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  While I agree that jury service is generally a pain, perhaps it could be viewed as a positive. If we consider judicial systems without juries, it seems like a privilege to be able to participate in the judicial system and impact the execution of the law. It is mandatory and has quite negative connotations but perhaps that's just our modern perception taking it for granted? 
  My second point would be that registering to vote is registering to be engaged in the running of our country and in the UK that would include juries.
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  Because one must be on the electoral register to vote, and because jury service is a compulsory, freedom-restricting order from the government that draws its names from the electoral register, then jury service must cease drawing its names from the electoral register in order to give people the right to vote without any consequence.
  
  You don't understand the UK electoral register. In the UK it is required to register to vote. You don't need to cast a vote but you are required to register. It is a criminal offense to refuse.
  So either way jury duty isn't an additional restriction on someone voting or not. >
  
  !delta I didn't know that you were required to be on the electoral register. If this is the case, then you do not have to consider risking being called for jury service when you make the decision to vote. >
  
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  The civic duty of Jury Duty is literally how we preserve other people's freedoms.  What suggestion do you have as an alternative for picking Jurors? >
  
  Bench trials. Some countries don't have juries, just judges.
  Though I've heard:
  You want a jury if you're guilty and you want a judge if you're innocent. >
  
  In the UK pretty much all minor crimes got the  magistrate court, a panel of 3 judges to determine guilt.
  Only for serious crimes go to crown court with a jury. >
  
  So in order to select a jury you need a representative sample of society near enough to the court that it isn't too inconvenient for them to do jury duty.
  I cannot think of any other database other than the electoral register that is near universal and contains a relatively up to date idea of the person's location.
  Drivers licenses last for about 10 years so the address can easily be wrong, passports don't store current address etc.
  Moreover jury duty is exactly that, a duty you take on as part of society, and if 10 days+ of jury duty is too much, you can get assistance or an exemption from jury duty from the courts. >
  
  So you want to free people from having to make the decision to vote and risk being selected for jury duty or not vote in order to save themselves from the possibility of jury duty? How will juries be selected under your system? >
  
  Yes, I would like people to be able to vote without the risk of being selected for jury duty. If someone doesn't want to be selected for jury duty (for any reason - conscientious objection, social anxiety, or simply because they just don't want to), then I don't believe that should rob them of the right to vote.
  I cannot think of an alternative way to select juries, although most citizens are registered to an address somewhere so there's certainly another way. National Insurance numbers are tied to individuals. Passports, too. >
  
  
  freedom-restricting order
  
  What freedoms are being restricted? 
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  compulsion of citizens
  
  Is it compulsion if you can get out of it by saying you're busy at work or have a holiday booked? You can get out of jury service so easily that it's ridiculous to paint this issue with the "oppressive government over-reach" brush or as an issue that has any impact at all on the ability of British people to vote. >
  
  Why not make going to vote a civil duty as well?  That'd also fix the issue you describe >
  
  Greetings, fellow Finch. This isn't the topic of the CMV, but regardless, I don't think compelling people to vote is a very good idea. It would breed resentment and that's not the mindset one wants voters to have. Turnout in the UK is pretty good anyway. >
  
  Your topic is about people not wanting to go vote because of the civil duty of being a juror being attached to this.  Your proposed solution is to decouple the 2.  I'm simply presenting an alternative solution to show there's no need to decouple these 2.
  That being said, I didn't say that you should make it a civil duty to vote.  I said make it a civil duty to go vote.  There's a fundamental difference.  Here in Belgium we have a civil duty to go vote, you do not have to actually vote.  You just have to show up at the polling station, check in and that's it.  Whether you vote or not is entirely up to you.  
  No resentment is present in Belgian voters stemming from this civil duty to go vote as far as I'm aware, we have turnouts of around 90%. >
  
  The UK has never really had much of a conception of voting without fear of consequence, you can actually be convicted of a crime and fined for failure to cooperate with registration officers for example. >
  
  
  then jury service must cease drawing its names from the electoral register in order to give people the right to vote without any consequence.
  
  Isn't it against the law to not register to vote?  
  In the US, you can get called to jury duty because you simply exist as someone over the age of 18. >
  
  Actually, in the US, jurors are selected from both voter registration and current ID/driver licenses, but failing to do either is not illegal. >
  
  Isn't having to register to vote a consequence to voting itself? I can't vote if I don't put myself on a government list.
  What are the alternatives? You make a different list of all the same people but call it the "jury register?" Making jury registration opt-in sort of defeats the purpose of a jury of peers.