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  I get your point but do you see how "yet another example of the hypocrisy of the west" this looks?
  You want to start on a moral high ground, start it when the high ground is in your own yard. Only then will it seem genuine. 
  Otherwise its just another eye roll and the rest of the world has done enough of that.
context: IOC is mostly corrupt old men looking for their next bribe. >
  
  That would make it better than FIFA, which is entirely corrupt old men looking for the next bribe. >
  
  Let's just call these people what they really are:
  Money sluts. >
  
  I believe the usual term for that is whores. >
  
  Hey at least whores provide a service and probably pay taxes. I’d say IOC and FIFA are more like bottom feeding parasites. >
  
  Hey, at least bottom feeding parasites provide certain species with food. >
  
  Given the amount of drug cheating Russia shouldn't be allowed to compete at all. Do they actually have any clean athletes? >
  
  Isnt that exactly what the IOC did some years back ? I was under the impression that Russian athletes were only allowed to compete as independents,was this rule removed ? >
  
  Making Russian athletes compete as independent athletes from Russia is just a cosmetic label. They’re still representing Russia. It’s a meaningless non-consequence. Everybody still knows what country they represent. >
  
  There was a further burden of proof on them to show that they were clean however.
  I don't know the reality of if that was effective or not though.
  I believe it was mostly athletes that could prove they weren't based in or training out of Russia. >
  
  Er no, don’t you remember what just happened in 2022? Their star ice skating prodigy tested positive DURING the 2022 Olympics and wouldn’t you know it, the Russian WADA reversed it after one whole day suspension and the medals still haven’t been distributed. Shameful. >
  
  Wait, is it about Kamila Valieva? She failed a drug test in Dec 2021 and was revealed during the Olympics, but she technically didn't fail a drug test for her competition in olympics and the case was ongoing. Thus she's allowed to compete but a ceremony won't be held if she finishes top 3 (she finished 4th).
  Some of her 2021 results were canceled and Sasha finally got her deserved gold recently though, but the punishments were still probably too light. >
  
  Not OP but it sounds like Kamila. Wasn't her failed test on the day of their nationals or some other olympic qualifier? I have little faith that any Eteri skater is actually clean but that debacle takes the cake. Russia should be banned from the olympics based on that circus alone. 
  
  punishments were still probably too light.
  
  She received little to no punishments in the grand scheme of things. She was celebrated as the 'hero of Russia who was robbed by the west!' Then the Russian anti doping committee declared her innocent and she went on to tell the story of her 'persecution' through her ridiculous free skate this year. >
  
  The IOC is the main reason I haven't cared about the Olympics in years. Fuck that corrupt shitbag organization. >
  
  Ever since it split the Olympics from summer/winter every 4 years to an event every 2 years I lost interest.  Less time for overall hype. >
  
  That was a while ago, right? >
  
  30 years I think, starting from Lillehammer 1994. >
  
  I am too young to even know they once organised them in the same year. >
  
  A lot of those athletes are also military personel. >
  
  This is a nuanced scenario, which Reddit is often not the best at sorting through. 
  On one hand, yes, many of these athletes do not support the war, and have nothing to do with it. Their careers are very short, and may be competitive for only 1-2 Olympics as the human physical peak is fairly young. 
  On the other hand, Putin’s regime uses sports as a way to promote nationalism and show how “strong” the country is. He realized the political benefit enough to have a literal state-sponsored doping program. There is even a term for this, Sportswashing, a way to do reputation laundering, which does strengthen his position of power.
  Having Russian athletes compete an unattached is also BS, as everyone knows it’s Russia under another name, and Russia can just call them Russians. There is not an obvious solution that allows athletes to pursue their dreams without giving a genocidal regime some soft power and legitimacy. >
  
  i dont care if some russian olympic athletes are the nicest people in the world, never cheated or took ped, russia is killing and torturing civilians, tagetting civilian infrastructure to cause terror and humanitarian crisis, basically committing acts of genocide by kidnapping children etc...
  the fuck is this 'nuance' here? >
  
  Because nobody banned a lot of other unsavory regimes/starter of military conflicts either. 
  US, UK, China, France, Russia...then you effectively knocked out a huge portion of the planet from competing just because their politicians' choices. >
  
  Yea so? That was 40 years ago.
  Who stopped US from invading Afghanistan? Or Iraq? 
  If US wasn't punished, why should there is an expectation to go after say, China or Russia? >
  
  Past fuckups is not a good argument for continuing fuckups. >
  
  Well then, If you ban China and Russia, then maybe have US leadership for Iraq war to be tried in Hague and provide repatriation or banned from Olympics as well? >
  
  Yes, all war criminals should face justice. >
  
  Sure, but until then, there is no reason for the IOC to single out China, Saudis, Israel, UK or Russia (or whoever you think are bad), unless US athletes are also sanctioned. >
  
  Unless they're calling for all nations engaged in war or any military offensive whatsoever to be barred from the Olympics, it likely won't work. How would you draft a policy that specifically targets only Russia but not the Pemon conflict or the Israeli-Palestine conflict? >
  
  The fact that Ethiopia has killed nearly 700,000 people and still gets to participate would make this ban farcical.
  Either ban all tyrannical regimes or none. Picking and choosing is unfair to most of humanity. >
  
  The problem is who decides who is banned and what are the criteria for banning? What if the IOC decided trump was a tyrant and banned UsA from competing? I think it’s better to be neutral as possible. As shit as Russia is we cannot just claim to have an international competition and then ban nations we don’t like >
  
  
  ban nations we don’t like
  
  It's not about not liking them or disagreeing with their political system etc, it's about them actively waging war on another country in combination with state-sponsored systematic doping. Those are very clear critera for not being welcome at the Olympics. >
  
  “Waging war on another country” so why was the USA allowed to compete from 2003-2021? >
  
  Where was its state sponsored dopping programme? >
  
  Never expect anything remotely resembling ethics or morality from sports organizations. >
  
  the ioc has a long and colorful history of being a huge hypocritical asshole >
  
  Let them have their own backwater Olympics with Iran and South africa. >
  
  People said the same thing about the world cup, yet it had the most views out of any world cup. Don't hold your breath. >
  
  Shockerrrr, 100% of developed nations don’t give a fuck about slavery or human abuses especially in backwater countries lol >
  
  neither do developing countries as well lol. >
  
  Boycott the Olympics. Then the IOC can wack it all they want >
  
  Olympics lost their luster in 1936 if you ask me >
  
  Jesse Owens was a step toward civil rights. >
  
  
  waiting for the IOC to take a stand for the right thing
  
  Got bad news for you my guy, that's not what they do >
  
  I'm as pro-Ukraine as it gets.
  However, I think there should be some exemptions from the "Boycott anything Russian" bandwagon.
  Those exemptions would be:
  
  History such as museums
  Culture/Art
  The Olympics
  International Space station >
  
  I would like to agree with you but the main motivation why russia is doing those is nationalism that it uses to further its own agenda (control citizens). Because it has bastardized the meaning it's fair to boycott. >
  
  What country doesn’t use those things to further a sense of nationalism?? >
  
  You only read half of my sentence.
  The problem is when you use that national pride as a tool to influence people to whatever agenda you're having. >
  
  Same question as before >
  
  Headline: Ukraine Uses every possible avenue to blacklist Russia and name calls if it doesn't get it's way.
  I'm rooting for Ukraine but this shitposting everyone who doesn't yield to them isn't a great look. >
  
  People, we all saw “Muriel’s Wedding.” If you’re a Russian athlete and want to participate in the Olympics, then move to Australia, marry a Toni Collette type, otherwise fuck off! >
  
  I agree with Ukraine on this. F the Russian athletes.  Sorry but you are representing not just yourself but your country and they invaded and are murdering people of another country.  You want to compete then push back at your government. Else suck it >
  
  Haven't been a huge fan of the Olympics, but won't be watching it this time for sure - I'm enough of covered in blood russian terrorists. Probably won't be watching any Olympics from now on - strong associations are hard to get over, and Olympics personally for me  now will be associated with IOC, corruption, drugs, and russian terrorists. >
  
  Haha all the countries that killed hundreds thousand civilians in the past 40 years and participated in Olympics and only now you decided that you mind it >
  
  He has Reddit brain >
  
  if ioc follows through, all others shall boycott. then it will be lonesome games amongst russia, belarus, iran, north korea, china, india, nicaragua, south africa. >
  
  Again, If they banned Russia for this, they would have to ban other nations. The US would be banned for Vietnam, 'The war on terror', syria, and countless South American countries they destabilized. >
  
  The fact that the IOC didn’t do what was right 50 years ago isn’t really an argument against doing what’s right this time.