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  So as all of these regulatory bodies mandate USB Type-C, how does this effect adoption of potentially superior technology?  Is USB Type-C sufficiently scalable in both power delivery and bandwidth that this is not a potential issue moving forward?  Are the regulations written in such a way which enables changing port types in the future?
context: Fair enough. Most devices should be able to charge via USB C by then anyway. >
  
  One of my coworkers asked to borrow a cord for his phone recently. Knew he had android so grabbed my extra usb-c... dude's still on micro usb! >
  
  So what? Not everyone hangs the latest tech on their necks. >
  
  Wouldn't it be great if there was a very small device you could just carry with you that would allow usbc to work like a micro usb? >
  
  Or, and i know it's out of the box but hear me out, just have a micro usb cable for your micro usb device. >
  
  "India makes USB..."
  ...followed by a whole discussion about EU regulations.
  Praise the Brussels Effect... >
  
  The reason the regulations are being introduced is precisely because the industry hasn't managed to solve this on its own, with Apple stubbornly holding out.  This regulation is really aimed at Apple in particular.
  There is no good reason why the legislation can't update when the need for a new connector arises.  It may take a little longer for such a change to occur, but that's fine.  USB-C is great, and USB still has lots of room for innovation with the existing connector before we need to replace it.  We really don't need a new charger standard every 3 years and all the electronic waste that goes with it just because some manufacturer decided they needed a new marketing gimmick. >
  
  This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 63%. (I'm a bot)
  
  
  Device manufacturers have been given a deadline of March 2025, to ensure the products they sell in India have a USB Type-C port for charging.
  Called the common charger directive, device manufacturers will have to ensure that they follow a common USB Type-C wired charging standard.
  The European Union has already given a deadline of December 28, 2024 to device manufacturers for compliance, and the mandate will be enforced a few months after that in India, starting March 2025.
  
  
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  I'm looking so forward to the next iphones and how they fuck people over with a no-port phone.
  One thing is for certain: They will get your money. >
  
  No port would still mean that the mandatory port is missing. >
  
  Not necessarily. The EU regulation states that if it charges with a plug, the plug must be type C. So Apple can totally skirt that law by removing the plug altogether, they’d be allowed to use wireless charging only. Not sure how this law changes that though, I’ll have to look into it
  Edit: I could not find an article that explained the wording or specifics, so I can’t tell if this law has the same loophole as the EU law >
  
  I do believe that the wording gives Apple a loophole they can exploit, but the real question is if they will. If Apple makes a portless phone then the EU can simply draft new legislation to specifically mandate the inclusion of a USB-C port on all phone. Sure, given slow the EU is at making bureaucratic changes it could take a couple of years for the law to be implemented, but the result will be the same. Apple will have to make a phone with a USB-C port whether the like to or not. >
  
  It’s really not as big a deal as people make it seem either. The iPad and Macs all use USB-C, it would make more sense for Apple to bring that to iPhone as well. when I had an android I could charge my Mac and phone using the same cable, but now that I have an iPhone I can’t >
  
  
  It’s really not as big a deal as people make it seem either. The iPad and Macs all use USB-C, it would make more sense for Apple to bring that to iPhone as well. when I had an android I could charge my Mac and phone using the same cable, but now that I have an iPhone I can’t
  
  As an iPhone user, and overall Apple proponent for the non-tech savvy masses, I fail to see how Apple would do what makes sense here if it doesn’t make them money. >
  
  There’s still all sorts of BS you can do with the protocol even if you adopt the connector (unless the law requires adapting the USB PD protocol as well? Not sure) >
  
  It’s about the cables and making people pay a premium for better phones.
  Functionally, however, Apple is just making more waste. Fuck them. >
  
  Better phones, shittier cables - Apple >
  
  The kind-of-misnamed "Brussels Effect" in action. Lovely to see it. >
  
  Type C is great. This is a great move that the USA should have too. >
  
  This proposal would get a US representative impeached lol >
  
  Lol this is why the USA sucks >
  
  Faaack you Apple! >
  
  Good. About time the world standardizes these cables.
  Which makes for less e-waste! >
  
  So what happens if someone comes out with something better, in all of these rules countries and europe have been making? >
  
  The EU created GSM this way, which has driven more innovation in the mobile space than any other element.
  They didn't drive the technical side of the protocol, they just told the industry to pick one standard and then they mandated it. The standard has been steadily updated from GSM to modern 5G with no issues, and you're walking around with the benefits in your pocket.
  The same will happen with the charging side of things, but no-one will be charging $80 for a bloody cable any more. >
  
  I am so annoyed that people can't grasp this. So many people see "government does a thing" and have a weird knee jerk reaction that it must be bad and start flailing about for a reason to claim it so. Our world wouldn't even come close to functioning without governments enforcing standards. >
  
  
  knee jerk reaction that it must be bad
  
  I don't think there's anyone who is objecting to this one. >
  
  But there are. Some people complain that the new regulation will "stifle innovation". >
  
  They must all be USB C by the end of 2024, so manufacturers are implementing this requirement globally.
  I suppose there are a lot of affordable Chinese phones in India. For major brands, however, this was going to happen regardless.
  Modi merely wants praise for the work the EU put in for years. >
  
  I think this was the USB Consortium's plan all along: Bring out a few generations of a connector that is humanly impossible to plug in on the first attempt, but too useful to ignore.
  Then, once the world is addicted to it: Bring out a connector that CAN be plugged in first time, and the world will lose its mind and there'll be a craze to adopt it everywhere (so the Consortium can't chance their minds again).
  Genius. >
  
  The newest standard will be out by then. >
  
  Global standards are not dead yet 
  Expecting more local standards but some global cross over. >
  
  Brussels effect >
  
  Good 👍 >
  
  Could be quicker, really. USB Type C is a thing they should have made in 1997, but somehow took 25 more years.
  5-volt data cable can't be that difficult of a science. >
  
  Type C had more challenges than expected. I can't remember anymore cuz it's been years since I looked into it, but the fact that it supports both orientations isn't as easy as it sounds. >
  
  Wish they’d do this faster. USB-C was already adopted as the standard by IEC in 2016. By 2025 it will be 9 years since standardization and likely 5 years away from being replaced by the next iteration. >
  
  You can't expect companies to shift the supply chains at a moments notice. It takes time to do this.
  
  likely 5 years away from being replaced by the next iteration.
  
  Also USB 4.x was implemented on USB C in 2019. So USB is here to stay until 2040. >
  
  2040…? No way. USB A barely lasted 15 years and because they couldn’t figure out another standard for another 5+ years the industry invented other things in the meantime like FireWire. At that point, USB was def not universal anymore. >
  
  
  "In India the directive will kick in three months after the European Union," he added.
  
  They somehow managed to drag their feet even longer than the EU. >
  
  
  
  "In India the directive will kick in three months after the European Union," he added.
  
  They somehow managed to drag their feet even longer than the EU.
  
  ... By 'dragging their feet', you mean 'first in the world to implement this policy'?
  Weird >
  
  Common external power supply 
  
  In 2009, a European Commission initiative resulted in the specification of a common external power supply (common EPS) for use with data-enabled mobile phones sold in the European Union. The external power supply is the AC electric power adapter that converts household AC electricity voltages to the much lower DC voltages needed to charge a mobile phone's internal battery. Although compliance is voluntary, a majority of the world's largest mobile phone manufacturers agreed to make their applicable mobile phones compatible with Europe's common external power supply specification (EN 62684:2010).
  
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  The thing I don't like about USB-C is how flaky the connection can be. Stuffing 24 pins into a plug smaller than a pencil eraser makes them finicky and prone to connection problems if the cable is jostled while something is plugged in. I hope the find a solution for that.
  EDIT: I use a PS5 Dualsense game controller that uses USB-C.  When the battery gets low, I plug in a USB-C cable so I can play while it's charging. Since I have the controller in my hands, and my hands do move a bit while I'm playing the controller has the habit of losing connection for a few seconds while I'm gaming causing me to suffer or die in-game. This happens several times per hour, and it's more frequent if I'm in a boss fight, I suppose I must move my hands more from the tense situation.  It doesn't matter what cable I use. I have about 5 USB cables and they all do this.  I also have a Macbook with USB-C and it has issues with charging if the cable gets moved while it's plugged in. I have a Samsung cell phone with USB-C and I never had an issue with that, but I only ever just plug in the phone and set it down without moving it much. >
  
  One of the problems I have is, there are many different usb-c standards. I’ve got a nice, fast ssd and if I just grab the wrong usb cable I get crap transfer speed. Pair that with thunderbolt using the same connector and it’s just a mess unless you only want to buy $80 cables so you never get the wrong one. >
  
  This is 100% why I’m not a huge fan of USBC. It’s a solid connector, the possibilities are endless, but it’s hard to tell if the cable or charger you’re holding in your hand is going to work with what you want at the moment. >
  
  i have never had this issue with usbc >
  
  I saw this somewhere else but someone had a better idea. Why dont all countries that use 220v switch to using the same outlets and the 110v should have a second type. This would eliminate manufacture of different types and stock could be used in different countries. Products could be more universal since they would have standardized connectors. Probably should enen standardize more on electricity, us and japan use similar plugs but voltage is slightly different >
  
  Yes, because switching nation's electricity grid is easy. >
  
  He's not asking to switch grids. Just standardize connectors. >
  
  It appears, I have misread the suggestion, thanks for point it out. >
  
  It's the details that gets us. Cheers! >
  
  USB Type-Chana Samosas!
  I do hope that USB finally does away with plugging into these connectors that all go flaky in 6 months time, and introduce magnetic contact. >
  
  Fuck Apple, that is all