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  Ukraine has already done drone attacks against Russian infrastructure.
context: Russia makes the bet that Iran can produce drones faster than NATO can produce anti-air missiles. >
  
  Honestly I think they’ll be able to do it cheaper with high volume computer assisted machine gun fire or computer guided anti drone electronic warfare weapons. 
  Missiles are expensive but a tracked weapon that either doesn’t need reloading or costs a fraction of a missile is coming. >
  
  Drones are probably just set to fly to a given gps location and then crash there. So fairly resistent to any countermeasure unless it involves messing with GPA signal. >
  
  would it be though? if the drones goes in a straight predictable line then a computer could easily track it and shoot it down no? (disclaimer I know jack shit about this stuff) >
  
  It's not straight line. They can programm them to any route. E.g. fly 5 meter turn left fly 10 meter turn right. It's just that all of this done on ground before launching >
  
  The Iranian drones are planes, not helicopters so they have to fly fairly straight. >
  
  Um? So you saying drones can't change direction? Yes they can. >
  
  Lol, yes of course they can change direction, but an aeroplane drone turns slowly. Ever seen a plane, turn a perfect 90 degrees in the air? >
  
  Ok, 5-10meters was example that they just can change direction not literal value, no idea what their actual turn radius, just know that they change direction multiple times during fly to target >
  
  Ok, fair enough, I was just letting you know in case you thought these were helicopter drones. >
  
  The Nazis tried that in London during WW2. It didn't work then and I hope that it fails again. >
  
  It will fail, attempting to beat a population into submission never works. They just become more resilient, vengeful, resourceful people.
  Ukraine will win this war, my only fear is that it may take years. The sooner somebody takes care of Putin, the sooner the war will end. Putin is reliant on victory in Ukraine to ensure his continued domestic dictatorship. >
  
  Yep, you either annihilate thoroughly, destroying everything, or you leave them alone.
  Walking anywhere in the middle just doesn't work. >
  
  The takeaway:  Russia's supposedly formidable army has been reduced to cheap drones. >
  
  That they import >
  
  From Iran. >
  
  When I see 'made in Iran' I think: quality >
  
  Those words also invite me to start thinking about the quality of the product, yes. >
  
  Still better than anything Russia manages to make after decades of underfunding and embezzlement in the military-industrial complex that is supposed to be their only venue of parity with the West. A large part of why we feared Russia's army was the observation of miserable Russian living standards and a mistaken conclusion that they are being sacrificed for military power. Turns out a government of thieves and liars ruins everything under its watch, no exceptions. Even the secret police largely feigns ruthless competency by arresting random people and torturing them until they confess. >
  
  Maybe retool a single European lawn-mover factory to produce a couple of thousand cheap knockoffs every month and donate them to Ukraine to see if that makes Russia reconsider its stupid plan?
  First month they could be launched with nothing but confetti and party balloons as payload to make a subtle point? >
  
  This would be funny!! Just confetti with "surrender " on every lil paper >
  
  I suppose two can play that game... >
  
  nobody's gonna gine Ukraine drones though