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  I'm not OP, but I'm legitimately confused as to what should be done in this situation..? Force her into a wheelchair? Wait til she stops resisting? Give up and let her go? Try to negotiate with her? Lure her inside with food? Turn the heater on full blast in the car and wait? Yell "tag, you're it," and run inside?
  I honestly don't know.
context: Rookie. You can never justify dragging, just shooting. >
  
  First thing they teach cadets at the academy. >
  
  This crazy cus ive seen cops not fired for doing worse lol >
  
  It's unlikely that he was a model employee for 6 years and then got fired for this one misdeed. It is more likely that he has a history of issues and this was the straw that broke the camel's back. >
  
  nah, this mistake was just too public. The only thing they care about more than that blue line is bad PR. They cant really spin this so they let him go for the PD down the road to hire him. >
  
  They are not worried about extremely public misdeeds. They wanted him gone for sure. >
  
  This is probably accurate.  What he did isn't even that bad.  Person was uncooperative and sort of forced the scenario.  Yeah, I read the article and they are saying "That isn't policy" and that is likely true.  But as the poster(s) before you indicated they get away with much much worse constantly.  They really wanted this guy gone (and the sad thing is.... this doesn't even mean he was a bad cop.  He might have been speaking out against bad cops so they got rid of him at first opportunity). >
  
  Dollars to donuts he gets hired in a nearby county or another department within the year. >
  
  The union gets him his job back with back pay in six months. >
  
  Why do we allow public servants who already individually hold a lot of authority and power to collectively negotiate?
  America hates unions but this is the one time naturally they would make a fucking exception. >
  
  Because all workers should have the right to collective bargaining. There are no exceptions. Police unions have gone too far and need to be kept more in check, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't exist. >
  
  How do you keep them in check without opening the door to all unions being defanged? >
  
  All other unions already are defanged. There's such a vast imbalance that police unions can lose a huge amount of power and other unions can gain it without even meeting in the middle. As for how? I don't know, that's what we have experts for. >
  
  I'm saying I want you to suggest laws that specifically control the police union without obstructing other already beaten down unions. >
  
  Wheelchair in all police cars trunks. Next years standard load out, coming soon. >
  
  Never forget the time cops rolled Ammon Bundy out of a courthouse in an office chair. >
  
  I thank you for the correction. >
  
  This feels like they were looking for an excuse to fire him and maybe wanted some good PR out of it. If you've been paying attention to headlines over the past couple ~~years~~ decades you know that cops get away with WAY worse on a regular basis. >
  
  Centuries, my dude. If you’ve been paying attention over the past couple centuries you know cops get away with WAY worse in a regular basis. >
  
  
  The woman was being arrested for trespassing, according to the release. A body camera video shows her refusing to leave Damon’s vehicle while parked at the Orient Road Jail and telling the officer, “I want you to drag me.”
  
  Being so easily goaded, this idiot was a lawsuit and wrongful death waiting to happen >
  
  If someone refused to exit and they were rightfully arrested. 
  What would you have done? 
  Please don’t say. “Something else”
  If you identify the actions as wrong. 
  What would you have done? >
  
  Followed policy and went to get help from jail staff or other officers.
  It's in the article. >
  
  Okay and
  What were they going to do if she still refused to exit or walk????
  It’s great defending with to “get jail staff”
  Assuming she does the same thing. It would be jail staff dragging her not police and we’d still be here. 
  If she’s fully not compliant on walking but able to, and is intent on being dragged. You have an uncooperative person. 
  You can either drug them, or attempt to use forceful restraints but using either of those requires getting close to someone who’s not compliant…
  My point being you just deferred without being able to come up with a plan for someone who isn’t complaint. 
  Those who are not complaint do often kick, bite, squirm, and fight. 
  Hospital staff get injured, and patients are often smothered by pure muscle weight until they can literally tranq them.
  But saying all that. As what I last said is standard SOP for a lot of medical staff plus a bunch of other shit afterwards, people will still be screaming saying it’s inhumane
  But no one offers what they would do only that it’s inhumane or yell, get someone else.
  If you’ve never dealt with a full non compliant person depending on the situation there is often times no other option but to tranq them, forcefully get them on a gurney and use leather straps, face(bite / spit mask) and you might have to drag them out to get them to that point. 
  Fully non complaint people are a bit different then someone who is compliant but treated like shit.
  But I’ve seen fully non compliant people face to face and as an observer. Shits not the same as an everyday arrest or medical treatment. >
  
  Okay and
  Its literally on the article champ.  Don't drag uncooperative people on the ground.  Go get a few more people and pick their "non compliant" ass up off the ground and carry them into the jail. >
  
  I don’t get it, this is normal in my area >
  
  What needs to happen with rogue cops is not only firing, but barring them from ever being law enforcement again and remove their pension.  Bet you shit would change then. >
  
  Just take something similar to what the military has:
  Honorable
  Less than honorable
  Dishonorable discharge
  Honorable = good cop 60 years old 40 years on the force everyone loves them
  Less than honorable = late to work not doing paper work
  Dishonorable = anything that gets the media on you for treating humans like garbage bags. >
  
  Amendment to the last point; anything that would get you discharged from the military or fired in any other vocation. >
  
  Considering police policy is so much more lenient when it comes to killing civilians than military rules of engagement, cops don’t even get fired for things that soldiers would serve prison time for. >
  
  Need to keep an eye on cops for many reasons.  This, not so much >
  
  Curious what he was supposed to do instead. Let her sit in his fucking car all night?  You don't have a right to refuse to go to jail. That said, I have a feeling he was a problem child for this agency and they were simply looking for an opportunity to fire him. Because this really wasn't that big of a deal. He didn't injure her, or use excessive force. He simply slid her along the ground while she was acting like a 3 year old. >
  
  This is definitely for the best. I hope he doesn't have a wife or kids. Also, I wish there was laws in place to remove guns from fired officers. It scares me even if they get fired they can just move to the next city and still have access to weapons.
  Edit: within him being fired is for the best.
  Edit: since the person below pointed out why should they get their rights stripped... I'm talking about the fucking cops that are aggressive and get fired for it. >
  
  Him being fired is good.
  Why should fired government employees have their rights stripped? Willy nilly right-deprivation without trial is a slippery slope, especially when someone can be fired for any reason. Your position assumes the people with the power to terminate employment are in the right/good/objective people. >
  
  
  Willy nilly right-deprivation without trial is a slippery slope
  
  coughs in red flag & civil forfeiture laws
  You make a good point. >
  
  “I want you to drag me.” >
  
  Shooting her would have been so much easier. Just switch off the body cam. Say you feel threatened and justice is served…cold >
  
  Yet not charged, weird. Shocking even. /S >
  
  What would he even be charged with? The woman requested it lmao. >
  
  Once someone is in custody authorities have a duty to the safety and health of the prisoner. A reasonable person would have called for backup and not been a fucking animal, but those people are weeded out of law enforcement.
  They have spit bags, wheeled chairs, and many other ways of dealing with issues like this.
  You can find it funny but that says a lot about you that you LYAO at someone likely have a mental health issue getting abused. >
  
  Alright, that all sounds like violation of policy. But if she requested it, it's not criminal charges.
  Also that's not what I'm laughing at. I'm laughing at you thinking this should result in criminal charges. Because it's dumb. >
  
  It's maybe a violation of policy but also her civil rights. She was a secured prisoner. Shows you humility. Shows your morality that you think abuse of a prisoner isn't a criminal offense. Qualified immunity needs to be a thing of the past and that officer needs to be in jail. You think that is the first rough ride he gave?
  Would you want you or your family member to be treated like that?
  I smell bacon that needs their body cam evaluated. >
  
  It's not a violation of her civil rights if SHE REQUESTED IT. if she was my family, I'd laugh at her for being an idiot >
  
  A prisoner who requested to be abused by a police officer isn't a valid request. You can tell that cuz he got FIRED. Someone having a mental breakdown (my assumption) in custody can't waive their rights. The fact you are still engaging in this bullshit again shows me you have serious issues and need help. Please seek it. Conversation over. >
  
  Lmfao if you have this much sympathy for a criminal that broke the law and requested to be treated a certain way because she was an asshole then you're the one that needs therapy. >
  
  Yup look in the mirror. Humans have hormones that limit sympathy for people with people they struggle with. Again you are an asshole who I hope has no authority. Someone breaking the law doesn't deserve to be abused no matter what they say. >
  
  In his defense, she did ask to be dragged. Maybe he was just obliging her last request before jail. >
  
  Doesn't matter. Its against protocol. If she was refusing to walk on her own and  would not leave the officers vehicle, they should have secured her back into the vehicle, then called for assistance and the restraint chair. Secure her in said chair, then wheel her inside the police department. But he did not want to follow protocol, did what he did and got fired for it. >
  
  At least they didn’t put their knee on that person’s neck.  
  Baby steps…. >
  
  The ~~victim~~ perp was white.  That's probably why she wasn't shot and/or tased to force compliance. >
  
  Resisting arrest; failure to follow a lawful order, and trespassing. What a peach. >
  
  not sure why the cop was fired here. he tried to pick her up but she insisted several times that he drag her instead. not to mention it was a short distance on a smooth floor. >
  
  
  The agency said it revised policy in 2013 to forbid officers from dragging uncooperative suspects on the ground. Officers should instead seek assistance from jail booking staff or other law enforcement, police said.
  Damon had been with the Tampa Police Department since 2016.
  
  So he would have NEVER learned that dragging suspects is OK from official policy, which change 3 years before being hired. >
  
  what’s he supposed to do when the suspect doesn’t comply? sit there and wait for her to be ready to go in? >
  
  He could try the radio, call for help. Its in the police station parking lot surely there were other cops. >
  
  This is the Drag Time that DeSantis should be upset about. >
  
  -Criminal tells officer she won't leave vehicle 
  -Tells officer she wants to be dragged 
  -Officer drags Criminal 
  -Officer loses job
  Wtf? >
  
  What part of that is confusing to you?