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  And what do you think "ruzzian style coup" means?
context: This moratorium on asylum decisions and deportation for Russian conscripts was extended by six months by the state secretary on Wednesday.
  The ministry said it still needed more reliable information about "to what extent conscripts in Russia were (forcefully) deployed in the war in Ukraine," the ministry wrote. Therefore, "it is not yet possible to carefully decide on the asylum applications of Russian conscripts from 18 to 27 years old."
  
  Worth pointing on. >
  
  guess xenophobia is okay now?
  The reality is that if i put an average, factory-working Volodymyr and Vladimir in front of you and asked them which Brad Pitt movie they most enjoy you'd not be able to tell me which one is Russian and which one is Ukrainian >
  
  Russian emigrants tend to maintain their nationalism, and are often a security threat. That is how they created the world's largest mafia network, with the world being completely blind to it, because they were too busy romanticizing russians.
  
  The reality is that if i put an average, factory-working Volodymyr and Vladimir in front of you and asked them which Brad Pitt movie they most enjoy you'd not be able to tell me which one is Russian and which one is Ukrainian
  
  A meaningless question would give no answers? That's crazy. Try asking something more serious- like whether they think Russia should give back the lands they took from Ukraine. If russians will do this to their slavic brothers at the behest of their government, don't assume they wouldn't do worse to you if they were actually told to. >
  
  What? You could not be more wrong, unless you are talking post USSR collapse ethnic/religious migrants. But a vast majority of Russian migrants in the past, let's say 10 years, are heavily anti Putin and are not at all nationalistic. >
  
  That is completely false, I can tell you that from vast personal experience. Stop being naive. >
  
  This is not false at all. Now I am sure you are just completely making everything up. Be ashamed. >
  
  Why is it that you're so sure of it? Because it doesn't match your rose-tinted view? I actually speak russian, and grew up surrounded by russian emigrants. You should be ashamed, because your naivete will undermine the entire world, and Eastern Europe will pay for it the most. >
  
  The Russian community of Brooklyn and the Russian community of Tallinn are very different politically, economically and ideologically. >
  
  Are they really "very" different? From my experience, the more west you go the more progressive they get, but it's only a gradual shift, even in America it feels like 50% are staunchly pro-russia >
  
  To people who didn't read the article, this is because Russia claims the mobilization has been completed meaning the Russians are no longer under threat (if their word is taken), so they must go back. Title slightly misleading because it implies mobilization hasn't ended yet, when the article says it has.
  Edit: The Russian Defence Minister says the mobilisation is over, but Putin didn’t sign a decree to end it, so Putin can still ‘legally’ draft anyone at any time he wants.
  Edit 2: Russians can stay for 6 more months in the Netherlands >
  
  The problem that the Russian government will see them a traitors, they are at risk to be persecuted by the Russian government >
  
  How many high value Russians are on the run right now? a million? Persecution would be shooting yourself in the foot. I dont think Russia would do that unless you actually deserted from the army. >
  
  You don’t think Russia would do something to hurt itself? Have you not been paying attention to all of history? >
  
  Yeah, that ship has not only sailed, but sunk with no outside help. >
  
  
  The moratorium does not apply to professional Russian soldiers who then chose to desert the military. "The available information about their situation is sufficient for the IND to be able to decide on applications for international protection from this target group," the Ministry of Justice and Security said.
  
  I'm confused by this article because it's poorly worded. Are they saying that basically they believe Russia when it says that mobilization is over and so you better get ready to go back, UNLESS you volunteered to fight for Russia and then defected instead of being under risk to be FORCED to fight for Russia. Then you're okay? >
  
  This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 72%. (I'm a bot)
  
  
  The Cabinet member in charge of asylum policy said the Dutch immigration service can process asylum applications from Russian people and reject them.
  This is because the "Russian Defense Minister has announced that the mobilization has been completed, and instructed the military units to halt mobilization work as of October 31," the ministry wrote.
  Decisions on asylum applications submitted by Russians conscripts who refuse to serve have been halted for the upcoming half-year.
  
  
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  Just because they can doesn't mean they should.  At this stage the Russians fleeing the country are mostly young, male, fit, dislike Putin, and wealthy enough to buy their way out, and many are also educated. That's a demographic most countries will be happy to siphon away from Russia to supplement their own work force. >
  
  
  dislike Putin
  
  Bold of you to assume that. Russians that I met in the Netherlands were most pro Putin people I have ever seen. >
  
  I'm curious to know how many Russians you've met >
  
  They're talking about 2 or 3 Russian people they personally kinda-sorta know. >
  
  It's not a secret that a huge share of Russians, living in Europe, have some sort of positive feelings about Putin. It's definitely the case in Germany. >
  
  They just tried to stage a ruzzian style coup in Germany like a month ago. How many more examples do we need? Should they just start walking around shooting people, for everyone to notice that something is off with these people... >
  
  Ruzzian style coup? It was literally a bunch of 90 year old monarchists lmao