a woman choosing to not carry a pregnancy to term if the intent of the woman is the core assumption courts rely on to justify two charges of murder for the killing of a mother and her unborn child.
context: Fascism and bigotry are expensive. >
  
  Let’s go on offense. I’ll go to any state that restricts people’s freedoms and win business and hardworking people from them. I’m looking at you, Ohio and Indiana.”
  Anecdotally as an Ohioan, we have been planning a move to Michigan for about a year now, even prior to the 2022 elections. We encourage any friends who are looking at getting out of Ohio to check it out. Politics aside, the general vibe of the population just seems to be much more positive and chill in general compared to its southern neighbors. >
  
  East side is pretty good. West side isn't bad as long you find the right spots. GR and Kalamazoo are pretty good.
  I suspect things will get much better throughout the state over the next 20 years. The 20-40 year olds seem largely pretty good. >
  
  I really enjoy the west coast of Michigan. >
  
  Just a reminder for people thinking about moving here. Grand Rapids only gets about 160 days of sun a year.
  Winters are dreary as hell and seasonal affective disorder is real. Shit gets real depressing around here. >
  
  Ha, coming from Columbus it may actually be sunnier there. >
  
  According to the search I just did it's 175. So close, but nope. >
  
  I look forward to helping her become president one day. >
  
  Is 2024 too soon? >
  
  Yes. 2028 would be nice though. >
  
  I don’t blame her for being pissed. MAGA tried to kidnap her. >
  
  Don’t forget the murder part too.  That’s where I draw the line >
  
  
  "Bigotry is bad for business,” Whitmer exclaimed while discussing the need for Michigan to expand reproductive rights and LGBTQ+ anti-discrimination laws in the state.
  Whitmer explained that not only is protecting these civil rights the right thing to do, but it’s also good for the economy because states lose talent when their laws are too extreme.
  
  It's also bad for business to concentrate government on restricting people's rights. >
  
  Ofcourse it should not have to do with what’s good for business or economy only. >
  
  You’re not wrong…but if getting people to see the economics of doing the right thing is the only realistic way to get it done…well, we work with the world we have. >
  
  As an Ohioan, I’m envious of the leadership she has shown compared to what we have here. >
  
  Same!  Where did she come from and where can we get one? >
  
  This is step 1 in taking back Toledo >
  
  As an active michigander, 
  They can keep toledo. >
  
  I visited Toledo a few times (ex's family was there) and I can recall absolutely nothing noteworthy about that city.
  Apparently the zoo is cool, but that's easy to relocate. >
  
  It’s a smaller city, so you’re not going to find lots of tourist attractions. 
  That said, the zoo and the Toledo Art Museum are both top notch, much better than some larger cities. 
  Cedar Point is down the road, which is the best amusement park in the world. 
  There is a good metro parks system. 
  It’s on Lake Erie, which means lots of good summertime recreation. >
  
  They have haunted houses there. >
  
  Bring it. I hate living here. The only thing in Indiana's favor, is that Oklahoma and Mississippi exist. Regressive, religious demagogues, gerrymandered forever into a massive power imbalance. They don't care about what people want. They only care about power and using it. >
  
  She’s not wrong. We moved here to Indiana 20 years ago, and it’s a lot more racist than most people think. It’s not the big flag waving stuff, though that happens too, but the small insidious stuff- the small talk tinged slightly, the visual cues, mild (yet not mild) break room banter. Would love to move to Michigan, but it’s not in the cards right now. In all honesty, moving just about anywhere else (except the Deep South) would be better. >
  
  I moved to AZ from IN 10 years ago, and I didn’t realize how much subtle racism there was, even in blue-ish Indy. Things that I would have laughed at I no longer find funny because I had no clue how racist it actually was. >
  
  Just a reminder that when Rick Snyder was governor, he knowingly allowed the population of Flint to drink poisoned water for 5 years.
  And not once did it cross the minds of black folks to try kidnapping him. >
  
  The people of Flint deserve justice. >
  
  Posts from LGBTQnation help mitigate the shitposts from Fox and NYP. 💕 >
  
  I grew up in Ohio and went to OSU. Most of my friends moved to the East/West coasts after college. Any friends who stayed in Ohio are now considering moving away - a lot looking into Michigan due to proximity. I moved back to Ohio last year after 8 years in NYC. Definitely looking into new jobs in Michigan now. Ohio doesn’t feel safe as a queer person. And I live in Columbus. >
  
  Is 'savages' the new 'slams'? >
  
  First time I’ve seen it used as a verb. >
  
  Other than the various groups of people they hate the only thing the GQP cult hates more is truth spoken to their greed, hatred, bigotry and intolerance. >
  
  When I was young(60s)we visited Michigan all the time as my grandparents lived there. We were a short ride away in Indiana. At the time Michigan was hillbilly central. The state now has wonderful parks and realized their miles of lake front was a gold mine. It has improved leaps and bounds. Now when I visit Michigan I return to hillbilly central, Indiana. >
  
  We're still hillbilly central.
  Source: my family. >
  
  Well by definition I'm a hillbilly. Born in Michigan and lived there briefly. All my family is still there, however I personally try not to practice hillbillyism. LOL. >
  
  As an Iowan, nothing is more entertaining than the Ohio/Michigan hate orgy. It feels sort of like our version of the rest of the EU watching England and France. >
  
  As one who has spent most of their lives in Indiana, I'm always looking for a good opportunity to leave. >
  
  Former Hoosier here, Phoenix has lots of opportunities, and isn’t flat. >
  
  I won't even drive through Ohio. >
  
  News... Republicans are not conservative. >
  
  Tax relief for businesses and workers who move here might not be a bad idea. >
  
  Can we get it from a state that I don't hate because of football? PA, you wanna jump in? >
  
  I’m neutral on invading Ohio. >
  
  The parts closest to you aren't worth invading. They'd turn your state red. >
  
  What if they just took Youngstown for the university? >
  
  Yeah, but then you'd have to deal with other parts of Youngstown. >
  
  I hate titles written in this manner. It doesn't get much better when you read the article. It's an exercise is self felating. By reading the article your asking for more of the same style. >
  
  I'm a native Ohioan and that state needs to be called out for being a shit hole. Columbus is the only good thing the state has going and they're working hard to make it unappealing by turning the state into a real life Gilead. >
  
  I'm convinced you could have written a better article. >
  
  Garbage title. “Savages”, “Bigotry”, “fume”…. Buzzword central, really helping with the divide. >
  
  Ok Instead of bigotry what word would you use? >
  
  Hell yeah, big Gretch >
  
  Please use your self-described common sense.  Women who want to get an abortion don’t decide to carry a baby for nine months.  Therefore, the women who get late term abortions do so predominantly for medical reasons, for a baby they wanted.  Time limits are health care limits. >
  
  Ok, so we agree... If there is a health concern as a Republican I can be on board for late term abortion but only in cases where there is rape or a true life threatening / changing health concern for the mother....  See, you just found common ground with a Republican... Its not that hard just need to talk thru it... >
  
  No, we do not agree.  Any legislation which restricts this choice also restricts often-necessary medical care.  Doctors become limited by hospital administrators by threat of liability, and are unable to intervene even in cases where the mother’s life is threatened. >
  
  So you are for murder.... got it....  Even when we agree your liberal bias doesn't allow you to because you are so clouded by the fight... Common sense my friend... 80% of the US population can find common ground if they just talk thru it like adults. >
  
  ROFL. I like how you can arbitrarily decide when abortion is murder and when it isn't. >
  
  When a healthy child can live outside a womb on there own its murder...  That is clear as day...  Why if you kill a pregnant woman you get charged with two counts...