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  It was. Multiple times. Date kept being pushed back.
  Even Trump said they will be home by Christmas. Proceeds not to and delays it.
  Things fell apart so quickly. There was nothing holding that country together beyond our US military.
  Happened in Iraq. Happened again in Afghanistan, even when we stayed longer.
context: That’s the difference between him & trump.  Trump would go to sleep with a smile on his face thinking of how he “beat” those afghans >
  
  How Trump broke the system that offers protection to Afghan allies The number of SIVs issued dropped by the hundreds. Iraqi SIVs fell from 557 in 2017 to 152 in 2019; the number of Afghan SIVs went from 4,120 in 2017 to 1,799 in 2020, as the number of applicants ballooned.
  The processing time for Afghan SIV applicants in early 2021 reached 703 days. >
  
  
  Whipple wrote that former White House press secretary [Jen Psaki ] told him that Biden “over the next couple of days ... just felt a deep, misunderstood sadness.” 
  
  This goes to show you how much personal responsibility he takes into the decisions he makes. I'm glad we have a Commander in Chief like that. >
  
  We can go on and on about the good and the bad of any administration, but this is the best move any president has made in my lifetime and I will make sure I give it appropriate recognition.
  And he knew the gravity of the situation - all the more credit
  Well done. >
  
  Trump made the deal/decision though, Biden followed through with it. >
  
  Trump had four years to leave Afghanistan and Biden had every opportunity to stay. >
  
  Obama had eight years to leave. >
  
  Yes, he's also to blame. >
  
  Joe Biden has a conscience. He feels empathy for others and he has the ability to recognize mistakes and learn from them. That is a good thing. 
  The Afghan withdrawal was set up for failure and there wasn't a hell of a lot that could be done about it, especially with the inaccurate intel he had available. Nonetheless, Biden took responsibility as the Commander in Chief. That's my President. >
  
  Oh shit! What’s that called??? Hold on, I’m thinking… oh yeah, Empathy? >
  
  I will throw thay orange turd one atom of a crumb.
  Despite Trump setting it up to be chaotic.
  I think it was a doomed pull out no matter who would of been president.
  Shit isn't always easy. >
  
  Maybe, but Trump also freed 5000 Taliban prisoners, so he actively made the situation worse. >
  
  Yeah agreed.
  If trump actually won a second term. Would he have even pulled out? 
  Would we be bitching at how he fucked it up instead of the right bitching(in bad faith.) at Joe biden.
  (Not trying to bother sides anything incase my post.sounds like it. More like shoe on other foot.) >
  
  I wonder this too. Would Trump 2 have found some reason to increase the number of American soldiers in Afghanistan? Obama had that problem... I'm sure Obama wanted to get out of Afghanistan, but instead he prolonged the misery. All with best intentions, of course. >
  
  No Trump's agreement gave him no option but to pull out.  Don't let anyone kid you that we were going to stay.  Our allies, at minimum, would have left and that would have put additional pressure on US forces.  After action reports indicated the already shaky Afghan government we setup was seen as illegitimate when Trump released those 5k Taliban fighters.  The ANA were all getting the best deals they possibly could from that point forward. >
  
  Getting out of Afghanistan was always going to be a shit show considering trump intentionally left it as a minefield for Biden. trump didn't assist any Afghanis in leaving the country and the Biden admin helped evacuate over 100K people in a short period of time. There was no way of stopping a suicide bomber in the midst of that chaos. >
  
  I tried explaining this to a coworker. He was like Biden didn't give a shit and said fuck all those people. Like if that had been Trump you would be singing a different tune. I said, "Well what about who made the deal in the first place?" The response, "Well Trump had a plan." To which I responded, "Oh like his Covid plan? Or medical care plan? Say he has it and does fuck all." These people will defend anything. >
  
  There was no good way to leave Afghanistan. Period. Not his fault. >
  
  and I would've never lost not even one second of sleep, because I don't need to sleep at all really I'm in Perfect Health and Dr. Ronnie, he used to be your Doctor now he's your Congressman in the Great State of Texas, I love Texas, and he said my body is in Incredible Shape, he told me I was very Strong, very Youthful, and probably at Genius Levels, nobody's ever Aced the Presidential Test besides me, Obama wouldn't even take it and yet I got 100 Percent plus Bonus Points, nobody's ever seen it that good not even any of the Medical Doctors and Scientists around the World they couldn't believe it, "Sir, you're smarter than Albert Einstein and a lot better looking," I'm like the Robert Redford of smart people but the Fake News won't give me Credit for it.  they have a Museum just for George Washington's Wooden Teeth but the Radical Left won't even let me put up a Statue to honor America's Favorite President, which is you're thinking me I hope, and as I've said many times Promises Made Promises Kept.  you don't get that with Democrats, you only get Sadness and Defeat because they hate helping people and My Tax Plan, which was incredible by the way the numbers were through the roof but now they wanna take it all away, Sleepy Joe and the Democrats want to make your Taxes go up and the value of your Home go down.  we may as well be living in Mexico that's how bad it's gotten. >
  
  No reason it should.   The Afghan withdrawal went smoothly and as planned.
  Biden extended the Trump surrender agreement to the Kaliban to give Afghans even more time and Taliban stuck to the agreement and didn't attack US troops.
  The Afghans who flooded the airport were people who Biden had been given an extra six months to get out. They made a poor decision.  Many had actually gone back to Afghanistan and got caught by the totally predictable collapse of the US back warlords. Trump had long ago abandoned any Afghans employed by US. >
  
  I’m voting for him again, but this was deeply disappointing and I don’t buy that he was surprised about the Afghan forces crumbling so quickly.
  We needed to exit, but why couldn’t the withdrawal have been slowed down?