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  He seems pretty committed to his supposedly fake complete disgust and hatred of women that he routinely exploits and trafficks them as property.
  Or is the idea that both the UK and Romanian police are in on the persona? >
  
  Is there solid evidence that he was actually wanted in Romania? >
  
  I suppose you believe the Romanian police detain and raid the houses of everyone living in the country? >
  
  It's really hard to believe he's not real when we've had two CMVs today in his defense (and maybe others that got posted and deleted that I never saw). These are people who wrote these defenses of their own volition. They could have done literally anything with their lives, called their mom, played some Minecraft, baked some cookies, read that book that's been on their list forever, but no, they still decided, entirely on their own, that the best use of their time right now would be to complain about how "small dick energy" is offensive and that this attack on a self-proclaimed misogynist, WHO WAS JUST ARRESTED FOR HUMAN TRAFFICKING, was uncalled for and mean.
  Like... Let's face it, some people in this world are really fucked up, and apparently a lot more people are indeed fucked up than we care to admit, if this is really the big issue on people's minds. If the reaction to him was, wtf, why would anyone listen to him, why does he have a following, lol he got burned bad and he totally deserved it and there's literally no reason to think otherwise, then sure, I might believe he's fake. But there's already so much happening in his defense and enough people willing to listen to him to make him well-known in the first place that I see no reason to think he's fake at all.
  Why did he become famous if the things he says and does are purportedly appalling and ridiculous? >
  
  Small dick energy is offensive. We never get a time to mention it. It's always dismissed. Why not bring it up when it's literally the most liked thing on Twitter. Like even if Tate is bad the comments hurt us, not him. And we've been trying to say this for quite some time. >
  
  So what is the view you are looking to change and what would it take to change it? 
  Anyone can see Tate is a misogynistic d**k who sees women as his pets, and anyone who thinks that's ok needs some intervention >
  
  I think that persona was highly formulated, seeing women as pets is going to attract attention, it’s an act and a very obvious one >
  
  He was literally just arrested.. but regardless if your persona is influential to others and encourages other people to think that way, then no irrespective if you actually believe those views or not, it doesn't change the fact you(Tate) are still a dick >
  
  He might be, but I think it’s good to remember he is scamming the men who believe in his ideals. >
  
  What about his lifestyle says he doesn't believe what he is saying? >
  
  Simply because it works too well, everything he says and does is perfect for attracting attention and solidifying fans. That Greta Thunberg tweet was so aggressively purposeful, the reaction was exactly what he would have wanted. >
  
  You are not showing any proof that it is a persona and he doesn't believe it. Everything says the opposite, and he is harming people. And again, regardless if it is a persona, it is a dangerous one and shouldn't be tolerated >
  
  It’s speculation either way. It’s just about changing my view. >
  
  I asked before what it would take to change your view? >
  
  Do you mean he's a troll, a la Jordan Peterson, Tucker Carlson, Ben Shapiro, Alex Jones, etc?
  We're aware. >
  
  OP is saying that Andrew Tate's personality isn't real - that Andrew Tate himself plays a character and doesn't really believe what he's saying.
  I'm pretty sure guys like Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro believe what they're saying. >
  
  
  OP is saying that Andrew Tate's personality isn't real - that Andrew Tate himself plays a character and doesn't really believe what he's saying.
  
  Yeah, troll. 
  
  I'm pretty sure guys like Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro believe what they're saying.
  
  Come on. They realized they can profit off the dopey. They do. >
  
  
  Come on. They realized they can profit off the dopey. They do.
  
  They're been saying the same things since before they were popular though. You can still read Ben Shapiro's early columns or watch Jordan Peterson's UofT lectures from before he (accidentally) became popular. >
  
  Does it matter though?